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7[00:02:26] <its-a-me> hello, I don't know how to
manually partition to set up an encrypted system. I can't use
guided because I want to keep the exixting EFI and macos partitions
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15[00:03:51] <Brigo> its-a-me, maybe there is any guide in the
web.
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18[00:04:41] <its-a-me> I could not find one detailed enough
but I can try again
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20[00:05:33] <its-a-me> I tried to make a new partition and
"Use as" physical encrypted volume
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22[00:06:03] <Brigo> its-a-me, i really never used encryption,
so not much help here. sorry.
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23[00:06:18] <its-a-me> as for swap, I learned that I can make
a swapfile later within the encrypted volume
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31[00:08:25] <its-a-me> Brigo, thanks anyway :) I'll stick
around and maybe report later if I'm successful w another guide
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32[00:08:29] <cq1> Hey folks. I just got my Russian keyboard in
the mail, and I confirmed that it works fine with "setxkbmap
ru", but I want to be able to switch back and forth with a
keyboard shortcut. Is there a standard way of setting this up?
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35[00:09:45] <v0idpwn> I would set up a bash script, but
probably theres a better alternative
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45[00:14:27] <RoyK> cq1: not sure - I haven't used debian
on a desktop for a while, but setting up a shortcut should be easy -
most systems I know have that built in
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49[00:15:33] <RoyK> cq1: I normally switch between norwegian
and US keyboard layouts all the time since I like the US kbd layout
better for programming, and haven't bothered to design my own
yet
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53[00:16:16] <RoyK> cq1:
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64[00:18:33] <v0idpwn> is someone really into dvorak?
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67[00:19:14] <Sveta> v0idpwn: sometimes.
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70[00:20:31] <v0idpwn> dominate vim again >_<
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73[00:21:31] <cq1> RoyK: I feel pretty dumb. I just looked in
the obvious MATE settings GUI thing and it was super easy.
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76[00:22:08] <cq1> Also, as per xkcd 1806, when I was in
college I set up my desktop to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak
every 5 seconds, and use xrandr to slightly tint the screen so I
could tell which one it was.
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77[00:22:15] <cq1> You could actually learn to anticipate the
switches and type fine.
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83[00:24:48] <v0idpwn> and I thought i was autist
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97[00:28:52] <Guest46071> hello everyone, i'm new to
debian. Can you guys point me to some cool things within the
operating system! I got a small programming background, maybe some
cool programs to build to learn the operating system !
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100[00:29:17] <v0idpwn> there's a lot of material in the
internet
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101[00:29:34] <v0idpwn> what is your programming background?
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106[00:31:58] <Guest46071> little bit of python and web apps
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111[00:32:46] <v0idpwn> try some ricing
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131[00:48:14] <Rotonen> volatility of web guests be damned, but
i suppose dpkg-reconfigure and update-alternatives could be in the
generic basket of 'cool things debian'
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140[00:54:18] <Unit193> That's what you'd list?
Granted, it's a means to an end, not really sure what
"cool" things are Debian.
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156[01:04:33] <Tom-_> what's cool about Debian? that's
a mighty question :)
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165[01:09:03] <munyah> How do I change the applications menu in
MATE on Debian 9? I've installed alacarte but trying to add a
new menu just does nothing at all, and trying to deselect an item
doesn't even save changes across restart of alacarte much less
effect the applications menu in gnome.
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169[01:11:32] <jnes> I need to set up my wifi driver to do a
netinstall...... This is such a mess! It's a macbook pro with a
bcm4331 wifi chip.. dmesg says "failed to load
b43/ht0initvals29.fw (-2)"
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173[01:12:03] <munyah> nm, the answer is to install mozo
apparently alacarte doesn't work on MATE Desktop
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177[01:13:27] <carl_> Hi everyone I can't update anymore my
Stretch and I have no idea why, when I do apt-get update on the
terminal I get this message:
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178[01:14:11] <centrx> carl_: What does your sources.list look
like?
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179[01:14:21] <centrx> carl_: I would point the domain at
httpredir.debian.org
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184[01:16:24] <Rotonen> centrx: rather
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186[01:17:21] <centrx> Rotonen: Is that new or something?
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187[01:17:39] <carl_> I was on the main server then changed to
european servers but nothing change, the sources lists seems to be
empty..
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189[01:17:54] <Rotonen> popped up about a year ago or so? before
stretch was released
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190[01:18:15] <centrx> yeah looks like httpredir.debian.org
points there now
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191[01:18:23] <centrx> carl_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list to see
the sources.list
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193[01:18:39] <Rotonen> those are not very well announced,
i'm still unsure as to where that'd been announced, but
then again i'm not following any committees very closely
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195[01:19:41] <carl_> etc/apt/sources.list is empty, I have
tried witd gedit ... and nano ...
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196[01:19:55] <Rotonen> so far i've always spotted those
kinds of developments when
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197[01:20:06] <centrx> !sources.list
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198[01:20:06] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Stretch" has three lines: "deb
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200[01:20:21] <centrx> carl_: ^ put those in there
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201[01:20:44] <centrx> carl_: I am surprised that apt-get update
gives that message if sources.list is empty though, seems like it
wouldn't try a URL at all
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203[01:21:21] <carl_> can you give me a page where to load them?
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207[01:22:58] <carl_> is it ok this?
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210[01:24:10] <jnes> w
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214[01:25:21] <centrx> carl_: Looks good
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215[01:25:38] <centrx> carl_: You can comment out the deb-src
lines though, most people don't need those
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223[01:26:44] <carl_> ok, hey now they appeared again, please
check it
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226[01:27:11] <freq> when will firefox 57 come over?
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227[01:27:21] <centrx> carl_: sounds like whatever tool
you're using is rewriting the sources.list
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228[01:27:33] <centrx> carl_: That sources.list should work
though
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230[01:28:27] <centrx> freq: Debian uses the ESR releases of
Firefox to ensure continued security support
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234[01:29:29] <centrx> freq: The non-ESR versions are in
unstable/sid, which you could potentially use if you use unstable or
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238[01:30:51] <freq> it's in the sources.list
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239[01:31:15] <centrx> freq: ok, but don't mix stable with
unstable, that will effectively upgrade your entire system to
unstable
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241[01:31:28] <centrx> freq: doesn't work to have sid as an
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242[01:31:31] <freq> yeah i don't do full upgrades
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243[01:31:48] <freq> just update and upgrade
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246[01:32:12] <centrx> I mean as more libraries get new versions
in sid, you'll find that a new version of libc6, apt, and
everything else will be pulled in when you install a single package
from sid
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247[01:32:15] <carl_> no upgrade, strange
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249[01:32:32] <freq> yeah, that's what i wanted to happen
:)
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259[01:35:56] <centrx> freq: ok yeah, I assume sid will get v57
sometime, since it has v56 and had others in the past
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266[01:39:14] <Rotonen>
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268[01:40:15] <Rotonen> (or i'm pretty certain the people
who run that are mozilla, but could be just very eager volunteers
too)
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270[01:41:10] <freq> thank you
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271[01:41:12] <freq>
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274[01:41:41] <Unit193> Rotonen: I'd expect if
'mozilla' ran it, then it'd be debian.mozilla.org or
somesuch, not mozilla.debian.net
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276[01:44:14] <carl_> centrx, I have not resolved the problem
but thanks anyway
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281[01:45:01] <Rotonen> Unit193: mike hommey does work at
mozilla, though :P
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284[01:45:24] <Unit193> He's the Debian maintainer of the
package though, sooo..
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285[01:45:36] <centrx> carl_: One option is to change to a
different server, maybe the one it's connecting to is missing
those files for some reason? (deb.debian.org is a round-robin
redirector)
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286[01:45:56] <centrx> carl_: Or maybe there is a problem with
the Internet connection or DNS resolution on that machine?
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289[01:47:03] <Rotonen> Unit193: i meant to imply it is often so
that a company which does something open sourced actually donates
the time to distros and whatnot for packaging (and thus my suspicion
it is actually mozilla running the repo, but as caveated, might as
well be just plain wrong)
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290[01:48:48] <carl_> centrx, I have not changed the dns here
and I have not problem to surf the web or update the repository, I
have tryed with other european servers but nothing
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294[01:49:28] <amflir> how can I understand trace-cmd output? is
there any documentation? for example:
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296[01:49:45] <Rotonen> Unit193: also it's under the wider
umbrella of .net, not under the guaranteedly-debian-proper .org
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298[01:50:07] <Unit193> Rotonen: That I did notice, under the
community umbrella.
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301[01:50:30] <Rotonen> like http.debian.net was a thing before
becoming httpredir.debian.org before becoming deb.debian.org
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306[01:53:10] <Rotonen> also i'm just way out of date on
mozilla.debian.net - seems like it just resolves which debian repo
contains what these days instead of also being a deb repo - so the
discussion i'm having does not even exist anymore to begin with
:-)
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313[01:55:27] <carutsu> I'm trying to install etcd but if I
do apt-get update; apt-get install -y etcd
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314[01:55:29] <carutsu> doesn't wokr
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315[01:55:44] <carutsu> neither apt-get install etcd-client nor
etcd-server
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316[01:55:47] <carutsu> this is debian 9
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318[01:56:13] <carutsu> is it in a repository I need to enable?
I'm confused by the package list
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321[01:59:46] <annadane> ,v etcd
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322[01:59:47] <judd> Package: etcd on amd64 -- sid: 3.2.9+dfsg-2
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323[01:59:53] <annadane> carutsu, not in stretch
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325[02:00:17] <annadane> carutsu,
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326[02:00:35] <annadane> alternatively
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327[02:00:36] <annadane> !ssb
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328[02:00:37] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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345[02:08:04] <carutsu> !deb-src sid
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346[02:08:04] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages
with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable
entry for the sid release is: "deb-src
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347[02:08:22] <carutsu> !bdo
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348[02:08:22] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
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349[02:08:49] <abrotman> carutsu: you can msg the bot
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350[02:08:55] <abrotman> dpkg: tell carutsu about msg the bot
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352[02:09:03] <carutsu> abrotman: sorry, thanks
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359[02:13:59] <david_> I'm trying to install a program for
editing Quake levels called Trenchbroom using the supplied .deb
package. When I try to install it says I don't have libpng12-0
installed. I can't figure out a way to install it and libpng
seems to be at version 16 now and it is installed.
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363[02:15:02] <Usual> Hi, is anyone here successfully running
bumblebee with the nvidia Optimus on a dell xps 15? I cannot make
this work and I’ve hit a point where I’m not sure what
to try next
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364[02:15:24] <Rotonen> david_: follow up with an apt-get
install -f
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384[02:31:03] <david_> Roten: That says it uninstalled
Trenchbroom. Is that what it was supposed to do?
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393[02:37:28] <Rotonen> david_: if it could not satisfy the
dependencies the package listed, yes
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394[02:38:19] <Rotonen> david_: if it could satisfy the
dependencies the package lists, it would install the deps and finish
the package configure steps - it probably tells you in the output
what happened and for what reason
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407[02:44:45] <nezZario> are .deb's signed, or are the
files generated by dpkg-scanpackages signed?
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408[02:45:08] <nezZario> like every time i add a new third party
repo, i usually have to add a GPG key. is that for the files that
list the packages or the packages themselves?
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409[02:45:18] <nezZario> i'm looking into basically making
a very soft fork of debian
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411[02:45:38] <Unit193> That'd be for the package lists.
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412[02:45:39] <Ilyas> what's the most painless way to
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413[02:46:11] <Unit193> Specifically, inline in InRelease, or
detached in the old style Release.gpg
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415[02:46:22] <nezZario> that would just contain some normal
debian stable, overlaid with some custom packages, overlaid with
some third party repos, in one big apt source I can add to a small
fleet of servers and keep everything in sync without having to worry
about pinning and all that mess
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417[02:47:22] <Unit193> From what I understand,
'aptly' can handle package imports.
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419[02:47:52] <nezZario> never heard of it, i'll check it
out. i was going to just write basically a custom proxy
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421[02:48:46] <optimus\prime> The l0de Radio Hour is LIVE ! Call
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424[02:48:50] <nezZario> we are running about 30 instances/nodes
and some of them are extremely dynamic
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425[02:48:51] <Unit193>
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427[02:49:48] <nezZario> Unit193: what software are you using?
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428[02:50:10] <nezZario> aptly looks pretty darn awesome
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429[02:50:14] <nezZario> even supports S3
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431[02:50:28] <Unit193> nezZario: I don't need much, so
mini-dinstall (gee, does it show?
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434[02:52:07] <nezZario> so using this mini-dinstall you are
overlaying several different repos into one local repo?
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436[02:52:32] <Unit193> No, I build a package, sign, dput and it
does the rest.
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437[02:53:18] <Ilyas> also, it it by design that sudo is not
installed with Stretch?
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439[02:53:39] <Ilyas> I installed a VM using the netinst cd
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440[02:54:03] <nezZario> Ilyas: i'm pretty sure it just
depends on what "base" you use. using the bare minimum
base, that's what you get. a bare minimum base. pretty sure the
bare minimum doesn't even include 'less'
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445[02:54:48] <nezZario> there are a lot of really common
packages that the bare minimum install doesn't come with, but
that's a good thing / the point of a bare minimum install. you
only install what you absolutely need.
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446[02:55:04] <nezZario> i have a long list of very common
packages I use on all my installs if you want the list I'll PM
it to you
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447[02:55:09] <Ilyas> oh
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450[02:55:22] <Ilyas> I had no idea I was installing the bare
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451[02:55:35] <Ilyas> I guess I'll stumble upon things as I
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453[02:55:55] <Ilyas> I thought getting a CD as an installer
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455[02:56:30] <nezZario> pretty sure during the installation you
are given the option to install a bunch of 'sets' which
are just meta packages that point to a large list of common types of
setups (like, graphical kde, graphical gnome, etc)
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456[02:56:45] <nezZario> large list of packages that coincide
with common setups*
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457[02:57:54] <Ilyas> yeah, i chose gnome, base stuff, ssh
server and one more I think
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461[02:58:42] <nezZario> if you don't mind i'll PM you
some gists that might help you
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493[03:07:16] <annadane> meier88, not an advertising channel.
stop it.
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494[03:07:18] <nezZario> anyway, Unit193, I hate to sound daft
but are you compiling *all* the packages yourself or do you mean
you're just compiling the packages you need from source ?
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496[03:07:53] <nezZario> just honestly curious because I tried
to do this a few months ago and ran into the issue it seemed like
nobody else done what i'm talking about / what you're
claiming you did
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500[03:08:58] <nezZario> sorry i don't mean to sound like i
don't believe you... haha... but i'm just a bit excited
because like i said i've been wanting to do this for months and
nearly wrote a 100% custom script a few months ago to accomplish it
but ended up having to drop it
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516[03:12:58] <nezZario> Unit193: one last question for you. are
you using aptly at all? or just mini-dinstall? ... mini-dinstall
definitely looks like it would be easier to use along with dput.
i'm not 100% familiar with either being i've only been
reading since you gave me a link 22 minutes ago. but just curious
about above + aptly and irregardless if you see this thank you *so*
much
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551[03:29:32] <vktr01330> hi. i'm installing debian and i
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564[03:35:01] <RedSoxFan08> Is there a chart for compose key
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571[03:37:21] <Ilyas> shutting down a Debian 9 vm takes forever,
waiting for a job. is that by design?
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572[03:37:30] <nezZario> no, what's the job?
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575[03:37:38] <nezZario> it should be pretty darn quick
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577[03:37:55] <nezZario> only thing i've ever noticed some
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578[03:37:59] <Ilyas> it's not. carp, the message vanished
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580[03:38:15] <Ilyas> I'll back to this tomorrow with the
message itself
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581[03:38:27] <pingfloyd> check the logs?
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582[03:38:40] <Ilyas> it seems like my fiddling with the vbox
guest additions causes the VM to not load properly now
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583[03:38:48] <Ilyas> >_<
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584[03:39:04] <pingfloyd> do you have the right version of
additions installed?
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585[03:39:15] <pingfloyd> should match your vbox version
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586[03:39:36] <Ilyas> I tried the the ISO that came with my vbox
install(5.2)
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587[03:39:37] <pingfloyd> same thing goes for the extensions
pack
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589[03:39:49] <pingfloyd> iso?
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590[03:39:55] <Ilyas> which I inserted into the guess, which
then fails on the autorun
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591[03:40:00] <Ilyas> yes?
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593[03:40:11] <Ilyas> I can insert a guest additions cd into the
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595[03:40:34] <Ilyas> is that not how to install the guest
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598[03:41:54] <Ilyas> I'll get back on this tomorrow,
thanks thus far
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620[03:58:15] <Unit193> nezZario: As I said, overlay repo so
only the changed/added parts, it's a small repo. I have never
used aptly, friend of mine does thus has mentioned several things
about it. Biggest downside to mini-dinstall is that it only does
flat repositories, not the "newer" style (don't know
the name.)
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686[04:50:25] <MrRick> how do I change the video driver used?
Debian does not appear to be using the intel 810 video drivers and
the default 648x480 is awfull
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692[04:52:04] <Megaf> MrRick: do you know whats the correct
driver name and if you have it installed?
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698[04:53:52] <MrRick> Megaf: I want to boot up and load the
intel i810 video module. Instead it appears I've defaulted to a
Vesta/VGA mode
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699[04:54:27] <MrRick> I don't know if it is a problem with
Grub or xwindows
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702[04:55:11] <MrRick> I have other linux distros that will load
up fine: Knoppix liveCD for example
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703[04:55:27] <MrRick> so I know the hardware works
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706[04:55:43] <Megaf> MrRick: first try installing the package
firmware-linux-nonfree
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707[04:56:11] <Megaf> you may need to add the repos contrib
non-free in addition main in your sources.list
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708[04:56:46] <MrRick> thanks, I know that the contrib and
non-free repositories aren't enabled by default. I'll try
that Megaf.
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709[04:56:49] <Megaf> so it will look something like deb
replaced-url
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710[04:57:15] <Megaf> and the firmware for your GPU my be inside
the firmware-linux-nonfree package
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711[04:57:18] <Megaf> but it's just a guess
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712[04:57:38] <Megaf> It's nice installing it anyway,
because it will update your CPUs microcode
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714[04:58:15] <MrRick> Megaf: I'll give it a shot. thanks
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716[04:59:51] <MrRick> I'm going to have to sign-out and
re-boot. I'm crossing my fingers.
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720[05:01:33] <chiggins> Any reason why a totally open share can
be mounted and written to via a linux client, but trying to write to
it via a Windows client gives a permission denied?
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723[05:06:57] <chiggins> File level permissions on the host.
Oops.
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725[05:07:17] <vktr01330> hi. i'm installing debian and i
have a little problem setting up an encrypted swap. the manual
isn't very clear to me. someone can quickly give me a hand?
mainly not sure in which order to do things
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726[05:07:42] <Megaf> vktr01330: Are you using the entire hard
drive?
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727[05:07:52] <un214> I know the dumb way
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728[05:08:00] <Megaf> That is, is Debian going to be alone in
that computer?
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729[05:08:22] <vktr01330> Megan, no, i have windoze on it which
i like to keep
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732[05:08:34] <vktr01330> *Megaf
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733[05:08:38] <Megaf> MegaF
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737[05:09:59] <un214> vktr01330 you wan the dumb way?
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738[05:10:03] <Megaf> vktr01330: so you could on windows first
defrag your partitons, then use windows disk utility to resize your
partititions creating a blank space. Then you run Debian installer
and tell it to create encrypted volumes using the free space in the
guided mode
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739[05:10:03] <FukShitLOL> dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs
dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs
dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs
dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs
dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs dongs
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740[05:10:20] <Megaf> can anyone ban FukShitLOL please?
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741[05:10:31] <FukShitLOL> can anyone ban Megaf please?
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742[05:10:42] <un214> good luck with that troll
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743[05:10:49] <FukShitLOL> good luck with that troll
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747[05:11:41] <Megaf> hm /ignore command from IRCcloud is quite
good
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749[05:12:02] <Megaf> it cleans all the messages from the
buffer/hisotry
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750[05:12:06] <un214> what does it mean k-lined?
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751[05:12:21] <Megaf> banned from the network by an IRC Operator
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752[05:12:38] <un214> good
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757[05:14:38] <Megaf> I have a fresh Stretch install here, that
I did a minimal netinstall
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758[05:14:45] <Megaf> firstboot went to Buster
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759[05:14:49] <Megaf> and now going to Sid :)
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760[05:14:53] <vktr01330> un214: that's guided, right, not
an option, but thanks
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761[05:14:53] <vktr01330> Megaf, resizing the partitions
isn't a problem. i have plenty of free space left actually.
it's the partitioning at installation i have difficulty with.
especially setting up an encrypted swap. not sure in which order to
do things. and now i have a logical partition i can't get rid
of
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763[05:15:02] <Megaf> and did the encrypted install
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765[05:15:33] <noahmg123> A gtk theme I'm trying to install
isn't changing all of the graphical elements it's supposed
to.
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766[05:15:36] <Megaf> vktr01330: so here it created one
encrypted group and two volumes inside of it
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767[05:16:06] <Megaf> vktr01330: you want to encrypt only the
swap?
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768[05:16:11] <vktr01330> Megaf: yes
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769[05:16:17] <Megaf> why?
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770[05:16:27] <Megaf> theres no reason to encrypt your swap
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772[05:16:37] <Megaf> if / is not enrypted too
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773[05:16:50] <un214> maybe there's nothing interseting on
the disk because he calls down his programs remotely
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774[05:16:59] <vktr01330> Megaf: i want to make an encrypted
folder for my private files later
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776[05:17:26] <un214> but in fact I'd recommend encrypting
/ anyway
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777[05:17:32] <vktr01330> Megaf: not to encrypt the whole / or
/home and slow down boot
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780[05:17:43] <Megaf> the thing is. If / is not encrypted, then
anyone can get access to everything else anyway
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781[05:18:35] <Megaf> vktr01330: and I have full root encryption
here on my AMD E1 dual core at 1,3 Ghz and also on a Core2Duo 2,4
Ghz
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782[05:18:45] <Megaf> no slowdown at all at any moment
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784[05:19:12] <vktr01330> Megaf: not even at boot?
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785[05:19:32] <Megaf> Not that I'm aware off, maybe one
second slower? Or half second?
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786[05:19:59] <Megaf> the only thing is that it will not let the
system boot unless I put the volume password
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787[05:19:59] <vktr01330> Megaf: also, how can people access
encrypted folders even if they have access to root?
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788[05:20:03] <Megaf> which is good
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789[05:20:17] <Megaf> it is decrypted at boot time
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790[05:20:37] <Megaf> or access is granted at boot time
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791[05:20:51] <un214> ah yes that's right encrypted swap
has to have a boot time key
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792[05:21:03] <un214> unless you really do enter key every boot
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793[05:21:08] <Megaf> any important partition really
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795[05:22:17] <vktr01330> if you have several users you'll
also have to give a password twice, or not? if whole disk is
encrypted
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796[05:23:56] <Megaf> before the system boot, access is given to
everyone, you only type the password once
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797[05:24:59] <Megaf> if you have different users, you can
encrypt each users home folder separately and decrypt only when the
user logs in, but that is way beyond my current knowledge
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799[05:27:01] <vktr01330> Megaf: for that if already found and
used clear how-to's. but i can't find a clear tutorial on
how to encrypt specific partitions. i still think this is a good
compromise security-resources-wise
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800[05:27:48] <Megaf> vktr01330: you just create a partition in
the installer and as type you select encrypted volume
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802[05:28:13] <Megaf> just after creating them, you click in the
setup encrypted volumes
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803[05:28:13] <vktr01330> Megaf: and then i can use it as swap?
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804[05:28:36] <Megaf> and just after that, you can set one
partition as swap, other as home and so on
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806[05:29:56] <vktr01330> Megaf: i create a new partition
,closest option i have is "physical volume for
encryption", i select that and go to "setup encrypted
vol"?
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810[05:30:41] <Megaf> precisely
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820[05:38:53] <vktr01330> Megaf: it doesn't work like that.
but i think i half-accidentally managed it
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822[05:39:28] <Megaf> I just use the automagic guided mode...
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829[05:45:40] <vktr01330> Megaf: i could have :p But i want
things "custom". Anyway, you have to make a separate swap
partition and then choose that as mount point of the encrypted
one... i think
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831[05:45:59] <ImNotHere> Good night :)
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832[05:46:05] <ImNotHere> almost 5 AM
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835[05:48:04] <vktr01330> ImNotHere: almost noon :p
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862[05:59:22] <vktr01330> i've installed two DE and have to
set gdm or lightdm as default display manager. which is best?
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870[06:03:14] <BenNZ> vktr01330: depends on your personal
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872[06:03:51] <vktr01330> BenNZ: so, no big problem either way?
(running XFCE and gnome3)
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875[06:05:20] <BenNZ> vktr01330: i prefer lightdm and xfce , you
shouldnt have any problems with using lightdm with gnome either ,
but since i dont use gnome-shell i could be wrong
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879[06:07:05] <vktr01330> BenNZ: i selected gdm3 which i guess
will now run both. maybe i can set up lightdm for XFCE and gdm3 for
gnome later. anyway, thnks
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930[06:36:25] <gladioacuto> good morgning everyboy
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932[06:36:30] <gladioacuto> everybody
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935[06:37:58] <gladioacuto> yesterday X server on Stretch
crashed and in /var/log/syslog I get this horrible line:'
org.a11y.atspi.Registry[677]: XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource
temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" '
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938[06:39:00] <gladioacuto> second, resuming from hibernation I
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saved to /sys/class/drm/card0/error ' and sometimes resuming
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939[06:39:13] <gladioacuto> What's going on? Any help
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1015[07:15:50] <timothywcrane> just installed debian 9 on my VPS
(minimal with ssh) to begin one of the famous "perfect
server" tutorials (with email,web, and ispconfig3). Is the best
practice to first create an SU account and not use root?
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1021[07:17:59] <asaba> timothywcrane, to use root only when you
need is always one of the best practice :P
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1027[07:21:29] <timothywcrane> thnx asaba... who died? just a
joke on your name from fiqh studies. Hope you understand the joke.
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1066[07:46:19] <civilIp> "Lord God, give us the strength
that we may retain our liberty for our children and our
children's children, not only for ourselves but also for the
other peoples of Europe, for this is a war which we all wage, this
time, not for our German people alone, it is a war for all of Europe
and with it, in the long run, for all of MANKIND." |
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1070[07:47:24] <Shmam> So I'm trying to get into my old rpi.
Forgot the user and password. I can get the Debian 8 login screen to
show up. How can I recover the password? Holding shift furing bootup
didn't work
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1072[07:47:46] <white|raven> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
CdfFn3yZQk7OZvnTY1fM
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1074[07:48:07] <oerheks> white|raven, time to change password
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1075[07:48:54] <timothywcrane> I thought same ;)
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1076[07:49:02] <strength> civilIp: what in the shit are you on
about?
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1077[07:49:06] <Shmam> yeah wut
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1078[07:49:17] <Shmam> uve been compromised agent
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1079[07:49:27] <Shmam> we're pullin u out
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1080[07:49:38] <Shmam> but pls someone help me recover my
password
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1081[07:49:44] <Shmam> need halp like rite nao
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1083[07:50:15] <oerheks>
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1084[07:50:30] <Shmam> i cant get in
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1085[07:50:31] <Shmam> at all
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1087[07:50:44] <Shmam> cant put in any commands. I get stuck in
the login screen
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1088[07:51:01] <strength> you will probably have to use the
serial kvm
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1089[07:51:24] <Shmam> can I brute force somehow? it does have an
ssh server running
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1090[07:51:48] <strength> you might risk being banned by your
provider..
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1091[07:52:04] <Shmam> its on a local network
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1094[07:52:15] <Shmam> I should be fine right?
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1095[07:52:23] <strength> pfft, then if you have physical
access...
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1097[07:52:50] <Shmam> RIP ehite raven
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1099[07:53:19] <strength> 3 days and still no vpn :[
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1100[07:53:33] <Shmam> ?
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1101[07:53:43] <strength> cant get openvpn running
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1102[07:53:54] <Shmam> oo I had problems with it too
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1105[07:55:10] <Shmam> brute force boiii get hyped
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1106[07:55:14] <strength> what was your issue?
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1107[07:55:25] <Shmam> forgot debian user/password
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1108[07:55:29] <strength> hahaha
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1109[07:55:38] <Shmam> on an old rpi
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1110[07:55:56] <Shmam> make: cc: command not found
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1111[07:55:59] <Shmam> any ideas?
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1112[07:56:32] <strength> nope, i suck at computers
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1113[07:56:59] <Shmam> ooo shiz, missing the C compiler lol
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1115[07:57:45] <Shmam> the Ubuntu Windows subsystem is so cool
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1116[07:57:50] <Shmam> I love it so much
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1118[07:58:01] <timothywcrane> is cname just a subdomain record.
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1119[07:58:25] <strength> timothywcrane: what is the tutorial
you're using?
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1120[07:58:48] <timothywcrane>
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1121[07:58:58] <strength> cname i thought was for prefixes to
your domain... mail.dudes.org for examp[le
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1124[07:59:25] <timothywcrane> but I have a borked domain setup
from a bought domain... 23 Cname records
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1125[07:59:46] <strength> yeah they're basically domain
links
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1126[07:59:58] <Shmam>
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1127[08:00:13] <Shmam> RIP Gabe :,(
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1129[08:00:27] <Shmam> now im sad
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1130[08:00:32] <timothywcrane> crap like _domainconnect
_domainconnect.gd.domaincontrol.com , obviously GD crud... needed?
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1131[08:00:33] <Shmam> everi tiem I see that one
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1132[08:00:40] * Shmam sigh
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1135[08:02:08] <strength> i donbt know any of the things!!! where
can you learn thjis stuff wiuth out school friends or money?
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1136[08:02:27] <Shmam> just hang out on irc and u learn so much
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1137[08:02:54] <strength> i feel like i never learn anything,
even though i at least got apache started and linux installed
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1138[08:02:59] <Shmam> do you have a computer running linux?
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1139[08:03:05] <strength> vps baby
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1140[08:03:10] <strength> my first server
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1141[08:03:17] <strength> and i stare blankly at her
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1143[08:03:28] <Shmam> vps hosting?
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1144[08:03:31] <strength> although...i did spy some chinese ssh
into her earlier
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1145[08:03:36] <strength> but i banned those motherfuckers
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1146[08:03:42] <strength> yuessir
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1147[08:03:55] <Shmam> ah. cool
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1148[08:04:03] <Shmam> make a website
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1149[08:04:06] <strength> lly, i wish it was here so i could
fucking smash it
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1151[08:04:19] <strength> goddamn openvpn bullshit
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1152[08:04:23] <Shmam> LOL these make messages are so fucking
funny
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1153[08:04:36] <strength> good, they're going ion my website
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1155[08:04:53] <strength> as soon as i get ssh going
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1157[08:05:05] <strength> err openvpn
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1159[08:06:30] <Shmam> i just cant get over how cool the linux
windows subsystem is
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1160[08:06:37] <Shmam> it's gamechanging and nobody is
talking about it
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1161[08:06:39] <timothywcrane> apache2 chat has 5 sleeping people
in it. Anyone know the official apache help channel. Installing a
server, might be more approp.
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1163[08:06:55] <Shmam> what do you need help with?
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1164[08:07:00] <Shmam> apache isn't that hard
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1166[08:08:22] <timothywcrane> # Your system has configured
'manage_etc_hosts' as True.
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1168[08:08:23] <timothywcrane> # As a result, if you wish for
changes to this file to persist
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1169[08:08:23] <timothywcrane> # then you will need to either
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1170[08:08:23] <timothywcrane> # a.) make changes to the master
file in /etc/cloud/templates/hosts.tmpl# b.) change or remove the
value of 'manage_etc_hosts' in# /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg or
cloud-config from user-data
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1171[08:08:55] <timothywcrane> which would cause less probs in
future with multisite ispconfig setup
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1214[08:34:29] <Shmam> Hey. I'm missing math.h. How do I get
it?
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1216[08:35:44] <EriC^^> Shmam: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
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1217[08:36:01] <annadane> you kids and your apt-get
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1219[08:36:25] <EriC^^> isn't it the opposite
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1220[08:36:27] <Shmam> EriC^^: Already installed
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1221[08:36:44] <EriC^^> Shmam: ls -l /usr/include/math.h
doesn't show it?
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1222[08:36:47] <Shmam> 2.23-0ubuntu9 installed
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1223[08:37:06] <Shmam> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18371 Jun 16 15:51
/usr/include/math.h
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1224[08:37:11] <Shmam> that's all i've got
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1226[08:37:13] <mxh-> annadane: Suggesting apt instead?
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1227[08:37:23] <annadane> nah, just a joke
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1228[08:37:37] <annadane> and yeah, it's the opposite if
anything
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1229[08:37:53] <mxh-> I use apt though! It has much more user
friendly output
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1230[08:37:56] <Shmam> does that mean that I need to cp that
math.h here?
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1231[08:38:00] <mxh-> Better search, too
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1235[08:39:04] <Shmam> please help meh
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1236[08:39:13] <Shmam> i need to go to slep
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1237[08:39:31] <EriC^^> Shmam: what's the actual problem?
what program wants math.h?
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1238[08:39:37] <Shmam> hydra
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1241[08:40:00] <Shmam> [ERROR] -x option is not available as
math.h was not found at compile time
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1242[08:40:06] <Shmam> thats the actual error message
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1243[08:40:13] <Shmam> I installed my cmake
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1245[08:40:17] <EriC^^>
replaced-url
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1247[08:40:26] <zophyx> yeah, math.h
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1253[08:40:58] <Shmam> right but my compiler should ship with
math.h so idk why I have this prob
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1255[08:41:05] <Shmam> doesnt make any sense
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1258[08:41:26] <EriC^^> Shmam: why are you compiling it yourself?
isn't there a .deb for it?
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1259[08:41:40] <Shmam> not that I saw
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1261[08:41:44] <Shmam> just followed the readme
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1263[08:42:07] <EriC^^> Shmam: try apt-cache search hydra
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1264[08:42:09] <Shmam> how do I make uninstall?
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1265[08:42:14] <Shmam> they have it in apt
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1266[08:42:16] <mxh-> Look for it in the repos, and if not there
look for a deb! And read the "dont break debian" page,
it's good info :)
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1267[08:42:20] <Shmam> ill try to install it from there
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1268[08:42:28] <EriC^^> Shmam: it seems to be in the repos
already
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1272[08:42:36] <Shmam> it is
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1273[08:42:49] <jeffmr> mxh-, where is the don't break
debian page?
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1274[08:42:52] <Shmam> how do I remove the one i compiled and
`make install`ed
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1276[08:43:13] <EriC^^> Shmam: if it never compiled it
shouldn't have installed anything anywhere, i think
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1277[08:43:21] <mxh-> jeffmr:
replaced-url
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1278[08:43:24] <Shmam> the hydra command works tho
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1280[08:43:47] <Shmam> $ sudo make uninstall : make: *** No rule
to make target 'uninstall'. Stop.
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1281[08:43:49] <EriC^^> Shmam: try sudo make uninstall
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1283[08:44:19] <EriC^^> Shmam: try "sudo updatedb" then
"locate hydra"
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1284[08:44:36] <EriC^^> to get an idea if it's installed and
where
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1286[08:45:32] <Shmam> does sudo updatedb usually take this long?
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1288[08:45:39] <EriC^^> yeah
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1289[08:45:42] <Shmam> k
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1292[08:47:12] <mxh-> really? $ time sudo updatedb => real
0m0.117s
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1293[08:47:20] <Shmam> still going
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1294[08:47:20] <mxh-> 500 gb ssd
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1296[08:47:40] <Shmam> I'm running on a 512GB M.2 Intel 600p
ssd sooo
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1297[08:47:47] <Shmam> something might be wrong
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1298[08:47:49] <mxh-> maybe first time it takes a while?
don't know tbh
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1300[08:48:30] <Shmam> why does my last bios time say 2953.1 sec
lol
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1301[08:48:56] <EriC^^> last bios time?
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1304[08:49:03] <Shmam> wondoes
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1305[08:49:15] <Shmam> using the linux ubuntu subsystem
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1306[08:49:18] <Shmam> which is super cool btw
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1308[08:49:41] <Shmam> taking so long
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1310[08:49:42] <Shmam> wtf
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1311[08:49:46] <mxh-> i tried that in a VM but it kept
bluescreening on me :P
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1312[08:49:56] <Shmam> really
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1313[08:49:58] <EriC^^> Shmam: ctrl+c it
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1314[08:50:03] <Shmam> so far, no problems
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1315[08:50:04] <mxh-> probably the VM's fault
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1316[08:50:21] <Shmam> EriC^^: Just did and started it again
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1317[08:50:37] <EriC^^> k
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1318[08:50:40] <Shmam> its really handy for sshing into my
servers. Never liked putty
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1320[08:50:48] <Shmam> and I feel right at home
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1324[08:52:37] <Shmam> using 0mb/s of disk in task manager
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1325[08:52:40] <Shmam> think its not working
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1326[08:52:55] <Shmam> lol mist is using more
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1327[08:53:55] <Shmam> nothing from locate hydra but which hydra
puts out "/usr/local/bin/hydra"
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1328[08:54:38] <mxh-> Maybe try it as root (do $ sudo su) and try
it. Sounds stupid but
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1330[08:54:58] <mxh-> Or did you get it to work
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1331[08:55:12] <Shmam> I got "which hydra"
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1332[08:55:20] <Shmam> what does locate do differently?
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1335[08:55:39] <mxh-> finds any file/folder path containing the
pattern
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1339[08:56:00] <Shmam> well we have that one
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1340[08:56:02] <Shmam> weedooo
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1345[08:57:48] <mxh-> so you can do like $ locate --regex
"^.*/math.h$" to find any and all versions of that file
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1346[08:57:55] <jeffmr> doesn't he need mlocate to update
the database?
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1347[08:58:06] <mxh-> yeah but he has mlocate if updatedb exists
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1348[08:58:09] <mxh-> i think
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1349[08:58:23] <jeffmr> It wasn't installed by default on my
system.
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1353[08:58:46] <mxh-> Same but he is on the windows/ubuntu
subsystem
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1355[08:58:59] <jeffmr> Oh.
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1356[08:59:10] <Shmam> eek
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1359[08:59:33] <EriC^^> can't he use the makefile's
install to see where it puts all the files?
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replaced-url
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1366[09:00:24] <mxh-> Shmam: So you installed hydra from the
repos, what's the issue now?
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1368[09:00:55] <Shmam> [ERROR] Compiled without LIBSSH v0.4.x
support, module is not available!
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1372[09:01:23] <Shmam> I downloaded made and compiled libssh as
well as installing it with apt and neither worked
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1377[09:02:23] <mxh-> welp, just tried installing it from the
debian repos and it works just fine
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1378[09:02:32] <mxh-> it's a windowsbuntu thing
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1379[09:03:00] <Shmam> well I guess this piece of junk is only
good for ssh lol
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1381[09:03:12] <Shmam> installed via apt?
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1382[09:03:18] <Shmam> ill just use my ubuntu server
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1383[09:03:24] <mxh-> yeah just sudo apt install hydra
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1384[09:03:32] <mxh-> yeah that's probably the easier option
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1386[09:03:56] <Shmam> here we go
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1388[09:04:04] <mxh-> i'm on sid though, worth mentioning
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1390[09:04:09] <Shmam> works lol
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1391[09:04:13] <mxh-> :3
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1394[09:04:33] <mxh-> always good to have a little vps if you get
stuck on windows
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1395[09:04:37] <mxh-> i do myself :D
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1396[09:04:40] <Shmam>
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1402[09:05:58] <Shmam> pls find it in this century hydra
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1403[09:06:01] <Shmam> i need my password
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1410[09:06:38] <mxh-> does it really work well?
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1412[09:07:00] <Shmam> donno, still running
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1413[09:07:04] <Shmam> work faster
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1414[09:07:05] <Shmam> lol
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1415[09:07:24] <mxh-> Shmam: can i PM you?
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1416[09:07:29] <mxh-> Got a question
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1417[09:07:30] <Shmam> yea sure
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1436[09:12:58] <freiform> Hi, I want to access /dev/rfcomm0
programmatically, unfortunately blueman has a pointer on the device
and I cannot access is as regular user (I am a member of the dialout
group to which the device belongs). Any ideas short of removeing
blueman?
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1437[09:13:07] <AliasSpider> yes
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1466[09:27:14] <dunatotatos> Hi! I'm trying to run a binary
~1 million times with different arguments. I used xargs, but most of
the CPU time is consumed by the system instead of the user, probably
to create and destroy the processes. Any idea to improve that? Like
using the same processes pool to run the same binary with different
arguments? How?
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1473[09:29:48] <jim> xargs seems like a good way to do it... but
I'm curious, what inspired you to run it with different
parameters like that?
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1480[09:31:35] <dunatotatos> Just bioinformatics stuff. I have
~1700 files of drug structure, and want to create a matrix of
similarity on a specific way using an external binary that I cannot
modify. This binary takes two arguments: the two files containing
the structures of the two drugs we want to compare.
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1482[09:32:52] <dunatotatos> The xargs way works, but is terribly
slow. I run it on 46 cores, and it still takes more than 15 hours,
with more than 14 used by sys.
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1483[09:33:00] <jim> so you're looking at running it 1700^2
times?
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1484[09:33:26] <trewas> dunatotatos: there is always some cost
when starting a process that shows up as system time, and if the
process itself does not take long then system time will dominate
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1485[09:33:37] <dunatotatos> (1700^2)/2 because the matrix is
symmetric
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1486[09:34:04] <jim> on its diagonal?
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1487[09:34:33] <dunatotatos> trewas: of course. And it is exactly
why I think another option could be possible. Like using the same
process to run the same binary with another argument.
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1488[09:34:36] <dunatotatos> jim: yes
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1492[09:35:23] <trewas> dunatotatos: that would require changing
the binary
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1493[09:35:23] <jim> so, it's generally true that
thisMatrix[a,b] == thisMatrix[b,a]
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1495[09:35:35] <dunatotatos> jim: yes
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1496[09:36:13] <dunatotatos> trewas: I was afraid of not finding
another solution... I do not have access to the binary source code.
It means I have to re-write it all by myself.
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1500[09:37:02] <jim> I -guess- you could replace the xargs and
looping you're doing now with the equiv in C
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1503[09:37:56] <jim> or you could try in python or something like
that
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1504[09:38:20] <dunatotatos> jim: Isn't running an external
binary from a C code forking the current process? If yes, I do not
see any advantage.
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1506[09:38:42] <dunatotatos> And I tried in Python with the
subprocess module, it was 10 times worse ^^
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1507[09:38:49] <jim> you want to improve which, speed?
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1510[09:39:28] <dunatotatos> Yes, and especially reduce the sys
CPU charge.
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1513[09:41:10] <jim> hmm... you know the algorithm it's
using?
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1515[09:41:48] <jim> also, how many times is this whole thing to
be run?
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1518[09:41:54] <dunatotatos> Not in details. But the speed of the
binary is really not an issue. It is much faster than the task of
creating/destroying the processus which ran the binary.
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1520[09:42:30] <dunatotatos> The whole application will have to
be running only a few times. Like max 10, maybe. But on much larger
datasets.
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1521[09:43:04] <n4n0`> what are you rewriting anywho?
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1522[09:43:16] <n4n0`> why are we recreating the wheel :)
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1523[09:43:20] <jim> so you'd be looking at a single run of
several days
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1524[09:43:26] <preaction> did you run a profiler to see where
exactly the performance problem was?
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1525[09:43:57] <dunatotatos> jim: yes, but it is really not
optimal, especially when I know where is the problem.
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1526[09:44:30] <dunatotatos> n4n0: In my knowledge, nothing
already does what I'm writing.
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1528[09:44:59] <dunatotatos> preaction: Do you consider `time` to
be a profiler?
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1529[09:45:08] <[k00l]shamoanjac> lol no
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1530[09:45:09] <preaction> no, that's not a profiler
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1531[09:45:11] <dunatotatos> JK, the answer is no ^^
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1532[09:45:23] <preaction> alright, glad i'm going to bed
then
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1560[09:55:40] <AliasSpider> send to áï
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1586[10:02:22] <AliasSpider> ç„ą
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1587[10:02:26] <dunatotatos> I ran `perf`. I'm discovering
this tool, and I'm really not sure about the interpretation of
the output. However, it looks like most of the time is consumed by
sh [kernel.kallsyms], symbol [k] filemap_map_pages and [k]
unmap_page_range
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1603[10:08:48] <mum0l> Hi guys! I am going to learn icinga and
grafana with influxdb (or maybe some more lightwave db). Now, I need
to buy a VPS for that, and I am wondering if 1vcore 1GRAM machine
will be enought for that? The purpose will be to monitor only 1
remote host + host itself. If anyone did it, could let me know if
this kind of VPS will be enought to handle this stuff? Your feedback
will be kindly appreciated! ;)
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1604[10:08:51] <AliasSpider> ;)
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1606[10:09:03] <AliasSpider> ?
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1614[10:14:27] <AliasSpider> 毷
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1640[10:30:44] <AliasSpider> )
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1642[10:30:48] <AliasSpider> ë
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1643[10:31:29] <annadane> !zh
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1645[10:31:35] <annadane> AliasSpider, ^
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1646[10:31:48] <AliasSpider> î«
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1650[10:33:21] <cq1> Hey folks. I'm currently in the
following state: I have drive A with no Full Disk Encryption and a
bunch of my files on it, and brand new drive B not even formatted
yet. I want to transition to: Brand new Debian on drive A with FDE
and my files on it, and drive B with FDE for additional storage.
What's the best path from here to there?
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1651[10:34:13] <annadane> cq1, so you don't have encryption
on disk a and want to transfer to disk b will encryption? so you
want to encrypt drive a first?
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1652[10:34:21] <annadane> s/will/with
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1653[10:34:24] <AliasSpider> ëŽ
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1655[10:34:30] <AliasSpider> âŸ
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1656[10:34:37] <annadane> AliasSpider, this channel is in english
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1657[10:34:57] <AliasSpider> 篩
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1660[10:36:28] <cq1> annadane: I guess so. I'm worried that
there will be some difference between: (1) setting up FDE on drive B
and copying my files over and (2) installing fresh debian and
telling it to use FDE on both drives.
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1663[10:36:39] <cq1> For example, I want both to mount
automatically at boot time with a single entered password.
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1665[10:36:46] <cq1> Like I'm used to with FDE.
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1669[10:39:05] <AliasSpider> Ç
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1684[10:46:12] <AliasSpider> á©
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1685[10:46:18] <annadane> !ops AliasSpider
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1686[10:46:18] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall:
annadane complains about a problem (see above)
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1699[10:52:24] <petn-randall> cq1: The safest bet is to do a
fresh install with FDE, then just migrate your home dir over.
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1702[10:52:56] <petn-randall> cq1: Other methods will surely
work, too, but will take some trial and error to find the working
setup.
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1703[10:53:27] <cq1> petn-randall: Okay, sounds good. Will a
fresh install give me the option to set up FDE on both drives?
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1704[10:54:11] <petn-randall> cq1: Are both drives the same size?
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1705[10:55:00] <cq1> petn-randall: Nope, one is 250 GB, the other
is 2 TB, and I only want to boot off of and put anything on the
smaller SSD. I merely want the larger one as ext4 with FDE that I
can manually put things on.
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1707[10:55:18] <cq1> It would just be really nice if all the FDE
were automagically handled for me and the same password enabled
both.
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1708[10:55:25] <cq1> Like, at start up, only having to be entered
once.
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1710[10:55:44] <petn-randall> cq1: AFAIR your first typed
password for LUKS will be used for the others, too.
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1712[10:56:16] <petn-randall> cq1: If that isn't the case,
you can still store the credentials in your /etc/fstab so you
don't have to type it.
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1714[10:56:27] <petn-randall> Sorry, /etc/crypttab.
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1716[10:56:44] <cq1> petn-randall: Oh, clever. Because that
config file is inside the first encrypted setup, so I guess
that's safe.
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1718[10:57:10] <cq1> petn-randall: Perfect. I should probably
just do that. Is there some conceivable way I could do this without
a third drive on which to stage my files I'd like to copy over?
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1719[10:58:03] <cq1> Like, if I could just setup FDE on my second
drive, and then do a fresh install on the first, but after the
install configure it to appropriately mount the second drive that
would save me having to find a staging area for my files.
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1723[10:59:48] <petn-randall> cq1: I'd do the following:
Back up all your data to the 2nd drive. Do a clean reinstall on the
first one with FDE. Then copy your data back. Then your can create a
LUKS on the 2nd drive, and add it to /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab on
your system.
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1724[11:00:20] <cq1> petn-randall: Great, sounds like a plan.
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1725[11:00:45] <cq1> Is setting up LUKS like that easy? I've
only ever done it either A: on a flat file, or B: just using the
automagical defaults in the Debian installer.
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1726[11:00:47] <petn-randall> cq1: Unless you have another backup
drive, in that case you could setup both drives at once.
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1727[11:00:56] <cq1> I do not have another backup drive.
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1728[11:01:00] <cq1> I think your plan is excellent.
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1729[11:01:36] <petn-randall> cq1: I see. Yes, setting up LUKS is
pretty straight-forward. Don't let the many config options
confuse you, just stick with the (sane) defaults.
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1730[11:02:20] <cq1> petn-randall: Okay. I might come back here
under brand-new Debian seeking additional help.
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1731[11:02:21] <cq1> Thanks.
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1749[11:16:08] <petn-randall> cq1: Sure, do that. We're here
to help!
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1754[11:19:00] <cq1> petn-randall: Okay, wait. So, my new added
hard drive is 8x bigger than my boot SSD. I'm tempted to do the
following: Set up LUKS right now, and copy essentially everything
off my nearly-full SSD into it.
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1756[11:19:09] <cq1> Then, install fresh debian on my SSD, and
only copy the things I want back.
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1757[11:19:32] <cq1> But still have everything on the hard drive,
in case I randomly am like "oh, crap, how did I configure that
random file in /etc"
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1758[11:19:59] <cq1> So, my question is: Is there any reason why
I should set up LUKS *after* the fresh install?
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1759[11:20:08] <cq1> Like, will I have to worry about a newer
version of LUKS not being compatible, or something?
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1760[11:20:35] <cq1> Because what I'm describing is very
appealing to me, so I don't have to think hard about what I
copy over. I just make nearly a full disk image into my spacious 2
TB hard drive.
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1764[11:23:18] <petn-randall> cq1: Yes, you can also do it that
way. Just make sure to copy the system over to the large HDD from a
boot live system, otherwise you won't get a consistent copy of
the system.
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1766[11:24:08] <cq1> petn-randall: Sounds like a plan.
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1772[11:30:12] <cq1> petn-randall: Do you have a good source on
setting up LUKS? I'm unsure if I should be wiping the drive
with /dev/urandom first to obscure access patterns, or if it'll
offer to do that for me, or what...
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1775[11:30:33] <cq1> Also, it looks like cryptsetup takes a ton
of crypto primitive options
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1779[11:31:17] <cq1> And I honestly have no criteria upon which
to evaluate "aes-xts-plain64" vs "aes-cbc-essiv"
and the like.
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1780[11:31:22] <petn-randall> cq1: Yes, I'd ignore those and
go with the defaults.
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1783[11:33:17] <plasmoduck> How can I install Debian with default
Wayland Gnome3?
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1785[11:34:18] <petn-randall> cq1: The defaults are sane, well
tested, and known to work. The others are less tested, there was
even a bug in one of the lesser-known ciphers that caused data loss.
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1787[11:34:55] <petn-randall> !weston
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1788[11:34:55] <dpkg> Weston is the reference implementation of a
<wayland> compositor (display server), developed by the
Wayland project. Available since Debian 8 "Jessie"
although very much a work-in-progress.
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1791[11:35:11] <petn-randall> plasmoduck: ^^^ I don't think
it's in a useable state in stretch.
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1794[11:37:36] <plasmoduck> Okay, reason I ask is because I see
this new Purism "PureOS" based on Debian which is using
Wayland out-of-the-box and seems to work fine -
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1795[11:37:57] <stoned> Wyland is what?
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1797[11:38:21] <stoned> Oh a new x servedr
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1799[11:38:29] <plasmoduck> stoned: the replacement for x11/xorg
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1802[11:38:53] <plasmoduck> Cutting-edge technology: It includes
GNOME 3 and the next-generation Wayland display protocol, out of the
box. Thanks to this forward-thinking graphics subsystem, you can now
enjoy fluid high-framerate videos without tearing, benefit from
enhanced security through isolation between graphical software
applications, frame-perfect hardware-accelerated animations and UI
components rendering, and better power management.
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1805[11:39:15] <stoned> Oh, that's nice
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1807[11:40:00] <stoned> Xorg is pretty old.
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1808[11:40:05] <cq1> petn-randall: Sorry for asking so many
questions, but I've been Googling and after reading the Arch
wiki it's now a bit more confusing. It seems I can choose
between "LVM on LUKS", "LUKS on LVM",
"plain dm-crypt", and possibly some more options I
don't know how to evaluate.
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1809[11:40:49] <cq1> I want literally the most default thing
ever. I ran cfdisk and made a single big partition and mkfs.ext4ed
the /dev/sdb1 partition. I want the simplest possible thing that
blows away /dev/sdb1 and lets me mkfs.ext4 again inside of the
encryption.
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1813[11:41:14] <cq1> (Or, basically, whatever corresponds to the
default thing that Debian would set up for me.)
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1817[11:44:10] <maxzor> plasmoduck, has debian stretch ditched
x11/xorg? (and do you really type this fast oO :) )
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1822[11:46:32] <petn-randall> cq1: "cryptsetup luksFormat
/dev/sdb1" will create a LUKS-encrypted disk for you. You might
want to overwrite the partition with random data, first, though.
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1824[11:47:53] <petn-randall> cq1: Simplest way to overwrite it
with random data is to luksformat it, then just overwrite the inside
partition with zeroes (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/XXX bs=1M).
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1826[11:48:22] <petn-randall> cq1: After that you just format is
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1828[11:48:53] <cq1> petn-randall: Awesome, thanks.
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1830[11:49:57] <petn-randall> cq1: Regarding the options your
found: "plain dm-crypt" is the same as LUKS, but just
doesn't contain a LUKS header. So it's impossible to know
if or how the partition is encrypted. In the theoretical scenario
where someone apprehends the system you have a somewhat plausible
deniability in that you could say it's just random data.
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1831[11:50:05] <plasmoduck> maxzor: Debian stretch has not yet
ditched x11/xorg and will not for a long time, even when Wayland is
fully implemented, Debian will keep x11/xorg for backwards
compatibility as such. As to your other question, I do fancy myself
a 'how do you say?' "keyboard cowboy" ;-)
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1832[11:50:24] <petn-randall> cq1: The downside is that you have
to memorize all the config options to open it, and if you miss any
of them, you'll just get jibberish.
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1835[11:51:10] <cq1> petn-randall: Sounds pretty marginal for my
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with LUKS, but often used together. It's an abstraction that
allows you to freely partition the free space in the LUKS container.
"LUKS on LVM" is a very weird use case, I don't think
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1846[11:55:24] <cq1> petn-randall: I did cryptsetup, but I have
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cryptsetup stuff works is that the block device is exposed with a
new name, and transparently performs encryption, so I presumably
have to mkfs.ext4 this new /dev/mapper/XXX block device, and
it'll make a filesystem appropriately inside of the encryption?
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1849[11:57:35] <cq1> petn-randall: Oh, it looks like I need a
cryptsetup open afterwards.
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1860[12:01:48] <cq1> Alright, looks like it should finish filling
with random data in about 5 hours.
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1862[12:03:05] <kai_w> can I use the nvidia-driver over remote
X11? glxinfo gives me 'GeForce GTX...' as the renderer
when run locally, but 'llvmpipe' when run via 'ssh
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1868[12:07:29] <kai_w> maybe there is a bug with llvmpipe - I
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1888[12:21:26] <kai_w> has anybody run MATLAB remotely with X
forwarding recently? opening it and typing exit just hangs, rather
than quitting. simple operations (e.g. 1+1) at the prompt work.
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1890[12:21:44] <kai_w> setting software opengl works around it,
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1894[12:23:31] <freiform> kai_w: are you running testing?
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1895[12:24:01] <petn-randall> cq1: Sorry, was afk for bit. Yes,
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1896[12:24:35] <kai_w> freiform: yes
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1897[12:25:07] <kai_w> on both the local and remote
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randering mode locally with an AMD GPU doesn't work for me in
testing. stable runs fine, though. But as I said, i am running it
locally.
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1922[12:35:46] <colo-work> Rembo, for Linux "software"
RAID, aka md? there's `mdadm --monitor` for that.
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1928[12:39:57] <freiform> kai_w: ok, nevermind then.
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i7z tool says 1.10-1.18V
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1975[13:08:09] <JyZyXEL> yeah
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1976[13:08:12] <CuteMeOwnThroat> I think first thing is to make
sure that it's the fully correct chipset…
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2035[13:40:57] <FinalX> where do I see the changelog for a
package? specifically tomcat7 on wheezy?
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2037[13:41:21] <FinalX> and more precisely, between
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7.0.28-4+deb7u15) and 7.0.28-4+deb7u17 ?
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2039[13:41:44] <FinalX> I wonder if 7.0.28-4+deb7u17 fixed what
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2046[13:44:04] <n4dir> there is the package changelog
(apt-changelog?), but i wouldn't know if you can use it to see
the changelog of a given package (but would guess so)
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2049[13:44:31] <n4dir> ah, wheezy .... urgh
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2052[13:44:43] <FinalX> yeah.... just as urgh as running
jvm's tbh
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2053[13:44:51] <FinalX> but vendor is lax.
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2074[13:55:32] <FinalX> ha, there we go.
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2076[13:56:48] <FinalX> n4dir: "Fix regression introduced by
patch for CVE-2017-12617 (Closes: #881162)" .. and that's
throwing 404's .. exactly what we had.
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2077[13:56:49] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2078[13:56:55] <FinalX> so, excellent :)
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2079[13:57:20] <jelly-home> at least your tomcats get patched
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2085[13:58:45] <tw> struts/equifax joke?
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2087[13:59:38] <FinalX> well, it got patched so good that
everything gave a 404, no matter what you asked it for :)
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2106[14:07:45] <CuteMeOwnThroat> FinalX, sounds pretty secure
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2117[14:13:16] <archiebald> hello chan ... hope everyone's
alright I am a new debian/linux user and I have a bit of a dumb
question ... would anyone be so kind as so to lend me 2 minutes of
their time to answer it ? thanks a lot, it's regarding the
update of a software installed from tarball
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2121[14:16:37] <RoyK> !ask
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2122[14:16:38] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2123[14:17:40] <abrotman> archiebald: just ask
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2127[14:19:44] <hellyeah> my system is frozen
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2128[14:19:55] <archiebald> muhahaha, awesome ... cool
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2129[14:19:57] <archiebald> ok so here it is... debian stretch,
installed firefox 57beta from tarball into /opt/ folder, used it for
a while, changed lots of settings, installed add-ons ... now the
stable version is out, I want to install it. will I lose everything
(bookmarks, settings, addons) if I install it the same way or do I
have to back some stuff up, install it, then copy the stuff I backed
up back in the new installed folder?
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2132[14:20:43] <RoyK> archiebald: the settings are stored in your
home directory, not under /opt
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2134[14:20:58] <RoyK> archiebald: so you shouldn't worry
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2135[14:21:16] <RoyK> archiebald: as for addons, I'm not
sure
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2136[14:21:29] <RoyK> archiebald: but I guess firefox sync should
be able to handle that
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2137[14:21:45] <archiebald> so when I first installed, I copied
the tarball into opt and tarballed it, do you mean it installed
setting files into the home directory, am I undestanding this
correctly?
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2142[14:22:07] <archiebald> RoyK, yeah about the addons, you make
sense
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2143[14:22:34] <RoyK> archiebald: firefox itself makes config
files under $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/
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2145[14:22:48] <tw> Is there a program that takes midi events and
generates waveforms (saw, square, ramp) with parametric waveform
filters? Looking for realtime with an external controller. Closest
I've found is fluidsynth but that doesn't let you modify
the generator easily.
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2146[14:22:51] <RoyK> normally users can't write to /opt
anyway
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2155[14:26:41] <archiebald> RoyK, from what I read online,
it's the procedure that was advised, copy tar.xz into /opt,
tarball the thing, make a link, shabang, Bob's your uncle,
it's installed
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2156[14:27:05] <archiebald> RoyK, but thanks for the info mate,
appreciated
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2160[14:27:28] <archiebald> it's a whole new world, still
plenty to learn :-)
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2162[14:28:02] <RoyK> archiebald: we all start at a point - from
then on, it's only the thing to learn more :)
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2164[14:28:27] <RoyK> and beleive me, you never learn it all -
the more you learn, the more you understand you don't really
know
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2176[14:32:47] <archiebald> RoyK, indeed, can't agree more,
and it's true with most things :-)
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2177[14:33:54] <archiebald> RoyK, would you, to be safe, copy the
current firefox folder, as backup?
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2178[14:34:19] <RoyK> won't hurt
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2179[14:34:31] <RoyK> cp -a dir newdir
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2225[15:02:17] <CuteMeOwnThroat> oh, urgh. copy and paste stops
working in xpra after a time… and I guess I just found why:
2017-11-14 15:18:15,164 clipboard toggled to off by the server,
reason given:2017-11-14 15:18:15,164 more than 20 clipboard requests
per second!
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2231[15:03:15] <CuteMeOwnThroat> why'd that happen
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2249[15:08:16] <archiebald> RoyK, after invsetigating, all
extensions, ... are stored in the home folder, the update changed
nothing from the personalisation of the software], thanks for the
help
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2266[15:17:39] <g0zzy> I've got c 500GB free on a second
disk with Win10 on it ( shot:
replaced-url
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2269[15:18:51] <ksk> hola. Is there documentation about
mysql/mariadb-server on debian? I remember apt asking me for a
root-password on older releases, that seems to be handled different
now? Just want to make sure my installation is secured so far.
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2272[15:19:32] <ksk> apt asked what password to set for mysq-root
in older debian releases I mean.
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2273[15:20:01] <petn-randall> g0zzy: You could shrink the
partition and filesystem, and create a swap partition after the
Windows partition. I wouldn't consider putting a swap file on
the windows partition safe.
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2275[15:21:07] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Are those 500 GB
unpartitioned?
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2276[15:21:54] <ksk> g0zzy: I would think windows has a built-in
"make this partition smaller, add another partition" tool?
OSX has that - I would try using that if you need to rezise.
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2277[15:21:58] <g0zzy> Well it's free space. There are 3
primaries otherwise
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2278[15:22:40] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Then it's pretty easy.
Just create a partition with 10 GB in size, format it with mkswap,
then add it to your /etc/fstab to be used on every boot.
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2279[15:22:43] <ksk> like, you have a device "D:" and
500G "free" or is it "unallocated" in the
windows harddrive manager (whatever that was called again..)
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2280[15:22:47] <g0zzy> petn-randall: So, that's a yes ;)
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2281[15:23:19] <g0zzy> But what about the primary/logical issue?
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2285[15:25:28] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Is that a MSDOS partition
table?
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2286[15:26:05] <g0zzy> Yes i think so. It certainly doesn't
look like a GPT
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2288[15:26:30] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Then just created a extended
partition. I'd simply do it with gparted.
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2289[15:26:49] <g0zzy> I'm actually looking at it at the mo
with the stretch installer
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2297[15:29:41] <petn-randall> g0zzy: I guess there's a
similar option. Haven't used the installer in a while.
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2303[15:31:24] <g0zzy> I think i need to change it to logical by
deleting it first then recreating with the installer.
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2305[15:31:47] * g0zzy always get nervous about this kind of thing in
case Windows throws a fit later
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2306[15:32:31] <petn-randall> g0zzy: You could install Windows 10
without GPT?? Or is that an upgrade from an earlier version?
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2308[15:33:29] <g0zzy> I think it is an upgrade, yes. The box was
sold as having Win 8 but i find Win 10 on it
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2310[15:34:12] <RoyK> sounds like a debian problem (;
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2315[15:35:42] <g0zzy> OK. I've now got a c 500GB logical
partition. I can seem to get the installer to create a partition
_inside_ that ...
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2347[15:46:54] <Riku> how do I set a package to never try and
update? I installed it from a modified .deb specifically to avoid
compatibility issues with dependencies in the repos and it's
trying to update from repos and install said dependencies
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2349[15:47:49] <DaveG_> I've installed the
openjdk-8-jre-zero, and want to use 'java -zero', the
alternative VM, as default. Where do I set that as a default option?
Adding "-zero" to JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS or _JAVA_OPTIONS
doesn't seem to work.
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2350[15:47:54] <DaveG_> "-shark ALIASED_TO -zero" to
'/etc/java-8-openjdk/jvm-armhf.cfg' doesn't either.
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2351[15:48:14] <DaveG_> THat's all I've found so far as
'possibles' -- though obviously not correct.
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2352[15:48:30] <CuteMeOwnThroat> Riku, the recommended way is to
increase the patchlevel of the version number when you make a custom
package… it will get updated, but only if a newer version is
in the archives (i.e. on security updates)
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2353[15:49:09] <Riku> it's not from the standard repos so
I'm worried about security updates to it
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2354[15:49:15] <jelly-home> DaveG_: which debian release and
architecture is that, armhf?
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2356[15:49:28] <jelly-home> ,v openjdk-8-jre-zero --arch armhf
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2357[15:49:29] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre-zero on armhf --
stretch-proposed-updates: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; stretch-security:
8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; buster: 8u151-b12-1; sid: 8u151-b12-1
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2361[15:49:52] <CuteMeOwnThroat> it wouldn't try to update
from the repos if it wasn't in them…
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2362[15:49:54] <Riku> *not worried
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2363[15:50:06] <Riku> I guess I could just remove the repo
it's from
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2367[15:50:54] <jelly-home> dpkg, tell Riku about hold
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2368[15:51:00] <DaveG_> jelly-home: stretch, armhf
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2369[15:51:23] <DaveG_> manually using 'java -zero' is
doing what I want. Just want to know where to set the default.
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2372[15:52:09] <jonathan_x> Trying to do something in initramfs
but not sure script is getting executed.
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2373[15:52:09] <Riku> just commenting out the third party repo
works for me
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2374[15:52:24] <Riku> it's the only package in that entire
repo anyway
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2375[15:52:25] <jonathan_x> Should local-bottom scripts have
rootfs available?
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2377[15:52:38] <jonathan_x> I thought I gleaned it would be
either /root or $rootmnt
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2379[15:53:05] <CuteMeOwnThroat> it's still good practice to
change the version in the last bit… to something showing that
it was modified and possibly who modified it
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2382[15:53:37] <Riku> probably yeah
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2386[15:53:45] <Riku> I'm the only one using it so I
can't be bothered though
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2388[15:54:18] <CuteMeOwnThroat> well… I'd bet a
coffe that your future self a year from now might see that
differently ^^
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2389[15:54:28] <CuteMeOwnThroat> or maybe two years from now
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2391[15:54:42] <Riku> not planning to update the package
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2393[15:54:52] <Riku> if anything I will be replacing it with an
older version
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2457[16:31:18] <ksk> mariadb innodb file is named
"aria_log.00000001" - known bug? :D
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2461[16:32:07] <petn-randall> ksk: What makes that a bug?
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no, it's not a typo:
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2507[16:55:04] <g0zzy> Hmm that didn't go well. I opted to
install grub on the mbr of the SSD (the other disk in the box is
spinning rust with Win10) and made the disk bootable and it fell
over on boot. Grub rescue prompt
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2511[16:56:08] <g0zzy> The installer will rescue a previous
installation? I've never done that before
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2516[16:57:32] <g0zzy> Ooh hang on. I missed the step of
installing software - but that's OK isn't it - it will
have the base system to boot it?
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2519[16:58:01] <Megaf> g0zzy, likely, if you installed the
bootloader
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2522[16:58:39] <g0zzy> I did that explicitly, since i have two
disks. It seemed to want to install it on the Win disk, which i
didn't want
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2528[17:00:21] <g0zzy> Megaf: will the installer do a rescue
then?
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2541[17:05:41] <Megaf> g0zzy, you choose when you want to install
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2543[17:05:54] <Megaf> and you can always unplug the disk if you
dont want to touch it
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2552[17:08:34] <ksk> petn-randall: did not know, thanks!
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2559[17:10:39] <salt_irl> fedora
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2565[17:14:28] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: grub can hand the boot off
to the windows bootloader, so installing on the Windows disk
isn't a big deal.
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2569[17:15:08] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: One thing that can cause
problems is if the install medium being removed causes the disks to
be labeled in a different order. (That's why you use UUID)
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2575[17:17:32] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: Actually i DID give the
partition a label
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2583[17:19:45] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: But surely installing in the
same MBR as Windows is a no-no?
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2588[17:22:14] <fakefur> hi guys
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2590[17:22:27] <fakefur> anybody know how to get nautilus to show
jpg thumbnails?
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2593[17:23:46] <fakefur> i get pdf thumbnails
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2594[17:23:51] <fakefur> and video file thumbnails
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2595[17:23:57] <fakefur> but nada for actual images
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2597[17:24:02] <fakefur> *sigh*
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2600[17:24:16] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: Nope. grub or lilo will boot
a windows install, but the Windows bootloader won't boot Linux.
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2601[17:24:33] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: This has been true since the
very early days.
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2607[17:25:12] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: On modern systems, grub will
automatically detect other bootable installations and auto-configure
them.
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2609[17:25:42] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: You may need to run
update-grub after the initial boot to make this work, I suspect this
is an intentional feature.
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2612[17:26:12] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: There is an
"os-prober" grub module that scans the system.
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2613[17:26:47] <peterandre> is debian stretch DKMS-enabled by
default ?
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2616[17:27:46] <petn-randall> peterandre: If you question is if
dkms can be installed, yes.
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2617[17:28:08] <peterandre> ok, yes i should have asked that
instead ;)
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2619[17:28:30] <ivan> fakefur: are your images over 10MB?
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2621[17:29:02] <ivan> fakefur: or on a network drive of some
sort?
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2623[17:30:06] <ivan> you can change some things in dconf to get
more thumbnails
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2625[17:30:22] <ivan> unfortunately I found that in some big
folders nautilus thumbnail generation broke and so I switched to
dolphin
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2629[17:31:34] <peterandre> apt-get install dkms :) got it
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2633[17:32:19] <fakefur> ivan, no not even close
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2635[17:32:48] <fakefur> brb
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2636[17:32:52] <ivan> any useful errors when running nautilus
from a terminal?
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2637[17:33:15] <tw> Speaking of booting, is there a debian way to
deploy kernels as UEFI binaries to the UEFI partition?
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2638[17:33:15] <fakefur> ivan, will check that
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2640[17:33:20] <fakefur> thanks
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2642[17:34:27] <g0zzy> petn-randall: tbh i was quite surprised.
The installer noticed Windows was on there (despite being on another
disk) and gave me the option to install explicitly. I chose the SSD
with Debian and its MBR for grub. On booting into the new Debian i
get the grub emergency prompt
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2644[17:36:15] <g0zzy> But i should be able to rescue the new
install with the installer should i not?
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2648[17:39:54] <petn-randall> g0zzy: Probably, but hard to say
without knowing what went wrong.
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2654[17:41:59] <g0zzy> I'll give it a go
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2660[17:43:56] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
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2661[17:43:56] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your
Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2),
mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ;
mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ;
mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target),
run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub
&& grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue
mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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2662[17:45:52] <Brigo> jhutchins_wk there is a better way
nowadays. The rescue mode from the installer can do all that.
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2698[18:00:03] <jhutchins_wk> Brigo: It's an alternative if
you don't happen to have the installer handy.
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2702[18:00:35] <jhutchins_wk> Besides which, I don't think
this is a matter of grub not being on the MBR, it sounds like it
can't find the OS>
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2705[18:00:54] <jhutchins_wk> So now we get into using the grub
shell to search for the boot partition.
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2706[18:01:07] <Brigo> funny :)
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2724[18:05:59] <g0zzy> Yea. The installer let me do it from a
shell. Booting now. But even root can't find ifconfig - surely
that app's in the base install!?
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2731[18:07:17] <ambient> Howdy, how to rectify this flaming piece
of dog crap that persists through reboots:
replaced-url
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2741[18:08:24] <LtL> g0zzy: ifconfig is deprecated and is
'likely' not included in a fresh stretch install. A jessie
to stretch upgrade still has ifconfig..
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2742[18:08:46] <n4dir> wasn't ifconfig replaced with ip ?
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2743[18:08:53] <g0zzy> In favour of .. ?
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2744[18:08:55] <LtL> n4dir: yes sir
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2746[18:09:35] <n4dir> :-)
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2748[18:09:58] <tw> I just use busybox ifconfig. It's easier
to remember one syntax.
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2749[18:10:19] <tw> at least for the basics. I don't need
the fancy tunny stuff most of the time.
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2750[18:10:35] <tw> tunnel
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2751[18:10:43] <jelly-home> ,v drbdlinks
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2752[18:10:44] <judd> Package: drbdlinks on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.19-1; buster: 1.22-1; jessie: 1.22-1; sid: 1.22-1; stretch: 1.22-1
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2756[18:11:30] <jelly-home> ambient: do you need that package?
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2759[18:11:55] <ambient> jelly-home, I purged that mofo and I
still get the error
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2760[18:12:34] <ambient> I think it is a systemd thang
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2772[18:16:54] <petn-randall> ambient: You'll get that error
irrelevant of systemd.
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2775[18:17:26] <ambient> It's fun to blame poetering for
everything, didn't you know?
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2776[18:17:32] <petn-randall> ambient: Look at the logs why the
service fails to start or stop.
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2777[18:17:32] <ambient> : - )
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2778[18:17:49] <petn-randall> ambient: That got boring a few
years ago. Go with the time!
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2797[18:22:51] <jhutchins_wk> Possibly a manually deleted file.
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2801[18:23:09] <jhutchins_wk> ambient: Are you on testing?
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2835[18:34:19] <ambient> jhutchins_wk, Yep
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2846[18:37:29] <nullbyte_> how can i see uuid of swap
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2848[18:37:35] <nullbyte_> blkid not shows full
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2853[18:38:54] <petn-randall> nullbyte_: blkid does not what?
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2854[18:39:51] <ambient> Wait, someone PM's me that
installing Gentoo will fix the problem. apt-get install gentoo
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2855[18:39:55] <ambient> okay
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2863[18:41:26] <hiole24> hi, i did not use youtube-dl for a while
and now its not working
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2865[18:41:41] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
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2866[18:41:41] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
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2867[18:41:45] <hiole24> tried to do an upgrade but still the
same problem
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2869[18:42:16] <hiole24> youtube-dl will only work when i want to
download each specific video but i cant download the entire channel
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2870[18:42:29] <hiole24> any idea what should i do ?
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2873[18:43:09] <hiole24> i dont know if its youtube-dl program or
youtube website that tries to prevent people from downloading videos
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2874[18:43:14] <Freddie4555> #List vpn
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2877[18:43:31] <Freddie4555> list vpn
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2878[18:43:41] <petn-randall> Freddie4555: Do you need help?
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2884[18:46:29] <fakefur> can anyone tell me what components are
used in thumbnailing?
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2887[18:46:39] <fakefur> still trying to get this working
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2894[18:47:46] <petn-randall> ,v youtube-dl
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2895[18:47:47] <judd> Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie:
2014.08.05-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2017.05.18.1-1~bpo8+1;
stretch: 2017.05.18.1-1; buster: 2017.11.06-1; sid: 2017.11.06-1;
buster-multimedia: 2017.11.06-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 2017.11.06-dmo1
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2898[18:48:41] <petn-randall> hiole24: You might want to backport
the version from buster on your machine. I'm guessing that
youtube changed their page layout and now the screen scraping part
doesn't work anymore.
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2903[18:49:18] <hiole24> let me see what i can do
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2905[18:49:40] <petn-randall> !ssb
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2906[18:49:40] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2907[18:49:50] <petn-randall> hiole24: The steps are these here.
^^^
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2911[18:50:59] <hiole24> petn-randall its working now
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2914[18:51:17] <hiole24> guy had the same problem
replaced-url
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2918[18:51:45] <hiole24> i would recommend saving this just in
case someone has the same problem
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2919[18:52:04] <hiole24> the important thing is now after getting
the new version of youtube-dl
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2921[18:52:45] <hiole24> the command to download the video should
be youtube-dl <youtube-url> -v
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2923[18:53:22] <hiole24> google always tries to prevent people
from doing anything
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2926[18:54:00] <hiole24> i hope one day we will never have to see
google or any of their products
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2927[18:54:02] <petn-randall> hiole24: I think it's more
like they don't care if some screen scraping tools break, they
only care about users with browsers.
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2928[18:54:04] <hiole24> or services
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2930[18:54:27] <hiole24> petn-randall they only care about profit
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2934[18:55:15] <hiole24> if i dont go to their super shitty
website to watch the video they dont know who that person is and
they cant collect their dox and make money from the advertisers
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2936[18:55:46] <n4dir> dunno. then don't go there?
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2937[18:56:21] <hiole24> yeah i dont, i just download the entire
channel and thats it
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2940[18:56:38] <hiole24> since js is blocked they have no info
anyway
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2948[18:59:14] <g0zzy> More woes :( dbus post install script is
now hanging
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2950[18:59:47] <g0zzy> /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/dbus.postinst
configure
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2955[19:01:15] <g0zzy> Is Debian now not able to cope with ssh
instructions to install packages?
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2959[19:02:20] <greycat> I install and upgrade things on servers
over ssh all the time.
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2966[19:03:03] <g0zzy> That's a relief. In this case
it's task-mate-desktop
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2969[19:03:49] <petn-randall> "now"? That's always
been the case, ever since openssh was added to Debian.
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2970[19:04:00] <jhutchins_wk> hiole24: So if you download a whole
channel, how do you download later updates without downloading
everything?
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2972[19:04:37] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: You're installing a
desktop over ssh?
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2975[19:04:46] <g0zzy> Yes. top shows that effectively
dbus.postinst is dead in the water
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2977[19:05:24] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: Is that too big an ask?
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2978[19:05:25] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: reinstall?
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2981[19:05:50] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: No, it's just
counterintuitive. If your interface is ssh, why would you install a
desktop.
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2982[19:05:53] <greycat> g0zzy: it just doesn't make *sense*
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2983[19:06:15] <greycat> I'm curious what petn-randall meant
though.
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2991[19:07:49] <n4dir> i understood it as a : you could always do
that. Might be, i am overseeing something, but to me it was pretty
clear
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2992[19:07:52] <g0zzy> jhutchins_wk: It's more convenient
than physical access
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2994[19:08:30] <petn-randall> Yes, you could always install
packages via SSH, ever since apt and SSH existed in Debian.
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2998[19:09:57] * g0zzy thinks it's looking so borky he's
going to go over and nuke task-mate-desktop and start again
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3000[19:10:31] <teraflops> you can run debian installer through
ssh
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3001[19:10:34] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: You can kill a task from the
CLI,
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3002[19:11:11] <jhutchins_wk> g0zzy: We're wondering why you
would want a desktop on a remote system.
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3007[19:12:11] <teraflops> why not?
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3008[19:12:56] <greycat> because you'll never be able to use
it?
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3009[19:13:18] <n4dir> he probably doesn't always want to
use it remote, via ssh. He only does the actual installation of mate
via ssh.
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3010[19:13:18] <teraflops> are you guys being serious?
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3011[19:13:37] <n4dir> could also be useful to use vns or such in
the future, i guess.
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3012[19:13:51] <teraflops> and it does not make any difference
regarding package installation
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3015[19:14:47] <n4dir> vnc, urgh
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3017[19:15:08] <teraflops> so my father who lives 5k Km from here
and run debian wants to run mate, do I have to travek there for
installing it? :P
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3019[19:15:33] <JustASlacker> just 5km? just run over
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3020[19:15:33] <teraflops> excuse my typos
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3021[19:15:42] <teraflops> no 5k km
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3022[19:15:42] <JustASlacker> its healthy
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3023[19:15:44] <JustASlacker> oh+
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3024[19:15:54] <n4dir> tell your father he shall not use mate, as
a first step towards enlightenment.
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3026[19:16:03] <JustASlacker> well, could be healthy. take some
water and food with you
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3027[19:16:10] <teraflops> actually he runs gnome :D
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3028[19:16:22] <n4dir> it gets worse ... muah-ha-ha.
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3029[19:16:36] <teraflops> hehe
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3031[19:17:33] <frazr> colleague thinks i should use kubuntu
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3032[19:17:33] <frazr> :D
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3036[19:17:47] <greycat> You'd still need to be physically
at the machine to make sure the fucking display manager actually
WORKS when you reboot it, because as we all know from hanging out
here, a HUGE fraction of the time, after installing something X-ish
on stretch, the DM hangs or locks up or bursts into flame.
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3039[19:19:49] <jhutchins_wk> teraflops: Yeah, I was wondering if
he was installing remotely for local use, or if he was one of those
Windows admins who thinks you need a full desktop gui to admin the
system by vnc.
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3041[19:20:56] <n4dir> didn't realize it yet, but found
another good reason not to use a DM.
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3042[19:21:07] <teraflops> jhutchins_wk: yeah I get it, and
greycat had a point too
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3043[19:21:20] <teraflops> startx is fine if you ask me
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3047[19:22:33] <n4dir> someone said something bout logind (?) or
such not working properly if you don't use a DM, but i have
seen no problems yet. that is: there might be reasons for a DM
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3048[19:22:53] <greycat> I think you have it backwards. GNOME
requires systemd-logind.
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3049[19:23:02] <greycat> Or something like that.
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3050[19:23:50] <g0zzy> Yes. I just purged the whole of
task-mate-desktop and now reinstalling. Physically
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(apart from unwilling) Windows admin ;)
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3066[19:27:03] <n4dir> greycat: i thought of it being gnome, but
didn't want to look as if i wanted to bash gnome (and mainly
not, as i was not sure). Anyway: thanks, probably like that
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3100[19:43:44] <jhutchins> ,v firefox
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3101[19:43:45] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 --
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 57.0-1
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3108[19:46:08] <jhutchins> Strnge, I have 52.4.
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3110[19:46:36] <greycat> firefox-esr != firefox-release !=
firefox
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3113[19:47:14] <Marbug> Hi, I just created a debian container in
lxc with lxc_container. But when I'm running container_command
there doesn't seem to be any networking. Right afterwards there
is but I need it on the time of container_command. Anyways, when I
tried to debug there doesn't seem to be less available on the
system, needed for journalctl -xe as I found out that starting
networking faild. Although without less on the system I can't
see what the error might be, is there
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3114[19:47:20] <Marbug> any way to see anything on some other
way?
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3141[20:01:43] * LtL runs firefox 57.0 (64-bit) and it's sweet.
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3142[20:02:06] <greycat> I saw a television commercial for
Firefox last night. It was unexpected.
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3145[20:02:24] <Halcy0n> That's odd
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3147[20:02:46] <greycat> They're really campaigning behind
this new version.
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3149[20:02:55] <LtL> firefox is touting this new
'Quantum' verion
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3152[20:04:56] <LtL> *version
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3159[20:06:01] <n4dir> as long it crashes every now and then i am
happy with any version of firefox
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3183[20:14:23] <LtL> n4dir: i never use the 'cra$h'
word, so it never happens, now i've probably hexed myself
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3193[20:16:25] <EvanCarroll>
replaced-url
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3203[20:18:46] <_rubik> this may be off topic, but what are
peoples thoughts on firefox 57?
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3208[20:21:07] <hanckmannp_> Hi. I just did a minimal server
install of debian 9.2 and I want to run some python3 applications
from a virtualenv. However, pip keeps throwing: error: invalid
command 'bdist_wheel
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3209[20:21:11] <hanckmannp_> Any ideas?
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3216[20:25:24] <annadane> _rubik, i like it, it's really
nice. that said, there's an off topic channel: #debian-offtopic
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3252[20:38:06] <Klaus_Dieter> plugins have been the strength of
firefox. Firefox57 now breaks compatibility with blugins like
vimperator. this ais a showstopper for me... :/
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3256[20:39:06] <MicroMars> Klaus_Dieter, i think things need to
change
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3258[20:39:23] <MicroMars> but i agree that it's a bit sad
that some extentions don't work anymore
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3261[20:40:00] <MicroMars> but i think if Mozilla gave no
deadline, even short it was, no-one will change
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3262[20:40:11] <MicroMars> (sorry for ugly english)
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3263[20:40:47] <tremolo> Pocket has reappeared. This displeases
me.
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3268[20:43:45] <Irishluck83> is it possible for the wifi cards to
be there for the intial install
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3277[20:47:16] <somiaj> !firmware images
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3278[20:47:16] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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3280[20:47:39] <somiaj> Irishluck83: there are
'unoffical' images that contain the firmware needed for
most wifi cards.
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3295[20:54:16] <Irishluck83> oh do you know the site
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3297[20:54:43] <greycat> !firmware installer
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3298[20:54:43] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional
<firmware>, by including it within installation media or
supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See
replaced-url
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3302[20:55:19] <somiaj> Irishluck83: the bots factoid gave the
url of said image
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3306[20:58:14] <Irishluck83> ok thanks
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