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17[00:08:00] <snooky> hi all
18[00:08:06] <snooky> is that cool? :)
19[00:08:07] <snooky> replaced-url
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32[00:18:08] <somiaj> snooky: stuff like that is better shared in #debian-offtopic
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35[00:22:06] <kill0rmachine> :)
36[00:22:38] <kill0rmachine> what did he say?
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38[00:23:14] <azy> how come palemoon is way faster than firefox? i switched back to firefox because i was getting 'your browser is out of date' warnings.
39[00:23:20] <azy> but it sucks
40[00:23:47] <dondelelcaro> azy: you could just change your useragent to stop those warnings
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44[00:24:03] <azy> some things didnt work too
45[00:24:09] <kill0rmachine> firefox has tons of debuging and benchmarking tools built in
46[00:24:19] <kill0rmachine> about:about
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53[00:26:11] <kill0rmachine> guess if you would change user-agent header in palemoon to something more common you would get less warnings
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61[00:30:39] <azy> the audio on some videos wouldnt work
62[00:30:44] <dondelelcaro> though given replaced-url
63[00:30:47] <azy> and some things broke on some sites
64[00:31:24] <azy> regular firefox-esr is so slow for me
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66[00:32:48] <kill0rmachine> hmm k, yeah firefox has by default lot stuff turned on u dont rly need, you could take a look on tor browser config, and copy some settings
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70[00:34:01] <kill0rmachine> ublock + umatrix is also very nise, umatrix is rly great but until u saved settings for sites u ofte brows its lil bit anoying
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76[00:36:12] <kill0rmachine> and maybe remove local config dir from firefox
77[00:36:26] <kill0rmachine> to get new fresh config
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79[00:37:11] <kill0rmachine> or try chrome, new version runs way better for me
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81[00:38:54] <kill0rmachine> replaced-url
82[00:39:33] <kill0rmachine> this avoids executing lot js, if configured properly
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85[00:40:42] <kill0rmachine> wish debian would have some firewall with umatrix like interface
86[00:41:09] <kill0rmachine> umatrix-iptables or so :D
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89[00:42:10] <somiaj> dondelelcaro: well that was an intersting read.
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94[00:43:00] <dondelelcaro> somiaj: yeah
95[00:43:15] <dondelelcaro> somiaj: I was wondering why palemoon wasn't packaged for Debian, and now I know.
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97[00:43:41] <kill0rmachine> if 3thpart sources are o.k you could try newer versions of firefox then debians repo version
98[00:43:52] <somiaj> dondelelcaro: not that we need another browser to provide security support for either.
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100[00:44:10] <somiaj> but yea, the end of that ends well, upstream dosen't want new users, so be it.
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203[01:58:50] <nbm> hi people, i installed tor browser via the debian backports and text inside add-ons are invisible, they won't show at all
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205[01:59:47] <nbm> no idea what's making this, also the theme looks different from default firefox-esr; it seems to be missing some Qt library or something I don't know?
206[02:01:04] <PatoFeo> Hi to all!
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208[02:01:12] <nbm> hi
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210[02:01:41] <jgkamat> I'm pretty sure firefox uses gtk and not qt
211[02:01:51] <PatoFeo> you can see the error log? or paste into pastebin?
212[02:02:52] <nbm> doesnt bring up any error
213[02:03:11] <nbm> i'll look more about it
214[02:03:27] <PatoFeo> and howto you know that be missing some qt libraries?
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223[02:10:05] <yellowman> Hi, I'm using Debian Snapshots to try and install this old package; I see there is some sort of hash to verify the package is intact, but I cannot figure out what hash type it is. MySQL 5 SHA1?
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349[03:55:24] <rooftopjoe> hi. i installed the QEMU package but it doesn't seem to add anything to my PATH even though this page suggests that it should
350[03:55:29] <rooftopjoe> replaced-url
351[03:55:57] <rooftopjoe> i don't know where everything is and /usr/share/qemu doesn't seem to have the executable i seek
352[03:57:49] <somiaj> there is no single binary called qemu, there is qemu-arch for different arches.
353[03:58:11] <somiaj> If you want a nice way to configure/control qemu vms, libvrit with virt-manager gives you a gui to use.
354[03:58:22] <somiaj> libvrit has virsh as a command line tool as well
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356[03:59:14] <rooftopjoe> yes, i found the binaries (qemu-system-*)
357[03:59:28] <rooftopjoe> but qemu-img still doesn't work even though qemu-utils is installed
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359[03:59:46] <somiaj> I really don't know how to use qemu directly, I've let libvirt do the heavy lifting for me
360[04:00:13] <rooftopjoe> nevermind, entirely different package
361[04:00:33] <rooftopjoe> qemu-backend-something
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366[04:03:41] <[DragOn]> I have something unbelievable happening :D
367[04:03:48] <somiaj> I don't belive it
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371[04:04:43] <[DragOn]> I have shutdown my webserver you know... and my request are redirected :D
372[04:04:55] <[DragOn]> the roaming :)
373[04:05:26] <[DragOn]> they play with me!
374[04:06:06] <somiaj> or your dns has fallback ips when one is down to use.
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376[04:07:26] <[DragOn]> no it doesn't use DNS atm
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380[04:08:55] <[DragOn]> the request goes supposedly to my webserver... but my webserver is shutdown
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382[04:09:27] <[DragOn]> and something answer a redirection to some page with JS code
383[04:09:48] <[DragOn]> very strange
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385[04:13:25] <[DragOn]> mwell now it works... maybe the caching did wrong...
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441[05:01:29] <HEX0> hello. what kernel version is debian stable on currently?
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452[05:06:34] <[DragOn]> 4.9 for stretch
453[05:07:00] <xormor> I use replaced-url
454[05:07:40] <[DragOn]> ofc freedom enable many possibilities
455[05:08:08] <[DragOn]> you can even hack it if u want
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457[05:09:55] <somiaj> HEX0: I would suggestion using the 4.9 kernel if at all possible. If your hardware needs a newer kernel, I think 4.15 is aviable in backports.
458[05:10:02] <adicarlo> [DragOn]: I agree, 4.9.0 very nice and solid, although missing some spectre etc fixes done since
459[05:10:17] <somiaj> adicarlo: debian has backported most of them.
460[05:10:28] <adicarlo> well some haven't been fixed in source yet
461[05:10:29] <somiaj> adicarlo: including all the retpoline fixes
462[05:10:39] <[DragOn]> spectre and meltdown are problematic only if you using new hardware
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464[05:10:48] <adicarlo> somiaj: but I'm with you -- I'm running both 4.9.0 and 4.15 (bpo) with no problems
465[05:11:11] <somiaj> [DragOn]: that is wrong, part of the problem with those bugs is they affect almost all intel hardware that is out there.
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467[05:11:18] <adicarlo> the lookahead and pipeline bugs, revealed in their principle, go back way into the early 90s, I'd guess
468[05:11:19] <[DragOn]> I have tried all POC around about it... it didn't trigger any cpu flaw
469[05:11:30] <[DragOn]> for my machines...
470[05:11:36] <HEX0> [DragOn]: somiaj thanks I just wanted to know for reference.
471[05:11:37] <adicarlo> i don't think all the 'sploits have been developed, either
472[05:11:42] <adicarlo> but anyhow, that's just my speculation
473[05:11:47] <adicarlo> i don't have code to prove it
474[05:12:08] <adicarlo> i made the mistake of upgrading to 4.16 and lost my audio! or rather, hdmi took over
475[05:12:12] <somiaj> spectre is hard to exploit and most known attack vectors have been dealt with, meltdown is now mitagated due to the kernel updates to better isolate the system memeory.
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477[05:12:32] <[DragOn]> also the actual spectre/meltdown mitigation adds 1k~ cycles more per hardware interrupt :D
478[05:12:44] <somiaj> spectre requires very very percise timming, and most fixes were just to ensure things like javascript don't have accurate enough timing.
479[05:13:00] <somiaj> and most won't notice the extra bit
480[05:13:47] <[DragOn]> old hardware is better noway...
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482[05:14:46] <somiaj> the debian 4.9 kernel is going to be the best choice in terms of security in debian. Also make sure your firwamre is updated, and if not the microcode from backports can help
483[05:15:10] <adicarlo> somiaj: thanks again for your help! obvious in retrospect heh...
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487[05:17:46] <[DragOn]> don't expect anything free drivers with machines done after 2008~
488[05:18:28] <[DragOn]> + they are vulnerables :D
489[05:18:46] <[DragOn]> and MEI and stuff improved ofc...
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494[05:24:39] <[DragOn]> The toppest computer, would a shiny computer very neat. A big manual that describes everything inside and what it does. A pre set partition with all the source code documented that permit to reproduce the entire system.
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496[05:24:47] <[DragOn]> would be*
497[05:24:58] <somiaj> [DragOn]: although maybe intersting to some, this is drifting quite a ways from debian support.
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502[05:26:59] <[DragOn]> somiaj: mmwell it's in thematic... we are computer enthusiasts and we likes coding after all
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505[05:29:01] <somiaj> sure, which makes it easy to drift off topic, and hence a friendly reminder can help to get us back to debian support.
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508[05:29:59] <[DragOn]> I'm very talkative I agree...
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764[09:34:58] <babilen> Why isn't it available if you run containers?
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795[09:44:17] <limbo_> My understanding from passthrough is that you need to decide on bootup.
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797[09:44:56] <limbo_> Since GPUs don't work right unless the're disconected from power to reset them.
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902[10:40:03] <xmbswc> does update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/awk awk /usr/local/bin/gawk 15 # look right
903[10:40:39] <xmbswc> or is it name=localgawk
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909[10:42:26] <xmbswc> worked, thanks
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937[11:03:43] <BenNZ> hi having trouble with the xfce4-power-manager-okugin , its using the highcontrast theme , but id like to use anything else , how do i manually change it or better yet use the icon theme im using
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959[11:19:36] <limbo_> BenNZ: any complaints on stdout/stderr?
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963[11:20:49] <BenNZ> oops i had posted in the wrong room , butt no there isnt any errors seems to use that as defaullt with no way of changing it
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971[11:24:55] <BenNZ> i think ive found a workaround
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1053[12:24:08] <toogley> localectl list-keymaps says "couldn't find any console keymaps" --> how can i install those? i haven't found anything useful in neither manuals nor other kind of documentation
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1055[12:24:28] <toogley> note: my system is armbian, but i guess the answer is the same
1056[12:27:16] <toogley> aah, interesting. i could just install the console-data package
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1058[12:27:44] <michael2> hi all. I just installed fresh debian and I noticed I can override grub config to boot into a root shell with the main partition mounted readonly - is it recommended to prevent this by password protecting grub?
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1060[12:28:30] <sleepyhead> michael2: use full disk encryption if you want protection from people with physical access to the machine. this only lets you delay a compromise not prevent it outright
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1063[12:30:26] <michael2> sleepyhead: you mean the grub password only delays? is full disc encryption hard to setup ?
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1066[12:31:39] <sleepyhead> michael2: i mean FDE is what you want not grub password. grub password does nothing for you.
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1068[12:32:13] <michael2> sleepyhead: roger that
1069[12:32:46] <sleepyhead> michael2: anyone with physical access can just boot off a live cd and bypass your grub password entirely. that's why you use full disk encryption so that even if they bypass grub they still can't read the data on the drive without the encryption password
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1073[12:35:56] <michael2> sleepyhead: I have so far just been using a separate partition running LUKS - so the main system files are not encrypted but my personal data is - is there any reason for me to have to upgrade to FDE? /etc/shadow is bcrypt hashed and my password is pretty secure
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1076[12:36:50] <sleepyhead> michael2: someone could place a script that runs at bootup on your root partition and compromise your system that way
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1079[12:37:31] <michael2> sleepyhead: like a modified sudo wrapper?
1080[12:38:00] <sleepyhead> michael2: yes or just a script in /etc/rc.local that monitors key strokes. also /tmp stores temporary files that could leak sensitive data
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1087[12:42:50] <michael2> sleepyhead: that would require them to have physical access though right? in that scenario I would at least have knowledge some one had the ability to tamper with the computer - unlike a software keylogger which i unwittingly installed
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1089[12:43:26] <sleepyhead> michael2: what is the attack vector you are worried about?
1090[12:43:36] <sleepyhead> michael2: you said grub so i assumed physical access
1091[12:44:08] <michael2> well the most likely is just someone steals my laptop
1092[12:45:13] <sleepyhead> michael2: like i said it's best to encrypt / too. now this bit "unlike a software keylogger" lead me to think you think FDE protects you from internet malware. it doesn't do that
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1095[12:46:03] <sleepyhead> michael2: when your comp is running the disks are decrypted so any internet malware that manages to sneak past your browser's defenses has as much file system access as any other program running on your system.
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1100[12:51:56] <fmorelsz> hi, I've identicals gpg-agent.conf and gpg.conf for a normal user aswell as root on my server. Problem is, whenever I logout the server, root cannot remember the passphrase of the key even if I let a very long timeout (1year), while normal user remembers it. why is root not reading my gpg-agent.conf?
1101[12:53:21] <michael2> sleepyhead: I understand. I just mentioned the keylogger software simply as an example of an undetectable threat - installing a /etc/rc.local keylogger via a live USB would require someone to have physical access to the laptop. in that case I would at least know the laptop was in their physical possession - but yeah there is a kind of endless things they can tamper with SSL certificates wifi passwords, so
1102[12:53:22] <michael2> FDE is really only long term solution...
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1109[12:57:01] <michael2> fmorelsz: the decrypted priv key is not stored in gpg-agent.conf - its stored in a daemon - usually GPG_AGENT env var points to that daemons location
1110[12:57:26] <michael2> how are you achieving root - via sudo?
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1113[13:00:15] <fmorelsz> michael2: I'm logging as root
1114[13:00:34] <dracc> I'm trying to build a project for Windows which uses threads. My friend who uses Arch can make it compile with mingw, but I can't. Any ideas what my next step might be in order to compile using mingw with threads support?
1115[13:01:19] <BCMM> dracc: it would probably be helpful to list the exact steps your friend took, and what precisely goes wrong when you do the same thing
1116[13:01:31] <michael2> fmorelsz: if you run `printenv | grep -i gpg' as regular user what do you get? is it same when you are root?
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1118[13:01:40] <fmorelsz> michael2: let me check
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1120[13:02:33] <Mysterytrain> ok, I'm about at my wits end here. I've been having a problem getting any linux distro to boot. d-i is running in UEFI mode, I created a fat32 efi partition, grub-install is working correctly (at least now), but every single time I reboot, a grub rescue prompt comes up. what else can I try. I'm absolutely out of ideas.
1121[13:03:05] <dracc> BCMM: `cmake ..` , make -j4, done.
1122[13:03:20] <fmorelsz> michael2: normal user returns "GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" while under root I get nothing
1123[13:03:26] <dracc> BCMM: CMake specifies -std=gnu++14, which should allow threading.
1124[13:03:29] <GNU\colossus> Mysterytrain, how many hard disks/potential boot devices does your box have?
1125[13:03:55] <Mysterytrain> one gpt disk and one mbr disk, the latter of which has no bootable flag set
1126[13:04:08] <michael2> fmorelsz: and you regular user currenlty can use the priv key?
1127[13:04:22] <fmorelsz> michael2: yes
1128[13:04:45] <dracc> BCMM: I get errors that std::thread::sleep_for() is not defined, same thing with std::this_thread
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1131[13:05:13] <michael2> fmorelsz: if you set the var undert th root account - can root access key then?
1132[13:05:19] <GNU\colossus> Mysterytrain, hmm - you should probably try to remove the second disk and see if the problem persist or changes. I remember debugging a similar boot problem for more than an hour, and it turns out the the firmware loaded a derelict grub installation on a disk I didn't know to have grub installed
1133[13:05:46] <GNU\colossus> (I know this is supposed not to happen with EFI, but the average BIOS/MBR CSM is totally unpredicable in my experience)
1134[13:05:51] <fmorelsz> michael2: normal user can use it and the passphrase is saved for a long time (don't need to type each time), while under root with same keys and config files, I can decrypt but it doesnt save the passphrase
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1136[13:05:55] <Mysterytrain> GNU\colossus: ok, I will give that a try. at this point, i'm about to try anything
1137[13:06:28] <Mysterytrain> very frustrating experience, here
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1139[13:07:40] <GNU\colossus> good luck :)
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1141[13:08:13] <michael2> fmorelsz: and did you run: GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0 ?
1142[13:08:48] <BCMM> dracc: gcc versions for you and your friend probably interesting
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1144[13:09:03] <BCMM> (sorry about that grammar)
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1147[13:09:23] <physkets> Hi!
1148[13:09:46] <physkets> Can I install on a machine that only has a Serial output?
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1151[13:10:21] <fmorelsz> michael2: let me check
1152[13:10:34] <dracc> BCMM: I use "i686-w64-mingw32-gcc (GCC) 7.3-win32 20180506", he uses something a little bit older.
1153[13:10:37] <BCMM> physkets: probably. depending on what sort of machine this is you may have to use a slightly weird method. more details?
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1155[13:11:06] <physkets> BCMM: replaced-url
1156[13:11:24] <physkets> I'm able to connect to the machine over serialconsole
1157[13:11:34] <BCMM> dracc: can you pastebin the whole output of your attempt to build?
1158[13:11:55] <physkets> now do I just plugin a USB with the ISO image dd'ed to it?
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1161[13:13:25] <BCMM> physkets: replaced-url
1162[13:13:59] <BCMM> physkets: i was about to suggest typing in kernel boot params blind, but turns out that if you don't have a graphics card the installer should bring up the serial console automatically
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1165[13:14:59] <physkets> So will I have to change the device and baud?
1166[13:15:14] <physkets> I'm currently using ttyUSB0 and 115200,8n1
1167[13:15:22] <physkets> replaced-url
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1169[13:16:13] <fmorelsz> michael2: it doesn't work, now when I try to use the key under root it doesn't give me the pinentry box either
1170[13:16:14] <BCMM> physkets: i don't know what the logic is for bringing it up automatically. are there multiple serial ports on this thing?
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1172[13:16:39] <physkets> nope; just one
1173[13:16:59] <physkets> I'm connecting to it from my laptop using a USB-to-serial connector
1174[13:17:28] <BCMM> well then i guess you shouldn't need to set the device. not sure what the default baud rate will be.
1175[13:17:53] <physkets> okay...
1176[13:18:07] <michael2> fmorelsz: does your system running X?
1177[13:18:08] <physkets> One other thing... do I use stable, testing or unstable?
1178[13:18:20] <BCMM> physkets: at any rate i'd try and see if it just works automatically before fiddling with boot params!
1179[13:18:32] <fmorelsz> michael2: server is headless
1180[13:18:37] <BCMM> physkets: up to you, really. some would say "if you have to ask, use stable"
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1182[13:18:50] <BCMM> physkets: do you mind if some of the software is a few years old?
1183[13:18:52] <physkets> hmmm.... but some of the packages on it are so old
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1186[13:19:02] <BCMM> well, does it matter for your use-case?
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1189[13:19:23] <physkets> well, take things like the Matrix server: Synapse...
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1191[13:19:34] <physkets> that is relatively new, and only exists on Sidney
1192[13:19:40] <physkets> (I think)
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1195[13:20:07] <physkets> replaced-url
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1197[13:20:24] <BCMM> physkets: it's in buster (testing) and sid (unstable)
1198[13:20:40] <BCMM> replaced-url
1199[13:20:48] <physkets> I'm going to make this a personal server for comms, and maybe CalDAV
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1201[13:21:03] <michael2> fmorelsz: something may have started gpg agent - and given your user account the env vars - to reach it but not root
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1203[13:21:33] <michael2> fmorelsz: so how are you switching between the root and user accounts?
1204[13:21:35] <physkets> BCMM: ya, so it gets pretty frequent updates, and I think I should use Sid for it, no?
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1206[13:21:42] <padomay> What is matrix synapse?
1207[13:22:37] <BCMM> physkets: it really does come down to your own preferences, on risk of breakage vs. need for things to be new
1208[13:22:50] <physkets> padomay: Matrix is a communication protocol
1209[13:23:13] <BCMM> physkets: if you're reasonably competant at administering debian-style systems, i'd say Sid is not as difficult as people make out
1210[13:23:18] <physkets> BCMM: this is not critical in any way; I'm playing around so I think I'll use Sid...
1211[13:23:20] <fmorelsz> michael2: I think you're right, I just noticed normal user as this in its zshrc "GPG_TTY=$(tty); export GPG_TTY" while root doesnt
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1213[13:23:52] <physkets> Nope; I have used deb-based distros in a very long time
1214[13:23:59] <physkets> * have not
1215[13:23:59] <BCMM> physkets: the main thing is, you really *do* need to check the list of packages when updating, as full-upgrade will occasionally want to remove a lot of stuff
1216[13:24:12] <physkets> okay, what do you mean?
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1219[13:24:21] <physkets> why would it remove?
1220[13:24:26] <BCMM> physkets: oh and you need to ask #debian-next on oftc as this channel is supposed to be stable-only
1221[13:24:44] <padomay> physkets like tcp-udp?
1222[13:24:55] <physkets> ah; cool, I will ask them if I face issues with it
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1224[13:25:01] <physkets> padomay: nope; like XMPP
1225[13:25:40] <michael2> fmorelsz: how are you switching between the accounts? are you just logging in under different ssh sessions?
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1227[13:26:24] <padomay> physkets oh ok..
1228[13:26:27] <fmorelsz> michael2: I'm always doing ssh to my normal account (root is disabled), and then doing "sudo su"
1229[13:26:37] <BCMM> padomay: it's the latest attempt to do a good, federated real-time comms protocol. like xmmp or sip.
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1231[13:26:44] <physkets> BCMM: ummm one small issue... where do I get Sid? I can only see downloads for stable
1232[13:27:01] <BCMM> physkets: you generally install stable and then upgrade it
1233[13:27:17] <michael2> fmorelsz: that was the first thing I asked you earlier. so then try: sudo -E su - does that fix it?
1234[13:27:18] <physkets> ohhh!!! okay, cool!
1235[13:27:21] <BCMM> i think some of the weirder install methods can get you straight to sid, but that's the supported way
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1238[13:27:30] <fmorelsz> michael2: let me check
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1241[13:27:34] <BCMM> well, i mean not *supported* supported because it is still sid but you get the idea
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1244[13:28:59] <fmorelsz> michael2: nope, it still asks me for the passphrase
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1247[13:30:04] <michael2> fmorelsz: so is gpg-agent remembering password for regular user still?
1248[13:30:11] <fmorelsz> michael2: yes.
1249[13:30:14] <michael2> ok
1250[13:30:34] <michael2> what is output of `printenv | grep -i gpg' ?
1251[13:30:41] <fmorelsz> for normal or root?
1252[13:30:46] <michael2> normal
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1254[13:31:15] <fmorelsz> I get "GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0"
1255[13:31:37] <michael2> fmorelsz: now if you enter root using `sudo -E su' - then rerun the command what is output?
1256[13:32:17] <fmorelsz> I get "GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" too
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1259[13:33:16] <michael2> fmorelsz: can you please now try runnning: export GPG_TTY ?
1260[13:33:27] <fmorelsz> under root right?
1261[13:33:33] <michael2> yes, under root
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1263[13:33:44] <michael2> then try using gpg again - under root
1264[13:34:34] <fmorelsz> you want me to do "export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" ?
1265[13:34:54] <michael2> sure its the same thing
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1267[13:35:39] <fmorelsz> it still asking for the passphrase :(
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1269[13:36:06] <michael2> weird...
1270[13:36:18] <fmorelsz> if I go back to normal user after exit command I can decrypt and it doesnt ask me
1271[13:36:31] <AliceKelly> does command | grep search crieria work with prety much all debian commands ?
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1277[13:37:55] <sleepyhead> AliceKelly: only the ones that output to standard output
1278[13:38:32] <michael2> fmorelsz: what does `printenv | grep -i ssh' give you for both user and root ?
1279[13:38:44] <AliceKelly> sleepyhead, so like glxinfo | grep error ?
1280[13:38:57] <michael2> I wounder if ssh_agent has stored the keys?
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1282[13:39:33] <sleepyhead> AliceKelly: idk what glxinfo outputs. does it output to standard output? if yes then grep will work in that manner
1283[13:39:56] <fmorelsz> I get ssh_client and ssh_connection with ips but what's important is I get SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 for normal user
1284[13:39:58] <sleepyhead> AliceKelly: otherwise if it outputs to standard error you will have to redirect that to standard output first and then grep it
1285[13:40:07] <AliceKelly> how does one tell sd out vs whatever else there is
1286[13:40:18] <sleepyhead> AliceKelly: try the command and see for yourself
1287[13:40:24] <sleepyhead> AliceKelly: most times it is stdout
1288[13:40:24] <AliceKelly> sorry im learning
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1290[13:40:38] <michael2> fmorelsz: ok, well then Im out of ideas. sorry :(
1291[13:40:45] <fmorelsz> michael2: for root I dont get anything, until I do -E
1292[13:41:04] <fmorelsz> lol no problem
1293[13:41:14] <AliceKelly> im pretty impressed by pipeing the output to grep if you hadnt noticed
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1297[13:43:25] <sleepyhead> AliceKelly: "try the command and see for yourself" wasn't sarcasm or criticism. it is literally how we learn.
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1301[13:44:52] <AliceKelly> workin on it
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1312[13:49:12] <dracc> BCMM, replaced-url
1313[13:49:18] <AliceKelly> i been rtfm on webgl ati drivers opengl tried 5 or 6 different browsers and begged for help in here for days trying to get webgl to work. im at wits end
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1317[13:50:30] <Kevlar_Noir> HELLO
1318[13:50:45] <Kevlar_Noir> I'm having way too much interrupts on xhci_hcd
1319[13:50:49] <Kevlar_Noir> I can't explain why
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1321[13:51:18] <Kevlar_Noir> I even can't explain why my mackie soundcard has the double per seconds
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1324[13:51:54] <Kevlar_Noir> Can it be an issue with my skylake motherboard ?
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1326[13:52:12] <AliceKelly> using pulse ?
1327[13:52:25] <Kevlar_Noir> no
1328[13:52:27] <Kevlar_Noir> JACK
1329[13:52:37] <Kevlar_Noir> I mean alsa
1330[13:52:52] <Kevlar_Noir> I "systemctl --mask" pulse service
1331[13:53:14] <AliceKelly> i have an alsa sound also.. i had to remove all the pulse audio stuff for it to work right
1332[13:53:26] <Kevlar_Noir> IRQ interrupts
1333[13:53:35] <Kevlar_Noir> on usb ports
1334[13:53:53] <Kevlar_Noir> on skylake it seems that, there's only the xhci_hcd module that is used
1335[13:54:33] <AliceKelly> but if the software is installed at all it screws with alsa
1336[13:54:45] <Kevlar_Noir> ?
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1338[13:55:16] <Kevlar_Noir> I think I need to write to gigabyte
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1340[13:55:33] <Kevlar_Noir> or intel
1341[13:55:42] <AliceKelly> systemctl just stops it from starting.
1342[13:55:53] <Kevlar_Noir> yes..
1343[13:55:54] <AliceKelly> doesnt uninstall it
1344[13:56:06] <Kevlar_Noir> it's usefull if I want to reactivate it
1345[13:56:10] <Mysterytrain> GNU\colossus: well that wasn't the answer, but thanks for suggesting it
1346[13:56:26] <Kevlar_Noir> it's a "protip"
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1348[13:56:35] <Kevlar_Noir> it's off topic
1349[13:56:42] <AliceKelly> if you say so.
1350[13:56:59] <AliceKelly> you mentioned your mackey soundcard
1351[13:57:03] <Kevlar_Noir> sorry, yes I4m using a RT kernel and I need to solve many issues
1352[13:57:40] <Kevlar_Noir> yes I have an usb interface with the same resolution "irqtop" show me 4000 on one core
1353[13:57:48] <Kevlar_Noir> for the mackie it's the twice
1354[13:58:12] <Kevlar_Noir> and if I "cat /proc/interrupts"
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1356[13:58:35] <Kevlar_Noir> I can see that everything is ok except the xhci_hcd irq
1357[13:59:00] <Kevlar_Noir> I don't know If there's some people that could help me
1358[13:59:16] <Kevlar_Noir> I removed irqbalance
1359[13:59:23] <Kevlar_Noir> I installed rtirq
1360[13:59:32] <Kevlar_Noir> I raised the priority on the usb
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1362[13:59:48] <Kevlar_Noir> but that solve nothing
1363[14:00:01] <Kevlar_Noir> I can't explain why there's so much interrupts
1364[14:00:10] <Kevlar_Noir> bios settings ?
1365[14:00:26] <AliceKelly> lsusb -t
1366[14:00:55] <Kevlar_Noir> §YES
1367[14:01:14] <Kevlar_Noir> what I see
1368[14:01:20] <Kevlar_Noir> the abnormal thing
1369[14:01:44] <Kevlar_Noir> is that even with devices plugged on an usb 3.0 port there's ony the 2.0 hub that is used
1370[14:02:14] <Kevlar_Noir> it's maybe logical
1371[14:02:18] <AliceKelly> usb driver not loading
1372[14:02:25] <AliceKelly> usb 3
1373[14:02:25] <Kevlar_Noir> because I have no 3.0 cable
1374[14:02:48] <Kevlar_Noir> firmware issue ?
1375[14:03:02] <physkets> BCMM: I doesn't seem to be working very well
1376[14:03:14] <AliceKelly> sounds like hardware isnt backwards compatible
1377[14:03:32] <Kevlar_Noir> it's not an exotic brand
1378[14:03:57] <physkets> BCMM: I detects the USB as: ISOLINUX 6.03 20171018 EHDD
1379[14:04:08] <physkets> does that sound right?
1380[14:04:18] <Kevlar_Noir> I hardly need help
1381[14:04:33] <Kevlar_Noir> My last solution will be to buiy a firewire interface
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1383[14:04:54] <AliceKelly> or a usb 3 cable
1384[14:04:56] <physkets> BCMM: I used the DVD image for debian
1385[14:05:01] <Kevlar_Noir> with a texas instrument chip
1386[14:05:49] <Kevlar_Noir> no no.. usb cable is not the logic
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1388[14:06:09] <Kevlar_Noir> I need to analyse, and know what is causing this issue
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1391[14:06:49] <Kevlar_Noir> and ( sorry for my english, I'm froggy )
1392[14:06:51] <pragomer> sorry, I need help: I cannot find a debian-testing iso non free
1393[14:07:02] <pragomer> could you help me finding a download link?
1394[14:07:03] <physkets> I'm having trouble with installing on a machine via serial console
1395[14:07:23] <physkets> during boot, it detects the USB,
1396[14:07:39] <BCMM> physkets: how did you write the image to USB?
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1398[14:08:05] <physkets> I used 'dd'
1399[14:08:14] <AliceKelly> physkets, you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change first one to contrib non-free
1400[14:08:18] <Kevlar_Noir> maybe I have a device which is eating all
1401[14:08:46] <physkets> AliceKelly: in the ISO? and why?
1402[14:08:49] <BCMM> physkets: well, that's the right approach. debian provides "hybrid" ISO images that should work directly from usb
1403[14:08:53] <BCMM> physkets: so, where does stuff go wrong?
1404[14:09:10] <physkets> well, after I choose the USB boot entry,
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1406[14:09:22] <physkets> It says:
1407[14:09:25] <BCMM> physkets: i have no idea what AliceKelly's is talking about, can only assume she's confused you with somebody else
1408[14:09:25] <physkets> Undefined video mode number: 314
1409[14:09:37] <physkets> :)
1410[14:09:45] <ksqsf> pragomer: check debian-cdimage
1411[14:09:50] <ksqsf> pragomer: replaced-url
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1413[14:10:05] <physkets> BCMM: then it says:
1414[14:10:05] <AliceKelly> BCMM, tes i did sorry that was for physkets
1415[14:10:09] <BCMM> physkets: how do you choose the boot entry? does the firmware provide a serial interface for choosing boot media or something?
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1417[14:10:14] <physkets> Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec
1418[14:10:28] <Pratik> Hello
1419[14:10:33] <BCMM> physkets: right, so that's linux trying to set up your video card, which is clearly a mistake
1420[14:10:45] <physkets> BCMM: yep, while booting, if I press F10, it shows me a boot menu
1421[14:10:58] <pragomer> thanks. and do I choose daily-builds for having testing?
1422[14:11:05] <BCMM> physkets: on what?
1423[14:11:13] <pragomer> because "current" seems to be 9.4.0 which is stable, right?
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1425[14:11:30] <BCMM> physkets: i must say, i'm a bit confused about how you're seeing that "press <ENTER> to see video modes" message.
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1427[14:11:35] <physkets> BCMM: I connected my keyboard to the machine on which I'm installing it
1428[14:11:40] <BCMM> physkets: are you getting that over serial or what?
1429[14:11:49] <physkets> yes, I see that over serial
1430[14:12:04] <BCMM> physkets: so what happens if you just press space to continue then?
1431[14:12:34] <physkets> if I press space, it just gets stuck, and does nothing more
1432[14:12:45] <physkets> If I press <ENTER>, it says:
1433[14:12:56] <physkets> Mode: Resolution: Type:
1434[14:13:04] <physkets> 0 F00 80x25 CGA/MDA/HGC
1435[14:13:06] <AliceKelly> Kevlar_Noir, replaced-url
1436[14:13:15] <physkets> Enter a video mode or "scan" to scan for additional modes:
1437[14:13:52] <physkets> BCMM: What do you guess is happening?
1438[14:14:29] <Kevlar_Noir> AliceKelly, I will check it
1439[14:14:56] <Kevlar_Noir> THANK YOU
1440[14:15:12] <AliceKelly> Kevlar_Noir, they turned off legacy usb and forced usb3
1441[14:15:17] <AliceKelly> in bios
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1443[14:15:42] <Kevlar_Noir> ok I already check this topic in the past
1444[14:16:02] <Kevlar_Noir> everything seems normal
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1447[14:16:39] <AliceKelly> i would turn on legacy usb aand disable usb3
1448[14:16:48] <Kevlar_Noir> maybe
1449[14:16:54] <Kevlar_Noir> I can try a kernel parameter
1450[14:16:58] <AliceKelly> temporarily
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1452[14:18:00] <Kevlar_Noir> yes that's a good idea
1453[14:18:20] <AliceKelly> its worth a try o switch it of reboot then go back and turn it on
1454[14:18:31] <AliceKelly> off
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1457[14:18:51] <pragomer> sorry, I still cannot find the right iso file
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1459[14:18:52] <AliceKelly> just an easy test
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1461[14:19:56] <pragomer> which one is testing ? replaced-url
1462[14:20:06] <AliceKelly> pragomer, i dont think youll find a non-free iso on debian
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1470[14:23:33] <Guest57985> ah
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1473[14:25:09] <Avengeld7fold> User kali linux
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1476[14:26:30] <Avengeld7fold> User kali linux
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1478[14:28:15] <AliceKelly> guten morgen
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1483[14:28:59] <shtrb> !de
1484[14:28:59] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
1485[14:29:09] <AliceKelly> ok
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1487[14:29:37] <shtrb> but you can get service here if you wish to talk in english
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1489[14:30:03] <AliceKelly> im american, just saw someone speak herman so said hi
1490[14:30:11] <AliceKelly> german*
1491[14:30:49] <AliceKelly> !bollocks
1492[14:30:56] <AliceKelly> lol
1493[14:31:02] <Avengeld7fold> asia
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1508[14:36:51] <kill0rmachine> grüß gott
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1511[14:38:19] <Avengeld7fold> lol
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1513[14:38:32] <Avengeld7fold> kali linux
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1515[14:38:55] <shtrb> !tzh
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1518[14:39:50] <physkets> BCMM: any ideas?
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1520[14:40:48] <brutser> hi, when using live-build , i am trying to set desktop prefs with gsettings, but i got no clue where to put the commands, i tried in config/hooks and using dbus-launch, but no success.. anyone?
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1535[14:46:34] <AliceKelly> physkets, your trying to find non free drivers right ?
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1538[14:48:19] <velix> Does DPKG keep track, which package I'm installing at which date?
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1542[14:49:18] <p21k> velix, no it only tracks the versions
1543[14:49:25] <velix> p21k: okay :(((
1544[14:49:39] <velix> p21k: this might help: replaced-url
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1547[14:51:17] <physkets> AliceKelly: nope, I am not
1548[14:51:47] <p21k> velix, well u can check the log files for dates i guess never needed it tbh
1549[14:52:21] <physkets> AliceKelly: I'm trying to install deb to a machine that only has a serial output
1550[14:52:24] <AliceKelly> sorry thought you were the one in console looking for a non free iso
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1552[14:52:34] <velix> I'm pretty sad that isn't a basic functionality ... I mean, tracking installations should be an important function to a package based distribution.
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1554[14:53:02] <physkets> :)
1555[14:53:06] <AliceKelly> physkets, interesting
1556[14:53:20] <physkets> but I'm not able to it is just getting stuck
1557[14:53:27] <physkets> after it says:
1558[14:53:38] <physkets> ISOLINUX 6.03 20171018 EHDDKBD
1559[14:53:47] <AliceKelly> and its not loading a video driver for serial
1560[14:53:58] <physkets> I don't know
1561[14:54:12] <physkets> Undefined video mode number: 314
1562[14:54:20] <physkets> Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec
1563[14:54:33] <kill0rmachine> i wait
1564[14:54:44] <physkets> If I press space or wait 30 sec, it then gets stuck, with no more output
1565[14:54:49] <AliceKelly> what do you get when you press enter for modes
1566[14:54:51] <p21k> velix, dpkg tracks installed software and it versions and it is easy to check dpkg -l but the timestamps are in the log files
1567[14:55:27] <physkets> AliceKelly: the following:
1568[14:55:29] <physkets> Mode: Resolution: Type:
1569[14:55:36] <physkets> 0 F00 80x25 CGA/MDA/HGC
1570[14:55:44] <physkets> Enter a video mode or "scan" to scan for additional modes:
1571[14:55:54] <physkets> that's it...
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1573[14:56:07] <velix> Yeah, ubuntu has a nice tool which helps me.
1574[14:56:16] <physkets> If I type scan, it gives me the same thing again
1575[14:56:21] <velix> p21k: it parses dpkg's logs, even when gzipped.
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1577[14:56:28] <physkets> If I type 0, it gets stuck again
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1579[14:57:20] <AliceKelly> so let me get this strait. you have a system with no video card and gettting output to a serial port
1580[14:57:28] <physkets> yes,
1581[14:57:35] <AliceKelly> but it sticcks
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1583[14:58:06] <physkets> yep, after a point.
1584[14:58:22] <AliceKelly> i bet your kernel isnt compiled for serial video
1585[14:58:55] <brutser> i am overlooking something, dont think i can execute gsettings from a live-build config?
1586[14:58:56] <AliceKelly> im guessing so kick me in the head when your frustrated with me
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1588[14:59:07] <physkets> which kernel?
1589[14:59:16] <physkets> of my laptop?
1590[14:59:21] <physkets> or the ISO?
1591[14:59:26] <AliceKelly> the one your trying to boot to
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1594[15:00:50] <physkets> so you mean of the debian iso?
1595[15:00:51] <AliceKelly> i havent built a kernel in a long time but this kernel in sable seems to be sooper bad ass at detecting hardware
1596[15:01:10] <physkets> well, but there is this link that BCMM pointe me to:
1597[15:01:17] <physkets> replaced-url
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1599[15:02:03] <AliceKelly> im thinking find another machine / build one for your machine and stick it in a custome install iso
1600[15:02:29] <Avengeld7fold> nub
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1603[15:03:15] <BCMM> physkets: sorry, i was afk. i think you probably need to pass kernel boot parameters to disable graphical output and explicitly enable the serial console, but i'm not sure exactly what those params are
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1605[15:03:40] <BCMM> i'm afk again now
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1608[15:04:10] <AliceKelly> or do it the easy way lol
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1610[15:05:21] <BCMM> physkets: i don't know why i'm just thinking of this now, but do you have a network interface? headless setup with SSH is rather more common and it will be easier to find support for that
1611[15:05:51] <physkets> BCMM: the device does have an ethernetport
1612[15:05:53] <BCMM> you can configure a serial console getty after installation
1613[15:05:59] <physkets> it has 3, actually
1614[15:06:18] <physkets> so do I enable Pxe boot or somethinglike that?
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1618[15:07:05] <AliceKelly> physkets, this tells you exactly how to do it
1619[15:07:08] <AliceKelly> replaced-url
1620[15:07:37] <kill0rmachine> not 100% sure but the bootoption should be "text"
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1622[15:07:57] <BCMM> physkets: pxe boot would be for loading your boot image from the network instead of from usb. sounds like boot is already working fine
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1625[15:08:27] <BCMM> it's just a matter of telling the OS to configure the network and start ssh
1626[15:08:33] <physkets> okay, how do I do the SSH thing, then?
1627[15:08:44] <physkets> but it doesn't even boot (I think)
1628[15:09:15] <BCMM> physkets: there's some somewhat old advice here on editing the iso to automatically enable ssh replaced-url
1629[15:09:33] <BCMM> hmm it seems a bit cd-focused
1630[15:09:37] <BCMM> i think i'm out of my depth tbh
1631[15:09:44] <AliceKelly> console=ttyS0,9600n8 TERM=ansi
1632[15:09:58] <brutser> anyone? if i have auto login with a live-build, how can i change desktop settings? like hide trash icon, change wallpaper? I thought about using gsettings, but don't know where and when.
1633[15:10:25] <BCMM> physkets: oh and of course, if the hardware permits it, the *really* easy option is to just take out the hard drive, install debian using a normal computer, and then put it back...
1634[15:10:43] <AliceKelly> ya what he said
1635[15:10:56] <kill0rmachine> there are diffrent desktops ... xfce, gnome, kde
1636[15:11:04] <kill0rmachine> and more
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1643[15:13:16] <physkets> oh... hmmm.... the harddrive is a SATA SSD
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1646[15:13:31] <physkets> a small one with an M.2 like interface
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1649[15:16:09] <kneekoo> hello, how is it possible to apt install vlc but dpkg reports this? dpkg -l vlc >> dpkg-query: no packages found matching vlc
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1651[15:17:05] <kneekoo> I'm working on a script and I want to have a reliable way to determine if a package is available for installation
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1653[15:17:45] <kneekoo> obviously, this works to determine if a package is installed: dpkg -s vlc
1654[15:18:14] <kneekoo> but "dpkg -l" doesn't work on some packages for some reason
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1656[15:19:03] <physkets> AliceKelly BCMM I think I will try to do that;
1657[15:19:15] <kill0rmachine> "dpkg -l" lists installed packages
1658[15:19:31] <kill0rmachine> try "apt-get install vlc"
1659[15:19:41] <AliceKelly> got to be easier
1660[15:19:58] <kneekoo> kill0rmachine: I want to know if a package exists in the repository
1661[15:20:08] <kneekoo> that's what I need for a script
1662[15:20:25] <kill0rmachine> apt-cache search vlc | grep ^vlc
1663[15:20:46] <AliceKelly> cant you apt-get search name ?
1664[15:20:54] <kill0rmachine> duno :3
1665[15:21:11] <AliceKelly> apt-cache i mean
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1667[15:23:00] <kneekoo> well, apt search is tricky
1668[15:23:51] <kneekoo> for instance, apt search always returns the error code 0, even when it doesn't find a match
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1671[15:24:13] <kill0rmachine> 0 is not an error or?
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1674[15:24:24] <kneekoo> 0 = success
1675[15:24:45] <kneekoo> anything else = another exit status
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1677[15:25:03] <kneekoo> anyway, apt search was a good suggestion
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1679[15:25:12] <kneekoo> I did this: apt search ^vlc$
1680[15:25:46] <kill0rmachine> ah nice it takes regex
1681[15:25:50] <kneekoo> this will match the exact package name and it displays it if it exists in the repository/cache
1682[15:26:06] <kill0rmachine> yeah tried it out
1683[15:26:11] <kill0rmachine> cool
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1686[15:26:31] <kneekoo> I still get an exit code 0, but all I have is to combine it with | wc -l
1687[15:26:51] <kneekoo> then in my script I can check for the line count :P
1688[15:27:42] <kneekoo> I wish apt/dpkg would make this easier, but at least I found a solution :)
1689[15:27:52] <kill0rmachine> [[ -z $(apt-cache search ^xyz$) ]]&& echo empty
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1693[15:28:19] <kill0rmachine> -z if empty or 0 true
1694[15:28:32] <kill0rmachine> -n if not empty
1695[15:28:59] <kneekoo> nice, thanks! :)
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1707[15:37:08] <kill0rmachine> guess apt-cache search returns at least a newline thats why wc -l shows 1
1708[15:37:54] <kill0rmachine> apt-cache search ^xyz$ | awk '{print $1}' | wc -l
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1791[16:37:51] <physkets> AliceKelly BCMM The drive in the machine turned out to be an mSATA based SSD, and my laptop doesn't have an mSATA port...
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1793[16:38:00] <physkets> so I'll have to find something that has one
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1795[16:38:28] <AliceKelly> or buy a cheap card to connect it to
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1798[16:41:41] <physkets> Are there mSATA to USB adapters?
1799[16:42:03] <brutser> trying to set desktop preferences, like hide trash icon, wallpaper for certain user. how do I get this done? normally would use gsettings, but doing this with a live-cd build?
1800[16:43:28] <AliceKelly> i think so
1801[16:43:51] <brutser> should i put the gsettings commands to .bashrc for the specific user? does not sound logical
1802[16:44:00] <AliceKelly> live cds in general wont let you change anything
1803[16:44:51] <somiaj> there are ways to change things with live cds.
1804[16:45:16] <brutser> somiaj: yes i just try to find the correct way
1805[16:45:23] <somiaj> brutser: define what you mean by live-cd build? And there are ways to have a live image and have a persistant home you can do stuff like that in
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1808[16:46:00] <AliceKelly> what she said
1809[16:46:02] <somiaj> though the guides on how to do this with debian live cds keep changing. In jessie it use to be using syslinux, but there is now a way to do this while allowing the live cd to boot both efi and legacy. Various guides on how to do this out tehre.
1810[16:46:23] <AliceKelly> i screwd my distro somehow
1811[16:46:46] <brutser> somiaj: it's a custom build, no persistence, but you can do the config for that, i add a user, but i trying to figure out how to set prefs for desktop for the user
1812[16:47:04] <brutser> you basically can do at 2 stages chroot or binary
1813[16:47:13] <somiaj> brutser: provdied it is built as a live image, you should be able to add persistance to it as if it were a live image.
1814[16:47:42] <brutser> replaced-url
1815[16:47:47] <brutser> i tried this method
1816[16:48:02] <brutser> but basically here they are ommitting to create a user
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1818[16:48:07] <brutser> live distro starts as root
1819[16:48:29] <somiaj> brutser: are you able to create a second partition on the usb stick with that live image?
1820[16:48:42] <brutser> somiaj: yes but that is not what i want
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1822[16:49:05] <brutser> that script i pasted is assuming that will work for the root user
1823[16:49:20] <brutser> at chroot stage the additional user has not been added yet
1824[16:49:49] <brutser> with live build you can get interactive shell during build time
1825[16:49:59] <brutser> but running the gsetting then will not work
1826[16:50:00] <somiaj> personally that is what I would use, create a second ext4 partition, call it 'persistent' or something like that, boot with the boot flag 'live persistent'
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1828[16:50:43] <somiaj> ahh so you just want this on the live image, you don't actually want peristant, maybe try #debian-live on irc.oftc.net, someone there maybe more familar with live-build
1829[16:51:00] <brutser> somiaj: ok, but that is not needed to change system prefs, if you want them permanent, you can configure them for the distro
1830[16:51:15] <brutser> i asked on debian-live, but hardly any activity there for last days
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1832[16:51:41] <somiaj> well it is a small channel, you may need to wait around, but you'll actually get responses by people who are familar with livebuild
1833[16:52:28] <somiaj> brutser: are you able to add stuff to /etc, you could add that to /etc/skel, and then when you create the user, it gets coppied?
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1835[16:53:38] <somiaj> or I wonder if you could make some debian package that installs something in /etc/skel, then that can be used to create the user
1836[16:53:40] <brutser> somiaj: the script suggests that yes, just it does not get executed it seems
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1850[17:03:59] <Tech_8> hi
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1876[17:25:53] <velix> Sometimes I'm just going CRAZY...
1877[17:26:13] <velix> After 3 hours of debugging, why IP forwarding didn't work, I figured out: it's not names eth0 ;))
1878[17:26:26] <velix> s/names/named
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1883[17:30:34] <somiaj> you can change it back to eth0 if you like
1884[17:30:41] <somiaj> you can actually make the name anything you want.
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1887[17:31:21] <kill0rmachine> how can i give a custom name to iface?
1888[17:31:31] <somiaj> kill0rmachine: man systemd.link
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1890[17:32:09] <somiaj> the old udev rules work too if you have the macaddress, I have that on my system since it was an upgrde from before systemd
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1892[17:32:40] <somiaj> but systemd.link provides you a way to name your interfaces using systemd
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1894[17:34:13] <velix> somiaj: yeah, it's a VMware thing.
1895[17:34:26] <velix> somiaj: I've just changed my code ... eth0 isn't a must.
1896[17:34:32] <velix> somiaj: I just didn't check before ;)
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1914[17:42:23] <orblivion> hm, ok, trying something weird
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1916[17:44:04] <NicolaiVdS> o/ im trying to make a webhook for our git server (selfhosted gitlab) to make it auto pull on a push but now im faceing a strange issue when it try's to pull it askes for the git password (only does that on the admin account not the root)
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1918[17:44:35] <NicolaiVdS> any know what this can be becuase our git server only uses ssh key to push and pull
1919[17:45:37] <somiaj> does the user running the hook script have its ssh key configured correctly?
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1924[17:46:23] <somiaj> or is the enviorment setup in the script run by the hook correctly so the ssh key can be found?
1925[17:47:18] <NicolaiVdS> its has the key in its .ssh folder and the user.email is a global value
1926[17:47:48] <somiaj> could it be that the enviorment being used when the hook is run isn't set up correctly?
1927[17:48:32] <NicolaiVdS> somiaj how do you mean ?
1928[17:48:58] <somiaj> in order fo the ssh key to be found $HOME and the user running the script triggered by the webhook need to be configured correctly
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1930[17:49:12] <somiaj> since I'm unsure what sort of webserver you setup for this webhook, this is just a guess
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1938[17:50:07] <NicolaiVdS> a need to look into that (any tips for that ?) and im using vestacp (apache2 + nginx proxy)
1939[17:50:25] <NicolaiVdS> and the hook itself is php executing a sh file
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1946[17:53:05] <Mysterytrain> what is the code for linux swap now that it is no longer 82? I'm in debian-installer and there is no "less" to display the codes
1947[17:53:26] <somiaj> in the one system I did that in, I set the HOME= and various other varioubles in the script (though I don't use ssh keys)
1948[17:53:51] <somiaj> NicolaiVdS: what user is the shell script running as? I perosnally just used a simple python server for my use
1949[17:54:14] <NicolaiVdS> admin is running it
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1951[17:54:56] <NicolaiVdS> a sudo'er
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1953[17:55:53] <somiaj> well if you can run the script manually as the user and it works, but not from the hook, this means something about the enviorment is not setup correctly.
1954[17:56:33] <NicolaiVdS> i can run it as the user but it asks for a password
1955[17:56:38] <NicolaiVdS> thats the problem
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1957[17:56:47] <NicolaiVdS> its not using the key
1958[17:57:11] <NicolaiVdS> only root can pull and push :s
1959[17:57:15] <NicolaiVdS> not any other user
1960[17:57:40] <somiaj> well is the key setup for other users, or just root?
1961[17:58:00] <somiaj> anyways seem like some configuration issue with the enviorment/key, but I don't know enough to say exactly where
1962[17:58:37] <somiaj> try git pull -v as the user, and see if you can get any info about what it is trying.
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1967[18:00:38] <NicolaiVdS> ok
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1969[18:01:31] <NicolaiVdS> nothing it asked for the pass
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1972[18:02:01] <somiaj> and the ssh key is located in $HOME/.ssh, and $HOME/.ssh and the key all have correct permisions?
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1977[18:03:21] <somiaj> found this on stack exchange, in the git repo, look at .git/config, what is the url listed there?
1978[18:03:33] <somiaj> url = ....
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1981[18:04:19] <NicolaiVdS> derp of me
1982[18:04:30] <somiaj> it says https instead of ssh I'm assuming
1983[18:04:35] <NicolaiVdS> the key ways only readable by root gg me
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1985[18:04:41] <NicolaiVdS> (facepalm)
1986[18:04:43] <somiaj> ahh there you go
1987[18:04:55] <NicolaiVdS> so stupid of me
1988[18:04:59] <somiaj> ssh is very particular about permissions on keys
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2042[18:43:14] <ska> Setting accessibility.force_disabled = 1 helps a lot
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2046[18:44:16] <hypn0> it faster here without that? did you try a new profile?
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2058[18:51:50] <brutser> is there some kind of minimal package for wine on debian? or do i have to install full wine, wine32, wine64?
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2060[18:52:32] <hypn0> do you need wine :-/
2061[18:53:33] <brutser> hypn0: yes i know, but i really need macro function in notepad++ and notepadqq is not compiling on debian with me and also not sure if that has the macro recording option
2062[18:53:41] <velix> When using "unshare --mount-proc", why do I still need to mount proc inside the chroot?
2063[18:53:46] <velix> Is this a bug?
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2066[18:54:21] <hypn0> replaced-url
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2072[18:55:51] <KaffeeJunky123> Hi, I'm having some trouble with making a bootable usb pendrive, when it's unmounted the partitions don't show up anymore, it's just listed as /dev/sdf and it's not recognized as a drive in parted, any ideas what could be causing that?
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2075[18:58:31] <hypn0> there is a snaps version too brutser it seems
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2078[18:58:53] <p3rs3us> hey guys, thunar in xfce seems to freeze all the time for me. I found the issue reported in replaced-url
2079[18:58:54] <judd> Bug replaced-url
2080[18:58:58] <brutser> hypn0: where?
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2082[18:59:10] <hypn0> replaced-url
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2089[19:03:08] <petn-randall> p3rs3us: You can build your own Debian package and apply the patch. However it might be worth poking the maintainer through the bug report.
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2092[19:04:26] <p3rs3us> petn-randall, i could find a similar one in replaced-url
2093[19:04:27] <judd> Bug replaced-url
2094[19:04:54] <p3rs3us> petn-randall, today i have used xkill more than 10 times in thunar .. is really annoying
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2097[19:06:36] <velix> Can anyone tell me, if "finit" is a stretch packages? apt-cache search doesn't work in this.
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2099[19:08:45] <Ouroboros> KaffeeJunky123: unmounted?
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2103[19:10:56] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: yes I ejected the drive, because the bootable usb drive tool needs to format stuff
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2106[19:11:57] <Ouroboros> i am confused, if the drive is ejected, then obviously partitions will not show anymore?
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2108[19:12:28] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: in parted?
2109[19:12:31] <Ouroboros> nor would /dev/sdf
2110[19:12:37] <Ouroboros> anywhere
2111[19:12:39] <KaffeeJunky123> You can't format a mounted drive
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2114[19:12:52] <KaffeeJunky123> if the filesystem is mounted you cannot format it
2115[19:12:54] <Ouroboros> mounted and ejected are not the same thing
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2118[19:13:25] <Ouroboros> partitions can be mounted and unmounted, drives can be inserted or ejected
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2122[19:14:39] <Ouroboros> not trying to be cpt obvious, just trying to clarify what you are actually doing
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2124[19:15:00] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: what does the arrow button next to a partition in the file manager do? unmount or eject?
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2126[19:15:16] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: well anyways, I tried both through the guy and using the unmount command on the folder
2127[19:15:18] <Ouroboros> no idea, i dont use such graphical tools
2128[19:15:26] <KaffeeJunky123> Afterwards it is no longer visible in parted
2129[19:15:52] <KaffeeJunky123> which happens to be what WoeUSB is using in the background to format drives
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2133[19:17:10] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: there's also a different issue with this drive, it has a U3 partition from sandisk, that sometimes hangs when I disconnect the drive, I cannot access anything on the drive until I reboot then
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2136[19:18:39] <KaffeeJunky123> oh well it happend again got to reboot
2137[19:18:43] <Ouroboros> i have a similar drive, i have not had any issue after wiping it and starting from scratch
2138[19:18:57] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: did you wipe the U3 partition?
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2140[19:19:24] <Ouroboros> i think it presents some sort of cd-rom device or partition as well maybe, i dont recall
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2142[19:19:29] <p3rs3us> petn-randall, I got the message not delivered while trying to poke the maintainer 867211@bugs.debian.org, The response was: 550 Unknown or archived bug
2143[19:19:49] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: yes it's presented as a CD-ROM device
2144[19:19:49] <Ouroboros> KaffeeJunky123: i would wipe whatever is possible to wipe first
2145[19:19:59] <p3rs3us> petn-randall, should I should re-open the bug?
2146[19:20:14] <KaffeeJunky123> well that's the issue that doesn't work :<
2147[19:20:25] <KaffeeJunky123> Well brb rebooting, cause now it's completely broke
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2151[19:22:41] <nejeeeee> is there a way to load jpg prewievs?
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2153[19:23:05] <petn-randall> p3rs3us: Yes, that makes sense.
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2155[19:23:35] <p3rs3us> petn-randall, well i am first trying to email him directly, but I am not sure if that breaks protocol
2156[19:23:36] <karlpinc> nejeeeee: What do you mean "load"?
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2160[19:24:10] <nejeeeee> to see the picture without having to open it
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2163[19:24:38] <petn-randall> p3rs3us: It makes more sense to use the bug tracker, if the maintainer gets hit by a bus nobody will see that private mail.
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2168[19:26:06] <karlpinc> nejeeeee: This would be an arbitrary jpg on your computer?
2169[19:26:24] <nejeeeee> yes
2170[19:26:37] <nejeeeee> after you open it one time the preview show up in the icon
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2173[19:27:32] <karlpinc> nejeeeee: Some program is going to have to open the file and read the whole thing in order to generate a "preview". jpgs don't, to my knowledge, come with a built-in thumbnail.
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2178[19:30:05] <p3rs3us> petn-randall, I have nevertheless decided to email her/him directly, depending how she/he answers I will then try to reopen the bug
2179[19:30:24] <KaffeeJunky123> Thanks for the suggestion of wiping the drive
2180[19:30:42] <KaffeeJunky123> after reformatting it I could use my USB tool with success
2181[19:31:14] <Ouroboros> hm, ok
2182[19:31:18] <KaffeeJunky123> Well, atleast it is working on copying the files right now ^_^
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2184[19:31:40] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: I've no idea why the partition disappeared after using umount still
2185[19:32:13] <Ouroboros> KaffeeJunky123: i was going to say that it sounds like you are ejecting the drive, but something is going wrong and it is not fully ejecting, so /dev/sdf is still present but using it does not work
2186[19:32:35] <KaffeeJunky123> Yes that's probably what happend when I was using the GUI
2187[19:32:36] <Ouroboros> or maybe that is completely wrong :P
2188[19:32:43] <KaffeeJunky123> That's when the U3 drive locked up
2189[19:33:15] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: on my reboot the disk manager complained about still having a job running
2190[19:33:28] <Ouroboros> KaffeeJunky123: i would do everything from the command line so that you can see exactly what is going wrong
2191[19:33:56] <KaffeeJunky123> Well, I can't even see the U3 partition listed in the output of mount
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2194[19:34:30] <Ouroboros> because it is not mounted
2195[19:34:54] <Ouroboros> you can check e.g. dmesg | grep sdf
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2197[19:35:28] <Ouroboros> unless that is a drive with a different name
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2199[19:36:08] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: I assume the U3 gets a differnt name since there's only sdf and sdf1 in /dev/ when everything is mounted
2200[19:36:14] <Ouroboros> i dont recall whether it is a partition or an actual separate drive
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2202[19:36:25] <KaffeeJunky123> It's handled like a separate drive
2203[19:36:32] <Ouroboros> but still it should all be mentioned in dmesg
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2205[19:38:20] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: it's sr1, I'll check what dmesg says
2206[19:38:26] <Ouroboros> i never did anything special with that partition
2207[19:38:40] <Ouroboros> nor even eject it
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2209[19:39:22] <Ouroboros> i actually ran a full debian system from such a drive for a long time
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2213[19:40:58] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: tons of IO errors on sr1 of different kind
2214[19:41:24] <Ouroboros> hm
2215[19:41:50] <KaffeeJunky123> what's an acceptable pastebin here?
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2218[19:43:56] <LtL> KaffeeJunky123: replaced-url
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2221[19:47:04] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: there's tons of duplicated error messages, I'll trim it down a bit which will take some time
2222[19:47:27] <Ouroboros> can you just show one line?
2223[19:48:16] <karlpinc> KaffeeJunky123: Basically any pastebin that does not show ads. It's also helpful if cookies and javascript are not hard requirements.
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2227[19:50:07] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: replaced-url
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2231[19:50:54] <KaffeeJunky123> karlpinc: I probably wouldn't notice if it shows ads or uses javascript, unless the javascript is from a 3rd party page and required
2232[19:51:14] <KaffeeJunky123> I block most ads through a scriptblocker
2233[19:51:19] <Ouroboros> KaffeeJunky123: i can't view that right now
2234[19:51:51] <KaffeeJunky123> Ouroboros: thanks a lot for your help anyways
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2244[19:58:03] <Tech_8> hi
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2246[19:59:08] <f-a> which paint program do you people use? I feel the need of something lighter than Gimp for basic stuff
2247[20:00:35] <Tech_8> ms paint
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2260[20:11:30] <KaffeeJunky123> f-a: depends on what you want to do, there's gpaint if you're looking for something very simplistic
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2262[20:12:46] <KaffeeJunky123> For more advanced stuff there's krita
2263[20:12:47] <f-a> thanks KaffeeJunky123 , will try it
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2266[20:14:58] <f-a> gpaint seems easy enough. I like gimp but every time I spend 30 sec to recall how-that-particular-thing-is-done
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2268[20:15:26] <KaffeeJunky123> Well, gimp aims to be a professional graphic tool
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2270[20:16:02] <KaffeeJunky123> And it can do many different things
2271[20:16:37] <KaffeeJunky123> If I remember correctly it supports pressure sensitive tablet input amongst other things
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2277[20:19:21] <KaffeeJunky123> f-a: It would be easier to give a sound advice if I knew what your goals in painting are.
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2279[20:21:12] <f-a> KaffeeJunky123: as now I needed to superimpose a small, crummy, monospace text on an image, so gpaint did it. Some other times it is drawing a simple arrow or underlining/circling some part of it. Some other times taking a portion of the image and scale it 1.3x
2280[20:21:25] <f-a> nothing professional, just to illustrate a point/concept to a workmate
2281[20:21:36] <abrotman> inkscape or scribus might be others
2282[20:22:52] <f-a> noted!
2283[20:23:25] <KaffeeJunky123> I agree with abrotman
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2298[20:30:51] <woubit> hello, I have a fresh install of debian 9.4, I was able to reboot sucessfully. I left a process running last night and today I wont boot. There are several errors - some are with bluetooth - which I changed a setting as to not start at boot - and then this: drm: radeon_pci_probe [radeon] *Error* radeon kernal mode setting for R600 or later requires frimware-amd-graphics. Which I've gathered is something I need to install using apt. However this doesn't
2299[20:30:52] <woubit> make a ton of sense seeing that I was able to boot before and also I don't have access to any sort of network connection to install this. I can show the rest of the error if needed but don't know what to do next and I'm really not good with grub
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2301[20:31:01] <t3st3r> f-a> take a look on mtpaint if you want something light and fast.
2302[20:31:30] <woubit> *errors
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2306[20:31:46] <t3st3r> though it fairly limited compared to gimp and more biased to shuffling pixels rather than advanced image processing
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2311[20:31:58] <karlpinc> f-a: I do all that stuff from the command line with ImageMagick
2312[20:32:08] <f-a> thanks t3st3r
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2315[20:32:22] <f-a> karlpinc: mhhhh even putting circles/arrows?
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2317[20:32:55] <karlpinc> f-a: No. Didn't see that. Just adding text. (It'll do that, but....)
2318[20:33:08] <f-a> okie
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2320[20:34:14] <karlpinc> woubit: When you say "won't boot" what does that mean? What's on the screen, or not? Does, say, Ctrl-Alt-F4 work?
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2322[20:35:47] <t3st3r> f-a> welcome. I do some pixel art using that mtpaint thing and it worked suprisingly well for me granten its relatively small and easy program,
2323[20:36:36] <t3st3r> woubit> *Error* radeon kernal mode setting for R600 or later requires frimware-amd-graphics. <- so apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics, eh?
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2325[20:37:42] <woubit> karlpinc, I don't know what ctrl-alt-f4 does but it doesn't appear to work. It displays the usual debian screen - with debian then advanced options - then once it gets to booting debian it asked for the encryption phrase and after thats accepted it starts the process of booting but shows all the errors
2326[20:37:48] <t3st3r> AMD GPUs really need firmware to initialize. I guess it comes from "non-free" section of repos, you should have it enabled.
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2328[20:38:29] <woubit> t3st3r, yes but I don't have network connection in recovery mode. And I know the network connection is solid I'm using ethernet and it worked before
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2332[20:40:38] <t3st3r> woubit> is it wired or wireless?
2333[20:40:46] <woubit> wired
2334[20:41:17] <t3st3r> then you can manually bring it up I guess.
2335[20:41:31] <woubit> okay, how do I manage that
2336[20:41:40] <woubit> I don't have ifconfig in recorvery mode
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2338[20:42:34] <t3st3r> hmmm then use "ip" I guess?
2339[20:42:42] <t3st3r> is it here?
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2341[20:43:37] <woubit> oh yes its there
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2345[20:45:10] <t3st3r> so it would be like ip addr add <what> dev <something> or so. And then ip link set up dev ... and ip route add default .... I guess. That would give one-shot manual config.
2346[20:45:47] <t3st3r> Take a look if there is dhclient or something in recovery if you use dhcp.
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2354[20:53:04] <nidhoegger> hi. why is wayland set to default for GDM3 but Gnome starts as a Xorg session by default?
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2356[20:54:33] <woubit> t3st3r, in my /etc/network/interfaces I doesn't show I have ethernet. Am I supposed to add that first?
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2359[20:55:36] <woubit> wait a minute, actually, if I do - ip addr show - I can see both ethernet and wireless connections
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2367[20:58:07] <karlpinc> woubit: Can you, say "ping -n 8.8.4.4"?
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2372[20:58:35] <woubit> karlpinc, says network unreachable
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2374[20:59:02] <karlpinc> woubit: "ip route show"?
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2378[20:59:14] <woubit> nada
2379[20:59:26] <karlpinc> woubit: You need a default route.
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2381[20:59:41] <woubit> ok, how do I get that
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2383[21:00:28] <karlpinc> woubit: You need your network's gateway address. (Often your IP, only ending in ".1")
2384[21:00:47] <karlpinc> Or .254
2385[21:01:06] <karlpinc> woubit: You should be able to ping your gateway.
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2388[21:01:41] <t3st3r> or if dhclient is in recovery, use that to setup interface for you... sorry, I'm rarely use "recovery" so I do not remember what's here.
2389[21:02:06] <karlpinc> Yes. dhclient would be best
2390[21:02:26] <woubit> so I tried - dhclient - and it rebooted my computer
2391[21:02:46] <t3st3r> hmm?
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2394[21:03:33] <woubit> also idk what my gateway would be
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2397[21:03:45] <woubit> wouldn't I only know that if I had a current connection?
2398[21:03:52] <Mysterytrain> I had a box that died on which I made an lvm array. before it died though i didn't have the opportunity to do vgexport on there. can I still bring my LVM to the new box, or is my data lost forever and i have to wipe those drives and re-create the lvm array
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2403[21:05:36] <t3st3r> Gateway of IPv4 is usually .1 or .254 of used subnet, so if one usually gets IP like 192.168.1.15 they could expect GW to be 192.168.1.1 or .1.254 most of time.
2404[21:05:52] <t3st3r> but it not to be taken as granted, dhcp would know it better
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2407[21:06:16] <t3st3r> and I'm surprised dhclient could reboot computer, yikes!
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2409[21:06:39] <t3st3r> (actually I'm damn curious how or why it could happen :D)
2410[21:06:42] <karlpinc> Mysterytrain: I've had lots of luck moving disks with lvm to other boxes.
2411[21:06:46] <Ouroboros> definitely not always though, the gateway may not even be on the same subnet
2412[21:06:50] <woubit> but you said I should be able to ping the gateway
2413[21:06:57] <woubit> I tried and cannot
2414[21:07:32] <t3st3r> so you haven't set interface properly or used wrong addresses
2415[21:07:55] <karlpinc> woubit: "Your network administrator" knows the gateway address. It's in your router -- it's the address of your router on the LAN side (unless you're bridgeing.)
2416[21:09:03] <karlpinc> woubit: (or somebody's done something stupid and your gateway does not respond to pings -- or you have a firewall blocking them, or...)
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2418[21:09:55] <woubit> well I looked up what the router ip is on the computer I'm on, and pinged that and it didn't work
2419[21:10:31] <karlpinc> woubit: Will it ping from the computer you're on?
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2422[21:10:59] <woubit> it sure will
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2424[21:11:42] <t3st3r> then you messed something. Either wrong addresses or interface not up or something like that?
2425[21:12:03] <Mysterytrain> karlpinc: so do I just hook up the drives and create the same logical volumes using the same order as the last box?
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2427[21:12:23] <karlpinc> woubit: "ip link" sow that the interface is UP?
2428[21:12:31] <velix> When using "unshare --mount-proc", why do I still need to mount proc inside the chroot?
2429[21:13:02] <woubit> yeah, karlpinc, enp2s0 is up
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2431[21:13:28] <woubit> but in /etc/network/interfaces it doesn't show anything but lo
2432[21:13:30] <karlpinc> Mysterytrain: You might just try "lvmchange -ay" and see what happens. I've not worked with an lvm array but I've done that with a pv with some vgs and lvs and it just worked.
2433[21:13:46] <karlpinc> Mysterytrain: Or maybe you need to vgchange -ay.
2434[21:13:53] <Ouroboros> woubit: /etc/network/interfaces is not relevant right now
2435[21:13:59] <woubit> oh
2436[21:14:01] <karlpinc> Mysterytrain: I forget the details.
2437[21:14:08] <Ouroboros> woubit: that is for automatic configuration
2438[21:14:09] <Mysterytrain> karlpinc: thanks. I'l give that awhirl
2439[21:14:21] <woubit> oh okay
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2441[21:14:47] <Ouroboros> woubit: what does
2442[21:15:18] <Ouroboros> woubit: what does 'ip show address' give
2443[21:15:58] <woubit> it says it doesn't know what show it
2444[21:16:08] <woubit> do you mean ip addr show ?
2445[21:16:15] <Ouroboros> yeah, whichever
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2448[21:16:56] <Ouroboros> i last did this yesterday, so it is not like i remember the commands :P
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2452[21:20:21] <woubit> Lo: …
2453[21:20:22] <woubit> Enp2s0: < BROADCAST, MULTICAST, UP LOWER_UP > mtu 1500 disc pfifo_fast state UP group default glen 1000
2454[21:20:22] <woubit> Link/ether 00:25:ab:91:72:c8 brb ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
2455[21:20:22] <woubit> Inet6 [ethernet address] scope global mngtmpaddr dynamic valid_lft 60447sec preferred_lft 60447sec
2456[21:20:22] <woubit> Inet6 [ethernet addr] scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
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2459[21:21:09] <woubit> whoops
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2464[21:24:17] <Ouroboros> so you have not added an address yet
2465[21:24:36] <Mysterytrain> karlpinc: we're up and running, thanks much
2466[21:24:36] <woubit> okay
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2469[21:25:23] <woubit> I just tried - ip route add defaullt via 192.168.1.1 and it says Network unreachable
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2471[21:25:39] <Ouroboros> sure
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2475[21:27:06] <Ouroboros> you need to add your own address first: ip address add <address> dev enp2s0
2476[21:27:36] <Ouroboros> but why are you doing this from recovery anyway?
2477[21:27:41] <woubit> and what would <address> be? the gateway?
2478[21:27:46] <woubit> because I can't boot
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2481[21:28:26] <Ouroboros> nothing that you have said so far suggests that it did not boot
2482[21:28:44] <woubit> I think you missed the first part of the conversation
2483[21:29:18] <Ouroboros> no, i saw the thing about amd firmware, but that should not prevent the console from working
2484[21:29:35] <woubit> okay, do you want to see the rest of the errors
2485[21:29:48] <woubit> theres like 8 of them
2486[21:29:57] <woubit> 4 are more of less the same
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2495[21:34:13] <woubit> sp5100_tco: I/O address 0x0cd6 already in use
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2497[21:34:23] <woubit> Bluetooth hcio:
2498[21:34:23] <woubit> Firmware: failed to load rtl_bt/rtl8821a_config.bin
2499[21:34:23] <woubit> Firmware: failed to load rtl_bt/rtl8821a_fw.bin
2500[21:34:23] <woubit> Rtl882ae: firmware failed to load
2501[21:34:23] <woubit> Relwifi/rtl882aefw_wowlan.bin
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2504[21:34:47] <t3st3r> <woubit> because I can't boot <- well, you can try booting with "nomodeset" kernel cmdline.
2505[21:34:52] <woubit> fell for it again
2506[21:35:09] <t3st3r> and do not paste more than 3-4 lines to IRC :P
2507[21:35:23] <woubit> oh okay hahaha
2508[21:35:26] <woubit> okay let me see
2509[21:35:32] <woubit> and thats in grub?
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2511[21:36:39] <Ouroboros> <tab> on a grub menu entry, then edit the kernel command line
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2520[21:42:59] <woubit> correct me if I'm wrong, I suck at grub, but I pressed e, then added nomodeset to the line: linux /vmlinuz-4.9.0.6 ... ro quiet, then ctrl-x to boot, just got the same result
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2526[21:47:19] <Ouroboros> but can you get a console on <ctrl>-<alt>-<f1>, <ctrl>-<alt>-<f2>, etc?
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2529[21:48:22] <woubit> no
2530[21:48:36] <woubit> I think I'm just going to reinstall
2531[21:48:49] <woubit> thank for all the help though
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2535[21:49:31] <brutser> when i do live-build with --interactive shell i get a cmd at chroot for the live system, but i always get an error here: "mesg: ttyname failed: inappropriate ioctl for device" - how can i fix this?
2536[21:50:10] <t3st3r> <woubit> I think I'm just going to reinstall <- install amd firmwares before reboot.
2537[21:50:38] <woubit> after the fresh install?
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2540[21:51:34] <karlpinc> woubit: Best to use the unoffical installer with non-free firmware. And check that the right firmware is installed before reboot.
2541[21:52:13] <karlpinc> replaced-url
2542[21:52:13] <karlpinc> ding-firmware/current/
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2544[21:52:25] <karlpinc> (er, without the \)
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2549[21:55:53] <woubit> okay thanks karlpinc
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2556[22:02:29] <Ouroboros> woubit: i don't think a reinstall is necessary, but up to you
2557[22:03:21] <woubit> kek I actually figured it out... its my boot key I was in the process of setting one up and I make the boot key the usb drive I installed from smh
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2714[23:38:35] <Ouroboros> why do most sources recommend setting bash HIST* in .profile instead of .bashrc? this causes non-login shells to not have these? why is that desirable?
2715[23:39:53] <Ouroboros> well, unless the non-login shells inherit them anyway
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