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• 246[01:57:42] <s5fs> I created a unit file for spawn-fcgi and it doesn't work quite right. When I try to start it using 'systemctl start my.service' it hangs forever, logs that it spawns listeners, logs "unit my.service entered failed state", then dies, restarts all services and it's fine??
• 247[01:57:49] <s5fs> also I can 'systemctl stop' just fine.
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• 251[01:58:12] <s5fs> clearly I'm doing something wrong but dang, any advice?
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• 256[02:00:09] <s5fs> here is my unit file: replaced-url
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• 291[02:16:07] <Packagebug> There is a bug in opencv stable, which means it is still unstable. hist = cv2.calcHist([image],[0],None,[256],[0,256]) causes cv2.error: /build/opencv-FWWjHr/opencv-2.4.9.1+dfsg/modules/core/src/matrix.cpp:236: error: (-215) step[dims-1] == (size_t)CV_ELEM_SIZE(flags) in function create
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• 301[02:23:29] <brizz> im on debian testing release...since updating a few min ago, my openvpn...when its connected, dns no longer resolves (can ping ips)
• 302[02:23:44] <brizz> trying to figure out what happened.. reinstalled openvpn/etc still have issues
• 303[02:23:53] <markybob> brizz: we don't support testing here per /topic. that's in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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• 306[02:25:56] <brizz> thx for pointing me
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• 329[02:34:59] <tomnor> How do I check when I installed my system for the first time
• 330[02:35:10] <tomnor> On my machine
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• 333[02:37:29] <rhizome> before any upgrades?
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• 335[02:38:38] <tomnor> Yes, the very first time I installed Debian on my computer.
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• 338[02:39:47] <PryMar56> tomnor, check the date of format? look at `lost & found`
• 339[02:40:01] <rhizome> date of /root
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• 344[02:42:07] <tomnor> format?
• 345[02:42:56] <PryMar56> tomnor, when filesystem was created
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• 347[02:43:44] <tomnor> PryMar56, yea, how do I do that?
• 348[02:44:07] <PryMar56> tomnor, ls -al /lost+found
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• 350[02:44:43] <PryMar56> or dumpe2fs -h /dev/<root device name>
• 351[02:45:10] <tomnor> PryMar56, I just did check the lost+found, seems to be a date to suspect
• 352[02:45:16] <abrotman> tomnor: look for the installation log in /var/log/
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• 357[02:46:10] <tomnor> PryMar56, does it mean that the lost+found directory never change date
• 358[02:46:26] <tomnor> PryMar56, what is that directory about anyway
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• 369[02:52:46] <tomnor> cool, Filesystem created: Sat Apr 28 00:55:46 2012
• 370[02:53:06] <tomnor> from dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda5
• 371[02:53:08] <tomnor> in my case
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• 373[02:53:24] <tomnor> thanks
• 374[02:54:09] <Slimmy> hello everybody! I have a 1.6 ghz processor and running the latest version of debian testing. Any ideas how to overclock my cpu up to 1.8 or 1.9? I just want a LITTLE bit so streaming gets less laggy. Any ideas fellas?
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• 376[02:54:41] <cafuego> Usually by accessing the expert settings in your bios.
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• 379[02:54:56] <Slimmy> cafuego: It's a notebook
• 380[02:55:01] <Slimmy> netbook* (?)
• 381[02:55:17] <cafuego> that doesn't change my response
• 382[02:55:17] <freeone3000> Your UEFI, then.
• 383[02:55:42] <cafuego> Gone are the days you had to set jumpers in the mainboard :-)
• 384[02:56:06] <Slimmy> I can't :/ I've already searched the bios and no clue. It's a 7 year old laptop
• 385[02:56:18] <cafuego> I don't suppose it has a [TURBO] button?
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• 387[02:56:52] <Slimmy> cafuego: Hehe nope :P
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• 390[02:58:07] <cafuego> Just check the manual for your netbook; on most of my hardware the overclock settings require an extra key combo to unlock them.
• 391[02:59:28] <Slimmy> cafuego: I'm pretty sure I had done that when I first got it but I'll take a look right away. There is NO way doing it in bash?
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• 393[03:01:28] <cafuego> Slimmy: Happily no.
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• 395[03:02:09] <Slimmy> cafuego: Alright. Admittely you aroused my curiousity. Why "happily"?
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• 398[03:02:52] <cafuego> Slimmy: user logs in and burns out the system by setting cpu speed to 2x or ups the voltage
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• 401[03:03:56] <cafuego> Slimmy: It's good that sort of damage vector requires physical access, not a bug in adobe flash ;-)
• 402[03:04:01] <Slimmy> cafuego: Why is that a problem? It's user's fault. I won't blame "rm" if I su -c 'rm -rf /*'
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• 408[03:08:36] <markybob> Slimmy: because root exploits that elevate users do happen. should be in bios and stay there
• 409[03:08:56] <s5fs> I'm having trouble getting starting 'spawn-fcgi' using systemd. On startup it works fine, but when I run 'systemctl start my.service' it starts things up correctly but eventually returns an error. It's weird weird weird.
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• 414[03:12:38] <pencilandpaper> Brb, switching to my phone real quick.
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• 419[03:13:06] <Cloudwalker42> I have some problem with the apache webserver. I have several vHosts on my server and want to add one vhost which only should redirect to a specific URL. This special vhost dont have a documentroot or something like that. I don't have an idea how to write the configuration . I tried options like rediect or redirect permanent but apache doesn't accept this. The Configtest by apache2ctl tells me that m
• 420[03:13:12] <Cloudwalker42> y synatax is correct.
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• 426[03:15:23] <s5fs> Cloudwalker42: check this, replaced-url
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• 428[03:16:09] <s5fs> specifically the second example
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• 443[03:19:34] <Cloudwalker42> s5fs: good guy thx
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• 462[03:25:37] <gustavohmsilva> hello guys!
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• 464[03:25:54] <gustavohmsilva> check it out, is there any specific channel on freenode about virtual networks?
• 465[03:25:58] <gustavohmsilva> on linux?
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• 467[03:26:18] <gustavohmsilva> just so I don't end up asking here if there an specific channel for it
• 468[03:29:01] <abrotman> ther'es a #networking ?
• 469[03:29:45] <gustavohmsilva> hum, good chance there is... I just found KVM
• 470[03:30:01] <gustavohmsilva> gonna try there (since its a virtual network for a set of kvm guest machines)
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• 491[03:40:21] <cjen2837> hey. could someone please help me with remapping a key to another key in debian. i want to make print screen equal to pressing the number 2
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• 495[03:41:30] <cjen2837> when i searched online for a way to do that i came across some forums where they used xmodmap, but i don't see that in debian
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• 498[03:44:29] <simonlnu> cjen2837: you didn't search well enough to find that it does exist "in debian".
• 499[03:45:15] <cjen2837> simonlnu, apt-cache policy xmodmap shows 'none' as candidate
• 500[03:45:18] <cjen2837> explain
• 501[03:45:18] <markybob> cjen2837: it's in x11-xserver-utils
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• 503[03:45:38] <abrotman> dpkg: tell cjen2837 about apt-file
• 504[03:45:48] <cjen2837> thanks markybob
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• 506[03:45:56] <simonlnu> why are you using 'policy'? (and dlocate)
• 507[03:46:13] <cjen2837> and abrotman
• 508[03:46:15] <simonlnu> dlocate very nice if you have it installed
• 509[03:46:45] <cjen2837> simonlnu, don't know what you're talking about. just don't worry about it anymore ok
• 510[03:47:11] * simonlnu isn't worried
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• 513[03:47:37] <simonlnu> some people are touchy *shrug*
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• 516[03:48:09] <abrotman> wtf
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• 541[03:58:34] <Cloudwalker42> If I use this tutorial replaced-url
• 542[03:58:40] <Cloudwalker42> shoud redirect to a specific URL.
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• 547[03:58:56] <abrotman> You probably want #httpd for advanced apache configuration
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• 550[03:59:51] <Cloudwalker42> After the changes and the reload all my vhosts areant reachable over the internet... im not sure maybe its better to use the Rewrite Engine isteed of the Permanen Redirect ...
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• 554[04:00:27] <Cloudwalker42> abrotman: httpd is dead ... no one there that can help me :/
• 555[04:00:53] <markybob> Cloudwalker42: it's called patience. wait. it's not a #debian issue
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• 558[04:01:22] <Cloudwalker42> abrotman: sry i was in the wront channel .... there a lot of users but i cant write something there ...
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• 560[04:02:41] <abrotman> Cloudwalker42: /msg nickserv help
• 561[04:02:54] <Cloudwalker42> abrotman: thx :3
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• 565[04:05:12] <smilenname> hello
• 566[04:05:27] <smilenname> how can configure analog output sound to mono audio?
• 567[04:06:19] <smilenname> i have old speaker mono audio
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• 575[04:08:11] <smilenname> and with stereo output i take distorted sound
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• 578[04:09:07] <karlpinc> smilenname: Add yourself to the "audio" group. (Logout and back in. or something like "su -l myusername") Then try using alsamixer.
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• 581[04:09:30] <karlpinc> smilenname: I don't really know sound, just know enough to be able to lookup that answer.
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• 583[04:10:28] <karlpinc> smilenname: If that does not work there may be some answer related to pulseaudio configuration. Dunno.
• 584[04:11:20] <somiaj> you may also be able to find some option you can pass your sound module to get the sound card in a different mode.
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• 591[04:15:23] <smilenname> with alsamixer can not find anything, for mono stereo etc
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• 593[04:15:54] <asterismo> hi
• 594[04:16:02] <asterismo> can i delete /var/log files?
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• 597[04:16:49] <somiaj> asterismo: depending on the log file just completely deleting the file may cause issues (i.e. can the app create the new log file). But besides for worrying about that, yes
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• 600[04:17:14] <somiaj> asterismo: are you wanting to delete the log file, or the backup logs (that logrotate makes), you can also configure how long logrotate goes before deleting logs.
• 601[04:17:17] <asterismo> somiaj because i messed up with the system permissions
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• 603[04:17:21] <asterismo> on one PC
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• 605[04:17:29] <abrotman> only in /var/log/ ?
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• 607[04:17:32] <asterismo> and i mostly restored important files permissions
• 608[04:17:36] <asterismo> all the system
• 609[04:17:50] <asterismo> and i noticed that /var/log has plenty of different permissions
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• 611[04:18:11] <asterismo> now postfix is giving me an error of permision denied
• 612[04:18:15] <asterismo> and refuses to send mail
• 613[04:18:20] <asterismo> for example
• 614[04:18:36] <asterismo> i cannot reinstall the system right now
• 615[04:18:44] <somiaj> asterismo: as I said you need to be careful. It could be the log files are set up with specific permsisions to allow the application (not running as root) to write to the log file.
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• 619[04:19:15] <somiaj> You may also need to have any subdirs created. And unsure if applications try to create log files if they are missing or just error out (this too might depend on the application)
• 620[04:19:22] <somiaj> hence better to just blank the log file as opposed to delete
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• 624[04:20:33] <rimdeker> Can someone help me with parted? Anybody here perhaps have an idea how to create an "mmcblk0boot1" using parted?
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• 627[04:21:27] <asterismo> i'm having this error postfix/postdrop warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop. Permission denied
• 628[04:21:34] <asterismo> what should i look at?
• 629[04:21:36] <abrotman> that's not a problem with logs
• 630[04:21:40] <asterismo> what are the mail folders?
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• 632[04:21:48] <asterismo> just /var/mail?
• 633[04:21:54] <abrotman> asterismo: that depends on your postfix configuration
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• 636[04:22:11] <asterismo> abrotman: i'll look then
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• 640[04:23:34] <asterismo> ok
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• 642[04:23:47] <asterismo> how do i change a file to meet this permission? -rwsr-sr-x
• 643[04:24:45] <asterismo> what the "s" stands for?
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• 645[04:25:57] <somiaj> this it is the setuid bit
• 646[04:26:01] <somiaj> think
• 647[04:26:42] <asterismo> i need to change from -rwxr-xr-x to -rwsr-sr-x
• 648[04:27:07] <dvs> so ug+s ?
• 649[04:27:48] <asterismo> dvs: we have a winner
• 650[04:27:59] <dvs> !prize me
• 651[04:27:59] * dpkg gives dvs a My Little Pony.
• 652[04:28:02] <dvs> yay
• 653[04:28:27] <rimdeker> I need to create a partition like this ( replaced-url
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• 655[04:29:04] <asterismo> lol
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• 677[04:40:23] <Duglas-M> Aaaaaaa
• 678[04:40:23] <Duglas-M> Sda
• 679[04:40:24] <Duglas-M> Sd
• 680[04:40:24] <Duglas-M> A
• 681[04:40:30] <Duglas-M> Alguien spanish?
• 682[04:40:36] <markybob> !es
• 683[04:40:36] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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• 709[05:10:50] <RoyK> is lvmcache supported in current debian releases?
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• 718[05:14:54] <somiaj> RoyK: What is lvmcache? Is it a feature with newer versions of lvm or something that needs to be configured at compile time?
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• 720[05:15:20] <somiaj> RoyK: you can both check hat version of the lvm tools debian is using and what compile time options are used. I don't know the answer to this question though.
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• 725[05:19:02] <RoyK> somiaj: seems lvmcache is a rather nifty version of dm-cache allowing you to add caching devices dynamically
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• 728[05:20:01] <somiaj> RoyK: so it is actually another peice of software? I wasn't sure if it was some confguation option
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• 730[05:20:17] <somiaj> RoyK: my search for lvmcache in packages and files in debian returned nothing
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• 732[05:20:28] <RoyK> somiaj: not that I need it myself - I use zfs - but a friend of mine has a rather large raid and wants some ssd caching
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• 734[05:21:10] <RoyK> somiaj: it's part of lvm - so I guess newer releases are to come
• 735[05:21:35] <RoyK> actually - there's a manpage for lvmcache on jessie
• 736[05:21:38] <RoyK> so sorry
• 737[05:21:45] <somiaj> RoyK: if you new what upstream version you could compare to to what is in debian
• 738[05:21:59] <somiaj> really there is a binary called 'lvmcache' in jessie?
• 739[05:22:08] <RoyK> man lvmcache
• 740[05:22:16] <somiaj> I don't have lvm
• 741[05:22:29] <RoyK> well, install it and check the manpage
• 742[05:23:04] <somiaj> yea I do see a manpage for lvmcache, but no binary with that name.
• 743[05:23:11] <somiaj> I was just looking for binaries
• 744[05:23:19] <RoyK> it's part of lvm
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• 749[05:26:27] <RoyK> somiaj: and why not lvm?
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• 751[05:26:50] <RoyK> somiaj: I use lvm for everything, unless I'm using zfs
• 752[05:27:13] <somiaj> RoyK: It is a layer I do not need on my data
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• 754[05:27:27] <RoyK> somiaj: heh
• 755[05:27:53] <somiaj> i.e. there is no feature of lvm I would actually need (but I'm just a destkop user)
• 756[05:27:54] <RoyK> somiaj: it's a tiny abstraction layer to help get away with partitions and such
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• 758[05:28:23] <RoyK> somiaj: for desktop, no worries
• 759[05:28:30] <jmcnaught> RoyK: I use lvmcache on my laptop. when i got started there was a boot warning because the tool "cache_check" (in the thin-provisioning-tools package) was missing from the initrd. I can make a paste of my /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/lvm_cache for you if you want
• 760[05:28:38] <somiaj> I have two partions, / and /home
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• 762[05:29:10] <RoyK> somiaj: look into lvm next time
• 763[05:29:12] <somiaj> RoyK: I understand its ussage, I just don't need it. (:
• 764[05:29:21] <RoyK> somiaj: you soon will
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• 768[05:30:43] <RoyK> jmcnaught: perhaps an update-initramfs -u would do?
• 769[05:30:55] <RoyK> jmcnaught: or was it missing even after that?
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• 772[05:33:12] <jmcnaught> RoyK: this is my hook: replaced-url
• 773[05:33:56] <RoyK> ok
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• 775[05:34:21] <RoyK> any numbers of how well lvmcache works? performance?
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• 777[05:35:13] <jmcnaught> not really. it does subjectively speed things up. it also adds some time during boot (that cache_check).
• 778[05:35:29] <RoyK> I'm still on zfs on my home server with some ssd caching
• 779[05:35:59] <RoyK> and wondering if I should ditch that because it's not very flexible
• 780[05:36:42] <RoyK> you can't just expand a VDEV (that is - a raidz2 or so)
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• 782[05:37:59] <RoyK> and while the checksumming is neat, I normally don't need that sort of safety
• 783[05:38:28] <RoyK> give me blockpointer rewrite and I'd move all my systems to zfs tomorrow
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• 785[05:39:19] <RoyK> but even sun^Woracle doesn't talk about that anymore
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• 794[05:43:08] <jmcnaught> RoyK: i've never used ZFS, but I am looking forward to btrfs. Also if you haven't found it yet, the RHEL 7 LVM manual is pretty good for an overview
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• 796[05:44:32] <jmcnaught> i use a large cached volume (hdd and ssd) for a thinpool, and i have several LXC containers in thin volumes. the thin snapshoting code is apparently different from the regular LVM snapshot code (which i find slows things down quite a bit)
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• 852[06:04:22] <cjen2837> anyone know where the openvpn config file is? i looked in /etc/openvpn and nothing there
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• 879[06:29:26] <aleata> unable to resolve host address of domain names
• 880[06:29:32] <aleata> need advice
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• 882[06:30:33] <qmr> search deep within your heart. consider buying a map.
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• 884[06:30:38] <qmr> god dammit
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• 886[06:31:11] <user_____> unable to resolve host address
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• 888[06:31:41] <alaake> when trying to resolve hostnames
• 889[06:31:44] <alaake> need advice
• 890[06:32:19] <somiaj> alaake: check /etc/resolv.conf and make sure you have a valid nameserver in that file
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• 892[06:33:25] <alaake> I have the nameserver set to my gateway
• 893[06:33:45] <somiaj> use 8.8.8.8
• 894[06:33:52] <alaake> trying...
• 895[06:34:00] <somiaj> depending on your network your gateway may not be a nameserver, 8.8.8.8 is googles nameserver
• 896[06:34:26] <alaake> did that no difference
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• 898[06:34:31] <alaake> do i need to reload anything?
• 899[06:34:56] <somiaj> you shouldn't (though if you are using some network managing tool it may overwrite your changes)
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• 901[06:35:19] <somiaj> are you sure you are on the network, can you ping your gateway, can you ping 8.8.8.8
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• 903[06:35:47] <alaake> anything else i can try?
• 904[06:36:04] <somiaj> alaake: so pings are working?
• 905[06:36:31] <alaake> only by ip address
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• 919[06:45:28] <somiaj> alaake: you can use traceroute to see the pings are getting to the address you are pinging
• 920[06:45:41] <somiaj> alaake: you can use dig to query nameservers directly and avoid using resov.conf
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• 925[06:49:07] <alaake> except the problem is that i cannot apply updates or anything because cannot resolve
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• 933[06:52:25] <beatdown> How can I install all of the build dependancies for a certain package?
• 934[06:53:05] <somiaj> beatdown: do you have the deb-src line in your sources.list?
• 935[06:53:06] <beatdown> apt-get source (some option here) package
• 936[06:53:21] <somiaj> beatdown: apt-get build-dep packagename
• 937[06:53:26] <somiaj> you can use either binary or source package names
• 938[06:53:27] <beatdown> Yes, is it apt-get source build-deps or something like that?
• 939[06:53:46] <beatdown> build-dep, ah I was a bit off
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• 941[06:54:44] <RippyDippy> Hey guys, Ip tables is listing nothing for me, what does this mean
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• 943[06:55:18] <somiaj> RippyDippy: by default in debian there are no rules setup. It should show you a bunch of empty chains
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• 945[06:55:51] <RippyDippy> somiaj: Ok then I should have no issue with any vpns getting through my firewall. Thanks!
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• 947[06:56:39] <somiaj> RippyDippy: what do you mean by through your firewall, is something forwarding info though your machine?
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• 955[07:02:46] <daurnimator> hi, how can I file a bug report with debian when I don't have debian installed?
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• 957[07:03:13] <daurnimator> I saw you could send one via email, but I use gmail and can't add the custom "Package" header debian requires
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• 971[07:12:11] <somiaj> daurnimator: bugs.debian.net has instructions for where to send the bug. the custom header is just the first few lines of the email. You can use reportbug to generate teh bug, save the output as a file, and copy/paste that file into gmail
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• 974[07:12:37] <daurnimator> somiaj: I can't install reportbug
• 975[07:12:59] <daurnimator> somiaj: I was trying to send it with my normal mail client; but it doesn't let me add a "Package" header
• 976[07:13:14] <daurnimator> now I'm trying a new command line mail client... but it doesn't seem to let me either
• 977[07:13:23] <daurnimator> I've now spend 30 mins trying to figure out how to report a bug
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• 980[07:13:56] <choice> Good Morning
• 981[07:14:18] <choice> Trying to install Debian 8
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• 983[07:14:31] <choice> It asks me for a "Domain name".
• 984[07:14:39] <choice> What do I put there?
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• 986[07:15:39] <joostvb> choice: "normally" your dhcp-server would've given you that
• 987[07:15:47] <joostvb> do you do dhcp on your network?
• 988[07:15:57] <choice> no idea
• 989[07:15:59] <joostvb> i c
• 990[07:16:05] <joostvb> leave it empty i guess
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• 992[07:16:08] <choice> ok
• 993[07:16:11] <somiaj> daurnimator: the header is just the first few lines of the email. SO just start your email with Packge: name <enter> etc
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• 998[07:18:29] <daurnimator> somiaj: oh. when it said header I thought it meant header.
• 999[07:18:38] <daurnimator> not. "prepend to body"
• 1000[07:19:22] <grepper>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-1-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian stretch/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.78GHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.7GiB, 79.5% free ** Disk: Total: 2.8TiB, 26.6% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet
• 1001[07:19:22] <grepper> ** Uptime: 1d 6h 10m 39s **
• 1002[07:19:29] <grepper> oops
• 1003[07:19:39] <somiaj> daurnimator: header has various meanings and in the end it is just one long file. the bts scripts I belive correctly parse out the stuff if it at the top of the email and not in the offical header
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• 1006[07:20:40] <choice> In the installer, there is no way to set up an encrypted partition without using a LVM?
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• 1008[07:20:51] <daurnimator> btw, I noticed #761281 is done and can be closed
• 1009[07:20:53] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1011[07:21:29] <choice> oh, there seems to be!
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• 1018[07:23:06] <choice> I think this got better since Debian 7!
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• 1023[07:25:25] <anes> I got error in package creation as : dpkg-source: error: source package format '3.0 (quit)' is not supported: Can't locate Dpkg/Source/Package/V3/Quit.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Dpkg::Source::Package::V3::Quit module)
• 1024[07:25:37] <anes> how it can fix advise please
• 1025[07:26:23] <daxcat> did you typo quilt as quit somewhere
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• 1028[07:26:57] <daxcat> possibly debian/source/format
• 1029[07:26:57] <somiaj> anes: what version of debian are you compiling on and where did you get this source package? Do you have quilt installed?
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• 1031[07:27:29] <anes> somia: I am using ubuntu 15.10
• 1032[07:27:43] <somiaj> anes: then you should ask in #ubuntu
• 1033[07:27:49] <anes> somia: I think quilt is not installed
• 1034[07:27:58] <anes> #ubuntu
• 1035[07:28:00] <somiaj> and how to get the appropriate quilte module installed in ubuntu
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• 1038[07:28:20] <daxcat> #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-app-devel, actually. #ubuntu isn't really competent at packaging support
• 1039[07:28:25] <daxcat> i'd check what i suggested first though
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• 1043[07:29:26] <anes> somia: I installed quilt now
• 1044[07:29:48] <daxcat> or you could just ignore both of us that works too
• 1045[07:29:57] <anes> but still that error message
• 1046[07:29:59] <somiaj> anes: daxcat noticed a typo you should check and you should please take your support to a ubuntu channel.
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• 1048[07:30:52] <anes> somia : thanks
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• 1050[07:31:06] <anes> daxcat: Thanks too you
• 1051[07:31:12] <daxcat> you're welcome
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• 1059[07:33:42] <bitch_ass> Hi!
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• 1061[07:33:54] <bitch_ass> What tool can I use to record my desktop session?
• 1062[07:34:00] <bitch_ass> recordmydesktop does not work
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• 1065[07:36:04] <grepper> bitch_ass: replaced-url
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• 1069[07:36:29] <bitch_ass> grepper: I'll look it up
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• 1078[07:39:25] <bitch_ass> grepper: I don't have ffmpeg in my repo though
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• 1080[07:39:32] <darxmurf> hi all
• 1081[07:39:36] <bitch_ass> I only have libav-tools when I apt-cache search ffmpeg
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• 1083[07:40:10] <somiaj> bitch_ass: you'll have to use libav in jessie, and I'm unsure if ffmpeg has been provided in backports
• 1084[07:40:21] <grepper> bitch_ass: its in jessie-backports
• 1085[07:40:38] <grepper> but you could try libav, syntax may be similar
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• 1088[07:41:38] <bitch_ass> grepper: Nah no longer need it :D
• 1089[07:41:48] <bitch_ass> Thanks anyway! Solved my problem already :D
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• 1098[07:46:39] <choice> So in the installer: When I want to create an encrypted LVM, do I first "Configure Encrypted Volumes" or first "Configure the Logical Volume Manager"?
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• 1107[07:48:55] <choice> guess ill first have to set up an encrypted volume
• 1108[07:49:34] <choice> What is a good filesystem for /boot?
• 1109[07:49:57] <somiaj> choice: I'd stick with ext2 or ext4 unless you ahve specific reasons otehrwise
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• 1115[07:52:50] <choice> ok. will use ext2. that stood the test of time.
• 1116[07:53:23] <markybob> choice: that's probably not the best choice but okay
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• 1118[07:53:57] <choice> guess you have to pull ext2 from my cold dead hands some day.
• 1119[07:53:59] <somiaj> choice: unsure if journling is required for /boot or not, but ext4 does have some nice features that ext2 doesn't.
• 1120[07:54:51] <anes> somia: Now I got another error as : replaced-url
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• 1124[07:57:33] <choice> how would ext4 make /boot better?
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• 1126[07:58:09] <pragomer> hi. is this replaced-url
• 1127[07:58:58] <pragomer> I get this exactly every 5 minutes
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• 1129[07:59:25] <anes> my exact error in deb creation is : debian/rules:6: *** missing separator. Stop. dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2 debuild: fatal error at line 1374: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed
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• 1131[07:59:40] <daxcat> pragomer: does the output of 'dmesg' mention CPU overheating?
• 1132[07:59:55] <daxcat> pragomer: because that's what it looks like from that log. in which case yes, you'll want to get that fixed
• 1133[08:00:29] <pragomer> there is "Package temperature over threshold"
• 1134[08:00:34] <somiaj> anes: please ask your questions in ubuntu channels.
• 1135[08:00:47] <anes> somia: ok
• 1136[08:00:58] <pragomer> ups..
• 1137[08:01:21] <pragomer> it's cirrus7 nimbus pc.. it runs since 2 days... and its a little hot.. but...
• 1138[08:01:34] <pragomer> should not lead to cpu overheating I think :-(
• 1139[08:02:13] <pragomer> but thanks for the hint.. this should be the (simple) problem.. overheating.. omg
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• 1150[08:07:57] <kqr> why is it that I can run a command like `scp server:*.c .` and the asterisk does not get expanded in my local shell?
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• 1155[08:09:15] <well_laid_lawn> kqr: the asterick will only be expanded on locally mounted filesytems
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• 1157[08:09:36] <kqr> what is it that decides this? is it hard coded bash behaviour or part of a default config somewhere?
• 1158[08:10:20] <well_laid_lawn> since the server's filesystem isn't monuted locally, how can the local system know what files * means ?
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• 1161[08:10:40] <daxcat> i expect it goes looking for a file that matches server:*.c, doesn't find one, and just passes the string instead
• 1162[08:10:55] <daxcat> i'm likely wrong though because i just made that up
• 1163[08:11:09] <well_laid_lawn> I'm sure you're right
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• 1165[08:11:22] <kqr> well_laid_lawn, well that's why I expect some sort of error, and not it not working
• 1166[08:11:39] <well_laid_lawn> see what daxcat said
• 1167[08:11:44] <kqr> I understand it does some magic, either by trying to look it up and then gives up, or by recognising commands that are remote
• 1168[08:11:52] <kqr> but where is this decided? is it a config thing or a bash thing?
• 1169[08:12:06] <well_laid_lawn> scp doesn't try to expand *
• 1170[08:12:34] <well_laid_lawn> and the local bash can't since the server's filesystem isn't mounted locally
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• 1174[08:13:36] <kqr> yes it appears bash tries to expand the * and if it doesn't match anything it just passes it verbatim... but the question remains whether this is hardcoded bash behaviour or a config thing
• 1175[08:13:52] <well_laid_lawn> it's an scp thing
• 1176[08:14:02] <well_laid_lawn> and the local bash can't since the server's filesystem isn't mounted locally
• 1177[08:14:11] <well_laid_lawn> third time I've said that
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• 1179[08:14:43] <kqr> it's not an scp thing because echo has the same behaviour
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• 1182[08:14:59] <kqr> `echo a*` lists files, while `echo aaaaaaa*` just prints the aaaaaaa* string
• 1183[08:15:03] <well_laid_lawn> because the server's filesystem isn't mounted locally
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• 1185[08:15:40] <kqr> well forget about scp if it's confusing. it was just where I initially discovered that behaviour
• 1186[08:16:35] <well_laid_lawn> with echo, if there are no file matches it prints the string
• 1187[08:16:45] <well_laid_lawn> try echo "a*"
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• 1190[08:17:17] <kqr> no it doesn't "print" the string if there are no file matches
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• 1194[08:17:31] <well_laid_lawn> I worded that badly
• 1195[08:17:43] <kqr> the shell replaces the string with the matching file names, and if there are no matching file names it keeps the string verbatim
• 1196[08:17:54] <kqr> the fact that echo then takes that string and prints it is irrelevant for my question
• 1197[08:18:01] <well_laid_lawn> if bash can't find a file match it passes the string on
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• 1199[08:18:09] <kqr> yup, exactly
• 1200[08:18:21] <well_laid_lawn> that's expected
• 1201[08:18:26] <kqr> and I'm wondering if this is hard-coded bash behaviour or if I can configure it away
• 1202[08:18:33] <daxcat> kqr: looks like there are a couple of relevant bash options for this. see failglob and nullglob on replaced-url
• 1203[08:18:45] <well_laid_lawn> it'll be hardcoded, check in #@bash
• 1204[08:18:48] <daxcat> kqr: you'd set those using shopt -s
• 1205[08:19:00] <well_laid_lawn> there you go
• 1206[08:19:04] <daxcat> kqr: (apologies for the delayed response, took a while to find the right Google search string for it)
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• 1211[08:19:29] <kqr> daxcat, many thanks
• 1212[08:19:36] <kqr> daxcat, I have also tried googling but it was indeed hard to find
• 1213[08:20:29] <well_laid_lawn> using scp in an example confused what you were trying to do
• 1214[08:20:47] <kqr> yeah. I sort of refined the question as I went, sorry!
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• 1219[08:22:35] <well_laid_lawn> all's good ;)
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• 1253[08:34:09] <vallina> Hello! In the debian installer, do I have to choose "Debian desktop environment" AND "MATE"?
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• 1257[08:36:41] <somiaj> vallina: I think in the installer you can only choose one. But once installed you can install the other easy enough.
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• 1259[08:37:03] <somiaj> vallina: oh yes choose them both. the desktop enviroment defaults to gnome unless you specifically choose another
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• 1261[08:37:23] <vallina> somiaj: "Debian desktop environment" looks different then the others. almost like a headline.
• 1262[08:37:40] <vallina> I only want Mate
• 1263[08:37:59] <somiaj> vallina: yea you need to select both.
• 1264[08:38:17] <vallina> this is how it looks like: replaced-url
• 1265[08:38:44] <heya> vallina, What are you trying to install?
• 1266[08:38:52] <vallina> heya: debian with mate
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• 1268[08:39:16] <vallina> by the way, what is "print server"?
• 1269[08:39:24] <heya> vallina, then select Mate
• 1270[08:39:25] <heya> :D
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• 1272[08:39:41] <heya> Print server is your CUPS stuff
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• 1275[08:40:06] <vallina> heya: ok, [*] Mate. But what about "Debian desktop environment"? Did you look at the screenshot?
• 1276[08:40:19] <vallina> Do I need CUPS to print?
• 1277[08:40:26] <heya> vallina, don't select, it should install by itselff
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• 1279[08:40:47] <vallina> hmm... somiaj said otherwise
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• 1282[08:41:57] <vallina> still not sure about these 3: "Debian desktop environment", "print server" and "standard system utilities"
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• 1285[08:42:45] <heya> vallina, just select Mate and Standard as of now, also SSH if its VPS install
• 1286[08:42:50] <heya> and go go go
• 1287[08:42:50] <heya> :D
• 1288[08:42:53] <r6ku> vallina: do what somiaj said
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• 1290[08:44:14] <somiaj> well the debian desktop should already be selected (at least it was last I did it) so all you have to do is select mate (but I think you don't want to unselect desktop enviorment)
• 1291[08:44:40] <heya> somiaj, but debian should auto-select it if required?
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• 1294[08:45:08] <r6ku> okay, the DE task metapackages point to task-desktop(Debian desktop environment), so I can only assume that the first option is supposed to be idiot proofed
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• 1297[08:45:33] <heya> r6ku, but then if that is the case, it should auto install them
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• 1299[08:45:36] <heya> I believe so
• 1300[08:45:48] <somiaj> heya: yea most likely, I was just saying I think both need to be selected.
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• 1303[08:46:33] <heya> I don't still follow you :D
• 1304[08:46:44] <vallina> Now i still dont know if i should select "Debian desktop environment" or not.
• 1305[08:46:51] <r6ku> might as well choose both, there's no harm in that
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• 1308[08:47:18] <vallina> r6ku: i fear it will install packages that are not needed
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• 1310[08:47:57] <heya> vallina, just select Mate and Standard
• 1311[08:47:57] <heya> :D
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• 1313[08:48:06] <heya> if it requires something else it should install it
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• 1315[08:48:34] <vallina> ok, will deselect "Debian desktop environment"
• 1316[08:48:45] <r6ku> there's no difference between picking one or both
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• 1318[08:49:37] <r6ku> the Mate option still depends on task-desktop, which is what the Debian desktop environment option installs, so you get the same packages either way
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• 1325[08:52:18] <r6ku> ffs who designed this crap?
• 1326[08:53:20] <vallina> so how about "print server"?
• 1327[08:53:42] <r6ku> vallina: it installs stuff you need for printing, drivers etc.
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• 1332[08:55:47] <vallina> ok. "server sounds" like it is used to make my machine print for other servers.
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• 1334[08:56:21] <vallina> and how about "standard system utilities"?
• 1335[08:56:53] <heya> vandox, Standard + print + mate + SSH (if its VM in some cloud)
• 1336[08:56:56] <heya> do it
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• 1338[08:57:59] <vallina> vandox?
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• 1340[08:58:43] <r6ku> vallina: a bunch of useful stuff you can't live without
• 1341[08:58:56] <vallina> ok...
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• 1350[09:01:39] <vallina> This debian installer with wifi included is such a *huge* step forward.
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• 1352[09:01:57] <vallina> Last time I had to go get a fucking ethernet cable to install Debian.
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• 1354[09:03:05] <vallina> Now it is just happily chugging away downloading packages.
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• 1431[09:31:24] <vallina> rebooting ... exited ...
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• 1435[09:32:03] <vallina> it works! marvelous!
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• 1438[09:33:34] <vallina> huargh! i accidentally stepped into the internet without noscript installed and it threw a billion animated tentacles at me!
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• 1447[09:38:20] <humbot> o_O
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• 1449[09:38:33] <metachr0n> vallina: you should be more careful which porn sites you visit XD
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• 1453[09:39:27] <vallina> yeah. it was tech porn at replaced-url
• 1454[09:39:38] <metachr0n> vallina: XD
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• 1456[09:40:00] <vallina> i never knew a simple webpage could make a dual core processor go chuggcrchhppfffiii!!!!
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• 1461[09:40:49] <markvandenborre> hi! I am trying to fill out the european consumer centre complaint form pdf using FOSS software
• 1462[09:40:51] <vallina> and all those colors.. jumping at me in an aggressive dance. trying to grab me by the throat and struggle me to death!
• 1463[09:41:07] <metachr0n> vallina: btw ... i have stopped using noscript because the whole bought by an undisclosed buyer thing ... and i really like ublock origin and umatrix
• 1464[09:41:09] <vallina> markvandenborre: what is your complaint?
• 1465[09:41:11] <markvandenborre> evince is said to be able to fill out forms
• 1466[09:41:26] <pragomer_1> any hints for the work with CONKY ? want to add the output of "sensors" (that shows me the temperature of my 4 cores)
• 1467[09:41:26] <markvandenborre> vallina: something unrelated to debian
• 1468[09:41:46] <vallina> metachr0n: isnt mozilla checking everything that goes on addons.mozilla.org?
• 1469[09:42:02] <vallina> markvandenborre: give me the url. i want to complain about you thinking anything is unrelated to debian.
• 1470[09:42:04] <markvandenborre> vallina: it seems that either there is some kind of user agent checking in the pdf form
• 1471[09:42:14] <markvandenborre> :-)
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• 1473[09:42:52] <vallina> "Dear Europe, today I met a guy called marvanderborre and I have some things to say about him..."
• 1474[09:43:19] <Elirips> Hello. I have the funny assignment that I "should rename 'root' to 'Administrator'". Can this ever work out well?
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• 1477[09:43:46] <Elirips> Or should I just add a user 'Administrator' and set his default group to 'root'?
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• 1481[09:44:43] <vallina> Call him Ädministratöör!
• 1482[09:44:55] <markvandenborre> vallina: replaced-url
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• 1487[09:46:08] <vallina> markvandenborre: try saving it and opening with a pdf viewer that supports forms.
• 1488[09:46:09] <somiaj> Elirips: you can change the name, but you might break things. replaced-url
• 1489[09:46:20] <vallina> markvandenborre: at least that would be my approach.
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• 1491[09:47:11] <markvandenborre> vallina: yup, exactly what I did (evince claims to support this)
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• 1493[09:48:43] <markvandenborre> stuff like replaced-url
• 1494[09:48:56] <markvandenborre> can be filled out properly
• 1495[09:49:09] <vallina> markvandenborre: guess you need to find a form to complain about the form then.
• 1496[09:49:50] <markvandenborre> :-)
• 1497[09:50:04] <vallina> or use that adobe viewer thing in a vm
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• 1499[09:50:38] <vallina> hello, i am writing from within a vm to complain about the form that brought me here!
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• 1501[09:50:56] <markvandenborre> vallina: don't worry, I know how to walk around this bug...
• 1502[09:51:09] <markvandenborre> I'm mostly trying to confirm I'm not missing anything obvious
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• 1504[09:51:28] <vallina> you can find me at the seventh hill behind tor. im the guy with a beard, listening to black flag.
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• 1506[09:52:19] <vallina> my email is ifSpamThenFromEurope.henryRollins@mailinator.com
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• 1509[09:52:55] <markvandenborre> and checking duplicates before filing an evince bug about this
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• 1511[09:53:00] <markvandenborre> so that at least people know
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• 1513[09:53:09] <vallina> good idea
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• 1517[09:53:38] <vallina> i recently listened to henry rollins audio book "get in the van". pretty awesome.
• 1518[09:53:44] <vallina> i wonder if there is more stuff like that out there.
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• 1521[09:55:00] <somiaj> vallina: this is a support channel. Try to keep off-topic converastions to a minimum.
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• 1523[09:55:52] <vallina> ok
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• 1526[09:56:02] <vallina> Where can I set it so that I dont have to log in when Mate starts?
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• 1532[09:59:17] <somiaj> vallina: do you know what display manager mate uses?
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• 1534[09:59:35] <vallina> somiaj: gnome?
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• 1536[09:59:43] <vallina> well, i dont know
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• 1538[10:00:10] <vallina> i thought Mate *is* the display manager.
• 1539[10:00:11] <somiaj> vallina: dpkg -l | grep -i display
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• 1542[10:00:36] <somiaj> vallina: no mate is the desktop enviroment. The display manager is the graphical login that you see when you boot. This is what you can configure for auto login.
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• 1544[10:01:25] <vallina> somiaj: that command outputs the whole telephone book of planet mars or something.
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• 1546[10:01:53] <kraehe> moin - i try to attach an eSATA box to my wheezy - but it does not get detected (Debian 3.2.68-1+deb7u3)
• 1547[10:02:16] <vallina> somiaj: lightgdm shows up a couple of times
• 1548[10:02:22] <vallina> lightdm
• 1549[10:02:31] <somiaj> vallina: okay, yea it looks like it is lightdm, one second
• 1550[10:02:35] <vallina> lightdm-gtk-greater
• 1551[10:02:39] <vallina> lightdm-gtk-greeter
• 1552[10:02:44] <kraehe> any idea - neither rescan-scsi-bus nor dmesg or udevadm monitor show anything, when I turn it on/off
• 1553[10:03:15] <towo^work> kraehe, and ahci is enabled for that esata port?
• 1554[10:03:16] <somiaj> vallina: replaced-url
• 1555[10:03:26] <vallina> the internet brings up a bunch of ideas how to put stuff into /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf to enable autologin.
• 1556[10:03:43] <vallina> somiaj: ok, thanks
• 1557[10:03:51] <kraehe> towo^work, lspci | fgrep -i sata
• 1558[10:03:51] <kraehe> 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 40) <- looks like no
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• 1560[10:03:57] <somiaj> that link gives you the two lines you need to uncoomont (remove the #) and provide it the username you want
• 1561[10:04:16] <kraehe> twisted`, how to enable ahci for that?
• 1562[10:04:23] <towo^work> kraehe, then it can't work
• 1563[10:04:25] <kraehe> *oups* wrong ping
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• 1565[10:04:29] <towo^work> kraehe, in your bios
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• 1567[10:04:40] <TomTomTosch> as a side note, if you want to know which dm is being used you can just cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
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• 1570[10:05:01] <kraehe> so I need to reboot *thanks*, towo^work - i'll back if it works
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• 1584[10:15:43] <kephra> towo^work, 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40) <- but still no esata
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• 1591[10:19:12] <kephra> replaced-url
• 1592[10:19:20] <loop01> hi
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• 1594[10:19:53] <loop01> I'm trying to install torque for stable, but it is not available for some reason. It is available for sid and the old stable, though... why is this?
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• 1597[10:21:06] <themill> loop01: the torque packages weren't suitable for release at the time
• 1598[10:22:18] <loop01> I have tried to compile the source but it doesn't compile, full stop :(
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• 1602[10:23:19] <themill> backporting the sid package is alleged to work; /msg dpkg ssb
• 1603[10:23:31] <loop01> thank you
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• 1606[10:23:46] <loop01> we are setting up a cluster using Debian and this is kind of a deal breaker for us
• 1607[10:23:56] <loop01> we decided for Debian because we didn't want to deal with compiling stuff...
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• 1611[10:24:40] * kephra gave up - using usb-3 instead of esata now
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• 1615[10:26:23] <loop01> themill: I tried looking for backports and I didn't find anything
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• 1618[10:26:40] <themill> you'd be making your own for this package
• 1619[10:26:43] <loop01> I will try the second thing that the dkpg bot suggested, though... thank you for your help! :)
• 1620[10:26:53] <loop01> yeah, I will try that
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• 1622[10:28:22] <themill> it builds fine here
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• 1625[10:29:58] <loop01> themill: are you building fom Debian's sources or the ones downloaded from the official website?
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• 1629[10:30:30] <themill> the package in sid; but you should read through #767411
• 1630[10:30:31] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1632[10:31:14] <loop01> thank you
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• 1634[10:31:37] <venkat_330> Hi, I have connected an LVDS and HDMI display in my system and xrandr i am able to see the connected display details as expected. I basically want an C api get number of connected monitors. Tried (replaced-url
• 1635[10:32:01] <themill> loop01: You might like to instead look at slurm-wlm which is in jessie
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• 1637[10:32:22] <themill> I don't think torque has much of a future as free software from what I read in that bug log
• 1638[10:32:34] <loop01> yeah, I wanted to use slurm but I have been tasked with installing torque
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• 1640[10:33:23] <loop01> I was aware of some licensing issues but I didn't know that it had gone so bad...
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• 1652[10:34:16] <Elirips> somiaj: thanks for the link.
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• 1661[10:40:10] <loop01> brb
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• 1700[10:57:22] <sveta> hi! i installed debian kde live iso. when i try to log in it hangs for more than 5 minutes. how do i troubleshoot this please?
• 1701[10:57:35] <sveta> i then installed xfce4 and it logs in just fine.
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• 1704[10:58:26] <sveta> what it does is it shows the few large kde style icons (hdd, sttings, browser, display) and then does nothing and sits there for quite a while. the cursor is visible and i can move it.
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• 1725[11:07:29] <sveta> i think it's eu morning. anyone please? :-)
• 1726[11:07:57] <jelly> sveta: yes, it is EU morning. You're welcome.
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• 1730[11:09:33] <jelly> sveta: sounds like a hang during kde session initialization. Try creating a new, fresh user and see if it happens for them as well.
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• 1733[11:10:19] <sveta> it is a new fresh user. the same happens when i try to log in as root.
• 1734[11:11:02] <sveta> oh, and it's debian jessie. as published at the live iso entry on the debian site. i downloaded it just yesterday.
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• 1737[11:13:26] <jelly> sveta: hm, what happens if you install using the normal installer image?
• 1738[11:13:51] <sveta> i don't know. i can only try it in about 24 hours. because the internet at home is bad.
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• 1743[11:15:42] <sveta> i'm going 'apt upgrade' and then i'll purge plasma-desktop and its things and install again.
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• 1747[11:16:27] <radicate> How can I make a file that'll be editable by my user without using sudo all the time?
• 1748[11:16:39] <jelly> sveta: well, if you log in at text console you'll be able to see what kde has been doing in user's ~/.xsession-errors but knowing what's relevant there and what's normal crap is hard
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• 1750[11:17:34] <jelly> radicate: change the permissions to make it writable by your user or your group
• 1751[11:17:55] <radicate> jelly: Isn't chown nobody:nobody enough?
• 1752[11:18:00] <jelly> or change the ownership completely.
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• 1754[11:18:27] <radicate> I tried, it doesn't seem to matter - I keep being told "Operation not permitted"
• 1755[11:18:27] <jelly> radicate: you really shouldn't be editing anything as user nobody
• 1756[11:18:35] <jelly> !goal
• 1757[11:18:36] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
• 1758[11:19:09] <heya> if I do debian netinstall of jessie
• 1759[11:19:16] <heya> which kernel should I install?
• 1760[11:19:20] <jelly> radicate: which debian release is this? What's the full path to the file?
• 1761[11:19:22] <sveta> jelly, i'll install pastebinit in a few minutes after the upgrade, but it looks like the meaningful part to me is 'qdbus connection: session d-bus connection created before qcoreapplication. application may misbehave'
• 1762[11:19:33] * sveta looks at 270kB/s
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• 1764[11:19:38] <jelly> sveta: nah, that's normal crap :-|
• 1765[11:19:39] <radicate> Alright, I'm trying to edit files under a specific folder with a simple text editor, and I want to be able to change their permissions with chmod
• 1766[11:19:45] <radicate> I don't want to use sudo at all
• 1767[11:19:56] <jelly> radicate: which specific folder?
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• 1769[11:20:13] <radicate> Just a folder that contains php files, it's a website I'm developing
• 1770[11:20:16] <jelly> radicate: which debian release is this?
• 1771[11:20:20] <radicate> centos 7
• 1772[11:20:26] <sveta> :o
• 1773[11:20:37] <radicate> Haha
• 1774[11:20:38] <jelly> radicate: ask in #centos or ##linux, then
• 1775[11:20:54] <altyr> heya: any reason not to use the default one?
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• 1777[11:21:02] <radicate> Does it matter though? I didn't think permissions are handled differently
• 1778[11:21:52] <jelly> it matters, for a number of reasons that may not be immediately obvious
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• 1780[11:21:57] <sveta> to ##linux,it probably does not matter ;-)
• 1781[11:22:09] <mms_> wheezy to jessie upgraded. jessie boot stuck at start portmap daemon. have tried in wheezy to install b43 firmware and boot again to new kernel but same.
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• 1783[11:22:21] <radicate> Lol sure then, thanks anyway I suppose.
• 1784[11:22:37] <radicate> If you have any tips regarding the case I'd love to hear, I'll head over to ##linux though
• 1785[11:22:52] <sveta> (sort of thanks though, i might learn today what 'nobody' group stands within a few minutes)
• 1786[11:22:55] <sveta> good luck
• 1787[11:22:56] <rozie> mms_: try disabling portmap
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• 1789[11:23:23] <radicate> Haha thanks.
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• 1811[11:31:14] <bumbar_> how can i run cronjob under locked (chage -E 0) account?
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• 1819[11:39:22] <mms_> rozie: done that now its still blank/black screen and now its stuck at console-scree.sh[384]: setterm: $TERM is not defined
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• 1826[11:45:36] <sveta> jelly: paste.debian.net/413547
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• 1828[11:47:02] <sveta> and as root, paste.debian.net/413548 is journalctl
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• 1867[12:10:40] <Scuttle> anyone familiar with preseeding using a Microosft DHCP-server to announce the url to the preseed-conf?
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• 1875[12:13:00] <sveta> oh, interesting, disabling compositing worked .. hmm
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• 1897[12:21:18] <JZA> I am having issues trying to runa php script in cronjob, I have tried lynx and php-cli but no result, I even chmod +x and put the direct path on the cronjob
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• 1899[12:21:35] <JZA> this is what I have, crontab -e and edit 0/3 * * * * lynx -dump replaced-url
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• 1902[12:21:51] <JZA> crontab -e and edit 0/3 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/replaced-url
• 1903[12:22:01] <Scuttle> what errors do you get?
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• 1905[12:22:13] <JZA> none, since is on cron, I just dont get the expected output
• 1906[12:22:28] <JZA> the script is supposed to download a json file and put it in the current folder
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• 1908[12:22:46] <JZA> I have checkout the filestamp and is not moving so it means the script is not being executed.
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• 1910[12:23:00] <JZA> file timestamp
• 1911[12:23:28] <JZA> if I do php myscript.php then the files are updated correctly
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• 1913[12:23:43] <Scuttle> cron throws errormessages to the mail of the user who runs the script
• 1914[12:23:45] <themill> when do you want the job to run?
• 1915[12:23:50] <Scuttle> nothing there?
• 1916[12:23:59] <JZA> well I am testing so every 3 minutes
• 1917[12:24:05] <JZA> once I have it working it would be every hour.
• 1918[12:24:32] <JZA> Scuttle: I dont get any mail, any other place?
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• 1920[12:24:51] <themill> 0/3 should be */3
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• 1922[12:25:30] <JZA> right thats what I have
• 1923[12:26:24] <JZA> ok tail /var/log/syslog I have: Mar 9 11:21:01 dsiav-nlqr /USR/SBIN/CRON[1250]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/php /var/replaced-url
• 1924[12:26:27] <JZA> Mar 9 11:21:52 dsiav-nlqr /USR/SBIN/CRON[1249]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
• 1925[12:26:52] <Scuttle> ah
• 1926[12:26:55] <JZA> so seems to be working except is not working as expected.
• 1927[12:27:00] <Scuttle> well...that discarded output would be nice :)
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• 1930[12:27:22] <JZA> anywhere else I can find that output?
• 1931[12:27:45] <Scuttle> JZA: add "2> /tmp/error.txt" to your commandline
• 1932[12:27:55] <Scuttle> then check that file after a run
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• 1936[12:28:36] <JZA> Scuttle: you mean the crontab rule?
• 1937[12:28:42] <Scuttle> right
• 1938[12:29:01] <Scuttle> like "/usr/bin/php /var/replaced-url
• 1939[12:29:12] <JZA> good
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• 1943[12:33:01] <JZA> ok I see, it cant find the file (which is odd since is trying to dump it)
• 1944[12:33:36] <JZA> file_put_contents(data/MTY.json): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/replaced-url
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• 1947[12:34:27] <Scuttle> are you using an absolute path on the php-script to tell it where to output?
• 1948[12:34:57] <JZA> no, relative, I am testing with absolute
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• 1951[12:37:25] <JZA> great is working now
• 1952[12:37:35] <Scuttle> there ya go :)
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• 1955[12:39:59] <JZA> thanks
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• 2047[13:17:40] <stangeland> I have a machine running RAID0 on 4 1TB SSD's. That should be a pretty fast writespeed. When i do: dd if=/dev/zero of=./myout2.bin bs=20M count=1000 i get 370MB/s. Why is it so slow? Should it not be more than 1GB/s ? Is it because of /dev/zero is slow?
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• 2061[13:21:31] <Arr0way> Hey guys, Need a solution for email notifications on pending security patches on debian? Note i only want notifications, and i only want security updates :)
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• 2066[13:21:57] <themill> Arr0way: cron-apt
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• 2068[13:22:20] <Arr0way> themill, will it notify only and only notify about security updates ?
• 2069[13:22:41] <themill> Arr0way: what release are you using?
• 2070[13:22:49] <Arr0way> 8
• 2071[13:22:54] <hanshenrik> apt-get install phpmyadmin; > apache2 apache2-bin apache2-data apache2-utils dbconfig-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-jquery libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore liblua5.1-0 libmcrypt4 libonig2 php-gettext
• 2072[13:22:54] <hanshenrik> php5-cli php5-common php5-json php5-mcrypt php5-mysql
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• 2074[13:23:02] <themill> Arr0way: that's all stable releases get
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• 2077[13:23:18] <Arr0way> what do you mean by that ?
• 2078[13:23:23] <Arr0way> oh i see
• 2079[13:23:30] <hanshenrik> apt-get install --no-install-recommends phpmyadmin; > apache2 apache2-bin apache2-data apache2-utils dbconfig-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-jquery libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore liblua5.1-0 libmcrypt4 libonig2 php-gettext
• 2080[13:23:30] <hanshenrik> php5-cli php5-common php5-json php5-mcrypt php5-mysql
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• 2082[13:23:51] <Arr0way> so it just uses the sources.list for updates
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• 2089[13:24:38] <hanshenrik> ... why the hell does it "depend" on apache, when it can be used just as well with nginx/php-fpm (like im using), or lighthttpd, or a bunch of others
• 2090[13:24:50] <themill> hanshenrik: it doesn't
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• 2092[13:25:21] <hanshenrik> themill, then why does it want to install apache when i already have nginx and do --no-install-recommends ?
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• 2094[13:25:33] <themill> hanshenrik: you might like to look at "aptitude why phpmyadmin apache2"
• 2095[13:26:00] <hanshenrik> phpmyadmin Depends libapache2-mod-php5
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• 2103[13:26:56] <hanshenrik> it shouldn't have to depend on libapache-anything, php-fpm works just find
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• 2165[13:27:04] <hanshenrik> fine*
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• 2167[13:27:05] <TomTomTosch> you can install php5-cgi or something else instead.
• 2168[13:27:06] <themill> hanshenrik: which release of debian is this?
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• 2180[13:27:15] <hanshenrik> themill, 8
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• 2187[13:27:27] <themill> hanshenrik: that's not the output from that command
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• 2205[13:28:07] <hanshenrik> oh crap
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• 2208[13:28:10] <hanshenrik> you're right
• 2209[13:28:11] <alive> hanshenrik: If you don't mind, there's an alternative to phpmyadmin called adminer
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• 2212[13:28:14] <hanshenrik> p phpmyadmin Depends libapache2-mod-php5 | libapache2-mod-php5filter | php5-cgi | php5-fpm | php5
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• 2216[13:28:25] <themill> indeed
• 2217[13:28:26] <hanshenrik> that sounds better
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• 2221[13:28:41] <hanshenrik> i just have php7.0-fpm
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• 2226[13:28:48] <themill> that's not in debian
• 2227[13:29:03] <hanshenrik> replaced-url
• 2228[13:29:05] <hanshenrik> yes it is
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• 2230[13:29:19] <themill> ,v php7.0-fpm --release jessie
• 2231[13:29:20] <judd> No package named 'php7.0-fpm' was found in jessie/amd64.
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• 2235[13:29:43] <themill> If you want packages from sid, you get to keep all the pieces.
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• 2238[13:29:58] <alive> hanshenrik: adminer is much more pleasant to work with, IMO. Light-weight, easier installation, etc.
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• 2242[13:31:10] <hanshenrik> alive, ill check it out
• 2243[13:31:15] <jelly> ,v adminer
• 2244[13:31:16] <judd> Package: adminer on amd64 -- jessie: 3.3.3-1; wheezy: 3.3.3-1; sid: 4.2.1-1
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• 2266[13:38:46] <pragomer_1> hi. I have a textfile that contains thing like c: \users\username\documents\mydocument.doc I want to seperate only the filenames.. so.. cut at the LAST backslash.. how can I do this?
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• 2271[13:39:40] <Brigo> pragomer_1, check basename
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• 2274[13:40:01] <jelly> pragomer_1: lots of ways. You could pipe the file to: awk -F'\\' '{print $NF}'
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• 2277[13:40:44] <jelly> or use sed. or cut.
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• 2279[13:41:19] <jelly> Brigo: basename from GNU coreutils doesn't know about backslashes, or does it?
• 2280[13:41:29] <pragomer_1> awk -F'\\' '{print $NF}'
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• 2285[13:41:48] <pragomer_1> this is cool... did work.. I am going to study these parameters. thank you so much
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• 2287[13:42:37] <jelly> pragomer_1: try using $1 or $2 or $3 instead of $NF, then read about NF in the manual
• 2288[13:42:57] <jelly> basically $NF is "last field"
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• 2293[13:45:09] <pragomer_1> jelly: oh cool... I hoped something like "last field" would exist :-) :-)
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• 2335[14:06:51] <signsoflife> Hi, I installed debian with kde and do not have audio. I can see that my soundcard is recognized, maudiophile 24/96 ice1712multi, but get no sound
• 2336[14:07:08] <signsoflife> Any suggestions?
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• 2340[14:09:08] <Brigo> signsoflife, check the mixer for mutted channels
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• 2343[14:09:48] <signsoflife> Brigo, All level are up
• 2344[14:09:51] <folivora> Hi, I am looking to upgrade old squeeze dns-server to jessie. Could someone point me some good documentation where I could see that is there something on bind9 which will break when upgrading to 9.7.3 -> 9.9.5 ?
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• 2357[14:13:25] <signsoflife> maybe there is a way to install alsamixer?
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• 2367[14:15:01] <Brigo> signsoflife, install alsa-utils
• 2368[14:15:29] <Brigo> signsoflife, try this: replaced-url
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• 2371[14:16:01] <markybob> signsoflife: if on jessie you should probably install/use pavucontrol
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• 2373[14:16:18] <Brigo> folivora, you have to upgrade first to wheezy, squeezy --> wheezy --> jessie. Check the release notes of each version.
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• 2388[14:22:42] <folivora> Brigo: yes I know... What is best place to look for release notes ?
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• 2393[14:25:28] <markybob> folivora: replaced-url
• 2394[14:25:40] <signsoflife> replaced-url
• 2395[14:25:55] <signsoflife> How do I get the computer to use the maudio card?
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• 2401[14:28:07] <jelly> folivora: /msg dpkg wheezy release notes, /msg dpkg jessie release notes
• 2402[14:28:25] * jelly so slow
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• 2404[14:28:37] <markybob> indeed :P
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• 2406[14:29:26] <folivora> Thanks
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• 2409[14:30:31] <signsoflife> So my audio card is detected, I am a member of 'audio'
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• 2411[14:31:18] <markybob> signsoflife: did you log off and back in?
• 2412[14:32:04] <signsoflife> markybob, Okay, I'll try that
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• 2423[14:34:55] <SirLagz> I'm trying to install Debian via net install, but mounting the root fs on /target fails with 'invalid argument'...any ideas as to why it might say invalid argument?
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• 2425[14:35:28] <folivora> Thanks once more, no information about bind9 packages in wheezy/jessie release notes. Should be safe to upgrade then ...
• 2426[14:35:46] <fireba11> SirLagz: it fails in the installer, or it installes and fails to mount on next boot?
• 2427[14:35:50] <markybob> folivora: i use bind and didn't have any issues. you should be fine
• 2428[14:35:53] <SirLagz> fireba11: in the installer
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• 2431[14:36:58] <signsoflife> No luck, still no audio
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• 2438[14:37:50] <signsoflife> Nothing is muted
• 2439[14:37:56] <signsoflife> Levels are up
• 2440[14:37:56] <folivora> markybob: thanks. Should be safe...
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• 2445[14:38:35] <ACKNAK> Hello! Is it possible to choose driver priority in xorg nowdays? O_o
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• 2452[14:41:50] <SirLagz> fireba11: it works fine on the full iso, just not the debian net install for some reason =/
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• 2456[14:42:51] <fireba11> SirLagz: it's been a few bugfix versions since i last use the netinstall, never had that problem
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• 2458[14:43:18] <themill> SirLagz: which image and how are you copying it to the device?
• 2459[14:43:45] <SirLagz> themill: when you say which image, do you mean which netinstall image that I used?
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• 2462[14:44:02] <themill> yes
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• 2464[14:44:11] <jdavila> stangeland, Some times when you do a SSD raid it lose performance.
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• 2467[14:45:01] <SirLagz> themill: seems like it might be a bit old...april 2015. maybe I should update that lol
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• 2472[14:46:22] <signsoflife> I have a card 0, card 1 and card 2---could that be the issue? I want card 2 to be the default audio playback
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• 2474[14:46:53] <SirLagz> themill: I'll try the latest netboot.tar.gz file
• 2475[14:47:02] <SirLagz> I thought it was more up to date than that
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• 2480[14:48:53] <Quatroking> ˙͜>˙
• 2481[14:49:07] <Brigo> signsoflife, it could be, try amixer -c 2 or -c M2496
• 2482[14:49:20] <SirLagz> themill: seems I'm just dumb and I should have updated. Thanks!
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• 2488[14:50:13] <signsoflife> Brigo, replaced-url
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• 2493[14:52:40] <signsoflife> On other distros I used to just do alsamixer and pump up the volume
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• 2495[14:52:52] <signsoflife> not so now I guess
• 2496[14:53:15] <Brigo> signsoflife, replaced-url
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• 2523[15:01:09] <signsoflife> hrm, i think there is a real issue here
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• 2530[15:02:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi
• 2531[15:02:42] <signsoflife> I get access denied and connection refused
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• 2535[15:04:36] <Brigo> signsoflife, as root?
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• 2542[15:07:11] <signsoflife> Brigo, yep
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• 2552[15:10:55] <signsoflife> heh, I think i broke my debian install
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• 2564[15:14:13] <Brigo> signsoflife, how so?
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• 2568[15:14:29] <bitch_ass> Hi
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• 2570[15:14:42] <bitch_ass> Why does it take so long for Nautilus to pop up after boot?
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• 2573[15:15:56] <signsoflife> Brigo, I mucked around with audio too much
• 2574[15:16:10] <signsoflife> Now I really have issues with the drivers
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• 2584[15:17:57] <signsoflife> Don't know what to do
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• 2586[15:18:59] <Brigo> signsoflife, paste those errors.
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• 2589[15:19:52] <signsoflife> replaced-url
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• 2591[15:20:21] <signsoflife> Audio output failed:
• 2592[15:20:22] <signsoflife> The audio device "default" could not be used:
• 2593[15:20:22] <signsoflife> No such file or directory.
• 2594[15:20:33] <signsoflife> That is when i use vlc to play a file now
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• 2606[15:26:08] <signsoflife> Maybe pulseaudio is the culprit?
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• 2609[15:26:26] <signsoflife> Perhaps if I purge it and just have alsa instead
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• 2620[15:33:03] <signsoflife> Anyone know any good tools to get audio fired up on a 'puter?
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• 2626[15:34:02] <awal1> Any package similar to apt-listbugs/reportbug designed especially for SBT?
• 2627[15:34:50] <blind> signsoflife: are you in the audio group? "PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access denied" this makes me feel like no
• 2628[15:35:22] <signsoflife> blind, I am indeed in the audio group
• 2629[15:35:55] <jelly> awal1: what is SBT?
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• 2634[15:37:04] <awal1> jelly: debian "security bug tracker" (replaced-url
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• 2638[15:38:07] <jelly> awal1: there's debsecan
• 2639[15:38:14] <Brigo> signsoflife, did you reloging since then?
• 2640[15:38:23] <signsoflife> Brigo, Yep
• 2641[15:38:27] <Brigo> replaced-url
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• 2643[15:39:04] <jelly> dpkg, sbt is <reply>see tracker of doom
• 2644[15:39:05] <dpkg> okay, jelly
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• 2654[15:40:18] <Brigo> signsoflife, what's the output of ls -l /dev/snd
• 2655[15:40:42] <awal1> jelly, oh, ok. debsecan is installed yet here, I just forgot it, long time haven't used it. Thats what I was looking for, yes. thanks ;)
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• 2660[15:42:24] <signsoflife> Brigo, replaced-url
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• 2667[15:44:54] <Brigo> signsoflife, that's fine. If your user is in the audio group, i can't see why your user can't access those devices.
• 2668[15:45:35] <signsoflife> Brigo, okay, thanks. I guess I'm just sol
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• 2707[15:57:34] <Kyoshiro> hi, since I upgraded to jessie, my server (old) is sometimes unable to boot, and the debug-shell is unresponsive (I get a shell but no command get through), and logging to journald does not get written on /var/log/journal. how can I debug this please ?
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• 2718[16:01:13] <nilekada> Where can I find touchpad settings? I'm using Debian 7 KDE
• 2719[16:01:41] <mtn> nilekada: system settings and it is searchable, too
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• 2722[16:03:21] <nilekada> Alright. Let me check again. I didn't seem to see it the first time
• 2723[16:03:22] <cra1g321> nilekada if you can't find it then install kde-config-touchpad
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• 2747[16:12:27] <Brigo> Kyoshiro, did you enable the debug-shell?
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• 2750[16:13:17] <awal1> nilekeda, also you can use 'synclient' utility if you prefer cli
• 2751[16:13:22] <Brigo> for /var/log/journal to be written you need to active persitence
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• 2754[16:13:56] <Brigo> Kyoshiro, it is in /usr/share/doc/systemd.
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• 2757[16:15:32] <nilekada> cra1g321: no luck on the installation bit.
• 2758[16:15:42] <nilekada> mtn: Haven't been able to find it
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• 2760[16:15:57] <Kyoshiro> yeah I enabled it
• 2761[16:16:41] <Kyoshiro> it drops me to a shell but whenever server boot hangs, debug shell is unresponsive
• 2762[16:16:48] <Kyoshiro> I can enter commands but they never get executed
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• 2764[16:16:56] <mtn> nilekada: maybe this will help: replaced-url
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• 2769[16:17:48] <cra1g321> if you cant install that package then maybe you've got more than one issue :/
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• 2772[16:18:55] <awal1> nilekada, 'synclient' is easy to use, try it
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• 2778[16:20:42] <mitzelflick> if I run icewm, what gui wireless client can I use?
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• 2781[16:21:27] <awal1> wicd ?
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• 2784[16:22:04] <kline> does anyone know if the cron daemon that comes with jessie 8.3 supports the @reboot syntax? I think it's vixie cron but I can't find a --version flag in the man page for either cron nor crontab
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• 2791[16:24:48] <somiaj> kline: afiak it does, I don't see why it would not. Debian uses vixie cron according to the man page
• 2792[16:24:51] <somiaj> ,v cron
• 2793[16:24:52] <judd> Package: cron on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.0pl1-116; wheezy: 3.0pl1-124; jessie: 3.0pl1-127+deb8u1; stretch: 3.0pl1-128; sid: 3.0pl1-128
• 2794[16:25:16] <kline> thanks
• 2795[16:25:41] <kline> im going to roll with it, it's actually just to reload the iptables rules on boot, but obviously i dont fancy testing just now
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• 2798[16:26:23] <cra1g321> kline, is there not something called iptables persistent for that purpose ?
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• 2801[16:27:18] <kline> cra1g321, sure, but this also works and it's what came to mind first
• 2802[16:27:23] <kline> does it have any specific benefits?
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• 2804[16:28:12] <jordanm> kline: generally you want to ensure iptables rules are loaded before the interface is assigned an address
• 2805[16:28:27] <jordanm> kline: that's typically done with a pre-up rule in interfaces
• 2806[16:28:43] <jelly> somiaj: well... what used to be vixie cron two decades and two hundred patches ago
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• 2808[16:29:41] <kline> oh, fair
• 2809[16:29:51] <kline> jordanm, I'll have a look, thanks
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• 2811[16:29:59] <Brigo> Kyoshiro, try this: replaced-url
• 2812[16:30:21] <somiaj> jelly: ahh.
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• 2820[16:32:30] <Kyoshiro> I did Brigo
• 2821[16:32:59] <Kyoshiro> but I can't read properly systemd debug from a remote VGA console :/
• 2822[16:33:16] <Kyoshiro> I tried to send it to klogd but it seems it's unable to write to /var/log/journald
• 2823[16:33:19] <Kyoshiro> journal
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• 2826[16:33:59] <Brigo> Kyoshiro, well it need disks mounted first so it can access that file.
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• 2829[16:34:46] <mitzelflick> yeah
• 2830[16:34:59] <mitzelflick> wicd? is that the wireless gui? ah ha!
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• 2834[16:37:32] <nilekada> mtn: thanks. Unfortunately I got this: replaced-url
• 2835[16:37:35] <nilekada> I've adjusted my mirrors but still apt-get cannot locate the kde-config-touchpad file
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• 2838[16:38:19] <cra1g321> nilekada, why didnt you just apt-get or aptitude the package ?
• 2839[16:38:30] <Kyoshiro> Brigo, rootfs is mounted and /var is on rootfs directly
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• 2842[16:38:47] <nilekada> apt-get couldn't locate the package cra1g321
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• 2844[16:39:11] <cra1g321> also it should be kde-config-touchpad_0.8.1-2_all.deb
• 2845[16:39:18] <mtn> nilekada: that says the package was already installed
• 2846[16:40:12] <cra1g321> posting your sources.list file might enlighten us...
• 2847[16:40:29] <nilekada> cra1g321: I'm using Wheezy
• 2848[16:40:35] <nilekada> So that's what I downloaded
• 2849[16:40:44] <cra1g321> ah thats correct then
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• 2852[16:41:55] <nilekada> cra1g321: here's sources.list: replaced-url
• 2853[16:42:16] <nilekada> mtn Where?
• 2854[16:42:41] <nilekada> The error says python-pyudev hasn't been installed
• 2855[16:42:56] <mtn> nilekada: Preparing to replace kde-config-touchpad 0.8.1-1
• 2856[16:43:06] <mtn> nilekada: to replace it, it has to be installed already
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• 2858[16:43:21] <nilekada> Oh... Yes that makes sense
• 2859[16:43:32] <nilekada> Let me try running it and see
• 2860[16:44:09] * zykotick9 notes nilekada's sources.list seems to be missing the debian repository...
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• 2864[16:46:05] <nilekada> mtn No command associated with it
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• 2867[16:46:20] <cra1g321> nilekada, tidy up your sources.list so it is like this - replaced-url
• 2868[16:46:29] <nilekada> Can't see an entry for it in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
• 2869[16:46:45] <cra1g321> then do apt-get update after
• 2870[16:46:53] <mtn> nilekada: do what cra1g321 is telling you to do
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• 2894[16:58:57] <mitzelflick> when I install the debian 8.3amd64, and I want xorg but not gnome, uh
• 2895[16:59:03] <mitzelflick> and I want to use icem
• 2896[16:59:13] <mitzelflick> how do I avoid it setting up some kinda gui install page
• 2897[16:59:18] <mitzelflick> mnimal install?
• 2898[16:59:29] <mitzelflick> I usually put exec icewm in .Xinitrc
• 2899[16:59:35] <mitzelflick> maybe tek has moved on?
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• 2901[16:59:39] <mitzelflick> will such work ok?
• 2902[16:59:49] <jelly> mitzelflick: avoid installing any desktop environment at install time, and later
• 2903[16:59:52] <jelly> !install x
• 2904[16:59:52] <dpkg> To install X in Debian: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>.
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• 2906[17:00:12] <babilen> And use ~/.xsessionrc rather than ~/.xinitrc on Debian
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• 2915[17:03:01] <zykotick9> babilen: just a comment, with dwm my attempt to xinitrc->xsessionrc didn't really work as expected... some of it worked fine, but a "while true..." for the clock did not. just personal experience, likely user error (but perhaps not)
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• 2918[17:04:26] <babilen> zykotick9: Interesting .. wonder what contributed to that
• 2919[17:05:48] <jelly> .xsessionrc sounds like something that gets sourced rather than executed and expected to hold the session
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• 2922[17:06:41] <jelly> Xsession(5) seems to confirm that guess
• 2923[17:06:44] <babilen> And then there's the entire "startx -- vt01" thing
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• 2925[17:07:09] <nidhoegger> Hi, i have a small issue: i installed debian today with the nouveau driver (nvidia 960 gtx). xrandr shows unfortunately only one monitor ("default") instead of showing me my two plugged in monitors
• 2926[17:07:13] <nidhoegger> is there any way i can fix that?
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• 2929[17:07:31] <jelly> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc -- Source global environment variables. This script will source anything in $HOME/.xsessionrc if the file is present. This allows the user to set global environment variables for their X session, such as locale information.
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• 2931[17:08:18] <babilen> replaced-url
• 2932[17:08:31] <babilen> And yeah .. s/xsessionrc/xsession/ -- sorry
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• 2940[17:11:06] <jelly> babilen: and it's still not present in FILES section
• 2941[17:11:14] <jelly> of said man page
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• 2966[17:16:01] <mitzelflick> and later?
• 2967[17:16:02] <mitzelflick> lol
• 2968[17:16:12] <mitzelflick> if vmware has a beter commadnline..
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• 2971[17:16:28] <mitzelflick> If Vmware has a better command line..
• 2972[17:16:35] <mitzelflick> (sorry typing fail)
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• 2975[17:17:12] <mitzelflick> It seems all people do all day could be represented as lists, and therefore, lisp in the end wins
• 2976[17:17:22] <mitzelflick> a tables is kind of a list isnt it?
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• 2998[17:23:57] <pyvpx> where should I be looking and what should I be reading to get minimal, automated debian VMs create with KVM? I've gotten two setup using the HTTP install method with virt-install and a qemu-img raw format. I'd like to figure out a more minimal base, and make it highly repeatable (hundreds of VMs)
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• 3001[17:24:20] <pyvpx> I'm not unfamiliar with *nix, just linux and Debian in particular.
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• 3004[17:24:35] <pyvpx> not sure where the good resources are and googling related terms turns up a bunch of partially helpful blogspam
• 3005[17:25:10] <pyvpx> appreciate any suggestions or pointers
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• 3015[17:27:49] <nkuttler> !tell pyvpx about preseeding
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• 3017[17:28:55] <nkuttler> pyvpx: as for doing that for many machines.. not sure. i use saltstack and i think it's cloud component can do kvm
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• 3071[17:50:15] <zanshin> I installed Debian 8 without any desktop manager and then installed i3. How do I set my system up to start i3 when the machine is turned on? Or do I need to install Gnome or KDE or something else first?
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• 3075[17:51:37] <pyvpx> nkuttler: three machines, ~150 VMs. I'm mostly interested in what is a absolute minimal install look like? and what is the best way to replicate that once I have it (volume groups?)
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• 3077[17:52:15] <pyvpx> would love to have a base minimal image that I can just throw to virt-install for VM replication
• 3078[17:52:24] <pyvpx> ill hunt docs a bit more. thanks!
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• 3080[17:53:43] <babilen> zanshin: You could look into autologin configuration for different display managers such as gdm, kdm, lightdm, ...
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• 3107[18:05:19] <tripout> hi. i disconnected my main internal laptop screen, and connected a new screen via hdmi. now the fontsize in every window is really huge and i can't find the command or menu to resize it. lxappearance doesn't change anything.
• 3108[18:05:46] <mitzelfl1ck> is is hard to connect to cisco anycoonect vpn with deb?
• 3109[18:06:01] <tripout> native resolution changed from 1600x900 to 1920x1080
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• 3120[18:08:48] <tripout> back in 3minutes
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• 3151[18:16:22] <Mathuin> What files are executed when I log into a Debian system? My shell is bash and my window manager is i3. I had expected ~/.profile to be executed, but it was not. Help!
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• 3166[18:20:58] <mitzelfl1ck> it must have ability to be an ipsec cleint eh?
• 3167[18:21:10] <mitzelfl1ck> any freeunix must be able to be a ipsec client no?
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• 3171[18:21:50] <rsarson> hello! i hope i can get an answer here. i have a number of computers from the mid-2000's and don't know if the chips in them are 32 or 64-bit. they all have a version of debian on them and i know cat /proc/cpuinfo will give me the information i need. what i'm confused about is this: i know there are 32 and 64-bit versions of debian... can a) a 64-bit version be installed on 32-bit machine or vice-versa? if so, will the /proc/cpuinfo information be diffe
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• 3173[18:23:17] <dontknow> rsarson, you can't install 64 bit on 32 bit pc
• 3174[18:23:31] <cra1g321> but you can install 32bit on a 64bit capable pc
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• 3177[18:25:33] <rsarson> cra1g321: if that's the case on some of these machines, would /proc/cpuinfo still show 'lm' if it's a 64-bit chip?
• 3178[18:25:43] <jjjasper> /proc/cpuinfo will show you the actual capabilities
• 3179[18:26:03] <jjjasper> so it's down to trying if unsure
• 3180[18:26:14] <jjjasper> what kind of cpu is it
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• 3186[18:27:15] <rsarson> jjjasper: thanks, that's what was hoping. my next option was trying to reinstall debian using a 64-bit version, but i wasn't sure when and if it would fail, which is why i came here first.
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• 3189[18:27:30] <jjjasper> you'll know soon enough after rebooting
• 3190[18:27:34] <dimitry7> guys
• 3191[18:27:36] <jjjasper> if it isn't alerting you earlier
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• 3195[18:27:44] <dimitry7> is it possible to install packages on debian squeeze?
• 3196[18:27:54] <dimitry7> * I mean, is it still possible?
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• 3201[18:28:13] <jjjasper> hmm deb 6
• 3202[18:28:14] <dimitry7> I know it is old-old stable, but I need to install this: replaced-url
• 3203[18:28:17] <dimitry7> jjjasper, yup
• 3204[18:28:27] <jjjasper> well, check a mirror? ;)
• 3205[18:28:38] <dimitry7> okay
• 3206[18:28:40] <rsarson> and jjjasper, they are all intel chips... the wikipedia pages have helped, but i just wanted to be sure.
• 3207[18:28:44] <dimitry7> i thought everyone was down by now
• 3208[18:29:02] <jjjasper> hmm maybe some big archive still has it
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• 3211[18:29:20] <jjjasper> rsarson: which chip is it
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• 3214[18:29:34] <dimitry7> jjjasper, ok so
• 3215[18:29:35] <dimitry7> deb replaced-url
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• 3217[18:29:44] <dimitry7> that's not available any more right?
• 3218[18:29:58] <dimitry7> since feb/29
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• 3220[18:30:14] <rsarson> jjjasper: i have at least 6 cpus. i believe 4 are 32-bit and the other 2 are 64-bit.
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• 3223[18:31:16] <rsarson> it's confusing because they are pentium 4 and celerons... hard to determine without trial-and-error
• 3224[18:31:37] <cra1g321> can you not just google the cpu info ?
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• 3230[18:32:30] <jjjasper> also, on the same socket?
• 3231[18:32:46] <jjjasper> celeron/p4 shouldn't really matter apart from being ancient
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• 3233[18:33:04] <jjjasper> celeron having more chance on being 64bit though (if they don't share the socket)
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• 3237[18:33:55] <dimitry7> jjjasper, is that right?
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• 3239[18:34:01] <tripout> hi. i had to disconnect my internal laptop screen, because it's broken. i connected an external screen via hdmi. native resolution changed from 1600x900 to 1920x1080 and the fontsize of every window is now really huge. can't find the config file. need help. switched fontsize to 6, but it's still as large as fontsize 40 or so.
• 3240[18:34:02] <rsarson> jjjasper: 4 of them are the same socket. the other two are the same socket, but don't work on opposite boards, because one is a pentium d.
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• 3242[18:34:07] <Langley> Hi, my Debian 8 Xfce laptop turns off the display after 10 minutes, even though I've set everything to Never in Power settings. What can I do?
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• 3244[18:34:36] <karlpinc> Langley: Sounds like a screensaver setting to me.
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• 3247[18:34:52] <rsarson> anyway, you guys have answered my question: cat /proc/cpuinfo will give me the info i need, regardless. thanks!
• 3248[18:34:53] <Langley> Oh, you're right
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• 3250[18:35:02] <Langley> Thanks karlpinc
• 3251[18:35:20] <jjjasper> dimitry7: based on the fact celerons still are going strong and p4's are long gone
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• 3253[18:35:46] <Mathisen> hello i need some help, trying to install the extension pack to virtual box but i get some errors >> replaced-url
• 3254[18:35:48] <Mathisen> any ideas ?
• 3255[18:35:55] <dimitry7> jjjasper, no no, my question was about the squeeze-lts repository
• 3256[18:36:04] <dimitry7> it isn't available anymore right?
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• 3261[18:37:56] <jjjasper> oh, soz
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• 3271[18:40:19] <PdeClown> Hello. I'm having a strange problem. Proftpd isn't accepting connections. When I do ps -ef | grep proftpd I get this: proftpd 21687 1 0 17:29 ? 00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
• 3272[18:40:41] <PdeClown> But when I do netstat -na | grep :21 I get no result
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• 3274[18:41:20] <PdeClown> Proftpd is of course set to run on port 21, but obviously there is something not working as it should here
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• 3278[18:41:45] <tripout> no ideas?
• 3279[18:41:54] <PdeClown> Nope, clueless
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• 3281[18:42:09] <PdeClown> I found some things on the internet, but they don't seem to be the cause
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• 3285[18:43:07] <PdeClown> iptables -L -n
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• 3290[18:44:33] <tripout> my destktopbar and the mousepointer have the right size for this resolution. but every other window even the icon's are way too large...
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• 3292[18:45:01] <Fox682> What resolution are you working on tripout?
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• 3294[18:45:52] <tripout> 1920x1080
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• 3305[18:48:37] <kephra> moin, how to tell updatedb (on a Wheezy) to ignore/exclude some directories - updatedb will fill complete /var if indexing those
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• 3312[18:50:03] <Mitzelflick> Hi what is a easy to use remote desktop client for debian? using iceWM here!
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• 3318[18:50:24] <kephra> *oh* easy /etc/updatedb.conf ;-)
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• 3339[18:54:32] <dimitry7> guys
• 3340[18:54:41] <dimitry7> packages from my debian are broken
• 3341[18:54:50] <dimitry7> (this is debian 6) so i can't download them again
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• 3344[18:55:03] <dimitry7> i have daily backups, is it possible to restore?
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• 3347[18:55:13] <dimitry7> i want to restore openoffice
• 3348[18:55:53] <somiaj> dimitry7: squeeze is now on archive.debian.net
• 3349[18:56:00] <somiaj> !squeeze sources.list
• 3350[18:56:00] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb replaced-url
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• 3352[18:56:09] <dimitry7> ohh great!!!
• 3353[18:56:20] <dimitry7> somiaj, you've saved me! let me add it!
• 3354[18:56:27] <somiaj> dimitry7: also note squeeze-lts is being moved over to archive.debian.net but I think it is still on the offical mirrors right now
• 3355[18:56:33] <dimitry7> and about the backup? just to know if it is possible
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• 3358[18:56:45] <dimitry7> oh great, good to know!!
• 3359[18:57:05] <somiaj> dimitry7: what do you mean by 'the backup'?
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• 3363[18:58:15] <dimitry7> somiaj, oh this server is in Amazon AWS; so I have snapshots of the whole filesystem and I was thinking about doing an rsync from the 2 days old backup
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• 3365[18:58:21] <dimitry7> (im gonna install from the mirror)
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• 3370[18:59:29] <dimitry7> but wonder if the backup would have worked
• 3371[18:59:29] <dimitry7> somiaj, see: W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
• 3372[18:59:35] <dimitry7> looks like signature, hold on
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• 3375[19:00:45] <somiaj> dimitry7: I heard someone the other day saying that squeeze-lts has already been removed from some of the mirrors
• 3376[19:01:05] <somiaj> dimitry7: I'm unsure if it is on archive.debian.org yet, or if you have to be a bit more selective of the mirror than httpredir redirector.
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• 3383[19:03:34] <dimitry7> somiaj, fortunately it is still on archive!!! :D
• 3384[19:03:38] <dimitry7> im downloading openoffice now!!
• 3385[19:03:39] <dimitry7> :D
• 3386[19:04:04] <somiaj> dimitry7: well I woudln't say still, archive.debian.org is where the acrhive of all debian release go. You can still get debian 1.0 [though only in source] from archive last I knew
• 3387[19:04:24] <dimitry7> somiaj, I have to tell you that I have been pushing my developers to migrate to jessie but they use some things with firebird and perl and can't upgrade :(
• 3388[19:04:37] <dimitry7> they're still testing, hope I can upgrade soon
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• 3390[19:04:49] <dimitry7> really? debian 1?
• 3391[19:04:54] <dimitry7> woow, that's amazing! :)
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• 3393[19:05:02] <somiaj> well as long as security is not an issue, you'll be fine using the archive.
• 3394[19:05:08] <dimitry7> long live to archive.debian.org hehe
• 3395[19:05:19] <somiaj> archive supplies both source and binary packages [to a point, after a certain point in the past they only provide source]
• 3396[19:05:19] <dimitry7> security? why?
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• 3398[19:05:44] <somiaj> dimitry7: squeeze-lts dropped security support last month. Any security bugs that surface in squeeze will not be fixed from here on out
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• 3402[19:06:21] <somiaj> i.e. archive is an archive, there is no security or changing of the software.
• 3403[19:06:34] <dimitry7> somiaj, oh yes.. you're right, that's one of my biggest concerns, I won't have security updates :(. But it's not my resposibility since these guys don't hurry !
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• 3405[19:06:44] <dimitry7> see my boss told me to recover from backup, (now the problem is solved but...
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• 3407[19:07:03] <dimitry7> correcting a totally broken package system from backups, doing rsyncs, that's a nightmare right?
• 3408[19:07:09] <Mitzelflick> how do I get gnash or flash again?
• 3409[19:07:30] <dimitry7> yeah archive is archive
• 3410[19:07:41] <somiaj> dimitry7: it shouldn't be, everything is a file so if you backuped /var correctly and your backup was at a point before it was broken you can recover
• 3411[19:07:44] <alkisg> $ dpkg -S /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
• 3412[19:07:44] <alkisg> ltsp-client-core: /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
• 3413[19:07:44] <alkisg> ltsp-client-core: /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
• 3414[19:07:45] <alkisg> Hi, is there any time at ltsp-client-core installation, where the first file (update-kernels) would be present in the disk, while the second file (update-kernels.conf) is not unpacked yet? That would explain an issue I'm seeing, but I can't imagine how that can happen...
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• 3418[19:07:57] <somiaj> Mitzelflick: do you want gnash or prefer non-free flash. What browser are you using?
• 3419[19:08:04] <alkisg> Hi, is there any time at ltsp-client-core installation, where the first file (update-kernels) would be present in the disk, while the second file (update-kernels.conf) is not unpacked yet? That would explain an issue I'm seeing, but I can't imagine how that can happen...
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• 3421[19:08:26] <alkisg> (I don't know if the 3 lines I pasted are shown, or if the bot cut them...)
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• 3423[19:08:35] <dimitry7> somiaj, yeah that's right, but would take hours
• 3424[19:08:37] <somiaj> alkisg: sometimes .conf files in /etc are generated during the install and not unpacked from the archive.
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• 3426[19:08:54] <somiaj> alkisg: you can find more info by looking at debconf
• 3427[19:09:04] <alkisg> somiaj: I'm a maintainer of ltsp, we're shipping that conffile
• 3428[19:09:08] <alkisg> dpkg -S does have it
• 3429[19:09:08] <dpkg> You Fool! does have it is installed!
• 3430[19:09:11] <somiaj> alkisg: check the state of the packge, is it unpacked but not configured.
• 3431[19:09:29] <Mitzelflick> chrome
• 3432[19:09:32] <somiaj> alkisg: ahh, that is strange.
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• 3434[19:09:38] <Mitzelflick> I could switch to firefox
• 3435[19:09:42] <somiaj> Mitzelflick: google-chrome or chromium
• 3436[19:09:43] <Mitzelflick> if thats easier
• 3437[19:09:44] <alkisg> somiaj: when it's shipped as a conffile, and not generated by postinst, is it possible to not exists even in the "unpacked" state?
• 3438[19:09:50] <Mitzelflick> chromium
• 3439[19:09:51] <alkisg> *not exist
• 3440[19:09:52] <cra1g321> Mitzelflick, chrome already comes with flashplugin
• 3441[19:09:55] <somiaj> Mitzelflick: I just want to know what you want to use
• 3442[19:10:12] <cra1g321> Mitzelflick, this page will help you replaced-url
• 3443[19:10:13] <Mitzelflick> Well I want to use the vmware 5.5 web client but it complains flash is missing..
• 3444[19:10:32] <somiaj> Mitzelflick: chromium due to the pepper api can't use gnash. It can however use the pepperflash from crhome. In the repo contrib, you can install pepperflashplugin-nonfree to get non-free flash in crhome
• 3445[19:10:38] <Mitzelflick> oh Im dump I hit download and it bring me to page
• 3446[19:10:42] <Mitzelflick> to grab flash for chrome
• 3447[19:10:46] <Mitzelflick> Im dumb
• 3448[19:11:22] <somiaj> alkisg: I don't know. I'm unsure if conf files are treated differently even if they are supplied. #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net may be more responsive for packageing issues
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• 3450[19:11:32] <alkisg> thank you somiaj
• 3451[19:11:42] <PdeClown> Hello. I'm having a strange problem. Proftpd isn't accepting connections. When I do ps -ef | grep proftpd I get this: proftpd 21687 1 0 17:29 ? 00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
• 3452[19:12:01] <somiaj> PdeClown: use netstat to see what interface/port it is listening on
• 3453[19:12:05] <PdeClown> But when I do netstat -na | grep :21 I get no result.
• 3454[19:12:14] <dimitry7> somiaj, man thanks a lot for your help! you've really saved me!
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• 3457[19:12:52] <somiaj> PdeClown: I'd see if maybe it is listening on a different port.
• 3458[19:13:24] <PdeClown> It shouldnt, but how can I check if it is?
• 3459[19:13:30] <somiaj> PdeClown: maybe netstat -a | grep LISTEN
• 3460[19:14:54] <somiaj> PdeClown: man netstat there is a command you can add that gives the actual process listening on the port. I don tknow it off the top of my head
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• 3464[19:15:28] <PdeClown> It doesn't appear in the listen list
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• 3468[19:16:01] <somiaj> PdeClown: then maybe there is a configuration issue and the daemon only thinks it is listening on that port.
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• 3472[19:17:38] <Mitzelflick> ok I have the adobe flash player 64 bit unpacked, a tarball
• 3473[19:17:56] <somiaj> Mitzelflick: if you are using chromium why not just install the package from contrib I pointed you at.
• 3474[19:17:58] <Mitzelflick> I am supposed to place it into the pluging dir of chromium?
• 3475[19:18:00] <cra1g321> Mitzelflick, why ignore the advice you've been given ?
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• 3477[19:18:04] <Mitzelflick> ok
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• 3479[19:18:18] <cra1g321> apt-get install chromium pepperflashplugin-nonfree
• 3480[19:18:21] <Mitzelflick> How do I configure the contrib repo? sources.list right?
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• 3488[19:19:49] <prtz1279> hi
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• 3493[19:21:10] <PdeClown> In the config it says port 21
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• 3495[19:21:56] <PdeClown> I changed it to 2121 just to test, but that doesn't help either
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• 3509[19:25:25] <Mitzelflick> your advice worked, thank you people
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• 3516[19:27:10] <Fox682> Anyone know off-hand how to disable the Mouse Integration in Virtual Box for all VMs by default?
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• 3522[19:28:30] <AlexLikeRock> Fox682, do you ser the config file?
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• 3526[19:29:09] <jelly> dimitry7: replaced-url
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• 3528[19:29:24] <Fox682> AlexLikeRock, gotta find it xD
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• 3533[19:30:58] <Fox682> gah, internet sez, "run it from the terminal to disable it"... >.>
• 3534[19:32:23] <jelly> dimitry7: so you have to wait a bit
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• 3536[19:32:39] <zykotick9> Fox682: tried asking in #vbox perhaps...
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• 3538[19:32:51] <dimitry7> jelly, thank you Jelly :)
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• 3540[19:33:06] <Mitzelflick> anyone know of a rdesktop client not dependant on gnome?
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• 3542[19:33:19] <Fox682> ... I'm on IRC... wth am I thinking lol that's a darn good suggestion. Not used to IRC yet lol
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• 3544[19:34:01] <jelly> dimitry7: squeeze-lts is gone from my mirror but still not fetchable from archive.d.o, that much I can confirm
• 3545[19:34:19] <zanshin> babilen: Thanks. lightdm seems to fit my needs perfectly.
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• 3549[19:35:30] <Fox682> thanks zykotick9, i'm there lol
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• 3552[19:36:52] <somiaj> Mitzelflick: how much of gnome does it depend on. Usually depending on the core libs isn't that big of an issue when running other desktops/wms.
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• 3555[19:37:46] <Mitzelflick> I tried gremotedesktop and it gives blank screen
• 3556[19:37:55] <thurstylark> I've just used clonezilla to copy a Jessie install to a new machine, but when I boot the new machine, systemd delays boot because it's trying to start a disk by a uuid that doesn't exist. Here's the output of lsblk and journalctl: replaced-url
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• 3559[19:38:41] <dtcrshr> hello everyone. I have this oldschool ftp server, running debian 6. I wish to update it to debian 8. Its a virtual machine, So I can eaily make a snapshot before the update, but im concerned if I can just setup the repos for jessie, and run a dist upgrade, or I cant jumpt the 7
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• 3561[19:38:57] <markybob> dtcrshr: no
• 3562[19:39:04] <markybob> dtcrshr: you have to go to wheezy first
• 3563[19:39:05] <somiaj> thurstylark: you will have to modify your fstab to match the uuid's of your new install (also maybe modify grub as well)
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• 3565[19:39:15] <dimitry7> jelly, from your mirror? which one?
• 3566[19:39:20] <dimitry7> guys, im getting this error: [33997.189500] EXT4-fs error (device xvdh): __ext4_read_dirblock:675: inode #4850819: comm rsync: Directory hole fou
• 3567[19:39:30] <dimitry7> what's that?
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• 3569[19:39:50] <dimitry7> I runned out of innodes?
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• 3574[19:41:01] <thurstylark> somiaj: ahh. Thanks
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• 3576[19:41:22] <dimitry7> see: replaced-url
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• 3578[19:42:06] <dimitry7> also see: replaced-url
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• 3587[19:42:38] <mariotoimasu> Can anyone help me on fix audio on a Win7 VirtualBox guest in Debian 8 Host? Only mic work
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• 3589[19:42:51] <StryKaizer> I just want my vps to send out mails (triggered by php). Whats the easiest way to set this up?
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• 3591[19:43:06] <jelly> dimitry7: it doesn't really matter if it's gone already, is it? debian.iskon.hr
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• 3594[19:43:50] <dimitry7> oh ok
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• 3598[19:44:29] <dimitry7> what's this: [33977.977611] EXT4-fs error (device xvdh): __ext4_read_dirblock:675: inode #4850819: comm rsync: Directory hole found
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• 3601[19:45:37] <qman__> dimitry7: means you need to run fsck
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• 3604[19:46:38] <dimitry7> qman__,
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• 3607[19:47:00] <StryKaizer> google ftw: mail working now (love those tutorials from linode: replaced-url
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• 3609[19:47:22] <dimitry7> nice!
• 3610[19:47:22] <dimitry7> let me do it
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• 3620[19:49:17] <karlpinc> mariotoimasu: Don't know if this will help....
• 3621[19:49:26] <karlpinc> !tell mariotoimasu about alsa checklist
• 3622[19:49:59] <mariotoimasu> Thanks
• 3623[19:50:02] <thurstylark> !tell thurstylark about alsa checklist
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• 3629[19:51:22] <karlpinc> !tell thurstylark about selftell
• 3630[19:51:28] <jmcnaught> thurstylark: the topic has examples of how to query the bot
• 3631[19:52:08] <thurstylark> Noted. Just didn't know the nick of the bot.
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• 3639[19:56:23] <ToHellWithGA> i have two hard drives equal in size. now that i now debian configured to my satisfaction on one drive (sda). is it possible to set up RAID mirroring to the other (sdb)?
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• 3642[19:56:33] <ToHellWithGA> s/now that i now/now that i have/
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• 3644[19:56:59] <evil_shibe> hi. i'm new debian's users. stable version is good for desktop?
• 3645[19:57:11] <mtn> evil_shibe: yes it is
• 3646[19:57:14] <evil_shibe> thx
• 3647[19:57:31] <evil_shibe> maybe i'm not new. because i used mint, ubuntu etc :) i like apt-get :)
• 3648[19:58:52] <ToHellWithGA> evil_shibe: if you're coming from a recent ubuntu a few programs might have slightly older versions - ubuntu is based on debugging a snapshot of debian unstable rather than debian stable.
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• 3650[20:00:04] <evil_shibe> i don't must have latestr soft version, just security patched
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• 3652[20:00:31] <evil_shibe> i choosed between debian or freebsd.
• 3653[20:01:05] <dhanraj> anyone know how do i get file extensions through c or cpp?
• 3654[20:01:33] <evil_shibe> get last 3 chars from filename?
• 3655[20:01:52] <evil_shibe> or 3 chars after dot?
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• 3658[20:02:47] <dhanraj> some have many characters
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• 3662[20:03:42] <dhanraj> checking for dot and getting all chars after that is not optimum so is there a better way to get file extension?
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• 3664[20:03:49] <ToHellWithGA> dhanraj: what about invoking the "file" command?
• 3665[20:04:12] <ToHellWithGA> that would actually indicate the file type magic rather than relying on the extension to be accurate
• 3666[20:05:02] <dhanraj> is there a specific command to do that?
• 3667[20:05:10] <blind> "file"
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• 3673[20:06:35] <dhanraj> ok that one thanks i will try this ToHellWithGA and blind
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• 3697[20:20:03] <Fox682> I'm trying to setup a DHCP on a specific interface (Jessie) and it's flat failing I'm using the config in the debian wiki for it. It's failing with some really non-specific errors...
• 3698[20:20:12] <Fox682> (DHCP server)
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• 3707[20:22:15] <kotten> Fox682 I don't know but could it be something with this systemctl enable start@<interface> stuff?
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• 3711[20:23:23] <Fox682> yeah it fails and refers me to journalctl, syslog has the same info
• 3712[20:23:24] <axelFly> hello @ all
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• 3714[20:23:48] <axelFly> i got after new install the following error dconf-CRITICAL: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user':
• 3715[20:24:09] <axelFly> my syslog is 512M full with this error
• 3716[20:24:15] <Darkwater> can I install the android sdk (for app development, not just adb or fastboot) from the debian repos?
• 3717[20:24:21] <kotten> Fox682 well what does the error say?
• 3718[20:24:34] <Darkwater> or is there a good 3rd party repo I can add? or do I have to use google's distribution?
• 3719[20:24:35] <kotten> Fox682 what happens if you start the dhcp server without "systemctl" or something
• 3720[20:24:41] <kotten> Fox682 in verbose/debug mode?
• 3721[20:24:58] <axelFly> fresh install debian 8.3. I reinstalled it and got the same error again. Before I proofed the crc of the usb-stick and the iso
• 3722[20:25:04] <kotten> Darkwater yes you can install the android SDK
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• 3724[20:25:34] <kotten> wife is shouting at me...
• 3725[20:25:55] <axelFly> it is this bug: replaced-url
• 3726[20:25:56] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 3728[20:26:16] <axelFly> I dont get the error before
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• 3730[20:26:28] <axelFly> using jessie 1.5 years
• 3731[20:26:28] <Darkwater> kotten: what package(s) should I get? the names confuse me and I can't find /usr/bin/android with apt-file
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• 3734[20:27:25] <Mitzelflick> Hi what is a nice ipsec vpn client for debian 83amd64?
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• 3736[20:27:27] <evil_shibe> why main developer of debian going suicide?
• 3737[20:27:44] <evil_shibe> do*
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• 3739[20:27:52] <Mitzelflick> because you bugged her
• 3740[20:28:08] <markybob> evil_shibe: offtopic
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• 3761[20:34:20] <grawity> Mitzelflick: strongswan
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• 3765[20:34:48] <alien1it> #linux
• 3766[20:35:21] <alien1it> ops...pardon...
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• 3771[20:38:05] <Fox682> kotten, I'm trying multiple variations of the config, Curly braces anywhere cause systax errors
• 3772[20:38:06] <Fox682> Something else seems really wrong lol
• 3773[20:38:24] <axelFly> anybody using gnome and got freezes?
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• 3780[20:40:51] <Fox682> it's like nothing I'm doing works even if I prime eth1 and give it an ip and subnet then restart it... nothing
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• 3782[20:41:29] <Fox682> oh.... hang on
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• 3787[20:42:45] <Fox682> I think i'm dumb, standby lol
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• 3789[20:42:52] <Mitzelflick> strongswan seems to be a full ipsec server, I only want a client to connect to an existing cisco vpn...
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• 3793[20:44:42] <Fox682> yup, i'm dumb. editing wrong config... why do I torture myself.... lol
• 3794[20:44:53] <grawity> Mitzelflick: oh, cisco vpn specifically? try vpnc
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• 3919[21:23:52] <txdv> how do i run a 32 bit version of an application in the command line?
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• 3922[21:24:58] <greycat> Same way you run any other program. Type its name.
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• 3924[21:26:21] <txdv> but i have both the i386 and the 64bit package installed
• 3925[21:26:32] <txdv> and if i just type the name it will run the 64bit one
• 3926[21:26:42] <nkuttler> txdv: use the full path
• 3927[21:26:47] <greycat> Then type the full path to the other one.
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• 3937[21:31:38] <darsie> Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: libpng-dev.
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• 3939[21:32:52] <markybob> darsie: which debian?
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• 3941[21:32:58] <darsie> jessie
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• 3944[21:33:09] <darsie> just found replaced-url
• 3945[21:33:10] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 3948[21:33:55] <darsie> trying to ssb guvcview
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• 3950[21:34:15] <darsie> how do I fix this?
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• 3952[21:34:26] <markybob> darsie a wine bug? ask #winehq
• 3953[21:34:32] <darsie> trying to ssb guvcview
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• 3956[21:35:20] <markybob> darsie: the report does say it's "unreproducible"
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• 3958[21:35:50] <darsie> I get it with aptitude build-dep guvcview
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• 3963[21:36:52] <markybob> darsie: my guess is you have backported mesa
• 3964[21:37:11] <darsie> hmm
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• 3970[21:38:40] <anonymus2205> hi i'v installed mlgui ,and there is no server list ,how can i fix that
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• 3973[21:39:29] <__marco> Hi. Can docker be used to build debian packages? For example to build a testing package from a stable machine?
• 3974[21:40:08] <greycat> You can set up a testing chroot on a stable box without needing docker.
• 3975[21:40:30] <tharkun> !tell __marco about ssb
• 3976[21:40:43] <greycat> At least, as long as the testing userspace programs can work with the stable kernel.
• 3977[21:40:47] <darsie> markybob: My mesa-utils are 8.2.0-1, the jessie version.
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• 3979[21:41:07] <__marco> greycat: I didn't think about chroot
• 3980[21:41:08] <markybob> darsie: what's libsdl2-dev?
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• 3985[21:42:05] <darsie> markybob: 2.0.2+dfsg1-6, jessie
• 3986[21:42:15] <markybob> ,v checkbackport guvcview
• 3987[21:42:16] <judd> No package named 'checkbackport' was found in amd64.
• 3988[21:42:19] <markybob> ,checkbackport guvcview
• 3989[21:42:21] <judd> Backporting package guvcview in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgsl-dev.
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• 3991[21:42:29] <markybob> that's your problem
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• 3994[21:44:57] <darsie> Guess I won't use AAC audio codec in guvcview, then.
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• 4022[22:00:26] <s5fs> I'm having trouble creating a unit file for spawn-fcgi. When I 'systemctl start my.service' it hangs, systemd says it timed out, but then the processes are started correctly. How can I correct this?
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• 4036[22:05:51] <tharkun> setting up chroot
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• 4119[22:41:11] <thurstylark> I need a newer version of the HDA audio driver than currently in jessie-backports. I know ubuntu has HDA dkms packages. Is there something similar for debian?
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• 4122[22:42:14] <greycat> thurstylark: I believe it's a kernel module, and as such you'd need a whole new kernel. Yes, there are newer kernels in jessie-backports.
• 4123[22:42:46] <thurstylark> greycat: I'm already on 4.3.0-0.bpo.1
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• 4196[23:11:26] <c0fe_machine> well github can be used as a cdn
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• 4203[23:14:42] <s5fs> apparently so lol
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• 4205[23:15:16] <thurstylark> s5fs: what type of service did you set in your unit file?
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• 4209[23:16:10] <bakkus> greetings. I've spun up a Debian 6.0 (squeeze) VM for.. "needing to migrate legacy stuff"-reasons. Any way of making apt work? changing squeeze to squeeze-lts just makes it complain about missing entries in Release-file. All I want is to install rsync :/
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• 4211[23:16:40] <s5fs> thurstylark: just got it working w/help from #systemd. I had it as Type=forking but had to remove the PIDFile directive
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• 4215[23:16:56] <thurstylark> Ahh. Cool.
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• 4227[23:19:11] <axelFly> got anybody freezes with gnome and debian 8.3
• 4228[23:19:14] <axelFly> ?
• 4229[23:19:18] <axelFly> fresh installß
• 4230[23:19:20] <s5fs> Strange and time-consuming but I'm glad it's working.
• 4231[23:19:22] <axelFly> ?
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• 4242[23:22:36] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell bakkus about archive.debian.org
• 4243[23:22:57] <jmcnaught> bakkus: the bot just messaged you about something you could try for getting rsync
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• 4245[23:23:02] <svetlana> hi, i am installind debian kde and i feel like the installer should guide the user through testing some common problems like logging in, sound, sound in browser, web cam, mic, etc... and give user guidance how to solve these issues, what is his hardware, etc, what packages to install from non-free if needed... if kde hangs then it should disable compositing and allow user to simplify things in ways which
• 4246[23:23:08] <svetlana> are known to commonly help to fix or troubleshoot things... should i file it as a bug in the bug tracker or what?
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• 4249[23:23:41] <sypher> svetlana: Anything that involves the system using anything from non-free out of the box without manually enabling the repo is likely not going to happen.
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• 4252[23:24:31] <svetlana> sypher: then at least free things, like kde hang on login and disabling kwin compositing fixed it for some reason, web browser lacks sounds and i think it's likely some codec, i didn't figure that out yet
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• 4255[23:25:03] <svetlana> sypher: it can prompt the user before enabling non-free
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• 4269[23:29:20] <Phreya> replaced-url
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• 4271[23:29:59] <karlpinc> svetlana: You could file a bug report against the installer. Really the best things for a new user to look at are factoids, these: <overview> <don't braek debian> <grounding> <finding docs>
• 4272[23:30:22] <karlpinc> svetlana: er, <don't break debian>
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• 4276[23:31:15] <svetlana> this 'finding docs' looks like it's 1990
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• 4278[23:31:46] <svetlana> like, kde has docs in its help viewer, i think the installation guide is included in that..
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• 4280[23:31:59] <karlpinc> svetlana: Ye Olde foldoc?
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• 4283[23:32:21] <karlpinc> svetlana: Most here prefer the command line. It's a lot easier to support too.
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• 4285[23:32:54] <svetlana> the folk i'm doing this for is expecting a desktop. if they preferred the commandline they'd not install kde, they'd just live in tty1
• 4286[23:33:06] <jmcnaught> heh if it was from 1990 it would have at least one gopher:// link in it
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• 4290[23:33:34] <svetlana> :))
• 4291[23:33:48] <jmcnaught> svetlana: Debian has docs all over the place, the <finding docs> factoid in the bot is just a pointer on where to look for them
• 4292[23:33:49] <karlpinc> svetlana: Easy enough to translate to gui once you know where to look. Except perhaps the README.debian. But that's mostly needed for servers.
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• 4295[23:34:18] <cheapie> If anybody remembers my "why can't I have everything on one disc" rant from a while back, turns out debian-cd can do that.
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• 4298[23:35:34] <karlpinc> cheapie: Interesting. So now you have "The Great Big USB Stick of Debian"?
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• 4312[23:39:23] <cheapie> karlpinc: 3-layer BD-RE, actually.
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• 4314[23:40:08] <karlpinc> cheapie: Aw, shucks. You didn't really put _everything_ on then. :-(
• 4315[23:40:08] <cheapie> And, of course, my drive doesn't support CAV reading of this media type (only CLV), so my experiments with it are *really* slow.
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• 4317[23:40:23] <cheapie> What do you think I missed?
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• 4321[23:41:14] <karlpinc> cheapie: On a single disk? What's the capacity?
• 4322[23:41:20] <cheapie> 100 GB/disc.
• 4323[23:41:42] <cheapie> Also US$20/disc, so it's not exactly cheap.
• 4324[23:41:59] <cheapie> The write-once variety is probably cheaper.
• 4325[23:42:08] <karlpinc> cheapie: Cool. Is it an easy "single command line" sort of thing?
• 4326[23:42:21] <cheapie> Erm... not really...
• 4327[23:42:48] <cheapie> I *can* make a jigdo file from it to save other people the work if there's any interest in it.
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• 4334[23:43:17] <karlpinc> cheapie: What would save other people work would be to put your script on wiki.debian.org.
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• 4338[23:44:20] <cheapie> Actually getting to the point where I can make jigdo/iso files is complicated almost to the point of being unreasonable to document.
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• 4347[23:46:18] <cheapie> Somebody else already documented most of it: replaced-url
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• 4349[23:47:15] <karlpinc> cheapie: It's odd you can fit everything in 100G when the mirror sizes for "all" and "amd64" add up to close to 250G.
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• 4351[23:47:56] <cheapie> What exactly are you measuring? jessie+stretch+sid+whatever all together?+
• 4352[23:47:58] <cheapie> -+
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• 4354[23:48:03] <karlpinc> cheapie: replaced-url
• 4355[23:48:04] <cheapie> This is just jessie.
• 4356[23:48:16] <karlpinc> cheapie: Ah, that explains it.
• 4357[23:48:49] <cheapie> Note that the official DLBD (50GB) image set consists of two discs.
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