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110 [01:23:36] <DevilTiger> dhcpcd is failing to start on boot.
running sudo dhcpcd wlan0 after boot starts fine. i'm raging
out on why this is happening
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112 [01:24:38] <rustbuckett> zleap, yes it is. it shows as Bus
001 Device 004: ID 056a:0374 Wacom Co., Ltd in lsusb
113 [01:27:19] <rustbuckett> and lsmod shows "wacom 94208
0" and "hid 122880 3 hid_generic,usbhid,wacom"
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119 [01:30:20] <DevilTiger> if service servicename start returns
nothing that should mean the service started, correct?
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146 [01:41:36] <karlpinc> DevilTiger: Yes. The general rule is
that success is slient.
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155 [01:49:39] <karlpinc> Johann: Thanks.
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249 [03:00:30] <rwp> Is there a way to tell if a USB socket is
3.0 or 2.0? The color is black which tells me 2.0 but it was
spec'd to be 3.0.
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256 [03:04:15] <dvs> rwp, if you can see five pins if you look
inside at the back of the port.
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260 [03:09:40] <mason> rwp: lspci should show you, or maybe
dmidecode.
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277 [03:24:47] <rwp> mason, lsusb shows the devices but
doesn't say if a port is 2.0 or 3.0. Thanks anyway though.
278 [03:25:33] <mason> rwp: What does it say it is? Is it xHCI?
279 [03:27:19] <rwp> I am just using a USB network dongle for a
test at the moment and it says "Bus 001 Device 007: ID
0bda:8153 Realtek Semiconductor Corp."
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281 [03:27:50] <rwp> Of course the syslog shows the kernel
tracing but again nothing that is obvious from that either.
282 [03:28:30] <rwp> I am betting it is just 2.0 and the 3.0 was
mis-marketing on the laptop which said it had USB 3.0 ports.
It's a Lenovo ideapad 330S.
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286 [03:31:45] <dvs> rwp, lsusb will say if you have USB 3.0
ports at all.
287 [03:35:38] <mason> rwp: lspci | grep -i usb
288 [03:35:46] <mason> "That ain't it."
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291 [03:36:52] <dvs> I said lsusb
292 [03:37:08] <mason> 22:09 < mason> rwp: lspci should
show you, or maybe dmidecode.
293 [03:39:19] <rwp> Ah... lspci. Here is the hub. Does look like
3.0. Just an incorrect color marketing.
replaced-url
294 [03:39:33] <mason> Yar, that's USB3
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297 [03:40:16] <mason> It's possible they mixed USB2 and 3
ports, but there ought to be at least some USB3 access or they
wouldn't have bothered with that, I imagine.
298 [03:40:57] <rwp> It has 2x USB of the normal flat boxes (Is
that the A type?) and 1x USB-C type.
299 [03:41:36] <mason> Yeah, I think that's A-type. I'm
not wildly familiar with USB things.
300 [03:42:03] <dvs> the "flat boxes" could be USB 2 or
3.
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303 [03:43:52] <rwp> I thought the color code (or at least the
marketing) was that 3.0 would be color blue.
304 [03:44:12] <rwp> These are color black. Which was why I was
checking. It's a new laptop. Helping a friend do setup.
305 [03:46:07] <mason> Hm, a random search suggests that the plug
colour matters, but that the port colour isn't part of the
spec.
306 [03:46:11] <mason>
replaced-url
307 [03:46:50] <rwp> Ah... lsusb -t shows what is attached:
replaced-url
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309 [03:47:14] <mason> ah, cool
310 [03:47:56] <dvs> geez
311 [03:49:06] <dvs> Since there are no ohci or uhci hubs, all
the ports are 3.0
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313 [03:50:29] <mason> I finally gave up my anti-USB prejudice
and got a USB3-only hard drive enclosure recently. It's mostly
working out well.
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315 [03:52:33] <dvs> why hate USB?
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319 [03:56:51] <mason> dvs: History of being slow and flaky,
which I think is largely no longer the case.
320 [03:57:25] <dvs> mason, flaky: maybe. But definitely not slow
anymore.
321 [03:58:17] <mason> The only issue I'm having with the
enclosure is that it wants to put my drives to sleep when
they've been idle, and I seem not to be able to turn that off.
So I'm touching /dev/sd[a-z] once every five minutes. Hacky but
it works.
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324 [04:01:18] <santost12> could someone please help me find out
why im getting a 404? LEMP on debian 9.
replaced-url
325 [04:01:53] <mason> !pastebin
326 [04:01:53] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
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328 [04:02:11] <dvs> ???
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330 [04:04:34] <rant> santost12: I would advise against using
that pastebin in the future, use paste.debian.net or termbin.com
preferably.. pastebin.com is a very ignorant site, uses cookies,
tracking, popups, ads, you name it.. people who are just looking in
may not waste their time with that crap.
331 [04:05:03] <santost12> rant: okay.
332 [04:05:06] <santost12>
replaced-url
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345 [04:08:58] <rant> santost12: is netcat installed? dpkg -l
netcat
346 [04:09:07] <rant> if so, you may consider this
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348 [04:09:13] <rant> santost12: (ls -l /var/replaced-url
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350 [04:10:02] <rant> its much easier for you, to paste output of
multiple commands you can even put some echo lines in there to
prefix headings, and also you didnt use a ls -l to show permissions
on the files or try curl by ip ruling out hostname issues
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356 [04:13:48] <santost12> rant: thank you. here:
replaced-url
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358 [04:14:29] <mason> ls -la might have been useful - see if the
directory is world-readable
359 [04:14:37] <mason> and executable
360 [04:15:07] <rant> santost12: so the permission are ok.. what
about the access.log and error.log mentioned in the nginx config?
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362 [04:15:21] <rant> mason: yeah thats a good point as well
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365 [04:16:10] <rant> I have no experience with nginx or php, I
was just trying to advise on some other ways to get information and
prod at the obvious stuff
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367 [04:17:31] <santost12>
replaced-url
368 [04:18:23] <santost12> index.html file doesn't 404 but
info.php does... :/ the owner/group of html folder is
replaced-url
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370 [04:19:14] <santost12> that last paste was:
root@node3:/var/log/nginx# (cat access.log; echo " "; cat
error.log)|nc termbin.com 9999
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374 [04:20:43] <rant> santost12: when you use that trick I showed
you helps to use some echo's like (echo -e 'ls -la
/foo\n---';ls -la /foo) or just say what the commands are with
the first echo and use an echo -e "\n------\n" seperator
or such
375 [04:20:53] <mason> At a guess, nginx needs configuration to
accept index.php as valid.
376 [04:21:07] <rant> but yeah, idk how nginix works, but apache
needs to be specifically told to allow that kinda stuff
377 [04:21:27] <rant> each directory directive in apache has
specific kinds of files you're allowed to access, whether or
not you can list the dir.. etc
378 [04:22:11] <rant> a php file would be an executable.. so ..
it has to be allowing executable files
379 [04:22:20] <santost12> i didn't want to use apache
because of security reasons and all of its modules.
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382 [04:24:34] <mason> ...and yet, PHP... =cough=
383 [04:25:05] <mason> This isn't 100% on-target but it has
useful pointers:
replaced-url
384 [04:25:13] <santost12> ...apache status module leaking info
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389 [04:29:47] <santost12> im going to try using port connection
instead of socket connection for php-fpm
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394 [04:40:56] <santost12> thank you for the help. im going to
try asking #nginx
395 [04:41:20] <mason> santost12: Good luck with it. I bet
it's one tiny tweak away from working.
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397 [04:42:05] <santost12> yes. its been so frustrating that
maybe im overlooking something so small
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401 [04:44:29] <rwp> santost12, I just came on and looked at your
paste. I hope not to offend you but why aren't you using the
standard nginx/apache configuration of each site in its own file?
402 [04:44:52] <rwp> I think you are going to make things a lot
harder on yourself doing it the way you are doing it.
403 [04:45:32] <rwp> Also we would need to see what is in
snippets/fastcgi-php.conf that you are including too.
404 [04:45:48] <santost12> because i prefer to have it all in one
nginx.conf file. if i need to add more sites or ssl in the future i
add it in my nginx.conf
405 [04:45:55] <rwp> But you are right, there is nothing there
that is Debian specific. So #nginx is probably the better place to
ask those questions.
406 [04:46:18] <rwp> Okay.
407 [04:48:22] <rwp> santost12, Here is a working config cut from
one of my site configs:
replaced-url
408 [04:49:43] <rwp> santost12, Actually, let me make a small
cleanup and say this is better:
replaced-url
409 [04:49:44] <santost12>
replaced-url
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412 [04:52:19] <rwp> If you aren't using it then you
don't need to worry about fastcgi_split_path_info as that is
only if one has a path after such as index.php/foo/bar that needs to
be extracted and passed as a parameter. If you aren't using it
then it is simpler and safer to not worry about it. Because
otherwise there are more checks that are needed to avoid an attack
against it.
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415 [04:57:50] <santost12> okay. i left that file as the debian
default.
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431 [05:08:37] <jcb2016> so i just found out a nift tool called
rmadison where it can query versions of a package without it being
installed. any other nifty tools i should know about?
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658 [08:24:07] <terbo> so my chromium crashes a lot with only
several tabs open, often some libpng/ICCP profile errors, and
others, on intel graphics
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661 [08:26:49] <aexl> does it also do that with a new profile?
662 [08:27:21] <terbo> i.e. before logging into google? I'm
not sure but tbh I think firefox has done it also
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664 [08:27:56] <terbo> It even does it on MX linux a derivative,
and the only issues i've found are fairly old and say solved in
later versions, though updating rn
665 [08:28:46] <terbo> I just installed this last night, has
happened several times but I'm not getting the same level of
logging as when it was pure debian
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712 [09:05:36] <terbo> ok well updated, i guess i have to again.
it all kinda began with VLC crashing frequently, but I remember it
didn't after I installed 9.8
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716 [09:06:02] <eugenmayer> hello. in interfaces, can i have
multipe statements for one and the same interface .. something like
replaced-url
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718 [09:06:38] <terbo> what are you trying to achieve?
719 [09:07:16] <jelly> it's pretty obvious he's just
trying to split the config in multiple files
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721 [09:08:07] <eugenmayer> jelly: terbo of course, it would not
make sense in general ways, but this is for automatical CM /
scripted configuration where i want to avoid sed acrobatics
722 [09:08:22] <jelly> eugenmayer: I haven't tried it but
suspect it won't be merged into a single stanza. TIAS.
723 [09:08:31] <eugenmayer> by simply splitting components up
into parts which i can update autoicly
724 [09:09:04] <eugenmayer> jelly: i would also expect it not to
work due to also the dupe of "static/dynamic" and if it
works, subject to go banana later i guess
725 [09:09:41] <jelly> eugenmayer: also try naming them
intefaces.d/eth0.01main.cfg and eth0.02dns.cfg, put _just_ the
dns-nameservers line in the second one, see if that works?
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727 [09:10:05] <terbo> update resolv.conf?
728 [09:10:56] <eugenmayer> well that is playing with fire jelly,
because of the indentation - or is the latter actually ignored
anyway and the interface definitoin is open until any other
statement not fitting the interface DSL ends the block?
729 [09:11:21] <jelly> whitespace is not syntax in interfaces(8)
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733 [09:11:45] <jelly> (you don't have to indent anything)
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736 [09:12:35] <__m4ch1n3__> terbo, which intel gpu? i915 ?
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738 [09:14:16] <__m4ch1n3__> ...
"firmware-misc-nonfree" package contains some i915
firmware bins
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744 [09:19:09] <__m4ch1n3__> you could also try enable modeset
driver for i915 'echo "options i915 modeset=1" >
/etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf'
745 [09:19:32] <__m4ch1n3__> or change acceleration method via
xorg.conf
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747 [09:21:02] <terbo> ok... i haven't gotten one yet but
its like... kinda random
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750 [09:21:34] <terbo> yea i915
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753 [09:22:42] <__m4ch1n3__> then would recommend install
"firmware-misc-nonfree" if non-free packages are o.k for
you
754 [09:22:48] <__m4ch1n3__> first
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764 [09:32:27] <__m4ch1n3__> terbo,
replaced-url
765 [09:34:01] <__m4ch1n3__>
replaced-url
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770 [09:41:22] <terbo> _m4ch1n3_: thanks checking out
771 [09:41:47] <diogenes_> you could try uxa instead of sna
772 [09:41:54] <diogenes_> or even mo
773 [09:42:02] <diogenes_> modesetting driver
774 [09:42:29] <terbo> hMM maybe the update helped, I have a
dozen tabs open and some video and images playing
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777 [09:43:10] <terbo> but I guess I'd like to go back to
the debian install, and I think I had that updated so I may have to
use these settings
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848 [10:28:23] <Ingvix> anyone got an idea where could the
wallpaper be defined with lightdm/i3 setup? I found the login
wallpaper defined in lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf but I got no idea what
switches it to a different image when i3 starts. i3wm does not
handle wallpapers itself
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873 [10:38:24] <chomwitt> why would in a new debian installation
(9.8) /var/log/auth.log would have older entries (its a cloude
server). Could this mean that an cloned imaged from another
installation was used?
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875 [10:38:53] <colo-work> probably
876 [10:39:18] <colo-work> people who prepare
images/templates/instances/younameit are sloppy, even at big
providers
877 [10:39:24] <chomwitt> should i complain or i a standard
procedure to ease their work?
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879 [10:39:40] <chomwitt> i->its
880 [10:40:04] <colo-work> probably the latter. if you can, you
should still reinstall yourself from known-good installation media.
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882 [10:40:23] <colo-work> (if you can't trust the host of
your VM though, nothing can save you)
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884 [10:41:00] <Fox> Ingvix: use feh in your .profile
885 [10:41:21] <chomwitt> my provider wont allow me to install an
image. (strangely what i have a less expensive shared virtual host i
had a panel for that!) . I must email them to email the people close
to the iron to do the installation.
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887 [10:41:30] <Fox> Ingvix: apt install feh && echo
'feh --bg-fill ~/Pictures/Sample_picture.jpg' >>
~/.profile
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890 [10:41:50] <chomwitt> s/what/when
891 [10:42:41] <Ingvix> Fox, I'm not really interested how
do I change it with external tools. I know how to do it but what I
don't know what has defined my current wallpaper
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894 [10:43:57] <Fox> Ingvix: i3wm does not provide any tool to
change wallpaper
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897 [10:44:59] <Ingvix> I know. I just want to know why do I
currently have wallpaper if nothing has set it so. So I concluded
that something has set it and I want to know what
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899 [10:45:29] <Ingvix> well that was not nicely phrased
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901 [10:45:34] <Fox> sure :)
902 [10:45:57] <Fox> Ingvix: don't you have the default
black background from i3wm ?
903 [10:46:21] <Ingvix> Fox, no, I have the default debian
wallpaper
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906 [10:47:36] <Fox> Ingvix: did you look at your ~/.xsession ?
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908 [10:50:09] <Ingvix> Fox, doesn't exist
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914 [10:53:01] <Ingvix> I did have cinnamon before I switched to
i3wm and some of its apps remain. Could they be doing something
funny even the DE is not cinnamon?
915 [10:53:29] <Kingsy> soo whenever I use apt-get I see this
error --> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such
file or directory, locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No
such file or directory. ALOT probably about 100 times as it installs
new packages. What has happened?
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924 [11:00:59] <Ingvix> actually now I realized that the
wallpaper is already changed in the lightdm with a fading animation
925 [11:01:10] <Ingvix> I wonder what causes that
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928 [11:02:04] <Ingvix> at first there's the default login
wallpaper and then it changes to the default desktop wallpaper
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963 [11:22:15] <darsie> how long till next debian release?
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965 [11:23:00] <n4dir> not more than a few months for sure.
966 [11:23:03] <darsie> thx
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968 [11:24:28] <n4dir> to put it different: once the actual
testing is frozen, it didn't take longer than something like 6
months in the past. So: once it is frozen, the release is kinda
near.
969 [11:24:48] <aexl> !wwbr
970 [11:24:48] <dpkg> Debian 10 "Buster" start the
<freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019.
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973 [11:25:38] <n4dir> wondering what wwbr might mean ...
974 [11:25:45] <Haohmaru> when will be ready?
975 [11:26:10] <bhuddah> go rspamd
976 [11:26:16] <bhuddah> sorry.
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978 [11:26:45] <themill> dpkg, literal wwbr
979 [11:26:45] <dpkg> "wwbr" is "<reply>see
when will buster release"
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983 [11:27:07] <n4dir> ah, thanks.
984 [11:27:08] <_2E0LNX> I thought "when will be ready"
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992 [11:31:27] <Haohmaru> the most important question
993 [11:31:35] <kreyren> Does anyone has command for mini.iso of
debian to remove everything debian and keep just core system?
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995 [11:31:42] <kreyren> mine's outdated
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997 [11:33:10] <n4dir> i guess the closest you could do is use
taskel and remove the task "standard".
998 [11:33:30] <n4dir> tasksel.
999 [11:33:35] <kreyren> elaborate closest?
1000 [11:34:12] <kreyren> expected to be used for LFS base.. or is
there better way now? (last time i did this was in 2009 iirc)
1001 [11:34:17] <n4dir> imho in Linux there is no clear
distinction between "core system" and umpf, "other
stuff" (third party apps in BSD terms)
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1003 [11:34:35] <n4dir> kreyren: probably debootstrap is a better
solution.
1004 [11:34:49] <kreyren> and remove apt from it?
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1006 [11:35:01] <n4dir> oh. no clue
1007 [11:35:23] <kreyren> like i can remove apt, but is it just
core system with apt and it's deps? (+toolchain)
1008 [11:35:50] <themill> If you can actually define
"core" then you'll know how to do this.
1009 [11:36:34] <kreyren> linux system that barely lives in chroot
environment with gcc, glibc and binutils
1010 [11:36:51] <themill> that's a long way from what
I'd call a core
1011 [11:37:25] <kreyren> expected base system on which i can put
another package manager
1012 [11:37:33] <kreyren> anything that suffice is usefull
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1016 [11:40:49] <furrymcgee> your initrd is pretty much a core
linux system
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1020 [11:42:49] <n4dir> kreyren: not much in distros anymore, but
the actual dragora3 alpha release is very bare (it comes with X and
dwm though, but no apps. Remove those, and you are really
small/core)
1021 [11:44:28] <kreyren> will check, thanks
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1023 [11:45:13] <n4dir>
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1025 [11:47:36] <aexl> debian netinstall is smaller
1026 [11:47:54] <kreyren> netinstall installs sources from net so
it's irelevant
1027 [11:47:58] <kreyren> or is it?
1028 [11:48:06] <n4dir> yup, a common misunderstanding.
1029 [11:48:28] <aexl> can't you disable this?
1030 [11:48:56] <n4dir> it gives you the debian-installer, which
will install whatever you choose, just like the CD-iso, the DVD,
what-you-have
1031 [11:49:00] <kreyren> in theory and it should have just apt
and it's deps to install sources from net afaik
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1033 [11:49:15] <kreyren> ah so it's not full system?
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1036 [11:49:33] <darsie> n4dir: Is it frozen already?
1037 [11:49:42] * kreyren rebooting
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1039 [11:49:53] <n4dir> !wwbr
1040 [11:50:10] <n4dir> damnit. Someone gave that factoid, but
yes, buster is frozen.
1041 [11:50:12] <Alphare> Hi all. I'm trying to install mysql
5.7 on debian buster/sid. Am I just out of luck and the package does
not exist?
1042 [11:50:25] <darsie> k
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1047 [11:52:18] <aexl> Alphare: maybe you're looking for
mysql-client-5.7?
1048 [11:52:30] <aexl> which is sid (unstable)
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1053 [11:54:37] <Alphare> aexl: seems like that and the -server-
version might work
1054 [11:54:48] <Alphare> thanks, not sure why I have not found
them
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1056 [11:55:33] <aexl> np, i came here first to look for php7 ^w^
1057 [11:55:55] <Alphare> aexl: hehe
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1086 [12:07:56] <aexl> netinst has gcc, glibc and binutils
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1125 [12:52:23] <Kingsy> soo whenever I use apt-get I see this
error --> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such
file or directory, locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No
such file or directory. ALOT probably about 100 times as it installs
new packages. What has happened?
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1129 [12:54:55] <fireba11> Kingsy: some local seems missing, and
the apt scripts are complaining. and yes IF that happens they do it
A LOT :-D
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1140 [13:04:07] <jelly> Kingsy: pastebin the outputs of
"locale" and "locale -a" commands. Which debian
release is this?
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1152 [13:13:52] <jelly> what's the least worst apt-mirror
proxy these days? I want to cache the ELTS repo, thought of
mirroring it but it's set up rather hostile (http only, the
whole of wheezy seems imported in the repo next to the actual ELTS
files)
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1154 [13:14:52] <rwp> jelly, I am using apt-cacher-ng these days
for .deb proxy caching.
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1162 [13:19:51] <qman__> jelly: I just use a squid proxy
configured to cache all debian repos
1163 [13:20:11] <qman__> then I don't have to worry about
what to save, it just grabs whatever I happen to pull down
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1207 [13:51:33] <catphish> can debian's network
"interfaces" files find an interface by mac address, or is
it necessary to use a separate config for persistently naming
devices first?
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1210 [13:53:28] <qman__> nope, the interfaces file is only by
interface name, and the names are associated with devices by udev
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1212 [13:53:48] <catphish> thanks, i've been spoiled by
netplan which integrates this
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1214 [13:54:29] <catphish> generating udev config should be no
trouble though
1215 [13:55:08] <qman__> yeah, it's pretty straightforward,
just in a separate file
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1217 [13:56:44] <qman__> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
IIRC
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1241 [14:06:46] <n_1-c_k> Is a udev rule still considered
"the" way to do it? I though systemd.link(5) was the
approved way these days?
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1304 [14:49:33] <AlexNagy> Hey, I've picked up some rogue
printers on my wifi network, the only ip address shown in the
add/remove printers dialogue is localhost, is there any way to query
it's actual network address?
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1308 [14:50:37] <greycat> How did you "pick them up"?
Use that.
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1314 [14:54:24] <Lyberta> hi, is there a way to present my own
customly created root fs to a specific process?
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1322 [14:57:30] <greycat> chroot, or a systemd service with
RootDirectory=, or systemd-nspawn (in the systemd-container
package), or docker, or ....
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1338 [15:07:00] <DevilTiger> how can i figure out why this damn
service is not starting on boot. this is making me rage that its
right there in cron @reboot systemctl start service yet on boot
it's magically nowhere
1339 [15:07:56] <greycat> why in the hell would you put
"@reboot systemctl start ..." in cron instead of just
doing systemctl enable on the service?
1340 [15:08:07] <DevilTiger> because enable didn't work ;)
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1342 [15:08:13] <greycat> So figure out why.
1343 [15:08:24] <DevilTiger> is that not what i'm trying to
do?
1344 [15:08:49] <mutante> DevilTiger: journalctl -xn -u <unit
name> ?
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1347 [15:09:45] <DevilTiger> thank you!
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1350 [15:10:35] <DevilTiger> systemd is magic black box to me so
when resources it controls don't do things i tell them to do
i'm a loss and start guessing
1351 [15:11:24] <mutante> well.. does it work to manually
start/stop it
1352 [15:11:33] <mutante> before doing anything automatically
1353 [15:12:28] <mutante> did you write the unit file yourself or
did it come with the package or ?
1354 [15:13:19] <DevilTiger> manually works, yes. after running
the command you told me it pointed me in the right direction
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1356 [15:13:40] <mutante> DevilTiger: great, indeed the logs
should say more
1357 [15:13:49] <DevilTiger> adding some arguments to the
ExecStart line was what i needed. networking "bug" i guess
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1359 [15:14:02] <DevilTiger>
replaced-url
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1361 [15:14:15] <mutante> or the time it is started (before
networking is too early) ?
1362 [15:14:19] <greycat> Is this a third-party thing that you got
from outside of Debian?
1363 [15:14:27] <DevilTiger> it is fixed.
1364 [15:14:31] <DevilTiger> there is nothing left to fix.
1365 [15:14:49] <mutante> did you actually reboot yet ?:)
1366 [15:14:53] <DevilTiger> yes :)
1367 [15:15:11] <mutante> ok then
1368 [15:15:16] <greycat> Is your fix going to be overwritten when
you update this thing?
1369 [15:15:39] <DevilTiger> just needed to know where to look for
why it failed to start. possibly. this is an embedded project that
controls and arduino over i2c so it will never be getting updated
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1371 [15:16:10] <DevilTiger> also there's a good possibly the
bug will be patched as its noted in the github issue as to why the
issue happens in the firstp lace
1372 [15:16:13] <greycat> So, "I can't tell you what it
is, or where I got it, or what change I made"
1373 [15:16:14] <Ticho> this is how spam-sending botnet zombies
always start :)
1374 [15:16:14] <greycat> Yay.
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1376 [15:16:32] <DevilTiger> i could tell you but you could also
just click the link and find all those things out yourself
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1378 [15:16:50] <DevilTiger> as the issue is not present anymore
is it really worth it to you?
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1380 [15:17:21] <greycat> I am *trying* to figure out whether
it's *REALLY FIXED* or "I edited a random file and
it'll be reverted when I update the package".
1381 [15:17:25] <DevilTiger> mutante: thank you
1382 [15:17:29] <greycat> Since you know nothing and will TELL US
nothing, it's the lattger.
1383 [15:17:30] <greycat> Have fun.
1384 [15:17:32] <greycat> *plonk*
1385 [15:17:34] <DevilTiger> thank you!
1386 [15:17:37] <DevilTiger> i will
1387 [15:18:07] <DevilTiger> and if random = to file listed in
comment i directly linked then yes, random file
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1389 [15:18:28] <mutante> DevilTiger: np.. never getting updats is
scary :)
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1391 [15:18:37] <greycat> Happy Tuesday, greycat. Welcome to IRC,
where nobody will tell you what the hell they're doing.
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1393 [15:18:51] <DevilTiger> the issue is fixed. there is nothing
else to know
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1395 [15:19:19] <mutante> as far as you know
1396 [15:19:21] <DevilTiger> if you want to know how it got fixed
you're more than welcome to read the github issue detailing the
issue and the fix. beyond that i'm not sure what you want
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1398 [15:20:16] <mutante> he wanted to prevent you having the same
issue again
1399 [15:20:32] <DevilTiger> i do not need that. i needed the
command you provided
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1401 [15:20:59] <DevilTiger> it was helpful, i provided my thanks
for the help. idk what else to do here.
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1416 [15:28:17] <Lyberta> can I use overlayfs to trick apt to
install packages into my home directory?
1417 [15:28:51] <greycat> Create a chrooted Debian installation
(with debootstrap) and install in there.
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1420 [15:29:30] <Lyberta> greycat, ..buut.. that would create
essentially separate OS, right?
1421 [15:29:40] <greycat> Yes, which appears to be what you want.
1422 [15:29:43] <AlexNagy> greycat, I used the printer dialogue in
system settings. It's only showing their address as localhost.
They are on the wifi, but don't know where they are.
1423 [15:30:30] <Lyberta> greycat, no, I want to install a couple
of packages into my home directory so that I don't have to use
root user
1424 [15:30:48] <Kingsy> jelly: jif you are still around -->
replaced-url
1425 [15:31:05] <greycat> Lyberta: extract the files from the .deb
yourself
1426 [15:31:23] <greycat> Lyberta: they won't WORK in the
general case, because the pathnames will be wrong, but hey,
it's your $HOME
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1429 [15:31:54] <Lyberta> greycat, .... but the software I use
tries to call "sudo apt-get".. I just want to trick it to
install to home instead
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1431 [15:32:23] <greycat> if the thing you use is doing things you
don't want it to do, stop using it
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1433 [15:33:00] <AlexNagy> Lyberta, you could just compile from
sources and install it in $HOME, but that seems unwise.
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1435 [15:33:37] <Lyberta> greycat, I want to overcome its
problems, surely there is a way... I mean can't I write a
process that will hook all filesystem syscalls and returns what I
want?
1436 [15:33:43] <greycat> *plonk*
1437 [15:33:51] <Zgrokl> netfilter-persistent save >> script
say exited with return code 1, is there a way to diagnose why ?
1438 [15:33:52] <greycat> Tuesday continues.
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1440 [15:33:57] <Lyberta> AlexNagy, this is actually a package to
build C++ stuff......
1441 [15:34:27] <Lyberta> AlexNagy,
replaced-url
1442 [15:34:45] <AlexNagy> I'm following grey's lead,
Lyberta. Install it in the normal place and work with it like that.
Or don't. Either way.
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1445 [15:35:46] <rnoeau> Hello there, I've asked for some
help on debian-next but it seems not a lot of people talk there
1446 [15:36:02] <Lyberta> I'm looking at Docker but it seems
to create something like entire OS, is there a more lightweight
alternative?
1447 [15:36:10] <greycat> You never asked an actual *question*.
1448 [15:36:13] <AlexNagy> The only thing I can think of, greycat,
is that I'm connected directly to the printers and not through
the network. In that case, localhost would be a proper network
identifier?
1449 [15:36:16] <greycat> You just talked a lot about wanting to
upgrade.
1450 [15:36:44] <rnoeau> you're talking to me greycat ?
1451 [15:37:01] <greycat> AlexNagy: walk over to the printer and
try to get it to tell you its IP address on an LCD panel or by
printing a settings page
1452 [15:37:44] <AlexNagy> I don't know where the printer is.
I'm wanting an IP address so maybe I can pull up it's MAC
and trace it down in the network documentation.
1453 [15:37:48] <greycat> 09:57 [oftc] rnoeau|#debian-next>
Greetings 09:59 [oftc] rnoeau|#debian-next> I've freshly
installed Debian stable 10:00 [oftc] rnoeau|#debian-next> I read
the wiki of course 10:01 [oftc] rnoeau|#debian-next> I'll
send a privatebin in a second, 10:01 [oftc] rnoeau|#debian-next>
here you go
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1455 [15:37:55] <greycat> No question. Not a one, anywhere.
1456 [15:38:22] <rnoeau> haha sorry, i forgot a question mark, I
just wanted to be sure what i've is good
1457 [15:38:47] <rnoeau> may we move on that special channel
instead ?
1458 [15:40:01] <rnoeau> (if you're available of course)
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1504 [15:57:03] <catphish> i implemented some persistent-net udev
rules and they don't seem to work, can anyone suggest what
might be wrong here?
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1505 [15:57:59] <catphish> oh, i think maybe the kernel already
renamed them
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1508 [15:59:46] <SerajewelKS> catphish: check in
/usr/share/doc/udev i think...
1509 [15:59:56] <SerajewelKS> catphish: the 70-persistent-net file
was deprecated IIRC
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1512 [16:00:15] <SerajewelKS> there's some other systemd-ish
way to do it or something
1513 [16:00:24] <Tenkawa> hey all'
1514 [16:00:45] <catphish> SerajewelKS: my screenshot was useless
but i found the problem, i specified KERNEL="eth*" but
that failed to match because the kernel had already renamed it
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1530 [16:03:47] <darxmurf> hi again
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1532 [16:04:46] <darxmurf> I don't know what's wrong
with MDADM but when I boot my machine, it displays 50 lines of
"No arrays found in config file or automatically" and then
drops me on (initramfs)
1533 [16:05:22] <darxmurf> I booted a USB stick, removed lines in
mdadm.conf but it did not change anything
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1535 [16:05:26] <darxmurf> how can I fix that ?
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1550 [16:11:18] <msiism> am i right in assuming that the
alternatives system is not the recommended way to make per-user
customizations to a debian system (in general)?
1551 [16:11:44] <sikun> darxmurf, "mdadm --detail --scan
>> /etc/mdadm.conf" then "update-initramfs -u
&& update-grub"
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1553 [16:12:06] <sikun> when you boot off the USB drive of course
1554 [16:12:36] <darxmurf> ah, from busybox, nothing to do to save
the situation ?
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1558 [16:12:58] <sikun> the arrays have to be running though, so
you'll have to start them via mdadm
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1560 [16:13:23] <darxmurf> but what I don't understand is
those array are not hosting the OS
1561 [16:13:26] <darxmurf> there is nothing on it
1562 [16:13:30] <darxmurf> I just created them
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1565 [16:13:52] <darxmurf> one was wrongly done, I --stop and
--remove it and now it's crashed
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1567 [16:14:14] <sikun> but in order for a successful boot, the
array needs to be enabled. did you run update-initramfs -u after you
updated mdadm.conf ?
1568 [16:14:26] <sikun> and update-grub
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1570 [16:14:35] <darxmurf> nop
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1572 [16:15:14] <sikun> do that, and then see if your system boots
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1574 [16:15:41] <darxmurf> even if you edit grub and boot with
init=/bin/bash it crashes
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1599 [16:26:10] <minus> hi, i'm having troubles with a
preseed install. i have `d-i passwd/make-user boolean false` in my
preseed file, but i still get prompted for the new user creation.
this is the preseed file i'm using:
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1600 [16:26:10] <darxmurf> sikun: still not booting. mdadm
--detail --scan did not return anything
1601 [16:26:30] <darxmurf> there is no arrays declaration in
mdadm.conf
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1603 [16:26:44] <darxmurf> then I launched update-initramfs and
update grub
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1605 [16:27:21] <darxmurf> there is no more mdadm error messages
at boot but I fall in busybox
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1610 [16:29:33] <darxmurf> hmmm when booting in verbose mode I
have 50 times: Running /scripts/local/block...
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1614 [16:29:53] <darxmurf> and under busybox when I launch mdadm
--detail --scan it displays something
1615 [16:30:02] <SerajewelKS> catphish: ah, nice
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1620 [16:30:35] <darxmurf> ok I will chroot in the system and
remove mdadm it will probably fix the issue
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1622 [16:30:59] <darxmurf> and this fooking HP server which takes
10000 hours to initialize on each boot
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1624 [16:32:34] <jhutchins> I'm looking for some links that
would help explain to a non-technical person "What is
Linux?". Basic introduction for someone who doesn't deal
with things on the OS level.
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1626 [16:33:31] <sikun> darxmurf, mdadm --examine --scan --verbose
1627 [16:33:37] <n4dir> is there much to say about it on the
non-technical level? jhutchins
1628 [16:33:49] <darxmurf> sikun: in rescue mode ?
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1630 [16:33:54] <sikun> yeah
1631 [16:33:55] <n4dir> in general wikipedia isn't that bad
when it comes to such questions.
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1633 [16:34:40] <darxmurf> sikun: I have one array here
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1636 [16:34:52] <darxmurf> /dev/md/1
1637 [16:34:59] <rant> jhutchins: there is plenty on the about
section of debian.org and Peter Wayner's Free For All is
available free online and is a non technical intro to foss
1638 [16:35:19] <Number6> Hi! I'm running Debian 9. How can I
install php-mapi for php 7.3?
1639 [16:35:30] <darxmurf> should I mdadm --remove it ?
1640 [16:35:56] <SerajewelKS> hmm having the system drop you to
initramfs because an array didn't assemble, even though
it's not required to boot, is very strange
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1642 [16:36:28] <sikun> ^
1643 [16:36:41] <SerajewelKS> something else is wrong if
that's happening
1644 [16:36:47] <rant> youd need noerror opts on any fs it
contains in fstab
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1646 [16:36:49] <nkuttler> ,v php-mapi
1647 [16:36:50] <judd> Package: php-mapi on amd64 -- sid: 8.7.0-1;
buster: 8.7.0-2
1648 [16:36:52] <SerajewelKS> Number6: PHP 7.3 is not in debian 9
1649 [16:37:02] <Number6> SerajewelKS: I know, I used a repo
1650 [16:37:16] <rant> or else it IS considered req
1651 [16:37:19] <SerajewelKS> Number6: then the answer is, check
in that repo
1652 [16:38:14] <SerajewelKS> if it's not there you may have
to compile it yourself. PHP 7.3 isn't officially supported in
stretch if it's not in the official repos. if you wander away
from the official repos you're kind of on your own because we
don't know what some random repo does.
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1654 [16:38:23] <Number6> :-(
1655 [16:38:29] <darxmurf> sikun: --remove on this ghost array
should fix the issue ?
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1657 [16:38:57] <SerajewelKS> honestly just zeroing the
superblocks of the raid members should do the trick as well, if the
array is exclusively being found by probing
1658 [16:39:13] <SerajewelKS> if you make sure that there's
no references in mdadm.conf, and you zero the superblocks of the
members, the array ceases to exist
1659 [16:39:26] <SerajewelKS> (assuming that you don't need
any data on the array)
1660 [16:40:47] <darxmurf> okay I zeroed superblock,
update-initramfs and grub
1661 [16:40:49] <darxmurf> will see
1662 [16:41:04] <SerajewelKS> good luck
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1664 [16:41:19] <darxmurf> this server is a nightmare
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1668 [16:41:48] <SerajewelKS> i feel your pain
1669 [16:41:56] <darxmurf> Will never make a good picture of HP
from now :D
1670 [16:42:07] <darxmurf> crap
1671 [16:42:13] <SerajewelKS> i have an HP server at my house. it
feels like it takes a year to POST.
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1675 [16:42:23] <darxmurf> 2 servers to reinstall 2 nightmares
1676 [16:42:24] <SerajewelKS> but once it's running, it works
well enough
1677 [16:42:31] <darxmurf> well...
1678 [16:42:43] <darxmurf> the 1st one I reinstalled looks fine
1679 [16:42:46] <rant> jhutchins:
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1680 [16:42:48] <SerajewelKS> i had some weird boot issues but
i'm not sure how much of that was the BIOS and how much of it
was grub. but moving /boot to its own volume fixed them.
1681 [16:42:50] <darxmurf> but this one :-x
1682 [16:43:03] <darxmurf> and what the hell, you need licenses
for everything
1683 [16:43:10] <darxmurf> even to update the bios
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1687 [16:44:16] <SerajewelKS> yeah it's a bit of a racket
1688 [16:44:23] <darxmurf> wtf it's still droping me in
busybox
1689 [16:44:28] <SerajewelKS> i refuse to buy an iLO license for a
home server
1690 [16:44:53] <SerajewelKS> i just have the VGA port connected
to my desktop's monitor and i switch inputs when i need to use
it
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1692 [16:45:37] <SerajewelKS> i'm glad that you can at least
use iLO for free until the OS begins to boot, so you can deal with
POST issues without needing to futz with cables. generally once the
guest comes up (if it does correctly) then i have ssh anyway.
1693 [16:45:39] <dzove855> $/6
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1695 [16:45:41] <darxmurf> the ILO on this one allows me to remote
the screen for like 1 minute
1696 [16:45:59] <SerajewelKS> yeah. once the BIOS transfers
control to the OS bootloader you have a timer.
1697 [16:45:59] <__m4ch1n3__> then hurry up
1698 [16:46:05] <darxmurf> ^^
1699 [16:46:06] <SerajewelKS> but you can use iLO indefinitely in
the BIOS
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1702 [16:46:37] <SerajewelKS> okay so, does it give you any errors
when it drops you to the initramfs shell?
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1704 [16:46:38] <darxmurf> wow, is this dumb mdadm unhappy because
the mdadm.conf file is empty ???
1705 [16:46:48] <SerajewelKS> is it?
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1707 [16:46:58] <darxmurf> yep, I don't have RAID arrays
anymore with it
1708 [16:47:06] <SerajewelKS> i mean is that why it's
unhappy?
1709 [16:47:14] <darxmurf> look like
1710 [16:47:21] <SerajewelKS> if you don't have an mdadm.conf
then update-initramfs shouldn't configure the initrd for raid
1711 [16:47:23] <darxmurf> wait, I'll rescue again
1712 [16:47:32] <SerajewelKS> how are you invoking
update-initramfs?
1713 [16:47:32] <darxmurf> there is a file but empty
1714 [16:47:36] <darxmurf> -u
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1716 [16:47:43] <SerajewelKS> hmm
1717 [16:47:49] <SerajewelKS> i'd suggest adding "-k
all"
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1720 [16:47:58] <darxmurf> wait, I delete the mdadm conf file
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1722 [16:48:06] <SerajewelKS> just run mkconf
1723 [16:48:37] <SerajewelKS> the standard is:
/usr/share/mdadm/mkconf > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
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1726 [16:48:57] <SerajewelKS> i don't know why there's
not some script in $PATH to do it, like update-mdadm
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1728 [16:49:17] <SerajewelKS> once you run that, make sure it
doesn't list any arrays
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1730 [16:49:27] <SerajewelKS> then "update-initramfs -u -k
all" and reboot
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1736 [16:51:36] <darxmurf> when I run update-initramfs it says
"W: mdadm.conf defines no arrays"
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1742 [16:53:23] <darxmurf> okay, last chance, I removed mdadm
--purge
1743 [16:53:26] <darxmurf> fook it
1744 [16:53:27] <darxmurf> damn
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1750 [16:54:33] <darxmurf> SerajewelKS: just to know, after any
change or whatever on md arrays I should run update-initramfs ?
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1754 [16:56:53] <darxmurf> okay... now it still displays
"running /scripts/local-block/... 50 times
1755 [16:56:57] <darxmurf> and busybox
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1757 [16:57:21] <darxmurf> WTF, in busybox this folder does not
even exists
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1767 [17:04:01] <Walex> darxmurf: depends at which point the MD
set is used, but it is a good ideaanyhow.
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1770 [17:05:22] <darxmurf> Walex: I removed mdadm
1771 [17:05:54] <darxmurf> why the hell my boot loops on this
/scripts/local-block/ folder which is not existing ?
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1827 [17:25:35] <darxmurf> now when updating grub it says cannot
find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdg1 check your device.map
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1830 [17:26:27] <darxmurf> I dont have device.map file...
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1837 [17:27:47] <darxmurf> ah dumb it's my USB key
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1855 [17:35:00] <rander2> hello
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1869 [17:43:29] <Unplesantry> hi
1870 [17:43:40] <Unplesantry> how to create a custom launcher
1871 [17:44:14] <Unplesantry> not just a terminal comand
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1873 [17:44:37] <Unplesantry> i mean my shell script is working
fine as a luncher
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1877 [17:45:00] <aloo_shu> Unplesantry: for example, by looking at
an existing one, and editing
1878 [17:45:04] <Unplesantry> but now i want to add more commands
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1880 [17:45:08] <Unplesantry> when you close it
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1883 [17:46:31] <galaxie> Hi, I was wondering, I'm trying to
flash Debian onto a BeagleBone device, I'm supposed to or at
least am able to flash it onto eMMC. I'm confused as to what
exactly would get flashed. Is it just the kernel and other
supporting stuff? Or does it include Debian packages I install? I
only have 2 or 4 GB of eMMC so I wanted to know how much would be
used and if I can configure it to install stuff to microSD.
1884 [17:46:58] <aloo_shu> that's if your talking a launcher
aka .desktop file, otherwise, you're probably looking at a
*wrapper script* (which could still be called from a launcher),
Unplesantry
1885 [17:47:59] <Unplesantry> ok so
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1887 [17:48:09] <Unplesantry> i want to add it to cairo dock too
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1890 [17:48:26] <Unplesantry> right now i just made it from cairo
dock pointing to a shell script
1891 [17:48:40] <Unplesantry> but i want to add that closing
feature
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1893 [17:48:50] <darxmurf> still busybox
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1895 [17:49:06] <darxmurf> just before that it says gave up resume
partition
1896 [17:49:17] <darxmurf> the swap partition is correct
1897 [17:49:27] <darxmurf> in fstab and initramfs conf
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1899 [17:49:45] <darxmurf> I don't understand how deleting a
simple MD array can wreck a full server
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1903 [17:50:56] <rander2>
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1904 [17:51:28] <rander2> the line number 8
1905 [17:52:19] <rander2> how is my hdd ?
1906 [17:52:32] <aloo_shu> Unplesantry: make your script something
like echo before; myprogram; echo after; invoke from a shell, and
check if myprogram returns to the calling script properly
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1909 [17:53:41] <aloo_shu> unless you make it exec myprogram, in
theory, it *should* return, Unplesantry
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1918 [17:56:49] <hesco> on a new installation of deian 9.7, my
system has never recognized eth0, and now reboots fail to bring up
the wifi as well. I am most concerned with the wired connection.
There is no evidence of it in the /var/log/messages. I've poked
about in the BIOS and have found nothing that seems to control it.
1919 [17:57:01] <hesco> Any ideas how to put this machine back
online?
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1921 [17:57:43] <Unplesantry> hmm
1922 [17:57:48] <Unplesantry> i need more information
1923 [17:58:32] <greycat> hesco: the interface name may not be
"eth0" any more. Check "ip link" or
"netstat -in" or similar.
1924 [17:58:42] <aloo_shu> hesco ip link list could be as start
1925 [17:59:07] <darxmurf> okay fuck it, I reinstall the machine
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1932 [18:01:15] <Unplesantry> lol
1933 [18:01:19] <Unplesantry> thats the spirit
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1937 [18:02:23] <aloo_shu> hard is the life of the dark smurf..
1938 [18:02:52] <Unplesantry> the winds are shifting
1939 [18:03:42] <hesco> greycat, aloo_shu: thanks for the
guidance. netstat command not found, and `ip link list` shows only
lo and wlp3s0, the wifi interface which is DOWN
1940 [18:04:05] <greycat> it's not finding the ethernet
interface at all? that sounds like a hardware issue.
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1942 [18:04:39] <greycat> (or the hardware is simply unsupported
by this kernel, or you need a third party driver, etc.)
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1955 [18:12:12] <__m4ch1n3__> hesco, sounds like you are missing
non-free device firmware files
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1957 [18:13:18] <__m4ch1n3__>
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1958 [18:13:31] <jelly> firmware for wired devices usually enables
extra acceleration features, not the whole dev
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1963 [18:14:14] <jelly> hesco: can you pastebin output of
"lspci -nn", showing the network device in question?
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1975 [18:26:44] <NetTerminalGene> does firefox-esr on debian use
system ca root certificates?
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1980 [18:27:10] <jelly> NetTerminalGene: absolutely yes
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1982 [18:27:44] <NetTerminalGene> jelly, not firefox internal
certificates?
1983 [18:28:02] <NetTerminalGene> i mean certificates that mozilla
trust
1984 [18:28:31] <jelly> NetTerminalGene: certs from Debian's
ca-certificates package do come from Mozilla
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1986 [18:28:50] <NetTerminalGene> ah!
1987 [18:28:55] <jelly> and you can add your own CA .pem to
/usr/local/share/ca-certificates, run update-ca-certificates,
restart the browser and access sites signed with that
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1990 [18:30:06] <NetTerminalGene> jelly, i asked this, because
DarkMatter surveillance company asked mozilla to trust their root ca
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1993 [18:31:13] <NetTerminalGene> DarkMatter is united arab
emirates surveillance company that supported by US
1994 [18:31:15] <jelly> NetTerminalGene: and do you think people
maintaining ca-certificates have not read the same thing and plan to
do the smart thing?
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1997 [18:31:37] <jelly> it was all over the news
1998 [18:32:05] <NetTerminalGene> i don't know whether they
would so smart thing
1999 [18:32:11] <NetTerminalGene> do*
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2005 [18:35:51] <jelly> NetTerminalGene: but you do trust them
implicitely by using debian at all.
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2008 [18:36:21] <NetTerminalGene> :/
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2011 [18:37:12] <jelly> in any case it's not hard to
dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates and exclude the CAs you think are
not trustworthy
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2017 [18:42:07] <NetTerminalGene> it sounds like advanced stuff.
trouble
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2019 [18:42:15] <NetTerminalGene> for me
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2038 [18:55:18] <jelly> it's really not, you untick some CAs,
and they stay unticked and not active and not trusted
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2077 [19:17:04] <SerajewelKS> NetTerminalGene: if you distrust
that CA then you distrust far more than DarkMatter-related things
2078 [19:17:18] <SerajewelKS> it breaks a lot of sites that
aren't related to DarkMatter and weren't issued certs by
DarkMatter
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2087 [19:25:01] <SerajewelKS> pulse never ceases to amaze me.
pulse with the equalizer plugin has extreme lag and pops.
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2089 [19:25:17] <SerajewelKS> but pulse sending auto to jack, then
jack to ardour, ardour back to jack, jack to alsa -- no lag and
flawless
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2094 [19:26:13] <SerajewelKS> running pulse on jack instead of
pulse on alsa has resolved basically all of my audio issues
2095 [19:26:39] <SerajewelKS> i would never have believed that if
i didn't try it
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2099 [19:27:42] <SerajewelKS> and then you insert ardour into the
system and get a full-blown DAW so i can compress specific audio
streams, eq others... it's fantastic
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2126 [19:39:16] <xaeB5> can anyone recommend some easy to use
software in debian repos to rip/convert a dvd disc to a single .mp4
file?
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2129 [19:40:42] <xaeB5> its a non-encrypted dvd if that matters
2130 [19:40:55] <jmcnaught> xaeB5: did you try handbrake?
2131 [19:41:40] <xaeB5> jmcnaught: no i did some searching online
but wanted to see what was recommended for debian. i can check out
handbrake if it can do that
2132 [19:41:42] <xaeB5> thanks
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2157 [20:00:09] <mason> xaeB5: Handbrake works well if you're
moving to mp4. I like vobcopy for mirroring.
2158 [20:00:37] <xaeB5> ill do both, thanks mason
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2160 [20:02:16] <mason> xaeB5: If you're using handbrake,
look at the settings - two-pass and variable bitrate can be
space-savers without impacting quality.
2161 [20:02:35] <xaeB5> so if anyone has handbrake exprience, i
selected my source and pointed it to the dvd, it scanned and found
some files on there. but the "Start" button is greyed out
so not sure how i can actually start the conversion process. mpeg-4
is already selected from format drop-down
2162 [20:02:39] <diogenes_> Hello guys, do you know any network
traffic monitoring tool to see what is using the most of internet
bandwidth just now?
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2166 [20:02:59] <mason> xaeB5: Maybe you have to select a chapter
or a destination.
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2172 [20:03:49] <xaeB5> mason: i gave it a destination folder
which is just home directory, and under the chapters tab there is
nothing so i guess the dvd doesn't have any chapters
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2183 [20:07:17] <mason> xaeB5: And you have a name typed into the
"save as" field?
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2189 [20:08:29] <xaeB5> yes im going to try and eject and dvd and
put it back in because it did sound like it wasn't spinning
right. i'm copying the files off manually to have a backup
first then i will mess around with handbrake again
2190 [20:08:31] <Tenkawa> diogenes_: tcpdump would be a start
although it deals with low level data so you would probably want a
front end to go with it
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2192 [20:08:50] <Tenkawa> unless you want to do packet level
analysis
2193 [20:08:57] <mason> xaeB5: I'm not altogether sure what
you're seeing, unfortunately. But if you keep poking at it
you'll get it.
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2195 [20:09:21] <diogenes_> Tenkawa, thank you, gonna check that
out.
2196 [20:09:33] <xaeB5> mason: it's fine i'll figure it
out thanks for the help
2197 [20:09:34] <Tenkawa> sure no problem
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threads compiling at once on one machine
2206 [20:11:20] <Tenkawa> (especially a notebook)
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2211 [20:12:29] <aloo_shu> SerajewelKS: have you ever checked the
priorities pulse is running at as main server vs. under jack?
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2219 [20:17:13] <aloo_shu> SerajewelKS: if jack simply were better
at being granted swift scheduling by the kernel, that would roughly
fit symptoms, and jack pkg could indeed come with a few tweaks not
implemented on a normal desktop distro
2220 [20:18:01] <xaeB5> mason: it's working now fyi
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2224 [20:19:26] <mason> xaeB5: Nice - what was wrong with the
first run?
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2229 [20:23:10] <xaeB5> mason: no idea. i had to eject the dvd and
put it back in before it would spin properly
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2231 [20:23:21] <xaeB5> was struggling to spin before that
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2239 [20:28:38] <mason> xaeB5: Alright, maybe that was it then.
Cool, either way.
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2297 [21:04:40] <Kobaz> trying to use debian-ports on
i386/jessie... what would be the proper sources line?
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2299 [21:05:29] <greycat> What is "debian-ports"?
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2301 [21:05:58] <Kobaz>
replaced-url
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2303 [21:06:30] <Kobaz> trying to install earlyoom on i386 jessie,
having a hard time finding packages
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2305 [21:06:45] <Kobaz> i seee there's an x32, not sure how
that differs yet from i386
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2313 [21:09:11] <Kobaz> looks like you need an x64 host for x32,
so meh, that's not going to work
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2327 [21:18:58] <SerajewelKS> aloo_shu: sorry, internet had issues
for a moment
2328 [21:19:15] <SerajewelKS> aloo_shu: running pulse with
realtime scheduling didn't fix anything
2329 [21:19:32] <SerajewelKS> trust me, i've tried tweaking
pulse in just about every imaginable way
2330 [21:20:47] <aloo_shu> then it looks like pulse's
components being of varied quality, and the jack source & sink
in the better half
2331 [21:21:03] <SerajewelKS> could be
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2336 [21:23:14] <aloo_shu> have you tried, for fun, switching a
pulse eq module in while pulse is running under jack?
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2338 [21:25:11] <aloo_shu> s/under/bridged into/
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2390 [21:55:52] <n_1-c_k> On my lan I have two computers, both
running Debian stable. One has a printer attached via USB and can
print. I would like also to print from the other computer. Can this
feat be accomplished?
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2399 [21:58:37] <festerjester> @n_1-c_k: I think you maybe looking
to share the printer via samba
2400 [21:58:45] <greycat> via CUPS, surely
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2406 [22:00:46] <n_1-c_k> I've been trying through CUPS and
after eleventy million attempts have partial communication. But the
server says "HTTP_STATE_WAITING Closing for error 32 (Broken
pipe)", among many others things, it no print appears...
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2408 [22:01:28] <n_1-c_k> Maybe I *should* try samba?
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2410 [22:03:29] <festerjester> I have not shared a printer via
samba, but I know it is possible. There was one setup through samba
at my last job.
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2412 [22:03:46] <greycat> I would only go that way if there are
also Windows clients on the network that want to print too.
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2418 [22:05:35] <n_1-c_k> greycat: that would have been my
response too, about two hours ago. Now, I'm not so sure.
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2424 [22:08:15] <antto> ,v kicad
2425 [22:08:16] <judd> Package: kicad on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.20120526+bzr3261-1; jessie: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3;
jessie-backports: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4;
jessie-backports-sloppy: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports:
5.0.2+dfsg1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 5.0.2+dfsg1-1; sid: 5.0.2+dfsg1-1;
experimental: 5.1~20190127.4fc692f+dfsg1-1
2426 [22:09:42] <n_1-c_k> Gasp, my eleventy million and third
attempt appears to be working! Not much thanks to the
"help" provided by cups, sadly.
2427 [22:10:13] <n_1-c_k> CUPS is no friendlier than it was 15
years ago :( Not that I've done anything to fix it myself.
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2433 [22:13:39] <festerjester> Anyone know how to change screen
resolution from a tty when there is no x session?
2434 [22:13:57] <_m4ch1n3_> intel gpu?
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2437 [22:14:08] <festerjester> yes
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2441 [22:15:53] <_m4ch1n3_> 1) echo "options i915
modeset=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf
2442 [22:16:08] <_m4ch1n3_> 2) add bootoption: video=1280x720
2443 [22:16:16] <_m4ch1n3_> or any other res you want
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2445 [22:17:36] <_m4ch1n3_> edit "/etc/default/grub"
2446 [22:18:16] <_m4ch1n3_>
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="video=1280x720"
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2448 [22:18:29] <_m4ch1n3_> then update-grub
2449 [22:18:32] <_m4ch1n3_> reboot
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2452 [22:22:05] <festerjester> actually, doesn't look like I
have grub
2453 [22:22:10] <festerjester> looks like syslinux
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2455 [22:22:45] <OS-43533> !joe
2456 [22:22:45] <dpkg> The LAST ULTIMATE EDITOR, BETTER THAN ALL
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2459 [22:23:06] <_m4ch1n3_> oh k, duno how its done in syslinux
but bootoption is same for sure
2460 [22:23:54] <_m4ch1n3_> just add to the line that starts with
"linux ..." video=<XRES>x<YRES> at the end
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2463 [22:26:22] <_m4ch1n3_> you could "ls
/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
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2466 [22:26:40] <_m4ch1n3_> if file exsists you have propably grub
2467 [22:28:04] <_m4ch1n3_> you should also take resolution that
is supported by your display + gpu
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2469 [22:30:24] <festerjester> I am trying to set a resolution of
800x600 so I should hope that is supported
2470 [22:30:48] <_m4ch1n3_>
replaced-url
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2473 [22:31:46] <_m4ch1n3_> /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg
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2475 [22:32:19] <_m4ch1n3_> seems that you should add video=XxY to
the line that starts with APPEND
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2484 [22:34:38] <_m4ch1n3_> regular display should be able to
handle 800x600
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2503 [22:39:23] <trysten> rwp: plug something in that you know and
examine lsusb?
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2505 [22:39:37] <trysten> sorry for ping, i was scrolled up.
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2510 [22:40:11] <trysten> Sanity check. If I put Require all
denied in an .htaccess file, it should basically block that
directory, right?
2511 [22:40:14] <jelly> festerjester: what kind of hardware
platform is this that does not use grub?
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2522 [22:43:35] <festerjester> @jelly: it is actually slax 9
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2525 [22:44:26] <festerjester> jelly: but there is no one in the
slax irc right now
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2527 [22:44:46] <jelly> be patient, and ask in the right channel
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2529 [22:45:05] <jelly> (or, say, ##linux if you think it might be
a more generic issue)
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2532 [22:45:57] <jelly> I'm assuming "slax 9" is
some sort of linux distro, and not a piece of hardware.
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2534 [22:46:37] <festerjester> slax 9 is a slightly modified
version of debian. Designed to boot from USB
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2537 [22:48:19] <jelly> right. If it's "slightly
modified" you want to ask the people who did the modifications
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2546 [22:52:07] <festerjester> _m4ch1n3_: Thank you for the help.
I think the i915.conf was the missing piece. Also, in the
syslinux.cfg file I had to change "vga=normal" to
"vga=789"
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