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7 [00:02:49] <serende> hi, I've installed debian stable
about a month ago, more or less. I'm thinking about mitigating
to testing and I'm wondering whether this step generally
creates issues or fairly safe
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12 [00:04:50] <serende> if it's not unsafe, how can I
switch to testing?
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15 [00:07:20] <burek> i just installed testing
16 [00:07:23] <burek> seems fine for now
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19 [00:08:40] <serende> nice burek :)
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21 [00:09:08] <burek> testing is like rolling release
22 [00:09:16] <burek> it still gets security updates, afaik
23 [00:09:20] <burek> and everything else
24 [00:09:28] <burek> its just latest version of software
25 [00:09:56] <bazhang> testing/unstable: #debian-next
(irc.oftc.net
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27 [00:10:21] <bazhang> burek, ^
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29 [00:11:17] <burek> ktnx bro
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31 [00:11:30] <bazhang> npx
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33 [00:13:10] <serende>
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37 [00:14:46] <burek> maybe through /etc/apt/sources.list
38 [00:14:48] <burek> ?
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44 [00:15:41] <serende> yeah
45 [00:15:46] <serende> reading about it now
46 [00:16:19] <burek> or, maybe not the best way, but through
synaptic?
47 [00:16:32] <burek> might be even easier
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50 [00:18:01] <PYE-mx295> hello
51 [00:18:19] <PYE-mx295> does debian have a version that tracks
RHEL?
52 [00:18:32] <bazhang> PYE-mx295, why would it
53 [00:18:44] <PYE-mx295> ie do they release a version with same
version of software as an equiv RHEL
54 [00:18:56] <PYE-mx295> bazhang, for enterprise level
compatability?
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57 [00:20:22] <annadane> debian's packages are pretty much
upstream packages a lot of the time which centos/rhel probably
borrow from as well
58 [00:20:36] <annadane> with maybe minor differences across
distributions
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62 [00:22:40] <PYE-mx295> so it does not have a version that
tracks a mainstream enterprise linux?
63 [00:22:50] <annadane> though "enterprise" is a
tricky word depending on what you mean because debian stable only
updates their packages every stable release, aka about every 2 years
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65 [00:24:22] <PYE-mx295> so i should just stick with Oracle
Linux or CentOS?
66 [00:24:48] <annadane> *shrug* never used them and don't
know what your use case is
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72 [00:26:15] <PYE-mx295> i though everyone used RHEL at
somepoint
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74 [00:26:22] <PYE-mx295> whether they liked or not
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90 [00:31:26] <annadane> i guess probably fedora is the
"enterprise distro"
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92 [00:31:34] <annadane> for up to date software
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94 [00:31:47] <annadane> there's also arch, or debian
unstable (which is not a rolling distro as such)
95 [00:32:10] <PYE-mx295> thats hardly enterpirse grade solution
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97 [00:32:15] <PYE-mx295> arch lol
98 [00:32:23] <PYE-mx295> its a toy distro
99 [00:32:36] <annadane> well, fine. just giving you options, i
don't know what you're looking for
100 [00:32:58] <PYE-mx295> im looking for a debian version that
tracks a RHEL release
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105 [00:33:14] <PYE-mx295> ie provides same version of sw as RHEL
106 [00:33:42] <bazhang> PYE-mx295, the exact same?
107 [00:33:52] <PYE-mx295> ye
108 [00:34:10] <bazhang> PYE-mx295, why not ask in a fedora or
centos channel for that
109 [00:34:23] <PYE-mx295> bazhang, for a version of debian?
110 [00:34:31] <PYE-mx295> theyd tell me to ask here
111 [00:34:37] <PYE-mx295> its a debian question
112 [00:34:48] <bazhang> PYE-mx295, for something that exactly
tracks rhel
113 [00:35:06] <PYE-mx295> for a version of debian that tracks
RHEL
114 [00:35:07] <PYE-mx295> ye
115 [00:35:09] <PYE-mx295> dur
116 [00:35:11] <bazhang> no
117 [00:35:19] <bazhang> thats not going to happen
118 [00:35:29] <PYE-mx295> why not?
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128 [00:42:01] <annadane> it's as i was saying, it depends
on how distros handle upstream
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130 [00:42:21] <annadane> debian stable will not ever track
current red hat packages because they're only updated every 2
years in debian stable
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132 [00:42:26] <donofrio> how do I find a repo that host
powerpc32/powerpc64 besty
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141 [00:43:16] <annadane> something like slackware or something
more up to date or debian unstable (especially slackware as
it's source based) will be more likely to match up with current
versions
142 [00:43:28] <annadane> and even then, centos/red hat may
modify those packages slightly from upstream
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144 [00:45:33] <annadane> arch, "toy distro" though it
may be, does have up to date packages
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147 [00:45:59] <annadane> so, whatever, this is basically the
framework of discussion
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203 [01:17:01] <zro> update from jessie -> stretch messed my
offlineimap and --migrate-fmd5-using-nametrans doesnt seem to be
helping it not wanna ul/dl a bunch of old mail, and #offlineimap is
silent. any ideas?
204 [01:17:25] <RockRudy> Anybody here that could help me with
debian issue, please?
205 [01:17:53] <zro> RockRudy: prolly just ask the question.,
dont ask to ask to ask.
206 [01:18:51] <RockRudy> zro: Well. It's more complicated.
First time here. Trying to install openhab2. After running it as a
service through systemctl, it fails to run. But I don't have
skills to troubleshoot it why. I am sure there are error logs to
chase etc.. etc..
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322 [02:14:53] <zokum> ok, i still got bad crc on tcp packets on
one of my nics. tried changing cable and switch port, same result.
more errors on gigabit than 100 and none on 10mbit
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354 [02:30:52] <locodeviant> How to enable GNU Readline in GNOME
Search? Ctrl+E for End-of-Line, Ctrl+A for Beginning-of-Line etc.
I've enabled "Emacs Input" in GNOME Tweaks but the
keybindings does not work under Activities Search. What gives?
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379 [02:43:56] <simpledat> Failed to start Set console font and
keymap. What is this?
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384 [02:47:04] <PYE-mx295> simpledat, just ignore that
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386 [02:47:46] <simpledat> Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the system
crashed before the ppp link was shut down.
387 [02:47:49] <simpledat> What about this?
388 [02:48:42] <RoyK> or just add 'nameservers 8.8.8.8'
to the file
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390 [02:49:50] <simpledat> firmware failed to load
rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw
391 [02:50:11] <simpledat> "Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the
system crashed before the ppp link was shut down." and
"firmware failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw"
392 [02:50:15] <simpledat> Something to worry about?
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394 [02:50:35] <simpledat> RoyK: I already have some nameservers
in there I use
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398 [02:51:37] <simpledat> Do I need the firmware?
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401 [02:53:35] <OUTs1der> stretch, firmware-bnx2 installed,
correct fw file present in /lib/firmware/bnx2/, dmesg still shows
not loaded because it's not found
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403 [02:54:08] <OUTs1der> same for radeon 100 firmware
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405 [02:54:40] <simpledat> OUTs1der: Do I need the firmware?
406 [02:54:53] <OUTs1der> you mean, do I need it, yes
407 [02:55:06] <simpledat> Can you please tell me why?
408 [02:55:18] <OUTs1der> it's a broadcom netextreme 2
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410 [02:55:48] <simpledat> What does it do?
411 [02:56:02] <OUTs1der> it's the ethernet adapter
412 [02:56:07] <simpledat> Is there any security issue by not
running it?
413 [02:56:12] <OUTs1der> so yes, I need it for networking
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415 [02:56:59] <OUTs1der> well, lets put it this way, dmesg sees
the adapter, but can't get it up
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418 [02:57:31] <OUTs1der> so the security issue here is, the box
is now very secure as there is no network attached to it
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420 [02:57:47] <OUTs1der> except for localhost
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422 [02:59:22] <OUTs1der> my question to start with in this case
it, why does it claim the file not to be present when it is ?
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425 [03:02:45] <OUTs1der> and then it went silent
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435 [03:05:30] <OUTsider> lemme pull the dmesg and put output on
an usb in order to upload to pastebin
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456 [03:14:28] <OUTsider> well, it can't be the firmware, as
I actually didn't need it in the previous version (wheezy)
457 [03:14:50] <OUTsider> still a nuisance, but eth0 is detected,
but it won't fire up
458 [03:15:06] <OUTsider> damn, this is going to be a long night
:(
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481 [03:21:51] <PYE-mx295> i installed debian tonight
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483 [03:22:02] <PYE-mx295> first time in like 15 years
484 [03:22:07] <PYE-mx295> god its wank
485 [03:22:27] <PYE-mx295> what the fuck happened?
486 [03:22:59] <RoyK> !ask
487 [03:22:59] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
488 [03:23:40] <ivan> is wank good or bad
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490 [03:24:12] <dvs> bad
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492 [03:24:24] <ivan> I installed debian potato in a VM recently
and I can assure you today's debian is better
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494 [03:25:25] <rpifan> hey i cant seem to get rfkill to unblock
my wlan
495 [03:25:26] <rpifan> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
496 [03:25:30] <rpifan> Soft blocked: no
497 [03:25:32] <rpifan> Hard blocked: yes
498 [03:25:34] <rpifan> the button is pressed and it should work
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501 [03:26:00] <ivan> thanks debhelper I was about to reply to
that
502 [03:26:17] <ivan> now I can just do something else
503 [03:26:19] <PYE-mx295> hmm seems like it was better back in
the day
504 [03:26:27] <PYE-mx295> now its just wank
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506 [03:26:41] <ivan> you might want to offer some more details
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509 [03:28:47] <OUTsider> anyone else able to tell me why the
Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet no longer works in stretch
like it did on wheezy ?
510 [03:29:46] <OUTsider> ifup -a shows it tries to load and fail
on the firmware (RTNETLINK: no such file), on second attempt it says
RTNETLINK: file exists, but won't come up
511 [03:30:20] <ivan> check the journal
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515 [03:31:13] <ivan> maybe you need another nonfree firmware
package?
516 [03:31:26] <ivan> there are many
517 [03:31:28] <OUTsider> ivan, the correct fw file is in the
package
518 [03:31:31] <ivan> ah
519 [03:31:52] <OUTsider> and the fw wasn't needed in wheezy
520 [03:31:59] <OUTsider> but stretch somehow now does
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523 [03:32:39] <OUTsider> the device is recognized: [ 15.224821]
bnx2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-SX
(B2) PCI-X 64-bit 133MHz found at mem f8000000, IRQ 16, node addr
00:15:c5:fe:5c:90
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529 [03:34:14] <ivan> you have firmware-bnx2 installed?
530 [03:34:27] <OUTsider> as I said already, yes :P
531 [03:34:28] <ivan> note not firmware-bnx2x
532 [03:34:34] <ivan> ok
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534 [03:34:44] <PYE-mx295> OUTsider, maybe recomple the kernel
with support for the card
535 [03:34:51] <PYE-mx295> recompile
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538 [03:35:05] <ivan> uh-huh
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540 [03:35:11] <OUTsider> PYE-mx295, it recognizes it !
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543 [03:35:44] <OUTsider> means the support for it is already in
the kernel
544 [03:35:47] <ivan> OUTsider: did systemd rename your network
interface? grep for eth0
545 [03:36:03] <ivan> it might be ens3N or something now
546 [03:36:09] <PYE-mx295> systemd what a cunt of a thing
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548 [03:36:34] <OUTsider> ivan: see my paste about being
recognized, clearly states eth0
549 [03:36:42] <ivan> OUTsider: that's nice, but it can be
renamed later
550 [03:37:20] <OUTsider> wouldn't dmesg then state it did ?
551 [03:37:24] <ivan> yes
552 [03:37:38] <OUTsider> well, I have the entire dmesg output in
front of me, and it did not
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554 [03:38:01] <OUTsider> also, as I stated, when I ifup -a, it
attempt to load the firmware again
555 [03:38:27] <OUTsider> on a second attempt, it states
RTNETLIN: File exists
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557 [03:38:44] <ivan> I'm out of ideas, hopefully someone
knows a thing
558 [03:38:46] <OUTsider> and I can repeat that using ip addr
flush dev eth0
559 [03:39:06] <OUTsider> so yes, basic google foo performed in
order to find an answer
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562 [03:39:43] <OUTsider> and since the upgrade to stretch also
removed the previous kernels, I can't go back to an older
kernel where it DID work
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565 [03:41:32] <OUTsider> can I somehow attempt to perform a
manual firmware load specifying the file ?
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567 [03:42:20] <OUTsider> coz as I said, it exists, but the fw
loader claims it doesn't
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573 [03:43:52] <OUTsider> using debian for 18 years and never had
such issues....
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577 [03:46:35] <aindilis> anyone interested in AI and Debian?
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580 [03:48:16] <OUTsider> not at the moment
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583 [03:49:31] <tensorpudding> Do you need to modify your
partitions, like resizing them and such, or manually adding an EFI
partition, in order to convert the partitioning scheme on a Debian
install on an MBR hard drive to a GPT+UEFI one?
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586 [03:50:48] <tensorpudding> I want to be able to easily
dual-boot my legacy MBR Debian install with a new UEFI+GPT Windows
10 install on a separate hard drive.
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590 [03:52:17] <somiaj> tensorpudding: can the firmware just
support botting both? In this case you could just let the firmware
choose between which drive to boot and if you want to boot uefi or
legacy
591 [03:52:41] <somiaj> but if your old debian install is using
MBR partitions, you cannot convert this to UEFI
592 [03:52:48] <somiaj> (without changing the partition table to
GTP)
593 [03:53:20] <tensorpudding> The firmware can choose, but I
want to have a nice menu option instead of having to machine-gun F11
during boot.
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595 [03:53:46] <tensorpudding> I honestly don't understand
this UEFI stuff and I am interested in not having to at the moment.
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597 [03:54:14] <somiaj> UEFI is nice, but you have to have a new
drive, with a new partition format, then copy the old data to the
new drive.
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601 [03:54:58] <somiaj> tensorpudding: actually you have a second
drive with a GTP partition table and an EFI partition on it already?
602 [03:55:07] <tensorpudding> I had looked at it and it *seems*
gdisk can convert MBR to GPT, but based on what I know about GPT, it
requires more space in the front and rear of the disk.
603 [03:55:55] <tensorpudding> somiaj: There is an old SSD with
an MBR that has Debian installed that I installed in 2014, and a
brand-new SSD that I just installed Windows 10 on, and it defaulted
to UEFI and GPT given my motherboard supports it.
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605 [03:56:21] <tensorpudding> When I installed Debian jessie it
did not make it straightforward to install with GPT and I did not
bother at the time.
606 [03:56:30] <somiaj> you might be able to use grub-efi and
install it on the efi partition of the windows drive, and then have
it use the old MBR partition as root. Since you have two drives and
one already has an efi partition, you maybe able to just install
grub to that efi partition, then use an old mbr partition as /
607 [03:56:47] <somiaj> yea, with debian it depends on how you
boot the installer if legacy or efi is used.
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609 [03:57:48] <somiaj> but you might (I haven't done this),
boot up with some live/recovery system in uefi mode. set up your old
debian isntall in a chroot, chroot into it and install grub-efi and
point it at the same efi partition windows is using. In this case
you may not have to convert the MBR partition to GTP in order to get
grub booting in efi mode for both windows and debian.
610 [03:57:53] <tensorpudding> Does installing grub-efi on the
EFI partition on the Windows drive affect Windows at all?
611 [03:58:13] <somiaj> It shouldn't. That is supose to be
one of the advantages of an EFI partition, easier to dual boot
612 [03:58:34] <somiaj> the efi partition just needs to be big
enough to store both grub and the windows boot info.
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616 [03:59:34] <tensorpudding> I know my needs vis-a-vis kernels
on my current /boot partition are < 100 MB, but I have no idea
how much space Windows is using on the EFI partition.
617 [03:59:43] <tensorpudding> Well, no trouble to check.
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622 [04:00:47] <tensorpudding> Do you need to keep your kernels
in the EFI partition?
623 [04:01:54] <tensorpudding> I have to go though, I'll
research this later. Thank you for your help somiaj
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630 [04:07:02] <happygilmoregent> what is the synaptic pkg mgr?
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636 [04:09:59] <happygilmoregent> does anyone know a good freebsd
channel?
637 [04:11:35] <nkuttler> happygilmoregent: /msg alis help list
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648 [04:14:49] <Canucktux> hello, I have some questions about
making systemd and messing with init
649 [04:14:54] <zu22> which packge has xmkmf? i couldn't
find it with 'apt-cache search'.
650 [04:15:28] <Canucktux> I would like to make a unit file that
changes my xorg.conf bases on system state when I power on
651 [04:15:30] <nkuttler> !tell zu22 about apt-file
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660 [04:19:37] <altker128> Hey guys. I have disabled ipv4tcp
syncookies but I still see "Possible SYN flooding, dropping
request" in dmesg
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663 [04:21:27] <xar-> O_o
664 [04:21:56] <xar-> don't disable syn cookies, who told
you to do that
665 [04:22:16] <simpledat> Do you know why I getting this message
on every boot? "Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the system crashed
before the ppp link was shut down."
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669 [04:24:15] <HeXiLeD> dpkg: vlc qt4 plugin
670 [04:24:15] <dpkg> i haven't a clue, HeXiLeD
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677 [04:27:48] <OUTsider> let's try another kernel image
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680 [04:28:44] <OUTsider> simpledat, do I need this file ?
681 [04:29:07] <ivan> simpledat: that's the name of the
service it's starting
682 [04:29:15] <ivan> simpledat: you can ignore it
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684 [04:29:54] <ivan> it's designed to do the thing it says
it does, because PPP can change resolv.conf
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689 [04:30:29] * ivan wonders if anyone uses PPP here
690 [04:30:44] <OUTsider> ppl living in the desert perhaps
691 [04:30:50] <simpledat> ivan: Why does it say if the system
crashed before the
692 [04:30:52] <simpledat> ppp link
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694 [04:31:00] <simpledat> ivan: My system has not crashed?
695 [04:31:09] <ivan> simpledat: it runs unconditionally
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698 [04:32:20] <simpledat> ivan: Ok thank you
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700 [04:32:26] <simpledat> So there is nothing to worry about?
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704 [04:33:45] <ivan> I hope not
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709 [04:35:18] <RoyK> simpledat: for what do you use ppp?
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712 [04:35:42] <simpledat> RoyK: What is ppp?
713 [04:35:51] <RoyK> point-to-point-protocol
714 [04:35:53] <ivan> simpledat never said he did
715 [04:35:56] <RoyK> or pptp
716 [04:36:35] <awal1> tensorpudding, you must be careful with
win10 future upgrades, it can make your debian unbootable
717 [04:36:57] <RoyK> some crap protocol for vpn developed by
microsot that's still in the "information" track
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718 [04:37:10] <RoyK> it's rather bad
719 [04:37:13] <OUTsider> ivan: solved it
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723 [04:37:30] <ivan> OUTsider: cool, what was it
724 [04:37:38] <OUTsider> ivan: replaced the default 3.2 kernel
with the 4.9 one
725 [04:37:43] <simpledat> RoyK: I installed fresh debian 9
stretch with MATE. Does not PPP include in this?
726 [04:37:57] <ivan> oh, heh, had no idea you were on debian 8
727 [04:38:00] <RoyK> it really shouldn't
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731 [04:38:24] <ivan> OUTsider: or, why did you stretch have 3.2?
732 [04:38:25] <RoyK> you don't need that unless you use
some retarded VPN connection
733 [04:38:34] <OUTsider> actually I was on wheezy to start with,
from there upgraded to jessie, from there to stretch
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735 [04:39:07] <OUTsider> which I kinda mentioned multiple times
in here
736 [04:39:54] <OUTsider> and damn, the speed now booting the
kernel....
737 [04:40:00] <OUTsider> like 10 times faster
738 [04:40:07] <simpledat> RoyK: Like openvpn?
739 [04:40:12] <RoyK> simpledat: yes
740 [04:40:19] <RoyK> simpledat: that is, no
741 [04:40:26] <RoyK> simpledat: openvpn isn't retarded
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744 [04:40:46] <RoyK> simpledat: it just uses http for the
transport - not PPTP
745 [04:40:46] <aindilis> anyone interested in packaging AI
software?
746 [04:40:54] <RoyK> simpledat: PPTP *is* retarded
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748 [04:41:33] <RoyK> aindilis: any particular package?
749 [04:41:48] <OUTsider> thx anyways for the time
750 [04:41:59] <simpledat> RoyK: can I see when and why I
installed PPP?
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752 [04:42:22] <RoyK> simpledat: not sure
753 [04:42:23] <OUTsider> simpledat, you could try to remove it
and see which packages depend on it :P
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755 [04:42:41] <OUTsider> then you know why
756 [04:42:43] <RoyK> simpledat: just uninstall it
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758 [04:42:57] <RoyK> apt-get purge …
759 [04:43:16] <aindilis> RoyK: just the biggest most important
stuff first - I keep a need based queue in Prolog
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761 [04:43:55] <simpledat> OUTsider:
replaced-url
762 [04:44:03] <simpledat> not depended?
763 [04:44:23] <RoyK> aindilis: I guess there's a mailing
list for that - better than asking here
764 [04:44:43] <aindilis> RoyK: which one?
765 [04:44:46] <RoyK> simpledat: libpcap isn't directly
related
766 [04:44:49] <RoyK> aindilis: google it
767 [04:44:57] <aindilis> k
768 [04:44:59] <RoyK> !packaging
769 [04:44:59] <dpkg> See
replaced-url
770 [04:45:18] <simpledat> RoyK: What do you mean?
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772 [04:46:33] <RoyK> simpledat: it's just a package capture
lib - not to worry
773 [04:46:58] <simpledat> why do I have libpcap and ppp
installed on my system?
774 [04:47:10] <RoyK> aindilis: I didn't know people used
prolog anymore :)
775 [04:47:23] <RoyK> simpledat: no idea - it's your machine
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777 [04:47:42] <aindilis> RoyK: the rules of first order logic
and lindstrom's theorem are still true last I checked
778 [04:47:44] <simpledat> RoyK: I told you, its fresh installed
779 [04:48:12] <RoyK> simpledat: strange
780 [04:48:38] <RoyK> simpledat: did you check the iso file
before installing?
781 [04:49:23] <simpledat> RoyK: netinstall
782 [04:49:41] <klys> simpledat, do you have pptpd or pppoe also?
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784 [04:49:51] <RoyK> but then, before you enter
deep-paranoia-mode, just check the iso, signatures etc
785 [04:50:19] <simpledat> klys: How do I check that?
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787 [04:50:31] <simpledat> Package 'pptpd' is not
installed, so not removed
788 [04:50:34] <klys> simpledat, dpkg -l | grep pp
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790 [04:50:44] <simpledat> Package 'pppoe' is not
installed, so not removed
791 [04:50:56] <RoyK> pppoe is part of ppp iirc
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794 [04:51:09] <klys> simpledat, apt-cache showpkg ppp
795 [04:51:49] <RoyK> dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $1
}' will show installed packages
796 [04:51:49] <dpkg> ii | awk '/^ii/ { print $1 }'
will show installed packages 3.1-5.3 royk's private warez
collection
797 [04:51:54] <RoyK> apt-cache won't
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818 [04:55:49] <pde333> I just installed a new debian system
(minimal stretch, upgraded straight to sid) and have a weird issue:
819 [04:55:55] <pde333> virtual terminals are not working
820 [04:56:01] <pde333> chvt works
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822 [04:56:06] <simpledat> dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $1
}' <- what is this for?
823 [04:56:06] <dpkg> No packages found matching | awk
'/^ii/ { print $1 }' <- what is this for
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827 [04:56:43] <pde333> but when I try switching manually
(control-alt-f2 for instance) I get weird character output ^[[26~
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831 [04:57:07] <pde333> I've tried to install systemd's
virtual terminal packages (lots of them), and prod them through
systemctl
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838 [04:58:56] <awal1> pde333, the wise way is stable --»
testing ---» unstable
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881 [05:01:57] <pde333> awal1: :(
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887 [05:02:35] <pde333> will reinstall if I have to, but that
would be a pretty unsatisfying solution
888 [05:02:50] <pde333> to something that seems like either a
systemd or keyboard mapping issue
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891 [05:03:49] <pde333> interestingly, when I did "chvt
2" I didn't get a terminal (and in fact got stuck with a
blank screen and blinking cursor)
892 [05:04:02] <pde333> however if I prod systemd to start that
getty, I can then "chvt 2" to it
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924 [05:15:56] <simpledat> I installed a fresh debian 9 stretch
from netinstall. Now I have ppp and libpcap installed for some
reason. Should I be worried, is anyone trying to hack me?
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942 [05:27:15] <awal1> ,v libpcap
943 [05:27:16] <judd> No package named 'libpcap' was
found in amd64.
944 [05:27:32] <awal1> ppp is arecommend of nm
945 [05:27:57] <awal1> ,v libpcap0.8
946 [05:27:58] <judd> Package: libpcap0.8 on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.3.0-1; jessie: 1.6.2-2; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 1.7.4-1~bpo70+1;
jessie-backports: 1.8.1-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.8.1-3; buster: 1.8.1-5;
sid: 1.8.1-5
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948 [05:28:33] <awal1> nm ---» ppp ---» libpcap*...
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950 [05:29:54] <arosusi> Hello everyone.
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989 [05:39:50] <amigda> <el> I started ##feminism because i
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995 [05:39:50] <amigda> <el> I started ##feminism because i
think most white men are pigs: mdroid xaero hex2a kolla DXR
Guest36146 Colti padroneas koenvg valerius vook_ blackwell shabius
loddfafnir vegenaise kunwon1 argusbr password4 homegrown iCherry
nprs lebster rogst atf `z craysiii hicks_ r0bby MrDetonia ArKane
DarkG DustyDin1o Aix_ kevy0 Kobaz kallesbar dtux Diaoul BaW
AWindowsKrill jgornick hagabaka ksft JCaesar n0nada lappet ihre
dinoocch subpath nezZario
996 [05:39:50] <candic> ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE
CAREFUL!!: RaiNerTsuFal baba_ sjk1 dexta LeandroLuiz ledeni
danwellby atf afx237 jdn_ lrvick t0ne ToToL flyingkiwi gacekjk mda1
mcint Junaos SerajewelKS BotaniCar Mrloafbot_ mypapit nikow meti
seyeongkim Kamilion Brumbazz sayo- Zerant- Andreas33 SirCmpwn oliva
Danielss89 dym AvatarA Cisien cbdev Graypup_ t FinalX dadinn
roshanavand kocubinski hexhaxtron BlackPanx berndj SporkWitch
Halcy0n coolchris vamiry
997 [05:39:50] <candic> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY
CHRISTEL: Guest20032 ibttis ibex cheeseboy crayon lift scc eb0t_
nyaomi ProfessorKaos64 infernix kchr_ BlackPanx grumble ghostyyy
HugsWontletgo Trellmor Puckel_ Adbray RickXy bkraptor lappet
RyanKnack leochill sloucher AxForest poeticrpm abracadaniel komori
kini digdilem vizzy_zzz kallesbar cymen styks1987 Arsiesys Galihom
somnambler dysfigured sztelke Gurty ponyofdeath Willis haircode
mypapit Pugabyte Natrick mz` san
998 [05:39:50] <amigda> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: abra0 barteks2x daemonkeeper mzf klys
Doldge puzzlingWeirdo daishan James_T yuastnav FoolishOwl
webuser5224 pagios Downer Ralin3 stu_meat percY- ghostyyy seyeongkim
Iridos nopf nicdev timeless Apeiron` danwellby devbaka__ leibniz
sussudio lukky513 sugarfr trench syamaoka DK2 n arosusi EnergyCoffee
cnu- Relicka Kobaz braingain FinalX ffernand peterandre Diaoul
mumixam GJdan thoros
999 [05:39:50] <husba> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: Schmiel Peetz0r jocthbr Dave[m]1
nyuszika7h GeraldW SleePy Groenleer DzAirmaX Incepti0n AvatarA
FoolishOwl zululee soahccc coderphive Cueball dixie7z_ sidmo_
neechan ghormoon Purec abra0 Hachya mxh_ SkIzZaTo Swant
cryptodan_mobile jesopo do0m bionix noahfx cyberzeus ahf_ tomodachi
PlasmaStar breitenj nwe iTeV mdroid totonika hipp eXcept p0rt thoros
dinoocch Gaxpaxxo bobe berndj Blanco
1000 [05:39:50] <MAHIN> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
disi ScottE sistematico kwmiebach BroTroxer jpic apollo13 zululee
ponyofdeath Adbray steveeJ sander85 mukmuk richvdh Se-bash Wotac
ariador mumm DarkDevil Masaomi[m] boxrick s0ph0s dustinm` JPT
TriJetScud iflema Cerise Nazara jssjr olegfusion pcdummy Malinux
shel shannara_ television aesin kirb brouette professorp6[m] xPucTu4
ageis TReK vvande_ Xyle Guest20032 abra0 xorex jlacroix churnd
Keitaro
1001 [05:39:50] <sempatikm> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING
OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: dirac1 wybczu DarkG Quick_Wango
nighty- pelegreno_ or4n zulu RedSoxFan07 rysiek|pl shadoxx braingain
Attoy citypw lazouz SwedeMike teraflops Lazuruz Alam_Squeeze crash_
Quantumcross jlacroix GrimKriegor preaction muck ephemer0l Marbug_
vook_ DalekSec yeticry _MMx mxh_ CeBe do0m Groenleer admiral0 flipp
stmiller bobe Bercik creichen pfote ksft Xanthor JyZyXEL Kitt
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1003 [05:39:50] <KONS> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: miklcct zmachine Dr-Shadow AndyBlue
n4cht lavenders Jurkki grew Schmiel laddite JCaesar AWindowsKrill
roastedsnowflake xet7 reu bemawi necrogami loeken x10 roylaprattep
db` jesopo BlackPanx barteks2x madonius Red_M amigda lmcloughlin
nopf AlwaysHigh guios ivan kocubinski sander85 idmistir rnix alan_o
Kitty mdorenka leochill breitenj Lal_ blackwell mz` slax0r
Alam_Squeeze slouc
1004 [05:39:50] <MAHIN> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL:
peterrooney f5ck asterismo_l softwa icxcnika_ Sabaku ahf_
sistematico APexil richvdh DarkDevil AvatarA thekingofbandit Renari
elkmoose elysium karstensrage nrs- Church- AndrewMC ibex sjk1
CEnnis91 TvL2386 serban flipp dustinm` tccki webpigeon talin hassoon
devbaka__ DzAirmaX Comstock- ToToL osx edi aaro scoopex evilbug
AndyBlue orb cvr vamiry piklu tarzeau_ NaPs Peetz0r hexnewbie
gareth_
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1007 [05:39:50] <radicaldr> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING
OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: vaidy precise dayten ponyofdeath
sbeyer beaky BroTroxer redrabbit Louis supersoju rysiek|pl Namarrgon
thoros tabris Stummi pokeguylow vectr0n|cloud littlekitty Dj_Dexter
`ryban orbiter SirLagz nitemare Igel xand abff cbdev qoreQyaS
Mysterytrain JC_SoCal Bercik NeilHanlon Amun_Ra quasisane jdn_
mhall119 coruja goberle bluszcz wzyy2 n0nada nux lstanley Infra_3600
1008 [05:39:50] <basilb> <el> I started ##feminism because i
think most white men are pigs: DXR keith4 Muff kingsley leibniz
Aristar fasdfd ToeSnacks eXcept pvn1 hue APLU mreznik flipp
shannara_ bw_ mf|cloud bkraptor Waggie pinnen atomi nobody madonius
mniip serban snadge adellam bitch admiral0 Emmanuel_Chanel cerenous
popnfresh dysfigured Zyferus _0x5eb_ mdroid mos_basik wingman2
Mysterytrain flokuehn sqz babilen Kitty Lal_ AlexZ_ nix-7
mgdelacroix syamaoka pv
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1013 [05:39:50] <basilb> <el> I started ##feminism because i
think most white men are pigs: heinrich5991 Pavr f5ck Riviera
drale2k MoDaX like2k1 soul-d askz Olufunmilayo Sabotender
czarny_ziutek[m] eXcept Marbug_ cbdev colo-work petemc blue olivetre
cateye CEnnis t3eblinder1 dysfigured oberling AlexWkz georgeowell
scc bitch kallesbar r0bby RobertClarke Alam_Squeeze DXR fred`` dudz
Spitfire Namarrgon Poster distantorigin grim4593 Tulah Danielss89
edvb ^v Lazuruz
1014 [05:39:51] <basilb> <dax> idiots like you should not be
in #freenode...: dselect bemawi devurandom test659898[m] orangey
zokum BlackPanx Rockj daishan scc Otyg_ bnw pvn1 hex2a MonsterKiller
vizzy_zzz television bradjones waz0wski Gabemo_ adellam gatekeep
ripdog nhandler roastedsnowflake nezZario padroneas rrva edvb
sekjun9878 Guest40802 CompWizrd kallesbar Incepti0n eliptical
satanist Aebian Bercik ezra-s phaseNi dtux AndrewMC thekingofbandit
homegrown Tex
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1017 [05:39:52] <mumm> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: uxfi dym Natrick Pichet_ DarkDevil atf
pierrot apt bw_ lifeofguenter_ sander85 GGMethos ghost43 dysfigured
Pugabyte MrGeneral james41382 keith4 piklu Trellmor hexa-
Mysterytrain luckman212 Gazooo Noskcaj Ralin3 hsiktas goberle webbyz
tomreyn mirsal_ lan_stuff ChrisH int0x27h Al_lA MeltedLux heurist
m4rCsi vOYtEC sphalerite SpeedBus_ oliva nkuttler darkstalker rawruw
distantorigin roastedsnowflak
1018 [05:39:52] <bjveqx> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY
CHRISTEL: Pichet_ Zerant- slax0r gonyere abff SwedeMike Puckel_
zululee PlasmaStar littlekitty tadz pppktz Relicka heinrich5991
SirLagz stmiller b0b Nefertiti niko parshimers codebam Gaxpaxxo
nobody Cypher100 nshp tremolo babilen padroneas imMute hank
IdleGandalf rOss^64 agresor `slikts breitenj Randy JyZyXEL bendem
beardface gacekjk x10 freanux nurupo JC_SoCal gehaxelt akxwi-dave
mr__tea alexbligh1 sander85 test659898[m
1019 [05:39:52] <bjveqx> ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE
CAREFUL!!: phogg zbert CrazyyMaxx Tempesta t0aster0ven Zerant-
adelyne APexil Graypup_ adellam bitch ilbelkyr levifig grew Rockj
ripdog schmidta gatekeep RT_FM Nawab phantomcircuit zack6849 otih_
darkalia SirCmpwn tomreyn grumble roastedsnowflake mrr0butt eir
Psy-Q AndyBlue pete_ boturk Pedr0 CompWizrd Firztspawn xai babilen
ponyofdeath RH_IO naos62 Guest36146 DLange Amplificator rtur
Hobbyboy meLon WizardGed dos1
1020 [05:39:52] <bjveqx> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY
CHRISTEL: ibttis necrogami askz Nik05 rdleon Texou tuv flokuehn kmd
necrose99_ rax- IdleGandalf yen0p alkyl roastedsnowflake bnw soul-d
daishan Relicka mdroid b0b pokeguylow k-man sugarfr webbyz dsnow_
dinoocch lsv satbyy NeilHanlon Louis [Brain] johnnyfive rumsickle
marens Pedr0 slack_ dusares_ lukasdboer foriin chud CtrlC dtux
mel00010 aaro karakedi pixdamix thoros cyberzeus Noskcaj
1021 [05:39:52] <bjveqx> <dax> idiots like you should not be
in #freenode...: Tempesta xtore babilen simpledat zupzupper musti
Incepti0n AJ_Z0 cmichel_ mirsal_ satbyy bendem turfrex azarus
CissWit tyranny12 sayo- churnd ramshadow jham Sir_Designer__ otih_
zokum SleePy Letze_ donut_ professorp6[m] pete_ BrainDommage n4cht
_MMx K1rk bove tadz tomash duckydan lsv Galihom muck dysfigured
preaction MoDaX qoreQyaS verm1n gardar totonika snkcld jpic Gurty
ckuehl
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1023 [05:39:55] <mumm> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL:
SleePy tekmo Rubin wzyy2 MuffinMedic skney cerenous sander85 kdragon
Jdbye pagios pete_ Apteryx ssgelm mihaicmn_ k-man somnambler ledixus
dselect RH_IO moritz__ pvoigt gehaxelt akxwi-dave pyllyukko sniku__
Nefertiti abff sekjun9878 mirsal_ daemonkeeper olivetree_ fnkr
trewas jdn_ nadley adellam DustyDin1o n-st otih_ ehlodex pierrot
gftg fasdfd sdx23 krzych shahri ihre dtux testing214[m]
1024 [05:39:55] *** Quits: mumm (~mumm@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1025 [05:39:56] <shel> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE
OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: uwd_ Emmanuel_Chanel darkalia
Spiffy jgornick roastedsnowflake Peetz0r popnfresh eir CompWizrd
k-man nobody nicoulaj vaidy Pseudo pagios infernix Digz DzAirmaX
GNU\colossus kerrh mumixam wzyy2 nhandler Malinux blue ksk msev-
bfit spanglesontoast Sabotender ffernand Blanco nux Miss_Cosmo
civillian `ryban ripdog barteks2x austin987 Otyg_ cmichel_ jmcnaught
Robby Schmiel Deflate HeXiLeD
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1029 [05:40:05] *** Joins: hotGue (~hotGue@replaced-ip )
1030 [05:40:06] <Chic> <dax> idiots like you should not be
in #freenode...: scc r0bby lionheartActual amospalla djanos nkuttler
Puckel_ lifeofguenter_ fearnothing gvvg__ yen0p kmd jhebden Savemech
gareth__ SerajewelKS epony neechan Gazooo gonyere MeltedLux
EnergyCoffee Scotteh guerby nicdev ksk Iridos nevyn lift KNERD
Orochimarufan dbristow hessu padroneas eps _rubik Gransy nwe
LightAmaze jrj Swant reallycooldude Danielss89 brw dellhell Se-bash
s0lar1s Sir_Designer__ foul_owl Mathisen
1031 [05:40:06] *** Joins: sed (~sed@replaced-ip )
1032 [05:40:06] *** Quits: Chic (~Chic@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1033 [05:40:06] <se> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL:
scyte grandfso rogst bigpresh SirLagz gr4yscale petemc Jdbye
Nefertiti mibo n4cht Letze_ moritz__ bnw Rhuarc padroneas swordsmanz
hank Wotac mundus Andreas33 MACscr sunkan mos_basik simpledat noodle
Mikail Ishaq qoreQyaS cobr rakor Noskcaj qzo epony Blanco lchlan bcd
modlin bertbob Asoka enki SkIzZaTo ijmad Clouder test659898[m]
pokeguylow GNU\colossus andhoy vvande_ bobe
1034 [05:40:07] *** Quits: se (~se@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
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1036 [05:40:16] <RoyK> !ops
1037 [05:40:16] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops
$problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific
problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be
contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
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1041 [05:40:21] <jack_hark> <dax> idiots like you should not
be in #freenode...: kline x10 spanglesontoast DustyDin1o
ShapeShifter499 skney Enrico_Menotti TuxShells admiral0 thurin
milobit monty Commander1024 SerajewelKS Malinux NeilHanlon
Guest20032 kini jelly brouette corretico wybczu de-facto subpath
czarny_ziutek[m] _MMx roastedsnowflake xaero qtch Trellm Marlon
mgdelacroix nathanhi dinoocch hayer_ adi alxd namix glennb xai
sugarfr konimex magyar darkalia alexbligh1 webbyz mo
1042 [05:40:22] *** Quits: jack_hark (~jack_hark@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
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1051 [05:40:32] <softwa> ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE
CAREFUL!!: cyphix_ rtur qqx banging_ swordsmanz boturk stu_meat
cooldude blacksyke pete_ Janhouse snw konimex Schmiel f3bruary
GrimKriegor binary106 spooky roger_rabbit BlackPanx x10 r0Oter
kculpis Nawab skagerak password4 Schmantinski wybczu atf AndrewMC
VBrain yeticry masber parshimers dayten roylaprattep JZTech101
leochill b0l3x Rhuarc tangarora Alchemical dave0x6d tobias1 mastensg
Dave[m]1 iTeV kocubinski Louis mf
1052 [05:40:32] *** Joins: nat (~nat@replaced-ip )
1053 [05:40:32] *** Quits: softwa (~softwa@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1054 [05:40:32] *** Joins: qeqsgb (~maci@replaced-ip )
1055 [05:40:35] <r0bby> uh-oh special ed let out
1056 [05:40:35] *** Quits: hotGue (~hotGue@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1057 [05:40:37] <CtrlC> Almost 2018 and still this idiots exist!
1058 [05:40:38] *** Joins: guest895 (~guest895@replaced-ip )
1059 [05:40:38] <agresor> <dax> idiots like you should not
be in #freenode...: ^v Nothing4You infernix bolt Pseudo APLU JPT
bfit Hobby_boy thoros cymen TimWolla Igel relaxed rax- austin987
Gransy verboese sandeepkr Andrew_0010bit CrazyEddy JStoker clopez
popnfresh sirecote BbT0n CrazyyMaxx nshp pseubodot skza benjen
Doldge dxrt MuffinMedic noexcept cyboman33 craysiii pagios cryptic
adc ryouma g4spr0m breitenj bardkorren m4rCsi sqz kmd Janhouse
homegrown Velgor
1060 [05:40:38] *** Quits: agresor (~agresor@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
1061 [05:40:43] <Digz> aww.... all I wanted for Christmas was a
highlight! Thank you Santa Claus!
1062 [05:40:45] <sugarfr> <dax> idiots like you should not
be in #freenode...: tripkin inaki vOYtEC precise solos jiffe `ryban
laddite orangey bcd Otyg_ kculpis ehlodex lufeng evotopid hmpf1 orb
tw atwar crayon jeddi Trieste Roedy grumble sielicki Guest4726
chaosdav eck m4rCsi arha gluon CME peterrooney mossman Ericounet
llimeht LambdaCalculus37 sparty kdragon flokuehn seank_ sobkas
sydney_untangle guardian Zharf TacoGS_ runde Keridos luz1 bazhang
1063 [05:40:45] <sugarfr> <el> I started ##feminism because
i think most white men are pigs: Piper-Off Marbug_ F14W3D Igel
thecliguy baum b0l3x Nefertiti GhostInTheShell austin987 elysium
cbdev Brumbazz ledeni freanux Poster antismap RoyK dooglus
aliasnumber13 introom msantana hmpf1 Raed natr0x darkalia Anarchic
Toffe ryouma jonathan_ Butt3rfly Galihom Shahnaz- larjona hank
Deflate RichiH dvs sydney_untangle stu_meat phebus peterandre
Mysterytrain hiya wzyy2 Modeuse likcoras civillia
1064 [05:40:45] <sugarfr> <el> I started ##feminism because
i think most white men are pigs: austin987 nagetier exezin beaorn
Church- Piper-Off dka chen ghost43 brem cendo radicaldr dpkg funnel
fnmueller TriJetScud dadinn Logg Renari gregf pingveno boubou
swordsmanz MrDetonia bcd strungout leochill ramshadow UukGoblin pron
arha Downer ineiros jdn_ bionix alxd xand blackwell zwamkat_ Otyg_
int0x27h Hydrastra dubwoc jhill fasdfd ra1stlin swaechter crash_
iCherry edwardly
1065 [05:40:45] <sugarfr> ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE
CAREFUL!!: abra0 cvr jakew coolchris dixie7z_ Almtesh richvdh
nomad_dw cheeseboy t0ne Nazara chaosdav BbT0n Lady_Aleena iskatu
platicus2 toadstar miklcct jcarpenter2 toruvinn dwar melvin
peterandre Quantumcross tyranny12 Loomaanaatii orbiter allu2 Robby
ThomasJ|d bertbob Sleepy63 mel00010 m4dh4tt4 exezin Poster AimHere
eldritch smidlers Epakai max-m GhostInTheShell rr Deviance lkolstad
Obi-Wan torrezno Dezponia[m] nage
1066 [05:40:45] <sugarfr> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: sputnik hipodils1i Mrloafbot_ ehlodex
blackest_mamba martybr phinxy LordLamer roylaprattep swaechter
thecoffemaker cendo oberstein Hydrastra Guest93468 alxd karlamrhein
disi rolig systemdave edvb tekmo ArchDuke adds68 jhq mundus T_Karras
gr4yscale richvdh pyllyukko iter jmyrv Python1320 AlwaysHigh benj_
alreece45 fiet ghostyyy gmh AimHere CrazyEddy nathanhi Gurty JyZyXEL
Dollar Otyg_ ilbel
1067 [05:40:45] *** Quits: sugarfr (~sugarfr@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1068 [05:40:51] *** nat is now known as Guest9872
1069 [05:40:53] <yuc> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE
OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: schornacht brouette xcin
BotaniCar joh HeXiLeD mr__tea GGMethos hikiko kriskropd lift tharkun
fearnothing nauticalnexus typosaurus Digz jannic tiwake Gurty
craysiii argusbr karstensrage dadinn otih_ benklop ripdog benf
JasonO t0aster0ven ihre systemdave necrogami namix tw SPF Anarchic
imMute somnambler austin987 ToeSnacks Zardoz Hijiri Immanuel
lord_helmet bobe Xyle ephemer0l NickyP Colti
1070 [05:40:53] <yuc> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
Zardoz x10 gonyere CrazyyMaxx bardkorren Alam_Squeeze kchr_ neskau
Tr4sK Mathisen nhandler ogi tekk james41382 benjen bier funnel
masber allu2 oberling preaction ron-slc Aristide ageis clopez
nezZario PIBER simon_q apt adc sputnik shadoxx cybrNaut mzf
sphalerite aaro gildarts cthuluh eir mrr0butt ibttis profall Ad1Tech
cnu- johnnyfive chaosdav jrabe leachim6 fatalis rudi_s
1071 [05:40:53] <yuc> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE
OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: ibttis petn-randall freanux
ForceRecon vvande_ GGMethos Anarchic Al_lA morphis__ Energy
Nefertiti cvr kward Cabanossi DarkDevil dings Galihom fyrril max-m
bardkorren yuastnav Andocromn Iridos Soliton czarny_ziutek[m]
thecliguy brouette riddle ribasushi n4cht rlange AndyBlue gehaxelt
BlackPanx tobiw Tom-_ skza thalos musca sbeyer hex2a DXR SkIzZaTo
stealthii subpath romana berndj lifeofguen
1072 [05:40:53] <yuc> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
rook2pawn ToeSnacks swordsmanz mihaicmn_ testing214[m] Guest55057
sn0wmonster jeddi qtch HurricaneHarry nevyn IdleGandalf bier sc_
Roger9 JasonO teej scc Digz Ad1Tech MACscr komugi Pwnna krytarik
Mysterytrain Len nux mel00010 Warrigal SerkanDevel[m] rozie tacocat
fred`` dusares_ orangey Mathisen boturk flokuehn turfrex lstanley
AlexZ_ ponyofdeath mdroid x10 piklu gftg DLange nutron|w bureado
Hachya
1073 [05:40:53] <yuc> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO
IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: mindstorm Cypher100 chud ckuehl `ryban
AlexWkz zymurgy ijmad yeticry m4rCsi mhall119 eb0t qzo cmichel_
GGMethos tomreyn shabius Rubin Miss_Cosmo Namidairo gratuxri Crash
swordsmanz Rockj lebster architekt hsik pugfantus Renari klys
Clouder BlessJah Toris F14W3D mrtadis kmd topi` JyZyXEL MACscr jham
Downer TvL2386 Pavr lbatalha LiENUS n0p_ Church- benf banging_
akxwi-dave
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1075 [05:40:57] <ghostyyy> what in the fuck is sigyn
1076 [05:40:57] <jcarpenter2> oh HI
1077 [05:41:04] *** Parts: brianx (~brianx@replaced-ip ) ("WeeChat 1.9.1")
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1079 [05:41:06] <r0bby> ghostyyy: Spam anagement bot
1080 [05:41:09] <jcarpenter2> i'll take this as excuse to
say, fonts suck
1081 [05:41:10] <r0bby> management*
1082 [05:41:14] <el> ghostyyy: the murderbot that cleans up spam
1083 [05:41:22] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1084 [05:41:26] <jcarpenter2> shucky darns!
1085 [05:41:27] <r0bby> Sigyn: kills spammers
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1094 [05:41:32] <webbyz> but what's the point of those bots?
1095 [05:41:33] <ghostyyy> m-murderbot???? D:
1096 [05:41:41] <Scope6> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: toozej bendem jhill satbyy jlacroix
Marlon Aristide enki michaelni installibre Zyferus monoxane r0bby
syamaoka Brian- ssgelm JasonO drale2k bemawi Nefertiti daishan
de-facto grepper Stummi karakedi mukmuk DoctorD90 rogst jrabe
Piper-Off dak Infra_3600 hsiktas roshanavand yang-X DaVinciCode1
planetmaker stefanc_diff loeken AlexWkz Schmiel lsyoyom el pixdamix
rumsickl
1097 [05:41:41] <[CFLe> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL:
lrvick linuxdaemon Kamilion ToeSnacks SirCmpwn `Kevin Guest55057
NightKhaos tomodachi iter qzo noxid DustyDin1o hessu Merixer_
grepper jticket K1rk ariador krytarik pmcana morphis__ bluszcz
folivora vvande_ Keitaro fe- raSter^ nux binaryc Ugrastil_ d-fence__
StathisA wingman2 Lazuruz RichiH RH_IO like2k1 borsin nopf ivan
ledixus djanos beaver VBrain epsilon edvb bw_ pvoigt mundus
1098 [05:41:41] <Scope6> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY
CHRISTEL: Cisien rypervenche diniwed m712 fooctrl tonyoy tremolo
gardar wingman2 cateye lebster cobr peterandre nrs- uxfi koenvg
Ring0` thallada Jim[m] Slumlord_ krytarik nikow canvon tekmo yen0p
s7r MichaelSasser kchr_ ksk stefanc_diff Poster GeraldW Profound
shannara_ Texou genpaku jham RichiH DaVinciCode1 Andreas33 kunwon1
deetwelve wyre ihre musalbas gehaxelt altendky bryceml_ Bercik jor
1099 [05:41:41] <Scope6> <el> I started ##feminism because i
think most white men are pigs: juhop adi SwedeMike rudi_s electro33
topi` wybczu shtirlic Attoy Rhuarc mgdelacroix jgornick Renari
Poster Kitty Cueball BaW ryouma makz Junaos rnix magenbrot iCherry
jmcnaught g4spr0m professorp6[m] M3mphiZ scc zbert s7r mirsal_ pk12
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linuxdaemon pr
1100 [05:41:41] <Scope6> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE
OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: ihre HeXiLeD sirecote Dad`
ArKane flyingkiwi sloucher colo-work installibre like2k1 mel00010
Hooloovo0 Jim[m] alxd StephenS dtux Danielss89 zmachine DarkDevil
mirsal_ sander85 duoi fstd qeqsgb xtore vegenaise gftg solos
gr4yscale DXR Iridos madonius dvs Gabemo_ leibniz fred`` rogst
Anarchic tangarora adellam nshp otih_ thekingofbandit nopf SirCmpwn
Red_M au
1101 [05:41:41] <[CFLe> ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE
CAREFUL!!: xand grim4593 Ralin3 beuker lift NightKhaos dadinn nevyn
lebster [q__ sukaeto vvz SM0TVI wingman2 botho sielicki Hijiri
flokuehn Adbray WizardGed yuastnav s7r shabius kirb f5ck m4rCsi
ijmad bemawi BotaniCar pawalls Emmanuel_Chanel Gazooo pixdamix
NickyP Tsutsukakushi soul-d Psy-Q Nach0z schornacht sudhackar_
Dr-Shadow LostSoul adelyne jolt sc_ de-facto Robby wooden HeXiLeD
altendk
1102 [05:41:41] <[CFLe> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
bzed MobileMatt snw kini jandrusk Psy-Q zerocool m4rCsi MACscr
twisted` karlamrhein AndrewMC Ze` Riviera precise Fastolph ron-slc
Renari grew Druid citypw _aeris_ jonathan_ blacksyke TuxShells
wingman2 nrs- turfrex popnfresh SpeedBus_ wooden _bsurfer_ ezra-s
mumixam BlackPanx mihaicmn_ palinuro hassoon Bercik m712 ChrisH
Peterzen Amplificator xcin bnw AWindowsKrill CodeBlue1776
Optimus_Prime shtir
1103 [05:41:42] <[CFLe> <el> I started ##feminism because i
think most white men are pigs: nrs- cmichel_ idmistir Hoosilon atf
AfroThundr zopieux sistematico NeilHanlon Guest55057 jocthbr
jgornick helldorado starev davimore donut_ Relicka dave0x6d kdragon
JStoker banc Diaoul u13 leibniz hank CeBe bitch s0lar1s Halcy0n bobe
Smuckerz bnw cateye Rubin frazr Malinux mypapit AimHere rax- ChrisH
int0x27h ssgelm sidmo_ Ze` qqx peteski tuv nux mzf Ralin3
1104 [05:41:42] <Scope6> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
Cueball folivora tarzeau_ twisted` adc beardy AJ_Z0 `z iflema Furai
tekmo Kilo`byte pseubodot Nik05 GTAXL _0x5eb_ ArKane Anarchic nux
preview StathisA patsToms uxfi Sciuro simon_q greenbagels
distantorigin Infra_3600 makz HotSwap adds68 zyley bobe nickdastain
Letze_ drale2k xand bnw roguelazer tuv x10 dexta xPucTu4 CissWit
t0aster0ven flyingkiwi marens p0g0 jpic chachasmooth_
1105 [05:41:42] <Scope6> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
ryouma tonyoy blitzed musalbas xtore nO0b aaro [E]sc dysfigured
yen0p GrimKriegor darxmurf MichaelSasser ivan blind tacocat lbatalha
cryptic blackmajic planetmaker Profound leochill alreece45
mgdelacroix zack6849 Gurty sloucher blackwell sjk1 nezZario peope
ProfessorKaos64 Relicka Renari codeyaugust heinrich5991 [CFLe
moritz__ Guest4726 futex xPucTu4 Adbray ponyofdeath niko djz88- tuv
integral nhandle
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1107 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY
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mar77i fnkr mavhq typosaurus heap_ Diaoul ephemer0l bureado Red_M
mxh_ sistematico ericnoan stwalkerster barteks2x Dad` gratuxri
thecliguy niko d-fence__ IdleGandalf bkraptor alexlist fleaz nopf
xcin nhandler hammer065 oberling M0nk3y armin Ze` ikevin Piper-Off
ToToL scyte darkstalker fiet TMan459 Rhuarc SpacePenguin oliva
Lady_Aleena cateye rysiek|pl
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1109 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL
THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: Shadowcrit bazhang ikevin
martybr drot Guest93468 aedinius fearnothing noxid styks1987 xtore
TvL2386 melvin tangarora Profound samouy elios sparty CrazyEddy
jddccn synthmeat wolfmitchell Arroyo1010 TmvC Logg Hooloovo0 terr1
otih_ boturk qzo karstensrage Deviance die4i Graypup_ n4cht fauweh
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r00t Schwarzbaer eir sp
1110 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL
THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: himuraken_ ffernand nopf
apollojustice mhall119 NightKhaos yokel lbatalha iCherry gftg kevr
jannic do0m edvb lappet krzych brouette oberstein Megaf BaW db`
Warrigal larjona BlackPanx BotaniCar eXcept stoffepojken ecscg terr1
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Dj_Dexter blackmajic NightShade Hobby_boy koenvg hiyosi Savemech
Ticho p0g0 zarzar2 p0rt OS-
1111 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY
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johanbr adrenaline pmcana doogaille Nawab grinsekatze fearnothing d
Halcy0n ProfessorKaos64 musti LambdaComplex dudz Dan_au dings k-man
fatalis Doldge Aristide Pavr simp dusares_ starev pokeguylow xiqy
SporkWi BroTroxer awal1 ngc0202 sdx23 amanualgoldstein nickdastain
int0x27h pierrot `slikts nauticalnexus Warrigal phebus bigjazzsound
adi hayer_ Guest987
1112 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL
THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: xPucTu4 MoDaX linuxdaemon
Gm4n hessu muck serban {sd}- mumixam dirac1 abra0 _bsurfer_
nyuszika7h Warrigal nickdastain davimore Saar cef tobiw quasisane
mnuhmnuh_ ThoMe Lazuruz Aristide uwd_ lift AndrewMC hipp Crash
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borsin ehlodex bigjazzsound treaki4 HugsWontletgo karakedi w0bni
cryptodan_mobile precise Dave[m]1 ke
1113 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> <emerson> no, I am not a
queer!!: mos_basik shpingrlde ghost43 Raed dayten guios helldorado
davidebeatrici fleaz grew hiroki _bsurfer_ totonika nnyby jlacroix
jannic sniku__ allu2 otih_ Sleepy63 AciD` fstd djanos Natrick
jocthbr hasdf Lazuruz gacekjk himuraken_ lstanley serban rachelfish
blackwell vaidy Nach0z SpeedyG jpic luz1 hmpf1 ponyofdeath trench
shingouz laddite MACscr nadley SporkWi password4 bzed themill beardy
1114 [05:41:42] <ISmokeCra> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL
THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: phantomcircuit ohithere
ffernand ilbelkyr boxrick churnd SQL p0g0 snw rysiek|pl berndj
Enrico_Menotti bobe Profound themill lexruee mar77i krzych Warrigal
tobiw ron-slc tolecnal gusnan synthmeat __hramrach Optimus_Prime
tarzeau_ Poster CompWizrd kanzure Dollar Galihom oberstein imMute
Hooloovo0 situ` gratuxri NotInTheMood jssjr Fastolph mdroid
Dj_Dexter trewas toorop ghost43 g
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1117 [05:41:44] <papel> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE
OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: Deviance Gabemo_ max-m
peterandre grumble sqz LiENUS nO0b rnix imMute jssjr Doldge beaver
lufeng slack_ sbeyer SerkanDevel[m] Rubin adds68 Mazhive mnuhmnuh_
tomreyn Warrigal Hijiri Riviera Emmanuel_Chanel futex zbert[m]
jonathan_ n-st romana tapout yang-X Peetz0r k_sze[work] thblt`
zack6849 iCherry bigpresh xet7 nhandler RobertClarke ryouma
Andocromn heap_ sjk1 armin neskau ghost43
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1121 [05:41:46] <guest555> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
djanos ejsf_ x10 latez Otyg_ dondelcaro gareth__ mnuhmnuh_ qtch
Junaos pmcana DoctorD90 k1412 czarny_ziutek[m] CeBe Comstock-
SwedeMike woky giraffe loeken spanglesontoast Namidairo peterS gftg
syamaoka amospalla blacksyke peope musalbas t SkIzZaTo lsv BbT0n
TuxShells mreznik slicepaperwords futex bezaban mypapit teclo-
ehlodex jonasbits Druid blind jrj prasket simon_q shabius askz
ghostyyy
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1123 [05:41:46] <hamm> <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!:
level7_ pierrot oberling dudz Gransy riddle funnel nezZario slax0r
kallesbar SkIzZaTo DarkG botho goberle supersoju DarkDevil adelyne
serban thalos eb0t_ _bsurfer_ rrva palinuro rudi_s Piper-Off s0lar1s
television hen- churnd peterandre coderphive yonder fnmueller
Andocromn nO0b zopieux ISmokeCra darkstalker pfote afx237
AWindowsKrill kchr_ sparty BroTroxer ksk DustyDin1o redrabbit renzhi
Aristide adr
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1126 [05:41:48] <Church-> Speaking of spam. I'm amused by
opal. Been finding their spam on obscure irc servers now.
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1130 [05:41:49] <ghostyyy> do a cool ascii spam
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1132 [05:41:53] <dkrtrem> CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE
OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: Cisien Nawab TmvC BaW ibex
MrDetonia K1rk Zauberfisch Natrick nurupo yonder Mmike Kulrak
Guest93468 SM0TVI Colti pflanze Xanthor egos yeticry scc Arsiesys
lord_helmet Unit193 Sciuro Olipro musca dadinn MobileRecon eb0t
ledixus matlock zyley acperkins bendem RH_IO SkIzZaTo morphis__
epsilon solos jmsx Ekchuan AFNobody Jguy bw_ dka nrs- Kamilion
trewas aaro
1133 [05:41:53] <dkrtrem> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: volter mumixam grim4593 koenvg
michael_mbp eldritch r0Oter Tristan-Speccy ca_buf precise xtore
greenbagels dysfigured esainane thalos seyeongkim nymony ChmEarl
Cueball kchr_ Schmiel wizzy_ teraflops Andrew_0010bit rdleon Hachya
JC_SoCal spanglesontoast nkuttler Acrisor _bsurfer_ jolt Kilo`byte
michaelni hagabaka nitemare diniwed skney electro33 karakedi andhoy
mirsal_ mf|
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1135 [05:41:54] <fabien> EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER
WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: necrogami Rhuarc lbatalha architekt
preaction thekingofbandit distantorigin prasket papel homegrown
installibre turfrex Tom-_ daemonkeeper jlacroix f3bruary Pwnna
abracadaniel nitemare RichiH sasukeskapa klaas fnmueller enki
zymurgy James_T amospalla Iridos Schmiel tomreyn gardar beuker
Henry151 Pseudo Druid APexil atomi SerkanDevel[m] rawruw AndrewMC
darxmurf lrvick at
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1137 [05:41:55] <ghostyyy> like you see on efnet
1138 [05:41:57] <Purec> it's angry
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1141 [05:42:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o somiaj
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1147 [05:42:16] <ghostyyy> ugh here comes the no fun police
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1151 [05:42:39] <webbyz> I'm ok with the bots advertising
porn once in a while. As that takes less effort for us having to
hella search the net. :P
1152 [05:42:39] <el> somiaj: i was considering +r for a bit but if
you're here i'll let you drive
1153 [05:42:52] <r0bby> webbyz: pornhub. Use it :)
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1157 [05:42:57] <webbyz> ev
1158 [05:43:00] <Purec> it's too vanilla
1159 [05:43:02] <webbyz> eh*
1160 [05:43:06] *** somiaj sets mode: +r
1161 [05:43:10] <lila-magg> <el> I started ##feminism
because i think most white men are pigs: dudz bove thiagoss phaseNi
idmistir qeqsgb likcoras mdroid Mrloafbot_ Aebian xand qman__ sed
mrr0b nicdev lift ghoti bureado mdorenka LightAmaze adi banc Ekho
ivan shabius television supersoju ericnoan daishan RUDE Louis thurin
xcin tomocha_ Doldge CodeBlue1776 yang-X Arrowmaster elios tabakhase
klow brouette HurricaneHarry towo^work Willis soahccc vOYtEC sc_ nwe
klaas
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1164 [05:43:16] <somiaj> el: that is what I was going to do.
1165 [05:43:19] *** somiaj sets mode: -o somiaj
1166 [05:43:22] <poeticrpm> I dont understand the purpose of the
spam? Lolz? Do they get off seeing discussion on the topic? Seems
like a really stupid approach to feeling relevant
1167 [05:43:23] <webbyz> bots can send us better porn maybe
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1169 [05:43:26] <Unit193> Fantastic.
1170 [05:43:28] <sampe> ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE
CAREFUL!!: Cabanossi roguelazer vamiry dubwoc rancyd nix-7
Guest20032 chalcedony oba craysiii imMute nicoasPL[m] dka sidmo_
n0p_ DLange DalekSec banging_ eldritch soul-d Igel tarzeau_ cyphix_
folivora shtirlic tabakhase lsyoyom ghormoon exezin NaPs PIBER
SM0TVI cateye starev ihre mrr0butt RoyK^ zopieux juhop deltam
pseubodot VBrain Firztspawn eb0t_ thoros hasdf linuxthefish savoret
bionix noahfx
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1173 [05:43:43] <ghostyyy> poeticrpm, these are some hard-hitting
facts theyre spamming
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1179 [05:43:50] <ghostyyy> its a tough job but somebody has to
inform the people
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1181 [05:44:07] <k_sze[work]> I remember once seeing bot spam that
let me to google it, and then I found out about sofurry.
1182 [05:44:15] <webbyz> Luckily +r killed the bots!
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1185 [05:44:20] <k_sze[work]> s/let/led/
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1188 [05:44:38] <webbyz> whatever +r does
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1192 [05:44:42] * RoyK voaches for +r on #debian
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1194 [05:44:45] <webbyz> it's a lifesaver.
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1198 [05:44:49] <somiaj> webbyz: only regsitered users can join
the channel.
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1202 [05:45:12] <somiaj> webbyz: in general there are many debian
users who want support without a registered account, so we prefer
not to have that, but it helps during a bot attack.
1203 [05:45:40] <webbyz> sounds good to me!
1204 [05:45:41] <RoyK> possibly someone hates us and bought access
to botnet - that happens
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1207 [05:45:59] <binaryc> thanks for the mention spammers, a
gentle reminder for the long time lerkers to drop in and see
what's up.
1208 [05:46:06] <ghostyyy> people who buy botnets are lame, only
people who make their own deserve any respect
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1215 [05:46:34] <RoyK> Cory Doctorow's book "Little
Brother" has a good explaination of that
1216 [05:46:35] <webbyz> ghostyyy: people actually buy those? wtfz
1217 [05:46:41] <ghostyyy> well yeah
1218 [05:46:51] <somiaj> though it is best to just ignore it as
best as you can and stick on topic. No need to feed them.
1219 [05:48:09] <RoyK> it only takes a single idiot who was sad
about not getting help or upset somehow, and $5 or so to purchase a
bit of botnet time
1220 [05:48:18] <simpledat> awall: What do you mean? Should I
worry?
1221 [05:48:28] <simpledat> what is nm?
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1223 [05:49:01] <RoyK> +r should be default for all serious
channels on freenode (imho)
1224 [05:49:45] <k_sze[work]> It's really not that hard to
register on Freenode anyway.
1225 [05:50:12] <somiaj> RoyK: #debian has decided to only use it
if absolutely needed, for the most part is not needed, and there are
plenty of users who come here who don't want freenode accounts.
1226 [05:50:36] <somiaj> +r does restrict users who can use this
support, and #debian would prefer not to do that.
1227 [05:50:37] <k_sze[work]> "Why would anyone not want a
Freenode account?" :P
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1230 [05:51:49] <simpledat> ppp is arecommend of nm nm ---»
ppp ---» libpcap*... <- what does it mean?
1231 [05:51:59] <somiaj> simpledat: aptitude why ppp
1232 [05:52:18] <simpledat> bash: aptitude: command not found
1233 [05:52:32] <somiaj> I think ppp is just installed by default
during the install
1234 [05:52:54] <somiaj> simpledat: ahh, you can install aptitude
if you need. That command will just tell you what package depended
no or recommneded ppp (As to why it might be there)
1235 [05:52:56] <simpledat> and libpcap?
1236 [05:53:21] <somiaj> most likely something on your system
depends on it. aptitude why libpcap would give you some info about
that.
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1238 [05:53:36] <somiaj> but it seems you would have to install
aptitude to use that command.
1239 [05:53:37] <simpledat> E: Invalid operation why
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1241 [05:54:03] <simpledat> sorry
1242 [05:54:14] <simpledat>
replaced-url
1243 [05:54:20] <somiaj> its an aptitude feature, apt won't
have this commaand
1244 [05:54:25] <simpledat> Depends network-manager (>= 1.6)
1245 [05:54:53] <somiaj> ppp was installed because network-manager
recommended it
1246 [05:54:59] <somiaj> and by default reocmmended packages will
be installed
1247 [05:55:14] <simpledat> c ppp Depends libpcap0.8 (>= 0.9.8)
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1249 [05:56:12] <somiaj> and ppp depends on libpcap, so you
installed the mate desktop, which recommneded network-manager, which
then recommended ppp, which then depended on libpcap0.8
1250 [05:56:19] <somiaj> which is why those packages are installed
on your system.
1251 [05:56:27] <simpledat> Oh thank you
1252 [05:56:30] <simpledat> :/
1253 [05:56:33] <simpledat> I couldnt sleep
1254 [05:56:46] <simpledat> :)
1255 [05:57:01] <simpledat> So it means no worry for me?
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1257 [05:57:55] <simpledat> I was thinking someone was maybe
trying to hack me
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1259 [05:58:18] <chrono> damn tor flooder you can't flood +r
channels
1260 [05:59:07] <somiaj> simpledat: You can always track down logs
and see when and why things were installed. But I think you are safe
for now.
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1262 [06:00:11] <simpledat> somiaj: Do you know why
network-manager recommended ppp and libpcap0.8?
1263 [06:00:35] <simpledat> Is there any logical reason?
1264 [06:02:34] <somiaj> ppp is a way to connect to a network, and
network-manager is a collection of things to connect to networks. So
it recommends this so you have the tools to connect to ppp networks
with network manager
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1266 [06:02:53] <somiaj> it is up to the package matainers to
determine what packages are recommended and/or suggested
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1271 [06:07:33] <simpledat> somiaj: What bout libpcap0.8? Why is
this nessacary?
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1273 [06:08:30] <somiaj> simpledat: do you know how libaries work?
Most applications require shared libaries. ppp requires that libary,
so in order to have ppp installed, you have to have that libary
installed.
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1337 [07:17:39] <Neomex_> any idea why when i enter wifi password
when installing debian and click continue it goes back and asks me
about ESSID again?
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1339 [07:18:20] <Neomex_> does that mean i entered something wrong
or is it the issue with installer?
1340 [07:18:49] <klys> neomex_, can you get a prompt? # iwlist
wlan0 scan | less
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1343 [07:19:10] <Neomex_> im using graphical installer, any way to
bring up terminal?
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1345 [07:20:48] <klys> probably change your vt with ctrl+alt+f3 or
so
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1347 [07:23:25] <Neomex_> iwlist: not found less: not founf
1348 [07:23:35] <Neomex_> wait, typo
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1351 [07:24:13] <Neomex_> not found iwlist now
1352 [07:24:29] <klys> I think iwlist is in wireless-tools
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1354 [07:25:03] <Neomex_> ctrl + alt + f3 got me in built-in shell
1355 [07:25:09] <Neomex_> busybox
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1357 [07:25:32] <klys> if you can, try apt-get install
wireless-tools
1358 [07:26:01] <Neomex_> no apt-get
1359 [07:26:10] <Neomex_> its at: -/bin/sh
1360 [07:26:42] <klys> well I suppose you can get vack to the
installer with ctrl+alt+Fn
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1364 [07:27:12] <Neomex_> what will be the fn on desktop keyboard?
1365 [07:27:30] <klys> just try them all until it shows up
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1367 [07:28:43] <Neomex_> somehow managed to reset pc
1368 [07:28:56] <klys> oh. wierd.
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1371 [07:29:08] <Neomex_> do regular install maybe? not graphical
1372 [07:29:16] <klys> you probably pushed ctrl+alt+del
1373 [07:29:36] <klys> that's the reboot sequence
1374 [07:31:03] <klys> also I think there is an option to install
firmware from a .deb file
1375 [07:31:24] <themill> Neomex_: does your wifi need firmware?
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1377 [07:31:53] <Neomex_> no clue, i got external adapter for this
pc
1378 [07:31:57] <Neomex_> it detects it though
1379 [07:31:58] <klys>
replaced-url
1380 [07:32:24] <themill> Neomex_: detecting that the hardware is
there and making it work are different things
1381 [07:32:34] <Neomex_> can i skip this step and install without
internet?
1382 [07:32:39] <themill> yes
1383 [07:32:43] <Neomex_> how?
1384 [07:32:56] <Neomex_> oh, got it
1385 [07:32:57] <klys> you could install from the dvd set
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1387 [07:33:26] <themill> Neomex_: what installer image are you
using?
1388 [07:34:00] <Neomex_> debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso
1389 [07:34:05] <Neomex_> on usb
1390 [07:34:42] <themill> So you could grab the firmware image and
boot off that which would give you working wifi at install time,
most likely. Or you can just complete the installation of that image
1391 [07:34:47] <themill> !firmware image
1392 [07:34:48] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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x-forwarded from debian box ?
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1458 [08:34:18] <nix64bit> I need to quickly test a bar code
printer on my debian box. have setup with cups with the ppd fiel
from bixolon and i get a filter error when test printing
1459 [08:34:53] <nix64bit> is there any quick fixes, i really dont
have time, I have enough work
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1468 [08:38:08] <zomaar> is dpkg-divert to /dev/null, basically,
supported?
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1470 [08:38:40] <zomaar> I know it works on Debian 8, just gives
dpkg warnings.
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1472 [08:38:55] <zomaar> But I'm not sure if there is another
way to do it.
1473 [08:41:57] <zomaar> I mean I could mount a tmpfs in the
dpkg-pre, divert the file to that location, and then umount it again
;-).
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1476 [08:47:11] <zomaar> Another option is to use tmpfiles.d to
just delete the file whenever it is found ;-).
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1480 [08:48:51] <zomaar> Another option is to use a specific
tmpfiles.d config file that you run in dpkg-post
1481 [08:49:19] <zomaar> Now you have a global wipelist.
1482 [08:49:44] <zomaar> But at that point you might just run a
custom script...
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1484 [08:50:58] <k_sze[work]> How do I list the RAM slots that are
used?
1485 [08:52:22] <k_sze[work]> `dmidecode -t 17`?
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1579 [09:46:46] <jomofcw> Hello !
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1582 [09:47:36] <annadane> hi jomofcw
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1584 [09:50:16] <jomofcw> Morning annadane ^^.
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1587 [09:52:46] <jomofcw> I've got this script runing on my
debian. It return a "failed: exit code 2", do you know how
to make it works, please ?
replaced-url
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1593 [09:56:39] <annadane> i don't know, but exit code 2 is
missing keyword or command or permission problem,
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1659 [10:39:47] <han-solo> guys
1660 [10:39:57] <han-solo> i'm trying to connect to a VPN
using pptp
1661 [10:40:02] <han-solo> ( meh )
1662 [10:40:20] <han-solo> but, i cannot seem to get it to work
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1664 [10:40:28] <han-solo> here's the log :
replaced-url
1665 [10:40:59] <han-solo> what could be the reason?
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1671 [10:48:51] <tolecnal> han-solo: not really helpful to your
error, but you really should use something else than PPTP. PPTP is
not secure, and you should look into other alternatives such as
IPSEC or OpenVPN.
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1676 [10:51:38] <han-solo> yeah, i know. That's why i said
"meh" :}
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1686 [11:00:05] <zomaar> Is there any way to add a trigger for
executing something on package installation of something other than
creating a package for that?
1687 [11:00:30] <zomaar> I mean you can add triggers in packages,
but outside?
1688 [11:00:44] <annadane> zomaar, guess it depends on what you
mean by trigger and what you're trying to do specificallu
1689 [11:00:56] <zomaar> any random script on a specific package
installation
1690 [11:01:04] <zomaar> or update, obviously.
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1693 [11:03:22] <zomaar> I mean you could add DPkg::Post-Invoke
and then check the logs etc. but...
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1704 [11:10:40] <zomaar> So one way is to logtail
/var/log/dpkg.log and check for status installed messages
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1708 [11:11:27] <zomaar> But that takes you out of the loop and
you now need a (systemd) watch service, or a daemon.
1709 [11:11:38] <zomaar> or a cron job.
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1725 [11:25:33] <Elirips> Hello. I need an alternative for
SquirrelMail (I need php 7 and I dont want to mess with installing
php 5 (where squirrelmail depends on) and 7 in parallel). Any hints?
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1731 [11:28:28] <RoyK> Elirips: roundcube?
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1734 [11:29:35] <Elirips> RoyK: thanks, I'll look at it
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1738 [11:33:10] <cripcate> anyone got recommendations on where to
install anaconda? Im setting up my work notebook at the moment. Only
i will be using it (so no other user accounts). Should i install it
in /root/? or in /opt/? or in hte home folder? Any best practice
here?
1739 [11:34:45] <Logg> /opt is good. somewhere under ~ is fine
too, it's just preference.
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1773 [12:06:50] <k-man> is there some way i can get a border
around the whole of a terminal window? i have black terminals and
when they stack on top of each other its hard to see where they
overlap
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1775 [12:07:34] <petn-randall> k-man: You could select a theme
that has borders.
1776 [12:07:48] <k-man> ah ok
1777 [12:08:10] <petn-randall> k-man: Or use a single terminal
window and use something like byobu, screen, or tmux, to switch
between multiple windows.
1778 [12:08:28] <petn-randall> k-man: Personally, I use the
xfce4-terminal with multipe tabs.
1779 [12:10:01] <k-man> thanks
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1781 [12:10:34] <k-man> BlackMATE is the only one that seems to
put a border around the whole window
1782 [12:10:37] <k-man> from what I can tell
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1792 [12:19:41] <han-solo> hello, i cannot connect to the VPN
using pptp
1793 [12:20:39] <han-solo> here's the log :
replaced-url
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1819 [12:48:05] <Ragnarok022> hi
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2001 [15:35:08] <SerkanDevel[m]> Is there a pypy3 package?
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2007 [15:40:49] <jelly> ,v pypy3
2008 [15:40:50] <judd> No package named 'pypy3' was
found in amd64.
2009 [15:40:59] <jelly> not with that name, SerkanDevel[m]
2010 [15:41:04] <ChrisH> ,v pypy
2011 [15:41:05] <judd> Package: pypy on amd64 -- jessie:
2.4.0+dfsg-3; stretch: 5.6.0+dfsg-4; buster: 5.8.0+dfsg-2; sid:
5.9.0+dfsg-1
2012 [15:41:32] <jelly> that's the 2.7 compatible one
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2014 [15:42:06] <SerkanDevel[m]> and the 3.X one?
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2016 [15:42:35] <jelly> doesn't seem to exit
2017 [15:42:39] <jelly> exist*
2018 [15:43:06] <jelly> judd: wnpp pypy3
2019 [15:43:08] <judd> Bug
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2022 [15:45:15] <SerkanDevel[m]> That seems to be from 2014
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2024 [15:45:20] <SerkanDevel[m]> how is it now?
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2026 [15:52:58] <Trel> Does UFW allow hostnames for
source/destination, and if so, does it just resolve them to an A
record and continue from there?
2027 [15:53:06] <Ericounet> Paquet : pypy (5.6.0+dfsg-4)
2028 [15:53:26] <Ericounet> up to date pypy: 5.9 ...
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2031 [15:57:40] <jelly> SerkanDevel[m]: the bug is still open, so
it means noone has packages it yet
2032 [15:57:51] <jelly> packaged*
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2035 [15:59:56] <rafalcpp> how to limit CPU% use of program (in
addition to it being nice'd), so it will never use then say 10%
of cpu?
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2057 [16:13:53] <arora> rafalcpp: use nice command to set process
to less favourable
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2064 [16:19:29] <RoyK> arora: and ionice -c 3, perhaps
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2068 [16:24:17] <rafalcpp> indeed arora RoyK though I wanted even
stronger lowering
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2070 [16:24:28] <rafalcpp> e.g. it should run for 0.1 second each
1 second or such
2071 [16:25:04] <rafalcpp> it could be written as a wrapper that
runs a proram and then sends to that child SIGTERM / SIGCONT in
loop. it's not written and ready to use?
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2074 [16:25:52] <arora> rafalcpp:
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2075 [16:26:09] <rafalcpp> so no standard tool? ok thanks
2076 [16:26:35] <teraflops> define standard
2077 [16:26:42] <rafalcpp> teraflops: in debian repo
2078 [16:26:51] <teraflops> ,v cpulimit
2079 [16:26:53] <judd> Package: cpulimit on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.7-1; jessie: 2.2-1; stretch: 2.4-1; buster: 2.5-1; sid: 2.5-1
2080 [16:26:58] <rafalcpp> ah cool
2081 [16:27:44] <nvz> can anyone give me a hint on what to lookup
to apply a conditional function in a spreadsheet (libreoffice) in
this example I have min income values and corresponding tax rate
percentages in a table and want to compute net wages from cells
containing gross income that would be measured against this tax
bracket table
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2084 [16:29:26] <teraflops> I think cgroups is more standar since
it's at kernel
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2087 [16:32:28] <RoyK> rafalcpp: just let the scheduler and the
i/o scheduler do their job, and it'll be fine. if the system
isn't doing anything else at the time, it will run just as fast
as without {io,}nice
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2089 [16:33:43] <RoyK> but a 'nice -n20 ionice -c 3
somecommand' is a nice way to be nice ;)
2090 [16:33:49] <rafalcpp> RoyK: I know, in this case I want to
smother it down even more, since this computer is running
performance benchmarks; and don't want no background process
any chance of distrupting it noticibly
2091 [16:34:04] <RoyK> I see
2092 [16:34:45] <rafalcpp> afair ionice for exampe does not fully
account for all side affects, like if program causes writes into
underlying RAID/LVM or causes SWAP accesses (unless they changed
that), that was not perfect in linux always
2093 [16:35:42] <mspo> it can help for sure but doesn't know
if diskX is slow or whatever
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2156 [16:59:04] <jomofcw> I've got this script runing on my
debian. It return a "failed: exit code 2", do you know how
to make it works, please ?
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2161 [17:01:04] <mspo> jomofcw: run it with -x to see more details
2162 [17:01:06] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Add " +x" to the
shebang to get more details.
2163 [17:02:04] <somiaj> looking at the script, it might be mailx
whihc is failing, as there really isn't much else there. Maybe
try to manually run the mailx command.
2164 [17:02:05] <mspo> also fix "recepient" spelling
please ;)
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2219 [17:32:05] <fatalerrors> hi everybody
2220 [17:32:25] <fatalerrors> i'm using kde plasma 4.14 on
debian jessie
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2223 [17:33:51] <fatalerrors> using amarok 2.8.0 i have a weird
bug: when playing music, randomly and with no reason playback
suddenly stops
2224 [17:33:59] <fatalerrors> no error message of any kind
2225 [17:34:26] <fatalerrors> playback works back when pressing
play again
2226 [17:34:38] <jelly> is it local music or a stream
2227 [17:34:47] <fatalerrors> it's local music
2228 [17:34:52] <jelly> weird
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2230 [17:35:00] <fatalerrors> yes indead
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2232 [17:35:17] <fatalerrors> and sometimes it plays 2 minutes
then stops
2233 [17:35:24] <fatalerrors> sometimes longer
2234 [17:36:10] <fatalerrors> it happens whatever i'm doing,
i did not find any reproductible thing that always turns playback
off
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2239 [17:38:36] * fatalerrors started amarok in debug mode in a console
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2253 [17:46:14] <fatalerrors> jelly: when playback stops i have
several of these message:
2254 [17:46:16] <fatalerrors> QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such
method Phonon::Gstreamer::MediaObject::setState(State)
2255 [17:46:31] <fatalerrors> looks like a phonon problem
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2265 [17:49:56] <fatalerrors> i changed to phonon-vlc backends, i
hopes it'll solve the problem
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2279 [17:58:41] <RoyK> hm… seems bluetoothctl can open up
for pairing, but I can't find a single option for setting a pin
statically. I want to use this raspberry pi for a controller that
allows anyone to pair with it given {s,}he has the pin - any ideas?
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2289 [18:01:08] <yuriescl> Debian installation in "installing
core packages..." is taking 10x more time than usual. I'm
installing the root filesystem in a ext4 LVM particion setup on a
RAID 5 12 TB. Is there any issue with that?
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2294 [18:02:55] <rafalcpp> yokel: sohuld be fine in theory.
Perhaps run hdparm -Tt on the devices, and on /dev/md... to see is
it what's expected
2295 [18:03:05] <rafalcpp> also hdarpm -i on devices, is it in
highest udma mode there?
2296 [18:03:47] <yuriescl> rafalcpp: was that for me?
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2299 [18:04:00] <rafalcpp> oh. yes, yuriescl
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2307 [18:07:28] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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2328 [18:12:27] <awal1> * is what I need for du recursive size?
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2331 [18:13:08] <awal1> example: du -sh * Documents
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2334 [18:13:32] <teraflops> !kick raynold
2335 [18:13:32] * dpkg kicks raynold in the crotch.
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2341 [18:15:13] <teraflops> awal1: du -sh folder/*
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2344 [18:16:33] <awal1> teraflops, I missed / yeah.
2345 [18:16:52] <teraflops> ncdu is fine too
2346 [18:16:55] <awal1> cd folder du -sh * does the job too
2347 [18:17:19] <awal1> hm, you right, I forgot about it
2348 [18:17:32] <awal1> much better; nad I have it installed :P
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2350 [18:17:43] <awal1> nad/and
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2352 [18:18:18] <awal1> better no, but more user friendly
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2354 [18:18:35] <awal1> and more options if i remember good
2355 [18:19:32] <teraflops> du has a lot of options
2356 [18:19:46] <teraflops> -x is a useful one
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2358 [18:20:06] <jomofcw> petn-randall hello ! Sorry for the
delay. Where shall I had " +x" ? I already add the line
"set +x" as you can see, but it doesn't change
anything :/.
2359 [18:20:07] <teraflops> and it has --exclude
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2366 [18:21:42] <jomofcw> mspo Ok for the spelling :p
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2368 [18:23:42] <jomofcw> somiaj you're right : I get this
error processing the command manually : "mailx: invalid option
-- 'r'"
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2377 [18:26:27] <jomofcw> somiaj I get it working manually
(removing the -r parameters, i receive the e-mail) but I still have
the same code 2 error :/...
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2385 [18:29:31] <jomofcw> I'll try new things tomorrow.
Thanks for your help anyway :
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2405 [18:42:43] <azarus> It might have
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2407 [18:42:50] <azarus> sorry wrong channel
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2411 [18:44:56] <Neomex> so ive installed debian without
connection
2412 [18:45:09] <Neomex> its scanning for wifi but doesnt find any
2413 [18:45:17] <Neomex> though my laptop is next to it and has it
2414 [18:45:22] <Neomex> driver?
2415 [18:45:39] <_rubik> It sounds like an iwlwifi issue.
2416 [18:45:42] <simpledat> I changed the Pointer speed to lowest
in Mouse Preferences. But it does nothing. The Speed is the same.
How can I lower the mouse speed?
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2419 [18:46:25] <_rubik> Neomex: check you wireless card and see
if your iwlwifi firmware covers it. If not, you'll have to hope
inwith an ethernet and build from source.
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2423 [18:48:17] <Neomex> build what from source?
2424 [18:48:53] <mtn> Neomex: first identify your wifi card/chip.
then look at the relevant wiki article.
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2430 [18:52:30] <simpledat> I changed the Pointer speed to lowest
in Mouse Preferences. But it does nothing. The Speed is the same.
How can I lower the mouse speed?
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2435 [18:55:04] <soupeater> hi
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2439 [18:56:31] <_rubik> Neomex: you're going to have to get
your hands on iwlwifi that supports your network card.. Or at least
thats what I'm assuming the problem is
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2441 [18:56:56] <Neomex> does debian have a package with those to
dl?
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2443 [18:57:35] <soupeater> Neomex: yes it does
2444 [18:57:50] <soupeater> Neomex: are you connected via ethernet
at this point?
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2446 [18:58:07] <Neomex> no, ethernet card burned, i have external
wifi adapter only
2447 [18:58:26] <soupeater> Neomex: ok. which debian are u
running? stretch+
2448 [18:58:27] <soupeater> ?
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2450 [18:58:51] <Neomex> debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso
2451 [18:59:17] <soupeater> one moment
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2455 [19:00:04] <soupeater> Neomex: edit your
/etc/apt/sources.list with root privileges and add this line to the
end of that file:
2456 [19:00:06] <soupeater> deb
replaced-url
2457 [19:00:10] <mtn> iwlwifi is only for intel chips, so it
won't help if not intel wifi
2458 [19:00:13] <soupeater> then run
2459 [19:00:14] <soupeater> sudo apt update
2460 [19:00:16] <soupeater> and
2461 [19:00:23] <soupeater> sudo apt install firmware-iwlwifi
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2463 [19:00:33] <soupeater> then run this command:
2464 [19:00:35] <Neomex> dont i need package for that?
2465 [19:00:35] <soupeater> modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi
2466 [19:00:39] <mtn> Neomex: first identify your wifi card/chip.
then look at the relevant wiki article. iwlwifi is only for intel
2467 [19:00:41] <soupeater> references:
replaced-url
2468 [19:00:56] <soupeater> oh
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2470 [19:01:07] <soupeater> do you have an intel wifi card?
2471 [19:01:14] <mtn> no one knows ;)
2472 [19:01:18] <teraflops> heh
2473 [19:01:23] <Neomex> sec
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2475 [19:01:42] <soupeater> when you boot your computer, does it
tell you you need firmware-iwlwifi? like after you unlock your disk
encryption, just before lightDM starts?
2476 [19:02:00] <jelly> fatalerrors: thast sounds reasonable.
I've replaced amarok with clementine a while ago when it
started looking a bit bloated and slow on library rescans
2477 [19:02:10] <Neomex> scientific atlanta a cisco company is
what it says on it, lol
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2479 [19:02:37] <teraflops> ,v tomahawk
2480 [19:02:38] <judd> No package named 'tomahawk' was
found in amd64.
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2482 [19:02:45] <teraflops> ;(
2483 [19:02:46] <Neomex> didnt pay attention, reset?
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2485 [19:03:04] <soupeater> Neomex: you probably need
firmware-iwlwifi, so just follow the instructions i gave above
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2487 [19:03:15] <soupeater> the external wifi adapter works on
your machine, right? i.e. you currently have internet access on it?
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2491 [19:04:47] <Neomex> um, i dont have connection, it just lets
me search for networks and doesnt find any
2492 [19:05:16] <soupeater> Neomex: well, you need to get internet
access on that machine somehow. do you have an ethernet cable
available?
2493 [19:05:36] <somiaj> you can also use a thumb drive to copy
the firmware over
2494 [19:05:43] <Neomex> ethernet card dead
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2498 [19:05:56] <soupeater> yikes, then you need a usb stick to
copy the firmware to your machine
2499 [19:06:10] <Neomex> do you have link?
2500 [19:06:47] <soupeater>
replaced-url
2501 [19:06:50] <soupeater> you can download it from there
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2617 [19:58:14] <simpledat> How do I remove files with spaces? rm
File here.txt not working
2618 [19:58:26] <greycat> put quotes around the filename
2619 [19:58:26] <JustASlacker> rm "space file"
2620 [19:58:41] <JustASlacker> or escape it rm space\ file
2621 [19:58:44] <mspo> bash will use a \ , which also works
2622 [19:58:52] <greycat> in most cases, either single quotes or
double quotes will work. backslash-escaping the spaces also works.
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2624 [19:59:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1726
2625 [19:59:08] <JustASlacker> scoobie snack for all
2626 [20:01:04] <mspo> JustASlacker: now name a file "-this
is a file" or "- this file"
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2628 [20:01:24] <mspo> oops- simpledat ^
2629 [20:01:30] <greycat> rm -- "-foo"; or rm
"./-foo"
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2631 [20:01:46] <mspo> indeed
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2640 [20:07:38] <Cr4zko> Hoi
2641 [20:07:40] <RoyK> greycat: rm -- -foo # also works
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2645 [20:09:55] <Cr4zko> If the earth was a rotating globe a
helicopter could just stay in the air and wait for it's
location to come by
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2648 [20:13:18] <jelly> Cr4zko: the air rotates as well.
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2651 [20:15:25] <Cr4zko> Uhhhh
2652 [20:15:29] <Cr4zko> I don't know man
2653 [20:15:31] <Cr4zko> I'm a genius
2654 [20:15:44] <Cr4zko> If they gave me the GNU Mach kernel I
would finish it in a day fam
2655 [20:15:49] <Cr4zko> Don't doubt street knowledge
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2657 [20:16:00] <greycat> If the air didn't rotate with the
ground, there would be 1000 mile per hour winds at the equator.
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2665 [20:17:13] <Cr4zko> I'm a genius
2666 [20:17:38] <jelly> but anyway, go try ##chat, Cr4zko, and
keep this frequency clear
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2675 [20:21:29] <jelly> ,v ocserv
2676 [20:21:31] <judd> Package: ocserv on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 0.11.6-1~bpo8+2; stretch: 0.11.6-2; buster:
0.11.9-1+b1; sid: 0.11.9-1+b1
2677 [20:21:42] <jelly> ,checkbackport ocserv
2678 [20:21:46] <judd> Backporting package ocserv in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch, virtual.
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2733 [20:43:04] <hagabaka> hi, I'm running debian in a
virtualbox guest. When I build the guest additions, it says
"/lib/modules/4.14.0-1-amd64/build/include/linux/version.h: No
such file or directory" Is that provided by a package? I
already installed linux-headers-4.14.0-1-amd64
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2736 [20:43:37] <petn-randall> hagabaka: Where did you get kernel
4.14 from?
2737 [20:43:42] <petn-randall> ,kernels
2738 [20:43:43] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.14.0-trunk-686-pae (4.14-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-1-686-pae (4.14.2-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.13-1);
stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
(4.9.51-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5);
wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
2739 [20:43:44] <judd> (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1)
2740 [20:44:33] <hagabaka> from apt
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2749 [20:47:11] <petn-randall> hagabaka: Which release are you
running?
2750 [20:47:29] <hagabaka> I think sid
2751 [20:47:50] <petn-randall> hagabaka: Can you share the output
of 'apt-cache policy' on
replaced-url
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2758 [20:48:38] <baryluk> what version of virtual box? 4.14 is
only supported in most recent version. also is that version from
ubuntu or one from oracle?
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2764 [20:49:20] <hagabaka> petn-randall: apt-cache policy
replaced-url
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2768 [20:50:23] <hagabaka> baryluk: virtualbox 5.1.30 r118389, and
it's from oracle. The host is a Window machine
2769 [20:50:54] <petn-randall> hagabaka: That is an ...
jessie/stretch/sid mix?
2770 [20:50:56] <petn-randall> !frankendebian
2771 [20:50:56] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can
convince ##linux to help.
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2774 [20:51:32] <petn-randall> hagabaka: You might want to do a
clean upgrade to sid and remove the old releases from your
sources.list.
2775 [20:52:10] <hagabaka> remove all but sid?
2776 [20:53:05] <baryluk> hagabaka: Please update to 5.2.2 and
retry
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2780 [20:53:55] <baryluk> baryluk: Or ignore, if this is just for
testing. guest additions are optional. but are helpful in long run
for things like sharing files and copy pasting things between host
and guest. otherwise optional.
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2786 [20:54:49] <hagabaka> yeah, I do need shared folders and
clipboard
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2838 [21:15:26] <zerocool> anyone where smart about postfix
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2845 [21:17:06] <zerocool> i have an email server in a network
where 25 out is understandibly blocked for spam prevention, i have a
server outside of the network, wondering if I could use the outside
server as a relay so that i can connect to it, and it could connect
to other smtp servers
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2849 [21:17:35] <zerocool> specifically for outbound connections
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2851 [21:18:10] <greycat> #postfix may be better suited to answer
this
2852 [21:18:21] <zerocool> yeah i was just thinking that
2853 [21:18:24] <zerocool> thanks greycat
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3230 [21:49:33] <dff> can someone recommend a tool to track the
amount of bandwidth a specific process is using over time?
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3233 [21:49:49] <dff> vnstat seems to be system wide only
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3245 [21:53:52] <somiaj> dff: is a process one that uses a single
port or multiple ports?
3246 [21:54:13] <dff> single
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3249 [21:54:39] <somiaj> you should be able to use vnstat I would
think to see bandwidth ussage on a single port, which should only be
thte application that has it open
3250 [21:54:40] <dff> somiaj for highlight :)
3251 [21:54:50] <dff> ah
3252 [21:54:57] <somiaj> though this works more for server apps,
clients seem to connect to a single port, but will use different
ports to connect
3253 [21:54:58] <dff> yeah that would work
3254 [21:55:21] <dff> it's a server process
3255 [21:55:29] <dff> and the firewall wont let it use anything
else
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3258 [21:55:57] <dff> thanks somiaj
3259 [21:56:05] <somiaj> but my limited experience is you can
monintor bandwith on a single port, but per application is not
something I have seen much of
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3263 [21:57:34] <teraflops> dff: myabe lartc
3264 [21:57:37] <teraflops> maybe^
3265 [21:57:48] <dff> somiaj: do you query the database to get the
port?
3266 [21:58:06] <teraflops> not easy though
3267 [21:58:12] <somiaj> dff: usually services run on a fixed
port, like ssh is 22, http is 80, etc
3268 [21:58:18] <dff> vnstat --help
3269 [21:58:23] <dff> doesnt have options for ports
3270 [21:58:35] <somiaj> dff: but you can use netstat to determine
what port different apps are listening on
3271 [21:58:58] <somiaj> dff: I use to use iptraf, but this more a
curses ui thing you can use to watch with
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3274 [21:59:00] <dff> yes i know, but how do i extract the amount
of data coming from that single port
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3276 [21:59:29] <somiaj> or try teraflops advise, good thimgs come
from them.
3277 [21:59:48] <teraflops> dff: you want something like
replaced-url
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3280 [22:01:02] <dff> i need a console options, sorry didnt
mention that
3281 [22:01:17] <somiaj> dff: iptraf is a curses console program
3282 [22:01:18] <teraflops> the idea is there
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3284 [22:01:43] <teraflops> yep iptraf shows per process bandwidth
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3287 [22:02:05] <somiaj> yea seems the main suggestion is use the
QoS feature of the linux kernel, not nesicarally use that software.
3288 [22:02:22] <dff>
replaced-url
3289 [22:02:23] <dff> yay
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3291 [22:03:12] <teraflops> I used to use it like 12 years ago :P
3292 [22:03:21] <teraflops> dang
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3294 [22:03:24] <dff> now what do you use
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3296 [22:03:40] <teraflops> solarwinds
3297 [22:03:42] <teraflops> :D
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3299 [22:03:57] <dff> actually, i dont mind the statics being show
via htto
3300 [22:03:59] <r3> are there any caveats or "sneaky
issues" involved with using 'dd' to backup/image and
restore MicroSD cards? I've not used that tool a bunch and
wanted to be sure the process is as solid and error-free as
possible.
3301 [22:04:00] <dff> http*
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3304 [22:04:47] <r3> I am aware that one must be careful to get
the 'if=' and 'of=' correct or face a world of
pain - and since it is over USB, there are the usual USB issues to
watch out fore...
3305 [22:04:48] <somiaj> r3: dd will copy the whole image of the
drive, such as partition table, and size. If you have different
sized cards you want to copy it to, it may not be the best tool
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3308 [22:05:14] <r3> somiaj: aye, I am using the same-sized cards,
I made sure of that, so that's not an issue
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3311 [22:05:18] <dff> conv=sync,noerror?
3312 [22:05:27] <somiaj> r3: But it might be you want to backup
the actual data, in which case having another file system to copy it
to maybe more useful than the full image.
3313 [22:05:39] <r3> dff, I've read about that option and
have used it once to grab data off of a failing MicroSD card
3314 [22:06:07] <r3> somiaj: that's true - I was wondering if
there was a way to mount the resultant images
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3318 [22:06:50] <somiaj> r3: a lot may depend on your use case, it
maybe that backing up the files with rsync maybe more what you need
than a full image. Images are usually more restirctive to use than
backup of the files.
3319 [22:06:56] <dff> if your host can read the filesystem shoudnt
be a problem
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3321 [22:08:02] <r3> there isn't any changing data on these
cards, so really having a consistent image is more useful to me, but
I see your point and thank you :)
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3323 [22:09:24] <somiaj> r3: note cp can usually be used in place
of dd, for example cp /dev/sdc foo.img, could work too. dd has more
powerful options/control, but cp has nice defaults and could work in
lots of cases.
3324 [22:09:33] <r3> or, rather, I should say, that the important
data is well sent off the system to a NAS, but I understand.
I've used rsync more than dd and just wanted to be sure I
understood the tool
3325 [22:10:08] <r3> I never think of using cp for devices, but
you're right
3326 [22:10:28] <somiaj> for some reason people over look that cp
can also copy images, because everything is basically a file in *nix
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3328 [22:10:47] <somiaj> when they think images, dd comes to mind,
and cp is only for files (but dosn't have to be)
3329 [22:10:53] <teraflops> cat should work too
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3331 [22:11:12] <dTal> and straight shell redirecton
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3333 [22:11:30] * r3 nods at 'everything is a file'
3334 [22:11:34] <r3> so true
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3337 [22:12:33] <dTal> insofar as it's true (which is not
especially) it's because *nix redefines the word file to mean
"anything"
3338 [22:12:59] <dTal> device files behave nothing like
"files" as named bags of bits
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3341 [22:13:09] <teraflops> look at plan9
3342 [22:13:35] <teraflops> they did awesome things that right now
sounds like magic
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3344 [22:14:38] <somiaj> Yea, the linux kernel hides the details
and allows the user to access data as if it were a file, which was
what I mean by 'basically a file'
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3349 [22:16:21] <dTal> if you ask a layperson to list the things
one can do with files, you'll get stuff like
"move","rename","copy","open"
etc
3350 [22:16:31] <dTal> none of which you can do with a device file
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3352 [22:17:04] <dTal> all you're really guaranteed to be
able to do is write data sequentially, and read it sequentially
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3354 [22:17:38] <dTal> a more accurate statement is "many
things are file descriptors" but that's not so pithy
3355 [22:17:40] <mspo> cp doesn't work on /dev?
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3359 [22:18:23] <mspo> I think it does
3360 [22:18:45] <dTal> without trying it, I'm pretty sure if
I copy /dev/audio to /dev/audio2 I don't get a second interface
to my soundcard
3361 [22:18:53] <dTal> I get a useless device node unconnected to
anything
3362 [22:18:58] <dTal> same if I rename it
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3365 [22:19:20] <dTal> it's extremely unlike a file
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3367 [22:19:24] <mspo> dTal: try it with cp -p
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3369 [22:19:30] <mspo> I think it might work
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3372 [22:20:52] <HeXiLeD> may have just hit a bug. (cups/hplip)
The printer does not print .odt files. lp file.odt but does print
everything else. Is this bug fixed?
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3375 [22:21:38] <dTal> mspo: ah, this raises the issue of the
correct semantics
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3377 [22:21:57] <dTal> it copies the "contents"
3378 [22:22:09] <mspo> I get the same major/minor, at least
3379 [22:22:13] <mspo> it *looks* right
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3381 [22:22:38] <dTal> so if I want to make a copy of
/dev/urandom, cp -p /dev/urandom /dev/urandom2 results in a random
file of infinite size
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3383 [22:22:49] <mspo> really?
3384 [22:22:53] <dTal> rather than a copy of the thing that
generates random numbers
3385 [22:23:08] <dTal> it does for me
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3387 [22:23:20] <mspo> hey cool :)
3388 [22:23:29] <r3> can anyone think of a reason why I've a
different size file after the following process? I've used
'dd' to create an image from an older SD card, then
written that image to a new SD card, then (to check) used
'dd' to create another image file. The resultant two image
files are of different sizes. Is it because the new SD card
isn't *exactly* the same as the old? (even though they both are
3389 [22:23:29] <r3> the same manufacturer, and both claim to be
8GB)
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3391 [22:24:23] <mspo> so /dev/urandom is different from actual
device entries I think
3392 [22:24:43] <r3> (the first image file is 7892631552, the
second 7948206080)
3393 [22:24:51] <mspo> dTal: I'm not disagreeing that there
are special files that don't act like files
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3545 [22:58:55] <Debianpurgatory> Hall! I've been using
stretch for about a year in a configuration where I would run start
from separate ttys logged in as separate users. Today this began
failing. I don't know what triggered it.
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3548 [22:59:27] <Debianpurgatory> It may have been triggered by
installing libpam-yubico.
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3551 [22:59:58] <Netwolf> nnnnnnnn
3552 [23:00:08] <Debianpurgatory> I don't have any idea how
those could be connected and I apt-get purged that package.
3553 [23:00:14] <Debianpurgatory> Any advice?
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3663 [23:09:39] <pi_lastebill> hi, I got 3 rasberries running
rasbian, and for some reason I can't ssh into any of them
anymore. I've tried disabling some firewall settings on my
router, but to no avail
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3665 [23:09:46] <pi_lastebill> anyone got any pointers+
3666 [23:09:48] <pi_lastebill> ?
3667 [23:09:52] <greycat> !raspbian
3668 [23:09:52] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
replaced-url
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3670 [23:10:06] <pi_lastebill> ok
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3683 [23:15:19] <r3> I guess it's because - as I look in
dmesg - the new SD card is larger by 53MiB than the old one. So it
makes sense that the resultant image would be larger.
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