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2[00:01:18] <annadane> come baaaack
3[00:02:33] <EdePopede> baby come back
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17[00:13:34] <Casper26> Johann: Thank you sir duly noted.
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22[00:14:23] <NCS_One> hi
23[00:14:37] <bjarne333> longtime linux user, coming back debian after years
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25[00:15:17] <NCS_One> if I want to create an application without a window system what are my options?
26[00:15:17] <wroathe> Would anyone in here be kind enough to remind me how to resize the root linux partition? I just resized my virtual disk with Virtualbox and Debian doesn't automatically resize (not that it should)
27[00:15:39] <anarchomarx> gü
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29[00:15:46] <anarchomarx> gparted?
30[00:16:15] <wroathe> Hmm, it was thinking it should be possible without installing additional software
31[00:16:30] <wroathe> I've got resizepart, sfdisk, fdisk, resize2fs already on there
32[00:16:42] <wroathe> Just need a guick memory jog on what the command was
33[00:17:13] <sney> you probably have parted as well, but if it's a msdos partition table then fdisk is fine
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35[00:18:52] <wroathe> I don't see parted, but I do see partx
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62[00:41:04] <annadane> is gnome-boxes less resource heavy than virt-manager?
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65[00:43:31] <annadane> (i need a better computer...)
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75[00:48:04] <sney> I think it's about the same
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77[00:48:12] <sney> libvirt is doing the work, anyway
78[00:48:32] <sney> annadane: make sure vt-x is turned on in your bios, older computers used to have it off by default for some reason
79[00:48:37] <IanJ> should be fairly easy to check, try each with the same setup and run top...
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81[00:50:57] <qu1nn_pr0> maybe there is a guru out there who has seen my apache/nextcloud problem that could provide a pointer replaced-url
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99[01:02:42] <jhutchins> !nextcloud
100[01:02:42] <dpkg> nextcloud is probably a fork of owncloud. replaced-url
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102[01:03:28] <jhutchins> qu1nn_pr0: networking is tricky on containers and VMs.
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120[01:21:11] <qu1nn_pr0> jhutchins, not virtualizing or using docker containers, installed straight
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129[01:29:27] <annadane> i did a check for vt-x and couldn't find anything
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134[01:32:39] <EdePopede> Intel (VT-x) and AMD (AMD-V) <-- and i have vme, no clue if it's related.
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136[01:35:12] <Fenris> mac leaves intel
137[01:35:19] <quadrathoch2> annadane what system are you running? or check with lscpu
138[01:35:25] <quadrathoch2> Fenris good
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142[01:35:48] <Fenris> yeah finally i'll get one
143[01:36:00] <Fenris> for install debian :}
144[01:36:02] <annadane> what's the relevant thing to look for in lscpu?
145[01:36:29] <Fenris> annadane: cat /proc/cpuinfo
146[01:36:40] <Fenris> similar stuff
147[01:36:50] <quadrathoch2> annadane if intel it's vmx amd is svm
148[01:37:00] <annadane> oh, well, it's intel
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150[01:37:44] <annadane> i've also put this computer through some abuse, so...
151[01:37:47] * EdePopede has svm \o/
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155[01:40:25] <annadane> maybe i just need to download more RAM
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161[01:42:25] <EdePopede> ram doubler!
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205[02:17:35] <EdePopede> whan is "browsable" on salsa? i see some directories, but the sources aren't included
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231[02:35:22] <EdePopede> and a weird alphabet it uses replaced-url
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234[02:41:17] <EdePopede> htop (and also bashtop) has all the files on top level it seems. mc: nada. only "debian" which is a directory
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243[02:48:04] <EdePopede> seems to be the content of the .debian tarball. but where's the one from the .orig? or are they just rips from the upstream?
244[02:48:47] <sney> .orig is literally the upstream tarball, orig is short for original
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246[02:49:08] <sney> but also, not everything is maintained on salsa. tracker.debian.org is a good resource for checking which packages are and aren't
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250[02:50:42] <sney> and debian tries to get changes included upstream as much as possible. debian is an integration project; ideally, the only change between upstream and the debian sources is package build glue in debian/rules
251[02:51:28] <EdePopede> downloaded the htop's now. its .orig looks like the files salsa has here: replaced-url
252[02:51:57] <EdePopede> so some packages have their original files browsable on salsa while others don't?
253[02:52:31] <sney> yes
254[02:53:09] <EdePopede> oh. good. so it's not me :)
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257[02:56:25] <EdePopede> actually i was hoping to find some more undeveloped versions of mc's filetype helper scripts, but they seem to be the same, though some come as .in with tiny differences
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307[04:12:24] <oblio> howdy
308[04:12:32] <oblio> anyone else having problems w zoom screensharing under x11/bullseye?
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318[04:17:01] <annadane> !debian-next
319[04:17:01] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also replaced-url
320[04:17:04] <annadane> oblio, ^
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324[04:20:54] <qu1nn_pr0> pointers greatly appreciated...missing my nextcloud; see thread: replaced-url
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328[04:26:01] <jhutchins> !owncloud
329[04:26:01] <dpkg> ownCloud is an open source web application for data synchronization, file sharing and cloud storage. replaced-url
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390[05:49:07] <Disavowed> Hey all. Delving into setting up my nvidia GPU on my XPS on Debian 10 but there's quite a few ways to do it and I'm not sure what I should be doing really. I'm newish to Debian which probably doesn't help
391[05:49:31] <Disavowed> I've installed nvidia-driver via apt but glxinfo gives me: `X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)` which I suspect is something to do with my problem, but it's entirely possible I've gone about this all wrong!
392[05:49:42] <Disavowed> Any pointers gratefully received
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452[07:22:16] <mi11k1> hey, whats the simplist ftp server?
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477[08:02:42] <mi11k1> could somebodyt maybe help me with usb wifi? dmesg shows it, i have firmware-realtek installed as its a realtek chipset, lsusb shows it, however iw phy iw dev show nothing
478[08:02:51] <mi11k1> rfkill shows it not being blocked
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505[08:30:58] <EdePopede> don't people understand the difference between irc and a web forum anymore?
506[08:31:52] <rj1> maybe some people don't!
507[08:35:07] <EdePopede> rj1: unrelated, you don't use thunderbird as irc client by accident?
508[08:37:11] <rj1> EdePopede: nope, do u?
509[08:37:45] <EdePopede> no, hexchat. from the beginning, which wasn't even on my own system.
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512[08:38:20] <EdePopede> it's just that a similar nick has SASL connect messages from another user
513[08:38:56] <EdePopede> i thought this could have been you, raj1 some 15 hours ago
514[08:39:03] <rj1> not i
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624[10:23:56] <r1nt3c> htop
625[10:24:09] <r1nt3c> sorry misstake
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687[11:08:12] <Monotoko> Anyone know where I'm supposed to find named-checkconf these days?
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690[11:08:27] <Monotoko> everything tells me it's in the bind9utils but it's not
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734[11:09:20] <f-a> I would like to write a mathematical formula in TeX and have it converted to an image. What is the easiest way to do it? If it is command line, even better
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739[11:10:00] <Haohmaru> i hate to say this, but maybe it could be done with imagemagick x_x
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745[11:10:45] <Haohmaru> i mean, if it's like a matter of putting some text with a specific font into an image..
746[11:10:52] <f-a> Haohmaru: that would be fantastic — and scary at the same time!
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750[11:11:13] <Haohmaru> scary for sure
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759[11:12:27] <Monotoko> I'm so confused... I can see the man page here: replaced-url
760[11:12:37] <Monotoko> and have everything installed including bind9-utils
761[11:12:43] <Abrax> looks like i am using a fairly old debian version
762[11:12:49] <Abrax> gotta do an upgrade
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783[11:21:18] <ratrace> Monotoko: it's in /usr/sbin
784[11:21:21] <ratrace> !buster su
785[11:21:21] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See replaced-url
786[11:21:22] <ratrace> Monotoko: ^^
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817[11:51:06] <Aehuse2a> hello <3 debian
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837[12:06:24] <bipul> Hi, does anyone know how to connect with bridged adapter using virtualbox in debian 2.2 potato ??
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860[12:18:42] <RoyK> bipul: potato? ;)
861[12:19:00] <RoyK> bipul: what are you trying to achive here?
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873[12:31:02] <RoyK> bipul: if this is to revive an old installation or similar, I'd just use kvm. But again, if you have it running in virtualbox can either bridge the vm, which is neat, meaning it'll be on the same segment as everything else, or you can use the virtualbox "port forward" stuff. Not to be confused with iptables/nftables port forward. See
874[12:31:07] <RoyK> replaced-url
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878[12:40:38] <otisolsen70> Is it possible to run wireguard with Debian 10?
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885[12:44:00] <Monotoko> ratrace Ahhh yes I forgot this, that makes sense thanks (turned out it wasn't the config, I was just asking for A records rather than PTR :P)
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898[12:57:15] <bipul> RoyK, let see if i can do port forwarding
899[12:59:34] <bipul> RoyK, But to do portforwarding NIC need to detect, and i found 2.2 version has kernel 2.2.19 which does not support NIC
900[13:00:18] <bipul> Which does not support the list of NIC provided by VirtualBox.
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902[13:01:28] <bipul> So basically what's happening here is potato uses 2.2.19 version of kernel which does not support any NIC provided by virtualBox
903[13:02:13] <RoyK> oh - that sucks
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905[13:03:40] <bipul> RoyK, :(
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909[13:06:09] <bipul> The only option i can see is to blend the 2 decade old kernel with +5 Years kernel and customize the iso
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916[13:10:05] <RoyK> bipul: perhaps you could try with kvm?
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922[13:15:59] <bipul> both uses the same libvirt,
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924[13:17:16] <bipul> RoyK, I guess VirtualBox & KVMuses the same libvirt
925[13:18:45] <RoyK> that's libvirt, but not the drivers, afaik
926[13:18:59] <JyZyXEL> neither of those use libvirt
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928[13:19:37] <bipul> Let me see search if kvm support 2.2.19 kernel versions
929[13:19:54] <dka> I have upgraded my kernel and now I can't connect my bluetooth speaker
930[13:20:02] <dka> it does not appear in my list of audio devices
931[13:20:09] <dka> even if bluetooth is connected
932[13:20:11] <dka> any idea why?
933[13:21:11] <RoyK> bipul: I have some time off now, in these coronean times, so let me try :)
934[13:21:59] <bipul> It's crona era.
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940[13:30:41] <RoyK> damn - I've forgotten how shitty that potato installer was :D
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946[13:35:16] <bipul> :)
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993[14:16:06] <mokulus> I've been distrohopping a lot, could Debian be the remedy for my ailment?
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996[14:20:00] <dvs> no! ;-P
997[14:20:39] <netvixtra> try LFS
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1010[14:26:07] <jelly> !TIAS
1011[14:26:07] <dpkg> TIAS is "Try It And See".
1012[14:29:33] <dka> hi
1013[14:29:37] <dka> I am having bad issue with google-chrome-stable it's so unstable
1014[14:29:45] <dka> I am now thinking to format my debian
1015[14:29:51] <dka> But there's no reason to
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1017[14:29:55] <dka> is this package unstable?
1018[14:30:11] <Haohmaru> aww
1019[14:30:16] <Haohmaru> y u no firefox?
1020[14:30:27] <dka> because chrome for web developement is better
1021[14:30:33] <dka> IMO
1022[14:30:54] <Haohmaru> how unfortunate
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1024[14:32:04] <Haohmaru> "formatting" doesn't sounds like a solution at all to me
1025[14:32:12] <Haohmaru> wut's it supposed to achieve?
1026[14:32:51] <dka> Haohmaru, do you have a better solution?
1027[14:33:01] <dka> I can start it with --disable-extensions
1028[14:33:13] <dka> but that doesn't fit for my web dev work
1029[14:33:25] <dka> I removed and purged it, reinstalled it, remove extensions sync otherwise it break
1030[14:33:29] <dka> install my own extensiond
1031[14:33:33] <dka> but then it break again
1032[14:33:41] <dka> it seemed that the issues was hangout extension
1033[14:33:42] <Haohmaru> no, i only browse, i don't make webpages
1034[14:33:47] <dka> but this time I didn't installed it, and it break again
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1040[14:34:46] <mokulus> I've been distrohopping a lot, could Debian be the remedy for my ailment?
1041[14:35:07] <RoyK> bipul: hm - I just don't understand why you want to run this old poptato install. If it's an old disk and so on, why not mount it and grab the data?
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1043[14:35:50] <abrotman> mokulus: 1160 "people" can't be wrong!
1044[14:36:30] <joepublic> settle on debian and you can distrohop between stable and testing. Much cozier.
1045[14:36:31] <RoyK> seven billion flies can't be wrong: eat shit!
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1047[14:39:02] <Aebian> can someone point me in the right diretion on how to go along with this device driver? replaced-url
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1073[15:09:33] <premoboss> hello everyone. I need to have Debian 4.0... where can i find CD/DVD images? i know rgere is a sort of archive, i dig here replaced-url
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1078[15:15:36] <EdePopede> hm. did i miss Debian Retro Days?
1079[15:15:49] <Haohmaru> museum-grade Debian
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1082[15:18:01] <EdePopede> premoboss, replaced-url
1083[15:18:24] <EdePopede> !jigdo
1084[15:18:25] <dpkg> Jigsaw Download (jigdo) is a method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian CD images with jigdo" at replaced-url
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1086[15:18:52] <premoboss> thanks
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1104[15:33:02] <dD__> My system is crashing with a strange I/O error directly from the SSD. I've practically tried everything to test the disk. Before replacing it, I want to be 100% certain. The server crashes about 24 hours in, and works perfectly before those 24-36 hours always. What would be the best way to check the logs? Since once the system crashes I have to reboot and sometimes it crashes in the middle of
1105[15:33:04] <dD__> the night and cannot see the logs when it crashed.
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1108[15:37:06] <sussudio> dD__: do remote logging. and 9 out of 10 times, it's either the powersupply or a bad cable/connection.
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1110[15:39:13] <greycat> also, enabling the persistent journal would be a good idea, and easier to set up than remote logging
1111[15:39:26] <greycat> dpkg persistent journal
1112[15:39:26] <dpkg> In Debian releases 8-10, systemd's journal is not persistent by default. To enable a persistent journal, enable Storage=persistent in /etc/systemd/journald.conf. Persistence will be the default in Debian 11 Bullseye.
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1115[15:40:48] <shtrb> Does anyone know how to inverse the microphone led indicator ? my mic led is operating in an inverted way (led is on when mic is mutes/ not in use and off when it is in use )
1116[15:40:57] <shtrb> Using debian buster
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1119[15:41:34] <no_gravity> Hello! Sometimes, when I type "exit" in a terminal it hangs for a while. It is always the second window in screen. Is there a way to find out what is going on?
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1125[15:45:58] <jelly> writing any kind of logs to a dead disk might pose a problem
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1127[15:46:24] <greycat> True, but there's a good chance the disk is only partly dead, and not all the way dead.
1128[15:46:38] <greycat> So *something* might get written, and it doesn't cost much to try it.
1129[15:46:52] <greycat> Meanwhile you can also start working on remote logging.
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1132[15:47:49] <sussudio> if i recall correctly, enabling remote logging required 1 line at the client side, and uncommenting 2 lines at the server side rsyslog.conf
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1136[15:51:39] <kreyren> Heeelp~ replaced-url
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1172[16:22:14] <premoboss> EdePopede, no, i have to do a task that need that a kernel of 2.4.x
1173[16:25:37] <jelly> what kind of task?
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1175[16:26:16] <premoboss> jelly, if i tell you, then i have to kill you (joke)
1176[16:26:31] <premoboss> well, i am performing a linux-on-floppy
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1178[16:26:48] <premoboss> so i need a old kernel that can fit in.
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1183[16:29:08] <jelly> use tomsrtbt then, not a Debian kernel with lots of modularized stuff
1184[16:29:29] <jelly> and pick actual or virtual hardware VERY carefully
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1189[16:35:36] <dD__> If this is a new error my disk is giving me, does this mean it's very likely a hardware issue? replaced-url
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1205[16:44:02] <this_paradis> kreyren: Life is Strange, Dreamfall, Dota 2, CS:GO, Gothic, Freespace 2
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1208[16:46:03] <kreyren> this_paradis, thanks ^-^
1209[16:46:07] <kreyren> what is Dreamfall and Freespace 2?
1210[16:47:13] <this_paradis> adventure and spaceship sim
1211[16:47:56] <kreyren> I see O.o
1212[16:48:28] <sussudio> dD__: did you google that error? looks like it's likely what i said before; bad sata cable or not seated correctly at either side.
1213[16:48:30] <annadane> dreamfall is the sequel to the longest journey so you may wish to play that one first
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1216[16:48:53] <annadane> you'll miss context otherwise
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1226[16:56:32] <dD__> sussudio: I did, but the problem is that I already changed the cable, the SATA port, used compressed air, made sure it's seated correctly, and up to now nothing
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1235[17:02:21] <sussudio> dD__: powerconnector could be bad too. also, this "openmediavault" is not debian, just based on it.
1236[17:04:09] <sussudio> google also suggests disabling native command queueing to see if that fixes is, if it isn't a hardware problem (which most likely it is)
1237[17:07:20] <sussudio> oh, it even mentions ncq in the error message.
1238[17:07:23] <dD__> sussudio: I did blow compressed air into the power connector but left it in the same place. But maybe i'll change it, power supply is also new
1239[17:07:31] <dD__> what is NCQ?
1240[17:07:33] <dD__> googling it
1241[17:07:51] <sussudio> what i said in the line before
1242[17:08:30] <dD__> My problem is that after 24 hours I get this error message: replaced-url
1243[17:08:42] <dD__> SSD is almost new but I'm guessing that it might just be a faulty one?
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1246[17:10:24] <sussudio> did you run a smart test on it
1247[17:11:19] <ImL8> depending on the brand of ssd, there may be a tool to test it. I don't know if they make them for linux though
1248[17:11:33] <dD__> sussudio: yes, found nothing: replaced-url
1249[17:12:04] <dD__> ImL8: it's kingston, I ran it on medicat and it didn't find any problem with it
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1251[17:13:06] <dD__> ran the diagnostics tools on medicat*
1252[17:14:52] <jmd> At replaced-url
1253[17:14:52] <jmd> "BLOCKED: Rejected/violates migration policy/introduces a regression"
1254[17:14:52] <jmd> but it doesn't say why it is blocked or which policy is violated nor any
1255[17:14:52] <jmd> other details. How can I get more information and/or fix this?
1256[17:15:18] <greycat> probably by clicking on it
1257[17:15:31] <jmd> It's not a link. Just text.
1258[17:15:59] <greycat> there's a new item that's only 2 days old, which might override that
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1260[17:17:02] <greycat> beyond that, who knows... read the bug tracker, or ask the maintainers
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1269[17:26:13] <Haohmaru> ,v qucs
1270[17:26:14] <judd> No package named 'qucs' was found in amd64.
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1459[19:54:03] <buu> [ 2281.047438] FS-Cache: Loaded
1460[19:54:04] <buu> [ 2281.058928] FS-Cache: Netfs 'nfs' registered for caching
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1463[19:54:34] <buu> Gah, sorry
1464[19:54:42] <buu> This is a kernel panic right? replaced-url
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1471[20:00:05] <sney> sure is
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1478[20:08:00] <Thedarkb1> Hi, I've installed libgtk-3-dev but gtk/gtk.h isn't in my library path.
1479[20:10:25] <sney> ,file gtk/gtk.h
1480[20:10:29] <judd> Search for gtk/gtk.h in buster/amd64: libgtk-3-dev: usr/include/gtk-3.0/gtk/gtk.h; libgtk2.0-dev: usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h
1481[20:10:37] <dvs> Thedarkb1, you need to include /usr/include/gtk-3.0/ to your include path
1482[20:10:52] <Thedarkb1> Thank you.
1483[20:11:22] <greycat> there's probably some magic pkg-config command that you're supposed to run from your Makefile to generate the -I flags for cc
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1495[20:21:23] <tw> --cflags or --cflags-only-I
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1498[20:23:49] <tw> Oh, I guess the hard part is knowing to use --cflags gtk-3.0 to pull the proper library.
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1542[20:55:46] <cronolio> hello, where i can fing out default /etc/ld.so.conf for debian 10 ?
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1544[20:56:18] <greycat> include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
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1546[20:56:28] <greycat> plus a blank line for some reason
1547[20:57:07] <cronolio> thanks, looks like i am override it with my experiments
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1566[21:19:35] <otisolsen70> Is there a way to see what installed packages takes up what space? I.e. make a list of packages by size so that I can remove stuff to clean up?
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1577[21:28:29] <jmcnaught> otisolsen70: the debian-goodies package has a dpigs command that does this.
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1581[21:29:33] <badsektor> dude try this: sudo apt install calibre --install-suggests. it wants to download 4 gb of files and needs 11 gb space in total
1582[21:29:50] <badsektor> just an epub reader
1583[21:30:50] <joepublic> that's kind of like saying Libreoffice is just an epub reader.
1584[21:30:51] <otisolsen70> jmcnaught, thanks!
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1586[21:32:52] <badsektor> joepublic, that prompted me to google the software, in its website it says the guy who develops calibre is called Kovid Goyal. what a name
1587[21:33:31] <badsektor> joepublic, btw, your analogy would be better if you said "libreoffice is just a text editor"
1588[21:33:35] <joepublic> I know, right? First name, last name, jammed together like that. How dare he. Well, nice talkin to you.
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1590[21:33:44] <badsektor> libreoffice can't read epub, can it?
1591[21:34:05] <badsektor> joepublic, why are you stuck up man? what is your problem?
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1691[22:50:27] <yanmaani> My computer is extremely slow, as if it were out of RAM, but I have a full gigabyte free.
1692[22:50:46] <yanmaani> This happens when e.g. /tmp/ is full, but it isn't. Any other things which can do this?
1693[22:51:25] <annadane> have you checked htop/iotop?
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1697[22:54:51] <LaScoumoune_> cat /proc/meminfo
1698[22:54:54] <LaScoumoune_> vmstat -s
1699[22:55:01] <LaScoumoune_> sudo dmidecode -t 17
1700[22:55:03] <LaScoumoune_> free -m
1701[22:55:05] <LaScoumoune_> df -h
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1706[22:58:49] <velix> Hmm, `apt update` suddenly gives me wired results: `/usr/bin/apt-key: 57: /usr/bin/apt-key: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied`
1707[22:59:31] <velix> `/dev/null` belongs to root. `echo 1 > /dev/null` works.
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1712[23:00:58] <greycat> Is it a character file, or a regular file?
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1714[23:01:10] <greycat> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 May 9 08:04 /dev/null
1715[23:01:21] <greycat> Are the permissions correct (666)?
1716[23:01:48] <greycat> Is there any chance your error message is coming from a process that is chrooted?
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1718[23:02:41] <velix> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 23 21:00 /dev/null
1719[23:02:53] <greycat> So, two issues. Wrong type of file, and wrong permissions.
1720[23:03:04] <velix> Interesting.
1721[23:03:29] <velix> let me google, how to fix it
1722[23:03:35] <greycat> The question is, what happened to your /dev/null? Is the whole /dev file system mounted incorrectly?
1723[23:03:49] <velix> greycat: No other problems occured.
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1726[23:04:08] <greycat> are things like /dev/zero correct?
1727[23:04:30] <velix> 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 5 Jun 14 21:01 /dev/zero
1728[23:04:32] <velix> looks well
1729[23:04:34] <greycat> aye
1730[23:04:38] <velix> greycat: mknod -m 0666 /dev/null c 1 3 ?
1731[23:04:55] <greycat> I haven't had to use mknod in *ages*... you can try
1732[23:05:10] <velix> yeah
1733[23:05:14] <velix> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 23 21:05 /dev/null
1734[23:05:25] <velix> let me update
1735[23:05:33] <velix> Works again. Crazy.
1736[23:05:36] <velix> Thanks
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1738[23:06:08] <velix> Hehe, perhaps I was tired and did a "mv x /dev/null"? :D
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1740[23:06:34] <velix> Does this work?
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1746[23:08:57] <otisolsen70> Is it possible to see HEIC images on Debian? If so, what tools do I need?
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1748[23:09:08] <yanmaani> annadane: Yeah, it tells me the memory isn't full.
1749[23:09:56] <yanmaani> LaScoumoune_: 0.5GB of shared and 0.8GB of buff/cache.
1750[23:10:22] <yanmaani> if there are "/tmp/ full" type incidents, which one of these would it count towards?
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1756[23:14:04] <annadane> yanmaani, i'm not sure; someone else might know if you stick around though. btw sorry for the lack of ping before, i need to get used to that when addressing people on irc
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1758[23:15:06] <LaScoumoune_> yanmaani: when you say it's slow, how it's slow ?
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1761[23:16:39] <LaScoumoune_> htop is a great cmd real time
1762[23:16:54] <LaScoumoune_> for see if is the process or the memory
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1764[23:17:38] <blurkis> I installed debian stable, then upgraded to testing. I havent done much changes besides that. When I run apt-get update/upgrade it seems the upgrades are already downloaded. Not a problem really, just curius.. does debian download upgrades in background?
1765[23:17:49] <yanmaani> LaScoumoune_: The mouse cursor is slow when moving around, things are generally extremely unresponsive. It's stopped now, but I'd like to know what's the cause
1766[23:18:07] <LaScoumoune_> okkkk
1767[23:18:25] <LaScoumoune_> and the cmd shell ?
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1769[23:19:38] <LaScoumoune_> you don't have run a script look that empty a folder ? i say that because i have do that one time
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1771[23:20:36] <annadane> blurkis, if you just updated then i don't expect immediate upgrades; one decent way to check is the package-update-indicator package (GUI application)
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1775[23:20:55] <annadane> testing isn't like sid where you'll get updates every day and also it depends how much you installed
1776[23:21:06] <yanmaani> LaScoumoune_: The cmd shell? A script that empties a folder?
1777[23:21:19] <yanmaani> I have a terminal and I can run htop in it and it tells me that I have about a gigabyte free.
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1779[23:21:39] <LaScoumoune_> sorry for my english
1780[23:21:53] <blurkis> annadane: My bad. Sorry. Its Sid im running. By choise.
1781[23:22:16] <blurkis> annadane: I just wondered if it downloads upgrades in the background. Seemd like it.
1782[23:22:28] <annadane> blurkis, i'd probably go ask #debian-next on the oftc network
1783[23:22:35] <annadane> typically it won't download upgrades by default
1784[23:22:53] <annadane> you can check /var/log/apt/history.log though
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1789[23:25:37] <LaScoumoune_> yanmaani: so that only you're cursor mouse ?
1790[23:26:28] <LaScoumoune_> if you have %mem & %cpu free and disk free
1791[23:26:54] <LaScoumoune_> and if it's only the mouse
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1793[23:27:12] <LaScoumoune_> so check you're mouse or the usb connect
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1801[23:37:46] <velix> Can I create a copy-target, which links to /dev/null ?
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1809[23:44:38] <greycat> You can create a symlink to /dev/null. Anything that writes to your symlink will be writing to /dev/null.
1810[23:44:50] <greycat> I don't know what a "copy-target" is.
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1814[23:47:09] <velix> greycat: Something like a sink or /dev/null filesystem.
1815[23:47:11] <velix> Oh, let me google this
1816[23:47:28] <velix> replaced-url
1817[23:47:31] <velix> Ha! nullfs in fuse
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1820[23:48:39] <jhutchins> yanmaani: Use top, ps ax, and netstat -anp and figure out what every one of those entries is there for.
1821[23:49:40] <jhutchins> velix: Why would you overcomplicate things and not just use /dev/null?
1822[23:49:55] <velix> jhutchins: Because many tools don't support piping on output.
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1829[23:54:28] <yanmaani> LaScoumoune_: No, Everything becomes extremely unresponsive. Mouse, keyboard, everything. Clock doesn't update, and it becomes normal-ish whenever I do alt-sysrq-F to kill a random process.
1830[23:54:41] <yanmaani> If the CPU is maxed out, that doesn't make my system unresponsive. Neither if disk is full.
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1833[23:56:33] <velix> urgs, this actually makes no sense: It's VFS on tmpfs?? replaced-url
1834[23:57:03] <LaScoumoune_> sorry but fasle, i have make a wrong program one time and that full my disk, all is low, for the cpu too.
1835[23:57:20] <LaScoumoune_> But that a fresh install you have make ?
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1837[23:58:07] <LaScoumoune_> sometime the better solution is make a back-up and reinstall, but need more info for why that slow
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