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23 [00:25:44] <ksk> interesting, will check that out
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37 [00:42:04] <SyfiMalik> some advice on saving gpg keys? I have
an sdxc card which is free as of now, just formated it with zeroes.
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39 [00:47:42] <RoyK> keep in mind that those cards die after a
while
40 [00:48:40] <SyfiMalik> I have lifetime guarantee, came from
sandisk and it is 64 gbs
41 [00:49:53] <bites> the concern was probably more towards the
data.
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43 [00:50:58] <SyfiMalik> so how should I use it?
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45 [00:52:18] <bites> encrypt the drive if you want, then dump
the keys you want to keep a backup of.
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47 [00:54:19] <SyfiMalik> bites: gdisk /dev/sdb
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50 [00:57:58] <bites> i'd create a luks partition for
encryption, then create the filesystem as described here.
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51 [00:58:44] <SyfiMalik> so I should create a partition table
first or encrypt the whole /dev/sdb?
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53 [00:59:13] <bites> as you wish.
54 [00:59:19] <SyfiMalik> I have done this before and I think I
have to create a partition first
55 [01:01:51] <bites> not necessarily. but it won't hurt.
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57 [01:02:48] <SyfiMalik> thank you bites
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100 [02:02:22] <lenswipe> hey guys
101 [02:03:29] <lenswipe> I'm using Debian 9 and I've
somehow managed to unmap the super key from showing the overview in
GNOME
102 [02:03:33] <lenswipe> anyone know how to fix that?
103 [02:03:36] <lenswipe> It's driving me nuts
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106 [02:04:02] <lenswipe> I've tried using gconf and
I've tried messing with the tweak tool but I can't find
any option rleated to Super
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188 [03:04:36] <cliluw> What does a tilde character mean in the
Depends field of debian/control? I see stuff like this
"python-ldb (>= 2:1.1.29~)".
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196 [03:13:18] <sadsagfjg> How i can find debian projects coding
by python and How i can join these projects?
197 [03:14:05] <annadane> sadsagfjg,
replaced-url
198 [03:14:16] <annadane> (basically go to salsa.debian.org and
search for python0
199 [03:14:17] <annadane> )
200 [03:14:37] <annadane> as for joining, well, anyone can submit
patches, or make an account on salsa and get involved that way
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202 [03:15:51] <sadsagfjg> annadane, Are you programmae?
203 [03:15:57] <sadsagfjg> *programmar
204 [03:16:38] <annadane> no
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206 [03:17:00] <dvs> oh noes!
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209 [03:17:44] <annadane> there's also some mailing lists -
lists.debian.org
210 [03:18:15] <annadane> i would say maybe get in touch with the
python team, they might be able to point you in the right direction
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243 [03:19:48] <annadane> sadsagfjg, there's also
replaced-url
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252 [03:20:49] <sadsagfjg> annadane, Thanks
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275 [03:44:11] <znoteer> I just installed python3-pip, but when I
try to install something using pip ("pip install --user
--upgrade pkg") the shell tells me that it can't find the
pip command. Neither locate nor whereis seem to be able find such a
command either. Am I missing something?
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278 [03:45:58] <sadsagfjg> znoteer, sudo apt-get install
python-pip
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280 [03:46:48] <znoteer> sadsagfjg: python3-pip won't do the
trick?
281 [03:48:09] <sadsagfjg> oh if python3 yeah
282 [03:48:14] <sadsagfjg> do this
283 [03:48:19] <sadsagfjg> znoteer, sudo apt-get install
python3-pip
284 [03:48:29] <znoteer> I already have
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332 [03:49:35] <sadsagfjg> pip3 -V
333 [03:49:43] <sadsagfjg> you did it?
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339 [03:50:22] <annadane> i mean, that's their paragraph...
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341 [03:50:37] <annadane> hmm, lemme check the readme
342 [03:51:24] <znoteer> sadsagfjg: no, but you made me realize
that I needed to run the command pip3 and no pip. Running pip3,
everything is fine. Thanks
343 [03:51:36] <znoteer> and *not* pip
344 [03:51:55] <annadane> oh. hah.
345 [03:52:02] <annadane> !next
346 [03:52:02] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
347 [03:52:23] <sadsagfjg> znoteer, :)
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352 [03:53:25] <DammitJim> is exim4 still the default MTA for
Debian?
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361 [03:55:06] <sadsagfjg> annadane, when you sent me mailing
list link. you mean what? I should to join it?
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363 [03:55:17] <sadsagfjg> for prohects
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366 [03:55:22] <sadsagfjg> *projects
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368 [03:55:43] <annadane> i'm not sure what i meant honestly
:P i guess that's relatively useless advice
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373 [03:55:54] <annadane> salsa is more relevant
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376 [03:56:12] <sadsagfjg> annadane,:D ok
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378 [03:56:34] <annadane> you can still check it out for your own
purposes i guess
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380 [03:56:39] <annadane> there's user lists, and dev lists
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382 [03:58:23] <sadsagfjg> yeah, That's nice
383 [03:58:25] <annadane> i may or may not also be guilty of
proposing 5 solutions to everything
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387 [04:00:59] <sadsagfjg> proposing who?
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390 [04:02:26] <annadane> just anyone seeking advice on things
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394 [04:04:47] <sadsagfjg> I dont understand your mean at all :P
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396 [04:05:21] <annadane> i meant, you asked how to contribute to
python projects, i gave you at least 4 answers
397 [04:05:31] <annadane> which i tend to do to anyone, i give a
lot of options
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399 [04:07:33] <sadsagfjg> annadane, hmm , thanks . yes you give
me 4 or 5 answers and I'm trying to use your ansewers
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403 [04:10:09] <Michael72> I did a dicoweb (Version: 2.3-2)
installation on a VDS with Debian 9. Python Version: 2.7.13. Django
Version: 1.10.7.
404 [04:10:10] <Michael72> The web address for this machine is:
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405 [04:10:10] <Michael72> I can not understand on my own
what's wrong. Maybe it's some kind of bug in dicoweb?
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412 [04:13:03] <Michael72> Forgot to say that I applied the
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413 [04:13:04] <judd> Bug
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603 [05:24:06] <linuxbox> ust installed 9.5.0 and I'm having
some weird issues like sudo isn't working, can't man
sudoers..tried usermod -aG sudo username but when I type groups it
doesn't show sudo in there when typing any of the commands it
says command not found i did manage to check for updates using su -
…but i'm at a lost as to why i'm having sudo issues
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605 [05:25:59] <at0m> linuxbox: my guess is you don't have
sudo installed
606 [05:26:00] <linuxbox> according to debian's wiki I
shouldn't even have to give myself sudo in this version as
they've changed the installer
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608 [05:27:47] <at0m> linuxbox: if that is the case, apt install
sudo
609 [05:27:54] <linuxbox> at0m: thanks for the tip, didn't
even occur to me that when I ready that on a page they literally
meant it wasn't installed lol
610 [05:28:46] <at0m> when both the manual and the group
aren't found, something is horribly wrong or it's just not
installed =)
611 [05:31:06] <linuxbox> at least all I have to do was install
it, I thought for a moment I was gonna have to add myself to the
group lmao
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613 [05:31:36] <at0m> linuxbox: installing did the trick? =)
614 [05:31:44] <linuxbox> at0m: yah thanks for the tip
615 [05:32:43] <at0m> linuxbox: you're welcome. in the past
it might be installed by default, now it's optional
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618 [05:33:32] <linuxbox> interesting, I read on a debian wiki
that none of this was necessary anymore, but then we are talking
about wiki heh
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621 [05:34:33] <at0m> when in doubt, you can always "whereis
$program" or "which $program"
622 [05:35:48] <linuxbox> what's also interesting is
whatever distro parallels for the mac grabs not only lets you avoid
installing sudo, but it also creates a default user called parallels
heh
623 [05:36:04] <linuxbox> automatically, which is good but also
kinda weird
624 [05:36:46] * linuxbox rambles on and on
625 [05:36:53] <at0m> =)
626 [05:38:16] <Moussa>
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627 [05:38:27] <linuxbox> i wonder if anyone has forked adium for
debian yet
628 [05:38:39] <linuxbox> or if that'd even be possible
without cocoa
629 [05:40:02] <at0m> linuxbox: both adium and pidgin are gaim
forks
630 [05:40:15] <at0m> linuxbox: so, pidgin is the IM resembling
adium
631 [05:40:34] <linuxbox> i'm familiar with pidgin for sure,
it uses gtk though right? kinda fugly
632 [05:40:37] <at0m> gaim was the Gnome IM
633 [05:41:02] <at0m> many clients , both with GUI and console,
use libpurple
634 [05:41:17] <at0m> or, can use libpurple
635 [05:41:23] <linuxbox> that's kind of hilarious when you
put it that way, i'm trying to go backwards lol
636 [05:41:30] <linuxbox> i just like the look of adium
637 [05:41:58] <at0m> that's not backwards. both were based
on gaim, if i understand correctly
638 [05:42:43] <linuxbox> well i just mean to say since they were
based on gaim and not origin, by trying to fork it back to it's
source OS it feels backwards
639 [05:43:16] <at0m> and yup, pidgin depends on libgtk2
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666 [06:34:15] <n4dir> hi. i am trying to follow these
insctructions for a usb-wireless-dongle:
replaced-url
667 [06:34:15] <n4dir>
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669 [06:36:56] <dgp> Probably not the answer you want to hear but
I would toss the acx100 dongle and just get something else.
670 [06:37:28] <n4dir> nah. a good answer. Just wanted to ask in
the german channel if it is worse to fiddle with that thing at all.
Thanks.
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673 [06:47:56] <n4dir> another question: i follow the
instructions for the internal broadcom: BCM4313 ; both ifconfig and
ip a; show the device after doing so, but wicd-gtk says no wireless
networks found
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675 [06:49:09] <dgp> n4dir: That could be it just not working or
something like rfkill disabling the radio. Looking at dmesg may help
676 [06:49:53] <n4dir> WLC_SCAN error (-22)
677 [06:50:42] <n4dir> "just not working". i was told
broadcam is known for permanent problems (and that is my experience
too). Hence i worked around with dongles, but that one died, and the
AVM one is the problem from above.
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679 [06:53:19] <dgp> Is there any other output from the boardcom
driver before the scan error?
680 [06:54:56] <n4dir>
replaced-url
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682 [06:56:09] <n4dir> not sure if the "firmware failed to
load " messages are boot messages or *after* i tried to install
the wl module again.
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684 [06:57:21] <dgp> I don't see the messages about loading
the firmware. Do you have the broadcom firmware package installed?
685 [06:57:46] <Michael72> For the 5th time I'm trying to
send a bug report to the bug tracker by email client and reportbug,
but in response no reaction.
686 [06:58:33] <Michael72> What could be the reason?
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688 [07:00:59] <n4dir> dgp: i followed the instructions from the
debian wiki. You mean this package (yes, it is installed): ii
broadcom-sta-dkms
689 [07:02:31] <dgp> n4dir: I think you need this too
firmware-brcm80211
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696 [07:04:23] <n4dir> installed it, but no gain. It is available
right after installing?
697 [07:04:28] <dgp> When the driver loads you should see it say
it's loading the firmware, the version etc and maybe something
to say the firmware is running on the wifi
698 [07:04:40] <dgp> you'll probably need to unload the
module and load it again
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701 [07:08:06] <n4dir> mh. same messages dmesg gave before. btw:
it says: Broadcom BCM4727; while the chipset is: BCM4313
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703 [07:08:48] <dgp> n4dir: Does it still say it can't load
the firmware?
704 [07:10:01] <n4dir> no. That happens during boot (always),
iirc. it says WLC_SCAN error (-22)
705 [07:10:56] <dgp> how are you doing the scan? iw scan?
706 [07:11:09] <n4dir> the complete new dmesg message:
replaced-url
707 [07:12:43] <dgp> It looks like the broadcom-sta driver
doesn't work with that chip and you need the older b43 one
instead
708 [07:13:44] <n4dir> Thanks. Let me try that, but later. Your
help is much appreciated.
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710 [07:17:06] <dgp> Other places say that brcmsmac from the
kernel should work too. I think if you unload wl and brcmsmac and
reload brcmsmac it should load the firmware and come up
711 [07:17:19] <dgp> then you need to remove wl so it
doesn't get loaded anymore
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714 [07:19:04] <n4dir> yeah, that is and always has been going on
back and forth, some saying this (driver), some the other. It worked
in the past, but never was much fun to set up. Now it doesn't
work at all anymore
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716 [07:20:18] <n4dir> how do i iw scan? I did : iw scan
wlp4s0b1; but that gives me the help of "iw".
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718 [07:21:16] <dgp> iw wlp4s0b1 scan
719 [07:21:23] <n4dir> ha. thanks
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782 [08:32:43] <darxmurf> where can I check who did shutdown a
machine ?
783 [08:32:59] <darxmurf> I can find the last logged user in the
lastlog but don't find info about the shutdown
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798 [08:47:56] <diogenes_> darxmurf, maybe something like: printf
"$(last -x|grep shutdown)"
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800 [08:48:41] <at0m> darxmurf: any info on who did su/sudo?
/var/log/auth.log
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820 [09:22:17] <darxmurf> hmm nothing clear in there
821 [09:23:07] <darxmurf> Well I took the last logged user in the
logs
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838 [09:37:48] <thnee> Anyone noticed that right clicking in
google chrome is a bit broken? Using the official .deb on debian
testing
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840 [09:40:38] <jelly> thnee: do you mean Chromium? The build
calling itself "Chrome" only comes from Google and is not
part of Debian
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842 [09:41:03] <jelly> ,v chromium
843 [09:41:04] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy:
37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1;
jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security:
57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1;
stretch-proposed-updates: 63.0.3239.84-1~deb9u1; stretch-security:
67.0.3396.87-1~deb9u1; buster: 68.0.3440.75-2; sid: 68.0.3440.75-2;
experimental: 69.0.3497.12-1
844 [09:41:31] <jelly> also,
845 [09:41:34] <jelly> !debian-next
846 [09:41:35] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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859 [10:03:39] <tdn> When I type "man
update-smart-drivedb" it indicates there should be a
/usr/sbin/update-smart-drivedb command. However, this command does
not seem to be installed by the package. What gives? How do I get
the /usr/sbin/update-smart-drivedb command?
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864 [10:05:19] <ghenry> Hi all. Anyone know of a tool to check
total size of a directory against a file SIZE variable/env/var and
then remove files to match that var/env SIZE or of a certain age?
865 [10:05:34] <ghenry> I'm thinking find and stat etc. or
writing my own wee tool
866 [10:05:46] <ghenry> Sort of enforced file system quotas
867 [10:06:04] <ghenry> I suppose, dening new files is better
than deleting in the first place.
868 [10:07:01] <ghenry> bbl
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878 [10:17:31] <netsrot> Hi, where can I find packages for
squeeze? When I try to use historical.packages.debian.org I get
"Not found" error page.
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885 [10:22:52] <bellbreaker> Is openldap on debian stretch linked
to gnutls meaning it will not work with openSSL certs as described
for squeeze here:
replaced-url
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891 [10:28:41] <Brigo> netsrot, archive.debian.org
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924 [11:01:57] <thnee> jelly: No I mean google chrome
925 [11:02:55] <jelly> best ask in -next then
926 [11:03:04] <jelly> wfm on stretch
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970 [11:53:06] <markc_> Hi, is there a known problem with
KDE/Plasma packages for testing?
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973 [11:54:14] <lambocrypt> Hey i connected external mic on 3.5
mm jack and it shows plugin in sound settings but when i record my
audio i only hear white noise...what to do ?
974 [11:54:52] <Fox> !debian-next
975 [11:54:52] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
976 [11:54:59] <Fox> markc_: ^
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978 [11:55:25] <markc_> Fox: thanks
979 [11:55:57] <lambocrypt> is that audio driver giving problem
or something else ? or do i need to change settings in alsamixer
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1002 [12:13:17] <lambocrypt> can any one know how to fix above
microphone problem
1003 [12:13:18] <lambocrypt> 3.
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1006 [12:15:30] <bellbreaker> when using gnutls-cli-debug -p 389
localhost I get "Server does not support SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0 and
TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2" when running openldap on that port. Why
are none of the tls protocols open? I have not configured a minimum
tls version for slapd
1007 [12:16:20] <petn-randall> bellbreaker: ldaps is not on 389,
but on a different port. Check /etc/services, it lists all
well-known ports.
1008 [12:18:04] <bellbreaker> also 636 doesn't work
1009 [12:18:13] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
1010 [12:18:13] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
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1013 [12:18:44] <petn-randall> bellbreaker: See above ^^^. What
error do you get?
1014 [12:18:47] <bellbreaker> fails with the same error :)
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1018 [12:19:36] <bellbreaker> I've been trying to set up
openldap with tls primarily following this guide
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1021 [12:19:58] <petn-randall> !tutorial
1022 [12:19:58] <dpkg> A very common problem is that some people
prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to
setup their system without reading the documentation or
understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they
have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they
sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial.
This is not The Proper Way.
1023 [12:20:14] <bellbreaker> well hold on
1024 [12:20:20] <petn-randall> bellbreaker: So did you set up TLS,
and then restart slapd?
1025 [12:20:29] <bellbreaker> I did try to set it up without the
tutorial first
1026 [12:22:13] <bellbreaker> so what I did first was generate my
own server certificate and keys from my own CA, but that was using
easyrsa and the debian ldap page mentions that the certs should be
signed using certtool from gnutls-bin, so I did that and no luck.
Therefore I reverted to the tutorial just to check if I could even
get it to work with a simple ca and self-signed certificate. I set
the olcTLS parameters and update
1027 [12:22:19] <bellbreaker> them using ldapmodify, restart slapd
using systemctl restart slapd and try to check if tls is working
using ldapwhoami -H ldap:// -x -ZZ
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1029 [12:22:54] <bellbreaker> this results in ldap_start_tls:
Connect error (-11) additional info: The TLS connection was
non-properly terminated
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1032 [12:23:13] <petn-randall> bellbreaker: I'd check the
server logs, maybe it has useful info there.
1033 [12:23:22] <bellbreaker> so I check if tls is working at all
on either port 389 where the starttls should be enabled as far as I
can tell using the gnutls-cli-debug command i listed before
1034 [12:23:33] <bellbreaker> but that says that no tls or ssl
protocol is enabled
1035 [12:23:43] <bellbreaker> I'll do that now yes
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1044 [12:28:23] <bellbreaker> no logs are generated, I think the
connection does not make it through at all
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1046 [12:28:30] <bellbreaker> starting slapd with -d any now
1047 [12:29:15] <petn-randall> bellbreaker: Can you share the
complete command + output of your gnutls-cli-debug command to
replaced-url
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1051 [12:34:43] <bellbreaker>
replaced-url
1052 [12:35:01] <bellbreaker> on port 636 it's identical
except for the port number
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1057 [12:39:40] <bellbreaker> right so in the slapd logs I get
connection_read(13): TLS accept failure error=-1 id=1000, closing
1058 [12:39:48] <bellbreaker> when trying a ldapwhoami
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1062 [12:44:23] <petn-randall> bellbreaker: Does unencrypted
access work?
1063 [12:44:38] <bellbreaker> yes
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1069 [12:47:37] <bellbreaker> setting GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL=15 as
suggested here:
replaced-url
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1071 [12:48:19] <bellbreaker> and it terminates at "TLS:
can't accept: No supported cipher suites have been
found.."
1072 [12:48:31] <bellbreaker> which makes sense since
gnutls-cli-debug tells me that I don't have any
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1080 [12:51:11] <bellbreaker> I wish it would tell me which
certificates it has
1081 [12:51:24] <bellbreaker> because I pointed slapd to my own ca
certificate
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1120 [13:34:33] <bellbreaker> Is it just a problem with GnuTLS
then?
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1141 [13:55:04] <bassil> do you guys know if Debian 9 works with
broadcom drivers out of the box?
1142 [13:55:05] <bellbreaker> must the ldap server have a hostname
of ldap? or can it be anything?
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1145 [13:56:03] <Brigo> bassil, most probably you will need
firmware from non-free
1146 [13:56:16] <bassil> ok
1147 [13:56:21] <Brigo> that isn't configured out of the box.
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1150 [13:57:23] <bites> bassil: you will have to tell us which
card it is exactly. some broadcom firmware is not freely
distributable, even in non-free.
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1153 [13:57:43] <bassil> I understand, thank you
1154 [13:58:14] <bassil> right now I can't because it's
stuck with a xubuntu install that doesn't even have Ethernet
working
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1156 [13:58:23] <bassil> but thank you
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1158 [13:58:54] <bites> bassil: most will work with the firmware
installer image, which is the normal installer with additional
non-free firmware included.
1159 [13:59:28] <bassil> normal cd1?
1160 [13:59:57] <bites> no, you can get it from here:
replaced-url
1161 [14:00:11] <bassil> oh man thank you
1162 [14:00:22] <bites> no problem, good luck .
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1164 [14:04:16] <arora> Is there a list of banned users?
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1168 [14:05:47] <FinalX> arora: /mode #debian +b
1169 [14:05:58] <FinalX> or just /bans in some clients
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1174 [14:08:49] <satran> I'm trying to install gnome on a
fresh install on sid. I get `gnome : Depends: gnome-core (=
1:3.22+9) but it is not going to be installed.` I have done an
autoclean and autoremove but no progress.
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1177 [14:09:32] <Fasti> Looking for a command line tool for
sending mail to smtp server with attachment - STARTTLS / office365
compatible any clues?
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1180 [14:10:08] <FinalX> mutt?
1181 [14:10:25] <dka> hi, i have a x1 carbon lenovo on debian 8 ,
i have just started up and the mouse is working except the left
click
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1183 [14:10:40] <dka> I have tried to left click using pad and
using the x1 carbon mouse buttons
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1185 [14:10:53] <dka> That was working fine before, any idea how
to solve that?
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1188 [14:13:32] <SwedeMike> ml
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1193 [14:25:13] <bellbreaker> When I run ldapmodify to add entries
for olcTLSCertificateFile, this does not show up anywhere in
slapd.d. Is this supposed to happen?
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1200 [14:32:17] <Fasti> dka .... is it a many button mouse? you
might need
replaced-url
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1202 [14:35:20] <dka> no its the mouse included in the laptop
1203 [14:35:28] <dka> i have no usb mouth
1204 [14:35:42] <dka> I managed to desactivate the sensitive pad
1205 [14:36:01] <dka> apparently the left click was pressed the
whole time making inefficient the click
1206 [14:36:06] <dka> Probably because of dust....
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1209 [14:38:08] <Fasti> dka, ahh, normally touchpads are just
standard ps/2 style connections
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1211 [14:38:32] <Fasti> been a while since i tried one.....im on
servers not desktops
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1261 [15:32:12] <Moussa> petn-randall, just a follow up on
yesterday ZFS RAM usage
1262 [15:32:17] <Moussa>
replaced-url
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1265 [15:33:10] <Moussa> the box isd down ATM
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1281 [15:41:16] <mixfix41> hi i was looking to find this git
repository git://git.debian.org/pkg-bluetooth/sbc.git
1282 [15:41:30] <mixfix41> but im unsure if i stumbled upon the
same package
1283 [15:42:11] <mixfix41> pertains to this issue :
replaced-url
1284 [15:42:12] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1287 [15:43:16] <MaxFrames> hi
1288 [15:43:17] <mixfix41> but i dont use debian at all. just that
repo it helps
1289 [15:43:57] <petn-randall> mixfix41: Does it exist? What makes
you think it should exist?
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1293 [15:44:10] <mixfix41> because its a solution
1294 [15:44:20] <mixfix41> they only got rid of it some months
back im sure
1295 [15:44:24] <mixfix41> even without checking
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1297 [15:45:04] <MaxFrames> I'm in a bit of a tangle here. I
created a test virtual machine on hyper-v on windows 10, and now I
need to migrate it to hyper-v on windows 2008 r2, but 2008 does not
support the virtual hard disk format (vhdx) so I had to convert it
to vhd.... but now it's not bootable and I've been told
that I need to start the virtual machine with the debian iso, with
the vhd attached to it...
1298 [15:45:16] <MaxFrames> ...and fix grub on the vhd so to make
it bootable
1299 [15:45:25] <MaxFrames> can you give me directions how to?
1300 [15:45:41] <MaxFrames> of course the vm is debian 9.5
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1302 [15:46:32] <petn-randall> mixfix41: And how did you find out
about it?
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1304 [15:47:08] <lambocrypt> i accidently deleted audio drivers
1305 [15:47:11] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: How is this issue
related to Debian? Seems like a windows issue to me.
1306 [15:47:13] <lambocrypt> how do i reinstall it
1307 [15:47:22] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: How did you delete
them?
1308 [15:47:41] <lambocrypt> actually my mic was giving white
noise output
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1310 [15:47:53] <lambocrypt> so i tried to add realtec drivers
1311 [15:47:58] <MaxFrames> petn-randall: I expected this
objection. let's forget all the windows stuff, and just say I
have this debian machine with a hard disk that isn't bootable
anymore so I need to fix grub on it and make it bootable again
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1313 [15:48:08] <lambocrypt> but got errors and previous drivers
was not showing
1314 [15:48:15] <lambocrypt> alsa mixer is also not opening
1315 [15:48:20] <MaxFrames> so I boot the machine with the debian
install dvd and....?
1316 [15:48:40] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: You still didn't
answer my question. It is "how did you delete the audio
drivers?"
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1319 [15:49:25] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: What boot errors do you
get? If you corrupted the disk there's not much to fix.
1320 [15:49:43] <lambocrypt> it was automaticallly got deleted
becuz i installed new driver
1321 [15:49:43] <MaxFrames> the bios just does not find a bootable
disk at all
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1323 [15:50:05] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: HOW? Give us details.
Command you ran, output you got, etc.
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1326 [15:50:25] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: Or did you just yell
"Alexa! Delete the audio drivers for me!"
1327 [15:50:29] <MaxFrames> isn't there a way to boot to a
terminal and run some commands to restore grub on a hard disk?
1328 [15:50:36] <lambocrypt> i hv rebooted and terminal output was
gone
1329 [15:50:48] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: How is there a Debian
issue if your VM doesn't even find a boot disk?
1330 [15:50:58] <lambocrypt> there were compilation errors in that
new driver that causes problem
1331 [15:51:04] <mixfix41> petn-randall: i used it
1332 [15:51:09] <mixfix41> petn-randall: this is on arm
1333 [15:51:11] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: Then I recommend
reinstalling from scratch.
1334 [15:51:25] <petn-randall> !xy problem
1335 [15:51:25] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
1336 [15:51:26] <lambocrypt> what os or driver
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1338 [15:51:28] <petn-randall> mixfix41: ^^^
1339 [15:51:32] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: OS.
1340 [15:51:32] <MaxFrames> it does not find a boot disk because
the boot sector has to be rebuilt. how do I rebuild it in debian?
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1342 [15:51:38] <lambocrypt> :-(
1343 [15:51:54] <lambocrypt> there is no other solution available
??
1344 [15:52:00] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: If you don't
remember what you did, the only sure way to recover is to reinstall.
1345 [15:52:20] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: How should we know? My
crystall ball is broken, I cannot know what you did that you broke
your system.
1346 [15:52:22] <mixfix41> lambocrypt: you could tryto rebuild the
kernel modules for alsa
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1349 [15:52:31] <mixfix41> make modules or something like that
1350 [15:52:39] <lambocrypt> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open
failed for default: No such file or directory
1351 [15:52:42] <lambocrypt> i got this error
1352 [15:52:46] <mixfix41> not sure how you got there in the first
place tho
1353 [15:52:48] <lambocrypt> after installing new driver
1354 [15:52:48] <petn-randall> mixfix41: You're for some
reason assuming they built their kernel by hand.
1355 [15:52:54] <lambocrypt> in alsamixer
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1358 [15:53:14] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: If you can't
recall what you did, reinstall. Or restore from backups.
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1360 [15:53:53] <linuxbox> i'm trying to install the irc
plugin for kopete on debian but have no idea how to compile
1361 [15:54:24] <mixfix41> grab the source make make install. but
thats why they have build scripts and/or package managers for
1362 [15:54:37] <lambocrypt> petn-randall i extarcted tar.gz2 of
driver and just type ./install
1363 [15:54:57] <lambocrypt> and it automatically performed some
operation like compiling etc.
1364 [15:55:14] <MaxFrames> well, I answered my own question. you
boot off the debian install cd, choose the repair install mode, go
through the wizard and choose the option to rebuild grub on /dev/sda
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1366 [15:55:29] <linuxbox> mixfix41: so how can I tell if
there's a build script?
1367 [15:55:48] <mixfix41> if its for debian im not too sure
1368 [15:55:55] <linuxbox> mixfix41: i found this here ->
replaced-url
1369 [15:55:59] <petn-randall> !dontbreakdebian
1370 [15:55:59] <dpkg> dont break debian is probably
replaced-url
1371 [15:56:00] <MaxFrames> as you can see, it was neither a
windows problem nor a corrupted disk, just a case of missing boot
info
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1373 [15:56:10] <petn-randall> !tell lambocrypt -about
dontbreakdebian
1374 [15:56:23] <MaxFrames> thanks anyway
1375 [15:56:30] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: The bot sent you a
message. I'd read that page, and then reinstall.
1376 [15:56:51] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: Sure, you can try
booting the installer, and then try fixing the system.
1377 [15:57:01] <lambocrypt> petn-randall: alsaconf: not found
this error was the first error when compiling new driver of realtec
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1379 [15:57:15] * petn-randall shrugs.
1380 [15:57:41] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: I don't care about
the error you get now. I've told you several times now the only
clean way is to reinstall.
1381 [15:58:10] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: If you don't
recall how you broke the system, there's no way for us to help
you fix the system.\
1382 [15:58:35] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: Read the
dontbreakdebian factoid, it has good hints to avoid such cases in
the future.
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1386 [16:00:44] <lambocrypt> yes i hve used ubuntu tutorial to fix
my microphone problem and thing got broken
1387 [16:01:56] <petn-randall> That's no surprise.
1388 [16:01:58] <lambocrypt> hda intel driver was missing
1389 [16:01:58] <petn-randall> !ubuntu
1390 [16:01:58] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not
Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on
chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less
helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on
#debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
1391 [16:02:28] <lambocrypt> ok
1392 [16:02:42] <mixfix41> linuxbox: you could look at this
replaced-url
1393 [16:03:12] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: snd_hda_intel has been
in the Debian kernel for 10(?) years now, so that was not your
issue. Do you have any other question besides your audio driver
issue that is solved by reinstalling?
1394 [16:03:52] <linuxbox> mixfix41: that looks like the
instructions on how to install kopete itself from make lol
1395 [16:04:07] <linuxbox> i've got it installed on debian
already, just need the plugin
1396 [16:04:21] <lambocrypt> i think i should try to install sound
driver again
1397 [16:04:43] <linuxbox> strange that the original creator never
compiled a .deb version for folks
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1399 [16:05:49] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: There is no "sound
driver". There are kernel modules, ALSA libraries, a pulsaudio
daemon and many more things on the system that could be called
"sounds driver". If you don't know what you
overwrote, reinstalling is the only sane way to get it fixed.
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1402 [16:06:07] <linuxbox> it does indeed look like i'd have
to have cmake installed to even beginning compiling this plugin
1403 [16:06:34] <linuxbox> all so I can have a prettier looking
gui for irc lol
1404 [16:06:41] <petn-randall> linuxbox: Maybe it's easier to
just one of the many IRC clients in Debian that work out of the box.
1405 [16:06:46] <petn-randall> *use
1406 [16:06:50] <mixfix41> is pidgin a fork of kopete
1407 [16:07:03] <lambocrypt> i think i interfare with kernel
modules
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1409 [16:07:33] <linuxbox> mixfix41: naw pidgin is a fork of gaim
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1411 [16:08:02] <linuxbox> it's just ugly because they based
it on gtk
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1413 [16:08:37] <linuxbox> the guys at kopete really should just
include a maintained irc plugin :(
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1417 [16:10:06] <lambocrypt> petn-randall: i hv lappy where debian
is installed ... i will crockcheck and let u know and i wiil send u
link of screenshot
1418 [16:11:21] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: no thanks
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1420 [16:12:15] <lambocrypt> -_-
1421 [16:13:03] <n4dir> re-installation could have already
finished ...
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1423 [16:13:57] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: It's as if
you're completely ignoring my advice, and stubbonly trying to
fiddle with the issue as if it was fixable. I guess I'll have
to set you to /ignore if you continue.
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1430 [16:16:52] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: Have you read
replaced-url
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1436 [16:19:20] <lambocrypt> yep i already read that time when i
installed debian
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1439 [16:20:18] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: So you already read
that and then decided to ignore #4 anyway?
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1447 [16:25:48] <peedabee> petn-randall, some people should learn
to do their silly stuff in containers :)
1448 [16:26:31] <Fox> they would still break containers and ask
how to fix here :)
1449 [16:26:49] <peedabee> coach them to use alpine containers
1450 [16:27:15] <peedabee> They can bother the people over there
:)
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1454 [16:29:02] <Neobenedict> hia trying to install debian. what
option do i pick in the installer so I can install as software raid
0?
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1459 [16:30:48] <peedabee> Neobenedict, manual partitioning in the
installation menu
1460 [16:31:09] <peedabee> create the raid partitions -> create
md device -> procede with installation
1461 [16:31:10] <Neobenedict> "graphical expert
install"?
1462 [16:31:34] <Neobenedict> i dont see manual partitioning at
the top level
1463 [16:31:35] <Neobenedict> menu
1464 [16:31:49] <jelly> Neobenedict: expert install (doesn't
need to be graphical but I guess it can), manual partitioning, set
up partitions as you like on all the disks, then set up md raid0
over the relevant partition set
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1466 [16:33:25] <n4dir> i dont think for manual partitioning the
expert mofe is required.
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1468 [16:34:34] <jelly> but expert install is the best install
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1471 [16:35:28] <n4dir> nevee found a use in it - besides it
sounds cool :)
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1493 [16:45:28] <peedabee> I have never even seen the graphical
installer debian has, I just realized. Is it any good?
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1495 [16:46:03] <jelly> it's exactly the same stuff as the
text installer, only with a window
1496 [16:46:09] <jelly> and mouse support
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1498 [16:46:20] <Kelsar> shiny!
1499 [16:46:36] <Kelsar> has it fancy effects? like a desktop
cube?
1500 [16:46:37] <petn-randall> And 256 colours!
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1502 [16:47:35] * peedabee is blown away, will have to try it next time!
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1507 [16:53:00] <Neobenedict> jelly: do i need LVM
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1509 [16:53:48] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: it's not a
requirement, but definitely a nice addition.
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1511 [16:54:02] <Neobenedict> so here is where I am at now
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1513 [16:54:08] <Neobenedict> I want to now add my partitions like
/ and /home etc
1514 [16:54:13] <Neobenedict> do I go to LVM?
1515 [16:54:57] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: Do you want LVM?
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1517 [16:55:39] <Neobenedict> i guess?
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1519 [16:55:39] <Neobenedict> idk
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1521 [16:56:35] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: LVM is nice because it
allows to snapshot filesystems, and move them to other disks if you
ever want to migrate to a faster RAID. It makes your setup more
complex, though.
1522 [16:56:49] <Neobenedict> snapshot filesystems for sure
1523 [16:56:51] <Neobenedict> since this is raid 0
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1525 [16:56:54] <Neobenedict> need those backups >.>
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1528 [16:57:17] <Neobenedict> so I install LVM, then how do I make
my / and /home partitions?
1529 [16:57:25] <Neobenedict> is that done within LVM?
1530 [16:57:28] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: Then you create a PV
over the whole RAID0, then create a LV each for / and /home.
1531 [16:57:30] <greycat> yes
1532 [16:57:37] <Neobenedict> ok so i will make lvm now
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1537 [17:02:34] <Neobenedict> does this look correct?
1538 [17:02:35] <Neobenedict>
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1539 [17:03:40] <jelly> Neobenedict: you do not need lvm. If you
want raid0 presumably you want to squeeze every possible ounce of
performance, and adding another layer won't help there.
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1541 [17:04:02] <jelly> so... why do you want raid0, Neobenedict?
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1543 [17:04:54] <jelly> and does this system boot with UEFI or
legacy boot firmware?
1544 [17:04:59] <Neobenedict> uefi
1545 [17:05:12] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: I wouldn't make
the filesystems so ginormous, 20 GB for / is already huge, unless
you plan on having huge databases also on /.
1546 [17:05:30] <jelly> then I'll withdraw from any
partitioning answers, don't know how UEFI and GPT as supposed
to look.
1547 [17:05:40] <Neobenedict> well
1548 [17:05:42] <Neobenedict> it can boot both
1549 [17:05:49] <Neobenedict> which should I use?
1550 [17:06:01] <jelly> whichever you know best
1551 [17:06:07] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: With LVM you can
always increase the LVM size on the fly, so you don't need to
make the partition so huge.
1552 [17:06:15] <Neobenedict> petn-randall: ok noted
1553 [17:06:19] <Neobenedict> and yeah i wanna play with lvm
1554 [17:06:27] <Neobenedict> now that i've learned about it
1555 [17:06:35] <petn-randall> hehehe
1556 [17:06:46] <petn-randall> Just remember to make regular
backups!
1557 [17:06:51] <Neobenedict> mhm
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1563 [17:07:52] <jelly> if it were legacy BIOS boot, and MBR
format and two disks, I'd suggest making a single 500MB
partition with md raid1 and metadata 0.9 format for /boot, put ext3
on top, and another huge partition for md raid0 and lvm PV and lvm.
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1566 [17:08:17] <petn-randall> metadata 0.9? I wouldn't touch
that with a 10-foot pole.
1567 [17:08:36] <petn-randall> You know it has alignment bugs,
that can be triggered, right?
1568 [17:09:01] <jelly> yes.
1569 [17:09:19] <jelly> I also know that is does not matter for
/boot at all
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1571 [17:09:35] <jelly> and that it gives a lot more boot loader
options if need be
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1573 [17:10:23] <jelly> /boot is not typically a fs that takes
thousands of iops in normal work
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1575 [17:11:25] <gkwhc> hey guys, i just made a udev rule &
script but it is not executing. how can i diagnose it?
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1577 [17:11:32] <Neobenedict> thats a little over my head jelly rn
lol
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1579 [17:12:05] <Neobenedict> is it worth making a lvm partition
for /boot
1580 [17:12:06] <petn-randall> jelly: "It is also possible
for there to be confusion about whether the superblock applies to a
whole device or just the last partition, if that partition starts on
a 64K boundary."
1581 [17:12:31] <jelly> petn-randall: show me an installation
where /boot is the LAST partition
1582 [17:12:45] <Neobenedict> probably mine all things considered
1583 [17:12:49] <Neobenedict> i'd mess it up like that
1584 [17:12:49] <Neobenedict> :D
1585 [17:12:52] <petn-randall> Meaning: If you have a mdadm
partition at 1MB, the kernel will assume the RAID spans the complete
disk.
1586 [17:13:04] <jelly> no installer will do that
1587 [17:13:12] <petn-randall> jelly: Sure, for /boot it's
not the case, but I'd just avoid that just to be safe.
1588 [17:13:21] <jelly> sure okay
1589 [17:13:37] <jelly> but then you can't use grub-legacy or
lilo.
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1591 [17:13:58] <greycat> people still use lilo?
1592 [17:14:03] <jelly> yes
1593 [17:14:08] <Neobenedict> does /boot need ext3?
1594 [17:14:18] <petn-randall> I'd like to meet that one
person.
1595 [17:14:48] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: grub2 can also read
ext4, but jelly is being extra-cautious.
1596 [17:15:00] <jelly> well maybe all your systems are up-to-date
and you never have to deal with anything legacy
1597 [17:15:12] <lambocrypt> petn-randall: i figureout the problem
...when i type aplay -l command on virtualbox debin it shows
intel8280 something ok but when i type on my desktop debian it says
no soundcards found...
1598 [17:15:26] <jelly> and never have only old rescue images
handy on some remote location
1599 [17:16:04] <jelly> but that specific setup provides a lot of
flexibility
1600 [17:16:25] <jelly> Neobenedict: it can also be ext2 :-)
1601 [17:16:32] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: You're still lost.
You still need to reinstall.
1602 [17:16:41] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: Have you reinstalled
yet?
1603 [17:17:06] <jelly> or use defaults and live with grub2,
that's probably just fine
1604 [17:17:47] <greycat> The vast majority of people would just
use the defaults.
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1606 [17:17:58] <lambocrypt> not bro becuz on my host system there
were so many useful files first i will try to fix if it isnt then i
will reinstall
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1608 [17:18:26] <jelly> lambocrypt: backup useful files,
reinstall, put them back
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1614 [17:20:45] <lambocrypt> me and one person on linux forum
having same problem and his issue got fixed by just reinstalling
kernel
1615 [17:20:47] <lambocrypt> :-)
1616 [17:21:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o petn-randall
1617 [17:21:36] *** petn-randall sets mode: +q *!*@103.48.57.147
1618 [17:21:36] *** petn-randall sets mode: -o petn-randall
1619 [17:21:44] <RoyK> lambocrypt: using kvm instead of vbox may
help a bit
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1621 [17:22:10] <RoyK> lambocrypt: virtualbox is an oracle product
and not especially well supported on debian, after all
1622 [17:22:52] <petn-randall> RoyK: It's irrelevant for
their issue. They've just run some random `./install.sh` as
root on their host system, hosed their Debian installation, and
against all better judgement refuse to reinstall, all the while
pestering the channel with non-sense info/questions.
1623 [17:23:13] <petn-randall> lambocrypt: Come back when you have
reinstalled. Or see if ##linux is willing to help.
1624 [17:23:32] <greycat> There appears to be a #vbox channel as
well.
1625 [17:23:35] <RoyK> petn-randall: hehe - sorry - didn't
read everything above ;)
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1627 [17:24:15] <RoyK> perhaps there's a #pebkac channel as
well…
1628 [17:24:19] <jelly> esp the +q part, when lambocrypt got muted
and is currently unable to comment further for a while
1629 [17:24:36] <petn-randall> Apparently 3 hours into the issue
they're comparing a VM installation with their hosed OS in hope
of finding out what happened, even though they don't remember
which install.sh they ran or where it came from.
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1631 [17:24:46] <jelly> RoyK: ALL the channels on freenode are
#pebcak
1632 [17:24:57] <RoyK> not really
1633 [17:24:58] <petn-randall> At this point they would have save
2 hours of their live if they just had reinstalled.
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1638 [17:28:30] <Neobenedict> okay
1639 [17:28:32] <Neobenedict> which kernel do i install
1640 [17:28:45] <greycat> ...
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1642 [17:28:47] <Neobenedict> linux-image-amd64 or
linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64
1643 [17:28:54] <greycat> They're the same.
1644 [17:29:00] <Neobenedict> then why are both listed :(
1645 [17:29:24] <greycat> linux-image-amd64 is like a symlink to
the "latest stable kernel" package, which at this very
moment happens to be linux-image-4.9.0-8-amd64
1646 [17:29:33] <Neobenedict> ah
1647 [17:29:34] <Neobenedict> thanks
1648 [17:29:34] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: One is a meta-package
depending on the latest kernel, the other is exactly that version.
1649 [17:30:45] <jelly> Neobenedict: install the one with the
shorter name.
1650 [17:30:53] <petn-randall> hehe
1651 [17:31:45] <jelly> and if the dumb partitioning tool wants to
span your /home over the WHOLE LVM volume group, do not let it
1652 [17:32:23] * jelly can't remember whether he searched for a
bug report about that or not, probably not
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1665 [17:45:11] <Ether_Man> Hi. I'm trying to follow along
with
replaced-url
1666 [17:45:11] <Ether_Man> kopano-server is sysconfig.txt and
apparmor.d dir.
replaced-url
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1668 [17:45:59] <greycat> you're looking at a /sid/ link ...
are you on sid?
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1670 [17:46:18] <Ether_Man> Yes
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1678 [17:47:30] <Ether_Man> No wait... Damn. I'm not,
I'm on testing... Damn it... I selected unstable >_<
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1681 [17:48:54] <petn-randall> Ether_Man: At least both package
versions seem to be the same, so the results should be the same.
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1688 [17:52:08] <ssarah> hei, is there a way to see color in
manpages ?
1689 [17:52:27] <ssarah> (through a ssh session)
1690 [17:52:58] <greycat> Same way you see colors locally.
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1692 [17:53:03] <chrono> #debian ♥︎️
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1699 [17:56:06] <petn-randall> ssarah: By default man pages
don't come with colours.
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1701 [17:56:44] <ssarah> petn-randall i did it using the apt
install most; export PAGER=most thing
1702 [17:56:51] <ssarah> was wondering if there was a more
standard way
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1706 [17:58:09] <Ether_Man> There, now I'm on sid properly
with upgraded package but still missing files. Even reinstalling the
package doesn't seem to install the example configs :/
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1709 [17:58:40] <petn-randall> ssarah: Oh nice, I didn't
notice that. I guess for it to work over SSH, you need to set the
correct XTERM.
1710 [17:58:43] <petn-randall> !xterm
1711 [17:58:44] <dpkg> xterm is a terminal emulator for the X
Window System.
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1712 [17:58:59] <petn-randall> err, TERM
1713 [17:59:01] <petn-randall> !term
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1716 [17:59:59] <Asdp> Hello people.
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1721 [18:01:47] <Asdp> Can anyone help me? Need to reset Debian 8
Env's. I messed up the problem is: root@server:/root# cd |
-bash: cd: HOME not set
1722 [18:02:13] <petn-randall> Asdp: How did you break it?
1723 [18:02:19] <greycat> Log out and back in.
1724 [18:02:42] <petn-randall> Asdp: If you just set it wrong in
the terminal, greycat's advice is enough.
1725 [18:02:44] <Asdp> i think when i've done: source
/etc/apache2/envvars
1726 [18:02:51] <greycat> HOME should be set by the login stuff,
whether sshd or getty+login or systemd-logind.
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1728 [18:03:46] <Asdp> oh
1729 [18:03:58] <Asdp> thanks greycat :)
1730 [18:04:06] <Asdp> and you guys.
1731 [18:04:25] <greycat> sourcing a file will execute all of the
commands in that file in the current shell, which could do anything
at all to the current shell, but hopefully not to the passwd file
1732 [18:04:48] <Asdp> im feeling better now
1733 [18:04:55] <Asdp> logging out and back in fixed the problem
1734 [18:05:28] <Asdp> Im trying out to block the Tor network
1735 [18:05:47] <Neobenedict> ok this is a disaster already
1736 [18:05:49] <Neobenedict> where does /boot go
1737 [18:05:53] <Neobenedict> on the LVM?
1738 [18:05:57] <Neobenedict> there is nowhere else I can put it
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1740 [18:06:00] <Asdp> cuz im getting a lot of DoS attacks throwt
Pyloris...
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1742 [18:07:25] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: I'd keep it on a
separate RAID1 partition in front of your RAID0. You can also put it
on your RAID0+LVM, but any breakage there will make grub2 not work
anymore.
1743 [18:07:49] <Neobenedict> yes but I get grub fatal error
petn-randall
1744 [18:07:52] <Neobenedict> when trying to install grub
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1750 [18:09:54] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: What error exactly? It
might happen if you didn't create partitions on your two disks
but used both naked disks as members of RAID0.
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1752 [18:10:12] <Neobenedict> no error
1753 [18:10:15] <Neobenedict> just says fatal error
1754 [18:10:37] <Neobenedict> spews some garbage about EFI even
though I am not installing nor booting using EFI
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1756 [18:10:46] <Neobenedict> selecting yes or no results in same
fatal error
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1758 [18:11:29] <jelly> debian installer miht THINK you're
booting using UEFI
1759 [18:11:44] * Neobenedict cries
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1768 [18:14:16] <jelly> (but then you need like 1 or 2 more
partitions, one EF00 type for efi vars and boot loaders, and maybe
one more for grub's stage2? No idea)
1769 [18:14:52] <jelly> I don't even know how to force
debian-installer to use the MBR/BIOS boot way or the GPT/UEFI way
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1772 [18:16:47] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: Do you have any other
OS installed?
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1774 [18:17:08] <Neobenedict> no
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1790 [18:26:10] <jelly> Neobenedict: are your devices larger than
2TiB or smaller?
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1794 [18:26:46] <Neobenedict> smaller
1795 [18:26:53] <Neobenedict> trying again
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1799 [18:27:34] <petn-randall> Neobenedict: If you can, show us
the actual error message. We might give you pointers to what went
wrong.
1800 [18:27:51] <bites> does the boot setting in bios actually say
"lagacy" or something like "legacy first"?
1801 [18:28:10] <choice> Hello! Is it normal that after a fresh
install, root has a very different .profile then other users?
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1804 [18:29:05] <petn-randall> choice: sounds plausible to me.
1805 [18:29:16] <Neobenedict> the error is
1806 [18:29:34] <choice> petn-randall: Why?
1807 [18:29:35] <Neobenedict> Unable to install GRUB in
/dev/mapper. "Executing grub-install /dev/mapper failed".
This is a fatal error.
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1810 [18:30:06] <jelly> Neobenedict: you should install grub to
/dev/sda and /dev/sdb, not /dev/mapper/anything
1811 [18:30:21] <Neobenedict> ok i will manually specify that
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1816 [18:31:23] <jelly> whichever /dev/sd* devices currently map
to your HDDs or SSDs (watch out not to install to usb stick if
debian-installer is booted from one)
1817 [18:31:25] <choice> petn-randall: The difference is that the
normal users .profile sets PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" and
PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH" if those files exists. The
root users .profile does not do that. I wonder why.
1818 [18:31:36] <Neobenedict> jelly: install on both SSDs?
1819 [18:31:38] <Neobenedict> or just one of them?
1820 [18:31:41] <Neobenedict> in raid 0
1821 [18:32:08] <jelly> well for raid0 it does not really matter,
if you lose one you'll lose all data anyway
1822 [18:32:13] <greycat> because you shouldn't be logging in
as root and creating personal ~root/bin/foobar programs
1823 [18:32:36] <jelly> choice: because root can put their own
custom stuff in /usr/local/sbin anyway
1824 [18:33:04] <choice> jelly: And root would normally do that
and users would normally put their stuff in
/home/username/bin"?
1825 [18:33:33] <jelly> choice: that's where custom tools to
be used only by admin go, yes
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1828 [18:33:49] <greycat> root should NOT have a personally
customized tool set because you should not be logging in as root for
ordinary day-to-day work
1829 [18:34:00] <choice> jelly: /usr/local/sbin?
1830 [18:34:05] <jelly> yes
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1832 [18:34:09] <mtn> same as he was told in the mint channel ;)
1833 [18:34:21] <jelly> there's a Mint channel on freenode
now?
1834 [18:34:26] <choice> jelly: Why not /root/sbin/ then?
1835 [18:34:42] <greycat> *plonk*
1836 [18:34:43] <mtn> jelly: nope, but there is one on spotchat
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1838 [18:34:53] <jelly> choice: because it's not
standardized, and is not present in root's default PATH
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1840 [18:35:02] <choice> jelly: I see.
1841 [18:35:32] <choice> So it's kind of a historical thing.
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1843 [18:35:45] <jelly> there's zero reason to make a second
nonstandard path member just for root when one already exists
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1845 [18:35:53] <annadane> any opinions on
replaced-url
1846 [18:36:08] <jelly> does tldp.org work again?
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1848 [18:36:35] <greycat> abs is notoriously riddled with bad
advice
1849 [18:36:41] <Neobenedict> thank you jelly
1850 [18:36:46] <ksk> annadane: tldp is crap and teaches you to
write bugs.
1851 [18:36:47] <annadane> all right, noted
1852 [18:36:48] <jelly> annadane: I would trust that wooly person
as far as I can throw a grey cat!
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1859 [18:39:51] <choice> jelly: None of my machines has anything
in /usr/local/sbin/. Is only stuff in there that one puts in
manually?
1860 [18:39:59] <jelly> choice: yes
1861 [18:40:16] <choice> jelly: Interesting.
1862 [18:40:47] <jelly> that's pretty much the definition of
the whole /usr/local in FHS or FSSTND
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1864 [18:40:57] <choice> On my Debian machines, there is also
nothing in /usr/local/bin/. On my Mint machines, there is some
stuff.
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1867 [18:41:57] <jelly> can't comment on derivative
distro's adherence to any standards
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1871 [18:43:17] <choice> Is there documentation about the
/usr/local/ subdirs somewhere?
1872 [18:43:22] <jelly> !fhs
1873 [18:43:22] <dpkg> Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy
Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application.
This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a
read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See
replaced-url
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1875 [18:44:06] <choice> jelly: Thanks! Interesting.
1876 [18:44:40] <Tom-_> !lsb
1877 [18:44:40] <dpkg> [lsb] Debian is dropping LSB support; see
replaced-url
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1907 [19:05:37] <rydare> Im having issues with grub. trying to do
the netinstall for testing
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1909 [19:06:12] <rydare> no errors reported when installing or
reinstalling grub
1910 [19:06:55] <rydare> but the computer cant find the drive in
the boot menu
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1912 [19:07:27] <rydare> its efi, im trying the install again and
formatting the egi partition
1913 [19:07:32] <rydare> *efi
1914 [19:08:00] <rydare> since some old linux grubs were showing
up
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1938 [19:23:36] <rydare> fixed it
1939 [19:24:00] <rydare> i think the old entries in efi were
messing it up
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1969 [19:37:53] <Neobenedict> can someone please help me with
bonding, i get the error "bond0: option mode: unable to set
because the bond device has slaves" i want 802.3ad / LACP
bonding here
1970 [19:37:57] <Neobenedict>
replaced-url
1971 [19:38:02] <Neobenedict> of /etc/network/interfaces
1972 [19:38:08] <Neobenedict>
replaced-url
1973 [19:38:15] <Neobenedict> cannot pastebin because this has no
working internet :p
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1983 [19:44:10] <Neobenedict> ok removing those interface enps__
stuff seems to have made it work
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2036 [20:30:51] <Azrael_-> hi
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2038 [20:31:02] <Azrael_-> i am running postfix mail server and
when testing the server is on no black lists. however still a lot of
the recipients tell me my mail went into spam folder. how can i
test/analyze/solve this?
2039 [20:31:41] <sorko999> I've found making sure you have
SPF records for all outbound domains helps.
2040 [20:32:59] <sorko999> Actually before that, make sure your IP
address is properly resolving both ways
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2042 [20:33:33] <Azrael_-> k, the ips are already resolving fine
2043 [20:33:47] <Azrael_-> for spf i have to change my
infrastructure a little bit
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2045 [20:35:14] <sorko999> google in particular is starting to
defer a lot sooner if the domain doesn't have an SPF. Better if
you can set up DKIM as well. That takes a few more steps of
course...
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2052 [20:37:45] <Azrael_-> yeah, already read those things up.
hoped i could avoid it
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2063 [20:43:04] <Azrael_-> thanks for the hints
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2116 [21:38:23] <cleerline> Hi, I am currently running linux and
want to setup linux on a new parition
2117 [21:38:28] <cleerline> I just got a new SSD
2118 [21:38:56] <cleerline> I formated it
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2120 [21:39:20] <cleerline> Now I want to use debootstrap to
install debian (or anything really) on to it
2121 [21:39:35] <cleerline> Is this the right place to ask
questions about this?
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2130 [21:43:38] <nkuttler> cleerline: sure. personally, i would
just use the normal debian installer..
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2132 [21:44:29] <cleerline> I have no DVD/CD or USB at the moment
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2134 [21:44:34] <cleerline> so I cant use the installer
2135 [21:44:38] <nkuttler> i see
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2143 [21:47:40] <cleerline> somedthimg came up. back later
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2164 [22:03:16] <Benedict> how do i map python3 -m cython to
/usr/bin/cython3?
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2166 [22:03:58] <Benedict> sudo ln -s '/usr/bin/python3 -m
cython' /usr/bin/cython3
2167 [22:03:59] <Benedict> this does not work
2168 [22:04:05] <greycat> dear gods
2169 [22:04:23] <greycat> What you want is a shell script, not a
shell command as the target of a symnlink.
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2171 [22:05:05] <greycat> printf '#!/bin/sh\nexec
/usr/bin/python3 -m cython "$@"\n' >
/usr/local/bin/cython3 && chmod 755 "$_"
2172 [22:06:05] <Benedict> ty
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2174 [22:10:12] <HeXiLeD> jezzz! vlc version installed in this
machine is 1.3 ?!? Version: 1:3.0.3-dmo1+deb9u2. debian 9. what repo
can be used to get at least version 2?
2175 [22:11:43] <ksk> ,version vlc
2176 [22:11:44] <judd> Package: vlc on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; jessie:
2.2.7-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.2.7-1~deb8u1; stretch:
2.2.7-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 3.0.2-0+deb9u1;
stretch-security: 3.0.2-0+deb9u1; buster: 3.0.3-1-3+b1; sid:
3.0.3-1-3+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo3+deb7u2;
jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.8-dmo1+deb8u1; stretch-
2177 [22:11:45] <judd> multimedia: 1:3.0.2-dmo1+deb9u2;
buster-multimedia: 1:3.0.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:3.0.4-dmo1
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2180 [22:13:05] <HeXiLeD> stretch security repos
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2182 [22:13:29] <ksk> HeXiLeD: I cannot really explain why, but I
think that 1: is part of a debian naming convention, and your vlc is
version 3.0.3 ;)
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2184 [22:13:54] <greycat> !epoch
2185 [22:13:54] <dpkg> [epoch] a fixed point in a chronology or
the start of an era. For example, y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. In
Unix, epoch often refers to the time from which seconds are counted;
epoch was is Jan 1 1970 and we will run out of 32 bit numbers for
this on Jan 18 2038 (by which time we will have hopefully all
migrated to 64-bit architectures). An epoch can also be used to help
manage version numbering in Debian; ask me about <version
epoch>.
2186 [22:13:56] <wswld> Not related to previous question but does
Sid have security updates repos?
2187 [22:14:00] <greycat> god damn it
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2189 [22:14:04] <greycat> !version epoch
2190 [22:14:04] <dpkg> The version number of a package has a
prepended number called the "epoch". It is only added when
the system for upstream version numbers changes. Example: in sarge,
X was version 6.8 but in etch it was 1.1 (xfree86->xorg). But 1
< 6, so we add an epoch "2:" to signify that everything
with 2: is newer (if there is no : the epoch is assumed to be
"0"). See section 5.6.12 of <policy> or ask me about
<compare versions> <debian revision>.
2191 [22:15:08] <ksk> grey-cat to the rescue :)
2192 [22:16:21] <ksk> wswld: no, there is no security
team/repo/support for sid. thats one of the reasons one should maybe
not use it (in production)
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2194 [22:16:53] <greycat> Just in case it being called
"unstable" somehow wasn't enough.
2195 [22:17:08] <ksk> !tell wswld about sid security
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2198 [22:18:02] <wswld> Nah, I'm using it as a personal
machine, I have Testing on the VPS
2199 [22:18:25] <awal1> wswld, sid have security support done by
maintainers/DD's directly for the pkgs they maintain. Stable
have a special security team
2200 [22:18:36] <awal1> not sure about testing
2201 [22:19:00] <ksk> !tell wswld about testing security
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2203 [22:19:28] <ksk> !testing security
2204 [22:19:28] <dpkg> Security updates in testing are delayed by
the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing
dependencies, etc. See
replaced-url
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2206 [22:19:38] <ksk> as the question arised ;)
2207 [22:20:21] <wswld> dpkg, thanks!
2208 [22:20:22] <dpkg> no worries, wswld
2209 [22:21:01] <at0m> wswld: dpkg is a factoid bot
2210 [22:21:30] <awal1> dpkg: dpkg
2211 [22:21:30] <dpkg> rumour has it, dpkg is the program used by
Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also
ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also
called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
2212 [22:21:44] <at0m> !dpkgbot
2213 [22:21:45] <dpkg> Please visit
replaced-url
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2215 [22:22:05] <scwizard> any ideas how I'd set up
systemd-resolved to listen on 127.0.0.53?
2216 [22:22:14] <scwizard> "Additionally, systemd-resolved
provides a local DNS stub listener on IP address 127.0.0.53 on the
local loopback interface. Programs issuing DNS requests directly,
bypassing any local API may be directed to this stub, in order to
connect them to systemd-resolved." <- from systemd docs
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2222 [22:27:21] <HeXiLeD> ksk: you are correct
2223 [22:29:04] <ksk> thats good to know. see dpkgs comment about
version epoch to get to know why there is a leading "1:"
2224 [22:29:13] <teclo-> evening, ffmpeg says "Unknown
encoder 'mp3lame'" and also Unknown encoder
'mp3' ... how do I extract audio to mp3 with this ?
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2228 [22:30:57] <ksk> teclo-: your debian version is? IIRC in the
past ffmpeg in the repos did not have mp3 because it is nonfree. Im
however using ffmpeg from the standard repos on debian9 and have no
problems handling mp3.
2229 [22:32:01] <ksk> teclo-: nvermind, its named
"libmp3lame", try that.
2230 [22:32:04] <teclo-> ksk: this is 7.11 on an old machine, that
I keep in order to run ffmpeg
2231 [22:32:28] <greycat> ... seems like a bizarre thing.
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2233 [22:32:43] <teclo-> ksk: indeed with libmp3lame it works
2234 [22:32:57] <greycat> Why would you need to keep an old
version of Debian around to run ffmpeg if your ffmpeg MP3 encoding
isn't even working?
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2236 [22:33:02] <ksk> up2date debian versions have ffmpeg, too..
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2238 [22:33:32] <teclo-> greycat: well I know ffmpeg isn't in
8.x
2239 [22:33:37] <greycat> ,v ffmpeg
2240 [22:33:38] <judd> Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- wheezy:
6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.21-0+deb7u1; jessie-backports:
7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; buster: 7:4.0.2-1+b1; sid:
7:4.0.2-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia:
10:2.6.9-dmo1; stretch-multimedia: 10:3.3.7-dmo1+deb9u1;
buster-multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2;
2241 [22:33:39] <judd> sid-multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2
2242 [22:34:07] <greycat> Interesting. Well, it's in stretch,
and in jessie-backports.
2243 [22:34:12] <ksk> wasnt there a fork in debian8, with a
different name?
2244 [22:34:16] <ksk> ,v libav
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2246 [22:34:17] <judd> No package named 'libav' was
found in amd64.
2247 [22:34:20] <ksk> mhhm.
2248 [22:34:22] <teclo-> greycat: indeed, sorry
2249 [22:34:40] <teclo-> well I've alreaedy burned the DVD
with Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 but haven't installed it yet
2250 [22:34:45] <teclo-> I should have
2251 [22:35:24] <somiaj> ksk: yes, there was an idea of a split
between libav and ffmpeg, but they are both around now.
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2260 [22:45:19] <greycat> dpkg's libav factoid seems to say
that there *was* something called libav but judd doesn't seem
to know about it...?
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2265 [22:49:00] <greycat> ,v libav-tools
2266 [22:49:01] <judd> Package: libav-tools on amd64 -- wheezy:
6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.21-0+deb7u1; jessie:
6:11.12-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 6:11.12-1~deb8u1;
jessie-backports: 7:3.2.5-1~bpo8+1; jessie-backports:
7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; wheezy-multimedia:
8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1
2267 [22:49:15] <greycat>
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2268 [22:49:38] <Kelsar> ah, that stupid fork
2269 [22:50:02] <RoyK> , ffmpeg
2270 [22:50:08] <RoyK> ,v ffmpeg
2271 [22:50:09] <judd> Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- wheezy:
6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.21-0+deb7u1; jessie-backports:
7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; buster: 7:4.0.2-1+b1; sid:
7:4.0.2-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia:
10:2.6.9-dmo1; stretch-multimedia: 10:3.3.7-dmo1+deb9u1;
buster-multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2; sid-
2272 [22:50:10] <judd> multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2
2273 [22:51:09] <RoyK> not sure which is best atm - iirc the libav
fork was somewhat a hostile takeover rather than a "usual"
fork
2274 [22:52:06] <greycat>
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2282 [22:56:05] <greycat>
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2296 [23:06:27] <blackbit> hi. kernel 4.18 is out for a while,
though there is no package yet even in experimental. why is that?
there is a linux-image-4.18.0-trunk-amd64 but i don't know what
'trunk' means
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2310 [23:14:07] <alchvmist> Hello all
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2316 [23:17:42] <Ryz3qdsfW4go> anyone use tigervnc?
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2321 [23:28:27] <awal1> !kernel abi
2322 [23:28:28] <dpkg> Debian kernel packages have an <ABI>
to indicate when out-of-tree modules must be rebuilt; upgrading from
a package with 3.2.0-3-amd64 to another 3.2.0-3-amd64 doesn't
require fglrx/nvidia/etc to be rebuilt, but upgrading from
3.2.0-3-amd64 to 3.2.0-4-amd64 does. Development kernels intended
for <experimental> have the ABI <trunk> to indicate the
ABI is unmanaged.
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2323 [23:28:38] <awal1> blackbit see ^
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2327 [23:30:38] <tacocat> !ask
2328 [23:30:39] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
2329 [23:30:44] <tacocat> Ryz3qdsfW4go, ^
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2332 [23:31:59] <mixfix41> figured the sbc issue it has to do with
being compiled with an older version of glibc speicifically 2.25 and
was compiling using 2.27 :)
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2334 [23:32:22] <Azrael_-> i want to use sfp for my domains. but
if i want to forward emails the forwarding will fail if the
forwarder is another server. i have multiple servers all as
subdomains like *.myserver.com. is it possible to include all of
them without explicitly enumerating them in the sfp entry?
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2339 [23:37:06] <blackbit> awal1: thx
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2343 [23:45:01] <hanetzer> url for ya'lls 'source'
package?
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2357 [23:54:30] <awal1> hanetzer ?
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2359 [23:55:18] <hanetzer> awal1: the scripts and stuff ya'll
use for making *.deb packages, where can I see them?
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2361 [23:56:50] <awal1> hanetzer
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2364 [23:58:45] <hanetzer> aye, that's it. and that's so
obvious I shoulda guessed :P
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