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1[00:00:20] <Ingvix> oh
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3[00:00:29] <CutMeOwnThroat> Ingvix, but there is an owncloud
packagage in debian itself
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4[00:00:50] <Ingvix> ohh
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7[00:02:44] <Ingvix> uh, I'm not sure how to proceed
though
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8[00:03:03] <Ingvix> should I remove those that I installed
and try more official instructions?
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11[00:03:44] <CutMeOwnThroat> I haven't tried installing
it... and the "owncloud" package seems to be just a
meta-package that pulls in apache2 and others
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13[00:04:16] <CutMeOwnThroat> but it's not unusual that
3rd-party packages don't work very well in debian
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15[00:05:38] <CutMeOwnThroat> but cant really say much about
owncloud itself, haven't tried it
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16[00:05:56] <Ingvix> okay
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17[00:06:12] <Ingvix> I guess I try to clean up the mess I did
now and try some other way maybe
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24[00:07:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> it is generally better to build
yourself and install in /opt or /user/local/ (e.g. /opt/mysoftware)
than install packages from outside debian
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26[00:07:45] <Ingvix> I try that if I find out how
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27[00:07:59] <CutMeOwnThroat> or well, maybe depends
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31[00:10:14] <markybob> really the main issue is you should
never use webmin
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36[00:10:53] <Ingvix> oh
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37[00:11:01] <Ingvix> why not
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38[00:11:01] <markybob> !webmin
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39[00:11:02] <dpkg> Webmin is a lame web-based interface for
unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at
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41[00:11:17] <Ingvix> oh
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44[00:12:06] <CutMeOwnThroat> but what does this have to do
with webmin?
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45[00:12:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> nuffin
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46[00:12:19] <markybob> he was getting 404 errors trying to
install webmin
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47[00:12:38] <markybob> so, yeah, it matters
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48[00:13:12] <CutMeOwnThroat> no?
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49[00:13:23] <Ingvix> if the package even installed it as it
didn't install mysql though according to that tutorial it
should've
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50[00:13:50] <CutMeOwnThroat> owncloud apparently has some
webadmin thingy
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51[00:13:54] <CutMeOwnThroat> that's hardly
"webmin"
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52[00:14:09] <markybob> oh. then i misread
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64[00:20:55] <CutMeOwnThroat> guess it doesn't help that
the webmin and dotdeb php packages are a bit notorious
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117[00:40:19] <pw16> Is there a OneNote/Evernote equivalent for
linux?
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118[00:40:29] <pw16> If not, what do people use?
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124[00:44:29] <teraflops> wine?
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128[00:46:46] <markybob> pw16: i know codeweavers supports
evernote 4.x and onenote 2010...wine might be hard. newer might be
hard.
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129[00:46:57] <Zarthus> pw16: maybe wunderlist? I'm not
sure if it allows creating notes
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130[00:47:21] * Zarthus only ever used it in a browser.
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131[00:47:35] <pw16> Zarthus, wunderlist is just more for task
management i believe - but you can add notes to tasks
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132[00:47:37] <markybob> for notes i just use google's
keep. *shrug*
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135[00:47:56] <Zarthus> yeah it also doesn't seem to
support linux, just macs
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136[00:48:03] <teraflops>
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137[00:48:04] <pw16> just found this:
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138[00:48:04] <Zarthus> (well, anything but linux, to be more
accurate.)
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139[00:48:13] <pw16> markybob, hows that worked out for you? :)
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140[00:48:29] <markybob> pw16: obviously great since i still use
it :P
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142[00:49:30] <jmcnaught> pw16: basket and zim are a couple you
might want ot check out, or tomboy notes (if you're looking for
something native to linux)
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143[00:49:45] <pw16> jmcnaught, thanks! :)
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144[00:49:48] <jmcnaught> not exactly the same but might scratch
the same itch
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145[00:50:25] <teraflops> markybob: I heard google keep is not
that bad
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146[00:50:32] <markybob> teraflops: i really like it
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148[00:52:14] <pw16> i'm still in the process of
transitioning to linux
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150[00:52:21] <pw16> not quite sure how i'm going to really
do it
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151[00:52:25] <pw16> i'm still dual booting
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152[00:52:31] <pw16> so taking a step at a time
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153[00:52:51] <markybob> pw16: that's what's great
about something like keep. you can use it in linux, mac, windows,
android, ios...same notes
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154[00:53:02] <evilytwisted> Linux is love, linux is life. its
people friendly but its picky on who its friendly with!
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155[00:54:36] <pw16> markybob, I actually haven't tried
keep yet but will note that to try out
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156[00:54:55] <pw16> evilytwisted, yep i'm already loving
this channel, everyone is so responsive
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157[00:56:24] <jmcnaught> we have our moments
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158[00:57:30] <teraflops> hmm there is a chrome/chromium
extension and app
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159[00:57:51] <pw16> jmcnaught, never heard of basket and zim
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164[00:58:07] <pw16> but will check them out too
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167[00:58:43] <jmcnaught> pw16: they're both available as
Debian packages
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168[00:58:50] <evilytwisted> pw16: but im not a deb user :P
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170[00:58:56] <evilytwisted> im one of those.. offbreeds
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172[00:59:20] <pw16> jmcnaught, i'm not currently on deb
but will check it later :)
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177[01:01:57] <jmcnaught> pw16: they both have websites too :)
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178[01:02:05] <pw16> goodnight everyone! happy to meet you all.
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180[01:02:15] <pw16> thank you for all your replies, you know
who you are
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190[01:05:28] <evilytwisted> is it possibe to add yast, kyum,
yum, and synaptic on one os?
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191[01:05:34] <evilytwisted> and work
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229[01:30:43] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. I did a apt-cache search for
a gui battery monitor. I'm just not sure if any of these are
what I'm looking for.
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232[01:32:45] <jim> Lady_Aleena, this battery is powering what?
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233[01:33:35] <Lady_Aleena> jim, it is the battery backup.
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237[01:34:07] <jim> ok, probably you're looking for a
different kind of monitor?
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238[01:34:42] <jim> what's it backing up?
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241[01:34:55] <u0_a219> test
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243[01:35:12] <Lady_Aleena> If the power goes out, this will
keep my computer running long enough so I can shut it down
correctly.
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245[01:36:00] <u0_a219> this is so cool, im running irssi on my
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247[01:36:23] <jim> ok, did you get it connected? and, what are
the cables? also, what manufacturer/model is the battery backup?
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249[01:36:47] <jim> omit the second question, malformed thought.
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250[01:36:57] <Lady_Aleena> jim, APC BE750G, and yes the cord I
had was correct.
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253[01:37:40] <Lady_Aleena> I see something called apcupsd, but
the little description doesn't tell me if it is gui.
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255[01:38:15] <jim> so do I...
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256[01:38:31] <jim> ,find apcupsd
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258[01:38:34] <judd> Search for apcupsd in jessie/amd64:
apcupsd: etc/default/apcupsd, etc/init.d/apcupsd, sbin/apcupsd;
logcheck-database: etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/apcupsd;
aide-common: usr/share/aide/config/aide/aide.conf.d/31_aide_apcupsd
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260[01:38:52] <Lady_Aleena> jim, I just ran apt-cache search
APC.
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262[01:39:15] <jim> ,v apcupsd
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263[01:39:16] <judd> Package: apcupsd on amd64 -- squeeze:
3.14.8-2; wheezy: 3.14.10-2; jessie: 3.14.12-1.1; sid: 3.14.12-1.2;
stretch: 3.14.12-1.2
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265[01:39:35] <jim> so this thing is there...
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267[01:39:46] <Lady_Aleena> jim, I know, I just don't know
if it is gui.
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270[01:39:56] <jim> it's a daemon
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273[01:40:04] <jim> so it's not
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274[01:40:26] <Lady_Aleena> BEGONE! 8) # I have to get a little
silly right now, or I'll break into tears.
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275[01:40:28] <jim> but that's not to say you can't
monitor it with one
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276[01:41:15] <Lady_Aleena> My keyboard is now acting up too.
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277[01:41:19] <jim> one step at a time... first, let's see
if you can get apcupsd to work
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278[01:41:55] <Lady_Aleena> installing.
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279[01:42:07] <jim> then, let's see how to query it
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280[01:42:35] <jim> well, first make sure the ups is seen by it
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283[01:43:37] <jim> if it's really simple, maybe it uses
syslog... and you can monitor using that
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284[01:44:30] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry, I need to stop for a moment,
I'm broken.
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290[01:45:52] <jim> ok, let me know when you;re feeling better
and want to continue
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295[01:46:24] <Lady_Aleena> jim, maybe after my keyboard stops
acting up. I don't get why it is suddenly being such a pain.
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296[01:47:19] <jim> hmm... what kind of kbd?
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299[01:47:57] <Lady_Aleena> A Microsoft Natural Ergonomic
Keyboard 4000 v1.0
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303[01:48:18] <jim> ok... how does it connect?
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304[01:48:30] <Lady_Aleena> USB
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305[01:48:39] <markybob> i never understood how people use those
and then use other computers
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307[01:49:03] <markybob> muscle memory is real :P
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309[01:49:34] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, I know. Every other
keyboard is so cramped to me now. Laptop keyboards are almost
useless.
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311[01:49:59] <markybob> maybe it's time for a change :)
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313[01:50:17] <jim> do you happen to have a spare?
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314[01:50:27] <mosh> I use mechanical keyboards :)
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315[01:50:31] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, um, go back to a cramped
keyboard which will kill my wrists?
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316[01:50:38] <Lady_Aleena> jim, no.
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317[01:50:58] * mosh hugs his IBM Model M recapped with a
programmer's dvorak layout
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318[01:51:10] <jim> yeah, taking care of wrists is good of
course
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321[01:51:23] <Lady_Aleena> jim, let me quality that
"no". There are other keyboards available, however they
are so dirty I won't let them back in the house.
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323[01:51:52] <mosh> You can even get different colored key
caps, even custom ones printed
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325[01:51:58] <markybob> mosh: good geek. we all should have
those
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326[01:52:08] <jim> what's good about mechanical kbds?
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328[01:52:26] <markybob> jim: are you being serious? ever used
one?
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329[01:52:34] <mosh> They last forever, aren't made
cheaply. You can even get weighted keys :)
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330[01:52:42] <jim> not sure...
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331[01:52:51] <markybob> jim: you'd know. they're
heaven.
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332[01:52:55] <jim> weighted?
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333[01:52:58] <markybob> young people, i swear
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334[01:53:00] <markybob> ;)
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335[01:53:17] <jim> hah :P
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336[01:53:19] <mosh> I have an 1987 model m keyboard that works
flawless, only problem is the letters were rubbed off
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337[01:53:35] * mosh isn't young
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338[01:53:47] <markybob> me either. that's why we know :)
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341[01:54:39] <mosh> :D, I even switched the windows key to the
meta key symbol used on unix workstations (sun, ibm, etc) the
diamond key
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342[01:55:04] * mosh feels more comfortable that way
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350[01:57:28] <Lady_Aleena> mosh, I want my "Windows"
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351[01:58:07] <Lady_Aleena> Either Debian or KDE stole that key
and made it a "meta" key which annoys me to bits.
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355[01:59:09] <markybob> i know nothing about kde but xfce can
reset it. i assume kde can
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358[01:59:34] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, I haven't found it
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360[02:00:22] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: i'm sure if you asked
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363[02:01:47] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, right now I want to kick
something. Do one thing good for my system, and several other things
break.
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366[02:02:09] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: are you doing something
stupid like using testing?
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367[02:02:27] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, not that I am aware of.
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369[02:02:49] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: can you put your
/etc/apt/sources.list on paste.debian.net ?
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370[02:03:15] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, why do you need that?
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376[02:03:55] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: it'd tell me if
you're using stable/testing/sid/frakendebian/whatever. jessie
doesn't break that easily
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379[02:04:41] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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380[02:05:11] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: okay that looks good
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382[02:05:55] <markybob> oh no
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383[02:06:05] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: i misread and skipped
something
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384[02:06:08] <Lady_Aleena> What?
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385[02:06:19] <markybob> http.debian.net are your main sources
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386[02:06:24] <markybob> that's not right
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388[02:07:06] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: well...it can be. but the
point is it uses httpredir.debian.org which is often broken
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389[02:07:11] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: so i'd change it
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394[02:07:51] <markybob> !httpredir issues
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395[02:07:51] <dpkg> The <httpredir> service selects bad
mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly
choosing a mirror: "deb
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399[02:09:12] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, you sure?
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400[02:09:35] <jim> whats an example of how such a mirror got
bad?
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401[02:09:44] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: i'm sure. that
factoid was made by greycat. in greycat we trust. plus i've
seen plenty of people having problems with it on here
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402[02:10:04] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, I've not seen any
problems with it yet.
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403[02:10:06] <markybob> jim: 404
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404[02:10:23] <jim> dead mirrors, nonexistant
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405[02:10:41] <markybob> yes
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406[02:11:38] * jim -still- loves his sources.list.m4
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407[02:11:45] <Lady_Aleena> I got kitten in hand now, brb.
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408[02:12:01] <jim> and associated makefile
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409[02:12:12] <markybob> Lady_Aleena: you always do. how many do
you have? i have 3 :P had four 'til a month ago :(
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410[02:12:26] <Lady_Aleena> markybob, 1
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411[02:12:32] <markybob> i'm the man version of the old cat
lady
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415[02:13:16] <jim> sorry to hear cats=cats-1
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416[02:13:26] <jmcnaught> markybob: three cats is the threshold.
more than three you are official a crazy person
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417[02:13:32] <Lady_Aleena> GUH! I am so tense right now.
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418[02:13:42] <markybob> jmcnaught: i had 9 at one point.
i'm not even kidding.
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419[02:13:57] <markybob> jmcnaught: i live in the woods, though.
they're mostly always outside
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420[02:14:17] <Lady_Aleena> I think I need to step away from
this computer and deal with it later.
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421[02:14:29] <Lady_Aleena> Something is really wrong with it
now.
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464[02:41:13] <jrabbit> did the default settigns for typing and
using the ouse at the same time change
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465[02:41:23] <jrabbit> and how can i get the old behvior back?
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472[02:49:28] <jrabbit> jmcnaught: before I could use a
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473[02:49:30] <jrabbit> now i cant
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474[02:49:36] <jrabbit> the mouse is disabled when i type
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481[02:52:57] <jmcnaught> jrabbit: this is also likely tied to
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487[02:58:17] <markybob> jrabbit: i've heard this a couple
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488[02:59:07] <jrabbit> yeah
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489[02:59:30] <markybob> jrabbit: so you should ask the testing
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601[03:39:55] <markybob> lovestospooge: you shouldn't do
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606[03:40:57] <markybob> lovestospooge: irc as root is asking to
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678[04:25:09] <Guest50461> Hi, i want to install the last driver
from nvdia, i launched the script and it says that it needs to
blacklist nouveau, the script did a file to blacklist it and i had
to reboot so nouveau will be disabled but when i reboot and launch
the nvdia script again it compain that nouveau it still in use. How
can i disable it plz ?
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681[04:26:42] <markybob> Guest50461: what script?
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682[04:26:57] <jmcnaught> Guest50461: you're better off
using the Debian packages as documented here:
replaced-url
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685[04:27:27] <markybob> Guest50461: what he said. that's
the only thing supported here. that's why i asked.
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686[04:27:41] <Guest50461> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-361.42.run
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687[04:27:44] <markybob> Guest50461: it's for a reason.
third party shit breaks things
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688[04:27:49] <markybob> Guest50461: don't ever do that
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692[04:27:59] <jmcnaught> Guest50461: using the installer script
from the nvidia website is not supported here, and can cause fun
stuff to happen like "no more graphics after kernel
updates." Take a look at
replaced-url
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696[04:28:41] <Guest50461> ok, so how can i install the lastest
nvidia drivers i need it to play steam games plz ?
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697[04:29:08] <markybob> by following that wiki and the steam
wiki from debian. not third party stuff which breaks everything
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701[04:29:45] <markybob> Guest50461: wiki.debian.org/Steam
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702[04:29:48] <Guest50461> i saw that wiki but the driver are
wayyy outdated
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704[04:30:01] <jmcnaught> Guest50461: jessie-backports has
352.79 available in a format that will get automatic upgrades with
the rest of your packages (unlike the script you're using).
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706[04:30:34] <Guest50461> ok ty
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708[04:32:07] <markybob> Guest50461: do you know how to use
jessie-backports?
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713[04:32:46] <markybob> now how you remove the nvidia things
you already installed that broke things...*shrug*
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715[04:33:09] <DiscoDave> when trying to install debian i can
connect to my wireless network the live cd, but as soon as i open
the installer it doesnt work
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717[04:33:30] <DiscoDave> *with the live cd
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718[04:33:43] <markybob> DiscoDave: you probably need the
firmware installer cd
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720[04:33:55] <markybob> DiscoDave:
cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/
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721[04:34:04] <DiscoDave> but it works on the live installation
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722[04:34:13] <markybob> there is live firmware
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723[04:34:14] <DiscoDave> i literally just clicked the installer
from the desktop
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724[04:34:41] <markybob> live installer is buggy as fuck though
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725[04:34:50] <DiscoDave> :S
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726[04:36:40] <markybob> DiscoDave: you should pastebin lspci
-nn and tell us how you're going to copy the iso to the medium
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728[04:37:40] <DiscoDave>
replaced-url
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729[04:37:45] <DiscoDave> i downloaded the mate one from there
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730[04:37:51] <DiscoDave> and dd'd it on to a usb
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731[04:38:08] <DiscoDave> and it seemed to work fine, because i
was able to log in and partition my harddrive
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732[04:38:39] <DiscoDave> the only issue im having is with the
installer not connecting to the network, which is weird because i
was able to connect fine with network-manager
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733[04:38:46] <DiscoDave> so the firmware is installed
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734[04:38:50] <markybob> if it works on live and not from
install i have to blame it on being live. like i said it's
buggy as shit.
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735[04:38:53] <jmcnaught> DiscoDave: if you want UEFI support
you need to use an installer image, live images don't support
UEFI
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736[04:39:03] <DiscoDave> i dont need uefi support
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740[04:39:43] <markybob> DiscoDave: the lead developer of live
quit a couple months ago.
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741[04:39:52] <DiscoDave> can i download an installer image with
the non-free firmware already on it?
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742[04:40:06] <markybob> DiscoDave: i gave you the link already
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744[04:40:45] <DiscoDave> oh my bad
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745[04:41:03] <DiscoDave> i didnt realize it had the non free
firmware
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747[04:42:55] <markybob> you should still do what i asked and
pastebin the info. but if not that iso might work
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750[04:43:31] <DiscoDave> the lspci -nn from the live cd?
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753[04:43:46] <markybob> yes
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754[04:43:54] <markybob> or you can just try and come back
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755[04:43:59] <DiscoDave> :S i already turned it off
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756[04:43:59] <markybob> doesn't much matter
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757[04:44:07] <DiscoDave> im gonna put the iso on this stick and
try it
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759[04:44:37] <markybob> must be nice :P i'm a cell tether.
it'd take me forever to download that :/
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760[04:44:58] <DiscoDave> whats a cell tether?
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761[04:45:39] <markybob> i live in the middle of nowhere so
there's no internet. only cell phones. my laptop gets internet
from phone
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762[04:46:16] <DiscoDave> ohh i understand now
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763[04:46:21] <DiscoDave> that's rough
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764[04:46:31] <jarray52> When using the debian puppet package,
I'm getting the error message "certificate verify failed:
[self signed certificate in certificate chain for /CN=Puppet
CA:". This seems odd since the puppet master always self signs
certificates.
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771[04:50:39] <DiscoDave> this iso works much better, ty
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832[05:35:51] <x032cx> how do i forec systemd to pause for a
passphrase during boot
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834[05:36:00] <x032cx> force*
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837[05:37:21] <themill> x032cx: what problem are you trying to
solve?
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839[05:37:43] <themill> (why does it need to pause?)
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840[05:37:51] <x032cx> just added a new drive and its encrypted
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841[05:38:30] <x032cx> but i dont get to enter the passphrase at
the prompt
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842[05:39:22] <x032cx> the prompt just fliy by during the boot
process
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843[05:39:40] <themill> Ahh, you don't need to get the boot
to pause, you just need to see a passwd prompt
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844[05:39:56] <themill> Installing the "plymouth"
package provides that
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848[05:40:32] <x032cx> i do see the prompt but it does not pause
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849[05:40:43] <x032cx> no plymouth pkg here
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851[05:41:56] <x032cx> themill:i get to enter the passphrase
much later when the process is stalled
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853[05:44:10] <x032cx> themill:no graphical interface here
neither for plymouth
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854[05:44:32] <themill> plymouth isn't graphical
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855[05:45:00] <x032cx> themill:so what is the exact pkg name
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856[05:45:05] <themill> plymouth
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857[05:45:20] <themill> ,i plymouth'
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858[05:45:21] <judd> No package named 'plymouth''
was found in jessie/amd64.
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859[05:45:21] <themill> ,i plymouth
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860[05:45:22] <judd> Package plymouth (misc, optional) in
jessie/amd64: boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer. Version:
0.9.0-9; Size: 184.2k; Installed: 801k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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862[05:46:29] <x032cx> themill:so this pkg will force the prompt
for the passphrase
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863[05:47:22] <themill> it separates output spew to the terminal
from interactivity, yes. ("I/O multiplexer")
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864[05:47:38] <x032cx> good, thx
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872[05:54:13] <zykotick9> themill: i'm confused. i use
encrypted lvm and don't have plymouth installed...
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875[05:54:55] <markybob> zykotick9: why are you confused? most
of us don't
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876[05:55:24] <themill> there are undoubtedly other ways of
doing this, but this is the way that the systemd maintainers
recommended getting this multiplexing working
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877[05:55:45] <zykotick9> markybob: well, it seemed, by
themill's description that in order to see a luks password
prompt, plymouth would be required?!?! <- i must be confused...
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881[05:58:14] <x032cx> zykotick9:the issue is not to see the
luks password prompt only, but also to wait of it to be entered
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886[05:58:56] <zykotick9> x032cx: ya... and that part I
don't really get... but I guess this isn't the /
partition. good luck.
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887[05:59:08] <x032cx> haha
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892[06:00:44] <DiscoDave> is there an easy way to install refind
on debian?
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895[06:02:44] <markybob> DiscoDave: mac i assume?
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896[06:02:52] <DiscoDave> no
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897[06:02:53] <DiscoDave> hp
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898[06:02:57] <Tirn> Evening all! Why is it that I'm not
able to run Debian from USB (full install), although it works with
other Distros? Thx!
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899[06:03:01] <markybob> so why?
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900[06:03:27] <markybob> Tirn: how did you copy the iso to the
usb?
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903[06:04:24] <DiscoDave> so there is no easy way to install
refind from debian?
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904[06:04:32] <themill> Tirn: perhaps you could expand on what
you tried and in what way it didn't work
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906[06:04:58] <Tirn> @markybob The instalation USB works fine,
but I would like to do a full instal to another USB
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908[06:05:21] <markybob> DiscoDave: there is a wiki on it.
i've never used it. wish you'd answer why.
replaced-url
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910[06:05:52] <DiscoDave> because i used it before to dual boot
ubuntu and window 7 and it worked perfectly on this laptop
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911[06:06:01] <markybob> Tirn: then we need more info like
themill said
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912[06:06:24] <markybob> DiscoDave: that's not a good
reason
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913[06:06:38] <DiscoDave> :S
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914[06:06:40] <DiscoDave> why not
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915[06:07:00] <markybob> DiscoDave: debian's installer
should autodetect windows 7 and set up grub so you can dual boot. no
need to worry about other things
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916[06:07:08] <DiscoDave> well it didnt :S
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919[06:07:30] <Tirn> Thx guys, but I am just using a second USB
drive as a destination for a full instal (with / and Swap). The
installation works fine, but on boot I just get a black screen. This
procedure works fine with Ubuntu, Mint, etc.
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920[06:07:34] <markybob> DiscoDave: are you using secure boot?
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922[06:07:38] <DiscoDave> no
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923[06:07:49] <DiscoDave> legacy
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925[06:08:29] <markybob> DiscoDave: did you use live ?
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926[06:08:33] <DiscoDave> no
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927[06:08:34] <zykotick9> Tirn: did you select grub to be
installed on the USB <- was it obvious which device was your USB
for grub install?
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928[06:08:36] <DiscoDave> i used the iso you sent me
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930[06:08:59] <markybob> sorry i talk to too many people to
remember
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931[06:09:13] <Tirn> it also worked fine with Debian 7. Not
anymore with Debian 8. Yup, Grub destination is the USB drive
I'm installing to
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933[06:09:16] <mr_ws> my /etc/debian_versian says 8.4. i
don't have a kernel.panic_on_warn.
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934[06:09:25] <mr_ws> how do i set my system to panic when a
WARN() is called?
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935[06:09:36] <themill> Tirn: at what stage do you get a black
screen?
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936[06:09:39] <mr_ws> can i boot with the parameter
panic_on_warn? does that work?
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940[06:10:07] <jmcnaught> DiscoDave: i might be wrong because
i've never used refind, but i thought it was an UEFI tool, not
for legacy/bios booting
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942[06:10:43] <Tirn> @themill after reboot and selecting the
said USB I installed on. With other distros the Grub menu shows up
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943[06:10:46] <markybob> jmcnaught: that was my understanding as
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945[06:11:19] <Tirn> running Mint Mate that way now, but would
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946[06:11:42] <themill> Tirn: selecting as the boot device? Are
you sure you installed grub on the usb stick?
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947[06:11:47] <x032cx> themill:it looks like its been some
change when the prompt appears but still the same problem
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949[06:13:03] <Tirn> yes, did the installation twice to get
sure...that was also my first reaction... I can also locate the
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950[06:13:28] <x032cx> themill:I no see a started Dispatch for
password on console but the crypt process is halted down the road
until i enter the password
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951[06:13:36] <x032cx> now*
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956[06:15:02] <x032cx> themill:no it is not working, the
password is not entered at the promt
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957[06:16:25] <x032cx> themill:there is someting i quit
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958[06:18:07] <x032cx> what is the conflict between kbd and
console-tools
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969[06:27:10] <x032cx> themill:anymore ideas
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970[06:27:34] <themill> x032cx: sounds like you've done
everything I normally do
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972[06:28:24] <x032cx> themill:well, it seems to me that systemd
is causing this issue
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974[06:28:57] <themill> well, it's the (lack of)
interaction between bits
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975[06:29:41] <x032cx> themill:any links where plymouth is
discussed regarding this IO issue
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979[06:30:48] <themill> Not off the top of my head and trying to
find sensible discussion when the string "systemd" is
involved is difficult as the S/N tends to immediately plummet with
people more interested in ranting than anything else :(
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983[06:31:50] <x032cx> ok, no worries this just anoying does not
prevent for passphrase entry
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986[06:34:23] <x032cx> just reverting the changes for now until
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warning: start runlevel arguments (1 2 3 4 5) do not match apcupsd
Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
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998[06:45:30] <markybob> how slow is your colocation's
generatros?
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1000[06:45:46] <markybob> i don't have to worry at all
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1001[06:46:07] <markybob> spelled correctly
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for some reason OpenGL won't work error I get is 'xlib:
extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"'
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1032[07:08:11] <space_> nvm found some Fglrx stuff I still had
installed causing conflicks
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1128[08:18:24] <spigot> so once my laptop goes to sleep once, it
only stays awake long enough to go back to sleep, no matter how much
batter, ac power, gdm shutdown, upowerd shutdown... a reboot fixes
it until the next sleep
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having problems heres dmesg,
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1202[09:15:39] <mi11k1> Does anybody know, how to get CPU freq to
not ask for a password?
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1211[09:19:09] <han-solo> how can use grep to find a word in a
file?
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1212[09:19:43] <han-solo> like i want to find a word in a file
that stating with hello
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1213[09:19:54] <han-solo> grep \<hello\>?
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1215[09:20:42] <mi11k1> i do cat filename | grep word
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1216[09:21:07] <han-solo> i know that
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1217[09:21:08] <aypea[1]> grep word filename also works :)
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1218[09:21:29] <han-solo> i mean, "if this sentence has
hello in it"
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1219[09:21:44] <elky> don't forget -i for case insensitivity
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1220[09:21:46] <aypea[1]> han: so you want to find an actual
word, right?
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1221[09:21:55] <han-solo> yeah
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1222[09:22:05] <aypea[1]> han: grep --help and check -w
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1224[09:22:16] <han-solo> sentence like "this sentence has
dummyhello"
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1225[09:22:29] <han-solo> i don't want this to be poped up
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1227[09:23:09] <han-solo> ofcourse elky
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1228[09:23:26] <mi11k1> egrep -R "word-1|word-2”
directory-path
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1229[09:23:56] <han-solo> thanks mi11k1
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1230[09:24:03] <han-solo> thanks aypea
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1232[09:24:11] <aypea[1]> no worries :)
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1234[09:24:57] <themill> That doesn't do what you want
according to my understanding of your question
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1235[09:25:10] <mi11k1> yah, i dunno
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1236[09:25:13] <han-solo> yeah
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1237[09:25:18] <han-solo> i was checking that
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1238[09:25:22] <mi11k1>
replaced-url
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1239[09:25:26] <han-solo> although they did try to help
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1240[09:25:28] <aypea[1]> mine will
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1241[09:25:29] <themill> (-w does though, depending on your
meaning of "word")
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1243[09:26:17] <han-solo> i wanted to find the lines with the
word "hello" in it, not just "he" or
"dummyhello"
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1245[09:26:37] <aypea[1]> go forth. try -w. see if it does what
you want.
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1246[09:26:46] <han-solo> cat file.txt | grep --color=auto hell*
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1247[09:26:50] <mi11k1> match specific string
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1248[09:29:17] <mi11k1> my docker is broken, anybody know
something about docker??
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1249[09:29:21] <han-solo> it strips the line after the first
match
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1251[09:31:05] <mi11k1> han-solo, what about awk?
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1252[09:31:44] <han-solo> should look into it
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1253[09:32:12] <mi11k1> i dont know anything about it, but i have
some conky stuff that uses it
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1255[09:32:36] <mi11k1> im looking at the man page now, its over
my head
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1257[09:33:42] <mi11k1> that or egrep
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1261[09:35:53] <han-solo> yeah thanks
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1273[09:49:44] <dutchfish> hi, reinstalled my system debian 8
x86/64 and apper in kde along with apt-config-auto-update from bpo
and pk-update-icon. Somehow dispite reading alot on the wiki pages i
am unabble to let the system check for new updates. Any hints?
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1282[09:53:18] <JyZyXEL> what name is the libgtk 3.0 devel
package in debian?
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1286[09:55:07] <dutchfish> libgtk-3-dev ?
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1287[09:55:30] <JyZyXEL> haha, gtk2 was "libgtk2.0-dev"
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1288[09:55:41] <JyZyXEL> so naturally i was trying to search with
"libgtk3"
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1289[09:56:27] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, well, what about apt-file
search libgtk | grep dev ?
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1290[09:57:11] <JyZyXEL> yeah, well, that didn't happen
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1291[09:57:24] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, fair enough, have fun.
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1296[09:59:26] <JyZyXEL> i doubt it, because the lib is too
outdated :p
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1300[10:01:40] <dutchfish> ,versions libgtk-3-dev
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1301[10:01:41] <judd> Package: libgtk-3-dev on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.4.2-7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie:
3.14.5-1+deb8u1; stretch: 3.20.3-2; sid: 3.20.4-1
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1318[10:13:27] <oafdskl> I wanted to encrypt my usb device and
typed some wrong commands. Now my boot is very slow. There are
messages like "Failed to initialize dm devices" and
"a stop job is running".
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1322[10:18:35] <oafdskl> Clean install didn't help to solve
slow boot. Would new partitioning with gparted help?
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1324[10:18:40] <hmir> Hi guys. When I run sensors, It shows my
cpu fan speed at 0 rpm. The fan is claerly running, and is correctly
being detected and monitored in BIUS. I've run sensors-detect,
but no go. Any ideas?
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1327[10:19:36] <countbackula> Computer model?
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1334[10:22:23] <teraflops> Not al mobos/models support all the
sensors.
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1339[10:23:16] <hmir> It's a haswell msi h81m-e with a
pentium g3240 proc.
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1343[10:24:32] <mi11k1> hmir, did you see if there was a bios
update?
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1346[10:24:59] <hmir> Bios is already detecting and monitoring
the fans just fine.
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1349[10:25:06] <mi11k1> yah, but
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1351[10:25:28] <mi11k1> i just read a few quick things that ppl
were having problems with that setup
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1353[10:25:53] <hmir> Can you please paste the link?
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1357[10:29:07] <mi11k1> hmir, i just did a google search a
skimmed through a bunch of stuff, stuff related seem to be something
with restarting and something about fans, i dunno
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1360[10:30:14] <mi11k1> but teraflops is right, it might just be
as simple as not being supported
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1361[10:31:25] <mi11k1> sometimes theres an option in bios to
enable the os to have control or something like that
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1364[10:32:17] <hmir> No such option for me. =(
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1367[10:32:27] <mi11k1> hmir, what desktop are you using?
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1369[10:32:42] <mi11k1> desktop environment?
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1371[10:33:53] <mi11k1> can you send me a pic of the bios info
screen?
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1376[10:37:44] <mi11k1> im sick of msi, ive lost 2 mobos for no
reason over the last year, just dead, no misuse or overclocking,
just stopped working, really made me upset, considering every old
piece of hardware i own works fine.
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1382[10:40:21] <cynicallemon> mi11k1, i used msi years back and
they were crap, turned to asus and stuck with them
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1383[10:40:46] <jml2> mi11k1, asus works well here
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1386[10:41:02] <jml2> cynicallemon, i concur :p
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1387[10:41:04] <mi11k1> im down to a p4, athlon single core,
pentium M, and some other old thing
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1388[10:41:28] <mi11k1> all together, kind of make things happen
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1391[10:43:02] <mi11k1> and i dont know why, everytime i give
ubuntu a whirl, i regret it
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1394[10:43:32] <mi11k1> seems good at first, and then something
annoying will happen
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1400[10:47:16] <cynicallemon> mi11k1, yep that about sums up
ubuntu for me
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1401[10:47:35] <PaulePanter> Hi. Any idea what
replaced-url
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1402[10:47:45] <cynicallemon> i was keen to try 16.04 and it
lasted about an hour
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1403[10:47:46] <PaulePanter> … from
replaced-url
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1404[10:47:46] <mi11k1> bloated with with all sorts of weird
colors
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1405[10:47:55] <PaulePanter> Marriage, divorce?
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1406[10:48:11] <jim> is standard now a task to install those
packages/.
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1407[10:48:13] <jim> ?
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1409[10:49:09] <mi11k1> jessie lite on rpi3 is pretty sweet
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1411[10:50:00] <cynicallemon> rpi is still poor for disk and
network throughput
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1412[10:50:06] <cynicallemon> but its cheap
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1414[10:50:17] <mi11k1> i know, but this one is way better
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1415[10:50:36] <cynicallemon> ive heard it is
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1416[10:50:42] <mi11k1> too bad the built on wifi wont go into
mon
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1419[10:51:32] <mi11k1> i was getting good throughput using it as
an access point with dnsmasq, i forget what speed i was getting,
like 30 mbit i guess
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1422[10:55:24] <hmir> Just wanted to confirm, when adding new
hardware, debian will auto-detext and load the correct modules for
it in most cases at boot time, correct?
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1423[10:56:44] <mi11k1> pretty much
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1424[10:56:53] <mi11k1> enable non-free
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1425[10:57:03] <mi11k1> what is the hardware
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1430[10:59:49] <mi11k1> hmir, what are you installing?
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1431[11:00:04] <hmir> So, I should enable non-free and then do a
update/upgrade first before installing hte hardware just in case?
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1432[11:00:15] <hmir> soundblast x-fi
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1436[11:00:35] <hmir> soundblast x-fi titanium pci-e x1
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1437[11:00:36] <pyface> i want to create some kind of container
(think truecrypt or similar,except encryption isn't vital) ..
to make it easy to backup shizz (one container file vs hundreds of
files). im really just wanting to backup my stuff to amazon s3 quite
frequently. what program would be suitable for this?
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1440[11:00:47] <mi11k1> enable non-free and install
firmware-linux-nonfree package
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1441[11:01:17] <hmir> Alright, will do, thanks.
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1442[11:01:18] <cynicallemon> hmir, enable non-free,
update/upgrade and install firmware-linux package
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1443[11:02:05] <cynicallemon> firmware-linux is a meta package
for both free and non-free firmware
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1444[11:02:32] <mi11k1> hmir,
replaced-url
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1446[11:02:49] <mi11k1> cynicallemon, thats good to know
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1450[11:04:32] <cynicallemon>
replaced-url
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1451[11:04:56] <qmr> pyface: backup is not a verb. you back up
your data then you have a backup.
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1455[11:05:53] <pyface> thank you mr pedantic (:
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1456[11:06:06] <jubo2> qmr: you back up your data, make sure the
back up works in case you need it and then you've backed up
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1457[11:06:22] <teraflops> Also consider to encrypt your shit if
you are going to upload it to the _cloud_
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1458[11:06:45] <cynicallemon> use tarsnap
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1459[11:06:46] <qmr> we are able to communicate because specific
words have specific meanings. muddying language is dangerous.
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1460[11:06:46] <pyface> i was a truecrypt user , but .. er.. ye..
awkward
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1462[11:06:56] <pyface> so much for that
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1464[11:07:42] <qmr> see also set up / setup , log in / login
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1465[11:07:48] <hmir> Does amazons3 do differential uploading
like dropbox?
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1469[11:11:14] <pyface> dunno
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1490[11:23:56] <urine535> burn all jews in oven
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1491[11:23:59] <urine535> death to infidels
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1492[11:24:00] <urine535> allahu akhbar
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1494[11:24:53] <pyface> allahu catbar you mean
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1496[11:25:13] <mi11k1> nice
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1497[11:25:34] <pyface>
replaced-url
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1498[11:25:37] <_ebola_> reported to Orimattila police department
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1499[11:25:49] <mi11k1> whats wrong with my bash? unzip cgbash:
command substitution: line 900: syntax error near unexpected token
`done'bash: command substitution: line 900: ` done'
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1500[11:26:01] <urine535> god bless allah
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1501[11:26:17] <urine535> god bless allah
# god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god
bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless
allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah
### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ###
god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god
bless allah ### god bless allah #
god bless allah
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1502[11:26:18] <urine535>
# god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god
bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless
allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah
### god bless allah ### god bless allah ### god bless allah #
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1503[11:26:30] <uptime> urine535: Please stop that
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1504[11:26:34] <sbine> ... mmmmh
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1506[11:26:58] <urine535> feces are righteous
# feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ###
feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ###
feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous #
feces are
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1507[11:26:59] <urine535> righteous
# feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ###
feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ###
feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous #
feces are righteous
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1508[11:27:00] <urine535>
# feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ###
feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are
righteous ### feces are righteous ### feces are righteous ###
feces are righteous ### feces are righteous #
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1509[11:27:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o uptime
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1510[11:27:11] *** uptime sets mode: +q-o
*!*@85-76-15-154-nat.elisa-mobile.fi uptime
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1513[11:29:00] <digidog> uptime: I assume this is a bot
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1514[11:29:15] <uptime> digidog: hmm?
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1515[11:29:16] <digidog> all you cvan do is learn to use the
ignore command in your chat application
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1516[11:29:52] <digidog> uptime: sry, bot is not the right word.
but I think its a script running this posts
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1518[11:30:15] <uptime> Ah, they're quieted now regardless,
so it's fine :)
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1520[11:30:47] <digidog> uptime: :)
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1522[11:31:02] <digidog> uptime++
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1525[11:34:46] <jackcom> bash: zip: command not found
<—— what’s wrong?
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1526[11:35:45] <digidog> jackcom: not installed ? o.@
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1528[11:35:55] <jackcom> i don’t know
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1529[11:36:05] <jackcom> how can i installl it?
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1530[11:36:20] <sbine> jackcom: aptitude install zip?
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1531[11:36:27] <jackcom> oh thanks
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1532[11:36:33] <digidog> sudo apt-get update && sudo
apt-get install (choose your zip-aware package here)
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1534[11:37:12] <Nitori> Am I the only one who uses aptitude? Is
aptitude actually recommended?
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1535[11:37:19] <teraflops> jackcom: if you're going to use
debian consider spend some time learning to use the package manager
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1536[11:37:34] <jackcom> teraflops: how?
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1537[11:37:39] <teraflops> Reading
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1539[11:38:21] <teraflops> jackcom:
replaced-url
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1540[11:38:45] <jackcom> Could not open lock file
/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
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1541[11:38:46] <jackcom> E: Unable to lock the administration
directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
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1542[11:38:55] <jackcom> thanks teraflops
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1543[11:38:56] <TomTomTosch> jackcom: debian is extensively
documented. the FAQ is a good place to get a general overview.
replaced-url
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1545[11:39:09] <TomTomTosch> jackcom: you need to run it as root.
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1546[11:39:10] <teraflops> Np
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1547[11:39:17] <jackcom> root
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1548[11:39:26] <jackcom> how i can run it root?
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1549[11:39:28] <teraflops> Sudo is ok
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1550[11:39:29] <jackcom> as root?
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1551[11:39:42] <jackcom> bash: sudo: command not found
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1553[11:39:52] <digidog> Nitori: no but when a "new"
user asks for installing I rather prefer to recommend apt-get since
it confuses new users reading apt-get then in the Debian docs.
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1554[11:39:55] <TomTomTosch> jackcom: you type in su and then the
password. afterwards you can install sudo.
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1555[11:39:56] <tulphoon> then do: su <root's
password>
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1556[11:39:59] <jackcom> thanks TomTomTosch
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1557[11:40:06] <tulphoon> then apt-get install sudo
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1560[11:40:28] <tulphoon> then you need to edit your sudoers
file, to give yourself access to sudo, you run command
"visudo" as root and you edit it
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1561[11:40:35] <jackcom> oh
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1562[11:40:44] <jackcom> su -l?
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1563[11:40:48] <jackcom> instead of su?
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1564[11:41:20] <tulphoon> and basically there will be entry for
"root" account, just copy it and replace root with your
account name
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1565[11:41:23] <tulphoon> just use su
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1566[11:41:25] <tulphoon> should work.
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1568[11:41:47] <jackcom> ok thanks
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1569[11:42:08] <TomTomTosch> tulphoon: all one needs to do is add
the user to the sudo group. the sudoers file already has an entry
for the sudo group.
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1570[11:42:57] <tulphoon> TomTomTosch: i always add myself to the
visudo file
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1572[11:43:21] <tulphoon> well, depends on what he wants to do
really, but adding to group could be better
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1583[11:45:06] <jackcom> zip warning: missing end
signature--probably not a zip file (did you
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1584[11:45:07] <jackcom> zip warning: remember to use binary mode
when you transferred it?)
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1585[11:45:08] <teraflops> I guess Vi sounds hard for jackcom or
that I infer from what I read
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1586[11:45:08] <jackcom> zip warning: (if you are trying to read
a damaged archive try -F)
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1587[11:45:08] <jackcom> zip error: Zip file structure invalid
(session.txt)
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1588[11:45:12] <jackcom> what’s wrong?
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1592[11:46:29] <tulphoon> you tried to unzip file that is called
"session.txt"
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1594[11:46:48] <tulphoon> before trying to unzip a file, check if
it's zip using "file" command e.g. file session.txt
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1595[11:47:04] <tulphoon> or any file you want to unzip :)
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1598[11:47:47] <jackcom> ok thanks
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1599[11:47:50] <jackcom> :)
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1615[11:59:37] <jackcom> ifconfig
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1616[11:59:37] <jackcom> bash: ifconfig: command not found
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1617[11:59:39] <cybrNaut> ZFS has finally made it to debian
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1618[11:59:39] <jackcom> lol
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1619[11:59:58] <cybrNaut> anyone know if it will be able to
/boot/ ZFS?
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1620[12:00:16] <TomTomTosch> jackcom: /sbin/ifconfig
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1622[12:00:40] <cybrNaut> ref
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1623[12:00:44] <jackcom> TomTomTosch: thanks Debian is too
inconvinient
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1624[12:00:46] <jackcom> :(
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1625[12:01:15] <JyZyXEL> im starting to get really fed up with
how hard it is to install bleeding-edge software on debian stable :\
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1627[12:01:44] <TomTomTosch> JyZyXEL: if you want bleeding-edge
debian stable is not for you.
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1628[12:02:12] <countbackula> yayyyy
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1630[12:02:25] <JyZyXEL> TomTomTosch: perhaps testing would be
better suited, but it doesn't get security updates
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1631[12:02:31] <teraflops> Also what do you mean by bleeding
edge?
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1632[12:02:36] <TomTomTosch> "im starting to get really fed
up teaching my pet stone italian."
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1635[12:04:11] <JyZyXEL> i wish i could just run
stable/testing/unstable all in parallel
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1639[12:04:37] <TomTomTosch> you can, debootstrap + chroot
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1641[12:05:31] <teraflops> Or pinning or whatever is used now.
Not a good idea but whatever floats your boat
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1647[12:08:10] <JyZyXEL> im not quite sure how chroot would work
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1659[12:09:43] <JyZyXEL> i wonder if i could use Qemu from within
a unstable LXC running on jessie
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1662[12:10:08] <TomTomTosch> you use debootstrap to pull any
debian version into a directory and use chroot to run stuff in that
environment.
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1663[12:11:03] <JyZyXEL> TomTomTosch: so i could debootstrap
unstable into my jessie and run latest Qemu from there?
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1666[12:12:30] <JyZyXEL> TomTomTosch: and could i even run the
plasma desktop 5 from that?
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1669[12:13:01] <teraflops> Heh
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1672[12:15:02] <mi11k1> JyZyXEL, docker?
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1673[12:15:33] <JyZyXEL> isn't docker pretty much same as
lxc?
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1674[12:15:50] <JyZyXEL> mi11k1: he was talking about chroot
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1676[12:17:05] <mi11k1> i dunno, it works pretty good, its like
vm with way less resource requirements
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1677[12:17:09] <JyZyXEL> what does the intel graphics kernel
driver say when you try to have two different Xorgs running with
video drivers?
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1679[12:17:40] <JyZyXEL> and does Qemu and libvirt work from
within chroot/lxc/docker?
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1681[12:18:09] <JyZyXEL> testing/unstable would make a much
better environment to run Qemu & libvirt in
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1682[12:18:36] <JyZyXEL> jessie is too old to even compile
upstream qemu with all the bells and whistles
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1683[12:19:13] <mi11k1> what do you wanna virtualize?
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1684[12:19:28] <mi11k1> what purpose?
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1687[12:19:57] <JyZyXEL> i virtualize a windows 7 machine for
Gaming and DAW
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1690[12:21:06] <mi11k1> ive tried qemu/kvm libvirt, i thibk
virtualbox is the simplest
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1692[12:21:34] <JyZyXEL> qemu is by-far the best in terms of
performance and reliability
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1693[12:21:37] <jim> how can I see the metapackages selectable
using task select?
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1694[12:21:58] <mi11k1> even vmware i think is pain
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1696[12:22:15] <JyZyXEL> but jessie is simply getting too old to
run Qemu on
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1697[12:22:32] <mi11k1> for gaming, maybe just dual boot
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1699[12:23:01] <mi11k1> so why dont you run stretch or sid?
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1700[12:23:19] <JyZyXEL> because then my whole host experience
becomes unsecure/unstable
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1701[12:23:39] <mi11k1> dual boot debian and share /home or
whatever
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1703[12:24:45] <JyZyXEL> no, i need the VM running concurrently
with my desktop
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1704[12:25:07] <mi11k1> ive come to find that you cant quite have
every single thing you want all at once and be perfect.
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1705[12:25:14] <JyZyXEL> and id rather not ruin my whole stable
desktop just so that i can install latest qemu/libvirt
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1707[12:25:40] <mi11k1> cant you build it?
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1708[12:25:50] <mi11k1> whats in jessie-backports?
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1709[12:25:59] <JyZyXEL> not on jessie i can not
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1711[12:26:32] <JyZyXEL> and it is becoming increasingly hard to
do so of course
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1719[12:31:17] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, maybe you should consider
containers?
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1721[12:32:38] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL,
replaced-url
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1722[12:33:07] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: yeah i started looking into
if its possible to run Qemu from within a container
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1724[12:33:45] <mi11k1> thats sounds kind of silly no?
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1728[12:36:26] <mi11k1> whats wrong with the current qemu? sid
has qemu (1:2.5+dfsg-5 and others) and jessie-backports has qemu
(1:2.5+dfsg-4~bpo8+1)
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1730[12:37:05] <JyZyXEL> i have my own compile options that i use
for building qemu
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1732[12:37:23] <JyZyXEL> enables debugging and some experimental
features that i use
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1735[12:37:51] <mi11k1> and it wont build from deb-src easily?
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1736[12:37:53] <nickgaw> Hi, How do I remove build dependencies
that I am finished with for a given package or do I have to remove
them manually?
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1737[12:37:54] <JyZyXEL> i can not develop qemu if i can't
have the latest version to test with
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1740[12:39:08] <mi11k1> you can have it, but youre wanting to
develop with you "stable desktop"
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1743[12:40:02] <wigust> nickgaw, how did you install them?
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1744[12:40:15] <nickgaw> using apt-get build-dep.
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1748[12:42:31] <wigust> nickgaw, then as i know they marked like
manually installed, check this
replaced-url
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1749[12:42:49] <mi11k1> i just use 2 machines most of the time
and use x2x
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1751[12:43:03] <nickgaw> ok i will look at that page.
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1790[12:57:47] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: im thinking a simple chroot
might suffice in this case however
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1806[13:02:54] <wigust> JyZyXEL, chroot is not secure at all
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1809[13:03:11] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, not tried that, but i use xen
for some things and containers are more likely for what you want,
probably.
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1811[13:04:50] <qmr> xen?
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1812[13:04:55] <qmr> 2004 called, they want their shit back
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1814[13:05:13] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: i would run the qemu
container with full access to everything, so i might as well just do
a chroot?
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1820[13:06:05] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, i don't think so. But
delve into containers a bit more.
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1823[13:06:26] <JyZyXEL> what would be the problem?
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1826[13:06:38] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, process separation.
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1829[13:08:21] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: ah, you mean with just a
chroot, all the processes from unstable/sid would appear on my hosts
process list?
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1830[13:08:40] <JyZyXEL> where as Docker would encapsulate all
those inside a Docker process?
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1832[13:08:52] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, basically yes and some worse
things along to that
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1833[13:09:05] <JyZyXEL> worse things?
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1834[13:09:11] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, security.
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1836[13:10:01] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, and also performance once you
contained them.
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1837[13:10:11] <JyZyXEL> it wouldn't be any less secure than
running/building the qemu directly on the Host, like i do now
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1838[13:10:37] <JyZyXEL> performance is better with Docker?
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1842[13:11:49] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, performance is better inside
containers, there is much less overhead then other virtualisation
and easier to contain security. But this is going far to general
inside a chat. I really ure you to delve into it.
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1843[13:12:04] <dutchfish> s/ure/urge
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1845[13:12:17] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: but we were talking about
chroot vs Docker
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1847[13:12:32] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, forget chroot for what you
want.
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1850[13:12:55] <JyZyXEL> i don't think there would be much
performance difference, other than from the fact that Docker
encapsulates everything into one process
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1851[13:13:21] <JyZyXEL> that of course causes a performance
difference because of the host scheduler
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1852[13:13:28] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, there is a reason why
containers are pretty well supported inside the kernel, also read
about openstack.
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1854[13:14:43] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, read the fine manuals, and
ask in here if you have specific questions when it comes to the
debian side of things.
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1855[13:15:29] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, it is however a ferm read ;)
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1859[13:16:28] <JyZyXEL> alternatively i could just make static
builds of qemu inside a unstable/sid chroot and run them on jessie
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1860[13:17:10] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, for experiments that would
do, but don't deply that life. My 2 cents.
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1862[13:17:18] <dutchfish> deploy*
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1865[13:18:36] <JyZyXEL> that way i wouldn't need to run
qemu from a chroot or a container and there would be no overhead
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1868[13:19:21] <JyZyXEL> though im not sure if there even would
be any overhead if i simply run the resulting build straight from
the chroot
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1869[13:19:30] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, to my humble opinion, you are
asking for big trouble on the next point upgrade. You have been
warned.
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1871[13:20:22] <JyZyXEL> *shrug* hows so? i don't see why
any of this would affect point upgrades?
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1876[13:24:56] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, think it over and delve into
the alternatives i and others have pointed out. It won't hurt
to extend your knowledge about the possibilities and how to coop
with containment and security. I have to leave it there for now.
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1877[13:28:02] <JyZyXEL> why would i care about that for a system
that is only used to build/run Qemu
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1878[13:28:25] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, thats a question i can not
answer for you.
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1879[13:28:35] <JyZyXEL> neither can i
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1880[13:29:20] <JyZyXEL> i simply have no use for advanced
containment and security features in this scenario
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1881[13:29:34] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, it depends on your final goal
for it.
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1885[13:34:11] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, furthermore KVM/Qemu is nice,
but hairy if you want bleading edge on a stable system.
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1887[13:35:43] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: and that is exactly why im
setting up a sid/unstable chroot/container so i can get the
bleeding-edge Qemu + libvirt(possibly)
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1888[13:36:39] <JyZyXEL> it does get way hairy when trying to
figure out how to do this on jessie
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1889[13:36:46] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, you prolly end up with a
newer kernel, lots of things backporting if possible at all. But let
me know how it went.
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1890[13:37:01] <mi11k1> what are you using for container?
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1891[13:37:04] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: i've already been
running jessie with backported kernel for years
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1892[13:37:45] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, fair enough.
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1895[13:38:48] <mi11k1> im going to try and build qemu in a few
mins n a jessie vm, just for fun
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1896[13:39:00] <JyZyXEL> mi11k1: ill start by debootstrapping a
sid/unstable chroot and build&install Qemu in there and then try
to run it from there as well
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1897[13:39:30] <mi11k1> im kinda new, i dont fully understand how
debootstraping works
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1898[13:39:57] <mi11k1> i was looking into it cause i have a p4 i
wanted to try some stuff with
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1899[13:40:10] <dutchfish> mi11k1,
replaced-url
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1900[13:40:14] <mi11k1> i needed isolation
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1901[13:40:17] <Rephlexie> ^
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1903[13:40:57] <mi11k1> oh, i followed that stuff
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1905[13:41:14] <JyZyXEL> yesterday i was looking into running
this stable host on top of the Qubes OS :)
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1906[13:41:27] <mi11k1> but it was doing way to much work, and i
didnt kniw if thats what i wanted
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1907[13:41:59] <mi11k1> i wish docker ran on i386
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1910[13:43:31] <mi11k1> "A reasonably secure operating
system" best slogan ever
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1915[13:46:23] <mi11k1> that qubes thing looks kinda neat
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1919[13:47:15] <zZap-X> i have a old Apple Powerbook G4 PPC. and
Debian Jessie is installed on it
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1920[13:47:31] <zZap-X> i have installed i3 window manager,
however, it keeps on booting into XFCE
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1921[13:47:37] <zZap-X> how can one fix this
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1922[13:47:45] <mi11k1> .xinitrc?
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1923[13:47:51] <mi11k1> what dm ?
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1925[13:48:11] <zZap-X> i want it to boot into i3 wm
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1926[13:48:21] <mi11k1> what display manager?
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1928[13:48:25] <mi11k1> lightdm?
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1929[13:48:30] <zZap-X> i am not sure
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1930[13:48:36] <zZap-X> i did a default xfce install
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1931[13:48:42] <zZap-X> when i installed it
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1932[13:48:56] <zZap-X> is there a way to check
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1933[13:48:57] <mi11k1> check to see if you have a file in your
home called .xinitrc
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1934[13:49:01] <zZap-X> ok
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1935[13:49:22] <mi11k1> whats the exec for i3? i3-session?
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1936[13:49:27] <zZap-X> i dont have that file
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1937[13:49:38] <mi11k1> make it, and put i3
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1938[13:49:50] <zZap-X> oh is that all
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1940[13:49:51] <Ingvix> anyone with owncloud? After editing
config.php should I restart some services or does it refresh things
on its own?
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1941[13:50:12] <mi11k1> zZap-X, maybe
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1942[13:50:37] <mi11k1> you might have to tweak something else
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1943[13:50:45] <mi11k1> does it autologin?
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1944[13:51:02] <zZap-X> i type my username and pw then xfce loads
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1945[13:51:11] <zZap-X> .xinitrc i3 didnt work
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1947[13:51:20] <mi11k1> isnt there a button on the top right to
pick your wm?
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1949[13:51:31] <zZap-X> on xfce?
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1950[13:51:51] <mi11k1> usually when you put in your name and
pass you can select desktop enviro
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1951[13:52:00] <zZap-X> oh lets check
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1952[13:52:29] <zZap-X> oh you clever sod, there is :D
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1953[13:52:39] <zZap-X> excellent
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1954[13:52:40] <mi11k1> oh geeze, lol
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1955[13:52:48] <zZap-X> debian is the only decent PPC distro left
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1956[13:53:06] <zZap-X> i dont use linux desktops much
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1957[13:53:11] <zZap-X> just console only
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1958[13:53:21] <mi11k1> thats all i use now
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1959[13:53:38] <zZap-X> ace
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1962[13:53:44] <zZap-X> i3 will be super nice on a g4
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1963[13:53:49] <mi11k1> the only thing i truly miss is adobe
products
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1964[13:54:18] <zZap-X> i have a mac for that stuff
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1965[13:54:35] <mi11k1> i used too, spilled water on it
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1966[13:54:41] <mi11k1> intel pro
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1968[13:54:45] <zZap-X> aye
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1969[13:55:00] <mi11k1> its such biotch installing that os though
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1970[13:55:37] <zZap-X> i generally use slackware for most stuff
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1971[13:55:46] <mi11k1> it takes forever, and no more ntfs
support and no x windows kinda sucks
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1972[13:55:46] <zZap-X> but no PPC support
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1973[13:56:04] <mi11k1> withough the runaaround anyways
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1974[13:56:27] <zZap-X> windows for games, mac for adobe, linux
for servers
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1975[13:56:34] <mi11k1> hahah, true that
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1976[13:56:46] <mi11k1> mac hardware is niiice too
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1977[13:57:06] <mi11k1> the power plug idea was ace
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1978[13:57:09] <zZap-X> aye, this powerbook G4 is lovely, nice
non-glossy screen and comfy keyboard
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1979[13:57:35] <zZap-X> its a bit slow for websites but perfect
for console only
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1980[13:57:45] <mi11k1> batter lasted longer than my friggin cell
almost
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1981[13:57:51] <zZap-X> and hibernate works on it
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1982[13:58:05] <mi11k1> yah, this java stuff crushes everything
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1988[13:59:16] <mi11k1> speedtest.net is the best cpu crusher of
all time
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1990[13:59:44] <x-fak> hi
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1991[13:59:58] <x-fak> mi11k1 , why?
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1995[14:00:23] <mi11k1> i dunno, it kills my resources
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1997[14:00:58] <markybob> that's why there's
speedtest-cli package in debian
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1999[14:01:20] <mi11k1> wha wha wha what????
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2000[14:01:31] <mi11k1> you dont say
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2002[14:01:40] <markybob> i believe i did say it
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2004[14:02:00] <mi11k1> welll, everybody knows that markybob.
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2006[14:02:22] <mi11k1> its in the repo?
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2007[14:02:33] <markybob> yes
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2008[14:02:49] <x-fak> mi11k1 , yeah i've been told that
there is a CLI speedtest package here
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2011[14:02:56] <mi11k1> sweeeet!
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2012[14:03:13] <x-fak> it's very handy to test on a
dedicated server with no graphic interface
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2013[14:03:31] <markybob> x-fak: yeah. i told you that :P the
other day
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2015[14:03:39] <mi11k1> sure is in there
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2017[14:04:01] <markybob> ,v speedtest-cli
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2018[14:04:02] <judd> Package: speedtest-cli on amd64 -- jessie:
0.3.1-1; sid: 0.3.4-1; stretch: 0.3.4-1
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2019[14:04:07] <markybob> yes
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2022[14:05:45] <x-fak> markybob , yeah right ty:)
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2025[14:06:25] <x-fak> markybob in the meantime someone here told
me how to install a graphic desktop and connect with VNC
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2026[14:06:39] <x-fak> the quality is ugly and slow but works
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2027[14:06:43] <zZap-X> is there a way to apt-get remove debian
splash screen graphics?
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2028[14:06:46] <mi11k1> well, there it is,
replaced-url
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2030[14:07:21] <markybob> zZap-X: debian by default doesn't
have "splash" screen
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2031[14:07:37] <zZap-X> my login manager shows a picture of
debian 8
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2032[14:07:48] <zinx> you can configure your display manager
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2033[14:07:52] <markybob> that's not a splash screen. dear
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2035[14:07:54] <x-fak> mi11k1
replaced-url
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2036[14:07:57] <zZap-X> oh ok
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2038[14:08:26] <markybob> jesus christ
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2039[14:08:30] <markybob> that's fast
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2040[14:08:36] <mi11k1> nice one bud
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2042[14:08:59] <mi11k1> im at my grampas though, hes 80, noy bad
for old man inet
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2044[14:09:46] <x-fak> mi11k1 , yeah that's decent, is it
VDSL?
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2045[14:09:54] <mi11k1> no coax
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2048[14:10:17] <x-fak> coaxial? by cable provider?
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2049[14:10:18] <zZap-X> markybob: is my login manager called gdm
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2053[14:10:35] <mi11k1> its capped, i have same service $100 can
for unlimted 50down 10up
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2054[14:10:37] <zinx> zZap-X: if gdm is running, then probably
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2055[14:10:41] <markybob> zZap-X: if you use gnome it's
probably gdm3.
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2056[14:10:50] <zZap-X> i am using xfce
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2059[14:11:11] <markybob> zZap-X: default for xfce is lightdm
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2060[14:11:20] <zZap-X> right ok thanks
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2061[14:11:53] <mi11k1> x-fak, vnc isnt too bad, depends on some
stuff
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2062[14:12:28] <x-fak> mi11k1 i've also tried X-forwarding
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2063[14:12:31] <x-fak> it's damn slow
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2064[14:12:48] <mi11k1> its faster than xforwarding
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2065[14:12:57] <mi11k1> rdp is not bad
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2066[14:13:00] <zinx> just ugly
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2068[14:13:39] <mi11k1> i dont like using it, but when i do,
sometimes i cant tell and get all messed up if its in fullscreen
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2073[14:16:02] <mi11k1> x-fak, heres a script i use to for
quicky,
replaced-url
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2074[14:16:18] <mi11k1> you just need xvfb and x11vnc packages
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2077[14:17:22] <x-fak> use for quicky? what do you mean?
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2079[14:17:47] <mi11k1> no setup, it uses framebuffer
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2080[14:18:23] <mi11k1> it doesnt need a running desktop
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2081[14:18:29] <x-fak> ok i keep this script at hand, could be
useful
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2082[14:18:47] <mi11k1> just change it to whatever wm you want
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2092[14:24:21] <Bert_2> Is it possible that
replaced-url
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2095[14:26:48] <viileppi> even vesa driver fails on my fresh
install (P2/ati rage pro/lxde)
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2098[14:28:09] <viileppi> i get the grub screen with some glitch
on the top
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2099[14:28:34] <mi11k1> cause drivers arent even loaded yet i
guess
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2100[14:29:20] <mi11k1> im happy if just my grub screen has some
glitch
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2101[14:29:20] <viileppi> hmm i did try to istall them but
apt-get said they were already installed
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2103[14:29:49] <mi11k1> its the grub screen, nothing has loaded
yet
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2104[14:30:14] <mi11k1> theres probably something you can change
though
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2107[14:31:40] <mi11k1> check /boot/grub/grub.cfg maybe
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2108[14:31:55] <viileppi> i'm ssh'ing trough this very
system
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2109[14:32:14] <viileppi> from tty1
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2110[14:32:27] <MaBunny> hey guys,so do you remember the problem
i had which made my windows black??
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2111[14:32:40] <mi11k1> haha
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2112[14:32:47] <MaBunny> a guy on #gnome told me to read this
webpage
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2113[14:32:54] <MaBunny>
replaced-url
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2114[14:32:56] <mi11k1> im guessing you donyt remeber and it
hapend again
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2116[14:33:23] <mi11k1> holy, this keyboard is not my friend
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2117[14:33:25] <MaBunny> so,i didnt had the time previously but i
thought to give it a try so
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2118[14:34:06] <mi11k1> reinstall windows
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2119[14:34:17] <markybob> Bert_2: that is the worst wiki
i've ever seen on debian.org. i'm editing it now
because...fuck
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2121[14:34:34] <mi11k1> haha
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2122[14:35:14] <MaBunny> can anyone tell me where to find the
file specified in this webpage from where im copying:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
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2126[14:37:50] <MaBunny> i believe ive to change the
"sna" to "AccelMethod" in tht file to make my
computer usable over long hours
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2128[14:38:23] <MaBunny> i mean keeping it on for a night and
then using it in the morning
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2133[14:39:39] <MaBunny> im a lazy guy :P
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2134[14:40:28] <mi11k1> cant you just tell the powermanager to do
that?
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2152[14:48:14] <MaBunny> guys??
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2157[14:49:56] <bazhang> MaBunny, a two second google showed the
location
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2158[14:50:15] <MaBunny> Hehe,srry
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2159[14:50:21] <bazhang> np
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2162[14:50:46] <MaBunny> i was studying too,so wanted a quick
answer :)
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2163[14:51:23] <markybob> google's pretty fucking quick. we
have lives and are doing other shit. google doesn't
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2171[14:56:39] <MaBunny>
replaced-url
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2173[14:57:18] <MaBunny> Here it says to create a file
"/usr/share/X11...." and add stuff
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2174[14:57:33] <MaBunny> is tht wht you said about bazhang??
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2184[15:05:02] <MaBunny> ok done
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2190[15:07:28] <DrDaemonEye> markybob: I would argue that
google's life is to make our lives easier.
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2192[15:08:01] <DrDaemonEye> but, you are indeed right.
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2193[15:08:17] <zykotick9> DrDaemonEye: that's funny... more
like "google's life is to know everything about you, so
they can sell that information"...
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2194[15:08:50] <DrDaemonEye> hehe, that too
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2312[16:18:36] <devster31> hi guys, what could be the reason I
can lsusb and lshw an usb hard drive but I can't lsblk it and
therefore cannot mount it?
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2315[16:20:03] <frostschutz> devster31, dmesg after you plug it
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2332[16:25:14] <devster31>
replaced-url
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2335[16:25:38] <stoned> see if you get anything
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2341[16:26:18] <devster31>
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drive is /dev/sdb, both already present
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2369[16:33:57] <alexis> jmcnaught: yes, that's what I want
:)
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2370[16:34:13] <alexis> jmcnaught: (to have the package included
in debian)
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2386[16:39:36] <alexis> jmcnaught: Thanks for the pointer,
I've already read that but I'm kinda stuck when it comes
to find the best (recommended?) tools for python packaging
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2408[16:48:52] <John> hi all
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2440[17:07:08] <jackcom> cat < myfile.txt == cat myfile.txt ??
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2455[17:11:06] <viileppi> is there a way to submit paste
somewhere from commandline?
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2459[17:12:47] <John> binpaste
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2460[17:12:56] <LtL> !tell viileppi about pastebinit
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2462[17:12:58] <viileppi> neither vesa, ati or r128 drivers
don't seem to work :/
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2466[17:15:59] <viileppi>
replaced-url
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2473[17:19:03] <viileppi> i only have this box here with
networking and my smartphone
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2475[17:19:47] <viileppi> and i also forgot how to copy/paste
with screen lol
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2480[17:21:46] <jml2> viileppi, you do do ctl-a, '?' ,
it'll show the shortcut list
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2487[17:25:14] <prussian> viileppi: sprung.us; `alias
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replaced-url
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2495[17:30:06] <brelod> ls
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2497[17:30:23] <Guest48292> hi
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2502[17:31:28] <afernandez_> hi
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2503[17:32:06] <cmhobbs> when i close the lid to my netbook, it
suspends the computer. i'm not sure which program is doing
that, though i initially set it up in xfce. is there a wm/de
independent way to have it also lock my screen with i3lock, slock,
xscreensaver, or whatever?
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2507[17:33:15] <Ruff> why do the filter of weechat don't
work in this chan?
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2509[17:33:47] <brelod2> hey
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2511[17:34:48] <cmhobbs> i'm a bit onfused because
logind.conf has everything commented out
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2513[17:36:57] <hiya> how can I open the bottom notification bar?
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2522[17:43:01] <eth0ghost> If you are using i3 install
xfce4-power-manager
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2523[17:43:08] <eth0ghost> use that to govern your suspends
etc...
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2524[17:43:23] <eth0ghost> cmhobbs: ^
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2526[17:43:37] <cmhobbs> eth0ghost: good call
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2527[17:43:39] <cmhobbs> i'll look into that
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2534[17:44:54] <raspberrypifan> so i have a bit of tricky
situation. I have a cloud server that has debian on it but the
install is quite bad. I wanna bring in my own debian version but im
restricted by their system. I have been told that i can load a
debian image stored in /boot and then use grub to boot it. The issue
is that the boot partiton is only 150mb and the debian netinstall
install is over 250. Can i just split up the importa
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2535[17:44:54] <raspberrypifan> nt bits
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2539[17:46:07] <eth0ghost> cmhobbs: Thats what I do with i3.
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2578[18:04:58] <_0xbad_antergos> askjdas
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2579[18:05:00] <_0xbad_antergos> ok
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2581[18:05:24] <_0xbad_antergos> I want to mount another device
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2582[18:05:43] <_0xbad_antergos> but I already have one mounted
at /mnt/
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2583[18:05:50] <_0xbad_antergos> what can I do=
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2584[18:05:52] <_0xbad_antergos> ?
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2589[18:08:54] <afernandez_> _0xbad_antergos: create another
mount point
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2590[18:09:19] <afernandez_> mkdir -p /mnt/mnt2
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2597[18:12:46] <Aleksandar86> I installed Debian 8.4.0 first ISO.
I want Install another 2 DVD ISO and I need help how to do without
optics from USB?
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2598[18:13:36] <unborn> afternoon all :)
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2599[18:14:21] <TomTomTosch> Aleksandar86: only the first dvd
contains the installer. the other ones only have additional
packages.
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2600[18:14:43] <Aleksandar86> I install first DVD from USB
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2602[18:14:55] <Aleksandar86> but how to install another two
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2603[18:14:57] <Aleksandar86> ?
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2604[18:14:59] <jml2> Aleksandar86, you can use apt-cdrom to add
cd's as repo resources
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2605[18:15:01] <TomTomTosch> doesn't matter if it's
from usb or dvd.
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2607[18:15:32] <Aleksandar86> jml2 are you think, I must mount
iso?
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2609[18:15:47] <jml2> Aleksandar86, i forget how to use .iso as
resources.. that could be tricky, but there should be ways to do it
--(google)
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2610[18:16:02] <jml2> Aleksandar86, how fast is your internet?
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2611[18:16:13] <Aleksandar86> 4mbit download
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2612[18:16:36] <jml2> Aleksandar86, if you can afford to download
3 DVD's it's much more affordable just to use net repos
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2613[18:16:50] <Aleksandar86> If I split 3 ISO in one can I
install all from USB?
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2614[18:17:14] <jml2> Aleksandar86, but those isoz won't be
good for more than a couple weeks, packages are always getting
updated..
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2615[18:17:26] <MaBunny> hey guys i had tried installing debian
8.4 on a sandisk 64 gb pendrive
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2616[18:17:31] <jml2> Aleksandar86, so unless you really dont
have internet available, it's a good way to use .isoz..
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2617[18:17:41] <MaBunny> heres the product:
replaced-url
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2618[18:17:47] <MaBunny> srry for tht
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2621[18:18:26] <MaBunny> so previously when i had tried plugging
it into the system,it worked
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2622[18:18:33] <Aleksandar86> jml2 does another 2 ISO's
include some new drivers?
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2623[18:18:48] <MaBunny> but now it doesnt even come up in the
devices list
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2625[18:19:14] <MaBunny> is there any package tht is required for
tht particular hardware or something???
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2627[18:19:43] <jml2> Aleksandar86, no, that would be found
whatever comes with the first CD
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2629[18:20:01] <jml2> Aleksandar86, if you're missing
firmware drivers --- you would want the non-free unofficial isoz..
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2631[18:20:14] <jml2> Aleksandar86, (
replaced-url
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2634[18:21:20] <jml2> Aleksandar86, or if you installed with the
official, but still can get online, and still need non-free,
you'll need to add non-free repos, then install them
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2635[18:21:40] <jml2> Aleksandar86, (the official isoz don't
come with all the firmwares, as some are in non-free)
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2636[18:21:42] <jml2> !non-free
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2637[18:21:43] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains
software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free
packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free
sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me
about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see
replaced-url
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2638[18:21:48] <MaBunny> when i plug my ext hard disk into a
particular usb plug,it works
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2639[18:22:19] <MaBunny> but when i plug the pendrive into tht
same usb slot,it doesnt
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2642[18:24:16] <jml2> MaBunny, try a short usb extension -- here
i use it and it helps
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2644[18:24:30] <jml2> MaBunny, but one over a foot would likely
cause problems
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2645[18:24:47] <MaBunny> what is a short usb extension??
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2646[18:24:55] <MaBunny> my hardware is 2007 era
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2647[18:25:01] <jml2> MaBunny, the other is of course
there's nothing valid on the usb itself
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2649[18:25:13] <jml2> MaBunny, so that's a very old usb
stick..
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2651[18:25:21] <MaBunny> but what is a usb extension??
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2652[18:25:27] <jml2> MaBunny, maybe the electronics are going
bad, or it could be a dying usb port
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2653[18:25:27] <MaBunny> you mean a wire??
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2654[18:25:39] <jml2> MaBunny, yeah, it's a just an empty
usb cable..
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2655[18:25:43] <MaBunny> yeah the usb ports sometimes dont work
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2656[18:25:54] <jml2> MaBunny, it sometimes fixes the
"timing" magic of electronics..
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2658[18:25:56] <MaBunny> tht might be the reason but
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2660[18:26:22] <MaBunny> the usb port on the front works with my
toshiba ext hard drive
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2661[18:26:30] <MaBunny> the pendrive doesnt :(
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2662[18:26:43] <jml2> your hardware is old though.. so i
won't need to speculate too much..
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2663[18:26:43] <MaBunny> ok ill look for them :)
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2666[18:26:54] <MaBunny> yeah
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2667[18:26:56] <jml2> here i don't have systems older than 5
years old :)
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2668[18:27:02] <MaBunny> haha
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2669[18:27:16] <jml2> i only change them when they start acting
up -- which often happens around their 4th year
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2671[18:27:28] <MaBunny> ok...but can you maybe point to a link
where i could find them,maybe newegg
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2672[18:27:38] <MaBunny> flipkart might not hav them
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2673[18:27:45] <MaBunny> yeah
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2674[18:27:57] <jml2> MaBunny, i highly recommend (by my own
experience of course duh), "lexar jump drives"
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2675[18:28:05] <jml2> MaBunny, they come in 4,8, 16..
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2676[18:28:09] <jml2> MaBunny, gb..
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2677[18:28:24] <jml2> MaBunny, they seem to work on most things i
try them with --
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2678[18:28:27] <MaBunny> what are lexar jump drives...you mean
pendrives??
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2679[18:28:32] <jml2> MaBunny, and "boot" works with
them very good
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2680[18:28:41] <jml2> MaBunny, that's the brand.. you said
"newegg"
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2681[18:28:45] <jml2> MaBunny, eh!
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2682[18:28:47] <MaBunny> yeah
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2683[18:28:48] <jml2> MaBunny, go shop!
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2684[18:28:52] <MaBunny> haha
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2685[18:29:09] <MaBunny> ok..ill search for them :)
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2686[18:29:16] <Nullifi3d> MaBunny:
replaced-url
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2687[18:29:22] <jml2> MaBunny, caveat though..
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2690[18:29:38] <jml2> MaBunny, if you're going for a usb2
stick, go for a usb2 stick
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2691[18:29:39] <Nullifi3d> MaBunny:
replaced-url
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2692[18:29:40] <MaBunny> ok thnx for tht jml2 :)
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2694[18:30:14] <jml2> MaBunny, the pins dont perfectly align with
usb3 sticks very well in tact.. and sometimes you have to tinkle
with the connection a bit --- this is why I had to buy a usb3 or
usb2 short extension so not to worry about this
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2696[18:30:29] <jml2> MaBunny, such extensions cost just a couple
bucks but avoid much hassle
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2697[18:30:55] <MaBunny> yeah...they dont look costly
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2698[18:31:15] <jml2> MaBunny, they come in 3 inches..
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2699[18:31:28] <jml2> MaBunny, not sure if you can find them, but
with the right search they're easy to find
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2700[18:31:33] <MaBunny> ok...the shorter the better ;)
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2703[18:32:10] <jml2> MaBunny, i think 6-inch
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2705[18:32:21] <MaBunny> hehe
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2706[18:32:23] <jml2> MaBunny, you should be able to see many
listed online
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2707[18:32:37] <jml2> MaBunny, here i order for usb3 and usb2 ...
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2708[18:32:50] <MaBunny> ok...any of them will work,nah???
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2710[18:33:06] <jml2> MaBunny, its not only for ensuring a good
connection -- but it also serves helping to fix the magic timing
between some usb sticks..
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2713[18:33:39] <jml2> MaBunny, no.. i mean if your motherboard is
"usb2" -- you can go for either usb3 or usb2 extensions
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2714[18:33:58] <jml2> MaBunny, the way usb3 sticks are built at
the edge is not 110% perfect ;-)
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2715[18:34:01] <MaBunny> ok
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2716[18:34:10] <jml2> MaBunny, I get both "just in
case"
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2717[18:34:17] <MaBunny> haha
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2718[18:34:34] <jml2> MaBunny, here 99% the time usb3 extensions
i use wherever possible, even with usb2 ports i have no problem..
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2719[18:34:43] <jml2> MaBunny, depending on the motherboard usb
ports
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2723[18:35:31] <MaBunny> my motherboard has usb2 ports....so usb2
could be more practical
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2724[18:35:43] <jml2> MaBunny, but also consider that your
hardware --- your PC too is 2007? is also very aged..
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2725[18:35:44] <MaBunny> but my ext hard disk is usb3...so
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2726[18:35:52] <MaBunny> :D
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2727[18:36:01] <MaBunny> yeah
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2728[18:36:05] <MaBunny> thts true
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2729[18:36:15] <jml2> MaBunny, if the "usb" panel is
replaceable, you might have better electronics (newer
capacitors/resistors) making the ports like new again
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2733[18:36:58] <jml2> usb3 from 2007 ?
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2734[18:37:00] <MaBunny> yeah...but tht could hav to wait till
nxt month...i am on a budget :P
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2735[18:37:19] <MaBunny> no...ext hard disk was bought in 2013/14
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2736[18:37:21] <MaBunny> maybe
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2738[18:37:32] <MaBunny> i dont remember...but its recent
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2739[18:37:49] <jml2> ok so its not a "flash stick"
then
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2741[18:38:01] <MaBunny> flash stick???
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2743[18:38:18] <jml2> MaBunny, it has power plug?
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2745[18:38:24] <catalincc> hi, i'm new to ibm servers, can
you please tell me what is the equivalent of hp asm in IBM ? I want
to read the post errors, the server failures from CLI in redhat
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2746[18:38:26] <jml2> MaBunny, if it does i suggest to use it
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2747[18:38:47] <MaBunny> no...its just plug and copy/paste
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2748[18:38:56] <MaBunny> no power plug i guess
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2752[18:39:00] <jml2> MaBunny, but you could also make use of
those usb extensions for pretty much any storage that could use them
--
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2753[18:39:10] <MaBunny> yeah
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2758[18:39:58] <jml2> MaBunny, so there's no
"optional" AC pin anywhere?
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2759[18:40:07] <MaBunny> no
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2761[18:40:11] <jml2> MaBunny, sometimes power adapters need to
be bough separately
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2762[18:40:39] <MaBunny> oh...you mean for when the power goes
off and it keeps safe from data loss??
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2764[18:41:02] <jml2> MaBunny, no i mean sometimes USB devices
(especially non-flash), can require more power than the market
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2765[18:41:19] <MaBunny> idk
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2766[18:41:19] <jml2> MaBunny, ./than they advertise -- on what
is supported by the usb port
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2767[18:41:35] <jml2> MaBunny, i have a few devices where the AC
pin -- fixes the drive working
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2769[18:41:47] <jml2> MaBunny, i got stubborn usb3 devices here
:)
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2770[18:41:54] <MaBunny> oh...i understand tht
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2771[18:41:58] <MaBunny> yeah
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2772[18:42:35] <jml2> MaBunny, another venue of course is you can
get a usb3 adapter card
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2773[18:42:47] <MaBunny> yeah
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2774[18:42:54] <jml2> MaBunny, now if you are booting, i
don't know if your bios would expand its usb boot capabilties
to use that.. but its possible
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2775[18:43:11] <jml2> MaBunny, so keep this in mind
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2776[18:43:17] <MaBunny> yeah
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2777[18:43:33] <jml2> MaBunny, if you probably want to play more
safe, you can get a usb2 expansion card
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2778[18:44:07] <jml2> MaBunny, or if your motherboard has an
"unused" usb2 expansion node -- you could just buy the
"usb bracket" -- which shouuld be cheaper
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2779[18:44:07] <MaBunny> whats tht???
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2781[18:44:28] <MaBunny> ok i understand
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2782[18:44:31] <jml2> MaBunny, if you look at your motherboard,
there would be a "usb" connector or a
"front-panel" connector..
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2784[18:44:45] <jml2> MaBunny, sometimes there are
"extra" usb nodes on the motherboard not used
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2785[18:44:53] <jml2> MaBunny, and you can plug a usb
"bracket"
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2786[18:45:04] <jml2> MaBunny, meaning you just get "usb
ports" and no electronics on a bracket
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2787[18:45:16] <MaBunny> no i dont have them...but i could update
my usb extension card
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2790[18:45:30] <x-fak> i want to install midori package but it
says that it's not found into repository, here is my
/etc/apt/source.list:
replaced-url
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2792[18:45:31] <MaBunny> its old and dusty
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2793[18:45:46] <zinx> just beware, some are 10 pin, some are 2x 5
pin, and some are 9 pin (they omit one shield pin - you can't
use a connector that doesn't also omit it with them)
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2794[18:46:07] <MaBunny> i dont think a lot of things in my
hardware can be updated
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2795[18:46:20] <jml2> MaBunny, but the "usb bracket"
solution does not update anything :)
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2796[18:46:20] <MaBunny> i mean i do think
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2798[18:46:45] <MaBunny> i hav extra ram slots
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2801[18:47:04] <jml2> MaBunny, you'll have to check your
motherboard manual, and check your board to see if there are any
unused usb nodes..
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2802[18:47:34] <jml2> MaBunny, you'll save money and
potentially fix your issue because it's just possible the
electronics on the other usb panels are "worn out"
electronically :)
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2803[18:47:44] <MaBunny> its just tht my hardware is second
hand,bought from my dads office...and i dont kno its motherboard
name or other things
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2804[18:48:08] <jml2> MaBunny, and also of course this is
trial-and-error.. but to minimize costs, you can always try it with
the usb bracket (and that is of course there is a spare)
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2805[18:48:13] <MaBunny> yeah...but i hav to 'kno' my
hardware ;)
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2806[18:49:19] <MaBunny> my dad doesnt understand this geek
stuff...he just buys this and tht and tells an experienced person to
assemble it
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2807[18:49:23] <jml2> MaBunny, if you use dmidecode that can
indicate the motherboard
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2809[18:49:33] <MaBunny> yeah...
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2811[18:49:51] <MaBunny> ok i really forgot about tht but i had
done it b4
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2812[18:49:58] <MaBunny> :D
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2816[18:50:10] <MaBunny> ill remember tht
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2823[18:51:09] <jml2> MaBunny, also if you have a problematic usb
device connected that can also interfere with this usb disk
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2825[18:51:31] <MaBunny> no i dont think tht could be the cause
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2826[18:51:35] <jml2> MaBunny, not many consider that, but that
too is a possibility
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2830[18:52:03] <jml2> MaBunny, usb is cheap tech :) -- it's
a shared-bus system.. multiple usb ports share the same bus
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2835[18:52:57] <jml2> MaBunny, to mitigate such issues, -- is
also going with the idea that the usb bracket thing might actually
be going to another bus -- posibly -- i'm not a hardware geek
on this, but this is possible
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2836[18:53:07] <jml2> good l.. gtg smthing..
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2860[19:00:53] <password2> hi
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2862[19:01:10] <password2> how do i install 32bit libs on debian
64bit?
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2865[19:01:42] <eth0ghost> password just make multiarch
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2868[19:01:55] <password2> i have multiarch apparently
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2873[19:02:23] <eth0ghost> dpkg --add-architecture <arch>
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2875[19:02:23] * dpkg gets an architect to start planning a new
hurd-i386 chipset
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2876[19:02:36] <eth0ghost> then sudo apt-get update
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2877[19:02:43] <password2> i did
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2879[19:03:22] <password2> unless none of the packages i need
exist
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2880[19:03:48] <password2> these are the packages i try to
install libc6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386 libstdc++6:i386
libexpat1:i386
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2888[19:07:21] <password2> i used dpkg --add-architecture i386 ,
is that correct?
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2929[19:20:10] <password2> am i missing something?
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2940[19:22:29] <x-fak> is it normal that my web server appears
into ipv6 and not ipv4 into netstat -an ?
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2948[19:24:48] <MaBunny> hey jml2 are you there pal??
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2949[19:25:17] <MaBunny> i type "$ dmidecode" in my
terminal but it doesnt run,the command
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2951[19:25:31] <MaBunny> do i hav to use su??i read the man pages
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2954[19:25:41] <sterndata_> Anyone using WeeChat in here?
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2956[19:26:40] <MaBunny> ok it runs in su
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2960[19:27:43] <mtn> MaBunny: you don't want to run weechat
as root
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2963[19:28:28] <sterndata_> mtn: how to I switch channels in
weechat?
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2964[19:28:32] <MaBunny> no...not weechat
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2965[19:28:36] <sterndata_> do*
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2966[19:28:48] <MaBunny> dmidecode :)....im not tht silly
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2967[19:28:52] <mtn> MaBunny: sorry, got you confused with
someone else
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2968[19:28:54] <bla1> hi there. i have installed debian jessie on
my computer a few days ago, and my system freezes quite often (99 %
of the times i run stellarium, maybe 50% of the times i run
iceweasel). my screen shows stange looking diagonal patterns and
does not respond to anything. alt+ctrl+f2 does not give me a
console, and (i asked here about my problem maybe 3 days ago, and
got this advise) alt+system-request does not do anything. last time
i asked here, i wa
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2969[19:28:54] <bla1> Mai 15 19:03:09 debian kernel: nouveau E[
PBUS][0000:00:0d.0] MMIO write of 0x00000000 FAULT at 0x00b010. so
while i am pretty sure that this line correlates to my problem, i
have no idea what it means and what to do with this information.
could somebody help me?
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2971[19:29:15] <mtn> sterndata_: weechat has a manual you can
find online
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2973[19:29:38] <ompaul>
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2974[19:29:44] <CtrlC> where are the debian testing download
links?
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2975[19:29:51] <sterndata_> mtn: yeah, i was looking at it but
can't really find how I can change and list channels in a
server
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2976[19:30:30] <ompaul> sterndata_: that might send you far too
much data and crash your client listing them that is
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2978[19:31:11] <CtrlC> Is there even a download link?
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2979[19:31:23] <sterndata_> ompaul: is there an easy way to just
change and list the channels I've connected to?
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2983[19:31:35] <markybob> CtrlC: you install testing by using the
stable installer and then dist-upgrade
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2984[19:31:53] <CtrlC> No direct dowload link?
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2988[19:32:09] <Rasmusolle>
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2989[19:32:20] <markybob> CtrlC: not that works. there's a
horribly broken installer for testing
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2992[19:32:43] <bla2> hi there, so, i clicked on a link and my
computer froze. so if anybody wrote something addressed to me, it
would be nice if he or she could send the message again.
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2993[19:32:51] <markybob> CtrlC: also read /topic. this
isn't the place for testing support. you'll need to go to
#debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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2995[19:33:00] <CtrlC> uh, can you still direct me to it please?
markeybob
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2996[19:33:06] <CtrlC> oh!
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2998[19:33:21] <CtrlC> Thank you.
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3009[19:37:13] <bla1> my system froze again so if somebody wrote
something for me, i would be happy if this person could write it
again. =)
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3017[19:38:29] <mtn> bla1: looks like a video driver problem.
have you tried using nvidia drivers?
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3019[19:38:40] <Rasmusolle>
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3020[19:38:44] <dD__> From one day to the next, the divisions
disappeared from all of my menus in Debian. They now look like this:
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3021[19:39:43] <mtn> dD__: which version of debian? which
desktop? which video driver?
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3023[19:40:05] <bla1> no. do you know where i can get them and
how to install them or where i can read about it? im not that
expirienced.
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3026[19:40:13] <Bert_2> markybob: well, I don't really use
it as a reference, I have my own example files for shorewall,
it's just that I noticed after a reboot my NAT was broken, it
turned out shorewall just hadn't started because there's
new behaviour due to systemd which isn't documented anywhere
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3027[19:40:37] <mtn> bla1: the debian wiki has a section on
nvidia. good place to start ;)
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3034[19:41:39] <bla1> yeah i just found it, haha. looks like it
gives me a good documentation. thanks, i will read through it.
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3035[19:42:12] <dD__> mtn stretch (with some unstable), gnome,
NVIDIA Corporation GF106M
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3036[19:42:36] <mtn> dD__: ah, you need to go to the correct
channel. read the topic
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3062[19:52:09] <awwal> ,v yowsup-cli
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3063[19:52:10] <judd> Package: yowsup-cli on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 2.4.102-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.4.103-1; sid:
2.4.103-1
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3065[19:53:36] <awwal> guys, any privacy/security about using
'yowsup-cli'?
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3070[19:54:39] <zZap-X> awwal: is that before or after your
account gets banned?
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3072[19:55:10] <markybob> awwal: it should be fine
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3073[19:55:18] <awwal> zZap-X, banned from where?
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3074[19:55:37] <zZap-X> whatsapp?
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3079[19:56:27] <markybob> yowsup is really fucking popular.
he'll be fine
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3080[19:56:48] <markybob> it uses the official whatsapi. yeah,
official
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3082[19:56:55] <zZap-X> i dont mind yowsup but its horrible to
use for sending and recieving messages
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3083[19:57:12] <zZap-X> how can one use backports with jessie?
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3084[19:57:17] <markybob> well then dont FUD
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3087[19:57:37] <awwal> markybob, zZap-X, havent tried it yet or
configured, just installed the pkg. registration in the whatsapp
website/server or something like that is needed , so wondering if
its really safe
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3088[19:57:41] <markybob> zZap-X: you read the instructions like
everything else. backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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3089[19:57:46] <zZap-X> ace
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3090[19:58:02] <grantwu> For apt pinning, should I be using Pin:
release a=testing or n=testing?
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3092[19:58:06] <markybob> awwal: it's fine. really.
don't listen to FUD
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3093[19:58:10] <zZap-X> can using backports cause apt-get hell?
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3094[19:58:33] <awwal> markybob, ok. I may try it so :P
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3095[19:59:05] <markybob> zZap-X: the whole point of it is not
to. don't do something stupid like upgrade -t jessie-backports
and get all the backports. just the ones you need.
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3096[19:59:14] <zZap-X> ok dude
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3097[19:59:42] <zZap-X> so if i activate backports, will it cause
a massive problem with apt-get upgrade
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3098[19:59:54] <zZap-X> or will it only upgrade the backport i
installed if there is a upgrade
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3099[20:00:20] <markybob> no. it only uses backports when you add
-t jessie-backports to apt-get or aptitude
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3100[20:00:46] <markybob> right. it'll upgrade the backport
you had installed if there's a new backport
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3104[20:01:50] <zZap-X> excellent, so apt-get install i3 = from
main. apt-get -t install i3 will be from backports
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3105[20:02:40] <markybob> you forgot to add jessie-backports
after -t but yeah
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3106[20:02:42] <grantwu> aha, n vs a is codename vs archive name
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3107[20:02:44] <sunita> i can access server from the internet but
can not access from the lan .. what could be the problem ?
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3111[20:03:53] <markybob> sunita: first thought would be bad cat5
cable
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3112[20:03:55] <SanchoPensa> yo!
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3113[20:04:07] <markybob> sunita: assuming it worked before and
you didn't change anything
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3114[20:04:15] <SanchoPensa> can you please explain to me, why
removin okular would remove ALL of the KDE desktop?
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3118[20:04:58] <markybob> SanchoPensa: you mean the kde task.
that's not all of kde
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3119[20:05:02] <teraflops> Because deps in cascade
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3120[20:05:02] <SanchoPensa> and: can you please explain, how to
change standard apps in xfce? (i know it is not a debian question
actually, but since i am using xfce on debian...)
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3123[20:05:23] <SanchoPensa> markybob: no, i mean kde-standard
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3127[20:05:54] <markybob> i don't even understand what that
means. what language do you speak natively?
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3128[20:06:09] <markybob> i'm sure there's a channel
for it
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3129[20:06:14] <TomTomTosch> kde-standard is a meta package. it
contains no actual software.
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3130[20:06:34] <jml2> task-kde-desktop
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3131[20:06:35] <SanchoPensa> markybob: do you mean me by that?
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3132[20:06:43] <markybob> yes
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3133[20:06:55] <SanchoPensa> lol? what don't you
understand?!?
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3136[20:07:16] * jml2 says task-kde-desktop is a meta package and can
help to install kde
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3139[20:07:31] <awwal> zZap-X, apt-get -t jessie-backports
install i3
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3140[20:07:34] <TomTomTosch> jml2: so is kde-standard. he was
talking about that.
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3141[20:07:38] <zZap-X> awwal: ace it worked
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3143[20:07:48] <zZap-X> this PPC laptop is now working in 2016 :D
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3144[20:07:59] <Opsoa10> Hi! Do you know how I can change
sound's bass level (i'm using pulseaudio)?
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3145[20:07:59] <zZap-X> time to get i3 working
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3146[20:08:50] <jml2> TomTomTosch, apt-cache show
task-kde-desktop shows you what gets installed.
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3147[20:09:04] <SanchoPensa> jml2: ok, but it does not remove all
of kde, once you remove that meta package?
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3148[20:09:05] <SanchoPensa> here is, what my console just spat
out:
replaced-url
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3149[20:09:10] <TomTomTosch> jml2: i know about that, thx...
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3150[20:09:11] <markybob> jml2: TomTomTosch knows more than you
could dream of.
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3151[20:09:21] <jml2> I think SanchoPensa is asking
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3152[20:09:25] <jml2> markybob, wrong person
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3153[20:09:40] <jml2> I don't care about TomTomTosch i was
never talking to him to begin with :)
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3154[20:09:46] * jml2 *elitism* is futile.
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3155[20:09:50] <jml2> :)
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3156[20:09:55] <TomTomTosch> no worries x)
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3157[20:09:55] <markybob> TomTomTosch: yeah, fuck you, asshole
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3160[20:10:04] <SanchoPensa> haha, oh geez... everybody calm down
please? :D
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3161[20:10:05] <markybob> TomTomTosch: ;)
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3164[20:10:44] <TomTomTosch> cheers :P
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3165[20:10:45] <SanchoPensa> " KDE Plasma Desktop and
standard set of applications" this is what dpkg -l
kde-standard* returns
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3168[20:11:13] <SanchoPensa> so do i get this wrong, or does that
mean basically all of KDE?
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3170[20:11:35] <markybob> SanchoPensa: you got it wrong
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3171[20:11:39] <RoyK> markybob: using a cat5 cable today would be
bad enough ;)
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3173[20:12:18] <jim> is it ok to install (say) the wireless-tools
udeb onto a running debian?
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3175[20:12:32] <markybob> SanchoPensa: 18:06 < TomTomTosch>
kde-standard is a meta package. it contains no actual software.
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3178[20:12:46] <jml2> jim, y what is 'udeb'?
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3181[20:13:12] <jml2> jim, you mentioned that somewhere... never
encountered that (i think kadiro's issue is with wirelesstools)
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3184[20:13:22] <SanchoPensa> markybob: that is the part, that i
did understand, di you understand my follow up question?
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3185[20:13:22] <SanchoPensa> that was, if
"metapackages" are only used to install, but wont
uninstall?
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3188[20:13:42] <markybob> SanchoPensa: that's right.
it'll leave everything in place
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3189[20:13:46] <jim> the udebs on the netinst image are part of
the installer
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3190[20:13:55] <RoyK> jml2: that's the "un-debify"
package, which automatically installs windows 95 on your machine
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3191[20:13:57] <SanchoPensa> markybob: NICE! thanks guys! :)
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3192[20:14:02] <jml2> hmm.. dunno what to do with udeb.. i should
tell him
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3195[20:14:32] <sunita> markybob: cant telnet 10.0.0.60 from same
computer
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3196[20:14:44] <jml2> sunita, wo wo wo
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3197[20:14:45] <sunita> but can access the website from internet
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3198[20:14:46] <jml2> sunita, TELNET?
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3199[20:14:52] <jml2> sunita, you're kidding right?
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3200[20:14:53] <sunita> what may be the problem
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3201[20:15:11] <RoyK> telnet went out of style some 18 years back
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3202[20:15:18] <jml2> sunita, we sure heck came a long way from
the 1980's.. nobody uses "telnet" in #debian
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3203[20:15:21] <jml2> sunita, I HOEP
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3204[20:15:22] <markybob> sunita: i don't really care. you
didn't even answer the basic cat5 question.
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3205[20:15:25] <jml2> sunita, *HOPE*
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3206[20:15:29] <RoyK> !ssh
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3207[20:15:30] <dpkg> [ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude
install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms
include <putty> and <cygwin>. Programs to mitigate
against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include
<fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>,
<sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>,
<sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>,
<dropbear>, <ssh-copy-id>, <ssh verify key>.
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3208[20:15:52] <markybob> sunita: can you ping that ip?
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3209[20:15:54] <jml2> sunita, no hard feelings, ssh does not mean
"shut up" :)
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3211[20:16:05] <jml2> sunita, (apt-get install openssh-server) !
:D
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3212[20:16:47] <markybob> sunita: and like i asked before, did it
work earlier and did you change anything?
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3213[20:17:03] <sunita> telnet 10.0.0.65 443
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3214[20:17:04] <sunita> Trying 10.0.0.65...
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3215[20:17:04] <sunita> Connected to 10.0.0.65.
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3216[20:17:04] <sunita> Escape character is '^]'.
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3217[20:17:04] <sunita> Connection closed by foreign host.
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3219[20:17:06] <markybob> sunita: support requires you to answer
questions that are asked, you see
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3220[20:17:15] <markybob> jesus
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3221[20:17:19] <jml2> haaha what's he doing on port 443?
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3223[20:17:38] <jml2> one uses "openssl" to test
tls/ssl connections
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3224[20:17:43] <jml2> not "telnet"!
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3225[20:17:45] <markybob> he's going on /ignore if he
doesn't start answring questions and just talking out of his
ass
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3229[20:18:31] <ompaul> jml2: well it might be a misdirected mail
server for sekrit port openingz
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3231[20:18:35] <jml2> i think he needs to rtfm if he starts
dumping more pastes like this
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3232[20:18:41] <ompaul> but I don't really think htat
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3233[20:18:43] <ompaul> or that
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3238[20:19:39] <zZap-X> holy cows, does debian wipe /tmp after a
reboot?
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3239[20:19:45] <markybob> of course
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3240[20:19:49] <zZap-X> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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3241[20:19:54] <zZap-X> ive lost everything
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3242[20:20:06] <toruvinn> tmp stands for "temporary"
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3243[20:20:07] <toruvinn> ;-S
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3245[20:20:12] <markybob> well...that's why we have backups
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3246[20:20:19] <zZap-X> NOOOOOOOOO
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3249[20:20:26] <jml2> zZap-X, /tmp is $HOME
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3250[20:20:27] <zZap-X> 10 years of work down the pan
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3251[20:20:38] <markybob> wow. you're fired.
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3257[20:21:05] <jml2> zZap-X, it's what you get when you
vote for /trump
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3258[20:21:09] <jml2> zZap-X, abbreviated
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3259[20:21:16] <TomTomTosch> the line of bad decisions to make
this happen is incredible.
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3261[20:21:22] <zZap-X> lol
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3263[20:21:49] <zZap-X> maybe it should be renamed to /trump
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3264[20:22:03] <jml2> zZap-X, that fired remark from markybob is
purely coincidental fyi
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3265[20:22:12] <jml2> ahem
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3266[20:22:15] <zZap-X> aye up
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3270[20:23:11] <jml2> zZap-X, if you add "2016" you can
make storage in tmp more persistent
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3272[20:23:20] <jml2> zZap-X, tmp->tmp2016
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3274[20:23:35] <markybob> why the fuck
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3275[20:23:39] <jml2> cuse
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3276[20:23:45] <jml2> he's called zZap-X
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3277[20:23:48] <jml2> ahem
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3278[20:23:55] <markybob> dont put shit in tmp that you want to
keep. that simple.
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3279[20:24:22] <SanchoPensa> 10 yrs of work??
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3280[20:24:40] <SanchoPensa> zZap-X: what line of work are you
in, man?
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3282[20:24:50] <jml2> SanchoPensa, temporary apparently
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3285[20:26:04] <zZap-X> SanchoPensa: i was joking, i just lost a
config file
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3286[20:26:34] <markybob> zZap-X: not funny.
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3287[20:26:58] <zZap-X> :D
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3288[20:27:04] <SanchoPensa> roflol. in that case; you deserve it
anyways, if you vote for trump :P
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3291[20:27:40] <markybob> let's leave politics to
#debian-offtopic if you must
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3292[20:27:43] <SanchoPensa> or... is there a correlation? like
in, hey, who votes for trump, is also clever enuff to put stuff into
temp? :D
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3294[20:27:58] <SanchoPensa> markybob: aye, sri! :D
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3297[20:28:37] <SanchoPensa> thanks for the help, guys, see ya
another day. :)
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3303[20:29:49] <toruvinn> jml2, omg that pun
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3306[20:30:07] <jml2> :)
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3309[20:30:18] <jml2> apparently it's so easy to spot a
troll these days
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3310[20:30:36] <password2> troll
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3318[20:33:21] <jml2> the idea is to make them feel more dumber
than they originally try to be :) .. it works :)
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3319[20:33:42] <jml2> password2, yerps!
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3339[20:38:52] <jdoelger> so i have a debian vm running in vmware
fusion, has X, open-vm-tools-desktop and i3 installed; however i
can'
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3340[20:38:56] <jdoelger> sigh
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3342[20:39:08] <jdoelger> i can't get the desktop to resize
and fit the window.
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3344[20:39:55] <TomTomTosch> jdoelger: a good place to ask would
be #vmware
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3346[20:40:11] <jdoelger> TomTomTosch: yeah i guess that's
probably a better idea :P
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3349[20:42:26] <jml2> jdoelger, vmware fusion is only avail on
mac osx
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3351[20:42:51] <jml2> jdoelger, if you install vmware
"guest" tools -- whatever documentation you have with
vmwrae support, you should then later see if you can use
"xrandr"
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3352[20:43:06] <jml2> jdoelger, or resize the desktop res from
the desktop interface (in the vm of course)
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3353[20:43:17] <jml2> jdoelger, the "guest" tools from
debian might work
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3354[20:43:52] <jdoelger> jml2: okay, i'll check that out.
thanks!
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3356[20:45:02] <jml2> jdoelger, it's an opensource edition,
though dunno how well it works -- but if it doesn't you'll
have to possibly use vmware's tarball things
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3360[20:45:53] <jdoelger> jml2: i can change the resolution with
xrandr, i guess i'll try vmware's tools and see if that
will do auto-resize
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3361[20:46:12] <jdoelger> i guess i really only need to have it
full-screen
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3362[20:46:18] <TomTomTosch> i3wm doesn't resize for you.
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3363[20:46:49] <jml2> jdoelger, yeah that'll do auto-resize
-- if you add the vmware "guest" tools -- i can see if
there's anything of vmware guest tools in debian's repos
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3367[20:48:21] <jml2> jdoelger, not sure, there are
"vmw" related modules -- maybe you can research this
online
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3368[20:48:44] <jml2> jdoelger, -- dunno if that accounts for
guest tools -- i dont think there are any "packages" for
this, but there's definitely modules related to vmware
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3369[20:49:19] <jdoelger> jml2: thanks, i'm fiddling with
adding my specific resolution to xrandr; if this doesn't work
the way i expect i'll give the packaged vmware tools a shot
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3372[20:50:08] <TomTomTosch> jdoelger: which DM are you using?
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3373[20:50:11] <jml2> jdoelger, try this -> vmwgfx <<
modprobe
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3374[20:50:17] <jml2> jdoelger, and install
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3375[20:50:57] <jml2> jdoelger, xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
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3378[20:51:06] <jml2> jdoelger, reboot, and see :)
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3379[20:51:38] <jml2> jdoelger, the vmware video may already be
installed in the vm.. you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if
the vmw gfx driver is being used
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3380[20:52:11] <jml2> jgornick, the other vmw modules would be
for something more advanced for host->guest management
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3385[20:52:54] <jml2> cures to say that OsX users feel to be
outbranded by us vbox users tehehe
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3386[20:54:14] <jdoelger> jml2: xorg seems to be loading the
vmware video driver
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3389[20:54:50] <markybob> you're not answering the right
questions. we know vmware video driver is installed by default
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3392[20:55:26] <markybob> i don't know how many times
TomTomTosch needs to ask
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3393[20:55:30] <jml2> i havent done that vmware guest tools in
years.. but i suppose there'd be a tarball if you manually
mount vmware's guest iso -- should be shipped with Osx Vmware
fusion as well
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3396[20:55:35] <markybob> gets pretty annoying
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3398[20:56:17] <jml2> jdoelger, see how to mount the vmware guest
tools iso from fusion
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3399[20:56:28] <jdoelger> markybob: TomTomTosch - i'm
starting i3 with 'startx'
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3400[20:56:37] <jml2> jdoelger, you'll have to map the
fusion's guest iso with the application, then see if it appears
in the VM later
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3401[20:56:46] <jml2> jdoelger, dmesg |tail , would show a change
of media
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3403[20:57:03] <markybob> 18:46 < TomTomTosch> i3wm
doesn't resize for you.
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3410[20:59:26] <jdoelger> markybob: thanks - and maybe my
expectation that vmware would work similar to virtualbox, and
that's not debian's fault or problem, so sorry for that;
but i have a similar ubuntu vm running in virtualbox, using i3,
without a DM, and auto guest resizing works perfectly well.
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3413[20:59:48] <jdoelger> markybob: so anyway, i'll figure
it out, and thanks everyone for the help
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3414[21:00:00] <jml2> jdoelger, that's vbox
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3416[21:00:18] <jml2> jdoelger, it's more open.. so vbox
guest tools are more readily available.. this is not the case with
vmware guest tools
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3417[21:00:31] <jdoelger> jml2: yes, and again that's an
issue of my expectations
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3420[21:00:47] <jml2> jdoelger, why not try to find the .iso on
your osx?
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3421[21:00:54] <jml2> jdoelger, and finally map it to use it in
the vm?
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3422[21:00:59] <jml2> jdoelger, then install it!
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3423[21:01:02] <jml2> lol
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3425[21:01:32] <jml2> i bet if i google right now i can find the
answer
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3434[21:03:50] <jml2> jdoelger, gave you a link in pm
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3435[21:04:09] <jml2> jdoelger, it's made for the last
update for fusion 2014.. so it should still be good enough i think
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3436[21:04:11] <eyeyey> Hi guys. I have a big problem installing
software raid
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3438[21:04:34] <eyeyey> It does create the raid /dev/md0, mounts
with the correct filesize, but when I click i got errors
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3446[21:06:44] <eyeyey> The error output:
replaced-url
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3456[21:10:46] <frostschutz> eyeyey, installing, so it's a
new one without data?
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3457[21:11:01] <eyeyey> fully formated, no matter older data
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3459[21:11:10] <eyeyey> just wanna create a raid 1 again :/
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3461[21:11:34] <frostschutz> eyeyey, did you mkfs.ext4 it at all?
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3462[21:11:53] <eyeyey> yes, in one of my tries
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3465[21:12:32] <eyeyey> last time i created raid with the install
setup, now im trying to do it with live distro. I know I should
backup all the mdadm.conf file later ;)
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3467[21:12:58] <eyeyey> I did follow at least 3 internet guides,
but still cannot make it work :V
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3471[21:13:22] <eyeyey> I did even tried ext3 format on them
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3472[21:13:43] <eyeyey> did workd, but when i used mdad create
worked too, but does not mount finally
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3477[21:15:54] <eyeyey> frostschutz, im not installing a SO, just
creating the md device
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3478[21:16:08] <eyeyey> software based raid
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