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• 56[00:35:29] <hyperlumic> jikistro: So you know, wheezy only has six weeks of security updates remaining.
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• 59[00:36:08] <jikistro> hyperlumic: ok thanks, can you help me in any way with limits not being applied
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• 63[00:36:34] <Phantast> Hi! Did someone use openfoam on Debian?
• 64[00:36:34] <jikistro> i modified /etc/init.d/haproxy and tried to set ulimit -n 8096 in init script to no avail
• 65[00:36:40] <jikistro> it's fuckin infuriating
• 66[00:36:58] <hyperlumic> jikistro: Sorry, I've never really had to tinker with limits. Figured I'd do you a favor and let you know that you'll need to upgrade soon, though.
• 67[00:37:03] <jikistro> i will probably have to daemonize proces
• 68[00:37:15] <jikistro> call it with nohup fuck init scripts
• 69[00:37:26] <jikistro> it's production system and i have to increase it
• 70[00:37:45] <jikistro> we have problems during day when there a peak in connections
• 71[00:39:42] <hyperlumic> jikistro: Wish I could be more helpful.
• 72[00:39:58] <blaztek> jikistro: can you set the limit via proc or something?
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• 74[00:40:12] <jikistro> no because it's freakin old system
• 75[00:40:17] <blaztek> Ahhh
• 76[00:40:21] <blaztek> Okay
• 77[00:40:49] <jikistro> it has util-linux 2.20 and suprise suprise "prlimit" was introduced in 2.21!
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• 252[02:47:26] <nuuuciano> hi! is someone using debian jessie? can you open this pdf using atril or okular and see if you see it ok, or as a pdf full of blank pages? replaced-url
• 253[02:47:26] <nuuuciano> I see only white pages :-/
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• 264[02:56:22] <rant> nuuuciano: this machine is running jessie, but its a remote system you'd have to give me a minute to finagle running atril over xpra
• 265[02:57:24] <nuuuciano> rant, sure! no hurries
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• 267[02:59:56] <rant> nuuuciano: dont worry this will be slow.. heh.. using a distant AP with a mesh collander to get online.. heh
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• 269[03:00:46] <rant> nuuuciano: I just downloaded that url with wget and its saying its text/html
• 270[03:01:16] <nuuuciano> rant, it is located in google drive, I do not think wget works directly on it...
• 271[03:01:46] <rant> wouldnt seem so.. that makes shit even more complicated if I gotta d/l locally then scp
• 272[03:01:49] <rant> heh
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• 275[03:03:04] <nuuuciano> I can try upload it to any other public sharing service, do not know wich one works ok with wget
• 276[03:03:13] <rant> i'll get it..
• 277[03:03:33] <rant> it views in chromium on stretch though
• 278[03:04:50] <blaztek> And Firefox
• 279[03:04:57] <nuuuciano> yep, on browsers I see it ok, but I have issues with okular/atril, in certain pdfs only (like that), do not know if it is something that it is happening to me only...
• 280[03:05:32] <rant> nuuuciano: fwiw this url is the actual file "replaced-url
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• 282[03:06:28] <nuuuciano> rant, nice finding! will save that latest url string, maybe it is useful some day...
• 283[03:06:50] <rant> well that url pops up temporarily in the address bar when you hit download
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• 287[03:08:09] <rant> nuuuciano: well I started atril on this jessie system over xpra and I downloaded from that url with wget -O temp.pdf and opened temp.pdf and it is viewable
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• 290[03:08:54] <nuuuciano> rant, oh thanks! so it is something on my system...
• 291[03:09:10] <Resilience> I cannout automount usb memories whit thunar (xfce) it was working, an update+dist-upgrade and it stopped working, where can I start to look for what's going on?
• 292[03:09:40] <rant> nuuuciano: is it opening the file, but its just blank? i.e. not bitching about the file format?
• 293[03:10:06] <nuuuciano> rant, no errors, nothing... just full of blank pages...
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• 295[03:10:55] <blaztek> It’s a 1.5 PDF file
• 296[03:10:56] <rant> nuuuciano: my first two thoughts are to checksum the file and I'll compare my checksum, and also run atril from a terminal so you can see any output
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• 298[03:11:42] <Resilience> the error message is: Failed to mount "unit". Not authorized to perform operation.
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• 303[03:15:52] <rant> Resilience: well I would imagine you are probably using gvfsd for automounting, check and see if thats running so we know for sure what we're dealing with
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• 309[03:16:38] <Resilience> rant it is
• 310[03:17:12] <rant> Resilience: well I would imagine it probably logs ... my first guess would be daemon.log but I can check and see
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• 318[03:27:09] <Resilience> rant, daemon.log says nothing about the unit
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• 325[03:31:28] <rant> Resilience: well I just plugged in a thumbdrive and did grep gvfsd /var/log/daemon.log and didnt see anything about it eier so
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• 327[03:32:23] <Resilience> rant yes, the problem is twfold, I don't know where to start see, becuase nobody in debina explains how the system is built/configured
• 328[03:33:13] <rant> Resilience: yeah well I'm still tryin to figure some things out myself as I been using it for over a decade but a lot changed recently :P
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• 330[03:33:48] <rant> Resilience: I'm not sure what it means about "unit" never heard that before unless the device is called/labelled "unit"
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• 335[03:34:58] <Resilience> rant the devide is called so :)
• 336[03:35:33] <rant> Resilience: oh, well then thats just vague.. there wasnt like more info in light gray below that error?
• 337[03:36:09] <rant> typically I get those kinda errors mounting encrypted thumbdrives if I type wrong password or such and the main error is in bold black then there is more below in a smaller more subtle font
• 338[03:36:36] <Resilience> ran, no, it wasn't (it seems as cryptic as windoes messages were, it is logic, becuase all of this infrastrcuture was built by microsoft-way-of-doing fans)
• 339[03:36:55] <Resilience> rant, volume is not encrypted, never was
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• 344[03:43:35] <rant> Resilience: well the authentication for gvfsd is handled by polkit.. what branch are you using?
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• 346[03:44:38] <rant> Resilience: you did say you were dist-upgrading.. and something in polkit could've gotten screwed up
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• 348[03:46:16] <Resilience> rant, usb hasn't been mounted for months (>6) so I did a lot of updates && dist-upgrades, but the configuration of xfce and thunar was not touched from the state it was working, and I have test that the configurain of r automounting external volumes is right
• 349[03:46:23] <Resilience> it is verything right, but it doe snot work
• 350[03:46:37] <Resilience> and it NOT wiitten in anywhere how it is confiured the system so...
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• 354[03:47:21] <rant> Resilience: well I'd imagine the issue is in polkit since its talking about permissions to do the mount.. so I need to know what debian version you're using so I can figure out what kinda config you may have for that
• 355[03:47:49] <rant> otherwise I'd just have to walk you through some kinda generic polkit manual configuration to allow mounts
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• 360[03:50:46] <rant> Resilience: replaced-url
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• 364[03:53:24] <Resilience> rant, I suppose it doe snot applied to debian, becase directories in that page did not exist in debian... I suppose someone should wirte how debian is done this days
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• 367[03:54:48] <rant> Resilience: afaik most the global polkit rules files are non-existant in debian and have to make the dirs and files
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• 369[03:55:23] <rant> I've done a bit of polkit to allow passwordless systems but I dont really recall how it all works off the top of my head
• 370[03:57:05] <Resilience> rant what does it mean "have to make the dirs and files"?
• 371[03:57:08] <rant> no I think you just use /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/ rather than the rules.d
• 372[03:58:03] <rant> I just have a small file in there granting perms to the sudo group
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• 381[04:04:09] <KetHendrix> is there a debian installer that has the nonfree wl (broadcom-sta) driver available
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• 385[04:05:26] <awal1> dpkg: firmware installer
• 386[04:05:26] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
• 387[04:05:27] <Resilience> rant,where can I read about how debina imeplemts all this shit about polkit consolekit and shitkit?
• 388[04:05:55] <awal1> dpkg: unofficial image
• 389[04:05:55] <dpkg> awal1: I wish you would RTFM.
• 390[04:06:16] <awal1> well, i forgot the factoid for non free iso
• 391[04:06:30] <KetHendrix> im using the non-free iso but it doesn't appear to be in the list
• 392[04:06:59] <awal1> that is the only non free image
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• 396[04:09:31] <dvs> I think that broadcom is the only firmware that is not included on the ISO
• 397[04:09:48] <KetHendrix> great
• 398[04:10:11] <KetHendrix> laptop doesn't have a ethernet port either, time to do some fiddling
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• 406[04:13:14] <dvs> or use a full ISO to do the install.
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• 602[07:16:14] <nh> is there a way to start the installer from within the live environment
• 603[07:17:04] <rpifan> yes
• 604[07:17:09] <rpifan> it should be there
• 605[07:17:16] <rpifan> tho ive had the xperience where it wont show up some times
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• 607[07:17:45] <nh> im on the gnome live cd had to do some jiggery pokery to get stupid broadcom wl module installed via a usb stick
• 608[07:18:07] <rpifan> yea i feel u
• 609[07:18:12] <rpifan> can u just search fori nstall
• 610[07:18:51] <nh> yeah ive done that, i've also looked around for an installer binary of some description
• 611[07:19:06] <nh> is the installer in the repos somewhere? i could just install it
• 612[07:19:43] <rpifan> im not sure actually
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• 614[07:21:14] <nh> replaced-url
• 615[07:21:22] <nh> this binary also doesn't seem to exist
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• 618[07:22:06] <rpifan> yes
• 619[07:22:10] <rpifan> ive had that issue before
• 620[07:22:16] <rpifan> somtimes the live cd doesnt have the installer
• 621[07:24:04] <nh> looks like it is in the repos
• 622[07:24:10] <nh> will report back
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• 626[07:26:22] <AlwaysHigh> how do i login with a ssh key in debian
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• 628[07:26:28] <AlwaysHigh> ssh user@ip ...?
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• 635[07:28:14] <AlwaysHigh> scratch that
• 636[07:28:24] <AlwaysHigh> i want to create a ssh_tunnel and ur proxychains
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• 638[07:28:29] <AlwaysHigh> but im hella confused
• 639[07:28:35] <AlwaysHigh> replaced-url
• 640[07:29:25] <nh> debian-install is just documentation it seems
• 641[07:29:36] <nh> debian-installer-launcher doesn't work
• 642[07:30:07] <nh> ill just load the graphical installer hopefully i can pop a shell and load the modules
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• 644[07:30:52] <nh> im installing it over gentoo, which ironically was easier to install
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• 646[07:31:30] <bahamat> Hey all, I have a question regarding the behavior of dpkg-reconfigure between debian-8 and debian-9 with regard to openssh-server
• 647[07:31:56] <bahamat> On deb-8 if the ssh host keys were missing, dpkg-reconfigure would regenerate them. On debian-9 this does not seem to happen.
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• 815[08:40:47] <xgpt> hey everyone
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• 818[08:41:32] <xgpt> I need help! I have a usb device (xbox 360 controller) that i need a driver to pick up, problem, it's off-brand and the identifiers aren't picking it up as what it is, so the xpad driver isn't kicking in and giving it a /dev/input/js0 /js1 designation
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• 820[08:41:59] <xgpt> how do I manually say "any usb device with this identifier is meant to be used with THIS driver, linux, please start THIS DRIVER to run THIS USB DEVICE"
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• 822[08:42:59] <annadane> sounds like a udev rule thing but i don't know the details, sadly
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• 824[08:43:43] <cef> annadane: think you're right
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• 826[08:44:45] <xgpt> slidinghorn: how do you manually cef annadane yeah, that's my problem, i just don't know how to /udev
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• 828[08:45:20] <annadane> don't make me read the man page, i'm tired :P
• 829[08:45:29] <annadane> (though yeah it's good to know how to do this)
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• 833[08:47:05] <xgpt> lol
• 834[08:47:38] <cef> xgpt: Not sure, but are you using xpad or xboxdrv?
• 835[08:47:48] <cef> ahh xpad
• 836[08:47:49] <annadane> from looking at it for all of 5 seconds it seems relatively straightforward though i don't know if the driver has a name in linux/debian
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• 838[08:47:53] <cef> sorry missed that
• 839[08:47:55] <xgpt> xpad
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• 841[08:48:14] <xgpt> yeah, how do I say "xpad, please recognize this"
• 842[08:48:20] <xgpt> in ubuntu it just works
• 843[08:48:26] <xgpt> but in this debian I've got running it doesn't
• 844[08:48:33] <xgpt> not even sure how to figure it out
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• 847[08:50:01] <cef> xgpt: how'd you install the xpad driver? straight out of the kernel, pkgs, compile/dkms?
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• 849[08:50:46] <xgpt> cef: it was preinstalled in this retropie build
• 850[08:50:53] <xgpt> I'm running on an orange pi pc
• 851[08:50:59] <xgpt> weird allwinner h3 processor
• 852[08:51:04] <xgpt> stuck on an older kernel
• 853[08:51:12] <xgpt> but one of my xbox controllers is working just fine
• 854[08:51:12] <cef> ahh ok.. yup.. the default one in the kernel
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• 856[08:51:34] <xgpt> guess so?
• 857[08:51:37] <xgpt> older kernel
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• 861[08:52:47] <xgpt> is there a way to copy/paste a udev rule?
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• 865[08:53:58] <annadane> as in, you found the rule on the internet (beware, tutorials are wrong/outdated)? or you're looking for a way to do it "algorithmically"
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• 869[08:54:53] <cef> so the module is definitely just xpad (xpad.ko)
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• 871[08:55:01] <annadane> \o/
• 872[08:55:02] <xgpt> annadane: no no, my *buntu box is running it just fine
• 873[08:55:09] <annadane> (how'd you find that out...?)
• 874[08:55:10] <xgpt> it mounts the controller and it's working just peachy
• 875[08:55:24] <xgpt> but how do I find out WHY *buntu is mounting it, and this older debian isn't?
• 876[08:55:27] <cef> annadane: looked in the kernel module directory. ;)
• 877[08:55:35] <annadane> probably because it's not free software
• 878[08:55:51] <cef> nah, xpad is part of the kernel
• 879[08:56:01] <annadane> oh, ok
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• 887[08:57:18] <cef> xgpt: look in /etc/udev/ or /etc/udev/rules.d/ under ubuntu. you might find files that specifically mention xpad
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• 892[08:58:31] <cef> annoyance of finding this stuff is that xpad is also the name of a sticky note application for X windows. ;P
• 893[08:59:12] <cef> xgpt: you could just try (as root) `modprobe xpad`
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• 895[08:59:38] <xgpt> cef: :
• 896[08:59:41] <xgpt> [12639.144093] usb 6-2: new full-speed USB device number 11 using uhci_hcd
• 897[08:59:43] <xgpt> [12639.343124] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=24c6, idProduct=530a
• 898[08:59:46] <xgpt> [12639.343133] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
• 899[08:59:48] <xgpt> [12639.343140] usb 6-2: Product: Xbox 360 Pro Ex
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• 903[09:00:36] <xgpt> sorry about that
• 904[09:00:40] <cef> xgpt: if that works, as root edit /etc/modules and put 'xpad' on the last line, then save.
• 905[09:00:42] <xgpt> but does that help?
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• 907[09:00:53] <cef> that seems like it's working. it just wasn't loaded by default
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• 909[09:01:01] <xgpt> cef: ??
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• 911[09:01:12] <cef> putting it in /etc/modules will load it on boot.
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• 913[09:01:17] <xgpt> sorry, I got kicked from the channel for a second because I forgot about pasting into an IRC channel :P
• 914[09:01:38] <cef> xgpt: since it loaded the module and seemed to find it... give it a try?
• 915[09:01:42] <annadane> pff of course it's as simple as modprobe xpad
• 916[09:01:56] <xgpt> annadane: ?
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• 918[09:01:58] <annadane> everything is easy... in hindsight
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• 920[09:02:00] <xgpt> could you write a sample command?
• 921[09:02:02] <xgpt> I'm sory
• 922[09:02:08] <xgpt> the problem isn't that xpad isn't working
• 923[09:02:18] <xgpt> it's that xpad doesn't recognize the other xbox controller
• 924[09:02:24] <xgpt> xpad DOES recognize a more common one
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• 926[09:02:32] <cef> ahh.. so you have 2?
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• 931[09:02:46] <annadane> i would help but this is above my knowledge, cef is much smarter than i am
• 932[09:02:59] <cef> annadane: hahahahaha.. no.
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• 934[09:04:30] <cef> xgpt: do you know the vendor and product id's of the not-working device?
• 935[09:04:51] <xgpt> umm
• 936[09:04:52] <xgpt> yeah
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• 939[09:04:57] <xgpt> Bus 006 Device 009: ID 24c6:530a
• 940[09:05:01] <xgpt> cef: Bus 006 Device 009: ID 24c6:530a
• 941[09:05:09] <cef> xgpt: and what kernel are you using? `uname -a`
• 942[09:05:13] <xgpt> oh lord
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• 944[09:05:40] <xgpt> I don't know off the top of my head because I'm reflashing the SD card...
• 945[09:06:18] <cef> xgpt: that's the "Xbox 360 Pro EX Controller"
• 946[09:06:30] <cef> xgpt: sure that's the one that doesn't work?
• 947[09:06:33] <xgpt> cef: yeah
• 948[09:06:35] <nix64bit> I am getting multiple menu links to my android phone on Thunar 1.6.11 since my last upgrade, is there a simple way to fix this?
• 949[09:06:36] <xgpt> it works on ubuntu
• 950[09:06:49] <xgpt> but it doesn't work on RetrOrangePi 4.1
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• 953[09:07:05] <xgpt> nix64bit: how customized is your thunar?
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• 956[09:07:45] <xgpt> nix64bit: apt-get purge thunar && apt-get install thunar && rm ~/.thunar (or wherever the thunar configs are stored) is what I usually do
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• 960[09:08:37] <xgpt> cef: it's a pretty old kernel...it's stuck back in the dark ages because of a lack of mainline kernel support. so it's this backdoored chinese GPL violating POS kernel but it's the only thing that will get this hardware to run
• 961[09:08:44] <xgpt> allwinner FTW
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• 975[09:12:56] <cef> xgpt: I think the issue might be that either you've got an older version of the xpad driver, or retropie is not talking to the driver at all
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• 977[09:13:16] <xgpt> cef: the xpad driver is running this other xpad controller just fine
• 978[09:13:27] <xgpt> i just don't know how to check the version, check the installation, or upgrade it
• 979[09:13:36] <cef> xgpt: you can install xpad from src (using dkms) if need be.
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• 982[09:13:57] <jelly> what's retropie? Which debian release is this?
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• 984[09:13:57] <cef> xgpt: that 'modprobe xpad' you did.. was that on the Pi?
• 985[09:15:22] <xgpt> nope
• 986[09:15:30] <xgpt> thatthing I copied and pasted was in *buntu
• 987[09:15:40] <cef> xgpt: well that's a bit useless. :P
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• 989[09:15:58] <xgpt> cef: ...oh...I thought it would be good info
• 990[09:16:04] <xgpt> to show that it's 1) compatible with xpad
• 991[09:16:17] <xgpt> and 2) might show you an ID or something you might use to help me haha
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• 993[09:16:52] <cef> xgpt: sure, but you didn't say that.. you just pasted it after I told you to do `modprobe xpad` on the pi. :P
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• 998[09:17:41] <nix64bit> xgpt: thanks i will give it a shot
• 999[09:17:41] <xgpt> oh shooot
• 1000[09:17:47] <IncognitoMan> is there a generic prebuilt debian rootfs for arm?
• 1001[09:17:50] <xgpt> I'm sorry cef
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• 1003[09:17:53] <xgpt> nix64bit: hope that helps
• 1004[09:18:00] <IncognitoMan> similar to archs prebuilt generic arm rootfs?
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• 1006[09:18:44] <rendar> debian f. up with my machine, and installed something called "aQuantia AQtion PXE-20 Copyright 1997-2000 Intel." 1997-2000?! what's this shit? and it blocks my machine for at least 30 seconds before starting grub!
• 1007[09:18:51] <xgpt> cef: let me do that now, my card just finished flashing, booting it up again
• 1008[09:18:58] <nix64bit> xgpt: i was hoping to fix it without reinstalling
• 1009[09:19:02] <cef> xgpt: you could try building it from source. if `modprobe xpad` doesn't help, try using the instructions at replaced-url
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• 1011[09:19:23] <xgpt> thanks cef
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• 1013[09:19:34] <xgpt> yeah, building it from source would be ideal
• 1014[09:19:35] <xgpt> but idk
• 1015[09:20:07] <rendar> any help?
• 1016[09:20:21] <cef> xgpt: just remember to unplug all your controllers first, then `rmmod xpad` before trying to build from source.
• 1017[09:20:37] <annadane> rendar, is this debian stretch? and was this from an upgrade you did yourself?
• 1018[09:20:43] <annadane> you can typically check your /var/log/apt/history.log
• 1019[09:20:56] <xgpt> cef: excellent advice
• 1020[09:20:59] <cef> xgpt: given the kernel is so old, it's probably got an old version of xpad that didn't support that device.. and looks like there is no way to override it for the module.
• 1021[09:20:59] <rendar> annadane: it is debian stretch and it's the classic dvd installer
• 1022[09:21:18] <rendar> annadane: that doesn't help
• 1023[09:21:29] <IncognitoMan> change boot order?
• 1024[09:21:30] <rendar> it doesn't seem something installed with apt
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• 1026[09:21:38] <rendar> it's something that starts just after POST
• 1027[09:21:49] <cef> rendar: that's not debian.. that's the PXE bootrom for booting over the network.
• 1028[09:21:55] <IncognitoMan> since its apparently first loading pxeboot before reading the drive
• 1029[09:22:04] <cef> rendar: change your boot order in your bios.
• 1030[09:22:04] <rendar> cef: i don't want that, and debian installaed that!
• 1031[09:22:13] <IncognitoMan> no
• 1032[09:22:16] <IncognitoMan> debian didnt install that
• 1033[09:22:38] <rendar> before installing debian, i set the bios to boot OR from m.2 stick OR from blue ray cd drive
• 1034[09:22:47] <rendar> there were only those 2 options set in the bios, nothing more
• 1035[09:22:47] <IncognitoMan> thats literally your boot order having netboot/pxeboot set above whatever you have grub on
• 1036[09:22:57] <rendar> how come that after installing debian, suddenly this appear?
• 1037[09:23:13] <IncognitoMan> well....rest assured
• 1038[09:23:16] <IncognitoMan> its not debian
• 1039[09:23:17] <IncognitoMan> :P
• 1040[09:23:24] <cef> rendar: as IncognitoMan said.. debian didn't install it.. it may have got enabled when you changed your bios boot order to probe the network. You'll find a bios option to disable network boot (or pxeboot)
• 1041[09:23:35] <IncognitoMan> ^
• 1042[09:23:36] <rendar> ok!
• 1043[09:23:43] <rendar> but debian changed that! not me!
• 1044[09:23:47] <rendar> i didn't enter the bios
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• 1048[09:24:14] <cef> look for "LAN BOOT" "PXE Boot" or "Network boot" and disable them (or move them last in the boot order).
• 1049[09:24:23] <rendar> cef: yes i got how to disable it
• 1050[09:24:41] <rendar> the point is that i never enabled it, but debian did..i didn't even enter the bios..
• 1051[09:25:44] <cef> rendar: a lot of motherboards/laptops ship with network boot enabled at 'some' order int he bios.. if it's a new machine, it'll probably be after trying some sort of EFI boot, falling back to network boot then normal Legacy bootloader.
• 1052[09:25:56] <rendar> another thing, i'm on runlevel 5, then i entered /etc/rc5.d and removed lightdm script, why lightdm continues to start at the boot?
• 1053[09:25:57] <IncognitoMan> eyup
• 1054[09:26:44] <rendar> do i have to remove some other thing?
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• 1057[09:28:27] <cef> rendar: not sure.. I've not used lightdm in ages. sorry.
• 1058[09:29:13] <rendar> hmm ok
• 1059[09:29:28] <rendar> btw installing debian it overwrote the MBR with grub, and i can't see windows anymore
• 1060[09:29:41] <rendar> i can add it manually by editing /boot/grub.cfg?
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• 1070[09:32:58] <cef> rendar: which version of Windows?
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• 1074[09:34:43] <rendar> cef: 10 pro
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• 1077[09:36:21] <cef> Ok, so probably EFI...
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• 1079[09:37:30] <rendar> it's uefi yes
• 1080[09:37:53] <rendar> someone told me to add a line in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
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• 1083[09:39:29] <xgpt> well, I think I'll just as well return this controller and get another one of the one's I know will work :P
• 1084[09:39:34] <xgpt> thanks for trying cef
• 1085[09:39:50] <cef> rendar: You might want to try the stuff listed at replaced-url
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• 1088[09:41:33] <cef> rendar: you'll need to run the bits it reocmmends to get the exact details to put in that file.
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• 1090[09:42:10] <rendar> ok
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• 1092[09:44:12] <rendar> after editing grub config file, how i can make effective those changes?
• 1093[09:44:15] <rendar> grub-mkconfig?
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• 1110[09:51:10] <sheldor_the_conq> Hi, I'd like to set fr keyboard in preseed file like this replaced-url
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• 1121[09:57:36] <rendar> it seems i don't have ifconfig or route, how come?! which packages i have to install in order to get those? i don't have network here
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• 1129[10:02:59] <yctn_> ffmpeg isnt in the jessie repo anymore?
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• 1131[10:03:25] <bezaban> rendar: those have been deprecated for a while (10y?) the 'ip' command replaces them. THere *is* a package with them, let me check
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• 1135[10:05:07] <vlt> yctn_: In Jessie it might be "avconv".
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• 1137[10:06:00] <bezaban> rendar: net-tools and replaced-url
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• 1139[10:06:32] <rendar> ok
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• 1143[10:08:01] <yctn_> vlt so... whats the plan from debian are they going to ditch ffmpeg for libav?
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• 1178[10:19:50] <vlt> yctn_: No.
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• 1224[10:45:22] <rendar> apt-get autoremove just removed 1Gb of packages, and also networking :(
• 1225[10:45:23] <rendar> why?
• 1226[10:45:54] <apollo13> because you apparently removed a metapackage
• 1227[10:46:02] <babilen> Because those packages weren't manually installed
• 1228[10:46:02] <rendar> what?
• 1229[10:46:06] <apollo13> and the rest was just installed as dependency
• 1230[10:46:14] <rendar> i didn't removed anything
• 1231[10:46:18] <rendar> just lightdm
• 1232[10:46:30] <rendar> but how the fuck a system can remove networking if i remove lightdm?!?
• 1233[10:46:38] <babilen> "didn't remove anything" -- "just lightdm"
• 1234[10:46:40] <babilen> :)
• 1235[10:46:56] <apollo13> because removing lightdm removed more than you wanted
• 1236[10:47:01] <apollo13> ie a desktop metapackage
• 1237[10:47:09] <apollo13> and therefor the rest becomes pretty much unneeded
• 1238[10:47:19] <rendar> but i didn't tell it to remove the metapackage
• 1239[10:47:21] <rendar> just lightdm!!
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• 1241[10:47:29] <rendar> how the fuck this works?
• 1242[10:47:30] <babilen> So, the way this worked is: You installed XFCE/??? via metapackage that pulled in a couple of other things as dependencies. You then removed one of those dependencies, which also removed the metapackage (as its dependencies were no longer satisfied)
• 1243[10:47:33] <apollo13> well but the metapackage might require one login manager
• 1244[10:47:48] <babilen> That left the rest as "automatically installed" packages without a dependency
• 1245[10:47:50] <rendar> ok, i can get xfce...but NETWORKING?!!?
• 1246[10:47:51] <apollo13> rendar: how the fuck this works? it works because a stupid user didn't read the apt output when telling it to remove lightdm
• 1247[10:47:57] <babilen> You then decided to remove those packages
• 1248[10:47:59] <rendar> how i am supposed to reinstall stuff without networking now?
• 1249[10:48:05] <apollo13> usb disk :)
• 1250[10:48:22] <rendar> apollo13: one can't read a 500 pages thing, just to understand how to uninstall something
• 1251[10:48:29] <apollo13> one can and one should
• 1252[10:48:30] <babilen> You might want to check apt's output in the future and not remove things you like to keep
• 1253[10:48:34] <apollo13> and it is not 500 pages
• 1254[10:48:56] <rendar> babilen: i didn't think apt WAS SO FUCKING STUPID TO REMOVE NETWORKING
• 1255[10:49:06] <babilen> apt does what you tell it to do
• 1256[10:49:13] <rendar> yes, yes
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• 1258[10:49:16] <apollo13> I DIDN'T THINK YOU ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO HIT OKAY WHEN IT ASKS :D
• 1259[10:49:29] <apollo13> seriously though, watch your language and no need to write in caps
• 1260[10:49:33] <apollo13> we are all adults here
• 1261[10:49:36] <babilen> Can we please stay factual and stop the blame game?
• 1262[10:49:38] <PerfDave> rendar: You seem to be very angry. Take a deep breath and stop shouting. You have made a mistake. apt told you what it was going to do, and you didn't read that before confirming that it was OK. If you want help to fix this, being angry will not help you and will not encourage others to help you.
• 1263[10:49:41] <babilen> I mean .. these things happen
• 1264[10:49:44] <rendar> someone on linux told me: "rendar: welcome to debian"
• 1265[10:49:46] <dracc> apollo13, lol at your yell. :D
• 1266[10:49:52] <dracc> rendar; No output from ifconfig?
• 1267[10:49:57] <rendar> PerfDave: i didn;t made any mistake
• 1268[10:50:01] <babilen> This is an *old* problem that, frankly, is a major mistake in the way the Debian installer configures the system
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• 1270[10:50:21] <rendar> ok
• 1271[10:50:26] <apollo13> *shrug* I am running debian since 10 years or so and never ran into such a problem
• 1272[10:50:29] <rendar> finally someone that think this is wrong
• 1273[10:50:34] <apollo13> there are imo way more immediate glaring problems
• 1274[10:50:47] <dracc> apollo13, Same here. But 12. :D
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• 1276[10:50:55] <babilen> See .. for example .. an old mail of mine: replaced-url
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• 1280[10:51:29] <rendar> now i have debian cdrom, someone can help me to reinstall at least networking so i can reinstall stuff later?
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• 1282[10:51:32] <dracc> rendar, if you, as root, run "ifconfig -a", what's your output? Or, maybe even better, "ip a"?
• 1283[10:51:37] <babilen> apollo13: I do agree with you that people should generally check what *they* are about to do, but unfortunately many people never read what apt says when it asks you and just blindly hit enter
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• 1285[10:51:52] <rendar> ifconfig command not found
• 1286[10:52:01] <rendar> it removed everything for Christ sake
• 1287[10:52:01] <apollo13> babilen: which is imo the main problem and probably an indication that one should maybe use another system
• 1288[10:52:04] <babilen> You can either design a system that copes gracefully with a common workflow (install debian, adjust package selection to your needs later) or not
• 1289[10:52:26] <dracc> rendar, and that was ran as root? Because normal user don't have permission to run ifconfig.
• 1290[10:52:35] <rendar> yes as root
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• 1292[10:52:38] <babilen> rendar: ifconfig isn't necessarily installed these days as it has been obsoleted long time ago. Do you still have "ip" or "ifup" ?
• 1293[10:52:40] <apollo13> babilen: that said, I am pretty sure a normal user generally does not even use a terminal, and the gnome-software stuff probably doesn't allow for that much
• 1294[10:52:42] <dracc> and "ip a"?
• 1295[10:52:54] <rendar> babilen: there is ip yes
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• 1297[10:53:10] <apollo13> well sounds like networking is there after all ;)
• 1298[10:53:11] <rendar> ip a tellms that enp5s0 is up
• 1299[10:53:18] <babilen> rendar: Okay, are you connecting via ethernet or wireless?
• 1300[10:53:27] <rendar> it seems it can ping the router
• 1301[10:53:28] <dracc> Then you've got network. Magic?
• 1302[10:53:31] <rendar> eth
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• 1304[10:53:46] <rendar> dracc: i have tested some stuff, it's not magic :)
• 1305[10:54:13] <dracc> rendar, well "it removed everything for Christ sake" about a minute ago, yet it's still there? :o
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• 1307[10:54:28] <rendar> it seems apt-get autoremove also removed MY OWN copy of /etc/resolv.conf which i created just before. this is absurd.
• 1308[10:55:08] <apollo13> haha
• 1309[10:55:15] <apollo13> I bet you didn't edit /etc/resolv.conf
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• 1311[10:55:20] <rendar> what?
• 1312[10:55:23] <apollo13> it is a symlink ;)
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• 1315[10:55:39] <rendar> apollo13: there wasn't any file in /etc/resolv.conf
• 1316[10:55:43] <rendar> not a file, not a symlink
• 1317[10:55:43] <apollo13> you probably edited /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf and the removal removed resolvconf which resulted in an old file restired
• 1318[10:55:50] <rendar> i have created one 20 min. ago
• 1319[10:56:05] <rendar> and autoremoved replaced that path with an empty file
• 1320[10:56:18] <rendar> there wasn't a symlink
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• 1324[10:56:31] <dracc> rendar, So problem is you've no setup for DNS, not "ALL NETWORKING IS GONE"?
• 1325[10:56:50] <dracc> As in "my resolv.conf was reset"?
• 1326[10:56:53] <babilen> rendar: So, are you online now, how do you connect and what is the current exact, technical situation
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• 1329[10:57:20] <rendar> dracc: networking was gone, AND resolv.conf was reset
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• 1331[10:57:34] <rendar> babilen: i have 2 machines
• 1332[10:57:37] <babilen> There are good technical reasons for things to happen and I really don't want to spend any time on blaming users or systems. If there is a bug it should be reported, if users make mistakes we can address them and maybe report usability bugs
• 1333[10:57:40] <rendar> babilen: here i'm on Windows
• 1334[10:57:59] <babilen> Well, I'm obviously referring to the situation on Debian
• 1335[10:58:17] <rendar> babilen: i don't want to blame systems either, also because i use debian since decades and i think is a great system
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• 1339[10:58:19] <babilen> Once you're online you can just install whatever you desire. So, the first thing to do is to get you online again.
• 1340[10:58:37] <dracc> Is Windows the new Arch? :D
• 1341[10:58:47] <rendar> but when i saw something anti-logic, anti-user, anti-human like removing a simple thing like lightdm which removes 1Gb of stuff, i get angry
• 1342[10:58:55] <rendar> computers should short human labor, not grow it!
• 1343[10:59:00] <babilen> rendar: Please, take a look at replaced-url
• 1344[10:59:11] <rendar> babilen: ok
• 1345[10:59:25] <babilen> But there is little we can do by reiterating that point right now
• 1346[10:59:31] <babilen> We can either fix your problem or not
• 1347[10:59:36] <rendar> babilen: finally i found someone that thinks this is frustrating too, instead of people telling me i'm stupid
• 1348[10:59:45] <rendar> babilen: i know
• 1349[11:00:30] <babilen> There is a certain "Should not have said 'yes, I'm happy for you to remove all those packages'" aspect to it, but that's a poor excuse for something that users genuinely want to do frequently. Many run into this problem, so it obviously is an issue
• 1350[11:01:12] <babilen> The underlying issue are these megalomaniac "meta" packages that install everything and the kitchen sink
• 1351[11:01:20] <babilen> But read that thread, I wrote all of that in there too
• 1352[11:02:12] <rendar> yes
• 1353[11:02:17] <jelly> meta packages by itself are not a problem. The fact that stuff installed by d-i is marked auto is.
• 1354[11:02:35] <jelly> themselves*
• 1355[11:03:01] <rendar> isn't more logic giving those meta packages a ref count, and when ref_count==0 then is the time to put them in autoremove?
• 1356[11:03:19] <rendar> so, even if i remove lightdm, ref_count will be > 0, so the entire meta package won't be deleted..
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• 1359[11:04:04] <babilen> jelly: Well, if all d-i does is pull in the metapackage and the rest is therefore marked as automatically installed, it is a problem in the way those metapackages are set up and the way d-i pulls in Gnome/XFCE/...
• 1360[11:04:17] <babilen> replaced-url
• 1361[11:04:22] <babilen> 2011!
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• 1365[11:07:13] <babilen> rendar: The problem is that the ref_count *is* 0 if you remove the metapackage
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• 1369[11:07:56] <dracc> So, solution would be finer granularity of meta packages?
• 1370[11:08:15] <babilen> dpkg: install gnome
• 1371[11:08:16] <dpkg> To install GNOME: «apt-get install …» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. replaced-url
• 1372[11:08:18] <dracc> Or users could learn to read before trying advanced operations. Whichever is easier.
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• 1374[11:09:35] <babilen> It's a common usecase that users setup their system in the "default configuration" to only later realise that they don't want to have everything and the kitchen sink installed. The way it is handled it is very hard to go from "Installed Gnome/XFCE/... via d-i" to "I just remove pkgA and pkgB because I now know that I don't want them"
• 1375[11:09:37] <rendar> babilen: yes, but removing lightdm is not remvoing the metapackage
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• 1378[11:10:26] <babilen> There are various other metapackages (e.g. d-i could mark gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome as manually installed to prevent situations like this) that are suitable for "installing gnome" and a more fine-grained approach would help
• 1379[11:10:58] <babilen> rendar: lightdm is a dependency of the metapackage, once you remove it the dependency can't be satisfied anymore, which triggers the removal of the metapackage
• 1380[11:11:18] <babilen> The next autoremove finds all other dependencies of that metapackage and .. well .. you experienced it first hand
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• 1404[11:22:49] <Iridos> maybe metapackages should just "recommend" packages… and full removal would be done by installing a remove-gnome (or whatever) meta-package, that conflicts with all components
• 1405[11:23:05] <Iridos> that would remove the current problem and open up a whole new can of problems
• 1406[11:24:41] <babilen> Iridos: Yes .. which brings us back to: replaced-url
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• 1419[11:32:05] <Iridos> right
• 1420[11:33:00] <Iridos> babilen, it's good to see such good progress since 2011
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• 1422[11:33:36] <babilen> I know
• 1423[11:33:40] <Iridos> You know like dog-years and human-years to account for different life spans? In software-years, the dog already died. Twice.
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• 1426[11:34:08] <babilen> Well, DEP-6 made progress .. so I'm not entirely sure *why* this issue hasn't been resolved tbh
• 1427[11:35:08] <babilen> Wait, DEP-6 is not the one I'm thinking of right now as that got rejected
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• 1434[11:38:56] <Iridos> interesting thread, though. Not sure I read it before (like… in 2011ish)
• 1435[11:39:38] <babilen> Well .. I tried
• 1436[11:40:22] <Iridos> oh… should have seen the email. seems I've never seen your name
• 1437[11:40:28] <babilen> replaced-url
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• 1439[11:41:46] <babilen> That mail was probably too long :)
• 1440[11:41:48] <Iridos> urgh
• 1441[11:42:07] <Iridos> I hate that gnome guy who is quoted there… whoever it is
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• 1443[11:42:46] <Iridos> "but users are too dumb and we, the wise elders have to force them for their own good" has never been a good argument
• 1444[11:43:10] <babilen> Not sure where I found that .. might be worth tracking it down. Should have attributed it correctly :-/
• 1445[11:43:51] <babilen> replaced-url
• 1446[11:43:52] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 1447[11:43:56] <Iridos> maybe better for him that you didn'T :)
• 1448[11:44:05] <babilen> Foundsd it
• 1449[11:44:19] <Iridos> heh
• 1450[11:45:11] <Iridos> well, we can move that to -offtopic… because… that's actually a much more fundamental issue. I think you should always assume that any reader/user is intelligent and able to learn
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• 1498[11:54:28] <babilen> Don't you need firmware-ralink ?
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• 1502[11:54:53] <babilen> Ah, no that's old old old
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• 1511[11:58:45] <doublehp> how can "tail /proc/mounts" run from two different environments (on the same machine) produce two different outputs ?
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• 1513[11:59:04] <BCMM> doublehp: what does "environments" mean?
• 1514[11:59:22] <doublehp> one is a root console, the other one is an udev script
• 1515[11:59:27] <BCMM> are we talking just environment variables? or is there a chroot, docker container, VM, etc. involved
• 1516[11:59:27] <Deknos> doublehp, may be if you have different mount namespaces?
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• 1519[11:59:46] <BCMM> doublehp: is the udev script perhaps running early in boot, when the mounts are not set up yet?
• 1520[11:59:53] <doublehp> Deknos: how do i check this ?
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• 1522[12:00:14] <doublehp> BCMM: nope; post boot; 1h after starting X
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• 1525[12:00:33] <doublehp> each time i plug a usb stick
• 1526[12:00:39] <doublehp> repeatable
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• 1528[12:01:24] <doublehp> udev script is started after i plug the usb stick
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• 1530[12:01:57] <Deknos> you should know that on a standard debian, or one of your scripts is in a superuberspecial systemd-service located with few privileges?
• 1531[12:02:36] <Deknos> can you show the output of both commands before and after the plugin on pastebin?
• 1532[12:02:45] <doublehp> Deknos: if udev has few priviledges, how can he see things that root can't see ?
• 1533[12:03:10] <doublehp> Deknos: it's complicated to paste; and fact is, udev script has one more line than root console
• 1534[12:04:05] <doublehp> can cgroup mess around ?
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• 1537[12:04:48] <doublehp> Deknos: the only difference is that, for the newly plugged usb memory, the udev script have mounted it, and can list it's content, but classic root can't.
• 1538[12:05:54] <doublehp> the only proof root has is to "cat /proc/$(pidofudevscript)/mounts", there, I can see it; but not in /proc/mounts. Udev script is doing sleep 100 to let me time to check it; script can see the mount point via df -f, before and after sleep
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• 1540[12:06:38] <doublehp> and udev script can see the content of /media/mntpnt/ , before and after sleep; while root can't. as if there was a chroot, or a sandbox
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• 1549[12:10:55] <Deknos> yeah, systemd can have configuration which deny that privileges. but i am not aware that debian has that activated.
• 1550[12:11:02] <Deknos> but perhaps my knowledge is outdated.
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• 1553[12:11:55] <doublehp> so it may be impossible for an udev script to mount a block that would be accessible for the rest of the system ?
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• 1559[12:14:57] <Deknos> well not without an additional service, on your system.
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• 1562[12:15:13] <Deknos> do you have an STANDARD debian stable without an extra stuff or configuration?
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• 1616[12:50:48] <doublehp> Deknos: yes, I have a classic legacy debian (not ubuntu or raspbian). But i have fixed my issue. Created a new service to WA this "feature".
• 1617[12:50:51] <doublehp> solved
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• 1643[13:01:22] <lars_> greetings, I have this old western digital NAS server (some sort of debian on it) that I managed to brick. So I took out the hard drive and currently I'm trying to access a password protected folder. I do know the password for it.
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• 1674[13:18:06] <rendar> how i can reinstall grub from the debian installation cd, since if i try to run command line, it starts a very poor /bin/sh without commands i need like grub-install and efibootmgr?!?!
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• 1688[13:28:42] <dfstorm> rendar: Lauch the installation cd "live". Connect to internet or mount the repo, mount then chroot into your installation. then re-install grub ?
• 1689[13:29:07] <jimm> usually you need a chroot and to mount stuff in it
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• 1691[13:29:57] <jimm> rendar, did you install debian on a disk?
• 1692[13:30:12] <rendar> yes
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• 1695[13:31:10] <jimm> ok, then you would make a dir off of an installer run, then mount /proc /sys and /dev, chroot, then run grub-install
• 1696[13:32:00] <rendar> uhm wait
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• 1699[13:35:48] <jimm> do you have a netinst image on a usb stick?
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• 1722[13:49:00] <rendar> sorry guys
• 1723[13:49:05] <rendar> i was afk for a while
• 1724[13:49:16] <rendar> jimm: i have been able to boot from linux again
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• 1726[13:49:27] <rendar> jimm: so, now i'm under my debian installation
• 1727[13:49:39] <rendar> jimm: i can do that from here instead of live cd
• 1728[13:50:01] <rendar> dfstorm, jimm: so, basically what i want to achieve is to install a UEFI grub
• 1729[13:50:04] <rendar> signed grub
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• 1732[13:54:02] <dfstorm> rendar: Im an ex archlinux user. I only did that there. but if it's alike: you must have an efi boot partition, then install grub efi support. then generate the linux kernel ramdisk init. then genrate grub config with efi flag. sorry if my help cause more question and is not 100% accurate
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• 1738[13:56:15] <rendar> i have the efi boot partition
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• 1740[13:56:21] <rendar> and there is grubx64.efi file
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• 1744[13:57:30] <dfstorm> rendar: maybe this can help you : replaced-url
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• 1746[13:57:56] <rendar> thanks
• 1747[13:58:03] <dfstorm> rendar: (for the grub install part)
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• 1825[14:36:00] <nullbyte_> cuda-9-0 cuda-demo-suite-9-0 cuda-drivers cuda-runtime-9-0 libcuda1-384 nvidia-384 nvidia-384-dev nvidia-opencl-icd-384
• 1826[14:36:04] <nullbyte_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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• 1828[14:36:11] <nullbyte_> how can i remove seprate install only one package with apt-get
• 1829[14:36:17] <nullbyte_> i don't want to remove all packages
• 1830[14:36:26] <nullbyte_> separate
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• 1834[14:37:07] <guest1024> hello, impossible to connect to my wifi network debian 9 kde
• 1835[14:38:03] <nullbyte_> ?
• 1836[14:38:05] <nullbyte_> who knows
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• 1838[14:38:30] <PerfDave> guest1024: What do you mean by "impossible to connect"? How are you trying to connect and what happens when you do?
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• 1841[14:40:06] <guest1024> PerfDave: I was connected during the install but after installing debian 9/kde I can see my network but I don't get any association by kde/network manager
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• 1845[14:40:59] <jimm> well the usual thing to do is first identify the hardware, get the driver and the firmware workign, check to see if that gives us an interface, then install something like nm or wicd (assuming the person is going to connect to different nets), test to see if it scans
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• 1847[14:41:50] <jimm> ok, so that eliminates identifying the device, and getting the driver and firmware working
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• 1849[14:42:30] <jimm> can you see several different nets?
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• 1882[14:58:46] <dfstorm> guest1024: Sometime it's the router that will fail to assign a new IP address (dhcpd) to your installation after you just got one while installing. Rebooting the router usualy do the tric
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• 1897[15:05:56] <rant> I would not recommend wicd for anything other than academic exercise in python. Its horribly buggy and was actually causing my driver to crash, removing it solved my issues
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• 1906[15:08:17] <hyperlumic> dfstorm: Which routers do that? Because that's a massive misbehavior on the part of a DHCP server.
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• 1912[15:10:29] <dfstorm> hyperlumic: I don't really know if it's the router fault... but rebooting it did the trick in many situation were I was unable to get an IP. It happen on many router...
• 1913[15:11:22] <dfstorm> hyperlumic: and on many debian installation. but it don't happen when I install archlinux or gentoo... but still: not enought data
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• 1915[15:12:05] <hyperlumic> dfstorm: I think you're speaking from personal experience, because no, that's not correct/proper function. DHCP, by standard, will hand out the existing lease if the same MAC makes a DHCP request.
• 1916[15:12:20] <jimm> hi, how can I list all the packages I've held?
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• 1919[15:12:54] <dfstorm> hyperlumic: I do. that why I suggested to reboot it for now and maybe found the true problem later.
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• 1922[15:14:17] <hyperlumic> dfstorm: My issue is that you're phrasing your personal experience as common fact or knowledge when it isn't.
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• 1926[15:15:11] <jimm> ! hold
• 1927[15:15:11] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>.
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• 1933[15:16:57] <anexit> Anyone know that dubstep song that is about a astronaut and he says "We've got it" or You've got it
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• 1935[15:18:15] <jkemppainen> anexit: see #music or ##music , this channel is solely for Debian support
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• 1937[15:18:43] <anexit> 10-4
• 1938[15:18:45] <guest1024> dfstorm: humm, nothing good. It is a kde issue not network. I installed deb9 on external usb and works fine with lxce
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• 1943[15:20:45] <dfstorm> hyperlumic: Sorry. It was meant to propose a temporary solution.
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• 1947[15:22:46] <dfstorm> guest1024: The only difference I can think is that kde is unsing nm-applet and lxde is using the gtk ui. Have you tried to use the nmcli ?
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• 1955[15:27:17] <guest1024> dfstorm: I give up with kde. I wil make a new install with default desktop to see if it is kde issue
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• 1957[15:31:33] <PerfDave> guest1024: Have you checked /var/log/daemon.log to see what network-manager is doing under the hood?
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• 1963[15:35:57] <guest1024> PerfDave: How I can chek it, please ?
• 1964[15:36:30] <PerfDave> guest1024: less /var/log/daemon.log ?
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• 1973[15:39:25] <dfstorm> guest1024: PerfDave Maybe journalctl NetworkManager and systemctl status NetworkManager ?
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• 1977[15:40:52] <guest1024> dfstorm: i have 643 lignes...
• 1978[15:40:59] <PerfDave> dfstorm: *shrug* It's not what I'd do but if that works for you..
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• 1980[15:41:30] * silverballz The Unix program cat is used to concatenate and display files. Its name comes from the word catenate.
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• 1988[15:43:42] <guest1024> dfstorm: thanks, anyway i'll try another way or come back to other distribution.
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• 1991[15:44:10] <dfstorm> PerfDave: I don't want to opose your solutions.. and I don't say what I say is better... I add ways... hm...
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• 1998[15:45:45] <PerfDave> FWIW I'm using Debian with KDE just fine with Network-Manager
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• 2001[15:46:39] <dfstorm> PerfDave: Same here
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• 2023[15:57:25] <syshape> I have a littre network problem, I've set up an interface with 'ip link, ip addr, ip route', but's it's marked in state UNKNOWN and I can't reach the network, would you know what did I missed ?
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• 2030[15:58:29] <RoyK> syshape: pastebin output of 'ip link list', please
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• 2044[16:03:33] <syshape> replaced-url
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• 2046[16:04:16] <greycat> Your system is completely broken. There's supposed to be an "lo" also.
• 2047[16:04:59] <syshape> I cant copy paste, I juste handcopy the interface I have a problem with
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• 2050[16:06:13] <greycat> But there are OTHER interfaces? Ones that work? So you ssh in on that interface (the one that works, because you set it up in /e/n/i normally) and then you can paste from your ssh client.
• 2051[16:07:14] <jelly> syshape: a camera shot of the screen (uploaded to eg. imgur.com) showing complete output of those commands is acceptable if there's no other way to paste lots of text as text
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• 2054[16:07:42] <RoyK> syshape: ip reports it's up, though - what's the ip addresses for the host and gateway? if they are on the same network, you should get an entry in 'ip neigh list'
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• 2057[16:08:43] <jelly> ip n is a newfangled way to do arp -a?
• 2058[16:09:03] <RoyK> jelly: ip n covers both ipv4 and ipv6
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• 2060[16:09:07] <RoyK> arp is ipv4 only
• 2061[16:09:31] <jelly> woohoo!
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• 2064[16:10:36] <RoyK> jelly: good to know when you suddenly have to work with ipv6 ;)
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• 2066[16:11:04] * RoyK is setting up more infoscreens on *only* ipv6 - rpi is nice
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• 2074[16:16:24] <quarterback> Hi, I try to connect with bluetooth speakers.I see them in bluetooth software in debian stretch 9.4 but when I connect via bluetooth, the software shows that its connected and it disconnects immediately in one second. After this, repeated connect attempts don't work. How to fix this?
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• 2076[16:16:55] <syshape> replaced-url
• 2077[16:17:16] <rant> quarterback: I'd check your kernel logs (dmesg) and see if that has any info and if that doesnt lead you in the right direction I'd go commandline with hci-tool or w/e and try do it manually to see if you can get some more output
• 2078[16:18:03] <rant> quarterback: some more info on bluetooth in debian, that should tell you about the command line tools (that will likely produce more debug output on the console): replaced-url
• 2079[16:18:23] <quarterback> rant, There is no dmesg log file.
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• 2081[16:18:51] <rant> quarterback: dmesg is a command that outputs the kernel buffer onto the console
• 2082[16:19:11] <rant> quarterback: the most recent messages will be at the end and would likely show something related to you trying to connect the BT
• 2083[16:19:12] <RoyK> rant: and neighbors?
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• 2085[16:19:21] <RoyK> syshape: erm - for you
• 2086[16:19:28] <quarterback> rant, I check the debian link you gave me, brb
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• 2088[16:20:00] <rant> quarterback: you'd want to pay particular attention to the command line tools in that wiki, as those are what'd help you debug
• 2089[16:20:06] <jelly> syshape: looks vaguely like the physical link isn't up, is cable connected and port enabled on switch side?
• 2090[16:20:26] <rant> quarterback: I personally can't be of more help I only used BT once and it was about 10 years ago.
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• 2092[16:20:38] <PerfDave> "ip neigh list" shows nearby horses
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• 2094[16:21:23] <rant> heh
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• 2099[16:22:15] <quarterback> rant, Here is the log of systemctl status bluetooth : replaced-url
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• 2103[16:24:28] <quarterback> rant, I understand, I'm trying to connct with bluetooth after 12 years
• 2104[16:24:30] <syshape> jelly: RoyK: omg, the interface wasnt connected in vmware, now it works ! although I don't understand why it was listed if it was disconnected
• 2105[16:24:47] <RoyK> lol
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• 2107[16:25:00] <quarterback> connect*
• 2108[16:25:04] <syshape> thank you a lot for your help
• 2109[16:25:27] <greycat> "in vmware" .......
• 2110[16:25:40] <greycat> 27 minutes later
• 2111[16:25:42] <jelly> syshape: that's a way to disconnect the virtual cable (eg. at boot)
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• 2113[16:26:15] <jelly> the virtual network device is still present
• 2114[16:26:48] <jelly> well I could have recognized 00:50:56 vendor OUI
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• 2116[16:26:54] <rabbitear_sdf> hey jelly
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• 2118[16:27:23] <rabbitear_sdf> just saying hi, don't wanna detrack from the room of debian
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• 2120[16:27:37] <jelly> okay, hello
• 2121[16:27:55] <rabbitear_sdf> tgif
• 2122[16:28:15] <syshape> Oh ok connected is about the virtual cable when I thougth it was about the virtual device, silly me
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• 2126[16:29:27] <jelly> removing the device would indeed disappear the iface from the guest
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• 2135[16:34:44] <quarterback> rant, When I try to connect with hcitool using the command, hcitool cc 30:21:68:63:55:0E , I get this error: Can't create connection: Operation not permitted
• 2136[16:35:16] <quarterback> The mac address is the address of my bluetooth speakers
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• 2140[16:36:27] <quarterback> I also got a "No bluetooth dongle found" message in gnome-bluetooth gui.
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• 2142[16:36:58] <quarterback> Apparently, the same bluetooth speakers work well in windows. The dongle is a CSR 4.0 bluetooth adapter.
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• 2147[16:38:12] <rant> quarterback: you may need some kind of group permissions, run it as root first to verify that permissions are in fact the only issue
• 2148[16:38:26] <quarterback> rant, I did run it as root.
• 2149[16:38:37] <rant> quarterback: and you got the permission error as root?
• 2150[16:38:42] <quarterback> rant, No, I didn't sorry. Let me try that.
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• 2154[16:39:11] <rant> quarterback: if it works as root its then just a matter of figuring out what permissions are needed and granting them to your user
• 2155[16:39:26] <quarterback> rant, I did now, there is nothing, just a blank output.
• 2156[16:40:04] <quarterback> rant, Usually, the bluetooth speakers make a sound when something connects to them. This time there is no sound from them.
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• 2158[16:41:27] <quarterback> rant, The bluetooth adapter is blinking and somethings its always on like its communicating while being connected.
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• 2161[16:42:02] <quarterback> rant, I also see no bluetooth adapter in gnome-bluetooth gui.
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• 2164[16:43:09] <quarterback> rant, seems like it didn't connect as root.
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• 2194[16:53:57] <rant> quarterback: I really dont know much about this and I'm in the middle of fillin out tax forms.. heh.. hopefully someone else here can help you I knew enough to point ya in the right direction
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• 2209[16:59:27] <quarterback> rant, I appreciate, thanks. I have to do something else now and can come back for more bluetooth stuff on debian.
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• 2211[16:59:33] <debron> Hello
• 2212[16:59:38] <rabbitear_sdf> hi
• 2213[16:59:44] <debron> ehm, lets see if someone could help me
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• 2215[16:59:48] <rabbitear_sdf> what is on your mind?
• 2216[17:00:05] <rabbitear_sdf> I can help you debron
• 2217[17:00:16] <debron> I am trying to add a new mode to xrandr, but instead of using cvt command to get the Mode Line, I am getting it from my decoded edid file, the one of my display
• 2218[17:00:36] <rabbitear_sdf> so?
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• 2220[17:00:52] <debron> but when i add the mode, its assigned automatically to HDMI-2 output... i dont have any HDMI-2 on my computer, i need it to be assigned to HDMI-1
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• 2223[17:01:08] <rabbitear_sdf> --output ?
• 2224[17:01:12] <debron> so i try to force it with xrandr --output HDMI-1 --newmode BLABLABLA
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• 2226[17:01:17] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: what is wrong with you?
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• 2229[17:01:21] <debron> but still creating for different output
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• 2231[17:01:27] <rabbitear_sdf> look
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• 2233[17:01:47] <rabbitear_sdf> did you even run xrandr by itself?
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• 2235[17:01:52] <rabbitear_sdf> nope
• 2236[17:01:57] <debron> what do you mean?
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• 2238[17:02:04] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: come back when you have more information
• 2239[17:02:12] <debron> huh?
• 2240[17:02:25] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: its not enough
• 2241[17:02:35] <debron> what information do you want?
• 2242[17:02:52] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: your facebook account
• 2243[17:02:58] <debron> ok
• 2244[17:03:05] <debron> if someone please could help, i appreciate
• 2245[17:03:17] <rabbitear_sdf> what?
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• 2251[17:03:37] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: you barely say anything debron
• 2252[17:03:48] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: maybe you have that ego
• 2253[17:04:01] <jelly> rabbitear_sdf: this isn't a chat channel, keep your lines in here to tech support please
• 2254[17:04:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o greycat
• 2255[17:04:10] <rabbitear_sdf> :)
• 2256[17:04:17] <debron> rabbit I think you are just fooling, I dont wanna be rude, but my head is not for this right now xD
• 2257[17:04:19] <greycat> Oh, jelly is going the soft route first. OK. I'll let that play out.
• 2258[17:04:22] <rabbitear_sdf> I'm just messing with him
• 2259[17:04:25] <debron> Has been 2 days trying to fix this
• 2260[17:04:27] <jelly> rabbitear_sdf: don't.
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• 2262[17:04:32] <rabbitear_sdf> okay
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• 2264[17:05:44] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: to do xrandr?
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• 2266[17:05:58] <debron> no, to add the mode line i want too add
• 2267[17:06:01] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: are the monitors VGA ?
• 2268[17:06:05] <debron> not just the one cvt provides to me
• 2269[17:06:13] <rabbitear_sdf> oh add the newmode
• 2270[17:06:18] <rabbitear_sdf> I forgot what it is
• 2271[17:06:24] <rabbitear_sdf> you have to add the newmode
• 2272[17:06:28] <jelly> debron: can you pastebin the current "xrandr -q" output for a start
• 2273[17:06:31] <rabbitear_sdf> then apply it
• 2274[17:06:34] <debron> yeah
• 2275[17:06:38] <debron> jelly: omw
• 2276[17:06:47] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: key word is 'new'mode
• 2277[17:06:59] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: then you apply it
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• 2280[17:07:29] <rabbitear_sdf> I think then you add or something
• 2281[17:07:34] <debron> thi is the edid file im trying to copy the mode line from
• 2282[17:07:36] <debron> replaced-url
• 2283[17:07:45] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: you could read the man page, it does say it
• 2284[17:07:52] <debron> and this is the xrandr -q output : replaced-url
• 2285[17:07:59] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: I suppose maybe you have to know something about Xorg tho
• 2286[17:08:05] <debron> rabbitear_sdf: please leave me alone
• 2287[17:08:12] <rabbitear_sdf> k
• 2288[17:08:18] <rabbitear_sdf> debron: but its the truth
• 2289[17:08:25] <rabbitear_sdf> :)
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• 2294[17:09:28] <jelly> debron: hm, are the existing 1920x1080 at 50 or 49.95 for HDMI-1 not good enough?
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• 2297[17:10:04] <debron> I am having a problem with any hd resolution, I cant see margins...
• 2298[17:10:22] <debron> its like zoomed or something. my TV provides a wrong edid information
• 2299[17:10:29] <jelly> debron: oh, it's a TV?
• 2300[17:10:33] <debron> yeah
• 2301[17:10:39] <jelly> which vendor?
• 2302[17:10:43] <debron> Philips
• 2303[17:11:00] <rabbitear_sdf> I am actually the best at old X crap with old TVs
• 2304[17:11:06] <rabbitear_sdf> in real life
• 2305[17:11:19] <jelly> debron: TV sets usually overscan unless you do something like explicitely set name of that HDMI input to PC
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• 2307[17:11:26] <rabbitear_sdf> but I'll let you talk on debron
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• 2309[17:12:04] <jelly> rabbitear_sdf: again, keep your lines in here to tech support only. Unless you have specific information to contribute to an issue, best keep quiet
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• 2311[17:12:13] <rabbitear_sdf> look
• 2312[17:12:21] <rabbitear_sdf> I did this before
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• 2319[17:12:55] <jelly> greycat: you win!
• 2320[17:13:26] <debron> jelly: do you mean in the TV menu?
• 2321[17:13:34] <debron> xD
• 2322[17:13:47] <debron> or in my OS?
• 2323[17:14:02] <jelly> debron: in the TV
• 2324[17:14:07] <debron> well look
• 2325[17:14:21] <debron> in the TV i can only choose Mode if 720p resolution is set
• 2326[17:14:37] <debron> then a new menu appears: Mode selection , let me choose between PC and HD
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• 2329[17:14:52] <debron> in PC i get OK proportions, i can see all the screen, but image blurs
• 2330[17:14:58] <debron> so i cant barely read red text
• 2331[17:15:06] <debron> its really bad image quality
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• 2334[17:15:23] <debron> in HD mode, image quality is OK, how it should be, but i cant see margins
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• 2336[17:15:33] <debron> these are my options for now
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• 2339[17:15:41] <jelly> debron: current res is set to 720p, that would be blurry
• 2340[17:15:54] <debron> yeah
• 2341[17:15:59] <debron> blurry red colors
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• 2343[17:16:05] <debron> specially the red text
• 2344[17:16:08] <debron> almost impossible to read
• 2345[17:16:14] <jelly> so set "PC" on TV, then set 1920x1080 on linux
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• 2347[17:16:32] <debron> if i do that, the Mode selection of the TV disapears
• 2348[17:16:52] <jelly> wut
• 2349[17:16:57] <debron> and it changes to HD automatically, and i cant change back because the menu is not there
• 2350[17:17:12] <debron> yeah, the menu hides, only show if i set 720p resolution
• 2351[17:17:19] <debron> :/
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• 2353[17:17:38] <debron> look, in the TV especifications say that only suports 720p for PC
• 2354[17:18:00] <debron> I just dont believe that, but thats why i think it hides mode selection when im not in that specific resolution
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• 2356[17:18:21] <debron> replaced-url
• 2357[17:18:22] <jelly> that might be true for VGA input, how old is that model?
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• 2360[17:18:39] <debron> in that website, in especifications, look at the right column
• 2361[17:18:44] <debron> thats the accepted resolutions for PC
• 2362[17:18:48] <debron> and for HD mode
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• 2365[17:18:57] <debron> HD mode accepts 1080i
• 2366[17:19:03] <jelly> debron: says the native res is 1440 x 900
• 2367[17:19:08] <debron> yeah
• 2368[17:19:12] <jelly> use that
• 2369[17:19:20] <debron> i tried with 60 hz
• 2370[17:19:26] <debron> in xrandr , getting the line from cvt
• 2371[17:19:28] <jelly> and not 1080.
• 2372[17:19:32] <debron> and "Video not supported"
• 2373[17:19:44] <debron> 1440x900 60 hz
• 2374[17:19:51] <debron> cant set that resolution
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• 2376[17:20:15] <jelly> hmph
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• 2379[17:20:28] <debron> i did that yesterday, not good results, just blue screen "video not supported"
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• 2382[17:20:48] <debron> thats why im looking at TV edid information
• 2383[17:20:57] <debron> i want to know why OS thinks its a 32"
• 2384[17:21:04] <debron> instead of a 19
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• 2386[17:21:26] <debron> also want to know how from the edid information the TV provides, what Mode it likes
• 2387[17:21:40] <jelly> the "blurry red" is a symptom of color encoding on hdmi
• 2388[17:21:45] <debron> in the pastebin i show before, one of the links is the edid file, decoded
• 2389[17:23:00] <debron> by the way, im using oibaf driver
• 2390[17:23:11] <debron> maybe its usefull information
• 2391[17:23:25] <debron> before installing that drivers, higher resolution i could set was 1024x768
• 2392[17:23:52] <debron> my graphic card is a Intel UHD 630
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• 2396[17:24:36] <jelly> what's oibaf? (apart from reverse fabio)
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• 2398[17:25:42] <debron> are open source drivers for intel integrated devices
• 2399[17:25:46] <jhutchins_wk> !dpi
• 2400[17:25:46] <dpkg> Your Dots Per Inch (DPI) setting affects the size of your fonts. Remove any explicit DPI settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or your display manager's configuration file, and X should autodetect your DPI. If not, add DisplaySize Width_in_millimeters Height_in_millimeters to Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ask me about <xorg config>. replaced-url
• 2401[17:26:07] <debron> jhutchins_wk: didnt helped, already tried
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• 2403[17:26:12] <debron> :/
• 2404[17:26:13] <daned33> Hi there
• 2405[17:26:23] <debron> hi
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• 2407[17:26:45] <jelly> debron: intel _only_ has open source drivers. Which debian release is this?
• 2408[17:26:52] <debron> jhutchins_wk: I cahnged the DPI while in any HD mode, and still loosing the margins
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• 2410[17:27:06] <debron> jelly: right now im on ubuntu
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• 2413[17:27:14] <debron> just installed 3 days ago
• 2414[17:27:19] <debron> im usually a debian user
• 2415[17:27:23] <debron> just wanted to try
• 2416[17:28:01] <debron> jelly, for this integrated graphics, oibaf drivers work, default ones wont
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• 2419[17:28:23] <jelly> then you'll have to ask for help in #ubuntu, unless you boot debian again
• 2420[17:28:28] <debron> there is a fix, setting in grub a line: alpha support= 1 something like that
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• 2422[17:28:34] <daned33> I'm having some issues with permissions and certain users accessing files/folders. I'm trying to allow emby to read files. I have added the emby user to the group that owns the files when they are added to the folder.
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• 2424[17:28:39] <debron> ok
• 2425[17:28:50] <bolovanos> hithere
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• 2428[17:30:01] <debron> jelly: before installing debian (I will right now) , do you think it has support for UHD 630 graphic card? its quite new, Intel i3 8100, 8th generation CPU integrated graphics
• 2429[17:30:35] <debron> well... oibaf is for debian too ofc... so nvm
• 2430[17:30:44] <debron> in worst case ill install oibaf under debian again
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• 2433[17:31:18] <debron> please, when i come back (and i will) try to help me with this problem. Cant afford a new monitor right now
• 2434[17:31:31] <debron> thanks for the attention you gave me, will be back
• 2435[17:31:33] <debron> bye
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• 2438[17:32:20] <daned33> replaced-url
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• 2440[17:32:28] <daned33> emby is part of the daned33 group
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• 2443[17:35:07] <jelly> daned33: your files are mostly owned by daned33 and emby group, the other way round. what fails to work?
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• 2445[17:35:25] <daned33> emby is unable to read the files
• 2446[17:35:55] <jelly> daned33: is user emby member of emby group?
• 2447[17:36:07] <daned33> my workaround was to set all the ownerships to emby group and user
• 2448[17:36:10] <daned33> yes
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• 2450[17:36:47] <daned33> uhh. clarification, emby can't read the file with group daned33
• 2451[17:37:05] <debron> one more question please. Do you recommend very new hardware to get buster instead of stretch?
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• 2453[17:37:25] <jelly> daned33: emby has to log out and back in for the group memberships to be applied, if you added them to that group recently
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• 2455[17:37:51] <daned33> so basically restart the software would do the trick? or
• 2456[17:37:54] <debron> the use im going to give to this computer is: web develop, games, learn programming
• 2457[17:37:57] <jelly> debron: if it's hardware that got out in 2017-2018, yes
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• 2459[17:38:08] <debron> okay thanks
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• 2461[17:39:01] <jelly> debron: it might or might not be enough to use stretch and some backports
• 2462[17:39:52] <jelly> daned33: if you have a software service, you'll have to configure it to have the correct effective group somehow
• 2463[17:39:53] <daned33> jelly: look at that, thanks. Turned out I did it right, just wasn't aware of the logging out and back in
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• 2466[17:40:20] <jelly> yeah, that's a common misstep
• 2467[17:40:21] <daned33> I restarted emby(software) and it read it instantly
• 2468[17:40:53] <daned33> What I did was right :) makes me feel a bit better hah, thanks!
• 2469[17:40:58] <debron> jelly: wont take the risk right now, I am very tired, i want to go the latest just in case. I come from stretch, had it few days ago until i bought this pc
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• 2471[17:41:16] <debron> one more question, and sorry.. this is the right directory to get the images for USB stick install?
• 2472[17:41:26] <debron> replaced-url
• 2473[17:41:36] <debron> hd-media?
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• 2475[17:41:37] <jelly> probably not
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• 2478[17:42:22] <greycat> !netinst
• 2479[17:42:22] <dpkg> methinks netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See replaced-url
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• 2481[17:42:38] <debron> greycat i cant netinst, i have a wifi usb network card
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• 2483[17:42:50] <jelly> debron: if you need to install testing, do a minimal installation of stable, then do a release upgrade to testing, then install other stuff
• 2484[17:42:50] <greycat> firmware installer
• 2485[17:42:53] <greycat> !firmware installer
• 2486[17:42:53] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See replaced-url
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• 2488[17:42:57] <jelly> !firmware images
• 2489[17:42:58] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
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• 2492[17:43:04] * jelly slow
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• 2495[17:43:20] <debron> :D
• 2496[17:43:25] <greycat> no, yours is the right one :-/
• 2497[17:43:41] <debron> which? firmware image?
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• 2499[17:43:51] <debron> for realtek usb wifi card
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• 2501[17:44:02] <jelly> ah. yes, okay, !firmware images it is
• 2502[17:44:24] <debron> jelly: are you sure i shouldnt just install the buster directly?
• 2503[17:44:41] <debron> better idea to get stretch then release upgrade?
• 2504[17:44:47] <greycat> I doubt there is even a pre-alpha buster installer at this early stage.
• 2505[17:44:54] <jelly> I'm sure you're going to find interesting bugs in the buster installer if you use it
• 2506[17:45:05] <debron> ;D
• 2507[17:45:08] <debron> okay
• 2508[17:45:33] <jelly> if your goal is to install buster, and not test the future installer
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• 2510[17:46:08] <debron> my goal is to install buster
• 2511[17:46:10] <debron> :)
• 2512[17:46:15] <debron> okay thanks you
• 2513[17:46:24] <jelly> right. so install stretch and then do stretch->buster
• 2514[17:46:31] <annadane> and also if your goal is to bust your system
• 2515[17:46:38] <jelly> and then install everything else
• 2516[17:46:42] <debron> thanks you guys
• 2517[17:46:45] <annadane> (i'll have to stop making that joke when bullseye is next stable)
• 2518[17:46:57] <debron> xD
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• 2522[17:47:42] <debron> To install Debian testing, we recommend you use the Buster Alpha 2
• 2523[17:47:49] <jelly> it's a LIE
• 2524[17:47:53] <debron> alpha 2 maybe its good?
• 2525[17:47:55] <debron> lol
• 2526[17:47:56] <jelly> the web page sucks!
• 2527[17:48:05] <jelly> :-)
• 2528[17:48:16] <debron> okay Ill follow your lead
• 2529[17:48:19] <annadane> !don't break debian
• 2530[17:48:20] <dpkg> methinks dont break debian is replaced-url
• 2531[17:48:24] <debron> downloading a firmware netinst image
• 2532[17:48:27] <greycat> They recommend that you do this because when you find and report bugs it will help them. Not because it will help you (in the short term).
• 2533[17:48:29] <annadane> ...mentions the danger of following tutorials on the internet
• 2534[17:48:30] <jelly> but come back in 6-9 months and the new d-i might be a-okay
• 2535[17:48:32] <debron> then i guess ill have to extract to the USB
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• 2538[17:48:51] <jelly> debron: there's nothing to extract, you just write the whole iso to the whole usb
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• 2540[17:48:55] <annadane> replaced-url
• 2541[17:48:56] <debron> greycat: thats fair actually
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• 2543[17:49:17] <jelly> annadane: yesah but that advice is written on replaced-url
• 2544[17:49:17] <debron> jelly: i did that for ubuntu installation , thinking: ah i have new pc, it has to work
• 2545[17:49:20] <debron> and didnt
• 2546[17:49:23] <debron> until i stracted
• 2547[17:49:35] <debron> unetbootin i think i used
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• 2549[17:49:39] <jelly> ubuntu's images are different from debian's images
• 2550[17:49:44] <greycat> "I have a new PC, so I expect it to FAIL because the hardware is too fuckin' new."
• 2551[17:49:47] <debron> okay I will try
• 2552[17:49:51] <annadane> wat
• 2553[17:50:05] <debron> greycat: never got that working in old pcs either
• 2554[17:50:09] <debron> iso in the usb stick...
• 2555[17:50:19] <annadane> oh
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• 2557[17:50:35] <annadane> find the heretic and purge them, then
• 2558[17:50:46] <jelly> but yeah, my general rule of thumb buying hardware specifically to work with linux is: never the latest hardware, has to be at least 12 months on the market
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• 2560[17:51:43] <jelly> and then it will only be slightly broken and probably not work with debian anyway
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• 2568[17:52:38] <hever> Hello, why do some php pakages have a version and others not? I mean some have php7.0-xxx others are just php-xxx
• 2569[17:52:38] * jelly goes to feed the dragon with tapes
• 2570[17:52:59] <annadane> which is a euphemism for...?
• 2571[17:53:19] <greycat> In stretch, "php-fpm" is simply a meta-package that depends on "php7.0-fpm" so that you get the latest version
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• 2573[17:53:45] <greycat> Just like "linux-image-amd64" depends on the latest stable kernel image, etc.
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• 2575[17:54:05] <annadane> ,v php
• 2576[17:54:07] <judd> Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 1:7.2+60; sid: 1:7.2+61
• 2577[17:54:16] <annadane> oh. i had thought 7.1 was latest
• 2578[17:54:38] <hever> APCU for example was php5-apcu and is now php-apcu and I don't see why it's not php7.0-apcu
• 2579[17:54:44] <greycat> I think upstream is up to 7.2 now
• 2580[17:55:00] <greycat> ,depends php-apcu
• 2581[17:55:01] <judd> Package php-apcu in stretch/amd64 -- depends: php-common (>= 1:7.0+33~), phpapi-20151012, libc6 (>= 2.14).
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• 2583[17:55:14] <greycat> *shrug*
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• 2586[17:56:01] <greycat> Maybe it's so that when you upgrade to buster, you don't have to remove php7.0-apcu and install php7.1-apcu or whatever?
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• 2589[17:56:59] <debron> by the way, i guess my network card will be recognized in the installation
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• 2592[17:57:15] <debron> so ill be able to apt-get after install minimal system in command line
• 2593[17:57:18] <debron> am i right?
• 2594[17:57:22] <greycat> That's the goal.
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• 2596[17:57:28] <hever> replaced-url
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• 2602[17:58:42] <hever> greycat, a prefix would be more helpful because you can have then multiple php versions without big problems... I'm having php5 and php7.0 at the moment running... having no version number is not that nice
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• 2604[17:58:49] <greycat> the "php4" examples on that page scare me a little
• 2605[17:59:39] <debron> greycat: if the firmware its non-free will come at the install image? replaced-url
• 2606[17:59:47] <greycat> !firmware images
• 2607[17:59:48] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
• 2608[18:00:00] <debron> aahh sorry
• 2609[18:00:04] <debron> thanks you
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• 2613[18:00:22] <annadane> debron, link the page with the wrong debian install advice so i can fix it?
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• 2618[18:01:16] <debron> replaced-url
• 2619[18:01:21] <debron> jelly said its a lie :P
• 2620[18:01:37] <debron> this is what you mean annadane ?
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• 2623[18:02:09] <annadane> oh it's not a wiki page, okay well, i'll file a bug
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• 2625[18:02:25] <debron> :)
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• 2630[18:05:30] <annadane> it does give a list of errata but it's still bad
• 2631[18:06:03] <greycat> I bet there are a lot more than 3 issues, one of them being "it still uses old art".
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• 2638[18:08:21] <debron> hahaha yeah i saw that
• 2639[18:08:32] <debron> thats why i posted you the alpha 2 site
• 2640[18:08:40] <debron> thinking: well if thats all, i think i could do fine
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• 2642[18:08:53] <debron> ill not install in a virtual machine
• 2643[18:09:01] <debron> i dont care about the old art...
• 2644[18:09:41] <debron> i am still a bit excentric about installing stretch and then upgrading
• 2645[18:09:47] <debron> i hope its not too dirty
• 2646[18:09:58] <annadane> well the general advice is if you need something that just works use stable
• 2647[18:10:06] <annadane> testing and especially sid can break
• 2648[18:10:16] <debron> well i dont think its going to be like big companies patching their systems leaving a mess
• 2649[18:10:31] <debron> sid is the unstable?
• 2650[18:10:46] <annadane> no, though testing tends to lag behind general fixes and security patches compared to stable and sid
• 2651[18:10:49] <annadane> yes, sid = unstable
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• 2655[18:11:08] <debron> maybe Buster its okay
• 2656[18:11:19] <debron> ill see in an hour or so
• 2657[18:11:27] <annadane> it's up to you, i'd keep backups no matter what release you use though
• 2658[18:11:29] <debron> less
• 2659[18:11:36] <debron> yeah
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• 2664[18:11:42] <annadane> even on stable, though on stable you can afford backing up less
• 2665[18:11:45] <debron> i got 2nd usb stick with files i want to save
• 2666[18:13:01] <annadane> !sns
• 2667[18:13:01] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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• 2670[18:13:46] <annadane> there's backports and there are some other ways to get newer software in stable, but again, it's ultimately up to the end-user, more people testing the next release is always a good thing
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• 2674[18:14:11] <annadane> i just want to use my computer for work, not fixing it, thus stable
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• 2692[18:21:52] <debron> sns xDD
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• 2695[18:22:59] <debron> look, 3 days ago, i Had a dell optiplex GX620 (year 05' or 95' cant remember lol) with stretch lxde
• 2696[18:23:06] <debron> i dont think i haave sns
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• 2699[18:23:57] <annadane> stage 1: denial
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• 2701[18:24:26] <jimm> isn't that a river in egypt?
• 2702[18:24:55] <debron> by look, i just got paid for one job, and spended 400 hundred euro in 8th gen intel processor, 1 motherboard, the case, a 8gb 2400 ram and the powersupply, sdd drive of only 120 gb.. since i couldnt afford a monitor, im using this shiny old tv thats giving me a lot of problems
• 2703[18:24:58] <debron> xD
• 2704[18:25:05] <debron> by luck i mean*
• 2705[18:25:23] <debron> 400 euro, not 400 hundred lol
• 2706[18:26:39] <debron> I dont have sns!! xD not in any stage
• 2707[18:26:49] <annadane> stage 2: anger
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• 2709[18:27:11] <debron> hahah
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• 2711[18:27:49] <debron> Ok lets do something, ill just install full stretch
• 2712[18:27:59] <debron> see if my graphic device its working good
• 2713[18:28:05] <debron> if it is, just stay in stretch
• 2714[18:28:25] <debron> if not, I try install oibaf drivers on it
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• 2716[18:28:44] <debron> if that doesnt work either i just have the choice of upgrading distro
• 2717[18:28:45] <annadane> the drivers may be in the debian repository, don't install them from the internet
• 2718[18:29:06] <rendar> well, i have a new debian, my network card interface is esp3s0, so i put in /etc/network/interfaces 'iface esp3s0 inet dhcp' ... but when i boot my computers it doesn't activate networking, i have to manually type dhclient esp3s0, it takes few seconds and then networking works..what's wrong? isn't that some service didn't started?
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• 2720[18:29:22] <debron> i seriously doubt it for this specific integrated g.
• 2721[18:29:29] <PerfDave> rendar: Does it also say "auto esp3s0" as per "man 5 interfaces"?
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• 2723[18:29:51] <debron> annadane: Intel UHD 630
• 2724[18:30:08] <annadane> i don't know too much about it but i'm sure someone does
• 2725[18:30:22] <rendar> PerfDave: hmm, nope
• 2726[18:30:28] <rendar> there isn't auto
• 2727[18:30:35] <PerfDave> rendar: That'll be why it's not automatically brought up then :)
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• 2729[18:32:26] <rendar> ok thanks
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• 2733[18:35:27] <Tenkawa> yay machine completely fixed
• 2734[18:35:44] <Tenkawa> uefi glitch and all
• 2735[18:36:03] <Tenkawa> just took a lot of patiece
• 2736[18:36:34] <Tenkawa> er patience
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• 2757[18:49:08] <debron> ok, ill try booting with the iso file there in the usb stick
• 2758[18:49:18] <debron> jelly: i bet 50 euro that it wont work
• 2759[18:49:25] <debron> (but i cant pay if im wrong)
• 2760[18:49:31] <debron> just one way bet
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• 2763[18:49:42] <greycat> make sure you wrote the image directly onto the device, NOT into a FAT file system on the device
• 2764[18:49:49] <debron> :o
• 2765[18:49:53] <debron> hah
• 2766[18:50:00] <debron> then thats why i never get that working
• 2767[18:50:09] <mateothegreat> what are we betting on? get me in on the action!
• 2768[18:50:11] <debron> i just created a fat FS on it
• 2769[18:50:16] <debron> and wrote the iso inside that partition
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• 2771[18:50:33] <greycat> the installer image contains the partition table and everything -- it has to be written directly to the raw device
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• 2773[18:50:49] <debron> so what do i do with the FS now?
• 2774[18:50:50] <greycat> most people use dd for this, but you can also use cp
• 2775[18:50:53] <debron> delete the fs?
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• 2777[18:51:06] <greycat> make sure it is NOT mounted, then just copy the image to the device
• 2778[18:51:21] <debron> but do i leave the FAT partition there?
• 2779[18:51:36] <greycat> copying the image will destroy it
• 2780[18:51:44] <debron> aaah
• 2781[18:51:45] <debron> thanks
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• 2786[18:53:51] <rant> debron: you write the ISO to the disk directly not put the file on the fs.. i.e. dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdc or whatever the device name is
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• 2788[18:54:20] <annadane> but do triple check if and of is correct if you use dd
• 2789[18:54:28] <debron> sudo cp /home/me/Downloads/debian-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent /dev/sdb
• 2790[18:54:35] <debron> that should be right, right?
• 2791[18:54:39] <greycat> yes
• 2792[18:54:54] <greycat> err, wait, not the .torrent
• 2793[18:54:54] <rant> um no
• 2794[18:54:59] <debron> LOL
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• 2796[18:55:04] <debron> i thought it was too fast
• 2797[18:55:06] <debron> thats why
• 2798[18:55:09] <debron> sorry
• 2799[18:55:18] <rant> greycat: cp can raw write?
• 2800[18:55:37] <greycat> Yes. You can use "cp foo.iso /dev/sdc" and it will work.
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• 2802[18:55:44] <rant> hmm.. cool.. thats news to me
• 2803[18:56:09] <greycat> The "raw write" is done by the kernel, not by the tools.
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• 2806[18:56:43] <rant> yeah I guess I just still have a lot of windows mindset even after all these years on linux
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• 2809[18:57:24] <debron> processing
• 2810[18:57:31] <greycat> The main reason dd is traditionally used for this is because dd lets you specify the block size (buffer size). Which was important in the old days.
• 2811[18:57:35] <debron> thanks
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• 2825[19:03:25] <debron> ok everything ready
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• 2827[19:03:28] <debron> wish me luck
• 2828[19:03:35] <debron> see u in short itme
• 2829[19:03:37] <debron> time*
• 2830[19:03:53] <garries> is this an acceptable readinbg speed for my system? replaced-url
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• 2849[19:12:59] <rant> garries: read speeds depend on a great many factors from overall use of the bus, the media itself, etc.. and as for whats "acceptable" thats more a personal judgement
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• 2869[19:21:50] <garries> rant: sadly thats a ssd that reads such values on my system. funny :/
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• 2873[19:23:42] <rant> garries: yes and reads are usually faster than writes so thats actually pretty low I'd guess though I never used an ssd I'm just basing that on the typical 6G bandwidth of sata
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• 2881[19:27:47] <rant> hmm he left.. I was gonna show him just how bad that was
• 2882[19:28:21] <rant> cause this system which is using a 2.5in sata hdd is faster than that :P
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• 2886[19:29:28] <Meteoroid> what is the recommanded way of using the /srv/ folder for a production webserver? Should I have a non-priviliged user in a special group with permissions to modify /srv/webroot ?
• 2887[19:29:46] <Meteoroid> will be using nginx, uwsgi, django
• 2888[19:30:16] <mutante> non-privileged users can have their own "public_html" in their home directory if you enable it in Apache
• 2889[19:30:21] <mutante> if that's what you want
• 2890[19:30:40] <greycat> Permissions would depend on the nature of each directory. Which ones are supposed to be read-only? Which ones are supposed to be writable, by whom?
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• 2892[19:30:42] <mutante> eh, you didn't say Apache, nevermind
• 2893[19:30:54] <greycat> nginx can also use ~/public_html/ if you set it up
• 2894[19:31:08] <greycat> but I don't think he's talking about home pages here
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• 2897[19:31:46] <mutante> yea.. just .. if i parse it literally then i think "non-privileged means they are not allowed to change global sites
• 2898[19:32:17] <greycat> My rule of thumb would be: by default, make EVERYTHING owned by root and 644/755. Only change that on a case by case basis.
• 2899[19:32:18] <Meteoroid> i just meant a normal user account (not root) but with sudo installed
• 2900[19:32:39] <greycat> Are you asking how to WORK ON the content? Not how to STORE the content?
• 2901[19:32:49] <Meteoroid> well both!
• 2902[19:32:59] <mutante> if by sudo you mean "sudo with ALL ALL" then it's just like they are root anyways
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• 2904[19:33:22] <Meteoroid> if i understood correctly srv is the conventional place to store the webcontent
• 2905[19:33:24] <greycat> I thought the question was how to set permissions on web content files, not how to configure sudoers.
• 2906[19:33:26] <mutante> or you can limit it to some selected commands that can be run as root
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• 2908[19:33:53] <greycat> Meteoroid: no, on Debian the convention location for web content is /var/replaced-url
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• 2910[19:34:00] <greycat> conventional*
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• 2913[19:35:11] <mutante> fwiw, even Filesystem Hierarchy Standard says ""The methodology used to name subdirectories of /srv is unspecified as thereis currently no consensus on how this should be done.""
• 2914[19:35:19] <Meteoroid> but but... fsh convention said it would be /srv ! and debian 8 sets up /srv by itself when bing installed!
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• 2916[19:35:56] <Meteoroid> my head...
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• 2919[19:36:23] <mutante> i guess the argument is over whether "site-specific data which is served by this system" includes document root contents
• 2920[19:36:27] <Meteoroid> i am just trying to do things by the conventions layout before me... I am trying to be nice lol
• 2921[19:36:35] <mutante> seems to me it does
• 2922[19:37:15] <mutante> Meteoroid: i think for the permission part of the question it doesn't matter which of the pathes you use
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• 2924[19:37:55] <Meteoroid> well, i noticed the common user does not have permissions to write to /srv
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• 2927[19:38:43] <mutante> Meteoroid: you can make a group called "webmasters" or whatever, then let that group have write access to it.. then add people to the group
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• 2930[19:39:05] <mutante> imho that's better than opening it up to all users
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• 2932[19:39:33] <mutante> or maybe add people to existing replaced-url
• 2933[19:39:48] <Meteoroid> yes that is where I had landed by now. But what I am missing is some document or person to tell me how it should be done. I dont want to end up with permission issues or security issues
• 2934[19:40:28] <Meteoroid> mutante, there more I try to be not forwned upon, the more people start frowning upon the next thing I suggest. Linux people are odd.
• 2935[19:40:42] <Meteoroid> there is always someone frowning upon
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• 2937[19:41:02] <mutante> Meteoroid: replaced-url
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• 2940[19:41:20] <mutante> same situation with 2 users
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• 2950[19:47:38] <debron> hello
• 2951[19:47:42] <debron> I am under debian :P
• 2952[19:48:02] <debron> (i say this to jelly and graycat), hello is to everyoone
• 2953[19:48:16] <debron> So, the firmware image worked, but not during the installation
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• 2955[19:48:33] <debron> i mean, usb network card werent recognized then
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• 2958[19:49:23] <debron> and the Intel UHD 630 graphics cards are not recognized by default, at least not the resolutions i should have
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• 2974[19:54:27] <debron> jelly: are you around?
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• 2978[19:56:06] <rant> if you have a question related to debian support you should probably ask it.. you've typed the last 7 consecutive lines with nothing that'd trigger any of us to help with anything
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• 2982[19:58:28] <debron> Ok rant
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• 2984[19:58:50] <debron> was trying to follow a previous chat, but you are right, sorry
• 2985[19:59:47] <debron> Just installed debian 9.4 stretch on a new pc with 8th generation Intel processor, with integrated graphics on it (so no g.card installed, just the CPU one) which is Intel UHD 630
• 2986[19:59:53] <rant> yeah that works sometimes.. but its not really a good preactice to rely on
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• 2989[20:00:52] <debron> My problem right now is that the only resolution i can achieve connected to my tv trough HDMI is, the only resolution i can get is 1024x768
• 2990[20:01:15] <debron> In a ubuntu installation i had earlier, i fixed this by installing oibaf drivers, from his ppa
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• 2992[20:01:34] <debron> even Intel link to his site, so it looks trusty
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• 2994[20:01:45] <greycat> !listkeys oibaf
• 2995[20:01:46] <dpkg> Factoid search of 'oibaf' by key returned no results.
• 2996[20:01:52] <greycat> nobody here seems to know what "oibaf" is
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• 2998[20:02:28] <debron> you know the site 01.org?
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• 3000[20:02:58] <rant> I know its fabio spelled backwards :P
• 3001[20:03:03] <debron> :P
• 3002[20:03:17] <rant> offhand sounds like an edid related issue to me
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• 3007[20:04:46] <debron> well this is the driver i was talking about: replaced-url
• 3008[20:04:55] <debron> but its ubuntu stuff..
• 3009[20:05:16] <debron> ok thats why
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• 3011[20:05:49] <debron> well, that driver did it to improve my system quite a lot
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• 3013[20:06:05] <debron> well, my graphics at least
• 3014[20:06:35] <debron> at least to achieve better resolution than this 1024x768
• 3015[20:07:18] <debron> My display right now is not being recognized
• 3016[20:07:30] <debron> not even the brand, its a philips TV, appears as Unknown
• 3017[20:07:53] <debron> connected trough HDMI
• 3018[20:08:02] <debron> what is wrong then?
• 3019[20:09:20] <greycat> I believe you were planning to upgrade to buster. Did you do that, or did the plan change?
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• 3021[20:09:47] <debron> for now I am trying to see if its possible to get proper display in stretch
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• 3023[20:09:55] <debron> if not , Im moving to buster
• 3024[20:10:05] <debron> but I am afraid that this problem will be exactly the same in buster
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• 3026[20:10:27] <debron> the procesor its an i3 8100 , its too new, and the TV its a crap...
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• 3030[20:10:38] <debron> that doesnt send real information throud edid
• 3031[20:10:44] <debron> so... I dont know
• 3032[20:11:02] <greycat> Unfortunately I don't either. I've never had to mess around with half-working display devices.
• 3033[20:11:23] <debron> what if its the driver?
• 3034[20:11:37] <debron> I dont know... maybe you dont want to listen this
• 3035[20:11:55] <debron> but with the oibaf drivers, tv brand was recognized, and allow me to put hd resolution
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• 3037[20:12:58] <greycat> It's not that we "don't want to listen to this", it's just that we literally have no idea what an "oibaf driver" is.
• 3038[20:13:16] <debron> ok
• 3039[20:13:37] <debron> it's some controller improvement done in the intel graphics for linux
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• 3041[20:13:55] <greycat> So it's included in a later Linux kernel? Or it's a DKMS module...?
• 3042[20:14:13] <debron> Im trying to understand it in the 01.org site
• 3043[20:14:15] <debron> give me a second
• 3044[20:14:27] <debron> Linux Kernel - 4.16
• 3045[20:14:59] <greycat> Do you have an actual link to the page you are reading?
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• 3060[20:17:29] <debron> Im back
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• 3062[20:18:44] <rant> greycat: the linke was provided above to the driver on launchpad.net
• 3063[20:18:46] <debron> In the 01.org website, they have a driver stack for Q1 of 2018, seems to have been working in coffee lake procesors
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• 3065[20:19:11] <rant> oh, this is a different site
• 3066[20:19:24] <debron> yeah, oibaf driver its different
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• 3069[20:19:35] <debron> but from 01.org links to oibaf ppa
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• 3071[20:19:47] <greycat> Is oibaf a *person*?
• 3072[20:19:55] <debron> replaced-url
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• 3074[20:20:02] <debron> I guess greycat
• 3075[20:20:02] <debron> not sure
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• 3081[20:21:20] <debron> under supported hardware at the bottom, there is the processor i own, the coffee lake
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• 3086[20:22:24] <debron> Well, in that site there is a download for linux 4.16 kernel..
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• 3088[20:23:15] <greycat> and a dozen more things, and no clear recipe for what to *do*
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• 3090[20:23:37] <debron> exactly :(
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• 3092[20:23:55] <greycat> so how in the hell did you get from that page to "an oibaf PPA for ubuntu" or whatever it was
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• 3094[20:24:18] <debron> I swear yesterday saw somewhere in 01.org site a link to oibaf
• 3095[20:24:25] <debron> give me one minute xD
• 3096[20:24:27] <greycat> Anyway, there is also an #intel-gfx channel that may be better suited to this.
• 3097[20:24:28] <debron> I am not crazy
• 3098[20:24:45] <debron> already tried there greycat
• 3099[20:24:55] <debron> anyway, I am going to try again
• 3100[20:25:04] <debron> anyway, its about graphic controller of debian
• 3101[20:25:08] <debron> im not offtopic at all
• 3102[20:25:10] <debron> i think
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• 3104[20:25:49] <greycat> I'm not saying you're offtopic. Just that nobody here seems to have the specialized knowledge you seek.
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• 3115[20:30:52] <debron> sorry greycat , I am just really tired
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• 3118[20:31:04] <debron> I have been since yesterday on that channel too
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• 3120[20:31:12] <debron> and its not a big help, tbh
• 3121[20:31:20] <debron> anyway, i joined there now again and asked
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• 3123[20:31:34] <debron> and they just recommend me to change operating system ;D
• 3124[20:31:45] <debron> at least, distribution
• 3125[20:31:47] <debron> to sid
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• 3127[20:32:01] <greycat> ,kernels
• 3128[20:32:02] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); buster: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); stretch-backports: 4.15.0-0.bpo.2-686 (4.15.11-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
• 3129[20:32:03] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
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• 3132[20:32:28] <debron> I will try something
• 3133[20:32:32] <debron> there was some kind of solution
• 3134[20:32:44] <debron> adding into grub config one line...
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• 3136[20:32:58] <debron> let me look for it, ill ask before doing nothing here
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• 3140[20:33:52] <debron> sudo vi /etc/default/grub or use any other editor. Find GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line and add i915.alpha_support=1
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• 3145[20:35:07] <greycat> remember to run update-grub after editing that file
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• 3149[20:37:02] <debron> yeah, gonna reboot
• 3150[20:37:10] <debron> ill tell you if worked
• 3151[20:37:11] <oerheks> i915.alpha_support=1 is not needed with kernel 4.15 and up ..
• 3152[20:37:20] <greycat> he's on stretch's kernel right now
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• 3162[20:39:45] <debron> it doesnt seems to be working
• 3163[20:39:56] <debron> still cant change resolution
• 3164[20:40:05] <greycat> Well, all signs seem to point to "try buster next".
• 3165[20:41:04] <debron> omg i want to cry
• 3166[20:41:06] <debron> xD
• 3167[20:41:38] <greycat> Oh god.
• 3168[20:41:40] <greycat> !coffee lake
• 3169[20:41:40] * dpkg decants a fine brew of organic Peruvian for lake, courtesy of greycat
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• 3171[20:41:53] <greycat> Collision with an action factoid....
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• 3175[20:44:22] <debron> what if its the crappy tv im using, and driver has nothing to do? how to find out that?
• 3176[20:44:42] <mutante> temporarily obtain another tv?
• 3177[20:44:42] <debron> or a mixture of both things...
• 3178[20:44:50] <greycat> you would find that out by trying a different monitor
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• 3180[20:45:23] <debron> uhm... i think i know a way
• 3181[20:45:26] <mutante> some cities have places to rent computer hardware
• 3182[20:45:39] <debron> but has to be later
• 3183[20:45:45] <debron> now got to leave
• 3184[20:46:09] <debron> and iit takes to move my computer to the roof XDD
• 3185[20:46:20] <debron> i believe there is a giant tv
• 3186[20:46:33] <debron> way better than this one , newer at least
• 3187[20:46:54] <mutante> first i thought the "solution" is now to throw the computer off the roof :)
• 3188[20:47:02] <debron> hahahha
• 3189[20:47:22] <debron> actually, im regreting a lil bit on buying this fcking coffee lake
• 3190[20:47:29] <debron> but maybe i just have to wait few months
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• 3192[20:48:16] <debron> ok see you guys
• 3193[20:48:19] <debron> thanks for the help
• 3194[20:48:38] <debron> tonight will be hard for me again, lets see if i can get something good
• 3195[20:48:41] <debron> :)
• 3196[20:48:43] <debron> see you
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• 3338[21:53:29] <Agiofws> Can someone tell me why the net install fails to install on an older version of Debian.; it's as though it's finding the old version and preserving it is this true;
• 3339[21:54:14] <Agiofws> Maybe it's grub that takes over or something like that?
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• 3343[21:54:35] <caffe`> How old are you talking? Which release?
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• 3346[21:55:55] <tpanarch1st> hi, i'm trying to set up the event scheduler in mysql and I have added SET GLOBAL event_scheduler=1; but this is apparently an "unknown variable"
• 3347[21:56:06] <tpanarch1st> running debian 9
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• 3351[21:56:31] <tpanarch1st> Server version: 10.1.26-MariaDB-0+deb9u1 - Debian 9.1
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• 3356[22:00:08] <Agiofws> It's Debian 7 and old grub is Debian 8 but I'm trying to install Debian 9 with a net install CD. But all seems fine when I reboot after installing it still loads old grub and old Debian in Dev/sdb but I've selected to install stretch on sda1 and grub on sda1 what's happening I've tried twice
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• 3361[22:03:01] <caffe`> Agiofws: You want to install the bootloader to the raw device (/dev/sda), not the partition (/dev/sda1)
• 3362[22:03:26] <Agiofws> And if I recall the net install needs a very clean drive to install else for some stupid reason it keeps the old Debian version even if you install stretch on top of the old version
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• 3366[22:04:58] <caffe`> No, it has no special requirement for a 'clean drive'
• 3367[22:05:09] <Agiofws> Caffe' k I think I did that I don't remember if grub installer specifies Dev sda or sfa1
• 3368[22:05:52] <caffe`> It offers both options, usually.
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• 3371[22:07:02] <Agiofws> Do SSD drives have any issues with the mbr ?
• 3372[22:07:13] <caffe`> If you install to a partition, then you aren't going to overwrite the MBR
• 3373[22:07:21] <caffe`> which you probably want to do.
• 3374[22:07:31] <caffe`> No, no special issues with SSDs
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• 3377[22:08:23] <caffe`> so either boot in rescue mode and re-install GRUB to /dev/sda, or start the installation over and choose /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 when you get to the step of installing GRUB
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• 3379[22:08:48] <Agiofws> Are you sure grub asks to install on sda or sda1?
• 3380[22:08:53] <caffe`> Positive
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• 3385[22:09:30] <caffe`> It's the second or third-to-last step in the installation process
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• 3388[22:10:11] <zq> yo homies
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• 3390[22:10:38] <zq> what's the modern way to execute 32-bit bins on a 64-bit debian? ia32-libs isn't in my package list
• 3391[22:10:40] <Agiofws> I know it's one of the last steps but I'm not sure if it gave me an option maybe I'd have to specify it manually...
• 3392[22:10:53] <zq> pretty sure that ia32s have been deprecated
• 3393[22:11:16] <caffe`> Agiofws: it does give the option, and the default is usually a raw device node rather than a partition
• 3394[22:11:31] <greycat> !multiarch
• 3395[22:11:31] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See replaced-url
• 3396[22:11:38] <Agiofws> How do you boot rescue mode from net install CD?
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• 3398[22:12:09] <caffe`> Agiofws: It should be one of the boot options when you boot the disc
• 3399[22:12:24] <Agiofws> Ok thanks
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• 3401[22:13:18] <zq> greycat: but how does adding an arch to dpkg immediately allow a 32-bit bin to be run
• 3402[22:13:34] <zq> ok i rtfm
• 3403[22:13:36] <greycat> Read replaced-url
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• 3407[22:14:43] <greycat> Typically if you have a 32-bit binary you want to run, you do an ldd on it to see what libs it needs, then figure out the package name for each lib, and install it with :i386 appended to the pkg name.
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• 3409[22:15:00] <greycat> Figuring out the package name is the second hardest part.
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• 3412[22:15:14] <greycat> Figuring out that the lib you need is actually not in the release of Debian you're on is the hard part.
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• 3414[22:15:47] <greycat> Then you get to guess whether you should try an old package from snapshot, and maybe manually move the lib from /usr/lib into the new place, or just borrow the lib from an RHEL system, or what.
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• 3459[22:35:00] <Guest3> will you guys ever update chromium to its latest version? or will it stay? ......
• 3460[22:35:09] <greycat> ,v chromium
• 3461[22:35:10] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; buster: 62.0.3202.89-1; stretch-proposed-updates: 63.0.3239.84-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 64.0.3282.119-1~deb9u1; sid: 66.0.3359.26-2
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• 3464[22:35:50] <Guest3> still 63, there is 66.
• 3465[22:36:01] <greycat> It says stretch-security: 64...
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• 3467[22:36:15] <Guest3> the latest is 66
• 3468[22:36:24] <greycat> *shrug*
• 3469[22:36:48] <Guest3> and soon 67
• 3470[22:37:02] <annadane> the general rule for stable is that packages don't update, it's the point of stability
• 3471[22:37:09] <annadane> there are some exceptions but they are exceptions
• 3472[22:37:12] <rant> the latest bodies are April 13, 2018 but i'm gettin by with this 1983 model
• 3473[22:37:15] <annadane> i'm not sure how chromium works with LTS
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• 3475[22:37:46] <Guest3> annadane, yes, but debian has a exception for firefox, firefox-esr and chromium.
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• 3478[22:38:26] <annadane> yeah... i'm not familiar with chromium so i don't know when its current LTS goes EOL
• 3479[22:38:33] <annadane> though i'm all in favour of abolishing acronyms
• 3480[22:39:57] <Guest3> "Chromium - while built upon the Webkit codebase - is a leaf package, which will be kept up-to-date by rebuilding the current Chromium releases for stable. Firefox and Thunderbird will also be kept up-to-date by rebuilding the current ESR releases for stable."
• 3481[22:40:00] <Guest3> replaced-url
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• 3483[22:40:47] <Guest3> if debian doesn't care about it, i should consider using a different distro
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• 3485[22:41:11] <zq> greycat: how would ldd know to handle elf32 though
• 3486[22:41:21] <[itchyjunk]> hey i had a little question. my laptop suddenly stopped connecting to wifi. i tried right clicking the little 2 computer in gui top part , it says "Enable wifi " but cant check the box. thats as far as i got
• 3487[22:41:23] <greycat> ldd is just a shell script
• 3488[22:41:32] <zq> so it knows?
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• 3490[22:41:44] <zq> it's claiming that my 32-bit bin has no runtime deps
• 3491[22:41:52] <annadane> i'm sure it cares, it's basically one of the two browsers
• 3492[22:41:52] <greycat> you can read /usr/bin/ldd and see what it does
• 3493[22:41:54] <[itchyjunk]> i checked the os and its debianist 4.9 debian 4.9
• 3494[22:41:57] <greycat> I'm content to believe it it magic.
• 3495[22:42:22] <zq> my bin still doesn't execute, though
• 3496[22:42:38] <greycat> zq: what does "file mybin" say?
• 3497[22:42:39] <zq> no deps ergo all deps satisfied yet "-bash: ./bin: No such file or dir"
• 3498[22:42:50] <greycat> Is it a SCRIPT?
• 3499[22:42:57] <zq> "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped"
• 3500[22:43:00] <zq> no
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• 3502[22:43:12] <greycat> and you're sure /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exists?
• 3503[22:43:20] <zq> oh right
• 3504[22:43:27] <rant> [itchyjunk]: usually if the "enable wifi" is greyed out its because there is no wifi device available i.e. the hw switch is off or driver is unloaded
• 3505[22:43:55] <greycat> make sure libc6:i386 is installed, for that part
• 3506[22:44:06] <zq> silly me
• 3507[22:44:35] <[itchyjunk]> rant: but it had wifi just 2 days ago, if that makes a difference
• 3508[22:44:50] <zq> okay, it's libc6:i386, inferring from dpkg -S on the amd64 one
• 3509[22:44:56] <[itchyjunk]> i'm hopeing it's something i can fix without needing internet? :s
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• 3512[22:45:41] <rant> [itchyjunk]: it does not.. does the system have a switch to turn the wifi off? did you check to see if the driver/firmware are loaded? What sort of wifi hw do you have? USB? PCI?
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• 3514[22:46:11] <[itchyjunk]> i haven't checked any of those, where should i start?
• 3515[22:46:15] <r3muxd> is ppc64 BE still maintained?
• 3516[22:46:17] <[itchyjunk]> all of it in that order? haha
• 3517[22:46:44] <zq> greycat: thanks
• 3518[22:46:46] <rant> [itchyjunk]: I haven't a clue.. if you tell me what sort of hardware you got maybe I could have an idea
• 3519[22:46:47] <zq> it werks
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• 3521[22:47:54] <[itchyjunk]> it says Compaq compaq 8510p
• 3522[22:48:21] <rant> [itchyjunk]: if you're too inexperienced to answer these questions you need to do dmesg > dmesg.log then goto paste.debian.net and upload that file dmesg.log
• 3523[22:48:21] <[itchyjunk]> HP service tag on the back
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• 3525[22:49:12] <rant> [itchyjunk]: and then of course paste the url to that paste back here so we can figure out what we're dealing with
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• 3527[22:49:52] <copec> Is the "Debian SMTP CA" packaged somewhere so that security.debian.org works with apt-transport-https
• 3528[22:50:20] <copec> that is "deb replaced-url
• 3529[22:50:22] <greycat> why would you want apt to use https?
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• 3535[22:51:12] <copec> I have this conversation with my coworkers, but they insist to protect privacy
• 3536[22:51:17] <rant> the packages are already digitally signed
• 3537[22:51:32] <hyperlumic> copec: Tell them they're wrong and move on to a more productive conversation.
• 3538[22:51:48] <greycat> What "privacy"?
• 3539[22:51:55] <copec> The NSA wants to know what security updates you are downloading
• 3540[22:52:12] <rant> yes in IT you have to know how and when to tell people they're idiots and sometimes it involves making crap up when they don't get it
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• 3542[22:52:14] <hyperlumic> What's that sound? Like hysterical laughter... Oh, it's me, I'm sorry.
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• 3544[22:53:02] <copec> I'm with you
• 3545[22:53:04] <hyperlumic> copec: Snark aside, that's nonsensical. The NSA already knows what security updates you're downloading, they can see what security updates are on the server just like the world can.
• 3546[22:53:07] <rant> in this case I would consider contacting the autorities about involentary commitment to a mental institution
• 3547[22:53:15] <greycat> dpkg, excuse =~ s/html/asp/
• 3548[22:53:15] <dpkg> OK, greycat
• 3549[22:53:17] <greycat> !excuse
• 3550[22:53:17] <dpkg> it has been said that excuse is replaced-url
• 3551[22:53:29] <hyperlumic> copec: Seriously, tell them they're being idiots and just move on. Don't cater to this.
• 3552[22:53:42] <caffe`> itchyjunk: You need to install firmware-iwlwifi to use the card in that laptop. Connect via ethernet cable and install that package.
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• 3564[22:54:50] <rant> caffe`: kudos on the background info.. but the user said it worked 2 days ago and there are any number of other possible causes that cannot be deduced without further information most of which would be in the kernel buffer which I'd already requested and havent gotten
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• 3569[22:55:52] <annadane> copec, replaced-url
• 3570[22:56:05] <hyperlumic> copec: Having worked with the NSA in the past, I can tell you that one of two cases is true: 1. The NSA doesn't care about you and doesn't even know you exist. You're not on their radar. 2. The NSA is paying attention to you, and you're already basically screwed. Pulling your Debian updates via TLS isn't going to mitigate against THE archetypal nation-state adversary.
• 3571[22:56:24] <[itchyjunk]> sorry, was changing music :P
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• 3573[22:57:26] <annadane> this is off-topic as hell but my own personal feeling is that technology has gotten to the point where a myriad other entities other than the NSA can watch/listen to/whatever what you're doing
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• 3575[22:57:36] <rant> hyperlumic: and 3) you're probably mentally ill
• 3576[22:57:42] <copec> I understand the implications. I'm not actually the one that manages this server group, the configuration management changes all the URLs to https.
• 3577[22:58:03] <copec> I have had this discussion several times with that admin :-)
• 3578[22:58:06] <annadane> the point of what snowden wanted to do is introduce legal reform
• 3579[22:58:38] <[itchyjunk]> wait how do i accomplish the uploading paste in the laptop that can't connect to the internet? :S
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• 3586[22:59:37] <hyperlumic> copec: Then he's breaking things. End of story. He's wrong and needs to stop.
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• 3590[23:00:58] <rant> copec: even ftp urls?
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• 3592[23:01:51] <copec> just apt urls beginning when apt-transport-https became generally available
• 3593[23:01:54] <greycat> dpkg, apt https is <reply>replaced-url
• 3594[23:01:56] <dpkg> greycat: okay
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• 3596[23:03:01] <annadane> this becomes even more true with repro-builds
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• 3598[23:04:28] <annadane> IIRC though there's some tor addresses for mirrors if you're *really* that paranoid
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• 3600[23:04:54] <Guest3> there are also regional ones. my internet provider has its own mirror for it customers, haha!
• 3601[23:05:01] <zmitya> hi gents
• 3602[23:05:11] <rant> yeah well when the concern is security.debian.org, while I can think of lots of rube methods, I wouldnt recommend it for security.d.o
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• 3604[23:05:24] <greycat> In my opinion (nothing more) then only legit excuse for wanting an https source is because your workplace/govt has a stupid restrictive firewall that blocks everything, but https slides around it because (as previously indicated) the firewall is stupid.
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• 3606[23:05:46] <Guest3> and the funny thing is, my regional provider (where im a customer of) doesnt has any speed limit for its own routing ... :O
• 3607[23:05:49] <zmitya> I got a new videocard. I did use nvidia driver. Now my X does not start... how can I refresh/update my Xorg config ?
• 3608[23:05:54] <zmitya> I am using stretch
• 3609[23:06:15] <zmitya> the new card is an NVIDIA card as well...
• 3610[23:06:18] <annadane> you used nvidia driver via apt install nvidia-driver?
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• 3612[23:06:26] <zmitya> annadane: yes
• 3613[23:06:29] <greycat> zmitya: if there is an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, try renaming it so it isn't used; if that doesn't work, read the logs and stuff
• 3614[23:06:40] <Guest3> greycat, https is not only firewall or so, it also prevents "bad" dns fakes etc
• 3615[23:06:52] <greycat> Guest3: the package signing takes care of that
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• 3617[23:07:02] <annadane> as usual, other people providing better answers than me on irc chans
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• 3623[23:08:17] <Guest3> dns servers which have manipulated entries, by a MITM attack for example, usually doesnt has a valid certificate for 99,9% for all the faked domains. if apt is that intelligent to check the validity of https, it should block it.
• 3624[23:09:07] <copec> no matter how you get the package, its integrity is cryptographically ensured before being installed
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• 3628[23:10:11] <hyperlumic> Guest3: Why are we talking about certificates and DNS in the same sentence?
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• 3631[23:11:19] <Guest3> because replaced-url
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• 3634[23:11:37] <Guest3> *lets encrypt
• 3635[23:11:56] <copec> That is a nice URL annadane
• 3636[23:11:59] <jimm> greycat, so a nonstupid firewall would block http -and- https?
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• 3640[23:12:32] <hyperlumic> Guest3: You seem to lack full understanding of what you're talking about.
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• 3642[23:12:34] <greycat> I'm just happy that my stupid workplace firewall can be worked around in this way.
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• 3644[23:12:48] <greycat> Not that I need it for apt. That's not blocked. But plenty of web sites and individual pages are blocked.
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• 3656[23:16:54] <zmitya> greycat, and all, here is my Xorg.0.log replaced-url
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• 3660[23:18:56] <greycat> zmitya: I'm leaving, but for others to help you, paste the output of "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" so we know which GPU you've got
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• 3662[23:19:10] <zmitya> ok, thanks
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• 3666[23:20:33] <annadane> now who will entertain us? :(
• 3667[23:20:49] <zmitya> so guys, here is my new nvidia card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [10de:1b82] (rev a1)
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• 3669[23:21:33] <zmitya> how can I "rescan" for the new video card ? long time ago there was the nvidia-cfongig, but now that is deprecated...
• 3670[23:22:15] <zmitya> *nvidia-xconfig
• 3671[23:23:08] <copec> hyperlumic Does the NSA take that information about which security updates we downloaded and visualize it in VRML?
• 3672[23:23:38] <hyperlumic> copec: They truly - TRULY - do not care about what security updates you download.
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• 3674[23:23:44] <annadane> it probably does, it really is a bunch of early 20's doing things because they can, as well as any other IT company
• 3675[23:23:55] <copec> but...but...VRML!
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• 3679[23:29:52] <copec> You guys suck. Who doesn't enjoy a good VRML reference?
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• 3686[23:33:03] <zmitya> haha, nvidia 1070 Ti is not supported by 375.82.. 1070 is, 1080 is, 1080 Ti is, but mine is not :)
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• 3692[23:36:01] <armin> is there an easy way to explicitly add all packages that an "apt autoremove" would remove?
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• 3695[23:38:05] <annadane> armin, sorry, not sure i understand the question
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• 3697[23:39:30] <Guest3> replaced-url
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• 3700[23:41:08] <Guest3> i think i have to leave debian then, sadly
• 3701[23:41:44] <copec> #debian?
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• 3706[23:42:23] <Guest3> copec, a other distro
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