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0 [00:00:19] <x86iac> did you get an error?
1 [00:00:31] <Capum321> from what?
2 [00:00:33] <Capum321> now, it left what to do with the bash
script
3 [00:00:51] <Capum321> should I add an entry on desktop
session autorun app?
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9 [00:02:28] <x86iac> you want to just run rtcwake .,...
i'd use crond and atd what you have there around it with
getidletime.c and script seems overly complicated
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12 [00:03:10] <x86iac> Capum321: what do you really want done ..
13 [00:03:22] <Capum321> let's see
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15 [00:03:36] <Capum321> can you show me what crond and atd is
capable?
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17 [00:05:15] <Capum321> ok,, the final script should do this:
run irssi, which is set to connect to a server and join a channel.
idle for some time, about 1 hour, then enter sleep for 5 hours. then
wake and repeat this whole steps over again
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19 [00:06:15] <Capum321> i should be able to attend to the
machine and stop the process, when I am on keyboard doing something
else on the computer
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22 [00:06:56] <Capum321> thats why idle seems a good option
23 [00:07:02] <Capum321> no?
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30 [00:09:50] <Capum321> x86iac what?
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43 [00:16:09] <Capum321> lost in the woods?
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54 [00:19:32] <x86iac> Capum321: are you quitting the channel?
and if you want to stay connected use a bouncer or screen/tmux ?
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57 [00:21:23] <Capum321> it could quit the channel and the
server, as long it is capable of connect again, yes. the connection
is made all set up automatically on irssi. don't know about
screen/tmux at the moment. if i recall, i should use them for
something, i don't remember now
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62 [00:22:26] <x86iac> google has a great memory transfer
program you could try too - to get an idea of what these things are
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76 [00:26:31] <Capum321> what's the name
77 [00:26:44] <Capum321> are you done? what are you doing?
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121 [00:33:19] <Capum321> x86iac: what are you talking about?
122 [00:33:24] <Capum321> urgh
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139 [00:36:38] <klarehyerson>
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142 [00:37:16] <klarehyerson> The paid Jewish smear propagandists
dream to make the truth about the Holohoax illegal everywhere in the
world, because that's the only chance to keep the
$100-Billion-Dollar-Holocaust-Industry, Inc. alive and profitable
for them in the age of world-wide internet.
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183 [00:37:59] <klarehyerson> "When the world finds out the
truth about the web of lies the jewish race has worked into our
societies, all of humanity will unite to scrub them off of the face
of the earth" - Ben Garrison
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185 [00:38:16] <klarehyerson> HOLOHOAX.....the world has awoken
from this (infamous despicable WORLD LIE)......period
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189 [00:38:48] <jim> !ops klarehyerson racism, offtopic
190 [00:38:49] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jim complains
about: klarehyerson racism, offtopic
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193 [00:39:01] <klarehyerson> jim, That's a good
mind-controlled golem slave.
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196 [00:40:05] <klarehyerson> jim, The BIG Jews are now and have
always been the worst enemy of so called Jews. Their multitude of
ridiculous lies are falling like a house of cards and there is
nothing they can do to stop it.
197 [00:40:30] <jim> don't talk to me, I'm not
interested in your crap
198 [00:40:33] <x86iac> klarehyerson: sounds like you are
mentally ill? are you
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201 [00:41:05] <klarehyerson> x86iac, Start here: 9/11
Brainwashing Pt 1
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206 [00:41:27] <klarehyerson> x86iac, "This video should
help you to better understand how the lies of 9/11 are being
hardwired into our brains. This is called brainwashing."
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208 [00:41:43] <klarehyerson> x86iac, "Part 2 9/11
Brainwashing (reverse engineering 9/11 for a better understanding of
the Holohoax)"
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211 [00:42:32] <klarehyerson> x86iac, "Part 2 9/11
Brainwashing (reverse engineering 9/11 for a better understanding of
the Holohoax)"
212 [00:42:32] <x86iac> lol mental illness is fun
213 [00:42:42] <klarehyerson> Being mean and slanderous does
nothing. I know the facts.
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216 [00:42:54] <klarehyerson> x86iac, You're a
mind-controlled golem slave.
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218 [00:43:06] <x86iac> yea like the 9/11 perpetrators
WEREN"T saudia arabians
219 [00:43:19] <klarehyerson> x86iac, Take it to the OFF-TOPIC
channel if you want to debate.
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224 [00:43:41] <peterrooney> !ops klarehyerson racism spam ot
225 [00:43:41] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: peterrooney
complains about: klarehyerson racism spam ot
226 [00:43:41] <Capum321> x86iac: that's good topic, what
about the perfect demolition of manhatan bank?
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228 [00:43:43] <klarehyerson> x86iac, I'm not frankly
interested in debating mind-controlled golem slaves.
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230 [00:44:22] <x86iac> you might want to look up what slander is
- i think you mean libel
231 [00:44:27] <jim> probably best to /ignore him... he's on
muliple channels, so perhaps it would be a net issue which #freenode
staff would handle
232 [00:44:37] <klarehyerson> Capum321, Alfred Shaefer –
‘Psychological Warfare’
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233 [00:44:44] <klarehyerson> That's from the London Forum.
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248 [00:45:38] <x86iac> klarehyerson: learned a long time ago
that it is impossible to debate with stupid and mental illness
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255 [00:46:15] <klarehyerson> x86iac, Take elsewhere your
mind-controlled golem slavery.
256 [00:46:18] <klarehyerson> This is a support channel.
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258 [00:46:30] <jim> x86iac, you're feeding him, so the
discussion keeps going.,.. which is exactly what he wants
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263 [00:47:11] <Anarchy> when I try to ftp to my server it says
connection refused... how can I fix this?
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268 [00:47:53] <jim> Anarchy, what does "connection
refused" indicate to you?
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270 [00:50:12] <Anarchy> port 21 is closed?
271 [00:50:54] <jim> exactly... so in turn that means?
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274 [00:51:26] <x86iac> i know i know - server not running!!!
275 [00:51:33] <Anarchy> but I dont have any iptable rules etc.
276 [00:52:29] <jim> x86iac, that would be one possible cause.
How would you determine if that were the case?
277 [00:52:46] <x86iac> run netstat -an ?
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280 [00:52:55] <jim> on which machine?
281 [00:53:08] <x86iac> the machine with the server !!!!
282 [00:53:09] <Andrepila> anybody has tripwire running on
production and can recommend it?
283 [00:53:13] <jim> right
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285 [00:53:37] <jim> Anarchy, so: is there an ftp server running
on the server machine?
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287 [00:53:58] <Anarchy> yes proftpd
288 [00:54:19] <x86iac> run curl -v to the server
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290 [00:54:37] <jim> ok... on the server machine, what happens if
you do ftp localhost?
291 [00:54:44] <Anarchy> proftpd 13421 1 0 Sep04 ? 00:00:09
proftpd: (accepting connections)
292 [00:54:57] <jim> that looks good...
293 [00:55:04] <Anarchy> ps -ef | grep proftpd gives this
294 [00:55:12] <x86iac> did you connect with a valid user?
295 [00:55:41] <jim> invalid user wouldn't give him
connection refused tho
296 [00:55:45] <Anarchy> yes I just created the user with FTP
privilage
297 [00:55:46] * x86iac has had a proftpd server running since 1933
298 [00:56:27] * jim is unsure of the version of proftpd available in
1933...
299 [00:56:32] <Anarchy> netstat -an : port 21 I dont see
300 [00:57:07] <jim> which machine did you run that on?
301 [00:57:18] <Anarchy> on my server
302 [00:57:26] <jim> ok
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305 [00:57:42] <x86iac> pastebin the proftpd.conf it isn't
big
306 [00:58:05] <jim> (so ftp localhost might not work either...
give it a try, see what it does)
307 [00:58:11] <x86iac> jim: it was a pre release for sure ;)
308 [00:58:27] <jim> understatement :)
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316 [01:00:35] <jim> incidentally, ftp itself is not a good
protocol to run as it sends authentication info in the clear... what
about using scp or sftp?)
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319 [01:00:58] <Anarchy>
replaced-url
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322 [01:01:34] <Anarchy> ftp localhost : unknown command
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324 [01:02:14] <Anarchy> winscp works
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328 [01:03:52] <mullenim> holocaust denying truthers
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336 [01:05:52] <mullenim> if you guys see any truthers in here
just report them to the ops.
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345 [01:08:01] <mullenim> the ops in here do a pretty good job of
keeping the channel focused.
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347 [01:08:40] <mullenim> I encourage people to look into things
for themselves but this isn't the chan.
348 [01:09:05] <th0r> is there some reason for this diatribe?
349 [01:09:33] <missmbob> i believe it's called diarrhea of
the mouth
350 [01:09:36] <mullenim> apparently the chan has seen some
holocaust denying truthers
351 [01:09:50] <missmbob> mullenim: yes. please stop rambling
about it.
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354 [01:10:21] <mullenim> missmbob, I like i said, this
isn't the chan for it
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357 [01:10:49] <mtn> wow
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365 [01:12:17] <mullenim> mtn, what?
366 [01:12:44] <th0r> mtn please don't feed the troll
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370 [01:13:43] <x86iac> lol which one is the troll?
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377 [01:14:55] <x86iac> jim: doesn't proftpd with pam use
shadow
378 [01:15:07] <jim> probably
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382 [01:15:59] <Anarchy> jim: do you have any further
suggestions?=
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385 [01:17:38] <jim> Anarchy, oh, did you try on the server
"ftp localhost" to see what that does?
386 [01:18:01] <Anarchy> yes ftp command not found
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389 [01:18:37] <jim> ohh, that's different... can you
install it and try? (then remove it if you don't want it)
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393 [01:19:56] <jim> OR telnet localhost 21
394 [01:20:14] <Anarchy> ftp localhost ftp: connect: Connection
refused ftp> asd ?Invalid command
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396 [01:21:02] <jim> ok, so that confirms that even though ftpd
is apparantly running, it's not listening at port 21
397 [01:22:04] <Anarchy> on proftpd config the port is set to 21
398 [01:22:10] <Anarchy> I dont know what else to do
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401 [01:22:37] <x86iac> you sure you are connecting to correct
machine? what are you using to connect?
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404 [01:23:00] <x86iac> can you ping the machine?
405 [01:23:16] <Anarchy> Im using filezilla
406 [01:23:32] <Anarchy> yes I can ping the machine... rather
than pinging it Im in the machine
407 [01:23:40] <x86iac> winscp works
408 [01:23:46] <Anarchy> yes
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416 [01:25:48] <jmcnaught> Andrepila: i'm using tripwire. It
does an okay job, but i found it fairly difficult to automate. For
it to be useful I found I needed to manually review reports before
doing any changes or updates for instance.
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419 [01:26:30] <x86iac> what is the full infor from netstat -an |
grep proftpd
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436 [01:33:13] <room> hi, i'm looking for a way to either
regenerate a valid control.tar.gz in a .deb, or force the .deb to
install without a control, any ideas?
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439 [01:33:46] <room> (dpkg-gencontrol is broken and i cannot for
the life of me figure out how to make it work again)
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452 [01:37:35] <Anarchy> netstat -an | grep proftpd : nothing
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455 [01:39:42] <x86iac> what is the full infor from netstat -an |
grep :21
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465 [01:48:38] <Anarchy> also nothing
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476 [01:56:54] <techitch> so if i have wheezy and cannot upgrade
to jessie, how can i get glibc >=2.14 ??
477 [01:56:57] <x86iac> then it isn't running on the machine
you think check your /var/log/proftpd/ dir
478 [01:57:33] <x86iac> techitch: compile source and all other it
needs
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481 [01:58:36] <techitch> right ok and it wont break my other
stuff?
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484 [01:59:42] <x86iac> it could - what version is your antique
^h^h^h kernel
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488 [02:00:34] <techitch> Debian 3.2.81-1 x86_64
489 [02:00:39] <x86iac> i'd make a COMPLETE simple backup
cp/dd and have it on the same system
490 [02:00:57] <x86iac> in /backup
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492 [02:01:25] <x86iac> and have a rescue disk handy -
493 [02:01:30] <x86iac> what is your current glibc
494 [02:01:42] <techitch> is it safer to just move incrementally
higher like from 2.13 to 2.14 rather than tot he latest 2.24
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496 [02:02:17] <x86iac> 2.13 to 2.14 doesn't sound to bad
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499 [02:02:25] <techitch> ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+deb7u11)
2.13
500 [02:02:41] <techitch> what if i went to 2.17? that would
probably satisfy my needs i think
501 [02:03:08] <techitch> its just the latest wheezy stable is
2.13
502 [02:03:10] <x86iac> if all you need is >=2.14 then just do
it but have full backup
503 [02:03:40] <x86iac> it is a 'complete' distro with
all compiled as a system
504 [02:04:08] <x86iac> do a test compile first to --prefix=/test
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508 [02:05:52] <techitch> hmm wouldnt it just be easier to
install the jessie package
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510 [02:06:44] <x86iac> i'm sure many here would say that is
a no no
511 [02:06:52] <techitch> 2.19-18+deb8u4:
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516 [02:08:37] <techitch> its probabaly almost easier to find a
way to upgrade to jessie right
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519 [02:09:03] <x86iac> what needs the glibc 2.14 - you must be
compiling something ?
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522 [02:10:10] <techitch> i'm trying to get filebot working
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526 [02:12:28] <room> okay, is it safe to tar xf data.tar.gz
(from linux-image deb), then run update-initramfs -c -k
<whatever>, then update-grub
527 [02:13:21] <room> i'm tempted to go for the reboot, but
afraid as it's on a server and is not a VM so i have no visual
access to it if it fails to boot
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529 [02:13:36] <room> could i be missing any steps
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534 [02:16:05] <endersending> during the debian install, it is
asking me for firmware for my fibre channel cards, if i put the .deb
package on a second cd, will it install the package?
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537 [02:16:52] <x86iac> endersending: you could do it after the
install too
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539 [02:17:05] <somiaj> endersending: I think you need to make
the actual firemare file avaiable (not the package) but unsure here.
You can always install the firwmare package after the isntall.
540 [02:17:15] <somiaj> the install guide says what you need to
do
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544 [02:18:27] <x86iac> get a booting system asap then all else
is gravy ;) like changing a tire on a busy higway - you can wash
your hands after ;)
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548 [02:19:44] <endersending> i need the fir,ware to access the
disks
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552 [02:21:40] <somiaj>
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556 [02:25:06] <RoyK> endersending: what sort of fc-cards are
these?
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558 [02:25:20] <RoyK> endersending: and - is the root on fc?
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570 [02:29:18] <jcadduono> ok well it booted great, the only
issue was znc was linked to an uninstall lib and wouldnt start
hehehe :D made it look terrible from this end
571 [02:29:31] <x86iac> fibre cards to hard disks?
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577 [02:31:39] <x86iac> you booting off them ?
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614 [02:55:05] <endersending> i try to mount a cdrom
615 [02:55:14] <endersending> mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr1
/mnt/cdrom
616 [02:55:17] <endersending> invalid argument
617 [02:55:22] <endersending> wtf am i doing wrong?
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628 [02:59:10] <tomreyn> endersending: does /dev/sr1 actually
exist and is of type block special?
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630 [02:59:12] <x86iac> does /mnt/cdrom exist?
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633 [03:00:06] <x86iac> does the iso9660 kernel module show in
lsmod?
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636 [03:00:36] <tomreyn> and is /mnt/cdrom a directory?
637 [03:00:48] <endersending> isofs
638 [03:01:42] <tomreyn> did you just mean to respond to one or
more of the - so far - four questions asked?
639 [03:02:11] <endersending> iso9660 does not show up in lsmod
640 [03:02:24] <endersending> /dev/sr1 exists
641 [03:02:43] <endersending> its a block device
642 [03:03:14] <endersending> /mnt/cdrom only existed after i
created it
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644 [03:03:47] <x86iac> try it as root? what does ls -l /dev/sr1
show
645 [03:04:29] <x86iac> did /mnt/cdrom exist before you tried the
mount? and try the mount as root
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648 [03:04:59] <endersending> brw------- 1 root root 11, 1 Sep 11
07:27 /dev/sr1
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651 [03:05:32] <endersending> no it did not exist before i tried
mounting
652 [03:05:37] <endersending> i am root
653 [03:06:06] <themill> endersending: which release of debian is
this?
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658 [03:09:47] <endersending> bad cd i think...
659 [03:12:07] <endersending> debian 4.5.2
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668 [03:23:46] <somiaj> endersending: debian 4? That is very old.
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670 [03:24:30] <glorias> hi
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675 [03:25:23] <themill> Yeah, there was no such version ever
released, so who knows
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677 [03:26:24] <endersending> windows isnt buring cds right
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679 [03:28:24] <glorias> I like windows
680 [03:28:28] <glorias> but its slow
681 [03:28:50] <glorias> and killed als users fanatsie
682 [03:29:06] <glorias> besides
683 [03:29:19] <glorias> I got som shit sony< vaio laptop here
684 [03:29:26] <glorias> with 8.1
685 [03:29:45] <glorias> 100 ways not come into bios
686 [03:30:06] <glorias> so I decided go to some profi pc shop
687 [03:30:11] <glorias> whath him lol*
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701 [03:36:07] <blockcubed> so my audio works
702 [03:36:10] <blockcubed> but it is very quite
703 [03:36:15] <blockcubed> quiet
704 [03:36:25] <blockcubed> and i cant turn it up
705 [03:36:29] <blockcubed> :[
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709 [03:37:34] <bazhang> what about adjusting PCM in alsamixer
blockcubed
710 [03:37:53] <blockcubed> let me google that lol
711 [03:39:06] <bazhang> open a term
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713 [03:39:18] <bazhang> type alsamixer
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715 [03:39:43] <pingu> How can I recover from a freeze without
closing windows?
716 [03:39:57] <bazhang> freeze of what
717 [03:40:05] <pingu> My Debian system.
718 [03:40:06] <Andrepila> can you guys recommend auto updating
production servers?
719 [03:40:07] <endersending> turn on the heat
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722 [03:40:46] <bazhang> if its a freeze how could you close any
windows at al
723 [03:40:47] <blockcubed> thank you bazhang
724 [03:41:01] <pingu> REISUB will shut everything down.
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726 [03:41:54] <bazhang> did tht fix it blockcubed
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728 [03:42:12] <blockcubed> yup sure did
729 [03:42:18] <bazhang> great
730 [03:42:35] <blockcubed> I think my mixer is on the wrong
channel for the audio mixer
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732 [03:42:48] <bazhang> pingu, so its a complete and total
freeze, no response at all
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735 [03:43:43] <pingu> bazhang: I can't seem to TTY into a
terminal, and Magic SysRQ F & N don't seem to work (but I
can't tell).
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741 [03:45:23] <pingu> bazhang: I had a python script "while
1: a+=1; print a" while I was generating a GPG keypair (It said
to keep the system busy for the prime generator or something to do
with the random generator, I cannot remember.)
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743 [03:46:50] <bazhang> why not use seahorse for that pingu
744 [03:46:59] <bazhang> that script sounds bad
745 [03:47:18] <bazhang> ,v seahorse
746 [03:47:19] <judd> Package: seahorse on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.4.1-2; jessie: 3.14.0-2; stretch: 3.20.0-1; sid: 3.20.0-1
747 [03:48:28] <blockcubed> broke it for a second
748 [03:48:32] <blockcubed> but I ended up fixing it
749 [03:48:56] <pingu> bazhang: I ran "gpg --gen-key"
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757 [03:53:21] <surfist> who is a touchpad expert?
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761 [03:57:36] <surfist> two finger scrolling has vanished.. edge
scrolling seems to be gone
762 [03:57:50] <surfist> libinput is not cooperating
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772 [04:02:28] <pingu> Fine, I'll REISUB and loose
everything. :-(
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775 [04:02:56] <pingu> But there should be a way! D-:<
776 [04:03:12] <pingu> D-X<
777 [04:03:17] <ziper1> hi guys in my apt-get sources list what
is the purpose of having separate lines for jessie jessie/update and
jessie-update
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781 [04:04:37] <pingu> ziper1: jessie/updates is security.
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783 [04:05:37] <Hello71> pingu: keep system busy means generate
some interrupts
784 [04:05:41] <Hello71> pegging cpu does not really help
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786 [04:06:10] <pingu> Hello71: How do I generate interrups?
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788 [04:06:16] <Hello71> move mouse
789 [04:06:23] <Hello71> do some disk io
790 [04:06:44] <pingu> Would xdotool do the trick?
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793 [04:07:16] <pingu> I could loop it to move the mouse back and
forth while I KVM into the system I'm using now.
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796 [04:07:44] <Hello71> try googling "gpg generate
entropy".
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798 [04:08:05] <ziper1> what about deb and deb-src ?
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801 [04:08:37] <Hello71>
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802 [04:08:44] <pingu> ziper1: deb-src gives you the source code.
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804 [04:09:14] <ziper1> ok, thanks
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808 [04:11:03] <pingu> Hello71: I guess I could do a loop that
`cat`s my filesystem into /dev/urandom
809 [04:11:22] <pingu> Or is it the other way around?
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812 [04:12:03] <pingu> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null
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817 [04:13:57] <pingu> The python script was storing data in main
memory, and accessing the ALU.
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819 [04:14:31] <pingu> I didn't think it would need to deal
with off-board storage...
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823 [04:15:35] <pingu> Do /dev/null and /dev/urandom even exist
physically?
824 [04:15:49] <pingu> Otherwise that is just a main memory
interaction.
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863 [04:35:24] <Capum321> how to run a command after wake up -
using anacron or system-sleep? - and parse? the login credentials?
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870 [04:38:19] <pingu> Capum321: @reboot
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881 [04:42:27] <Capum321> pingu how does it deal with the login
credentials of DM ?
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900 [04:57:30] <jmcnaught> Capum321: you could take this service
unit of anacron's as a template:
/lib/systemd/system/anacron-resume.service
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902 [04:58:06] <jmcnaught> Capum321: and use the User= directive
described in "man systemd.exec"
903 [04:59:07] <implijer> on debian jessie thunar does not use
xarchiver correctly :( (packages : xarchiver +
thunar-archive-plugin)
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905 [04:59:50] <jmcnaught> Capum321: put your custom service
unity in /etc/systemd/system if it's a system job,
/etc/systemd/user if it's a job that should be run by logged in
users
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907 [05:00:08] <jmcnaught> ^unity^unit
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913 [05:02:04] <Capum321> unity what?
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916 [05:03:25] <jmcnaught> Capum321: sorry unity was a typo for
unit
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929 [05:11:05] <fucshiagirl>
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930 [05:11:08] <Capum321> what you mean
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944 [05:22:58] <pingu> What do you do when REISUB fails?
945 [05:23:45] <pingu> What is it even called when REISUB fails?
946 [05:23:45] <pingfloyd> sometimes you have to be patient with
reisub
947 [05:24:20] <pingfloyd> but if that fails, then you're
pretty much force to hard shutdown
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949 [05:24:47] <pingu> pingfloyd: I know, but it's been ~2
hours now.
950 [05:24:49] <pingfloyd> pingu: but one thing to bear in mind
is you may have some of the magic sysrq keys disabled
951 [05:25:10] <pingfloyd> by default only a few are enabled in
debian (which is rather annoying).
952 [05:25:27] <pingu> OMG, who would do that?!?
953 [05:25:35] <pingu> And why?!?
954 [05:25:47] <pingfloyd> ikr, because once you realize it,
it's too late
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956 [05:26:18] <pingfloyd> pingu: can you access a console to the
system at all?
957 [05:26:55] <pingfloyd> e.g., via ssh, any sort of terminal,
or virtual console (any way to get a CLI)?
958 [05:27:11] <pingu> Not unless there is another way than
Alt+PrSc+R & Ctrl+Alt+F#
959 [05:27:31] <pingu> Oh, no I don't think so...
960 [05:27:41] <pingu> My firewall rules would prevent that.
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962 [05:28:28] <pingfloyd> if you can somehow manage to: echo
"1" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq then maybe you can get it
to engage.
963 [05:28:51] <pingu> I thought Debian was supposed to be solid?
Why would they take power away from the user?
964 [05:29:15] <pingfloyd> pingu: I forget the default out of the
box value they have set for that, but it has only a few of the sysrq
keys enabled.
965 [05:29:16] <pingu> Can you do that blindly after Alt+PrSc+R ?
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968 [05:29:45] <pingu> 438
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970 [05:29:53] <pingfloyd> one of the first things I do on a new
installation is change that to 1
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972 [05:30:18] <pingu> Yeah, I'll put it in my
post-installation script.
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974 [05:30:52] <pingfloyd> you can also echo the keys to
/proc/sysrq-trigger instead of typing the using the combos
975 [05:31:21] <pingfloyd> like: echo r > /proc/sysrq-trigger
976 [05:31:25] <pingfloyd> and so on
977 [05:32:24] <pingfloyd> my guess is debian decided to limit it
for security reasons
978 [05:32:24] <pingu> But that requires access to a console?
979 [05:32:52] <pingu> But there's like screen locking and
stuff for that?
980 [05:32:53] <prwui> I don't believe the official 911
narrative either.
981 [05:33:29] <pingfloyd> they present some security implication
when there is a physical access, but trying to lock down security
when there is a physical access is a pointless battle in my book
982 [05:33:50] <pingfloyd> other than full disk encryption which
only provides that security when the keys aren't in a memory
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985 [05:34:07] <pingu> Use a One Time Pad.
986 [05:34:36] <pingu> I have a HDD with the pad on it.
987 [05:34:47] <pingu> I just XOR the HDDs.
988 [05:34:51] <pingfloyd> I'd rather have 1 by default
989 [05:35:19] <pingu> Same.
990 [05:35:34] <pingfloyd> because I tend to side on that debate
that limiting is sysrq keys isn't worth much from security
standpoint in practice.
991 [05:35:40] <Capum321> jmcnaught: thanks for the help. i will
work that out
992 [05:35:59] <pingfloyd> but it clearly is helpful when things
go wrong with the system
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994 [05:36:26] <pingfloyd> the utility far outweighs the security
implications in my book on that one
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998 [05:37:20] <pingu> You should become the next Debian leader.
999 [05:37:26] <pingu> I'll vote for you.
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1001 [05:38:52] <pingu> Demian could be a DEMocratic fork...
1002 [05:39:45] <pingu> I highly doubt the masses agree with the
magical decision.
1003 [05:39:48] <pingfloyd> anyway, what I do is put
'kernel.sysrq=1' in /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf
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1005 [05:40:11] <pingu> Do you have a distro?
1006 [05:40:20] <pingfloyd> me?
1007 [05:40:34] <pingu> Yes.
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1009 [05:40:50] <pingfloyd> I've built a distro from scratch
before, but that was more as an exercise.
1010 [05:41:05] <pingfloyd> a learning exercise
1011 [05:41:32] <pingu> Want to do it again? I want to learn, but
that would probably be too much work...
1012 [05:41:40] <pingfloyd> it really takes a lot of manpower and
resources to maintain a decent level of quality distro
1013 [05:41:56] <JosephineBlack> hallo
1014 [05:41:58] <pingfloyd> yeah, it's a ton of work
1015 [05:42:12] <JosephineBlack> we make a littke game?
1016 [05:42:23] <pingfloyd> and then once you build it,
that's only half of the battle (if that), because then comes
all the maintenance and keeping it up to date.
1017 [05:42:50] <binaryc> pingfloyd,pingu - suggestions for
getting into building distro from scratch. Something i have thought
about but never took a step towards.
1018 [05:42:54] <pingu> Can you teach me? We can take the
commonalities of our names and call it "PingOS".
1019 [05:43:08] <pingfloyd> binaryc: a good learning exercise for
that is LFS/BLFS
1020 [05:43:48] <pingu> What about just taking Debian apart and
putting it back together again; instead of completely from scratch?
1021 [05:44:05] <pingfloyd> LFS deals with bootstrapping/building
the main toolchain, and BLFS with building more programs
1022 [05:44:06] <binaryc> seconded- Was unsure if starting from
scratch or fork was more worthwhile learning exercise.
1023 [05:44:06] <pingu> Starting with a post-installation script.
1024 [05:44:07] <JosephineBlack> hmm
1025 [05:44:20] <pingfloyd> pingu: yeah, doing a fork would
probably be more practical
1026 [05:44:28] <pingfloyd> pingu: because then all you have to
maintain is the changes you want
1027 [05:44:53] <JosephineBlack> one quest all win 100 Dollar
1028 [05:44:58] <JosephineBlack> so I ask
1029 [05:45:05] <JosephineBlack> pingfloyed
1030 [05:45:13] <JosephineBlack> what is AK47 ?
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1033 [05:45:22] <pingu> I'm willing to do it, as long as
I'm not alone; since I'm not that knowledgeable about
anything too technical.
1034 [05:45:26] <pingfloyd> probably most practical would be
maintaining a repo with your changes for an existing dist
1035 [05:45:26] <JosephineBlack> 10
1036 [05:45:30] <JosephineBlack> 8
1037 [05:45:33] <JosephineBlack> 6
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1049 [05:46:43] <binaryc> Anything to learn from watching debian
repo - merging changes myself and building nightlies ?
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1051 [05:47:09] <surfist> where would I go for libinput advice?
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1059 [05:48:33] <pingu> surfist: Peter Hutterer
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1067 [05:52:15] <surfist> heh what network/channel does he live
on?
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1070 [05:52:53] <surfist> 2 finger scrolling is my nemesis
currently
1071 [05:52:59] <pingu> IDK, I was just looking at the man page.
1072 [05:53:25] <surfist> I figure some gnome guru might be
lurking somewhere
1073 [05:53:53] <surfist> or X guru
1074 [05:53:53] <pingfloyd> I love 2 finger scroll myself
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1077 [05:54:31] <pingfloyd> surfist: if gnome doesn't have
the needed settings you want for your touchpad, look into synclient
1078 [05:54:33] <socomm> pingfloyd: scroll mouse gets my vote
1079 [05:54:46] <pingu> I prefer Logitech's hyperscroll
technology.
1080 [05:54:47] <pingfloyd> synclient is so much more configurable
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1100 [06:02:39] <altker128> Hey guys. I'm running Debian
Jessie with the MATE desktop but can't seem to get Compiz
turned on. I've installed Compiz from this repo:
replaced-url
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1103 [06:03:58] <surfist> borked
1104 [06:04:03] <surfist> anyhow....
1105 [06:04:05] <surfist> synclient: Couldn't find synaptics
properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
1106 [06:04:13] <Rusty1_> try #compix channel altker128
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1108 [06:04:29] <Rusty1_> er , #compiz
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1128 [06:19:18] <_unreal_> if a build is setup to start bluetooth
services during early boot. where would I find the scripts? any
ideas
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1133 [06:22:22] <pingfloyd> _unreal_: under /etc/init.d/ or
/lib/systemd/
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1139 [06:24:37] <_unreal_> pingfloyd, checking
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1146 [06:26:28] <mtcj> Heeelooo De-bi-an!
1147 [06:26:41] <mtcj> (Just watched that movie.)
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1156 [06:34:14] <_unreal_> pingfloyd, init.d doesnt exist, but
systemd does, and
replaced-url
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1161 [06:37:40] <pingfloyd> you don't have an /etc/init.d/
directory?
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1163 [06:39:54] <pingfloyd> _unreal_: if you want to see all
systemd units on the system (including inactive ones): systemctl -a
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1165 [06:40:23] <pingfloyd> I'm not sure whether it will be
sysv init script of systemd unit handling bluetooth though
1166 [06:40:36] <pingfloyd> s/of/or
1167 [06:40:56] <_unreal_> ok.... multi choice then :)
1168 [06:41:00] <pingfloyd> I'm not using bluetooth here to
really check
1169 [06:41:02] <_unreal_> thank you watson
1170 [06:41:35] <_unreal_> omg this computer is painfully slow
1171 [06:41:46] <_unreal_> 800mhz arm with 1gb ram
1172 [06:41:47] <_unreal_> hehe
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1174 [06:42:26] <kimN> hi guys. I have hybrid graphics
intel/nvidia. But i don't want to use bumblebee nor do I care
about the intel graphics. How do I set my system up so it only uses
the nvidia chip? Right now, nvidia-detect returns with "No
NVIDIA GPU detected."
1175 [06:43:01] <_unreal_> hybrid?
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1179 [06:43:48] <kimN> yes. hybrid. my laptop has intel integrated
graphics and nvidia geforce 820m
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1182 [06:44:28] <vvande> I think you can turn it off in the BIOS
1183 [06:45:25] <kimN> I tried turning it off in the BIOS, but
there's no option to do that in my BIOS
1184 [06:46:01] <kimN> This laptop ran ubuntu, prior to debian and
ubuntu didn't seem to have any problem using the nvidia card
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1186 [06:47:07] <_unreal_> vvande, no bios
1187 [06:47:10] <_unreal_> this is a cubox
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1189 [06:47:27] <vvande> oh
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1194 [06:50:22] <axlr> ubuntu is for kids
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1196 [06:51:43] <mtcj> African word for Slackware is too hard
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1198 [06:51:53] <themill> wrong channel?
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1201 [06:52:28] <axlr> pure debian is king
1202 [06:52:33] <mtcj> Nah just that's the only distro
I've heard the joke about
1203 [06:52:47] <mtcj> I'm sure lots of distros are used for
the joke though
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1205 [06:53:43] <axlr> :)
1206 [06:53:43] <axlr> joker is back
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1275 [07:53:53] <Hink> What SOCKS servers on Debian work and are
not super out of date? I looked at dante server, but it's
apparently really deprecated and unsupported on versions above
Wheezy:
replaced-url
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1279 [07:55:37] <Hink>
replaced-url
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1293 [08:00:59] <fernie> Hink: ssh? see ssh -D
1294 [08:02:52] <vvande> lol
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1306 [08:08:15] <Hink> ssh, eh no.
1307 [08:08:16] <Hink> That is exactly what I am trying to be
avoiding.
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1314 [08:11:54] <blockcubed> I wonder how sshhh became the sound
for "be quiet"
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1320 [08:18:40] <H4ndy> blockcubed: I think it roughly resembled
the sound of wispered voice
1321 [08:19:25] <blockcubed> I did some looking and from the
origin of the words hush or shush sounds pretty legit too
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1323 [08:19:59] <blockcubed> also something about sounds the
arabic made
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1379 [09:19:56] <jugkettle> !hours
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1393 [09:25:54] <deb13> So this is weird: I'm trying to run
Debian on a new ASUS laptop, I've downloaded and run the
liveCD+firmware, and my touchpad just... isn't registering?
1394 [09:26:37] <deb13> Like, I'm pretty sure it's not
even showing up in `/proc/bus/input/devices`, levels of not
registering.
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1398 [09:27:33] <deb13> Anyone have any suggestions for what to
do/where I should look or search next?
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1400 [09:28:17] <pingfloyd> deb13: you sure it isn't disabled
in say the bios?
1401 [09:29:18] <deb13> I'm pretty sure all USB stuff was
UnLock-ed in BIOS..? It works in Windows...
1402 [09:30:03] <deb13> (Would it maybe work in Windows because of
UEFI-stuff but be disabled in liveUSB Debian..?)
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1409 [09:35:41] <teraflops> deb13: debian livevd does not do UEFI
iirc
1410 [09:36:28] <teraflops> livedvd*
1411 [09:36:56] <deb13> I know -- I figured out what settings to
switch in BIOS to allow it to boot. I've successfully booted.
The problem now is the touchpad being completely invisible.
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1415 [09:40:38] <teraflops> deb13: identify the device via lspci
then gogle about it
1416 [09:40:50] <teraflops> google*
1417 [09:41:14] <teraflops> you want the pci id
1418 [09:41:53] <deb13> What would it look like in lspci?
1419 [09:42:15] <teraflops> if it's usb then lsusb.
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1422 [09:42:38] <teraflops> deb13: what kind of touchpad is it?
1423 [09:43:05] <deb13> lsusb isn't installed -- can I
install something while running a liveUSB?
1424 [09:43:15] <teraflops> yep
1425 [09:43:50] <teraflops> also xorg.log may help.
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1429 [09:44:32] <teraflops> even dmesg. and lsmod too
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1432 [09:45:35] <cryptonix2> is there a command to search for
files installed from a specific package?
1433 [09:47:47] <deb13> (ach, frick, where the heck is
"connect to WiFi" in XFCE...)
1434 [09:47:51] <teraflops> cryptonix2: dpkg -L package name
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1440 [09:55:23] <deb13> Wait. Huh. Um, how would I check if this
same problem is happening to the WiFi thing as well...?
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1443 [10:00:01] <deb13> How can I check whether it can't see
the WiFi hardware also...?
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1445 [10:00:41] <teraflops> lspci
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1448 [10:01:08] <deb13> What would I look for?
1449 [10:01:48] <deb13> Oh: "Network controller: Qualcomm
Atheros Device"?
1450 [10:01:56] <teraflops> grep -i for wireless or network
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1452 [10:02:07] <teraflops> sounds promising
1453 [10:03:11] <Fjorgynn> hej
1454 [10:03:16] <simbalion> Can anyone tell me why this mp3 file
doesn't play audio in smplayer, vlc, or firefox, but works in
cmus and audacity?
replaced-url
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1456 [10:04:00] <teraflops> deb13: look if you have the firmware
atheros package installed5
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1459 [10:05:14] <deb13> How do I check that? modprobe something?
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1463 [10:07:56] <han-solo> dpkg
1464 [10:07:58] <deb13> Ah. apt search atheros shows
firmware-atheros as [installed].
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1467 [10:08:27] <deb13> So I do have it...
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1475 [10:12:14] <SpeedyG> hey, just a general sys-admin
question.... is there any added value in nic teaming/bonding when
working with virtual servers?
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1479 [10:13:19] <deb13> Okay, I need to go. I'll take another
shot at this later. Thanks.
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1482 [10:14:46] <babilen> SpeedyG: You mean on the hypervisor?
1483 [10:15:47] <SpeedyG> babilen: nope, the guests... on the
hypervisor I kinda assume it to be of added value :)
1484 [10:16:23] <SpeedyG> if you config it correctly on the
hypervisor, there'd probably be no need for it on the guests
right?
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1486 [10:16:34] <babilen> yeah
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1488 [10:17:07] <babilen> I mean, try it, but I would - at best -
expect it to have similar performance
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1491 [10:18:00] <SpeedyG> thx :) that kinda validates my logic :)
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1503 [10:23:45] <speciality> Do you know anyone who would provide
Debian training ?
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1507 [10:25:38] <han-solo> What?
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1520 [10:32:12] <bibble_> unbound dns listening 0.0.0.0:53,
connect with openvpn and make request 10.8.0.1:53. this only works
when firewall allows port 53. why is this ? isn't 10.8.0.1 a
local address like 127.0.0.1 ?
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1528 [10:34:30] <digdilem> no, 10.* is a private non-internet
range
1529 [10:34:34] <digdilem> like 192.168.*
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1531 [10:34:47] <Fjorgynn> can I list all installed packages in
debian?
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1533 [10:35:02] <digdilem> Fjorgynn, dpkg --get-selections |grep
install
1534 [10:35:26] <Fjorgynn> thanks
1535 [10:35:34] <digdilem> np
1536 [10:35:56] <bibble_> see digdilem.
1537 [10:36:11] <babilen> Fjorgynn: What do you plan to use that
list for?
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1540 [10:37:51] <Fjorgynn> see what I can uninstall in raspbian ;)
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1542 [10:38:16] <Fjorgynn> why do I get some "deinstall"
? :o
1543 [10:38:31] <Fjorgynn> off stuff I've had but deinstalled
1544 [10:39:10] <maziar> i want to send email from my debian
command line, from my gmail, to yahoo mail, how can do it? is there
any tutorial ?
1545 [10:39:29] <unborn> maziar: install sendemail (not sendmail)
1546 [10:39:37] <digdilem> if you run it without the |grep bit, it
just returns a list of statuses, Fjorgynn. the grep filters out any
status that has install in it, which also includes deinstall
1547 [10:39:49] <digdilem> you can always filter it out with a
smarter grep or manually afterwards
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1550 [10:40:02] <maziar> unborn do you have any "how to"
for it
1551 [10:40:12] <unborn> oh sure. one moment
1552 [10:40:35] <unborn> maziar:
replaced-url
1553 [10:41:10] <unborn> there is an info even how to send email
from gmail as well.. like direct command etc.. ^^^
1554 [10:42:05] <bibble_> maziar: there's also ssmtp, and
just gmail credentials to config file:
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1555 [10:42:22] <unborn> maziar: i think you can install it via
apt-get install sendemail
1556 [10:42:31] <maziar> bibble_ let me check your link
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1559 [10:42:59] <maziar> unborn i know how to install it, but i
don't know how to configure it
1560 [10:43:26] <Fjorgynn> sosse!
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1562 [10:43:50] <unborn> maziar: it should be in debian repos I
think.. just apt-get install sendemail.. you should not need to
configure anything.. just send email from terminal
1563 [10:43:59] <unborn> maziar: its all on that page
replaced-url
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1565 [10:44:33] <maziar> unborn where should i configure my sender
email address, and its password and its smtp address ?
1566 [10:44:42] <unborn> maziar: in command
1567 [10:44:43] <unborn> heh
1568 [10:44:59] <maziar> unborn :|
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1572 [10:45:54] <unborn> there is zero config.. if that is from
your laptop you should be safe to put those into your scripts (if
that is what you want to use it for), or just into your terminal..
1573 [10:46:45] <kroSoft> Hi all
1574 [10:47:11] <unborn> if you would like to have some config
perhaps it is possible.. dont know.. I do not used into that
extend.. just read that page. or perhaps use what bibble_ suggested.
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1578 [10:48:08] <kroSoft> unborn, can i use this software in
unrealircd.conf, when someone register his user and sendmail will
send him mail for confirmation ?
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1580 [10:48:59] <unborn> kroSoft: you should be able to, if you
will tell unrealircd how..
1581 [10:51:11] <unborn> kroSoft: I use it for various stuff
including notifications from server like if someones login into my
ssh or my ip will change it.. so I think its possible.. for me it
works nicely and as zero config, I dont need to spend much time to
play with it.
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1584 [10:52:31] <kroSoft> unborn: ok, i will try it, as i see
it's simple and no much time to spend.. lol
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1609 [11:05:30] <Anarchy> hi there I have proftpd installed and
running but it isnt listening to port 21, although on proftpd.conf
Port is 21, how can I solve this issue?
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1612 [11:06:07] <AlwaysHigh> ana
1613 [11:06:21] <AlwaysHigh> Anarchy, u should make it run thru
sftp
1614 [11:06:23] <AlwaysHigh> atleast
1615 [11:06:26] <AlwaysHigh> fuck port 21
1616 [11:06:44] <AlwaysHigh> so port 22 atleast
1617 [11:06:47] <Anarchy> if they both use the same port wont it
be problem?
1618 [11:07:04] <AlwaysHigh> no
1619 [11:07:11] <kroSoft> unborn: i must install mail server in my
vps after use this software ?
1620 [11:07:13] <Anarchy> ok I will change the port to 22 and
restart
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1622 [11:08:00] <unborn> kroSoft: no not at all.. sendemail (not
sendmail)
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1628 [11:10:40] <unborn> Anarchy: see my reply on another channel
1629 [11:11:11] <kroSoft> vps300596 sendEmail[23880]: ERROR =>
Connection attempt to localhost:25 failed: IO::Socket::INET:
connect: Connexion refusée
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1632 [11:11:33] <unborn> kroSoft: are you sure you installed
sendEmail and not sendmail?
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1634 [11:11:54] <kroSoft> yes yes im sure
1635 [11:11:58] <kroSoft> wait
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1639 [11:12:27] <kroSoft> shark@vps300596:~/sendEmail-v1.56$
./sendEmail -f shark@zidnet.ovh -t walidzid@gmail.com -u
"hello" -m "mail de test"
1640 [11:12:27] <kroSoft> Sep 11 11:10:41 vps300596
sendEmail[23880]: ERROR => Connection attempt to localhost:25
failed: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Connexion refusée
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1642 [11:13:32] <unborn> kroSoft: sendEmail -o tls=yes -f
YourEmail@gmail.com -t SomeoneYoureEmailing@domain.com -s
smtp.gmail.com:587 -xu YourEmail@gmail.com -xp YOURPASSWORD -u
"Hello from sendEmail" -m "How are you? I'm
testing sendEmail from the command line."
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1644 [11:13:55] <kroSoft> Ok
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1648 [11:16:28] <unborn> kroSoft: that is for gmail as en
example.. but you can generally connect to any smtp server with
desired port.. for your gmail test it with command I posted above
just change the values to yours. after test you can replace
someoneyoureemailing@domain.com with variable from your unrealircd
script same with message body and subject
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1657 [11:21:00] <ThisIsZenified> t
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1661 [11:23:09] <kroSoft> unborn please how to install :
Net::SSLeay and IO::Socket::SSL
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1664 [11:25:06] <unborn> kroSoft: for? script should work right a
way.. or coz of unrealircd?
1665 [11:25:30] <kroSoft> for script
1666 [11:25:56] <kroSoft> sendEmail[23901]: ERROR => No TLS
support! SendEmail can't load required libraries. (try
installing Net::SSLeay and IO::Socket::SSL)
1667 [11:26:28] <ThisIsZenified> kroSoft: try, apt-cache search
ssleay?
1668 [11:26:30] <unborn> kroSoft: heh.. you can try to install
libnet-ssleay-perl and install libcrypt-ssleay-perl
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1670 [11:26:36] <ThisIsZenified> kroSoft: try, apt-cache search
socket | grep ssl ?
1671 [11:26:52] <kroSoft> ok one moment
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1674 [11:29:42] <unborn> kroSoft: or you could use this command to
found out: apt-cache depends sendemail
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1676 [11:30:19] <kroSoft> sendemail
1677 [11:30:19] <kroSoft> Dépend: perl
1678 [11:30:19] <kroSoft> Dépend: libio-socket-inet6-perl
1679 [11:30:19] <kroSoft> Suggère: libio-socket-ssl-perl
1680 [11:30:19] <kroSoft> Suggère: libnet-ssleay-perl
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replaced-url
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1684 [11:30:45] <kroSoft> sudo apt-cache depends sendEmail
|pastebinit
1685 [11:30:45] <kroSoft>
replaced-url
1686 [11:30:46] <kroSoft> :))
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1688 [11:30:50] <unborn> :)
1689 [11:30:57] <unborn> so just install those and it should work
1690 [11:31:02] <kroSoft> Ok good
1691 [11:31:07] <kroSoft> wait
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1697 [11:36:20] <kroSoft> unborn are you sure about the port of
gmail ? 587
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1702 [11:37:11] <unborn> kroSoft: you can use 465 as well..
1703 [11:37:21] <unborn> if 587 does not worked
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1706 [11:37:28] <kroSoft> i this is 465
1707 [11:37:33] <kroSoft> i think is 465
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1714 [11:42:53] <kroSoft> :P
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1717 [11:43:09] <kroSoft> the working port is 25 in Gmail
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1719 [11:43:31] <kroSoft> and i have this lol invalid SSL_version
:PP
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1721 [11:43:54] <kroSoft> i must fix this problem...
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1724 [11:44:28] <kroSoft> invalid SSL_version specified at
/usr/share/perl5/IO/Socket/SSL.pm line 492.
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1727 [11:44:54] <kroSoft> unborn, did you have this problem when u
used sendEmail for the fisrt time ?
1728 [11:45:04] <unborn> kroSoft:
replaced-url
1729 [11:45:16] <unborn> kroSoft: nope I did not.. it even
installed depens for me
1730 [11:45:32] <unborn> i just installed sendemail and use it
right a way
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1768 [12:06:16] <kroSoft> unborn: thanks for your support but i
think i have somme problem with the tls in my vps, i will try to fix
it :)
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1772 [12:06:55] <MoonTiger> hi guys :)
1773 [12:07:14] <MoonTiger> i'm having a weird issue plugging
in an external usb drive
1774 [12:07:41] <MoonTiger> fails on debian stretch but works fine
on windows on same machine
1775 [12:07:53] <MoonTiger> anybody heard of something like this?
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1778 [12:08:47] <MoonTiger> [ 154.650599] usb 2-3: Device not
responding to setup address. [ 154.857785] usb 2-3: Device not
responding to setup address. [ 155.058404] usb 2-3: device not
accepting address 2, error -71
1779 [12:08:55] <MoonTiger> this is what dmesg gives me
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1786 [12:11:17] <tomreyn> MoonTiger: unplug this device, then
unplug all (or as many aspossible, it's just temporarily) other
usb devices, then re-plug the non-working device.
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1789 [12:11:41] <MoonTiger> tomreyn, there are no other usb
devices plugged in
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1791 [12:12:34] <tomreyn> okay, does the external usb drive allow
for it to be externally powered (i.e. not over usb)? if so, try
that.
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1793 [12:13:00] <MoonTiger> tomreyn, no it's a s.5" usb
external 1tb
1794 [12:13:06] <MoonTiger> 2.5
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1796 [12:13:36] <altker128> MoonTiger: Try a different USB port.
Could be a USB qwirk
1797 [12:13:59] <MoonTiger> altker128, i tried all 3 on the laptop
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1801 [12:14:17] <tomreyn> MoonTiger: is the laptop running from
battery or A/C?
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1805 [12:14:32] <MoonTiger> tomreyn, AC
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1807 [12:14:53] <tomreyn> which debian release?
1808 [12:14:56] <MoonTiger> like i said, if i reboot to win10 it
works as it should
1809 [12:15:01] <MoonTiger> stretch
1810 [12:15:11] <tomreyn> oh you said this, sorry
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1812 [12:15:28] <tomreyn> check for firmware updates
1813 [12:15:45] <MoonTiger> tomreyn, firmware for what?
1814 [12:15:55] <tomreyn> the drives' controller
1815 [12:16:38] <MoonTiger> tomreyn, not sure if that would change
anything? win10 sees it and works with it just fine
1816 [12:16:47] <MoonTiger> am i missing something?
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1819 [12:17:07] <tomreyn> most hardware is tested with windows but
not linux
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1821 [12:17:31] <MoonTiger> tomreyn, yes understood - just never
had this happen before with any drive ever
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1823 [12:18:04] <tomreyn> when they go to market and people report
"doesnt work with linux", some vendors may make firmware
updates available to make their stuff compatible / actually comply
with standards.
1824 [12:18:47] <tomreyn> you could also try booting off some live
linux and see whether it's detected there and then compare
kernel versions
1825 [12:20:21] <MoonTiger> yes i thought to try a live ubuntu
boot
1826 [12:20:27] <MoonTiger> will give that a go - thanks
1827 [12:20:29] <MoonTiger> :)
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1844 [12:35:17] <Midnightx> why this cinnamon eating ram so much
T.T
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1858 [12:46:26] <hexnewbie> OK, so I have a card reader that
systemd-udev-settle is waiting for for 7seconds on Jessie. Do I have
reasonable options to cut those 7 seconds from my boot time? The
udev-finish are waiting for it, and I also have my ZFS service that
are waiting for it (and /home waits on that). I could rewrite the
latter to wait for my hard drives by name, not sure if that's a
good idea. Do I have other options (other than mask it and pray I
don't hit a race)?
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1882 [13:05:14] <no_gravity> How can I figure out if a particular
driver is in use right now?
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1891 [13:10:04] <altker128> no_gravity: lsmod if it's a
module or dmesg possibly
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1896 [13:11:43] <no_gravity> altker128: Every driver that is
currently used is in the output of lsmod?
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1898 [13:12:25] <hexnewbie> Not every
1899 [13:12:37] <hexnewbie> lsblk can show some users for block
devices
1900 [13:13:20] <no_gravity> Well, I am trying to fix my wifi (for
like 5 days now...). Somebody suggested to "unload conflicting
modules: modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac bcma". I
would like to look up if they are used at all.
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1902 [13:13:51] <babilen> Did you try the driver from
jessie-backports as suggested?
1903 [13:13:54] <iKarith> whew! That took a little bit of doing,
but I've accomplished it! lvmcache + LUKS on the whole system.
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1905 [13:14:19] <babilen> no_gravity: "lspci -knn|grep -i
network" should provide the information you are after
1906 [13:14:37] <no_gravity> babilen: which info?
1907 [13:14:41] <hexnewbie> no_gravity: The command will fail if
they are used, but yeah, lsmod shows if the modules are indeed in
use.
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1909 [13:15:00] <no_gravity> babilen: If those 6 modules are used?
1910 [13:15:05] <hexnewbie> no_gravity: But most likely one of
those modules is used by another one, and the other by another.
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1912 [13:15:42] <no_gravity> So if someboday suggests to
"modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac bcma" - is
there a way to figure out if this could make sense? As in: if these
modules are loaded at all?
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1914 [13:15:57] <babilen> no_gravity: Did you run the command I
just gave you?
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1916 [13:16:17] <babilen> And did you install the broadcom-sta-wl
package from jessie-backports as suggested yesterday?
1917 [13:16:20] <no_gravity> babilen: Atm it is more about
understanding linux then about running random commands and see what
happens.
1918 [13:16:23] <iKarith> As with most things LVM, there's
lots of slightly incompatible and incomplete "guides" on
doing it, and the standard documentation has too many options to
make it easy to figure out what you really want. But for a
"single partition" setup with swap, it's doable. But
not completely from within the installer.
1919 [13:16:36] <no_gravity> babilen: Right now I am trying to
figure out if a module is used.
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1921 [13:16:39] <hexnewbie> no_gravity: Actually, I think
we're presently talking about two definitions of
“used”. babilen told you how to see if the driver is
used for a device, altker128 and I told you how to check if the
module is in use by a program
1922 [13:16:54] <babilen> no_gravity: That's a wise choice
... The command I gave you will list the kernel module in use. Did
you run it?
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1924 [13:17:37] <babilen> If you have questions about that command
then please ask it
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1926 [13:18:06] <no_gravity> babilen: Ok, so "lspci
-knn" shows all kernel moduls that are currently loaded?
1927 [13:18:26] <hexnewbie> no_gravity: It shows all PCI devices
on the system, and the module that is loaded *for* them
1928 [13:18:34] <babilen> No, it doesn't. It lists all PCI
devices, their names, PCIID and the kernel modules in use
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1931 [13:18:53] <babilen> If you were to run the complete command
I mentioned it would become rather obvious what it does
1932 [13:18:54] <no_gravity> Hmm.. ok. I'm not even sure what
a PCI device is though :)
1933 [13:19:06] <babilen> If you need additional information feel
free to read the manpage with "man lspci"
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1935 [13:19:38] <no_gravity> All modules related to wifi should be
in the output of "lspci -knn"?
1936 [13:19:55] <babilen> Yes, but that's not the command I
gave you
1937 [13:20:35] <no_gravity> babilen: Yeah, but as I said, this is
about my understanding of linux.
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1939 [13:21:07] <babilen> I don't know what more I can say
than "It lists all PCI devices, their names, PCIID and the
kernel modules in use"
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1942 [13:21:53] <no_gravity> And since WiFi hardware is usually a
PCI device, everything WiFi should be in there, right?
1943 [13:22:25] <babilen> Many people use USB dongles, so no
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1945 [13:23:00] <babilen> But under the assumption that every WiFi
device is a PCI device you would be correct
1946 [13:23:05] <no_gravity> Ok
1947 [13:23:10] <hexnewbie> no_gravity: There isn't exactly a
simple way to tell you exactly what modules used by what exactly -
lspci -knn and lsmod give you only a bit of the information.
There's a pretty complicated way to get more, are you sure you
need that though?
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1949 [13:23:31] <no_gravity> hexnewbie: I'm not yet sure what
I need. Just trying to understand it all.
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1954 [13:26:17] <no_gravity> In the output of "lspci
-knn", a line like "kernel modules: bcma, wl"
1955 [13:26:37] <no_gravity> In the output of "lspci
-knn", a line like "kernel modules: bcma, wl" does
not mean that they are used, only that they exist, right?
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1958 [13:27:17] <babilen> no_gravity: To cut this short: I'd
recommend to install both a newer kernel and broadcom-sta-wl from
backports.
1959 [13:27:23] <babilen> dpkg: bdo kernel
1960 [13:27:24] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
1961 [13:27:34] <babilen> Similar for broadcom-sta-wl
1962 [13:27:59] <babilen> Before that install headers with apt-get
-t jessie-backports linux-headers-amd64
1963 [13:28:04] <babilen> err
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1965 [13:28:13] <babilen> apt-get -t jessie-backports install
linux-headers-amd64
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1982 [13:40:25] <xenomorph_xx_121> hi, if i have two versions of
g++ installed, how can i tell cmake/make to use the older version?
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1996 [13:49:04] <REGETT> Hi all! I need help with IBM BladeCenter,
some body can help me?
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2000 [13:51:30] <Capum321> how to run a command, after wake up
from suspended system - with anacron or system-sleep ? - and parse?
the login credentials to DM, so the script can run a GUI app, like a
irc client.
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2002 [13:53:05] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: not sure about GUI
stuff but these days im putting scripts for resume in
/lib/systemd/system-sleep
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2008 [13:53:50] <Capum321> yes it's sure a possibility, but
all the process i am trying to code, is unattended
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2011 [13:54:26] <Capum321> listen i have gather some information,
maybe you could help me but that into code...
2012 [13:54:33] <Capum321> put*
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2014 [13:55:43] <Capum321> you could take this service unit of
anacron's as a template:
/lib/systemd/system/anacron-resume.service / and use the User=
directive described in "man systemd.exec" / put your
custom service unity in /etc/systemd/system if it's a system
job, /etc/systemd/user if it's a job that should be run by
logged in users.
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2020 [13:59:27] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: are you talking about
actually making the script log-in? or run something within an
existing session?
2021 [13:59:49] <Capum321> the former
2022 [14:00:19] <Capum321> the whole steps of the script is
unattended
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2024 [14:01:33] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: but don't you
already have an x session running when the machine suspends?
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2026 [14:02:25] <Capum321> thats a good point, i don't know
how it behaves. it will sleep from a x session, yes.
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2030 [14:04:27] <julius_> hi
2031 [14:04:49] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: in that case you
might just need to set the display variable (DISPLAY=:0) and use su
to run your script as your gui user
2032 [14:05:01] <julius_> is there a way to have skype run on
jessie/64bit without installing all the 32bit packages?
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2040 [14:08:35] <xenomorph_xx_121> julius_: i dont think the new
skype alpha needs them. but i dont know how well that works
2041 [14:08:48] <julius_> yeah just found that
2042 [14:08:51] <julius_> thanks, will try
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2045 [14:09:33] <Fjorgynn> thanks
2046 [14:10:00] <Capum321> xenomorph_xx_121: what file should I
edit?
2047 [14:10:26] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: i'd probably try
to make a script in the folder i mentioned earlier
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2049 [14:11:13] <Capum321> off course
2050 [14:11:27] <Capum321> but the template example?
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2055 [14:12:40] <Capum321> you see, the wake up should be
unattended. no user action to wake the system.
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2061 [14:13:45] <jimcooncat> Guys, I don't know what I'm
looking for. I want to query the walmart.com api and get a .csv of
the results. What tools would I use to do this without (a lot of)
programming?
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2063 [14:14:26] <Fjorgynn> aha
2064 [14:15:33] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: i dont know what you
mean by wake up unattended. but as for the script, either copy one
that is already there, or read the systemd documentation
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2071 [14:18:09] <jimcooncat> oh well
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2073 [14:18:13] <fughetta> hi, having trouble with nvidia drivers
if anyone can help me
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2077 [14:18:30] <hassonofer> How do I tell
update-java-alternatives to ignore errors
2078 [14:18:40] <Capum321> xenomorph_xx_121: wake up the suspended
system while user AFK!
2079 [14:18:48] <hassonofer> It fails when i try to use java 1.8
because i don't have icedtea installed
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2081 [14:19:16] <fughetta> I installed nvidia-drivers from
jessie-backport and did everything that was on the debian wiki site.
I also renamed xorg.conf and rebooted to see if it would replace it
with a working file. it didn't
2082 [14:19:27] <MOZGIII> hello, can I somehow request a package
backport from testing to stable? I need an updated u-boot
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2084 [14:19:47] <MOZGIII> Or can I do it myself maybe?
2085 [14:19:59] <fughetta> I get to the GUI login screen (alt-f7)
and it gives me an oh no! something went wrong.
2086 [14:20:05] <babilen> dpkg: ssb
2087 [14:20:06] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2090 [14:20:11] <babilen> MOZGIII: ^
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2092 [14:20:34] <babilen> judd: checkbackport u-boot
2093 [14:20:35] <judd> Backporting package u-boot in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie, archignore.
2094 [14:20:36] <MOZGIII> babilen, thanks, I'll take a look
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2096 [14:20:43] <babilen> Should work
2097 [14:20:56] <ewew> Hi. Does anyone have trouble with rsyslog
not logging after log rotation ?
2098 [14:21:03] <jim> hi... my wireless sorta works... but I
happened to notice there were other firmware files,,, would they
happen to be packaged? take a look at:
replaced-url
2099 [14:21:15] <xenomorph_xx_121> Capum321: u mean wake-on-lan?
2100 [14:22:06] <MOZGIII> babilen, so, not it's supposed to
be in the backport repo?
2101 [14:22:21] <babilen> judd: v u-boot
2102 [14:22:22] <judd> Package: u-boot on amd64 -- wheezy:
2012.04.01-2
2103 [14:22:44] <MOZGIII> judd: ?
2104 [14:22:53] <babilen> Ah .. it is in wheezy, but not in jessie
nor testing or unstable
2105 [14:22:59] <Capum321> xenomorph_xx_121: no, completely off.
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2107 [14:23:31] <babilen> MOZGIII: Maybe you can grab the package
from wheezy, but there probably is a reason why it is no longer in
the archive
2108 [14:23:35] <MOZGIII> babilen, on jessie it's 2014.10 (in
stable, not backports)
2109 [14:24:00] <Capum321> xenomorph_xx_121: no user interaction
at all
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2111 [14:24:32] <babilen> MOZGIII: Do you happen to know the name
of the package? Are you actually referring to u-boot-tools rather
than u-boot?
2112 [14:24:40] <MOZGIII> babilen, it's strange cause it
shouldn't even depend on anything on the system
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2114 [14:25:20] <babilen> I guess you mean u-boot-tools .. that
package can also be backported with the aforementioned procedure
2115 [14:25:27] <MOZGIII> babilen, eh, I actually just want
u-boot, to begin with, to flash the latest version to my nand
2116 [14:25:58] <babilen> MOZGIII: Is that the name of the
executable?
2117 [14:26:23] <MOZGIII> babilen, I could as well manually build
it somewhere else, but it just seems strange that it isn't
backported like everything else
2118 [14:26:40] <babilen> Not everything is backported
2119 [14:26:46] <babilen> judd: v u-boot-tools
2120 [14:26:47] <judd> Package: u-boot-tools on amd64 -- wheezy:
2012.04.01-2; jessie: 2014.10+dfsg1-5; stretch: 2016.03+dfsg1-6;
sid: 2016.03+dfsg1-6; experimental: 2016.09~rc2+dfsg1-1
2121 [14:26:55] <babilen> MOZGIII: Do you mean that ^
2122 [14:26:56] <MOZGIII> babilen, it only contains images, no
executables
2123 [14:27:20] <babilen> I have never used u-boot and simply
trying to figure out the name of the package so that I can help you
to backport it
2124 [14:27:28] <babilen> (as you don't seem to know it)
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2128 [14:28:03] <MOZGIII> babilen, yeah, I guess I'd need
u-boot-tools as well, but my original question was about u-boot
package:
replaced-url
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2130 [14:29:00] <REGETT> Hi again
2131 [14:29:00] <MOZGIII> babilen, or maybe I need just
u-boot-sunxi
2132 [14:29:05] <ov3_> would it be better to install hacking tools
on jessie or have a distro like kali?
2133 [14:29:14] <ov3_> anyone/
2134 [14:29:19] <ov3_> ?
2135 [14:29:28] <REGETT> Who work with IBM BladeCenter
2136 [14:29:29] <babilen> MOZGIII: Yeah, that shouldn't be a
problem either
2137 [14:29:30] <REGETT> ?
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2139 [14:29:51] <babilen> MOZGIII: Sorry, the bot queries packages
for amd64 by default. You are obviously using a different
architecture.
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2141 [14:30:03] <babilen> ov3_: Better for what?
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2143 [14:30:25] <MOZGIII> babilen, oh, yeah, sorry :) I'm
using armhf
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2145 [14:30:55] <babilen> MOZGIII: That threw mew off .. I have no
checked with different tools. Either way the 'ssb'
procedure should work
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2147 [14:31:05] <babilen> judd: v u-boot --arch armhf
2148 [14:31:06] <judd> Package: u-boot on armhf -- wheezy:
2012.04.01-2; jessie: 2014.10+dfsg1-5; stretch: 2016.03+dfsg1-6;
sid: 2016.03+dfsg1-6; experimental: 2016.09~rc2+dfsg1-1
2149 [14:31:17] <MOZGIII> babilen, and what does this bot do? Will
it do the backporting for packages to just appear in the repos?
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2153 [14:32:06] <MOZGIII> judd: v u-boot-tools --arch armhf
2154 [14:32:07] <judd> Package: u-boot-tools on armhf -- wheezy:
2012.04.01-2; jessie: 2014.10+dfsg1-5; stretch: 2016.03+dfsg1-6;
sid: 2016.03+dfsg1-6; experimental: 2016.09~rc2+dfsg1-1
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2156 [14:33:06] <Guest42265> babilen: convenient while upgrading?
2157 [14:33:11] <hassonofer> update-java-alternatives does not
update javac, any ideas why ?
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2163 [14:34:44] <unborn> Guest42265: changing nick that many times
per second or two without changing your host.. whats the point?
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2165 [14:35:10] <unborn> i mean ov3_
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2207 [15:05:34] <SweetPear> Hi, can someone tell me how I can
safely setup ftp with an anonymous account
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2227 [15:18:45] <altker128> SweetPear: Safe and FTP are probably
on opposite ends of the spectrum. If you have OpenSSH running you
can use sftp
2228 [15:19:09] <SweetPear> Hmm
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2230 [15:19:16] <SweetPear> I have OpenSSH
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2232 [15:19:36] <SweetPear> Does sftp have the same anonymous
thing as ftp?
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2242 [15:24:32] <SweetPear> altker128: Is it possible to make a
sftp account that one has access to a specific read-only file?
2243 [15:24:41] <SweetPear> only*
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2245 [15:26:04] <wingman2> You can have anonymous sftp but
it's insane and I won't help you
2246 [15:27:14] <Rephlexie> I think you can chroot a sftp user,
but its a pain.
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2251 [15:32:24] <digdilem> if read only, why not just http that
file?
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2253 [15:33:17] <SweetPear> digdilem, c++ doesn't want to do
what I want it to do xd
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2255 [15:34:03] <altker128> SweetPear: Do you have to restrict it
to read-only? You could create a user on the system
2256 [15:34:11] <axlr> i come in peace
2257 [15:34:39] <SweetPear> altker128, Hmm
2258 [15:35:00] <SweetPear> With chroot or something?
2259 [15:35:04] <altker128> SweetPear: You can create users
without a homedirectory and then create some specific path and use
UNIX permissions to only grant read-only access to a user or group
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2261 [15:35:36] <SweetPear> altker128, Would that work properly
with ssh?
2262 [15:35:41] <altker128> SweetPear: Even simpler, standard UNIX
lets you create users and groups. You can use that permissions
system to enforce read-only access to a group, and put this
sftp_external user in that group
2263 [15:35:58] <altker128> SweetPear: Yes, it should work, you
can create users without homedirectories
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2274 [15:40:04] <meshugga> does debian have something like
launchpad (maybe inofficially) where one can publish a ppa for a
specific package?
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2276 [15:40:40] <zykotic10> meshugga: thankfully... no...
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2285 [15:43:02] <altker128> zykotick9++ :)
2286 [15:43:45] <meshugga> because choice is ... bad?
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2288 [15:44:23] <altker128> It's a cheap hack
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2290 [15:44:40] <queuepop> good day
2291 [15:45:02] <altker128> Anyone know how/why Ubuntu's Xorg
configuration has Composite enabled without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
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2293 [15:45:45] <queuepop> got an issue; i am trying to update my
sources.list with a debian 'pool' source -- not sure how
to add it correctly -- what is the syntax required in order to use a
'pool' mirror?
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2297 [15:46:53] <uhoreg[m]> Debian doesn't have a PPA service
as such, but DDs could publish packages that they build on
people.debian.org, or you could use alioth to host a repository.
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2299 [15:47:30] <SweetPear> altker128, I want to use ssh on a
public server, is there any good guide how to set this up safely
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2304 [15:48:51] <themill> SweetPear: without mentioning any
specific technology, what are you actually trying to achieve?
2305 [15:49:15] <altker128> themill: My guess is some way to make
a remote file available to some user(s) but for them to not have
full access to the system
2306 [15:49:18] <roadrunneratwast> hi. how do i use a graphical
file manager on a file system that i ssh to in the terminal?
2307 [15:49:30] <SweetPear> Indeed
2308 [15:49:58] <roadrunneratwast> or how do i ssh to a filesystem
using Thunar?
2309 [15:50:05] <themill> altker128: putting words into
someone's mouth is precisely what I'm trying to avoid
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2311 [15:50:21] <altker128> SweetPear: I don't know of a good
guide off hand, but you should read the sshd_config options
carefully, I would disallow root-login and potentially use fail2ban
2312 [15:50:50] <altker128> SweetPear: You could also re-locate
the SSH port (from 22 to something far away)
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2314 [15:51:04] <SweetPear> Why actually?
2315 [15:51:04] <altker128> Anyone here using Compiz with
Debian's MATE ?
2316 [15:51:37] <queuepop> any idea altker128 ? using a pool
distro source for sources.list
2317 [15:51:38] <queuepop> ?
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2319 [15:51:46] <altker128> SweetPear: Why what?
2320 [15:51:56] <SweetPear> re-locate the SSH port
2321 [15:52:11] <queuepop> roadrunneratwast: MC? master commander
2322 [15:52:17] <themill> queuepop: wth is a "pool
mirror"?
2323 [15:52:30] <queuepop>
replaced-url
2324 [15:52:33] <roadrunneratwast> ok. i will install that.
2325 [15:52:34] <Andrepila> what do you guys think of honeypots
for a production server? are they useful or will fail2ban succeed?
2326 [15:52:35] <altker128> queuepop: I just use a Debian mirror
(either mit.edu or kernel.org)
2327 [15:53:02] <SweetPear> altker128, Like, What's wrong
with port 22
2328 [15:53:04] <queuepop> ive never use a pool mirror; looks like
its got a compilation of many distro
2329 [15:53:08] <roadrunneratwast> queuepop what is that called on
aptitude?
2330 [15:53:12] <queuepop> 22 is default
2331 [15:53:20] <altker128> SweetPear: It's a well known
port, so people try all the time to remotely login to it
2332 [15:53:27] <queuepop> using a 5 number port gives you room to
move via scans
2333 [15:53:39] <queuepop> roadrunneratwast: apt-cache search
master commander should find it
2334 [15:53:44] <roadrunneratwast> ok
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2336 [15:53:57] <queuepop> command to run it in terminal is mc
2337 [15:54:13] <queuepop> use tab/enter/space -- may want to
check out out the key config first
2338 [15:54:15] <SweetPear> altker128, Yeah that's right
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2340 [15:54:39] <queuepop> altker128:
replaced-url
2341 [15:54:46] <queuepop> is what i want to add to my
sources.list
2342 [15:55:07] <queuepop> am i missing something; heh it
won't aptitude update with the syntax i used :S
2343 [15:55:13] <altker128> queuepop: I dunno what to say, I
don't use pools
2344 [15:55:17] <themill> queuepop: that's not the right
place to start
2345 [15:55:20] <altker128> queuepop: I just select a mirror
2346 [15:55:35] <queuepop> im not starting
2347 [15:55:36] <themill> queuepop: what are you actually trying
to do? What release are you running?
2348 [15:55:49] <queuepop> ive got lenny upgraded to experimental
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2350 [15:55:55] <themill> errr no
2351 [15:55:58] <queuepop> would be nice to use a pool source to
keep my box sound
2352 [15:56:02] <themill> no
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2355 [15:56:16] <altker128> queuepop: What is this obsession with
the use of pools?
2356 [15:56:46] <queuepop> im manually using sources to keep the
box sound; but discovered a pool; wonder if this pool system
actually works
2357 [15:57:11] <queuepop> from what is looks like, it elimiates
the need to use independant sources mirrors
2358 [15:57:14] <themill> no
2359 [15:57:34] <themill> queuepop: you're currently trying
to mix a release that ceased support 4 years ago with a partial
release that is not designed for people to use
2360 [15:57:43] <queuepop> hehe
2361 [15:57:49] <themill> (basically, doom)
2362 [15:57:54] <queuepop> that is not how the box is setup
2363 [15:58:03] <themill> [23:55] <queuepop> ive got lenny
upgraded to experimental
2364 [15:58:22] <pingfloyd> so much failure in one statement
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2366 [15:58:51] <queuepop> hmm you are aware if a box foundation
is setup with the right updates it IS possible to keep a box running
without a depandcies problem from lenny to exp
2367 [15:58:56] <queuepop> i guess not
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2369 [15:59:02] <themill> it is not
2370 [15:59:05] <queuepop> wasnt my question tho
2371 [15:59:18] <queuepop> and a quantum device is impossible as
well
2372 [15:59:19] <queuepop> lol
2373 [15:59:34] <queuepop> im not asking if its possible
2374 [15:59:39] <queuepop> im asking how a pool system works
2375 [16:00:02] <themill> the pool is just a way of storing
packages; apt needs to know about it and you do not
2376 [16:00:19] <queuepop> isee
2377 [16:00:28] <queuepop> never looked into it
2378 [16:00:39] <altker128> Hrm, anyone ever copied gconf settings
from Ubuntu to Debian?
2379 [16:00:50] <themill>
replaced-url
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2382 [16:01:12] <queuepop> PAM is more useful via sshd_config -
but thats just my opinion
2383 [16:01:17] <queuepop> when securing your box
2384 [16:01:33] <queuepop> great
2385 [16:01:35] <queuepop> thanks themill
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2395 [16:07:38] <SweetPear> altker128, Should I enable
PasswordAuthentication?
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2398 [16:08:04] <SweetPear> Does PasswordAuthentication work
incombination with RSA or just the password only
2399 [16:08:08] <altker128> SweetPear: If you don't, then you
have to use something like SSH keys
2400 [16:08:30] <SweetPear> altker128: Keys are more secure right?
2401 [16:09:22] <altker128> SweetPear: I believe so. I don't
think you can copy the key over to another system since it
won't match certain IDs
2402 [16:09:35] <altker128> SweetPear: That is, SSH keys
specifically
2403 [16:09:50] <J|N> PAMela Anderson
2404 [16:09:55] <SweetPear> altker128, I don't get it
2405 [16:10:01] <J|N> use PAM
2406 [16:10:23] <J|N> it supports native express cards authentican
as well
2407 [16:10:31] <J|N> safenet hardware ackwards compatible
2408 [16:11:04] <SweetPear> I have no idea how RSA / SSH keys work
2409 [16:11:20] <SweetPear> No idea about PAM either
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2413 [16:13:03] <Andrepila> why does apt-get install nginx-naxsi
tell me there is no package?
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2415 [16:13:27] <towo`> because the package does not exist?
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2418 [16:13:36] <towo`> what's hard to understand?
2419 [16:13:42] <analog> Andrepila:
2420 [16:13:52] <analog> use http:pkgs.org
2421 [16:14:01] <analog> gdebi packagename.deb
2422 [16:14:08] <analog> auto resolves dependancies
2423 [16:14:11] <Andrepila> but there is:
replaced-url
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2425 [16:14:34] <Andrepila> damn, its for deb 7 ~,~
2426 [16:14:36] <analog> apt-cache update
2427 [16:14:50] <themill> analog: please stop.
2428 [16:14:51] <roadrunneratwast> queuepop: mc isn't a gui.
it's an ncurses program. is that what you were talking about?
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2431 [16:15:10] <b3d0u1n> I have a Debian Squeeze install with
2.6.32-48squeeze20 as the Linux image, and 3.4~bpo60+1 as the Linux
base. I think the Linux base got installed a few days ago when I did
an apt-get upgrade. There's been a couple strange things
happening. Is it normal for the Linux base and image to be
mismatched so drastically like that?
2432 [16:15:13] <analog> themill: leave
2433 [16:15:14] <towo`> and apt-cache update is not a valid
command
2434 [16:15:18] <Andrepila> i'll doit from source then
2435 [16:15:42] <themill> b3d0u1n: that's not squeeze then
2436 [16:15:58] <analog>
replaced-url
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2438 [16:16:00] <b3d0u1n> It's definitely saueeze. it's
squeeze using the backports repository.
2439 [16:16:01] <analog> midnght*
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2441 [16:16:06] <analog> forgot it was called midnight
2442 [16:16:27] <analog> themill: stop as in drop and roll?
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2445 [16:16:36] <analog> or something relevant?
2446 [16:16:37] <themill> analog: stop as in please stop talking
nonsense.
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2449 [16:17:11] <analog> ssh keys will get pwned if your system as
a bug
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2451 [16:17:16] <roadrunneratwast> analog: is there a commander
with a gui rather than a text interface?
2452 [16:18:13] <towo`> roadrunneratwast, doublecmd-gtk
2453 [16:18:15] <themill> b3d0u1n: if you install the packages
from squeeze backports then you can have such a version difference.
Squeeze hasn't been a supported release for quite a while
though
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2455 [16:18:34] <b3d0u1n> themill: Yeah I know. It's a weird
setup but I'm "safe" and upgrading even to wheezy
would cause me headaches.
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2457 [16:19:06] <themill> safe in the sense of running unsupported
software without security support?
2458 [16:19:28] <b3d0u1n> themill: I'm thinking of rolling
the linux base back to 2.6.32 ... do you foresee any problems?
2459 [16:19:47] <themill> That depends entirely on your set-up.
2460 [16:19:50] <roadrunneratwast> thanks towo`
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2462 [16:20:09] <b3d0u1n> what is the apt-get command to do a dry
run ?
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2465 [16:20:49] <themill> b3d0u1n: amazingly, the man page even
lists --dry-run
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2498 [16:34:42] <b3d0u1n> well, will see if it survives reboot
2499 [16:34:43] <b3d0u1n> :)
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say no... I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel
on the inside... Uso negro por fuera porque negro me siento por
dentro... ##replaced-url
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2555 [17:05:31] <bibble_> best method/software to send an alert
when config files like /etc/ssh/sshd_config are altered ?
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2561 [17:12:34] <JyZyXEL> does Ctrl+Alt+Backspace work in jessie?
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2566 [17:15:48] <babilen> JyZyXEL: Only if you enable it
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2585 [17:27:33] <b0ing_> hi
2586 [17:27:49] <b0ing_> is tehre a way to run linux-image-xxx-dbg
?
2587 [17:28:01] <b0ing_> I installed it, but it cant be run
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2590 [17:29:19] <jmcnaught> bibble_: the type of software you are
looking for is an intrusion detection system. there are a few of
them packaged for Debian
2591 [17:29:49] <jmcnaught> bibble_: you should also look at
etckeeper which is also helpful
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2593 [17:29:58] <OerHeks> b0ing_, that .dbg is just the list with
stuff to compile your kernel.
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2595 [17:30:38] <b0ing_> OerHeks: tehre isn't a bin pkg for a
kernel with debug activated?
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2597 [17:31:32] <magnus1> hey. trying to install debian jessie on
a software raid root. i create a raid device and then let debian do
guided partition. it adds a 1 MB "reserved boot area" to
the beginning of raid. Later on when i read the step where grub is
installed, it fails. Regardless of which of the disks i try to
install it to. I tried running install-grub manually, and it states
"this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot
2598 [17:31:34] <magnus1> Partition" and cannot embed the
bootloader. Is this a bug in debian jessie or am I doing something
wrong?
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2601 [17:33:03] <magnus1> according to
replaced-url
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2608 [17:37:06] <_unreal_> hello
replaced-url
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2610 [17:37:28] <_unreal_> I have downloaded this image, I have
formated the SDcard. but I'm having trouble getting the image
to the card
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2612 [17:37:49] <_unreal_>
replaced-url
2613 [17:37:54] <fughetta> hi, can anyone help me out with nvidia
nouveau drivers? it doesn't seem to be loading firmware
correctly
2614 [17:37:58] <_unreal_> that doc is wierd I dont think its a
script
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2618 [17:38:51] <fughetta> here is what happens when i $ modprobe
nouveau'
2619 [17:39:08] <fughetta> and $ dmesg:
replaced-url
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2657 [17:59:01] <_unreal> ok time to test my debian image, I think
I got it
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2670 [18:05:27] <nias> I cannot use bluetooth. When I turn it on
it still shows as off.
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2686 [18:12:38] <dTal> How does one flush the DNS cache on Jessie?
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2689 [18:14:07] <somiaj> dTal: are you sure it is the cache on
your machine and not the cache of your name server?
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2692 [18:14:31] <dTal> Yes, because I changed the server
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2695 [18:15:02] <somiaj> What is using this cache (I don't
think jessie has a cache, but I think webbrowsers do cache)
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2700 [18:15:28] <sonion> lots of stuff use cache .. tar etc
2701 [18:15:54] <dTal> I'm using Iceweasel
2702 [18:15:58] <somiaj> it could also be the nameserver update
hasn't propagated, that can take some time. I perosnally use
the /etc/hosts ot override ip address so I can test things while I
wait for the new stuff to propagate
2703 [18:16:02] <somiaj> sonion: I dont' think tar uses an ip
cache.
2704 [18:16:25] <somiaj> dTal: iceweasel? Debian doesn't
provide icewasel anymore, do you mean firefox? It may have a way to
reset it.
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2706 [18:17:09] <somiaj> dTal:
replaced-url
2707 [18:17:20] <sonion> somiaj: got me there :)
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2710 [18:18:47] <dTal> hmm, you were right it was internal to
Iceweasel
2711 [18:19:04] <dTal> although I didn't do anything, just
waited for the cache to expire :p
2712 [18:19:31] <somiaj> yea firefox caches dns so it doesn't
have to run a lookup every time, that page shows how you can change
the timeout it takes.
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2715 [18:19:46] <sonion> iceweasel is firefox? try
seamonkey/icecape?
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2717 [18:19:55] <dTal> While we're at it, is there a way of
marking "this network's DNS is totally broken, use
Google's" for a particular SSID?
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2721 [18:20:46] <somiaj> sonion: iceweasel use to be a rebranding
of firefox, but debian now can distribute firefoxes trademarks again
so debian doesn't provide iceweasel
2722 [18:20:56] <dTal> TalkTalk is frankly ridiculous, perfectly
valid domains don't resolve and instead point to a stupid error
page - which then gets cached of course
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2724 [18:21:12] <somiaj> sonion: if dTal is really useinc
iceweasel they need to upgrade to the current esr in firefox from
the debian repos, else they have a unsecure browser.
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2727 [18:21:55] <somiaj> dTal: afaik, there is no easy way to do
that or to look up different dns by ip. Just use a dns that works is
my best suggestion
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2731 [18:22:15] <dTal> I really am using Iceweasel. I'm on
Jessie but I can't remember when I last upgraded...
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2733 [18:22:34] <somiaj> dTal: upgrade to firefox, it should be in
the security repos and require a dist-upgrade.
2734 [18:22:45] <th0r> dTal, are you using network manager?
2735 [18:23:23] <somiaj> dTal: note iceweasel is still a dummy
transtional package and there is a link from iceweasel to firefox so
the upgrade is as smooth as possible, but you should upgrade so you
are running the current firefox esr, and not the disconcuned esr the
last iceweasel was bassed off of.
2736 [18:23:33] <dTal> th0r: yes - it offers the option to add
additional DNS servers but the problem is that TalkTalk's
doesn't just give up, it actually returns the wrong IP to show
its stupid page
2737 [18:23:34] <th0r> dTal, (referencing your dns address
question)
2738 [18:23:58] <bibble_> thanks jmcnaught . will check out
etckeeper
2739 [18:24:13] <th0r> dTal, did you set nm to just fetch the ip
addresses, and nothing else? It is a config option...right after
dhcp in the drop down
2740 [18:25:14] <dTal> I'm not sure what you mean
2741 [18:25:51] <dTal> either by "just fetch the ip
addresses" or "the drop down"
2742 [18:25:52] <th0r> dTal, right click on the notification icon
and choose Edit connections. Choose the connnection, then the ipV4
tab
2743 [18:26:06] <dTal> yes
2744 [18:26:57] <th0r> where it says dhcp...click on that and a
drop down menu appears. The second choice is to fetch addresses
only...I do believe that will use the dns addresses you provide and
not the onese sent by the service
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2747 [18:27:25] <dTal> oh is THAT what's for
2748 [18:27:27] <th0r> dTal, notice that the line below changes
from Additional DNS to just DNS
2749 [18:27:41] <dTal> brilliant
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2751 [18:27:45] <dTal> thank you th0r
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2753 [18:27:56] <th0r> dTal, I think that will solve your problem.
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2756 [18:28:33] <dTal> "adresses only" seems like a
weird thing to call it, I mean DNS servers have addresses too
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2758 [18:29:01] <th0r> dTal, hey....I am not in a decision making
position here...I jujst play the game
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2760 [18:29:49] <dTal> no indeed, thanks for the tip
2761 [18:30:17] <th0r> dTal, good luck
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2824 [19:03:54] <_unreal> YES!!!! finally got debian working on my
cubox
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2826 [19:04:02] <Phanes> are there enterprise certs for debian
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2831 [19:07:01] <babilen> Phanes: LPI would be the usual suspect
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2834 [19:08:13] <Phanes> so you mean 'no' or is LPI
debian-specific?
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2836 [19:09:14] <babilen> I can't rule out that there
isn't one, so I'm not saying 'no'
2837 [19:09:29] <babilen> And LPI isn't Debian specific
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2847 [19:16:10] <deb13> Okay so I *think?* I figured out what was
wrong with the problem I was having last night...?
2848 [19:16:30] <deb13> (Gonna thought-dump, and people can judge
if these thoughts make sense.)
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2850 [19:17:19] <deb13> My wireless device is a "Qualcomm
Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)"
2851 [19:17:46] <_unreal> ok so I just got debian wheezy loaded,
doing an update/upgrade,,,,, after that I'll do the distro
upgrade
2852 [19:17:49] <deb13> which according to here [
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2856 [19:19:14] <deb13> The Debian Live Stable images have kernel
3.5 (I think? Maybe 3.6. 3.*, at least.) -- so wouldn't be able
to handle it, even if I download the +firmware LiveCD.
2857 [19:19:42] <deb13> But in Debian Testing, the kernel is at
4.5 [
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2859 [19:20:11] <babilen> judd: kernels
2860 [19:20:11] <deb13> So if I download the Weekly Live Builds [
replaced-url
2861 [19:20:11] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.7.0-rc7-686 (4.7~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686
(4.7.2-1+s1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); jessie-backports:
4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-2)
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2863 [19:20:20] <babilen> dpkg: bdo kernel
2864 [19:20:20] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
2865 [19:20:52] <babilen> deb13: Don't you have ethernet? You
can grab a backported kernel ^^^ and install it after the initial
install.
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2867 [19:21:25] <babilen> Just install from a CD1/DVD1 image or
hook up via ethernet, then grab the backported kernel, install it
and you should be good.
2868 [19:21:37] <babilen> Tracking testing comes with its very own
set of problems
2869 [19:21:57] <babilen>
replaced-url
2870 [19:22:08] <deb13> I don't have ethernet. At school,
which just does wireless. For... some reason. :P
2871 [19:22:30] <babilen> You can, naturally, also install
testing. I'd recommend to configure it with unstable in its
sources.list and the default release set to 'testing'
however as in
2872 [19:22:33] <babilen> dpkg: tum
2873 [19:22:33] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one
set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable
install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as
usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release:
set Preferences->Distribution.
2874 [19:23:12] <surfist> speaking of synaptic... anyone know
libinput? since synaptic is now toast in newer X
2875 [19:23:17] <babilen> deb13: That's incredibly pesky.
Well, you can install stable from CD1/DVD1 and then copy the
packages you need (backported kernel and firmware from
jessie-backports) over and install it manually.
2876 [19:23:46] <babilen> deb13: That's obviously a lot more
work than it should be ;)
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2881 [19:25:47] <cyphix> Does anyone encounter unexpected crashes
with libreoffice 4.3.3? A friend of mine experiment crashes quite
often, and it's ruining its LO experience.
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2885 [19:27:57] <deb13> For the sake of "would this even work
or would I run into other problems" (for example, the touchpad
also didn't work. I just ran into trouble poking at that
because can't install, e.g., evtest) -- would downloading and
trying the Weekly Live Builds show whether or not doing the
much-more-work of using the backported kernel would work?
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2889 [19:29:05] <babilen> deb13: It would
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2891 [19:29:29] <babilen> Give it a try .. please note that
I'm not sure about the status of the live builds and they are
definitely not the recommended way to install Debian
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2901 [19:32:46] <surfist> x.org has migrated away from synaptics
and toward libinput and it's a mess
2902 [19:33:38] <surfist> ooOOOoOhh fun idea....
2903 [19:33:40] <zinx> X.org's input changes in general have
been a huge mess
2904 [19:33:45] <surfist> yeap
2905 [19:33:48] <surfist> royal pain
2906 [19:34:03] <surfist> 2 finger scrolling briefly worked
2907 [19:34:07] <surfist> then vanished
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2909 [19:34:19] <surfist> edge scrolling is toast forever looks
like
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2913 [19:35:35] <surfist> have scoured the net for solutions
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2915 [19:35:40] <surfist> nothing
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2919 [19:39:28] <deb13> Cool. Makes sense. Um, what packages would
be the ones I would download/where would I find them? Firmware-linux
from
replaced-url
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2925 [19:40:37] <deb13> (Also -- I'd put them on another USB
and plug it in and install it off of that, right? I can't do
another partition of the same USB stick because Windows.)
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2928 [19:41:44] <babilen> firmware-atheros
2929 [19:42:26] <babilen> linux-image-amd64 (+dependencies)
2930 [19:43:01] <babilen> Which cpu chipset does your box use?
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2936 [19:47:28] <deb13> x86_64, yeah.
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2962 [19:56:32] <afa32> hello. i have 2 disks in raid 1. if one of
the disks fail, what would i need to do?
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2974 [19:59:39] <Time-Warp> afa32: dont even think about the
consequences hot swap that bad boy
2975 [19:59:45] <Time-Warp> lol
2976 [19:59:46] * init7 BRB BEER TIME !!
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2980 [20:02:03] <afa32> Time-Warp: why you do this :(
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2999 [20:07:29] <deb13> Huh. That... was still kernel 3.16...
3000 [20:07:38] <jasabella> why does elasticsearch depend on
default-jre and not default-jre-headless?
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3004 [20:08:12] <_unreal> ouch, this thing is so slow
3005 [20:08:16] <deb13> did I misunderstand what Weekly Live
Builds were? (I've searched a bit, but I couldn't find any
writing about them...)
3006 [20:08:30] <_unreal> installing lxde on my cubox running
debian wheezy, thats running off an SD card
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3008 [20:08:45] <_unreal> 600megs of dead slow
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3010 [20:09:48] <deb13> OH WAIT that is from 2015, and I am Very
Good at observational skills...
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3013 [20:10:40] <deb13> ... why are the "Weekly Live
Build" not at all having been built recently...?
3014 [20:11:53] <missmbob> i used the latest a couple of days ago
and i couldnt boot after install. probably because it's broken
as shit
3015 [20:12:14] <missmbob> you're supposed to install using
stable iso and then dist-upgrade if you want testing
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3017 [20:13:04] <babilen> deb13: live builds, no
3018 [20:13:21] <missmbob> oh live? i missed that bit.
3019 [20:13:35] <missmbob> deb13: about that time the lead
developer of live left debian
3020 [20:13:41] <missmbob> not much has been done
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3026 [20:15:45] <random_numbers> Assuming FD-encryption, is there
any reason to pick strong user passwords rather than just setting
'wheel' and 'sudoers' to be used?
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3028 [20:16:17] <missmbob> what does encryption have to do with
someone getting into yourself while it's powered on?
3029 [20:16:26] <missmbob> your system*
3030 [20:17:00] <random_numbers> I was looking at it more from a
remote-login scenario like a compromised database or something
suchlike.
3031 [20:17:13] <deb13> Yeah, my problem is that my wireless only
works with kernel 4.4+ ... and I don't have ethernet...
3032 [20:17:16] <missmbob> yeah. there's irrelevent to disk
encryption
3033 [20:17:18] <random_numbers> If it's running as its own
user and not allowed to 'su', then it'd be contained,
right?
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3035 [20:17:40] <random_numbers> I'm assuming anyone with
physical access already went rubberhose anyway.
3036 [20:17:44] <missmbob> deb13: try the firmware iso
3037 [20:17:47] <missmbob> !firmware iso
3038 [20:17:47] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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3066 [20:27:49] <deb13> missmbob: I tried that -- the problem is
that the kernel in that is 3.16, and "Kernel 4.3 doesn't
have support for QCA9377"
3067 [20:27:54] <deb13> (From here:
replaced-url
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3074 [20:30:44] <missmbob> deb13: okay. download these two deb
packages to a different usb with wget
replaced-url
3075 [20:31:06] <missmbob> deb13: then install using the regular
3.16 kernel. then dpkg -i foo.deb for those two packages. reboot
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3079 [20:32:04] <deb13> Yeah, that was babilen 's suggestion
above. I've been doing that -- but do I need to predownload and
install all the dependencies, too?
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3081 [20:32:49] <missmbob> deb13: i dont see any listed
that's not default
3082 [20:33:12] <deb13> But do I need the backported versions of
those, is my question.
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3085 [20:33:43] <deb13> Would they work with the old versions? I
wouldn't expect definitely yes...
3086 [20:33:46] <missmbob> deb13: what i gave you was the
backported
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3088 [20:34:07] <missmbob> yes
3089 [20:34:27] <deb13> Yeah -- but do I need the backported
version of, e.g. initramfs and all that...?
3090 [20:34:31] <deb13> OH.
3091 [20:34:32] <deb13> WAIT.
3092 [20:34:40] <alias_neo> I'm trying to build dnscrypt for
mip64 but having trouble doing so and the slow speed is making it
harder for me to resolve in a mips64 vm. Which version of debian x86
should I use to cross compile from? I'm targetting Wheezy
mips64
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3094 [20:35:02] * deb13 looks at the URL of 'replaced-url
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3097 [20:35:37] <missmbob> deb13: because there is no newer one in
backports. because you dont need it
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3099 [20:36:27] <jim> alias_neo, do you mean the build succeeded
or failed?
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3101 [20:36:52] <meeto> hey ppl
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3104 [20:37:40] <deb13> OKAY.
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3106 [20:38:04] <deb13> But I DO need the backported version of
"linux-base", because there IS a newer version in
backports...
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3108 [20:38:15] <meeto> does anyone have experience of debian in a
mac mini ?
3109 [20:38:42] <jim> what cpu does a mac mini have?
3110 [20:38:42] <missmbob> meeto:
replaced-url
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3112 [20:38:51] <alias_neo> jim: my build is failing, even though
I built libsodium (the dep) with --enable-static, dnscrypt keeps
trying to use libsodium.so (even though i configured it also with
--enable-static)
3113 [20:38:58] <meeto> i didn't decided yet
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3116 [20:39:23] <meeto> may an i5 on 2.6 ir i5 on 1.45
3117 [20:39:37] <alias_neo> jim: so I was hoping to get an x86
machine up so i can trial and error it much faster than in the slow
mips64 vm
3118 [20:39:39] <durasara> i need some assistance with video
drivers on an intel d2500 embedded graphics. I could only get KDE to
work correctly, and the video driver it automatically installed was
a vmware driver.
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3120 [20:40:04] <jim> alias_neo, are either or both of the
packages available in the debian archive?
3121 [20:40:09] <deb13> Yay!
3122 [20:40:15] <mtn> durasara: if you install in vmware, you will
be using vmware drivers
3123 [20:40:16] <deb13> Okay let's try this again...
3124 [20:40:27] <alias_neo> jim: sadly neither it appears for
wheezy mips64
3125 [20:40:40] <mtn> durasara: I think vmware has their own
channel and website for additional support
3126 [20:40:46] <ll1lL1lL> Hi all. I am trying to make a bootable
thumb drive from debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso, but
I'm having trouble. I used dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/thumbdrive
bs=4M, but while the command is succesful the drive cannot be booted
to.
3127 [20:40:57] <durasara> mtn, I did not install in vmware. I
installed bare debian 8.
3128 [20:41:04] <ll1lL1lL> the sha256sum is correct so the iso is
fine
3129 [20:41:04] <durasara> mtn, this is not a vm.
3130 [20:41:08] <mtn> durasara: then you won't have a vmware
driver
3131 [20:41:13] <ll1lL1lL> Any ideas?
3132 [20:41:17] <missmbob> ll1lL1lL: did you not sync?
3133 [20:41:21] <ll1lL1lL> I did
3134 [20:41:21] <alias_neo> jim: I'm having no trouble
building libsodium, but I can seem to get dnscrypt to statically
link libsodium even though the script (official) i'm running is
specifically for a statically linked build
3135 [20:41:36] <mtn> durasara: install inxi and the do: Please
type "inxi -Gx" (without the " marks) in a terminal
and paste the results to dpaste.com and give us the link.
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3137 [20:41:42] <Guest84378> Il1lL1lL: sure that your BIOS launch
the usb?
3138 [20:41:51] <jim> why not dynamically link?
3139 [20:41:52] <ll1lL1lL> Yeah, I'm sure
3140 [20:41:53] <babilen> ll1lL1lL: What's the exact command
you used?
3141 [20:42:22] <Guest84378> maybe you've UEFI system ..
3142 [20:42:31] <missmbob> doesnt matter. that iso supports uefi
3143 [20:42:33] <ll1lL1lL> It is UEFI
3144 [20:42:47] <alias_neo> jim: it'll be run on a mip64 edge
router, I'm _told_ it's to be dynamically linked
3145 [20:42:57] <alias_neo> jim: statically*
3146 [20:43:03] <ll1lL1lL> babilen the dd command stated above as
sudo with ;sync at the end
3147 [20:43:08] <ll1lL1lL> or && sync rather
3148 [20:43:19] <missmbob> ll1lL1lL: that's not really
helpful. he wants to know if you did /dev/sdx or /dev/sdx1
3149 [20:43:33] <durasara> mtn,
replaced-url
3150 [20:43:34] <missmbob> thus *exact* command request
3151 [20:43:38] <jim> alias_neo, you mean for security reasons?
3152 [20:43:40] <ll1lL1lL> Ok. It was /dev/sdd
3153 [20:43:57] <alias_neo> jim: I have no idea why, but that
seems reasonable
3154 [20:44:03] <deb13> Oh, wait. Problem, you said
"reboot" -- is there some way to, like, still do this off
of a LiveCD? I'd prefer to make sure it works before installing
it to anything? (Especially since the touchpad also wasn't
work, which I'll poke at later...)
3155 [20:44:05] <mtn> durasara: it does not say anything about a
vmware driver. you have intel
3156 [20:44:10] <ll1lL1lL> I will look in my terminal history for
the exact command to copy paste
3157 [20:44:23] <missmbob> deb13: no
3158 [20:44:27] <ll1lL1lL> sudo dd
if=/mnt/RAID1/isos/debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso
of=/dev/sdd bs=4M
3159 [20:44:45] <mtn> durasara: can't you get into the
desktop?
3160 [20:44:50] <deb13> ll1lL1lL: Is your BIOS configured to only
do trusted boot?
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3162 [20:44:59] <gordonjcp> evening
3163 [20:45:08] <jim> alias_neo, it does seem reasonable, and,
I'm curious whether dynamic linking would work... do you have a
build log? I'm just guessing here
3164 [20:45:11] <ll1lL1lL> deb13: Nope, and I have been able to
boot to other live OSes
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3166 [20:45:33] <mtn> durasara: get into the desktop and then run
the command again.
3167 [20:45:36] <alias_neo> jim: It's building currently, but
I'd hate to stop it since it's been going a while already
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3169 [20:46:02] <jim> yeah, don't stop it just to test a whim
3170 [20:46:03] <gordonjcp> roughly how big would a typical
install for Debian Jessie server be, straight out of the box?
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3173 [20:46:25] <alias_neo> jim: what I can remember of the last
error was that it was specifcally looking for the libsodium.so
shared object in /usr/local/lib/ but I only have the static .a and
.la in there.
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3175 [20:46:58] <alias_neo> even though the LDFLAGS in the script
are specifyinh static
3176 [20:47:25] <durasara> mtn, yes, but
replaced-url
3177 [20:47:39] <missmbob> gordonjcp: minimal without desktop
would be around 2G plus whatever you install
3178 [20:47:43] <gordonjcp> missmbob: hm
3179 [20:47:47] <jim> alias_neo, so, file not found?
3180 [20:47:50] <gordonjcp> missmbob: that seems like a lot
3181 [20:47:55] <alias_neo> jim: yep
3182 [20:47:57] <missmbob> gordonjcp: too bad.
3183 [20:48:02] <ll1lL1lL> No ideas anyone? Places to look, things
to try? :-)
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3186 [20:48:08] <gordonjcp> missmbob: I've got a bunch of
machines with 2GB flash drives, that I'd like to repurpose
3187 [20:48:18] <gordonjcp> missmbob: is there a minimal install
of Debian?
3188 [20:48:25] <durasara> mtn, and while it says this, when I
open steam, it says that it is a vmware graphics media accellerator
3189 [20:48:25] <missmbob> gordonjcp: it could work with 2.
replaced-url
3190 [20:48:32] <alias_neo> jim: which is reasonable, since I
didn't build the so, i'd expect it not to be there. I just
don't know why it's not looking for the correct file.
3191 [20:49:10] <Guest84378> hi all, i can't change
resolution/brightness on my debian system. "display" in
system settings gives "impossible to obtain info from
display".. any idea?
3192 [20:49:11] <mtn> durasara: the gma500 is an intel driver.
east to see using google ;)
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3194 [20:49:24] <Guest84378> that was working one or 2 week ago
3195 [20:49:26] <gordonjcp> missmbob: okay, I'll need to look
at something a bit less heavyweight :-)
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3197 [20:49:32] <gordonjcp> missmbob: thanks
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3199 [20:50:02] <missmbob> Guest84378: using stretch/testing?
3200 [20:51:20] <jim> alias_neo, what command do you run to do the
entire build? make? and, you use an option of ./configure when
building the lib, to specify static?
3201 [20:51:34] <Guest84378> missmbob: ehm, what do you mean?
3202 [20:51:40] <alias_neo> jim: ./configure --enable-static
--disable-shared
3203 [20:51:45] <alias_neo> jim: make -j3
3204 [20:52:06] <alias_neo> jim: Is there something I can look out
for during the configure stage to ensure it's attempting a
static build?
3205 [20:52:14] <jim> ok, and you do make clean between build
attempts?
3206 [20:52:15] <mtn> durasara: what problem are you having with
that driver? what is your real problem?
3207 [20:52:33] <alias_neo> jim: I did this time
3208 [20:52:53] <jim> ok... and the lib build succeeds?
3209 [20:53:09] <alias_neo> jim: Lib build succeeeds, then I make
install it
3210 [20:53:29] <alias_neo> now I'm trying with trial and
error to build the dnscrypt lib
3211 [20:54:00] <alias_neo> when i say lib build succeeded I mean
the libdosium library (dep of dnscrypt)
3212 [20:54:07] <alias_neo> libsodium*
3213 [20:54:13] <jim> ok... build the lib again, and this time
--enable-static and --enable-shared (so it builds both)...
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3216 [20:54:53] <alias_neo> jim: Ok. I was in that position
earlier and it complainied that I was trying to link a dynamic lib
3217 [20:55:25] <alias_neo> jim: I will try that again though
after cleaning but it may be a while, these builds are taking ~40
minutes
3218 [20:55:25] <jim> then, when you run the make on the app, run
it like this: make -j3 2>&1 | tee buildlog
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3220 [20:55:43] <jim> understood
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3223 [20:56:24] <alias_neo> jim: Ok, build just failed with this:
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3225 [20:56:45] <alias_neo> jim: warning: Using
'getaddrinfo' in statically linked appli│[info] Using
makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2.
3226 [20:56:48] <alias_neo> cations requires at runtime the shared
libraries from the glibc version used for linking
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3228 [20:57:22] <alias_neo> sorry ignore the bit after the pipe on
the first line, I copyied from a split terminal window
3229 [20:57:27] <_unreal> trying to get a headless install to have
a gui
3230 [20:57:31] <alias_neo> damn my typing today
3231 [20:57:33] <alias_neo> copied*
3232 [20:57:49] <jim> once the app build exits, you'll have a
file buildlog, and you can: cat buildlog | nc termbin.com 9999
3233 [20:57:58] <_unreal> I have wheezy installed, I just did
updates upgrades etc.... I just installed lxde
3234 [20:58:12] <_unreal> but I dont get a startx it only says
startlxde and when I run the command it does nothing
3235 [20:58:23] <_unreal> am I missing something maybe?
3236 [20:58:57] <jim> you'll have anything make outputed to
stderr (such as some error message) in buildlog too, so anyone who
wants to can see it
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3238 [20:59:53] <alias_neo> jim: no problem, I'm quite
familiar with those redirects
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3242 [21:00:47] <jim> that's good to know
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3244 [21:01:48] <alias_neo> jim: ok i'll leave that building
while I go get my wife from the train station, configure+build
should take about an hour and i'll be back in about 2
3245 [21:03:06] <mtn> _unreal: un: how about installing a dm, such
as gdm?
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3251 [21:04:44] <jim> alias_neo, that "warning: Using
'getaddrinfo' ..." is just a warning... the actual
error was something else, and may have occured much earlier in the
build
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3254 [21:05:24] <jim> alias_neo, which makes a buildlog a nice
thing to have
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3257 [21:06:42] <alias_neo> jim: yes apologies, I clearly missed
the important part, the error is; In function
`_Unwind_Find_FDE': │[ ok ] Setting kernel variables ...done.
3258 [21:06:49] <alias_neo> (.text+0x23ac): undefined reference to
`dl_iterate_phdr'
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3260 [21:06:58] <alias_neo> (again please ignore afterthe pipe)
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3265 [21:08:07] <_unreal> gdm?
3266 [21:08:15] <_unreal> hum
3267 [21:08:20] <_unreal> I wonder if one is even installed
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3270 [21:09:31] <_unreal> naturally I just started the install of
xfce
3271 [21:09:39] <_unreal> I"ll just hurry up and wait
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3279 [21:15:16] <jim> alias_neo|AFK, you would need to find out
where `dl_iterate_phdr' is defined... maybe in a lib you
don't have? or maybe in one of the libs it's trying to
link statically to
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3284 [21:16:47] <jim> oh, and since you're building two libs,
are you building the other with enable-shared (or disable)?
3285 [21:16:50] <nick108> Hi, I'm trying to follow
replaced-url
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3288 [21:17:50] <jim> nick108, they probably mean the top level of
the source dir
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3291 [21:19:38] <nick108> jim, so source dir refers to the
original sources from which I built Icecast?
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3298 [21:21:31] <nick108> just tried to run
"dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc" also in that dir, but I get
the same error
replaced-url
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3313 [21:30:22] <Wotac> can someone tell me the repos in
sources.list if i want to have sid? the internet search results are
unclear, something about security updates not provided or something
3314 [21:30:31] <missmbob> #debian-next
3315 [21:30:37] <missmbob> !debian-next
3316 [21:30:37] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3318 [21:31:17] <missmbob> Wotac: ask those guys ^
3319 [21:31:24] <awal1> Wotac, not a good idea at all if your plan
is mix jessie & sid
3320 [21:31:44] <missmbob> or if you even have to ask how. but
that's another story. they'll tell you what you need to
know
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3322 [21:34:04] <_unreal> you where right it was missing gdm
3323 [21:34:08] <Wotac> what do you mean if i need to ask
3324 [21:34:14] <_unreal> just started installing gdm3
3325 [21:34:27] <missmbob> Wotac: generally you need to know
debian really well to run sid.
3326 [21:34:45] <missmbob> Wotac: but yeah...talk to them
3327 [21:35:06] <_unreal> sigh mtn left
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3333 [21:37:43] <_unreal> interesting it said that lightdm was
installed but didnt seem to be working when I boot the computer it
never gives me video
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3344 [21:44:06] <francine> Is my AMD Radeon HD 8550G (APU) and my
AMD R9 M275X supported on Debian? Can I use both?
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3357 [21:51:55] <elliot007> Hey gnome-terminal is not opening
3358 [21:52:02] <elliot007> when I tried using xterm got this
3359 [21:52:03] <elliot007>
replaced-url
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3370 [21:55:46] <awal1> elliot007, jessie?
3371 [21:56:05] <elliot007> yeah
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3379 [21:57:05] <missmbob> elliot007: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure
locales
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3384 [21:58:53] <elliot007> missmbob: Yeah working now thanks
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3405 [22:07:09] <tom99> is "stable" exactly
interchangeable for "jesse" inside of
/etc/apt/sources.list?
3406 [22:07:29] <jasabella> tom99: it is until the next stable
release comes out
3407 [22:07:32] <tom99> and "oldstable" synonymous with
"wheezy"?
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3409 [22:07:35] <tom99> ah ok
3410 [22:07:37] <jasabella> tom99: it is until the next stable
release comes out
3411 [22:07:52] <tom99> what happens if I put
'experimental' in, is that recognize?
3412 [22:07:55] <missmbob> tom99: you should always use names,
such was jessie, and not "stable/testing/sid"
3413 [22:07:56] <tom99> someone told me that's a real thing
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3416 [22:08:07] <missmbob> tom99: you get experimental. yes
it's real
3417 [22:08:15] <jasabella> so you can track a specific release
with its name, or a specific branch
3418 [22:08:16] <missmbob> tom99: not even close to supported here
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3420 [22:08:28] <jasabella> hmmm i track the testing branch
3421 [22:08:37] <missmbob> you shouldnt
3422 [22:08:49] <tom99> why shouldn't I use the synonyms
stable/testing/sid?
3423 [22:09:20] <jmcnaught> tom99: because when stretch becomes
the new stable you don't want to have a surprise partial
upgrade when you're just trying to apply security updates
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3428 [22:10:12] <jasabella> i only do it with my laptop not my
server :D
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3432 [22:11:41] <jasabella> shouldnt that advice apply to stable
only though? testing branch always has moving parts, experimental is
even more fluid?
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3434 [22:12:00] <missmbob> no. when stretch becomes stable,
testing will get flooded with sid packages that were frozen
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3436 [22:12:07] <missmbob> it'll break a lot usually
3437 [22:12:46] <tom99> jmcnaught: thanks that makes sense. If I
recall it's something like jessie/updates is security and
jessie-updates is regular non security updates
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3445 [22:13:35] <jmcnaught> tom99: you should read the
debian-reference and debian-handbook to get a handle on Debian
fundamentals. Both are available as packages, or at
replaced-url
3446 [22:13:52] <jmcnaught> tom99: here it's generally
expected that you've read everything you can on a topic before
you ask questions
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3448 [22:15:20] <tom99> jmcnaught: fair enough, I guess just
shooting blindly works better in the emulator channel i was in
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3450 [22:15:35] <tom99> since they don't have any docs I have
no alternative but to ask dumb questions in the chat over there
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3459 [22:21:55] <catbeard> so why won't mumble-server start
on 8.5 x86_64
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3461 [22:22:07] <catbeard> i have to manually type murmurd to get
it to start
3462 [22:22:25] <jim> hi, noticed that while installing some
firmware packages made the iwlwifi I have work, it's flaky, and
looking at a recent dmesg output, I notice it tried and failed to
load some firmware files... take a look at:
replaced-url
3463 [22:22:54] <jim> any debian packages have these?
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3466 [22:24:09] <cruncher> jim, if you want more people to look at
it just use
replaced-url
3467 [22:24:37] <jmcnaught> jim: there's a newer version of
firmware-iwlwifi in backports, have you tried that?
3468 [22:24:56] <jmcnaught> also i think termbin.com is fine. the
ones that suck have ads or require javascript (like pastebin.com)
3469 [22:25:15] <jim> I think so... let me check (I think I was
told to install that)
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3472 [22:26:46] <jim> oh, I forgot to say I upgraded it to stretch
in order to get the x server working with the skylake video (which
it does)
3473 [22:26:57] <jim> does stretch have backports?
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3475 [22:27:07] <missmbob> jim no
3476 [22:27:13] <jmcnaught> jim: stretch has unstable
3477 [22:27:36] <missmbob> you upgraded the whole machine when you
just needed a jessie-backports kernel?
3478 [22:27:37] <jim> so do I ssb or install binary sid packages?
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3481 [22:28:47] <jmcnaught> yeah for lots of people they just need
newer kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel from backports for skylake
video support on jessie
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3483 [22:28:51] <jim> missmbob, it was more than that, it was
xserver-xorg-core from stretch that I needed (well according to
discussion that took place here0
3484 [22:28:53] <jim> )
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3486 [22:29:17] <jim> I could try reinstalling
3487 [22:29:41] <missmbob> jim sid and stretch has the same
version of firmware-iwlwifi. you should ask the stretch people.
#debian-next on OFTC
3488 [22:29:56] <jim> oh ok
3489 [22:29:57] <jmcnaught> !stretch/unstable mix
3490 [22:29:57] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"stretch";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security stretch lines and change one
set to sid, then apt-get update. apt-get -t sid install foo; to
install foo from sid rather than stretch as usual. WARNING to
SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set
Preferences->Distribution. See <jum caveat> and use this
setup to track <stretch> after its release.
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3502 [22:35:41] <jim> cruncher, incidently, I like/use termbin
because it's easy and quick to type when I want to pastebin the
output of a command. (aka, it has an api that allows that)... does
paste.debian.net also have that?
3503 [22:35:59] <missmbob> yes
3504 [22:36:04] <cruncher> jim, its ok, i didnt say you cant :)
just that MORE people would click it ;-)
3505 [22:36:06] <missmbob> pastebinit uses paste.debian.net by
default
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3508 [22:36:44] <jim> ok, noted
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3519 [22:44:13] <WormFood> I have 2 files, that are incomplete.
The missing parts are zero filled. Is there some utility in debian
that would allow me to merge those 2 files into one? I can do it,
but no point in reinventing the wheel, as I'm sure I'm not
the first one to need this solution.
3520 [22:45:21] <jmcnaught> well there's cat
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3522 [22:46:45] <jasabell1> how do you tell the difference between
zero-filled and an actual zero in the file?
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3526 [22:47:50] <zinx> jasabell1: the file size will be smaller...
other than that, i'm not sure you can.. maybe by clearing a
block-aligned zero'd area, and seeing if the on-disk size
changes
3527 [22:47:57] <WormFood> jasabell1, well, if it's a zero in
both files, then it's a zero
3528 [22:48:05] <WormFood> the file sizes are the same
3529 [22:48:17] <zinx> on-disk size :x
3530 [22:48:27] <WormFood> if byte 12345 is 00 in both files, then
it's a zero.
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3532 [22:48:44] <zinx> but if block 30 is zeros, it could be
zeros, or it might not be stored on disk at all (sparse file)
3533 [22:48:50] <mete> what's the easiest way to compare two
decimal numbers in bash without bc/awk or another external program?
3534 [22:48:58] <zinx> it's still read as zeros in either
case.
3535 [22:49:05] <WormFood> how it's stored on disk is moot
(however, it should be sparse)
3536 [22:49:26] <zinx> there are different parts that are zero
filled, tehn?
3537 [22:49:32] <WormFood> Right.
3538 [22:49:49] <zinx> not sure there's anything purpose made
for that
3539 [22:49:50] <jasabell1> by decimal do you mean real or
integers only?
3540 [22:49:55] <WormFood> imagine a file recovered from a bad
hard drive, with the bad sectors zero filled.
3541 [22:50:05] <jasabell1> (decimal as in base10)
3542 [22:50:13] <zinx> if you had a mapping of bad blocks to file
blocks, that would be ideal...
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3544 [22:50:51] <zinx> WormFood: vbindiff may give you what you
want, but i don't know what you want
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3546 [22:51:23] <zinx> WormFood: if you want it to automatically
merge them to one file.. that's not gonna do it
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3549 [22:52:24] <WormFood> I think exporting to xxd, while it may
be painfully slow, I think with the -a option, it might do the
trick.
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3551 [22:54:11] <zinx> good luck w/ that
3552 [22:54:17] <zinx> i would just write a simple program myself
:x
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3584 [23:04:08] <tom99> is this the correct syntax for backports?
3585 [23:04:11] <tom99> deb
replaced-url
3586 [23:04:45] <tacocat> yes
3587 [23:05:17] <tom99> oh ok. i'm getting confused at all
the different debian servers. httpredir.debian.org, us.debian.org,
ftp.debian.org
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3589 [23:05:26] <tom99> thx
3590 [23:05:32] <tacocat> those are different mirrors you can use
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3592 [23:05:35] <WormFood> zinx, just an OR of the data would do
the trick.
3593 [23:05:58] <jenrexxer> LOL: "Don't want your
neighborhood enriched by these guys? Then you're a racist. You
should be locked up for your hate."
replaced-url
3594 [23:06:01] <jenrexxer> Thanks Jews!
3595 [23:06:04] <WormFood> now...how to logically OR two
files...anyone have any ideas?
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3598 [23:07:24] <zinx> WormFood: bad idea.
replaced-url
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3604 [23:08:45] <jmcnaught> tom99: are you using wheezy?
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3606 [23:09:11] <tom99> mcnaught: a frankendebian. I'm not
sure if I want to install jessie on my hard drive or virtual machine
yet
3607 [23:09:51] <jmcnaught> tom99: so you use the mostly
unsupported older version instead?
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3609 [23:10:08] <jmcnaught> !ops jenrexxer racist spam in
-offtopic also
3610 [23:10:08] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: jenrexxer racist spam in -offtopic also
3611 [23:10:11] <jenrexxer> Honestly, I love Jew supremacists and
think they do a pretty good job running the world.
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3613 [23:10:33] <tom99> jmcnaught: it's my old install
I'm using a little to learn about linux
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3615 [23:10:43] <WormFood> zinx, why do you think it'd be a
bad idea?
3616 [23:10:44] <chicognu>
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/Makefile:647: Cannot use
CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR_REGULAR: -fstack-protector not supported by
compiler
3617 [23:10:45] <chicognu> anyclue about this problem ?
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3619 [23:11:00] <tom99> Apparently I don't even have systemd
either!
3620 [23:11:03] <zinx> WormFood: in case the non-zero bytes are
different (this is a bad hard drive.. i've seen it :X )
3621 [23:11:21] <WormFood> zinx, it's not a bad hard drive, I
was just using that as an example.
3622 [23:11:30] <zinx> WormFood: oh, well then
3623 [23:11:39] <jmcnaught> tom99: systemd was available as a
"tech preview" in wheezy, but it was a fairly early
version. In jessie it is the default init (but others are available)
3624 [23:12:14] <zinx> WormFood: i'm sure there's a perl
one-liner
3625 [23:12:23] <tom99> jmcnaught: cool. i want to learn a little
more from that debian handbook before I try something like sid
though
3626 [23:12:25] <WormFood> actually, I'm trying to download a
file on bittorrent. I found several partial torrents, and I'm
wondering if there are enough pieces between those multiple
torrents, to get a complete file. It's nothing important, just
curious.
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3628 [23:12:51] <zinx> WormFood: most torrent programs can check
the actual data to see how much is correct
3629 [23:12:59] <zinx> WormFood: and download only the needed
parts
3630 [23:13:03] <WormFood> zinx, I'm a torrent expert.
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3633 [23:13:12] <jmcnaught> tom99: don't skip jessie and go
right to sid
3634 [23:13:14] <WormFood> I've already fixed several partial
torrents.
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3636 [23:13:41] <tom99> I also want to compile a graphics heavy
application for testing, not gameplay. I wonder if virtual machine
work or if I need to install jessie directly
3637 [23:13:49] <tom99> kk
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3640 [23:13:58] <Erfan> hi :) is there a way to modify the hash
value defined for cryptsetup in debian installer?
3641 [23:14:06] <tom99> like i don't need framerate or
anything, so i think compiling in a virtual machine might work
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3644 [23:14:56] <zinx> tom99: if it uses opengl/egl/vulkan
acceleration, you may have trouble setting it up to work at a
reasonable speed inside a VM
3645 [23:15:14] <zinx> tom99: reasonable meaning you may not even
be able to test it.
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3654 [23:17:34] <iKarith> Hi all, I need to run update-initramfs
from my system inside a chroot. The installer's rescue mode
gets as confused as hell with my system (it can't handle mapper
layers), so I need to do it by hand. But I think I'm mounting
the Linux everything-is-a-filesystem filesystems wrong because after
I bind /dev, mount proc and sys, suddenly it's telling me it
can't access /dev/null amongst other things.
3655 [23:17:47] <iKarith> Like, outside the chroot.
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3660 [23:19:22] <iKarith> is there somewhere the correct
incantation for mounting everything for mounting essentially /target
in the installer environment (or another Linux installation) for
doing this kind of thing?
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3664 [23:20:05] <zinx> for that particular purpose, you should be
able to just bind mount everything
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3666 [23:20:27] <zinx> but that's not a very general
solution, and some container setup could potentially make that not
work right
3667 [23:21:21] <iKarith> zinx: Long time no type :)
3668 [23:22:01] <tom99> Currently there are two tools in Debian
capable of generating an initramfs: update-initramfs provided by
initramfs-tools (default) and dracut-update-initramfs provided by
the dracut package (experimental)
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3670 [23:22:04] <zinx> so long i had to whois you and see the
account name :P
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3672 [23:23:48] <iKarith> zinx: The setup I have is one that
should be common (if it weren't such a PITA to set up): /,
/boot, EFI ESP, and a swap partition. ...only / uses lvmcache with a
SSD and / and swap are encrypted with luks.
3673 [23:23:57] <lindylex> I am trying to setup mpd. But I am
runing into this problem. Something is listening on the port
already. Why and how do I stop it? >> tcp6 0 0 :::6600 :::*
LISTEN -
3674 [23:25:07] <iKarith> zinx: I made the mistake of trying to
use a keyscript to make it so I didn't have to type a password
for swap.
3675 [23:26:11] <iKarith> that broke it, and I need new
initramfs's to fix it.
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3677 [23:27:10] <tom99> jmcnaught: is this not an official
resource? there is no "kernel handbook" at the link for
debian manuals
3678 [23:27:11] <tom99>
replaced-url
3679 [23:27:19] <zinx> iKarith: erh, you can have cryptsetup
generate a random key for swap
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3683 [23:27:52] <jmcnaught> tom99: i don't understand, but
resources on debian.org can generally be trusted, sometimes you want
to check the date though
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3685 [23:28:31] <zinx> iKarith: you won't be able to suspend
to disk if it's on a laptop, though (suspend to ram is fine)
3686 [23:29:10] <tom99> oh ok. it seem to be some guide to
compiling the kernel with debian specifically
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3688 [23:30:07] <zinx> lindylex: if you run netstat as root with
the same arguments, it will tell you which program has the port open
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3691 [23:30:15] <lindylex> ok
3692 [23:30:23] <tom99> But I see that the official debian
handbook thing also has kernel compiling guide as well
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3694 [23:31:29] <iKarith> zinx: you should be able to use
/lib/cryptsetup/decrypt_derived on your rootfs.
3695 [23:31:34] <iKarith> that's just not working for me.
3696 [23:32:30] <lindylex> zinx: This is what I get tcp6 0 0
:::6600 :::* LISTEN 1/init
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3699 [23:33:16] <zinx> lindylex: check /etc/inittab
3700 [23:33:50] <zinx> lindylex: though that seems rather odd :/
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3702 [23:34:08] <lindylex> that directory or file does not exist.
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3704 [23:34:41] <zinx> lindylex: erh, well, /etc/init*/ then
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3707 [23:35:53] <lindylex> zinx: what am I searching for?
3708 [23:36:18] <zinx> lindylex: 6600 i guess
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3710 [23:37:27] <zinx> lindylex: looks like
/lib/systemd/system/*.socket is more relevant
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3713 [23:38:15] <zinx> frikken systemd :X
3714 [23:38:18] <lindylex> That is interesting. I never knew that
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3716 [23:38:26] <zinx> lindylex: me either!
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3720 [23:40:52] <lindylex> This is starnge I have no mpd startup
script how is it initialized?
3721 [23:41:08] <lindylex> ls /etc/rc*.d | grep mpd yields nothing
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3725 [23:41:56] <jmcnaught> lindylex:
/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket and /lib/systemd/system/mpd.service
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3730 [23:43:29] <lindylex> jmcnaught: Is it same for me to delete
them?
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3733 [23:44:50] <lindylex> safe
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3737 [23:45:50] <jmcnaught> lindylex: no don't do that
3738 [23:45:55] <lindylex> ok
3739 [23:45:56] <naptastic> If I rebuild a package from upstream,
how would I specify flags to the compiler? (Specifically, I want to
recompile the GCC with -march=native -mtune=native.)
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3741 [23:46:01] <jmcnaught> lindylex: disable or mask them
3742 [23:46:24] <lindylex> How do I dissable them? They are
stopping my init script from working.
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3744 [23:47:07] <lindylex> one sec I think I know how.
3745 [23:47:33] <lindylex> Like this systemctl disable mpd.service
3746 [23:47:38] <tom99> is /lib/cryptsetup only available on
jessie and up?
3747 [23:47:47] <tom99> my wheezy machine doesn't have it
3748 [23:48:01] <jmcnaught> lindylex: are you trying to use the
init script /etc/init.d/mpd? on a systemd system that would be
ignored for the service unit. It's possible however that the
service unit actually invokes that script though (i haven't
looked at it)
3749 [23:48:39] <jmcnaught> lindylex: systemd is backwards
compatible with LSB init scripts, but when service units exist it
will use those. so "systemctl disable mpd" will also stop
the init script from running.
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3753 [23:49:48] <lindylex> So using my mpd script in init.d is not
going to work?
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3756 [23:50:13] <alias_neo|AFK> jim: Just getting that build log,
it looks like somehow the code for dnscrypt was modified a while
back to switch from a static linked libsodium to an external dynamic
one, I can't find the change on their github though
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3762 [23:51:16] <mtcj> alias_neo: please turn that off
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3764 [23:51:40] <alias_neo> mtcj: turn what off?
3765 [23:51:46] <jmcnaught> lindylex: why not use the native
systemd units?
3766 [23:51:52] <naptastic> alias_neo, the automatic /nick
changing
3767 [23:51:58] <alias_neo> it wasn't automatic :P
3768 [23:52:03] <naptastic> oh
3769 [23:52:22] <lindylex> I would if I knew how they were
created.
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3771 [23:52:27] <jim> alias_neo, do you have a reason born out of
your own want to turn dynamic linking off?
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3773 [23:52:37] <jmcnaught> lindylex: i don't use mpd, but it
looks like the Debian maintainer (or someone) has provided a socket
unit for MPD so that systemd will listen for connections and launch
mpd when something tries to connect to it.
3774 [23:52:50] <alias_neo> jim: well, it would be nice to only
have to deploy a single binary
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3776 [23:52:59] <jim> ok
3777 [23:53:04] <alias_neo> and since the system doesn't have
libsodium in the debian repos, I'd have to install the libs too
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3779 [23:53:19] <jmcnaught> lindylex: they're very easy, in
INI format instead of scripts. "man systemd.unit" is a
good place to start
3780 [23:53:19] <jim> you mean rather than deploying the two libs
and the binary
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3782 [23:53:21] <naptastic> because coreutils should be statically
linked, as @DEITY intended??? ;)
3783 [23:53:26] <mtcj> alias_neo' you can use the command
/away to indicate you are currently unavailable, and it won't
show up in the channels you're in. Just in whois and maybe when
someone sends you a PM
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3785 [23:53:28] <alias_neo> jim: yes
3786 [23:53:59] <alias_neo> mtcj: Thanks. It's been a decade
or so since I used IRC in anger.
3787 [23:54:33] <alias_neo> nick change was teh norm back then ;)
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3789 [23:55:18] <alias_neo> jim:
replaced-url
3790 [23:55:46] <alias_neo> I can see quite clearly that it is
insisting on linking the .so
3791 [23:56:07] <jim> this is with the libs not enabling shared?
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3793 [23:56:21] <alias_neo> This is after I just deleted the
shared
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3795 [23:56:37] <alias_neo> the error when shared was tehre was
"trying to statically link dynamic object"
3796 [23:56:48] <mtcj> alias_neo: the library it's
dynamically linked to isn't in Debian repos, that's kind
of interesting. Does the maintainer include it or something instead?
3797 [23:57:24] <jim> so, whjat I think I hear you saying, is you
built the two libs, then deleted the shared libs?
3798 [23:57:26] <alias_neo> mtcj: I'm tryting to build it. I
already build libsodium, but I removed the dynamic library because I
wish to link it statically
3799 [23:57:33] <alias_neo> jim: Yes.
3800 [23:57:43] <alias_neo> jim: After testing it with the shared
libs and also failing
3801 [23:57:45] <mtcj> Ah OK I think I understand that part now.
3802 [23:58:07] <alias_neo> If I compile everything dynamic, and
dynmically link, it works, but it doesn't suit my requirement
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3805 [23:58:45] <mtcj> Can I ask again why you want it static? Not
judging just curious.
3806 [23:59:05] <alias_neo> I only, want to deploy a single
binary, and also security
3807 [23:59:36] <jim> ok, so you do have a build that does work,
the executable works under the "shared" lib thing... is
that part right?
3808 [23:59:47] <alias_neo> correct
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3810 [23:59:53] <jim> ok
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