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8[00:00:59] <uxfi> ok
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9[00:01:06] <uxfi> hw odo I amek sure I ahve all php7
essential packages isntalled?
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22[00:03:13] <Sveta> for wordpress?
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24[00:03:43] <Sveta> uxfi: install wordpress package, it has
everything in the dependencies
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26[00:04:11] <uxfi_> ok
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97[00:34:38] <AW-> hey
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110[00:38:30] <vitx> Debian package maintainers should look into
making widevine work, other distros manage to get it work fine
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112[00:38:48] <vitx> Not saying Debian package maintainers are
not working hard or anything
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115[00:39:06] <vitx> It's just important for people to get
a smooth experience so that they don't move to another distro
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119[00:39:54] <dTal> !dfsg
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120[00:39:54] <dpkg> DFSG is the Debian Free Software
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191[01:23:10] <vitx> quick question
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192[01:23:17] <vitx> why firefox stable has such an old version
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193[01:23:23] <vitx> why debian stable has such an old firefox
version *
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196[01:24:29] <annadane> because Extended Support Release
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198[01:24:33] <annadane> it undergoes fewer changes
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199[01:25:05] <RoyK> vitx: debian sticks to stable releases of
ff and everything else - ff renews everything on every release,
making it less stable
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201[01:25:34] <vitx> RoyK: Problem is that it's too out of
date
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202[01:25:39] <annadane> (none of this would be an issue if
extensions weren't stupid)
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203[01:25:45] <RoyK> vitx: but you're free to use the
official firefox versions, of couse
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205[01:26:12] <vitx> RoyK: I got Firefox Quantum installed but
if you included it in a repo it would make the lives of many easier
:D
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206[01:26:44] <RoyK> vitx: just use one of the repos out there
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207[01:27:00] <RoyK> vitx: or make one yourself - it's not
hard
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208[01:27:17] <vitx> RoyK: Problem is not me, it's many
people in a similar position to mine
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212[01:29:24] <RoyK> vitx: ask firefox/mozilla to setup a repo,
then - debian doesn't like a ton of changes - it breaks things
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217[01:33:01] <RoyK> vitx: debian is good for stabiliy, really
good, almost as concervative as redhat. ubuntu, mint, fedora &
al includes all sorts of new stuff (perhaps except for ubuntu LTS,
which is a bit more conservative).
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218[01:33:06] <RoyK> !sns
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219[01:33:07] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious
disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time
something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about
<backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than
upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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221[01:34:08] <vitx> RoyK: I am just saying that having new
versions in some extra repos would be nice
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224[01:34:32] <RoyK> vitx: see above
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225[01:34:56] <vitx> RoyK: I meant Debian creating those repos
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227[01:35:22] <RoyK> vitx: backports is usually ok, using SID is
like BASE jumping with an umbrella
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230[01:36:00] <RoyK> vitx: it's not the primary objective
for debian to have all sort of sns in the distro - other distros are
better for that
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232[01:36:19] <RoyK> vitx: or you can use specific packages from
whoever makes the sotware
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246[01:48:18] <hailhinker> Sveta is a marriage scammer
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248[01:49:15] <hailhinker> Sveta is a marriage scammer
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249[01:49:29] <hailhinker> sorry dont mean to repeat
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267[01:58:16] <johnnyfive> You can say that again
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270[02:01:44] <elios> but
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272[02:01:51] <elios> but does it pay off?
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277[02:02:59] <sutekh> sveta is a marriage scammer
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278[02:02:59] <sutekh> sveta is a marriage scammer
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280[02:03:00] <sutekh> sveta is a marriage scammer
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284[02:04:22] <geard> Hey everyone, I'm curious what you
would suggest for controlling out of band Debian installs that you
don't want to open ports on the firewall. I'm thinking a
service that starts and calls a cloud instance and does a reverse
tunnel so I can SSH back into the out of band instance. What are
your suggestions?
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337[02:42:59] <foul_owl> Hi folks. I recently got a logitech
wireless mouse, but lsusb is not even showing the dongle. Tried on
debian 8 and 9. Maybe there is some driver I need to install?
apt-cache search didn't show anything useful. Thanks!
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339[02:43:31] <foul_owl> It's a G903
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340[02:43:50] <DonArmstrong> foul_owl: check dmesg; you should
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343[02:44:41] <foul_owl> Nothing in dmesg
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345[02:46:37] <sussudio> try reseating the dongle.
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350[02:49:43] <foul_owl> Tried unplug/replug about 30 times, no
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351[02:49:45] <foul_owl> Maybe it was DOA
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355[02:50:49] <sussudio> try another port or maybe it needs a
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360[02:52:06] <abrotman> meep!
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361[02:52:40] <foul_owl> Ah interesting ok I get
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363[02:52:58] <foul_owl> On two separate systems
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373[02:58:46] <foul_owl> OK I'm going with "device is
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453[03:38:03] <sutekh> sveta is a marriage scammer
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637[03:52:08] <vitx> When your computer doesn't do what you
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638[03:52:09] <vitx> And half the screen is covered with a big
white stripe,
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639[03:52:09] <vitx> The vendor won't pay any mind to your
gripe,
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640[03:52:09] <vitx> So boot it. Just boot it.
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690[03:55:21] <vitx> When you discover that a process won't
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691[03:55:21] <vitx> If kill -9 won't work there's
nothing else to try.
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692[03:55:21] <vitx> Your jobs are dead meat, so kiss 'em
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693[03:55:21] <vitx> And boot it. 50 hours of work,
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694[03:55:21] <vitx> Just boot it, boot it.
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944[04:38:55] <Sveta> v0idpwn: at h-node.org at the top click
'search'
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945[04:39:08] <Sveta> ... then look at the bottom box, where it
asks to paste an output of a command
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946[04:39:16] <RoyK> v0idpwn: usually it's a firmware
needed for those things
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947[04:39:16] <Sveta> do that, it'll show list of your
chips
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948[04:39:21] <Sveta> link me to the chip that this is
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949[04:39:28] <Sveta> it has driver name and info there too
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951[04:39:41] <Epakai> !ath10k
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953[04:39:42] <dpkg> ath10k is a Linux kernel driver supporting
PCIe 802.11ac (a/b/g/n compatible) wireless LAN devices based on the
Qualcomm Atheros QCA988x 2.0 family of chips (PCI IDs 168c:003c,
168c:abcd). Introduced at Linux 3.11. Firmware from userspace is
required and not currently packaged (bug #724970), ask me about
<ath10k firmware>.
replaced-url
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firm doesn't document the hardware and instead just post a
closed "firmware" which, in fact, is the driver
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1040[05:01:10] <v0idpwn> Im on 4.9, do I need to backport? :X
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1042[05:01:26] <v0idpwn> This mean I have to recompile my kernel?
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1064[05:13:31] <dtux> I am getting 2 SLAAC IPv6 addresses, even
though rdisc6 shows only 1 prefix being advertised. Anyone know why?
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1087[05:30:28] <metastable> dtux: does one start with fe80?
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1090[05:31:48] <dtux> metastable: I have one of those, but that
is not what I'm referring to. (There are also 2 privacy
addresses.) The 2 I'm referring to are mngtmpaddrs.
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1092[05:32:42] <petemc> mngtmpaddrs ?
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1095[05:33:31] <dtux> petemc: that's how they are labelled
in `ip address`
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1097[05:34:22] <metastable> dtux: Look at the host portion of the
two addresses in question. Are the middle bits "ff:fe" on
both or just one?
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1099[05:34:47] <metastable> dtux: are you also running dhcpv6 in
your environment is what I'm getting at.
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1101[05:35:48] <dtux> metastable: yes, they are. I've
configured my router for dhcp-pd so that my hosts will connect via
slaac
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1104[05:37:34] <metastable> dtux: I'm asking because
I've seen misconfigured or misbehaving setups where one address
gets configured via SLAAC, and a second via stateful DHCPv6.
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1110[05:39:14] <dtux> metastable: ah, i see... afaik all stateful
dhcpv6 should be disable don my LAN
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1111[05:39:55] <metastable> I'd wireshark it and see where
the second RA is coming from.
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I'm trying:
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1115[05:40:45] <dtux> metastable: shouldn't rdisc6 catch
that?
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1123[05:46:38] <dtux> agh, no dice
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the third is correct and the other 2 may just be stale
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1134[05:52:13] <petemc> ip n s
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1135[05:53:23] <dtux> just brought the interface down and back
up, if they come back ill give that a go (i assume you mean with
-6?)
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1136[05:53:54] <petemc> ip -6 n s
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1137[05:53:59] <petemc> yeah
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1139[05:54:52] <plasmodu1k> ¡/window next
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side. I changed a config on my router and my server which was
previously affected seems fine now, just the workstation that seems
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I've been using nemo, because I like its user interface and set
of features, but it crashes a lot without running all of cinnamon it
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1492[07:25:10] <CrazyTux> how different is Linux Mint Debian
Edition from Debian?
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1520[07:31:09] <aaap> CrazyTux: linux mint was based on ubuntu .
and debian edition probably mean based on debian directly
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1524[07:31:44] <CrazyTux> aaap, ok. Have you used LMDE?
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1527[07:32:05] <aaap> CrazyTux: haven't try it. what is the
iso size?
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1528[07:32:25] <aaap> CrazyTux: the page which you found the
debian edition?
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1529[07:33:05] <CrazyTux> aaap,
replaced-url
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1532[07:35:59] <aaap> CrazyTux: if you want to challenge yourself
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1535[07:36:08] <aaap> go try lmde
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1536[07:36:28] <aaap> but might as well use debian with xfce
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1537[07:36:30] <aaap> :D
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1539[07:36:53] <aaap> LMDE is however slightly faster than Linux
Mint
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1540[07:37:01] <aaap> i doubt any much faster
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1541[07:37:05] <aaap> :D
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1547[07:38:11] <CrazyTux> aaap, I am using Debian 9.2 xfce. Have
installed KDE Plasma and Cinnamon DEs on it.
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1552[07:40:47] <aaap> CrazyTux: Debian 9.2 xfce will be an
excellent desktop
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1553[07:41:06] <aaap> lightweight
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1554[07:41:09] <CrazyTux> aaap, ok
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1555[07:41:41] <aaap> CrazyTux: i am on linux mint xfce ..
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1556[07:41:55] <CrazyTux> aaap, how can I make Debian 9 xfce look
more visually appealing?
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1557[07:41:56] <aaap> CrazyTux: it use 20mb more memory than
debian 9 with xfce
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1559[07:42:12] <Logg> unusable
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1560[07:43:17] <aaap> CrazyTux: you have to wait for other to
help on that question or try google..
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1563[07:44:06] <CrazyTux> ok
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1579[07:56:24] <happygilmoregent> having trouble with nvidia and
my consoles are just showing the blinking cursor if left idle
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1580[07:56:41] <happygilmoregent> nvidia-legacy-304.135-2
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1583[07:57:42] <annadane> CrazyTux,
replaced-url
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1584[07:58:18] <annadane> other than that, just play around,
it's your system
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1585[07:58:29] <happygilmoregent> which service covers dhclient
because it's not doing it by default
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1586[07:58:34] <CrazyTux> annadane, thanks
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1588[08:00:02] <annadane> CrazyTux, and also editing config files
etc. i know system settings has very fine grained control in xfce
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1589[08:00:24] <annadane> if you know how to navigate the
sometimes confusing interface
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1592[08:01:57] <CrazyTux> ok
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1594[08:02:11] <CrazyTux> btw, is xfce the best DE?
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1595[08:02:17] <CrazyTux> which one you use?
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1596[08:02:45] <annadane> this is getting off topic, you're
better off asking in #debian-offtopic
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1605[08:06:48] <CrazyTux> can I render Debian stable into Debian
testing?
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1607[08:07:01] <happygilmoregent> where is the debian bugtracker?
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1609[08:07:09] <annadane> happygilmoregent, bugs.debian.org
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1616[08:07:34] <annadane> CrazyTux, _can_ you? you _can_, but for
what purpose? moving to testing or sid is risky as it can break, so
be aware of the risks
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1618[08:08:00] <annadane> or i guess it's
replaced-url
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1626[08:08:37] <CrazyTux> annadane, what are the symptoms of
system breakage?
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1627[08:08:54] <CrazyTux> what does it actually mean?
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1632[08:09:04] <CrazyTux> is testing also risky?
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1669[08:10:07] <BenNZ> CrazyTux: if you have to ask then yes
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1671[08:10:09] <annadane> CrazyTux, the wiki does a better job of
explaining it than i can
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1685[08:10:44] <CrazyTux> ok
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1693[08:12:53] <toruvinn> uhhh ovh went down
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1695[08:13:35] <annadane> toruvinn, pick a different mirror then.
replaced-url
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1697[08:14:46] <happygilmoregent> why would dhclient (eth0) not
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1704[08:15:25] <benpro>
replaced-url
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1711[08:17:08] <annadane> benpro, just pick a different mirror.
replaced-url
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1714[08:17:35] <benpro> Yup, jus telling because of
"08:12:53 toruvinn | uhhh ovh went down"
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1716[08:17:59] <annadane> ah
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1717[08:18:07] <toruvinn> annadane, i'm talking about those
ping timeouts... i dont need mirrors of anything atm, thanks. ;-)
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1724[08:20:26] <annadane> i presume it'll fix itself,
i'm sure they have a notification set up if mirrors break
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1725[08:20:36] <annadane> or servers or whatever
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1726[08:20:55] <annadane> (which is the same thing...)
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1738[08:28:55] <CrazyTux> guys, what
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1741[08:29:27] <CrazyTux> what's your opinion on MX Linux
and Sparky Linux. Both are based on Debian.
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1742[08:30:00] <annadane> CrazyTux, again, #debian-offtopic
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1843[09:30:42] <sussudio> did OVH in its entirety go down?
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1845[09:33:41] <klys> ovh.com's front page is down
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1847[09:34:02] <sussudio> i noticed.
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1848[09:34:26] <pragomer> can I change to
"experimental" just via replacing "stretch" with
"experimental" in sources.list?
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1849[09:34:55] <sussudio> why would you do that, pragomer
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1850[09:35:05] <klys> usually, yes. you need the debian-security
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1853[09:36:48] <pragomer> just want to test xfce gtk3 pre version
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power supply of network equipment. We investigate." <
translate.google.com should be better at french to english by now.
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1878[09:48:28] <JustASlacker> any easy way to get nginx with
http2 support?
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1880[09:50:43] <JustASlacker> for debian 8
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1881[09:50:58] <jelly> ,v nginx
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1886[09:52:27] <n4dir> pragomer: you can't change to
experimental at all. You can add it (to sid , to testing too?), but
that's it.
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1887[09:52:50] <jelly> dpkg, tell pragomer about experimental
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this case xfce gtk3, i would rather use a live-distro which offers
it (assuming there is one already, but i guess so)
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1919[10:07:50] <n4dir> ups: pragomer ^^
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2009[10:32:02] <pragomer> so how can I add for example the
experimental xfce4 desktop 4.13 to testing?
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2025[10:33:36] <petn-randall> pragomer: experimental is a partial
suite sitting on top of sid. So you'd have to upgrade to sid,
then add experimental and upgrade the xfce4 packages. And accept
that the maintainer thinks it's not even fit for sid yet, which
means it is probably broken in some way.
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2032[10:34:09] <pragomer> ok. i will upgrade my stretch to sid
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2035[10:34:17] <pragomer> then.. how do I add experimental?
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2041[10:34:34] <n4dir> you would do "apt-get install -t
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2044[10:34:54] <n4dir> you copy the sid line, paste it and
replcace sid with experimental in that line
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2045[10:35:25] <n4dir> imho: not worth the trouble, petn-randall
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2054[10:37:28] <petn-randall> pragomer: Personally, if you want a
working system, stick with stable. testing is buggy, sid is
bleeding-edge hurting at times, and experimental is mostly only
interesting for other Debian devs.
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2061[10:38:20] <n4dir> i once added experimental during the
freeze, but without much gain, iirc
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2066[10:39:05] <petn-randall> pragomer: If you upgrade past
stable, you're also willingly accepting that you're a
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2068[10:39:21] <pragomer> mm.. do you have a good idea how I
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2095[10:47:40] <n4dir> pragomer: i would ask in #xfce ; the web
doesn't spit out an existing liveCD, but i didn't really
search (in general fedora or ubuntu comes to mind )
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2102[10:50:46] <pragomer> they told me (in xfce channel) that
experimental in debian would have the packages already :-)
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2108[10:57:02] <n4dir> well: give it a try (i recall you wanted
to test it in an emulator ?).
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2116[10:59:40] <n4dir> assuming you got enough time at hand. I
wouldn't hold my breath.
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2121[11:01:49] <jelly> pragomer: that may be, but it being
experimental has usual consequences -- expected to work only as an
addition to sid (or testing/unstable mix)
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2134[11:09:48] <pragomer> I added both: sid and experimental to
sources.list now
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2135[11:10:04] <pragomer> how can I now install xfce 4.13 ?
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2139[11:12:14] <babilen> pragomer: Are you sure that's a
good idea?
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2140[11:12:39] <pragomer> its just to try out. its a vm in vbox
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2143[11:13:03] <babilen> You should be able to specify
experimental with "-t experimental", but if you start this
from stable, I'd rather upgrade to unstable first. I'd
also personally use a testing/unstable mix (cf. /msg dpkg tum)
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2149[11:16:09] <pragomer> i have sid and in the 2nd line
experimental in sources.list
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2150[11:16:12] <pragomer> nothing else
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2151[11:17:18] <babilen> Ah, so you were running sid already?
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2152[11:17:26] <jelly> ,v xfce4
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2153[11:17:27] <judd> Package: xfce4 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.8.0.3;
jessie: 4.10.1; buster: 4.12.3; sid: 4.12.3; stretch: 4.12.3
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2155[11:17:44] <babilen> Where are the promised 4.13 packages?
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2156[11:17:45] <jelly> don't see a version for the
metapackage in experimental at all
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2157[11:18:02] <pragomer> 4.13 is a preview to gtk3 I think
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2158[11:18:08] <babilen> Maybe bits of it have been uploaded
already
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2159[11:18:19] <jelly> maybe it should be labeled xfce5 :-)
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2160[11:18:34] <pragomer> I THINK it should be labeled like that
! :-)
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2161[11:18:47] <pragomer> i am just doing dist-upgrade
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2163[11:19:22] <babilen> .:oO( famous last words )
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2166[11:19:59] <pragomer> LOL
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2174[11:23:37] <pragomer> I am running sid now. what package
would I have to install/upgrad via -t experimental ?
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2175[11:24:08] <jelly> xfce4, if it existed
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2177[11:24:58] <pragomer> apt-get install xfce4 -t experimental ?
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2180[11:25:16] <pragomer> tells me "xfce4" is already
the latest 4.12.3
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2194[11:31:09] <petn-randall> pragomer: Hence "if it
existed".
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2224[11:51:52] <Lyberta> what package do I need to install to
build a Qt Widgets app?
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2231[11:59:09] <HyP3r> hey all. I'm trying to configure my
system to do an automatic unattended upgrade. But it isn't
working. I followed this manual:
replaced-url
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2232[11:59:46] <HyP3r> Now one month later, if I do an apt-get
update && apt-get upgrade I'm able to do some upgrades
but thats strange, the system should do this automatic
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2234[12:00:22] <HyP3r> Packages like libcurl or libssl1.0.0
should be upgarded
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2238[12:01:04] <HyP3r> I like to upgrade everything on my system,
my pattern was "o=*";
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2245[12:02:01] <HyP3r> Do I have to create the file
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades?
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2246[12:03:13] <HyP3r> I have created the file
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02periodic and inserted everything 1:1 like
there:
replaced-url
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2249[12:06:48] <petn-randall> HyP3r: By default
unattended-upgrades only does security updates from the security
repo. There can still be regular (non-security) bugfixes that come
through stretch-updates.
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2252[12:07:09] <petn-randall> HyP3r: If you changed that it would
be great to show us the relevant config on
replaced-url
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2264[12:16:01] <RebelCoder> Guys, is there a way to count mouse
clicks in Linux at all ?
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2265[12:16:47] <RebelCoder> For example, I use a web app, and
want to know how much clicks I have made ? without adding specific
code to a web page ?
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2266[12:17:55] <HyP3r> petn-randall: 50unattended-upgrades
replaced-url
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2267[12:17:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> what
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2268[12:18:04] * teraflops shrugs
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2271[12:18:55] <HyP3r> petn-randall: sorry the
50unattended-upgrades was broken:
replaced-url
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2273[12:21:19] <petn-randall> HyP3r: Does
Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern even support wildcards?
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2275[12:21:55] <HyP3r> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2277[12:21:59] <HyP3r> As an alternative to the previous example,
use following code to install every upgrade available through the
used sources lists
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2278[12:22:08] <HyP3r> Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern {
"o=*"; }
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2280[12:23:11] <CuteMeOwnThroat> RebelCoder, xev -id
<windowid> , possibly
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2281[12:23:28] <teraflops> RebelCoder: add it yourself or file a
feature request for such "app" instead of trying crazy
workarounds
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2286[12:24:42] <CuteMeOwnThroat> in principle… it'd
be xev -i 0x200dadc | grep Button
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2288[12:24:52] <CuteMeOwnThroat> where 0x200dadc ist the window
id from xwininfo
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2291[12:25:16] <CuteMeOwnThroat> it doesn't seem to catch
button up and button down on an alien window, though…
although it does on its own. weird
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2295[12:27:56] <petn-randall> HyP3r: Yeah, that blog post might
be wrong, I'd check it in the official docs.
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2298[12:28:24] <HyP3r> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2299[12:28:43] <HyP3r> >If you already configure what to
install via apt pinning, you can simply use "origin=*",
e.g.:
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2300[12:29:52] <rgr> moving from stable to buster. Im unable to
get the keys in. debian keyring is installed. tried purging it and
reinstalling. See the filetype issue in this gist :replaced-url
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2303[12:30:34] <rgr> " The key(s) in the keyring
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported
filetype."
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2307[12:32:10] <RebelCoder> CuteMeOwnThroat, what if it is a
browser window. How do I find the ID of it ?
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2309[12:32:27] <HyP3r> petn-randall: If I run
"LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 unattended-upgrade --debug --dry-run"
this script tries to upgrade all missing upgrades
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2310[12:32:39] <HyP3r> petn-randall: so why doesn't it work
automatically?
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2314[12:34:27] <petn-randall> HyP3r: I'd check
/var/log/unattended-upgrades for hints.
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2321[12:38:30] <lembron> so, mongodb just instacrashes on jessie
-- to fix i have to run "chmod -R go+rx
/sys/devices/system/" -- what gets reverted after reboot -
where and how can i make that fix? ((supposedly it has an issue
reading /sys/devices/system/node/node0 it seems)
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2325[12:40:49] <petn-randall> lembron: Why would that be needed
by mongodb? Looks like you're ripping a huge security hole into
your system doing that.
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2327[12:41:14] <HyP3r> petn-randall: good point. On regular day I
have something like that:
replaced-url
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2335[12:43:52] <HyP3r> petn-randall: but if I run
"LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 unattended-upgrade --debug --dry-run" I
get this:
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2336[12:44:11] <HyP3r> Thats so confusing everything. Why does a
debug run match everything and is trying to install it and a normal
run does nothing
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2337[12:44:55] <petn-randall> HyP3r: No idea, really. I'd
dig how the cron job gets called, and compare that with your run.
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2349[12:52:45] <lembron> petn-randall idk why... but before that
mongo just crashes - after running that it fires up just fine :/
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2350[12:53:16] <lembron> its a "up2date jessie" that
was initally installed just 6-10 months ago
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2362[12:58:45] <grandeverde> ciao
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2363[12:58:49] <grandeverde> !list
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2364[12:58:49] <dpkg> grandeverde: Debian è un sistema
operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da
quello di gratis): vedi
replaced-url
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2366[12:59:13] <grandeverde> !list
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2367[12:59:13] <dpkg> grandeverde: Debian è un sistema
operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da
quello di gratis): vedi
replaced-url
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2370[12:59:55] <CuteMeOwnThroat> !next
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2371[12:59:55] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2373[13:01:19] <slax0r> does it whois the executors IP and
display the mesasge in their native language?
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2391[13:13:27] <petn-randall> ,v mongodb
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2392[13:13:28] <judd> Package: mongodb on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:2.0.6-1.1; wheezy-security: 1:2.0.6-1.1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports:
1:2.4.8-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.4.10-5+deb8u1; stretch: 1:3.2.11-2;
buster: 1:3.2.17-1; sid: 1:3.2.17-1; experimental: 1:3.4.7-1
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2393[13:13:46] <petn-randall> lembron: How does it crash then?
Can you show us the full error message?
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2394[13:14:08] <petn-randall> lembron: Also, are you running the
version from jessie, or from some 3rd party repo?
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2397[13:15:12] <lembron> i would have posted a crashlog long ago
yes... but im impacted by the current OVH downtime, so i cant get to
the server "right now" ;D
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2400[13:15:42] <lembron> badly timed i know... --- it also has
elastic repos, but im pretty sure mongodb-server came from normal
jessie repos
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2410[13:22:52] <gpunk> i know a better hosting company in france
, with 99,9% downtime
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2412[13:22:59] <gpunk> uptime*
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2413[13:23:01] <gpunk> lol
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2414[13:23:42] <gpunk> I dropped ovh just for them ... and that
issue
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2419[13:24:11] <lembron> today shit hit the fan...
dualPowerfailure in a DC, dualGeneratorFailure on that, and then the
whole ring broke and everything went kapow :/
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2428[13:25:21] <lembron> with such exceptional days like once a
year - im overall still pretty happy with them, just dont need
support and have everything twice... (there prices allow todo that
so...)
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2430[13:26:21] <mathisss> why ubuntu is going to be garbage ?
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2431[13:26:25] <gpunk> bof , there are better than them out there
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2432[13:26:40] <teraflops> mathisss: why are you asking such
things here
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2433[13:26:44] <teraflops> ?
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2434[13:27:22] <mathisss> sorry ..
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2435[13:27:49] <JustASlacker> you want #ubuntu
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2436[13:27:56] <JustASlacker> :P
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2442[13:30:11] <mathisss> im really confused any body can answere
why ?
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2445[13:30:30] <IRC23009> hello guys, is it possible to share a
picture here?
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2446[13:30:50] <gpunk> mathisss we can , but this is the debian
channel not ubuntu
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2449[13:31:17] <teraflops> IRC23009: is the picture on topic?
(read the topic)
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2451[13:31:20] <linuxthefish> hi, on debian 9 where is
/etc/network/interfaces moved to?
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2452[13:31:27] <IRC23009> yes it is
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2453[13:31:46] <IRC23009> i know this paste stuff but i couldnt
use it for a picture
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2454[13:31:46] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: Still there where it
always was.
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2455[13:31:48] <teraflops> linuxthefish: it's still there
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2456[13:31:53] <linuxthefish> o
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2457[13:32:00] <lembron> imgur.com IRC23009
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2458[13:32:05] <lembron> nopaste for images :P
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2459[13:32:16] <linuxthefish> my OVH server doesn't seem to
have a /etc/network/interfaces O.o
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2461[13:32:34] <gpunk> ovh is crap
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2462[13:32:41] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: You need to have
ifupdown installed.
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2464[13:32:58] <petn-randall> linuxthefish: Assuming you want to
use that and not network-manager or anything else.
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2465[13:33:14] <teraflops> IRC23009: ah, use something like curl
-F c=@path/to/a/file
replaced-url
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2466[13:33:17] <linuxthefish> ah ok, yeah /etc/network just has
if-down.d if-post-down.d if-pre-up.d if-up.d interfaces.d
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2467[13:33:30] <linuxthefish> i won't mess with it then, OVH
doesn't like things being changed
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2468[13:33:44] <IRC23009> i try to recover my chromebook and this
is what I am getting
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2469[13:33:45] <IRC23009>
replaced-url
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2470[13:33:56] <IRC23009>
replaced-url
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2472[13:34:24] <petn-randall> IRC23009: Are you running Debian?
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2473[13:34:26] <IRC23009> I tried a lot diffrent usb sticks and
microsdcards, removed the battery
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2474[13:34:41] <IRC23009> yes debian was on it
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2480[13:36:35] <teraflops> IRC23009: arm?
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2481[13:36:42] <IRC23009> yes
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2483[13:37:10] <teraflops> so you cannot boot a debian in rescue
mode?
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2487[13:37:34] <teraflops> just asking I have no idea
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2490[13:38:41] <IRC23009> no I cant
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2520[13:54:30] <Lyberta> how can I make Qt apps use dark theme? I
use MATE and selected high contrast inverse theme but it
doesn't work with Octave
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2531[14:01:08] <gpunk> lol OVH's outage is in the news
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2537[14:02:22] <tabakhase> they are ISP in france, and there DNS
was down, so a lot of french users had "no internet"
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2538[14:02:31] <gpunk> Lyberta qtconfig is part of qt and let you
change the theme
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2539[14:02:33] <petn-randall> !ot
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2540[14:02:33] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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2541[14:02:50] <petn-randall> Please move the OVH discussion to
#debian-offtopic. Thanks!
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2542[14:05:03] <Lyberta> gpunk, is it in Qt 5? when I try to
download it it tries to download Qt 4
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2545[14:05:42] <gpunk> I have no clue, but best thing to do is to
try
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2550[14:06:48] <gpunk> there is qtXconfig I think
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2551[14:06:58] <gpunk> X is 3 4 or 5
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2572[14:09:43] <gpunk> you need the 5 I guess ?
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2573[14:10:01] <Lyberta> don't see it in apt...
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2576[14:10:34] <gpunk> try this qt5ct
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2577[14:11:01] <Lyberta> nope
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2578[14:11:34] <HyP3r> petn-randall: I found the issue:
"Configured to install on shutdown, so exiting now"
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2584[14:15:06] <gpunk> qt5ct is on sourceforge only ...
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2594[14:19:14] <petn-randall> HyP3r: Ah, good catch. Didn't
notice that in your config.
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2598[14:21:05] <gpunk> Lyberta: can you run your qt app with
-style=gtk as argument ?
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2599[14:22:04] <Lyberta> says invalid option
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2601[14:22:20] <gpunk> hmm
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2604[14:23:14] <gpunk> what debian are your running and DE plz ?
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2606[14:23:26] <Lyberta> Debian testing, MATE
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2616[14:26:56] <gpunk> debian-testing is for #debian-next on OFTC
network you will find better help there :)
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2617[14:28:19] <Lyberta> gpunk, it's not like changing Qt 5
theme is different between stable and testing
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2620[14:29:36] <gpunk> I know, but they are more aware of
debian-testing dificulties et all , my self i am still looking into
it , for fun
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2631[14:33:55] <`levi> can you remove katoolin without leaving
any trace?
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2632[14:34:08] <petn-randall> ,v katoolin
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2633[14:34:09] <judd> No package named 'katoolin' was
found in amd64.
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2634[14:34:20] <petn-randall> `levi: What is katoolin?
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2635[14:34:30] <petn-randall> More importantly, how did you
install it?
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2636[14:34:49] <`levi> it's a script that is used to install
all kali-linux tools on debian and other distro's
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2637[14:35:32] <petn-randall> `levi: You might want to ask the
maintainer of said script then.
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2639[14:36:00] <petn-randall> `levi: If you need Kali tools,
I'd just install Kali in a VM. I do so, and it's common
practice.
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2644[14:36:42] <petn-randall> Especially since Kali turned into a
rolling release you don't want it as your main OS, and having a
VM makes it easier to restore checkpoints.
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2645[14:37:33] <`levi> I guess I could also try that
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2646[14:38:06] <`levi> petn-randall: which vm do you use?
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2649[14:38:50] <petn-randall> `levi: Do you mean which
virtualization software?
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2653[14:41:41] <`levi> petn-randall: yeah
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2654[14:42:14] <petn-randall> `levi: libvirtd/virt-manager
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2706[15:15:57] <Kiril> hello
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2707[15:16:10] <Kiril> I am not able to run mysql service
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2708[15:16:12] <Kiril>
replaced-url
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2709[15:17:16] <petn-randall> ,v mysql
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2710[15:17:17] <judd> No package named 'mysql' was
found in amd64.
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2712[15:18:09] <gpunk> ,mariadb
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2713[15:18:13] <petn-randall> ,v mariadb-server
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2714[15:18:14] <judd> Package: mariadb-server on amd64 -- jessie:
10.0.25-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1;
jessie-security: 10.0.30-0+deb8u1; jessie: 10.0.30-0+deb8u2;
jessie-security: 10.0.32-0+deb8u1; stretch: 10.1.26-0+deb9u1;
stretch-security: 10.1.26-0+deb9u1; buster: 10.1.26-1; sid:
10.1.26-1; sid: 10.1.28-1; experimental: 10.3.0-0+exp1;
experimental: 10.3.0-0+exp2
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2715[15:18:42] <petn-randall> Kiril: My first guess is that the
database is corrupted. Does mariadb run with an empty database?
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2717[15:19:21] <gpunk> if it s not the "core" database
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2736[15:33:35] <josecapurro> Hello. I know i can use reportbug to
report a bug in a program, but how can i report a bug when building
a source package retrieved using apt-get source and compiled with
dpkg-buildpackage ?
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2742[15:35:44] <RoyK> !bugs
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2743[15:35:46] <dpkg> error: could not parse
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2744[15:35:49] <RoyK> !bug
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2745[15:35:50] <dpkg> Bug Tracking System for Debian packages,
replaced-url
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2749[15:37:01] <josecapurro> RoyK: Thanks!
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2753[15:38:56] <petn-randall> josecapurro: What bug are you
seeing?
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2754[15:39:00] <Kiril> petn-randall: i pressume no
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2756[15:39:34] <petn-randall> Kiril: Well, that would be a way to
check if it's a bug in mariadb, or you have a broken database.
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2757[15:41:01] <josecapurro> petn-randall: I'm not really
sure this is a bug or just incompetence of mine, but i'm trying
to compile Squid with --enable-ssl-crtd --with-openssl, and it fails
with some variables not being declared: CRYPTO_LOCK_X509,
CRYPTO_LOCK_EVP_KEY and CRYPTO_LOCK_SSL.
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2759[15:41:23] <josecapurro> petn-randall: I've installed
libssl-dev and libcrypto++-dev
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2763[15:42:13] <josecapurro> petn-randall: I'll dig deeper
before submitting anything.
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2764[15:42:41] <josecapurro> petn-randall: This is in a Linode,
Debian GNU/Linux 9.2 (stretch)
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2768[15:43:24] <petn-randall> josecapurro: Does it build with the
default flags?
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2772[15:44:35] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Yes, and i've
added --enable-ssl-crtd and --with openssl to debian/rules. This is
for supporting filtering HTTPS connections.
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2773[15:44:42] <petn-randall> josecapurro: I'd look into the
upstream documentation what is needed to compile this, this
isn't a Debian bug if the Debian source package compiles fine
with the default flags and installed build dependencies.
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2774[15:45:17] <petn-randall> josecapurro: I'd also check
when it was added, it might be that the Debian package is not new
enough.
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2780[15:46:06] <josecapurro> petn-randall: In upstream is OK. I
have sucessfully compiled squid3 in CentOS 6 and 7 with SSL support.
I wanted to do the same with Debian.
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2781[15:46:26] <josecapurro> petn-randall: I will try to do this
with the upstream tarball.
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2783[15:47:30] <petn-randall> josecapurro: Which Debian release
are you using?
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2785[15:48:15] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Stretch. 9.2. Linode
image.
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2786[15:49:12] <petn-randall> That should™ be newer than
CentOS 6. Then I'd check which header packages are needed to
compile against. Might be others than you expect.
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2787[15:49:34] <petn-randall> Or you might need to point to the
target dirs with -I.
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2788[15:50:17] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Yes. The repo version
is 3.5.23. I'm downloading from upstream the same version to
compile it with the same flags.
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2791[15:50:29] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Hmmm... It can be...
-I.
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2792[15:50:37] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Will try it first.
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2793[15:51:42] <RedSoxFan07> josecapurro: How do you find out the
repo version?
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2794[15:51:53] <petn-randall> ,v squid
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2795[15:51:54] <judd> Package: squid on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.7.STABLE9-4.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.7.STABLE9-4.1+deb7u2;
buster: 3.5.23-5; sid: 3.5.23-5; stretch: 3.5.23-5
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2796[15:52:03] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: ^^^
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2799[15:53:19] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Bug in uptream:
replaced-url
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2800[15:53:26] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: huh?
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2802[15:55:18] <petn-randall> josecapurro: Does CentOS 6/7 come
with openssl 1.0? Might be why it works there. Debian 9 ships
openssl 1.1.
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2806[15:56:38] <josecapurro> petn-randall: CentOS 6.9 (Final) -
OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013
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2809[15:57:04] <Sepultura_> How the hell do I add binaries to the
packages?
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2815[15:57:35] <josecapurro> petn-randall: Debian 9.2 (stretch) -
OpenSSL 1.1.0f 25 May 2017
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2818[15:57:43] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: Try with less swearing,
and adding more details to your question.
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2820[15:58:27] <josecapurro> petn-randall: So, i believe this is
not a problem from the Debian side. No need to report it.
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2821[15:58:28] <petn-randall> josecapurro: That'll be the
reason then. Either find a squid version that supports openssl 1.1,
or you could install Debian 8 which still ships with openssl 1.0.
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2824[15:59:48] <Sepultura_> petn-randall, I tried to put some
pictures in ~/Packages/cplex/debian/source/include-binaries but it
failed
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2827[16:00:56] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: Step back a little.
What OS are you running?
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2828[16:01:02] <Sepultura_> Debian
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2829[16:01:06] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: Which release?
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2830[16:01:08] <Sepultura_> 9 i think
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2831[16:01:19] <Sepultura_> I downloaded today on your site
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2832[16:01:32] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: "lsb_release
-a" will tell you.
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2833[16:01:49] <josecapurro> Just a thought: in this kind of
case, is correct to show this to the package mantainer in order to
support the feature?
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2837[16:02:32] <josecapurro> The case being the package not
compiling because of version mismatch with
libraries/tooling/requisites
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2839[16:03:03] <petn-randall> josecapurro: They'll likely
know. And wait for upstream to fix it, so they also know. It's
just a matter of when they get around to support it.
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2840[16:03:03] <Sepultura_> Debian GNU/Linux 9.2
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2841[16:03:09] <Sepultura_> (stretch)
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2842[16:03:24] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: And what is your goal?
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2843[16:03:27] <petn-randall> !goal
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2844[16:03:28] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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2846[16:04:13] <Sepultura_> petn-randall, make a package
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2847[16:04:20] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: A package of what?
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2848[16:04:24] <Sepultura_> for cplex
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2849[16:04:39] <JyZyXEL> how to mount a MTP device in debian?
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2850[16:04:41] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: What is your package
source? cplex is not in Debian?
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2851[16:04:55] <petn-randall> s/?$/./
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2853[16:05:29] <Sepultura_> petn-randall, cplex has a bin
installer for all Linux. The Preinst Script downloads and runs it
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2855[16:05:50] <Sepultura_> but I need to copy a picture so I can
use it as Icon for start menu
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2856[16:06:18] <petn-randall> Sepultura_: What is the website of
the upstream project?
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2859[16:07:13] <Sepultura_> the deb Package works if I don't
put any binaries in cplex_12.7.1.orig.tar.gz
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2860[16:07:24] <Sepultura_> or just a text file with Version
number
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2863[16:08:10] <Sepultura_> the preinst script works fine. remove
works fine. I just need to push a picture and a .desktop file inside
the package
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2866[16:09:47] <Sepultura_> every other distribution allows it
too that you put a folder with binaries, pictures text files and say
cp x /usr/share/icons/48x48/apps/cplex.png
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2867[16:10:13] <Sepultura_> so it should be able here too
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2871[16:11:17] <Sepultura_> got it
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2872[16:11:27] <Sepultura_> include-binaries is a file and no
folder :P
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2874[16:13:25] <maxzor> hello rant, one week ago you told me
about xpra, I managed to only lauch simple programs with it (vim,
emacs...) but as soon as gtk or qt comes into play i get trouble
(gedit, virtualbox...). I have made some progress learning about
XOrg and window manager but still know very little.
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2891[16:20:16] <Elodin> Hello guys, i just installed debian and
im having a little trouble to join my wifi. I installed the xfce DE
and configurations seem all right.
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2903[16:22:39] <BCMM> Elodin: do you mean you have tried to
connect, and something went wrong, or that you can't see how to
connect?
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2905[16:23:38] <Elodin> i have tried to connect multiple times, i
even deleted the connection configuration through xfce menu and
created a new one. It sees my wifi but it doesnt stabilish the
connection
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2907[16:24:02] <petn-randall> Elodin: Did you use the firmware
installer?
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2908[16:24:17] <Elodin> although during the installation it was
connected
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2911[16:24:53] <dioporco> ooooo
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2912[16:24:56] <dioporco> hi debianist
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2913[16:25:15] <Elodin> petn-randall: i don't know what it
is
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2914[16:26:01] <Brigo> Elodin, the usual problem is the lack of
firmware.
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2915[16:26:08] <dioporco> #join maradona
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2917[16:26:26] <Elodin> Brigo: you mean the driver for the
network adapter?
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2919[16:27:03] <Brigo> Elodin, if you got connection then forget
my statment.
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2921[16:27:41] <Elodin> Brigo: i can visualise available networks
but i cant seem to connect to them
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2923[16:28:46] <Brigo> Elodin, then i don't think the
problems is the firmware.
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2924[16:29:08] <dioporco> Elodin: have you tried to reboot?
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2925[16:29:23] <petn-randall> dioporco: Do you have a Debian
support question?
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2926[16:29:45] <Elodin> yes i just rebooted, same thing. Im
trying diff configurations like mtu
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2927[16:29:47] <dioporco> petn-randall: not really
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2928[16:29:59] <dioporco> but I am here to help
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2929[16:30:16] <petn-randall> Elodin: Usually you'll find
something in the logs for network-manager. I'd check
/var/log/daemon.log and syslog.
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2955[16:41:00] <tw> Can I prevent kernel modules from getting
automatically loaded when a USB device is plugged/unplugged? Not
specific modules (ie, not blacklist), no new modules at all on
hotplug.
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2956[16:41:33] <petn-randall> tw: Sure, internet search for
"linux usb authorization".
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2957[16:41:47] <petn-randall> tw: The kernel framework is there,
I think Debian even has a GUI for that.
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2958[16:41:57] <tw> petn-randall: cool, thank you much.
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2960[16:42:08] <petn-randall> ,v usbguard-applet-qt
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2961[16:42:10] <judd> Package: usbguard-applet-qt on amd64 --
stretch: 0.6.2+ds1-2; buster: 0.7.0+ds1-2; sid: 0.7.0+ds1-2
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2962[16:42:13] <petn-randall> tw: ^^^ This one.
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2966[16:42:33] <rant> how do I specify ssh port in rsync command?
I tried rsync user@1.2.3.4:56/pathtofile . and it still used port 22
to me that looks to be the syntax in the synopsis
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2973[16:44:07] <rant> oh nm, it says rsync://
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2974[16:44:13] <helldorado> hi all
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2976[16:44:30] <BCMM> rant: if you user rsync:// then you're
using the rsync protocol, not going over ssh
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2978[16:44:55] <RedSoxFan07> rant: Here's what I found in
the manual page for rsync: rsync [OPTION]... SRC [SRC]...
rsync://[USER@]HOST[:PORT]/DEST
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2980[16:45:17] <rant> BCMM: yeah just noticed that..
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2981[16:45:29] <BCMM> rant: you can use the -e param to specify
the SSH command line it should use
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2982[16:45:29] <Elodin> My device state is down and i cant seem
to bring it up
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2987[16:46:34] <BCMM> rant: e.g. rsync -e "ssh -p 56"
user@blahblahblah
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2989[16:46:46] <Elodin> how would i know if my wireless card is
proper installed?
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2990[16:47:17] <BCMM> Elodin: is it listed in the output of
`/sbin/ifconfig -a`?
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2991[16:47:34] <rant> BCMM: thanks, that worked
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2992[16:47:37] <Elodin> ip link is showing wlx0087312a02a8
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2993[16:47:44] <BCMM> rant: also if you regularly connect to this
host you might want to set the port in your ~/.ssh/config
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2994[16:47:45] <Elodin> instead of wlan0
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2997[16:48:33] <BCMM> rant: that way ssh, rsync and so on will
all know the correct params for that host forever
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3000[16:48:57] <Elodin> BCMM: there is no ifconfig here, but ip
link shows this wx0087312a02a8 instead of wlan0
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3002[16:49:07] <JustASlacker> use ip link show
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3003[16:49:37] <Elodin> same thing
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3004[16:49:38] <BCMM> Elodin: i think that's a
"predictable network name"
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3006[16:50:26] <Elodin> it is my network card
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3008[16:50:34] <Elodin> but it's state is down
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3009[16:50:40] <Elodin> i cant seem to bring it uup
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3010[16:50:58] <Elodin> if i remove it from usb, then ip link
show dont shows it
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3011[16:51:05] <Elodin> so it is my card
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3014[16:51:44] <mtn> Elodin, run this in a terminal: sudo rfkill
list wifi paste what you get to paste.debian.net
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3016[16:52:21] <Elodin> its a brand new installation
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3017[16:52:32] <Elodin> i dont have this command rfkill
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3018[16:52:45] <Elodin> oh well
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3019[16:52:45] <mtn> Elodin, install it?
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3020[16:52:58] <Elodin> without internet connection
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3021[16:53:07] <mtn> Elodin, no lan?
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3022[16:53:11] <Elodin> no
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3023[16:53:33] <Elodin> just a question
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3024[16:53:56] <Elodin> say i want to download my wifi card
drivers how would i do that and install them
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3025[16:54:12] <RedSoxFan07> Elodin: connect via Ethernet
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3027[16:54:48] <Elodin> cant i download them from another pc and
install manually?
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3030[16:55:54] <rant> BCMM: hmm.. I'll look into that..
right now I'm just trying to download a disk image and my
connection is too unreliable so I downloaded it remotely and
I'm trying to xfer it to this box.. but its not going well :P
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3031[16:56:19] <BCMM> rant: --partial --progress
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3032[16:56:35] <BCMM> the partial is vital, lets you resume on
interruptions
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3033[16:56:46] <BCMM> the --progress is just to keep you sane on
a slow connection
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3035[16:56:49] <rant> yeah.. doing scp or rsync seems to be
causing my connection to drop
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3037[16:57:07] <BCMM> ooh, i've had connections like that.
basically any heavy traffic will do it probably
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3040[16:59:23] <tw> -P is the same as --partial --progress
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3042[16:59:40] <tw> I usually do rsync -avxP these days
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3044[17:00:23] <RoyK> tw: add -HAXS if you're paranoid, and
perhaps without -x if you want it to recurse into other filesystems
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3046[17:00:51] <tw> people use xattrs and acls in the real world?
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3047[17:01:06] <RoyK> yes
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3048[17:01:08] <RoyK> quite a few
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3050[17:01:22] <tw> Must be nice living in the future ;)
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3053[17:02:07] <RoyK> well, it's 2017 ;)
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3055[17:02:31] <Hachya> I have stretch running as a kvm guest,
but I can't connect to it from the host box, no ping response
or SSH.. No selinux, firewalld, or iptables currently setup. Network
is bridged, and I can get out to the internet from the guest. Any
idea what I'm missing?
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3059[17:03:33] <RoyK> Hachya: using bridge or nat?
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3060[17:03:45] <RoyK> oh - you said bridge
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3061[17:03:59] <Hachya> yeah, first thing I did
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3062[17:04:02] <RoyK> Hachya: pastebin network config
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3063[17:04:06] <`levi> I'm getting a message that the disk
is full. /var/log is extremely heavy, 20gb. Why?
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3064[17:04:22] <RoyK> works for me on a lot of installatiosions
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3065[17:04:22] <Hachya> wish I could, lol, can't copy from
the vmm console.
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3068[17:04:31] <RoyK> Hachya: I meant on the host
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3069[17:04:42] <Hachya> yeah, I can't ssh isto it.
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3070[17:04:49] <Hachya> oh wait
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3071[17:04:56] <Hachya> you mean the host's network config,
whoops
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3074[17:04:59] <RoyK> `levi: check ls -laSr /var/log to see which
file is growing
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3075[17:05:21] <RoyK> Hachya: I do indeed :)
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3076[17:05:32] <Hachya> you want interfaces right?
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3077[17:05:35] <RoyK> yep
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3080[17:05:54] <RoyK> dpkg: tell Hachya about pastebin
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3086[17:07:13] <Hachya> lmao I know what pastebin is
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3088[17:07:41] <RoyK> just for precausion ;)
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3089[17:08:03] <`levi> RoyK:
replaced-url
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3093[17:08:34] <Hachya> it's actually short, just has ine1:
auto lo and line2: iface lo inet loopback
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3095[17:09:06] <Hachya> before that is source:
/etc/network/interfaces.d/*
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3097[17:09:13] <RoyK> Hachya: did you setup bridging at all?
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3098[17:09:17] <a-l-e> after many years, i've tried again to
add a usb printer to my debian laptop...
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3100[17:09:39] <Hachya> I did. The guest can get out fine
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3102[17:09:48] <Hachya> ping, etc. to google dns/google.com, etc
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3103[17:09:55] <RoyK> `levi: better do a tail -f on messages or
just check dmesg - seems something is rather bad
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3104[17:10:03] <`levi> RoyK: sorry for not adding the -h hahah
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3105[17:10:22] <a-l-e> arg, deleted the pastebin instead of
submitting it..
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3106[17:10:23] <RoyK> Hachya: pastebin output of "ip a"
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3108[17:11:30] <Hachya> RoyK:
replaced-url
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3109[17:11:40] <a-l-e> so, after a few years i've tried
again to setup the printing on my laptop but
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3110[17:11:45] <a-l-e> lpr -P HL2270DW
/usr/share/cups/data/testprint
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3111[17:11:46] <a-l-e> fails
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3113[17:11:56] <a-l-e> more details are here:
replaced-url
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3114[17:12:06] <a-l-e> does anybody have a hint?
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3115[17:12:33] <RoyK> Hachya: setup a bridge first, like br0 -
google it
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3118[17:13:06] <Hachya> RoyK: isn't that what virbo0 is?
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3119[17:13:11] <Hachya> *virbr0
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3120[17:13:28] <a-l-e> printing the test document from the cups
web interface also gives me the printer as available, but nothing
comes out.
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3122[17:13:59] <Hachya> and if a bridge wasn't already
setup, the guest wouldn't be able to get out, no?
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3125[17:14:48] <RoyK> Hachya: no, just setup a bridge and choose
that devices, like br0, as the bridging device for the vm - see
replaced-url
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3126[17:14:52] <RoyK> !bridge
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3127[17:14:52] <dpkg> Bridges link two or more network segments
using the same network technology. The network topologies do not
have to be the same, i.e. you can bridge Ethernet and Token Ring. If
the protocols are not the same on segments, then you've got a
router. Bridges are used to reduce network traffic, increase cable
distance (by acting as a repeater) and to link dissimilar topologies
with the same network protocol. Ask me about <bridge setup>.
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3129[17:15:59] <RoyK> Hachya: better do this with a console in
hand, since it may fail if you do something wrong and you may cut of
the branch you're sitting on
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3130[17:16:07] <Hachya> k
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3132[17:16:09] <`levi> RoyK: ok. I tried the tail but the output
is extremely long. Should I pastebin you dmesg?
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3133[17:16:26] <salvatore> Ciao!
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3134[17:16:34] <salvatore> !LISTA
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3135[17:16:41] <rant> bridges are also used to create a
transparent firewall or monitoring/caching system
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3136[17:16:44] <petn-randall> salvatore: Try !list
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3138[17:17:51] <Hachya> yeah I know what bridges are for, setup
one before, just wasn't sure why I'd need to do it when
networking is already working from the guest, just not the ability
to access it from the host.
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3140[17:18:14] <Hachya> which is why I assumed it was something
like SE or fwd/iptables
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3141[17:18:22] <RoyK> `levi: pastebin dmesg, please
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3153[17:21:59] <`levi> RoyK: I can't paste it on
debian.pastebin.net, it says that the request entity is too large
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3155[17:22:12] <`levi> RoyK: it's probably because the
output is too long
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3156[17:22:51] <RoyK> `levi: just dmesg | tail -100 | pastebinit
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3157[17:22:54] <RoyK> it should do
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3158[17:24:16] <`levi> RoyK:
replaced-url
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3160[17:24:44] <RoyK> `levi: ufw logging off
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3162[17:26:06] <CuteMeOwnThroat> hm, in strace output, what kind
of open is: open(0x7fdd71d59a4a, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
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3163[17:26:12] <CuteMeOwnThroat> looks like a memory address
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3165[17:27:23] <jelly> open(2): int open(const char *pathname,
int flags);
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3166[17:27:45] <CuteMeOwnThroat> oh, seems it's a privilege
thing, root gets something else
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3167[17:27:57] <jelly> why did strace not dereference the *, no
idea
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3170[17:29:21] <`levi> RoyK: I see. any idea why this is
happening?
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3172[17:29:55] <`levi> Is there something I can do to solve the
issue and free the disk system disk space
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3174[17:30:49] <maxzor> nvm rant got it sorted was indeed better
to use up to date .deb and not the 0.15 version in repo :) thanks
again is neat
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3175[17:31:35] <`levi> I have set ufw logging off, but what
should I do to clear the disk space
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3183[17:34:41] <jelly> dpkg, qotd299 is --> salvatore
(~salvatore@replaced-ip) has joined #debian <salvatore> Ciao! <salvatore>
!LISTA <petn-randall> salvatore: Try !list
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3184[17:34:41] <dpkg> jelly: okay
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3187[17:35:06] <petn-randall> :)
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3188[17:35:37] <`levi> I just removed messages, ufw.log &
kern.log, RoyK
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3194[17:37:12] <jelly> aand 10 "new" quotes added to
qotd0
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3196[17:37:21] <jelly> !factinfo qotd290
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3197[17:37:22] <dpkg> qotd290 -- created by themill
<~stuart@unaffiliated/themill> at Sun Apr 12 03:43:31 2015
(942 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by jelly at Fri Nov
27 14:46:13 2015.
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3199[17:37:33] <jelly> where "new" is 2015-2017
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3200[17:38:13] <petn-randall> Yay, I'm helping \o/
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3206[17:40:58] <RoyK> `levi: did you turn off ufw logging and
restart rsyslogd/
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3207[17:41:02] <RoyK> ?
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3208[17:41:31] <RoyK> data isn't freed until a file is
closed
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3210[17:41:41] <`levi> RoyK: I turned off ufw logging and I
deleted the logs manually with sudo rm
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3211[17:42:21] <dcpc007> hi, what is the difference between
/usr/local and /opt when choosing folder to manual install via a
.bin a specific software not present in repo ?
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3212[17:42:25] <RoyK> then restart the syslogger
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3213[17:42:43] <RoyK> dcpc007: nothing, really, except
/opt/something isn't in PATH by default
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3214[17:43:13] <RoyK> dcpc007: it's just files - you can put
them under /hahahaha if you like
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3216[17:43:15] <dcpc007> the install here will install a whole
bunch of components ... including a tomcat/java
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3217[17:43:34] <RoyK> dcpc007: what sort of system is this?
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3218[17:43:41] <RoyK> !lsb
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3219[17:43:41] <dpkg> [lsb] Debian is dropping LSB support; see
replaced-url
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3220[17:43:43] <dcpc007> yes, i know but i try to respect some
standard, too bored of looking on old servers <here are the files
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3222[17:43:51] <dcpc007> debian 7, install Atlassian Jira
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3223[17:44:02] <RoyK> oh - jira
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3225[17:44:16] <RoyK> iirc it needs specific versions of java et
cetera
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3226[17:44:23] <RoyK> just put them under /opt/somewhere
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3227[17:44:33] <jelly> dcpc007: debian 7 is really old, and you
want postgres 9.4 for current jira iirc
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3228[17:44:34] <dcpc007> yes, then i will have a
xxx/atlassian/jira/<components>
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3229[17:44:43] <dcpc007> mysql 5.5 is ok
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3234[17:44:59] <jelly> dcpc007: atlassian recommends postgres
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3235[17:45:03] <RoyK> better use postgresql
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3236[17:45:05] <dcpc007> yes but i must duplicate a current Jira
install that was migrated and migrated and ... and not well
configured
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3237[17:45:07] <RoyK> mysql sucks
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3240[17:45:12] <dcpc007> better if you know postgres :)
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3242[17:45:21] <RoyK> it's not a big difference
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3243[17:45:26] <dcpc007> here only mysql knowledge
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3244[17:45:27] <dcpc007> lol
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3245[17:45:29] <jelly> dcpc007: those migrations are done using
their xml export and import anyway
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3246[17:45:30] <RoyK> and there's far less tuning on
postgres
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3247[17:45:40] <dcpc007> no perf need crrently
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3248[17:45:48] <RoyK> just use postgres
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3249[17:46:07] <jelly> our jira person has migrated from oracle
to oracle to postgres, and from linux to windows for the app
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3250[17:46:10] <dcpc007> mysql install and custom is one line
here for me, then no
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3253[17:47:33] <dcpc007> ha for my choice i see another thing :
in my partition scheme, /opt has no lvm (then in the / FS ....),
/usr/local is in the /usr FS with more space :)
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3255[17:47:40] <jelly> so now the app runs on windows, and db is
on debian 8 with postgres from jessie-backports
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3256[17:47:56] <jelly> I'm lying. It's from jessie.
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3257[17:48:03] <RoyK> dcpc007: then create an lv for opt
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3258[17:48:12] <dcpc007> baaah, tomcat on windows ... yeah :)
locally they work badly, need double resources ... and nt well
managed :(-
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3260[17:48:16] <RoyK> dcpc007: it shouldn't be too hard
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3261[17:48:20] <dcpc007> VM already created ... :-(
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3262[17:48:35] <RoyK> dcpc007: then add another disk to it
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3265[17:49:21] <dcpc007> will be good for install in /usr/local
for this test. never had to put a specific disk for a /opt, i want
to limit exceptions inconfigs
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3266[17:49:37] <jelly> inside a VM, keeping everything on LVM
(and PV on whole disk, no partitions at all) makes things a lot
simpler
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3267[17:49:38] <RoyK> dcpc007: keep in mind than when allocating
space for lv's, keep it low and just increase as you go
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3268[17:49:50] <dcpc007> after if all are different can't
make automation
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3270[17:50:00] <dcpc007> lol my prod servers are 60GB disk :)
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3271[17:50:06] * RoyK gives up
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3272[17:50:06] <dcpc007> can't go lower :)
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3275[17:50:33] <jelly> our VMs are 40GB by default and thin
provisioned anyway
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3276[17:50:39] <dcpc007> (i'm trying to implement
config/deply with salt .. )
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3277[17:50:42] <jelly> so really 40, 60, doesn't matter
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3278[17:51:05] <dcpc007> only exception is a 2nd disk for
application data in a /srv/<app_name>/
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3279[17:51:14] <dcpc007> when it's needed (not often :) )
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3280[17:51:29] <`levi> RoyK: done, thank you very much for your
help! :)
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3282[17:52:23] <jelly> jira stores attachments on the app server,
but not much more iirc
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3284[17:52:41] <dcpc007> haaa ok seen the difference...
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3285[17:53:04] <dcpc007> /usr/local should respect a /bin, /var,
/log, /xxx structure under it
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3287[17:53:57] <dcpc007> and /opt should have a
/opt/<ap_name>/<all the files of the app>
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3288[17:54:03] <dcpc007> grrr
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3291[17:55:34] <tw> i usually end up with /opt/vendor/app/*
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3297[18:00:20] <dcpc007> i tend to avoid at max use optional app
and try use the official repo ... then very few cases ... and last
time really small one... first case with a big tomcat/java app
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3302[18:01:21] <dcpc007> i try in my tiny /opt ... myabe
i'll resize my template in the future, but many servers with
this template ... i'll switch when migrate to debian 8-9
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3304[18:01:41] <dcpc007> and ask disk growth (or reduce /usr to
create a /opt)
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3306[18:01:59] <dcpc007> but complicated to multply the FS and
keep a small size
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3308[18:02:49] <dcpc007> loooool damn java !!!!!! in the install
console backspace makes ^H
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3311[18:03:30] <`levi> I can't believe I had 20gb of logs
from ufw lmao
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3316[18:05:52] <dcpc007> thx to you guys
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