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0[00:00:09] <pfred1> the trouble is your database depends on
newer versions now
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1[00:00:30] <unborn> roadrunna: can you please paste output of
this command: lsb_release -a
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2[00:00:35] <pfred1> you're in dependency hell ATM
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3[00:00:36] <roadrunna> k
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5[00:00:59] <roadrunna> o LSB modules are available.
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6[00:00:59] <roadrunna> Distributor ID: Debian
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7[00:00:59] <roadrunna> Description: Debian GNU/Linux
stable-updates (sid)
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8[00:00:59] <roadrunna> Release: stable-updates
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9[00:00:59] <roadrunna> Codename: sid
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10[00:01:00] <pfred1> the easiest way out is ot just start
fresh
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13[00:01:17] <unborn> sid.. so he is using unstable
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14[00:01:28] <pfred1> the child with broken toys
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16[00:01:40] <unborn> roadrunna - use pastebin or something
else..
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17[00:01:48] <pfred1> they got kicked
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22[00:02:47] <unborn> as someone else mentioned he wont be able
to install it on release which is not ready yet.. time saved ;)
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25[00:03:17] <unborn> roadrunna: next time use pastebin or
something so you wont get kicked out.
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26[00:03:26] <roadrunna> yeah sorry.
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27[00:03:40] <styks1987> I am trying to set a specific color
for my prompt in bash, however, when I reach the end of the line, it
starts to overwrite the line instead of wrapping. Any suggestions?
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28[00:04:01] <grawity> wrap the color codes in \[ \]
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29[00:04:24] <styks1987>
replaced-url
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30[00:04:28] <unborn> roadrunna: as said message in this paste
posted by you:
replaced-url
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33[00:05:00] <styks1987> grawity: so escape the [?
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34[00:05:06] <grawity> no
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35[00:05:11] <unborn> and you running sid, which I think was
not yet released (perhaps I am wrong.. let me check that)
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36[00:05:13] <grawity> wrap the whole color code in \[ and \]
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38[00:05:52] <pfred1> unborn Sid never gets released it is
rolling testing
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39[00:06:21] <pfred1> well unstable
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40[00:06:22] <Vizva> you test sid and you test us ;)
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43[00:06:55] <unborn> pfred1: ah.. that makes sense why I am
not seeing it in next releases.. so yes roadrunna, you wont be able
to install it on this one I think.. sorry.
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44[00:07:18] <CharlieBrown> not being able to use Sid is why I
am switching to Parabola
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45[00:07:30] <pfred1> you can use Sid
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46[00:07:36] <n4dir> how can one not be able to use Sid?
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47[00:07:41] <pfred1> but when it breaks its on you
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48[00:07:46] <CharlieBrown> I'm too lazy to use Sid
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49[00:07:50] <unborn> you can use sid
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50[00:08:04] <Vizva> its a lot of work and all the time come
here and ask questions ;)
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51[00:08:06] <roadrunna> I guess the dist-upgrade wasnt a good
idea
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52[00:08:09] <CharlieBrown> and everyone complains at me for
being lazu
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54[00:08:39] <pfred1> people that run Sid should not have to
ask quesitons they should be able to come up with their own answers
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55[00:08:41] <unborn> roadrunna: just install jessie or current
stable release
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56[00:08:53] <unborn> roadrunna:
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58[00:09:06] <unborn>
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59[00:09:14] <CharlieBrown> pfred1 backports is not good
enough.
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61[00:09:33] <pfred1> CharlieBrown not good enough for what?
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64[00:09:48] <n4dir> for chat on IRC ...
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65[00:10:02] <x_> speaking of xorg and drivers, i'm
wondering how long it will be until debian ships wayland default
instead of X, I've heard good things about it
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71[00:10:36] <martinjungblut> x_: probably some more years
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72[00:10:36] <unborn> roadrunna: if you are on hexchat click on
window and in bottom of menu, system info.. next time that will make
things much cleared in irc - for help from others
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73[00:10:47] <pfred1> Xfree86 4evah!
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75[00:10:58] <CharlieBrown> pfred1 for having a modern system
with KDE Connect and other wonderful modern programs
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76[00:11:01] <martinjungblut> x_: I'm pretty sure there
are things out there that Wayland doesn't do yet, or driver
compatibility isn't that good so far
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77[00:11:18] <pfred1> CharlieBrown I personally can't
stand the new KDE I run Trinity
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78[00:11:46] <martinjungblut> x_: I'm speculating, but X
is old and stable, it will take a while for its replacement to
settle in
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80[00:12:03] <CharlieBrown> I finally jumped on the ktrain
*because* of plasma5.
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82[00:12:10] <x_> martinjungblut: yeah, there are still
graphics issues with wayland
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85[00:12:20] <pfred1> which ain't as retro as my buddy DJ
is who still runs fvwm
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86[00:12:27] <CharlieBrown> I can't stand 4. and its
unsupported now
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87[00:12:33] <n4dir> martinjungblut: being old and stable
doesn't seem to be an argument anymore ...
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88[00:13:07] <martinjungblut> n4dir: not sure what you mean
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90[00:13:15] <mtn> stretch has gnome with wayland right now. by
default
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92[00:13:45] <pfred1> n4dir no one is going to argue with DJ he
maintains GCC
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93[00:13:49] <n4dir> martinjungblut: there was a rather new
init system just implemented as the default. That is what i meant.
(a silly joke, just ignore)
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94[00:14:00] <roadrunna> Client: HexChat 2.12.3 • OS:
Debian stretch/sid • CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) X4 860K Quad Core
Processor (1.70GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.6 GiB Total (6.3 GiB
Free) Swap: 4.5 GiB Total (4.5 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.1 TB /
2.0 TB (902.9 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GF116 [GeForce
GTX 550 Ti] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h •
Uptime: 1h 40m 20s
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97[00:14:32] <CharlieBrown> But yeah, I hate how debian
basically says lazy/dumb people can't get kde5
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98[00:14:52] <martinjungblut> n4dir: yeah, I thought you were
referring to systemd/sysvinit, but I didn't want to explicitly
go into that topic :P
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100[00:15:11] <n4dir> hence i was so vague (but really: just a
silly joke, nothing more)
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101[00:15:31] <pfred1> CharlieBrown I remember when KDE first
came out i heard all the hype so I wanted to run it but my distro
didn't support glibc2 so I couldn't until I made support
for that
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102[00:15:32] <martinjungblut> n4dir: I liked the joke,
actually, good one
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103[00:16:19] <n4dir> as long i don't have to run blackbox
i am fine with old (versions)
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105[00:16:28] <n4dir> (yes, anther silly joke)
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106[00:16:48] <pfred1> I like flux the best out of all the boxes
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107[00:17:04] <n4dir> yup, like it too. out of box, nice and
easy.
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108[00:17:12] <martinjungblut> I don't feel like the *boxes
buy me anything
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110[00:17:21] <pfred1> if i need that light weight a WM
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111[00:17:28] <martinjungblut> Like, they're not as
practical as a tiling wm, and not as good looking as a DE
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114[00:17:45] <pfred1> martinjungblut do real time control with
old hardware
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115[00:17:47] <martinjungblut> But of course, I could be very
wrong about this
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116[00:17:59] <n4dir> martinjungblut: but light and - as far
fluxbox - easy to use. install it, use it, call it a day
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117[00:18:00] <pfred1> you might want a lighter WM then
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118[00:18:14] <x_> openbox here, pretty satisfied with it
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119[00:18:22] <unborn> openbox is not bad too
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120[00:18:24] <CharlieBrown> pfred1 well this is not 1996. stuff
should just work. and a distro should not pride itself on being 2
years old
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121[00:18:32] <CharlieBrown> out of date
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122[00:18:44] <pfred1> CharlieBrown i liked Linux 20 years ago
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123[00:18:50] <unborn> roadrunna: exactly, with that info, it
would be cleared everything out sooner.. you know..
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124[00:18:52] <pfred1> it was all godo then
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125[00:18:53] <n4dir> CharlieBrown: you don't seem to get
the main point of debian stable
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128[00:19:09] <martinjungblut> are the *boxes lighter than
i3-wm?
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129[00:19:21] <martinjungblut> or dwm
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131[00:19:30] <pfred1> martinjungblut fluxbox is like 64KB in
RAM
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133[00:19:34] <CharlieBrown> pfred1 debian says if you're
lazy or a noon then use stable or get out
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134[00:19:35] <n4dir> i don't think the wm's differ
much in being lightweight (assuming we speak of RAM usae and such)
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135[00:19:48] <unborn> pfred1: ah fuck the ram.. its cheap
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137[00:20:12] <pfred1> unborn it can be but some systems are
limited
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139[00:20:20] <martinjungblut> CharlieBrown: I'm not sure
if you're trolling or trying to provide constructive criticism
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140[00:20:39] <pfred1> up until a couple years ago I was using a
1GHz P3 with a 512MB system limit
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141[00:20:47] <unborn> yeah sure.. I forgot on that.. well
depends what you running it on.. pfred1 you right
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142[00:20:59] <n4dir> pfred1: that's the spirit !
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143[00:21:13] <styks1987> grawity: Tring to parse what you said
with what I know about color codes. Could you give me a small
example? I am already using [] but maybe I’m not doing it
right
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144[00:21:31] <martinjungblut> pfred1: what do you work with?
I'm curious as to why you're using this old hardware
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145[00:21:39] <pfred1> that system had a RAM issue so it was
only using 24MB at one point I didn't evne notice until I
opened up firefox
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146[00:21:49] <n4dir> lol
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147[00:21:57] <grawity> styks1987:
PS1='\[\e[33m\]\u@\h\[\e[m\]\$ '
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150[00:22:08] <pfred1> martinjungblut it was a dedicated CNC
controller box
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151[00:22:21] <styks1987> grawity: thanks
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152[00:22:26] <grawity> styks1987: \[ and \] mark the areas
which are "zero-width", i.e. they set stuff but don't
show up on screen
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155[00:22:30] <martinjungblut> pfred1: running debian?
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156[00:22:30] <grawity> colors, terminal title, etc.
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157[00:22:33] <unborn> martinjungblut: I use old hardware for my
git server with web gui and it is serving me very well from long
time ago..
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158[00:22:35] <pfred1> martinjungblut yes
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159[00:22:37] <unborn> or ssh backups
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161[00:22:42] <unborn> i mean over ssh
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162[00:22:52] <n4dir> gitolite? unborn
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163[00:22:53] <martinjungblut> it shows how well made debian is
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164[00:22:58] <pfred1> my new controller runs Debian too
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166[00:23:23] <unborn> n4dir: nah just git
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167[00:23:43] <n4dir> thanks
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168[00:24:08] <pfred1> if I thought there was a better distro
I'd be running it
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169[00:24:36] <martinjungblut> I was a Slackware man for quite a
while
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170[00:24:40] <pfred1> me too
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171[00:24:49] <pfred1> from 3.0 to 8
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172[00:24:51] <martinjungblut> Then I moved to Arch, but
it's just not good enough for anything serious
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173[00:25:19] <styks1987> grawity: perfect. That worked. I got
confused because I was using [] in the output as well. Thanks for
the explanation
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174[00:25:24] <unborn> n4dir: what you running it? i mean for
git with webgui
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176[00:25:28] <roadrunna> I was previously using gentoo. Thought
I'd give debian a try.
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177[00:25:31] <pfred1> but everyone and their dog ran RH 7.1
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178[00:25:39] <x_> heh i still have my slackware 3.3 cd
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179[00:25:51] <martinjungblut> Slackware is still pretty good,
even nowadays
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181[00:26:04] <martinjungblut> I was impressed with sbopkg
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182[00:26:17] <martinjungblut> And their release cycle is very
conservative
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183[00:26:19] <pfred1> I really like Debian's package
management system
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184[00:26:20] <n4dir> sbotools ... :-)
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186[00:26:36] <n4dir> pfred1: a gem !
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187[00:26:48] <roadrunna> I feel like a rolling distro is more
suitable for me.
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190[00:27:12] <pfred1> I like to stay put
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191[00:27:24] <martinjungblut> Rolling is fine for personal
usage, but if you need to install something now and have a
predictable scenario for 5 years, then you need a stable release
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192[00:27:39] <martinjungblut> I remember when Arch removed
mysql-workbench from their repositories
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193[00:27:42] <roadrunna> yes I agree.
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194[00:27:49] <martinjungblut> What the hell, people rely on
stuff like that
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195[00:28:01] <martinjungblut> And they dropped it
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196[00:28:11] <martinjungblut> It's back now, but that move
wasn't smart
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197[00:28:11] <n4dir> or if you have 5 or 6 PCs at home you run
now and then, and want no hazzle with packagemanagement
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199[00:28:42] <martinjungblut> I love how flexible debian is, if
you want rolling, you can have rolling
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201[00:29:00] <pfred1> If Ron Popiel built a Computo-Matic
it'd run Debian
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202[00:29:15] <n4dir> martinjungblut: + all kind of
architectures, + kFreeBSD and Hurd ...
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204[00:29:20] <pfred1> just set it, and forget it!
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205[00:29:35] <martinjungblut> Yes! I got a Raspberry Pi a few
days ago
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206[00:29:54] <pfred1> martinjungblut gonna run Windows on it?
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207[00:29:56] <martinjungblut> It was so good so install
Raspbian and have i3 and all my tools available
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208[00:30:04] <roadrunna> Just to play with or for a specific
task?
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210[00:30:27] <martinjungblut> I want to learn assembly
language, so I bought it mostly to fiddle with the ARM CPU
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212[00:30:44] <pfred1> MASM was sweet
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213[00:31:25] <efloid> wow python filecmp.cmpfiles is very
powerful
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216[00:32:02] <CharlieBrown> you cant have rolling . You you
have to read a lot
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218[00:32:38] <martinjungblut> CharlieBrown: hmm, no idea what
you mean
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219[00:33:16] <martinjungblut> CharlieBrown: I was running
unstable on my laptop for 2 years and the only thing I did was be
careful while managing packages
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220[00:33:42] <CharlieBrown> "use stable. stop using Sid as
your main system idiot"
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221[00:33:55] <martinjungblut> You can use sid as your main
system
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222[00:34:17] <martinjungblut> You just need to read what
apt/aptitude will do before pressing 'Y'
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224[00:34:24] <CharlieBrown> I read everything and was very
conservative didn't install a thing and it still barfed
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225[00:34:30] <CharlieBrown> I even did it twice
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226[00:34:35] <martinjungblut> And occasionally fix something
manually yourself
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227[00:34:52] <CharlieBrown> by read everything I mean list bugs
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228[00:34:56] <martinjungblut> "Twice" isn't the
amount of times it takes to learn something well
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232[00:35:36] <martinjungblut> No offence, but you sound too
harsh on this one
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233[00:35:41] <exa_ways> I was following a guide to install and
configure deluge and stubled upon that part "Now enable it to
start up on boot" using systemctl. I do not really understand
what it does. Is it absolutely neccesary to run it at all or is it a
kind of autostart convenience thing that could also be done only
when I want to use deluge?
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234[00:35:54] <CharlieBrown> learn something? I'm just
trying to install the thing. I even asked 5 sid users if what I was
doing made sense amd they said yes
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235[00:35:54] <n4dir> not sure what is hard bout reading
apt-listbugs ...
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238[00:36:45] <CharlieBrown> n4dir I thought I stayed clear of
all offenses listed there but NO
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239[00:37:06] <n4dir> perhaps no one reported a bug yet (that
is: then)
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240[00:37:16] <ghutzriop> hi, my router was restarted and my
homeserver is not registered as hostname.lan anymore. how do I
republish this info?
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241[00:37:39] <n4dir> wait a bit, and usually your system is up
and running again (often at the same day, seldom a week)
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242[00:37:51] <martinjungblut> CharlieBrown: you can also try
testing if you want a rolling system that's undergone some more
stabilisation
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243[00:37:54] <CharlieBrown> n4dir and it goes back to "use
the crappy stuff or rot in development hell"
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244[00:38:12] <n4dir> well: for you. for others it works fine
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246[00:38:36] <CharlieBrown> maybe testing is ok but ode people
said plasma is utterly broken there and my experience confirmed
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248[00:38:45] <n4dir> i didn't have much problems with sid
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249[00:38:58] <CharlieBrown> kde people, kde users
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252[00:40:11] <CharlieBrown> I don't want to chase bugs
just to have nice things that are already in Ubuntu. I would use
Ubuntu but it is too much work to keep proprietary software out of
it.
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257[00:43:20] <wigust> For me unstable is wrong word. SID uses
only stable packages from upstream. So it's actyally stable.
Another talk that it changes a lot. That is not good for server but
good for desktop.
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258[00:44:42] <CharlieBrown> I've read all this.
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259[00:44:46] <n4dir> wigust: might be due to historical
reasons. I started using Sid in ... hmmm ... 2008 ? .. not that
unstable during that time (but you read hardcore stories from the
past)
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260[00:44:51] <CharlieBrown> I'm docs, etc.
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261[00:45:04] <CharlieBrown> Still refused to boot.
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262[00:45:48] <ryouma> some have said that debian has obsolete
(stable), insecure (testing), and broken (unstable). but i
don't know of a better solution.
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263[00:46:10] <grawity> testing gets security updates,
doesn't it?
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264[00:46:31] <ryouma> i don't think you can count on it
always getting them
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268[00:50:33] <n4dir> CharlieBrown: did you look at aptosid or
the other one. iirc comes with kde per default, and (is said to)
help offering a more or less painless, comfortable way to run sid
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272[00:51:12] <n4dir> you seem to be happy with parabola, just
saying that there are projects (distros) which might focus on such
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273[00:51:16] <CharlieBrown> n4dir does it enable nonfree or
contrib
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274[00:51:24] <n4dir> you can't disable it?
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276[00:52:16] <CharlieBrown> the point of using debian is to use
a very popular distro without worrying about purging nonfree
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278[00:52:59] <CharlieBrown> parabola is ok but it is still a
fork.
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279[00:53:03] <n4dir> if only that was the point.
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281[00:54:23] <CharlieBrown> debian is the only distro that is
free by default without being some ghetto distro that nobody has
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283[00:55:17] <n4dir> yup, but not many seem to care for it
(might be my little corner of the world, but i seldom hear people
admire that part of debian)
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284[00:55:39] <CharlieBrown> trisquel and others have horrible
community support because it's so small. debian is big
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285[00:56:36] <n4dir> i for one have liked the free part of
debian, i don't care much for software versions, i didn't
have much problems with running sid and i don't run kde
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286[00:57:01] <n4dir> so for me debian was good. I see that you
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287[00:57:02] <CharlieBrown> n4dir you dont care about free
software? .... I want to strangle you. I'm so tired of every
single distro being littered with software I don't need or
want.
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288[00:57:16] <n4dir> i didn't say that at all
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314[01:15:53] <ubikite> hey, i'm trying to install 8.6 from
netinst image. installation gives me this error: mirror does not
support the specified release. what do you think i'm missing?
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316[01:16:26] <ubikite> checked nameserver and it's working
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331[01:22:46] <efloid> odd i can't get fdupes to work. i
run fdupes -dN dir1 and it doesn't delete the dupes
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334[01:23:59] <efloid> omg. when i use --delete instead of -d it
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335[01:24:06] <efloid> bug!
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338[01:25:40] <efloid> oh my mistake. i forgot -r switch. fdupes
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339[01:26:11] <mihaicmn> hi there, I tried to install
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343[01:28:16] <mihaicmn> debian 8.6.0 on my laptop and the
installer could not detect the wifi card (intel 8265). Do you have
any ideas on how to solve this issue?
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344[01:30:16] <themill> That device will need non-free firmware,
are you using the installer image that comes with the firmware? (or
are you otherwise supplying the firmware on a usb stick?)
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350[01:34:36] <mihaicmn> I used the netinst iso from a usb stick
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352[01:36:38] <mihaicmn> Downloaded the firmware ucode file,
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353[01:37:26] <mihaicmn> But the wifi link was not present (ip
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367[01:44:12] <abbemsly> I am trying to install Debian
"Jessie" 8.6, however whenever Debian can't detect
the network drivers, it prom,pts me to select one, I know the
driver, that isn't the problem, the problem is, whenever I
select said driver (or any driver for that matter), it just
refreshes the list. I've tried this on graphical and
non-graphical and I'm using UEFI.
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382[01:50:24] <abbemsly> This happens on the "Ethernet
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383[01:51:25] <abbemsly> is it because im using netinstall?
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408[02:03:18] <rrt> hi, i just installed it and my hdmi doesnt
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411[02:04:09] <tp43_> anyone tried Cordova, its annoying cause
it expects google-chrome or chromium-browser executables instead of
just chromium which is what debian has
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424[02:12:24] <awal1> , cordova
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428[02:12:35] <awal1> ,v cordova
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429[02:12:36] <judd> No package named 'cordova' was
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434[02:16:56] <mohammad-ghasemi> hello, chromioum does not show
some pages correctly. Is it a problem of debian? (maybe because of
being out of date.)
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440[02:18:33] <cast> mohammad-ghasemi: post a screenshot.
it's probably not a debian problem, though
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441[02:18:41] <tomreyn> mohammad-ghasemi: can you provide an
example URL and your debian release version?
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450[02:24:08] <mohammad-ghasemi> cast, tomreyn I had the problem
for several day. But now it is fix. Most probably it because of the
apt-get update I did today
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454[02:25:25] <tomreyn> mohammad-ghasemi: okay, glad it is
fixed, so it wasn't censorship i guess
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456[02:26:03] <mohammad-ghasemi> tomreyn: no it wasn't. Did
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457[02:26:12] <tomreyn> there was a recent general issue with
chromium's access to SSL websites, could also be this.
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458[02:26:27] <tomreyn> mohammad-ghasemi: well i looked up your
ip address on a whois database
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459[02:26:34] <mohammad-ghasemi> tomreyn: yes I read about that
ssl problem
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462[02:27:13] <cast> ...Interesting, Iran?
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463[02:27:35] <mohammad-ghasemi> tomreyn: when they censor
something they redirect you to a list of "good" websites
(like religious websites) lol
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464[02:27:47] <mohammad-ghasemi> cast yes
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466[02:27:53] <tomreyn> oh i wasnt aware they redirect
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468[02:28:19] <cast> well, keep in mind that infrastructure will
be full of bugs too, occasionally breaking rather than redirecting
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469[02:29:33] <mohammad-ghasemi> cast good point. And of course
that happens a lot. for example, youtube gets censored and
uncersored every several days.
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472[02:30:50] <mohammad-ghasemi> so we're famous (not for a
good thing though, but anyway)
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474[02:32:32] <cast> if it makes you feel any better, the west
is following suit
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477[02:34:20] <mohammad-ghasemi> cast noooo, why?
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478[02:34:47] <tomreyn> because, there, too, people are too
broadly minded to be handled easily.
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482[02:35:39] <mohammad-ghasemi> tomreyn: exactly
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495[02:43:49] <mohammad-ghasemi> thank you cast tomreyn
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566[03:45:27] <tp43_> Please help me work with env variables
replaced-url
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574[03:52:02] <norsu> Hi all! I have a question about Python 2.x
in Debian (Ubuntu): before I start my Python program which uses
pyserial, I wan't to make sure the serial port is not in use so
I want to delete a lock file in "/var/lock/LCK..ttyUSB0".
How do I do that programmatically? I need sudo.
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575[03:52:07] <themill> tp43_: in what way does it not work?
(how are you testing it)
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579[03:52:55] <tp43_> themill, $java -version, $javac -version,
I did $source ~/.bashrc and I closed shell and restarted too
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581[03:53:40] <themill> tp43_: two problems: you need $JAVA_BIN
not JAVA_BIN; it would need to be earlier on PATH not later
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584[03:55:25] <tp43_> themill, thx
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586[03:56:07] <tp43_> themill, what do you mean, 'need to
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588[03:56:44] <norsu> the code that I try to handle this is try:
os.remove('rm /var/lock/LCK..USBtty0')
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589[03:56:49] <tp43_> themill, works now, thx a mill
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590[03:56:56] <themill> norsu: it's normally very unlikely
that deleting a lock file is the right thing to do. What created
that lock file, is it still running, why didn't it fix it up
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591[03:57:34] <themill> tp43_: PATH=mystuff:$PATH vs
PATH=$PATH:mystuff. PATH is searched in order and the first match
wins
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592[03:57:45] <norsu> ok thanks themill
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593[03:58:34] <norsu> Well I am actually pretty certain it will
not be running when by python code is running...just to try to make
things robust :)
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594[03:58:56] <themill> Incorrectly dealing with locks is not
the way to make robust code
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595[03:59:16] <tp43_> themill, so the stuff already in my PATH
is probably more important and used more often, so probably better
if it is searched first no?
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596[04:00:11] <themill> tp43_: you order PATH so that the things
you want to match first are first; order is important not something
to try to optimise
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598[04:00:45] <tp43_> themill, oh I see, thx my good man
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784[05:15:46] <requiemforadream> howdoyoudo,ladies and
gentlemen!give me string to paste into root@terminal to close all
listening ports)
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787[05:18:04] <requiemforadream> fieyu, 1592 users and no
answer, that's a case)
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788[05:18:32] <somiaj_> requiemforadream: netstat -a will list
them, turn off the services that are listening with systemctl
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789[05:18:46] <somiaj_> or use iptables and set up a block for
incomming connenctions
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790[05:19:14] <requiemforadream> thanks,co!
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797[05:21:15] <requiemforadream> somiaj_, bash: dmcvkdsmcvls: no
such command)
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802[05:22:29] <somiaj_> requiemforadream: what? what command did
you run? I don't know or did not suggest running the command
dmcvkdsmvcls
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803[05:22:38] <somiaj_> sounds like you wanted 'ls'
but had some extra characters
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809[05:24:21] <z8z> Is there any supported nvidia card which
works with some opensource driver? Where can i find a list?
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812[05:25:27] <somiaj> z8z: nouveau supports most nvidia cards,
espically the older generations (like 800 series and before)
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814[05:25:39] <somiaj> z8z: you can look up which cards the
nouveau driver supports.
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819[05:27:01] <z8z> somiaj: oh thanks... is this a community
project for graphic card driver?
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821[05:27:47] <somiaj> z8z: I belive that nvidia has even helped
with it (for older cards). I personally use the non-free driver, but
I don't have issues with it.
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822[05:28:24] <maskarito> so 2weeks of trying diff distros
including some very polished new ones with unbelievably light
hardware reqs....but as a noob the debian derivative point linux was
the most comfy and reliable
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823[05:28:25] <somiaj> z8z: for older cards or for those who
want free drivers nouveau is decent. Though I think you need to be a
few years oudated on actual card you use, unsure on the specifics
though.
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824[05:29:18] <z8z> somiaj: i see.... so Debian with only free
repository uses nouveau by default?
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826[05:29:35] <z8z> somiaj: i just need for CUBA tbh... not
gaming
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827[05:29:37] <requiemforadream> thanks!cutting a head over
diversion,somiaj!
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830[05:31:16] <somiaj> z8z: yes debian should be using nouveau
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842[05:44:46] <Blendify> hi, I installed the amd64 netinst iso
and edited the grub file to include the menu entry. But I can not
boot to it any ideas?
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844[05:45:11] <z8z> somiaj: Thanks a lot for your help
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846[05:45:41] <somiaj> Blendify: what do you mean edited the
grub file? Are you not using the grub installed by debian, that
should include the boot items by default?
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848[05:46:11] <Blendify> No I am in another linux distro
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849[05:46:34] <somiaj> Blendify: so you want to use the other
linux distros grub to boot debian?
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851[05:46:58] <Blendify> I want to but debian
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853[05:47:27] <Blendify> I would have to use this distros grub
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854[05:47:57] <somiaj> Blendify: have you double checked the
partition (and its uuid) and maybe even chrooted into it to ensure
the kernel and initrd images are where you say they are? is /boot
accessable outside of any encryption?
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855[05:48:37] <somiaj> Blendify: anyways, support for
configuring grub on another linux distro really isn't #debian
related. In debian there is a package os-prober which tries to add
other distros/oses automatically if you want debian to control grub.
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856[05:48:43] <Blendify> I have no encryption
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858[05:49:37] <somiaj> Blendify: alternativally if using efi,
you could have both the debian grub and other distro grub
independent and just use your firmware to choose between them.
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859[05:49:39] <Blendify> I am trying to switch over to debian
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860[05:49:50] <somiaj> Blendify: I would just use debian to
control grub
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861[05:49:52] <somiaj> !fixmbr
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862[05:49:52] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your
Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2),
mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ;
mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ;
mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target),
run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub
&& grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue
mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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863[05:50:07] <somiaj> Blendify: so from your other os, mount
your debian install somewhere (/target is suggested but you can
mount it anywhere)
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864[05:50:40] <demo> is debian faster than mint?
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865[05:50:40] <somiaj> Blendify: chroot into the the install and
then update-grub and grub-install it on the correct disk. From there
you will be booting debian. AFter that os-prober should find your
other oses and boot from them.
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866[05:51:43] <somiaj> demo: I would say no. Debian may provide
alternative (lighter weight) software that would run faster that
mint may not repackage. But in terms of kernels/speed I would say
they are equivlant. But in terms of a desktop a lot of preformance
can be related to the de or minmial wm you choose to use.
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870[05:55:38] <demo> suppose, I am using Mint xfce aaand want to
compare it to Debian with xfce?
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873[05:56:33] <somiaj> I would say comparable. There may be some
differences but I woudln't say anything major.
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874[05:56:44] <Blendify> mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected,
mounting read-only
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875[05:57:02] <somiaj> Blendify: you installed on a loop back
device?
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876[05:57:08] <n4dir1> as far it's me debian usually used
at least less ram than most other distros with a similar setup
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877[05:57:24] <demo> which is more preferable?
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878[05:57:26] <n4dir1> probably as lesser services ran, not
sure. But that is the past, not sure if valid anymore
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879[05:57:34] <somiaj> Blendify: not an actual partition?
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880[05:57:45] <somiaj> demo: well you are in #debian, you know
what we would recomend.
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881[05:58:07] <Blendify> sudo mount -o loop
/home/aaron/Downloads/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso
/mnt/mount_point
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883[05:58:12] <somiaj> demo: note mint could be based of off
ubuntu, run more automatic services, or even have a newer version of
xfce (which could include more features/memeory use/etc)
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884[05:58:13] <demo> because, what I have read is , Ubuntu is
based on debian and Mint is based on Ubuntu.
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885[05:58:22] <somiaj> Blendify: why are you trying to mount the
netinstaller?
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886[05:58:25] <awal1> demo: when people say "mint is
lighter/faster than ubuntu" they usually refer to the DE. so if
you run debian lxde vs mint cinnamon you can guess
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887[05:59:07] <somiaj> demo: the choice of distro is personal,
what one do you like, what provides you the software you need, what
tools are you use to. Also note you also choose support, if not
using Debian, this is not the correct channel.
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888[05:59:09] <Blendify> Because I am a newb ;)
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890[05:59:14] <demo> can I expect the goodness of debian and
Ubuntu in Mint?
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891[05:59:38] <tp43_> Blendify, forget about mounting loop,
anyway, you never need to use mount anymore, things are all
automounted these days
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892[05:59:42] <somiaj> demo: if you ahve questions about Mint,
you should ask their support.
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894[06:00:03] <somiaj> tp43_: in this case, he needs to mount
the root fs of an install which is probabaly not automatically
mounted.
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895[06:00:08] <somiaj> s/he/they/
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896[06:00:12] <demo> if I encouter any problem in Mint, can I
expect a solution in Debian?
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897[06:00:27] <Rusty1_> !mint
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898[06:00:28] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not
supported in #debian. Please use their forums at
replaced-url
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899[06:00:38] <somiaj> demo: if you experience a problem in
Mint, you will use mints support to debug it.
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902[06:00:53] <somiaj> demo: if debian also has that problem
will be dependent on the bug/problem you ran into.
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904[06:01:12] <demo> ok. I like the stability of Debian, though.
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905[06:01:15] <somiaj> demo: again it sounds like you have
questions about mint, not debian. So go to the right places to ask
questions about mint.
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911[06:04:02] <awal1> demo: just run debian; it's easy when
you get used. any custom config made by ubuntu, mint, bunslabs is
achievable under debian; for a standard en user, who doesn't
care about policies and so, it's just a matter of customization
and adding/installing non-free stuff
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916[06:05:03] <awal1> bunsenlabs ^
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918[06:05:30] <demo> whtis bunsenlabs?
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920[06:05:39] <demo> what is?
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923[06:06:50] <demo> what percentage of Ubuntu is Debian?
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925[06:07:11] <demo> since, Ubuntu relies heavily on Debian.
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926[06:08:01] <maskarito> aww man i thought this was the # for
any debian derivative
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929[06:08:29] <maskarito> my distro has no #
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930[06:08:36] <maskarito> point linux
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947[06:16:59] <phteven> hi channel. is this a good place for
sharing experiences of iommu on debian (virtualisation stuff)?
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949[06:17:32] <Cyis_> anyone had the problem with their mouse
cursor just constantly wanting to go to the top right hand corner?
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951[06:18:04] <phteven> i've had that sort of thing on
cordless when the batteries are low
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953[06:18:25] <Cyis_> this is on a laptop with touchpad
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954[06:18:31] <phteven> oh
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955[06:19:10] <Cyis_> was a PITA just to get a terminal open so
I could run irssi
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961[06:21:44] <Cyis> would love to find a fix for it otherwise
I'll probably go buy a new hard drive and reinstall fresh
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963[06:22:20] <phteven> i'm new here. not really in a
position to play expert. you know you can ctrl-al-fn, though?
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964[06:22:54] <Cyis> yep... I can go to a console terminal and
it works fine... just the mouse not behaving
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967[06:27:17] <phteven> could only google for you. i'd
imagine mouse configuation is down to the x server
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969[06:29:08] <Cyis> I'm going through the Xorg logs but
haven't found any smoking gun there yet
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972[06:29:50] <phteven> any references to driver it's
using? this looks interesting
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975[06:34:47] <Cyis> yeah it's using synaptics... detects
it as an AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
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986[06:39:03] <Cyis> it's almost like it's getting
event data from somewhere and getting confused but I can't
isolate where from so I can fix it
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988[06:41:36] <somiaj> Cyis: might be something with your
touchpad, do you have a usb mouse you could use and disable the
touchpad to test?
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989[06:41:41] <Cyis> if I 'rmmod psmouse' I do lose
the mouse entirely which means it isn't moving at all :)
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990[06:42:03] <somiaj> Cyis: yea just disable it with xinput
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991[06:42:18] <somiaj> well if you remove psmouse, a usbmouse
should still work, have a usb mouse?
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992[06:42:27] <Cyis> somiaj: I have a USB wireless Logitech
mouse and keyboard on my desktop computer in the other room
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993[06:42:46] <somiaj> Cyis: I'd try that, you shoudl be
able to just plug in the wireless dongle and it work.
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994[06:43:10] <somiaj> Cyis: at least you can track it down to
either a hardware issue with the touchpad or a driver issue, this on
debian jessie?
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995[06:43:15] <Cyis> I didn't have xinput installed...
installing now to see if it says anything
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996[06:43:38] <somiaj> Cyis: it won't say anything, but it
gives you a way to control the current input devices from the
command line. I use it so I can toggle my touchpad
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997[06:43:42] <Cyis> somiaj: yes, this is Debian Jessie and
it's current as I've recently done an upgrade
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998[06:43:45] <somiaj> Cyis: mostly because I don't like
touch pads and use a usb mouse
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999[06:44:31] <Cyis> xinput list shows me with 3 core pointer
devices
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1000[06:45:34] <Cyis> a 'Virtual core XTEST pointer',
'DualPoint Stick' and 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint
TouchPad'
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1001[06:46:21] <somiaj> you can disable the AlpsPS/2 with xinput
for when testing a usb mouse
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1003[06:46:52] <odigem> hi
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1004[06:47:08] <odigem> how to install drivers for intel 510
grapics card?
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1005[06:47:09] <somiaj> odigem: greetings
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1007[06:47:24] <somiaj> odigem: you shouldn't have to do
anythign special for the intel graphics card. Are you on debian
jessie?
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1008[06:47:40] <odigem> i newly install debian jessy
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1009[06:47:57] <Cyis> somiaj: you're on to something
there...
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1010[06:48:05] <odigem> i can't select resolution
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1011[06:48:15] <odigem> and have troubles with some apps
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1012[06:48:17] <Cyis> I disabled the DualPoint Stick (id=12) and
left the touchpad enabled...
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1014[06:48:47] <somiaj> Cyis: did it work?
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1015[06:48:56] <Cyis> the eraser head stick between the G & H
keys is disabled now but the Touchpad appears to be working and
cursor is responding properly
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1016[06:49:09] <somiaj> odigem: I don't know the intel cards
that well, but not seeming to find any linux driver for the 510 from
intel, looking up support
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1017[06:49:29] <somiaj> Cyis: maybe that stick thing was stuck in
a direction.
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1018[06:49:46] <odigem> somiaj: maybe need install some packet?
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1019[06:50:06] <Cyis> yeah... wouldn't surprise me that it
happened in the night. I've caught my cat jumping up here on
top of it before
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1020[06:51:05] <Cyis> as soon as I re-enable the stick the cursor
flies off to the upper right corner... so guess I have to figure out
how to disable it permanently
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1021[06:51:36] <somiaj> Cyis: you can either make an xorg.conf
snippet to disable it, or set up an autorun script to run that
xinput command when your de boots
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1022[06:51:39] <somiaj> !xorg.conf.d
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1023[06:51:39] <dpkg> xorg can use files ending in the suffix
.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for additional configuration. It is
preferred to use an <empty xorg.conf> and create files (e.g.
20-nvidia.conf, 20-radeon.conf, 20-wacom.conf) there in order to
configure a single device. You might have to create the directory
yourself (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d). See also "man 5
xorg.conf".
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1024[06:51:55] <somiaj> odigem: trying to figure out what linux
kernel/intel graphics driver supports that card
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1025[06:52:38] <Cyis> somiaj: yeah so far I've done no
custom Xorg configurations so it's all auto-detected
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1026[06:53:04] <somiaj> Cyis: yea you will have to create the
file. If you do it with xorg.conf or with xinput in a startup script
for your DE/WM is mostly personal choice
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1030[06:54:15] <Sifo_dyas> any kali advanced users here?
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1031[06:54:23] <somiaj> !kali
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1032[06:54:23] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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1033[06:54:32] <somiaj> Sifo_dyas: this is a debian channel, join
#kali-linux for kali users
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1034[06:54:50] <Sifo_dyas> thanks somiaj:)
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1035[06:55:07] <somiaj> odigem: can you share your
/var/log/Xorg.0.log file at paste.debian.net (want to see what
drivers you are actually using)
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1037[06:56:24] <somiaj> odigem: I found a post that says you may
need a 4.4 or newer kernels.
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1038[06:56:52] <somiaj> odigem: you may just need to install a
linux kernel from jessie-backports along with the newer
xserver-xorg-video-intel driver from jessie-backports. These are
provided to support newer hardwaer in jessie
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1045[07:01:47] <Cyis> somiaj: so looks like I need to disable
/dev/input/mouse0 (stick) but leave /dev/input/mouse1 (touchpad)
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1046[07:04:10] <somiaj> Cyis: I'm unsure on the syntax in
xorg.conf to identify them. I setup xinput on a toggle button so I
can enable/disable mine
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1047[07:04:36] <somiaj> Cyis: what DE do you use?
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1048[07:05:02] <Cyis> somiaj: GDM
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1049[07:06:06] <somiaj> GDM?
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1050[07:06:10] <Cyis> Gnome
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1051[07:06:32] <somiaj> I would suggest writting a small .desktop
file to run that script and put it in $HOME/.local/autostart or
whever the xdg specification says to put it
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1052[07:06:46] <somiaj> then just run that input command
automatically each time you login.
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1053[07:06:56] <nkuttler> um.. shouldn't /usr/bin/x-replaced-url
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1054[07:07:15] <somiaj> nkuttler: is it not a symlink?
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1055[07:07:33] <nkuttler> somiaj: nope, but i installed
google's chrome package..
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1056[07:07:49] <somiaj> nkuttler: I have google chromes package
install and mine is still a link
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1057[07:07:56] <somiaj> nkuttler: try 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/x-replaced-url
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1058[07:08:00] <nkuttler> weird
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1059[07:08:06] <nkuttler> yeah, it's in no package
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1060[07:08:24] <somiaj> nkuttler: ln -fs /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
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1061[07:08:38] <somiaj> nkuttler: maybe something overwrote it,
maybe update-alternatives failed in creating the link in the first
place
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1062[07:08:52] <nkuttler> yeah, i'll just fix it, ty
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1074[07:17:31] <Cyis> somiaj: thanks that gets me in the right
direction... about to reboot to force it to reset and see if my fix
holds
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1078[07:26:55] <r37r0uv33> !Cyis
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1079[07:26:56] <dpkg> cyis is, like, the coolest
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1080[07:27:04] <r37r0uv33> !dpkg
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1081[07:27:04] <dpkg> well, dpkg is the program used by Debian to
install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about
<reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg;
ask me about <dpkgbot>.
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1083[07:27:39] <somiaj> r37r0uv33: /msg dpkg factoid
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1090[07:35:12] <Cyis> somiaj: thanks for the assist
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1093[07:40:16] <Cyis> somiaj:
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1096[07:43:36] <Cyis> oddly enough it looked like the DualPoint
Stick was being detected as an evdev device rather than synaptics
device
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1097[07:43:45] <Cyis> but I got it disabled on bootup now
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1560[09:18:28] <alipoor90> assuming I have `-A INPUT -m state
--state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT` at the top of my ruleset,
does using `-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp -m multiport
--dports 22000 -j ACCEPT` decreases performance compared to `-A
INPUT -p tcp --dport 22000 -j ACCEPT` ?
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1563[09:19:56] <somiaj> alipoor90: ##networking may be of more
help.
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1564[09:20:07] <alipoor90> Thanks
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1567[09:21:34] <alxndr1> hello all!
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1578[09:31:04] <bencc> can I use custom font folder for a
specific process?
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1579[09:31:16] <bencc> like, start libreoffice instance with a
custom font folder
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1590[09:36:24] <c-c> bencc: what would 'custom font
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1591[09:37:30] <c-c> bencc: you probably can install anything in
user home if you like
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1601[09:41:31] <bencc> c-c: run one libreoffice instance with
font X and a second libreoffice instance with font Y
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the UI?
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1608[09:43:11] <bencc> c-c: no. I want to change the fonts
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1609[09:43:27] <bencc> I can use docker but wonder if it's
possible to do it without it
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1635[09:53:26] <red3curity1> hi :) , in debian 4 when system boot
over usb flash , after "attached scsi removable disk sda"
system hangs and goes to (initramfs) command line ....
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1637[09:53:34] <red3curity1> what is problem here ?
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1644[10:00:11] <c-c> red3curity1: can you see kernel logs
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1645[10:01:05] <c-c> - getting at, does it crash
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1647[10:02:37] <c-c> I guess the other reason is, cannot mount
root fs, red3curity1
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1651[10:04:23] <red3curity1> c-c: i guess debian can mount rootfs
and in logs kernel say it , but when kernel want to attached scsi
removable disk , some thing goes wrong ...
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1652[10:05:02] <c-c> I've never seen the message "some
thing goes wrong"
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1653[10:05:07] <c-c> wow, is that in kernel.log? wow
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1659[10:08:32] <red3curity1> c-c: :)) i say something goes wrong
:d / i mean problem is in "attached scsi removable disk"
step .
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didn't happen
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1718[10:57:39] <czvpka> h e l l o
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1719[10:57:59] <czvpka> i have a question
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1721[11:00:03] <subpath> ask
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2015[13:48:36] <OtakuSenpai> is there a dpkg command to check for
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2020[13:50:09] <SynrGy> OtakuSenpai: the library or the headers?
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2069[14:19:20] <jamesl> should I configure /etc/logrotate.d for a
log that will never fill? I have made a log saying the dats and
times of all ACPI shutdowns, it will never grow to any significant
size as it is rarely switched off. Should I still configure
logrotate?
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2070[14:19:28] <jamesl> dates*
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2074[14:20:34] <dvs> jamesl, if the log file grows, I'd
still configure it.
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2076[14:21:35] <jamesl> ah ,okay
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2077[14:21:57] <jamesl> I'll definitely configure my backup
log since that produces around 100 lines of output for each backup
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2078[14:22:01] <jamesl> and backups are weekly
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2085[14:25:56] <DrTosh> hello i have a question. I try to install
kvm on my debian server but if i try to create a vm it says that
there is no kvm available
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2086[14:26:10] <DrTosh> how can i load the kvm kernel module?
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2098[14:28:44] <DrTosh> how can i load the kvm kernel module?
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2101[14:29:19] <SynrGy> it should be in your kernel
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2103[14:29:37] <teraflops> DrTosh: what's the real issue
there?
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2105[14:29:59] <jamesl> is your server openVZ by any chance?
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2106[14:30:00] <SynrGy> DrTosh: are you starting the vm as root
or as your user? if as your user, are you in the kvm group?
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2107[14:31:24] <teraflops> we can play the guess game or they can
tell about the real issue behind their question
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2109[14:31:30] <SynrGy> hm. not sure if non-root operation is
possible without libvirt
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2110[14:31:32] * SynrGy nods
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2111[14:31:57] <SynrGy> DrTosh: what are you trying to do. what
do you expect to happen, and what happens instead? give the actual
command and any output
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2112[14:32:03] <SynrGy> DrTosh: and use paste.debian.net
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2139[14:53:58] <Sabotender> is it possible to upgrade cinnamon DE
in debian?
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2140[14:54:40] <SynrGy> in stable? no. for each stable release
there is one and only one version of a desktop environment until the
next stable release.
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2141[14:54:54] <SynrGy> and those releases happen approximately
two years apart.
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2142[14:55:08] <SynrGy> Sabotender: what's your issue with
the current version you want to solve?
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2144[14:55:18] <Sabotender> so for now I am stuck with 2.2.16?
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2145[14:55:36] <Sabotender> SynrG: cinnamon is missing a few
system settings, like 'Privacy' setting
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2147[14:55:55] <SynrGy> then you wait until stretch releases, and
then you'll have that.
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2148[14:56:07] <Sabotender> I had to hack my way to disable that
stupid 'Recent Files' section
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2149[14:56:34] <Sabotender> ah, okay. Also 'Screen
Saver' seems to be missing too
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2151[14:56:46] <Sabotender> I mean it might be somewhere, but not
where I usually see it
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2152[14:56:54] <SynrGy> screensavers are an obsolete concept :p
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2154[14:57:04] <Sabotender> shh, I love screen savers
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2155[14:57:21] <SynrGy> they needlessly eat power
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2159[14:57:57] <exa_ways> Is this a typo in the wiki?
/etc/gdm3/greeter.gconf-defaults
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2160[14:58:26] <SynrGy> it may be instructions for an older
debian release. which page?
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2162[14:58:45] <exa_ways>
replaced-url
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2163[14:58:46] <SynrGy> you can check the revision history of the
page and see how old it is
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2165[14:59:14] <SynrGy> in general, the doc that ships with your
debian release will be more up-to-date than what's in the wiki,
and should be considered authoritative
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2173[15:02:27] <SynrGy> yeah. that has been there since 2012 or
earlier (click 'info' for the page and View on the latest
2012 revision)
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2174[15:02:44] <exa_ways> file is called dconf in my debian
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2175[15:02:49] <Sabotender> SynrGy: fine fine, no screen savers
then. I mean I am perfectly happy with the version of cinnamon that
I have installed, I think it is more that I have a good nvidia
driver compatibility which makes it all worthwhile
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2176[15:02:53] <SynrGy> it quite likely is only really applicable
to wheezy, not jessie
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2178[15:03:07] <Sabotender> the animations and responsiveness is
pretty buttery smooth
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2179[15:03:15] <SynrGy> Sabotender: great.
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2197[15:13:33] <SynrGy> exa_ways: yes. gnome changed from
gsettings to dconf since jessie, so that makes sense.
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2198[15:13:52] <SynrGy> exa_ways: check the man pages for gdm for
further help, rather than the outdated wiki pages.
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2350[16:35:19] <os_> hi
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2351[16:35:31] <subpath> hi os_
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2355[16:36:08] <os_> it seems like locking screen doesn't
work here in xfce4
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2361[16:38:44] <subpath> which programm do you use to lock your
screen?
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2362[16:39:16] <os_> subpath, that come with xfce
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2364[16:39:49] <os_> i mean, i have just clicked lock button in
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2367[16:41:54] <subpath> which version do you use of debian,
which version of xfce?
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2370[16:42:31] <os_> debian jessie amd64, xfce 4.10
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2373[16:43:22] <c-c> subpath: $ xdg-screensaver lock
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2376[16:43:52] <subpath> thank you c-c
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2380[16:45:06] <os_> c-c, thanks i am using xtrlock for locking,
but i just want to link it with a button
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2441[17:33:01] <aeular> Hello! In aptitude, I accidentally
pressed 'm' while the cursor was on the "installed
packages" item, clearing all the marks on whether a package was
installed manually/automatically. Is there a way to restore this?
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2443[17:33:44] <aeular> I only found a way to restore it if I had
backed it up before, but sadly I had not backed up this stuff.
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2446[17:34:20] <Akuli> did you apply your changes yet?
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2449[17:34:34] <aeular> I did not
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2450[17:34:43] <transhuman> is there any cause that might be
apparent to the debian folks why my debian guest desktop running
under vmware embedded browser (chrome or firefox) has a mouse
pointer alignment problem? Is there an xwindows fix?
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2451[17:34:59] <john_rambo> I am trying to create a DIVX disk
.... I am using DEVEDE ....After adding the files when I click
forward nothing happens
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2453[17:35:13] <Akuli> aeular, then i guess you can just quit out
of aptitude and everything should be fine
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2454[17:35:14] <aeular> But it doesn't look like I need to
apply changes to edit the marks
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2458[17:35:45] <Akuli> aptitude doesn't do much unless you
tell it to apply things
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2459[17:35:48] <Akuli> i think
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2463[17:36:04] <aeular> but `apt-mark showauto` shows nothing for
me.
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2464[17:36:26] <Akuli> hmm :( then we have a problem
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2466[17:36:34] <aeular> and "cancel pending actions"
does not seem to restore it.
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2472[17:37:32] <aeular> In case I end up not being able to
restore it(other than marking stuff manually... sigh), it would only
affect me if I'm removing stuff, right?
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2473[17:37:50] <Akuli> i think so
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2474[17:37:53] <aeular> ie. unused dependencies not being removed
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2475[17:37:57] <Akuli> rigth
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2477[17:38:18] <aeular> I may be able to parse the aptitude logs
and try to mark it that way...
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2482[17:40:07] <Akuli> that's a good idea
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2485[17:40:36] <transhuman> think I should have doubled checked
that vmware tools was installed before asking..thanks anyways
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2500[17:46:12] <aeular> I did it! yay!
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2501[17:46:40] <Akuli> nice :)
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2502[17:46:49] <aeular> now time to back this up 3 times
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2506[17:50:33] <os_> hi
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2507[17:50:44] <os_> xflock4 doesn't work here
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2508[17:50:58] <os_> so xfce4 doesn't lock
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2509[17:51:08] <petn-randall> os_: On which releas_
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2512[17:51:12] <petn-randall> *release?
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2513[17:51:19] <os_> jessie, xfce 4.10
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2515[17:51:39] <petn-randall> os_: What happens when you run it
on the command line?
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2516[17:52:06] <os_> nothing, and it return 0 status code
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2517[17:52:23] <os_> by looking to $?, of course
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2535[18:02:02] <ksft> I'm having trouble pairing my
bluetooth headset with my computer.
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2537[18:02:57] <ksft> when I try to use bluetoothctl to pair it,
btmon says "Status: Page Timeout (0x04)"
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2539[18:03:40] <ksft> I can pair the headset with my computer
when I'm using Windows.
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2540[18:04:07] <ksft> I'm on Debian 8.6
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2624[18:52:00] <artisp> question: why is apt still using md5sum
in 2017? (jaw-dropped)
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2627[18:52:25] <grawity> 1) it's not 2017 yet, 2)
that's not the only hash algorithm it uses
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2631[18:54:22] <artisp> ok, found a good summary page, for anyone
else interested:
replaced-url
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2648[19:01:58] <ksft> I'm having trouble pairing bluetooth
devices to my computer.
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2649[19:02:04] <High> Hello
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2650[19:02:35] <ksft> when I try to, btmon says "Status:
Page Timeout (0x04)"
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2651[19:02:39] <High> I am looking for a grammar check program
for debian, prefrebly something for Jessie's KDE4 Kate editor
maybe, or just cli utility I can run on my markdown files to check
grammar and sentence structure
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2652[19:02:42] <SynrGy> query judd
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2653[19:02:49] <SynrGy> bah. give me a slash
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2656[19:03:43] <ksft> the device and my computer's bluetooth
hardware definitely work
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2664[19:06:43] <benvei1> hey there. any way to connect a
bluetooth *transmitter* to debian and use it as an input device with
pulseaudio? using debian jessie
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2665[19:07:05] <grawity> all bluetooth adapters are transmitters
*and* receivers
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2667[19:07:38] <grawity> but as for making act like an input
device... bluez could probably *technically* do that, but I
don't think it's already implemented as an option
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2668[19:08:45] <benvei1> grawity, well, there is an option in the
gui (Advanced Audio receiver), but the problem is that I cant even
get the audio transmitter paired. Cant find it when its in pair
mode, so I'm guessing its trying to connect to devices itself
and is not visable
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2682[19:15:22] <BCMM> how can i best install legacy nvidia
drivers on stretch? the latest propriatary drivers don´t seem
to support this card, and the legacy packages seem to be gone in
stretch
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2686[19:16:14] <BCMM> alternatively, how can i get hdmi audio
working with nouveau? pulse audio volume control says it´s
unplugged. for some reason
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2688[19:16:25] <somiaj> BCMM: the legacy drivers don't
support the newer xorg abi. Nvidia may or may not support the newer
xorg abi with their legacy drivers, until they do your options are
basically nouveau.
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2692[19:16:55] <BCMM> somiaj: ah, fair enough
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2693[19:17:10] <BCMM> i mean, on debians part. obviously nv is
being irritating as usual
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2694[19:17:25] <towo`> nvidia has released legacy drivers, which
support xserver 1.19
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2695[19:17:26] <somiaj> nv is very old and not sure may support
it
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2697[19:17:34] <towo`> they may not packaged yet
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2698[19:17:46] <BCMM> i meant nvidia the company, i forgot all
about the nv driver
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2699[19:17:48] <somiaj> with older hardwaer it may be easier to
just run jessie and not deal with these things.
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2701[19:18:06] <somiaj> and aparentally you may just have to wait
for the newer legacy drivers to be packaged.
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2702[19:18:13] <BCMM> any ideas about hdmi audio on noveau then?
in theory its supposed to be supported on this card
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2703[19:18:39] <BCMM> and teh device shows up, but is supposedly
unplugged
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2708[19:19:22] <BCMM> somiaj: yeah, was thinking about just going
back to jessie, but isnt stretch gonna be stable in a few weeks
anyway?
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2712[19:20:09] <somiaj> BCMM: no. Stretch is sitll frezing, I
think the final freeze date is feb 5th. AFter that date there is
usually a months (I've seen it take up to a year, but lately it
is probably 2-4 months) until the actual release.
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2713[19:20:32] <somiaj> jessie will also be supported for a full
year after the release of stretch, so you have plenty of time with
jessie to see if stretch gets the newer legacy drivers or not.
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2714[19:20:55] <BCMM> ok. ill try that if i cant sort out hdmi
audio, thanks
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2782[19:58:01] <opsxcq> check your PHPMail installs, there is a
vulnerability in PHPMail < 5.2.18 that may lead to remote code
execution,
replaced-url
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2796[20:06:50] <petn-randall> !tracker of doom
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2797[20:06:50] <dpkg> The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability
database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at
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2798[20:07:06] <petn-randall> cve lookup CVE-2016-10033
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2799[20:07:16] <petn-randall> !cve lookup CVE-2016-10033
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2800[20:07:16] <dpkg> Information about the security advisory
CVE-2016-10033 may be found at
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2813[20:18:13] <jhutchins_wk> It'd be a lot more useful if
it pulled the subject/headline.
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2838[20:27:32] <orang> Is mate a bad DE?
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2840[20:27:47] <AlexLikeRock> noooo orang
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2841[20:27:48] <l0llip0p> orang: nope, but I don't use it
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2842[20:27:56] <AlexLikeRock> its sooo good
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2844[20:28:04] <AlexLikeRock> i used, now
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2845[20:28:10] <AlexLikeRock> at 3 PCs
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2848[20:28:33] <AlexLikeRock> its full complete and ligthed
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2870[20:35:50] <ksft> I'm getting a page timeout when I try
to pair a bluetooth device to my computer.
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2872[20:36:11] <ksft> The device definitely works and is on.
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2874[20:37:45] <l0llip0p> ksft: what program do you use to
connect your device? (it may help to understand the problem)
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2876[20:38:36] <ksft> l0llip0p: I've tried bluetoothctl and
blueman
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2878[20:39:09] <AlexLikeRock> blueman SUCKS!
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2879[20:39:25] <ksft> what should I use?
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2880[20:39:46] <AlexLikeRock> i hear , "by terminal work
fine"
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2881[20:40:02] <AlexLikeRock> i dont use other like
"kde" :-/
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2882[20:40:08] <AlexLikeRock> go try
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2883[20:40:11] <ksft> what?
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2885[20:41:55] <l0llip0p> ksft: AlexLikeRock seems to be speaking
spanish or portugese than English
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2888[20:42:31] <ksft> okay
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2889[20:42:37] <ksft> l0llip0p: can you help me?
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2890[20:42:40] <AlexLikeRock> lol, spanish
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2893[20:43:16] <l0llip0p> ksft: unfortunately not :( I don't
know anything about bluethoot protocol. I'm sorry
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2897[20:43:54] <AlexLikeRock> With a Christmas hangover it's
worse, my english
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2898[20:43:59] <AlexLikeRock> RULF
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2899[20:44:05] <AlexLikeRock> ROLF
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2911[20:47:25] <l0llip0p> ksft: you could try the debian forum or
try to send email to package admin
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2929[20:54:29] <ksft> l0llip0p: what's 'package
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2933[20:56:32] <vkolchev> Hi, just a quick question, when you
write to debian-user mailing list if you don't have answers
should you receive own post as mail?
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2934[20:56:39] <l0llip0p> ksft: the who is responsible from
pakage when the pakage is provided to debian. You can see it when
you 'apt-cache show pkg-name'. I'm looking bluemans
github page and there seems to be bug with networkmanager.
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2935[20:57:21] <l0llip0p> ksft: which seems to be fixed in newer
version
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2938[20:58:47] <ksft> l0llip0p: Do you think that bug is relevant
to my problem?
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2940[20:59:45] <l0llip0p> ksft: not sure :/ that's why I
would contact to pkg-admin. He should know. Have you looked into
manual pages?
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2944[21:00:22] <AlexLikeRock> what a stupid tink !!! , NO NVIDIA
KERNEL AT TESTING !!!
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2947[21:00:52] <ksft> l0llip0p: I haven't looked carefully
for things about this specific problem
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2951[21:01:30] <ksft> in #bluez-users, someone thought that meant
that the device wasn't responding at all, but I know that
isn't true
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2953[21:02:29] <l0llip0p> ksft: It could be another way around?
Your computer doesn't have a powerfull bluethood device maybe?
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2961[21:03:48] <l0llip0p> AlexLikeRock: thats why its called
testing
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2962[21:04:31] <AlexLikeRock> yes , but must be have a BASIC
programs, and DONT MAKE FULL DOWN-GRADE!!!
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2963[21:04:51] <AlexLikeRock> to work simple XORG
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2964[21:04:55] <AlexLikeRock> god!
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2966[21:05:52] <orang> when in doubt use goto
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2967[21:06:03] <dvs> 10?
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3023[21:32:46] <exa_ways> I am using debian 3 days now and I
thought I will figure it out. But I dont. What does this strange
purple pinkish moving line on the right side indicate? =) Or is it
just there to confuse people like me? Or is it supposed to be
relaxing? My guess would be it is the snafu line. As long as it
keeps moving from top to bottom everything is snafu or is not snafu
depending on the point of view.
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3026[21:33:16] <redrabbit> who uses ufw ?
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3027[21:33:44] <redrabbit> i want to add iptables rules to before
/ after but im not sure i got the right syntax
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3054[21:48:24] <CutMeOwnThroat> exa_ways, we have no idea what
you're talking about
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3059[21:50:05] <CutMeOwnThroat> exa_ways, Debian is a collection
of packages, packaged in a way that they can work together…
program packages having the correct library versions, bugs in a
specific version that is in the archives fixed… etc. etc.
etc.
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3060[21:50:10] <ksft> what's the package linux-image-extra?
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3061[21:50:15] <ksft> is it only in Ubuntu?
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3062[21:50:24] <ksft> is it called something else in Debian?
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3065[21:50:48] <dvs> ,v linux-image-extra
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3066[21:50:49] <judd> No package named
'linux-image-extra' was found in amd64.
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3067[21:50:49] <exa_ways> CutMeOwnThroat, this pink dotted line
constantly moving from the top right to the lower right corner of
the desktop in gnome
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3069[21:52:12] <awal1> exa_ways: any screenshot?
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3074[21:52:59] <awal1> ksft: aptitude search linux-image
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3078[21:54:45] <ksft> awal1: those are what Ubuntu calls
"linux-image-extra"?
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3080[21:55:27] <awal1> ksft: I meant search for linux-image stuff
like that
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3081[21:55:47] <awal1> I dont see that pkg in debian
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3086[22:00:15] <exa_ways> awal1, nope it does not apear on the
screenshot =)
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3088[22:02:01] <ksft> exa_ways: you're certain that it
isn't a hardware problem with your monitor?
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3089[22:03:36] <CutMeOwnThroat> exa_ways, when I used to use
gnome-shell, I didnt see such a thing
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3091[22:03:54] <exa_ways> ksft, quite certain as it apears in
other linux distros as well as long as I use gnome
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3092[22:04:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> exa_ways, sounds like a problem
the monitor has if screenshots don't show it
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3098[22:06:32] <exa_ways> CutMeOwnThroat, strange I never
considered this to be a bug, more a fancy feature I do not
understand
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3101[22:07:43] <freesandman> exa_ways is it a problem for you to
make a photo?
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3102[22:07:59] <ksft> exa_ways: how does it appearing in other
distros show that it *isn't* a hardware problem?
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3104[22:10:07] <exa_ways> ksft, I am not saying it is not, only
thought it is a feature that "ships" with gnome, a kind of
"relax dude meditation line haha
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3119[22:20:42] <cobalt-blue> hello world?
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3120[22:20:54] <exa_ways> ksft, it seems it is actually. If i
rotate the entire display by 90° in settings it does not rotate
with it
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3124[22:24:37] <CutMeOwnThroat> exa_ways, it's always a good
idea to relax
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3125[22:24:52] <CutMeOwnThroat> well, let's say
"often"
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3127[22:25:44] <dvs> Relax? Dont do it! ;-)
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3134[22:29:39] <awal1> exa_ways: do you see that
"thing" in console?
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3136[22:30:02] <awal1> tty 1, 2...
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3137[22:30:05] <CutMeOwnThroat> "only in gnome" seems
to not cover the console
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3142[22:31:23] <exa_ways> CutMeOwnThroat, The joke about this is,
that this line was the first unique selling point somehow to get me
curious about gnome and debian while i was testing several distros
to decide with which to stick. I thought it is something very
avantgardistic and I only have to dive into the the linux world to
understand the deep meaning of it =)
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3144[22:32:05] <CutMeOwnThroat> exa_ways, oh yeah, now that you
mention it, it's this exotic feature, but none of us understand
it
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3147[22:33:53] <edi> he, anyone ever got Netflix to work on
debian, just using firefox and without nasty silverlight emulating
shit ?
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3148[22:34:36] <exa_ways> awal1, now that you mention it I think
it came up during boot process of kali live as well but in debian
its only after login
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3160[22:41:59] <jhutchins_wk> exa_ways: That sounds like a
hardward glitch.
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3163[22:42:56] <jhutchins_wk> exa_ways: Data leakage in the video
RAM.
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3166[22:45:40] <exa_ways> jhutchins_wk, yes I am more and more
convinced it is but the beautiful way it moves never made me suspect
it prior asking here. I am already thinking about coding a dotted
snafu line that indicates "situation normal" as long as it
moves on and on. =)
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3169[22:47:42] <jhutchins_wk> PCs don't tend to freeze or
lock up like Macs, but I guess it's a widget.
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3184[22:58:30] <somiaj> edi: google-chrome will play netflix via
a widevine plugin. You need to get the package from google,
debian's chromium does not have the required plugin.
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3186[22:58:56] <edi> i have widevine in firefox it says
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3188[22:59:17] <edi> just dl'd the latest from mozilla
website
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3189[22:59:20] <somiaj> ,v firefox-esr
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3190[22:59:21] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie:
45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 45.6.0esr-1~deb7u1;
jessie-security: 45.6.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates:
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3194[22:59:58] <edi> firefox 50.x , with widevine content
decrytpion module provided by google
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3196[23:00:14] <somiaj> ahh seems you need the newest version.
Debian's version won't support that. If the upstream
binary isn't working, you may need to ask them.
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3197[23:00:28] <edi> whenever I click a show, it redirects me to
the install silverlight page
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3198[23:00:30] <somiaj> yiou can also check mozilla.debian.net
for newer versions. Unsure if they would have the plugin or not
included.
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3199[23:00:46] <somiaj> edi: about:plugins -- is the widevine
plugin enabled?
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3200[23:00:46] <edi> but I think I just quit my netflix
subscription
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3202[23:00:54] <edi> somiaj: it is
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3204[23:01:30] <somiaj> edi: seems you may have to change the
useragent as netflix requires chromium
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3205[23:01:33] <somiaj> well chrome.
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3206[23:01:36] <edi> i was quicker to find an stream outside of
netflix with netflix content
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3207[23:01:37] <somiaj>
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3208[23:01:53] <edi> yeah I've read that, it doesn't
satisfy me
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3210[23:02:44] <edi> it think it's just a shame that playing
HTML5 video is distro dependent, that the whole idea of html5 is
going beyond OS's and Browsers
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3211[23:02:50] <edi> i thought*
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3214[23:03:20] <edi> but hey no worries, thanks for the input
anyway !! :)
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3217[23:04:52] <somiaj> this seems to be an issue with netflix,
I've read in various places, It’s unlikely that Netflix
and company will flip the switch for Linux Firefox users right away
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3218[23:05:30] <edi> well that's what I was thinking, and
that's why I rather quit the subscription and watch their
content semi-legal
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3219[23:05:54] <edi> if they don't want to tailor linux
users they're just asking for piracy
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3220[23:05:54] <somiaj> just use google-chrome for the time being
if you don't want to change your useragent to say you are
google-chrome
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3221[23:06:22] <edi> i tried chromium which doesn't work
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3222[23:06:27] <somiaj> I said google-chrome
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3223[23:06:31] <edi> and chrome from the official source
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3224[23:06:33] <edi> is 64 bit
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3225[23:06:35] <edi> I have 32
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3227[23:06:49] <somiaj> does your hardware support 64bit?
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3228[23:06:52] <edi> no
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3230[23:06:55] <edi> that's why
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3233[23:07:03] <edi> I could try it on my laptop
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3234[23:07:08] <edi> which does support 64 bit
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3235[23:07:11] <njames> does anyone know if virtualbox guest
additions require any packages that are included with standard DEs
that aren't explicitly stated anywhere? i've been trying
to get them to work with a base install running i3, and i feel like
i'm missing something. i've got the linux headers
metapackage and build-essential installed, and i'm using m-a
prepare before running the vbox install script. no error messages,
just silently not working.
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3236[23:07:12] <somiaj> chaging the user agent sounds like the
best way to me. I saw a plugin which will allow you to only change
it for netflix.
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3237[23:07:27] <somiaj> it was in the comments on that linke I
posetd.
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3239[23:07:53] <somiaj> njames: you need to install and load a
module in the guest kernel
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3240[23:08:51] <edi> thanks :)
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3241[23:09:01] <njames> somiaj: which?
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3242[23:09:04] <somiaj> ,v virtualbox-guest-dkms
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3243[23:09:05] <judd> Package: virtualbox-guest-dkms on amd64 --
wheezy: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1;
wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1;
jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie/contrib:
4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2;
stretch/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6; sid/contrib: 5.1.12-dfsg-2
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3245[23:11:12] <njames> okay great, i'll try it when
i'm back on the machine in 5min
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3253[23:19:02] <exa_ways> If I remove gnome-control-center the
snafu-line is gone. I purged this package by accident the other day
and realized some while later the snafu-line was gone. Some more
time later I realized the settings do not work and figured out why.
So after reinstalling gnome-control-center the situation was normal
again including snafu-line. =)
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3258[23:20:26] <exa_ways> You see it already is a feature for me
even if it is a graphical glitch haha
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3271[23:27:16] <njames> somiaj: will apt-get configure it to load
on boot or do i need to manually do that?
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3287[23:36:37] <somiaj> njames: provided you have linux-headers
installed so it can compile the module it should load upon request.
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3288[23:36:44] <somiaj> njames: but I have not used it, so unsure
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3292[23:37:44] <njames> somiaj: it works when i manually run the
command VBoxClient-all, so I guess the functionality exists somehow.
I'll dig into it more, thanks!
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3301[23:44:12] <trelos> This video woke me up:
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3321[23:58:37] <fuddie> Hello. How can I find out if my
computer's wifi-card will be compatable with debian gnu +
linux?
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