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1 [00:00:27] <salkin-mada> and --> Using Wayland-EGL
WebEngine compiled with X11 support, however qpa backend is not xcb.
This may fail.
[0315/235952.183428:WARNING:stack_trace_posix.cc(699)] Failed to
open file: /home/salkin/#27797226 (deleted) Error: No such file or
directory
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3 [00:03:02] <somiaj> salkin-mada: what version of debian do
you run?
4 [00:03:54] <somiaj> If something worked fine yesterday, but
doesn't work today, try to identify what changed. It could be
some config setting in your home dir (the file it is trying to open
seems very strange to me)
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25 [00:15:35] <usney> how can I make a live usb of my current
installed debian system with all the software I installed?
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27 [00:16:17] <annadane> maybe this?
28 [00:16:19] <annadane> !aptitude clone
29 [00:16:19] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude
(or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search
--disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on
the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install <
package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves
information about "automatically installed" packages that
other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to
backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
30 [00:16:33] <annadane> i should stop guessing stuff and let
someone else answer, though.
31 [00:17:15] <annadane> there's other cloning tools, i
don't know what differences there are for live images
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38 [00:19:31] <somiaj> usney: You will first have to look into
live-build, and learn how to use that to create a live usb. After
that you can just provide live-build the package list you want to
include on the image.
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50 [00:28:17] <salkin-mada> somiaj: i run debian 10
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52 [00:29:08] <somiaj> salkin-mada: debian stable shouldn't
be changing that much that something would just stop working.
PRobably a configuration error in your $HOME dir. One thing you can
often check is use a new user with a clean $HOME and see if you have
the same issues.
53 [00:29:48] <salkin-mada> yeah i did that 10 mins ago. and the
new tester user with sudo permissions works just fine.
54 [00:30:09] <salkin-mada> so it is something special happening
with my orig user
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56 [00:30:46] <salkin-mada> but i am in deep here. i dont now
how to debug this :)
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58 [00:31:45] <somiaj> are you runnign these apps with sudo,
this could possibly the be the issue. It is often best to not run
gui apps as root
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65 [00:34:23] <salkin-mada> no no sudo runs. i dont know why i
specified i added my new tester user to the sudoers group. not
relevant i guess :)
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68 [00:35:36] <somiaj> you probably have permissions all messed
up since you used sudo
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75 [00:38:17] <salkin-mada> will look into that :)
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89 [00:44:16] <mandeep> looks like pastebinit no longer works.
any recommendations for replacements?
90 [00:44:28] <mandeep> would like to paste to paste.debian.net
from commandline
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104 [00:57:20] <salkin-mada> 0bin
105 [00:57:37] <salkin-mada> mandeep:
replaced-url
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107 [00:58:06] <salkin-mada> not sure about commandline
integration though
108 [00:58:21] <mandeep> it's okay. i found gist-paste
109 [00:58:30] <mandeep> which will work for now i guess
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115 [01:03:38] <somiaj> !termbin
116 [01:03:38] <dpkg> termbin is, like, you can paste to
termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com
9999
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118 [01:03:57] <somiaj> though what doesn't work about
pastebinit, have you check if there is a bug or not?
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120 [01:04:42] <somiaj> mandeep: I see no bugs that pastebinit is
not working (well recent ones), maybe try to figure out what
isn't working about pastebinit.
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122 [01:05:06] <mandeep> somiaj: it's giving me an error
that it's not compatible with python 3.5
123 [01:05:55] <mandeep> last update was 4 years ago so this isnt
surprising i guess
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126 [01:07:05] <somiaj> what version of debian are you running?
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131 [01:08:21] <somiaj> the changelog seems to suggst it works
with python, do you have a version mixmatch between the python you
are trying to use and what the system python woudl be for your
debian version?
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165 [01:39:45] <POLK> hi, deb10 question. I'm comiling a
tool that at some point returns "error: Couldn't find X11
headers/libs." How to install the missing thing ? :)
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178 [01:57:28] <themill> POLK: likely you need to install
libx11-dev -- if there are specific files it has looked for and
failed to find (from the configure log) then apt-file is the tool to
figure out what package they are in
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190 [02:04:31] <POLK> themill, thx man
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195 [02:10:58] <knob> !tell knob about firmware iso
196 [02:11:32] <dvs> !tell knob about self tell
197 [02:11:47] <knob> Hello. I installed Debian10 with the
firmware iso (non-free). I installed on a Dell XPS 14z laptop.
During installation, Debian detected (I assume) the ethernet driver,
and I was able to connect to the net.
198 [02:12:17] <knob> Everything got installed. Yet now that I
reboot the laptop, the eth0 (or enp0s1 or enpXsY) doesn't show
up.
199 [02:12:37] <knob> Do i have to "manually" install
it once I am up and running, still inside the installation
"live" environment?
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204 [02:14:42] <dvs> knob, what was the exact filename of the
firmware iso?
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207 [02:15:17] <knob> dvs, hello. I correct myself. I just
rebooted the laptop, and running #ip a I do see the enp1s0 .
208 [02:15:22] <knob> The exact filename... sec...
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210 [02:15:38] <knob> firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-5_all.deb
211 [02:15:58] <dvs> that's not the iso filename
212 [02:16:16] <knob> Ah sorry! Yes ... sec
213 [02:16:26] <knob> firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst
214 [02:16:30] <knob> I'm sorry about that., Brain fart
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216 [02:17:21] <dvs> That's strange. That should have left
permanent entries in the /etc/network/interfaces file.
217 [02:17:48] <knob> That's what I just opened.
218 [02:17:53] <knob> And it doesn't have the dhcp line.
219 [02:17:59] <knob> Should I add it manually?
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221 [02:18:39] <dvs> knob, what else is in the interfaces file?
222 [02:19:12] <knob> I've got three lines. First source
/etc/network/interfaces.d/*
223 [02:19:22] <knob> then second auto lo and third iface lo inet
loopback
224 [02:19:25] <knob> that's it
225 [02:20:27] <dvs> Yeah, there's no lines to configure the
ethernet or wireless interfaces, unless there are other files in the
/etc/netowkr/interfaces.d directory.
226 [02:21:07] <knob> checking...
227 [02:21:35] <knob> no. interfaces.d/ is empty
228 [02:21:52] <knob> I could re-install... because it's a
fresh install on this laptop, and I don't have nothing on it.
229 [02:22:13] <knob> Yeah, I added the iface enp0s1 inet dhcp
line to the interface file,
230 [02:22:19] <knob> then systemctl restart networking.service
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232 [02:22:42] <knob> it took a looong time (about two minutes),
and when it got an ip address, it's one of those APIPA
addresses 169.254.xxx.xxx
233 [02:22:53] <dvs> knob,
replaced-url
234 [02:22:59] <knob> On my way!
235 [02:23:41] <knob> Odd... I don't have iwconfig installed
on this fresh machine.
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243 [02:31:33] <tinfoil-hat> Hey, I want to setup myself a small
test environment on my 16GB RAM laptop. I have nointernet at home
and download an apt-mirror rn from a public hotspot. what could you
recommand getting in depth into for improving my unix skills? I
tought of DNS/DHCP/Postfix and NTP. It has to work offline and I
have the possibillity for nested virtualisation. the documentations
I get via wget and set up an apache2 on my
244 [02:31:35] <tinfoil-hat> laptop. I have als over 100GB of
stackexchange stackoverflow archwiki etc. alrealy available offline.
what would you say is worth getting into for teaching myself unix
tools
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247 [02:34:09] <tinfoil-hat> I have set up a proxmox VM which
will hostmy Containers / VMs
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257 [02:44:56] <tinfoil-hat> I downloaded the archives from zim
torrent's so I didn't wget 100GB websites :D
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315 [03:41:35] <terr__> I downed the network interface. Now it
won't come back up. ip link set wlp2s0 up should do it
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318 [03:43:45] <tabb> sudo service networking start
319 [03:43:45] <tabb> ?
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323 [03:45:33] <terr__> no carrier
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327 [03:46:35] <terr__> it should be running WiFI
328 [03:47:36] <terr__> I am currently on a laptop in windows. I
have the identical machine on my desk. It should be running on the
same subnet
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362 [04:09:29] <OS-67250> hello
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365 [04:10:44] <terr> test
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367 [04:12:03] <bit1> hi!
368 [04:12:55] <bit1> I've this issue: " adduser: No
UID/GID pair is available in the range 1000-59999 (FIRST_UID -
LAST_UID)" Any hint please?
369 [04:13:22] <OS-67250> should i register first?
370 [04:13:43] <nkuttler> OS-67250: on freenode? doesn't
matter here
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375 [04:16:19] <OS-67250> oh thanks
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382 [04:22:30] <terr> my linux box cannot see a nameserver
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393 [04:38:51] <tinfoil-hat> am I wrong here with my question?
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405 [04:45:49] <terr> my linux box cannot see a nameserver
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408 [04:46:24] <nkuttler> terr: which command do you use and
which error do you get?
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412 [04:48:59] <epsilon> terr: what's in /etc/resolv.conf?
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419 [04:53:43] <terr> 192.168.0.1
420 [04:53:57] <terr> which of course is wrong
421 [04:54:05] <nkuttler> yes, see man 5 resolv.conf
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423 [04:56:27] <terr> It was working. I downed the interface. ip
link set would not bring it back up and service also did not. So I
went to the KDE whatchmaycall it and found the WiFI icon and brought
the link back up - that worked. Then I ran service networking start
and the network is up - the nameserver is worng
424 [04:58:01] <terr> service should have set the correct
nameserver. But this is a new install I'm working on and I
don't even know what it should be. And it really doesn't
matter if I can find one that works for now.
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427 [04:59:43] <terr> I usually run my own DNS but I'm not
right now. So it should default to my upstream.
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434 [05:02:45] <terr> wait a sec. I ran nsloopup on this windows
box and it does show 192.168.0.1 as dlinkrouter
435 [05:03:02] <terr> wait a sec. I ran nslookup on this windows
box and it does show 192.168.0.1 as dlinkrouter
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444 [05:06:44] <terr> when I ping google.com I get Temporary
failure in name resolution.. It sees 192.168.0.1
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451 [05:09:32] <epsilon> an you ping 192.168.0.1
452 [05:09:35] <epsilon> *can
453 [05:11:12] <terr> yes
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455 [05:11:57] <epsilon> and you have internet, like ping
1.1.1.1?
456 [05:12:11] <terr> I can ping 192.168.0.103 from my internal
lan
457 [05:12:19] <terr> let me try
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459 [05:12:46] <terr> yup. 1.1.1.1 works
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462 [05:13:30] <Unit193> Did you try `dig @8.8.8.8 google.com`
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464 [05:13:49] <terr> dig isd not installed
465 [05:14:32] <epsilon> does /etc/resolv.conf say nameserver
192.168.0.1?
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468 [05:14:52] <terr> epsilon, yup it does
469 [05:15:18] <Unit193> ``host google.com 8.8.8.8` would be the
other option, then. So it almost sounds as if your router isn't
setting up a nameserver for you.
470 [05:15:25] <epsilon> possible the dns on dlink has wrong
uplink dns or the service died... did you restart the router?
471 [05:15:44] <terr> yes - the windows box works
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473 [05:16:08] <epsilon> hmm
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475 [05:17:44] <terr> host says no servers can be reached
476 [05:17:51] <Unit193> I may have missed it, was it mentioned
that the windows box was pointing at the router for DNS as well?
477 [05:18:24] <terr> yes it is and it works
478 [05:19:18] <terr> I can rerun networking
479 [05:19:20] <Unit193> Odd attempt, but you could drop
"nameserver 8.8.8.8" in /etc/resolv.conf and see if that
works. Are you using systemd-resolved?
480 [05:19:34] <Unit193> (I don't tend to use that as it
tends to..be broken.)
481 [05:20:08] <terr> default - stretch. I am upgrading to buster
and this machine is in pieces
482 [05:21:06] <terr> does the resolved re-read resolve.conf over
and over?
483 [05:21:19] <terr> s/resolved/resolver/
484 [05:21:42] <Unit193> Dunno, never used it long enough.
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486 [05:24:11] <terr> I added the nameserver line. didn't
work
487 [05:24:32] <terr> I'kk try a network restart
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489 [05:26:26] <terr> funny. I ran service networking restart and
resolve.conf is unchanged
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491 [05:29:32] <terr> I can ping both nameservers: 192.169.0.1
and 8.8.8.8
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494 [05:30:32] <Unit193> terr: Did you try specifically using
`host` with 192.169.0.1?
495 [05:30:32] <terr> what daemon actually does the resolving?
bind?
496 [05:31:31] <terr> host does not work with 192.168.0.1
497 [05:32:01] <jelly> 192.169.0.1/16 is a publicly assigned
segment, if you use that for a private network you won't be
able to access that part of the internet
498 [05:32:32] <Unit193> jelly: Pretty sure that's a typo,
based on the discussion above.
499 [05:33:05] <jelly> ah, good
500 [05:33:07] <terr> no I saw 169 and thought 169 was a typo
501 [05:33:58] <terr> host dos not see 192.169.0.1
502 [05:34:24] <Unit193> So `host` works with Google's DNS,
but not your router. Using /etc/resolv.conf doesn't work with
Google's DNS though. This is fun.
503 [05:34:38] <terr> host does not woprk with anything
504 [05:35:11] <terr> host does not see 192.168.0.1
505 [05:35:27] <Unit193> Oh.
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507 [05:36:45] <Lady_Aleena> Hello everyone. My sound volume
still does not work completely in VLC. I still can't get the
volume to go below 20%, unless I am on a page in a browser that
plays something (like YouTube), then the volume will go down.
However, once that page is closed, the volume shoots back up to 20%,
even if I have it set to 10%. This is so very annoying, especially
when some albums start playing from my playlist. So why do I have
full control of my
508 [05:36:45] <Lady_Aleena> volume in the browser but not VLC?
Does this belong here or #videolan?
509 [05:36:55] <terr> host does not see 127.0.0.1
510 [05:38:09] <terr> hi Lady_Aleena
511 [05:38:19] <Lady_Aleena> Hello terr
512 [05:38:46] <terr> our schools are now shut down - will be
until at least September
513 [05:39:01] <terr> I also have the epidemiology numbers.. the
REAL ones
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533 [05:58:55] <terr> I am going to watch the news. bbl
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558 [06:30:18] <g0d_shatter> hello all, I've got a wireless
card issue on sid that I've been trying to finagle for weeks
now and just haven't made any progress
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560 [06:31:03] <g0d_shatter> for whatever reason the driver
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figure out why
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570 [06:49:02] <terr> back?
571 [06:51:11] <terr> traceroute works. host does not
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580 [07:04:33] <sponix> !ssb
581 [07:04:33] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install
build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source
packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation
options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid
see <uupdate>.
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589 [07:09:41] <sponix> !uupdate
590 [07:09:41] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package)
upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if
the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get
source foo; wget -nd
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593 [07:11:06] <Unit193> terr: Did you poke around with
resolvectl?
594 [07:11:12] <Unit193> sponix: Looking for something specific?
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598 [07:13:49] <OS-67250> hello
599 [07:13:59] <sponix> Unit193: I used ssb to build rtorrent
0.9.8 and its 2 or 3 deps off sid and it has been solid. But now all
of a sudden it is taking a dump on me often (like every couple of
hours)
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603 [07:14:38] <Unit193> Ouch, I see.
604 [07:17:04] <sponix> it of course is going to work absolutely
fine while I am setting here watching it :P
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607 [07:17:44] <sponix> got it running on a console, at least I
will snag the lines when it terminates again. And might take it a
step further and run it with strace next time
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628 [07:36:25] <terr> Unit193, command does not exist
629 [07:36:45] <john___> Which GPU should I get for KVM GPU
passthrough? I have a build with a Ryzen and a RX 580 8GB, but I
don't have a spare GPU
630 [07:36:50] <john___> I need to run a Windows KVM
631 [07:36:51] <Unit193> Ah, OK.
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633 [07:37:50] <terr> Unit193, this machine is not fully
configured
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637 [07:41:28] <sponix> john___: passthrough is normally easiest
if you have one GPU from each Team.. One RX 580 for example and one
Nvidia 1060
638 [07:41:53] <sponix> john___: then you can just block a the
driver level of Linux to the card you want to pass through to the VM
639 [07:43:05] <terr> sponix, this would mean you can run
dedicated monitors for the VM?
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641 [07:43:29] <john___> So is it recommended to get a Nvidia
card for passthrough if I have a Radeon?
642 [07:43:43] <john___> What happens if I have Radeon and
Radeon?
643 [07:43:54] <sponix> john___: from my readings and experience
- Yes that is easiest.
644 [07:44:05] <terr> john___, you would be using the same driver
645 [07:44:31] <sponix> john___: If both cards use amdgpu, or
nvidia for example. Then you have to block on my loading with the
pci-id instead of just the driver itself. it is a bit harder, but
can still be done
646 [07:45:01] <sponix> terr: I haven't gotten it to work
with an extra monitor yet, as I haven't had a spare prior.
Going to hopefully give this another go in a week or so
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648 [07:45:22] <john___> So which Nvidia should I get? I plan to
do basic tasks and some simple 1080p video editing using Davinci
Resolve
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650 [07:45:40] <sponix> john___: there is a fair amount of
documentation on how this is done online now. And I have barely
scratched the surface. highly recommend you read up
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652 [07:45:58] <terr> I will be getting to it - weeks form now
653 [07:46:08] <john___> Would a GT 1030 be enough?
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655 [07:46:20] <sponix> john___: well, just a heads up - There is
a Linux Native version of DaVinci Resolve
656 [07:46:22] <terr> for me it will be svga and DP or DVI
657 [07:46:40] <john___> I cannot get Davinci working because it
supports only CentOS and RHEL
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659 [07:46:48] <john___> They don't support Debian branch
660 [07:46:59] <john___> I bet Fedora won't count
661 [07:47:00] <sponix> john___: then you need to do a bit of
research on that also :)
662 [07:47:13] <john___> Btw is RHEL and Fedora the same branch?
663 [07:47:50] <sponix>
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665 [07:49:31] <john___> Thanks
666 [07:49:51] <sponix> Unit193: it seems to be an older libcurl4
with the newer rtorrent giving issues according to the Interwebs. So
I'm going to do Sid libcurl4, libtorrent, and rtorrent -- See
if those 3 all being built from Sid source works better than just
the ladder 2
667 [07:49:56] <Lady_Aleena> Re-ask: My sound volume still does
not work completely in VLC. I still can't get the volume to go
below 20%, unless I am on a page in a browser that plays something
(like YouTube), then the volume will go down. However, once that
page is closed, the volume shoots back up to 20%, even if I have it
set to 10%. This is so very annoying, especially when some albums
start playing from my playlist. So why do I have full control of my
volume
668 [07:49:56] <Lady_Aleena> in the browser but not VLC? Does
this belong here or #videolan?
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670 [07:50:29] <sponix> Lady_Aleena: for sound install and tinker
with pavucontrol
671 [07:50:48] <Unit193> sponix: Starting to sound like a bit of
a rabbit hole, more so if you're going for curl..
672 [07:50:52] <Ede|Popede> oh yes. volume. i only use the
mousewheel which changes the values by 5%, sometimes still i look at
pavucontrol and it is at values like 87%.
673 [07:51:00] <sponix> Lady_Aleena: it is a nice gui showing all
your outputs, levels, etc
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675 [07:52:20] <sponix> Unit193: it is, but torrenting is a major
role on my rig... I find it odd that Buster ended up with 0.9.7 -
when 0.9.6 is actually classified as rtorrent "stable" and
0.9.8 is current -- WTF did Buster end up in the middle with 0.9.7
lol
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677 [07:52:36] <Ede|Popede> i can remember from mplayer days (now
i'm on mpv) something like soft volume. sometimes it's the
application, sometimes the system. maybe the program then changes
its channel following its interface setting, and when it's
closed it changes it back.
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679 [07:53:49] <Unit193> sponix: I see. I don't do a whole
lot so deluge is good enough. That I have patched and backported. :3
680 [07:55:19] <john___> Do people usually buy a GPU just to run
KVM passthrough?
681 [07:55:36] <john___> I am thinking of just dual booting or
getting a GPU for the passthrough
682 [07:55:56] <john___> My printer is not supported with Linux
so I have to run Windows alongside my Linux install
683 [07:56:12] <john___> And Windows-only apps
684 [07:56:16] <john___> Like Office
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686 [08:00:12] <sponix> john___: I firmly believe in using the
right tool for the job. If most of the things you do depend on
Windows 10, might as well run that, and just put Debian 10 or so in
a Virtual Machine and have it do what little you may need from Linux
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688 [08:01:33] <sponix> john___: setting up gpu passthrough on
Linux can be a bitch. If you struggled with DaVinci Resolve,
I'm not sure you are up to the task. Unless doing a cheat with
a VM specific distro like Proxmox that does all the heavy lifting
for you
689 [08:01:38] <sponix> !Proxmox
690 [08:01:38] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is
a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a
virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not
supported in #debian. There's an unofficial
proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see
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691 [08:02:42] <Lady_Aleena> sponix, I have pavucontrol
installed. I turn the volume on VLC to 10% in pavucontrol, and the
sound is still 20%.
692 [08:03:07] <Lady_Aleena> I've looked in alsamixer,
pavucontrol, vlc itself, and nothing works.
693 [08:04:16] <sponix> Lady_Aleena: sudo apt install mpv
smplayer
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695 [08:04:27] <Lady_Aleena> what is that?
696 [08:04:37] <sponix> Lady_Aleena: try doing your media
playback with smplayer after that, see if it does better than vlc
(does well for me)
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698 [08:05:01] <Lady_Aleena> So, those are alternate players?
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700 [08:05:42] <sponix> Lady_Aleena: yes mpv will be the backend
(and is a player itself if you want, but is bare bones), and
smplayer is a frontend gui that is nicer for mpv
701 [08:06:15] <sponix> Lady_Aleena:
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704 [08:07:46] <Lady_Aleena> I can't change the volume of
SMPlayer with the buttons on my keyboard.
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707 [08:12:29] <sponix> buttons on your keyboard with volume
skipping in 10/20 % increments is likely the issue to start off with
:)
708 [08:13:42] <Lady_Aleena> It is 5% increments.
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710 [08:15:21] <jelly> Lady_Aleena: in pavucontrol, fix the
volume on the output device first, then fix the volume on the app
that's playing
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712 [08:15:32] <terr> I am goign to give up on this nameserver
problem for tonight... I am getting really tired
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714 [08:16:07] <sponix> terr: wish you the best of luck
715 [08:16:14] <sponix> I need to crash back out myself
716 [08:17:00] <Lady_Aleena> jelly, what am I looking for on the
output devices screen?
717 [08:17:12] <jelly> Lady_Aleena: everything to be set to 100%
718 [08:17:20] <terr> sponix, I did try dhclient - it gives me an
eror - RTNETLINK says file exists
719 [08:17:25] <Lady_Aleena> It's there.
720 [08:17:40] <jelly> good, then you can deal with per-app
settings
721 [08:18:44] <Lady_Aleena> And I keep trying to slide the sound
below 20%, but the volume doesn't change in pavucontrol.
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723 [08:20:35] <sponix> Unit193: well, I built and installed Sid
libcurl4 from source (ssb), then did libtorrent against that and
installed, then built rtorrent itself one more time and installed
that also. So, I guess by tomorrow I'll know if libcurl4 being
7.68 instead of 7.64 under rtorrent 0.9.8 is really the fix
724 [08:20:41] <Lady_Aleena> VLC Media Player audio stream is set
at 5%, but it still sounds 20%.
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726 [08:21:45] <Lady_Aleena> Is this is VLC problem? Should I
take it to #videolan?
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745 [08:32:57] <Time-Warp> everyone *.edge.kernel.org SSL Certs
are EXPIRED
746 [08:33:05] <Time-Warp> repos are down
747 [08:33:17] <sponix2ipfw> Lady_Aleena: sure give it a try
748 [08:33:34] <sponix2ipfw> Time-Warp: nice
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754 [08:37:25] <sponix2ipfw> Time-Warp: I normally use kernel.org
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760 [08:42:00] <Time-Warp> same here LOL
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775 [08:57:53] <Lady_Aleena> Well, that's it. I will just
have to deal with this forever, or until which ever program is
messed gets fixed. I don't know if it is pulse audio or VLC.
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782 [09:05:09] <jelly> sponix2ipfw: Time-Warp probably did not
realize https repos -- still not official in any way
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911 [10:15:33] <Unit193> Amusingly I'm tripping over that
too now with uscan, sprinkle a little `faketime` and all is
forgiven. :3
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940 [10:31:22] <jelly> I've had to set time to like 2010 to
make some debian 6 (or 7?) systems be able to grab packages from
archive.d.o
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1119 [12:15:09] <kats99> So guys I tried to create a torrent but
the other person cannot download it unless I completely disable the
firewall.. I changed the port in the torrent client and allowed it
in the firewall settings but it still won't work unless I
completely disable the firewall
1120 [12:16:09] <kats99> I don't want to disable the firewall
every time I seed. What to do?
1121 [12:16:13] <watom> kats99 show your rules or there is no way
to debug
1122 [12:16:21] <kats99> Ok
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1125 [12:16:42] <kats99> I'll type it here. It's not
much
1126 [12:18:08] <kats99> nvm ill post the link
1127 [12:18:09] <kats99>
replaced-url
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1129 [12:18:44] <kats99> So the port in the torrent client is
54623
1130 [12:19:19] <watom> that's not enough verbose. a
iptables-save dump would be really nicer
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1132 [12:20:28] <kats99>
replaced-url
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1136 [12:21:32] <watom> i'm confused. it looks like there
aren't rules
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1138 [12:22:06] <kats99> I thought rules were set in ufw. Was I
wrong?
1139 [12:22:29] <watom> ufw is an interface. the output of
iptables-save is the current active rules
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1141 [12:22:53] <kats99> Oh ok..
1142 [12:23:00] <watom> at the moment you have no firewall on
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1146 [12:25:23] <kats99> yes i disabled it
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1148 [12:26:21] <kats99> So even if I create a rule using ufw, it
won't create an actual rule and I have to create it in iptables
right?
1149 [12:27:07] <watom> you just need to turn on ufw
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1151 [12:27:39] <watom> forgot about iptables if you are just
using ufw. you need a way to show your ufw configuration now if you
want help with that
1152 [12:28:00] <kats99> yes i turned it on.. wait ill dump it
again.
1153 [12:28:43] <kats99>
replaced-url
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1158 [12:30:46] <watom> kats99 you should focus only on ufw. i
asked for iptables only since i didn't know you were using ufw.
if the first paste you made was an ufw list of rules i think it
should just works fine your torrent client.
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1162 [12:31:18] <kats99> Yes the first paste was from ufw
1163 [12:31:38] <watom> it should works already
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1167 [12:32:06] <kats99> But my client refuses to even retrieve
the metadata if the firewall is on with the existing rules
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1169 [12:32:34] <watom> do you forward that port from your router?
1170 [12:32:42] <kats99> i don't use a router
1171 [12:33:00] <kats99> I use hotspot
1172 [12:33:21] <kats99> and i don't forward any ports
1173 [12:36:02] <kats99> If I use 1234 in my allow connections
from port in the client and add a rule to allow incoming to 1234 in
firewall then why does my client not work?
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1176 [12:37:09] <watom> if ssh is working than everything else
should be as well
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1179 [12:37:39] <watom> if not maybe your client require more than
that
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1181 [12:38:16] <kats99> Yeah ssh works well..and I use
qbittorent.. So the problem lies in my client.
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1183 [12:39:20] <watom> you can try to figure out if the port is
opened using
replaced-url
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1186 [12:40:44] <kats99> oh ok
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have to allow this port in the firewall.
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1239 [13:10:13] <rs2009> Anyone in for a Debian Rolling Release
Edition?
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1243 [13:12:04] <rs2009> Maybe someone would like to start a
Debian Newspaper? If so, you could message...
1244 [13:12:30] <abrotman> There already is such a thing
1245 [13:13:03] <abrotman> dpkg: dpn
1246 [13:13:03] <dpkg> [dpn] Debian Project News (replaced-url
1247 [13:13:29] <rs2009> Ah, my mistake. :)
1248 [13:13:47] <rs2009> But Rolling Release Edition perhaps...
1249 [13:15:03] <petn-randall> rs2009: Which rolling release?
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1253 [13:16:09] <rs2009> petn-randall: If Debian could have an
official Rolling Release Edition (official, not derivative
distribution).
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1258 [13:18:10] <petn-randall> rs2009: I don't think it would
be popular, due to the fact that rolling releases have impossible
release management, and not many people are interested in it for
those reasons.
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1265 [13:20:11] <rs2009> petn-randall: Debian could have a special
edition though. It could be mainly for users who aren't worried
about system issues and do not like the old version set of Debian
Stable.
1266 [13:20:33] <Ede|Popede> after all it would be a fork
probably. with the long release cycles of debian sometimes having
some newer version wouldn't be bad, but that would mean taking
point releases and building up on them. including all the testing
and making the packages compatible with a maybe 2 years old release.
1267 [13:21:11] <petn-randall> rs2009: Have you tried
stable-backports yet?
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1269 [13:21:53] <rs2009> Yup, but these packages do cause some
issues.
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1272 [13:22:06] <JyZyXEL> if one is not worried about facing
issues, then why not testing or sid?
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1276 [13:22:44] <petn-randall> Well, stable-backports is a more
stable setup than a rolling release. Now you know that a rolling
release would be a lot worse ...
1277 [13:22:57] <joepublic> I use and love sid.
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1279 [13:23:24] <rs2009> Sid has many issues. I wasn't able
to perform live-build on it.
1280 [13:23:57] <joepublic> Yeah, sid's for users who
aren't worried about system issues and do not like the old
version set of Debian Stable
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1282 [13:24:32] <rs2009> Yup, but 'sid' is a gone case.
It wouldn't boot after installation.
1283 [13:24:49] <joepublic> install stable, upgrade to sid is the
usual progression
1284 [13:25:49] <rs2009> But most people do not upgrade to
'sid' because of these issues, even though they are fine
with a slightly unstable system.
1285 [13:26:31] <joepublic> agreed. sid's not for general
consumption.
1286 [13:27:16] <rs2009> joepublic: +1; Sid needs to be refined to
build a rolling release edition.
1287 [13:27:17] <diogenes_> Hello guys, there are some appimages
that give the following error when you try to run them: "The
SUID sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured
correctly...", there are 2 workarounds how to deal with it: 1)
sudo sysctl kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1 2) run it with
--no-sandbox. My question is, which one of the solutions is more of
a security risk?
1288 [13:27:31] <sponix2ipfw> joepublic: why learn how to use
Debian when instead we can come in recommending to change it
1289 [13:28:14] <JyZyXEL> didn't aptosid already try that
1290 [13:28:30] <joepublic> sponix2ipfw, i guess a serious answer
to that would be that debian is in part intended to serve as a base
for downstream distros, which rs2009 seems to be proposing?
1291 [13:28:46] <sponix2ipfw> diogenes_: what app images are they?
1292 [13:29:15] <JyZyXEL> it's now discontinued
1293 [13:29:16] <petn-randall> rs2009: Let us know how far you get
with it!
1294 [13:29:35] <diogenes_> sponix2ipfw, one is ungoogled-chromium
and another one is a game called Krunker.
1295 [13:29:54] <rs2009> petn-randall: +1; thanks :)
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1297 [13:30:07] <petn-randall> diogenes_: 1) is the better
solution. I don't know why it's not enabled by default on
systems.
1298 [13:30:16] <rs2009> But, I think we need to involve a Debian
Developer.
1299 [13:30:22] <diogenes_> petn-randall, thanks!
1300 [13:30:28] <joepublic> just one?
1301 [13:31:23] <rs2009> joepublic: As many as we can gather...
1302 [13:31:38] <sponix2ipfw> rs2009: run Arch for a month. Then
see how you feel
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1304 [13:32:15] <rs2009> :) Tried out Arch. Really liked it, but
still want to stick to the Debian Ecosystem.
1305 [13:32:17] <petn-randall> rs2009: You can always start
working on it, and through your efforts convince other DDs that
it's a good and worthing thing to spend time on.
1306 [13:32:54] <petn-randall> Other than that, rolling releases
have already been discussed to death, and the general consensus was
that it's not worth the time and effort.
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1308 [13:33:17] <joepublic> If I started working on a debian
derivative, it would be along the lines of parabola
1309 [13:33:22] <rs2009> petn-randall: I know, but they never grew
into big projects
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1313 [13:35:24] <rs2009> joepublic: Well, I'm very keen to
start a Debian Derivative :)
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1316 [13:37:55] <joepublic> testing is already as close to a
rolling release as anyone would need from Debian proper, I'd
say
1317 [13:38:01] <salkin-mada> debian stable, testing, sid and
rolling release sounds interesting. maybe it could be called RC :)
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1319 [13:38:38] <rs2009> Testing seems to be, but it does have
many... bugs
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1323 [13:39:06] <joepublic> hence the name
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1326 [13:39:59] <rs2009> Thus it boils down to what I said (and
those who think thus are correct): Debian Testing & Sid have
many... bugs.
1327 [13:40:00] <napman> stable is stable, testing is testing and
sid is unstable.... nothing new
1328 [13:40:17] <rs2009> Yup, but what about rolling :)
1329 [13:40:40] <joepublic> I repent of my participation in this
discussion and apologize to all concerned.
1330 [13:40:46] <napman> no rolling in debian
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1333 [13:41:19] <rs2009> napman: but what if it was created :)
1334 [13:41:22] <petn-randall> napman: rs2009 wants to create a
rolling release and is looking for volunteers to do that work.
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1339 [13:43:06] <rs2009> Not looking for volunteers to do the
whole work, but just if they could contribute and help in running
the project and generating ISOs etc.
1340 [13:43:15] <rs2009> And packages...
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1342 [13:44:42] <petn-randall> I'm not stopping you, I'm
just saying if you want *anyone* to join your effort you'll
need to have some progress to show. We have someone suggesting a
rolling release twice a month. Didn't happen yet.
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1345 [13:45:25] <rs2009> Well, have started already :) Ubuntu
Members will know, but I wanted to shift base to Debian...
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1350 [13:46:48] <petn-randall> Cool, so where can I download and
look at this rolling release?
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1352 [13:48:19] <rs2009> Problem is, I reinstalled the OS on my
server!! But don't worry, will send today later...
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1354 [13:48:35] <rs2009> Just tell me your timezone and will send
accordingly
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1359 [13:50:54] <rs2009> Am not including an installer, though.
Perstitance can be acheived and person can copy partitions to
Desktop.
1360 [13:51:05] <rs2009> *persistance
1361 [13:51:29] <rs2009> Note: Am IST.
1362 [13:51:45] <rs2009> Hope timezone maches
1363 [13:51:55] <rs2009> *matches
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1369 [13:54:37] <Wulf> Hello! It looks like there are different
copy+paste buffers. Usually when I select text using left mouse
button, I can later paste it with middle button. But sometimes this
doesn't work and I paste whatever was in the "ctrl-c"
buffer before, i.e. I might paste something confidential by
accident. This happens mostly (always?) in gnome-terminal. Running
debian/sid and the bug is not a recent one. Any ideas?
1370 [13:54:40] <rs2009> Using Kernel 5.4 (will provide 5.5 as
optional)
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1374 [13:56:11] <petn-randall> Wulf: You have two cut buffers, the
one accessed with ctrl + x/c/v, and the where you mark text with the
mouse to copy, and middle-click for paste. They are different for
historical reasons. Most DEs allow a setting to sync them.
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1377 [13:57:11] <rs2009> Including a quick install package
installer...
1378 [13:57:46] <rs2009> Just needed info: Ubuntu kernel would
work on Debian, wouldn't it?
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1380 [13:58:23] <Wulf> petn-randall: gnome3. Where can I find the
setting?
1381 [13:58:32] <petn-randall> rs2009: No idea. That wouldn't
be a Debian rolling release then, though.
1382 [13:58:46] <petn-randall> Wulf: Are you running gnome?
1383 [13:58:55] <Wulf> petn-randall: gnome3
1384 [13:59:10] <rs2009> petn-randall: Thanks...
1385 [14:01:06] <petn-randall> Wulf: Not sure how the setting is
called. Other option is to disable the implicit copy when
highlighting text.
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1387 [14:01:21] <Wulf> petn-randall: but I like that feature a lot
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1393 [14:07:52] <petn-randall> Wulf:
replaced-url
1394 [14:07:54] <rs2009> Am building on sid (as I gave a hint
before)
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1396 [14:08:24] <petn-randall> You probably want to use one of the
managers that are built for gnome.
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1401 [14:09:50] <Wulf> petn-randall: thanks, will try
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1410 [14:12:29] <terr> I am going to see if I can get a nameserver
accessible in this Debian box. host does not work... on any
addresses. however traceroute is happy
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1425 [14:26:45] <rs2009> Am using KDE...
1426 [14:28:43] <terr> rs2009, and?
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1430 [14:29:43] <rs2009> am hosting shell scripts for people to
install the latest packages
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1433 [14:32:58] <terr> rs2009, I don't follow at all
1434 [14:33:46] <rs2009> Nah you were asking what else...
1435 [14:34:01] <rs2009> Have answered the question :)
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1441 [14:36:25] <Ede|Popede> wulf: not exactly the same, but
sometimes... did you check that the original textmarking is still
around?
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1443 [14:37:08] <rs2009> Generating the ISO file now...
1444 [14:38:01] <Wulf> Ede|Popede: It usually doesn't matter
if I still have the text selected. The problem persists until I
manually use ctrl-c to copy something, then the mouse-only
copy+paste works again.
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1459 [14:50:30] <JustASlacker> what to do when '/usr/bin/env
php' just hangs...
1460 [14:50:37] * JustASlacker does the thinking face
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1466 [14:52:26] <themill> "aptitude purge ~nphp~i"
normally solves my problems with php.
1467 [14:52:38] <Posterdati> hi
1468 [14:52:51] <Posterdati> plasma-discover is crap!
1469 [14:53:03] <themill> Posterdati: yes.
1470 [14:53:33] <Posterdati> how can be possible that this program
is in Debian when oolite is not (for example)?
1471 [14:53:45] <Posterdati> it is absurd
1472 [14:54:24] <themill> That question makes no sense.
1473 [14:55:12] <Posterdati> because you're not an engineer
1474 [14:55:17] <themill> orly
1475 [14:55:42] <themill> Out of interest, have you volunteered to
package oolite?
1476 [14:56:36] <Posterdati> no
1477 [14:56:48] <Posterdati> oolite is an example...
1478 [14:57:00] <themill> Things get packaged when people
volunteer to do so.
1479 [14:57:27] <themill> Also, oolite was relies on libraries
that no longer exist and was removed
1480 [14:57:28] <Posterdati> oolite was removed due to a library
which is too old, BUT WORKING
1481 [14:58:08] <oiaohm> Posterdati: define working.
1482 [14:58:12] <themill> Did you volunteer to maintain libmozjs?
1483 [14:58:29] <Posterdati> no, it is out of my interest
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1485 [14:58:46] <oiaohm> Posterdati: if you mean working without
known security faults the answer is that it was depending on a
library that no longer worked.
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1487 [14:59:09] <themill> Posterdati: right. And now you
understand why it is not in Debian.
1488 [14:59:10] <Posterdati> oiaohm: consider the opposite of
plasma-discover behaviour
1489 [14:59:30] <terr> I shut down my networking and I am trying
to bring it back up. host cannot find anything for instance.
dhclient bitchs about a file RTNETLINK says one exists... of course
doesn't tell me which one - and I"m not even sure (as in
clueless) if this is what I should be looking at.
1490 [14:59:36] <oiaohm> Posterdati: plasma-discover like it or
not is getting the security updates.
1491 [14:59:47] <oiaohm> Posterdati: so problem is define of
working.
1492 [14:59:47] <Posterdati> themill: but a non working program is
in Debian...
1493 [15:00:00] <themill> Posterdati: there are lots of bugs in
Debian
1494 [15:00:01] <Posterdati> oiaohm: no it is not
1495 [15:00:24] <Posterdati> oiaohm: something is working because
it acts per its specifications!
1496 [15:00:25] <themill> Posterdati: plasma-discover works for
some things quite well. Not things that I care about.
1497 [15:01:06] <Posterdati> themill: never see it working per its
specifications on Buster
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1500 [15:05:02] <__marco> Hello. Sometime I have the feeling that
my system is not really responsive and this happens when hd is
involved. Not always, just from time to time. I don't know what
to look at
1501 [15:06:45] <terr> __marco, if you system CPU load is low and
your HDD is high in means its IO bound. Look for a faster disk.
1502 [15:07:07] <__marco> It is a NVMe
1503 [15:07:08] <terr> __marco, do you know what process is doing
it?
1504 [15:07:26] <terr> I don't know what NCMe is
1505 [15:07:40] <__marco> terr, I notice this also with vim
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1508 [15:08:03] <oiaohm> Posterdati: I use testing.
replaced-url
1509 [15:08:35] <__marco> terr, If I want to save a file, it is
like it takes sometime (less than 1s) to start the operation, but
then operation itself is very fast
1510 [15:08:35] <oiaohm> Posterdati: just because software is in
the debian list does not mean it perfectly quality and never has.
Most import thing to remain in list is getting security fixes.
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1512 [15:08:57] <oiaohm> Posterdati: ie does not work at all is
not a security risk.
1513 [15:09:17] <__marco> My impression is like this, that it
takes some time to do the first step only, then all good
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1515 [15:09:41] <__marco> Like the latency is affected, not the
transfer speed
1516 [15:09:56] <terr> probably caching
1517 [15:10:16] <terr> caching can be on the disk itself.
1518 [15:10:38] <oiaohm> Any decent disc will have caching.
1519 [15:10:42] <oiaohm> in the controller.
1520 [15:11:09] <oiaohm> Even SSD
1521 [15:11:20] <terr> exactly. If its a problem... get an SSD
1522 [15:11:47] <__marco> It happened right now, I typed something
on the console, and it took sometime before seeing what I am typing
(lspci)
1523 [15:11:52] <terr> how big are the files?
1524 [15:12:04] <__marco> small files
1525 [15:12:14] <__marco> this is the HD 01:00.0 Non-Volatile
memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller
(rev 01)
1526 [15:12:16] <terr> you can set up a ram disk.
1527 [15:12:26] <__marco> not a slow one
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1529 [15:13:10] <oiaohm> terr: even ssd drives are helped by
having dram cache on the controller.
1530 [15:13:15] <terr> I don't know if this would work... but
mkinitrd does set up a ram disk. I think this can be done...
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1532 [15:13:37] <petn-randall> oiaohm: It's not a write
cache, though.
1533 [15:13:37] <terr> ya - Flash is very slow compared to ram
1534 [15:14:19] <petn-randall> __marco: Run 'atop' as
root in a terminal, and have a peek at it when your system seems to
stutter.
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1538 [15:14:40] <__marco> Timing buffered disk reads: 3474 MB in
3.00 seconds = 1157.93 MB/sec
1539 [15:14:43] <__marco> from hdparm
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1541 [15:15:21] <__marco> DSK | nvme0n1 | busy 100% | read 95156 |
write 86746 | MBr/s 0.2 | MBw/s 0.1 | avio 122 ms
1542 [15:15:22] <oiaohm> __marco:
replaced-url
1543 [15:16:54] <oiaohm> petn-randall: ssd with the large block
reorganization for write at times the dram cache on the controller
is major help. SSD without dram cache of some form have the
controller battling up hill at times and giving really horrible
performance.
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1545 [15:17:17] <terr> __marco, linux ram disk create
1546 [15:17:21] <terr> google
1547 [15:17:31] <__marco> ok, I will, thanks
1548 [15:17:41] <terr> create a big tam disk and copy the file to
it.
1549 [15:18:06] <terr> then... set up a low priority daemon to
copy from the ram disk to where it should live
1550 [15:18:12] <oiaohm> __marco: without knowing the model of
drive I cannot say that they are perfectly up to where they should
be but they are ball park for a lot of different SSD devices.
1551 [15:18:16] <JustASlacker> meh
1552 [15:18:40] <JustASlacker> straceing the php process revealed
it was complaing about a translation file missing
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1554 [15:18:51] <JustASlacker> without any error message at all
1555 [15:18:58] <terr> we used to use opticals to cache from huge
and very slow libraries
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1557 [15:19:00] <JustASlacker> and eating all the cpu's
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1559 [15:19:12] <JustASlacker> thank you drupal
1560 [15:19:12] <__marco> oiaohm: I can search. It is not 970, it
is a previous version, from 2016 I think
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1563 [15:19:39] <oiaohm> __marco: 2016 drive you are most likely
getting all you can out of it.
1564 [15:20:13] <oiaohm> __marco: writing on SSD is a lot harder
on the controller than reading. Particularly with needing to
regoranise the blocks and wear level.
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1566 [15:21:08] <__marco> oiaohm: not that I nothing else than
chatting, and still atop: avio 123 ms
1567 [15:21:27] <__marco> for the HD
1568 [15:21:27] <terr> oiaohm, idea is - cache it and have a
deamon work like a spooler and casually copy it to where it should
live.
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1573 [15:22:39] <mms_> I have 200gb of SSD that i want to use for
debian. in it further partitions should I make or should I install
all in one ?
1574 [15:22:40] <oiaohm> terr: unless you are transfering data
that you are filling the cache faster than it can be emptied.
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1577 [15:22:58] <mms_> its my home pc
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1579 [15:23:25] <terr> oiaohm, the cache on the controller can
easily fill. RAM is so damn cheap.
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1581 [15:24:33] <__marco> So, the model is Samsung SSD 950 PRO
256GB S2GLNX0H722874R
1582 [15:24:44] <__marco> Now I check ramdisk
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1584 [15:25:02] <terr> oiaohm, I would try setting up a ram disk
and use it as a cache because its probably easy to do and one will
learn a lot about the problem in the process
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1588 [15:26:43] <mms_> hello ?
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1590 [15:27:04] <mms_> on my home pc I have 200gb of SSD that i
want to use for debian. in it further partitions should I make or
should I install all in one ?
1591 [15:27:32] <diogenes_> mms_, i didn't get that.
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1593 [15:28:05] <mms_> diogenes_: I need help to decide on whether
to install debian in single partition or make multiple ones for its
file system
1594 [15:28:20] <mms_> I have 200GB of SSD that I can allocate to
debian
1595 [15:28:43] <mms_> or just 100GB will be enough for debian ?
1596 [15:29:35] <han-solo> under 40 should be more than enough ?
but depends on what all universe are you planning to bring in
1597 [15:29:40] <diogenes_> mms_, it depends if you intend to
store data that would be persistent then of course make a separate
/home, if not then all in one + /boot/efi (if you use UEFI).
1598 [15:30:50] <mms_> diogenes_: there is some EFI partition
already on SSD
1599 [15:31:01] <mms_> diogenes_: I do not know about it
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1601 [15:31:21] <diogenes_> mms_, it would be better to create the
additional one for Debian.
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1604 [15:31:58] <jelly> diogenes_: um, isn't it just one
efiboot partition per system?
1605 [15:32:01] <mms_> diogenes_: how to do that ? I instend to
install grub for multiboot
1606 [15:32:29] <mms_> diogenes_: my current hdd has grub, c:
windows, d: windows data, debian
1607 [15:32:33] <diogenes_> jelly, i always create separate ones,
for instance if there is a windows one, i create one for linux.
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1609 [15:32:52] <jelly> diogenes_: and how does the boot process
pick which one is used?
1610 [15:33:05] <mms_> diogenes_: there is also windows recovery
1611 [15:33:21] <diogenes_> jelly, it boots the linux one because
grub overrides windows's bootloader.
1612 [15:33:35] <diogenes_> and in grub it makes windows's
entry.
1613 [15:33:39] <jelly> diogenes_: that does not make sense in
UEFI context
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1616 [15:34:31] <__marco> I want to try update the kernel from
backport
1617 [15:34:39] <jelly> maybe I don't know how uefi boot
works. My understanding was all the boot loaders get installed to
one /boot/efi partition
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1619 [15:34:55] <mms_> diogenes_: so do I need to create more uefi
?
1620 [15:35:00] <jelly> and that's what I have on a
windows/debian/ubuntu laptop
1621 [15:35:22] <diogenes_> mms_, that's how i do, but you
can do as jelly says.
1622 [15:35:27] <mms_> ssd has 499mb healthy recovery, 512mb efi,
475gb ntfs healthy primary
1623 [15:35:55] <mms_> jelly: so no need for additional
1624 [15:36:00] <oiaohm> __marco:
replaced-url
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1626 [15:36:08] <jelly> diogenes_: how does UEFI know which
efiboot partition to use?
1627 [15:36:26] <mms_> jelly: so I can just partition 475db into
c: 150 d: 150 and linux 200
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1629 [15:36:54] <jelly>
replaced-url
1630 [15:37:50] <mms_> how about 75 for linux os and 100 for linux
data ? so home, var etc all in os partition and all new software
like android sdk etc in linux data ?
1631 [15:37:51] <diogenes_> jelly, i'm not that technical to
explain in detail the process but that's how i installed linux
alongside windows on many machines, i never touch any partition that
is already on that machine, so i always create additional ones and
when it boots, itpicks the linux efi bootloader.
1632 [15:37:55] <jelly> mms_: you can shrink that 475gb ntfs to
make place for linux. No idea how beneficial it is to have two ntfs
partitions for windows.
1633 [15:38:01] <oiaohm> __marco: yes if you are hitting the one
of the drives IOPS limits this does result in high ms values at
times.
1634 [15:38:35] <mms_> jelly: ok I will shrink it and then add 3
more paritions as i said
1635 [15:38:45] <jelly> diogenes_: yeah okay, but installer puts
that bootloader on the already existing efi partition, when
it's there
1636 [15:38:50] <mms_> so I will have 2 windows and 2 linux
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1639 [15:38:58] <mms_> jelly: ?
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1642 [15:39:31] <mms_> jelly: andy advise on linux side or should
I just leave it as single like I have on my hdd
1643 [15:39:38] <Anster> hellp
1644 [15:39:39] <jelly> mms_: 2 windows (if that
"rescue" partition is for windows), 1 efi system partion,
1 linux
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1647 [15:40:29] <mms_> jelly: there is already recovery, efi
1648 [15:40:44] <jelly> those will stay there.
1649 [15:40:52] <mms_> from the rest which is ntfs I will shrink
it and add 1 windows and 1 linux
1650 [15:41:18] <__marco> oiaohm: be back soon
1651 [15:41:18] <mms_> I do not know if windows is installed on
ntfs
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1653 [15:41:25] <jelly> it is.
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1656 [15:41:49] <mms_> jelly: is it windows os already install but
it was not booting
1657 [15:42:23] <jelly> oh. Maybe fix that first? Does the rescue
thing work?
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1659 [15:42:50] <mms_> jelly: fix ? i was thinking fresh install
on ssd
1660 [15:43:07] <oiaohm> mms_: for those who don't know what
they are doing I normallyr recommend not attempting putting 2 OS on
one drive.
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1662 [15:43:35] <oiaohm> mms_: there are just many ways with
repartitioning and so on to screw things up even worse.
1663 [15:43:35] <mms_> oiaohm: I already have hdd with both
1664 [15:43:57] <mms_> oiaohm: I got this new ssd from some one
and want to use it
1665 [15:44:05] <__marco> oiaohm: kernel 5.4, feels much
responsive now
1666 [15:44:08] <__marco> DSK | nvme0n1 | busy 0% | read 0 | write
24 | MBr/s 0.0 | MBw/s 0.1 | avio 1.50 ms
1667 [15:44:20] <__marco> avio 1.50ms
1668 [15:44:27] <mms_> so like i did for hdd I will just create
paritions and start installing
1669 [15:44:31] <__marco> before was 100x more
1670 [15:44:38] <oiaohm> __marco: that can be that the controller
has cleared it cache and is starting off fresh.
1671 [15:44:53] <mms_> that sounds ok to me windows 10 may be will
create or use the recovery efi etc.
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1673 [15:45:09] <__marco> ok, let's do some work and see if
numbers change
1674 [15:45:27] <oiaohm> __marco: basically the speeds I was
seeing look like you had pushed passed SSD rated limit and the
controller controller was going o hell.
1675 [15:45:44] <mms_> jelly: ?
1676 [15:46:10] <oiaohm> __marco: problem is OS don't let up
either when they get behind.
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1679 [15:46:31] <__marco> oiaohm: I see
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1681 [15:46:57] <oiaohm> __marco: yes SSD are good but they have
their breaking point.
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1686 [15:48:11] <mms_> oiaohm: so my ssd currently showd recovery,
efi, primary
1687 [15:48:12] <__marco> I wasn't doing anything, that was
strange
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1689 [15:49:00] <mms_> oiaohm: so I can just shring primary and
reinstall windows. and create two more paritions for windows ntfs
data and linux
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1692 [15:49:19] <oiaohm> mms_: fun part is what is in recovery.
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1694 [15:50:03] <oiaohm> mms_: this is why I normally don't
recommend this without knowledge of what the hell you are dealing
with. I have seen different OEM recovery modes restest the partition
tables back to factory.
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1696 [15:50:17] <oiaohm> when you repair windows.
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1698 [15:50:50] <mms_> oiaohm: earlier in hdd I had just upgraded
windows 7 to 10 like that by resintall
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1700 [15:51:16] <mms_> oiaohm: though it keeps showing windows 7
in windows 10 boot
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1702 [15:52:03] <mms_> oiaohm: I assume windows will understand
existing recovery and efi
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1705 [15:52:50] <oiaohm> That showing windows 7 in windows 10 boot
is that the boot loader entry in windows would be still there even
if the drive is removed.
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1707 [15:54:13] <oiaohm> mms_: the problem I have if recovery has
backed up the gpt partition table you modify the primary partition
size it will put it back before you modified if repair as been
triggered some OEM instances/drivers do this.
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1713 [15:55:25] <oiaohm> mms_: basically if you can install
windows and leave the space for Linux is safer. doing it after the
fact you are running bets that recovery or other things are not
going to kick you in teeth.
1714 [15:55:45] <jelly> mms_: I'd first fix windows, thne
when it works, install linux
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1716 [15:57:01] <mms_> jelly: I have windows iso using which I
will install
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1718 [15:57:18] <mms_> jelly: I assume install will ensure things
can boot using ssd
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1722 [15:58:36] <mms_> jelly: ?
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1735 [16:07:15] <queso> I have a laptop with Debian + XFCE on it.
I don't want it to sleep, hybernate, turn off, do anything like
that automatically. I've gone into the XFCE Power Manager and
turned everything off, same with XScreenSaver. But it still goes
into hybernate or something, and when I try turning it back on it
resets. I just want it disabled. Is there anything obvious I'm
missing?
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1741 [16:09:34] <jelly> mms_: I've only installed modern
windows like once. No opinions there.
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1747 [16:12:06] <mutantturkey> queso: probably something with udev
or such
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1749 [16:12:23] <mutantturkey> ah yes
1750 [16:12:37] <mutantturkey> google points to systemd being
retarded
1751 [16:12:45] <mutantturkey> look at HandleLidClose
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1753 [16:13:02] <mutantturkey> queso:
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1759 [16:15:55] <__marco> oiaohm: now the system feels blazing
fast :D
1760 [16:16:02] <__marco> gimp opens in a second
1761 [16:16:09] <__marco> before was fast
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1764 [16:17:06] <queso> mutantturkey: Thanks. It also has been
doing it when I don't even close the lid.
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1800 [16:39:20] <deb__> Hi. Where is the appropriate place to ask
questions about the Debian package format?
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1802 [16:39:51] <Krennic> debian=ubuntu
1803 [16:39:53] <Krennic> :P
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1805 [16:40:37] <joepublic> dpkg, tell krennic about debian is not
ubuntu
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1807 [16:41:49] <petn-randall> deb__: Really depends on which OS
you're working.
1808 [16:41:56] <Krennic> they use the same sudo apt the same
packeges
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1811 [16:42:12] <petn-randall> Krennic: Seems like you didn't
read what the bot sent you.
1812 [16:42:24] <joepublic> petn-randall, there's no factoid
by that name.
1813 [16:42:29] <Krennic> no cause im +R
1814 [16:42:37] <deb__> petn-randall: I am trying to modify the
contents of a deb package. I am using deb-pkg-tools which depends on
the Deb822 python package, but I am getting decoding errors.
1815 [16:42:57] <greycat> Krennic: and dpkg is registered...
1816 [16:43:00] <petn-randall> !based on debian
1817 [16:43:00] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
replaced-url
1818 [16:43:03] <petn-randall> Krennic: ^^^
1819 [16:44:07] <petn-randall> deb__: There's #packaging for
general questions, and #debian-mentors if you're packaging
software for inclusion in Debian.
1820 [16:44:22] <Krennic> well greycat i sond see eny msg or query
from the bot in my irssi client
1821 [16:44:41] <Krennic> but ty i just read what appear in the
main channel
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1825 [16:46:14] <deb__> Thanks
1826 [16:46:56] <deb__> It seems #packaging is an empty channel/
1827 [16:47:10] <greycat> Other network, probably.
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1829 [16:47:48] <deb__> What is the hostname/port of the other
network?
1830 [16:47:53] <greycat> !oftc
1831 [16:47:54] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology
Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC
network: irc.oftc.net. You may (or may not) be connected to
OFTC's network.
replaced-url
1832 [16:47:59] <deb__> Thank you.
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1835 [16:52:10] <knob> I downloaded the Debian10 Live cd (Xfce)
yet it doesn't have an option for LUKS when installing.
Anything I'm missing?
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1838 [16:54:46] <knob> Ok... 1st, LUKS not showing up. Yet 2nd,
and more important the Live cd was able to detect the ethernet card.
Yet I just rebooted the laptop, and the ethernet card is nowhere to
be seen.
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1840 [16:55:06] <knob> Do I have to do anything so the Live CD
installer "installs" those drivers for the ethernet card?
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1848 [16:59:54] <jhutchins_wk> knob: For luks you probably need
the non-live installer. As far as ethernet, it might not have
installed firmware or something. What chipset? lspci -nn will show
the pciid which we can check in the database.
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1851 [17:00:50] <greycat> for machines that intend to use wifi, I
would generally want to start with the netinst-plus-nonfree-firmware
image
1852 [17:00:54] <knob> jhutchins_wk, thanks! I'm
re-installing not via the Live. Using same boot usb (the "Live
usb"), yet instead of going boot->LIVE xfce->install.
I'm doing boot->install
1853 [17:00:59] <greycat> !firmware image
1854 [17:00:59] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available
from
replaced-url
1855 [17:01:37] <knob> At the moment, the text installer asked me
for the firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-5_all.deb file.
1856 [17:02:17] <greycat> judd v firmware-iwlwifi
1857 [17:02:18] <judd> Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 --
jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1;
stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free:
20190114-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20190114-2;
buster-backports/non-free: 20190717-2~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free:
20190717-2; sid/non-free: 20190717-2
1858 [17:02:28] <greycat> seems like you're installing
stretch (Debian 9)
1859 [17:02:28] <knob> Oddly enough, this text installer accepted
the above file (iwlfifi...), yet was unable to
"autoconfigure" the DHCP on my ethernet. Something the
"Live" image was able to do 10 minutes ago (same ethernet
cable).
1860 [17:02:38] <knob> greycat, really?! Jesus... lemme re-check.
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1862 [17:03:05] <greycat> or, for whatever reason, it's
asking for the stretch version of the firmware
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1864 [17:03:32] <knob> This is the filename I just dropped into a
USB (30 minutes ago): debian-live-10.3.0-amd64-xfce
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1867 [17:04:03] <knob> Oh greycat, sorry, it asked for either
iwlwifi 5 or 6. I downloaded 5. Let me check the exact message...
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1871 [17:08:37] <knob> Ok, the installer tells me: Some of your
hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate. ...... Then it
asks for iflwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode and a line below it also lists
iwlwifi-6000g2b-5.ucode
1872 [17:08:55] <greycat> hence, starting with the non-free
netinst images...
1873 [17:09:08] <knob> I dropped the g2b-5 version into a usb
drive.
1874 [17:09:09] <knob> Ahh
1875 [17:09:18] <knob> Ok. Let me give it another go. Going to
download that one now.
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1877 [17:10:14] <knob> I can download from this link, or via
torrent. Would you happen to know how to arrive at the non-free
firmware download page for torrent?
1878 [17:10:31] <knob> I always try to download via torrents...
for speed, and later seeding.
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1880 [17:13:04] <knob> I'm at this link, yet I can't
figure out the nomenclature:
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1881 [17:13:36] <knob> "bt" stands for?? I believe jigdo
is a "ftp hopper" setup?
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1884 [17:16:16] <jelly> knob: bittorrent. Download an installer
image from iso-cd or iso-dvd.
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1886 [17:17:00] <knob> bt bittorrent. *facepalm*.. Thanks jelly.
I'm re-downloading now
1887 [17:17:02] <jelly> jigdo is
1888 [17:17:06] <jelly> !jigdo
1889 [17:17:06] <dpkg> Jigsaw Download (jigdo) is a method for
downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian
CD images with jigdo" at
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1895 [17:22:13] <knob> I'm downloading the
firmware-10.3.0-amd64-DVD. I'll install once it done and see
what's up.
1896 [17:22:20] <knob> Will update shortly.
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1937 [17:53:15] <knob> Alright! Finished downloading. Dropping the
firmware DVD image into a USB now and then re-attempting install.
1938 [17:53:18] <kapil> what is the goal of debian?
1939 [17:53:30] <greycat> !why debian
1940 [17:53:31] <dpkg> Debian strives to maintain your freedom
whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of
making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See
also
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1941 [17:53:40] <han-solo> to conquer the world!
1942 [17:54:01] <knob> I absolutely love Debian. Favorite distro
hands down.
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1946 [17:55:48] <veikko> I had to compile my own kernel because
debian stable had a kernel driver bug :'(
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1948 [17:56:26] <JyZyXEL> stable works fine with vanilla kernel
builds
1949 [17:56:36] <veikko> yeah, it's good now
1950 [17:56:49] <veikko> but compiling the kernel involves some
work
1951 [17:56:55] <veikko> tuning the config
1952 [17:57:03] <greycat> stable works "fine" on common
hardware that's not too new
1953 [17:57:05] <veikko> easier just to apt install
1954 [17:57:29] <JyZyXEL> you can use olddefconfig and schedule
the compiling automatically
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1970 [18:02:39] <look09> hi viper
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1972 [18:03:10] <look09> no one home?
1973 [18:03:14] <ViperXL75> hi
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1975 [18:03:15] <ViperXL75> hehehe
1976 [18:03:24] <look09> lol
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1978 [18:03:26] <ViperXL75> i'm looking for something rather
simple
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1980 [18:03:37] <ViperXL75> How to change the MAC address of my
Debian9 stretch machine
1981 [18:03:47] <look09> Hmmm
1982 [18:03:55] <ViperXL75> tried through the GUI... but the MAC
didn't get changed
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1984 [18:04:14] <ViperXL75> even when i launched the configuration
centre via root in terminal
1985 [18:04:27] <look09> and I'm trying to find out how to
turn auto updates back on my phone
1986 [18:04:41] <ViperXL75> in a debian channel ?!? 0_o
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1989 [18:05:04] <look09> Still trying to find some better channels
1990 [18:05:14] <ViperXL75> what kinda phone u have?
1991 [18:05:15] <ViperXL75> Android?
1992 [18:05:19] <look09> Yes
1993 [18:05:35] <ViperXL75> and how come u think there's no
Update enabled on it?
1994 [18:05:47] <look09> My radio is glitching out as well
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1996 [18:06:21] <ViperXL75> Open Google Play Store -> Touch the
hamburger icon in the top-left, swipe up and choose Settings. ->
Under General, tap Auto-update apps. -> Choose the first option:
Do not auto-update apps.
1997 [18:06:39] <ViperXL75> and join the channel #android
1998 [18:06:40] <ViperXL75> :)
1999 [18:06:42] <look09> Because it wanted to download 32 updates
yesterday, then I had to leave the hotspot I was on
2000 [18:06:58] <look09> I have Android 9.0
2001 [18:07:20] <towo`> android whatever version is not debian,
nor linux
2002 [18:07:25] <look09> Now the auto updates don't appear
2003 [18:07:27] <towo`> so absoliutely wrong channel
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2005 [18:07:46] <look09> What's a good channel?
2006 [18:07:52] <ViperXL75> uh oh... one woke up
2007 [18:07:54] <ViperXL75> #android
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2009 [18:07:55] <greycat> it is Linux, I think... but definitely
not Debian
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2011 [18:08:55] <look09> Hmm
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2013 [18:09:21] <ViperXL75> ok. Now that u all woke up.... How do
i change the Mac address of my Debian9-stretch machine? (Gui didnt
succeed)
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2015 [18:09:31] <greycat> you could start with: /msg alis list
*android*
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2022 [18:11:50] <knob> I'm still copying the iso image to the
USB drive. As an aside, I receive a Purism Librem5 phone. Still
needs lots of work, yet I am super happy that phone exists.
2023 [18:11:52] <knob> It's a start.
2024 [18:12:10] <cybercrypto> :-) change mac address? hehehe...
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2027 [18:12:44] <ViperXL75> yeah man. The hardware address of my
network card.
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2030 [18:13:05] <ViperXL75> and no.... it's not MacDonalds.
2031 [18:13:06] <towo`> ViperXL75, google => debian spoof mac
address
2032 [18:13:06] <ViperXL75> :P
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2034 [18:14:23] <ViperXL75> hmm.... ok
2035 [18:14:31] <cybercrypto> ViperXL75: thank God it is not mc
donalds...
2036 [18:15:18] <mag_the_rose> Hi, if I try to apt-get upgrade, I
get problems with generating initramfs... Can I paste the generated
errors to pastebin?
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2038 [18:16:08] <greycat> mag_the_rose: paste.debian.net is
preferred
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2044 [18:17:55] <mag_the_rose> Thx, so here it is:
replaced-url
2045 [18:18:49] <greycat> "update-initramfs: Generating
/boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-8-amd64" and a bunch of lines of the
form "modinfo: ERROR: could not get modinfo from
'hid_keytouch': Exec format error"
2046 [18:18:58] <greycat> What kind of system is this?
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2051 [18:20:03] <mag_the_rose> It's debian stretch, I'm
trying upgrading to buster...
2052 [18:20:07] <greycat> ,file
lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko
2053 [18:20:12] <judd> No packages in buster/amd64 were found with
that file.
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2055 [18:20:14] <greycat> No, I mean what kind of hardware?
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2057 [18:20:24] <greycat> ,file hid-samsung.ko
2058 [18:20:27] <knob> Seems like the "linux inside
Samsung" thing
2059 [18:20:28] <judd> Search for hid-samsung.ko in buster/amd64:
linux-image-4.19.0-8-rt-amd64-unsigned:
lib/modules/4.19.0-8-rt-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko;
linux-image-4.19.0-8-rt-amd64:
lib/modules/4.19.0-8-rt-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko;
linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64:
lib/modules/4.19.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko;
linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64-unsigned:
2060 [18:20:29] <judd>
lib/modules/4.19.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko;
linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64-dbg:
usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/4.19.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko;
linux-image-4.19.0-8-rt-amd64-dbg:
usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/4.19.0-8-rt-amd64/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-samsung.ko
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2062 [18:20:36] <greycat> hmm.
2063 [18:20:46] <mag_the_rose> It's a virtual machine under
kvm/qemu, hosting LAMP stack with nextcloud...
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2065 [18:22:25] <greycat> what does "dpkg
--print-architecture" say, and what does "file
/lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/3com/3c589_cs.ko"
say?
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2069 [18:25:18] <mag_the_rose> dpkg --print-architecture is amd64
2070 [18:25:18] <dpkg> mag_the_rose: what are you talking about?
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2072 [18:25:50] <mag_the_rose> The file command:
"/lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/3com/3c589_cs.ko:
data"
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2076 [18:26:39] <greycat> Seems like you've got corrupted
driver files.
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2078 [18:26:52] <greycat> they should say something like
"/lib/modules/4.19.0-8-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/3com/3c589_cs.ko:
ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
BuildID[sha1]=4add97edaea1e01d3beb16a9b571800e94026c2f, not
stripped"
2079 [18:27:38] <mag_the_rose> Hmm, if I get these files from the
corresponding package and copy it over manually?
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2118 [18:53:58] <knob> Ok, I'm using this image to install:
firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst And the installer still asks me for
the iwlwifi-6000g2b-5 (and g2b-6) files for the network drivers.
2119 [18:53:59] <knob> =\
2120 [18:54:02] <knob> I'm at a loss.
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2123 [18:58:25] <greycat> best strategy, then, is to install as
much as you can, boot it, connect to ethernet, and download whatever
else is needed to get wireless up
2124 [18:58:40] <greycat> or sneakernet if you can't get
ethernet working
2125 [18:59:35] <towo`> iwlwifi-6000g2b-5 is not packaged in
debian available
2126 [18:59:45] <greycat> !iwlwifi
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2128 [18:59:46] <dpkg> The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports
several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N,
Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me
about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi
package to provide. Supported devices and troubleshooting hints are
listed at
replaced-url
2129 [19:01:15] <knob> greycat, ok, I did an idiotic thing. I was
dropping the file iwlwifi for, as you said, a different distro. I
think it was jessie. So I just typed in "buster" in the
URL, and I'm using that file now.
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2131 [19:01:28] <knob> firmware-iwlwifi_20190114-2_all.deb
2132 [19:01:31] <look09> life signs?
2133 [19:01:32] <knob> Much more recent file.
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2146 [19:12:08] <knob> My ethernet card is an Qualcomm Atheros
AR8151.... and... I'm at the end of this string -->
replaced-url
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2150 [19:15:55] <knob> Ok, I'm able to use the file
firmware-iwlwifi_20190114-2_all.deb during installation, loaded from
USB removable media. Yet when the ethernet card is going to connect,
it throws an error "Your network is probably not using the DHCP
protocol."
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2152 [19:16:10] <knob> Yet I connected this same laptop today with
a Debian Live USB... and it was DHCP just fine.
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2164 [19:22:07] <mag_the_rose> It worked! Thankx :)
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2269 [20:01:30] <andre144k> i have an usb-stick, where i want
delete all partitions. so i say "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc
bs=10M count=10" - this should destroy all partition
informations. but i get error: cat open /dev/sdc: read only file
system
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2271 [20:02:16] <greycat> make sure it is NOT mounted
2272 [20:02:18] <andre144k> i have absolute no idea why stick is
read only?
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2274 [20:02:37] <andre144k> stick issnt mounted !
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2276 [20:03:10] <andre144k> i put inside laptop without
mount-command
2277 [20:04:04] <andre144k> "cat /proc/mtab | grep -c
sdc" will give 0
2278 [20:04:11] <andre144k> "cat /etc/mtab | grep -c
sdc" will give 0
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2280 [20:05:03] <lupulo> andre144k, connect the usb and from
terminal do dmesg
2281 [20:05:13] <lupulo> the device could change his name
2282 [20:05:24] <lupulo> sdc -> sdb -> sda
2283 [20:05:30] <lupulo> depends from udev or ...
2284 [20:06:19] <andre144k> abolute not - because i bootet from
live cd
2285 [20:06:33] <andre144k> and i put stick of - then /dev/sdc*
issnt there
2286 [20:06:52] <andre144k> then i put stick on - then /dev/sdc
and /dev/sdc1 is there
2287 [20:06:53] <greycat> then you are using the wrong device. use
dmesg to see the correct device.
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2291 [20:07:58] <lupulo> andre144k, or use fdisk -l
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2295 [20:08:48] <greycat> It's also unclear whether you
really meant '"cat /proc/mtab | grep -c sdc" will
give 0' (speculation), or 'I ran "cat /proc/mtab |
grep -c sdc" and it gave 0"
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2300 [20:09:21] <andre144k> greycat, dmesg shows /dev/sdc when i
stick usb on port. fdisk -l shows correct disk discription
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2303 [20:09:27] <andre144k> for /dev/sdc
2304 [20:10:16] <greycat> If you're using the correct device,
and if you *actually* checked that it's not mounted (some
desktop environments auto-mount things), then the remaining
hypothesis is that the stick is broken.
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2306 [20:10:31] <greycat> Some sticks go into "read only
mode" when they're starting to die.
2307 [20:10:32] <lupulo> andre144k, perhaps it was bullshit
quality
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2309 [20:10:44] <lupulo> nothing about iso 9001
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2311 [20:11:14] <andre144k> its an live-cd i started - grml
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2313 [20:11:44] <andre144k> only commandline
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2315 [20:12:01] <andre144k> there i try to delete this partitions
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2318 [20:12:53] <andre144k> hmm, ill try gparted - with x11 -
but...
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2321 [20:14:45] <lupulo> andre144k, but that is a iso not a
partition
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2324 [20:15:25] <andre144k> i have a grml linux iso - i booted
from
2325 [20:15:39] <andre144k> and i have a usbstick i want delete
all partitions
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2327 [20:15:51] <andre144k> iso ill boot via cdrom
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2329 [20:16:35] <andre144k> usbstick i put after booting from
cdrom into port
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2334 [20:16:45] <jelly> if you have a full grml it has X and
gparted on it
2335 [20:16:48] <greycat> If you're using the correct device,
and it's not mounted, and fdisk can't do it, and cfdisk
can't do it, and parted can't do it, and dd ... can't
do it, then the remaining hypothesis is that the stick is broken.
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2339 [20:17:03] <andre144k> jelly, yes ill try in some seconds
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2342 [20:18:40] <lupulo> andre144k, there is the possibility the
usb have becomen out of game
2343 [20:19:19] <andre144k> gparted> cant write on /dev/sdc
beause its opend readonly
2344 [20:19:30] <andre144k> its a new stick...
2345 [20:19:40] <lupulo> i have one pny is readonly forever
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2347 [20:19:54] <lupulo> with windows register too
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2349 [20:20:36] <lupulo> andre144k, testdisk could help you too
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2353 [20:22:43] <andre144k> thnx for help
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2358 [20:24:56] <lupulo> andre144k, which is the brand?
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2362 [20:26:58] <andre144k> kingston datatraveler 100
2363 [20:28:11] <andre144k>
replaced-url
2364 [20:28:40] <andre144k> steps 10/11 are working
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2367 [20:28:57] <andre144k> but in step 12 i see "readonly
flag = on" again
2368 [20:29:27] <andre144k> so it looks like dead
2369 [20:30:09] <andre144k> the usb-disk has an bootable linux
distro - its working well ... so its little bit crazy all.
2370 [20:33:20] <andre144k> testdisk dont work also - no write
access... please check root, permissions or jumpers :)
2371 [20:33:37] <andre144k> okay no more tests after one hour....
a new usbdisk
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2380 [20:41:06] <lupulo> andre144k,
replaced-url
2381 [20:42:05] <lupulo> triple pack Linux USB Triple Pack
(Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE) Freak Freak
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2387 [20:46:12] <sklv1> maybe have a look if there
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2389 [20:46:20] <sklv1> is anything about your sdc usb drive in
dmesg
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2399 [20:52:19] <Peyam> hi
2400 [20:52:29] <Peyam> how can I install xflux on buster?
2401 [20:52:32] <Peyam> is it gone?
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2481 [21:44:33] <Hatter> It seems squid as a transparent proxy is
not as useful anymore now that all sites are SSL , what do we do now
for a transparent proxy ?
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2486 [21:47:38] <sponix2ipfw>
replaced-url
2487 [21:48:04] <Hatter> @spnix2ipfw, thank you
2488 [21:48:13] <sponix2ipfw>
replaced-url
2489 [21:48:36] <sponix2ipfw> Not sure those are 100% what you are
in need of -- But they look semi-promising
2490 [21:49:01] <Hatter> I have looked at that idea before, but
that means a self signed cert which will show up as a broken padlock
in a browser
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2512 [22:00:59] <yes> i'm having bluetooth troubles. got some
headphones which purportedly do bluetooth 4.0. i'm on a 2017
laptop. bluetoothctl sees some other bluetooth devices but not this
one
2513 [22:01:03] <yes> this is on debian buster
2514 [22:01:47] <yes> i'm a total noob at bluetooth, not
really sure how to get lower level in order to figure out more
details about what might be wrong
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2529 [22:14:33] <lupulo> yes,
replaced-url
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2543 [22:21:43] <yes> lupulo: thanks, looking now
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2549 [22:25:28] <yes> lupulo: following that page, i get to the
part where i try to connect manually (because the gui tools are
failing me)
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2551 [22:26:10] <yes> and `root@corylus:/home/j# rfcomm connect
hci0 00:1B:66:AC:99:00` response with "Can't connect
RFCOMM socket: Permission denied"
2552 [22:26:17] <yes> surprising, since i issued that command as
root
2553 [22:26:27] <yes> but perhaps indicative of my root issue
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2571 [22:37:56] <lwp> yes, what is your root issue ? maybe this
one ?
2572 [22:38:00] <lwp> !buster su
2573 [22:38:01] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by
default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su
-l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at
all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put
"ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See
replaced-url
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2575 [22:38:31] <yes> lwp: not sure what my root issue is
2576 [22:38:51] <yes> my direct symptom is that i don't see
the bluetooth headphones listed in any bluetooth tools on this
laptop
2577 [22:39:00] <yes> i can connect to them with other devices,
like my phone
2578 [22:39:04] <lwp> yes, read dpkg message above; and if that
doesn't help, tell us more details about the "root
issue"
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2580 [22:39:10] <yes> i have read that
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2583 [22:39:58] <yes> lwp: perhaps i was misunderstood. "root
issue" could be parsed as "issue pertaining to being
root", or "issue which is the root cause of some, more
directly observable issue"
2584 [22:40:01] <yes> i intended the latter
2585 [22:40:26] <yes> `sudo su` still works, i think, just fine in
order to become root and run command as uid0
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2592 [22:41:33] <JordiGH> What's supposed to happen when I
select memtest86 from the grub menu? The menu just disappears, the
Debian GRUB splash image stays there, and nothing happens for about
a minute.
2593 [22:41:47] <JordiGH> Should I just wait longer and get
memtest results in a few hours?
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2600 [22:47:54] <JordiGH> I was expecting to get a pretty TUI with
memtest86+
2601 [22:48:11] <tarzeau> JordiGH: /me prefers memtester over
memtest86*
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2603 [22:48:23] <tarzeau> JordiGH: can also write a TUI for
memtester using iselect
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2605 [22:48:54] <yes> does anyone know of a bluetooth channel
where folks know the ins-and-outs of hci and bluez?
2606 [22:50:21] <JordiGH> Well, is it worrying that I seemingly
can't boot into memtest86+? Should I just wait longer?
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2608 [22:50:36] <lupulo> yes, blueman always works... do you have
tried?
2609 [22:50:50] <yes> lupulo: i have tried it, yes
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2611 [22:51:11] <yes> lupulo: the issue is that the device
i'm trying to pair with doesn't even show up when i scan
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2613 [22:51:43] <yes> lupulo: not sure how to debug the next
steps. i can pair the device (a pair of headphones) with other
computers, like my telephone
2614 [22:51:46] <lupulo> so antique question
2615 [22:51:49] <lupulo> for me
2616 [22:51:56] <lupulo> i don't remember
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2623 [22:58:49] <JordiGH> Hm, are there any Debian-specific docs
on memtest86+?
2624 [22:59:07] <tinga> Hey. For some reason, for about a week or
so now often my left mouse button behaves as if it were the right
one. Inconsistently. It happens in various X apps. Any idea? Touch
interface stuff? I'm on oldstable, security upgrade? Or did I
toggle some setting accidentally somehow?
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2627 [23:00:00] <JordiGH> tinga: I know several DEs have options
for flipping the mouse buttons around. Are you using a DE?
2628 [23:00:07] <JordiGH> Or... just FVWM or something?
2629 [23:00:07] <tinga> JordiGH, there's the doc dir as
usual, /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/, not sure what else
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2632 [23:00:25] <tinga> JordiGH, what's a DE?
2633 [23:00:46] <JordiGH> Desktop environment (gnome, plasma,
mate, cinnamon...)
2634 [23:00:55] <tinga> Xfce here
2635 [23:01:08] <JordiGH> Right, did you look at the xfce mouse
options?
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2637 [23:01:37] <tinga> There's the "Mouse and
Touchpad" settings tool, didn't find anything there.
2638 [23:02:10] <JordiGH> I have something about right-handed vs
left-handed in mate's mouse settings.
2639 [23:02:33] <Unit193> tinga: Do you have
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed?
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2641 [23:02:58] <tinga> The odd thing is it's not consistent.
Just every say 5th left click it does a right click (even at the
same time I think, it usually does both the left click action then
opens the context menu)
2642 [23:03:12] <tinga> Unit193, nope
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2646 [23:04:23] <tinga> Maybe my mouse is breaking down? But I
can't reproduce it: i.e. I can press as hard or odd onto left
button as I want and don't get the right click; but then
suddenly in some situations it happens almost all the time. I
suspect timing related or something.
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2660 [23:13:55] <knob> I just put this Debian10 image into a usb:
firmware-10.3.0-amd64-DVD-1 And during install, it is still asking
me for the network hardware files. It´s asking me for
iwlwifi-6000g2b-5 and g2b-6
2661 [23:13:57] <knob> =\
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2663 [23:14:37] <knob> Am I missing something basic? I thought the
"firmware-10.3.0-amd64..." would have all those files for
network hardware?
2664 [23:15:17] <tinga> knob, I ran into this in the past one one
computer then realized on another one that I got networking anyway
without additional drivers. I'm still unclear how this part of
the installer works.
2665 [23:15:35] <knob> tinga, thanks. I have something amiss
somewhere.
2666 [23:15:46] <Unit193> tinga: Well that's to say, Xfce
uses that package to configure mouse settings.
2667 [23:15:54] <knob> This is on a Dell ZPS 14z laptop (a little
bit old, but still good).
2668 [23:16:15] <tinga> (knob i.e. I think in *some* cases, even
though the installer asks for drivers, you can ignore it, *I
think*.)
2669 [23:16:27] <tinga> Unit193, ah, thanks, will try that then
2670 [23:17:00] <knob> tinga, tried earlier to ignore, then it
just didn't connect to the network. I then got it to work by
putting static IP address (via ethernet)..... yet I never saw the
laptop pop up un my router (neither IP nor MAC). And when the
installer went to hit the Debian mirrors, it failed.
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2672 [23:18:40] <tinga> knob, dunno then. I know I don't
understand that part of the installer is all I can say. Hopefully
someone else can help.
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2674 [23:19:20] <knob> tinga, all good. Thanks. Earlier a couple
of the regulars were throwing their help here. It's all good.
=)
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2676 [23:19:49] <knob> The odd thing is that if I load a Debian
LIVE CD... it connects to the network just fine (and I see the
laptop pop up on my router with IP and MAC).
2677 [23:20:39] <knob> I just realized that the installer, 50% of
the time detect the ethernet card, and 50% of the time it
doesn't. Yet all the time it detects the wireless network card.
2678 [23:20:46] <knob> Maybe hardware failure on the laptop?
2679 [23:22:41] <tinga> If in this situation I'd (1) try to
find someone who could help, (2) try to get a wifi dongle that is
supported, (3) if I felt like experimenting boot from the live CD
then partition the disk and debootstrap and grub setup etc. manually
(I'm sure there's tons of things that can go wrong this
route so it won't be painless)
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2685 [23:24:46] * tinga rebooting to test xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
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2688 [23:25:24] <Leonid> hallo
2689 [23:25:32] <Leonid> some one here need some help
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2699 [23:30:12] <jhutchins> knob: There's a firmware-nonfree
package as well (in non-free).
2700 [23:30:34] <knob> jhutchins, checking that now...
2701 [23:31:53] <Rozha> jhutchins hallo can you help
2702 [23:31:57] <Rozha> little bit )
2703 [23:32:01] <knob> jhutchins, this guy? -->
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2706 [23:32:58] <mtn> Rozha: The best way to get help is to ask
your real question. Give as much detail as you can in a sentence or
two.
2707 [23:33:03] <Rozha> jhutchins i install debian how to install
manual ip adress and ets :)
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2709 [23:33:14] <karlpinc> !interfaces
2710 [23:33:14] <dpkg> Your network configuration is in the file
/etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for
documentation, "zless
/usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for
example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a
and ifdown -a respectively.
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2711 [23:33:15] <Rozha> or only dhcp and then iptable
2712 [23:34:26] <karlpinc> Rozha: You use /etc/network/interfaces
unless you want to use networkmanager. I find networkmanager
annoying, but your choice.
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2714 [23:34:43] <Rozha> dpkg i just install system not installed
threw install can i put it manual
2715 [23:34:44] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable
request, Rozha
2716 [23:35:10] <karlpinc> Rozha: dpkg is a bot.
2717 [23:35:17] <Rozha> :)
2718 [23:35:21] <Rozha> srry :)
2719 [23:35:26] <dym> It still has feelings!
2720 [23:35:32] <Wh0IsS> Hello ppl, i have problem with my sdcard
on debian10. writen on it raspbery pi iso image. i need to access
files but not mounting.
2721 [23:35:40] <karlpinc> Rozha: So your system is installed?
(did you use the unoffical installer with non-free firmware
included?)
2722 [23:35:49] <Rozha> no i just install it
2723 [23:35:53] <Rozha> threw progress
2724 [23:36:04] <Wh0IsS> i installed nonfree firmware too.
2725 [23:36:06] <Wh0IsS> sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
2726 [23:36:07] <Wh0IsS> mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option,
bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk0p1, missing codepage or helper
program, or other error.
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2728 [23:36:32] <greatgatsby> !netplan
2729 [23:36:43] <greatgatsby> <shrug>
2730 [23:36:46] <karlpinc> Rozha: The normal installation process
sets up your network.
2731 [23:36:48] <Rozha> karlpinc i wan to to put ip manul threw
installing can i do it
2732 [23:36:58] <Rozha> it take dhcp
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2735 [23:37:19] <Rozha> can i put manual ip ? or only when isnall
iptabel ?
2736 [23:37:34] <karlpinc> Rozha: You can tell the installer to
either use dhcp or to setup your system with a manually specified ip
(netmask, dhcp server, etc.)
2737 [23:37:53] <karlpinc> Rozha: iptables is something different.
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2740 [23:38:38] <tinga> Unit193, JordiGH : I can confirm that with
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics I've got the left vs right handed
setting. Was on right handed as expected. Not sure what to do, will
continue to observe.
2741 [23:38:50] <tinga> Maybe it's a broken mouse after all.
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