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26 [00:18:40] <rafuch0> Hi there
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28 [00:19:03] <rafuch0> i sent an email to debian books no
awnser . . .
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30 [00:19:38] <rafuch0> need to change my email addrs in here
--- >
replaced-url
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##replaced-url
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41 [00:22:50] <tomreyn> rafuch0: according to
replaced-url
42 [00:22:55] <tomreyn> maybe try debian-replaced-url
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47 [00:31:21] <rafuch0> thanks tomreyn gonna try there
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53 [00:33:57] <tomreyn> welcome ;) i'm not reall yinvolve
din debian, though, just copied this address form the page you
linked to.
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84 [00:58:11] <firef1y> *sigh* why is the answer always,
"Install Debian"...
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86 [00:58:31] <firef1y> it's like nobody else can make a
decent operating system...
87 [01:00:00] <missmbob> so stop using others. sounds easy
enough.
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93 [01:04:11] <shadoxx> firef1y: what's the issue? if you
know how to use them, all linux OSes can get the job done
94 [01:04:16] <shadoxx> :D
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202 [02:31:34] <neo_> hi people, I am upgrading stretch, in
sources.list I have only repository what I used to install, but
synaptic warn me that I am installing some NON AUTHENTICATED
packages ... some ideas what is it happening and how to solve it ?
do you need some extra info to know what happens ?
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205 [02:32:21] <madaboutjessie> hello can you tell me how to use
fsck?
206 [02:32:45] <neo_> man fsck
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208 [02:33:41] <madaboutjessie> the fact is that I typed sudo
shutdown -s now and next time i booted i hacve this error:
unexpected inconsistency run fsck manually
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210 [02:34:10] <madaboutjessie> sould I say no to ignore and yes
tro fix?
211 [02:34:53] <madaboutjessie> also should i use the debian
install cd?
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215 [02:36:41] <neo_> i think it is a good idea to turn off the
system and use an external device to start a linux system and run
fsck on your hard disk
216 [02:36:44] <missmbob> what do you think -s does in that
instance? hit yes
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224 [02:39:15] <madaboutjessie> neo: ok
225 [02:39:46] <madaboutjessie> missmbob: yes to fix and no to
ignore?
226 [02:40:28] <missmbob> do what neo_ said
227 [02:41:43] <madaboutjessie> can be that external device that
neo says a Debian install cd?
228 [02:41:59] <madaboutjessie> or must it be a separate hd
intallation?
229 [02:42:34] <madaboutjessie> because i dont have the seccond a
priopri
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231 [02:43:57] <madaboutjessie> *priori
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235 [02:45:18] <missmbob> install media is fine
236 [02:45:28] <madaboutjessie> ok
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240 [02:46:30] <madaboutjessie> could this have to be with the
fact that i disabled tty service??
241 [02:47:07] <madaboutjessie> or is just a random system hang?
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243 [02:48:00] <neo_> madabout...: I think is a problem of
orphans inodes on your HD
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246 [02:48:32] <neo_> run fsck, boot again and it should be
solved
247 [02:48:37] <madaboutjessie> im lazyyyy!
248 [02:48:55] <neo_> XD XD XD
249 [02:49:04] <madaboutjessie> search boot cd..
250 [02:49:25] <madaboutjessie> and type "y" a google
times
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252 [02:49:34] <madaboutjessie> *gogol
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254 [02:49:46] <neo_> you can use any other portable linux system
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256 [02:50:07] <madaboutjessie> if i only had telnet running
257 [02:50:29] <madaboutjessie> but telnet service also stopped
with that rerror
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259 [02:51:20] <neo_> download an small and easy to install
distro and install on a pendrive and ready
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261 [02:51:39] <madaboutjessie> what if i use recovery mode?
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263 [02:52:27] <neo_> the problem is you are using tools from the
bad system, you can make the problem bigger
264 [02:52:34] <tfgbd_znc> My lxde window manager disapeared and
won't run when x starts anymore
265 [02:52:36] <madaboutjessie> ok
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267 [02:52:58] <madaboutjessie> I will have a shower meanwhile i
fix it
268 [02:53:03] <tfgbd_znc> so now I have borderless windows ever
time I start debian
269 [02:53:16] <tfgbd_znc> any ideas?
270 [02:53:20] <neo_> madabout...: XD XD XD
271 [02:53:24] <madaboutjessie> reinstall lxde
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273 [02:53:51] <tfgbd_znc> i need to do that much?
274 [02:53:56] <madaboutjessie> sudo apt-get purge lxde
275 [02:54:13] <madaboutjessie> sudo apt get install lxde
276 [02:54:22] <madaboutjessie> im not sure
277 [02:54:33] <neo_> i think is ok
278 [02:54:33] <madaboutjessie> ask some more experienced user
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280 [02:54:50] <tfgbd_znc> also, this is running in a
debbootstrap install running in a chroot on Android
281 [02:54:50] <madaboutjessie> that is what id do
282 [02:55:25] <tfgbd_znc> I'm afraid I may break my whole
install if I do that
283 [02:56:05] <madaboutjessie> but you risk loosing integration
284 [02:56:13] <madaboutjessie> do what neo says
285 [02:56:30] <tfgbd_znc> i ccan easily fix it by just typing
openbox-lxde ii a terminal window
286 [02:56:37] <tfgbd_znc> in*
287 [02:57:02] <tfgbd_znc> I figure I need to add that back
somewhere but I'm not sure where
288 [02:59:04] <neo_> you can ask here:
289 [02:59:05] <neo_>
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293 [03:01:26] <uxfi> achooo
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295 [03:02:25] <neo_> I people, cam somebody help me please ? ...
296 [03:02:28] <neo_> I am upgrading stretch, in sources.list I
have only repository what I used to install, but synaptic warn me
that I am installing some NON AUTHENTICATED packages ... some ideas
what is it happening and how to solve it ? do you need some extra
info to know what happens ?
297 [03:03:17] <missmbob> ask #debian-next on oftc. that's
the testing/sid channel
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302 [03:05:03] <neo_> missmbob. ok, thanks a lot
303 [03:05:46] <madaboutjessie> I have installed a telnet
service, disabled tty service and runned vlc on telnet tio play
random videos from youtube 24/7
304 [03:06:01] <madaboutjessie> that computer has a 500w cpu
305 [03:06:16] <madaboutjessie> do you wanna know my ellectricty
bill?
306 [03:06:28] <missmbob> !chat
307 [03:06:28] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a
Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support
question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or
##chat on irc.freenode.net.
308 [03:06:45] <madaboutjessie> equal to plus 500watts all day
all night
309 [03:06:50] <madaboutjessie> is that normal?
310 [03:07:17] <madaboutjessie> is any way of doing the same and
save energy?
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313 [03:07:54] <madaboutjessie> missambob is a Debian system
314 [03:08:13] <madaboutjessie> so how can i make Debianm save
more energy?
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316 [03:10:52] <tfgbd_znc> it' clearly a bug in my
deployment system
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337 [03:23:21] <TomG2> madaboutjessie, that's a good
question, have you searched the web or viewed wiki.debian.org ?
maybe they have something already
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340 [03:24:12] <madaboutjessie> thtere is that media center
diistro i did not try
341 [03:24:20] <madaboutjessie> hows its name?
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343 [03:25:29] <madaboutjessie> a computer shouldnt use 500watts
just for play videos
344 [03:26:01] <dvs> depends on the video card
345 [03:27:20] <madaboutjessie> nvidia ghforce
346 [03:27:27] <madaboutjessie> 5x
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349 [03:29:15] <madaboutjessie> i will be buried with that gpu
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351 [03:31:09] <dodo> Hello, I'm trying to install Debian
Jessie 8.8.0 using an USB Flash drive with an i386 netinstall image
disc (was created with UNetbootin tool). When I turn on my system
with the Flash drive plugged in, I see three booting options related
to the drive, but only the one that says "UEFI: SanDisk U3
Cruzer Micro 2.18" works. It displays the grub menu. In that
menu, no matter which installer option I select, it gets freeze.
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353 [03:31:29] <dvs> !unetbootin
354 [03:31:29] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer)
allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux
distributions.
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357 [03:31:58] <dodo> damn... that was fast.
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359 [03:32:04] <dodo> thanks dvs
360 [03:32:23] <missmbob> are you on windows or linux when you
create the usb?
361 [03:32:43] <dvs> missmbob, I suspect Windows with unetbootin
362 [03:32:45] <dodo> I'm in a Jessie machine
363 [03:32:50] <dvs> oh?
364 [03:32:53] <sptnx> for creating bootable usb from iso i think
rufus is best
365 [03:32:57] <missmbob> then just use cp.
366 [03:32:59] <missmbob> !rufus
367 [03:33:00] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make
bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use
with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and
unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about
<hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
368 [03:33:04] <dodo> the cp?
369 [03:33:04] <missmbob> no rufus
370 [03:33:09] <dodo> maybe a 'dd'
371 [03:33:13] <missmbob> cp foo.iso /dev/sdx
372 [03:33:14] <dvs> that too
373 [03:33:16] <missmbob> dd works too
374 [03:33:17] <dodo> or not?
375 [03:33:19] <dodo> ok
376 [03:33:21] <dodo> will try that
377 [03:33:25] <dodo> thanks
378 [03:33:49] <dodo> cp foo.iso /dev/sdx, does it really work?
379 [03:34:00] <missmbob> yes. it's what the install guide
suggests
380 [03:34:03] <dvs> dodo, if you do a sync afterwards
381 [03:34:32] <dodo> I have never seen that, but now that I read
/dev/sda, I think that it should work.
382 [03:34:33] <dodo> thanks
383 [03:34:37] <missmbob> and use a real iso. not live
384 [03:34:55] <dodo> I'm going to use the netinstall disc
385 [03:35:23] <dvs> over wifi?
386 [03:35:34] <dodo> rj45
387 [03:35:38] <dvs> cool
388 [03:35:43] <tfgbd_znc> my problem just fixed itself. I have
no idea how
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390 [03:36:30] <tfgbd_znc> i deleted a deployment config and
suddenly my lxde went back to normal
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409 [03:51:02] <madaboutjessie> I dont have fsck on the ibstall
shell
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411 [03:51:33] <madaboutjessie> can I use an arch-linux live cd?
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416 [03:54:09] <missmbob> !rescue mode
417 [03:54:09] <dpkg> Debian-Installer has a recovery
('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB
or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the <install guide>
("Recovering a Broken System") for more details:
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418 [03:54:25] <missmbob> but yes, arch live will work just as
well
419 [03:54:43] <madaboutjessie> oh yess!
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454 [04:17:50] <Koyaanisqatsi`> after the latest update on debian
stretch, mate desktop can no longer change the desktop background
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461 [04:20:44] <missmbob> ask #debian-next on oftc
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494 [04:42:19] <madaboutjessie> couldnt start journal...
495 [04:42:31] <madaboutjessie> fsck exited 1
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499 [04:44:29] <GottaGoFast> hi
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501 [04:45:08] <GottaGoFast> sudo mount -o remount, rw /dev/sdc1
> dmesg | tail 30 >
502 [04:45:27] <GottaGoFast> sudo mount -o remount, rw /dev/sdc1
> dmesg | tail > "[sdc] Attached SCSI removable
disk"
503 [04:45:37] <GottaGoFast> how do i mount it as rw?
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588 [05:50:29] <nickgaw> Hi, In my bios my system has an option
to turn on secure EFI booting should I turn this option on?
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590 [05:51:52] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. So, how far off is Stretch
these days?
591 [05:52:03] <nickgaw> If I turn this option for EFI booting
will my system still boot with the MBR hard drive configuration?
592 [05:52:11] <TomG2> nickgaw, i don't know. but hang
around, someone will
593 [05:52:47] <AlexLikeRock_> Lady_Aleena, stretch must be ready
, when they are ready ;-)
594 [05:52:52] <AlexLikeRock_> take calm
595 [05:53:13] <Lady_Aleena> AlexLikeRock_, okey dokey.
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597 [05:53:49] <AlexLikeRock_> nickgaw, EFI , must turn off ,
before install windows
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599 [05:54:24] <nickgaw> So if I turn it on now will my system be
able to work or can I reconfigure it to work?
600 [05:54:49] <nickgaw> This laptop is linux only
601 [05:55:41] <AlexLikeRock_> im not shure, nickgaw ask to
somiaj
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606 [05:58:04] <hf_hashmon> secure efi sounds to me to be a
password protected boot
607 [05:58:20] <hf_hashmon> but don't take my word for it
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610 [05:58:46] <nickgaw> The option in the bios setup is called
UEFI and it is currently turned off so the system boots with a
master boot record.
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612 [05:59:37] <Lady_Aleena> AlexLikeRock_, just fyi,
s/shure/sure/; # 8)
613 [06:00:18] <TomG2> secure EFI is some thing to keep Microsoft
operating systems safe from viruses if I am correct, but also it
makes linux installs more difficult
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617 [06:00:24] <AlexLikeRock_> tanks
618 [06:00:39] <hf_hashmon> i have one laptop that boots uefi
pain it the butt if you ask me good ol mbr works good enough
619 [06:00:44] <Lady_Aleena> AlexLikeRock_, yw
620 [06:01:02] <nickgaw> So does linux work with UEFI at all?
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623 [06:01:18] <hf_hashmon> but with that said i have debian win7
and win10 all on same hdd
624 [06:01:29] <AlexLikeRock_> TomG2, , the reality , its
micro$oft make UEFY to block other OS on hardware and not boot
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626 [06:01:34] <hf_hashmon> it does for me
627 [06:01:56] <TomG2> yes, linux works with (U)EFI
628 [06:01:59] <AlexLikeRock_> uefi its easy , the problem are
SECURE-SHIT
629 [06:02:34] <nickgaw> So debian does not support secure UEFI?
630 [06:02:46] <hf_hashmon> not sure on that one
631 [06:02:48] <TomG2> nickgaw, see
replaced-url
632 [06:02:55] <AlexLikeRock_> uefi = yes
633 [06:02:56] <AlexLikeRock_> secure boot = NO
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635 [06:03:16] <AlexLikeRock_> must to change to LEGACY to work
both
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637 [06:03:34] <nickgaw> So should I just leave my system as it
is with a MBR?
638 [06:03:52] <hf_hashmon> if it works id would
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644 [06:05:15] <hf_hashmon> if you already have an os installed
and you change it most likley it wont boot as there was no efi boot
record for your os
645 [06:05:49] <nickgaw> I will leave my system as it is was just
asking if I should change the setting.
646 [06:06:15] <AlexLikeRock_> cool
647 [06:06:20] <hf_hashmon> word
648 [06:07:05] <hf_hashmon> I need a smoke
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654 [06:12:14] <nickgaw> Do any organizations support debian in a
paid ethod where you could pay them to help you maintain the system
if you have major issues with things?
655 [06:12:43] <bit1> nickgaw, Hello, I think so
656 [06:13:33] <bit1> nickgaw,
replaced-url
657 [06:13:50] <nickgaw> which ones and would they support a home
user if I wanted their services?
658 [06:14:41] <somiaj> nickgaw: debian doesn't support
secure boot, you will need to keep that disabled
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660 [06:15:20] <hf_hashmon> wish i could get paid I do shiz for
fun
661 [06:16:26] <hf_hashmon> just got muh cluster up ready for
scaling just no funds
662 [06:16:39] <hf_hashmon> and i love debian
663 [06:16:44] <hf_hashmon> lol
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673 [06:22:36] <nickgaw> What I mainly need help with is finding
out what sound interfaces like alsa and pulseaudio are installed as
I know alsa is installed but as I am trying to install a better
voice synthesizer on my debian system as I am totally blind and want
something better sounding then espeak?
674 [06:23:04] <somiaj> alsa is part of the linux kernel, it is
the drivers for the sound card, and contains the modules that get
loaded.
675 [06:23:26] <somiaj> pulseaudio runs on top of alsa, usually
in desktop enviroments, that has some additional features that alsa
does not have.
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678 [06:25:30] <nickgaw> I just installed a standard system with
no X windows as I have windows 10 on another system for GUI work.
Should only alsa be installed?
679 [06:25:43] <nickgaw> Would installing pulseaudio be any good?
680 [06:25:57] <somiaj> alsa should be sufficent
681 [06:26:03] <nickgaw> ok
682 [06:26:07] <somiaj> and as I said it is part of the kernel.
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684 [06:26:23] <somiaj> if you run cat /proc/asound/cards you can
see what cards your kernel has detected and loaded moduels for
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686 [06:27:13] <nickgaw> I was looking into the paid Cepstral
voice synthesizer why does debian not suggest I use pay software
when I post to lists?
687 [06:28:51] <somiaj> I don't follow you? What do you mean
by post to lists? Mailing lists?
688 [06:29:13] <nickgaw> yes mailing lists they always justwant
to have me use free software.
689 [06:29:33] <somiaj> Oh, debian can't really support
third party software. So if you are installing some third party
softawre (espically if it is not free) debian isn't in a
positoin to support it, so policy is they won't support it.
690 [06:30:10] <somiaj> correct, debian chooses to only support
the open software in which is packaged in debian.
691 [06:30:12] <hf_hashmon> open source
692 [06:30:21] <hf_hashmon> FTW
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697 [06:32:27] <nickgaw> So if it does not work then I am on my
own getting it fixed?
698 [06:32:49] <AlexLikeRock_> yes
699 [06:32:54] <hf_hashmon> kinda you and google
700 [06:33:10] <hf_hashmon> one of muh bestest friends
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702 [06:33:19] <AlexLikeRock_> please dont install tirth part
repos
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704 [06:33:45] <somiaj> nickgaw: or you contact the people who
made the software.
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706 [06:34:58] <hf_hashmon> yeah that too :P
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766 [07:45:39] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. Which card game package has
the best performance? One time I installed a KDE game package, and
the card games all died.
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768 [07:46:01] <AlexLikeRock_> nVidia Lady_Aleena
769 [07:46:12] <AlexLikeRock_> ohhhh, sorry
770 [07:47:12] <AlexLikeRock_> aisleriot Lady_Aleena
771 [07:47:17] <AlexLikeRock_> "aisleriot"
772 [07:47:39] <AlexLikeRock_> its like All cames in ONE
773 [07:47:45] <AlexLikeRock_> all cards games
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775 [07:48:42] <AlexLikeRock_> Lady_Aleena, i reomend to you
KGOLF
776 [07:48:52] <AlexLikeRock_> one player or Two
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790 [07:55:37] <Lady_Aleena> AlexLikeRock_, thank you!
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792 [07:57:09] <AlexLikeRock_> kolf ***
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829 [08:50:37] <AlexLikeRock_> bye guys
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840 [08:55:40] <clinton> a piece of software I'm trying to
build (namely the newest version of leksah) reports via pkg-config
that it requires gtk 3.18 yet stable only has gtk 3.14.5. Is there a
way to install the newer version of gtk from source from the gtk
website so that leksah install finds the new version but it
doesn't splatter the official debian version?
841 [08:58:22] <somiaj> .v libgtk-3-0
842 [08:58:55] <somiaj> ,v libgtk-3-0
843 [08:58:56] <judd> Package: libgtk-3-0 on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie: 3.14.5-1+deb8u1; stretch: 3.22.11-1; sid:
3.22.12-1
844 [08:59:42] <somiaj> clinton: no easy way. you could try to
backport it from stretch. Lots of your gui stuff might that depends
on lib gtk3 may no longer work as well and need to be rebuilt
against the newer version, unsure on this though.
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847 [08:59:54] <somiaj> but there isn't a backport provided.
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850 [09:01:53] <beardy> Lady_Aleena: You can also check out
ace-of-penguins
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857 [09:09:18] <clinton> somiaj: yeah I don't want to break
the system to do this
858 [09:12:32] <Lady_Aleena> beardy, I got the game I wanted. 8)
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895 [10:07:17] <M|M> ciao a tuttti
896 [10:07:58] <joze> frutti de mare
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903 [10:09:53] <jelly> !it
904 [10:09:54] <dpkg> Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto
in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will
get much more help.
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965 [10:41:57] <volko> having some issues with the latest kernel
and systemd-udevd. When I boot, systemd-udevd pegs a CPU at 100%
utilization until pstore returns an error
966 [10:42:00] <volko> pstore: failed to load 10397757 record(s)
from 'efi'
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974 [10:46:38] <TomG2> volko, i don't know have you looked
it up in a search engine?
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980 [10:51:47] <volko> yes, i've done some searches for that
pstore error, and systemd-udevd eating cpu
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1005 [11:13:27] <TomG2> volko, i don't know, you can follow
the advice on the SystemD web page and try booting with sysvinit
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1008 [11:13:35] <TomG2> the Debian wiki page i mean
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1011 [11:14:09] <volko> lmao
1012 [11:14:15] <TomG2>
replaced-url
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1014 [11:15:00] <TomG2> you can try booting in rescue mode, or
lower and lower levels of initialisation until you find out exactly
what sets it off
1015 [11:15:38] <TomG2> regular systems don't need udev
anyway, just ordinary device files will be fine
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1017 [11:15:52] <TomG2> that's all i know on the issue. maybe
you can file a bug report
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1023 [11:18:38] <MrBar> hello debian
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1025 [11:18:56] <MrBar> i have question that i ask on
stackoverflow,
replaced-url
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1028 [11:19:49] <TomG2> dpkg, free ram?
1029 [11:19:49] <dpkg> Unlike information, your computer's
memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux
tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which
speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these
caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical
memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use,
it's 'free' + 'buffers' +
'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
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1031 [11:20:40] <MrBar> i take in account buffers + cache, but it
not help
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1033 [11:20:51] <MrBar> read please
1034 [11:21:03] <TomG2> dpkg, ram
1035 [11:21:03] <dpkg> methinks ram is (Random Access Memory) The
place in your computer that programs reside when running, or usually
small but very fast storage device, or unused ram is _wasted_ ram!
Ask me about <free ram> or <myram>.
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1037 [11:22:09] <MrBar> TomG2, please read carefully, not answer
if not sure
1038 [11:22:15] <TomG2> as you wish
1039 [11:22:40] <MrBar> i know about kernel slab, but it not help
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1041 [11:23:14] <MrBar> i take in account kernel modules and
kernel slab but it not help
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1043 [11:25:07] <MrBar> 9Gb of RAm that reported as used, and i
can't find for what and what they are used for, i sure it is
not kernel and not app
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1064 [11:34:45] <at0m> MrBar: 'top' will show a light on
what's using RAM. also,
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1066 [11:35:38] <at0m> that's about what dpkg said
1067 [11:36:12] <MrBar> at0m, please read carefully, not answer if
not sure, i know about linuxatemyram
1068 [11:36:44] <joncol> I build my own Emacs and Vim, and removed
the ones that I got via Debian packages. Still, when I run apt-get
dist-upgrade, it wants to install Emacs and Vim packages (that are
older than my compiled ones). How can this be resolved?
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1071 [11:38:34] <jelly> MrBar, which debian are you running and
what kind of workload on that system? what does "free"
say?
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1073 [11:39:07] <TomG2> joncol, when you built your own Vim and
EMACS, did you make .deb packages out of them/
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1075 [11:39:46] <joncol> TomG2: I used `make` and `sudo
checkinstall`
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1077 [11:40:35] <joncol> So they are known to `dpkg
--get-selections`
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1079 [11:41:04] <jelly> joncol, how precisely did you remove the
debian builds?
1080 [11:41:07] <jelly> !bat
1081 [11:41:07] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
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1082 [11:41:26] <jelly> joncol, ^^ show all the info relevant to
that dist-upgrade attempt.
1083 [11:41:40] <joncol> apt-get purge on the packages.
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1087 [11:43:05] <MrBar> jelly,
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1088 [11:43:45] <volko> hmm, i'm getting some freaky ata
errors, but this is a fairly new hard drive
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1094 [11:47:43] <jelly> MrBar, you're not accounting for any
shared memory there.
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1097 [11:49:12] <MrBar> jelly, shared not need get accounted, it
just shared
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1099 [11:49:20] <jelly> lol
1100 [11:49:28] <MrBar> it accounted on used
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1102 [11:49:46] <jelly> exactly.
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1105 [11:50:52] <MrBar> jelly, i take in account used, why i need
take in account shared?
1106 [11:51:10] <jelly> because it's allocated and used by
processes.
1107 [11:51:36] <MrBar> jelly, it already accounted in used
1108 [11:51:54] <jelly> you don't "take used into
account", you use it as total.
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1111 [11:52:59] <MrBar> jelly, i get used and i get total
1112 [11:53:19] <MrBar> jelly, please read carefully, not answer
if not sure
1113 [11:53:51] <jelly> you're completely ignoring the part
that shared memory has in "used"
1114 [11:54:33] <MrBar> jelly, it part of used, i take used in
account, what u talking about?
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1116 [11:55:09] <jelly> you subtract everything else from used,
but not shared
1117 [11:55:12] <MrBar> jelly, in any wai shared memory reported
by free, very small
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1119 [11:55:51] <MrBar> jelly, there just 440524kb but i lost 9Gb
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1121 [11:56:43] <MrBar> jelly, shared not need to subtracted from
used, it already accounted in used
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1125 [11:57:02] <TomG2> joncol, is your question answered yet?
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1129 [11:57:54] <joncol> TomG2: No, I'm trying to change the
input to checkinstall, to add "emacs24" and
"emacs25" to the "replaces" field.
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1134 [12:01:22] <TomG2> there's something about dpkg where
when you install a package compiled by hand it always wants to
install the same version from the repo
1135 [12:01:32] <MrBar> jelly, i thing shared just part of memory
that shared between virtual spaces of processes like .so, and this
not needed to take in account since this accounted in app memory
usage in 'ps aux'
1136 [12:01:43] <TomG2> joncol, maybe if you added a version
number to your emacs, like -joncol, dpkg would not try to upgrade it
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1138 [12:02:12] <joncol> TomG2: OK, I'll try that.
1139 [12:02:59] <TomG2> in that case i hope i'm not talking
out of my rear
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1150 [12:11:49] <joncol> TomG2: It seems that it didn't make
any difference...
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1152 [12:12:15] <TomG2> sorry, i thought it might
1153 [12:12:21] <TomG2> or would
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1157 [12:14:06] <TomG2> the only other idea i had was to not use
checkinstall
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1161 [12:15:21] <joncol> TomG2: When using `apt-cache show
emacs25`, the version is "25.1+1-4". Maybe my version
"25.2" is parsed as being older than this?
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1163 [12:15:47] <MrBar> i not sure can i sum memory percentage
column reported in ps axu, is this percentage of total RAM or
anything else?
1164 [12:15:51] <joncol> TomG2: Any idea what the "+1-4"
signifies?
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1166 [12:17:04] <abrotman> joncol: there's a sectoin in the
Reference that explains this
1167 [12:18:14] <TomG2> i'd have to look it up, joncol
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1171 [12:19:25] <abrotman>
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1172 [12:20:02] <joncol> abrotman: thx
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1175 [12:22:01] <gr8> currently, when mounting a volume using
Thunar or PCManFM, only the user that mounted it can access it. I
would like to have it to a directory that everyone can access by
default!
1176 [12:22:23] <gr8> also, it's an encrypted volume
1177 [12:22:28] <gr8> LUKS
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1180 [12:24:31] <jelly> joncol: you can use dpkg
--compare-versions to test that theory
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1182 [12:26:02] <joncol> jelly: Just what I was looking for,
thanks.
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1190 [12:29:24] <joncol> The version comparator seems to be fine,
i.e. it returns a status code of 0 for `dpkg --compare-versions
25.1+1-4 lt 25.2`.
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1192 [12:31:38] <TomG2> i guess +1 is just a Debian thing
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1222 [12:50:29] <spacebug^> MrBar: Maybe this can help you.
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1229 [12:57:50] <MrBar> spacebug^, looks interesting
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1246 [13:09:47] <Nik05> With debian wheezy there was an debian
live rescue disk, anyone know what happend with this in jessie?
1247 [13:10:05] <Nik05> the standard live iso doesnt have much
rescue packages
1248 [13:10:12] <abrotman> you can use the reguar installer as a
rescue disc
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1251 [13:11:47] <Nik05> oke thank you abrotman
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1273 [13:33:40] <TomG2> the rescue disc was discontinued from lack
of developers
1274 [13:36:26] <abrotman> You mean the LiveCD ?
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1290 [13:49:10] <MaxLanar> Hi, what is the CLI way to control
volume on my debian box (with pulseaudio) ?
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1295 [13:52:21] <zykotick9> MaxLanar: alsamixer might work?
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1301 [13:57:27] <MaxLanar> zykotick9: I want to map volume control
commands to keys, I use amixer for that but it behave weirdly : when
I lower the sound, I'm then sometimes not able to raise it
above a certain (rather low) level. The only way to raise it again
is to use the GUI tool pavucontrol. It's rather inconvenient.
1302 [13:58:29] <MaxLanar> So I wondered if there was some
pulseaudio-specific way to do that. I just found this,
replaced-url
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1304 [13:58:51] <zykotick9> MaxLanar: ahh. well, best of luck.
<i've got nothin' to suggest, as i'm still holding
off pulse usage for a little longer - until the next firefox release
(which requires pulse)> best of luck.
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1307 [14:00:30] <MaxLanar> I regret the time before pulseaudio
too, things were far more simple (and working fine!)...
1308 [14:02:02] <abrotman> MaxLanar: pacmd ?
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1310 [14:02:52] <abrotman> not sure if it allows for volume
control, or just output control
1311 [14:04:31] <abrotman> MaxLanar:
replaced-url
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1315 [14:10:43] <MaxLanar> abrotman: yes pacmd seems to be able to
control volume, but only for a precise level (I can set the level to
75% for example but not 'raise' or 'lower' it
with a single command, wich I need)
1316 [14:10:56] <MaxLanar> (or I don't kow how to do it)
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1320 [14:14:04] <MaxLanar> Thanks for your link, I found also
this,
replaced-url
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1323 [14:16:07] <abrotman> MaxLanar: to be fair, the one I linked
is a python script
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1334 [14:29:13] <MaxLanar> The most elegant (or less ugly ?)
solution I found :
replaced-url
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1347 [14:38:16] <MaxLanar> Damn, it work on the command line, but
not in my openbox rc.xml file :/
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1351 [14:41:49] <MaxLanar> HAHA I finally found a working (and
really elegant) solution :
replaced-url
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1363 [14:50:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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1434 [15:39:52] <antena-cli> I tried to run dd if=/dev/zero
of=/dev/sdb status=progress but there is no progress in dd of Debian
8.8 Jessie. What should I do to see the progress of dd command in
this Debian?
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1437 [15:40:51] <hid3> Is there any way to assign a CPU affinity,
nice priority and ionice class for a service which is managed by
systemd?
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1456 [15:52:43] <frostschutz> antena-cli, kill -USR1 dd makes it
print progress. you want to add bs=1M there... or if it doesn't
have to be dd, then shred -v -n 0 -z /dev/kill would zero it, or for
random data shred -v -n 1 /dev/kill
1457 [15:52:56] <MaxLanar> antena-cli: you should have a look to
dcfldd
1458 [15:53:37] <abrotman> pv is another optin
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1462 [15:54:53] <francine> Hey
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1465 [15:55:27] <antena-cli> I want to know when dd will end of if
it is in some loop and will never end.
1466 [15:55:59] <francine> antena-cli: If you haven't set a
count= argument it will dd'ing until the disk is full
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1468 [15:56:06] <abrotman> antena-cli: what are you trying to
accomplish?
1469 [15:57:00] <antena-cli> I want to fill my sdb with zeroes
from the beginning to the end, and I want to see the percentage of
the progress.
1470 [15:57:28] <francine> antena-cli: status=progress
1471 [15:57:32] <francine> Add this ^
1472 [15:57:51] <antena-cli> francine: There is no status=progress
in dd in Debian 8.8 Jessie.
1473 [15:58:00] <francine> ASpacy: Oh, true
1474 [15:58:06] <francine> Then you are lost I think
1475 [15:58:11] <francine> antena-cli: ^
1476 [15:58:11] <antena-cli> :/
1477 [15:58:26] <JPT> You can still use kill -SIGUSR1 or something
on that dd process to make it print some info
1478 [15:58:53] <abrotman> antena-cli: I meant, why are you
filling it with zeroes?
1479 [15:59:08] <antena-cli> JPT: It doesn't show the
percentage, so I can't know if it'll end soon of whatever.
1480 [15:59:14] <MaxLanar> dd is not aware if it is in a loop or
what, it just put whatever you feed in to wherever you want (until
input end or output's full)
1481 [15:59:22] <antena-cli> abrotman: I'll sell it.
1482 [15:59:40] <abrotman> antena-cli: use something like dban
1483 [15:59:40] <francine> abrotman: He might want to erase the
disk completely for security reaons (maybe disk replacement/old
disk)
1484 [15:59:42] <abrotman> dpkg: dban
1485 [15:59:42] <dpkg> Darik's Boot and Nuke (DBAN) is a
self-contained boot floppy/CD that securely wipes the hard disks of
most computers (x86, x86-64, powerpc). DBAN will automatically and
completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect,
which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data
destruction.
replaced-url
1486 [15:59:43] <antena-cli> dd from stretch have status=progress?
1487 [16:00:01] <francine> antena-cli: yes
1488 [16:00:21] <antena-cli> I'll try DBAN then. I've
tried SeaTools and it failed miserably. I had to restart my computer
because everything crashed.
1489 [16:00:32] <abrotman> That's interesting
1490 [16:00:46] <MaxLanar> Here is what I use to randomize device
: openssl enc -aes-256-ctr -pass pass:"$(dd if=/dev/urandom
bs=128 count=1 2>/dev/null | base64)" -nosalt </dev/zero
| pv --progress --eta --rate --bytes --size 32g | dd of=/dev/sda
bs=2M
1491 [16:00:47] <abrotman> just make sure you read the
instructoins
1492 [16:00:50] <francine> antena-cli: But make sure that DBAN can
take a very long time on big disks
1493 [16:01:02] <antena-cli> 1 TB. :(
1494 [16:01:03] <MaxLanar> pv provide the progress update, not dd
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1496 [16:01:15] <francine> antena-cli: That might be 6 hours or so
1497 [16:01:25] <francine> If not only 1 loop
1498 [16:01:43] <antena-cli> So help me God. Thank you very much
guys and have a good evening.
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1500 [16:02:17] <francine> antena-cli: You're welcome
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1516 [16:11:00] <hid3> abrotman: good day. Maybe you happen to
know, if I add some fields to /lib/systemd/system/*.service files,
will they get overwritten in case of package update or distro
upgrade?
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1520 [16:11:54] <abrotman> hid3: depends if they would be conf
files. If they are conf files, then no, otherwise, it's fairly
likely
1521 [16:12:04] <abrotman> my guess anyway
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1523 [16:12:32] <hid3> what do you mean by 'conf files'?
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1527 [16:13:46] <hid3> e.g. I've added "Nice=19"
under [Service] section to
/lib/systemd/system/transmission-daemon.service file. Is that a conf
file or not?
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1543 [16:19:55] <plop6> is there a command to wipe out current
memory load ?
1544 [16:19:58] <plop6> hi ;)
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1561 [16:26:59] <MrBar> plop6, memory load?
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1564 [16:30:43] <plop6> MrBar: is there a command to wipe out
memory ?
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1570 [16:33:45] <mchasard> hi
1571 [16:34:08] <MrBar> plop6, wipe out? u need delete RAM from
system?
1572 [16:34:09] <mchasard> whoch the best iso to test debian ?*
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1575 [16:34:53] <mchasard> i saw also devuan its not the same ?*
1576 [16:35:30] <plop6> MrBar: i'am using system with low
memory, he often get stuck when using webbrowser ;)
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1581 [16:37:21] <MrBar> plop6, closing webbrowser not help?
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1584 [16:37:40] <MrBar> mchasard, try das knoppix.org
1585 [16:38:12] <plop6> MrBar: yes.... but looking for other
solution !
1586 [16:38:17] <mchasard> knoppix is very old no ?
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1589 [16:38:52] <mchasard> is it possible to install debian from
the live usb ?
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1591 [16:39:12] <MrBar> mchasard, yes
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1602 [16:43:02] <teraflops> mchasard: afaik it won't intall
under uefi
1603 [16:43:41] <teraflops> or even not booting not sure sorry for
my vagueness :S
1604 [16:43:49] <mchasard> ok
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1614 [16:48:44] <missmbob> mcintosh: dont do it. it has many known
bugs, not just lack of uefi support
1615 [16:48:51] <missmbob> fuch
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1632 [16:58:35] <erabti__> debian supports gnome 3.24.x?
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1634 [16:59:48] <ectospasm> I'm having trouble with
isc-dhcp-server on Jessie. On a reboot (e.g. due to kernel upgrade),
isc-dhcp-server.service complains "No subnet declaration for
wlan0 (no IPv4 addresses)" (see
replaced-url
1635 [16:59:52] <centrx> erabti__: It looks like the next version
of Debian will have Gnome 3.22
1636 [17:00:06] <ectospasm> I think there's a race condition
on boot, but I need to fix it.
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1644 [17:03:27] <ectospasm> My dhcpd.conf:
replaced-url
1645 [17:03:30] <teraflops> ectospasm: I never noticed what you
say
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1647 [17:03:55] <ectospasm> teraflops: what do you mean?
1648 [17:04:01] <teraflops> that
1649 [17:04:08] <teraflops> I never noticed what you say
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1651 [17:04:14] <teraflops> hmm, unless it's wireless related
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1653 [17:04:48] <ectospasm> My hunch is wlan0 isn't up when
isc-dhcp-server starts
1654 [17:05:06] <ectospasm> But I'm not familiar with systemd
on Jessie to know where to look.
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1656 [17:05:51] <ectospasm> isc-dhcp-server.service looks
configured to start after network-online.target, but
network-online.target seems rather empty.
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1658 [17:06:57] <ectospasm> If it were a configuration problem in
isc-dhcp-server, I'd expect a simple restart to exhibit the
same problem.
1659 [17:07:10] <ectospasm> ...restart of the service
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1661 [17:07:42] <ectospasm> reboot is when I notice the problem,
my mobile phone can't obtain an IP address from my router.
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1673 [17:14:05] <mcintosh> missmbob: :p
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1699 [17:22:00] <ectospasm> Hmmmm...
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1709 [17:23:13] <jt> hey everybody, anyone to help me? I try to
install a debian, I managed to install xubuntu but debian
couldn't see my internal memory card
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1712 [17:23:49] <ectospasm> I just glanced through my `journalctl
--boot=0`, and corrected a problem with rinetd.conf. I also
corrected a problem with an NFS mount on boot. Neither of those
I'd suspect to have any bearing on my dhcp issue... Just
rebooted and the dhcp problem is no longer apparent.
1713 [17:23:57] <ectospasm> Rebooting again
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1715 [17:25:47] <ectospasm> Rebooting again
1716 [17:25:55] <ectospasm> Oops
1717 [17:26:20] <ectospasm> It looks like I survived two reboots,
and dhcp is back up and running without any intervention.
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1719 [17:26:43] <ectospasm> I really would like to know how I
fixed it, but that might be too much.
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1727 [17:30:58] <jt> you never know
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1744 [17:42:15] <sigdk> I did an upgrade an it changed my gvim
fonts to something terrible... I can't revert the change... it
seems that there are no monospace fonts available. Is there any
package I need?
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1746 [17:45:36] <missmbob> apt search monospace has a few
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1749 [17:46:41] <missmbob> if you're on stretch/unstable try
#debian-next on oftc. that's their channel
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1752 [17:48:02] <sigdk> missmbob, thanks
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1788 [18:12:52] <Bozza> If i create a symlink from
/media/1245451454/home/blabla.sh to a different location on the same
media drive, will the symlink work if the media drive changes name?
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1791 [18:15:11] <spacebug^> if the '1245451454' path
change the no. (If you are using full-path-symblinks). You could use
insted use realtive path symlinks
1792 [18:15:54] <Bozza> Spacebug^: i habe a debian OS mounted as
an sd card
1793 [18:16:13] <spacebug^> if you have
/media/1245451454/home/foo/bar/onefile.sh and want to link that to
/media/1245451454/home/blabla.sh you say it links to
../../home/blabla.sh
1794 [18:16:17] <Bozza> I want to create the symlink while my sd
card is plugged into my big pc
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1797 [18:17:22] <sigdk> how can I rip off my current gvim and
install a previous one? Seems there are problems with it
1798 [18:17:47] <spacebug^> Bozza: but you want the link to be on
that same media drive?
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1800 [18:18:02] <Bozza> spacebug^: the debian OS on the sd card is
supposed to work as root
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1802 [18:18:16] <Bozza> spacebug^: yes
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1804 [18:18:34] <Bozza> The sd card contains a debian os
1805 [18:18:57] <Bozza> And the symlink is supposed to work on the
OS inside the sd card
1806 [18:19:11] <spacebug^> then use realtive path
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1809 [18:19:26] <Bozza> spacebug^: i am editing the sd card while
it is mounted to /media/1242424/blabla
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1811 [18:20:19] <Bozza> spacebug^: thanks. I hope it works
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1818 [18:21:48] <spacebug^> Bozza: so, something like this: cd
/my/new/path ; ln -s ../../path/to/myfile .
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1822 [18:22:25] <Nik05> When using the debian installer rescue
mode, how can I download and use rescue packages?
1823 [18:22:40] <Nik05> looks like rescue mode only has busybox
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1825 [18:23:52] <Bozza> spacebug^: trying now
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1831 [18:25:41] <Bozza> spacebug^: when I boot from the sd card
there will be no /media/xxxx/
1832 [18:25:46] <Bozza> It will be just /
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1834 [18:26:48] <Bozza> spacebug^: will that still work?
1835 [18:27:51] <jt> ugh
1836 [18:28:00] <spacebug^> as long as you don't link to a
dir outside /media/xxxx/
1837 [18:28:09] <BluesKaj> Nik05, have you tried running e2fsck
1838 [18:28:09] <jt> debian installer only recognise the USB key
and NONE of the internal memory
1839 [18:28:11] <jt> what do I do?
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1848 [18:34:20] <Nik05> BluesKaj sorry thats not my question.
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1855 [18:35:30] <Nik05> abrotman are you here? yesterday you said
to use rescue mode of the installer as a replacement of the rescue
live cd. but doesnt look like rescue mode has any software
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1858 [18:37:28] <spacebug^> jt: card reader?
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1868 [18:43:35] <Artox> \o everyone
1869 [18:43:40] <Bozza> Hello
1870 [18:44:02] <Artox> looking for some help in setting up a
network bridge in the /etc/network/interfaces file, and ipv6
1871 [18:44:16] <Artox> so apparently my bridghe is working fine,
but I only get ipv4 connectivity :/
1872 [18:45:16] <Artox>
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1873 [18:45:21] <Bozza> spacebug^: i copied the file into
/lib/path. AND on the sd card i made the same exact path. I now made
a symlink on the pc and just copied the symlink onto the sd card
1874 [18:45:27] <Bozza> That should also work right?
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1876 [18:46:08] <Bozza> So i basically made a mirror of the
structure on the pc path. And just copied the symlink and path
structure to sd card
1877 [18:46:41] <Artox> and whenever I try to ping6 something I
get connect: Network is unreachable
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1885 [18:48:50] <spacebug^> Bozza: I'm not sure about what
you are trying to do
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1890 [18:50:09] <sigdk> sudo service --status-all shows [ - ]
mysql . Does this mean that mysql is installed but not running? Can
it be that it is not installed at all?
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1906 [19:03:33] <random_numbers> Is there a way to list only
packages I have installed from backports and should I uninstall them
before upgrading to stretch?
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1911 [19:05:44] <hid3> maybe dpkg -l | grep bpo?
1912 [19:06:11] <hid3> although I've never bothered
uninstalling anything before an upgrade, though
1913 [19:07:11] <missmbob> i dont have backports but maybe this
would work for it too dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' |
xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.-]+:/ {pkg=$1};
/\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print
pkg,ver,$2,$3}' |sed 's/\s\s*/ /g' |awk '{printf
"%-25s %-25s %-25s\n", $1, $2, $4}' (lists all repos.
grep for backports)
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1916 [19:07:49] <random_numbers> Did you just come up with that
spontaneously? How?
1917 [19:08:10] <missmbob> no. i save things
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1921 [19:09:32] <random_numbers> missmbob: Ah, alright, because I
was pretty impressed.
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1925 [19:10:04] <jhutchins> random_numbers: All backports these
days should include "bpo", and should smoothly upgrade to
a new release (that's one of the reasons for official
backports).
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1928 [19:10:42] <jhutchins> random_numbers: One of the complaints
about Debian Multimedia is that there were, at one point, a few
packages that didn't upgrade smoothly to the new official
packages.
1929 [19:10:53] <spacebug^> random_numbers: you are either
skilled, or you do as I do, try, get angry, read man, try again, get
angry, google, try again, repeat a few times, succeed, print help
and await applades :D
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1931 [19:11:15] <jhutchins> random_numbers: Which is ok with me,
if I wanted dmm on wheezy I probably still want it on jessie.
1932 [19:11:49] <random_numbers> Mhm. I just don't want to
break my stuff critically like, no booting. If it boots and apt/dpkg
works, it's fixable, whatever happens.
1933 [19:12:17] <missmbob> if you dont have a *very* specific
reason for dmm, dont use it
1934 [19:13:15] <jhutchins> random_numbers: I've not heard of
anyone having problems like that.
1935 [19:13:28] <random_numbers> Yeah, I only use jessie-backports
for stuff like... (running the line soonish)
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1939 [19:13:40] <random_numbers> ffmpeg, weechat, calibre and
emacs pacakges.
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1947 [19:17:03] <random_numbers> That shouldn't break much.
Thanks for the help.
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2027 [19:58:54] <OtakuSenpai> are there any packages which
document the posix headers like apra/inet.h in a detailed
manner(besides the man pages) ?
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2038 [20:02:26] <random_numbers> OtakuSenpai: I suspect that if
there's no doc-package, you're out of luck for anything
not like a separate download of "self-documenting" code.
Hopefully there's an info page.
2039 [20:02:59] <random_numbers> s/download of/download or/
2040 [20:03:01] <OtakuSenpai> im currently checking the man pages
for dlopen and such
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2042 [20:03:15] <OtakuSenpai> hope to get a headstart
2043 [20:03:24] <random_numbers> dlopen is what you're
looking for?
2044 [20:03:30] <OtakuSenpai> yeah
2045 [20:03:42] <OtakuSenpai> dynamic library handling to be
precise
2046 [20:04:37] <random_numbers> Well, I found this document: ((replaced-url
2047 [20:05:00] <OtakuSenpai> thnx
2048 [20:05:12] <random_numbers> Hope that helps.
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2105 [20:42:09] <dubwoc> sense
2106 [20:42:24] <leemar> Hello, anyone know the Linux kernel
driver for the Gigabit ethernet port on an Apple MacBook Pro
late-2006? Both sky2 and tg3 don't produce the interface....
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2108 [20:43:01] <teraflops> leemar: get the pciid and google
it/ask the bot
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2115 [20:46:48] <leemar> teraflops: I don't see the device
with lspci or lsusb, so I can't get the pciid
2116 [20:47:24] <teraflops> leemar:
replaced-url
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2127 [20:52:36] <zykotick9> leemar: you might want to check dmesg
for any relavant messages (missing firmware?)?
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2133 [20:54:02] <n4dir> at wiki.debian.org there are all kinds of
pages about MacBook. Might be there some usefull info is to be
found.
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2135 [20:54:25] <leemar> discover also only shows the WiFi
interface and no ethernet.... zykotick9: only missing firmware
relating to iSight camera
2136 [20:56:10] <leemar> n4dir: I've spent time going
thorough most of the debian wiki macbook related pages as well as
internet searches... this model is late-2006 and does not have a
specific page...
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2138 [20:56:29] <n4dir> ah, ok, sorry then.
2139 [20:56:47] <leemar> n4dir: thank you for helping!
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2143 [20:57:55] <n4dir> not sure if oswaldkelso (or similar) still
visits forums.debian.net. He usually had good links or tips or such
when it comes to apple hardware. Might be worth a try to make a
thread there (perhaps he will run into it).
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2145 [20:58:37] <skunkz> Hi, I'm trying to get
debian-8.8.0-armel to run on qemu on a mac os host, first is it
possible, and if yes, do you have any idea what's wrong with
this command? qemu-system-arm -m 256 -drive
format=raw,file=debian-8.8.0-armel-xfce-CD-1.iso -M versatilepb
2146 [21:03:46] <Spydar007> Is there a way to live-patch kernel
4.9 from jessie-backports onto a server running jessie 8.8?
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2149 [21:05:54] <jolt> Spydar007: live patch? 8.8 is running 3.16,
so 4.9 is miles away from that
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2151 [21:06:08] <Spydar007> right, right
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2153 [21:06:37] <Spydar007> will going from 3.16 to 4.9 work
though?
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2155 [21:07:34] <jolt> Spydar007: Yes, But a reboot is needed
2156 [21:07:45] <Spydar007> great, thanks
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2158 [21:07:58] <Spydar007> can jessie kernels be live-patched
though
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2161 [21:08:28] <jolt> I don't think any default kernels can
be live-patched, but I don't have to much experience in that
area.
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2163 [21:08:38] <Spydar007> obviously not that far, but is there a
way to live-patch kernels for jessie? I haven't found anything
that seems to suggest so
2164 [21:09:12] <Spydar007> apart from the fact that Stretch moves
to 4.10 with "kpatch"
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2166 [21:09:20] <jolt> I know there is some oracle extensions for
live patching kernels, mainly used for VM hosts etc, but I
haven't used em
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2174 [21:10:27] <Fh31g0_BR> Who Java 8 running firefox mozilla?
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2178 [21:12:52] <alt0id> hey
2179 [21:13:08] <alt0id> can someone help me sort out some xorg
issues? how do i paste logs again via cmdl?
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2182 [21:13:36] <alt0id> i have an nvidia 210 and the drivers keep
failing on me, wont register the monitor
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2187 [21:18:19] <Fh31g0_BR> How to run java 8 in mozilla on linux?
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2190 [21:19:39] <sonOfRa> Fh31g0_BR: the best bet is
"don't"
2191 [21:19:42] <sonOfRa> ~applets
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2194 [21:20:02] <sonOfRa> oh, wrong channel. But in any case: The
part of java that runs in browsers is effectively deprecated
2195 [21:20:25] <Fh31g0_BR> sonOfRa Ok. Tanks
2196 [21:21:06] <nkuttler> !tell Fh31g0_BR about java plugin
2197 [21:21:24] <sonOfRa> There's
replaced-url
2198 [21:22:37] <Fh31g0_BR> sonOfRa thank you friend
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2212 [21:34:55] <zykotick9> alt0id: <sidenote re:pasting from
terminal> one method, usually not requiring installing anything
is to use termbin.com's site like "cat ~/some_file.txt |
nc termbin.com 9999" best of luck with your xorg issue.
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2231 [21:50:56] <Fh31g0_BR> is possible install debian persistent
in pen driver?
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2235 [21:51:42] <zykotick9> Fh31g0_BR: personally, i'd just
install onto a pen drive (but then you can't use it to install
from)...
2236 [21:51:43] <nkuttler> Fh31g0_BR: can you boot from it? then
it's just a hd..
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2239 [21:52:33] <Fh31g0_BR> GPARTED: create swap, ext4
2240 [21:52:33] * zykotick9 finds running an OS from USB far to slow...
but ymmv
2241 [21:53:13] <LunaLovegood> Is there a .tar.gz file somewhere
that contain a pre-installed minimal install Debian root filesystem?
I tried installing using debootstrap, but it asks for Perl and I
don't feel like trying to cross-compile Perl just so I can
install a Debian that will probably contain it already.
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2246 [21:53:50] <LunaLovegood> For arm64 btw
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2249 [21:54:37] <random_numbers> LunaLovegood: You basically want
a full dd-ready arm64 image of debian?
2250 [21:54:54] <LunaLovegood> either an image or a tar file of
the whole root fs
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2252 [21:55:12] <LunaLovegood> if it's an image I'll
just mount it loopback and copy the files over
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2254 [21:55:45] <LunaLovegood> I'd customize the passwords
and hostname and such later
2255 [21:55:58] <random_numbers>
replaced-url
2256 [21:56:10] <LunaLovegood> ok cool thanks
2257 [21:56:13] <random_numbers> Enjoy
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2300 [22:15:40] <p0123> When I installed debian with my external
usb hdd plugged in it added this entry to fstab:
replaced-url
2301 [22:15:57] <p0123> unless i comment out the line my computer
will not boot up and I have to log into safe admin mode
2302 [22:16:24] <p0123> it needs to be enabled for my dvr to work
=[
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2314 [22:21:27] <zykotick9> p0123: you could add noauto to the
options, if it still use it occastionally
2315 [22:22:04] <p0123> im not sure what that implies, but it
needs to turn on soon as service zoneminder starts
2316 [22:22:12] <p0123> hence using fstab
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2318 [22:22:37] <p0123> ah it needs to be mounted at boot
2319 [22:23:13] <zykotick9> p0123: is the sdb causing the problem?
using uuid or labels would be better.
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2322 [22:23:53] <p0123> im going to try a uuid now good idea
2323 [22:23:58] <p0123> thanks
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2332 [22:28:36] <p0123> a start job is running for
dev-disk-by/x2duuid-
2333 [22:28:39] <p0123> =[
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2335 [22:28:42] <Quatroking> what do you suggest I mount a 2nd
drive as during install?
2336 [22:28:44] <p0123> not again
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2340 [22:29:42] <p0123> depdence failed for /mediaexternal
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2342 [22:30:00] <p0123> dependency failed for local file systems
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2344 [22:30:03] <p0123> meh
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2375 [22:51:54] <p0123> ugh im clueless
2376 [22:52:06] <p0123> UUID mounting doesnt work
2377 [22:52:18] <p0123> a start job is running for dev-disk-by\
2378 [22:53:07] <p0123> the uuid is correct...
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2380 [22:53:30] <p0123> depedency failed for /media/external
2381 [22:53:33] <Bozza> Guys a woman joined :3
2382 [22:53:54] <p0123> dependency ffaield for local file systems
2383 [22:53:57] <p0123> -failed
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2385 [22:54:20] <Bozza> It has been long in the lands of irc that
a woman came along
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2387 [22:54:42] <missmbob> i live here, so shut up
2388 [22:55:41] <Bozza> Hehe
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2390 [22:58:16] <p0123>
replaced-url
2391 [22:58:25] <p0123> is my fdisk -l
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2395 [23:02:00] <p0123>
replaced-url
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2400 [23:03:55] <p0123>
replaced-url
2401 [23:04:00] <p0123> that's everything
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2405 [23:04:57] <p0123> the issue logs at line 877
2406 [23:05:07] <AlexPortable> How do I change the timezone?
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2408 [23:05:20] <AlexPortable> Local time is now: 21:04, universal
time is now: 19:04
2409 [23:05:35] <AlexPortable> While it's 23:05 here
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2417 [23:07:41] <missmbob> !timezone
2418 [23:07:41] <dpkg> A time zone is the standard time (aka local
time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian
systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". Alternatively:
"cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that
tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. Postfix users: execute
"service postfix restart" to update localtime in the
chroot.
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2437 [23:13:38] <p0123> geez i type mount /media/external and it
cant find the drive with the UUID clearly listed in fdisk -l
2438 [23:13:41] <p0123> wtf is going on
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2440 [23:15:25] <AlexPortable> missmbob: yes i reconfigured it
with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
2441 [23:15:32] <AlexPortable> the output i posted was the result
of that
2442 [23:15:59] <missmbob> so fix utc in your bios
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2446 [23:17:32] <AlexPortable> oh its a bios problem
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2448 [23:18:06] <dvs> AlexPortable, it's depends on what you
want to set your BIOS clock set to: UTC or local time.
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2451 [23:19:46] <oerheks> AlexPortable, it might be a windows
issue,
replaced-url
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2464 [23:23:53] <AlexPortable> thanks
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2490 [23:44:11] <p0123>
replaced-url
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