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7[00:03:25] <beepboopbeep> not very active tremon
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17[00:05:08] <annadane> beepboopbeep, you're aware . means
hidden folder, right?
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19[00:05:19] <heistheone> So my sources.list show
'testing' and yet I recently realized all my packages are
from sid (gnome 2.26, kernel 4.13,etc...) Whats the dealio?
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21[00:05:36] <annadane> heistheone, you should take this to
#debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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22[00:06:05] <heistheone> annadane: roger that
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24[00:06:09] <annadane> ah, i see you mention other .folders,
sorry.
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31[00:08:12] <beepboopbeep> i see all the .folders
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33[00:08:28] <beepboopbeep> it doesn't exist in there
annadane
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40[00:10:09] <beepboopbeep> i wish i could hide all the
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42[00:11:09] <annadane> you probably can, depending on your irc
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43[00:11:27] <beepboopbeep> its web client i couldn't
install x chat
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45[00:11:56] <annadane> it'd be helpful if you were more
specific
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49[00:12:47] <beepboopbeep> i just want to focus on wine for
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50[00:12:59] <beepboopbeep> its the highest priority
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51[00:13:15] <annadane> fair enough
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55[00:15:11] <beepboopbeep> i watched a video on installation
of wine, we he runs the winecfg alot of commands are runing, not in
my case it only opens it(its fully fanction) but doesn't do
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56[00:15:21] <beepboopbeep> like making the .wine folder
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57[00:15:27] <beepboopbeep> shrugs
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67[00:20:22] <aLLamox>
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68[00:21:02] <aLLamox> I have the same linux version as in the
tutorial Just my release is Release: 8.6 in the tut it's 8.1
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70[00:21:41] <aLLamox> I got this error
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73[00:23:04] <aLLamox> any comments?!
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76[00:23:48] <imMute> aLLamox: "This service allows sftp
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83[00:27:15] <aLLamox> imMute: No it's not this I think
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84[00:27:20] <aLLamox> . /bin/bash: Permission denied
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85[00:27:28] <aLLamox> Could not chdir to home directory
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86[00:27:32] <aLLamox> I got bored from this shit
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144[00:58:02] <lopknod> hello
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146[00:58:29] <lopknod> Loading new zfs-0.6.5.9 DKMS files...
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147[00:58:29] <lopknod> Building for 4.9.0-3-amd64
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148[00:59:03] <lopknod> the available headers are
linux-headers-4.9.0-4-amd64
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149[00:59:19] <lopknod> how can i solve that?
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150[00:59:39] <lopknod> i want to install zfs-dkms
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151[01:00:04] <bazhang> ,v zfs-dkms
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152[01:00:06] <judd> Package: zfs-dkms on amd64 --
jessie-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.9-2~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib:
0.6.5.9-5; jessie-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1~bpo8+1;
stretch-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib:
0.6.5.11-1; sid/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1
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153[01:01:08] <lopknod> mine is contrib
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154[01:01:21] <lopknod> stretch
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156[01:02:36] <lopknod> bazhang is this your answer?
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157[01:02:49] <annadane> ,v linux-headers-4.9.0-4-amd64
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158[01:02:50] <judd> Package: linux-headers-4.9.0-4-amd64 on
amd64 -- stretch: 4.9.51-1
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159[01:03:03] <annadane> lopknod, it's possible you
haven't upgraded to 9.2
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161[01:03:16] <lopknod> i did just install
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162[01:03:17] <bazhang> lopknod, why would you ever compile
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165[01:04:01] <lopknod> ok i will upgrade
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177[01:07:26] <lopknod> thx
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182[01:10:04] <lopknod> i have the funny situation that i cant
reach a network but being here
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192[01:13:07] <lopknod> my other box have a configuration that
suck me in
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215[01:27:16] <random_numbers> So after modifying files under
/usr/share/dbus-1/services, which daemon should I restart for
notification to be taken into account?
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220[01:29:24] <hwpplayer1> Hi Debian !
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221[01:29:41] <hwpplayer1> #debian-science is not registered why
?
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224[01:30:02] <hwpplayer1> Any science team member here ?
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225[01:30:55] <random_numbers> I'm afraid the
channel's fairly quiet currently.
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243[01:38:05] <lopknod> Building for 4.9.0-3-amd64
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244[01:38:05] <lopknod> Module build for kernel 4.9.0-3-amd64
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245[01:38:05] <lopknod> kernel headers for this kernel does not
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247[01:38:13] <lopknod> still same problem
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248[01:38:28] <lopknod> with zfs-dkms
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253[01:40:09] <ransur0t> I'm having an issue with the
recent 9.2 point release update: evolution-common fails to install.
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257[01:42:12] <dtux> does LVM get set up on top of encrypted
partitions or the other way around?
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258[01:42:44] <bazhang> dtux did you mean luks on lvm?
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260[01:43:19] <random_numbers> hwpplayer1: I don't really
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261[01:43:19] <qman__> dtux: either-or, depends on what you want
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262[01:43:44] <dtux> bazhang: i guess? not entirely sure, im in
the debian installer atm.
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263[01:43:45] <hwpplayer1> random_numbers : i'll be there
as a member
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264[01:43:54] <dtux> qman__: both! haha
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265[01:43:59] <dtux> what's the diff?
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266[01:44:05] <lopknod> Building for 4.9.0-3-amd64
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267[01:44:17] <lopknod> the backports zfs-dkms wants this kernel
too
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268[01:44:39] <qman__> dtux: if you do lvm on top of dm-crypt,
then you have one encrypted volume, with any number of LVM volumes
inside of it - only one set of encrypt/decrypt, and only one
passphrase/key
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269[01:44:46] <random_numbers> Did ZFS fix that thing where any
increase in drive numbers means you have to double the pool?
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270[01:45:13] <qman__> dtux: if you do dm-crypt on top of LVM,
you have one encrypted volume per LVM volume, different
keys/passphrases, different encryption processes, and you can
encrypt some volumes and not others if you want
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271[01:46:18] <dtux> ah, interesting
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272[01:46:19] <NEOalquimista> IIRC, the latter (dm-crypt on top
of LVM) is best if you want to easily resize the LVM partitions
later.
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280[01:47:47] <NEOalquimista> No, I think I'm wrong.
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281[01:48:04] <dtux> is lvm actually required here?
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282[01:48:06] <NEOalquimista> It's about having multiple
disks.
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285[01:48:52] <qman__> dtux: no, you don't have to use LVM
if you don't want to, you can create a dm-crypt volume and put
a filesystem on it
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289[01:49:17] <qman__> you do lose the features of LVM by doing
that, of course
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292[01:49:50] <dtux> well, i dont really anticipate needing to
resize (esp without replacing the drives)
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294[01:50:02] <dtux> is it kindof a no-brainer that everyone
usually installs LVM?
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295[01:50:17] <qman__> I wouldn't say that, but
there's not much downside, a few megs of space lost
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296[01:50:20] <bazhang> never done it
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297[01:50:34] <dtux> bazhang: me neither
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298[01:50:49] <dtux> i think i may opt into it for my
workstation since its flash and im not going to RAID it
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299[01:50:50] <bazhang> nary a reason to
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300[01:51:07] <dtux> 2 flash disks i mean
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the device mapper itself, but obviously dm-crypt uses it too, so you
still have it regardless
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312[02:00:27] <dtux> without LVM, will i have 2 passwords? one
for my main system and one for the swap raid volume? does LVM even
affect that?
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password management.
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322[02:02:29] <dtux> random_numbers: well, i was thinking if i
had lvm inside 1 raid volume, then i could run the system on a
logical partition and the swap on another, then only need 1 password
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323[02:03:10] <NEOalquimista> for the swap, you could set it up
to be encrypted with a random password at startup and then
discarded. Swap isn't meant to survive a reboot, anyway.
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324[02:03:34] <random_numbers> The downside is no hibernation.
But that's broken on so many systems it's probably
disregardable.
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330[02:07:02] <dtux> interesting.. looks like that one
encourages lvm so i can use the logical volume name
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333[02:10:12] <dtux> NEOalquimista: when would i configure that?
after my first boot?
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345[02:19:14] <aLLamox> I # it and un# it again still I have
bin/bash permission denied
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351[02:22:05] <lopknod> i did have 2 kernels and have to remove
one but i did install a newer one why is that,that the old was not
gone without pain
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356[02:25:56] <andreas--> hello.. I'm trying to change
Local time on debian 9 to UTC but I failed. dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
ufortunately doesnt work for me. any idea?
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357[02:29:22] <Brigo> andreas-- what's the problem with
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359[02:30:11] <dtux> thoughts on this? "/boot can be
encrypted also, but it is likely more trouble than it is worth"
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360[02:30:18] <andreas--> I choose "None of the above"
-> "UTC" -> OK but the Local time doesnt change from
EEST.
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370[02:40:33] <buu> Ok, I can't umount a mountpoint because
it's busy but neither lsof nor fuser show any processes
accessing it
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371[02:40:38] <buu> Where else can I look
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378[02:42:34] <random_numbers> andreas--: In your current
terminal it shouldn't change until you reopen it. Assuming
timezone isn't set in your session, profile or shell config.
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381[02:44:09] <andreas--> random_numbers, I reboot the box and
EEST is still there.
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382[02:44:20] <random_numbers> Then it's probably another
config.
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383[02:44:42] <NEOalquimista> dtux: IIRC, encrypting /boot will
prevent tampering with the bootloader, but requires physical access
to your computer. Much like Secure Boot. It's additional
security, but complicates things a little more. With your root
partition encrypted, your data is still secure in the same way as it
would with or without encrypted /boot
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385[02:45:20] <random_numbers> Encrypting boot is useless
because the bootloader can still be tampered with.
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386[02:45:46] <random_numbers> And with Secure Boot the
bootloader can be secured and the kernel verified.
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388[02:46:02] <random_numbers> So you get essentially nothing
except a slight performance hit.
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391[02:46:26] <NEOalquimista> I think only openSUSE encrypts
/boot by default. All distros I tried didn't do it.
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392[02:46:57] <dtux> interesting, thanks
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397[02:48:09] <random_numbers> A cheaper but easier option can
be running a HIDS that does auditing for the computers in a network.
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398[02:48:21] <random_numbers> (Assuming you'd need to buy
new computers for Secure Boot)
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401[02:49:25] <Tramp> andreas--: does your /etc/localtime point
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402[02:49:36] <NEOalquimista> dtux: about the swap encryption,
you first create a normal unencrypted swap partition, and after your
system is ready, you edit /etc/crypttab using /dev/urandom as
<password>
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403[02:49:55] <NEOalquimista> but check that link I sent you
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404[02:50:07] <andreas--> Tramp, yes
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405[02:50:22] <Tramp> andreas--: and "date" reports
the wrong time?
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406[02:50:30] <NEOalquimista> sorry, correction: the swap needs
to be plain dm-crypt
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408[02:50:41] <NEOalquimista> outside LVM
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409[02:50:47] <andreas--> yes
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410[02:51:05] <andreas--> reports EEST date
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413[02:51:57] <Tramp> andreas--: do youset an environment
variable TZ manually somehwere?
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414[02:52:05] <andreas--> nop, never
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416[02:53:58] <Tramp> you verified that with "echo
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418[02:54:56] <random_numbers> Some display managers might try
to do some magic which may disturb those settings.
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reinstalling tzdata..
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519[03:58:49] <gglasses> hey all. i'm back now with debian
9 yay
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521[03:59:18] <gglasses> should i apt-get update & apt-get
upgrade to update all my software?
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524[04:00:18] <Vasistha> gglasses: generally a good idea,
although if you just did an install you're probably up-to-date
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526[04:01:05] <gglasses> Vasistha, it troubles me that it comes
with Firefox 45 though
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527[04:01:26] <Vasistha> gglasses: there are other web browsers
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528[04:02:12] <Vasistha> gglasses: oh wait. I'm seeing ff
52
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530[04:03:06] <dtux> NEOalquimista: is Random Key the same thing
that you were describing?
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531[04:03:19] <gglasses> What do you mean Vasistha ?
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536[04:04:39] <dtux> NEOalquimista: indeed :)
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538[04:06:25] <NEOalquimista> dtux: yes, that's it!
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539[04:06:56] <NEOalquimista> dtux: About your partition
layouts, you'll have to forgive me, I never used RAID and I
don't know a thing about it :/
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558[04:18:34] <Vasistha> gglasses:
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562[04:21:42] <gglasses> Thanks Vasistha
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566[04:25:20] <dtux> NEOalquimista: it's pretty easy, you
just set up parallel partitions on each drive and make a raid volume
out of them which you can use as if it were a partition on a single
disk.
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589[04:37:45] <andrej> Looking at /var/log/apt/history.log ...
when running an install via ansible I see both -o
Dpkg::Options::=--force-confdef -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold
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590[04:37:53] <andrej> which of these two options takes?
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592[04:38:51] <andrej> My problem is that installing a random
package seemingly replaced the machines exim4 config with the
package-maintainers one ... not cool, especially if the package is
unrelated to exim ;/
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609[04:49:36] <random_numbers> gglasses: Yeah, 45 got dropped,
so even Jessie's got 52 now.
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651[05:17:51] <gglasses> Google Chrome is not supported by
Debian Stretch? I downloaded a .deb and it says file not supported
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654[05:21:39] <prasket> @gglasses: ver 60 is supported in debian
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655[05:21:52] <jaxson> gglasses, do a google search on
'debian google chrome' and there are pages which will show
you how to install..
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656[05:22:05] <themill> what does 'it says file not
supported' mean?
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657[05:22:11] <jaxson> my preference would be to grab chromium
or iron ..
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663[05:26:04] <gglasses> Thanks found some documentation
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672[05:31:59] <annadane> gglasses, .deb from where, i recommend
not using software outside the repository
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674[05:32:37] <annadane> bah, never mind, i'm tired of
arguing this
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675[05:32:43] * annadane happily feigns ignorance
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676[05:33:19] <gglasses> annadane, i'd love to learn
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677[05:33:34] <gglasses> so bad you gave up now. *cof cof
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679[05:34:49] <annadane> well, like, you can use chrome without
using a .deb... if it's not in the official debian repository
it can potentially break your system to install random .deb's,
as well as there being trust issues
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680[05:35:14] <annadane> i'll sidestep the whole
"chrome has trust issues anyway, you should use things that
don't harvest your data" debate
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681[05:36:57] <binsey> I also worry that Google offers CAPTCHA
solutions to popular websites such as the New York Times and then
preferentially blocks competing browsers, in an attempt to nudge
people to use Chrome.
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682[05:37:00] <annadane> there's always chromium, which is
what chrome is build off of
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683[05:37:22] <gglasses> thanks for that annadane !!
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684[05:37:24] <annadane> that being said, i'll still
recommend firefox forever over chrome, especially nightly which is
57 which is very fast
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685[05:37:29] <random_numbers> It strongly annoys me to have
javascript-based captchas around.
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686[05:37:43] <annadane> sorry for the lecture but doing stuff
like that isn't really "the debian way" and it's
better to learn to do it properly
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687[05:37:46] <random_numbers> annadane: I hear 63 is twice as
fast as Chrome?
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688[05:37:59] <Voldenet> having a captcha that detects your
mouse movements to tell if you're human is awesome and not
spooky at all
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690[05:38:18] <random_numbers> Voldenet: It's a huge
annoyance because I use Javascript on a white-listing basis.
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691[05:38:23] <gglasses> annadane, i thank you a lot for
lecturing, i'd rather have a lecture than to do stupid things
but i totally get you're tired of lecturing over and over again
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692[05:38:30] <Voldenet> random_numbers: me too, I know what you
mean
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694[05:38:50] <binsey> random_numbers: agreed. But did you know
that in some instances the CAPTCHAs don't even load when you
bring the wrong browser, effectively blocking you from using the
site at all?
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697[05:39:23] <gglasses> annadane, i love firefox too, it's
my favorite browser since i started using the web... i just
couldn't get debian to update it. it's still 45 for me :(
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698[05:39:29] <binsey> random_numbers: as well you should.
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699[05:39:31] <random_numbers> binsey: I did not but I can
believe it.
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700[05:40:00] <Voldenet> not using such sites solves the problem
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702[05:40:11] <random_numbers> OS-33052: You might enjoy clients
with autojoin configs like weechat or irssi.
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703[05:40:43] <themill> gglasses: maybe we should address the
firefox issue then...
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704[05:40:45] <annadane> ,v firefox-esr
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705[05:40:47] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie:
45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release:
52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1;
jessie-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security:
52.4.0esr-2~deb7u1; buster: 52.4.0esr-2; sid: 52.4.0esr-2
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707[05:40:52] <binsey> Voldenet: not really; people don't
have as much choice as you think. When popular sites like NYT do it,
which they are now, then it is pernicious.
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708[05:40:55] <annadane> oh, you mean technical error
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709[05:41:19] <annadane> right, well, you don't have to use
esr, you can also download any version of firefox and then use the
profile manager to keep the two versions seperate, or just purge esr
entirely
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711[05:41:26] <random_numbers> Voldenet: binsey: The only
solution is FOSS userscrips that fix those sites.
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712[05:41:28] <annadane> but as mill said, maybe address that
issue
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713[05:41:33] <gglasses> yes
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714[05:41:40] <gglasses> i'd love that
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716[05:42:32] <gglasses> what's the easiest way to get an
updated version of ff? i don't mind keeping 45 around
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717[05:42:32] <annadane> i downloaded the newest stable which is
56, put it on the desktop inside its own seperate folder so that
it's not in home and then when i start one or the other version
of firefox i set the profile manager to use either one or the other
profile
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718[05:42:44] <annadane> using firefox -p from the command line
and unchecking "always use..."
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719[05:42:50] <binsey> random_numbers: sure. Such scripts work
today, but imagine if in the future the scripts use HTTP DRM and
challenge-response on built-in license keys?
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721[05:43:10] <annadane> gglasses, well, use the firefox website
to download the tar and extract it somewhere
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722[05:43:24] <gglasses> annadane, doing that rn
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723[05:43:29] <annadane> gglasses, "latest" firefox is
any number of things, there's beta, developer and nightly
editions as well as the "mainstream version"
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724[05:43:33] <annadane> which is 56 something
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725[05:43:41] <random_numbers> binsey: That is a terrible image.
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729[05:43:53] <Voldenet> binsey: what an utterly dystopian
future, but I can believe it could happen at some point
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730[05:43:57] <gglasses> nightly is the one you recommend
annadane ?
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731[05:44:06] <Voldenet> that's what people will get for
using browser and captchas system from ads provider...
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732[05:44:14] <annadane> i don't really
"recommend" any, it depends on the features you want
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733[05:44:20] <annadane> the firefox website can explain much
better than i can
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734[05:44:21] <random_numbers> I persist in believing those
validation schemes could be Reverse Engineered all the same, but
it's a terrible thing that it could happen at all.
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736[05:44:34] <themill> gglasses: sticking to the Debian package
has merits.
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737[05:44:38] <annadane> but nightly is 57 which really does
have massive speed improvements over anything else
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738[05:44:38] <random_numbers> As in, that Reverse Engineering
becomes necessary.
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741[05:45:11] <gglasses> thanks themill
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743[05:45:27] <gglasses> thanks too annadane :)
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745[05:45:57] <annadane> as a side note, you can use whatever
versions of programs you want if they're standalone, like
firefox has a tar so you're running a standalone executable as
opposed to a .deb which physically installs
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746[05:46:04] <annadane> random .deb's cause problems
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747[05:46:11] <annadane> despite the fact that people like to do
it anyway
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749[05:46:41] <gglasses> it certainly doesn't seem that way
but i love to keep my system as clean as possible
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750[05:47:37] <annadane> but yes i and many others would object
to chrome and even chromium on purely ideological grounds but
that's your choice
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752[05:48:46] <annadane> the complaint has usually been
"but chrome is faster than firefox" which, 57 kind of
defeats that argument
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754[05:49:04] <annadane> though keep in mind 57 is technically
sort of beta
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756[05:49:34] <annadane> although i will also say in passing, if
you can't update firefox-esr you might have deeper issues on
your system and it's good to resolve that
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758[05:49:55] <gglasses> annadane, i just installed my system
today, haven't done much with it
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759[05:50:00] <OS-32963> /join #offsec
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760[05:50:02] <annadane> oh
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763[05:50:32] <annadane> might be a 9.2 thing though that
released yesterday so the mirrors should have all been up to date
but perhaps noy
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764[05:50:34] <annadane> not
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767[05:50:42] <random_numbers> My mirrors aren't.
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768[05:50:50] <gglasses> and btw, i love what you said, i try to
choose security and privacy over comfort whenever possible
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769[05:50:52] <annadane> can try deb.debian.org
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770[05:50:59] <random_numbers> And I'm vaguely annoyed I
chose yesterday to upgrade one of my machines... right before 9.2
release.
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771[05:51:00] <annadane> which is a redirect
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772[05:51:05] <gglasses> mm i actually installed 9.1.0
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774[05:51:45] <gglasses> i downloaded the image a few days ago
and installed till today... i'm lazy like that, on a Sunday
night... hours before work lol
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775[05:51:50] <random_numbers> Hmm... by the time I installed
the site probably had updated. I downloaded the image ahead of time.
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776[05:53:16] <gglasses> annnd now i have ff 56. thanks for the
lecture annadane, it totally paid off
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778[05:53:29] <annadane> i imagine most mirrors should be
updated by now anyway if you wanted to try an update
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779[05:53:52] <annadane> gglasses, just mind to keep your
configuration folders and profile managers etc seperate from each
other, it's why i put it in a folder on the desktop
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784[05:54:25] <gglasses> mmm ok, will do
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785[05:54:38] <annadane> and also because ff 56 is standalone it
won't be updated through apt, but you can set it to automatic
updates or manual, if you choose manual going to "help -
about" will check for updates
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786[05:55:55] <annadane> also
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787[05:56:40] <annadane> actually probably deb.debian.org is bad
because it might choose a non updated mirror
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789[05:57:48] <gglasses> how can you differentiate non-updated
mirror?
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791[05:58:18] <annadane> well, you'll run into update
issues
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792[05:58:35] <annadane> you can't really check ahead of
time afaik
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794[05:59:03] <gglasses> :)
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795[05:59:36] <annadane> i imagine the primary mirrors will be
updated faster than the secondary ones but that's just a guess
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796[05:59:49] <annadane> though they might be swamped from all
the people updating to 9.2 i guess
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800[06:00:09] <gglasses> i can imagine
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801[06:00:16] <gglasses> i believe i'll just wait a few
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803[06:00:45] <annadane> up to you... some of those updates are
security updates so don't put it off too much
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805[06:02:04] <ransur0t> jelly: I fixed the evolution-common
update issue by using dpkg -i --force-all command. Then reinstalled
linux-image-amd64 and the latest kernel using apt full-upgrade. All
is well again. :)
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806[06:04:10] <gglasses> annadane, to update to 9.2 i just need
to `apt-get update & apt-get upgrade`?
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807[06:04:38] <annadane> mhm
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808[06:05:25] <annadane> gglasses, possibly dist-upgrade too if
there's packages not upgraded (i think there's an updated
kernel...?) but pay attention to what apt tells you
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809[06:05:30] <annadane> ie don't accidentally remove 50
packages
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811[06:05:43] <annadane> it's a point release but i doubt
it but i don't know the details
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812[06:05:46] <gglasses> * panicks
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813[06:05:51] <annadane> *so i doubt it
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821[06:07:42] <gglasses> thanks a lot for all the help today
annadane
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822[06:07:48] <annadane> :)
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1050[09:12:57] <zorlan> does debian accept cryptocurrencies as
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1065[09:20:40] <zorlan> ubuntu is losing market share to debian
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1067[09:21:02] <zorlan> it used to be the most popular channel
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1070[09:21:54] <jasabella> <3 debian
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1083[09:30:08] <annadane> zorlan, i mean you could poke around
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1097[09:40:01] <realbadhorse> can someone help me install .otf
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1098[09:40:25] <realbadhorse> i dumped them in ~/.fonts and ran
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1099[09:40:35] <realbadhorse> still cant see them in terminator
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1108[09:44:56] <coldford> good to see still going
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1118[09:49:04] <realbadhorse> /home/anon/.fonts/Monego.otf:
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1125[09:51:50] <Benefit> ^_^ morning
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soon as i mounted some FS with noatime, it isn't working after
remounting it with relatime. Any way to force atime sync once?
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1169[10:09:59] <jelly> lefreut: mount with actual atime?
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1172[10:10:33] <lefreut> jelly: yeah that's what i finally
did (strictatime). thanks
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1178[10:15:26] <abulletforzombie> I broke my python installation
and I can no longer run python applications
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1179[10:15:35] <abulletforzombie> has anyone ever encountered
this?
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1185[10:18:46] <apollo13> yes :D
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1188[10:19:21] <abulletforzombie> apollo13 it happened after I
tried to install something using a root user because installing from
the git repo as user didn't work. I eschewed using a virtual
env
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1192[10:19:57] <apollo13> *sigh* root is not the answer just
because something doesn't work
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1193[10:20:05] <apollo13> revert what you did there and
everything will work again
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1195[10:20:11] <abulletforzombie> The error it was giving me
implied that it was
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1197[10:20:24] <abulletforzombie> how do you uninstall something
via python?
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1199[10:20:30] <apollo13> right you got permission denied errors
and thought root would help :þ
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1200[10:20:31] <apollo13> you don't
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1201[10:20:41] <apollo13> there is no support for it, you
manually have to clean it up
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1202[10:20:54] <apollo13> well pip uninstall might work
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1203[10:21:05] <abulletforzombie> nah it wasn't through pip
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1204[10:21:06] <apollo13> but if python and therefor pip
doesn't work you have to do it manually
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1207[10:21:34] <apollo13> 👍
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1211[10:21:59] <abulletforzombie> indeed, do you know of a good
link to explain where a `python setup.py install` leaves everything?
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1212[10:22:29] <apollo13> assuming it didn't do anything
crazy, /usr/local/lib/pythonXX/dist-packages or site-packages
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1213[10:22:42] <apollo13> given that debian patches stuff to no
end probably dist-packages
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1214[10:23:00] <apollo13> well technically speaking somewhere
inside /usr/local, bin in there will have console scripts and
whatnot…
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1215[10:23:26] <ghormoon> hi, do I need to install some specific
package so update-alternatives --config x-replaced-url
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1217[10:23:43] <abulletforzombie> okay cool, my alternative is
upgrading the hard drive (hdsentinel claims the drive is going to
shit itself anyway so i am not worried about a fresh install)
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1218[10:23:49] * abulletforzombie pulls up his rubbers
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1219[10:23:59] <abulletforzombie> time to go wading into
userspace
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1222[10:25:02] <apollo13> at least next time you will think
before using root ;)
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1223[10:26:02] <abulletforzombie> tbh I am not root crazy :P I
usually know what I am doing, just when pip failed to install with
some permission denied garbage, I read about virtualenv and how
there was no good reason for it not to work through pip
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1224[10:26:16] <abulletforzombie> python on the other hand is a
ball game I haven't played
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1225[10:26:31] <apollo13> pip install --user should have been
your next try
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1226[10:26:42] <apollo13> that would have installed into your
homedir under .local
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1228[10:26:59] <apollo13> kinda easier to clean, if you want
isolation venvs are the way to go
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1230[10:27:41] <ghormoon> hm, it seems it doesn't accept
paths that are not from packages. shoul I just link it manually
without update-alternatives?
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1231[10:27:49] <abulletforzombie> yeah now that I know about
--user I am going to be much safer
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1233[10:28:43] <abulletforzombie> the .egg in question, the one
created from my installation attempt, is now gone
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1236[10:29:07] <apollo13> there will also be egg_info and you
will have to clear references from .pth files
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1238[10:29:20] <apollo13> curious, which software was that?
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1241[10:29:44] <abulletforzombie> hangups, a CLI google hangouts
command that was backwards engineered
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1243[10:30:12] <abulletforzombie> the shitty thing is I
wasn't even sure if I was going ot use it, hadn't even
fully vetted the code
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1244[10:30:34] <bazhang> keep it curse free here abulletforzombie
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1246[10:30:39] <dokma> I've downloaded sources for python3.5
in order to use it with python3.5-dbg but the sources don't
match.
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1250[10:30:47] <abulletforzombie> bazhang roger
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1251[10:30:52] <dokma> How do I get the sources that correspond
to the *-dbg package?
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1252[10:31:12] <apollo13> apt-get source python3.5
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1253[10:31:36] <dokma> that's what I did
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1254[10:31:40] <dokma> it doesn't match
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1257[10:32:04] <abulletforzombie> apollo13 had no apparent
encryption of your google password, but I could be wrong
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1258[10:32:27] <abulletforzombie> I was just tired of pulling out
my phone just to check one chat
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1261[10:34:18] <dryden_x> I asked on the forums but does anyone
know of a ftp client that can be scripted and that will never seek
in a source file?
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1262[10:35:14] <apollo13> dokma: what are you actually trying to
do? that source certainly matches the package, since that is what it
is compiled from
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1263[10:35:24] <apollo13> well the patches need to applied first,
but…
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1265[10:35:39] <dokma> I'm debugging a sigsegv from python
embedding in C++
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1267[10:35:53] <apollo13> dokma: interesting, what are you using?
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1268[10:35:55] <apollo13> pybind11?
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1270[10:36:26] <dokma> It crashes on PyObject_CallFunction
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1271[10:36:32] <dokma> I'm trying to use pyeda from C++
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1272[10:36:41] <dokma> to minimize some gigantic boolean
expressions
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1273[10:37:28] <apollo13> dokma: yeah, but pyeda is python, what
are you using for embedding? the raw c-api?
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1275[10:37:50] <dokma> Yes
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1278[10:38:48] <apollo13> dokma: okay, if you do not have that
much already, you might wanna try pybind11 -- takes the pain away :D
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1281[10:39:45] <abulletforzombie> apollo13 where do I find these
references to .pth files
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1283[10:40:15] <apollo13> abulletforzombie: see if you find files
ending with .pth in /usr/local and then check if they contain the
name of the app you installed
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1286[10:40:58] <abulletforzombie> none
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1288[10:41:16] <apollo13> ok, then you are good
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1289[10:41:23] <dokma> apollo13: seems like I managed to weed
that bug out...
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1290[10:41:36] <abulletforzombie> does the mahcine require a
restart or can I just log out of x and back in?
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1296[10:41:43] <smlx> dryden_x: duplicity uses lftp
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1297[10:41:52] <apollo13> abulletforzombie: not even that
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1298[10:41:53] <dokma> variable naming error
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1299[10:41:55] <apollo13> python should work again
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1300[10:41:56] <dryden_x> I use lftp but it tries to seek.
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1301[10:42:25] <abulletforzombie> PermissionError: [Errno 13]
Permission denied:
'/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/protobuf-3.1.0.post1-py3.5.egg/EGG-INFO/namespace_packages.txt'
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1302[10:43:15] <apollo13> abulletforzombie: when doing what?
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1304[10:43:41] <apollo13> and yeah protobuf was probably one of
the dependencies, you might wanna clear that too
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1306[10:43:51] <abulletforzombie> running a program I use often,
from bash
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1307[10:44:03] <apollo13> full traceback please
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1308[10:44:30] <abulletforzombie>
replaced-url
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1313[10:45:17] <dryden_x> smlx: Duplicity is not a bad idea, I am
trying to do mostly the same but without having to store local files
first.
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1314[10:45:28] <apollo13> abulletforzombie: ls -lisa
/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/protobuf-3.1.0.post1-py3.5.egg/EGG-INFO/namespace_packages.txt
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1315[10:45:34] <dryden_x> smlx: But since it produces the
archives first before uploading them (right) it won't run into
seek behaviour.
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1316[10:45:38] <apollo13> or rather namei on that path
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1318[10:45:45] <apollo13> looks like a weird umask + odd perms
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1321[10:45:56] <dryden_x> smlx: The problem I have is that
I'm trying to upload from a pipe.
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1322[10:45:57] <apollo13> as a quickfix you can always make that
file readable for all users
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1324[10:46:29] <xayto> ./1
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1325[10:46:37] <abulletforzombie> sounds gross, an you explain
the umask and odd perms?
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1326[10:47:17] <dryden_x> smlx: And 99% of the time lftp
doesn't seek and I asked on their mailing list but haven't
had response yet.
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1330[10:48:18] <apollo13> abulletforzombie: I do not know, show
me the perms there first please
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1332[10:48:38] <apollo13> I mean in the end protobuf came in as
dependency of that other app, so you probably should uninstall it
too
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1334[10:49:50] <abulletforzombie> I think you're right I
just tested terminator and it started
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1335[10:50:11] <apollo13> well terminator doesn't use
pkg_resources apparently and that fixes that…
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1351[10:58:00] <abulletforzombie> apollo13 all is well thanks for
the tips! seems like all of my python dependent applications are
working
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1409[11:22:54] <ghormoon> hi, any idea what's wrong with
desktopfile like this
replaced-url
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1421[11:28:25] <Iridos> what's gio?
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1424[11:28:58] <Iridos> if you have a working one that it
recognizes… try to change things bit by bit until one file
matches the other
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1427[11:29:23] <Iridos> mind that it could be something invisible
like different type of linebreaks or tab instead of spaces
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1430[11:30:11] <BCMM> Iridos: had to google it, apparently
replacement for gvfs
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1432[11:30:23] <ghormoon> I don't have any that is from a
browser, but yeah, might need to check whitespace
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1433[11:30:39] <BCMM> sorry, the thing the new gvfs is based on
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1435[11:31:09] <ghormoon> should I use gvfs instead?
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1436[11:31:10] <BCMM> today i learned GnomeVFS and GVfs are not
the same thing...
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1438[11:31:57] <ghormoon> I just wanna force hexchat use browser
as it ignores x-replaced-url
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1447[11:34:36] <BCMM> ghormoon: is the "[Desktop
Entry]" header required by any chance?
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1448[11:34:50] <BCMM> only mentioning it since the .desktop i got
with Firefox has it
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1459[11:38:47] <BCMM> ghormoon: i checked the spec, and the
[Desktop Entry] groupname is compulsory. add that, and see if it
fixes it
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1465[11:40:27] <BCMM> .desktop is basically like a .ini file, and
all keys are meant to be inside a section
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1521[12:15:35] <blip-> hi all, just ssh'ed into the one of
the debian servers that an ex-employee used to manage. Despite the
home directory having drwxr-xr-x permissions, I get an error
'Read-only file system' when trying to touch a file. is
this some security layer? sudo etc doesnt help
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1525[12:17:26] <FinalX> blip-: "read-only file system"
is exactly what it tells you, the file-system is mounted read-only.
check with "mount" and try find out why it's mounted
read-only, then remount it with write permissions.
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1526[12:18:01] <blip-> FinalX, but I'm able to write to
/home, just not /home/user
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1530[12:18:41] <FinalX> doesn't mean it's not a
seperate mount-point, could be per-user homedir encryption with
ecrypt
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1535[12:20:44] <blip-> FinalX, ah, i see. didn't know about
such features. if you don't mind i'll paste the relevant
mount output: /dev/vdb on /home/user type ext4
(ro,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
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1537[12:21:31] <FinalX> there you go, mount specifically for the
user and 'ro'
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1542[12:22:16] <FinalX> maybe it's designed that way for
security/system-integrity, you should check with whoever set it up,
or tread carefully if that's not possible
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1544[12:22:29] <blip-> and this is for security? as in the mount
settings or the file system has corruption and went into RO state?
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1545[12:22:38] <blip-> ok
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1546[12:22:46] <FinalX> but /dev/vdb is an entire harddisk on a
home user, might be a bind mount
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1547[12:22:49] <blip-> i think i will reboot
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1550[12:22:52] <FinalX> and either is possible..
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1551[12:22:59] <FinalX> check /etc/fstab perhaps
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1553[12:23:39] <blip-> FinalX, aha. fstab shows /data/user
mounted to /home/user, with rw
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1554[12:24:07] <blip-> so I guess that indicates system went into
RO state. which is not something ive ever heard of
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1555[12:24:12] <FinalX> and perhaps errors=ro ?
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1556[12:24:34] <blip-> nope: /data/user /home/user auto,rw bind 0
0
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1557[12:24:35] <FinalX> if so, find out what kind of errors it
has before remounting it rw, because you might corrupt it further if
something has happened (fsck it?)
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1559[12:24:47] <FinalX> ok, but that's a bind mount
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1560[12:24:56] <FinalX> the real mount is probably mounted on
/data
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1562[12:25:19] <blip-> FinalX, so i fsck the RO mount, or reboot
first ?
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1563[12:25:20] <abulletforfree> hello helpful people, I just
installed the nvidia drivers from the repos and now xorg can not
recognize any screens. I used nvidia-xconfigure and I still get the
same error message.
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1564[12:25:49] <towo^work> abulletforfree, ynd your hardware is?
...... a notebook?
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1565[12:25:52] <FinalX> blip-: a bind mount is not a real device,
but a directory re-mounted as another directory, in this case
/data/user as /home/user; try finding out what's going on with
/data. that's probably where the real problem is.
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1566[12:26:25] <abulletforfree> towo^work: it's a toshiba
laptop.
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1567[12:26:41] <FinalX> blip-: i'm pretty sure /data is a
real device in /etc/fstab (/dev/vdb probably, judging by your
previous pastes), and that probably is mounted RO due to problems
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1568[12:26:57] <towo^work> abulletforfree, then remove, what you
have installed and read the debian wiki about optimus ==>
bumblebee
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1569[12:27:17] <towo^work> abulletforfree, s/remove/purge
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1570[12:27:20] <abulletforfree> researching
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1574[12:29:35] <ghormoon> BCMM: thanks, that was it
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1575[12:29:37] <abulletforfree> tomo^work my card is not listed
in the optimus product list
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1576[12:29:57] <towo^work> i don't know your secret hardware
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1577[12:30:29] <towo^work> lspci | egrep -i
"vga|3d|display"
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1578[12:30:59] <abulletforfree> It's a GT 520m
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1579[12:31:11] <abulletforfree> which is listed as supported
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1580[12:31:25] <towo^work> use that command!
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1581[12:31:37] <abulletforfree> I am looking at it
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1583[12:32:12] <abulletforfree> GF119M [GeForce GT 520m]
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1584[12:32:22] <towo^work> i want the complete output
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1586[12:32:49] <abulletforfree> how do I yank it from one tty and
paste it into weechat?
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1588[12:33:40] <towo^work> install gpm, start gpm, mark it with
mouse, shift + middleclick in weechat
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1591[12:34:27] <towo^work> but if you get more than 1 line, and
you can't disable the igp in bios, it's optimus and you
have to use bumblebee
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graphics card with the intel CPU, so I need to disable it in the
BIOS, or use bumblebee, will confirm in a restart ty
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2:#debian(+CLPcntzlf 1685 #debian-overflow){1665} [H: 1]
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1603[12:36:51] <abulletforfree> y
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1605[12:37:02] <abulletforfree> woops, also cool thanks for the
gpm tip
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1662[12:55:54] <blip-> FinalX, sorry had a call come in. yes
/data is the real device (from the provider that we rent this
virtual server from). shall I reboot and see if it mounts RW? or i
need to fsck first?
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1666[12:57:09] <FinalX> blip-: I would fsck it first, /etc/fstab
does not mention 'ro' at /data either? syslog might tell
you what went from, or /var/log/messages, if they haven't
scrolled off
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1667[12:57:14] <FinalX> either way an fsck wouldn't hurt
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1674[13:00:15] <blip-> FinalX, there's this entry in mount:
/dev/vdb on /data type ext4
(ro,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
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1676[13:00:51] <blip-> FinalX, and in fstab there's
UUID=bd01026b-94ce-40b7-8b54-97101fa9eef9 /data ext4 defaults 0 0
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1678[13:02:45] <FinalX> blip-: then it should be mounted rw, and
something is up, you should definitely check the filesystem
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1679[13:02:57] <blip-> FinalX, i found something in
/var/log/messages, may i paste it?
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1680[13:03:10] <FinalX> preferably not directly in here if you
can avoid it :)
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1682[13:03:38] <FinalX> please use
replaced-url
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1684[13:04:09] <blip->
replaced-url
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1685[13:04:33] <blip-> yes not here, I'm not *that* clueless
xD
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1687[13:05:12] <FinalX> :) but yes, that clearly shows the
filesystem has (33) errors, fsck /dev/vdb; or if you don't want
to review/correct them all manually, fsck -y /dev/vdb
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1690[13:07:24] <veek> how do you undervolt the cpu in debian? PHC
pkg?
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1701[13:09:39] <blip-> FinalX, thanks. i'll backup important
files then run fsck -y. should i unmount anything prior?
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1703[13:10:53] <FinalX> blip-: since it's mounted read-only,
I don't think you have to. personally I'm not using ext4
anymore, so it's been a while (I moved everything to ZFS (and
ReFS on Windows)).
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1704[13:10:54] <likcoras> Hi, I'm trying to set up a
personal email server, for learning purposes. I'm currently
just researching, and I came across terms like spf, dkim, dmarc. Is
there anything else I should be aware of, and do I even need to
bother with any of those when setting up an email server in debian?
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1705[13:11:08] <FinalX> veek: I found this, might still apply,
but I really don't know;
replaced-url
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1706[13:11:10] <blip-> FinalX, ok. thanks :)
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1707[13:11:27] <veek> FinalX, thanks checking
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1722[13:21:15] <ntz> hello
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1723[13:21:43] <beepboopbeep> hello i install wine and the
.folder doesn't exist(other .folders are visible.)
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1724[13:21:49] <beepboopbeep> installed
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1726[13:22:27] <ntz> I'm terribly annoyed ... I'm
attempting to backup usb disk mounted via fuse (there's exfat)
and there are bad blocks ... no problem with that, but my OS always
freezes when it reaches such a block
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1728[13:22:55] <ntz> do I miss something ? I've read mount
manpage and fusermount but found nothing
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1730[13:23:34] <ntz> it's so stupid that os freezes because
of bad block on filesystem that is not rootfs
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1737[13:26:56] <veek> FinalX, yep :) kind of convoluted still
reading it
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1743[13:32:27] <FinalX> ntz: fuse is quite unstable with disks
that have problems; can't you mount it directly instead of
through fuse?
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1745[13:33:23] <GhostInTheShell> ntz: use ddrescue to make an
image of the disk and then try to mount it and salvage the info
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1748[13:34:54] <ntz> GhostInTheShell: good idea, thanks .... my
probem is that I don't have such a big medium ... this is 3TB
disk filled at 90% :(, I've sucessfully rsynced something like
92/100 of content already and it now always freezes the os in the
last 8/100 because of one file I guess ...
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1752[13:35:26] <ntz> another problem is, that it's virtually
impossible to know what file because as far as it freezes instantly,
no trace or log could be written
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1753[13:36:15] <ntz> eg you can capture log, but the file that
does it is not going to be written there
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1766[13:40:34] <pedrosans> hi, what is the right chanel for
packaging related questions?
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1768[13:40:59] <beepboopbeep> hello i installed wine and the
.folder doesn't exist(other .folders are visible.)
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1771[13:41:22] <tomreyn> ntz: ddrescure -R will "reverse the
direction of all passes", it also keeps log of files it
accessed, so you can find out which ones you need to skip.
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1774[13:41:28] <ntz> beepboopbeep: re-asking a broken question
won't help you that somebody will address it
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1775[13:41:41] <beepboopbeep> how is it broken?
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1777[13:42:48] <ntz> tomreyn: thanks for ddrescue hint ...
anyhow, log won't work because log won't be written for
file on where it stucks
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1779[13:43:39] <tomreyn> ntz: it logs which file it'll read
next before it does
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1780[13:43:46] <ntz> tomreyn: actually my plan B is to install VM
and do the stuff from the (using usb-passthrough for source and
target disks)
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1781[13:44:00] <ntz> **there
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1782[13:44:25] <ntz> tomreyn: oh, thanks, nice, didn't know
this feature .... I was using rsync yet
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1783[13:45:11] <ntz> beepboopbeep: ``hello i installed wine and
the .folder doesn't exist(other .folders are
visible.)'' makes no sense
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1787[13:45:35] <tomreyn> ntz: actually that was nonsense, it
doesn't read file,s it reads blocks, but other than that this
statement was correct.
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1788[13:45:48] <ntz> beepboopbeep: what you mean by
``.folder'' ??? do you mean ``$HOME/.wine'' ???
omg
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1790[13:46:02] <ntz> if so, just run winecfg and exit it
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1791[13:46:15] <beepboopbeep> the folders in home/user who start
with . in the name
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1792[13:46:23] <ntz> that will create something called
$WINEPREFIX located usually in ~/.wine
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1794[13:46:35] <beepboopbeep> winecfg doesn't create the
folder for what ever reason
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1795[13:47:20] <ntz> no packages delivers .dot files to
users' homes ... they are generated by particular app when it
is run
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replaced-url
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1809[13:53:14] <dryden_x> I was asking here about an ftp client
that could do scripted pipe uploads and I found ncftpput works after
I disable the HELP SITE command because the ftp server doesn't
understand it :p.
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1811[13:53:50] <dryden_x> I had so much trouble getting something
that worked with that server in the first place.
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1812[13:54:31] <dryden_x> In fact it probably works so well I
won't have to use a named pipe anymore.
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1843[14:13:41] <lefreut> hey guys
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1846[14:14:16] <lefreut> i have an hsm, that is backed a device
in /dev created with mknod
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1849[14:14:55] <lefreut> the vendor doc state to do a chmod of
it. but the acl don't survive a reboot
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1852[14:15:54] <lefreut> tried to create an udev rule
"KERNEL=="devicenamelikein/dev",NAME="devicenamelikein/dev",
GROUP="groupthatshouldaccessthedevice",
MODE="0660"
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1854[14:16:21] <lefreut> but even with udevadm control -R and
udevadm trigger nothing happen
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1858[14:17:50] <lefreut> am i missing something?
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1863[14:19:12] <MACscr> is postfix crashing on my jessie box? im
seeing these entries every minute
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1865[14:20:18] <donut_> not crashing
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1866[14:20:28] <donut_> pid doesn't change
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1869[14:21:42] <donut_> that script is postfix maintenance script
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1873[14:24:16] <donut_> though not sure why it fires every
minute, my configs are different.
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1875[14:25:06] <Zardoz> man now I want a doughnut... wonder
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1886[14:28:02] <ntz> tomreyn: I have workaround ..... lemme tell
ya
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1888[14:29:16] <MACscr> donut_ hmm, thanks. it is indeed odd.
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1889[14:29:34] <ntz> have already created a directory structure
by rsync and copying files in loop one-by-one with ``rsync -av
--progress --log-file=stdout $origin $dest 2>stderr;
sync''
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1891[14:30:07] <ntz> tomreyn: ^^ this will make sure, that my
logs are synced so in case it freezes I'd be able to know on
what file ....
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1892[14:30:27] <ntz> however heck, I had to do 2>>stderr,
not just >
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1903[14:36:43] <beepboopbeep> what the heck i just found it in
root folder and not in home/user ntz
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1915[14:38:31] <beepboopbeep> how can i view root folder
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1916[14:39:40] <Rumpled> go to / ?
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1929[14:43:20] <Rumpled> beepboopbeep, what are you wanting to do
exactly
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1930[14:43:32] <beepboopbeep> in folder manager rumpled
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1932[14:43:52] <Rumpled> do you mean root's home?
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1933[14:44:06] <beepboopbeep> i just found out my .wine folder is
in root instead of home/user/.wine
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1934[14:44:34] <Rumpled> because you installed it as root. you
can use su - to view those things
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1936[14:45:54] <beepboopbeep> can i install software as regular
user?
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1937[14:46:35] <zorlan> if you are in sudoers
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1938[14:46:48] <Rumpled> run winecfg, it should create a new one
in your own home
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1939[14:47:05] <Rumpled> (i think. i don't use it myself)
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1940[14:47:39] <Rumpled> and don't log in to root whenever
you need to elevate yourself or this stuff will happen due to the
nature of sudo/root
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1941[14:48:09] <zorlan> sudo -i
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1942[14:48:30] <beepboopbeep> holy shit thank you Rumpled
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1943[14:48:43] <beepboopbeep> also i don't have sudo
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1945[14:49:17] <zorlan> sudo -i = su basiclly
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1948[14:50:04] <Rumpled> i think they stopped it in jessie but i
don't know why
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1949[14:50:05] <beepboopbeep> bash: sudo: command not found
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1951[14:50:28] <ntz> zorlan: `sudo -i' == `su -', not
plain su
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1952[14:50:38] <ntz> it's significant difference
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1955[14:51:30] <zorlan> but with su you cant have multiple admin
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1958[14:51:47] <Rumpled> beepboopbeep, just run "su"
and install it
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1963[14:52:28] <zorlan> "apt-get install sudo"
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1964[14:52:28] <towo^work> noting in wine should be installed as
root
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1965[14:52:51] <Rumpled> it's already installed for him
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1966[14:52:52] <towo^work> and wine itself should not be used as
root
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1970[14:53:32] <zorlan> you can run startx as root
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1971[14:54:02] <towo^work> this has what to do with wine?
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1974[14:56:07] <zorlan> you need wine to run irc scripts
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1975[14:56:27] <beepboopbeep> Rumpled: doesn't it install
stuff in root folder then?
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1976[14:56:47] <Rumpled> those annoying 1990s colour things in
mirc? do people still use them?
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1977[14:56:55] <zorlan> mirc scripts are great there isnt
anything like it for linux
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1979[14:57:01] <Rumpled> it does if you're using root to
install
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1981[14:57:39] <beepboopbeep> can i leave su mode to regular mode
without quiting terminal?
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1982[14:57:47] <zorlan> you got love irc clients like its 1980
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1984[14:57:54] <Rumpled> "quit" and you'll return
to your normal user prompt
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1985[14:57:57] <abff> beepboopbeep exit
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1986[14:58:18] <beepboopbeep> thank you
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1987[14:58:23] <beepboopbeep> fuck i love this community
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1988[14:58:29] <beepboopbeep> i love linux so much so far
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1989[14:58:35] <beepboopbeep> alot of work but so worth it
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1990[14:58:43] <zorlan> you sound like donald
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1991[14:58:48] <beepboopbeep> seriously, thank you guys
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1992[14:58:56] <donut_> beepboopbeep: best way to learn it is to
install it for a non-user friend
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1994[14:59:15] <abff> I have been running the same install for
nearly a year now and I know how you feel. Once everything is
exactly the way you want it, it can be so comfortable
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1995[14:59:16] <donut_> who usually breaks it in the most
imaginative ways possible
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1996[14:59:29] <donut_> =)
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1997[14:59:39] <beepboopbeep> i bought thinkpad only to start
using\learning linux
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1998[14:59:57] <abff> offtopic but what kind of thinkpad?
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1999[14:59:58] <BCMM> lol, there's a million IRC clients
with scripting support
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2003[15:00:15] <beepboopbeep> so when the day comes and microsoft
stops supporting win7 i would be ready to switch
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2004[15:00:16] <ntz> beepboopbeep: omg, please, please, show some
portion of meekness ... you can't love linux because you
obviously know only a very little about that and from my
perspective, I'd not be that happy that guys here are helping
you to ruin your data/system/whatever
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2006[15:00:24] <beepboopbeep> abff: t470
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2007[15:00:32] <abff> beepboopbeep beefy
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2008[15:00:38] <donut_> Rumpled: colors? of course they still
work
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2009[15:00:44] <beepboopbeep> yea i love it
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2010[15:00:55] <zorlan> you can run KDE under windows10
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2011[15:01:05] <donut_> irssi has native support
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2012[15:01:08] <beepboopbeep> i will never install win10
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2013[15:01:10] <Rumpled> donut_, i mean the swirling fonts and
big words that change the colour each letter
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2014[15:01:19] <donut_> oh, scripts
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2015[15:01:34] <donut_> that's what bitch-x is for if
someone still wants them
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2017[15:02:00] <BCMM> beepboopbeep: when you run su, what it does
is start a new shell as root, not elevate your existing shell
somehow. you can run a shell from your shell, just like you'd
run any other command-line program, so when you exit that root
shell, you're old shell is still there
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2019[15:02:17] <Rumpled> i'm just happy with the minimalist
quassel
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2020[15:02:37] <BCMM> beepboopbeep: sorry for over-explaining but
i feel like understanding what's actually happening helps, or
you end up opening a bunch of nested shells without realising it
like i did at first :)
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2022[15:03:13] <BCMM> s/you're/your/
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2023[15:03:30] <beepboopbeep> i see it explains why me .wine
folder was in root folder inatead of home/user
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2024[15:03:52] <beepboopbeep> which makes sense cause i
run'd winecfg as root instead of regular
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2025[15:05:04] <BCMM> yeah, root is an actual user, and if
you're running stuff with root permissions you're running
it as root. a little different from windows, i think, where a
process for an admin user doesn't always have elevated
permissions
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2027[15:05:45] <Rumpled> look at root like you look at a
policeman: you can't go around handcuffing people until you
become a policeman
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2028[15:06:58] <beepboopbeep> heh
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2030[15:07:26] <Rumpled> windows is a bit more... awkward about
it
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2031[15:07:26] <abff> basically don't use root to modify
your system unless you're certain of what the effects might be
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2035[15:08:43] <abff> Using it to GET information is kind of
necessary when troubleshooting though, like lspci, fdisk -l and
other commands not available to normal users
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2036[15:09:07] <Rumpled> it tells you when though. nmap does
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2038[15:09:42] <abff> just today I messed up my python instance,
and I couldn't get anything that used python to run, all
because I was trying to install some python app as root user
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2039[15:10:22] <BCMM> abff: lspci is very much available to
non-root users. it's just your $PATH stopping you using it
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2041[15:10:43] <abff> learn several things every day
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2042[15:10:44] <BCMM> wait, lspci isn't even in sbin...
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2044[15:11:11] <abff> BCMM don't look at me, maybe I was
thinking of systemctl <_<
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2045[15:11:14] <BCMM> you can just run lspci from your regular
shell on a new debian install, don't even need to change your
path
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2047[15:11:56] <BCMM> i was giving my stock answer for when
people think non-root users can't use things like ifconfig...
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2086[15:28:16] <beepboopbeep> what irc client is recommended in
linux?
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2089[15:28:28] <beepboopbeep> on windows i'm using hexchat
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2090[15:28:38] <Rumpled> i use quassel. i like quassel
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2093[15:29:10] <Rumpled> but there are so many you'll just
have to experiment
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2094[15:29:46] <beepboopbeep> is xchat rexommened? i remember it
was unstable on windows
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2096[15:30:04] <dvs> no
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2097[15:30:07] <Rumpled> if you like having lots of small windows
in your face, sure
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2098[15:30:21] <dvs> xchat is not longer being developed
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2099[15:30:29] <Rumpled> ^ didn't know that
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2101[15:31:26] <Rumpled> isn't pidgin being thrown in to
every default installer anymore? you could try that
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2102[15:31:28] <beepboopbeep> i heard the name irrsi(something
like that) alot
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2104[15:31:38] <Rumpled> that's a terminal one i think
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2105[15:31:51] <beepboopbeep> no its not in xfce
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2106[15:32:15] <beepboopbeep> oh yea i don't want
commandline irc client
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2110[15:33:29] <Rumpled> just google a list and look for some
screenshots for them
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2117[15:34:28] <lefreut> back from the dead with my question. I
have to create a device in /dev using mknod. seems the device
won't survive a reboot. do i have a more "best
practice" solution to create than to add the commands in
rc.local?
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2122[15:34:52] <dvs> is udev still a thing?
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2131[15:36:07] <lefreut> ....i've been fighting with it for
two hours with no luck before finding that the device was created in
rc.local ;(
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2133[15:36:27] <lefreut> maybe the fact it's a
"module" is the problem?
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2136[15:37:43] <lefreut> and #udev tell to check with the distro
channel ^^
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2152[15:44:37] <Vizva> Rumpled hexchat
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2153[15:44:48] <Vizva> check it out
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2155[15:45:10] <Rumpled> too "big" for me
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2160[15:46:40] <beepboopbeep> do i need gksudo?
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2162[15:46:53] <Rumpled> not really, no
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2170[15:48:01] <Rumpled> the only time i've ever used that
is to edit the grub cfg and that was before i found nano
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2173[15:48:16] <beepboopbeep> i'm watching nautilus videos
and they use gksudo instead of sudo
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2190[15:55:53] <ged0> Hi guys,
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2191[15:55:53] <ged0> Need help with systemd. How I set systemd
to wait while service gracefully stops?
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2192[15:56:06] <ged0> With all its childs?
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2202[16:01:10] <hipt> hello
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2204[16:01:15] <darxmurf> salut
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2205[16:01:23] <hipt> can any 1 help me plz
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2207[16:02:04] <darxmurf> just ask
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2209[16:02:52] <hipt> haw can install terminator on cb ?
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2210[16:03:02] <hipt> #! linux
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2214[16:03:59] <user23123e> hi, whats is the better solution for
NFS HA active/passive
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2215[16:04:01] <jelly> hipt: English motherfucker, do you speak
it??
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2216[16:04:04] <user23123e> ?
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2217[16:04:28] <jelly> what's cb? what's haw?
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2221[16:05:00] <hipt> cb Crunch Bang
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2222[16:05:15] <jelly> ah!
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2223[16:05:19] <jelly> !crunchbang
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2224[16:05:19] <dpkg> CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution
originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of
version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not
supported in #debian.
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2226[16:05:30] <jelly> /join #crunchbang
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2227[16:05:52] <hipt> sorry my English is bad
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2230[16:06:37] <babilen> hipt: It's okay, but it typically
helps to spell things out, rather than using "cb",
"plz" and similar slang/abbreviations/initialisms
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2231[16:06:37] <hipt> thanks
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2232[16:06:53] <jelly> hipt: no problem, however we do not
support derivative distros, so in this case you can ask in
#crunchbang channel or ##linux if you don't get an answer in
there
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2233[16:06:57] <hipt> ok
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2270[16:21:24] <jan6> I may or may not have accidentally deleted
a partition without having any idea what's on it...
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2273[16:22:18] <lefreut> by wich user are systemd-udevd rules
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2275[16:22:44] <blip-> FinalX, hi, you were helping me earlier.
found out the disk went into RO mode cos it was full. remounting
didn't help
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2278[16:23:29] <blip-> FinalX, i unmounted /data, /opt/ and
/home/user, all of which were tied to /dev/vdb. but OS won't
let me remount them. fdisk -l says Disk /dev/vdb doesn't
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2279[16:23:33] <blip-> should i be concerned
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2302[16:30:16] <lefreut> are the mount made by systemd-udevd made
before the "modprobe" made systemd-udevd? i'm trying
to run a script on module load but it end in No such file or
directory
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2304[16:30:47] <lefreut> don't know if it's an acl
problem or a workflow problem
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2305[16:31:24] <lefreut> blip: do you have partition on the disk?
ie if you do ls /dev/vdb* do you have several results?
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2306[16:31:47] <beepboopbeep> how do i get package list\link from
replaced-url
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2307[16:32:05] <jelly> beepboopbeep: which debian release are you
using?
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2308[16:32:28] <beepboopbeep> 9.1
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2309[16:32:35] <jelly> if you're using something older than
sid, you really don't want to get packages from sid
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2311[16:32:40] <jelly> ,v hexchat
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2312[16:32:42] <judd> Package: hexchat on amd64 --
wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u1;
jessie-proposed-updates: 2.10.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports:
2.12.4-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.12.4-3; buster: 2.12.4-5+b2; sid:
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2314[16:33:03] <jelly> beepboopbeep: what's wrong with the
version from stretch, then?
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2315[16:33:04] <beepboopbeep> sid?
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2321[16:34:00] <jelly> beepboopbeep: sid is the development
branch of debian, your link points to a information about a package
version from sid
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2322[16:34:02] <beepboopbeep> i installed xfce there is not alot
of things installed with it so i need to install it manually jelly
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2324[16:34:45] <jelly> beepboopbeep: hexchat is available in
standard repos for 9.1. Just do "apt-get install hexchat"
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2326[16:34:47] <jelly> as root
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2327[16:35:07] <jelly> if that does not work, something is
misconfigured.
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2329[16:35:16] <beepboopbeep> E: Invalid operation hexchat
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2330[16:35:30] <jelly> you did not type the correct command.
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2331[16:35:52] <beepboopbeep> sudo apt-get hexchat E: Invalid
operation hexchat
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2334[16:37:04] <jelly> beepboopbeep: "sudo apt-get install
hexchat"
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2335[16:37:14] <beepboopbeep> ah install lol
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2340[16:38:19] <beepboopbeep> btw whats the difference between
apt and apt-get
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2346[16:41:01] <somiaj> beepboopbeep: apt-get was part of a
collection of software called apt, including things like apt-file,
apt-config, etc. apt is a modern replacement of all those binaries
into a single binary apt.
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2347[16:41:03] <eoli4n> beepboopbeep:
replaced-url
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2362[16:44:10] <jelly> oooh a REAL client
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2363[16:44:13] <beepnboop-> test
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2364[16:44:20] <beepnboop-> thank you jelly
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2365[16:44:20] <jelly> test failed, beepnboop-
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2366[16:44:30] * jelly hides
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2368[16:44:45] <beepboopbeep> i wont miss using webclient
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2379[16:50:22] <blip-> hi all, having this issue with apt-get
packages, any thoughts?
replaced-url
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2387[16:51:48] <somiaj> blip-: have you rand pat-get update
recentally?
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2389[16:52:06] <dvs> who's pat? ;-)
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2390[16:52:16] <somiaj> blip-: the output of apt-cache policy
could help
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2392[16:52:52] <dgp> dvs: he delivers post with his black and
white cat
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2393[16:53:11] <blip-> somiaj, the machine was managed by an
ex-employee, i don't know what he did :/
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2394[16:53:19] <blip-> nor am i very familiar with debian
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2397[16:53:57] <somiaj> blip-: It looks like this is debian
wheezy-lts and things are just out dated (missing security updates).
You will need to track down why this conflict exists.
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2398[16:54:01] <somiaj> !bat
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2399[16:54:01] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
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2402[16:55:09] <tw> What does "bat" stand for?
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2413[16:58:43] <blip-> somiaj, thanks. it's Wheezy 7.9. 1)
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2414[16:58:47] <blip-> brb
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2421[17:00:44] <blip-> shall i uninstall the packages i already
have - and let it install fresh dependencies?
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2451[17:13:46] <tw> probably switch to archive.debian.org as your
mirror. I bet the mirror you're using is not providing wheezy
updates anymore.
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2458[17:17:32] <lefreut> are the module from /etc/modules before
or after mounts from /etc/fstab?
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2459[17:17:39] <lefreut> *loaded
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2461[17:18:42] <tw> It depends.
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2463[17:19:18] <lefreut> tw: god i love you. do you happens to
know where i should look to know that? google kinda fail me
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2466[17:20:01] <tw> iirc, modules gets probed after / comes up
but before net. Net filesystems will come up after that
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2468[17:20:58] <lefreut> and in the case of lvm? don't look
like there net one but maybe the depends on modules themself?
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2470[17:21:11] <tw> That should get baked into your initrd.
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2471[17:21:30] <lefreut> yay that's my problem then :(
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2473[17:21:44] <lefreut> can't run a script on module load
because no mount
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2476[17:22:03] <lefreut> i'll have to end with rc.local, or
a homemade service
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2478[17:22:33] <tw> You can add some custom scripts to your
initrd if you need something run at boot time, but it won't
have access to your normal root.
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2484[17:24:56] <lefreut> that kinda feel like a situation where i
will break it and it's 300KM from where i am ;(
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2485[17:25:28] <beepnboop-> test
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2486[17:25:41] <lefreut> beepnboop: received :)
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2488[17:26:02] <beepnboop-> i'm trying to remove the seconds
from the time stamp
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2489[17:26:08] <beepnboop-> its little too extensive
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2491[17:26:40] <beepnboop-> found
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2492[17:27:03] <tw> lefreut: simulate it in a local VM before
deploying it.
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2495[17:27:46] <tw> Or make friends with someone at the site
where the machine is and keep an IP-KVM there just in case.
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2496[17:28:01] <lefreut> tw: sadly that an hardware HSM with
custom hw protection i can't quitte simulate
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2497[17:28:19] <tw> Ah. That'd be problematic.
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2498[17:28:28] <lefreut> tw: and the only guys on the site are
sales :D i've managed to make them change an IP once but
that's it ^^
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2499[17:28:46] <tw> IP-KVM or IPMI sounds like the way to go
then.
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2501[17:29:16] <tw> And invest in test infrastructure if you can
swing it.
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2502[17:29:19] <lefreut> tw: ip-kvm is totaly the way to go
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2505[17:30:23] <lefreut> tw: that is a test infrastructure, but
for a start-up and it will go in production, etc, and it have to be
quick. :/ thanks again for your time
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2507[17:31:13] <lefreut> tw: after messing with udev for 4H
it's good to see a bit more what is problematic
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2508[17:31:35] <tw> Yep, sorry I can't help more, but your
setup is pretty specific. I've done the yubikey-luks unlock
thing and it's not particularly common or well documented. I
imagine a full HSM would be more complex not less.
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2509[17:33:40] <tw> Oh, another thing that might catch you; make
sure to test all your scripts with dash or busybox ash; the
initrd/ramfs environment is not bash.
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2511[17:34:29] <lefreut> tw: they have been tested using /bin/sh
but i'll do that! thanks for the advice
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2515[17:35:19] <tw> /bin/sh on debian is usually linked to bash.
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2519[17:36:15] <tw> They're common assumptions.
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2524[17:36:44] <colo-work> tw, hasn't that been changed to
dash with wheezy?
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2527[17:37:10] <tw> Not that I'm aware of. My stretch
install still does it.
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2530[17:37:32] <colo-work> I have stretch (upgraded all the way
since squeeze) on this desktop, and it says: dash: /bin/sh
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2531[17:37:39] <colo-work> (with a diversion from that package)
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2543[17:42:28] <rudi_s> tw: Default is dash nowadays, old systems
are AFAIK not automatically upgraded (but I think there was a
debconf dialog during upgrade).
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2545[17:42:58] <tw> Okay, if I install bash that automatically
diverts sh -> basdh?
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2546[17:43:13] <rudi_s> No. Both dash and bash are essential and
always installed.
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2547[17:43:26] <rudi_s> But you can change which one is used as
/bin/h.
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2548[17:43:29] <rudi_s> */bin/sh
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2553[17:44:56] <tw> lefreut: okay, ignore me, my install apears
to be non-standard.
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2581[17:56:18] <hellyeah> !msn dpkg buster-backports
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2582[17:56:26] <lefreut> tw: in either case i'll have to
check
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2583[17:56:26] <hellyeah> !msg dpkg buster-backports
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2584[17:57:02] <hellyeah> !dpkg buster-backports
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2585[17:57:06] <hellyeah> !dpkg buster-backport
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2586[17:57:12] <hellyeah> hm
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2590[17:57:34] <BCMM> !buster-backports
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2592[17:57:40] <BCMM> nevermind.
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2593[17:57:46] <hellyeah> sorry
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2595[17:57:57] <hellyeah> !strectch-backports
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2596[17:58:04] <hellyeah> !dpkg strectch-backports
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2598[17:58:13] <at0m> stretch
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2600[17:58:19] <hellyeah> this bot is smart
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2601[17:58:29] <hellyeah> !dpkg stretch-backports
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2602[17:58:30] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Buster (Debian
10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in
the stretch-backports repository. See
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2603[17:58:35] <hellyeah> oket
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2604[17:58:43] <at0m> it's pretty dumb. like any computer,
it doesn't take typo's for commands.
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2605[17:58:51] <uxfi> hellyeah; hellyeah !
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2607[17:59:03] <hellyeah> uxfi: sup
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2608[17:59:23] <at0m> hellyeah: for more, /msg dpkg help and you
can chat all you want
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2609[17:59:25] <BCMM> i kinda assumed people started messages
with ! infrequently enough that it would say something if it
doesn't have any information for a given keyword
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2611[18:00:11] <BCMM> at0m: apt install sl :)
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2612[18:00:35] <hellyeah> at0m: thanks
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2613[18:00:38] <BCMM> (it helps your shell understand typos)
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2627[18:05:06] <hellyeah> which package contain pip3?
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2630[18:06:00] <lefreut> don't know if its the 3 but
python-pip?
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2636[18:07:23] <hellyeah> interesting
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2640[18:08:14] <lefreut> no seems it only provide pip and pip2
sorry:
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2650[18:10:36] <user__93459> just tested, python3-pip contains
pip3
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2652[18:10:52] <hellyeah> i am installing python-pip now
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2655[18:11:29] <somiaj> hellyeah: you should be careful with pip,
and may want to look into python virtual enviroments.
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2658[18:12:22] <hellyeah> somiaj: i have to install a software
called safe eyes
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2659[18:12:32] <hellyeah> the instruction asked for pip3
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2663[18:13:19] <somiaj> hellyeah: you should really be doing this
in a python virtual enviorment, and not on the system itself.
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2664[18:13:50] <somiaj> look at the package pyhton3-virtualenv
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2667[18:14:46] <hellyeah> hmm
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2668[18:15:04] <hellyeah> you mean not install something with pip
to your system*
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2669[18:15:07] <somiaj> hellyeah: the idea here is that you
don't want to use pip3 (or any other tool except apt/dpkg) to
install software in /usr (system locations). With a python virtual
enviroment you can install any collection of python packges in their
own enviroment seperate from the system.
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2672[18:16:20] <hellyeah> understand
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2674[18:16:35] <hellyeah> how to construct python virtual
environment?
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2675[18:16:49] <somiaj> the package I pointed out should build it
for you
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2676[18:17:17] <somiaj> python3-virtualenv -- I'm not that
familar with the details as all the python packages I use are
already in debian so I don't need a seperate enviroment
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2680[18:18:07] <hellyeah> somiaj: let me install that
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2684[18:20:08] <hellyeah> so somiaj now everything i install with
php3 will be installed under vitrual env is it?
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2717[18:31:39] <kolnpole> i deleted my boot partition
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2718[18:31:46] <kolnpole> can i undo it?
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2723[18:32:24] <n4n0`> negative kolnpole.
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2726[18:32:31] <kolnpole> :((
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2727[18:32:54] <kolnpole> never drunk and roor
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2728[18:32:58] <kolnpole> root
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2729[18:33:10] <n4n0`> agreed
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2731[18:33:27] <Sir_Designer> you should grab a network intall
and reinstall
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2735[18:34:05] <kolnpole> my pc is right now on so ...im
downloading and making a usb bootable
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2740[18:34:44] <user__93459> backup your data
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2741[18:34:59] <n4n0`> maybe next time you could make a drunk
test script for root access
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2743[18:35:47] <kolnpole> lmao ..ya
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2745[18:36:17] <user__93459> now selling... usb breathalyzer
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2746[18:36:34] <user__93459> xD
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2747[18:36:38] <n4n0`> if you do bash such a script, be sure to
give me the github so I can use it too :)
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2748[18:36:59] <kolnpole> hahahaha xd sure
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2782[18:50:15] <BCMM> n4n0`: just make a sufficiently difficult
root password
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2797[18:59:37] <lefreut> not working if you use keepass like
solutions :o
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2799[19:02:05] <n4n0`> BCMM, that might work.
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2816[19:07:43] <demo_> hello, anyone here familiar with ddrescue
?
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2819[19:08:27] <apollo13> demo_: please do not ask meta question
but a concrete one
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2823[19:10:04] <demo_> i have - last run time: 19.99 h,
successful read: 19.99 h ago
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2825[19:10:18] <demo_> does it mean its not reading anymore ?
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2828[19:10:42] <demo_> ipos/opos have increased but i dont know
what they mean
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2831[19:11:40] <apollo13> man ddrescue will give you hints on
waht ipos and opos are
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2833[19:12:03] <apollo13> most likely something towards input and
output position
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2849[19:16:17] <demo_> i want to know if its still reacovering
stuff or hdd is dead
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2852[19:16:55] <jhutchins_wk> demo_: I would guess that it last
completed 20 hours ago.
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2856[19:17:37] <demo_> its been like this since ive started it
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2859[19:18:01] <demo_> last week it was different, last read was
smaller than runtime
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2860[19:18:09] <jhutchins_wk> demo_: You should read the dd docs.
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2861[19:18:25] <jhutchins_wk> demo_: If you're running
ddrescue on a weekly basis you have other problems.
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2864[19:19:54] <demo_> its a bad hdd that im trying to rescue one
single docx file, wich has the header missing, and since its a zip,
whole file is lost
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2881[19:26:31] <Somelauw> How can I use the Emacs package located
here?
replaced-url
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2883[19:27:02] <section1> hi guys i have debian 9 with samba 4.5
and have a shared with force create mode = 0770 ...but don't
works as expected.. when cp from console works fine...but when copy
files from dolphin the copied files get with the original
permissions ...anny ida ? maybe a bug ?
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2896[19:33:01] <apollo13> section1: maybe dolphin issues a chmod`
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2898[19:33:47] <section1> apollo13, yeah maybe
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2899[19:34:03] <section1> but for example in other server with
samba 3 don't happen this
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2900[19:34:12] <section1> an old debian
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2901[19:34:32] <apollo13> then make sure to increase debug
logging
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2902[19:35:03] <section1> i will try that maybe force the mode
and the apply dolphin mode..not sure
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2962[20:03:25] <beepnboop-> sudo apt-get install steam E: Unable
to locate package steam
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2967[20:04:51] <nostr0mo> beepnboop- have you got non-free repos
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2969[20:05:09] <beepnboop-> not sure
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2970[20:05:24] <beepnboop-> not likely
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2971[20:06:17] <nostr0mo> You might need to enable it to install
it -
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2978[20:08:03] <beepnboop-> what is the non free repository for
9.1?
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2983[20:09:01] <geard> Hello all, i'm following some guides
on setting up a pxe server. I install syslinux-common but don't
see a pxelinux.0 in the /usr/lib/syslinux/ did this file get changed
and i'm following an old guide or am i missing something?
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2986[20:09:35] <n4dir> !non-free sources
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2987[20:09:36] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the
two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib
non-free" rather than just "main", then
«apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be
installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms;
check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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2989[20:09:42] <n4dir> beepnboop-: ^^
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2995[20:11:32] <beepnboop-> deb
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2996[20:11:37] <beepnboop-> like that?
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2998[20:12:11] <n4dir> that line contains stretch-updates
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3001[20:12:29] <n4dir> you will want to edit that one too, but
also the other entries
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3002[20:12:49] <beepnboop-> keep just the stertch?
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3006[20:14:05] <jhutchins_wk> geard: It may be named syslinux.
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3007[20:14:12] <Rumpled> deb
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3008[20:14:24] <n4dir>
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3009[20:14:31] <jhutchins_wk> Rumpled: Need a relase.
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3010[20:14:49] <n4dir> so add contrib and non-free (usually you
can remove or comment the deb-src lines though)
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3011[20:15:29] <Rumpled> yeah don't forget that like i did
lol
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3012[20:15:42] <n4dir> ups, there already is an example which
contains contrib and non-free, just copy and paste that (after
removing all old entries)
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3019[20:18:04] <beepnboop-> it installs it but doesn't load
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3020[20:18:16] <jhutchins_wk> !steam
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3021[20:18:16] <dpkg> Steam is a proprietary content delivery and
management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged
in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable
<multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with
upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net.
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3025[20:19:02] <algun|home> Anyone know of a DHT search engine
one could install?
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3027[20:19:27] <beepnboop-> for dpkg --add-architecture i386 do i
need sudo\su?
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3029[20:19:35] <annadane> beepnboop-, yes
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3036[20:21:09] <beepnboop-> i don't think it does anything
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3037[20:21:10] <jhutchins_wk> !search
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3038[20:21:10] <dpkg> Please search for things rather than just
asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with
<aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that
own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S
/bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and
«/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for
factoids. See
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3040[20:21:47] <algun|home> jhutchins_wk: i did
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3041[20:22:02] <beepnboop-> user@debian:~$ sudo dpkg
--add-architecture i386
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3042[20:22:03] <beepnboop-> user@debian:~$
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3048[20:23:59] <beepnboop-> same in su(without sudo)
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3051[20:25:02] <annadane> beepnboop-, IIRC i don't think you
get a confirmation message when you do that
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3052[20:25:04] <jelly> beepnboop-: that looks like it worked.
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3054[20:25:48] <beepnboop-> reinstall steam now?
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3056[20:25:54] <beepnboop-> cause it still doesn't open
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3057[20:25:56] <jelly> beepnboop-: so do an "apt-get
update" after that
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3059[20:26:13] <jelly> ,v steam --arch i386
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3060[20:26:15] <judd> Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free:
1.0.0.49-1; buster/non-free: 1.0.0.54-2; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.54-2;
stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.54-2
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3061[20:26:16] <algun|home> jhutchins_wk: aptitude this time as
well
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3062[20:26:18] <jelly> ,v steam --arch amd64
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3063[20:26:19] <judd> No package named 'steam' was
found in amd64.
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3066[20:27:23] <jelly> if you have the standard set of repos for
stretch configured it ought to be installable after that
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3069[20:27:41] <jelly> (well, standard w/ contrib and non-free)
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3110[20:41:43] <OS-29528> !gamma
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3111[20:41:43] <dpkg> i heard gamma is the third letter of the
greek alphabet or a high energy/low wavelength (since they're
the same thing, ask me about Planck's law) photon
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3112[20:42:25] <algun|home> !dht
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3121[20:44:27] <OS-29528> !Planck's law
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3153[20:56:09] <nix64bit> so i sshed into my install that froze
without any logs and demsg showed this message
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3154[20:56:10] <nix64bit> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: msvld: unable to
load firmware data
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3156[20:56:49] <nix64bit> dmesg
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3160[20:57:12] <somiaj> I don't know if that would be the
cause of the freezes, but you can install the firmware from non-free
I belive
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3163[20:57:36] <nix64bit> is there any way to customize nouveau?
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3164[20:57:49] <somiaj> in what way?
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3166[20:58:07] <nix64bit> Is it a good idea to use non free
firmawre?
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3168[20:58:39] <nix64bit> well maybe resinstakl it with diffent
options
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3170[20:58:42] <somiaj> I say yes, but at some level this is a
matter of choice and how much effort you want to go through to only
use free (as in DFSG) software
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3172[20:59:16] <somiaj> you can't install it with different
options. If there is some option you need to toggle this can usually
be done via modprobe or in your xorg.conf file. What options are you
needing to change?
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3173[20:59:16] <nix64bit> its a pretty old graphics card
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3174[20:59:20] <babilen> And it's very hard to get around
hardware needing firmare or microcode
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3175[20:59:54] <babilen> I mean your processor will always use
it, just outdated versions if you don't install the Debian
package (/msg dpkg microcode) or flash motherboard firmare
frequently
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3176[20:59:55] <nix64bit> i am keen to stop the gfreezing
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3177[21:00:24] <somiaj> nix64bit: I don't think nouveau
missing firmware is the cause of your freezes.
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3178[21:00:51] <nix64bit> what could it be then?
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3180[21:01:32] <somiaj> but if you would like, look a few lines
before that message and let us know exactly what firmware file it is
not able to find and we can check if it is installable in debian
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3181[21:01:52] <nix64bit> ah thanks
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3182[21:01:57] <somiaj> It maybe worth trying to use the
firmware, but usually with nouveau, missing firmware just disables
features, but won't cause a freeze.
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3185[21:02:25] <nix64bit> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware
load for nouveau/nv106_fuc084d failed with error -2
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3191[21:02:55] <annadane> may be able to find the source of the
freezing by journalct
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3192[21:02:59] <annadane> journalctl*
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3193[21:03:18] <nix64bit> it happens intermittently
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3195[21:03:58] <nix64bit> mouse moves about but keyboard is dead
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3198[21:04:33] <jhutchins_wk> nix64bit: usb keyboard?
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3199[21:04:38] <nix64bit> yup
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3200[21:04:40] <gftg> Is anybody here aware of reasons why debian
is not available as a charity on humblebundle.com?
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3201[21:04:58] <jhutchins_wk> nix64bit: That's probably not
anything to do with the graphics.
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3203[21:05:00] <gftg> Maybe this has been discussed in the past
and people don't want it.
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3204[21:05:16] <gftg> Or maybe, debian is only not aware of it.
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3205[21:05:19] <nix64bit> jhutchins_wk: I have no idea what it is
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3206[21:05:23] <somiaj> nix64bit: it appears debian dosen't
package the firmware for nouveau. I'm unusre on the details
here as I use the non-free driver. For your case I doubt this issue
is what is causing your crashes.
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3207[21:05:29] <beepnboop-> jelly, i did apt+apt-get update
afterwards
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3208[21:05:37] <beepnboop-> steam still doesn't load
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3209[21:05:41] <jhutchins_wk> nix64bit: In fact, it could be the
USB port.
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3211[21:06:14] <nix64bit> i did try and plug usb into to diffent
ports
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3212[21:06:24] <jhutchins_wk> beepnboop-: update just updates the
lists. upgrade or -f install will install packages.
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3213[21:06:46] <beepnboop-> i did upgrade too
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3218[21:07:39] <nix64bit> i am using a usb hub
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3223[21:09:25] <nix64bit> somiaj: thanks for looking
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3226[21:09:56] <nix64bit> i should get a nw graphics card, what
is recommended?
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3227[21:10:39] <somiaj> depends on what you want to do. I
personally use intel on my laptops that I only need 2D graphcs, and
nvidia+non-free drivers for systems I use 3D
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3229[21:11:29] <somiaj> but this is a personal choice, many like
ati/radeon. They do have better open drivers than nvidia, but the
debian non-free driver in linux is somewhat better than ati/radeons
(though my expreience maybe outdated)
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3231[21:12:47] <nix64bit> silly qustion how do i get the graphics
card info?
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3240[21:16:07] <jhutchins_wk> nix64bit: lspci -nn
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3241[21:16:28] <tw> nix64bit: Depends what you're llooking
for. lspci will give you information about the hardware. glxinfo
will give you some information about the running driver and
library's graphics support.
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3243[21:17:01] <nix64bit> wow thanks
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3245[21:17:28] <nix64bit> i was just looking it up and you cut to
the chase
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3246[21:17:33] <nix64bit> ;)
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3248[21:17:50] <beepnboop-> try reinstalling?
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3253[21:20:17] <Kobaz> what's the best way to get a newer
kernel (newer than 4.9) on debian jessie (other than the obvious
custom-kernel)... ie... what's a more debian-ish way of doing
it
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3257[21:21:37] <greycat> Why not upgrade to stretch?
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3258[21:21:44] <Kobaz> i will eventually
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3259[21:21:56] <Kobaz> i need to rebuild a lot of my apps for
stretch
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3260[21:21:57] <greycat> Trying to run a kernel that's 2
releases beyond your userspace is just asking for trouble.
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3261[21:22:23] <Kobaz> greycat: depends on the changes
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3264[21:22:53] <nix64bit> lshw -class display
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3265[21:22:54] <Kobaz> there's no real breaking userspace
changes between 4.9 and 4.12 for instance
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3266[21:23:09] <greycat> You can *try* downloading the buster
kernel package and see if it'll install, or if it depends on a
too-new version of udev, dbus or whatever.
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3270[21:23:28] <Kobaz> greycat: i have 4.12.8 running on
deebian-squeeze
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3271[21:23:37] <Kobaz> one of my dev/testing boxes for older
systems
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3275[21:24:53] <nix64bit>
replaced-url
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3277[21:25:12] <Kobaz> greycat: earlier kernels, yes definitely
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3278[21:25:16] <Kobaz> udev, etc
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3282[21:26:44] <Kobaz> ah, 4.12 from stretch installed just fine
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3283[21:26:52] <Kobaz> stretch-backports
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3291[21:29:31] <jhutchins_wk> Kobaz: To answer your actual
question, doing your own backport would probably be the "debian
way". See /msg dpkg ssb for the general technique.
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3295[21:30:38] <Kobaz> k
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3302[21:32:49] <nix64bit> back to the freeze I tried journalctl |
grep usb
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3306[21:33:51] <nix64bit> i tried to grep error but nothing of
interest
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3311[21:38:15] <jhutchins_wk> nix64bit: I would expect that sort
of thing to show up in dmesg rather than the journal.
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3312[21:38:42] <nix64bit> I had a look there not sure what to
look for
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3319[21:40:24] <hexhaxtron> I'm using XFCE4 and the
Programmer Dvorak keyboard layout. I also set the Compose Key to
Right Alt but I can't make accents... What can I do?
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3321[21:40:52] <nix64bit> i see gitlab is still running a
service, I unistalled it ages ago
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3327[21:43:45] <Somelauw> hexhaxtron: compose, e, '
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3329[21:43:56] <Somelauw> or compose ' e
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3334[21:45:10] <hexhaxtron> Somelauw: I know that... I can do
only this one: á ó é
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3337[21:45:38] <hexhaxtron> But I can't make for example an
a with a tilde ~
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3338[21:45:42] <Somelauw> hexhaxtron: that's three already
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3339[21:45:48] <hexhaxtron> Or circumflex
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3341[21:45:52] <hexhaxtron> a with ^
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3342[21:46:01] <grauzikas> Hello, i need an dhcp server what can
be backended with an database server (for example mysql), i need it
to store/update mac addresses and network information to specify for
dhcp clients what ip they should get. may be some one can sugest an
dhcp server name :) ?
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3343[21:46:02] <Somelauw> ã is compose ~ a
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3344[21:46:13] <hexhaxtron> Somelauw: doesn't work...
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3345[21:46:22] <Somelauw> â is compose ^ a
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3349[21:46:38] <hexhaxtron> Doesn't work... :)
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3350[21:47:02] <Somelauw> hexhaxtron: does it work in a terminal?
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3352[21:47:12] <hexhaxtron> Doesn't work everywhere.
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3353[21:47:24] <greycat> Then you're not in X, or you
haven't defined a Multi_key, or you have overridden the default
Debian X11 input compositions.
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3354[21:47:57] <Somelauw> hexhaxtron: Do you have a .Xcompose
file?
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3355[21:48:13] <hexhaxtron> Somelauw: nope.
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3356[21:48:17] <Somelauw> If not it uses
/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose
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3358[21:48:31] <Somelauw> although that might depend on your
locale
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3360[21:48:45] <nix64bit> anyway thanks for the help
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3361[21:48:45] <jhutchins_wk> grauzikas: The standard dhcp server
will allow you to reserve IPs by MAC.
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3362[21:48:47] <greycat>
replaced-url
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3363[21:48:49] <nix64bit> night
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3364[21:49:46] <jhutchins_wk> ,v kea
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3365[21:49:47] <judd> No package named 'kea' was found
in amd64.
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3368[21:50:05] <Somelauw> if you create a .XCompose file, you
should start the file with include "%L", which is an
undocumented feature unfortunately
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3369[21:50:07] <jhutchins_wk> grauzikas: kea is a project to
develop a dhcp server with mysql back-end.
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3370[21:50:19] <greycat> it's documented on that wiki page
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3372[21:50:48] <greycat> and it's documented in one of the
man pages, obviously, or I wouldn't have been able to write
that wiki page
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3378[21:51:40] <Kobaz> jhutchins_wk: does it do postres?
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3380[21:51:47] <grauzikas> Thank you, kea exist only in newest
debian, but it`s not a problem :)
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3381[21:51:48] <Kobaz> *postgres
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3388[21:53:59] <Somelauw> greycat: many open source projects seem
to have outdated wiki pages, but this one looks okay
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3393[21:54:05] <Plushwolf> How can I make a bootable USB drive
*without* formatting it first and *without* using dd or similar?
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3395[21:54:24] <Plushwolf> Want to copy a ISO or USB image on it