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151 [01:12:28] <b0t> Hello, how to restore complety /etc/mail/, i
need delete this folder and reinstall sendmail?
152 [01:12:42] <awal1> I wonder if if lxde/task-dekstop-lxde will
be /should be removed from debian since lxqt is now in sid/stretch
and soon a task-desktop-lxqt...
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155 [01:13:28] <awal1> lxqt is nicer and well worked/designed
then lxde :P
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159 [01:15:30] <jmcnaught> b0t: are you trying to get back to the
default/original conf files that were installed by the packages?
"/msg dpkg confnew" has some info about that
160 [01:15:45] <jmcnaught> b0t: you might also want to check out
etckeeper
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162 [01:16:29] <b0t> "/msg dpkg confnew
163 [01:16:37] <b0t> Thanks
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172 [01:20:53] <b0t> I try apt-get --reinstall install mail
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174 [01:21:16] <b0t> I try apt-get --reinstall install sendmail,
but the sendmail.mc no restore to original
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176 [01:21:38] <abrotman> did you read what the bot told you?
177 [01:21:43] <b0t> Still the same
178 [01:21:47] <RippyDippy> Ive located my
intel_brightness/brightness, what generally the best way to set it
up for i3 keybinds
179 [01:22:02] <abrotman> b0t: read what the bot told you
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182 [01:22:33] <awal1> b0t, I dont really now if --reinstall X
package helps, not only in your case but in general
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184 [01:22:47] <abrotman> the bot should have given explicit
instructions that were not followed
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188 [01:24:21] <b0t> Ok, i trying aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall sendmail , but
not change nothing
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196 [01:25:36] <awal1> when X package is removed and purged
reinstalling it have sense but reinstalling an existent/configured
one (?); maybe I'm wrong :)
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199 [01:26:06] <abrotman> b0t: do you even know which package
owns that file?
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202 [01:27:07] <b0t> Sendmail.mc is a sendmail package file
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205 [01:27:46] <b0t> I triying apt-get --purge remove sendmail
and aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew"
reinstall sendmail, but the file still the same
206 [01:27:55] <b0t> I cant send emails
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209 [01:29:04] <abrotman> judd: file sendmail.mc
210 [01:29:09] <judd> Search for sendmail.mc in jessie/amd64:
ifgate: usr/share/doc/ifgate/examples/sendmail.mc; sendmail-cf:
usr/share/sendmail/cf/debian/sendmail.mc
211 [01:29:14] <abrotman> yeah, you'd be wrong
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216 [01:31:26] <b0t> Ok i replace the file, thanks
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265 [01:51:57] <npo> Hey, i'm trying to build lemonbar but
cc is telling me that xcb/xinerama.h doesn't exist (it
doesn't). but libxcb-xinerama0, libxinerama-dev, libxcb-dev,
etc, all the related packages that this header file would be in are
all installed. apt keeps telling me that they're at the latest
version, so this header must be in a different place. does anyone
know what i need to install to get the header so i can install
266 [01:52:03] <npo> this?
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269 [01:52:52] <bazhang> ,v lemonbar
270 [01:52:53] <judd> No package named 'lemonbar' was
found in amd64.
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272 [01:53:08] <npo> you have to build it from the repo
unfortunately
273 [01:53:26] <bazhang> what is lemonbar exactly
274 [01:53:40] <npo> it's a very lightweight/slick status
bar for window managers
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276 [01:55:38] <cafuego> npo: apt-file will let you search for
specific files
277 [01:55:58] <cafuego> npo: Not sure if auto-apt is still a
thing, but that wraps apt-file to install whatever is needed during
the build process.
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284 [01:57:43] <npo> cafuego: awesome, thanks a lot! apt-file
found the package and it's installing now
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342 [02:27:32] <andril> hello
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347 [02:30:39] <bkpark> hi
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362 [02:36:34] <andril> hey bkpark :)
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381 [02:44:39] <warsoul> hello
382 [02:44:47] <warsoul> whats the command to update in debian?
383 [02:44:54] <abrotman> update what?
384 [02:45:08] <abrotman> warsoul: ?
385 [02:45:16] <warsoul> has been a long time i dont use it
386 [02:45:22] <warsoul> i want to update
387 [02:45:37] <abrotman> update what? the packges? the kernel?
the PCI database? Flash? Your BIOS?
388 [02:45:47] <abrotman> to the next version?
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391 [02:45:52] <warsoul> i want to update everything
392 [02:46:21] <markybob> warsoul: you update the list of
packages with sudo apt-get update. you then upgrade the packages
with sudo apt-get upgrade. unless you want to go to a new release.
then you read the docs and edit sources.list
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395 [02:46:58] <warsoul> is there a new release?
396 [02:47:12] <markybob> warsoul: i don't know what
you're using so i can't answer that
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398 [02:47:41] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, check your release with
lsb_release -a
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401 [02:48:20] <warsoul> is not in the sudoers file. This
incident will be reported.
402 [02:48:34] <abrotman> you don't need sudo
403 [02:48:36] <markybob> warsoul: do you have the root password?
404 [02:48:44] <abrotman> you can run lsb_release -a as a user
405 [02:48:48] <warsoul> markybob how can i check what i have
406 [02:48:54] <abrotman> you can run lsb_release -a as a user
407 [02:48:55] <warsoul> yes i have the root passwd
408 [02:49:14] <abrotman> you can run lsb_release -a as a user
409 [02:49:28] <warsoul> how?
410 [02:49:38] <abrotman> in a terminal, like any other command
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412 [02:49:46] <abrotman> how were you going to use it with sudo?
413 [02:49:52] <warsoul> whats the command
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415 [02:50:05] <TomTomTosch> lsb_release -a
416 [02:50:17] * abrotman slides a desk aronud the channel
417 [02:50:35] <warsoul> Distributor ID: Debian
418 [02:50:36] <warsoul> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.1
(jessie)
419 [02:50:36] <warsoul> Release: 8.1
420 [02:50:36] <warsoul> Codename: jessie
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423 [02:51:03] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, the release would have been
enough :P
424 [02:51:21] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, you need to update and
upgrade like markybob said.
425 [02:51:23] <markybob> warsoul: so do what i said. apt-get
update && apt-get upgrade as root (since you don't have
sudo)
426 [02:51:56] <warsoul> ok
427 [02:51:57] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, your release will be 8.4
afterwards.
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429 [02:52:11] <warsoul> how do i log in as root
430 [02:52:20] <TomTomTosch> su
431 [02:53:17] <warsoul> thanks guys
432 [02:53:48] <abrotman> he'll likely need a dist-upgrade
in there also, some will probably be held back
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434 [02:55:27] <markybob> maybe. one step at a time. i'm
glad we got su out of the way.
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441 [03:01:28] <warsoul> should i do dist-upgrade?
442 [03:01:46] <markybob> warsoul: did upgrade leave packages
behind?
443 [03:02:00] <warsoul> yes
444 [03:02:14] <markybob> warsoul: go to paste.debian.net and
paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please
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452 [03:07:52] <warsoul> /etc/apt/sources.list: Not a directory
453 [03:08:08] <markybob> warsoul: it's not. it's a
file
454 [03:08:20] <warsoul> ok
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459 [03:10:29] <warsoul> markybob
replaced-url
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461 [03:10:54] <markybob> warsoul: yes that looks fine. do a
dist-upgrade
462 [03:11:00] <warsoul> ok
463 [03:11:02] <warsoul> thanks
464 [03:11:14] <dvs> markybob, delete line 7?
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466 [03:11:45] <markybob> dvs: i would but it doesn't really
matter and i was feeling lazy
467 [03:11:56] <dvs> heh
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472 [03:14:26] <warsoul> dist-upgrade
473 [03:14:28] <warsoul> bash: dist-upgrade: command not found
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475 [03:14:50] <markybob> warsoul: no. it's apt-get
dist-upgrade
476 [03:15:19] <warsoul> done
477 [03:15:47] <warsoul> thanks
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485 [03:19:19] <awal1> !laugh at warsoul
486 [03:19:19] <dpkg> HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! warsoul just cracks me up!
487 [03:19:56] <TomTomTosch> not everyone is an admin.
488 [03:20:12] <awal1> thats true
489 [03:20:44] <awal1> I just like dpkg answers :)
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491 [03:21:32] <markybob> yeah being a bully is hilarious
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493 [03:22:50] <warsoul> !laugh at awall
494 [03:22:50] <dpkg> HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! awall just cracks me up!
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498 [03:25:53] <awal1> warsoul, you can play with dpkg, or ask
him about debian system stuff. just run /msg dpkg whatyouwant
499 [03:26:14] <warsoul> thank you awal1
500 [03:26:59] <Revian1> Hmm.. Window Maker is quite nice.
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503 [03:28:19] <henjl> ahh it's a wonderful day
504 [03:28:48] <awal1> Revian1, it would be nicer if it have
panel autohide feature. I misss that
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506 [03:29:22] <Revian1> awal1: Yes, that would be a nice feature
507 [03:29:58] <Revian1> I was running Mint, and today I found a
live cd called WMlive-Debian.
508 [03:30:17] <awal1> no idea
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510 [03:30:31] <Revian1> The debian devs deserve a medal, this
thing is rock-solid
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514 [03:31:00] <awal1> is it an official debian live image?
Revian1
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516 [03:31:07] <Revian1> awal1: It's basically Debian Jessie
with Window Maker as the default WM
517 [03:31:16] <Revian1> I doubt it's official
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519 [03:31:35] <awal1> not official for sure...
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521 [03:32:41] <awal1>
replaced-url
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524 [03:34:17] <abrotman> that's not Debian
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526 [03:34:45] <Revian1> That's the one, it's based on
Debian Jessie
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628 [04:48:28] <duser> recently i do apt-get update/ upgrade
pkgs. but my gnome terminal cursor no long blinks, that increases
difficulty in finding the current pos in terminal. any way to enable
cursor blink again?
629 [04:48:44] <duser> the command to launch terminal is
`gnome-terminal` only.
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635 [04:50:40] <liubingxu> hello
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644 [04:57:21] <bkpark> duser: this post is describing something
similar to what you are seeing.
replaced-url
645 [04:57:39] <bkpark> does "setterm -cursor on" work
to turn the cursor on?
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664 [05:08:02] <duser> bkpark: thanks. That works!
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717 [05:35:49] <b0t> Hello, i cant apt-get --purge remove
sendmail-base
718 [05:36:18] <b0t> Im receive a error -> dpkg: error
processing sendmail-base (--purge):
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723 [05:37:57] <jmcnaught> b0t: can you put the command and
complete output on
replaced-url
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725 [05:38:54] <b0t> ->
replaced-url
726 [05:39:06] <b0t> Check
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729 [05:41:51] <jmcnaught> b0t: in the future please use the
debian paste site linked to :) are there any new files in that
/usr/share/bug/sendmail-cf directory? it looks like it's also
complaining that the users it would delete are already gone, did you
remove them yourself earlier?
730 [05:42:00] <rommel092079> good day. I have a domain name. How
can I create a subdomain like mail.yahoo.com ?
731 [05:42:02] <b0t> Ok
732 [05:42:30] <nevyn> rommel092079: is the domain name you have
yahoo.com? if not you can't
733 [05:42:45] <rommel092079> no. just an example
734 [05:43:04] <jmcnaught> rommel092079: if you host your own
DNS, you add the subdomain in a zone file, at least with bind9. If
you have some company hosting your DNS, you do it on their control
panel
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736 [05:43:05] <rommel092079> like i have rsebrokerage.com
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738 [05:43:12] <b0t> I dont know jmcnaught, i cant use rm -R with
the directory?
739 [05:43:29] <rommel092079> i see.
740 [05:44:05] <jmcnaught> b0t: you don't want to see
what's in there first?
741 [05:44:52] <jmcnaught> b0t: is the package still listed when
you run "aptitude search ~c" ?
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743 [05:45:28] <b0t> Yes -> cp sendmail-base
744 [05:45:32] <jmcnaught> b0t: did you manually delete the smmta
and smmsp users?
745 [05:45:59] <b0t> No, i dont
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749 [05:48:21] <jmcnaught> b0t: i'm not very familiar with
sendmail-base, but there will be a postrm script at
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-base.postrm, this is the script that
your system is trying to run to purge the package. You can read it
to see what it's trying to do.
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756 [05:52:32] <b0t> I need delete the file manually?
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762 [05:55:22] <jmcnaught> b0t: you might end up needing to do
that. curiously apt-file is telling me that the directory
/usr/share/bug/sendmail-cf is owned by the sendmail-cf package, not
sendmail-base.
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767 [05:55:50] <jmcnaught> b0t: what does "apt-policy
sendmail-cf sendmail-base" say?
replaced-url
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769 [05:56:46] <b0t> nice, im remove sendmail-cf and after remove
sendmail-base and work
770 [05:56:48] <b0t> Thanks
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772 [05:57:22] <b0t> Apt-policy: command not found
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774 [05:57:59] <markybob> b0t: it's apt-cache policy
775 [05:58:23] <jmcnaught> heh sorry
776 [05:58:53] <markybob> jmcnaught: we all need beer time ;)
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780 [05:59:47] <b0t>
replaced-url
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782 [05:59:53] <b0t> ->
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788 [06:01:24] <b0t> How to change the default email on my
system?
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790 [06:01:57] <b0t> I dont know to use SSMTP or sendmail
791 [06:02:09] <jmcnaught> b0t: thanks. i see now you're on
wheezy which is why your postrm script is different than the one i
was looking at.
792 [06:02:35] <b0t> Is a bug
793 [06:02:54] <jmcnaught> b0t: you could try reinstalling the
package, and then purging it again. this should make it so
everything that the postrm script wants to remove during the purge
is there to delete.
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795 [06:03:36] <b0t> ? sendmail-base?
796 [06:03:39] <jmcnaught> b0t: otherwise you could read the
script, make sure all the stuff it removes is actually gone, and
then add "exit 0" to the top of it. this is a dirty hack,
but it will let the purge complete.
797 [06:03:44] <b0t> Or -cf
798 [06:04:04] <jmcnaught> b0t: according to your earlier paste
it's sendmail-base that you have trouble purging
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800 [06:04:19] <b0t> Ok
801 [06:04:20] <jmcnaught> b0t: did you look at
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-base.postrm ?
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803 [06:04:44] <b0t> No such file....
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806 [06:06:28] <jmcnaught> b0t: any similarly named files? ls
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail*
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808 [06:06:50] <b0t> Ls: cannot access
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail*: No such file or directory
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810 [06:07:17] <b0t> I think to sendmail if remove all
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812 [06:08:32] <jmcnaught> b0t: you don't have a
/var/lib/dpkg/info directory on your system?
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816 [06:09:06] <b0t> Ah yes, one moment
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818 [06:09:44] <b0t> Yes but not appear sendmail
819 [06:09:47] <jmcnaught> b0t: okay, but there are no files
starting with "sendmail" in there? does "aptitude
search ~c" still list sendmail?
820 [06:10:17] <b0t> Sed and sensible, sendmail not
821 [06:10:17] <b0t> No
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823 [06:10:29] <b0t> Nope
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825 [06:10:59] <b0t> Im delete with this answer
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826 [06:11:12] <judd> Bug
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827 [06:11:15] <jmcnaught> b0t: i guess you did something then.
if the aptitude search doesn't list sendmail anymore it's
gone
828 [06:11:20] <b0t> "It should work if you remove (no need
to purge) sendmail-cf first."
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830 [06:11:56] <b0t> Yes, its gone
831 [06:12:04] <b0t> Thanks
832 [06:12:17] <jmcnaught> b0t: thanks for sharing the steps you
were doing as i helped you troubleshoot
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835 [06:12:41] <b0t> U a welc
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837 [06:13:40] <b0t> Ok, now i need use my hostgator email in my
vps
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839 [06:14:08] <b0t> Im triying to install sendmail again
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842 [06:15:00] <jmcnaught> b0t: if you only need your VPS to send
mails not receive them, and you have a hostgator mail server you can
relay mail through, you should consider a simpler alternative to
sendmail like ssmtp, msmtp-mta or another "null client"
843 [06:15:07] <b0t> What is best postmail or postfix?
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845 [06:16:04] <b0t> Ok i try ssmtp
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857 [06:30:17] <b0t> Nice, work fine on ssmtp, thanks jmcnaught
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861 [06:32:42] <mms_> if I have installed postfix for mail relay
and for lockfile if i install procmail will it be issue /
862 [06:32:52] <simonlnu> no
863 [06:33:00] <mms_> I mean we have now two mail apps
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865 [06:33:21] <mms_> as such postfix service I run on boot
866 [06:33:28] <simonlnu> one is a MTA, the other is a MUA or MDA
867 [06:33:30] <mms_> for procmail is there going to be similar
service ?
868 [06:33:34] <simonlnu> !mta
869 [06:33:34] <dpkg> A Message/Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is a
program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often
using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/sbin/sendmail
and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all
MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>,
<nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which
mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>.
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870 [06:33:44] <simonlnu> !mua
871 [06:33:44] <dpkg> methinks mua is a Mail User Agent, in other
words <mailx>, <mutt>, <balsa>, <alpine>,
<elm>, <icedove> (thunderbird), <kmail>,
<evolution>, or any other mail client program.
872 [06:33:54] <simonlnu> mda
873 [06:34:03] <simonlnu> mail delivery agent
874 [06:34:11] <simonlnu> it gets handed mail from the mta
875 [06:34:38] <mms_> ok so procmail gives you mailx command and
postfix does the actual communication ?
876 [06:34:58] <simonlnu> no. postfix -> procmail -> mailx
877 [06:35:12] <simonlnu> mailx -> postfix (to send)
878 [06:35:22] <mms_> correct thats what I meant
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880 [06:35:46] <mms_> mailx is from procmail package basically
mail client we use on command line
881 [06:36:06] <mms_> and postfix is from postfix package which
we run as service daemon process
882 [06:36:14] <mms_> simonlnu: ya ?
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884 [06:36:23] <mms_> so I will then go ahead and install it
without fear
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887 [06:36:30] <simonlnu> sec
888 [06:36:48] <mms_> simonlnu: but I already have mailx command
I guess on system
889 [06:37:23] <mms_> simonlnu: then what does procmail give ? I
mean which mail command line client ?
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891 [06:37:46] <mms_> looks like it gives procmail command ?
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894 [06:37:54] <mms_> which is similar to mailx ?
895 [06:38:30] <mms_> simonlnu: ya ?
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897 [06:39:41] <mms_> actually I came to this package in search
of lockfile
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899 [06:39:54] <mms_> I want to serialize writing to a file from
shell script
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903 [06:40:21] <jmcnaught> mms_: mailx is not provided by
procmail. "aptitude search ~Pmailx" will list the packages
that provide mailx (which is a virtual package)
904 [06:40:34] <mms_> jmcnaught: hi. got that.
905 [06:40:50] <Yehai> this channel logged?
906 [06:41:24] <mms_> so to serialize writing to file from shell
script I am exploring and came across lockfile / procmail package.
907 [06:41:34] <mms_> is there simpler option than it ?
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909 [06:42:14] <Yehai> huh?
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911 [06:42:22] <mms_> I see fcntl
912 [06:42:27] <jmcnaught> mms_: i don't see where email is
part of this problem
913 [06:42:34] <jmcnaught> Yehai: yes, see the topic
914 [06:43:03] <Yehai> yes
915 [06:43:10] <mms_> jmcnaught: I am not doing email here but
since I thought procmail is for mailing and i already having postfix
and mailx I was suspecting it will interfere
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917 [06:43:56] <mms_> jmcnaught: so now to actual query is i am
exploring serialize writes to file from shell script
918 [06:44:11] <jmcnaught> mms_: i doubt you need procmail in
order to write to a file from a script, but i don't know what
you mean by serialize
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922 [06:44:43] <jmcnaught> mms_: do you mean only one process
gets to write to the file at a time?
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925 [06:44:47] <mms_> jmcnaught: multiple process concurrent
writes to file I want to synchronize/serialize/lock etc
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927 [06:44:51] <mms_> jmcnaught: yes
928 [06:45:06] <k_sze[work]> Is it possible to configure, in a
script, the MTU of a network interface depending on what network
it's on? e.g. I have a device that I bring back and forth
between two networks. But the DHCP servers on those networks suck
and they can't push option 26 (the MTU option). I need my
device to use jumbo frames when it's on one network and no
jumbo frames when it's on the other network. Is that possible?
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931 [06:45:34] <Yehai> bazhang: ppl hate you, watch when you go
out
932 [06:45:59] <jmcnaught> mms_: oh, i got confused by your use
of the word serialize, not familiar with that use
933 [06:46:13] <mms_> there is another flock command flock -x
local-lock-file echo 'a b c'
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935 [06:46:33] <mms_> it can also grab exclusive lock before
doing that echo command
936 [06:47:32] <TomTomTosch> mms_ if you want to use semaphores
in bash you shoud look into lockfile.
937 [06:47:39] <Yehai> hahhh, Butt3rfly butt files?
938 [06:48:11] <jmcnaught> Yehai: this is a tech support channel.
Do you need help with Debian?
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943 [06:50:27] <simonlnu> mms_: no it's not in procmail
package
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945 [06:50:52] <simonlnu> mms_: it's more often used as a
transport in a mta or a scripting command
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947 [06:51:14] <simonlnu> mms_: procmail and mailx are 2 totally
different beasts
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956 [06:52:44] <mms_> simonlnu: I read lockfile is in procmail
package
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958 [06:53:08] <jmcnaught> lockfile is in the procmail package,
mailx is not
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960 [06:54:14] <jmcnaught> mms_: procmail is safe to install, it
shouldn't interfere with postfix unless you configure postfix
to use it.
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968 [06:59:47] <TomTomTosch> mms_ flock works too. check what
syntax you like better.
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978 [07:04:27] <rommel092079> good day guys. can somebody assist
me on setting up mx record on dot.tk
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980 [07:05:01] <svetlana> Hi. Please do not use this service, it
is a scam, they redirect domains to an ad fest out of the blue. I
was told freedns works in a more reliable way.
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986 [07:08:15] <rommel092079> anyone ?
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993 [07:10:01] <simonlnu> freedns is also legit...
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995 [07:10:35] <svetlana> I haven't seen them redirect
things randomly, although I think they might die and kill the whole
thing in a bit
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997 [07:11:09] <simonlnu> scams are never around for long
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999 [07:11:29] <simonlnu> by definition they're "fly by
night"
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1002 [07:12:26] <simonlnu> xserver-xorg-legacy interferes with
bbswtich. on another note.
1003 [07:12:32] <simonlnu> switch*
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recommends, and so to run optirun, i have to remove it (x-x-l)
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1034 [07:23:43] <MiningInc> can I get /turn on syntax highlighting
from within VIM. i.e. can I enable syntax highlighting ()for
python() from command mode?
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1042 [07:28:33] <grawity> :syn on
1043 [07:28:38] <grawity> :set ft=python
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1057 [07:34:56] <ryouma> my system froze. mouse would not move.
the display was static. i had to reboot. there is a string of ^@
characters (null characters maybe) in both syslog and messages where
i'm guessing the error occurred. a few lines before there is
this line, which seems maybe relevant? "Apr 4 21:52:27 mybox
kernel: [189404.724004] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP ".
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1059 [07:35:18] <ryouma> please tell me what i can do to provide
information useful to debug this
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1066 [07:37:36] <simonlnu> file a bug for the kernel, using
reportbug. copy/paste the entire oops msg to the report.
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1072 [07:39:33] <ryouma> simonlnu: so this is likely totally a
software bug? and the oops i should paste is "Apr 4 21:52:27
mybox kernel: [189404.724004] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP"? i'm
wondering if this box is creaking and groaning, or if it's just
the recent jessie upgrade.
1073 [07:40:05] <simonlnu> the oops is much bigger/longer than
that (usually)
1074 [07:40:20] <simonlnu> i'd check the hardware first
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1076 [07:40:42] <simonlnu> like several pages
1077 [07:41:02] <MiningInc> grawity thanks a ton.
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1079 [07:41:17] <ryouma> simonlnu: how does one check hardware?
smartctl seems ok
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1081 [07:41:54] <simonlnu> run some tests, check plugs/cables,
etc.
1082 [07:41:55] <ryouma> is the oops following or preceding the
line i sent?
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1085 [07:43:21] <simonlnu> after. you'll see a bunch of hex
numbers (lines of text of kernel mem addresses and kernel functions
and stuff). to the uninitiated eye it looks like gibberish
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1089 [07:44:23] <simonlnu> if you don't see anything like
that, it probably didn't have time to completely write the oops
msg to /dev/log (syslog)
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1091 [07:44:56] <ryouma> when will i know when this oops ends?
1092 [07:45:00] <ryouma> at the null characters?
1093 [07:45:12] <simonlnu> it's pretty darn obvious
1094 [07:45:22] <ryouma> i don't know when it started
rebooting
1095 [07:45:28] <simonlnu> those nulls tell me it's likely
not all of it got copied
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1097 [07:45:42] <simonlnu> the kernel timestamp tells you when it
rebooted
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1099 [07:45:57] <ryouma> perhaps this? "Apr 4 21:52:27 mybox
kernel: [189404.853553] ---[ end trace 5ade8334b14da837 ]---"
1100 [07:46:00] <simonlnu> look for the 000.XXXXXXX marks
1101 [07:46:07] <simonlnu> yes, that's it
1102 [07:46:16] <ryouma> the nuls are after that
1103 [07:46:37] <simonlnu> (i could be wrong about it not getting
all of it)
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1106 [07:46:53] <ryouma> i don't see anything that says
kernel timestamp
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1110 [07:47:12] <simonlnu> no, the timestamp looks like kernel:
[189404.853553]
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1113 [07:47:31] <simonlnu> that's time since boot
1114 [07:47:36] <ryouma> it mentions my radeon. i wonder if that
is related or just part of its inventory.
1115 [07:47:46] <simonlnu> (in seconds and microseconds)
1116 [07:48:00] <ryouma> oh ok so when it is 0 then it is
rebooting?
1117 [07:48:12] <simonlnu> it's starting a new boot phase
1118 [07:48:27] <simonlnu> when the kernel is first active
1119 [07:48:58] <ryouma> well, i'll report it i guess. maybe
somebody will know whether it's hardware or just the kernel.
1120 [07:49:01] <simonlnu> you'll see a bunch of PCI stuff,
ACPI, PNP, etc. -- and that's later.
1121 [07:49:27] <ryouma> it all looks like gibberish to me :)
1122 [07:49:41] * simonlnu is one of those odd people that likes looking
at that sort of thing...
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1124 [07:50:00] <ryouma> i just happened to have heard of an oops
long ago so i searched for it and it was there after searching for
error and warning
1125 [07:50:33] <scream> "He who fights with monsters should
be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long
into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."
1126 [07:50:47] <ryouma> what's that from?
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1128 [07:51:38] <scream> that's Nietzsche. It's about
reading kernel stack traces ;)
1129 [07:51:51] <simonlnu> haha
1130 [07:51:53] <ryouma> that philosopher was one mean coder i
hear
1131 [07:52:10] <simonlnu> OT alert:
1132 [07:52:54] <simonlnu> i don't like a lot of what he
said, he's a nihilist, but he did have some good ones once in a
while </OT>
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1245 [08:49:22] <alfatau> hello all. I've 2 copies of the
same data onto 2 different machines. data are incremental snapshots
based on hard-links. I need to check the consistence between the 2
copies through a network connection. I tried using "rsync
--checksum --dry-run" but the folder contains millions of
files, due to multple hard-links on the same files and so the time
1246 [08:49:23] <alfatau> needed to complete the check is
unacceptable. Do you know some better way to do this check?
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1256 [08:51:17] <themill> alfatau: you could just use some
invocation of find -type f -exec md5sum … at each end and
diff them; if that level of consistency is important (these are
backups?) then a backup tool that maintains and can test checksums
(like obnam) would be better
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1268 [08:56:55] <Arch> testing testing 1..2..3..
1269 [08:57:06] <Arch> is this thing on..
1270 [08:57:23] <Arch> this red team one.
1271 [08:57:37] <Arch> over do you copy:)
1272 [08:57:44] <Arch> out.
1273 [08:57:58] <colo-work> *crickets*
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1276 [08:58:28] <Arch> roger that.
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1278 [08:59:53] <henjl> [yo]
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1284 [09:01:13] <alfatau> themill: yes, they're backups. The
backup tool I'm using is rsync and afaik it's algorithm
should check consistence... However this is a task that I need to do
after having copied data from an old server.
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1290 [09:04:25] <themill> checking a backup is about making sure
that the files in the backup are *still* OK and is the job of the
backup tool; rsync is only the tool that was used to copy the files
initially. (A lack of any later validation of the backup is the main
weakness of backup tools like rsync/rsnapshot etc)
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1293 [09:05:21] <Arch> check check... still ok
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1502 [10:46:10] <pingfloyd> themill: there's a way to do
verify with rsync though
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1510 [10:48:23] <pingfloyd> themill: run it a second time adding
the options -cn (this works best if backing up from a snapshot of
course)
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1536 [11:04:32] <twied> hey folks, whom do i report a bug in the
installer to?
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1553 [11:16:11] <Iridos> twied, you can file installer bugs
against the debian-installer pseudopackage.
1554 [11:16:31] <twied> thanks
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1561 [11:18:18] <Iridos> pingfloyd, hm, that's a good idea
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1566 [11:19:07] <Arch>
replaced-url
1567 [11:19:26] <Iridos> pingfloyd, maybe... rsync already checks
for consistency after copying
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1571 [11:21:26] <Iridos> would be nice if it could save the
checksums somewhere as it's already making them (and maybe
verify against them again at a later time)
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1574 [11:24:54] <k_sze[work]> Is there a nice way check if e.g.
eth0 is currently in the 172.26.252.0/22 subnet?
1575 [11:25:41] <k_sze[work]> I mean in a script, using command
line tools.
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1579 [11:26:51] <pingfloyd> Iridos: I don't think it does any
kind of post-copy verfication
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1581 [11:26:56] <pingfloyd> Iridos: and that's the problem
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1583 [11:27:12] <pingfloyd> Iridos: so running a second time does
the equivalent
1584 [11:27:49] <pingfloyd> Iridos: of course this depends on
source files having not changed, but that is no different than with
any other means of backup verification
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1586 [11:27:58] <Iridos> manpage says differently:
1587 [11:28:02] <jno7463> k_sze[work]: ip route | grep -w eth0 |
grep -qF 172.26.252.0/22
1588 [11:28:08] <pingfloyd> Iridos: also a good argument (beyond
consistency issues) for using snapshots as a source in backup
1589 [11:28:13] <jno7463> k_sze[work]: then check exit code of
grep
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1591 [11:28:27] <pingfloyd> Iridos: the manpage is misleading
1592 [11:28:33] <Iridos> Note that rsync always verifies that each
transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side
by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is
transferred
1593 [11:28:56] <pingfloyd> Iridos: see this
replaced-url
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1595 [11:31:23] <babilen> k_sze[work]: You might want to look into
tools such as saltstack or ansible
1596 [11:32:07] <k_sze[work]> jno7463: but that only hold true if
there is a route to 172.26.252.0/22 via eth0. eth0's IP address
might not be in that range.
1597 [11:32:28] <k_sze[work]> maybe grep for 'proto
kernel' as well?
1598 [11:32:37] <k_sze[work]> or 'scope link'?
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1606 [11:35:29] <jno7463> k_sze[work]: you're right
1607 [11:35:40] <vp|2> hello everyone, I'm having an issue
reading Model-specific registers (msr module) on a Debian 7 (3.2
kernel) system, in short: I'm granting group read/write access
to /dev/cpu/*/msr, and cap_sys_rawio+ep capabilities to the program
but I'm still getting "open("/dev/cpu/0/msr",
O_RDWR) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted", any ideas?
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1610 [11:36:37] <jno7463> k_sze[work]: scope link looks good
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1624 [11:45:39] <Iridos> pingfloyd, well, "that is generated
as the file is transferred"... so, true, it probably
doesn't read the file a 2nd time, it just makes sure there are
no errors in the network transfer
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1635 [11:52:44] <aricz> Anyone here have experience with Intel
Edison and Ubilinux? Does bluetooth work out of the box?
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1651 [11:58:12] <bumbar_> i copied some files from remote server
(archived them with tar) and when i try to open them on my local
machine, i get permission denied. i've tried chown-ing them,
and although it says i'm the owner, i can't open them
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1660 [12:01:35] <rommel092079> good pm. upon install of debian, i
got message missing rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw Where will I get that
missing file ?
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1677 [12:06:30] <themill> ,file rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw
1678 [12:06:34] <judd> Search for rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw in
jessie/amd64: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw
1679 [12:06:35] <themill> rommel092079: ^^
1680 [12:07:01] <rommel092079> tnx. will check it out
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1684 [12:08:50] <Iridos> rommel092079, also, for generally finding
files, read the factoid you get with: /msg dpkg apt-file
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1690 [12:10:46] <rommel092079> thanks all
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1716 [12:18:57] <aricz> nm, bluetooth on ubilinux does work out of
the box
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1737 [12:26:01] <Arch> night
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1748 [12:32:48] <pingfloyd> Iridos: yeah, i think it's for
validating the transfer itself
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1751 [12:33:35] <pingfloyd> Iridos: so it covers the potential of
corruption in transfer, but not so much from there.
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1754 [12:34:50] <pingfloyd> Iridos: so the general consensus is a
second run for post-copy verification which makes sense if you think
about how rsync behaves on subsequent runs
1755 [12:35:32] <pingfloyd> i.e., nothing should be copied if
everything is exactly the same
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1758 [12:36:05] <Iridos> quick changing files would have changed,
though
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1761 [12:36:25] <pingfloyd> Iridos: of course, but that would fail
verification with other backup programs too
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1763 [12:36:45] <pingfloyd> only difference would be when it
changed
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1765 [12:37:33] <pingfloyd> the latter program would be if changed
mid copy. But snapshots as a source for backup are always a good
idea because if the file changes mid copy you've got
consistency issues on your hands.
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1770 [12:38:13] <pingfloyd> though seems like most backup programs
run a verification phase after backup phase anyway
1771 [12:38:18] <Iridos> you mean filesystem snapshots?
1772 [12:38:34] <themill> well, a verification program should be
verifying that the backup still matches the files that were on the
disk at the time, not verifying that the backup still matches the
files *currently* on disk
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1775 [12:38:48] <pingfloyd> Iridos: yeah
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1779 [12:39:07] <Iridos> lunch
1780 [12:39:48] <pingfloyd> or what I do is use a lvm snapshot
1781 [12:40:08] <pingfloyd> and rsync from that
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1786 [12:42:02] <themill> you still have no way of verifying later
on that the backup is still OK, that it hasn't been degraded,
corrupted, tampered with, accidentally lost bits, …
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1807 [12:52:33] <rommel092079> good day guys. I have found the
firmware file rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw I burn it to cd, but the
installer cant load the missing firmware still. What to do here ?
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1810 [12:54:33] <michaelis> rommel092079: I had the same problem
yesterday, but with a USB stick.
1811 [12:54:53] <rommel092079> so put that on usb stick?
1812 [12:54:56] <michaelis> rommel092079: Have you put the drivers
in firmware folder?
1813 [12:55:31] <rommel092079> yes i tried that on dvd
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1817 [12:57:11] <themill> rommel092079: do you need wireless
access to complete the installation? The path of least resistance is
to plug it in...
1818 [12:57:19] <michaelis> rommel092079: If my memory
doesn't fail me I think it had something to do with the
partition table on my USB stick. I had to mkfs.vfat -I directly on
/dev/sdc and NOT /dev/sdc1.
1819 [12:57:55] <themill> (that rings a bell too)
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1821 [12:58:05] <rommel092079> i think it works now on usb. thanks
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1823 [12:58:16] <michaelis> rommel092079: Your welcome.
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1827 [12:58:26] <themill> you should be able to throw the original
package on the usb stick, no need to extract it
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1830 [12:59:11] <rommel092079> yes. thanks again for that input.
good day
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1838 [13:01:44] <dagerik> im having troubles with running
virtualbox:
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1842 [13:02:48] <michaelis> dagerik: Have you tried to install
virtualbox-dkms?
1843 [13:02:55] <dagerik> yeah it's installed
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1851 [13:04:33] <michaelis> dagerik: Have you read this:
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1865 [13:10:15] <dagerik> im getting Module build for the
currently running kernel was skipped since the
1866 [13:10:16] <dagerik> kernel source for this kernel does not
seem to be installed.
1867 [13:10:22] <dagerik> on apt-get install --reinstall
virtualbox-dkms
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1870 [13:12:33] <michaelis> dagerik:
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1871 [13:12:40] <michaelis> I'm going for lunch.
1872 [13:13:15] <dagerik> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
1873 [13:13:18] <dagerik> E: Unable to locate package
linux-headers-4.3.0-1-amd64
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1889 [13:25:44] <uhrias> hi, do you know what's the name of
package to install kde web accounts in debian?
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1891 [13:26:21] <uhrias> just curious
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1897 [13:31:11] <Iridos> maybe plasma-dataengines-workspace and
related?
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1903 [13:32:24] <dagerik> im having troubles with virtualbox
because I have messed up kernel install. I have differnet kernel and
kernel sources than what is installed I think
1904 [13:32:29] <dagerik> how can I fix this
1905 [13:32:50] <uhrias> Iridos: thanks, but it seems there
isn't in debian testing
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1907 [13:33:12] <Iridos> and it doesn't contain any files
that have "web" in the name in stable
1908 [13:33:24] <Iridos> judd, versions
plasma-dataengines-workspace
1909 [13:33:26] <judd> Package: plasma-dataengines-workspace on
amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; jessie:
4:4.11.13-2
1910 [13:33:45] <Iridos> judd, versions plasma-widgets-workspace
1911 [13:33:46] <judd> Package: plasma-widgets-workspace on amd64
-- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; jessie:
4:4.11.13-2
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1913 [13:34:32] <Iridos> uhrias, ask in #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net for things regarding testing/unstable, I only have a
debian-stable here
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1915 [13:35:53] <Iridos> uhrias, or for any distro...
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1916 [13:35:58] <uhrias> Iridos:
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1919 [13:38:17] <rgr> dagerik: what do yo mean you have a
different kernel than the one installed? Ensure you have the sources
for the installed one installed and reinstall vbox.
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1922 [13:40:46] <DrOwl> Hi all, is there a methord to create a
"virtual" usb storage device
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1924 [13:42:27] <rozie> DrOwl: what do you want to achieve?
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1926 [13:42:36] <DrOwl> I have an apliance that needs a license
key mounted on a USB stick, but its all wraped up in virtulisation
(VMware) i was wondering if there was some way to localy emulate a
USB storage device from local files
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1928 [13:43:21] <rozie> it will probably need physical device, not
just license file
1929 [13:43:27] <DrOwl> this is asuming i can get on the shell, so
far i can only see a way to get to a TUI
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1931 [13:43:36] <rozie> but you can mount on loop device
1932 [13:43:40] <malu72> hello. i have debian testing running. For
example the openjdk in debian jessie is newer because of some
security fixes. How comes that the openjdk version is older in
testing?+
1933 [13:43:58] <rozie> malu72: what version do you have?
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1936 [13:44:08] <DrOwl> no they say just but a key (a .deb) file
on a FAT32 formated USB stick and mount it on the appliance
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1940 [13:44:34] <soee> hi, is it safe to update nginx on Jessie
from 16. to 1.8 ?
1941 [13:44:47] <DrOwl> so far i only have infomation that it will
scan any local USB storage devices looking for the file
1942 [13:44:51] <soee> and is there some better way than dotdeb ?
1943 [13:45:03] <malu72> rozie, in jessie the version is
7u95-2.6.4-1
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1946 [13:45:45] <malu72> in testing it is 7u91-2.6.3-1
1947 [13:45:47] <rozie> malu72: you can grab 7u95-2.6.4-1 from
unstable
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1951 [13:46:17] <malu72> how comes that testing is older than
jessie?
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1954 [13:47:32] <markybob> ,v nginx
1955 [13:47:33] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3;
squeeze-security-lts: 0.7.67-3+squeeze4+deb6u1; squeeze-backports:
1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4;
wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; jessie: 1.6.2-5; wheezy-backports:
1.6.2-5+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u1;
jessie-backports: 1.9.10-1~bpo8+1; sid:
1956 [13:47:34] <judd> 1.9.10-1; stretch: 1.9.10-1
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1958 [13:48:10] <markybob> rozie: ^ so jessie-backports has the
same version as sid.
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1960 [13:48:20] <markybob> !tell rozie about jessie-backports
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1965 [13:50:27] <rozie> markybob: he asked about testing
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1967 [13:50:53] <grauzikas> hello, today i was installing one of
servers and i have detected strange think, in partitioning menu i
have created partition, but i cant select ext4 filesystem type
because i just cant see it
1968 [13:51:07] <grauzikas> there is btrfs swap xfs and so on, but
no ext4
1969 [13:51:19] <markybob> rozie: what he asked about was your
misinformation about testing
1970 [13:51:25] <grauzikas> i have installed a lot of servers
never had this issue
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1973 [13:52:26] <grauzikas> guided partitioning creates it
1974 [13:52:40] <grauzikas> but i need manualy select size for
partitions
1975 [13:52:52] <grauzikas> and from manual menu i cant see ext4
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1977 [13:53:37] <grauzikas> i`m using netinstall
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1980 [13:58:32] <malu72> hello. is it possible to have 3d
accellaration with debian jessie and Intel HD 520 aka skylake?
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1984 [14:00:25] <markybob> malu72: for skylake you get much better
graphics and battery life with 4.5. but you'll need to compile
that yourself
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1988 [14:03:36] <malu72> markybob, do i only need to compile the
kernel or the graphics stack as well? Because with the backports in
jessie skylake is working. only problem is videos are soo slow.
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1990 [14:04:07] <markybob> malu72: just the kernel
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1993 [14:04:32] <malu72> and then i will have accellaration for
e.g. vdeos?
1994 [14:04:56] <markybob> malu72: that's my understanding
from the changelogs. i don't have skylake so i've never
tested it myself
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1996 [14:06:14] <malu72> ok. but the problem is that even i use
kernel 4.4 i only got gallium as graphics stack
1997 [14:06:43] <malu72> so this shoul change then with 4.5?
asking because i tried with kernel 4.4 and debian unstable and there
i have 3d-acc
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2001 [14:08:02] <markybob> malu72: 4.4 was the graphics change.
4.5 was the big powersaving thing. so i don't know.
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2005 [14:11:03] <markybob> grauzikas: is this a virtual or
physical server?
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2009 [14:11:27] <grauzikas> phisical
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2011 [14:11:52] <markybob> grauzikas: usb install? how did you
copy it to usb?
2012 [14:11:53] <grauzikas> this is netinstall
2013 [14:12:00] <grauzikas> via pxe
2014 [14:12:09] <grauzikas> i have used that pxe install many
times
2015 [14:12:09] <markybob> hmm
2016 [14:12:21] <grauzikas> but today i have detected that there
is no ext4
2017 [14:12:47] <grauzikas> via netinstall partitioning tools are
downloading from apt sources
2018 [14:12:55] <grauzikas> so i beleave that it is global problem
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2020 [14:13:20] <markybob> are you using those funky alpha 5
netinst iso?
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2022 [14:13:43] <grauzikas> i have normal debian wheezy netinstall
2023 [14:14:08] <grauzikas> i have downloaded it from debian
source and i have only added bnx driver into it
2024 [14:14:15] <grauzikas> and i have used it many times
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2026 [14:14:33] <grauzikas> i have installed via this pxe more
then 50 servers and never had any problem
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2079 [14:39:39] <alez2> hello
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2082 [14:40:48] <alez2> anyone using weechat here? i want to login
to my account with this client
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2093 [14:44:09] <opencert> heyyy
2094 [14:44:10] <opencert> hi
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2097 [14:44:22] <opencert> how i can back this file ?
replaced-url
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2101 [14:45:05] <themill> opencert: what are you trying to do?
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2105 [14:46:23] <opencert> look here:
replaced-url
2106 [14:46:31] <opencert> i try this
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2110 [14:47:11] <opencert> i see file but i cant recovery
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2113 [14:47:43] <opencert> dls /dev/sda1 1835008-1867775 >
/root/home/x/block.dat
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2119 [14:48:47] <opencert> the last command: dls /dev/sda1
1835008-1867775 > /root/home/x/block.dat
2120 [14:48:51] <opencert> not workin
2121 [14:48:52] <opencert> g
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2126 [14:50:24] <drmagoo> opencert: have you installed it ?
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2133 [14:52:45] <opencert> drmagoo: what?
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2136 [14:53:18] <drmagoo> opencert: have you installed the
sleuthkit-package ?
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2140 [14:54:34] <opencert> no
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2144 [14:55:14] <opencert> how i can install it?
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2146 [14:56:03] <drmagoo> opencert: sudo apt-get update &&
apt-get install sleuthkit
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2149 [14:58:20] <opencert> Unknown request "dls". Type
"?" for a request list.
2150 [14:58:27] <opencert> not working
2151 [14:59:02] <aricz> Hi, I'm following this guide
replaced-url
2152 [14:59:50] <aricz> running 'bluetoothctl' and
executing 'power on' gives "No default controller
available"
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2154 [15:00:10] <Aliekezhi> hi, do I need to have jessie_backports
in my sources.list to remove a software installed from it ? I'm
having trouble trying to remove flash from backports....
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2157 [15:01:28] <aricz> I've also done the
"Troubleshooting the pairing" in the same guide
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2160 [15:02:16] <Aliekezhi> (oh it seems only aptitude has a
problem with it, not apt-get...)
2161 [15:02:38] <Aliekezhi> should I trust aptitude conflict
detection or should I use only apt-get ?
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2163 [15:03:40] <drmagoo> opencert: which version of debian are
you using ?
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2168 [15:05:18] <opencert> i use kali :(
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2170 [15:05:39] <opencert> I regret
2171 [15:05:42] <drmagoo> opencert: then I suggest you ask in
#kali or #kali-linux
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2175 [15:07:58] <bezaban> ,v salt-minion
2176 [15:07:59] <judd> Package: salt-minion on amd64 --
squeeze-backports-sloppy: 0.15.1-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports:
0.17.5+ds-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2014.1.13+ds-3; stretch: 2015.8.7+ds-1;
sid: 2015.8.8+ds-1
2177 [15:08:20] <drmagoo> aricz: try> lsmod | grep bluetooth
and see if the kernelmodule is loaded.
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2179 [15:09:14] <aricz> 'lsmod | grep bluetooth' gives
this output
replaced-url
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2191 [15:13:26] <aricz> so seems the module is loaded right? and
'/etc/init.d/bluetooth status' also seems to show it as
running
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2193 [15:13:31] <g00se> Could i please have the proper command to
disable xscreensaver via systemd?
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2199 [15:14:28] <g00se> I thought it was sudo systemctl disable
xscreensaver.service but obviously not
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2203 [15:15:29] <drmagoo> aricz: that looks right. Have you tried
any of the GUI's to set this up? I dont use any bluetooth
devices my self so I cant do any tests...
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2208 [15:15:50] <jno7463> xscreensaver is not a system-wide
service. it is started during graphical login as part of the
user's X session.
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2211 [15:16:29] <aricz> drmagoo: haven't tried anything but
console yet
2212 [15:16:44] <jno7463> g00se: if you want to disable it, just
run xscreensaver-demo from a terminal and change config to disable
it
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2215 [15:16:58] <aricz> but guess I gotta get into gui then, been
sitting with this for several hours now.. 'blueman' ..
here I come hehe
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2218 [15:17:21] <drmagoo> aricz: reading from the wiki...
"hcitool scan" does that provide anything useful ?
2219 [15:17:51] <aricz> gives the same problem, there's no
device available
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2222 [15:18:12] <drmagoo> aricz: then I dont have any ideas =(
sry...
2223 [15:18:14] <aricz> I've tried everything in the guide I
think
2224 [15:18:18] <aricz> npnp, thanks for trying
2225 [15:18:20] <g00se> jno7463: OK thanks.
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2230 [15:19:32] <aricz> seems the bluetooth module is loaded.. but
it isn't enabled.. hah
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2246 [15:20:55] <drmagoo> aricz: =)
2247 [15:21:12] <g00se> jno7463: i actually can't see WHERE
you disable it in x*-demo
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2253 [15:21:47] <g00se> Got it - it's in Mode
2254 [15:21:50] <jno7463> g00se: Mode: [Disable Screen Saver]
2255 [15:21:55] <markybob> hell why not just apt-get remove it if
you don't want it?
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2464 [15:22:22] -debhelper- Channel locked temporarily due to flood,
sorry for any inconvenience this may cause :-)
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2467 [15:23:32] <g00se> markybob: because it might break something
[though not hugely likely]? I don't NOT want it. It's just
that upstream doesn't want me to have it (at least not that
version)
2468 [15:23:49] <aricz> markybob: ty, xscreensaver is now gone,
forever
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2574 [15:24:13] <markybob> g00se: yeah i know about the bug. try
light-locker if you want something
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2602 [15:24:54] <g00se> markybob: Nah. Don't need anything
fortunately
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2610 [15:25:06] <jno7463> g00se: oh, you mean the nice
"xscreensaver is very old" bug? :)
2611 [15:25:09] <poncha> i have my own (custom) init.d script
which i used previously on older debian, and (on jessie) the system
complains i am missing a .service file for it... why?
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2615 [15:25:44] <g00se> Exactly
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2619 [15:26:17] <g00se> Although of course it's not a bug.
It's an insult
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2623 [15:26:49] <poncha> the script uses init-tools. does that
imply new requirements now? or something else? cause if i just
create a dummy shellscript with case in /etc/init.d - it runs
without any other requirements
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2626 [15:27:06] <themill> poncha: full output would be useful?
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2634 [15:27:25] <poncha> themill: [....] Starting ramdisk-fonts
(via systemctl): ramdisk-fonts.serviceFailed to start
ramdisk-fonts.service: Unit ramdisk-fonts.service failed to load: No
such file or directory.
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2656 [15:29:01] <poncha> themill: now, i do not have systemd unit
files , yeah (but neither did i have them on older debian)
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2659 [15:29:11] <grafos> hi, debian user here. i need an image to
ascii generator. what are my options
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2669 [15:29:59] <poncha> grafos: apt-cache search ascii | grep -i
image
2670 [15:30:02] <themill> poncha: where is this init script and
how is it installed?
2671 [15:30:19] <poncha> themill: i wrote it, can pastebin. just a
sec
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2682 [15:31:08] <poncha> themill:
replaced-url
2683 [15:31:09] <jno7463> grafos: you could install netpbm and use
something like pnmtopng file.png | ppmtopgm | pnmscale -w 158 |
pgmtopbm | pbmtoascii -2x4
2684 [15:31:09] <themill> poncha: and is it in /etc/init.d? (and
has it been there since boot or only just copied in or ...)
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2687 [15:31:41] <poncha> themill: yep, it's in /etc/init.d -
cause i want it (in the end) to be used on startup to preload stuff
into ramdisk
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2692 [15:32:08] <grafos> jno7463: yeah i would like to actually
make a frame based cursor animation of playing otters, kind of like
this one
replaced-url
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2694 [15:32:27] <poncha> themill: it hasn't been there yet on
this system, but was there on older system which i am migrating from
;)
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2698 [15:33:03] <grafos> going to need to link a bunch of tools
together ina script, like imagemagick, and then i'll end up
rendering them with my ANSI vt100 cursor drawing library
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2700 [15:33:11] <g00se> Nice script
2701 [15:33:13] <poncha> the script creates (or destroys - on
stop) the ramdisk, loads/syncs files from local hdd
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2703 [15:33:47] <themill> poncha: installing it with update-rc.d
will cause additional things to happen which I suspect are necessary
here
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2706 [15:34:19] <poncha> themill: but that would register for
runlevels... meanwhile i cant even run it manually
2707 [15:34:27] <jno7463> grafos: maybe some aalib based thing...
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2711 [15:34:32] <poncha> i will try though ;)
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2713 [15:34:41] <themill> poncha: it will do more than that
2714 [15:35:49] <poncha> update-rc.d ramdisk-fonts enable
2715 [15:35:49] <poncha> update-rc.d: error: no runlevel symlinks
to modify, aborting!
2716 [15:36:08] <poncha> it clearly doesn't understand
something about it ;)
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2719 [15:36:40] <poncha> but if i just create a dummy shellscript
"blah" inside with just "#!/bin/bash" - it does
not try to ... just runs it as-is
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2729 [15:38:23] <themill> poncha: make sure it has something to do
then; disable then enable for instance
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2734 [15:39:39] <poncha> themill: if i run "update-rc.d
ramdisk-fonts disable" - it says the same thing, so it's
not like it was already enabled
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2736 [15:40:30] <themill> oh, you want "defaults" not
"enable"
2737 [15:41:15] <themill> "defaults" actually installs
the init script links, "enable"/"disable" just
tweak K<->S names
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2739 [15:41:21] <poncha> now it did something... so now i get
other type of errors ;)
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2741 [15:42:10] <poncha> [....] Starting ramdisk-fonts (via
systemctl): ramdisk-fonts.serviceJob for ramdisk-fonts.service
failed. See 'systemctl status ramdisk-fonts.service' and
'journalctl -xn' for details.
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2743 [15:43:01] <poncha> hm. it created that
"ramdisk-fonts.service" somewhere for me - but not
anywhere in /etc
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2746 [15:43:09] <themill> it's quite good at telling you
where to find the information
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2748 [15:44:18] <poncha> yeah. now the info gets better ;)
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2753 [15:45:52] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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2756 [15:46:52] <tobiasBora> A patch in the kernel has been found
here :
replaced-url
2757 [15:47:23] <tobiasBora> What is the good procedure to do to
add it in the next version of the kernel ?
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2759 [15:48:10] <tobiasBora> (This patch make Mediatek bluetooth
work under Kernel 4.x
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2769 [15:48:57] <poncha> oh. i was wrong... so much time has
passed since i wrote this - i forgot what it does and does not ;)))
it does not *create* the ramdisk. it should already be mounted (via
fstab) - hence the dependency on mountall
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2772 [15:49:18] <poncha> after creating the ramdisk - it worked
fine ;)
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2793 [15:53:59] <iamnotarobot> In debian are additional TTYs
enabled by default? I.e. if you press
<ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> does it change TTY?
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2796 [15:54:28] <colo-work> yes
2797 [15:54:29] <ksk> yap
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2800 [15:54:38] <Johann> today you are most likely on tty1 by
default
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2802 [15:55:16] <poncha> X runs on tty1 now?
2803 [15:55:38] <iamnotarobot> My friend has a debian box and
reckons that it wont let him do that; is there are config files
which could have been altered to disabled them?
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2806 [15:56:16] <Johann> poncha: i think so, didn't use any
default installation of X for a long time so not that sure about it
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2808 [15:56:45] <markybob> yes it now does
2809 [15:56:52] <poncha> so ctrl-alt-f2 ;)
2810 [15:57:00] <mo1991_> anyone with any ideas on this update
problem?? debian stable - libsane : Depends: libsane-common (=
1.0.24-8) but 1.0.24-8+deb8u1 is installed
2811 [15:57:06] <zykotick9> poncha: if you use "startx"
it does, not sure about the a *dm
2812 [15:57:09] <Johann> just noting that he should try tty2
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2816 [15:57:44] <mo1991_> perhaps a bug on a recent update?
2817 [15:57:45] <Johann> mo1991_: try to update your system
(apt-get update; apt-get upgrade)
2818 [15:57:49] <poncha> exactly the reason i asked that ;) (maybe
he tries ctrl-alt-f1 from same tty... )
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2825 [15:58:17] <mo1991_> Johann that's what I was just doing
- apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
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2827 [15:58:24] <Johann> sorry
2828 [15:58:26] <Johann> misread
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2830 [15:58:50] * zykotick9 notes nvidia.com's driver sometimes
breaks the TTYs
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2832 [15:59:32] <mo1991_> gives me the error above. Strange,
usually don't see this type of "version" but in
stable. It looks to me like that is what it is - not sure though.
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2838 [16:01:01] <markybob> mo1991_: i want to see your
sources.list.
2839 [16:01:19] <themill> mo1991_: can you pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy libsane libsane-common" for us?
2840 [16:01:32] <mo1991_> yup give me a sec
2841 [16:02:25] <Johann> mo1991_: it still looks like you have a
problem in your update because libsane depends on
'libsane-common (= 1.0.24-8+deb8u1)' not
'libsane-common (= 1.0.24-8)' (see
replaced-url
2842 [16:02:45] <Johann> try to apt-get update again
2843 [16:03:37] <mo1991_>
replaced-url
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2847 [16:04:44] <themill> mo1991_: so what does "apt
upgrade" want to do?
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2851 [16:05:21] <mo1991_> wan'ts to apt-get -f install
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2854 [16:05:35] <themill> mo1991_: ok, so what does that do?
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2856 [16:06:03] <mo1991_> wants to sorry. which would probably
work. Just not sure why it would ask me to do this during standard
update process so thought i'd see what's going on.
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2860 [16:06:28] <mo1991_> It wants to force the versions , but
this isn't normally necessary in a stable upgrade is it?
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2862 [16:07:04] <themill> "force versions"?
2863 [16:07:11] <themill> full output might be better
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2865 [16:09:14] <mo1991_>
replaced-url
2866 [16:09:23] <mo1991_> themill. Here is apt-get upgrade output
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2869 [16:10:19] <themill> mo1991_: what's the output of
"apt-cache policy libsane:i386" then?
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2873 [16:11:35] <mo1991_>
replaced-url
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2875 [16:11:52] <mo1991_> this is where I stop understanding
what's going on.
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2877 [16:12:22] <mo1991_> perhaps a version but in the i386
version??
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2880 [16:13:27] <themill> most odd. apt seems to have all the
packages it needs but just doesn't want to install them.
2881 [16:13:50] <themill> See if "aptitude full-upgrade"
wants to upgrade and configure happily
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2891 [16:16:35] <hiya> does openssl offered by debian 8 has AESNI
engine enabled?
2892 [16:16:42] <hiya> if not how to do it?
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2897 [16:18:19] <Martyn> Hello all
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2900 [16:18:36] <Martyn> Is there a simple way to turn an
installed system into a preseed file?
2901 [16:18:38] <mo1991_> the mill -
replaced-url
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2903 [16:18:51] <Martyn> i.e. go through an install once, and then
generate a valid preseed package list?
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2905 [16:19:40] <ksk> hiya: does not look like its builtin to me.
You would probably build it yourself, I would however not
recommecned that for software as big/complex as openssl..
2906 [16:19:45] <themill> mo1991_: ah! well that's progress.
I had been wondering why apt had died in the middle of your upgrade.
What's wrong with
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-coolscan3.la ?
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2913 [16:21:02] <mi11k1> is there a way to give higher priority to
USB devices , such as Wireless , I am using hostapd and it seems
kind of sluggish, transferring locally with Samba and SFTP?
2914 [16:21:46] <hiya> ksk, but I need it for openvpn
2915 [16:21:50] <jhutchins> Martyn:
replaced-url
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2917 [16:22:16] <jhutchins> Martyn:
replaced-url
2918 [16:22:23] <noobandnoober> Hi
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2920 [16:22:42] <Aliekezhi> hi, how can I downgrade a package from
stretch to jessie ?
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2922 [16:22:57] <mo1991_> themill - I don't know??? Any
thoughts as to find out? I certainly haven't messed with that
file
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2925 [16:23:35] <themill> mo1991_: have a look at the directory
and its permissions; have a look at the output of "mount"
and "dmesg"
2926 [16:23:38] <noobandnoober> I tried to add a monitor to my
laptop, but the monitor stop being detected after GRUB, what can be
the problem?
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2929 [16:25:14] <axk4545> with the standard debian live cd what
package mgmt frontend is installed?
2930 [16:26:22] <jhutchins> axk4545: You should have apt-get and
probably aptitude.
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2932 [16:27:01] <axk4545> jhutchins: nothing GUI by default?
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2936 [16:28:58] <karlpinc> hiya: What are you really trying to do?
(I can't even find a AESNS engine for openssl on the web.)
2937 [16:29:23] <hiya> karlpinc, AESNI for openssl = popular in
openvpn community
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2944 [16:30:44] <karlpinc> hiya: Ah. AES-NI. That's a
processor optimization. You don't really need it, it just makes
things run faster.
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2948 [16:31:39] <hiya> karlpinc, Exactly, and that is what I want
right now
2949 [16:31:39] <hiya> :D
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2951 [16:31:59] <karlpinc> hiya: To see if it's on try answer
8 from
replaced-url
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2953 [16:33:02] <mo1991reg> themill - I dont' see any issues
with dmesg or mount that stick out to me???
2954 [16:33:22] <karlpinc> hiya: My experience with these sorts of
engines is that the context switching required to go in and out of
ring0 makes the engines not worth it. YMMV.
2955 [16:33:32] <jhutchins> axk4545: Why would you use a GUI for
package management?
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2957 [16:33:43] <jhutchins> axk4545: aptitude includes a text menu
mode.
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2959 [16:34:09] <axk4545> jhutchins: I wouldn't but I am
writing an install guide for new users.
2960 [16:34:12] <themill> aes-ni isn't an engine anyway,
it's an implementation detail of a lower layer
2961 [16:34:34] * karlpinc thinks that aptitude includes the text menu
mode from hell. But maybe that's just me.
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2963 [16:35:12] <Martyn> jhutchins : Thank you!
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2965 [16:35:31] <Martyn> jhutchins : I'm doing a full upgrade
of all my systems from squeeze->wheezy
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2968 [16:35:42] <themill> axk4545: if you don't want to give
them a console based system, why are you giving them a console based
live image?
2969 [16:35:44] <zykotick9> karlpinc: your not alone. i love
ncurses based programs... BUT aptitude is not on the list.
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2971 [16:35:50] <Martyn> some can't make the transition, so
I'm having to preseed install a number of virtual instances
2972 [16:36:27] <karlpinc> Hum. If ans-ns can be utilized in
userspace maybe it's worth it. And if so it's probably
"on" in debian.
2973 [16:36:27] <themill> mo1991reg: I'm stuck on what could
give that error beyond some sort of unhappy filesystem. I'm
assuming that /usr isn't on nfs or something like that....
2974 [16:36:41] <themill> karlpinc: it should be, yes
2975 [16:37:00] <Martyn> jhutchins : I use a GUI for package
management --- across a very large cluster. When you have a couple
thousand machines, it's nice to be able to keep track of it all
2976 [16:37:18] <mo1991reg> themill - nope, I've been running
this system as is for quite some time - like a year. nothing special
really
2977 [16:37:39] <mo1991reg> only home is on a different partition
2978 [16:38:11] <axk4545> themill: I didn't think I was. I am
planning to use this iso: debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-standard.iso. Is
it text based?
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2980 [16:38:24] <themill> axk4545: that's what the
documentation says.
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2982 [16:39:38] <axk4545> themill: oops. what is the generic
flavor that would be analogous to Ubuntu Desktop or Fedora
Workstation?
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2986 [16:40:26] <themill> axk4545:
replaced-url
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2990 [16:41:24] <mo1991reg> themill - and the libsane-coolscan3.la
file has not been touched since 2014...... permissions look right,
etc.
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2992 [16:42:17] <axk4545> themill: ok. probably should write it
Linux Mint then.
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2994 [16:42:34] <themill> mo1991reg: what's the full output
of "mount"?
2995 [16:43:28] <mo1991reg> mount
2996 [16:43:31] <mo1991reg> opps
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3008 [16:44:44] <mo1991reg> themill -
replaced-url
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3015 [16:45:45] <ashes-mobile> hello. i installed debian 8 on my
beaglebone. it's updated to latest software. if i use
wpa_supplicant and dhclient manually my wireless device will work,
but the setup i have in /etc/networks/interfaces does not work on
boot. any suggestions?
3016 [16:46:14] <themill> mo1991reg: nothing interesting there
either
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3024 [16:47:33] <mo1991reg> themill - I think I ran into something
like this before - with some kind of conflict having to do with the
:i386 package not quite being set up right and causing conflicts -
I"m talking years ago. Been a long time since I ran into
anything like this on stable.
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3027 [16:47:56] <themill> this isn't an issue with packages
and dependencies
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3029 [16:48:53] <mo1991reg> the aptitude output give an error -
unable to make backup link of
`./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-coolscan3.la' before
installing new version: Operation not permitted
3030 [16:48:54] <themill> root is being given EPERM (Operation not
permitted) when trying to copy a file; that's pretty unusual
and points to other problems but we don't know what.
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3033 [16:49:35] <themill> I assume the disk is nowhere near full
(although that should be ENOSPC)
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3038 [16:50:39] <mo1991reg> themill - disk is not full
3039 [16:51:21] <themill> When root gets EPERM that normally means
a read-only filesystem such as when a disk is dying.
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3045 [16:53:26] <mo1991reg> themill - and I have no problem
copying that file to crap.bak.......
3046 [16:54:00] <mo1991reg> using cp libsane-coolscan3.la crap.bak
3047 [16:54:04] <themill> try moving the file out of the way and
trying again
3048 [16:54:07] <LIERO> any suggestions on how to figure out what
caused a reboot?
3049 [16:54:11] <LIERO> /var/log/acpid is empty
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3056 [16:56:31] <mo1991reg> themill - this would be the problem I
think. I can't rm the file as root
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3061 [17:16:20] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: no
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3065 [17:17:48] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: see if you can find
anything network related when you run 'sudo systemctl
list-units'
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3080 [17:21:24] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: networking.service,
network.target, sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device
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3091 [17:27:08] <ashes-mobile> could it be starting from dbus?
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3096 [17:28:37] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: can you paste your
interfaces file?
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3099 [17:30:38] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark:
replaced-url
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3113 [17:35:51] <mo1991reg> themill - any thoughts on why I
can't delete that file? rebooted to see if that helped but no
go
3114 [17:35:53] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: did you follow the
instructions here:
replaced-url
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3117 [17:37:23] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i did try with the
hashed password as well
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3123 [17:38:26] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: well, for wpa-psk, you
will need the hashed key regardless, so go ahead and put it back in.
3124 [17:38:55] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i also can't
explain how eth0 is being configured with dhcp
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3127 [17:39:34] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: Well, you don't
have anything in that file that will configure eth0, so I believe
dhcp is default.
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3135 [17:42:19] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i rebooted with the
hashed password. iwconfig says no association. ifconfig shows no ip
for wlan0. and wpa_cli scan fails on wlan0
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3140 [17:44:37] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: try the wpa_cli
command with sudo
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3143 [17:45:05] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: same result
3144 [17:45:27] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: if i run
wpa_supplicant manually, then wpa_cli scan works
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3147 [17:46:13] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i don't think
wpa_supplicant is using /etc/network/interfaces
3148 [17:46:38] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: wait, do you have
anything in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ ?
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3150 [17:47:09] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: no
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3161 [17:52:49] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: if i do 'ifconfig
wlan0 up', then 'wpa_cli scan' is OK
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3165 [17:54:04] <mo1991reg> I cannot update the "sane"
package as the file
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-coolscan3.la appears to be
corrupted or something, and cannot be replaced or removed for some
unknown reason - even as root. I can create and remove other files
within that same directory. Anyone help? Very strange
3166 [17:54:26] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: after a fresh reboot i
ran 'ifconfig wlan0 up', then wpa_supplicant associated to
the AP by itself, then i ran 'dhclient wlan0', and that
works
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3194 [18:05:04] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: As far as your
interfaces file, I can't think of a reason that it's not
being used.
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3196 [18:05:42] <ksk> hey. Is there some cool encryption in
userspace deamon/application? Like a pipe or whatever where I just
put my stuff and it transparently encrypts it. Used to use encfs but
thats kinda dead IIRC
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3204 [18:07:59] <Brigo> ksk, lucks maybe?
3205 [18:09:37] <thurstylark> *luks
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3207 [18:10:05] <Arch> moring
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3226 [18:19:17] <ksk> Brigo, thurstylark yeah looks good, thanks.
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3229 [18:21:09] <Iridos> my iceweasel says I have an old and
vulnerable flashplugin of version 11.2.202.569 in Path:
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so (about:plugin)...
/usr/sbin/update-flashplugin-nonfree says I have version
11.2.202.577
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3232 [18:21:36] <Iridos> and update-flashplugin basically does
that using strings /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
|grep LNX --> LNX 11,2,202,577
3233 [18:21:56] <Brigo> Iridos, update-flashplugin install
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3242 [18:24:09] <tpap> Hi! I tried to resize (shrink) my ext4
debian partition with gparted live and debian liveCD (using gparted)
but in both cases it failed saying that i need to get a newer
version of e2fsck due to an unsupported feature of the filesystem
(metadata_csum). Anyone know what I should do?
3243 [18:24:18] <Iridos> Brigo, it's
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install ... and if you read to the end,
the plugin is on the last version that update-flashplugin supports
... but iceweasel pretends it's an older one
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3246 [18:25:12] <Brigo> Iridos, did you close iceweasel?
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3253 [18:27:00] <rozie> tpap: did you try resize2fs (from liveCD
or at least unmounted partition)?
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3255 [18:28:00] <tpap> rozie: only with gparted livecd and it says
another error due to unsupported features, now i will try from
livecd
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3260 [18:29:07] <tpap> rozie: same here (resize2fs: Filesystem has
unsupported read-only feature(s) while trying to open /dev/sda3)
3261 [18:29:20] <Iridos> Brigo, yes...
3262 [18:29:33] <Iridos> guess I can kill it another time and see
really no process is left
3263 [18:29:38] <Brigo> Iridos, i had to ask, you know it :)
3264 [18:29:41] <Iridos> looks like this
replaced-url
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3266 [18:29:53] <Iridos> well, good idea to do it another time
however useless it seems
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3269 [18:30:28] <tpap> rozie: if it mean something, i have a
gpt-type partition table
3270 [18:31:02] <rozie> what is version of resize2fs and gparted
on this live?
3271 [18:31:15] <Iridos> I only have like a 100 windows with a 100
tabs... but it's the best idea I see
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3274 [18:31:31] <Brigo> Iridos, mine:
replaced-url
3275 [18:31:36] <Iridos> well, same
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3278 [18:32:08] <Brigo> Iridos, really i am no using firefox not
iceweasel. i will check it now.
3279 [18:32:21] <tpap> rozie: gparted is 0.19.0, resize2fs is
1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
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3281 [18:32:31] <soee> someone is using dotdeb PHP7 with ISPConfig
?
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3283 [18:32:47] <Iridos> it's something in the profile...
when I start it with another profile, about:plugins reports
11.2.202.577
3284 [18:32:53] <Brigo> Iridos, now with iceweasel from
jessie.backports, no problem
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3287 [18:34:00] <rozie> tpap: so not very old
3288 [18:34:30] <Iridos> the error is gone if I start iceweasel
with a different profile... weird, both report that they use the
same .so
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3299 [18:36:02] <Brigo> maybe another .so or the cache.
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3304 [18:36:37] <tpap2> rozie: yeah. Maybe The gparted live beta
will help?
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3313 [18:39:18] <Iridos> Brigo, got it.
~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/pluginreg.dat had the older version...
obviously that's what iceweasel assumes to be the version
3314 [18:39:29] <Iridos> fun
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3361 [18:56:43] <ksk> hey debian. why is there "apt" -
and are there any docs? (that maybe state why, and how it compares
to apt-get and aptitude)
3362 [18:56:50] <ksk> I mean, yes it has colors, but..
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3368 [18:59:13] <ksk> "The apt command is meant to be
pleasant for end users and does not need to be backward compatible
like apt-get(8). Therefore some options are different:"
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3370 [18:59:50] <ksk> from man apt. okay not sure if that Is
needed but debian might know it better :)
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3404 [19:12:01] <r0ck_> guys, how can I make alias in .zshrc for
"alias sshserver1="ssh -l username xx.xxx.x.xx -p (the
port that i enter after sshserver1 command)"
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3406 [19:12:47] <Iridos> ksk, as to "why", I have no
idea. aptitude changelog apt ... first mention I find is 18 Jan 2014
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3408 [19:13:08] <Iridos> r0ck_, maybe alias sshserver1="ssh
-l username" ?
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3414 [19:14:33] <Iridos> it's cleaner and more versatile if
you make a function, aliases are a bit weird... and I use bash, not
zsh (but zsh seems to mainly implement additional features)
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3418 [19:16:03] <Tegu> for short stuff aliases are simpler, but
for a bit longer functions are feel bettery, ye
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3434 [19:21:08] <advrsy> hello
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3443 [19:23:21] <Deb_> Hey :)
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3445 [19:23:26] <Deb_> what is the germany debian channel?
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3447 [19:23:55] <markybob> !de
3448 [19:23:55] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in
#debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) -
German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net,
irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
3449 [19:24:04] <Deb_> thanks ! :)
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3451 [19:24:42] <Deb_> and does anybody know when the new DEBGEN
comes out? i really need it
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3455 [19:26:09] <markybob> Deb_: the sources.list thing?
3456 [19:26:13] <Deb_> Yeah!
3457 [19:26:18] <markybob> !debgen
3458 [19:26:18] <dpkg> Websites that generate a
<sources.list> for you (like
replaced-url
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3460 [19:26:25] <markybob> Deb_: it really fucking sucks
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3464 [19:28:07] <Deb_> yeah ..
3465 [19:28:17] <Deb_> i wait since 3 weeks ..
3466 [19:28:26] <Deb_> he should host the old one on github
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3474 [19:29:39] <Deb_> markybob: do you have experience with
alacarte? that is my problem why i am here
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3476 [19:30:35] <markybob> Deb_: no
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3478 [19:31:13] <Deb_> damn
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3481 [19:31:23] <boubou> Unable to negotiate with 192.168.10.5
port 22: no matching key exchange method found. Their offer:
diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
3482 [19:31:29] <Deb_> it doesn't work to hide the icons in
the menu
3483 [19:31:40] <Deb_> all the games and so on, i want them to
hide
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3493 [19:37:16] <troulouliou_div2> hi i m trying to add a dvd
(debian 7.7 DVD2) to an airgap system; when i do apt-cdrom add : it
says "unable to locate any packages files perhaps this is not a
debian disc
3494 [19:37:26] <troulouliou_div2> the disk is mounted iun
/media/cdrom
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3521 [19:49:22] <jhutchins> troulouliou_div2: Did you verify the
disk when you burned it?
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3526 [19:50:55] <ydu> in sources.list, if i change jessie to
stable, this will work right? what happens when stretch comes out?
just apt-get update then apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade
correct?
3527 [19:51:20] <markybob> ydu: it'll work. when stretch
comes out it'll break your system terribly. don't do it.
3528 [19:51:25] <karlpinc> ydu: When stretch comes out you will
accidently update part of your system unexpectedly and it will
probably break.
3529 [19:51:26] <greycat> Don't change to "stable",
because then when stretch is released you get a surprise
half-upgrade.
3530 [19:51:46] <karlpinc> 3 for 3 :-)
3531 [19:51:47] <ydu> good to know thanks.
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3540 [19:53:40] <troulouliou_div2> jhuebner, but weird all dvd
have same ident with DVD1 in name
3541 [19:53:42] <karlpinc> ydu: To upgrade always follow the
release notes.
3542 [19:53:54] <troulouliou_div2> jhutchins, but weird all dvd
have same ident with DVD1 in name
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3544 [19:54:19] <greycat> If you have a normal 21st century
internet connection, use a netinst image. Not a full DVD, not even a
full CD.
3545 [19:54:31] <karlpinc> greycat: He has an air-gap.
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3645 [20:34:45] <Olof_szary> Hello. It seems that I have some
problem with fans. I am using dell laptop and the pc tends to be
quite hot (like fans are starting at too high temperature). I am
reading this:
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3654 [20:36:41] <Azrael_-> hi
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3665 [20:38:05] <Azrael_-> i want to set up root to log all
actions (input+output) to a file automatically from the start. is
there a nice way to do this? (a 3rd party requested access and i
want to log all their activities)
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3667 [20:38:37] <greycat> Do you mean log their interactive shell
session?
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3670 [20:38:57] <Azrael_-> greycat: yes
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3678 [20:43:49] <greycat> google comes up with
replaced-url
3679 [20:44:04] <Langley> When will Xscreenserver be updated so it
stops nagging :(
3680 [20:44:20] <karlpinc> Langley: I've noticed that? Is
there a bug report? If not then....
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3682 [20:44:29] <Langley> There is
3683 [20:44:48] <markybob> !xscreensaver
3684 [20:44:48] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it,
xscreensaver is upstream doesn't understand how stable distro
works so users are getting "very old" alerts. consider
light-locker if you need something.
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3685 [20:45:17] <Langley> So, update when?
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3687 [20:45:33] <markybob> Langley: probably never. that's
not how stable works
3688 [20:45:59] <Langley> Pretty sure bugs gets updated in stable
too
3689 [20:46:32] <karlpinc> Langley: Yah. But they have to be
important to get updated.
3690 [20:46:34] <markybob> it isnt a bug. it's a
"feature" put there by upstream
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3692 [20:47:05] <Langley> It is both important and a bug
3693 [20:47:07] <Azrael_-> greycat: thanks, missed that site so
far. gotta have a look if this can be done with deb7
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3696 [20:47:32] <markybob> Langley: so far the powers that be
disagree with you.
3697 [20:47:44] <markybob> Langley: you're welcome to add to
the report
3698 [20:47:51] <greycat> What the hell does xscreensaver do that
could possibly be *date dependent*?
3699 [20:47:54] <Langley> Then I am severely disappointed in the
powers
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3702 [20:48:11] <karlpinc> greycat: Seems, it can bitch.
3703 [20:48:11] <markybob> greycat: not a goddamn thing. it's
ridiculous
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3706 [20:48:37] <karlpinc> After a while it's not shiny
enough. :)
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3737 [21:00:34] <Azrael_-> i want to enable logging for
root-ssh-sessions. i added "session required pam_tty_audit.so
enable=*" to /etc/pam.d/sshd, installed auditd, but
couldn't login any more. this was the log-session: PAM unable
to dlopen(pam_tty_audit.so): /lib/security/pam_tty_audit.so: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory how can i enable
it?
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3742 [21:01:39] <grawity> by installing the package which has that
file
3743 [21:01:48] <grawity> which seems to be libpam-modules,
according to apt-file.
3744 [21:01:49] <greycat> pdo says it's in libpam-modules
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3748 [21:02:02] <Azrael_-> k
3749 [21:02:05] <grawity> ...which is odd, isn't that
installed by default?
3750 [21:02:21] <greycat> But it's in
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/security/pam_tty_audit.so not
/lib/security/pam_tty_audit.so
3751 [21:02:23] <Azrael_-> looking for it
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3762 [21:05:07] <akira_> Secure boot support?
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3768 [21:06:09] <Azrael_-> libpam-modules:amd64 is installed. but
audit isn't available. only these modules are available:
replaced-url
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3771 [21:06:44] <greycat> Ahhh, wheezy.
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3774 [21:07:10] <Azrael_-> didn't know the feature was so
new. any alternative suggestions for wheezy?
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3776 [21:07:26] <akira_> Yeah.
3777 [21:07:28] <akira_> Jessie.
3778 [21:07:40] <Azrael_-> akira_: thanks....
3779 [21:07:41] <akira_> Don't worry, dist-upgrade is a
thing.
3780 [21:07:49] <akira_> HURG
3781 [21:07:54] <akira_> I meant distribution upgrade.
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3783 [21:08:02] <teraflops> heh
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3785 [21:08:04] <Azrael_-> akira_: not today
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3787 [21:08:43] <Iridos> there's no time like now
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3795 [21:12:36] <teraflops> Azrael_-: nah take your time if
you're planning a dist-upgrade aka read the documentation
3796 [21:13:22] <teraflops> Azrael_-: I read HURD :P
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3798 [21:13:39] <teraflops> ups ^akira_
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3800 [21:13:44] <Azrael_-> thanks, but i'm still in the need
of a logging-option for wheezy. any suggestions?
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3808 [21:15:58] <ScreamerX> why is it so hard to create packages
for debian?
3809 [21:16:18] <ScreamerX> no other distribution has such a
complicated build system.
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3811 [21:16:26] <jelly> because they have to be Just Right™
3812 [21:16:26] <tharkun> I am trying to do a VERY basic install.
but the installer keeps pulling stuff that is not needed for a
headless server. How can I install a true minimal system?
3813 [21:16:48] <jelly> ScreamerX: all the distros derived from
debian do, probably?
3814 [21:16:55] <ashes-mobile> i have problems setting up wlan0
with debian 8. /etc/network/interfaces isn't bringing up
wlan0... i need to do 'ifconfig wlan0 up' and then run
'dhclient wlan0'. i don't know what is misconfigured.
can any of you help me?
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3818 [21:17:51] <ScreamerX> jelly, slackbuilds are easy, ebuilds
are easy, archs abs scripts are easy. debian: rules? makefile that
calls pearl scripts? wtf?
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3823 [21:19:41] <jelly> ScreamerX: unless you have an actual tech
support question, this kind of commentary is probably better suited
to our social channel #debian-offtopic
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3825 [21:21:08] <ScreamerX> jelly, i have a actual tech question:
what is the easiest way to create a *.deb package from a zip file
that consists of java binaries (jar files)?
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3829 [21:23:40] <jelly> ScreamerX: it depends; why do you want to
make it a .deb in the first place? Do you want dependencies handled?
Are there any?
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3833 [21:24:36] <ScreamerX> the only dependency is: java/jdk. why
do i want to make it a deb? cause i like to have all files on the
system handled by a package manager.
3834 [21:25:12] <ScreamerX> they are signed, easily updated, etc.
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3836 [21:25:19] <teraflops> ScreamerX: hehe
3837 [21:25:41] <jelly> ScreamerX: how many machines are you going
to deploy this to?
3838 [21:25:52] <ScreamerX> hm - 5?
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3840 [21:26:14] <ScreamerX> and i dont want to install updates by
hand.
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3842 [21:27:00] <jelly> if you think recreating a dummy .deb from
a .zip or .tar archive every time is saner, use alien to just
convert it
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3845 [21:27:09] <teraflops> ashes-mobile: mind pasting the
/etc/network/interfaces file to a pastebin service so we can take a
look at it?
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3847 [21:27:45] <ScreamerX> jelly, why isnt there something like a
simple build-script?
3848 [21:27:59] <teraflops> ashes-mobile: please do not use
pastebin.com
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3851 [21:28:16] <jelly> ScreamerX: what build script? You have
binary .jars, they're built already
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3855 [21:28:50] <ScreamerX> jelly, like ebuilds? slackbuilds? what
ever?
3856 [21:28:58] <teraflops> for packaging the shit I suppose not
building the jars
3857 [21:29:06] <ScreamerX> "alien" to convert packages
looks nice :-)
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3860 [21:29:34] <jelly> alien is good enough to package a tree
with some files.
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3862 [21:30:37] <teraflops> and yeah I know jar are nor binaries,
/me returns to idling
3863 [21:31:06] <jelly> teraflops: but they are; an end product of
compiling
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3865 [21:31:31] <jelly> the fact they're somewhat portable
doesn't make them any less "source code"
3866 [21:31:34] <teraflops> jelly: jar are not binaries are java
files compressed
3867 [21:31:48] <jelly> no, they're not .java source
compressed.
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3870 [21:31:58] <greycat> If it's a .jar full of .java
(compiled) files then it's binaries.
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3872 [21:32:04] <jelly> they're compiled bytecode and
resources.
3873 [21:32:09] <greycat> or wait, which thing is the java
compiled...
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3875 [21:32:26] <greycat> .class maybe? I forget.
3876 [21:32:27] <jelly> don't remember, either
3877 [21:32:38] <teraflops> java does not do binaries
3878 [21:33:20] <jelly> we can argue semantics in #debian-offtopic
3879 [21:33:22] <greycat> Java creates machine-readable bytecode
files. They are binaries.
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3883 [21:35:21] <teraflops> depends on your interpretation
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3887 [21:36:18] <teraflops> greycat: is not processor-specific so
it's not binary
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3890 [21:36:31] <jelly> teraflops: drop it
3891 [21:36:45] <teraflops> it's a thing that I dislike
(java) so nvm
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3906 [21:42:10] <jmarciano> mama mia, so many people here...
3907 [21:42:26] <tharkun> How can I install a base system and
start from there. All the options I've tried so far are
overbloated with non needed packages.
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3912 [21:43:57] <markybob> tharkun: netinst does that
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3918 [21:45:18] <tharkun> markybob: I believe any install media
should give the option. I just am unable to find it.
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3920 [21:45:47] <markybob> tharkun: there is no
'minimal' option. you just uncheck everything in tasksel
3921 [21:45:55] <markybob> that gives you minimum
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3927 [21:47:56] <Necrosporus> What do you think about this:
replaced-url
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3931 [21:48:59] <tharkun> markybob: it does not give you minimum
any more. fully installed server uses only 293 packages. minimum
install as you propose installs 473 packages. And lots of stuff only
consumes space and are totally irrelevant for a headless server.
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3936 [21:50:06] <markybob> tharkun: i only ever use netinst. never
touched graphical. you can unselect in netinst. that's all
i'm saying. i don't know what graphical does or what you
think minimum is
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3940 [21:50:41] <jmcnaught> tharkun: one thing i've noticed
is that gnupg-agent pulls in pinentry-gtk2, but you can replace it
with pinentry-curses which doesn't depend on all those X11
related libraries
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3942 [21:50:52] <jmarciano> Necrosporus: wrong question maybe...
:-)
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3944 [21:50:58] <tharkun> markybob: I unchecked everything and it
is indeed very bloated.
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3948 [21:51:45] <tharkun> jmcnaught: Thanks that is but one. There
are lots of stuff totally irrelevant if you are running headless.
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3951 [21:52:23] <jmcnaught> tharkun: do you know about priorities
in Debian, that might provide some useful context for you:
replaced-url
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3953 [21:52:36] <Azrael_-> could it be like there is no option to
log the session in wheezy at all?
3954 [21:52:55] <markybob> Azrael_-: what are you talking about?
3955 [21:53:01] <tharkun> jmcnaught: Thanks I'll read it now.
3956 [21:53:10] <jmcnaught> tharkun: if you want a really really
minimal system, you could try just using debootstrap. it's a
little more difficult but there's a chapter about it in the
install manual
3957 [21:54:07] <Azrael_-> markybob: i want to log all
root-actions but as i'm in wheezy pam_tty_audit.so isn't
available. are there any other options to accomplish this?
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3965 [21:55:27] <jmcnaught> Azrael_-: there's a ttysnoop
package that you might be able to work into some sort of kludge
involving screen as a default shell, but upgrading to jessie to get
access to newer features is probably your best option
3966 [21:55:55] <markybob> or just ~/.bash_history to be honest
3967 [21:56:12] <markybob> if you don't trust your users that
much don't let them on
3968 [21:56:14] <jmcnaught> Azrael_-: or just don't give
access to people you don't trust, or limit their permissions
3969 [21:56:21] <tharkun> jmcnaught: My use case is simple, I have
a very small service window, I need to install a Very minimal system
and then put the rest of the pieces on top of it so that it works.
If I have to skeem through all the packages that Debian is
installing it takes me far more time than what I have available.
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3971 [21:56:36] <greycat> 15:00 Azrael_-> i want to enable
logging for root-ssh-sessions. [...]
3972 [21:56:39] <tharkun> jmcnaught: Thanks for the priorities
page interesting reading
3973 [21:56:46] <greycat> Apparently limiting their permissions is
not an option for him.
3974 [21:56:58] <Azrael_-> markybob / jmcnaught: i trust them, but
it's a 3rd party which requests access for further support and
i want to know what they do
3975 [21:57:06] <markybob> what's the point of logging root?
they can disable said logging
3976 [21:57:10] <markybob> this makes no sense
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3979 [21:58:03] <Azrael_-> they can, but if they do, then i know
they can't be trusted any more
3980 [21:58:17] <markybob> you won't know who
"they" are
3981 [21:58:30] <markybob> could've been some random guy on
the internet
3982 [21:59:06] <markybob> they can just delete some history and
not disable it. then you really won't know
3983 [21:59:07] <jmcnaught> tharkun: how space constrained are
you? you might find that fighting Debian's default selections
takes up more time than is worth it. You could also end up with
problems related to stuff that works on a standard Debian install
fails because a tool is missing in the minimal install you've
created.
3984 [21:59:23] <Iridos> tharkun, you were at /msg dpkg minimal
system ?
3985 [21:59:35] <Azrael_-> markybob: i know it isn't secure,
i just want to get some information what they do
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3987 [21:59:59] <frikinz> bash_history then
3988 [22:00:07] <markybob> yeah, like i said
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3990 [22:00:16] <Iridos> Azrael_-, if you trust them,
.bash_history should be enough... if you don't I'm not
sure what would
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3992 [22:00:57] <Azrael_-> hmmm, k
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3994 [22:01:56] <jmcnaught> Azrael_-: maybe instead of giving them
full root access you could give them limited sudo access to a few
commands?
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3996 [22:02:32] <Iridos> Azrael_-, something like that in .bashrc
helps:
HISTFILE="$HOME"/.bash_history_custom;HISTSIZE=1000000;HISTFILESIZE=20000000;HISTTIMEFORMAT="%Y/%m/%d
%T "; PROMPT_COMMAND="history -a"; shopt -s
histappend;
3997 [22:02:35] <greycat> Or give unlimited sudo, which logs for
you.
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4000 [22:03:45] <teraflops> Azrael_-: install a keylogger then
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4003 [22:04:31] <Iridos> in sshd?
4004 [22:04:36] <teraflops> it's your system, just say it so
at login
4005 [22:04:59] <frikinz> tpcdump :)
4006 [22:05:04] <frikinz> tcpdump*
4007 [22:05:14] <greycat> tcpdump is not very useful for encrypted
ssh stuff
4008 [22:05:14] <tharkun> jmcnaught: This machine needs to do only
one thing and do it fast and well, everything else is not needed.
4009 [22:05:15] <markybob> frikinz: would do nothing
4010 [22:05:30] <tharkun> It has been doing that for 7 years
4011 [22:05:56] <frikinz> markybob: why not? you can inject
private keys in tcpdump
4012 [22:06:07] <markybob> frikinz: okay
4013 [22:06:20] <tharkun> Iridos: dpkg answer is not what you
would expect ;P
4014 [22:06:41] <jmcnaught> tharkun: does the extra stuff
interfere, or just take up extra space? is that extra space worth
the time spent on the problem?
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4016 [22:07:10] <teraflops> Iridos: I wonder if it is ok
replaced-url
4017 [22:07:15] <Iridos> tharkun, err minimal install
4018 [22:07:29] <tharkun> Iridos: :)
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4020 [22:07:51] <Iridos> tharkun, I look up most factoids before I
give them out... but I often type and don't copy&paste
4021 [22:08:36] <tharkun> jmcnaught: Peace of mind. I've had
my unfairly large history of infiltrations due to unnecesary
software installed on an exposed server. The monetary tradeoff is
not worth it but my peace of mind is.
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4024 [22:09:05] <tharkun> Iridos: np it happens to everyone :)
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4028 [22:09:14] <Iridos> teraflops, that's client side... and
obviously not something that would be legal anywhere
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4032 [22:10:52] <teraflops> heh it works
4033 [22:11:24] <Iridos> not in any useful way
4034 [22:11:44] <Iridos> (except if you want to steal other
people's passwords)
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4036 [22:11:55] <Spine> Hi guys, my computer is blowing a lot of
cold wind in my face and I'm considering installing lm-sensors
and fancontrol to manage the turbulence. Do any of you run it? Any
issues?
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4038 [22:12:04] <teraflops> Iridos: yeah not useful since logs key
per key
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4040 [22:12:12] <awal1> I have made a lot of changes for xfce4; so
how to restore defaults? "dpkg --force-confnew xfce4" ?
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4045 [22:12:51] <awal1> I have asked dpkg about confnew and there
are options for apt & aptitude but i no understand the dpkg way
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4047 [22:13:42] <markybob> awal1: probably just rm -rf
~/.config/xfce4 BUT BACKUP FIRST
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4050 [22:14:40] <mtn> awal1: none of the package managers will
touch files in your home folder, which is where the configs are
4051 [22:14:54] <awal1> markybob, right, I have did that several
times (remove .xfce4 directory in home from tty, after closing xfce4
session) but wanted to understand the dpkg way :)
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4054 [22:15:14] <markybob> awal1: there is no way like mtn just
explained
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4057 [22:15:44] <jak2000> i installed debian on a pc, with cd
install, the network card is configured ok, the ping to google
answer perfectly and the ping to router answer perfectly,
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4060 [22:16:22] <awal1> mtn, ok,
4061 [22:16:24] <jak2000> but apt-get point to cdrom i think all
apt-get install mysql, apt-get install openjdk and others say
me" E: Unable to locate...... how to fix?
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4063 [22:16:54] <greycat> jak2000: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
file, commenting out the cd-rom lines
4064 [22:17:10] <markybob> jak2000: also those arent packages
4065 [22:17:10] <greycat> jak2000: /msg dpkg jessie sources.list
4066 [22:17:19] <Iridos> teraflops, one could set the loglevel to
DEBUG[1-9] in sshd_config... not sure what that does, but it
violates the user's privacy :P
4067 [22:17:20] <karlpinc> !tell jak2000 about sources.list
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4069 [22:18:08] <teraflops> Iridos: oh
4070 [22:18:13] <tharkun> awal1: xfce4 sets up its configuration
on a per user basis. I would generate a new user and start there.
4071 [22:18:36] <Iridos> (per manpage)
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4075 [22:20:17] <tharkun> jmcnaught, Iridos: Thanks if I
can't make a base install that suits me out of the box I'm
scripting my way out. Be calm I'll test on a VM before :)
(I'm crazy but not that much )
4076 [22:20:26] <jak2000> deb command not found :(
4077 [22:20:36] <jak2000> deb
replaced-url
4078 [22:20:38] <awal1> tharkun, oh, ok, good to know
4079 [22:20:41] <jak2000> deb command not found :(
4080 [22:20:44] <markybob> jak2000: it's not a command.
that's what you add to /etc/apt/sources.list
4081 [22:20:55] <jak2000> ok ok
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4085 [22:22:20] <Iridos> tharkun, well, emdebian is the next
smaller obvious choice...
4086 [22:22:36] <solarc> can anyone tell me what's the
content of the /etc/adjtime file? or how to generate it?
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4089 [22:22:47] <tharkun> Iridos: Do not tempt me to walk that
path. Lots of fun there :)
4090 [22:22:50] <greycat> It should be generated by ntpd, yes?
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4093 [22:23:35] <markybob> Iridos: tharkun well emdebian is done
4094 [22:23:40] <greycat> It doesn't look like a file I would
care to edit by hand.
4095 [22:24:09] <Iridos> done?
4096 [22:24:23] <markybob> Iridos: yes. support/development over
4097 [22:24:42] <tharkun> Since when ?
4098 [22:25:02] <markybob>
replaced-url
4099 [22:25:16] <karlpinc> Which is a shame, since the xz
compression seems to decompress really slowly with low ram.
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4107 [22:26:31] <solarc> greycat, it is to set if the hardware
clock is in local or utc
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4110 [22:27:04] <solarc> wiki just says to change that text but I
don't have the file and don't know if that's the
whole content of the file
4111 [22:27:07] <jak2000> aptitude update command not found :(
4112 [22:27:24] <markybob> jak2000: you need to be root
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4116 [22:27:55] <jak2000> i ma on #
4117 [22:28:06] <jak2000> i am on # remeber i installed with a net
cd
4118 [22:28:15] <greycat> solarc: mine has 3 lines, the first line
being 3 numbers (float, int, float), the second line being an int,
the third line being "UTC"
4119 [22:28:20] <markybob> jak2000: use apt-get update
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4122 [22:28:53] <greycat> solarc: I would not care to create such
a file without a man page documenting what it MEANS.
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4132 [22:30:55] <karlpinc> (Humm. This does not seem to be
documented anywhere but both bind and nsd seem to use the same data
structure for zone files....)
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4134 [22:31:41] <Iridos> dpkg, emdebian =~ s/oftc.net/oftc.net. As
of July 2014, updates to Emdebian distributions ceased, there will
be no further stable releases/
4135 [22:31:42] <dpkg> OK, Iridos
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4138 [22:32:13] <solarc> greycat, I only see a man for the c
adjtime function, not the file
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4140 [22:32:40] <frikinz> if [ -w /etc ] && [ ! -f
/etc/adjtime ] && [ ! -e /etc/adjtime ]; then; printf
"0.0 0 0.0\n0\nUTC\n" > /etc/adjtime; fi <<<
/etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
4141 [22:32:41] <karlpinc> solarc: The file is ment to be created
by (I think) ntp.
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4146 [22:34:44] <greycat> frikinz: makes one wonder why his system
never executed that
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4152 [22:35:50] <solarc> thanks karlpinc, greycat I'll check
that script
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4154 [22:36:35] <jak2000> markybob thanks
4155 [22:36:42] <jak2000> i want install openjdk v8
4156 [22:36:49] <jak2000> is good follow these steps:
replaced-url
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4163 [22:38:15] <markybob> jak2000: stop
4164 [22:38:24] <karlpinc> jak2000: No. Get it from backports.
4165 [22:38:25] <markybob> jak2000: don't ever follow
ppa/ubuntu crap in debian
4166 [22:38:31] <markybob> !tell jak2000 about dontbreakdebian
4167 [22:38:38] <karlpinc> !tell jak2000 about backports
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4169 [22:39:54] <karlpinc> jak2000: (And what markybob said.)
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4176 [22:41:28] <jak2000> ok
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4178 [22:41:53] <jak2000> then how to install openjdk8?
4179 [22:42:07] <tharkun> jmcnaught, Iridos: figured the way to
avoid so many unnecesary stuff. The order which you install stuff is
indeed important. It did not used to be. It is now.
4180 [22:42:18] <karlpinc> jak2000: Get it from backports, per the
message the bot sent you.
4181 [22:42:24] <jak2000> ok
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4183 [22:42:42] <greycat> ,v openjdk-8-jre
4184 [22:42:44] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 8u72-b15-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 8u72-b15-4; sid:
8u77-b03-3
4185 [22:42:49] <markybob> jak2000:
backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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4187 [22:43:10] <karlpinc> greycat: (I checked. :-)
4188 [22:43:15] <greycat> after setting up the sources and
updating, apt-get -t jessie-backports install openjdk-8-jre
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4191 [22:43:37] <fred1807> when I plug a usb hd that is formated
as HFS+ (apple's) Debian automont it as RO. I know how to
umount and manually mount it rw with command (mount -o
remount,rw,force /dev /mntpoint) . But how do I change the automatic
behavior to make it RW ?
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4194 [22:44:28] <jak2000> greycat:
replaced-url
4195 [22:44:31] <jak2000> its ok?
4196 [22:44:36] <jak2000> markybob: ok
4197 [22:44:50] <greycat> I am not going to check some random URL.
Follow the jessie-backports procedure.
4198 [22:45:04] <markybob> jak2000: we've given you
instructions. read them.
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4201 [22:45:30] <jak2000> doen added the list: deb
replaced-url
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4203 [22:46:11] <markybob> jak2000: now finish off with what
greycat typed out
4204 [22:46:26] <greycat> assuming he already did the apt-get
update
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4209 [22:47:15] <jak2000> mext apt-get -t jessie-backports install
openjdk-8-jre
4210 [22:47:21] <jak2000> installing
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4212 [22:47:27] <jak2000> checking java version: java -v
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4219 [22:49:29] <greycat> Wow, that's hilarious. "java
-v", "java --version" both fail with a frightening
"could not create java virtual machine" message. java
-version works.
4220 [22:49:51] <greycat> Java. Just when you thought you had
already seen bad.
4221 [22:50:08] <jak2000> ok
4222 [22:50:09] <jak2000> :)
4223 [22:50:10] <markybob> (tm)
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4225 [22:50:47] <Iridos> greycat, that's news???
4226 [22:50:57] <greycat> (Not "usage error" or "I
don't know from -v" but "could not create Java
Virtual Machine". Really?)
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4230 [22:52:34] <Iridos> My map says: Java. Here Be Dragons.
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4235 [22:53:34] <karlpinc> Iridos: (You need a little footnote
about the dragon's owners being greeedy creepy power-mongers.)
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4239 [22:54:38] <jak2000> done
4240 [22:54:41] <jak2000> now for install tomcat?
4241 [22:55:00] <jak2000> where search the packages after: apt-get
-t jessie-backports install <tomcat> ?
4242 [22:55:09] <karlpinc> jak2000: Why not install the debian
tomcat package?
4243 [22:55:44] <jak2000> yes i undrrstand
4244 [22:55:50] <jak2000> but how to know the package name
4245 [22:55:50] <teraflops> Mine says: unrecognized option and
then it says it cannot... whatever. Try catch :p
4246 [22:55:57] <greycat> jessie has tomcat8 and tomcat7, not that
I know anything about them
4247 [22:56:08] <karlpinc> !tell jak2000 about search
4248 [22:56:15] * greycat knows how to run "apt-cache search
tomcat" though
4249 [22:56:45] <jak2000> ok
4250 [22:57:18] <l0ll1p0p> jak2000: also grep is good commad to
learn since apt-cache provides lot of information
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4253 [22:57:38] <markybob> jak2000: just make it tomcat8 and that
statement you had should work
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4255 [22:58:20] <jak2000> yes
4256 [22:58:21] <jak2000> done
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4261 [23:01:20] <jak2000> ow to know where is installed tomcat? in
wich directory?
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4264 [23:01:45] <markybob> jak2000: dpkg -L packagename
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4267 [23:02:13] <karlpinc> jak2000: Tomcat's a server. It
runs. If you want to know where it's files are, they are
usually where tomcat keeps them. If debian does something different,
see the readme.debian.
4268 [23:02:22] <karlpinc> !tell jak2000 about readme.debian
4269 [23:02:22] <markybob> smoke break
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4273 [23:03:45] <jak2000> ok
4274 [23:03:49] <karlpinc> jak2000: The "dpkg -L ..."
will tell you what man pages or other documentation exists. The docs
will describe how to use the program. "man tomcat" (Or
something like that, depending on the name of the man page.)
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4285 [23:05:08] <jak2000> man tomcat no manual entry for tomcat
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4287 [23:05:13] <jak2000> reading and reading
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4290 [23:05:29] <greycat> Also look at all the files in
/usr/share/doc/tomcat8/
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4292 [23:05:58] <greycat> Sometimes it's easier to start
there, than with the output of dpkg -L
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4296 [23:08:19] <fred1807> I am searching google for how to
automount a usb hfs+ drive in RW, but I can only find guides related
to the fstab file. My usb is not always conencted, and I want to
make it work for any usb hfs+ drive I connect, doesnt matter the UID
4297 [23:08:21] <karlpinc> jak2000: Usually you'd try
"man -k tomcat" to search for man pages. Rather than look
at all the files installed as reported by dpkg -L. (But docs _can_
be in other formats, like info pages.)
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4300 [23:09:08] <karlpinc> fred1807: Take a look at the usbmount
package.
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4307 [23:13:11] <greycat> Or if the tomcat server process has some
name other than "tomcat" (like I dunno, maybe
"tomcatd") you can try man-ing that.
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4310 [23:13:35] <greycat> I don't even know if tomcat *has* a
server process, or if it's a "module" that you call
through some black magic.
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4315 [23:14:30] <Iridos> usbmount has a configurable list of
supported mountable filesystems... but it's a global mount
thing
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4323 [23:16:17] <Iridos> fred1807, fstab solutions can also allow
the user mounting/umounting, btw
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4326 [23:17:48] <karlpinc> I guess in theory you could also manage
automounting usb devices with autofs. That seems overkill.
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4337 [23:19:51] <Valdebrick> running as root, I'm getting
"permission denied on key 'kernel.core_pattern'"
when I do "sysctl -w kernel.core_pattern=core" anyone know
why that would be?
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4347 [23:22:54] <frikinz> running on a vps?
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4368 [23:30:30] <aricz> Hi, I'm still struggling with
Bluetooth. I just cut'n'pasted some messages from dmesg
replaced-url
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4372 [23:31:16] <aricz> I followed this guide earlier this day
replaced-url
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4388 [23:36:49] <teraflops> aricz: do you have installed
firmware-atheros?
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4392 [23:37:25] <aricz> *facepalm*
4393 [23:37:44] <aricz> my oh my.. ok, I'll try a reboot..
let me blush while power is off
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4402 [23:41:08] <aricz> guess I didn't have to reboot
either.. haha..
4403 [23:41:40] <aricz> well, thanks whoever mentioned the
obvious.. of all the guides I read, and all the questions I've
asked both here and on #linux.. all day..
4404 [23:41:57] <aricz> bluetooth is now working
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4420 [23:46:54] <aricz> and it was all about 'apt-get install
firmware-atheros' .. :D okidok, enough emo.. but thanks!
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4451 [23:54:04] <warsoul> best shell provider?
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4469 [23:58:24] <upp> can any one help with this error:
couldn't write to file '/home/upp/.config/autostart'
(Bad file descriptor)
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