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1 [00:00:15] <jhutchins> Yeah, possibly something a web app
might tell you, or gnome-characters, or ruby-character-set
2 [00:00:26] <qman__> well, first you need to determine what
characters you're looking to display - if you don't know
or you just want the most/a large amount, try this one
replaced-url
3 [00:00:43] <qman__> from there you can search the archive for
a package containing that font name
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5 [00:01:01] <berndj> i think i already have a fairly good
spanning set, because i rarely encounter the generic hex boxes
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10 [00:01:53] <jhutchins> berndj: Possibly play around with
installing likely xfont* packages.
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13 [00:02:47] <agio> this looks like it will work
14 [00:02:50] <agio>
replaced-url
15 [00:03:27] <agio> install the package python-fontconfig
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17 [00:04:11] <jhutchins> agio: I see some emoji stuff in ruby
too.
18 [00:04:39] <agio> ah, actually it looks like it will only
match chars to installed ttf fonts
19 [00:05:24] <jhutchins> I used to really be into fonts.
Published a magazine, worked for a newspaper. I have a three-ring
binder full of printed font sets.
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26 [00:07:26] <agio> does any one else run the standalone
firefox from mozilla.org? Im having a serious problem with it
bringing my X server to a crawl
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42 [00:18:15] <gordonfish> I have a question about
replaced-url
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45 [00:21:08] <gordonfish> I'm setting my stick up with
grub2 instead of syslinux (grub-install --force --no-floppy
--boot-directory=/mnt/USB/boot /dev/sdb) and I want to also be able
to boot other things too.
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161 [01:59:42] <vmrod25> hi team I am new in debian and I am
trying to build a .deb. I am using pdebuild --use-pdebuild-internal
but I have dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: Unmet build dependencies:
<name of my local dep>. Is there any way to tell pdebuild
please use this local directory as repo for your build time
dependencies ?
162 [01:59:46] <vmrod25> thanks
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201 [02:28:45] <jetscreamer> acquire pdiffs false not working in
buster?
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207 [02:32:11] <jetscreamer> ahh
208 [02:32:14] <jetscreamer> !botsnack
209 [02:32:14] <dpkg> jetscreamer: aw, gee
210 [02:32:42] <jetscreamer> old way no workie
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238 [03:03:12] <bunni> Anyone here deal with the Debian cross
toolchains? Have a specific need for Debian Jessie x86 to have cross
compiler for armhf. This has worked in the past:
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283 [03:39:23] <agio> hi, does anyone use PHP with debian? are
there doc's or guides available for installing and configuring
php? e.g adding extensions etc?
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285 [03:43:05] <Blondie101010>
replaced-url
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289 [03:47:40] <agio> hah, what is that lmgtfy.com website
290 [03:47:44] <agio> ?
291 [03:48:01] <Blondie101010> can't you open a link?
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294 [03:49:07] <jcb2016> Blondie101010: you have to be less
obvious with the lmgtfy websites. you have to hide it in some url
shortner so people don't see it
295 [03:49:11] <jcb2016> :D
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304 [03:55:53] <ArchDebian> I have an Optimus Laptop (a laptop
with 2 video cards: Intel & Nvidia). Is a good idea to install
Bumblebee and switch between the cards, or is better just install
nvidia drivers and only use this video card?
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316 [04:06:16] <Voldenet> ArchDebian: well, I've never used
it, but theoretically intel card eats a lot less energy
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318 [04:06:49] <Voldenet> I'd test both ways and see if the
power usage is really that different though
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323 [04:10:30] <ArchDebian> Voldenet: yes, but I don't use
my battery so much... maybe just use nvidia 100% of the time is
better... tks
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325 [04:11:09] <Voldenet> I'm pretty sure it's a lot
less hassle if you don't use the battery much
326 [04:11:56] <ArchDebian> yes, you are right... the switch
process is a little complicate
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330 [04:15:59] <Ascavasaion> i am trying to get my Broadcom
wireless NIC to work. I have installed firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
and apt detects the card, but it is telling me "Connecting to
downloads.openwrt.org
(downloads.openwrt.org)|2a01:4f8:202:43ea::2|:80... connected. HTTP
request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently" AND
then "Connecting to sources.openwrt.org
(sources.openwrt.org)|2a01:4f8:202:43ea::3|:80... connected. HTTP
request
331 [04:15:59] <Ascavasaion> sent, awaiting response... 404 Not
Found 2019-03-06 11:09:27 ERROR 404: Not Found."
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333 [04:16:14] <Ascavasaion> anyone with a heads-up please?
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338 [04:23:09] <Voldenet> Ascavasaion: `apt update` maybe
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340 [04:23:22] <Ascavasaion> Voldenet, Tried that
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345 [04:24:25] <friendofafriend> Do you see the URL its
requesting?
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347 [04:25:42] <Ascavasaion> Yes, I think... its in my first
message, downloads.openwrt.org and sources.openwrt.org
348 [04:25:58] <friendofafriend> That's just a domain name,
do you have the entire URL?
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350 [04:26:23] <Ascavasaion>
replaced-url
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352 [04:26:47] <Ascavasaion>
replaced-url
353 [04:26:54] <Ascavasaion> Those two URL's
354 [04:27:00] <friendofafriend> It's here.
replaced-url
355 [04:28:12] <Ascavasaion> friendofafriend, Oh, awesome! thank
you. do I extract it into /lib/firmware?
356 [04:28:56] <friendofafriend> According to this, it does
appear that way.
replaced-url
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361 [04:36:04] <Ascavasaion> so I just extract the directory into
/lib/firmware and then? Reboot?
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363 [04:38:23] <hanasaki> ideas how to debug a kvm VM times out
getting a dhcp IP from a bridge on the host?
364 [04:38:45] <friendofafriend> Ascavasaion: Article
doesn't say that, I don't think.
365 [04:38:51] <Voldenet> no idea, but i'd try tcpdump
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367 [04:39:15] <Ascavasaion> friendofafriend, Then I am
stumped...because the second link you gave is dealing with deb
packages, and I downloaded a compressed source
368 [04:39:51] <hanasaki> Voldenet: could you help with the usage
of tcdump please?
369 [04:39:58] <Voldenet> Oh wait, it's a timeout
370 [04:40:15] <Voldenet> hmmm, hanasaki: are you sure kvm is
connected to your dhcp server?
371 [04:40:27] <Voldenet> i'd try using static ip
372 [04:40:53] <hanasaki> Voldenet: yes. connected I think so .
howto verify?
373 [04:41:10] <friendofafriend> Ascavasaion: Right, it appears
you'd install the b43-fwcutter package, that archive, and then
untar the archive and in its directory run "sudo b43-cutter -w
/lib/firmware ./linux/wl_apsta.o".
374 [04:41:41] <Voldenet> hanasaki: just configure the machine
inside with static ip and check if you can ping the router
┐(´～`；)┌
375 [04:42:00] <Voldenet> (it's not failsafe, your router
could ignore icmp pings)
376 [04:42:05] <Voldenet> (but it may work)
377 [04:42:11] <Voldenet> (and it's just an idea xP)
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379 [04:43:52] <hanasaki> pciehp .... failed to check link status
in syslog
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381 [04:47:29] <pagetelegram> how do I use coalesce option for
imagemagick convert command (Or other option) to layer a sequence of
images as layers in a new image (ie tiff)?
382 [04:47:40] <pagetelegram> I don't want to flatten
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385 [04:53:32] <Ascavasaion> friendofafriend, It is detecting the
card now. It connects... but unable to ping internal network,
router, or external... as in Internet. Going to try a reboot
386 [04:54:08] <friendofafriend> Ascavasaion: Sure, reboot is
probably a good move. Then you can check dmesg.
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401 [04:59:55] <Ascavasaion> friendofafriend, It seems to be
working, thank you
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403 [05:00:43] <friendofafriend> You're very welcome, happy
to hear it. Good luck to you, Ascavasaion.
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427 [05:14:45] <pagetelegram> looks like -adjoin though not sure
to put before or after....been faxing out a lot of black pages doing
all this testing and my toner I'm afriad may run out by the
time I figure this out.
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440 [05:31:05] <pagetelegram> what is watchdog MPI cpu0 lockup
errors in kernel....been getting those lately? Is it a sign of a
dying processor?
441 [05:31:26] <pagetelegram> kernel:[287360.230596] NMI
watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 0
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443 [05:33:58] <pagetelegram> I've had this laptop running
24x7 for almost a month....these kernel errors mean I should give it
a rest for a night?
444 [05:35:11] <dvs> I don't think laptops were meant to run
for so long.
445 [05:35:51] <gigoplast> agree with @dvs
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448 [05:36:22] <gigoplast> the SBD too
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454 [05:37:23] <gigoplast> from who you hide @in1t3r
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456 [05:38:32] <gigoplast> i guess a little mess with cnx
§§
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461 [05:40:18] <gigoplast> who has dnscrypt-proxy running i need
to know something about ?
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468 [05:48:01] <pagetelegram> I am wondering if multi-image tiffs
for faxing are rather a montage than a layered coalesce. Anyone
know? This maybe why I keep faxing out black.
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474 [05:53:16] <themill> pagetelegram: normally a tiff stack but
there are so many different ways of putting data into a tiff
it's not funny.
475 [05:54:15] <pagetelegram> the -append option I will try next.
That stacks the images from top to bottom
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477 [05:54:52] <pagetelegram> It seems I have to do this in two
convert commands, doing it in one line still produces images for
every page.
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480 [06:01:01] <themill> I'm not sure what the encapsulated
data format is for faxes though. Presumably B&W not greyscale.
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491 [06:10:51] <xormor> what can you discover about my site?
--> dyt4nxhyy7scgbtjq-r2t-4.rev.dnainternet.fi
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494 [06:17:16] <pagetelegram> I got the encapsulated data format
correct, using the G3:filename.tiff arguement, so I got it almost
working. 4 four page tiff faxes as one and a quarter page. Not sure
what else to look into. Stumpt. Though I made progress. No more
blank pages. I decided to conver to G3 at the very end of the image
conversions.
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496 [06:17:46] <pagetelegram> *no more black pages I mean
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498 [06:18:22] <pagetelegram> And I wrote my batch program to
preview the file first before faxing using framebufferimage (fbi)
499 [06:18:59] <pagetelegram> Still a lot of progress I want to
get done with my batch program, just awaiting until I can get over
these faxing stumpts.
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502 [06:20:16] <pagetelegram> Also efax command does not see the
multimage tiff as multipage....which maybe part of the issue. It
sees it as just one image. Going to look over if I can specifiy page
count with efax command
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516 [06:30:30] <pagetelegram> hmmm can;t find anything. going to
try postscript methods. postscript does raster or is that vector
only? I'll find out.
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530 [06:43:49] <pagetelegram> ps files just printed out as
text....looking for more flags to use to get this working...
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538 [06:49:16] <pagetelegram> oh I need to use the fax command
for ps files....all these times I thought using efax was an easier
program....fax it is. testing in a few....arguments are different.
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549 [06:54:10] <pagetelegram> I wonder how fax does not have
argument for com port dev specification....going to try it anyhow.
New horizon perhaps
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554 [06:56:59] <pagetelegram> just as I thought fax command
opening the wrong tty port. hmmm
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579 [07:20:31] <pagetelegram> Dang how do I get fax command to go
to ttyS0 port keeps going to ttyS1, or can I do some alias trick?
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586 [07:26:00] <jelly> pagetelegram: surely there's a config
file of some sort somewhere, perhaps part of the package?
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591 [07:30:35] <gigoplast> if any one interested to morning
crypto-news | >>>
replaced-url
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599 [07:34:39] <pagetelegram> So how do I tell fax command to
pick a different port. It uses config file ~/.efaxrc and I
don't know what arguments to put there.
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603 [07:35:43] <pagetelegram> I figured it out....in the rc file
just put the efax command with the arguments you want. Then fax
command does the rest
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615 [07:46:30] <Kurogane> Hi, anyone can tell me with experience
if RAID 1 i gain read performace? somebody say no and other say yes
so i don't not really what is the case.
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714 [09:06:14] <Fox> Kurogane: Raid 1 read occurs on the most
responsive disk in the array
715 [09:06:42] <Fox> read performance could increase, but
that's not totally sure
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723 [09:08:48] <tomreyn> it'd surely help with (overall)
read performance if you had a raid-1 spun across storages of
different types, or just brands, such as an ssd (or sshd) and an
hdd.
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732 [09:09:49] <vlt> Hello. `journalctl --list-boots` only lists
one line. How to view the journal of previous boots?
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741 [09:19:31] <munchywok> edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf add
"Storage=persistent" restart systemd-journald then
journalctl -b 1 first boot (2 second boot,3 third etc. or 0 = last
boot, -1 boot before last,-2 boot 2nd before last etc.) for other
boots
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769 [09:42:04] <GNU\colossus> is there a utility that can tell me
wheter or not I have booted the most recently installed kernel
image? (like like `checkrestart` from debian-goodies can do for
processes that have outdated shared libs loaded)
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774 [09:46:46] <hwm4rgs> GNU\colossus: `needrestart` does this
775 [09:46:54] <ArlequInOut> GNU\colossus, see kernel versions in
/boot and compare to "uname -r"
776 [09:47:03] <hwm4rgs> it also checks services like what you
describe
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784 [09:50:39] <GNU\colossus> hwm4rgs, thanks!
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835 [10:17:21] <vedranm> why does dkms on 686 recommend only PAE
kernel headers?
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837 [10:19:37] <jelly> vedranm: there aren't any other
builds any more?
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839 [10:19:56] <vedranm> jelly: there is also non-PAE kernel
still
840 [10:20:01] <jelly> nope
841 [10:20:09] <jelly> not in stretch there ain't
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845 [10:20:54] <jelly> oh, I'm wrong
846 [10:21:05] <vedranm> both in stretch and buster there is
non-PAE kernel
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849 [10:21:15] <vedranm> I need non-PAE for this particular
appliance
850 [10:21:20] <jelly> so install it.
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852 [10:21:35] <vedranm> I did, I'm just curious why dkms
automaticall pulled the wrong headers
853 [10:21:41] <jelly> you want to install headers matching the
actual running kernel anyway
854 [10:21:52] <jelly> ,recommends dkms
855 [10:21:53] <judd> Package dkms in stretch/amd64 --
recommends: fakeroot, sudo, linux-headers-686-pae |
linux-headers-amd64 | linux-headers-generic | linux-headers,
lsb-release.
856 [10:21:53] <vedranm> I did
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858 [10:22:23] <vedranm> exactly, it should be something like
linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-686
...
859 [10:22:24] <jelly> apparently it pulled those because you did
not have any headers installed in advance
860 [10:22:30] <jelly> it IS
861 [10:22:41] <vedranm> wait
862 [10:22:51] <vedranm> something like linux-headers-686-pae |
linux-headers-amd64 | linux-headers-686 ...
863 [10:23:06] <vedranm> and it's linux-headers-686-pae |
linux-headers-amd64 | (no 686 non-PAE) ...
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866 [10:23:19] <jelly> if you'd used aptitude
you'd've been able to coerce it to satisfy the alternative
dependency with a different package
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868 [10:23:49] <jelly> ,provides linux-headers-686
869 [10:23:49] <vedranm> I did and linux-headers-686 doesn't
have reverse dep on dkms, while linux-headers-686-pae does
870 [10:23:49] <judd> No package named
'linux-headers-686' was found in stretch/amd64.
871 [10:23:53] <vedranm> I'll just open a bug
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873 [10:24:35] <jelly> ,whatprovides linux-headers --arch i386
874 [10:24:46] <judd> No packages provide
'linux-headers' in stretch/i386.
875 [10:24:51] <jelly> ,whatprovides linux-headers-generic --arch
i386
876 [10:24:55] <judd> No packages provide
'linux-headers-generic' in stretch/i386.
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879 [10:25:36] <jelly> that's the real issue, those virtual
packages fail to exist at all. Enumerating every possible build in
dkms is probably silly.
880 [10:26:05] <jelly> ,recommends dkms --arch i386
881 [10:26:06] <judd> Package dkms in stretch/i386 -- recommends:
fakeroot, sudo, linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-amd64 |
linux-headers-generic | linux-headers, lsb-release.
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884 [10:26:43] <jelly> not even linux-headers-amd64 exists in
i386 any more
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886 [10:28:30] <vedranm> oh really
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889 [10:29:16] <vedranm> indeed, you're right
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892 [10:29:49] <vedranm> so the bug exists
replaced-url
893 [10:30:03] <vedranm> and it's exactly the same use case
that I have
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905 [10:36:03] <jelly> good thing it's only a Recommends,
eh?
906 [10:37:26] <jelly> vedranm: still worth reporting that the
same issuse is Found: 2.3-2
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1036 [11:49:55] <bony> unstable with 4.19.20-1 kernel
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1054 [11:58:47] <JonTargaryen> hello
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1056 [11:59:04] <JonTargaryen> i'm new to linux and any
distro of it, and i'm willing to learn it
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1058 [11:59:36] <JonTargaryen> i've downloaded the 3.4GB iso
of debian 9 and burnt it on a DVD, and trying to install it on a
laptop
1059 [11:59:46] <JonTargaryen> it stops giving the error
1060 [12:00:13] <JonTargaryen> failed to create a file system the
ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda)
failed
1061 [12:00:22] <JonTargaryen> can anyone help me solve this
error?
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1063 [12:01:04] <JonTargaryen> i've tried googling it, but
nothing i can understand helped
1064 [12:01:23] <cusco> JonTargaryen: there were ome options on
where to install debian
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1066 [12:01:35] <cusco> "guided partitioning" should be
the title
1067 [12:02:03] <cusco> if you can erase all the contents of the
disk in the machine you are abot to install just chose "use
whole disk" in that step
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1073 [12:03:29] <JonTargaryen> i did that exactly cusco, and still
giving me the same error
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1075 [12:04:04] <JonTargaryen> Guided partitioning
1076 [12:04:11] <JonTargaryen> then Guided - use entire disk
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1080 [12:04:28] <JonTargaryen> i chose the disk
1081 [12:04:58] <JonTargaryen> then i selected the option
"all files in one partition (recommended for new users)"
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1083 [12:05:16] <JonTargaryen> then "finish partitioning and
write changes to disk"
1084 [12:05:44] <JonTargaryen> when it prompts to "write the
changes to disks?" i select Yes
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1098 [12:13:09] <JonTargaryen> so anyone has any idea?
1099 [12:14:52] <toorop> JonTargaryen > Did you retry?
1100 [12:15:44] <JonTargaryen> yes i did again now
1101 [12:16:41] <toorop> Is the disk good for service?
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1103 [12:17:19] <JonTargaryen> you mean if it's in good
health, yes it is, i had windows on it with hard disk sentinel and
it worked fine
1104 [12:17:32] <JonTargaryen> i also tried a different hard disk
suspecting it was the problem
1105 [12:17:35] <JonTargaryen> and still no luck
1106 [12:19:12] <blackflow> JonTargaryen: sda -- is that the
correct disk? you sure the system did not boot with the DVD as sda?
1107 [12:19:51] <JonTargaryen> blackflow honestly i don't
know, i'm new to this, so how do i make sure?
1108 [12:20:11] <JonTargaryen> i'm sure i do select the 250GB
drive when i try installing
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1129 [12:33:47] <JonTargaryen> so any help?
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1196 [13:19:44] <picea> the aptly package in buster is broken, you
are able to create repos but unfortunately not to remove them
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1207 [13:24:50] <monra> Hi how do you solve that debian host on
virtualbox (windows 10) client problem with full-screen resulution
on a secondary monitor? Is there a chance to have a solution to that
befeore 2020 or should I just fork my own linux distro to fix that?
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1211 [13:25:46] <rant> monra: I am not a betting man, but I'm
willing to bet nobody has the slightest clue what you're
talking about
1212 [13:26:04] <monra> Pls if u never done that ust ignore my
question or be the "just install guest additions"
"just press ctrl +f" guy.
1213 [13:26:19] <monra> rant: I tought it was a common problem tbh
1214 [13:27:01] <rant> I HAVE done it and I dont even know what
you're talking about
1215 [13:27:01] <monra> wait let me copy the question from the
other 7 ircs and support forums
1216 [13:27:02] <petn-randall> monra: Ranting won't get you
far if you're asking for free help from volunteers.
1217 [13:27:07] <petn-randall> !crosspost
1218 [13:27:07] <dpkg> Posting the same question in several places
at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums)
is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone
else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we
are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've
already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer
and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
1219 [13:27:10] <rant> monra: dont bother, go to the correct
channel
1220 [13:27:23] <monra> wich should be_
1221 [13:27:29] <rant> virtualbox isn't in debian stable,
neither is win10
1222 [13:27:38] <rant> try #virtualbox maybe, idk
1223 [13:27:45] <diogenes_> there is /j #vbox
1224 [13:27:58] <monra> but have u ever had this problem too?
1225 [13:28:00] <petn-randall> Well, it is in stretch-backports
...
1226 [13:28:35] <rant> no, I deleted all my windows virtualboxes
recently..
1227 [13:28:55] <diogenes_> monra, almost no one here is using
windows in any shape or form
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1229 [13:29:06] <diogenes_> raise hands who's using windows
:)
1230 [13:29:24] * a0z lowers both arms
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1232 [13:29:24] <monra> diogenes_: that's what you think lmao
1233 [13:29:35] <qman__> I use windows plenty, but not virtualbox
1234 [13:29:37] <rant> you literally couldnt pay m to.. and i only
have $2 in the bank and less than $5 on me
1235 [13:29:40] <petn-randall> !survey
1236 [13:29:41] <dpkg> i heard survey is Don't ask whether
'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey.
Ask the question that you want to ask.
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1240 [13:30:58] <monra> I only use windows for work and I'm
totally bad at it, I just have to do some system management so i
have to install a vm (can't just shovel away 40gb of corporate
bloated os unfortunately) so once in a while I try to install debian
with decent screen res, I failed for a couple years now
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1243 [13:32:00] <rant> you said "debian host" now
you're sounding like its a "debian guest"
1244 [13:32:15] <crivrc> <JonTargaryen> maybe hardware
problem? have you ever written anything into that disk? perhaps you
can try with a live-cd
1245 [13:32:19] <monra> Also I would go for the ssh solution if i
knew anything about corporate vpn, I can't even find the
correct ip for the vpn
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1247 [13:32:51] <monra> rant: man sorry I'm boiled, i meant
debian guest
1248 [13:33:07] <JonTargaryen> crivrc i will download a live cd
and retry
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1252 [13:35:15] <rant> monra: then your problem likely lies
somewhere between windows and virtualbox support communities..
because those are the folk who make the display drivers in question.
There is nothing remotely debian related in this equation.
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1257 [13:37:34] <petn-randall> Well, there *is* Debian as the
guest ...
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1260 [13:38:06] <monra> rant: the problem may be in the screen
used by the guest, I hypotised that the problem could lie there
because whenever I manage to "unlock" the resolution it is
capped at the laptop's screen resolution
1261 [13:38:16] <themill> picea: that bug doesn't appear to
be in the bts; unreported bugs don't often get fixed.
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1265 [13:39:39] <monra> so yeah the problem lies there, there is
also appearently no way to change the used monitor from the client
but I might be wrong, I think I'm stupid tho
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1269 [13:40:31] <monra> rant maybe I can confirm that the wrong
monitor acceptable resolution is being used, clues?
1270 [13:42:11] <picea> themill: i created a bug report seconds
ago
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1289 [13:48:56] <hmpf1> Hello!
1290 [13:48:56] <hmpf1> Does anyone have an idea what goes wrong
when I get a segfault from pbuilder-satisfydepends?
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1294 [13:50:00] <hmpf1>
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1306 [13:57:02] <themill> picea: thanks
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1335 [14:13:21] <mrig> Hello, is it possible to install debian 0
into a preexisting LVM partition?
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1338 [14:14:54] <mrig> I have read an article that recommended
that this can be done from a live usb instance, I am simply trying
to ascertain if it can be done from the graphic install manual disk
partition options?
1339 [14:15:28] <mrig> if not I will just stop partitioning the
disk.
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1354 [14:26:39] <bingbotboom> yes
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1356 [14:27:38] <bingbotboom> you can, just select to give debian
the whole partition if unsure
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1368 [14:32:45] <cybercrypto> hello there
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1374 [14:37:35] <bingbotboom> ohais
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1380 [14:38:36] <mrig> bingbotboom I would prefer to avoid doing
this if I can, the thought being that I will not need to copy over
all of my data this way.
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1382 [14:39:06] <petn-randall> mrig: Do you have backups of the
data?
1383 [14:39:13] <mrig> I was looking to find out if it is possible
to preserve the partitioning from the graphic install menu.
1384 [14:39:19] <mrig> yes several
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1386 [14:39:57] <petn-randall> mrig: Yes, it should be possible to
install to a LV. I don't know if it's in the regular
install, but it's 100% sure in the expert install.
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1388 [14:40:46] <bingbotboom> yeah just pick any other or resize
and split existing in gpartef
1389 [14:40:58] <mrig> petn-randall: thank you that is what I was
looking for. Before investing time in testing, to check that it is
possible. Better to use the command line interface than the graphic?
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1393 [14:42:33] <petn-randall> mrig: I think both the graphical
and the text installer have the same options, so whatever you
prefer.
1394 [14:42:46] <mrig> It is a shame, there is no space in my
laptop for a second ssd :)
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1398 [14:43:30] <mrig> yes I seem to recall coming to the
conclusion that both were pretty much the same, so I need to
understand the naming conventions I think.
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1407 [14:44:44] <mrig> petn-randall Thank you for the info,
reading up from the debian LVM page.
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1410 [14:46:11] <mrig> so LV 1 needs to be root but not the boot?
1411 [14:46:18] <petn-randall> mrig: These two are mutually
exclusive: text mode / graphical installer. And then there's
"normal" / "expert mode".
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1413 [14:46:37] <petn-randall> mrig: grub can boot directly from
LVM.
1414 [14:46:56] <petn-randall> Though the installer still creates
a separate partition for /boot outside of LVM.
1415 [14:47:19] <mrig> This is where I get confused, which disks
to make what. From the previous installation.
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1419 [14:48:49] <mrig> right, so on a disk that has a LVM
partitioned disk upon which a system is already installed and the
split is used to make a /home I need to tell it to wipe the root
partition, and install onto that?
1420 [14:48:51] <petn-randall> mrig: If you look at the contents,
it should be fairly straight forward.
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1422 [14:49:37] <mrig> Yes I see which partition is the target, so
I need to reset all the disk partition usages?
1423 [14:49:46] <petn-randall> mrig: That's how I'd do
it. Just make sure that when you configure the home partition, that
it gets mounted to /home, and *doesn't* get formatted.
It's a setting.
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1425 [14:50:24] <mrig> right so the boot disk should be the root
or the physical disk?
1426 [14:50:32] <mrig> Non-LVM
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1430 [14:51:49] <mrig> i will go try again, just a matter of doing
it once to get it clear, in the knowledge that it is possible this
will be a lot easier :)
1431 [14:51:56] <mrig> Thanks
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1466 [15:07:18] <DonK_KijotE> Hi
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1471 [15:07:46] <petn-randall> hi DonK_KijotE
1472 [15:07:57] <DonK_KijotE> hey there :)
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1500 [15:20:52] <tomodachi> if i have a cron /5 meaning every 5
minutes, but when does it start?
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1502 [15:21:03] <tomodachi> or is that just from the moment the
cron is added
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1504 [15:21:12] <tomodachi> or 12:05,12:10 etc etc
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1513 [15:27:16] <DonK_KijotE> tomodachi I think it starts counting
the 5 minutes from the time you set the crontask
1514 [15:27:45] <DonK_KijotE> you should check it probably on the
man page if you need to know this with certain precision
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1516 [15:28:15] <areyouloco> !dpkg cron
1517 [15:28:15] <dpkg> well, cron is a daemon allowing programs to
be run at predefined intervals as specific users. To read how to
specify a job to run "man 5 crontab". To see your crontab
"crontab -l". To edit it "crontab -e". System
wide crontabs are /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d, and /etc/cron.* are
directories have run-parts called on them from /etc/crontab. Also
ask me about <crontab>, <cron tutorial> and
<run-parts>.
1518 [15:28:52] <EdePopede> i'd say at :05 :10 etc. else it
would have to keep a record of when each entry was added.
1519 [15:29:18] <DonK_KijotE> seems logic tbh
1520 [15:29:26] <DonK_KijotE> gonna find that out :)
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1525 [15:29:53] <EdePopede> but. what about /7? or any other value
you can't use to divide 60.
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1530 [15:31:49] <EdePopede> and if the counter starts at 0
everytime the file is changed, what if you edit and save it just
before such a job is about to start? would never get executed.
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1536 [15:34:33] <joze> what if cron controls a nuclear plant and
the beginning is out of interval?
1537 [15:35:06] <DonK_KijotE> ok channel, general advise now is to
avoid cron :P
1538 [15:35:11] <DonK_KijotE> hahaha
1539 [15:35:20] <DonK_KijotE> at least don't use it on your
nuclear plants xd
1540 [15:36:24] <mutante> next: i replaced cron with systemd
timers, now i have new problems with that
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1554 [15:45:54] <tomodachi> seems to be :00,05,10 etc..
1555 [15:45:58] <tomodachi> tested it to make sure in the end
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1568 [15:51:44] <Slashman> hello, on a debian router, I have some
iptables rules and I'm seeing some DROP that should match a
previous rule to accept them, the relevant rules and on example
error are here:
replaced-url
1569 [15:51:51] <Slashman> any idea how this can be are welcome
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1590 [16:01:03] <petn-randall> Slashman: bridging and routing are
two different things. Also, it seems as though you're not
showing all output of `iptables -L -vn`. `iptables -L -vn -t nat`
would also be relevant.
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1592 [16:02:25] <Slashman> petn-randall: I have to cleanup the
output of iptables because it has unrelated rules, there is no JUMP
that could mess up the order
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1595 [16:03:22] <Slashman> the bridge is working fine, I'm
just explaining in the paste what is each interfaces
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1599 [16:03:56] <mrig> Hello
1600 [16:04:18] <mrig> petn-randall, do you have a moment to take
a look at this
replaced-url
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1603 [16:05:20] <mrig> I am not sure which drive to make the root
and it is asking for it, and not recognising the LVM partition as
root.
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1605 [16:06:26] <mrig> I would appreciate a pointer here if anyone
knows which partition I need to make into what?
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1618 [16:12:03] <petn-randall> mrig: You want to use the LV
laptop-vg/root as root partition.
1619 [16:12:37] <petn-randall> Slashman: Sure, but a package runs
through more chains than the one you showed.
1620 [16:13:03] <mrig> oh of course is is marked as ext4 with no
further designation.
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1622 [16:13:16] <Slashman> petn-randall: does it matter? it
doesn't match any since the log is showing the it hits the last
one
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1624 [16:13:45] <mrig> right thank you, off to try that again!
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1634 [16:16:34] <crivrc> joze don't use it to control the
absorption bars!
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1638 [16:17:11] <petn-randall> crivrc: Do you have a Debian
support question?
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1669 [16:29:34] <pthomas> Does anyone know where I can find the
kernel .config for stretch amd64?
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1672 [16:30:13] <pthomas> I didn't see it in the source
package here:
1673 [16:30:13] <pthomas>
replaced-url
1674 [16:30:31] <greycat> it is in /boot after you install the
package
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1676 [16:30:32] <petn-randall> pthomas: On an installed system
it's in /boot/config-<versionnumber>.
1677 [16:30:57] <pthomas> petn-randall, thanks!
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1679 [16:31:51] <pthomas> that is not very googleable
1680 [16:32:16] <petn-randall> Indeed. You're welcome!
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1700 [16:40:11] <Piraty> hi.
1701 [16:40:20] <Piraty> i have this experience with debian
containers: "lxc stop mydebian" does not stop the
container. "lxc exec mydebian -- poweroff" does. can
anybody help??
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1735 [16:54:59] <areyouloco> Piraty: I am using LXC on openwrt
only but lxc stop is a gracefull shutdown and it waits for
everything to close
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1739 [16:55:49] <Slashman> Piraty: what version of lxd/lxc are u
using?
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1741 [16:57:34] <Piraty> lxc on openwrt?? lol
1742 [16:57:40] <Piraty> lxc / lxd : 3.10
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1764 [17:11:46] <gordonfish> [replaced-url
1765 [17:12:55] <greycat> You don't copy the .iso as a file
into an existing vfat file system. You overwrite the raw device with
the image, which contains a partition table and so on.
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1769 [17:13:53] <Piraty> gordonfish: use rw or dd
1770 [17:14:46] <gordonfish> Where it uses vmlinuz and initrd.gz
from
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1772 [17:15:33] <gordonfish> Under "4.3.3.2. Adding the
installer image" it says, "If you used an hd-media image,
you should now copy the ISO file of a Debian ISO image[4] onto the
stick."
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1778 [17:16:34] <gordonfish> I'm just wondering how it
actually finds that iso. The page doesn't really get into that.
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1782 [17:17:04] <greycat> I've never seen anyone attempt that
before. No idea. Maybe ask in #debian-boot on the other network.
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1784 [17:17:49] <petn-randall> gordonfish: I'm guessing that
the initramfs has a script that will look for a file looking like
"debian*.iso", or something.
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1790 [17:22:26] <gordonfish> greycat: It's useful when you
have a larger usb stick and want to put other files and/or make a
multiboot (like memtest and other utils)
1791 [17:22:52] <gordonfish> petn-randall: Thanks, that makes
sense
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1794 [17:24:42] <bunni> Gonna ask this one more time and hope it
catches someones eye who might know. Anyone here deal with the
Debian cross toolchains? Have a specific need for Debian Jessie x86
to have cross compiler for armhf. This has worked in the past:
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1795 [17:24:58] <gordonfish> greycat: In my case I only have a
spare 64gb so it's be a bit of a waste to just dd onto it and
not be able to add anything. And while yes I could add another
partition, partitions after the first aren't visible in windows
explorer (without some registry hacking to change mass-storage
handling.)
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1797 [17:25:38] <gordonfish> I also want to be able to add the
contents of the other two DVD isos, plus some utils and such.
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1807 [17:31:58] <Piraty> boah why the heck you use a DIFFERENT
naming convention than 101% of the rest of the world by naming the
service ssh instead of sshd
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1809 [17:32:42] <greycat> To make your life harder. And yes, I got
bit by that one too.
1810 [17:33:23] <greycat>
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1811 [17:33:27] <greycat> I even used it as an example there.
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1816 [17:37:39] <gordonfish> boah?
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1821 [17:38:41] <gordonfish> (also, both service sshd status and
service ssh status work)
1822 [17:39:13] <gordonfish> (ditto for systemctl status ..)
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1825 [17:41:20] <greycat> gordonfish: Yes, that's the TRAP.
Some commands work just fine using the alias name, so you get
complacent.
1826 [17:41:25] <gordonfish> (oh, /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service
has Alias=sshd.service)
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1828 [17:41:33] <gordonfish> right
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1830 [17:41:59] <greycat> Then you think "OK, I'll set
up a drop-in directory for sshd.service" and BOOM! Shit breaks
every which way!
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1832 [17:42:06] <n4dir> boah is a german slangterm. kinda: wtf. or
sigh. or such. it's usage isn't very clear (to me). in
case that was the question, gordonfish
1833 [17:42:22] <gordonfish> Ah, I see
1834 [17:42:24] <gordonfish> Thanks
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1837 [17:43:10] <gordonfish> greycat: Ah, I definately see that
point. Although a simple status check will reveal the correct name,
it is still easy to forget.
1838 [17:43:41] <mutante>
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1839 [17:44:10] <ironic_aneurysm> heh. I'm just proud that
I'm finally learning systemd *smh*
1840 [17:44:32] <mutante> sshd is ssh on systemd ? jk
1841 [17:44:57] <gordonfish> IMHO, calling the service
'ssh' does make some sense, as any service is normally a
daemon, one wouldn't normally run a client program as a
service.
1842 [17:45:15] <greycat> The Debian service name is
"ssh.service". But Debian also creates an Alias service
name "sshd.service". In some places, you can use either
name. In other places, you MUST use the real name.
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1844 [17:45:32] <mutante> daemon.service IS redundant, they got a
point
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1846 [17:46:00] <gordonfish> Right, and it's not hard to
check what the real name is. And iirc in those places where it
doesn't, a symlink could be made
1847 [17:46:33] <greycat> An alias name *is* a symlink.
That's how it's implemented.
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1850 [17:46:49] <gordonfish> I mean like a drop dir like you
mentioned before
1851 [17:47:03] <gordonfish> either a symlink or bind mount could
be used for those
1852 [17:47:20] <greycat> If you make a drop-in directory for an
alias name, shit breaks HARD. I couldn't even reproduce my own
results. It was just random as hell.
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1854 [17:47:29] <gordonfish> Oh?
1855 [17:47:41] <gordonfish> Wow. What exactly occurred?
1856 [17:48:08] <greycat> I can't remember exactly, and I
couldn't reproduce anything reliably. This was back when I was
first learning all this stuff, of course.
1857 [17:48:15] <gordonfish> Did you merely make a dir called
sshd.service or did you actually make a symlink?
1858 [17:48:33] <gordonfish> Oh, so earlier days of systemd then
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1860 [17:50:06] <gordonfish> systemd has very active development
last I looked, it wouldn't surprise me that that was fixed if
that was happening a couple years back.
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1862 [17:53:38] <jelly> gordonfish: Re: finding iso on a stick,
debian-installer code for that particular bit is VERY fragile. This
is (part of the reason) we actively recommend against unetbootin,
rufus, and other similar tools, because their tampering confuses d-i
easily and makes it unable to find its files and image.
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1869 [18:00:12] <dob1> hi, it is possible to hide at least the
arguments of a process in ps ?
1870 [18:00:23] <greycat> No.
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1872 [18:00:39] <dob1> it's not nice :/
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1874 [18:00:57] <greycat> Also, the process's initial
environment is visible. So stop trying to pass passwords or other
secrets as arguments or as environment variables.
1875 [18:01:40] <dob1> what you suggest?
1876 [18:02:06] <greycat> Any serious program knows these things
and has safe ways to ask your for passwords, usually by directly
opening /dev/tty and prompting you.
1877 [18:02:06] <dob1> and how is he initial environment visible?
1878 [18:02:11] <greycat> ps e
1879 [18:02:27] <dob1> oh...
1880 [18:02:33] <greycat> eww because it'll be truncated
otherwise
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1882 [18:03:52] <dob1> greycat, there are ton of documentation
about scripts online that teach you to pass arguments either as env
var or arguments
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1884 [18:04:06] <greycat> /msg greybot crap
1885 [18:04:38] <pagetelegram> I'm trying hylafax server now
and I setup the server and jobs are still being sent to localhost
and not the modem device ttyS0
1886 [18:05:21] <dob1> greycat, there was a kernel patch to
separate every user, hiding the ps etc, grsecurity ??
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1890 [18:06:57] <greycat> Yes, there are some computers somewhere
in the world where people hide stuff slightly more so than normal.
Doesn't change the fact that you don't pass passwords as
arguments because the OTHER 95% of computers in the world are still
normal.
1891 [18:07:22] <storgance> So, is there a big enough difference
between Jessie and Stretch that I should be worried about applying
the materials on
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1892 [18:07:34] <greycat> You simply use correct programming
techniques instead of relying on obfuscations by the local fools.
1893 [18:08:03] <dob1> greycat, other thank keys I am using
sshpass for rsync in scripts, it seems fine or am I wrong?
1894 [18:08:13] <dob1> *than
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1897 [18:09:13] <dob1> anyway ps ereplaced-url
1898 [18:10:10] <greycat> Scripts relying on authentication is a
challenging problem. I divide it broadly into two sub-problems:
scripts that you run in your session, or scripts that are fully
automated (e.g. cron jobs).
1899 [18:10:23] <greycat> Scripts that YOU run are easily handled
by ssh-agent and so on.
1900 [18:10:30] <greycat> Cron jobs are a totally different
matter.
1901 [18:10:34] <teclo-> dob1: indeed
1902 [18:10:37] <dob1> if you can use the keys
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1920 [18:19:01] <gordonfish> jelly: Thanks
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1928 [18:23:13] <jelly> dob1: debian kernels have options to hide
processes from other users from everyone but root.
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1932 [18:23:51] <jelly> dob1: do a web search for hidepid=2
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1934 [18:23:56] <dob1> jelly, from root it's ok, it's
root :)
1935 [18:23:56] <greycat> I still strongly encourage NOT relying
on such things, as they will not be the norm in the wild.
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1938 [18:24:35] <jelly> it's just another tool in the box.
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1940 [18:24:55] <dob1> greycat, better to have it, then you can
decide to use or not
1941 [18:24:56] <jelly> I encourage using multiple overlapping
protections.
1942 [18:25:03] <teclo-> well I know that for instance smbclient
censors the passwords it uses when you do ps
1943 [18:25:09] <gordonfish> Can't hide from the almighty
root
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1948 [18:27:46] <jelly> teclo-: that's very likely to be
prone to a race condition.
1949 [18:27:55] <teclo-> jelly: it's possible
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1952 [18:29:42] <dob1> well, reading about it you can also create
a group "monitoring" and add an user to this group and he
still can all the process even wth hidepid=2
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1967 [18:42:06] <Fahrradkette> Hi everybody. What's the
recommended way to track a (resolved) upstream bug to debians
package?
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1980 [18:44:41] <Fahrradkette> In this case, I'm experiencing
replaced-url
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2022 [19:04:02] <Fahrradkette> oh, nevermind, found the bug in the
source tracker of poppler
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2040 [19:10:37] <fling> Should I uninstall iceweasel?
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2050 [19:20:01] <prasket> @fling I do not think iceweasel is
around anymore, it was renamed back to FireFox back in Jessie I
think it was.
2051 [19:20:29] <prasket> or merged back into or however it
worked, but now I just have firefox-esr vs iceweasel on my newer deb
full installs.
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2053 [19:20:55] <fling> Should I replace it with firefox-esr?
2054 [19:20:58] <fling> Or just firefox?
2055 [19:21:19] <jmcnaught> fling: which release of Debian are you
using?
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2059 [19:23:19] <Dark-Jedi> fling: It's your choice really.
firefox-esr will be best supported. But if you're looking for
newer, less tested stuff, the firefox package can be easily upgraded
to beta or alpha channels.
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2073 [19:28:53] <fling> jmcnaught: buster
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2075 [19:29:26] <fling> Dark-Jedi: I don't know what beta ald
alpha channels are.
2076 [19:29:47] <Dark-Jedi> fling: Then just stick with
firefox-esr
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2078 [19:30:56] <jmcnaught> judd: info iceweasel --release buster
2079 [19:30:57] <judd> No package named 'iceweasel' was
found in buster/amd64.
2080 [19:31:30] <jmcnaught> fling: you shouldn't be using
iceweasel anymore, it must either be horribly out of date or just a
transition package now
2081 [19:31:57] <fling> So how to fix my situation properly? :P
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2085 [19:32:43] <Dark-Jedi> In Debian Stretch and later, the
package iceweasel is a transitional package which installs the
firefox-esr package.
2086 [19:32:51] <Dark-Jedi> So just use firefox-esr
2087 [19:33:04] <Dark-Jedi> As of 9th of June, 2016 the package
Firefox-ESR replaces Iceweasel, and is in Wheezy and Jessie security
repositories.
2088 [19:33:10] <Tenkawa> I only have one word for compiles with a
laptop with 12 cores... wow
2089 [19:33:38] <jmcnaught> yeah it's pretty puzzling how you
have iceweasel at all, unless of course it's just the
transition package. Are you *using* iceweasel?
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2151 [19:56:18] <relipse> I'm on a windows box sshing with
ubuntu how do I scp a file back to my ubuntu windows box?
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2154 [19:58:04] <ironic_aneurysm> huh?
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2161 [20:02:24] <blackflow> relipse: #ubuntu-on-windows
2162 [20:02:36] <blackflow> (srsly, that's a channel for WSL)
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2167 [20:04:47] <relipse> blackflow: yeah there are only 7 people
there
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2170 [20:06:09] <blackflow> relipse: welp, you'll have to
wait until some one of the seven answers :)
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2233 [20:36:33] <storgance> Don't mean to bother, but anyone
have a comment or answer to my question from a couple hours ago?
Minute was :07.
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2246 [20:42:12] <ksk> storgance: while newer software sometimes
changes the way you use it, most of the concepts should still be
true. I assume it does include systemd?
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2248 [20:42:43] <ksk> most of the times software like apache2 will
try to not break things by implementing a new feature.
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2250 [20:43:55] <ksk> might be some example from this bug does not
work 1:1 depending on what it covers, other things will just do.
Just apply some extra caution using them (like, looking up switches
for a program in the manpage, if you are for example fiddling around
with live-data in some way)
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2314 [21:09:14] <jken> Working on a custom kernel build using the
bin-debpkg make target. It seems the resulting .deb file uses the
entire kernel version string as both the package name and version in
the control file.. what migth I be doing wrong? I am assuming this
is not what its supposed to do.
2315 [21:10:06] <jken> ie. name =
linux-image-5.0.0-mybuildqualifiers and version =
linux-image-5.0.0-mybuildqualifiers, rather than name =
linux-image-<something?> version = 5.0.0-mybuildqualifiers
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2326 [21:18:00] <Tom-_> it's so cool and neat that Linux 5.0
is out
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2328 [21:18:22] <Tom-_> offtopic but i just wanted to mention that
even after 28 years or something Linux is awesome
2329 [21:20:46] <Tenkawa> omg O
2330 [21:20:52] <Tenkawa> i'm old
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2332 [21:21:30] <Tenkawa> i started kernel work in 93/94
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2334 [21:22:32] <Tenkawa> oh wow... thats almost the whole 28
2335 [21:23:23] * Tenkawa was working on ncr svr4 beforehand
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2337 [21:25:29] <Tenkawa> Tom-_: whats scary is I'm sitting
here with a laptop I compiled a kernel on it that has 16 c0res. it
was too fast to even watch the output
2338 [21:25:44] <Tenkawa> er cores
2339 [21:25:54] <Tom-_> terrific :)
2340 [21:25:58] <Tenkawa> indeed
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2342 [21:26:38] <Tenkawa> 12 cores rather...
2343 [21:26:57] <Tenkawa> I was running 18 jobs
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2345 [21:27:05] <Tenkawa> it was flying
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2349 [21:30:59] <Tom-_> you hack on the kernel? i have extremely
limited Linux contributes.... .... I'm the reason there's
a nethack-console package in Debian and not nethack-tty or
nethack-nox or something
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2351 [21:31:20] <Tenkawa> I use to a long time ago.....
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2354 [21:32:34] <Tenkawa> i was good at porting code between
arch's
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2356 [21:33:03] <Tom-_> terrific :) at the risk of being redundant
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2358 [21:33:34] <Tenkawa> thanks. :)
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2362 [21:35:07] <Tom-_> yw
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2457 [22:29:19] <Dan39> jigdo is garbage... always gives me
issues. frustrating trying to find the right mirror to use
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2462 [22:31:16] <rwp> jigdo uses the same mirrors as your
system's /etc/apt/sources.list{,d/*} use. If you have working
ones there then jigdo needs no other config.
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2464 [22:33:42] <shibboleth> anyone know a way to do JBOD, fill up
each drive sequentially and easily be able to recover the data
physically stored on each surviving drive in case of failure?
2465 [22:34:42] <shibboleth> doing lvm+ext4 will store complete
files on each drive but the fs itself will be striped. don't
worry about parity, that's already covered
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2468 [22:35:13] <shibboleth> overlayfs?
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2477 [22:37:19] <kyych> hello, is there any way to install
i3blocks without i3wm? :p
2478 [22:37:31] <kyych> i have compilled i3-gaps
2479 [22:37:47] <kyych> and installing i3wm will overwrite my
settings on every update
2480 [22:38:01] <greycat> i3blocks only depends on libc6 and perl;
it *recommends* i3-wm but you can ignore recommends
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2484 [22:39:08] <kyych> apt says that packages like i3wm will be
installed too :p
2485 [22:39:10] <somiaj> with apt/apt-get use the
--no-install-recommends flag when installing the package.
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2487 [22:39:37] <kyych> whoooa
2488 [22:39:38] <kyych> thanks
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2494 [22:42:26] <Tom-_> i wish there was a dpkg
--satisfy-dependency or something so i could just decide my own
dependencies
2495 [22:42:40] <Tom-_> debian's dpkg is too controlling
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2498 [22:43:45] <somiaj> depends aren't something you can
decide. recommends and suggested are, and the default is to install
recommended packages and not install suggested.
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2500 [22:44:33] <somiaj> By debian policy recommended packages
should be ones that most users will want and aspects of the software
may not function as desired with out them. suggested are packages
that could be used in conjunction with that software.
2501 [22:45:06] <greycat> and dpkg doesn't care about either
of those things
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2507 [22:50:15] <arny91> Hi,are the daily and weekly testing cd
images currently broken? The installer is always showing the message
"No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a
mismatch..."
2508 [22:51:03] <ksk> !tell arny91 about debian-next
2509 [22:51:18] <somiaj> arny91: I think #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net or maybe #debian-installer on irc.oftc.net would be
better places for such a question. (This is a stable support channel
and many users here most likely haven't tried the current
installer images for buster)
2510 [22:51:47] <arny91> ok, thank you
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2529 [22:56:03] <motes> Hi there :). Could you help me with this
problem?
replaced-url
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2537 [23:01:45] <ksk> motes: could you repaste that somewhere?
maybe at
replaced-url
2538 [23:02:17] <ksk> it might be related to my browser, but your
pastebin service asks for a password.
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2544 [23:03:37] <greycat> Also, ask the English part of the
question here so people know whether to bother opening your web page
for more details.
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2550 [23:04:09] <motes>
replaced-url
2551 [23:05:36] <motes> Hi grecat, I decided to paste all the
message in an external service because I could use break lines
without writing different messages
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2555 [23:06:41] <motes> Basically the problem is that debian
freezes for a short to medium amount of time and some radeon errors
appear
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2564 [23:10:19] <motes> Anyway, i didn't set a password for
that paste but maybe it prompts to insert one anyway, have you tried
leaving it empty and check if it works?
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2587 [23:18:53] <EdePopede> it shouldn't (and doesn not
here), yet another 0bin like pastebin. downloads the encrypted
message and uses the key in the fragment identifier to decrypt it.
with noscript there's only the usual NoJS error. maybe an addon
causing the trouble?
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2613 [23:36:39] <jcb2016> so i just installed a .deb file it was
missing a dependancy so i tried to do apt-file search filename. it
wasnt installed but i got an error that i need to run apt
--fix-broken install. everything worked and it installed but is this
normal?
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2615 [23:37:32] <abrotman> jcb2016: yeah, pretty much, when using
that method
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2618 [23:37:48] <jcb2016> ok cool thanks
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2626 [23:44:41] <jcb2016> was i right to do apt-file search?
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2628 [23:45:33] <motes> Does nobody have any clue for what
I've asked?
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2662 [23:59:18] <jcb2016> anyone heard of gdebi?
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