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1[00:01:06] <maxm3232> apache is running on the server i guess
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2[00:01:07] <maxm3232>
replaced-url
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3[00:01:14] <maxm3232> cant use pastebin anymore lol
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4[00:02:05] <tds> do you have access to the reverse proxy?
being able to see what it's actually trying to connect to would
probably be useful
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5[00:02:55] <Lady_Aleena> dist-upgrade better not touch
$HOME/perl5/lib/perl5
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8[00:03:30] <maxm3232> tds: I think so, is there any way to
find out the server address?
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9[00:03:31] <Tom-_> nothing touches anything under ~ after the
directory is created by adduser/useradd
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11[00:03:57] <Tom-_> not a debian process, none that i know of
anyway
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12[00:03:58] <tds> maxm3232: `host
firewall.junior-comtec.hg.tu-darmstadt.de` will get you the IP
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15[00:06:55] <Schwarzbaer_> Hi. I just upgraded according to
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17[00:07:08] <maxm3232> tds: What should I do if I'm on
the server? Or how can I check if I'm on the right one where
the reverse proxy is?
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18[00:07:37] <tds> read the webserver config, apache2ctl -S
might be a good starting point again
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20[00:07:57] <tds> also, this conversation should probably be
in #httpd at this point
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22[00:08:44] <jmcnaught> Schwarzbaer_: Debian 9 comes with
Python 3.5. Also you cannot install testing packages on a stable
system.
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27[00:10:18] <Tom-_> well you and like 100 million other people
find packages in Debian stable too old. you can try a newer debian
(less secure) or backports (apparently less tested) or build
yourself or maybe some other APT source (frankendebian?)
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28[00:10:24] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, I meant that to you
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30[00:12:20] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks. I think I'll just try
upgrading to buster. Python3 isn't the only thing holding me
back, Mesa is as well.
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31[00:12:27] <maxm3232> tds: could it be on this server? got
this wen I typed apache2ctl -S:
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34[00:13:00] <tds> could be, it's your infrastructure, you
should know ;)
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39[00:14:39] <maxm3232> I guess so :'D I would have to ask
someone else, and I might come back tomorrow, nevertheless thanks so
much for everyone here for helping me and others
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45[00:15:31] <tds> it this is for work, you should definitely
find someone more familiar with their infrastructure, or see if
there's internal documentation
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46[00:15:49] <tds> or get good at digging through undocumented
boxes and figuring out what they're doing and how they work :)
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52[00:16:53] <maxm3232> Nothing is documented and the people
who implemented it are all gone, atm I'm trying to find someone
who is more familiar with debian in general, but till then I have to
deal with this lol but thanks!
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53[00:17:25] <tds> ah, the latter option then :D
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54[00:17:44] <tds> and it sounds like you've discovered
another wheezy box to upgrade in the process of diagnosing this one
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55[00:19:16] <maxm3232> yes but a lot of important stuff is
running on that one, I won't try to upgrade it, at least not
alone
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58[00:20:43] <Schwarzbaer_> ...and I encountered an error
during upgrade. What log does this refer to?
replaced-url
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63[00:21:27] <Tom-_> i don't know what appstream is
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65[00:22:12] <Tom-_> part of GNOME or depended on by gnome
apparently
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72[00:28:56] <Lady_Aleena> Son of a B****! My graphics card is
causing problems now. How can I run this computer without the nvidia
driver? The Nouveau drivers don't work with my card.
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75[00:29:41] <Tom-_> well just vesa or fbdev drivers will work,
but let's try to fix the nvidia driver
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77[00:30:29] <Lady_Aleena> I am being asked if I want to
install the nvidia driver even thought, supposedly, my graphics card
is unsupported.
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80[00:31:09] <Lady_Aleena> So, do I want to install the nvidia
driver just in case?
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81[00:31:12] <Tom-_> you can install the nvidia-detect package
after the upgrade is over and follow its instructions
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82[00:31:34] <Tom-_> i'd like to see a screen paste
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83[00:31:45] <Tom-_> i guess i'd say no, i think i tried
that before on another computer
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85[00:32:27] <Lady_Aleena> LEt's hope that I can see my
screen upon reboot.
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86[00:32:59] <Lady_Aleena> And I got an error and dist-upgrade
quit.
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87[00:33:22] <Lady_Aleena> I guess I should have said yes.
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89[00:33:32] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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90[00:33:54] <Tom-_> let me look at it
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92[00:34:33] <Lady_Aleena> Here it is, a little more complete:
replaced-url
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94[00:35:00] * Tom-_ wonders what you're supposed to do
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96[00:35:31] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, maybe we should just install
the appropriate nvidia driver right now, what do you say? if so,
apt-get install nvidia-detect
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97[00:35:47] <Tom-_> and then resume the dist-upgrade
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100[00:36:26] <Lady_Aleena> And that had errors:
replaced-url
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101[00:36:34] <kevinnn> hi all, can anyone tell me how to tell
if a certain network device (like eth0) is an ethernet device or a
wireless device?
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102[00:36:58] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, okay let's try to finish
the dist-upgrade. please run dpkg --configure -a and answer any
questions...
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103[00:37:07] <indomitable> so what's the best replacement
for docker?
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104[00:37:13] <indomitable> since it's now 100% insecure
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105[00:37:15] <kevinnn> for example I can tell if a network
device is wireless depending on whether or not
/sys/class/net/<device>/wireless exists
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106[00:37:29] <Tom-_> kevinnn, i think wireless devices are
wlan0 and not eth0
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107[00:37:41] <Tom-_> in the old network card naming scheme
(pre-systemd?)
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108[00:37:51] <kevinnn> Tom-_ that is not always the case
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109[00:37:54] <Lady_Aleena> Tom-_, what does that do, resume
dist-upgrade?
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110[00:38:07] <kevinnn> you cannot tell simply based on the name
of the card
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111[00:38:25] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, dpkg --configure -a
configures any partially installed packages, it's designed to
help you finish the dist-upgrade ... someties it will just tell you
to do that anyway
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112[00:39:20] <Tom-_> kevinnn, i've heard your question
before but i don't remember the answer, i'd just web
search it
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113[00:39:41] <Tom-_> dpkg, what's my wireless
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114[00:39:41] <dpkg> Install the hwinfo package and execute
"/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or
replaced-url
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120[00:44:04] <Lady_Aleena> Errors were encountered while
processing:
replaced-url
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121[00:45:46] <Tom-_> okay rerun apt-get upgrade now
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123[00:46:34] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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124[00:47:12] <Lady_Aleena> So follow directions and run apt-get
install -f?
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125[00:47:22] <Lady_Aleena> Or apt-get -f install?
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126[00:47:46] <Tom-_> sure
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128[00:48:10] <Tom-_> i haven't met an apt problem i
couldn't figure my way out of for a very long time, don't
worry
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130[00:50:10] <Lady_Aleena> I'm surprised no one else is
getting tired of this.
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131[00:50:22] <Lady_Aleena> And now apt-get upgrade again?
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132[00:50:34] <Tom-_> sure
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133[00:50:53] <Tom-_> if we Debian bigots got tired of technical
tediousness i don't think Debian would exist
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134[00:51:01] <Tom-_> selection bias
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136[00:51:58] <Lady_Aleena> I hope someone from the Buster
development team has been watching this to see the trouble I'm
having with something that should have been simple.
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137[00:52:39] <Tom-_> i think there's not exactly a team,
just Debian developers, but i feel you
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138[00:53:32] <Tom-_> i think the rdnssd-related bug and the
nvidia-legacy-check erroring just because you say no maybe
doesn't work
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141[00:54:33] <Lady_Aleena> Should I run dist-upgrade again
because upgrade had like 300+ packages it was holding back?
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142[00:56:05] <Tom-_> yep
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144[00:56:18] <Tom-_> i should have said dist-upgrade the last
two times i said upgrade, but it doesn't harm anything
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147[00:56:42] <Schwarzbaer_> Tom-_, from #gnome: "looks
like the warning are from debian specific data, i'd try asking
in a debian channel"
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149[00:57:10] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, ah crap sorry, i didn't
know you'd go in a #gnome channel :)
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150[00:57:11] * Lady_Aleena tries to relax.
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151[00:57:31] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, i can try to help you after
a while
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152[00:57:53] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, you should relax, everything
should be good
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153[00:58:06] <Lady_Aleena> Tom-_, I always expect the worst.
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154[00:58:23] * Tom-_ thinks of Windows 98 and philosophises
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155[00:58:24] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks. I do have a bit of time.
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157[00:59:08] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, you can try upgrading anyway
and just ignoring the appstream error
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158[00:59:13] <Lady_Aleena> This time I said yes about the video
driver, and so far so good.
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159[00:59:15] <Tom-_> i don't think it does much
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160[00:59:41] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, remember to add nvidia-detect
to the list of packages you should install after the dist-upgrade
completes its run
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161[00:59:47] <Schwarzbaer_> Tom-_, will do.
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166[01:04:06] <Lady_Aleena> My list so far: LibreOffice, Geany,
InkScape, nVidia-detect, and chromium. Can you remember anything
else?
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167[01:05:31] <Tom-_> no. double check that audio works in VLC,
if you use VLC, afterwards
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169[01:06:00] <Lady_Aleena> That is on my list to check (after
reboot?).
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173[01:07:52] <Tom-_> sure
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175[01:08:30] <Tom-_> it's possible you could file a bug
report on nvidia-legacy-check
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176[01:08:46] <Tom-_> say that it makes no sense to interrupt
the install if you say no, seeing as you're just doing what it
tells you to
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177[01:09:09] <Tom-_> i'm just trying to follow up your
thought on hoping the debian developers are watching
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178[01:09:33] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, task-kde-desktop should be on
your list
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182[01:12:47] <Lady_Aleena> To check or install?
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184[01:13:24] <Tom-_> install. i'd just put all of those
packages in one line after your dist-upgrade is done, apt-get
install task-kde-desktop chromium etc
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192[01:18:56] <Lady_Aleena> So, before I run the installation of
these six packages, should I run either upgrade or dist-upgrade
again just to be safe?
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194[01:19:56] <Tom-_> sure! :)
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196[01:20:40] <Tom-_> also after you install nvidia-detect,
please run nvidia-detect and follow its instructions. this should
get 3D working on your video card
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202[01:23:12] <Lady_Aleena> Should I do autoremove?
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203[01:23:39] * Lady_Aleena does it.
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204[01:23:47] <Tom-_> probably
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205[01:25:03] <Lady_Aleena> Oh good guh! What is lightdm and
sddm?
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206[01:25:13] <Tom-_> new graphical login managers
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207[01:25:20] <Lady_Aleena> Which do I want?
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208[01:25:25] <Tom-_> i haven't sddm. do you have kdm?
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209[01:25:32] <Lady_Aleena> Yes
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210[01:25:37] <dvs> sddm then
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211[01:25:43] <dvs> It's the new login window
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214[01:26:00] <Tom-_> maybe go with sddm
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215[01:26:13] <Lady_Aleena> I hope I can change it later if I
don't like it.
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216[01:26:20] <Tom-_> you can! :)
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220[01:29:38] <Lady_Aleena> I'm going to try installing
nvidia-detect by itself since I had trouble the last time.
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221[01:29:45] <Tom-_> ok
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222[01:30:48] <Tom-_> i think i was in error to make that
suggestion the last time, but you can do it that way if you want to
:) It's a free operating system, and i hope you're in a
free country :^)
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224[01:30:53] <Tom-_> i hardly ever use that emoticon
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227[01:31:25] <Lady_Aleena> I don't see emoticons, just
characters strung together in hexchat.
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229[01:35:21] <Lady_Aleena> I keep seeing the following crop up
and don't know why or what firmware it is looking for:
replaced-url
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230[01:36:19] <Tom-_> me neither. you said you needed no
firmware at the beginning right? if you got your computer working
before, you probably don't need this tg3 thing
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234[01:36:50] <Lady_Aleena> I don't even know where it came
from.
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236[01:38:02] <jmcnaught> It's for an ethernet card, the
firmware files are in the firmware-misc-nonfree package
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239[01:38:27] <jmcnaught> If ethernet already works then the
firmware probably just enables some extra features.
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240[01:38:47] <Lady_Aleena> What should have taken an hour,
maybe an hour and a half, has taken nearly 8 hours and the patience
of so many saintly people in here.
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241[01:39:11] <Lady_Aleena> Today has made me love the Debian
community more.
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242[01:39:17] <Tom-_> and me!
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245[01:40:03] <Lady_Aleena> Tom-_, you have repaid me in full
today, and then some, for my little bit of help on your website.
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246[01:40:19] <Tom-_> no problem
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248[01:41:04] <Lady_Aleena> ,v geany
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249[01:41:05] <judd> Package: geany on amd64 -- jessie:
1.24.1+dfsg-1; stretch: 1.29-1; buster: 1.33-1; sid: 1.34.1-1
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254[01:47:08] <Lady_Aleena> Now, apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade,
and autoremove all return "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
remove and 0 not upgraded." so, should I reboot? If yes, are
you ready for my complete pms-fueled mental break down when
something doesn't work as expect?
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256[01:47:36] <Lady_Aleena> s/expect/expected/;
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257[01:48:27] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: did you reinstall those
packages you were mentioning earlier?
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259[01:49:29] <Tom-_> yeah that
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261[01:49:52] <Tom-_> i think i'd like to make sure you
have a kernel installed too, apt-get install linux-image-amd64
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263[01:50:22] <jmcnaught> and task-kde-desktop which should pull
in a display manager
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269[01:54:24] <Lady_Aleena> task-kde-desktop was already on the
latest version when I went to install it; nvidia-detect has been
installed and run and directions followed from its results; chromium
was installed with a rerun of dist-upgrade; libreoffice, geany (and
geany-plugins), and inkscape were all installed as well.
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272[01:55:22] <Tom-_> can you please run apt-get install
linux-image-amd64 and if that works i would say reboot
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273[01:55:24] <Lady_Aleena> And I am going to put my spaghetti
sauce together before I do anything else.
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274[01:55:30] <Tom-_> okay
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275[01:55:38] <Lady_Aleena> In about 10 minutes.
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293[02:05:50] <Lady_Aleena> Installing linux-image-amd64 now
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297[02:06:51] <Lady_Aleena> And here is the output:
replaced-url
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298[02:06:58] <indomitable> Lady_Aleena, well stop it
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299[02:07:15] <Lady_Aleena> indomitable, stop what?
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300[02:07:22] <indomitable> breaking stuff
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301[02:07:37] <indomitable> read your logs
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302[02:07:53] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, apt-get install
linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64
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303[02:07:54] <indomitable> you need to inform your
kernelsourcedir about where you're gonna find it
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304[02:07:59] <indomitable> or that
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305[02:08:00] <indomitable> sounds easier
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306[02:08:24] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, that doesn't seem to be
an error
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307[02:08:37] <Tom-_> oh i see the error now. yeah, do what dvs
says.
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310[02:09:46] <Lady_Aleena> Shouldn't that have come with
dist-upgrade?
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311[02:09:55] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, maybe you can install
firmware-misc-nonfree too. who knows, you might need it
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312[02:10:24] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, you'd think so
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313[02:11:17] <indomitable> Tom-_, HISS
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314[02:11:19] <indomitable> non-free
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315[02:11:19] <indomitable> HISS
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317[02:11:34] <Lady_Aleena> I have a lot of really old computer
parts.
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318[02:11:46] <indomitable> Use them in the coming apocalypse
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319[02:12:06] <Lady_Aleena> I'm going to continue watching
Good Omens tonight. 8)
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320[02:12:37] <indomitable> it's really good Lady_Aleena
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321[02:12:40] <indomitable> enjoy .)
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322[02:12:58] <Lady_Aleena> So, the apocalypse will be on my TV,
close enough?
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323[02:13:04] <indomitable> No
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324[02:13:05] <indomitable> But the show is good.
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326[02:13:49] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, about the linux-image-amd64
package. it should upgrade to the latest kernel if this package is
installed. i think one of us accidentally uninstalled it earlier,
which is why it stuck in my head to suggest to you to install it.
and it's a good thing otherwise you'd still be on the old
kernel, which i heard today might be insecure (although there is at
least one other layer of security for this)
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327[02:14:27] <indomitable> Docker is the best way of avoiding
updates
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328[02:14:32] <indomitable> Isn't that why we all use it
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329[02:14:47] <Lady_Aleena> In about 17 minutes, I will want to
start the water boiling for the spaghetti.
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330[02:14:50] <ksk> sounds like a horrible advice.
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331[02:15:04] <indomitable> Lady_Aleena, solid plan
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332[02:15:09] <indomitable> ksk, what is horrible advice
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333[02:15:15] <Lady_Aleena> So, do I reboot now or after dinner
and a couple episodes of Good Omens?
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334[02:15:30] <indomitable> I would just not use docker until
they fix that horrible security bug
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335[02:15:37] <indomitable> also known as "a feature"
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336[02:15:58] <Lady_Aleena> I haven't heard of docker until
now.
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340[02:16:17] <indomitable> oh I'm in the wrong channel
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341[02:16:19] <indomitable> I apologize
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342[02:16:21] <indomitable> Ignore all the things
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344[02:19:58] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, if you reinstalled all the
packages you manually removed, then I'd reboot.
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347[02:21:00] <Lady_Aleena> ,v firefox
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348[02:21:01] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- sid: 67.0-4
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349[02:21:11] <magic_ninja> Hmm, so what would cause my wireless
interface to go up and down. dmesg -T confirms that just recently my
interface was toggled.
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350[02:21:15] <dvs> ,v firefox-esr
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351[02:21:16] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie:
52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 60.6.1esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-updates:
60.6.3esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 60.6.3esr-1; jessie-security:
60.7.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.7.0esr-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 60.7.0esr-1~deb9u1; sid: 60.7.0esr-1
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352[02:22:36] <magic_ninja> [Mon Jun 3 18:20:51 2019] userif-2:
sent link down event.
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353[02:22:36] <magic_ninja> [Mon Jun 3 18:20:51 2019] userif-2:
sent link up event.
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354[02:22:51] <magic_ninja> looks like it is switching in less
than a second
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355[02:23:03] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, I am rebooting. Hope for
laugher and clarity, prepare for tears and confusion.
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356[02:23:08] <magic_ninja> GL
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367[02:27:39] <magic_ninja> userif seems to be a vmware device,
but I'm not sure how to track down interface names to what
device they are on.
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370[02:27:42] <magic_ninja> if that makes sense
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373[02:28:17] <dvs> Well, that's a good sign.
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377[02:29:31] <Lady_Aleena> I got big error while rebooting. It
went by so fast, but it may have failed to load kernels.
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378[02:29:47] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: dmesg
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379[02:30:48] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, are you using this computer
now?
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382[02:32:40] <Lady_Aleena> I'm on my phone for irc.
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384[02:33:16] <Tom-_> okay so your computer can't be used
at the moment? what's on the screen?
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389[02:33:49] <Lady_Aleena> I got to a command prompt but
that's about it.
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390[02:34:13] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, does it say "login:"
?
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391[02:34:29] <indomitable> I wish I said login
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392[02:34:55] <Lady_Aleena> I was able to log in some at a
command prompt.
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393[02:35:17] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry my phone's keyboard is so
tiny I'm making spelling errors.
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394[02:35:42] <Lady_Aleena> I am at a command prompt and ran D
message.
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395[02:35:43] <Tom-_> are there any error messages visible on
the screen? if so please tell us them
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396[02:35:49] <dvs> So it's time to use the live CD you
created earlier?
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397[02:35:59] <Tom-_> dvs, what for? you lost me
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399[02:36:31] <dvs> Tom-_, It so depends on what that command
prompt says.
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403[02:40:11] <Lady_Aleena> me@office:~$
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405[02:40:57] <dvs> And you didn't get a "login:"
prompt before.
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406[02:41:26] <Tom-_> she said she logged in
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407[02:41:37] <Tom-_> i assume it said login: first
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408[02:41:39] <dvs> Oh, ok. So it's a problem with X.
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409[02:41:42] <Lady_Aleena> I did and logged in as
"me"
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410[02:41:48] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: type startx
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411[02:42:14] <dvs> Tom-_, it could have been a
"grub:" prompt which is way worse.
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413[02:42:48] <Tom-_> you can try typing in startx, but i would
like to know the errors. xorg should be installed if kde is
installed
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414[02:43:54] <Lady_Aleena> ltl, I just ran startx and the last
line is "xinit: server error"
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415[02:45:11] <dvs> I'm guessing the error can be found in
the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
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416[02:45:15] <Tom-_> maybe we should tell you to install
pastebinit
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417[02:45:19] <Tom-_> dpkg, pastebinit
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418[02:45:19] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a
<pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude
install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste
the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg 2>&1 |
pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>,
<nopaste>.
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419[02:45:26] <Lady_Aleena> If anyone has Twitter, I can post an
screen image there.
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420[02:45:28] <dvs> even better
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421[02:45:41] <Tom-_> dpkg, paste
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422[02:45:42] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
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423[02:45:53] <Tom-_> yes you can paste to file.io or imgur.com
or any other site you like, i don't mind
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424[02:47:56] <Tom-_> twitter might be better than imgur, imgur
basically keeps your pictures forever
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425[02:48:15] <Lady_Aleena> My latest tweet. @Lady_Aleena
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428[02:51:23] <Tom-_> appears to be missing drivers. i would
like to see your dmesg now. can you either run dmesg, and take and
post another picture, or install nopaste?
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429[02:52:46] <Lady_Aleena> dmesg is already several pages long.
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430[02:53:07] <Lady_Aleena> Want me grep something first?
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433[02:53:11] <Tom-_> do you want to take a picture of any parts
that appear to be errors?
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434[02:53:36] <Tom-_> anything to do with nvidia or nouveau
would be helpful, or anything that clearly seems to be an error or
warning
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437[02:54:59] <Lady_Aleena> How does nopaste work?
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439[02:55:58] <Tom-_> it's supposed to just let you put any
text into several paste websites
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440[02:56:02] <Tom-_> dpkg, nopaste?
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441[02:56:02] <dpkg> nopaste is a command-line tool to send data
to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do
"aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste
/etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do
e.g. "dmesg | nopaste".
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443[02:56:20] <Tom-_> we will find out if your internet works
after you try the aptitude or apt-get command though
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444[02:56:27] <dvs> I thought pastebinit did the same thing.
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447[02:56:59] <Tom-_> yeah, pastebinit requires extra config to
get to paste.debian.net instead of pastebin , so i thought i'd
recommend nopaste if that worked well
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448[02:57:13] <dvs> ok
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449[02:57:38] <LtL> um, i don't think so Tom-_
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450[02:57:47] <Tom-_> what part?
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451[02:57:57] <Lady_Aleena> nopaste didn't work.
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452[02:58:07] <Tom-_> what error?
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453[02:58:18] <Tom-_> be patient, we're working out the
bugs... yes i know there should have been none
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454[02:58:19] <LtL> paste.debian.net is pastebinit default
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455[02:58:26] <Tom-_> LtL, okay
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456[02:58:32] <LtL> iirc
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458[02:58:52] <Tom-_> $ echo hello world 3 | pastebinit
replaced-url
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459[02:59:07] <Lady_Aleena> tweeted
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461[03:00:07] <Tom-_> try sudo dmesg | pastebinit -b
paste.debian.net
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462[03:00:23] <Lady_Aleena> And the noodles are cooked. Dinner
is done. I'm off for a couple of hours. Thanks for trying to
help.
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465[03:00:45] <Tom-_> okay i have to go too, ping me when you
get back
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469[03:03:50] <Lady_Aleena>
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471[03:04:52] <LtL> i have
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472[03:04:56] <indomitable> Lady_Aleena, you're meant to be
watcihng SG1
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473[03:05:01] <indomitable> why are you still here
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474[03:05:02] <indomitable> SG1 it
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476[03:06:17] <LtL> [ 10.764414] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics
adapter found!
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478[03:07:18] <jmcnaught> NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU
installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx
Legacy drivers… …The 390.116 NVIDIA driver will ignore
this GPU.
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480[03:07:23] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, [ 9.694725] NVRM: No NVIDIA
graphics adapter found!
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482[03:07:54] <LtL> I don't know nvidia config, but i think
she needs it or X -configure
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483[03:08:11] <dvs> I don't know about nvidia either.
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484[03:08:28] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, okay so wrong nvidia driver.
this appears to be the only problem so far
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485[03:08:33] <jmcnaught> ,v nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver
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486[03:08:34] <judd> Package: nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver on
amd64 -- stretch/non-free: 340.106-2~deb9u1;
stretch-backports/non-free: 340.107-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free:
340.107-4; sid/non-free: 340.107-4
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490[03:09:55] <Tom-_> nvidia-detect was supposed to do it, but
she didn't say exactly what she did, so maybe it wasn't
the right thing, but i'll tell her to install that package,
jmcnaught
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491[03:09:58] <Tom-_> or you can
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492[03:10:48] <ksk> I am positive we will take part in her
transition to a new debian release for another two weeks or so ;)
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493[03:11:12] <LtL> apt install
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx maybe?
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495[03:11:33] <ksk> but yeah, did not see any bougous messages
in dmesg, apart from nvidia, either.
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496[03:12:10] <Tom-_> i agree with her, Debian's supposed
to handle all these things (well, there's a caveat for
backports, but i still think that's on debian's side)
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497[03:12:11] <Lady_Aleena> I'm now as afk, going to wat
dinner, nvidia-detect told me to install a driver, so I did.
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498[03:12:25] <Tom-_> yeah, i may have given the wrong
instructions
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499[03:12:29] <Lady_Aleena> s/wat/eat/;
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501[03:12:41] <LtL> 3 choices, nvidia blob, nvidia legacy driver
or nvidia nouveau driver
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503[03:13:09] <ksk> granted, "getting the right video
driver" in linux is a topic on its own I suppose..
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505[03:13:35] <annadane> fire nvidia into the sun, for starters
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506[03:13:42] <annadane> then civilization can progress
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508[03:14:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: so your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
should be populated if nvidia-detect worked
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509[03:14:20] <LtL> maybe!
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511[03:15:07] <annadane> i'm a bit groggy and not really
able to follow the conversation but
replaced-url
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512[03:15:23] <LtL> Tom-_: no, you did good bro
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513[03:15:36] <Tom-_> yeah mostly, but thank you
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514[03:15:41] <LtL> nvidia $hit is all it needs
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515[03:16:47] <LtL> im still wondering when i changed pastebinit
to paste.debian.net
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516[03:16:58] <LtL> don't recall.
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517[03:17:01] <ksk> its the default.
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518[03:17:15] <ksk> (or, are you the maintainer? :D)
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519[03:17:19] <LtL> ksk: i thought so
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520[03:18:21] <LtL> ksk: hah, negative on the maintainer
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522[03:19:25] <LtL> Lady_Aleena's box was a fright, i think
she'll have it kickin in no time
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523[03:19:57] <LtL> hrm, thqat didn't quite sound right
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524[03:20:12] <Tom-_> $ echo hello world 5 | pastebinit
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525[03:20:27] <ksk> !doesnotwork
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526[03:20:28] <Tom-_> it's not giving me a full URL back,
but paste.debian.net is indeed the default
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527[03:20:59] <ksk> why would you put
"paste.debian.org" after a pastebinit command..
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528[03:21:25] <Tom-_> it's just a bad paste. it really
looks like this: tomg@anguish:~$ echo hello world 5 | pastebinit
newline
replaced-url
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530[03:21:36] <ksk> hups. Tom-_ are you on sid by any chance?
its broken here on my box, too..
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531[03:21:38] <LtL> Tom-_: just pipe to pastebinit
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532[03:21:41] <Tom-_> where paste.debian.net is the output
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533[03:21:47] <Tom-_> LtL, very funny :)
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534[03:21:53] <Tom-_> ksk, this is Debian 9 on a cloud (VPS)
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535[03:22:38] <ksk> k, copy that for debian9. maybe the
paste.debian.net service did change? :X
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536[03:23:39] <ksk>
replaced-url
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537[03:23:40] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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538[03:23:40] <LtL> Tom-_: if i repeat your cmd i get a blank
url too.
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539[03:23:47] <ksk> "paste.debian.net currently blocks
submissions with less than "3 or two line breaks"."
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540[03:23:56] <ksk> try adding some more linebreaks :X
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541[03:24:26] <ksk> "<b>Thanks to some spammers you
need to provide at least 3 or two linebreaks</b><br>
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542[03:24:29] <ksk> "
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543[03:25:01] <ksk> bug from 2012 btw :D
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545[03:25:10] <ksk> (one could argue: no a bug.)
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548[03:27:01] <Tom-_> ah... i used up your time for no good
reason
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597[04:33:26] <jim> why would jackd2 depend on libreadline?
makes zero sense
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603[04:36:31] <Tom-_> in the source code
./example-clients/transport.c:#ifdef HAVE_READLINE
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604[04:36:47] <Tom-_> only the examples and the python scripts
use readline though, so you could be right
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607[04:38:40] <somiaj> that is probably a question for the
developers.
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608[04:38:55] <somiaj> My guess is there are features which use
libreadline.
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614[04:40:39] <somiaj> Could be an old dependecy that just
hasn't been fully flushed out by the devs as well.
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617[04:41:51] <Tom-_> it's definitely in the examples
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621[04:46:44] <jim> I can hardly get on the debian-dev channel
to ask them :)
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622[04:47:35] <jim> but... not yourfault :)
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624[04:47:53] <somiaj> I mean ask the jackd2 developers, they
wrote the code that needs that libary.
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625[04:48:38] <jim> let me ask you this... is it a direct (that
is, in the jackd2 package metadata) dependency?
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627[04:49:14] <Tom-_> yes, but it's only for an example
transport file, and it looks like it can be compiled without it
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628[04:49:19] <jim> we4ll let's see
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629[04:49:25] <Tom-_> i think if you take libreadline-dev out of
debian/control it might compile fine
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630[04:49:36] <jim> ,depends jackd2
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631[04:49:37] <judd> Package jackd2 in stretch/amd64 -- depends:
libasound2 (>= 1.0.18), libc6 (>= 2.17), libdbus-1-3 (>=
1.9.14), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0),
libjack-jackd2-0 (= 1.9.10+20150825git1ed50c92~dfsg-5), libopus0
(>= 1.1), libreadline7 (>= 6.0), libsamplerate0 (>= 0.1.7),
libsndfile1 (>= 1.0.20), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2), debconf (>=
0.5) | debconf-2.0, python:any, coreutils (>= 4.0), python-dbus.
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632[04:50:28] <jim> so that would confirm it is a direct
dependency...
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633[04:51:12] <Tom-_> am i being ignored?
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635[04:52:23] <jim> Tom-_, you mean as a build depend?
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636[04:52:45] <Schwarzbaer_> apt-get dist upgrade just finished
with this rather dangerous looking bit:
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637[04:53:09] <Tom-_> okay i guess i'm not being ignored.
jim, i don't understand your question. i think readline is not
a build depend if i understand that correctly, for jackd2
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638[04:53:55] <somiaj> Schwarzbaer_: doesn't seem that bad.
I would check dmesg, mabe "dmesg | grep firmware", (though
after you boot into the new kernel). If firmware is missing you can
install it from non-free
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639[04:54:11] <jmcnaught> Schwarzbaer_: those files are in the
firmware-misc-nonfree package in non-free
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640[04:54:59] <jim> Tom-_, my question centers around the fact
that jack is something that lives in the background, and as far as I
know doesn't have any kind of a "shell"
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641[04:55:11] <jim> especially not an interactive one
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642[04:55:24] <Tom-_> well the transport.c example file appears
to be interactive
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644[04:55:45] <Tom-_> if this transport.c file is not included
in Debian then maybe the dependency on libreadline should be removed
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645[04:56:40] <jim> so the readline call could be replaced by
something lower level, if it's being used to read some kind of
config file
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646[04:56:43] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks. This also looked rather
gnarly:
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648[04:57:57] <somiaj> Schwarzbaer_: maybe run apt -f install
and see what it does. Looks like maybe you had some packag eon your
system or source during the dist-upgrade that caused apt to remove
that package.
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649[04:58:57] <somiaj> jim: this still seems like a discussion
for the jackd developers. Debian most often uses the depends that
the ./configure script suggests even if they are optional (though
not sure in this case)
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651[04:59:30] <Tom-_> yeah that does look gnarly, Schwarzbaer_,
i'd do what somiaj suggested
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654[04:59:51] <jmcnaught> jim: Tom-_: I just downloaded the
jackd2 package and it's got a binary and man page for
jack_transport which "provides command-line
control…"
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655[04:59:52] <somiaj> and as Tom-_ has investigated, if this is
just some dependency that is just there due to ./configure and
isn't really needed in debian, you could file a wishlist bug to
have it removed.
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657[05:01:32] <somiaj> jmcnaught: oh nice find.
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659[05:02:18] <Tom-_> yes nice
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663[05:04:20] <Schwarzbaer_> It gives me the "The following
packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:" list and does nothing else. On the upside, the first
of those packages is installed and working.
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665[05:05:14] <Tom-_> Schwarzbaer_, i don't really see
what's in common with those packages, so i'm not guessing
which package may have been wrongly removed
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666[05:07:58] <somiaj> Schwarzbaer_: you may want to run apt
autoremove. You could have also had some software removed during
this, which you may want need to install if you find something you
are use to having is missing. If you dont' see any problems, it
is safe to ignore that.
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667[05:08:09] <somiaj> you may also want to run aptitude search
~o to find obsolete packategs.
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668[05:08:37] <Schwarzbaer_> \o/ Thanks.
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672[05:11:35] <jim> jmcnaught: hmm. maybe a factoring of the
jackd2 package, factoring out the transport thing into (say)
jack-cli-transport would do it
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676[05:13:28] <jmcnaught> jim: do what? What's wrong with
having libreadline7 installed? It's depended on by lots of
other things too.
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682[05:20:20] <jim> jmcnaught: I just didn't think it made
sense with something that can be controlled by other means. I
didn't know at the time that this transport.c existed. since
all that's true, it could be factored out... I'm just
saying I don't think readline should be necessary for a daemon,
but there is a reason for it... so, it could stay as it is, or be
factored out
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nvidia have its own compositor? should i just turn off xfce's?
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725[05:54:09] <melpy> TwT
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734[06:09:16] <magic_ninja> hey somiaj, just to let you know, I
was asking around about a per-process network monitor. Nethogs does
the trick and there are lots of GUI's available for it.
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736[06:09:26] <magic_ninja> but nethogs itself is in the repo
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761[06:29:59] <Lady_Aleena> I left for a little while to eat
dinner. Does anyone have a really big buffer? My buffer was only 50
lines, and all advice is now scrolled. So does anyone have a record
of what advice I was given to fix my problem?
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763[06:30:30] <ksk> Lady_Aleena: install the right nvidia
drivers
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764[06:30:30] <han-solo> I think, this is logged somewhere,
can't recall exactly where
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765[06:30:40] <ksk> iirc your dmesg told you which one to use
alredy
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766[06:30:45] <ksk> han-solo: nah, its borken.
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767[06:30:58] <ksk> (the official logging..)
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768[06:31:02] <PaddyF> as far as i know (without knowing the
context) there is a tool called nvidia-detect that helps you to find
the right driver
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769[06:31:03] <han-solo> ksk: oh, it broke :/
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770[06:31:11] <Lady_Aleena> IRC on mobile is hard to use.
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771[06:32:09] <Lady_Aleena> Ksk, I did according to
nvidia-detect.
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772[06:32:30] <jelly> !irclog
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773[06:32:30] <dpkg> it has been said that irclog is #debian on
<freenode> is logged at
replaced-url
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774[06:32:59] <ksk> this is the broken one :P mr rikers is
not-reachable, I tried some weeks ago ;)
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775[06:33:20] <jim> Lady_Aleena, for one, "<annadane>
i'm a bit groggy and not really able to follow the conversation
but
replaced-url
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776[06:33:38] <han-solo> jim: only upto `feb` is there ?
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777[06:33:39] <jelly> hm, the listener bot is here.
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779[06:33:52] <Unit193> ksk: I have no problem going to the
site.
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780[06:34:22] <annadane> nvidia-detect will tell you what to
install but the actual debian wiki recommends headers and sed and
all that stuff; how that applies with a half broken system though,
IHNFC
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781[06:34:34] <ksk> Unit193: good for you. do you see up-to-date
logs though?
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782[06:34:36] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: You had this message in
your logs: NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU installed in this system
is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx Legacy drivers…
…The 390.116 NVIDIA driver will ignore this GPU.
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783[06:35:17] <annadane> i don't even remmeber if, say, apt
install nvidia-driver works properly on new systems if you
absolutely need the syntax, but anyway, off topic
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784[06:35:18] <Unit193> ksk: Seems the latest one listed is
2019-05-30, wonder if any are unlisted.
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785[06:35:26] <han-solo> jelly: only upto `feb` is there ?
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786[06:35:32] <han-solo> sorry jim, bad tab
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788[06:35:47] <jelly> han-solo: it's broken alright
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789[06:36:06] <han-solo> Okay
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790[06:36:08] <Unit193> jelly: Scroll down and you get through
May as well.
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791[06:36:39] <jim> dad had a sad mad... tabacab?
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792[06:37:28] <annadane> when they do it, you're never
there, when they show it, you stop and stare; abacab, he's in
anywhere...
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793[06:37:30] <jelly> Unit193: no you don't
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794[06:37:41] <jelly> Unit193: look at the file lengths
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796[06:38:38] <Unit193> jelly: Heh, well then. You get *one*
line of each..Nice.
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797[06:38:39] <han-solo> broken at `feb 14`. Interesting date :)
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800[06:41:22] <Lady_Aleena> My eyes are going wonky. Glasses off
for mobile, glasses on for everything else.
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801[06:42:28] <Lady_Aleena> Do any of you think you will need
the tweets I posted earlier?
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802[06:42:29] <PaddyF> wonky :)
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805[06:44:37] <jim> protect your eyesight any way you can
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806[06:44:52] <PaddyF> remember to drink water
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807[06:45:22] <han-solo> s/drink water/breath/
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808[06:45:38] <Lady_Aleena> I'll get back in front of my
computer in a few minutes. Right now I'm in my living room.
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809[06:45:39] <PaddyF> yes, breath in, breath out. find the
right rhythm :P
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810[06:46:24] <Lady_Aleena> Once at the computer, I will try to
fix the nvidia problem.
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811[06:46:40] <annadane> i recommend a sledgehammer
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812[06:46:59] <han-solo> nvidia sucks!
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813[06:47:07] * han-solo waiting for people with pitchforks....
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814[06:47:15] <PaddyF> :D
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815[06:47:35] <annadane> i promise you will have a workable
computer by the end of 2021
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816[06:48:00] <PaddyF> that is when stretch is old_old_oldstable
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817[06:48:19] <annadane> and then we can weed out the
stretch-backports dependency problems and the fun starts again
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819[06:48:34] <Lady_Aleena> Annadane, I would count on that.
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820[06:49:00] <Lady_Aleena> s/would/would not/;
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823[06:52:48] <Lady_Aleena> I am at my keyboard, again.
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824[06:53:33] <Lady_Aleena> Now, do I uninstall the current
driver?
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827[06:55:18] <Lady_Aleena> I get the same recommendation as
before, nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver.
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828[06:55:34] <jmcnaught> Is that the one that you installed
before?
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829[06:56:08] <Lady_Aleena> Yes
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830[06:56:42] <Lady_Aleena> The 3rd or 4th to last thing before
reboot.
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831[06:58:17] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: if you run
"apt-cache policy nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver" is
340.106-2~deb9u1 the version that is installed?
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837[07:00:47] <Lady_Aleena> That is what I have.
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841[07:02:27] <magic_ninja> What drivers have you installed /
messed with lately or ever?
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842[07:03:02] <Lady_Aleena> Just nvidia today when upgrading.
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843[07:03:19] <magic_ninja> ohh, so you are ending up in a
terminal?
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844[07:03:23] <magic_ninja> Your display manager isn't
loading?
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845[07:04:00] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: Okay, I think it could be
because you installed the nvidia driver before the
linux-headers-amd64 package was installed. You probably need to do
something to trigger DKMS to build the kernel nvidia kernel module.
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846[07:04:59] <magic_ninja> so the nvidia package uses dkms to
build the module?
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848[07:06:12] <Lady_Aleena> I'm also reading
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849[07:06:27] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: maybe "apt-get
--reinstall install nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-dkms" ? And
watch the screen to make sure there are no errors about DKMS.
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850[07:07:22] <Lady_Aleena> I will try that. The above page has
something about xorg on it and headers too.
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857[07:16:51] <Lady_Aleena> I did not see any errors.
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859[07:17:11] <Lady_Aleena> Reboot?
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861[07:18:05] <jmcnaught> sure
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863[07:19:15] <Lady_Aleena> It still says failed load kernel
modules on boot.
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864[07:20:37] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: "journalctl | nc
termbin.com 9999"
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887[07:24:32] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: You still have this
message in your logs: NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU installed in
this system is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx Legacy
drivers… …The 390.116 NVIDIA driver will ignore this
GPU." Do you have the nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel-dkms
packages installed?
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898[07:26:17] <Lady_Aleena> Yes, 390.116-1 for both.
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900[07:26:54] <jelly> if your card needs nvidia legacy driver,
best remove the nvidia current driver
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903[07:27:00] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: that explains that error
message then. You need to get rid of that version of the nvidia
driver.
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907[07:27:48] <Lady_Aleena> So apt-get purge both?
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909[07:28:31] <no_gravity> Good Morning
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910[07:28:36] <no_gravity> Deleting files is slower then I
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912[07:29:10] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: yes but there's
probably more nvidia current driver packages installed than just
those two.
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913[07:29:41] <Lady_Aleena> Any way to find them all?
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914[07:29:52] <no_gravity> I am deleting abou 30k files via
"find . -mtime +180 -exec rm {} \;" right now and it
deletes about 100 files per second.
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915[07:30:41] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: could you make a paste of
"aptitude search ~i~nnvidia"? those are tildes ~ not
dashes.
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916[07:31:57] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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917[07:32:13] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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918[07:32:22] <Lady_Aleena> Yes.
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919[07:33:51] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: I would try
"aptitude purge nvidia-kernel-dkms" and see if it wants to
remove a bunch of other nvidia-foo packages
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920[07:34:48] <Lady_Aleena> Is apt-get purge okay, I'm not
that familiar with aptitude.
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925[07:35:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: the reason I suggested
aptitude is because it will remove the dependencies at the same
time, instead of needing a second step with "apt-get
autoremove", because I don't know how many other packages
marked auto you have that might also get autoremoved
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927[07:36:16] <Lady_Aleena> Aptitude it is then.
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929[07:36:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you can make a paste with
the -s for simulate, it won't change anything : aptitude -s
purge nvidia-kernel-dkms
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930[07:37:32] <Lady_Aleena> Already started. And should I say
yes to everything?
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933[07:37:51] <annadane> if it's -s then it shouldn't
give you prompts
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934[07:38:31] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: I don't know if you
should say yes to everything but if it's just removing a bunch
of nvidia packages it should be fine
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935[07:38:39] <Lady_Aleena> Annadane, I started it before
mcnaught suggested -s.
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936[07:39:05] <jelly> no_gravity: that's calling a separate
rm process 100 times a second. Use GNU find's -delete instead
of -exec rm {} \; or at least use -exec rm {} +
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937[07:39:16] <Lady_Aleena> Jmcnaught, there is a lot more,
including installing things.
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938[07:39:40] <jelly> no_gravity:
replaced-url
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940[07:42:12] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: aptitude might be
removing other packages that were installed automatically but are no
longer needed, but I don't know why it would want to install
anything. What did it install?
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941[07:42:22] <jelly> no_gravity: an ext4 fs on a consumer hard
disk ought to be able to delete about a thousand files a second
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942[07:42:24] <Lady_Aleena> Ctrl-c out of it, and now waiting
for the -s to finish.
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945[07:43:30] <jelly> when did apt-get gain a purge command?
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948[07:43:51] <Lady_Aleena> I don't know.
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949[07:44:18] <Lady_Aleena> And still waiting.
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951[07:44:59] <magic_ninja> jelly, apt-get has had a purge
command for at least 10 years.
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952[07:44:59] <jelly> a long time ago apparently, apt in squeeze
has it
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957[07:46:06] <Lady_Aleena> I should have used tee so I knew
what was going on. Still no link yet.
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958[07:46:36] <no_gravity> jelly: Interesting. Well, now all
files are deleted.
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961[07:47:16] <no_gravity> jelly: What does + instead of \; do?
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962[07:47:28] <jelly> read the fine link.
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963[07:48:45] <Lady_Aleena> With apt get being interactive
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964[07:49:02] <Lady_Aleena> With aptitude being interactive
could it be waiting for input from me?
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966[07:50:32] <magic_ninja> you can use -y to default to yes on
all packages.
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967[07:50:34] <pingfloyd> jelly: it's had it for a few
releases
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968[07:50:57] <pingfloyd> I want to say maybe around Etch
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969[07:50:58] <no_gravity> jelly: Uh oh, I am scared of
parallelism. I prefer things to happen in order.
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970[07:51:39] <jelly> no_gravity: better avoid using CPUs with
multiple threads and cores, then!
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971[07:52:26] <no_gravity> jelly: The great thing about multiple
cores and running things sequentially is that I know my command will
only clog up one cpu. And the others can still do stuff.
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972[07:52:31] <Lady_Aleena> It's not doing anything.
I'll try -sy
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973[07:52:59] <no_gravity> jelly: Although even after readin the
fine link, I am not sure if + is doing something in parallel.
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974[07:53:13] <jelly> "happen in order" is almost
always a lie, you're just choosing the layer at which the
system lies to you
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976[07:54:11] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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977[07:55:06] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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978[07:55:34] <jelly> no_gravity: -exec {} + just passes
multiple args to the command
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979[07:55:49] <no_gravity> jelly: Yeah, I guessed so.
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980[07:56:01] <no_gravity> jelly: -delete is probably best.
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981[07:56:23] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: okay, that's not
what we want.
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982[07:56:26] <jelly> no_gravity: you don't have to guess!
Tell find to run echo rm {} ... and see what it outputs
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987[07:57:05] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you could try
"apt-get -s purge nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms"
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988[07:57:36] <Lady_Aleena> Do we want me to nuke my system, and
have me start from scratch?
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989[07:58:30] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: probably not necessary,
it's just messed up because nvidia-driver in jessie was 340.xx,
but nvidia-driver in stretch is 390.xx (which doesn't work for
your card) and the 340.xx driver got moved into a different package
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990[07:59:38] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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992[08:00:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: might as well purge those
dependencies at the same time: apt-get purge nvidia-driver-bin
nvidia-kernel-support nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms
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993[08:01:07] <Lady_Aleena> So just do it now?
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996[08:01:52] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry. Still on my phone.
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997[08:02:10] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: as long as it's just
those four packages it removes, or only nvidia ones. If it wants to
remove more use -s and make a paste.
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998[08:02:22] <Lady_Aleena> And it doesn't save the buffer.
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999[08:02:40] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: apt-get purge
nvidia-driver-bin nvidia-kernel-support nvidia-driver
nvidia-kernel-dkms
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1000[08:05:54] <Lady_Aleena> They are gone. Rebooting now.
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1002[08:07:26] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you might need to
reinstall the legacy 340.xx version of the driver again, I
don't know I don't have anything that uses DKMS
thankfully.
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1004[08:07:43] <Lady_Aleena> Something's different, no big
FAILED now, but not getting I to
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1005[08:08:02] <Lady_Aleena> getting into kde.
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1007[08:08:42] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: make another paste of
journalctl then
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1008[08:08:43] <Lady_Aleena> Is that a grub thing, I can't
remember.
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1010[08:10:14] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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1012[08:10:34] <han-solo> !source
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1013[08:10:35] <dpkg> As an overview: to work with Debian source
packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a
location with free space; download the source package with
<apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use
<dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details,
also ask me about <package recompile> <backport>
<nmg> <policy> <source package>
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1014[08:11:09] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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1017[08:12:15] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: well now it's
complaining that another module is loaded using the video card and
that's why the nvidia driver won't load.
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1019[08:13:34] <Lady_Aleena> Please, give me a minute. My eyes
are starting to hurt bad.
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1020[08:13:39] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: there's supposed to
be a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ that blacklists the nouveau driver,
that could be missing.
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1027[08:16:21] <Lady_Aleena> Pasted dir list
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1038[08:21:44] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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1041[08:22:22] <Lady_Aleena> 2 blacklist files
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1043[08:22:48] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: the file that blacklists
nouveau does not appeart to be there.
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1047[08:25:24] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: one thing you could try
for tonight is looking in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or files in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ that are nvidia related, and moving them to
/root or somewhere safe. If the kernel is loading nouveau, you could
probably use that at least for tonight
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1048[08:25:31] <jmcnaught> until you get the nvidia driver
situation figured out
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1049[08:26:30] <Lady_Aleena> I don't think there's much
more that I can do the night anyway. The constant shifting focus
from my phone to my computer screen is making me nauseated. I have
got one massive headache coming on.
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1052[08:26:56] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: sorry you've had
such a rough upgrade
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1053[08:27:22] <Lady_Aleena> Thank you very much I just wish I
had better hardware so I didn't have to use funky software.
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1055[08:28:22] <Lady_Aleena> If I could get into KDE or XFCE so I
could use hex chat my headache would probably go away.
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1058[08:30:41] <Lady_Aleena> I wanna shut down for the night.
Thank you everyone. Have a good one.
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1059[08:30:51] <PaddyF> o/
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1060[08:30:53] <jmcnaught> Good night
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1064[08:33:07] <annadane> saga 5 of 107
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1065[08:33:18] <annadane> good grief. buy AMD, people.
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1066[08:34:28] <PaddyF> 2,5 hours wasted on this ruby adventure
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1071[08:37:42] <PaddyF> i attemped to fix the version mismatch of
the kernel. now i have "dpkg -l" list
"linux-image-4.19.0-0.bpo.5-amd64-unsigned
4.19.37-3~bpo9+1" but uname -a says:
"4.19.0-0.bpo.5-amd64"
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1072[08:37:54] <PaddyF> thats close but still not a match
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1073[08:38:03] <Schwarzbaer_> Umm... After my dist-upgrade to
buster earlier, I suddenly have only a Dummy Output sound output,
according to Gnome. Any ideas how to approach debugging that?
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1075[08:38:23] <PaddyF> buster is testing --> irc.oftc.net
#debian-next
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1076[08:38:33] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks.
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1080[08:40:46] <PaddyF> hmmm, yes. i am tempted to try buster
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1082[08:41:30] <PaddyF> that backports stuff for wine did nothing
good
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1092[08:47:31] <han-solo> on a VM, that is :)
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1093[08:47:35] <annadane> not like it matters but it's
curious how "emacs" defaults to 24 in stretch (when 25 is
available) but 26 in buster
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1094[08:47:59] <annadane> and 25 is also available in buster
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1101[08:51:10] <Neobenedict> can iptables act as a router
supporting gigabit speeds
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1102[08:51:40] <PaddyF> my gosh, the list of rc bugs is long
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1103[08:52:00] <annadane> most are for stretch
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1104[08:52:10] <annadane> it's basically 80 unpatched bugs
right now for buster
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1105[08:52:11] <PaddyF> yep, i saw
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1108[08:53:25] <annadane> so get to work!
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1111[08:54:37] <PaddyF> :D
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1114[08:56:52] <annadane> i just put buster in my sources.list
for fun, commented out the stretch lines, tried an apt upgrade
and... yep... conflicting nvidia packages preventing update...
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1115[08:56:59] <annadane> sigh
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1118[08:58:13] <annadane> i'll likely need to use aptitude
when buster actually releases
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1154[09:19:42] <Barabacha> can I set an IP address to static
using nmcli?
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1162[09:24:07] <han-solo> Butt3rfly: `nmlci connection modify
<connection> ipv4.method manual` ?
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1166[09:25:06] <han-solo> then you'd set the `ipv4.address
<ip>`, i guess
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1172[09:26:04] <han-solo> Barabacha: ^
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1173[09:26:21] <han-solo> sorry, Butt3rfly (bad tab, argh)
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1175[09:26:40] <Butt3rfly> :) no problem, good morning
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1177[09:27:13] <han-solo> i'm messing people names too many
times this morning, i will go for walk, me thinks :) ...
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1187[09:34:40] <annadane> man 1 tabcompletion
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1188[09:34:57] <annadane> "description: stop being an idiot
and don't type before coffee"
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1189[09:35:20] <annadane> see also: break from computer(8)
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1208[09:48:18] <melpy> TwT
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1249[10:21:48] <hans_> iirc there is a debian-live channel, where
is it?
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1251[10:21:59] <Habbie> on oftc i bet
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1252[10:22:08] <Habbie> if it's not on freenode :)
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1253[10:23:35] <Unit193> There is indeed.
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1256[10:27:39] <hans_> yeah it's oftc, found it
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1258[10:27:48] <hans_> (`#debian-live` @ oftc)
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1260[10:28:10] <Barabacha> is mysql still available for Debian or
do I have to use mariaDB?
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1263[10:28:57] <hans_> Barabacha, in debian10 `apt install
mysql-server` gives you mysql
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1266[10:29:12] <hans_> not sure about debian 9
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1267[10:29:20] <Barabacha> didn't mysql license change or
something?
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1268[10:29:32] <hans_> idk
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1275[10:33:08] <Habbie> hans_, in 10, apt says mysql-server does
not exist
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1276[10:33:29] <Habbie>
replaced-url
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1278[10:34:01] <Habbie> in 9 it gives you maria
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1281[10:36:12] <hans_> Barabacha, if you run wget
replaced-url
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1288[10:40:20] <hans_> Barabacha, anyhow
replaced-url
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1292[10:41:04] <hans_> Habbie, ok nvm, my bad
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1304[10:44:46] <Gurdon> Hey there, I'd check a lot of
methods to change my dns server on debian, but that wasn't
successfull, What should I do?
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1341[11:05:42] <Barabacha> what's the difference between
mysql-server and mysql-community-server?
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1353[11:11:51] <Barabacha> when I try to apt-get install
mysql-community-server, the system asks me to insert the disc
"Media change: please insert the disc labeled
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1354[11:11:53] <Barabacha> 'Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_
- Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20160604-15:35'
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1355[11:11:54] <Barabacha> in the drive '/media/cdrom/'
and press enter" any idea why?
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1359[11:13:40] <Ticho_> you probably have the DVD media defined
as a package source for apt
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1457[12:18:36] <diffy> hi,have tails os related question ,but
since its based on debian...i have tails installed on 8GB
usb-drive,why does tails take more than 4gb although the iso is just
about 2gb?is there some way to make that tails-taken GBs available
to the persistent volume?
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1459[12:19:13] <PaddyF> diffy: bad ethics. "this sounds like
a car sale but i want to buy perfume"
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1460[12:19:34] <themill> diffy: I don't think there's
much of your question that's not tails-specific.
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1466[12:24:03] <enveezee> I am trying to run HDsentinel on a
machine, its a 32bit binary, I am on amd64, I just enabled multiarch
and updated, what do I need exactly? just libc6:i386 to run this?
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1514[12:55:31] <tw> if there's a 64-bit version available,
why bother?
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1516[12:56:35] <jelly> enveezee: yes.
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1517[12:56:36] <hans_> enveezee, you sure there isn't a
64bit build available?
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1519[12:57:47] <jelly> or no, sorry. I have a 32bit installation
but use a 64bit hdsentinel binary :-)
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1520[12:58:29] <jelly> it's likely the 32bit one also uses
just glibc but I can't confirm it.
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1565[13:33:26] <shibboleth> anyone know how to make autodetached
screen processes respawn the child proc if it dies? (typically
buffer underrun of video inout)?
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1576[13:42:08] <jelly> shibboleth: screen does not do that.
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1579[13:43:11] <jelly> if you need to run stuff as a service
don't run it in screen, make a systemd unit with Restart=yes,
or use a different process management tool
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1582[13:44:44] <shibboleth> yeah, i was actually looking into
using systemd. most likely had done so long ago if it wasn't
for my disdain for the baggage
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1584[13:45:42] <jelly> so go with daemontools or runit or monit
or whatever
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1589[13:46:51] <tw> How do I prevent everything from graying out
when it is unfocused?
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1592[13:48:20] <jelly> tw: that sounds like a highly wm or de
specific symptom, which DE?
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1593[13:48:33] <jelly> my KDE does not do that.
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1594[13:49:14] <tw> pavucontrol does it, so does lxterminal. I
presume it's gnome or at least GTK related. I do not have a
full gnome stack installed so I can't test with all the tools.
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1596[13:50:22] <tw> If it's WM related, it's i3, which
probably isn't doing anything interesting except setting focus.
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1597[13:50:31] <jelly> it's not pavucontrol that does it, I
use that as well
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1598[13:50:58] <tw> I should mention this is buster. <.<
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1599[13:51:08] <tw> And I may be in the wrong channel >.>
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1612[14:01:22] <willemb> was there just an interesting ntp
hickup? we use debian.pool.ntp.org and a couple of hundred servers
suddenly became 5 minutes behind
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1614[14:03:32] <tw> this is the focus fade I mean
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1615[14:03:57] <tw> it's like someone doesn't believe
in multitasking.
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1619[14:04:54] <jelly> that honestly sounds like something gnome
would impose
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1620[14:06:00] <jelly> willemb: nope, but pool.ntp.org dns
rotation is managed by pool.ntp.org people
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1623[14:06:51] <jelly> they have a mailing list or three so you
might ask there
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1626[14:11:29] <oiaohm> tw: the in active greying out that is
historic X11.
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1640[14:17:41] <tw> oiaohm: I don't think that's true.
I mean xedit from x11-apps doesn't, and it has plenty of legacy
controls in it.
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1644[14:19:09] <RoyK> oiaohm: yeah, we all miss twm
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1647[14:20:03] <DammitJim> what happened to him?
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1648[14:20:16] <tw> Anyway, I'm not really interested in the
legacy of focus-fading, I just want to fix the theme such that I can
read when the window isn't focused.
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1650[14:20:22] <oiaohm> tw: RoyK mentioned one of the old windows
managers to use to do it.
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1651[14:20:27] <EdePopede> tw: i'd also blame gnome. same
here btw with PA.
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1654[14:20:52] <oiaohm> Its not a new theming stunt its
maintaining a old one.
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1655[14:21:06] <oiaohm> That old one was when cpu cores were
likely to be 1.
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1656[14:21:20] <EdePopede> and no change for hexchat, only the
border around the active inputline disappears
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1657[14:21:29] <DammitJim> do you guys know what I need to change
on slim to display on the whole screen? For some reason it only
shows a 1920x1080 and the rest of my screen is black
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1660[14:22:34] <oiaohm> DammitJim: xrandr resolution change to
the right resolution for screen.
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1661[14:22:52] <DammitJim> it's a new 4K monitor
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1663[14:23:15] <DammitJim> actually, I don't know if slim is
actually displaying in 1920x1080... it just looks like it
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1665[14:23:52] <oiaohm> DammitJim: is that half the screen with
image.
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1666[14:24:01] <DammitJim> pretty much
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1668[14:24:16] <oiaohm> Ok that could be a horrible double
display in one.
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1675[14:26:14] <oiaohm> DammitJim: you will need to go into
monitor settings of some form.
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1677[14:26:40] <oiaohm> DammitJim: others when you do monitor
dectect monitors turn out to be 2 screens in one.
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1678[14:27:18] <EdePopede> what is the name of saving and
rereading settings from hd with the live system?
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1679[14:28:25] <DammitJim> hhmmmm
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1680[14:28:30] <DammitJim> this is the monitor on a laptop
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1681[14:28:46] <oiaohm> DammitJim: this does not mean it cannot
be a 2 in controller.
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1682[14:29:09] <oiaohm> DammitJim: basically you will need to get
into monitor settings and see what you have.
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1686[14:29:56] <oiaohm> DammitJim: and be thankful you got a
picture at all. There are some laptops the wrong screen resultion
all you get is black screen.
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1688[14:30:34] <oiaohm> DammitJim: of course that makes it a
total bugger to repair a broken windows on them.
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1716[14:47:59] <tw> Regarding control fading when application
loses focus, I changed my gtk3 theme to Adapta and it's no
longer a problem. I'll just leave it on adapta since I can read
the controls now.
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1725[14:51:08] <EdePopede> tw: that would mean that Adapta simply
has no different colors for elements on inactive windows i'd
say
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1733[14:53:30] <tw> EdePopede: I think so too. Probably no css
element change for that state, or hopefully a deliberate lack
thereof.
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1738[14:54:34] <tw> I'll consider the high contrast theme if
it means I never have to have the style-vs-function problem again.
=/
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1739[14:54:35] <EdePopede> it's a complete chaos anyway
here. xfce, gtk2, gtk3, horrible.
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1741[14:55:07] <han-solo> no kde ?
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1742[14:55:12] <EdePopede> maybe i should switch to opera, just
to also have Qt included
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1744[14:55:43] <EdePopede> kde? with the 2GB RAM on this tiny old
PC? noes :)
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1751[14:57:10] <han-solo> on the matter of memory. I didn't
give enough storage for a VM with debian, and i did `dist-upgrade`
on the last step, it just died :)
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1752[14:57:31] <han-solo> Now, i need to extend the volume, and i
feel like it;s too much work, so i just nuked it :)
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1753[14:57:35] <han-solo> start over...
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1756[14:59:12] <EdePopede> i wish software was more careful about
ressources in general. fill up the fs with $HOME and start
something. first thing it will do is to open rw its config and cache
and destroy it.
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1757[14:59:21] <tw> han-solo: I know that feeling; du -sh /usr
-> 24G
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1758[14:59:44] <han-solo> tw: anyway, it's a VM, and i was
just playing, no hard feelings :)
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1813[15:29:26] <EdePopede> the live stretch factoid needs an
update. it points to the weekly testing builds and the other host is
gone.
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1814[15:29:54] <greycat> dpkg literal live stretch
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1815[15:29:54] <dpkg> "live stretch" is
"<reply> see live testing"
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1816[15:30:02] <greycat> so, uh, yeah...
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1823[15:30:58] <greycat> !live jessie
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1824[15:30:58] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built
Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can
be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from
replaced-url
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1825[15:31:19] <EdePopede> was looking for some docs on
persistent live btw...
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1830[15:33:06] <EdePopede> `live` also points to that host.
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1832[15:33:22] <EdePopede> oh, seems to bee the same, nvm
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1833[15:33:25] <greycat> so what should <live stretch>
actually say?
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1836[15:35:43] <EdePopede> hm. it is live and it is stable. the
thing to go without touching the rest of the system. the tool to fix
things. on your PC and on others.
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1837[15:36:11] <EdePopede> and it follows the normal upgrade
process i guess
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1839[15:36:35] <EdePopede> and it has all 6 DEs available.
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1848[15:39:36] <EdePopede> `debian live oldstable` also uses it
and thus wheezy and maybe also some others for outdated versions
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1862[15:52:13] <JyZyXEL> will live buster release together with
buster?
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1864[15:53:25] <greycat> JyZyXEL: consider asking #debian-next on
the OFTC network
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1865[15:53:36] <greycat> err, I meant #debian-live on the OFTC
network
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1873[16:03:00] <jelly> JyZyXEL: yes, but usually installer images
are ready before live images
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1875[16:03:37] <jelly> JyZyXEL: there already exist weekly builds
for live buster images.
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1878[16:04:48] <JyZyXEL> ohh /weekly-live-builds/, i wasn't
aware of that
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1888[16:11:36] <enveezee> jelly: I'd only seen one build for
linux *shrug* I'd gotten it to work though. I just know
I'd installed and ran smartctl and it said my drives were
nearly dead
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1889[16:11:58] <enveezee> idk why we can't seem to get this
fixed.. I don't have a clear understanding of the issue
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1890[16:12:23] <enveezee> I'm guessing its the typical
non-conformity of manufacturers
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1893[16:14:15] <enveezee> but what I do know is, I bought two
white label 3TB drives that turned out to be HGST drives, they have
about 3mo uptime on them, and hdsentinel says they're in
perfect condition with no errors and smartctl says they're
ancient and failing
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1894[16:15:12] <enveezee> I'd dare say we should stop even
shipping smartmontools cause they're useless
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1897[16:16:48] <tds> enveezee: what does smartctl say exactly?
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1898[16:17:39] <tds> some drive manufacturers do weird things
with putting multiple pieces of information into one smart
attribute, which can lead to odd-looking values
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1905[16:20:56] <jelly> enveezee: wut? There are like 4 different
binary downloads next to each other
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1906[16:21:17] <jelly> !hdsentinel
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1907[16:21:17] <dpkg> A gratis but closed source <SMART>
client with slightly more user-friendly output than <smartctl>
and ability to read more USB devices than smartctl. Binaries for x86
and ARM at
replaced-url
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1912[16:22:08] <jelly> 32 and 64 bit x86 are literally one line
after the other
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1934[16:32:43] <PaddyF> i would like to setup my system so that i
can create a snapshot that i can use to test some things without
harming my main system
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1936[16:32:54] <PaddyF> what can i use for that?
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1937[16:33:19] <slax0r> virtualization?
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1939[16:33:44] <PaddyF> the virtualized system is not the same
then
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1942[16:34:30] <PaddyF> what i am looking for is:
replaced-url
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1948[16:36:22] <enveezee> jelly: yeah I didnt go to that page, I
went to the main download page and there is only one
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1949[16:36:53] <enveezee> tds: exactly? you want to see the
output?
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1950[16:37:11] <tds> sure, paste.debian.net
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1956[16:39:13] <enveezee> tds:
replaced-url
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1958[16:39:27] <enveezee> tds: as you can see it says pre-fail or
oldage on everything
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1959[16:39:51] <tds> that's just describing what type that
attribute is, it's the values you need to care about
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1961[16:40:24] <avu> PaddyF: LVM snapshots may work for this
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1963[16:40:34] <tds> eg if a decide was failing you might see
reallocated sectors, so that's pre-fail, your drives look fine
for that though
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1964[16:40:40] <PaddyF> avu: like in the article?
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1965[16:40:44] <tds> s/decide/drive/
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1966[16:40:52] <Greyztar> hello,if i put hwaddress ether mac in
my interfaces file am able to change mac,but i need it to change
before interface comes up so i thought maybe to put something in the
pre.up folder,what should i do?
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1967[16:40:59] <avu> PaddyF: didn't read that article, read
your question
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1970[16:41:12] <PaddyF> i thought i double check before i try
something that is 11 years old
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1971[16:41:19] <greycat> Greyztar: why are you trying to change
your MAC address?
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1972[16:41:29] <XsiSec> Hi folks I have moved some textfiles
between users though I noticed '-rw-r--r--' though once I
change the priveleges to 777 the files are empty am I doing
something wrong?
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1973[16:42:18] <XsiSec> also they have Chown -R myuser:myuser
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1974[16:42:21] <Greyztar> greycat, it just began out of curiosity
so i researched it and found a way,its mostly for experimenting ill
admit
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1979[16:45:04] <greycat> XsiSec: choose *one* file. Tell us what
you wanted to do with this file. Tell us what you actually did. Tell
us what its state is now, e.g. "ls -ld thisfile". Tell us
what you would like to be different.
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1981[16:45:42] <XsiSec> greycat, I just want to read the content
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1982[16:46:14] <XsiSec> '-rwxr-xr-x 1 xsisec xsisec 0 May 6
19:56 commands.txt'
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1983[16:46:23] <greycat> it's an empty file
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1985[16:46:36] <math_> Yo
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1986[16:46:51] <XsiSec> no shit sherlock thats what I seen all
the time so I wonder if the files might got broken something.
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1987[16:46:51] <EdePopede> *sigh* they link
replaced-url
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1988[16:47:05] <XsiSec> or something*
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1993[16:50:21] <greycat> 10:49 Topic for #debian-live: 9.9.0 live
images published:
replaced-url
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1994[16:50:36] <greycat> does one of the deb.li things redirect
to alioth?
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2000[16:53:34] <themill> EdePopede: few people pay attention to
/topic and even fewer the chanserv url.
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2006[16:55:15] <OerHeks> greycat, not here..
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2007[16:55:47] <greycat> I'm trying to figure out what
EdePopede is talking about.
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2008[16:55:58] <themill> greycat: the chanserv URL
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2009[16:56:07] <EdePopede> was about to join the live channel
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2010[16:56:21] <themill> nothing is stopping you
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2011[16:56:29] <EdePopede> on a new network which is terra
incognita to me
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2012[16:56:37] <EdePopede> dragons and such!
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2014[17:00:21] <jhutchins_wk> EdePopede: Check out the oftc web
page for how to register. There's an aditional step that
freenode doesn't have.
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2016[17:00:50] <EdePopede> seems i did this already some years
ago :>
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2049[17:24:40] <Neobenedict> how do I expand my zfs pool with 2
more identical drives to make a raid-10 like setup
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2064[17:26:48] <dpkg> ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a
file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems
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2080[17:34:54] <mason> Neobenedict: made a mirror vdev out of
them and then add them to your pool.
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2083[17:37:11] <Neobenedict> i got it thanks
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2101[17:57:40] <bora> hello everyone
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2103[17:57:53] <bora> hopse you will be fine
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2104[17:57:53] <melpy> Hi bora
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2105[17:58:09] <melpy> I hope you will be fine :)
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2106[17:58:35] <bora> which language for create tools for debian
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2107[17:58:38] <bora> ?
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2111[18:01:06] <melpy> don't quite understand your question,
but the most widely used programming language for debian packages is
C
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2113[18:02:04] <jelly> bora: software in debian is written in a
dozen different programming languages, c, c++, c#, python, ruby,
perl, rust, go, java, scheme, haskell...
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2118[18:04:45] <bora> ok then I understood friends I can use all
language
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2125[18:07:31] <enveezee> bora: bash, perl, and python are three
scripting languages that are in any base system
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2128[18:10:17] <kidnextdoor> hi guys
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2130[18:10:35] <kidnextdoor> how do i show size of packages while
searching with apt?
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2132[18:11:05] <greycat> I doubt apt can do that. aptitude,
maybe.
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2133[18:11:26] <ksk> what does the "size" field of
"apt-cache show $pkg" tell?
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2136[18:11:59] <tharkun> Good $DAY I am looking for a CLI
Calendar program that I can easily synchronize with my iPhone.
I've read the pal documentation but I could not find a path to
achieve it. Any suggestions?
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2137[18:12:17] <greycat> wooledg:~$ apt-cache show bash | grep -i
size
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2139[18:12:17] <greycat> Installed-Size: 6439
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2140[18:12:17] <greycat> Size: 1377592
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2141[18:12:38] <greycat> Installed-Size is in kilobytes, and Size
is in bytes, I believe. Because reasons.
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2159[18:16:28] <greycat> remove the leading whitespace
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2160[18:16:39] <petn-randall> trouble1: try without a leading
space
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2205[18:49:19] <enveezee> not real pretty and its a lil slow, but
it does it :D
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2215[18:53:04] <enveezee> there is a python module for apt that
could prob do it a bit more elegantly, but I think as far as bash
goes and what the apt utils allow, thats about as good as it gets
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2222[18:57:19] <enveezee> either my bash-fu is getting better or
I'm totally oblivious :P
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2238[19:07:35] <PaddyF> tough stuff. you cant open a luks
container with a deb9 system when it was created with a deb10 system
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2240[19:08:00] <enveezee> ,v cryptsetup
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2241[19:08:01] <judd> Package: cryptsetup on amd64 -- jessie:
2:1.6.6-5; stretch: 2:1.7.3-4; buster: 2:2.1.0-4; sid: 2:2.1.0-4;
experimental: 2:2.2.0~rc0-1
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2242[19:08:45] <enveezee> let this be a lesson to ya.. create
filesystems in the oldest system you want to use them in
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2246[19:09:56] <enveezee> I stress often to people who use NTFS
on linux, recreate the filesystem on linux before doing a lot of
writing to it.. just because things come preformatted doesn't
mean its ready to use.. those newer NTFS will get horribly corrupted
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2249[19:12:12] <PaddyF> i think i "dd" the entire drive
then. seeing no alternative
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2252[19:12:55] <enveezee> what is it you're trying to
accomplish?
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2254[19:13:48] <enveezee> because it wouldnt be that much trouble
to install debootstrap and use it to install buster into a dir and
run a v2 cryptsetup
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2256[19:13:58] <PaddyF> i wanted to experiment with lvm snapshots
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2257[19:14:14] <PaddyF> enveezee: cool idea
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2259[19:14:46] <enveezee> never tried it but I dont see why a
chroot wouldnt work in this case
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2260[19:15:20] <PaddyF> i need /proc, /dev and /sys in that
chroot, right?
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2261[19:15:47] <enveezee> its a fairly standard thing to do..
you'd at the very least need /dev and probably /proc
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2262[19:16:24] <enveezee> you could also use a vm, but I
can't offhand think of a reason a chroot wouldnt work
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2263[19:16:45] <enveezee> and its simpler to setup a chroot
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2268[19:18:10] <HelloBeer> Hey people. I have a question. I am
trying to make an upgrade of my BIOS on my computer, running with
debian 9. I have read that i will need fwupdmgr, which I installed.
I downloaded on the manufacturer's website a .iso and a .cab. I
searched the next step to do (how to use the program) on the
internet but did not found, and I don't want to break my
system. Do any of you knows how to install the new bios version ?
Thanks !
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2275[19:20:13] <PaddyF> HelloBeer: just curious - whats in those
iso and cab containers?
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2282[19:22:37] <enveezee> HelloBeer: do you have a link for these
files?
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2286[19:23:42] <HelloBeer> PaddyF, it is said on the website that
it is a new bios version.Do that answer your question or do you want
to know exactly what's inside the file ?
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2288[19:24:09] <HelloBeer> No because it's a private
website, but i can upload them (if it's not illegal ?)
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2290[19:24:27] <enveezee> a private website?
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2291[19:24:47] <HelloBeer> Yeah, uuh, a website with an
authentification needed to acces the download page
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2292[19:24:49] <enveezee> why are you even considering upgrading
this bios?
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2293[19:25:03] <enveezee> what website is it?
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2296[19:25:44] <HelloBeer> I'm considering upgrading the
bios because of a bug known with this bios verison causing a high
pitch noise and that could be solved by upgrading the bios
(it's a thinkpad T580 and the webiste is lenovo's)
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2300[19:26:32] <HelloBeer> If I double click on the .cas file, I
have the debian software 0installer
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2301[19:26:46] <HelloBeer> opening, is it a good idea to use it ?
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2313[19:30:30] <enveezee>
replaced-url
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2318[19:32:02] <PaddyF> too bad. the "luksOpen" works
but the install of lvm2 freezes (2 attempts)
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2319[19:32:41] <dvs> Good. My model is not affected.
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2321[19:32:56] <Habbie> a model does not need to be listed to be
affected
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2322[19:33:23] <enveezee> PaddyF: if the chroot is bound to /dev/
and such, then the cryptsetup has opened and exposed the decrypted
disk through the /dev/mapper/ interface and you no longer need the
chroot, you can now access /dev/mapper/ outside of it
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2323[19:33:29] <dvs> ok, I must be def then. ;-P
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2327[19:33:37] <HelloBeer> I don't see my model either but
here is the noise.
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2328[19:33:41] <Habbie> dvs, i did not say it -is- affected :)
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2329[19:34:11] <HelloBeer> Thanks enveezee. I'm gonna read
the "update bios" page and come back if I don't
understand something.
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2333[19:34:32] <enveezee> maybe HelloBeer is deaf, which is why
they hear a rining sound.. its called tinnitus
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2339[19:35:43] <PaddyF> its real, haha. muchos gracias
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2340[19:35:48] <enveezee> personally I'd try far more
ridiculous stuff before flashing the bios for a "maybe"
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2342[19:36:13] <enveezee> I'd try spreading coffee grounds
around the laptop and cracking an egg over it
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2344[19:36:27] <HelloBeer> Nah, I can hear it stronger when i put
my head closer.
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2345[19:36:34] <HelloBeer> Upgrading the bios is that dangerous ?
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2346[19:36:50] <PaddyF> yup
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2348[19:37:12] <enveezee> flashing random crap for no good reason
to the chip that contains the software that drives the entire
system? noooo...
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2349[19:37:35] <HelloBeer> Not random crap, the official
recommanded update
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2350[19:37:47] <PaddyF> i would only flash my bios if there is a
real good reason _and_ the cmos battery needs to be unpluggable
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2352[19:38:09] <enveezee> yes I would only flash the bios if I
was sure the bios was faulty
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2354[19:38:29] <enveezee> after I tried everything else, like
expelling daemons
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2355[19:38:33] <cusco> the noise seems a a good reason..
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2356[19:38:34] <enveezee> demons even
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2359[19:38:49] <HelloBeer> and I asked the technical service what
to do and they advised me to do that
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2360[19:38:49] * dvs should get out of the habit of flashing EFIs
frequently
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2361[19:38:53] <enveezee> noise isn't an excuse..
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2362[19:39:13] <cusco> well.. noise is a big underrated problem
in our world..
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2363[19:39:22] <enveezee> lots of people have noise in their
cars.. and breaks often cause noise.. doesnt mean you should change
your breaks any time you hear noise
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2364[19:39:24] <HelloBeer> Yep, can't stand it
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2365[19:39:35] <enveezee> it could be your wheel bearing, or a
hundred other things
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2368[19:40:42] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. My system still will not boot
into a DE. It still stops at the plain command prompt.
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2369[19:40:53] <cusco> HelloBeer: probably the iso they provided,
is something you can burn on a cd, and boot from with a tool to
upgrade the bios.. if something you don't understand other way,
that seems to be safer...
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2370[19:40:54] <PaddyF> enveezee: do you come here more often?
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2371[19:41:09] <enveezee> PaddyF: more often than what?
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2372[19:41:41] <PaddyF> enveezee: just wondering if you are a
regular around here. you seem to know your stuff
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2373[19:41:56] <humpled> breaks or brakes?
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2375[19:42:15] <dvs> PaddyF, yeah, he RANTs a lot!
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2376[19:42:21] <enveezee> :D
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2378[19:42:27] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: how and what video driver did
you install?
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2379[19:42:27] <PaddyF> oh! you are RENTY??
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2380[19:42:40] <PaddyF> haha, cool
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2381[19:42:50] <PaddyF> ranty, ranty
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2382[19:42:53] <dvs> LtL, Nvidia
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2383[19:43:00] <dvs> which I have no knowledge of
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2384[19:43:01] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, the nvidia one.
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2385[19:43:45] <ksk> Lady_Aleena: like you would not know by
know, that there is more then one "nvidia driver"..
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2386[19:44:02] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: probably the worst choice of
three possible choices, what does dmesg say now? pastebinit
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2387[19:44:27] <Lady_Aleena> Nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver I think.
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2388[19:44:28] <ksk> why not give the information you gave
yesterday? does not really make sense to have all the people ask you
the same questions every day..
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2389[19:44:50] <enveezee> lspci -nn, dmesg, lsmod, dpkg -l
*nvidia*, xorg.0.log, etc..
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2392[19:45:05] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, What does this say:
replaced-url
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2393[19:45:36] <Tom-_> oh hi Lady_Aleena
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2394[19:45:40] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: apt show
Nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver - is your card listed?
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2396[19:46:43] <LtL> wait that probably not the correct name, 1
sec
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2398[19:47:03] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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2400[19:47:45] <dvs> NVIDIA GT218
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2401[19:47:51] <HelloBeer> @enveezee Hey. I don't understand
something. On the page you sent me, they do complicated things with
their .cab file. On my machine, I can open it with Software
installer and it proposes me immediatly to install it. Why
sould'nt I do that ?
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2402[19:47:54] <dvs> dunno what that means but...
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2403[19:48:31] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, i think we agreed last night
that you have to remove the newer nvidia drivers, and then the older
nvidia drivers should just work
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2404[19:48:48] <Tom-_> i am unsure which packages to remove,
actually
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2405[19:49:13] <Tom-_> and also to reinstall the older nvidia
drivers, just to get the dkms to work
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2406[19:49:41] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: apt show
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx - does it list your card,
also if you installed nvidia blob its gonna be f'd up
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2408[19:50:00] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: for i in "lspci
-nn" "dmesg -T" "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
"lsmod" "dpkg -l *nvidia*"; do $i|nc termbin.com
9999; done|tr "\n" " "
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2411[19:50:30] <Lady_Aleena> lspci returns nothing.
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2412[19:50:34] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: requires netcat installed
:P
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2413[19:50:50] <enveezee> and also has to be ran as root for some
of those
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2414[19:51:17] <enveezee> should return a single line of urls to
all the relevant info here
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2417[19:52:32] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: /usr/bin/lspci work?
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2418[19:53:53] <LtL> if lspci doesn't work you have bigger
issues
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2419[19:54:02] <Lady_Aleena> Apt-show returns
video-nvidia-legacy-340xx not found.
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2420[19:54:14] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: its in non-free
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2421[19:54:40] <LtL> and its apt show blahblah
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2429[19:58:33] <Lady_Aleena> Enveezee, that line starting with
"for i" isn't doing anything.
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2430[19:59:03] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: if you have netcat
installed and are connected to the internet it will eventually
return a line of urls
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2431[19:59:14] <enveezee> if you're not root, dmesg and
others wont work
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2433[19:59:38] <humpled> but why
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2434[19:59:43] <enveezee>
replaced-url
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2435[19:59:47] <enveezee> is what it did for me
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2436[20:00:22] <Tom-_> heh she's working from her phone
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2437[20:00:35] <Tom-_> maybe don't make her type in long
command lines
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2439[20:00:53] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, /usr/bin/lspci is not a
directory.
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2440[20:01:00] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, can you run dpkg -l
'*nvidia*' | nopaste ?
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2442[20:01:19] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: the long line won't work
probably because lspci doesn't work, fix that first
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2443[20:01:36] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, when you got Nvidia working
for the first time, did you download it from the Nvidia website, or
did you use the Debian non-free packages?
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2444[20:01:46] <ska> Can you recommend a REST api testing tool
that is native to Debian? Somethig like postman?
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2445[20:01:50] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: no its not, thats the absolute
path for lspci, which you claim doesn't work
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2448[20:02:54] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, /usr/bin/lspci at
htto://paste.debian.net/1086061
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2453[20:03:33] <dvs> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA
Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
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2455[20:04:12] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: your path must be off/wrong.
/usr/bin/ should be in your $PATH
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2456[20:04:38] <dvs> well, you now have the info
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2457[20:04:59] <enveezee> yeah but its not the info I'd
asked for :P
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2459[20:05:06] <greycat> has anyone filed a wishlist bug with
lspci yet, saying "PLEASE MAKE -nn THE DEFAULT"
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2462[20:05:13] <enveezee> heh
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2463[20:05:16] <dvs> heh
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2464[20:05:17] <enveezee> seriously
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2465[20:05:45] <teclo> evening, I'm looking for a mp3 tag
editor that works
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2466[20:05:47] <Lady_Aleena> Tom, dpkg -l *nvidia* returns a long
list
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2469[20:06:03] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: did you run nvidia-config you
did didn't you.
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2470[20:06:06] <greycat> teclo: I've always used mp3info for
v1 tags and id3v2 for v2 tags
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2473[20:06:26] <greycat> I don't know of any tag editors
that handle *both* kinds of id3 tags
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2475[20:06:36] <enveezee> due to the size of the output of those
commands thats why I'd used for loop rather than just (foo;
bar; baz)|nc termbin.com 9999 cause there are limits to size on
termbin
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2476[20:06:39] <Lady_Aleena> Tom, getting nvidia to work was so
long ago, I don't remember.
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2477[20:06:48] <teclo> greycat: gonna try that thank you :)
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2479[20:07:17] <enveezee> why are you working from your phone to
begin with?
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2482[20:07:37] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, were you able to use the last
paste link I posted?
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2484[20:07:42] <enveezee> I find it hard to imagine you coded
your website in perl and you can't handle logging in on a
terminal and running irssi in screen
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2485[20:07:49] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: enveezee makes a point, install
irssi or weechat
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2488[20:09:32] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: no, its typed wrong but dvs
says your card is supported by the non-free driver. if you ran
nvidia-config that will mess things up usually. looking at your
paste now
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2490[20:09:53] <HelloBeer> enveezee, have you seen my last
message ?
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2492[20:10:53] <Lady_Aleena> I did not run nvidia-config.
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2495[20:11:12] <enveezee> judging from the dmesg output, the
problem is noveau is not blacklisted
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2497[20:11:23] <enveezee> cause I see both noveau and nvidia
loading
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2498[20:12:27] <enveezee> HelloBeer: probably, but your issue is
not debian related.. its a hardware specific thing.. and I gave you
links to thinkwiki which explains that stuff
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2504[20:14:17] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: enveezee is correct. blacklist
nouveau. also strange lspci is not in your path. apt install
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx should work but enable
non-free
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2506[20:15:11] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl,that is installed.
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2511[20:15:25] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: lose nouveau
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2512[20:15:29] <LtL> reboot
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2513[20:15:34] <Greyztar> how do limit normal logon retries? I
saw i could use pam module limit on services but cant seem to find
what to look for normal logon limit?
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2514[20:15:39] <enveezee> dmesg shows a driver conflict, that may
be your only problem
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2515[20:16:06] <greycat> Subject: Bug#929984: Acknowledgement
(lspci: please make -nn the default)
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2516[20:16:14] <HelloBeer> Ok, it's just that I don't
know which debian tool to use (there is many) and I thought some
people may know. I'll try the recommended way (in the readme
file), thanks.
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2517[20:16:23] <greycat> I don't actually expect it to
*work*, but I had to try.
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2518[20:16:29] <Lady_Aleena> Where do I blacklist nouveau?
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2519[20:16:43] <annadane> don't worry, nvidia as a company
has seen to that already
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2522[20:17:16] <LtL> /etc/modprobe.d/
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2525[20:17:24] <dvs> not helpful
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2526[20:17:42] <greycat> !blacklist
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2527[20:17:42] <dpkg> To blacklist a Linux kernel module,
create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line
similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name".
If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename
/bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'.
IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a
module at installation time, ask me about <installer
blacklist>.
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2529[20:17:48] <LtL> im busy
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2530[20:17:51] <PaddyF> is there a package that creates the
default directory structure?
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2531[20:18:01] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, I may have typed lspci in
wrong.
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2532[20:18:01] <greycat> PaddyF: /msg dpkg debootstrap
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2535[20:18:19] <PaddyF> greycat: without data in it i mean, just
the directories
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2537[20:18:55] <greycat> PaddyF: what do you want? A literal
"no"? OK, here you go: no.
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2539[20:19:00] <PaddyF> with the permissions. basically, i only
need the permissions of the base directories
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2540[20:19:11] <PaddyF> ah, sorry then
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2542[20:19:26] <Lady_Aleena> Hold on a minute, I need to reread
comments above.
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2543[20:19:47] <PaddyF> Lady_Aleena: sometimes a web forum is
easier cause you have all the time you need
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2547[20:20:14] <ksk> PaddyF: if you messed with permissions of
directories on a large scale, there is no short solution to that.
(you can of coure write yourself a tool, which gets permissiosn from
a clean debian install, and puts them onto your borken system...).
ask dpkg about reinstall ;)
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2549[20:20:30] <Tom-_> Lady_Aleena, I agree with the people who
say to blacklist nouveau and to install
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx again
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2550[20:20:42] <PaddyF> ksk: uff. hmmm
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2551[20:20:53] <HelloBeer> Goodbye world. I'll come back if
I don't have a brick
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2553[20:21:08] <Tom-_> if that works then it works, if it
doesn't then we'd try to remove other nvidia packages
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2554[20:23:22] <Lady_Aleena> Enveezee, what is
"screen"?
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2555[20:23:38] <greycat> we went over that yesterday, Lady_Aleena
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2556[20:23:59] <jamesbond-4711> hi, I am running a debian
"Stretch" server with an old version of nextcloud. I now
want to update nextcloud to the current release. The documentation
of nextcloud says, it needs at least php version 7.1. But the
standard repositories of debian stretch only provide php 7.0. - I
was told by the nextcloud guys that php 7.0 is "end of
life" and I should install it from some repository
(packages.sury.org/php/).
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2558[20:24:57] <dvs> ,v php
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2559[20:24:58] <judd> Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49;
buster: 2:7.3+69; sid: 2:7.3+69
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2560[20:25:07] <dvs> wait a month
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2561[20:25:08] <jamesbond-4711> I am really confused... - my
understanding (until now) was, that debian is a well-used server
distribution. So I could not imagine that it ships with a php
version that is end of life?
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2562[20:25:21] <Lady_Aleena> So much is being thrown at me I am
very lost and confused.
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2563[20:25:29] <PaddyF> web forum
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2564[20:25:31] <PaddyF> try it
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2567[20:25:52] <greycat> jamesbond-4711: it's not
Debian's fault that upstream PHP developers EOLed a version of
PHP so quickly after it was current
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2568[20:25:56] <ksk> jamesbond-4711: if this debian release is
still supported the debian team will try to backport security fixes
to that php-package.
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2570[20:26:07] <ksk> but also, php is not like the best software
upstream, one could argue..
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2572[20:26:21] <Lady_Aleena> I don't have logs in this IRC
chat, so I can't review what was said when.
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2573[20:26:39] <PaddyF> its clearly a layer 8 problem
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2574[20:26:47] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: thanks for the explanation
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2575[20:26:49] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: sorry i was incomplete, install
screen and irssi, this will all be much easier
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2576[20:27:05] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: I don't like to mess
with additional repositories
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2578[20:27:24] <PaddyF> haha, install IRSSI for that person?
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2580[20:27:36] <greycat> from
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2581[20:27:43] <LtL> PaddyF: um what?
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2582[20:27:44] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: do you think it is worth a
try to update to the latest nextcloud release and stay on php 7.0?
is there a chance that will work?
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2584[20:27:46] <PaddyF> sorry, i shutup already
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2585[20:27:57] <Lady_Aleena> dist-upgrade never works for me
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2586[20:28:12] <ksk> jamesbond-4711: when nextcloud says it needs
a version newer than the one you have, then no.
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2588[20:28:47] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: you'll get there, install
what i mentioned and toss the phone
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2590[20:28:53] <PaddyF> but 1 last comment: have you male people
ever wondered why you give a user with a feminine nick extra
attention?
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2591[20:29:02] <Lady_Aleena> Please give me a minute. I broke
again.
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2592[20:29:10] <greycat> PaddyF: yes, it has been discussed in
the past
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2593[20:29:25] <PaddyF> they why build a temple for a dummy?
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2595[20:29:42] <LtL> PaddyF: she is a regular, regulars tend to
get more help.
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2596[20:29:49] <PaddyF> haha, okay
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2598[20:29:58] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: so if I don't like to
use some non-standard repository but I want to continue using
nextcloud, then I have to switch from debian to some other linux
distribution (like arch)?
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2600[20:30:06] <LtL> PaddyF: and that was rude.
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2601[20:30:14] <PaddyF> of course it was. it was intended
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2602[20:30:18] <tds> jamesbond-4711: or just wait for buster
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2603[20:30:28] <ksk> jamesbond-4711: what tds says.
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2604[20:30:41] <enveezee> or upgrade to buster now..
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2605[20:30:42] <jamesbond-4711> ksk: what or who is buster?
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2606[20:30:57] <enveezee> jamesbond-4711: the upcomming release
Debian 10 is buster
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2607[20:31:03] <ksk> !tell jamesbond-4711 about buster
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2609[20:31:17] <ksk> (and it is what, and who, indeed!)
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2610[20:31:18] <LtL> jamesbond-4711: buster is the future
'stable' version 10 debian
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2611[20:31:20] <greycat> buster looks like it has 7.3 which
according to that wikipedia page will expire in December 2021. So if
buster releases late this year and bullseye takes more than ~2
years, we'll run into the same issue in 2021.
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2612[20:31:31] <jamesbond-4711> oic - sorry, I did not know :-)
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2613[20:31:53] <jamesbond-4711> but I guess, nobody knows when
exactly buster will be released, right?
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2614[20:31:54] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, screen and irssi are
installed, now what?
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2615[20:32:00] <greycat> jamesbond-4711: right
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2618[20:32:26] <enveezee> jamesbond-4711: of course we know, it
will be released exactly when this green line hits the bottom of
this graph.. heh
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2619[20:32:59] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: start screen, type irssi, type
/connect freenode.net
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2622[20:33:10] <enveezee> or just type screen irssi
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2624[20:33:53] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: disconnect from screen with
ctrl+d return to it with screen -r
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2625[20:33:55] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, screen | irssi
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2626[20:34:04] <LtL> no
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2627[20:34:05] <greycat> No. Not a shell pipeline.
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2628[20:34:18] <enveezee> Lady_Aleena: screen irssi
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2629[20:34:21] <greycat> And it's not ctrl-d. It's
ctrl-A, then d.
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2630[20:34:30] <LtL> greycat: oops
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2632[20:34:53] <LtL> im doing too many things, apologies
Lady_Aleena
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2634[20:34:56] <enveezee> the control char C-a must preceed all
commands to screen
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2635[20:35:14] <greycat> for the record, I don't think
trying to teach Lady_Aleena how to use a brand new IRC client in the
middle of this crisis is a winning move
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2636[20:35:19] <humpled> i don't understand why they chose
ctrl-a when it already has a use
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2637[20:35:23] <dvs> agrred
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2639[20:35:25] <greycat> let alone teaching her irssi *and*
screen
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2640[20:35:29] <dvs> agreed to
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2641[20:35:29] <enveezee> heh
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2644[20:36:00] <Lady_Aleena> "Cannot open your terminal
'/dev/tty1' - please check."
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2646[20:36:14] <enveezee> I personally can't fathom how she
managed to code a website in perl and doesn't know how to do
any of this other stuff
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2647[20:36:20] <LtL> it beats using a phone and its not rocket
science, just trying to make it easier for her ostensibly
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2648[20:37:32] <dvs> it would only be temporary until she gets X
back.
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2651[20:38:19] * enveezee tattoos screen+irssi4life on dvs's rear
end
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2658[20:40:16] <dvs> What it sounds like she needs is: cat
"blacklist nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
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2659[20:40:18] <Lady_Aleena> Well, /dev/tty1 seems important to
get irssi going, and it can't be opened.
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2663[20:41:09] <greycat> I'm terrified to guess what
Lady_Aleena *did*
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2666[20:41:25] <dvs> greycat, did for what?
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2667[20:41:31] <greycat> to generate that error message
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2668[20:41:41] <greycat> maybe she tried that pipeline that was
incorrectly given
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2670[20:42:03] <Lady_Aleena> I did NOT try the pipe.
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2671[20:42:23] <greycat> dvs: echo, not cat
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2673[20:42:45] <dvs> oops. you're right
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2674[20:43:13] <dvs> echo "blacklist nouveau" >>
/etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
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2679[20:45:00] <Lady_Aleena> Picture for you re. screen irssi
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2680[20:45:57] <SwedeMike> what happens if you start screen
first, and then irssi once screen has started?
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2681[20:46:22] <SwedeMike> I've seen those kind of errors if
I "su" to another user
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2682[20:46:23] <Lady_Aleena> Swede
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2684[20:46:46] <Lady_Aleena> Swedemike same thing.
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2685[20:47:07] <SwedeMike> Lady_Aleena: screen starts normally,
then irssi complains when you try to start irssi?
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2688[20:47:46] <Lady_Aleena> No, it complains about /dev/tty1
when I try to run screen.
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2689[20:47:55] <SwedeMike> right,
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2690[20:48:06] <SwedeMike> did you su to someone else there
somewhere?
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2692[20:48:23] <dvs> This is just sidetrack stuff
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2695[20:49:20] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, run: grep nouveau
/etc/modprobe.d/*
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2698[20:50:35] <Lady_Aleena> Dvs, it returned nothing.
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2699[20:50:40] <dvs> good
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2700[20:50:53] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, run: echo "blacklist
nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
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2703[20:51:05] <dvs> maybe as root if necessary
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2705[20:51:19] <greycat> you'll need to be in an actual root
shell for that to work. you can't just stick sudo in front of
it.
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2711[20:53:10] <Lady_Aleena> The echo returned nothing.
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2713[20:53:24] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, good, now reboot
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2714[20:53:32] <Lady_Aleena> I logged into root as
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2716[20:53:52] <Lady_Aleena> Rebooting
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2717[20:53:58] <Tom-_> do you need to update-initramf -u after
you modify modprobe.d?
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2718[20:54:22] <dvs> oh? you have a point
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2719[20:54:32] <greycat> !blacklist-initramfs
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2720[20:54:32] <dpkg> If your kernel uses an initramfs image
(e.g. Debian stock kernel images), you need to run
«update-initramfs -u» in order to refresh its copy of
blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your
blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf
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2721[20:54:38] <kidnextdoor> GUYS HOW SHOULD I GO ABOUT
INSTALLING STEAM IN DEBIAN 64?
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2722[20:54:42] <kidnextdoor> sorry caps
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2723[20:54:54] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2724[20:54:57] <somiaj> kidnextdoor: steam is provided as a
package in non-free
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2725[20:55:14] <greycat> you have to do multiarch stuff first,
though
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2726[20:55:17] <xparanoik> .
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2728[20:55:18] <kidnextdoor> itried it but some stuff was missing
and system refused to insttall it
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2729[20:55:25] <Tom-_> dpkg, multiarch
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2730[20:55:25] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign
architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be
installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386
&& apt-get update». See
replaced-url
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2731[20:55:32] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2732[20:55:56] <kidnextdoor> but if i install from the file in
steam website, does it automatic no?
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2738[20:58:01] <Greyztar> is there a place i could read up about
how to lockout users or groups after x attempts?Have tried different
versions with pam modules but doesnt seem to work is there an debian
guide or so maybe?
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2740[20:58:23] <somiaj> kidnextdoor: use the package in debian to
ensure you get all the depends that are needed (the package then
downloads the actual steam binary from valuve)
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2742[21:00:40] <Lady_Aleena> Do I need to do the Eco again and
then do the update?
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2746[21:01:17] <Lady_Aleena> s/Eco/echo/;
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2747[21:01:36] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, run: grep nouveau
/etc/modprobe.d/*
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2750[21:02:50] <StyXman> is it OK if freetype-dev contains
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so ?
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2751[21:03:01] <Lady_Aleena> It is there in local.conf
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2752[21:03:18] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, what is the output exactly?
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2754[21:04:26] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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2755[21:04:28] <StyXman> also
replaced-url
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2757[21:04:57] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, it's
"blacklist", not "black-list"
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2758[21:05:08] <greycat> ...
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2759[21:05:27] <Lady_Aleena> I saw a hyphen.
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2761[21:05:47] <dvs> there was no hyphen
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2765[21:06:23] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, edit /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
and remove the hyphen
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2766[21:06:31] <Lady_Aleena> This IRC client inserted one.
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2769[21:06:42] <Greyztar> must also update initramfs again no?
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2770[21:06:43] <greycat> open the file with a regular text editor
(nano or vim), remove the hyphen, save/exit, and run
update-initramfs -u
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2772[21:06:58] <dvs> Greyztar, eventually
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2781[21:10:47] <Lady_Aleena> Running update
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2782[21:10:55] <dvs> update what?
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2784[21:11:22] <Lady_Aleena> Update-initramfs done
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2785[21:11:31] <dvs> good, now reboot
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2787[21:11:43] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: shutdown -r now
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2789[21:12:11] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: just like that verbatim
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2796[21:13:36] <greycat> I think she has successfully rebooted
before, so she probably doesn't need *that* part spelled out.
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2798[21:14:17] <LtL> greycat: im beginning to wonder just what
she knows
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2799[21:14:18] <Lady_Aleena> Sorry LtL, I typed reboot and hit
enter before your message about shutdown.
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2800[21:14:21] <ksk> ./j #debian-lady
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2801[21:14:25] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: np
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2803[21:14:38] <greycat> "reboot" is also ok
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2804[21:14:45] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, doing it your way now.
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2806[21:16:08] <dvs> doesn't matter
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2807[21:16:35] <LtL> my old habits die hard.
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2808[21:17:08] <greycat> I usually exit from my login shell, and
then hit ctrl-alt-delete. No residual unsaved shell history that
way.
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2818[21:22:32] <mia> Hello there
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2819[21:22:37] <dvs> zzzzzzz
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2824[21:23:00] <Guest80975> I have multiple linux installation on
the same device, which one controlls the grub menu? how can I find
it out?
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2826[21:23:21] <Mia_temp> ok this nick is much better
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2832[21:24:04] <dvs> ha!
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2833[21:24:06] <Mia_Farrow> dvs,
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2835[21:24:07] <Mia_Farrow> :)
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2836[21:24:30] <Mia_Farrow> So I was using ubuntu, now I've
installed deepin to chck it out, and my grub menu styling completely
changed
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2837[21:24:41] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, I don't know much.
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2838[21:24:45] <Mia_Farrow> so if I switch back to ubuntu and do
update-grub what will happen?
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2839[21:24:49] <Mia_Farrow> I'm wondering
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2841[21:25:14] <greycat> we don't support deepin or ubuntu
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2842[21:25:41] <Mia_Farrow> greycat, this is more of a general
linux question
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2843[21:25:55] <greycat> so ask ##linux
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2845[21:25:56] <Mia_Farrow> since they're both ubuntu /
debian based I wanted to ask here ---
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2846[21:26:02] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: i didn't mean to insult
you, it's difficult to help when we don't know a
users' level.
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2849[21:26:35] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, dumb blonde level
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2850[21:26:40] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: so, do you have X
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2858[21:27:06] <Lady_Aleena> No X yet. dmesg paste again?
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2859[21:27:27] <dvs> yes
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2862[21:27:39] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: It couldn't hurt, sooner
the shorter
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2866[21:28:18] <Lady_Aleena> It is dmesg right?
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2867[21:28:24] <LtL> right
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2871[21:29:27] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: I still think a re-install
would have been quicker.
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2872[21:29:38] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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2873[21:30:13] <greycat> ,file mt7601u.bin
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2874[21:30:17] <judd> Search for mt7601u.bin in stretch/amd64:
firmware-misc-nonfree: lib/firmware/mt7601u.bin
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2875[21:30:39] <dvs> [ 11.678075] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm
0.0.0 20150116 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
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2877[21:32:02] <dvs> I guess mt7601u.bin is needed?
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2878[21:32:37] <Lady_Aleena> I wish I knew what that was.
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2880[21:33:03] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, sudo apt-get install
firmware-misc-nonfree
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2881[21:33:04] <greycat> google says it's a wifi thing
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2882[21:33:09] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: [ 11.653635] nvidia: loading
out-of-tree module taints kernel. /* driver issue */
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2883[21:33:11] <dvs> oh, nvm
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2884[21:33:34] <dvs> LtL, but the module is initialized
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2885[21:33:41] <dvs> [ 11.678075] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm
0.0.0 20150116 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
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2887[21:34:05] <LtL> dvs: nod, i don't know what i would try
next
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2888[21:34:22] <dvs> me neither, I don't use nvidia
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2889[21:34:30] <dvs> for this very reason
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2890[21:34:32] <LtL> i've seen that before without serious
problem
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2891[21:34:41] <Lady_Aleena> Do I still install
firmware-misc-nonfree?
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2892[21:34:50] <greycat> it would probably be a good idea
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2895[21:35:48] <Lady_Aleena> Then reboot?
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2896[21:36:02] <greycat> it's not going to affect your
nvidia stuff
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2897[21:36:04] <dvs> Actually, pasting /var/log/Xorg.0.log would
be the next step
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2902[21:37:24] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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2905[21:38:37] <greycat> did you not (re)install the NVIDIA
340.xx Legacy driver yet?
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2907[21:39:01] <dvs> apt-get install --reinstall
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
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2909[21:39:32] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2910[21:39:40] <greycat> but start with what dvs said
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2911[21:40:26] <ziGuy> Hello guys. xorg is not working.
can't remember what was my previous settings but i remove all
nouveau packages and installed xserver-xorg-video-radeon
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2912[21:40:39] <ziGuy> don't know if the problem is with the
driver or xord
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2913[21:40:42] <ziGuy> xorg
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2914[21:40:47] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, apt-get install --reinstall
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
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2916[21:41:00] <Lady_Aleena> Doing it now
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2917[21:41:10] <Lady_Aleena> Done
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2919[21:41:25] <dvs> ziGuy, methinks that's wrong: ;-)
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2920[21:41:30] <dvs> let's repeat
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2921[21:41:39] <dvs> ziGuy, apt-get install --reinstall
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
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2922[21:41:58] <ziGuy> but i don't have an nvidia card
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2923[21:42:16] <ziGuy> but a radeon
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2924[21:42:26] <dvs> ziGuy, a radeon what?
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2926[21:42:57] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, try rebooting now
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2928[21:43:19] <Lady_Aleena> Yep
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2929[21:43:21] <ziGuy> what exact model u mean?
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2930[21:43:25] <dvs> yes
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2931[21:43:27] <greycat> ziGuy: lspci -nn
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2933[21:43:33] <dvs> even better
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2934[21:43:56] <ziGuy> -vnn gives: HD 5400/6300/7300
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2935[21:44:07] <dvs> old stuff
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2937[21:45:03] <ziGuy> correction, it was the audio. HD
5000/6000/7350/8350
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2938[21:45:20] <ziGuy> yeah... old one but works fantastic
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2941[21:45:56] <ziGuy> used to do some 3d works once but now i
just need my simple 2d GUI :)
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2943[21:46:00] <dvs> ziGuy, do you have the firmware-amd-graphics
package install
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2944[21:46:12] <ziGuy> let me check
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2949[21:47:19] <ziGuy> yes but it ofers me to update it, should i
go for it?
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2950[21:47:23] <ziGuy> nothing to loose i think
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2951[21:47:31] <saskwach> I'm trying to configure some
network interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces, and they're
not getting IPv6 link-local addresses. I suspect the problem is
related to my use of the "no-scripts" directive, but I
can't figure out which script is responsible. Anyone know what
I could be doing wrong?
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2954[21:48:03] <dvs> ziGuy, do it
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2960[21:49:03] <Lady_Aleena> screen images.
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2963[21:49:28] <ziGuy> reboot after done?
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2964[21:49:48] <greycat> wouldn't hurt to try
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2968[21:50:52] <ziGuy> i've got some errors like [
1297.486470 ] ata5.01: status: {DRD ERR }
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2969[21:51:00] <majuscul2> I am debugging a tls problem with a
self-signed cert which I am installing on a machine at
/usr/share/ca-certificates/foo/ca-bundle.crt & then
update-ca-certificates. How can I confirm that
update-ca-certificates is at least seeing my certs and making them
available to the system? I know something is wrong because curl
replaced-url
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2970[21:51:29] <dvs> ziGuy, well, it won't be that one if it
didn't work.
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2971[21:51:47] <dvs> oh wait, isn't that a disk error?
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2973[21:52:04] <greycat> "ata" implies a disk
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2974[21:52:17] <ziGuy> no don't say this
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2977[21:52:29] <dvs> it's dying, my friend
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2978[21:52:51] <ziGuy> but wait, it must not be the issue with
the display
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2982[21:54:33] <ziGuy> yeah, got some i/o errors here but i want
my display and later i'll check and solve the disk issue
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2985[21:55:26] <ziGuy> after reboot i've got multiple
Started Session ### of user ziguy. i've got 260 like those but
don't have GUI
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2991[21:58:52] <Lady_Aleena> Okay, I'm now using irssi on my
computer. At least I got that going.
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2999[22:01:16] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: With greycat's approval I
would run this AFTER renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak
Since it recognizes your GPU it should work, \n
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3001[22:01:24] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: Xorg -configure; cp
/root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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3002[22:01:53] <greycat> I don't know nvidia stuff.
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3003[22:02:01] <dvs> me neither
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3004[22:02:02] <Lady_Aleena> Ltl, hold on a moment, I am looking
at how to navigate irssi.
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3005[22:02:19] <greycat> if the instructions on the wiki
didn't work, and dvs's suggestion didn't work, then I
have no idea what to do other than google whatever errors you get
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3006[22:02:22] <LtL> i haven't used it since it used the
'nv' driver myself
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3007[22:02:39] <Lady_Aleena> I don't know how to get around
irssi and back to the command prompt to run things.
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3008[22:03:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: ctrl+a-d from screen or you
habve to quit.
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3009[22:03:11] <greycat> if you're working on the console,
you probably just want to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 Ctrl-Alt-F3 and so on for
separate task sessions
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3010[22:03:41] <greycat> you get 6 of those by default
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3012[22:03:53] <LtL> occam's razorr bites me yet again
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3013[22:04:05] <humpled> but then you can't copy and paste
to here, and using irssi becomes pointless :þ
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3015[22:04:24] <greycat> she could turn on logging for later
review
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3016[22:04:40] <ziGuy> i don't see the radeon driver loaded
in lsmod, i don't have it in modprob.d. any suggestions?
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3017[22:04:41] <Lady_Aleena> That's the problem, I
can't copy and paste since I'm not in KDE since X
doesn't like me anymore.
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3018[22:04:42] <humpled> point
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3022[22:04:57] <humpled> screen can copy and paste ;)
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3023[22:05:41] <greycat> probably too much of a learning curve
for that right now
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3028[22:07:03] <Lady_Aleena> And my phone battery is running low,
so I will lose the web soon.
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3040[22:10:42] <ziGuy> greycat, do u have an ieda how to make my
radeon driver loaded? u mentioned u r not into nvidia stuff so
it's not nvidia:)
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3041[22:11:30] <greycat> ziGuy: get your ACTUAL device ID from
lspci -nn (it's an 8 digit hex string in square brackets) and
google it. With key words like "debian" or
"linux".
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3042[22:11:45] <greycat> that's why I asked for lspci -nn
before
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3044[22:12:02] <Lady_Aleena> It is getting to the point where I
think that I need to fresh install of stretch, because issues are
piling up.
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3045[22:12:02] <greycat> ,bug 929984
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3046[22:12:03] <judd> Sorry, the requested bug was not found.
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3052[22:13:38] <ziGuy> ok, searching. thanks
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3053[22:13:51] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, you probably still run into
these issue from a fresh install because it looks like you're
dealing with a video card problem..
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3054[22:14:11] <dvs> and Nvidia drivers aren't installed by
default.
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3057[22:16:18] * Tenkawa notes its a lot harder to p2v windows to a
linux box nowadays4
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3058[22:16:56] * humpled waits for a translation
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3059[22:17:17] * Tenkawa is having a bear of a time getting vmware to
ignore most of his host hardware
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3061[22:17:34] <Tenkawa> it use to be a lot easier
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3062[22:17:46] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: can you pastebin
/etc/X11/xorg.conf ? have you tried 'nvidia-xconfig'
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3063[22:17:54] <Tenkawa> and I really really hate gpt
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3065[22:18:19] <EdePopede> really? better than the old system
with 4 partition entries
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3066[22:18:22] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: i don't recommend xconfig
btw
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3067[22:18:30] <dvs> I like the idea found here better:
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3068[22:18:31] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, hold please.
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3069[22:18:39] <Tenkawa> EdePopede: true... it was limited
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3070[22:19:11] <melpy> throw nvidia in trash and wait for new amd
gpu ;)
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3072[22:19:34] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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3074[22:19:43] <Tenkawa> melpy: I like my 6 gb gpu thank you very
muvh
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3075[22:19:47] <Tenkawa> er much
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3077[22:19:56] <Tenkawa> it runs great
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3080[22:21:15] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: sooo you did run xconfig, or a
package did, it looks okay to me.
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3081[22:21:26] <melpy> amd better open source drivers
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3083[22:21:50] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, I don't remember manually
running it.
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3087[22:22:24] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: rename it and run Xorg
-configure; cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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3088[22:22:45] <LtL> last shot
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3090[22:23:21] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: be root by the way.
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3094[22:24:47] <Lady_Aleena> LtL, I'll give that a try.
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3096[22:25:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: type it perfectly, notice the
semi-colon
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3103[22:26:55] <Lady_Aleena> Error: Number of created screens
does not match number of detected devices.
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3104[22:27:08] <Lady_Aleena> Configuration failed.
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3106[22:27:41] <ziGuy> OK, i had nomodeset in GRUB. now it's
better but still don't the X run correctly although the driver
is loaded
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3108[22:28:05] <ziGuy> got a message that something went wrong
and a button to log out. Will look into it in a sec
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3109[22:28:05] <dvs> ziGuy, type "startx"
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3112[22:28:38] <ziGuy> after logging out it's just
reappearing
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3114[22:31:07] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: the nvidia-xconfig is known to
cause problems
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3116[22:31:52] <dvs> That's why I like the Manual config
found here:
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3118[22:33:29] <LtL> dvs: i'm agreeing with you, trouble is
possible remnants of nvidia's script somewhere
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3122[22:34:28] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: try dvs's url
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3123[22:34:42] <Lady_Aleena> LtL: reading it now.
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3124[22:35:16] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, type those two commands, mkdir
and echo, EXACTLY as it says as root.
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3126[22:36:21] <Lady_Aleena> Please give me a minute.
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3132[22:37:53] <Lady_Aleena> Quick question, from the command
prompt, how to I make long commands scroll to the next line instead
of wrapping on the same line?
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3133[22:38:33] <greycat> by having the terminal set correctly and
by using bash and not ksh
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3134[22:38:53] <greycat> if you did something to make bash to
horizontal-scrolling, it's usually something like fucking up
the $TERM variable
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3135[22:38:54] <ziGuy> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-
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3136[22:38:58] <Lady_Aleena> How do I know what I am using? And
how do I switch?
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3139[22:39:57] <greycat> more like what did you *do* to make it
act this way
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3142[22:40:04] <ziGuy> should recreate Xorg.conf, right? what the
wizard is not showing? it just do nothing
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3143[22:40:08] <greycat> if you simply log in and type commands,
it shouldn't do this
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3144[22:40:27] <saskwach> Lady_Aleena: `echo $SHELL` will tell
you what you're using.
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3145[22:40:38] <ziGuy> echo $? give 0
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3146[22:40:42] <dvs> ziGuy, you have a Xorg.conf? Not necessary
for a Radeon card.
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3147[22:40:48] <Lady_Aleena> I'm using bash.
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3148[22:40:58] <greycat> $SHELL doesn't actually say what
shell you're in, but ... meh. Whatever.
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3149[22:41:04] <greycat> how did you break your TERM variable
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3151[22:41:18] <Lady_Aleena> And echo $TERM returned linux.
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3152[22:41:28] * dvs types shell and goes down a rabbit hole
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3153[22:41:30] <ziGuy> echo $0 will give u the shell, more
precisely
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3154[22:41:38] <saskwach> How about "help | head -n 1"
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3156[22:41:47] <greycat> ziGuy: the only solid answer I've
found is ps -p $$
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3157[22:42:04] <ziGuy> the same i think
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3158[22:42:05] <greycat> ps -p $$ works in sh or csh family
shells, on BSD or SysV flavors of ps
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3159[22:42:27] <ziGuy> just don't count on an env variable
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3160[22:42:42] <greycat> $0 can be a lie. $SHELL is a request for
future shells, not an indication of current shell.
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3161[22:42:50] <ziGuy> it's like deciding which user is
loged in by $USER
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3165[22:43:49] <Lady_Aleena> Found it. Thank you.
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3168[22:44:40] <saskwach> Does anyone know what causes link-local
IPv6 addresses to be assigned to interfaces using ifupdown?
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3169[22:45:13] <ksk> saskwach: what are you trying to do?
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3170[22:45:22] <Dagger> link-locals are automatic. so long as the
link is running, v6 is enabled on that interface and the MTU is
>=1280 the kernel will add them automatically
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3171[22:45:35] <Dagger> things like dhcpcd or network-manager may
interfere, mind
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3178[22:47:45] <saskwach> I'm trying to bring up an
interface, but it's not getting a link-local address assigned
automatically.
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3180[22:48:05] <Lady_Aleena> I am going to reboot again. I hope
to be back soon.
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3183[22:48:31] <saskwach> I used "no-scripts" on it, so
I wouldn't expect things to interfere with it.
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3188[22:49:39] <victorqueiroz> Damn, I'm so sick of Debian
freezing on my Ryzen. This is just ridiculous. I just got a .git
folder corrupted
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3189[22:50:02] <saskwach> /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/mesh0/mtu says
1500, and /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/mesh0/disable_ipv6 is 0
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3190[22:50:14] <saskwach> and yet, mesh0 doesn't have a
link-local IPv6 address.
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3197[22:52:13] <Lady_Aleena> Well, I'm still not in KDE
after following the directions on the page that I was pointed to. I
am sorry that I have taken so much of your time. I don't know
what to try next.
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3198[22:52:41] <greycat> Fundamentals. What happens when you try
to start X? What does it say in the Xorg.0.log file?
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3200[22:52:55] <Lady_Aleena> Do I just type X or something else?
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3201[22:52:57] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, what is in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf ?
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3202[22:53:09] <saskwach> startx
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3203[22:53:19] * Lady_Aleena has to write things down, hold on.
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3205[22:53:41] <saskwach> Hey, whatever I did last worked!
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3206[22:54:29] <saskwach> Huh, just adding "iface mesh0
inet6 manual"
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3207[22:54:32] <saskwach> weird
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3209[22:54:39] <victorqueiroz> Can anyone help me with this?
Sometimes when I go back to my computer after sometime without
moving it I get freeze and can't do anything else. I'm
honestly sick of this. Can this be caused by HDD?
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3212[22:57:29] <Lady_Aleena> ACK!
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf is a mess.
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3214[22:57:45] <Lady_Aleena> I forgot the -e when echoing.
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3215[22:58:12] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, it should look like what is on
the config page:
replaced-url
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3216[22:59:42] <Lady_Aleena> dvs, well, I screwed up.
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3217[22:59:58] <Lady_Aleena> brb, I hope
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3225[23:02:26] <downtrip> Hi, quick question - my sources.list
now points to testing but the command 'lsb-release -a'
says buster (as does /etc/os-release). The original install was
stable. Will the lsb-release rollover to 'testing' when
buster is released or take the name of next-stable?
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3226[23:02:48] <greycat> buster *is* testing right now
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3227[23:03:54] <downtrip> greycat: So the lsb-release indo for
testing just takes the name of the next release?
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3228[23:04:17] <downtrip> s/indo/info
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3230[23:04:32] <petn-randall> downtrip: If you keep testing in
your sources.list you'll start surprise upgrading once buster
releases. So we generally recommend using release names in the
sources list.
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3231[23:05:04] <greycat> unless you actually *want* to continue
the roller-coaster ride of perpetual testing for some reason
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3232[23:05:12] <greycat> most people do not
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3234[23:05:50] <saskwach> That's what Sid is for!
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3237[23:07:13] <Lady_Aleena> Well, that didn't work either.
Also, when I tried "startx" I got a list of errors, and it
somehow disabled my ability to use screen.
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3238[23:07:52] <Tenkawa> got an example?
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3239[23:08:17] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, what's in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
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3240[23:08:42] <downtrip> saskwach: I am ok with roller coaster,
I use Arch too. Would Sid be better than testing. Reading the wiki
it seems security is better. I can deal with breakage, I'm
trying Debian on a spare box
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3241[23:08:56] <Lady_Aleena> paste.debian.net/1086165
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3243[23:09:43] <saskwach> downtrip: I run Sid on my development
desktop, and have for over 10 years. It breaks rarely.
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3245[23:10:32] <Tenkawa> well thats a short conf file
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3246[23:10:47] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, There is no
"EndSection" in the file
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3248[23:11:45] <downtrip> saskwach: I'll give it a go
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3249[23:11:56] <saskwach> Nope, link local addresses have
mysteriously disappeared again. That's what I get for trying to
save the configuration in my image generator.
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3250[23:11:57] <dvs> oops! I take that back. sorry
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3253[23:12:07] <Lady_Aleena> Line 4
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3254[23:12:48] <Tenkawa> but that file looks way short if thats
"all" you are defining
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3255[23:12:53] <Tenkawa> theres no screens
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3256[23:12:59] <Tenkawa> etc etc
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3258[23:13:09] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, it was just indented too. Just
unindent it for clarity's sake.
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3259[23:13:17] <Tenkawa> only the card itself
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3263[23:13:35] <Tenkawa> actually
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3264[23:13:42] <Tenkawa> not evem the card
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3265[23:13:48] <Tenkawa> just the driver
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3266[23:14:01] <Tenkawa> otherwise it would have a bus address
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3268[23:14:13] <Primer> All of that is unnecessary in modern X
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3269[23:14:15] <Tenkawa> and location for a card
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3270[23:14:49] <Primer> The easiest thing to do is to start with
no xorg.conf or any files in xorg.d
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3271[23:14:58] <LtL> Primer: i agree
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3272[23:15:03] <Tenkawa> Primer: right if it "auto"
found... thats what she's having problems with
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3273[23:15:17] <Primer> I can help with that
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3274[23:15:18] <Lady_Aleena> Indent removed.
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3277[23:15:58] <Lady_Aleena> rebooting again
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3279[23:16:08] <Primer> I see you're using startx.
That's good. When you do so...
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3280[23:16:15] <Primer> yeah, really should not IRC from the same
machine :)
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3281[23:16:39] <Tenkawa> I wonder if she has one of those built
in video cards thats conflicting
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3282[23:16:53] <Primer> So how far has this gotten? Confirmed
that the kernel driver is in, matches the libs, etc.?
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3283[23:17:04] <Primer> And there's no prime involved
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3285[23:17:12] <humpled> hmm
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3286[23:17:14] <kidnextdoor> guys
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3287[23:17:20] <kidnextdoor> steam:i386 : Depends:
libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 but it is not going to be installed
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3288[23:17:24] <Tenkawa> yeah i assume nouveau is out of the
picture right?
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3289[23:17:26] <kidnextdoor> cant go around this help please
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3290[23:17:59] <Primer> I have a 5 display nvidia proprietary +
intel up here on Debian. I'm sure I can figure this out :)
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3292[23:18:19] <dvs> Primer, be our guest
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3293[23:18:38] <Primer> So, let's start fresh, shall we?
I've been following, but hesitated until now (bored)
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3294[23:18:47] <Tenkawa> Primer: same here.. works great.. but I
do things a lot more manually
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3295[23:18:57] <Primer> I see you need to use 340, because of the
card. Is this a laptop?
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3296[23:19:13] <Lady_Aleena> No, it is a desktop with old
hardware.
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3297[23:19:28] <Primer> Ok, so this is the only video card, and
you're booted to console, yes?
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3298[23:19:38] <Lady_Aleena> Yes to both
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3299[23:19:42] <Primer> lsmod | grep nouveau <-- reports
nothing, correct?
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3300[23:19:54] <Primer> as reoot, of course (not going to prefix
sudo to everything)
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3302[23:20:08] * dvs logs in as "reoot"
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3303[23:20:13] <Primer> Going to presume a certain level of
expertise
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3304[23:20:21] <Primer> hehe not sure how that happened :)
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3305[23:20:21] <dvs> Primer, don't
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3306[23:20:26] <Primer> stuck key
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3308[23:20:36] <Primer> ok, thanks for that
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3310[23:20:38] <Primer> SOOO
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3311[23:20:43] <Primer> sudo lsmod | grep nouveau
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3312[23:20:49] <Primer> that should report nothing
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3313[23:20:51] <at0m> no need for root to lsmod
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3314[23:20:54] <Lady_Aleena> lsmod returned nothing when I
grepped nouveau
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3315[23:21:00] <dvs> Primer, I bet it should
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3316[23:21:05] <saskwach> Well this is no good, now I'm
getting inconsistent results.
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3317[23:21:07] <Primer> at0m: is it not in /sbin? Should be...
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3319[23:21:19] <Lady_Aleena> Primer, think dumb blonde level of
expertise
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3320[23:21:24] <petn-randall> kidnextdoor: On which OS release?
How are you installing steam?
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3321[23:21:29] <Primer> ok, sudo dmesg | grep -i nvidia, look for
the kernel module lines
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3322[23:21:33] <at0m> whereis lsmod
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3323[23:21:33] <at0m> lsmod: /bin/lsmod /sbin/lsmod
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3324[23:21:40] <Primer> You know what to look for here, I take
it?
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3326[23:21:52] <Primer> Something like 340 loaded, etc.
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3327[23:21:54] <kidnextdoor> im in debian 9.9, im installing it
as i was suggested in this channel by the repository
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3328[23:22:00] <saskwach> Things in /sbin don't necessarily
require root to run. "/sbin/ifconfig -a", for example
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3329[23:22:06] <kidnextdoor>
replaced-url
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3330[23:22:16] <Primer> saskwach: yes, but /sbin should not be in
a user's path
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3331[23:22:24] <at0m> saskwach: sure, but then /sbin by default
isn't in user's $PATH
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3332[23:22:28] <saskwach> Well, not by default.
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3333[23:22:29] <saskwach> Yeah.
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3334[23:22:30] <Primer> and if you sudo correctly, it'll be
in that path
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3335[23:22:30] <at0m> so needs full path
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3337[23:23:02] <Lady_Aleena> Primer:
replaced-url
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3338[23:23:02] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: so, dmesg | grep -i nvidia,
pastebin that, please
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3339[23:23:32] <Lady_Aleena> Primer:
replaced-url
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3340[23:23:40] <Primer> Excellent so far. So you've removed
/etc/X11/xorg.conf and all files from /etc/X11/xorg.d/, yes?
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3342[23:23:57] <Primer> also rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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3343[23:24:21] <Primer> And it seems this is the only machine at
your disposal, so you're not sshing into it to do stuff, right?
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3344[23:24:24] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I am writhing things down to
check things. One at a time please?
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3346[23:24:57] <Primer> hehe you've never been on a really
busy channel, have you? :)
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3348[23:25:33] <Primer> Anyhow, the next step is to startx, but
this has the potential to leave your keyboard in "raw"
mode
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3350[23:25:41] <Primer> Meaning, you have to hit the button if
you can't ssh into the box
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3353[23:26:25] <Primer> So, I presume you are logged in as your
user in the console of this machine, no X is up, your DM probably
failed a bunch of times
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3354[23:26:30] <Primer> if so, startx
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3356[23:26:39] <ziGuy> Guys, help will be appreciated. Can't
get rig of "Oh no! Something has gone wrong." and "A
problem has occurred and the system can't recover"
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3357[23:26:44] <Lady_Aleena> I have xorg.conf,
xorg.conf-nvidia-config-original, and xorg.cong for good measure.
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3358[23:27:06] <Primer> make sure all those files I listed are
NOT present in those locations
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3359[23:27:10] <Primer> trust me
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3360[23:27:12] <ziGuy> i've recreated xorg.conf by X -
config
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3362[23:27:24] <magic_ninja_work> Lady_Aleena, are you still
tryin to fix your system?
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3363[23:27:32] <dvs> magic_ninja_work, yup
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3364[23:27:44] <Primer> Anyone with X issues: Your best starting
point is NO files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.d/
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3366[23:28:03] <Primer> Nvidia or not
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3367[23:28:11] <magic_ninja_work> Poor girl. How long has it been
installed? Just wondering if a reinstall may be faster.
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3368[23:28:11] <Lady_Aleena> I don't have an xorg.d dir, but
I do have an xorg.conf.d dir.
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3369[23:28:19] <Primer> X can usually figure this out, and when
it can't, there are other ways
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3370[23:28:20] <greycat> Primer meant xorg.conf.d
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3373[23:28:32] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: that's what I meant.
Ensure that directory is empty.
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3376[23:29:07] <Primer> I've owned #nvidia here on freenode
for almost 20 years. I know this stuff. You're getting premium
support here.
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3377[23:29:11] <Lady_Aleena> So delete my newly creted
20-nvidia.conf?
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3378[23:29:15] <Primer> yes
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3379[23:29:21] <Primer> or back it up, whatever
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3380[23:29:23] <saskwach> A clue! "IPv6:
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): mesh0: link is not ready"
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3381[23:29:25] <Lady_Aleena> Hold please.
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3382[23:29:25] * dvs cries
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3383[23:29:42] <Primer> dvs: sorry, am I undoing what you had her
do?
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3384[23:29:50] <Primer> I did presume your gender, yes
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3387[23:30:02] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: 20-nvidia.conf is gone now.
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3388[23:30:05] <Primer> startx
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3389[23:30:08] <LtL> Primer: we're happy to have help on
this, thanks
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3390[23:30:15] <Lady_Aleena> Do I delete all the other xorg.conf
files?
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3391[23:30:18] <Primer> LtL: my pleasure
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3392[23:30:22] <dvs> Primer, Yeah, we just created
20-nvidia.conf. If it must be deleted, delete it.
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3394[23:30:24] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: and xorg.conf ? gone
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3395[23:30:27] <Primer> only /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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3396[23:30:32] <Primer> and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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3398[23:30:36] <Primer> to make sure
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3399[23:30:41] <Primer> and run sync too
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3400[23:30:42] <Primer> hehe
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3402[23:30:47] <Primer> in case you have to hit the button
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3406[23:31:08] <ziGuy> Xorg log:
replaced-url
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3407[23:31:09] <Lady_Aleena> Going to delete those files.
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3408[23:31:24] <Primer> If you're not doing this in a
terminal, you're not doing it correctly :)
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3409[23:31:59] <Primer> My 2¢
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3410[23:32:10] <Lady_Aleena> The files are deleted.
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3411[23:32:16] * magic_ninja_work admires the dedication
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3413[23:32:27] <Primer> I presume you read my disclaimer
regarding startx
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3414[23:32:43] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I have no choice but to do
it on the command line, I can't get into KDE right now.
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3415[23:32:46] <Primer> And I believe this is what you have been
using to test X, yes?
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3417[23:33:04] <dvs> Primer, sddm is installed
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3418[23:33:09] <dvs> I hope
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3419[23:33:37] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: you said something about
sync, is that "sudo sync", are there other things I need
to add to that command?
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3421[23:33:48] <Primer> dvs: I personally had to use lightdm in
my day old debootstrap on zfs root running those aforementioned 5
displays with nvidia proprietary + intel
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3422[23:33:56] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: correct
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3423[23:34:15] <Primer> that will ensure your fs changes are
committed to disk, in case the machine hard locks
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3424[23:34:23] <Lady_Aleena> sudo sync has been run.
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3425[23:34:26] <Primer> when starting X, which is what I hope to
have you do soon
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3427[23:34:41] <Primer> ok, so again, startx _may_ hose your
keyboard
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3428[23:34:48] <Primer> You've probably seen this
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3431[23:35:04] <Primer> And confirm you also deleted
/var/log/Xorg.0.log?
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3432[23:35:09] <Lady_Aleena> Not yet, however, startx does mess
with screen.
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3433[23:35:18] <Primer> ok, first, don't be in screen
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3434[23:35:21] <Lady_Aleena> Yes, I deleted that log file.
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3435[23:35:24] <Primer> I use screen all the time too
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3436[23:35:34] <majuscul2> So I've been able to get my certs
imported via update-ca-certificates.... but only by overwriting some
existing mozilla cert. wtf do i need to do to get
update-ca-certificates to see my file? same permissions, same dir
structure, same format, same extension
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3437[23:35:39] <Lady_Aleena> I was told to use screen to use
irssi.
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3438[23:35:47] <Primer> yes
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3439[23:35:48] <Primer> that's fine
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3440[23:35:51] <Primer> let's use alt-f3
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3441[23:35:53] <Primer> but
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3442[23:35:57] <Primer> Don't do anything yet
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3446[23:36:10] <dvs> NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo........
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3447[23:36:16] <magic_ninja_work> heh
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3448[23:36:19] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: thats different exit screen
completely
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3449[23:36:49] <Primer> yeah, I need to stop hitting enter. Ok,
so, here's what you do: continue to use screen and irssi, but
we're going to learn the alt-fX trick. Do you know the alt-fX
trick?
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3450[23:36:50] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: quit itrssi, type exit to exit
screen
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3451[23:36:52] <Lady_Aleena> AFK for a moment.
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3452[23:37:00] <Tenkawa> did anyone ever have her run
nvidia-xconfig out of curiosity while she is restarting. my
/etc/X11/xorg.conf is fully populated and that other file doesnt
exist
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3454[23:37:14] <Tenkawa> restarting/away
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3456[23:37:20] <Primer> Nononon not yet, don't do that.
First, you're probably currently in alt-f1
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3457[23:37:33] <Tenkawa> i was just asking
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3458[23:37:37] <Primer> If you do alt-f2, you should see a new
login prompt
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3459[23:37:44] <Primer> To get back, do alt-f1
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3461[23:38:01] <Primer> Report back once you've learned this
or that you know this already
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3462[23:38:01] <Tenkawa> I had that buffered for last 20 min..
she is afk
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3464[23:39:45] <Primer> Tenkawa: one thing at a time. A good
starting point is to just start without an xorg.conf and look at the
log
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3465[23:39:54] <Primer> I want to look for things like other
xorg.conf files
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3468[23:40:05] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: I've been navigating
between "screens" with Alt-F1 and Alt-F2 each time you ask
me to do to something.
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3469[23:40:35] <Tenkawa> actually its not
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3470[23:40:42] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: Excellent! So, instead of
running startx in screen, alt-f2, and do so there, but don't do
this yet
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3471[23:40:53] <Tenkawa> but i'm not going to go there
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3472[23:40:55] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, well, that's not screen
but it's just as good
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3474[23:41:29] <Primer> The thing about X is that it will put the
keyboard into raw mode and possibly hang the display if it crashes
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3475[23:41:30] <Lady_Aleena> So I did not need screen to run
irssi?
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3476[23:41:32] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: don't confuse console
terminals with the program 'screen' and don't startx
as root. i'm 10-7
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3477[23:41:51] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: yes and no
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3478[23:41:53] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, no, not if you are doing that.
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3480[23:42:16] <Lady_Aleena> Then why did I install screen?
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3481[23:42:36] <Primer> So what you want to do is use alt-f2, (or
f3 or 4,5,6), login, do not run screen, but just run startx. This
will attempt to run X, and likely fail. Once this fails, I'll
want to see /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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3482[23:42:50] <dvs> Lady_Aleena, ask LtL. I would have done it
the way you're doing it now.
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3485[23:43:17] <Primer> I wanted to ensure you removed this file
before every startx attempt, and sync the fs in case the machine
hard locks, so we know we are looking at the file from the last
attempt
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3486[23:43:19] <kidnextdoor> can anyone help me, cant install
steam in debian 9
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3487[23:43:33] <Lady_Aleena> Still waiting for startx to give me
back my prompt./
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3488[23:43:41] <Primer> it doesn't
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3489[23:43:44] <LtL> Lady_Aleena: so you could irc and detach to
use terminal at the same time. switching consoles with alt-f1 alt-f2
is better
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3490[23:43:48] <dvs> Alt+F7?
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3491[23:44:01] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: did you go to that url
posted earlier?
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3492[23:44:08] <kidnextdoor> yes
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3493[23:44:20] <Primer> One at a time, please
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3494[23:44:30] <kidnextdoor> i tryed installing from repos and
the file downloaded from steam site
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3495[23:44:32] <kidnextdoor> nothing works
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3496[23:44:37] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: you got ahead of yourself.
Please explain exactly what you did
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3497[23:44:38] <kidnextdoor> i jsut cant install some
dependencies
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3498[23:44:57] <Lady_Aleena>
replaced-url
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3499[23:45:09] <Lady_Aleena> ^/var/log/Xorg.0.log
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3500[23:45:13] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: So you ran startx, and it
output stuff, and...you expected it to exit? If all is well, it
should NOT exit
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3502[23:45:53] <Primer> So you did alt-f1 to come back to IRC, to
report this now?
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3503[23:45:54] <Tenkawa> kidnextdoor: did you add the
architecture and reload the package cache first
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3504[23:45:55] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: It did finally exit with the
line: xinit: server error
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3505[23:46:02] <kidnextdoor> yes
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3506[23:46:04] <Lady_Aleena> Yes Primer.
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3507[23:46:05] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: ok, this is good!
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3509[23:46:17] <Primer> reviewing that pastebin now
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3511[23:46:28] <dvs> trying to load 'nv'
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3512[23:46:59] <Primer> As you probably already know, this is
your problem: [ 1604.642] (WW) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU
installed in this system is
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3513[23:46:59] <Tenkawa> ok join #steam-help I'll see if I
can help. I got 2 machines right here running it
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3514[23:47:32] <kidnextdoor> i have minimal debian install, if
that helps, i jsut installed minimal debian without anything then i
added openbox, xdm, xorg nvidia drivers and thats it
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3516[23:47:37] <Primer> and all the text that follows. Things is:
[ 1604.595] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 390.116 Sun Jan 27
05:57:42 PST 2019
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3517[23:48:10] <Lady_Aleena> Primer: line number please?
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3520[23:48:16] <Primer> You have the wrong driver installed. I
presume this was all done via pacakges? If so, you need to purge ALL
nvidia packages and start over. This is actually very simple.
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3521[23:48:20] <ziGuy> if anyone is interesting, libgl1-mesa-dri
pkg solved my issue
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3522[23:48:40] <Primer> Lady_Aleena: So, apt purge nvidia* (yes,
I mean that)
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3523[23:48:46] <dvs> the 340 is loaded
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3524[23:48:52] <dvs> well installed
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