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12[00:06:43] <magyar> hi, how can I set grub2 to boot a
specific kernel on reboot?
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15[00:08:12] <Brigo> magyar, editing /etc/defautl/grub
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16[00:08:30] <Brigo> you have to set DEFAULT pointing to the
right kernel.
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17[00:08:38] <somiaj> there are also ways to change it for a
one time boot
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18[00:08:44] <somiaj> (I'd have to google them)
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19[00:09:06] <magyar> Brigo: how do I put there a specific
kernel ?
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20[00:09:10] <magyar> right now it's 0
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23[00:09:48] <tdn> In what package do I find the command
dh_python2?
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24[00:10:01] <Brigo> magyar, i think the number is the kernel
line in grub menu.
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25[00:10:16] <magyar> in my case the grub2 splash screen has a
menuentry and under debian there is sub-menuetries
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26[00:10:16] <tdn> It is mentioned here:
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27[00:10:41] <Brigo> tdn, python
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29[00:11:02] <Brigo> magyar, that could be an issue :)
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31[00:11:12] <tdn> Brigo, well, it is not available. But I have
python on my system :)
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36[00:11:47] <Brigo> tdn: python: /usr/bin/dh_python2
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38[00:11:58] <Brigo> isn't the file there?
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41[00:12:11] <tdn> zsh: no such file or directory:
/usr/bin/dh_python2
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42[00:12:48] <Brigo> tdn, are you sure you have python package
installed? what version?
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43[00:13:05] <tdn> 2.7.9-1
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45[00:13:11] <n4dir>
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46[00:13:29] <n4dir> else there is also "apt-file", i
have to guess: "apt-file search dh_python2"
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51[00:14:17] <Brigo> n4dir, it was what i did.
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52[00:14:21] <tdn> apt-file search dh_python2 says python
provides it
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53[00:14:25] <tdn> Strange
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55[00:14:39] <Brigo> my python version is 2.7.13-2 stretch.
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56[00:14:40] <tdn> I have no idea why it is not there
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57[00:14:44] <tdn> I am on jessie
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58[00:14:52] <tdn> Is it safe to do apt-get reinstall python?
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60[00:14:58] <Brigo> yes
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61[00:14:59] <tdn> I mean, python is pretty vital on debian
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64[00:15:32] <Brigo> check the output of dpkg -L python
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67[00:16:23] <kremator_> hey guys, how can i upgrade my system
without upgrading the kernel?
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69[00:16:40] <kremator_> i mean, doing an apt update+upgrade
but ignoring the kernels packages
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70[00:16:46] <tdn> Brigo, n4dir: reinstalliung python fixed it
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71[00:16:50] <tdn> No idea what happened.
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72[00:17:24] <annadane> kremator_, i want to say just apt
upgrade
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73[00:17:40] <kremator_> annadane, ?
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75[00:17:52] <annadane> i'm not entirely certain actually
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76[00:17:57] <Brigo> tdn, weird.
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79[00:18:53] <n4dir> tdn: no clue why, but glad your problem is
solved.
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81[00:19:02] <Brigo> kremator_, you can pin the right packages,
but i don't think it will work if you don't have the right
kernel.
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83[00:19:50] <n4dir> luisoliv_: formerly know as kremator:
"search the web for <how to set debian packages on hold>.
That will tell you how
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85[00:20:03] <luisoliv_> n4dir, ty
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86[00:20:04] <n4dir> !hold
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87[00:20:04] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the
package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a
package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or
'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude
hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update
Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use
holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See
also <hold list>, <unhold>.
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88[00:20:13] <n4dir> or just omit the web and read that :-)
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90[00:20:37] <annadane> ...right
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94[00:22:51] <Brigo> i am off, bye.
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99[00:24:44] <annadane> i was sure apt upgrade worked and not
dist-upgrade for holding back kernels but oh well
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101[00:26:43] <n4dir> hmm. though i do recall that kernels are
newer removed. So even if i a new kernel gets installed, one could
still boot the old one. (assuming what i recall is correct, duh)
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102[00:26:57] <n4dir> lol: never removed (not newer)
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105[00:27:38] <somiaj> by default there will be two kernels,
older ones will be autoremoved
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107[00:27:55] <n4dir> somiaj: must be new then.
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108[00:28:03] <somiaj> so it will only go back one kernel
version if you have the kernels being auto installed via a meta
package. Though instable this is rarely an issue, because the kernel
is usually replaced when upgraded.
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109[00:28:07] <somiaj> n4dir: that is
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110[00:28:13] <n4dir> ah, good. thanks
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112[00:28:22] <somiaj> and that really only affects backports
and testing/unstable users.
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114[00:28:38] <somiaj> Stable kernel upgrades replace the
kernel, so unless you isntall another kernel there may not be one
there.
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117[00:29:29] <n4dir> doesn't sound like the best idea ever
to me.
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119[00:30:26] <n4dir> otoh back in the past i sometimes had
quite a few old kernels, because i forgot to remove them. Also not
so good
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125[00:32:11] <annadane> holding back the kernel sounds like a
weird idea in stable, i wonder what kremator was trying to do
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128[00:33:46] <luisoliv> annadane, im kremator, and im on
unstable xubuntu
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129[00:33:51] <n4dir> i sometimes don't upgrade the kernel
so i don't have to boot in the other installation and update
grub (that is: i think there may be reasons to do so).
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130[00:33:56] <somiaj> n4dir: yea, I like the new autoremove
setup with kernels, and as always it tells you it will removing them
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132[00:34:07] <luisoliv> the problem guys is im using xubuntu
NON-lts
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134[00:34:20] <n4dir> somiaj: ah, i see. Thanks again for the
info (let's hope i will be able to remember ... ).
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135[00:34:21] <somiaj> luisoliv: so you aren't even using
debian, please go use xubuntu's support. #debian only supports
debian pure blends.
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139[00:34:54] <luisoliv> somiaj, wew...
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140[00:35:03] <annadane> ...yeah. yikes.
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141[00:35:08] <annadane> !based on debian
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142[00:35:08] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
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148[00:36:57] <bubb1> Can you run a full penetration test using
only debian?
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149[00:37:17] <n4dir> bubb1: probably.
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150[00:38:50] <bubb1> So if I could theoretically do it all from
a samsung galaxy note then? Or a N900 phone
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152[00:39:16] <annadane> those are two seperate questions
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153[00:39:24] <annadane> i guess it depends if you can install
debian on those
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156[00:40:08] <n4dir> there is (or was) a way to install
something like a "chroot"'ed debian on a smartphone.
Then all software from the repos should be availabe.
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157[00:40:34] <bubb1> Cool
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158[00:40:52] <annadane> oh, really? interesting
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162[00:43:30] <n4dir> annadane: i fooled with it in the past.
this was the how-to, i think:
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163[00:43:42] <n4dir> there probably is also a page at
wiki.debian.
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247[01:34:54] <[itchyjunk]> Hello, someone kind here linked me
to debian liveCD image with the non free wifi drivers. I was hoping
to find a way to dl it in unstable internet connection. torrent or
w/e :s
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250[01:37:43] <annadane> [itchyjunk], you can try wget, i know
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251[01:38:04] <annadane> not entirely certain however...
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252[01:38:38] <[itchyjunk]> would you happen to know the link
too? it was in the official debian site and i thought i would be
able to find it easy and didnt book mark it :s
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269[01:45:42] <ForceRecon> I am not sure how long ago that last
comment was made with the link.. How come, unless it has changed
there is no Official with Firmware dvd image and why is it called
non free
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286[01:59:28] <ghormoon> hi, is there a way to check what device
is under /dev/input/eventN? I suspect that the numbering is
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296[01:59:35] <Silvester> hello. for some reason I am forbidden
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297[01:59:37] <JordiGH> I've got a package with some quilt
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298[01:59:40] <JordiGH> It's for xchat.
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311[02:01:04] <nvz> ghormoon: read the file
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338[02:02:57] <Henry252> hi folks
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340[02:03:05] <ghormoon> thanks, at least I can do some checks
or maybe create some links myself (originally I've been using
/dev/input/by-path but since debian 9 most devices are not there :(
)
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343[02:03:07] <paqcito> Hi. I'm running a Debian distro and
following a tutorial, it says to run these commands. I can't
understand them very well. Someone willing to help me out?
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344[02:03:21] <somiaj> !based on debian
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345[02:03:21] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
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349[02:03:33] <Henry252> I'm trying to real quick,
slam-bam, install java 8 on this debian system so that my nephew can
play minecraft cause he isn't happy with minetest
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350[02:03:39] <Henry252> it's a skolelinux
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353[02:03:48] <Henry252> so it's pretty much debian, i
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358[02:04:32] <nvz> ghormoon: a beginning of a one-liner change
the event number and it'll print the name modify to suit: egrep
-B 4 "H*event0" /proc/bus/input/devices | grep N:
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361[02:05:19] <Henry252> i am trying apt-install openjdk-8-jre
but getting an error, unmet dependencies, depends on
openjdk-8-jre-headless
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365[02:05:48] <Henry252> when i try apt install
open-jdk-8-jre-headless, i get more unmet dependencies
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367[02:05:58] <Henry252> can anybody help me out with this?
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368[02:06:14] <somiaj> Henry252: read the factoid about based on
debian that dpkg said up there
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370[02:06:28] <ghormoon> nvz: yeah, something like it. or just
find ID by name and set a variable (I'm passing touchpad
toquoemu. once in 3-4 reoots, it's not on the same event4 :))
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371[02:06:41] <ghormoon> *to qemu
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372[02:06:53] <Henry252> somiaj: i thought that skolelinux was a
debian pure blend
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379[02:07:58] <Henry252> anyway i understand if nobody can help
but i figure it's probably something simple
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380[02:08:03] <somiaj> Henry252: didn't recognize it, it
maybe a pure blend, but dependencies issues like that shouldn't
be happening in stable.
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382[02:08:20] <Henry252> ok
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383[02:08:36] <annadane> Silvester, are you on a vpn?
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384[02:08:38] <Henry252> i'll just try an update and
upgrade
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385[02:08:41] <Henry252> thanks
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386[02:09:04] <Silvester> annadane : I am not
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387[02:09:16] <Silvester> I am not using any sort of proxy or
VPN right now
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388[02:09:21] <annadane> hm. because that's a known issue
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389[02:09:27] <annadane> i'm not sure, then
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390[02:09:46] <somiaj> Henry252: can you paste your apt-cache
policy at paste.debian.net
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400[02:12:12] <Silvester> I am sharing my IP with unknown people
in the neighbourhood because I have internet from a bootleg ISP here
in eastern europe
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404[02:12:28] <Silvester> so I suppose it is fair to believe my
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406[02:12:37] <Silvester> if someone knows how to hunt script
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407[02:12:53] <Henry252> hi somiaj
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408[02:12:58] <coruja> Debian Edu 9 Stretch is entirely based on
Debian 9 Stretch; so the sources for all packages are available from
the Debian archive.
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409[02:13:05] <Henry252> where can I get my apt-cache policy?
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410[02:13:17] <somiaj> Henry252: you type it into a terminal,
and share the output.
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412[02:13:55] <Henry252>
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414[02:15:12] <somiaj> Henry252: I think your issue is how you
have mixed in jessie and jessie-backports packages. since openjdk-8
is only in jessie-backports, you will need to include a -t
jessie-backports when you install that.
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416[02:15:39] <Henry252> somiaj: awesome!
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417[02:15:40] <Henry252> thank you!
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418[02:16:02] <Henry252> I've got an apt upgrade running
right now, is it safe to interrupt with a ctrl-c or should i just
let it finish?
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419[02:16:06] <disi> can a user exist but not be in /etc/passwd?
(no LDAP or AD)
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421[02:16:58] <somiaj> Henry252: you don't want to include
-t jessie-backports in an upgrade, this will pull in stuff you may
not want and are fully tested.
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422[02:17:11] <somiaj> Henry252: you need to manage which
packages you install from jessie and jessie-backports.
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424[02:17:21] <Henry252> i understand
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426[02:18:00] <somiaj> once you install stuff rom
jessie-backports it will upgrade that if there is an upgrade, but it
won't upgrade packages you don't specificy to be upgraded.
In general only install stuff from jessie-backports you really need.
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427[02:18:09] <Henry252> I'm just wondering if I should let
this apt upgrade finish before i do the apt install -t
jessie-backports openjdk-jre-8 or if it's ok to interrupt an
apt upgrade
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429[02:18:23] <Henry252> it's almost done anyway
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430[02:18:26] <Henry252> so i'll let it finish
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431[02:18:30] <somiaj> if it is just downloading packages you
can intrupt, otherwise leave alone.
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436[02:19:58] <Henry252> thanks somiaj
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437[02:20:00] <Henry252> awesome
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438[02:20:07] <Henry252> i'm out, be back later as henry151
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440[02:22:14] <allan_wind> logrotate runs `invoke-rc.d syslog-ng
reload` and it fails with policy-rc.d denied execution of reload.
How do I figure out why policy-rc.d syslog-ng reload 5 is denied?
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444[02:25:36] <allan_wind> heh
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445[02:25:46] <allan_wind> exit 101
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452[02:30:25] <allan_wind> k, how do I figure what installed
/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d? dpkg -S and apt-file doesn't turn
anything, and I don't have that file on a newly installed
machine
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454[02:32:41] <somiaj> if something in /usr/sbin is not
registered in dpkg -S,
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458[02:33:05] <somiaj> then it is either a bug, left behind due
to a bug, or from something besides a debian package.
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has 2 sata outs. my motherboard has 2 sata connections...so how am i
supposed to connect both harddrives AND the dvd that will be used to
launch clonezilla?
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clients website, is there any way to check available HD space
without df? it's not installed and I have no access but
I'm sure the HD is full and I'm losing functionality so I
want to confirm
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692[04:52:30] <nvz> slicepaperwords: there is not nearly enough
information to answer that. If you're jailed you only have
access to whats inside the jail, which you didnt specify. Also
webservers setup this way often use quotas in which case actual disk
space isnt necessarily the issue.
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699[04:54:30] <nvz> slicepaperwords: tune2fs -l /dev/sda1, and
others are options but only if you have those programs and you also
need access to /dev/ and /proc/ for most of them
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702[04:55:39] <slicepaperwords> nvz, I don't have any
access to anything but what's in the jail no sorry, also I am
getting disk quota exceeded error when I try to add to or copy a
file.
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705[04:56:22] <slicepaperwords> I just want to confirm there is
nothing I can do on my end, it's just a side gig for a non
profit
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709[04:56:40] <nvz> slicepaperwords: then you already know that
your quota is full, and even if you had any utils they wouldnt work
because they couldnt access /dev/ or /proc/ one or both would be
required to get the info those utilities provide
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710[04:56:48] <slicepaperwords> nvz, no I have no access to
those dirs.
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711[04:57:27] <nvz> slicepaperwords: df, tune2fs, or any other
util need to be able to open the device node or read data from
/proc/ or they wouldnt work anyhow
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712[04:57:38] <slicepaperwords> nvz, okay then I was right,
drunk me can do it!
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713[04:57:40] <allan_wind> slicepaperwords: well, you could fill
up the disk till you run out of disk space ;-)
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715[04:58:25] <slicepaperwords> allan_wind, I can't even
add a line to a php file without getting the disk quota exceeded
error
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716[04:58:32] <nvz> slicepaperwords: if you're really drunk
you should logout.. I dont really drink myself, dont care for it..
but I made a rule to never login as root on anything when I'm
intoxicated :P
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717[04:59:09] <nvz> slicepaperwords: you need a server admin if
you've reached your quota, this is the whole reason jails and
quotas exist, if you hit a limit you cant do anything about it
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718[04:59:44] <slicepaperwords> nvz, ha I'm fine obviously
I have no access to the server, just the site.. and I have backups
haha
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723[05:00:21] <nvz> slicepaperwords: well, you're better
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life :-P at least not of mine
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725[05:01:31] <slicepaperwords> nvz, haha I didn't do it, I
got asked to fix the site for a server transfer a few months back
and now asked to look at it for this issue, the backups were already
there
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728[05:04:33] <nvz> well now that I think if it, I do backups on
my palmos device cause those things have a high tendancy to crash or
run out of power and lose data and its really annoying.. but other
than that I classify data as material and dont put much value on
those things
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786[05:46:59] <veek> how do you do sudo -u veek --
'/usr/bin/wine' '/home/veek/.wine/drive_c/Program
Files/Tracker Software/PDF Viewer/PDFXCview.exe' %s in
kcmviewer4
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789[05:47:57] <veek> kcmshell4 filetypes
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790[05:48:33] <klys> if it doesn't let you then make a
script and stuff it in /usr/local/bin
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835[06:25:58] <Kobaz> anyone know of another app similar to
autokeys
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836[06:26:25] <Kobaz> i kind of remmeber an app back in the day
called hotkeys for setting up special keys on a laptop (volume,
etc)... can't seem to find it
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837[06:26:46] <Kobaz> autokeys seems cool, but it's
completely broken on stretch
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850[06:34:03] <Kobaz> xbindkeys maybe
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944[07:30:29] <darxmurf> morning
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951[07:32:36] <linuxlike> buongiorno
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953[07:32:53] <linuxlike> ho un problema con debian 9, o meglio
ho bisogno di aiuto per una modifica
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955[07:33:42] <towo^work> then you should ask in english
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957[07:35:11] <linuxlike> sorry
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958[07:35:26] <linuxlike> i use lamp in debian 9
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959[07:35:34] <linuxlike> with php7.0
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960[07:35:43] <linuxlike> i need to use php5.4 for compatibility
with my app....
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962[07:36:08] <linuxlike> developer reccomend me to use docker
for production with php5.4 container ( with ioncube loader )
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963[07:36:44] <linuxlike> i want ask you if possible to remove
php7.0 and install php5.4 without any issue / corruption of packet
in my distribution system...
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965[07:36:57] <linuxlike> any one can reccomend me best solution
??? ( stable solution )
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967[07:37:13] <linuxlike> actually my server run about 5 webapp
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968[07:37:21] <linuxlike> only 1 need to use php 5.4
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969[07:37:37] <linuxlike> but i think other app work fine also
with php5.4
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974[07:41:26] <darxmurf> well, why is your code not running on
PHP 7 ?
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975[07:41:57] <linuxlike> is old code builded with ioncube for
php5.4
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976[07:42:05] <linuxlike> o php 5.5 o 5.6
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977[07:42:23] <linuxlike> i have a message that ( not work on
php 7.0 )
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981[07:45:45] <darxmurf> upgrade your code :D
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987[07:47:24] <linuxlike> is encrypted and i have not the code
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1019[08:00:31] <gasull> Hi. I get this error when using addgroup:
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1020[08:00:31] <gasull> groupadd: failure while writing changes
to /etc/group
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1021[08:00:31] <gasull> addgroup: `/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1002
davfs2' returned error code 10. Exiting.
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1034[08:04:35] <gasull> How can I troubleshoot this?
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1037[08:05:07] <pingfloyd> gasull: you ran with root privs?
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1039[08:05:17] <gasull> yes
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1040[08:05:24] <gasull> I tried sudo first, then su.
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1045[08:06:02] <linuxlike> gasull, you have this issue with root
user ?
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1047[08:06:11] <gasull> yes
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1053[08:06:59] <darxmurf> gasull: if you run: grep davfs2
/etc/group
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1054[08:07:04] <darxmurf> do you have any result ?
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1055[08:07:15] <linuxlike> this fix
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1056[08:07:16] <linuxlike>
replaced-url
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1058[08:07:42] <gasull> darxmurf: No results
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1061[08:08:08] <darxmurf> and: lsattr /etc/group
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1062[08:08:36] <linuxlike> guys any help with change pp version
??any suggest ?
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1063[08:08:52] <gasull> # lsattr /etc/group
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1064[08:08:52] <gasull> -------------e-- /etc/group
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1065[08:09:27] <gasull> darxmurf: I guess I need to change the
attributes as linuxlike says.
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1066[08:09:38] <darxmurf> don't think soo
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1067[08:09:39] <darxmurf> so
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1068[08:09:40] <darxmurf> :-)
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1069[08:09:51] <darxmurf> is your filesystem mounted read-write ?
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1071[08:10:54] <darxmurf> as root, try this: touch /etc/group
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1072[08:10:58] <darxmurf> do you have any error message ?
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1075[08:12:04] <gasull> darxmurf: no error with touch
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1076[08:12:23] <gasull> also:
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1077[08:12:23] <gasull> # chattr -i /etc/group
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1078[08:12:23] <gasull> # lsattr /etc/group
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1079[08:12:24] <gasull> -------------e-- /etc/group
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1080[08:13:01] <darxmurf> the chattr command was useless in your
case :-)
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1082[08:14:48] <darxmurf> lsattr /etc/gshadow ?
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1084[08:15:51] <gasull> # lsattr /etc/gshadow
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1085[08:15:51] <gasull> -------------e-- /etc/gshadow
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1094[08:20:08] <darxmurf> hmm weird
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1096[08:21:14] <darxmurf> do you have a file : /etc/group.lock ?
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1098[08:22:22] <gasull> # ls /etc/group*
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1099[08:22:22] <gasull> /etc/group /etc/group- /etc/group+
/etc/group.org
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1137[08:43:18] <trap-maid> so, i just cloned a full 500G drive to
a 1T drive using clonezilla. new drive works but df -h stll shows
sda as being pretty much full. did i miss a step?
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1144[08:46:45] <Iridos> well, you're basically transferring
the disk image
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1145[08:46:55] <Iridos> and the image keeps its size
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1147[08:47:06] <boser> hello. i get a messages, that my
'/var' is full. I have debian 8, what can i do/delete, to
get more spaces back?
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1151[08:47:40] <Iridos> trap-maid, you can probably resize the
partition with gparted on the new drive
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1153[08:48:05] <trap-maid> i can apt that right? or is tha only
available as a live dvd?
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1155[08:49:38] <Iridos> boser, mmh, probably apt-cache clean
… but that is a very temporary measure
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1157[08:50:39] <Iridos> that basically deletes the .deb files in
/var/cache/apt/archives/ … but that can/will fill up quickly
again
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1158[08:50:50] <Iridos> and the size of that archive is capped
anyway
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1159[08:50:58] <towo^work> i would oracle, the logs are filling
/var, but without exact infos ...
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1161[08:51:23] <trap-maid> is it normal for sda1 to be fat32?
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1162[08:51:40] <towo^work> trap-maid, it's your system
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1163[08:51:50] <towo^work> no one knows it besides you
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1164[08:52:05] <TeslasMHD> towo^work: Try to see with du -sh
/var/* which directory fills up all the space.
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1165[08:52:22] <towo^work> TeslasMHD, i do not have a problem
with /var
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1166[08:52:31] <trap-maid> on original install i did a clean
install from the debian cd. then i cloned that. i'm asking if
something went wrong at one of these two steps. i did NOT create a
fat32.
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1168[08:52:36] <boser> excusie me, what i do now:
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1169[08:52:41] <boser> 195 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 24
05:40 backups
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1170[08:52:41] <boser> 16 4 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 Mai 26
03:13 cache
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1171[08:52:41] <boser> 1540 4 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 3
14:54 ctdb
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1172[08:52:41] <boser> 8964 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 16
2017 games
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1173[08:52:41] <boser> 12 4 drwxr-xr-x 79 root root 4096 Aug 2
16:20 lib
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1175[08:53:09] <TeslasMHD> towo^work: Sorry, I mean boser. :-)
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1177[08:53:14] <towo^work> trap-maid, you use EFI?
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1178[08:53:22] <trap-maid> no idea.
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1179[08:53:43] <towo^work> trap-maid, do you think anyone here
has a crystalball?
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1181[08:53:57] <trap-maid> well anyway if i leave the fat32 swap
is between where my data is and the unalocated space is. tht's
goin to caus eissu eisn't it?
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1183[08:54:11] <boser> thats the '/var' with 'ls
-lisa'
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1185[08:54:23] <TeslasMHD> boser: Try du -sh /var/* to see the
space each directoy uses in /var.
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1186[08:54:40] <TeslasMHD> boser: As root user.
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1187[08:55:20] <trap-maid> towo^work: i don't expect anyone
to have a crystal ball. i said that i'm using completely stock
install off a clean HDD.
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1188[08:55:28] <trap-maid> everything automated.
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1190[08:56:06] <towo^work> trap-maid, again, it's your
system, you should know if your system is using EFI or BIOS
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1192[08:56:09] <trap-maid> however now tht i look again sda1
(fat32) is mapped to /boot/efi
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1193[08:56:34] <trap-maid> well i think it's using bios. it
looks like he boot screen i see on eveyr othe computer.
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1195[08:57:11] <towo^work> trap-maid, try think again, if you
have /boot/efi, you propably use efi instead of bios
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1197[08:57:49] <trap-maid> all i know is tha it's the blue
screen with options that everyone i've ever known in industry
calls bios.
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1200[08:58:24] <trap-maid> anyway tha's unimportant. is swap
being betwen my partition and the free space gona screw me?
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1202[08:58:26] <towo^work> trap-maid, no, that is called grub
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1203[08:58:36] <trap-maid> no before grub
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1204[08:58:37] <towo^work> and is even used with efi
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1205[08:58:47] <trap-maid> the "press delete to enter system
setup" thing
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1208[08:59:05] <trap-maid> if you are going to be condecending
maybe actually read what i say?
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1209[08:59:32] <boser> TeslasMHD:
replaced-url
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1212[09:00:14] <trap-maid> yep...i cant resize sda2 becaue of
swap and i can't move swap... >.<
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1213[09:00:42] <TeslasMHD> boser: There you see that /var/cache
uses all the space (1.6 Gigabyte).
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1219[09:01:44] <boser> TeslasMHD: can i delete complete the
'/var/cache' ? Or are they importeneds files?
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1221[09:02:44] <TeslasMHD> boser: Don't delete it. Run du
-sh /var/cache/* to see inside there which is is the largest
directory.
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1222[09:04:16] <boser> it is /var/cache/apt with 1,6 GB.
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1224[09:05:10] <TeslasMHD> boser: Run apt-cache clean as root.
You should think of maximazing your partition holding /var.
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1225[09:05:36] <boser> and there the archives
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1226[09:05:46] <TeslasMHD> boser: I mean apt clean.
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1236[09:07:29] <TeslasMHD> boser: As root.
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1237[09:07:35] <boser> ok, on jessie 'apt clean'
doesn't work, bur 'apt-get clean' works. thanks for
helping.
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1240[09:07:52] <boser> clear TeslasMHD
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1241[09:08:07] <boser> s/bur/but
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1243[09:08:17] <trap-maid> it would be cool if there was a way to
force my system to never exceed 1600x900 since my tv overscans
anything eyond tht. but hey looks like using swapoff to allow me to
do the modifications didn't kill my systme.
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1244[09:08:44] <TeslasMHD> boser: 1,6GB get usually quick used
for /var/cache/apt. Maybe think of a way to have a larger partition
holding the directory /var.
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1245[09:09:25] <Iridos> oh, right, it's apt-get
clean… sorry 'bout that
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1249[09:09:45] <Iridos> I had looked at the man-page of apt-cache
and wondered why it's not there
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1253[09:09:57] <boser> thx for the hint. I will think about it.
Thanks to all for the quick help.
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1254[09:10:44] <TeslasMHD> boser: It will be filled up again
after some updates or packages installed (after you downloaded
approxemately 1,6GB).
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1260[09:11:59] <Iridos> boser, I think you can set a different
limit for the size of that archive in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive
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1262[09:12:08] <boser> now i know where the problem is and can it
defight.
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1267[09:13:22] <rudi_s> Shouldn't latest apt versions
automatically clean that?
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1270[09:13:33] <boser> for the time, thx. Customer is calling me
up. I have to leave the office. see you later.
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1273[09:14:10] <TeslasMHD> boser: Bye, boser.
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1274[09:14:13] <rudi_s>
Binary::apt::APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages is now (since Stretch I
think) set to "false", so deb files of installed packages
should get deleted automatically.
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1278[09:15:02] <TeslasMHD> rudi_s: He still uses Jessie.
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1280[09:15:33] <towo^work> rudi_s, and it would only do that, if
he would use apt instead of apt-get
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1284[09:16:26] <Iridos> rudi_s, urgh.
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1285[09:16:39] <Iridos> those packages do/did come handy
sometimes
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1286[09:16:57] <Iridos> not crazily often… well, mostly
not… but it feels reassuring to have them
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1291[09:20:02] <rudi_s> towo^work: Why is apt vs. apt-get
relevant here?
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1293[09:20:18] <rudi_s> Iridos: That's why I have set it to
"true" in my apt.conf, but the default changed.
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1294[09:20:23] <rudi_s> TeslasMHD: Ah sorry, missed that.
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1295[09:20:25] <towo^work> because apt is cleaning the cache,
apt-get is not
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1297[09:20:44] <rudi_s> towo^work: But isn't this a general
APT option which is respected by both apt and apt-get?
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1299[09:20:52] <towo^work> try it out
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1300[09:20:55] <rudi_s> Or is it really just the apt program?
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1301[09:21:25] <rudi_s> Ah, I guess "Binary::apt::"
means it applies only to apt. Interesting, didn't know that.
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1305[09:21:54] <rudi_s> Thanks, will update my comment.
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1313[09:23:49] <shtrb> Is the installer (netinstall) use some
kind of geoip to identify the closest mirror ?
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replaced-url
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1319[09:25:57] <Herbgirl> Hey guys, I'm a lilttle bit shy
but a quickie about me : I'm a tiny, 4'9" and 85 lbs
(no not a little person)24 yr old California girl. I am always
hesitant to post my pic online cuz I always get told I look way
younger. I'm kinda wild but also very sweet, I love writing,
gardening, and sex *wink* . I wrote that article :-)
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1327[09:29:34] <TeslasMHD> Lol.
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1328[09:29:40] <TeslasMHD> Is that spam?
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1329[09:29:56] <shtrb> yes
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1411[10:29:18] <Iridos> rudi_s, yeah, but it won't change
for me because I won't install new systems, just do
upgrades… so… thanks, I don't think I would have
learned that for the next couple of years if you hadn't said :)
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1412[10:29:46] <andre144k> hello all - someone knows how to use
"grep" with excluding files which contains in complete
path "log"? i want grep all files which dont have *log* in
path/filename
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1413[10:30:31] <Iridos> all files what
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1415[10:30:47] <andre144k> all iles which contains
"hallo"
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1416[10:31:04] <andre144k> where no *log* in path/filename
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1419[10:31:46] <Iridos> all files on the whole system?
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1421[10:32:16] <Iridos> all files in one directory?
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1422[10:32:19] <andre144k> from current directory
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1423[10:32:21] <Iridos> all files below one directory?
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1426[10:33:28] <andre144k> yes!
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1428[10:34:46] <Iridos> that were two questions…
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1430[10:35:21] <Iridos> assuming it's just the ones in one
directory…
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1432[10:35:41] <Iridos> "shopt extglob" must show
"extglob on" for this to work
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1433[10:36:08] <Iridos> if it's off, you can switch it on
with shopt -s extglob
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1435[10:36:16] <Iridos> then the shell does the thing
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1437[10:36:21] <Iridos> for any command
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1438[10:36:32] <Iridos> e.g. ls -d !(*log*)
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1439[10:36:50] <Iridos> or, of course also grep hellp !(*log*)
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1452[10:41:44] <rudi_s> Iridos: np - it will change for you if
you use `apt` also on upgraded systems.
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1457[10:43:54] <andre144k> Iridos, u have a complete example?
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1459[10:44:10] <andre144k> i founded myself a way: grep -H hallo
`find -type f | grep -Ev log`
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1461[10:44:24] <andre144k> maybe there exists a better way
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1463[10:45:39] <jelly> !using find
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1464[10:45:39] <dpkg> from memory, using find is
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1465[10:46:23] <jelly> andre144k: find -type f \! -name
'*log*' -exec grep -H hallo {} +
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1467[10:46:52] <jelly> andre144k: read about "Operations in
bulk" from the wiki linked above
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1470[10:48:00] * jelly prefers find ... -print0 | xargs -0 ... instead
of -exec, less things to remember and have to potentially escape
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1471[10:48:47] <jelly> so in this case it would be something
like: find -type f \! -name '*log*' -print0 | xargs -0
grep -H hallo
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1480[10:53:45] <andre144k> thx jelly
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1483[10:54:51] <choice> Hello! Why do I have "Linux Kernel
Headers for development" installed? What is that?
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1484[10:55:05] <andre144k> jelly, thats with using -print0 ?
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1488[10:56:09] <petn-randall> choice: They are likely used when
you have non-free drivers that need to be built, for example nvidia
graphics.
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1489[10:56:44] <choice> petn-randall: Those are built from
source?
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1491[10:57:02] <petn-randall> choice: Usually, yes.
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1492[10:57:13] <petn-randall> choice: They build against the
kernel headers.
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1493[10:57:33] <choice> nvidia provides sourcecode for their
drivers?
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1494[10:57:47] <petn-randall> choice: No.
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1496[10:58:15] <petn-randall> choice: But the glue bits between
the binary blob from nvidia and the kernel needs compiling.
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1497[10:58:22] <choice> Why?
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1498[10:58:39] <petn-randall> choice: No idea, ask them why they
don't provide source.
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1500[10:58:55] <choice> I mean why needs the glue to be compiled.
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1501[10:59:01] <sandieg> hi good morning !
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1508[10:59:33] <sandiego> Guys can you tell me why fglrx-driver
isnt installing , ?
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1510[10:59:49] <BCMM> choice: the kernel doesn't provide a
long-term stable interface for kernel modules
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1511[10:59:59] <sandiego> it askes xorg-video-abi-xx
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1512[11:00:08] <choice> BCMM: What does that mean?
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1513[11:00:10] <BCMM> choice: but that's ok, because kernel
modules are usually built at the same time as the kernel anyway
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1514[11:00:10] <sandiego> i try to install em , says not
installable
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1516[11:00:38] <BCMM> choice: it means you can't take a
kernel module made for kernel A and load it in to kernel B
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1518[11:00:51] <BCMM> choice: where a and b are different
versions of the linux kernel
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1519[11:01:07] <choice> BCMM: So the modules get recompiled when
the kernel is updated?
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1520[11:01:12] <BCMM> choice: yes
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1522[11:01:21] <choice> Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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1523[11:01:22] <sandiego> && proprietary drivers, asks me
Xorg 6.9 im running Xserver 1.19.2_64a
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1524[11:01:51] <BCMM> choice: most kernel modules are "in
tree" - they live with the kernel source code and get built
when the linux kernel is built (i.e. by debian's
infrastructure, before you download it)
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1525[11:02:35] <BCMM> choice: however, there a few odds and ends
are maintained separately from the Linux kernel by 3rd parties
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1527[11:03:00] <BCMM> choice: there's a nice system in
debian called dkms, which will automatically recompile those
3rd-party drivers when you install a new kernel
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1528[11:03:12] <BCMM> and you probably have the kernel headers
around to enable that
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1531[11:04:42] <sandiego> ?? fglrx
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1533[11:04:49] <sandiego> !ask fglrx
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1534[11:04:57] <sandiego> how does the bot works nowdays
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1539[11:05:57] <petn-randall> sandiego: Depends on what you want
to achieve. There are several bots.
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1540[11:06:09] <petn-randall> !fglrx
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1541[11:06:09] <dpkg> fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary
display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series,
Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units.
To install fglrx, see
replaced-url
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1544[11:06:54] <sandiego> well: petn-randall : im trying to
acchieve 3D accel on grafics r9 fury
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1550[11:08:44] <sandiego> im trying final setup driver
"radeon"
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1551[11:08:48] <sandiego> ;)
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1594[11:31:45] <Murda> Any nice guide how to set up chrooted
sftp/ssh user?
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serverfault that weren't too horrible
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1611[11:37:25] <rjsalts> Murda:
replaced-url
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1616[11:40:24] <amd_0x51> what is a reasonable DPI setting to get
a universal font size
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1617[11:40:35] <amd_0x51> iv got it at 101 x 102 right now but
too small
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1618[11:41:09] <amd_0x51> and why does nvidia make the fonts so
large when you install it?
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1621[11:43:37] <Trap-Chan> i don't want to do it but am
curious can the root user's name be changed or is it hard coded
to be root on all systems and renaming it would totally break the
system?
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1624[11:44:15] <rjsalts> Trap-Chan: you can rename it, you might
break things though
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1631[11:46:37] <rjsalts> Trap-Chan: see man 7 capabilities
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1636[11:50:56] <amd_0x51> here is a paste of my xorg log. where
can I find more info on how to correctly set fonts so I don't
have to lean right into my screens lol
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1637[11:50:57] <amd_0x51>
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1638[11:50:59] <amd_0x51> tia
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1648[11:56:29] <c75> Hi, is it possible to replace systemd with
something else in a stretch install, or is switching to devuan the
only option? Are there systemd-free ISOs of debian like there are
ISOs with xfce or proprietary firmware baked in?
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1654[11:58:09] <ntinos>
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1656[11:58:38] <jelly> !stretch sysvinit
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1657[11:58:38] <dpkg> To replace systemd with sysvinit in
stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and
reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install
runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init",
and reboot again.
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1662[11:59:36] <c75> thanks
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1701[12:17:51] <lmmin> Hi. Is it possible to install KDE4 in
Debian 9 instead KDE5? Thanks.
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1706[12:20:58] <themill> lmmin: no
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1708[12:21:52] <lmmin> <themill> Thank you.
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1710[12:22:29] <ntinos> You could always try using Jessie repos
(with low pin-priority of course).
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1711[12:22:40] <ntinos> Though except stuff to get broken.
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1712[12:22:46] <towo^work> that would not work even
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1719[12:25:14] <lmmin> <ntinos> <towo^work> Thanks.
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1729[12:29:26] <Agiofws> how do i find the version of a package
using the command line?
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1731[12:29:33] <Agiofws> an installed package
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1736[12:31:21] <vlt> Agiofws: `dpkg -l <package>` might
help.
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1751[12:36:37] <DieMoesch> Agiofws apt-cache search
<string> and apt-cache policy <string>
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1797[13:02:11] <Eternal> hello. Whats the name of the current
debian testing distribution?
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1798[13:02:55] <Eternal> I mean codename
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1840[13:23:31] <Agiofws> does debian use xinetd to restart
services?
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1845[13:24:56] <McErroneous> where do i find additional
sound-themes for my gnome-desktop ? only 4 or 5 themes appears to be
somewhat lacking..., or poor.... as not rich in features...
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1846[13:25:03] <petn-randall> Agiofws: No, unless you configure
it to do so.
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1847[13:25:14] <Agiofws> ok
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1849[13:25:30] <tdn> I am trying to publish and sign my packages
on a custom repos but when I run reprepro, it says: "gpgme gave
error GPGME:11: Bad passphrase" without prompting me for
password. I have tried adding --ask-passphrase to reprepro, but it
does not seem to have an effect. What to do?
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1850[13:25:34] <tdn> This is what I have in my Makefile to upload
the package: scp *.deb $(UPLOAD):$(UPLOAD_DIR) && ssh -CY
$(UPLOAD) "cd $(REPOS_DIR) && for deb in
$(UPLOAD_DIR)/*.deb; do reprepro --keepunreferencedfiles includedeb
$(OSRELEASE) \$$deb; done; rm -f $(UPLOAD_DIR)/*.deb"
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1855[13:27:07] <bs0d> Hello community. I'd like to install
debian on Odroid C2. Does arm64 version contain all the necessary
drivers?
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1857[13:27:47] <aptDeb> hi , how to remove totem player only from
debian?
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1858[13:28:50] <towo^work> "only from debian"?
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1860[13:29:08] <aptDeb> only remove totem, not gnome-core
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1861[13:29:20] <bazhang> size 232 kB
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1863[13:29:27] <bazhang> thats tiny
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1864[13:30:22] <towo^work> aptDeb, if gnome-core will be removed,
ket it go
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1865[13:30:33] <towo^work> it's only a metapackage
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1866[13:30:45] <phasta> I don't get it. Why not apt remove
totem?
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1867[13:30:52] <aptDeb> like ie in windows?
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1868[13:31:21] <towo^work> phasta, because gnome-core will be
removed too?
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1869[13:31:33] <towo^work> aptDeb, what "like in
windoes"?
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1871[13:32:06] <aptDeb> I mean IE browser cannot being removed
from Windows system
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1872[13:32:22] <towo^work> totem can
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1873[13:32:27] <aptDeb> totem cannot being removed from Debian?
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1874[13:32:28] <towo^work> apt purge totem
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1875[13:32:35] <towo^work> where is the problem?
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1877[13:33:02] <petn-randall> aptDeb: If you want to remove
totem, do just that. I'm assuming you're running 'apt
autoremove' and it's suggesting to remove more packages?
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1878[13:33:16] <petn-randall> aptDeb: In that case you have to
mark all packages you want to keep as manually installed.
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1879[13:33:36] <nadersith> you can use this:
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1881[13:34:00] <nadersith> sudo apt-mark manual $(grep -vE
"^\s*#" packageList.txt | tr "\n" " ")
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1882[13:34:13] <aptDeb> The following packages will be REMOVED:
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1883[13:34:16] <aptDeb> gnome-core* totem* totem-plugins*
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1884[13:34:18] <aptDeb> The above is the information tipped after
'apt-get purge totem'
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1885[13:34:18] <nadersith> but first do this:
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1887[13:34:26] <towo^work> aptDeb, and?
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1888[13:34:27] <nadersith> apt-get —dry-run autoremove |
grep -Po '^Remv \K[^ ]+' > packageList.txt
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1890[13:34:42] <petn-randall> aptDeb: Use a paste site like
replaced-url
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1891[13:34:43] <towo^work> gnome-core does not contain anything
besides depends to some packages
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1892[13:34:48] <nadersith> sorry
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1894[13:35:19] <Zualg> hi. i would like my debian machine to be
ssh'able on my lan and at the same time have an wireless
internet connection coming from a router that is not in that lan.
problem is that as soon as wlan0 has an ip and inet connection, eth0
(lan) loses its ip
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1896[13:35:38] <Zualg> or vice versa eth0 (lan) has a local ip
but then wlan0 is not connected to the internet anymore
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1897[13:35:48] <Zualg> maybe it has to do with dhclient, I am not
sure; could anyone help?
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1898[13:35:57] <petn-randall> Zualg: Sounds like both interfaces
get a default route via DHCP.
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1901[13:36:41] <Zualg> petn-randall: yes, I think it has to do
with dhcp, but I don't know how to fix it
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1902[13:37:11] <Zualg> in my /etc/network/interfaces I commented
out the lines allow-hptlug eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp
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1904[13:37:18] <petn-randall> bs0d: Looks like the odroid C2
needs some proprietary kernel blobs to work.
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1905[13:37:29] <Zualg> so now there is only auto lo / iface lo
inet loopback in there
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1907[13:37:41] <petn-randall> Zualg: And then?
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1910[13:38:11] <Zualg> petn-randall: then restarted networking..
but it still doesnt work
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1911[13:38:34] <petn-randall> Zualg: So you have eth0/wlan0
completely unconfigured ... and expect what now?
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1915[13:39:14] <petn-randall> Zualg: Restarting networking
doesn't do what you'd expect, it doesn't bring
interfaces down that you removed from /etc/network/interfaces.
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1919[13:39:29] <petn-randall> !restart networking
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1920[13:39:30] <dpkg> From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
onwards, the use of the networking init script to reload networking
configuration («/etc/init.d/networking restart») is
discouraged. Instead, perform the actions you really want. Re-apply
changes from /etc/network/interfaces: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. Remove
all iptables rules: iptables -F. See also <mdblows>.
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1921[13:40:11] <Posterdati> hi
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1922[13:40:14] <Zualg> ok mom
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1923[13:40:56] <Zualg> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
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1924[13:41:24] <ForceRecon> how do you launch gnupg
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1925[13:41:37] <abrotman> ForceRecon: launch it to do what?
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1927[13:42:53] <ForceRecon> I want to send an encrypted message
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1931[13:43:16] <sandiego> guys hi!
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1933[13:43:22] <ForceRecon> I just can't seem to figure out
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encrypt the message
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1935[13:43:45] <petn-randall> Zualg: Then it's unconfigured
now. Is that what you want?
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1936[13:43:49] <sandiego> im running debian strech! with vesa
driver on X env , how do i setup it to run steam with 3D video
accelaration ?
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1937[13:44:20] <petn-randall> !steam
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1938[13:44:20] <dpkg> Steam is a proprietary content delivery and
management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged
in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable
<multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with
upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net.
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1940[13:44:42] <Zualg> petn-randall: no, i would like eth0 to be
connected to my lan router
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1942[13:44:58] <sandiego> petn-randall, i have it all setup games
are running with 60 fps 50 fps max i own a radeon r9 fury :(
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1943[13:45:00] <Zualg> ifup eth0 says: Ignoring unknown interface
eth0=eth0.
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1944[13:45:23] <sandiego> direct rendering YES
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1946[13:47:23] <sandiego> native steam btw
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1947[13:48:02] <sandiego> i tryed to install ati-driver-fglrx.run
from ati website says my xorg is not 6.9 nor xserver is 1.10 ?
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1950[13:48:22] <sandiego> how to downgrade xorg or xserver from
apt
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1955[13:49:27] <abrotman> VESA doesn't have accelerated Xorg
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1956[13:49:28] <petn-randall> Zualg: You just removed the
configuration lines from /etc/network/interfaces, of course
"ifup eth0" won't work anymore. Let's step back
a bit: You have a Debian machine, and that's connected via
wlan0 and eth0 to networks. Are those the same networks?
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1957[13:49:56] <sandiego> abrotman, how should i do
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1958[13:50:10] <abrotman> how should you do what?
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1959[13:50:13] <Zualg> petn-randall: no; eth0 is connected to my
router which currently doesnt have inet access. wlan0 is connected
to my phone which does
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1960[13:50:21] <abrotman> sandiego: lspci -nn | grep -i vga ..
what is your video card?
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1961[13:50:38] <Zualg> (and the eventual goal is to use the
machine as a proxy for inet)
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1962[13:50:47] <sandiego> abrotman, scroll up
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1963[13:51:01] <sandiego> VGA compatible controller [0300]:
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO
Series] [1002:7300] (rev cb)
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1965[13:51:22] <abrotman> did you install the firmware for the
radeon cards?
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1966[13:51:33] <petn-randall> Zualg: So you want to configure it
to be a router? So the wlan0 will be a wifi AP and eth0 will be
connected to the internet?
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1969[13:53:03] <sandiego> what is the name of the package
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1970[13:53:07] <sandiego> abrotman, ?
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1972[13:53:24] <abrotman> dpkg: tell sandiego about radeon
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1973[13:53:31] <Zualg> petn-randall: i will launch an ssh tunnel
for eth0 to use the machine as a proxy basically
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1974[13:53:50] <sandiego> yes
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1975[13:54:00] <sandiego> dpkg: tell sandiego about radeon
firmware
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1976[13:54:29] <sandiego> firmware-linux-nonfree is already the
newest version (0.43).
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1977[13:54:33] <sandiego> MORE
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1978[13:54:35] <sandiego> :)
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1982[13:57:17] <sandiego> dpkg tell sandiego about
xorg-video-abi-19 not installable
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1983[13:57:26] <sandiego> dpkg tell sandiego about
xorg-video-abi-19
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1985[13:58:09] <sandiego>
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1986[13:58:11] <sandiego> look this
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1987[13:58:12] <sandiego> wired
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1988[13:58:21] <sandiego> wierd :((
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1989[13:58:43] <Posterdati> please I have a problem with an i7
uefi machine...
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1992[14:01:19] <sandiego> and this when i try to install fglrx
from the source :
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1993[14:01:34] <sandiego> anyone advice me a good solution for
this case?
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2173[14:08:29] <Zualg> petn-randall: on wlan0
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I'm having trouble executing a script with root privileges to
create a subdirectory in /media; and it doesn't work with sudo
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2378[14:39:17] <keiser_> hi, I have an issue with
caja/mate-desktop 1.18.3-1 running debian sid. When I log in to my
account I see all the filesystems mounted in the left corner of caja
and also on the desktop (efi, dev, hugepages, mqueue, pts, shm,
proc, run, lock, 1000, sys, etc). It happened after I update debian
yestarday. Is there a way to fix that?
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2379[14:39:38] <keiser_> Here is the screenshot:
replaced-url
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2381[14:40:27] <cruncher> keiser_, for sid you should go to
#debian-next
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2382[14:40:35] <cruncher> on oftc
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2383[14:40:44] <keiser_> ok, sorry
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2384[14:40:47] <cruncher> np
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2393[14:45:26] <sandieg> dpkg tell about lndir
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2394[14:45:39] <sandieg> what package provide lndir ?
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2395[14:45:43] <sandieg> for shadow tree
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2400[14:46:43] <sandieg> dpkg: tell about sandieg lndir shadow
tree
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2401[14:46:51] <sandieg> wtf...
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2404[14:48:01] <jelly> sandieg: what is "lndir"?
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2409[14:49:22] <jelly> sandieg: a program, an executable
filename?
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2410[14:50:36] <yemel> meh... I've upgraded from jessie to
stretch and my gtk3 theme that I wrote is completely broken and
looks ugly... I see a lot of deprecated stuff there... this is so
retarted. why gtk devs like to break their shit?
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2411[14:51:45] <jelly> sandieg: if so, ask the other bot to
search for it: /msg judd file bin/lndir
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2412[14:51:54] <jelly> !apt-file
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2413[14:51:55] <dpkg> apt-file is a utility used to find which
package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it
is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file &&
apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to
see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular
expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me
about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>,
<dlocate>.
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2414[14:52:34] <jelly> sandieg: or use apt-file
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2415[14:52:57] <jelly> or search contents on packages.debian.org
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2420[14:54:19] <NNMPCDO> Hey. How long time take it to make
package from test faze to stable faze ? 1 Year or more ?
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2423[14:54:59] <apollo13> NNMPCDO: till the next release of
debian, packages generally do not migrate from testing to stable at
all afaik
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2425[14:55:28] <sypher> It may wind up in backports, potentially.
Depends on if its build requirements are satisfied.
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2426[14:55:33] <petn-randall> NNMPCDO: When it's
ready™. But usually the stable releases are around two years
apart.
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2427[14:55:40] <NNMPCDO> When googl-ing for faze cycles of Debian
what it's good fair source of information?
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2429[14:55:53] <petn-randall> NNMPCDO: What do you mean with
"faze"?
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2432[14:56:09] <NNMPCDO> Cycle of release.
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2434[14:56:56] <NNMPCDO> Faze as substitute of Cycle
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2436[14:57:05] <petn-randall> NNMPCDO: Then what I said, very
roughly every two years, give or take several months.
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2437[14:58:09] <petn-randall> NNMPCDO: Here you can see the
release history of previous releases:
replaced-url
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2441[14:59:16] <NNMPCDO> So in stable release package aren't
update ?
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2442[15:00:23] <NNMPCDO> Nor only secure update?
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2445[15:02:08] <Cobalt> Anyone know why my udev rule to mkdir a
directory in /media exits with exit code 1 and fails under Stretch
but works in Jessie?
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2448[15:04:02] <jelly> NNMPCDO: yes, with a very very small
number of exceptions. Eg. web browsers.
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2449[15:04:09] <jelly> ,v chromium
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2450[15:04:10] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy:
37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1;
jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security:
57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 59.0.3071.86-1;
stretch-proposed-updates: 60.0.3112.78-1~deb9u1; stretch-security:
60.0.3112.78-1~deb9u1; buster: 60.0.3112.78-1; sid: 60.0.3112.78-1
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2455[15:05:29] <NNMPCDO> I want to contact whit some one, who
make auto detection of Xorg server config - on open source driver
and when in system are 2 or more Graphic card - and each has monitor
- auto detection not work in clone mode
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2456[15:06:59] <NNMPCDO> On 2 card switch between card nor and
each Monitor work one on time not in clone mode
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2457[15:07:00] <sandieg> is it available xorg 6.9 on apt package
manager ?
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2458[15:07:08] <sandieg> or higher
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2460[15:07:28] <jelly> ,v xserver-xorg-core
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2461[15:07:29] <judd> Package: xserver-xorg-core on amd64 --
wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u7;
jessie-security: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1; jessie: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1;
stretch: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u1;
buster: 2:1.19.3-2; sid: 2:1.19.3-2
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2462[15:07:43] <jelly> sandieg: available for which release?
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2463[15:07:49] <sandieg> streched
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2464[15:07:52] <sandieg> strech
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2465[15:08:06] <jelly> no, stretch has like 7.7
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2466[15:08:14] <sandieg> what package is it
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2467[15:08:20] <jelly> ,v xorg
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2468[15:08:21] <judd> Package: xorg on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:7.7+3~deb7u1; jessie: 1:7.7+7; buster: 1:7.7+19; sid: 1:7.7+19;
stretch: 1:7.7+19
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2470[15:08:36] <sandieg> pkg install xorg does the trick ?
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2471[15:08:43] <jelly> !install x
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2472[15:08:43] <dpkg> To install X in Debian: "aptitude
update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to
install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>,
<install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or
a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure
your X server, ask me about <xorg config>.
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2473[15:09:01] <sandieg> no all i want is to install source
ati/amd
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2474[15:09:04] <sandieg> .run file
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2475[15:09:19] <jelly> sandieg: why are you asking abour xorg
then
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2476[15:09:19] <towo^work> no, you won't do that
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2477[15:09:31] <jelly> !goal
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2478[15:09:31] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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2479[15:09:45] <sandieg> my goal is to install 3D
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2480[15:09:50] <sandieg> accel on fluxbox
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2481[15:09:59] <sandieg> ati radeon r9 fury
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2482[15:10:01] <jelly> sandieg: which graphic card do you have
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2483[15:10:05] <sandieg> ati radeon r9 fury
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2484[15:10:11] <NNMPCDO> :)
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2485[15:10:12] <towo^work> install firmware-graphics-amd
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2487[15:10:23] <towo^work> don't try to install fglrx
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2488[15:10:23] <jelly> sandieg: what does "lspci -nn |grep
VGA" say?
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2489[15:10:57] <sandieg> lspci -nn |grep VGA : 01:00.0 VGA
compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series] [1002:7300] (rev cb)
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2490[15:11:16] <jelly> judd: pciid 1002:7300
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2491[15:11:17] <judd> [1002:7300] is 'Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY /
NANO Series]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel',
'amdgpu' in stretch. See also
replaced-url
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2492[15:12:06] <jelly> sandieg: so you already have xorg and
fluxbox running?
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2494[15:13:18] <sandieg> yup
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2496[15:13:23] <sandieg> jelly
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2497[15:13:43] <rozie> hi. I'm looking for step by step
tutorial how to make deb package from python module
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2498[15:13:43] <sandieg> and warsow game actually opens
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2499[15:13:52] <sandieg> and run with 30/50 fps
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2500[15:13:53] <sandieg> not more
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2501[15:14:02] <rozie> I'd like to install it debian way
system wide
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2507[15:17:21] <sandieg> anyone, jelly
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2509[15:18:42] <towo^work> sandieg, have you
firmware-amd-graphics installed?
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2510[15:18:48] <jelly> ,v firmware-amd-graphics
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2511[15:18:49] <judd> Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 --
jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; buster/non-free:
20161130-3; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3; sid/non-free: 20170823-1
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2512[15:18:53] <sandieg> towo^work, yes
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2513[15:18:58] <sandieg> yes yes
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2515[15:19:07] <jelly> sandieg: and is libgl1-mesa-dri package
installed?
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2517[15:19:25] <jelly> that's for free drivers
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2519[15:19:53] <towo^work> sandieg, i would like to see you
Xorg.0.log
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2520[15:20:02] <towo^work> s/you/your
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2522[15:20:46] <sandieg>
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2523[15:20:47] <sandieg>
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2524[15:22:16] <sandieg> towo^work, how do i copy to paste debian
is to long the file
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2528[15:23:21] <towo^work> sandieg, apt install pastebinit
&& pastebinit < /path/to/Xorg.0.log
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2529[15:23:31] <sandieg> moment
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2530[15:23:37] <towo^work> sandieg, and again, you can't
install fglrx on stretch
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2531[15:24:05] <towo^work> sandieg, fglrx is dead and not
maintained anymore by amd
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2537[15:26:08] <sandieg> sure
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2538[15:26:16] <sandieg> i know that man
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2540[15:27:10] <sandieg> towo^work,
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2541[15:27:36] <towo^work> Kernel command line:
BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/murtas--vg-root
nomodeset
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2542[15:27:49] <towo^work> nomodeset <== then you wonder?
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2543[15:28:00] <telnes> hello I try to test the noexec option on
/tmp part but nothing change. here an example
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2544[15:28:15] <towo^work> radeon needs KMS
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2545[15:28:24] <towo^work> without it, 3d can't work
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2548[15:29:06] <telnes> I use LVM part for /tmp.
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2551[15:29:27] <towo^work> sandieg, Using config file:
"/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
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2552[15:29:37] <towo^work> sandieg, you don't need a
xorg.conf
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2553[15:29:45] <cruncher> telnes, did you type it exactly as in
the example? use "/tmp/ls", not just "ls"
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2554[15:29:51] <vlt> telnes: LVM doesn't matter here.
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2555[15:30:09] <telnes> cruncher: ! no just ls :)
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2556[15:30:14] <sandieg> deleted
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2557[15:30:27] <sandieg> rerun x?
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2560[15:30:50] <telnes> Permission deniend \o/
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2561[15:30:51] <sandieg> towo^work, i just deleted xorg.conf
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2562[15:30:57] <sandieg> should i rerun xorg now ?
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2563[15:31:16] <telnes> cool thanks cruncher vlt
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2564[15:31:16] <towo^work> sandieg, from your paste
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2565[15:31:25] <sandieg> fixed
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2566[15:31:29] <towo^work> sandieg, and remove nomodeset
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2567[15:31:30] <sandieg> now what is the name of the driver
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2568[15:31:32] <vlt> telnes: Btw ... even when you are _in_ /tmp,
running `ls` will use /bin/ls if you don't explicitly specify
`./ls`.
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2569[15:31:37] <sandieg> im using
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2570[15:31:52] <towo^work> sandieg, you need
xserver-xorg-video-ati installed
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2571[15:32:07] <telnes> vlt: yes I understand my error
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2572[15:32:40] <sandieg> done
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2573[15:32:42] <sandieg> now ?
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2574[15:33:02] <towo^work> reboot?
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2576[15:34:32] <sandieg> ok
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2577[15:34:33] <sandieg> brb
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2578[15:34:37] <sandieg> ty towo^work
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2579[15:34:39] <sandieg> :)
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2580[15:34:43] <sandieg> and jelly
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2626[15:53:22] <a0z> hi, i'm considering an ssd for my old
2011 laptop. once fitted, are there any special things i have to do
to debian to get it to install and run okay? all my googling finds
out-dated stuff about TRIM and wear-leveling. are these still a
concern?
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2627[15:54:18] <tremolo> I didn't do anything special when
installing Stretch on my laptop with an SSD.
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2628[15:54:22] <cruncher> a0z, you should activate trim, and
depending on your partition layout also mount with noatime
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2630[15:54:34] <cruncher> otherwise, installation is the same as
with a hd
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2631[15:54:47] <cruncher> also you should watch out that the
partitions are aligned
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2632[15:55:00] <cruncher> thats basically all basics :)
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2634[15:55:18] <cruncher> of course you can optimize more...
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2637[15:56:18] <a0z> thx
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2639[15:56:45] <petn-randall> Premature optimization is the root
of all evil.
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2640[15:57:25] <cruncher> a0z, maybe you want to check what brand
before buying, as some brands offer firmware updater for linux,
others dont, some have known trouble, etc
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2642[15:58:36] <a0z> cruncher: i ended up reading linux kernel
source code at one point, linked from a page that was annoyed at
samsung's ssd's
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2643[15:58:48] <cruncher> but for a normal use, one time install,
then only use, thats maybe too much information
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2644[15:59:11] <cruncher> a0z, yes, exactly that page shows some
models which arent supposed to be very compatible, resp. have some
trouble.
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2645[15:59:42] <cruncher> a0z, and im afraid i already gave too
much information in this channel as this is offtopic
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2646[16:00:23] <a0z> cruncher: thx; tremolo: thx
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2669[16:10:32] <Ormu> so nowadays even hard disks
"need" firmware updates?
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2671[16:11:14] <qman__> firmware updates for disks has been a
thing for almost 20 years now
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2673[16:11:27] <transhuman> hi! quick question I have a debian
live dvd, and two hard drives 1/2 TB and a 1TB I would like to as a
backup clone 1/2 TB to 1TB drive, it appears to contain errors,
would dd work in this case?
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2675[16:12:05] <petn-randall> transhuman: Which one contains
errors?
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2676[16:12:08] <jelly> transhuman: use dd_rescue or ddrescue to
copy what you can
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2677[16:12:13] <transhuman> clonzilla fails to copy the drive,
also doesnt tell me even in the logs if its the source or
destination
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2678[16:12:23] <transhuman> ok thanks jelly
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2681[16:12:50] <petn-randall> transhuman: Looking into dmesg
output usually helps finding the culprit.
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2682[16:12:51] <jelly> and do it while the source is not mounted,
or mounted read-only
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2683[16:13:09] <transhuman> right of course read only thanks
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2685[16:13:20] <transhuman> I will look at dmesg thanks
petn-randall
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2692[16:16:35] <transhuman> jelly dd_rescue seems just the right
tool thanks
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2698[16:21:00] <sandiego>
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2699[16:21:21] <sandiego> something wrong this time towo^work
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2708[16:24:12] <sandiego> The following packages have unmet
dependencies:
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2709[16:24:12] <sandiego> xserver-xorg-video-glamo : Depends:
xorg-video-abi-18
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2710[16:24:12] <sandiego> E: Unable to correct problems, you have
held broken packages.
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2711[16:24:20] <sandiego> (
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2712[16:24:23] <sandiego> :(
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2715[16:26:46] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
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2716[16:26:46] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
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2717[16:26:48] <jelly> sandiego: ^^
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2722[16:28:47] <sandiego> jelly: :P
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2725[16:29:47] <sandiego> the error: (EE) Fatal server error:(EE)
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0(EE) (EE) Please consult the
The X.Org Foundation support at
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2726[16:29:52] <sandiego> now the troubleshooting
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2727[16:29:53] <sandiego> sec
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2729[16:29:58] <sandiego> using pastebin
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2734[16:31:23] <sandiego> just let me recap: xorg is installed
ati is installed
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2735[16:31:27] <sandiego> xinit intalled
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2737[16:31:34] <sandiego> startx says error screen
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2740[16:31:47] <sandiego> i also removed xorg.conf
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2741[16:31:53] <sandiego> what might be the problem
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2743[16:31:58] <petn-randall> sandiego: One step at a time. Start
with the info you have been asked for first.
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2753[16:34:54] <sandiego> xserver-xorg-video-ati vs
xserver-xorg-video-radeon . both installed or just one ?
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2754[16:35:01] <sandiego> ahhh ok petn-randall ! :P starting
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2756[16:36:34] <jelly> sandiego: if you installed
"xorg" package you would probably have both, and
that's jsut fine
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2759[16:37:01] <jelly> (xserver-xorg-video-all pulls in all the
free 2D drivers)
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2760[16:37:26] <jelly> (including xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu)
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2762[16:38:09] <sandiego> another businiss: .xinitrc
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2763[16:38:15] <sandiego> do i need one ?
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2764[16:38:18] <sandiego> for fluxbox
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2766[16:38:31] <sandiego> sandieg@murtas:~$ startfluxbox
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2767[16:38:31] <sandiego> xmodmap: unable to open display
''
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2768[16:38:31] <sandiego> Error: Couldn't connect to XServer
passing null display
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2773[16:39:28] <sandiego> is not defined my $DISPLAY rofl
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2775[16:39:37] <sandiego> echo $DISPLAY
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2776[16:39:46] <sandiego> post output plz jelly
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2778[16:39:54] <jelly> sandiego: sorry?
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2780[16:40:17] <sandiego> jelly: post output of your "echo
$DISPLAY"
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2781[16:40:25] <sandiego> what does it say
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2782[16:40:40] <jelly> I don't have any output to post. You
however have some apt issues to solve apparently.
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2784[16:41:12] <jelly> sandiego: that will depend of if you run
it before X is started or inside a running X session
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2785[16:41:28] <jelly> depend on* whether*
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2786[16:41:29] <sandiego> why?
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2787[16:41:37] <Murda> is there limit how big file I can transfer
bia sftp?
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2788[16:41:39] <Murda> via*
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2791[16:41:53] <sandiego> nvm
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2793[16:41:59] <jelly> <sandiego> The following packages
have unmet dependencies:
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2794[16:41:59] <jelly> <sandiego> xserver-xorg-video-glamo
: Depends: xorg-video-abi-18
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2796[16:42:27] <jelly> Murda: not really
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2816[16:48:18] <sandiego> i think i found mesa missing package
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2817[16:48:19] <sandiego> :P
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2818[16:48:21] <sandiego> ty
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2819[16:48:44] <sandiego> Get:1
replaced-url
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2820[16:48:46] <sandiego> Get:2
replaced-url
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2821[16:48:50] <sandiego> missing both
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2838[16:55:45] <petn-randall> A lot of noise, but still no debug
info ... :|
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2839[16:56:33] <jelly> they probably read the bit about
libgl1-mesa-dri from hour and half back just now and fixed things
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2843[16:58:23] <Cobalt> Hello.
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2846[16:59:11] <Cobalt> What would be the correct way of
automagically mounting a connected USB external storage device to a
mountpoint we would create under /media, and to (if accidentally)
removed, will rmdir that mountpoint as well?
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2881[17:11:05] <jhutchins_wk> !fr
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2882[17:11:05] <dpkg> Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez
rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french,
please go to #debianfr.
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2883[17:12:02] <frazr> Is amdccle control panel available for
stretch? Trying to find a control panel gui, but cant seem to
install it.
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2884[17:12:04] <telnes> where can I found output code of apt-get
? I see 0 when no error and 100 when error but are there a doc
somewhere ?
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2886[17:12:24] <frazr> These damn ati cards :(
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2887[17:13:01] <petn-randall> telnes: 'man apt-get',
section DIAGNOSTICS.
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2888[17:13:18] <telnes> petn-randall: thanks I check
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2891[17:13:38] <petn-randall> (it pretty much is just what you
said, though)
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2896[17:13:59] <telnes> apt-get returns zero on normal
operation, decimal 100 on error. OK
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2897[17:14:04] <telnes> no more code :/
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2900[17:14:21] <jhutchins_wk> telnes: Check the man page(es),
chech /usr/share/doc/apt*
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2905[17:15:37] <petn-randall> AFAIK that's all there is.
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2911[17:18:04] <techtonic> I'm having issues with cron. I
can make it launch a script that echoes to a file but nothing else
works. I can't use xrandr or notify-send. I tried adding the
full path like /usr/bin/notify-send and that doesn't help
either
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2913[17:18:11] <jhutchins_wk> Might be something buried on the
wiki or the debian web pages.
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2914[17:18:27] <techtonic> I'm editing it with crontab -e
and I set it to launch every minute
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2915[17:18:52] <tremolo> Is it not running the script, or does
the script not behave as you expect?
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2920[17:19:23] <techtonic> it is running the script but the
script doesn't behave as I expect, it does behave when I launch
it manually though
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2921[17:19:35] <jelly> techtonic: xrandr requires a defined
DISPLAY variable.
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2922[17:19:39] <tremolo> Do you set DISPLAY in the script?
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2924[17:19:47] <jelly> DISPLAY environment* variable
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2925[17:20:00] <techtonic> no I didn't know that, how can I
do that?
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2926[17:20:17] <techtonic> is it the same for notifications too?
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2928[17:20:32] <jelly> silly way: env DISPLAY=whateve:r command
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2929[17:20:57] <techtonic> what do I need to put there?
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2930[17:21:05] <jelly> no idea what else might be needed for
notifications to work, and it might change on every logont/login
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2931[17:21:10] <klys> techtonic: DISPLAY=:0
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2936[17:21:56] <jelly> techtonic: instead of running
"command", run "env DISPLAY=:0 command" (or just
"DISPLAY=:0 command" but then cron will spawn an extra
shell)
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2937[17:22:21] <klys> also to have anything before the : you
would need to modify /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
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2939[17:23:21] <techtonic> so to use xrandr I need to: env
DISPLAY=:0 xrandr
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2941[17:23:42] <jelly> right
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2942[17:24:17] <jhutchins_wk> env?
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2943[17:24:19] <jelly> (assuming that DISPLAY value is correct,
which it usually is if you only have one user logged in, from a *dm)
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2945[17:24:43] <gp5st> hello, would someone be able to explain
the algorithm for quroum at
replaced-url
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2948[17:25:35] <jelly> env!
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2950[17:27:50] <techtonic> jelly, klys, it worked for xrandr, but
doesn't work for notify-send and gsettings
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2954[17:28:47] <bamb> is it possible to have X forwarding to a
windows machine without having to usee the complexities of ssh?
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2956[17:29:39] <klys> bamb, that depends on if your windows X
server is using -listen tcp
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2958[17:29:57] <klys> and is on a reachable network
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2963[17:31:02] <jelly> techtonic: yeah, I kind of expected that.
You'll probably have to do two things: 1) figure out what other
env. vars you need, probably dbus socket or some other socket
related 2) put those values into some sort of config file
automatically at login time, and a wrapper for notify-send that sets
env.vars from the config file, then runs the real command
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2967[17:31:59] <jelly> techtonic: run just "env" in a
terminal in your X session to see what kinds of nifty environment
variables are set
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2969[17:33:26] <jelly> techtonic: try to add anything with socket
or session in the name, and something like a path in the value, to
your env DISPLAY=:0 OTHERSTUFF=/blah THIRD=foo notify-send
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2970[17:33:43] <jelly> cron job
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2974[17:34:48] <techtonic> jelly: what is the difference between
env and export?
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2979[17:36:04] <jelly> techtonic: export doesn't run any
commands
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2982[17:37:40] <techtonic> jelly: I found some solution here that
uses export XAUTHORITY but I just tested it and it doesn't work
for me
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2992[17:40:37] <techtonic> why is this so complicated
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2997[17:42:12] <jelly> techtonic: if XAUTHORITY was set
you'd need that for xrandr as well.
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2999[17:42:31] <techtonic> jelly: env shows it on the list
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3001[17:43:15] <jelly> maybe it points to the default location
($HOME/.Xauthority)
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3002[17:43:25] <techtonic>
XAUTHORITY=/run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority
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3004[17:43:44] <jelly> it must be a miracle then
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3005[17:43:48] <techtonic> :O
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3007[17:43:59] <techtonic> I love when that happens :)
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3008[17:44:16] <jelly> or your ~/.Xauthority is a symlink to the
/run/.... one
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3010[17:44:37] <techtonic> I don't have a file named
.Xauthority in my home dir
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3015[17:45:14] <jelly> xandr, or any other X app, shouldn't
be able to connect to your X server without it
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3019[17:46:11] <techtonic> but it's in /run/user...
isn't that enough?
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3022[17:47:53] <jelly> X11 libraries only know to look at the
hardcoded place or look at the XAUTHORITY env. variable for the
path. If there's neither (eg. running xrandr from cron) an X
app shouldn't be able to work
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3024[17:48:15] <techtonic> no I have the env
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3033[17:50:42] <jelly> techtonic: commands that run from cron do
not have it.
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3037[17:52:40] <techtonic> I found some other solution that uses
dbus but I don't even know what it is and if it's safe to
use
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3038[17:53:03] <techtonic> linux always forces me to learn new
things
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3043[17:56:30] <jelly> and learning is HARD?
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3044[17:57:04] <techtonic> yes! when you want to just get
something to work and be done with it because you've already
spent too much time on this one thing
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3045[17:57:36] <techtonic> thing that you don't actually
need but it looks cool
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3050[18:00:33] <petn-randall> techtonic: To be honest, it sounds
like you're tackling the problem the hard way, though.
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3051[18:00:57] <techtonic> petn-randall: is there an easier way?
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3054[18:01:56] <jelly> learning how env.vars work, how cron uses
a cleaned environment, and which 3-4 vars you need for crazy
dbus-based things isn't that hard
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3056[18:02:03] <petn-randall> techtonic: Tell us about the goal
you want to achieve, and we might know a solution.
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3059[18:02:27] <sandieg> towo^work: towo` : jelly : i finally
manage to install X with 3D after some hard work :P but no mouse
this time
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3060[18:02:36] <techtonic> jelly: I already did all that, now I
need to learn what dbus is and how it works
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3061[18:02:45] <sandieg> am i missing some short of file for
inputs ?
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3062[18:03:03] <techtonic> petn-randall: I want to send
notifications from cron using notify-send but it just doesn't
work
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3064[18:03:25] <^CeLL^> i there
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3065[18:03:33] <sandieg> hi ^CeLL^
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3066[18:03:47] <jelly> sandieg: verify xserver-xorg-input-all is
installed
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3067[18:03:49] <nvz> so I've been noticing lately that my
machine is having these hiccups when loading files or closing
programs where it takes a long time for it to respond and I think
its related to the "reset high-speed USB device" messages
in dmesg which indicate the USB SATA adapter my rootfs is on. Any
suggestions on running down a cause and solution?
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3068[18:03:53] <sandieg> ty ty ty
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3069[18:03:55] <^CeLL^> i'm trying to update DNS servers on
resolv.conf file
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3072[18:04:06] <^CeLL^> and it won't update after a boot!
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3073[18:04:11] <sandieg> nop
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3074[18:04:13] <sandieg> install?
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3075[18:04:19] <jelly> yes
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3076[18:04:22] <sandieg> ty
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3077[18:04:31] <sandieg> switching to X :P
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3079[18:04:34] <jelly> sandieg: you installation of
"xorg" package was not correct or complete, then
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3082[18:04:43] <jelly> eh
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3086[18:05:13] <jelly> dpkg, tell ^CeLL^ about override dns
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3088[18:05:25] <petn-randall> techtonic: No, that is the solution
you came up with, tell us about the problem.
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3091[18:06:39] <nvz> actually now that I mentioned that, I do
have an idea of one thing that may be causing problems. I have the
drive hooked via one of those USB Y cables that goest to a wall wart
power adapter to provide the additional amps the drive needs. the
drive requires 700-900ma I got it hooked to a 1a adapter, I suppose
maybe that is failing. though I dont know how to be sure other than
to switch adapters
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3092[18:06:39] <klaussse> nvz: Mmmmmh
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3093[18:06:40] <techtonic> petn-randall: my problem is that I
want to send notifications to myself every x amount of time using
cron. The easiest way I found to send notifications is a program
notify-send
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3095[18:07:05] <petn-randall> nvz: Many USB-to-SATA-bridges are
dodgy. The proper way would to either install onto an internal HDD,
or get a better adapter.
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3096[18:07:13] <petn-randall> techtonic: Notifications of what?
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3097[18:07:35] <techtonic> petn-randall: anything, any text
message
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3098[18:08:22] <jelly> techtonic: why cron? what's the
source of info you want to generate notifications from?
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3102[18:08:54] <jelly> maybe petn-randall knows of ready-made
notificators that can be installeded
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3103[18:08:54] <klaussse> jelly: Not sure...
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3105[18:09:34] <jelly> klaussse: sorry?
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3107[18:10:03] <nvz> petn-randall: thats another possibility but
no as I just mentioned about the power source the only way to know
would be to try a different one I suppose. This only started
happening recently. My hardware only has USB and SDIO busses so my
options are limited
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3110[18:11:12] <nvz> I suppose I could try using a flashdrive
instead for the rootfs anyhow, that'd at least eliminate both
the sata adapter and the need for additional power source
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3112[18:11:28] <petn-randall> nvz: Embedded system? :)
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3113[18:11:45] <techtonic> jelly: there is a program called
solunar that calculates and displays sunrise and sunset times based
on coordinates. I made a script that uses it to determine if
it's night or day. I want my computer to use this script and
tell me when it's changed (via notifications) and also change
my theme and wallpaper depending if it's day or night. My
script does all of that and it's executed by cron but cron has
a problem with
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3114[18:11:45] <techtonic> gsettings and notify-send
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3116[18:12:54] <techtonic> it also changes the brightness with
xrandr and we got it to work with one env variable
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3119[18:13:01] <nvz> petn-randall: yep. REALLY cheap crappy one
too. heh. I gotta use the sunxi legacy 3.4.113-sun8i kernel which
kinda taints my debian 9 system and makes me wonder anytime
something that could be kernel related goes on
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3120[18:13:33] <petn-randall> nvz: IIRC you need a half-way
current kernel to use systemd, I don't remember what the
version number was.
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3121[18:13:33] <klaussse> petn-randall: yeah
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3123[18:14:04] <petn-randall> klaussse: yeah what?
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3126[18:14:39] <jelly> techtonic: there's redshift for
brightness, and I guess you could solve the timing with per-user
systemd timer units which are supposed to have your normal
user's environment
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3127[18:15:17] <jelly> klaussse: how much is five x 2 (are you a
bot?)
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3128[18:16:01] <techtonic> jelly: we already got xrandr to work
so no need to change that one, I need cron to execute my script
every hour, will this what you are suggesting be able to do the
same?
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3129[18:16:36] <nvz> I guess if it bugs me the best
solution/troubleshooting step then would be to just take one of
these thumbdrives and migrate my rootfs. any suggestions on which
tool to use to migrate a rootfs to a drive of a different size? my
rootfs is 111G and I have thumbdrives that are 4, 8, 32, and 128GB
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3130[18:16:38] <jelly> techtonic: it's supposed to.
I've never used systemd timers and don't know how they
work.
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3131[18:16:55] <techtonic> jelly: thanks I will check it out!
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3134[18:17:05] <jelly> klaussse: PM me for an answer and you may
get unmuted. No talky bots in here without permission from ops.
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3141[18:17:50] <nvz> maybe it'd be easier to just reinstall
and migrate /etc and /home backing up all that may take way too long
now that I think about it
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3142[18:18:26] * nvz is groggy and asking these questions is making me
think of the answers myself :P
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3143[18:18:35] <jelly> nvz: rsync.
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3148[18:19:46] <nvz> jelly: rsync can migrate a whole rootfs? I
guess we don't really have device nodes anymore, they probably
all create on the fly..
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3149[18:20:22] <jelly> it can copy all the files and directory
structures
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3151[18:20:35] <_Vi> Why Debian Stretch's graphical login
screen shows "Authentication error" when trying to unlock
session even before I enter any password. It happens every second in
a loop. Partially entered password gets cleared.
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3153[18:20:58] <jelly> nvz: if you're migrating to a smaller
filesystem, you don't have a lot of choice but to do a
file-based copy
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3155[18:21:26] <_Vi> And how do I forcibly unlock lock screen
from SSH root shell?
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3156[18:21:46] <jelly> _Vi: can you log in as that user at the
text console?
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3158[18:22:15] <_Vi> Yes.
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3159[18:22:42] <jhutchins_wk> _Vi: Have you been running
graphical programs as root?
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3161[18:23:16] <jelly> _Vi: do you care about the running session
a lot? Someone may suggest a command that gets you logged out
completely
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3162[18:23:28] <_Vi> Not (at least in this session).
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3163[18:23:29] <nvz> jelly: yes and that would cut down on time
too I suppose. All things are slower on here, inet to reinstall,
transfer speeds from one USB device to another.. etc. file based
approach makes me working with more like 28G instead of 111G
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3167[18:24:02] <_Vi> Not particualrly caring about this session,
but I want to know methods of troubleshooting in case I really do.
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3168[18:24:08] <jhutchins_wk> nvz: You should boot to other media
than the fs you're copying.
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3170[18:24:37] <jelly> _Vi: look at your user's processes
and try to find oue related to the lock screen. Perhaps ps -fe |
grep lock
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3171[18:24:40] <_Vi> How the default graphical login manager is
called in Debian Stretch?
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3173[18:24:50] <^CeLL^> how do i had a nameserver to a webserver?
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3175[18:24:57] <jelly> gdm3
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3177[18:25:31] <_Vi> Only kernel thread "[kblockd]"
gets found.
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3179[18:25:42] <jelly> ^CeLL^: that does not make sense. Please
explain in more detail, eg.
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3181[18:25:43] <jelly> !ask
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3182[18:25:44] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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3183[18:25:46] <nvz> jhutchins_wk: that can be a bit of a problem
but possibly doable. I have another sd card with android on it I
only have two usb ports and an otg I use in host mode for my
keyboard/mouse and using a hub would cut my xfer speeds between two
drives down below 1MB/s
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3184[18:25:48] <_Vi> The lock screen is also login screen for
other users.
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3187[18:26:25] <jelly> _Vi: you can restart gdm/gdm3 service but
that will likely log you out
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3188[18:26:34] <jhutchins_wk> nvz: There are a lot of
pseudo-files that get generated at runtime and you don't want
to copy those.
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3189[18:27:05] <jelly> _Vi: I honestly have no idea how to deal
with symptoms like that; is it possible some key somewhere is stuck?
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3192[18:27:57] * petn-randall is guessing stuck (external USB)
keyboard, too.
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3194[18:28:11] <_Vi> In /var/log/gdm3 I don't see any
messages while it shows "Authentication error".
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3195[18:28:14] <jelly> _Vi: if you're root, a silly
workaround: change your normal user's password to just
'b', then type it real quick, then change it back
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3196[18:28:19] <_Vi> In auth.log as well.
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3198[18:28:36] <_Vi> Let's try the short password
workaround.
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3199[18:28:41] <nvz> jhutchins_wk: would their presence likely
cause issues with booting? I acually boot from SD and root is on USB
then the "root" on the sd remounts to /media/ once the
real rootfs is loaded
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3200[18:28:56] <Nihl> hi there. I have a lot of packages
installed, with versions higher then the ones that are in
repositories. That causes huge dependency problems... Is there a way
to downgrade all 'over-versioned' packages to the last one
in the repository?
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3204[18:29:25] <jelly> Nihl: where did you get those package
versions from?
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3206[18:29:30] <_Vi> Workaround fails. Still the same orange
"Authentication failure".
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3207[18:29:44] <_Vi> s/failure/error/
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3210[18:30:10] <jelly> Nihl: there are ways to do it, bu... eh
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3212[18:30:32] <_Vi> Also "Authentication error" shows
up if I try to to choose another user any type my user name.
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3215[18:31:22] <_Vi> After trying to type "root" as
username it does not respond at all, even to "Cancel".
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3217[18:31:27] <jelly> Nihl: there are ways to do it (ask the bot
about: /msg dpkg partial downgrade), but tread carefully. Example:
downgrading a database server to a lower version may make you end up
with software that can't read your data correctly.
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3219[18:31:46] <_Vi> Shall I file a bug somewhere?
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3220[18:31:47] <jelly> Nihl: which debian release are you
supposed to be running?
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3222[18:31:53] <synja> jelly
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3223[18:31:57] <synja> just ask this
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3224[18:32:02] <Nihl> I am running stretch
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3225[18:32:09] <synja> what code for dpkg partial downgrade
debian
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3227[18:32:14] <synja> now wait
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3228[18:32:24] <alic1a> synja: Home * Plailect/Guide Wiki *
GitHub at
replaced-url
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3230[18:32:32] <jelly> wtf
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3231[18:32:37] <synja> see if that works
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3233[18:32:55] * synja throws alicia a bone
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3234[18:33:18] <jelly> synja: please don't put bots in here
without permission.
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3236[18:33:31] <synja> don't be pb and jelly dude
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3238[18:33:38] <Nihl> so, how could I downgrade safely then?
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3239[18:33:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
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3241[18:33:51] <_Vi> How do I restart gdm3? "service gdm3
restart" seems to produce no result.
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3242[18:33:52] <alic1a> _Vi: You has to study it in school Hmm. I
see
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3245[18:34:10] <_Vi> alic1a, Study what in school?
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3251[18:36:04] <jelly> Nihl: do you know where got those newer
package versions from?
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3254[18:36:55] <Nihl> I think I messed my sources.list a while
back so that it had much newer packages I guess...
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3255[18:36:56] <_Vi> Only "killall Xwayland" made this
stuck login window go away".
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3257[18:37:18] <Nihl> but I changed it since
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3258[18:37:27] <petn-randall> Nihl: Where did you get the
packages from, though?
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3259[18:37:44] <Nihl> all from apt-get.... if that's what
you mean
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3260[18:37:47] <jelly> Nihl: unless you have a _lot_ of important
data on this installation, best thing to do is reinstall
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3261[18:38:01] <jelly> (apt-get from which sources)
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3262[18:38:14] <Nihl> I don't remember
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3263[18:38:31] <jelly> Nihl: do you have a lot of important data
on this system?
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3265[18:38:38] <Nihl> I just know that the versions of the
packages are much newer then on the official site
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3267[18:39:05] <Nihl> not really, but it's a bother to
reinstall I guess :D
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3268[18:39:15] <jhutchins_wk> !partial downgrade
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3269[18:39:16] <dpkg> This may or may not work for you, but if
you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list
(b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded
packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the
same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing
"b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no
more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>.
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3270[18:40:00] <jelly> Nihl: no, it's really the simpler of
the options available, and your config files and data will be a mess
after an attempted downgrade anyway
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3273[18:40:18] <jelly> debian's packages do not really
support downgrades
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3275[18:40:32] <Nihl> I see... I need to get used to this
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3277[18:41:03] <Nihl> I am thinking about reinstalling just the
root
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3278[18:41:12] <Nihl> so that home stays the same
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3281[18:42:17] <jelly> if your /home is a separate partition /
filesystem, you should be able to do that if you're careful.
Safest thing to do is backup all the good stuff from your home to
some external disk, reinstall, and put back
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3282[18:42:34] <Nihl> mhm, thank you jelly
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3295[18:50:05] <^CeLL^> just want to know this: should i edit
etc/resolv.conf file? I have a raspian webserver with static
internal IP, i've go a domain name that was buyed to no-ip.
Should i be editing etc/resolv.conf to their Nameservers?
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3297[18:51:03] <nkuttler> !raspbian
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3298[18:51:03] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
replaced-url
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3301[18:52:20] <rotaticus> nkuttler also have a look at armbian
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3304[18:55:02] <lift> Any gotchas I need to look for with a
jessie->stretch upgrade? MySQL to MariaDB barfed a little, but
appears to be up and working after I manually killed the running
mysqld process and re-ran upgrade.
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3315[18:58:21] <annadane> lift,
replaced-url
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3323[19:00:08] <jhutchins_wk> ^CeLL^: If you want your server to
be reachable by outside users, you need to set up DNS entries on a
public DNS server. Your registrar might have those availble for you
to set. If not, you will have to find a public DNS server. Namecheap
will provide you with DNS services for domains that are registered
elsewhere, but you might need to have at least one registration with
them.
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3326[19:00:29] <annadane> lift,
replaced-url
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3329[19:01:06] <jhutchins_wk> ^CeLL^: You might want to set up a
DNS server on your own network to access the server locally, that
will not make it publically accessible.
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3331[19:01:31] <jelly> ^CeLL^: no, if the system is on a fixed
internal ip, just add an entry for it in /etc/hosts on the client
machines
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3335[19:03:56] <^CeLL^> jelly: how should it be?
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3336[19:04:50] <^CeLL^> cause when i edit the etc/resolv.conf
file save it and then boot the raspian shows the previous values
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3337[19:05:22] <jhutchins_wk> ^CeLL^: That's because
you're not supposed to edit /etc/resolv.conf - it's
managed by other programs now.
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3339[19:06:21] <^CeLL^> thank you! for the info!
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3340[19:06:31] <jhutchins_wk> !pt
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3341[19:06:31] <dpkg> Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em
portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join
#debian-pt )
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3367[19:17:55] <pflanze> Why does arecord not work any more on
Debian stretch which uses pulseaudio?
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3368[19:18:14] <pflanze> How can I record sound on a pulse audio
based system from the command line?
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3370[19:19:23] <pflanze> BTW actually arecord still worked with
stretch one one system I tried. But not here. Might be because
I'm using a USB audio device, which shows up in the mixer
including sound activity levels, but arecord gives silence.
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3377[19:21:29] <Cobalt> Hello, what would be the correct way of
causing USB external device to automount under Stretch, in /media to
be accessible to all users (vfat or ntfs), and to automagically
delete mountpoint if accidentally removed without cleanly unmounting
first?
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3380[19:22:06] <Trel> If you're using the iso with firmware,
do you need to do anything special to have the installer load said
firmware or is there possibly wireless firmware still not included?