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0 [00:00:12] <OerHeks> Happy New Year !
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2 [00:00:22] <r3vlibre> Happy new year :)
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8 [00:02:34] <dutchfish> happy new year and a blessed 2017
9 [00:03:01] <hubot> HAPPY NEW YEAR
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17 [00:08:51] <MIMI> s -m IRC.CORRUPTIRCD.COM
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26 [00:12:48] <awal1> Is "zekr" running correctly for
anyone using it?
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31 [00:14:04] <awal1> It crashes for me
replaced-url
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37 [00:17:47] <Asoka> happy new year
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42 [00:20:24] <missmbob> awal1:
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53 [00:24:58] <efloid> t minus 35 seconds until Holisecond 2016!
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55 [00:25:10] <efloid> t minus 35 minutes until Holisecond 2016!
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58 [00:25:41] <efloid> watch -p -n 1 date -u
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60 [00:28:22] <unborn> efloid: happy new your to you too :)
61 [00:28:44] <unborn> and to all folks who wished !
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63 [00:29:28] <efloid> it's not new year, its Holisecond
23:59:60 !
64 [00:30:53] <unborn> efloid: i just passed it here 24 minutes
ago.. enjoy yours!
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69 [00:31:31] <dvs> bah
70 [00:31:37] <dvs> Sat Dec 31 18:31:36 EST 2016
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73 [00:32:35] <efloid> grep 2017
/usr/share/zoneinfo/leap-seconds.list
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76 [00:33:08] <efloid> dvs: Holisecond is at 18:59:60 EST !
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79 [00:33:40] <efloid> unborn: wrong! Holisecond is at the same
time around the world!
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87 [00:36:06] <unborn> efloid: well I do not say this usually
but - i know what time is here in my country, no offence :) whatever
time zone you are in.. bless you in 2017 :)
88 [00:36:30] <efloid> *lost*
89 [00:36:56] <efloid> Holisecond is the same time everywhere
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92 [00:37:31] <TomTomTo1> you are weirdly hyped about this leap
second thing...
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104 [00:41:43] <rklopfer> happy new year!
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109 [00:42:17] <pogs> you too!
110 [00:42:56] <efloid> 18 minutes until Holisecond 2016!
111 [00:43:05] <efloid> watch -p -n 1 date -u and you will see
the clock go from 23:59:59 to 23:59:60
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113 [00:44:40] <somiaj> there is most likely a freenode newyears
channel to share the joy in
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115 [00:46:05] <awal1> missmbob: thanks for the link! zekr works
fine now after installing libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 :)
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118 [00:48:31] <missmbob> awal1: sounds like a depends bug that
should be reported
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123 [00:49:16] <awal1> missmbob: I was thinking in that yeah :)
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125 [00:50:25] <awal1> I'm using zekr in unstable. I'll
check jessie version deps then bug report
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129 [00:52:47] <awal1> ,v zekr
130 [00:52:56] <judd> Package: zekr on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free:
1.0.0+repack-7; sid/non-free: 1.1.0+repack-2; stretch/non-free:
1.1.0+repack-2
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290 [02:24:39] <awal1> I don't understand how/why debian
will include a completely broken pkg such as 'zekr'. it
miss dependency on libgtkwebkit-1.0-0, misses feature being
ttf-me-quran non available in debian, crashing and becoming
unresponsive when clicking in audio buttons, half of it's
features not working...
291 [02:25:14] <awal1> why/will include in next stable release ^
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297 [02:27:22] <awal1> zekr requires around 300 mb disk space
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300 [02:28:05] <awal1> which kind of bugs prevents a given pkg
from being released with stable? only grave and serious bugs?
301 [02:28:23] <themill> awal1: packages are only as good as the
testing they get and the bug reports that get filed against them.
Thanks for filing #849836 -- you could have made it
"serious" btw, as missing dependencies are a violation of
policy
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303 [02:29:04] <awal1> themill: how to change the severity?
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310 [02:32:31] <missmbob> awal1:
replaced-url
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313 [02:33:56] <awal1_> missmbob: ok, thanks. I got disconnected
(wifi problems) , I may have missed themill answer too
314 [02:35:19] <awal1_> missmbob: looks like only the responsible
of the pkg or another DD/debian maintainer can change the severity
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318 [02:36:54] <WindowsXPForever> How do I upgrade my whole
system to the next version? Some packages aren't installing
anymore because they aren't found. I think my system must be
out of date.
319 [02:37:23] <nkuttler> !tell WindowsXPForever about bat
320 [02:37:27] <nkuttler> !tell WindowsXPForever about errors
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322 [02:37:48] <awal1_> WindowsXPForever: which version of debian
are you running?
323 [02:38:29] <WindowsXPForever> I don't even know that. I
remember something about version 6 if that means anything
324 [02:38:46] <WindowsXPForever> It's currently kernel
panicked so I can't access it at the moment
325 [02:39:32] <themill> awal1_: you can change the severity on
any bug; if the maintainer disagrees then they have the final say.
In the case where there are missing dependencies, the maintainer
isn't going to disagree (unless of course it's a matter or
installing Recommends or not, which appears not to be the case here)
326 [02:39:43] <WindowsXPForever> I'll go reset it
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328 [02:40:30] <awal1_> themill: ok, I confess I dont understand
how to do so even checking missmbob link :P
329 [02:41:15] <awal1_> WindowsXPForever: run this command in
terminal: lsb_release -a and paste output in paste.debian.net
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332 [02:44:19] <WindowsXPForever> Does debian come with a paste
(auto upload to pastebin) command like Gentoo does?
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334 [02:44:32] <awal1_> pastebinit
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337 [02:46:06] <WindowsXPForever> awal1_, my release is
Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.8 (squeeze). I don't see an
obvious need to share the several other lines.
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341 [02:48:13] <ghostinzshell> I've installed Firefox from
the mozilla.debian.net repo, but GNOME seems to be confusing Firefox
& Firefox ESR when showing running instances. There's a
discussion on StackExchange (replaced-url
342 [02:48:25] <awal1_> WindowsXPForever: I'm off. I
don't like your nickname; you seem like a troll :P
343 [02:49:01] <WindowsXPForever> If Donald Trump is racist, then
I am a troll.
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345 [02:50:10] <prussian> pretty sure squeeze is well past EOL as
of this year
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347 [02:50:32] <prussian> you need to upgrade. either by
dist-upgrade or just install the latest stable
348 [02:51:02] <WindowsXPForever> latest stable off the CD/DVD?
349 [02:51:10] <WindowsXPForever> dist-upgrade is the command
that I forgot
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351 [02:51:33] <WindowsXPForever> If there's some
documentation on the system that covers these basic thing I sure
don't know about it
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353 [02:52:07] <bazhang> the debian wiki
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355 [02:52:29] <bazhang> !wiki
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363 [02:55:13] <mystified> Hi Just installed debian.
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366 [02:55:56] <mystified> for some reason my user name is not
root
367 [02:56:15] <mystified> how can I add myself to the root wheel
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370 [02:56:43] <ghostinzshell> mystified: Did you give the root
account a password during installation?
371 [02:56:48] <themill> Debian is not BSD. What are you really
trying to do?
372 [02:57:16] <mystified> I wish to install apps from terminal
373 [02:57:29] <mystified> I'm not permitted as it states
i'm not root
374 [02:57:43] <mystified> BTW.. Thanks for offering help
375 [02:57:48] <nkuttler> mystified: the installer asks you for a
root password. or did you install sudo?
376 [02:57:51] <mystified> & Happy New Year
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379 [02:58:11] <mystified> I assumed I added it correctly
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381 [02:58:35] <mystified> when I go "CTRL + F2"
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383 [02:58:42] <mystified> my root password works
384 [02:59:09] <mystified> LOGIN password works
385 [02:59:16] <ghostinzshell> mystified: You can use `su` in the
terminal, input your root password and then proceed to install
software.
386 [02:59:28] <mystified> But when in xfce & go sudo
387 [02:59:35] <mystified> password not accepted
388 [02:59:37] <nkuttler> mystified: sudo takes the user
password, not root
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390 [02:59:41] <mystified> I'm the only user
391 [02:59:55] <nkuttler> mystified: you give sudo *your*
password, not the root password
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398 [03:01:46] <awal1_> mystified: durring install if you dont
create root passwd root login is disabled and sudo enabled.
399 [03:01:57] <mystified> Ah, found the prob.
400 [03:02:01] <mystified> Stupid me
401 [03:02:09] <mystified> I had synaptic open
402 [03:02:33] <mystified> now ok.
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404 [03:02:57] <mystified> I was also trying to use sudo -i &
su -i
405 [03:03:00] <mystified> not su
406 [03:03:05] <awal1_> you can enbable it by running: sudo
passwd -u root
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408 [03:03:21] <mystified> Thanks guys for all your help
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410 [03:03:31] <awal1_> then you'll be able to log as root
(su , su - ...)
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412 [03:03:51] <mystified> awal1 will do now
413 [03:04:08] <mystified> Have not used deb for about 6yrs.
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415 [03:04:30] <awal1_> you can use sudo su / sudo su - and so
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417 [03:04:39] <themill> You probably want to add yourself to the
sudo group and then just use sudo.
418 [03:04:46] <awal1_> not mandatory enable root login
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427 [03:07:18] <mystified> what is the command to list pkg info I
wish to see if I have install nvidia-340
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434 [03:10:48] <awal1_> mystified: what you mean?
435 [03:11:30] <mystified> find pkg info of a specific pkg
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437 [03:12:22] <awal1_> apt-cache show pkgname or aptitude show
pkgname ?
438 [03:13:17] <awal1_> or man pkgname
439 [03:14:40] <mystified> I want to install nvida-340
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441 [03:16:13] <awal1_> , nvidia-340
442 [03:16:28] <awal1_> ,v nvidia-340
443 [03:16:29] <judd> No package named 'nvidia-340' was
found in amd64.
444 [03:17:23] <missmbob> mystified:
replaced-url
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447 [03:21:36] <mystified> thx awal1
448 [03:22:07] <missmbob> :P
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450 [03:22:50] <awal1_> :D
451 [03:23:07] <mystified> Installing through synaptic
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460 [03:33:04] <redrabbit> is there a way to automatically pick
yes/no answer on dpkg -i blue bg popup
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463 [03:33:40] <themill> redrabbit: that depends on what the
question is
464 [03:33:59] <redrabbit> i install a folder of .deb
465 [03:34:02] <themill> (or rather, yes there is, but how
depends on the question)
466 [03:34:07] <redrabbit> two of them ask me a YES/NO question
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468 [03:34:17] <redrabbit> one i want to answer yes, the other no
469 [03:34:27] <themill> It still depends on the question...
470 [03:34:42] <redrabbit> from a script id run 1 time on first
boot
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472 [03:35:40] <redrabbit> questions are, shoud installer
automatically restart services while installing > i want to
answer yes
473 [03:35:45] <redrabbit> default is no
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475 [03:35:55] <themill> which package is asking that?
476 [03:36:19] <redrabbit> question 2 is machanger asking the
usual stuff
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482 [03:38:25] <redrabbit> something like that
483 [03:38:25] <redrabbit>
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486 [03:39:26] <themill> redrabbit: so the package is libssl1.0.0
just as shown.
487 [03:39:29] <redrabbit> mhh apparently all i need is to set
DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
488 [03:39:31] <themill> dpkg: tell redrabbit about
debconf-set-selections
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490 [03:40:26] <themill> Yes, you need
DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, but you also need to set the value
for the question in adance
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492 [03:40:57] <redrabbit> its going to go for the default like
that right
493 [03:40:58] <redrabbit> ?
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496 [03:41:13] <redrabbit> i might try this
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498 [03:41:44] <themill> if debconf is run in non-interactive
mode, then your currently set value in the debconf database will be
used for that question
499 [03:42:03] <redrabbit> all right good to know
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504 [03:44:38] <themill> in fact, the
libraries/restart-without-asking debconf key might be even more
useful
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512 [03:51:20] <nohacker> Not only did russia manipulate the
elections, russia took over all media using indians working there
and is now absolutely manipulating the media by force. I am a
personal witness to this, because my blog is being suppressed:
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513 [03:51:36] <tomreyn> ^ spamming #ubuntu, too
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515 [03:51:48] <nohacker> ur russian?
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542 [04:12:19] <cereal_poster> happy new years guys!
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545 [04:12:37] <cereal_poster> year* correction
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550 [04:18:43] <efloid> someone posted this earlier in #newyears,
if you want to see the 2016 Holisecond frozen in time:
TZ='right/Europe/London' date
--date='@1483228826'
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555 [04:28:15] <tacocat> efloid: what's a holisecond?
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558 [04:29:05] <preaction> a holiday, but for a second
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562 [04:31:18] <efloid> ^^^
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569 [04:33:59] <echosystm> i'm using a debain box as a
router
570 [04:34:09] <echosystm> but some websites don't work and
i can't figure out why
571 [04:34:27] <echosystm> i can ping them, so DNS is fine, but
nothing happens over tcp port 80
572 [04:34:33] <echosystm> any ideas?
573 [04:36:00] <echosystm> actually nvm i need a coffee before i
take this on >.<
574 [04:36:02] <echosystm> ciao
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605 [04:58:24] <jscoder> does anyone know what the purpose was of
these gnumach 486 images being included?
606 [05:00:07] <jscoder> I was doing a chroot install to a usb hd
and after I debootstrapped and looked for a kernel the only thing
coming up was gnumach. I of course did an apt-get update and found
the linux-image packages but the gnumach thing is news to me
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612 [05:06:46] <WindowsXPForever> efloid, Is there a country that
is changing their calendar?
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614 [05:07:13] <WindowsXPForever> I'm trying to install
memtest86 on squeeze (version 6) before upgrading the system
615 [05:07:38] <jscoder> heh
616 [05:08:06] <WindowsXPForever> but it won't install
because the servers no longer have the file
617 [05:09:28] <jscoder> WindowsXPForever: well, the good news
is, memtest86 only depends on debconf
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619 [05:09:57] <jscoder> which means of course that you could
pull any version, such as the one from jessie and it'd likely
install without problems
620 [05:10:23] <WindowsXPForever> good to know
621 [05:10:30] <WindowsXPForever> and grub-legacy?
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626 [05:11:39] <jscoder> WindowsXPForever: you know there are
archive mirrors right?
627 [05:11:59] <jscoder> and as for memtest86 I'm pretty
sure its not missing, it was never there to begin with
628 [05:12:11] <jscoder> its only recently that debian had a
memtest86 package
629 [05:13:11] <jscoder> WindowsXPForever:
replaced-url
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631 [05:14:17] <WindowsXPForever> just found that thanks
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635 [05:15:06] <jscoder> yeah, and grub back then was all
"legacy" as in not grub2 if I recall, but there is a
grub-legacy package that is 0.97 as opposed to 0.98 or whatever
636 [05:15:40] <jscoder> erm actually it was 1.98, so hmm.. maybe
it was grub2..
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638 [05:18:00] <jscoder> WindowsXPForever: and for the record I
find most widely celebrated holidays overrated.
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666 [05:40:55] <jscoder> hmm.. try as I might, I cannot figure
this damn grub out. it does too much automagically and doesn't
seem to document any way of telling it what you actually want done
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669 [05:43:14] <jscoder> I'm running jessie off a thumbdrive
and installing jessie onto usb hdd, and I just want to install the
bootloader on the hdd only with the entries for the os ON THAT drive
using UUIDs so it'll boot properly no matter how its attached
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678 [05:51:26] <pfred1> I got a plate of chips so now it's a
party!
679 [05:51:54] <pfred1> whoops wrong channel
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681 [05:52:34] <jscoder> heh. You gotta have dip for it to be a
party
682 [05:53:05] <jscoder> ENODIP: Fail!
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684 [05:55:21] <jscoder> I'm having a towlie moment here
myself <towlie>I have no idea what's going
on</towlie>.. if I sat here all week I probably still
won't understand how to use grub. I should have just installed
using debian-installer and let it f' this up.
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687 [05:57:39] <jscoder> they need to make one of those for
dummies books for grub
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698 [06:07:57] <mrrhq-mobile> jscoder: Is it not working and just
sending you to a rescue shell?
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722 [06:13:55] <jscoder> mrrhq-mobile: no, I just have no clue
how to even install it
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726 [06:14:26] <mrrhq-mobile> grub-install /dev/sda
727 [06:14:32] <jscoder> mrrhq-mobile: I don't know if I
should bind mount /dev/ and do it in the chroot or what
728 [06:14:32] <mrrhq-mobile> Usually.
729 [06:14:57] <mrrhq-mobile> I'd do it from a live usb/cd.
730 [06:15:14] <jscoder> mrrhq-mobile: yeah well this isn't
usually.. sda is a windows drive internal, sdb is the thumbdrive
I'm running lenny from now, and sdc is the usb hdd I'm
installing to
731 [06:15:25] <jscoder> I don't want any of sda or sdb in
the bootloader
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733 [06:15:42] <jscoder> erm.. jessie not lenny
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735 [06:16:40] <mrrhq-mobile> Then just replace sda with sdc, and
tell your BIOS to boot from it, first.
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739 [06:18:51] <fuddie> happy gnu/year everybody!
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743 [06:20:30] <jscoder> wow, horrible pun
744 [06:21:07] <jscoder> besides it's still 2016 in that
world we watch on TV here in the US
745 [06:21:31] <fuddie> not for long
746 [06:21:31] <jscoder> otherwise known as the left coast,
california, hollywood.. etc
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748 [06:22:13] * jscoder sighs
749 [06:22:14] <fuddie> and the democractic people's
republic of California is only one
750 [06:22:36] <fuddie> there is also washington, home to
microsoft and street pooping
751 [06:22:43] <jscoder> heh
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753 [06:23:12] <fuddie> and oregon
754 [06:23:14] <fuddie> home of
755 [06:23:19] <fuddie> linus
756 [06:23:31] <fuddie> that is pretty much all we have though is
linus :(
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758 [06:23:41] <jscoder> san francisco and fellatio on the corner
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762 [06:24:53] <jscoder> anyhow. I still am clueless.
grub-install from inside the chroot is complaing it can't read
the /boot/grub/stage1 correctly
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766 [06:31:02] <jscoder> hmm.. well thats b.s. the first google
hit about the inode size.. said grub doesn't work on 256, the
thumbdrive I'm running on now also has 256 and it has a working
grub
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770 [06:34:30] * jscoder tries outside the chroot with the
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772 [06:35:57] <jscoder> hmm, good thing I'm not holding my
breath on that command.. i'd be dead
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774 [06:36:14] <jscoder> I think it may have worked though.
775 [06:36:41] <jscoder> I shall reboot and see I suppose
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783 [06:38:34] <introom> ,v click
784 [06:38:35] <judd> No package named 'click' was
found in amd64.
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788 [06:42:31] <jscoder> well, it did install grub, but it only
boots to the shell. so.. partial fail
789 [06:42:52] <jscoder> no grub menu
790 [06:43:25] * jscoder mounts the partitions back up
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793 [06:44:52] <Rusty1_> jscoder: got a live dvd / usb on hand?
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795 [06:46:07] <Rusty1_> jscoder: with apologies to no one :
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796 [06:46:22] <jscoder> Rusty1_: its not "live" but my
debian is installed to a thumbdrive
797 [06:46:29] <jscoder> I'm running on it now
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800 [06:47:32] <jscoder> I'm trying to set it up the same
way I have it on this thumbdrive on a hdd, but instead of using the
CD like I did to install this, I did it with debootstrap and chroot
801 [06:47:41] <Rusty1_> jscoder: see if that link (scroll down)
might help, never tried fron a chroot myself so can't help that
way
802 [06:48:42] <introom> does debian have package for 'click
modular router' ?
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804 [06:50:10] <jscoder> introom: doesn't appear so
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807 [06:52:17] <jscoder> introom: its got complicated lisc issues
which make it unlikely anyone would take it on
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818 [07:07:06] <jscoder> well, at least I figured out how to test
the grub without rebooting.. apparently virtualbox can access a raw
disk using a rubeish method
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821 [07:07:55] <jscoder> if at third you don't succeed, give
up.. thats what I say
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823 [07:08:52] <jscoder> goes along with "if at first you
don't succeed, try, try, again.." notice that saying only
says try, try.. inidicating 3 times
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830 [07:22:35] <linuxpc> can we rely on the page hit ranking in
distrowatch.com. And also, there is custom filter option to choose
distros based on certain specific needs like linux for beginners,
for old computers etc. Does it provide a reliable information to
decide on a particular distro?
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834 [07:23:40] <somiaj> linuxpc: you should probably be asking
questions about linux distros in ##linux, we suggest Debian here. As
for choice, I'd make it on your use case and not stats, only
way to know is to try one out or pick one and just take the time to
get use to it
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836 [07:25:19] <linuxpc> ok. But, that will take a lot of time in
downloading the images, burning them on pendrives and trying, if not
most of them, at least some of them.
837 [07:25:51] <linuxpc> I am just a beginner and in need of a
complete Linux OS.
838 [07:25:51] <somiaj> linuxpc: ##linux is a good place to
discuss various linux distros
839 [07:25:58] <vvande> you only need to download one :)
840 [07:26:21] <linuxpc> ok
841 [07:26:58] <somiaj> linuxpc: pick one and stick with it. But
if you want support from this channel, use debian and none of its
derivatives. Pick one, stick with it for a few months and take the
time to learn it
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843 [07:27:13] <vvande> linuxpc: Mint is very popular now and
does a lot of stuff out of the box. Good place to start. IMO
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848 [07:27:33] <introom> jscoder: lisc issue ?
849 [07:27:48] <linuxpc> can you suggest some websites like
distrowatch.com where I can get some info on various linux distros?
850 [07:28:01] <aging> just get Debian
851 [07:28:01] <jscoder> introom: its got a lot of moving parts
all under different liscenses, some of which will not clash well
with DFSG
852 [07:28:03] <vvande> distrowatch is fine
853 [07:28:10] <aging> =p
854 [07:28:26] <vvande> and aging is right - just get Debian :)
855 [07:28:43] <aging> it has everything you need to start and
learn with
856 [07:28:45] <MARPATdroid> My advice and how I learned, go to
the root of all the popular derivitives and use Debian
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858 [07:28:49] <aging> then add whatever you want
859 [07:28:54] <linuxpc> Debian suitable for a beginner?
860 [07:28:57] <aging> yes
861 [07:28:59] <vvande> yes
862 [07:29:07] <MARPATdroid> yes
863 [07:29:11] <aging> =)
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866 [07:29:26] <aging> i just installed Debian a week ago
867 [07:29:35] <aging> i learned more with it than any other
distro
868 [07:29:47] <aging> tried slackware, ubuntu, gentoo, red hat,
and then some
869 [07:29:47] <jscoder> linuxpc: I didn't start with
debian, but its where I ended up.. cause the first few I tried
sucked.. this was over 10 years ago. What sold me was reading the
social contract and why debian documents
870 [07:30:07] <MARPATdroid> then once you have Debian down,
build Arch. You learn a lot about how the inner workings of the
Linux kernel and such.
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872 [07:30:19] <jscoder> linuxpc: it's a binary distro with
a large and good support community, for those reasons its certainly
good for a beginner
873 [07:30:20] <linuxpc> I am using a debian testing based distro
called Sparky Linux now.
874 [07:30:28] <somiaj> anyways, this conversation is off topic
for #debian
875 [07:30:47] <aging> directing towards Debian tho
876 [07:30:48] <somiaj> linuxpc: do you have an actual Debian
support question?
877 [07:30:54] <aging> hah
878 [07:31:01] <aging> =O
879 [07:31:29] <linuxpc> will create a debian live usb and try it
today.
880 [07:31:46] <aging> yes, linuxpc, LXDE is a great window
environment
881 [07:32:08] <linuxpc> aging, ok.
882 [07:32:26] <jscoder> linuxpc:
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884 [07:33:08] <aging> ^ great read
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886 [07:33:33] <jscoder> the downside to debian's stability
and support is that its not as bleeding edge, security patches are
done, but shiny new upstream code could take a much longer to be
available.
887 [07:34:00] <jscoder> I personally prefer the larger more
knowledgable community and the stable software
888 [07:34:03] <aging>
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891 [07:34:12] <aging> my debian setup is shiny as heck!
892 [07:34:41] <somiaj> linuxpc: if you want to learn a distro,
just trying live images doesn't really give you a taste for it.
You have been asking this same question for a while now. Pick one,
install it and stick with it for a month or so and take time to
learn how the distro works. If you want help with learning Debian
this is a good channel, but this is not a chanel if you choose any
debian derivative or other distro.
893 [07:34:52] <aging> ^
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895 [07:35:05] <aging> x2^
896 [07:35:28] <aging> ...and back to my show...
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899 [07:36:02] <linuxpc> somiaj, ok.
900 [07:37:37] <linuxpc> buying a new laptop this week. Will
install Debian on it and try it.
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903 [07:38:57] <somiaj> linuxpc: it will take some effort and
time to learn how the os works and to configure it to fit your use
case. Debian has good support, but sometimes not always the nicest
defaults.
904 [07:39:15] <linuxpc> ok
905 [07:39:42] <somiaj> linuxpc: also be careful with new
hardware and debian, some other distros support bleeding edge
hardware better.
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907 [07:40:39] <linuxpc> I will be buying a laptop with latest
hardware on it.
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909 [07:41:07] <jscoder> laptops are a pain in general
910 [07:41:31] <MARPATdroid> laptops are why I keep a thumbdrive
of the non-free firmwares for Debian
911 [07:41:56] <jscoder> yeah even with the firmware, this T42p
has issues.. the ipw2100 is shotty
912 [07:43:30] <MARPATdroid> yeah I had problems with one of my
USB->serial connectors... ultimately saved time and effort and
bought ones I knew worked oob
913 [07:43:37] <jscoder> when it comes to laptops acer or toshiba
are probably the worst brands and thinkpad and macbook are probably
the best ones for all around solid hardware, but you never know what
you're gonna get in a damn laptop
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916 [07:43:51] <MARPATdroid> ^
917 [07:44:29] <jscoder> they should have a trial period for
laptops.. like vaccumes
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998 [09:27:20] <raziel> i broke debian.. :s
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1000 [09:28:02] <raziel> i had mounted lib and usr/lib to a jailed
folder.. but then a script i ran did the following
1001 [09:28:10] <raziel> Copying required shared library files:
1002 [09:28:11] <raziel> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: OK
1003 [09:28:28] <raziel> libacl.so.1: cp: error while loading
shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
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1005 [09:28:44] <raziel> any idea what i can do if anything.. i do
have a rescue mode i could get into.. but not sure what to do :s
1006 [09:29:40] <raziel> the script was a copy lib script
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1008 [09:30:06] <ph33r> Mount the partition with /usr/lib and
remove the mount to /usr/lib in /etc/fstab.
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1010 [09:30:14] <raziel> i originally did mount --bind /lib
/jail/folder/lib
1011 [09:30:18] <raziel> umount doesnt work anymore :P
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1013 [09:30:32] <raziel> umount: error while loading shared
libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory
1014 [09:30:48] <ph33r> Open /etc/fstab and comment the line with
that mount.
1015 [09:30:54] <raziel> so i use the rescue boot right?
1016 [09:31:08] <ph33r> That or a live cd.
1017 [09:31:10] <raziel> cause there is no way i can open any sort
of text editor in the current form :P
1018 [09:31:28] <raziel> ill use the rescue mode and see..
thanks:3
1019 [09:31:37] <ph33r> Then it looks like those are your options.
1020 [09:33:05] <raziel> doing a cold remote boot.. :"p
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1022 [09:36:26] <raziel> what exactly caused it to break out of
curiousity. am linux noob. i just know when it tried copying the
libraries to the mount it all broke.. and i guess there was no need
to copy any of the libraries to begin with:P
1023 [09:38:31] <raziel> looking at etc/fstab i dont see anything
out of the ordinary im in the rescue mode
1024 [09:38:49] <raziel> # <file system> <mount point>
<type> <options> <dump> <pass>
1025 [09:38:55] <raziel> /dev/sda1 / ext4
errors=remount-ro,relatime 0 1
1026 [09:39:09] <raziel> /dev/sda2 /home ext4 defaults,relatime 1
2
1027 [09:39:19] <raziel> i dont see the lib binding
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1031 [09:43:14] <ph33r> Did you mount the filesystem yet? Or are
you just looking at the bare bones system of rescue mode itself?
1032 [09:43:20] <raziel> oh lol
1033 [09:43:26] <raziel> that must be it :P lol
1034 [09:43:46] <raziel> let me try to mount the file system brb
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1036 [09:44:27] <raziel> ah totally right i was in the rescue
system -.- learning lol
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1039 [09:48:03] <raziel> while in /mountsda1/etc# i checked out
fstab but it looked normal
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1041 [09:48:07] <raziel> that's weird
1042 [09:48:58] <raziel> originally i used the command: mount
--bind /lib /jail/folder/lib
1043 [09:49:05] <raziel> and mount --bind /usr/lib
/jail/folder/usr/lib
1044 [09:49:23] <raziel> there's no way it unmounted when i
went into the rescue mode thing :P
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1046 [09:49:47] <ph33r> Maybe /etc/mtab?
1047 [09:49:56] <raziel> ah yes :3
1048 [09:49:58] <raziel> tons of stuff there
1049 [09:50:49] <raziel> but not the mounts
1050 [09:50:52] <raziel> maybe another file ?
1051 [09:51:12] <raziel> i am using debian 8 i think
1052 [09:51:23] <raziel> 64bit
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1054 [09:52:50] <raziel> btw when i navigate to: /jail/folder/lib
it's emptyu
1055 [09:52:57] <raziel> however lib has stuff in it
1056 [09:53:06] <ph33r> How did you set up this mount? If you just
set it from the command-line it shouldn't survive a reboot
unless in one of those two files or a custom start up script.
1057 [09:53:12] <raziel> oh
1058 [09:53:16] <raziel> yeah that's all i did
1059 [09:53:17] <raziel> via cli
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1061 [09:53:29] <raziel> i thought that was a permanent way to do
it though
1062 [09:53:41] <raziel> so u want me to reboot into the server
1063 [09:53:43] <raziel> and see if it works :P?
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1065 [09:54:05] <raziel> my other servers appear to keep these
mounts persistent through reboots
1066 [09:54:07] <ph33r> It should if you reboot outside of rescue
mode.
1067 [09:54:10] <raziel> ok
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1069 [09:54:40] <raziel> that explains why the /jail/folder/lib is
empty right? otherwise i'd see the contents of /lib
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1072 [09:55:42] <ph33r> Not sure I've seen a mount set up
wrong make the location show empty before too.
1073 [09:56:02] <raziel> well i think it all worked before the
copy of that file
1074 [09:56:12] <raziel> Copying required shared library files:
1075 [09:56:13] <raziel> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: OK
1076 [09:56:16] <raziel> is when everything broke :P
1077 [09:56:36] <raziel> i wasnt supposed to run that libcopy
script though is what i came to as a conclusion :s
1078 [09:56:42] <ph33r> See if you can open something in a text
editor now. You mentioned even that wouldn't work when this
started.
1079 [09:56:47] <raziel> yes nothing would
1080 [09:56:50] <raziel> i couldnt ls even
1081 [09:57:03] <raziel> ls works fine on the mount but im still
root@rescue
1082 [09:57:09] <raziel> u want me to boot back into debian right
:P
1083 [09:57:24] <ph33r> Yeah, reboot and give it a shot.
1084 [09:57:31] <raziel> ok ^^ thnx :3
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1087 [10:00:05] <raziel> OS
1088 [10:00:05] <raziel> Debian 8.4 stable (Jessie) (stable)
(64bits)
1089 [10:00:10] <raziel> it actually came back up gonna try to
login :P
1090 [10:01:22] <raziel> ah ok it didnt :s
1091 [10:01:59] <raziel> i think there is another location for
where it stores mount bind stuff maybe?
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1093 [10:04:41] <ph33r> Not that I'm aware of. However, it
would be possible that the script you ran made another start up
script somewhere within /etc/init.d/. You can try looking there and
maybe grepping the files for 'mount'. That's thing I
can think of off hand.
1094 [10:05:23] <raziel> oh ;s
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1096 [10:06:58] <raziel> yeah my other debian systems have the
same mount with bind but its not in either of those files
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1098 [10:07:57] <raziel> u want to look at it :P?
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1102 [10:15:01] <raziel> it's reinstalling the OS. i didnt
have anything important on the machine and hadnt ran anything on it
it seems
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1104 [10:15:55] <choice> Hello! My debian laptop can't run
youtube videos smoothly. What can I do?
1105 [10:16:38] <raziel> it would be cool to know how it broke and
how to reverse it :P
1106 [10:16:49] <raziel> i wont be mounting anything going fwd -.-
1107 [10:16:49] <raziel> lol
1108 [10:17:03] <SwedeMike> choice:
replaced-url
1109 [10:17:04] <raziel> that seems like a fail safe maybe
1110 [10:18:07] <SwedeMike> choice: ie your problem is most likely
that you're doing all the video decoding in CPU, so you need to
look into if there is something you can do on that front.
1111 [10:19:01] <choice> SwedeMike: I need to look into the CPU?
1112 [10:19:33] <SwedeMike> choice: no, you need to look into if
there is any way you can get video card de-coding of video to work
on your hardware.
1113 [10:21:26] <choice> SwedeMike: How can I make that?
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1116 [10:23:48] <SwedeMike> choice: I presume you didn't even
read the article I sent you?
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1128 [10:29:59] <choice> SwedeMike: It suggests to install
extensions. I don't want to do that.
1129 [10:30:05] <choice> I want to figure out what the problem is.
1130 [10:31:02] <SwedeMike> choice: so start looking into if this
is actually a high cpu problem, then look into hardware acceleration
options for youtube browsing. The solution will depend on lots of
things.
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1132 [10:31:34] <SwedeMike> (if high CPU is actually the problem
that is)
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1140 [10:34:23] <choice> "hardware acceleration options for
youtube browsing"?
1141 [10:35:08] <picknick> choice: firefox?
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1144 [10:35:43] <choice> picknick: Yes
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1150 [10:39:02] <picknick> choice: check about:config and see if
you have the right options enabled
replaced-url
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1152 [10:40:40] <choice> Hmm... So if FF doesn not support
hardware acceleration, I guess there is no way to make it run videos
smoothly.
1153 [10:41:27] <picknick> choice: it should work, but with
choppier video :p
1154 [10:41:44] <choice> Yeah, which sucks.
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1159 [10:45:19] <SwedeMike> choice: or just use lower resolution.
Have you actually checked if your CPU is at 100% while playing
video?
1160 [10:46:01] <choice> SwedeMike: Lower then 480p is no fun.
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1169 [10:51:48] <missmbob> is this flash or html5?
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1171 [10:52:41] <choice> Damn, I SOLVED IT! Setting this in
about:config to false makes video smooth: media.gmp-provider.enabled
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1176 [10:55:03] <SwedeMike> choice: I wouldn't call that a
solution, I would call that a workaround. But hey, if you only want
smooth video and don't care about anything else (like
understanding what this might make for your battery endurance), I
guess everything is fine.
1177 [10:55:24] <choice> I don't have a battery.
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1179 [10:55:48] <DoctorD90> Hapypy New Year!!
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1265 [11:48:26] <GNU\colossus> hi
1266 [11:48:42] <aging> hello
1267 [11:48:48] <GNU\colossus> just installed systemd-230 from
jessie backports on a box of mine; now the journal reports this
several times during bootup:
1268 [11:48:51] <GNU\colossus> "systemd[1]:
systemd-udevd.service: Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit
systemd-udevd.service is masked."
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1270 [11:49:08] <GNU\colossus> how can I find out why (and by
what/whom) that unit was masked?
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1276 [11:52:23] <GNU\colossus> hmm, might that be related to that
Debian machine being an LXC container?
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1301 [12:08:38] <Pipponzio> hey, I've patched a kernel and
now I want to change a line like this
<arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org> Is it refered to email or what?
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1304 [12:09:31] <tomassosk> Hi people I changed from lxde to mate
and I am solving issue of autostart application. I want ot autostart
pglgui --tray and it just doesnt work. :)
1305 [12:09:46] <tomassosk> I added it usually, there is
pgl.desktop in .config/autostart with exec = pglgui --tray
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1307 [12:10:03] <tomassosk> What I am doing wrong? Please help me.
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1310 [12:12:37] <tomassosk> If I run pgl.desktop manually it
works.
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1314 [12:14:58] <n4dir> i don't know mate and i hardly use
autostart apps. I would probably try to do it via gui, the way
described here:
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1316 [12:15:29] <n4dir> and i would make sure that mate uses
.config/autostart to autostart, and not a different folder (say:
.config/mate/autostart or such).
1317 [12:15:40] <n4dir> not much, that's all i can offer.
good luck
1318 [12:16:23] <n4dir> many know mate, but it is a time not many
will be in IRC, i guess. Try again later.
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1321 [12:19:36] <tomassosk> I found other autostarted apps in
.config/autostart. Only this one isnt properly working.
1322 [12:20:02] <n4dir> ah, i see. Odd
1323 [12:20:47] <n4dir> what about trying the gui way?
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1325 [12:21:24] <tomassosk> Maybe it is something specific. Exec
without -- tray works. The gui way gave me same results.
1326 [12:22:09] <n4dir> i guess your best bet is someone who uses
mate (or at least knows it). Like said: good luck
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1328 [12:25:00] <tomassosk> Thx anyway. I never thought that I
will solve such banality :)
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1330 [12:26:37] <n4dir> let's fix this quickly and then at it
for hours: i love such problems (foam at mouth and all that) :-)
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1333 [12:29:23] <missmbob> tomreyn: tried using quotes in exec?
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1335 [12:29:50] <missmbob> damn
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1351 [12:45:54] <lusTiger> Question please! New to Linux.
Can't take MS anymore. Have installed and tested multiple
distributions last week. Know I know what I want: A ROCK SOLID
STABLE OS (like Debian-Stable) but with the latest Programs (like
Firefox 50.1) and I accept if individual programs are not THAAAT
stable. So: Which distro??? Thanks!
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1354 [12:47:31] <n4dir> You either have this or you have that. You
must make up your mind what you want.
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1356 [12:48:34] <lusTiger> that's what i don't get! Look
at windows 7! old, but stable! and indivdiual programs may be not
stable, which is I'd accept!
1357 [12:48:36] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: You want a stable distro
that's not stable. Stable means it changes rarely, and is
dated, bleeding edge would imply unstable.
1358 [12:48:55] <n4dir> windows 7 might be stable, but it is not
rock solid stable.
1359 [12:49:03] <lusTiger> no i just want the OS to be stable!
1360 [12:49:16] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: Nobody's preventing you
from installing Firefox 50.1.0 on Debian Stable, though.
1361 [12:49:19] <lusTiger> i accept that individual programs may
not be stable, but I want the latest
1362 [12:49:35] <lusTiger> hexnewbie, how would i do that?
synaptic always choses automatically one version for me
1363 [12:49:49] <n4dir> at least in debian there is no clear
distinction between the OS and the applications, and sure not
regarding packagemanagement.
1364 [12:49:51] <hexnewbie> I'm using bleeding edge Seamonkey
2.46 on Debian just fine. (And regretting it. Who in their right
mind would use Mozilla's latest crap?)
1365 [12:50:01] <n4dir> I doubt it is like that in any linux
distro, but don't know
1366 [12:50:05] <n4dir> so much of them
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1369 [12:50:33] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: You go to the web site,
download it and extract it. It then works. (Haven't done with
with Firefox in particular, but other Mozilla ones work like that)
1370 [12:50:54] <n4dir> If you are new to linux, first learn how
to use linux, and mainly the packagemanagement of the distro you
use. This will take at least half a year, probably more
1371 [12:50:55] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: Firefox isn't good
(anymore)?
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1374 [12:51:31] <lusTiger> n4dir ok i really have to go deep into
that
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1376 [12:51:59] <n4dir> Well: you speak to the wrong guy, me. I
don't care about software versions at all :-)
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1378 [12:52:13] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: I stopped using it years ago
when it become too slow to use. Switched to SeaMonkey. Now SeaMonkey
merged new Firefox code, and it's triply slow. Debian's
firefox-esr is 10-20 times faster than whatever's coming in the
newer ones.
1379 [12:52:30] <hexnewbie> Er, that was a mistake. 100-200 or
possibly thousands of times faster
1380 [12:52:34] <n4dir> firefox 3.5 was good , imho :-)
1381 [12:52:47] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: thanks! I'v gote
firefox-esr!:):)
1382 [12:53:06] <lusTiger> but I can't stream
Amazon-Videos....... wtf....
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1384 [12:53:39] <n4dir> A good combination between pretty stable,
rock solid, and new software, is debian stable with stable
backports. But am not sure if that is really the latest version of
the programs to be found there.
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1386 [12:53:41] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: Don't take me
literally, the speed difference is only noticable when using X over
a network. Locally, on the same computer, the new ones is
(supposedly) faster - not that you can know the difference
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1389 [12:54:44] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: got u
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1394 [12:56:06] <lusTiger> but i still don't get: is there no
distro offering "old, stable OS" and "latest
programs", of course with the disadvantage that individual
programs/ functions may not be stable?
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1396 [12:56:43] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: But that's an example
of what stable distros gives you. Mozilla degraded remote X at least
twice in recent years, and has degraded/changed a number of other
things - while improving others. A stable distribution comes with
some promise things won't changed (unfortunately, not
guaranteed for Firefox, as backporting fixes is difficult, and
Debian is tracking Firefox ESR instead - but it's still stabler
than using newest regular
1397 [12:56:43] <hexnewbie> Firefox)
1398 [12:57:20] <hexnewbie> s/changed/change unexpectedly and
often/
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1403 [12:58:34] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: You can use Debian
jessie-backports for individual programs. Firefox is not available
there (yet?), which is why I didn't recommend it initially
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1405 [12:59:11] <n4dir> well: you could still backport from
testing or unstable yourself.
1406 [12:59:21] <Vizva> why is the virtualbox version old like
this, someone know a source where i can read about?
1407 [13:00:04] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: The OS is made of programs,
there isn't a clear distinction. Even if there was, maintaining
such unusual mix would take a lot of effort and would end up
unstable anyway.
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1409 [13:00:11] <lusTiger> n4dir: i don't know what
backporting is, but I i got u, i first have to learn packet
management
1410 [13:00:23] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: You can also use a chroot
with Debian Testing.
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1413 [13:00:57] <n4dir> lusTiger: in short, and half wrong, it
means that you compile packages which are already in testing or sid
or both to get newer versions
1414 [13:01:25] <hexnewbie> Vizva: VirtualBox 5.1.8 is in
jessie-backports
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1416 [13:01:29] <n4dir> as all the configuration has already been
done, this is a rather painless process (as compared to package
software which isn't already in debian)
1417 [13:01:38] <Vizva> hexnewbie thx
1418 [13:02:20] <flow_> Hello, how do I generate an xorg config
file? when I run Xorg -configure it does not run succesfully
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1420 [13:02:42] <n4dir> most of the time, rather often, you get
away with using the stable-backports, which means you have to do
nothing, just the usual binary installation of a newer version
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1423 [13:03:00] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: so then linux is completely
different than windows? because in windows there is a clear
distinction between OS and programs, and it works, doesn't it?
1424 [13:03:39] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: Windows doesn't have
all the programs in it coming with the OS.
1425 [13:03:48] <Vizva> hexnewbie i have this in my sources but
dont find it
1426 [13:04:22] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: Neither does Debian prevent
you from installing programs that do not come with it (alas, it can
be slightly more complicated at times)
1427 [13:04:44] <hexnewbie> Vizva: apt-get -t jessie-backports -V
install virtualbox-qt
1428 [13:04:46] <Vizva> main cintrib non-free
1429 [13:04:51] <n4dir> lusTiger: in linux there often is a
different layer: upstream software offers the software (duh), the
packagers make sure the software suits well to the general approach
of that certain distro
1430 [13:04:59] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: ok, so i can use firefox
50.1 in my debian 8.6?
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1432 [13:05:08] <n4dir> which should make sure that it is stable,
that it is safe, etc.
1433 [13:05:17] <hexnewbie> Vizva: Also if you actually spelled
that c*i*ntrib, it won't work, of course :)
1434 [13:05:22] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: ok, i just have to find out
how (but don't try to explain, have to learn the packet
management basics on youtube)
1435 [13:05:31] <n4dir> that it gets upgraded regularly . None of
that you have in Windows. I guess
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1437 [13:05:33] <Vizva> hexnewbie it was a typo
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1440 [13:05:47] <Vizva> but why i dont find it in synaptic
1441 [13:05:57] * hexnewbie doesn't know what synaptic is
1442 [13:06:05] <Vizva> your solution seems to work
1443 [13:06:16] <Vizva> its a package manager
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1445 [13:06:42] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: I'm not sure if Firefox
custom downloads provide a .deb. If they don't, it won't
involve package management at all
1446 [13:08:01] <lusTiger> hexnewbie: you mean "if they
DO", right?
1447 [13:08:02] <Vizva> hexnewbie your solution work but i need
know why i cant find some program in the package manger list
1448 [13:08:13] <Vizva> manager
1449 [13:08:15] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: It's a .tar.bz2 that
you extract, and can then run.
1450 [13:08:17] <picknick> isn't the latest firefox in
backports like always?
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1453 [13:09:09] * hexnewbie forgot about mozilla.debian.net
1454 [13:09:21] * picknick is stunned
1455 [13:09:40] <hexnewbie> lusTiger: ^^ check out the repo
picknick mentioned
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1459 [13:10:09] <lusTiger> picknick: thx for the link
1460 [13:10:24] <yellow88999> I thought my trackball was unplugged
but it wasn't.
1461 [13:10:29] <yellow88999> It emits non-visible laser.
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1463 [13:10:36] <yellow88999> So I was cleaning it while looking
directly at the laser.
1464 [13:10:42] <yellow88999> About 30 seconds.
1465 [13:10:46] <yellow88999> I couldn't tell it was on.
1466 [13:10:52] <yellow88999> Now my eyesight is degraded.
1467 [13:12:09] <yellow88999> It says it's optical
technology.
1468 [13:12:17] <hexnewbie> yellow88999: We all hope for you
it's not permanent (hoping they wouldn't sell it
otherwise)
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1470 [13:13:02] <lusTiger> yello88999: which trackball was it?
(Modell?)
1471 [13:13:03] <yellow88999> What kind of optical beam would be
invisible to the human eye?
1472 [13:13:09] <yellow88999> Marbleman Trackball
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1474 [13:13:30] <lusTiger> yellow88999: that's common with
many industry lasers! you don't see it! very dangerous!
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1476 [13:13:58] <hexnewbie> The majority of optical beams are,
actually, invisible.
1477 [13:14:01] <cybrNaut> wow, sorry to hear that yellow88999
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1479 [13:14:32] <cybrNaut> did you buy it in a 3rd world country?
I can't believe something like that would get on the shelf
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1481 [13:15:13] <yellow88999> "The laser warning did get me
scared though. I didn't know it used laser to detect the
trackball movement, I had the impression that they used the usual
optical LED/CMOS combination."
1482 [13:15:31] <yellow88999> that's from a review to the
product on Amazon.
1483 [13:16:30] <cybrNaut> don't let it go.. sue the
incompetent morons (Marbleman and Amazon both)
1484 [13:16:41] <yellow88999> It's a Logitech Marbleman
Trackball. It says: Sensor technology: Optical
1485 [13:16:42] <yellow88999> Sensor Resolution: 300
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1487 [13:17:21] <yellow88999> I should not have been looking at
the sensory component inside the unit with it turned on.
1488 [13:17:39] <yellow88999> I unplugged the wrong plug and
didn't realize it until after I went to type on my keyboard.
1489 [13:17:45] <yellow88999> I had unplugged my keyboard, not the
trackbvall.
1490 [13:17:46] <cybrNaut> actually, they should not have sold you
something that puts you in danger like that
1491 [13:18:02] <hexnewbie> yellow88999: You opened the case?
1492 [13:18:18] <yellow88999> I pulled out the marble trackball to
clean the sensor inside.
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1494 [13:18:36] <cybrNaut> that's normal maintenance it
sounds like
1495 [13:18:54] <yellow88999>
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1496 [13:18:56] <cybrNaut> which means they have no expectation
that the ball sufficiently protect users eyes
1497 [13:19:24] <cybrNaut> oh shit.. i have that one
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1499 [13:19:40] <cybrNaut> but i never use it
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1501 [13:19:51] <yellow88999> cybrNaut, it's common sense not
to pull out the ball and clean inside without unplugging the unit.
1502 [13:19:57] <yellow88999> But I unplugged the wrong device.
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1504 [13:20:13] <cybrNaut> yellow88999: not really
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1506 [13:20:48] <yellow88999> how do I find out which exact
technology is used in this model?
1507 [13:20:58] <yellow88999> Like I say, the LED/laser is totally
invisible.
1508 [13:21:04] <cybrNaut> some ppl may know that, but it's
wrong to assume 100% of consumers know that, and also that 100% of
consumers will not pull the wrong plug
1509 [13:21:48] <cybrNaut> that's a serious fucking hazard,
and you have a /duty/ to sue their asses off, so that no one else is
hurt
1510 [13:21:55] <lusTiger> Experts say: 1) Symptoms and vision
will probably improve over time! 2) The conservative approach would
be to treat with oral NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs)
such as ibuprofen or indomethcin. 2) Treatment should begin after
the injury, ideally within the first day or two. 4) Surgery should
be reserved for more complicated cases.
1511 [13:22:43] <lusTiger> Full info:
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1512 [13:22:55] <yellow88999> But laser pointers are visible
light.
1513 [13:23:01] <lusTiger> Basic message: Begin treatment within 2
days!
1514 [13:23:06] <yellow88999> You naturally recoil when you see
one in your eye.
1515 [13:23:15] <yellow88999> With non-visible lasers you
don't know you're looking at anything hazardous.
1516 [13:23:24] <cybrNaut> i know someone who burned their whole
retina on a laser, both eyes, and is permanently blind for life
1517 [13:23:36] <yellow88999> cybrNaut, Which laser?
1518 [13:24:06] <cybrNaut> yellow88999: fortunately not these
consumer lasers.. he was a laser physicist and had an accident in
the lab
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1520 [13:24:50] <yellow88999> Can you find out which exact
technology is used in this Marbleman Trackball?
1521 [13:24:53] <cybrNaut> in his case, the laser was invisible,
but the safety measure that shows him where it's pointing
broke, so he thought it was pointing somewhere else, and got a
direct shot
1522 [13:25:08] <yellow88999> Wow.
1523 [13:25:20] <yellow88999> See, the invisible lasers can be the
worst because of that.
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1525 [13:25:38] <yellow88999> It seems to me that invisible lasers
should never be used in consumer devices.
1526 [13:25:53] <cybrNaut> it wiped out one eye first, and then he
naturally turned his head to try to see what was going on, and when
he turned his head the other eye got wiped out
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1528 [13:26:16] <cybrNaut> he was instantly blind
1529 [13:26:26] <yellow88999> so he sees nothing ever since?
1530 [13:26:43] <yellow88999> i still see, but my vision
definitely degraded.
1531 [13:27:24] <cybrNaut> that's right.. i don't know
him personally.. friend of a friend, but I heard he will never
recover. Although since I heard that, I've also heard of retina
transplants using a retina from a cadaver
1532 [13:27:27] <lusTiger> yellow88999: did you read that
treatment is possible and shoot start EARLY?
1533 [13:27:43] <lusTiger> *...and SHOULD start...
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1535 [13:27:53] <cybrNaut> so i don't know why in his case he
wouldn't be able to get a transplant
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1537 [13:28:17] <yellow88999> lusTiger, With NSAIDs?
1538 [13:28:45] <yellow88999> “We´ve turned off the
red light on these optical mice and replaced it with an invisible
laser that will change the industry,” said David Henry,
Logitech senior vice president of the Control Devices Business Unit.
“Laser will eventually make the optical mice of today
obsolete. With laser technology, mice will see more microscopic
detail. The nature of laser light gives mice the ability to track
with amazing accuracy on more surfaces wit
1539 [13:28:46] <yellow88999> h more responsiveness than ever
before.”
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1541 [13:28:53] <lusTiger> yellow88999 that's just ONE of
many treatments!
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1543 [13:29:27] <cybrNaut> i've heard that laser pointer will
burn a hole in the retina, but it's not a total disaster
because the brain automatically can fill in the missing data
1544 [13:30:37] <cybrNaut> i don't see why they cannot have a
phony red LED next to the real laser, for safety
1545 [13:30:42] <yellow88999> " It seems that the laser light
is invisible to human sight, yet can still capture 5.8 megapixels of
surface data per second. "
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1547 [13:30:47] <yellow88999> How powerful are these lasers?
1548 [13:30:57] <d1z> guys some dude is asking me to do a custom
compile of latest Qt + Qt Creator against the libraries of some
debian wheezy arm distro. It's for an embedded linux device
that's listening on his network. Could I be encountering any
conflicts in doing this? I know the standard procedure for compiling
source code against existing libs, but I wonder if there's
anything else to consider that may cause me delays. I
1549 [13:30:59] <d1z> don't know how large the source code is
nor how long it will take to compile it but I'm damn sure it
will be a lot faster than compiling X in openbsd in a celeron 1.3GHz
256MB RAM which ~10 years ago took ~18 hours iirc
1550 [13:31:30] <Vizva> hexnewbie i ask that in forum
1551 [13:31:42] <lusTiger> yellow88999: please see a eye doctor
tomorrow. at least because you will FEEL better because you tried
everything.
1552 [13:32:06] <d1z> anyway, is there anything that might stop me
from building latest Qt + QtCreator in some embeded debian wheezy
arm device?
1553 [13:32:10] <cybrNaut> an asshole targetted my eye w/ a laser
once, and I notice no damage.. but I wonder if my brain is
correcting for damage
1554 [13:32:20] <lusTiger> yellow88999: but we have indication
that treatment is possible and should start early - therefore
definitely see an eye dcotor.
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1558 [13:34:20] <cybrNaut> indeed.. see the doctor asap, and then
see a lawyer
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1560 [13:34:33] <cybrNaut> (for everyone's sake)
1561 [13:35:17] <cybrNaut> b/c even if you recover, the product
still may have done permanent damage that your brain is correcting
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1573 [13:42:55] <yellow88999> After picking it up from the
mouse-pad (about 2-3 cm), the beam was shining continuously for
about 3 seconds and after that point it started to flash
periodically. Then i lift it up some more (about 15 cm and holded it
there) and again having the camera facing down at the mouse-pad. The
flashing beam was still there on the mouse-pad!! Which means that
the mouse does not stops flashing the laser beam. After that i gave
it some more lift! (about 30 cm now)
1574 [13:42:55] <yellow88999> and again i could capture the
flashing laser beam on the mouse-pad!!
1575 [13:43:02] <yellow88999>
replaced-url
1576 [13:43:11] <yellow88999> So it's not just my trackball.
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1586 [13:46:26] <yellow88999> But if this is so why doesn't
my trackball work when I lift up the ball? It works only when the
ball is seated down.
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1594 [13:49:53] <laughingtiger> tab key not working with mplayer,
only when the file name has a mkv, or avi, if you rename a video
file to like abc, tab won't work, pls help. thanks.
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1596 [13:49:58] <cybrNaut> even if it were just a defect in your
device, logitec has some responsbility in quality control
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1598 [13:51:01] <cybrNaut> logitec could easily have a robot that
removes the trackball, and a CCD could automatically trigger an
alarm if a beam appears
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1609 [13:55:41] <laughingtiger> so I have to always name a video
file with mkv or so at the tail. otherwise tab key won't work
with mplayer.
1610 [13:56:19] <laughingtiger> anyone with any ideas what causes
this? thank you very much
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1612 [13:58:13] <laughingtiger> let me do a reboot. thank you guys
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1615 [13:58:19] <nkuttler> laughingtiger: bash-completion likely..
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1619 [14:04:27] <n4dir> wondering if using a regex (glob?) would
be an acceptable workaround.
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1621 [14:05:19] <cybrNaut> i've seen that trackball pop out
when it falls on the floor. So theoretically a pet could knock the
logitec off the desk while it's on, and injure the person who
picks it up.
1622 [14:05:29] <n4dir> doesn't answer why the tab-completion
doesn't work, of course
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1625 [14:06:32] <cybrNaut> could also blind the pet
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1635 [14:12:45] <Vizva> hexnewbie Ok i found it now its a config
thing
1636 [14:12:45] <Vizva> i change in
1637 [14:12:45] <Vizva> synaptic ---- Distribution prefer
jessie-backports
1638 [14:12:45] <Vizva> Vizva
1639 [14:12:45] <Vizva>
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1646 [14:13:15] <Vizva> sorry
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1658 [14:19:12] * cybrNaut might be a good time to short Logitech stock
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1672 [14:23:37] <newcoder> Is iceweasel removed from debian
jessie?
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1681 [14:31:51] <ompaul> newcoder: you will find it has been
replaced with firefox-esr which is what the nice people in Debian
And Mozilla came to agreement upon
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1683 [14:33:48] <julius> hi
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1685 [14:34:40] <julius> my resolv.conf file keeps resetting
itself, but im not running Network Manager or dhclient and i got
this in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.178.215 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.178.1
1686 [14:34:45] <julius> (with newlines)
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1745 [15:18:39] <ikus060> Hello, May anyone explain to me what is
this error message: blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector
64910720. I do understand it's an issue with my disk sdc, but
is it a communication error or a probme with the disk ?
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1748 [15:20:30] <julius> ikus060, the disk is dying
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1751 [15:20:42] <julius> probably...get your data off it and get a
new one
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1753 [15:21:07] <julius> ikus060, could be cable...but i highly
recommendate to backup now
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1755 [15:23:04] <ikus060> julius: Any easy way to confirm the disk
is failing ^
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1760 [15:24:11] <hubot> Hi!
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1773 [15:34:36] <ompaul> ikus060: read the message you got, it
will tell you that the disk is failing!
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1776 [15:36:47] <ikus060> ompaul: Reading more and more about it,
it seams to be a software issue cause by the disk spinning down...
1777 [15:36:51] <ikus060>
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1780 [15:39:33] <ompaul> ikus060: you know, if you read random
links around the internet and search for this string
blk_update_request: I/O error, dev
1781 [15:39:46] <ompaul> you will find many cases that do not
agree with you
1782 [15:39:55] <ompaul> YMMV have fun
1783 [15:40:06] <ompaul> oh and I wonder how good are your
backups?
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1785 [15:40:47] <fireant> io error is frequently fs related
1786 [15:40:53] <fireant> not hardware
1787 [15:41:08] <fireant> specially with new fs like btrfs
1788 [15:41:49] <dtonal> hi, i reinstalled my debian completly.
before that i naver had problems with sound, but now i cant hear
anything :/ i can see a "built-in audio analog stereo"
device under sound configuration. but if i play anything in browser
or vlc there is no soundoutput. there is no errormessage in vlc or
something. user is allready in the audio group. i did installation
from the same debian image as before. can somebody
1789 [15:41:50] <fireant> ikus060: which type of drive magnetic?
1790 [15:41:52] <dtonal> give me an advise what to do to get more
informations about my problems? :) thx
1791 [15:42:44] <ikus060> fireant: the disks are HDD, not SDD
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1793 [15:43:16] <ompaul> mtbf 5 years
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1813 [15:54:01] <fireant> ikus060: to test hd do smartctl -a
/dev/sdc | less and check if this passed
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1817 [15:55:27] <ENNNI8901> Should my tablet camera pick up
non-visible laser light?
1818 [15:55:37] <bardkorren> Hi all. I'm on Jessie and when
I'm trying to use sudo I get a Segmentation Fault. I have some
(very short) logs here. Can anyone who knows about strace see if
something an be found that indicates the actual problem?
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1821 [15:56:15] <bolt> ENNNI8901: some, yes
1822 [15:56:26] <ENNNI8901> bolt, Why do you say some vs all?
1823 [15:56:42] <SynrGy> but off-topic for here. this is the
debian support channel. join #debian-offtopic
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1825 [15:57:05] <ENNNI8901> ----> now talking in
##debian-offtopic
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1827 [15:57:27] <SynrGy> ENNNI8901: i said #debian-offtopic
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1829 [15:59:37] <stoned> ENNNI8901: probably ##hardware
1830 [15:59:48] <stoned> if you are discussing tablet hardware or
any hardware or maybe ##electronics
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1834 [16:02:26] <linuxpc> how to change the time settings on
debian lxde to show time in 12 hr format?
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1851 [16:15:52] <Hanumaan> trying to run cronjobs ... tried in
crontab -e and also /etc/crontab but with both of them jobs are not
running .. how to check further?
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1856 [16:16:40] <dvs> Hanumaan, /var/log/cron?
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1860 [16:17:12] <Hanumaan> dvs, there is no file /var/log/cron
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1862 [16:17:32] <dvs> Hanumaan, /var/log/cron.log
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1864 [16:17:47] <Hanumaan> dvs, also not there ..
1865 [16:17:54] <dvs> ???
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1867 [16:18:03] <dvs> should be
1868 [16:19:35] <Hanumaan> dvs, both are not there .replaced-url
1869 [16:19:49] <ENNNI8901> Anyone got a link to the manual for
the Logitech Marbleman Trackball?
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1873 [16:22:09] <Hanumaan> dvs, but there is cron info in syslog
not sure how far it is useful :
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1876 [16:23:03] <ENNNI8901> Trackman Marble Mouse
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1882 [16:25:31] <Elirips> Is there any recommendation whether to
prefer apt or aptitude, or doesnt it matter at all (except for
personal reasons)?
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1884 [16:26:55] <n4dir> in general rather personal reasons.
aptitude can be more helpful in messed up situations (but i think
nowadays you could usually use apt-get and make use of aptitude in
such situations). Elirips
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1886 [16:26:59] <Elirips> and can it result in problems if both
are used? or do they share the database with information what was
intalled from where?
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1888 [16:27:31] <ytrezq> Hello, how to convert a RUNPATH section
section into an RPATH one in the case of an already compiled elf
binary ?
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1891 [16:28:47] <n4dir> Elirips: back in the days it was recommend
to not mix them, never ever, if i recall correct. But that changed a
couple of years ago. As far i know, don't rely on me
1892 [16:29:19] <Elirips> n4dir: thanks for the info. Yes, I
remembered that too, now I noticed that for example they seem to
share settings like /etc/apt/preferences
1893 [16:30:17] <n4dir> Elirips: regarding such questions
sometimes some people say this, some say that. I for one
wouldn't worry much if i would use aptitude now and then. In
general i stick to one tool though.
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1895 [16:30:43] <n4dir> iow: i only gave you *my opinion. Compare
that with other opinions you will get, and make your choice
1896 [16:31:11] <SynrGy> !apt myths
1897 [16:31:11] <dpkg> Myths about APT never seem to die, the
principal one being you can't mix using different APT
front-ends like apt-get and aptitude. This is false. If you need
further convincing, see
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1898 [16:31:41] <n4dir> well: i guess the bot is a reliable
source, more or less.
1899 [16:32:38] <Elirips> hail to the bot :) thanks for the links
1900 [16:33:09] <Elirips> but
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1901 [16:33:26] <SynrGy> "a couple of years ago" is
inaccurate. this article is 5 years old, and even then it had been a
while since that was true
1902 [16:33:41] <SynrGy> the first one
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1904 [16:34:22] <n4dir> when i started using debian, round the
lines of 2007, it was already told me it wasn't an issue
anymore
1905 [16:34:57] <Elirips> i first used debian woody, I think then
only apt-get existed
1906 [16:35:06] <Elirips> then aptitude was the "better
apt-get"
1907 [16:35:17] <Elirips> now in testing aptitude isnt installed
by default :)
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1920 [16:43:23] <SynrGy> Elirips: i prefer apt for daily use. but
i find certain aptitude features very useful. therefore, i use
aptitude whenever needed for those things.
1921 [16:44:09] <SynrGy> then again, i'm a testing/unstable
user. that probably slants me for the less-frustrating user
experience managing upgrades in that environment with apt instead of
aptitude. ymmv
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1923 [16:44:33] <SynrGy> if i were purely a stable user, i might
choose differently.
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1927 [16:48:20] <stoned> stable, apt here
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1961 [17:05:10] <likcoras_> Hi, the 'passmenu' script
included in the 'pass' package has a line like this:
`xdotool - <<<"type --clearmodifiers -- $(pass show
"$password" | head -n 1)"`. Problem is, the password
returned by `pass show "$password"` sometimes starts with
a '$', and bash seems to expand it to an empty string. How
can I avoid this?
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1968 [17:08:47] <likcoras_> Is there any specific reason that it
is doing <<<? would changing the above line to `xdotool
type --clearmodifiers -- $(pass show "$password" | head -n
1` break anything?
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1978 [17:13:01] <likcoras_> Oh, spaces inside the password would
break. eh. How would I do it so that the above line doesn't
break on specific inputs?
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1981 [17:13:46] <WindowsXPForever> I'm using debian 6
(squeeze) but I don't have the command dist-upgrade
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1984 [17:15:21] <likcoras_> apt-get dist-upgrade?
1985 [17:15:23] <vectr0n> WindowsXPForever, try: apt-get
dist-upgrade
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1988 [17:16:35] <WindowsXPForever> ok ... I wonder if my system is
too old to install new packages
1989 [17:17:14] <WindowsXPForever> E: Unable to locate package
dist-upgrade
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1993 [17:18:13] <hexnewbie> WindowsXPForever: Third attempt:
apt-get dist-upgrade
1994 [17:19:04] <hexnewbie> You should probably go through wheezy
before going to jessie, if that's what you're doing.
1995 [17:19:10] <WindowsXPForever> thanks I typed install after
apt-get which was wrong
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1998 [17:19:34] <WindowsXPForever> It wasn't able to fetch
the archives
1999 [17:19:55] <hexnewbie> You should run ‘apt-get
update’ first
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2004 [17:22:26] <WindowsXPForever> Err
replaced-url
2005 [17:22:26] <WindowsXPForever> 404 Not Found [IP: 149.20.37.36
80]
2006 [17:22:34] <WindowsXPForever> I assume such an old system is
no longer supported?
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2008 [17:22:46] <WindowsXPForever> that's what happened when
I ran apt-get update
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2010 [17:23:01] <haze_> I have forgotten my password for freenode
how can i retrive it ? anyone know?
2011 [17:23:16] <vectr0n> haze_, /msg nickserv help sendpass
2012 [17:23:29] <vectr0n> try #freenode next time for freenode
issues
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2014 [17:24:46] <WindowsXPForever> haze_, #freenode is the channel
for help. You can probably get nickserv to send a recovery email.
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2016 [17:25:07] <haze_> thank you both, I'll try to recover
the pass
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2023 [17:29:47] <diamvw> Hello, i have some problem with 4.9.0-2
Kernel as it hangs randomly. Did anyone encounter some issues?
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2025 [17:30:12] <haze_> hmm I try to sendpass with nick Haze_ then
it gives me this message "this operation cannot be performed on
phaazon, because someone is logged in to it."
2026 [17:30:14] <diamvw> I am using XFCE desktop and suddenly
everything hangs
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2031 [17:31:25] <dtonal> I'm sorry that I have to repeat
myself, but i got disconnected... so maybe i didnt see your answers.
If you allready read my question, just ignore it :) : hi, i
reinstalled my debian completly. before that i naver had problems
with sound, but now i cant hear anything :/ i can see a
"built-in audio analog stereo" device under sound
configuration. but if i play anything in browser or vlc there is no
2032 [17:31:27] <dtonal> soundoutput. there is no errormessage in
vlc or something. user is allready in the audio group. i did
installation from the same debian image as before. can somebody give
me an advise what to do to get more informations about my problems?
:) thx
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2036 [17:32:52] <SynrGy> diamvw: that's not a debian kernel,
so we don't support that (unless you typoed and meant 4.8.0-2?
but in that case, i think you should be asking on #debian-next @
irc.oftc.net, as i assume you're running stretch)
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2042 [17:34:54] <diamvw> SynrGy: i did't know that. Thank you
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2050 [17:39:18] <msgctl> Anyone else just started having trouble
with enigmail on debian testing? gpg2 working fine.
2051 [17:39:24] <WindowsXPForever> I found this squeeze upgrade
information. IS it good or is it ripped off of an official source?
replaced-url
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2061 [17:43:44] <prussian> I mean, ya pretty much.
2062 [17:44:02] <prussian> just be prepared for dist-upgrades to
break everything
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2064 [17:44:22] <prussian> it probably WONT but it might
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2070 [17:48:12] <SynrGy> WindowsXPForever: the authoritative place
to look for upgrade instructions is the release notes for the
release you want to upgrade to. keep in mind that ancient releases
get archived, so some adjustment of your apt sources.list is needed
to point at the archive site
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2072 [17:49:22] <SynrGy> !tell WindowsXPForever about squeeze
release notes
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2074 [17:49:52] <SynrGy> oops, wrong release
2075 [17:49:59] <SynrGy> !tell WindowsXPForever about wheezy
release notes
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2109 [18:02:40] <newcoder> When I configure irssi, i see: Building
with DANE support ....... : no
2110 [18:02:43] <newcoder> How can I get Dane support, what is
that dane?
2111 [18:02:46] <littlebit> hi guys, I have debian running with 3
websites at home and I have a fritzbox as a dsl router that does
some kind of dns name resolution but does not do any aliasing, so
I'm thinking of setting dnsmasq. Does anyone have any experince
with setting up dnsmasq along with a fritzbox router?
2112 [18:02:47] <newcoder> Also this: Building with true color
support.. : no
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2155 [18:27:27] <T4ng10r> hi
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2157 [18:28:22] <T4ng10r> my GTX770 starts acting strange - in
text mode it replaced some of letters with white rectangles, in GUI
everything is pixalatad with huge pixel
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2160 [18:28:51] <T4ng10r> I hope it's not HW issue, but
rather some SW update/drivers/kernel
2161 [18:29:01] <thadtheman> So I have a package called foo. I can
do apt-get source foo to get the source code. I do not want to do
that. What I want to do is get the name of the "source
package" that foo is built from.\
2162 [18:29:09] <SynrGy> T4ng10r: which debian release?
2163 [18:29:14] <T4ng10r> testing
2164 [18:29:23] <T4ng10r> problem reported two weeks ago
2165 [18:29:42] <T4ng10r> when I removed card and used buil-in -
all works
2166 [18:29:48] <DK-HaZe> where does unix put installed programs
folders ? I need to find hexchat and its colour config file
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2172 [18:30:38] <SynrGy> T4ng10r: you might ask on #debian-next
@irc.oftc.net where we do testing/unstable support
2173 [18:31:19] <T4ng10r_> ok
2174 [18:31:20] <T4ng10r_> thx
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2176 [18:32:12] <SynrGy> DK-HaZe: various places. consult the doc
for each package, usually. also dpkg -L packagename
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2178 [18:32:25] <thadtheman> For example. The source for the
dolphin package is kde-basepps
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2180 [18:32:29] <SynrGy> DK-HaZe: however, sometimes config files
don't actually ship with the package and that command
won't show those
2181 [18:32:33] <missmbob> DK-HaZe: ~/.config/hexchat/hexchat.conf
ask #hexchat for more
2182 [18:32:41] <SynrGy> (i.e. are script or manually generated)
2183 [18:33:36] <DK-HaZe> SynrGy thats why I have a hard time
understanding where the different things are, I'm still running
windows mode in my head.. So I find it a bit complicated
2184 [18:33:46] <DK-HaZe> missmbob thank you
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2196 [18:36:22] <jvelasquez> hi. I tried to install the ubuntu
version of ibm-securegateway-client onto my Jessie. And now, I
can't seem to remove it because removing it requires
reinstallation, which I can't do because I don't have
"sudo", which I can't install because
ibm-securegateway-client needs to be reinstalled.
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2200 [18:37:22] <jvelasquez> nevermind. I got it. apt-get download
&& dpkg -i
2201 [18:37:26] <WindowsXPForever> Did the format for sources.list
change? I have deb
replaced-url
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2203 [18:37:41] <WindowsXPForever> but in the release notes for
wheezy it has forward slashes instead of spaces
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2205 [18:38:54] <missmbob> WindowsXPForever: still not done
trolling?
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2207 [18:39:51] <WindowsXPForever> missmbob, my nickname has
nothing to do with this channel just ignore it, just like you should
ignore the color of my skin.
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2209 [18:40:52] <WindowsXPForever> Unless you're racist or
you like attacking the person rather than the message
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2213 [18:41:46] <WindowsXPForever> nevermind my question I see the
format following an apt line has spaces at the end
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2219 [18:45:40] <WindowsXPForever> What is confusing me is these
two lines from sources.list on squeeze:
2220 [18:45:41] <WindowsXPForever> deb
replaced-url
2221 [18:45:41] <WindowsXPForever> deb-src
replaced-url
2222 [18:45:42] <ska> For a dedicated Debian install, do I need a
special boot loader to boot a MacPro 3,1 system? I see references to
rEFIt and rEFIng.
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2239 [18:55:46] <ska> I've had some issues before with ReFit
and wonder if there is an easier or more streamline way. I
don't have osx anywhere.
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2293 [19:23:46] <bardkorren> Hi all. I'm on Jessie and when
I'm trying to use sudo I get a Segmentation Fault. I have some
(very short) logs here. Can anyone who knows about strace see if
something an be found that indicates the actual problem?
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2299 [19:27:56] <grawity> bardkorren: that's not usually
something you can find out using strace
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2301 [19:28:20] <grawity> which is merely a syscall tracer, while
segfaults usually need gdb or something to actually look into
userspace
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2305 [19:29:35] <Vizva> bardkorren why need to write test before?
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2309 [19:32:02] <Vizva> i dont see where your command start
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2311 [19:32:39] <DK-HaZe> DK-HaZe
2312 [19:34:16] <Vizva> Segmentation fault sudo
<----------------- write this on a search and you have enough to
read
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2314 [19:35:57] <Vizva>
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2315 [19:36:03] <Vizva> here this is interesting
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2325 [19:39:56] <DK-HaZe> can someone plz try an write my name
thanks, checking theme on irc
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2328 [19:40:17] <teraflops> !echo DK-HaZe
2329 [19:40:17] <dpkg> DK-HaZe
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2335 [19:41:47] <teraflops> ska: you only need UEFI-capable
bootloader
2336 [19:41:52] <teraflops> grub is fine
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2338 [19:43:14] <DK-HaZe> thanks
2339 [19:44:11] <DK-HaZe> can you try again, think I got something
mixed up here :S
2340 [19:44:36] <teraflops> ska: that said it looks saner (if
you're doing dual booting) to keep using the osx bootloader an
bless the debian one from osx, then you press option key for
choosing the OS to boot
2341 [19:44:44] <Vizva> DK-HaZe
2342 [19:44:56] <teraflops> nope you can !echo your nick too
2343 [19:44:57] <DK-HaZe> thanks you very much, now it works :)
2344 [19:45:44] <Vizva> !echo give it to me
2345 [19:45:44] <dpkg> give it to me
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2347 [19:46:48] <DK-HaZe> teraflops if i !echo my nick it wont
show the coloring of the chan, but it seems to be all okay now.
2348 [19:46:59] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: oh my bad then
2349 [19:47:15] <teraflops> sorry for the next
2350 [19:47:21] <teraflops> !echo teraflops
2351 [19:47:21] <dpkg> teraflops
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2353 [19:47:37] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: nope you're wrong
2354 [19:47:38] <teraflops> :P
2355 [19:47:43] <DK-HaZe> hmm
2356 [19:47:54] <DK-HaZe> okay
2357 [19:47:55] <Vizva> !echo Vizva
2358 [19:47:56] <dpkg> Vizva
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2360 [19:48:01] <teraflops> DK-HaZe:
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2362 [19:48:49] <DK-HaZe> your chan list shows another color to ?
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2367 [19:50:16] <DK-HaZe> !echo DK-HaZe
2368 [19:50:16] <dpkg> DK-HaZe
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2370 [19:50:50] <DK-HaZe> well it seem to be okay now, before the
colors was really not good, blinded my eyes :)
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2373 [19:51:57] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: sorry i did not understand
your question, it's my fault surely
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2375 [19:52:23] <Vizva> he is usung hexchat maybe
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2377 [19:52:27] <Vizva> using
2378 [19:52:42] <Vizva> so he can change colors of nicks
2379 [19:52:56] <DK-HaZe> yep
2380 [19:53:19] <Vizva> he or her :P
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2383 [19:53:46] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: ah that, I have no idea of
hexchat
2384 [19:53:51] <gshrikant> Hi! Where can I write user-specific
PolicyKit files? Does Debian's polkit accept the new Javascript
rules or .pkla files as in older polkit versions? Sorry I am a
little confused about the whole business.
2385 [19:54:26] <DK-HaZe> well its the same as mIRC when we talk
colors, just needed to change it so it is easier to see different
actions like pm and such
2386 [19:54:56] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: sure but I dont know about
mirc either xD
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2388 [19:55:33] <DK-HaZe> why are you using then ?
2389 [19:55:37] <DK-HaZe> what
2390 [19:55:47] <DK-HaZe> shell
2391 [19:55:52] <teraflops> weechat
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2393 [19:56:11] <DK-HaZe> never heard about that..
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2395 [19:56:30] <random_numbers> Hello. Is
"/etc/environment" the file to edit to have system-wide
variables added? I'm looking to fix the non-antialised java
fonts on debian.
2396 [19:57:12] <DK-HaZe> teraflops looks like it has a good color
scheme from start
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2400 [19:57:49] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: hmm, well it's about
liking, but I guess so
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2404 [19:58:34] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: but if youre talking about
the image I sent that's not the default color scheme
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2406 [19:59:06] <theteju> hey guys,, I need help, to recover my
xfs filesystem ,, What a start of 2017 !!
2407 [19:59:10] <DK-HaZe> I googled it and all the screens shows
its black background and better color setup.
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2410 [19:59:49] <theteju> what kind of live imange should I get
that would have xfs utilities?
2411 [20:00:04] <theteju> like xfs_check and xfs_repair etc
2412 [20:00:24] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: ah, right
2413 [20:00:36] <DK-HaZe> I don't like white backgrounds and
text that float together.. now I've changed mine to black
background and better color setup for various msg and info's.
Easier to differentiate between it all
2414 [20:01:09] <DK-HaZe> yesterday I got a bad headache because
of all the bright lights :)
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2418 [20:03:29] <DK-HaZe> but maybe I should take a look at
weechat some day, is it more lightweight ?
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2421 [20:03:59] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: idk, I never used hexchat
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2424 [20:05:28] <DK-HaZe> okay
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2426 [20:05:37] <DK-HaZe> I'll hang on to what I know then :)
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2430 [20:08:00] <DK-HaZe> but IRSSI looks interesting for me,
terminal only thank you
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2437 [20:11:00] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: np, irssi, weechat, bitchx
are CLI
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2439 [20:12:37] <DK-HaZe> teraflops I don't know why I'm
so horny to use terminal for everything but it really speaks to me
:)
2440 [20:13:11] <DK-HaZe> the only thing is that I'm really
bad at it :)
2441 [20:13:17] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: oh, then switch to a tiling
WM
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2447 [20:15:53] <DK-HaZe> just came
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2449 [20:16:15] <DK-HaZe> thanks, need to read more into it, never
seen that before
2450 [20:16:39] <teraflops> i3 is quite popular these days
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2452 [20:18:59] <DK-HaZe> okay thank you
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2458 [20:21:15] <DK-HaZe> is it possible to open up things out
side ot the tilling wm
2459 [20:21:26] <DK-HaZe> through the tiling wm
2460 [20:23:04] <DK-HaZe> well I have to try it out no matter what
so I'll find out..
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2462 [20:23:34] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: If I get what you meant, yes
you can
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2465 [20:24:46] <Pavr> i3 has some nice tutorial videos guiding
the basics
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2468 [20:26:21] <teraflops> I said i3 because it's popular,
and you can have it running in 5 minutes
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2470 [20:27:00] <DK-HaZe> yes I see there should be some
improvements compare to other tiling wm's in i3
2471 [20:27:08] <DK-HaZe> just need to build a system to try it
out..
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2478 [20:29:33] <DK-HaZe> I'll try installing a laptop
tomorrow with some lightweight dist, and then go to work with i3.
looks interesting, thank you
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2481 [20:30:01] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: debian is lightweight enough
2482 [20:30:04] <teraflops> xD
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2497 [20:33:21] <teraflops> DK-HaZe: np, good luck
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2504 [20:36:26] <saturn__> I'm trying to mount a hard drive
to my pc but when I do it can only be accessed by root and I'm
not able to change permissions, even when I use rw options when
mounting. dones anyone knows how to set the read/write permissions
for all users of a mounted drive?
2505 [20:36:46] <abrotman> saturn__: what are the perms on the
monut point?
2506 [20:37:20] <saturn__> I try to mount at /mnt that's root
2507 [20:37:38] <petemc> what filesystem?
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2510 [20:39:10] <abrotman> saturn__: what is the filesystem on the
partition, and what is ls -ld /mnt/
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2513 [20:40:13] <saturn__> the partition is ntfs
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2515 [20:40:52] <saturn__> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root
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2519 [20:42:23] <petemc> !ntfsrw
2520 [20:42:23] <dpkg> NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing
NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g".
Usage examples:
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2524 [20:44:01] <DK-HaZe> teraflops thank you, I need it :D
2525 [20:44:06] <teraflops> xD
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2529 [20:47:01] <DK-HaZe> btw I probably use some debian dist, If
I understand it right there should be good support in Danish for
Debian
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2541 [20:52:36] <jim> if by "support for danish" you
mean things like translated man pages, char sets, locales, yeah,
debian should have that... if you mean support for asking questions
about debian, I think there are channels and mailing lists for that
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2544 [20:53:30] <jim> !danish
2545 [20:53:30] <dpkg> danish is, like, better than swedish. To
get danish support in KDE do: apt-get install kde-i18n-da, a damn
fine pastry, #debian-dk, #linux.dk, and of course it's better
than dutch
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2547 [20:54:01] <jim> allllllrighteythennnn,,,
2548 [20:54:16] <Vizva> better than swedish?
2549 [20:54:41] <jim> !factinfo danish
2550 [20:54:41] <dpkg> danish -- last modified at Wed Aug 11
16:17:05 2004 by sgeigerbot!~user@h116.144.55.139.ip.alltel.net; it
has been requested 27 times, last by jim, 1m 11s ago.
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2553 [20:55:01] <Vizva> !german
2554 [20:55:02] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in
#debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) -
German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net,
irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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2556 [20:55:08] <DK-HaZe> hehe nearly the same Danish and Swedish,
but I know everthing should be translated and docs for most in
Danish.
2557 [20:55:24] <Vizva> souds like racist ;)
2558 [20:55:27] <Vizva> sounds
2559 [20:55:39] <DK-HaZe> Swedish people are just drunk danish
nothing else :)
2560 [20:55:46] <Vizva> hehe
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2562 [20:57:37] <DK-HaZe> but compare to the support for other
dist I think it is easier for me to understand, and easier to get
support from someone in person as it is widely used. I have had
slitaz an slax recommended to me also but I cant remember what they
are build on
2563 [20:57:39] <DK-HaZe> off
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2566 [20:58:59] <DK-HaZe> I'm just thinking if I stick to
debian some day I may understand it fully instead of jumping between
dists
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2580 [21:02:23] <DK-HaZe> Vizva you close to the boarder ? :)
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2605 [21:12:23] <ricardofantin_> Hello, I need help to probably
report a bug. I installed the last Debian 8 in a virtual machine. I
didn't install any desktop enviroment in the instalation and
after that I installed the awesome package. Awesome is a window
manager, but I cann't initialize it even if I installed
awesome-extra package. To initialize it, I installed one console
(xterm) and one login manager (xdm). The package awesome
shouldn't have as
2606 [21:12:23] <ricardofantin_> dependency one console
application and one login manager?
2607 [21:13:11] <abrotman> no, for a few reasons
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2609 [21:14:02] <cargo_pantz> I ran df command on my debian based
image and it showed I had no disk space available (14GB gone). Last
time I used system, I had 7+GB available. Any idea what the issue
might be?
2610 [21:15:00] <ricardofantin_> abrotman: In this case, then
there should be a tasksel or something like it?
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2618 [21:16:35] <ricardofantin_> abrotman: what are the reasons?
Is there some place I could look to understand it better?
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2627 [21:21:48] <abrotman> ricardofantin_: run it remotely?
don't want it to start automatically? you don't like
xterm?
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2630 [21:22:58] <teraflops> ricardofantin_: are you asking why a
WM does not install by default a DM or a terminal client?
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2634 [21:23:43] <ricardofantin_> No, I was trying to understant
more like to report bugs. I don't know much about systemd. And
the last version of Debian
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2638 [21:25:09] <ricardofantin_> I run by default KDE, in VM that
window manager run very slowly. I don't like the lxde. It is
just my opinion.
2639 [21:25:24] <teraflops> ricardofantin_: that's not a bug,
and not related to systemd
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2643 [21:26:37] <Old_Dog> man nmcli
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2645 [21:26:46] <valbr> I have a server that had a reinstall a
couple of days ago, and gives the following error:
replaced-url
2646 [21:27:20] <valbr> it says ACPI but in the message itself it
says something about "PCI0". I have a problem with the PCI
card so I am looking at the dmesg if I can find something
2647 [21:27:25] <valbr> any ideas on what it could be ?
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2651 [21:30:09] <awal1> ricardofantin_: awesome jessie version
have a bug, display managers won't list it; but I dont find the
bug in the web right now. try starting it with "startx"
after creating a xinitrc file
2652 [21:30:16] <Zathras> valbr, it would help if you would be
more verbose, like giving the kernel version etc
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2655 [21:31:00] <ricardofantin_> awal1: thank you, I will try it.
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2659 [21:32:06] <awal1> ricardofantin_: in terminal just type:
nano ~/.xinitrc and insert this line: exec awesome
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2665 [21:33:59] <Zathras> can someone tell me why a dot is being
ignored and therefor this results in error?
replaced-url
2666 [21:34:01] <awal1> ricardofantin_: save the file
(ctrl+o+enter) close (ctrl+x) they switch to a given tty (1-6) and
just run startx
2667 [21:34:10] <awal1> then switch ^
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2669 [21:34:29] <Zathras> "./private" becomes
"/private" which does not exist
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2671 [21:35:05] <valbr> Zathras: kernel is 4.4.35-1-pve
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2674 [21:36:01] <valbr> Zathras: system is totally update to date
of course
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2678 [21:37:18] <Zathras> euhm intriguing, my debian boxes are on
3.x kernels
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2681 [21:37:47] <ricardofantin_> awal1: I'm using qemu and
can't type crtl+alt+F6. Is there another way to change to
another tty?
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2683 [21:38:06] <ricardofantin_> awal1: I don't have the
startx command
2684 [21:38:27] <Zathras> stretch says: linux-image-amd64 (4.8+77)
2685 [21:38:33] <ricardofantin_> awal1: awesome returns the error
cannot open display
2686 [21:39:04] <awal1> ricardofantin_: are you using
virt-mnaager?
2687 [21:39:16] <valbr> Zathras: its a proxmox install, I thought
it was just debian with a preinstalled promox web UI, but apparently
there is more to it
2688 [21:39:29] <awal1> virt-manager
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2690 [21:39:55] <valbr> I thought looking in here, coz it could be
debian specific and not anything with proxmox web UI itself
2691 [21:40:18] <Zathras> ah. You could also try #oftc
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2694 [21:40:56] <Zathras> but indeed it does not look like regular
debian
2695 [21:41:38] <ricardofantin_> awal1: no I create the qcow image
with aqemu and after use the command "qemu-system-x86_64 -hda
Debian"
2696 [21:41:45] <ricardofantin_> I'll try the virt-manager
2697 [21:41:45] <Zathras> what is the PCI card problem valbr ?
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2700 [21:42:31] <valbr> Zathras: its a 4 port NIC card (tried 2
cards intel and HP both the same problem) and proxmox (or debian
itself) do not see all the ports or only some of them
2701 [21:42:34] <awal1> ricardofantin_: what's your host?
2702 [21:43:13] <valbr> weird thing is that I installed proxmox on
that same machine 1 and a half month ago with the same hardware. no
problem..
2703 [21:43:24] <valbr> did a reinstall yesterday and boom it
starts to do some strange things
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2705 [21:43:47] <Zathras> I have a script which seems to drop a
bot at some point for some reason. Why/how can I fix this while
remain using relative paths?
replaced-url
2706 [21:44:40] <Zathras> valbr, try a different PCI slot. Also
has something changed? (kernel. driver, BIOS settings) ?
2707 [21:44:58] <valbr> there is only 1 PCI slot, nope nothing is
different
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2712 [21:46:25] <Zathras> maybe the card is not inserted
correctly? Apply some pressure to make sure all contacts are OK?
2713 [21:46:39] <Zathras> also: try lspci/dmidecode
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2717 [21:46:56] <Zathras> or the knowledgebase of the card
manufactorer?
2718 [21:47:21] <valbr> Zathras: I am pretty sure it is in
correctly, I have plugged it out and plugged it in again several
times after a shutdown
2719 [21:47:24] <Zathras> unload/reload driver
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2721 [21:47:39] <Zathras> just giving some generic hints
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2723 [21:48:27] <bardkorren> Is there a way to validate my system
files? (Mainly binaries, in my case) I'm thinking that I might
have some broken system binaries and I'd love to run a checker
that validated with checksums, rights, etc.
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2725 [21:49:15] <valbr> Zathras: lspci only shows 2 NIC's
(which are the ones already on the MB itself)
2726 [21:49:21] <valbr> driver reload already done
2727 [21:49:22] <jak2000> how to delete all files on a certain
directory: /home/jak/Maildir/cur with find command and exec?
2728 [21:49:46] <valbr> what should I look up in the card
manufacturer site?
2729 [21:49:51] <preaction> jak2000: find should have a -delete
flag, no? otherwise, it's -exec rm {}
2730 [21:50:48] <jak2000> preaction: find /home/jak/Maildir/cur/
-type f -exec rm {} ?
2731 [21:50:49] <jak2000> right?
2732 [21:51:05] <preaction> jak2000: what happens when you try it?
also, remember, you can't undo that
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2734 [21:51:35] <jak2000> i need empty this folder (postfix
folder) not know other way..... i have here 150 000 small files
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2737 [21:52:31] <ricardofantin_> awal1: I used the aqemu. I
installed virt-manager and it appears more easy to use. I'll
try it with more time.
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2746 [21:56:32] <Sevalecan> so, my system appears to be pulling an
invalid ipv6 address (outside of the assigned subnet I see from my
router), and an ipv6 address or two that /is/ in the assigned
subnet... And the invalid address seems to partially mimic a
nameserver I have in my resolv.conf ... and I have no idea where
this address is coming from :P
2747 [21:56:34] <jak2000> preaction anya dvice?
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2749 [21:56:55] <preaction> jak2000: my advice remains "what
happens when you try it?"
2750 [21:57:44] <jak2000> find: missing argument to `-exec'
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2752 [21:59:19] <preaction> jak2000: you probably need a \; as
well. and/or you need to escape the {}. and/or did you try seeing if
there's a -delete flag in your find?
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2754 [22:00:15] <jak2000> man find
2755 [22:00:18] <jak2000> seeing
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2757 [22:00:52] <teraflops> ricardofantin_: if you are using qemu
how do you connect to the guest?
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2762 [22:05:39] <m4221> is anyone familiar with debian on
powerpc...#debianppc is very quiet
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2767 [22:08:44] <teraflops> ricardofantin_: I ask it because if
you use spice (spice-gtk) you can easily send ctrl+alt+ combos to
the guest
2768 [22:09:06] <teraflops> no need of virt manager
2769 [22:09:28] <ricardofantin_> sorry, I was making other things
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2772 [22:11:09] <ricardofantin_> I missunderstud the question or
other thing. I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 and I'm experiencing
many warnings. To program somethings I'll try something
diferent
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2797 [22:25:57] <Walex> Sevalecan: IPv6 depends on the address,
but IPv6 also has dynamic creation of addresses, a bit like the
169.254.0.0 ones in IPv4.
2798 [22:26:30] <Walex> Sevalecan: in any case your logs should
tell you how that address came to be assigned to your system.
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2802 [22:28:21] <Sevalecan> I think I may have solved the problem
by adjusting the RADVD/DHCPv6 configuration on my router, but
I'm curious which log files would have this (or if it would
have to be enabled somewhere)
2803 [22:29:13] <patterson> I have to wonder just how different
distros are other than pakage management and directory structure
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2809 [22:31:01] <n4dir> init system.
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2812 [22:31:46] <n4dir> configuration of smaller stuff (keyboard,
time, etc).
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2818 [22:33:51] <TomTomTosch> infrastructure, community, online
services, policies (free software/security), the company behind,
release cycles, etc. pp.
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2828 [22:37:20] <Walex> patterson: as the others have said, but
mostly it is package management and config file management.
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2830 [22:37:35] <Sevalecan> patterson: some other distros, like
Gentoo, can use a rolling release cycle too (mostly similar to
Debian Testing) without a specific release version
2831 [22:37:45] <binaryc> preference to OpenLDAP vs FreeIPA,
picking between two. Leaning towards FreeIPA. Anyone running frun
unstable / concerns ?
2832 [22:37:46] <Walex> patterson: the real difference among
distro is maintanability, and then package availability.
2833 [22:38:27] <Walex> binaryc: FreeIPA is a collections of
packages, not just LDAP.
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2837 [22:40:24] <binaryc> understood, should have phrased,
standard LDAP isnstall vs..
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2850 [22:44:14] <Pelle`> i got this share on my debian machine
that i have mounted on my win pc, i can create folders and delete
folders but files i have downloaded with transmission i have to log
on to the debian machine and erase when i want to delete them, i
dont need root access to delete them with my local linux acc, got
umask 2 set in transmission deamon cfg... how do i make it so that i
can delete them from my
2851 [22:44:14] <Pelle`> win pc?
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2857 [22:47:14] <binaryc> going for fedora. Feels strange, will
replace instance with debian when it makes stable
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2862 [22:50:47] <n4dir> Pelle`: as no one answers, i guess
Filezilla or ssh via putty is not an option? You want a more direct
way to delelete, i guess.
2863 [22:51:47] <Pelle`> yea, i got the share mounted on my
laptops and pcs and connect to my own vpn... i want it to be
girlfriend friendly ^^
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2865 [22:51:58] <Pelle`> i dont want here to mess about in the
terminal hah
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2869 [22:53:46] <n4dir> yeah, i thought so. But i can't help
with it, sorry
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2871 [22:54:05] <n4dir> like in: makes sense.
2872 [22:55:17] <Pavr> are you logged in on the share with the
same user as you use locally to delete the files?
2873 [22:55:25] <Pelle`> yea hmm, i have mounted the share with
the linux account, and the linux account is in the group as
transmission
2874 [22:55:27] <Pelle`> yea
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2876 [22:56:22] <Pelle`> ls -l for one example directory:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 debian-transmission debian-transmission
2877 [22:56:43] <Pavr> samba isn't set to read only?
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2879 [22:57:04] <Pelle`> not that i know of, since i can create
and delete folders from windows
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2881 [22:57:27] <Pelle`> just that files downloaded with
transmission cant be deleted
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2883 [22:58:08] <Pelle`> everything works as expected but the
transmission downloads
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2885 [22:58:40] <Pavr> can't remember what i did but im
pretty sure i made a sharedmedia user and set the downloadfolder
group to the sharedmedia folder and gave it the setgid permission
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2887 [22:59:05] <Pavr> sharedmedia group*
2888 [22:59:31] <Pelle`> mkay
2889 [23:01:07] <Pelle`>
replaced-url
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2896 [23:03:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> Pelle`, sounds more like
filenames that win wont tolerate
2897 [23:04:32] <Pelle`> CutMeOwnThroat well its just directorys
and like movie files basically
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2906 [23:10:06] <CutMeOwnThroat> nothing you said indicates I
wasn't right. try to rename a file to a.avi or so under linux
and then try to delete it from windows
2907 [23:10:09] <jhutchins_wk> Pelle`: Check the samba logs on the
server. Check the ownership/permissions of the files.
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2909 [23:10:48] <jhutchins_wk> Also check what ownership and
permissions the samba server is setting.
2910 [23:11:00] <jhutchins_wk> Pelle`: Does transmission run on
the Linux box?
2911 [23:11:10] <Pelle`> yes its on the same box
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2913 [23:11:26] <Pelle`> -rw-rw-r-- 1 debian-transmission
debian-transmission is the owner of the downloaded files
2914 [23:11:33] <jhutchins_wk> Pelle`: So it's creating the
files under Linux, as a linux user.
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2916 [23:11:42] <Pelle`> yea
2917 [23:11:58] <jhutchins_wk> Pelle`: Note that that file is not
writable by user Pelle unless Pelle is in the debian-transmission
group.
2918 [23:12:10] <jhutchins_wk> Pelle`: Not writeable means not
deleteable.
2919 [23:12:13] <Pelle`> yea i know, but my user is that group
2920 [23:12:34] <Pelle`> cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev
netdev lpadmin scanner debian-transmission
2921 [23:12:39] <jhutchins_wk> Is the directory writable by that
user?
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2923 [23:12:53] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, so it should be writable.
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2927 [23:13:27] <jhutchins_wk> You can increase the logging level
in samba, but remember to turn it back down, it's a big
performance hit.
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2930 [23:14:02] <Pavr> are you sure you are logged in to the share
on windows with the right user? i know i asked but yeah looking at
the logs might be a good idea.
2931 [23:14:14] <jhutchins_wk> Pelle`: The Windows user is
probably not the same as that user of course.
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2934 [23:14:45] <Pavr> the config you shared has the share as
public and allows guests
2935 [23:14:47] <Pelle`> i just remounted the share on this pc and
still the same
2936 [23:14:49] <xcel_> hey why do it get /bin/bash: warning:
shell level (1000) too high, resetting to 1
2937 [23:14:56] <xcel_> when updating etc
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2939 [23:15:01] <jhutchins_wk> The question is whether the
_windows_ user has write access. Might be informative to look at the
permissions on the windows box for that file/user.
2940 [23:15:09] <xcel_> /usr/bin/python3: fork: Cannot allocate
memory
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2942 [23:16:07] <jhutchins_wk> xcel_: Not normal. Please let us
know what release you're running, the exact command, and how
much free ram/swap you have.
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2946 [23:16:38] <Plushwolf> Is the freeze of stretch stable enough
for a small production server?
2947 [23:16:49] <Pelle`> if i right click the share then
properties -> security i got everyone root(unix user\root) and
root(unix group\root)
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2950 [23:18:06] <Pelle`> and if i check a directory downloaded by
transmission i got everyone debian-transmission(unix
user\debian-transmission) debian-transmission(unix
group\debian-transmission)
2951 [23:18:13] <xcel_> its strech jhutchins_wk sudo apt-get
update i dont know how see enable swap?
2952 [23:18:30] <xcel_> however i have a shitton python3 running
2953 [23:19:39] <somiaj> Plushwolf: stretch won't ever be
considered ready for a 'production server' until it is
released, since even if it was stable, it has no timely security
support.
2954 [23:19:41] <Pavr> Pelle`, and what does the log in
/var/log/samba say?
2955 [23:19:42] <xcel_> memory is almost full
2956 [23:20:13] <Plushwolf> somiaj: Okay, but isn'tis already
freezed?
2957 [23:20:19] <Plushwolf> *isn't this
2958 [23:20:51] <xcel_> can it be i'd jhutchins_wk tried to
add two python files in /usr/bin
2959 [23:21:06] <Vizva> Pelle` what kind of network is this?
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2961 [23:21:31] <Pelle`> [2017/01/01 00:44:41.460838, 0]
../lib/param/loadparm.c:1659(lpcfg_do_service_parameter)
2962 [23:21:31] <Pelle`> Ignoring unknown parameter "share
modes"
2963 [23:21:31] <Pelle`> [2017/01/01 23:07:32.135983, 0]
../lib/param/loadparm.c:743(lpcfg_map_parameter)
2964 [23:21:31] <Pelle`> Unknown parameter encountered:
"share modes"
2965 [23:21:32] <Pelle`> [2017/01/01 23:07:32.141706, 0]
../lib/param/loadparm.c:1659(lpcfg_do_service_parameter)
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2968 [23:21:49] <xcel_> huh seems to be working now
2969 [23:22:41] <Pelle`> Vizva just a home network
2970 [23:22:58] <Vizva> ethernet cable?
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2972 [23:23:05] <Pelle`> yea
2973 [23:23:25] <Vizva> i was join late
2974 [23:23:34] <xcel_> seems to be something with python when i
do pip search it freezes
2975 [23:23:39] <Pelle`> on this pc atleast, on my lappy i connect
to my home network via vpn tho
2976 [23:24:06] <somiaj> Plushwolf: not really, it is only a
transition freeze, soft freeze happens jan 5th, full freeze is feb
5th.
2977 [23:24:32] <Pavr> Pelle`, find the log for the machine that
is trying to delete files and read/paste that.
2978 [23:24:33] <somiaj> Plushwolf: but even if it was a full
freeze, security is important for 'production servers' and
the suggestion here is until the release it is not ready for
production
2979 [23:25:19] <xcel_> still get /bin/bash: warning: shell level
(1000) too high, resetting to 1
2980 [23:25:25] <Pelle`>
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2981 [23:25:30] <Plushwolf> Okay, I will use jessie instead. Thank
you!
2982 [23:25:37] <Pelle`> thats the only things that are in the log
for this pc
2983 [23:25:49] <Vizva> Pelle` could be a client problem.
Sugestion install for example krusader and then open a smb under
xtras networkconnection with your details and look you can edit it
or not - if you like
2984 [23:26:40] <Vizva> you look for an easier way in x
2985 [23:26:57] <xcel_> gah
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2987 [23:27:22] <Pelle`> Vizva i got the share mounted on my win
pc
2988 [23:27:39] <Vizva> yes and?
2989 [23:27:53] <Vizva> smb is your protocol or not?
2990 [23:28:05] <Pelle`> yea
2991 [23:28:17] <Vizva> you want edit in linux from windows?
2992 [23:28:27] <Pelle`> mhm ^^
2993 [23:28:31] <Vizva> oh sorry
2994 [23:28:37] <Pelle`> :)
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2998 [23:29:29] <xcel_> anyone have any idea?
2999 [23:29:35] <Vizva> i think its a windows problem - like it
always stuck if you need a constructive work with other OS
3000 [23:29:53] <Vizva> but lets think about
3001 [23:31:04] <Pavr> Pelle`, try disabling guest access to the
share and add a valid users line to the share
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3007 [23:32:52] <Pelle`> Pavr mkay
3008 [23:32:56] <WindowsXPForever> after running apt-get
dist-upgrade and rebooting, apt-get dist-upgrade shows this still
like it didn't finish the first time:
3009 [23:32:58] <WindowsXPForever> 658 upgraded, 709 newly
installed, 80 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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3012 [23:33:18] <WindowsXPForever> It want to use 983MB too
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3018 [23:34:12] <WindowsXPForever> xcel_, python related?
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3020 [23:35:08] <xcel_> WindowsXPForever: yeah i think so?
3021 [23:35:10] <xcel_>
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3026 [23:36:31] <doublehp> since recent update of my machine, some
sensors now return value 0 (they were working fine before update);
are there known easy fix ?
3027 [23:36:38] <xcel_> last i di dwas trying to get this to work
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3028 [23:36:45] <xcel_> oops caps sorry
3029 [23:37:30] <xcel_> i cant reinstall/install w/e either
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3032 [23:39:18] <WindowsXPForever> xcel_, does ulimit -a show any
unusual restrictions?
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3034 [23:39:36] <WindowsXPForever> Why is it running out of
memory?
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3036 [23:40:02] <xcel_> WindowsXPForever: its fine now but i was
whei was upgrading
3037 [23:40:49] <xcel_> like ofr now pip search openbox is eating
my memory
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3040 [23:42:03] <xcel_> WindowsXPForever: what should i look for
in ulimit
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3048 [23:45:39] <xcel_> WindowsXPForever: here's the error
log of pipi if you mnind having a look
3049 [23:45:41] <xcel_>
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3050 [23:45:57] <jhutchins_wk> xcel_: You might find more help in
#debian-next on oftc.net. That channel specifically supports
Testing.
3051 [23:46:13] <xcel_> oh ok thanks
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3054 [23:46:41] <jhutchins_wk> xcel_: Also, you should know how to
determine how much ram you have and whether you have swap if
you're going to test new software. top will show you, among
other things. So will free.
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3056 [23:47:23] <jhutchins_wk> The purpose of making testing
available is to that people can find what's broken.
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3061 [23:48:32] <jscoder> I've installed jessie with
debootstrap on a usb hdd, having issues with grub2, the menu doesnt
show up, I think its because there is a seperate /boot partition how
do I install grub properly?
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3063 [23:48:57] <madlord> hello guys, happy new year! :)
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3067 [23:50:20] <awal1> After canceling the edition of a file
(openbox menu.xml / nano)) I get a notification "You have a new
mail. Check /var/mail/username" or something similar, but i
checked /var/mail/username and nothing, apart root mails. what
happens exactly?
3068 [23:50:27] <madlord> after installing the firmwares for the
ath10k wireless card, although the wifi is working, there are still
error messages at boot, e.g., ath10k_pci 0000:01:00.0: firmware:
failed to load ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:01:00.0.bin (-2)
3069 [23:50:47] <jscoder> I installed grub2 with the command
grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdc but its only
booting to the grub shell
3070 [23:50:50] <madlord> does anyone know how to remove this
message from boot?
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3072 [23:51:00] <somiaj> awal1: sounds like you have it setup to
forward root emails to your main user. What was the last email after
that, usually it is an automatic email informing you of something
about your machine.
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3077 [23:53:41] <awal1> somiaj: haven't edited nothing, using
defaults. I have nothing new in /var/mail/username since 1 hour
before (apt changelog)
3078 [23:54:06] <awal1> so wondering why the notification about
new mail but I dont see nothing there
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3080 [23:55:32] <awal1> logged as standard user, not doing
anything as root
3081 [23:56:04] <awal1> well, it's a sid VM
3082 [23:56:56] <somiaj> awal1: note that notification gets
triggered when you get new mail in all shells, but isn't
displayed until you interact with the shell. So I sometimes have
shells that have been inactive spout out old mail warnings just
cause I hadn't touched it for a while.
3083 [23:56:59] <ragedragon> Hello, does someone please is using
the mozilla build of firefox rev 50.1?
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3085 [23:57:03] <somiaj> at least that is my experience
3086 [23:57:20] <bralto> hi there, backports cinnamon on debian
jessie gives me a standard of 25% cpu usage (core i7 920) on
xorg+cinnamon on nvidia, anyone an idea how to debug this?
3087 [23:57:25] <somiaj> ragedragon: can you ask your real
question? Is your question you want to install the newest firefox in
debian jessie?
3088 [23:57:26] <ragedragon> even without plugins started (safe
mode) the cpu consumption is more than 120%
3089 [23:57:41] <somiaj> ragedragon: how did you install firefox
3090 [23:58:26] <ragedragon> somiaj, i installed it manually from
the moz website, since the rev 50.1 the cpu consumption is too high
3091 [23:58:38] <ragedragon> i'm using the debian old stable
(wheezy)
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3093 [23:59:16] <ragedragon> my cpu is a simple atom N330
3094 [23:59:23] <ragedragon> (x86)
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