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1 [00:00:03] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
2 [00:00:04] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
3 [00:00:04] <jim> Lope, it's evident you like to
tinker...
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11 [00:00:34] <fugue> Anyone here mess with stressapptest?
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13 [00:00:39] <jelly> jim, the only thing evident is they
don't think providing complete info is related to getting good
help
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36 [00:04:44] <Lope> When I run grub-install it says it's
installing for i386-pc platform.
37 [00:04:46] <Lope> seems odd.
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39 [00:04:56] <Lope> is'n't it meant to be x86_64
platform?
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56 [00:07:36] <jelly> Lope, that's normal for mbr boot even
on a 64bit installation
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59 [00:08:23] <jim> jelly, yeah, didn't know it was gonna
be this bad...
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99 [00:24:35] <kion> If i have Debian with gnome, and want to
try fxde, will installing that DE install a bunch of other apps?
will it make a negative impact on my current system performance?
100 [00:25:12] <tw> kion: in order: yes, probably not.
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103 [00:26:08] <kion> tw, that would give me the choie while
logging in right?
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106 [00:26:42] <tw> If you use a display manager, it should give
you the option to select the DE.
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108 [00:27:26] <Lope> I found it, there was a file in
/var/lib/initramfs-tools/ with the name of the old kernel. I deleted
it and then update-initramfs completed without error.
109 [00:27:34] <Lope> But still
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111 [00:28:01] <Lope> now when I try boot it says alert!
/dev/mapper/myvg-mylv does not exist.
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130 [00:35:05] <Lope> so apparently this error happens when the
initramfs is made without lvm support
131 [00:35:26] <jim> probably, or other missing modules
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136 [00:40:16] <jim> I think you can tell it to put more modules
in the initramfs, by editing a file in /etc/default but I forgot the
name
137 [00:40:35] <jim> also I don't know how much control you
have
138 [00:42:36] <jmcnaught> the lvm2 package has a
/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/lvm2 file that if it exists, lvm
support will be included in the initramfs
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141 [00:43:37] <Lope> okay there was also something missing from
my old kernel
142 [00:43:55] <Lope> I think the way I installed it before, it
was referring to stuff in another dir that no longer exists.
143 [00:44:05] <Lope> anywya, I removed the newer custom kernel
also.
144 [00:44:12] <Lope> and mkinitramfs passed.
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146 [00:44:42] <Lope> oops. no it didn't pass.
147 [00:44:43] <Lope> lol
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157 [00:48:02] <jim> did you install a kernel from apt-get?
158 [00:49:23] <Lope> my apt-get isn't functioning
159 [00:49:37] <Lope> getting it unsecurely from the site.
160 [00:50:10] <jim> a linux-image deb?
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164 [00:50:40] <bubba9> hey yall
165 [00:50:44] <jim> hi
166 [00:50:45] <bubba9> how do i get asla working on jessie?
167 [00:50:53] <bubba9> seems to be installed , volume up on
mixer, etc
168 [00:50:55] <bubba9> but still wont work!
169 [00:51:04] <bubba9> how long will multimedia not work on
linux?
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171 [00:51:30] <jim> 24.6 inches?
172 [00:51:31] <bubba9> flash works fine now, but not audio!!!
173 [00:51:36] <bubba9> what
174 [00:51:52] <bubba9> how do i configure the package to work!
175 [00:51:59] <bubba9> upgrade to unstable?
176 [00:52:00] <jim> oh, that's a time duration...
177 [00:52:02] <Lope> jim: yes
178 [00:52:06] <jim> oops :)
179 [00:52:23] <jmcnaught> bubba9: do things other than flash
make sound?
180 [00:52:33] <jim> Lope, that could work
181 [00:52:44] <Lope> jim, yeah I expect it should
182 [00:53:07] <bubba9> dunno
183 [00:53:09] <bubba9> how can i test?
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186 [00:53:34] <bubba9> audio mixer doesnt have a test buttons
187 [00:53:56] <jmcnaught> bubba9: try to open something from
/usr/share/sounds
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189 [00:54:02] <jim> thaqt';s probably a good point
190 [00:54:17] <bubba9> how can i run something in bash in that
dir?
191 [00:54:24] <bubba9> yeh mixer should have a test button
192 [00:54:24] <bubba9> lol
193 [00:54:25] <jim> the mixer should have test buttons
194 [00:54:28] <bubba9> yes
195 [00:54:35] <bubba9> then slap my name next to it
196 [00:54:45] <bubba9> hell, instead of test you can call it
bubba9
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198 [00:55:10] <jim> bubba9 ./scriptfilename.sh
199 [00:55:32] <bubba9> permission denied when trying to run the
wav
200 [00:55:35] <bubba9> ./file.wav
201 [00:55:37] <bubba9> under root
202 [00:55:53] <jim> that's not an executable :)
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204 [00:55:58] <jmcnaught> bubba9: open that directory in a file
manager
205 [00:56:46] <bubba9> nah sound doesnt work with vlc player
either
206 [00:56:55] <bubba9> ITS BROKEN!
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208 [00:57:49] <bubba9> it seems setup fine just doesnt work
209 [00:57:53] <bubba9> using elitebook
210 [00:58:06] <bubba9> why alsa doesnt work!!!!
211 [00:58:06] <jmcnaught> bubba9: run alsamixer (not as root)
and hit F6 to select your sound card, then use left, right arrow
keys, look for channels that you can toggle, stuff like auto-mute
for example
212 [00:58:13] <bubba9> hang on
213 [00:58:17] <jmcnaught> bubba9: please cut down on the noise
214 [00:59:14] <bubba9> same thing
215 [00:59:26] <bubba9> card, pulse audio
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217 [00:59:48] <bubba9> hda intel pch
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219 [01:00:17] <jmcnaught> alsamixer sometimes show special
channels not exposed by other mixers, sometimes there are weird
toggles there that you need to switch to produce sound
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221 [01:01:57] <jmcnaught> bubba9: the next place to look is
pavucontrol (which you may need to install)
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223 [01:02:36] <jmcnaught> you should also confirm that
you're not outputting audio to a device you didn't expect,
like an HDMI out for your monitor
224 [01:02:48] <bubba9> im not
225 [01:02:51] <bubba9> just a basic laptop bro
226 [01:02:56] <bubba9> im turned up everything but mic
227 [01:02:59] <bubba9> still not working
228 [01:03:30] <jmcnaught> bubba9: are you in GNOME?
229 [01:03:33] <bubba9> no xfce
230 [01:03:48] <bubba9> Chip: Intel PantherPoint HDMI
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234 [01:05:15] <bubba9> can you not produce logs ?
235 [01:05:26] <jmcnaught> me?
236 [01:05:33] <bubba9> well help me to?
237 [01:05:36] <bubba9> would that help to debug?
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239 [01:05:54] <jmcnaught> bubba9: try "aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" as root
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241 [01:06:00] <bubba9> sec
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243 [01:06:14] <jmcnaught> bubba9: also get some headphones, try
those
244 [01:06:26] <bubba9> Playing WAVE
'/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
245 [01:06:31] <bubba9> i have, headphones dont work either
246 [01:06:39] <cheapie> Or if you really hate your ears,
"aplay /dev/urandom" :P
247 [01:06:43] <bubba9> ill rerun that command with headphones, 1
sec
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249 [01:07:30] <bubba9> same thing with headphones on
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251 [01:07:53] <bubba9> inserted headphone jack and speakers
turned off auto, so card must work
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254 [01:08:26] <bubba9> how was elite book never tested properly?
255 [01:09:08] <jmcnaught> bubba9: how do you think that a
volunteer project like Debian tests all the combinations of hardware
out there? People find bugs, and they report them
256 [01:09:13] <mutante> you didn't install it?
257 [01:09:26] <bubba9> install what?
258 [01:09:34] <bubba9> yes i know
259 [01:09:42] <bubba9> but elitebook was popular i thought, high
end
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261 [01:10:01] <mutante> did you try to google "debian on
elitebook" before you bought it?
262 [01:10:07] <bubba9> no lol
263 [01:10:12] <bubba9> im not crazy :P
264 [01:10:28] <Lope> Wow I could really facepalm right now
265 [01:10:40] <jmcnaught> bubba9: "lspci -nn |grep -i
audio"
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267 [01:10:45] <Lope> the source of much of my problems is I did
not create a /tmp dir in the newly copied fs
268 [01:10:51] <Lope> cos I excluded /tmp
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270 [01:11:25] <bubba9> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel
Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition
Audio Controller [8086:1e20] (rev 04)
271 [01:11:29] <mutante> bubba9: We have different definitons of
crazy.
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273 [01:11:44] <jmcnaught> ,pciid 8086:1e20
274 [01:11:45] <judd> [8086:1e20] is '7 Series/C216 Chipset
Family High Definition Audio Controller' from 'Intel
Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic',
'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also
replaced-url
275 [01:11:48] <garn32> question: trying to run "sudo pactl
set-sink-input-volume 2" but keep getting
"pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused",
pulseaudio is set to autostart... any one have a clue on how to make
the command work?
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277 [01:12:09] <jmcnaught> garn32: did you try without sudo?
278 [01:12:18] <bubba9> apt-get install snd-hda-intel ?
279 [01:12:33] <garn32> jmcnaught: yes I have tried running it
with and without, but I would double check
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281 [01:12:53] <jmcnaught> bubba9: no that's a module name,
but it suggests that the hardware is supported and you have a
configuration bug somewhere
282 [01:13:03] <bubba9> its vanilla install tho
283 [01:13:22] <bubba9> YOU have a config problem somewhere, not
I.
284 [01:13:46] <jmcnaught> bubba9: we're all in this
together, but if you don't drop the attitude then you're
not going to get any help
285 [01:14:10] <bubba9> just messing with you
286 [01:14:13] <bubba9> yes
287 [01:14:15] <bubba9> but how do i fix it
288 [01:14:24] <bubba9> snd-hda-intel is in the kernel broseph
289 [01:14:44] <bubba9> vanilla install, no custom configs, sound
doesnt work with snd-hda-intel
290 [01:14:48] <bubba9> completely upgraded
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293 [01:15:54] <jmcnaught> bubba9:
replaced-url
294 [01:16:11] <jmcnaught> you could try the model parameter
295 [01:16:25] <bubba9> saw that but cant find nano
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
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298 [01:17:02] <bubba9> fbdev-blacklist.conf modesetting.conf
<-- only files in dir
299 [01:17:48] <jmcnaught> bubba9: you can make new files in that
directory
300 [01:17:53] <bubba9>
replaced-url
301 [01:17:57] <PipeItToDevNull> Ok, so I saw a way to
"make" when compiling a kernel that looks at what is
currenly loaded, and only builds that. I cannot find it again for
the life of me. It is an argument like makeoldconfig
302 [01:17:58] <bubba9> k
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305 [01:18:57] <jmcnaught> bubba9: that ubuntu link has a warning
it's out of date…
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307 [01:19:01] <bubba9> alsa force-reload >> command not
found.
308 [01:19:13] <bubba9> does it still need to be same file name
tho?
309 [01:20:11] <bubba9> going to try this; options snd-hda-intel
model=basic
310 [01:20:17] <bubba9> but how do i force reload so i dont have
to reboot?
311 [01:20:17] <jmcnaught> bubba9: what does "grep Codec
/proc/asound/card0/codec*" say?
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313 [01:20:56] <bubba9>
replaced-url
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321 [01:25:07] <bubba9> tried /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
322 [01:25:13] <bubba9> daemon doesnt output anything to term
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324 [01:25:54] <jmcnaught> bubba9: it would require unloading
modules and reloading them using modprobe, probably easier to
reboot. Where did you get the info to decide on model=basic?
325 [01:25:58] <Lope> okay i give up
326 [01:26:01] <Lope> jim: lol
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328 [01:26:12] <bubba9> my brain
329 [01:26:16] <bubba9> which should i use? basic?
330 [01:26:21] <garn32> jmcnaught: figured it out, missed playing
with the firewall, I have fixed my issue, thanks for the previous
quick help
331 [01:26:54] <bubba9> alsa should have a reset option per
init.d
332 [01:27:15] <bubba9> daemon claims it does, doesnt work either
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336 [01:28:17] <Imbattible> Hi there!
337 [01:28:24] <bubba9> brb, going down for reboot
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340 [01:29:59] <bubba9> thx for help thus far
341 [01:30:00] <bubba9> be back in a jiffy
342 [01:30:21] <Imbattible> Anyone know how to create an
undetectable reverse shell :)
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345 [01:31:26] <bubba9> wait, wait!!!
346 [01:31:27] <bubba9> it works!
347 [01:31:35] <bubba9> weird.
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349 [01:32:03] <bubba9> but yeh so that file must have been
needed.
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352 [01:32:31] <bubba9> whats a good song?
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354 [01:32:49] <jmcnaught> bubba9: sweet! you could try it again
without the file, see if it was something else you did, but i'm
glad you got it working
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356 [01:33:13] <Kilo`byte> so i have mounted an existing debian
in another debian. both are from different architecture (outer is
x86, inner is arm). can i get the outer apt to update or install
packages in the inner debian
357 [01:33:16] <bubba9> well, i looked into the audio mixer gui
and unmuted also
358 [01:33:26] <bubba9> dunno, i tried that before no cigar tho
359 [01:33:27] <Kilo`byte> i can't chroot since the
architectures don't match
360 [01:34:17] <bubba9> later yall. peace out! :)
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362 [01:34:57] <jmcnaught> Kilo`byte: you'll probably need
to run it inside qemu
363 [01:35:14] <Digz> Kilo`byte, if you merely mounted the drive
that other linux is on.... then no.... you can't. I don't
know if virtualbox can virtualize arm environments (I suspect not)
but I think the only way to update it is to mount that disk into an
arm computer and boot it up
364 [01:35:37] <Kilo`byte> in particular i want to have a pi
image bootable via pxe which is mounted readonly via nfs but with
ability to update it without needing dedicated hardware to update it
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366 [01:35:59] <Digz> ah! qemu should be able to run arm indeed!
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368 [01:36:14] <Kilo`byte> qemu can for sure, but in this case i
was simplifying. there is no actual block device to forward into a
vm
369 [01:36:49] <Digz> where did the mounted image come from?
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371 [01:37:20] <Kilo`byte> either created on actual hardware or
via debootstrap. it doesn't exist yet, i am just planning for
whats possible
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374 [01:37:55] <Kilo`byte> plan is to have around ~9 pis for
unattended displays which just use network boot so i don't have
to maintain 9 individual setups
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376 [01:38:17] <Kilo`byte> but thats worthless if i can't
easily update them from a central point
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390 [01:43:55] <jim> Lope, right now in your particular situation
it's unfortunate... but who knows, the debian-specific stuff
and how they do and did things, might grow on you
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395 [01:45:45] <jim> it's not a good idea to mess with
debian packaging, -if- you hope to use the resulting mechanisms that
have been put in place to make a much larger system work
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399 [01:49:06] <gtt> when I start the openvpn server, it says
active(exited) SUCCESS as shown here:
replaced-url
400 [01:49:18] <gtt> but I don't see the service listening
in port 1194
401 [01:49:43] <gtt> through netstat -ltup
402 [01:50:03] <gtt> and I don't see any errors, clearly the
service isn't starting but systemd is telling me that it is
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404 [01:50:19] <gtt> I don't see anything in the journal
405 [01:51:03] <Lope> jim: no worries mate
406 [01:51:11] <Lope> I've been wanting to upgrade for ages
407 [01:51:22] <Lope> /reinstall, etc
408 [01:51:28] <Lope> so it's just forced me to do it.
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410 [01:51:32] <aaro> lsof -i :1194 gtt
411 [01:52:19] <gtt> aaro: nothing
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413 [01:52:33] <aaro> gtt try with sudo
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415 [01:52:46] <gtt> could it have anything to do with user
nobody and group nogroup?
416 [01:52:58] <gtt> failing silently but how come systemctl says
it's success
417 [01:53:02] <gtt> aaro: I'm already root
418 [01:54:22] <jmcnaught> Kilo`byte: maintain them with ansible
playbooks store in a git repo, or saltstack maybe
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420 [01:54:35] <Kilo`byte> yeah, i was thinking saltstack too
421 [01:54:47] <Kilo`byte> that'd be the alternative
422 [01:56:47] <gtt> now it is working, but such an obscure
solution it should be printed
423 [01:56:57] <gtt>
replaced-url
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431 [02:00:50] <spikeyball> have any of you used linux academy
for various cert prep?
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434 [02:03:07] <jim> I think psi-jack did
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454 [02:16:44] <forcerecon> spikeyball: I have..
455 [02:17:35] <forcerecon> spikeyball: I have also used udemy
for 5 day linux course and all volumes of network security along
with ethical hacking..
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459 [02:17:49] <forcerecon> spikeyball: cyber security is also
good from stationx
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476 [02:27:46] <jim> gftg, be nice to server bandwidth... I
don't think there's much going on now, but if there was,
nick change to mark yourself away for 1 minute is probably wasteful
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478 [02:28:22] <gftg> indeed
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482 [02:29:06] <gftg> I switched machines... I guess I'll
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588 [03:46:33] <_rubik> So I just did a fresh x64 install of Deb
9, and now I can't seem to get root access. My default user is
not in sudo file, su gives me an authentication failure, and I
can't log into root? What next?
589 [03:47:46] <leibniz> nnn:
590 [03:48:03] <spikeyball> _rubik, funny you mention that. i had
the same issue with my vm debian
591 [03:48:25] <spikeyball> though it was me and i forgot my root
password, did a reinstall, and still the same thing
592 [03:48:36] <_rubik> I tried reinstalling a second time,
thinking that I missed something in the install. But no
593 [03:48:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, can you log in as root
directly?
594 [03:48:54] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: from login? No
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597 [03:49:17] <_rubik> For more background info. I went with the
deb 9 x64 gnome iso
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600 [03:50:05] <spikeyball> same here
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602 [03:50:32] <spikeyball> this is why i always play with a vm
prior to an actual install
603 [03:50:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, you could boot up in a
rescue environment, mount, chroot and see if your user is in the
sudo/wheel group.
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607 [03:51:47] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: It is not in the sudo /
wheel group. I feel like this should be able to do without rescue...
I mean deb 9 is stable now.
608 [03:52:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, did you set up a root
password?
609 [03:52:21] <_rubik> Yes. I viewed in clear text to verify
too.
610 [03:53:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, it would be really
strange if you could not login directly as root with the root
password. I hope you're not confusing the root and user
passwords.
611 [03:54:03] <_rubik> I am not confusing them.
612 [03:54:24] <spikeyball> Eduard, I am having the same issue,
as well
613 [03:54:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> spikeyball, and you can't
login with root directly either?
614 [03:54:47] <spikeyball> correct
615 [03:54:54] <spikeyball> i just setup a fresh vm of it, too
616 [03:56:27] <spikeyball> can't login as root or use su
617 [03:56:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> Seems to have been reported:
replaced-url
618 [03:56:52] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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621 [03:57:24] <spikeyball> crazy
622 [03:57:24] <_rubik> Mind is not a live image though.
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624 [03:57:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> I would check if a newer image
has since been released.
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628 [03:58:39] <_rubik> Yeah. Im also not getting the gnome iso
either. I knew that was a bad call *grumble*
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635 [04:00:42] <spikeyball> for once, it's not user error
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637 [04:01:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, spikeyball, it's
easy to work around though, you just need to reset the root password
with a boot disk or editing the GRUB command line
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643 [04:04:34] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: remind me again the
directory I need to mount? It has been a while since I've done
this.
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645 [04:05:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, mount the root partition
somewhere, then chroot to it and call passwd
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655 [04:05:59] <^NIKNAME^> I LIKE WHEN BEG FOR MY COCK LIKE
LITTLE WHORES!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: boser Robby jback
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657 [04:06:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, alternatively, you can
edit the GRUB entry and add init=/bin/bash at the end of the kernel
command line, that'll drop you to a shell and you can call
passwd
658 [04:06:04] <charlie1> I LIKE WHEN BEG FOR MY COCK LIKE LITTLE
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662 [04:06:14] <patrizia> I LIKE WHEN BEG FOR MY COCK LIKE LITTLE
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669 [04:06:39] <rosario> I LIKE WHEN BEG FOR MY COCK LIKE LITTLE
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670 [04:06:39] <rosario> I LIKE WHEN BEG FOR MY COCK LIKE LITTLE
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679 [04:07:31] <_rubik> Well that just happned.
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684 [04:08:20] <uxfi> eh?
685 [04:08:24] <electricfuneral> just ignore it
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690 [04:08:49] <insecurity> Neat
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693 [04:09:31] <BenderRodriguez> lol
694 [04:09:35] <BenderRodriguez> why tho
695 [04:09:38] <BenderRodriguez> what's the end goal
696 [04:09:40] <BenderRodriguez> with these bots
697 [04:10:22] <_rubik> To beg for his ... HEY LOOK chroot worked
698 [04:10:26] <electricfuneral> so that people talk about it at
length after it's done and over. -_-
699 [04:10:26] <electricfuneral> just don't give them
attention
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709 [04:14:00] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: So I just mounted
/dev/sda2, chroot, and added my user to visudo.
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712 [04:14:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, you don't need to
visudo, there's a group there alreadyy
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714 [04:15:01] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: Actually there was not
715 [04:15:11] <jusss> how I can install openvpn v2.4+ on debian?
716 [04:15:16] <_rubik> Either way, I now have sudo privs, so I
can change things around should I need to.
717 [04:15:19] <jusss> it's v2.3 on the repo
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719 [04:16:18] <BenderRodriguez> compile from source or add a
newer repository to apt
720 [04:16:34] <BenderRodriguez> if they provide it and you trust
it
721 [04:17:04] <Eduard_Munteanu> jusss, Debian 9 (Stretch) has
OpenVPN 2.4
722 [04:17:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> jusss, it's also available
in jessie-backports
723 [04:18:21] <jmcnaught> jusss: are you trying to get a newer
openvpn because of a security issue, or for a new feature?
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727 [04:18:59] <jusss> jmcnaught: new feature, tls-crypt
728 [04:19:22] <jmcnaught> ,checkbackport openvpn
729 [04:19:23] <judd> Backporting package openvpn in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch, archignore.
730 [04:19:50] <jmcnaught> jusss: "/msg dpkg ssb" for
instructions on how to backport a package from unstable to stable
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733 [04:20:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> There's already a
backported package, unless you want 2.4.3 instead of just 2.4.0.
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736 [04:21:10] <jusss> how I update it?
737 [04:21:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> ,backports
738 [04:21:46] <Eduard_Munteanu> dpkg, backports
739 [04:21:46] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
replaced-url
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742 [04:22:14] <jmcnaught> oh i see i got my versions confused.
you could also upgrade to stretch
743 [04:22:51] <Eduard_Munteanu>
replaced-url
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745 [04:23:33] <jusss> deb
replaced-url
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747 [04:24:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Yeah, that should do.
748 [04:24:21] <jusss> thanks
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750 [04:25:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> Then after apt-get update,
install with apt-get install -t jessie-backports openvpn
751 [04:27:57] <jusss> ok
752 [04:28:10] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: and now for my favorite
task... nvidia drivers
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754 [04:28:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> _rubik, I would try nouveau
first
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766 [04:43:59] <jrmu> wow jigdo is fast
767 [04:43:59] <jrmu> :)
768 [04:43:59] <jrmu> I'm never downloading by http again
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789 [05:18:17] <_rubik> Eduard_Munteanu: Finally shifted over to
the new install. Thanks for the help
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812 [05:35:09] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. Will Stretch fit on a rw
CD-rom or do I need a rw DVD-rom for it?
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815 [05:35:41] <bazhang> the fullest install?
816 [05:35:48] <bazhang> why not net install
817 [05:35:49] <Hoolootwo> the netinstall will probably fit on a
cd
818 [05:36:00] <Hoolootwo> well, it will
819 [05:36:13] <bazhang> does your machine not usb boot?
820 [05:36:13] <Lady_Aleena> The computer has an internet
connection, so I think the netinstall would be okay.
821 [05:36:37] <Lady_Aleena> I don't have a spare USB drive.
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825 [05:37:39] <bazhang> usb stick, in case that was not clear
826 [05:37:43] <bazhang> not a hdd
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828 [05:38:09] <Lady_Aleena> USB drive/stick is the same thing to
me.
829 [05:38:16] <bazhang> heh
830 [05:38:28] <bazhang> I have some 500gb usb hdd
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832 [05:38:41] <bazhang> and the largest stick is 128
833 [05:38:45] <Lady_Aleena> I wish I could afford that.
834 [05:38:53] <bazhang> super cheapo
835 [05:39:02] <Lady_Aleena> How cheap?
836 [05:39:09] <bazhang> usb stick at 64gb is $25
837 [05:39:18] <Lady_Aleena> I meant the drive.
838 [05:39:36] <bazhang> less than a hundred
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841 [05:40:48] <Lady_Aleena> I wish I could just click install on
a web page and install Debian onto a computer without having to make
a disk for it. But I won't be dual booting the computer where I
am going to install it.
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848 [05:43:04] <Lady_Aleena> Hopefully YouTube videos will play
on that computer with Debian Stretch. Avast antivirus just updated
on that Windows XP computer and now videos won't play at all.
So I am going to try Debian on it.
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855 [05:45:36] <Lady_Aleena> Now to figure out what image to
download.
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860 [05:49:00] * Lady_Aleena head desks.
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862 [05:49:16] <Lady_Aleena> I don't know it the computer is
amd64 or i386.
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870 [05:53:28] <Lady_Aleena> Does anyone here know how to use K3b
to make an install disk for Debian? I haven't used it for that
yet, so don't know what I'm doing.
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873 [05:58:14] <monksam> Lady_Aleena:
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875 [06:00:00] <Lady_Aleena> Thanks monksam.
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904 [06:30:13] <password2> oh boy , I'll never get used to
how fast an ssd installs with packages
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912 [06:36:01] <password2> like 10 seconds for 90 packages
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thought i would ask here anyway: any way to increase the font size
of xterm post spawning the process?
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981 [07:55:39] <somiaj> sorry ctrl-right click
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984 [07:55:59] <somiaj> ctrl- right/middle/left click brings up
different menus in xterm
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1023 [08:08:10] <rk[ghost]> somiaj: ah, i always forget about
clicking (no mouse.. =P)
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1029 [08:11:08] <z8z> After debian 9 install all kate session
profiles are gone... how did they change the config files paths?
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1035 [08:12:31] <rk[ghost]> OK, got it working, but because i have
to do it all mangly, it causes a bunch of junk to be outputted to my
screen. need to figure out how to do this programatiicaly =P
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1072 [08:32:15] <trulu> jn
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1097 [08:41:32] <trulu> greetings friends and fruits
1098 [08:42:14] <trulu> Yesterday someone suggest me to do my
debootstrap on Debian VM instead of Ubuntu because I was getting
errors
1099 [08:42:30] <trulu> Today I tried again on Debian and I still
get the same errors
1100 [08:42:33] <trulu> I: Unpacking ucf... I: Unpacking
usbutils... I: Unpacking vim-common... I: Unpacking vim-tiny... I:
Unpacking xxd... I: Unpacking wget... I: Unpacking
libxapian30:arm64... W: Failure while installing base packages. This
will be re-attempted up to five times. W: See
//debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details (possibly the package
/var/cache/apt/archives/init_1.48_arm64.deb is at fault) W: Failure
while installing base packages. This wi
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1102 [08:44:13] <trulu> The project is on
replaced-url
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1105 [08:44:50] <trulu> When I try the jessie version of the same
project it goes through
1106 [08:45:33] <trulu> Running Windows with VirtualBox and Debian
Stretch VM
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1112 [08:49:04] <trulu> any thoughts on this issue ?
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1178 [09:18:09] <HBb_> hi, i have a problem when apt install a
"pkg". it download and install but clean
/var/cache/apt/archives/{"pkg","deps"}
1179 [09:18:39] <HBb_> APT::Clean-Installed "off";
don't fix this
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1193 [09:24:21] <solrize> can i update from wheezy to stretch by
dist-upgrade, or do i have to go through jessie first?
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1195 [09:25:06] <pclover> I have a question a package that existed
in debian 8 appears to be removed in debian 9 is there any way i
find out why?
1196 [09:25:09] <towo^work> i don't think wheezy =>
stretch would work
1197 [09:25:11] <pclover> In this case it's mingw32
1198 [09:25:14] <solrize> k
1199 [09:25:14] <somiaj> upgrade scripts are designed to only go
one release at a time, same with transition packages. You will want
to go through jessie
1200 [09:25:15] <solrize> thanks
1201 [09:25:19] <somiaj> solrize: ^^
1202 [09:25:27] <somiaj> pclover: what is the package name?
1203 [09:25:30] <solrize> yeah saw. backing off to jessie
1204 [09:25:31] <solrize> thanks
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1207 [09:25:40] <pclover> somiaj, mingw32
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1210 [09:27:22] <somiaj> pclover: it wasn't removed,
replaced-url
1211 [09:27:38] <somiaj> pclover: mingw32 was just a transition
package in jessie, so figure out what it transitioned too
1212 [09:27:52] <pclover> hum
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1215 [09:28:13] <shtrb> Is there a fast way to know if the
upstream patch for #867379 was applied to the current version in
debian ?
1216 [09:28:14] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
1217 [09:28:21] <somiaj> in jessie itwas just a transition
package, so install what it now depends on
replaced-url
1218 [09:28:33] <somiaj> seems like mingw32-binutils and other
stuff
1219 [09:28:47] <somiaj> shtrb: it would be in the changelog
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1221 [09:28:53] <shtrb> thanks
1222 [09:29:04] <pclover> which is also not found
1223 [09:29:08] <pclover> form apt-cache at least
1224 [09:29:17] <pclover> looking hum
1225 [09:29:43] <somiaj> sorry that is a transtiion package too,
gcc-mingw-w64-i686 and g++-mingw-w64-i686 might be the packages you
need.
1226 [09:29:50] <somiaj> just do a search for mingw, you'll
see lots of packages
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1228 [09:30:27] <pclover> yeah what i am looking for is
i586-mingw32msvc-gcc which that package provided
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1256 [09:49:01] <pclover> somiaj, i've installed like every
mingw package possible and still don't have what i need any
ideas?
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1259 [09:50:12] <qqumber> guys, I hate people?
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1261 [09:50:45] <somiaj> pclover: I don't know mingw so
unsure what it is you are doing or need. But the packages were
transition packages in jessie as the debian changed how it packaged
that software
1262 [09:51:07] <pclover> hum yeah reading that now
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1267 [09:52:03] <qqumber> pclover: I hate people that are better
than me, I want to kill them
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1276 [09:59:12] <pclover> tho i do see Drop mingw32 transitional
package in the changelog
1277 [09:59:13] <pclover> so hum
1278 [10:00:04] <trulu> greetings can someone tell me how to fix
these huge logs in debian
1279 [10:00:05] <trulu> Sent message type=method_call sender=n/a
destination=org.freedesktop.systemd1
object=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/docker_2eservice
interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=Get cookie=4
reply_cookie=0 error=n/a Sent message type=method_call sender=n/a
destination=org.freedesktop.systemd1
object=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/docker_2eservice
interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=Get cookie=5
reply_cookie=0 error=n/a
1280 [10:00:31] <joschakn> Hey, i want to install the i3wm on a
freshly installed debian 9 (stretch) System. I need at least i3 4.8.
Can anyone tell me why the jessie-repo(oldstable) repo contains
Version 4.8 and the stretch and buster repos sontain the old Version
4.13-1?
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1285 [10:01:46] <trulu> any idea ???????
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1288 [10:02:12] <shtrb> trulu , debugging enabled ?
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1290 [10:02:21] <trulu> how do I know that
1291 [10:02:24] <shtrb> *did you enable dbus debugging
1292 [10:02:28] <trulu> I just updated the kernel and then
1293 [10:02:35] <trulu> this showed up
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1295 [10:03:02] <trulu> How can I disable debugging ?
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1297 [10:03:26] <trulu> shtrb: ????
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1299 [10:04:01] <shtrb> trulu , If you didn't enable it
explicitly it is not what I thought , maybe debug-shell is active ?
1300 [10:04:09] <shtrb> systemctl status debug-shell
1301 [10:04:27] <shtrb> sorry wrong thing
1302 [10:04:45] <trulu> shtrb: Showing one
/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/debug_2dshell_2eservice Sent message
type=method_call sender=n/a destination=org.freedesktop.systemd1
object=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/debug_2dshell_2eservice
interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=GetAll cookie=1
reply_cookie=0 error=n/a ConditionPathExists 0 0 /dev/tty9 0 ●
debug-shell.service - Early root shell on /dev/tty9 FOR DEBUGGING
ONLY Loaded: loaded (/lib/
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1304 [10:05:09] <shtrb> Ignore , that is the wrong thing (it was a
brain fart)
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1306 [10:05:39] <trulu> shtrb: Lol brain fart you made my day
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1308 [10:06:14] <trulu> shtrb: First time I read that and it is
super funny
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1313 [10:10:18] <shtrb> tulu , did you setup SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL in
the environment ?
1314 [10:10:42] <shtrb> or kenrel have systemd.log_level=debug ?
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1322 [10:15:05] <shtrb> *trulu ?
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1335 [10:25:00] <Silmaril> joschakn: how come you think that 13 is
older than 8 ?
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1343 [10:28:17] <joschakn> allready got it. Somehow was really
confused.. Now it all makes sence ;)
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1353 [10:34:31] <solrize> is there a way to apt-get install a
specific package along with all the recommended and suggested
packages for it?
1354 [10:34:39] <solrize> or even to find out what they are again,
after the initial install?
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1361 [10:36:24] <aindilis> solrize: if you haven't heard,
there is a log in like /var/apt/cache or /var/lib/apt or something
1362 [10:36:27] <aindilis> that shows what was installed
1363 [10:36:34] <aindilis> maybe /var/log/apt
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1365 [10:36:55] <aindilis> as far as a specific package, I think
you mean like specific version
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1367 [10:37:00] <solrize> well i know what was installed, i'm
trying to find out the suggested stuff that wasn't installed
1368 [10:37:19] <aindilis> there is some command maybe like `sudo
apt-get install flp:2.2` or something
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1370 [10:37:23] <aindilis> flp=2.2 maybe
1371 [10:37:35] <solrize> to get a version?
1372 [10:37:40] <aindilis> yeah I think
1373 [10:37:49] <aindilis> there's also a way to specify
which repo to use
1374 [10:37:51] <aindilis> maybe -t/
1375 [10:37:51] <aindilis> ?
1376 [10:38:23] <aindilis> so you can take the package, extract it
using like ar or something, and open the data.tgz or something and
grab the control file, that tells the dependencies
1377 [10:38:32] <aindilis> you could then subtract to obtain the
list, idk?
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1379 [10:38:43] <aindilis> if you haven't solved this
tomorrow ping me and I will write a script
1380 [10:38:49] <aindilis> adougher9@yahoo.com
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1385 [10:39:14] <aindilis> pls let me know if this is what you
need or if you require further assistance
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1388 [10:39:43] <aindilis> I could be way off, ianae
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1404 [10:48:45] <trulu> shtrb: Sorry mate
1405 [10:48:58] <trulu> shtrb: I was bugged by something
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1408 [10:49:18] <trulu> how do i check the system logs
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1410 [10:49:49] <trulu> shtrb: The is no SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL
environment variable
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1415 [10:53:29] <OS-28490> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY mztkn
1416 [10:53:54] <petn-randall> OS-28490: You might want to change
your password.
1417 [10:54:02] <monksam> lol
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1419 [10:54:17] <aindilis> join us now and share the software
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1421 [10:54:35] <petn-randall> OS-28490: A good password is a mix
of upper and lower case letters and numbers.
1422 [10:54:40] <shtrb> *systemd.log kernel option
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1424 [10:55:09] <dgriffi> /msg nickserv identify
slartibartfasteatsdonuts
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1428 [10:56:45] <shtrb> petn-randall , a good password is
something that you can remember and is long enough (use passphrases
)
1429 [10:57:17] <monksam> Like wildothedildoman182
1430 [10:57:29] <shtrb> trulu , where did you get that kernel ?
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1433 [10:57:51] <aindilis> anyone have a script for recognizing
passwords based on their entropy in plain text files?
1434 [10:57:52] <trulu> from mainline 4.12 arm64
1435 [10:58:08] <tx> true hackers use a backspace in their
password
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1437 [10:58:10] <tx> :P
1438 [10:58:26] <trulu> shtrb:
replaced-url
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1440 [10:58:41] <Lowl3v3l> aindilis: "based on entropy"
is difficult. many people use passwords that are incredibly
unentropic ;)
1441 [10:58:52] <aindilis> well it doesn't have to be
complete
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1443 [10:58:57] <aindilis> it could just find the ones that
aren't
1444 [10:59:15] <Lowl3v3l> aindilis: though, you could just use a
wordlist, sort out everything that is in this and hope you dont
filter out passwords as well xD
1445 [10:59:41] <aindilis> well there are too many rare alleles to
make that feasible
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1447 [11:00:06] <aindilis> I have a named entity repo that is 94
gigabytes and it doesn't even include the acronym of the
project I've been working on for 17 years
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1449 [11:00:29] <aindilis> so I was thinking just computing the
entropy for differnet sized windows and detecting maxima
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1451 [11:00:45] <aindilis> I guess if a smaller window succeeded
it would extend the window
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1459 [11:04:43] <shtrb> trulu , that is not a debian package
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1465 [11:07:27] <qqbanevade> THIS IS MY TERRITORY! *PEES ALL OVER
THE PLACE* WOFF WOFF WOFF!
1466 [11:07:41] <shtrb> trulu , how did you add it in grub ?
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1468 [11:08:23] <Sayona> Hi, is a way to install php 5.6 on debian
9?
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1471 [11:09:31] <trulu> using u-boot
1472 [11:09:34] <trulu> on arm64
1473 [11:10:38] <Sayona> ?
1474 [11:10:43] <petn-randall> ,v php5
1475 [11:10:44] <judd> Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u8; jessie:
5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1
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1478 [11:11:35] <petn-randall> Sayona: No, stretch only ships with
PHP7.0. You can however still install jessie (8), it still receives
security support.
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1483 [11:12:42] <Sayona> petn-randall, where I find a tutorial?
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1486 [11:14:17] <trulu> shtrb: I'm using u-boot
1487 [11:14:25] <trulu> shtrb: For arm64 boards
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1490 [11:15:35] <petn-randall> !release notes
1491 [11:15:36] <dpkg> The release notes for Debian 9
"Stretch" are at
replaced-url
1492 [11:16:04] <petn-randall> Sayona:
replaced-url
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1494 [11:16:43] <petn-randall> !jessie install guide
1495 [11:16:44] <dpkg> The Installation Guide for Debian 8
"Jessie" can be found at
replaced-url
1496 [11:16:54] <petn-randall> Sayona: Also this here. ^^^
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1502 [11:19:37] <vap0r> hi all, im trying to install the newest
version of irssi from source and need libncurses5-dev.. but i keep
getting this error:
replaced-url
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1505 [11:21:00] <Sayona> I know how to install jessie :)
1506 [11:21:22] <Sayona> I want to use debian 9 with php 5.6
1507 [11:21:26] <Sayona> is not posible?
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1509 [11:21:51] <dgriffi> how would someone downgrade the kernel
in Debian 9 to 3.16?
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1512 [11:22:17] <trulu> shtrb: Are you there ?
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1516 [11:23:23] <shtrb> trulu , yes (reading about uboot)
1517 [11:23:37] <shtrb> trying to understand how you pass kernel
parms there
1518 [11:23:45] <dury> hi there channel :-)
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1521 [11:24:27] <shtrb> dgrifii , you can always download the
older package and repackage it (rebuild)
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1524 [11:25:06] <dgriffi> shtrb: I figured that... I was hoping to
find a guide or howto on the subject.,
1525 [11:25:15] <dury> as we are debian users what's the most
of smartphone to use android, IOs ....?
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1528 [11:26:10] <julius> hi
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1531 [11:26:31] <julius> i just installed the latest kernel and it
complained that it couldnt find the headers when running:
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms:
1532 [11:26:34] <julius> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel
4.11.0-1-amd64 cannot be found.
1533 [11:26:38] <dury> I mean better smartphone as Debian Linux
user?
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1535 [11:26:48] <julius> how do i rerun that step now that my
headers are there?
1536 [11:27:02] <petn-randall> Sayona: no
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1539 [11:27:11] <dury> that's debian offtopic isn't it?
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1541 [11:27:55] <petn-randall> Sayona: no, you can't use PHP
5.6 in stretch through official packages. You might be able to
install it via sources or 3rd party repos, but at that point
it's not supported in this channel any more.
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1543 [11:28:21] <Sayona> life is hard :)
1544 [11:28:23] <Sayona> thanks
1545 [11:28:28] <shtrb> dgriffi , apt-get source pkgname , and
rebuild using your favorite option (debuild -us -uc , fakeroot
debian/rules etc )
1546 [11:28:43] <dury> petn-randall, what do u think about?
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1552 [11:30:14] <petn-randall> !ask
1553 [11:30:14] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
1554 [11:30:20] <petn-randall> dury: ^^^
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1595 [11:43:14] <jrgingo> hi, I'm on a notebook and kernel
4.12 provided wireless support for it, but no distro has been
released with kernel 4.12 yet. What are my options if I want a
distro with kernel 4.12?
1596 [11:43:19] <trulu> shtrb: Anything helpful in docu ?
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1599 [11:45:35] <petn-randall> jrgingo: You can install a stock
Debian 9 and just build the kernel yourself. It involves unpacking
the linux 4.12 sources and running 'make deb-pkg', then
installing the .deb that gets built.
1600 [11:45:37] <colo-work> jrgingo, just use a distro you're
happy with and compile Linux yourself
1601 [11:45:40] <colo-work> it's pretty easy
1602 [11:45:43] <petn-randall> ,kernels
1603 [11:45:44] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-1-686
(4.11.6-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686
(4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686
(4.9.30-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2);
wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1);
wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae
1604 [11:45:45] <judd> (3.2.89-2)
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1606 [11:46:14] <qqbanevade> don't you just hate vloggers
that smugfully drink their smoothies and think that they're
important?
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1608 [11:47:13] <qqbanevade> sunglasses on, skirt, a tan, fixed
hair, hand bag and a smoothie and a smug smirk on their self
important faces as they push people away in their path as if they
were walking on a red carpet
1609 [11:47:15] <petn-randall> jrgingo: And at some point in the
future I'd just switch to the kernels in stretch-backports.
1610 [11:47:23] <jrgingo> would 4.12 work with debian 9 ? :o
1611 [11:47:25] <petn-randall> qqbanevade: Do you have a Debian
support question?
1612 [11:47:35] <hexhaxtron> Anyone interested in a free SSH
account running Debian 9 on a very powerful hardware?
1613 [11:47:52] <petn-randall> jrgingo: I haven't tested it
myself, but I expect it to work without problems.
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1616 [11:48:15] <dgriffi> hexhaxtron: I'd be interested in
the very powerful hardware... what are its specs?
1617 [11:48:57] <qqbanevade> petn-randall: they are not behaving
like citizens, they think that they stand over everybody else
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1620 [11:49:13] <hexhaxtron> dgriffi:
replaced-url
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1622 [11:49:38] <dgriffi> 404 not found
1623 [11:49:59] <petn-randall> qqbanevade: This is a Debian
support channel. Whatever you're talking about, it's
offtopic, so please keep quiet.
1624 [11:50:17] <hexhaxtron> You're right. Just a moment. I
broke the server trying to make PHP work.
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1630 [11:52:50] <hexhaxtron> dgriffi: can you try now?
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1632 [11:53:40] <dgriffi> interesting
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1634 [11:54:40] <hexhaxtron> dgriffi: you just need to choose a
username.
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1636 [11:55:03] <qqbanevade> petn-randall: seriously, they're
walking around and think that they're pretty and better than
everybody else. When they order fast food they have 0 idea of how
that burger was made. They get their money from adsense by blogging
about their smoothies and clothes that they've built. Suddenly
all teenagers wants to become bloggers
1637 [11:55:04] <dgriffi> ah.. I was just interested in the specs
of the machine. I've no need for a remote shell at this time
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1646 [11:56:07] <petn-randall> jelly: cheers.
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1648 [11:56:11] <dgriffi> looking at the stuff about downgrading a
kernel, what I find seems to assume downgrading to a different minor
release.
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1650 [11:56:40] <jelly> qqbanevade, this isn't the first time
you're pointed to #debian-offtopic; keep this channel for tech
support please
1651 [11:56:42] <dgriffi> I want to downgrade the 4.9 kernel in
Stretch to 3.16.
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1660 [12:01:02] <sobczyk> is it safe to dist-upgrade jessie to
stretch in chroot? I want to use policy-rc.d 101 and not have to
worry with restarting services and have an option to fast restore
the previous system from lvm snapshot
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1663 [12:03:51] <jelly> dgriffi, so just reboot into the jessie
kernel?
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1665 [12:04:09] <dgriffi> jelly: I did that and I'm nowhere
nearer to solving my underlying problem
1666 [12:04:35] <dgriffi> jelly: there's some yet unknown
difference between Jessie and Stretch such that dosemu works on
Jessie, but not Stretch
1667 [12:05:15] <dgriffi> jelly: on Jessie, I successfully ran
dosemu using the 3.16 and 4.9 kernels
1668 [12:05:41] <dgriffi> jelly: I'm trying to provide more
info on bug #866965
1669 [12:05:43] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1673 [12:07:46] <pancakes> i like P4NC4K3S
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1675 [12:07:59] <pancakes> so yummmy
1676 [12:07:59] <dgriffi> jelly: nobody has commented on it yet
and I'm trying to coax someone to do so by providing more info
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1678 [12:08:16] <jelly> dgriffi, so it's not the kernel
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1680 [12:08:49] * jelly thought dosemu died a decade ago
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1687 [12:09:22] <dgriffi> jelly: one would think so... but there
were identical symptoms reported in bug #797378 and the culprit was
a kernel bug.
1688 [12:09:24] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
1689 [12:09:48] <dgriffi> jelly: dosemu has indeed stagnated.
that's why someone came up with dosemu2 and is actively
developing it.
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1692 [12:10:09] <jelly> it relied heavily on hardware access
1693 [12:11:05] <dgriffi> ultimately I'm on this dosemu
adventure so I can debug a problem with the DOS version of Frotz
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1696 [12:11:45] <dgriffi> I thought I could just use DOS within
Virtualbox, but I can't get networking to work within it... nor
can I get it to share drives or directories
1697 [12:12:12] <dgriffi> dosbox works, but the bug I'm
trying to squash will only manifest on real hardware, dosemu, or
virtualbox
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1702 [12:14:31] <tx> you probably can
1703 [12:14:32] <tx> but
1704 [12:14:37] <tx> you need to select a different network
adapter
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1706 [12:17:02] <dgriffi> tx: are you referring to my problem with
dos and virtualbox?
1707 [12:17:10] <tx> yes :)
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1711 [12:18:14] <tx> dgriffi: in virtualbox you can select which
network card to 'emulate'
1712 [12:18:52] <tx> One of the PCnet ones will likely suffice,
perhaps the 10meg one.
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1715 [12:19:28] <dgriffi> tx: no... that's not the problem.
I'm seeing the vboxed DOS machine showing up in the samba logs
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1718 [12:19:56] <dgriffi> hmm... "no such user"???
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1721 [12:20:35] <tx> dgriffi: Oh I see. Is samba configured to
support those ancient protocols?
1722 [12:20:59] <dgriffi> yes... I'm thinking now that samba
has a different idea of what users are allowed than /etc/passwd does
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1724 [12:21:31] <tx> you may need to set up a samba user using
smbpasswd
1725 [12:21:46] <tx> (it is different than your shadow / linux
password)
1726 [12:21:51] <jolt> Yeah, samba has it's own passwd db,
smbpasswd -a <user>
1727 [12:21:56] <tx> aye
1728 [12:22:12] <jolt> You can hook it into other pw auth systems
like pam, ldap etc if you want though
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1730 [12:23:17] <dgriffi> hmm... getting somewhere. now I'm
recognized, but not allowed to access the share
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1750 [12:33:08] <dgriffi> hmm... here's a big problem...
samaba isn't saving its password file anywhere
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1790 [12:56:06] <Mr_NodeKit> Anyone willing to help with a
project?
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1792 [12:56:23] <hiya> Mr_NodeKit, sure? What is it about?
1793 [12:56:39] <Mr_NodeKit> Do you have Kali Linux ?
1794 [12:56:57] <jelly> !kali
1795 [12:56:57] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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1809 [13:07:18] <shtrb> dgriffi , did you get my message about
kernel handbook and package rebuilt ?
1810 [13:07:29] <dgriffi> shtrb: nope
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1820 [13:14:39] <shtrb> dgriffi ,
replaced-url
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1838 [13:23:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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1855 [13:35:44] <Mr_NodeKit> ayy lmao
1856 [13:35:54] <tsarompy> ayyy
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1863 [13:38:34] <no_gravity> Hello! How do you check which version
of a software comes with Debian 9?
1864 [13:38:52] <tsarompy> look it up in synaptic
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1866 [13:39:00] <tsarompy> i cant remember the command for apt off
the bat
1867 [13:39:04] <tsarompy> but synaptic will tell you
1868 [13:39:07] <petn-randall> no_gravity: You can look it up on
replaced-url
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1870 [13:39:20] <tsarompy> oh derp i thought you meant what
version is installed
1871 [13:39:20] <tsarompy> my bad
1872 [13:39:44] <no_gravity> Yup, I don't have D9. I have D8.
Just want to see which version of MySql is in D9.
1873 [13:39:51] <tsarompy> hang on
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1875 [13:40:11] <no_gravity> petn-randall: the link is for Debian
9? And then how do I search?
1876 [13:40:19] <at0m> no_gravity: apt show $package has the
version, too. or $app --version
1877 [13:40:25] <tsarompy> 5.5.9999
1878 [13:40:31] <tsarompy> ^ version
1879 [13:40:47] <petn-randall> no_gravity: At least click on the
link before asking.
1880 [13:40:47] <no_gravity> Uh, that sounds old. MySql did not
have JSON fields then.
1881 [13:40:54] <no_gravity> petn-randall: I am on the link.
1882 [13:41:01] <tsarompy> thats for mysql-client
1883 [13:41:04] <tsarompy> any specific package?
1884 [13:41:14] <no_gravity> petn-randall: I tried putting
"mysql" in the seach field on the upper right.
1885 [13:41:15] <tsarompy> mysql-server as well
1886 [13:41:22] <no_gravity> petn-randall: But that returned .. I
don't know what.
1887 [13:41:33] <tsarompy> mysql-server/stable,stable
5.5.9999+default amd64
1888 [13:41:36] <no_gravity> tsarompy: Yeah, I meant the server.
1889 [13:41:56] <petn-randall> no_gravity: Yeah, it's because
you made zero attempt to read what's on the page.
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1891 [13:42:07] <tsarompy> if you want something newer you could
always install stretch and dist-upgrade to buster (:
1892 [13:42:09] <petn-randall> no_gravity: That link will search
the complete site, not the package directory.
1893 [13:42:23] <petn-randall> no_gravity: The search window in
the top right that is.
1894 [13:42:44] <no_gravity> tsarompy: Can you find it on
debian.org?
1895 [13:42:51] <no_gravity> tsarompy: I found this:
replaced-url
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1897 [13:43:15] <no_gravity> tsarompy: But that seems to show the
version of MariaDB?
1898 [13:43:19] <tsarompy> ask and ye shall receive
1899 [13:43:21] <tsarompy>
replaced-url
1900 [13:43:34] <tsarompy> ya i dunno what that other package is
1901 [13:43:44] <no_gravity> tsarompy: How did you find that one?
1902 [13:43:44] <petn-randall> tsarompy: hint, mysql isn't
even shipped in stretch and newer.
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1904 [13:44:06] <tsarompy> then what am i lookin at
1905 [13:44:16] <tsarompy> and why are you like
1906 [13:44:20] <tsarompy> aggro
1907 [13:44:30] <afidegnum> hi, using the unhide method is not
helping recover sandboxed files on my MMC.. i can see they occupied
some spaces but i can't see them... what's the best tool
to recover them? using the undelete feature also didn't help
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1909 [13:45:14] <petn-randall> afidegnum: What do you mean with
sandboxed files?
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1911 [13:45:27] <afidegnum> that's what i can say so far
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1917 [13:46:03] <afidegnum> when you look at the disk properties
you see there huge space occupie
1918 [13:46:07] <afidegnum> occupied,
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1921 [13:46:31] <afidegnum> .5
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1925 [13:47:48] <petn-randall> afidegnum: What are you trying to
do? You accidentally deleted files and you're trying to recover
them?
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1931 [13:49:23] <petn-randall> afidegnum: Or do you want to free
up space on the MMC?
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1933 [13:49:40] <afidegnum> no, i used an applyno
1934 [13:49:42] <afidegnum> no
1935 [13:49:52] <afidegnum> i used an app to recover audio files
1936 [13:50:12] <afidegnum> and when i wanted to retrieve them
back i can't get hold of the files
1937 [13:50:29] <afidegnum> i can see a huge space occuped but no
file on sight
1938 [13:50:40] <afidegnum> i try to unhide them but no success
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the command line commands you run and the output you get.
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2013 [14:31:38] <pvdp> sypher: it took me a bit longer than
expected but I got my 12-disk RAID6 array working. I ended up using
a separate RAID1 array non-LVM for /boot and put the rest in another
RAID6 array with LVM.
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2017 [14:33:00] <jelly> pvdp, that's probably the sanest
setup
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2019 [14:33:27] <jelly> hope you have a hot spare!
2020 [14:33:36] <pvdp> It just wouldn't boot with just 1
RAID6 array+LVM even with boot partition on every disk as suggested.
Weird thing though is that I did a simular install with 5 disks
using KVM and it all worked straight away.
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2023 [14:34:36] <pvdp> So not sure why with the real thing it
didn't work although apparently for grub it should be possible
(as proven with kvm)
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2206 [14:44:19] <simbalion> Is Nginx 1.13.3 going to be backported
for Debian 9 soon?
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2208 [14:44:30] <petn-randall> ,v nginx
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2210 [14:44:32] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 -- wheezy-security:
1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy-backports:
1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u4; jessie-security:
1.6.2-5+deb8u4; sid: 1.10.1-1; jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1~bpo8+1;
stretch: 1.10.3-1; buster: 1.13.1-2; sid: 1.13.1-2
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2213 [14:44:41] <celyr> means no
2214 [14:45:03] <petn-randall> simbalion: It has to be in testing
before it's considered for backporting.
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2222 [14:45:42] <simbalion> Since there was a security
vulnerability discovered a few days ago which affects up to 1.13.2,
shouldn't it be?
2223 [14:45:48] <celyr> no
2224 [14:45:59] <celyr> fix will be cherry picked and pushed into
all version
2225 [14:45:59] <celyr> s
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2231 [14:46:15] <celyr> simbalion, can you please link me the cve
?
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2236 [14:46:31] <simbalion> celyr: one moment
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2241 [14:46:51] <simbalion> celyr:
replaced-url
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2245 [14:47:35] <celyr> seems very low severity one, also you have
a workaround for free
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2251 [14:48:07] <simbalion> Yeah re-reading it it does seem low
severity, when I read it the first time after being up for 18 hours
it seemed more serious ;)
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2253 [14:48:17] <celyr>
replaced-url
2254 [14:48:19] <simbalion> Thanks for your help
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2256 [14:48:50] <guavas> hello everyone. I'm trying to
install a program with wine and I have an error: This application
require Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0. I have openjodk-8-jre
installed, how comes it's not seen as correct java runtime
environment?
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2259 [14:49:04] <celyr> except a patched version back to wheezy :)
2260 [14:49:04] <simbalion> ooh I should start using that website
instead of bothering folks in here. Thanks again
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2262 [14:49:29] <tremolo> guavas: You will need to install the
Windows version of Java in WINE.
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2264 [14:49:57] <guavas> tremolo, ah, ok, my first time using
wine, thanks!
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2266 [14:50:41] <FinalX> they consider it medium severity, and
setting max_ranges to 1 as work-around isn't exactly wonderful
either. the patch is trivial, though.. but we're now using
nginx.org repos for most servers, apart from one that requires a
module that comes with debian repo but not nginx.org's :)
(auth_pam)
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2280 [14:59:44] <Mr_NodeKit> ...
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2283 [15:00:01] <tremolo> sure
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2290 [15:02:04] <pclov3r> i have a cmake question which may people
may know here. It's possible to have multiple CMakeList.txt
files and specify which you want via the command line?
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2292 [15:02:16] <The_Iron_12> arp-scan
2293 [15:02:16] <celyr> FinalX, Well that depends largely on what
website is running, I'm running an affected version
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2295 [15:02:22] <celyr> and I think I'll let it run
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2301 [15:03:50] <FinalX> celyr: to each his own; most were running
nginx.org mainline already anyway, there's a few that are
insanely outdated (debian old stables), and there's some that
run a custom compile that I had to rebuild as well :)
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2303 [15:04:35] <hicks__> pclov3r: I'm not aware of a way to
do that and a quick look through the man page didn't suggest
it's supported. Although I imaging you could achieve similar by
having a single main CMakeList.txt that includes various others
based on a defined parameter on the cmd line.
2304 [15:05:02] <hicks__> Prob best to ask on a cmake
forum/mailing list though just in case.
2305 [15:05:08] <celyr> FinalX, well it seems that nginx is part
of your core business so yeah, you should compile it by your own
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2308 [15:05:30] <FinalX> running debian's stable nginx makes
sense for companies that have strict feature-documentation for
projects, but it makes little sense otherwise. mainline repository
is mroe stable that the stable line, too. it's what's used
for their commercial version first.
2309 [15:05:53] <FinalX> yeah, there's ~20k sites running on
the custom build :)
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2311 [15:06:25] <celyr> I'm using it to serve a website with
like 60 unique visits day and a reverse proxy
2312 [15:07:11] <celyr> so yeah, I keep the debian's stable
just to avoid the maintenance
2313 [15:07:13] <pclov3r> hicks__, thanks
2314 [15:07:43] <FinalX> I doubt this can be exploited in any
regular setting, because it's pretty much only possible if you
have a module that's buggy and isn't on nginx.org's
list (they checked them). But if it had been exploitable, automatic
scanners won't discriminate between a host running 1 site with
5 visitors a day, or one that's doing millions.
2315 [15:08:07] <FinalX> but yeah, feature-wise there's no
reason not to
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2319 [15:09:00] <celyr> Maybe I didn't got the extent of this
but, even if I do get exploited I think they will get nothing ?
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2323 [15:09:30] <pclov3r> hicks__, perhaps there is maybe a
betteer way or something. Building software for different platforms
using cmake
2324 [15:09:44] <pclov3r> an it needs different options configured
2325 [15:09:51] <FinalX> celyr: the vulnerability is so that they
can get data from other things that they'd normally possibly
have access to
2326 [15:10:31] <hicks__> different platforms as in different
versions of linux, win, mac etc? if so there's ways to do that
already in CMake, check their website + docs for that one.
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2328 [15:10:54] <pclov3r> cross compiling to windows and it has
external projects too
2329 [15:11:02] <pclov3r> which are deps
2330 [15:11:09] <celyr> FinalX, yeah so I really don't get it
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2345 [15:17:10] <dury> hi there channel :-)
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2366 [15:25:57] <r3> On Thursday night, 21:40 PM CST, it will be
exactly 1.5 billion seconds since Jan 1, 1970 UT, the Unix EPOCH. At
that instant, billions of Linux and Unix computers and devices,
everywhere on the planet, will all return time() == 1500000000. It
will not be until 2033 when that number reaches 2 Billion.
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2368 [15:26:54] <shtrb> real fun will be in 2038
2369 [15:26:54] <r3> I like large strings of zeros, so I thought
I'd point that out :)
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2372 [15:27:57] <neglesaks> Thank you for that info *<:)
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2397 [15:42:05] <mr__tea> is there any easy way to upgrade a 32bit
system to 64bit?
2398 [15:42:21] <greycat> No.
2399 [15:42:40] <greycat> The only supported answer is a full
reinstall, and any attempt to "crossgrade" is at your own
risk.
2400 [15:43:02] <petn-randall> mr__tea: Clean way is to reinstall.
There's a hacky way, but it involves 20+ steps and chances are
high that your system is unbootable if you make a mistake.
2401 [15:43:49] <tremolo> Clean install, copy configs, reuse /home
2402 [15:44:23] <mr__tea> allright thanks guys
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2405 [15:46:54] <mr__tea> petn-randall: I came back some hacky
ways on google indeed
2406 [15:46:54] <mr__tea> :)
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2408 [15:47:29] <petn-randall> mr__tea: Indeed. IMHO it's
better to reinstall though, less work in the long run.
2409 [15:48:08] <z10> Hi :) I'm new to all of this and I have
issues with fail2ban. I can change the bantime in jail.conf but
whenever I change the maxretry it just doesnt care. I restart the
service and it is stated that my maxretry is set to 6 even tho
.local is set to 2
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2412 [15:50:07] <eacces> i'm just going to engage in a minor
rant: fail2ban is kind of pointless if you either a: use decent
passwords, b: disable password auth
2413 [15:50:46] <petn-randall> eacces: fail2ban does far more than
just protect SSH.
2414 [15:50:57] <abrotman> It makes eggs!
2415 [15:51:18] <z10> I have a 21 letters password, should be
good.
2416 [15:51:22] <petn-randall> eacces: And I doubt many of your
websites use TLS client authentication.
2417 [15:51:23] <tremolo> Well, that's neat.
2418 [15:51:37] <eacces> fair point :)
2419 [15:52:10] <petn-randall> z10: Good to know, that minimizes
the brute force space to scan quite a bit.
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2421 [15:52:47] <z10> petn-randall, true I should probably not
mention that I guess :P
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2423 [15:53:06] <z10> still, i'd say it would take
"some"t time
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2425 [15:53:51] * eacces glances at the CVEs for fail2ban...
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2427 [15:54:45] <eacces> it's about what you'd expect.
allowing attackers to get arbitrary things blocked
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2431 [15:56:01] <petn-randall> Only if the regexes are crappy.
They fixed those in recent releases. The tracker of doom is probably
wrong here.
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2433 [15:56:24] <superburek> debian for web development.
pros/cons?
2434 [15:56:50] <petn-randall> superburek: yes
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2436 [15:57:21] <superburek> what are pros/cons?
2437 [15:57:40] <petn-randall> !tell superburek -about smart
questions
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2439 [15:58:37] <tremolo> Well, pros/cons are a list of things
that are good and bad about something. Advantages and disadvantages
to using Debian for web development in this case.
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2443 [15:59:29] <superburek> i'm asking what are pros and
cons of debian in web development
2444 [15:59:32] <superburek> simple question
2445 [15:59:46] <superburek> maybe old firefox packages and stuff
like that
2446 [15:59:46] <tremolo> Sorry, that was unclear.
2447 [15:59:55] <greycat> It's too open-ended for us to
answer. What do you mean by "web development"?
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2449 [16:00:07] <superburek> html/css/js
2450 [16:00:09] <petn-randall> superburek: Your question is so
vague it's not answerable in this form. Web development of
what? Are you writing server side code? Python? PHP? perl? Or
Javascript/Coffeescript?
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2452 [16:00:19] <greycat> Debian includes the "ESR"
releases of firefox.
2453 [16:00:25] <greycat> ,v firefox-esr
2454 [16:00:26] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie:
45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 45.9.0esr-1;
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1;
wheezy-security: 52.2.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-security:
52.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-security: 52.2.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster:
52.2.0esr-2; sid: 52.2.0esr-2
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2457 [16:00:36] <superburek> let's say front end
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2459 [16:00:46] <petn-randall> superburek: And what are you
comparing it to?
2460 [16:00:59] <eacces> con: you'll be the only one at the
conference without a macbook pro
2461 [16:01:02] <petn-randall> superburek: In 95% of the case
I'd say stick with the tools you're used to.
2462 [16:01:09] <superburek> ahahaha eacces
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2464 [16:01:20] <superburek> no apple fan here :D
2465 [16:01:52] <superburek> just wanna know your guys opinions
are there any cons, that you or others may consider them cons
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2469 [16:02:27] <eacces> debian is at least as good as any linux
distro, or *BSD, for what you want. the only real con i can think of
is how one tests against the windows only browsers
2470 [16:02:29] <superburek> its not about tools, but rather about
the distro itself. would debian limit you in web dev
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2472 [16:03:21] <superburek> isnt the only windows only browser -
exporer/edge?
2473 [16:03:29] <superburek> explorer*
2474 [16:03:35] <petn-randall> superburek: I don't have the
feeling you pondered this question for long before asking.
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2476 [16:03:40] <greycat> You're the web developer. You tell
us.
2477 [16:03:53] <superburek> i'm not, i just wanna know
2478 [16:04:03] <greycat> Annnnd we run into the first problem.
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2483 [16:04:53] <superburek> i just want to know can/would debian,
in any way, share or form limit you in web development
2484 [16:05:12] <petn-randall> superburek: Not actively doing web
development, I'd say the underlying OS is largely irrelevant
regarding what you can and can't do. It's just a matter of
how accustomed you are to the OS's tools.
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2486 [16:05:32] <superburek> that's what i want to know
2487 [16:05:35] <superburek> thanks for your input
2488 [16:06:14] <petn-randall> Oh wait, I actually did some Django
web development on my last project, so scratch the first part of my
first sentence.
2489 [16:06:34] <tremolo> There are many text editors packaged for
Debian.
2490 [16:07:05] <superburek> there's a free django book on
packtpub atm, petn
2491 [16:07:44] <superburek> i use vs code, nice text editor
2492 [16:07:46] <teraflops> nvim is in stretch thanks $DEITY
2493 [16:07:50] <teraflops> neovim^
2494 [16:07:53] <shtrb> superburek , IE + Edge
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2496 [16:08:21] <shtrb> And they behave differently and can have
differnt running modes
2497 [16:09:18] <superburek> yeah, i understand that. i'm
trying to learn web development and i read somewhere that all
browsers have different "engines" i guess
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2500 [16:11:09] <shtrb> not only engines , IE 11 will behave
differently than Edge and even IE 11 is very differnet from IE 6
compatible mode
2501 [16:11:48] <shtrb> s/IE 6//g
2502 [16:12:01] <eacces> ^this is why i avoided anything to do
with website frontends (:
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2504 [16:12:32] <superburek> :|
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2513 [16:19:30] <fourhundred> I am installing Debian Stretch,
booting via PXE from my ftfp server, using the official
"netboot" debian image
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2515 [16:20:02] <fourhundred> what and wg=here do i have to
change, so that the Debian installer does not rename eth0 to
something insane
2516 [16:20:08] <fourhundred> like "enp11s0f0"
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2518 [16:21:16] <tsarompy> ive noticed that since systemd
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2520 [16:21:55] <greycat>
replaced-url
2521 [16:22:00] <fourhundred> I have tried adding
"net.ifnames=0" to APPEND on the tftp server, but that
does not help
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2523 [16:22:38] <tsarompy>
replaced-url
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2525 [16:24:04] <fourhundred> greycat, your link does not mention
anything relevant about installing from tftp
2526 [16:24:23] <fourhundred> or installing at all
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2528 [16:24:29] <greycat> *plonk*
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2536 [16:26:23] <lazarus477> Is it ok/safe to skip a release when
upgrading to a newer release?
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2545 [16:26:54] <greycat> No. You can only upgrade one release at
a time.
2546 [16:27:01] <BluesKaj> not on debian lazarus477
2547 [16:27:27] <lazarus477> Thanks guys, that was what I needed
to know.
2548 [16:27:45] <BluesKaj> you can with 'buntu LTS to LTS
releases
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2550 [16:29:29] <lazarus477> Okie
2551 [16:29:56] <lazarus477> Well I am on Deb Wheezy LTS. But
there appears to be no new LTS, so...
2552 [16:30:11] <lazarus477> Either way. I will go from 7, to 8
and then 9.
2553 [16:30:14] <greycat> jessie isn't old enough to need LTS
yet. It's still in full support jomde.mode.
2554 [16:30:21] <lazarus477> Yup
2555 [16:30:25] <greycat> wow, this keyboard... :(
2556 [16:30:33] <lazarus477> But I desire a newer version of cups
on this box.
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2558 [16:31:05] <lazarus477> No big deal if this box blows up
either. Nothing critical on it.
2559 [16:31:05] <greycat> In the Debian universe, LTS means that
the release is only *partially* supported, no longer fully
supported, but not yet abandoned.
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2561 [16:31:21] <lazarus477> Gotcha
2562 [16:31:26] <greycat> Wheezy (Debian 7) is currently in LTS,
for a couple more years.
2563 [16:31:30] <greycat> !wheezy lts
2564 [16:31:30] <dpkg> Security support for Debian 7
"Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on
2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive
additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until
2018-05-31. See
replaced-url
2565 [16:31:37] <greycat> Make that one more year.
2566 [16:32:25] <greycat> Stretch was just released last month, so
jessie (Debian 8) will go from full support to LTS support in ~11
months.
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2576 [16:36:56] <Devastator> getting a few "Failed to execute
operation: Connection timed out" while upgrading from jessie to
stretch, should I worry?
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2579 [16:37:15] <greycat> If it's during package downloads,
you can always retry those.
2580 [16:37:24] <greycat> If it's during something else, then
yeah, I'd be a bit worried.
2581 [16:37:51] <Devastator> greycat it is during something else,
like package setup, it started after trying to upgrade lvm2
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2583 [16:38:04] <greycat> iscsi devices?
2584 [16:38:21] <Devastator> greycat not really, just a regular
sata hdd
2585 [16:38:47] <greycat> No idea what connectdion it's
talking about, then?
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2587 [16:39:25] <Devastator> greycat it seems related to systemd
as per here:
replaced-url
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2590 [16:40:28] <petn-randall> ,v systemd
2591 [16:40:29] <judd> Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy:
44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports:
204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u7; jessie-backports:
230-7~bpo8+2; stretch: 232-25; sid: 233-10; buster: 233-10
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2596 [16:41:48] <petn-randall> Devastator: *where* are you getting
these errors from? "Connection timed out" can apply to
pretty much any daemon/tool/whatever during the upgrade.
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2602 [16:42:53] <Devastator> petn-randall it doesn't specify,
but it happened during my apt-get dist-upgrade after apt-get upgrade
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2604 [16:43:25] <petn-randall> Devastator: Can you paste (some of)
the logs?
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2609 [16:44:35] <Devastator> petn-randall does this help?
replaced-url
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2611 [16:44:37] <Devastator> opss
2612 [16:44:39] <Devastator> petn-randall does this help?
replaced-url
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2614 [16:45:35] <Devastator> just got bash back after: W:
Operation was interrupted before it could finish
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2616 [16:45:49] <petn-randall> Devastator: Hmm, anything in the
release notes about it?
2617 [16:46:03] <BluesKaj> my printer stopped working since I
upgraded to stretch from jessie, apparently HP hasn't upgraded
their printer drivers to stretch yet. I should have checked that
before upgrading :/
2618 [16:47:05] <Devastator> petn-randall doesn't seem like
it, well I just ran apt-get -f install again and it seems to be
going
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2623 [16:48:01] <mtn> BluesKaj: I had to use the cups interface to
get my printer working in stretch. the hptool did not work for me
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2625 [16:48:04] <Devastator> talked too soon, stopped again
2626 [16:48:26] <petn-randall> Devastator: Does running
'systemctl' show you any stopped/failed services?
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2629 [16:49:05] <Devastator> petn-randall let me open a new shell,
one sec
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2637 [16:49:48] <BluesKaj> mtn, cups does see my network printer,
but it just won't print
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2640 [16:50:09] <mtn> BluesKaj: printing is always so much fun :p
2641 [16:50:30] <Devastator> petn-randall:
root@morpheu:/home/fggs# systemctl
2642 [16:50:30] <Devastator> Failed to list units: Activation of
org.freedesktop.systemd1 timed outroot@morpheu:/home/fggs#
2643 [16:50:33] <Devastator> opss
2644 [16:50:35] <mtn> BluesKaj: did you try the hplip tool, as
well?
2645 [16:51:08] <BluesKaj> yes
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2653 [16:55:01] <BluesKaj> mtn, the hplip-tool doesn't exist
in the stretch repos ..must be thinking about jessie
2654 [16:55:24] <mtn> BluesKaj: is the package name hplip-gui?
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2659 [16:56:48] <aksis> can i get aptitude to download from a
source which is not in my sources.list?
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2661 [16:57:03] <petn-randall> aksis: no
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2663 [16:58:51] <BluesKaj> mtn, installed the gui , and the
HP-Toolbox shows up in the applications menu
2664 [16:59:25] <mtn> BluesKaj: it might work better than cups. it
has for me in the past
2665 [17:00:09] <BluesKaj> mtn, yeah I'll give the HP Toolbox
a try ...again
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2674 [17:02:24] <Math__> Hello, with debian 9 stretch at startup,
I have this error message: Failed to connect to lvmetad, failling
back to device scanning.
2675 [17:02:27] <Math__> The boot process works fine after typing
my password
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2677 [17:02:55] <Math__> I did not have this problem with Jessie
2678 [17:02:59] <petn-randall> Math__: That message is purely
cosmetic and informational.
2679 [17:03:38] <petn-randall> Math__: lvmetad is used if you have
hundreds of PVs to speed up LVM operations.
2680 [17:03:39] <Math__> 35/5000
2681 [17:03:39] <Math__> Ok I do not pay attention so
2682 [17:04:00] <Math__> thank you petn-randall
2683 [17:04:07] <petn-randall> Math__: you're welcome
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2695 [17:09:20] <sparky4> i cannot resume from suspend >< i
recently upgraded to stretch and when i suspended my laptop it will
not resume ><
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2697 [17:09:45] <petn-randall> sparky4: What happens when you try
to resume?
2698 [17:10:13] <BluesKaj> hmmm, the HP-Toolbox doesm't see
the network printer
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2701 [17:12:16] <celyr> ,v ntp
2702 [17:12:17] <judd> Package: ntp on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u7;
jessie-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u2; jessie:
1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u2; stretch: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3; sid:
1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-5; buster: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-5
2703 [17:12:28] <celyr> no jessie backports
2704 [17:12:29] <celyr> damn
2705 [17:12:44] <petn-randall> celyr: You can always backport it
yourself.
2706 [17:12:57] * celyr flees screaming
2707 [17:13:10] <greycat> not always, but...
2708 [17:13:24] <petn-randall> ,checkbackport ntp
2709 [17:13:30] <judd> Backporting package ntp in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch, virtual.
2710 [17:13:32] <greycat> ,checkbackport ntp --fromrelease stretch
--torelease jessie
2711 [17:13:33] <judd> Backporting package ntp in
stretch→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie, virtual.
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2713 [17:13:45] <petn-randall> Oh, right
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2716 [17:16:10] <celyr> well
2717 [17:16:18] <celyr> I'm sorry but this was a bit expected
:P
2718 [17:16:31] <celyr> I don't even think ntp has
requirements
2719 [17:16:40] <celyr> *dependencies
2720 [17:17:05] <petn-randall> It surely requires some ancient
libc6 as build dependency.
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2723 [17:17:35] <greycat> Heh. Well, if there are few
dependencies, then the build will be easy.
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2729 [17:20:05] <sparky4> petn-randall: the machine sits there
2730 [17:20:24] <sparky4> petn-randall: i cannot alt+ctrl+f(1-6)
2731 [17:20:31] <petn-randall> sparky4: Blank screen? Any errors?
2732 [17:20:35] <sparky4> just black screen
2733 [17:20:43] <sparky4> no error screen is blank
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2735 [17:21:01] <petn-randall> sparky4: What laptop model is that?
2736 [17:21:09] <sparky4> Thinkpad t440p
2737 [17:21:20] <petn-randall> sparky4: Do you mean suspend to
disk or suspend to RAM?
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2739 [17:21:46] <sparky4> ram suspend
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2742 [17:22:25] <petn-randall> sparky4: I see. If you have a
second machine, I'd check if you can still reach the laptop via
ping/SSH. Maybe you can even find something in the system logs.
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2745 [17:25:12] <will__> hello everyone
2746 [17:25:22] <will__> i just ran apt upgrade
2747 [17:25:29] <will__> ended with this output:
2748 [17:25:31] <will__> dpkg: error processing package
google-cloud-sdk (--configure):
2749 [17:25:31] <will__> subprocess installed post-installation
script returned error exit status 137
2750 [17:25:31] <will__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an
error code (1)
2751 [17:25:32] <dpkg> will__: That isn't an error, post the
whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
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2753 [17:25:34] <petn-randall> !paste
2754 [17:25:34] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
2755 [17:25:40] <petn-randall> !bat
2756 [17:25:41] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2759 [17:25:55] <celyr> Penix, Ok I'm building the backport
2760 [17:25:55] <petn-randall> will__: Don't paste into the
channel. Can you provide the info in the dpkg message above? ^^^
2761 [17:26:04] <sparky4> petn-randall: i was actually planning on
doing that specifically
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2763 [17:26:26] <celyr> petn-randall, it was meant for you
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2765 [17:27:03] <petn-randall> sparky4: Usually thinkpads work
pretty fine. Sometimes nvidia/amd graphics make trouble, especially
the bumblebee hybrid graphics setup.
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2769 [17:27:20] <towo`> will__, there is no google-cloud-sdk in
debian, so wrong channel
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2774 [17:27:55] <sparky4> petn-randall: ah i got that!
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2779 [17:28:43] <will__> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2782 [17:29:16] <towo`> [17:27:19] <towo`> will__, there is
no google-cloud-sdk in debian, so wrong channel
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2785 [17:29:40] <will__> towo`: I'm not sure about that man.
I'm running debian 9 chosen from a google cloud platform distro
list.
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2788 [17:29:57] <will__> and i didnt get that error last time i
did upgrade a couple days ago
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2792 [17:30:11] <towo`> will__,
replaced-url
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2794 [17:30:32] <Walakea> what is the difference between
/media/<me>/<device> and /dev/sdX ?
2795 [17:30:39] <towo`> it's from google, so ask them
2796 [17:30:41] <will__> would it be available for jessie then?
2797 [17:30:54] <greycat> Walakea: the former is a directory, and
the latter is a device
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2799 [17:31:01] <Walakea> i want to write bootable ISO onto my USB
and i did it to /media/....
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2801 [17:31:05] <towo`> Walakea, the 1st is a directory, the last
is a device
2802 [17:31:11] <greycat> Devices can be mounted on directories.
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2806 [17:31:42] <petn-randall> ,v google-cloud-sdk
2807 [17:31:43] <judd> No package named
'google-cloud-sdk' was found in amd64.
2808 [17:31:43] <towo`> Walakea, isos have to be copieed to a
device, not a mountpoint
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2810 [17:31:48] <Walakea> ok
2811 [17:31:57] <Walakea> and does simple cp suffice?
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2813 [17:32:09] <towo`> Walakea, what?
2814 [17:32:09] <petn-randall> will__: No, that package
doesn't even exist in jessie. Ask whoever provided that package
for support.
2815 [17:32:10] <greycat> Walakea: for writing a bootable iso
image to a USB device, yes.
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2818 [17:32:22] <will__> gotcha thanks guys
2819 [17:32:39] <Walakea> cp "...iso" /dev/sdX
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2822 [17:33:29] <petn-randall> Walakea: yes. Make sure /dev/sdX is
not mounted, and that it's /dev/sdX, not sdX1.
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2828 [17:34:00] <mtcjayne> Would anyone be willing to pastebin me
the output of an IPv6 curl for my site? It works for other machines
on my LAN but not for IPv6 test websites.
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2833 [17:34:41] <teraflops> mtcjayne: sure
2834 [17:34:47] <mtcjayne> it's mtcjayne.com
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2836 [17:35:02] <mtcjayne> can't figure out where it's
getting dropped. probably the ISP end.
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2838 [17:35:08] <celyr> petn-randall, to build the backport
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2840 [17:35:20] <celyr> should I do that in a jessie machine ?
2841 [17:35:26] <celyr> or can i build the backport in a stretch
one ?
2842 [17:35:44] <greycat> judd said that yes, you can build a
backport from stretch source of ntp to jessie
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2844 [17:36:11] <celyr> should I use some special option ?
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2846 [17:36:15] <greycat> You build it on a jessie machine, using
a deb-src from stretch as per !sbb (just using stretch instead of
sid)
2847 [17:36:17] <amig> Hey guys! How can I change default
encryption parameters during installation: cipher, keysize and hash?
2848 [17:36:25] <greycat> sorry, ssb
2849 [17:36:28] <greycat> !ssb
2850 [17:36:28] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2852 [17:37:00] <Walakea> petn-randall: not mounted?
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2854 [17:37:41] <celyr> mmmhhh
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2856 [17:37:54] <celyr> !bdo
2857 [17:37:54] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
replaced-url
2858 [17:37:59] <greycat> Walakea: when writing an iso to a USB
device, neither the iso nor the USB device should be mounted.
2859 [17:38:01] <Dagger> mtcjayne: ping works, but no port 80/443.
check your firewall?
2860 [17:38:10] <mtcjayne> Yeah that's what I was afraid of.
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2863 [17:38:25] <teraflops> mtcjayne: I cannot access via http to
2604:2d80:4404:c6df:a00:27ff:fe4b:fe80
2864 [17:38:31] <mtcjayne> Technically I'm on residential
with a no server policy so.
2865 [17:38:36] <bs0d> Hello community. Is there a virtualbox
image for Debian 9.0.0 available?
2866 [17:38:40] <mtcjayne> Just gonna have to deal with it I
suppose.
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2868 [17:39:03] <teraflops> mtcjayne: but I can ping it
2869 [17:39:17] <mtcjayne> Yeah
2870 [17:39:26] <Walakea> when i try tab autocompletion, it gives
me umount /dev/sdb1, but i have to umount /dev/sdb ?
2871 [17:39:28] <teraflops> mtcjayne: fix your
apache/nginx/whatever ?
2872 [17:39:31] <Dagger> the internet's peer to peer, so
that's a bit broken
2873 [17:39:57] <greycat> Walakea: NONE of them should be mounted,
IF that is your USB device
2874 [17:39:59] <mtcjayne> Not sure what's going on.
It's nginx doing a proxy_pass to an IPv4 apache listening on
127.0.0.1
2875 [17:40:42] <teraflops> Dagger: what kind of ip address is it?
you mean a miredo thingy?
2876 [17:41:12] <Walakea> my understanding: i plug usb -> it
gets mounted -> i have to unmount it by umount?
2877 [17:41:13] <mtcjayne> Dagger: was the peer-to-peer bit about
me?
2878 [17:41:25] <Dagger> looks native to me
2879 [17:41:30] <teraflops> mtcjayne: mtcjayne are you sure
it's configured properly?
2880 [17:41:33] <Dagger> mtcjayne: yes
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2883 [17:41:58] <greycat> Walakea: what makes you think it
auto-mounted? Is it mounted when you run "df" or
"mount"? Are you in some crazy Desktop Env that
auto-mounts things?
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2887 [17:42:48] <Walakea> i use gnome3
2888 [17:42:54] <mtcjayne> It should be native from the ISP. And I
think it's configured properly. I can access it from other
machines in the same IPv6 prefix ok, the AIO plastic box my ISP gave
me has the IPv6 firewall disabled, nginx is indeed listening on
IPv6.
2889 [17:43:00] <greycat> Just use "df" to see what is
mounted, and umount the things that should not be.
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2892 [17:43:17] <greycat> And pray GNOME keeps its stupid little
hands to itself.
2893 [17:43:21] <teraflops> mtcjayne: then your proxy pass is
failing?
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2898 [17:43:38] <shanemcd> Hi, is this a good place to ask
question regarding debian packaging, or is there a more appropriate
channel?
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2900 [17:43:41] <Walakea> currently /dev/sdb1 is mounted
2901 [17:43:58] <iBdaOGtripleOG> does anyone experience with lftp?
2902 [17:44:00] <mtcjayne> Well would the proxy pass be affected
by whether I'm connecting to nginx from LAN vs WAN?
2903 [17:44:15] <dontknow> shanemcd, just ask
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2905 [17:44:31] <dontknow> this is a general channel
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2910 [17:45:15] <shanemcd> I'm trying to find documentation
on the Debian equivalent of RPM subpackages.
2911 [17:45:26] <teraflops> if the nginx facing the internet is
listening on 2604:2d80:4404:c6df:a00:27ff:fe4b:fe80 it should work
2912 [17:45:36] <dontknow> oh! sorry i thought i was in #linux
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2914 [17:46:02] <mtcjayne> When I try to curl from another machine
on this LAN I see "2604:2d80:4404:c6df:e50d:e6a6:24a5:e15f - -
[12/Jul/2017:10:31:07 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 949
"-" "curl/7.54.1""
2915 [17:46:15] <teraflops> mtcjayne: not lan^
2916 [17:46:26] <mtcjayne> Right
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2918 [17:46:53] <mtcjayne> So I'm thinking it's beyond
my allocated IPv6 network
2919 [17:46:55] <mtcjayne> subnet
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2921 [17:47:13] <bs0d> Is there any debian 9.0.0 image for
virtualbox?
2922 [17:48:08] <teraflops> mtcjayne: why dont you try to avoid
the reverse proxy part for now, and check if a simple html is being
served from the nginx at that ipv6 address?
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2927 [17:50:17] <petn-randall> bs0d: none official ones
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2929 [17:51:31] <teraflops> mtcjayne: also
replaced-url
2930 [17:51:54] <mtcjayne> no dice with that
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2932 [17:52:05] <mtcjayne> I never did an nmap. didn't even
think of it.
2933 [17:52:18] <teraflops> port 80 is closed
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2942 [17:52:48] <towo`> bs0d,
replaced-url
2943 [17:53:02] <teraflops> mtcjayne: I just nmap -6 -Pn -p 80
2604:2d80:4404:c6df:a00:27ff:fe4b:fe80
2944 [17:53:04] <greycat> nmap is stupid. It makes up its own
terminology that people think means something, like "open"
and "closed".
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2947 [17:53:56] <greycat> If you connect to a port, you can either
get connection refused, or connection accepted and immediately
dropped, or connection accepted but no response, or connection
accepted and a banner, or a timeout.
2948 [17:53:59] <towo`> bs0d, but i don't think, it will help
your issue (from #vbox) because that's only the disk-image not
a complete ova
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2950 [17:54:09] <Devastator> jessie is giving me a real hard time
to upgrade to stretch cleanly :(
2951 [17:54:28] <Walakea> which display manager will i have less
hassle with if i am on a laptop? (gdm3 or lightdm)?
2952 [17:54:51] <petn-randall> Walakea: Stick with the defaults,
so I'd take gdm3.
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2957 [17:54:58] <petn-randall> "defaults"
2958 [17:55:16] <mtcjayne> When I do it everything is listed as
filtered.
2959 [17:55:20] <bs0d> towo worth to give it a try (assuming that
the installer crashes vm)
2960 [17:56:46] <Walakea> would Debian Stretch work properly if i
used Linux 3.16?
2961 [17:56:55] <teraflops> well I cannot telnet to it either, so
lets assume something is preventing to connect to it (assuming you
have something listening there)
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2964 [17:57:12] <spikeyball> hey, did any of you do the LPIC 1/2?
2965 [17:57:25] <spikeyball> or Linux+?
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2967 [17:58:43] <petn-randall> Walakea: Sounds like an xy
question.
2968 [17:58:45] <petn-randall> !xy problem
2969 [17:58:45] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
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2973 [17:59:29] <sparky4> petn-randall: unale to connect
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2976 [17:59:38] <sparky4> petn-randall: i loged out and suspended
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2979 [17:59:55] <sparky4> this time the screen was not blank but
it seems the system was loced/frozen
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2981 [17:59:59] <sparky4> locked*
2982 [18:00:20] <mtcjayne> teraflops: yeah i'm trying to
figure out where
2983 [18:00:22] <sparky4> i tried to ssh into it ... no responce
2984 [18:00:37] <BluesKaj> ok, fixed the HP printer connection on
stretch, changed the detection/search mode and entering the network
printer's IP and the hpijs driver helped as well
2985 [18:00:40] <mtcjayne> something that only affects hosts
outside of the prefix
2986 [18:00:59] <hexhaxtron> I got a problem with vsftpd. I get
Response:500 OOPS: cannot locate user entry:ftpsecure
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2988 [18:01:05] <hexhaxtron> What should I do?
2989 [18:01:32] <petn-randall> hexhaxtron: I recommend giving
useful info for people to respond.
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2994 [18:04:43] <petn-randall> hexhaxtron: Where is this message
from? It's also a good idea to provide the message before and
after. And if you changed any of the config, it's also a good
idea to provide that.
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2997 [18:05:43] <sparky4> petn-randall: ><
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3002 [18:06:23] <petn-randall> sparky4: Does ping work though?
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3014 [18:09:29] <Devastator> trying to finish my apt-get
dist-upgrade from jessie to stretch, but it is stuck while upgrading
systemd and udev, tried to reinstall systemd and got this:
replaced-url
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3075 [18:30:12] <mtcjayne> is there any way i can figure out where
this connection is dropping?
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3079 [18:31:03] <ned_-> can i cronjob with command * * */6 * *
service apache2 restart ?
3080 [18:31:08] <ned_-> Is it valid ?
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3083 [18:31:29] <Devastator> great, I can't upgrade udev,
systemd, lvm2, nfs-common or initramfs-tools, and I can't clean
defunct processes :(
3084 [18:31:50] <petn-randall> !xy problem
3085 [18:31:50] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
3086 [18:31:52] <petn-randall> ned_-: ^^^
3087 [18:32:26] <petn-randall> ned_-: It's technically
possible but probably not what you want.
3088 [18:32:26] <mtcjayne> ah never mind. the traceroute stops at
2604:2d80:4404::1 which is almost certainly my ISP firewalling IPv6
ports.
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3091 [18:33:56] <Dagger> mtcjayne: that's the hop immediately
before 2604:2d80:4404:c6df:a00:27ff:fe4b:fe80 though
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3093 [18:34:26] <mtcjayne> i guess i don't know enough to
know if that means something else is likely going on
3094 [18:34:30] <Dagger> (which presumably is your router)
3095 [18:34:37] <mtcjayne> nah my modem is different
3096 [18:35:01] <mtcjayne> for whatever reason it's
2604:2d80:4404:c6df:e288:5dff:fee1:xxx
3097 [18:35:24] <Dagger> maybe on the LAN side, but it will
probably also have a WAN IP
3098 [18:35:28] <Devastator> petn-randall can you help me
understand why I'm having trouble upgrading udev, systemd,
lvm2, nfs-common and initramfs-tools?
3099 [18:35:38] <Dagger> or it could have 2604:2d80:4404::1 on lo
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3101 [18:36:21] <mtcjayne> hmm
3102 [18:36:27] <ned_-> petn-randall ?
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3105 [18:37:30] <petn-randall> ned_-: You probably have a problem
that you think the best solution is restarting apache with a cron
job. Don't tell us about the solution, tell us about the
problem.
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3109 [18:38:43] <hexhaxtron> What is the meaning of the + (plus)
in ls -l? Like: drwx------+ 8 daumie services 4096 Jul 11 16:51 reds
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3111 [18:38:54] <petn-randall> Devastator: Try "systemctl
restart systemd-logind". Source:
replaced-url
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3113 [18:39:19] <ned_-> * */6 * * * service apache2 restart
3114 [18:39:19] <Devastator> petn-randall thank you
3115 [18:39:21] <ned_-> * */6 * * * /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
3116 [18:39:37] <ned_-> so both are valid i can use one of them ?
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3118 [18:39:48] <petn-randall> hexhaxtron: It means there are
extended ACLs present.
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3121 [18:40:00] <Dagger> or `invoke-rc.d apache2 restart`
3122 [18:40:05] <petn-randall> ned_-: So you don't want to
tell us about the problem?
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3124 [18:40:18] <Dagger> which I'm sure I read somewhere that
you're supposed to use over `service`, so I do
3125 [18:40:38] <petn-randall> ned_-: 'service' is the
init system agnostic version.
3126 [18:40:43] <ned_-> i ask if i can cron without dir like
/etc/init.d/apache2
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3128 [18:41:02] <Devastator> petn-randall lots of defunct
processes, can them prevent me from upgrading a package?
3129 [18:41:09] <ned_-> ok thank you petn-randall
3130 [18:41:19] <petn-randall> Dagger: No, that's an
sysvinit-specific.
3131 [18:41:20] <Devastator> I'm afraid to restart it and it
doesn't come back..
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3134 [18:41:41] <Devastator> I mean, the machine itself, not
logind
3135 [18:42:06] <petn-randall> Devastator: Well, can you continue
upgrading after that command?
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3138 [18:42:47] <Devastator> petn-randall nope, it gave me time
out: root@morpheu:/home/fggs# systemctl restart systemd-logind
3139 [18:42:47] <Devastator> Failed to restart
systemd-logind.service: Connection timed out
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3141 [18:43:33] <Devastator> systemctl doesn't output either
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3143 [18:43:57] <petn-randall> Devastator: Do you have a
live/rescue system to boot from?
3144 [18:44:08] <Devastator> petn-randall I guess I can make one
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3146 [18:44:22] <Devastator> will you be here in.. let's say
20 min?
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3149 [18:44:43] <Devastator> I will be back in 20
3150 [18:44:47] <petn-randall> Devastator: If you're stuck,
I'd create a live system, boot into that, then chroot into your
installation and try to continue the upgrade.
3151 [18:44:51] <petn-randall> Devastator: Should be there, yes.
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3158 [18:49:03] <petn-randall> Dagger: Also invoke-rc.d is
Debian-specific, too.
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3174 [18:55:32] <op3y> hello everyone
3175 [18:55:38] <spikeyball> oy
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3184 [19:00:03] <jelly> ned_-, that's valid syntax, but you
probably don't want to restart apache every minute from 00:00,
00:01... to 00:59, then again every minute at 06:00, 06:01, 06:02...
to 06:5
3185 [19:00:16] <jelly> 06:59
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3187 [19:01:04] * petn-randall shrugs.
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3189 [19:01:07] <jelly> petn-randall, service command still works
with systemd, so I guess it's an optimal thing to use
regardless of init used
3190 [19:01:14] <petn-randall> Do stupid things, win stupid
prizes.
3191 [19:01:26] <petn-randall> jelly: yepp, that's what I
recommended.
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3194 [19:01:34] <ned_-> ok thanks jelly
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3196 [19:01:57] <jelly> serves me right for not reading the
backlog carefull
3197 [19:02:02] <jelly> y
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3201 [19:03:16] <ned_-> i'd restart apache2 every 6 hours
because ram is rising by it
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3203 [19:03:40] <greycat> I'd move your web services out of
the apache process.
3204 [19:04:19] <jolt> ned_-: Or you should tweak how many
processes apache can handle before it restarts the services by
itself
3205 [19:04:46] <greycat> *nod* restarts the pre-forked workers,
or whatever
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3208 [19:05:14] <omenius> I have set my network psk and password
in wpa_supplicant.conf and I have set interface options for wlan0 in
dhcpcd.conf, but for some reason also wlan1 gets auto connected. Any
tips?
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3211 [19:07:20] <ned_-> oh ok i will try reduce processes to 6
3212 [19:07:44] <greycat> The number of workers is less important
than how many requests each worker is allowed to process before
it's replaced.
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3214 [19:08:04] <petn-randall> ned_-: What application is apache
running?
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3217 [19:09:19] <ned_-> just .shtml and owncloud in /var/replaced-url
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3220 [19:10:47] <ned_-> Debian jessie minimalist
3221 [19:10:49] <greycat>
replaced-url
3222 [19:10:53] <greycat> So I'm guessing it's a PHP
thing.
3223 [19:11:30] <petn-randall> ned_-: You either want to reduce
the maximum amount of forks apache does, or use php-fpm. This is
what I meant with xy problem, by the way.
3224 [19:12:10] <vutral> apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt like stretch
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3228 [19:12:42] <nkuttler> vutral: did you read the release notes?
3229 [19:12:43] <greycat> I moved my MoinMoin wiki from the
common, naive Apache2+mod-python setup to nginx+uwsgi with strict
limits on everything and memory usage was successfully reined in.
3230 [19:13:03] <vutral> nkuttler, whats written in it which could
concern me ?
3231 [19:13:14] <nkuttler> vutral: all of it
3232 [19:13:16] <greycat> unfuc.... sorry, petn-randall
3233 [19:13:19] <greycat> but come on
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3267 [19:28:12] <br> hi
3268 [19:28:14] <br> i need help
3269 [19:28:26] <br> The repository 'cdrom://[Debian
GNU/Linux 9.0.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 xfce-CD Binary-1
20170617-13:07] stretch Release' does not have a Release file.
3270 [19:28:28] <br> wat do?
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3273 [19:30:04] <nkuttler> br: put in the cd? remove the cd line
from your sources.list ?
3274 [19:30:40] <br> both lines?
3275 [19:30:43] <br> there are 2 cd lines
3276 [19:31:31] <br> ok
3277 [19:31:32] <br> worked
3278 [19:31:40] <br> thank you @nkuttler
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3280 [19:32:09] <Devastator> petn-randall can I try to reboot
first? heheh
3281 [19:32:10] <br> i installed it via usb
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3302 [19:45:21] <Devastator> petn-randall rebooting allowed me to
continue upgrading, let's see how it goes
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3317 [19:54:48] <omenius> how do I permanently set two different
wlan interfaces to use different wpa_supplicant conf file? is the
"wpa_supplicant -c file.conf -i wlan0" legit way?
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3319 [19:56:53] <omenius> also is there a easy way to flip debian
minimal (only cli) 180' degrees?
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3321 [19:57:12] <omenius> the video signal
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3323 [19:57:31] <teraflops> omenius: are you using plain
wpasupplicant instead pf /e/n/i or whatever?
3324 [19:57:48] <teraflops> s/pf/of
3325 [19:57:55] <jmcnaught> omenius: are you configuring them with
/etc/network/interfaces? For each iface stanza you can use
"wpa-conf /path/to/conf.conf. Look at
/usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz and "man
interfaces"
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3327 [19:58:25] <teraflops> omenius: /e/n/i is quite minimal
already^
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3329 [19:58:35] <simbalion> Is there a 'system user'
group in debian? I know about the adm group, but is that similar to
'wheel' or is it just for viewing log files?
3330 [19:58:38] <teraflops> even NM has nmtui/nmcli
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3333 [19:59:43] <teraflops> simbalion: systemd-journal
3334 [19:59:50] <jmcnaught> simbalion: adm is for read access to
/var/log. There's also staff for write access to /usr/local.
Look at /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz
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3337 [20:00:08] <simbalion> I'm looking for restricting
access to su to root and an administrator group
3338 [20:00:43] <omenius> teraflops: I think so, just rasbian
minimal install
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3340 [20:00:48] <teraflops> theres a group
3341 [20:00:51] <omenius> *raspbian
3342 [20:01:08] <teraflops> grep systemd-journal /etc/group
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3346 [20:01:41] <jmcnaught> !raspian
3347 [20:01:42] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
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3351 [20:01:53] <omenius> jmcnaught: So far I have put my configs
in dhcpcd.conf because I was in a believe it would replace
/etc/network/interfaces but I just heard thats not true
3352 [20:02:19] <omenius> dpkg: thanks, did not know there was own
channel
3353 [20:02:19] <dpkg> bitte, omenius
3354 [20:02:21] <jmcnaught> omenius: things could be different on
your distro. please use the channel suggested by dpkg above for
support.
3355 [20:02:22] <Devastator> do I need to add something extra to
/etc/network/interfaces for it to put my bridge br0 up during init?
3356 [20:02:31] <br> ok, files in thunar with too much text in
them makes files beneath have big gap. how can i fix that? so thunar
doesnt show whole name
3357 [20:02:38] <Devastator> in jessie it worked, in stretch it is
not working
3358 [20:03:07] <jmcnaught> Devastator: i have my bridge
configured in my interfaces file, can you show yours?
3359 [20:03:43] <Devastator> jmcnaught
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3361 [20:05:21] <br> how can i make files showing in thunar have
less text?
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3363 [20:06:44] <jmcnaught> Devastator: can you comment out
"allow-hotplug eth0" and try booting again? Also does br0
not come up until you do it manually with ifup?
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3365 [20:07:11] <jmcnaught> br: i don't use thunar, but it
might have zoom controls possibly under a view menu
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3368 [20:08:00] <br> i dont wanna zoom in or out, i just wanna
make it so the long name of the file is not displayed
3369 [20:08:18] <Devastator> jmcnaught exactly, I have to manually
do ifup br0
3370 [20:08:50] <armin> processing since
3371 [20:08:50] <armin> Wed 12 Jul 2017 08:05:48 PM CEST
3372 [20:08:51] <armin> "Spooling job, 97% complete."
3373 [20:08:59] <armin> any hint what to do if cups hangs like
this?
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3375 [20:10:11] <Devastator> jmcnaught it seems the problem is a
bit more complex
3376 [20:10:27] <jmcnaught> Devastator: as in?
3377 [20:11:02] <teraflops> Devastator: why dhcp for the br0
iface?
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3380 [20:11:24] <br> can i post a link?
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3383 [20:11:38] <Devastator> jmcnaught well, it seems there is a
race condition going on, let me pastebin /var/log/messages
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3385 [20:11:56] <teraflops> try giving it a fixed ip addr
3386 [20:11:58] <random_numbers> Is it possible to test upstream
kernel to see if a fix works while keeping the default
"stable" kernel installed and working too?
3387 [20:12:00] <jmcnaught> Devastator: "journalctl -u
networking.service" might be enough
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3389 [20:12:30] <random_numbers> And if said test fails, is it
possible to remove the upstream kernel again while leaving the
default functional?
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3392 [20:12:44] <jmcnaught> i think it's because the file
still has auto-hotplug eth0. Here an interfaces from one of my
systems using DHCP on a bridge:
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3393 [20:12:48] <teraflops> Devastator: also try an explicit auto
br0 before the iface br0 inet dhcp
3394 [20:12:56] <teraflops> without the dhcp^
3395 [20:12:58] <jmcnaught> br: sure, if it's relevant
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3397 [20:13:26] <br> apparently, thunar doesnt have that option -
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3399 [20:14:06] <jmcnaught> random_numbers: yes, you can do that.
"/msg dpkg kernel-handbook" for a link to a guide on
compiling a kernel the Debian way
3400 [20:14:17] <Devastator> jmcnaught "journalctl -u
networking.service" gives me no entries
3401 [20:14:23] <jmcnaught> Devastator: as root?
3402 [20:14:24] <random_numbers> jmcnaught: Thanks.
3403 [20:14:31] <Devastator> jmcnaught yes
3404 [20:14:37] <Devastator> teraflops I will
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3407 [20:14:49] <jmcnaught> Devastator: are you on sysvinit?
3408 [20:15:06] <Devastator> jmcnaught /var/log/messages:
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3409 [20:15:45] <Devastator> jmcnaught I hope not
3410 [20:16:05] <jmcnaught> Devastator: does
"journalctl" as root show anything at all?
3411 [20:16:12] <pasky> Hi! Is there a canonical way to get a
Flash plugin (for whatever browser) installed on Debian stretch?
Both
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3413 [20:16:48] <greycat> Just use upstream's flash-plugin
thing.
3414 [20:16:50] <Devastator> jmcnaught yes
3415 [20:17:03] <Devastator> jmcnaught want a pastebin of it?
3416 [20:17:04] <omenius> Whats up with ability to set static ip
in either /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/dhcpcd.conf? Or is it
just raspbian feature?
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3418 [20:17:12] <jmcnaught> Devastator: so what about
"systemctl status networking.service"?
3419 [20:17:40] <pasky> greycat: What do you mean?
3420 [20:17:51] <greycat> omenius: the default DHCP client program
in Debian isn't dhcpcd and doesn't read /etc/dhcpcd.conf
... THIS IS WHY YOU ASK RASPBIAN QUESTIONS IN #raspbian
3421 [20:17:57] <Devastator> jmcnaught it says it is inactive
(dead)
3422 [20:18:07] <pasky> greycat: (by "upstream" in
particular, but also by "flash-plugin")
3423 [20:18:16] <greycat> pasky: DOn't use a deb at all. No
deb-multimedia. No backports, no pinning, no other crap. Just
download upstream's flash plugin.
3424 [20:18:26] <greycat> !upstream
3425 [20:18:26] <dpkg> somebody said upstream was where Debian
developers download software from.
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3426 [20:18:36] <omenius> okay sorry, but I was thinking now about
debian, I want to know the differences
3427 [20:18:37] <greycat> Upstream in this case being adobe.com
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3429 [20:19:15] <greycat> isc-dhcp-client is the default DHCP
client in Debian
3430 [20:19:35] <jmcnaught> Devastator: the whole output please
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3432 [20:20:16] <Devastator> jmcnaught
replaced-url
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3440 [20:21:01] <omenius> may I ask what is the default dchp
client program in Debian?
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3442 [20:21:11] <Devastator> dhclient iirc
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3444 [20:21:22] <jmcnaught> Devastator: networking service is
disabled on your system, this is not the default. What is
configuring networking instead of networking.service on your system?
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3447 [20:21:53] <pasky> greycat: Thanks. Since these are steps I
need to explain via chat to an end-user with a notebook somewhere,
I'll go with deb-multimedia.
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3450 [20:22:17] <Devastator> jmcnaught it was networking.service,
but I had a tough time updating from jessie to stretch so something
changed during postint of something
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3452 [20:22:28] <jmcnaught> !dmm
3453 [20:22:28] <dpkg> We recommend against using
deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause
many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because
the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See
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3455 [20:22:37] <jmcnaught> pasky: ^^ see above from dpkg
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3457 [20:22:43] <Devastator> jmcnaught how do I enable it?
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3460 [20:22:49] <random_numbers> Is there no Free alternative to
the firmware patch ar3k/AthrBT_0x31010000.dfu ?
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3463 [20:23:13] <jmcnaught> Devastator: "systemctl enable
networking" but you should also check to see what else you
configured in the past for networking as an alternative
3464 [20:23:26] <Devastator> jmcnaught nothing really
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3466 [20:23:39] <greycat> pasky: installing adobe.com's flash
plugin is super easy. Just extract the tarball, then copy the
libflashplayer.so file into ~/.mozilla/plugins/ (for firefox)
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3471 [20:24:03] <iBdaOGtripleOG> anyone have experience with lftp
doing ftp with implicit tls?
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3473 [20:24:08] <greycat> !anyone
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3475 [20:24:08] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
3476 [20:24:14] <jmcnaught> Devastator: run "systemctl"
with no options for a list of all the active units
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3478 [20:24:20] <teraflops> Devastator: are you already using
another network management daemon?
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3480 [20:24:37] <greycat> But FTP and TLS have nothing to do with
each other.
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3482 [20:24:47] <greycat> So, not sure I even understand the
question's background here.
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3484 [20:25:19] <Devastator> jmcnaught
replaced-url
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3487 [20:26:03] <br> how do i turn off these system sounds in
debian 9?
3488 [20:26:04] <Devastator> teraflops it was a jessie install
with no 3rd party daemons
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3491 [20:26:25] <jmcnaught> Devastator: right, so now your system
will actually try to use the /etc/network/interfaces file on boot.
But you still need to figure out what was configuring networking
while networking.service was disabled
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3497 [20:27:24] <jmcnaught> br: look in the preferences for your
desktop environment. In GNOME it's under the sound settings
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3499 [20:27:38] <br> it's xfce
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3501 [20:27:45] <teraflops> Devastator: same here but systemctl
status networking says active
3502 [20:27:54] <Devastator> jmcnaught
replaced-url
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3505 [20:28:39] <Devastator> teraflops I've upgraded from
jessie to stretch and it wasn't cleanly, so that might be the
issue
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3509 [20:28:56] <Walakea> i just successfully upgraded to stretch
and my gnome desktop works fine, however when i try to log in to
xfce4, the screen goes black and then it returns to login screen.
3510 [20:28:56] <Walakea> i had partially installed xfce4 before
the upgrade
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3513 [20:29:47] <armin> uh, funny. printers are not showing up in
libreoffice, but do so in evince and firefox...
3514 [20:29:48] <jmcnaught> Devastator: I don't know how your
networking.service got disabled, but in your list of active units I
don't see any other network config things that I'm aware
of. Is it possible you did something weird like disabled networking
and ran a custom script?
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3517 [20:30:35] <Walakea> also, changing the TIMEOUT in
/etc/default/grub did not seem to do the job
3518 [20:30:42] <Walakea> (i set it to 1)
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3522 [20:31:21] <jmcnaught> Walakea: did you run update-grub after
changing it?
3523 [20:31:39] <Walakea> oh, forgot that
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3525 [20:32:08] <Devastator> jmcnaught no, but I think during
apt-get dist-upgrade it couldn't upgrade udev, systemd and gave
me a lot of connection timed out on systemd's services, that
could be it
3526 [20:32:19] <Devastator> let me reboot it once again to see if
it works
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3533 [20:34:26] <Devastator> ok, works now
3534 [20:35:27] <jmcnaught> Devastator: it's strange that
networking.service was disabled for you. systemctl is not the only
command that can disable a service, update-rc.d still works too.
Anyways, good you got it working
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3538 [20:36:39] <teraflops> Devastator: may I ask why you tell the
bridge to get ip address via dhcp?
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3546 [20:39:03] <PflasterMann> Hey! Does anyone know how to filter
out only the ACTION=="add" events from `udevadm monitor`?
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3551 [20:39:36] <random_numbers> Are .dfu files full firmware or
just patches?
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3554 [20:40:52] <sparky4> petn-randall: ok any idea what is
causing it before i suspend?
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3560 [20:42:52] <erika4|dinky4> petn-randall this is sparky4 on my
IBM Thinkpad 600e running FreeDOS and using irc jr
3561 [20:43:44] <pasky> jmcnaught: I know, that's why I
double-checked there's no Debian proper solution.
3562 [20:43:51] <erika4|dinky4> brb
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3564 [20:43:59] <pasky> (which doesn't include explaining how
to extract tarballs to end users)
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3566 [20:44:24] <greycat> You think editing sources.list is easier
than "paste these tar, cp, rm commands"?
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3570 [20:44:49] <greycat> Not to mention the long-term breakage of
having dmm as a source.
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3574 [20:45:41] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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3579 [20:50:02] <pasky> Probably not, if I tried it myself on a
local computer first. I was able to provide dmm instructions without
further testing and it worked. I just wish Debian's flash
packages would have made it to stretch.
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3581 [20:50:02] <greycat> (Also, downloading and copying
libflashplayer.so doesn't require root at any point.)
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3584 [20:50:56] <jmcnaught> also, now you get to help people fix
their systems when dmm breaks something
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3586 [20:51:45] <pasky> :) i've heard about it happenning and
know it's frowned upon, but to be honest in 10 years it never
happenned to me personally
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3604 [20:57:36] <Walakea> i tried reinstalling xfce4 packages but
it still does not work, does it have to do with GDM3 and wayland?
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3610 [20:59:46] <teraflops> I dont think it has nothing to do with
it
3611 [21:00:17] <jmcnaught> Walakea: can you find the logs for
your Xorg session? If you're using GDM and root-less Xorg they
could be in ~/.local/share/xorg or if not in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(unless xfce4 also uses wayland, but i don't think it does)
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3616 [21:03:05] <teraflops> lol no, iirc xfce4 is not even fully
ported to gtk3
3617 [21:03:37] <Walakea> there are two files with time difference
about 3 mins so it be it, however i tried running both files through
grep xfce but did not found anything
3618 [21:04:03] <teraflops> but I believe gdm running under
wayland (if that's the case) has nothing to do with the DE/WM
you choose to start
3619 [21:04:16] <Walakea> so i am not sure, according to the time
the file should be .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log.old
3620 [21:04:37] <erika4|dinky4> debian stretch fails to function
after a resume from suspention
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3631 [21:06:19] <jmcnaught> Walakea: if you are unsure then do
another login, and then make a paste of the file. On the GDM login
screen, do both GNOME/Xorg and GNOME/Wayland work?
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3634 [21:07:39] <Walakea>
replaced-url
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3637 [21:08:46] <Walakea> both gnomes work
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3639 [21:09:27] <Walakea> note that i am not 100 % sure that this
log is from the unsuccessful xfce4 session
3640 [21:09:30] <jmcnaught> Walakea: well there are no (EE) errors
in that file, and it looks to me like Xorg is just closing its
session normally. Is it possible that you are missing components of
xfce4? Did you install it with a metapackage, and which one?
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3643 [21:11:06] <Walakea> before the upgrade i installed some
partial version: the seesion worked with all the plugins and so on
however it did not install the default xfce applications.
3644 [21:11:06] <Walakea> after the upgrade i removed xfce* and
reinstalled the package xfce4
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3652 [21:15:20] <jmcnaught> Walakea: I don't know enough
about xfce4 to know where to look for its logs. If you look at
"journalctl -u gdm" you can see your logins. With GNOME
you can also look at "journalctl --user" but I doubt that
xfce4 is writing to the user journal
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3658 [21:17:07] <teraflops> Walakea: the xorg log you want is the
one from ~/.local/share/xorg/
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3662 [21:18:11] <Walakea> i already provided that one
3663 [21:18:38] <Walakea> however the gdm log is quite short with
these interesting lines:
3664 [21:18:39] <Walakea> Jul 12 20:08:53 debian gdm3[765]:
GdmDisplay: display lasted 2.855214 seconds
3665 [21:19:11] <Walakea> other than that only messages saying
session started by me
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3676 [21:23:55] <teraflops> Walakea: and what happens if you do
plain startx with ~/.xinitrc or xfce4 as default DE via alternative
system?
3677 [21:24:35] <Walakea> i never did this
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3686 [21:27:54] <jmcnaught> Walakea: or login to xfce4 as a
different user?
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3691 [21:29:13] <teraflops> Walakea: anyway it looks to me that
it's not gdm's fault, that's why using startx should
help to troubleshoot the issue
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3696 [21:30:41] <Walakea> after another reboot, xfce4 works
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3702 [21:32:16] <teraflops> with gdm?
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3704 [21:32:45] <Walakea> yes
3705 [21:32:51] <teraflops> well, the itcrowd approach worked
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3707 [21:33:01] <Iridos> wekkm skap a "windows" sticker
on it
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3709 [21:33:46] <Walakea> there is one small thing however, is it
possible to somewhere activate numlock and tap to clock (touchpad)
in gdm?
3710 [21:34:00] <jmcnaught> i wonder what it was, some resource
that didn't get released properly?
3711 [21:34:03] <Walakea> it works when i log in but not before
that
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3714 [21:37:19] <teraflops> ,v numlockx
3715 [21:37:20] <judd> Package: numlockx on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.2-4; jessie: 1.2-7; buster: 1.2-7+b2; stretch: 1.2-7+b2; sid:
1.2-7+b2
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3717 [21:37:59] <teraflops> Walakea: use that thingy but idk if
that works in wayland
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3723 [21:39:32] <teraflops> Walakea: then enable it in
/etc/gdm3/Init/Default
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3746 [21:51:20] <erika4|dinky4> i have noidea where the issue of
mine is
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3775 [22:02:48] <JyZyXEL> security & stability wise, is it
better to run the kernel from stretch-backports Vs manually building
the latest vanilla stable kernel via make deb-pkg?
3776 [22:03:51] <Walakea> also on my laptop, all the Fn + X keys
work except for screen brightness, the system simply does not
recognize that key combination
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3779 [22:04:15] <greycat> JyZyXEL: it makes no sense to mess
around with the kernel without a *reason*. Just use the one that
comes with your release of Debian unless you have a specific need
for some other.
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3781 [22:04:37] <braingain> JyZyXEL: linux kernel is stable for 40
years now
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3783 [22:05:16] <JyZyXEL> braingain: but i assume the debian
linux-images contain debian-specific patches
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3785 [22:05:35] <JyZyXEL> and a vanilla kernel might not have all
those patches and thus it might not function properly?
3786 [22:05:54] <Walakea> i found a possible solution on arch
forums but i am not sure how to execute it
3787 [22:05:55] <teraflops> JyZyXEL: I wont bothering myself
building kernels by hand anymore, unless there are strong reasons
behind it
3788 [22:05:58] <Walakea>
replaced-url
3789 [22:06:11] <braingain> Walakea: its always fun to bind them
keys by yourself check
replaced-url
3790 [22:06:42] <JyZyXEL> teraflops: it's a bit of a
different story for a gaming machine
3791 [22:06:47] <Walakea> what is the command that listens to all
input events?
3792 [22:06:51] <teraflops> JyZyXEL: which patches specifically?
you meant debian patches?
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3794 [22:06:54] <Walakea> mouse + keyboard
3795 [22:07:02] <greycat> Walakea: usually it's called X
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3797 [22:07:07] <teraflops> xev?
3798 [22:07:10] <Walakea> yes
3799 [22:07:15] <braingain> JyZyXEL: now you're insulting
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3801 [22:07:42] <Walakea> yes, i wanted to say that xev does
nothing when i press the key combination
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3803 [22:07:53] <jmcnaught> Walakea: do the Fn keys work in GNOME,
but not in xfce4?
3804 [22:07:54] <Walakea> Fn + brigthness
3805 [22:07:57] <bezaban> JyZyXEL: run debian kernels or build
them the debian way
3806 [22:08:09] <Walakea> no, not at all
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3808 [22:08:21] <Walakea> but all the other Fn + stuff work
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3812 [22:09:20] <Walakea> i have Asus F555LB
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3814 [22:09:33] <JyZyXEL> bezaban: the upstream bindeb-pkg seems
to produce working debian packages
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3818 [22:10:36] <bezaban> JyZyXEL: upstream or 3rd party repo?
3819 [22:11:00] <JyZyXEL> bezaban: upstream linus kernel
3820 [22:11:04] <jmcnaught> JyZyXEL: what is the problem you are
trying to solve with the newer kernel?
3821 [22:11:20] <JyZyXEL> jmcnaught: amdgpu stuff
3822 [22:11:34] <greycat> What "stuff"? What isn't
working?
3823 [22:11:43] <jmcnaught> JyZyXEL: as in, you need a feature
that isn't present in stretch?
3824 [22:12:11] <JyZyXEL> jmcnaught: oh no no, first i need to get
jessie to properly virtualize stretch
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3826 [22:12:41] <braingain> Walakea: REMOVE ASUS you are worst
distributor you are the distrib idiot you are the distrib smell.
return to deskop. to our desktop cousins you may come our contry
3827 [22:13:04] <erika4|dinky4>
replaced-url
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3829 [22:13:10] <Walakea> :(
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3831 [22:13:17] <braingain> tupac alive numbr #1 in laptop
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3833 [22:13:29] <erika4|dinky4> i have issues with suspend... hmmm
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3835 [22:14:22] <teraflops> JyZyXEL: I suppose youre aware that
the virtualized stretch (aka guest) wont use amdgpu driver
3836 [22:14:55] <towo`> erika4|dinky4, are you using binary
graphics drivers like nvidia?
3837 [22:15:06] <erika4|dinky4> yeah i am
3838 [22:15:13] <JyZyXEL> teraflops: yeah it does, i map the card
to it
3839 [22:15:19] <teraflops> braingain: are you about to insult any
nick here?
3840 [22:15:19] <ioudas^working> Anyone familar with request
tracker here? I am trying to get custom fields to show up on a
ticket. Yet they wont. Any help would be appreciated.
3841 [22:15:34] <teraflops> JyZyXEL: ah gpu passthrough
3842 [22:16:22] <braingain> erika4|dinky4: when i originally got
this laptop i was strugglin with asus acpi as well. did not got it
to work. now my friends are asking how to fix this p0s
3843 [22:16:28] <jmcnaught> JyZyXEL: oh. actually I have a stretch
VM that uses amdgpu, everything is stock
3844 [22:16:43] <erika4|dinky4> ah
3845 [22:16:49] <towo`> erika4|dinky4, nvidia and suspend problems
are well known
3846 [22:16:50] <erika4|dinky4> it worked just fine in jessie!
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3849 [22:17:52] <towo`> you can't compare jessie with
stretch, another nvidia-driver, another kernel-version == new acpi
issues
3850 [22:17:56] <jmcnaught> erika4|dinky4: you cannot suspend? or
you cannot resume? Are there clues in the logs?
3851 [22:18:31] <teraflops> erika4|dinky4: well, suspend/hibernate
depends on gpu/kernel/hw combo
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3854 [22:19:24] <erika4|dinky4> i cannot resume from suspend
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3856 [22:19:27] <teraflops> and yeah what towo` says
3857 [22:19:35] <erika4|dinky4> the machines turns on but it is
200% locked up
3858 [22:19:38] <teraflops> i bet youre not alone
3859 [22:19:54] <erika4|dinky4> i should uninst nvidi kernel then
3860 [22:20:04] <towo`> the nvidia linux forum is full of such
messages
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3862 [22:20:31] <sparky4> towo`: ! ah
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3866 [22:21:38] <erika4|dinky4> also evolution is broke again.
database services sources 5 timed out .. but the suspend issue is
more important at the moment
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3868 [22:22:35] <jmcnaught> erika4|dinky4: how do you fix it when
it will not resume? you reboot?
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3870 [22:23:13] <erika4|dinky4> i unplug my laptop forcefully
3871 [22:23:16] <erika4|dinky4> and reboot
3872 [22:23:19] <erika4|dinky4> yeah...
3873 [22:23:21] <teraflops> ^
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3877 [22:24:43] <towo`> sparky4, ??
3878 [22:24:51] <teraflops> erika4|dinky4: I wonder if switching
to tty and then again to gnome works, unless the laptop is truly
locked (not even replying to ping)
3879 [22:25:00] <erika4|dinky4> towo` sparky4 is me
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3881 [22:25:06] <erika4|dinky4> and on the affected laptop
3882 [22:25:15] <erika4|dinky4> i am using 2 computers
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3884 [22:25:18] <jmcnaught> erika4|dinky4: you can either look in
/var/log/syslog for messages that immediately precede the new boot,
or you could look at /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz for how
to enable persistent journals and use "journalctl --boot=-1
--lines=50" to see the last 50 lines of your previous boot
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3886 [22:25:42] <sparky4> teraflops: NOPE
3887 [22:26:11] <sparky4> jmcnaught: ok i will look
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3894 [22:28:34] <jhutchins_wk> ioudas^working:
sales@bestpractical.com
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3905 [22:34:51] <Walakea> dmesg says: [ 7.313292] input: Asus WMI
hotkeys as /devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/input/input20
3906 [22:34:51] <Walakea> however that file does not exist
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3959 [23:02:48] <tw> Using schroot is it possible to specify extra
bind directories on the command line? For example, if I have the
chroot config
replaced-url
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3961 [23:03:31] <tw> the gitdir-uuid directory changes for every
execution, so I won't know what it is until I'm entering
schroot.
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3967 [23:05:02] <mandate20> hey guys, i'm trying to install a
outdated driver on debian stretch (fglrx-driver), however, when i go
to install it - it's telling me that the package is not
available and referred to by another package but doesn't give
me the name of the package
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3969 [23:05:07] <mandate20> any way to retrieve this information?
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3972 [23:05:44] <towo`> you can't install fglrx in stretch
3973 [23:05:54] <jmcnaught> mandate20: fglrx-driver was dropped
because it's no longer developed upstream, and is incompatible
with the version of Xorg in stretch
3974 [23:05:57] <towo`> and btw, fglrx is dead and for sure not
needed
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3979 [23:06:20] <klys> unless I'm using the card it works
with
3980 [23:06:25] <Guest87034> hey
3981 [23:06:26] <sidetracking> was about to scrap debian
3982 [23:06:29] <sidetracking> couldn't install anything
3983 [23:06:31] <Guest87034> i am new to kali
3984 [23:06:37] <sidetracking> bunch of pwned dependencies
3985 [23:06:50] <sidetracking> nothing fixed it
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3987 [23:06:56] <sidetracking> read errything
3988 [23:07:00] <towo`> Guest87034, wrong channel
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3990 [23:07:05] <sidetracking> still couldn't fix it
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3992 [23:07:17] <towo`> sidetracking, aha
3993 [23:07:17] <jmcnaught> sidetracking: "/msg dpkg
bat" for troubleshooting information to provide if you would
like some help. Also please don't hit <enter> every
couple of words, when it gets busy it makes you hard to follow
3994 [23:07:20] <sidetracking> tried installing something with
aptitude
3995 [23:07:31] <sidetracking> "would you like to fix
literally everything?"
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3997 [23:07:34] <sidetracking> >yes
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3999 [23:07:38] <sidetracking> >it just werks
4000 [23:07:40] <sidetracking> nice
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4002 [23:07:46] <Shawn|i7-720QM> howdy
4003 [23:08:12] <mandate20> jmcnaught: Any replacements? What
should I install in it's place?
4004 [23:08:22] <Shawn|i7-720QM> what do the 3 different images
represent?
replaced-url
4005 [23:08:22] <towo`> the free radeon driver
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4007 [23:08:30] <jmcnaught> mandate20: presumably it is already
working with the free radeon driver
4008 [23:08:43] <sidetracking> jmcnaught i dont need any help and
i will smash the enter button when i feel like it
4009 [23:08:53] <towo`> mandate20, only firmware-amd-graphics is
needed for propper working
4010 [23:09:09] <sidetracking> im sorry but thats the lifestyle i
live
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4012 [23:09:12] <sidetracking> straight up lavish
4013 [23:09:20] <towo`> sidetracking, play elsewhere
4014 [23:09:23] <jmcnaught> sidetracking: this is a support
channel, not a rant channel. If you need help ask a detailed
question and provide the troubleshooting information requested
4015 [23:09:32] <mandate20> towo: thanks let's hope it has an
opencl directory or something
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4017 [23:10:36] <sidetracking> jmcnaught im praising debian and
aptitude
4018 [23:10:37] <klys> this is an agp ati card on an amd mp
system, p.sure it needs fglrx
4019 [23:10:42] <sidetracking> you don't have to listen
4020 [23:10:46] <jmcnaught> mandate20: there is mesa-opencl-icd.
lots of other packages with opencl in the name you could check too
4021 [23:11:18] <aataca> Hey, need some help with grep (or
possible find/awk), I need to focus on a directory with a bunch of
files, and i need to find certain lines (a pattern) in all of those
files, then output the results to another file, but I need to do
that file by file, meaning I don't want a large file as a list
of results, I need a new file that just has the results of what was
found, does that make sense? also, if you're knowledable
enough, I need the new files to be
4022 [23:11:18] <aataca> named the same as their source, but they
will be outputted in a separate directory
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4024 [23:11:52] <jmcnaught> sidetracking: please use
#debian-offtopic for non-support discussions
4025 [23:12:10] <towo`> klys, if it works with fglrx, it works
with radeon
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4027 [23:12:16] <sidetracking> but its not off topic
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4032 [23:12:47] <Shawn|i7-720QM> anyone?
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4039 [23:13:54] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: the first DVD contains
the most used packages, the second one less used packages, the third
least frequently used. Most people use the small netinst image, and
it downloads the necessary packages from a network mirror (instead
of copying from the disc), this almost always results in less
downloading over all
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4041 [23:14:21] <aataca> anyone know a better channel for my
question
4042 [23:14:28] <Shawn|i7-720QM> which one is recommended for
installing most faster?
4043 [23:14:30] <aataca> aka room
4044 [23:15:01] <towo`> Shawn|i7-720QM, the netinstall
4045 [23:15:23] <Shawn|i7-720QM> is that the first one?
4046 [23:15:27] <towo`> no
4047 [23:15:28] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM:
replaced-url
4048 [23:15:43] <jmcnaught> aataca: you could try #bash
4049 [23:15:54] <Shawn|i7-720QM> will it work on a 6400 series
scsi controller card?
4050 [23:16:11] <Shawn|i7-720QM> the card complains about needing
a firmware upgrade
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4052 [23:16:43] <Brigo> aataca, #bash
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4054 [23:17:02] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: if you refer to the
Debian install manual there is a chapter on how to deal with missing
firmwares during the upgrade. That chapter has a link to a netinst
image that contains most (but not all) available firmwares
4055 [23:17:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ahh nice
4056 [23:17:20] <mandate20> jmcnaught: receiving this error:
replaced-url
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4058 [23:17:29] <Shawn|i7-720QM> so its a good thing I'm
going to try debian on it
4059 [23:17:48] <jmcnaught> mandate20: when you do…?
4060 [23:18:07] <mandate20> jmcnaught: Well, not sure which
headers are required to install
4061 [23:18:08] <Shawn|i7-720QM> the server I'm using is a
netburst ProLiant ML350 G4P
4062 [23:18:38] <jmcnaught> mandate20: it looks like you are
compiling something from source? Install what? All of the
clairvoyants are on vacation. Also don't compile software as
root
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4064 [23:19:12] <towo`> mandate20, apt-cache search opencl dev
4065 [23:19:18] <mandate20> jmcnaught: I'll get back to you
shortly after some more testing
4066 [23:19:20] <mandate20> thanks towo
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4068 [23:19:39] <towo`> mandate20, then you yuo have enaugh
choices
4069 [23:19:55] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I would like to work with it from
this computer, so I dont have to keep running between rooms
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4071 [23:20:04] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: if that server works
with other distros of Linux, it will work with Debian. If it
requires a non-free firmware, it's possible to deal with that
during the installation
4072 [23:20:21] <towo`> mandate20, and the question from jmcnaught
was about "you get this masseage when you do what?"
4073 [23:20:29] <Shawn|i7-720QM> is there a way to find out if its
nonfree or free?
4074 [23:20:55] <towo`> mandate20, paste without any kontext is
absolute useless
4075 [23:21:03] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: research the hardware
online
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4077 [23:21:22] <towo`> i would use the non-free netinstall image
4078 [23:21:31] <mandate20> towo: I understand and agree, Need to
test a few things first
4079 [23:21:33] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I did, not finding much
4080 [23:21:38] <mandate20> thanks for the input (towo and jmc)
4081 [23:21:40] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: if you can get the
PCI-ID for the device "lspci -nn" then you can look it up
on
replaced-url
4082 [23:21:43] <towo`> then the chances are higher, that it will
work
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4084 [23:22:17] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I tried booting lubuntu 17.04 on
it, kept getting nmi watchdog soft lockupo on cpu #0 for 23 seconds
4085 [23:22:23] <Shawn|i7-720QM> *lockup
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4088 [23:23:10] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: i would read the
Debian install manual and then try installing, maybe you won't
have any issues at all, but if you do you can ask for help here:
replaced-url
4089 [23:23:30] <Shawn|i7-720QM> jmcnaught, I just downloaded the
netinstall you linkedmeto
4090 [23:23:46] <Shawn|i7-720QM> *linked me to
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4093 [23:25:01] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: cool, if you
don't read the entire manual make sure to look at 6.4 Loading
Missing Firmware
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4098 [23:27:17] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ooh has an option to install with
speech synthesis, the server doesn't have audio hardware though
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4105 [23:31:00] <Shawn|i7-720QM> PCI audio card wont fit in a
PCI-X system
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4111 [23:33:52] <br> how do i disable loud beep in xfce? it
happens everytime i press delete on keyboard
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4125 [23:39:27] <th0r> br: try this 'xset b off '
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4130 [23:39:58] <br> ok, works for now
4131 [23:40:04] <br> its scared the crap out of me just now
4132 [23:40:09] <br> such an annoying sound
4133 [23:40:17] <th0r> br: you can always put it in a small script
and add it to 'Session and Startup'
4134 [23:40:35] <br> wait, it restarts everytime i turn on my
laptop?
4135 [23:41:29] <th0r> br: detailed info here...replaced-url
4136 [23:41:35] <br> thank you!
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4145 [23:45:52] <Shawn|i7-720QM> well, debian doesn't want to
boot
4146 [23:46:26] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: what does it do
instead?
4147 [23:46:37] <Shawn|i7-720QM> does rufus break debian distros?
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4150 [23:46:43] <jmcnaught> yes
4151 [23:46:59] <Shawn|i7-720QM> thats the only efficient way I
have to install an operating system to the server
4152 [23:47:00] <jmcnaught> !rufus
4153 [23:47:00] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make
bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use
with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and
unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about
<hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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4155 [23:47:20] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ah
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4157 [23:47:36] <Shawn|i7-720QM> are there usb net install disks?
4158 [23:47:44] <Shawn|i7-720QM> an unetbootin
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4160 [23:47:52] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: if you have another
Linux computer you can simply use "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX"
to copy the image to USB. The image is already partitioned, so make
sure you copy to the device, not a partition
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4162 [23:48:10] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I dont have another linux
computer running
4163 [23:48:31] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: then "/msg dpkg
win32diskimager" and use that
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4165 [23:48:54] <br> ok, that worked perfectly @th0r thanks once
again
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4167 [23:49:20] <th0r> br: :)
4168 [23:49:36] <Shawn|i7-720QM> using unetbootin
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4172 [23:50:05] <jmcnaught> Shawn|i7-720QM: that breaks things
too… please follow the directions provided.
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4175 [23:50:22] <Brigo> !UNetbootin
4176 [23:50:23] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer)
allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux
distributions.
replaced-url
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4179 [23:51:30] * Shawn|i7-720QM facepalms
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4181 [23:51:44] <Shawn|i7-720QM> why is debian so stubborn
4182 [23:51:57] <Shawn|i7-720QM> dog gone stubborn
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4188 [23:53:03] <ZSky> if I do a script.sh "cd /blah/
(newline) cat blah1 blah2" it works
4189 [23:53:09] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I thought unetbootin was the
officially supported way to make a usb net install disk
4190 [23:53:13] <ZSky> but at the end it goes back to where I was
initially
4191 [23:53:18] <ZSky> and it doesn't stay in /blah/
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4193 [23:53:19] <ZSky> why?
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4197 [23:54:53] <Shawn|i7-720QM> they failed to label which
download is for usb
replaced-url
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4199 [23:55:56] <Shawn|i7-720QM> they tell you what you can do and
ommit the Download USB disk here, or Download cd image here pointers
4200 [23:56:04] <Shawn|i7-720QM> *usb disk image
4201 [23:56:07] <ZSky> why, if there is a cd /blah/ in a
script.sh, it doesn't stay there after the script has finished?
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4209 [23:57:46] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Please...somebody?
4210 [23:57:56] <ZSky> Please...somebody? (too)
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4212 [23:58:15] <Shawn|i7-720QM> they are probably wallowing in
laughter
4213 [23:58:37] <Shawn|i7-720QM> in their pride of knowing this
secret
4214 [23:58:53] <th0r> Shawn|i7-720QM: I just reinstalled Jessie
on my laptop yesterday. I just downloaded cd1 and copied it to a usb
drive, then boot off the drive
4215 [23:58:56] <Shawn|i7-720QM> that prevents me from downloading
the correct format distro
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