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151[01:12:28] <b0t> Hello, how to restore complety /etc/mail/, i
need delete this folder and reinstall sendmail?
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152[01:12:42] <awal1> I wonder if if lxde/task-dekstop-lxde will
be /should be removed from debian since lxqt is now in sid/stretch
and soon a task-desktop-lxqt...
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155[01:13:28] <awal1> lxqt is nicer and well worked/designed
then lxde :P
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159[01:15:30] <jmcnaught> b0t: are you trying to get back to the
default/original conf files that were installed by the packages?
"/msg dpkg confnew" has some info about that
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160[01:15:45] <jmcnaught> b0t: you might also want to check out
etckeeper
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162[01:16:29] <b0t> "/msg dpkg confnew
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163[01:16:37] <b0t> Thanks
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172[01:20:53] <b0t> I try apt-get --reinstall install mail
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174[01:21:16] <b0t> I try apt-get --reinstall install sendmail,
but the sendmail.mc no restore to original
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176[01:21:38] <abrotman> did you read what the bot told you?
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177[01:21:43] <b0t> Still the same
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178[01:21:47] <RippyDippy> Ive located my
intel_brightness/brightness, what generally the best way to set it
up for i3 keybinds
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179[01:22:02] <abrotman> b0t: read what the bot told you
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182[01:22:33] <awal1> b0t, I dont really now if --reinstall X
package helps, not only in your case but in general
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184[01:22:47] <abrotman> the bot should have given explicit
instructions that were not followed
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188[01:24:21] <b0t> Ok, i trying aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall sendmail , but
not change nothing
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196[01:25:36] <awal1> when X package is removed and purged
reinstalling it have sense but reinstalling an existent/configured
one (?); maybe I'm wrong :)
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199[01:26:06] <abrotman> b0t: do you even know which package
owns that file?
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202[01:27:07] <b0t> Sendmail.mc is a sendmail package file
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205[01:27:46] <b0t> I triying apt-get --purge remove sendmail
and aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew"
reinstall sendmail, but the file still the same
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206[01:27:55] <b0t> I cant send emails
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209[01:29:04] <abrotman> judd: file sendmail.mc
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210[01:29:09] <judd> Search for sendmail.mc in jessie/amd64:
ifgate: usr/share/doc/ifgate/examples/sendmail.mc; sendmail-cf:
usr/share/sendmail/cf/debian/sendmail.mc
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211[01:29:14] <abrotman> yeah, you'd be wrong
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216[01:31:26] <b0t> Ok i replace the file, thanks
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265[01:51:57] <npo> Hey, i'm trying to build lemonbar but
cc is telling me that xcb/xinerama.h doesn't exist (it
doesn't). but libxcb-xinerama0, libxinerama-dev, libxcb-dev,
etc, all the related packages that this header file would be in are
all installed. apt keeps telling me that they're at the latest
version, so this header must be in a different place. does anyone
know what i need to install to get the header so i can install
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266[01:52:03] <npo> this?
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269[01:52:52] <bazhang> ,v lemonbar
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270[01:52:53] <judd> No package named 'lemonbar' was
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272[01:53:08] <npo> you have to build it from the repo
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273[01:53:26] <bazhang> what is lemonbar exactly
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274[01:53:40] <npo> it's a very lightweight/slick status
bar for window managers
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276[01:55:38] <cafuego> npo: apt-file will let you search for
specific files
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277[01:55:58] <cafuego> npo: Not sure if auto-apt is still a
thing, but that wraps apt-file to install whatever is needed during
the build process.
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284[01:57:43] <npo> cafuego: awesome, thanks a lot! apt-file
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381[02:44:39] <warsoul> hello
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382[02:44:47] <warsoul> whats the command to update in debian?
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383[02:44:54] <abrotman> update what?
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384[02:45:08] <abrotman> warsoul: ?
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385[02:45:16] <warsoul> has been a long time i dont use it
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386[02:45:22] <warsoul> i want to update
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387[02:45:37] <abrotman> update what? the packges? the kernel?
the PCI database? Flash? Your BIOS?
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388[02:45:47] <abrotman> to the next version?
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391[02:45:52] <warsoul> i want to update everything
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392[02:46:21] <markybob> warsoul: you update the list of
packages with sudo apt-get update. you then upgrade the packages
with sudo apt-get upgrade. unless you want to go to a new release.
then you read the docs and edit sources.list
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395[02:46:58] <warsoul> is there a new release?
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396[02:47:12] <markybob> warsoul: i don't know what
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398[02:47:41] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, check your release with
lsb_release -a
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401[02:48:20] <warsoul> is not in the sudoers file. This
incident will be reported.
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402[02:48:34] <abrotman> you don't need sudo
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403[02:48:36] <markybob> warsoul: do you have the root password?
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404[02:48:44] <abrotman> you can run lsb_release -a as a user
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405[02:48:48] <warsoul> markybob how can i check what i have
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406[02:48:54] <abrotman> you can run lsb_release -a as a user
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407[02:48:55] <warsoul> yes i have the root passwd
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408[02:49:14] <abrotman> you can run lsb_release -a as a user
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409[02:49:28] <warsoul> how?
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410[02:49:38] <abrotman> in a terminal, like any other command
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412[02:49:46] <abrotman> how were you going to use it with sudo?
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413[02:49:52] <warsoul> whats the command
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415[02:50:05] <TomTomTosch> lsb_release -a
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416[02:50:17] * abrotman slides a desk aronud the channel
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417[02:50:35] <warsoul> Distributor ID: Debian
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418[02:50:36] <warsoul> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.1
(jessie)
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419[02:50:36] <warsoul> Release: 8.1
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420[02:50:36] <warsoul> Codename: jessie
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423[02:51:03] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, the release would have been
enough :P
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424[02:51:21] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, you need to update and
upgrade like markybob said.
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425[02:51:23] <markybob> warsoul: so do what i said. apt-get
update && apt-get upgrade as root (since you don't have
sudo)
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426[02:51:56] <warsoul> ok
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427[02:51:57] <TomTomTosch> warsoul, your release will be 8.4
afterwards.
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429[02:52:11] <warsoul> how do i log in as root
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430[02:52:20] <TomTomTosch> su
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431[02:53:17] <warsoul> thanks guys
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432[02:53:48] <abrotman> he'll likely need a dist-upgrade
in there also, some will probably be held back
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434[02:55:27] <markybob> maybe. one step at a time. i'm
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441[03:01:28] <warsoul> should i do dist-upgrade?
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442[03:01:46] <markybob> warsoul: did upgrade leave packages
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443[03:02:00] <warsoul> yes
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444[03:02:14] <markybob> warsoul: go to paste.debian.net and
paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please
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452[03:07:52] <warsoul> /etc/apt/sources.list: Not a directory
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453[03:08:08] <markybob> warsoul: it's not. it's a
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454[03:08:20] <warsoul> ok
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459[03:10:29] <warsoul> markybob
replaced-url
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461[03:10:54] <markybob> warsoul: yes that looks fine. do a
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462[03:11:00] <warsoul> ok
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463[03:11:02] <warsoul> thanks
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464[03:11:14] <dvs> markybob, delete line 7?
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466[03:11:45] <markybob> dvs: i would but it doesn't really
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467[03:11:56] <dvs> heh
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472[03:14:26] <warsoul> dist-upgrade
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473[03:14:28] <warsoul> bash: dist-upgrade: command not found
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475[03:14:50] <markybob> warsoul: no. it's apt-get
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476[03:15:19] <warsoul> done
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485[03:19:19] <awal1> !laugh at warsoul
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486[03:19:19] <dpkg> HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! warsoul just cracks me up!
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487[03:19:56] <TomTomTosch> not everyone is an admin.
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488[03:20:12] <awal1> thats true
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489[03:20:44] <awal1> I just like dpkg answers :)
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494[03:22:50] <dpkg> HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! awall just cracks me up!
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498[03:25:53] <awal1> warsoul, you can play with dpkg, or ask
him about debian system stuff. just run /msg dpkg whatyouwant
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499[03:26:14] <warsoul> thank you awal1
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500[03:26:59] <Revian1> Hmm.. Window Maker is quite nice.
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503[03:28:19] <henjl> ahh it's a wonderful day
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504[03:28:48] <awal1> Revian1, it would be nicer if it have
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506[03:29:22] <Revian1> awal1: Yes, that would be a nice feature
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507[03:29:58] <Revian1> I was running Mint, and today I found a
live cd called WMlive-Debian.
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508[03:30:17] <awal1> no idea
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510[03:30:31] <Revian1> The debian devs deserve a medal, this
thing is rock-solid
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514[03:31:00] <awal1> is it an official debian live image?
Revian1
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516[03:31:07] <Revian1> awal1: It's basically Debian Jessie
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517[03:31:16] <Revian1> I doubt it's official
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519[03:31:35] <awal1> not official for sure...
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526[03:34:45] <Revian1> That's the one, it's based on
Debian Jessie
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628[04:48:28] <duser> recently i do apt-get update/ upgrade
pkgs. but my gnome terminal cursor no long blinks, that increases
difficulty in finding the current pos in terminal. any way to enable
cursor blink again?
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629[04:48:44] <duser> the command to launch terminal is
`gnome-terminal` only.
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635[04:50:40] <liubingxu> hello
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644[04:57:21] <bkpark> duser: this post is describing something
similar to what you are seeing.
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645[04:57:39] <bkpark> does "setterm -cursor on" work
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664[05:08:02] <duser> bkpark: thanks. That works!
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717[05:35:49] <b0t> Hello, i cant apt-get --purge remove
sendmail-base
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718[05:36:18] <b0t> Im receive a error -> dpkg: error
processing sendmail-base (--purge):
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723[05:37:57] <jmcnaught> b0t: can you put the command and
complete output on
replaced-url
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725[05:38:54] <b0t> ->
replaced-url
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726[05:39:06] <b0t> Check
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729[05:41:51] <jmcnaught> b0t: in the future please use the
debian paste site linked to :) are there any new files in that
/usr/share/bug/sendmail-cf directory? it looks like it's also
complaining that the users it would delete are already gone, did you
remove them yourself earlier?
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730[05:42:00] <rommel092079> good day. I have a domain name. How
can I create a subdomain like mail.yahoo.com ?
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731[05:42:02] <b0t> Ok
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732[05:42:30] <nevyn> rommel092079: is the domain name you have
yahoo.com? if not you can't
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733[05:42:45] <rommel092079> no. just an example
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734[05:43:04] <jmcnaught> rommel092079: if you host your own
DNS, you add the subdomain in a zone file, at least with bind9. If
you have some company hosting your DNS, you do it on their control
panel
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736[05:43:05] <rommel092079> like i have rsebrokerage.com
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738[05:43:12] <b0t> I dont know jmcnaught, i cant use rm -R with
the directory?
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739[05:43:29] <rommel092079> i see.
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740[05:44:05] <jmcnaught> b0t: you don't want to see
what's in there first?
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741[05:44:52] <jmcnaught> b0t: is the package still listed when
you run "aptitude search ~c" ?
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743[05:45:28] <b0t> Yes -> cp sendmail-base
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744[05:45:32] <jmcnaught> b0t: did you manually delete the smmta
and smmsp users?
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745[05:45:59] <b0t> No, i dont
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749[05:48:21] <jmcnaught> b0t: i'm not very familiar with
sendmail-base, but there will be a postrm script at
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-base.postrm, this is the script that
your system is trying to run to purge the package. You can read it
to see what it's trying to do.
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756[05:52:32] <b0t> I need delete the file manually?
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762[05:55:22] <jmcnaught> b0t: you might end up needing to do
that. curiously apt-file is telling me that the directory
/usr/share/bug/sendmail-cf is owned by the sendmail-cf package, not
sendmail-base.
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767[05:55:50] <jmcnaught> b0t: what does "apt-policy
sendmail-cf sendmail-base" say?
replaced-url
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769[05:56:46] <b0t> nice, im remove sendmail-cf and after remove
sendmail-base and work
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770[05:56:48] <b0t> Thanks
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772[05:57:22] <b0t> Apt-policy: command not found
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774[05:57:59] <markybob> b0t: it's apt-cache policy
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775[05:58:23] <jmcnaught> heh sorry
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776[05:58:53] <markybob> jmcnaught: we all need beer time ;)
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780[05:59:47] <b0t>
replaced-url
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788[06:01:24] <b0t> How to change the default email on my
system?
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790[06:01:57] <b0t> I dont know to use SSMTP or sendmail
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791[06:02:09] <jmcnaught> b0t: thanks. i see now you're on
wheezy which is why your postrm script is different than the one i
was looking at.
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792[06:02:35] <b0t> Is a bug
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793[06:02:54] <jmcnaught> b0t: you could try reinstalling the
package, and then purging it again. this should make it so
everything that the postrm script wants to remove during the purge
is there to delete.
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795[06:03:36] <b0t> ? sendmail-base?
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796[06:03:39] <jmcnaught> b0t: otherwise you could read the
script, make sure all the stuff it removes is actually gone, and
then add "exit 0" to the top of it. this is a dirty hack,
but it will let the purge complete.
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797[06:03:44] <b0t> Or -cf
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798[06:04:04] <jmcnaught> b0t: according to your earlier paste
it's sendmail-base that you have trouble purging
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800[06:04:19] <b0t> Ok
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801[06:04:20] <jmcnaught> b0t: did you look at
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-base.postrm ?
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803[06:04:44] <b0t> No such file....
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806[06:06:28] <jmcnaught> b0t: any similarly named files? ls
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail*
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808[06:06:50] <b0t> Ls: cannot access
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail*: No such file or directory
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810[06:07:17] <b0t> I think to sendmail if remove all
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812[06:08:32] <jmcnaught> b0t: you don't have a
/var/lib/dpkg/info directory on your system?
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816[06:09:06] <b0t> Ah yes, one moment
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818[06:09:44] <b0t> Yes but not appear sendmail
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819[06:09:47] <jmcnaught> b0t: okay, but there are no files
starting with "sendmail" in there? does "aptitude
search ~c" still list sendmail?
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820[06:10:17] <b0t> Sed and sensible, sendmail not
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821[06:10:17] <b0t> No
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823[06:10:29] <b0t> Nope
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825[06:10:59] <b0t> Im delete with this answer
replaced-url
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826[06:11:12] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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827[06:11:15] <jmcnaught> b0t: i guess you did something then.
if the aptitude search doesn't list sendmail anymore it's
gone
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828[06:11:20] <b0t> "It should work if you remove (no need
to purge) sendmail-cf first."
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830[06:11:56] <b0t> Yes, its gone
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831[06:12:04] <b0t> Thanks
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832[06:12:17] <jmcnaught> b0t: thanks for sharing the steps you
were doing as i helped you troubleshoot
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835[06:12:41] <b0t> U a welc
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837[06:13:40] <b0t> Ok, now i need use my hostgator email in my
vps
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839[06:14:08] <b0t> Im triying to install sendmail again
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842[06:15:00] <jmcnaught> b0t: if you only need your VPS to send
mails not receive them, and you have a hostgator mail server you can
relay mail through, you should consider a simpler alternative to
sendmail like ssmtp, msmtp-mta or another "null client"
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843[06:15:07] <b0t> What is best postmail or postfix?
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845[06:16:04] <b0t> Ok i try ssmtp
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857[06:30:17] <b0t> Nice, work fine on ssmtp, thanks jmcnaught
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861[06:32:42] <mms_> if I have installed postfix for mail relay
and for lockfile if i install procmail will it be issue /
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862[06:32:52] <simonlnu> no
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863[06:33:00] <mms_> I mean we have now two mail apps
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865[06:33:21] <mms_> as such postfix service I run on boot
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866[06:33:28] <simonlnu> one is a MTA, the other is a MUA or MDA
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867[06:33:30] <mms_> for procmail is there going to be similar
service ?
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868[06:33:34] <simonlnu> !mta
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869[06:33:34] <dpkg> A Message/Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is a
program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often
using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/sbin/sendmail
and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all
MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>,
<nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which
mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>.
replaced-url
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870[06:33:44] <simonlnu> !mua
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871[06:33:44] <dpkg> methinks mua is a Mail User Agent, in other
words <mailx>, <mutt>, <balsa>, <alpine>,
<elm>, <icedove> (thunderbird), <kmail>,
<evolution>, or any other mail client program.
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872[06:33:54] <simonlnu> mda
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873[06:34:03] <simonlnu> mail delivery agent
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874[06:34:11] <simonlnu> it gets handed mail from the mta
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875[06:34:38] <mms_> ok so procmail gives you mailx command and
postfix does the actual communication ?
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876[06:34:58] <simonlnu> no. postfix -> procmail -> mailx
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877[06:35:12] <simonlnu> mailx -> postfix (to send)
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878[06:35:22] <mms_> correct thats what I meant
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880[06:35:46] <mms_> mailx is from procmail package basically
mail client we use on command line
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881[06:36:06] <mms_> and postfix is from postfix package which
we run as service daemon process
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882[06:36:14] <mms_> simonlnu: ya ?
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884[06:36:23] <mms_> so I will then go ahead and install it
without fear
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887[06:36:30] <simonlnu> sec
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888[06:36:48] <mms_> simonlnu: but I already have mailx command
I guess on system
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889[06:37:23] <mms_> simonlnu: then what does procmail give ? I
mean which mail command line client ?
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891[06:37:46] <mms_> looks like it gives procmail command ?
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894[06:37:54] <mms_> which is similar to mailx ?
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895[06:38:30] <mms_> simonlnu: ya ?
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897[06:39:41] <mms_> actually I came to this package in search
of lockfile
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899[06:39:54] <mms_> I want to serialize writing to a file from
shell script
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903[06:40:21] <jmcnaught> mms_: mailx is not provided by
procmail. "aptitude search ~Pmailx" will list the packages
that provide mailx (which is a virtual package)
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904[06:40:34] <mms_> jmcnaught: hi. got that.
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905[06:40:50] <Yehai> this channel logged?
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906[06:41:24] <mms_> so to serialize writing to file from shell
script I am exploring and came across lockfile / procmail package.
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907[06:41:34] <mms_> is there simpler option than it ?
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909[06:42:14] <Yehai> huh?
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911[06:42:22] <mms_> I see fcntl
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912[06:42:27] <jmcnaught> mms_: i don't see where email is
part of this problem
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913[06:42:34] <jmcnaught> Yehai: yes, see the topic
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914[06:43:03] <Yehai> yes
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915[06:43:10] <mms_> jmcnaught: I am not doing email here but
since I thought procmail is for mailing and i already having postfix
and mailx I was suspecting it will interfere
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917[06:43:56] <mms_> jmcnaught: so now to actual query is i am
exploring serialize writes to file from shell script
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918[06:44:11] <jmcnaught> mms_: i doubt you need procmail in
order to write to a file from a script, but i don't know what
you mean by serialize
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922[06:44:43] <jmcnaught> mms_: do you mean only one process
gets to write to the file at a time?
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925[06:44:47] <mms_> jmcnaught: multiple process concurrent
writes to file I want to synchronize/serialize/lock etc
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927[06:44:51] <mms_> jmcnaught: yes
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928[06:45:06] <k_sze[work]> Is it possible to configure, in a
script, the MTU of a network interface depending on what network
it's on? e.g. I have a device that I bring back and forth
between two networks. But the DHCP servers on those networks suck
and they can't push option 26 (the MTU option). I need my
device to use jumbo frames when it's on one network and no
jumbo frames when it's on the other network. Is that possible?
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931[06:45:34] <Yehai> bazhang: ppl hate you, watch when you go
out
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932[06:45:59] <jmcnaught> mms_: oh, i got confused by your use
of the word serialize, not familiar with that use
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933[06:46:13] <mms_> there is another flock command flock -x
local-lock-file echo 'a b c'
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935[06:46:33] <mms_> it can also grab exclusive lock before
doing that echo command
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936[06:47:32] <TomTomTosch> mms_ if you want to use semaphores
in bash you shoud look into lockfile.
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937[06:47:39] <Yehai> hahhh, Butt3rfly butt files?
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938[06:48:11] <jmcnaught> Yehai: this is a tech support channel.
Do you need help with Debian?
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943[06:50:27] <simonlnu> mms_: no it's not in procmail
package
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945[06:50:52] <simonlnu> mms_: it's more often used as a
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947[06:51:14] <simonlnu> mms_: procmail and mailx are 2 totally
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956[06:52:44] <mms_> simonlnu: I read lockfile is in procmail
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958[06:53:08] <jmcnaught> lockfile is in the procmail package,
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960[06:54:14] <jmcnaught> mms_: procmail is safe to install, it
shouldn't interfere with postfix unless you configure postfix
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968[06:59:47] <TomTomTosch> mms_ flock works too. check what
syntax you like better.
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978[07:04:27] <rommel092079> good day guys. can somebody assist
me on setting up mx record on dot.tk
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980[07:05:01] <svetlana> Hi. Please do not use this service, it
is a scam, they redirect domains to an ad fest out of the blue. I
was told freedns works in a more reliable way.
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986[07:08:15] <rommel092079> anyone ?
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993[07:10:01] <simonlnu> freedns is also legit...
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995[07:10:35] <svetlana> I haven't seen them redirect
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997[07:11:09] <simonlnu> scams are never around for long
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999[07:11:29] <simonlnu> by definition they're "fly by
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1002[07:12:26] <simonlnu> xserver-xorg-legacy interferes with
bbswtich. on another note.
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1003[07:12:32] <simonlnu> switch*
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1034[07:23:43] <MiningInc> can I get /turn on syntax highlighting
from within VIM. i.e. can I enable syntax highlighting ()for
python() from command mode?
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1042[07:28:33] <grawity> :syn on
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1043[07:28:38] <grawity> :set ft=python
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1057[07:34:56] <ryouma> my system froze. mouse would not move.
the display was static. i had to reboot. there is a string of ^@
characters (null characters maybe) in both syslog and messages where
i'm guessing the error occurred. a few lines before there is
this line, which seems maybe relevant? "Apr 4 21:52:27 mybox
kernel: [189404.724004] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP ".
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1059[07:35:18] <ryouma> please tell me what i can do to provide
information useful to debug this
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1066[07:37:36] <simonlnu> file a bug for the kernel, using
reportbug. copy/paste the entire oops msg to the report.
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1072[07:39:33] <ryouma> simonlnu: so this is likely totally a
software bug? and the oops i should paste is "Apr 4 21:52:27
mybox kernel: [189404.724004] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP"? i'm
wondering if this box is creaking and groaning, or if it's just
the recent jessie upgrade.
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1073[07:40:05] <simonlnu> the oops is much bigger/longer than
that (usually)
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1074[07:40:20] <simonlnu> i'd check the hardware first
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1076[07:40:42] <simonlnu> like several pages
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1077[07:41:02] <MiningInc> grawity thanks a ton.
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1079[07:41:17] <ryouma> simonlnu: how does one check hardware?
smartctl seems ok
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1081[07:41:54] <simonlnu> run some tests, check plugs/cables,
etc.
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1082[07:41:55] <ryouma> is the oops following or preceding the
line i sent?
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1085[07:43:21] <simonlnu> after. you'll see a bunch of hex
numbers (lines of text of kernel mem addresses and kernel functions
and stuff). to the uninitiated eye it looks like gibberish
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1089[07:44:23] <simonlnu> if you don't see anything like
that, it probably didn't have time to completely write the oops
msg to /dev/log (syslog)
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1091[07:44:56] <ryouma> when will i know when this oops ends?
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1092[07:45:00] <ryouma> at the null characters?
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1093[07:45:12] <simonlnu> it's pretty darn obvious
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1094[07:45:22] <ryouma> i don't know when it started
rebooting
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1095[07:45:28] <simonlnu> those nulls tell me it's likely
not all of it got copied
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1097[07:45:42] <simonlnu> the kernel timestamp tells you when it
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1099[07:45:57] <ryouma> perhaps this? "Apr 4 21:52:27 mybox
kernel: [189404.853553] ---[ end trace 5ade8334b14da837 ]---"
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1100[07:46:00] <simonlnu> look for the 000.XXXXXXX marks
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1101[07:46:07] <simonlnu> yes, that's it
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1102[07:46:16] <ryouma> the nuls are after that
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1103[07:46:37] <simonlnu> (i could be wrong about it not getting
all of it)
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1106[07:46:53] <ryouma> i don't see anything that says
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1110[07:47:12] <simonlnu> no, the timestamp looks like kernel:
[189404.853553]
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1113[07:47:31] <simonlnu> that's time since boot
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1114[07:47:36] <ryouma> it mentions my radeon. i wonder if that
is related or just part of its inventory.
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1115[07:47:46] <simonlnu> (in seconds and microseconds)
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1116[07:48:00] <ryouma> oh ok so when it is 0 then it is
rebooting?
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1117[07:48:12] <simonlnu> it's starting a new boot phase
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1118[07:48:27] <simonlnu> when the kernel is first active
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1119[07:48:58] <ryouma> well, i'll report it i guess. maybe
somebody will know whether it's hardware or just the kernel.
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1120[07:49:01] <simonlnu> you'll see a bunch of PCI stuff,
ACPI, PNP, etc. -- and that's later.
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1121[07:49:27] <ryouma> it all looks like gibberish to me :)
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1122[07:49:41] * simonlnu is one of those odd people that likes looking
at that sort of thing...
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1124[07:50:00] <ryouma> i just happened to have heard of an oops
long ago so i searched for it and it was there after searching for
error and warning
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1125[07:50:33] <scream> "He who fights with monsters should
be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long
into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."
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1128[07:51:38] <scream> that's Nietzsche. It's about
reading kernel stack traces ;)
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1129[07:51:51] <simonlnu> haha
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1130[07:51:53] <ryouma> that philosopher was one mean coder i
hear
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1131[07:52:10] <simonlnu> OT alert:
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1132[07:52:54] <simonlnu> i don't like a lot of what he
said, he's a nihilist, but he did have some good ones once in a
while </OT>
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1245[08:49:22] <alfatau> hello all. I've 2 copies of the
same data onto 2 different machines. data are incremental snapshots
based on hard-links. I need to check the consistence between the 2
copies through a network connection. I tried using "rsync
--checksum --dry-run" but the folder contains millions of
files, due to multple hard-links on the same files and so the time
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1246[08:49:23] <alfatau> needed to complete the check is
unacceptable. Do you know some better way to do this check?
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1256[08:51:17] <themill> alfatau: you could just use some
invocation of find -type f -exec md5sum … at each end and
diff them; if that level of consistency is important (these are
backups?) then a backup tool that maintains and can test checksums
(like obnam) would be better
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1268[08:56:55] <Arch> testing testing 1..2..3..
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1269[08:57:06] <Arch> is this thing on..
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1270[08:57:23] <Arch> this red team one.
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1271[08:57:37] <Arch> over do you copy:)
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1272[08:57:44] <Arch> out.
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1273[08:57:58] <colo-work> *crickets*
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1276[08:58:28] <Arch> roger that.
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1278[08:59:53] <henjl> [yo]
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1284[09:01:13] <alfatau> themill: yes, they're backups. The
backup tool I'm using is rsync and afaik it's algorithm
should check consistence... However this is a task that I need to do
after having copied data from an old server.
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1290[09:04:25] <themill> checking a backup is about making sure
that the files in the backup are *still* OK and is the job of the
backup tool; rsync is only the tool that was used to copy the files
initially. (A lack of any later validation of the backup is the main
weakness of backup tools like rsync/rsnapshot etc)
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1293[09:05:21] <Arch> check check... still ok
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1502[10:46:10] <pingfloyd> themill: there's a way to do
verify with rsync though
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1510[10:48:23] <pingfloyd> themill: run it a second time adding
the options -cn (this works best if backing up from a snapshot of
course)
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1536[11:04:32] <twied> hey folks, whom do i report a bug in the
installer to?
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1553[11:16:11] <Iridos> twied, you can file installer bugs
against the debian-installer pseudopackage.
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1554[11:16:31] <twied> thanks
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1561[11:18:18] <Iridos> pingfloyd, hm, that's a good idea
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1566[11:19:07] <Arch>
replaced-url
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1567[11:19:26] <Iridos> pingfloyd, maybe... rsync already checks
for consistency after copying
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1571[11:21:26] <Iridos> would be nice if it could save the
checksums somewhere as it's already making them (and maybe
verify against them again at a later time)
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1574[11:24:54] <k_sze[work]> Is there a nice way check if e.g.
eth0 is currently in the 172.26.252.0/22 subnet?
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1575[11:25:41] <k_sze[work]> I mean in a script, using command
line tools.
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1579[11:26:51] <pingfloyd> Iridos: I don't think it does any
kind of post-copy verfication
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1581[11:26:56] <pingfloyd> Iridos: and that's the problem
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1583[11:27:12] <pingfloyd> Iridos: so running a second time does
the equivalent
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1584[11:27:49] <pingfloyd> Iridos: of course this depends on
source files having not changed, but that is no different than with
any other means of backup verification
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1586[11:27:58] <Iridos> manpage says differently:
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1587[11:28:02] <jno7463> k_sze[work]: ip route | grep -w eth0 |
grep -qF 172.26.252.0/22
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1588[11:28:08] <pingfloyd> Iridos: also a good argument (beyond
consistency issues) for using snapshots as a source in backup
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1589[11:28:13] <jno7463> k_sze[work]: then check exit code of
grep
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1591[11:28:27] <pingfloyd> Iridos: the manpage is misleading
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1592[11:28:33] <Iridos> Note that rsync always verifies that each
transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side
by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is
transferred
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1593[11:28:56] <pingfloyd> Iridos: see this
replaced-url
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1595[11:31:23] <babilen> k_sze[work]: You might want to look into
tools such as saltstack or ansible
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1596[11:32:07] <k_sze[work]> jno7463: but that only hold true if
there is a route to 172.26.252.0/22 via eth0. eth0's IP address
might not be in that range.
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1597[11:32:28] <k_sze[work]> maybe grep for 'proto
kernel' as well?
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1598[11:32:37] <k_sze[work]> or 'scope link'?
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1607[11:35:40] <vp|2> hello everyone, I'm having an issue
reading Model-specific registers (msr module) on a Debian 7 (3.2
kernel) system, in short: I'm granting group read/write access
to /dev/cpu/*/msr, and cap_sys_rawio+ep capabilities to the program
but I'm still getting "open("/dev/cpu/0/msr",
O_RDWR) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted", any ideas?
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1624[11:45:39] <Iridos> pingfloyd, well, "that is generated
as the file is transferred"... so, true, it probably
doesn't read the file a 2nd time, it just makes sure there are
no errors in the network transfer
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1635[11:52:44] <aricz> Anyone here have experience with Intel
Edison and Ubilinux? Does bluetooth work out of the box?
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1651[11:58:12] <bumbar_> i copied some files from remote server
(archived them with tar) and when i try to open them on my local
machine, i get permission denied. i've tried chown-ing them,
and although it says i'm the owner, i can't open them
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1660[12:01:35] <rommel092079> good pm. upon install of debian, i
got message missing rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw Where will I get that
missing file ?
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1677[12:06:30] <themill> ,file rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw
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1678[12:06:34] <judd> Search for rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw in
jessie/amd64: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw
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1679[12:06:35] <themill> rommel092079: ^^
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1680[12:07:01] <rommel092079> tnx. will check it out
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1684[12:08:50] <Iridos> rommel092079, also, for generally finding
files, read the factoid you get with: /msg dpkg apt-file
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1690[12:10:46] <rommel092079> thanks all
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1716[12:18:57] <aricz> nm, bluetooth on ubilinux does work out of
the box
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1737[12:26:01] <Arch> night
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1748[12:32:48] <pingfloyd> Iridos: yeah, i think it's for
validating the transfer itself
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1751[12:33:35] <pingfloyd> Iridos: so it covers the potential of
corruption in transfer, but not so much from there.
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1754[12:34:50] <pingfloyd> Iridos: so the general consensus is a
second run for post-copy verification which makes sense if you think
about how rsync behaves on subsequent runs
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1755[12:35:32] <pingfloyd> i.e., nothing should be copied if
everything is exactly the same
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1758[12:36:05] <Iridos> quick changing files would have changed,
though
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1761[12:36:25] <pingfloyd> Iridos: of course, but that would fail
verification with other backup programs too
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1763[12:36:45] <pingfloyd> only difference would be when it
changed
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1765[12:37:33] <pingfloyd> the latter program would be if changed
mid copy. But snapshots as a source for backup are always a good
idea because if the file changes mid copy you've got
consistency issues on your hands.
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1770[12:38:13] <pingfloyd> though seems like most backup programs
run a verification phase after backup phase anyway
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1771[12:38:18] <Iridos> you mean filesystem snapshots?
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1772[12:38:34] <themill> well, a verification program should be
verifying that the backup still matches the files that were on the
disk at the time, not verifying that the backup still matches the
files *currently* on disk
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1775[12:38:48] <pingfloyd> Iridos: yeah
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1779[12:39:07] <Iridos> lunch
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1780[12:39:48] <pingfloyd> or what I do is use a lvm snapshot
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1781[12:40:08] <pingfloyd> and rsync from that
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1786[12:42:02] <themill> you still have no way of verifying later
on that the backup is still OK, that it hasn't been degraded,
corrupted, tampered with, accidentally lost bits, …
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1807[12:52:33] <rommel092079> good day guys. I have found the
firmware file rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw I burn it to cd, but the
installer cant load the missing firmware still. What to do here ?
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1810[12:54:33] <michaelis> rommel092079: I had the same problem
yesterday, but with a USB stick.
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1811[12:54:53] <rommel092079> so put that on usb stick?
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1812[12:54:56] <michaelis> rommel092079: Have you put the drivers
in firmware folder?
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1813[12:55:31] <rommel092079> yes i tried that on dvd
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1817[12:57:11] <themill> rommel092079: do you need wireless
access to complete the installation? The path of least resistance is
to plug it in...
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1818[12:57:19] <michaelis> rommel092079: If my memory
doesn't fail me I think it had something to do with the
partition table on my USB stick. I had to mkfs.vfat -I directly on
/dev/sdc and NOT /dev/sdc1.
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1819[12:57:55] <themill> (that rings a bell too)
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1821[12:58:05] <rommel092079> i think it works now on usb. thanks
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1823[12:58:16] <michaelis> rommel092079: Your welcome.
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1827[12:58:26] <themill> you should be able to throw the original
package on the usb stick, no need to extract it
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1830[12:59:11] <rommel092079> yes. thanks again for that input.
good day
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1838[13:01:44] <dagerik> im having troubles with running
virtualbox:
replaced-url
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1842[13:02:48] <michaelis> dagerik: Have you tried to install
virtualbox-dkms?
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1843[13:02:55] <dagerik> yeah it's installed
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1851[13:04:33] <michaelis> dagerik: Have you read this:
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1865[13:10:15] <dagerik> im getting Module build for the
currently running kernel was skipped since the
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1866[13:10:16] <dagerik> kernel source for this kernel does not
seem to be installed.
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1867[13:10:22] <dagerik> on apt-get install --reinstall
virtualbox-dkms
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1870[13:12:33] <michaelis> dagerik:
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1871[13:12:40] <michaelis> I'm going for lunch.
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1872[13:13:15] <dagerik> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
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1873[13:13:18] <dagerik> E: Unable to locate package
linux-headers-4.3.0-1-amd64
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1889[13:25:44] <uhrias> hi, do you know what's the name of
package to install kde web accounts in debian?
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1891[13:26:21] <uhrias> just curious
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1897[13:31:11] <Iridos> maybe plasma-dataengines-workspace and
related?
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1903[13:32:24] <dagerik> im having troubles with virtualbox
because I have messed up kernel install. I have differnet kernel and
kernel sources than what is installed I think
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1904[13:32:29] <dagerik> how can I fix this
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1905[13:32:50] <uhrias> Iridos: thanks, but it seems there
isn't in debian testing
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1907[13:33:12] <Iridos> and it doesn't contain any files
that have "web" in the name in stable
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1908[13:33:24] <Iridos> judd, versions
plasma-dataengines-workspace
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1909[13:33:26] <judd> Package: plasma-dataengines-workspace on
amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; jessie:
4:4.11.13-2
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1910[13:33:45] <Iridos> judd, versions plasma-widgets-workspace
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1911[13:33:46] <judd> Package: plasma-widgets-workspace on amd64
-- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; jessie:
4:4.11.13-2
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1913[13:34:32] <Iridos> uhrias, ask in #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net for things regarding testing/unstable, I only have a
debian-stable here
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1915[13:35:53] <Iridos> uhrias, or for any distro...
replaced-url
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1916[13:35:58] <uhrias> Iridos:
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1919[13:38:17] <rgr> dagerik: what do yo mean you have a
different kernel than the one installed? Ensure you have the sources
for the installed one installed and reinstall vbox.
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1922[13:40:46] <DrOwl> Hi all, is there a methord to create a
"virtual" usb storage device
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1924[13:42:27] <rozie> DrOwl: what do you want to achieve?
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1926[13:42:36] <DrOwl> I have an apliance that needs a license
key mounted on a USB stick, but its all wraped up in virtulisation
(VMware) i was wondering if there was some way to localy emulate a
USB storage device from local files
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1928[13:43:21] <rozie> it will probably need physical device, not
just license file
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1929[13:43:27] <DrOwl> this is asuming i can get on the shell, so
far i can only see a way to get to a TUI
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1931[13:43:36] <rozie> but you can mount on loop device
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1932[13:43:40] <malu72> hello. i have debian testing running. For
example the openjdk in debian jessie is newer because of some
security fixes. How comes that the openjdk version is older in
testing?+
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1933[13:43:58] <rozie> malu72: what version do you have?
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1936[13:44:08] <DrOwl> no they say just but a key (a .deb) file
on a FAT32 formated USB stick and mount it on the appliance
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1940[13:44:34] <soee> hi, is it safe to update nginx on Jessie
from 16. to 1.8 ?
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1941[13:44:47] <DrOwl> so far i only have infomation that it will
scan any local USB storage devices looking for the file
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1942[13:44:51] <soee> and is there some better way than dotdeb ?
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1943[13:45:03] <malu72> rozie, in jessie the version is
7u95-2.6.4-1
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1946[13:45:45] <malu72> in testing it is 7u91-2.6.3-1
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1947[13:45:47] <rozie> malu72: you can grab 7u95-2.6.4-1 from
unstable
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1951[13:46:17] <malu72> how comes that testing is older than
jessie?
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1954[13:47:32] <markybob> ,v nginx
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1955[13:47:33] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3;
squeeze-security-lts: 0.7.67-3+squeeze4+deb6u1; squeeze-backports:
1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4;
wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; jessie: 1.6.2-5; wheezy-backports:
1.6.2-5+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u1;
jessie-backports: 1.9.10-1~bpo8+1; sid:
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1956[13:47:34] <judd> 1.9.10-1; stretch: 1.9.10-1
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1958[13:48:10] <markybob> rozie: ^ so jessie-backports has the
same version as sid.
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1960[13:48:20] <markybob> !tell rozie about jessie-backports
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1967[13:50:53] <grauzikas> hello, today i was installing one of
servers and i have detected strange think, in partitioning menu i
have created partition, but i cant select ext4 filesystem type
because i just cant see it
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1968[13:51:07] <grauzikas> there is btrfs swap xfs and so on, but
no ext4
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1969[13:51:19] <markybob> rozie: what he asked about was your
misinformation about testing
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1970[13:51:25] <grauzikas> i have installed a lot of servers
never had this issue
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1973[13:52:26] <grauzikas> guided partitioning creates it
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1974[13:52:40] <grauzikas> but i need manualy select size for
partitions
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1975[13:52:52] <grauzikas> and from manual menu i cant see ext4
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1980[13:58:32] <malu72> hello. is it possible to have 3d
accellaration with debian jessie and Intel HD 520 aka skylake?
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1984[14:00:25] <markybob> malu72: for skylake you get much better
graphics and battery life with 4.5. but you'll need to compile
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1988[14:03:36] <malu72> markybob, do i only need to compile the
kernel or the graphics stack as well? Because with the backports in
jessie skylake is working. only problem is videos are soo slow.
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1990[14:04:07] <markybob> malu72: just the kernel
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1993[14:04:32] <malu72> and then i will have accellaration for
e.g. vdeos?
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1994[14:04:56] <markybob> malu72: that's my understanding
from the changelogs. i don't have skylake so i've never
tested it myself
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1996[14:06:14] <malu72> ok. but the problem is that even i use
kernel 4.4 i only got gallium as graphics stack
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1997[14:06:43] <malu72> so this shoul change then with 4.5?
asking because i tried with kernel 4.4 and debian unstable and there
i have 3d-acc
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copy it to usb?
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2012[14:11:53] <grauzikas> this is netinstall
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2013[14:12:00] <grauzikas> via pxe
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2014[14:12:09] <grauzikas> i have used that pxe install many
times
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2015[14:12:09] <markybob> hmm
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2016[14:12:21] <grauzikas> but today i have detected that there
is no ext4
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2017[14:12:47] <grauzikas> via netinstall partitioning tools are
downloading from apt sources
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2018[14:12:55] <grauzikas> so i beleave that it is global problem
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2022[14:13:43] <grauzikas> i have normal debian wheezy netinstall
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2023[14:14:08] <grauzikas> i have downloaded it from debian
source and i have only added bnx driver into it
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2024[14:14:15] <grauzikas> and i have used it many times
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2026[14:14:33] <grauzikas> i have installed via this pxe more
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2079[14:39:39] <alez2> hello
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2082[14:40:48] <alez2> anyone using weechat here? i want to login
to my account with this client
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2093[14:44:09] <opencert> heyyy
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2094[14:44:10] <opencert> hi
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2097[14:44:22] <opencert> how i can back this file ?
replaced-url
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2101[14:45:05] <themill> opencert: what are you trying to do?
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2105[14:46:23] <opencert> look here:
replaced-url
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2106[14:46:31] <opencert> i try this
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2110[14:47:11] <opencert> i see file but i cant recovery
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2113[14:47:43] <opencert> dls /dev/sda1 1835008-1867775 >
/root/home/x/block.dat
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2119[14:48:47] <opencert> the last command: dls /dev/sda1
1835008-1867775 > /root/home/x/block.dat
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2120[14:48:51] <opencert> not workin
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2121[14:48:52] <opencert> g
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2126[14:50:24] <drmagoo> opencert: have you installed it ?
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2133[14:52:45] <opencert> drmagoo: what?
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2136[14:53:18] <drmagoo> opencert: have you installed the
sleuthkit-package ?
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2140[14:54:34] <opencert> no
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2144[14:55:14] <opencert> how i can install it?
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2146[14:56:03] <drmagoo> opencert: sudo apt-get update &&
apt-get install sleuthkit
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2149[14:58:20] <opencert> Unknown request "dls". Type
"?" for a request list.
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2150[14:58:27] <opencert> not working
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2151[14:59:02] <aricz> Hi, I'm following this guide
replaced-url
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2152[14:59:50] <aricz> running 'bluetoothctl' and
executing 'power on' gives "No default controller
available"
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2154[15:00:10] <Aliekezhi> hi, do I need to have jessie_backports
in my sources.list to remove a software installed from it ? I'm
having trouble trying to remove flash from backports....
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2157[15:01:28] <aricz> I've also done the
"Troubleshooting the pairing" in the same guide
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2160[15:02:16] <Aliekezhi> (oh it seems only aptitude has a
problem with it, not apt-get...)
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2161[15:02:38] <Aliekezhi> should I trust aptitude conflict
detection or should I use only apt-get ?
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2163[15:03:40] <drmagoo> opencert: which version of debian are
you using ?
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2168[15:05:18] <opencert> i use kali :(
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2170[15:05:39] <opencert> I regret
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2171[15:05:42] <drmagoo> opencert: then I suggest you ask in
#kali or #kali-linux
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2175[15:07:58] <bezaban> ,v salt-minion
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2176[15:07:59] <judd> Package: salt-minion on amd64 --
squeeze-backports-sloppy: 0.15.1-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports:
0.17.5+ds-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2014.1.13+ds-3; stretch: 2015.8.7+ds-1;
sid: 2015.8.8+ds-1
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2177[15:08:20] <drmagoo> aricz: try> lsmod | grep bluetooth
and see if the kernelmodule is loaded.
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2179[15:09:14] <aricz> 'lsmod | grep bluetooth' gives
this output
replaced-url
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2191[15:13:26] <aricz> so seems the module is loaded right? and
'/etc/init.d/bluetooth status' also seems to show it as
running
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2193[15:13:31] <g00se> Could i please have the proper command to
disable xscreensaver via systemd?
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2199[15:14:28] <g00se> I thought it was sudo systemctl disable
xscreensaver.service but obviously not
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2203[15:15:29] <drmagoo> aricz: that looks right. Have you tried
any of the GUI's to set this up? I dont use any bluetooth
devices my self so I cant do any tests...
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2208[15:15:50] <jno7463> xscreensaver is not a system-wide
service. it is started during graphical login as part of the
user's X session.
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2211[15:16:29] <aricz> drmagoo: haven't tried anything but
console yet
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2212[15:16:44] <jno7463> g00se: if you want to disable it, just
run xscreensaver-demo from a terminal and change config to disable
it
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2215[15:16:58] <aricz> but guess I gotta get into gui then, been
sitting with this for several hours now.. 'blueman' ..
here I come hehe
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2218[15:17:21] <drmagoo> aricz: reading from the wiki...
"hcitool scan" does that provide anything useful ?
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2219[15:17:51] <aricz> gives the same problem, there's no
device available
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2222[15:18:12] <drmagoo> aricz: then I dont have any ideas =(
sry...
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2223[15:18:14] <aricz> I've tried everything in the guide I
think
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2224[15:18:18] <aricz> npnp, thanks for trying
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2225[15:18:20] <g00se> jno7463: OK thanks.
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2230[15:19:32] <aricz> seems the bluetooth module is loaded.. but
it isn't enabled.. hah
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2246[15:20:55] <drmagoo> aricz: =)
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2247[15:21:12] <g00se> jno7463: i actually can't see WHERE
you disable it in x*-demo
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2253[15:21:47] <g00se> Got it - it's in Mode
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2254[15:21:50] <jno7463> g00se: Mode: [Disable Screen Saver]
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2255[15:21:55] <markybob> hell why not just apt-get remove it if
you don't want it?
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2574[15:24:13] <markybob> g00se: yeah i know about the bug. try
light-locker if you want something
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2602[15:24:54] <g00se> markybob: Nah. Don't need anything
fortunately
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2610[15:25:06] <jno7463> g00se: oh, you mean the nice
"xscreensaver is very old" bug? :)
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2611[15:25:09] <poncha> i have my own (custom) init.d script
which i used previously on older debian, and (on jessie) the system
complains i am missing a .service file for it... why?
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2615[15:25:44] <g00se> Exactly
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2619[15:26:17] <g00se> Although of course it's not a bug.
It's an insult
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2623[15:26:49] <poncha> the script uses init-tools. does that
imply new requirements now? or something else? cause if i just
create a dummy shellscript with case in /etc/init.d - it runs
without any other requirements
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2626[15:27:06] <themill> poncha: full output would be useful?
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2634[15:27:25] <poncha> themill: [....] Starting ramdisk-fonts
(via systemctl): ramdisk-fonts.serviceFailed to start
ramdisk-fonts.service: Unit ramdisk-fonts.service failed to load: No
such file or directory.
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2656[15:29:01] <poncha> themill: now, i do not have systemd unit
files , yeah (but neither did i have them on older debian)
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2659[15:29:11] <grafos> hi, debian user here. i need an image to
ascii generator. what are my options
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2669[15:29:59] <poncha> grafos: apt-cache search ascii | grep -i
image
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2670[15:30:02] <themill> poncha: where is this init script and
how is it installed?
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2671[15:30:19] <poncha> themill: i wrote it, can pastebin. just a
sec
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2682[15:31:08] <poncha> themill:
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2683[15:31:09] <jno7463> grafos: you could install netpbm and use
something like pnmtopng file.png | ppmtopgm | pnmscale -w 158 |
pgmtopbm | pbmtoascii -2x4
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2684[15:31:09] <themill> poncha: and is it in /etc/init.d? (and
has it been there since boot or only just copied in or ...)
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2687[15:31:41] <poncha> themill: yep, it's in /etc/init.d -
cause i want it (in the end) to be used on startup to preload stuff
into ramdisk
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2692[15:32:08] <grafos> jno7463: yeah i would like to actually
make a frame based cursor animation of playing otters, kind of like
this one
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2694[15:32:27] <poncha> themill: it hasn't been there yet on
this system, but was there on older system which i am migrating from
;)
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2698[15:33:03] <grafos> going to need to link a bunch of tools
together ina script, like imagemagick, and then i'll end up
rendering them with my ANSI vt100 cursor drawing library
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2700[15:33:11] <g00se> Nice script
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2701[15:33:13] <poncha> the script creates (or destroys - on
stop) the ramdisk, loads/syncs files from local hdd
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2703[15:33:47] <themill> poncha: installing it with update-rc.d
will cause additional things to happen which I suspect are necessary
here
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2706[15:34:19] <poncha> themill: but that would register for
runlevels... meanwhile i cant even run it manually
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2707[15:34:27] <jno7463> grafos: maybe some aalib based thing...
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2711[15:34:32] <poncha> i will try though ;)
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2713[15:34:41] <themill> poncha: it will do more than that
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2714[15:35:49] <poncha> update-rc.d ramdisk-fonts enable
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2715[15:35:49] <poncha> update-rc.d: error: no runlevel symlinks
to modify, aborting!
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2716[15:36:08] <poncha> it clearly doesn't understand
something about it ;)
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2719[15:36:40] <poncha> but if i just create a dummy shellscript
"blah" inside with just "#!/bin/bash" - it does
not try to ... just runs it as-is
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2729[15:38:23] <themill> poncha: make sure it has something to do
then; disable then enable for instance
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2734[15:39:39] <poncha> themill: if i run "update-rc.d
ramdisk-fonts disable" - it says the same thing, so it's
not like it was already enabled
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2736[15:40:30] <themill> oh, you want "defaults" not
"enable"
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2737[15:41:15] <themill> "defaults" actually installs
the init script links, "enable"/"disable" just
tweak K<->S names
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2739[15:41:21] <poncha> now it did something... so now i get
other type of errors ;)
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2741[15:42:10] <poncha> [....] Starting ramdisk-fonts (via
systemctl): ramdisk-fonts.serviceJob for ramdisk-fonts.service
failed. See 'systemctl status ramdisk-fonts.service' and
'journalctl -xn' for details.
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2743[15:43:01] <poncha> hm. it created that
"ramdisk-fonts.service" somewhere for me - but not
anywhere in /etc
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2746[15:43:09] <themill> it's quite good at telling you
where to find the information
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2748[15:44:18] <poncha> yeah. now the info gets better ;)
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2753[15:45:52] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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2756[15:46:52] <tobiasBora> A patch in the kernel has been found
here :
replaced-url
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2757[15:47:23] <tobiasBora> What is the good procedure to do to
add it in the next version of the kernel ?
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2759[15:48:10] <tobiasBora> (This patch make Mediatek bluetooth
work under Kernel 4.x
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2764[15:48:12] <tobiasBora> )
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2769[15:48:57] <poncha> oh. i was wrong... so much time has
passed since i wrote this - i forgot what it does and does not ;)))
it does not *create* the ramdisk. it should already be mounted (via
fstab) - hence the dependency on mountall
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2772[15:49:18] <poncha> after creating the ramdisk - it worked
fine ;)
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2793[15:53:59] <iamnotarobot> In debian are additional TTYs
enabled by default? I.e. if you press
<ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> does it change TTY?
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2796[15:54:28] <colo-work> yes
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2797[15:54:29] <ksk> yap
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2800[15:54:38] <Johann> today you are most likely on tty1 by
default
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2802[15:55:16] <poncha> X runs on tty1 now?
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2803[15:55:38] <iamnotarobot> My friend has a debian box and
reckons that it wont let him do that; is there are config files
which could have been altered to disabled them?
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2806[15:56:16] <Johann> poncha: i think so, didn't use any
default installation of X for a long time so not that sure about it
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2808[15:56:45] <markybob> yes it now does
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2809[15:56:52] <poncha> so ctrl-alt-f2 ;)
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2810[15:57:00] <mo1991_> anyone with any ideas on this update
problem?? debian stable - libsane : Depends: libsane-common (=
1.0.24-8) but 1.0.24-8+deb8u1 is installed
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2811[15:57:06] <zykotick9> poncha: if you use "startx"
it does, not sure about the a *dm
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2812[15:57:09] <Johann> just noting that he should try tty2
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2816[15:57:44] <mo1991_> perhaps a bug on a recent update?
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2817[15:57:45] <Johann> mo1991_: try to update your system
(apt-get update; apt-get upgrade)
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2818[15:57:49] <poncha> exactly the reason i asked that ;) (maybe
he tries ctrl-alt-f1 from same tty... )
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2825[15:58:17] <mo1991_> Johann that's what I was just doing
- apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
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2827[15:58:24] <Johann> sorry
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2828[15:58:26] <Johann> misread
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2830[15:58:50] * zykotick9 notes nvidia.com's driver sometimes
breaks the TTYs
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2832[15:59:32] <mo1991_> gives me the error above. Strange,
usually don't see this type of "version" but in
stable. It looks to me like that is what it is - not sure though.
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2838[16:01:01] <markybob> mo1991_: i want to see your
sources.list.
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2839[16:01:19] <themill> mo1991_: can you pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy libsane libsane-common" for us?
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2840[16:01:32] <mo1991_> yup give me a sec
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2841[16:02:25] <Johann> mo1991_: it still looks like you have a
problem in your update because libsane depends on
'libsane-common (= 1.0.24-8+deb8u1)' not
'libsane-common (= 1.0.24-8)' (see
replaced-url
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2842[16:02:45] <Johann> try to apt-get update again
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2843[16:03:37] <mo1991_>
replaced-url
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2847[16:04:44] <themill> mo1991_: so what does "apt
upgrade" want to do?
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2851[16:05:21] <mo1991_> wan'ts to apt-get -f install
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2854[16:05:35] <themill> mo1991_: ok, so what does that do?
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2856[16:06:03] <mo1991_> wants to sorry. which would probably
work. Just not sure why it would ask me to do this during standard
update process so thought i'd see what's going on.
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2860[16:06:28] <mo1991_> It wants to force the versions , but
this isn't normally necessary in a stable upgrade is it?
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2862[16:07:04] <themill> "force versions"?
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2863[16:07:11] <themill> full output might be better
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2865[16:09:14] <mo1991_>
replaced-url
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2866[16:09:23] <mo1991_> themill. Here is apt-get upgrade output
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2869[16:10:19] <themill> mo1991_: what's the output of
"apt-cache policy libsane:i386" then?
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2873[16:11:35] <mo1991_>
replaced-url
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2875[16:11:52] <mo1991_> this is where I stop understanding
what's going on.
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2877[16:12:22] <mo1991_> perhaps a version but in the i386
version??
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2880[16:13:27] <themill> most odd. apt seems to have all the
packages it needs but just doesn't want to install them.
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2881[16:13:50] <themill> See if "aptitude full-upgrade"
wants to upgrade and configure happily
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2891[16:16:35] <hiya> does openssl offered by debian 8 has AESNI
engine enabled?
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2892[16:16:42] <hiya> if not how to do it?
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2897[16:18:19] <Martyn> Hello all
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2900[16:18:36] <Martyn> Is there a simple way to turn an
installed system into a preseed file?
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2901[16:18:38] <mo1991_> the mill -
replaced-url
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2903[16:18:51] <Martyn> i.e. go through an install once, and then
generate a valid preseed package list?
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2905[16:19:40] <ksk> hiya: does not look like its builtin to me.
You would probably build it yourself, I would however not
recommecned that for software as big/complex as openssl..
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2906[16:19:45] <themill> mo1991_: ah! well that's progress.
I had been wondering why apt had died in the middle of your upgrade.
What's wrong with
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-coolscan3.la ?
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2913[16:21:02] <mi11k1> is there a way to give higher priority to
USB devices , such as Wireless , I am using hostapd and it seems
kind of sluggish, transferring locally with Samba and SFTP?
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2914[16:21:46] <hiya> ksk, but I need it for openvpn
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2915[16:21:50] <jhutchins> Martyn:
replaced-url
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2917[16:22:16] <jhutchins> Martyn:
replaced-url
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2918[16:22:23] <noobandnoober> Hi
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2920[16:22:42] <Aliekezhi> hi, how can I downgrade a package from
stretch to jessie ?
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2922[16:22:57] <mo1991_> themill - I don't know??? Any
thoughts as to find out? I certainly haven't messed with that
file
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2925[16:23:35] <themill> mo1991_: have a look at the directory
and its permissions; have a look at the output of "mount"
and "dmesg"
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2926[16:23:38] <noobandnoober> I tried to add a monitor to my
laptop, but the monitor stop being detected after GRUB, what can be
the problem?
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2929[16:25:14] <axk4545> with the standard debian live cd what
package mgmt frontend is installed?
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2930[16:26:22] <jhutchins> axk4545: You should have apt-get and
probably aptitude.
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2932[16:27:01] <axk4545> jhutchins: nothing GUI by default?
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2936[16:28:58] <karlpinc> hiya: What are you really trying to do?
(I can't even find a AESNS engine for openssl on the web.)
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2937[16:29:23] <hiya> karlpinc, AESNI for openssl = popular in
openvpn community
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2944[16:30:44] <karlpinc> hiya: Ah. AES-NI. That's a
processor optimization. You don't really need it, it just makes
things run faster.
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2948[16:31:39] <hiya> karlpinc, Exactly, and that is what I want
right now
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2949[16:31:39] <hiya> :D
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2951[16:31:59] <karlpinc> hiya: To see if it's on try answer
8 from
replaced-url
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2953[16:33:02] <mo1991reg> themill - I dont' see any issues
with dmesg or mount that stick out to me???
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2954[16:33:22] <karlpinc> hiya: My experience with these sorts of
engines is that the context switching required to go in and out of
ring0 makes the engines not worth it. YMMV.
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2955[16:33:32] <jhutchins> axk4545: Why would you use a GUI for
package management?
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2957[16:33:43] <jhutchins> axk4545: aptitude includes a text menu
mode.
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2959[16:34:09] <axk4545> jhutchins: I wouldn't but I am
writing an install guide for new users.
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2960[16:34:12] <themill> aes-ni isn't an engine anyway,
it's an implementation detail of a lower layer
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2961[16:34:34] * karlpinc thinks that aptitude includes the text menu
mode from hell. But maybe that's just me.
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2963[16:35:12] <Martyn> jhutchins : Thank you!
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2965[16:35:31] <Martyn> jhutchins : I'm doing a full upgrade
of all my systems from squeeze->wheezy
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2968[16:35:42] <themill> axk4545: if you don't want to give
them a console based system, why are you giving them a console based
live image?
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2969[16:35:44] <zykotick9> karlpinc: your not alone. i love
ncurses based programs... BUT aptitude is not on the list.
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2971[16:35:50] <Martyn> some can't make the transition, so
I'm having to preseed install a number of virtual instances
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2972[16:36:27] <karlpinc> Hum. If ans-ns can be utilized in
userspace maybe it's worth it. And if so it's probably
"on" in debian.
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2973[16:36:27] <themill> mo1991reg: I'm stuck on what could
give that error beyond some sort of unhappy filesystem. I'm
assuming that /usr isn't on nfs or something like that....
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2974[16:36:41] <themill> karlpinc: it should be, yes
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2975[16:37:00] <Martyn> jhutchins : I use a GUI for package
management --- across a very large cluster. When you have a couple
thousand machines, it's nice to be able to keep track of it all
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2976[16:37:18] <mo1991reg> themill - nope, I've been running
this system as is for quite some time - like a year. nothing special
really
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2977[16:37:39] <mo1991reg> only home is on a different partition
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2978[16:38:11] <axk4545> themill: I didn't think I was. I am
planning to use this iso: debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-standard.iso. Is
it text based?
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2980[16:38:24] <themill> axk4545: that's what the
documentation says.
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2982[16:39:38] <axk4545> themill: oops. what is the generic
flavor that would be analogous to Ubuntu Desktop or Fedora
Workstation?
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2986[16:40:26] <themill> axk4545:
replaced-url
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2990[16:41:24] <mo1991reg> themill - and the libsane-coolscan3.la
file has not been touched since 2014...... permissions look right,
etc.
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2992[16:42:17] <axk4545> themill: ok. probably should write it
Linux Mint then.
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2994[16:42:34] <themill> mo1991reg: what's the full output
of "mount"?
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2995[16:43:28] <mo1991reg> mount
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2996[16:43:31] <mo1991reg> opps
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3008[16:44:44] <mo1991reg> themill -
replaced-url
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3015[16:45:45] <ashes-mobile> hello. i installed debian 8 on my
beaglebone. it's updated to latest software. if i use
wpa_supplicant and dhclient manually my wireless device will work,
but the setup i have in /etc/networks/interfaces does not work on
boot. any suggestions?
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3016[16:46:14] <themill> mo1991reg: nothing interesting there
either
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3024[16:47:33] <mo1991reg> themill - I think I ran into something
like this before - with some kind of conflict having to do with the
:i386 package not quite being set up right and causing conflicts -
I"m talking years ago. Been a long time since I ran into
anything like this on stable.
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3027[16:47:56] <themill> this isn't an issue with packages
and dependencies
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3029[16:48:53] <mo1991reg> the aptitude output give an error -
unable to make backup link of
`./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-coolscan3.la' before
installing new version: Operation not permitted
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3030[16:48:54] <themill> root is being given EPERM (Operation not
permitted) when trying to copy a file; that's pretty unusual
and points to other problems but we don't know what.
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3033[16:49:35] <themill> I assume the disk is nowhere near full
(although that should be ENOSPC)
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3038[16:50:39] <mo1991reg> themill - disk is not full
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3039[16:51:21] <themill> When root gets EPERM that normally means
a read-only filesystem such as when a disk is dying.
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3045[16:53:26] <mo1991reg> themill - and I have no problem
copying that file to crap.bak.......
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3046[16:54:00] <mo1991reg> using cp libsane-coolscan3.la crap.bak
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3047[16:54:04] <themill> try moving the file out of the way and
trying again
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3048[16:54:07] <LIERO> any suggestions on how to figure out what
caused a reboot?
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3049[16:54:11] <LIERO> /var/log/acpid is empty
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3056[16:56:31] <mo1991reg> themill - this would be the problem I
think. I can't rm the file as root
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3061[17:16:20] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: no
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3065[17:17:48] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: see if you can find
anything network related when you run 'sudo systemctl
list-units'
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3080[17:21:24] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: networking.service,
network.target, sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device
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3091[17:27:08] <ashes-mobile> could it be starting from dbus?
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3096[17:28:37] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: can you paste your
interfaces file?
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3099[17:30:38] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark:
replaced-url
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3113[17:35:51] <mo1991reg> themill - any thoughts on why I
can't delete that file? rebooted to see if that helped but no
go
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3114[17:35:53] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: did you follow the
instructions here:
replaced-url
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3117[17:37:23] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i did try with the
hashed password as well
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3123[17:38:26] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: well, for wpa-psk, you
will need the hashed key regardless, so go ahead and put it back in.
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3124[17:38:55] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i also can't
explain how eth0 is being configured with dhcp
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3127[17:39:34] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: Well, you don't
have anything in that file that will configure eth0, so I believe
dhcp is default.
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3135[17:42:19] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i rebooted with the
hashed password. iwconfig says no association. ifconfig shows no ip
for wlan0. and wpa_cli scan fails on wlan0
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3140[17:44:37] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: try the wpa_cli
command with sudo
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3143[17:45:05] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: same result
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3144[17:45:27] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: if i run
wpa_supplicant manually, then wpa_cli scan works
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3147[17:46:13] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: i don't think
wpa_supplicant is using /etc/network/interfaces
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3148[17:46:38] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: wait, do you have
anything in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ ?
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3150[17:47:09] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: no
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3161[17:52:49] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: if i do 'ifconfig
wlan0 up', then 'wpa_cli scan' is OK
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3165[17:54:04] <mo1991reg> I cannot update the "sane"
package as the file
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-coolscan3.la appears to be
corrupted or something, and cannot be replaced or removed for some
unknown reason - even as root. I can create and remove other files
within that same directory. Anyone help? Very strange
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3166[17:54:26] <ashes-mobile> thurstylark: after a fresh reboot i
ran 'ifconfig wlan0 up', then wpa_supplicant associated to
the AP by itself, then i ran 'dhclient wlan0', and that
works
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3194[18:05:04] <thurstylark> ashes-mobile: As far as your
interfaces file, I can't think of a reason that it's not
being used.
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3196[18:05:42] <ksk> hey. Is there some cool encryption in
userspace deamon/application? Like a pipe or whatever where I just
put my stuff and it transparently encrypts it. Used to use encfs but
thats kinda dead IIRC
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3204[18:07:59] <Brigo> ksk, lucks maybe?
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3205[18:09:37] <thurstylark> *luks
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3226[18:19:17] <ksk> Brigo, thurstylark yeah looks good, thanks.
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3229[18:21:09] <Iridos> my iceweasel says I have an old and
vulnerable flashplugin of version 11.2.202.569 in Path:
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so (about:plugin)...
/usr/sbin/update-flashplugin-nonfree says I have version
11.2.202.577
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3232[18:21:36] <Iridos> and update-flashplugin basically does
that using strings /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
|grep LNX --> LNX 11,2,202,577
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3233[18:21:56] <Brigo> Iridos, update-flashplugin install
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3242[18:24:09] <tpap> Hi! I tried to resize (shrink) my ext4
debian partition with gparted live and debian liveCD (using gparted)
but in both cases it failed saying that i need to get a newer
version of e2fsck due to an unsupported feature of the filesystem
(metadata_csum). Anyone know what I should do?
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3243[18:24:18] <Iridos> Brigo, it's
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install ... and if you read to the end,
the plugin is on the last version that update-flashplugin supports
... but iceweasel pretends it's an older one
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3246[18:25:12] <Brigo> Iridos, did you close iceweasel?
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3253[18:27:00] <rozie> tpap: did you try resize2fs (from liveCD
or at least unmounted partition)?
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3255[18:28:00] <tpap> rozie: only with gparted livecd and it says
another error due to unsupported features, now i will try from
livecd
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3260[18:29:07] <tpap> rozie: same here (resize2fs: Filesystem has
unsupported read-only feature(s) while trying to open /dev/sda3)
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3261[18:29:20] <Iridos> Brigo, yes...
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3262[18:29:33] <Iridos> guess I can kill it another time and see
really no process is left
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3263[18:29:38] <Brigo> Iridos, i had to ask, you know it :)
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3264[18:29:41] <Iridos> looks like this
replaced-url
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3266[18:29:53] <Iridos> well, good idea to do it another time
however useless it seems
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3269[18:30:28] <tpap> rozie: if it mean something, i have a
gpt-type partition table
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3270[18:31:02] <rozie> what is version of resize2fs and gparted
on this live?
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3271[18:31:15] <Iridos> I only have like a 100 windows with a 100
tabs... but it's the best idea I see
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3274[18:31:31] <Brigo> Iridos, mine:
replaced-url
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3275[18:31:36] <Iridos> well, same
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3278[18:32:08] <Brigo> Iridos, really i am no using firefox not
iceweasel. i will check it now.
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3279[18:32:21] <tpap> rozie: gparted is 0.19.0, resize2fs is
1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
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3281[18:32:31] <soee> someone is using dotdeb PHP7 with ISPConfig
?
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3283[18:32:47] <Iridos> it's something in the profile...
when I start it with another profile, about:plugins reports
11.2.202.577
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3284[18:32:53] <Brigo> Iridos, now with iceweasel from
jessie.backports, no problem
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3287[18:34:00] <rozie> tpap: so not very old
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3288[18:34:30] <Iridos> the error is gone if I start iceweasel
with a different profile... weird, both report that they use the
same .so
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3299[18:36:02] <Brigo> maybe another .so or the cache.
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3304[18:36:37] <tpap2> rozie: yeah. Maybe The gparted live beta
will help?
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3313[18:39:18] <Iridos> Brigo, got it.
~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/pluginreg.dat had the older version...
obviously that's what iceweasel assumes to be the version
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3314[18:39:29] <Iridos> fun
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