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• 5[00:04:58] <ryouma> the horse talks
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• 59[00:42:44] <bulbasauurr> Hello world !!!
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• 62[00:44:05] <bulbasauurr> Does anyone over here maybe knows how to get gnuradio working in parrotsec or kali ?
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• 64[00:44:17] <bulbasauurr> ubuntu gnuradio just works fine
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• 66[00:45:41] <festerjester> More info is needed. Errors, problems, etc
• 67[00:46:05] <festerjester> One can Google how to install gnuradio.
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• 69[00:47:42] <festerjester> Guess that was not the answer bulbasauurr was looking for.
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• 74[00:54:11] <dvs> festerjester, you scared him! ;-P
• 75[00:57:18] <sponix> festerjester: the RTFM answer ?
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• 79[01:00:43] <festerjester> sponix, I asked for more info.
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• 92[01:11:15] <H2Q> hello, can you please confirm that these steps are all that I need to upgrade from stretch to debian; replaced-url
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• 95[01:12:06] <joepublic> dpkg: stretch->buster
• 96[01:12:07] <dpkg> Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> replaced-url
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• 98[01:13:01] <H2Q> so nothing to do extra for VMs?
• 99[01:13:32] <joepublic> VMs is a pretty generic subject area. what VMs?
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• 101[01:14:08] <H2Q> qemu-kvm
• 102[01:14:19] <somiaj> from the os side, shouldn't matter if it is running on physical or virtual hardware
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• 104[01:14:32] <sponix> H2Q: if the Debian install is inside a VM not likely. I mean if you upgrade the VM software itself on the host, you might need to re-install new Guest Editions
• 105[01:14:36] <sponix> additions even
• 106[01:14:54] <joepublic> for qemu, what works before works the same after in my experience
• 107[01:15:15] <H2Q> I will only upgrade the host system
• 108[01:15:21] <H2Q> to buster
• 109[01:15:28] <H2Q> the VMs should remain as they are
• 110[01:16:10] <H2Q> oh yes I've just been on the linked page above.
• 111[01:16:18] <sponix> Yeah, doing a Host OS upgrade from Debian 9.x to 10 -- shouldn't touch your VM's
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• 113[01:16:56] <somiaj> My guests worked just fine after upgrading my host from stretch to buster without any additional work
• 114[01:17:00] <somiaj> I use libvirt with qemu-kvm
• 115[01:17:06] <H2Q> all links in sources.list have debian.org domain, so no 3rd parties
• 116[01:17:25] <H2Q> yes, me too
• 117[01:17:41] <somiaj> depending on what you have done to your system, there are ways to break the upgrade, so always backup, but from what you have shared, things should just work smoothly
• 118[01:17:50] <H2Q> sure
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• 124[01:19:20] <H2Q> thank you all very much, I'll get it started then
• 125[01:19:42] <H2Q> oops
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• 129[01:21:42] <H2Q> I edited sources.list as specified above, and then ran 'apt update', which was closed with this; replaced-url
• 130[01:22:10] <H2Q> is that ignorable?
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• 132[01:23:57] <H2Q> possibly
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• 137[01:26:48] <somiaj> not sure, I don't use AppStream
• 138[01:28:19] <somiaj> though sounds like it just might mean some of your metadata is off, I woudln't worry about it at this stage.
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• 142[01:30:11] <H2Q> yeah, I proceeded, too
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• 161[01:39:20] <r4u1> j#ubuntu
• 162[01:40:08] <dvs> blasphemy!
• 163[01:40:24] <r4u1> quik
• 164[01:40:30] <dvs> !exit
• 165[01:40:30] <dpkg> /quit you fool!
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• 174[01:45:52] <alex-pbj> Is this "official" debian channel, or is it on another server?
• 175[01:46:01] <Logg> super official
• 176[01:46:13] <alex-pbj> ..of course. ;o)
• 177[01:46:13] <dvs> alex-pbj, well, officially no
• 178[01:46:24] <dvs> but it's a very close second
• 179[01:46:31] <alex-pbj> Good knowledge base?
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• 181[01:46:44] <Logg> is OFTC the official one?
• 182[01:46:48] <dvs> yes
• 183[01:46:54] <Logg> huh.
• 184[01:47:04] <dvs> alex-pbj, this used to be the official channel but people didn't want to move
• 185[01:47:08] <annadane> oftc = official, but less people
• 186[01:47:12] <annadane> may have more developers
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• 188[01:47:28] <alex-pbj> Yeah I thought I saw somthing like that on the MOTD here, but hadn't seen it once I was "looking" for it.
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• 190[01:47:38] <annadane> all the other #debian-* channels are on oftc basically
• 191[01:47:51] <Logg> Ok that makes sense. Not to start drama but do you know why it moved to OFTC? was it to do with freenode ownership?
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• 194[01:48:18] * alex-pbj not trying to stir anything.. either!
• 195[01:48:33] <joepublic> dpkg: oftc move
• 196[01:48:33] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see replaced-url
• 197[01:48:48] <Logg> yeet. thank you Joepublic
• 198[01:48:53] <joepublic> :)
• 199[01:48:57] <Logg> wtf 2006
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• 202[01:49:33] <alex-pbj> Moves take time. ;o)
• 203[01:49:41] <petn-randall> Logg: shamaladingdong back to ya ;)
• 204[01:50:34] <alex-pbj> Okay, has anyone tried nnn under raspbian buster?
• 205[01:51:16] * alex-pbj can't open files from nnn -haven't tried in debian however
• 206[01:51:44] <annadane> !raspbian
• 207[01:51:44] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
• 208[01:51:50] <annadane> alex-pbj, ask there ^
• 209[01:51:58] <alex-pbj> WIll do.
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• 211[01:52:33] <alex-pbj> ..need to know if works on debian.
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• 213[01:53:01] * alex-pbj wants to have more variables known
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• 216[01:53:54] <Logg> i just installed it and it is cool. beats ls && cd && ls && cd && ls && cd && xdg-open file
• 217[01:54:04] <Logg> works.
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• 219[01:55:28] <Logg> if it's not working for you, maybe you need to check xdg-open b/c that's probably the backend for opening the files (but i do not know that for sure)
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• 221[01:56:00] <alex-pbj> Logg: and you can open (say nano/vi) files from nnn?
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• 225[01:57:49] <Logg> I'm not really sure what would qualify as a "nano" file but if I select "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf" in nnn, then it opens a new terminal, kind of looks like vi.
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• 229[01:58:27] <alex-pbj> Great.
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• 236[01:59:04] <alex-pbj> Logg: Yes, a .conf will do. I'll follow your recommendation and along with checking in at #raspbian.
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• 240[02:00:32] <blscoe> Hi. Someone know how I can log all the incomming and outcomming network request using the terminal? I have a small server and I want to check and registry the access information.
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• 244[02:01:24] <Logg> blscoe, tshark or tcpdump
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• 246[02:02:02] <Logg> if you want a more refined interface for longterm use you probably want ntopng
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• 248[02:02:53] <blscoe> tnks Logg!
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• 280[02:23:36] <H2Q> I ran 'apt install -f' instead of 'apt full-upgrade', because 'apt upgrade' ended with 'E: Subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)'...is it ok having done that?
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• 282[02:23:51] <H2Q> there have been a lot of installs
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• 284[02:24:12] <petn-randall> H2Q: It's impossible to say when you only pick a single line out of 50 lines of error messages.
• 285[02:24:35] <petn-randall> H2Q: Can you share the *complete* output to replaced-url
• 286[02:24:45] <Logg> if everything is working fine for you it's probably fine
• 287[02:24:51] <H2Q> I am running the full-upgrade now
• 288[02:25:02] <H2Q> I dont know yet
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• 290[02:25:11] <H2Q> but full upgrade runs, as it seems
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• 324[02:49:15] <kallenp> linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64 : Conflicts: linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64-unsigned but 4.19.67-2+deb10u2 is to be installed
• 325[02:49:22] <kallenp> any idea, howto solve this ?
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• 327[02:50:37] <sponix> kallenp: kinda scratching my head as to why that is even coming up
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• 329[02:50:57] <sponix> kallenp: did you manually install the signed one ? (or unsigned for that matter) ?
• 330[02:53:06] <kallenp> really I dont know… my friend ask me to repair aptitude on his laptop
• 331[02:53:35] <kallenp> actually running kernel is 4.19.0-6-amd64
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• 333[02:53:43] <petn-randall> !bat
• 334[02:53:51] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 335[02:53:56] <petn-randall> kallenp: ^^^
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• 341[02:57:48] <kallenp> replaced-url
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• 345[03:00:25] <kallenp> replaced-url
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• 348[03:01:03] <kallenp> replaced-url
• 349[03:01:21] <karlpinc> kallenp: This will give you installed packages that are not in debian (or no longer in debian): aptitude search '~i(!~ODebian)'
• 350[03:02:23] <ryouma> i find that sux is on that list. what is a good substitute?
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• 352[03:02:53] <karlpinc> kallenp: From that last paste looks like you've a number of non-debian repos. That causes problems. See the <frankendebian> and <dontbreakdebian> factoids.
• 353[03:02:56] <ryouma> ((i also find that browser-plugin-vlc is on that list. is it ... needed for anything?)
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• 359[03:03:30] <kallenp> karlpinc: replaced-url
• 360[03:04:43] <petn-randall> kallenp: Have you considered fixing the error in the first paste?
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• 362[03:05:21] <karlpinc> kallenp: FYI, a fair number of people here won't go to pastebin.com due to ads and javascript requirements etc.
• 363[03:06:28] <kallenp> i don't understand irc i don't use every day ..
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• 366[03:07:33] <kallenp> petn-randall: what mistake do you think?
• 367[03:07:35] <karlpinc> kallenp: The factoids are remembered by the bot, you can see them by typing, e.g.: /msg dpkg dontbreakdebian
• 368[03:07:47] <petn-randall> kallenp: No worries, just remember to use replaced-url
• 369[03:07:51] <kallenp> ok, thanks
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• 372[03:08:14] <karlpinc> kallenp: The dpkg bot is one of the bots here. There are others.
• 373[03:08:16] <petn-randall> kallenp: Lines 32-37
• 374[03:08:36] <petn-randall> kallenp: You've told the system to resume from a swap device that doesn't exist.
• 375[03:08:55] <karlpinc> I can see how that'd be a problem.
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• 384[03:14:07] <kallenp> petn-randall: but sda2 is exist and swap too
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• 392[03:16:59] <petn-randall> kallenp: That's not what the error is complaining about.
• 393[03:17:54] <DarwinElf> i'm trying to setup unattended-upgrades & apt-listchanges on Debian servers... I've done it on Debian-based distributions but on the real thing (which I hadn't used much since 1998 - '00) it seems /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades isn't well-documented and there's no webpage explaining clearly what options are (except pages that show an Ubuntu, different, version of that file)... I only want to install security updates and ones that will be
• 394[03:17:54] <DarwinElf> stable. I don't understand what codename & archive & suite-based matching is...
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• 397[03:20:02] <magic_ninja> I'm getting these warnings after I did some work on an LVM
• 398[03:20:09] <karlpinc> DarwinElf: The default setup should do what you want.
• 399[03:20:14] <magic_ninja> WARNING: Device /dev/sda3 has size of 1939298304 sectors which is smaller than corresponding PV size of 1951973376 sectors. Was device resized?
• 400[03:20:14] <magic_ninja> One or more devices used as PVs in VG sparkie-desktop-vg have changed sizes.
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• 402[03:20:30] <magic_ninja> Lots of them. Do I need to fix them or acknowledge them or something?
• 403[03:21:01] <DarwinElf> thanks
• 404[03:21:06] <karlpinc> DarwinElf: less /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades seems to have a whole lot of documentation.
• 405[03:21:12] <magic_ninja> I shrunk the volume and moved some space out of it, and also left some empty space in a couple spots to make resizing easier.
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• 407[03:21:37] <DarwinElf> there's a difference between documentation the writer thinks you know what they're talking about, or doesn't think so
• 408[03:21:46] <DarwinElf> i.e., cryptic or not
• 409[03:21:57] <karlpinc> DarwinElf: I swear I've seen something else.... try: zless /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/README.md.gz
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• 411[03:22:31] <coruja> DarwinElf, replaced-url
• 412[03:23:02] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: Looks like you resized the PV, which has likely caused data loss. Restore from backups.
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• 415[03:23:33] <magic_ninja> Everything seems to be here and running fine.
• 416[03:23:38] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You resized actual partitions?
• 417[03:23:43] <magic_ninja> is there a way to run fsck on reboot
• 418[03:23:58] <magic_ninja> I move space out of the vg
• 419[03:24:01] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: Sure, but how is that related to your issue?
• 420[03:24:41] <magic_ninja> I just assumed there was some kind of metadata stored when I did the install that didn't match up.
• 421[03:24:44] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: man systemd-fsck
• 422[03:25:21] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: How did you "move space out of the vg"?
• 423[03:25:22] <magic_ninja> I don't believe I have data loss. I believe the change is what is causing the warnings.
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• 425[03:25:41] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You used only lvm commands?
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• 427[03:25:46] <magic_ninja> I used gparted / kde partition manager in a live environment
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• 429[03:26:28] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You resized the actual partitions out from under lvm. You need to undo the changes to the partition tables. Exactly. Before reboot.
• 430[03:26:35] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Or just restore from backup.
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• 432[03:26:58] <karlpinc> (I think before reboot.)
• 433[03:27:08] <magic_ninja> not need before reboot here.
• 434[03:27:48] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: You have changed the size of sda3 without changing the size of the PV that is on there. Any data at the end of it will now be unrecoverable.
• 435[03:27:48] <petn-randall> But that shouldn't be a big deal since you surely made backups before attempting to change partition layouts.
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• 437[03:28:15] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: The whole point of lvm is to not have physical partitions that change size. If you're going to change the size of the physical partitions you need to first change all the sizes inside lvm to correspond to the new partition layout. And that usually means first changing all the file system sizes before doing anything.
• 438[03:28:18] <DarwinElf> looked at all that, still didn't see the difference between 'proposed-updates,' 'label=Debian,' 'label=Debian-Security,' 'stable,' 'stable-updates,' 'proposed-updates,' 'Debian Backports'
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• 444[03:28:59] <magic_ninja> okay, so /dev/sda3 is my volume group
• 445[03:29:02] <DarwinElf> obviously I'm getting the security and some stable ones, probably not backports if it's similar to other OS... don't know about the rest
• 446[03:29:10] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: No, it's your PV.
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• 448[03:29:54] <magic_ninja> got ya. well, my pv only one one vg
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• 450[03:30:36] <magic_ninja> so it is saying that my vg is bigger than my pv
• 451[03:30:54] <magic_ninja> my vg says it is 930.77GB and the PV is 924.73 GB
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• 455[03:31:25] <magic_ninja> so I shrink my vg and I should be fine.
• 456[03:31:40] <magic_ninja> the end of my volume group is just unallocated space and swap
• 457[03:31:45] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: Well, the missing data is already gone.
• 458[03:31:49] <DarwinElf> and the default settings aren't actually complete--unlike older, strictly Unix-like OSes (no systemd,) it doesn't mail root... you have to enter that. Of course, that's something that's obvious, unlike the different choices of what to upgrade (not defined)
• 459[03:32:00] <karlpinc> DarwinElf: I found this: replaced-url
• 460[03:32:17] <petn-randall> DarwinElf: I don't know what systemd has to do with this.
• 461[03:32:27] <DarwinElf> thanks, that helps a lot
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• 464[03:33:51] <karlpinc> DarwinElf: I swear there's other docs, maybe the installation manual. But that's the gist of it.
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• 466[03:33:51] <magic_ninja> Honestly, that seems like something KDE partition manager should check for.
• 467[03:34:03] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: a PV usually has two meta-data headers, one at the beginning and one at the end of the disk. One which side did you remove the ~6 GB?
• 468[03:34:12] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Possibly. You could file a bug.
• 469[03:34:18] <magic_ninja> The end
• 470[03:34:42] <magic_ninja> Here, just a sec
• 471[03:34:51] <petn-randall> That would require that kparted know what LVM is.
• 472[03:35:05] <magic_ninja> it has a backend for it
• 473[03:35:06] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You're generally expected to know that data in a partition can be anywhere in the partition, and take steps to move that data out of the area that you are removing from the partition.
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• 475[03:35:55] <karlpinc> (Before you remove the space from the partition.)
• 476[03:36:09] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: Btw, your VG contains only one PV, not the other way around. A PV can only be assigned to one VG, but a VG can contain many PVs.
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• 478[03:36:35] <magic_ninja> Eh, when you have a GUI utility making the claim that it can resize-move-etc without data loss, I don't find it to be unreasonable to expect it to prevent something like this.
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• 480[03:36:51] <magic_ninja> It is likely that the issue hasnt' been thought about or came up yet, of course. That is how progress is made.
• 481[03:37:04] <karlpinc> (g)parted has always made extravagent claims, IMO.
• 482[03:37:05] <DarwinElf> yeah, I need to read the installation manual, haven't done that in a long time... I'm editing on virtual private servers (VPS, pre-installed) so I missed things in that I should know
• 483[03:37:26] <magic_ninja> Of course, yea, people should see that kind of thing.
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• 485[03:37:43] <magic_ninja> I'm unfamiliar with LVM in general, so I get that I should have caught that size difference.
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• 488[03:38:14] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: It might still work because your fs is referencing "stuff" from as an offset from the partition start, so maybe it is looking past the end of the partition and getting data from there. Sooner or later that's not going to end well.
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• 490[03:38:49] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Or maybe, likely, it's lvm doing the referencing. Either way, ungood.
• 491[03:38:57] <magic_ninja> I really don't think there is data at the end there
• 492[03:39:14] <magic_ninja> either way, if we are gonna break it, lets break it and be done with it.
• 493[03:39:38] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: Do you have backups?
• 494[03:39:44] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Use dd to overwrite the unpartitioned space (or whatever you did with the space you removed from the partiton) with zeros and see what happens.
• 495[03:39:49] <magic_ninja> don't worry about data loss. I'm okay.
• 496[03:40:06] <magic_ninja> No, I don' thave backups. I'm not too concerned about data loss on this system.
• 497[03:40:46] <karlpinc> After doing so, yes, a fsck would be called for to check for corruption.
• 498[03:42:11] <karlpinc> DarwinElf: The other "hidden" documentation on debian is the readme.debian.
• 499[03:42:19] <karlpinc> !tell DarwinElf about readme.debian
• 500[03:42:24] <magic_ninja> I was thinking of a slightly different approach. My vg is larger than my PV. It only contains the single PV
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• 502[03:42:35] <magic_ninja> can't I just align them?
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• 505[03:43:24] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You could shrink your vg, yes. And still a fsck would be called for afterwords.
• 506[03:43:32] <petn-randall> magic_ninja: Then why not just cleanly reinstall?
• 507[03:43:36] <DarwinElf> thanks
• 508[03:43:42] <magic_ninja> Okay, so I have 12 gigs unallocated at the end of my vg
• 509[03:43:57] <magic_ninja> that should allow me to do that.
• 510[03:44:07] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Did you shrink your partitions because you're using a SSD?
• 511[03:44:30] <magic_ninja> No, I shrunk it to move space out of the vg
• 512[03:44:37] <magic_ninja> add it to another partition.
• 513[03:44:38] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: There is no "end of your vg". Your vg is spread out anywhere in the pvs it is made of.
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• 516[03:45:15] <magic_ninja> well, I should still be able to remove unallocated space given that this is an ssd
• 517[03:45:35] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Yes. If there is unused space in the vg it can be shrunk.
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• 520[03:46:07] <magic_ninja> alright, so I'll boot into live and make their sizes match. Do they need to be exact?
• 521[03:46:25] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You don't need to boot into live. The point of lvm is that you can change things on the system as it runs.
• 522[03:47:23] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: So long as you shrink the vg so it fits inside the pv you can shrink it any amount you want. (But not below the lvs that have been allocated in the vg.)
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• 526[03:49:45] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: If you have hot swapable drives you can completely replace all the drives while the system is running when all the storage is on lvm. (Of course you still have to setup a boot sector/uefi, so it never hurts to reboot after to make sure it will still boot.)
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• 528[03:51:53] <magic_ninja> I don't see any way to change the size of this vg
• 529[03:52:04] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: vgchange
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• 531[03:53:07] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Oops. maybe not.
• 532[03:53:16] <magic_ninja> how am I supposed to change a vg when I'm running on it
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• 535[03:53:36] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You normally pvresize.
• 536[03:54:09] <magic_ninja> so my pv has my vg mounted to it
• 537[03:54:23] <magic_ninja> rather my pv mount point is my vg
• 538[03:54:30] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: Let me look....
• 539[03:54:52] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: You are confusing a pv with a physical partition.
• 540[03:55:13] <magic_ninja> replaced-url
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• 543[03:58:01] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: The short answer is "I don't know". You're getting into compilcated recovery.
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• 547[03:59:37] <magic_ninja> replaced-url
• 548[03:59:44] <magic_ninja> replaced-url
• 549[03:59:55] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: The easy way is to have another pv. Add the pv to your vg. Set your old pv so it won't allocate any more space on it with pvchange. Then do a pvmove, moving your lvs to the new pv. Then remove the old pv from the vg.
• 550[03:59:58] <magic_ninja> karlpinc, okay, that f is cool.
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• 556[04:00:34] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: But that requires a whole bunch of "new disk".
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• 558[04:00:48] <karlpinc> magic_ninja: If you want it to break quickly, go back to the dd idea above.
• 559[04:01:01] <magic_ninja> Well, I would prefer to not break it lol
• 560[04:01:13] <magic_ninja> If it happens to in the process, it isn't the end of the world
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• 562[04:01:23] <mogad0n> Im currently running arch on my t430s
• 563[04:01:29] <mogad0n> i wanted to dual boot
• 564[04:01:32] <mogad0n> debian
• 565[04:02:00] <mogad0n> Im installing the netinst 10.2 pkg
• 566[04:02:06] <mogad0n> i mean dling
• 567[04:02:20] <mogad0n> any advice
• 568[04:02:32] <magic_ninja> Yea, don't necessarily use 3 words a line
• 569[04:02:45] <mogad0n> its a bad habit
• 570[04:02:47] <magic_ninja> Also, if it is a laptop go ahead and get the non-free firmware ISO
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• 572[04:03:27] <magic_ninja> When you get installed, edit apt/sources/sources.list to enable the non-free repo so that you can install wifi drivers. They likely won't work out of the box.
• 573[04:03:40] <magic_ninja> So have a cable handy
• 574[04:04:18] <magic_ninja> apt is your package manager. Basic commands are apt search, apt install, apt remove with an optional --purge flag to remove configs.
• 575[04:04:20] <mogad0n> netinst will allow me to pick right.. im going in bareback.. havent watched any vids etc.. I managed arch without guis i
• 576[04:04:28] <mogad0n> supposed i will do fine
• 577[04:04:41] <magic_ninja> nope
• 578[04:04:51] <magic_ninja> It just does a normal install but downloads the latest packages.
• 579[04:04:56] <magic_ninja> IIRC
• 580[04:05:07] <magic_ninja> I have it has a really bad habbit too
• 581[04:05:14] <mogad0n> :D
• 582[04:05:40] <trui> by pick do you mean desktop/etc? then yes
• 583[04:06:41] <mogad0n> ill RTFW.. i have this extra win10 garbage so i may bug you guys if needed..
• 584[04:06:47] <mogad0n> ttyl
• 585[04:06:51] <mogad0n> and thanks
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• 588[04:07:34] <magic_ninja> mogad0n, well, I didn't mention that. The standard debian install lets you pick the DE. It is pretty nice.
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• 590[04:08:44] <magic_ninja> karlpinc, pvresize /dev/sda3 did the trick
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• 592[04:09:01] <magic_ninja> karlpinc, thank you for pointing me in that direction
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• 597[04:10:16] <trui> you can even pick multiple DEs if you're bored
• 598[04:11:06] <magic_ninja> And they aren't heavily modified. They are very close to upstream.
• 599[04:11:20] <magic_ninja> I've found the DE performance in Debian to be fantastic
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• 602[04:13:46] <trui> i sometimes use this chat as an offtopic chat accidentally instead of using the offtopic chat--because I haven't had any problems with debian but still want to talk about it ;)
• 603[04:14:29] <magic_ninja> I do that with every chat until a mod verbally whips me.
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• 605[04:14:38] <magic_ninja> But I like that sort of thing so I call them daddy and ask for more.
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• 607[04:18:00] <mogad0n> wait so ive chosen the tiny netinst iso.. does this mean i cannot get non free stuff manually
• 608[04:18:09] <mogad0n> i dont want bloat
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• 610[04:18:43] <magic_ninja> You can, from the non-free repo
• 611[04:19:25] <trui> other option is the unofficial non free netinstall
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• 613[04:20:18] <dvs> mogad0n, you can get it after the install, but not during.
• 614[04:21:50] <trui> well, if you need something specific like wifi you can put it on a usb drive and use that when installing, but that's slightly more complicated. as long as you have some internet connection you'll be fine
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• 620[04:25:55] <mogad0n> yeah i have an ethernet cable. also archiso [wifi-menu] command showed me my available networks ... would something like that work for this
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• 665[05:14:01] <karlpinc> mogad0n: It can be very useful to use the unoffical installer with non-free firmware included.
• 666[05:14:05] <karlpinc> !firmware images
• 667[05:14:06] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from replaced-url
• 668[05:14:41] <karlpinc> mogad0n: Using the netinstall means you download only what you install. Otherwise it's all about what you choose to install.
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• 671[05:16:41] <mogad0n> karlpinc whats the difference between the 2 firmware vs firmware edus
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• 686[05:35:34] <karlpinc> mogad0n: I don't understand.
• 687[05:38:00] <karlpinc> mogad0n: See replaced-url
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• 689[05:40:32] <karlpinc> mogad0n: The "edu" version is for debian edu, a version of debian for schools.
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• 771[07:24:29] <f8e3> how to test with ssh if a remote dir exists?
• 772[07:24:59] <f8e3> and then use the error code returnd to distinguish between network error or dir not existent error?
• 773[07:27:17] <jm_> EXIT STATUS
• 774[07:27:17] <jm_> ssh exits with the exit status of the remote command or with 255 if an
• 775[07:27:17] <jm_> error occurred.
• 776[07:27:28] <jm_> that's as best as you can do if you only rely on $?
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• 905[09:19:04] <Emil> Hey if I'm on 10.2 and want to upgrade my kernel to 5.x
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• 907[09:19:33] <Emil> can I just >download from kernel.org, go through make menuconfig (or copy over /boot/confg to .config) and run "make deb-pkg"
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• 910[09:20:23] <Haohmaru> have you checked if there's a 5.x version in backports?
• 911[09:21:02] <Habbie> i run 5.3 from backports
• 912[09:21:27] <Habbie> ,v linux-image-amd64
• 913[09:21:28] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u9; stretch-backports: 4.19+105+deb10u1~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+105+deb10u1; buster-proposed-updates: 4.19+105+deb10u2; buster-backports: 5.3.9-2~bpo10+1; bullseye: 5.3.15-1; sid: 5.4.8-1; experimental: 5.5~rc5-1~exp1
• 914[09:21:37] <Habbie> 5.3.9-2~....
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• 918[09:23:38] <Emil> hmm so I add the backports to sources.list and then I can just install the image I want?
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• 920[09:24:00] <Habbie> Emil, you carefully read the backports docs
• 921[09:24:02] <Habbie> Emil, is what you do
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• 923[09:24:04] <jm_> yes
• 924[09:24:11] <jm_> !bpo kernel
• 925[09:24:11] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the <buster-backports> repository. After modifying your sources.list, run «apt update». To install the current backported kernel: «apt -t buster-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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• 927[09:24:45] <Haohmaru> or you could do all of that via synaptic if ya don't feel like a h4x0r
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• 975[09:50:55] <glick> hi
• 976[09:51:07] <glick> is there anyway to see what time a user ran a certain application?
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• 979[09:52:08] <tarzeau> glick: if it's a single user machine, stat the binary?
• 980[09:52:23] <tarzeau> glick: but not really, no... :)
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• 982[09:52:48] <tarzeau> (the stat will only work if you got the right filesystem, and no noaccess flag in fstab)
• 983[09:52:50] <glick> tarzeau: how do i stat the binary?
• 984[09:52:58] <tarzeau> glick: tell a certain application?
• 985[09:53:09] <tarzeau> stat /usr/bin/protracker for example
• 986[09:53:40] <tarzeau> modify/change is not what you want but the access field
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• 988[09:53:55] <tarzeau> i run protracker, before i had: Access: 2019-12-02 09:26:00.000000000 +0100, after running: Access: 2020-01-09 09:53:34.255205973 +0100
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• 991[09:54:18] <tarzeau> that is also how popularity-contest works
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• 994[09:56:19] <jelly> relatime, which is default mount option for ext4 (and I _think_ xfs) may fuzz access time and only change it once every 24 hours
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• 1004[10:06:30] <ratrace> glick: if you need it for the future, look into running auditd and define rules for executables you wanna watch.
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• 1006[10:09:49] <glick> thanks ratrace
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• 1008[10:10:31] <dob1> is sudo watch command the same as watch 'sudo command' ?
• 1009[10:10:42] <Habbie> no
• 1010[10:10:56] <Habbie> i'd recommend the first one
• 1011[10:11:08] <dob1> what's the difference?
• 1012[10:11:23] <Habbie> the second one checks sudoers every time
• 1013[10:11:31] <dob1> ah ok
• 1014[10:11:37] <Habbie> which, depending on your config, may mean it will ask for a password every time
• 1015[10:11:39] <Habbie> or every x time
• 1016[10:12:00] <dob1> ok
• 1017[10:12:09] <Habbie> also running sudo every time adds overhead you don't need
• 1018[10:12:12] <Habbie> but also may not care about :)
• 1019[10:12:34] <dob1> it's better ther first one then
• 1020[10:12:47] <Habbie> yes, do the first one
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• 1027[10:17:39] <strongestAvenger> thanks to the guys helping me out with virtualbox on parrot (deb based), Turned out I had to manually download a newer version and do a clear virtualbox install, that matches my kernel. Works now thanks to the knowledge in this very channel! Thanks \0/
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• 1097[11:01:28] <timcowchip> whats the deal with sudo nopasswd in buster?
• 1098[11:01:58] <timcowchip> anyone made this work?
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• 1101[11:03:11] <timcowchip> replaced-url
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• 1103[11:03:12] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 1104[11:03:58] <timcowchip> so if I'm not using sudo-ldap?
• 1105[11:03:59] <jelly> [10:03] ~ => sudo id -a
• 1106[11:04:00] <jelly> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),666(free)
• 1107[11:04:02] <jelly> wfm
• 1108[11:04:34] <jelly> jelly ALL=(ALL:ALL)NOPASSWD: ALL
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• 1112[11:06:19] <timcowchip> jelly: I tried similar but no
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• 1114[11:06:40] <timcowchip> even created a wheel group
• 1115[11:06:48] <jelly> timcowchip: did you edit /etc/sudoers or some file in /etc/sudoers.d/* manually?
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• 1118[11:07:12] <timcowchip> I installed vim so I could visudo
• 1119[11:07:29] <jelly> visudo will use any editor
• 1120[11:07:36] <timcowchip> yes
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• 1123[11:07:45] <timcowchip> it used nano at first
• 1124[11:08:23] <timcowchip> how high a number can the GID be?
• 1125[11:08:47] <jelly> not sure, but probably 2*31 - 1
• 1126[11:08:56] <jelly> erm, 2**31 - 1
• 1127[11:09:03] <timcowchip> wheel:x:133
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• 1129[11:09:54] <jelly> timcowchip: pastebin your "grep -v '^#' /etc/sudoers /etc/sudoers.d/*" and "id -a" of the user that sudo fails with.
• 1130[11:10:03] <jelly> !paste
• 1131[11:10:04] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
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• 1133[11:10:20] <jelly> Debian has a "sudo" group instead of wheel.
• 1134[11:10:56] <jelly> (you'll have to run that grep as root, and id as normal user)
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• 1136[11:11:32] <timcowchip> replaced-url
• 1137[11:12:32] <timcowchip> replaced-url
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• 1139[11:12:41] <jelly> timcowchip: and "id -a"? If you just added yourself to group, you need to log out and log back in
• 1140[11:12:55] <timcowchip> I know :)
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• 1142[11:17:23] <timcowchip> ok then
• 1143[11:19:32] <timcowchip> gonna try remove myuser from sudo and wheel and try chris ALL=(ALL:ALL)NOPASSWD: ALL
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• 1145[11:19:45] <timcowchip> brb
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• 1155[11:24:42] <timcowchip> jelly: chris ALL=(ALL:ALL)NOPASSWD: ALL < worked \0/
• 1156[11:25:00] <timcowchip> thanks :)
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• 1159[11:25:57] <sinaptik> Anyone know how to compile i3-gaps from source in debian?
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• 1166[11:29:50] <sinaptik> wait dw I worked it out
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• 1232[12:39:55] <H2Q> hello, after buster upgrade the touchpad doesnt work properly when I switch to the VM
• 1233[12:40:08] <H2Q> the OS of the VM is buster as well
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• 1235[12:40:25] <jolonah> kernel panic in 11 server install
• 1236[12:40:26] <H2Q> VM OS was buster before the upgrade, too
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• 1238[12:40:40] <H2Q> the upgrade was run on the host
• 1239[12:41:38] <H2Q> I tried the suggested solutions here but didnt help; replaced-url
• 1240[12:41:42] <jolonah> btw upgrading booster to sid doesnt has problems and the kp was the daily .iso
• 1241[12:41:45] <jolonah> iirc
• 1242[12:41:56] <H2Q> also ran 'egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps|elan' /proc/bus/input/devices' but there is no output
• 1243[12:42:03] <H2Q> found it here: replaced-url
• 1244[12:42:07] <jolonah> H2Q Bios?
• 1245[12:42:14] <H2Q> jolonah, sorry, how do you mean?
• 1246[12:42:26] <jolonah> if its a laptop
• 1247[12:42:29] <H2Q> yes
• 1248[12:42:43] <H2Q> the bios is shown present
• 1249[12:42:50] <H2Q> when I run dmidecode -t 21
• 1250[12:42:50] <jolonah> i know that happened to me last year
• 1251[12:43:02] <jolonah> it was Acer i5
• 1252[12:43:10] <jolonah> no touchpad
• 1253[12:43:25] <H2Q> the touchpad moves around but not in my full command, and stops somewhere on screen and doesnt move any further
• 1254[12:43:51] <jolonah> try to access your desktop energy system settings
• 1255[12:44:03] <H2Q> energy settings? does it relate to that?
• 1256[12:44:39] <jolonah> not exactly i mean mouse and keyboard
• 1257[12:44:49] <jolonah> try lspci
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• 1259[12:45:51] <jolonah> identify the touchpad and look around if somebody has helped in the problem
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• 1262[12:46:49] <jolonah> if the touchpad moves but you cant click you should activate it inside kde gnome xfce or any
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• 1267[12:50:36] <H2Q> I can click, too, but it makes broken moves, doesnt move where I move it to, or if it does, stops in the middle of the screen and doesnt go further right, left or up, down
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• 1270[12:51:36] <jm_> maybe try some of these replaced-url
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• 1272[12:52:20] <jolonah> connect a usb keyboard
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• 1274[12:53:06] <jolonah> it shouldnt work but you know science scapes logic
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• 1276[12:53:32] <H2Q> in the lspci output I dont see any line that mentions touchpad
• 1277[12:53:42] <diogenes_> make sure neither fingers nor touchpad is greasy, especially touchad must be clean to fnction normally.
• 1278[12:53:57] <H2Q> that is sure not the case
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• 1281[12:54:10] <H2Q> and it works perfectly in the host system
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• 1283[12:55:05] <jolonah> you meant it move left.. borders.. but not center
• 1284[12:55:10] <H2Q> it only messes when I go over any window that belongs to the virt manager
• 1285[12:55:43] <H2Q> it just disappears then
• 1286[12:55:45] <jm_> ahh so touchpad works, just not in guest GUI
• 1287[12:55:52] <diogenes_> H2Q, tried to change the mouse cursor theme?
• 1288[12:55:53] <H2Q> yes
• 1289[12:56:02] <H2Q> no
• 1290[12:56:14] <H2Q> does theme affect anything like that?
• 1291[12:56:37] <jm_> no idea, maybe check how input devices are configured for the guest
• 1292[12:56:45] <diogenes_> H2Q, there were cases when there was no cursor showing because the theme was messed up.\
• 1293[12:56:55] <H2Q> jm_ if I knew how to do them, why would I be here?
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• 1295[12:57:32] <jm_> H2Q: you just mentioned virt manager, so virt-viewer -> View -> Details shows config
• 1296[12:57:57] <jm_> I suppose checking that stuff from ubuntu wiki still applies to guest
• 1297[12:58:07] <H2Q> jm_ there is virt manager, I presume you mean that one
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• 1299[12:59:26] <jm_> H2Q: it's available from virtual machine manager too, if you double click on a VM, it opens virtual machine viewer which has the above mentioned option
• 1300[13:00:20] <H2Q> yes, I know that one, I am there
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• 1302[13:00:40] <jm_> so if you check details you should see your peripheral devices too
• 1303[13:01:12] <jm_> mine only shows mouse and keyboard since there's no touchpad on this system
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• 1308[13:04:08] <H2Q> there under 'add hardware > Input > Type' I see the options EvTouch USB Graphics Tablet / Generic USB Keyboard / Generic USB Mouse / virtual keyboard / virtio tablet' but nothing about touchpad
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• 1313[13:06:39] <jm_> hmm you're right, same here, so it apparently does not provide touchpad directly in guest, I would still test whichever input device is used in guest as described in ubuntu wiki
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• 1326[13:14:33] <qwazx> hey y'all, in this replaced-url
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• 1329[13:15:00] <qwazx> this thing confirms it's not just me: replaced-url
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• 1332[13:16:17] <jm_> from replaced-url
• 1333[13:16:57] <jm_> try this instead replaced-url
• 1334[13:17:18] <jm_> I would check and submit a bug for that manual
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• 1336[13:20:01] <qwazx> this is unreliable(shows down, but it works): replaced-url
• 1337[13:20:06] <qwazx> thanks btw
• 1338[13:21:03] <jm_> there are two more hits for it on salsa.debian.org so try those too
• 1339[13:23:59] <qwazx> I mean, that site downforeveryoneorjustme.com is unreliable
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• 1341[13:24:31] <qwazx> looks like reporting bug(s) seems too hard for me to do right now
• 1342[13:24:46] <jelly> alioth is in fact quite dead, yes
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• 1345[13:24:59] <jelly> !alioth
• 1346[13:25:00] <dpkg> alioth was a GForge/FusionForge based system run by Debian for hosting free sofware and documentation projects. Ailoth was switched off in June 2018 and has been replaced by a GitLab based solution called salsa replaced-url
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• 1353[13:33:51] <qwazx> this seems to be the repo for that manual replaced-url
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• 1357[13:35:19] <qwazx> oh actually, that was a different (.pot) file, here's the updated file: en/kernel.dbk
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• 1359[13:35:24] <qwazx> and has the correct url
• 1360[13:36:00] <qwazx> replaced-url
• 1361[13:36:22] <qwazx> I guess it's just a matter of replaced-url
• 1362[13:36:23] <jm_> \o/
• 1363[13:36:33] <qwazx> version 9.0, 17 November 2018
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• 1365[13:37:30] <qwazx> url was fixed 6 months ago ... I wonder why it wasn't updated
• 1366[13:38:05] <qwazx> this isn't helping me decide between debian and gentoo, gotta say
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• 1370[13:41:33] <qwazx> another one " All the kernel configuration files, which were used to build the official Debian's binary kernel images from the linux-2.6 source package are available from replaced-url
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• 1387[13:49:47] <dob1> how can I capture the output running multiple ssh commands using for example: ssh server 'bash -s' << ENDSSH commands... ENDSSH ?
• 1388[13:50:10] <dob1> *remote commands
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• 1393[13:54:44] <dob1> I would like to redirect it to a file
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• 1409[14:07:51] <dob1> I used (ssh server 'bash -s' << ENDSSH commands... ENDSSH) > file it seems to work
• 1410[14:08:46] <petn-randall> dob1: If you're running something like that by hand, you might want to consider using ansible, or clusterssh.
• 1411[14:09:14] <dob1> petn-randall, I don't know what they are tbh... I search a bit
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• 1414[14:09:42] <dob1> I just hear about ansible
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• 1423[14:14:41] <petn-randall> dob1: ansible is pretty great. You just need ssh to the machines, and then you can write a collection of tasks ("playbooks") that define what you want to do on those machines.
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• 1426[14:15:10] <petn-randall> The nice thing is that all the error handling and idempotency is already built-in, so you don't have to care about that at all.
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• 1428[14:16:04] <jelly> well you also need python on the remote.
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• 1439[14:27:34] <dob1> I will take a look, now I am doing this using the heredoc of ssh but what I don't like is that if I get connection timeout the script continues. it doesn't top
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• 1457[14:35:37] <wwilliam> Hello can anyone advise and may be provide a link on a how to on how to have all users log in with their regular user names , su to root if need it and once they are root log all commands they do so the users can be audited?
• 1458[14:35:39] <wwilliam> 'Thank you.
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• 1460[14:37:17] <karlpinc> wwilliam: If you want that sort of auditing the traditional approach is to use sudo instead of su. But you have to trust the users to sudo each command instead of, say "sudo bash".
• 1461[14:38:14] <nkuttler> or configure sudo and only allow specific commands
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• 1463[14:38:48] <nkuttler> with root access auditing would be pretty easy to bypass anyway
• 1464[14:39:20] <wwilliam> Well there are a few people that need to be root what about log in as regular user and whoever can be root do sudo -i and then start login knowing the real user?
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• 1474[14:48:08] <jolt> wwilliam: you can run auditd and send the logs to somewhere where root can't remove them (regardless of how they become root).
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• 1479[14:49:14] <jolt> wwilliam: just found out about snoopy if auditd is to much of a hassle: replaced-url
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• 1482[14:50:34] <wwilliam> thanks jolt will check.
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• 1504[15:00:09] <H2Q> I would like to thank (!) all the people who were here last week and told me stretch was outdated and that I was the veriest weirdo using it still. they know the best, obviously, as always. now I upgraded to buster and my touchpad is gone. hours of fixing effort for nothing.
• 1505[15:00:31] <H2Q> buster is the buggiest debian I have seen yet
• 1506[15:00:48] <H2Q> there are further matters with programs
• 1507[15:00:51] <jolt> H2Q: sorry for the hindsight, but always backup/clone before upgrade
• 1508[15:00:56] <H2Q> jolt, I did
• 1509[15:00:59] <H2Q> that is not the point
• 1510[15:01:16] <H2Q> do you have an idea how much it would take me to reinstall?
• 1511[15:02:00] <H2Q> the biggest sin of some people in linux society is to hide the bug. if you do that, that is pure marketing. you are no different.
• 1512[15:02:19] <wwilliam> I have this error installing and running snoopy
• 1513[15:02:20] <wwilliam> replaced-url
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• 1516[15:03:32] <jolt> wwilliam: Sorry, I said I just found it, I have not used it. But since I file is missing it's good to search for it on packages.debian.org (at the bottom)
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• 1520[15:04:11] <section1> wwilliam, whats the output of: ls -l /lib/libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
• 1521[15:04:40] <wwilliam> root@debian:~#ls -l /lib/libsnoopy.so
• 1522[15:04:42] <wwilliam> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jun 20 2015 /lib/libsnoopy.so -> libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
• 1523[15:05:16] <wwilliam> sorry
• 1524[15:05:17] <section1> heh ..check the file i put
• 1525[15:05:18] <wwilliam> root@debian:~#ls -l libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
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• 1527[15:05:19] <wwilliam> ls: cannot access 'libsnoopy.so.0.0.0': No such file or directory
• 1528[15:05:21] <section1> its ok
• 1529[15:05:27] <section1> thats the problem
• 1530[15:05:34] <wwilliam> oh
• 1531[15:05:35] <section1> is a broken symlink
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• 1533[15:06:08] <section1> wait
• 1534[15:06:13] <wwilliam> ok
• 1535[15:06:13] <section1> ls -l /lib/libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
• 1536[15:06:16] <section1> that one
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• 1538[15:06:42] <wwilliam> ls -l /lib/libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
• 1539[15:06:43] <wwilliam> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27776 Jun 20 2015 /lib/libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
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• 1541[15:07:25] <section1> try chmod 755 /lib/libsnoopy.so.0.0.0
• 1542[15:07:49] <wwilliam> :)
• 1543[15:07:53] <section1> and try to run again...most of the libs no need x but doon't know
• 1544[15:08:13] <Akuw_> i am trying to reset root password, but after add "init=/bin/bash" to grub when boot i can type any character, is like keyboard doesnt work
• 1545[15:08:14] <wwilliam> SNOOPY: Hint #1: Reboot your machine to load snoopy system-wide.
• 1546[15:08:16] <wwilliam> SNOOPY: Hint #2: Check your log files for output.
• 1547[15:08:17] <wwilliam> SNOOPY: Enabled
• 1548[15:08:45] <section1> vool
• 1549[15:08:48] <section1> c
• 1550[15:09:00] <wwilliam> rebooting...
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• 1552[15:09:26] <wwilliam> YvRLF123
• 1553[15:09:45] <wwilliam> oops
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• 1558[15:11:01] <section1> Akuw_, maybe something with systemd.............
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• 1561[15:12:41] <Akuw_> replaced-url
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• 1563[15:13:39] <section1> Image does not exist
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• 1566[15:14:53] <Akuw_> replaced-url
• 1567[15:15:01] <Akuw_> i am looking
• 1568[15:16:14] <Akuw_> sorry
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• 1570[15:16:18] <Akuw_> now is ok replaced-url
• 1571[15:16:26] <Haohmaru> uh uh
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• 1581[15:28:19] <wwilliam> section1: thank you.
• 1582[15:28:30] <Sanderei> Hi
• 1583[15:28:34] <section1> wwilliam, np
• 1584[15:28:51] <Sanderei> Installed Xorg, but Startx doesn't work
• 1585[15:28:53] <Sanderei> help
• 1586[15:29:37] <Sanderei> section1 Can you help with Xorg please?
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• 1588[15:30:02] <wwilliam> I will head now to #snoopy I do not see any logs in /var/log/auth.log
• 1589[15:30:57] <wwilliam> #snoopy does not exist bad luck.
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• 1591[15:31:41] <section1> Sanderei, do you have an error or something ?
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• 1593[15:32:09] <Sanderei> section1 yeah, connection refused
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• 1595[15:32:59] <Sanderei> section1 here: sanderdenhollander12@penguin:~$ startx/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X serverxinit: giving upxinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refusedxinit: server error
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• 1601[15:35:36] <section1> i think that is the change about xorg and suid.
• 1602[15:35:45] <H2Q> my touchpad is borked after buster upgrade. I've been wrestling with this for hours. can someone perhaps help me?
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• 1606[15:36:04] <Sanderei> section1: What can I do about it?
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• 1608[15:37:32] <gvth> Hi; I have a serious problem! Sporadically, my display turns black with a green line on the left for about 10 secs and my laptop then shuts down coldly. It usually happened once every couple of months but it happened yesterday and 5 mins ago. Any ideas?
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• 1612[15:38:07] <Akuw> i am getting Failed to start login service
• 1613[15:38:10] <section1> Sanderei, you are logged in a tty ? or pts ?
• 1614[15:38:23] <H2Q> great. some idiots here bashed me and treated me like a 'retard' for still using stretch. where are they now?
• 1615[15:38:35] <H2Q> as I said recently, what has become of debian
• 1616[15:38:58] <Sanderei> section1 What's the difference? and how can I see that?
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• 1619[15:39:16] <Sanderei> H2Q: I'm also still using stretch
• 1620[15:39:20] <H2Q> yes
• 1621[15:39:50] <H2Q> there are some suckers here who are only here to wait for people to ask questions in order to show that they -and only they- know the best
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• 1623[15:40:14] <colo-work> shit, have I been spotted?!
• 1624[15:40:31] <jelly> H2Q: that seems somewhat unlikely
• 1625[15:40:44] <H2Q> oh well it is not
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• 1627[15:40:51] <H2Q> perfectly real
• 1628[15:40:52] <jelly> bashing for oldstable use, I mean
• 1629[15:41:03] <H2Q> well go check the logs
• 1630[15:41:09] <section1> Sanderei, tty is a physical console ...pts are llike a ssh and maybe others virtual console/terminals
• 1631[15:41:12] <Akuw> jelly: hi, i am getting "Failed to start login service"
• 1632[15:41:25] <H2Q> that greycat guy in particular
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• 1634[15:41:34] <themill> H2Q: maybe asking for help to fix the problem would be more useful
• 1635[15:41:39] <jelly> Akuw: hi, I don't take personal requests for free. Ask the channel or ask in private for a quote.
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• 1637[15:42:02] <H2Q> themill, I did
• 1638[15:42:04] <H2Q> above
• 1639[15:42:06] <Akuw> hehehehe
• 1640[15:42:09] <themill> H2Q: no
• 1641[15:42:14] <themill> !as
• 1642[15:42:14] <dpkg> rumour has it, as is autosearch: install apt-file and use apt-cache search <packagename> and/or apt-file search <name> , do it yourself. Don't forget to run apt-file update ;)
• 1643[15:42:16] <themill> !ask
• 1644[15:42:17] <Akuw> jelly: are you windows user ?
• 1645[15:42:18] <Akuw> lol
• 1646[15:42:21] <themill> bah
• 1647[15:42:56] <themill> H2Q: ask questions, provide details, tell the channel what is wrong. The more you rant, the less likely anyone will help you
• 1648[15:43:01] <Sanderei> section1 I'm using just a terminal and it may be virtual but I don't now
• 1649[15:43:06] <Akuw> the problem was i override passwd
• 1650[15:43:19] <jelly> Akuw: I use whatever gets the job done, and sometimes (not always) that's Windows, sure, but usually that is not relevant to #debian
• 1651[15:43:22] <H2Q> my touchpad is borked after buster upgrade. I've been wrestling with this for hours. can someone perhaps help me?
• 1652[15:43:29] <H2Q> for those who cant find it
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• 1654[15:44:18] <H2Q> xinput, synaptics, proc..checked all. touchpad not detected
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• 1656[15:45:56] <Akuw> why after modify grub line with init=/bin/bash to reset root password when boot i cnt type any char
• 1657[15:46:06] <section1> Sanderei, can you pastebin the output of the command: w
• 1658[15:46:47] <Sanderei> section1 sanderdenhollander12@penguin:~$ w 15:46:27 up 1:39, 0 users, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.20USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHATsanderdenhollander12@penguin:~$
• 1659[15:47:07] <section1> there is no user.
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• 1661[15:48:24] <Sanderei> Aha
• 1662[15:48:44] <section1> if you run tty ?
• 1663[15:48:52] <section1> what is the output
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• 1665[15:49:37] <Sanderei> Output is /dev/pts/0
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• 1667[15:49:48] <section1> ok
• 1668[15:49:50] <section1> not a tty
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• 1673[15:50:12] <Sanderei> I'm working on a chromebook
• 1674[15:50:32] <Sanderei> so how do I go to the original terminal
• 1675[15:50:56] <section1> sure you are in a xorg session
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• 1677[15:51:34] <Sanderei> No, because I manually installed it
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• 1679[15:51:58] <Sanderei> Maybe wayland, because that's the screen output
• 1680[15:51:59] <section1> ps axu | grep -i xorg
• 1681[15:52:11] <section1> maybe that too.
• 1682[15:52:21] <Sanderei> sanderd+ 14187 0.0 0.0 12784 944 pts/0 S+ 15:52 0:00 grep -i xorg
• 1683[15:52:27] <section1> ok
• 1684[15:52:39] <section1> not familiar with wayland
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• 1686[15:53:15] <section1> original terminal ?
• 1687[15:53:57] <Sanderei> Shall I create a user?
• 1688[15:53:57] <Sanderei> To go to Xorg?
• 1689[15:53:58] <Sanderei> An user *
• 1690[15:53:59] <Sanderei> section1
• 1691[15:54:17] <Sanderei> But how do I go to the original terminal
• 1692[15:54:24] <Sanderei> I can use sudo in it
• 1693[15:54:42] <section1> sanderdenhollander12 is your user
• 1694[15:54:59] <Sanderei> Yeah, but you said that there is no user
• 1695[15:55:15] <section1> in the output of w
• 1696[15:55:36] <Sanderei> And how do I put an user in W?
• 1697[15:55:43] <section1> in my system i see something like section1 tty7 :0 08:06 121days 4:31 0.01s /usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bin/startkde
• 1698[15:56:04] <section1> when you log to the system shows with that command
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• 1701[15:56:22] <Sanderei> I will create a new user to look what happens
• 1702[15:56:26] <section1> ok
• 1703[15:56:40] <section1> you have to run startx from a tty
• 1704[15:56:58] <Sanderei> But how do I go to TTY]
• 1705[15:58:11] <section1> control-alt-f1
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• 1707[15:58:26] <section1> to tty1 -f2 to tt2
• 1708[15:58:28] <section1> etc
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• 1711[16:00:12] <Sanderei> I don't have alt-F1
• 1712[16:00:16] <Sanderei> wait
• 1713[16:00:35] <joepublic> sometimes on a laptop it can be alt-fn-f1
• 1714[16:01:18] <section1> Sanderei, why you dont use a gdm ?
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• 1716[16:01:34] <Sanderei> I have a chromebook
• 1717[16:01:44] <Sanderei> but I found the solution
• 1718[16:01:59] <Sanderei> Search button plus buttons above
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• 1721[16:03:05] <Sanderei> ctrl-alt-F1 doesn't work
• 1722[16:03:19] <section1> f2?
• 1723[16:03:37] <Sanderei> no
• 1724[16:03:39] <Sanderei> either
• 1725[16:03:47] <section1> you are running debian ?
• 1726[16:04:28] <Sanderei> yes, on a chromebook with chrome OS on it
• 1727[16:04:44] <Sanderei> Does Xterm or UXterm count as tty?
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• 1729[16:04:49] <section1> no
• 1730[16:05:04] <H2Q> jm_ are you still there?
• 1731[16:05:10] <section1> i think you are running a chroot debian ?
• 1732[16:05:52] <H2Q> apparently not. the issue is solved.
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• 1735[16:06:44] <Sanderei> section1 maybe, idk
• 1736[16:07:03] <Sanderei> I added an user. How do I log into the user
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• 1744[16:09:20] <section1> Sanderei, i think if you are running a debian boostrap o chroot debian...your best option is running some class of vnc.
• 1745[16:09:22] <Sanderei> Added user, by using w command user is also 0 section1
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• 1747[16:09:49] <section1> yeah.. "w" shows the current logged users.
• 1748[16:09:52] <Sanderei> Ok and what is the best way to set that up?
• 1749[16:10:32] <section1> how do you "install" debian in that chromebook ?
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• 1751[16:12:31] <Sanderei> section1 what is the best way to set up a vnc server
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• 1755[16:14:50] <Sanderei> section1 sorry ping timeout, did you say something?
• 1756[16:14:58] <section1> Sanderei, check this guide replaced-url
• 1757[16:15:10] <Sanderei> ok
• 1758[16:15:11] <section1> something like that should work
• 1759[16:15:16] <Sanderei> a moment please
• 1760[16:15:39] <section1> you will need a vnc client in the chromebook
• 1761[16:15:46] <section1> chromebook OS
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• 1766[16:17:09] <Sanderei> ok
• 1767[16:17:27] <section1> never is use a chromebook so still i don't know how you put debian in there.
• 1768[16:17:30] <Sanderei> But now I can't login again in my original account
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• 1772[16:18:01] <Sanderei> In chrome OS 79, you can activate it via the settings menu
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• 1774[16:18:40] <section1> activate whaat ?
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• 1777[16:19:03] <Sanderei> linux
• 1778[16:19:10] <Akuw_> can help with "Failed to start login service" ?
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• 1780[16:19:16] <Sanderei> Go to the chapter linux and click download or activate
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• 1788[16:22:38] <nolaan> HI guys, I've package my application with a file in /etc when I upgrade the package that file gets deleted but the new one is not installed.
• 1789[16:22:48] <nolaan> I don't understand why
• 1790[16:23:13] <Sanderei> section1 the output of startin vnc server: vncserver :1 -geometry 1920x1080 -localhost yesWarning: penguin:1 is taken because of /tmp/.X11-unix/X1Remove this file if there is no X server penguin:1A VNC/X11 server is already running as :1 on machine penguin[1]+ Exit 127 exec /usr/bin/mate-sessionsanderdenhollander12@penguin:~$
• 1791[16:23:32] <section1> ah.. its not debian that...what is your goal Sanderei ?
• 1792[16:23:44] <Sanderei> not debian??
• 1793[16:23:49] <Sanderei> what??
• 1794[16:23:55] <Sanderei> that can't be real
• 1795[16:24:05] <section1> vncserver :2 -geometry 1920x1080 -localhost yes
• 1796[16:24:07] <section1> try that
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• 1799[16:24:25] <section1> yeah not debian....
• 1800[16:24:40] <section1> where you read that is debain ?
• 1801[16:24:41] <Sanderei> That worked out
• 1802[16:24:51] <section1> debian*
• 1803[16:25:12] <Sanderei> Because if you install chromium you get the tools for debian
• 1804[16:25:34] <Sanderei> And if you check the version it is debian 9.11
• 1805[16:25:39] <karlpinc> section1: It really is debian. Whatever it installs comes from the stock debian repos. (Although of course it uses the chromebook's kernel.)
• 1806[16:26:06] <Sanderei> hey karlpinc welcome back
• 1807[16:26:08] <section1> oh ok ...i was thinking they are using some debian packages.
• 1808[16:26:15] <Sanderei> nono
• 1809[16:26:31] <Sanderei> They use the original debian repositorys
• 1810[16:26:37] <karlpinc> section1: Some sort of lxc container.
• 1811[16:26:45] <section1> ok
• 1812[16:27:40] <Sanderei> But how do I connect to vnc?
• 1813[16:27:50] <Sanderei> I have VNC installed
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• 1815[16:28:11] <section1> with some vnc client.
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• 1817[16:28:25] <section1> use 127.0.0.1 as server ip
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• 1820[16:29:38] <Sanderei> section1 karlpinc is it started or not? :Thu Jan 9 16:24:30 2020 vncext: VNC extension running! vncext: Listening for VNC connections on local interface(s), port 5902 vncext: created VNC server for screen 0XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":2"^M after 173 requests (173 known processed) with
• 1821[16:29:39] <Sanderei> 0 events remaining.^MKilling Xtigervnc process ID 14842... success!
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• 1823[16:30:23] <section1> Resource temporarily unavailable
• 1824[16:30:34] <Sanderei> yeah
• 1825[16:30:35] <section1> something goes wrong.
• 1826[16:30:52] <Sanderei> but how do I fix THAT?? what a problems here
• 1827[16:31:08] <section1> what is your goall ?
• 1828[16:31:26] <section1> you can run debian apps without running xorg/startx
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• 1837[16:33:27] <debusr> I have a long list of String. It looks like 'List(Name(john,456), Name(brown,123),...)' In vim, how can I wrap the person name e.g. john, brown with double quote? I tried g/(\(.*\),/s//(\"\1\",/g But it only highlights the entire string w/o any change.
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• 1843[16:39:23] <dvs> debusr, maybe put a question mark after the asterisk to make it a "non-greedy" match?
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• 1845[16:39:59] <debusr> thanks! let me try it.
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• 1848[16:40:40] <jelly> debusr: ask in #vim if you don't get an answer here. Using sed, I'd just match Name( and , eg. s/Name\(([^,]*),/Name("\1",/g
• 1849[16:41:41] <jelly> echo 'List(Name(john,456), Name(brown,123),...)' | sed -r 's/Name\(([^,]*),/Name("\1",/g'
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• 1855[16:47:45] <Haohmaru> <eyes_shattered.gif>
• 1856[16:48:45] <jelly> make sure not to visit #regex ever
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• 1860[16:51:16] <dvs> s/always/never/g
• 1861[16:51:26] <Haohmaru> if i make a comic, imma use regexp snippets for censoring text in the bubbles
• 1862[16:52:03] <Haohmaru> but i bet someone is already doing it.. i couldn't tell
• 1863[16:52:03] <wwilliam> root@debian:/home/afernandez#chown developer:developer 225bak/
• 1864[16:52:05] <wwilliam> chown: changing ownership of '225bak/': Operation not permitted
• 1865[16:52:06] <wwilliam> why?
• 1866[16:52:09] <Haohmaru> (*&#&*@&!*&$ is all the same to me
• 1867[16:52:32] <debusr> jelly thanks for the advice!
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• 1869[16:53:10] <dvs> wwilliam, you don't own 225bak?
• 1870[16:53:15] <wwilliam> im root
• 1871[16:53:29] <dvs> wwilliam, the device it's on is read-only?
• 1872[16:54:15] <dvs> or try it without the last /
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• 1874[16:54:39] <wwilliam> root@debian:/home/afernandez#chown developer:developer 225bak
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• 1876[16:54:41] <wwilliam> chown: changing ownership of '225bak': Operation not permitted
• 1877[16:54:49] <wwilliam> not the device is not read only
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• 1879[16:55:08] <section1> selinux ?
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• 1881[16:55:19] <tomreyn> which file system?
• 1882[16:55:35] <wwilliam> dev/mapper/debian--vg-home ext4 117G 11G 101G 10% /home
• 1883[16:56:14] <wwilliam> root@debian:/home/afernandez#getenforce
• 1884[16:56:16] <wwilliam> -su: getenforce: command not found
• 1885[16:56:31] <wwilliam> root@debian:/home/afernandez#sestatus
• 1886[16:56:32] <wwilliam> -su: sestatus: command not found
• 1887[16:57:10] <wwilliam> /dev/mapper/debian--vg-home /home ext4 defaults 0 2
• 1888[16:57:11] <debusr> jelly another question. I use the RE you provided. It works. But I am not sure its meaning. Name\( means to capture the Name( literally. And () outside [^,]* means the group of [^,]*. Then [^,]* denotes any characters. Amy I correct?
• 1889[16:57:23] <debusr> Am* I correct
• 1890[16:57:24] <tomreyn> grep vg-home /proc/mounts
• 1891[16:57:40] <wwilliam> grep vg-home /proc/mounts
• 1892[16:57:41] <wwilliam> /dev/mapper/debian--vg-home /home ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
• 1893[16:58:20] <tomreyn> hmm, and when you stat 225bak/
• 1894[16:58:36] <tomreyn> + lsattr
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• 1896[16:59:54] <dvs> debusr, [^,]* matches any character except the comma which is at the end of the name
• 1897[17:00:01] <wwilliam> replaced-url
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• 1900[17:01:02] <wwilliam> replaced-url
• 1901[17:01:06] <debusr> dvs RE is still a myth for me. Thank you for the explanation. Appreciate it!
• 1902[17:01:13] <dvs> np
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• 1904[17:01:53] <tomreyn> wwilliam: idempotent
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• 1906[17:02:10] <tomreyn> wwilliam: chattr -i
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• 1908[17:03:04] <tomreyn> s/idempotent/immutable/
• 1909[17:03:32] <tomreyn> ^ whoops
• 1910[17:03:39] <wwilliam> i dont have idempotent
• 1911[17:04:18] <wwilliam> apt install itamae?
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• 1913[17:04:22] <tomreyn> wwilliam: what i meant to say is that the extended file system attribute "i" is set for this directory according to your "lsattr" output.
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• 1915[17:04:40] <wwilliam> ok how do we remove that?
• 1916[17:04:41] <tomreyn> wwilliam: ignore "idempotent", i actually meant "immutable"
• 1917[17:04:48] <wwilliam> oh ok
• 1918[17:05:13] <tomreyn> "chattr" is the command to modify extended file system attributes on ext* file systems
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• 1920[17:05:35] <tomreyn> (also btrfs, xfs)
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• 1926[17:07:39] <tomreyn> wwilliam: so you may want: chattr -R -i 225bak
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• 1928[17:08:06] <wwilliam> chattr -Ri 225bak/
• 1929[17:08:10] <wwilliam> that did it
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• 1931[17:08:24] <wwilliam> thanks tomreyn for your time and knowledge
• 1932[17:08:26] <tomreyn> but it's a bit unusual that you'd see immutable files and aren't aware of the fact that they are.
• 1933[17:08:32] <wwilliam> root@debian:/home/afernandez#chown developer:developer 225bak
• 1934[17:08:33] <wwilliam> root@debian:/home/afernandez#ls -ld 225bak/
• 1935[17:08:34] <wwilliam> drwxr-xr-x 2 developer developer 4096 Nov 12 10:27 225bak/
• 1936[17:08:45] <section1> devs
• 1937[17:08:47] <section1> lol
• 1938[17:08:50] <wwilliam> I was playing with that a while back
• 1939[17:08:51] <tomreyn> maybe this developer had good reasons to mark them as that
• 1940[17:08:58] <tomreyn> ok
• 1941[17:09:13] <wwilliam> :)
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• 1945[17:11:26] <gvth> Hi; my laptop just shut down coldly the second time today. Help in finding the cause is greatly appreciated because I need the computer to work. Thanks in advance.
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• 1949[17:13:41] <tomreyn> gvth: which debian do you have running there?
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• 1953[17:14:41] <tomreyn> if you don't know: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
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• 1957[17:17:44] <Akuw_> Failed to start login service
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• 1964[17:23:24] <fourfactorial> gvth: i've seen a laptop turn itself off sponaneously. this was due to overheating. the fan was broken i think.
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• 1967[17:25:14] <fourfactorial> gvth: if you have bios settings to make your computer go slower, try them.
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• 2021[18:05:50] <generic> my /var/log/messages was more than one gb how do I prevent these events from being saved ?
• 2022[18:05:50] <generic> stop sysklogd?
• 2023[18:05:51] <generic> kern.log was over 1 gb too
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• 2034[18:08:06] <jhutchins_wk> generic: You make sure logrotate is configured correctly. The defaults are usually adequate and reasonable.
• 2035[18:08:19] <jhutchins_wk> You want those logs when something goes wrong.
• 2036[18:08:48] <jhutchins_wk> generic: You can frequently set the log level in the config file for an app.
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• 2047[18:20:15] <jhutchins_wk> Is there a way to reload the current page in incognito mode with chrome?
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• 2050[18:21:41] <OerHeks> maybe page back, page forward?
• 2051[18:21:52] <gargaml> Hi, I’m trying to configure a bridge. It works perfectly with ip based commands (ip link and ip addr) but I can’t make it work with /etc/network/interfaces
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• 2054[18:24:07] <gargaml> Here are the commands I have been running with ip : replaced-url
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• 2057[18:24:46] <gargaml> when I try to configure it with /etc/network/interfaces it does not even appear in the list provided by ip a
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• 2059[18:28:48] <Guest68255> I'm researching for a new equipment purchase; comparing NVIDIA and AMD GPU offerings, mainly w/re: open-source principles, ownership and trust -- how does NVIDIA look in this regard lately? Is nouveau up to snuff; compare to amdgpu?
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• 2072[18:35:50] <petn-randall> nmschulte: amd is doing more FOSS work in that regard. AFAIK they open-sourced their linux drivers.
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• 2084[18:42:53] <noahmg123> My laptop, which I have installed Debian onto, cannot connect to certain WiFi networks (specifically the ones at my school). The DHCP client fails to get an IP address. The difference between these networks and ones it can connect to is that my school's networks have multiple repeaters (or similar equipment) across campus, so there are multiple BSSIDs with the same SSID.
• 2085[18:43:23] <petn-randall> noahmg123: Do you have the firmware to your wifi device installed?
• 2086[18:44:06] <petn-randall> noahmg123: Most wifi devices have burned-in firmware that is buggy/unusable, and then the manufacturers ship usable firmware with the drivers.
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• 2088[18:45:13] <noahmg123> petn-randall: Yes I do. The WiFi interface works on all the networks I've tried, except for my school's networks.
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• 2091[18:45:41] <annadane> nvidia plans to be "more cooperative" or whatever in future
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• 2095[18:46:50] <jhutchins_wk> noahmg123: Have you asked if there are any special requirements for school networking?
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• 2099[18:47:44] <noahmg123> jhutchins_wk: No, but this has worked before on Linux. I upgraded to a new laptop and now it's not working on this new laptop.
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• 2111[18:58:18] <nmschulte> annadane, they're still claiming that, eh?
• 2112[18:58:34] <annadane> yep
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• 2114[18:58:43] <jelly> don't hold your breath
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• 2121[18:59:39] <petn-randall> I'm Guybrush Threepwoord, and a might pirate! I can hold my breath for 10 minutes!
• 2122[18:59:46] <petn-randall> *Threepwood
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• 2125[19:01:38] <petn-randall> *mighty
• 2126[19:01:44] <petn-randall> I can't even type for crap today.
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• 2128[19:02:15] <annadane> i like how companies can just ignore their customers while simultaneously pretending to care
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• 2130[19:02:18] <annadane> it's very endearing
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• 2134[19:05:22] <petn-randall> It's called virtue signalling.
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• 2136[19:06:27] <annadane> they wouldn't get away with it if they weren't in power but they use that very same power to remind us how much they care
• 2137[19:06:37] <annadane> no, i'm not upset
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• 2139[19:07:44] <nmschulte> replaced-url
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• 2148[19:13:13] <Strife89> I have a laptop, c. 2017, with an HDD with Windows 10 on it. I'm preparing to install a (SATA) SSD, which I cloned Win10 to, and an M.2 SSD, which I want to install Debian on. The end goal is to have GRUB boot first from EFI, and be able to pick Debian or Windows on each startup. I have such a setup working on my desktop - but that still has a traditional BIOS from what I can tell. I don't know whether the desired
• 2149[19:13:13] <Strife89> behavior works when both OSes are set up for EFI/Secure Boot. I also don't yet know whether my laptop EFI will let me select a boot drive, or default to a priority.
• 2150[19:13:48] <Strife89> Any advice on how to best approach this?
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• 2152[19:14:16] <petn-randall> Strife89: Just boot Debian's grub bootloader, and there you can also select Windows.
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• 2154[19:14:56] <petn-randall> Strife89: The other option is to press the boot menu key when your BIOS still shows, and then select Windows' EFI entry.
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• 2157[19:15:44] <Strife89> The first option is how I set it up on my desktop, petn-randall
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• 2160[19:17:56] <petn-randall> Strife89: Yes, that'll also work when booting from pure UEFI.
• 2161[19:18:00] <Strife89> And if I can avoid it, I don't want to put the laptop into BIOS emulation mode. I'm not even sure whether that will boot the GPT-formatted disks
• 2162[19:19:10] <Strife89> Oh, so then I just need to figure out which disk UEFI will try first, right? Or find a way to point it to the one with GRUB.
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• 2164[19:19:49] <johnfg> hi folks!
• 2165[19:20:16] <johnfg> Well, openvpn is working. Not sure exactly how I got it, but it's good.
• 2166[19:20:46] <johnfg> Have a problem now with interaction between libreoffice and openafs that didn't exist before upgrading to buster.
• 2167[19:21:08] <Strife89> Once I install the M.2 drive, I'll leave the SATA Bay empty, start the laptop and install Debian (so the EFI doesn't try to start Windows first), then shut install the SATA SSD with Win10, and run update-grub in Debian.
• 2168[19:21:35] <Strife89> *then shut down
• 2169[19:21:39] <johnfg> I get my kerberos ticket, and openafs token, no problem.
• 2170[19:21:54] <johnfg> I can peruse my cell as much as I want from the cli.
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• 2172[19:23:59] <johnfg> And actually, having just checked, doc viewer can't access my cell, nor can libreoffice.
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• 2176[19:31:14] <Strife89> Second thought: how bad would it be if I switched which OS went on each drive?
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• 2178[19:31:25] <Strife89> Debian on the SATA disk, Win10 on the M.2
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• 2180[19:32:04] <johnfg> But those programs fail, with: Error opening '/afs/spirit.org/home/johnfg/<file>': Permission denied
• 2181[19:32:33] <johnfg> I don't find anything written to syslog, or anywhere else I can think of.
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• 2183[19:32:51] <johnfg> I access all fine from my stretch server, and from the windows clients.
• 2184[19:32:53] <Strife89> Reasoning: I have nothing else which uses an M.2 slot, and Windows doesn't behave so well if it's suddenly moved to new hardware; while Linux will generally work without any issues if the hardware changes.
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• 2194[19:35:35] <greycat> AFS? Damn, I've only heard about that in myths and legends.
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• 2198[19:38:00] <Strife89> Crud, the M.2 didn't include a mounting screw
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• 2202[19:40:22] <johnfg> greycat: Ha! You should try it out!
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• 2206[19:44:05] <Strife89> AFS==Apple File Service?
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• 2209[19:44:44] <greycat> I think it's replaced-url
• 2210[19:44:56] <johnfg> greycat: Looks like it's a problem with systemd, and systemd --user. openafs is looking for a patch that addresses the problem (fixes, i.e.).
• 2211[19:45:38] <Strife89> Oh, wow
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• 2213[19:47:14] <Strife89> Per Wikipedia: "As needed, AFS administrators can move that volume to another server and disk location without the need to notify users; the operation can even occur while files in that volume are being used." What witchcraft is this
• 2214[19:47:38] <johnfg> Andrew distributed file system.
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• 2216[19:48:08] <johnfg> I've had debian running my openafs server for years now.
• 2217[19:48:43] <johnfg> Only problem I ever had with openafs, was harddrive failure. Not openafs's fault.
• 2218[19:49:03] <Strife89> And here I thought zfs was black magic
• 2219[19:49:29] <johnfg> zfs of course is on a different plane altogether.
• 2220[19:50:07] <noahmg123> Are there any specific logs I can look at for more information about DHCP requests timing out?
• 2221[19:50:12] <johnfg> I've played around with it in a vm with various distros, but never switched to production.
• 2222[19:50:42] <petn-randall> noahmg123: You could use wireshark to read what's going on on the wire(less).
• 2223[19:51:04] <noahmg123> That's an idea. I'll look into that.
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• 2228[19:53:33] <kreyren> Which package do i need to get PCI network card EDIMAX - EN-9260TX-E to work on debian assuming that these modules are loaded on systemrescuecd which works (replaced-url
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• 2231[19:55:07] <petn-randall> kreyren: Did you test it in Debian? Because I'd assume it is just "plug and play".
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• 2233[19:55:47] <kreyren> petn-randall: I tested it on my debian which is built from scratch so the result may vary i didn't get any non-free software on it
• 2234[19:55:57] <kreyren> not sure if this is non-free only hardware
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• 2236[19:56:32] <kreyren> i am currently on the affected system using systemrescuecd btw
• 2237[19:56:52] <petn-randall> kreyren: I'm confused. How is it Debian, but built from scratch? LFS is a different project.
• 2238[19:57:21] <kreyren> petn-randall: FSH-3.0 + coreutils + binutils + toolchain and apt with debian testing sources
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• 2240[19:59:01] <kreyren> (without non-free)
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• 2242[19:59:10] <kreyren> well i have steam but that's all from non-free afaik
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• 2245[20:00:33] <f8e3> why are there thounds shells: replaced-url
• 2246[20:01:01] <f8e3> why do ppl not agree on one, a superset but everyone doe sits own and newbie donest know what to learn/comply with
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• 2248[20:01:46] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2249[20:01:51] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2250[20:01:58] * greycat glares at the mouse
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• 2254[20:03:08] <kreyren> based on replaced-url
• 2255[20:03:15] <kreyren> trying again switching on kreyren[m]
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• 2258[20:03:25] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Is there an existing program for obtaining/making frequency distribution of file-sizes on disk?
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• 2260[20:03:46] <petn-randall> Aurora_iz_kosmos: baobab?
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• 2264[20:06:16] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Seems more equivalent to running $(du -d0 -h $folder)
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• 2267[20:06:55] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> I'm looking for frequency-distribution of sizes to optimize block-sizes on an overlay filesystem.
• 2268[20:07:57] <greycat> Well, you could use find -printf, or possibly some flavor of du, to get an intermediate output stream with numbers in a column. Then you can use whatever tool you want to process this list of numbers and give you your frequency distribution.
• 2269[20:08:43] <greycat> GNU find, -printf %s\\n gives the file size in bytes
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• 2271[20:09:27] <greycat> whole command would be cd /wherever && find . -type f -printf %s\\n
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• 2274[20:10:30] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Seems like that's going to be necessary indeed.
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• 2278[20:12:46] <greycat> it will count hard-linked files multiple times, but you can probably live with that
• 2279[20:13:02] <greycat> any other solution you come up with would probably have that same limitation
• 2280[20:13:29] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Yeah. The target overlay doesn't support hardlinks anyhow so they'd be unlinked-on-copy anyway.
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• 2283[20:16:27] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Thanks for confirming that there isn't some widely-used thing for that.
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• 2292[20:22:44] <kreyren[m]> same issue
• 2293[20:23:19] <petn-randall> kreyren[m]: What is FSH-3.0?
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• 2295[20:23:42] <kreyren[m]> file system hierarchy standard 3.0
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• 2298[20:24:29] <petn-randall> Eh? How is that a distro?
• 2299[20:25:20] <kreyren[m]> replaced-url
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• 2301[20:26:08] <kreyren[m]> petn-randall: most of linux distros are using it I believe this being an issue with missing package or kernel driver (currently using Debian kernel)
• 2302[20:26:28] <petn-randall> I know what FHS is, I just don't understand how you'd respond with that when asking about what distro you're running.
• 2303[20:26:41] <kreyren[m]> eh?
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• 2306[20:27:41] <kreyren[m]> I though it's relevant assuming Debian built from custom stage bar
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• 2308[20:28:00] <petn-randall> You claimed you're running a custom system built from "FSH-3.0 + coreutils + binutils + toolchain and apt with debian testing sources".
• 2309[20:28:12] <kreyren[m]> yes
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• 2313[20:28:35] <greycat> My permanent ignore on *[m] is paying off already.
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• 2317[20:29:08] <petn-randall> The confusing part being that the Debian packages are compliant (or not), so I don't understand what you've done that makes it "FSH-3.0".
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• 2319[20:29:51] <greycat> "I'm trying to install Debian packages in my non-Debian system" is not an issue that #debian can or should even attempt to support.
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• 2322[20:31:57] <kreyren[m]> petn-randall: meaning that the file hierarchy is made by reference on FSH3.0 I.e its not ostree etc..
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• 2324[20:32:12] <petn-randall> Ok, I'm just going to assume it's not Debian then.
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• 2333[20:34:43] <kreyren[m]> there is virtually no difference from Debian built from livecd.. i just build it this way to avoid using livecd
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• 2340[20:38:22] <petn-randall> Eh? This is making less and less sense by the minute.
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• 2342[20:39:25] <kreyren[m]> petn-randall: What would you recommend if this was Debian installed from livecd
• 2343[20:39:54] <petn-randall> kreyren[m]: But it's not, so I won't.
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• 2349[20:42:40] <kreyren[m]> ok what do you recommend for this system then
• 2350[20:42:57] <petn-randall> I'd recommend getting support in ##linux.
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• 2354[20:46:22] <bouba> kreyren[m], what is your question?
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• 2356[20:47:27] <bouba> i just arrived.
• 2357[20:47:44] <kreyren[m]> bouba: network card EDIMAX EN-9260TX-E not working on debian but works on systemrescuecd
• 2358[20:48:00] <kreyren[m]> this is Debian without non-free sources excluding steam
• 2359[20:48:32] <petn-randall> kreyren[m]: You claimed it was something custom built, not Debian.
• 2360[20:49:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1527
• 2361[20:49:09] <kreyren[m]> Debian built from source
• 2362[20:49:21] <petn-randall> How did you build it from source?
• 2363[20:49:43] <bouba> in the terminal what is the ID of this card like xxxx:xxxx ? (lsusb)
• 2364[20:49:55] <kreyren[m]> fsh3.0 + core/binutils and toolchain for apt to run Debian sources
• 2365[20:50:21] <kreyren[m]> bouba: it's 07:00.0
• 2366[20:50:25] <kreyren[m]> in lspci
• 2367[20:50:53] <bouba> yes your right.
• 2368[20:51:04] <bouba> i see the jpg.
• 2369[20:51:08] <kreyren[m]> lsusb is not show (this is PCI card)
• 2370[20:51:26] <CombatVet> CheckInstall is not officially supported anymore?
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• 2374[20:52:13] <bouba> im wainting for the ID.
• 2375[20:52:23] <bouba> -n
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• 2378[20:53:22] <petn-randall> kreyren[m]: Please respect that we only support Debian in this channel. Any derivative distros and custom built solutions (which yours is) are not supported in here. Your best chance is to get help in ##linux for this.
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• 2381[20:53:47] <kreyren[m]> I'm in Linux already
• 2382[20:53:48] <petn-randall> kreyren[m]: Your other option is to just install plain Debian in one of the various ways listed in the release notes.
• 2383[20:53:58] <kreyren[m]> meh
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• 2385[20:54:42] <greycat> Or even some other operating system that isn't Debian, but also isn't something custom built out of chewing gum and dental floss.
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• 2390[20:57:47] <bouba> kreyren[m], replaced-url
• 2391[20:58:19] <kreyren[m]> bouba: that seems to be for Linux 2.6?
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• 2393[20:58:46] <petn-randall> Still offtopic here ...
• 2394[20:58:54] * kreyren[m] is in Linux
• 2395[20:59:13] <petn-randall> kreyren[m]: Then keep the discussion in ##linux please, last warning.
• 2396[21:00:04] <bouba> Finally it is doable to install it I think
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• 2402[21:03:45] <sponix> dpkg: contains arp
• 2403[21:03:46] <dpkg> sponix: have you tried replaced-url
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• 2406[21:04:03] <sponix> ,file arp
• 2407[21:04:11] <judd> Search for arp in buster/amd64: [truncated] net-tools: sbin/rarp; atm-tools: sbin/atmarp; swarp: usr/bin/SWarp; suckless-tools: usr/bin/swarp; dans-gdal-scripts: usr/bin/gdal_landsat_pansharp; qmidiarp: usr/bin/qmidiarp; mono-csharp-shell: usr/bin/csharp; yahtzeesharp: usr/games/yahtzeesharp; libghc-wai-app-static-dev: usr/bin/warp; gnuastro: usr/bin/astwarp; gdal-bin:
• 2408[21:04:12] <judd> usr/bin/gdalwarp; plastimatch: usr/bin/landmark_warp; openscenegraph: usr/bin/osgspacewarp; mono-tools-gui: usr/bin/gsharp; fsl-5.0-core: usr/bin/fsl5.0-applywarp, usr/bin/fsl5.0-convertwarp, usr/bin/fsl5.0-invwarp, usr/bin/fsl5.0-new_invwarp, usr/lib/fsl/5.0/applywarp, usr/lib/fsl/5.0/convertwarp, usr/lib/fsl/5.0/invwarp, usr/lib/fsl/5.0/new_invwarp; mjpegtools: usr/bin/y4munsharp; (1 more message)
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• 2410[21:04:21] <greycat> You're looking for "net-tools'.
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• 2412[21:04:46] <sponix> thanks
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• 2418[21:06:11] <greycat> dpkg, arp is also in package net-tools (no longer installed by default since Debian 9). "ip neigh" is the iproute2 equivalent.
• 2419[21:06:12] <dpkg> greycat: okay
• 2420[21:06:16] <kreyren[m]> invoking `ip link set dev enp7s0 up && dhclient enp7s0` solved the issue
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• 2422[21:06:28] <kreyren[m]> bouba: thanks for trying to help appreciated
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• 2424[21:06:46] <sponix> well, arp manpage didn't give me an example of what I need. I'll try Google ;)
• 2425[21:06:47] <bouba> see u.
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• 2465[21:36:10] <tw> Is there a generic way of getting the unlock time of a screensaver? Is there a method that works for both xscreensaver and i3lock?
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• 2468[21:38:02] <dob1> I have a bash completion script, I put it on ~/bash-completion.d but it dosesn't work. If I do source script the script works
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• 2471[21:38:48] <greycat> A directory named ~/bash-completion.d does not sound like it would be read automatically. It doesn't even begin with a dot.
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• 2474[21:39:08] <Aebian> does anyone can recommend a DE? I want something modern
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• 2478[21:40:28] <diogenes_> Aebian, cinnamon, deepin, plasma, budgie.
• 2479[21:40:33] <dae92> hi. when i plug in a amazon fire tablet (android-based ebook reader), debian can't see it (lsusb doesn't show it) but it works in ubuntu. mtp-detect and calibre also don't detect it. i installed debian from a netinst image and installed a minimal version of the DE, so could i be missing some required software besides libmtp9, which I have?
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• 2481[21:40:42] <tw> aebian: try kde plasma
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• 2483[21:41:37] <Aebian> yeah, was about to decided between kde plasma or gnome
• 2484[21:41:49] <Aebian> thanks guys
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• 2488[21:43:04] <petn-randall> dae92: If you don't even see it via lsusb, then there's a more fundamental issue. That usually means that the USB host controller (the hardware) doesn't see it, either.
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• 2491[21:43:38] <petn-randall> dae92: If you run `tail -f /var/log/kern.log` in a root shell and plug in the device, do you see anything?
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• 2493[21:45:31] <dob1> greycat, I put it in /etc/bash_completition.d and it works, I would prefer to put it in my home. I don't find any doc for this
• 2494[21:46:09] <karlpinc> dae92: I'd look at dmesg output also.
• 2495[21:46:21] <dae92> petn-randall: that doesn't see it either, so could be bad usb cable maybe
• 2496[21:46:26] <dae92> thanks
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• 2499[21:47:01] <greycat> there's allegedly a #bash-completion channel on OFTC
• 2500[21:47:19] <karlpinc> dae92: One big difference between debian and ubuntu is their attitude towards non-free. Perhaps you're missing some non-free firmware. Grep the kernel log for "firmware" after boot.
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• 2502[21:47:39] <dae92> karlpinc: ok thanks
• 2503[21:47:56] <karlpinc> dae92: Also, depending, maybe there's a newer kernel in backports that would help, depending on how new your hardware is.
• 2504[21:47:56] <dae92> i did use another cable on the ubuntu computer so when i have a chance i will test it on another usb cable also
• 2505[21:48:21] <dae92> it's a pretty old device so it's probably not the kernel
• 2506[21:48:53] <Terrell> test
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• 2508[21:49:39] <karlpinc> dae92: I don't know what you want to happen, but the "adb" package lets you poke android devices directly.
• 2509[21:51:06] <tw> lsusb or kernel messages will report that it doesn't know what the usb device is, but it will enumerate it and give you the usb descriptors.
• 2510[21:51:22] <tw> so it won't be a driver issue unless it's a host controller problem.
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• 2514[21:51:58] <dae92> speaking of logs/messages, is it normal for my dmesg to be spammed with UFW (firewall) reports?
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• 2516[21:51:59] <petn-randall> karlpinc: kernel ring buffer ("dmesg") will go to kern.log by default. Also adb can't do anything if the usb device isn't visible.
• 2517[21:52:23] <petn-randall> dae92: I guess that depends on how you configure it.
• 2518[21:52:42] <petn-randall> egress filtering doesn't make much sense on a desktop machine.
• 2519[21:52:51] <dae92> i configured it with the defaults. just "ufw enable" which i think denies all incoming and allows all outgoing, or the other way around lol
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• 2525[21:57:10] <jhutchins_wk> dae92: I would expect lsusb to report an unknown device if it were connected but not supported.
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• 2528[21:58:45] <dae92> jhutchins_wk: so it probably is a bad data cable then. i will test as soon as i can find another. thanks
• 2529[21:59:14] <jhutchins_wk> dae92: Good luck!
• 2530[21:59:21] <tw> It looks like because xscreensaver and i3lock et.al. are user-mode processes they don't get audited unless the password is bad.
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• 2532[21:59:36] <tw> I'm guessing that's some sort of pam configuration thing I have to fix.
• 2533[21:59:40] <jhutchins_wk> I've kind of saturated my environment with cables so I can usually find one if I need one.
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• 2535[22:00:13] <tw> jhutchins_wk: acceptable strategy as long as you throw away the bad ones religiously.
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• 2538[22:00:42] <jhutchins_wk> tw: Yep.
• 2539[22:01:08] <jhutchins_wk> tw: You're looking for the time when an already-logged-in user wakes the system?
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• 2542[22:02:14] <tw> jhutchins_wk: basically yes.
• 2543[22:02:40] <tw> I can get the session begins and ends info already. lock and unlock not so much.
• 2544[22:02:47] <greycat> wouldn't that simply be the moment the screen locker *terminates*?
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• 2546[22:03:17] <greycat> just wrap the screen locker in a script that runs the screen locker and then logs the current time in a file
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• 2548[22:04:30] <jhutchins_wk> tw: You could also have it log out on lock, that way you get a login (from a slightly annoyed user).
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• 2551[22:04:54] <greycat> sounds stupid
• 2552[22:05:01] <tw> Oh man, for people used to fast user switching, I would be burned alive.
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• 2555[22:05:31] <greycat> wooledg:~$ i3lock; printf 'lock terminated at %(%H:%M:%S)T\n'
• 2556[22:05:31] <greycat> lock terminated at 16:05:24
• 2557[22:05:54] <dae92> petn-randall, jhutchins_wk, karlpinc, i found another cable and confirmed that was that problem. i only thought it was a debian issue because yesterday when i was at an ubuntu machine with a different cable it worked, but that was just because of the cable not the OS. thanks
• 2558[22:06:29] <tw> greycat: if that's what I have to do, that's what I'll do. I was hoping for some mechanism that isn't user writeable.
• 2559[22:06:34] <diogenes_> is this zero-day addressed in Debian's ff 68.4 esr CVE-2019-17026?
• 2560[22:06:57] <greycat> ,cve CVE-2019-17026
• 2561[22:07:07] <tw> Or I guess more accurately, user editable.
• 2562[22:07:11] <greycat> or am I getting the trigger wrong...
• 2563[22:07:28] <diogenes_> !CVE-2019-17026
• 2564[22:07:31] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2565[22:07:46] <diogenes_> thanks
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• 2567[22:08:30] <tw> it's in the changelog for ff-esr 68.4.1esr-1~deb10u1.
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• 2616[22:40:19] <Aebian> anyone can guide me how to identify the correct wifi drivers for my laptop? I installed firmware-iwlwifi and did a lspci however. Intel CNVi
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• 2618[22:41:10] <greycat> generally you start by running "dmesg | grep -i firmware" and "lspci -nn", not necessarily in that order
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• 2620[22:41:25] <greycat> if it's a USB adapter, you substitute the latter with lsusb
• 2621[22:41:41] <Aebian> nope, built-in, I'll check, thanks
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• 2623[22:42:20] <Aebian> dmesg did it
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• 2632[22:47:38] <misterred> hi
• 2633[22:47:52] <misterred> anyone here guys
• 2634[22:48:09] <petn-randall> no, just bots.
• 2635[22:48:20] <misterred> nice bot
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• 2637[22:48:46] <misterred> can i ask you something, bot?
• 2638[22:49:26] <jhutchins_wk> 1500 bots.
• 2639[22:49:28] <jhutchins_wk> !ask
• 2640[22:49:29] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
• 2641[22:49:52] <jhutchins_wk> Whoever's the most bored will answer.
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• 2644[22:50:04] <petn-randall> dpkg: are you a bot?
• 2645[22:50:05] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
• 2646[22:51:25] <misterred> very nice of you :))
• 2647[22:51:52] <misterred> so my question is hard.
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• 2650[22:52:40] <misterred> i have lightdm, i3wm also, i3 path don't have /snap/bin dir. So i want to know in which file i need to export path in order to i3 can load that path
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• 2652[22:53:06] <misterred> .maybe solution is what runs i3
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• 2656[22:54:05] <misterred> anyone interested?
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• 2659[22:54:55] <jhutchins_wk> misterred: I don't think we're familiar with the subtleties of snap.
• 2660[22:54:58] <jhutchins_wk> ,v snap
• 2661[22:54:59] <judd> Package: snap on amd64 -- jessie: 2013-11-29-1; stretch: 2013-11-29-6; bullseye: 2013-11-29-9; buster: 2013-11-29-9; sid: 2013-11-29-9
• 2662[22:55:02] <misterred> btw: i use debian 10
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• 2664[22:55:21] <jhutchins_wk> ,info snap
• 2665[22:55:22] <judd> Package snap (science, optional) in buster/amd64: location of genes from DNA sequence with hidden markov model. Version: 2013-11-29-9; Size: 364.7k; Installed: 2646k; Homepage: replaced-url
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• 2667[22:55:55] <jhutchins_wk> misterred: So the package didn't install any way to launch it?
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• 2669[22:56:47] <jhutchins_wk> You could create an icon/shorcut or a .desktop file that has the full path to the program.
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• 2671[22:56:55] <misterred> its about telegram, wait to see
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• 2674[22:57:37] <misterred> yes i can't run it by terminal
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• 2677[22:58:28] <greycat> how CAN you run it?
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• 2679[22:58:37] <jhutchins_wk> misterred: You installed it from debian?
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• 2683[22:59:13] <misterred> i can do this with .desktop files, but see what: on i3 dmenu is default, dmenu get me option to run snap installed programs, but it son't run, only is presented in the list for running.
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• 2685[22:59:31] <greycat> If the .desktop works, read it and see what it does, and then mimic that.
• 2686[22:59:32] <misterred> i installed it: snap install telegram-desktop
• 2687[23:00:06] <misterred> greycat: in order to?
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• 2689[23:00:22] <greycat> In order to write a shell script or whatever that mimics the actions of the *.desktop file.
• 2690[23:00:38] <misterred> dmenu uses i3 path, so dmenu try to run telegram but it isn't in i3 path. so i need to update somehow i3 path
• 2691[23:01:20] <misterred> greycat: thanks, but my problem is how to run tg(telegram) with dmenu.
• 2692[23:01:42] <greycat> sounds like you're going to be waiting for a while, for someone to show up who has the first clue about what "dmenu" is...
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• 2694[23:02:07] <greycat> if it's an i3 thing, you might try asking in #i3
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• 2698[23:04:21] <greycat> ,file bin/dmenu
• 2699[23:04:26] <judd> Search for bin/dmenu in buster/amd64: suckless-tools: usr/bin/dmenu
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• 2701[23:05:38] <misterred> i am asking here becouse one more sprecific question(way to solve it, potentionaly)
• 2702[23:05:56] <greycat> so... not an i3 thing, then...
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• 2704[23:07:04] <misterred> i wone: file ...dmenu. wan to see output?
• 2705[23:07:12] <misterred> i done*
• 2706[23:07:15] <al14s4> Hey so I'm trying to compile a program called Fuzion (github.com/lwss/fuzion) and I get this error when trying to install the dependencies: replaced-url
• 2707[23:07:22] <greycat> if I"m understanding replaced-url
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• 2709[23:08:46] <greycat> so, once you know how the *.desktop file works, you could incorporate that knowledge in whatever script you're writing that uses dmenu
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• 2712[23:09:40] <misterred> i have dmenu_... separate program that runs .desktop files, but i need dmenu itself to run my snap programs
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• 2733[23:24:13] <petn-randall> snap also work in Debian, you can start e.g. pycharm with `snap run pycharm-community`.
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• 2740[23:29:28] <tsarompy> hay hay hay
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• 2742[23:29:39] <tsarompy> anybody else getting errors with apt/apt-get about libresvg.so.0 being truncated?
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• 2746[23:29:51] <tsarompy> i purged it then reinstalled it, same problem
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• 2748[23:29:59] <tsarompy> it doesnt seem to be crucial, just annoying
• 2749[23:30:09] <tsarompy> (im on sid so its prob my fault)
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• 2755[23:32:16] <petn-randall> !debian-next
• 2756[23:32:16] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 2757[23:32:39] <petn-randall> tsarompy: I'd ask in there ^^^. That's where all the sid enthusiasts hang out.
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• 2759[23:34:22] <tsarompy> ooh okay
• 2760[23:34:27] <tsarompy> thanks, didnt know bout that channel <3
• 2761[23:34:48] <tsarompy> LOL i dig the sarcasm in that message haha
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• 2764[23:36:24] <petn-randall> tsarompy: You were about to ask why it's invite only? ;D
• 2765[23:36:59] <tsarompy> yea
• 2766[23:37:01] <tsarompy> then i saw it
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• 2785[23:59:35] <al14s4> I'm trying to compile a program called Fuzion (github.com/lwss/fuzion) and I get this error when trying to install the dependencies: replaced-url
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