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44 [00:16:59] <noriend> hi
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69 [00:31:34] <strangeqargo> google foo fails me, any tips on
setting up pbuilder with distcc?
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85 [00:46:40] <tiwake> I launched a process to be running in the
background <some command>& how do I exit SSH without
killing this process?
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87 [00:47:35] <tiwake> would that be disown?
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91 [00:48:52] <tiwake> cause that does not seem to work
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105 [00:54:41] <ni291187> selam
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221 [02:19:23] <tw> tiwake: redirect the input and output streams
before disown.
222 [02:19:47] <tiwake> tw: how?
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225 [02:20:15] <tw> either screen or dtach are good options.
Otherwise </dev/null >/dev/null 2>/devnull
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227 [02:20:27] <tw> minus the typo
228 [02:21:05] <metastable> Could nohup.
229 [02:21:10] <metastable> nohup and background.
230 [02:21:31] <metastable> nohup ./thing.sh &
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233 [02:21:50] <tw> that'd work too, I can't remember
if nohup automatically creates log files for you.
234 [02:22:17] <metastable> Directs output to nohup.out by
default.
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251 [02:37:36] <ryouma> when i boot, i get "a start process
...". i have to sit there for 1.5m until it times out. this is
for some partition i don't care about, and its name seemed a
little funny. btw i have nofail for everything in my fstab. where do
i go to find that exact error message? it is not in /var/log.
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268 [02:51:01] <zzz_> im migrating from ubuntu server to debian,
do you guys have any advice or heads up i could use?
269 [02:51:32] <tw> ryouma: journalctl -xe will probably help
270 [02:51:35] <metastable> Don't use Ubuntu PPAs. Use
stable. Don't mix Debian releases.
271 [02:51:39] <metastable> !frankendebian
272 [02:51:39] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can
convince ##linux to help.
273 [02:51:45] <metastable> Basically, that. ^
274 [02:52:43] <zzz_> thanks, thats good advice
275 [02:52:51] <ryouma> tw: thanks. not there though.
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277 [02:54:18] <tw> any guess as to the mount point? It should be
in /etc/fstab
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282 [02:56:17] <ryouma> tw: if it's in fstab, then it is
definitely this: "/dev/mapper/bi /media/bi ext4 defaults,nofail
0 2". but i thought (not sure) that it said toshiba-bi, which
is a dev mapper name i had long ago. but shouldn't the nofail
make it not do that?
283 [02:57:20] <metastable> It's still going to try to mount
it. It just won't kill the boot process if it can't.
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287 [02:58:10] <metastable> I believe you want
'nobootwait' as well.
288 [02:58:19] <ryouma> tw: i.e. i thought the purpose of nofail
was to make that whole thing time out immediately. maybe that's
wrong
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292 [02:58:28] <ryouma> ooh i will check it out
293 [02:58:34] <metastable> Assuming that that value is still
valid.
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295 [02:59:08] <ryouma> i do not find nobootwait in man fstab or
man mount
296 [02:59:11] <ryouma> i am on jessie
297 [02:59:11] <tw> there's also noauto if you want it to
just ignore.
298 [02:59:30] <ryouma> (also why is nofail not default?)
299 [03:00:05] <ryouma> i want it to try to mount, and then just
skip it if it cannot
300 [03:00:09] <metastable> Because it shouldn't be the
default.
301 [03:00:10] <tw> you should also check crypttab to see if your
old thing is still in there.
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304 [03:00:41] <tw> ryouma: nofail by default would try to boot
if / was unavailable or needed fsck.
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309 [03:06:40] <ryouma> checked everywhere, old thing
doesn't seem to be anywhere in /etc, for example
310 [03:06:47] <ryouma> nofail by default for non root i mean
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317 [03:09:55] <ryouma> i know of no org-reindent-region
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319 [03:10:07] <ryouma> oops mischan
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324 [03:13:02] <Devastator> I'm seeing these messages on
boot of my debian VM on hyper-v, is this harmless? [ 0.000000] efi:
requested map not found. [ 0.000000] efi: Failed to lookup EFI
memory descriptor for 0x00000000f6ee7000
325 [03:13:59] <ryouma> tw: can i change the timeout from 1.5m to
30s?
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346 [03:35:48] <rue_shop3> what program replaced the kompozer
package?
347 [03:36:06] <rue_shop3> I cant find an wysiwyg html editor
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355 [03:46:19] <rant> they've fallen out of style these
days..
356 [03:46:57] <rant> web design has gotten too complex and they
just write unmaintainable spaghetti code anyhow
357 [03:47:34] <coruja> nowadays html is rather just a container
for scripts and media
358 [03:47:39] <rant> something like bluefish offers some of the
convenience of a WYSIWYG editor like wizards for creating tables and
such.. but itsn't like a classic WYSIWYG editor
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434 [05:04:03] <vahe> hi ,
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435 [05:04:27] <vahe> they turned out to have a conflict
436 [05:04:43] <vahe> conflict openoffice libreoffice
437 [05:05:29] <vahe>
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438 [05:06:46] <somiaj> vahe: where/how did you install open
office?
439 [05:07:16] <somiaj> it looks like you are trying to mix
packages for different debian/releases distro, which is a good way
to break things.
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441 [05:07:37] <vahe> somiaj: thanks, I downloaded from the
official website and install using dpkg
442 [05:08:25] <vahe> deb no, I installed it for Debian
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444 [05:09:14] <vahe> somiaj: I installed everything correctly,
can help remove both I then reinstall?
445 [05:09:38] <somiaj> vahe: have you tried apt -f install and
see what it suggests?
446 [05:10:07] <somiaj> vahe: I am unsure on openoffice, and the
quality of the .deb package or if they made it for debian or ubuntu,
or it is just outdated. Any reason why you want openoffice over
libreoofice?
447 [05:10:22] <somiaj> vahe: and yes, if apt -f install
doesn't fix it, you can remove all the openoffice and
libreoffice packages, then inrestall.
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450 [05:11:27] <vahe> somiaj: apt install -f doing exactly that
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453 [05:13:00] <somiaj> vahe: yea, looks like you'll have to
remove the packages, dpkg -l | grep office, should list them, then
apt remove the offending packges.
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455 [05:13:23] <coruja> apt purge openoffice*
456 [05:13:42] <somiaj> I would strongly suggest using the debian
provided libreoffice over the third party package, just due to being
better integrated with debian.
457 [05:14:01] <coruja> then decide which of both to install
(debian sources recommended) and (re)install
458 [05:14:03] <somiaj> (in this case it appears the openoffice
package didn't correctly conflict with the libreoffice packages
in debian)
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461 [05:19:00] <vahe> somiaj:
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463 [05:19:33] <vahe> coruja: apt purge openoffice* does, too,
most that and apt install -f
464 [05:20:07] <vahe> it is possible to tell does nothing
465 [05:20:39] <vahe> everything I wrote in apt terminal does the
same.
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467 [05:22:25] <vahe> if I had known about this conflict, I would
just delete then reinstall OpenOffice
468 [05:22:39] <coruja> and apt purge libreoffice* ?
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470 [05:23:18] <vahe> coruja:
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471 [05:24:13] <coruja> _libre_
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474 [05:26:56] <somiaj> vahe: remove all those libreoffice
packages taht are 'iU', the 'rc' ones just have
config files around.
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476 [05:27:54] <vahe> somiaj: sorry please , I don't
understand.
477 [05:28:28] <somiaj> in that list your posted, there were a
lot of packages, remove the libreoffice packages that have
'iU' as the two letters on their starting line. You may
have to use dpkg if apt wont' do it.
478 [05:28:44] <somiaj> but your system is in a broken state due
to these openoffice packages, so you may need to manually clean this
up
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481 [05:29:05] <vahe> if you can tell me how
482 [05:29:09] <SIX10> why must alsa torture me
483 [05:29:16] <SIX10> i reboot my computer and sound dont work
484 [05:29:36] <somiaj> SIX10: did it work before you rebooted
your computer?
485 [05:29:47] <somiaj> SIX10: are you only using alsa, or are
you using pulse on top of it.
486 [05:29:47] <SIX10> somiaj yes
487 [05:30:03] <SIX10> i have both pulse and alsa installed, idk
if im using both at the same time
488 [05:30:15] <somiaj> SIX10: sound cards do not always get
detected int eh same order, check 'cat /proc/asound/cards'
it could be that what was the default sound card 0, is now sound
card 1.
489 [05:30:52] <somiaj> SIX10: pulse runs on top of alsa, if
using pulse, get a program like pavucontrol to configure pulse to
use the correct sound card.
490 [05:31:12] <somiaj> it could also be you configured alsa but
stopping pulse, but rebooting made pulse run again.
491 [05:32:16] <SIX10> it looks as if pavucontrol has the correct
soundcard
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494 [05:32:45] <SIX10> when i go into alsamixer its default is
"- (default) and 0 is HDA Intel PCH
495 [05:33:02] <somiaj> SIX10: if using pulse, leave alsa alone,
and configure it through pavucontrol
496 [05:34:11] <SIX10> all pavucontrol says in output devices is
Port: Speakers and in the dropdown menu it also lists headphones
unplugged
497 [05:34:37] <SIX10> the slider is greyed out
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499 [05:35:45] <vahe> somiaj: I had to manually remove all
packages OpenOffice, the problem was solved)
500 [05:36:25] <somiaj> vahe: I thnk you could have manually
removed libreoffice too. Any reason you want openoffice over
libreoffice?
501 [05:36:46] <vahe> dpkg --puge openoffice
502 [05:36:47] <dpkg> vahe: I don't know, could you explain
it?
503 [05:37:01] <vahe> I prefer OpenOffice.
504 [05:37:38] <SIX10> hmm i just noticed something
505 [05:37:44] <vahe> how to install apt in OpenOffice ?
506 [05:37:52] <SIX10> the mute button on my thinkpad t420 is lit
up, i press it and nothing happens
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508 [05:38:03] <vahe> somiaj: thanks
509 [05:38:17] <somiaj> due to oracle buying sun and aquring
openoffice, libreoffice is a fork, so they are similar. But if you
choose openoffice, completely remove libreoffice, and then get
support from orcale about it
510 [05:38:28] <vahe> thanks
511 [05:38:30] <somiaj> their packages just won't be as well
tested to integrate into a debian system.
512 [05:38:46] <aaap> libreoffice is more updated than
openoffice, if i am not wrong
513 [05:38:52] <somiaj> in general be careful with third party
software.
514 [05:39:11] <vahe> :)
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516 [05:39:30] <somiaj> aaap: They have diverged, I think oracle
is doing work on openoffice, but I think libre has more community
support and has more newer features
517 [05:39:41] <somiaj> though openoffice may have some closed
oracle features, you'll have to ask oracle what they ahve done.
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519 [05:40:39] <aaap> somiaj, yea the community support &
feedback make libreoffice more popular, imho
520 [05:40:54] <somiaj> same issue with mariadb vs mysql, oracle
owns the copyright, and the community would rather work on something
independent.
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522 [05:41:06] <somiaj> aaap: that and the community just
doesn't like oracle.
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526 [05:43:41] <SIX10> i fixed it
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529 [05:44:04] <SIX10> whenever i press the volume slider on
polybar it mutes it for somereason
530 [05:44:50] <somiaj> SIX10: glad you figured it out.
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548 [05:59:02] <Devastator> I'm seeing these messages on
boot of my debian VM on hyper-v, is this harmless? [ 0.000000] efi:
requested map not found. [ 0.000000] efi: Failed to lookup EFI
memory descriptor for 0x00000000f6ee7000
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578 [06:29:03] <somiaj> Devastator: sounds like some issue with
the vm not provided some EFI access to the virtual firmware....I
woulds ay unless you experience something strange with the vm, it is
okay.
579 [06:29:16] <rant> Devastator: I wouldnt be concerned about
it. Linux is verbose.. most systems have tons of such messages about
things being different than the developer expected
580 [06:29:33] <somiaj> Devastator: efi just allows more
communication between an os and the firmware, and it appears the efi
impemtation is missing something the kernel was looking for.
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583 [06:32:33] <rant> Devastator: its one of those kinds of
things that only matters either if as somiaj had said, if you have
an issue, or if you plan to contact the developer and help them out
with specs of the system to get the code fixed for that particular
hardware
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640 [07:29:22] <linuxthefish> hi, why can't i change the
time on debian using "sudo date +%T -s
"08:27:11""?
641 [07:29:47] <linuxthefish> hi, why can't i change the
time on debian using "sudo date +%T -s
"08:27:11""? after running this command, then running
date, the time stays the same! I'm just doing this to test an
app, and I need to set the time to a different one
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644 [07:32:40] <somiaj> linuxthefish: first you shoudln't
change the time, to much depends on it and you can make thigns not
work.
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646 [07:33:02] <themill> Most likely you are running a daemon
like ntp that is making sure the time is right (because it should
be)
647 [07:33:02] <somiaj> second systemd now has a built in ntp
service that keeps your systems time up todate, and though you
change it, the service changes it back
648 [07:33:21] <somiaj> themill: seems in stretch systemd has a
built in one, so even if ntpd is not running, systemd has something
running
649 [07:33:33] <themill> yeah
650 [07:33:44] * themill still has ntp running on everything
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652 [07:34:00] <somiaj> though I forget the name of the service,
someone here was able to change their time after disabling the
service.
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654 [07:35:01] <themill> timesyncd
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656 [07:35:30] <somiaj> I see it as systemd-timesyncd.service
here, hmm seem they are alises to eachotehr
657 [07:36:06] <somiaj> linuxthefish: there is faketime, if you
want to fake the time to a certain app.
658 [07:36:50] <linuxthefish> ah thanks somiaj!
659 [07:37:01] <linuxthefish> it's just stupid openvpn, it
thinks the certificate isn't valid yet
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662 [07:37:32] <somiaj> but changing the time could affect other
ssl certs on your system, hence why you may not want to actually
chagne the systems time.
663 [07:38:24] <themill> openvpn's idea of a cert being
invalid is unlikely to be incorrect tbh
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665 [07:39:14] <velix> Do I need to restart PostgreSQL after
updating?
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669 [07:40:16] <somiaj> velix: sometimes the postinst script
would do this, there is also needrestart which might tell you if
things need restarted.
670 [07:40:44] <velix> somiaj: I see. I just wonder, how I can
update an application while running :)
671 [07:40:53] <velix> somiaj: In Windows, this will make much
trouble.
672 [07:41:32] <somiaj> velix: works just fine in debian. The
program is usually running in memory so updating the install is
fine. It depends on the service if it is restarted after an upgrade
though.
673 [07:41:37] <velix> ah, I see.
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675 [07:41:43] <velix> Thanks.
676 [07:42:07] <somiaj> but there are apps like needsrestart that
will check if things are running off of outadated binaries or
libaries.
677 [07:42:09] <themill> An existing connection to the db server
would still be broken and the client may not gracefully handle that.
678 [07:42:10] <somiaj> (in memeory)
679 [07:42:27] <themill> yeah, needrestart is pretty good
680 [07:43:12] <linuxthefish> what package provides ntpupdate?
681 [07:43:24] <linuxthefish> i have ntp installed and still get
command not found
682 [07:43:27] <somiaj> linuxthefish: dpkg -S foo, will check
what package on your system provides foo
683 [07:43:39] <themill> linuxthefish: if you mean ntpdate, you
don't want it
684 [07:43:44] <linuxthefish> dpkg-query: no path found matching
pattern *ntpupdate*
685 [07:43:53] <linuxthefish> themill, I want to force time
update using a different server one time
686 [07:43:58] <Tom-_> do you mean ntpdate?
687 [07:44:09] <linuxthefish> yeah Tom-_
688 [07:44:29] <Tom-_> it's in the ntpdate package
689 [07:44:38] <themill> and you seriously don't want it
690 [07:44:44] <linuxthefish> ah thanks Tom-_
691 [07:44:47] <linuxthefish> themill, why not?
692 [07:44:48] <somiaj> linuxthefish: still if you have something
like timesyncd running, yoru system will just reset the time. There
are probably better ways to achive your goal.
693 [07:45:26] <themill> linuxthefish: ntpdate is just a broken
way of setting the time. If you want to set the correct time, use
ntp. If you need a broken time, fix the thing that is broken
694 [07:46:16] <themill> ntpdate really should have been removed
from Debian about 4 releases ago
695 [07:46:23] <linuxthefish> hmm timesyncd isn't installed,
what is the best way to set the time automatically?
696 [07:47:19] <somiaj> linuxthefish: it is part of systemd, and
I think is already setting the time on your system. Or as themill
suggests, install ntp
697 [07:47:31] <linuxthefish> I used to have an hourly crontab
for "ntpdate -s time.google.com" haha
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699 [07:47:51] <linuxthefish> ah yeah i'm using systemd
somiaj but there isn't a /etc/init.d/timesyncd
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701 [07:48:22] <somiaj> linuxthefish: why would you expect there
to be one, this is a systemd unit file, not a sysv init.d script.
702 [07:48:34] <somiaj> linuxthefish: systemctl status
systemd-timesyncd
703 [07:49:03] <linuxthefish> ah thanks, yeah it's running,
will that automatically update the time somehow?
704 [07:49:19] <themill> if you actually needed ntpdate running
from cron then lots of things on your system would hate you on a
regular basis. A real time syncing daemon like timesyncd or ntpd
would be much better to have
705 [07:49:22] <somiaj> that is what was kept changning your time
back when you were trying to chagne it with date.
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707 [07:49:43] <linuxthefish> ah thanks, I like having the
correct time
708 [07:49:55] <linuxthefish> themill, I don't have it
anymore don't worry
709 [07:50:19] <themill> :)
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836 [09:37:46] <safetyPL> hello all
837 [09:38:28] <safetyPL> Why I can't install
"wine" on my laptop ?
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839 [09:39:18] <babilen> What happens if you try?
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843 [09:43:53] <hypn0> short circuit? :-)
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857 [10:01:06] <nikio_> why is vim not using backspace as delete
properly
858 [10:01:20] <nikio_> thats ridiculous, im on debian 9 stretch
and i even tried to set the right commands in .vimrc
859 [10:01:24] <nikio_> but still doesnt work
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861 [10:02:29] <babilen> Please define "doesn't
work" in more detail
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865 [10:05:21] <nikio_> when i press backspace it doesnt delete a
character
866 [10:05:34] <babilen> What happens instead?
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868 [10:07:29] <nikio_> it goes backwards
869 [10:07:35] <nikio_> like with the left arrow
870 [10:07:51] <babilen> Could you run ":set
backspace=indent,eol,start" please?
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872 [10:08:06] <hypn0> .vimrc <what did you change in
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878 [10:09:59] <webmind> bash: what: No such file or directory
879 [10:10:08] <webmind> ;)
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881 [10:12:00] <nikio_> babilen, i pasted that after pressing
escape and :
882 [10:12:01] <babilen> nikio_: Does that sort it?
883 [10:12:02] <nikio_> its there
884 [10:12:09] <nikio_> but when i press enter the cursor goes
into the file
885 [10:12:36] <babilen> does it behave differently now?
886 [10:13:05] <nikio_> not sure, its just so messed up from any
previous times i worked with vi
887 [10:13:12] <nikio_> just seems broken
888 [10:13:28] <nikio_> also when i press up down left right the
letters a s d w appear
889 [10:13:33] <nikio_> bo
890 [10:13:41] <nikio_> no the letter C D A B A
891 [10:13:46] <babilen> It's very straightforward. You
start vim, you enter ":set backspace=indent,eol,start" in
normal mode and observe the resulting behaviour
892 [10:13:48] <nikio_> depedning on which arrow i press
893 [10:13:59] <nikio_> i told you what happend
894 [10:14:27] <nikio_> it didnt fix it
895 [10:14:33] <nikio_> backspace is still left arrow
896 [10:14:37] <babilen> Yes, that is the expected behaviour. You
did say *nothing* about the resulting deletion behaviour
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898 [10:14:45] <nikio_> and the arrows cause capital letters to
be inserted on a new line
899 [10:15:02] <babilen> So, in normal mode ":set
backspace" gives you what now?
900 [10:15:05] <nikio_> im using a debian stretch vagrant box
901 [10:15:14] <nikio_> sshing into it with l\putty
902 [10:15:19] <nikio_> *putty
903 [10:15:28] <babilen> Well .. that's bound to mess things
up
904 [10:15:36] <babilen> Try a normal "vagrant ssh"
905 [10:15:43] <nikio_> never had this probably before with ANY
vm
906 [10:15:54] <nikio_> vagrant just sets up a vm
907 [10:15:58] <nikio_> its still using virtualbox
908 [10:16:02] <nikio_> it doesnt matter its vagrant
909 [10:16:08] <babilen> Which Box is it?
replaced-url
910 [10:16:28] <babilen> I am aware of what vagrant is and does
911 [10:16:45] <babilen> It would also be nice if you could
answer: "So, in normal mode ":set backspace" gives
you what now?"
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913 [10:16:57] <nikio_> yup
914 [10:16:58] <nikio_>
replaced-url
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918 [10:17:48] <nikio_> babilen, same as after typing the
previous command
919 [10:17:49] <nikio_> same behaviour
920 [10:18:39] <nikio_> i assume by normal mode you mean command
modE?
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929 [10:24:33] <webmind> hmm, does apt no longer continue broken
downloaded?
930 [10:24:46] <webmind> it was at 95% broke, and next time it
just started at 0%
931 [10:25:06] <babilen> nikio_: I am referring to vim's
normal mode:
replaced-url
932 [10:25:25] <nikio_> babilen, they dont have a screenshot of
how it looks unfortunately
933 [10:25:27] <webmind> yeah, just gave it a sigterm, again
starts at 0
934 [10:25:36] <nikio_> it would be much faster to use an image
so i can see
935 [10:25:55] <nikio_> im pretty sure its the command mode
936 [10:26:03] <nikio_> where you type at the bottom
937 [10:26:07] <nikio_> cursor stays at the bottom
938 [10:26:22] <nikio_> babilen,
replaced-url
939 [10:26:27] <nikio_> i think this the problem
940 [10:26:42] <nikio_> but vim: command not found
941 [10:26:45] <alkisg> webmind: afaik it does that for each deb,
but once it's downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives, then it
doesn't redownload it
942 [10:26:46] <nikio_> hmm
943 [10:27:03] <alkisg> so you can ctrl+c between two debs, but
not "inside" a deb
944 [10:27:11] <webmind> alkisg: I remember it continuing a deb.
945 [10:27:12] <nikio_> im using: VIM - Vi IMproved 8.0 (2016 Sep
12, compiled Sep 30 2017 18:21:38)
946 [10:27:23] <webmind> which is really nice with big files and
crappy connections
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948 [10:27:24] <babilen> nikio_: Did you install vim?
949 [10:27:25] <alkisg> I don't, at least for 5+ years now
950 [10:27:27] <nikio_> when i did vi --version | head -n 1
951 [10:27:34] <nikio_> babilen, nope
952 [10:27:37] <nikio_> but i always used vi
953 [10:27:38] <babilen> So you are running vi not vim?
954 [10:27:42] <nikio_> without a problem
955 [10:28:13] <babilen> Maybe install vim-nox and run vim?
956 [10:28:29] <nikio_> vi --version | head -n 1 gives the above
result
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959 [10:30:57] <nikio_> babilen, chmod 777 .vimrc
960 [10:31:00] <nikio_> did the trick
961 [10:31:30] <nikio_> no idea why they didnt make that the
default
962 [10:31:43] <nikio_> seems so uncomfortable without it
963 [10:33:03] <nikio_> thx for the help babilen : )
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966 [10:34:40] <babilen> The difference is the setting of
":nocompatible"
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970 [10:39:10] <babilen> nikio_: Is there a /home/*/.vimrc
/root/.vimrc in the vagrant box?
971 [10:39:31] * babilen can't find it
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979 [10:44:47] <nikio_> babilen, yup it works now i had to chmod
777 the .vimrc in my root folder
980 [10:45:19] <nikio_> i put: set nocp
981 [10:45:37] <nikio_> and: set backspace=indent,eol,start
982 [10:45:44] <nikio_> and chmod 777 the file, now its normal
983 [10:45:53] <rant> make it 007 and have the pretty lady make
you a martini :P
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991 [10:50:18] <blackslide> Hi, I'm having issues after
installing steam and i386 gfx drivers
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993 [10:50:42] <blackslide> Everything works fine until I log in
as a user
994 [10:51:21] <blackslide> After login, I have no way to
interact with the system, except for long pressing the pwr button..
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996 [10:52:08] <blackslide> Keyboard, touchpad and touchscreen
are unresponsive. Can't switch tty's or anything.
997 [10:52:19] <blackslide> everything works in the login screen
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1000 [10:53:55] <blackslide> But everything else seems to work,
since it recognizes stuff inserted into the usb ports... hmm.. maybe
I'll try usb kbd/mouse
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1004 [10:57:19] <babilen> nikio_: There is no /root/.vimrc in the
vagrant box, is there?
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1006 [10:59:19] <babilen> And you shouldn't have to make
those changes as installing vim (which you want to use) by
installing, say, the vim-nox package and running "vim"
will DTRT
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1009 [10:59:41] <blackslide> okay, that didn't work
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1012 [11:00:13] <blackslide> any ideas why input works in the
login screen, but after userlogin, nada?
1013 [11:00:15] <babilen> I mostly use
replaced-url
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1015 [11:00:59] <blackslide> Everything wsa peachy before steam
installation > reboot
1016 [11:01:17] <blackslide> I used the debian installation
instructions
1017 [11:02:52] <babilen> Link?
1018 [11:03:42] <blackslide>
replaced-url
1019 [11:03:48] <blackslide> duh
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1021 [11:03:52] <blackslide>
replaced-url
1022 [11:04:05] <rant> blackslide: had you tried a SAK by chance?
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1025 [11:04:35] <blackslide> uh, a what?
1026 [11:04:43] <rant> Alt+Sysrq+K
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1028 [11:05:50] <rant> I had some weird issue a long time ago
where a DM was somehow sending all my input to a terminal other than
the one it was running on.. effectively causing the same symptoms
you describe.. the SAK kills anything using /dev/console.. and
should still work regardless in such a situation but will not work
if the system were hung or such
1029 [11:06:35] <blackslide> Well, it seems the system is
responsive but something is messing with the input..
1030 [11:06:44] <blackslide> I'll try that..
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1036 [11:09:03] <nikio_> babilen, i dont believe there was
1037 [11:09:07] <nikio_> i made it though
1038 [11:09:16] <nikio_> DTRT what is that?
1039 [11:09:21] <babilen> "do the right thing"
1040 [11:09:41] <nikio_> ah ok
1041 [11:09:45] <nikio_> well its just some commands
1042 [11:09:50] <nikio_> two commands and done
1043 [11:09:56] <nikio_> no need to install extra stuff
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1046 [11:10:15] <gunix> ,v qemu
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1048 [11:10:17] <judd> Package: qemu on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.1.2+dfsg-6a+deb7u12; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u24;
wheezy-backports: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u5a~bpo70+1; jessie:
1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6; jessie-security: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6;
jessie-backports: 1:2.8+dfsg-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:2.8+dfsg-6+deb9u3;
stretch-security: 1:2.8+dfsg-6+deb9u3; buster: 1:2.11+dfsg-1; sid:
1:2.11+dfsg-1
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1054 [11:11:41] <phantomcircuit> im trying to setup a bridge
between a wireless interface and 3 ethernet ports
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1056 [11:11:53] <babilen> nikio_: You are missing out an *a lot*
of vim modes/syntax/.../plugin functionality
1057 [11:12:02] <babilen> But sure .. if thats
1058 [11:12:07] <babilen> what you want
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1063 [11:12:15] <phantomcircuit> starting hostapd with bridge=br0
set in the config isn't actually adding the wireless interface
to the bridge though
1064 [11:12:25] <phantomcircuit> but brctl addif br0 wlp4s0 works
perfectly
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1070 [11:13:35] <_spOOn_> anyone around help me with a
slurmdbd+mariadb issue?
1071 [11:14:09] <_spOOn_> seems that during the upgrade to 16.05
of slurm, its failing the database update
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1079 [11:16:07] <blackslide> hmm.. after hitting Alt+SyRq+K,
screen shows tty1 for a moment and returns into the login screen,
but now is unresponsive like it is after login
1080 [11:16:29] <petn-randall> _spOOn_: Where is that version
from? The stretch version is 0.4.3.
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1083 [11:17:18] <blackslide> btw, this key combination seems to be
unavailable to this tablet. Had to use external kbd...
1084 [11:18:24] <nikio_> ok
1085 [11:18:25] <booyah> why the hell doesn't capslock light
up when in virtual terminal?
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1087 [11:18:34] <petn-randall> _spOOn_: Oh, nvm, was looking at
the wrong package.
1088 [11:18:34] <booyah> I've seen this since like year+ on
debians at least
1089 [11:18:36] <_spOOn_> petn-randall: stretch
1090 [11:19:11] <petn-randall> booyah: Works fine for me, must be
on your end.
1091 [11:19:32] <phantomcircuit> i think hostapd needs to be
running before the bridge is setup
1092 [11:19:33] <phantomcircuit> sad
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1094 [11:19:44] <_spOOn_> getting things like error: Couldn't
load specified plugin name for accounting_storage/mysql: Plugin
init() callback failed
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1096 [11:19:53] <_spOOn_> and from what my google fu tells me
1097 [11:20:05] <blackslide> can [usermod -a -G video,audio
username] brake something?
1098 [11:20:06] <_spOOn_> there seems to be some stuff that what
removed in later versions of mariadb
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1106 [11:23:59] <booyah> petn-randall: on all 4 computers?
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1108 [11:24:42] <booyah> I didn't seen in recent years a
debian computer that in virtual terminal would show the capslock LED
on keyboard when capslock is active
1109 [11:24:51] <booyah> numlock and scrolllock works, but not
capslock
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1112 [11:25:21] <cheapie> I would test that, but I don't
/have/ a caps lock key...
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1115 [11:26:00] <cheapie> I did switch to tty2 and try the other
two, though, and Num Lock and Scroll Lock both light up.
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1117 [11:26:22] <_spOOn_> have also tried dropping the db and
recreating as part of packagfe install, and it fails after creating
about 10 tables;
1118 [11:26:23] <booyah> anyone can test capslock?
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1125 [11:27:21] <pingfloyd> booyah: same thing here
1126 [11:27:26] <booyah> pingfloyd: as in?
1127 [11:27:30] <pingfloyd> in VC the led doesn't show which
mode it is in
1128 [11:27:33] <pingfloyd> in X it does
1129 [11:27:38] <booyah> yeah
1130 [11:28:00] <booyah> linux A.D. 2018 - still not really
supporting keyboards as existed since before this millenium
1131 [11:28:27] <pingfloyd> file a bug report
1132 [11:28:42] <booyah> pingfloyd: btw, why you did not? (just
curious)
1133 [11:28:57] <pingfloyd> cause it's not that big of deal
to me
1134 [11:28:59] <blackslide> Don't have a led in mine anyway
:D
1135 [11:29:02] <booyah> petn-randall: for you it worked? on
actually virtual terminal 1, the one showing up after ctrl-alt-f1 ?
1136 [11:29:07] <pingfloyd> even forgot about it
1137 [11:29:37] <blackslide> So what groups should a user be in,
if he needs to use X?
1138 [11:29:45] <booyah> blackslide: video?
1139 [11:30:04] <petn-randall> booyah: File a bug report.
1140 [11:30:14] <pingfloyd> blackslide: usually shouldn't
matter for X itself
1141 [11:30:51] <blackslide> I'm just having a weird issue of
having no input method after login
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1143 [11:31:14] <booyah> petn-randall: yeah to file a bug report
Im asking on what setup it worked. like debian stable amd64? usb
keyboard?
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1147 [11:32:13] <blackslide> my user is in: cdrom, floppy, audio,
dip, video, plugdev, netdev, bluetooth, scanner
1148 [11:32:42] <booyah> blackslide: you must re-login to actually
be in the group. if you are, then afair it should work
1149 [11:32:59] <blackslide> yes, I've done a dozen reboots
1150 [11:33:15] <blackslide> problem is, when I login to X, I have
no input
1151 [11:33:44] <booyah> blackslide: add to group
"input" too?
1152 [11:33:57] <blackslide> okay, I'll do that :D
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1155 [11:36:56] <blackslide> well, that didn't wok
1156 [11:36:58] <blackslide> work
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1158 [11:37:36] <blackslide> It's weird that Alt+SysRq+K
makes the login screen behave just like it does after login..
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1160 [11:38:34] <booyah> blackslide: yey
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1176 [11:47:10] <_spOOn_> I've just tested with
mysql-community 5.6, and slurmdbd works successfully
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1180 [11:50:48] <l3dx> isn't broadcom-sta-dkms available for
buster?
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1193 [11:56:43] <rant> blackslide: did you check your logs? and
what exactly did you mean about i386 gfx drivers? you installed i386
drivers on an otherwise amd64 machine? which drivers specifically /
from where?
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1196 [11:57:27] <blackslide> what logs do I need to check? I
don't see anything odd in dmesg...
1197 [11:57:52] <blackslide> the debian/steam wiki states that you
need i386 drivers for steam to work
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1199 [11:58:17] <blackslide> So, apt install
xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386
1200 [11:58:37] <blackslide> And yes, it's a 64bit system
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1204 [11:59:09] <blackslide> well, there's a ton of oddness
in dmesg, since broken fw etc, but nothing new
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1208 [12:00:19] <blackslide> overall,
replaced-url
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1211 [12:00:30] <blackslide> It only states "Don't do
this on Wheezy"...
1212 [12:00:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
1213 [12:00:51] <blackslide> 'Good day
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1218 [12:02:50] <blackslide> I don't understand steams
approach anyhow, everything has been 64bit for ages, why the need
for 32bit OGL and gfx...
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1329 [13:00:43] <nbah> hello
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1332 [13:02:22] <format_c> hi
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1348 [13:06:10] <nbah> how to modify xorg configuration file?
there are already machined setup of xorg.conf and xorg.conf.in and
xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf Could I simply use instructions from
archlinux.org multihead page #configuration_using_xorg.conf, which
places a file '10-monitor.conf' in *.d dir?
1349 [13:07:20] <rant> nbah: you got the right idea
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1353 [13:09:55] <nbah> OTOH, slim GUI login manager, prompts for
user and password in a way that screen is extended in both monitors
LVDS1 (netbook) and VGA1 (external). I would like to just activate
LVDS1 at GUI login prompt. The user/password GUI login box is
"cut" by the edges of both monitors
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1357 [13:11:18] <format_c> AFAIK the modular xorg.conf
configuration is placed in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
1358 [13:11:36] <nbah> so it overrides?
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1361 [13:12:13] <format_c> apparently. There are some files in
there to adjust some sections
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1364 [13:12:44] <format_c> you can try to place your own files
there
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1366 [13:13:54] <nbah> what if I miss some configuration?
Isn't safe to edit the machined setup one? And add/remove lines
accordingly?
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1370 [13:17:02] <jelly-home> the right place to put xorg.conf
snippets is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ NOT /usr (you should never have to
edit anything under /usr)
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1372 [13:17:33] <nbah> oh man
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1374 [13:19:15] <format_c> oh interessting I don't even have
a xorg.conf.d directory under /etc/X11
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1376 [13:19:26] <format_c> sorry for confusing
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1379 [13:20:00] <jelly-home> if you need you can create it
yourself
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1381 [13:20:10] <format_c> thx
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1383 [13:20:14] <nbah> where are the IRC user profile reviews?
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1387 [13:23:15] <nbah> jelly-home: is my worry accounted?
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1389 [13:24:08] <nbah> if i miss a configuration like as is in
default xorg.conf(.in) ?
1390 [13:24:45] <jelly-home> um, there is no default xorg.conf
1391 [13:25:08] <nbah> well, there is one here
1392 [13:25:13] <nbah> ?
1393 [13:25:38] <jelly-home> nbah, which debian release do you
have installed?
1394 [13:26:12] <nbah> stretch
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1397 [13:29:24] <jelly-home> and you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf in
place?
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1399 [13:29:38] <nbah> yes
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1402 [13:29:54] <jelly-home> did you install non-free drivers or
something?
1403 [13:30:07] <nbah> no
1404 [13:30:36] <nbah> is a netbook; neither nvidia or amd
1405 [13:30:49] <jelly-home> was this system upgraded from an
older release? How did you install Debian?
1406 [13:31:19] <nbah> i sincerely don't remember
1407 [13:31:52] <jelly-home> you can move away that file and see
if there's any change. It's not present by default.
1408 [13:32:30] <nbah> not present? what triggers screen then?
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1411 [13:32:44] <nbah> i might have configure X manually,
couldn't I ?
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1416 [13:33:10] <nbah> GRUB?
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1418 [13:33:22] <jelly-home> Xorg server does autodetection.
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1420 [13:36:56] <nbah> isn't there a clever way? i first
create .conf file in *.d, but what if I miss some configuration?
what If I rename xorg.conf what are the drawbacks issues could
happen?
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1424 [13:38:13] <nbah> anyways, there is not willing to let
autodetect. I want to disable VGA1 external monitor on GUI login
prompt
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1428 [13:41:26] <nbah> and allow it ON on desktop session, AFTER
login
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1431 [13:41:55] <nbah> but this is afterwards, I made some startup
files to position the display how they are set
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1435 [13:44:20] <Emil> Hmm
1436 [13:44:25] <Emil> VLC refuses to play dvds
1437 [13:44:35] <Emil> was there some package or thing I had to do
first?
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1439 [13:44:55] <Emil> it's not show in Thunar either
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1444 [13:46:26] <BluesKaj> Emil, need more detail about "vlc
refuses to play"
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1446 [13:46:52] <nbah> anywhere I should place my question
otherwise?
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1450 [13:47:46] <Emil> BluesKaj: DVDRead could not open the disc
"/dev/sr0". VLC is unable to open the MRL
'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
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1453 [13:48:01] <hicks_> Don't you need something extra
installed to allow vlc to decrypt dvds?
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1455 [13:48:05] <Emil> Going to Sauna
1456 [13:48:13] <Emil> will be back in an hour
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1563 [14:54:38] <hypn0>
replaced-url
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1566 [15:00:37] <Emil> alrighty back
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1569 [15:01:30] <Emil> hypn0: it's alrady installed
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1581 [15:11:24] <Emil> I have sr 3:0:0:0: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive:
48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray in dmesg
1582 [15:11:32] <Emil> so it should be connected, right?
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1588 [15:15:51] <t3st3r> Emil> it seems it is.
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1594 [15:16:55] <Emil> So it should be a software issue but
I'm at a loss of how to continue debugging :D
1595 [15:17:01] <t3st3r> kernel also usually reports drive model
and so on
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1601 [15:18:36] <Emil> Ah could it be the Debian multimedia one
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1639 [15:59:27] <BluesKaj> Emil, check the DRM ?
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1664 [16:15:50] <JohnA> I run a debian server. one of the services
I use is webdav, ? is is there something 'better' than
webdav?
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1676 [16:25:32] <alkisg> JohnA:
replaced-url
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1682 [16:28:14] <Plan_Nine> good morning
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1696 [16:36:32] <JohnA> alkisg, thanks. but doesn't answer
the ? 'better'.
1697 [16:36:32] <nbah> hell
1698 [16:36:35] <nbah> hello
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1701 [16:37:27] <aokfire> Hi, just did a big move from NTFS ->
EXT4, but the final sizes are slightly concerning:
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1703 [16:38:36] <aokfire>
replaced-url
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1705 [16:39:08] <aokfire> FS as listed. Is this normal? The data
was moved 1:1, I'm surprised there's that much more space
used on the EXT4. Is it just how EXT4 handles data?
1706 [16:39:13] <nbah> in a multi head monitor setup, how to make
GUI login manager user/password prompt display only in laptop?
xorg.conf.d, no? what should be edited?
1707 [16:39:14] <aokfire> I did not use something like -T
largefile
1708 [16:39:17] <aokfire> thx
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1718 [16:41:35] <somiaj> aokfire: what command did you use to copy
the data?
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1720 [16:41:58] <aokfire> rsync -rtv --progress --log-file=log.log
/mnt/source/thedir /mnt/dest
1721 [16:42:05] <aokfire> was just one directory to finish up
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1723 [16:42:31] <aokfire> i feel it's related to how EXT4
stores files, but... not 100% familiar so
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1725 [16:43:00] <dpat> aokfire: what is the output of: fdisk -l |
grep Disk
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1727 [16:43:10] <somiaj> block size can have stuff to do with it.
Also reserved space in ext4 file systems don't always work
right when you use that much data on it.
1728 [16:43:22] <somiaj> but I don't know enough details to
say forsure.
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1731 [16:44:07] <aokfire> dpat
replaced-url
1732 [16:44:12] <aokfire> they're identical drives
1733 [16:44:22] <somiaj> but it could be just reserved space, by
default 5% of an ext4 file system is reserved for root only
1734 [16:44:27] <aokfire> euhh
1735 [16:45:01] <aokfire> I think I formatted the ext4 with that
option off
1736 [16:45:13] <metastable> aokfire: There's a sure-fire way
to validate this.
1737 [16:45:27] <aokfire> mkfs.ext4 -m 0 /dev/sdb
1738 [16:45:30] <somiaj> also found info that it could deal with
the number of i-nodes the file system reserved.
1739 [16:45:35] <metastable> ^
1740 [16:45:35] <aokfire> yeah
1741 [16:45:38] <aokfire> metastable what you suggest?
1742 [16:45:45] <metastable> On a filesystem that large, inodes
will consume a ton of space.
1743 [16:46:01] <aokfire> hm
1744 [16:46:09] <aokfire> I also did a tree -a on both dirs on
both drives
1745 [16:46:11] <aokfire> identical
1746 [16:46:24] <aokfire> so every file is there, but I guess it
comes down to inodes with ext4
1747 [16:46:34] <metastable> aokfire: Could sha1sum the entire
directory tree on both and diff the files.
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1749 [16:46:40] <aokfire> ouch
1750 [16:46:42] <metastable> If you want to ACTUALLY verify the
data.
1751 [16:46:44] <aokfire> thatll take forever lol
1752 [16:46:49] <aokfire> I figured rsync would, but...
1753 [16:46:55] <aokfire> not without --checksum it seems, which
is slow
1754 [16:47:04] <aokfire> the source drive is going into cold
storage now
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1756 [16:47:21] <aokfire> so if something is amiss I could just
push from the source drive.
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1759 [16:48:05] <somiaj> aokfire: note since you removed the
reserved block size to 0, when that drive gets full it will fragment
and take up more space.
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1761 [16:48:15] <aokfire> ah
1762 [16:48:19] <aokfire> is that bad or
1763 [16:48:24] <aokfire> I'm not reformatting this drive
lol...
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1767 [16:49:41] <somiaj> it just makes the drive run slower, but
gogole seems to have others in your boat. It is a combination of
things, but over all you have less than 1% difference, but the
little thing with inodes, maybe fragmentation (since you have no
reserved space), and block size could add up over 7TB of data.
1768 [16:51:20] <somiaj> what is the output of dumpe2fs on your
ext4 file system.
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1770 [16:51:27] <alkisg> JohnA: "better" depends on
"your user needs"... I don't know them
1771 [16:52:03] <blackslide> Hi, is there a way to revert to a
recent setup that worked, before installing stuff that altered
syslibs, etc?
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1776 [16:52:30] <blackslide> I installed steam and my x is broken.
I have no input after logon..
1777 [16:53:06] <somiaj> blackslide: how did you install steam?
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1779 [16:53:30] <blackslide> I went by the
replaced-url
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1781 [16:53:41] <nkuttler> blackslide: what do you mean, you have
no input?
1782 [16:53:52] <blackslide> it seems outdated since it talks
about Jessie/Sid and what not to do on Wheezy
1783 [16:53:52] <nkuttler> blackslide: try logging in as a
different user?
1784 [16:53:59] <blackslide> Mouse and kbd stop working
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1786 [16:54:21] <aokfire> somiaj
replaced-url
1787 [16:54:24] <nkuttler> blackslide: have you tried...
rebooting?
1788 [16:54:25] <aokfire> dunno if incomplete
1789 [16:54:28] <aokfire> I cancelled the command
1790 [16:54:42] <aokfire> but it has inodes listed
1791 [16:54:50] <blackslide> I created new user, but can't
login, root is not able to log into X, I tried Alt+SysRq+K but that
makes the logon screen also non-interactive :D
1792 [16:55:02] <blackslide> I have to force shutdown after I try
to logon
1793 [16:55:05] <nbah> any guidance? what? just remove monitor
section referring the external VGA monitor?
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1800 [16:55:50] <nkuttler> blackslide: how did you create a user
without input?
1801 [16:55:54] <somiaj> blackslide: so you added the
'jessie' source to a 'wheezy' install?
1802 [16:55:58] <blackslide> no
1803 [16:55:59] <aokfire> oh no
1804 [16:56:04] <aokfire> phew
1805 [16:56:17] <blackslide> I have non-free and contrib in the
sources
1806 [16:56:22] <somiaj> blackslide: so describe what you did.
1807 [16:56:22] <blackslide> just apt install steam
1808 [16:56:48] <somiaj> blackslide: can we see the output of
'apt policy' and 'apt policy steam'
1809 [16:57:18] <somiaj> blackslide: also do you use nvidia
drivers or some other graphic driver?
1810 [16:57:49] <blackslide> I only have intel integrated
1811 [16:58:02] <JohnA> alkisg, its a family server, I have 3
android, 2 laptop. various family members are similarly equipped.
total of about 20+ devices. needs are file sharing, calendar and
addresses, photos ...
1812 [16:58:47] <blackslide> but as the installation instructions
insisted on i386 driver I got xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 and
...xorg-core:i386 and ...video-abi23:i386
1813 [16:58:53] <somiaj> aokfire: not really sure on the culprit,
but it is probably a mix of inodes, block size, how the data was
palced on the blocks, and fragmentation given you don't have
reserved blocks and ext4 file systems don't work as well when
they get filled (why there should be at least some resreved blcoks).
Note the difference is only about 1% which isn't too bad if you
consider the blocksize/inodes could be way
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1815 [16:58:59] <somiaj> different than ntfs.
1816 [16:59:19] <blackslide> steam installed fine.. after reboot,
I can login but have no control over anything..
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1818 [16:59:25] <JohnA> alkisg, I setup the server about 10yrs
ago. its worked v well, but I wonder if there might be a
"better' way?
1819 [16:59:46] <somiaj> blackslide: why did you install all those
amd driver packages, for intel?
1820 [17:00:04] <somiaj> blackslide: seems like you messed with
your xorg configuration by installing some drivers for amd
1821 [17:00:10] <blackslide> aha, xorg core and abi23 are not for
intel?
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1824 [17:01:06] <somiaj> blackslide: considering it is only a
virtual package in stretch. I'm still waiting for the output of
the commands I asked for
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1827 [17:01:47] <blackslide> I'm still trying to figure out
how I could paste something from the console
1828 [17:01:52] <somiaj> !pastebinit
1829 [17:01:52] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a
<pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude
install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste
the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See
also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
1830 [17:02:13] <blackslide> ah, thanks, that's rather great
1831 [17:03:27] <alkisg> JohnA: if you need all those, perhaps
setup nextcloud then?
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1833 [17:04:46] <blackslide> apt policy is
replaced-url
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1839 [17:06:28] <JohnA> alkisg, thanks.
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1841 [17:06:48] <somiaj> blackslide: you did something with your
xorg setup, and it might just require debugging it. So I would first
boot into a console, check for any xorg.conf files in /etc/X11/ or
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, check your xorg logs and see what your server
is detecting.
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1845 [17:07:30] <blackslide> okay, I'll check what they look
like
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1851 [17:10:19] <blackslide> umm... I've got no xord.conf in
/etc/X11/ nor do I have xorg.conf.d folder under X11 either
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1853 [17:10:46] <blackslide> I'm using the default Debian
desktop environment (gdm3)
1854 [17:10:50] <somiaj> so in this case it is what xorg is
detecting, you can look at the xorg log and use startx to try to
debug what your machine is doing.
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1856 [17:11:27] <somiaj> I also wonder if maybe there is a waylend
issue here, but unsure. That xorg-video-abi-23 package you said you
insatlled seems strange to me, because it is only a virtual package
so I wonder what it pulled in.
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1875 [17:21:27] <blackslide> So I killed gnome, but I have no idea
how to start it, startx, xdm and xinit are not found?
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1878 [17:22:39] <yokisuci> blackslide: Are not found? =/ What have
you done? and doesn't the debian with gnome use gdm3?
1879 [17:22:55] <mtn> blackslide: systemctl start gdm or gdm3, not
sure which
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1881 [17:23:12] <blackslide> ah yea, gdm3
1882 [17:23:24] <blackslide> sry, was looking at xserver
manpage...
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1884 [17:23:40] <ruck4444> any system admin here?need some help
with a small task will pay in btc thanks pm me
1885 [17:23:45] <yokisuci> blackslide: Have you somehave managed
to uninstall xorg and that too? If yes, try to reinstall the
gnome-core package?
1886 [17:23:54] <metastable> ruck4444: That's not how this
works. What issue are you having?
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1889 [17:24:29] <ruck4444> metastable: i need to install some
software and im having problems doing so
1890 [17:24:40] <ruck4444> i have 6 servers and i need a
technician to help me install it
1891 [17:25:10] <metastable> ruck4444: No. You have six servers
and need to install it yourself. What problem are you encountering?
1892 [17:25:30] <ruck4444> metastable: i dont need to instal lit
myself i dont know enough about linux but thanks
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1894 [17:25:39] <ruck4444> im looking to hire someone and pay some
in advance to make trust
1895 [17:26:26] <yokisuci> ruck4444: I think you're in the
wrong place if you want to hire somone to do something...
1896 [17:26:28] <blackslide> gnome-core is allready the newest
version 1:3.22+3
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1899 [17:26:47] <metastable> ruck4444: There are websites and such
where you can hire people. This is not one of them. I'm curious
as to how much you're expecting to pay.
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1901 [17:27:03] <blackslide> sysctl gdm3 states: cannot stat
/proc/gdm3: no such file or directory
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1903 [17:27:13] <metastable> Thought not.
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1906 [17:28:06] <mtn> blackslide: try the command I gave you
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1908 [17:28:57] <blackslide> I tried, it then states: sysctl
cannot stat /proc/start no such file or directory and on the next
line the same for gdm3
1909 [17:29:07] <blackslide> ah
1910 [17:29:18] <blackslide> must be too tired..
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1913 [17:29:54] <blackslide> now, I wonder where do I see what it
does..
1914 [17:30:24] <blackslide> and well, xserver is not up and
running on any tty..
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1922 [17:31:29] <blackslide> quite hard to debug stuff with no
apparent logfiles..
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1930 [17:33:02] <t3st3r> [19:55:30] <blackslide> quite hard
to debug stuff with no apparent logfiles.. <- could be something
in journalctl?
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1934 [17:34:33] <blackslide> okay, I also found
/etc/gdm3/daemon.conf which has a debugging option..
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1942 [17:37:52] <blackslide> Isn't there an xsession-errors
log or something, somewhere?
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1944 [17:38:26] <t3st3r> journalctl tends to log most major
errors, even those not in log files, like stderr or non-zero return
codes.
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1948 [17:40:15] <blackslide> Yea, seems quite comprehensive, I
wonder how I could see what happens when I press Alt+SysRq+K or
Login
1949 [17:40:33] <blackslide> Since after I do either of those, I
have no means of controlling the system
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1951 [17:41:17] <blackslide> AltGr Fx does not respond. But the
system doesn't hang either, since it recognizes my android
being plugged in, etc..
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1953 [17:42:10] <t3st3r> try alt-sysrq-r maybe?
1954 [17:42:30] <blackslide> okay, I'll try that
1955 [17:42:38] <t3st3r> would switch keyboard to raw mode, maybe
that would do, if its keyboard what an issue
1956 [17:43:14] <aokfire> somiaj in the end I am sure it's
fine, at least there is free space and it seems all the files ar e
there
1957 [17:43:22] <aokfire> so it's all good. thanks for the
help :0
1958 [17:43:23] <aokfire> :)
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1960 [17:43:44] <aokfire> one more question. ON reboots it seems
that my eth interface doesn't go up, not sure why. anyway to
force that to happen?
1961 [17:43:54] <metastable> aokfire: How are you managing the
interface?
1962 [17:44:00] <blackslide> I'll have to reboot
1963 [17:44:02] <aokfire> i'm not sure tbh
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1965 [17:44:12] <metastable> aokfire: /e/n/interfaces, or
NetworkManager, or something else?
1966 [17:44:26] <metastable> Well, better question. Are you
running a desktop environment?
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1968 [17:44:31] <t3st3r> aokfire> hmm stupid but working way is
to put ifconfig ethX up in startup script.
1969 [17:44:31] <aokfire> no, cli
1970 [17:44:49] <t3st3r> there're better ways though
1971 [17:44:52] <aokfire> ah /etc/network/interfaces
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1973 [17:44:56] <aokfire> iface eth1 inet static
1974 [17:44:59] <aokfire> blah blah
1975 [17:45:09] <metastable> Pastebin that file, please.
1976 [17:45:11] <aokfire> anyway to force up? I think with auto it
would automatically ifup
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1978 [17:46:51] <javascript881> what do I do when 2 of my network
interfaces have the same hwaddr and I want to have them both up ?
1979 [17:46:59] <aokfire>
replaced-url
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1982 [17:48:11] <metastable> javascript881: Why/how do they both
have the same MAC?
1983 [17:48:11] <maxy> aokfire: I think you need a "auto
enp13s0" line
1984 [17:48:19] <metastable> ^
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1986 [17:48:29] <javascript881> metastable: I guess due to a lazy
manufacturer
1987 [17:48:45] <metastable> javascript881: That... No. Pastebin
the output of 'ip link,' please.
1988 [17:49:13] <aokfire> auto enp and that won't do DHCP
right?
1989 [17:49:20] <dvs> aokfire, yeah, you don't have an
"allow-hotplug enp13s0" line
1990 [17:49:43] <aokfire> it's there above with enp10s0,
forgot to rename
1991 [17:49:58] <javascript881> metastable:
replaced-url
1992 [17:49:59] <aokfire> is allow-hotplug good enough or I also
need auto enp
1993 [17:50:08] <dvs> aokfire, one or the other.
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1995 [17:50:50] <aokfire> i'll try auto hotplug ty
1996 [17:50:54] <aokfire> er allow
1997 [17:51:47] <metastable> javascript881: Yeah, that's
defective.
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1999 [17:52:20] <metastable> javascript881: Bad hardware. A
workaround is not your problem, getting properly functional hardware
is.
2000 [17:52:37] <javascript881> they work fine individually
2001 [17:52:52] <javascript881> let me turn one on so you can see
2002 [17:53:02] <metastable> Which doesn't change what I just
said.
2003 [17:53:02] <javascript881> oh nvm it'll disconnect me
2004 [17:53:07] <metastable> You have defective hardware.
2005 [17:53:14] <javascript881> how is it defective
2006 [17:53:35] <metastable> Are you kidding me? You have two
interfaces with the same MAC. That is a manufacturing defect.
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2008 [17:54:09] <abrotman> two PHYs?
2009 [17:54:19] <metastable> abrotman: Far as I can tell.
2010 [17:54:20] <javascript881> I can buy 100 of these modems and
they all have the same mac :/
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2012 [17:54:30] <abrotman> that's not abnormal .. it's
for redundancy
2013 [17:54:34] <maxy> javascript881: can't you just set a
different MAC?
2014 [17:54:47] <t3st3r> so if there're 2 cards with same mac
one can assign own mac after all
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2016 [17:55:03] <abrotman> not two cards, one card, two ports
2017 [17:55:05] <javascript881> won't I brick the modem ?
2018 [17:55:10] <abrotman> (That's what I meant)
2019 [17:55:11] <t3st3r> and bothering self to buy new HW due to
some eeprom oddities or so is stupid
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2027 [17:57:51] <aokfire> I think I might've asked it, but is
doing a mass chown/chmod -r bad?
2028 [17:57:59] <javascript881> maxy: I will try
2029 [17:58:06] <aokfire> unfortunately when doing NTFS -> EXT4
it copied the source drive permissions which were read only
2030 [17:58:07] <aokfire> and root
2031 [17:58:12] <maxy> IIRC most hardware allows to write the
devices' MAC via register (not permanent, IIRC there is a MDIO
register for that)
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2034 [17:58:24] <aokfire> doing a mass permissions change wont
modify actual files right
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2039 [17:59:15] <metastable> That's not redundancy, that IS
abnormal. That's either bad design or bad manufacturing. If
that's some quirk of the hardware, that's idiotic. In any
sane world, two physical NICs with the same MAC is defective and
should be sent right back to the manufacturer.
2040 [17:59:37] <dvs> aokfire, no but it may cause some programs
to stop working because it cannot read the config file anymore.
2041 [17:59:41] <metastable> But sure, let's keep screwing
around with MAC overrides and workarounds.
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2044 [18:00:11] <javascript881> maxy: I need to research how to
change mac so gonna take me a sec
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2047 [18:01:05] <aokfire> dvs it's all data, not config files
2048 [18:01:08] <aokfire> so it's just files
2049 [18:02:08] <maxy> javascript881: from memory, something like
"ifconfig eth0 hw addr 00:00:00:00:00:01", probably you
can do it with ip too
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2055 [18:03:46] <blackslide> so I removed desktop-base, gdm and
X11-common
2056 [18:04:10] <blackslide> and installed task-gnome-desktop
2057 [18:04:14] <blackslide> now it works again
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2060 [18:05:08] <javascript881> maxy: than you, I think it's
`ip link set eth0 address 02:01:02:03:04:08`
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2062 [18:05:20] <javascript881> but do I need to shut down network
before doing that ?
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2066 [18:06:49] <maxy> javascript881: it will be much better if
you send a gratious ARP after chainging your MAC, so peers know how
to reach your IP
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2073 [18:09:42] <maxy> but maybe linux is smart enough to do that
without network up/down cycle, I don't know
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2077 [18:10:26] <javascript881> maxy: I think I need to to down
the network -> change hwaddr -> network up
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2080 [18:10:35] <javascript881> writing everything down so give me
a min
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2094 [18:14:49] <javascript881> I'll be back on my desktop so
I can mess around with the network stuff on the laptop. brb
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2096 [18:15:32] <aokfire> yay it worked
2097 [18:15:35] <aokfire> ifup :)
2098 [18:15:40] <aokfire> thx
2099 [18:15:52] <aokfire> only other issue I'm still having
is:
replaced-url
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2103 [18:16:10] <aokfire> Softlocks using a Ryzen processor and
Linux in general. Anyone else have this/what solution worked under
Debian?
2104 [18:16:19] <javascript881> back
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2114 [18:20:27] <javascript881> I keep getting device or resource
busy
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2117 [18:21:34] <maxy> javascript881: btw. if you just invented a
MAC, you should keep the first byte 00 because it contains
broadcast/multicast flags
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2119 [18:22:10] <javascript881> maxy: thank you for that info, I
didn't know that :)
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2122 [18:22:32] <javascript881> when I stop both networking and
network-manager it says it's still busy
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2128 [18:23:06] <vlt> Hello. In a 6 disk md raid10 with a "2
near copies" setup, will the array still work without members 2
and 4?
2129 [18:23:11] <vlt> To me it looks as if the mirrored pairs are
0 and 1, 2 and 3, and 4 and 5.
2130 [18:23:36] <ArsenArsen> Can a remote computer pretend to be
127.0.0.1 and that way access localhost?
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2133 [18:26:02] <javascript881> got it, didn't put the
interface down! my bad
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2138 [18:29:22] <bitessss> ArsenArsen: if you are asking if a
computer on the internet can have the address, then no. the whole
127.0.0.1/8 space is reserved.
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2142 [18:30:06] <ArsenArsen> no, I'm asking if someone forged
a packet and it arives and eth0, pretending to be 127.0.0.1 will
that work or will it be dismissed
2143 [18:30:28] <maxy> ArsenArsen: at lest for TCP, it's not
going to pass the two-way handshake. For other protocols (like UDP,
ICMP) it can probably be faked if nobody filters it
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2145 [18:30:56] <ArsenArsen> Perfect, thank you
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2148 [18:31:22] <javascript881> ok I have 2 different hw addr now,
but network manager still doesn't allow me to have both
interfaces turned on at the same time
2149 [18:32:02] <javascript881> guess I need to ditch
network-manager
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2151 [18:33:11] <javascript881> brb dinner first
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2153 [18:36:20] <blackslide> steam seems to be working without all
the i386 shenanigans..
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2184 [18:51:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi peeps
2185 [18:52:02] <Eryn_1983_FL> how can i make dpkg or aptitude
install dependicies for a .deb i downloaded?
2186 [18:52:15] <Eryn_1983_FL> so i dont got to copy paste its
error output??
2187 [18:52:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> its long..
2188 [18:52:34] <somiaj> Eryn_1983_FL: after dpkg -i fails, try
apt -f install
2189 [18:52:35] <bitessss> you can run apt-get -f install after
dpkg fails.
2190 [18:52:56] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
2191 [18:52:57] <somiaj> Eryn_1983_FL: note, that it my not
possible to resolve the depends of some random .deb you download
2192 [18:53:06] <somiaj> I think apt can install .debs too
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2194 [18:53:08] <Eryn_1983_FL> right i understand
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2196 [18:53:50] <Eryn_1983_FL> trying to install new version of
firefox in strech..
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2200 [18:54:42] <annadane> you don't need a .deb for firefox
2201 [18:54:47] <annadane> see wiki.debian.org/Firefox
2202 [18:56:04] <somiaj> Eryn_1983_FL: where did you get this .deb
you download? If you got it from sid, it won't install in
stretch.
2203 [18:56:14] <Eryn_1983_FL> hmm
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2206 [18:57:11] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok ill follo what they got but i
want a newer version its slow and freezes
2207 [18:57:23] <Eryn_1983_FL> updating packages now
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2210 [18:59:21] <alkisg> Eryn_1983_FL: apt install ./file.deb
2211 [19:00:12] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah i ried that
2212 [19:00:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> following the wiki instead
2213 [19:00:25] <Eryn_1983_FL> was some other repo,
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2305 [19:37:43] <Eryn_1983_FL> its working peeps ty for all your
help
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2395 [20:14:59] <dracc> As far as I can tell, the Nexus 5 have
linux kernel support. Are there any other phones capable of running
'real' Linux out there today?
2396 [20:15:14] <dracc> Or is this a question for the offtopic
channel?
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2442 [20:38:56] <enkidu> hello. I need assistance in editing
polkit policy for system source refresh. At some point during
updates I had my account restricted from doing so
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2507 [21:02:09] <zomaar> What package creates /etc/subuid?
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2509 [21:02:17] <zomaar> It's not a conffile of any package
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2516 [21:04:24] <jelly> zomaar, there's a man subuid
2517 [21:04:41] <zomaar> Oh, login
2518 [21:04:55] <zomaar> Yeah but the manpage belongs to passwd
but login creates it
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2520 [21:05:57] <jelly> those are built from the same source
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2561 [21:24:12] <gamma-x> Trying to get an ap auto running in
systemd at startup and keep getting lacks both ExecStart= and
ExecStop= setting. Refusing. can someone help?
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2568 [21:27:03] <bitessss> gamma-x: so you have an [Install]
section with WantedBy=multi-user.target and a [Service] section with
ExecStart=<whatever> in your unit file?
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2572 [21:28:40] <gamma-x> bitessss, sent file contents in pm
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2574 [21:29:06] <bitessss> gamma-x: pastebin it on
paste.debian.net instead. others might want to help.
2575 [21:29:15] <gamma-x> roger that
2576 [21:29:39] <gamma-x>
replaced-url
2577 [21:30:00] <bitessss> first thing i would try is removing the
spaces before equal sign. not sure if that's relevant.
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2579 [21:30:25] <bitessss> eh, after the equal sign.
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2581 [21:31:00] <gamma-x> this is the output of var/syslog
replaced-url
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2583 [21:31:52] <bitessss> gamma-x: does it change after you
remove the spaces?
2584 [21:32:43] <gamma-x>
replaced-url
2585 [21:32:46] <gamma-x> new output
2586 [21:33:09] <gamma-x> so no, its the same.
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2592 [21:34:37] <bitessss> gamma-x: that's after you ran
systemctl daemon-reload ?
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2596 [21:36:04] <gamma-x> nope, i ran sudo systemctl start
xlinkkai
2597 [21:36:24] <bitessss> run systemctl daemon-reload every time
you change a unit file.
2598 [21:37:24] <enkidu> I'll ask again: how to make (in
Debian way) polkit allow my regular user to refresh system sources?
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2600 [21:40:11] <gamma-x> bitessss, new output on syslog
replaced-url
2601 [21:40:18] <gamma-x> after reloading and starting
2602 [21:41:12] <gamma-x> Do i need to put a ./ in the executable
line/
2603 [21:41:45] <jelly> use absolute paths.
2604 [21:41:56] <enkidu> only way I found was to edit /usr/share
files, not the rules in /etc/
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2613 [21:47:56] <gamma-x> still saying path is not absolute but i
put in the full path just now and same thing
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2615 [21:48:53] <cocos> is debian's logo still the little
devil guy?
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2617 [21:49:11] <wigums> thats freebsd mascot
2618 [21:49:17] <cocos> it was in 2003!
2619 [21:49:17] <somiaj> gamma-x: what is the full path? ./foo
would not be absolute.
2620 [21:49:27] <cocos> oh
2621 [21:49:27] <wigums> no it wasnt
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2624 [21:50:14] <bitessss> gamma-x: also check the output of
systemd-analyze verify /etc/systemd/system/<yourunit>
2625 [21:50:19] <gamma-x> new output
replaced-url
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2627 [21:51:28] <zzz> hey people. im trying to install debian for
the 1st time as a vm. i'm having trouble configuring apt
because i cant connect to a mirror. im suspect a problem with the
network config but i cant seem to solve it
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2629 [21:52:23] <zzz> (debian 9 netinstall)
2630 [21:52:31] <somiaj> gamma-x: you have to run systemctl
daemon-reload to update any changes made
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2632 [21:54:28] <jelly> with a path like /home/pi/ I'm
starting to suspect gamma-x is running raspbian and not debian...
2633 [21:54:58] <bitessss> maybe pi is their favorite constant.
2634 [21:55:44] <gamma-x> ok so the file wasnt back in
/etc/systemd/system/ so i put the file back in there and reloaded
and started the file and the new output of syslog is
replaced-url
2635 [21:55:53] <gamma-x> raspbian is correct :)
2636 [21:56:42] <bitessss> "Failed at step CHDIR spawning
/home/pi/Downloads/kaiEngine-7.4.31/kaiengine: No such file or
directory"
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2638 [21:56:46] <bitessss> check your paths
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2644 [21:58:54] <jelly> !raspbian
2645 [21:58:54] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
replaced-url
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2647 [21:59:55] <jelly> gamma-x, that extra / at the end of
WorkingDirectory probably shouldn't matter, but you might
remove it anyway
2648 [22:00:09] <gamma-x> well the rest of the output looks
correctish... ok
2649 [22:00:50] <gamma-x> jelly, much appreciated. u guys have
gotten me much father then i expected with this :)
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2657 [22:03:03] <bitessss> hello zzz. what kind of device is that?
a laptop with wifi? did you get a message about missing firmware?
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2662 [22:05:10] <zzz> bitessss: i just solved it. im using vmware
fusion on a mac and as it turns out i had to bridge my network
connection
2663 [22:05:33] <bitessss> \o/
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2667 [22:08:14] <zzz> bitessss still, i didnt get why i *had* to
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2670 [22:09:11] <bitessss> to bad i don't know anything about
vmware, fusion or macs.
2671 [22:09:20] <bitessss> or spelling.
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2673 [22:10:45] <sine0> how can i find out what package an app is
part of
2674 [22:10:53] <sine0> for example dig is part of dnsutils right
2675 [22:11:03] <sine0> but how to i go from dig to dnsutils
without knowing
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2677 [22:11:09] <_KaszpiR_> dpkg -s
2678 [22:11:09] <dpkg> _KaszpiR_: I wish you would RTFM.
2679 [22:12:39] <_KaszpiR_> dpkg -S /usr/bin/dig
2680 [22:12:39] <dpkg> Badgers ate my /usr/bin/dig!
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2683 [22:13:53] * zzz lol at dpkg
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2687 [22:14:13] <_KaszpiR_> badger badger badger
2688 [22:14:23] <sine0> thanks
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2690 [22:15:00] <annadane> bad dpkg. go to your room.
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2696 [22:16:29] <keinek> hi
2697 [22:16:49] <keinek> two weeks ago debian stable update to
4.9.65-3+deb9u2 kernel
2698 [22:17:07] <keinek> but today in new installation, dont
update,
2699 [22:17:29] <keinek> this is cos this kernel is still
vulnerable?
2700 [22:17:32] <somiaj> keinek: if using apt-get you need to use
dist-upgrade, and you need to have security sources in your
sources.list to get the update.
2701 [22:17:50] <somiaj> the install will contain the older kernel
until the new point release is made.
2702 [22:17:53] <keinek> somiaj: thanks, i do this but dont update
the kernel
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2704 [22:18:08] <somiaj> then you need to add security sources to
your soruces.list
2705 [22:18:41] <keinek> deb
replaced-url
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2708 [22:19:01] <keinek> this line is enoght?
2709 [22:19:04] <somiaj> stretch-updates is not security soruces.
2710 [22:19:08] <somiaj> !security sources
2711 [22:19:15] <somiaj> !security
2712 [22:19:15] <dpkg> Put "deb
replaced-url
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2714 [22:19:34] <keinek> ok my mistake, thanks somiaj
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2724 [22:23:03] <arCABAL_> I am trying to copy over my debian root
partition to a second ssd and boot from that somehow i'm still
booting from the old partition. I tried using both grub-update and
grub-install but I think somehow grub doesn't update
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2726 [22:23:36] <arCABAL_> the current root partition is on an lvm
which i want to get rid of
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2728 [22:23:58] <Brigo> arCABAL_, you have to chroot in the new
installation and use from there grub-install
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2730 [22:24:10] <arCABAL_> ah ok. thanks i'll try
2731 [22:24:13] <somiaj> arCABAL_: did you boot off a live system
and chroot into the new system to do this. Most likely grub is still
using the uuid of the old partition.
2732 [22:24:29] <somiaj> actually I guess you don't really
need a live system..chroot is fine
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2737 [22:26:13] <arCABAL_> hmm i probably need to bind mount some
stuff right now. I'm booted into the old root partition
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2739 [22:27:32] <jelly> arCABAL_, do the old and new filesystems
have identical uuid or label?
2740 [22:27:51] <jelly> (they really shouldn't)
2741 [22:27:59] <arCABAL_> nope
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2744 [22:28:15] <arCABAL_> i should also mention that the old
filesystem is inside an lvm lv and the new one isn't
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2746 [22:28:24] <jelly> that doesn't matter really
2747 [22:28:28] <arCABAL_> ok great
2748 [22:29:08] <Brigo> arCABAL_, there is plenty of information
of how to chroot available.
2749 [22:29:18] <jelly> look at the generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg
and see if it references the correct uuid
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2751 [22:29:54] <arCABAL_> if the mount point for sys doesn't
exist, does that mean i should create it?
2752 [22:30:03] <Brigo> actually:
2753 [22:30:13] <Brigo> !chroot
2754 [22:30:13] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to
your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console
(Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2
/dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable
with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none
/target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then
chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
2755 [22:30:27] <jelly> arCABAL_, you really want /sys and /proc
and /dev directories to exist in your / fs yes
2756 [22:30:49] <techneeded1> i need a headless linux app made for
my project paying in bitcoin anyone interested priv me thanks
2757 [22:30:52] <arCABAL_> do i really have to boot into a live
system? can't i do this all from within the old root system?
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2759 [22:30:57] <jelly> also it means you didn't clone the /
fs correctly :-)
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2762 [22:31:08] <bitessss> just skip the live system bit.
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2765 [22:32:05] <arCABAL_> this is what i used to create the
backup: tar cpvf / --exclude='/dev' path/to/rootbackup.tar
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2767 [22:33:20] <arCABAL_> and this is what i used in a newly
created partition with ext4 fs: tar -cpvf path/to/rootbackup.tar
--exclude='./dev' --one-file-system .
2768 [22:33:44] <vlt> Hello. In a 6 disk md raid10 array with a
"2 near copies" setup, will the array still work without
members 2 and 4?
2769 [22:33:50] <vlt> To me it looks as if the mirrored pairs are
0 and 1, 2 and 3, and 4 and 5.
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2772 [22:34:09] <ezraR> I am having a problem finding the
checkinstall package on one of my computers the sourcelist is the
same for both
2773 [22:34:30] <ezraR> anyone have an idea what could cause this?
This is the source list
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2776 [22:35:11] <jelly> ,v checkinstall
2777 [22:35:12] <judd> Package: checkinstall on amd64 -- jessie:
1.6.2-4; sid: 1.6.2-4; stretch: 1.6.2-4; wheezy: 1.6.2-4
2778 [22:35:29] <jelly> ezraR, it's not present in buster
(current testing) at all.
2779 [22:35:42] <jelly> !why is checkinstall not in testing
2780 [22:35:42] <dpkg> checkinstall is not in testing for the
reasons listed in
replaced-url
2781 [22:35:43] <ezraR> that might explain it
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2783 [22:35:59] <ezraR> i already had it installed on one computer
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2785 [22:36:54] <jelly> ezraR, testing is often incomplete due to
transitions or just plain bugs.
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2787 [22:37:27] <ezraR> thanks
2788 [22:37:42] <jelly> deal with it by fixing bugs, or mixing
testing and unstable, or using stable
2789 [22:37:48] <jelly> !debian-next
2790 [22:37:48] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2791 [22:37:55] <jelly> !tum
2792 [22:37:56] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one
set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable
install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as
usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release:
set Preferences->Distribution.
2793 [22:39:21] <arCABAL_> i ran this command in my root
environment but still getting an error: mount --bind /dev /dev
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2795 [22:39:51] <arCABAL_> any ideas what im doing wrong?
2796 [22:40:00] <arCABAL_> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot
find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
2797 [22:40:10] <bitessss> trying to bindmount /dev to itself?
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2800 [22:42:36] <jelly> arCABAL_, you want to bind mout /dev from
OUTSIDE chroot to the directory
/where/future/root/is/mounted/right/now/dev
2801 [22:43:07] <jelly> likewise with /sys
2802 [22:43:10] <arCABAL_> aha
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2805 [22:44:51] <arCABAL_> too bad, i'm getting this: mount:
mount point /newroot/proc does not exist
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2808 [22:45:27] <jelly> maybe mkdir it?!?!
2809 [22:45:35] <arCABAL_> i did
2810 [22:45:53] <jelly> do it outside of chroot
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2813 [22:46:06] <arCABAL_> yeah that is what i tried
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2815 [22:46:21] <jelly> and what does "ls -ld
/newroot/proc" say?
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2817 [22:46:54] <arCABAL_> oops my bad. i forgot a part of the
absolute part, the /mnt/ part.
2818 [22:47:28] <arCABAL_> the new partition is mounted in
/mnt/newroot
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2822 [22:48:34] <arCABAL_> *absolute path
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2825 [22:51:01] <jelly> arCABAL_, also do you have a separate
/boot?
2826 [22:51:07] <arCABAL_> no
2827 [22:51:13] <jelly> if not you might really need to
grub-install again
2828 [22:51:27] <arCABAL_> on the second ssd?
2829 [22:51:40] <jelly> on whatever disk you're booting from
2830 [22:51:45] <arCABAL_> k
2831 [22:52:13] <ezraR> if stable has checkinstall at 1.6.2-4 why
would that bug block it from testing? Just a process that
doesn't always make sense but is safe?
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2833 [22:52:31] <annadane> ,v checkinstall
2834 [22:52:33] <judd> Package: checkinstall on amd64 -- jessie:
1.6.2-4; sid: 1.6.2-4; stretch: 1.6.2-4; wheezy: 1.6.2-4
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2836 [22:52:59] <arCABAL_> from within chroot:
2837 [22:53:01] <arCABAL_> # grub-install /dev/nvme0n1
2838 [22:53:01] <arCABAL_> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
2839 [22:53:01] <arCABAL_> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI
directory.
2840 [22:53:12] <annadane> packages from stable came from testing
back when it was still in testing; that isn't surprising by
itself
2841 [22:53:38] <annadane> oh, apologies, i missed the earlier
conversation
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2843 [22:54:08] <arCABAL_> oh i made a mistake. i do have a
separate boot partition
2844 [22:54:27] <arCABAL_> no wait its the efi partition, and its
mounted at /boot/efi
2845 [22:54:33] <arCABAL_> so no separate boot partition
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2847 [22:55:12] <jelly> that's different and I think you
still install grub on the whole disk and let it find the efiboot
partition on that disk on its own
2848 [22:55:21] <jelly> but I may be wrong
2849 [22:55:38] <jelly> don't have a lot of EFI machines
2850 [22:56:16] <gamma-x> jelly, mind if i ask a few follow on
questions regarding auto start? I got it working when I start it
with systemctl but it wont autostart on boot
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2854 [22:57:43] <jelly> gamma-x, I don't mind but also I
won't be the one to answer them :-)
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2856 [22:57:58] <gamma-x> :)
2857 [22:57:59] <bitessss> ezraR: it got removed from testing
because of a bug. stable has an older version of checkinstall.
2858 [22:58:16] <bitessss> gamma-x: just pastebin your current
unit file.
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2860 [22:59:05] <bitessss> ezra-s: eh, it doesn't, but stable
doesn't get packages removed like testing does.
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2862 [22:59:38] <annadane> only if it's unmaintained afaik
2863 [22:59:46] <n4dir> hence a mixed testing/unstable system
ain't a solution that bad, in my humble opinion.
2864 [23:00:26] <enkidu> anyone fluent in polkit management here?
2865 [23:00:57] <gamma-x> bitessss,
replaced-url
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2867 [23:01:53] <bitessss> gamma-x: have you enabled it? that
install bit gets parsed if you run systemctl enable <urunit>
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2874 [23:04:53] <pr0tocol> hello, everyone
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2879 [23:08:20] <arCABAL_> thanks jelly. the problem was that i
also had to mount the efi partition before i could install grub
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2882 [23:10:36] <jelly> I guess that makes sense for grub-efi
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2897 [23:16:32] <gamma-x> i did, it shows as enabled under
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2924 [23:33:00] <hid3> Hello. My XFS filesystem ran out of
space... How do I grow the filesystem? Block device has got free
space...
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2926 [23:34:32] <RoyK> hid3: xfs_growfs
2927 [23:35:11] <RoyK> hid3: if this is on lvm, use lvresize first
2928 [23:35:25] <hid3> RoyK, I have done "xfs_growfs
/mnt/data" but nothing happens. It just displayed some info and
that's it
2929 [23:35:34] <hid3> no LVMs there. Filesystem on bare metal
2930 [23:35:37] <RoyK> hid3: if it's on a partition, edit the
partition table first
2931 [23:35:51] <hid3> oh..
2932 [23:35:58] <hid3> not sure how to do that properly
2933 [23:36:04] <hid3> I mean, without destroying it
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2935 [23:36:08] <RoyK> gparted is quite nice
2936 [23:36:22] <hid3> is it CLI based?
2937 [23:36:27] <RoyK> as for next time, use lvm ;)
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2939 [23:36:43] <hid3> don't like LVMs, extra layer of
abstraction
2940 [23:36:44] <jelly> or put the fs on whole disk, no
partitions!
2941 [23:36:44] <RoyK> gparted is graphical - works well over x11
forward over ssh
2942 [23:37:09] <RoyK> hid3: I use lvm with everything except when
using zfs ;)
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2944 [23:37:14] <jelly> hid3, maybe, but that layer can be resized
online without reboot. Partitions on linux usually can't.
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2947 [23:37:53] <hid3> is there any way to do that with fdisk?
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2949 [23:38:02] <RoyK> the performance penalty is negligible
2950 [23:38:28] <RoyK> hid3: just remove the partition and create
a new and larger one, starting at the same sector
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2952 [23:38:40] <bitessss> if you have space after the partition.
if the space is in front it's harder.
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2954 [23:39:05] <hid3> space should be after
2955 [23:39:05] <RoyK> jelly: resizing partitions while running
works unless there are mounted filesystems there
2956 [23:39:13] <hid3> alright, need to try with fdisk...
2957 [23:39:14] <RoyK> just use lvm
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2959 [23:39:22] <RoyK> partitions are so 1980
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2961 [23:39:42] <bitessss> running but no mounted partitions...
wat?
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2964 [23:40:00] <jelly> RoyK, having to umount is not
"running" in my book
2965 [23:40:16] <RoyK> you won't be able to re-read the
partition table if the disk has mounted filesystems
2966 [23:40:33] <RoyK> so - just - use - lvm :þ
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2968 [23:40:49] <jelly> more precisely, if ANY of the partitions
are in use. mounted, swapon, nbd...
2969 [23:41:02] <RoyK> yes
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2971 [23:41:38] <hid3> regarding last sector, what should be the
number for partition to be "aligned"?
2972 [23:41:50] <hid3> number -1 should be dividable by 8 ?
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2974 [23:41:58] <hid3> or number +1 should be dividable by 8?
2975 [23:42:03] <hid3> don't remember :)
2976 [23:42:05] <jelly> hid3, if you can align to 1MiB
(2048sectors) do that
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2981 [23:42:44] <hid3> so the default offered for me is 3221225438
2982 [23:42:49] <hid3> not sure if that number is okay or not
2983 [23:42:59] * RoyK wonders why some people avoid LVM - redhat/centos
has used it by default for over a decade - it just works
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2986 [23:43:23] <bitessss> because it takes time to learn.
it's not trivial.
2987 [23:43:32] <RoyK> it actually is
2988 [23:43:36] <RoyK> quite trivial
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2993 [23:43:55] <RoyK> and you'll never go back after
learning it
2994 [23:44:06] <jelly> RoyK, redhat also employs d-m and lvm
developers, so they make sure it works and they always have the
latest. Other distros use some version and stick with it.
2995 [23:44:08] <bitessss> yeah, it only has like fourty different
commands.
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2999 [23:44:43] <RoyK> jelly: redhat has an earlier version of
things than compared to stretch
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3001 [23:45:00] <RoyK> bitessss: just a few that normally matter
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3003 [23:45:17] <jelly> RoyK, not for d-m they don't,
it's often updated in point releases
3004 [23:45:26] <RoyK> {lv,vg,pv}{create,extend,remove}
3005 [23:45:55] <RoyK> jelly: well, I guess all my debian
installations are fucked, then, because I use lvm? ;)
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3009 [23:46:39] <jelly> RoyK, yes, you ought to use RHEL :-D
3010 [23:46:53] <RoyK> not in this lie
3011 [23:46:55] <RoyK> not in this life
3012 [23:47:12] <RoyK> we use RHEL at work, and I don't quite
like it, so to say
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3014 [23:47:45] <jelly> installers of neither allow putting PV
onto whole disk anyway
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3016 [23:48:02] <RoyK> I know
3017 [23:48:21] <jelly> and d-i still defaults to "hey
let's use 100%FREE for the last LV"
3018 [23:48:26] <RoyK> rhel/centos installers don't allow for
mdraid, though, which sucks
3019 [23:48:34] <RoyK> I never do that
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3021 [23:48:54] <RoyK> just create smaller LVs for your
filesystems and extend whenever needed
3022 [23:49:05] <hid3> strange, doesn't allow me to set size
over 1.5T which is current size
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3024 [23:49:14] <hid3> although space has been added to block
device....
3025 [23:49:36] <RoyK> hid3: wht does lsblk have to say?
3026 [23:49:40] <hid3> when trying to re-scan scsi bus, I got this
in dmesg:
3027 [23:49:41] <hid3> [116988040.774167] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Very
big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
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3029 [23:49:56] <jelly> partman in d-i leads the user to really
bad partition/lv setups
3030 [23:50:03] <hid3> sdb 8:16 0 2.1T 0 disk
3031 [23:50:03] <hid3> ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.5T 0 part
3032 [23:50:10] <hid3> ^-- this is for lsblk
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3034 [23:50:28] <jelly> hid3, this output is normal for disks
larger than 2TiB
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3036 [23:50:48] <RoyK> jelly: really? never seen it on 64bit
systems
3037 [23:50:50] <hid3> so okay, how to create a partition of 2
TiB?
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3039 [23:51:12] <RoyK> DOS partitions don't support >2TB
3040 [23:51:31] <hid3> I use Debian, not DOS
3041 [23:51:43] <RoyK> well, I'm talking about the partition
table format
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3043 [23:52:02] <hid3> okay, so does it support only 1.5 T? How to
increase size of it?
3044 [23:52:18] <RoyK> fdisk
3045 [23:52:26] <RoyK> parted
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3047 [23:52:40] <RoyK> if you want a partition table >2TB, use
GPT
3048 [23:52:49] <hid3> doesn't allow to set me anything above
1.5T, not sure why
3049 [23:52:55] <RoyK> or just use LVM to avoid future problems
:þ
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3052 [23:53:20] <hid3> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P}
(2048-3221225438, default 3221225438): +1.9T
3053 [23:53:20] <hid3> Value out of range.
3054 [23:53:40] <jelly> hid3, which debian release is this
3055 [23:53:40] <hid3> I'm lost, please help
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3059 [23:53:55] <hid3> Debian 8.10
3060 [23:54:01] <RoyK> hid3: make sure you have a backup
3061 [23:54:12] <jelly> hid3, what does "blockdev --getsize64
/dev/sda" say
3062 [23:54:16] <hid3> It's a debian mirror, so backup is
around the world
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3064 [23:54:25] <hid3> sdb, you probably mean
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3066 [23:54:32] <jelly> right
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3068 [23:54:37] <hid3> root@debian:/home/hid3# blockdev
--getsize64 /dev/sdb
3069 [23:54:37] <hid3> 2254857830400
3070 [23:55:05] <jelly> what a weird size
3071 [23:55:27] <jelly> 2100 GiB
3072 [23:55:31] <hid3> originally it was 1.5T but later some space
was added (this is in VMware)
3073 [23:55:34] <RoyK> 2,1TiB, then, too large for MBR partition
tables
3074 [23:55:54] <hid3> not all size can be used
3075 [23:56:05] <hid3> I am OK to use maximum possible size
"as per old design"
3076 [23:56:07] <RoyK> or 2.05TiB, really
3077 [23:56:21] <jelly> our vmware guests have two disks: one for
/boot, one unpartitioned with lvm :-) for everything else
3078 [23:56:37] <jelly> RoyK, no, it's _exactly_ 2100 GiB
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3080 [23:56:46] <RoyK> which is 2.05TiB ;)
3081 [23:56:57] <jelly> not exactly
3082 [23:57:07] <RoyK> 2.05078125TiB, then
3083 [23:57:16] <jelly> and that's silly to type
3084 [23:57:27] <hid3> so okay.. What should be next steps?
3085 [23:57:27] <jelly> or to configure
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3087 [23:58:01] <jelly> hid3, resize the partition to a bit less
than 2TiB
3088 [23:58:21] <jelly> that's the maximum size for MBR
part.table format
3089 [23:59:00] <hid3> jelly, please take a look at this:
replaced-url
3090 [23:59:36] <jelly> okay, but could you use a less broken
pastebin site in the future please, like paste.debian.net or
paste.ubuntu.com
3091 [23:59:53] <hid3> sorry, didn't know it was broken
3092 [23:59:53] <RoyK> erm - fdisk doesn't support GPT
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