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• 6[00:01:43] <sun[BEAM]> yo
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• 14[00:01:54] <sun[BEAM]> Sup. Anyone interested in friendly talking, flirting and Love? Join our Server: irc.ladysclub-irc.net Port 6667 / SSL 6697 Main Room #Outlaws :)
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• 95[00:32:08] <zuiss1> anyone know why this extension would install but not work for me in debian but works in windows? replaced-url
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• 98[00:33:36] <FreeBeastie> because every unsecure hole is open there?
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• 114[00:38:13] <teraflop> FreeBeastie: nope
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• 117[00:39:19] <teraflop> zuiss1: which ff version are you using?
• 118[00:39:26] <FreeBeastie> there is much more truth in it
• 119[00:39:39] <teraflop> FreeBeastie: no, it works on linux using ff
• 120[00:39:53] <zuiss1> teraflop: 45.9.0.
• 121[00:40:00] <Nach0z> a/w 103
• 122[00:40:01] <FreeBeastie> ok it was more a joke
• 123[00:40:05] <FreeBeastie> i admit
• 124[00:40:32] <teraflop> zuiss1: Works with Firefox 48.0 - 56.0 ^
• 125[00:41:10] <zuiss1> teraflop: i think 45 is the latest version that will run on debian stable, right?
• 126[00:41:46] <FreeBeastie> i have 53 and i am now on freebsd
• 127[00:41:48] <teraflop> zuiss1: well, I copied that from their readme
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• 129[00:42:08] <zuiss1> i've tried downloading FF from mozilla's website and it won't execute
• 130[00:42:21] <teraflop> ,v firefox
• 131[00:42:22] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 53.0.is.52.0.2-1; experimental: 53.0.is.53.0-1
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• 137[00:44:47] <zuiss1> i get "Candidate: (none)" when i do a search for firefox or firefox-release
• 138[00:44:49] <zuiss1> weird
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• 141[00:45:30] <teraflop> zuiss1: which release are you using?
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• 144[00:45:57] <teraflop> debian release^
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• 147[00:46:52] <zuiss1> jessie
• 148[00:47:09] <teraflop> I think you do not have backports enabled
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• 152[00:47:35] <zuiss1> i have jessie-backports in my sources.list
• 153[00:48:27] <zuiss1> i have the "firefox-esr" package installed
• 154[00:48:51] <FreeBeastie> i think there is a mistake
• 155[00:48:59] <zuiss1> looks like there is no more "firefox" package in jessie though due to rust dependency
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• 159[00:49:44] <teraflop> zuiss1: replaced-url
• 160[00:49:51] <teraflop> different repo
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• 163[00:50:46] <zuiss1> yea that site says "WARNING: Jessie backports of Firefox release, beta and aurora are gone because of the upcoming requirement of rust to build them, which is not available in Jessie. Please update your apt sources to use Firefox ESR instead."
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• 165[00:52:12] <teraflop> zuiss1: replaced-url
• 166[00:52:31] <zuiss1> oh wait there is a way to get FF esr version 52 though on that link
• 167[00:52:47] <zuiss1> yea, thanks teraflop
• 168[00:52:53] <zuiss1> i will install that one
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• 170[00:53:27] <teraflop> zuiss1: btw I like that extension :D
• 171[00:54:01] <zuiss1> yea it looks nice :)
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• 202[01:01:44] <zuiss1> teraflop: is it working for you? i installed it in ff 52 but nothign happens when i click the switch
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• 207[01:03:13] <teraflop> zuiss1: I do not run debian on desktop machines
• 208[01:03:25] <zuiss1> oh ok
• 209[01:03:41] <zuiss1> what do you use on desktops then?
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• 211[01:03:54] <teraflop> zuiss1: I checked it with ff 53.0.3 on another distro though
• 212[01:04:07] <zuiss1> ok
• 213[01:04:11] <zuiss1> i will keep messing around with it thanks
• 214[01:04:16] <teraflop> zuiss1: maybe you need to clean cache or whatever
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• 216[01:04:46] <glick> hi
• 217[01:05:08] <glick> hi i installed openjdk8
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• 220[01:05:38] <glick> in eclipse when i type import javafx.application.Application, i get an unresolvable import error
• 221[01:05:38] <teraflop> zuiss1: anyway they specify the ff version requirements at the addon site
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• 223[01:05:45] <glick> oops wrong channel
• 224[01:05:46] <glick> sorry
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• 230[01:08:48] <glick> any java devs here?
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• 384[02:25:36] <ToyKeeper> Is there a known issue with mounting nfs3 in debian 9? Ever since updating, I just get "mount.nfs: mount system call failed".
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• 387[02:26:06] <ToyKeeper> It looks like there may be something going on with systemd, which has the "nfs-common" service masked.
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• 396[02:29:40] <ToyKeeper> First time in at least a decade I've run into nfs issues... usually I can just "apt install nfs-common" then mount nfs3 shares.
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• 409[02:35:38] <ToyKeeper> If I try to downgrade nfs-common and rpcbind to a version which is known to work, apt tells me I'll have to remove systemd.
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• 424[02:42:24] * ToyKeeper finds some intermediate older packages in /var/cache/apt/archives on another system, installs them, and suddenly nfs3 works again.
• 425[02:42:42] <ToyKeeper> I suppose I should probably file a bug for this.
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• 447[03:06:54] <__imp__> hi hi... I'm was pretty used to init. Now I have turned to systemd (so far so good), but for some reason my system ALWAYS get stuck while mounting my local disk and goes to emergency mode. I do not need to do anything besides a CTRL+D and the system finishes to boot fine. I was not able to figure out what can be hapenning. It says: systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device
• 448[03:06:59] <__imp__> dev-disk-by\x2duuid-ac26e212\x2d0185\x2d49ed\x2d8373\x2dbb512b74180c.device (that is my home partition, but home is finely mounted). Can some soul help me to figureout what is happening?
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• 457[03:14:15] <__imp__> my fstab is here: replaced-url
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• 464[03:19:55] <alyssa> If I file a request for packaging on a trivial package (arch any, written in C with a simple makefile), what are the chances that somebody will get do it? Alternatively, if I package it myself, what are the chances it will be sponsored?
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• 483[03:30:54] <awal1> any wizard here for answer alyssa's question? :P
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• 623[05:14:49] <piter_> testme
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• 710[06:07:49] <MrBk7> hi
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• 714[06:10:50] <theFancyHuman> hi'
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• 717[06:14:30] <theFancyHuman> Are you guys alright with raspbian / raspberry pi questions?
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• 719[06:14:57] <theFancyHuman> #raspberrypi weren't much help
• 720[06:15:47] <alyssa> don't ask to ask
• 721[06:15:53] <regent_sec> hello
• 722[06:16:05] <theFancyHuman> Ofc sorry
• 723[06:16:20] <TomG2> dpkg, raspbian?
• 724[06:16:20] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
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• 726[06:16:33] <theFancyHuman> Sorry for apologising X-D
• 727[06:16:36] <TomG2> does that help at all?
• 728[06:16:46] <theFancyHuman> I'll send the paste
• 729[06:16:50] <theFancyHuman> Nah
• 730[06:17:13] <TomG2> i don't think they'll help here but I'm not going to stop you
• 731[06:17:17] <theFancyHuman> I know what it is, I'm trying to install Metasploit but I am having problems with gems
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• 733[06:17:43] <theFancyHuman> Yea fair enough
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• 735[06:18:35] <theFancyHuman> Basically, I'm getting this:
• 736[06:18:40] <theFancyHuman> "There was an error parsing `Gemfile`:
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• 738[06:18:57] <theFancyHuman> "There was an error loading `metasploit-framework.gemspec`: can't modify frozen String. Bundler cannot continue."
• 739[06:19:23] <theFancyHuman> There is code below that error that outlines it in detail if anyone needs it
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• 741[06:19:59] <theFancyHuman> oh
• 742[06:21:00] <regent_sec> /msg NickServ REGISTER <dannyick143> <thedon156@gmail.com>
• 743[06:21:16] <theFancyHuman> Oh
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• 759[06:37:31] <foul_owl> Does anyone here use debian for playing music? What music player do you use?
• 760[06:37:59] <zeeble> Clementine, with GUI
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• 762[06:38:15] <alyssa> RhythmBox, also with GUI. Previously mpd + ncmpcpp. Before that GNOME music.
• 763[06:39:12] <foul_owl> Thanks! Do either of those have a "cover art" view?
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• 766[06:39:53] <foul_owl> What's wrong with my question
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• 770[06:42:05] <foul_owl> I've tried banshee but it seems extremely buggy. Just trying to find a good media player.
• 771[06:42:20] <TomG2> i've heard complaints about linux library music players too
• 772[06:42:38] <TomG2> in fact it doesn't seem like there's a really excellent one. maybe try VLC
• 773[06:42:50] <zeeble> Yep, Clementine can show the cover art. But for a music manager + music player, it does suck a lot of resources.
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• 781[06:50:32] <foul_owl> Thanks! I'll take a look at that one
• 782[06:51:01] <foul_owl> Rhyhtmbox is cool also, but it segfaults fairly often (could be the cover art plugin)
• 783[06:52:57] <foul_owl> Maybe I'll wait for stretch
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• 787[06:54:23] <alyssa> foul_owl: probably the plugin. Rhythmbox has never crashed for me as far as I can remember
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• 909[08:08:07] <Cork> that seams excessively weird to me
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• 1014[09:00:01] <sllide> so i want to keep all my gnome packages when i apt uninstall firefox*
• 1015[09:00:06] <sllide> they are all set to manual installed
• 1016[09:00:11] <sllide> but apt still wants to remove them
• 1017[09:00:16] <sllide> how can i prevent this?
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• 1027[09:07:27] <_KaszpiR_> ap hold
• 1028[09:07:30] <_KaszpiR_> *apt hold
• 1029[09:09:30] <sllide> ah thanks!
• 1030[09:10:30] <dionysus69> i want to uninstall firefox-esr and it tells me these packages are no longer required replaced-url
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• 1032[09:10:44] <dionysus69> I wont make gnome unbootable right if I remove these too?
• 1033[09:12:07] <sllide> _KaszpiR_, when holding the gnome packages i cant remove it because of unmet dependencies
• 1034[09:12:19] <sllide> its weird that apt-set manual doesnt keep them
• 1035[09:12:50] <sllide> dionysus69, i dont think that will keep your system alive heh
• 1036[09:12:54] <sllide> lots of libraries
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• 1038[09:13:15] <dionysus69> hmm
• 1039[09:13:24] <dionysus69> so I guess I ll have to manually mark them for installation
• 1040[09:13:26] <sllide> sudo apt-mark manual gnome-mime-data libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libglade2-0 libgnome-2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra liborbit-2-0
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• 1042[09:13:58] <sllide> i am currently having the problem of apt not keeping the packages i marked
• 1043[09:14:01] <sllide> while uninstalling firefox
• 1044[09:14:35] <dionysus69> I just did apt-get install those which marked them as manual
• 1045[09:14:47] <dionysus69> I didnt even know there was a separate command for that
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• 1047[09:15:02] <sllide> oh yeah that works too
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• 1055[09:23:52] <funabashi> anyone know how i can do so a user only can see his own home dir and nothing else with sftp?
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• 1062[09:29:13] <jolt> funabashi: You can search for info on chroot ssh
• 1063[09:29:36] <jolt> funabashi: basically you add a user (or group) to a match config in sshd and sets som parameteters for sftp-server.
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• 1074[09:35:33] <funabashi> jolt: do maybe can recommend any guide for this?
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• 1079[09:38:18] <ToyKeeper> Woot, it's fairly easy to limit chrome's memory use via cgroups. :)
• 1080[09:38:25] <jolt> funabashi: replaced-url
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• 1088[09:41:32] <dionysus69> firefox.desktop contains line icon = firefox
• 1089[09:41:37] <dionysus69> where is this firefox icon located
• 1090[09:41:38] <dionysus69> ?
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• 1104[09:43:51] <jolt> replaced-url
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• 1106[09:44:06] <jolt> but it's not a gui thing
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• 1115[09:47:36] <jolt> funabashi: This one was also pretty spot on replaced-url
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• 1143[09:59:47] <funabashi> jolt: confirmed that one works, thanks
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• 1176[10:20:16] <talin> hello. is there a safe way of upgrading gcc in jessie to a more recent version than 4.9?
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• 1178[10:21:35] <babilen> talin: Not easily .. You might want to upgrade to stretch which is expected to be released in a week or two
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• 1183[10:22:07] <funabashi> jolt: u know how i can do so the user gets direct to to the chrooted folder
• 1184[10:24:47] <funabashi> ChrootDirectory /home/test/home/test/
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• 1186[10:24:57] <funabashi> gets an error when i login
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• 1191[10:26:39] <talin> babilen: hmm, that is a good idea
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• 1194[10:27:21] <jolt> funabashi: Make sure the permissions are ok on the dirs above. Check your daemon.log for sshd error messages
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• 1196[10:28:02] <babilen> talin: At this point I just don't see the point of doing work only to get the software you'd use in stretch anyway
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• 1198[10:28:28] <jolt> funabashi: For example, I use ChrootDirectory /data/replaced-url
• 1199[10:28:31] <talin> babilen: right. i would love to start using stretch already... and now at the end of a release, things are getting very old
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• 1202[10:29:18] <babilen> That's the nature of things
• 1203[10:29:38] <babilen> dpkg: jessie->stretch
• 1204[10:29:38] <dpkg> Remember that Debian 9 "Stretch" is still pre-release and that security support will not always be timely. Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <stretch release notes> replaced-url
• 1205[10:29:52] <babilen> talin: ^ please refer to the release notes
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• 1228[10:41:01] <pragomer> any idea how I could force googlechrome always to open in incognito mode? I know I can edit the desktop-file in /usr/share/applications/ but this would only force it when I use the starter
• 1229[10:41:17] <pragomer> not when e.g. a html-file is opened from dolphin or mail app
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• 1291[11:14:40] <Iridos> pragomer, what would be the benefit of that?
• 1292[11:14:46] <Iridos> and debian has chromium
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• 1294[11:15:37] <Iridos> and just make a wrapper that calls chromium --incognito and is called chromium-incognito and configure applications to use that instead
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• 1303[11:19:14] <lendo> pragomer: encrypt /porn instead
• 1304[11:19:52] <pragomer> lendo: *LOL*
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• 1318[11:24:27] <Iridos> lendo, good point ^^
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• 1345[11:44:02] <leszek> hi I tried compiling chromium 59 with gcc 4.8.4 and libc6 2.19. I get this error when compiling the internal protobuf: replaced-url
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• 1347[11:44:30] <leszek> any help would be great
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• 1353[11:46:24] <Sir_Designer> tried adding that flag?
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• 1362[11:50:31] <leszek> Sir_Designer: I thought it was added already. I added it but got the same result
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• 1365[11:51:41] <lendo> also... stretch is out soon, with chromium 59
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• 1367[11:52:53] <leszek> lendo: yep I know. I want to have it for my older base here
• 1368[11:53:03] <lendo> ok..
• 1369[11:53:57] <leszek> I am just wondering why it does complain now. Chromium 57 for example (and the protobuf code did not change in years in the source tree of chromium) compiled just fine
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• 1414[12:22:37] <kabo_> Hi, quick question regarding bridge interface and routes.
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• 1416[12:22:43] <kabo_> I've looked at the guide here replaced-url
• 1417[12:22:49] <kabo_> but when I restart networking and run "ip route", there are two entries for my local network, one for eth0 and one for br0. Consequently I can't ping anything on my network unless I explicitly specify ping to use the br0-interface (ping -I br0).
• 1418[12:22:56] <kabo_> How do I get rid of that faulty route for eth0?
• 1419[12:23:12] <kabo_> using debian stretch
• 1420[12:24:24] <xand> ip route delete
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• 1422[12:24:53] <petn-randall> kabo_: Can you show us your relevant config and the output of 'ip route'? → replaced-url
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• 1425[12:25:23] <xand> e.g. ip route delete 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0
• 1426[12:25:36] <xand> but you should check that eth0 doesn't still have an IP address assigned.
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• 1431[12:28:26] <kabo_> petn-randall: replaced-url
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• 1433[12:29:20] <kabo_> xand: ip route delete works great
• 1434[12:29:26] <kabo_> how do I make it permanent?
• 1435[12:29:46] <xand> kabo_: it won't come back unless an IP address appears on eth0 directly
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• 1437[12:30:12] <kabo_> hmm, enp0s25 does seem to have an IP address, the same as br0
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• 1440[12:30:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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• 1442[12:31:24] <kabo_> xand: any ideas on how to stop enp0s25 from getting an IP address please?
• 1443[12:31:43] <xand> so it's not eth0?
• 1444[12:31:50] <petn-randall> kabo_: Can you show us the output of 'ip addr' and 'ip route'?
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• 1446[12:32:14] <kabo_> xand: yeah, I typed eth0 out of habit here in IRC :)
• 1447[12:32:37] <xand> right, depends on if you have NetworkManager, and what is in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
• 1448[12:33:28] <kabo_> petn-randall: is there a way to pipe the output of those commands to paste.debian.org?
• 1449[12:33:37] <petn-randall> kabo_: sure
• 1450[12:33:38] <petn-randall> !pastebinit
• 1451[12:33:39] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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• 1453[12:33:50] <kabo_> xand: I just installed debian stretch, no desktop manager, just cli
• 1454[12:34:13] <kabo_> petn-randall: thanks :)
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• 1456[12:34:44] <rephlexie> is 'auto lo br0' missing an interface? ie. 'auto lo enp0s25 br0' etc etc
• 1457[12:35:25] <kabo_> petn-randall: replaced-url
• 1458[12:35:43] <kabo_> petn-randall: replaced-url
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• 1460[12:36:27] <kabo_> rephlexie: I tried both variants, didn't seem to help
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• 1462[12:36:50] <petn-randall> kabo_: Looks like you still had enp0s25 configured for DHCP before the changes. Rebooting should fix the issue.
• 1463[12:37:59] <kabo_> petn-randall: ah, ok, I'll try that :)
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• 1465[12:38:10] <kabo_> standard solution :)
• 1466[12:38:47] <teraflop> kabo_: aka itcrowd approach
• 1467[12:39:12] <petn-randall> kabo_: The cleaner solution would have been to 'ifdown enp0s25', then make the changes. But to go without rebooting would mean to revert the changes, issue that command, then put those changes back again. Probably too much work.
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• 1482[12:45:18] <kabo_> reboot worked, thanks :)
• 1483[12:45:44] <petn-randall> kabo_: You're welcome! :)
• 1484[12:45:47] <kabo_> I'll have to remember to ifdown whenever making changes to network interfaces in the future
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• 1486[12:46:26] <teraflop> or just ip link set interface down/up
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• 1491[12:46:56] <dokma> My Debian box which is my main workhorse started freezing and rebooting. I'm trying to fish out if it's soft or hard related.
• 1492[12:47:12] <dokma> I suspect if there is nothing in the syslog it should be hard related?
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• 1496[12:47:40] <dokma> It's happening even if I am not working on the box.
• 1497[12:48:04] <FreeBeastie> you know after you check the logs
• 1498[12:48:08] <dokma> I'm in console now to possibly rule out issues with the graphics card.
• 1499[12:48:23] <dokma> I've sifted through the logs and there's nothing at all...
• 1500[12:48:42] <dokma> syslog apache mysql openvpn asterisk show nothing
• 1501[12:48:55] <FreeBeastie> look for cpu
• 1502[12:49:14] <FreeBeastie> i had stalls with hybrid
• 1503[12:49:25] <FreeBeastie> gpu
• 1504[12:49:46] <teraflop> dokma: also logic to the rescue: did you install something before the issues started? e.g new kernel? did you add new hw? what about logs, there's more than syslog
• 1505[12:49:48] <dokma> hybrid == mixing packages?
• 1506[12:50:11] <FreeBeastie> hybrid gpu nvidia and intel haswell inbuilt
• 1507[12:50:14] <dokma> there was absolutely no major changes on the system for a very long time
• 1508[12:50:19] <teraflop> jessie?
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• 1511[12:50:44] <dokma> I have same mix... GTX650 and E8500
• 1512[12:50:50] <dokma> jessie
• 1513[12:50:58] <FreeBeastie> thats the problem
• 1514[12:51:00] <dokma> with a few packages from testing
• 1515[12:51:13] <dokma> I've had this card for about a year now...
• 1516[12:51:16] <FreeBeastie> install bumblebee did help me
• 1517[12:51:24] <teraflop> dokma: then start checking your ram, and so on…
• 1518[12:51:26] <dokma> let me see what that is...
• 1519[12:51:34] <leszek> so no one else an idea about my chromium compile issue ?
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• 1521[12:51:57] <dokma> FreeBeastie: you got any idea why it would start freezing now?
• 1522[12:52:01] <dokma> was there a driver update
• 1523[12:52:13] <FreeBeastie> if i have installation i did freeze after some minutes
• 1524[12:52:25] <FreeBeastie> yes a driver update can change it all
• 1525[12:52:49] <FreeBeastie> i have to be hurry and install bumblebee or before use x
• 1526[12:52:57] <FreeBeastie> its only with x a problem
• 1527[12:53:02] <dokma> I'm not on a laptop though
• 1528[12:53:24] <dokma> I'll leave my machine in console mode for the day to see if it happens...
• 1529[12:53:39] <dokma> If not then I might focus on GPU issues
• 1530[12:53:54] <dokma> My box is about 10ish years old though
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• 1532[12:54:02] <irfan> ji
• 1533[12:54:04] <dokma> So hardware issues are likely
• 1534[12:54:16] <irfan> no
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• 1536[12:55:29] <dokma> Anyone knows how to check temperature sensors from command line?
• 1537[12:55:32] <FreeBeastie> the hd could be or the ram
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• 1540[12:56:19] <dokma> I think I have ram checker installed...
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• 1542[12:56:26] <dokma> have to reboot ... see you soon
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• 1560[13:07:33] <markand> sad that there is no vera++ 1.3 in debian stretch :(
• 1561[13:07:37] <markand> has been released a while ago though
• 1562[13:07:50] <markand> is there a chance I can request someone to upgrade before stretch is released?
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• 1569[13:10:35] <julius> hi
• 1570[13:10:43] <julius> my dnsmasq wont start after the last update
• 1571[13:11:00] <julius> it says: dnsmasq: junk found in command line (systemctl status dnsmasq.service
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• 1573[13:11:31] <julius> good for me that he tells me that its not working and also doesnt mention what bad command line arguments where there....i would be lost otherwise.
• 1574[13:11:43] <julius> why cant these error reporting things spit out some usefull info?
• 1575[13:12:07] <AN0NYM> junk found in command line?
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• 1578[13:12:40] <AN0NYM> do a "sudo find / -name dnsmasq.service" (debian jessie) and open these files to check if there's a typo or something else ?
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• 1588[13:15:16] <julius> one second
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• 1593[13:16:29] <julius> i purged the program and move dnsmasq.conf and dnsmasq.d before...changing some things in dnsmasq.conf and im fine again
• 1594[13:16:30] <AN0NYM> are you using dnsmasq from the standard repos?
• 1595[13:16:36] <julius> yes
• 1596[13:16:54] <AN0NYM> ok, main thing it works again
• 1597[13:16:56] <julius> maybe i forgot to look at the output of apt upgrade and just rebooted the system
• 1598[13:17:08] <AN0NYM> could be ^^
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• 1603[13:18:34] <julius> you know a command that shows when the last dnsmasq upddate was?
• 1604[13:18:52] <julius> i mean its in apt.history or something like that in /var
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• 1607[13:20:20] <teraflop> julius: journalctl -u dnsmasq -f ?
• 1608[13:20:42] <teraflop> ah you mean the package?
• 1609[13:21:31] <teraflop> /var/log/dpkg.log
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• 1615[13:24:05] <dokma> memtest found no errors but visual inspection found one bulging capacitor right next to the GPU
• 1616[13:24:06] <julius> teraflop: same shit backup dnsmasq[3151]: dnsmasq: junk found in command line
• 1617[13:24:11] <julius> not information
• 1618[13:24:22] <dokma> It might explain why it's stable in console mode but freezes under X
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• 1620[13:24:38] <dokma> I really hope this will be a few pennies fix...
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• 1622[13:25:39] <dokma> I'm shutting down, disassembling and heading to electronics store to get the replacements...
• 1623[13:25:49] <dokma> See yall
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• 1625[13:26:14] <julius> teraflop: its not in the last dokg.log file..... a command that uncompresses the old ones to a temporary directory, searches them and returns the results would be nice
• 1626[13:27:07] <teraflop> zcat and grep for it?
• 1627[13:27:22] <teraflop> whatever floats your goat
• 1628[13:27:49] <teraflop> julius: anyway if you want to know when dnsmasq package was updated via package manager dpkg logs is what you want
• 1629[13:28:45] <jelly> zgrep is a thing that exists
• 1630[13:29:03] <teraflop> yeah that goat sounds fine too
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• 1745[14:38:44] <talin> in alsa docs, they call them snd-emu10k1, for example. but what are my cards called?
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• 1751[14:42:24] <BluesKaj> talin, which chip is shown i the top right in alsamixer?
• 1752[14:42:40] <Thraul> Hi guys, I am looking for some advise of help on "Creating a deb package from source" I have been googling and everything I have found has been half written, some say use dh_make, others say use pbuilder, some say use chroot..but what if I am building an X11 app? If a virtual machine better. I want to do this as a learning experience so in the future I may be able to update packages to newer versions or patch packages. Any help on where
• 1753[14:42:40] <Thraul> best to start would be appreciated.
• 1754[14:42:41] <julius> hi
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• 1756[14:43:11] <julius> how can i tell my debian to keep its fingers off /etc/resolf.conf?
• 1757[14:43:23] <talin> BluesKaj: the wrong one, intel haswell hdmi
• 1758[14:43:41] <julius> usually it works all fine, but now i need to use a cable and network-manager keeps resetting resolv.conf for whatever reason
• 1759[14:43:51] <talin> BluesKaj: it should be the realtek acl3226 which is card1, device0
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• 1761[14:44:06] <talin> BluesKaj: so i can alsaplayer -d 0,1 with it and it works
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• 1765[14:45:44] <BluesKaj> talin, F6 in alsamixer, choose your right card there then reload alsamixer
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• 1772[14:50:18] <talin> BluesKaj: yes, but other programs won't use it
• 1773[14:50:36] <BluesKaj> julius, NM overwrites resolv.conf by default at boot , if you have dns nameservers add them to /etc/network/interfaces
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• 1775[14:51:09] <BluesKaj> talin, which programs?
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• 1778[14:52:32] <BluesKaj> talin, you probly have to set pulseaudio/pavucontrol to the same card and audio out
• 1779[14:53:28] <talin> BluesKaj: it seems i can set card 1 in /etc/asound.conf
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• 1781[14:54:27] <BluesKaj> hmm, i don't have that file on stretch
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• 1783[14:54:42] <talin> BluesKaj: it wasn't there, but i created it
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• 1787[14:55:14] <_abc_> Hello. Can someone please say where this debian wiki page went? It is bookmarked by me, so it used to exist. Moved? replaced-url
• 1788[14:55:46] <_abc_> replaced-url
• 1789[14:55:57] <BluesKaj> well if it's not there, then it doesn't exist for a reason, talin
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• 1791[14:57:53] <BluesKaj> anyway bbl
• 1792[14:57:54] <ForceRecon> are there any antivirus program for debian free? I need to scan a file that I received and want to use my linux machine
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• 1795[14:58:06] <_abc_> clamav
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• 1815[15:08:20] <p3rror> Hello
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• 1817[15:08:50] <p3rror> I have an issue with the root file system
• 1818[15:08:51] <p3rror> here is the ouput of df -hP replaced-url
• 1819[15:09:02] <p3rror> how to remount the / without impact
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• 1826[15:10:06] <jelly> p3rror: what's the issue?
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• 1828[15:10:38] <jelly> !ask
• 1829[15:10:38] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
• 1830[15:10:38] <p3rror> I had a problem with my patition table
• 1831[15:10:39] <dionysus69> I am creating img disk image using disks utility, can I restore it to some disk without using disk utility? if yes how?
• 1832[15:11:00] <p3rror> so I did a cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
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• 1834[15:11:18] <p3rror> and after a mount -a command, I found my self with two root file system
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• 1837[15:11:30] <p3rror> one mounted from the vg00 and other is a rootfs
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• 1840[15:12:05] <jelly> p3rror: that's normal in recent release, a consequence of how root filesystem gets mounted during the boot process
• 1841[15:12:44] <p3rror> So How to return back to native status of partitions without reboot
• 1842[15:12:47] <jelly> later versions of df _hide_ one of those mountpoints, but they remain in /proc/mounts
• 1843[15:12:52] <p3rror> as I'm on a production machine
• 1844[15:12:59] <jelly> p3rror: you don't, and it doesn't matter
• 1845[15:13:25] <jelly> it's a purely cosmetic issue
• 1846[15:13:37] <p3rror> Also, it matter as the rootfs size is pretty small and the system raise a cpacity incident : full /
• 1847[15:13:45] <p3rror> Also, it matter as the rootfs size is pretty small and the system raise a capacity incident : full /
• 1848[15:14:03] <ForceRecon> is there any way to change the color of the textt on the icons on the desktop
• 1849[15:14:20] <jelly> what does "system raise a capacity incident : full /" mean, in terms of "I ran this command: ____ and it give this full output ____"
• 1850[15:14:35] <ForceRecon> it is black at the moment and hard to read on blue background
• 1851[15:14:50] <jelly> p3rror: if it's a GUI dialog or something, provide a screenshot
• 1852[15:15:34] <jelly> also,
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• 1854[15:15:38] <jelly> !localized errors
• 1855[15:15:38] <dpkg> To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
• 1856[15:15:57] <p3rror> jelly: replaced-url
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• 1860[15:17:29] <jelly> p3rror: that's the same thing as before. Where's the command you ran and its complete output, including the error message
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• 1865[15:18:54] <p3rror> jelly: The question is how to umount the rootfs
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• 1875[15:23:49] <xmj> moin
• 1876[15:24:11] <xmj> is there a way to get access to a source file used in building a debian package? upstream seems (currently) down
• 1877[15:24:47] <TomG2> dpkg, source packages?
• 1878[15:24:48] <dpkg> wish i knew, TomG2
• 1879[15:25:02] <TomG2> dpkg, source
• 1880[15:25:02] <dpkg> As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package>
• 1881[15:25:27] <xmj> TomG2: through a webinterface, per chance? i'm using freebsd and would like to package that thing for us
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• 1883[15:26:31] <TomG2> replaced-url
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• 1885[15:26:41] <jelly> p3rror: you don't have to umount it. "cosmetic issue" means it's not a bug or a problem in any way, just how something is displayed
• 1886[15:27:44] <TomG2> oh, the package upstream
• 1887[15:28:10] <xmj> ah.. they're not actually down, the ftp link they provide on their site is... github... eh
• 1888[15:28:13] <xmj> TomG2: thanks!
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• 1890[15:28:45] <TomG2> yw
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• 1893[15:29:48] <jelly> xmj: which piece of software are you talking about
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• 1898[15:30:47] <jelly> sometimes debian has to make their own "source" tarballs when upstream only has a VCS repo
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• 1901[15:32:16] <xmj> python-memcache(d)
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• 1903[15:32:50] <xmj> replaced-url
• 1904[15:33:27] <xmj> i clicked my way through the homepage and the ftp directing to their ftp is down
• 1905[15:33:39] <xmj> but, yes, *that* page lists the source package itself. :-)
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• 1960[15:59:00] <dokma> I replaced that bulging capacitor... let's see if the machine holds still now...
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• 1973[16:03:44] <nix64bit> dokma: i like that you work on that level
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• 1990[16:11:10] <dokma> well... few penies vs couple hundred quid should be a no brainer...
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• 1992[16:11:34] <dokma> 1 hour total work with shopping included.
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• 2019[16:23:53] <hammer065> For some reason cron changed its default PATH since the 17th of May
• 2020[16:24:00] <hammer065> Is there any reason why..?
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• 2024[16:25:01] <hammer065> I mean I'm not used to BREAKING changes under Debian
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• 2026[16:27:50] <petn-randall> hammer065: cron never set PATH ever since I at least lenny, maybe even earlier.
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• 2031[16:29:18] <petn-randall> hammer065: And I'd be suprised that change happened recently because the cron package hasn't seen an update since May 2015.
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• 2034[16:30:01] <petn-randall> hammer065: current changelog: replaced-url
• 2035[16:30:03] <greycat> crontab(5) says PATH is initialized to "/usr/bin:/bin"
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• 2039[16:33:43] <jelly> hammer065: which debian release? What does $PATH look like inside a cron job now? User cron job or something under /etc/cron* ?
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• 2047[16:37:30] <ForceRecon> would this be the correct way to add Tor to the menu? and if I do will I then be able to choose TOR as my default browser through terminal? - replaced-url
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• 2051[16:39:04] <greycat> If "the menu" means a menu of applications defined within something like GNOME, which uses *.desktop files, then your URL looks sound.
• 2052[16:39:32] <greycat> I still don't know what you mean by "default browser" or "through terminal".
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• 2057[16:40:32] <ForceRecon> from my reading there is a command to change your browser default through terminal. However, when I run it, since tor is not INSTALLED so to speak it is not an option so it tells you there is nothing to change.
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• 2059[16:40:59] <greycat> But you can't say what the command is.
• 2060[16:41:38] <ForceRecon> sudo update-alternatives --config x-replaced-url
• 2061[16:41:42] <greycat> Are you talking about the XDG stuff, or the debian alternatives stuff?
• 2062[16:42:13] <greycat> You're talking about debian alternatives. Are you *sure* that the debian alternatives constitute a "default browser" in whatever context you mean that term to apply?
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• 2064[16:42:30] <ForceRecon> not sure.. just reading and trying to utilize what i read.. doing that command does work but Tor is not an option.. still learning
• 2065[16:42:44] <greycat> This ain't Windows. There is no single, central, agreed-upon authority or definition for things like "default browser".
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• 2067[16:43:02] <ForceRecon> preffered application
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• 2069[16:43:10] <ForceRecon> sorry wrong terminology
• 2070[16:43:16] <greycat> What do you intend "default browser" to mean? Is there some specific *program* you're running that wants to open URLs?
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• 2073[16:43:49] <greycat> If it's a GNOME or KDE application, you almost certainly want the XDG stuff instead.
• 2074[16:44:00] <ForceRecon> yes, I want my preferred browser to be TOR so when I open links in IRC it uses TOR and not Firefox or Chrome
• 2075[16:44:07] <greycat> What IRC client?
• 2076[16:44:13] <ForceRecon> Quassel
• 2077[16:44:21] <greycat> *blink* .. that's a new one
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• 2079[16:45:09] <ForceRecon> ForceRecon: After you install Torbrowser, use the --register-app argument, it adds it to the system menu. #quassel just responded to me, they are not quick as you guys..
• 2080[16:45:15] <greycat> Well, anyway, if you created a *.desktop file, you can try setting it up as the XDG default-web-browser and see what happens.
• 2081[16:45:17] <ForceRecon> I love this client a lot..
• 2082[16:45:55] <greycat> xdg-settings get default-web-browser
• 2083[16:45:56] <ForceRecon> I will try all you are saying.. thanks so much for your assistance so far. I will figure it out with your help...
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• 2093[16:48:24] <tw> I wish xdg default applications supported protocol + partial address match -> particular program. For example, replaced-url
• 2094[16:48:30] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 2099[16:49:59] <greycat> (Which may or may not be accurate; it's a comment in an Ubuntu bug report, but anyway, that's the first place I found a reference to Quassel and default web browser.)
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• 2115[17:00:26] <waflessnet> o/
• 2116[17:00:40] <waflessnet> debian 8
• 2117[17:00:51] <greycat> !es
• 2118[17:00:51] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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• 2138[17:11:46] <aksis> i need to dynamically and persistently rename network interfaces...what are my options?
• 2139[17:12:16] <greycat> which Debian release? I know this is something that's changing in stretch, though I don't know the details
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• 2143[17:14:04] <aksis> greycat: jessie. right now, the only options i can see are 1) mess with my systemd.link files then udevadm reload and trigger, or 2) use ip link set x name y
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• 2145[17:14:16] <glick> hi any mutt users here
• 2146[17:14:21] <aksis> i looked at the mapping stanza in the interfaces file, but that doesn't seem to actually change the name, just make some kind of alias
• 2147[17:14:23] <glick> im trying to figure out how to send an email n drafts
• 2148[17:14:25] <glick> in
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• 2150[17:16:00] <jelly> mutt calls those "postponed mails", and when you press 'm' to create a new message, it asks whether you want to continue a message from there: Recall postponed message? ([yes]/no):
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• 2153[17:16:59] <greycat> aksis: there's also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
• 2154[17:17:28] <jelly> glick: after answering affirmative, it opens the postponed folder, just pick one of the messages in there and press enter on it
• 2155[17:17:44] <jelly> glick: also, there's a #mutt channel
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• 2157[17:18:37] <glick> ahh thanks
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• 2161[17:19:30] <jelly> (continued in #mutt)
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• 2163[17:19:38] <kl> Hello, I'm having troubles setting up A2DP, it's 2 hours I'm trying to fix it.... can someone help me?
• 2164[17:20:14] <kl> First of all I followed this replaced-url
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• 2167[17:20:53] <kl> I tried moc music on console player and clementine nothing works, I tried running alsamixer and pavucontrol but the keys don't work, or better*
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• 2169[17:21:15] <kl> * they actually change the volume in pavucontrol, but I don't hear any change in the real music volume being played
• 2170[17:21:33] <kl> Can someone help me?
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• 2172[17:22:20] <kl> damn, why has to be so hard to play some music in bluetooth headset?
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• 2175[17:23:44] <BluesKaj> kl, which keys don't work ?
• 2176[17:24:19] <kl> any key, nothing work. I've got Aftershokz headset, it has got a 3 buttons and no one of them works :(
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• 2178[17:25:09] <kl> Maybe I know the problem, the music is being played through Built-in analog stereo pavucontrol profile
• 2179[17:25:17] <BluesKaj> which keys in alsamixer?
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• 2182[17:26:15] <kl> I've got both built-in analog stereo profile and TREKZ titanium profile in pavucontrol output devices, the bluetooth keys actually change the TREKZ titanium profile volume, but the music is being played through built-in analog stereo and so maybe this is why I don't hear any change in the real music volume
• 2183[17:26:46] <kl> In alsamixer I've got only master
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• 2188[17:27:43] <BluesKaj> kl, F6 in alsamixer to choose your preferred soundcard the reload alsamixer
• 2189[17:27:55] <BluesKaj> the=then
• 2190[17:28:15] <Rubyist> I'm going to be moving the location in which I install my local node_modules, which was `/var/replaced-url
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• 2193[17:28:57] <kl> I'm checking
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• 2197[17:30:48] <kl> now bluetooth stopped working...
• 2198[17:30:52] <kl> I'm trying to fix
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• 2201[17:32:48] <BluesKaj> ki which audio chip ?
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• 2206[17:34:40] <kl> replaced-url
• 2207[17:35:13] <kl> see replaced-url
• 2208[17:35:37] <BluesKaj> do the arrow keys work ?
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• 2210[17:35:52] <BluesKaj> in alsamixer
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• 2212[17:36:16] <g0zzy> Is it possible to leave an item in the grub menu and yet have it disabled?
• 2213[17:36:18] <kl> Only my Desktop keyboard/mouse works, the bluetooth keys don't work
• 2214[17:36:39] <webuser5224> Can the Stretch RC downloads be verified like the regular ones?
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• 2217[17:37:43] <kl> BlueKaj also, I've just muted master because the Desktop stereo started suddently playing music(instead of headset) disturbing my neighbors ._.
• 2218[17:38:37] <kl> this is very strange by the way, I tested these headset first on Jolla Sailfish OS with unplayer app(openrepos), it worked flawlessy
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• 2220[17:38:53] <kl> Maybe is the problem clementine which is not configured to handle bluetooth keys?
• 2221[17:38:59] <BluesKaj> ki one thing at a time , use the up arrow key on your desktop KB to increase the master volume ctrl and the down arrow key to disable automute.
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• 2223[17:39:34] <kl> Master volume is now umuted and at 20
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• 2226[17:40:17] <BluesKaj> use MM to unmute any muted ctls, kl
• 2227[17:40:38] <BluesKaj> the M key rather
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• 2229[17:40:54] <greycat> "MM" is what the curses alsamixer displays on muted channels
• 2230[17:41:06] <BluesKaj> thebox should have 00 in it
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• 2232[17:41:18] <kl> yes it's unmuted now
• 2233[17:41:36] <BluesKaj> ok use up arrow key to increase the volume
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• 2235[17:42:03] <BluesKaj> use the < and> keys to navigate
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• 2237[17:43:51] <BluesKaj> kl, and make sure you use the down arrow key to disable automute
• 2238[17:44:10] <BluesKaj> on the far right
• 2239[17:44:15] <tw> g0zzy: see the lock directive in grub. You need to set password[s] as well.
• 2240[17:44:30] <xp_> What's the package name for tor browser?
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• 2247[17:47:43] <petn-randall> xp_: There's torbrowser-launcher. But also see bug #861744
• 2248[17:47:44] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 2249[17:47:58] <hedesis> Hi, I'm trying to use a ViewSonic 2220 touchscreen with a BeagleBone Black rev C. using Debian Jessie, I tried on Raspberry Pi and it worked just pluging, but in BeagleBone I'm having troubles.
• 2250[17:48:39] <hedesis> beaglebone debian dmesg: replaced-url
• 2251[17:48:50] <kl> BlueKaj replaced-url
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• 2253[17:49:08] <hedesis> raspberry pi raspbian dmesg: replaced-url
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• 2256[17:49:47] <g0zzy> tw: Thanks.
• 2257[17:50:17] <hedesis> On Beaglebone it detects the touchscreen because it starts xinput-calibrator, but it doesnt detect my finger click
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• 2260[17:50:50] <kl> nothing to do I guess I just have to give up, purge bluetooth a2dp and buy a working 2dp working device with a simpler a2dp configuration, I'm ashamed
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• 2266[17:52:06] <kl> I unmuted every single thing in alsamixer, I don't even hear sound through headset
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• 2269[17:52:48] <kl> I'm using Debian, XFCE, blueman, clementine and a pair of Bluetooth Aftershokz Trekz Titanium, anything described on the wiki is done to configure A2DP, and initially keys weren't working now I don't even hear sound
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• 2271[17:53:03] <kl> Can I use my headset on Debian?
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• 2273[17:53:42] <hammer065> Is there a way to globally change the path of programs executed by cron?
• 2274[17:53:51] <xp_> Is judd a bot? What can it do?
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• 2276[17:53:59] <greycat> /msg judd help
• 2277[17:54:02] <BluesKaj> ki now you have to set the pavucontrol in pulseaudio to the settings you want to use as well
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• 2279[17:54:17] <greycat> ... gah, that doesn't give a list of commands :(
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• 2281[17:54:43] <greycat> See also replaced-url
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• 2287[17:58:59] <hammer065> Wait I should say $PATH to make clear that I mean the variable and not the term path
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• 2290[17:59:22] <greycat> hammer065: man 5 crontab
• 2291[17:59:36] <xp_> Why are Debians versions named after Toy Story characters? What's up with that? :p
• 2292[17:59:37] <tw> hedesis: your error is probably related to the line that says "usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed". You can try to cat the touchscreen device to see if you're getting any data at all, but I suspect if it doesn't know the report structure, you won't get anything.
• 2293[17:59:51] <petn-randall> xp_: Tradition :)
• 2294[18:00:00] <greycat> One of the founders of Debian worked at Pixar.
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• 2301[18:00:38] <tw> usb reports define the data format from/to usb devices, probably, in this case, including geometry.
• 2302[18:01:00] <kl> Hello, I'm having troubles setting up A2DP, it's 2 hours I'm trying to fix it.... can someone help me? First of all I followed this replaced-url
• 2303[18:01:00] <kl> I don't hear any change in the real music volume being played Now I don't even hear sound Can someone help me? replaced-url
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• 2307[18:01:55] <hammer065> greycat: this doesn't answer the question
• 2308[18:01:55] <kl> please I'd like to listen to music with my desktop
• 2309[18:02:04] <hammer065> I need to change it _globally_
• 2310[18:02:12] <hammer065> Not for each user
• 2311[18:02:13] <greycat> hammer065: Oh, you wanted a literal answer. The literal answer is "yes".
• 2312[18:02:20] <Violinist> dood
• 2313[18:02:21] <greycat> ... what.
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• 2315[18:02:25] <Violinist> debian is not for music
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• 2317[18:02:47] <kl> .. well so what should I do to listen to some music using a computer?
• 2318[18:02:52] <Violinist> mac
• 2319[18:02:52] <greycat> "Globally" means for the entire crontab. Which is a file. That you edit. Which may be /etc/crontab, or a single user's crontab.
• 2320[18:03:05] <Violinist> ever heard of macintoch
• 2321[18:03:10] <teraflop> kl: you mean the built-in controls do not work under tty?
• 2322[18:03:22] <greycat> If you mean "I want to change the compiled-in default PATH in cron from /usr/bin:/bin to /something/evil for every user", then the literal answer is "Yes, you can recompile cron".
• 2323[18:03:32] <Violinist> do you play music in DOS?
• 2324[18:03:34] <petn-randall> Violinist: Your answer is not very helpful.
• 2325[18:03:58] <hammer065> With globally I mean so that it affects every crontab
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• 2327[18:03:59] <BluesKaj> kl, too many devices mucking up your sound ...
• 2328[18:04:00] <greycat> I play music on Debian all the time, just not through bluetooth.
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• 2330[18:04:30] <greycat> hammer065: you can patch and recompile cron. I do not advise doing this, but hey, there's your answer.
• 2331[18:04:31] <hammer065> Since apparently an update stripped some default paths away so some programs fail
• 2332[18:04:53] <greycat> hammer065: the default PATH is /usr/bin:/bin AS DOCUMENTED in crontab(5) as I told you an hour ago
• 2333[18:04:57] <kl> no comment if it's that I'm sure Windows can handle it without the need to spend a money for a useless piece of ..., Android works flawlessly with A2DP, Sailfish OS I played with it a lot flawlessly using a2dp, what's wrong here?
• 2334[18:05:09] <BluesKaj> it's bad enough dealing with pulseaudio then there's bluetooth
• 2335[18:05:17] <petn-randall> hammer065: Which update? There hasn't been one in over two years.
• 2336[18:05:18] <teraflop> bah
• 2337[18:05:35] <g0zzy> tw: i think i might just remove the Windows grub entry. I'm guessing it's a lot simpler. Would that be a case of getting rid of the prober?
• 2338[18:05:40] <kl> ok alsamixer and pulseaudio works fine(always for me), my problem is A2DP
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• 2340[18:06:17] <kl> no chance to fix this problem right?
• 2341[18:06:22] <hammer065> greycat: if you told that then I'm sorry, I might have over read it since I was ask for about an hour and didn't see a mention of my username since then
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• 2344[18:06:33] <teraflop> kl: did you read my question?
• 2345[18:06:34] <hammer065> petn-randall: for me it broke on the 17th of may
• 2346[18:06:37] <greycat> 10:30 greycat> crontab(5) says PATH is initialized to "/usr/bin:/bin"
• 2347[18:06:47] <BluesKaj> kl, why do you need blurtooth anyway?
• 2348[18:06:50] <petn-randall> hammer065: Which release/distro are you running?
• 2349[18:06:53] <greycat> hour and a half, shortly after I joined, in response to something petn-randall swaid
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• 2351[18:06:57] <BluesKaj> bluetooth even
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• 2355[18:07:14] <teraflop> BluesKaj: really, that's your question?
• 2356[18:07:15] <Violinist> im sorry but questions like why do u need ... anyway is retarded
• 2357[18:07:30] <Violinist> u might as well jus lay down and die
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• 2359[18:07:37] <Violinist> why live?
• 2360[18:07:48] <Violinist> theres no point
• 2361[18:07:55] <kl> Hello, I'm having troubles setting up A2DP, it's from 2pm I'm trying to fix it.... can someone help me? First of all I followed this replaced-url
• 2362[18:07:56] <kl> I don't hear any change in the real music volume being played Now I don't even hear sound Can someone help me? replaced-url
• 2363[18:07:57] <kl> "profile", and not through trekz titanium one
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• 2365[18:08:27] <hammer065> petn-randall: Debian Jessie
• 2366[18:08:28] <teraflop> holy crap
• 2367[18:08:28] <greycat> kl: stop spamming.
• 2368[18:09:02] <Violinist> however there is a catch
• 2369[18:09:05] <Violinist> debian is free
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• 2372[18:09:29] <petn-randall> hammer065: As I said, there hasn't been an update in two years. Can you show the contents of /var/log/apt/history.log?
• 2373[18:09:40] <petn-randall> hammer065: also the output of 'apt-cache policy cron' would help.
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• 2375[18:10:56] <kl> I'll insist on this, GNU/Linux(not speaking of Debian or any OS) can handle bluetooth, A2DP(and probably anything else) flawlessly, Unix in general can(demonstration Sailfish OS + unplayer), so I'm sure a Desktop with Debian should be able to play some music with bluetooth and with bluetooth headset media keys working
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• 2377[18:11:47] <hammer065> Yeah wait a bit, need to change networks...
• 2378[18:12:19] <petn-randall> hammer065: You can paste it to replaced-url
• 2379[18:12:21] <kl> teraflop what did you mean with bluetooth keys and tty?
• 2380[18:12:32] <BluesKaj> kl, get your alsamixer and pulseaudio settings straightened out first then your headphones should work
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• 2382[18:13:02] <hammer065> petn-randall: normally I'd have used termbin but yeah, I can use the Debian one too
• 2383[18:13:20] <kl> BluesKaj they worked initially, now I don't hear sound. Anyway, media keys never worked
• 2384[18:13:43] <kl> greycat sorry if I'm looking for a solution on debian channel
• 2385[18:13:53] <hammer065> Also i am not sure that an update broke it, but I noticed that since this date some crontabs definitions failed
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• 2387[18:14:14] <hammer065> Since it couldn't find some/the binary
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• 2389[18:15:35] <BluesKaj> kl, you're too busy complaining without following directions and telling us whetehr you applied the suggestions given...that's all I have to say...not repeating myself incessantly
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• 2395[18:17:46] <kl> I've done all you told me, unmuted each thing, increased volume, what else have you told me? I'm too busy trying to fix this problem, not complaining BlueKaj
• 2396[18:17:55] <petn-randall> hammer065: termbin works fine for me, too. You can also use the program 'pastebinit' if you can't easily copy/paste from the affected server.
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• 2401[18:18:57] <BluesKaj> kl, did you disable automute, that's important
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• 2404[18:20:19] <kl> BlueKaj you're telling me ruining importat features of an operating system, tell me how to do that thing and I'll do, hoping the I can revert the operation, and hoping to fix this problem
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• 2408[18:22:01] <BluesKaj> kl, disable automute in alsamixer , this atlest the 3rd time I've sugested this
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• 2411[18:23:04] <kl> <BluesKaj> I don't know how to do this, could you repeat please?
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• 2413[18:23:13] <hammer065> petn-randall Apparently it was not even an update
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• 2415[18:23:34] <hammer065> petn-randall /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz: replaced-url
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• 2418[18:24:22] <kl> It seems now clementine works with media play button but not with media volume up and media volume down!
• 2419[18:24:50] <hammer065> And cron runs at the version 3.0pl1-127+deb8u1
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• 2422[18:25:35] <hammer065> Which confuses me even more, since before that, the PATH must have included /sbin, which now it doesn't
• 2423[18:26:48] <BluesKaj> kl, F6 in alsamixer, choose your main soundcard, reload alsamixer then navigate to automute on the far right with the > arrow key and use the down arrow key to disable automute
• 2424[18:26:52] <greycat> Oldest system I checked was wheezy, and that also says "/usr/bin:/bin" in crontab(5).
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• 2426[18:27:14] <kl> Automute is disabled, BluesKaj
• 2427[18:27:52] <BluesKaj> ok in the console , sudo alsactl store
• 2428[18:28:06] <hammer065> Weird, since it definitely had this included, since applications from /sbin have been executed via a crontab
• 2429[18:28:09] <petn-randall> hammer065: You're not even running Debian, you're running Raspbian.
• 2430[18:28:11] <petn-randall> !raspbian
• 2431[18:28:11] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
• 2432[18:28:36] <hammer065> Which is basically Debian
• 2433[18:28:40] <kl> BlueKaj done
• 2434[18:28:41] <petn-randall> hammer065: Ask in their channel if there was a change. ^^^
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• 2437[18:28:47] <petn-randall> !based on debian
• 2438[18:28:47] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
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• 2440[18:29:40] <hammer065> kthx.
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• 2444[18:31:45] <kl> BluesKaj I've done sudo alsactl store
• 2445[18:31:52] <hammer065> Also the link "Add short URL" on paste.debian.org is broken
• 2446[18:31:59] <BluesKaj> kiltzman, now setup pavucontrol to use the same card and aufio outs as you set i alsamixer
• 2447[18:32:33] <BluesKaj> sorry kiltzman , that was meant for kl ^
• 2448[18:32:55] <BluesKaj> audio outs that is
• 2449[18:33:24] <kl> how BluesKaj ?
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• 2452[18:34:07] <BluesKaj> kl, install pavucontrol
• 2453[18:34:37] <kl> BluesKaj pavucontrol is installed and I'm currently using it, pavucontrol => configuration => built-in audio => profile: analog stereo duples to analog stereo output maybe?
• 2454[18:34:44] <Buddhie> can i use d-crypt, cryptsetup >?
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• 2457[18:34:54] <Buddhie> dm-crypt
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• 2466[18:37:27] <kl> BluesKaj pavucontrol is installed and I'm currently using it, pavucontrol => configuration => built-in audio => profile: analog stereo duples to analog stereo output maybe?
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• 2469[18:38:23] <BluesKaj> kl, what other choices are there?
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• 2474[18:39:20] <jelly> kl: that usually doesn't make a lot of difference, you can try both and see
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• 2478[18:40:17] <kl> BluesKaj there are a lot of them, one moment
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• 2480[18:40:39] <kl> jelly neither of them change anything
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• 2486[18:40:53] <BluesKaj> idon't bother with pulseaudio since the snd-hda-intel driver works fine directly with alsa
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• 2490[18:42:00] <BluesKaj> and I stopped using FF since it started requiring pulse for webaudio
• 2491[18:42:23] <BluesKaj> chrome works well
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• 2494[18:42:45] <kl> Any tip to fix this problem?
• 2495[18:42:59] <jelly> I don't bother with alsa since pa works well enough for me :-|
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• 2497[18:43:30] <BluesKaj> kl, sudo modprobe sndhda-intel, just in case the driver unloaded
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• 2500[18:44:13] <BluesKaj> jelly, pulse needs alsa so you're using alsa whether you relaize it or not
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• 2502[18:44:55] <BluesKaj> kl, correction sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
• 2503[18:45:43] <kl> BluesKaj done
• 2504[18:45:55] <kl> BluesKaj done (sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel)
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• 2509[18:47:02] <BluesKaj> kl, try playing some music, just thru your speakers for now
• 2510[18:47:13] <kl> still anything, I only hear audio through desktop speakers, and only media key play work(neither media key volume up and down work)
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• 2512[18:47:24] <kl> BluesKaj I'm doing it
• 2513[18:47:55] <BluesKaj> media keys don't always work ...depends on the KB
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• 2515[18:48:20] <kl> HOLY COW I FIXED IT!
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• 2517[18:48:26] <kl> but only for 5 seconds
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• 2519[18:49:46] <BluesKaj> kl, now you have to find a tutorial for you blurtooth headset , that's up to you, i know nothing about BT./..perhaps others can help you there
• 2520[18:50:50] <kl> it's fixed there's no tutorial on my bluetooth headset they should work out of the box, now they work
• 2521[18:51:21] <kl> look replaced-url
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• 2523[18:51:31] <kl> that's was the problem
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• 2525[18:52:24] <kl> Now BluesKaj could you please help me returning to the previous alsamixer&pavucontrol settings
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• 2528[18:52:58] <kl> BluesKaj I mean, remove the things done by sudo amixer store, and by the suggested modprobe if necessary Thanks in advance
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• 2530[18:54:08] <jelly> kl: use alsamixer to tune the card, then run the store thing again
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• 2533[18:54:29] <kl> jelly I've never used that store command, what is it for?
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• 2535[18:54:33] <BluesKaj> the modprobe loads the audio driver
• 2536[18:54:35] <jelly> if it's too loud or too low or too muted right now
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• 2540[18:55:03] <kl> also I heard a damned beep when for example I delete the typed character in the irc type box, and there's no character
• 2541[18:55:15] <jelly> kl: I'm GUESSING it saved mixer settings somewhere permanently, and those get restored at reboot
• 2542[18:55:45] <BluesKaj> ki sudo alsactl store in the console
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• 2544[18:56:39] <kl> Ok so all I need to revert my system to the state it was before doing anything suggested on this channel is tune up alsamixer and then run sudo alsactl store?
• 2545[18:56:59] <BluesKaj> why?
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• 2547[18:57:49] <BluesKaj> nm, I'm done ...this is ridiculous
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• 2554[18:59:52] <kl> I don't see anything fun here, I want to know what I've done in the system, so if there's anything related to alsamixer which I don't understand, I'd rather choose to don't touch it. Also, if blue-tooth and blue-tooth keys know works flawlessly, those change are no longer required
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• 2561[19:04:03] <kl> By the way if anyone will have this problem again the solution was simple, replaced-url
• 2562[19:04:29] <kl> Bye all
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• 2589[19:14:33] <r7st> has anyone here used busybox's sendmail by chance?
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• 2628[19:27:05] <oh2eko> so i got Debian running on a Dell laptop but it refuses to ramp up from 624Mhz and laptop has a i5-2520 @2.5Ghz lscpu says cpu max 3.2Ghz
• 2629[19:27:19] <oh2eko> what in the noggins is going on?
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• 2636[19:28:45] <BluesKaj> it's probly running ondemand mostl likely and that's all that's needed atm
• 2637[19:28:48] <ChmEarl> oh2eko, on kernel cmdline, cpufreq=none (or performance)
• 2638[19:28:49] <TomG2> i don't know, what are you doing to scale up the cpu?
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• 2642[19:29:35] <oh2eko> currentlöy running a gnuradio flowgraph using all it can
• 2643[19:29:49] <oh2eko> so id assume the stepping shud ramp up as well
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• 2645[19:30:08] <BluesKaj> oh2eko, running a slower speed saves battery life
• 2646[19:30:35] <oh2eko> no battery even in laptop heh
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• 2655[19:33:02] <oh2eko> upgraded laptop as the ancient centrino just barley handled what i am doing now but this seems to be worse so i checked lscpu and yes even after the cpufreq commands stays the same
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• 2657[19:33:34] <oh2eko> hmm maybe the laptop itself has some sort of funky downstep because not original charger
• 2658[19:33:36] <BluesKaj> oh2eko, so you cpufrequtils installed
• 2659[19:33:41] <BluesKaj> have
• 2660[19:34:16] <oh2eko> installing now
• 2661[19:34:34] <oh2eko> ffs now Wlan died brb after i reboot it
• 2662[19:35:00] <jelly> oh2eko: pastebin the output of: "lsmod" and "grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/* | tr ':' '\t' | expand -t 66 | sort -t/ -k8,8"
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• 2664[19:35:13] <jelly> !paste
• 2665[19:35:13] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
• 2666[19:35:48] <oh2eko> rebooting laptop and joining from that in a moment
• 2667[19:36:12] <oh2eko> got old uuid 's so rebooting takes a while
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• 2677[19:38:50] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> jelly could you repost that command ?
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• 2680[19:42:01] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> lsmod paste replaced-url
• 2681[19:42:10] <humbot> this one ? 18:35 <jelly> oh2eko: pastebin the output of: "lsmod" and "grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/* | tr ':' '\t' | expand -t 66 | sort -t/ -k8,8"
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• 2683[19:42:22] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> yup
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• 2685[19:43:04] <Darby_Crash> hi guys. Can i make a launcher on my desktop for a binary that required dependencies from his folder?
• 2686[19:43:39] <jelly> oh2eko_sigint_sl: i5-2520M is sandybridge, optimal driver would be intel-pstate and that's built in
• 2687[19:43:46] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> grep whaddamanot paste replaced-url
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• 2689[19:44:32] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> well something aint right as hexchat and firefox already tapping out cpu
• 2690[19:44:51] <jelly> so get a gui tool to change from powersave governor to performance, or do it manually
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• 2694[19:45:31] <jelly> jessie kernel and xorg ought to be new enough for sandybridge cpu and gpu
• 2695[19:45:40] <Darby_Crash> replaced-url
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• 2697[19:45:55] <jelly> oh2eko_sigint_sl: maybe something's suboptimal in gpu driver department
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• 2699[19:46:07] <Darby_Crash> this is not working
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• 2701[19:46:42] <jelly> oh2eko_sigint_sl: as for the manual bit, echo performace | [sudo, if needed] tee -a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
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• 2715[19:52:22] <oh2eko> hmm well the manual part did not help
• 2716[19:54:28] <jer0me> has anyone experienced some weird "autoreboot" with thinkpads, where the machine would hard reboot itself while idling?
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• 2719[19:55:25] <jer0me> it seems to happen when I leave it idle for a while, maybe some p/c state
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• 2721[19:55:51] <oh2eko> my OLD thinkpad did that never figuerd out why thou
• 2722[19:56:11] <jer0me> oh2eko: old like an x220?
• 2723[19:56:14] <oh2eko> X200
• 2724[19:56:28] <mutante> yea, an X220 or 230 did that like once or twice, afair
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• 2726[19:56:50] <jer0me> this is weird.
• 2727[19:56:56] <oh2eko> once of the reasons i ressurected this Dell i5 thingity i am having a headache with
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• 2730[19:58:06] <oh2eko> i tought it was because i used it as a punching bag at times
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• 2736[20:01:05] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> well it seems i cant get this bloody thing to step up.. anyone wanna earn a bit by remoting in and figuring out why it stays at the 1990'ies of computing?
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• 2746[20:05:36] <webuser5224> Are the Stretch RC releases signed like the normal ones? Are they 'official' releases?
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• 2751[20:08:13] <TomG2> webuser5224, if i understand you right, yes, they are signed and "official"
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• 2758[20:09:06] <webuser5224> Is it better to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch or from Stretch RCX (e. g. 4) to Stretch later on?
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• 2761[20:09:33] <greycat> If you already have jessie, just upgrade to stretch. Don't download a new installer.
• 2762[20:09:52] <greycat> However, if you DON'T have debian yet, downloading the stretch release-candidate installer is fine.
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• 2764[20:10:02] <jhutchins> jer0me: Open it up and clean the cooling path well.
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• 2768[20:11:20] <greycat> There will be some differences between an upgraded-to-stretch and an installed-as-stretch system. The biggest one will be the names of ethernet interfaces.
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• 2770[20:11:23] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> Thanks for the brainstorming disabled C states and stepping bios and slaptop now handles the gnuradio flowgraph without even making any noticable cpu usage
• 2771[20:11:36] <oh2eko_sigint_sl> :)
• 2772[20:11:55] <jer0me> jhutchins: done already. It seems related to the battery actually. Which is new, which could explain why the problem appeared recently.
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• 2778[20:12:42] <jer0me> I like this little x220, it would be sad if the mobo/cpu were to die.
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• 2782[20:13:32] <oh2eko> my X200 refused to boot at times removed mobo battery for a while and it worked again another year
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• 2786[20:14:07] <oh2eko> oddly enuff it helped with the wier reboots as well so i suggest you try it
• 2787[20:14:13] <webuser5224> Ok, thanks
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• 2789[20:14:25] <jelly> oh2eko, fixed the typo in that manual part? disabling C states will eat into your battery life and temperature
• 2790[20:14:28] <jer0me> oh2eko: will try that, thanks.
• 2791[20:14:45] <oh2eko> jelly i have no battery
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• 2794[20:15:33] <oh2eko> the owner who tossed it in the trash once upon a time removed hardrive and battery and ram had harddrive and ram but no battery
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• 2796[20:16:07] * oh2eko ponders why the heck i even paied for the X200 lol
• 2797[20:16:25] <jer0me> nice laptop they are
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• 2799[20:16:32] <jer0me> +s
• 2800[20:17:01] <oh2eko> well they sure asf hold up against physical abuse
• 2801[20:17:32] <jer0me> nice keyboard and trackpad too.
• 2802[20:17:59] <jer0me> For the rest, they are just intel hardware and crappy screens mostly.
• 2803[20:18:03] <oh2eko> literally backed over my X200 with my Legnum once no damage aside from slight tiny bend on lower end of sreen part
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• 2806[20:18:20] <jer0me> mine has a nice IPS panel, with a lower than standard resolution though.
• 2807[20:18:32] <oh2eko> lost my "nipple" mouse on it so i took a busted slaptop from pile and fixed it
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• 2818[20:21:52] <oh2eko_> best part about the X200 was no need for nonfree drivers thou
• 2819[20:22:23] <TomG2> i'm envious of your X200 now
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• 2821[20:22:46] <oh2eko_> toss a hdd in it and its for sale cheap
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• 2823[20:23:14] <oh2eko_> as in covcer mail and toss a little on top
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• 2828[20:26:34] <oh2eko_> What would be awesome if one had a Debian based ECU
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• 2830[20:27:02] <tw> "ECU"? You're not talking about a realtime controller, are you?
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• 2833[20:27:27] <oh2eko_> realtime engine control unit
• 2834[20:27:36] <tw> Then no, it would not be awesome.
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• 2837[20:28:16] <tw> there are FOSS/GPL ECU projects. Linux is not appropriate for such systems.
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• 2839[20:28:24] <tw> (generally speaking)
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• 2841[20:28:34] <oh2eko_> with enough CPU power it wud be nice of course some parts would have to be more chip controlled but the part stearing them on debian it be awesome
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• 2843[20:29:29] <tw> Realtime control is not just about having enough CPU time, it's also about timing guarantees and trying to reduce the number of things that can possibly go wrong.
• 2844[20:30:11] <oh2eko_> that is true
• 2845[20:30:18] <jelly> a rtc kernel with a linux subsystem on the side might work
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• 2847[20:30:40] <tw> I'd rather have a 10kloc ECU that can talk to a linux kernel than a linux kernel that directly drives RT controls.
• 2848[20:31:04] * oh2eko_ beer is talking but the idea to combine Linux and my favorite car is just soo oomph
• 2849[20:31:27] <tw> Imagine if you had a device driver that softlocked and required a chip reset.
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• 2852[20:31:37] <tw> what do you do then?
• 2853[20:31:42] <oh2eko_> but a 97 car the ecu aint quite that advanced
• 2854[20:31:51] <oh2eko_> auch
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• 2866[20:34:58] <oh2eko_> for an ancient car like only option would probably be build a program to write new roms. anywhoms im off to enjoy the evening and Jelly thanks again for the brainstroming :)
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• 2884[20:43:03] <tw> jelly: it'd probably depend on the memory protection and division of resources in place. Right now I'm working with an A7/M4 SOC and one of the integration problems we have in development is one system touching registers it shouldn't touch and locking the other core. If the linux system is in ring0, bugs can do some pretty significant damage.
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• 2899[20:48:48] <jelly> tw, don't have shared memory, pass messages instead?
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• 2904[20:49:52] <jelly> except two separate computers are more expensive than 1.5 computers
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• 2913[20:54:12] <tw> Right, you need memory protection that can effectively protect critical resources on the RT side from outside breakage.
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• 2918[20:54:58] <tw> For example, if they share a peripheral bus, it needs iommu/access protection to prevent mangling.
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• 2925[20:56:51] <jandrusk> I'm running Debian Testing and unattended upgrades has not ran since 6/3/17 even though updates are available. Anyone else run into this?
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• 2956[21:07:23] <mns> sherab: whats wrong with the debian package for it ?
• 2957[21:07:24] <judd> Package: sbcl on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.57.0-2; jessie: 2:1.2.4-2; stretch: 2:1.3.14-2+b1; sid: 2:1.3.14-2+b1
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• 2998[21:23:56] <guavas> hi everyone. On a debian 8 computer a little after I start the system the wifi just stops working. ifconfig sees the wlan0, but doesn't connect, and I have to reboot it. any idea?
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• 3000[21:24:22] <kalipso> hey guys, when i do systemctl status bluetooth i get "failed" "Sap driver initialization failed" "sap-server: Operation not permitted"
• 3001[21:24:31] <kalipso> someone knows why?
• 3002[21:26:41] <mns> anyone know a CLI based speedtest for testing network speeds ?
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• 3005[21:27:33] <jelly> judd: info speedtest-cli
• 3006[21:27:34] <judd> Package speedtest-cli (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: Command line interface for testing internet bandwidth using speedtest.net. Version: 0.3.1-1; Size: 12.0k; Installed: 89k; Homepage: replaced-url
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• 3009[21:28:21] <jelly> mns: if you control both endpoints, iperf or iperf3
• 3010[21:28:43] <mns> jelly: thanks. no I don't control both endpoints.
• 3011[21:28:53] <jelly> then what bot said
• 3012[21:29:14] <mns> yup, just installed it.
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• 3021[21:33:00] <jhutchins> Can speedtet.net handle gigabit yet?
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• 3027[21:36:09] <jelly> jhutchins: it depends. my speedtest.net server is on a 2x10Gbps pipe.
• 3028[21:36:28] <jelly> and is not rate limited a lot
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• 3036[21:41:31] <jelly> so if your isp or a close upstream has added a server to their pool, chances are you'd be able to do an accurate test
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• 3039[21:41:57] <jelly> a server with similar bw
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• 3042[21:43:11] <jhutchins> 83M down, 118M up. Not quite what Google promised.
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• 3069[21:51:08] <jelly> jhutchins: Mbps or MBps? :-)
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• 3072[21:53:00] <jelly> switch at work limits my workstation to 500Mbps, and I get something like 557.93 / 322.06 Mbits/s with speedtest-cli
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• 3079[21:54:56] <jhutchins> Sez here Mbits
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• 3082[21:55:36] <jhutchins> Even the google test is down a bit with this old rig, my wife's newer system with ssd does a lot better.
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• 3086[21:56:09] <jhutchins> It got pretty close from Google's test, 800-900 down, 900+ up.
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• 3091[21:58:15] <jhutchins> Their test says 421Mb down, 933 up.
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• 3158[22:23:53] <cujotus> debian is greatest
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• 3166[22:26:37] <centrx> True
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• 3172[22:29:57] <Hoolootwo> false
• 3173[22:30:49] <cujotus> boolean
• 3174[22:31:01] <cujotus> :)
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• 3178[22:31:42] <cujotus> any1 interested linux / debian news site management?
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• 3247[22:40:50] <kalipso> cujotus: linux yes, debian no
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• 3280[22:53:50] <kalipso> blueman manager cant proceed because bluez-daemon is not running, anyone having an answer?
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• 3292[22:59:53] <diego021> maybe bluetooth service is down?
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