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110 [02:15:38] <oerheks> is it me, or do you see weird russian on
replaced-url
111 [02:15:48] <oerheks> same on ubuntu btw
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113 [02:16:57] <sney> 'uk' is probably short for
'ukraine' in terms of localization
114 [02:17:17] <oerheks> oh, not UK ..
115 [02:17:23] <sney> english locale is en
116 [02:17:30] <oerheks> thanks for clearing up
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118 [02:17:34] <sney> np
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210 [03:38:38] <Urk> I am getting an error message indicating
that "This disk is currently in use -- repartitioning is
probably a bad idea. Umount all file systems, and swapoff all swap
partitions on this disk. Use the -- no-reread flag to suppress this
check.". My usb stick is already umounted.
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238 [04:18:01] <Urk> Is this ok for a dd command? I am going to
burn kernel 5.10 to a usb stick.
239 [04:18:09] <Urk> dd if=/dev/ada0 of=/dev/adb0 bs=256K sync
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241 [04:21:37] <nkuttler> no idea what those devices are, or what
a kernel alone one a stick should be good for
242 [04:22:16] <cws> That's bsd device naming.
243 [04:22:33] <cws> Urk: What are you trying to achieve,
exactly?
244 [04:23:30] <Urk> cws: Burn an ISO to a USB
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246 [04:23:57] <Urk> I need to reinstall Kernel 5.10.0 on my
other machine next to me.
247 [04:24:10] <Urk> My live CD is only 4.19 which is tool old
for this machine.
248 [04:25:35] <cws> And you're on a BSD system currently?
249 [04:26:40] <Urk> cws: No, Linux. But the computer is
painfully slow, a 32-bit system, on a legacy machine that is 20
years old. The one next to me is a Dell XPS 15 7590.
250 [04:26:57] <cws> Then that is definitely not valid dd syntax.
251 [04:27:16] <cws> I assume you've downloaded the ISO
file?
252 [04:27:18] <Urk> cws: What is valid?
253 [04:27:45] <cws> And I can promise you that an XPS 15 7590
can boot from 4.19.
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255 [04:28:48] <Urk> cws: During the last install, I found XPS
could boot from 4.19, but it wouldn't run the wifi. I had to
install 5.10 or the wifi wouldn't work. I don't have a
special ethernet capable for this machine so I am going to do it by
usbtion.
256 [04:29:11] <Urk> Ignore the tion at the end of the last
sentence. My manual dexterity is lagging tonight.
257 [04:29:12] <cws> I never needed 5.10 for wifi on my 7590,
soo...
258 [04:29:24] <Urk> You have an XPS?
259 [04:29:28] <cws> Exact same one, yes.
260 [04:29:56] <Urk> cws: I like the screen brightness which is
why I bought it. It is the brightest screen I have ever seen.
261 [04:30:00] <cws>
replaced-url
262 [04:30:11] <cws> You're probably having an issue because
you don't have firmware availalbe.
263 [04:30:18] <cws> Try the non-free iso.
264 [04:30:21] <Urk> cws:
265 [04:30:22] <Urk> yes
266 [04:30:34] <cws> Download the ISO that I just linked you do.
267 [04:30:39] <cws> As for dd syntax, don't.
268 [04:30:41] <Urk> I think I have one already on here.
269 [04:30:57] <cws> cp filename.iso /dev/sdb (or whatever dev
node your USB stick is at)
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295 [05:08:16] <Urk> Would someone have an idea as to what I am
doing with with respect to selecting the correct path? My devices
are listed at the following url
replaced-url
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298 [05:10:55] <Urk> I get the following message dd: failed to
open '/dev/sda5/home/user/Downloads/Firmware/*.*': Not a
directory
299 [05:11:08] <oxek> Urk: can't use dd for that
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301 [05:11:31] <Urk> oxek: What do you recommend?
302 [05:11:44] <oxek> what are you trying to achieve? dd looks
like the wrong tool here
303 [05:11:51] <Urk> cp?
304 [05:12:10] <Urk> I am transferring firmware to /dev/sdc2
305 [05:12:31] <oxek> then the firmware file should be a single
file
306 [05:12:39] <oxek> don't use shell globs (the *
character) there
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308 [05:13:08] <oxek> and an input path of /dev/sda5/home/user...
just looks wrong
309 [05:13:08] <Urk> oxek: I'm on a new machine so the wifi
drivers can't be installed until the firmware is installed.
There is more than one file.
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312 [05:13:33] <Urk> oxek: what do you recommend for a path?
313 [05:13:37] <oxek> in that case, you probably want to copy the
files from one directory, into another directory
314 [05:13:43] <oxek> use `cp` for that
315 [05:13:46] <Urk> ok
316 [05:13:56] <oxek> mount the input directory somewhere, and
mount the output directory somewhere, and then copy
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333 [05:31:50] <Urk> oxek: Which of the sda1 partitions do I want
to transfer from? I just got an error message "unknown file
system when attempting to copy.
334 [05:32:11] <oxek> where are the firmware files?
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336 [05:32:36] <cws> Urk: Did you try the debian iso that
includes the firmware files?
337 [05:32:57] <cws> Instead of trying to manually add them?
338 [05:33:00] <Urk> cws: Not in the past two weeks, but two
weeks ago they didn't work.
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340 [05:33:18] <cws> You didn't indicate that you tried it
at all when I told you to try it previously.
341 [05:33:27] <cws> The non-free iso I linked you to before?
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344 [05:33:56] <Urk> This is the path to the firmware dd: failed
to open 'home/user/Downloads/Firmware/'. There are two
.deb files, and a .gz file in this folder
345 [05:34:05] <cws> That's not at all what I told you to
try.
346 [05:34:19] <cws> Download the iso that includes the firmware
and try that FIRST.
347 [05:34:44] <Urk> Unless this was a new file uploaded in the
past month then it doesn't work.
348 [05:34:59] <Urk> Instructions in Arch indicate it is a hard
wire install only, and that it can't be done by wifi.
349 [05:35:09] <cws> Last I checked, this is #debian.
350 [05:36:30] <Urk> oxek: /home/user/Downloads/Firmware
351 [05:36:33] <cws> Urk: And to be honest, so far, nothing that
you've said or asked gives any confidence that you actually
tried the non-free ISO.
352 [05:36:56] <cws> So start there. Download the non-free ISO,
write it to USB, and attempt the install. What you're doing
right now isn't going to work.
353 [05:37:00] <Urk> cws: Definitely tried it. jmcnaught will
vouch for that.
354 [05:37:49] <oxek> Urk: and what's the full command
you're trying to use to copy those files?
355 [05:38:47] <oxek> and nobody in here will vouch for what
you've done, since you're trying to do many things without
fully understanding them, so we can't be sure what's going
on on your end
356 [05:39:13] <cws> Urk: Linus himself could wander in here and
vouch for it, and my response will remain unchanged.
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358 [05:39:24] <Urk> dd: failed to open
'/dev/sda5/home/user/Downloads/Firmware/*.*': Not a
directory
359 [05:39:37] <Urk> cws: Ignore the last post. It was an error.
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361 [05:42:09] <Urk> sudo cp /user/Downloads/Firmware /dev/sdc2
cp: cannot stat '/user/Downloads/Firmware': No such file
or directory
362 [05:42:22] <oxek> yeah that's definitely wrong
363 [05:42:32] <Urk> oxek: What is the right way?
364 [05:42:37] <oxek> /user/Downloads/Firmware definitely does
not exist
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366 [05:42:54] <oxek> at best, it would be
/home/user/Downloads/Firmware/
367 [05:43:02] <Urk> oxek: /user is a sub-folder of /home
368 [05:43:04] <oxek> or ~/Downloads/Firmware
369 [05:43:16] <cws> Then it's /home/user, not /user
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371 [05:43:21] <oxek> Urk: try it and you'll see, `cd
/user/Downloads/Firmware` leads nowhere
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373 [05:43:52] <oxek> and the 2nd issue is that you're
copying directly to a partition /dev/sdc2, instead of some directory
on that partition
374 [05:46:07] <oxek> Urk: we're dealing with an xy problem
here anyway. What are you actually trying to achieve? Install debian
on some system? What's stopping you? And what operating system
are you on right now?
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376 [05:46:24] <oxek> and do you absolutely have to use the
command line instead of some GUI files manager?
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379 [05:46:48] <cws> Buster install to a Dell XPS 15 7590.
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381 [05:47:00] <oxek> that should just work
382 [05:47:14] <cws> It DOES just work.
383 [05:47:22] <Urk> oxek: I'm trying to make a boot stick.
I don't have the ethernet adapter for a USB port.
384 [05:47:22] <cws> I own the same system.
385 [05:47:41] <cws> Download the non-free ISO, cp it to the usb
stick. That's literally it.
386 [05:47:54] <Urk> oxek: I'm trying to make a boot stick.
I don't have the ethernet adapter for a USB port.
387 [05:48:05] <oxek> ethernet adapter for USB port?
388 [05:48:11] <Urk> cws: File is already downloaded. I'm
just trying to get it copied over.
389 [05:48:20] <cws> What file did you download?
390 [05:48:21] <cws> Exact name.
391 [05:48:40] <Urk> oxek: yes, Dell makes a unique ethernet
adapter for a USB port. There are others on the market, but not
nearly as fast as Dell's device is pricy, and cost $45
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393 [05:48:59] <oxek> you mean the XPS 15 doesn't have an
ethernet port, and so you're using some ethernet adapter that
you plug into USB, and the debian installer doesn't have
firmware for this adapter, so you need to include those firmware
files?
394 [05:48:59] <cws> Any USB3 Ethernet adapter will work. There
is nothing unique about Dell's.
395 [05:49:17] <cws> I think wifi is the concern, here.
396 [05:49:19] <oxek> if that's the case, then you just need
to use the non-free iso image, and it will just work
397 [05:49:29] <cws> Urk: What file did you download? Exact name.
398 [05:49:52] <oxek> dell is horrible if they no longer have
ethernet ports on laptops
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400 [05:50:08] <cws> Most thin-and-lights don't have
ethernet ports anymore.
401 [05:50:27] <oxek> the future sucks
402 [05:50:41] <Urk> oxek: They use a new technology which works
the same. I looked it up.
403 [05:50:52] <cws> There's nothing new about USB Ethernet
adapters.
404 [05:51:01] <cws> Neither USB nor Ethernet are new
technologies.
405 [05:51:08] <cws> Urk: I'm still waiting on the answer to
my question.
406 [05:51:18] <Urk> cws: /media/user/d-live nf 10.8.0 xf amd64/
407 [05:51:36] <cws> That is not a valid filename.
408 [05:51:48] <cws> Please download the ISO here.
replaced-url
409 [05:52:14] <Urk> cws: That is already on my memory stick, and
I am just trying to copy the firmware, and wifi to a different file
system.
410 [05:52:23] <cws> That's not how this works.
411 [05:52:30] <cws> Download the ISO that I've linked you
to.
412 [05:52:44] <Urk> The live cd on my boot stick boots right up.
413 [05:52:53] <Urk> Why redo it?
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415 [05:52:57] <cws> Okay, again, that's NOT how this works.
416 [05:53:05] <Urk> cws: So how does it work?
417 [05:53:08] <cws> So either start following instructions, or
you're entirely on your own.
418 [05:53:23] <cws> Because this whole argumentative thing
you've got going is certainly going to go about as well as
things have so far.
419 [05:53:30] <Urk> What flavor of Debian are you running on
your XPS 15 7590?
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421 [05:53:36] <cws> Buster.
422 [05:53:42] <Urk> stable?
423 [05:53:53] <cws> "Current Debian release is buster"
424 [05:53:58] <budlight> hello
425 [05:54:17] <cws> Urk: So, going to start doing things the
right way, or is flailing in the dark your preference?
426 [05:54:34] <Urk> The only thing I am trying to do tonight is
copy some firmware to a partition. Its a bit late so I am gong to
take up this discussion tomorrow. Much appreciate your help.
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428 [05:54:41] <cws> That's not how firmware works.
429 [05:54:55] <cws> Which is what we've been trying to get
through to you for a while, now.
430 [05:55:04] <cws> Download the non-free ISO, and write it
as-is to your USB media.
431 [05:55:22] <cws> Boot that and go forth. That's the fix.
Stop trying to do your own thing, because it's not going to
work.
432 [05:57:54] <jmcnaught> Urk: last time you installed Debian to
this 7590 you said that you tried the ISO that already includes
firmware, but now I wonder if that was just confusion on your part.
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434 [05:58:25] <jmcnaught> Urk: you do not need to add firmware
to an ISO that already includes firmware, that does not makes sense.
435 [05:59:34] * cws &
436 [05:59:47] <Urk> jmcnaught: Not sure, but the Intel Linux
driver wouldn't work because there was no firmware.
437 [06:00:07] <oxek> "Intel Linux driver"
438 [06:00:09] <Urk> jmcnaught: Other postings on the net
indicate you can not install the OS by wifi.
439 [06:00:20] <oxek> Urk: you're making it very difficult
to help you, since you're not being clear enough.
440 [06:00:44] <Urk> oxek: I'm taking this discussion up
tomorrow because I am going to bed. Really appreciate your help.
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575 [09:18:44] <srged> my cabled desktop has 450Mbps and y wifi
laptop has 48 Mbps. is that normal ?
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583 [09:32:08] <jim> srged, depends on the devices
584 [09:33:06] <jim> (that's not all it depends on, but
those are probably first in line)
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588 [09:38:25] <ratrace> srged: yes.
replaced-url
589 [09:39:40] <ratrace> and it further depends on geometry of
the space where the wifi signal is broadcast, materials,
interference with other EM emissions, etc....
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788 [14:28:29] <Tha-Fox> hi! could someone help me by telling,
what I should do to get /usr/bin/mail to point to a working MTA in
my Debian buster server? I have msmtp and msmtp-mta installed. I
tried to installing bsd-mailx and mailutils, but neither created
/usr/bin/mail. the problem is that for example logwatch can't
send periodic emails, unless I run it with cron one-liner that uses
msmtp directly.
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793 [14:32:29] <Linuks> after the latest update when I disconnect
and reconnect a USB device, it doesn't reconnect the device
anymore. I need to reboot to enable the keyboard and mouse. How can
I fix this? Thank you!
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796 [14:37:06] <dvs> Tha-Fox: update-alternatives --config mailx
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798 [14:38:59] <f8e4> how to update packages with gui?
799 [14:39:06] <f8e4> i forgot program, synpatic sth?
800 [14:39:18] <dvs> synaptic?
801 [14:39:38] <f8e4> ty
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812 [14:53:40] <Tha-Fox> dvs: thank you! now I'm able to try
both bsd-mailx and mailutils and see, which one fulfills my needs
better.
813 [14:53:49] <dvs> np
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823 [15:01:02] <themill> Tha-Fox: it's a while since I
looked at logwatch, but my recollection is that it wants
/usr/sbin/sendmail from any mta, not /usr/bin/mail
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834 [15:17:03] <ychaouche> hello #debian
835 [15:17:13] <ychaouche> how do I ask my host to stop doing
dhcp queries ?
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838 [15:19:02] <GNU\colossus> ychaouche, switch your
/etc/network/interfaces to static or manual config, and/or make sure
to disable DHCP in networkmanager, if you use it
839 [15:19:22] <ychaouche> done first part, don't know about
second part.
840 [15:19:49] <ychaouche> networkmanager is GUI only or is it
used in servers too ?
841 [15:20:43] <GNU\colossus> you can use NM headless. Red Hat
uses it since (I think) EL 8 on server installs, too.
842 [15:21:38] <dvs> networkmanager has a text interface, too
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844 [15:24:25] <ychaouche> no /etc/NetworkManager/ on this
machine so I guess there's none installed
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863 [15:41:20] <hdparm> anyone using cde?
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865 [15:42:24] <ychaouche> hdparm, is that for stats about system
performance ?
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867 [15:43:05] <ychaouche> or is that a desktop environement ?
868 [15:43:20] <hdparm> common desktop environment
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870 [15:43:43] <hdparm> default desktop for solaris 10
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872 [15:45:00] <ychaouche> sends me back 20 years in time
^^'
873 [15:45:08] <hdparm> yup
874 [15:45:15] <hdparm> but its beautiful
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877 [15:45:56] <ychaouche> I wonder if it was the motif toolkit
878 [15:46:20] <hdparm> based on openmotif i guess
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891 [16:02:08] <ychaouche> is there a specific file for snmp
configuration in debian ?
892 [16:02:38] <ychaouche> oh apparently it has to be installed
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920 [16:24:55] <filePeter> Hi, I have rsynced data from one
machine to another. On the source machine, however there have been
some file that I can’t access: rsync: send_files failed to
open "/home/...": Permission denied (13). Is it safe to
assume that all the other data has been synchronised? Or does rsync
just silently fail und stops?
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923 [16:30:17] <ratrace> filePeter: no, rsync doesn't stop
on first error encountered.
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938 [16:49:06] <rudi_s> But it will write all errors to stderr.
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966 [17:35:30] <segamain> IDK if it's a debain problem but:
udisk error-quark,0 input output error when I format usb
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969 [17:36:28] <f-a> hello friendly people
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971 [17:36:49] <f-a> I have bought some headphones+mic headset
for my mobile phone
972 [17:37:12] <f-a> and near the mic there is a button, and
apparently if you press it you can do some stuff on the phone
(accept a call, etc.)
973 [17:37:36] <f-a> Q: how do I know if the button is recognised
on my system? (xorg? something else?)
974 [17:37:39] <f-a> and if so, remap it?
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976 [17:38:30] <segamain> f-a: stop right there that's not a
debian problem, try #android on freenode
977 [17:38:38] <f-a> it is a debian problem
978 [17:38:42] <f-a> as
979 [17:38:56] <f-a> I am using my headphones on Debian 10
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981 [17:38:59] <f-a> sorry if that was not clear
982 [17:39:25] <shtrb> f-a, if bluetooth you can use it with your
D-E
983 [17:39:27] <shtrb> *DE
984 [17:39:48] <f-a> shtrb: no they are wired hps
985 [17:39:52] <f-a> let me see if I can fish the model
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987 [17:41:17] <f-a>
replaced-url
988 [17:41:18] <shtrb> If the headset is connected to your pc how
does it communicate with your phone ?
989 [17:41:32] <f-a> sorry I should have been clearer
990 [17:41:55] <f-a> 1. I see on the phone they send something
else than my voice, as I press the button and the phone does
something
991 [17:41:58] <shtrb> If that's usb , can you give us the
output of lsusb
992 [17:42:08] <f-a> 2. if I plug them to the pc, can I get that
button to work?
993 [17:42:23] <f-a> not usb, mic-in hp-out standard headphones,
hence me being weirded out
994 [17:43:08] <shtrb> It could have it's own firmware (many
usb headset now have it's own firmware), but as that is not a
usb one I have no more information to give you
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1000 [17:50:53] <f-a> thank you shtrb
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1002 [17:55:08] <f-a> shtrb: some more careful duckduckgoing and I
found
replaced-url
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1006 [17:59:40] <Peyam> Hi. I update my debian xfce and now the
desktop disappeared
1007 [17:59:57] <Peyam> the wallpaper disappeared and can not
right click there
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1009 [18:03:57] <segamain> what mouse do you have
1010 [18:04:14] <segamain> probably missing or corrupt firmware
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1018 [18:14:05] <Peyam> hi can someone please help me out?
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1029 [18:25:56] <filePeter> ratrace, rudi_s: Thanks for your
answers two hours ago, regarding rsync.
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1032 [18:38:26] <shtrb> What would be the proper way to try to
perform an authntication on a sim card (EAP_SIM in wpa_supplicant)
if the sim card is inside an interface that expose AT command
interface to debian ? (Huawei LTE wingle )
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1034 [18:38:41] <shtrb> (*) I'm trying to use WiFi Calling
from linux
1035 [18:38:57] <thefunkyspaw> Hi all, I'm running Debian
Testing w/ Cinnamon DE. It appears that Cinnamon DE is overriding my
XKB configuration set via /etc/default/keyboard. Can anyone point me
in the direction of docs describing this behavior?
1036 [18:39:04] <shtrb> !testing
1037 [18:39:04] <dpkg> Testing is a continuously updated release
between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed
<bullseye>. See
replaced-url
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1039 [18:39:48] <thefunkyspaw> Oops, thanks for the lead
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1042 [18:42:40] <segamain> dpkg: are you a bot ?
1043 [18:42:40] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a
finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot
(that you should not abuse).
1044 [18:42:57] <segamain> :D
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1046 [18:44:21] <shtrb> And at that point you have no way of
knowing , if that's really a bot or an AI that try to fake and
let you think it's just a bot
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1093 [19:54:20] <ThothK> Hello People
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1140 [21:03:07] <dostoyevsky> hmmm... I cannot install docker
according to the installation description: # apt update # Err:4
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1142 [21:03:12] <dostoyevsky> (debian buster)
1143 [21:03:53] <dostoyevsky> (error message for `apt update'
is: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the
public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7EA0A9C3F273FCD8)
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1146 [21:05:03] <jmcnaught> dostoyevsky: don't add the
keyring to /usr/share/keyrings, it belongs in
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
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1150 [21:07:36] <dostoyevsky> jmcnaught: so I changed it: # curl
-fsSL
replaced-url
1151 [21:08:08] <dostoyevsky> `apt-get update' -> W: GPG
error:
replaced-url
1152 [21:08:12] <dostoyevsky> same error
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1154 [21:08:27] <dostoyevsky> I guess they broken the key
somehow... on the docker side
1155 [21:08:35] <kouett> hello, I've got a problem with an
iscsi target and systemd. systemd tries to mount fs as if it was
local, so before starting network and iscsid. adding _netdev and
x-systemd-requires in fstab doesn't change anything
1156 [21:09:01] <kouett> the mountpoint of the iscsi fs is /var
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1159 [21:09:12] <dostoyevsky> Because I've been using
replaced-url
1160 [21:09:19] <kouett> does anyone here already encountered this
problem ?
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1171 [21:19:32] <kouett> (I don't know if I explained
everything clearly enough, tell me if you need more insight)
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1205 [22:07:05] <ratrace> kouett: what's the exact fstab line
you're using? do you have a circular dependency where some
services requires paths from that mount point?
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1208 [22:09:31] <kouett> ratrace, yes I have some services which
requires this path (it's /var)
1209 [22:10:20] <kouett> many blog articles suggest to write a
systemd .automount and .mount file for this
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1211 [22:10:47] <kouett> (that's what I'm testing
currently)
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1213 [22:11:33] <ratrace> technically, fstab is converted to
individual .mount units so I'm not sure if that would help.
It's more likely that you'll need to tweak those service
dependencies to they don't start before the network
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1215 [22:12:13] <kouett> oh ok I see
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1217 [22:12:39] <kouett> but the real problem is that systemd
doesn't honor the _netdev or x-systemd.requires=iscsid in my
fstab
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1219 [22:13:10] <kouett> (i.e tries to mount the filesystem
_before_ iscsid.service is started)
1220 [22:13:26] <kouett> despite specifying it as dependency
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1224 [22:15:43] <kouett> ok so my fstab entry is: UUID=(redacted)
/var
_netdev,x-systemd.after=network-online.target,x-systemd.requires=iscsid.service,ext4
rw 0 2
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1244 [22:30:02] <kouett> Also when I was using a systemd mount
unit I had a 'Failed dependency' on it but I can't
find why
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1255 [22:38:02] <kouett> basically the boot sequence is: systemd
tries to mount /dev/sda1, it timeouts
1256 [22:38:02] <kouett> then starts network and iscsid
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1258 [22:38:39] <kouett> both with a mountfile and fstab
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1261 [22:41:13] <kouett> ratrace, I know this issue is pretty
specific but I'd like some pointers on how I could debug
systemd boot process to see what's going on with deps
(eventually submit a bug report to debian if needed)
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1281 [23:11:46] <argusBR> how to solve problem
replaced-url
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1291 [23:19:37] <oerheks> the error is clear; run a fsck on sda2 ?
1292 [23:19:43] <oerheks> with a live iso
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1296 [23:22:08] <sadako> How do I fix that my syslog isn't
rotating? It's like 5GB right now and my system is only 9GB
total.
1297 [23:23:01] <sadako> I have it set up in logrotate already.
1298 [23:23:29] <sadako> Well wait, is there a way to see when the
file was last rotated, or created? I see a Mar 21 date on ls for it
but that's probably last modified.
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1303 [23:26:25] <sadako> I added 'maxsize 100M'
hopefully that does it.
1304 [23:28:00] <sadako> do I need logrotate in cron or something
for it to be running?
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1307 [23:30:19] <sadako> it's in cron daily. I guess
that's okay.
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1309 [23:31:43] <sadako> Okay I ran `sudo /usr/sbin/logrotate
--force /etc/logrotate.conf` and now the 5GB file is syslog.1. How
do I make that one be compressed?
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1313 [23:32:54] <sadako> I have compress and dailycompress options
in the syslog block already.
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1322 [23:40:21] <ivan_wagner_ml> is there a way to allow access to
newer versions of Emacs from more uptodate distro version such as
bullseye, besides compiling it by myself before distro upgrade?
I'm asking particularly for emacs package. Reporting from 10
buster.
1323 [23:42:00] <jmcnaught> ,v emacs
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1325 [23:42:35] <jmcnaught> ivan_wagner_ml: the bot appears to be
gone but emacs 27 is in buster-backports:
replaced-url
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1327 [23:46:22] <ivan_wagner_ml> thank you, it worked
1328 [23:46:59] <ratrace> kouett: that's an invalid fstab you
pasted.
1329 [23:47:58] <ratrace> it's missing filesystem. and srsly?
redacting fs UUID? that's a random string you know. zero
privacy or security issues.
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1333 [23:49:23] <kouett> yeah, redacting the disk uuid was maybe a
bit pointless :p
1334 [23:49:38] <cws> It was so pointless that it made a sphere.
1335 [23:49:49] <cws> ;)
1336 [23:50:06] <kouett> I must have failed pasting, cos mount -a
works...
1337 [23:50:24] <kouett> I'll try tomorrow with fsck field to
0
1338 [23:50:27] <ratrace> cws: lol
1339 [23:51:50] <kouett> I suspect fsck field to 2 may be the
source of the problem (every tutorial I see has fsck field to 0)
1340 [23:52:12] <cws> 2 is a valid entry.
1341 [23:52:25] <ratrace> and completely irrelevant for the
problem
1342 [23:53:00] <ratrace> kouett: I'd add "nofail"
to that list of options so that the boot doesn't hang up on
failure. then when it boots, look through the journal for any issues
involving the mountpoint, they're most likely logged.
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1344 [23:54:31] <ratrace> afk
1345 [23:54:36] <kouett> ok, thanks ratrace and cws for your help,
I'll do that and keep you updated (I'll test this
tomorrow)
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