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22 [00:13:04] <jcb2016> at0m: you around? im still having issues
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23 [00:13:45] <at0m> jcb2016: i'm not all that familiar
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25 [00:14:01] <jcb2016> oh ok
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36 [00:16:58] <rhizome> pulseaudio is going to be the death of
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39 [00:18:01] <fling> What is the proper way to get xombrero
like controls in iceweasel?
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43 [00:19:06] <rhizome> what's xombrero
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47 [00:19:21] <foobiebletch> Debian rules!
48 [00:19:44] <rhizome> and you don't have to use iceweasel
anymore, regular firefox is a-ok
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51 [00:21:58] <t3st3r> rhizome> appears to be some
"simple" webkit-based browser.
52 [00:22:42] <t3st3r> and speaking for myself regular firefox
is NOT ok for a while. If I remember debian de-bastardizes it a bit,
but is still quite a troublesome.
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64 [00:32:39] <rhizome> depends on what you mean by
"troublesome"
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66 [00:33:10] <rhizome>
replaced-url
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68 [00:33:27] <rhizome> better:
replaced-url
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90 [00:47:06] <fling> rhizome: an xxxterm fork
91 [00:47:21] <fling> rhizome: how ok is it?
92 [00:47:22] <rhizome> sexxxy
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94 [00:47:33] <rhizome> what, firefox? it's firefox.
95 [00:47:44] <fling> sounds bad :P
96 [00:47:56] <rhizome> a matter of taste, i suppose
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103 [00:52:11] <t3st3r> <rhizome> depends on what you mean
by "troublesome" <- misbehaving malicious programs
living their own lives, serving questionable goals of someone else.
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105 [00:52:54] <t3st3r> Both chromium and firefox conduct plenty
of unrequested and often unwanted or even actively harmful activity.
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107 [00:53:41] <rhizome> hey lynx is cool too
108 [00:53:46] <rhizome> whatever you're into
109 [00:53:59] <rhizome> i was just responding to
"iceweasel," which hasn't been a thing for awhile.
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122 [01:02:43] <Old_Dog> whatever browser i use, I make Startpage
my startpage and search engine.
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129 [01:04:57] <Old_Dog> now I can go search for a bandersnath,
and not worry about being flooded with ads for bandersnaths
immediately afterward.
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132 [01:05:38] <fling> rhizome: should not I use iceweasel?
133 [01:06:29] <rhizome> it doesn't matter, but you
don't have to. i guess i'm mostly surprised it still gets
updates.
134 [01:06:31] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
135 [01:07:14] <rhizome> ta da
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137 [01:09:05] <rwp> ,v iceweasel
138 [01:09:06] <judd> Package: iceweasel on amd64 -- wheezy:
38.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 45.9.0esr-1;
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1;
wheezy-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1;
stretch: 52.9.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.9.0esr-1~deb9u1;
sid: 60.3.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch: 60.5.0esr-1~deb9u1;
stretch-proposed-updates: 60.5.1esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security:
139 [01:09:07] <judd> 60.5.1esr-1~deb9u1
140 [01:09:26] <jmcnaught> iceweasel is just a transition package
to firefox-esr now
141 [01:09:38] <rwp> ,v firefox-esr
142 [01:09:39] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 --
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1;
wheezy-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1;
jessie-security: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 60.4.0esr-1; stretch:
60.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.5.1esr-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 60.5.1esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 60.5.1esr-1
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145 [01:10:29] <rwp> "This is a transitional package, it can
be safely removed." Depends: firefox-esr
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152 [01:14:59] <fling> So should I start switching from iceweasel
to firefox?
153 [01:15:12] <fling> But what about controls? This was my
initial questions ;P
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155 [01:17:06] <jmcnaught> if you're still on iceweasel
you're very far behind, as for controls I would look for an
add-on. You probably need to update to use addons.mozilla.org though
156 [01:19:20] <fling> jmcnaught: will firefox be able to reuse
iceweasel profiles?
157 [01:19:27] <fling> Do I need to move files around?
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159 [01:20:33] <rhizome> i don't htink i had to recreate my
profile, but back it up anyway.
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161 [01:20:44] <rhizome> no other file movements no
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166 [01:21:15] <rhizome> only pulseaudio requires you to shuffle
your configuration every reboot
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168 [01:22:06] <fling> rhizome: what???
169 [01:22:29] <rhizome> i don't know what "what?"
means in a textual medium
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176 [01:26:40] <fling> rhizome: is something special about
pulseaudio restarts with firefox"
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187 [01:35:43] <fling> jmcnaught: I'm looking for controls
addons but I can't find a thing
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193 [01:38:40] <ksk> I know there are vim-bindings around ;)
194 [01:40:13] <fling> ksk: they are for firefox 56
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197 [01:42:31] <ksk> uh okay. Have to admit I stopped using FF a
while ago..
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199 [01:42:57] <t3st3r> Old_Dog> Firefox and Chromium conduct
plenty of unrequested activity. Using sniffer or devtools could be
so insightful..
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201 [01:43:17] <fling> ksk: I've not used vimperator
202 [01:43:27] <fling> xombrero and xxxterm are outdated too
203 [01:43:27] <ksk> thats the one iirc ;)
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205 [01:44:06] <fling> t3st3r: tell me more please
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213 [01:48:24] <t3st3r> fling> what exactly? And I'm not
100% sure it fits #debian. Maybe #debian-offtopic is better for
this? (I'm not sure)
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215 [01:48:45] <Unit193> fling: Since you mention xombrero,
replaced-url
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224 [01:56:29] <DarwinElf> why is Debian's Angband package
over four years out-of-date?
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226 [01:57:38] <fling> Unit193: looks good but does it support
xombrero like control? :P
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238 [02:05:59] <Unit193> fling: Not sure yet, I haven't used
it. I was looking to see how easy it'd be to package and if it
had the specific xombrero features I want (aliases, keypress toggle
of proxy and js, etc.)
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245 [02:10:55] <fling> Unit193: ping me with your findings
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253 [02:16:33] <hamersaw> any reason to forgo updating to buster
until the full freeze? this will be my first debian upgrade, not
sure about the particulars.
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294 [02:48:34] <velix> Does man have an environment variable?
295 [02:48:37] <velix> oops
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297 [02:48:43] <velix> Does man have an environment variable for
manpath?
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300 [02:58:11] <ChmEarl> velix, manpath -g
301 [02:58:34] <velix> ChmEarl: Thanks ;)
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303 [02:59:20] <velix> ChmEarl: Actually, I want to add a local
man path (non priviliged user). I hope, I can figure it out now
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310 [03:02:52] <velix> is this possible at all?
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314 [03:04:03] <velix> got it working.
315 [03:04:04] <velix> Thanks a lot
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325 [03:10:06] <mezan> Hi, Is there any google drive client for
linux? free and support two-way sync
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328 [03:11:25] <hexa-> mezan: via gnome-online-accounts for
example
329 [03:12:11] <mezan> hexa-: I'm using i3wm I didn't
check those gui things. Thanks if it work it would be hassle free
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348 [03:21:00] <incognito> you can use rclone and entr for an
interesting script
349 [03:21:02] <incognito>
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350 [03:21:30] <incognito> i made a nextcloud one based off of
this tutorial
351 [03:21:39] <incognito> but i deleted it a while back on
accident :P
352 [03:22:48] <incognito> the example listed above only syncs
when you make changes to your client code, but you can easily modify
the script to have a loop that syncs every 10 seconds or something
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359 [03:24:54] <mezan> incognito: I'm familar with entr and
it's amazing (using it for my latex :D). I'm also using
one liner command by rclone. The problem is rclone doesn't
support two-way sync as far as I can understand. It's basically
a simple push/pull and this make it quite messy since you should
make sure everything is newer in the source (than the destination)
and then push/pull...
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361 [03:25:52] <mezan> The entr part make it quite automatic but
my problem is about two-way sync. I want the client finds out which
file is newer and at least warn or give a conflict or somthing.
Otherwise using these tools (esp in teamdrive) is quite dangerous
362 [03:27:42] <incognito> ya that makes sense. have you tried
grive2 by any change then?
363 [03:27:50] <incognito>
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364 [03:28:05] <incognito> /s/change/chance
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366 [03:28:30] <incognito> seems to be pretty actively worked on
and stuff
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369 [03:30:13] <mezan> incognito: ha, this seems quite cool.
370 [03:30:17] <mezan> Thanks a lot
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427 [04:22:19] <iaj> hi folks :)
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429 [04:23:12] <iaj> i got a little question, hope I am right
here.. i have a bash script that runs a SQL command with mysql
database and does an '... INTO OUTFILE /home/iaj/foo.csv'
export of the query
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433 [04:24:09] <iaj> however I always get Can't create/write
to file '/home/iaj/sql_exports/foo.csv' (Errcode: 13
"Permission denied") .. but the folder has 777 permission
already
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437 [04:29:25] <rant> anyone have an idea why all my samba shares
say 5.6GB free? (in caja) and it doesn't change.. all of them
have over 1TB available in df output.. idk what the deal is.
438 [04:30:18] <rant> seems rather arbitrary to say 5.6GB free
when one disk has 2TB, another has 2.7TB and the one with the least
free space has over 600GB free
439 [04:30:31] <rant> yet says same thing on all them
440 [04:31:07] <rant> 5.6GB is about whats free on / not on the
volumes mounted to the share locations
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443 [04:35:21] <mason> iaj: Read the last two lines you posted
carefully.
444 [04:37:09] <iaj> mason: hmmm.. i did :) but to no avail :(
445 [04:37:48] <mason> iaj: You note two distinctly different
paths.
446 [04:38:07] <rant> and also dont specify if the file exists
already
447 [04:38:22] <mason> iaj: Either you shouldn't give a
fully-qualified path because it's assuming sql_exports, or
you're giving it the wrong fully-qualified path.
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449 [04:38:55] <iaj> mason: aaah ok yeah im sorry, actually those
paths are the same.. i just tried to keep iiit more simple
450 [04:39:01] <iaj> normally it is WITH sql_exports
451 [04:39:15] <mason> Also, any solution requiring 0777 for
permissions should be reconsidered. Use group permissions at best,
or man setfacl(1) and friends.
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454 [04:41:48] <iaj> mason: hm.. yeah... i thought so.. thats why
I tried to add mysql user to my "iaj" group but also no
success
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456 [04:41:55] <iaj> gonna take a look into setfacl
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526 [06:01:33] <milkt> i'm trying to install debian with
debian-9,6.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso installer. i tried manual lvm/luks
encryption but it didn't encrypted luks container when
installation is done. and i'm tryinig to install now with
pre-configured partitions but can't find how i can open luks
container debian installer.
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529 [06:01:56] <milkt> how i can open luks container inside
debian installer*
530 [06:03:06] <milkt> what i want to do is something similar
with "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM"
in debian installer menu, but only part of disk, not entire
531 [06:03:31] <beavis> there is either guided or manual
532 [06:03:41] <beavis> the choice is yours
533 [06:03:50] <milkt> there is only 3 guided option, and all
uses entire disk
534 [06:04:02] <beavis> so go with manual
535 [06:04:02] <taylorbyte> go manual ftw
536 [06:04:15] <milkt> yeah and i having problem with manual
configuration so i'm asking help
537 [06:05:22] <beavis> you need /boot, a luks volume and lvm
container in it
538 [06:05:23] <taylorbyte> milkt i have some unofficial
documentation i have been forming and some very handy notes on lvm
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539 [06:05:35] <beavis> if yo uuse uefi you need an efi partition
as well
540 [06:06:01] <milkt> i configured boot partition and other
fine, all done but luks wasn't encrypted
541 [06:06:40] <taylorbyte> sorry i gave the wrong link
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542 [06:06:59] <milkt> i created partition (physical volume for
encryption) in debian installer menu, selected encryption method
"device-mapper (dm-crypt)" with aes-256-xts-plain64 and
passphrase
543 [06:07:29] <taylorbyte> milkt my setup is pretty much the
same i think. i have lvm and each partition is encrypted e.g. root
and home
544 [06:07:30] <milkt> but it didn't give me entering
passphrase dialog and etc
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548 [06:09:19] <taylorbyte> oh and heres my lvm notes
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549 [06:09:27] <milkt> taylorbyte, i couldn't connect to
your link. browser says "The connection was reset"
550 [06:09:43] <taylorbyte> oh sorry add :81 port
551 [06:09:51] <taylorbyte>
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554 [06:10:04] <taylorbyte> so dodgey atm but its good info i
assure you
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556 [06:10:22] <beavis> so the morning car crusade to work begins
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559 [06:10:51] <taylorbyte> i spend many days compiling this
documentation and i have refrence links at the bottom if you want to
look at some things in more detail
560 [06:11:13] <milkt> taylorbyte, thanks for useful link, but
the problem is i know how to configure luks with cryptsetup
manually, but now i don't know how to mount them in debian
installer
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562 [06:12:13] <milkt> i made boot partition, lvm container, luks
container inside lvm wihth archlinux live usb
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566 [06:12:34] <taylorbyte> i dont use gui but if you want to
mount it just use the command line in another terminal or something
like mount /dev/mapper/something /mnt/something
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569 [06:13:03] <milkt> i don't use gui either
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571 [06:13:16] <taylorbyte> milkt so did you cryptsetup open the
luks already?
572 [06:13:18] <milkt> i mean i'm in debian installer menu
now
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574 [06:13:33] <taylorbyte> i dont even use that lol
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576 [06:13:43] <tjt263> hey, can I download files from
packages.debian.org directly with a web browser or something? I just
want to pinch a .ttf real quick
577 [06:13:45] <taylorbyte> i debootstap an install from a
working computer
578 [06:14:01] <milkt> so is it better not using debian
installer?
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580 [06:14:39] <tjt263> yep, in this case
581 [06:14:41] <taylorbyte> if you want an uber stup then better
doing a debootstap from the commandline
582 [06:14:42] <milkt> i opened luks container normally with arch
live usb. did pvcreate vgcreate lvcreate mkvs.ext4
583 [06:15:00] <milkt> s/mkvs/mkfs/
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585 [06:15:17] <tjt263> Oh sorry, guess tgat wasn't for me
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589 [06:18:07] <taylorbyte> milkt i ran archlinux before goind
back to debian for stability in updates. and i actually debootsraped
from my arch install you can install debian from that arch USB if
you want just install debootstrap
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591 [06:19:52] <milkt> do you mean debian base system? i
haven't used debootstrap and not familiar with it. currently
looking at wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
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670 [07:35:44] <jcb2016> can i reinstall debian without touching
my home dir?
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676 [07:37:23] <nix64bit> is it good practice to change the
permissions of the /opt directory to myself if I am the only user on
the computer?
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678 [07:37:54] <SerajewelKS> jcb2016: depends what you mean by
"touching" but generally, yes, there are various ways of
accomplishing this
679 [07:38:05] <SerajewelKS> jcb2016: whatever you do, take a
backup first
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683 [07:39:39] <jcb2016> SerajewelKS: i don't have anything
important on the home dir. i just wanted to know if its possible
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687 [07:41:50] <jcb2016> SerajewelKS: will the installer ask me
not to touch the root or creting things?
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698 [07:48:24] <jcb2016> ok wish me luck
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741 [08:28:03] <oda> so, firefox crashes every time I try to open
the 'save page' dialogue, with Gtk-WARNING **: Could not
load a pixbuf from
/org/gtk/libgtk/theme/Adwaita/assets/check-symbolic.svg.
742 [08:28:24] <oda> also suddenly no icons show up anywhere
743 [08:28:31] <oda> and everything is broken
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745 [08:29:11] <oda> god fucking help me, I thought debian was
supposed to be the distro that doesn't break. I'm running
stable
746 [08:30:02] <oda> only references to that error I can find are
posts from 2009 on the arch forum
747 [08:30:35] <oda> literally uninstalled and reinstalled the
whole fucking x server and everything depending on it
748 [08:30:38] <oda> still broke
749 [08:30:48] <tarzeau> try avoiding firefox? tried chromium
browser yet?
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751 [08:30:52] <oda> deleted gtk preferences
752 [08:30:59] <oda> and nothing
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754 [08:31:07] <tarzeau> debian doesn't write that mozilla
software
755 [08:31:33] <tarzeau> reinstalling software hardly ever is the
solution, because it doesn't get rid of user config files
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757 [08:31:50] <oda> it's not firefox, it's something
to do with pixbuf or gdk or something
758 [08:31:57] <oda> hence the icons disappearing in everything
759 [08:32:09] <tarzeau> yeah try getting rid of your gtk
configuration (good luck finding the relevant)
760 [08:32:24] <tarzeau> did you theme anything?
761 [08:33:12] <oda> nope, I was working on my awesomewm theme at
the time, but just in case that was the problem I'm just using
the default awesomewm theme while I'm chasing this bullshit
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764 [08:36:05] <tarzeau> is that theme gtk?
765 [08:36:19] <tarzeau> try create a new user, and then check if
it happens with that user
766 [08:36:39] <tarzeau> if it's that delete all .files of
that existing users and you should all be set :)
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795 [08:55:01] <oda> nah it's just the configuration for my
window manager, unrelated to this bug
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798 [08:55:54] <oda> anyways fuck this shti I'm too drunk
and I wanted to switch my root fs to btrfs so I'm just gonna
reinstall
799 [08:56:37] <oda> just pissed that I spent 6 years on a
supposedly 'less stable' distro, swithc to debian stable,
and immediately have mystery bullshit errors'
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802 [08:58:47] <tarzeau> haha
803 [08:58:56] <tarzeau> i'd open another bottle of fine
wodka
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809 [09:03:05] <no_gravity> Hello! When one side of a pipe keeps
writing to stdout but the other side never reads it, where does all
that stuff go?
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811 [09:03:17] <oda> Nah I'm all about the shochu. Lovely
cheap ass 25%ABV, 2literes for about 12USD
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858 [09:30:37] <oda> Man, as much as I'm pissed off about
reinstalling, this installer is truly a pleasure to behold
859 [09:30:47] <oda> Works like hot damn
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867 [09:37:08] <at0m> oda: regardless of how drukned you are,
this network aims to be family-friendly. please choose your wording
accordingly.
868 [09:37:26] <oda> Sorry
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870 [09:38:12] <oda> Do you get a lot of kids on this channel lol
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872 [09:38:43] <at0m> we don't do age checks, just like we
don't do breathalyzer.
873 [09:38:58] <diogenes_> in other channels they say: children
and their grandmothers might be watching the channel
874 [09:39:01] <at0m> on the internet, nobody knows you're a
dog.
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876 [09:40:40] <oda> Ayyyy, and we're back up. Took a while
to install because of my lovely 3g internet speed lol
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887 [09:49:22] <ejr> i want to dl a package from the repo, but
the package only, without installing it. i know i can use apt-get -d
install packagename, but when the package is already installed on my
system, that does not work. is there any way to still get just the
package (without using the browser to download it from a mirror)?
888 [09:50:01] <at0m> ejr: maybe have a look in
/var/cache/apt/archives/
889 [09:50:15] <ejr> at0m: alright, thanks, will do
890 [09:50:48] <at0m> doesn't hurt to rm the .deb's
from there once in a while :>
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893 [09:51:46] <oda> Y p, looks like I'm good to go, thanks
for the help guy who tried to help tarzeau
894 [09:52:20] <oda> I guess this gives me a chance to polish the
ansible role for my workstation lol
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954 [10:32:41] <agio> looking at the current stretch kernel (in
the apt repos) - its 4.9.0-8-amd64, apparently the mainstream kernel
shipped the spectre and meltdown fixes around 4.15, does that mean
the current stretch kernel (from apt repo's) does not contain
the meltdown+spectre fixes?
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964 [10:35:41] <ntz> anavel:
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965 [10:36:14] <ntz> ^^ so assuming that Stretch 4.9.x contains
these fixes
966 [10:36:42] <ntz> agio: ^^ for you ... sorry anavel for
h-light, damned aautocompletition
967 [10:37:06] <ntz> agio: you could explicitely check it against
installed kernel
replaced-url
968 [10:37:40] <agio> cool, so the debian kernel team backported
the fixes into 4.9 ?
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970 [10:38:18] <ntz> agio: wiki says so :D ... but feel free to
ask over and over couple more times !! :D
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978 [10:42:22] <agio> ntz: thanks, the info you linked to has a
good explanation :)
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980 [10:43:35] <ntz> agio: after all, just test it via linked
script ;)
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982 [10:44:51] <agio> that script package is only available via
backports archive it seems - I don't have backports enabled
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985 [10:45:53] <agio> I guess its only one line in
/etc/apt/sources.list and aptitude update
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989 [10:49:41] <ntz> agio: you can download that pkg manualy and
dpkg -i that .... likely it will have no big dependencies ;)
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992 [10:52:16] <agio> yes, usually if there are
depends/recommends packages.debian.org tells us in a table below the
package name right? so Im guessing this has no dependencies at all
(simple shell script)
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1023 [11:13:48] <yuradoc> Hello. don't understand. it worked
before. i did use 'git pull' to retrive newest code. After
that I can't edit those files with editors installed.
1024 [11:14:01] <yuradoc> interesting that that relates to GUI
only. if i use terminal 'nano' it works
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1026 [11:14:19] <yuradoc> what's the error: "Error
opening file... Read only file system The file or disk may now be
truncated"
1027 [11:14:33] <yuradoc> it's MATE DE
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1042 [11:20:13] <NetTerminalGene> do you guys getting firefox
crash randomly when closing youtube video?
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1044 [11:22:27] <at0m> NetTerminalGene: start firefox from a
terminal, and paste the output somewhere?
1045 [11:22:50] <NetTerminalGene> at0m, it happens randomly
1046 [11:23:01] <NetTerminalGene> not so common
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1130 [12:19:48] <jim> g4yer82, you want something/
1131 [12:19:49] <jim> ?
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1137 [12:21:14] <jim> (so the rest of you knows, g4yer82 just ctcp
versioned me
1138 [12:21:20] <jim> )
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1143 [12:23:52] <humpled> is that bad?
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1193 [12:47:12] <colo-work> anyone on Debian Stretch using
chromium?
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1196 [12:48:48] <at0m> dpkg: tell colo-work about anyone
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1200 [12:49:49] <colo-work> my problem is that the fix for the
chromium "headless" mode regression that was pushed to
stable doesn't work for me. `chromium --headless` still crashes
upon start.
1201 [12:50:06] <colo-work> I already asked in here if someone was
able to observe the same problem, but that was too specific,
apparently
1202 [12:50:22] <colo-work> so now, I'm looking for chromium
users willing to try reproducing my problem
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1206 [12:52:39] <at0m> ,v chromium
1207 [12:52:40] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy:
37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1;
jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security:
57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 70.0.3538.110-1~deb9u1; sid:
72.0.3626.53-1; stretch-security: 72.0.3626.96-1~deb9u2; buster:
72.0.3626.109-1
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1209 [12:52:49] <at0m> colo-work: crashes for me, on buster:
replaced-url
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1212 [12:53:36] <colo-work> at0m, thanks.
1213 [12:53:41] <at0m> that's started from inside screen. if
i start from plain Konsole bash, it quits without any error
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1216 [12:54:52] <at0m> same from xterm as from konsole
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1244 [13:11:30] <EdePopede> at0m: did your screen session survive
a session restart or a reattachement? i had some sessions closing in
the past and using GUI programs from screen then needed some changes
in the environment.
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1247 [13:13:18] <at0m> EdePopede: the session survived just fine.
chromium didnt
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1253 [13:14:24] <EdePopede> at0m: no, i meant a restart of X in
the past. firefox won't start, chrom* may simply crash.
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1257 [13:15:05] <EdePopede> just because the problem seems to be
only with screen in your case.
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1266 [13:18:03] <at0m> i don't remember detaching and
re-attaching this session elsewhere. like, i do get issues running X
apps when screen session is started from another machine beforehand
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1276 [13:21:18] <EdePopede> i had to reassign some of the
variables (X cookie file and such). can't say about
intermachine sessions, but i guess it should work then too.
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1290 [13:27:09] <andre144k> hi all...
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1292 [13:28:10] <andre144k> i have the situation that "du
-sh" shows "97G" - and "du -bsh" shows
"135G"
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1294 [13:29:02] <andre144k> i think understand why, cause the
files do have holes, so they dont use the complete storage...
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1296 [13:30:21] <andre144k> but, what does it mean when i wld have
a 150G disk? do it mean i could store max +15G in other files, or
could i store max +53G in other files?
1297 [13:30:48] <andre144k> (ext4)
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1334 [13:48:59] <Richardo> any one knows how to add "at"
symbol in germen kbd under chrooted session
1335 [13:49:15] <Richardo> sytem debian 9 64bit laptop
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1337 [13:49:46] <ayekat> the keyboard layout shouldn't change
when entering a chroot, normally
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1339 [13:49:56] <mutante> copy/paste from
replaced-url
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1341 [13:51:00] <ayekat> it would seem that @ is AltGr+Q on the
german keyboard layout:
replaced-url
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1360 [14:01:29] <ksk> I can confirm that ;)
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1374 [14:07:07] <EdePopede> btw, how is this ibus thing
supposed to work? seems it (whatever that means exactly) was killed
recenty, in the settings dialog there is a hook to show an icon on
the system tray, but has no effect. the difference is eg, now i have
mdash(ndash?) on altgr-4 again like in the past, with that thing
running (the icon showing the current kbd layout) it is on
altgr-- (which now does nothing).
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1379 [14:14:37] <Richardo> yeah i know all my symbol work fine
ßüäö
1380 [14:14:50] <Richardo> but AltGr+q
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1382 [14:14:55] <Richardo> show me q
1383 [14:15:15] <Richardo> |
1384 [14:15:31] <Richardo> the altgr work fine
1385 [14:16:20] <Richardo> either the Euro sign didn't work
1386 [14:16:32] <Richardo> altgr + e
1387 [14:16:49] <Richardo> +
1388 [14:17:12] <FinalX> altgr+5 .. no? that's where
it's at on mine at least :P
1389 [14:17:14] <FinalX> €
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1395 [14:18:39] <Richardo> okey in miene e
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1397 [14:21:06] <ksk> Isnt there a way to use the keycode somehow
to get a special sign? used to work in java remote consoles some
time ago..
1398 [14:21:13] <ksk> alt + 0134 for a pipe iirc :X
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1402 [14:22:48] <andre144k> is there a way to find files which are
not owned by user "nobody" ?
1403 [14:23:08] <ayekat> find {path} -not -user nobody
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1406 [14:23:39] <ayekat> (plus additional flags if necessary, but
that's about the simplest I can think of)
1407 [14:24:19] * ayekat puts away the spoon
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1428 [14:33:11] <EdePopede> ksk: depends. on hexchat (it's a
gtk thing i guess) you can change the input method. works with
"Simple" only here. and no chance in the terminal.
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1430 [14:33:44] <EdePopede> Richardo: does *any* AltGR combination
give you a character? maybe it is used as 2nd alt key.
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1434 [14:36:33] <Richardo> yeah <>|
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1436 [14:36:43] <Richardo> just that button
1437 [14:37:16] <Richardo> the alt button it is a menu button
1438 [14:37:24] <Richardo> in hexchat
1439 [14:38:02] <EdePopede> could it be the chroot uses some other
(maybe incomplete/broken) layout?
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1441 [14:38:29] <Richardo> i fully chroot the system
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1443 [14:38:40] <Richardo> and i'm in full desktop
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1446 [14:39:04] <Richardo> maybe the issue with Xnest
1447 [14:39:31] <Richardo> but the sound work great and no problem
with graphic
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1451 [14:42:17] <Richardo> "
!"§$%&/#()=?`*'_:;-° " all symbol fine
just the € & @ & the "micro" sign
1452 [14:43:02] <Richardo> the "hiefen" too
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1458 [14:45:33] <EdePopede> what about tty? or terminal? i always
had different layouts on them
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1460 [14:47:45] <EdePopede> oh, not anymore it seems. at least
terminal seems to be the same as gui.
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1465 [14:48:48] <EdePopede> Richardo: what desktop do you use?
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1468 [14:49:21] <EdePopede> there are some switches which decide
what exactly would be used and how
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1473 [14:50:26] <uio> Hi - I'm trying to change the ugly
flame logo on xscreensaver, but can't figure out how to do it.
Any thoughts on how to do this? I can't stange that horrid
filame thing.
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1475 [14:51:56] <EdePopede> for xfce the ibus dialog has "use
system keyboard layout" - and(!) "share same input
method". and then the keyboard dialog: "use system
default" and some more
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1481 [14:52:53] <uio> Take a look in #flood for what I've
tried.
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1500 [15:04:18] <skylite> could someone tell me why is this
happening?
replaced-url
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1503 [15:06:08] <EdePopede> g4yer82, you're a cat?
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1505 [15:06:51] <xcm> skylite: forgot to do "w"?
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1507 [15:07:07] <xcm> (or am i confusing parted with something
else)
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1517 [15:10:17] <nevivurn> skylite: make sure to actual format the
partition with mkfs.*
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1519 [15:11:14] <skylite> nevivurn: im using parted not fdisk
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1525 [15:12:35] <skylite> sorry, I ment xcm
1526 [15:12:36] <EdePopede> the manpage looks as if `mkpart`
should create the fs
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1528 [15:12:48] <skylite> yes
1529 [15:12:50] <nevivurn> It doesn't, from what I've
seen.
1530 [15:12:53] <nevivurn> But eh
1531 [15:13:30] <frikinz> Why curious g4yer82?
[~g4yer82@208-238-024-217.ip-addr.vsenet.de] requested CTCP VERSION
from frikinz
1532 [15:13:38] <EdePopede> and i don't seem to have an info
page for it Oo
1533 [15:14:14] <xand> you need to use the zfs utils to create zfs
filesystems...
1534 [15:14:18] <xand> not sure that debian has them?
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1536 [15:14:45] <xcm> skylite: right, never mind that then
1537 [15:14:49] <skylite> xand: I know but I create one partition
for zfs
1538 [15:15:17] <nevivurn> ,v zfsutils-linux
1539 [15:15:18] <judd> Package: zfsutils-linux on amd64 --
jessie-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.9-5~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib:
0.6.5.9-5; jessie-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.7.6-1~bpo8+1;
stretch-backports/contrib: 0.7.12-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib:
0.7.12-2; sid/contrib: 0.7.12-2
1540 [15:15:27] <skylite> I want to add my disk serial number to
the partition label so when something goes wrong I know which is the
bad one
1541 [15:15:59] <skylite> so first I create a partition and then
do zpool create
1542 [15:16:53] <nevivurn> Does the partition type specified in
tools like parted matter at all, though? I don't think it
creates the filesystem for you, and not sure what kind of flags it
sets...
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1545 [15:17:25] <EdePopede> g4yer82: if you want to know
something, ask. if not, may i suppose you're trying to find
some outdated vulnerable clients you could hack?
1546 [15:18:07] <skylite> nevivurn: it does because if not, zfs
says: invalid vdev specification use '-f' to override the
following errors: /dev/disk/by-partlabel/WD-WCAZA5803456 contains a
filesystem of type 'ext4'
1547 [15:18:30] <EdePopede> nevivurn: you could open another shell
and after executing that command read the first blocks of the
partition to see if it actually did or not
1548 [15:19:12] <nevivurn> That's because that partition
already contains an ext4 partition, though?
1549 [15:19:25] <skylite> EdePopede: my pastebin already showes
that it did not, doesnt it?
replaced-url
1550 [15:19:44] <nevivurn> Will do the next time I'm doing
that, kinda interested.
1551 [15:19:45] <skylite> well I could zero out the disk first
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1554 [15:21:12] <EdePopede> skylite: did it create an ext4 instead
or simply did nothing?
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1557 [15:22:09] <nevivurn> Just force it, that warning's just
in place to prevent accidentally writing over some partition you
didn't mean to re-format.
1558 [15:22:36] <nevivurn> No need to wait for the disk to zero
out unless you need to zero it out.
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1560 [15:23:18] <skylite> I zerod out the partition table and same
problem :O
1561 [15:23:57] <skylite> I do mkpart WD-WCAZA5803456 zfs 1 99%
1562 [15:24:06] <skylite> then quit, come back, and it's ext4
1563 [15:24:20] <skylite> wtf
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1567 [15:25:00] <nevivurn> I am not too familiar with the
low-level intricacies of partitions and such, but the bytes in the
partition may still stay there and confuse tools unless you wipe the
actual disk data, not just the partition table.
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1569 [15:25:05] <nevivurn> Again, just -f it.
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1573 [15:26:19] <ksk> parted and the likes dont really care as far
as I know.
1574 [15:26:22] <skylite> but I did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdh
bs=512 count=2
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1579 [15:26:34] <skylite> that should wipe out the partition table
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1581 [15:27:33] <nevivurn> Yeah, but the filesystem headers (which
are in the partition, not the partition table, I'd assume) are
still around.
1582 [15:28:07] <FinalX> wipefs -a
1583 [15:28:10] <FinalX> on that disk
1584 [15:28:13] <skylite> okay
1585 [15:28:14] <nevivurn> ANd if you happened to create a
partition at the same position as the space previously occupied by
an ext4 patition, the ext4 headers and data would still be there
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1588 [15:29:02] <FinalX> plus you can't just say that the
partition table is 2 blocks of 512 bytes. most disks are 4096 sector
size nowadays (or higher), and it can easily be 34 blocks.
1589 [15:29:14] <FinalX> it's usually good enough to corrupt
it either way, but still :P
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1591 [15:29:41] <FinalX> can just fire up a partition tool and
create a new one to blank it out anyway, often better/easier.
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1593 [15:30:05] <nevivurn> Or, just let mkfs.zfs ignore the
existing data and just write over it.
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1595 [15:30:12] <FinalX> or that
1596 [15:30:26] <skylite> nop, same issue I did wipefs first
1597 [15:30:30] <FinalX> though you'd not use mkfs.zfs for
that :P
1598 [15:31:12] <FinalX> you create a pool, and the pool gets
datasets; datasets are already containing a filesystem once created
.. unless you create a volume.. each of those can have its own
fileystem
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1600 [15:31:40] <skylite> I know my problem here is just with
parted I guess
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1602 [15:32:02] <skylite> I just dont know why it switches back to
ext4
1603 [15:32:40] <FinalX> ZFS-on-Linux will, if you feed it a full
disk, create 2 partitions. 1 main data partition (numbered 1) of
type BF01, and one filler/padding (numbered 9) of type BF07
1604 [15:32:46] <FinalX> it doesn't
1605 [15:32:55] <FinalX> Linux Filesystem is default, that's
*not* ext2/3/4
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1607 [15:33:15] <FinalX> it's the type of partition and
doesn't say anything about the filesystem per se
1608 [15:33:23] <FinalX> you can still choose to format it with
XFS or whatever
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1610 [15:33:48] <FinalX> but if it's nice to know what kind
of partition it is, so that's why you can set types; if
you're going to use ZFS, set it to BF01
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1612 [15:34:23] <FinalX> in "fdisk" it's type 48,
usually
1613 [15:34:58] <FinalX> but you do NOT use mkpart/mkfs to create
filesystems with ZFS; you use zpool create to create a zfs pool
first, which automatically includes filesystems
1614 [15:35:15] <FinalX> ZFS is "all in one", it takes
over the job of what you'd normally do with
mdraid+lvm+ext4/xfs/whatever
1615 [15:35:44] <skylite> yes I always use zpool create
1616 [15:35:57] <skylite> but if the partition type is not zfs,
then zpool create complains
1617 [15:36:06] <skylite> but I'll use -f so it wont complain
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1619 [15:36:12] <FinalX> you can use gdisk to set it to BF01
1620 [15:36:17] <FinalX> or fdisk it to 48
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1622 [15:36:31] <FinalX> it will show as "Solaris /usr &
Apple ZFS"
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1624 [15:39:38] <skylite> FinalX: would you recommend raidz? or
raidz2?
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1626 [15:40:11] <FinalX> kinda depends on your wishes and needs;
though that goes kinda out of scope for this channel.. perhaps
continuing on #zfsonlinux would be better :)
1627 [15:40:36] <skylite> sure
1628 [15:40:40] <FinalX> personally I don't like raidz that
much, but a lot of people like it for the space/security trade-off
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1640 [15:48:12] <deadrom> hi
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1643 [15:49:27] <deadrom> how can I mount an iso on a remote box
with no samba or NFS client? can one.. redirect a device through an
ssh tunnel?
1644 [15:49:49] <xand> copy it there and mount -o loop
1645 [15:50:01] <deadrom> xand: copy is not an option
1646 [15:50:15] <deadrom> iso needs to stay with the local drive
1647 [15:50:36] <xand> mount it locally and use SSHFS
1648 [15:52:22] <greycat> sshfs mounts it over an SFTP connection,
so you can try that
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1654 [15:55:10] <deadrom> no sshfs on the remote machine.
1655 [15:55:16] <jelly> install it
1656 [15:55:59] <deadrom> hehe, that's the problem: machine
is only reachable via vpn, has no outside internert/replaced-url
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1658 [15:56:31] <greycat> sshfs is on the CLIENT. The remote
(server) only needs to be running a regular sshd.
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1660 [15:56:33] <bendem> so you need to mount a device remotely
without remote access?
1661 [15:56:42] <jelly> deadrom: if you can ssh into it, you can
also tunnel a connection to a http proxy and then you don't
need an iso at all
1662 [15:57:12] <jelly> and also you get internet access.
1663 [15:57:12] <bendem> if you can ssh, you can scp the iso
1664 [15:59:09] <jelly> deadrom: rough steps: bring up a http
proxy, say squid3 locally, on say port 3128. ssh -R
3128:localhost:3128 your-remote-machine. Then "export
http_proxy=replaced-url
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1690 [16:10:47] <deadrom> jelly: love it
1691 [16:10:57] <Richardo> how to open an onion without
tor-browser, with using a tor relay
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1696 [16:11:47] <Richardo> and firefox set it with the relay
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1703 [16:12:52] <n4dir>
replaced-url
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1707 [16:16:24] <Richardo> so with tor-arm it need to install
tor2web to visit an onion
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1710 [16:18:01] <n4dir> if so, then i completely misunderstood
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1732 [16:33:44] <Sami_> I am trying to install a gnome theme and
came across this
replaced-url
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1734 [16:34:16] <Sami_> does this mean I am supposed to install
libegl1-mesa-dev and libwayland-dev
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1781 [17:04:53] <wald0> no 486 nor 586 kernels on buster, only
686? hum.. so what is the oldest machine supported by Debian in
buster now ? I have also see an increase of RAM usage by default to
around 500MB for only X11 running
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1783 [17:05:52] <SerajewelKS> did you change architectures?
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1785 [17:05:58] <greycat> You'd have to ask #debian-next
about that. But even in stretch, some of those are unsupported.
1786 [17:06:02] <SerajewelKS> e.g. upgrade fro x86 to x64
1787 [17:06:06] <wald0> yes im on a 64bit default system checking
this
1788 [17:06:33] <SerajewelKS> 64-bit systems will generally use
more memory than 32-bit
1789 [17:06:54] <wald0> yeah so im looking a bit for what can be
offered in 32bit
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1792 [17:08:44] <wald0> wheezy 100 MB ram in X11, buster 500 MB
ram in X11 (x86_64 base), hum...
1793 [17:08:52] <greycat>
replaced-url
1794 [17:08:57] <greycat> The 32-bit PC support (known as the
Debian architecture i386) now no longer covers a plain i586
processor. The new baseline is the i686, although some i586
processors (e.g. the “AMD Geode”) will remain supported.
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1796 [17:09:34] <wald0> so I assume that there's no way to
still support these old machines easly
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1799 [17:09:47] <greycat>
replaced-url
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1802 [17:10:12] <greycat> comparing wheezy to buster (7 to 10) is
unfair
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1805 [17:11:19] <wald0> yeah, my actual machines still use wheezy
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1807 [17:11:55] <greycat> If it's a 586 that isn't an
AMD Geode, then jessie is the last version which supports it.
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1810 [17:13:05] <wald0> I see
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1829 [17:20:25] <humpled> mine is a pentium 2 is that out?
1830 [17:21:07] <greycat> Pentium II is a 686, which is supported.
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1832 [17:21:19] <jelly> humpled: that's the oldest
technically still supported with a 32bit kernel
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1835 [17:22:30] <jelly> the cpu needs PAE and SSE for 32bit
stretch kernel I think
1836 [17:22:31] <humpled> woot
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1838 [17:22:55] <jelly> but you're goit to have a hard time
running things with 256-512MB RAM
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1840 [17:23:03] <jelly> going* to have
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1842 [17:23:57] <jelly> graphical drivers (Xorg) in particular
suffer from bitrot and lose stable support for older GPUs with newer
versions
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1848 [17:25:19] <jelly> so if wheezy and ELTS is good enough for
you for internal use (web browsers not exposed to internet sites),
that might be the best option
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1850 [17:26:16] <greycat> Buying a new(ish) computer may be the
best option.
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1902 [17:51:34] <humpled> i should be okay according to this:
replaced-url
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1921 [17:59:43] <dsetchell> hello! For stretch and newer I see
that rc.local is depricated and I see a number of ways of getting it
back in place. I do need "run on startup" style scripts.
Is there a way to do that in a non-depricated way?
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1924 [18:00:24] <dsetchell> Meaning I'm not finding anywhere,
"this is how todo rc.local going forward"
1925 [18:00:34] <xand> dsetchell: @reboot cron job, systemd
service....
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1927 [18:00:45] <greycat> The "correct" way it to write
a one-shot systemd unit. But if rc.local works for you, just go
ahead and use it for now.
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1930 [18:01:28] <greycat> sorry, "oneshot" without the
hyphen
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1933 [18:02:11] <humpled> though i don't have SSE, don't
have X either so only using 93MB without buffers and caches
1934 [18:02:15] <jaggz> this ppa for "makehuman"
software doesn't have a release file.. how do I investigate or
handle this?
1935 [18:02:20] <dsetchell> xand: greycat: thanks! I'll look
into the oneshot.
1936 [18:02:23] <jaggz>
replaced-url
1937 [18:02:30] <jaggz> in the past it's worked with debian
fine
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1939 [18:03:08] <towo`> jaggz, ppa's are for ubuntu, not
debian
1940 [18:03:24] <towo`> jaggz, and ppa's are not a topic in a
debian channel
1941 [18:04:02] <jaggz> towo`, I thought it was an
apt-add-repository thing, used by debian
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1943 [18:04:25] <towo`> jaggz, again, debian does not have any ppa
1944 [18:04:31] <jaggz> interesting
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1949 [18:07:33] <jelly> jaggz: binaries built in PPA may or may
not work on Debian, there's ero guarantee either way. What we
know is they are built specifically for ubuntu releases and on
ubuntu build servers, not on debian or for debian
1950 [18:07:41] <jhutchins_wk> dsetchell: I believe there are docs
out there on how to enable rc.local, basically it's just that
the package that created the blank file isn't used any more.
1951 [18:08:07] <jaggz> jelly, thanks
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1953 [18:08:47] <jhutchins_wk> dsetchell: In fact,
systemd-rc-local-generator exists.
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1967 [18:11:17] <jhutchins_wk> dsetchell: You'll find plenty
of info if you search "systemd rc.local".
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1970 [18:12:16] <greycat> Support for /etc/rc.local is still in
stretch. If you create an /etc/rc.local file and make it executable
and give it a #!/bin/sh shebang, it will Just Work.
1971 [18:12:32] <greycat> The file isn't created by default
in new stetch installations, is the only difference from jessie.
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1974 [18:13:33] <dsetchell> jhutchins_wk: ^ totally saw some of
that :: was looking to prepare for the future. Looks like the
oneshot service will do the trick too. thank you!
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1978 [18:18:30] <jaggz> tx buds
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2018 [18:34:53] <Tenkawa> yay
2019 [18:35:20] <Tenkawa> I consolidated machines finally
2020 [18:35:39] <AlexNagy> running a virtual machine?
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2022 [18:35:55] <Tenkawa> no... bought one machine to rule them
all
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2025 [18:36:05] <AlexNagy> I guess that works too.
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2027 [18:36:22] <Tenkawa> I had a whole lot of physical boxes not
capable of doing what I wanted to do
2028 [18:36:44] <Tenkawa> including gaming
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2032 [18:38:27] <AlexNagy> I feel ya.
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2034 [18:38:48] <AlexNagy> I'm using an old Dell Precision
T3500 for gaming/streaming. It's....less than ideal.
2035 [18:39:02] <AlexNagy> Biggest bottleneck is the cpu, I think.
2036 [18:39:12] <Tenkawa> mine has been the gou's
2037 [18:39:16] <Tenkawa> er gpu
2038 [18:39:45] <Tenkawa> this one has a nvidia gtx with 6gb of
ram... I think I'll be ok
2039 [18:39:52] <AlexNagy> ah. Yeah, I'll be upgrading my gpu
soon, but first the RAM. Max it out to 24GB and then get a pair of
Quadro 5000's (the max the stock config can support)
2040 [18:39:55] <Tenkawa> (6b just for the gpu)
2041 [18:40:18] <AlexNagy> Nice, my current gpu only has 2GB
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2045 [18:40:32] <Tenkawa> this is a notebook too :)
2046 [18:40:37] <AlexNagy> dayum
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2048 [18:40:43] <AlexNagy> Not bad at all.
2049 [18:40:45] <Tenkawa> I dont want a desktop anymore
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2051 [18:41:08] <AlexNagy> really? I'll never be w/o a
desktop, especially for gaming. I do want to get a better lappy
though.
2052 [18:41:35] <Tenkawa> I'm never sitting at a desk
2053 [18:41:51] <AlexNagy> (:
2054 [18:41:59] <AlexNagy> I'm always at a desk, especially
at home.
2055 [18:42:02] <Tenkawa> even my racing wheel is mounted on a
table in front of me
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2057 [18:42:15] <Tenkawa> ahhh I'm never hardly at home
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2059 [18:42:52] <Tenkawa> that was my motivation.. i wanted
something I could truly keep mobile
2060 [18:43:03] <Tenkawa> now to the debian q...
2061 [18:43:06] <AlexNagy> cool beans and gg on achieving that.
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2063 [18:43:53] <Tenkawa> AlexNagy: I run debian on everything but
just want to check something before I do something stupid
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2067 [18:45:06] <Tenkawa> This box has a ssd + platter drive
setup... with intel's rapid start blah blah.. is there any
gotchas that anyone can think of I need to watch for?
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2080 [18:53:37] <Tenkawa> we'll see what the live usb stick
does
2081 [18:53:41] <Tenkawa> bbiaf
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2170 [19:36:35] <hanasaki> does debian support compressed kernel
modules for a custom build?
2171 [19:36:49] <hanasaki> had some issues when doing so
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2175 [19:38:05] <pagetelegram> So I wrote a program to batch PDF
to efax command arguments and I'm stuck converting the TIFF to
right size and format....the resulting file comes out garbled.
I'm using this efix -o tiffg3 -p 8.5x11 -r 196x196 file.tiff
>file.tif
2176 [19:39:52] <pagetelegram> I did get faxing with text with
TIFF letterhead working perfect. I'm just stuck on this last
bit and then I'm off to the races.
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2181 [19:43:56] <pagetelegram> If anyone interested in what I am
trying to do, I want to offer faxing services to NFP organizations
and working with Childhood Fractured to work out a solution for
sending a Press Release and Donor letters out to a list of companies
with a philanthropy department. This would be part of my Page
Telegram services, pagetelegram.com and just testing the waters with
these tools last couple months. Got a VOIP connection to do this t
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2186 [19:47:03] <Tenkawa> darn secure boot
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2189 [19:47:28] <Tenkawa> not ready to disable it quite yet and
potentially watch my windows install go goofy
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2191 [19:48:01] <pagetelegram> Anyhow if anyone knows or had
experiencing with efax and efix commands please feel free to message
my privately, I am going to jump in the shower now.
2192 [19:48:08] <SpeedyG> it was goofy when it was installed in
the first place, thats just windows' nature :P
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2195 [19:48:44] <Tenkawa> SpeedyG: windows is perfectly fine...
secureboot not so much
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2200 [19:51:17] <Tenkawa> good thing I dont have a monthly
bandwidth cap at home
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2202 [19:51:36] <Tenkawa> I have to dload 80gb when I get home for
one app
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2220 [19:59:58] <jhutchins_wk> hanasaki: Hey dude!
2221 [20:00:10] <jhutchins_wk> hanasaki: Do you know of a
distribution that definitely does support that?
2222 [20:00:31] <nyloc> Hi, I have a problem with my preseed file.
replaced-url
2223 [20:00:31] <nyloc> Whatever I write in the tasksel part it
always installs a complete system with X-Server and 1500 packages.
All I want is a minimal server with openssh server. Anyone seeing my
error?
2224 [20:00:31] <nyloc> One thing i noticed after doing a manual
install is that the debconf-get-selection --installer shows (d-i
tasksel/first multiselect SSH server, Standard-Systemwerkzeuge). Is
this maybe a language localization error?
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2226 [20:01:16] <jhutchins_wk> pagetelegram: You might try using
imagemagic to convert it.
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2235 [20:03:07] <Sleaker> nyloc: is this on stretch?
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2238 [20:03:18] <nyloc> Sleaker: Yes
2239 [20:03:33] <Sleaker> sec let me pull my preseed for a base
system
2240 [20:03:33] <nyloc> with the mini.iso booted via PXE
2241 [20:04:40] <Sleaker> nyloc: pretty sure your formatting is
wrong
2242 [20:04:41] <Sleaker> it should be:
2243 [20:04:42] <Sleaker> tasksel tasksel/first multiselect
standard, ssh-server
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2246 [20:04:48] <Sleaker> not d-i tasksel
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2248 [20:05:08] <Sleaker> unless mine's outdated.
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2250 [20:05:56] <Sleaker> if it's installing too much that
might just be standard itself.
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2253 [20:07:15] <nyloc> Sleaker, thanks I will check, maybe thats
my error
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2256 [20:08:21] <Sleaker> on my actual installed system I
don't have standard, just ssh-server + some other tasks, but
that's after I've modified the system in a late-command
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2262 [20:12:00] <nyloc> Sleaker: Thanks a lot, not sure how I
could miss this as I thought I copied from (replaced-url
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2264 [20:12:24] <Sleaker> pretty sure d-i doesn't keep the
preseed examples updated.
2265 [20:12:27] <Sleaker> I know for sure ubuntu doesn't
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2267 [20:13:06] <Sleaker> also this is in that file:
2268 [20:13:07] <Sleaker> ### Package selection
2269 [20:13:07] <Sleaker> #tasksel tasksel/first multiselect
standard, web-server, kde-desktop
2270 [20:13:12] <nyloc> Sleaker: Yeah but it's right in this
2271 [20:13:15] <nyloc> yes ;=
2272 [20:13:24] <Sleaker> yah, not sure how you ended up with d-i
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2274 [20:13:45] <Sleaker> oh so changing it worked?
2275 [20:13:55] <nyloc> So nut sure how I ended up with this but I
would have searched forever ;). Yeah it works fine now.
2276 [20:14:01] <Sleaker> kk cool
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2278 [20:14:23] <Sleaker> I'd suggest you look over some of
the other settings too to be sure, not averything is d-i prefix
2279 [20:14:31] <nyloc> No i only have to set my pxe files to
automatically start the auto label
2280 [20:15:00] <nyloc> /s/No/Now
2281 [20:15:06] <Sleaker> cool
2282 [20:15:14] <nyloc> Sleaker: Yeah I will recheck the whole
file.
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2285 [20:16:21] <pagetelegram> jhutchins, thank you. I will look
into that direction if imagemagic has options for g3 compression
with TIFFs.
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2287 [20:17:35] <mikadoZero> I have a desktop computer with Debian
on it. I want to play sound using some computer speakers but I only
get static if I turn the volume up. I can get it to play correctly
using a USB headset but I want to use the computer speakers. For
hardware I have two multimedia audio controllers: Intel AC'97
audio controller (rev 02) and Creative Labs [SB Live! Value]
EMU10k1X
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2296 [20:20:12] <krabador> g4yer82, what the fuck CTCP ????
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2299 [20:20:59] <greycat> He did it to me a few hours back. I
don't know what he's planning, but I'm not worried.
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2315 [20:30:54] <EdePopede> so we're at least five. and he
still doesn't explain what he's planing.
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2324 [20:35:49] <jcb2016> there a pdf format version of the
handbook?
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2326 [20:36:22] <pagetelegram> For Debian8 the handbook is free.
Forgot where at.
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2328 [20:36:58] <greycat> !handbook
2329 [20:36:58] <dpkg> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is
at
replaced-url
2330 [20:37:16] <pagetelegram> Come to thing of it I might search
for some books on faxing from the 90s lol.....hell not a lot online
other than man pages.
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2334 [20:40:44] <jcb2016> thanks greycat
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2342 [20:47:09] <Deihmos> i notice than some of my apps use a lot
less cpu on debian compared than ubuntu. any idea why that would be
?
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2344 [20:47:58] <greycat> Different version? Different settings?
Different video drivers?
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2348 [20:49:14] <Deihmos> exact same app
2349 [20:49:19] <Deihmos> same settings
2350 [20:49:33] <Deihmos> this app isn't using any video
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2353 [20:49:53] <Deihmos> different kernell i guess
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2355 [20:51:27] <BCMM> Deihmos: what about architecture? was one
32-bit and one 64-bit?
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2357 [20:51:40] <Deihmos> same architecture. 64bit
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2359 [20:52:19] <BCMM> also are you measuring cpu the same on both
machines? in some tools, 100% means one core fully utilised, on
others 100% means the whole cpu fully utilised. in some tools,
it's even configurable
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2362 [20:53:22] <Deihmos> same on both using top and htop
2363 [20:53:50] <Deihmos> it is no big deal. just found it
interesting. decided to just stick with ubuntu
2364 [20:53:53] <Deihmos> i mean debian
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2376 [20:57:47] <Deihmos> how can i check the backports for
updated apps?
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2379 [20:58:11] <Deihmos> how do you know what is available in
backports
2380 [20:58:17] <greycat> if you're already using it,
apt-cache show yourpkg, or apt-cache policy yourpkg
2381 [20:58:31] <greycat> or here in IRC, /msg judd v yourpkg
2382 [20:59:40] <Deihmos> cool thanks
2383 [21:01:08] <Deihmos> maybe debian just better at handling
these tasks
2384 [21:01:24] <Deihmos> ubuntu installs 1Gb of extra stuff.
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2386 [21:02:05] <bolt> or maybe ubuntu top has irix mode off by
default
2387 [21:02:13] <bolt> (shift+i)
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2389 [21:02:29] <Deihmos> i know about that. it is on by default
2390 [21:02:44] <bolt> hm. that would actually tilt it the other
way
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2392 [21:02:59] <Deihmos> on by default on debian also
2393 [21:03:25] <Deihmos> looked at it with it on and off.
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2407 [21:07:27] <BCMM> Deihmos: what sort of applications/tasks
are they?
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2409 [21:07:50] <BCMM> i mean if you're talking idle cpu
usage of GUI apps, it could even just be a theming difference
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2412 [21:08:11] <mikadoZero> I have tried to use alsamixer to
unmute everything and turn the volume up but I dot not get audio out
of my pluged in speakers.
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2414 [21:08:52] <Deihmos> hdhomrun recording service
2415 [21:08:56] <Deihmos> records tv channels
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2417 [21:09:08] <Deihmos> and streams tv to devices
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2419 [21:09:53] <Deihmos> there is no theme or gui.
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2427 [21:15:43] <jhutchins_wk> !alsa checklist
2428 [21:15:43] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio'
group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/
alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if
available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4)
speakers on? 5) does "aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any
installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also
<list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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2430 [21:16:12] <darsie> How do I resolve this nvidia-smi:i386
dependency conflict?
replaced-url
2431 [21:16:13] <jhutchins_wk> Deihmos: My guess would be
different flags/options selected at compile time.
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2436 [21:18:42] <darsie> Is it a bug that boinc-client-nvidia-cuda
depends on two conflicting packages? nvidia-smi{ab}
nvidia-smi:i386{ab}
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2439 [21:20:19] <greycat> ,depends boinc-client-nvidia-cuda
2440 [21:20:20] <judd> Package boinc-client-nvidia-cuda in
stretch/amd64 -- depends: boinc-client, libcuda1 | libcuda1-any |
libcuda-7.5-1 | libcuda-7.0-1 | libcuda-6.5-1 | libcuda-6.0-1 |
libcuda-5.5-1 | libcuda-5.0-1.
2441 [21:20:47] <greycat> Try narrowing it down to the *actual*
packages involved. I got bored after the first 3 or 4 checks did not
turn up either of the things you claimed.
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2443 [21:21:12] <darsie> did you see my pastebin?
2444 [21:21:54] <darsie> I'll try boinc-client-opencl
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2446 [21:23:36] <darsie> although that might not be for nvidia
cards: boinc-client-opencl - metapackage for AMD/ATI OpenCL-savvy
BOINC client and manager
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2448 [21:24:41] <darsie> idk how to narrow that down.
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2454 [21:26:25] <darsie> installing nvidia-smi/:i386 is dependency
hell.
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2458 [21:28:09] <darsie> installing boinc-client-opencl has a
similar issue.
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2460 [21:28:25] <darsie> CPU it is, then :(.
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2462 [21:28:36] <Tenkawa> heh even on a really good connection
waiting for 99gb t0 dload seems like forever
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2464 [21:28:44] <somiaj> darsie: have you provided all the info in
the bat factoid, naimly the policy you are using, and the policy of
each package listed?
2465 [21:28:47] <somiaj> !bat
2466 [21:28:47] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2471 [21:30:20] <darsie> no. Was that a rethorical question?
2472 [21:30:20] <somiaj> Also is this a stretch system in which
you are also maybe using nvidia drivers from stretch-backports?
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2475 [21:30:32] <somiaj> It was more a look at that info, it can
really help narrow things down.
2476 [21:30:40] <darsie> I'm not sure. I used the debian
method.
2477 [21:30:55] <greycat> You're not sure which version of
Debian you're using?
2478 [21:31:01] <somiaj> i.e. we prefer to have all that info in
the factoid in a pastebin to help see what the issue could be.
2479 [21:31:08] <darsie> I have stretch installed.
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2484 [21:31:18] <somiaj> darsie: and are you using the nvidia
drivers from stretch-backports by chance?
2485 [21:31:28] <somiaj> (or using any packages from
stretch-backports)
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2489 [21:31:50] <darsie> I'll try to find the instructions I
used and see if that says backports.
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2495 [21:32:16] <greycat> Instead of looking for weird old
documents that you may or may not have followed, how about just
seeing what version of the drivers is currently installed?
2496 [21:32:25] <somiaj> darsie: sharing us the apt policy info in
the bots factoid can help us see what you actually have on your
system.
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2499 [21:33:11] <darsie> I have deb
replaced-url
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2508 [21:34:25] <somiaj> my guess is you have a conflict between
packages in stretch-backports and stretch that you need to manually
track down and resolve. (Unfortunally due to pinning, things are not
always the smoothest when using stretch-backports package).
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2513 [21:35:07] <somiaj> you could also just try (though make sure
you want to do this and know what it does) add a -t
stretch-backports to your install line to let aptitude know it can
use packages from stretch-backports to resolve things (But I would
first share the apt policy stuff the bot told you to see if you have
any of those packages from stretch-backports installed on your
system first)
2514 [21:35:22] <darsie> dpkg -l *nvidia*:
replaced-url
2515 [21:35:22] <dpkg> ii *nvidia*:
replaced-url
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2518 [21:35:36] <somiaj> darsie: can we have the apt policy lines
asked for.
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2520 [21:36:48] <somiaj> hmm, wonder if it is an issue with the
cuda packages not working nicely with the legacy nvidia versions you
have.
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2522 [21:37:49] <somiaj> yea, that is probably it, there are
pcakages like nvidia-legacy-340xx-smi -- you need to make sure all
these packages match the legacy drivers you are using.
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2525 [21:38:04] <somiaj> so of course nvidia-smi won't
install, since you need to use the legacy version of that package.
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2527 [21:38:31] <somiaj> and it could be that this
boin-client-nvidia-cuda package is not compadable with the legacy
drivers.
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2530 [21:39:08] <darsie> There, everything in one nice, big
package :)
replaced-url
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2533 [21:40:02] <darsie> ok, I'll try the legacy packages ...
2534 [21:40:04] <somiaj> well you didn't provide all the info
the bot asked for, but anyways, I think the issue is the legacy
packages you are using not compadable with the package you want to
install.
2535 [21:40:29] <somiaj> I also notice you have a source foor
xenial/main there, that is a red flag to me, you don't want to
install packages made for ubuntu in debian.
2536 [21:40:39] <darsie> What did I forget?
2537 [21:40:41] <SerajewelKS> is there a way with patch to view
rejected hunks with --dry-run?
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2539 [21:40:57] <somiaj> 2. output from "apt-cache policy
pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the
problem
2540 [21:41:22] <SerajewelKS> --dry-run appears to suppress all
output, including reject files. which makes this mode pretty much
useless for me.
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2542 [21:41:34] <somiaj> you only listed one, but I don't
think it is needed, I think it is a conflict with the legacy drivers
and what you want may not be possible with legacy drviers.
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2544 [21:42:12] <somiaj> SerajewelKS: what command? dpkg
--dry-run? Though rejected hunks makes me think you are messing with
some source package and patches.
2545 [21:43:50] <darsie> somiaj: Looks like I used hte xenial line
to install signal (the private messenger). I guess it wasn't
available in debian.
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2549 [21:44:42] <greycat> SerajewelKS: copy the target directory
and run the patch in the copy and see what falls out?
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2551 [21:44:46] <somiaj> darsie: in general that is a good way to
get you into problems like you are experiencing now (due to shared
depends). Though unsure if it actually is the issue this time or not
(I still think it is due to legacy issues)
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2554 [21:45:24] <darsie> Yeah,
replaced-url
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2556 [21:45:45] <somiaj> there is lots of bad advise on the
internet. Here read this
2557 [21:45:47] <somiaj> !don't break debian
2558 [21:45:48] <dpkg> dont break debian is, like,
replaced-url
2559 [21:45:53] <darsie> How do I install signal properly?
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2561 [21:46:35] <somiaj> That link has some suggestions on how to
install software not available in the debian repo. Compile from
source is often the path I take.
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2563 [21:46:41] <darsie> dkpg has no idea about signal.
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2574 [21:50:14] <SerajewelKS> somiaj: patch
2575 [21:50:36] <SerajewelKS> greycat: that's the only thing
i can think of; sucks that i need to make an unnecessary copy,
though
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2577 [21:51:44] <greycat> It really sounds like you're trying
to hand-craft a source code management system, or an ansible-type
thing.
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2580 [21:56:05] <Tenkawa> well back to waiting for this download
to finish.. cheers all
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2591 [22:04:37] <SerajewelKS> greycat: applying vendor-supplied
patches
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2610 [22:13:09] <Deihmos> jhutchins_wk: it is the same file used
to run the app on Ubuntu and Debian. It is just 1 file.
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2617 [22:15:45] <jhutchins_wk> Deihmos: It may have the same name,
but does it have the same checksum?
2618 [22:15:59] <Deihmos> Exact same file.
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2663 [22:42:08] <Deihmos> Yes it is exactly the same.
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2666 [22:42:42] <Deihmos> It is the same file used across Linux
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2671 [22:45:33] <Deihmos> It is no big deal though. Settling on
using Debian
2672 [22:45:48] <Deihmos> Debian server Ubuntu desktop
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2686 [22:52:27] <darsie> To avoid breakind debian I wanted to
delete "deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
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2698 [22:53:07] <greycat> It still says xenial. Did you forget to
run apt-get update?
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2703 [22:53:26] <mawk> the package may have reinstalled the source
darsie
2704 [22:53:27] <mawk> some do that
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2706 [22:53:38] <darsie> greycat: I still have the xenial deb
line.
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2709 [22:53:53] <darsie> I just installed it with aptitude so I
might get a valid URL for the package.
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2722 [22:54:40] <darsie> Can you help me get a URL where I can
download it manually?
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2727 [22:55:03] <darsie> Or is there a special key
exchange/authentication with the repository?
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2736 [22:57:22] <darsie> are there options to aptitude so it
displays download URLs?
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2740 [23:00:10] <darsie> I couldn't find a source code for
signal-desktop.
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2743 [23:00:56] <darsie> ahh
replaced-url
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2751 [23:05:52] <jmcnaught> darsie: you can install it as a
flatpak:
replaced-url
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2754 [23:06:22] <darsie> jmcnaught: Is that an android package for
an android emulator?
2755 [23:06:35] <jmcnaught> no
2756 [23:07:09] <jmcnaught> flatpak is a desktop linux
distro-independent package system, there's a flatpak package in
stretch (and a newer one in backports)
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2763 [23:10:40] <darsie> idk how to compile
replaced-url
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2767 [23:11:59] <darsie> Could it be that
replaced-url
2768 [23:12:28] <darsie> pulling everyone else from the stretch
repository
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2770 [23:12:33] <darsie> everything*
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2772 [23:13:06] <darsie> I mean, it downloads just that from
there.
2773 [23:13:40] <darsie> Not sure if it installed something else
that didn't uninstall when I uninstalled signal.
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2777 [23:14:07] <jmcnaught> You can check your apt logs for when
you installed signal and see if it pulled anything else in
2778 [23:14:45] * darsie looks for apt logs ...
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2781 [23:15:35] <humpled> /var/log/apt ;)
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2783 [23:17:06] <darsie> yeah, thx.
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2785 [23:18:15] <darsie> There's a session with just Install:
signal-desktop:amd64 (1.15.5)
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2787 [23:18:37] <darsie> First occurence of signal
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2792 [23:20:18] <darsie> Does that make it look safe to install
signal from "deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
2793 [23:21:27] <darsie> I mean, it's not from the ubuntu
site.
2794 [23:21:52] <darsie> teh whole repository
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2796 [23:22:40] <jmcnaught> well there's always a risk using
a third-party repo and non-Debian packages, but it looks like
you've determined that only the single package you wanted gets
installed
2797 [23:22:53] <darsie> thx
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2800 [23:23:38] <darsie> do old apt logs get deleted?
2801 [23:23:38] <jmcnaught> personally I would install a flatpak
before using a package compiled for a different distro
2802 [23:23:41] <darsie> by default?
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2804 [23:24:18] <jmcnaught> they get rotated, the config for that
is in /etc/logrotate.d/apt
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2807 [23:24:52] <darsie> k. Rotate 12 monthly
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2809 [23:25:19] <darsie> When did I install this debian initially?
2810 [23:26:44] <darsie> I see /etc/bash_completion Mar 22 2014,
but I installed it after that.
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2820 [23:35:01] <darsie> Yeah, it's still complete.
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2830 [23:36:51] <darsie> Could the xenial signal package alone
mess up debian with its installation scripts or so?
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2832 [23:39:06] <jmcnaught> it's possible, those scripts run
as root
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2834 [23:39:27] <darsie>
replaced-url
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2849 [23:45:20] <knstn> People, where i can find wheezy 7.0 ISO on
debian site? I'm searching 20min now... or i could just be to
sleepy
2850 [23:45:46] <bleb> how would i configure man to look in
$HOME/man for man pages?
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2852 [23:46:52] <themill> !cd archive
2853 [23:46:52] <dpkg> A repository for CD images of older Debian
releases is at
replaced-url
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2857 [23:48:25] <themill> bleb: you can export MANPATH
2858 [23:48:42] *** Malinux- is now known as Malinux
2859 [23:49:09] <themill> (see man(1))
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2864 [23:51:21] <bleb> themill: yeah i tried that and no luck
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2866 [23:52:10] <bleb> ah never mind...
2867 [23:52:15] <bleb> i guess i only thought i tried it
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2873 [23:58:21] <f91w> I'm trying to recover my /var off a
corrupted ext4 /. The journal has a bad magic number, debugfs shows
it having no filetype/date/permissions/etc. No blocks in the /var
inode. How do I recover files?
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