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16[00:07:32] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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21[00:09:10] <tobiasBora> I have some troubles with my bluetooth handsfree : when I connect it, it's recognized as a A2DP Sink (good sound quality, but no microphone). All right. However, when I change it in the pulseaudio configuration to Headset Head Unit (HSF/HFP), it stays in A2DP, and I cannot use my microphone using bluetooth.
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23[00:09:29] <tobiasBora> I tried to see the log in /var/log/syslog :
24[00:09:30] <tobiasBora> module-bluez5-device.c: Refused to switch profile to headset_head_unit: Not connected
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27[00:10:02] <winsen> somiaj: are you there?
28[00:10:06] <tobiasBora> It sounds like I'm not the only one with this problem. However all the solution I tried doesn't work for me.
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30[00:10:22] <winsen> somiaj: I updated but nothing changed
31[00:10:24] <tobiasBora> So if anyone has an idea to solve my problem It would be great !
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41[00:16:22] <boxk> hi, I'm trying to build darktable and I get the same mistake as here replaced-url
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45[00:17:11] <petn-randall> ,v darktable
46[00:17:12] <judd> Package: darktable on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.4-1+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1.4.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.4.2-1+b3; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.4.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2.0.4-1~bpo8+1; sid: 2.0.6-1; stretch: 2.0.6-1
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48[00:18:14] <petn-randall> boxk: You could grab the version from jessie-backports, that's pretty new.
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51[00:19:49] <boxk> petn-randall: I will give a try recompiling libexit2-14 with C++11 first
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54[00:21:03] <petn-randall> boxk: Is there a reason you're compiling yourself?
55[00:21:14] <winsen> somiaj: this is the error message I get when boot on hrd drive on debian by default: "[time] time out waiting for device dev/disk...., [Depend] dependency failed/home, [Depend] dependency failed for local files ystem/, [Depend] dependency failed for swap
56[00:21:29] <boxk> petn-randall: well I like having latest git with some packages
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63[00:23:29] <boxk> petn-randall: it worked :)
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74[00:29:46] <Onemorenickname> Hello ! How can I find the right repository for a package when I don't find the package with apt-cache search ?
75[00:30:09] <Onemorenickname> I am trying to find camlp4-extra
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78[00:30:50] <TomTomTosch> ,v camlp4-extra
79[00:30:51] <judd> Package: camlp4-extra on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.12.1-4; wheezy-security: 3.12.1-4+deb7u1; jessie: 4.01.0-5
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83[00:32:30] <TomTomTosch> seems to be a virtual package in testing/sid now provided by clamp4. replaced-url
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85[00:32:47] <Onemorenickname> TomTomTosch, what is a virtual package ?
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94[00:37:35] <TomTomTosch> there is a link to the definition. i fail to see why this virtual package exists, though.
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96[00:39:08] <Onemorenickname> I see
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98[00:39:44] <Onemorenickname> what could be the explanation that i already have camlp4, but I don't have the command "camlp4of" ?
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123[00:51:53] <allizom> Onemorenickname: a cursory search reveals you need the package camlp4-extra for that
124[00:52:13] <allizom> oh, sorry, you knew already
125[00:52:48] <TomTomTosch> !debian-next
126[00:52:48] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
127[00:53:10] <TomTomTosch> Onemorenickname: if you are on stretch/sid you might get more help there ^
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138[00:58:18] <Onemorenickname> allizom, "apt-get install camlp4-extra" gets me a not found error
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140[00:58:51] <Onemorenickname> TomTomTosch, how can I know if i am on stretch/sid ?
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142[01:00:04] <TomTomTosch> Onemorenickname: by looking into /etc/apt/sources.list if you want you can paste it to paste.debian.net and show it here.
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147[01:02:26] <Onemorenickname> TomTomTosch, replaced-url
148[01:03:00] <cra1g321> looking in sources.list wouldnt truly prove that you are on a particular version of debian, as some people do sources.list incorrectly
149[01:04:05] <TomTomTosch> Onemorenickname: looks like you are on jessie, but your sources.list wasn't generated correctly by the installer. you also have some third party repos.
150[01:04:17] <TomTomTosch> !tell Onemorenickname about sources.list
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152[01:05:05] <Onemorenickname> TomTomTosch, it surprised me that the main repositories weren't there
153[01:05:13] <TomTomTosch> Onemorenickname: you can remove the deb cdrom lines and add the jessie repo and the jessie-updates one.
154[01:05:17] <Onemorenickname> why would the installer generate that file incorrectly ?
155[01:05:22] <Onemorenickname> I see
156[01:05:30] <Onemorenickname> (I got the "please insert the cdrom" many times)
157[01:05:43] <TomTomTosch> that happens sometimes. it's a bug in the installer.
158[01:05:54] <Onemorenickname> I see
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166[01:07:49] <TomTomTosch> i just assumed you were on testing in the beginning, sorry for that. camlp4-extra is included in jessie, you should be able to install it after you fix your sources.
167[01:07:51] <themill> well, «A network mirror was not selected during install.» means that the installer couldn't contact the network
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177[01:09:41] <Onemorenickname> TomTomTosch, I thought I was on the stable one, but given the errors, I came to doubt that myself
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216[01:32:02] <DopeMeston> Hi, i'm having trouble connecting to the internet. I'm on Gnome and when I look under Network in the settings it is clicked on eth0, but there is no ip
217[01:32:13] <DopeMeston> i tried doing dhclient eth0 but i get nothing
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227[01:39:35] <petn-randall> DopeMeston: Do you have a DHCP server running?
228[01:40:04] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: dhcp works on my router, i connected to it with my laptop
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230[01:40:31] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: how can i restart all the networking services on Debian? i looked under /etc/network/interfaces and eth0 is not there
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232[01:41:43] <petn-randall> DopeMeston: If you started a dhclient process by hand, it's better if you kill it. /etc/network/interfaces is the preferred configuration way for static interfaces or servers. For desktops network-manager does the job.
233[01:42:42] <petn-randall> DopeMeston: What network interface do you have? Any errors in /var/log/kern.log?
234[01:44:04] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: no errors. when i did pkill dhclient, in wireshark there was some activity. i still can't get an ip now, it stuck at DHCP request
235[01:44:33] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: i have eth0 as my network interface
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237[01:45:38] <petn-randall> DopeMeston: Yes, but what type of hardware is that?
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239[01:46:02] <petn-randall> DopeMeston: 'lspci -nn' will show you that.
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242[01:46:22] <petn-randall> DopeMeston: Any output when you run 'dmesg | grep -i missing'?
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247[01:48:06] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: Ethernet Controller: realtek semiconductor Co.. LTD RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit ethernet controller
248[01:48:07] <jorgesumle> Hi, I've just created a debian package for my new game and I think it's compliant with the debian packaging guide. How can I find a person to review it to upload it to the official repos or help me with that?
249[01:48:34] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: dmesg says "send link down event" and "sent link up event"
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252[01:49:05] <petn-randall> jorgesumle: Under what license is your game?
253[01:49:10] <jorgesumle> GPLv3
254[01:49:31] <DopeMeston> petn-randall: Oh, it just started working :) i think i won't mess with it anymore so nothing else breaks
255[01:50:24] <petn-randall> jorgesumle: You can file a ITP bug, and then try to find a sponsor in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net.
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258[01:50:43] <petn-randall> jorgesumle: Can you show me the URL of your game?
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260[01:52:27] <jorgesumle> petn-randall: Sure: replaced-url
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262[01:53:39] <jorgesumle> petn-randall: What is an ITP bug? And where can I file it?
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266[01:55:25] <petn-randall> jorgesumle: ITP is "intent to package". You file it against the WNPP ("work need and prospective packages") pseudo-package. But I'm sure the folks in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net can point you to a guide.
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270[01:57:34] <jorgesumle> Okay, I'll do that. Thanks!
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272[01:59:49] <codfection> laptops goes to suspend whenever I close lid, whether plugged or unplugged. can I make it go to sleep only when I close lid while its unplugged and do nothing if I close lid while its plugged into the charger?
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281[02:03:05] <petn-randall> codfection: Check the settings of your desktop environment, Gnome, KDE and Xfce have power management settings for that.
282[02:03:14] <codfection> iwm
283[02:03:19] <codfection> i3wm
284[02:03:44] <petn-randall> codfection: In that case IIRC it's systemd responding to the event.
285[02:04:13] <codfection> iirc?
286[02:04:42] <petn-randall> If I recall correctly
287[02:04:50] <codfection> oh
288[02:04:52] <codfection> ok
289[02:05:08] <codfection> so how cn I change
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376[02:59:33] <jak2000> !dpkg sources.list
377[02:59:33] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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385[03:04:25] <davidl2> Debian Jessie, I start X with 'startx' and try running 'glxinfo' in a terminal, get the message {{Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":1".}} ... any ideas what I'm missing?
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391[03:07:24] <mrtrump> anyone ever compare freebsd to debian?
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394[03:09:39] <preaction> compare how
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409[03:16:20] <dvs> blasphemy!
410[03:16:40] <jhebden> :)
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416[03:17:51] <AndreiHk-> hi
417[03:17:52] <AndreiHk-> E: Unable to locate package kali-archive-keyring
418[03:17:57] <AndreiHk-> somebody can help me ?
419[03:18:02] <dvs> !kali
420[03:18:02] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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435[03:29:18] <mrtrump> compare speed and fun wise
436[03:29:22] <mrtrump> of course
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444[03:33:12] <mrtrump> where is everyone?
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450[03:34:09] <jmcnaught> davidl2: can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on replaced-url
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454[03:39:24] <jak2000> jmcnaught i am happy with your help
455[03:39:29] <jak2000> my domain now worked :)
456[03:39:37] <jak2000> can you recommend me some link for test y domain?
457[03:39:40] <jak2000> for hackers?
458[03:39:59] <jmcnaught> jak2000: what do you want to test about your domain?
459[03:40:11] <jak2000> open ports
460[03:40:13] <jak2000> by sample
461[03:40:23] <jak2000> any open for anyone access it?
462[03:41:00] <jmcnaught> oh, so not the domain so much as the computer and the applications it runs?
463[03:41:07] <jak2000> yes
464[03:41:43] <jmcnaught> jak2000: for starters you can run "netstat -tulpn" to see which ports are open and the processes listening on them. You need to be root to get the process info
465[03:42:14] <jmcnaught> jak2000: from a different computer you can also run nmap (which has some GUI front ends too)
466[03:42:42] <AndreiHk-> E: Unable to locate package kali-archive-keyring , somebody help ? :)
467[03:43:03] <AndreiHk-> sorry, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
468[03:43:03] <AndreiHk-> this one
469[03:43:21] <missmbob> AndreiHk-: you were already told to ask their channel. not ours
470[03:43:24] <jak2000> jmcnaught ok
471[03:43:25] <jak2000> thanks
472[03:43:28] <jak2000> tessting
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485[03:54:07] <davidl2> replaced-url
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492[03:55:02] <davidl2> I'm using startx because gdm & kdm won't start ... looks like it might be because of no/broken GL support.
493[03:55:09] <jmcnaught> davidl2: do you have an optimus system (nvidia and intel GPUs)?
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496[03:55:17] <jmcnaught> also how did you install the nvidia drivers?
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499[03:55:50] <davidl2> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
500[03:55:50] <davidl2> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
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503[03:56:25] <davidl2> No, it's a Pentium IV ThinkCentre, built-in Intel graphics adapter.
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508[03:57:03] <davidl2> I had OpenGL working at one time, before a hard-drive crash and reinstallation.
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515[03:59:08] <jmcnaught> davidl2: there is no nvidia card? i'm asking because Xorg is trying to load the proprietary nvidia drivers
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517[03:59:33] <murphy> does someone have a failproof guide for setting up vnc on debian with plasma? im stuck with the plain grey screen even after editing my xstartup file
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522[04:00:21] <davidl2> Right, there is no NVidia card. As a shorcut for reinstallation I used a disk that had previously been in a laptop, probably with an NVidia adapter...
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524[04:00:30] <jmcnaught> murphy: doesn't KDE have a built-in VNC server that you can turn on in its settings?
525[04:00:43] <murphy> good question
526[04:00:47] <murphy> let me google that
527[04:01:12] <jmcnaught> davidl2: see for example line 229 of your paste. It's trying to load the nvidia GLX library, not the default open source one
528[04:01:35] <jmcnaught> davidl2: look at the nvidia packages that are installed: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
529[04:01:38] <Hello71> jmcnaught: pretty sure that's for X sessions
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531[04:02:06] <jmcnaught> Hello71: what is?
532[04:02:27] <Hello71> the KDE VNC server
533[04:02:57] <murphy> kde has Krfb
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535[04:03:30] <jmcnaught> what else besides an X session want to use VNC for?
536[04:03:31] <murphy> looks like its more of something where you have to send an invite as opposed to a service you run
537[04:03:48] <davidl2> replaced-url
538[04:04:07] <Hello71> I mean real X sessions, not rendering to framebuffers.
539[04:06:16] <murphy> is it me or does VNC config files seem really dumb?
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541[04:06:48] <murphy> if i already am running a windows manager, why doesnt it just default to that?
542[04:06:52] <jmcnaught> davidl2: you can use glx-alternative-nvidia to select with GLX implementation should be used. If you're keeping this drive in that computer you probably also want to purge all of those nvidia packages.
543[04:07:13] <davidl2> $ sudo glx-alternative-nvidia
544[04:07:13] <davidl2> sudo: glx-alternative-nvidia: command not found
545[04:07:13] <davidl2> $ sudo glx-alternative-nvidia
546[04:07:13] <davidl2> sudo: glx-alternative-nvidia: command not found
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549[04:07:54] <jmcnaught> murphy: are you trying to run VNC on the network allowing users to connect to a display manager, and then log into a KDE plasma session? Or do you want to share your user's already running KDE plasma session?
550[04:07:55] <davidl2> (sorry, clipboard if funny too?)
551[04:09:29] <murphy> honestly... i'll take either at this point. but i would prefer to be able to just run VNC as a service to create a new session
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553[04:09:44] <murphy> because i might not always be logged in
554[04:09:59] <jmcnaught> davidl2: oh i see (just read description of glx-alternative-nvidia package).. it allows you to use "update-alternatives --config glx" to pick which one to use. ('man update-alternatives' to learn about that system)
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556[04:10:36] <murphy> i did echo $desktop_session
557[04:10:50] <murphy> and it came back with lightdm-xession
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559[04:11:37] <murphy> so i tried adding that to ~/.vnc/xstartup
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561[04:11:53] <murphy> that should work right?
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565[04:14:31] <davidl2> Thanks! fixed OpenGL.
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568[04:14:49] <jmcnaught> davidl2: nice!
569[04:15:22] <jmcnaught> murphy: i don't know how to do that. it would help others in the channel help you if you provide some details, including the vnc server you're trying to configure.
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576[04:22:19] <NotJiCarrey> ok, so I tried upgrading from wheezy to jessie, but it hung at udev
577[04:23:00] <NotJiCarrey> someone recommended rebooting, and not it hangs at A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces
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579[04:23:19] <NotJiCarrey> anyone know how to fix this?
580[04:23:44] <NotJiCarrey> yeah, vagueish, i know, but don't know what info is needed yet
581[04:24:10] <NotJiCarrey> i can get into single-user mode, but no idea what to do next
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591[04:30:35] <murphy> im trying to use tightvnc
592[04:31:53] <th0r> murphy, I am not sure you can put lightdm into the xstartup file for vnc. Lightdm handles login and you have to already be logged in to get to the xstartup file
593[04:32:32] <th0r> murphy, when I was running vnc I put 'xfce4-session' in mine. Not sure what you need for the desktop you want to run.
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595[04:33:45] <murphy> ok let me try that thanks
596[04:34:19] <th0r> murphy, what are you trying to do? I found vnc a bit slow and clumsy for day to day use. there are other options depending on what you want to accomplish
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598[04:34:47] <murphy> be able to mange remotely though the desktop
599[04:35:39] <th0r> murphy, do you need the full desktop? I manage my servers using X-forwarding via ssh. It has the advantage of merging the remote applications into the local desktop. Much faster than vnc, although it has some limits
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602[04:36:36] <murphy> what kind of limits?
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606[04:37:46] <th0r> murphy, most notably I don't think you can cut and paste between local and remote. I do believe vnc supports that, but I have found no such option in x-forwarding. But I only deal with files and structures within the server, so that isn't an issue
607[04:38:44] <th0r> murphy, also, you don't have a 'start menu' like on the desktop. You invoke the software by name from a cli.
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609[04:39:22] <th0r> murphy, you use the same desktop software, but don't have the full desktop (menus, taskbar, wallpaper, etc)
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616[04:41:58] <murphy> how does that work for gui apps?
617[04:42:14] <murphy> it forwards the display over ssh?
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619[04:43:04] <th0r> murphy, it forwards the application gui over ssh. Much less info gets transferred than with vnc so it is much quicker. The application looks like it is running on your local machine, but all load/save etc are on the remote machine
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621[04:44:06] <th0r> murphy, you need X installed on the remote machine, but don't have to run it. I have my servers booting to a cli
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623[04:44:55] <th0r> murphy, if you are running linux locally you don't have to install anything special, just 'ssh -X user@remote' and then type the name of the application (pcmanfm, for instance)
624[04:45:25] <th0r> murphy, if you are running windows locally, install xming
625[04:45:55] <murphy> it will be from osx and linux
626[04:46:07] <murphy> over over a vpn
627[04:47:29] <th0r> murphy, not sure about osx. Never had the resources to buy apple
628[04:48:08] <th0r> murphy, years ago I did a bit of research into remote access, with a friend in Ireland accessing my US server.
629[04:48:32] <th0r> murphy, X-forwarding performed best, followed by NX, and vnc third
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631[04:48:51] <murphy> youre not missing much with apple now. osx is nice but the hardware is overpriced
632[04:49:00] <murphy> whats NX?
633[04:49:04] <th0r> murphy, always has been <smile>.
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637[04:49:38] <th0r> I mentioned NX earlier. There used to be a commercial package (free, but closed source, not foss) called NX or NXMachine.
638[04:50:01] <th0r> you run the NX server on the remote machine, and run the NX client locally. It was like vnc on steroids
639[04:50:17] <th0r> don't know if it is even available any more
640[04:50:28] <murphy> interesting never heard of that
641[04:50:48] <murphy> it would be nice if there was just something like logmein for linux
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646[04:52:45] <th0r> murphy, I think this is it....replaced-url
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650[04:53:35] <th0r> murphy, yeah...according to wikipedia NoMachine is the owner of the NX technology
651[04:53:41] <NotJiCarrey> think i got it. i use iscsi, and for some reason it wasn't initiating
652[04:54:09] <NotJiCarrey> temporarily commented the wait for iscsi line in /etc/network/interfaces and it finished
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675[05:11:33] <mrtrump> openssl 1.1?
676[05:11:36] <mrtrump> comgin soon to deb?
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746[05:56:44] <NotJiCarrey> I finished upgrading from wheezy to jessie, but now the files in /var/replaced-url
747[05:57:13] <missmbob> NotJiCarrey: right. you need to read the release notes. talks about it breaking configuration files in apache
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749[05:57:31] <mrtrump> ha ha
750[05:57:35] <missmbob> NotJiCarrey: replaced-url
751[05:57:38] <mrtrump> dump your data
752[05:57:41] <mrtrump> nuke box
753[05:57:45] <mrtrump> bring data back
754[05:57:46] <mrtrump> :)
755[05:57:51] <mrtrump> upgrade heh
756[05:57:55] <mrtrump> adventure heh
757[05:58:01] <mrtrump> a jedi craves not these things
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759[05:58:14] <missmbob> i'm sure a jedi would know to read release notes
760[05:58:27] <mrtrump> release notes are for fags
761[05:58:31] <mrtrump> just nuke box
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763[05:58:38] <mrtrump> its the only way to be sure
764[05:58:42] <mrtrump> nuke it from orbit
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767[05:59:23] <themill> mrtrump: that's enough.
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774[06:02:50] <NotJiCarrey> missmbob: i'm looking, but i'm not seeing how it changed
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777[06:03:20] <NotJiCarrey> also, everything looked ok after the upgrade, so i took my meds, not thinking clearly
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779[06:03:32] <NotJiCarrey> just noticed the files aren't accessable
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781[06:03:45] <themill> There's lots to fix with apache after wheezy→jessie
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783[06:04:05] <NotJiCarrey> i don't actually have a site, just files accessed on the intranet
784[06:04:17] <themill> For your specific case, the default DocumentRoot changed -- more details in /usr/share/doc/apache2/NEWS.Debian.gz
785[06:04:31] <NotJiCarrey> thank you themill
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787[06:06:49] <epsilon> damn arm64
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793[06:07:57] <epsilon> 3rd time I accidentaly download arm64 netinstaller instead of amd64 and wondering why the mashine isn't booting
794[06:08:07] <NotJiCarrey> works now, thanks again themill
795[06:08:12] <themill> np
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797[06:08:35] <NotJiCarrey> geez, meds + upgrading DO NOT mix
798[06:08:36] <NotJiCarrey> lol
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823[06:30:32] <OS-20398> !core
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854[06:52:29] <xsmltx> Hi, anyone can help please, all the screen is not displayed on full screen, on fit to screen... Thank you.
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859[06:54:55] <sm00th> xsmltx, change your screen resolution
860[06:55:20] <sm00th> or your monitor set up, check
861[06:55:43] <xsmltx> sm00th, I've tried but, it still the same, it is a tablet, and the only environment is fluxbox...
862[06:56:05] <sm00th> oh sorry i know nothing about neither.
863[06:56:54] <pnorman> I'm looking at installing debian testing with zfs and can't find any documentation. I looked at replaced-url
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865[06:57:30] <jmcnaught> ,v zfs-dkms
866[06:57:31] <judd> Package: zfs-dkms on amd64 -- jessie-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.8-1~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 0.6.5.8-1; stretch/contrib: 0.6.5.8-1
867[06:57:56] <jmcnaught> pnorman: ^^ that's the package name, it's in contrib.
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870[06:59:54] <pnorman> jmcnaught: yes - but searching for that doesn't help either. Do you think the zol wiki guide would work if the deb steps were replaced by enabling contrib and installing zfs-dkms?
871[07:00:06] <jmcnaught> i doubt you'll be able to install use ZFS for the root file system. Also Debian testing has its own channel #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
872[07:00:58] <pnorman> ah, I'll ask there. I thought I had joined it but missed the server part
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885[07:11:32] <jim> I'm looking for javascript interpreter as one that can be in a terminal, like bash, perl or python... I looked at apt-cache search nodejs, and there is a package called that, but I don't know if that's the right thing to get, given the description from apt-cache... is such a thing packaged?
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891[07:16:31] <jmcnaught> jim: nodejs is what you're looking for. be careful, it does not get security support so should not be used with untrusted code, or hooked up to the internet
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893[07:18:39] <jim> I decided to take a js course from codecademy
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895[07:18:48] <jim> that's what it would be used for
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898[07:19:25] <pnorman> jim: nodejs is a javascript interpreter, but not the only one. the course should say what to do to run code.
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901[07:21:51] <jim> the course is a website, that provides the interpreter through it
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915[07:28:55] <jmcnaught> jim: check out the scratchpad in firefox (shift+f4 or under the developer menu)
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917[07:33:08] <jim> jmcnaught, good to know... thanks
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949[07:55:08] <jim> do recent gcc -c not do position independent code, and less recent do?
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968[08:08:13] <jak2000> friendsss
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976[08:11:16] <jak2000> how to start linux witha minimal load files? i can choose asssk me a root paswword for maintenance mode, y type but not accept
977[08:11:18] <jak2000> thankss
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981[08:13:46] <jmcnaught> jak2000: i don't understand. are you trying to boot Debian into maintenance or rescue mode and your root password is not being accepted?
982[08:13:55] <jak2000> yess
983[08:14:00] <jak2000> i am on a vps
984[08:14:12] <jak2000> i added a line on /etc/fstab for mount a partition
985[08:14:19] <jak2000> but no formated... i think thisss is the problem
986[08:14:27] <jak2000> i can access to grub options
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990[08:16:10] <jmcnaught> you should always test mounting new lines in fstab before rebooting. Can you edit the linux command line (in grub) and add the number 1 to the end? This will boot you into the rescue mode
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992[08:17:26] <jak2000> ok
993[08:17:27] <xsmltx> Hi, anyone can help me please to use the whole screen of the 10.1" tablet with other resolution than 1920x1080, or the only way is to do "software stretching with xrandr" or "rescale the UI" ? Fluxbox is the only installed environment on a Lubuntu-core minimal mini.iso command line installation.
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995[08:18:34] <jak2000> jmacnaught you mean: setparams 'Advanced Optionss for debian GNU/Linux' 1 ?
996[08:19:35] <jak2000> replaced-url
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998[08:20:49] <jmcnaught> jak2000: which line did you hit 'e' on?
999[08:21:25] <jak2000> ssee the image please
1000[08:22:09] <jmcnaught> xsmltx: Lubuntu and other Debian derivatives are not supported here. You should ask in #ubuntu
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1002[08:22:24] <jmcnaught> jak2000: which line did you hit 'e' on? <--- this is my follow up question after looking at the image
1003[08:22:46] <xsmltx> Thank you jmcnaught
1004[08:22:47] <jmcnaught> jak2000: you should escape out of that, select the normal/default boot option, and hit 'e' on that
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1006[08:23:24] <jak2000> ye ssi am on here
1007[08:23:30] <jak2000> first line:
1008[08:23:42] <jak2000> setparams 'Advanced Optionss for debian GNU/Linux'
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1011[08:23:52] <jak2000> normal option:
1012[08:24:00] <jak2000> setparams 'Debian GNU/Linux'
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1014[08:25:08] <jmcnaught> jak2000: yeah, setparams 'Debian GNU/Linux' is what you want. look for the line that says linux, put a 1 on the end, then press ctrl+x to boot
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1019[08:26:22] <jmcnaught> heh, apparently grub2 (in a KVM VM) maxes out a CPU if you leave it on the edit screen.
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1024[08:28:19] <Engine40> hi, i got a general question, which kernel is best for gaming?
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1026[08:28:44] <jak2000> linux /vmlinuz..... quiet <-here add 1 ?
1027[08:28:45] <jmcnaught> Engine40: which options are you choosing from?
1028[08:29:16] <jmcnaught> jak2000: yes, and a space between quiet and 1. You can also remove the word quiet to see boot messages
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1030[08:30:10] <jak2000> same messsage
1031[08:30:11] <Engine40> jmcnaught: im on the latest debian release, im planning to compile my own kernel designed for gaming
1032[08:30:20] <jak2000> PRess Ctrl+d or give root passsword :(
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1036[08:31:29] <jmcnaught> Engine40: if the stock jessie 3.16 kernel supports all of your hardware, that's what i would use
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1038[08:31:40] <jmcnaught> there are also newer kernels in jessie-backports
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1041[08:32:09] <ANTI-torture> hi
1042[08:32:34] <ANTI-torture> wake up !________________________________________
1043[08:33:02] <ANTI-torture> psychiatry is: FRAUD .
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1046[08:33:28] <ANTI-torture> VISIT WAYNEWAMSAY.COM
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1048[08:33:36] <jmcnaught> !ops ANTI-torture
1049[08:33:36] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: ANTI-torture
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1052[08:34:18] <jmcnaught> jak2000: reboot, edit the linux command line like before. this time add 'systemd.debug-shell' instead. This will start a root shell on tty9. Change the password, log in another way, then "systemctl stop debug-shell" to close the root shell on tty9.
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1057[08:35:17] <jmcnaught> jak2000: you can read /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian about this
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1066[08:37:08] <jak2000> thisss is on linux line?
1067[08:37:11] <jak2000> at the end?
1068[08:37:23] <jmcnaught> jak2000: yes
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1071[08:39:43] <jak2000> systemd.debug-shell
1072[08:39:48] <jak2000> same :(
1073[08:40:10] <jmcnaught> jak2000: go to VT 9 with alt+f9
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1075[08:40:57] <jak2000> ok
1076[08:41:05] <jak2000> edit fstab and restart right?
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1080[08:41:35] <jmcnaught> you may also want to change the root password
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1084[08:42:08] <jak2000> OK
1085[08:42:10] <jim> jelly, bocaneri (who is here btw) has suggested a year-long on all those antis, on sight
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1089[08:43:45] <jim> jelly, that was a couple weeks ago, I dunno if things changed
1090[08:44:33] <jak2000> jmcnaught done
1091[08:44:39] <jak2000> now i try format but cant
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1093[08:45:12] <jmcnaught> format what?
1094[08:45:51] <jak2000> see please: replaced-url
1095[08:46:16] <jak2000> i have a hidden space see?
1096[08:46:22] <jak2000> in /dev/sda3
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1098[08:47:31] <jmcnaught> jak2000: no, your /dev/sda3 is used for an LVM volume group
1099[08:47:43] <jak2000> how to format it?
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1102[08:48:42] <jmcnaught> jak2000: can you show 'pvs', 'vgs', 'lvs' commands?
1103[08:49:15] <jmcnaught> jak2000: also please stop using pastebin.com as it has adds and frequently asks people to solve captchas to view the paste.
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1105[08:49:28] <jak2000> wich passtebin recommend me?
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1107[08:49:55] <jmcnaught> s/adds/ads/ # /me can spell. replaced-url
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1110[08:50:57] <jak2000> replaced-url
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1112[08:52:26] <jmcnaught> jak2000: right. /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda5 together form the LVM volume group localhost-vg. That VG has two logical volumes, root and swap_1.
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1115[08:53:23] <jmcnaught> jak2000: sda3 and sda5 are already in use by LVM. If you want to learn about LVM, the best introduction to it is this manual which should be mostly relevant for jessie: replaced-url
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1120[08:53:35] <jak2000> ok
1121[08:53:42] <jak2000> reading thanks
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1131[08:58:38] <lozusr> replaced-url
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1134[08:59:44] <jmcnaught> !ops lozusr is spam
1135[08:59:44] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: lozusr is spam
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1140[09:00:56] <bocaneri> jim, I wouldn't recommend discussing such matters in public.
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1144[09:03:14] <jelly> there is a time and place for everything, and it's called "college"
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1148[09:04:56] <CutMeOwnThroat> that's a bit of a depressing thought
1149[09:05:35] <bocaneri> Mmmm... blue-eyed college girls with big honkers and long legs who love beer...
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1152[09:05:57] <jelly> wait, this isn't -offtopic?
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1156[09:06:52] <bocaneri> ;)
1157[09:07:16] <morf> i'm sure it's not sir, don't be rude! :)
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1159[09:07:46] <morf> i bet those college girls use debian for sure :)
1160[09:08:06] <babilen> Why don't we just drop that topic?
1161[09:08:15] * bocaneri is thinking more in terms of "Hannah Montana Linux"
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1185[09:18:14] <jak2000> jmcnaught continue with recover the space
1186[09:18:14] <jak2000> but its ok, thanks
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1209[09:25:45] <jmcnaught> jak2000: there is no space to recover
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1220[09:30:26] <jmcnaught> jak2000: ok i see it. your root LV is 28.61g, but your root fs reported by df is only 9.1g.
1221[09:30:51] <jmcnaught> jak2000: it looks like the filesystem is not using the full space available in its logical volume
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1234[09:37:51] <morf> /3/2
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1242[09:39:38] <eumel> /3/2
1243[09:39:44] <eumel> clear
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1358[10:30:06] <lostdata> hi all. I need some help. I've tried to resize my root partition using GParted. the computer got shuted down and now I can't access the home.
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1360[10:30:37] <lostdata> There is just two files in the home. I can't recall the extention exactly. it was .h or something.
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1363[10:30:55] <lostdata> It includes very important data to me. Any idea how to fix it?
1364[10:31:13] <lostdata> Gparted is currently checking the partition but I don't know if that helps.
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1376[10:34:14] <lostdata> I'd appreciate any help.
1377[10:35:11] <lostdata> It was at resizing stage when this happened.
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1381[10:36:42] <Iridos> I don't think you'll appreciate it… "restore from backup"
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1385[10:37:19] <lostdata> Iridos: there's no backup.:(
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1388[10:37:45] <Iridos> then probably you didn't value that data so much
1389[10:37:53] <Iridos> what filesystems were those?
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1391[10:38:02] <lostdata> ext4
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1396[10:39:11] <Iridos> try to mount /home manually. That probably gives an error in dmesg. If you only see two files, I doubt home was mounted
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1400[10:39:49] <lostdata> ok. Gotta wait for gparted to finish.
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1402[10:40:16] <Iridos> but overall I guess it's gone and you can only (maybe) restore single files of a known type with something like magicrescue or so
1403[10:40:18] <lostdata> Iridos: how to mount a directory from a partition though?
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1406[10:41:17] <momken> hello, is this the main channel for debian server distro?
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1408[10:41:39] <lostdata> yes momken
1409[10:41:49] <evilman_work|2> momken: just ask the questions :)
1410[10:42:10] <lostdata> the issue seems to be blocks claimed from multiple places or something.
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1415[10:43:15] <momken> evilman_work|2, I don't have a question. I just need to decide between Ubuntu-server LTS, Debian and CentOS for my VPS server.
1416[10:43:54] <momken> Hard decision, as I am a hardcore ubuntu desktop user and my vps is not very critical
1417[10:43:58] <evilman_work|2> momken: chose distro, that are being used your friends, who can help you :)
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1419[10:44:11] <evilman_work|2> **used by your friends
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1421[10:45:45] <momken> evilman_work|2, I always use Ubuntu and don't have problem with it. But my friend (who I share the VPS with him) is a fedora user!
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1425[10:46:45] <OS-24695> /msg NickServ identify sh!v0
1426[10:46:52] <OS-24695> /msg NickServ identify sh1v0m
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1429[10:47:25] <evilman_work|2> momken: choose what you know.
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1431[10:48:13] <MarcoNL> I'm looking for a way to install jessie on my laptop, but I want encryption for both disks in it and use guided lvm partitioning. Someone to help me with that?
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1437[10:51:37] <evilman_work|2> MarcoNL: yep. just ask the questions. do you have an experience in LVM?
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1440[10:53:59] <lostdata> Gparted prints such lines: Illegal block number passed to ext2fs_test_block_bitmap #3601002943 for multiply claimed block map
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1445[10:55:23] <MarcoNL> I do have an experience in LVM, but to be honest am the lazy one. So that's why I wanted to try the guided partitioning. But for some reason I don't know how to set it so that both disks are used for encryption
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1447[10:57:18] <evilman_work|2> MarcoNL: lvm uses other idealogy. you really should read about it. and you should have unencrypted boot partition for grub files and kernel image.
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1449[10:57:45] <eumel> (msg dpkg jessie
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1452[10:59:55] <evilman_work|2> MarcoNL: read about LVM: what is the physical volumes, volume groups, logical volume groups etc
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1462[11:01:29] <MarcoNL> never mind
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1491[11:19:59] <foetus> i had problems shutting down my machines using jessie with systemd, problem was symlink /sbin/halt -> /bin/systemctl, changed /sbin/halt -> poweroff and everything is working now. Problem by design?
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1497[11:25:12] <Iridos> file /sbin/poweroff --> /sbin/poweroff: symbolic link to /bin/systemctl
1498[11:25:28] <Iridos> oh, he's gone… but I kind of doubt that story
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1513[11:32:39] <vev> when i try to install debian via usb stick i get "secure boot fail"
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1517[11:33:58] <vev> do i have to modify smthg in the bios?
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1523[11:37:24] <jelly> vev: yes you do, debian 8 installer does not support secure boot
1524[11:37:58] <vev> so i have to disable secure boot?
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1527[11:38:57] <KindOne> replaced-url
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1530[11:39:50] <vev> any url to explain what to do?
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1532[11:41:15] <morf> damn
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1534[11:41:38] <morf> wiki.debian.org is not working in my network for some reason :/ for everybody else does
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1536[11:42:18] <jelly> vev: sorry, no idea on what precisely has to be done
1537[11:42:28] <vev> ok merci
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1539[11:42:33] <morf> vev: in bios
1540[11:42:53] <morf> vev: if you don't have too old machine, it's called legacy bios or whatever similar name
1541[11:43:09] <vev> recent machine
1542[11:43:12] <morf> you can boot secure / legacy / both (however depends on bios)
1543[11:43:34] <vev> have to choose legacy?
1544[11:43:42] <vev> i have to choose legacy?
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1546[11:43:55] <morf> yes, but be aware win10 won't work on recent machines (after win10 release) without secure boot
1547[11:44:11] <morf> bit offtopic but good to know for dual boot if you need it
1548[11:44:17] <morf> yes legacy = old bios
1549[11:44:19] <vev> idk
1550[11:44:22] <vev> ah ok
1551[11:45:05] <vev> best solution is to del win10
1552[11:45:31] <vev> merci morf
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1555[11:46:25] <Mathisen_> hello anyway to reboot debian machine.. so that i dont need to type passfrase for encryption ? im not at the location and i need to reboot the machine
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1560[11:50:18] <Help_me> hi all... I maybe are the most stupid ass in the world when i ask in here. but i need an debian 7.iso that are an complete setut. not 3 disk iso as the dvd or 11 disk iso for cd.
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1564[11:50:42] <Help_me> its for an esxi setup
1565[11:51:17] <vev> Help_me, take only the first iso
1566[11:51:30] <Help_me> vev but the other 2 then?
1567[11:51:43] <julius_> hi
1568[11:51:48] <Help_me> hi julius_
1569[11:51:54] <vev> no need
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1571[11:52:26] <Help_me> vev: talk about a brainf**k! why show 3 dvd's`?
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1573[11:52:35] <julius_> i got a fresh drupal 8.2.0 installation here on a jessie system, with the default theme and no content on the page the site takes ~3s to load...even when reloading it. this is akward slow :( could this be a debian problem?
1574[11:52:56] <vev> it s just extra
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1577[11:53:56] <Help_me> vev u are the savior of the world!
1578[11:54:10] * Help_me sends a beer to vev!
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1581[11:55:51] <morf> julius_: this is not debian related all that much, rest assure debian doesn't come performance optimized by default (you should optimize db, php, web server, caches etc), then it will get fast
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1585[11:56:33] <julius_> any idea how to troubleshoot which part is slow?
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1589[11:58:58] <evilman_work|2> julius_: google by 'drupal slow' phrase.
1590[11:59:08] <julius_> ok
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1599[12:04:59] <morf> julius_: "drupal performance optimization" or "... ... tuning" etc gl (i think they would help you more on #drupal)
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1606[12:06:20] <julius_> yes thanks
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1626[12:14:01] <deianws> hi all, i have a problem after updating this morning
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1628[12:14:25] <deianws> when i update via 'apt' it only updates the multimedia repo, none of the debian ones
1629[12:14:32] <iLogic> hey guys, i've installed a lsh server to able to connect from a mac os 9 machine and after that ssh stoped working on both android apps that used to connect to it.. when I do systemctl list-units only lsh shows up, do I need to disable lsh/enable ssh to connect on android?
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1651[12:20:26] <deianws> illogic: are you using the right ssh profile?
1652[12:20:46] <deianws> as i understand it, you can select different ssh keys to use
1653[12:21:09] <deianws> (i'm not an expert though, thought I'd just chime in with a suggestion)
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1663[12:23:43] <ldvd85> Hi guys. I'm a italian Debian Jessie User
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1665[12:24:31] <crash_> ok
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1667[12:25:58] <evilman_work|2> ldvd85: if you have the questions - ask.
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1674[12:28:42] <deianws> why does my debian repositories not update via apt-get
1675[12:28:51] <deianws> they are in the sources.list
1676[12:29:09] <eumel> there could be various reasons
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1680[12:29:46] <deianws> i made an update this morning, and it happened after that, also my kde/plasma taskbar is gone
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1683[12:30:52] <eumel> which tool are you using for the update? any error messages?
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1686[12:31:43] <ldvd85> I'don't have any techinacal question. I want to know other debian users and learn English
1687[12:32:08] <babilen> ldvd85: You might want to join #debian-offtopic then
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1689[12:32:12] <babilen> (or ##english)
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1694[12:33:14] <deianws> i am using apt
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1696[12:33:28] <ldvd85> babilen ok thank you
1697[12:34:47] <xsmltx> Hi, tell me please is there any way to enable right click on a touch screen device with Fluxbox the only installed environment? Thank you.
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1713[12:46:32] <eumel> @deianws: any error messages
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1718[12:50:37] <deianws> i'm typing 'sudo apt update' to update, and it updates only my debian multimedia repository
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1722[12:51:14] <deianws> something in the latest update (or kernel) has changed apt's ability to read repositories that i had working before
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1726[12:52:10] <eumel> can you check the repositories contained in /etc/apt/sources.list? maybe you're missing the system's repositories
1727[12:53:00] <deianws> i can pastebin what i have
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1733[12:55:37] <deianws> replaced-url
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1735[12:56:34] <deianws> sorry, it's working now
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1737[12:57:20] <deianws> that is very weird
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1742[12:59:04] <deianws> ok, the problem is, when i update using either apt or apt-get in a console (that hasn't got an x server running), it doesn't seem to update all repos
1743[12:59:18] <deianws> but if i run it from konsole it shows updating of all repos
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1758[13:07:37] <deianws> and now it's doing it again
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1760[13:08:11] <eumel> very strange, never heard about a different behaviuor caused by running an X-Server
1761[13:08:39] <deianws> now i think it's not that, it seems maybe the servers are intermittent today
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1763[13:09:05] <deianws> but it doesn't even try to download anything from them, if it did it would say can't reach server wouldn't it
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1767[13:10:01] <eumel> yes i think so. can you try another repository server? maybe ftp.de.debian.org?
1768[13:10:53] <eumel> if the problem persists using another server we'd figured out that the repo's aren't causing the error
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1774[13:13:22] <deianws> ok, so if i browse from my broswer to replaced-url
1775[13:13:47] <deianws> but if i sudo apt update i get only:deian@debian:~$ sudo apt-get update
1776[13:13:47] <deianws> Hit:1 replaced-url
1777[13:13:47] <deianws> Hit:2 replaced-url
1778[13:13:47] <deianws> Hit:3 replaced-url
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1780[13:14:09] <babilen> :(
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1782[13:14:26] <babilen> → replaced-url
1783[13:14:31] <deianws> the server works
1784[13:14:32] <jelly> dpkg, tell deianws about debian-next
1785[13:14:32] <babilen> dpkg: show sources.list
1786[13:14:44] <babilen> dpkg: show sources.list
1787[13:14:44] <dpkg> Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
1788[13:15:00] <babilen> deianws: Include ^^^ in your paste and lets continue in #debian-next
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1790[13:15:12] <deianws> ok, see you there
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1842[13:36:14] <eumel> my connection broke down, any progress?
1843[13:36:25] <eumel> german servers are okay, just made an update
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1863[13:48:00] <petn-randall> eumel: deianws moved on to #debian-next for debugging, as they are running testing.
1864[13:48:22] <Exploit> good
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1879[13:55:46] <eumel> thank you
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1921[14:15:48] <smile123> hello
1922[14:15:50] <smile123> how can format usb stick boot ?
1923[14:15:52] <smile123> (i want format usb-stick-boot to normal usb stick)
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1929[14:17:08] <eumel> dd the iso image to the usb stick
1930[14:17:55] <eumel> or use fdisk
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1937[14:19:43] <frostschutz> smile123, wipefs -a /dev/usbstick??* /dev/usbstick, {fdisk/cfdisk/parted} /dev/usbstick, mkfs.{ext4/vfat/ntfs} /dev/usbstick1, mount /dev/usbstick1 /mnt/somewhere ...?
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1944[14:21:15] <__marco> Hi
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1947[14:22:03] <__marco> Someone has experience on configuring the network in VMware
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1950[14:22:25] <jelly> vsphere? esx? workstation?
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1953[14:22:35] <__marco> jelly: vsphere
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1957[14:23:05] <jelly> once you put the VM into the correct VLAN(s), the same as on a physical machine
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1959[14:24:35] <__marco> jelly: sorry, I am a noob with VMware. I gave the vm to a data center that uploaded the machine in vsphere. I think they put it in the right VLAN
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1962[14:25:07] <__marco> the ip should be static and the configuration pretty forward (debian side) but it does not work
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1967[14:25:52] <__marco> They just said that they changed the network adapter and used vmxnet3
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1969[14:26:08] <jelly> __marco: that ought to work with debian 8
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1972[14:26:48] <__marco> jelly: the open-vm-tools are not installed. Could be this the problem?
1973[14:26:49] <jelly> __marco: can you show a screenshot of "ip a" output and "cat /etc/network/interfaces"?
1974[14:26:52] <jelly> no
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1976[14:27:11] <jelly> don't need open-vm-tools just to get networking running
1977[14:27:30] <jercos> ^that'd be b43 levels of irony
1978[14:27:33] <__marco> jelly: I did not configured /etc/network/interfaces. Just tried plain ifconfig and route
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1980[14:27:55] <jelly> show your work, then
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1984[14:28:16] <jelly> __marco: show the output of "ip a" and "ip r"
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1988[14:28:29] <__marco> jelly: yes, just a second please
1989[14:28:32] <jelly> use picpaste.com or imgur.com
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1993[14:28:53] <jelly> __marco: and "uname -a" while you're at it
1994[14:29:12] <jelly> which debian release do you have installed?
1995[14:29:19] <__marco> jelly: debian stable
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1997[14:30:00] <__marco> jelly: I am sorry. I cannot get access to the machine right now. I need few minutes
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1999[14:30:39] <__marco> jelly: but I remarked that there is an network adapter: eth0, even thou the module vmxnet3 was not loaded
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2002[14:31:28] <__marco> jelly: could you confirm that I cannot open the web console in linux?
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2004[14:31:45] <__marco> because I have to use the machine from a college
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2008[14:35:41] <xsmltx> Hi, tell me please is there any way to enable right click to use it on the touch screen device with Lubunut-core minimal installation and Fluxbox the only installed environment? I've been trying with easystroke, but no result yet. Thank you.
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2017[14:39:25] <Lowl3v3l> xsdg, lubuntu is not debian.
2018[14:39:35] <Lowl3v3l> xsmltx, lubuntu is not debian
2019[14:39:41] <Lowl3v3l> sry xsdg , misstabbed^^
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2022[14:40:22] <xsmltx> Lowl3v3l, excuse me, wrong channel....
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2026[14:43:21] <jelly> __marco: Avoid it. Web console works, partially, only from Chrome, and it has to be started with English locale (env LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 google-chrome)
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2029[14:44:15] <jelly> __marco: for some reason it's more stable on ubuntu 16.04 lts than on debian 8, with exact same google-chrome-stable version
2030[14:44:50] <jelly> and sometimes it inputs things wrong
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2036[14:46:44] <__marco> jelly: I have to use it, because I have no other access to the machine and, because of this, I have to post a photo of the commands
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2040[14:47:48] <jelly> or tell the admin to reconfigure back to e1000
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2044[14:48:21] <xsmltx> sdasdas
2045[14:48:21] <xsmltx> d
2046[14:48:21] <xsmltx> s
2047[14:48:43] <jelly> xsmltx: you're live with #Debian
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2050[14:49:14] <xsmltx> My aplogizes jelly
2051[14:49:45] <__marco> jelly: replaced-url
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2063[14:54:58] <__marco> jelly: ip 192.168.89.15, gw 192.168.89.1, really simple but I cannot ping neither the gw nor the other hosts
2064[14:55:55] <jelly> __marco: that looks about right. If tcpdump is installed, run "tcpdump -ni eth0", leave it listening for 30-60seconds, is there any traffic?
2065[14:56:49] <__marco> it is not installed. I will contact the data center
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2067[14:57:02] <__marco> jelly: thanks for looking on this
2068[14:57:08] <jelly> __marco: after you unsuccessfully ping 192.168.89.1, is there an entry for it in "arp -an" otuput?
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2074[14:58:11] <__marco> ? 192.168.89.1 at (incomplete) in eth0 (manual copy and paste)
2075[14:58:46] <jelly> so no arp reply at all, that does not bode well
2076[14:58:54] <__marco> I don't know if I can configure the network from vsphere web client
2077[14:59:11] <jelly> depends on the permissions they gave you (probably not)
2078[14:59:20] <__marco> not many
2079[14:59:32] <__marco> I will contact them then
2080[14:59:36] <jelly> right
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2147[15:33:54] <__marco> jelly: If you are interested, they putted the vm in the wrong vlan... :-(
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2187[15:52:06] <CtrlC> Can doing systemctl restart ssh.service in a ssh session cause any problem on a VPS?
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2194[15:55:08] <jelly> CtrlC: it shouldn't, if it does that's a bug
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2198[15:55:59] <CtrlC> Did it and I didn't notice anything. I was expecting a disconnection at least.
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2205[15:57:40] <jelly> that's how it's supposed to be
2206[15:57:56] <jelly> current sessions are untouched
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2208[15:58:20] <morf> it's survives short interruption
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2222[16:02:08] <jelly> morf: you should be able to shut down the service, current sshd children will live as long as nothing else makes them die
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2279[16:25:01] <DammitJim> is ssh -p 443 -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=1 -o PreferredAuthentications=keyboard-interactive,password -l myftp myftp1test.mydomain.com -s sftp
2280[16:25:09] <DammitJim> is that sftp or is that ssh?
2281[16:25:19] <DammitJim> I"m confused as to what this guy is trying to do to connect to my server
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2283[16:25:41] <greycat> -s May be used to request invocation of a subsystem on the remote system.
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2285[16:25:48] <greycat> That's not an option I have ever used before.
2286[16:25:55] <DammitJim> is that different than just calling sftp directly?
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2289[16:26:15] <greycat> I have no clue. Ask #openssh or test it yourself.
2290[16:26:19] <DammitJim> thanks!
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2313[16:35:13] <veek> why isn't swap being used
2314[16:35:17] <ToHellWithGA> it feels very counterintuitive that mdadm setup during a netinst fails to mention that all partitions in the array other than the first must be manually added later.
2315[16:35:49] <veek> i have 2G ram and a 4G swapfile, swap seems to be under used
2316[16:35:56] <ToHellWithGA> i've been running jessies for about 3 months with daily errors piling up in mail, each about a degraded array - i.e. only one active device
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2319[16:36:26] <greycat> Probably because you just haven't needed it yet.
2320[16:36:28] <veek> i also use hibernate from time to time and i heard that there's some problem with doing both
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2322[16:36:38] <ToHellWithGA> is there a place to suggest improvements to the netinst process?
2323[16:36:52] <greycat> Probably #debian-boot on OFTC.
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2325[16:37:19] <veek> ah swapiness
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2329[16:38:16] <`Kevin> veek: do you really want to swap? :|
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2335[16:39:31] <veek> `Kevin, hey :) ah.. no, but i feel it's underused.. anyway let me mess with it a bit
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2337[16:39:55] <`Kevin> veek: best case scenario it is never used :)
2338[16:39:55] <ToHellWithGA> thanks greycat
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2341[16:40:32] <veek> yeah but running chrome and virtualbox on a core-2 is a pain
2342[16:40:40] <veek> and i've recently had to
2343[16:41:09] <veek> just want to make sure it's not a problem with hibernate
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2345[16:41:28] <veek> there was some guff about not being able to do both.. on the same file
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2349[16:43:27] <jonko> last time i installed debian or any other linux distro the fonts where a big problem for me, they where so ugly and caused eye strain
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2351[16:43:37] <jonko> espesially when browsing
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2353[16:44:06] <jonko> i am interested in trying out debian again but am wondeing what is going on in the fonts department
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2355[16:46:11] <veek> my fonts seem okay
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2357[16:46:47] <jonko> i am used to windows and i have to spend long hours behind the screen so fonts are important to my eyes health
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2384[16:58:05] <veek> hmm with 4G my box is responsive enough to run FF, GC, chat, and xp and pdfs - wow
2385[16:59:02] <veek> Swap: 4194300 6828 4187472 with swapiness at 10
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2537[17:50:56] <yeehi> What is the official name for the Debian project? Is it Debian GNU/Linux? That doesn't appear on the website, as far as i can see.
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2539[17:51:18] <greycat> Debian GNU/Linux is the operating system.
2540[17:51:38] <greycat> Although I suppose there may be a trend toward simplifying....
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2542[17:51:56] <TomTomTosch> debian.org > about debian > "The Debian Project is an association of individuals who (...)"
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2548[17:52:36] <TomTomTosch> "Debian Project" is the official name for the debian project ^^
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2552[17:53:26] <TomTomTosch> it includes Debian GNU/Linux but is not limited to that.
2553[17:53:32] <greycat> A large part of the basic tools that fill out the operating system come from the GNU project; hence the names: GNU/Linux, GNU/kFreeBSD, and GNU/Hurd.
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2560[17:56:31] <yeehi> Thanks good people. Of course, there is HURD, and thanks for mentioning kFreeBSD, too.
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2563[17:56:44] <yeehi> So The Debian Project is it...
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2567[17:57:52] <n4dir> last time i tried kFreeBSD it worked pretty well. Hurd, as far it's me, was quite some pain.
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2610[18:12:42] <nemo> So... I just installed my first ever debian - had been on ubuntu for years, but making the transition to devuan.
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2613[18:12:58] <nemo> The installer was kinda painful to use I gotta say ☺
2614[18:14:03] <eumel> it's pretty much the same isn't it?
2615[18:14:07] <epsilon> just keep pressing enter and you have default installation :P
2616[18:14:14] <eumel> at least with the text-based installation
2617[18:14:23] <nemo> failed to install grub, had to grab the ubuntu boot-repair PPA to fix that. insists on internet, but has no provision to setup wifi. no desktop mode which makes DDGing/googling for stuff way more pleasant
2618[18:14:33] <somiaj> nemo: what install image did you use?
2619[18:14:43] <TomTomTosch> !devuan
2620[18:14:43] <dpkg> Devuan (replaced-url
2621[18:14:44] <cluelessperson> how can I configure dpkg to log verbose output?
2622[18:14:45] <nemo> somiaj: devuan jessie. but they said they were using standard installer
2623[18:14:51] <cluelessperson> in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cnf ?
2624[18:15:02] <nemo> TomTomTosch: yeah, I know, I just figured I'd mention the installer was kind of a pain since it was yours ☺
2625[18:15:02] <cluelessperson> NOT through the command line with dpkg -D<octal>
2626[18:15:07] <nemo> TomTomTosch: devuan itself is working fine
2627[18:15:13] <somiaj> nemo: well you should go talk to devuan about their installers. Debian doesn't support installers made by other distros.
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2631[18:15:32] <nemo> somiaj: ok. I thought it was yours. my understanding is they were just fixing the systemd packages, not touching the installer
2632[18:15:43] <somiaj> nemo: on debian the live-image installers don't work as well as the offical debian instalelrs. But in most cases those work just fine and install grub just fine.
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2634[18:15:48] <somiaj> !based on debian
2635[18:15:49] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
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2638[18:16:00] <somiaj> nemo: we have no clue what they have changed in both the installer and the debian system to remove systemd.
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2641[18:16:43] <nemo> somiaj: hm. my apologies, debian-installer *is* on the list of forked packages. go figure
2642[18:16:55] <nemo> somiaj: so does the normal live cd installer for debian have an option to join wifi? ☺
2643[18:17:18] <nemo> somiaj: replaced-url
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2647[18:18:18] <nemo> somiaj: alright. will follow up w/ them, anyway. sorry. thought I was getting a more or less authentic debian experience for the first time ever
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2649[18:18:42] <somiaj> nemo: you might want to ask devuan support since that is what you are using. In debian wifi requires non-free firmware in most cases so that requires using unoffical images or having non-free firmware during the install. But the unoffical netinstall is the prefered install medium with non-free firmware. I usually suggest not installing from the debian live images. But this has nothign to do with what is sug
2650[18:18:48] <somiaj> gested for devaun.
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2652[18:19:10] <nemo> somiaj: ah. good point. I did have to install the non-free to get wifi working on this machine. that would be a chicken and egg problem on the CD
2653[18:19:17] <nemo> so that could explain my probs. it didn't even find the device
2654[18:19:53] <nemo> somiaj: the grub installer was odd... ended up having to add the ubuntu PPA boot-repair to get it working. seems unlikely devuan would have messed w/ that but who knows
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2657[18:20:35] <missmbob> !tell nemo about dont break debian
2658[18:20:44] <gebruiker> Font issues. Fonts are still fugly after install fontconfig infinality as suggested by debainwiki page. What to do? Eye strain.
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2660[18:20:51] <missmbob> mixing ubuntu ppa will eventually mess you up
2661[18:21:08] <nemo> missmbob: well... wasn't thrilled w/ it, but was the only way to get boot-repair according to the dude's website
2662[18:21:09] <gebruiker> hi missmbob
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2665[18:21:31] <nemo> missmbob: and w/o it, commandline grub install and debian gui were just choking for no obvious reason
2666[18:21:41] <nemo> I guess his script does some arcane config
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2670[18:22:10] <wewlad> hello, debs
2671[18:22:18] <wewlad> I've got a problem with netcat
2672[18:22:19] <nemo> missmbob: once I had my grub installed, I didn't need it anymore ☺
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2675[18:22:53] <n4dir> you could just use chroot from a live-CD and install grub, nemo
2676[18:22:55] <nemo> gebruiker: you have subpixel hinting enabled?
2677[18:23:01] <wewlad> I use nc to send plain text messages over udp to the target ip:port, but for some reason nc just stops by itself. Why's that happening? how to fix that?
2678[18:23:02] <nemo> n4dir: yeah. that's what I tried at first
2679[18:23:05] <nemo> n4dir: kept failing
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2681[18:23:28] <nemo> no idea why. something about unable to locate EFI partition or something. dunno. I'm not very EFI savvy. it kinda reminds me of systemd 😉
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2684[18:23:50] <gebruiker> nemo, I have the settings from the debian wiki so yes afaik. After using the config from the debian wiki I even installed ifinality that made things much better but still causing eye strain
2685[18:24:06] <nemo> gebruiker: what window manager are you using?
2686[18:24:12] <gebruiker> nemo xfce
2687[18:24:16] <nemo> hm.
2688[18:24:26] <nemo> wonder if I even have that on this machine right now. kinda gotten used to MATE
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2690[18:24:43] <nemo> nope. oh well
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2694[18:25:12] <gebruiker> nemo, the infinality packages are packaged that they are configured out of the box. I did -as recommended- created an .Xresoruces file in $HOME with the suggested settings
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2696[18:26:06] <nemo> gebruiker: yeah, this really seems to be something your gui should be able to offer you a nice interface for ☺
2697[18:26:34] <nemo> in gnome2/MATE that would be System→ Preferences → Appearance → Fonts where the standard options have always made me pretty happy
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2699[18:26:45] <gebruiker> nemo xfce has a option to configure hinting and such but that does not really help as it is already configured by .Xresources
2700[18:26:52] <missmbob> in xfce it's settings->appearance->fonts
2701[18:26:57] <wewlad> so I run 'nc -z -u 192.168.0.2 12345' and first it opens prompt (where I can write in some stuff), but in about 2 seconds it just closes the prompt. Why is that happening?
2702[18:27:02] <nemo> missmbob: about same gui then?
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2704[18:27:14] <missmbob> yeah
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2709[18:28:00] <johanskizo> how to install nvidia?
2710[18:28:16] <eumel> wewlad, try running with -v for verbose output, maybe nc has something more to say to yo
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2712[18:28:23] <johanskizo> i use hybird vga nvidia with intel
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2715[18:29:01] <missmbob> !bumblebee
2716[18:29:01] <dpkg> The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. replaced-url
2717[18:29:03] <nemo> gebruiker: just wondering... you're not more used to, oh, fonts under windows or OSX are you?
2718[18:29:20] <gebruiker> nemo yes I am unfortunally
2719[18:29:25] <nemo> gebruiker: mmm. which one?
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2721[18:29:35] <gebruiker> nemo, windows
2722[18:29:37] <nemo> kk
2723[18:29:38] <wewlad> eumel: it tells me 'targethostname.mylan [192.168.0.2] 12345 (?) open'
2724[18:29:42] <converge> Im trying to use requests, and I always get ZeroReturnError, so I uninstall openssl package (debian), install again, and requests works again. someone knows whats wrong ?
2725[18:29:51] <nemo> gebruiker: not like Windows 10 right? More Windows XP/Windows 7?
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2727[18:30:05] <nemo> gebruiker: that is, clamped to stright pixel grid?
2728[18:30:09] <johanskizo> when i install bumblebee it must be purge noveau too?
2729[18:30:13] <nemo> gebruiker: heavy use of bitmapped font sizes?
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2731[18:30:22] <nemo> *strict
2732[18:30:23] <gebruiker> nemo, like windows 10 . I already tried setting the infinality style to ms but it did not help
2733[18:30:35] <nemo> oh. huh.
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2735[18:30:46] <johanskizo> nemo?
2736[18:30:47] <nemo> I've always thought Windows 10 fonts are a lot closer to Linux in rendering. Interesting
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2740[18:31:11] <nemo> johanskizo: sorry talking to gebruiker here and neglecting to prepend name
2741[18:31:29] <nemo> gebruiker: say. just for the heck of it
2742[18:31:36] <nemo> gebruiker: what if we compared screenshots
2743[18:31:44] <thowe> adding my ipv6 info into /etc/network/interfaces is never enough to get me online... I have had to adopt running an additional script. Am I missing something here? replaced-url
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2746[18:32:17] <nemo> gebruiker: machine I'm on is ubuntu 14.04 in preparation for for a transition to devuan, but should be pretty close right
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2749[18:32:38] <Gaiseric> Hello everyone! Jessie here with backported kernel and nVidia drivers with bumblebee (versions 4.7.0 and 352.79 respectively). Latest updates broke OpenGL acceleration. Running "primusrun glxgears" gives a blank window and reports "X Error of failed request: GLXBadFBConfig" and "Minor opcode of failed request: 24 (X_GLXCreateNewContext)"... Anyone with similar setup/problems?
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2751[18:32:51] <gebruiker> nemo sure, but i know ubuntu patched their fontconfig ...are you taking a screenshot within unity de?
2752[18:33:03] <nemo> gebruiker: naw. MATE. gnome24lyfe yo ☺
2753[18:33:10] <nemo> gebruiker: haven't found a desktop to match it yet.
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2755[18:33:30] <jak2000> jmcnaught thanks
2756[18:33:33] <jak2000> you saved me
2757[18:33:42] * jak2000 send 8 miller high life to jmcnaught!
2758[18:33:50] <gebruiker> nemo. i see, i tried mate to until I found xfce with wshikermenu :) ... interesting, how would you like to compare ?
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2762[18:34:50] <gebruiker> nemo i found some interesting font configs on github, same guy who did some cool stuff with infinality
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2768[18:36:49] <nemo> gebruiker: I'm just taking a screenshot in gimp w/ some representative windows. I'm curious about the "looks ugly" thing
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2770[18:36:59] <carandraug> could anyone with debian jessie and libgdcm2-dev installed, tell me what this returns? "cmake --find-package -DNAME=GDCM -DCOMPILER_ID=GNU -DLANGUAGE=CXX -DMODE=LINK"
2771[18:37:07] <nemo> gebruiker: it kinda reminds me of experimenting in web fonts ages and ages ago where the difference across platforms was enormous
2772[18:37:09] <carandraug> ups. Not jessie. I mean Debian wheezy
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2775[18:38:22] <nemo> gebruiker: my main issue w/ XFCE4 was it was just... clunky... I used it years and years ago on some minimal setups, but recent desktop shootout suggests it isn't even a win on memory usage
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2778[18:38:40] <bolt> carandraug: chroot :)
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2780[18:38:46] <bolt> carandraug: just in case nobody replies
2781[18:38:50] <gebruiker> nemo interesting I chose it for that reason actually
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2783[18:38:55] <nemo> gebruiker: for example, setting date/time from widget. not too easy to do. desktop config scattered in various places. shortage of desktop widgets. Rather like the convenience of the gnome vfs etc
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2786[18:39:29] <gebruiker> nemo here is mine: replaced-url
2787[18:39:31] <nemo> gebruiker: replaced-url
2788[18:39:38] <nemo> gebruiker: that's the desktop memory
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2791[18:39:56] <nemo> gebruiker: I did use xfce4 rather successfully years ago on a laptop with a whole 96MiB of RAM ☺
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2793[18:40:00] <nemo> gebruiker: it ran gentoo ☺
2794[18:40:08] <nemo> but that was a loooong time ago
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2797[18:40:23] <carandraug> bolt: can you explain that better. Is that when you have a whole other system in kind of a container? Any instructions how to do it?
2798[18:40:40] <gebruiker> interesting - thanks for the share
2799[18:40:45] <nemo> gebruiker: hm... is that image resized?
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2801[18:41:03] <nemo> it just looks really fuzzy
2802[18:41:10] <gebruiker> must be auto resized, lets see...
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2804[18:41:43] <gebruiker> nemo, replaced-url
2805[18:42:12] <nemo> oh wow
2806[18:42:14] <nemo> that's ugly to you?
2807[18:42:15] <nemo> uhoh
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2811[18:42:38] <gebruiker> nemo that is with the fontocnfig infinality patches
2812[18:42:46] <Gaiseric> gebruiker: That's quite nice font rendering actrually
2813[18:42:52] <nemo> yeah
2814[18:42:58] <Gaiseric> gebruiker: I much prefer it to windows
2815[18:43:06] <nemo> Gaiseric: I'm a bit concerned he might want pixel grid snapping or something tricky to do like that
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2817[18:43:33] <nemo> thankfully the rise of high dpi monitors is gonna obsolete all that very soon
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2820[18:43:47] <johanskizo> somebody help mee
2821[18:43:48] <helioge> how can i check the last time a user (root) logged in via ssh? i log sshd activity to /var/log/secure?
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2824[18:44:05] <nemo> helioge: depends on how often you rotate the log
2825[18:44:06] <Gaiseric> nemo: You mean changing the hinting settings?
2826[18:44:10] <nemo> helioge: otherwise just greb the log
2827[18:44:33] <nemo> Gaiseric: windows used to be extremely aggressive in snapping chars to pixel grid alignment
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2829[18:44:57] <nemo> Gaiseric: and made heavy use of bitmap fonts for certain font sizes. encoutnered this when my boss wanted his fav windows font on websites
2830[18:44:58] <eumel> just use last
2831[18:45:03] <nemo> and it looked awful in OSX and Linu
2832[18:45:21] <n4dir> carandraug: i am not sure if i got you right, if so forgive me: look at the package "debootstrap"
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2834[18:45:31] <Gaiseric> nemo: Yes, I think they disabled font AA for small sizes on Windows
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2836[18:46:00] <carandraug> n4dir: I'm reading this now replaced-url
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2838[18:46:13] <nemo> gebruiker: here's my desktop FWIW, w/ basically no configuration whatsoever replaced-url
2839[18:46:20] <nemo> gebruiker: apart from turning on subpixel hinting
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2842[18:46:36] <nemo> gebruiker: naturally that's not going to show up in screenshots at all
2843[18:46:53] <n4dir> carandraug: yes, thats pretty much i could have said too. good luck
2844[18:46:54] <nemo> gebruiker: unless by some miracle you have exact same desktop size and lcd orientation ☺
2845[18:46:58] <nemo> and use fullscreen ☺
2846[18:47:27] <gebruiker> interesting the ubuntu fonts, i feel more relaxtion in my eyes actually
2847[18:47:48] <nemo> gebruiker: so. the shapes instantly get a lot thinner if you enable subpixel hinting
2848[18:47:57] <nemo> gebruiker: at least in the MATE Appearance dialog
2849[18:48:08] <nemo> gebruiker: want me to take same desktop w/o subpixel as a comparison?
2850[18:48:24] <nemo> gebruiker: I notice your D is heavier than mine for example
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2852[18:48:32] <gebruiker> i have Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault in $HOME/.Xresources hmm
2853[18:48:45] <gebruiker> yes it might be because of hintfull i might change that into light
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2855[18:49:05] <nemo> gebruiker: I have mine set to Full too...
2856[18:49:30] <nemo> gebruiker: subpixel, 96DPI, Full, RGB
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2858[18:49:43] <nemo> pretty sure I verified this screen was RGB. they usually are..
2859[18:50:22] <nemo> gebruiker: oh. and I'm using the "Ubuntu" font
2860[18:50:33] <gebruiker> be right back I applied a custom fontconfig in my system. Lets see what it does nemo
2861[18:50:36] <nemo> as you can see in the screenshot I guess
2862[18:50:41] <nemo> gl
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2914[19:05:53] <jmcnaught> jak2000: did you end up needing to grow the root file system, or reduce the logical volume that it was on?
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2926[19:09:45] <blawiz> is there a way to tie two applicaions together in a meta-window? eg have a fm and what it starts act as one window
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2931[19:10:39] <blawiz> eg if im watching a series, and the series is done i would go back to the fm
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2939[19:12:04] <jmcnaught> blawiz: you might find a windows manager with a feature like this. kwin had/has a tabbed windows feature. For that particular use case, you could use a video player to open the videos (like VLC's media library for example)
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2945[19:12:59] <blawiz> ah yes :) ill ask in #openbox, ty!
2946[19:13:54] <nemo> blawiz: also some media apps can play in an arbitrary window ID ☺
2947[19:14:06] <nemo> never tried it in a file manager personally. bet it would depend on compositing and the file manager
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2950[19:14:44] <jmcnaught> blawiz: nautilus also has a preview feature (space bar) that can open videos
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2954[19:15:40] <blawiz> hmm... i usually like to hack solutions myself, and use particular software (:
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2964[19:20:36] <sm00th> haha
2965[19:20:41] <sm00th> ^
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2979[19:25:16] <greathector7> hello!
2980[19:25:17] <greathector7> i need your help on my desktop! had a compaq cq1507la
2981[19:25:17] <greathector7> and i install linux debian 8.6 but its detect 2 monitor, and i only had 1. how i could resolve this?
2982[19:25:23] <greathector7> i install debian 8.6
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3028[19:43:15] <nemo> greathector7: sure it isn't just detecting 2 gfx cards?
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3061[19:57:06] <notadeveloper> how do i smb?
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3063[19:57:22] <greycat> Debian = Client? Server?
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3089[20:06:55] <DrSlony> Hello, I will soon release RawTherapee 5 and I want to make sure that Debian will ship it. Is there anyone here who is either a Debian package maintainer or aware of any issues with the RawTherapee codebase as far as Debian is concerned?
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3095[20:09:04] <somiaj> DrSlony: at this time it will be hard to get a new package into stretch before the freeze. If you are looking for someone to package the software for you, you can put a requst to package request otherwise you could look into mataining your own package and see if debian will accept them.
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3100[20:09:27] <somiaj> DrSlony: replaced-url
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3103[20:11:15] <jmcnaught> it looks like rawtherapee is already packaged, so DrSlony you could reach out to the maintainers with a bug report asking if they could package the newer version
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3119[20:18:50] <DrSlony> jmcnaught could you check who the maintainer is? I guess you're on debian and there is some command for that...
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3122[20:20:16] <greycat> DrSlony: replaced-url
3123[20:20:40] <DrSlony> thanks
3124[20:21:14] <missmbob> DrSlony: dont email him directly, though. that's annoying. just file a simple bug report once you release it.
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3128[20:21:53] <nikolov_> how to use wifi in mi laptop
3129[20:22:40] <nikolov_> !wifi
3130[20:22:40] <dpkg> Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. replaced-url
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3134[20:23:03] <DrSlony> missmbob simple bug report = register for new account, which is annoying to me ;)
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3139[20:23:43] <DrSlony> but I'm not here asking to have a new build included, I'm here to find out whether there are currently any known issues, so that I can fix them before releasing it.
3140[20:23:47] <DrSlony> I'll contact the maintainer.
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3143[20:24:17] * DrSlony has a dream, that all distro issue trackers use a common login
3144[20:24:18] <greycat> replaced-url
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3151[20:25:58] <teraflops> DrSlony: thank $GOD people cares and report bugs
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3153[20:26:07] <teraflops> not you obviously
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3155[20:26:27] <jmcnaught> nikolov_: most people just need to install a firmware and then use the networkmanager gui. What have you tried?
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3157[20:27:14] <DrSlony> teraflops woah, amazing. You don't know me, I come here, not being a Debian user but trying to pre-emptively make things better for Debian RT users, and you give me that... Have a nice day dude :]
3158[20:27:38] <jmcnaught> DrSlony: you don't need to create an account to report bugs, it's all done over email. The bugs.debian.org site is just a web front end to the primarily email system. If you have a Debian system you can use reportbug. The process is described here: replaced-url
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3160[20:28:34] <teraflops> DrSlony: sorry? I just inferred that from what you wrote.
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3167[20:30:17] <nikolov_> jmcnaught i just see mt router to connect 100 mb/s
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3172[20:30:56] <jmcnaught> nikolov_: i don't understand
3173[20:31:50] <nikolov_> my laptop how to connect my router internet aut of cable
3174[20:32:08] <nikolov_> my engish is not good
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3176[20:32:51] <codfection> what kernel is testing / unstable right now?
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3179[20:32:54] <jmcnaught> nikolov_: it's okay :) there are other debian channels in various languages if you want to try that. otherwise.. currently you are connected with an ethernet cable, but you want to use wifi instead?
3180[20:33:12] <nikolov_> bulgarian
3181[20:33:15] <greycat> ,kernels
3182[20:33:16] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-2)
3183[20:33:33] <nikolov_> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Debian stretch/sid • CPU: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1,9 GiB Total (1,6 GiB Free) Swap: 3,7 GiB Total (3,7 GiB Free) • Storage: 8,3 GB / 76,2 GB (67,9 GB Free) • VGA: 10de:0244 @ 1022:1100 • Uptime: 33m 57s
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3185[20:34:13] <greycat> Unicode Character 'BULLET' (U+2022)
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3188[20:34:28] <greycat> Unicode Character 'HAIR SPACE' (U+200A)
3189[20:34:32] <greycat> hair... what?
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3192[20:34:48] <jmcnaught> nikolov_: there might not be an IRC channel for Bulgarian, but there are some resources listed here: replaced-url
3193[20:35:11] <nikolov_> ok
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3198[20:36:31] <jmcnaught> nikolov_: you will also find stretch/testing support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (a different network). this channel primarily supports stable releases. I recommend you put the output of the following commands on replaced-url
3199[20:37:00] <jmcnaught> (or try asking the mailing list linked in the above link)
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3204[20:38:36] <Dreaman> Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)
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3207[20:38:52] <jmcnaught> Dreaman: it's on irc.oftc.net which is a different network from freenode
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3209[20:39:05] <Dreaman> ok
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3215[20:41:41] <gshrikant> I noticed that opening /proc/self/fd when in a zsh session yields 4 FDs (stdio and 10). Running it with `bash` also creates 4 FDs (stdio, 255). Strace shows both bash and zsh open 4 FDs on the pty when starting and then dup2 them to 255/10. Why is this the case?
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3217[20:42:03] <gshrikant> lsof shows the extra fd connected to the terminal
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3225[20:43:05] <gshrikant> I don't know if this is the best channel for the question. Apologies if that is not the case!
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3239[20:48:23] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: A hair space is narrower than a short space.
3240[20:48:29] <DrSlony> aah haha, I know the maintainer, didn't know it was him
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3252[20:53:22] <rdz> hey all. i'm having troubles with background tasks started by user's crontab in jessie. i made a script that start some audio applications like jackd, fluidsynth and mpd, but after a while jackd can't be connected anymore
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3254[20:54:08] <rdz> strange is that i write pids into different files in a folder audiopids inside /run/user/1000
3255[20:54:32] <rdz> however, when "it" happens, the folder is gone..
3256[20:54:48] <rdz> are there some cleanup tasks performed by systemd?
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3258[20:55:17] <rdz> can i tell systemd not to clean up any background tasks?
3259[20:55:53] <greycat> What is "it"? What directory is "gone"?
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3264[20:57:54] <jmcnaught> rdz: look at logind.conf(5) or consider changing the cron job so it doesn't depend on a directory that is only present when a user is logged in
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3266[20:58:02] <rdz> greycat, gone is the directory /run/user/1000/audiopids with all its contents.. it was all created at boot time from the script started from user's crontab
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3268[20:58:40] <rdz> jmcnaught, ah.. /run/user/<uid> is deleted when corresponding is _not_ logged in?
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3270[20:59:36] <rdz> greycat, by "it" i mean, jackd process is still running, but jack clients don't "see" it and ccan't connect to jackd server
3271[20:59:57] <greycat> Maybe jackd removes this directory when it exits? I know absolutely nothing about jackd.
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3275[21:00:51] <greycat> And yes, /run/user/UID is a transient directory, only existing while you are logged in.
3276[21:01:34] <rdz> greycat, no.. this folder is purely specific to my script and is not related to jackd.. however, both seem to happen at the same time (jackd unreachable, folder gone)
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3279[21:02:34] <rdz> what about programs that are started by crontab at boot time (without a user logged in): are they running in a session too?
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3283[21:04:03] <rdz> or in other words: can i use crontab to start tasks that run as daemon, or is that a wrong approach from the beginning?
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3286[21:05:06] <greycat> You don't mean "as user daemon", do you? You mean "as a normal user who will login some time in the future"?
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3288[21:05:47] <greycat> You should be able to launch daemons as a regular user, as long as you don't make them depend on resources that won't exist permanently.
3289[21:06:30] <rdz> greycat, now i'm suspicious that jackd has dependencies that are only available when a user is logged in....
3290[21:06:48] <rdz> greycat, is dbus somethiung that runs only during a logged in user session, too?
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3294[21:07:36] <rdz> is there a way to emulate a logged in user? i guess that would save me some trouble
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3299[21:09:49] <jmcnaught> rdz: logind.conf has a RemoveIPC= directive that defaults to true. I don't know jackd very well, but i imagine it was designed to be used primarily by an active login session. I don't know the root problem you're trying to solve, but perhaps you should check out systemd timer units and systemd per-user sessions (eg systemctl --user)
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3304[21:10:51] <rdz> jmcnaught, thanks..that gives me something to research for..
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3314[21:12:16] <rdz> jmcnaught, my goal is to start my raspberry by with jackd already running, so that some audio programs like mpd can play audio on-demand
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3319[21:12:52] <rdz> but it seems since systemd things are not so straighforward anymore as they used to be
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3328[21:15:18] <greycat> Can jackd just exist as a *traditional* daemon, independent of all this crazy systemd, /run, etc. stuff? And then connect to it?
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3332[21:16:17] <rdz> greycat, i don't really, but i guess it can't.. i had it fail at times and i hat do restart dbus.service to make it work again
3333[21:16:35] <rdz> *i don't really know
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3347[21:22:25] <rdz> maybe what i want is setting 'RemoveIPC=no', as jmcnaught suggested.. thanks
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3350[21:24:15] <jmcnaught> rdz: i wouldn't consider that ideal and i do not know all the consequences of it. i'm sure the jack package(s) has some documentatio that will indicate various ways of running it, possibly as a system service
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3365[21:28:10] <onox> I just tried to upgrade from jessie to stretch: min upgrade, then dist-upgrade then (IIRC) upgrade the kernel
3366[21:28:12] <onox> then rebooted
3367[21:28:18] <onox> now I got dropped into busybox
3368[21:28:26] <greycat> !debian-next
3369[21:28:27] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3532[22:31:15] <jhutchins_wk> OneM_Industries: WHAT UUID doesn't exist?
3533[22:31:23] <jhutchins_wk> OneM_Industries: N'mind.
3534[22:31:42] <OneM_Industries> Eeh?
3535[22:31:55] <jhutchins_wk> OneM_Industries: Tried to reply to a departed nic.
3536[22:32:23] <OneM_Industries> Ah, ok.
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3553[22:36:50] <kimo91> I cannot boot to kali gui, I just receiving errors messages "Failed to start Login service", any help?
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3555[22:36:56] <greycat> !kali
3556[22:36:56] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3586[22:47:29] <mahollowspe> hello
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3595[22:51:04] <eumel> good evening
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3599[22:51:40] <kimo91> Eumel: Good evening
3600[22:51:50] <kimo91> mahollowspe: hello
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3624[22:59:27] <mahollowspe> hello, I had a possably dumb question, so sorry in advance. I have a VPS and I want to be able to use the tools installed there on my LAN. Is there a way to tunnel or somthing somehow to give it acces to my LAN?
3625[22:59:55] <mahollowspe> Im running debian 8.0
3626[23:00:13] <greycat> What tool?
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3630[23:00:48] <mahollowspe> nmap as an example
3631[23:01:21] <mahollowspe> I want to give my VPS access to my local network
3632[23:01:34] <greycat> You could *tell* your VPS to run nmap, and you could retrieve the results (strings of characters written to stdout intended to be read by a human), but the probing packets will actually be sent and received by the VPS, not by a system on your LAN.
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3635[23:01:54] <greycat> In particular, this means the VPS cannot *probe* systems that are in your protected network.
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3637[23:02:47] <greycat> If you want the VPS to be "on" your network, you need to establish what we call a VPN (Virtual Private Network).
3638[23:02:52] <mahollowspe> ok thats what I thoug. If I run Nmap located in a data center somewhere it can only scan that network or itself
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3640[23:03:08] <greycat> It can scan any machine that's directly exposed on the Internet.
3641[23:03:28] <greycat> If your LAN is inside a firewall (NAT), then it can't scan those machines, unless you set up a VPS to connect the systems.
3642[23:03:37] <mahollowspe> right Im aware of that but no internal network right?
3643[23:03:57] <mahollowspe> darn ok thanks
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3645[23:04:29] <greycat> err, set up a VPN
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3648[23:05:48] <mahollowspe> I have openvpn server on my remote server and am using it often but I guess that does not help me
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3650[23:06:30] <greycat> Why don't you just install and run nmap on your local computer
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3657[23:07:27] <CutMeOwnThroat> too easy :)
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3659[23:07:39] <mahollowspe> I do actully but I was hoping I could just use my server for things like wireshark, nmap etc..
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3662[23:08:02] <greycat> You would have to use a VPN for this.
3663[23:09:10] <unborn> heh
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3667[23:09:46] <bolt> it would be a lot easier to just run kali in a vm for that
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3669[23:09:57] <mahollowspe> so your saying if I connect using a vpn on my server to a local computer It would give local access?
3670[23:09:58] <greycat> You don't even need a VM.
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3681[23:11:58] <mahollowspe> so I have kali installed duel boot and on vbox but Iwas hopping I could access kali tools when dont have access to my own computer. say as an example a work compter
3682[23:12:01] <greycat> This really isn't a situation where the remote VPS buys you anything at all. The probing packets would still have to go from the VPS, through the VPN, out of your local computer's VPN endpoint, across the LAN, to the probed system, then return the same way, ultimately to the VPS, where nmap sees the results, and writes something. Then the written
3683[23:12:15] <greycat> results would have to be sent BACK across the VPN to your local machine for you to see them.
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3685[23:12:21] <greycat> It would be a lot simpler just to run nmap on your local system.
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3693[23:13:41] <unborn> I think he is trying to run wireshark on his local machine but pulling the data from network where his server sits
3694[23:13:43] <mahollowspe> ok thanks for your help greycat
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3697[23:14:31] <mahollowspe> noI want to pull info from a network that is ot directly connected to my server
3698[23:14:42] <mahollowspe> not
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3700[23:15:02] <CutMeOwnThroat> that made it so much clearer
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3702[23:15:29] <CutMeOwnThroat> not
3703[23:15:41] <mahollowspe> sorry lol
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3709[23:18:16] <mahollowspe> exit
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3716[23:20:14] <CutMeOwnThroat> * mahollowspe has quit (Quit: leaving (not))
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3725[23:23:49] <annoyed> just had a nouveau GPU lockup... is there a way to save my session?
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3728[23:24:40] * annoyed just had one 6 days ago -_-
3729[23:24:49] <annoyed> ...and 12 days before that
3730[23:25:08] <annoyed> im on tty2
3731[23:25:18] <annoyed> er... sry tty1
3732[23:25:23] <annoyed> (if tht matters0
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3753[23:34:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> probably no, although I'm not sure what you mean by "session"
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3760[23:36:13] <annoyed> CutMeOwnThroat: my windows and running processes... id like to avoid a full reboot
3761[23:37:01] <missmbob> annoyed: you use gnome i'm guessing?
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3763[23:37:05] <CutMeOwnThroat> you mean the X server is frozen
3764[23:37:16] <annoyed> missmbob: yes
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3766[23:37:31] <missmbob> you just have to restart the dm. with gnome it's probably service gdm3 restart
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3768[23:37:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> but the system itself is still there
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3770[23:38:09] <CutMeOwnThroat> you might even get away with killing and restarting gnome
3771[23:38:14] <annoyed> CutMeOwnThroat: maybe? the only message i get is: "nouveau E[ DRM] GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon"
3772[23:38:28] <annoyed> system is def still there, im sure i could ssh in if i needed
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3776[23:38:55] <CutMeOwnThroat> how do you get the message?
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3779[23:39:22] <sl4v3> anyone here use SimpleSAMLphp?
3780[23:39:30] <missmbob> after you did the command i said to...what happened?
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3804[23:51:42] <annoyed_> missmbob: looks like it just hangs and prints nouveau errors
3805[23:51:42] <aedinius> I think I'm going crazy
3806[23:51:55] <annoyed_> "failed to idle channel"
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3809[23:52:30] <aedinius> anything that links to libass fails to run on one box, but works on another, and they should be configured the same.
3810[23:52:33] <aedinius> mpv: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libass.so.5: undefined symbol: FT_Outline_EmboldenXY
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3812[23:52:48] <aedinius> but I know that it's there.... readelf shows me...
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3821[23:58:24] <CutMeOwnThroat> you have the wrong version of libass or something it uses
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3823[23:59:05] <aedinius> CutMeOwnThroat: It's the same version as on the working system. hash matches and everything
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