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38[00:27:24] <gunix> how can i configure gnome 3 to get a
notification every time an update is available?
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40[00:28:41] <annadane> gunix, you can install pk-update-icon
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41[00:28:52] <annadane> though i'm not too familiar with
gnome, perhaps a better solution exists
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42[00:29:14] <annadane> intuitively you would think that gnome
already has something like that but *shrug*
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43[00:29:33] <annadane> (and also set pk-update-icon to
autostart when gnome starts)
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44[00:29:48] <gunix> there is an interface for software &
updates, however it allows only for daily checks (not every hour,
for example), and only the option for security updates is displayed.
the one for other updates is not
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45[00:29:57] <gunix> the one for all updates is greyed out
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50[00:34:59] <QuadBad> Any way I can throttle CPU MHZ, or set
the cpu fan to stay on 24-7 (No options in BIOS) [Compaq Presario
C700] The cpu gets around 90 degrees even when not doing too much
maybe just youtube but it is a single core but meh
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53[00:37:59] <gena2x> try replace thermal grease
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55[00:38:41] <gena2x> and clean stuff up first
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59[00:39:54] <linoge> Hi there, could anyone point me to
literature on how to add files to initramfs on debian please :)?
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65[00:41:36] <gena2x> linoge, I would read existing scripts
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67[00:41:52] <somiaj> linoge: check /etc/initramfs-tools
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69[00:43:00] <linoge> I'll check, thanks ;-)
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70[00:43:02] <somiaj> also
/usr/share/doc/initramfs-tools/examples for example hooks, scripts
or modules that can add stuff during the build process
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71[00:43:32] <somiaj> initramfs-tools also has a man page
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83[00:47:28] <gunix> annadane: found it:
replaced-url
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85[00:47:40] <annadane> ah, cool
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88[00:48:16] <annadane> makes sense it's in extensions
already
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112[01:09:52] <petitor> Hey, I'm having some trouble
installing Debian on a UEFI laptop. Grabbed the amd64 netinstall
media, dd'd it to a USB flash drive, but I can't get any
combination of UEFI/legacy/CSM working with the flash drive. After
booting into my current installation of linux, gparted is showing
that it's unable to detect the filesystem and fdisk shows it as
a dos fs without UUID.
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118[01:12:54] <somiaj> petitor: what was the exact dd command
you used to write the usb drive, and is this on Mac osX or another
linux distro?
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119[01:12:59] <somiaj> petitor: also did you disable secure
boot?
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122[01:15:01] <petitor> Secure boot is disabled, and the exact
command I issued on linux is: 'dd
if=/path/to/debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
&& sync'.
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126[01:16:58] <petitor> With the paths changed, obviously.
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139[01:24:42] <linoge> succeeded, thanks very much gena2x,
somiaj ;-).
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140[01:25:05] <somiaj> petitor: did you really type /dev/sdX?
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142[01:26:10] <petitor> No, the literal address is
'/dev/sdb1'.
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145[01:27:38] <prappl93> petitor, you'd just put /dev/sdb
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146[01:27:47] <prappl93> No partition number
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149[01:29:57] <somiaj> petitor: that is your problem, point at
the disk, /dev/sdb not the partition, /dev/sdb1
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151[01:30:04] <somiaj> petitor: see having the exact thing you
typed helps. (:
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167[01:42:49] <petitor> somiaj: Thanks, that definitely helped.
Lost my connection for a second, and now I'll be messing with
getting the installer to work with my hardware for a little while.
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179[01:48:34] <Iridos> dpkg, pip
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180[01:48:35] <dpkg> The "pip" utility (in the
python-pip package) permits the installation of python modules. Use
of this as root for system-wide installation can break packaged
python modules and applications and is not recommended. Use in a
<virtualenv> or for a single user in ~/.local/ can have
similar effects but at least the breakage is limited to one user.
See <local python>
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182[01:48:58] <Iridos> that doesn't actually recommend
anything on what to do if you want additional modules
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195[01:54:25] <AlexPortable> What is a good substitute to notate
the time in a filename when you can't use : ?
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197[01:54:58] <AlexPortable> also no /
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200[01:55:30] <eck> unicode snowman maybe
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201[01:55:56] <Iridos> depends on you?
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204[01:57:03] <AlexPortable> what do you mean depends on you
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207[01:57:48] <Iridos> use a . ?
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209[01:58:06] <Iridos> or date +%s
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210[01:58:22] <AlexPortable> . not allowed
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212[01:58:29] <AlexPortable> since it implies an extension
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213[01:58:35] <Iridos> it doesn't
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214[01:58:46] <Iridos> well, it may imply it to you…
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216[01:58:49] <Iridos> so it depends on you
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218[01:58:54] <AlexPortable> some filesystems might imply it
like an extension
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219[01:58:58] <AlexPortable> i personally dont care
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222[01:59:25] <Loeb> I'm trying to downgrade fontconfig
from 2.12(.3-0.2) to 2.11(.0-6.7), but when I do apt-get install
fontconfig=2.11.0-6.7, it says package not found. I got the older
version # from apt-cache madison. What am I doing wrong?
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226[02:00:49] <Iridos> judd, versions fontconfig
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227[02:00:50] <judd> Package: fontconfig on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.9.0-7.1; wheezy-security: 2.9.0-7.1+deb7u1; jessie:
2.11.0-6.3+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.11.0-6.3+deb8u1; stretch:
2.11.0-6.7+b1; buster: 2.12.3-0.2; sid: 2.12.3-0.2
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234[02:01:43] <Iridos> if this is stable … you
shouldn't mix testing into stable
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236[02:02:14] <ransur0t> Curious, what is the current
tool/package for software update notifications with gnome
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238[02:02:57] <Iridos> and the version string is 2.11.0-6.7+b1
according to judd… it has to match exactly
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239[02:02:59] <Loeb> I'm on testing, but I guess fontconfig
didn't get updated until recently
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241[02:03:38] <ransur0t> I'm perfectly comfortable with a
regular apt update && apt dist-upgrade, but, if I'm
feeling lazy ... alernatives?
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243[02:04:04] <Loeb> @ransur0t, apt-get upgrade ?
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244[02:04:04] <Iridos> I don't see how you could get
anything but the stable/testing/sid versions with apt-get madison
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246[02:04:41] <Loeb> yeah madison gives me... ooooh, I think I
see. only 2.12 is Packages, 2.11 is in there as Sources
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247[02:04:47] <Loeb> so I guess the package isn't available
then?
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248[02:05:03] <Iridos> it should be in snapshots
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249[02:05:07] <Iridos> but maybe not just yet
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251[02:05:35] <Loeb> I'd like to get this rolled back
somehow, cause my fonts are WAY different and it's very
annoying.
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252[02:05:47] <Iridos> pft, or archives… naming of
somethings is slightly… babilonyan
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253[02:05:57] <Iridos> dpkg, snapshots
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254[02:05:57] <dpkg>
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256[02:06:03] <ransur0t> Loeb: notifications tool (update via
cli not an issue)
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259[02:06:56] <Iridos> Loeb, have you checked if you still have
the deb in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
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260[02:07:21] <Loeb> It seems as though I do
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261[02:07:25] <Loeb> can I just dpkg -i from there?
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262[02:07:30] <Iridos> then … right
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263[02:07:48] <Iridos> that's what it's for
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267[02:09:05] <Iridos> well, he *seemed* grateful, right?
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270[02:10:00] <Loeb> Well that changed it. But my fonts are
still weird. :(
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271[02:10:31] <Loeb> I wish I knew what the old fonts were. I
tried uninstalling fonts-open-sans and they were closer... but they
looked kinda broke. Maybe I should check that package.
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275[02:11:19] <ransur0t> gnome-packagekit?
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276[02:11:23] <Iridos> you might want to ask #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net for testing/unstable… there's more people
there who run it
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277[02:11:33] <Loeb> I asked there earlier today, seemed pretty
dead,
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279[02:11:58] <Iridos> well, fewer people overall… but
more who might have the same problem
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280[02:12:01] <Loeb> I'm also WAY behind on packages, I had
only been doing upgrade and not dist-upgrade, so it could have been
who knows what
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284[02:14:21] <ransur0t> gonna go with gnome-packagekit ;)
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287[02:16:02] <Loeb> Hmm...is there a way to show what exact
version changes there were from an apt upgrade?
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289[02:16:11] <Loeb> I've got a list of the packages from
something in here but it just shows the version that got installed
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295[02:18:08] <Iridos> there's
/var/log/{apt/history.log,aptitude,dpkg.log}
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297[02:18:12] <Sveta> Loeb: guix / nix have transactional
package manager, maybe it is useful for you .. allows to rollback
updates ( no idea how that integrates into debian, i'm aware of
it as a separate distro )
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299[02:18:37] <Iridos> dpkg.log should be complete… the
other ones probably depend on the frontend
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301[02:19:38] <Iridos> it does have every step dpkg takes,
though, which makes it a bit verbose
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302[02:19:47] <Iridos> time to sleep. gn.
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310[02:21:53] <Iridos> so probably grep upgrade
/var/log/dpkg.log or so
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311[02:21:54] <Iridos> nn
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313[02:22:49] <Loeb> I think it might just be fonts-open-sans.
Removing that makes things look more like they were... but the
hinting is different.
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314[02:22:54] <Loeb> I'll leave it like this for now.
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325[02:33:21] <Maido-Chan> how does one create custom persistant
directory variables like $HOME?
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328[02:34:58] <phogg> Maido-Chan: persistent in what sense?
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329[02:35:03] <Sveta> they're environment variables,
whether they contain a file path or not is kind of arbitrary
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330[02:35:34] <Maido-Chan> they stay after reboots and such.
have to be manually removed.
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331[02:35:36] <phogg> Maido-Chan: the HOME variable is no more
persistent than any other variable, it's just that the shell
sets it for you automatically.
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333[02:36:16] <phogg> Maido-Chan: you can overwrite the value,
unset it, etc.. Not recommended. If you want to define a variable
that will re-appear each time you log in place it in a shell startup
file
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334[02:36:55] <phogg> Maido-Chan: if your shell is bash you
should read the INVOCATION section of the bash man page which will
explain what files bash will read, in what order and when. Briefly:
~/.bash_profile is probably what you want.
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336[02:37:24] <Maido-Chan> thinking on it. is it stupid and if
not possible to remap my drives to something easier to navigate say
/drives/mame/ /drives/games/ etc?
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337[02:38:37] <phogg> Maido-Chan: you can mount storage devices
anywhere you like. That said you cannot *move system files* just
anywhere
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338[02:38:46] <phogg> or rather not without making what is
essentially a new custom distribution
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340[02:39:28] <phogg> Maido-Chan: you can place your own files
(documents) pretty much anywhere, but if you move files in /usr or
/var somewhere else then programs expecting to find them may be
unable to, the package manager will hate you and things will
probably break.
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344[02:41:09] <Maido-Chan> I'm not looking at moving any
system assosiated volumes fortunatly. just my multimedia that
i'm getting sick of navigating to over and over again via
/media/[user]/[obscure numeric id]/
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347[02:41:56] <phogg> Maido-Chan: I don't know who exactly
mounts things in /media; I don't. I also set things up in a
much more manual way than most people like.
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349[02:42:13] <Maido-Chan> that's where debian put my
drives when i installed it.
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350[02:42:19] <phogg> Maido-Chan: if you want an easier path you
can also make symlinks
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352[02:42:36] <phogg> Maido-Chan: removable drives? Like
external ones or flash drives?
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353[02:42:44] <Maido-Chan> no my internal drives
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354[02:42:51] <phogg> Maido-Chan: what odd practice
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355[02:43:04] <Maido-Chan> like i said it's apparently
debian defult.
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357[02:43:16] <phogg> I don't exactly follow along with
defaults so it well could be.
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359[02:43:52] <phogg> Maido-Chan: in all probability you can
umount those mount points, modify fstab to your taste and remount in
whatever new locations you choose
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360[02:44:18] <phogg> Maido-Chan: or just make symlinks in new
locations and pretend those are the real directories. That's
less difficult and the effect is nearly the same.
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361[02:44:18] <Maido-Chan> ok so symlinks. i'm guessing
marginal usage of my drives to store the link data, the data will
appear 2 times on my system tree and i can mess things to heck if i
put the simlink inside the thing it links to?
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362[02:44:34] <phogg> Maido-Chan: No. Are you unfamiliar with
symlinks?
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363[02:44:43] <Maido-Chan> that's a yes. :P
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364[02:44:51] <Maido-Chan> what part are you saying no to?
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365[02:45:23] <phogg> Maido-Chan: say you want /drives/games to
be a thing. First mkdir /drives and then ln -s
/media/$user/$obscure_id /drives/games
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367[02:45:51] <phogg> Maido-Chan: Now you can go to either place
and see the same files; you are in both cases looking in the /media
location but it just does not look like it
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368[02:46:20] <Maido-Chan> so thats a yes to #2 then. :P
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369[02:46:20] <phogg> Maido-Chan: if you ever create a loop this
way by mistake attempting to follow the symlink will cause a
harmless error and you can just remove the bad file.
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370[02:46:41] <Maido-Chan> and a no to #3.
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371[02:47:12] <Maido-Chan> since it's just telling the
system "hey this thing is supposed to be here too" that #1
is a yes i'd guess.
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372[02:47:12] <phogg> In terms of size: symlinks take as much
space as the path to the file to which they point
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373[02:47:35] <Maido-Chan> is there any limit to path lengths
like there is in dos?
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374[02:47:38] <phogg> so pointing to /drives/games/ would
require 14 bytes
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375[02:47:47] <phogg> Maido-Chan: Not one you are likely to hit
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377[02:48:54] <Maido-Chan> i dunno. i do have a nasty habit of
ending up with file paths like ./new folder/new folder/new folder/
when i'm feeling lazy about sorting my stuff...a habit i really
should stop.
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379[02:49:11] <phogg> Maido-Chan: there is a limit to the length
of each path component.
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382[02:49:40] <phogg> I believe it's dependent on the
filesystem... 255 bytes? SOmething like that.
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383[02:50:02] <dogman> My instinct for organization in my
physical world is poor, but my instinct for organization in my
virtual worlds are really strong.
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385[02:50:33] <Maido-Chan> so ln is link. -s is sym(i assume
short for symbolic?) then real path then id which i guess says the
next thing will be the sympath?
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387[02:50:51] <dogman> tl;dr I am surrounded by trash, but my
computer's files are very well organized.
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388[02:51:09] <Maido-Chan> dogman. i'm the opposite.
i'm obsessive irl but messy digitally.
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389[02:51:39] <phogg> Maido-Chan: yes, -s means symbolic and ln
means link. man ln for details.
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391[02:52:17] <phogg> dogman: I like to keep just enough clutter
around for a lived-in look without it becoming squalor. It's a
fine line. Digitally I stay religiously organized.
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392[02:52:33] <Maido-Chan> so unlike mount i don't need to
create a folder of the 'mount point'?
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394[02:52:56] <phogg> Maido-Chan: you only need to create the
base directory; ln itself creates the file (which if it points to a
directory acts like a directory)
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397[02:54:25] <phogg> mkdir -p -- /tmp/test-dir /tmp/test-dir2 ;
touch /tmp/test-dir/a ; ln -s /tmp/test-dir /tmp/test-dir2/link ; ls
-l /tmp/test-dir2/link # you will see a
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399[02:55:03] <Maido-Chan> welp getting d/ced sucks
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400[02:55:30] <Sveta> <phogg> Maido-Chan: you only need to
create the base directory; ln itself creates the file (which if it
points to a directory acts like a directory)
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401[02:55:32] <Sveta> <phogg> mkdir -p -- /tmp/test-dir
/tmp/test-dir2 ; touch /tmp/test-dir/a ; ln -s /tmp/test-dir
/tmp/test-dir2/link ; ls -l /tmp/test-dir2/link # you will see a
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402[02:55:36] <Sveta> that's what you missed
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409[02:57:18] <phogg> actually my example was wrong because of a
missing trailing slash after the last link. You will see the symlink
path, you need link/ to see the file a.
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421[03:08:58] <AlexLikeRock_> ineed activate hibernate and
suspend by /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d
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422[03:09:04] <AlexLikeRock_> how to do ?
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463[03:33:00] <dTal> AlexLikeRock_ What I did was put the
following in a file:
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464[03:33:03] <dTal> #include <stdio.h> #include
<stdlib.h> int main() { FILE *f; f = fopen(/sys/power/state,
a); fprintf(f, disk\n); fclose(f); return(0); }
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465[03:33:11] <dTal> and made it SUID
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466[03:34:13] <dTal> (well, I compiled it first. And chowned the
binary to root. And there were some quotes that got stripped there
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484[03:42:39] <drx3> Hello, i would like to create a debian
stretch stable docker image in a similar way that i do for centos 7.
I am not familiar much with debian. I am currently running centos 7,
i have a folder called ~/docker/ where i have 2 folders inside it
named, centos7 and debian. The folder centos7 has all the usual
folders we find in a linux system, bin, boot, etc, home... , from
the centos7 folder i can create a docker imag
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485[03:42:40] <drx3> e by running the command; tar -C ${centos}
-c . | docker import - centos:7 ... i want to do the same with
debian, how can i pull all the folders debian will use for the
docker image ?
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498[03:49:02] <drx3> IRC is dead, no support whatsoever on any
of the channels. All robots nowadays.
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500[03:50:01] <eck> true
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503[03:50:51] * simonlnu has no docker experience
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505[03:51:09] <dogman> IRC is new technology
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506[03:51:20] <dogman> I see it growing and being popular in the
next few years.
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507[03:51:59] <eck> what we really need is a way to put irc on
the blockchain, then it will really take off
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508[03:52:21] <LtL> dogman: IRC is older than
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509[03:52:33] <drx3> true
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514[03:54:40] <dogman> LtL Yeah I was joking.
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515[03:55:19] <drx3> I guess nobody has worked on docker images
before or nobody cares about my problem lol.
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516[03:55:43] <gftg> drx3: I know very very little about docker,
but won't debootstrap do what you want (i.e.: put the debian
files in a directory so you can use your commands to create the
docker image)?
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518[03:56:50] <gftg> drx3: iirc, docker doesn't need a
kernel, so you don't even need to take the extra step of
installing the kernel (which is typically done in an installation
with debootstrap)
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519[03:57:28] <drx3> i am reading:
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521[03:57:49] <drx3> but i read: Using mkimage-debootstrap.sh
(now flagged as deprecated by upstream)
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525[03:59:08] <drx3> I was hoping someone had more experience
and a howto to get me started.
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526[03:59:36] <gftg> drx3: I was not aware of
mkimage-debootstrap.sh.
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534[04:00:26] <drx3> the Manual method suggest
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538[04:00:41] <drx3> i guess i am on the right direction : )
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540[04:00:52] <gftg> drx3: I would say so, too.
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541[04:01:08] <drx3> thanks
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544[04:01:28] <DJDan> how do I get Debian working in Vbox with
both the main OSX Laptop and the Network/Internet using a Static IP?
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600[04:07:24] <annadane> drx3, please have some patience with
regard to irc
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601[04:07:32] <annadane> if people don't answer it's
because they don't know
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605[04:09:27] <drx3> I know, it just seems like, and i might be
wrong, it seems like on a channel with over 1600 users/bots, it
should of been more 'alive' chats... but seriously, IRC is
not the same anymore.
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609[04:10:11] <drx3> annadane, thanks.
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613[04:12:09] <borkd> irc was always like this..
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614[04:12:28] <drx3> not true
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615[04:12:44] <borkd> lots of people idling, i mean
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616[04:12:46] <drx3> more busy
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617[04:12:58] <drx3> ok, but more talk/chats going on.
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618[04:13:02] <drx3> more active i mean
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619[04:13:09] <bazhang> depends
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620[04:13:40] <drx3> of ? time of day ? yes maybe.
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621[04:13:41] <bazhang> this is a support channel, it veries
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623[04:13:52] <drx3> Yes
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624[04:13:56] <bazhang> #debian-offtopic is the chatter one
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625[04:14:04] <drx3> True
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629[04:15:59] <drx3> Have a good night.
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649[04:24:04] <indsupport> can anyone help me
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650[04:24:15] <indsupport> can anyone help me
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651[04:24:29] <indsupport> can anyone help me
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654[04:25:45] <indsupport> can anyone help me
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657[04:26:06] <indsupport> can anyone help me
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658[04:26:06] <bazhang> indsupport, ask
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659[04:26:36] <indsupport> how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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661[04:27:38] <indsupport> how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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662[04:27:57] <bazhang> patience indsupport
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663[04:28:00] <indsupport> how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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664[04:28:08] <indsupport> sorru
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665[04:28:12] <indsupport> *sorry
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666[04:28:13] <bazhang> when someone has an answer they will
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672[04:33:32] <indsupport> *sorry
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673[04:33:41] <indsupport> so how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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675[04:35:25] <indsupport> so how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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678[04:35:53] <indsupport> so how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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680[04:36:11] <Epakai> use your backup, now go away. nobody
wants to help an asshole.
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681[04:36:16] <indsupport> so how to I repair a damaged Luks
encrypted LVM partition?
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682[04:36:25] <indsupport> there is no backup buddy
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683[04:36:28] <th0r> indsupport, here is a place to start
replaced-url
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684[04:36:33] <indsupport> no go away Epakai
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685[04:36:42] <indsupport> ty th0r
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687[04:37:14] <indsupport> th0r is a perfect example of how to
help a fellow debian user
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688[04:37:18] <indsupport> unlike Epakai
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689[04:37:32] <indsupport> Who is a really good antithesis to
the thesis
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691[04:37:39] <Epakai> fuck off mate. i'm not here to deal
with your bullshit or take shit from you who spams the channel for
no good reason
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692[04:37:43] <indsupport> wow
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693[04:37:53] <indsupport> Thanks a lot Epakai
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694[04:37:58] <Epakai> any time
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695[04:38:05] <indsupport> Now you proved my point
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696[04:38:06] <th0r> indsupport, so long as you feed the troll
he won't leave
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697[04:38:13] <indsupport> ok
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698[04:38:49] <esainane> I would appreciate it if I didn't
see the same question twenty times over when I have the time to look
at the channel again
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702[04:40:13] <indsupport> esainane: The Argument is over
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704[04:40:23] <indsupport> Were all at peace now
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705[04:40:31] <indsupport> ok esainane
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706[04:40:34] <indsupport> ?
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707[04:41:09] <esainane> Certainly, that's just something
for everyone to keep in mind for the future
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709[04:41:53] <Epakai> no, what you did was extremely rude.
rather lazy. you could have made some effort in trying to solve the
issue yourself before begging for what was a google search away.
Next time take a moment and help yourself before a bit before
begging.
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714[04:42:46] <indsupport> Epakai: I did google search and
attempted to fix my problem
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715[04:43:24] <indsupport> When that failed i went towards more
experienced users
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718[04:43:54] <preaction> and threw a tantrum until one helped
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720[04:44:42] <indsupport> a tantrum?
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721[04:45:07] <indsupport> thats a obvious exageration my friend
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765[05:15:59] <AlexPortable> /bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin ?
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768[05:16:22] <preaction> the latter will, iirc, tell the person
trying to log in that they can't
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769[05:16:33] <AlexPortable> whats better security wise?
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771[05:18:26] <AlexPortable> and how would i disable users from
logging in directly, but still allow su - username ?
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772[05:18:54] <preaction> logging in directly from a tty or ssh?
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773[05:19:26] <AlexPortable> both
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774[05:20:52] <preaction> looks like neither
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775[05:21:02] <preaction> neither will allow su - <user>
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779[05:22:15] <AlexPortable> and how to disable direct login?
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780[05:22:38] <AlexPortable> it should be possible to disable
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782[05:23:59] <preaction> both disable direct login. neither
allow su -. you can do "su -ls /bin/bash <user>"
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783[05:24:22] <edin00n> Hi! i have this problem incorrect
password when trying to unlock screen
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784[05:24:45] <preaction> or "su -lp <user>"
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785[05:25:11] <edin00n> • /msg nickserv identify Eddin01
whoami100%
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786[05:25:18] <edin00n> hello
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787[05:25:55] <AlexPortable> -lp -ls ?
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788[05:26:21] <preaction> yes
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790[05:26:41] <edin00n> Hi! i have this problem incorrect
password when trying to unlock screen
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828[05:54:34] <geejay> is there anybody running Q4 OS debian out
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838[05:59:12] <Me__> is there an easy way to turn my debian
server on aws into a vpn gatwqay?
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851[06:13:14] <annadane> geejay,
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852[06:13:16] <annadane> !anyone
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853[06:13:17] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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855[06:14:00] <annadane> additionally, i'm not even sure
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858[06:14:40] <annadane> ah, well, no, it's not supported
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859[06:14:44] <annadane> !based on debian
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860[06:14:44] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
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917[07:14:57] <jonathan_x> ,v dokuwiki
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918[07:14:58] <judd> Package: dokuwiki on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.0.20120125b-2+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 0.0.20120125b-2+deb7u1;
jessie: 0.0.20140505.a+dfsg-4; buster: 0.0.20160626.a-2; sid:
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982[08:05:30] <aname> Do HP laptops run good on Linux?
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1021[08:27:17] <k0ala> Hello, I've got an issue on Debian 9.
The issue is that Debian 9 won't load my wireless drivers
anymore(Debian 7 and 8 did fine). Can somebody please help?
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1025[08:30:03] <towo^work> missing firmware propably?
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1043[08:42:28] <k0ala> Yeah. Do you know how I should fix it?
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1064[08:54:58] <towo^work> k0ala, install the missing firmware?
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1067[08:56:33] <Zambezi> I'm about to make a fresh install
of Stretch to a new Samsung 850 Pro. My concern is EXT4. Don't
want to corrupt the harddrive in an instance. The tutorials is abit
outdated. I'm think server install, then Notion and the
dependencies. Good to go?
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1071[08:57:34] <towo^work> i don't see the problem at the
moment
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1107[09:11:52] <rubas> Hi all :)
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1120[09:22:01] <k0ala> towo^work: Yeah, that's my question.
How should I do that?
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1134[09:27:01] <hexhaxtron> I'm trying to run SSH and
Apache2 on the same port 443. It seems to work with SSH but when I
try to open the site I get: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.4p1 Debian-10+deb9u1
Protocol mismatch.
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1135[09:27:05] <hexhaxtron> Any help?
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1137[09:27:39] <hexhaxtron> I forgot to mention I'm using
sslh
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1141[09:28:49] <marcelo> hi
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1160[09:39:00] <towo^work> k0ala, since no one knows your
hardware, who should know?
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1183[09:49:31] <fed6> Is anyone aware of how to use carpalx in
Debian?
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1186[09:51:11] <k0ala> Epakai: thanks!
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1197[09:56:23] <royiv_>
replaced-url
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1198[09:56:25] <judd> Bug
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1200[09:57:16] <royiv_> This bug is annoying as hell. update-grub
generates a broken grub.cfg; grub drops you into a grub> prompt.
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1206[09:57:59] <royiv_> Jessie, AFAICT, is responsible; it
*appears* to have upgraded the grub2 scripts, but neglected to
actually upgrade grub itself.
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1212[09:58:41] <royiv_> (AFAICT, this bug is *still* present,
just most people will never run into it, as long as their GRUB is
recent.)
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1215[09:59:11] <royiv_> Now I've just got to figure out how
to get GRUB to regenerate its image, when it is installed as a
chainload.
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1237[10:09:38] <vahe> I'm now in a difficult situation, I
created a live CD (usb 4GB) when enabled, writes , The selected boot
device failed. Press <Enter> to continue. , how to create
image on dd?
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1241[10:10:59] <GNU\colossus> vahe, how exactly did you create
the USB medium?
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1244[10:11:16] <GNU\colossus> (you can dump the cd image to the
thumb drive 1:1 these days, and it should just work)
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1247[10:11:25] <vahe> GNU\colossus: yes
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1250[10:12:02] <vahe> GNU\colossus: dd if=iso of=/dev/sdX
&& sync
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1251[10:12:16] <GNU\colossus> hm. that should have worked.
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1252[10:12:29] <vahe> I even tried using other
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1255[10:12:39] <GNU\colossus> maybe the thumb drive is bad
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1257[10:12:54] <vahe> GNU\colossus I think the problem is in the
BIOS
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1258[10:12:54] <GNU\colossus> if you re-plug it, what does the
kernel ringbuffer (dmesg) have to say?
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1259[10:13:02] <GNU\colossus> that's also possible
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1260[10:14:16] <vahe> GNU\colossus: I have 3-4 days can't
run
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1262[10:14:37] <vahe> GNU\colossus: BIOS roughly looks like this
replaced-url
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1264[10:15:23] <GNU\colossus> have you tried letting the machine
start in EFI mode?
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1267[10:15:37] <GNU\colossus> (Debian does support that)
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1268[10:15:53] <vahe> GNU\colossus: no
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1269[10:16:09] <GNU\colossus> you might wanna give it a try
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1270[10:16:16] <vahe> but why it suddenly not work ?
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1271[10:16:16] <GNU\colossus> can't be worse than the status
quo :)
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1273[10:16:32] <vahe> GNU\colossus: haha, ok
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1274[10:16:44] <vahe> now I'll try
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1277[10:18:34] <petn-randall> !tell Quik_USER about away
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1280[10:22:20] <dionysus69> hey everyone
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1281[10:22:26] <dionysus69> I have this in crontab
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1282[10:22:44] <dionysus69> * * * * * /bin/bash -l -c 'cd
/home/user/project && bundle exec rake task --silent'
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1283[10:23:01] <dionysus69> when I execute the command in
terminal it works, but it doesnt really work every minute as it
should
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1287[10:23:31] <dionysus69> I also checked the syslog and crontab
is actually calling this command but something is not right, not
really seeing results
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1304[10:30:11] <petn-randall> dionysus69: $PATH is not set in
cron, so it won't find the command "bundle".
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1328[10:40:43] <dionysus69> ohh
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1330[10:41:29] <dionysus69> petn-randall: I have same command on
production server and it works though
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1331[10:41:32] <petn-randall> dionysus69: That's a general
pitfall in cron. All other env variables are not set either, but
with PATH you notice the most.
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1333[10:41:40] <dionysus69> instead of bundle I can put
/home/user/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.4.1/bin/bundle
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1337[10:41:52] <petn-randall> dionysus69: Maybe you manually set
PATH in one of cron's config files?
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1338[10:42:06] <dionysus69> where are cron's confid files?
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1340[10:42:26] <dionysus69> I didnt set anything someone else had
to do, first time using cron so I dont know most things about it
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1344[10:46:04] <petn-randall> dionysus69: You can simply set
"PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:" in /etc/crontab, and it would use
that. But that's more of a hack and I wouldn't depend on
it.
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1346[10:47:29] <dionysus69> ok thanks petn-randall, I will try
use full path at this point and try investigate how the production
version was working
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1358[10:54:42] <petn-randall> dionysus69: You're welcome.
Glad I could help.
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1376[11:07:07] <Zambezi> Which filesystem do you use for SSD?
Bought Samsung 850 Pro to replace my 80 GB HDD. Going to install
Stretch but getting mixed answers about TRIM (periodic, continous).
What's your experience?
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1378[11:07:34] <GNU\colossus> "depends on your
workload™"
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1380[11:07:40] <GNU\colossus> on a desktop, it really hardly
matters
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1385[11:12:31] <petn-randall> Zambezi: I'd use a default
ext4, and set trim in the mount options. That works for me.
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1387[11:13:10] <Zambezi> petn-randall: Continious or periodic?
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1388[11:13:46] <petn-randall> Zambezi: Setting the
"trim" mount option would trim blocks when they are freed,
so I guess that makes it continuous.
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1390[11:14:26] <rudi_s> trim as mount option can be slow as it
forces a trim on every write/sync.
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1393[11:14:41] <rudi_s> *on every write/sync which deletes data
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1396[11:15:38] <petn-randall> rudi_s: It trims on deleted blocks,
not on written blocks.
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1400[11:16:09] <Zambezi> rudi_s: So TRIM will be more aggressive?
I would like a long lasting SSD. It's for general use. Probably
going to copy contents from SD-cards (DSLR-picutre, actioncam
movies).
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1402[11:17:06] <rudi_s> From what I know it doesn't really
matter on modern SSDs. Personally I run a fstrim -av from time to
time and no mount options.
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1403[11:17:09] <Zambezi> petn-randall: You probably see my
problem with mixed answers. Some says TRIM it's good, some
it's bad.
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1406[11:18:20] <petn-randall> Zambezi: I think you're
overanalyzing this. Both ways work fine, both options are hardly
distinguishable in every day use, and even if you use your desktop 8
hours a day you'll not come close to the TBW limit of the SSD
in this decade.
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1409[11:18:56] <dionysus69> petn-randall: including full path of
bundle didnt help either :\
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1412[11:20:44] <Zambezi> petn-randall: Thanks for clearing that
out. The SSD is manufactured in July so no need to flash the
firmware. Really need to start over with a fresh install. Hopefully
I remember everything I need.
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1422[11:29:56] <Zambezi> petn-randall: Let's say logs in
Irssi. That's writing logs all the time. Better to save the
logs on a mechanical harddrive?
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1429[11:31:15] <petn-randall> Zambezi: I wouldn't. If you
have a rotating HDD, I'd only put things there that don't
fit on the SSD.
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1431[11:31:29] <rudi_s> Zambezi: That's just a few kilobytes
and doesn't matter. More problematic are browsers which in some
cases can write several gigabytes in a few hours.
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1433[11:31:36] <dogman> Use Tape
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1434[11:31:52] <rudi_s> (Not sure if that was fixed in
chromium/firefox, the report is a year or so old.)
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1437[11:32:50] <petn-randall> Zambezi: To put it into
perspective: I've been using this current SSD for over a year
now nearly every day. I haven't even hit 1% of the TBW limit
yet. If you extrapolate that, my SSD will last ~100 years with that
usage pattern. Longer than I'd ever use it.
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1440[11:33:37] <glitch> petn-randall this is user. I fixed the
network issue
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1441[11:33:38] <petn-randall> Zambezi: Long story short: Unless
you're running a busy server, don't worry about the SSD
lifespan.
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1442[11:34:41] <petn-randall> glitch: Wonderful! But can we
continue that on the other #debian channel on oftc? It's less
confusing that way.
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1443[11:35:30] <glitch> how do i go to that channel?
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1448[11:36:58] <at0m> !oftc
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1449[11:36:59] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology
Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC
network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network.
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1451[11:37:47] <petn-randall> glitch: "/connect
irc.oftc.net", then "/join #debian". Just like you
did with your other IRC client.
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1466[11:45:30] <aZz7eCh> hi guys. debian jessie, gnome 3. if i
double click an .exe in nautilus, it seems to automatically launch
with wine or play on linux (presuming just wine). I'm trying to
make a .desktop file to launch the .exe but it doesn't seem to
automatically launch it with wine .. just returns an error. any
pointers on how my Exec= line should read ?
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1470[11:46:19] <XeonSquared> Exec=wine filename.exe
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1471[11:46:21] <XeonSquared> at a guess
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1475[11:48:01] <vahe> GNU\colossus: uefi also not working
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1498[12:04:40] <glitch> Please help, I'm trying to install
some required yum packages with yum #install wget
system-config-firewall-tui openssh-clients
kernel-devel-2.6.32-358.el6.i686 libcurl-devel ncurses-devel
compat-libstdc++-33 screen xterm
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1499[12:04:40] <glitch> yum groupinstall "X Window
System" "Development tools" and I get the following
error #There are no enabled repos.
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1500[12:04:40] <glitch> Run "yum repolist all" to see
the repos you have.
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1501[12:04:40] <glitch> You can enable repos with
yum-config-manager --enable <repo>
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1502[12:04:41] <glitch> then when I look for the repo I have 0
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1504[12:04:45] <magaltavor> Hello guys i am trying to make apache
generate dump and it looks like it is impossible to me or i missing
some security config on the system can anybody help in this matters
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1525[12:20:07] <ZSky> When I do:
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1526[12:20:08] <ZSky> grep -E $1
/var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log{.1,}
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1527[12:20:16] <ZSky> it always writes at the beginning of each
line found:
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1528[12:20:23] <ZSky> other_vhosts_access.log: ...
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1529[12:20:26] <ZSky> other_vhosts_access.log: ...
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1531[12:20:59] <ZSky> i.e. the name of the file, and this takes
space on screen
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1533[12:21:11] <ZSky> can I remove the fact that grep displays
the name of the file in which it's found when doing
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1534[12:21:16] <pja> man grep: -h, --no-filename Suppress the
prefixing of file names on output.
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1535[12:21:38] <pja> manpages are wonderful things, use them :)
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1536[12:21:51] <ZSky> true :)
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1538[12:22:21] <ZSky> Is it a good practice to do grep -Eh then?
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1539[12:22:24] <ZSky> to have -E -h ?
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1540[12:22:58] <pja> Depends. grep will print the filename as a
prefix to matches if you give it more than one filename to search.
It prints nothing if you only give it one filename (by default)
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1541[12:23:20] <pja> If you’re going to parse the output
& this is in a script, then it’s probably a good idea to
nail down one format or the other.
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1542[12:23:39] <pja> If you’re at the command line, then
the default behaviour is usually what you want...
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1543[12:23:42] <ZSky> I mean is "-E -h" equivalent to
"-Eh"
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1544[12:24:04] <ZSky> ?
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1545[12:24:31] <pja> Try it? Usually you can do that with GNU
utilities.
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1547[12:25:13] <aZz7eCh> XeonSquared, yes i figured something
simple like that would work but it just isnt. if i cli $ wine
"/path/to/program.exe", it launches. yet if i try and tell
the .desktop file to do the same .... nope. and yes, my .desktop
file is executable
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1549[12:25:25] <ZSky> it works, but not sure it's strictly
equivalent
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1550[12:25:30] <ZSky> it seems so
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1551[12:25:42] <XeonSquared> huh
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1552[12:25:47] <ZSky> Also I have created a script named
"greplog" containg: "grep -Eh $1
/var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log{.1,}"
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1553[12:25:52] <Arahael> aZz7eCh: Your environment, including the
$PATH, may well differ.
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1555[12:26:08] <XeonSquared> full path to WINE?
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1556[12:26:11] <ZSky> so I can do: "greplog hello" and
it will automatically display the grep hello of the logs
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1557[12:26:15] <ZSky> but.... no colors anymore
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1558[12:26:30] <ZSky> how to keep the colors normally rendered by
grep when calling my script greplog?
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1563[12:27:14] <Arahael> ZSky: "man grep", and search
for 'colour'.
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1564[12:27:29] <Arahael> ZSky: (Actually, search for
"color", it's usually best to use the american
spelling)
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1567[12:28:31] <ZSky> Thanks!
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1574[12:29:53] <Arahael> ZSky: Generally the man and info pages
are remarkably good. (Shame the UI for those suck)
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1578[12:33:17] <ZSky> Arahael it's because of the UI that I
never use it, true ;)
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1579[12:33:27] <ZSky> I have to think about it 5 seconds before
being able to quit
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1582[12:34:04] <ZSky> Maybe debian/ubuntu would be good to quit
vi to put nano by default for man?
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1583[12:34:11] <ZSky> (i know vim is excellent for power users)
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1584[12:34:19] <ZSky> (but for average users... it really is
annoying)
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1619[12:48:08] <JohnA> Is there somewhere I can find
recommendations as to partition sizes? space avail 5*2tb, system efi
based?
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1621[12:48:55] <JohnA> probably go with buster, and its for a
cloud server
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1630[12:54:02] <aZz7eCh> XeonSquared, Arahael thanks for the
inputs. It turns out ... the problem was me trying to use ~/ instead
of /home/user/. works fine from command line, but .desktop file
wants the absolute path
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1687[13:19:09] <ZSky> Can a website be dispatched to many
different IP?
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1688[13:19:26] <ZSky> Example: how to make that example.com can
be served by thousands different IP?
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1689[13:19:32] <ZSky> (decentralized web) ?
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1690[13:20:38] <JustASlacker> ZSky:
replaced-url
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1691[13:21:26] <gpunk> ZSky: or.. LVS
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1692[13:21:44] <ZSky> JustASlacker: but finally isn't there
one single IP that will choose which of the CDN node
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1693[13:21:53] <ZSky> will be used to serve you?
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1695[13:22:17] <ZSky> ie the front proxy (or don't know the
name) isn't centralized itself?
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1697[13:22:23] <JustASlacker> well, yeah
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1698[13:22:27] <JustASlacker>
replaced-url
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1699[13:22:40] <JustASlacker> you can route to the closest
provider
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1700[13:23:01] <uptime> ZSky:
replaced-url
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1702[13:23:34] <ZSky> JustASlacker: does this work nowadays?
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1703[13:23:47] <JustASlacker> does what work?
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1704[13:23:51] <ZSky> i.e. if I have just a domain name bought by
a registrar
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1705[13:24:09] <ZSky> example.com
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1706[13:24:17] <ZSky> Let's say for the sake of example that
I have 1000 friends who accept to serve my website example.com
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1708[13:24:28] <ZSky> how to configure things to route the
requests to one of them?
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1709[13:24:48] <ZSky> doesn't this require a single
(centralized) server to do the dispatching to one of the 1000 IP ?
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1713[13:26:35] <FinalX> that really has nothing to do with debian
or the purpose of this channel, though.. and you can't easily
do that as each connection has their own network and can probably
not be sharing Anycast. you'd have to use something like an
authoritive DNS server that gives a different A-record based on the
source of the request, for example. and make sure you sync all
servers properly.
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1715[13:27:31] <JustASlacker> easy, give some money to cloudflare
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1717[13:28:26] <JustASlacker>
replaced-url
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1718[13:28:46] <JustASlacker> Set up a domain in less than 5
minutes. Keep your hosting provider. No code changes required
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1719[13:29:03] <JustASlacker> they have a free plan for 0$
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1739[13:39:45] <ZSky> JustASlacker: but at the end, when you set
an A-record (DNS) for example.com
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1740[13:39:51] <ZSky> you finally enter 1 single IP
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1742[13:40:14] <ZSky> does this mean that by CloudFlare, there is
1 server that will handle the dispatching for one node of the CDN?
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1743[13:40:38] <JustASlacker> first of all, you dont need to
enter just one ip
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1745[13:41:46] <JustASlacker> second, you can have different
route to those targets
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1747[13:42:02] <DJDan> how do i fix checking for pcap_open_live
in -lpcap... no ; error: pcap library not found! error when
compiling?
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1749[13:42:23] <bhaisaab> Hello, I need help in building a source
tarball into a .deb file. How can I do this for this:
replaced-url
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1751[13:42:43] <ZSky> JustASlacker: yes you can enter a few IP,
but not 1000 for example
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1753[13:42:48] <bhaisaab> I want to build dnsmasq 2.6 (for
wheezy) applying the recent google CVE fixes, can someone help?
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1754[13:42:56] <ZSky> (let's say I want to reinvent the
wheel and avoid cloudflare)
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1755[13:43:04] <ZSky> (just to understand how things work inside)
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1756[13:43:08] <JustASlacker> ZSky: start with
replaced-url
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1758[13:45:11] <ZSky> Thanks
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1776[13:57:12] <DJDan> getting there... i think the path and
toolchain is correct.... just having trouble with configuring...
replaced-url
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1786[14:00:10] <tdn> Are there any options for running GFS2 with
Debian Stretch?
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1796[14:04:12] <DJDan> how do i fix checking for pcap_open_live
in -lpcap... no ; error: pcap library not found! error when
compiling
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1798[14:05:08] <jelly-home> DJDan: install a package that
provides libpcap-dev
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1800[14:05:50] <jelly-home> DJDan: you need -dev packages to
build software from source
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1804[14:07:59] <DJDan> jelly-home: libpcap-dev is already the
newest version (1.8.1-3).
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1805[14:08:29] <jelly-home> ,v libpcap-dev
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1806[14:08:30] <judd> Package: libpcap-dev on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.3.0-1; jessie: 1.6.2-2; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 1.7.4-1~bpo70+1;
jessie-backports: 1.8.1-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.8.1-3; buster: 1.8.1-4;
sid: 1.8.1-5
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1808[14:09:02] <DJDan> jelly-home: i already have it installed.
how do i fix the error
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1810[14:10:00] <jelly-home> DJDan: you probably need to instruct
the build process where exactly to find the library. Pastebin the
complete command you ran and full ouptut
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1811[14:10:03] <jelly-home> !paste
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1812[14:10:03] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
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1813[14:10:25] <DJDan> jelly-home:
replaced-url
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1814[14:10:28] <jelly-home> DJDan: what are you trying to build?
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1818[14:11:18] <jelly-home> DJDan: looks like you're cross
compiling.
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1819[14:11:36] <jelly-home> you will need builds of pcap for the
target arch, then
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1820[14:11:39] <jelly-home> I guess
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1821[14:11:44] <DJDan> yes reaver-wps-fork-t6x-master ... as per
link.. im using LEDE SDK to cross compile from debian to mipsel
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1822[14:11:58] <DJDan> how do i do that
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1823[14:12:00] <jelly-home> then ask the LEDE SDK people how
it's done
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1825[14:13:07] <jelly-home> DJDan: you will probably have to
first cross-compile pcap for your target, and all the other missing
build deps, then build this thing. No idea about details.
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1828[14:13:48] <DJDan> oh
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1829[14:14:49] <DJDan> jelly-home: yeh just slowly getting
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1837[14:18:24] <DJDan> jelly-home: do i need to put the source of
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1842[14:24:07] <jelly> DJDan: I have no idea how your
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1844[14:24:25] <jelly> ask the lede people?
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1857[14:29:56] <Psy-Q> is anyone perhaps working on a repo for
the latest Mesa on debian stable?
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1863[14:32:18] <towo^work> Psy-Q, afaik impossible because of the
rdepsnds of mesa
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1864[14:32:38] <towo^work> *rdepends
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1867[14:33:32] <saulll> Hi, I have a multiboot with deb8 and
deb9, each OS having its own /, its own /boot and both sharing the
same /home partition. How can I make grub understand that I have 2
kernels on 2 different partitions?
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1868[14:34:13] <Psy-Q> towo^work: ah, i see. thanks!
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1869[14:34:47] <Psy-Q> i'm always considering going to an
AMD graphics card but the lack of easy mesa you don't have to
build yourself is holding me back
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1870[14:35:13] <towo^work> Psy-Q, why not using sid?
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1885[14:42:55] <magaltavor> @help
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1887[14:43:49] <Psy-Q> towo^work: i could dual boot that maybe,
yes. i want my main machine to be reliable so that's why
i'm on stable usually
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1888[14:43:55] <n4dir> Psy-Q: there was the Mepis community
repos, i think the distro is now a community project, called MX (?).
Might be some of them works on it.
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1889[14:44:02] <awal1> magaltavor, call bombers if about fire
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1890[14:44:35] <n4dir> at the Mepis forum there also was a
sub-forum where you could ask for a certain package to be packaged.
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1894[14:46:38] <Psy-Q> thanks. it seems MX is still based on
jessie
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1896[14:46:50] <Psy-Q> i'll see if they have something going
on for stretch
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1897[14:47:04] <Psy-Q> but if it's dual-booting it could
also be ubuntu, i think there's a repo there for newest mesa
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1907[14:52:25] <saulll> how can I have dual booting with linux
distros in such a way that one os does not delete the older kernel
of the other distribution and still grub being able to detect both
OS?
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1911[14:53:52] <petn-randall> saulll: You should only have grub
installed in one of them, or they'll keep overwriting each
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1916[14:55:18] <jelly> petn-randall: things are cleaner with
uefi, where one can pick which grub to boot from uefi boot menu
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1917[14:55:39] <dgp> Can't you have grub in the MBR (or
similar) and then use that to chainload grub for a distro in a
partition from that partition?
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1918[14:55:59] <saulll> petn-randall: its not grub itself that is
making trouble, its more that grub-install from deb9 does not find
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1919[14:56:18] <saulll> and such the kernel gets removed
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1922[14:57:07] <dgp> the grub tools in one install would have to
mount the other to work out what kernels are available so I
don't think that's going to just work
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1924[14:57:32] <jelly> dgp: os-prober component makes that
usually Just Work™
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1926[14:58:14] <saulll> In my deb9 sys I have created /debian8
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1928[14:58:37] <jelly> saulll: avoid having it mounted when
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1929[14:58:41] <saulll> maybe the issue is that grub-probe
reports "unknown filesystem"`?
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1930[14:59:14] <saulll> jelly: I have tried with mounted and
without mounted other-boot-partition
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1931[14:59:26] <jelly> leave it _not_ mounted, just run
update-grub on the OS install that has latest grub, make sure
os-prober is installed
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1932[14:59:28] <n4dir> what is the filesystem?
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1933[15:00:41] <saulll> ext4
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1939[15:01:28] <saulll> jelly: If I dont have that mounted
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1941[15:02:15] <jelly> that's probably a bug in os-prober
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1942[15:02:23] <magaltavor> can anybody help why my debian is not
generating cioredumps when apache process crash
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1943[15:02:25] <magaltavor> please
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1944[15:02:29] <magaltavor> ?
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1978[15:25:22] <petn-randall> magaltavor: How did you enable
coredumps?
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1999[15:32:35] <magaltavor> petn-randall, added this in the
apache2.conf - CoreDumpDirectory /var/cache/apache2/
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2003[15:34:11] <magaltavor> and installed the following packages
apache2-dbg libapr1-dbg libaprutil1-dbg gdb
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2005[15:34:21] <magaltavor> then stop start apache
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2086[16:10:04] <M0nk3y> Hi guys someone already see this error on
firefox please ? SSL_ERROR_RX_UNEXPECTED_HELLO_REQUEST
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2089[16:11:06] <gpunk> M0nk3y: reload the page
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2091[16:11:53] <M0nk3y> gpunk thks but it's arrived
frequently
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2093[16:12:33] <petn-randall> M0nk3y: What page are you trying to
load?
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2094[16:12:57] <gpunk> M0nk3y: is your clock on time ?
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2095[16:13:00] <M0nk3y> My web server with a self signed
certificate
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2097[16:13:17] <M0nk3y> Yes
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2098[16:13:49] <babilen> M0nk3y: You might want to look at
letsencrypt (easily done and automated renewals with dehydrated on
Debian)
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2100[16:13:55] <babilen> judd: info dehydrated
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2101[16:13:57] <judd> Package dehydrated (misc, optional) in
stretch/amd64: ACME client implemented in Bash. Version: 0.3.1-3;
Size: 69.9k; Installed: 143k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2105[16:15:06] <jelly> for what it's worth, jessie-backports
package for dehydrated works on wheezy and even squeeze
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2106[16:15:12] <M0nk3y> Ok thks guys
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2107[16:15:19] <jelly> it's a shell script.
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2113[16:16:59] <petn-randall> M0nk3y: Without knowing the
details, I'm guessing your web server and client have no TLS
ciphers in common. Or it's not talking TLS on that port.
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2115[16:18:24] <babilen> M0nk3y: Something like
replaced-url
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2116[16:18:42] <tw> M0nk3y: TLS version is wrong. FF and the site
you're trying to reach do not support any common TLS version or
it isn't enabled in FF.
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2117[16:18:58] <tw> You may have to turn on TLS 1.0 in firefox,
or increase the level supported by nginx.
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2118[16:19:04] <M0nk3y> I'm very bad with cipher connections
but my web server listen on 443 port and i add it my self signed
certificate and it work but sometimes this error appear
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2125[16:19:43] <babilen> M0nk3y:
replaced-url
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2127[16:19:51] <M0nk3y> Ok thks i will see that tw and babilen
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2134[16:24:10] <babilen> M0nk3y:
replaced-url
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2135[16:24:48] <M0nk3y> babilen: Ok very thanks
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2136[16:25:02] <babilen> Create
/etc/dehydrated/conf.d/enable_hooks.sh with
'HOOK=/etc/dehydrated/hook.sh' (the script I pasted) to,
well, enable hooks
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2138[16:25:19] <babilen> All you really need for that is a valid
domain name
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2148[16:26:34] <porton> I want to suggest to Debian maintainers
to create a new (empty, dependencies only) package. Where to write?
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2154[16:28:57] <n4dir> porton: might be that is what you are
looking for, but i sure wouldn't bet:
replaced-url
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2158[16:31:32] <dontknow> ,kernel
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2159[16:31:33] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.14.0-rc3-686-pae (4.14~rc3-1~exp1); sid:
4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-1); buster: 4.12.0-2-686 (4.12.13-1);
stretch-backports: 4.12.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.12.13-1~bpo9+1);
stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports:
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2160[16:31:34] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1)
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2166[16:35:50] <dontknow> i use stretch backport kernel. but the
version is "4.12.6-1~bpo9+1". the update came but it
doesn't install. it keeps the linux-image-amd64
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2167[16:36:06] <dontknow> what should i do?
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2168[16:36:13] <petn-randall> !bat
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2169[16:36:13] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2170[16:36:20] <petn-randall> dontknow: Can you provide the info
above? ^^^
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2183[16:40:52] <jelly> ,v linux-image-amd64
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2184[16:40:53] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 --
wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63;
jessie-backports: 4.9+80~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u1;
stretch-proposed-updates: 4.9+80+deb9u2; stretch-backports:
4.12+85~bpo9+1; buster: 4.12+85; sid: 4.13+86
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2188[16:41:49] <dontknow> here is the information
replaced-url
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2189[16:41:58] <doverZ> hi all, anyone knows if ubiquity
installer is compatible with debian stretch?
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2191[16:42:09] <dontknow> petn-randall, ^
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2197[16:44:56] <dontknow> jelly, ^
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2198[16:45:01] <dontknow> so what do you say?
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2199[16:45:14] <petn-randall> dontknow: What command are you
using in 1)?
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2201[16:45:33] <petn-randall> !localized errors
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2202[16:45:33] <dpkg> To provide command output in English
instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one
(e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get
-f install".
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2204[16:45:37] <dontknow> petn-randall, apt-get upgrade
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2206[16:46:07] <petn-randall> dontknow: Can you provide the
output of 'LC_ALL=C apt install linux-image-amd64'?
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2208[16:46:48] <dontknow> no
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2209[16:47:09] <dontknow> can't you distinct pattern
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2213[16:48:43] <dontknow> apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64
says; "installed: 4.12+84~bpo9+1", "candidate:
4.12+85~bpo9+1"
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2215[16:50:39] <erob> hi
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2216[16:51:04] <erob> after upgrading openssh-client, i can no
longer connect to a remote host with a public key
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2217[16:51:16] <erob> ssh key_load_public no such file or
directory
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2218[16:51:20] <erob> ??
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2219[16:52:11] <petn-randall> dontknow: I see that, but you want
to find out *why* it doesn't upgrade.
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2220[16:52:26] <petn-randall> dontknow: That's what
'LC_ALL=C apt install linux-image-amd64' is for.
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2223[16:54:13] <dontknow> petn-randall, when i use that command,
it wants to install now
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2224[16:54:20] <dontknow> should i install?
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2229[16:55:28] <petn-randall> dontknow: Say yes, it'll
likely fail, and share the output with us.
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2230[16:55:48] <dontknow> eh. i don't want to break my
system
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2231[16:55:55] <petn-randall> ...
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2232[16:55:56] <dontknow> thanks anyway
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2233[16:56:05] <dontknow> i can't risk it
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2235[16:56:17] <petn-randall> dontknow: It won't break your
system, it'll fail due to unsatisfied deps and will give you a
meaningful error message.
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2237[16:56:45] <dontknow> i will wait a couple of day
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2238[16:56:52] <dontknow> maybe it will be fixed
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2241[16:57:04] <petn-randall> dontknow: Maybe, but you could find
out right now.
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2242[16:57:08] <BathBombBarry> Because things fix themselves
around here
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2255[17:00:55] <dontknow> petn-randall, will it install backport?
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2260[17:02:57] <petn-randall> dontknow: It won't do
anything, it'll give you an error that helps you understand why
it fails.
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2267[17:05:21] <dontknow> ,kernel
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2268[17:05:23] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.14.0-rc3-686-pae (4.14~rc3-1~exp1); sid:
4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-1); buster: 4.12.0-2-686 (4.12.13-1);
stretch-backports: 4.12.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.12.13-1~bpo9+1);
stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports:
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2269[17:05:24] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1)
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2270[17:05:37] <dontknow> petn-randall, my kernel version is same
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2272[17:05:45] <dontknow> (stretch backport one)
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2273[17:05:58] <petn-randall> ...
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2275[17:06:10] <dontknow> 4.12.13-1~bpo9+1
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2278[17:06:26] <petn-randall> dontknow: That's still
irrelevant. If you don't want to run that apt command, fine by
me, but you won't find out what the problem is.
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2280[17:06:33] <dontknow> ah sorry it is not
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2282[17:07:00] <dontknow> petn-randall, ok i will do. wait a sec
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2284[17:07:51] <dontknow> petn-randall, i did it and installed
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2288[17:08:38] <dontknow> petn-randall, if my system doesn't
boot, wait for me
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2289[17:08:39] <petn-randall> dontknow: Did you run 'apt
update' between now and when the problem first showed up?
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2291[17:08:48] <dontknow> yes
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2292[17:09:04] <dontknow> rebooting
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2294[17:09:16] <petn-randall> dontknow: Then it was likely just
that the backports repo wasn't consistent for a moment.
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2309[17:16:16] <dontknow> petn-randall, it booted. but why is it
installed that way? should i install it like that every time?
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2311[17:17:15] <petn-randall> dontknow: Then it was likely just
that the backports repo wasn't consistent for a moment.
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2313[17:17:52] <dontknow> petn-randall, will it update by itself
next time?
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2316[17:18:49] <petn-randall> dontknow: Likely linux-image-amd64
got into backports a little earlier than the package it depended on,
which is why it didn't install the first time. You probably
would have seen the cause if you had run the command I said in time,
but now we'll never know.
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2318[17:19:11] <petn-randall> dontknow: If you still have
linux-image-amd64 installed, it'll automatically update
normally.
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2321[17:19:54] <dontknow> petn-randall, what did that command do
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2323[17:21:20] <dontknow> i should wait a little more. you ruined
my system probably
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2324[17:21:35] <dontknow> should have*
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2327[17:22:03] <petn-randall> dontknow: The same as 'apt
upgrade' would do, but it would have given you a meaningful
error message.
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2330[17:22:14] <petn-randall> dontknow: Very unlikely.
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2331[17:22:30] <dontknow> i hope so
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believe me, read the man page to the option of apt.
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2369[17:42:49] <jelly> did they ever provide b-a-t info?
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2391[17:51:32] <petn-randall> jelly: Partially, but then had to
debate for ages if they should run 'apt install
linux-image-amd64', and apparently did other things in between.
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2409[17:56:30] <Epx998> Anyone know where I can get the latest
megaraid source?
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replaced-url
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2416[18:00:44] <jelly> Epx998: why do you ask?
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2417[18:00:59] <Epx998> because i'd like to DL and compile
it
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2419[18:01:44] <jelly> the megaraid brand has been used for a
wide range of products in different generations with different
drivers
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2421[18:02:17] <jelly> Epx998: and which issue do you plan to
solve or work around by compiling it?
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2422[18:02:29] <Epx998> kernel module specifically is what im
looking to build
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2423[18:02:31] <petn-randall> !xy problem
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2424[18:02:31] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
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2425[18:02:54] <Epx998> updating my netboot initrd linuz to use
the latest kernel avail for each release we use
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2426[18:02:59] <jelly> Epx998: because usually the easiest thing
to do is try a newer kernel, perhaps from the distro backports
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2428[18:03:56] <petn-randall> Epx998: I'd go with a
backports kernel, as jelly said. There's no guarantee that the
module from the master branch will compile against your current
kernel headers.
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2430[18:04:34] <jelly> Epx998: are you sure you need the
"megaraid" driver specifically? That shit is old and so
are the pci-ids the driver binds
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2437[18:05:38] <Epx998> i have a fairly current driver, ill try
that one
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2438[18:05:50] <Epx998> it did compile against the kernel I a
musnig
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2447[18:06:51] <jelly> in fact the driver version hasnot changed
at all between 3.16 and 4.13-rc5
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2448[18:07:14] * petn-randall gets out the crystal ball.
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2450[18:07:25] <jelly> looking at
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2451[18:07:29] <jelly> modinfo
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.ko
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2453[18:07:34] <jelly> etc.
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2455[18:08:01] <jelly> Epx998: so which hardware are you actually
targeting, what's the pci id?
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2458[18:08:12] <jelly> Epx998: and which debian release?
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2471[18:11:33] <magaltavor> anything you can recommend
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2485[18:18:40] <keith4> seeing a weird bug in sshd on Stretch.
have a key in root's authorized keys file, restricted to a
single host using the DNS name. logging in from that host, using
this key pair, fails. sshd logs a message complaining that the host
doesn't match, including the IP of the host. which is identical
to the permitted host.
replaced-url
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2488[18:19:04] <keith4> that is to say, the real IP is in both
places in the log message, in place of 1.2.3.4
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2490[18:19:33] <keith4> (oh, and the identical setup on Jessie
works as intended)
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2494[18:20:12] <kishmesh> does debian (9.1) provide a graphical
package manager that a "novice" use can handle? about to
reinstall a laptop for a friend, she was using Mint before (which
eventually failed).
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2497[18:20:48] <keith4> kishmesh: synaptic?
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2499[18:21:06] <kishmesh> keith4: ok. i'm not a debian user
myself :-)
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2500[18:21:13] <kishmesh> just looking for something more stable
than Mint
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2501[18:21:27] <petn-randall> kishmesh: What was
"unstable" about Mint?
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2503[18:21:52] <keith4> be aware that Debian doesn't have an
non-free drivers out of the box, so to speak, so odd bits of
hardware typically found in a laptop will not work without some
additional effort
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2507[18:22:47] <kishmesh> petn-randall: in this case, her
wireless lan failed, probably a driver problem.
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2508[18:23:08] <kishmesh> keith4: good to know, thx
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2510[18:23:41] <dontknow> kishmesh, is laptop new?
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2511[18:23:55] <petn-randall> kishmesh: That is unrelated to your
DE, you likely just need to install the firmware.
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2518[18:24:38] <kishmesh> dontknow: no old lenovo laptop, I think
E325 or something
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2523[18:25:43] <dontknow> but wireless was working and failed
later?
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2524[18:25:58] <kishmesh> dontknow: yes indeed
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2525[18:26:12] <dontknow> there must be something else then
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2527[18:27:06] <kishmesh> like what?
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2529[18:27:40] <dontknow> i dunno
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2530[18:28:07] <Toffe> Darn, anyone know how i can set up SUPHP
like enviroment on my Debian 9
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2533[18:28:43] <apollo13> what is suphp and why would you want to
have that?
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2534[18:30:03] <jelly> Toffe: use php-fpm
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2535[18:30:06] <Toffe> apollo13: Want PHP to be run as users
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2536[18:30:17] * FinalX seconds jelly's comment: use FPM
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2537[18:30:19] <apollo13> use php-fpm :)
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2539[18:30:33] <Toffe> just php-fpm? Google apache+php-fpm?
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2540[18:30:37] <Toffe> Will try :)
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2541[18:30:46] <jelly> apt-cache search php-fpm for a start
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2543[18:31:06] <FinalX> Toffe: FastCGI Process Manager; PHP keeps
running as a seperate daemon with pools that can be run as specific
users. It's much faster, flexible and efficient.
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2544[18:31:20] <FinalX> well, it's php7.0-fpm in stretch
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2545[18:31:23] <Toffe> FinalX but that requires configuring every
user to php system?
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2549[18:31:59] <Toffe> currently my apache config is
"wildcard" so every user can have a domain with the same
username.. e.g. "/home/DOMAIN/public_html/SUBDOMAIN"
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2550[18:32:03] <jelly> also, suphp does not exist in stretch any
more at all so there's that
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2551[18:32:06] <FinalX> Toffe: yes, but suphp, even though it
does not require that specifically, can't be used properly with
a recent Apache without defeating the purpose of many things of it.
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2552[18:32:07] <Toffe> and i was hoping to not add to much more
configuring
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2553[18:32:33] <FinalX> FPM supports up to 10k pools or so before
it crashes with an out of memory error, I've tried.
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2554[18:32:40] <Toffe> Haha :D
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2555[18:32:46] <FinalX> and unless you have a platform like me to
worry about, you won't hit that :P
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2556[18:32:52] <Toffe> but i have to create a pool for every
user?
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2557[18:33:06] <FinalX> every user you want to have its own php,
yes.
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2558[18:33:09] <Toffe> so a new config for every domain? =) must
make a script if so
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2560[18:33:16] <jelly> oh no! A script!
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2561[18:33:16] <FinalX> exactly
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2563[18:33:29] <Toffe> that i dont need with apache config i have
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2564[18:33:42] <FinalX> you can make a template and copy it for
every user, replacing the pool name with the username and use $pool
in the username in the config
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2565[18:33:44] <Toffe>
replaced-url
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2567[18:34:08] <Toffe> maybe this is bad practive too? having
only one site config :P
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2568[18:34:15] <FinalX> cool thing is that per user/pool you can
also specify if it needs to keep running permanently, or only be
spawned when necessary, saving you RAM as well.
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2570[18:34:37] <jelly> Toffe: you could also replace apache with
nginx while you're at it, eh!
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2571[18:34:43] <Toffe> yeah i had nginx before
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2572[18:34:59] <Toffe> but it was a hazzle to get it like that
and apache is only 20 lines config :P
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2573[18:35:03] <FinalX> nginx would make it a hell of a lot
easier to use fpm per user ..
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2574[18:35:07] <Toffe> ooh? :P
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2576[18:35:21] <Toffe> damn i deleted my
"wildcard-vhost-config" for nginx :P
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2577[18:35:36] <FinalX> you do realise that nginx is far more
flexible and can do regular expressions and even named matches from
said regexp?
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2578[18:35:43] <jelly> that combo was easier to set up for me
than apache, never got used to 2.4 syntax changes
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2579[18:36:01] <Toffe> FinalX yeah but i suck at regexp :P
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2580[18:36:06] <Toffe> but i am a master at *
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2581[18:36:10] <Toffe> :P
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2582[18:36:21] <jelly> I have a regex t-shirt and am available
for hire!
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2585[18:36:43] <Toffe> Haha dont want to pay more for my hobby :P
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2586[18:37:11] <fly_agaric> hello guys iam using libcurl for
automatic file upload in a software but it wont work on my debian
host
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2587[18:37:20] <koollman> jelly: is there this
replaced-url
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2588[18:37:20] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
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2589[18:37:21] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
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2590[18:37:26] <petn-randall> fly_agaric: ^^^
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2591[18:37:30] <jelly> the latter, koollman
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2593[18:38:07] <FinalX> Toffe: server { server_name
~(?<subdomain>.*)\.(?<domain>.*)\.(?<tld>.*); root
/home/$domain/public_html/$subdomain; }
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2595[18:38:27] <fly_agaric> curl_easy_perform() failed:
Couldn't resolve host name is the error message but it
communicates via IP not DNS. any ideas? in the shell curl -F works
for upload
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2596[18:38:29] <jelly> koollman: I wonder if they updated the
regex for RFC5322...
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2599[18:39:06] <koollman> jelly: it's already incomplete.
It's a good example of why you do not want regex to parse a
complex grammar
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2600[18:39:06] <FinalX> Toffe: I think that ought to do it,
won't help with hosts that don't have a subdomain (replaced-url
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2601[18:39:17] <jelly> fly_agaric: did you try running strace on
the process and see what it's doing
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2602[18:39:25] <Toffe> FinalX i have a config moving non
replaced-url
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2603[18:39:29] <FinalX> Toffe: for more nginx help, there's
a bunch of friendly people in #nginx
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2605[18:39:40] <Toffe> I'm reformatting now to install nginx
instead
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2607[18:39:59] <Toffe> or.. more.. cp CleanDebian9.qcow2 ->
webserver.qcow2 :P
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2609[18:40:06] <linoge> so, what's up with the python-x-whl
packages? What's the whl thingy there? Wise Holy Light?
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2611[18:40:24] <at0m> Toffe: reformatting? this isn't
Windows.
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2612[18:40:28] <jelly> ,v python-x-whl
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2613[18:40:30] <judd> No package named 'python-x-whl'
was found in amd64.
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2614[18:40:42] <linoge> ,v python-six-whl
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2615[18:40:43] <judd> Package: python-six-whl on amd64 -- jessie:
1.8.0-1
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2616[18:40:53] <jelly> only in jessie, eh?
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2617[18:41:02] <jelly> who knows
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2618[18:41:03] <dondelelcaro> it's something something
"PEP 427 wheel"
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2619[18:41:12] <Toffe> at0m: well i am formatting the disk. Since
i am setting up the disks over again ;P
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2620[18:41:21] <dondelelcaro> something to do with running python
packages in virtual environments
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2621[18:41:27] <linoge> yup kinda weird, there are python-six as
well, they only got installed when I invited python-virtualenv
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2625[18:41:53] <jelly> sounds like they managed to migrate off
those in a single release
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dialog of Elizabethtown but way too lazy today ^^
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2656[18:52:07] <ilCyx86_64> I've got a fresh slapd setup. A
minute ago, I could run `ldapsearch -x` from the same machine and
get a dump of everything, now I just get "result: 32 No such
object
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2657[18:52:09] <ilCyx86_64> ". Slapcat still returns
expected results.
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2666[18:55:10] <Toffe> FinalX should i ask php-fpm to use tcp
sockets is that better than socket?
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2668[18:55:26] <Toffe> guide says so but i dont know whats best..
:P
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2695[19:05:32] <fly_agaric> strace tells me that
/etc/ld.so.nohwcap /etc/ld.so.preload /usr/local/sbin/sleep
/usr/local/sbin/pushd /usr/local/sbin/popd bin/logger and
hlds.27883.pid is missing
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2714[19:12:25] <Toffe> i am a expert.. at regexp.. not ;P
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2725[19:17:02] <jelly> Toffe: #regex channel can help if
you're stuck
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2728[19:18:23] <jelly> fly_agaric: were you not interested in why
the tool tried to do dns lookups of ip addresses and failed? Those
things do not seem relevant
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2734[19:20:20] <fly_agaric> jelly: yes i want to know that but I
cant see anything related to dns in the output file
replaced-url
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2735[19:20:24] <fly_agaric> can you see anything?
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2740[19:22:42] <jelly> fly_agaric: looks like a shell script,
you'll want to add -f and maybe larger -s to strace, find out
where the message is coming from, and look at what that process is
doing before that
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2744[19:23:15] <jelly> expect lots of output from strace,
~megabytes
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2745[19:23:57] <jelly> you can also tell it to output to file
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2804[19:55:21] <FinalX> Toffe: unix domain sockets are better and
arguably faster, and more secure. tcp listening sockets are more
easy to use without having to worry a lot about file system
permissions (though you should, imo).
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2806[19:55:38] <Toffe> Aha keeping sockets =)
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2807[19:55:58] <FinalX> Toffe: unix domain sockets have another
advantage: you can use $pool (could be username!) in the filename of
the socket. so in nginx you could map to
/run/shm/php-fpm-$username.socket
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2808[19:56:15] <FinalX> with port numbers you don't really
know and would have to keep a (external) map
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2811[19:57:01] <FinalX> but i see you're in #nginx,
let's keep it there as this is not really debian-related at all
:)
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2820[20:02:33] <fly_agaric> how can i open 600M strace files?
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2821[20:02:50] <apollo13> man ed
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2822[20:02:51] <apollo13> :)
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2830[20:08:02] <tdn> Are there any options for running GFS2 with
Debian Stretch?
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2832[20:08:12] <masterkorp> What is the recomended way to install
the AMD drivers?
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2833[20:08:25] * abrotman thought they weren't needed anymore?
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2834[20:08:33] <abrotman> masterkorp: did you install the
firmware-radeon package?
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2836[20:09:02] <Ormu1> I got some Bluetooth errors during boot...
I guess that's nothing serious?
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2885[20:30:52] <daniel2> What is a good altnerative for aptly?
I'm not really liking aptly but need to manage my own repo
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2891[20:33:02] <fly_agaric> how can I read strace files? its
constantly bringing out too fast for my eye
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2893[20:33:18] <fly_agaric> and they are very big
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2903[20:35:12] <fly_agaric> i did that but the file is very big
and I dont know what to search there
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2904[20:35:16] <fly_agaric> over 1000000 lines
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2905[20:35:58] <koollman> fly_agaric: why are you looking into it
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2909[20:36:48] <fly_agaric> a program should upload something via
libcurl but it wont do instead it throws an error message
curl_easy_perform() failed: Couldn't resolve host name
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uploads a file to an ip adress not hostname
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2932[20:46:20] <Brigo> fly_agaric, i can't see how strace
can help with that.
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2934[20:46:39] <fly_agaric> what would you do?
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2943[20:50:20] <teraflops> fly_agaric: are you uploading the file
to
replaced-url
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2947[20:51:03] <fly_agaric> as en example
192.168.0.254:12360/upload
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2948[20:51:09] <fly_agaric> *an
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2950[20:52:06] <teraflops> you can ping 192.168.0.254? is the
12360 port listening there?
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2953[20:52:45] <teraflops> if yes/yes and it is not doing https,
idk what's going there
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2959[20:54:08] <teraflops> try setting a hostname in /etc/hosts
for testing purposes but idk if doing such thing will fix your issue
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2961[20:55:18] <fly_agaric> the file upload is working from other
hosts
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2962[20:55:41] <fly_agaric> only from my servers its not working
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2965[20:56:32] <fly_agaric> the others are uploading to the same
address 192.168.0.254:12360/upload where 192.168.0.254 is a fictive
address in fact this is an wan ip
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2967[20:56:50] <teraflops> stop lying
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2968[20:56:59] <teraflops> wan != lan
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2969[20:57:11] <fly_agaric> its not 192.168.0.254 i just used it
to hide the real wan ip
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2970[20:57:27] <teraflops> 192.168.0.254 is not a wan ip either
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2972[20:57:34] <fly_agaric> I know
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2973[20:57:57] <teraflops> we dont
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2974[20:57:57] <fly_agaric> but as I said i dont upload to
192.168.0.254 its just a placeholder for a wan ip
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2977[20:58:35] <fly_agaric> i could also write
1.1.1.1:12360/upload if that makes you happier
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2982[20:59:05] <teraflops> you have to specify it is a wan ip
from the very beginning
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2987[21:00:54] <Anthony87> hello, may I ask for help?
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2988[21:00:58] <annadane> !ask to ask
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2989[21:00:58] <dpkg> Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if
anybody can help you with x. Just ask! If you're unsure how to
phrase your question, ask me about <ask>.
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2990[21:01:07] <teraflops> if you cannot reach the ip
address/port from your command line e.g using telnet or whatever (so
you avoid libcurl) go ask them I think
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2991[21:01:07] <fly_agaric> a hostname is set in /etc/hostname
srvupload1
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2992[21:01:25] <Anthony87> well I would like to ask an irc
related question
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2993[21:01:38] <Anthony87> I don't know if it is appropriate
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2995[21:01:56] <annadane> Anthony87, well, ask the question and
we can tell you whether or not it is
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2996[21:02:07] <teraflops> #freenode looks like a good place too
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2998[21:02:23] <Anthony87> thank you
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2999[21:02:46] <Anthony87> I would like to know if I can find an
user from his mask.. let me explain
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3000[21:02:55] <annadane> "irc question" for example
might be "my hexchat is broken, all the fonts are
disfigured" and seeing as how it's packaged for debian
that means it isn't off topic here
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3001[21:02:58] <Anthony87> I got a mask from the whois
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3002[21:03:08] <annadane> oh, right, well, *that* is off topic
here
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3003[21:03:14] <Anthony87> that's it, ok.
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3004[21:03:17] <Anthony87> I'm sorry.
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3005[21:03:25] <teraflops> Anthony87: yeah #freenode looks like a
better place for your question
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3006[21:03:40] <Anthony87> thank you teraflops I'll go there
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3020[21:06:54] <teraflops> fly_agaric: when I say stop lying I
wasn't calling you liar it's just if you omit such info
you're not helping people to help you
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3029[21:12:48] <DJDan> does VBOX Debian support virtual PCIE
wireless cards? For some reason i dont think its picking up the
Wireless card Broadcom extension (Macbook Pro Mid 2010 17"
Internal Airport Extreme BCM card)
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3037[21:15:32] <towo`> vbox does not support virtual wireless
cards at all
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3038[21:15:37] <zarzar> i'm getting a version mismatch when
installing libxml2-utils-dbg
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3040[21:15:47] <towo`> no matter if it is the debian version or
direct from oracle
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3041[21:16:01] <fly_agaric> DJDan: install kvm
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3042[21:16:09] <fly_agaric> it supports pci-e passthrough
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3048[21:18:06] <towo`> pci passthrough depends on VT-d, do
macbooks support that technology?
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3053[21:20:32] <zarzar> i'm getting a version mismatch when
installing libxml2-utils-dbg
replaced-url
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3067[21:25:39] <towo`> zarzar, if libxml2-utils=2.9.4+dfsg1-4 is
zo be installed, then you don't use stable
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3094[21:35:51] <ledufakademy> gf
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3101[21:38:00] <`Kevin> doesnt virtualbox support pci passthrough
via vboxmanage pciattach ?
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3102[21:38:18] <`Kevin> re: scrollback ^ but id also suggest kvm
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3103[21:38:42] <zarzar> towo`: how do i use stable?
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3108[21:40:21] <towo`> zarzar, that is a question with no sense
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3110[21:40:36] <towo`> zarzar, do you know, what you are doing on
your system?
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3112[21:41:00] <towo`> Kevin`, it does and even depends on VT-d
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3117[21:43:41] <zarzar> nope
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3118[21:44:09] <towo`> zarzar, paste the output of apt policy
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3120[21:45:19] <zarzar> towo`: i ran apt-get remove libxml2,
seems to be removing waaay too much
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3121[21:45:23] <zarzar> :(
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3122[21:46:25] <towo`> you should no do things, if you don't
know anything
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3123[21:46:41] <towo`> but it's your system, good luck
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3133[21:50:29] <zarzar> towo`: apt policy doesn't do
anything
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3134[21:50:35] <zarzar> invalid operation
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3135[21:51:11] <towo`> try apt-get policy
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3137[21:51:30] <zarzar> nada
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3138[21:51:43] <towo`> then you don't have debian
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3139[21:51:49] <towo`> or debian based system
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3140[21:52:01] <zarzar> towo`: i'm running debian based
distro for beaglebone black
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3142[21:52:10] <zarzar> thoguht it was debian
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3143[21:52:14] <zarzar> based
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3148[21:53:13] <towo`> if apt-get policy does not show anything,
you do nat have any debian based system
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3149[21:53:35] <towo`> or you have a totaly fucked system
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3151[21:54:35] <McErroneous> ##networking
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3153[21:55:19] <null_b0n3s> helli
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3154[21:55:21] <null_b0n3s> helolo
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3156[21:56:31] <annadane> null_b0n3s, hi. do you have a question?
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3172[22:00:43] <Epx998> Is there a way to get the
debian-installer to create a static ip network interface file using
the info captured from dhcp?
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3192[22:12:15] <DammitJim> is it still the norm to allocate swap
to be twice that of RAM?
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3193[22:12:30] <koollman> no
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3194[22:12:43] <koollman> there are machines with TB of ram
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3195[22:12:49] <spacebug^> is there an easy way to run android
apps in Debian? (since Anbox does not yet run on Debian)
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3199[22:14:55] <DammitJim> what is the norm, then?
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3200[22:15:07] <DammitJim> or is there no such a thing these
days?
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3201[22:15:28] <koollman> DammitJim: there are many norms, now :)
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3202[22:15:47] <koollman> I would say 'it depends but still
have some swap'
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3203[22:16:22] <towo`> suspend to disk depends on swap
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3205[22:17:11] <koollman> yep. And I wouldn't want to try
suspend to disk with 1TB swap :)
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3206[22:17:18] <towo`> and if there is enough ram, and s2d is not
used, swap is not needed really
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3214[22:20:38] <koollman> DammitJim:
replaced-url
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3218[22:21:27] <john_rambo> Hi, I am seeing a folder called
".luckybackup-snaphots" inside one of my folders in my
home dir ..I have never used luckybackup ...Any ideas where this
file came from ?
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3219[22:21:39] <john_rambo> folder*
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3226[22:25:18] <annadane> john_rambo, you say "inside"
one of your folders. which one?
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3228[22:25:51] <john_rambo> The folder in which I keep my
KeepassX database
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3229[22:25:56] <john_rambo> annadane, ^
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3255[22:34:25] <McErroneous> Hi, how do i disable network-manager
in gnome asking for root passwd, everytime i want to change network
configuration ?
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3258[22:35:48] <McErroneous> doing chmod 4764
"nm-connection-editor" did not work...
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3260[22:36:52] <McErroneous> that is setting uid...
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3273[22:44:48] <DammitJim> thanks koollman
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3274[22:45:03] <DammitJim> for me to do headless stuff against a
debian server
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3275[22:45:10] <DammitJim> I just need the xserver-xorg package,
right?
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3276[22:45:15] <DammitJim> and do ssh -X for X forwarding?
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3281[22:47:13] <koollman> DammitJim: xserver-xorg on the side you
want stuff to appear
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3284[22:48:57] <DammitJim> how about on the server one is
connecting to that doesn't have a monitor?
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3287[22:49:51] <DammitJim> or is it X11-common?
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3294[22:53:34] <gunix> how were the files called that were left
behind by apt when installing new software that changed config
files? I think it was dpkg-new or dpkg-old or something like that
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3299[22:55:28] <koollman> DammitJim: x11-common is often needed
but it would be a dependency of whatever you want to start
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3300[22:56:16] <koollman> DammitJim: but the X server is not
needed at all. just some application that will be the X client,
connecting back to your (local) X server to display stuff on your
monitor
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3302[22:56:46] <koollman> DammitJim: so whatever you run (maybe
xclock or xeyes. my preferred remote x11 test :) )
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3305[22:58:50] <gunix> how can i see the postinst and preinst
scripts of packages?
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3307[23:00:02] <towo`> gunix, read them in /var/lib/dpkg/info
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3315[23:02:35] <gunix> towo`: any way of doing that before
installing the package?
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3316[23:04:10] <annadane> it's probably in the source code
tarballs under those titles...
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3319[23:04:30] <towo`> gunix, what are you trying to do?
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3321[23:04:48] <gunix> towo`: read the postinst script for
apache2, out of curiosity
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3323[23:05:15] <Arone> Bonsoir
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3324[23:05:51] <annadane> !fr
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3325[23:05:52] <dpkg> Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez
rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in
french, please go to #debian-fr.
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3326[23:06:31] <towo`> gunix, and what do you expect from it?
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3328[23:06:59] <towo`> gunix, you could download the deb-file,
extract it and read those scripts
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3330[23:08:50] <masterkorp> Hello, what is the recomended way on
install the proprietary ATI drivers?
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3332[23:10:08] <Arone> LeL
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3333[23:10:09] <Arone> my bad :D
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3334[23:10:12] <Brigo> !fglrx
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3335[23:10:12] <dpkg> fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary
display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series,
Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units.
To install fglrx, see
replaced-url
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3336[23:10:20] <Arone> i go the baguette :D
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3337[23:10:33] <Brigo> masterkorp, the dkpg message is for you.
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3339[23:10:44] <towo`> there is no fglrx anymore
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3341[23:11:07] <towo`> and there is no propritary ati driver at
all in debian nowdays
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3342[23:11:12] <Brigo> then that message and the ati message are
outdated.
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