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17[00:09:31] <google77> hi
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18[00:09:57] <google77> by default debian comes without either
apparmor, selinux or tomoyo, am I right?
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21[00:10:33] <missmbob> right
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25[00:11:05] <google77> So I can install tomoyo easily?
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30[00:11:43] <missmbob> yes
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31[00:11:45] <missmbob> ,v tomoyo-tools
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32[00:11:46] <judd> Package: tomoyo-tools on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.5.0-20120414-2; jessie: 2.5.0-20140601-1; stretch:
2.5.0-20140601-7; sid: 2.5.0-20140601-7
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33[00:11:52] <google77> cool
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36[00:12:32] <google77> I guess I want to study Tomoyo and its
fork Akari a bit in a virtual machine.
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39[00:12:54] <google77> Finally something to dissect a bit :D
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136[00:58:54] <SuperTramp83> u
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156[01:09:11] <cusn> I broke my package manager. (apt-get) Tried
to manually remove Google-chrome-stable (thought I had installed it
manually). Now I get error message on every apt operation I do, and
i can't get Google-chrome-stab;e to install or remove. Is there
anyway i can for apt-get to remove the zombie remnants?
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157[01:10:10] <rjsalts> cusn: use a paste service and show us
the output
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159[01:11:19] <rjsalts> cusn: or man dpkg and search for force.
There are many categories of what you can force, depending on your
problem
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161[01:11:40] <cusn>
replaced-url
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178[01:18:46] <rjsalts> cusn: have a look at
/var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst. It's erroring
when calling xdg-icon-resource, if it's same as on my system
then there is a bug on line 16
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180[01:19:21] <rjsalts> cusn: actually I misread the script, it
should be fine
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182[01:19:32] <cusn> urf. :)
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183[01:20:23] <cusn> Can I manually remove the dpkg info file
for gooogle-chrome stabe and then re-install?
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184[01:21:09] <rjsalts> cusn: try running for icon in
"/opt/google/chrome/product_logo_"*.png; do
size="${icon##*/product_logo_}";echo ${size%.png};done and
see what it says
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185[01:22:00] <cusn> /opt/google/chrome is gone forevermore..
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187[01:22:56] <cusn> Quth the Raven, "You're a
Bore!"
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192[01:25:02] <rjsalts> cusn: it's trying to finish the
install of google chrome. If you do dpkg -i google-chome-stable..deb
then it should put those files in place. or you could do dpkg
--purge google-chrome-stable
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198[01:26:53] <cusn> those both erred out
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200[01:27:31] <cusn> xdg-icon-resource: size argument must be
numeric and no such deb file (" cannot access archive: No such
file or directory
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201[01:27:31] <cusn> ")
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202[01:28:41] <rjsalts> cusn: when I said dpkg -i
google-chrome-stable..deb I meant /path/to/deb. e.g. it might be
dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/google-chrome-stable_*deb
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204[01:29:11] <cusn> ah, ok
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205[01:29:26] <rjsalts> cusn: but editing or removing
/var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst will also work
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256[01:55:26] <AciD`> I installed a fresh debian (stretch) on a
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257[01:55:56] <AciD`> it keeps getting full with `dh` showing
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258[01:56:03] <AciD`> is there a way to stop that madness?
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299[02:18:04] <aaronlevy> I am running (essentially): apt-get
update && apt-get install <a few packages> &&
apt-get upgrade -- but I am still seeing some out of date packages
(OpenSSL, for example). However, if I run apt-get update &&
apt-get upgrade again as a second step - the packages are updated.
Concrete example e.g. why is this line needed:
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331[02:39:20] <sandeepkr_> is there a a debian based OS that
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333[02:40:22] <aedinius> preinstalled? why not just install it?
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343[02:46:02] <sandeepkr_> aedinius, i know but the case here is
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350[02:52:40] <sandeepkr_> rjsalts, with the help of which
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solution to get newer sqlite3 package in wheezy, without
dist-upgrading (dont want to do that, not yet)? dpkg-building from
the jessie source for example? sadly it's not in backports.
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388[03:13:27] <somiaj> ,v sqlite3
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389[03:13:28] <judd> Package: sqlite3 on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.7.13-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 3.7.13-1+deb7u3; jessie-security:
3.8.7.1-1+deb8u1; jessie: 3.8.7.1-1+deb8u2; stretch: 3.14.2-1; sid:
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391[03:13:54] <somiaj> toruvinn: you could try to backport the
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392[03:13:59] <somiaj> !wheezy-lts
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393[03:13:59] <dpkg> Security support for Debian 7
"Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on
2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive
additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until
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394[03:14:07] <toruvinn> somiaj, yeah, i need 3.8.2 at least for
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396[03:14:38] <toruvinn> somiaj, mhmm. let's see. thanks.
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397[03:14:53] <somiaj> toruvinn: though depending on your time
line it might also be a good push to think about changing to jessie.
Though streetch will be out before wheezy-lts is done.
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399[03:15:17] <somiaj> Note you will have to take responsbility
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444[03:35:28] <tom99> hey somiaj
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445[03:35:39] <tom99> any idea how to go about filing a bug
report for a package on wheezy and/or jessie?
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447[03:36:04] <tom99> surfist and i were talking about a
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448[03:36:07] <tom99> and ways to maybe fix it or patch it
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449[03:36:12] <jmcnaught> tom99:
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454[03:36:49] <jmcnaught> it's unlikely to get fixed in
wheezy, and will probably only get fixed in jessie if it
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455[03:37:03] <jmcnaught> (and if someone contributes a fix)
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468[03:39:44] <tom99> what do you mean by version bump?
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469[03:39:56] <jmcnaught> tom99: version increase
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470[03:39:59] <tom99> if you go the source package on the gnome
site then the latest version fixes the problem with it
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472[03:40:06] <tom99> so it would have to be a version update i
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478[03:40:54] <ryouma> jmcnaught: my understanding from a prev
conv is that somebody was working on it and it would be fixed in
jessie. but this was a while back.
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482[03:41:16] <jmcnaught> tom99: fixes are often backported to
packages in Debian Stable. This is different than backporting a
package, it means taking a patch that fixes the issue and applying
it to the version in Debian Stable
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484[03:41:21] <tom99> i think there might be dependency issues
as well, so a wheezy update may be impossible. but it also
doesn't work in jessie IIRC
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485[03:41:43] <jmcnaught> tom99: only in rare circumstances
involving security will versions increase in a Debian Stable
release, like the samba upgrade a few months ago
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486[03:41:57] <ryouma> jmcnaught: so backports can contain both
types of backports?
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487[03:41:59] <jmcnaught> ryouma: is there a bug already
reported for it?
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488[03:42:02] <tom99> so if it was to be fixed in jessie then
the preferred way would be a patch?
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489[03:42:14] <ryouma> jmcnaught: no clue. i don't
understand deiban's mechanisms or i'd have tried to look
it up.
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490[03:42:26] <jmcnaught> ryouma: what is the package name?
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491[03:42:32] <ryouma> weather-util, i think
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493[03:43:11] <ryouma> also it's broken in gkrellm's
weahter app
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495[03:43:22] <ryouma> (for precisely the same reason most
likely)
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497[03:43:55] <jmcnaught> ryouma: you can log bugs up with
replaced-url
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505[03:45:02] <tom99> we were discussing two different packages,
libgweather-3-0 and weather-util. I believe they are independent
from what my system is telling me.
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506[03:45:12] <tom99> but surfist might know more
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511[03:45:44] <tom99> we had a simple fix for weather util,
changing the URL in a couple files fixed it
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514[03:45:51] <tom99> so that would be the time to use a patch?
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520[03:47:19] <ryouma> jmcnaught: thanks. seems the bug is
there.
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522[03:47:54] <jmcnaught> tom99: the first step is to look for
the bug, but don't expect it to be fixed for wheezy, which is
LTS only now
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523[03:48:02] <ryouma> jmcnaught: suppose i figure it will take
too long for them to fix it (no clue). then would i (1) just edit
the files in place or (2) perform some clever debian redirection
thing to the fixed files?
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525[03:48:39] <ryouma> (or (3) figure out how to recompile my
own package or whatever)
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529[03:49:28] <ryouma> seems to be this for weather-util
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530[03:49:29] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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531[03:50:02] <ryouma> except it is grave, judd
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532[03:50:09] <acu> what is the current kernel in Debian Stretch
?
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533[03:50:22] <TomTomTosch> ,kernels
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534[03:50:23] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.7.0-rc7-686 (4.7~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686
(4.7.5-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.4-2); jessie-backports:
4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-2)
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535[03:50:39] <stensonlives> <b>Hi</b>.
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536[03:50:42] <jmcnaught> ryouma: there is dpkg-divert. or you
could download the source package and try to make a patch for it
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537[03:51:00] <acu> thanks judd
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538[03:51:39] <ryouma> hmm, that was what i was thinking of, but
from the man page seems like it wouldn't work here
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539[03:52:34] <jhutchins> Is there some trick to getting ssh
working with the live CD? I keep getting key errors when I try to
connect. It could just be a bad IDE controller is not loading sshd
cleanly.
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542[03:54:55] <tom99> jmcnaught, so we've found the bug and
also identified a fix which I tested.
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543[03:55:04] <tom99> Is the next step to submit some sort of
patch?
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544[03:55:40] <tom99> The fix is actually suggested by the
maintainer in the thread, so I'm not sure submitting a patch
would be meaningful.
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546[03:56:27] <jmcnaught> tom99: you mean weather-util? i'm
sure a patch would be welcome. i didn't read the bug report
though.
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549[03:57:05] <jmcnaught> jhutchins: is it the client or server
running the live CD?
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550[03:57:17] <tom99> jmcnaught: it is a simple URL change of a
couple files
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551[03:57:28] <tom99> but for some reason it hasn't been
fixed by the maintainer
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553[03:58:42] <somiaj> tom99: what files? Config files? Creating
a patch and submitting it to the bug report can help move things
along.
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555[03:59:32] <tom99> somiaj: the file weather.py which is in
/usr/share
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556[03:59:40] <somiaj> tom99:
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557[04:00:09] <somiaj> most likey the source package uses quilt
and with that you can download the jessie source, apply all the
patches then create a new one using quilt.
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558[04:00:24] <tom99> somiaj: i don't understand, a package
that already uses Quilt?
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559[04:00:34] <tom99> oh ok
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560[04:01:04] <somiaj> tom99: the debian patches on the source
are made with quilt. Those instructions should work (I'm unsure
if all debian sources use quilt but I think most do)
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561[04:01:12] <somiaj> well note made, managed.
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564[04:02:57] <tom99> hmm ok thanks somiaj
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566[04:03:04] <tom99> that looks like something i could get
started with I guess
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568[04:03:25] <tom99> once the patch is submitted what do you
think the likelihood of it being verified and applied is?
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572[04:04:29] <jmcnaught> tom99: i don't think it will
happen at all for wheezy. for jessie it could happen for a point
release
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575[04:05:14] <tom99> hmm. i'm not sure how encouraging
that is, esp given the maintainer surely knows about the fix already
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577[04:05:37] <jhutchins> jmcnaught server on live cd.
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580[04:05:53] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: Not sure which one I
grabbed, its non-GUI though.
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581[04:06:08] <jmcnaught> maintainers are often very busy
people, if you submit a patch that works it will help move things
along
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583[04:06:32] <tom99> alright thanks jmcnaught
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585[04:06:45] <jmcnaught> jhutchins: and you're getting an
error on the client? what is the error? is replacing the host keys
okay?
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588[04:09:01] <jmcnaught> (and do you have console access?)
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590[04:09:17] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: It's getting a key
error, even though I'm trying to login with a password. Pam is
enabled.
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591[04:09:46] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: The problem is it's a
wounded server, and so far I get a limited window to work on it
before the DVD fails and I can't do any system calls.
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593[04:10:17] <jmcnaught> jhutchins: what does the error say? is
it about client or host keys?
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594[04:10:32] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: I don't think it says
which it is.
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596[04:11:02] <jmcnaught> jhutchins: not even with -vvv? can you
make a paste?
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599[04:11:25] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: I was looking for knowledge
of the live configuration, I can do diagnostics tomorow if I have
time to bring it up, but like I said it's a limited window, and
I don't want to spend what may be finite time dinking with
diagnostics and configuration.
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600[04:12:05] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: I do have experience
diagnosing ssh connections, but I'd like it if the blasted live
image just worked.
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601[04:12:47] <jmcnaught> jhutchins: sure, it's just hard
to know what your problem is without the error message. if it's
a problem with the host keys and you have console access, i would
regenerate themm
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603[04:13:01] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: I may re-burn it, I'm
getting a LOT of buffer errors as it boots. So far the new DVD drive
has not failed outright though, so if I have time to spend tomorrow
I may get it working. I know I had it working before because I
recovered some of the system.
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604[04:13:26] <simbalion> Hi, since accidentally removing some
packages the other day, I can't 'open with gedit'
items on my desktop anymore. Can someone tell me what controls that?
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605[04:13:26] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: Yes, like I said, not
asking for diagnostic help, asking for knowledge of live.
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606[04:14:18] <jhutchins> simbalion: mime types? Look at your
apt/dpkg logs and see what you removed.
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608[04:14:36] <simbalion> jhutchins: thanks but there's
like 30 packages and I have no idea what most of them are. I already
tried that.
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609[04:14:48] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: THanks for the thoughts
though. If I get time to hack at it tomorrow I may ask for help.
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610[04:15:16] <simbalion> It shouldn't matter what type of
file it is. I right click it and select 'open with gedit'
it should send a command 'gedit %1'. That is what's
broken.
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612[04:15:25] <jhutchins> I think burning a new DVD in hopes
that it's a bad copy is one step. My theory is that the IDE
controller is failing and that trashed the boot disk.
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614[04:15:41] <somiaj> simbalion: is the package gedit
installed?
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615[04:15:48] <jhutchins> simbalion: Ok, well as long as you
know what the problem is then.
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616[04:15:49] <bmomjian> When I do: sh -c "sleep 400;
ls" &, and kill the $! pid, any idea why the sleep 400
keeps running?
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617[04:16:06] <simbalion> jhutchins: I asked what package
controls that. Thanks.
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618[04:16:55] <somiaj> simbalion: by cannot open, you mean that
option is no longer there?
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620[04:17:07] <simbalion> I didn't say that, did I?
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621[04:17:21] <simbalion> oh I guess I did, I should have worded
it better.
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622[04:17:31] <simbalion> The option is there, it does not do
anything.
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624[04:17:54] <somiaj> simbalion: just trying to be clear. And
you said the gedit package is installed, so if you run gedit foo
from the command line it works?
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626[04:18:07] <simbalion> somiaj: I'll try from the CLI
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628[04:18:29] <simbalion> works as expected from the CLI
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629[04:18:57] <jmcnaught> simbalion: can you run nautilus from a
terminal emulator, and then watch it for errors when you try to open
with gedit?
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632[04:19:46] <simbalion> jmcnaught: nautilus was not installed,
that is one of the packages that was removed. I'm reinstalling
it now
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633[04:20:08] <simbalion> it looks like it is installing most of
the other packages too, as dependencies
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635[04:20:22] <somiaj> nautilus is the filemanager which
basically controlls the desktop. I'm surprised you had the menu
without nautilus.
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636[04:20:33] <somiaj> maybe the menu is part of gnome, but
nautilus is needed to run the commands on the files.
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637[04:20:37] <jmcnaught> simbalion: maybe i missed it, but what
program were right-clicking icons in if not nautilus?
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638[04:20:40] <simbalion> somiaj: I'm using xfce4, dunno
how their desktop works
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640[04:21:05] <jmcnaught> oh... probably thunar or something
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641[04:21:17] <jmcnaught> simbalion: do you have the
task-xfce-desktop package installed?
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642[04:21:21] <simbalion> if I run nautilus from CLI and
'open with gedit' it works, but still doesnt work from the
desktop
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643[04:21:49] <simbalion> jmcnaught: thanks that was
half-installed
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645[04:22:11] <simbalion> The lesson here is never apt-get
install selinux
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648[04:22:36] <simbalion> well open with gedit still isn't
working but maybe I need to restart X first
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653[04:23:42] <jmcnaught> simbalion: selinux isn't a
package on Debian. out of curiousity, what did you install exactly?
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654[04:23:51] <simbalion> jmcnaught: yes it is
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655[04:24:09] <simbalion> there aren't any profile packages
but selinux has a package
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656[04:24:13] <jmcnaught> ,i selinux
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657[04:24:14] <judd> No package named 'selinux' was
found in jessie/amd64.
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659[04:25:35] <simbalion> jmcnaught: weird, I did an apt-cache
search selinux and I don't see it but when I installed it the
other day "selinux" was absolutely in the list of packages
to be installed.
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660[04:25:48] <simbalion> I think I was installing setools
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661[04:25:49] <jmcnaught> simbalion: there are other packages
like selinux-utils, but i asked because you wrote "apt-get
install selinux" which makes me wonder if you installed a third
party package. On debian stable, installing a package like
selinux-utils shouldn't remove xfce packages
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664[04:27:09] <simbalion> jmcnaught: Yeah something went
terribly wrong.
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665[04:27:29] <jmcnaught> simbalion: "apt-get -s install
setools selinux-utils selinux-basics"
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666[04:27:30] <simbalion> jmcnaught: it tried to remove systemd
and a bunch of other important packages
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668[04:27:39] <jmcnaught> it doesn't remove anything
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669[04:27:55] <simbalion> jmcnaught: Not going to argue about
it. I've been in here asking for help the past 3 days as a
result of what it did
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670[04:28:14] <simbalion> That is probably because some of the
packages I'm using are from backports
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674[04:29:27] <somiaj> simbalion: care to share the output of
apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net
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675[04:29:33] <somiaj> simbalion: care to share the output of
'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net
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676[04:29:42] <somiaj> arg, I didn't need to repeate that.
:/
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678[04:30:06] <simbalion> If I had more time I'd be happy
to help debug but I dont
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680[04:31:05] <simbalion> I'm willing to accept it was a
freak occurence due to my particular system make-up, and if I had
just paid more attention to what apt was saying at the time I never
would have let it do the initial damage.
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682[04:31:08] <somiaj> well if you are mixing sources you should
know about it soon and fix it.
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686[04:31:25] <simbalion> I'm not mixing sources
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687[04:31:37] <simbalion> I install some things from backports,
thats all
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689[04:32:40] <somiaj> that can sometimes cause issues due to
how backports is pinned.
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690[04:32:54] <simbalion> yes I understood the risks
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692[04:33:12] <simbalion> unfortunately some of the software I
want to use required using backports to get up to date versions
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695[04:34:06] <tx> stable in a nutshell
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696[04:34:07] <tx> :)
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697[04:34:17] <simbalion> yup
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699[04:34:58] <ceon> live is interessting
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700[04:34:58] <ceon> :-)
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702[04:35:00] <simbalion> all things considered, I think Debian
does it best
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703[04:35:06] <tx> of course
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705[04:35:13] <tx> I use stable for things I want stable
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707[04:35:20] <tx> not as a desktop OS though. it's
sid/stretch for that.
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708[04:35:27] <ceon> I love debian
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709[04:35:29] <stoned> I use stable for desktop
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710[04:35:31] <simbalion> I want my desktop to be stable
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711[04:35:31] <stoned> fulltime
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712[04:35:34] <stoned> works great
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713[04:35:43] <tx> I imagine it would!
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714[04:35:44] <somiaj> backports are fine to use, just sometimes
apt can't figure out the best solution when jessie-backport
packages are installed and it hits a version dependency issue.
Instead of looking in backports for a solution it may remove
packages.
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715[04:35:48] <simbalion> I can't stand when stuff breaks.
and I use my desktop for my primary work PC so it needs to function
when I tell it to
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716[04:35:58] <ceon> but often I got problems make easy stuff
:-(
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717[04:35:58] <ceon> I know since hmm 10 years cuos is on 632
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718[04:36:16] <stoned> I don't know why people always want
to use the latest software
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721[04:36:41] <simbalion> stoned: features. For example the
nginx that ships with jessie is very outdated, doesn't include
support for HTTP/2, for one example.
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723[04:37:03] <simbalion> the nginx in backports is up to date
tho and includes HTTP/2 support
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724[04:37:05] <ceon> port nuber stoned gg+
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725[04:37:08] <ceon> lol
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727[04:37:17] <tx> stoned: Because I am a software engineer.
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728[04:37:25] <tx> Part of that involves trying new things.
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729[04:37:36] <ceon> Fist time I meet normal people in here lol*
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730[04:37:51] <stoned> There is no such thing as normal
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731[04:38:07] <ceon> of course I study software design
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732[04:38:11] <jmcnaught> simbalion: for stuff like nginx you
should install it in a container or a VM, not directly on your
desktop system
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733[04:38:20] <simbalion> I bet most average PC users would be
happy with stable. Most people use their PC for web browsing,
youtube, and maybe email, and that's all.
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737[04:38:31] <tx> Of course.
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738[04:38:32] <ceon> hmm
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739[04:38:42] <simbalion> jmcnaught: I don't have nginx on
my desktop it was just an example. I manage a dozen servers that run
nginx tho
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740[04:38:57] <ceon> I make brake of study and work
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742[04:39:29] <ceon> I wanna do at leat 2 years Graphic stuff
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743[04:39:29] <ceon> Gang Of 4 ...
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744[04:39:29] <ceon> burnt me kind of out ..
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746[04:39:50] <jmcnaught> ceon: do you have a Debian question?
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749[04:40:03] <ceon> I was 10 year admin
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751[04:40:35] <ceon> most people use them PC at work and hate if
them have to leran like SAP - new mask...
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752[04:40:35] <ceon> private they all use just mobile
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755[04:41:41] <ceon> yes I really trie all called root at night
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756[04:41:41] <ceon> but want help - mine histoty aint work :-(
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757[04:41:41] <ceon> history
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760[04:42:17] <ceon> and I still drive debian 8
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761[04:42:22] <ceon> or Knoppix
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764[04:42:38] <ceon> I think I was born with Linux DNA lol
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766[04:43:08] <ceon> and by the way
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768[04:43:26] <ceon> non of us got much time so
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769[04:43:36] <missmbob> !offtopic
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770[04:43:36] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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772[04:43:48] <ceon> technican engineers please
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773[04:43:48] <ceon> think
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774[04:43:48] <ceon> faster
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775[04:43:48] <ceon> better
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779[04:44:13] <TomTomTosch> debhelper says no^^
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852[05:30:50] <annoymouse4210> Is it safe to install sid debian
package in jessie?
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853[05:31:08] <dvs> no
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854[05:31:08] <missmbob> no
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856[05:32:05] <annoymouse4210> then what a bout testing?
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857[05:32:17] <missmbob> no
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858[05:32:18] <annoymouse4210> what about installing testing?
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859[05:32:18] <dvs> no
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860[05:32:20] <annoymouse4210> no??
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861[05:32:50] <missmbob> !tell annoymouse4210 about
jessie-backports
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864[05:37:41] <biotim> generally not good to mix packages from
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865[05:38:01] <annoymouse4210> yesreplaced-url
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866[05:38:08] <missmbob> annoymouse4210: care to tell us which
package?
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870[05:38:49] <annoymouse4210> I need 0.6.5.8 , since I want to
change my kernel 4.8
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871[05:39:01] <missmbob> ,checkbackport zfs-dkms
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872[05:39:02] <judd> Backporting package zfs-dkms in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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874[05:39:07] <missmbob> should be easy enough
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875[05:39:14] <missmbob> !tell annoymouse4210 about ssb
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877[05:40:20] <annoymouse4210> dkms dosen't work because it
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878[05:40:59] <dvs> 4.8 isn't even released yet
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879[05:41:42] <missmbob> that's sns at it's best ;)
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880[05:42:34] <annoymouse4210> oh I see..
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1027[05:58:15] <evnmatt> More White genocide, evil Jew spam?
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1032[05:59:18] <evnmatt> Cool it with the antisemitism, guys.
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1043[06:00:26] <pingfloyd> isn't 10% newer worth dkms not
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1100[06:24:58] <jair> hello everyone, anyone have been able to
pair bluetooth devices successfully?
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1102[06:25:08] <jair> headsets? mice? for example
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1104[06:25:32] <tx> yes
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1105[06:25:39] <tx> I use my BT headphones daily
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1109[06:27:32] <Rusty1_> !mint
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1110[06:27:33] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not
supported in #debian. Please use their forums at
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1119[06:33:41] <jair> tx: hi there sorry about that
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1120[06:34:11] <tx> ?
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1121[06:34:20] <jair> tx: I am wondering if this is an issue
after some of the package upgrades in debian, but before I did pair
a file very easily
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1122[06:34:41] <jair> tx: currently I am having issues pairing
the headsets and also mice
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1123[06:34:44] <tx> try removing the device in blueman-manager
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1124[06:34:49] <tx> and re-adding
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1127[06:35:36] <tx> what are you using to manage bluetooth
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"bluetooth" package applet in the cinnamon desktop I
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1208[07:32:02] <joj[]> Is there a canonical way for adding
entries to fstab from package maintainerscripts? I.e. possibly not
just 'echo'
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1213[07:34:22] <missmbob> joj[]: you should ask them. #ubuntu
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1217[07:34:54] <tx> missmbob: just because joj[] said canonical
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1218[07:34:56] <tx> doesn't mean ubuntu lol
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1220[07:35:19] <tx> canonical actually has a dictionary meaning
too
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1224[07:38:35] <rjsalts> i.e. accepted as being accurate and
authoritative
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1229[07:40:30] <rjsalts> joj[]: I don't know of any packages
that append things to /etc/fstab. You'd presumably want it to
be idempotent
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1232[07:42:21] <no_gravity> Can a command that has been forked
with & be reattached to?
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1235[07:43:15] <missmbob> no_gravity: fg
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1236[07:44:17] <no_gravity> missmbob: "man fg" gives me
"fg [job_spec]". What is job_spec?
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1240[07:44:50] <rjsalts> no_gravity: 1 2 3 etc. If you have
multiple backgrounded processes
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1241[07:45:28] <no_gravity> rjsalts: How do I get the number?
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1243[07:46:09] <rjsalts> no_gravity: e.g. "[1]+
Stopped" when you hit ctrl-z or "[1] pid" if you do
foo&
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1245[07:46:24] <missmbob> or jobs
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1246[07:46:37] <missmbob> that'll give you the id
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1247[07:46:49] <no_gravity> "[1] pid"?
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1248[07:46:57] <missmbob> so then you'd do fg 1
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1250[07:47:30] <rjsalts>
replaced-url
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1251[07:47:36] <no_gravity> missmbob: Not sure what you mean.
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1252[07:47:43] <no_gravity> missmbob: I did this: wget 127.0.0.1
&
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1256[07:48:00] <rjsalts> [1] being the job id, and pid being the
numeric process id
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1257[07:48:02] <no_gravity> missmbob: I set it up so that wget
takes forever. So I have time trying to reattach.
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1258[07:48:12] <no_gravity> missmbob: Now how can I reattach to
wget?
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1260[07:48:41] <no_gravity> ps tells me the pid of wget, but
"fg <pid>" does not work.
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1261[07:48:45] <missmbob> i'm not sure i can be clearer. fg.
if you have multiple background jobs you type jobs to get the id.
then fg id
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1263[07:49:07] <missmbob> it's job id. not pid
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1264[07:49:11] <no_gravity> missmbob: I see. That seems to only
work in the shell where the process was started.
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1265[07:49:16] <missmbob> yes
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1267[07:49:26] <no_gravity> Can I reattach from another shell?
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1268[07:49:34] <missmbob> for that you need to look into screen
or tmux.
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1269[07:50:04] <no_gravity> missmbob: I know screen and tmux. But
my use case is: Attach to a process that was started and forked in
another shell.
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1271[07:50:49] <ransur0t> glances?
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1272[07:51:03] <no_gravity> Googling around, the solution seems
to be quite complex.
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1273[07:51:21] <no_gravity> Creating a fifo pipe and then
attaching the process to it via gdb.
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1274[07:51:30] <rjsalts> aye
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1283[07:53:26] <rjsalts> no_gravity:
replaced-url
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1286[07:53:46] <no_gravity> rjsalts: Yeah, saw that answer about
reptyr.
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1287[07:53:55] <no_gravity> rjsalts: Prefer to only use already
installed tools though.
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1289[07:55:06] <rjsalts> no_gravity: the reptyr is basically a
bunch of automation around the fifo gdb open file descriptors, etc.
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1290[07:55:15] <no_gravity> rjsalts: Yeah
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1292[07:55:55] <gebruiker> is the new flash alerady available for
linux?
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1296[07:56:28] <gebruiker> source:
replaced-url
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1309[07:59:08] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, dpkg can't find anything
on "search packages" or "find packages". Any
suggestions?
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1310[08:00:05] <rjsalts> Lady_Aleena: I think that's the
other bot, datase or something?
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1311[08:00:21] <joj[]> rjsalts: I see. I was hoping for something
similar like pam-auth-update and friends. So I'll roll my own,
thanks.
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1314[08:01:02] <Lady_Aleena> rjsalts, datese is not online.
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1315[08:01:03] <ransur0t> Lady_Aleena: apt-cache search
<package> or apt-cache policy <package>
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1316[08:01:06] <rjsalts> joj[]: You could look on debian
codesearch
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1325[08:04:54] <rjsalts> joj[]:
replaced-url
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1327[08:05:30] <Lady_Aleena> It is so hard to find something like
GTK3 themes.
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1328[08:05:37] <rjsalts> joj[]: yep, there is nothing that
touches fstab in postinst
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1344[08:10:32] <doublehp> Dillo, same version on two computers,
will show images on desktop, not on rPi; any idea ?
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1355[08:16:30] <Lady_Aleena> Um, I just tried using wine and was
just told wine command not found. Is wine a root only command?
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1357[08:16:40] <missmbob> no
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1360[08:17:51] <Lady_Aleena> So why did "wine
Downloads/npp.7.Installer.x64.exe" return "bash: wine:
command not found"?
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1362[08:18:13] <missmbob> how did you install wine?
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1365[08:18:35] <Lady_Aleena> missmbob, didn't it come with
Debian 8 install?
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1367[08:19:02] <missmbob> Lady_Aleena: it's not installed by
default, no. you have to apt-get install it
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1368[08:19:31] <Lady_Aleena> missmbob, one would think it would
come with the install.
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1370[08:19:47] <babilen> dpkg: wine
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1371[08:19:47] <dpkg> wine is, like, ine (Wine Is Not an
Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft
Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application
compatibility database:
replaced-url
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1377[08:21:14] <missmbob> Lady_Aleena: also, fyi,
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1378[08:21:24] <missmbob> installing wine for notepad++ is kind
of silly
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1381[08:22:31] <Lady_Aleena> missmbob, well notepadd++ is the
only text editor with everything I need.
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1384[08:24:34] <Lady_Aleena> Great, it won't install.
I'm so screwd.
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1387[08:25:25] <Lady_Aleena> Looks like I'll have to go nuts
learning a new text editor and getting used to not having everything
I need.
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1392[08:25:57] <missmbob> Lady_Aleena: notepadqq should be an
exact clone
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1393[08:26:07] <missmbob> but learning something new never hurt
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1394[08:26:27] <Lady_Aleena> missmbob, notepadqq is missing A
LOT!
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1403[08:28:38] <Lady_Aleena> missmbob, but my eyes will bleed for
a long while since I can't configure the styles the way I want
and I will always be fighting the text editors line wrapping.
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1416[08:31:09] <ti-mo> Morn
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1418[08:31:25] <ti-mo> Morning/afternoon/evening
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1419[08:31:46] <ti-mo> Does anyone know where the 4.6 kernel
package went in backports?
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1423[08:32:25] <ti-mo>
replaced-url
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1427[08:32:54] <ti-mo> same for
replaced-url
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1429[08:33:14] <Lady_Aleena> After I installed wine and tried in
install notepad++, I was given this message: as root, please execute
"dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
&&
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1430[08:33:14] <Lady_Aleena> apt-get install wine32"
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1432[08:34:20] <Lady_Aleena> Now whenever I apt-get update, I get
the following:
replaced-url
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1434[08:34:45] <Lady_Aleena> Is there a way to reverse the
previous to correct the apt-get update?
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1436[08:35:24] <no_gravity> When I fork a command with & -
and I see it's job #1. Do I do "disown 1" and then I
am able to exit the shell without killing it?
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1443[08:36:48] <no_gravity> Hmm.. no, that gives me "-bash:
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1444[08:36:59] <no_gravity> Strange. I see it as "1" in
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1445[08:37:26] <no_gravity> Do i have to "bg" it first?
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1462[08:41:54] <tom99> question
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1464[08:42:08] <tom99> what programs do you guys like to use for
symbolic computation and mathematical operations?
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1465[08:42:21] <tom99> i'm thinking things like maxima, but
I'm not sure if there's other ones.
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1472[08:43:29] <no_gravity> "disown" with no parameter
seems to work.
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1486[08:48:31] <Jidoor> how would i make this work scp
$remote:/path/to/target /path/to/destination
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1487[08:48:40] <Jidoor> i want to use an environment variable for
hostname
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1492[08:50:33] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: 1386 is no valid
architecture. i386 is. dpkg --remove-architecture 1386 and try again
without a typo.
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1496[08:51:59] <AciD`> Jidoor > export first?
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1508[08:53:29] <Jidoor> i have the var exported
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1509[08:53:30] <morriswaker> Anyone seen that new Denial film by
Becker Street?
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1513[08:54:01] <Jidoor> but it doesn't seem to work i guess
it doesnt know when the var name ends
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1519[08:55:43] <Jidoor> hmm it worked now
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1523[08:55:54] <Jidoor> think i just needed to make a new bash
session
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1545[09:03:44] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!
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1563[09:10:52] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: also keep in mind that
windows uses DOS newline symbols and linux uses unix ones. check if
you can save files with Unix/Linux line endings in notepad++ if you
want to use it to edit file in linux for some reason i can't
get behind.
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1566[09:12:44] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, I can.
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1567[09:12:57] <Lady_Aleena> As soon as I can get this installed.
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1579[09:19:02] <Lady_Aleena> I am getting the following message:
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line
14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. please
move it to /home/me/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf manually
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1581[09:19:27] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> Funny song:
replaced-url
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1583[09:20:15] <Lady_Aleena> So, I went to
/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf which lead me to
/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/50-user.conf which looks like:
replaced-url
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1584[09:20:22] <Lady_Aleena> Do I delete the last two lines?
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1593[09:24:40] <TomTomTosch> it's just a warning and
something that should be fixed by the maintainer fontconfig-config
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1594[09:24:49] <TomTomTosch> * of
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1595[09:25:03] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, I am getting it every
time I try to install something with wine.
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1596[09:25:21] <Lady_Aleena> 3 instances of it.
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1597[09:26:20] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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1602[09:27:15] <TomTomTosch> yes, but it's just a warning.
you can remove those lines if it bothers you, though.
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1603[09:27:30] <TomTomTosch> or comment them out instead of
deleting them.
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1604[09:27:40] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, how do I get rid of
them when they come up whenever I use wine?
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1605[09:27:56] <TomTomTosch> a line above you have an example of
how to do multiline comments in XML
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1606[09:28:25] <Lady_Aleena> Oh comment the lines out of the
50-user.conf?
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1608[09:28:36] <Lady_Aleena> I will give that a whirl.
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1610[09:28:54] <TomTomTosch> yes, if it bothers you. but it will
not make the error go away, only the fontconfig warnings.
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1613[09:29:18] <debian-alain> hi guys , could you help me ?
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1615[09:29:43] <somiaj> debian-alain: just ask your question.
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1616[09:29:52] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, thank you again...
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1617[09:30:02] <debian-alain> i have a problem with melt and
v4l2-ctl
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1620[09:30:37] <debian-alain> i have no more video and no more
sound on my system
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1621[09:30:51] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: on the n++ website they
also provide the binary in a zip file, try that if the installer
doesn't work. also, try the 32 bit version if the 64 bit one
doesn't work with wine.
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1624[09:31:12] <darxmurf> hi all
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1625[09:32:07] <debian-alain> hi darxmurf
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1628[09:32:37] <darxmurf> I have a basic SMB conf with a public
share. It's working fine on windows 7 or non updated windows 10
machines. No password is asked. Now for any obscure reason it's
kicking updated windows 8 and 10 out. Oo
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1629[09:33:01] <darxmurf> I tried now to change to : max protocol
= SMB2
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1630[09:33:04] <ranix> smb isn't working well for me lately
either
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1631[09:33:14] <ranix> I wasn't able to get it to improve by
forcing smb2
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1632[09:33:19] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, I've tried both
installers, neither work for me.
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1633[09:33:23] <darxmurf> but now I have a credential popup on
the windows
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1634[09:33:31] <ranix> it works fine for me on old versions of
windows but not on mac os
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1635[09:33:32] <darxmurf> I can enter any account and I can then
access the files
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1636[09:33:38] <darxmurf> but is there a way to avoid this popup
?
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1637[09:33:45] <ranix> haha wtf
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1638[09:33:46] <darxmurf> and force smb to use a dummy user ?
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1639[09:34:04] <ransur0t> Lady_Aleena: curious, why the need for
n++ with so many alternatives on linux?
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1642[09:34:17] <darxmurf> map to guest = Bad User
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1643[09:34:17] <darxmurf> guest account = nobody
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1644[09:34:33] <darxmurf> this maps bad logon to a dummy user
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1645[09:34:41] <debian-alain> ey guys , but what about my problem
?
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1646[09:34:44] <Lady_Aleena> ransur0t, because Linux devs
don't believe in things like specificity in syntax
highlighting.
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1649[09:34:56] <ranix> darx, can you just use a password
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1650[09:34:57] <TomTomTosch> wat? ^^
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1651[09:34:58] <darxmurf> but as this share is open, I don't
care about password :-/
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1653[09:35:03] <ranix> how many users do you have
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1656[09:35:37] <darxmurf> well, I have a script which copy files
from this share every time you launch a windows app.
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1657[09:35:48] <darxmurf> I can eventualy update this script
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1658[09:35:49] <ranix> a hack is to set up a samba share account
using the same username you log into windows with
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1659[09:35:51] <Lady_Aleena> ransur0t, it there were a *nix text
editor which could discern between a perl $scalar, @array, and %hash
I would use it.
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1660[09:35:52] <ranix> and using the same password
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1662[09:36:15] <darxmurf> impossible, too much users
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1663[09:36:20] <ranix> k
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1664[09:36:29] <darxmurf> some of them are in a AD domain
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1665[09:36:33] <darxmurf> some other not
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1666[09:36:37] <Lady_Aleena> Kate and Kwrite lump them together
which is annoying.
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1667[09:36:41] <darxmurf> but this issue is weird
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1668[09:36:48] <ransur0t> Lady_Aleena: ah, I see ... I'm no
expert on such specifics, perhaps a dev would now of an app that
meets your needs ...
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1670[09:36:57] <ransur0t> *know
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1671[09:37:31] <darxmurf> that's why I'm wondering if
there is a way to map any smb access to the same user without asking
a pass
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1672[09:37:46] <Lady_Aleena> ransur0t, the one closest was scite,
however, the config files all required root access while running
scite.
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1675[09:38:20] <ranix> darxmurf: I think if you set "guest
only = yes" in smb.conf it might stop asking for a password
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1676[09:38:23] <Lady_Aleena> Now if scite's configs did not
require root, I might use it.
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1677[09:38:25] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: you tried the wrong
editors. notepad++, Kare, Kwrite are toys. try sublime text or one
of the many free development environments.
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1678[09:38:33] <ranix> darxmurf: as long as the guest user is
valid and stuff
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1679[09:39:10] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, can I turn line
wrapping off with a mouse click?
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1683[09:40:26] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: sublime text is havily
modifiable, you can even set a key combination for that.
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1684[09:40:40] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA
SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA
SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA
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1685[09:40:47] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, um, E: Unable to locate
package sublime
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1689[09:41:09] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA
SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA
SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA SWASTIKA
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1690[09:41:15] <darxmurf> ranix: in the [global] or [share]
section ?
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1691[09:41:16] <Lady_Aleena> That guy was just banned from
##linux.
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1692[09:41:20] <ranix> just use the unicode swastika
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1696[09:41:24] <ranix> idiot
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1701[09:41:37] <ranix> search google for "unicode
swastika"
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*!*@195-154-250-205.rev.poneytelecom.eu
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1704[09:41:39] <ranix> copy paste
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1706[09:41:41] <ranix> how hard is it
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1713[09:42:50] <darxmurf> well... it's maybe hard for a
dumbass
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1714[09:43:13] <ranix> I think it works in either if you only
have the one share
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1716[09:43:23] <ranix> I'd try in share first
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1722[09:44:26] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: it's not packaged
for debian. their website has a tarball. there are a bunch of free
development environments for debian. eclipse has a plugin for perl.
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1726[09:45:56] <darxmurf> ah
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1727[09:45:56] <darxmurf> You should use security = user and map
to guest if you want to mainly setup shares without a
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1728[09:46:00] <darxmurf> password (guest shares). This is
commonly used for a shared printer server.
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1731[09:46:13] <darxmurf> let's try
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1739[09:48:19] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, maybe when I am not on
the verge of tears every ten minutes. I still have to set up KMail
and that is going to be horrible too.
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1741[09:48:39] <TomTomTosch> it's not running away.
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1742[09:48:45] <darxmurf> Helpdesk services will hate you
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1743[09:48:46] <darxmurf> if you set the map to guest parameter
this way :-).
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1744[09:48:48] <darxmurf> map pages...
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1745[09:48:49] <darxmurf> :D
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1746[09:48:51] <darxmurf> man
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1748[09:50:43] <darxmurf> anyway it's not working :-/
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1768[10:00:00] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, thank you for helping
me tonight.
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1770[10:00:44] <TomTomTosch> np^^
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1776[10:03:00] <darxmurf> ranix: the simple solution now is to
edit my windows script and add "/user:guest guest" in the
net use command
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1778[10:03:19] <ranix> cool
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1783[10:05:44] <edmont> hi
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1785[10:05:55] <edmont> I made apt-get build-dep foo and a lot of
packages installed
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1786[10:06:00] <edmont> how I remove then?
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1787[10:06:19] <Lady_Aleena> Is there a way to run something,
like VLC, from the command line and be able to shut down the
terminal emulator without shutting down VLC?
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1788[10:06:36] <somiaj> edmont: you can look at the apt log for
the full list. I'm unsure if there is a nice automatic way to
remove them though.
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1789[10:06:44] <darxmurf> Lady_Aleena: add à & after
your command ?
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1790[10:07:06] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: there are ways to
disassociate with something like nohup. Though running in screen can
help too.
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1791[10:07:24] <somiaj> darxmurf: the process is still a child of
the terminal, so if the terminal dies, the process dies
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1793[10:07:39] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: though tmux seems to be more
the rave these days than screen
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1794[10:07:58] <Lady_Aleena> The reason I asked is I was running
notepad++ from the command line, shut down the terminal emulator,
which shut down notepad++, which made me lose all the settings.
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1795[10:08:20] <darxmurf> somiaj: ah yep
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1800[10:09:29] <somiaj> Lady_Aleena: I'd suggest looking
into tmux or screen, this you can still reattach to the shell if you
kill the terminal.
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1802[10:09:56] <bibble_> installed rtorrent yesterday, and ran as
normal user. found this in the logs and want to check
everything's OK ?
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1803[10:09:59] <bibble_>
replaced-url
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1807[10:11:31] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: you can create desktop
files to start application with wine.
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1808[10:11:47] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, already have a favorite
key assigned to it.
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1813[10:15:07] <Lady_Aleena> At least I didn't have to spend
a week to get sound working this time. (That only took about 3 hours
this time.)
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1814[10:15:40] <Lady_Aleena> If that.
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1819[10:16:40] <Lady_Aleena> Now to figure out if I want to
continue to argue with Apache about my local perl libs, or give up
using local perl libs and install modules into the root libs.
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1827[10:18:49] <Lady_Aleena> It appears Apache does not honor my
.bashrc settings when it comes to my local libs, and I can not find
a doc which tells me exactly how to set them up in plain speak.
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1837[10:21:56] <Lady_Aleena> Kmail after I get some sleep, since
it is the thing which will have me broken and bleeding when I am
done.
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1839[10:22:48] <ranix> Lady_Aleena: ctrl+z in the terminal to
send it to background
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1840[10:22:54] <ranix> bg to continue execution while it's
in the background
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1845[10:23:54] <Lady_Aleena> ranix, I'm relaxing now. My
brain hurts.
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1846[10:23:57] <HelloEarth> hello
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1847[10:24:01] <HelloEarth> Someone with ELK (Elasticsearch,
logstash and kibana) syslog system experience????????
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1849[10:24:56] <ranix> I was answering your notepad++ question
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1850[10:25:07] <Lady_Aleena> ranix, thank you.
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1852[10:27:34] <Lady_Aleena> I wish I could have found a *nix
text editor I liked, but I have not. I looked at the top 6-10 when I
first started on Debian, but none were to my liking.
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1855[10:28:24] <ranix> it's called vim
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1856[10:28:33] <jelly-home> neovim!
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1857[10:28:36] <ranix> learn to like it or live in squalor until
the end of days
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1858[10:28:47] <Lady_Aleena> ranix, nope. Looked at vim and ran
screaming.
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1859[10:28:54] <ranix> you still have to learn it
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1860[10:29:28] <Lady_Aleena> ranix, short reason why?
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1861[10:29:43] <ranix> its workflow improves your productivity
immeasurably
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1863[10:29:49] <johnwhatever> emacs is better!
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1864[10:30:04] <ranix> true
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1868[10:30:59] <ranix> you should not be using a graphical editor
unless you are creating a graphical document
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1870[10:31:09] <ranix> imho
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1874[10:31:46] <Lady_Aleena> ranix, when I am copying and pasting
gads, using a text editor in a terminal emulator is a pain in the
a$$.
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1877[10:31:57] <ranix> why
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1878[10:32:02] <ranix> you can paste into vim
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1879[10:32:08] <Lady_Aleena> No mouse.
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1880[10:32:11] <johnwhatever> Lady_Aleena: use emacs
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1882[10:32:48] <Lady_Aleena> johnwhatever, emacs failed some of
my taste tests, though I can't remember what.
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1883[10:32:49] <ranix> you can use the mouse to paste into vim
from outside vim, and you can use vim to highlight and cut and copy
and paste and substitute faster than can be done with a mouse
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1884[10:33:03] <johnwhatever> if you like to run in terminal, you
can use emacs -QW
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1886[10:33:22] <ranix> there's also gvim if you are a filthy
herectic
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1887[10:33:35] <Lady_Aleena> I use nano for quick config edits,
notepad++ for writing big things.
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1895[10:35:43] <Lady_Aleena> My old computer could have been nice
and not died on me until AFTER I did the bills.
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1899[10:36:53] <Lady_Aleena> I have got to get my heretic self
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1901[10:37:55] <Lady_Aleena> ranix, nice chatting with you.
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1904[10:38:08] <Lady_Aleena> And TomTomTosch, you saved me
tonight.
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1939[10:57:03] <yareckon> hey folks, I'm trying to recover
data for a friend off of a small windows 7 ssd
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1941[10:57:38] <yareckon> its mbr format supposedly, but gparded
and fdisk show two partitions, both larger than the actual disk size
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1942[10:57:56] <yareckon> palimpsets / udisk shows an unknown
partition type
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1948[10:58:18] <yareckon> I'm pretty sure the drive is good
and uncorrupted
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1949[10:58:34] <yareckon> any Ideas what format or black magic
this might be?
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1955[11:00:08] <yareckon> the partition type is listed by fdisk
as ntfs
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1956[11:00:12] <yareckon> Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id
Type
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1957[11:00:12] <yareckon> /dev/sdb1 * 2048 209717247 209715200
800G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
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1958[11:00:12] <yareckon> /dev/sdb2 209717248 250064895 40347648
153.9G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
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1961[11:00:48] <yareckon> but the disk is only an 128GB ssd, so
an 800GB partition is unlikely ;)
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1963[11:01:22] <yareckon> anyone run into somthing like this
before?
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1970[11:04:37] <darxmurf> what happened with this disk ?
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1971[11:04:43] <ranix> cya Lady_Aleena
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1973[11:05:42] <yareckon> darxmurf, was in a normal windows 7
laptop
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1974[11:05:49] <domovoy> hi
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1976[11:05:59] <yareckon> might have had some damage
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1977[11:06:09] <yareckon> laptop power supply died as far as I
can tell
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1978[11:06:17] <yareckon> guess disk might have had some damage
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1979[11:06:27] <yareckon> but I think it a bit unlikely
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1980[11:06:35] <ranix> what kind of ssd and where's it from
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1982[11:06:47] <ranix> is it faking having 800g
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1983[11:06:47] <yareckon> crucial mx100
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1984[11:06:50] <yareckon> 128GB
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1985[11:07:00] <domovoy> i installed debian using debootstrap
--variant=minbase. I now need the "ping" command. Which
package do you recommend? iputils-ping, or inetutils-ping? why?
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1986[11:07:01] <yareckon> yeah, It's a wee fella
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1988[11:07:13] <ranix> I mean, is it intentionally faking
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1990[11:07:24] <yareckon> no, it's something wonky
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1991[11:07:25] <ranix> sometimes in used equipment you'll
see ebay's special parts
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1994[11:08:06] <darxmurf> yareckon what if you try to mount
partitions ?
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1996[11:08:26] <darxmurf> or if you plug it in another windows
machine ?
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1997[11:08:36] <yareckon> darxmurf, then would have to get a
windows box
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1998[11:08:38] <yareckon> :)
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1999[11:09:23] <ranix> it's ntfs so it might be doing any
number of strange things
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2000[11:09:41] <ranix> maybe someone used some software to clone
a partition
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2001[11:09:56] <darxmurf> I would first try to read the disk
under windows before to manipulate that on linux
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2002[11:10:14] <yareckon> yeah, am gonna tead lightly
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2003[11:10:18] <yareckon> tread
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2004[11:10:45] <yareckon> not gonna try to mount a partition with
phantom extents
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2005[11:10:47] <yareckon> ok
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2006[11:11:14] <rafalcpp> how to get debg symbols on debian
stable?
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2007[11:11:16] <darxmurf> NTFS is quite rock solid, I never lost
files
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2008[11:11:35] <darxmurf> but if something fooked up the
partition table it can be funky to recover
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2009[11:11:51] <darxmurf> there are some tools to scann the whole
disk and try to fix the partition table
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2010[11:11:52] <TomTomTosch> rafalcpp: usually by installing a
package marked -dbg
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2012[11:12:01] <rafalcpp> TomTomTosch: I mean -dbgsym
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2018[11:13:02] <ransur0t> yareckon: fixmbr ...
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2019[11:13:57] <rafalcpp> I get W: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
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2020[11:14:20] <yareckon> ransur0t, is there a read only mode for
that?
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2021[11:14:50] <ranix> yareckon: calculate the actual size of the
partition based on the number of sectors used
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2022[11:14:56] <rafalcpp> following
replaced-url
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2023[11:14:56] <ranix> the formula is in fdisk output
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2024[11:15:17] <rafalcpp> just installing -dbg from the main
repository of jessie seems to still lack some symbols
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2025[11:15:19] <yareckon> I think I may also try to stick this
drive in a usb enclusure and see if it's still weird
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2027[11:15:50] <ranix> it will be
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2028[11:15:54] <yareckon> there is some ( vanishingly small )
chance my sata adapter is gone crazy
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2029[11:16:00] <ranix> I reckon the actual size of the partition
is not the size that reports
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2031[11:16:20] <ranix> if it's misreporting how many sectors
it has it's in a super weird state
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2032[11:16:27] <yareckon> I pasted the fdisk output above
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2033[11:16:29] <ranix> check out what's happened to it with
smartctl or something
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2034[11:16:33] <ranix> paste the whole output
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2035[11:16:40] <yareckon> it does report a crapload of sectors
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2036[11:16:41] <ranix> like Units: sectors of ...
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2037[11:16:45] <ransur0t> yareckon: not sure ... long time since
I've used a recovery cd/system recovery ... I suppose that
you're already beyond the point of no return
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2038[11:17:03] <yareckon> no, I'm just starting out :)
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2040[11:17:14] <yareckon> I have no reason to think the drive is
damaged at all
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2043[11:17:56] <yareckon> maybe it is, but the old machine worked
fine, just had a power supply go bad
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2044[11:17:57] <darxmurf> yareckon do you have any windows DVD/CD
with you ?
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2045[11:18:05] <yareckon> probably somewhere
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2046[11:18:20] <ranix> that's a fairly irrelevant question
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2048[11:18:30] <darxmurf> boot on it and run the windows check
tools
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2049[11:18:37] <yareckon> What I do have is that windows defender
offline virus boot thing
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2050[11:18:48] <darxmurf> nop
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2051[11:18:48] <yareckon> that's a good idea darxmurf
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2053[11:18:59] <ranix> do you just want to fix it or do you want
to find out what happened
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2055[11:19:54] <yareckon> ranix, I want to do as little messing
around as I can, and was coming here I hoped to hear "oh thats
those new X type disks" install Y and it will read the size
correctly
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2056[11:20:10] <TomTomTosch> rafalcpp: "They are only
available for testing, unstable and experimental at this point in
time."
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2057[11:20:10] <yareckon> but it sounds like there is actually a
bit of a mystery
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2058[11:20:54] <yareckon> I am gonna make a full disk clone
(partition agnositc)
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2059[11:21:04] <yareckon> too cover my butt
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2060[11:21:23] <yareckon> then I'll find a windows disk to
boot and hook it up to
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2061[11:21:35] <yareckon> and see if it sees sane partitions
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2064[11:22:52] <yareckon> I'll report back
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2069[11:24:34] <jelly-home> yareckon: maybe the system had two
disks?
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2070[11:25:43] <yareckon> maybe -- its a massive 17in laptop, but
it has only one visible hd bay
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2074[11:26:24] <yareckon> seems unlikely a 17in laptop would have
a tiny ssd out of the box, seems like the wrong demographic
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2075[11:26:41] <yareckon> might have been a replacement part
(didn't ask)
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2092[11:34:19] <Alver> Hello. I'm running a mailserver on
debian, with spamassassin. I've got custom scores set in
/etc/spamassassin/local.cf, and restarted the service, but the
scores are not being applied. What am I missing?
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2144[12:04:58] <ransur0t> z8z: vnc, ssh
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2146[12:05:30] <z8z> ransur0t: cant figure why vnc doesn't
show top bar in any window
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2153[12:08:14] <ransur0t> hmm, not familiar with that problem. I
don't use vnc on linux (only on windows for corp. support at
work)
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2156[12:08:31] <ransur0t> i use ssh redirect to run apps, not
entire desktop
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2157[12:09:20] <z8z> ransur0t: yeah but i need those to keep
running when i close them
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2162[12:10:05] <ransur0t> hmm, is there an option in sshconfig to
keep active processes running after closing terminal session?
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2163[12:10:28] <z8z> ransur0t: no clue :|
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2175[12:15:49] <ransur0t> z8z: nohup long-running-process &,
then exit
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2176[12:15:56] <ransur0t> or use screen
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2177[12:16:48] <ransur0t> worth a try, see if either option suits
your need
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2234[12:44:28] <jgdx> what's the difference between dh_exec
and dh_exec --with-install if there's e.g. a => directive in
the .install file?
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2236[12:45:07] <jgdx> we've been assuming none, but I'm
getting “dh_install: Cannot find (any matches for)”
which either implies the => works but the file(s) are missing, or
that => does not work
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2238[12:45:51] <jgdx> on ubuntu this seems to only fail for the
most recent release (yakkety) and dh_exec 0.23
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2239[12:46:09] <Jakey3> Can some one tell me why cronjob doesnt
work
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2240[12:46:10] <Jakey3>
replaced-url
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2246[12:48:20] <bezaban> Jakey3: likely because it is being run
as root and that user can't connect to the xserver as it is run
by a different user
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2251[12:49:20] <bezaban> su user -c sceen.sh would be the
cleanest fix if you know the xserver is run by a specific user
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2252[12:49:23] <Lady_Aleena> My monitor does not have brightness
settings, and I remember there was a program which could help me
brighten my screen. Does anyone by chance know the name of it? I am
not sure, but gamma may be in the name.
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2254[12:52:06] <Jakey3> bezaban, that makes sense. the "su
user -c sceen.sh" would go in the script or cron?
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2256[12:52:29] <relaxed> Lady_Aleena: man xrandr
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2262[12:56:12] <Lady_Aleena> relaxed, my brain just went *tilt*.
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2264[12:56:46] <Lady_Aleena> relaxed, the man is horrible.
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2266[12:58:09] <Lady_Aleena> To change brightness I have to
multiply the gamma values(???) on the crtc(???) currently attached
to the output to specified floating value(???). WTH?
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2269[12:58:53] <Lady_Aleena> The writers couldn't just allow
numbers 0-9 or 1-10?
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2270[12:59:08] <Lady_Aleena> I would take 0-100
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2271[12:59:33] <Lady_Aleena> And --brightness has to come after
--output? HUH?
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2273[13:00:05] <noqnio1> hey, debian stable here. How can i find
more information about the bug that shows copies and dds finished
but still copying in the background?
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2274[13:00:24] <noqnio1> and how can i verify the copy is
complete?
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2275[13:00:32] <Lady_Aleena> And none of the examples include
--brightness so not sample usage.
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2276[13:00:36] <Lady_Aleena> s/not/no/;
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2278[13:01:07] <petn-randall> noqnio1: What still copies in the
background? Can you elaborate?
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2282[13:02:01] <noqnio1> if i drag&drop something big in a
usb drive, when the progress bar disappears, the copy hasn't
finished
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2283[13:02:17] <noqnio1> if i dismount and unplug the usb, my
data is corrupt
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2284[13:02:29] <noqnio1> and it has happened to me with dd before
as well
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2285[13:02:42] <TomTomTosch> that would depend on the file
manager you use.
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2288[13:03:16] <noqnio1> it happened also on dd, and i read
somewhere that it was some kind of kernel issue but i forgot, so im
looking for more info
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2289[13:03:21] <petn-randall> noqnio1: If you run dd you need to
run 'sync' at the end for it to be on disk, or run dd with
the fdatasync option.
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2290[13:03:38] <petn-randall> noqnio1: For the other issue, this
shouldn't happen, and it doesn't happen for me.
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2292[13:04:09] <noqnio1> hmm maybe i am doing something out of
the ordinary
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2293[13:04:15] <noqnio1> does pv sync by itself?
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2295[13:04:27] <petn-randall> noqnio1: pv?
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2296[13:04:47] <noqnio1> it is like a progress monitor for pipes
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2297[13:04:54] * Lady_Aleena ponders tweeting author of xrandr.
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2298[13:05:01] <noqnio1> but you can use it directly like pv <
in.iso > /dev/out
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2300[13:05:15] <TomTomTosch> because you have troubles
understanding a manpage?
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2302[13:05:28] <bezaban> Jakey3: I usually do it in the cron :)
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2303[13:05:33] <bezaban> Jakey3: but shouldn't matter
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2305[13:05:46] <petn-randall> noqnio1: pipe viewer? I'm
assuming not, unless you have a fdatasync option.
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2306[13:06:33] <noqnio1> maybe that where it all went wrong..
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2307[13:06:39] <Jakey3> bezaban, thanks
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2308[13:06:51] <noqnio1> but i do indeed have a problem when
copying and pasting stuff on nautilus
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2309[13:07:12] <TomTomTosch> Lady_Aleena: the man page is pretty
clear. you use --output to select an output and use --brightness
<some float> to multiply the gamma values
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2310[13:07:13] <petn-randall> noqnio1: Could be. But are you sure
it successfully unmounted before you pulled the device out?
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2312[13:07:38] <noqnio1> i don't remember :)
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2317[13:08:01] <petn-randall> noqnio1: If that is the case, the
corruption could be coming from somewhere else. Is the filesystem
still marked as dirty when you plug it back in?
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2319[13:08:37] <noqnio1> i rewrote it.. but i will check that out
next time
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2322[13:09:17] <petn-randall> noqnio1: You should get some
feedback that the disk is still writing. I don't use nautilus,
but xfce's thunar, and it'll show a popup when you try to
unmount it ala "The disk is still writing, please don't
unplug until this message disappears".
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2325[13:10:05] <noqnio1> haven't seen such thing :D
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2328[13:10:39] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, what is crtc?
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2333[13:11:52] <TomTomTosch> a video controller
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2335[13:12:24] <TomTomTosch> xrandr --output VGA1 --brightness
1.2 to make it a bit brighter for example.
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2337[13:12:49] <TomTomTosch> you can you tab-complete to select
an output.
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2338[13:12:53] <TomTomTosch> * can use
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2342[13:14:03] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, I was struck by typo
again.
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2343[13:14:37] <Lady_Aleena> *typo I didn't notice until I
looked really close.
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2345[13:15:19] <Lady_Aleena> Now will this stick, or do I have to
modify something to make it happen each boot?
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2347[13:15:42] <TomTomTosch> it does not get saved.
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2350[13:17:45] <Lady_Aleena> So I need to store this somewhere to
load each boot. .bashrc maybe?
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2353[13:18:49] <TomTomTosch> no, not bashrc. i use let lightdm
call a script after boot to call xrandr.
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2354[13:18:57] <TomTomTosch> s/use//
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2355[13:19:55] <TomTomTosch> have to go, you will manage.
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2357[13:21:48] <Lady_Aleena> TomTomTosch, I will probably sleep
soon. Have a good day!
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2360[13:25:49] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: modern DMs do source
~/.xprofile
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2361[13:26:14] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, does that do in my home
dir?
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2362[13:26:24] <Lady_Aleena> Yes it does the ~/ tells me that.
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2363[13:26:40] <teraflops> yeah that's what ~/ means
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2366[13:27:03] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, I'm more used to
seeing $HOME/stuff than ~/stuff
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2367[13:27:15] <strixdio> having trouble getting my Ethernet
controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI
Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15) working. Anyone have
experience with this?
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2370[13:27:40] <Alver> strixdio: I believe I have one or two
machines with that series of controller, yes. What's not
working with it?
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2371[13:28:05] <strixdio> Alver: doesn't show up at all.
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2372[13:28:11] <strixdio> except lspci of course.
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2376[13:29:55] <Lady_Aleena> I may have to tackle .xprofile
later. Google failed to find me a simple page telling me how to
write and get to run .xprofile. Shouldn't there be a page on
the Debian site for .xprofile?
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2378[13:30:24] <Alver> strixdio: modules loaded? (not sure which
modules are required, but... let me check)
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2380[13:31:09] <Alver> ... ah, no, the machine I have now
isn't Realtek based for ethernet
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2382[13:31:36] <strixdio> ah
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2388[13:33:02] <strixdio> Alver: everything I see says to
blacklist r8169. Not sure what to use if I'm doing that.
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2401[13:41:13] <rafalcpp> from command line how to allow user
"Mark" to become root without password (sudo su)?
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2402[13:41:41] <rafalcpp> e.g. how to append "mark
ALL=ALL......" line to visudo
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2404[13:41:50] <rafalcpp> from a script
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2407[13:42:29] <FinalX> rafalcpp: for scripts you probably
_really_ want to limit the commands it can do, and not just simple
ALL=ALL
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2408[13:42:45] <FinalX> but: mark ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
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2410[13:42:48] <rafalcpp> FinalX: yeah I can write better line.
but how to put it non-interactively
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2411[13:42:48] <FinalX> to answer your question
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2414[13:43:21] <FinalX> eh, ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
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2416[13:44:36] <rafalcpp> just create a new file in
/etc/sudoers.d/ ? is there a need to call some update- command
later?
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2417[13:44:44] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, btw, when you say DMs, I
take it you do not mean dungeon masters.
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2419[13:46:20] <jelly-home> rafalcpp: no need, but if you create
something with incorrect syntax sudo may just stop working
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2421[13:46:39] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: Why not just give
'mark' the root password? Because that's what
you're effectively doing.
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2422[13:47:12] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: it's VM, no root
password there
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2424[13:47:32] <rafalcpp> or actually LXC
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2425[13:48:00] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: What, in the big picture,
do you actually want to achieve? Because you're using a quite
contrived way to surpass user/permission separation in Linux.
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2426[13:48:22] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: if user logs into LXC
using on-target, he wants to easily become root from that point
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2427[13:48:56] <rafalcpp> instead of exiting givne shell, and
again entering LXC this time as root
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2451[14:06:09] <troy__> Hello, I've been working on a
project that requires a debian package for the past months. I have a
question which I wasn't able to find an answer in the
documentation. Is it possible to pass a paramater while installing
the package via apt in such a way to exclude certain files?
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2457[14:07:49] <troy__> For example, there are few files under
/etc/supervisor/conf.d/ and I want to exclude 1 file from there in
certain cases
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2463[14:10:39] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: Why not just give them
root? You're just adding a manual step to the process that just
annoys users and doesn't improve security.
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2489[14:19:48] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: heh. I meant lightdm gdm
etcetera
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2492[14:20:20] <Lady_Aleena> teraflops, what does the dm stand
for?
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2494[14:20:46] <towo^work> display manager
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2495[14:20:47] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: it's not for
security, they can log in as root. They do not wish to exit console
and go in again as root. (you can not have two consoles at once in
this LXC setup)
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2497[14:21:14] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: display manager
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2501[14:21:31] <teraflops> holy lag
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2509[14:21:58] <teraflops> Lady_Aleena: dungeon master is fine
too ;)
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2511[14:23:09] <Lady_Aleena> Ah...
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2517[14:26:13] <petn-randall> or Debian Maintainer
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2539[14:39:02] <Lady_Aleena> This is as bad as trying to
abbreviate terminal emulator and text editor.
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2541[14:39:33] <Lady_Aleena> Both would be TE, so confusion would
erupt.
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2543[14:40:30] <jelly-home> "terminal emulator" is
shortened to "xterm"
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2546[14:41:11] <Lady_Aleena> jelly-home, that would lead to
confusion because there is an actual program called xterm.
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2547[14:41:13] <jelly-home> DD also has different meanings, but
context is important
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2549[14:41:28] <jelly-home> Lady_Aleena: and there's an
actual xerox company
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2551[14:42:06] <jelly-home> xterm as a genericized term (pun not
indented)
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2552[14:42:12] <Lady_Aleena> Is there any way to use Xerox other
than to be for the company?
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2554[14:42:41] <jelly-home> but anyway.
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2555[14:42:43] <jelly-home> !DM
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2556[14:42:43] <dpkg> DM means Display Manager, the app that
brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session.
<lightdm>, <gdm3>, <xdm>, <kdm>,
<wdm>, pdm, login.app and <slim> are all examples of
display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable
the DM. Or Debian Maintainer:
replaced-url
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2557[14:42:47] <jelly-home> :-)
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2573[14:47:55] <troy__> anyone is able to help with what I
mentioned above?
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2576[14:48:33] <dhalgren> hi! not sure this is the best place for
this q -- anyone using very lightweight browsers? I'm looking
for an alternative to surf, to use on an ancient laptop (celeronM
1.4ghz, 512mb ram) as its a bit unstable to me
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2577[14:48:40] <dhalgren> so any recommendations?
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2582[14:50:35] <TomTomTosch> dhalgren: midori seems to be popular
for that usecase.
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2586[14:51:18] <teraflops> os midori still maintained?
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2587[14:51:28] <petn-randall> lynx?
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2588[14:51:37] <teraflops> is*
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2591[14:52:01] <abrotman> Midori was in Jessie I'm fairly
certain, but as one might expect, lots of things don't work
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2592[14:52:10] <abrotman> judd: versions midoria
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2593[14:52:11] <judd> No package named 'midoria' was
found in amd64.
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2594[14:52:12] <abrotman> judd: versions midori
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2595[14:52:13] <judd> Package: midori on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie-backports: 0.5.11-ds1-2~bpo8+1; stretch:
0.5.11-ds1-4; sid: 0.5.11-ds1-4; experimental: 0.5.12~wk2-exp1
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2597[14:52:26] <abrotman> Amaya is long gone I'm pretty sure
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2600[14:52:37] <teraflops> well, xchat is in jessie too...
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2601[14:52:45] <dhalgren> petn-randall: I do use w3m most of the
time actually :) but for some websites, I need to fire up a
graphical one. Its actually quite practical, I just press a shortcut
over a link and it pops up reasonably quickly
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2608[14:54:44] <dhalgren> TomTomTosch: thx, I'm gonna check
it out again. its been a while, so I don't remember exactly,
had some issue w it about a year ago
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2609[14:55:13] <TomTomTosch> well, maybe not if it's dead.
it has been a while since i used it^^
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2613[14:56:22] <Lady_Aleena> Have a good day everyone...
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2617[14:57:27] <TomTomTosch> interestingly, it migrated to
testing a month ago, so maybe there is still demand^^
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2623[15:00:03] <dhalgren> :) nice
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2624[15:00:06] <teraflops> ,v dnssec-trigger
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2625[15:00:07] <judd> Package: dnssec-trigger on amd64 -- jessie:
0.13~svn685-4; sid: 0.13~svn685-5; stretch: 0.13~svn685-5
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2643[15:06:01] <magnum> hi, what package is adwaita theme
inc|uded?
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2644[15:06:23] <tx> gnome-themes-standard
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2645[15:06:26] <tx> if I recall correctly.
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2646[15:06:58] <magnum> thanks
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2647[15:07:10] <tx> all good :)
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2676[15:21:21] <p3nt4> !jeff
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2677[15:21:21] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, jeff is a
programmer php.
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2678[15:21:34] <tx> !dpkg
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2679[15:21:35] <dpkg> rumour has it, dpkg is the program used by
Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also
ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also
called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
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2763[15:58:12] <alpha_one_x86> Hello, what will be the next
stable, sid o strech?
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2764[15:58:28] <tx> sid is always sid
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2765[15:58:31] <tx> it never becomes stable
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2766[15:58:35] <tx> stretch will be next :)
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2767[15:58:39] <beastwick> sid always breaks his toys
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2768[15:58:45] <tx> yeah :)
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2769[15:59:06] <bezaban> sid can't have nice things
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2770[15:59:15] <tx> well
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2771[15:59:18] <tx> sid has all the nice things
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2772[15:59:21] <tx> they just break a lot
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2861[16:39:09] <fas3r> Hello
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2869[16:40:20] <fas3r> I have a 2 broadcom BCM5719. The interface
are going UP before the OS is booting but when debian is loaded, I
have one of the 4interfaces which is not going up.
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2872[16:40:37] <fas3r> any idea ?
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2873[16:40:41] <tx> are you using network-manager
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2874[16:40:49] <fas3r> all other interface are up without a
glich..
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2875[16:40:49] <tx> or a configuration in /etc/network/interface
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2876[16:40:52] <fas3r> nop
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2878[16:41:05] <tx> what are you using to configure them then
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2879[16:41:10] <fas3r> basically eth0 is down but eth1, 2 and 3
are up.
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2882[16:41:48] <Akuli> what's the output of your
/sbin/ifconfig?
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2883[16:42:01] <tx> /sbin/ifconfig -a please
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2884[16:42:10] <fas3r> I do bonding
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2885[16:42:11] <tx> because the bad one is down :P
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2888[16:42:29] <tx> ah, could it be that the additional interface
isn't part of the bond?
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2889[16:42:31] <fas3r> also I can only access it from the IDRAC
card it will be difficcult to post any outpute.
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2890[16:42:34] <Akuli> does ifconfig only show up ones by
default?
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2891[16:42:35] <tx> what is the contents of your interfaces file?
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2892[16:42:36] <fas3r> tx: it is
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2893[16:42:39] <Akuli> interesting
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2895[16:42:58] <Akuli> fas3r, use a pastebin :)
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2896[16:43:00] <fas3r> all interface are up beside eth0
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2897[16:43:15] <Akuli> /sbin/ifconfig -a | netcat termbin.com
9999
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2898[16:43:20] <fas3r> Akuli: from a java applet to get remote
access ?
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2900[16:43:32] <Akuli> what?
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2901[16:43:34] <fas3r> all the interface are down I dont have
internet on this server
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2902[16:43:47] <greycat> 10:43 fas3r|#debian> all interface
are up beside eth0
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2904[16:43:57] <fas3r> greycat: I dont have internet
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2908[16:44:03] <fas3r> on this server
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2909[16:44:16] <Akuli> so can you pastebin your ifconfig to us so
we can help you get it working?
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2910[16:44:22] <greycat> You said "all interfaces are up
besides eth0" and then LESS THAN A MINUTE later you said
"all the interface are down".
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2912[16:44:36] <tx> The situation seems to have made a turn for
the worse quickly
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2913[16:44:37] <fas3r> I deployed 2 servers already
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2914[16:44:42] <fas3r> sae configuration
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2916[16:44:48] <fas3r> same configuration
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2917[16:44:54] <tx> could it be a hardware / cabling issue
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2919[16:45:28] <tx> have you tried switching cables to see if
that fixes it
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2921[16:45:37] <fas3r> nop it's not hardware, I just
reinstalled the OS. it was working before
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2922[16:45:50] <tx> so if it was working before
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2923[16:45:53] <tx> and now it isn't
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2924[16:45:57] <tx> the configuration isn't the same.
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2925[16:46:04] <fas3r> also at the boot, all the led are blinking
normally
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2926[16:46:14] <Akuli> maybe the distro/release isn't the
same?
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2927[16:46:18] <fas3r> it is.
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2928[16:46:21] <fas3r> debian jessy
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2929[16:47:40] <darxmurf> is there a way in a ldap
authentification to add a ldap filter ?
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2931[16:47:55] <tx> you'd hope so
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2932[16:47:58] <tx> that's half the point
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2933[16:48:00] <darxmurf> we have a huge ldap directory here and
some guys got multiple accounts
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2936[16:48:14] <darxmurf> and there is a field in the ldap like
"primaryAccount=1"
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2938[16:48:33] <fas3r> tx, I also tried an centos and it's
working
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2940[16:48:36] <tx> darxmurf: it depends on how you have your
ldap stuff configured
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2941[16:48:49] <tx> usually there is a searchFilter field
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2942[16:48:49] <darxmurf> samba+AD+ldap
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2943[16:48:53] <greycat> what stops me from making 7 accounts,
each one with a different name, and each one with primaryAccount=1 ?
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2948[16:49:03] <darxmurf> tx: in the ldap.cnf ?
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2952[16:49:55] <alpha_one_x86> Into stretch, why it don't
found proftpd?
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2954[16:50:03] <alpha_one_x86>
replaced-url
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2955[16:50:03] <greycat> ,v proftpd
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2956[16:50:04] <judd> No package named 'proftpd' was
found in amd64.
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2957[16:50:05] <fas3r> tx: so I can confirm that's not an
hardware issue
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2959[16:50:13] <greycat> ,v proftpd-basic
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2960[16:50:14] <judd> Package: proftpd-basic on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.3.4a-5+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.3.4a-5+deb7u3; jessie:
1.3.5-1.1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.3.5-1.1+deb8u1; sid: 1.3.5a-1
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2962[16:50:44] <greycat> You can go ask the stretch support
channel why it's not currently in stretch. We can't know,
because the web page we used to use for this is broken.
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2963[16:50:49] <tx> darxmurf: are you using saslauth?
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2965[16:51:17] <alpha_one_x86> have you the exacte stretch
support channel name?
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2966[16:51:25] <greycat> "Latest update: Mon, 04 Jul 2016
08:23:13 GMT"
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2967[16:51:29] <greycat> !debian-next
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2968[16:51:29] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2969[16:51:43] <alpha_one_x86> thanks
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2972[16:52:17] <darxmurf> tx: hmmm don't think so
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2974[16:52:44] <darxmurf> no daemon running
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2975[16:53:40] <tx> hmm
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2976[16:53:50] <tx> I've only set it up using saslauthd
pass-through
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2977[16:53:50] <darxmurf> should I add SSSD over this ?
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3001[16:59:15] <darxmurf> time to leave, I'll check that
tomorrow :-)
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3002[16:59:18] <darxmurf> thanks !
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3010[17:01:55] <fas3r> tx: the only thing that I see is that the
interface get "interrupt :17 " when I check it with
ifconfig
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3011[17:02:07] <tx> that's okay
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3012[17:02:17] <fas3r> that's the only difference with the
other card.
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3013[17:02:23] <fas3r> interface sorry
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3023[17:06:20] <fas3r> alright fuck this shit, good by debian,
hello centos
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3024[17:06:35] <slax0r> problem solved?
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3025[17:06:38] <fas3r> no
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3037[17:10:31] <petn-randall> I'm sure they're more
than happy to welcome such a personality to their user base.
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3039[17:11:09] <greycat> "I have a problem" "Show
the details" "No" ... time passes ... "Fuck this
you guys suck!"
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3041[17:11:35] <tx> just wait
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3042[17:11:43] <tx> he will realize that centos is very different
and come crawling back
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3043[17:12:06] <jelly-home> I hope centos will work just fine for
them.
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3044[17:12:09] <greycat> We still won't be able to help him
from vague hand-waving descriptions.
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3045[17:12:15] <tx> of course
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3046[17:12:56] <jelly-home> EL has saner defaults for quite a few
enterprisey options, that sometimes saves you some trouble compared
to debian
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3050[17:14:02] <petn-randall> Well, if you get yelled at by a
user it sometimes helps to know that you're getting paid ... in
the enterprise context that is.
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3051[17:14:46] <jelly-home> but bonding is a pita on both
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3067[17:21:19] <phapsubb9> hello
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3068[17:21:24] <tx> hi!
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3075[17:22:24] <phapsubb9> i'm new, i wish everyone help me
use Kali, please
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3077[17:22:55] <phapsubb9> i'm not know begin where?
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3078[17:22:56] <greycat> !kali
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3079[17:22:56] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3088[17:24:45] <phapsubb9> i'm have install Kali Linux
2016.2. but i can't use
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3089[17:24:56] <tx> please ask in #kali-linux
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3090[17:25:01] <tx> This is for debian support.
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3097[17:25:36] <phapsubb9> begin, i want to use any tool in Kali
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3098[17:26:01] <missmbob> phapsubb9: what part of ask
#kali-linux, not here, do you not understand?
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3099[17:26:23] <BishamonX> Hey, guys. Was Steam pulled out of
Debian Stretch?
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3103[17:26:38] <missmbob> ,v steam
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3104[17:26:39] <teraflops> missmbob: I think it's a
communication issue
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3105[17:26:39] <greycat> !tel BishamonX about debian-next
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3106[17:26:39] <judd> No package named 'steam' was
found in amd64.
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3107[17:26:43] <greycat> !tell BishamonX about debian-next
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3108[17:26:47] <missmbob> damn it's i386, always forget
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3109[17:26:49] <tx> !debian-next
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3110[17:26:49] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3114[17:27:23] <missmbob> BishamonX: odds are you just have to
add i386 arch.
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3115[17:27:55] <tx> yes
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3117[17:28:04] <tx> the steam UI is 32-bit
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3118[17:28:07] <tx> ;)
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3119[17:28:16] <BishamonX> Thanks for the info, guys. Wasn't
aware this channel was for Stable only, apologies.
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3125[17:32:45] <banchod0789> hello
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3126[17:33:04] <tx> olleh!
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3130[17:33:25] <teraflops> olé?
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3132[17:33:35] <BishamonX> lol
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3151[17:38:24] <banchod0789> let's talk about hacking
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3153[17:38:39] <petn-randall> banchod0789: Let's not.
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3154[17:38:51] <tx> I prefer petn-randall's idea.
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3156[17:39:00] <petn-randall> banchod0789: Congrats on installing
Kali. Support is in #kali-linux.
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3157[17:39:08] <banchod0789> then what kind of topic you want
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3158[17:39:17] <petn-randall> banchod0789: Did you read the
topic?
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3160[17:39:26] <banchod0789> what ?
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3161[17:39:28] * abrotman looks in ..
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3162[17:39:29] <tx> Do you know where you are?
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3163[17:39:40] <banchod0789> you tell me
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3165[17:39:48] <abrotman> banchod0789: Do you need help with
Debian?
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3166[17:39:50] <tx> #debian, a channel for debian stable
discussion.
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3167[17:39:51] <banchod0789> #debian
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3168[17:39:52] <petn-randall> banchod0789: Type /topic in your
IRC client.
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3169[17:40:05] <banchod0789> oh yeah
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3170[17:40:23] <banchod0789> how did you know that i have
installed kali
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3172[17:40:34] <abrotman> banchod0789: Do you need help with
Debian or not?
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3173[17:40:35] <tx> because you're a "hacker"
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3174[17:40:38] <abrotman> this isn't a social channel
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3175[17:40:42] <banchod0789> yes
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3176[17:40:53] <abrotman> banchod0789: then please ask your
question, otherwise, move on
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3177[17:41:14] <banchod0789> how to install tar.xz file
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3178[17:41:17] <petn-randall> banchod0789: Because all the
clueless skiddies who installed Kali end up here when opening their
IRC client.
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3179[17:41:25] <abrotman> banchod0789: in which OS?
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3180[17:41:33] <banchod0789> kali linux
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3184[17:41:44] <abrotman> banchod0789: you've been told, use
#kali-linux, have a nice day
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3185[17:41:44] <greycat> banchod0789: kali support is in
#kali-linux
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3204[17:50:16] <croddy> does kali default to joining this channel
or something?
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3206[17:50:24] <croddy> or is that a feature of its audience
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3207[17:50:45] <tx> probably the latter
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3240[18:06:33] <dax> croddy: it's a feature of its audience,
they do the same with #ubuntu
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3251[18:09:24] <somiaj> croddy: most likely depends if the
derivative wants to edit the irc client package or just put it into
their repo.
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3252[18:09:34] <somiaj> and they would ahve to edit each one.
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3253[18:09:38] <teraflops> I don't use kali I wonder what
happens when you start hexchat and join to freenode
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3256[18:10:16] <hmpf1> Hi
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3257[18:10:16] <hmpf1> where is the right place to configure me
network to try DHCP and then fall back to link local when it does
not get a lease. But to keep trying DHCP in the background.
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3265[18:11:45] <somiaj> hmpf1: sounds like you want to use
something like network manager.
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3268[18:12:17] <hmpf1> I dont have a gui. cmi only.
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3270[18:12:33] <somiaj> you don't need a gui for network
manager, and can control it via nm-cli
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3271[18:12:34] <tx> use nmcli then
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3272[18:12:45] <teraflops> somiaj: or nmtui
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3273[18:12:48] <somiaj> but by default the debian interfaces file
is a one time thing, it runs at start but won't run in the
background
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3275[18:13:00] <somiaj> maybe using dhcpcd over dhclient would be
all you need to fix this problem.
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3276[18:13:03] <teraflops> nmtui is way more intuitive
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3278[18:13:24] <somiaj> this way the dhcp client is a daemon and
if it doesn't get an address it can keep trying (unsure on if
it can default to alocal address until tha time)
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3279[18:13:28] <teraflops> hmpf1: excuse my ignorance what's
cmi?
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3281[18:13:53] <hmpf1> oh, sorry. cli. *cough*
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3282[18:14:24] <somiaj> hmpf1: I think i would first look into
dhcpcd as your dhcp client, see if it does what you want since it
will run in the background. If not you'll need some daemon to
manage your network.
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3283[18:15:01] <hmpf1> well, thanks for the hints. that gives me
some ideas what to look for.
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3375[18:39:29] <hmpf1> somiaj: dhcpcd seem to be just what I
need. Thanks again.
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