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1[00:00:15] <jhutchins> Klaus_Dieter: You might pastebin the
script ( paste.debian.net ) and maybe the full output of the
attempted run. It was not clear what you said happened when you ran
the script directly. Might pastebin that as well.
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2[00:00:18] <Klaus_Dieter> ahmed751995: apt-get remove eclipse
--- the start of many great software projects.
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5[00:00:27] <jhutchins> ahmed751995: What about it? When was
it released?
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7[00:01:20] <ahmed751995> jhutchins, 4 months ago
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8[00:01:50] <jhutchins> Oh. Java. That's why.
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9[00:01:53] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: this is the script:
replaced-url
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13[00:03:32] <ahmed751995> jhutchins, what is wrong with java ?
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14[00:05:34] <jhutchins> ahmed751995: Much, but developers tend
to maintain their own environment rather than rely on packaging for
this very reason, they want the latest whiz-bang complete with all
the shiney new bugs.
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16[00:07:14] <ahmed751995> hmmmm, thanks jhutchins
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19[00:09:25] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: when running the script
directly, the error message (line 3) in the log does not appear.
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38[00:13:58] <jhutchins> Klaus_Dieter: Why are you using at?
Why not just run the backup directly from the script?
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48[00:15:14] <Klaus_Dieter> jhutchins: because udev will block
for the runtime of the script. the script may move al ot of data but
that takes time. I do not want to block udev for > 1 minute.
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55[00:20:12] <MaBunny> what is a good system stats viewer for
xfce
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56[00:20:26] <MaBunny> like tht in gnome, system something
viewer
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57[00:20:33] <MaBunny> or something
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59[00:20:46] <Klaus_Dieter> top
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60[00:20:53] <MaBunny> i hav htop
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61[00:21:00] <MaBunny> but i want something more
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62[00:21:04] <MaBunny> something gui
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64[00:21:11] <Klaus_Dieter> there is a xfce process monitor
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65[00:21:12] <Unit193> xfce4-taskmanager?
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66[00:21:21] <MaBunny> ok ill search
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67[00:21:28] <Klaus_Dieter>
replaced-url
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68[00:21:50] <Unit193> Personally I just use htop, ps, kill,
etc.
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70[00:22:10] <MaBunny> hmm
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71[00:22:18] <MaBunny> i hav to setup conky
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72[00:23:06] <Unit193> I have my weather script and gcalcli in
it, nothing interesting.
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73[00:23:31] <MaBunny> do you mind sharing the weather one?
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75[00:24:12] <Klaus_Dieter> hm. conky is nice but when on
battery I get 1h less run-time when it is running compared to when
it is not although I hardly ever see it.
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76[00:24:14] <Unit193> I mean it's pretty awful and works
best if in teh US, but sure I can. bash script. ;3
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78[00:24:33] <MaBunny> yeah it will do
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79[00:24:42] <MaBunny> i hardly know any bash or lua :3
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81[00:25:59] <Unit193>
replaced-url
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82[00:26:02] <SuperTramp83> Klaus_Dieter: I find it consumes a
lot less resources when set to update each 2 secs instead of 1,
which is what I used to run it as. Have you tried that?
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84[00:26:46] <MaBunny> thnx
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85[00:26:46] <SuperTramp83> MaBunny: I can share my conky if
you want, it's nice and simple :P
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87[00:26:56] <MaBunny> SuperTramp83: cool, do share
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90[00:28:21] <Klaus_Dieter> SuperTramp83: good idea, let me
review my config
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91[00:28:27] <SuperTramp83> MaBunny: here u are ->
replaced-url
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92[00:28:36] <SuperTramp83> save as .conkyrc in /home
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93[00:28:37] <Klaus_Dieter> 1.5 seconds
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95[00:28:53] <MaBunny> thnx SuperTramp83
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96[00:29:00] <SuperTramp83> yw
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97[00:29:14] <SuperTramp83> Klaus_Dieter: that's good too,
better that each sec..
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98[00:29:20] <SuperTramp83> *than
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99[00:30:09] <Klaus_Dieter> I have conky show me my calendar
and todo list on the desktop (khal / todoman) but I think I only
need that updated once every couple of minutes. so going from 5s
there to 10 minutes. we'll see how that fares.
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102[00:32:24] <SuperTramp83> MaBunny: you will probably want to
change the value of 'own_window_transparent', if you use
transparency, I have fake transparency, in that I just set the conky
to have the same background as the wallpaper, heh
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106[00:33:24] <Wulf> Help! My gnome-shell process consumes 100%
cpu. But everything appears to be working. Is that a known problem?
Any fix?
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109[00:34:11] <Wulf> never mind, I guess strace shows me
something interesting
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110[00:34:38] <Klaus_Dieter> o_O
open("/var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ", O_WRONLY) = -1 EROFS
(Read-only file system)
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111[00:34:48] <Klaus_Dieter> it is mounted RW
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114[00:35:02] <Klaus_Dieter> I just wrote to the darn file.
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128[00:45:15] <braingain> help i dont get why my netstat says
listening but nmap says ports closed. iptables nonexisting. any
help?
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145[00:55:11] <braingain> xorg is listening on port 6000 but
openness isnt visible to nmap either locally or remotely
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148[00:56:48] <enzeperix> hello / salutare pulime
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151[00:58:56] <enzeperix> so i have installed Debain Stretch
(9.2 i think ) on a PC with i3 4th generation , 12GB RAM and a
Nvidia GPU ( GT 630 i think ..)
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152[00:59:18] <enzeperix> i choosed KDE as a DE
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153[00:59:25] <enzeperix> and is buggy as shit
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154[00:59:38] <enzeperix> is flikkering like crap
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156[01:00:08] <dTal> enzeperix: I suspect that KDE really
stresses graphics drivers
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159[01:00:54] <dTal> I've recently switched to KDE and I
too find it horribly unstable, but mostly only the graphical
components
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162[01:01:19] <enzeperix> @dTal idk man you might be right
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166[01:01:44] <enzeperix> i didn't customised too much , i
don't have crazy shiny effects
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168[01:03:21] <enzeperix> dTal: so you suggest changind the DE
to a lighter one
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177[01:05:53] <dTal> enzeperix: Perhaps. KDE is reeeeealy nice
though, so maybe try googling your graphics drivers, see if
it's a know issue / if there's a workaround
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179[01:07:10] <enzeperix> yea that's why i picked this one
i like it very much ...
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180[01:08:20] <enzeperix> and i installed the build with the
non-free software packages ( i thought there will be the necessary
drivers there )
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183[01:09:36] <enzeperix> i will dig deeper , on google about
this issue , i just tought that here i will find a shourcut twoards
the resolution
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185[01:10:40] <enzeperix> thanks anyway for support man , i see
there is not much activity here
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186[01:10:48] <enzeperix> good night
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227[01:38:50] <noahmg123> Can I safely zero out my entire hard
drive and then install Debian from a USB stick?
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232[01:41:17] <braingain> noahmg123: make sure to be able to
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236[01:42:15] <noahmg123> braingain: is there a possibility of
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right? MBR is on the drive. Youll kill the drive, youll kill the MBR
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259[01:52:06] <dTal> noahmg123: a drive is just a bag of bits,
you can zero it just fine no worries
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262[01:52:29] <dTal> you won't break anything and debian
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264[01:53:14] <dTal> you will erase any boot code that already
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265[01:53:36] <annadane> right
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266[01:53:42] <annadane> i don't think booting is a
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272[01:56:20] <noahmg123> Thank you.
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278[02:00:25] <annadane> of course you don't need to zero
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279[02:00:35] <annadane> if you select entire disk it'll
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329[02:48:53] <foul_owl> What's a good media player that
shows milliseconds? Thanks!
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331[02:52:10] <Sveta> foul_owl: avidemux
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333[02:54:33] <foul_owl> Thank you, I will try that
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336[02:58:34] <themill> (of course you hit the frame rate pretty
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378[03:19:43] <tsukiyomi> currently I have debian/windows and
i'm planning to install kali as well. I'm using grub as
bootloader. Imagine I install kali and then i want to remove it by
deleting the kali partition, will I be able to boot into debian like
I normally do?
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384[03:21:12] <Sveta> you can use 'grub-install'
command to specify which partition grub bootloader is using, I think
it would keep using the debian one because that's where you
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387[03:22:00] <tsukiyomi> Sveta: If kali doesn't reinstall
grub, yes
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460[04:13:45] <_rubik> Is there a recommended way to setup full
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462[04:14:37] <aedinius> _rubik: I think it needs to be done at
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470[04:16:51] <_rubik> aedinius: Damn. That would require a full
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472[04:18:06] <_rubik> I'm assuming I could use rsync to
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473[04:18:09] <themill> If you've got enough space you can
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475[04:19:38] <_rubik> themill: partition drive, backup locally,
restore backup, expand partition?
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477[04:21:46] <_rubik> iirc post install part disk encryption is
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478[04:22:35] <themill> you'd normally only encrypt a
partition in any case, leaving /boot outside; inside that luks
container you have lvm with whatever you want
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479[04:23:07] <themill> and yeah, if you want to move / then
you'd be doing it off a live CD. At some point, it's
easier to reinstall.
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480[04:24:23] <Sveta> foul_owl: avidemux has some licensing
issues, i'm wondering if theres an alternative, eg "vlc
older version 2.0.x +addon " or package subtitleeditor also
plays video with miliseconds (look at "apt search subtitle
editor", I think majority of them would have this feature)
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483[04:25:19] <_rubik> themill: so I gueess luks in-place
conversion is my best bet. Could be worth a try just for experience
sake. Worst case scenario I backup and rebuild.
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484[04:25:28] <_rubik> guess*
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486[04:27:13] <themill> _rubik: depending on how much space
you've got it might be more fuss than it is worth. There's
certainly merit in allowing the installer to get all the steps of
the config correct for you.
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493[04:29:20] <_rubik> themill: Come thanksgiving when I have a
free moment I might as well reinstall, and actually take the time to
setup a decent iptable / fail2ban. Thanks for the advice!
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584[05:44:42] <codebam> how can I install a port?
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585[05:44:46] <codebam> (package)
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588[05:45:00] <codebam> I added the ports repo to my
sources.list but I get this
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589[05:45:12] <codebam> N: Skipping acquire of configured file
'main/binary-amd64/Packages' as repository 'replaced-url
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591[05:45:27] <themill> what are you really trying to do?
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592[05:45:34] <codebam> I want to install libva1
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593[05:45:42] <codebam> because mpv is broken without it
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594[05:45:56] <themill> what release of debian is this?
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596[05:46:10] <codebam> sid
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597[05:46:11] <codebam> unstable
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599[05:46:46] <themill> libva1 is not in unstable and mpv in
unstable does not require it
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600[05:47:19] <codebam> okay fine, but when I try to play music
I get "mpv: error while loading shared libraries: libva.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
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602[05:47:26] <codebam> which means I need libva1
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605[05:48:02] <themill> Can you pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy libva1 mpv apt libc6; apt-cache policy"?
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607[05:48:41] <annadane> libva1 was replaced with libva2
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608[05:49:06] <themill> annadane: libva2 does not contain
libva.so.1
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609[05:49:38] <codebam>
replaced-url
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610[05:50:19] <codebam> themill: ^
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612[05:50:32] <codebam> I have to go but I'll be back in
like 20 mins
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617[05:52:29] <themill> codebam: it might be that mpv is
dlopening things in an odd way and just install libva2 will shut it
up.
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618[05:52:47] <themill> codebam: that said, you have a
sufficiently hideous mess there that I'm not going to touch it
at all.
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627[05:58:35] <annadane> my recommendation: nuke your system and
start over from backups
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666[06:35:10] <vutral> is somewhere a list what changed between
stretch and buster?
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669[06:36:51] <annadane> well, buster is only due to be released
in... a year and a half-ish
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670[06:37:20] <themill> vutral: there are already about 8000
source packages that have changed between the two releases. No,
no-one keeps a list of what has changed.
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671[06:37:37] <annadane> there's a
replaced-url
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672[06:38:40] <vutral> thx
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675[06:41:48] <annadane> basically the universal answer is
"everything will change except for abandoned packages"
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676[06:42:24] <annadane> in what direction nobody can really
tell because it's highly individual to the programs though
it's generic stuff like "bug fixes and more features"
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678[06:42:34] <annadane> and obviously new packages
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681[06:43:56] <themill> there are non-abandoned packages that
don't change
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example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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973[09:40:56] <Bushmaster> hi, anyone here
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974[09:41:01] <Bushmaster> I am seeking some help
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978[09:42:09] <n4dir> !ask
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979[09:42:09] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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986[09:44:24] <Bushmaster> hi thanks n4cht dpkg My Debian OS is
not allowing me to log in, I put correct password for sure but it
pops back to log in screen again, but if I put down wrong password,
it does indicates wrong passowrd
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989[09:45:55] <n4dir> I for one am not good with
display-managers (the stuff which gives you a login screen).
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991[09:46:36] <n4dir> There are log files which might contain
info about such errors (users home ~/.xsession-errors and
/var/log/Xorg0.log)
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992[09:47:10] <n4dir> Try to get a tty, hitting ctrl+alt+F2 (i
am not sure if that still works with systemd, but i think so)
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993[09:47:17] <n4dir> if it works, try to login
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994[09:47:27] <n4dir> as user, if that doesn't work, try to
log in as root
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997[09:47:57] <n4dir> - other option: wait for someone who knows
the problem or who is good with display managers ....:-)
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998[09:48:15] <n4dir> what i said is very general stuff. i doubt
i will be able to help in detail
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999[09:48:48] <Bushmaster> understandable and thanks for sheding
some light in it n4cht
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1000[09:48:54] <n4dir> my guess is that a file has wrong
permissions ...
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1003[09:49:12] <n4dir> yeah, good luck. Just post what you can
achieve.
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1006[09:51:49] <Bushmaster> n4dir: I am going to take your
suggestion and give it a shot shortly and try let you know
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1010[09:53:03] <crcrcr> what's glog?
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1018[09:55:59] <n4dir> apt-cache show glog (or similar)
doesn't tell you?
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1028[09:58:55] <crcrcr> it's glog, the google logging module
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1029[09:59:12] <n4dir> apt-cache show should work anyway
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1035[10:00:02] <n4dir> probably doesn't tell you more than
what you just posted (the README of slackbuilds.org sure
doesn't say more ...)
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1052[10:06:00] <RoyK> Anyone that knows if there's such a
thing as an suphp replacement? I want to have a way for apache (or
nginx?) processes to run as the users' UID, and suexec
hasn't been updated in years.
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1056[10:07:53] <jolt> RoyK: I use php-fpm and run it per user
(different pools)
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1057[10:08:04] <jolt> RoyK: but that doesn't do anything
with nginx though
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1062[10:11:06] <RoyK> jolt: ok - any idea if there's a howto
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1066[10:13:44] <RoyK> jolt: oh - does that mean I'll have to
hardcode this in the config for each user/pool?
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1068[10:14:36] <jelly> RoyK: you can use php-fpm with nginx but
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1069[10:15:16] <RoyK> hm - I wish there was something as easy as
suexec
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1070[10:15:26] <RoyK> or suphp
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1071[10:15:28] <RoyK> that is
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1072[10:15:36] <jelly> suphp is definitely dead
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1074[10:16:13] <FinalX> and if it wasn't, it should've
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1078[10:16:54] <FinalX> we still have a legacy setup, but that
has a fastcgi wrapper (with a custom suexec), but everything else is
going through fpm :)
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1099[10:28:46] <cybrNaut> ,v mutt
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1100[10:28:47] <judd> Package: mutt on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.5.21-6.2+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.5.21-6.2+deb7u3; jessie:
1.5.23-3; stretch: 1.7.2-1; buster: 1.8.3+neomutt20170609-2+b1; sid:
1.8.3+neomutt20170609-2+b1
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1101[10:29:18] <cybrNaut> what does "LTS" mean on this
page?
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1103[10:30:11] <babilen> Long Term Support
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1105[10:30:20] <babilen> dpkg: lts
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1106[10:30:20] <dpkg> Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project
to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5
years. Debian LTS is not handled by the Debian security team, but by
a separate group of volunteers and companies. Ask me about
<wheezy-lts> and see
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1107[10:30:20] <LiuYan> Anyone tried migrating from Fedora to
Debian Unstable? I'm using mate + compiz + emerald in Fedora,
there's an external compiz-reload repository for debian
stretch, but not for unstable.
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1108[10:31:11] <babilen> dpkg: compiz
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1109[10:31:11] <dpkg> Compiz was a compositing window manager
using OpenGL for rendering. Compiz hasn't been developed for
some time and is no longer part of Debian (see bugs #719870 and
#677864). Plenty of other window managers have the same features as
compiz. For a list of available window managers, run
«apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager». See also
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1110[10:31:20] <babilen> LiuYan: ^^^
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1112[10:31:52] <n4dir> i couldn't think of a single
window-manager which has features like compiz. plenty seems a bit
like an overstretch
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1115[10:32:21] <cybrNaut> babilen: thanks
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1116[10:32:29] <babilen> n4dir: I just had the same thought
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1118[10:32:51] <babilen> And compiz seems to have been
ressurected also, so that factoid is a bit outdated
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1119[10:33:10] <n4dir> :-) well: every now and then the bot has a
tiny weird info ...
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1121[10:34:08] <babilen> judd: v compiz
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1123[10:34:09] <judd> Package: compiz on amd64 -- buster:
1:0.9.13.0+16.10.20160818.2-5.1; sid:
1:0.9.13.0+16.10.20160818.2-5.1; stretch:
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1126[10:34:22] <babilen> In fact 0.9 appears to be packages in
buster/sid
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1128[10:34:58] <LiuYan> babilen: yes, i notice compiz in sid, but
no emerald package
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1130[10:35:19] <babilen> Is emerald still actively developed?
Sorry, I haven't looked into this in years
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1134[10:35:53] <n4dir> quite a while ago i had to use emerald.
Someone at forums.debian.net told me how-to, and it wasn't
difficult. The info might be outdated though
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1138[10:36:34] <LiuYan> babilen: emerald seems reloaded in
compiz-reloaded project too
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1142[10:37:27] * LiuYan kind of like compiz + emerald
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1143[10:37:31] <babilen> Looks as if that bit has just not been
packaged .. might be possible to use the Debian packages for compiz
and install emerald manually into a stow managed dir in /usr/local
(cf. /msg dpkg stow usage)
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1144[10:37:54] <n4dir> LiuYan: i would ask in #debian-next but i
would sure ask that project, compiz-reloaded, if it will work with
debian unstable too (well: i would probably simply give it a try ...
but that is not a good advise)
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1145[10:38:19] <n4dir> in addition, not instead of here
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1146[10:38:35] <babilen> Well, 0.9 has been packaged for Debian
and I wouldn't be too surprised if the only problem (heh) with
emerald is that it hasn't been packaged yet
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1161[10:45:33] <Bushmaster> n4dir, hi, i have managed to log in
to debian, following your suggeston, it helped man, thanks a lot
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1166[10:46:40] <n4dir> Oh. Bushmaster. That is cool. I would have
expected more problems (and mainly those i can't help with ...
). Glad it worked
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1167[10:46:47] <LiuYan> n4dir: okay, i'll try #debian-next
chanel, thanks
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1169[10:47:31] <coreGrl> there is a way to conenct to an already
opened graphic session (xorg) from another pc? like vnc for windows
I mean, but with something faster than vnc? (suppose a remove slow
vpn connection)
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1170[10:47:35] <LiuYan> ooops, it's needed to be invited to
#debian-next
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1172[10:47:55] <n4dir> it is a different server, oftc ?
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1173[10:47:57] <n4dir> !next
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1174[10:47:57] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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1176[10:48:03] <n4dir> !debian-next
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1177[10:48:04] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1180[10:49:05] <LiuYan> n4dir: okay, thanks again
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1182[10:50:06] <n4dir> haven't been there for ages, but i
recall the debian-next channel to be rather silent. Still chances
are higher to run into someone who wants to use compiz on sid too
...
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1186[10:52:06] <Bushmaster> n4dir, it worked in a weird way, from
my GRUB menu,I went to Debian and I pressed CTR+ALT+F1 and then it
took me to a command mode, where I keep typing username and passowrd
and it kept rejecting it until I found out that the username I was
putting is not capitalize, i then return to main GUI login screen
and click 'not listed' and it allowed me to manually type
uysername which is bushcat and not Bushcat but thing that confused
me now, i
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1187[10:52:06] <Bushmaster> been using Debian for over 4 years
and log in sreen always pre-selnt username as Bushcat hence i always
simply typed password but this time i do not know what went wrong
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1188[10:52:32] <n4dir> Bushmaster: ah. good
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1190[10:53:14] <Bushmaster> thanks n4dir
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1207[10:59:31] <gunix> or, an even better question: anybody has
XP in configuring nftables?
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1210[11:00:44] <n4dir> gunix: none.
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1214[11:01:56] <towo^work> none default firewall
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1227[11:11:07] <edfox> Hello!
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1232[11:12:04] <edfox> Suddently all the icons on my tray
disappeared (XFCE). I thought it was a bug since it happened after
an upgrade but nothing changed. I tried to delete and readd the tray
plugin from the panel many times and resetting it but i still have
no icons :(
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1233[11:13:01] <edfox> Uh, but apparently hexchat can show an
icon. It's the only software that works apparently
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1256[11:35:10] <efrahim> hi. after a reboot lightdm fails to
start x. disabling display-manager service gave me a console after
boot, from which startx, xinit, and lightdm only gives vblack screen
with text cursor. any suggestions?
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1261[11:40:02] <ezra-s> efrahim: after a reboot.. and what
happend before the reboot?
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1263[11:40:14] <ezra-s> driver change perhaps?
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1268[11:41:12] <ezra-s> everything correctly "apt-get
upgrade"d?
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1270[11:41:25] <efrahim> ezra-s: no driver change. computer
crashed while trying to install remmina using snap.
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1272[11:42:42] <efrahim> ezra-s: apt-get upgrade finished
sucessfully after crash.
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1273[11:43:06] <ezra-s> efrahim: your description seems to say
you are out of window manager, which one do you use?
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1275[11:44:17] <efrahim> ezra-s: Im using the mate desktop, as
installed by debian installer.
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1283[11:47:14] <ezra-s> efrahim: perhaps something from mate was
removed by accident before your last attempt to install remmina,
worth checking if its not running even manually with startx
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1286[11:49:11] <efrahim> ezra-s: running startx gives the same
problem... how do I make sure it runs mate directly and not anything
else?
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1289[11:50:29] <ezra-s> efrahim: exactly, I would check
/var/log/apt/history.log to see if mate packages were changed
recently too
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1294[11:52:53] <efrahim_> ezra-s: grepping for mate from that
file gives nothing
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1299[11:54:27] <ezra-s> efrahim_: I would try to run
/usr/bin/mate-session from .xinitrc and see what happens (for when
you call startx)
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1300[11:54:41] <efrahim_> ezra-s: furthermore, there are no
"(EE)" in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, running dpkg-reconfigure on
lightdm and xorg has no effect either.
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1301[11:54:50] <efrahim_> ezra-s: aight, will try that
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1307[11:57:38] <efrahim> ezra-s: same thing
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1309[11:58:15] <efrahim> black screen w/ cursor
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1310[11:58:35] <efrahim> text-cursor that is
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1311[11:58:44] <ezra-s> efrahim: ohh, no mouse pointer
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1313[11:59:23] <ezra-s> efrahim: perhaps better paste the whole
output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and let's see what happens,
preferably in a sane pastebin with no ads
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1314[11:59:29] <efrahim> ezra-s: no. no mouse-pointer. sorry for
not being clearer.
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1322[12:01:57] <efrahim> ezra-s: ok. I will try... having no
desktop browsing/copy-pasting is problematic...
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1333[12:06:00] <ezra-s> efrahim: hold a sec, Ill show you a
simple way..
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1336[12:06:36] <ezra-s> efrahim: we use this method in #httpd
-> cat pastedata | curl -F type=nocode -F paste='<-'
replaced-url
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1337[12:06:39] <ezra-s> apaste='curl -F
'''paste=<-'\''
replaced-url
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1338[12:06:57] <ezra-s> from terminal ^^^
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1339[12:07:12] <ezra-s> perhaps in this channel there is a
similar way, but I'm not familiar yet
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1343[12:09:07] <NoCode> ezra-s, Ding!
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1344[12:09:10] <NoCode> :D
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1347[12:10:05] <turnip> I am using luxrender for blender.There
are two versions,openCL and noopenCL.What's the difference
between them?
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1353[12:12:19] <efrahim_> ezra-s: that gives me a html snippet
with "301 moved permanently"
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1355[12:13:41] <ezra-s> NoCode: o/
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1356[12:13:52] <NoCode> \o
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1358[12:14:21] <ezra-s> efrahim_: wops , there must be a similar
method using curl to post to afamouse pastebin site, don't know
about another of the top of my head
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1363[12:15:58] <efrahim_> ezra-s: I have mailed the file to
someone, asking them to paste it at give me link...
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1373[12:19:39] <efrahim_> ezra-s: apaste.info/6hMT (perhaps...
lynx and links refuse to show me tha page...)
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1375[12:20:32] <ezra-s> seems "pastebinit" has the tool
to do the job too
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1376[12:20:44] <efrahim_> efrahim_: oh, now I got it. yes, that
is the correct paste.
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1377[12:20:50] <efrahim_> cool
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1379[12:22:03] <ezra-s> efrahim_: which graphics card do you
have?
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1383[12:23:06] <efrahim_> ezra-s: lspci: VGA ... : Intel ... you
want more info?
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1386[12:23:41] <ezra-s> efrahim_: no, that's enough for now,
I don't know why the heck it is defaulting to use vesa driver
instead of the intel one
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1388[12:24:30] <ezra-s> efrahim_: with root terminal run this:
Xorg -configure
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1389[12:24:45] <efrahim_> yeah, I saw the vesa warnings too.
lspci with a bunch of -vvv gives "Kernel module in use
i915"
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1390[12:24:51] <ezra-s> it will create a xorg.conf file, see if
it specifies intel
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1391[12:25:21] <ezra-s> "Driver "intel""
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1392[12:25:57] <efrahim_> ezra-s: yepp, says "intel"
under device -> card0 driver.
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1393[12:26:13] <efrahim_> so yeah, a line "Driver
"intel""
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1394[12:26:33] <ezra-s> efrahim_: fantastic, if you have
"/etc/X11/xorg.conf" make a backup, if not copy the file
generated into that exact path
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1396[12:27:25] <efrahim_> ezra-s: done
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1397[12:27:35] <efrahim_> ezra-s: I presume I try startx again
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1398[12:27:42] <ezra-s> although your xorg output doesn't
imply an error, let's see if the black window with cursos has
anything to do with it
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1399[12:27:55] <ezra-s> efrahim_: when you try startx make sure
lightdm or such services are stopped
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1400[12:28:42] <ezra-s> iirc you can always try "Xorg
:1" or similar manually but still..
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1404[12:29:43] <efrahim_> ezra-s: that is another funny thing...
to get the computer to boot to console I "systemctl disable
display-manager" but then "systemctl start
display-manager" gives no such service messages... so I suppose
my DM is gone.
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1405[12:29:54] * ezra-s doesn't know why default Xorg conf
(without conf file) defaults to vesa instead of trying to use the
intel driver right away
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1407[12:30:33] <devel_> Hello, any one managed to push opensource
mta to 1m+ mails per hour?
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1411[12:32:12] <ezra-s> devel_: 277 per second, you need good
hardware not just opensource mta
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1412[12:32:44] <devel_> atm 60k per h using only 3 % of 4 cores
and around 50mb ram lol
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1414[12:33:15] <devel_> cant go any further, i am stuck, and from
the info on the net, postfix would perform even worse
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1415[12:33:59] <ezra-s> devel_: seems like a very specific query
for a distro channel, perhaps inquery in the channel of the mta you
use, or in the postfix channel.
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1416[12:34:12] <ezra-s> inquiry
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1419[12:34:20] <devel_> Yeh, no people there
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1420[12:34:33] <efrahim_> ezra-s: same thing as before.
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1421[12:34:37] <ezra-s> devel_: #postfix is filled up
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1422[12:35:05] <devel_> Right, but you need to registrate on
postfix :D
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1433[12:39:07] <efrahim_> ezra-s: the log now ends with a
"(EE) Server terminated with error (2)", but I did not get
a working console back... (whenever I try to start x, trough
lightdm, startx, xinit, the coputer is unresponseive to input and I
have to shut it off manually)
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1434[12:39:42] <efrahim_> ezra-s: but the computer is still
functioning (eg. can ssh to it)
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1436[12:40:21] <ezra-s> efrahim_: perhaps with the previous
messages before that one we might get a clue
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1443[12:42:23] <CrazyTux> hello, what can we add to Debian 9 to
make it easy for a linux newbie and a windows user?
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1444[12:42:46] <devel_> install kde
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1445[12:42:58] <CrazyTux> ok
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1446[12:43:12] <mr__tea> use gnome!
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1448[12:43:29] <CrazyTux> anything else that will make it easier
and intuitive for a linux beginner?
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1450[12:43:37] <babilen> CrazyTux: A cup of tea and some time
explaining specific Linux knowledge to the new user. Hand over a
printed copy of the Administration Guide also
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1453[12:44:19] <CrazyTux> ok. For someone who completely relies
on GUI for most of his work?
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1457[12:45:39] <babilen> Install a browser and a (graphical) tool
for package management (and ensure that security upgrades are
installed)
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1460[12:46:15] <CrazyTux> babilen, please suggest a graphical
tool for package management.
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1461[12:46:23] <jrabe> packagekit
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1462[12:46:29] <efrahim_> ezra-s: the two lines above are about
/root/xorg.conf.new being my new xorg.conf file and how to try it
out. Before that, about detecting a mouse at /dev/input/mice, then
three lines for loading intel and two lines saying it is disabling
keyboard0 and mouse0
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1463[12:46:32] <babilen> I don't use any, but that
shouldn't be too hard to figure out
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1464[12:46:33] <jrabe> It's also good for them to have a
rough idea of how the terminal works, in case they need to look up a
command.
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1465[12:46:46] <CrazyTux> ok
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1466[12:46:47] <jrabe> They don't need to know how to use
it, just that it exists and how to open it.
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1467[12:47:07] <jrabe> (and that it's a powerful but
dangerous tool for inexperienced users)
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1470[12:47:19] <efrahim_> ezra-s: paste.debian.net/995434
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1471[12:47:23] <CrazyTux> can I make Debian 9 as intuitive as
Mint or Ubuntu?
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1472[12:47:53] <gpunk> CrazyTux I guess yes, it depends on the DE
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1473[12:48:11] <CrazyTux> gpunk, which DE would you suggest?
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1475[12:48:35] <gpunk> I am perso on Gnome
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1476[12:48:36] <babilen> CrazyTux: What is so unintuitive about
Debian as opposed to, say, Ubuntu?
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1477[12:48:41] <Unit193> I think 'synaptic' for a GUI
package manager, 'gnome-software' for a software center.
The latter only picks up stuff that have appstream data though, so
it's much less powerful (and useful, IMO.)
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1479[12:49:23] <gpunk> gnome-software exists and is installed by
default on debian
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1480[12:49:30] <gpunk> synaptic too of course
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1481[12:50:34] <ezra-s> efrahim_: but try to copy it in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf like I mentioned earlier, not sure what error is
refered in the last line
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1482[12:50:57] <CrazyTux> how is Cinnamon?
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1483[12:51:11] <efrahim_> ezra-s: I did... where the
xorg.conf.new message comes from I do not know.
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1484[12:51:15] <gpunk> spicy
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1485[12:51:16] <Unit193> gpunk: What precisely do you mean
'by default' in this context?
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1486[12:51:42] <efrahim_> ezra-s: Thansk for the help, but I have
to leave now. I be back in this channel looking for help later.
thanks again
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1487[12:51:50] <gpunk> Unit193 it is available out of the box,
when you install task-gnome
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1488[12:51:51] <ezra-s> efrahim_: but your paste says
"/root/xorg.conf.new" :(
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1489[12:51:58] <ezra-s> efrahim_: ok!
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1504[12:59:06] <pragomer> hi. is it safe to convert my
luks/dmcrypt encrypted ext4 root partition to btrfs for beeing able
to work with snapshots?
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1513[13:02:24] <matrix_architect> pragomer, sounds like a
headache
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1519[13:04:46] <pragomer> i know *LOL*
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1521[13:05:20] <pragomer> it just tried out suse tumbleweed
functionality with btrfs and snapshots of root-partition
(encrypted!) and it worked
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1522[13:05:33] <pragomer> so I thought about converting my ext4
to btrfs
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1523[13:05:46] <pragomer> sounds like a nightmare *lol*
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1538[13:12:13] <unchained> hey I am new on debian, and I
downloaded a .dsc file it is supposed to be needed to install a
sofware, but I don't know how to handle it, any help ?
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1539[13:12:20] <CrazyTux> which is the most intuitive and
beginner friendly DE that I can install on Debian? for those
switching from Windows?
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1540[13:12:29] <CrazyTux> it has to be stable, though.
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1541[13:12:44] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: XFCE can be made to look
pretty similar to windows
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1544[13:13:23] <CrazyTux> SirLagz, could you please provide a
link to the site where that is explained?
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1545[13:13:44] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: where what can be explained?
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1546[13:13:46] <ezra-s> CrazyTux: MATE is intuitive for former
windows users too
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1547[13:14:20] <babilen> unchained: A .dsc is needed if you want
to build a package, rather than install an already build one (for
which you'd use a .deb)
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1548[13:14:28] <CrazyTux> SirLagz, how xfce can be made easier to
windows users.
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1549[13:14:38] <ikonia> CrazyTux: you ask this question every
week
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1551[13:14:46] <matrix_architect> CrazyTux, kde on debian
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1553[13:14:54] <rawruw> what does "toast up with the
gang" mean? :P
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1554[13:14:55] <ikonia> CrazyTux: you brag telling people how you
are supporting beginner users onto linux, and then swap distros and
desktops every 5 minutes,
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1555[13:14:58] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: just set it up to look like it
when you install it?
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1556[13:15:03] <CrazyTux> ikonia, no. I am installing Debian for
a windows user.
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1557[13:15:12] <ikonia> CrazyTux: right, so thats exactly what I
just said
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1558[13:15:16] <unchained> allright I will find a .deb file for
the install thx babilen
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1561[13:15:48] <babilen> Why is "Looking like Windows"
seen as a good thing? They are different systems that behave
differently, and if you imply similarity people will draw
conclusions that don't necessarily hold true. My mum is happily
using Linux with Gnome and finds it a lot easier to navigate than
the "horribly overladen Windows" she had to use back in
the day
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1563[13:15:56] <babilen> unchained: What are you after?
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1565[13:16:12] <CrazyTux> ikonia, after exploring several distros
I have decided to stick to a few distros. Those that are mainstream.
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1566[13:16:34] <CrazyTux> and I don't intend to try any new
distro now.
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1567[13:16:45] <ikonia> CrazyTux: yes, you said that too, about
50 times, here you are now, asking what desktop you should install
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1568[13:16:59] <CrazyTux> I am using Debian now and won't
switch to other distro.
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1570[13:17:32] <ikonia> CrazyTux: I don't care (personally)
what you use, and you've said this before, but again,
you've been uysing linux for over a year now, and you brag that
you personally support "noobs" so why are you asking what
desktop to install
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1572[13:17:46] <CrazyTux> ikonia, yes. I asked about the various
ways in which Debian 9 could be made easier to a linux beginner.
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1573[13:18:07] <ikonia> CrazyTux: right, you're a beginner,
so what don't you work out what you need
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1575[13:18:18] <CrazyTux> ikonia, because I have used xfce
mostly.
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1576[13:18:27] <CrazyTux> haven't tried others much.
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1579[13:19:05] <ikonia> you've been asking about kde, gnome,
unity, cinnamon for months now, so whatever,
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1581[13:19:56] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: well if you've used XFCE,
just install XFCE. when they ask you for help, you'll know how
to help them
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1582[13:20:08] <ikonia> wisdom
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1583[13:20:38] <CrazyTux> SirLagz, ok. How can I make the top
panel in xfce appear at the bottom?
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1585[13:20:54] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: have you even tried?
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1586[13:21:04] <CrazyTux> SirLagz, no.
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1587[13:21:11] <unchained> babilen I founded my software on .deb
:)
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1588[13:21:18] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: why don't you try and
work it out first and if you need help, come back and ask
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1589[13:21:24] <CrazyTux> I have been using the default settings
only.
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1590[13:21:29] <CrazyTux> ok
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1591[13:21:34] <babilen> unchained: great
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1592[13:21:35] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: you'll learn much better
if you work things out yourself
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1594[13:21:54] <unchained> it's now installed and works ! :D
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1595[13:23:12] <CrazyTux> is there any tool like Opensuse Yast or
Mageia's Control Centre that we can install on Debian 9?
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1596[13:23:36] <CrazyTux> or is something like that available on
other DEs?
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1598[13:24:13] <SirLagz> CrazyTux: synaptic
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1599[13:24:37] <CrazyTux> SirLagz, ok. I know Synaptic. I have
that installed now.
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1601[13:25:07] <unchained> if it's not on synaptic you can
add repositories on sources.list I think, is it correct ?
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1602[13:25:10] <matrix_architect> kde has its own software center
on debian
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1604[13:25:32] <Unit193> moun, or something like that I believe.
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1605[13:25:36] <CrazyTux> does KDE have it?
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1607[13:25:58] <CrazyTux> then, I will try KDE.
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1609[13:26:31] <SirLagz> ikonia: I see.
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1611[13:26:40] <CrazyTux> thanks a lot.
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1619[13:30:45] <giirt> Hello, what is the preferred method of
making a debian dist. Should I mount the .deb iso and make my
changes?
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1620[13:31:17] <SirLagz> giirt: what are you trying to do?
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1629[13:33:01] <giirt> Just for fun. I want to make a basic
debian dist where I: I want to install tor-daemon, insert firewall
rules that block network access to all applications except
tor-daemon and make the debian boot from CD.
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1631[13:33:11] <giirt> SirLagz: Kinda like tails
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1637[13:34:25] <SirLagz> giirt: ah k
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1638[13:34:25] <giirt> SirLagz: I intend to make a minimalistic
tails. I plan on making a script that mounts the .iso, makes the
required changes and saves the iso. Is this a common method?
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1640[13:34:48] <SirLagz> giirt: you can't change an ISO file
because ISO files are readonly. You'd need to build a new iso
after modifying the files
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1642[13:35:13] <SirLagz> giirt: well. I should say I'm not
aware on any methods to change an ISO file
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1643[13:35:30] <SirLagz> giirt: the times I've done
something similar, I built a new ISO from existing ISO files
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1645[13:35:57] <giirt> SirLagz: Okey, thx for the info!
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1653[13:37:46] <SirLagz> giirt: nop
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1654[13:37:49] <SirLagz> no probs
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1655[13:38:29] <Unit193> SirLagz: You can, it's just not
exactly like that. Have to mount, unsquashfs, chroot/make changes,
squashfs it, then create the iso using xorriso or something.
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1657[13:39:01] <SirLagz> Unit193: exactly what I said, need to
recreate the iso, can't modify an ISO file.
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1661[13:39:57] <Unit193> Ah, way past sleep time, sorry for
misreading.
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1663[13:40:04] <SirLagz> Unit193: no problems
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1664[13:40:14] <giirt> Unit193: Thanks for details (y). This will
be fun to try!
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1666[13:40:36] <Unit193> I was thinking from scratch, using
live-build (or live-wrapper, once it's more complete.)
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1670[13:42:00] <giirt> Unit193: So, live-build can be used to
make the operating system bootable directly from CD?
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1671[13:42:18] <Unit193> giirt: live-build is how you create it
from scratch, yes.
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1673[13:43:52] <giirt> Unit193: Aha, great! BTW, is the
unsquashfs and squashfs method the "common" approach to
making dists? Does Ubuntu for example work this way when building
ISOs?
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1674[13:43:56] <nodiscc> giirt: i have an example live-build
config if you want
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1675[13:44:28] <giirt> nodiscc: I'd very much like to see
your config example!
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1676[13:44:40] <nodiscc> i think ubuntu uses debian-cd, i might
be wrong
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1679[13:45:27] <nodiscc> giirt:
replaced-url
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1680[13:45:27] <linurandy> hello to everyone, i've problems
with my wifi and bluetooth. I see networks but i can't create
hotspot. I've debian 9 and I uses Network-Manager with Gnome
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1682[13:45:42] <Unit193> Ubuntu uses 'livecd-rootfs',
'debian-cd', and 'ubuntu-cdimage'.
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1683[13:46:30] <[0x9090]> hello ! , I need to upgrade me server
from debian 7.11 to debian 9 ,, when I change the sources list and
update it give me error
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1684[13:46:57] <nodiscc> [0x9090]: please pastebin your
sources.list
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1686[13:47:09] <nodiscc> and the actual error message
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1687[13:47:31] <linurandy> hello to everyone, i've problems
with my wifi and bluetooth. I see networks but i can't create
hotspot. I've debian 9 and I uses Network-Manager with Gnome
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1689[13:47:48] <themill> [0x9090]: and you need to upgrade to
Debian 8 first.
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1694[13:50:02] <[0x9090]> my sources list is the same with
debian9
replaced-url
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1696[13:50:57] <themill> [0x9090]: people what to see what you
actually have not some wiki page. (and you still need to upgrade to
Debian 8 first)
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1697[13:50:58] <linurandy> [0x9090]: you need to upgrade to
debian 8 first, for not create conflict
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1700[13:52:29] <flipper8827> been yup sense 3am pst
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1702[13:53:40] <[0x9090]> <themill> <linurandy>
thanks alot ,,, I will do it , is my configuration safe while
upgrade ?
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1704[13:53:58] <themill> [0x9090]: you should read the release
notes
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1706[13:54:18] <nodiscc> [0x9090]: i would do a backup before
upgrading, just in case. something you can revert to if things go
wrong
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1708[13:54:40] <[0x9090]> ok , great thanks alot
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1712[13:55:57] <rawruw> Required: parse the other modules too on
failure. Requisite: return directly on fail. Sufficient: return on
success. But what about running the other modules too on success
without returning?
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1737[14:08:40] <linurandy> [0x9090]: in my experience debian is
very stable with that type of process
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1743[14:09:08] <linurandy> hello to everyone, i've problems
with my wifi and bluetooth. I see networks but i can't create
hotspot. I've debian 9 and I uses Network-Manager with Gnome
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1744[14:09:42] <themill> you don't create a hotspot with n-m
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1745[14:10:54] <themill> ,i hostapd
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1746[14:10:55] <judd> Package hostapd (net, optional) in
stretch/amd64: IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP
Authenticator. Version: 2:2.4-1; Size: 547.1k; Installed: 1393k;
Homepage:
replaced-url
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1751[14:12:59] <linurandy> themill, judd: but i think is for the
driver i use Network controller: Broadco
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1752[14:13:00] <OtakuSenpai> hello
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1754[14:13:24] <OtakuSenpai> how do i add fontconfig's path
to bashrc?
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1762[14:18:45] <OtakuSenpai> i mean is it a executable?
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1764[14:18:53] <OtakuSenpai> idk what it is
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1767[14:19:02] <OtakuSenpai> can anyone tell me?
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1768[14:19:14] <OtakuSenpai> i hav it installed
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1769[14:19:28] <themill> !wayttd
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1770[14:19:28] <dpkg> What Are You Trying To Do?
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1771[14:19:50] <OtakuSenpai> im trying to compile a game
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1772[14:19:58] <OtakuSenpai> and it requires fontconfig
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1774[14:20:03] <OtakuSenpai> which autotools cant find
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1775[14:20:09] <OtakuSenpai> even if its installed
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1776[14:20:13] <OtakuSenpai> it sux
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1777[14:20:15] <themill> if what is installed?
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1778[14:20:25] <OtakuSenpai> fontconfig
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1779[14:20:28] <themill> (real commands and real output in a
pastebin?)
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1780[14:20:34] <OtakuSenpai> wait
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1781[14:20:49] <OtakuSenpai>
replaced-url
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1782[14:20:56] <OtakuSenpai> thts the configure script
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1784[14:21:05] <OtakuSenpai> you will find the error there
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1785[14:21:08] <themill> and you need -dev packages to compile
things, just like last time. and the time before
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1786[14:21:09] <tw> Do you have the development package for
fontconfig installed?
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1787[14:21:18] <OtakuSenpai> idk
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1788[14:21:35] <OtakuSenpai> no
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1789[14:21:44] <OtakuSenpai> ok im gonna install then\m too
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1791[14:24:13] <tw> have you considered using apt-get build-dep
on the packaged version of whatever you're trying to install to
get the known dependencies?
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1794[14:24:42] <OtakuSenpai> tw its a build from source
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1796[14:25:00] <tw> I know, but you didn't write it, so odds
are good it is already packaged for debian.
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1797[14:25:01] <OtakuSenpai> the game itself has its source code
on github so
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1798[14:25:09] <OtakuSenpai> no it isnt
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1799[14:25:13] <OtakuSenpai> ,v naev
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1800[14:25:14] <judd> No package named 'naev' was found
in amd64.
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1801[14:25:27] <tw> Ah, well, no luck there then.
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1805[14:25:52] <OtakuSenpai> thnx guys
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1868[14:52:40] <altab> hello, I accidentally deleted my
/etc/crontab file so when I edit crontab (crontab-e), the file
isn't saved; is there a way to regenerate an /etc/crontab file?
(touch /etc/crontab doesn't work : the crontab -e content
isn't saved in the file)
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1875[14:54:54] <lucioam> does anyone know about Raspberry?
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1885[14:58:32] <jelly> lucioam: are you talking about raspberry
pi series of hardware platforms?
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1889[15:00:34] <jrabe> altab, check the file's permissions,
should be "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root" I believe
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1890[15:00:56] <linuxthefish> hi, is there any way to search apt
for packages that contain a file?
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1891[15:00:57] <jrabe> i.e. 644 and root-owned
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1892[15:00:59] <linuxthefish> i'm looking for
libcrypto.so.0.9.8
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1894[15:01:25] <jelly> dselect: confmiss
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1895[15:01:25] <dselect> You have to especially tell the
packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are
gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted.
"aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss'
reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for
details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file
management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
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1897[15:01:30] <jelly> altab: ^^
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1899[15:02:01] <jelly> altab: /etc/crontab comes with package
named: cron
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1901[15:02:29] <jrabe> linuxthefish, openssl?
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1903[15:02:41] <jelly> linuxthefish: that one has not existed
since debian 6, squeeze, so you need squeeze sources (and the
package name was libssl0.9.8)
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1905[15:03:16] <jelly> dselect: squeeze sources.list
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1906[15:03:16] <dselect> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb
replaced-url
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1911[15:05:01] <linuxthefish> jelly is there any way to search
for the package?
replaced-url
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1912[15:05:17] <jelly> linuxthefish: add squeeze sources and use
apt-file
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1913[15:05:49] <linuxthefish> won't that mess stuff up? i
thought mixing sources from different versions was not allowed
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1914[15:07:42] <jelly> adding sources for NEWER releases is vrey
problematic. Older, less so
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1915[15:08:15] <lucioam> jelly: yes
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1916[15:08:31] <jelly> linuxthefish: even then, adding sources
does not do damage. Installing stuff does
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1917[15:08:37] <CuteMeOwnThroat> dpkg, tell linuxthefish about
apt-file
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1918[15:08:48] <jelly> CuteMeOwnThroat: she's dead, Jim
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1920[15:08:52] <CuteMeOwnThroat> dpkg, test
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1921[15:08:53] <dpkg> Test failed.
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1922[15:09:07] <jelly> dselect, tell CuteMeOwnThroat about msg
the bot
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1923[15:09:13] <CuteMeOwnThroat> jelly, đ
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1924[15:09:24] <CuteMeOwnThroat> revival successful
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1925[15:09:45] <CuteMeOwnThroat> wtf was that for
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1928[15:11:33] <linuxthefish> hmm apt-file gives me
libcryptopp.so.6 but no libcrypto.so.0.9.8
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1930[15:13:07] <linuxthefish> ah nvm i manually copied
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1931[15:13:39] <likcoras> YOu can also search for files with judd
in here, btw.
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1932[15:13:46] <likcoras> ,file libcryptopp.so.6
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1933[15:13:50] <judd> Search for libcryptopp.so.6 in
stretch/amd64: libcrypto++6:
usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcryptopp.so.6
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1934[15:14:51] <linuxthefish> ,file libssl.so.0.9.8
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1935[15:14:55] <judd> No packages in stretch/amd64 were found
with that file.
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1936[15:14:59] <linuxthefish> ,file libssl.so.0.9
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1937[15:15:03] <judd> No packages in stretch/amd64 were found
with that file.
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1938[15:15:06] <linuxthefish> ,file libssl.so.0
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1939[15:15:10] <judd> No packages in stretch/amd64 were found
with that file.
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1940[15:15:13] <linuxthefish> ,file libssl.so
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1941[15:15:16] <judd> Search for libssl.so in stretch/amd64:
libssl-dev: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so; libssl1.0-dev:
usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so
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1945[15:15:34] <likcoras> linuxthefish: it works if you PM judd
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1948[15:17:00] <linuxthefish> hmm it keeps wanting to use debian
sid repo, should i remove temporarily?
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1958[15:20:04] <jelly> linuxthefish: judd does not care about
squeeze any more, it doesn't know about any archived release
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1959[15:20:36] <linuxthefish> ah it's ok i solved now!
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1960[15:20:42] <linuxthefish> thanks guys
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1961[15:20:46] <linurandy> i'm really can't understead
why i can't create hotspot with Network controller: Broadcom
Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
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replaced-url
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1970[15:26:55] <giirt> Have anyone experience with including
gpg-keys to live-boot?
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2036[16:04:28] <Wulf> giirt: include how and why?
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2041[16:04:50] <Wulf> ah, for apt repos
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2073[16:17:57] <dcpc007> Hi all
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2077[16:19:11] <dcpc007> to get the total size of file modified
<30days in a big repo, do you see better (more efficient) than a
"find -mtime | ls -l or du -k | awk with SUM on size
field" ? (millions entries)
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2079[16:19:41] <b-04> hi to all :)
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2080[16:19:43] <b-04> I just created a cron that runs every 30
minutes, is there a way to force the execution to run now?
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2083[16:20:21] <b-04> I mean, let's run from the crontab
list
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2085[16:20:36] <b-04> force to run crontab list
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2090[16:23:43] <jelly> b-04: no. You can add a copy of the same
job and change time so that it runs next minute+1
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2091[16:24:39] <jelly> (why not next minute? Because next minute
cron daemon only notices a crontab file was changed, and runs any
new job only a minute after that if it's scheduled then)
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2098[16:28:21] <cymen> Since it is apparently rather common these
days to ask people to add a repository to add I was wondering if
there is any sort of access control that I can impose.
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2100[16:28:43] <cymen> Is it possible for example to restrict the
google chrome repository from replacing my gcc. :)
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2101[16:28:58] <jelly> sadly no
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2104[16:29:53] <jelly> might be able to do something with
pinning, but that'd be a kldge
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2115[16:35:32] <jelly> cymen: even if you could, installation
scripts for all packages run as root
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2116[16:35:58] <jelly> but it might still be a nice feature
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2126[16:39:08] <aetheryxes9514> hello, I'm trying to install
a font on my raspbian system (so I hope I'm in the right
place)?
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2128[16:39:37] <aetheryxes9514> I followed the guide listed here
(replaced-url
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2131[16:39:46] <aetheryxes9514> and it is not recognized by any
other programs
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2140[16:41:41] <cymen> jelly: good point, so it makes no sense
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2143[16:42:30] <jelly> it does, but not really for security
purposes, more to avoid accidental damage
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2145[16:44:01] <jelly> !raspbian
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2146[16:44:02] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
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2147[16:44:10] <jelly> dselect: raspbian
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2148[16:44:10] <dselect> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
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2150[16:44:22] <aetheryxes9514> Thank you!
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2151[16:45:17] <b-04> jelly: thanks man :)
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2210[17:06:39] <nobody> hi :)
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2251[17:24:44] <jim> jelly, huh? wha??? someone's dead,
jim?!!
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2252[17:27:09] <jelly> heh
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2300[17:56:08] <cymen> sudo apt install afl afl-clang afl-cov
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2301[17:56:12] <cymen> y
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2302[17:56:50] <CuteMeOwnThroat> this is not a shell
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2305[17:58:29] <cymen> til
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2306[17:58:39] <cymen> if you enable group all in terminator it
will group even different windows :o
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2318[18:02:27] <vutral> someone noticed systemd needing like 11GB
of ram?
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2322[18:03:35] <jelly> vutral: on its own? that'd be a bug
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2323[18:04:06] <vutral> yes on its own
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2325[18:04:15] <jelly> no, haven't noticed anything similar
on debian 8 or 9
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2326[18:04:37] <n4dir> nor have i ever heard of it
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2330[18:06:24] <jhutchins> Mine's using 0.1% of 4G, so
around 4K.
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2333[18:06:50] <jhutchins> 40K? Decimal ponts don't want to
line up this morning.
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2335[18:07:18] <vutral> i just read it often happens when systemd
fails to start something ^^
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2336[18:07:27] <vutral> it just keeps growing
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2338[18:07:34] <vutral> its a serious bug
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2339[18:08:02] <tharkun> Good $DAY is there an aditional way to
copy an iso image into a usb drive?
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2340[18:08:25] <vutral> dd if=iso.img of=/dev/usbdrive
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2342[18:10:03] <jelly> vutral: which debian release is this?
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2348[18:10:37] <jelly> tharkun: in addition to cp blah.iso
/dev/sdx; sync, or what?
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2352[18:11:38] <jelly> vutral: pastebin the output of "top
-o %MEM |head -n 17; dpkg -l dpkg libc6 systemd\*|grep
'^.i'"
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2355[18:12:23] <jhutchins> tharkun: You can use pretty much any
copy program if you copy directly to the unmounted device.
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2356[18:12:37] <vutral> jelly, i have rebooted now
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2357[18:12:41] <jhutchins> tharkun: There are also linux versions
of programs like unetbootin if you want handholding.
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2361[18:13:55] <jelly> caveat
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2362[18:13:57] <jelly> !unetbootin
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2363[18:13:57] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer)
allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux
distributions.
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2364[18:14:02] <jelly> dselect: unetbootin
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2365[18:14:02] <dselect> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer)
allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux
distributions.
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2378[18:18:55] <Hela> hola vatos
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2389[18:23:14] <jelly> vutral: good for you. Still, which debian
release is this and which version of systemd and systemd-sysv
package?
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2392[18:24:48] <vutral> debian stretch
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2393[18:24:54] <vutral> how do i get the version of systemd ?
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2395[18:25:28] <Scrutinizer> systemctl --version
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2396[18:25:59] <vutral> systemd 235-2 systemd-sysv 235-2
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2397[18:26:11] <greycat> or, dpkg -l systemd systemd-sysv | grep
^ii
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2398[18:26:35] <greycat> or grep ^.i just in case you have one of
them on hold
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2402[18:27:10] <greycat> vutral: any chance your 235-2 is
truncated by screen width?
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2403[18:27:11] <jelly> 235-2 looks cut off or unlikely old
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2404[18:27:19] <jelly> ,v systemd
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2405[18:27:20] <judd> Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy:
44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports:
204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u7; jessie-backports:
230-7~bpo8+2; stretch: 232-25+deb9u1; stretch-backports:
234-3~bpo9+1; buster: 235-2; sid: 235-2
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2407[18:27:54] <jelly> vutral: or you're not running
stretch, in which case all bets are off
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2408[18:28:28] <jelly> found a bug in testing/unstable? Great!
Report it so it gets fixed
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2410[18:28:58] <tharkun> jelly: precisely, I've allways used
dd but I recalled a comment that used cp. Thanks
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2412[18:29:06] <tharkun> jhutchins: Thanks
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2413[18:29:15] <vutral> hm
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2414[18:29:21] <jelly> tharkun: install guide says cp
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2415[18:29:36] <vutral> is it possible dist-upgrade is
incomplete?
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2416[18:30:03] <greycat> vutral: you've gone *past* stretch.
you're running unstable or testing.
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2418[18:30:21] <Scrutinizer> Stretch has 232
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2420[18:30:48] <vutral> oops
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2421[18:30:51] <vutral> i ran dpkg in a chroot
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2422[18:30:52] <vutral> ^^
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2423[18:30:54] <jelly> vutral: you have a package version from
testing or unstable. Having it installed means you're not
running stretch any more
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2428[18:31:57] <tharkun> jelly: New install guide ;P old one
recommended dd </discussion>
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2430[18:32:19] <jelly> tharkun: if jessie is new, then yes
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2431[18:32:27] <jelly> (hint: jessie is old)
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2432[18:32:32] <greycat> dd and cp both copy bytes from one place
to another.
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2435[18:33:46] <jelly> greycat: they may copy bytes in the end,
but they make write() of various sizes and dd defaults can make for
a very slow very write-amplified attack on a cheap usb stick
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2437[18:34:11] <jelly> which is probably why i-g does not
recommend it any more
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2442[18:38:16] <grandfso> Dear all, is there a simple way to run
a Debian Live USB from a Fully encrypted partition on the USB? So
that before the bootloader asks which system to boot, I would like
to be asked for a password to unlock the partition.
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2444[18:38:29] <grandfso> I tried several guides so far, but no
joy.
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2446[18:39:03] <buu> Can I set the bridge_port on a bridge to
another bridge?
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2448[18:39:27] <grandfso> I found one guide that is like 30 steps
long but it was published like 7 years ago, so not sure if it is
still relevant
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2453[18:40:17] <n4dir> what is the point to encrypt if it is a
live ?
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2455[18:41:25] <grandfso> n4dir: my bad i Mean encrypted
persistent live USB
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2458[18:42:40] <grandfso> The idea is I would like to have a
carry a system with some tools on me, which I can run anywhere. I
might loose the usb stick, and this is not acceptable :)
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2460[18:42:47] <n4dir> ah, got you
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2461[18:43:25] <n4dir> another wild thought, if in doubt ignore:
just install to the usb-stick instead of using the liveCD?
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2465[18:46:20] <grandfso> n4dir: this could work, if I am able to
encrypt the entire drive after/before the installation and then
unlock it pre-boot. Not sure how to tacle this one though.
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2467[18:46:54] <n4dir> i assume that it works just the way like
an encrypted installation to hard-disk does.
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2473[18:47:35] <n4dir> you boot, get grub screen, choose it, get
asked for the decrypt passwords, etc ...
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2478[18:48:41] <grandfso> If this is really this simple... Then
please kill me. I was googling specifically for live persistent
encrypted usb
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2479[18:48:55] <grandfso> n4dir: will try this in the evening
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2481[18:49:17] <n4dir> don't take my word for it. I for one
am confident enough to give it a try.
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2483[18:49:47] <vutral> ii systemd 232-25+deb9u1 amd64 system and
service manager
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2484[18:49:47] <vutral> ii systemd-sysv 232-25+deb9u1 amd64
system and service manager - SysV links
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2485[18:49:56] <n4dir> the one problem i sure see: you must be
able to make the according devises boot from stick
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2486[18:50:21] <grandfso> which devices do you refer to ?
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2487[18:50:42] <n4dir> wherever you want to use it. A PC, a
laptop,etc. Where you stuck the usb-stick in
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2491[18:51:50] <jelly> vutral: right, consider filing a bug
report anyway so you get the right info next time it happens
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2498[18:52:50] <grandfso> n4dir: ah, sure you're right
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2499[18:53:28] <grandfso> I have the feeling that most consumer
machines have auto-select boot nowadays.. But your right
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2500[18:53:43] <n4dir> i was a bit unclear. My point was: i think
or hope it is rather easy.
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2502[18:54:35] <n4dir> when installing to usb-sticks and use them
outside i think i also had the problem that it was not (for example)
/dev/sdb on the remote. But it's been ages. Perhaps UUID might
help, but i am talking over my head here.
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2508[18:56:33] <grandfso> n4dir: I am going AFK now, but will
report in case of success / failure
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2538[19:09:33] <Epx998> Does d-i preeseed/late_command work in
the squeeze/wheezy releases?
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I can only assume it works in wheezy.
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2557[19:26:03] <AlexZion> Hi everyone, I have a virtal server
with debian 8, I would need to install php5-ffmpeg on it but it
doesn't found any package, I already installed ffmpeg itself
but how to install the php module ?
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2562[19:27:37] <bitlan_> hello, how i can add esfq module for
debian 9 with 4.9.0-4-amd64 kernel ?
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2564[19:27:42] <jhutchins> AlexZion: Which release are you on?
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2566[19:27:50] <jhutchins> ,v php
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2567[19:27:52] <bitlan_> i never add any modules to kernel,
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2568[19:27:52] <judd> Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49;
buster: 1:7.0+54; sid: 1:7.0+56
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2569[19:28:02] <jhutchins> ,v php5
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2570[19:28:03] <judd> Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u11; jessie:
5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1
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2572[19:28:10] <jhutchins> ,v php5-ffmpeg
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2573[19:28:12] <judd> Package: php5-ffmpeg on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.6.0-2.2
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2574[19:28:25] <obbardc> hey guys, got a foreign buster arm64
chroot in a buster amd64 system. it's getting stuck on
"apt-get update" at 0%. sources.list is filled, and chroot
has web access. Any ideas?
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2578[19:29:08] <jhutchins> obbardc: You should check to see that
you can reach the repos you have configured manually.
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2579[19:29:25] <jhutchins> obbardc: You should check for disk
space as well.
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2581[19:29:48] <obbardc> jhutchins, just main debian repos. disk
space got 1GB free to chroot & have installed the qemu binary
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2586[19:31:17] <AlexZion> jhutchins: I'm on Debain 8 stable
release
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2593[19:35:34] <jhutchins> !dmm
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2594[19:35:35] <dpkg> We recommend against using
deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause
many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because
the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See
replaced-url
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2595[19:36:03] <jhutchins> I personally have had great results
from DMM, though I'm not currently using it. I believe they
have php5-ffmpeg.
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2596[19:36:07] <rawruw> I am editing /etc/pam.d/passwd and
I'm wondering what effect the auth type has here? Nothing is
really happening when I'm adding that
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2598[19:36:49] <jhutchins> AlexZion: It seems like there was some
struggle regarding the maintenance of fmpeg and related packages
during the jessie era, but they seem to have gotten over it.
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2599[19:36:56] <jhutchins> AlexZion:
replaced-url
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2600[19:37:20] <jhutchins> AlexZion: Or you could upgrade to
Stretch and php7, which has significantly improved performance.
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2604[19:39:25] <AlexZion> thanks jhutchins, i'll give a view
to deb-multimedia.org, for now would be nice to use it on"
jessie"
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2624[19:47:04] <AlexZion> jhutchins: I didn't found any info
on php5-ffmpeg in deb-multimedia.org, so if I'll upgrade to PHP
7 I'll have some php-ffmpeg to use ?
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2627[19:48:13] <teraflops> AlexZion:
replaced-url
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2644[19:50:48] <AlexZion> thanks teraflops, all my development
should be just ready for PHP 7 but I'll give the link a deeper
view
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2645[19:51:22] <teraflops> np
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2648[19:51:49] <AlexZion> teraflops: but what about ffmpeg in
php7, do you know if is available ?
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2650[19:52:02] <teraflops> np idea tbh
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2651[19:52:05] <teraflops> no^
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2652[19:52:16] <greycat> wooledg:~$ apt-cache search --names-only
php ffmpeg
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2653[19:52:16] <greycat> wooledg:~$
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2654[19:52:33] <greycat> whatever it is, it's not in stretch
by this name
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2690[19:59:32] <f-a_> hello. My mother uses "geary" to
read emails (and gnome3 as a DE). Is there anything to display
"3 unread emails" on the top bar? (the black one, where
date/wifi/battery is)
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2694[20:00:43] <RedSoxFan08> f-a_: I believe there is. Though I
actually use Thunderbird because it's more full-featured. In
fact, I'm actually typing this in Thunderbird.
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2696[20:01:25] <RedSoxFan08> f-a_: Here's something:
replaced-url
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2697[20:01:47] <RedSoxFan08> f-a_: I found that by using the !deb
bang in DDG.
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2701[20:03:09] <teraflops> f-a_: maybe there's an extension
at
replaced-url
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2702[20:03:09] <f-a_> ohhh
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2705[20:04:34] <AlexZion> ok, I just saw that was a path problem
of ffmpeg, it doesn't need php5-ffmpeg, so I fix the path and
it works great
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2708[20:04:45] <f-a_> thanks teraflops and AlexZion
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2710[20:05:16] <teraflops> np, there is a lot of good stuff at
replaced-url
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2712[20:05:41] <teraflops> …if you do gnome, obv
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2713[20:05:52] <RedSoxFan07> f-a_: teraflops: Yeah, there are a
bunch of extensions there which provide notification of new emails.
I just don't know if they all still work - sometimes
development on certain extensions stops without anybody important
being notified.
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2716[20:06:44] <RedSoxFan07> teraflops: But yeah, the ones I
found on the Debian site are more universal. I like Gnome, but I
also like how light XFCE is and how much faster it is on older
hardware than Gnome.
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2718[20:06:52] <teraflops> I guess so, but maybe between gnome
releases
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2719[20:07:25] <teraflops> RedSoxFan07: ah true if deboian
packages the extensions you need you better go with them I suppose
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2720[20:07:30] <teraflops> debian^
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2726[20:11:12] <noahmg123> Debian actually detects my 2-in-1s
hinge and accelerometer. However, while it disables the keyboard in
tablet mode, it does not disable the touchpad. Is there a way to
make it also disable my touchpad?
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2732[20:13:07] <teraflops> maybe udev rule
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2736[20:13:16] <teraflops> good luck btw :P
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2742[20:16:24] <noahmg123> udev rule, can you elaborate please?
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2748[20:17:12] <noahmg123> teraflops: ^
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2754[20:19:09] <teraflops> when you disconnect e.g lappy from
dockstation or from keyb an udev eevnt is triggered and you can run
actions
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2755[20:19:39] <teraflops> you put them at /etc/udev/rules.d
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2760[20:20:58] <teraflops> it was a very very simple explanation
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2762[20:21:32] <noahmg123> Ah ok. Thank you.
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2763[20:22:13] <teraflops> I meant event not eevnt
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2778[20:29:20] <efrahim> Hi, is there a way to search for which
packages (package *version* in particular) (in testing or backports)
that have a certain bug resolved? (bug in question:
replaced-url
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2779[20:29:22] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2792[20:32:44] <jelly> efrahim: the graph on top right shows
which version(s) got the fix if any
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2797[20:37:11] <efrahim> jelly: oh, cool. I did not see that one.
Thanks.
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2801[20:38:34] <jelly> and apparently no package with a fix was
released, so far
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2819[20:45:26] <obbardc> hey guys, got a foreign buster arm64
chroot in a buster amd64 system. it's getting stuck on
"apt-get update" at 0%. sources.list is filled, and chroot
has web access. Any ideas?
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2820[20:47:04] <ChmEarl> obbardc, use pbuilder
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2822[20:47:26] <efrahim> jelly: There are several things that are
confusing me now... 1. there is no "xorg-server"
package... I guess it is reffering to "xserver-xorg-core"
2. The last reply under that link says fix is in testing (Buster) 3.
... aaah, the red dots/bubbles means that they are still affected
versions
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2824[20:47:38] <obbardc> ChmEarl, I am not using the chroot to
build packages :)
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2825[20:47:43] <ChmEarl> obbardc, it has support of
qemu-debootstrap
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2827[20:48:08] <ChmEarl> obbardc, ok, not building
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2833[20:50:09] <Doxin> So my network connection keeps getting
interrupted, even though the connection is fine. doing
/etc/init.d/networking restart fixes it for about 5 minutes.
what's going on?
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2834[20:50:37] <buu> wired?
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2835[20:50:40] <Doxin> yep
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2837[20:51:10] <Doxin> seems to affect new connections more than
existing ones, although on this other irc channel I keep pinging out
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2838[20:51:35] <Doxin> *network
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2839[20:53:10] <Doxin> just had to restart it again.
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2841[20:54:06] <Doxin> so any debugging I can do on this because
it's driving me insane
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2844[20:55:20] <petemc> Doxin: does the link drop? it should be
logged in dmesg if it does
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2845[20:55:42] <petemc> Doxin: you could also use
tcpdump/wireshark to see what is happening to the connections
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2847[20:55:56] <Doxin> petemc: I don't think so. None of the
software seems to notice anything off until it starts timing out
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2848[20:56:14] <Doxin> I mean I can run wireshark but that's
a lot of traffic for an indeterminate amount of time
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2849[20:56:32] <Doxin> I'll do that when it happens again
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2850[20:56:46] <petemc> its easy to filter by connection in
wireshark
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2853[20:57:31] <Doxin> petemc: sure but which connection do I
filter on? :P
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2854[20:57:46] <petemc> one that timed out
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2870[21:03:23] <Doxin> petemc: no packets show up in wireshark at
all
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2871[21:03:25] <Doxin> which is weird
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2876[21:04:09] <petemc> Doxin: try tcpdump -i eth0 -w foo.pcap ,
adjust interface to suit
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2880[21:04:34] <Doxin> petemc: will do as soon as its going on
again
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2885[21:05:07] <petemc> its usually better to get stream from
initial handshake
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2886[21:05:22] <Doxin> petemc: I made sure I started a new
connection
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2887[21:05:27] <petemc> ok
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2888[21:05:40] <Doxin> petemc: I don't have tcpdump and
installing it like this isn't going to happen I'm pretty
sure
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2901[21:12:10] <Doxin> petemc: either I'm getting very
unlucky or running pcap fixes the problem temporarily too
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2905[21:13:39] <Doxin> petemc: right, managed to capture
/something/. next up?
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2907[21:14:07] <petemc> right click a packet, follow stream
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2908[21:14:44] <Doxin> petemc: how do I with a pcap file?
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2909[21:14:51] <Doxin> nvm got it
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2917[21:16:35] <Doxin> petemc: so now I have a giant packet dump
open in wireshark. how do I find anything even remotely relevant?
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2918[21:17:02] <petemc> are you having problems browsing
websites?
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2919[21:17:16] <Doxin> yes, and irc is being all wonky too
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2922[21:17:38] <Doxin> petemc: filtering by http only finds
successful requests
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2923[21:17:43] <Doxin> and only one as well
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2925[21:18:33] <petemc> if you remember what timed out, you can
search fora string inside packets
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2928[21:18:52] <petemc> assuming it wasnt encrypted
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2930[21:19:08] <Doxin> I doubt it, it never even managed to
redirect to https
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2931[21:19:10] <Doxin> petemc: I'm unfamiliar with the
filter syntax, how would I go about that?
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2935[21:20:20] <petemc> ctrl f , change type to string
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2937[21:21:13] <Doxin> petemc: I'm finding a bunch of dns
queries with no answer
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2940[21:21:45] <Doxin> (I think)
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2941[21:22:01] <petemc> i generally focus on tcp streams
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2944[21:22:33] <Doxin> petemc: no TCP packets found at all for
the site I was trying to visit
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2947[21:22:59] <Doxin> oh if I search by details it finds it
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2948[21:23:02] <petemc> you could try turning off tcp protocol
dissection and looking again
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2949[21:23:05] <petemc> ok
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2950[21:23:14] <Doxin> seems to go all fine in the packet dump
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2951[21:23:31] <petemc> it ends with a FIN >
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2952[21:23:33] <petemc> ?
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2953[21:23:46] <Doxin> yep
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2957[21:24:28] <Doxin> petemc: the tricky thing is this is very
intermittent, so I know I have one successful request in this
capture as well
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2962[21:25:26] <petemc> i often leave tcpdump running for a while
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2963[21:25:43] <Doxin> petemc: so I can get even more noise into
my capture?
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2964[21:25:49] <petemc> which you then filter
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2965[21:25:53] <Doxin> petemc: I'm having trouble finding
anything relevant as-is
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2966[21:25:55] <petemc> or use a capture filter initialluy
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2967[21:26:05] <petemc> s/uy/y/
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2969[21:26:20] <Doxin> petemc: I've got a capture with at
least one bad request in it. running the capture for longer
isn't going to help much
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2970[21:26:31] <petemc> which bad request?
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2972[21:26:40] <Doxin> a request to imgur.com which timed out
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2974[21:26:53] <Doxin> but there's also at least one request
to imgur.com in there which did work
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2976[21:27:16] <petemc> can you find them or not?
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2977[21:27:20] <Doxin> petemc: I can't seem to find the bad
one at all.
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2978[21:27:30] <petemc> but you just said..
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2979[21:27:36] <Doxin> I mean I can see a bunch of dns requests
that fail
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2981[21:27:40] <Doxin> and I can find the working request
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2982[21:27:58] <Doxin> in case you hadn't noticed: I'm
not very good at wireshark.
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2985[21:28:49] <petemc> i told you how to search for a string
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2987[21:29:11] <Doxin> petemc: and I am searching for imgur
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2988[21:29:16] <Doxin> and the result is one requests
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2989[21:29:20] <Doxin> which is successful
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2990[21:29:26] <petemc> so you do not have a capture of a bad
request
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2991[21:29:38] <Doxin> petemc: the capture was running during the
bad request
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2992[21:29:45] <Doxin> as it was previously
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2999[21:32:22] <Doxin> petemc: I think it's going wrong
during name resolution which wont show up as tcp stream.
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3002[21:33:17] <petemc> try using different nameservers then,
like googles 8.8.8.8
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3009[21:34:27] <Doxin> petemc: if I can't reach the
nameserver on my modem I doubt I can reach 8.8.8.8
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3012[21:34:47] <mspo> is your nic losing carrier?
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3013[21:35:10] <Doxin> mspo: nope. link light was on when this
all was going on yesterday
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3014[21:35:25] <Doxin> frantic blinkies on the activity led too,
but that doesn't mean much
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3016[21:35:44] <mspo> Doxin: dmesg show anything?
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3017[21:35:50] <mspo> is dmesg still a thing?
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3018[21:35:54] <petemc> of course
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3019[21:35:59] <annadane> very much yes
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3020[21:36:14] <mspo> it wasn't changed to dmesystemdctlg?
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3021[21:36:26] <mspo> someone better open a feature request :)
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3022[21:36:33] <mspo> Doxin: are you on a cable modem?
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3023[21:36:34] <Doxin> bunch of "[ 2412.589278] device eth0
entered promiscuous mode" because of packet captures
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3025[21:36:43] <mspo> yeah before that
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3026[21:36:50] <Doxin> not much else of relevance as far as I can
see
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3027[21:36:54] <mspo> eth0 lost foo
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3028[21:37:08] <Doxin> nope
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3031[21:37:22] <mspo> Doxin: I like to ping my default gateway in
a screen
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3032[21:37:33] <mspo> Doxin: that way I can see if I can lead-up
latency to an outage or if it's sudden
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3033[21:37:33] <Doxin> mspo: it's unreachable when this
happens
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3035[21:37:44] <Doxin> I can run a ping I guess
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3037[21:37:56] <mspo> Doxin: are you on a cable modem?
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3038[21:38:17] <Doxin> mspo: nah, ADSL, and the modem is not the
issue since this is the only computer having the issue
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3039[21:38:24] <mspo> oh okay
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3040[21:38:25] <mspo> good test
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3043[21:38:51] <mspo> Doxin: have you rebooted? is the nic using
a kernel module?
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3044[21:39:08] <Doxin> mspo: yeah I had the same problem 3 days
now, and I reboot every day
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3045[21:39:30] <mspo> Doxin: ran memtest? :)
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3046[21:39:40] <Doxin> no?
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3047[21:39:54] <Doxin> I've got better things to do that
have my memory crap out on me :P
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3048[21:39:59] <Doxin> *than
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3050[21:40:28] <mspo> could be hardware
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3052[21:40:39] <mspo> have you tried wireless instead?
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3054[21:40:56] <Doxin> mspo: I have no wireless
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3055[21:41:04] <Doxin> I mean it /is/ the NIC on a $30
motherboard, but then why does restarting the networking work?
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3056[21:41:07] <mspo> a different nic? a new cable?
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3057[21:41:37] <Doxin> haven't got either of those, and
pulling a new cable through the walls is a bit of a last resort
thing
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3058[21:41:39] <mspo> idk look at what restarting the network
does
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3059[21:41:55] <mspo> does it drop carrier and bring it back up?
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3060[21:41:56] <Doxin> presumably it puts the interface down and
back up
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3075[21:45:54] <jhutchins> Doxin: Reloads some of the components
as well.
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3076[21:46:15] <jhutchins> Doxin: Try moving the cable to a
different port on the router.
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3077[21:46:19] <Doxin> okay so I think it's actually just
the dns server being wonky
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3078[21:46:26] <jhutchins> Doxin: Is the cable in good physical
condition?
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3079[21:46:31] <Doxin> ping has been going uninterrupted while
everything is going wrong
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3080[21:46:41] <Doxin> jhutchins: I mean the clip is broken off,
but it's not work at all
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3083[21:47:13] <jhutchins> Doxin: Could be it's not seating
properly. New cable might be just the thing.
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3086[21:47:59] <jhutchins> Doxin: So might a $5 card.
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3088[21:48:23] <Doxin> jhutchins: I'm not getting cable-like
symptoms at all
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3090[21:48:31] <Doxin> jhutchins: and the stores are closed right
now in any case
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3093[21:48:59] <mspo> I have a usb nic and usb wireless in a
drawer somewhere around here :)
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3095[21:49:06] <jhutchins> Doxin: You could verify that it's
not the cable by swapping the cable by swapping with another
machine.
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3097[21:49:39] <Doxin> jhutchins: wouldn't you expect link
to go down in the bad-cable case?
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3098[21:49:53] <Doxin> jhutchins: and the closes machine is down
a set of stairs and the cable isn't /that/ long
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3099[21:49:55] <jhutchins> Doxin: Nope. That's only one
pair.
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3100[21:50:29] <Doxin> jhutchins: well wouldn't you still
expect a bunch of dropped packets to a fixed ip? because I'm
getting 0% packet loss to the gateway
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3101[21:50:34] <lroe> Is there a way for UFW to print the current
rule set in such a way UFW can ingest it?
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3106[21:51:17] <jhutchins> Doxin: I've given you a couple of
ideas to try. I think you're looking for nosmoke.exe (look it
up).
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3107[21:51:44] <Doxin> jhutchins: I'm looking for a solution
that doesn't involve twiddling my thumbs until the weekend
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3109[21:51:54] <Doxin> jhutchins: it's most definitely not a
cable problem
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3112[21:52:03] <Doxin> jhutchins: and I can't check a NIC
problem till its weekend
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3116[21:52:18] <Doxin> jhutchins: and in any case the symptoms
point to a janky dns server.
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3118[21:53:01] <petemc> that wouldnt cause irc to time out
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3119[21:53:34] <Doxin> petemc: agreed, but it's on a russian
network that sometimes likes timing you out anyways, in which case
the not-reconnecting seems about right
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3122[21:53:56] <Doxin> anyways I added a couple backup dns
servers, lets see if that'll help
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3129[21:57:04] <Doxin> petemc, jhutchins: thanks for the help
though
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3132[21:58:14] <petemc> np
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3135[21:59:41] <jhutchins> Doxin: Yeah, switch to google dns is
what most people do. Sounds like it might very well be the network.
Switching ports on the router could help though.
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3136[22:00:04] <Doxin> mhm
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3137[22:01:34] <Satou> Hello guys, i did a clean install of
debian 8.9, installed i3wm and it seems to have a lot of glitches, i
don't know yet if it's because of graphics drivers or i3,
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3141[22:03:34] <AlbaLupus> hi, I cannot ping my server after
reboot. I'm chrooting from rescue image now. What should I
check?
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3145[22:04:39] <jhutchins> AlbaLupus: Logs.
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3146[22:04:43] <fearnothing> ok, let's try this again since
I had no luck yesterday
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3147[22:04:54] <jhutchins> AlbaLupus: dmesg, journalctl.
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3148[22:04:59] <fearnothing> I'm having major troubles with
the only x11 app I use, it has stopped rendering all text
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3149[22:05:07] <fearnothing>
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3150[22:05:21] <jhutchins> fearnothing: Did you try cygwin?
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3151[22:05:41] <jhutchins> fearnothing: Did you try another app
that renders text?
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3152[22:05:55] <fearnothing> jhutchins - I don't have any
others that I know of. What would you suggest?
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3156[22:06:25] <mspo> xfontsel?
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3157[22:06:44] <jhutchins> Not sure what might be common.
Titlebar text is rendered by the local server iirc...
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3161[22:06:58] <mspo> maybe run fc-cache or something?
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3162[22:07:00] <jhutchins> fearnothing: Is the titlebar legible
(I don't remember)
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3163[22:07:18] <fearnothing> as for cygwin, do you think that is
likely to provide information that ssh -Y from a linux box did not?
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3164[22:07:24] <fearnothing> and yes the titlebar is legible
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3167[22:07:44] <fearnothing> mspo - fc-cache was suggested
yesterday, didn't help
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3169[22:08:01] <jhutchins> mspo: He's forwarding a single
graphical application from a headless server to xming, and after an
update the font quit rendering, box-with-question-mark glyph instead
of each letter (us_en).
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3170[22:08:15] <fearnothing> well, I'm assuming it was an
update
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3171[22:08:19] <mspo> so the font is totally corrupted
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3172[22:08:19] <fearnothing> I don't know for sure
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3174[22:08:40] <mspo> or the app changed to utf8 and broke it
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3175[22:08:43] <jhutchins> mspo: All we know is that the font is
no longer rendering.
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3177[22:09:00] <jhutchins> mspo: UTF-8 is pretty standard.
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3179[22:09:19] <mspo> fearnothing: any idea what font is not
rendering, specifically?
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3180[22:09:23] <mspo> fearnothing: and can you run xfontsel?
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3181[22:09:30] <AlbaLupus> jhutchins: No journal files were
found.
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3183[22:10:10] <fearnothing> mspo: I don't know how to
verify this, but all the blog posts I've found referencing
similar issues said it was one of the dejavu fonts
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3188[22:10:44] <fearnothing> aha, yes
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3189[22:10:51] <fearnothing> xfontsel works, and the text renders
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3190[22:11:19] <AlbaLupus> dmesg dont show anything unusual
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3191[22:12:15] <fearnothing> there are a number of dejavu fonts
listed in xfontsel
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3193[22:12:20] <fearnothing> they all seem to render correctly
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3195[22:12:48] <fearnothing> so that would suggest it's
something specific to virt-manager's method of accessing the
font yes?
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3196[22:13:03] <fearnothing> assuming that it is indeed a dejavu
font
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3207[22:17:46] <AlbaLupus> any other ideas?
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3211[22:18:03] <mspo> it is a python app using gtk, looks like
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3218[22:20:12] <mspo> which means pango, right?
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3229[22:23:52] <mspo> can you do a GTK_DEBUG or --gtk-debug ?
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3236[22:25:56] <fearnothing> mspo - me? Possibly but I'll
have to look up how
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3243[22:27:48] <fearnothing> I've tried running it with its
--debug option but I can't seem to redirect the output to a
file
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3248[22:29:13] <fearnothing> ah wait, that's because I had
the params in the wrong order
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3252[22:29:46] <mspo> I mean gtk debug specifically but try
anything
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3253[22:30:15] <fearnothing> yeah, just reading how to do that
part
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3254[22:30:49] <mspo> you could also start it with a custom GTK
profile?
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3261[22:31:47] <mspo> what's another pygtk app to try?
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3266[22:33:11] <fearnothing> no errors regarding the font in the
debug output
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3270[22:33:58] <AlbaLupus> Cannot ping server, nothing suspicious
in logs. Chrooted from rescue image. What else should I check?
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3273[22:34:35] <fearnothing> hmm
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3274[22:34:54] <fearnothing> so when I run this with
GTK_DEBUG=all, I get GTK+ Inspector
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3275[22:35:05] <AlbaLupus> iptables are flushed
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3276[22:35:11] <fearnothing> and interestingly, the fonts for GTK
inspector are also not rendering
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3277[22:35:21] <fearnothing> so this might be an issue at the gtk
level
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3279[22:36:03] <mspo>
replaced-url
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3287[22:37:52] <fearnothing> most fonts seem ok there
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3289[22:38:10] <mspo> man idk :)
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3290[22:38:12] <fearnothing> Droid Sans ones don't seem to
work
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3294[22:38:41] <Unit193> Droid" Wasn't that replaced by
noto?
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3295[22:38:45] <mspo> I was just looking for simple python gtk
stuff
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3297[22:38:57] <mspo> virtmanager is python2, though
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3298[22:39:06] <fearnothing> good point
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3299[22:39:09] <fearnothing> maybe it's a py2 issue
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3300[22:39:16] <fearnothing> python
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3301[22:39:19] <fearnothing> erm
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3303[22:39:29] <fearnothing> ok let's actually be in a
terminal next time I do that :)
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3305[22:39:30] <mspo> that same program (or a very very similar
one) would probably work under python2
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3312[22:40:56] <fearnothing> aaaand here we see... that all the
fonts work as expected
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3369[22:51:47] <fearnothing> thanks for your time anyway mspo
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