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1 [00:00:25] <funkadelic> i was reading about this
vulnerability that im not sure if it has been patched yet, but this
article suggested making a change to /etc/sysctl.conf
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2 [00:00:26] <missmbob> Sabotender: that's assuming you
keep things slim (again, i'm on xfce). you might want to go
higher.
3 [00:01:05] <Sabotender> missmbob: I am only using it to
xcompile software. Nothing else :-P
4 [00:01:32] <missmbob> funkadelic: it hasn't been
patched. yes you can do the sysctl workaround
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7 [00:02:36] <funkadelic> missmbob, what does that line of code
actually translate to in layman terms?
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10 [00:04:04] <funkadelic> im reading the RFC it mentions in the
article
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12 [00:05:02] <funkadelic> does it only effect ipv4 or ipv6 too?
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20 [00:09:31] <format_c> funkadelic, it't a flaw in the TCP
stack. Nothing to do with IP or IPv6.
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24 [00:10:53] <doebi> how can i cherry-pick a package from
another repo without completly upgrading? i am on wheezy and need
just one package from jessie.
25 [00:11:04] <funkadelic> format_c, i see, where can i learn
about the entire tcp stack? i want to learn about every protocol
there is
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30 [00:12:04] <drjuls> missmbob: tlolczyk format_c thanks
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34 [00:13:20] <missmbob> funkadelic: go to college. google
tcp/ip and osi layer models
35 [00:13:30] <funkadelic> doebi, i can't think of a way to
do it from the command line but you could probably download the
package from here
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37 [00:13:59] <missmbob> doebi: which package do you need?
38 [00:14:00] <funkadelic> you should check the signatures and
hashes before installing any packages you download outside of your
repo
39 [00:14:42] <doebi> missmbob: libc6-dev=2.14
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43 [00:15:36] <missmbob> doebi: yeah you're fucked on that
one
44 [00:15:52] <missmbob> doebi: upgrade to jessie entirely
45 [00:15:53] <doebi> missmbob: lol, thx
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47 [00:16:03] <doebi> argh..
48 [00:16:22] <doebi> i want to get rid of that machine anyway,
thats why i never upgraded..
49 [00:16:51] <doebi> never touch a running system, you know?
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51 [00:18:41] <Sabotender> hmm...xfce or lxde
52 [00:18:44] <Sabotender> choices
53 [00:19:16] <missmbob> Sabotender: if you're feeling lazy
i've seen youtube videos of their comparisons. go watch
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55 [00:20:05] <missmbob> i just puked in my mouth a little bit
there for suggesting you learn something from youtube
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58 [00:20:58] <Sabotender> lol, well I chose lxde; sticking to
what I know. I really like cinnamon, but its a bit bulky for what I
want
59 [00:21:10] <Sabotender> it doesnt have to be pretty
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105 [00:46:04] <nmschulte> Bash on Debian Sid; Bash Completions
w/ Git + Bash Alias: bash-completion provided completions (e.g. for
git) seem to be "hot-loaded" at run-time when you first
use them. I have setup an alias for git (alias g='git'),
and setup completion for this alias (__git_complete g __git_main),
but it only works if the /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/git
script is sourced. I can do that _always_ in my
106 [00:46:11] <nmschulte> bash config (~/.bashrc), but I'd
like to make it so that trying to tab complete w/ "g"
hot-loads the source just as w/ the out-of-the-box completions.
107 [00:46:13] <nmschulte> How would I do that?
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111 [00:47:38] <missmbob> !tell nmschulte about debian-next
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116 [00:48:57] <nmschulte>
s#/usr/share/bash-completion/#/usr/bash_completion.d/#
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118 [00:49:24] <nmschulte> I don't think the bash-completion
scripts have changed that much, but mebe.
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148 [01:05:38] <Sabotender> I am trying to run the vboxadditions
for linux but am getting a permission denied?
149 [01:05:41] <Sabotender> ...wrong window
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174 [01:22:05] <ZenWalker> hello
175 [01:22:25] <ZenWalker> I send mail to control@bugs.debian.org
with the body: forwarded numberbug url
176 [01:22:27] <ZenWalker> and dont works
177 [01:23:47] <ZenWalker>
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178 [01:23:52] <ZenWalker> what happens here?
179 [01:24:00] <ZenWalker> (thanks)
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183 [01:25:45] <RoyK> ZenWalker: using exim?
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187 [01:27:19] <ZenWalker> RoyK: web interface mail (riseup)
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192 [01:29:13] <ZenWalker> previously I send tagged upstream to
control@bugs.debian.org and it works
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207 [01:34:40] <ZenWalker> well, it works with another web
interface
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216 [01:41:14] <RoyK> ZeuxBlack: why on earth would you use a web
ui for configuring a linux box?
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237 [01:53:23] <Sabotender> when installing debian should I leave
the file structure as-is or should I use separate partitions for
stuff like /var
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239 [01:54:03] <Sabotender> I have to start over because I ran
out of space in my VM. It is depressing, after I did all of that
crap, but oh well. 15GB should be plenty, instead of 8
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241 [01:54:33] <missmbob> Sabotender: you were warned :P
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243 [01:54:56] <missmbob> Sabotender: anyway for a newbie just
trying it out in a VM, it matters not at all. just keep it all in
one / partition
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245 [01:56:12] <Sabotender> missmbob: yes, yes you did warn me
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284 [02:16:51] <vyadhaka> ever since I upgraded to wheezy( was on
squeeze for a long time) my laptop just crashes at random, I notice
this happens after waking from suspend from RAM, there is no entry
in the syslog/kern.log. Where do I look to identify the issue
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312 [02:39:12] <funkadelic> vyadhaka, try asking in ##linux
they're active in there right now
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325 [02:47:05] <missmbob> drjuls: unrar is in non-free. so you
need to have non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list (might as well add
contrib) and then apt-get update and apt-get install unrar
326 [02:47:13] <missmbob> damnit. sorry
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332 [02:47:50] <dvs> !lart missmbob
333 [02:47:50] * dpkg accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets
missmbob feel it
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335 [02:48:31] <missmbob> dvs: that sounds like it might be
nice... :P
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339 [02:50:39] <funkadelic> i used an aol free cd to call 911
when i was a ltitle kid, my stepdad was in a psychotic cocaine
induced rage, he smashed all of the phones but didnt think about the
computer
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347 [02:52:35] <drjuls> missmbob: I got here. I downloaded .targz
file and copied to / bin
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351 [02:53:09] <drjuls> missmbob: now I can unpack and create
.rar
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365 [02:57:55] <Sabotender> missmbob: much better! I think part
of the issue was that I initially use separate partitions for the
folders
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369 [02:58:03] <Sabotender> so it left very little for some
thigns
370 [02:58:04] <Sabotender> I guess
371 [02:58:06] <Sabotender> lol
372 [02:58:23] <missmbob> Sabotender: yep. that's probably
#1 newbie error when they try to do that
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374 [02:59:20] <missmbob> Sabotender: which de did you pick this
time?
375 [03:00:15] <Sabotender> oh lxde again
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451 [03:42:29] <_0xbadc0de> hi there
452 [03:42:55] <_0xbadc0de> is there any way I can test if my
linux's repos are working properly?
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458 [03:44:37] <mutante> _0xbadc0de: apt-get update .. would show
if you can talk to them for one...
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516 [04:16:33] <terminalmage> For packages that provide a
multi-process service, if the service triggers an apt-get update to
update itself, this also happens to trigger a service restart.
because the default way systemd stops services is to kill all procs
in the cgroup, this can sometimes interrupt the apt-get command and
put the package database in a bad state. So, what is the best way to
handle this? Is there something that you can add
517 [04:16:35] <terminalmage> to the control file before building
the package to suppress the service restart, and handle the restart
manually once the package update is complete?
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523 [04:19:31] <_0xbadc0de> whats the default conf in
/etc/resolv.cong
524 [04:19:33] <_0xbadc0de> whats the default conf in
/etc/resolv.conf
525 [04:20:18] <missmbob> _0xbadc0de: really nothing until you
tell the installer what to put in it
526 [04:20:22] <missmbob> _0xbadc0de:
replaced-url
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541 [04:34:21] <un214> what's the replacement for sirc?
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543 [04:36:46] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: which database are you
talking about? doesn't it have ExecStop= defined?
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545 [04:37:14] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: dpkg
546 [04:37:16] <terminalmage> and no, it does not
547 [04:38:46] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: oh i see, i misread at
first. so which service is calling apt-get update and getting
restarted when that happens?
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551 [04:40:00] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: anyways i believe there
are debhelper scripts for systemd.. are you already using debhelper?
552 [04:40:42] <un214> Is petn-randall here?
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560 [04:44:26] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: this is for SaltStack.
when it runs an apt-get update to update itself, it triggers a
service restart. that service restart kills all procs, killing the
process which executed the apt-get command. We've used
KillMode=process in the unit file to ensure that the main PID is
killed, but I'm in the process of adding systemd-notify support
so that we can set Type=notify in the unit file and then notify
561 [04:44:28] <terminalmage> systemd directly once the process
starts. Problem with this is, this approach doesn't seem to be
compatible with KillMode=process.
562 [04:44:34] <terminalmage> The child PIDs never get stoppped
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566 [04:46:19] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: I'm not sure,
I'm actually not the packager... just looking for information
at this point.
567 [04:46:19] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: does saltstack have a
way to say "wait for this process to finish"?
568 [04:47:17] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: not that I'm
aware... shell commands are triggered using Python's
subprocess.Popen()
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570 [04:48:12] <terminalmage> It's something I can
investigate though
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572 [04:50:04] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: i don't know
saltstack very well, but in ansible there is
replaced-url
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578 [04:52:23] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: yeah but this seems like
salt's requisites, we have a couple that let you wait to
trigger one action until a condition has been met
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581 [04:53:03] <terminalmage> this implies that what you're
waiting for though is some other action that Ansible/Salt is taking
582 [04:53:31] <terminalmage> in this case though, we have the
post-upgrade triggering a service restart, and this is happening
out-of-band, so to speak
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586 [04:54:50] <terminalmage> best way I can think of to handle
this is to specially handle SIGTERM
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588 [04:55:08] <terminalmage> which seems icky
589 [04:55:35] <terminalmage> unless I can find a way to just
keep the automatic restart from happening in the post-upgrade
590 [04:56:29] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: does saltstack always
get restarted, or only when its package is upgraded? maybe in a
saltstack channel someone has a strategy for dealing with this
problem
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594 [04:57:06] <terminalmage> nah this is specifically something
that happens with the .deb package
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596 [04:58:12] <jmcnaught> i mean it seems like a saltstack
problem that other people using saltstack and debian must have
encountered so it wouldn't hurt to ask
597 [04:58:17] <terminalmage> I'm a core dev for salt so I
grok the code well enough. but I'm not very knowledgable about
making .deb packages
598 [04:58:43] <terminalmage> I'm hoping to find some
information that I can pass on to the packager
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601 [05:00:09] <terminalmage> and I'm familiar enough with
the problems people have with triggering the package upgrade from
within salt, and the ways that people work around it. I'm
working to make sure people don't _have_ to work around it.
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604 [05:01:18] <terminalmage> Hence asking about ways to prevent
the upgrade causing a service restart.
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606 [05:02:29] <terminalmage> this happens when manually running
apt-get upgrade from the shell, so it's not a problem internal
to salt. it's part of the post-upgrade when the package is
upgraded.
607 [05:03:07] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: could you have saltstack
make a separate saltstack-apt-upgrade.service that it starts, so the
apt-get process is running in a different service cgroup than the
saltstack process?
608 [05:03:20] <un214> let me guess; the service restart killed
the upgrade process
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610 [05:04:47] <un214> sounds like a job for nohup
611 [05:04:50] <rklopfer> is there a way to use
update-alternatives install without creating a sym link? i'm
trying to do something like `sudo update-alternatives --install
NOLINK x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/termoinology 10`
612 [05:05:39] <un214> no there isn't
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617 [05:07:23] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: I suppose. I would
probably need to modify the apt module to recognize that it's
upgrading salt itself and handle those cases specially. Seems like a
dirty hack that I'd rather avoid, but I'll definitely keep
it in consideration
618 [05:07:51] <HumanDebug> Anyone get a AwUS052NH to work?
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622 [05:10:01] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: perhaps using
systemd-run to run the upgrade process in a different .service or
.scope unit
623 [05:11:33] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: and instead of using a
special case for when saltstack's package is being upgraded,
just always use a separate scope for apt-get upgrade
624 [05:12:23] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: I've never used
.scope, I'll do some RTFMing. thanks for the idea
625 [05:12:23] <jmcnaught> there may be a better solution with
directives in the saltstack service unit, have you asked in
#systemd?
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629 [05:13:01] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: I have not, but I was
planning on doing so
630 [05:13:19] <jmcnaught> terminalmage:
replaced-url
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632 [05:15:20] <terminalmage> yeah. I'm pretty sure that any
version of debian/ubuntu/etc. which uses systemd would have version
205 or newer, so this looks like it may prove fruitful
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637 [05:16:13] <jmcnaught> terminalmage: i hope you find a
solution. sorry for any confusion i brought to the process earlier
;)
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643 [05:17:58] <terminalmage> jmcnaught: no problem :)
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656 [05:25:28] <g5095> Hello, I have a package
'libimobiledevice6:amd64' that is not configured, and is
blocking me installing anything with apt. I can't remove it
with apt or dpkg. It just says: 'dpkg: error processing package
libimobiledevice6:amd64 (--configure): package is in a very bad
inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting
configuration.' .. but I cannot install it, or delete it, or
purge it
657 [05:25:55] <g5095> just keeps giving the same error no matter
what I try
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668 [05:28:45] <themill> g5095: are you running sid or stretch?
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671 [05:34:24] <g5095> themill: ubuntu
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673 [05:34:43] <themill> g5095: you'd need to ask #ubuntu
about the package then
674 [05:34:58] <g5095> I'm not asking about the package,
I'm asking about the package management system
675 [05:35:04] <g5095> I don't really care about the package
676 [05:35:08] <g5095> I want to nuke it
677 [05:35:12] <themill> Your package manager comes from Ubuntu.
678 [05:35:21] <g5095> dpkg?
679 [05:35:28] <g5095> debian package manager?
680 [05:35:29] <themill> Does this look like #dpkg ?
681 [05:35:42] <un214> !dpkg
682 [05:35:42] <dpkg> it has been said that dpkg is the program
used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg".
Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is
also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
683 [05:36:13] <g5095> well, thanks for your wisdom
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687 [05:39:24] <system-x> anyone use google apps here?
688 [05:40:14] <sypher> !polls
689 [05:40:15] <dpkg> "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is
taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can
answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers
will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>.
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695 [05:43:02] <Illuminato> hello
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698 [05:45:24] <system-x> what the hell is this bullshit
699 [05:45:32] <system-x> dont !polls me
700 [05:45:34] <system-x> just answer the question
701 [05:45:51] <system-x> 1000 users in here and youre all limp
dicked until the right questions asked?
702 [05:45:53] <system-x> you kidding me
703 [05:45:55] <system-x> this place is a shithole
704 [05:46:02] <system-x> shut it down and kill yourselves
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706 [05:46:04] <sypher> system-x: Bye.
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708 [05:47:25] <Xin> lol
709 [05:47:31] <sypher> Self-solving problem.
710 [05:47:36] <Xin> ^^
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730 [06:01:03] <un214> lol / small loss
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745 [06:10:23] <vyadhaka> since I upgraded to Debian jessie,
encountering random crashes after resuming from sleep, when the
crash happens, the screen is blank and none of the buttons on the
keyboard have any effect, have to do a hard reboot. this only
happens after resuming from sleep. I dont see any errors in syslog
or kern.log, any suggestions?
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753 [06:13:46] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: what video drivers are you
using? are you able to try network access to the frozen computer
(ssh from another computer on the LAN perhaps)? If you enable
persistent journals (see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian) i can
show you a command to check the last few lines of logs of every boot
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756 [06:15:03] <SlazO> Good Morning
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759 [06:17:45] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: "for boot in
$(journalctl --list-boots | awk '{print $2;}'); do
journalctl --boot $boot --lines 20; done | less" this looks at
the last 20 lines of every boot in the journal, which i have found
useful for debugging issues like this (looking for patterns in the
last few messages)
760 [06:17:52] <starstuff> After reboot the 144Hz refresh rate
setting reverts back to the default of 60Hz. How do I make it
persist?
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764 [06:20:27] <SlazO> xorg.conf
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767 [06:21:44] <SlazO> or xrandr
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769 [06:22:33] <SlazO> something like: xrandr --output HDMI1
--mode 1920x1080 --rate 144
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773 [06:23:10] <FreshDumbledore> hi, i just installed the
proprietary nvidia drivers and miss the nvidia-xconfig tool. apt
tells me there is no such package. im on jessie and followed the
official instruction guide on
replaced-url
774 [06:23:23] <Xin> holy shit 144hz
775 [06:23:26] <Xin> thats insanity
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778 [06:25:25] <SlazO> FreshDumbledore: Did you installed
nvidia-xconfig from the contrib repo?
779 [06:25:51] <starstuff> FreshDumbledore: aptitude install
nvidia-settings
780 [06:26:56] <FreshDumbledore> SlazO, thx, lacked the contrib
keyword in my sources file :)
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782 [06:27:35] <starstuff> yeah, it's a contrib package
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788 [06:31:58] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: I think it's a hard
lock up, ok got ssh access from another PC (couldn't find gufw
under gnome, apparently another bug, Gnome sucks big time). I will
check ssh access next time it crashes.
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792 [06:33:12] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka:
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793 [06:33:36] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: is systemd default in
jessie?
794 [06:34:06] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: yes
795 [06:34:22] <SlazO> yes..:(
796 [06:34:37] <jmcnaught> sysvinit and upstart are also
available, more stuff is likely to work properly with systemd since
it's the default
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798 [06:36:28] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: it's very unlikely that
this problem has anything to do with your init system though..
it's more likely an issue with Xorg or a video driver not
coming out of suspend cleanly but still locking up the screen
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803 [06:40:34] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: I agree, ok have the journal
setup for systemd, suspended the sys,
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807 [06:42:52] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: this trick of looking at the
final log entries fromm previous boots is going to pay more
dividends once you have a few boots to compare for clues, but
it's good that you now have it in place in case you don't
find a solution right away
808 [06:43:20] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: by the way got Nvidia
proprietary driver
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810 [06:43:55] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: it's worth testing with
nouveau then
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812 [06:44:47] <freakyy> hi all. is anyone interested in a shell
on a debian server= im giving away 1 free shell account for free.
813 [06:44:57] <freakyy> on my private server :)
814 [06:45:24] <han-solo> why would you wanna do that?
815 [06:45:58] <han-solo> especially to a stranger? :/
816 [06:46:12] <freakyy> because im a nice person and because i
like to know people who have some knowledge, and provide them with
something i can give. i wanna support people who are interested etc.
817 [06:46:22] <freakyy> han-solo: well ... we would get to know
each other ;D
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819 [06:46:50] <freakyy> it's a good server and rented and
its in some datacenter ;)
820 [06:47:15] <han-solo> well, good luck
821 [06:47:47] <freakyy> thanks ;D
822 [06:48:01] <freakyy> it runs debian 8.5
823 [06:48:05] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: the update from sqeeze to
wheezy was a mess, the wrong nvidia driver got installed and same
with jessie, it figures out the chip spec correctly but goes and
installs the wrong dirver. I think I tried nouveau and it did not
work so stayed with nvidia one
824 [06:48:23] <SlazO> han-solo: It's a trap o.O :D
825 [06:48:30] <han-solo> don't mention
826 [06:48:31] <vyadhaka> also when did they move back to firefox
from iceweasel ?
827 [06:48:53] <han-solo> :)
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829 [06:49:33] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: there's a security
announcement about it, DSA-3600 i think. did you follow the upgrade
instructions in the release notes both times?
830 [06:50:23] <vyadhaka> vyadhaka: yes, always do, I did not see
anything regarding nvidia issues in the RN, or are you talking abt
firefox?
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832 [06:51:37] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: release notes for the
upgrades.. i don't think there's any chip detection, it
just upgrades the packages. firefox-esr is DSA-3600
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834 [06:53:06] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: I checked the logs after the
upgrades and there was some logic about identifying the chip and
then installing the appropriate driver, both times it caused me
headaches
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837 [06:54:34] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: oh.. well i might suggest
switching to nouveau before upgrading, then reinstalling nvidia if
it has given you trouble. debian obviously doesn't have as much
control over how well the nvidia drivers integrate with the rest of
the system
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839 [06:55:20] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: I did not file a bug report
because, this is not my main system anymore, just a backup but loved
the stability of squeeze, would have stayed on it forever if not for
browser incompatibilities
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845 [06:56:35] <hiya> I am looking for advice on whether or not
should I switch my laptop with Intel® Core™ i5-4210U CPU @
1.70GHz × 4 | 4 GB Ram | from Stable to testing/stretch owing
to performance issues
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849 [06:57:49] <sypher> hiya: What performance issues are you
having, and why do you think that moving to testing will solve them?
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851 [06:58:09] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: my experience on jessie has
been very positive, but i do not use proprietary drivers
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853 [06:58:24] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: anyways good luck finding
clues to research, i've gotta go
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856 [06:59:25] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: thanks for your help,
it's been over a year since I was here last, always a great
place to visit. cheers
857 [06:59:33] <hiya> sypher, latest Intel graphics drivers and
linux features don't you think it might give it a push?
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860 [07:00:18] <hiya> performance related and graphics related,
like when I start firefox, for a flash it shows correctly only on
half of the screen and then full display is correct, and the
laptop's performance is sluggish and slow, I run Firefox with
video running, a terminal windows, Hexchat, tor-browser and
sometimes openvpn too
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865 [07:02:42] <sypher> hiya: And what changelog entries in the
stretch packages lead you to believe that testing is the cure? I
can't tell you "no, don't waste your time," but
I CAN tell you that if you have to ask us if testing will fix your
problem, 1) it probably won't and 2) you shouldn't anyway.
Testing can be expected to break at certain times, and also does not
receive timely security updates.
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869 [07:05:03] <hiya> sypher, ah? Do you know Files would just
freeze when you type anything in it rapidly?
870 [07:05:06] <hiya> What could be the issue?
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874 [07:05:11] <hiya> Anyone else can confirm it?
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882 [07:09:51] <sypher> hiya: Well, I can't imagine that a
very weak dual-core CPU is going to be a blazing performer. But no,
I can't say that I've seen that behavior.
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895 [07:17:56] <hiya> sypher, heh, so it is very weak ? :D I did
not know
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910 [07:32:38] <_rubik> Hey guys. I was having a few issues with
ipv4 vs ipv6 and my VPN + DNS.. I was leaking to my ISP because my
VPN doesnt support ipv6.
911 [07:33:13] <_rubik> So I set the network manager connection
ipv6 to ignore, and added the OpenVPN DNS to ipv4. But when I check
with ip addr ls, my inet6 still pops up.
912 [07:33:33] <_rubik> Is there a way to disable ipv6
entirley...
913 [07:34:26] <jelly> !noipv6
914 [07:34:26] <dpkg> From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
onwards, <IPv6> is built into the Linux kernel (excluding the
loongson-2f flavour). To disable IPv6, add the kernel command line
option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader.
915 [07:34:28] <Dagger> just use a VPN that supports v6
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917 [07:35:03] <_rubik> Dagger: That is true. But I like PIA for
a number of reasons.
918 [07:35:17] <Dagger> we are well beyond the point where the
appropriate response to any and all v6 issues is "disable
v6"
919 [07:35:20] <_rubik> that.. and the network im ususally on all
year is ipv4 only.
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922 [07:35:55] <bibble> _rubik: I'm looking into openvpn
ipv6 too. think you've got to put 'push route
address' settings in server config too, and use proto udp6
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926 [07:36:45] <_rubik> bibble: Well the issue is, PIA (my vpn
service) doesn't support udp6 yet. So IPv6 + their .opvn is
pretty out of the question.
927 [07:36:58] <bibble> ah, see
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929 [07:38:44] <bibble> such a horrible thing across the web at
the moment really. all these providers and tutorials, not informing
users that they are still using their origin ipv6. terrible
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934 [07:41:40] <_rubik> bibble: Yeah I'm speaking with
someone over there, and he's bascially saying "I'll
bring it up with the dev team"
935 [07:41:58] <_rubik> Which means, 2+ more years... I might
just make my open OpenVPN serv..
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939 [07:44:25] <bibble> Right. Though I haven't managed to
get ipv4 & ipv6 working on same vpn connection. living with poor
man's ssh vpn. fine for Linux OS, but still looking for an
android solution . ;_;
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943 [07:46:59] <sypher> I have successfully built a dual-stack
OpenVPN server.
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945 [07:47:22] <sypher> So it can indeed be done. You just have
to have a large enough v6 address space to allow OpenVPN to have its
own /64.
946 [07:47:59] <bibble> sypher: each connection have it's
own /64 ?
947 [07:48:21] <sypher> bibble: No, the OpenVPN service as a
whole must have a /64.
948 [07:48:30] <bibble> Ah, cool.
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950 [07:48:41] <_rubik> sypher: I know digital ocean has a pretty
decent guide than can be adapted to v6. Do you have any notes on
your server?
951 [07:49:01] <sypher> _rubik: DigitalOcean cannot be used for
an ipv6 openvpn server.
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953 [07:49:25] <sypher> _rubik: Assuming you have a large enough
address space, it's actually quite easy. I'll see if I can
dredge up my old documentation.
954 [07:49:33] <bibble> sypher: publish a tutorial, will be best
on the net !
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956 [07:50:54] <_rubik> sypher: +1 would give an OTPHJ for a good
guide on that.
957 [07:51:18] <bibble> vpn ipv4 subnet using 10.8.0.0. what are
you using for ipv6 ?
958 [07:51:39] <bibble> _rubik: lol
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960 [07:52:02] <sypher> bibble: Remember that ipv6 doesn't
really have private address spaces like ipv4 does. You have to use
an actual routed and allocated ipv6 space.
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962 [07:52:21] <bibble> see :)
963 [07:53:01] <sypher> bibble: The only VPS provider that I have
yet encountered that will offer routed ipv6 blocks is Linode.
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965 [07:53:28] <sypher> bibble: DigitalOcean restricts you to a
range of 16 addresses, and Vultr only allocates a /64. Per ipv6
standards, this should not be subdivided.
966 [07:53:48] <bibble> Ah, interesting. that's a shame
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969 [07:54:36] <sypher> In fact, with a properly configured
server, an openvpn client will have dual-stack connectivity even if
the network over which the vpn connection is established is v4 only.
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971 [07:55:19] <sypher> I think this has ventured very far off
topic for #debian.
972 [07:55:28] <sypher> Migrating this conversation to #openvpn.
973 [07:56:16] <bibble> You need to be registered with nickserv I
think, for #openvpn
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978 [08:00:59] <bibble> znc saves nickserv password in plaintext
... today is just a bombardment of crazy revelations !
979 [08:02:28] <Dagger> it needs the plaintext password to send
it to nickserv, so it can't store a hash
980 [08:02:55] <Dagger> maybe encrypting it with your ZNC
password would make sense... but cert auth is a better idea anyway
981 [08:03:13] <bibble> good point Dagger
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1058 [08:55:52] <LadY_aSaL> hi
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1063 [08:57:37] <LadY_aSaL> hi
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1065 [09:00:22] <somiaj> !ask
1066 [09:00:22] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
1067 [09:00:38] <LadY_aSaL> :_
1068 [09:00:49] <LadY_aSaL> :(
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1070 [09:01:30] <somiaj> Just using the bot to say, if you have a
question about debian just ask. If you are looking for a social
channel you may want to try elsewhere.
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1084 [09:04:02] <sleepster> is there an easy way to contribute to
debian?
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1086 [09:04:05] <sleepster> just to get my feet wet
1087 [09:04:08] <sleepster> so to speak
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1097 [09:05:29] <somiaj> sleepster: lots depends on your skill
set, I contribute by helping support debian here. There is also
submitting patches the the BTS to improve packages, and so forth.
Here is some docs too.
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1101 [09:05:55] <somiaj> there is this too
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1104 [09:06:17] <sleepster> gracias senior somiaj
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1125 [09:10:16] <MaBunny> hello guys
1126 [09:10:23] <MaBunny> long time no see
1127 [09:10:31] <MaBunny> ive a problem
1128 [09:10:44] <MaBunny> my deb box crashed
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1130 [09:11:02] <MaBunny> better to say the pendrive crashed
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1133 [09:11:33] <MaBunny> so im reinstalling debian,but this time
only cli
1134 [09:11:36] <MaBunny> so
1135 [09:12:11] <MaBunny> when i tried to autoconfigure network
settings in installer,somehow
1136 [09:12:24] <MaBunny> the process didnt work
1137 [09:12:50] <somiaj> MaBunny: what network card? is it a wifi
card?
1138 [09:13:04] <MaBunny> in case i manage to only install the
base system,is their any webpage
1139 [09:13:19] <MaBunny> to get a tutorial?
1140 [09:13:33] <somiaj> many network cards (mostly wifi) require
non-free firmware to fully work and the installer won't be able
to auto configure the network.
1141 [09:13:55] <MaBunny> somiaj: im using adb to configure my
smartphone n connect through it
1142 [09:14:04] <somiaj> I don't have a good tutorial that I
know of, but if you just finished the install and only have a base
system, the first thing I would do is get your network up and
running. In this case you will need to know the chipset of the
network card you are using.
1143 [09:14:25] <MaBunny> like plug n play
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1145 [09:14:46] <somiaj> MaBunny: so you are using the smartphone
as a teather or as a hotspot and need to get your wifi card working?
I don't have much knowledge/experience with teathering an
internet connection via a smartphone.
1146 [09:14:49] <MaBunny> its installing base system atm
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1148 [09:15:16] <MaBunny> no...i dont hav a wifi card
1149 [09:15:34] <MaBunny> just use teathering option n adb to
connect
1150 [09:15:57] <somiaj> I'm unsure of any tools to do this
or automate it.
1151 [09:16:02] <MaBunny> ill try to reconfigure the network,if
its possible
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1153 [09:16:11] <MaBunny> ok
1154 [09:16:43] <somiaj> I did find this.
replaced-url
1155 [09:16:56] <MaBunny> thnx
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1159 [09:19:10] <John341> Booting debian 8.5 glance image, results
in, ALERT! /dev/vda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! can anyone
please advice on how to fix?
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1164 [09:21:09] <LadY_aSaL> hello
1165 [09:21:53] <MaBunny> hello LadY_aSaL
1166 [09:22:13] <LadY_aSaL> where are you from?
1167 [09:22:41] <MaBunny> im from russia
1168 [09:22:46] <MaBunny> you?
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1170 [09:22:58] <LadY_aSaL> from iran
1171 [09:23:15] <MaBunny> if you hav any questions,pls ask
1172 [09:23:43] <LadY_aSaL> :)
1173 [09:23:50] <MaBunny> for normal chitchat,join
#debian-offtopic
1174 [09:23:51] <somiaj> John341: what is a 'glance'
image? It sounds like the actual device of the root filesystem (or
some other file system) needed during the boot is not being properly
detected? Is this a VPS you are using?
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1177 [09:24:23] <somiaj> freenode also has other social channels
(not that I know of any)
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1179 [09:24:56] <MaBunny> most are question come social channels
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1217 [09:49:32] <John341> somiaj: the debian openstack image
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1232 [09:59:44] <sleepster> I was thinking about trying
"debian testing" but that seems pretty similar to debian
sid
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1234 [09:59:56] <sleepster> is there really a big difference
between the two?
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1236 [10:00:17] <H4ndy> testing is more stable
1237 [10:00:52] <sleepster> yeah, that's what it says but I
am wondering if in practice
1238 [10:00:56] <sleepster> it really is more unstable
1239 [10:01:25] <H4ndy> well debian in itself is pretty stable
1240 [10:01:36] <H4ndy> but I would not run a production machine
on sid
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1243 [10:01:53] <H4ndy> I have one webserver on testing since I
like the almost up-to-date packages
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1245 [10:02:46] <H4ndy> I think it all comes down to how new of
packages you need and how much you can live with if something
happens to break for a whiule
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1266 [10:15:33] <danialbehzadi> Hi. My systemd seems to be broken.
Every systemctl task timeouts like this:
1267 [10:15:33] <danialbehzadi> $ sudo systemctl status
apache2.service
1268 [10:15:34] <danialbehzadi> Failed to get properties:
Connection timed out
1269 [10:15:34] <danialbehzadi> So, I can not upgrade any service
package.
1270 [10:15:34] <danialbehzadi> Any Idea?
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1286 [10:22:09] <vyadhaka> I am trying to uninstall nvidia drivers
and install nouveau, couldn't find any document on it, I am
guessing the process is purge all nvidia stuff > remove nouveau
from black list > remove xorg.conf > install nouveau >
reboot. is that correct?
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1290 [10:26:41] <Rephlexie> you use apt to install or the
installer?
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1292 [10:28:06] <Rephlexie> iirc the installer at least came with
either a script or possibly even a /bin to uninstall
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1301 [10:31:07] <vyadhaka> sorry crashed out, not sure if anyone
replied to my qts >I am trying to uninstall nvidia drivers and
install nouveau, couldn't find any document on it, I am
guessing the process is purge all nvidia stuff > remove nouveau
from black list > remove xorg.conf > install nouveau >
reboot. is that correct?
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1304 [10:33:56] <missmbob> !tell vyadhaka about remove nvidia
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1306 [10:34:00] <missmbob> vyadhaka: that might work
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1318 [10:38:34] <Rephlexie> vyadhaka, you use apt or the install?
if installer theres an uninstall bin or a flag to with the .sh
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1320 [10:39:26] <vyadhaka> Rephlexie: I followed
replaced-url
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1322 [10:40:21] <vyadhaka> but want to go back to nouveau, looks
like nvidia is crashing the system at random after resuming from
suspend
1323 [10:40:21] <Rephlexie> vyadhaka, yeah youre on track then for
sure purge the sucker :D
1324 [10:40:44] <vyadhaka> Rephlexie: so purge all nvidia first?
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1329 [10:42:14] <Rephlexie> yeah then guessing adding nov to
modules after that
1330 [10:42:24] <vyadhaka> Rephlexie: apt-get purge --auto-remove
nvidia*?
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1332 [10:43:02] <Rephlexie> yeah that should do it
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1334 [10:43:37] <vyadhaka> do the gdm or similar have to be
stopped before?
1335 [10:43:52] <vyadhaka> or should I just login to console to do
this?
1336 [10:44:18] <tako> i need to downgrade my openssl version
1337 [10:44:26] <tako> i install it from jessie backports
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1340 [10:44:39] <tako> but i should install it from jessie
packages
1341 [10:44:43] <Rephlexie> good question i usually kill the
greeter when messing with nvid stuff
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1343 [10:45:14] <lnx765> Hey. Until now I've been using
Ubuntu as a web/email server. But I thought, since Ubuntu is based
on Debian, why not just use Debian? What do you advice?
1344 [10:46:37] <tako> anyone know ? how to downgrade package from
jessie backports
1345 [10:46:40] <tako> to jessie
1346 [10:46:44] <jim> what if someone (not me tho) wants to learn
to write drivers? is there a sample kernel driver?
1347 [10:46:49] <missmbob> lnx765: use debian
1348 [10:47:02] <lnx765> why?
1349 [10:47:06] <missmbob> tako you download it manually and then
force dpkg --force-all -i foo.deb
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1351 [10:47:19] <missmbob> !tell lnx765 about why debian
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1353 [10:47:34] <tako> how can i download it manually
1354 [10:47:45] <tako>
replaced-url
1355 [10:47:45] <missmbob> tako: get it from packages.debian.org
1356 [10:47:51] <missmbob> !tell tako about downgrade
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1359 [10:48:31] <tako> well which one i should download .tar.gz or
.tar.xz ?
1360 [10:48:55] <missmbob> tako: neither. which package are you
looking at?
1361 [10:48:59] <tako> they are source
1362 [10:49:03] <tako> i got it now
1363 [10:49:20] <tako> my computer is amd64 isnt it :D
1364 [10:49:27] <missmbob> most likely
1365 [10:50:08] <jim> tako, cat /proc/cpuinfo | nc termbin.com
9999
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1368 [10:50:35] <jim> then tell em that, and they could probably
tell you what it is
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1370 [10:50:50] <danialbehzadi> Hi. My systemd seems to be broken.
Every systemctl task timeouts like this:
1371 [10:50:57] <danialbehzadi> Failed to get properties:
Connection timed out
1372 [10:50:58] <tako>
replaced-url
1373 [10:51:05] <danialbehzadi> So, I can not upgrade any service
package.
1374 [10:51:12] <danialbehzadi> Any Idea?
1375 [10:51:43] <tako> jim, i didnt understand still and its not
my computer its server from digitalocea
1376 [10:52:08] <missmbob> tako: it's pretty good at that.
yes that's 64-bit
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1379 [10:52:56] <jim> tako, that's a way of pastebinning the
output of an arbitrary command
1380 [10:52:58] <tako> hmm okay thanks
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1382 [10:54:06] <tako> yea still same problem when i download
openssl from normal jessie repo i'm getting this error
1383 [10:54:07] <tako> openssl:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: version
`OPENSSL_1.0.1s' not found (required by openssl)
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1385 [10:54:17] <tako> thats why i upgrade it to backport version
1386 [10:54:49] <tako> but it is also problem for me i need
openssl 1.0.1
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1388 [10:55:23] <jim> maybe yoou can get the .deb of it
1389 [10:55:25] <missmbob> jessie stable is 1.0.1t
1390 [10:56:15] <tako> yea stable 1.0.1t and when i try to run
openssl from terminal i'm getting this error
1391 [10:56:36] <missmbob> then i'm guessing you did more
manual things than that single backport
1392 [10:56:37] <tako> its happened me before and i update it
1393 [10:56:56] <missmbob> heh. i've never seen that before.
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1395 [10:57:43] <tako> i need this package libcrypto.so.1.0.0
1396 [10:57:58] <jim> the thing is, installing a package whose
package name is the same as a package that has already been
installed, theoretically should replace it... what I'm telling
yuou is... it might work
1397 [10:58:03] <tako>
replaced-url
1398 [10:58:58] <jim> if it does, you might be good, if not, it
could be as bad (and extreme) as having to reinstall debian
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1400 [10:59:48] <tako> its already installed
1401 [11:00:20] <jim> the nonbackport one?
1402 [11:00:25] <tako>
replaced-url
1403 [11:00:26] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1410 [11:03:42] <tako> what should i do now
1411 [11:04:31] <john_rambo> I cant mount my external HDD ....
lsusb shows the drive >>>
replaced-url
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1413 [11:05:09] <tako>
replaced-url
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1416 [11:05:24] <elliot007> I'm setting up my cloud server by
following this guide
replaced-url
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1419 [11:05:47] <elliot007> but its now showing "403
Forbidden"
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1423 [11:06:40] <tako> it is work when i install these packages
from stable so
1424 [11:06:45] <tako> manually
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1427 [11:08:35] <nicknight> Hi I am new to debian
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1429 [11:08:40] <Skyrider> Hi
1430 [11:09:12] <Skyrider> elliot007: I assume that's a
question for #nginx
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1432 [11:09:42] <elliot007> skyrider: Idk if its of nginx or
debian
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1435 [11:10:25] <elliot007> let me ask there too
1436 [11:10:27] <Skyrider> nginx in general, the 403 displays as
'something' isn't set up properly or filled in
properly.
1437 [11:11:25] <Skyrider> just make sure the
replaced-url
1438 [11:11:48] <elliot007> yep already uploaded the files
1439 [11:11:50] <Skyrider> btw...
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1441 [11:11:53] <Skyrider> That page is old
1442 [11:12:22] <Skyrider> in the virtual host file, change index
index.html index.htm; to index index.php index.html index.htm;
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1444 [11:13:45] <elliot007> okay they are replying there
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1446 [11:14:54] <vyadhaka> Rephlexie: ok got the nouveau driver
installed but the resolution is off? how to change the settings
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1448 [11:16:12] <Rephlexie> vyadhaka, sweet! good to hear man. hmm
you autogen xorg?
1449 [11:17:19] <vyadhaka> Rephlexie: I did not do any setup for
nouveau, purged nvidia, removed xorg.conf, removed nouveau from
blacklist, and rebooted,
1450 [11:18:38] <Rephlexie> gotcha, might have to wiki your
monitor and tinker with a [screen] setup in xorg.conf
1451 [11:19:19] <vyadhaka> there is no xorg.conf, should there be
one?
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1453 [11:20:43] <Rephlexie> yep! X --configure then move the
.new.conf over to /etc
1454 [11:21:49] <Rephlexie>
replaced-url
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1456 [11:22:12] <jmcnaught> usually the free drivers don't
need an xorg.conf
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1458 [11:22:45] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: thats what I thought after
reading the info around the web
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1461 [11:23:02] <Delicates> Anyone can think of a tool that can
monitor health of a box, through real time, or logs, and can provide
a simple dashboard to alert when anything starts going wrong - e.g.
HD I/O failures, processes going RAM or network hungry, etc.?
1462 [11:23:17] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: can you change the
resolution in the settings of your desktop or window manager?
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1464 [11:24:12] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: no it is incorrect there
lists monitor as unknown and max resolution as 1024x768
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1466 [11:26:34] <jmcnaught> Delicates: what systems do you want to
monitor?
1467 [11:26:48] <Delicates> jmcnaught: Linux
1468 [11:27:01] <jmcnaught> Delicates: desktops? servers?
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1470 [11:27:31] <Delicates> jmcnaught: Desktop
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1472 [11:28:43] <jmcnaught> Delicates: something like conky, or
may desktop environments have applets or widgets you can add to your
desktop
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1476 [11:32:15] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: you may as well check to see
if there is anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and you end up needing
to put a snippet there about your display and the resolution it
should be set to. As far as i know nouveau does not require a
non-free firmware like radeon does, but i could be wrong.
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1478 [11:32:49] <jmcnaught> vyadhaka: also check your
/var/log/Xorg.0.log to verify that the nouveau driver is actually
being used, and it's not running with fbdev
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1484 [11:36:43] <Delicates> jmcnaught: nice tip, Conky looks like
a GKrellM replacement. :) Though I might look into Nagios first
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1488 [11:37:51] <jmcnaught> Delicates: nagios is something you
would most often use on a server but maybe also for a whole bunch of
desktops. If you look at nagios also look at icinga which is a
rewrite of it
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1501 [11:48:11] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: I was just reading about it,
when I tried to create the xorg.conf, got the error 'Number of
created screens does not match the number of detected
devices'?, this is so broken!!!
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1507 [11:53:53] <OERIAS> UBUNTU ROCK!!!!
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1524 [12:12:21] <koma> hello!
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1544 [12:31:25] <sphalerite> What would be the best way to get a
4.7 kernel on jessie? backports only has 4.6...
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1547 [12:32:46] <missmbob> sphalerite: you wait a few days.
it's not even in sid yet.
1548 [12:32:52] <missmbob> sphalerite: or build it yourself
1549 [12:33:18] <vyadhaka> jmcnaught: sorted with help from guys @
#nouveau, there was file under modeprobe.d that I renamed but still
got picked up as it only looks at the end of the name!!!
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1552 [12:35:16] <zebulon1st> hi ! I have a little pb that I
can't solve by myself : I have 2 PCs, on old but still running
well AMD Athlon running Windows XP and is my network host (handling
the cnx), and a new I7-880 running Debian testing
"stretch" and is my network guest. They are connected each
other, and the local network is all ok. But, when I want to
move/copy something from Debian to XP, in XP I always have a f*****g
request telling...
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1555 [12:36:03] <missmbob> !tell zebulon1st about debian-next
1556 [12:36:48] <zebulon1st> ... "Do you want to move/copy
the files from this location ?" [yes|no]. I try since this
early morning to find how to remove this unusable protection. Note:
it's not "strectch" specific, but XP's.
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1559 [12:37:20] <zebulon1st> I tried to found a solution in the
web, but found none. :S
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1571 [12:43:24] <Rephlexie> zebulon1st,
replaced-url
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1573 [12:44:38] <zebulon1st> Rephlexie: oh, ok. I was sure I have
to do something this way (regedit), but found nothing. Thank you
very much. ;)
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1589 [12:51:55] <lnx765> Ubuntu sometimes shows "system
restart required" after running apt-get upgrade.
1590 [12:51:55] <lnx765> Does Debian every do this? Haven't
seen this yet.
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1592 [12:52:10] <lnx765> I'm using Debian 8.
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1606 [12:54:56] <missmbob> lnx765: debian has needrestart
1607 [12:55:29] <lnx765> missmbob: but i have to run it manually?
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1609 [12:55:39] <missmbob> lnx765: yes
1610 [12:55:44] <lnx765> ok cool
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1615 [12:59:09] <OERIAS> ?join #defocus
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1621 [13:03:58] <zebulon1st> Rephlexie: thank you again. problem
solved. no more request that I add before. \o/
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1632 [13:10:54] <Rephlexie> zebulon1st, sweet man! glad its workin
out!
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1637 [13:12:15] <Rephlexie> zebulon1st, so stupid that Xp will let
you trust a single file but a ton from the same source requires a
twister game with settings.
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1643 [13:16:01] <antoro> hey, I want to install this package, but
it says that dependencies are broken. Can I install it without
affecting the whole system with unstable libs and stuff?
replaced-url
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1649 [13:19:12] <zebulon1st> Rephlexie: This is because Windows is
mostly used by non-geeks, and suddenly, MS has protections
everywhere to prevent users break their system. But eventually all
of these protections just give big problems difficult to solve. Like
this one. :P
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1652 [13:19:34] <zebulon1st> (I'm french, and I've used
google translate to help)
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1657 [13:20:15] <zebulon1st> I can do in english with computer
languages, but I'm not as good with humans... to speak about
everything else.
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1663 [13:22:50] <jelly> antoro: it depends, which debian release
are you using?
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1665 [13:23:06] <antoro> jelly, wheezy
1666 [13:23:24] <drake756596596> heeeey
1667 [13:23:28] <jelly> antoro: then no, you can't install a
sid package
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1669 [13:23:58] <drake756596596> what happen if i smoke an
operative system?
1670 [13:24:59] <Rephlexie> someone would make a wheezy joke im
guessing
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1673 [13:25:21] <bibble> lol
1674 [13:25:26] <drake756596596> looooooooooooool
1675 [13:25:29] <drake756596596> tdfw
1676 [13:25:32] <drake756596596> wtff
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1687 [13:28:22] <jelly> don't irc when high, kids
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1691 [13:28:55] <joze> arrest me
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1701 [13:35:26] <hiya> OMG how does this Gnome Boxes work?
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1703 [13:35:40] <hiya> When we have a distro in it, is it on 24x7?
1704 [13:35:44] <hiya> or can we switch it off?
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1706 [13:35:56] <Alina-malina> ok so i have a debian machine with
various of users inside it and everything working normal, so my
question is, if someone steal my HDD can he access all log files and
data if he connects that hdd of that linux to its computer and start
browsing folders etc?
1707 [13:35:57] <Meliorate> hi all, is there a native way of
removing old config (.ucf-old, .dpkg-old, etc) files? ...or are we
just expected to `find ... -exec rm {} \;` them?
1708 [13:36:49] <missmbob> Alina-malina: of course. unless you use
encryption.
1709 [13:36:50] <jelly> Alina-malina: yes. To avoid that, you need
to use disk encryption (luks is most commonly used)
1710 [13:36:50] <Meliorate> Alina-malina: yes, even if it's
encrypted (just takes a long time!)
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1713 [13:37:20] <Alina-malina> hmmmm okie thanks, i thought it is
encrypted from scratch
1714 [13:37:27] <jelly> not by default
1715 [13:37:36] <missmbob> Alina-malina: no. the installer has an
encrypted option
1716 [13:37:49] <jelly> Alina-malina: does the system ask you for
a decryption passphrase at boot, before logging in?
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1718 [13:37:57] <Alina-malina> yes, but it is installed by default
i guess, i did not do anything with encryption stuff when i install
the system
1719 [13:38:06] <Alina-malina> jelly, no it does not
1720 [13:38:13] <jelly> then you don't have luks
1721 [13:38:14] <missmbob> Alina-malina: then it's not
encrypted
1722 [13:38:27] <Alina-malina> i have some server logs, that i
want it to be private, how can i do this then? withouht doing major
encryption changes on that machine?
1723 [13:38:43] <Alina-malina> i mean if i can encrypt that
particular user perhaps?
1724 [13:39:02] <Meliorate> you can make encrypted containers
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1726 [13:39:12] <Meliorate> and mount those to the dirs you wish
to encrypt
1727 [13:39:35] <Alina-malina> Meliorate, is that possible with
particular user? to store it inside container?
1728 [13:40:00] <Meliorate> hmmm, mostly, their stuff will be in
/home/user, one would hope
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1730 [13:40:18] <Alina-malina> yes correct
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1732 [13:40:22] <Alina-malina> thats the correct location
1733 [13:40:28] <Alina-malina> thats where my logs are
1734 [13:40:37] <gebruiker> Why is using sudo better than using su
or logging in as root?
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1738 [13:41:08] <jelly> gebruiker: each of the options has their
benefits and issues.
1739 [13:41:28] <Meliorate> yea, define "better"
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1741 [13:41:53] <jelly> sudo allows for better grained
permissions, giving specific users access to specific commands
1742 [13:42:22] <gebruiker> Meliorate, of superior suitability,
advisability, desirability, acceptableness, etc.; preferable:
1743 [13:42:34] <jelly> using it to just run anything doesn't
have a lot of benefits
1744 [13:43:15] <jelly> some audit tracks, perhaps
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1747 [13:44:23] <Meliorate> when i collaborate, we usually use
sudo, just basically because you will remember your own password,
but not nescessarily the (very strong) root password
1748 [13:44:42] <Meliorate> when i work on my own, i jump in su
1749 [13:44:45] <Meliorate> *shrug*
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1753 [13:46:36] <gebruiker> alright, I want to play arround more
with ck kernel and liquorix and am curious what you all have noticed
so far as a desktop user?
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1768 [13:52:07] <ngomes> since /etc/hosts is not a file dumped
from a package, what package generates /etc/hosts on install ?
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1773 [13:55:07] <gebruiker> ngomes, packages.debian
1774 [13:55:28] <abrotman> no
1775 [13:55:34] <ngomes> gebruiker, can't understand answer
1776 [13:56:01] <gebruiker> ngomes, packages.debian has the
ability tos earch for files with deb packages. perhaps you can try
to search for /etc/hosts
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1779 [13:56:53] <ngomes> gebruiker, dpkg -S /etc/hosts , should
return matching package for this file . it returns nothing so i
guess is generated , hence the question
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1781 [13:57:06] <gebruiker> ngomes, i just readh taht it is
generated by the debian-installers
1782 [13:57:10] <gebruiker>
replaced-url
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1788 [14:02:29] <abrotman> ngomes: netbase
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1791 [14:03:26] <ngomes> abrotman, i have the package. where is
the script ?
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1794 [14:04:55] <maziar> i have debian jessie , and i have a camra
with HDMI output, and i have HDMI port in my laptop, how can i
record my camera on debian? is it possible to do it on debian? if
yes how ?
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1800 [14:08:16] <ngomes> maziar, i'm no expert with cameras ,
but i think best option is to connect the usb cable and transfer the
video file to the PC
1801 [14:09:13] <koma> Is there anyone that dare to understand why
a virtually identical module works on Centos7 but not in any debian
kernel (6,7,8,sid) nor ubuntu (12,13,14,15,16) ? I could provide
Trace and many other things
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1804 [14:10:59] <abrotman> ngomes:
/var/lib/dpkg/info/netbase.postinst probably
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1808 [14:14:05] <ngomes> abrotman, yes, looks like its there ,
thanks !
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1815 [14:17:07] <iamawesome> Anyone there?
1816 [14:17:20] <iamawesome> Some default directory from ~/ was
deleted
1817 [14:17:28] <iamawesome> Like Downloads, Documents etc
1818 [14:17:35] <iamawesome> Now how can i get back thoses?
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1820 [14:18:05] <ngomes> iamawesome, try photorec
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1825 [14:20:16] <abrotman> iamawesome: was there data in there you
wanted?
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1833 [14:23:12] <iamawesome> Yes, there were some data
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1835 [14:23:30] <iamawesome> How can i selet the only ~/ directory
to recover?
1836 [14:23:34] <iamawesome> from photorec
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1848 [14:33:23] <maziar> ngomes how should i do it for live
recording ?
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1863 [14:44:20] <yeezi> cross platform todo app with support for
ios?
1864 [14:45:22] <abrotman> Google?
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1877 [14:50:21] <bibble> Vim &
replaced-url
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1914 [15:04:48] <ByteStorm> hello guys
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1922 [15:09:37] <MaBunny> so
1923 [15:09:49] <MaBunny> i just found out my old 32gb pendrive
works
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1926 [15:10:22] <MaBunny> somehow the Grub doesnt work,need to
select this OS manually in Boot Menu
1927 [15:10:24] <MaBunny> so
1928 [15:10:47] <MaBunny> as i was saying earlier some 5 hrs ago
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1930 [15:11:54] <MaBunny> i was installing a debiann jessie on my
pendrive,but couldnt get the network manager configure the
port+dhcp+things correctly
1931 [15:12:02] <Lowl3v3l> does anybody of you run kernel 4.6 and
proprietary nvidia-driver ? does it work?
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1933 [15:12:40] <MaBunny> and while i did complete the install,the
system couldnt start up even when installing GRUB on the
pendrive....so
1934 [15:12:53] <OerHeks> Lowl3v3l, unlikely a lot of users, 4.6
is in mainline only
1935 [15:13:08] <OerHeks> !mainline
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1937 [15:13:23] <OerHeks> oops, wrong channel
1938 [15:13:41] <MaBunny> is this a problem of the fact tht i
didnt get the network setuped properly and tht the correct drivers
for my hardware werent installed on the pendrive?
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1942 [15:15:10] <bibble> MaBunny: do you want full install ?
otherwise can just 'cp deb-live.iso /dev/usb'
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1946 [15:16:29] <MaBunny> no....i have the iso on a usb,done disc
integration check and even completed the install process
1947 [15:16:52] <MaBunny> but the pendrive on which i installed
hangs on boot process
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1953 [15:18:34] <Xhaozer> hey all
1954 [15:18:57] <bibble> do other OS's boot from USB OK ?
otherwise, may need to change bios settings
1955 [15:19:09] <MaBunny> ok
1956 [15:20:16] <MaBunny> i hav only Removable as the option to
boot from
1957 [15:20:34] <MaBunny> but tht doesnt load the Grub on my
pendrive so
1958 [15:20:46] <MaBunny> had to check manually from the Boot Menu
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1962 [15:21:57] <bibble> ... and check if UEFI boot for Microsoft
1963 [15:22:10] <MaBunny> no...its not UEFI blocked
1964 [15:22:15] <bibble> cool
1965 [15:22:36] <MaBunny> im hadd used it b4 to load the GRUB on
my other pendrives
1966 [15:23:01] <MaBunny> actually im talking from tht same
computer which i tried to install on
1967 [15:23:08] <MaBunny> with a pendrive
1968 [15:23:20] <Xhaozer> lol
1969 [15:23:26] <Xhaozer> why do you keep saying pen drive
1970 [15:23:54] <MaBunny> srry i dont kno what else to say
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1972 [15:24:23] <bibble> is this the same problem ?
replaced-url
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1976 [15:25:04] <MaBunny> wait
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1981 [15:27:50] <MaBunny> yes bibble,in my case too it just blinks
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1985 [15:28:54] <MaBunny> bibble so should i use tht command on my
pendrive?
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1988 [15:29:51] <bibble> yeah, seems so. need to reinstall grub
onto the drive
1989 [15:29:58] <MaBunny> ok
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1991 [15:30:10] <MaBunny> is tht command right?
1992 [15:31:11] <bibble> yep, in Linux OS.
1993 [15:31:30] <MaBunny> ok
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1999 [15:34:59] <MaBunny> should it be /mnt ? bibble?
2000 [15:35:15] <MaBunny> im quite nervous coming to partitions n
disks
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2003 [15:37:08] <bibble> yep, or any dir you mount it to. just do
'grub-install --help' to check wether it's
'boot' or 'root' for one of the options
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2005 [15:37:43] <MaBunny> its boot
2006 [15:37:47] <bibble> cool
2007 [15:38:14] <MaBunny> but idk the last bit....
--boot-directory = /mnt
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2009 [15:38:27] <MaBunny> idk if it'll be /mnt
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2015 [15:40:03] <MaBunny> this is wht fdisk gives:
replaced-url
2016 [15:40:26] <MaBunny> should it be on one of these partitions?
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2022 [15:43:06] <bibble> I imagine you'd do 'mount
/dev/sdd /mnt' and if it didn't work, add the
'1'
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2026 [15:44:29] <MaBunny> ok...so like this:
"--boot-directory= /dev/sdd /mnt" ?
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2040 [15:49:50] <bibble> MaBunny: nah, that's just the
command to mount the usb drive. then do the grub command to install
it
2041 [15:50:05] <MaBunny> oh
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2049 [15:53:56] <MaBunny> mount: /dev/sdd is already mounted or
/mnt busy
2050 [15:54:05] <MaBunny> srry for the flooding
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2055 [15:56:27] <iamawesome> Hi, can anyone pastebin default foder
structure of home directory?
2056 [15:56:44] <iamawesome> Default contenst of ~/ directory.
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2060 [15:58:58] <MaBunny> what do i do bibble?
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2065 [15:59:40] <bibble> Seems already mounted then ? so do the
grub command in link answer
2066 [15:59:52] <MaBunny> ok
2067 [16:00:22] <bibble> iamawesome: /etc/skel has default ~/
contents
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2070 [16:01:46] <iamawesome> bibble: skel is empty
2071 [16:02:01] <iamawesome> Some of my folders are deleted from
~/ accidentaly
2072 [16:02:09] <iamawesome> I want to create foders in ~/
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2074 [16:02:21] <iamawesome> Documents/ , Desktop/ are deleted
2075 [16:02:31] <iamawesome> What else do i need to create?
2076 [16:02:55] <bibble> strange. you could create another user,
copy files, then delete that user.
2077 [16:03:24] <iamawesome> If i create a new user, that has only
Desktop/ in ~/ , nothing else
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2080 [16:04:14] <bibble> So that just means Documents/ etc you
created yourself ? or programs installed did..
2081 [16:04:38] <Klaus_Dieter> iamawesome: man hier
2082 [16:04:42] <iamawesome> I didn't create Documents/ i
don't know how it was created.
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2084 [16:05:37] <bibble> the desktop environment. gnome, KDE, etc
2085 [16:05:38] <Klaus_Dieter> iamawesome: you have some crazy
desktop environment thinking that / is a home folder of some sort.
possibly even windows if you have your / shared via cifs....
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2089 [16:05:59] <iamawesome> I mean, the user directory
2090 [16:06:06] <iamawesome> In my case it's /home/shibly/
2091 [16:06:18] <Klaus_Dieter> there is no default for ~
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2094 [16:06:32] <Klaus_Dieter> just whatever is placed in
/etc/skel
2095 [16:06:54] <iamawesome> /etc/skel/ is empty in my case now
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2098 [16:07:17] <Klaus_Dieter> iamawesome: did you list with -a?
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2100 [16:07:43] <iamawesome> .bash_logout .bashrc .profile in
/etc/skel/
2101 [16:07:45] <Klaus_Dieter> iamawesome: because this directory
seems empty on my system too, but there are three files called
.profile .bashrc and .bash_logout
2102 [16:07:50] <Klaus_Dieter> yup
2103 [16:08:00] <Klaus_Dieter> looks like the default to me
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2106 [16:09:09] <bibble> iamawesome: use the GUI settings to
create a new user, and all the environment directories will probably
be created too. like Downloads/ and such
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2111 [16:09:57] <iamawesome> bibble: Which gui setting? I tried
users-admin
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2113 [16:10:14] <iamawesome> bibble: But Downloads were not
created.
2114 [16:10:21] <iamawesome> *was not*
2115 [16:10:29] * Klaus_Dieter always uses adduser. I never understood
why some DE create directories for you
2116 [16:10:32] <iamawesome> Only Desktop/ was created.
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2124 [16:13:11] <stoffepojken> iamawesome, xdg-user-dirs-update
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2129 [16:14:02] <bibble> Ah, sounds like that might work
2130 [16:15:20] <bibble> Klaus_Dieter: and they always use first
capitals too ;_;
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2134 [16:16:33] <zebulon1st> how to join debian-next ?
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2140 [16:18:12] <jelly> zebulon1st: it's on irc.oftc.net,
different server/network
2141 [16:18:13] <iamawesome> stoffepojken: Thanks,
2142 [16:18:35] <zebulon1st> jelly: ho, ok. thx :)
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2145 [16:20:27] <iamawesome> stoffepojken: How did you know this?
2146 [16:22:12] <stoffepojken> iamawesome, I had the same problem
a couple of years ago.
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2148 [16:25:30] <stoffepojken> iamawesome, You can edit which
directorys you want in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
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2167 [16:34:58] <hiya> my system freezes when I random search for
files in Files and other search for Apps in Gnome Menu for a few
secs
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2169 [16:35:01] <hiya> What is broken?
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2173 [16:36:38] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: does it un-freeze after a
while?
2174 [16:37:04] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: or is this a complete lockup?
Have you tried letting it sit for an hour?
2175 [16:37:48] <binia> is that you hiya?
2176 [16:38:24] <zebulon1st> i tried to join debian-next, via
replaced-url
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2178 [16:38:58] <hiya> Klaus_Dieter, it does unfreeze after a
while sometimes I have to wait for more time and what i do is kill
the Files app and restart it (it does not fix the search but I can
atleast work and look for my files manually )
2179 [16:39:06] <hiya> binia, yes, how are you? you left us
2180 [16:39:20] <binia> i leave people not nice to me :P
2181 [16:39:23] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: which file system are you
using and how full is it?
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2184 [16:39:56] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: I had the same thing happen
to me on a almost completely filled btrfs and one that was almost
completely full at one time but was only at 80%
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2186 [16:40:58] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: the fs was hosed
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2189 [16:41:06] <binia> its good to seperate /home from /
2190 [16:41:33] <hiya> binia, boooo you suck
2191 [16:41:49] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: I did two things to get rid
of it: a) uninstall laptop-mode (which messes with the fs-caches)
and re-format the fs.
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2193 [16:42:09] <binia> hiya, nah
2194 [16:42:11] <binia> just wiser
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2196 [16:43:07] <hiya> Klaus_Dieter, I use LUKS encryption
(Version 1)
2197 [16:43:14] <hiya> Oh?
2198 [16:43:17] <hiya> Laptop-mode does it?
2199 [16:43:21] <Klaus_Dieter> it actually is. since then I have /
and /home on different volume groups in lvm. both are on btrfs and
lvm is on top of luks
2200 [16:43:29] <hiya> With full disk encryption what can I do?
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2202 [16:43:54] <zebulon1st> (i don't want to enter in a
conversation that is not mine, but I'm agree with binia : i
always do this way, it's wiser and safer)
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2204 [16:44:04] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: the same thing. put lvm on
top of your encrypted disk
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2206 [16:44:22] <Klaus_Dieter> create different volume groups on
there - I recommend: swap home root
2207 [16:44:28] <Klaus_Dieter> and mount those
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2209 [16:44:54] <Klaus_Dieter> also you should probably force
cryptutils into your initramfs for that to work. at least I had to
on my debian system
2210 [16:44:58] <hiya> Ok
2211 [16:45:25] <hiya> Do you thnk i5-4120U 1.7Ghz with 4GB of Ram
can handle full disk encryption?
2212 [16:45:29] <hiya> Klaus_Dieter, ^
2213 [16:45:38] <hiya> and stay powerful with Gnome
2214 [16:46:05] <binia> always is, zebulon1st
2215 [16:46:14] <hiya> of course LVM2 Physical Volume is there
Klaus_Dieter
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2218 [16:47:57] <Klaus_Dieter> hiya: I do not use gnome so I do
not know exactly. if you use aes-xts then a core i5 is defenitely
fine
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2220 [16:48:29] <hiya> Ok
2221 [16:48:45] <hiya> Klaus_Dieter, I only use w/e Debian uses as
default
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2239 [16:57:07] <stoffepojken> MaBunny, hello
2240 [16:57:24] <RoyK> EHLO
2241 [16:57:40] <iamawesome> I can't delete this:
$RECYCLE.BIN
2242 [16:57:48] <iamawesome> rm -rf $RECYCLE.BIN , doesn't do
anything
2243 [16:58:00] <iamawesome> What should i do?
2244 [16:58:04] <RoyK> rm \$RECYCLE.BIN
2245 [16:58:05] <MaBunny> hello stoffepojken
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2247 [16:58:10] <MaBunny> long name btw
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2251 [16:58:49] <RoyK> iamawesome: $something in bash means
'something' is a variable, so you need to escape that
character
2252 [17:00:26] <RoyK> MaBunny: sounds like a swedish translation
of 'stuffboy' or something ;)
2253 [17:01:11] <MaBunny> ok
2254 [17:01:35] <RoyK> or perhaps 'stuffed' :D
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2257 [17:01:51] <RoyK> I guess stoffepojken could translate it
better
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2261 [17:03:16] <stoffepojken> haha, my name is Stoffe and I am a
boy. pojke is boy in swedish
2262 [17:03:40] <RoyK> ah - I didn't know that was a name :)
2263 [17:03:59] <RoyK> but it makes sense - I'm Norwegian and
a know Swedish
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2265 [17:04:33] <stoffepojken> Nickname for Kristoffer :)
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2267 [17:05:08] <RoyK> jag förstår
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2269 [17:06:11] <stoffepojken> selvfølgelig
2270 [17:06:13] <RoyK> stoffepojken: curiously we don't have
much nicknames in Norwegian, but you swedes and the Icelandic have
tons of them
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2272 [17:07:22] <Klaus_Dieter> if I build kicad from the
src-package and I want to include the patches that were attached in
bug #820261 - is it sufficient to place them into the debian/patches
directory and run debuild?
2273 [17:07:23] <bibble> 'scp $RECYCLE.BIN
Royk@norwaybox:~'
2274 [17:07:23] <judd> Bug
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2276 [17:08:01] <stoffepojken> RoyK: You should have nicknames
because you always have two names.
2277 [17:08:25] <RoyK> stoffepojken: nah - we don't always
have two names ;)
2278 [17:08:26] <_0xbadc0de> hi
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2280 [17:08:36] <_0xbadc0de> I have Kali on vbox
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2282 [17:08:50] <_0xbadc0de> and I can only get a screen
resolution that does not cover my screen
2283 [17:08:56] <_0xbadc0de> when I full screen the thing
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2285 [17:09:17] <RoyK> _0xbadc0de: this isn't really a vbox
channel
2286 [17:09:32] <MaBunny> it must be a gui problem
2287 [17:09:47] <MaBunny> but thts true too
2288 [17:10:03] <_0xbadc0de> I already installed guest additions
2289 [17:10:27] <RoyK> perhaps try #vbox
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2298 [17:12:54] <winsen> hi a
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2300 [17:12:56] <winsen> all
2301 [17:14:38] <winsen> I am using WICD, I d' like to switch
to NM. does anyone know how to switch/enable network manager without
incident?
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2307 [17:19:31] <iamawesome> chmod +x remove.sh , doesn't
make it executable
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2309 [17:20:03] <iamawesome> remove.sh is in other partition, that
is ntfs partition, it was mounted automatically as i clicked this
partition from nautilus
2310 [17:20:32] <psichas> chmod 755 remove.sh
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2314 [17:20:51] <psichas> stat remove.sh you should see 755
2315 [17:21:15] <iamawesome> No, it doesn't work
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2318 [17:21:29] <psichas> what say stat
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2320 [17:22:22] <GoldBerg26> Hi guys i have an hp laptop i want to
install debian on it and run Torrent
2321 [17:22:34] <GoldBerg26> which version should i download
2322 [17:22:58] <iamawesome> Access: (0600/-rw-------)
2323 [17:23:18] <iamawesome> Let me umount and mount again
2324 [17:23:41] <iamawesome> No same result
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2326 [17:23:54] <iamawesome> Can't make executable in ntfs
partition
2327 [17:24:01] <psichas> yup
2328 [17:24:04] <iamawesome> But in ~/ , it works fine
2329 [17:24:06] <GoldBerg26> hi guys
2330 [17:24:22] <iamawesome> May be some permission issue
2331 [17:24:32] <Klaus_Dieter> iamawesome: did you mount ro?
2332 [17:24:34] <bibble> GoldBerg26: any are OK, suppose
2333 [17:24:55] <Klaus_Dieter> winsen: sorry I do not know how to
switch but I am interested in your reasons.
2334 [17:25:34] <iamawesome> Klaus_Dieter: I just clicked the
partition from nautilus file manager and typed the root password,
and it's automatically mounted
2335 [17:25:42] <iamawesome> I don't know if it's ro or
not
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2338 [17:26:07] <iamawesome> mount = type fuseblk
(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
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2345 [17:27:40] <psichas> chmod 711 remove.sh works?
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2350 [17:30:44] <tachikomas> GoldBerg26: run what version you
want.
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2352 [17:31:20] <iamawesome> psichas: It won't change
anything with chmod
2353 [17:31:32] <psichas> and also chmod 700?
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2358 [17:33:17] <iamawesome> ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/sda5 makes
everything executable
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2384 [17:50:05] <iamawesome> type fuseblk
(rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)
2385 [17:50:14] <iamawesome> Why is it user_id=0,group_id=0
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2388 [17:50:32] <iamawesome> I did: ntfs-3g -o
rw,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5
2389 [17:50:45] <iamawesome> uid=1000,gid=1000, not user_id=0
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2397 [17:54:37] <berty> hi it seems there are conflicts between
krita (stable) and kodi (testing)... if i install krita i must
uninstall kodi, and if i install kodi i must uninstall krita
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2400 [17:55:51] <berty> krita 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 // kodi
5:16.1-dmo3
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2407 [18:02:30] <winsen> does anyone know what is the command line
to know how many network manager I had and how much are enable such
as, NM, wicd..?
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2409 [18:03:00] <jelly> berty: packages from deb-multimedia do
tend to make a mess sometimes
2410 [18:04:09] <winsen> does anyone know what is the command line
to know how many network manager I had and how much are enable such
as, NM, wicd.. in order to avoid the conflict between them?
2411 [18:04:23] <berty> jelly: when i force the testing versione
(16.1+dfsg1-1) it seems there is the problem persist
2412 [18:04:47] <jelly> berty: don't mix stable and testing.
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2414 [18:05:06] <jelly> if you need testing switch completely to
testing
2415 [18:05:14] <berty> jelly: i use testing, but krita there
isn't there, so i'm using it from stable
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2417 [18:05:20] <berty> yes, i'm on it
2418 [18:05:21] <jelly> ,v krita
2419 [18:05:22] <judd> Package: krita on amd64 -- squeeze:
1:2.2.1-4; wheezy: 1:2.4.4-3; jessie: 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2
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2422 [18:05:40] <jelly> oh, it's not in debian any more or
it's a different name
2423 [18:05:45] <jelly> judd: bug rm krita
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2425 [18:06:00] <judd> Sorry, no removal reasons were found.
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2430 [18:08:03] <berty> maybe the problem will fix when the new
versione will be packaged...
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2432 [18:08:09] <berty> *version
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2435 [18:08:41] <mutante> berty: cant you just use testing?
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2437 [18:09:05] <berty> mutante: i'm on testing, but i need
krita, and in this moment it is only in stable
2438 [18:09:38] <mutante> i see
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2443 [18:12:09] <jelly> berty: apparently noone is maintaining
either krita or calligra in debian right now, and krita has been
split as a separate project in the meantime
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2444 [18:12:11] <berty> maybe with pinning... /etc/apt/preferences
and force stable version (5:14.2+repack-dmo1b2) for kodi
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2446 [18:12:29] <winsen> klaus_Dieter: I'll let you know if I
get the answer
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2448 [18:12:58] <mutante> berty: maybe you can get the source
package from stable, edit the "changes" file and rebuild
it yourself for stretch ...
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2450 [18:13:47] <berty> jelly: do you think it's better to
remove it?
2451 [18:14:00] <berty> mutante: first time for that
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2456 [18:14:54] <jelly> berty: if you don't need it, remove
it
2457 [18:15:12] <berty> ok, thanks
2458 [18:15:25] <jelly> !debian-next
2459 [18:15:25] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2460 [18:15:37] <jelly> ^^ the right place to ask about issues
with testing
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2462 [18:15:59] <berty> thanks :)
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2492 [18:30:45] <andril> o/
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2494 [18:30:57] <andril> is there a way to change the machine
name?
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2496 [18:31:32] <AvatarA> you mean /etc/hostname?
2497 [18:32:00] <missmbob> andril:
replaced-url
2498 [18:32:22] <andril> thanks missmbob
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2501 [18:32:56] <mutante> cant believe there is a systemd
"ctl" for changing it.. hehe
2502 [18:34:01] <missmbob> i'm surprised systemd can't
do my laundry
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2508 [18:39:03] <mutante> missmbob: *g* laundryctl
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2510 [18:39:30] <winsen> Does anyone know how to disable without
removing each of [NM /Wicd] and how to enable each of them properly?
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2513 [18:40:26] <awal1> systemctl disable network-manager.service
wicd.service / systemctl enable ... ...
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2515 [18:41:16] <winsen> awall: are you sure, that works
perfectly?
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2519 [18:43:04] <jhutchins> winsen: Why not try it and see?
2520 [18:43:27] <jhutchins> winsen: There's no guarantee for
anything you find on the internet.
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2523 [18:45:33] <winsen> jhutchins: I am asking this question
because I had twice this problem that required to use cable to fix
the problem. I've had both I'd not look for ethernet cable
to fix it.
2524 [18:46:13] <winsen> awall, jhutchins: does that make sense
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2530 [18:46:25] <winsen> ?
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2532 [18:47:20] <awal1> winsen, I guess you're running
debian+systemd. what I told you is the correct way
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2536 [18:47:57] <prussian> you might need to run systemctl stop
network-manager as well
2537 [18:48:48] <awal1> disable for disable (services not started
at boottime), enable enables the service at boot time; stop/start =
start or stop X service once your system is booted yet (check man
systemctl for more info), winsen
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2539 [18:50:48] <awal1> but, winsen, as jhutchins told you, even
if people don't give wrong info in this channel, usually, you
should check docs & manuals when you you're in the net, if
any...
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2543 [18:52:31] <winsen> awall: first time when I tried to enable
NM, it said that is masked. I run this command: "systemctl
unmask NetworkManager" unfortunetely nothing changed. I went
back to ethernet cable to fix the issue
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2545 [18:53:46] <winsen> I'll try. thanks for answering
2546 [18:54:07] <awal1> winsen, it's network-manager, not
networkmanager
2547 [18:54:23] <winsen> what is the difference?
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2552 [18:56:07] <awal1> the pkg is called n-m
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2555 [18:56:48] <winsen> however I found that command line :
replaced-url
2556 [18:56:55] <LtL> winsen: read this, re 'systemd'
search for mask.
replaced-url
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2558 [18:57:10] <mtn> actually, it is NetworkManager as far as
systemctl is concerned
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2561 [18:58:31] <boubou> hey boys
2562 [18:59:02] <boubou> how can I check if debian is compatible
for a Compaq Presario X1000 ?
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2572 [19:02:08] <mtn> boubou: you could test with a live disk.
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2575 [19:02:20] <winsen> LtL: unfortunetely it doesn't
help.anyway thanks. I'll try as awall said. we'll see
2576 [19:02:37] <awal1> mtn, right now I use wicd, but I had nm in
the past and I disable it as network-manager
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2578 [19:03:03] <boubou> mtn I install it sucessfully but when I
try to reboot it, I got some many errors and a cute kernel panic
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2581 [19:03:18] <mtn> awal1: systemctl does not recognize
network-manager
2582 [19:03:51] <mtn> boubou: you installed debian? which version
and what errors do you get when you reboot?
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2584 [19:03:52] <b6s3d> how do i install conky current
2585 [19:03:58] <b6s3d> correct *
2586 [19:04:14] <boubou> mtn, sorry, yes I installed it
2587 [19:04:25] <boubou> how can I see past errors ?
2588 [19:04:45] <awal1> mtn, probably you right, I dont remember
maybe, as I dont use it since a while
2589 [19:04:47] <boubou> how can I see old errors ?
2590 [19:04:48] <LtL> b6s3d: apt-get install conky
2591 [19:04:57] <mtn> boubou: since you can't boot it, there
is not way to look at any logs. boot again and make notes, take a
pic, etc.
2592 [19:05:16] <boubou> yes yes... it booted again
2593 [19:05:28] <boubou> the errors only happens on a shutdown
2594 [19:05:48] <mtn> boubou: so, it does boot ok and run ok?
2595 [19:06:02] <boubou> yes
2596 [19:06:09] <mtn> boubou: which version of debian?
2597 [19:06:18] <boubou> the latest
2598 [19:06:23] <boubou> 8.5
2599 [19:06:32] <boubou> jessie ?
2600 [19:06:37] <mtn> boubou: what happens when you shutdown?
2601 [19:06:49] <boubou> kerrnel panic
2602 [19:06:55] <mtn> boubou: what kernel panic?
2603 [19:07:04] <boubou> with calltrace etc
2604 [19:07:17] <boubou> how can I check it remotely ?
2605 [19:07:31] <mtn> boubou: please give us the exact error.
again, you can take notes or a pic. paste the pic to imgur.com
2606 [19:07:32] <boubou> dmesg ?
2607 [19:07:40] <boubou> ok
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2611 [19:08:05] <boubou> when I will go to my office, I will give
it for sure
2612 [19:08:32] <mtn> boubou: no private messages. take here in
the channel.
2613 [19:08:37] <mtn> boubou: To aim your comments at someone,
type the first few letters of their nick and hit the tab key.
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2615 [19:08:49] <boubou> lol
2616 [19:08:52] <boubou> ok
2617 [19:09:01] <boubou> are u a debian dev ?
2618 [19:09:09] <mtn> boubou: no, just an user
2619 [19:09:13] <boubou> ok
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2643 [19:20:22] <deb> hmm in debian 8, how to disable pure-ftpd
service?
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2650 [19:21:01] <psichas> servce <service name> stop
2651 [19:21:04] <psichas> ?
2652 [19:21:15] <psichas> service name stop try
2653 [19:21:46] <deb> disable like from boot up
2654 [19:22:18] <deb> not just stop, i want to prevent to start in
every boot up ever
2655 [19:22:19] <mutante> servicectl --global disable pure-ftpd ?
2656 [19:22:40] <deb> mutante, let me try, thanks
2657 [19:23:11] <deb> mutante, servicectl is not a valid command
2658 [19:23:15] <b6s3d> hi can you help me?
replaced-url
2659 [19:23:25] <mutante> deb: sorry, systemctl
2660 [19:23:55] <deb> mutante, thanks, booting up
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2662 [19:24:22] <mutante> the --global part should mean "for
all users"
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2667 [19:26:26] <deb> mutante, didn't work, after reboot ps
aux still shows root 1359 0.0 0.4 44808 4296 ? Ss 12:25 0:00
pure-ftpd (SERVER)
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2669 [19:27:08] <mutante> deb: is there a file like
/etc/init.d/pure-ftpd ?
2670 [19:27:11] <mutante> or similar
2671 [19:27:27] <mutante> how about removing the package if you
dont want it anyways
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2698 [19:47:39] <hadesistan> hi
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2710 [19:58:17] <hiya> Upgrading to testing, scared
2711 [19:58:18] <hiya> :P
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2720 [20:05:03] <missmbob> hiya: keep in mind for testing support
you want to go to #debian-next on oftc
2721 [20:05:06] <Klaus_Dieter> apparently debuild is really not
applying the patches that are in ./patches directory of an apt-src
tree.
2722 [20:05:12] <Klaus_Dieter> what do I have to do to apply it?
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2724 [20:06:34] <hiya> missmbob, Ok
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2734 [20:13:48] <winsen> awall: I pm you
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2779 [20:42:53] <awal1> winsen, better ask in room if you have any
question
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communist
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2809 [20:59:04] <awal1> missbob, :D
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2813 [21:02:12] <mazert> hello, i would like to know how to
upgrade my opengl version from 2.1 to 3.* at least. I've got an
intel graphic card
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2816 [21:03:15] <somiaj> mazert: whih intel graphics card?
2817 [21:03:24] <somiaj> mazert: I assume you are running
debian-jessie?
2818 [21:03:34] <mazert> in the doc, i've seen we can install
non-free intel driver but it is not so easy :
replaced-url
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2820 [21:04:20] <winsen> awall: how to know if wicd or NM is
working or not?
2821 [21:04:24] <mazert> somiaj: i'm using sid, my graphic
card model is : Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated
Graphics Controller
2822 [21:04:27] <somiaj> I would just use the intel driver and
kernel from jessie-backports if you want a newer intel driver for
your card.
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2824 [21:04:45] <winsen> awall: by command line for example
2825 [21:04:51] <somiaj> mazert: if you are running sid, you
should have the newest drivers/open gl debian has to offer.
2826 [21:05:19] <somiaj> winsen: ps fax <-- that will list all
running processes, look for wicd or the network manager daemon and
see if any is running
2827 [21:05:35] <arha> what is -f?
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2830 [21:06:35] <mazert> somiaj: maybe i've got some missing
packages so, on my computers i've this output on my glxinfo :
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2831 [21:06:44] <somiaj> arha: full-format listing, it makes it
tree out nicely
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2834 [21:07:34] <somiaj> ,v libgl1-mesa
2835 [21:07:35] <judd> No package named 'libgl1-mesa'
was found in amd64.
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2837 [21:07:47] <somiaj> ,v libgl1-mesa-glx
2838 [21:07:48] <judd> Package: libgl1-mesa-glx on amd64 --
squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-backports:
7.10.3-4~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy:
8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports:
11.1.3-1~bpo8+1; sid: 11.2.2-1; stretch: 11.2.2-1; experimental:
12.0.1-3
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2840 [21:08:15] <somiaj> mazert: I don't know mesa well
enough to konw what version you will need to get opengl 3 version.
2841 [21:08:32] <somiaj> mazert: but it looks like you are running
the newest version of mesa in sid, 11.2.2
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2844 [21:10:08] <jelly> mazert, that sounds like rather old
hardware, what CPU model is in there?
2845 [21:10:12] <mazert> somiaj: yes, i've already this
package installed.
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2847 [21:10:51] <mazert> somiaj: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400
@ 3.00GHz
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2849 [21:11:33] <mazert> yes you are right, maybe the graphic card
is not too good to run higher version of opengl
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2852 [21:12:37] <somiaj> yea core2 duo seem like quite old cpu to
me
2853 [21:12:52] <mazert> but i was thinking about drivers from
intel, they provide package for fedora and ubuntu only, but i'm
not sure if it is the good way to follow
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2857 [21:13:09] <mazert>
replaced-url
2858 [21:13:22] <somiaj> mazert: you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
or /home/username/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log if using startx and
see what the log says about the hardware and why it is using open gl
version 2.1
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2867 [21:16:56] <mazert> somiaj: hmm i do not have any log files
on these paths,
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2869 [21:17:30] <somiaj> mazert: you don't have any log files
in /var/log?
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2873 [21:17:49] <mazert> somiaj: only xorg logs
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2875 [21:17:52] <somiaj> mazert: what desktop are you running and
how do you login?
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2877 [21:18:14] <mazert> xorgs log are missing i meant
2878 [21:18:29] <mazert> gnome3.20, login with gdm
2879 [21:19:08] <winsen2> awall:
replaced-url
2880 [21:19:47] <somiaj> mazert: so you don't have any xorg
logs, that is strange. Though I think gnome is using waylend now and
since I don't use gnome or waylend I'm unsure what if any
role xorg and the logs would play
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2882 [21:20:17] <winsen2> awal1:
replaced-url
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2889 [21:22:18] <missmbob> somiaj: not yet
2890 [21:22:20] <winsen2> somiaj: sorry, I was confused,
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2891 [21:22:22] <mazert> somiaj: yes I have the coice to run under
xorg or wayland with gdm.
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2897 [21:23:37] <mazert> somiaj: I've read now gnome put xorg
logs in ssytemd
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2900 [21:23:50] <winsen2> somiaj: however I stopped wicd service
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2908 [21:25:19] <somiaj> winsen2: looks like you are now running
network-manager (not wicd). Unsure what your original issue/problem
is though.
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2911 [21:27:26] <winsen2> somiaj: from 390 to 393?
2912 [21:28:09] <somiaj> winsen2: I see the NetworkManager process
running (line 53) and the nm-applet running (line 76)
2913 [21:28:19] <somiaj> winsen2: the numbers you are reporting
are the process id
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2915 [21:29:05] <winsen2> somiaj: In fact I installed both NM and
wicd. let's try when I launch wincd at the same what should
appear?
2916 [21:29:45] <winsen2> somiaj: thanks for the explanation. what
would happen if I stop NM and wicd?
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2918 [21:30:20] <somiaj> winsen2: you may have to reconfigure your
network, but you can switch from netowrk manager to wicd.
2919 [21:30:37] <somiaj> winsen2: if you have both of them
installed you may have to use systemctl to control which gets loaded
at boot or you can just remove network-manager
2920 [21:30:44] <mazert> i've finally found the xorg log but
nothing interesting about opengl. Well, I think i'll buy a
better graphic card to solve this problem
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2929 [21:33:49] <winsen2> somiaj: I used "systemctl disable
wicd.service" but once I reboot the machine I got error message
about wicd saying that I don't have access to internet!?
however NM was already installed.
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2934 [21:34:31] <theviajerock> Hi..
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2938 [21:35:22] <theviajerock> Can somebody help me please?
I'm playing with LXC... I'm trying to see a web app from
another computer through nat
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2940 [21:35:29] <theviajerock> But it doesn't work
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2942 [21:35:44] <somiaj> winsen2: that would have disabled wicd
and made it so nm manager loaded, if you want wicd, enable wicd and
disable network manager
2943 [21:35:52] <winsen2> somiaj: what does line 53 means and line
76?
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2950 [21:36:17] <somiaj> winsen2: that just lists the name of the
process that is running
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2952 [21:36:39] <somiaj> winsen2: i.e. line 53 says the process
/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon is running (as if you ran it
from the command line)
2953 [21:36:41] <winsen2> somiaj: yes that's what I did but I
had error message saying that I have no internet access.
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2955 [21:37:13] <somiaj> winsen2: line 76 says that your
x-session-manager has also loaded the command nm-applet
2956 [21:37:25] <winsen2> ok thanks
2957 [21:37:31] <somiaj> winsen2: unsure exactly, I'm not
that familar with either nm or wicd, I just use
/etc/network/interfaces to configure my network.
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2959 [21:38:10] <winsen2> somiaj: If I stop both. what would
happend?
2960 [21:38:28] <somiaj> winsen2: then you would have to configure
your network by hand or using another tool
2961 [21:38:40] <somiaj> winsen2: may rule with network is
don't use multiple tools to manage it, just use the one you
like
2962 [21:39:10] <awal1> winsen2, so easy to play with nm and wicd
services. run systemctl -all | less and earch for NetworkManager and
wicd services using /
2963 [21:39:32] <awal1> paste the output of systemctl status wicd
NetworkManager
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2966 [21:41:02] <psichas> not here on pastebin.com website
2967 [21:41:21] <winsen2> somiaj: If I stoped both.
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2968 [21:41:44] <winsen2> awal1: what is the command line?
2969 [21:42:40] <awal1> winsen2, forget ps. just execute in
terminal, as regular user the following: systemctl status wicd
NetworkManager
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2971 [21:44:39] <awal1> ...
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2975 [21:45:30] <psichas> hard mission ;)
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2978 [21:45:57] <awal1> winsen2,for disable nm and wicd services
just execute as ROOT: systemctl disable wicd.service
NetworkManager.service
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2981 [21:47:44] <winsen2> somiaj, awal1:
replaced-url
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2985 [21:48:46] <s7r> no CVE for the TCP off-path attack
discovered in linux kernels > 3.6? I am subscribed to the list
but didn't see anything
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2987 [21:49:22] <winsen2> somiaj, awal1: I stoped both so normally
it should show that. right?
2988 [21:49:36] <awal1> winsen2, NetworkManager not Manage ^ ^
2989 [21:50:01] <winsen2> what does that mean? both are stopped nm
and wicd right?
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2991 [21:50:39] <awal1> and remove or disable
network-manager-gnome and wicd-daemon.py from being launched when
you login in X
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2993 [21:51:09] <winsen2> so now my machine is using basically
"etc/network.interfaces"?
2994 [21:51:14] <awal1> remove network-manager and disable
wicd-daemon.py ^
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2997 [21:52:22] <awal1> sorry, I meant remove
notwork-manager-gnome and disable wicd-daemon.py ^
2998 [21:52:40] <awal1> or just disable them
2999 [21:52:55] <somiaj> s7r: do you mean CVE or DSA, if you can
figure out the CVE you can use the debian security tracker to see
the status of that CVE in debian (the DSA only annouces fixed
issues)
3000 [21:53:00] <winsen2> awal1: why should I do that? I am just
trying to understand how things work
3001 [21:53:16] <s7r> somiaj: sorry my bad, DSE
3002 [21:53:19] <s7r> DSA*
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3004 [21:53:42] <jelly> s7r: a CVE was assigned: CVE-2016-5696
3005 [21:54:06] <s7r> no fix yet? wheezy and jessie are vulnerable
afaik
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3007 [21:54:22] <jelly> there's a known workaround, apply it
if you have services exposed
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3009 [21:54:32] <jelly> wheezy is on 3.2-based kernel
3010 [21:54:38] <somiaj> s7r:
replaced-url
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3012 [21:55:13] <awal1> winsen2, sorry, me I must leave now. you
wanted to disable nm and wicd and I already told you what to do. if
you dont understood , ask again and other people will help you maybe
better
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3017 [21:57:19] <s7r> oh, the fix is here
replaced-url
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3019 [21:57:46] <jasabella> i just changed my system locale, short
of reinstalling the system, is there an easy way to update all my
packages to this new locale?
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3022 [21:57:57] <jasabella> (removed the old locale too)
3023 [21:58:01] <AutisticH1TL3R> Hello
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3025 [21:58:42] <winsen2> awal1: now I started wicd and stopped
nm:
replaced-url
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3029 [21:59:53] <winsen2> somiaj, awal1: normally it seems ok. I
can see wicd started but I can not see nm stopped?
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3033 [22:00:40] <winsen2> somiaj: are you still there?
3034 [22:00:52] <AutisticH1TL3R> winsen2: the Jew is gone.
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3036 [22:01:06] <AutisticH1TL3R> It died of fart gas poisoning in
a gas chamber where it farted
3037 [22:01:21] <winsen2> AutisticH1TL3R: who is the jew? :)
3038 [22:01:34] <AutisticH1TL3R> Whoever you were talking to, I
presume
3039 [22:01:53] <winsen2> AutisticH1TL3R: you're funny dude
3040 [22:01:58] <AutisticH1TL3R> Jews invented the Uzi to kill
Germans. That makes them evil. So we make them eat farts
3041 [22:02:04] <LtL> winsen2: don't feed trolls
3042 [22:02:23] <AutisticH1TL3R> LtL, where is the troll? We can
kill it, in a fart gas chamber!
3043 [22:02:25] <winsen2> LtL: what are you talking about?
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3047 [22:04:05] <AutisticH1TL3R> LtL, are you a jew?
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3050 [22:04:49] <winsen2> LtL: do you feel targeted?
3051 [22:04:55] <LtL> !op AutisticH1TL3R nazi wannabe trolling
3052 [22:04:58] <LtL> winsen2: no
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3054 [22:05:05] <AutisticH1TL3R> LtL, don't do this
3055 [22:05:08] <LtL> !ops AutisticH1TL3R nazi wannabe trolling
3056 [22:05:08] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ltl complains
about: AutisticH1TL3R nazi wannabe trolling
3057 [22:05:10] <Exagone313> please ignore trolls
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3061 [22:05:17] <a7x> AutisticH1TL3R, no mass spam please.
3062 [22:05:19] <AutisticH1TL3R> Drop the Uzi and stop being a
Jew.
3063 [22:05:25] <AutisticH1TL3R> a7x: are you a jew too?
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3066 [22:06:10] <Rust3dCor3> i order a glass oj juice
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3068 [22:06:18] <Rust3dCor3> not gas the jews
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3073 [22:07:21] <Rust3dCor3> i think that my flat sense of humor
discouraged him
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3092 [22:18:17] <winsen2> LtL: EVERYONE has the right to live.
Jews race doesn't exist. Jewish are believers as christians,
muslims...etc. If you are believer in Judaism than you are Jewish
full stop. Stop trolling with Jewish race.
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3099 [22:22:23] <Hi||ary> "useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd;
try again later."
3100 [22:22:26] <Hi||ary> what is going on here?
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3106 [22:26:06] <joze> is your filesystem mounted read only?
3107 [22:26:14] <joze> or it's trumps fault
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3218 [23:24:55] <jelly> dc_1989_chatlog, are you a person?
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3269 [23:48:10] <vboxuser> good day everyone
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3272 [23:48:32] <vboxuser> maybe somebody can help me out
3273 [23:48:39] <vboxuser> I have a weird problem with my debian
guests in virtualbox
3274 [23:48:47] <vboxuser> it seems to be addressed here
3275 [23:48:47] <vboxuser>
replaced-url
3276 [23:48:51] <vboxuser> but that is from 2010
3277 [23:49:01] <vboxuser> and the files they talk about are not
inside my guest jessies
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3280 [23:49:34] <vboxuser> basically I have a working VM internal
network -> export to .ova > re-import and the networking stops
working
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3282 [23:49:59] <vboxuser> over at #vbox they told me to ask
around here :)
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3284 [23:50:21] <vboxuser> how can i re-initalitze networking to
accept the new macs?
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3289 [23:52:09] <jelly> vboxuser, which debian release?
3290 [23:52:11] <jelly> !70
3291 [23:52:11] <dpkg> udev has the ability to statically rename
Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, edit this file to change
the mappings. To apply changes: «udevadm trigger» or
reload the relevant driver module. See also <udev>.
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3294 [23:53:00] <jelly> jessie, right
3295 [23:53:37] <vboxuser> I am on jessie
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3299 [23:54:13] <vboxuser> removing
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules should solve it
3300 [23:54:19] <vboxuser> but
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules doesn't exist in the
first place
3301 [23:54:44] <vboxuser> and it worked for month...exporting my
VM's and reimproting on a headless server or another system and
it just worked
3302 [23:54:50] <vboxuser> suddenly I have these problems :(
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3304 [23:56:20] <jhutchins> vboxuser: What if you remove the vnic
then re-add it.
3305 [23:56:50] <jelly> vboxuser, what kind of symptom do you
actually see? Do dmesg and "ip l" show any interfaces?
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3310 [23:57:52] <vboxuser> ifconfig shows eth0 as usual
3311 [23:58:01] <vboxuser> but I cannot ping
3312 [23:58:05] <vboxuser> no packets go through
3313 [23:58:12] <vboxuser> the 2nd vm is the gateway
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3315 [23:58:20] <jhutchins> vboxuser: syslog & dmesg
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3317 [23:58:34] <vboxuser> in the working VM's i can ping the
main machine on 10.152.152.12
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3319 [23:58:42] <vboxuser> one sec
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