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5 [00:02:43] <matu> thanks bernyrd
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7 [00:02:50] <hussar_> where is pip3's config file
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9 [00:02:59] <matu> i did not know that hid meant
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11 [00:03:22] <matu> so i supposed it would only works partially
by any chance
12 [00:03:51] <matu> i should start a blog to test these devices
on GNU/Linux
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14 [00:04:05] <matu> and write some reports
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16 [00:04:29] <matu> i rly think i will, we don't have this
kind of information available
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18 [00:04:36] <matu> easily
19 [00:04:39] <matu> thank you
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28 [00:13:58] <bernyrd> yeah if you can write about it, it will
be useful. probably no traffic for years but then someone somewhere
eventually searches a search engine and finds your report :)
29 [00:14:16] <bernyrd> lot of info I get from blogs that do not
receive much traffic.
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42 [00:25:37] <nt80> how can I list all non-free packets
installed on my debian installation?
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45 [00:27:38] <i_wdt> nt80: like this ‘dpkg-query -W
-f='${Section}\t${Package}\n' | grep ^non-free’
46 [00:28:35] <otyugh> hey. What would be the correct way to ask
systemd not to wait for any network-related service to delay the
start of a session ? I can see it's half of the boot time, and
I don't need the network being available right away.
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48 [00:30:39] <nt80> i_wdt, thanks, it returns empty output.
should it return empty for `... | grep ^main’ as well?
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52 [00:36:15] <ksk> otyugh: some units which start your desktop?
most likely tell systemd they want networking - most likely, there
is a reason for that
53 [00:36:57] <otyugh> ksk, there is, but they could be started
afterward
54 [00:37:16] <otyugh> Is there an option to say "launch in
the background, don't wait" ?
55 [00:37:19] <ksk> the maintainer of these packages seems to
have a different opinion.
56 [00:37:31] <ksk> you can edit the unit file in question, to
not depend on networking
57 [00:37:34] <i_wdt> otyugh: no, do y use a buster or sid
release? I'm using it with unstable and it's work but on
Ubuntu 18.04, this doesn’t work from work. Mb dpkg version
version problem
58 [00:37:47] <ksk> take a look at systemd-anazlyze or so -
tells you which unit takes how much time to startup
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60 [00:38:49] <otyugh> ksk, yeah. I did that. I tried to change
the bit under [install] with the wantedBy bit. But it doesn't
seem to update systemd's behaviour
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64 [00:41:57] <i_wdt> I think that best practice is to turn off
all demons that are not needed or do not understand what they are
doing. further include them if necessary
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75 [00:50:44] <jmcnaught> otyugh: how do you configure
networking? NetworkManager, /etc/network/interfaces, or something
else?
76 [00:51:06] <otyugh> networkmanager
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78 [00:51:43] <otyugh> i_wdt, this is not the issue. I know what
they are doing. I just don't need them to delay booting, they
can be up wenhever they are ready
79 [00:52:17] <otyugh> Most people don't need to have
network up to have a working session.
80 [00:52:26] <jmcnaught> otyugh: is
NetworkManager-wait-online.service enabled?
81 [00:52:34] <otyugh> first thing I disabled
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90 [00:55:11] <i_wdt> otyugh: how about disable this
(networkmamager.service) service and enable/disable on triggers or
manualy by alias
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92 [00:55:46] <otyugh> i_wdt, this seems even hackier than just
editing the systemd files. >.>
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94 [00:56:15] <otyugh> But I get your point
95 [00:56:54] <otyugh> I was hoping that there was a better
solution, as I'm not super familiar with systemd.
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98 [00:57:27] <otyugh> I just wonder what's gotten into
debian/ubuntu to delay boot that much for a feature most people
don't need.
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100 [00:58:09] <jmcnaught> otyugh: not sure how to solve your
problem, but did you edit system files in /lib/systemd?
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105 [00:59:26] <otyugh> nay, I did it from etc/systemd/system/ as
it is maint
106 [01:00:03] <otyugh> But if you are as unfamiliar as me with
systemd, don't bother. I was asking in case of anyone familiar
could tell me how to got a different route alltogether.
107 [01:00:30] <otyugh> thanks tough ^^'
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111 [01:00:58] <jmcnaught> I'm familiar with systemd I just
don't know how to solve your particular problem. Just wanted to
warn you about packages overwriting changes in /lib/systemd in case
you had made changes there.
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118 [01:05:39] <i_wdt> one of solution is setting the script
(that running service) at x session startup
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122 [01:06:43] <jmcnaught> Looking at "systemd-analyze
critical-chain" might provide some insight if you have not
already looked at it.
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126 [01:11:09] <otyugh> did so.
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137 [01:18:05] <bigMouthCommie> i'm running into an error
every time i tab-complete.
138 [01:19:03] <bigMouthCommie> warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE:
cannot change locale (en_NZ.UTF-8)
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140 [01:19:18] <bigMouthCommie> i dont want to be en_NZ anyway.
en_US would be fine
141 [01:19:44] <mutante> i think "dpkg-reconfigure
locales" and you get a menu where you can select or deselect
them
142 [01:19:50] <bigMouthCommie> i've followed the
instructions i've found online for resetting language
preferences probably 3 times now. still throws errors.
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144 [01:21:20] <bigMouthCommie> yea. i just did that but apt
still throws errors
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148 [01:22:40] <ksk> otyugh did you deamon-reload? :P
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151 [01:22:58] <otyugh> yup.
152 [01:23:09] <ksk> also, best practice is to copy the unit
files that came via package, and copy them to /etc/systemd/system/ -
they will take priority then
153 [01:23:14] <otyugh> seem I need to systemctel reenable so
that .target get refreshed
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155 [01:23:29] <otyugh> I do that already.
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157 [01:23:51] <otyugh> thanks though x)
158 [01:24:13] <jmcnaught> you can just do "systemctl edit
foobar.service" and it will make
/etc/systemd/system/foobar.service.d/override.conf for you in your
configured editor.
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162 [01:30:42] <bernyrd> ksk: for most part is no reason for
systemd to delay boot for network... even happen on server often,
very annoying, machine does not come up or waits for like 20min to
come up (if you have other access, like screen or IPMI)
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167 [01:36:09] <eb0t> hey i dont get it if i do apt-cache search
alsa....i get a big list ofthings most of which are not alsa
anything and alsa-utils is not in the list
168 [01:36:18] <eb0t> but if i search alsa-utils it finds it
169 [01:36:25] <eb0t> does anyone know why this is happening
170 [01:37:23] <mutante> eb0t: i get a big list too but
alsa-utils is in it. it's just not sorted alphabetically. try
apt-cache search alsa | grep alsa-utils
171 [01:37:26] <mutante> or | sort
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173 [01:37:57] <eb0t> ok ill try that ...i expected it to just
show alsa stuff but it decided to pull in the entire repo
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175 [01:38:33] <mutante> eb0t: that is because it does not just
search the short description line but also the whole text you would
see with apt-cache show
176 [01:38:33] <eb0t> wow that sort command is excellent ..thanks
177 [01:38:47] <jmcnaught> 'apt-cache --names-only search
alsa'
178 [01:38:52] <mutante> so i think all of these packages just
happen to have "alsa" somewhere in the description
179 [01:39:00] <mutante> maybe even as part of other words?
180 [01:39:11] <eb0t> thanks ill make a note of the sort and the
--names-only
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182 [01:43:40] <eb0t> those are kind of a life changer
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184 [01:46:41] <jmcnaught> aptitude search is also pretty great
185 [01:46:52] <eb0t> thanks
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279 [02:57:02] <ellie2> I'm having a problem with static IPs
and Debian and wondered if someone could advise me
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281 [02:58:05] <somiaj> explain your problem, and how you
configure your network.
282 [02:58:06] <ellie2> I have my system configured to use static
IPs, but when my Debian box loses it's connection to my router,
it keeps changing back to DHCP!
283 [02:58:22] <ellie2> I really hate DHCP
284 [02:58:30] <somiaj> How are you configuring your network?
285 [02:58:45] <somiaj> such as /etc/network/interfaces,
network-manager, or one of the many other tools out there?
286 [02:59:05] <ellie2> I don't have access to this machine
atm unfortunately as I cannot ssh into it!
287 [02:59:34] <ellie2> But I usually fully disble
network-manager as I find it to be a nightmare. I prefer to use text
configuration in /etc
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289 [03:00:03] <ellie2> But there's some program keeps
chaning settings.
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291 [03:00:21] <somiaj> in /etc, clarify what you are using?
292 [03:00:46] <somiaj> if you are using /etc/network/interfaces,
I don't see what could be doing this. That is how I configure
my static ips and I haven't ran into this issue
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296 [03:01:10] <somiaj> if you are using some other tool to
manually configure, it could be that you have conflicting tools
trying to control the network, in this case track down the
conflicting tools.
297 [03:01:26] <ellie2> I feel stupid, I don't have access
to the machine now as its remote and becuase it's changed its
IP again, I cannot ssh into atm
298 [03:02:37] <ellie2> I set its IP to 192.168.0.77. I do this
so that I can use port forwarding on my router so that I can log in
remotely
299 [03:03:24] <Makerblaker> You have DHCP turned off on the
router?
300 [03:03:30] <ellie2> But when the router is reset, it changes
it's IP to 192.168.0.1xx and I can no longer ssh into it as
port forwarding is ONLY for 192.168.0.77
301 [03:03:35] <Makerblaker> Or at least that address excluded?
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304 [03:03:58] <ellie2> I will have to wait until I get physical
access to the machine again tomorrow.
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307 [03:04:41] <SerajewelKS> ellie2: is .77 in the DHCP range of
your router?
308 [03:05:01] <SerajewelKS> it's a bad idea to statically
configure a machine in the DHCP range. your router could hand out
that address to something else.
309 [03:05:02] <somiaj> Another possible culprit is avahi, this
might be something that detects when a router is added/removed
310 [03:05:14] <ellie2> No. DHCP range is 192.168.0.100-199 iirc
311 [03:06:01] <somiaj> you could also just configure the router
to assign that mac address the desired ip, but it would be nice to
track down the culprit, you should be able to make it so the ip
stays static even if the wire is unpluged/pluged back in, or a
router goes offline/online
312 [03:06:05] <ellie2> I usually use numbers below 100 for my
static IPs
313 [03:06:30] <somiaj> but yea, until you have access to your
machine, it will be hard for us to help you debug the issue
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315 [03:07:48] <SerajewelKS> the most likely thing is as somiaj
said, there's probably two network configuration systems in use
on the machine
316 [03:08:07] <ellie2> I've had this problem a few times
and I've never manged to track it down.
317 [03:08:23] <Makerblaker> Is this a clean install?
318 [03:08:25] <SerajewelKS> once the network is up with a static
ip, ifupdown doesn't care about it anymore
319 [03:08:37] <SerajewelKS> so if something is changing the IP
later, it's not ifupdown
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321 [03:08:56] <ellie2> No, this is many years old. It's
usually not a big problem becuase it's rare that it loses
connection to the router
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323 [03:09:17] <somiaj> if using the interfaces file, I could see
maybe allow-hotplug causing things to trigger with a router going
down/comming back up, since it might detect a unplug/replug event.
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325 [03:09:24] <somiaj> just use auto instead
326 [03:09:28] <ellie2> But it's annoying when it happens as
I can't fix it remotely
327 [03:09:45] <somiaj> but this is all spectualation until we
get more info about your configuration
328 [03:10:42] <ellie2> Yeah, sorry about that. I will post my
/etc/network/interfaces when I get access to it!
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346 [03:25:02] <mtcdood> I'd like to mv to a filename
containing slashes, but Bash is interpreting them as a directory
path no matter how I try escaping them
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351 [03:25:53] <mtcdood> commands like 'mv 930.mp3
"$(cat file)" where file contains a filename with slashes
in it
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353 [03:26:23] <mtcdood> $(cat file | sed 's|/|\/|')
had no impact, nor did adding an additional or two additional
backslashes in an attempt to escape the slashes
354 [03:26:57] <mtcdood> nor did adding escaped single quotes
\' or "'" around "$(cat file)"
355 [03:28:33] <mtcdood> the slashes are part of dates
356 [03:28:40] <mtcdood> like 9/30/2019
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368 [03:36:38] <eb0t> urxvt -e bash -c 'tmux new -s
work'
369 [03:36:41] <eb0t> urxvt -e bash -c 'tmux new -s
weechat'
370 [03:36:42] <eb0t> Y
371 [03:36:52] <eb0t> any ideas what is wrong with those commands
in a script
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374 [03:37:14] <eb0t> it opens the tmux files..but rather than
like multiple terminals ..they seem to be inside each other
375 [03:37:49] <eb0t> when i close one ..the only one i can
see..it closes but the other appears
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394 [03:56:49] <jadax> my desktop got unexpected power-off and
now after turning it back up when I type password - I get back to
password screen
395 [03:57:04] <swift110> hey all
396 [03:57:04] <jadax> like something can't start X
397 [03:57:15] <jadax> and gives me back the login screen
398 [03:57:35] <jadax> how do I debug it? I can switch to other
terminal and log in as root in text only mode
399 [03:57:38] <jadax> with no X
400 [03:57:43] <jadax> dmesg doesn
401 [03:57:48] <jadax> 't show anything useful
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404 [04:00:20] <ksk> jadax: sounds more like an X problem, than
anything kernel related (dmesg shows kernel messages)
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406 [04:00:40] <jadax> so /var/log/X ?
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408 [04:00:53] <ksk> most likely. my experience with desktops is
limited, sorry.
409 [04:01:08] <jadax> the thing is - whole system got unexpected
shutdown so I thought it would be some filesystem errors
410 [04:01:13] <jadax> that's usually what happens
411 [04:01:24] <jadax> but then it's ext4 so journal is
there for a reason
412 [04:01:34] <ksk> yeah - but they would a) be fixed
automagicly b) would give you an error, if not
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414 [04:02:09] <ksk> did you check if there is anything in
/lost+found
415 [04:02:44] <ksk> (I would assume though, that a automatic
filesystem repair would not do such thing)
416 [04:03:45] <jadax> lost+found is empty
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420 [04:05:42] <ksk> kk - Id go and debug the X stack then
(starting with the session manager? not sure)
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423 [04:08:55] <jadax> my ~/.bashrc seems messed up
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425 [04:09:08] <jadax> I'm searching for default debian
bashrc now
426 [04:09:23] <ksk> it does not get executed by a graphical
login at all ;)
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429 [04:14:20] <fryguy> hrmm, i'm running into a weird
preseed problem. I'm using virt-install to preseed, injecting
into initrd. If I inject preseed.cfg and change nothing else, it
works. If I specify preseed/file=/preseed.cfg as a boot parameter,
it works. If I rename the file to
"somethingelse.preseed.cfg" and change the boot parameter
to match, it doesn't preseed. The contents of the preseed file
is identical in both
430 [04:14:26] <fryguy> cases. why might changing the name affect
this?
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436 [04:21:02] <jadax> I can log in to the system using text-only
terminal
437 [04:21:04] <jadax> so I log in as root
438 [04:21:08] <jadax> then I su <user>
439 [04:21:23] <jadax> and I have no access to most commands
440 [04:21:28] <jadax> like ls or env
441 [04:21:47] <jadax> they are all 'bash: env: command not
found'
442 [04:22:10] <jadax> but root is fine, root has access to these
commands
443 [04:22:18] <ksk> using buster? read the release notes
regarding so
444 [04:22:22] <ksk> s/so/su
445 [04:22:26] <jadax> yes, buster
446 [04:22:26] <ksk> or use "su user -"
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448 [04:23:43] <jadax> yes, I'm on buster
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472 [04:56:12] <cam3lto3_> hello, i just purchased a new domain
and would like to redirect my old url to the new one, how can i do
that
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475 [04:58:02] <ksk> use HTTP 302 (or 301, but careful with that,
as its permanent!) - not really a debian question ;)
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522 [05:51:24] <jadax> My default welcome screen (aka login
window) on ctrl+alt+F1 console is messed up. When I type up correct
user credentials it flashes and goes back to login window. If I go
to ctrl+alt+F2 and log in as same user and startx - then my
graphical environment starts just fine
523 [05:51:44] <jadax> how do I debug the ctrl+alt+F1 problem?
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527 [05:55:46] <saptech> how do I search for a source file?
528 [05:56:12] <saptech> in repositories
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530 [05:57:46] <swift110> ook
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532 [05:58:11] <saptech> hey swift110
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539 [06:01:59] <eb0t> hey i cant find nerdtree for vim
540 [06:02:07] <eb0t> surely that should be in debian by now
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551 [06:08:44] <somiaj> Seems someone tried to package it, but it
never made it into debian
552 [06:08:47] <somiaj>
replaced-url
553 [06:08:48] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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555 [06:09:01] <somiaj> and
replaced-url
556 [06:09:02] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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559 [06:10:55] <eb0t> omg ..i use vim as an ide and work tool
..but i mainly use nerdtree and also vim notes..and i have just
virtually finished installing and setting up debian
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561 [06:11:04] <eb0t> and there are no vim notes..and no nerdtree
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566 [06:12:37] <eb0t> i shouldnt have taken it for granted ..that
all vim stuff would be available like in every distro
567 [06:14:01] <somiaj> so just install these plugins in $HOME
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569 [06:14:40] <eb0t> ill look into it
570 [06:14:48] <eb0t> thanks
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576 [06:21:06] <swift110> ok
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812 [08:02:16] <jelly> !qotd0
813 [08:02:16] <dpkg> <nvz> Pretty much lost interest in
school after the 3rd of 4th year when I seen that they couldnt teach
me anything anymore, and I began my own quest of knowlage
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864 [08:39:54] <ratrace> I love it when bugs like bug 941414 put
a gun to my head and force me to fix stuff or else in about a week
hundreds of websites in our infra will go dark....
865 [08:40:35] <ratrace> thankfully it's a single shell
script I can download from git and not rely on debian packaging
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898 [08:58:17] <jelly> ratrace: if it's "about a
week" then your cron job does not often enough
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901 [08:59:12] <ratrace> default is 20 days, so not much more
often :)
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1065 [10:38:31] <k311> Hello, debian is a rolling relise?
1066 [10:38:57] <apollo13> no
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1068 [10:39:05] <k311> fixed?
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1070 [10:40:33] <k311> Debian is a Fixed relise or semi-rolling?
1071 [10:40:51] <ayew> fixed
1072 [10:41:01] <k311> Thanks!
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1082 [10:46:27] <jmd> systemd-timesyncd cannot seem to contact
*.debian.pool.ntp.org (I suspect a firewall is blocking them) Is
there an easy workaround?
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1088 [10:49:56] <ratrace> well.... debian testing and unstable are
in principle rolling releases
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1090 [10:52:44] <ayekat> well, testing is rolling with a small
dent in the wheel :-P
1091 [10:53:33] <ratrace> jmd: use another pool?
1092 [10:54:19] <jmd> Any suggestions? (I suspect port 123 might
be generally blocked)
1093 [10:55:06] <ratrace> if you have port 123 blocked at an
upstream firewall, then surely there must be a NTP service inside
your LAN or DMZ.... and if not? fire the sysadmin of that network.
1094 [10:55:35] <ratrace> jmd: but uh... tried with anotehr pool?
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1097 [10:57:55] <jmd> Yes I have.
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1115 [11:11:26] <ratrace> jmd: so what kind of network is that?
also, you can use mtr-tiny to diagnose of port 123 is blocked and
where
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1117 [11:12:08] <Eightynine> You know, you where right. My
motherboard has 3 LEDs on it: CPU, RAM, VGA. These LEDs are there
for easy diagnostics. If LED is turned off then the respective
component works without problems. But if it turns on and shines red
then the component is bad or doesn't work properly. Previously
only VGA was turned on during PC boot (and then indicator turns off,
PC keeps booting) and RAM indicator is turning on too. Another issue
I had is Telegram update. That was
1118 [11:12:08] <Eightynine> a bug. It showed update from 1.8.8 to
the same version, now it shows 1.8.9.
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1126 [11:14:59] <jmd> ratrace: I'll checkout mtr-tiny Thanks.
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1131 [11:16:05] <ratrace> jmd: it's a traceroute on steroids
and can do syn/udp based "pinging"
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1135 [11:17:58] <jmd> Yeah it looks like all ports except 443 are
blocked. :(
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1137 [11:18:42] <ratrace> jmd: what kind of network is that!
1138 [11:19:03] <jmd> A firewalled one.
1139 [11:19:52] <ratrace> by a clueless admin?
1140 [11:20:07] <ratrace> or are there LAN/DMZ proxy services for
non-https traffic?
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1142 [11:20:20] <ratrace> like, dunno, dns? ntp? email?
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1365 [13:57:27] <ALowther> Where is `The name
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files`
coming from? It's an error I try to get when using `systemctl
start $SERVICE` as non-root and without sudo. I can get it to work
by using sudo, it just seems like a vague error that isn't
obviously related to root privileges, at least to me, and I was
hoping to get a better understanding.
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1368 [13:58:46] <ratrace> ALowther: systemd has the ability to
check policykit for privileged operations.
1369 [13:59:08] <ratrace> in fact, it doesn't understand the
difference, and can't tell you "you must've run this
as root" because it wouldn't be true.
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1371 [13:59:15] <ratrace> yes, it stinks.
1372 [13:59:37] <ALowther> !policykit
1373 [14:00:05] <ratrace> ALowther: google up "polkit"
1374 [14:00:10] <ALowther> Bummer, any hits/tips on understand
policykit—I imagine I could google it, but if you have
relevant sources, that would be great. Everything on google
isn't a great resource.
1375 [14:00:15] <ALowther> ratrace: Will do.
1376 [14:00:35] <ratrace> ALowther: it's a dbus based sudo
analogue from the gnome/freedesktop camp.
1377 [14:01:36] <ratrace> essentially it's a list of policies
written in javascript (!) which resembles more a role-based access
control, than sudo. Anyway, if you're using GNOME, chances are
it's present and if you start a service as non root, it'll
present you a nice GUI "password pls" dialogue.
1378 [14:02:08] <ratrace> (polkit daemon is not in javascript,
policies only are)
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1383 [14:08:23] <ALowther> ratrace: Interesting. I'm using
Debian on a VPS—GNOME, to my knowledge, is just for GUI. I
wonder why that is included in my distribution, unless that's
just how it ships.
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1385 [14:09:35] <ratrace> sorry, not sure I understand "why
that is included in my distribution"
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1388 [14:10:42] <ALowther> The VPS provider allows me to select
which distribution I want to use and installs it. If I am only
accessing remotely and if GNOME is only for GUI, I wonder why they
installed a version of Debian including GNOME support/packages.
1389 [14:11:16] <ratrace> sounds like amateur hour.
1390 [14:11:52] <ratrace> especially since you should be having
polkit then, if gnome is installed.
1391 [14:11:57] <ksk> I agree, kind of a red flag if the image on
your VPS contains a desktop.
1392 [14:12:00] <ALowther> ratrace: Could be. It's a low cost
VPS I found. 3GB RAM for $3/month. Something interesting to learn
and keep in mind.
1393 [14:12:34] <ksk> you could try the obvious, and ask your
provider why that is, of course ;)
1394 [14:12:34] <ALowther> ratrace: Well, from what you're
saying, I do, because I am getting that error when trying to start a
service via systemd without root/sudo
1395 [14:12:47] <ALowther> ksk: I absolutely will! :)
1396 [14:13:03] <ksk> ALowther: eh? only the superuser is allowed
to start/stop services, that is totally normal
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1398 [14:13:25] <ratrace> ALowther: no, you should see a popup
asking for password, if polkit is present (and systemd is using it)
1399 [14:14:03] <ratrace> ksk: actually not on gnome systems.
systemctl will consult polkit, and if you read above, the problem
here is that systemctl didn't say "you must be root"
but complained no dbus-activated unit provided the polkit service.
1400 [14:14:11] <ALowther> ksk: But if polkit is associated with
GNOME, and not present otherwise on Debian—by default, and I
am getting an error associated with polkit, then wouldn't that
mean GNOME is installed?
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1402 [14:14:38] <ksk> mhhmkay. even on a remote ssh login, for
example?
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1405 [14:15:14] <ratrace> ksk: afaik yes, but you won't get a
gui popup naturally. I think I saw that last time I tried feh dorah.
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1407 [14:16:01] <whislock> polkit does not require gnome - only a
small set of libraries.
1408 [14:16:19] <ksk> wondering how anyone could think of that as
a nice feature, but nevermind me :x
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1410 [14:16:51] <whislock> Just install 'policykit-1'.
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1414 [14:17:57] <ratrace> true, but gnome requires polkit.
1415 [14:18:06] <whislock> A requires B does not mean that B
requires A.
1416 [14:18:08] <ratrace> so if gnome is present, polkit should be
too.
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1420 [14:19:42] <ALowther> Is there an easy way to look in my
filesystem to see if GNOME is indeed installed? I looked in /etc and
did not see a directory named GNOME
1421 [14:20:01] <whislock> dpkg -l | grep gnome
1422 [14:20:02] <dpkg> No packages found matching | grep gnome
1423 [14:20:02] <ksk> "dpkg -l | grep gnome"
1424 [14:20:07] <whislock> Thank you, dpkg.
1425 [14:20:14] <ksk> or dpkg -l $gnome-pkg-name" - if you
know how its called
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1427 [14:20:32] <ratrace> ALowther: wait, I thought you said you
had your VPS installed with gnome...
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1429 [14:20:50] <ALowther> Okay, I got no results, so that seems
promising.
1430 [14:20:54] <whislock> It is highly unlikely you have gnome if
polkit is missing.
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1432 [14:21:01] <whislock> Simply install policykit-1.
1433 [14:21:29] <ALowther> ratrace: No, I apparently, incorrectly,
deduced that since you mentioned polkit is shipping with GNOME that
since I am getting a polkit error then I have GNOME installed.
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1435 [14:22:02] <ALowther> whislock: I thought the error that I am
getting is from polkit.
1436 [14:22:04] <ratrace> ALowther: you have the OTHER way around:
no polkit present
1437 [14:22:05] <whislock> Attempting to manage services under a
non-root context will cause systemd to attempt to authorize via
polkit, as that is the only other avenue available.
1438 [14:22:18] <ratrace> ALowther: or at least not enabled as as
dbus-activated service for some reason
1439 [14:22:19] <whislock> The error is from systemd not finding
polkit.
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1441 [14:22:35] <ratrace> whislock: yes, we've been through
that, pls re-read backlog :)
1442 [14:22:56] <whislock> ratrace: You've been assuming
gnome is installed the whole time. Backlog seems of little value.
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1446 [14:23:14] <ratrace> whislock: because ALowther said they did
1447 [14:23:14] <whislock> I'm not interested in walking back
incorrect assumptions. I am only interested in the actual state and
the actual solution.
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1451 [14:23:44] <ratrace> I said from the start that the error
means systemd wanted polkit. I never said anything about gnome being
installed, ALowther assumed the other way around.
1452 [14:24:06] <whislock> "ratrace | so if gnome is present,
polkit should be too"
1453 [14:24:09] <whislock> Moving on.
1454 [14:24:20] <ratrace> the only incorrect assumption here is
you thinking I'm having incorrect assumptions. so
you're.... meta-incorrect about my assumptions ;)
1455 [14:24:23] <whislock> ALowther: Install
'policykit-1' and there you go.
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1458 [14:24:37] <ALowther> ratrace: whislock is correct.
1459 [14:24:42] <ALowther> whislock: I understand now, thank you.
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1461 [14:24:52] <whislock> ratrace: Mine was not an assumption. It
was an observation. Take care.
1462 [14:25:01] <ratrace> I can't believe this convo.....
1463 [14:25:09] <whislock> ALowther: You're quite welcome.
1464 [14:25:12] <ALowther> whislock: I don't want/need
polkit, just wanted a better understanding of why such an abstract
error message was presented when needing root priveleges.
1465 [14:25:34] <whislock> Heh. That's not the first time
I've heard that complaint in that particular circumstance.
1466 [14:25:40] <ratrace> I never said gnome had to be installed,
I was merely explaining what polkit was! And then ALowther said they
had VPS with GNOME and I said okay, if GNOME is there, then polkit
must be too.
1467 [14:25:42] <whislock> "You're not root and I
can't find polkit" would be better.
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1469 [14:25:56] <ALowther> ratrace: He's correct in
understand that I've been interpreting this convo through a
specific lens. I must have misunderstood your initial message. I
thought you were saying that it was using polkit and polkit was
providing that error.
1470 [14:26:14] <ratrace> ALowther: no I specifically said that a
dbus-activated polkit service was not found
1471 [14:26:15] <earend1> shh.
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1473 [14:26:35] <ratrace> ALowther: you assumed you had gnome
because I explained what polkit was, that it came from the
gnome/freedesktop camp.
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1477 [14:27:09] <earend1> is that dbus without polkit running wild
and free?
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1481 [14:30:19] <ratrace> The $1M question is... is dbus even
running :) because it's not pulled in by base installation.
1482 [14:30:31] <whislock> ALowther: The error itself originates
from dbus. systemd can't authorize the action under root
privileges, because you didn't execute the command under a root
context. systemd tries to consult policykit via dbus. dbus
can't find the policykit provider, throws that cryptic error,
and fails to authorize the action. systemd then also gives a cryptic
error.
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1486 [14:30:59] <whislock> ALowther: If you wanted to know the
full failure process. ;)
1487 [14:31:09] <earend1> is there any desktop/x-window
environment not depending on dbus?
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1489 [14:31:48] <ALowther> ratrace: Yes, it's running.
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1491 [14:31:58] <ALowther> whislock: Yes, thank you :).
1492 [14:32:04] <ratrace> earend1: probably not. though
technically it's doable, I don't think it's by
default in debian
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1496 [14:33:48] <earend1> i mean. i get it. there must me some
interop bus .. and access control. is chmod not well? not as fancy?
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1498 [14:34:33] <earend1> ratrace: if you say debian u don't
mean any window thing. like openbox or lxde or so. just consoles.
right?
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1500 [14:34:39] <ratrace> earend1: polkit does way more than unix
permissions, aka DAC. polkit is more like a MAC
1501 [14:35:10] <ratrace> earend1: I meant I don't think
debian packages that use dbus are built with no dep on dbus
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1503 [14:35:16] <ratrace> (by default)
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1513 [14:42:20] <cm13g09> hi all, Debian 10.1, radeon (Trinity)
7520G, and I seem to be unable to rotate the screen.... I get
"xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed" using xrandr --output
HDMI-0 --rotate left - Radeon drivers and firmware-linux-nonfree is
loaded, just rotation seems to be unsupported. Any hints where to
look?
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1515 [14:43:16] <cm13g09> There's no obvious errors in any of
the logs I'd usually check
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1517 [14:44:41] <diogenes_> cm13g09, afaik
iio-sensor-proxy.service is responsible for rotation, check and see
if it's running.
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1520 [14:47:07] <earend1> k thanks for pointing out DAC/MAC todo
read once upon a liftime updated
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1534 [14:50:19] <earend1> cm13g09: did u need to do some tweaking
to make your radeon work with the firmware on buster? the good
'old' apt install xorg openbox & startx fails for me
without non-free drivers.. and with non-free software the system
crashes cold
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1536 [14:50:46] <earend1> on debian 9 it worked nicely. with and
without non-free firmware
1537 [14:50:52] <earend1> for me
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1543 [14:53:00] <earend1> the dbus dependency tatology
1544 [14:53:06] <earend1> tautology
1545 [14:53:22] <earend1> gute musik ist besser.
1546 [14:53:38] <cm13g09> earend1: I mean, I just installed
non-free and it seems to "work" with no rotation
1547 [14:53:55] <cm13g09> Stretch worked fine with rotation
1548 [14:53:58] <cm13g09> which is the annoying bit
1549 [14:54:16] <earend1> yep. the dbus comments were r@trace
1550 [14:54:41] <cm13g09> I have considered installing the
backports kernel as a test
1551 [14:54:51] <earend1> hm. can i use the debian 9 kernel with
buster packages?
1552 [14:54:54] <earend1> ah
1553 [14:55:05] <earend1> look. how do we do that.
1554 [14:55:13] <earend1> im a noob. thanks in advance.
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1556 [14:55:39] <cm13g09> earend1: The general advice would be
"don't use backports unless you know what you're
doing"
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1558 [14:57:39] <earend1> how do i install an older kernel with
buster. if possible. if you're not so sure, i appreciate your
sincere attitude and eventual join in an adventorous researcxh
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1560 [14:57:57] <cm13g09> earend1: I don't think you easily
can
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1562 [14:58:02] <earend1> k
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1566 [14:58:18] <BCMM> cm13g09: do you definitely have the right
firmware loaded? have a look in dmesg and check that your driver is
actually loading firmware
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1568 [14:59:48] <cm13g09> BCMM: "direct-loading
firmware" appears a bunch of times
1569 [15:00:10] <BCMM> yup, that ought to be working then...
1570 [15:00:16] <cm13g09> Also, DRM reports "Found VCE
firmware/feedback version 50.0.1 / 17"
1571 [15:00:22] <cm13g09> BCMM: Xorg itself works
1572 [15:00:26] <cm13g09> just not with rotation
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1575 [15:00:37] <cm13g09> If you try and rotate the screen it
declares "nope"
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1578 [15:01:46] <earend1> eheh
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1604 [15:15:12] <Ojd_> hi, is there any way to add custom bash
scripts to an ISO image so they run AFTER the ISO is installed, for
example, in a VirtualBox machine?
1605 [15:15:32] <karlpinc> earend1: There is a kernel handbook at
debian.org. It is mostly for kernel developers but there's
not-necessarly-easy-to-find instructions on how to compile your own
kernel. You could compile an old kernel, but that could also break
stuff that needs a newer kernel.
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1609 [15:17:43] <karlpinc> earend1: You might also try diffing the
kernel configs to see if there's something that's been
turned off in the newer kernels. But before doing lots of work on
anything I'd try to see if you can find out more about the
problem.
1610 [15:18:10] <BCMM> Ojd_: when do you want it to run? when the
newly-installed system is booted?
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1612 [15:20:19] <Ojd_> yes, two examples: 1- I wantto add a git
repo, so the idea would be that right after installation, the script
simple clone the repo.
1613 [15:21:14] <Ojd_> 2- I have a script that should run once to
configure several aspects of the system. I can copy the script to
the ISO, but I haven't found a way to run it
"post-installation"
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1615 [15:21:33] <Ojd_> (if I tried the typical hooks I got errors)
1616 [15:22:04] <BCMM> Ojd_: create a package that installs a
systemd unit perhaps?
1617 [15:23:24] <karlpinc> Ojd_: You've looked at the debian
installation manual? (Seems worth checking....)
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1649 [15:42:22] <earend1> thanks karl
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1652 [15:43:08] <earend1> ooh. not yet but will do
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1655 [15:43:29] <earend1> handbook sounds friendly.
1656 [15:43:51] <ksk> !tell earend1 about handbook
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1666 [15:50:37] <cm13g09> BCMM: kernel from buster-backports works
for xrandr
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1668 [15:51:13] <cm13g09> Which means that somewhere between 4.19
and 5.2 it broke
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1670 [15:51:19] <cm13g09> ....got fixed even
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1674 [15:53:43] <Ojd_> karlpinc: I was reading this
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1675 [15:54:49] <Ojd_> BCMM: that sound like a good idea, I would
need to read how to crate packages but thanks
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1698 [16:07:03] <tw> How do I make xdg-open run a desktop file
instead of view the contents?
1699 [16:08:11] <m92lk> I'm trying to use the built-in sort
function to sort a dynamically allocated array but the program just
reads in the first variable then terminates?
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1702 [16:08:43] <m92lk> oops sorry
1703 [16:08:49] <m92lk> wrong channel
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1709 [16:10:35] <tw> m92lk: needs cin in your loop so you can
actually read the names.
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1711 [16:13:32] <m92lk> tw: thanks, such an elementary mistake :(
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1728 [16:28:05] <ws2k3> how does ssh determine which ssh key to
offer to a system when logging in?
1729 [16:28:17] <greycat> It sends every key it can find.
1730 [16:28:25] <greycat> The server says "this one, you can
use this one".
1731 [16:28:32] <ws2k3> ur sure?
1732 [16:28:57] <ws2k3> greycat: cause i have i have an id_rsa.pub
and a .pem file and i see it sends the pem file
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1735 [16:30:25] <ksk> ws2k3: use "ssh -v" (or more v) to
see which keys are offered in wich order
1736 [16:30:28] <ratrace> ws2k3: pem is alphabetically first.
rename it to xid_rsa.pub and observe ssh -v
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1739 [16:32:07] <ws2k3> ksk: ratrace it looks like it doesnt send
my id_rsa.pub its not listed in the output
1740 [16:32:46] <ksk> eh, .pub indicates a publickey, you would
rather authenticate using the private part of the key.
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1742 [16:33:18] <ws2k3> ksk: im not seeing id_rsa at all
1743 [16:33:29] <greycat> If you use -v, it should say something
like debug1: Will attempt key: /home/wooledg/.ssh/id_rsa RSA
SHA256:...
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1745 [16:33:57] <ws2k3> greycat: yes i did -v and it only shows my
.pem file
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1747 [16:34:01] <greycat> you *do* have the id_rsa (private key)
file that matches the .pub file, right?
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1749 [16:34:08] <ws2k3> yes
1750 [16:34:28] <ws2k3> id and id_rsa.pub are in my .ssh folder
1751 [16:34:37] <ws2k3> next to me .pem file and my config
1752 [16:34:47] <greycat> "id"?
1753 [16:35:15] <ws2k3> what do you mean greycat?
1754 [16:35:20] <greycat> Is the file named "id"?
1755 [16:35:23] <ws2k3> yes
1756 [16:35:27] <greycat> That's why it's not used.
NEXT!
1757 [16:35:34] <ws2k3> id.rsa and id_rsa.pub
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1759 [16:35:42] <ws2k3> hmm what do you mean?
1760 [16:35:45] <greycat> *plonk*
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1762 [16:35:50] <ws2k3> cause ssh generated it by default this way
^^
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1764 [16:35:58] <ksk> ws2k3: cmon, you are part of this channel
for like what, years? :o
1765 [16:36:07] <ksk> rename it id_rsa and have fun..
1766 [16:36:34] <ws2k3> my apologies. its id_rsa and id_rsa.pub.
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1769 [16:36:46] <ws2k3> ksk: like 15 years now
1770 [16:37:07] <ws2k3> and i know people like greycat are here
already for a long long loong time :P
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1775 [16:37:17] <ksk> as the cat already plonked, and you are
giving mixed signals, why not paste "ls .ssh" and ssh -v?
:> (be aware of possible information leaks..)
1776 [16:37:25] <flipbits> afternoon all...
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1779 [16:37:48] <flipbits> having some issues with buster and
nvidia, hoping someone might be able to shed soe light?
1780 [16:38:06] <ksk> flipbits: did you checkout the debian wiki
article about nvidia gpus already?
1781 [16:38:14] <greycat> probably for the same reason it typed
"ur sure"
1782 [16:38:31] <flipbits> yep, i have read and tried pretty much
everything in it
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1784 [16:38:49] <flipbits> I have a GeForce 740 Nvidia card
1785 [16:38:56] <flipbits> runs fine with the nouveau drivers
1786 [16:39:22] <flipbits> nvidia-detect tells me the
nvidia-driver package should work
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1788 [16:39:38] <flipbits> install this, no problems, but when I
reboot, black screen :(
1789 [16:39:55] <flipbits> looks like the nvidia module is failing
to load
1790 [16:40:02] <flipbits> secure boot disabled
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1792 [16:40:45] <flipbits> when in black screen and nouveau
blacklisted, lshw shows the display as unclaimed, no driver
associated with it
1793 [16:41:26] <jhutchins_wk> ws2k3: ssh has a -v option that
will give you details of the handshake process. You can increase the
detail with more v's -vvv
1794 [16:41:43] <ksk> jhutchins_wk: we already told him that like
3 times ;)
1795 [16:42:02] <flipbits> for what it's worth, I originally
had a GeForce 1600Ti which wouldn't load at all, doesn't
look like the nouveau drivers could manage it
1796 [16:42:09] <jelly> anything past a single -v is less than
useful unless you know exactly what you're looking for
1797 [16:43:09] <jhutchins_wk> ksk: Yeah, I see that.
1798 [16:45:02] <ws2k3> jhutchins_wk: yes i know. but that does
not mention the id_rsa or id_rsa.pub file at all
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1800 [16:46:38] <jhutchins_wk> ws2k3: I don't know what
you've done to end up here, but you can back up the files in
.ssh, generate a new key, put it on the remote with ssh-copy-id
1801 [16:47:07] <jhutchins_wk> If you've edited the ssh
config files in /etc, revert those changes.
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1804 [16:50:07] <bitflips> flipbits: log file error(s)?
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1806 [16:50:50] <flipbits> log file - not sure what all the
relevant bits are, but...
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1815 [16:53:30] <flipbits> e.g. nvidia: module verification
failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
1816 [16:53:45] <flipbits> nvidia-persistenced: Failed to query
NVIDIA devices. Please ensure that the NVIDIA device files
(/dev/nvidia*) exist, and that user 116 has read and write permis$
1817 [16:54:05] <flipbits> systemd-modules-load[395]: modprobe:
ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_current': Exec format
error
1818 [16:55:37] <peterandre> which folder does debian save sound
recordings created with the sound recorder?
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1824 [16:56:18] <ksk> peterandre: not sure what "the sound
recorder" is, but somehwere inside your home directory most
likely - take a look at the manpage maybe?
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1827 [16:56:36] <peterandre> ksk, ok i will do that thanks
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1829 [16:57:12] <peterandre> oh yes how silly in home folder
indeed stored in recordings
1830 [16:57:16] <peterandre> thanks for the tip!
1831 [16:58:15] <ksk> !next
1832 [16:58:15] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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1840 [17:01:38] <netcrash> What can be causing increase in inode
usage and after a while it get's solved, how to detect this ?
1841 [17:02:19] <ksk> netcrash: afaik not too easy - find is your
friend, but if there are indeed "many" files, it can take
ages to count
1842 [17:02:41] <ksk> not sure if you could some information about
that via filesystem tools somehow..
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1851 [17:04:57] <ksk> "ls -l" also has a column for the
number of hardlinks in a directory, if I remember correctly
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1853 [17:05:24] <greycat> It shows a hard link count for every
file, including directories.
1854 [17:05:29] <ksk> seems to be the third field from the right -
but the ls manpage is not too helpful about explaining the colums -
or I dont get it ;)
1855 [17:05:58] <greycat> "after a while it gets solved"
means the files are deleted after they're no longer in use,
yes?
1856 [17:06:10] <greycat> so what exactly is the problem?
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1858 [17:06:37] <ratrace> netcrash: monitor df -i
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1864 [17:09:11] <aggelis> %c
1865 [17:09:12] <dselect> See, or S-E-E. If you're too lazy
to spell it out, we're too lazy to help you.
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1874 [17:10:45] <netcrash> greycat: the problem is that I'm
getting alerts of free inode usage "space" running out of.
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1876 [17:11:15] <greycat> OK, start with "df -i" or
"df -i /something".
1877 [17:11:15] <ksk> netcrash: soo, your problem is some
"alert giving application" you did not configure
correctly? ;)
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1879 [17:11:48] <netcrash> zabbix is very alerty
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1882 [17:11:55] <greycat> Until you tell us what file system this
is, what file system *type* it is, and the actual number of inodes
available and in use, it's hard to give any advice.
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1887 [17:14:22] <netcrash> greycat: sorry
1888 [17:14:23] <netcrash> Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse%
Mounted on
1889 [17:14:25] <netcrash> /dev/sda1 14057472 11226998 2830474 80%
/
1890 [17:14:30] <jelly> !paste
1891 [17:14:31] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
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1893 [17:15:12] <greycat> that truly is a *huge* number of files
1894 [17:15:13] <jelly> netcrash: so you have 80% inodes used, and
around 11M files and directories
1895 [17:15:18] <ratrace> 11M inodes, where on earth did you
consume that! :)
1896 [17:15:37] <greycat> what does your computer do that opens 11
million files on the root file system?
1897 [17:15:38] <jelly> the alert is warranted, I'd say
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1899 [17:16:00] <netcrash>
replaced-url
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1901 [17:16:13] <netcrash> it's a jenkins system
1902 [17:16:30] <ksk> one approach I used was some bash which uses
find for every level of directories, and outputted you the number of
files.
1903 [17:16:53] <ksk> as I said, it will of course take ages with
that many inodes - depending on disk speed
1904 [17:17:45] <jelly> netcrash: a jenkins system that never
deletes any builds or tests or test results?
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1906 [17:18:12] <netcrash> jelly: no idea on how jenkins behaves
on tests and builds
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1909 [17:18:24] <jelly> do you have an idea of what jenkins does?
1910 [17:19:20] <jelly> (AFAIK all it does is builds and tests...
it's a CI part of a CI/CD system)
1911 [17:19:26] <netcrash> jelly: I know what it does, used years
ago
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1913 [17:20:18] <greycat> are you bulding something large enough
to create millions of files during its build?
1914 [17:20:23] <netcrash> I'll ask the guy who uses jenkins
on what he does
1915 [17:20:44] <netcrash> greycat: I'm going to ask the dev.
1916 [17:21:22] <netcrash> thank you all for the help
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1918 [17:21:30] <jelly> it's likely they never set up
deleting any old stuff, retention "forever"
1919 [17:21:56] <greycat> 11:01 netcrash> What can be causing
increase in inode usage and after a while it get's solved, how
to detect this ?
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1921 [17:22:09] <jelly> oh, missed that
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1923 [17:22:33] <jelly> but if it gets increased from 78% to 80%
and back...
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1926 [17:23:14] <greycat> More information would definitely help.
He could set up a script to run "df -i" every 5 minutes
and log it to a file. Or he could just manually run it once before
jenkins starts, once while jenkins is building something, and once
after jenkins is done.
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1952 [17:42:21] <netcrash> he wasn't deleting the old builds
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1965 [17:53:45] <netcrash> Will mariadb have something like
timescaledb in it?
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1974 [18:02:31] <jelly> netcrash: that's probably a great
question for #maria
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1981 [18:06:58] <jhutchins_wk> Good quote from the mailing lists:
"Design a system any fool can use, and only a fool will want to
use it."
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1986 [18:07:37] <jhutchins_wk> netcrash: What is timescaledb,
where is it found, and what is it used for?
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2027 [18:36:31] <kreyren> Looking for new mirror for
replaced-url
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2029 [18:37:15] <kreyren> found
replaced-url
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2051 [18:46:00] <petn-randall> ,v fonts-opensymbol
2052 [18:46:01] <judd> Package: fonts-opensymbol on amd64 --
jessie: 2:102.6+LibO4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-security:
2:102.6+LibO4.3.3-2+deb8u12; stretch: 2:102.7+LibO5.2.7-1+deb9u10;
stretch-proposed-updates: 2:102.7+LibO5.2.7-1+deb9u11;
stretch-security: 2:102.7+LibO5.2.7-1+deb9u11; buster:
2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u3; stretch-backports:
2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u4~bpo9+1; buster-proposed-updates:
2053 [18:46:02] <judd> 2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u4;
buster-security: 2:102.10+LibO6.1.5-3+deb10u4; buster-backports:
2:102.11+LibO6.3.2-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 2:102.11+LibO6.3.2-1; sid:
2:102.11+LibO6.3.2-1
2054 [18:46:45] <petn-randall> kreyren: Why are you downloading
deb files by hand?
2055 [18:47:30] <kreyren> petn-randall,
replaced-url
2056 [18:47:47] * kreyren is just updating mirror in current logic
2057 [18:47:53] <kreyren> or is there better way to get this font?
2058 [18:48:31] <kreyren> i guess by using
replaced-url
2059 [18:48:53] <greycat> ahhh, fonts-opensymbol is part of
libreoffice.
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2061 [18:49:18] <greycat> that's how a font package can have
4 security updates
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2081 [19:01:26] <SerajewelKS> does luks with an external header
give exactly the same amount of disk space as the underlying device?
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2085 [19:02:50] <SerajewelKS> i have disks with /boot and /
mirrored, and / is in LVM. considering adding a LUKS layer between
the mirror and the LVM PV.
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2087 [19:03:08] <SerajewelKS> if i put the LUKS header on /boot
then in theory i won't have to shrink the / volume?
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2105 [19:13:45] <sleezio> hi, trying to install dxvk...these
instructions state that dxvk is in the 'main' repo for
debian, but apt-get doesn't see it
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2109 [19:14:37] <diogenes_> v, dxvk
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2112 [19:14:59] <diogenes_> v. dxvk
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2114 [19:16:55] <sleezio> diogenes_, not sure what you mean by v.
dxvk
2115 [19:17:47] <diogenes_> sleezio, the bot should have shown the
available packages with that name but it seems to not wanting to
listen to me.
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2119 [19:18:50] <diogenes_> sleezio,
replaced-url
2120 [19:19:03] <diogenes_> it's for wine.
2121 [19:19:35] <sleezio> yes, but i see ti's for buster,
i'm on stretch
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2123 [19:20:29] <diogenes_> sleezio, if you installe winehq then
it should be available in winetricks.
2124 [19:20:47] <diogenes_> you need to add winehq repo in the
sources.list.
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2127 [19:21:28] <diogenes_> sleezio, much easier is to use
playonlinux and pick the latest wine version from there.
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2131 [19:23:04] <sleezio> i'll try, thanks
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2134 [19:24:49] <diogenes_> sleezio, but you need a vulkan capable
card and driver.
2135 [19:25:13] <petn-randall> kreyren: Hardcoding the package
version is not a good concept. It will change with time.
2136 [19:25:14] <sleezio> how can i tell if nvidia driver 390 is
capable?
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2138 [19:25:17] <petn-randall> !apt mirror
2139 [19:25:25] <petn-randall> !buster mirror
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2141 [19:25:35] <petn-randall> dpkg: are you alive?
2142 [19:25:36] <dpkg> petn-randall: KCI error, or a problem with
the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
2143 [19:25:42] <kreyren> petn-randall, what do you recommend
then? I'm unable to find other mirror
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2145 [19:25:58] <kreyren> to clarify: there a lots of mirrors but
the font is different
2146 [19:26:37] <petn-randall> !buster sources.list
2147 [19:26:37] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Buster" has the lines: "deb
replaced-url
2148 [19:26:40] <petn-randall> kreyren: ^^^
2149 [19:26:58] <petn-randall> kreyren: And you still should be
using apt, and not downloading packages manually.
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2151 [19:27:06] <diogenes_> sleezio, if you use nvidia proprietary
driver then you're ok, if nouvea then it doesn't support
vulkan yet.
2152 [19:27:31] <kreyren> petn-randall, it's for usage in
winetricks which is expected to work on non-debian too
2153 [19:27:35] <petn-randall> kreyren: If you need to download a
package, there's `apt download` for that, which also takes care
of verification.
2154 [19:27:37] <kreyren> so using apt is not an option for this
usecase
2155 [19:28:11] <kreyren> but that is probably offtopic here
2156 [19:28:17] <petn-randall> kreyren: Well, you're not
verifying the package in any way, and a compromised mirror might
compromise your system that way.
2157 [19:28:19] <sleezio> i had dxvk running on xubuntu, just
installed debian the other day, trying to get it back going for
games...so i know the card can handle it, i *think* my driver on
xubuntu was 4xx...i see debian prefered 390
2158 [19:29:08] <kreyren> petn-randall, it has checksum in a logic
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2163 [19:31:24] <petn-randall> kreyren: Ah, ok then.
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2170 [19:32:37] <nine09> i was gonna ask a question but i figured
it out.
2171 [19:32:46] <nine09> however it kind of led to a new question.
2172 [19:32:47] <petn-randall> Glad we could help. :)
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2174 [19:32:57] <nine09> haha :)
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2177 [19:33:43] <nine09> usually when I run a command that
requires root, i get the typical error "must be root,
etc"; however when I tried to run usermod as a regular user it
said the command didn't exist.
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2179 [19:33:53] <nine09> working as intended?
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2182 [19:35:16] <petn-randall> nine09: Yes, that's actually
the default.
2183 [19:35:20] <diogenes_> nine09, yes, it won't find
because of the path, if the program is in /usr/sbin then you need
sudo.
2184 [19:36:04] <petn-randall> nine09: AS diogenes_ said, most
tools requiring root are in /sbin/ or /usr/sbin/, both which
aren't in a normal user's $PATH.
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2186 [19:36:26] <nine09> ah ok
2187 [19:36:35] <nine09> no sudo here, running debian
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2189 [19:37:08] <SerajewelKS> sudo is not installed by default
2190 [19:37:42] <greycat> you can add /usr/sbin and /sbin to your
$PATH if you wish
2191 [19:38:02] <greycat> the commands that actually require root
privileges will give you interesting error messages if you try to
run them
2192 [19:38:22] <nine09> as long as they still prompt for
elevation
2193 [19:38:28] <diogenes_> nine09, if during install you
don't specify a root account, then it will install with udual
sudo.
2194 [19:38:36] <diogenes_> usual*
2195 [19:38:41] <nine09> ah cool
2196 [19:38:49] <sleezio> diogenes_, i got it working without
playonlinux, thanks for the help
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2198 [19:39:06] <diogenes_> sleezio, cool, you'ew welcome.
2199 [19:39:13] <diogenes_> you're*
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2205 [19:40:24] <B|ack0p> hi
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2207 [19:40:36] <B|ack0p> i just installed debian without graphics
and no network
2208 [19:40:40] <B|ack0p> i am on commandline
2209 [19:40:47] <B|ack0p> but doesnt connected to internet
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2211 [19:40:57] <B|ack0p> i plugged ethernet but still no
connection
2212 [19:41:04] <B|ack0p> i am on another machine at the moment
2213 [19:41:13] <B|ack0p> how can i get connection to debian
command line?
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2215 [19:42:29] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: How did you set up the
network connection?
2216 [19:42:47] <B|ack0p> petn-randall: my debian image was small
netinst
2217 [19:42:55] <B|ack0p> it didnt install network driver
2218 [19:42:59] <B|ack0p> intel wifi link 5100
2219 [19:43:07] <B|ack0p> installed without desktop
2220 [19:43:08] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: If you didn't set up
the network, it won't be there.
2221 [19:43:22] <B|ack0p> well i dont know how to set it
2222 [19:43:26] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: You can either use
ifupdown, or network-manager for that. It won't happen
automatically on a minimal install.
2223 [19:43:30] <petn-randall> !ifupdown
2224 [19:43:31] <dpkg> Your network configuration is in the file
/etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for
documentation, "zless
/usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for
example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a
and ifdown -a respectively.
replaced-url
2225 [19:43:33] <B|ack0p> i am logged in tty1 now
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2227 [19:43:46] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: ^^^ This should get you
started.
2228 [19:43:51] <tw> might need nonfree blob with that adapter.
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2230 [19:44:06] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: Oh, wifi I'd rather
use network-manager for that.
2231 [19:44:11] <B|ack0p> i thought i can connect from ethernet
and set wifi later
2232 [19:44:18] <petn-randall> And yes, you'll need non-free
firmware for it to work.
2233 [19:44:27] <B|ack0p> but when i plug ethernet cable it doesnt
connect anything
2234 [19:44:42] <diogenes_> ethernet should work automatically but
make sure /etc/resolv.conf is polulated.
2235 [19:44:50] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: Right. But you asked for
wifi first. Ethernet would be the way to go for now.
2236 [19:45:02] <tw> B|ack0p: Honestly, it's probably faster
to reinstall with a network cable plugged in because you didn't
install a *whole* lot of packages due to network being unavailable.
2237 [19:45:09] <B|ack0p> i tried to install irssi on there but
didnt happen
2238 [19:45:31] <B|ack0p> tw: so while installing debian should i
connect to ethernet?
2239 [19:45:42] <tw> If you're installing from netinst, yes.
2240 [19:45:53] <B|ack0p> hmm
2241 [19:45:56] <B|ack0p> ok let me try
2242 [19:46:02] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: You can either use the
Debian images, or the internet. If you use the network installer,
you'll need network, yes.
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2244 [19:46:40] <B|ack0p> well
2245 [19:46:46] <B|ack0p> there were a lot of dvd images
2246 [19:46:49] <B|ack0p> 3?
2247 [19:47:00] <B|ack0p> it is not possible to download all of
them in short time
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2249 [19:47:12] <B|ack0p> does it take long installing if i
connect to internet?
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2251 [19:47:42] <nine09> if you can use bittorrent it'll be
fast
2252 [19:48:35] <B|ack0p> well i will connect to internet while
installing
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2254 [19:49:21] <B|ack0p> what can i do if i install it without
desktop?
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2258 [19:51:00] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: If you can connect your
machine to the internet, using the network installer and letting
that download just the packages you need is the most efficient way.
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2261 [19:51:17] <tw> B|ack0p: server stuff, usually. If you have a
monitor and keyboard plugged in, I'd recommend some kind of
graphical interface, especially if this is your first experience
with linux.
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2263 [19:52:17] <lnslbrty> Hey all, I have a serious problem
regarding the upgrade to debian10. Something went horribly wrong and
I do not know how to fix that.
2264 [19:52:17] <lnslbrty> I ran apt (update|upgrade|dist-upgrade)
successfully. After the dist-upgrade succeeded, apt and aptitude
started to show me that there are 1344 packages updateable but it
can't update the packages since they are broken...
2265 [19:52:17] <lnslbrty> This should not happen, right? Any
hints how to solve this issue?
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2268 [19:52:25] <B|ack0p> tw: not first time but i dont have
enough knowledge
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2270 [19:52:35] <B|ack0p> i have another machine installed ubuntu
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2272 [19:53:12] <Eightynine> I wanted to try Manjaro KDE, wrote
ISO without issues but when I started it wasn't responding to
mouse clicks. I thought it's a bug in Manjaro or maybe despite
no error messages there were issues in ISO/flash drive. Then I
started my installed system which is Debian with Gnome and KDE and I
noticed that KDE is not responding too. How can I find what's
wrong?
2273 [19:53:14] <nine09> just fulscreen the terminal? So it's
like working w/o GUI
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2275 [19:53:30] <B|ack0p> lol yes
2276 [19:53:41] <petn-randall> !bat
2277 [19:53:42] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
2278 [19:53:50] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: Can you provide all the
info above in a single paste? ^^^
2279 [19:54:02] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: will do
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2287 [19:57:36] <lnslbrty> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2290 [19:59:41] <Guest43662> pkexec its such a pain
2291 [19:59:52] <Guest43662> pkexec pcmanfm gives cannot open
display
2292 [20:01:09] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: Check the factoid again,
seems like you missed most parts.
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2295 [20:02:03] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: Also, that's
expected with `apt upgrade`, since it doesn't install or remove
any packages. That's why you need to run `apt dist-upgrade`,
which is the interesting command.
2296 [20:02:05] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: apt-cache for every
packet will generate a lot of output
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2299 [20:02:50] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: I'd rather see the
output of `apt dist-upgrade`, and the `apt-cache policy $foo` of
those packages it complains about (which should only be a few).
2300 [20:03:05] <petn-randall> Don't forget `apt-cache
policy` (without further parameters), too.
2301 [20:03:24] <OS-57466> !10.11.1.133
2302 [20:03:24] <dpkg> 10.11
2303 [20:04:06] <petn-randall> OS-57466: Do you need help?
2304 [20:06:19] <OS-57466> yep, just an hint for the machine
10.11.1.133
2305 [20:06:22] <Guest43662> any alternative to gcolor2 ?
2306 [20:06:23] <diogenes_> Guest43662, pkexec env
DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY /usr/bin/pcmanfm
2307 [20:06:55] <petn-randall> OS-57466: I think you're lost.
This is a Debian support channel.
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2309 [20:07:09] <petn-randall> OS-57466: Maybe look on your local
network?
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2312 [20:08:18] <Guest43662> diogenes_, this work but i also have
to put in openbox menu
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2315 [20:09:02] <diogenes_> Guest43662, ypu can write your own
policy for any app so it will open with plexec aooname.
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2318 [20:09:09] <diogenes_> pkexec*
2319 [20:11:36] <lnslbrty> petn-randall:
replaced-url
2320 [20:12:02] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: libapt-pkg5.0 causes the
issue O_o
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2342 [20:21:28] <kale> do you guys know of a description of how to
store ripped CD's. I'm thinking directory structure,
coverart etc. in a way that media players pick up the art?
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2345 [20:22:40] <jhutchins_wk> Eightynine: It could be the mouse.
Is the console responsive?
2346 [20:22:54] <EmleyMoor> kale: never seen it formally written
down, but rippers like abcde do a good structure
2347 [20:22:58] <jhutchins_wk> Eightynine: Keyboard shortcuts?
2348 [20:23:01] <kale> is there some well defined way to do this
or is it different from player to player?
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2350 [20:23:48] <nexgen> hello
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2352 [20:24:23] <greycat> kale: most of them don't care how
the files are laid out -- they just suck all the metadata (id3 tags,
etc.) out of the files and store it in a database
2353 [20:24:37] <Guest43662> you guys should bring back gcolor2
and leafpad
2354 [20:24:54] <kale> greycat: what about coverart, do they just
pick up .jpg and.pngs found?
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2357 [20:25:46] <greycat> If you buy an MP3 from an actual
copyright holder, the MP3 file usually has some sort of .jpg
embedded inside it.
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2359 [20:26:07] <kale> greycat: hmm... guess lame could do that
too
2360 [20:26:12] <greycat> I've never attempted to make one
like that myself, though I guess it's possible somehow.
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2364 [20:26:54] <kale> hmm nothing in lame manpage
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2369 [20:28:11] <kale> oh "lame --ti" would do it, im
gonna test this :-)
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2371 [20:28:49] <kale> not in manpage though
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2373 [20:30:08] <greycat> I would assume you don't use lame
for this. Some googling suggests ffmpeg could do it, possibly.
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2378 [20:32:13] <Eightynine> Yes, console is working but with
weird artifacts.
2379 [20:32:37] <kale> and there are perl libs for musicbrainz,
looks like i only have to make a small tweak to my old cd ripper
script.
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2381 [20:32:50] <Eightynine> No, interface doesn't respond at
all until I restart SDDM and login again.
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2399 [20:49:01] <Guest43662> diogenes_, wow you can create gksudo
this way
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2403 [20:50:30] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: You're still missing
`apt-cache policy`.
2404 [20:50:57] <humpled> Guest43662: pkexec has replaced gksudo
2405 [20:50:58] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: got it solved, thx for
your help <3
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2408 [20:51:57] <lnslbrty> petn-randall: apt-cache is pretty sweet
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2411 [20:53:54] <Guest43662> humpled, i know but it's a lot
bugged
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2422 [20:59:06] <petn-randall> lnslbrty: What was the issue?
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2431 [21:01:28] <Zathras> anyone aware of any plans (is there is
wiki/webpage where this administrated?) to backport Redmine to
Buster?
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2434 [21:02:13] <nkuttler> ,v redmine
2435 [21:02:15] <judd> Package: redmine on amd64 -- stretch:
3.3.1-4+deb9u2; stretch-security: 3.3.1-4+deb9u2; bullseye: 4.0.4-3;
sid: 4.0.4-3
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2437 [21:02:40] <greycat> ,info redmine --release bullseye
2438 [21:02:41] <judd> Package redmine (web, optional) in
bullseye/amd64: flexible project management web application.
Version: 4.0.4-3; Size: 1136.2k; Installed: 8924k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2440 [21:02:57] <nkuttler> ,checkbackport redmine
2441 [21:02:58] <judd> Backporting package redmine in
sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12), ruby-rouge (>= 3.7.0).
2442 [21:03:26] <Zathras> ah. outch
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2444 [21:03:55] <Zathras> thanks. Pitty
2445 [21:04:01] <nkuttler> debphelper shouldn't be a too big
problem i guess, but no idea about ruby
2446 [21:04:30] <Zathras> most backported ruby packages atm seem
to be handled by a single person
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2448 [21:04:47] <jhutchins_wk> .
2449 [21:05:02] <nkuttler> fwiw, if ruby has its own packaging
system, i would just see if you can install ruby with the packaged
ruby version..
2450 [21:05:11] <nkuttler> install redmine
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2453 [21:05:41] <Zathras> true. Personally I hate alternative
package systems. Makes systems messy
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2455 [21:06:04] <nkuttler> depends on your needs i guess
2456 [21:06:17] <nkuttler> i don't mind installing stuff from
other sources that is user space only
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2458 [21:06:35] <nkuttler> (and doesn't affect users who
don't use it)
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2462 [21:07:19] <Zathras> ah. Informative:
replaced-url
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2466 [21:07:49] <Zathras> Pirate Praveen was/is the person I
referred to
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2492 [21:19:05] <slee> hi again, when i go to settings > mouse
> devices: i choose my mouse from the drop down menu, then hit
close, but when i go back to same setting, it has my mouse back at
MosArt M32 00500 Usb K+M Mouse....why isn't it remembering my
mouse device?
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2543 [21:56:27] <B|ack0p> hi
2544 [21:56:33] <B|ack0p> just installed debian with graphics
2545 [21:56:49] <B|ack0p> how can i be sure if wifi driver is
installed?
2546 [21:57:01] <B|ack0p> probably not installed as it is non-free
driver
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2548 [21:57:10] <B|ack0p> i am connected via ethernet cable now
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2555 [21:57:41] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: THere's probably a
network icon in your taskbar.
2556 [21:57:53] <B|ack0p> when i check settings Network there is
no wifi
2557 [21:57:56] <somiaj> B|ack0p: what wifi chipset do you have?
2558 [21:57:56] <B|ack0p> only wired
2559 [21:58:03] <B|ack0p> intel wifi link 5100
2560 [21:58:10] <somiaj> B|ack0p: the wifi driver is probablay
installed, but you most likely need the non-free firmware
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2562 [21:58:18] <B|ack0p> probably
2563 [21:58:23] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: That makes sense if you
haven't set it up yet.
2564 [21:58:25] <B|ack0p> so how can i install non free?
2565 [21:58:36] <somiaj> B|ack0p: 'dmesg | grep -i
firmware' will let you know of errors loading firmware, you
most likely need the firmware-iwlwifi package from non-free for that
intel card
2566 [21:58:38] <jhutchins_wk> Intell doesn't usually need
firmware.
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2568 [21:58:51] <somiaj> their wifi almost always does
2569 [21:59:04] <jhutchins_wk> Mine hasn't. ymmv
2570 [21:59:04] <greycat> their video chipsets typically do as
well, for modesetting
2571 [21:59:15] <greycat> at least the relatively recent ones
2572 [21:59:21] <B|ack0p> ~$ dmesg | grep -i firmwaredmesg: read
kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted
2573 [21:59:31] <greycat> as root.
2574 [21:59:35] <B|ack0p> ok
2575 [21:59:40] <somiaj> I think there are various (at least in
the US) FCC laws around wifi requing corps like intel to keep some
pieces closed, hence that is what the firmware is for.
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2577 [21:59:56] <B|ack0p> user is not sudoer
2578 [22:00:00] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: Most changes that will
affect the whole system/all users will be done as root.
2579 [22:00:05] <greycat> use su, then
2580 [22:00:10] <somiaj> mostly around power and frequency
settings
2581 [22:00:15] <jhutchins_wk> su -
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2585 [22:00:55] <somiaj> I think it is annoying dmesg dosn't
work as a normal user anymore, but I guess there are security
concerns by a normal user being able to snoop
hardware/drivers/kernel info
2586 [22:01:04] <B|ack0p> ok this is dmesg:
replaced-url
2587 [22:01:45] <somiaj> B|ack0p: yea, firware for the iwlwifi
driver is nto present, install firmware-iwlwifi from non-free for
that card
2588 [22:01:58] <B|ack0p> how to install?
2589 [22:02:17] <jhutchins_wk> !iwlwifi
2590 [22:02:18] <dpkg> The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports
several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N,
Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me
about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi
package to provide. Supported devices and troubleshooting hints are
listed at
replaced-url
2591 [22:02:24] <somiaj> !non-free
2592 [22:02:24] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains
software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free
packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free
sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me
about <non-free list>.
2593 [22:02:32] <somiaj> !non-free sources
2594 [22:02:32] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the
two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib
non-free" rather than just "main", then
«apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be
installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms;
check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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2596 [22:02:46] <somiaj> B|ack0p: ^^ add non-free sources, then
'apt install firmware-iwlwifi'
2597 [22:02:49] <somiaj> (well apt update first too)
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2599 [22:03:47] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: What's the New User
Guide?
2600 [22:03:55] <jhutchins_wk> s/what/where
2601 [22:04:23] <Ankman> B|ack0p: another way is to call
/sbin/ifconfig -a and see if a WIFI device shows up
2602 [22:04:41] <somiaj> new user guide? Not ringing a bell.
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2604 [22:04:57] <somiaj> !debian handbook
2605 [22:04:57] <dpkg> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is
at
replaced-url
2606 [22:05:01] <somiaj> jhutchins_wk: ^^ that?
2607 [22:05:02] <Ankman> if it shows up without "-a"
it's already initilized
2608 [22:05:11] <greycat> still says Jessie in the title :-/
2609 [22:05:27] <somiaj> Ankman: 'ip a' is probably
better these days
2610 [22:05:44] <somiaj> greycat: yea, handbook is good, but it
needs updated.
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2612 [22:05:57] <somiaj> it is still mostly relvent, only a few
thinsg that probably need updated.
2613 [22:06:16] <Ankman> somiaj: yes, but i not dealt much with
"ip" and am more familiar with ifconfig :-)
2614 [22:06:45] <B|ack0p> how to insert this? # modprobe -r
iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi
2615 [22:06:46] <somiaj> Ankman: yup, just pointing out, as we
slowly move away from the depericated tools..
2616 [22:06:52] <Ankman> :-)
2617 [22:07:00] <somiaj> B|ack0p: that works, or you can reboot if
you like the windows delima
2618 [22:07:10] <B|ack0p> let me reboot then
2619 [22:07:26] <Ankman> there should be no reboot necessary...
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2621 [22:08:00] <Ankman> it's linux not a freaking windows...
;-)
2622 [22:08:14] <somiaj> nope, B|ack0p modeprobe command would
have worked, but with many users suggestion a reboot is far easier.
"Have you turend it off and back on again?"
2623 [22:08:15] <B|ack0p> how will i find out if non free firmware
installed properly?
2624 [22:08:18] <jhutchins_wk> Ankman: How, then, do you go about
loading firmware?
2625 [22:08:20] <annadane> well, for firmware installation you
probably should reboot
2626 [22:08:29] <B|ack0p> somiaj it gave error
2627 [22:08:35] <somiaj> jhutchins_wk: removing the module,
reloading it should work
2628 [22:08:50] <Ankman> somiaj: i see you like the series The IT
Crowd :-) so do i
2629 [22:08:50] <somiaj> B|ack0p: what error? that 'dmesg |
grep -i firmware' should let you know if it was loaded or not
2630 [22:08:55] <B|ack0p> bash: modprobe: command not found
2631 [22:09:04] <Ankman> B|ack0p: be root
2632 [22:09:08] <B|ack0p> i am root
2633 [22:09:12] <annadane> it won't be loaded if the user
didn't reboot
2634 [22:09:14] <Ankman> wow!
2635 [22:09:16] <somiaj> !su buster
2636 [22:09:24] <annadane> what error does it give you
specifically, post your output
2637 [22:09:27] <annadane> paste.debian.net
2638 [22:09:27] <somiaj> B|ack0p: you need to use 'su -'
not 'su' when becoming root to get a full enviroment.
2639 [22:09:32] <greycat> !buster su
2640 [22:09:32] <dpkg> To start an interactive session with
<su>, you should use "su -l" or "su -";
this has always been the case, but is now enforced in Debian 10
'buster', where the PATH is no longer reset in
non-interactive sessions. Alternatively, you can ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes
in /etc/login.defs. See
replaced-url
2641 [22:09:39] <B|ack0p> i am already su
2642 [22:09:41] <B|ack0p> i am root
2643 [22:09:44] <somiaj> greycat: my poor dyslixia
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2645 [22:09:49] <greycat> Gods, people besmirching perfectly good
factoids.
2646 [22:09:51] <B|ack0p> ok
2647 [22:09:52] <annadane> oh, modprobe. i can't read, sorry
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2649 [22:10:01] <somiaj> B|ack0p: notice the subtle differnce
between using 'su -' and 'su'
2650 [22:10:05] <greycat> The fucking red hat culture is going to
win, because there are so damned *many* of them.
2651 [22:10:20] <Ankman> can't believe modprobe is not
available as root. that would f**k up the whole system
2652 [22:10:23] <B|ack0p> ok done now
2653 [22:10:24] <B|ack0p> no error
2654 [22:10:42] <somiaj> Ankman: its because of 'su' vs
'su -', and having a full root enviorment (PATH variable)
2655 [22:10:43] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: Now you will need to
configure the connection.
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2657 [22:11:00] <greycat> Do I even want to *bother*? :( :(
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2660 [22:11:30] <Ankman> B|ack0p: see if "ip a" lists
the device
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2664 [22:13:01] <Ankman> if you have the NetworkManager installed
you should see an icon on your desktop. click it and selct to
connect. find your WIFI and click it. provide you password and you
should be online
2665 [22:13:01] <B|ack0p62> back on wifi !
2666 [22:13:03] <B|ack0p62> thx a lot
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2668 [22:13:10] <Ankman> nice to hear
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2670 [22:13:23] <B|ack0p62> in dmesg i saw Broadcom Bluetooth also
needed firmware i guess
2671 [22:14:00] <greycat> generally it's a good idea to
supply whatever firmware files it wants, just in case you ever use
that device in the future
2672 [22:14:04] <Ankman> most likely
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2682 [22:16:10] <B|ack0p62> this is my full dmesg:
replaced-url
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2685 [22:18:16] <B|ack0p62> what about adding non-free all of the
items in sources.list?
2686 [22:18:26] <greycat> add contrib, too
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2688 [22:18:28] <B|ack0p62>
replaced-url
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2690 [22:19:00] <Zathras> I am trying to resolve an issue with
'dehydrated'. Do not get errors/loginfo, so how do you get
a similar extensive output like this?
replaced-url
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2692 [22:19:10] <somiaj> B|ack0p62: line 11 is a repeate of lines
1 and 2, remove line 11, and replace 'main' with
'main contrib non-free' on all the sources there.
2693 [22:19:19] <greycat> why do you not get errors/loginfo?
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2695 [22:19:30] <greycat> Mine is set up to log to a file, I
believe...
2696 [22:19:32] <somiaj> B|ack0p62: also why did you use stretch
and not buster, you may have the stretch firmware, and should update
to the version in buster.
2697 [22:19:44] <B|ack0p62> hmmm
2698 [22:19:52] <B|ack0p62> i pasted what is written in the link
2699 [22:19:58] <B|ack0p62> can i change now?
2700 [22:19:59] <Zathras> greycat, no idea how to do that. The
original does not support logging afaik
2701 [22:20:13] <greycat> 6 23 * * * root dehydrated -c >>
/var/log/dehydrated 2>&1
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2703 [22:20:33] <Zathras> and I did not see anything in messages
or syslog
2704 [22:20:52] <greycat> Check root's mail, then, if you are
using crontab to run it.
2705 [22:20:52] <Zathras> I am currently testing from commandline.
not yet in cron
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2707 [22:21:24] <somiaj> B|ack0p62: yes, I would do the changes I
suggested to your sources.list, remove line 11, replace
'main' with 'main contrib non-free'
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2709 [22:21:48] <B|ack0p62> somiaj thx i will do that
2710 [22:23:43] <B|ack0p62> connection is very slow :S
2711 [22:24:59] <Zathras> I get the same output: names of the
config files being parsed and that is about it
2712 [22:25:31] <Zathras> The output in the link I gave is way
much more verbose
2713 [22:25:45] <B|ack0p62> i am having keyboard and mouse lags
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2715 [22:25:57] <B|ack0p62> is it because of gnome or what?
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2719 [22:29:02] <somiaj> That seems odd, I would start by running
'top'. Is some process eating up all your resources?
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2721 [22:29:50] <Zathras> wireless/bt keyboard/mouse and running
out of battery?
2722 [22:31:45] <B|ack0p62> web content
2723 [22:31:48] <Zathras> my issue with dehydrated is that I
cannot revoke or renew certs so it seems. However I do not get
errors
2724 [22:31:49] <B|ack0p62> gnome shell
2725 [22:31:53] <B|ack0p62> pulseaudio
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2727 [22:32:13] <B|ack0p62> gnome shell number 1
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2729 [22:33:35] <B|ack0p62> i installed every desktops and i can
see everything installed 3 times :p
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2731 [22:33:40] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p62: Don't tell us,
figure it out. What's using resources? Is it using a lot? Is
the CPU load high? Is the amount of swap varying?
2732 [22:34:11] <B|ack0p62> well i can say it is running more
heavy than ubuntu..
2733 [22:34:24] <somiaj> io traffice can also cause lots of lags
if things are waiting for the io bus, system sometimes comes to a
halt or lags.
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2735 [22:35:08] <B|ack0p62> i will test other desktops
2736 [22:35:09] <B|ack0p62> bbl
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2740 [22:36:08] <jhutchins_wk> Really more suited to Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is proof of what happens when you do too much for the user
and don't tell them or make them learn anything.
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2743 [22:37:25] <somiaj> I almost wonder if it is a gpu missing
firmware for full kms/compostor support.
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2745 [22:37:37] <somiaj> was gonna suggest checking graphics
driver next
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2748 [22:39:01] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: If the display works,
normal usage shouldn't lag because of that. That would affect
things like games and movies.
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2752 [22:39:36] <somiaj> jhutchins_wk: one would think, but
gnome-shell uses a compositor, which does often use some sort of gpu
acceleration.
2753 [22:39:41] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: With graphics drivers, you
usually either get the blinking cursor, VESA resolution, or it
works.
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2755 [22:39:56] <somiaj> kde plasma is another, it will lag if you
don't have the kms driver loaded propertly.
2756 [22:40:03] <somiaj> xfce/lxde/mate, these won't matter
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2759 [22:40:28] <B|ack0p> every desktop runs faster except gnome
2760 [22:40:39] <B|ack0p> even gnome classic a bit laggy comparing
others
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2762 [22:40:51] <somiaj> B|ack0p: what graphics card do you have.
You may not have the firmware/driver setup for full accelration
support.
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2764 [22:40:55] <jhutchins_wk> Oh, yeh, well if you have cube
switching and JIGGLY WINDOWS!!! it will.
2765 [22:41:03] <B|ack0p> somiaj: ah might be. it is intel also
2766 [22:41:09] <B|ack0p> i have old Thinkpad x61s
2767 [22:41:12] <B|ack0p> with L7500 cpu
2768 [22:41:17] <B|ack0p> intel gpu x3100 something
2769 [22:41:26] <somiaj> greycat mentioned you might need firmware
for some intel cards, I'm not that familar with them, so unsure
what package would be useful.
2770 [22:41:51] <towo`> skylake and later needs firmware
2771 [22:42:17] <B|ack0p> is there any driver can i use for intel
gpu?
2772 [22:42:18] <somiaj> I see some firmware for various intel
devices in firmware-misc-nonfree package.
2773 [22:42:30] <B|ack0p> somiaj: how to install?
2774 [22:42:39] <towo`> x1300 is not skylake or later
2775 [22:42:46] <greycat> usually I look at the actual firmware
filenames that dmesg says it's missing, then use judd or
packages.debian.org to find out what pkg has those files
2776 [22:42:47] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: More than one depending on
what chipset.
2777 [22:42:48] <B|ack0p> x3100 probably
2778 [22:42:51] <towo`> this gpu does not need firmware
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2780 [22:43:04] <somiaj> B|ack0p: maybe the laptop is just too old
for some of these modern desktops, use xfce or lxde would be my
sugestion.
2781 [22:43:17] <greycat> yeah, if it's an "older"
intel, it won't need firmware
2782 [22:43:20] <B|ack0p> here is the specs of my laptop:
replaced-url
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2784 [22:43:45] <B|ack0p> somiaj: well everybody told same for my
Thinkpad T60 but this is newer than it :/
2785 [22:44:00] <B|ack0p> linux suppose to support old devices
better than windows
2786 [22:44:08] <towo`> it does
2787 [22:44:23] <B|ack0p> but i had many problems with my 2006
model thinkpad and now this
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2789 [22:44:29] <towo`> but then you have to use moderate
desktops, not heavywight ones
2790 [22:44:44] <B|ack0p> i am on gnome classic now
2791 [22:44:48] <somiaj> It does, you aren't forced to use
the biggest/flashist destkops. But gnome-shell and kde-plasma are
very resource intensive, sometimes even more so than windows, so
using another desktop would be my suggestion.
2792 [22:45:11] <somiaj> B|ack0p: many like mate, it is a fork of
the old gnome2 for those who like gnome.
2793 [22:45:12] <towo`> B|ack0p, gnome is heavywight
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2795 [22:45:20] <towo`> even the classic
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2797 [22:45:21] <somiaj> cinnimon is also a bit ligher one.
2798 [22:45:22] <B|ack0p> just i couldnt solve this keyboard and
mouse lag
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2802 [22:45:46] <mutante> another vote for MATE desktop, you get
gnome2 continued
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2804 [22:47:07] <Unit193> Cinnamon is considered lightweight..?
2805 [22:47:30] <towo`> no
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2808 [22:48:01] <somiaj> Unit193: ligher than
gnome-shell/kde-plasma I think (I don't use any desktop so only
go off of info I have read)
2809 [22:48:02] <kale> black/flux-box or what about twm :-)
2810 [22:48:10] <somiaj> but heavier than mate/xfce/lxde
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2813 [22:48:17] <B|ack0p> another question how can i disable
splash/background image of grub menu to default blue one?
2814 [22:48:17] <Ankman> xfce
2815 [22:48:21] <towo`> and btw, Intel 965GM is crap
2816 [22:48:32] <B|ack0p> towo`: is it my chipset?
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2819 [22:48:35] <somiaj> kale: fvwm for life here )"
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2821 [22:48:38] <somiaj> (:
2822 [22:48:52] <towo`> B|ack0p, yes, it's your grapics
device
2823 [22:49:00] <B|ack0p> yea it is old
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2826 [22:49:44] <somiaj> B|ack0p: you will have a much better
experience using an older desktop (or just a light wight wm).
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2829 [22:50:07] <B|ack0p> somiaj: older with new distro you mean
or old distro with old desktop?
2830 [22:50:11] <Ankman> B|ack0p: changing is just of cosmetic
nature. why would you want to do this?
2831 [22:50:13] <B|ack0p> i am currently on gnome classic
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2833 [22:50:36] <B|ack0p> Ankman: i like grub screen without
background it looks more cool with blue
2834 [22:50:42] <B|ack0p> changing what?
2835 [22:50:50] <B|ack0p> i m confused sorry
2836 [22:50:57] <somiaj> B|ack0p: new distro, with older desktop,
in linux you have a lot of choice, but sometimes on older hardware
you have to choose the less flashy graphical enviorments.
2837 [22:51:14] <B|ack0p> somiaj: is gnome classic good?
2838 [22:51:17] <B|ack0p> it is fine now
2839 [22:51:20] <B|ack0p> not much lag i face
2840 [22:51:47] <somiaj> if it works for you
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2842 [22:51:58] <B|ack0p> i may give another try to mate later
2843 [22:52:02] <somiaj> use what you like, but if you find it
laggy it could be due to the age of your hardware.
2844 [22:52:10] <aruiz> is there a command to get the platform
triad? say x86_64-linux-gnu?
2845 [22:52:10] <B|ack0p> maybe
2846 [22:52:19] <somiaj> aruiz: uname -a should list the kernel
2847 [22:52:26] <kale> is enlightenment still at play? or did they
stall between 16 and e17?
2848 [22:52:41] <somiaj> aruiz: dpkg --print-architecture will
list the default arcetcure of your userland
2849 [22:52:48] <B|ack0p> how can i disable grub background?
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2851 [22:53:02] <somiaj> kale: its still out there, though they
have stalled a bit
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2853 [22:53:38] <somiaj> ,v e17
2854 [22:53:39] <judd> Package: e17 on amd64 -- jessie: 0.17.6-1;
stretch: 0.17.6-1.1+b1; bullseye: 0.22.4-2; buster: 0.22.4-2; sid:
0.22.4-2
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2856 [22:53:53] <somiaj> kale: seems they have been with e17 since
at least jessie
2857 [22:54:00] <kale> heard one of the dev ran with software
rendering by mistake, but didn't notice 'cause e17 was so
fast
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2861 [22:54:28] <jhutchins_wk> I think it was yesterday I posted a
link to a "12 best linux desktops" article, mainly to
point out that there are enough different choices to make a 12 best
list.
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2864 [22:55:12] <kale> danish lug "SSLUG" had a 24
desktop environments christmas calender one year...
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2866 [22:56:09] <jhutchins_wk> aruiz: uname -a will probably give
you what you need too.
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2915 [23:24:27] <gettype> hi
2916 [23:24:47] <gettype> Why i cant get to variable like this:
echo '1"2"3"4"' | x="$(cut -d
'"' -f 3)" | echo $
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2919 [23:26:35] <fearnothing> hey
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2921 [23:27:18] <fearnothing> I have a question concerning
packages built from source: if I want to install a later version, is
there anything particular I need to do to be sure it will not
conflict with the existing version?
2922 [23:27:25] <fearnothing> do I need to completely remove the
old one first?
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2925 [23:27:55] <Habbie> fearnothing, if the package has the same
name, dpkg will understand that it replaces what you had
2926 [23:28:24] <mutante> just make sure the version number is
higher
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2928 [23:29:21] <Habbie> that does simplify a lot of things
2929 [23:29:30] <Habbie> but it's not a requirement for
avoiding conflicts between the two versions
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2932 [23:30:32] <fearnothing> thanks
2933 [23:30:47] <fearnothing> sadly debian's repos are a bit
behind the version I need :)
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2936 [23:32:03] <dudebr> good night, i am unable to boot from my
usb now and have a broken apt, i wonder if is there a way to fix the
apt
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2951 [23:40:12] <dudebr>
replaced-url
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2959 [23:43:45] <dudebr> i tryed a fresh installation but the lap
has a somewhat troubled bios the refuses to boot from my pendrive
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2961 [23:44:38] <OerHeks> run update first, fresh lists
2962 [23:44:39] <dudebr> if i only could fix the apt somehow
2963 [23:45:26] <dudebr> OerHeks i runned update first
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2968 [23:49:02] *** BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK
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2984 [23:54:28] <dudebr> looks like a boostrap trick reintall the
installer
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2994 [23:59:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1541
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