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3[00:01:59] <toli> guys, any one tried to install Deb on X1
carbon gen 2 with touch screen?
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6[00:04:46] <petn-randall> toli: Usually the wiki is a good
source for that, or a google search which might find you
someone's blog.
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8[00:05:14] <petn-randall> toli: If you're currently
installing it, though, you can ask about specific problems
you're having and how to work around them.
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12[00:06:23] <toli> petn-randall: thank you for the info, I am
still waiting the machine, but as I didn't found anyone
installing debian on it, I thought I can ask here
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14[00:07:01] <jhutchins> MarioMey: Debian sometimes needs you
to install non-free firmware that other distros install
automatically. Take a look at your syslog and the output of dmesg,
look up your chipset (lspci -nn) and see what it takes to support it
on debian.
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18[00:07:57] <toli> normally it should work, but I never had a
touchscreen before on debian
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80[00:26:47] <IHaveNoName> What do i do guys to make a sopel
bot on debian
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85[00:27:40] <Mathisen> what is a sopel bot ?
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89[00:28:09] <IHaveNoName> Its an irc bot
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90[00:28:25] <IHaveNoName> hey red
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92[00:28:31] <red-001> hi IHaveNoName
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94[00:28:44] <red-001> ah your bear
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95[00:28:46] <IHaveNoName> Im bear on inchra btw
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96[00:28:51] <IHaveNoName> lol
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97[00:28:55] <Mathisen> just install the bot and run it then
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98[00:28:57] <teraflops> IHaveNoName: sudo pip install is a bad
idea because you install python stuff under / and it will eventually
conflicts with debian stuff installed with the package manager
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100[00:29:18] <teraflops> conflict^
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101[00:29:22] <IHaveNoName> Mathisen not that simple
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105[00:29:40] <IHaveNoName> teraflops what do i do then?
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106[00:30:02] <teraflops> IHaveNoName: either use virtualenv or
pip install --user
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107[00:30:10] <IHaveNoName> Ok
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109[00:30:43] <IHaveNoName> Whats virtualend?
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110[00:30:45] <IHaveNoName> *env
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113[00:32:24] <teraflops> a folder that has all the python stuff
for making the app work, not relying/messing with systemwide python
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115[00:32:47] <IHaveNoName> I dont have that folder
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116[00:32:50] <teraflops> kind if chroot
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118[00:33:12] <teraflops> of^
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121[00:33:30] <IHaveNoName> Hm, ive never used chroot
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124[00:34:30] <teraflops> IHaveNoName: so basically you do have
0 idea of python
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125[00:34:50] <teraflops> then this is not the right channel
I'm afraid
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127[00:34:58] <IHaveNoName> No i know some python but i never
used chroot
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128[00:35:13] <teraflops> I said virtualenv
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129[00:35:51] <teraflops> kind of chroot because when you
activate it, it adjusts paths
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131[00:37:18] <IHaveNoName> Ok
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135[00:38:30] <Mathisen> is it a must to run pip with sudo ?
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136[00:38:41] <Mathisen> why not just run pip as regular user ?
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139[00:39:00] <petn-randall> teraflops: I've heard
current-gen Intel CPUs need a newer kernel to work. Don't have
any first-hand experience, though.
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145[00:41:55] <teraflops> petn-randall: is this about the issue
with debian6 from hours ago?
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149[00:44:18] <teraflops> if yes, I think youre right
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165[00:53:20] <IHaveNoName> teraflops i installed virtualenv and
shortly after doing 2 commands it says
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166[00:53:30] <IHaveNoName> Installing setup, pip
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168[00:53:48] <IHaveNoName> Does that mean i can use pip
commands now?
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189[01:04:32] <MarioMey> Well, I finally installed Debian 9. Not
any Kernel Panic more, nVidia is working, TP-Link modem working...
now, I have to install everything again. Question:
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190[01:04:44] <MarioMey> I have this command: "sudo apt-get
install synaptic audacious audacity gimp inkscape virtualbox cdcat
terminator dconf-editor pavucontrol baobab qjackctl patchage
qasmixer ardour calf-plugins wmctrl gstreamer1.0-tools"
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193[01:05:30] <MarioMey> To install almost all programs I use.
But there're some of them that are not in Debian repositories.
It's Ok, I'll look for them late...
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196[01:05:52] <MarioMey> But console says: E: El paquete
«virtualbox» no tiene un candidato para la
instalación" and it doesn't continue.
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197[01:06:15] <MarioMey> Is any way to ignore that error message
and continue installing everything else?
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198[01:06:41] <IHaveNoName> Idk
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199[01:07:43] <mutante> MarioMey: why not just remove the word
"virtualbox" from that line
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200[01:08:08] <mutante> that would be ignoring that it doesnt
exist but do everything else :)
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201[01:08:21] <MarioMey> It is an option.
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202[01:08:28] <MarioMey> :D
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204[01:08:47] <mutante> i was going to joke with something like
pipe it into sed 's/virtualbox//g'
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209[01:09:28] <forcerecon> Kernel Self Protection Project.. read
it
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211[01:09:37] <MarioMey> mutante: I thougth there was an option
in apt-get... but it wasn't.
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220[01:12:43] <forcerecon> Qubes + Whonix + tails +debian.=
WHOA>>. That would be awesome
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221[01:12:55] <mutante> MarioMey: there is "apt-get -f
install" to ignore some depdency issues or so, but can't
ignore that a package simply doesnt exist.. afaict
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225[01:17:11] <IHaveNoName> mutante
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226[01:17:18] <IHaveNoName> Ive used virtua
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227[01:17:24] <IHaveNoName> *virtualenv
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229[01:17:32] <IHaveNoName> And idk what to do now
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297[01:58:25] <Mathisen> dumb question but you did update also i
hope :)
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298[01:58:56] <Mathisen> nevermind i cant read
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303[01:59:44] <Mathisen> rebooted ?
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304[01:59:51] <Mathisen> kernel updates
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324[02:03:34] <mutante> are you sure that actually reads from
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325[02:03:53] <Mathisen> also what is output from uname -r ?
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330[02:04:37] <xboot> ,v virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
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331[02:04:38] <judd> Package: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso on
amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 4.1.18-1; wheezy-backports/non-free:
4.3.18-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 4.3.18-3;
jessie-backports/non-free: 5.1.8-1~bpo8+1; buster/non-free:
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333[02:05:07] <Guest2429> Cc argentina i need
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382[02:17:48] <Mathisen> this is getting confusing now, so you
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383[02:17:55] <Mathisen> so you realy want to downgrade ?
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392[02:18:39] <Guest2429> 14213935 4548500015550437 04/19 060
CLAUD LENTINELLO Address City State ZIP ARGENTINA Phone gggd
28.01-ARmixP2 Check Mon, 01/05/2017 - 06:37 NOT
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410[02:23:16] <jmcnaught> !ops Guest2429
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411[02:23:17] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: Guest2429
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423[02:28:47] <xboot> what should i use on debian: icedove or
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424[02:28:57] <xboot> for better support and privacy
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427[02:30:20] <johhny> Hi, I cannot use Postfix with an ECC
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428[02:30:49] <johhny> tls_high_cipherlist =
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433[02:31:39] <xboot> ,v icedove
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434[02:31:40] <judd> Package: icedove on amd64 -- wheezy:
38.7.0-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1;
wheezy-security: 1:45.6.0-2~deb7u1; wheezy-security:
1:45.8.0-3~deb7u1; jessie-security: 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1; jessie:
1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1; stretch: 1:45.8.0-3; sid: 1:45.8.0-3; buster:
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435[02:31:43] <xboot> ,v thunderbird
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436[02:31:44] <judd> Package: thunderbird on amd64 --
wheezy-security: 1:45.8.0-3~deb7u1; jessie: 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1;
jessie-security: 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1; stretch: 1:45.8.0-3; buster:
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464[02:55:08] <dunderproto> Are any system components in debian
written in c++? I'm wondering if it is a language worth
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468[02:57:28] <mutante> dunderproto: quote from Linus "
"In fact, in Linux we did try C++ once already, back in 1992.
It sucks. Trust me - writing kernel code in C++ is a BLOODY STUPID
IDEA."
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470[02:57:40] <mutante> dunderproto: i don't claim i know
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473[02:57:57] <dunderproto> mutante: I do recall a lot of hatred
towards c++
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475[02:58:35] <mutante> dunderproto: found it again on
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476[02:58:48] <dvs> dunderproto, jealously! ;-)
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482[03:02:04] <jmcnaught> dunderproto: there's a debtag
implemented-in::c++ so you can search for software written in C++
using aptitude's search filter for debtags: "aptitude
search ~Gimplemented-in::c++"
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483[03:02:18] <TomG2> apt is the lowest-level Debian component
written in C I know offhand
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484[03:02:22] <TomG2> I mean, C++
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485[03:02:52] <TomG2> I don't think you should learn C++,
just go to
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488[03:03:07] <dunderproto> jmcnaught: thanks, I forgot about
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489[03:03:32] <jmcnaught> dunderproto: learning a language like
C++ would not be a waste of your time, there's quite a bit that
you would be able to transfer to other languages. If it's your
first language, you might feel more productive at an earlier point
if you learn a dynamic language like Python or PHP
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496[03:09:05] <metrix> when upgrading to stretch.. any
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590[03:51:00] <m8r[m]> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: MoDaXaS
Stummi kinopu ikanobori dunderproto peteski apollojustice
BenderRodriguez thims cronic bobvador HeWho ygeLN dirac1 soahccc
serban johnnyfive simbalion SpeedBus |DM| degenerate Cyph3r tomreyn
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medicalwei Phil` spont4e rebrec slugmx electro7 rudi_s Linuturk
Shahnaz dvs geir_ me4 olegfusion Hydroxide awhitlock8 tx s
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591[03:51:00] <nspoyp> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: sparty kolla
AntiSpamMeta Kev- kimico rxo IdleGandalf hassoon juhop cnu- rogst
tobiasBora grift melvin Guest90954 ajp fonshua egos esainane zwamkat
ramshadow zz_phar6oor croddy riot Riviera- funabashi jonty
petn-randall sobkas Penix psmolen ^GoD^ Janhouse ValodiaDeSeynes
_aeris_ SkIzZaTo incal adan0s grey_ thuk Piper-Off plicease nickle
k4tfish rax0 kneekoo2 LeandroLuiz monoxane indrora digdilem
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594[03:51:00] <ahqvag> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: mpmc
allorder disi sputnik Namidairo Amplificator Orochimarufan Anarchic
hue k4y4mm Celelibi Subfusc pipeep jtdowney Dreadnaught Rubin royiv
medicalwei Messenger_bird nickstenn kwmiebach krups paulgrmn NoCode
Ben64 CEnnis91 gre mingdao thiagoss riot refresher rebrec agustafson
s0ph0s GhostInTheShell peter5 CompWizrd kirb shinnya hexa-
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596[03:51:00] <qvxlwhlu> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: gwolf23
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597[03:51:00] <ahqvag> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: Trellmor
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jken pixel_yo tx Noah0504 Mmike dos1 royiv EnergyCoffee__ Blanco
pseubodot gareth__ Orphis Hijiri quite dexta Scotteh MasterNayru
Poster pixdam Janhouse qtch_ przemoc Dan_au
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598[03:51:00] <srbvcp> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: boser
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599[03:51:00] <ggjjhz[m]> quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: dasher00
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Bercik aaronr ghoti nbastin bpsecret Hestben jesopo waynr mRokita
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612[03:51:11] <ASpacy> rip
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613[03:51:13] <kneekoo2> again?!
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616[03:51:29] <jf0o23> every day at this same time...
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617[03:51:59] <ASpacy> mute the channel at this time tomorrow!
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622[04:00:03] <NoCode> Daily occurrence. holy shit.
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623[04:00:20] <Noah0504> What the heck was all that?
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624[04:02:19] <jmcnaught> it's spam, the network does its
best to deal with it, talking about it just adds to the noise
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627[04:04:13] <tx> They should reconsider their use of onion
links if they want to reach a larger user base.
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628[04:04:16] <tx> 0.5 / 10.
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629[04:04:50] <slugmx> looks like its an irc server accessible
via tor, no?
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630[04:04:55] <tx> yes
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632[04:05:16] <Svetlana>
replaced-url
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633[04:05:24] <Svetlana> btc the end
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634[04:05:27] <Svetlana>
replaced-url
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668[04:13:00] <bazhang> does #debian have the language offshoot
channels
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669[04:13:47] <dvs> yes
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671[04:14:08] <bazhang> such as #debian-es then
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672[04:14:13] <dvs> yes
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673[04:14:16] <dvs> !es
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674[04:14:17] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en
Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en
Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join
#debian-es en la línea de chat.
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675[04:14:23] <bazhang> cheers
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676[04:14:37] <dvs> ciao
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677[04:15:08] <bazhang> !cn
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678[04:15:09] <dpkg> 如果您想要以中文得到 Debian
相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot
頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC
程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
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679[04:15:12] <jmcnaught> bazhang: a good list here:
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680[04:15:24] <jmcnaught> (not just languages)
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681[04:15:29] <bazhang> thanks jmcnaught
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682[04:15:45] <bazhang> loco/lugs too
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738[04:38:46] <altker128> Hey guys. I think a Debian mirror is
missing a package which is causing a failure on installation . How
do I report this?
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763[04:52:43] <jcarder> can someone help me with Debian 9
installation, I'm having some weird problems.
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773[04:55:55] <jcarder> I installed the live deb9 kde 64bit ISO
onto a bootable usb drive, then I tested it out on my windows 7 pc,
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will boot but once in the gui it, every few seconds it crashes
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958[07:08:56] <pragomer> I used autologin in stretch with mate
de like this in lightdm.conf:
replaced-url
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967[07:14:12] <pragomer> so how to use autologin in debian with
the possibility to logout if I want?
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970[07:15:22] <jmcnaught> pragomer: did you ask in #ubuntu?
Unity isn't in Debian :P
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971[07:15:36] <pragomer> I am only using debian with mate
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972[07:16:00] <pragomer> there is the word unity in that file
because I copied and pasted it somewhre from internet
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974[07:16:44] <jmcnaught> oh i see. have you tried a different
value for the timeout than 0?
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977[07:17:07] <pragomer> not yet. doing it now and I will be
back in few minutes
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986[07:22:05] <pragomer> did not work. I set timout to 5..
dpkg-reconfigured lightdm and rebootet. after that I landed in tty
and had to login there and startx
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989[07:23:11] <jmcnaught> !confnew
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990[07:23:11] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force
dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can
also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install
<packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall
<packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
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991[07:23:40] <jmcnaught> pragomer: if you want to reset the
config file to default ^^ and then start over
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996[07:26:37] <nvz> blah.. idk if this is a hw issue, or a
kernel bug my system has been sluggish for a couple hours and i
thought it was just the load, but ive now stopped all non essential
progs and svcs only to see the prob remains, cpu cores are spiking
intermittantly, and nothing running seems to be doing it, so i start
checking logs and i see dmsg flooded completly full with [ARISC
ERROR] :hw message queue fifo full
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997[07:26:43] <nvz> timeout about every 8 seconds with the same
address info
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999[07:27:26] <nvz> idk what fifo this is, but im pretty sure
the kernel or hw was suppose to clear it or something
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1003[07:29:13] <dka_> How can I install make on debian jessie ?
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1004[07:29:35] <dka_> I have tried "apt-get install
make" but ""E: Package 'make' has no
installation candidate""
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1005[07:29:59] <jmcnaught> ,v make
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1006[07:30:01] <judd> Package: make on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.81-8.2;
jessie: 4.0-8.1; buster: 4.1-9.1; sid: 4.1-9.1; stretch: 4.1-9.1
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1007[07:30:05] <nvz> dka_: apt-get install build-essential
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1008[07:30:38] <jmcnaught> dka_: you probably have a problem with
your sources. they should look like the example on this page:
replaced-url
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1011[07:31:22] <jmcnaught> and yes, build-essential will also
pull in other packages often used together with make
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1013[07:31:57] <nvz> youre not gonna 'make' much
without the rest of the utils
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1016[07:36:23] <nvz> i had better reboot i suppose, my fifo
became a nino
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1017[07:36:41] <nvz> nothing in nothing out
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1030[07:45:21] <dka_> E: Unable to locate package build-essential
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1031[07:45:22] <dka_> The command '/bin/sh -c apt-get
install build-essential -y' returned a non-zero code: 100
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1034[07:46:21] <jmcnaught> dka_: check your sources, i gave you a
link above with info and an example
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1037[07:46:31] <dka_> jmcnaught, I am using an image
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1038[07:46:34] <dka_> FROM buildpack-deps:jessie-scm
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1039[07:46:41] <dka_> it's docker, I am failing during the
build
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1040[07:47:02] <jmcnaught> your docker image does not have
/etc/apt/sources.list configured properly
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1057[08:01:45] <nvz> whats the term for subtitles that are
encoded into a video but not hardcoded so they can be turned off?
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1103[08:37:28] <pingfloyd> anyone else having troubles
communicating to security.debian.org via apt-get update?
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1116[08:45:16] <jmcnaught> pingfloyd: it was a little slow for me
but it came through eventually. if you're still having trouble
you could also try
replaced-url
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1117[08:46:36] <pingfloyd> thanks. It's no big deal, just
wanted to verify the problems wasn't on my end.
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I'm real patient with it
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1144[09:00:02] <dka_> E: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
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1145[09:00:05] <dka_> How do I fix this ?
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1146[09:00:13] <dka_> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run
apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
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1147[09:00:13] <dka_> The command '/bin/sh -c apt-get -y
update && /container/tool/add-service-available :ssl-tools
&& LC_ALL=C DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install
-y --force-yes --no-install-recommends ldap-utils openssl slapd
&& apt-get clean && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
/tmp/* /var/tmp/*' returned a non-zero code: 100
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1148[09:00:13] <dka_> Makefile:9: recipe for target
'build' failed
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1149[09:00:23] <jer0me> wait for security to come back maybe
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1150[09:00:38] <dka_> you can't ping it ?
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1151[09:00:48] <jer0me> 100% [Connecting to security.debian.org
(128.101.240.215)]
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1161[09:01:25] <jer0me> dka_: this is the output of apt-get
update
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1162[09:01:39] <dka_> so is security down or up?
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1163[09:02:01] <jer0me> dka_: down I guess. I don't know the
reason.
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1165[09:03:08] <dka_> 64 bytes from setoguchi.debian.org
(133.242.99.74): icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=617 ms
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1170[09:03:47] <dka_> can anyone confirm is security is up or
down ?
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1171[09:03:56] <dka_> I can ping and I can access http service
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1172[09:04:44] <klys> it was up and slow last anyone said
anything. you can use
replaced-url
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1179[09:06:13] <jer0me> dka_: maybe try without ipv6
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1180[09:06:18] <jer0me> dka_: -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true
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1182[09:06:46] <jelly> works for me, but I get mirrors in europe
not that one
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1187[09:07:29] <funabashi> Hi guys, how can i see bandwidth with
the wget command ?
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1210[09:16:43] <pingfloyd> dka_: I think it is on their end, and
you just have to wait it out
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1213[09:17:34] <pingfloyd> seems to be working now for me
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1241[09:34:54] <Wulf> Good Morning!
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1242[09:35:23] <Wulf> Is there a way to blacklist a package so it
won't get installed by apt-get or aptitude?
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1262[09:45:58] <makalu> can I install recommended packages of a
package AFTER I've already installed the package?
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1265[09:46:34] <makalu> I installed xfce4 with
--no-install-recommends and it's relatively lacking
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1270[09:49:57] <makalu> ok I can use "apt-cache
depends". Not ideal but it's helpful.
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1286[10:03:28] <jmcnaught> makalu: try doing a search with
aptitude's reverse dependency filter like: "aptitude
search ~Rrecommends:task-xfce-desktop" for the xfce task
package. If the list looks okay, you can replace 'search'
with 'install' in the aptitude command
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1287[10:03:42] <jmcnaught> on a new stretch install you'll
need to install aptitude
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1289[10:04:50] <fraggeln> Hello dear people
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1291[10:05:22] <fraggeln> I have a small issue with preseeding,
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1292[10:05:30] <fraggeln> how can I supress this warning in the
preseed file?
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1295[10:05:49] <fraggeln>
replaced-url
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1300[10:06:51] <fraggeln> Using stretch btw.
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1317[10:14:49] <shodan`> After the Stretch upgrade a lot of stuff
broke and I'm having a hard time fixing it. Things like iSCSI
breaking etc
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1319[10:15:07] <shodan`> Any way of fixing this issue?
"iscsid: can not create NETLINK_ISCSI socket"
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1322[10:16:52] <EFPS> Morning from Germany isend there a
Screenshot gui for lightdm debian wheezy
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1333[10:21:55] <pragomer> how so autostart a script
(independently from desktop environment, using i3) under stretch?
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1355[10:31:37] <TTSC> Morning - Do any of you have experience
running Vmware Workstation on Stretch? I have a hell of a time
getting 9.0.4 to work, considdering throwing money at the problem
and upgrading to 12.x but not sure it'll help any
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1360[10:34:44] <spacemn> Hi all, I have a problem with a tplink
wireless NIC (PCIE) chipset is Atheros AR9287, with Stretch tranfer
speed is lower than 30 Mbit/s (iperf3 with another Debian box
connected to the AP via ethernet), a Dell notebook is above 80
Mbit/s again with iperf3, with Jessie never noticed slow transfers
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1362[10:35:06] <familiargalaxy> pragomer: edit /etc/rc.local and
add the location of script
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1364[10:35:36] <spacemn> I suspect an issue with regulatory
domain, as the iw command reports CN (China) as country
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1367[10:36:43] <spacemn> I already set my country code in
/etc/default/crda but it's somewhat ignored
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1370[10:37:58] <familiargalaxy> mabynogy: hello
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1371[10:38:03] <spacemn> I think I've read someone suggest a
tplink broken firmware
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1373[10:38:29] <mabynogy> hi familiargalaxy
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1385[10:41:59] <spacemn> I'm tempted to fix it modifying the
wireless-regdb package, ah with a Dell notebook iperf3 reports more
than 80 Mbit/s
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1419[11:02:10] <eugenmayer> my debian server crashed and now, on
starting it, it just stallls on the mysql service, printing dots for
minutes. Any way to stop mysql from starting to see what the acual
issue is?
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1424[11:04:04] <fraggeln> eugenmayer: boot up in single user
mode.
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1458[11:19:41] <chumphries> it should only print dots for a set
period of time before the startup script assumes the service
didn't' start. Are you unable to ssh into the server? If
you can, you can stop and start the service manually to see.
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1462[11:20:47] <jim> if I am using the efi frame buffer rather
than the vga frame buffer, do the virtual consoles use that frame
buffer? how can I control the font size? (used to be, I'd start
by booting with kernel parameter vga=ask, that still work?)
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1467[11:22:15] <andre144k> hi all
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1470[11:24:40] <andre144k> i installed a new debian 9 system -
and changed "/etc/network/interfaces" to static
ipv4-address:
replaced-url
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1471[11:24:55] <chumphries> jim: wish I knew, never did that
before. curious to know the answer
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1472[11:25:00] <chumphries> morning andre144k
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1473[11:25:26] <chumphries> (relative to me anyhow)
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1475[11:26:08] <jim> ok, thanks
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1476[11:26:09] <andre144k> after restarting service via
"systemctl restart networking.service" i have only
interface lo, not ens32
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1477[11:26:15] <andre144k> and no networking connection
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1478[11:26:27] <andre144k> after rebooting it works fine again
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1479[11:26:32] <jim> what dist
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1480[11:26:37] <andre144k> anyone have an idea?
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1481[11:26:42] <andre144k> debian 9
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1483[11:27:37] <jim> debian? then look at
/etc/network/interfaces, and maybe pastebin that... you can: cat
/etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 9999
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1484[11:28:12] <andre144k> @jim:
replaced-url
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1490[11:30:40] <jim> looks good...
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1493[11:31:07] <andre144k> yes, its working after rebooting
perfect
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1494[11:31:19] <andre144k> but - not after restarting
networking-service
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1496[11:31:36] <jim> you say you "have" only that
interface... can you reproduce the situation, then look at ifconfig
-a to see what interfaces are there?
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1500[11:33:37] <andre144k> ifconfig -a is showing ens32 - without
ip-address
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1501[11:33:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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1502[11:34:03] <jim> hi
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1503[11:34:23] <BluesKaj> hi jim
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1504[11:34:54] <andre144k> i can reproduce the problem - when i
restart networking service after reboot, same problem
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1512[11:37:18] <jim> andre144k, I wonder if dmesg shows anything
interesting right after you restart the networking service
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1522[11:42:49] <Iridos> andre144k, I think you can have
"auto ens32" and allow-hotplug ens32 both… and
should
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1562[12:01:12] <forcerecon> How did the security advisory get the
logo for debian in the top of the emails
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1563[12:01:16] <forcerecon> that is freaking awesome
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1566[12:01:52] <andre144k> Iridos, jim "allow-hotpung
ens32" was default after setup
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1567[12:01:54] <forcerecon> its only the one from Sebastien
though
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1568[12:02:08] <andre144k> i didnt changed
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1576[12:02:49] <jim> that's what makes it put up the
interface at boot
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1579[12:03:33] <andre144k> ahh - it works fine wih "auto
ens32"
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1581[12:03:46] <Freenoodle> hi, it seems mozilla.debian.net has
discontinued,
replaced-url
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1582[12:03:53] <andre144k> thnx Iridos, jim - problem solved :)
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1585[12:04:53] <jim> good job :)
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1590[12:07:50] <jim> Freenoodle, I tried the address, the site
does respond, it does look like something's discontinued
because rust is needed to build it
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1593[12:08:55] <andre144k> jim, yes - yours :)
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1602[12:11:58] <Tylertwo> Hey, I'm trying to read a SD card.
I have a SD -> USB device, but my computer doesn't seem to
recognize it. I've ran lsusb and dmesg | tail and whatnot, and
the outputs are the same with the card connected or not. Any ideas?
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1605[12:13:17] <andre144k> arg - next problem....
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1606[12:13:48] <oerheks> Tylertwo, it can be 2 causes: 1. the
reader cannot read your card, limited size like 16 gb rr 32 gb. 2.
the reader is not supported.
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1609[12:14:21] <andre144k> i changed static ipadress in
"/etc/network/interfaces" - after restarting service i
have old adress again :-/ (systemctl stop networking; systemctl
start networking)
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1610[12:14:26] <Freenoodle> jim, Wondering why firefox isn't
in Debian backports instead...
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1611[12:14:34] <Tylertwo> oerheks, hm, its a inateck reader
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1612[12:14:52] <oerheks> Tylertwo, does it work on an other
machine with linux?
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1614[12:15:23] <Tylertwo> oerheks, My friend has a Mac and it
doesn't really work for him either.. so it could be the
hardware?
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1615[12:15:26] <BluesKaj> Tylertwo, try a sdcard reader rather
then a usb, had the same problem, the sdcard reader worked
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1616[12:15:56] <oerheks> Tylertwo, broken hardware, possible
option 3, yes
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1620[12:18:05] <oerheks> not having a lsusb output makes
determination more difficult too. maybe it is a known issue.
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1623[12:19:53] <Tylertwo> oerheks,
replaced-url
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1628[12:21:15] <sinelaw> Hi, what's the difference between
the packages libdwarf-freebsd-dev and libdwarf-dev? What exactly
does "FreeBSD version" mean for this library?
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1630[12:21:21] <oerheks> line #8 8ff:2810] AuthenTec, Inc.
AES2810 is a fingerprint reader
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1631[12:21:37] <oerheks> so it does not show up :-(
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1632[12:21:43] <sinelaw> is it the same library just packaged
differently, or completely different implementations?
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1633[12:21:51] <Tylertwo> BluesKaj, what's the difference
between a sdcard reader and what I'm describing?
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1636[12:23:05] <sinelaw> I see the freebsd one comes from
freebsd-libs source package, and the plain one comes from dwarfutils
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1643[12:28:14] <Tylertwo> Thanks for the ideas.
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1648[12:30:24] <BluesKaj> oops too late...
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1761[13:28:31] <familiargalaxy> Freenoodle:
replaced-url
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1771[13:36:18] <Cl0udN9ne> is 151.8.101.204 a debian link?
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1772[13:36:18] <Cl0udN9ne> s/link/ip
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1773[13:36:18] <Cl0udN9ne> bcoz its accessing my laptop and
getting changelogs about various softawares in my laptop
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1774[13:36:57] <Cl0udN9ne> all i know tht its a corporate conn
and situated in san francisco
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1777[13:37:59] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps what part of this is my
pci stubs ?
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1778[13:38:01] <Eryn_1983_FL> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller:
NVIDIA Corporation Device 1402 (rev a1)
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1780[13:41:12] <Cl0udN9ne> whats worring me is tht even after
multiple tries at blocking it with iptables it wasnt being blocked
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1783[13:42:14] <tremolo> Eryn_1983_FL: PCI ID? It's not
there. try `lspci -nn`
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1784[13:42:29] <funabashi> hi guys ist possible to restart a
process with kill command ?
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1786[13:42:54] <tremolo> That should get you a line like this:
"00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev
02)" where the PCI ID is 8086:0046
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1791[13:46:26] <familiargalaxy> funabashi: yes it is possible
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1792[13:46:41] <babilen> Cl0udN9ne: Why do you think it's a
Debian related IP and why would Debian "accessing my laptop and
getting changelogs about various softawares in my laptop" in
the first place?
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1793[13:46:45] <familiargalaxy> but only for the ones installed
through apt and not manually compiled
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1799[13:47:23] <Cl0udN9ne> babilen: im just guessing,no other
meanings
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1802[13:48:02] <Cl0udN9ne> i get this crazy ips connecting to my
laptop and accessing data from me
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1805[13:48:12] <babilen> Cl0udN9ne: Okay, start at the beginning:
How do you know that it is accessing your laptop (as in incoming) or
providing changelogs ?
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1806[13:48:19] <mrr0butt> Cl0udN9ne, you could try to find out
which proces it is
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1807[13:48:21] <mrr0butt> netstat -A inet -p
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1808[13:48:22] <Cl0udN9ne> just getting to know more about whats
going on
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1809[13:48:31] <tremolo> Cl0udN9ne: What makes you think that it
is getting changelogs? By what mechanism?
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1810[13:48:50] <Cl0udN9ne> tremolo: i checked it via wireshark
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1811[13:48:50] <mrr0butt> this will show ip and pid of process
accessing this ip
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1812[13:48:57] <funabashi> familiargalaxy: which command ?
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1814[13:49:03] <Cl0udN9ne> mrr0butt: i could like to know how
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1815[13:49:14] <Cl0udN9ne> ok
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1817[13:50:22] <funabashi> familiargalaxy:
replaced-url
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1819[13:51:10] <Cl0udN9ne> babilen: its this morning...i opened
my laptop and while i was waiting for my browser to update,i saw my
network graph in conky go high ...so i checked netstat and found
this ip besides freenode some ip connected to my computer on some
port(45xxx,i dont remember)
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1822[13:51:47] <Cl0udN9ne> so i tried to block it using iptables
and iptables-save,had 5 or so entries but it didnt still get blocked
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1823[13:52:18] <Cl0udN9ne> atm trying seeing the wireshark guides
to get to know whats happening
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1824[13:52:26] <tremolo> Cl0udN9ne: Are you sure it wasn't
your computer connecting, as for an apt update?
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1825[13:52:40] <Cl0udN9ne> no,i didnt do an apt-update
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1826[13:53:01] <funabashi> pkill -HUP <process> ?
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1828[13:54:02] <familiargalaxy> funabashi: yes kill -HUP
<PID>
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1829[13:54:13] <funabashi> but if it has 3 pids?
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1830[13:54:16] <Cl0udN9ne> all i know is its trying to check and
download debian packagee changelogs(via wireshark),the ip is a
corporate ip and located in san francisco,and tht it downloaded some
one hundred mb of data
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1834[13:55:45] <familiargalaxy> funabashi: try them one by one
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1835[13:56:27] <funabashi> familiargalaxy: what about kill `pidof
dropbox`
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1837[13:56:34] <mrr0butt> run: netstat -A inet -p | grep
151\.8\.101\.204
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1838[13:56:35] <funabashi> dropbear*
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1840[13:57:09] <mrr0butt> the last column is pid/name
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1841[13:57:33] <tremolo> or: killall -HUP dropbear
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1846[13:59:04] <familiargalaxy> funabashi: use killall in that
case as such : killall -HUP <PID>
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1850[13:59:50] <familiargalaxy> or replace <PID> with
dropbear if necessary
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1857[14:01:17] <funabashi> it didnt restart :/
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1875[14:06:32] <jmcnaught> funabashi: how did you start dropbear?
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1882[14:09:36] <familiargalaxy> funabashi: try killall -1
dropbear
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1886[14:12:18] <funabashi>
replaced-url
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1889[14:12:52] <familiargalaxy> funabashi: ??
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1892[14:18:00] <jmcnaught> if you didn't start dropbear
manually, then you should be using systemctl to restart it
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1894[14:18:49] <Mahe> Cl0udN9ne, check if the package
"apt-config-auto-update" is installed
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1900[14:20:33] <Mahe> Cl0udN9ne, also check for
"APT::Periodic::*" entries in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* files
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1911[14:23:52] <Cl0udN9ne> Mahe: dpkg -l | grep apt-config gives
nothing
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1948[14:44:10] <xboot> my debian Stretch keeps changing
constantly the DNS of at resolv.conf, i am using LXDE and Wicd
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1949[14:44:20] <xboot> i have removed avahi daemon
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1950[14:44:34] <xboot> i have indicated manual DNS servers in
Wicd for my wireless connection
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1955[14:45:37] <xboot> but waiting some 5 or more minutes it
changes to the gateways' IP in resolv.conf
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1957[14:45:45] <xboot> what is a script i need to look at?
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1972[14:52:04] <forcerecon> Error! Bad return status for module
build on kernel: 4.9.0-3-amd64 (x86_64)
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1973[14:52:04] <forcerecon> Consult
/var/lib/dkms/fglrx/15.9/build/make.log for more information.
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1974[14:52:04] <forcerecon> Consult
/var/lib/dkms/virtualbox-guest/4.3.36/build/make.log for more
information.
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1975[14:52:16] <forcerecon> got some issues with the dist-upgrade
today
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1979[14:54:19] <lesik__> hey, I installed pk-update-icon for it
to alert me about updates. pk-update-icon is running, but I
don't get any notification, even though updates are available.
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1986[14:56:31] <zykotick9> xboot: YMMV, but i personally
uninstall revolvconf if my resolv.conf is getting changed against my
will...
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1987[14:57:42] <towo^work> forcerecon, fglrx is dead
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1989[14:57:58] <towo^work> forcerecon, remove that useless piece
of software
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1993[14:58:32] <towo^work> forcerecon, and why you use such
ancient version of vbox?
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1994[14:58:50] <forcerecon> hey I didnt install them
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1995[14:58:56] <forcerecon> and I don't use vbox
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1996[14:59:03] <forcerecon> maybe at one point I tried it..
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1998[14:59:07] <forcerecon> not even sure any more
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1999[14:59:21] <towo^work> it will not install itself
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2004[15:00:13] <forcerecon> well fglrx must have because it is
not something I installed
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2005[15:00:18] <forcerecon> not manually
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2008[15:00:49] <towo^work> forcerecon, no!
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2009[15:01:03] <towo^work> forcerecon, fglrx is never installed
by default
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2011[15:01:28] <forcerecon> well offer up some suggestions as to
how it was installed through what package
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2012[15:01:30] <forcerecon> I did not install it
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2013[15:01:31] <jelly> same goes for vbox
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2014[15:01:42] <forcerecon> vbox I probably installed
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2015[15:01:47] <forcerecon> was trying it over vmware at one
point
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2025[15:09:37] <lesik__> aptitude why fglrx
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2026[15:09:50] <lesik__> ^to find out whether fglrx was pulled in
as dependency, rather than installed manually
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2028[15:09:55] <lesik__> (highly unlikely though)
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2029[15:10:38] <forcerecon> I am going to check I am currently
doing a vmware installation on that laptop as well as it being
remote, so I cannot access the terminal at the moment ..
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2030[15:10:46] <forcerecon> I will check when I am done..
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2031[15:10:48] <forcerecon> thanks
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2042[15:15:34] <sioux_> hi. i'm trying to install debian 9
(amd64) netinstall (usb boot with unetbootin or YUMI) on hp proliant
ml350. When i try set up address ip manual, show that one error
occurr and can´t set up. If i try same config on my laptop,
runs right.
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2049[15:19:47] <Lyberta> how to fix this warning
replaced-url
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2050[15:20:25] <sypher> Lyberta: Did you search for said warning
on the internet?
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2051[15:20:40] <Lyberta> sypher, not yet
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2052[15:20:46] <zykotick9> sioux_: notes #1 - unetbootin &
yumi are BAD ideas to use with debian ISOs and #2 the ethernet in
that proliant ml350 appears to require non-free firmware (or
drivers) but i found one link online that said the
unofficial/non-free netins has the requirements to have it work.
best of luck.
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2053[15:20:49] <louiz> you should probably do that first
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2054[15:21:09] <sypher> Lyberta: Go do that.
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2056[15:21:37] <towo^work> Lyberta, you have set a non existent
UUID for Resume in the config
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2057[15:21:53] <towo^work> so the fix is, put the right UUID in
there
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2058[15:21:58] <Lyberta> towo^work, where is that file? I
didn't do that myself
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2059[15:22:18] <sypher> towo^work: The answer to his issue is
easily found on the internet, and it's not what you're
describing.
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2060[15:22:33] <sypher> Lyberta: I suggest searching for your
issue, as I said previously.
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2062[15:23:13] <sioux_> zykotick9: #1 i will try Win32diskimager.
#2 when detecting hardware don´t show any message to insert
non-free firmware. How can i install this?
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2063[15:23:29] <zykotick9> !firmware image
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2064[15:23:29] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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2068[15:25:14] <sioux_> zykotick9: so, i will try with this image
?
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2069[15:25:21] <zykotick9> sioux_: i have NO experience with your
hardware, i just saw
replaced-url
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2075[15:29:06] <sioux_> zykotick9: thanks man! i will try this
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2077[15:29:26] <sioux_> zykotick9: gratefulness man! :)
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2094[15:36:18] <PurpleMinion> Are there any themes available for
Debian stretch xfce?
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2095[15:36:32] <lesik__> PurpleMinion: greybird and blackbird
from xubuntu
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2096[15:36:49] <greycat> "apt-cache search xfce theme"
gives me some results
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2099[15:38:02] <PurpleMinion> Can't use that atm, don't
have my Linux laptop with me
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2100[15:38:12] <greycat> ...
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2102[15:38:47] <greycat> "Does anyone have any
tampons?" "Oh, no, I don't actually want one.
I'm male."
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2105[15:39:43] <PurpleMinion> I should actually be doing school
stuff but I don't feel like, so I'm looking up themes so I
don't have to that when I get home :P
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2123[15:45:28] <AndreeeCZ> hello! I am booting jessie over NFS.
The boot sequence reaches "[ OK ] Started Update UTMP about
System Boot/Shutdown." And then hangs on "A start job is
running for LSB: Raise network interf...18s / no limit)" and
then on "nfs: server 192.168.15.1 not responding, still
trying"
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2125[15:45:55] <AndreeeCZ> always at this exact spot. NFS works
obvisously, since we got this far down the systemd boot process.
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2127[15:46:35] <AndreeeCZ> Can i prevent systemd from waiting for
that LSB job?
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2129[15:47:11] <cheapie> What makes you think NFS works?
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2132[15:47:31] <AndreeeCZ> cheapie, because it read all the
systemd scripts and got me this far
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2133[15:47:55] <greycat> But this is the job that *brings up the
network*. Look past the stupid fucking "LSB" to the actual
words.
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2134[15:48:02] <cheapie> From the initrd, yes, but the root FS
(NFS) isn't mounted yet.
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2135[15:48:05] <greycat> If this job fails, you have no network,
and therefore no NFS.
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2136[15:48:19] <AndreeeCZ> after the kernel booted (from tftp), i
got a message "Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)!",
which it had to get over NFS
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2137[15:48:28] <AndreeeCZ> i see
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2141[15:49:41] <AndreeeCZ> ok i get it, thank you
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2155[15:57:36] <demo_> Jack^D
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2166[16:02:53] <AndreeeCZ> cheapie, how can i debug this, since
the system isn't booted yet, i can't access it via ssh etc
?
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2186[16:14:20] <forcerecon> I have noticed that lots of files
that get installed have the letters girl in them.. What does this
stand for or is it just a dev thing
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2189[16:16:19] <mtn> those devs are just wild and wacky guys
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2203[16:20:27] <greycat> forcerecon: are you saying you ran
"locate girl"?
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2207[16:21:34] <sypher> greycat: And Debian's popularity
suddenly skyrockets...
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2225[16:29:43] <forcerecon> vbox has what is called
guestadditions.. does vmware have this as well or is vmware tools
the equal
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2232[16:32:07] <jelly> forcerecon: open-vm-tools or vmware-tools
are the equivalent
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2233[16:32:33] <forcerecon> thats what I figured but thanks for
the confirmation
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2234[16:32:38] <forcerecon> appreciated
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2235[16:32:56] <jelly> note that open-vm-tools is split into
multiple packages
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2236[16:33:12] <jelly> not everyone needs desktop integration
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2237[16:33:34] <jelly> apt-cache search open-vm-tools
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2267[16:51:00] <unkmar> Yay me. I don't know what I did when
that gives me this annoying message. "Current Kerberos
password:" But I want it gone. Help me?
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2269[16:51:59] <unkmar> And I know that I am on a version of
Debian that means this will likely be the last time I get help until
I reinstall..... AGAIN!
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2271[16:52:39] <greycat> What version of Debian is it, and what
do you type that produces that prompt?
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2272[16:53:10] <unkmar> It was the latest version, until about a
week ago.
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2274[16:53:18] <greycat> cat /etc/debian_version
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2275[16:53:23] <unkmar> 8.6
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2276[16:53:28] <unkmar> I was doing that. :)
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2277[16:53:34] <greycat> OK, you're a few point releases
behind on 8.x but that's fine
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2280[16:55:15] <greycat> Plenty of people are still on Debian 7
and 8.
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2281[16:55:22] <unkmar> I think my problem arose from rdesktop
issues months ago. I installed rdesktop and eventually just resorted
to telling the windows system to accept weaker password setup or
whatever it was called.
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2285[16:56:40] <unkmar> greycat: I'm still on 7 with one
system. And that is starting to cause me problems. :( Sad too, old
laptopt that might not handle an upgrade well. Each *update*
requires stronger hardware. Not just becaues of the OS, but because
of other things on top of it. Java and such.
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2287[16:57:14] <greycat> It's true. Sometimes a given
machine just can't be updated.
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2288[16:57:17] <unkmar> Any how. suggestions to solve my current
issue?
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2289[16:57:33] <greycat> I don't know krb/windows stuff very
well, but what command are you running that gives that prompt?
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2293[16:58:32] <unkmar> sudo adduser new_user and sudo passwd
new_user In other words. every attempt to set or change a password
even as root.
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2294[16:58:58] <greycat> Sounds like a PAM thing, maybe.
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2295[16:59:35] <greycat> Is libpam-krb5 installed? If so, maybe
you want to remove it... but please understand that this is not a
thing I use myself.
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2297[16:59:49] <unkmar> I'm needing to send myself a file
from a windows machine and so I was going to setup a separate user.
I don't trust Windows even when it is in my sight.
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2300[17:00:32] <unkmar> yes, it is installed.
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2301[17:00:52] <aguitel> how to test health from this hard disk ?
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2302[17:00:57] <greycat> If removing it will also require
removing other things that you don't want to remove, then wait
for someone who actually knows Kerberos stuff.
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2306[17:01:55] <unkmar> removing *that* package didn't want
me to remove anything. So, looks like my life my be better already.
Thank you.
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2308[17:02:39] <unkmar> I had looked at removing serveral
different krb based packages that wanted to remove lots of things
that mean machine would have been unusable. Thank you.
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2309[17:03:11] <jelly> unkmar: verify you're still able to
log in to that machine, remotely and at the console if possible
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2311[17:03:42] <jelly> removing pam modules that were actually in
use somewhere in /etc/pam.d/ may have adverse effects
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2312[17:03:46] <unkmar> cat /etc/debian_version now reports 8.8
:) Just completing a safe-upgrade now.
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2315[17:04:51] <MarioMey> Hello...
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2316[17:04:55] <unkmar> jelly: I just sudo login and was able to
login as myself without incident.
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2317[17:05:11] <MarioMey> Yesterday, I installed Debian 9. Now, I
want to print a paper...
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2318[17:05:39] <MarioMey> I downloaded driver from
replaced-url
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2320[17:06:10] <MarioMey> I plug printer and nothing appears.
There's no printer options in Control Center...
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2322[17:06:17] <MarioMey> How should I install it?
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2325[17:07:30] <jelly> MarioMey: ensure cups package is
installed. The open your web browser, connect to
replaced-url
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2330[17:08:53] <jelly> probably good if printer is powered on and
connected while you're doing this
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2336[17:10:24] <lowin> Hello. I have compiled a program from
source. How do I tell dpkg that I have it installed so I can install
other programs that depend on it from the package manager?
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2338[17:10:54] <greycat> Depends on what it is. You can install
equivs and use that to build pseudo-packages that Provides: various
things.
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2339[17:11:01] <xboot> i have debian stretch, using Wicd to
connect to WiFi network.
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2341[17:11:15] <xboot> i haven't avahi daemon or resolvconf
installed, but resolv.conf is being automaticaly changed
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2342[17:11:17] <xboot> constantly
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2343[17:11:26] <greycat> dhcp client does that
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2344[17:11:29] <xboot> ohh
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2345[17:11:30] <unkmar> Just great. I may not have a sytem in
about 5 minutes.
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2346[17:11:58] <xboot> is there any way to prevent it to do so
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2347[17:12:11] <greycat> Several ways of varying strength and
ugliness.
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2349[17:12:19] <xboot> ok
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2350[17:12:21] <unkmar> The NVIDIA driver that is being installed
... does not match the nvidia kernel module currently loaded. The X
server, OpenGL, and GPGPU applications may not work properly
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2351[17:12:23] <xboot> i will try to use a hook
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2352[17:12:44] <greycat> !override dns
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2353[17:12:44] <dpkg> To instruct dhclient to use your specified
nameserver rather than the one given by your DHCP server, echo
"supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >>
/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more
information. Instead of supersede, you can use "prepend"
or "append" to add nameservers. Or remove
domain-name-servers (etc.) from "request" in dhclient.conf
if you prefer.
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2356[17:13:22] <xboot> thanks
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2357[17:13:24] <xboot> !help
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2359[17:13:32] <xboot> !override
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2360[17:13:38] <greycat> Because dhclient is brought to you by
ISC, the same people who wrote BIND (*shudder*), there is no simple
way to do ANYTHING common.
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2361[17:13:55] <xboot> damn, i understand
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2362[17:14:07] <greycat> Like telling it "fuck off, never
touch my resolv.conf file, ever". Can't do that. If you
need that, most people end up resorting to chattr +i.
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2364[17:14:59] <nicechap> when I do apt-get update and apt-get
upgrade, I get this:
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2366[17:15:02] <nicechap> The following packages have been kept
back:
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2367[17:15:05] <xboot> i wrote "make_resolv_conf(){}"
to /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/nodnsupdate
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2368[17:15:05] <nicechap> firefox-esr firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb
linux-headers-amd64 linux-image-amd64 xorg xserver-xorg
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2369[17:15:08] <xboot> which is working now
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2371[17:15:14] <nicechap> why are they 'kept back'?
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2372[17:15:17] <abrotman> There is a resolvconf package
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2373[17:15:30] <abrotman> nicechap: try a dist-upgrade or
full-upgrade
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2374[17:15:38] <greycat> abrotman: we want the OPPOSITE of
resolvconf. We just want the file to be left alone.
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2375[17:15:48] <nicechap> abrotman: why does it not pick it up
otherwise?
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2376[17:15:56] <abrotman> wel, yes, but resolvconf has a way to
force the ones you want
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2377[17:16:04] <abrotman> nicechap: because "upgrade"
won't install or remove packages
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2378[17:16:21] <greycat> I have a way to force the ones I want,
too. vi /etc/resolv.conf; chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
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2379[17:16:27] <abrotman> yes, that works also :)
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2382[17:16:42] <nicechap> abrotman: so I should always do both?
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2384[17:16:59] <nicechap> upgrade and also dist-upgrade?
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2385[17:17:23] <greycat> dist-upgrading within a release
isn't commonly needed
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2386[17:17:27] <unkmar> You should always make a backup for even
considering a dist-upgrade.
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2388[17:17:44] <offsecOS-28490> hello
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2389[17:17:45] <jelly> greycat: but it doesn't hurt
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2390[17:17:48] <nicechap> greycat: I am confused...
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2392[17:17:54] <abrotman> nicechap: always? that's up to you
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2393[17:18:06] <nicechap> the fact that upgrade tells me
explicitly something is kept back
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2394[17:18:10] <abrotman> nicechap: you jsut need to be aware of
the differences and when to use each
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2395[17:18:10] <unkmar> I have NEVER had a successful
dist-upgrade. But I hear I am in the minority.
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2396[17:18:18] <greycat> Sometimes a new version of, say,
firefox-esr depends on a new library. Because firefox-esr isn't
really stable. It's only partly stable. So you need
dist-upgrade to let it bring in the new library.
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2397[17:18:25] <abrotman> unkmar: I've had systems go
through five releases successfully.
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2398[17:18:29] <jelly> unkmar: dist-upgrade is just an apt-get
command used for patching up.
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2399[17:18:40] <jelly> doing a release upgrade is a different
thing
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2400[17:19:07] <nicechap> I ran the dist-upgrade, no smoke coming
out yet
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2401[17:19:17] <nicechap> bit scary
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2402[17:19:29] <xboot> greycat, i don't use chattr option
just because i want to know whoever tries to modify my resolv.conf.
I actually forced dhcp to stop doing so, so now if something will
modify my resolv.conf it will be malware
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2403[17:19:44] <xboot> and i'll be aware of this
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2404[17:19:44] <greycat> xboot: uh... ok?
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2405[17:19:51] <jelly> nicechap: not really, it's just the
command has a weird name that makes people thing it might do
something else
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2406[17:19:52] <xboot> ok.
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2407[17:19:58] <xboot> just saying
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2408[17:20:14] <greycat> I don't know how you "forced
dhcp to stop". I could not find any option for that.
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2409[17:20:23] <xboot> <xboot> i wrote
"make_resolv_conf(){}" to
/etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/nodnsupdate
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2410[17:20:32] <xboot> overrided a function that updates
resolv.conf
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2411[17:20:35] <xboot> by using a hook
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2414[17:20:52] <greycat> Oh. I didn't realize you could
override its... internal? not-internal? operations.
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2416[17:21:14] <greycat> Dear ISC. STOP MAKING YOUR SOFTWARE SO
STUPID. Thank you.
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2417[17:21:16] <xboot> i don't know, but i think these are
external functions
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2418[17:21:25] <xboot> if they can be overrided
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2422[17:21:50] <xboot> foud thsi solution here
replaced-url
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2424[17:21:58] <xboot> "Create hook to avoid
/etc/resolv.conf file update"
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2433[17:22:52] <xboot> but yeah i agree, a simple flag/option to
prevent doing so would be very useful instead of that fu
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2434[17:24:19] <unkmar> I hate upgrades. System thinks I'm
visually impaired again or something. Everything on Chrome is
massive.
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2435[17:24:29] <greycat> xboot: that is a good web page. I think
I'll update the bot with that.
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2438[17:25:52] <greycat> dpkg, no, override dns is
<reply>dhclient overwrites your resolv.conf every time it
refreshes, by default. To stop that behavior, choose one of the
various hacks on <replaced-url
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2439[17:25:52] <dpkg> greycat: okay
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2443[17:28:15] <greycat> P.S. you don't actually have to
make the dhcp enter/exit hooks executable. 644 perms work fine.
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2473[17:38:34] <unkmar> Yay! I hacked
--force-device-scale-factor=1 into both my
/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable and /usr/bin/chromium because I'm
not blind.
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2488[17:42:52] <lovelybac0n> Yeah. I once hacked the cia.7
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2505[17:46:50] <celyr> I once hacked my wc
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2512[17:49:25] <unkmar> I asked a friend. He says that wc means
water closet. So, what I might call a restroom.
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2513[17:49:44] <greycat> Yes, that's British slang.
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2519[17:52:06] <celyr> restroom
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2521[17:52:09] <celyr> the place where you take a nap
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2522[17:52:11] <celyr> right ?
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2527[17:53:59] <jelly> er, #debian-offtopic
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2529[17:54:22] <unkmar> celyr: yeah, well. Americans didn't
quite figure out a proper name for that room. Before I knew of it as
a restroom, I knew of it as a batrhoom. So... I don't know that
water closet is much better.
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2551[18:03:22] <bear1> Ok im needing help making sopel bpt
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2552[18:03:24] <bear1> *bot
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2557[18:04:56] <jelly> there's a #sopel channel, IHaveNoName
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2558[18:05:31] <IHaveNoName> Ok
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2561[18:06:32] <jelly> IHaveNoName: to hunt for channels about
somestuff on freenode (this irc network), use /msg alis list stuff
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2562[18:06:38] <IHaveNoName> Ok
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2563[18:06:39] <jelly> er.
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2565[18:07:05] <jelly> /msg alis list somestuff
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2568[18:07:29] <IHaveNoName> Okay thanks for the help :)
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2583[18:13:15] <MarioMey> jelly: Thanks! It worked.
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2585[18:13:42] <MarioMey> Before doing that, I had installed the
file from openprinting page... was it necessary?
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2587[18:13:48] <MarioMey> jelly: ^
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2590[18:14:39] <IHaveNoName> :( i think everyone not available on
#sopel
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2600[18:19:16] <jelly> MarioMey: probably, that's what gives
you the driver driver to pick
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2601[18:19:24] <jelly> the right* driver
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2625[18:27:17] <nvz> why would my system allow me to format a
luks file ext3 and work but when i format it ext4 i can only mount
it ro because mouting rw says the fs has unsupported optional
features?
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2632[18:28:33] <nvz> i can live with it being ext3 but this has
me confused
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2639[18:30:04] <petn-randall> nvz: Can you show the complete
output you get?
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2641[18:31:03] <aguitel> how to test health from this hard disk ?
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2642[18:31:16] <nvz> i get the typical wrong fstype erro, its in
dmesg i see EXT4-fs (dm-0): couldn't mount RDWR because of
unsupported optional features (400)
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2643[18:31:20] <jelly> nvz: the version of mke2fs you used to
format it is newer than the kernel and version of mount used to...
mount it
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2644[18:31:54] <jelly> nvz: which OS or installer image did you
use to create the filesystem?
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2645[18:32:23] <nvz> jelly: ah that makes sense i suppose i was
at a loss for what kernel option would prevent this but if the mkfs
is newer than the kernel which it is.. that explains it
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2646[18:32:34] <petn-randall> aguitel: You can use
'smartctl' from the smartmontools package.
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2648[18:32:52] <nvz> jelly: im on stretch with a old armbian
kernel so thats what caused it
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2649[18:33:23] <aguitel> petn-randall, ok
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2654[18:34:25] <jelly> nvz: compare /etc/mke2fs.conf from jessie
and stretch, then make sure to disable the newer features that are
only in stretch
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2659[18:35:29] <jelly> nvz: mkfs.ext4 ... -O ^metadata_csum ...
is one I remember
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2672[18:40:47] <n-iCe> Would you guys say lxde is the most
lightweight de? For debian?
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2675[18:41:27] <jelly> who knows, maybe lxqt is lighterer
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2676[18:41:42] <jelly> maybe not using a DE but just a WM is?
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2678[18:42:42] <centrx> n-iCe: openbox with fbpanel
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2683[18:43:19] <nvz> jelly: fwiw seems to be that and 64bit inode
size are diffs between stretch and ambians installer
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2684[18:43:30] <petn-randall> n-iCe: Unless you've got a
potato for hardware I'd go with one of the more popular DEs,
simply because the support (finding resolutions to problems on the
internet) is better.
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2685[18:44:00] <n-iCe> Thats why i asked in the installation does
not say openbox
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2686[18:44:07] <n-iCe> Gnome kde xfce lsxde cinammon
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2687[18:44:28] <n-iCe> I want the more lightweight option in the
default netinstall installation
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2688[18:44:33] <n-iCe> Would you say lxde?
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2689[18:45:01] <n-iCe> Im installing debian in this moment
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2692[18:45:59] <greycat> If you don't want a desktop
environment at all, just skip all of those options, and install xorg
openbox xterm ... yourself.
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2693[18:46:13] <unkmar> lxde is very lightweight.
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2695[18:46:21] <unkmar> so is xfce
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2696[18:46:34] <unkmar> The others? Not so much.
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2697[18:46:36] <petn-randall> n-iCe: xfce is also on the lighter
end. Really depends on the hardware, though.
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2699[18:46:51] <n-iCe> Thing es i have a good hardware but i feel
linux slow somehow
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2700[18:46:59] <n-iCe> Does not feel smooth
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2701[18:47:16] <n-iCe> Tried other distros like ubuntu lubuntu
fedora
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2704[18:47:26] <mtn> n-iCe, what video chip or card do you have?
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2705[18:47:29] <n-iCe> Does not feel with a good performance like
ib my old laptoo
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2707[18:47:41] <n-iCe> Amd a6 8gb ram 1tb hdd
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2708[18:47:55] * IHaveNoName sad no one is on sopel thats avaikable
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2709[18:48:23] <n-iCe> Mtn that works for you?
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2710[18:48:30] <n-iCe> Amd A6
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2711[18:48:32] <mtn> n-iCe, what video chip or card do you have?
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2712[18:48:52] <n-iCe> Cant tell right now, im installing debian
:x
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2713[18:48:58] <n-iCe> Let me change ppy
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2716[18:49:10] <n-iCe> Tty
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2717[18:49:24] <socomm> I've an older debian install. And
I've an IPv6 address stuck in 'dadfaied' state. Is
there a way to force debian to run neighbor discovery?
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2718[18:49:35] <mtn> n-iCe, well, anyway, it may be a video
driver problem.
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2719[18:49:49] <n-iCe>
replaced-url
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2721[18:49:50] <socomm> I've seen posts about changing
'accept_dad' to 0, but that doesn't clear the state.
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2722[18:50:00] <n-iCe> Can you see the image? I took a picture
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2726[18:50:32] <n-iCe> Mtn what do you see
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2727[18:50:46] <altker128> Hey all. There's a Debian mirror
that's missing a .deb, while results in a failure during a new
install or after the fact install. Who do I tell?
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2729[18:50:54] <altker128> This is on Stretch
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2730[18:51:04] <petn-randall> !bat
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2731[18:51:04] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2733[18:51:07] <IHaveNoName> Does anyone here know how to make a
sopel bot on debian no one is talkin on sopel channel
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2734[18:51:08] <petn-randall> altker128: ^^^
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2735[18:51:31] <altker128> petn-randall: OK . Thanks
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2736[18:51:34] <nvz> altker128: is it an offcial debian repo?
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2737[18:51:37] <mtn> n-iCe, radeon hd 7520G is your video chip.
you can research drivers for it on the debian wiki
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2738[18:51:54] <n-iCe> Mtn so debian does not install them by
default?
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2739[18:52:06] <altker128> nvz: Yes. It's ftp.utexas.edu .
It fails when trying to install mate-desktop-environment . It's
reproducable
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2741[18:52:22] <mtn> n-iCe, yes, it will have a open source
driver by default. there may be a different driver available, too
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2742[18:52:35] <altker128> nvz: When I switched to
mirrors.kernel.org/debian , everything proceeded normally
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2743[18:53:33] <nvz> altker128: which protocol http? what is the
exact source line, package/version and error is it a 404 not found,
403 forbidden?
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2744[18:54:14] <altker128> nvz: http protocol , it's a 404
and I'll try to pruge the packages and re-try them. This is NOT
user error. It fails straight up from the Debian installer
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2746[18:54:39] <MarioMey> jelly: When I have to select the model,
there are two options for the same printer. One says "Epson
Stylus TX125 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.11 (en)", the other
"Epson Stylus TX125 Series - epson-inkjet-printer 1.0.1-1lsb3.2
(Seiko Epson Corporation... blah, blah2.
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2747[18:54:42] <n-iCe> Mtn this?
replaced-url
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2748[18:55:08] <MarioMey> So, if I select the first one, I can
remove the driver that I had installed, right?
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2749[18:55:40] <nvz> altker128: i am giving you the benefit of
the doubt but im also gonna try it and see.. youd need these
specifics to really report it
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2750[18:55:41] <mtn> n-iCe, yes and this one too:
replaced-url
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2752[18:56:21] <n-iCe> Which one would you use
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2754[18:56:44] <altker128> nvz: Yes. The issue is from the
installer it just "fails" and doesn't say why. It
wasn't until I rebooted, got a terminal prompt and tried it
manually (apt-get install mate-desktop-enviornment) that I saw it
choked on one file.
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2756[18:57:12] <jelly> MarioMey: sure, but debian gets those from
openprinting as well so the one you just downloaded might be
SLIGHTLY newer
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2757[18:57:17] <mtn> n-iCe, you should read both of them
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2759[18:57:43] <nvz> altker128: yes well the exact deb line and
package name and version in question are still important
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2760[18:57:47] <jelly> MarioMey: and the one from distro will get
automatically upgraded when you upgrade to Debian 10, while the one
you downloaded manually... won't
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2763[18:58:24] <IHaveNoName> jelly no one is talking on #sopel :(
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2764[18:58:34] <nvz> altker128: because without that anyone is
going to assume pebcak
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2765[18:58:37] <jelly> IHaveNoName: be patient
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2769[18:59:22] <altker128> nvz: What is a pebcak?
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2771[18:59:47] <nvz> altker128: problem exists between keyboard
and chair
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2772[18:59:57] <IHaveNoName> ok jelly
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2773[19:00:03] <mtn> a very common computer virus :p
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2775[19:00:11] <n-iCe> Mtn done how can i know if driver is
working correctly
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2779[19:00:19] <Ssandy> hello
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2780[19:00:22] <IHaveNoName> Hi
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2781[19:00:27] <nvz> altker128: pebkac or pebcak same thing diff
spelling
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2782[19:00:30] <mtn> n-iCe, by testing it. does it work ok or
not?
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2783[19:00:37] <altker128> nvz: Ah, the nut behind the wheel :)
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2784[19:00:38] <Ssandy> spanih
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2788[19:01:12] <n-iCe> Did not say it was not working mtn
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2790[19:01:21] <n-iCe> I just feel linux slow or not smooth
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2791[19:01:36] <unkmar> Sometimes the ID ten T error strikes.
(Id10t)
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2792[19:01:45] <mtn> n-iCe, I did not say you said it was not
working ;) just trying to give you some info so you can answer your
own questions
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2793[19:02:14] <n-iCe> But is there a command to check the driver
installed performance or if it working well?
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2794[19:02:17] <n-iCe> I feel the same
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2795[19:02:20] <n-iCe> Wirh both drivers
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2807[19:04:14] <nvz> altker128: official mirror missing one file
is unlikely due to the way they work but that doesnt mean its
pebkac, if the installer caused this it could be a bug in the
installer. most common cause is that the apt cache is stale which
the installer shouldnt have allowed
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2808[19:04:35] <SpeedyG> hey, I'm looking for an install iso
for debian lenny or etch but archive.debian.org does not seem to
work... is there any other place where I can find them?
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2810[19:04:51] <SpeedyG> (for education purposes)
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2812[19:05:06] <nvz> altker128: thats why i need more info to
know if i should tell you to talk to the installer team, or a repo
maintainer
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2813[19:05:19] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2814[19:05:55] <SpeedyG> greycat: hm, you're right.. I was
at .net, not .org
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2815[19:06:00] <SpeedyG> i'll dig there :)
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2820[19:06:54] <MarioMey1> Thanks, jelly.
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2822[19:07:44] <nvz> altker128: also thats a secondary mirror so
what action would need to occur depends on the nature of the issue
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2866[19:29:39] <n-iCe> Mtn
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2869[19:29:56] <n-iCe> mtn: here
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2870[19:30:03] <n-iCe> Jun 28 12:21:16 debian kernel: [
18.689532] [drm:radeon_pci_probe [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon kernel
modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-amd-graphics.
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2871[19:30:06] <n-iCe> Jun 28 12:21:16 debian kernel: [
18.727139] kvm: disabled by bios
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2872[19:30:09] <n-iCe> Jun 28 12:21:16 debian kernel: [
18.753113] kvm: disabled by bios
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2874[19:31:17] <nvz> n-iCe: in the future use paste.debian.net or
truncate your msgs to one line.. without the timestamp and repeated
message
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2876[19:31:37] <n-iCe> what's that kvm disabled by bios
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2878[19:32:00] <aguitel> i install stretch-cinnamon ,how remove
pidgin and thunderbird without whole desktop environment ?
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2879[19:32:05] <greycat> out of those three lines, *that's*
what you ask about?
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2882[19:33:18] <n-iCe> found it anyway
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2888[19:34:40] <spacebug^> aguitel: apt-mark manual thunderbird
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2889[19:34:58] <spacebug^> aguitel: then apt-get remove
thunderbird
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2890[19:35:11] <aguitel> same with pidgin ?
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2891[19:35:30] <spacebug^> if pidgin also whants to remove
cinnamon
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2894[19:36:31] <aguitel> lot of shit try to install when
thunderbird is removing
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2895[19:36:40] <spacebug^> this did the trick for me with
iceweasel and icedove (now that thunderbird and firefox are the
original names again)
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2898[19:37:16] <spacebug^> some things might acutally need
thunderbird and hence be removed.. don't know really
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2900[19:37:27] <aguitel> ok
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2907[19:40:14] <spacebug^> aguitel: sounds strange that a DE as
cinnaom should depend on a email client. But than again. you might
have installed a metapackge for cinnamon and that depends on that
package. Thats was the case with me and icedove/iceweasel
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2911[19:41:18] <aguitel> spacebug^, icedove is uninstalled with
no problem
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2912[19:41:27] <spacebug^> ok
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2914[19:41:40] <mrr0butt> are open-vm-tools for installation on
host system or guest?
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replacement for vbox-guest-additions and not vbox itself
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2937[19:50:14] <n-iCe> Hello! how do I enable click in touch pad
in Debian 9
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2943[19:51:49] * pingou looking for formorer, could anyone help me?
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2951[19:55:13] <jhutchins_wk> mrr0butt: Guest
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2954[19:57:05] <greycat> dpkg, no, synaptics is <reply>As
of stretch, the synaptic driver isn't used by GNOME. If your
touchpad stopped working in stretch, try installing
xserver-xorg-input-libinput and removing
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics; see
replaced-url
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2955[19:57:05] <dpkg> greycat: okay
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2963[19:59:55] <n-iCe> greycat: it works, just want to enable
click on touch
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2973[20:00:41] <nvz> pingou: /msg nickserv info formorer
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2975[20:00:59] <pingou> nvz: good idea, thanks
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2979[20:02:11] <greycat> dpkg, no, synaptics is <reply>As
of stretch, the synaptics driver isn't used by GNOME. If your
touchpad stopped working in stretch, try installing
xserver-xorg-input-libinput and removing
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics; see
replaced-url
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2980[20:02:11] <dpkg> okay, greycat
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2983[20:02:57] <n-iCe> greycat: what?
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2984[20:03:07] <greycat> Dunno. It's on that wiki page
though.
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2985[20:03:12] <greycat> I don't use laptops. I don't
use gnome.
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2987[20:03:26] <n-iCe> but, is for 8
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2988[20:03:30] <n-iCe> Can't make it work in 0
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2989[20:03:31] <n-iCe> 9
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2990[20:03:44] <greycat> Then read the wiki page.
replaced-url
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2993[20:04:00] <greycat> Or if you want it to work on stretch,
read what I put DIRECTLY INTO THE FACTOID.
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2994[20:04:11] <nvz> pingou: /msg nickserv info <nick> will
tell you when they were last on, /whois <nick> will tell you
what channels a user is on, and /msg dpkg seen <nick> will
tell you if the bot has seen them in any of the debian channels it
is in
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2997[20:04:41] <jimjamjim> after upgrading to debian 9, I
can't span my wallpaper across my monitors!
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2998[20:04:54] <nvz> pingou: if a user wants their email used or
uses memoserv nickserv will have that info also
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2999[20:05:28] <pingou> nvz: I think /whois only lists channels
you have in common
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3000[20:05:41] <n-iCe> greycat:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf does not exist
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3001[20:06:02] <greycat> Then I guess you are supposed to create
it.
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3002[20:06:12] <n-iCe> nop
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3003[20:06:17] <n-iCe> readh the Debian 9 part
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3004[20:06:19] <n-iCe> is what I don't get
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3005[20:06:24] <n-iCe> in the link you gave me
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3006[20:06:30] <nvz> jimjamjim: you need to be more specific if
you want to ask how to do that. there are like 6 DEs and tons of
smaller x apps which provide similar functionality nobody knows what
youre using
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3007[20:06:33] <greycat> WHAT. THE. FUCK. VERSION. DO. YOU. HAVE.
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3008[20:06:55] <nvz> pingou: whois me and see what it shows
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3009[20:07:00] <n-iCe> greycat: what?
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3010[20:07:03] <n-iCe> I told you
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3011[20:07:07] <greycat> What version of DEBIAN do you have?
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3012[20:07:14] <jimjamjim> nvz: oh.. I am using xfce
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3013[20:07:21] <greycat> You keep changing the number every 20
seconds.
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3014[20:07:26] <n-iCe> No, always said 9
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3015[20:07:30] <pingou> nvz: [nvz] #debian
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3017[20:07:34] <greycat> 14:03 n-iCe> but, is for 8
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3018[20:07:35] <greycat> 14:03 n-iCe> Can't make it work
in 0
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3019[20:07:36] <greycat> 14:03 n-iCe> 9
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3020[20:07:40] <n-iCe> so, the last one, was 9
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3023[20:08:00] <nvz> pingou: looks like youre right then due to
the user mode it only shows channels in common
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3025[20:08:40] <Fahrradkette> greetings. I just did an apt-get
upgrade which pulled a new kernel. in the setup phase it failed to
build some non-free kernel-y stuff. I removed the two offending
packets. Do I have to re-run that kernel-related build script?
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3027[20:08:53] <nvz> jimjamjim: and you had xfce with jessie and
your wallpaper was strteched onto multiple screens and now after
upgrading its not?
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3031[20:09:24] <jimjamjim> nvz: yes!
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3036[20:10:16] <nvz> jimjamjim: do you know what utility you are
using to set the wallpaper?
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3037[20:10:22] <Masterphi> I'm seeing all packages failing
to authenticate trying to apt upgrade. What's going on?
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3046[20:11:48] <nvz> jimjamjim: nobody else is gonna pry info out
of you much less for such a trivial issue btw, im just humoring you
because i have stretch and xfce on here to look into it and im
waiting on something to finish here
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3049[20:12:25] <jimjamjim> nvz: I can't find the option to
span the wallpaper in 'Desktop Settings'
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3057[20:15:12] <wonderer> hi all
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3058[20:15:38] <wonderer> need some help with deb 6 and grub not
pickin up os on bootup
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3059[20:16:02] <wonderer> tried alot of guides and some utilities
but not had any job in getting deb booting
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3068[20:19:37] <jhutchins_wk> wonderer: Last I remember you were
going to try a clean install (or better a live iso) to se if the
hardware was compatible with 6.
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3072[20:20:06] <jhutchins_wk> wonderer: Telling us
"it's not working" doesn't give us anything to
work with.
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3073[20:20:15] <nvz> jimjamjim: give me the brief rundown on your
video card config.. i.e. one nvidia card 2 monitors, debian nvidia
drivers ?
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3079[20:21:30] <jhutchins_wk> wonderer: We know for certain that
grub boots Debian 6 just fine, many of us used it for years.
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3084[20:22:16] <wonderer> hey jhutchins_wk
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3085[20:22:19] <jimjamjim> nvz: I am using Intel HD 4400.. i
think!
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3086[20:22:36] <wonderer> i used clonezilla as you advised
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3087[20:22:41] <jimjamjim> nvz: 00:02.0 VGA compatible
controller: Intel Corporation 4th Generation Core Processor Family
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
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3088[20:22:54] <jelly> wonderer: what kind of hardware is this
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3089[20:22:57] <wonderer> took a little while to getting used to
it
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3090[20:23:07] <wonderer> dell pe r330
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3091[20:23:19] <nvz> jmcnaught: hmm is that a laptop then with an
external and builtin
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3095[20:23:42] <jhutchins_wk> wonderer: Clonezilla has great
documentation - if you read Mandarin.
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3098[20:24:07] <jelly> wonderer: that sounds relatively fresh,
why debian 6?
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3100[20:24:23] <jelly> wonderer: does it have legacy bios or uefi
or both?
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3101[20:24:31] <noqnio1> Hey, which vnc server do you suggest
that works best out of the package?
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3102[20:24:33] <jelly> wonderer: is firmware up-to-date?
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3103[20:24:40] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: iirc he's working to
upgrade an old server, trying to replicate it first.
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3106[20:24:50] <nvz> jimjamjim: lets try this.. goto you apps
menu, settings, settings editor
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3107[20:25:14] <jimjamjim> nvz: ok..
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3108[20:25:39] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: so the machine will have to
support legacy booting well, and if it's really new, it might
not
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3109[20:26:31] <nvz> jimjamjim: click on xfce4-desktop in the
left pane and hit the new button and add
/backdrop/screen0/xinerama-stretch as a boolean and set it to true
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3115[20:27:02] <wonderer> jelly legacy
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3120[20:27:30] <wonderer> ive booted in deb 9 live cd atm
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3122[20:27:36] <jimjamjim> nvz: done!
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3125[20:27:44] <wonderer> and trying to see if i can repair the
grub
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3127[20:27:52] <jelly> wonderer: how does grub fail?
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3129[20:27:58] <nvz> jimjamjim: does that fix your wallpaper?
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3132[20:28:24] <wonderer> one sec, let me get screengrab
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3133[20:28:48] <jimjamjim> nvz: it didn't!
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3135[20:29:03] <nvz> jimjamjim: only thin i lack to test this is
the 2nd display :P
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3136[20:29:23] <wonderer>
replaced-url
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3137[20:29:23] <nvz> jimjamjim: is this a laptop screen and
external monitor then?
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3138[20:29:46] <jimjamjim> nvz: no.. its a desktop with dual
monitor!
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3141[20:30:11] <jimjamjim> it used to work fine on debian 8.. :(
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3142[20:30:11] <nvz> jimjamjim: ok but you do have it setup as
two screens not mirrored rigth?
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3144[20:30:17] <jimjamjim> yes
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3148[20:33:00] <wonderer> jelly ?
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3158[20:36:29] <jelly> wonderer: that's after grub, and into
initramfs rescue shell. This means grub works and loads a kernel and
initramfs, and passes control correctly. Initramfs however has an
issue and cannot find the disk
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3162[20:36:46] <jelly> wonderer: which disk controller is in
there?
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3163[20:36:48] <wonderer> yep
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3164[20:36:51] <nvz> jimjamjim: im fairly cerain thats the right
property xfce settings editor wont let you create invalid props,
which means the issue must be with xorg driver somehow or a bug in
xfce/xfdesktop
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3166[20:37:06] <wonderer> perc controller
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3167[20:37:34] <wonderer> H330
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3168[20:37:35] <jelly> wonderer: which precisely, is it a hw raid
one or some cheaper stuff?
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3169[20:37:42] <wonderer> hw raid 1
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3170[20:37:52] <jelly> wonderer: sas or sata disks?
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3172[20:38:05] <wonderer> one sec
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3173[20:38:19] <wonderer> amsas
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3175[20:38:28] <wonderer> 2 x 500gb
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3176[20:38:39] <wonderer> sas i meant
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3177[20:39:13] * jelly didn't even know there were 500GB sas
devices
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3178[20:39:14] <wonderer> typical setup for OS raid
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3179[20:39:39] <jelly> wonderer: do you have a pastebin of lspci
-nn output?
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3181[20:40:07] <jelly> wonderer: can debian 9 live see the LUN
created on top of those two disks?
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3182[20:40:09] <wonderer> one sec
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3188[20:41:46] <jelly> wonderer: output of "lsmod" or
"cat /proc/modules" from initramfs and from live might be
helpful, if live works maybe you just need to recreate initramfs
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3189[20:41:59] <jelly> if not,
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3190[20:42:03] <jelly> !debug initramfs
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3191[20:42:03] <dpkg> it has been said that initramfsdebug is
replaced-url
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3192[20:42:06] <jhutchins_wk> wonderer: Is the source server on
RAID?
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3194[20:42:24] <wonderer> booting into live cd atm
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3195[20:42:27] <teraflops> dsdasd
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3196[20:42:31] <teraflops> ooops
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3198[20:42:40] <wonderer> just taking a while =Q
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3200[20:43:04] <nvz> jimjamjim: try #xfce i guess.. stretch is
running the latest
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3201[20:43:20] <jimjamjim> nvz: ok. thanks!
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3212[20:48:03] <wonderer> jelly
replaced-url
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3217[20:48:22] <wonderer> jhutchins no
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3219[20:48:42] <wonderer> source cloned server is simple 1 sata
160gb drive
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3220[20:48:57] <jelly> ,pciid 1000:005f
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3221[20:48:58] <judd> [1000:005f] is 'MegaRAID SAS-3 3008
[Fury]' from 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic' with no
known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also
replaced-url
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3223[20:49:18] <jelly> that can't be right
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3227[20:49:30] <wonderer> well
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3228[20:49:36] <wonderer> its not jessie am loading
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3229[20:49:43] <wonderer> its deb 6 squeeze
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3234[20:51:03] <jelly> wonderer: you'll have to use a newer
kernel than squeeze default.
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3235[20:51:12] <wonderer> but that lspci output is from live cd
deb 9
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3237[20:51:19] <wonderer> so maybe its a buggy output?
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3238[20:51:29] <wonderer> hmm
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3239[20:51:47] <jelly> wonderer: it's not buggy
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3240[20:52:05] <wonderer> well unfortunatelly i have to save this
deb 6 install as its runign on old hdd
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3243[20:52:33] <jelly> there's a driver in 4.9 kernel, but
not 2.6.32 from squeeze or even 3.2 from wheezy
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3244[20:52:34] <wonderer> the deb install come with bespoke built
python/django sites which i cant migrate to deb 8
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3245[20:52:43] <gardy> does anybody knows how to get that isp
based host name? i using pfsense and now i get only a ip number :/
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3246[20:52:46] <wonderer> have tried, for several days
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3247[20:52:50] <wonderer> hence clone
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3248[20:52:58] <jelly> wonderer: you'll have to use a newer
KERNEL than squeeze default. Not necessarily newer userspace.
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3250[20:53:12] <wonderer> could i just disable the raid altohter
and just have plane single drive?
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3251[20:53:26] <jelly> you'd still have the same controller
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3252[20:53:28] <wonderer> so?
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3253[20:53:35] <jelly> so same driver needed
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3255[20:54:04] <jelly>
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/modules.alias:alias
pci:v00001000d0000005Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i* megaraid_sas
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3259[20:54:16] <jelly> present in jessie default kernel
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3261[20:54:38] <wonderer> so thats it!
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3262[20:54:43] <wonderer> no way aroudn this
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3263[20:54:52] <jelly> why not?
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3264[20:55:10] <jelly> just put in a newer kernel
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3265[20:55:13] <wonderer> new kernel you say
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3266[20:55:21] <greycat> wonderer: so if the machine can't
run squeeze directly, then your next strategy would be installing
stretch as a host OS, and running squeeze in a VM, yes?
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3267[20:55:28] <wonderer> that means something newer than deb 6
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3268[20:55:33] <jelly> NO
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3271[20:55:53] <jelly> newer kernel means newer kernel. Not
"newer some other component"
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3272[20:56:15] <wonderer> so i have have newer kernel in a deb 6
install ?
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3273[20:56:20] <jelly> yes.
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3274[20:56:23] <wonderer> oh
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3277[20:56:37] <greycat> I'm not sure how high yup you can
crank the kernel version without touching userspace packages.
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3278[20:56:40] <wonderer> i learnt something new today :)
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3280[20:56:56] <wonderer> so greatful
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3281[20:56:57] <greycat> Eventually you'll hit some limit;
the kernel will need a newer udev or libc6 or something.
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3283[20:57:03] <jelly> greycat: version of initramfs-tools
required messes things up
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3284[20:57:16] <wonderer> ummmm so
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3285[20:57:36] <jelly> and sometimes Debian builds the kernel in
a way that makes old userspace not work
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3286[20:57:47] <wonderer> i have deb 9 livecd runing on the
server
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3289[20:58:12] <wonderer> do i just pump in a new kernal
somewhere on restored partion after mouning it?
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3291[20:58:22] <jelly> I'd see if 3.16 and initramfs-tools
from wheezy-backports can be installed, without touching other
packages
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3292[20:58:31] <wonderer> am a newbie at linux tbh but i know
some basic
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3293[20:58:41] <wonderer> jelly appreicate it
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3296[20:59:05] <wonderer> greycat thx for advise...
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3299[20:59:51] <jelly> wonderer: you could try just copying
/boot/*4.9.0-3-amd64* from live into your /boot on disk, and copying
/lib/modules/4.9.0-3-amd64 into /lib/modules on disk, boot it
manually from grub, but I _think_ squeeze libc6 won't like it
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3300[21:00:02] <jelly> easy to try
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3301[21:00:23] <wonderer> ok
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3303[21:00:24] <jelly> wonderer: mount your squeeze installation
from live cd, and try to chroot into it
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3305[21:00:29] <greycat> I would be rather shocked if a 4.9.x
kernel works on squeeze userspace
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3308[21:00:39] <wonderer> i need to mount the restored partiton
right?
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3309[21:00:46] <jelly> greycat: the kernel will always work :-)
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3311[21:00:50] <wonderer> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
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3312[21:00:56] <jelly> userspace... might not :-)
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3313[21:01:02] <jelly> yes
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3314[21:01:11] <greycat> We have differing meanings for
"work" :)
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3318[21:02:40] <jelly> lemme debootstrap a squeeze
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3319[21:02:44] <wonderer> ok
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3320[21:03:33] <wonderer> from fdisk -l i have a 465.3gb disk
with /dev/sda - so am right doing ? ==> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
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3322[21:04:12] <jelly> wonderer: lsblk or blkid will be more
helpful figuring out where the filesystem(s) is(are)
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3328[21:04:51] <jelly> # debootstrap squeeze
/opt/chroots/squeeze-amd64
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3329[21:04:51] <jelly> I: Retrieving InRelease
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3331[21:05:06] <jelly> it's... just hanging there. SAD.
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3332[21:05:21] <wonderer> can i screengrab and show jelly ?
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3336[21:06:02] <jelly> sure
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3338[21:06:24] <wonderer>
replaced-url
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3343[21:07:33] <jelly> wonderer: based on that output, which
partition do you think it might be
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3346[21:07:48] <wonderer> sda1
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3348[21:08:04] <wonderer> coz source was a 160gb drive i cloned
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3350[21:08:11] <jelly> yeah
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3351[21:08:15] <wonderer> ok
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3353[21:08:23] <wonderer> nice cmd
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3354[21:08:29] <jelly> blkid is also nice
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3359[21:08:52] <wonderer> ok mounted
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3360[21:09:01] <wonderer> but livecd dont show?
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3366[21:09:42] <jelly> wonderer: what do you meant, doesn't
show? Do you see it in "df" or "mount" output or
something under ls -la /mnt/ ?
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3367[21:10:07] <wonderer> grr
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