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55[00:22:04] <srvk> It seems dpkg wants linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64 for installing xen-linux-system-4.6.0-1-amd64, but I have linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed instead. Can/should I force it to use the kernel I already have? (Debian Sid)
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59[00:26:29] <srvk> I don't even know the difference between the unsigned and signed kernel, I just figured I better get the signed one...
60[00:27:21] <Wally> srvk I think the newer kernels support new features
61[00:27:28] <Wally> AUFS for example
62[00:27:36] <Wally> Oh wait.. nvm
63[00:27:45] <Wally> I dunno how that works, maybe a symbolic link?
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65[00:28:03] <srvk> I think it's the same version, what I have and what xen wants, but I have the -signed ppackage, so dpkg doesnt accept it
66[00:28:14] <srvk> asks me to remove the kernel
67[00:28:25] <Wally> Try a symbolic link to the one it wants from your existing kernel
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69[00:29:38] <srvk> for the kernel itself or for the package?
70[00:29:48] <Wally> kernel
71[00:30:20] <srvk> the file seems to already have the same name
72[00:30:28] <srvk> it's just the package that's different
73[00:30:56] <Wally> you probably chan change the configure script then
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80[00:34:27] <srvk> there seems to be this issue: Version of linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64 on system, provided by linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed:amd64, is <none>.
81[00:34:36] <srvk> this is normal?
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108[00:51:12] <AmazeCPK> I'm having trouble connecting to mydomain.com/wp while following these instructions: replaced-url
109[00:51:31] <AmazeCPK> I am greeted with this error: Error establishing a database connection
110[00:51:36] <Wally> did you setup a database?
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112[00:52:16] <Wally> did you reload apache?
113[00:52:25] <AmazeCPK> ye, instructions had me create a database called 'wordpress' using a script
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115[00:52:44] <AmazeCPK> I have reloaded apache
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118[00:52:56] <`Kevin> can you connect to the database from that host?
119[00:53:00] <`Kevin> eg mysql on command line
120[00:53:16] <AmazeCPK> yes, using root, have not tried the user, one second
121[00:53:59] <AmazeCPK> yes I can connect using the test user
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123[00:54:04] <Wally> did you chmod the directory for replaced-url
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125[00:54:09] <Wally> chown*
126[00:54:25] <AmazeCPK> I have not. have not seen that in the instructions at this point
127[00:55:25] <`Kevin> verify your wp config file has the proper DB connection settings, if it does write a minimal php script that connects to mysql to begin debugging php itself
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130[00:56:34] <AmazeCPK> oh man, that's out of my scope of knowledge at the moment
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138[00:58:56] <Wally> also AmazeCPK maybe check to see if sql is running sudo service mysql start
139[00:59:03] <Wally> sometimes that can be the problem ;)
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142[01:00:42] <AmazeCPK> was running, but tried again. still same error
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295[02:40:37] <starstuff> How do I get a list of all i386 packages that I've installed? I can't remember and I need to know them. Thanks.
296[02:41:41] <missmbob> starstuff: dpkg -l |grep i386
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298[02:42:09] <missmbob> missmbob: you can also use |grep ^i with it or whatever else you want
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374[03:21:53] <klow> Trying to figure out if I have a network problem or if debian US apt mirrors are painfully slow sometimes in general?
375[03:21:58] <rsully> Is there a ppa that I can use to get a modern version of openssh on debian? 6.7 is suuuper old guys
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377[03:25:22] <AmazeCPK> I am trying to restart apache2 after making changes to my domain.conf file but, an error informs me apache2.service failed to restart
378[03:25:29] <AmazeCPK> replaced-url
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384[03:31:00] <AmazeCPK> anyone?
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389[03:33:25] <Tdunk> hello
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391[03:33:43] <AmazeCPK> double hello!
392[03:34:12] <Tdunk> trying to figure out why i cant send messages on the linux channel
393[03:34:21] <AmazeCPK> you need to identify
394[03:34:31] <Tdunk> hmm i thought i did
395[03:34:41] <AmazeCPK> ./msg nisckserv identify <nick> <pass>
396[03:34:56] <AmazeCPK> everytime you log into the channel
397[03:35:10] <sypher> Every time you connect to the server. Not the channel.
398[03:35:41] <AmazeCPK> ^^ my bad
399[03:36:03] <Tdunk> hello
400[03:36:07] <AmazeCPK> hello
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487[04:33:46] <bagbobilgins> very much so
488[04:33:51] <bagbobilgins> hi all
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530[04:53:58] <strafiken> hey :)
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532[04:54:06] <strafiken> I know i'm likely to get flamed
533[04:54:24] <strafiken> but has anyone had any luck installing debian on a macbook air from usb?
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553[05:07:30] <bagbobilgins> strafiken: there are issues with the newer ones
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555[05:07:37] <bagbobilgins> speak to the bots
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620[05:45:57] <john_rambo> I read that a recent update has replaced iceweasel with FIrefox ESR ...... But that didn't happen at my end ......This is my sources.list ....replaced-url
621[05:46:25] <john_rambo> Using Jessie
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623[05:47:21] <k_sze[work]> If I want to change the timezone manually, without using `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata`, is it just a matter of changing the /etc/localtime symlink?
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625[05:47:39] <k_sze[work]> I see that there is also an /etc/timezone file. Do I have to change that, too?
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628[05:50:46] <john_rambo> Anyone ?
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698[06:34:27] <reev> Hii I am using debian jessie ,I dont want to run anacron from cron job via /etc/cron.d/anacron , what if i remove anacron from cron.d , will anacron still be running after reboot
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715[06:41:36] <jmcnaught> reev: why don't you want anacron running?
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733[06:51:33] <vahe> hi all
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735[06:52:14] <reev> jmcnaught I want anacron to run only when machine reboots now what is happening when machines is running without any reboot, anacron runs every day at 7:30 which is due to anacron entry in cron.d
736[06:52:18] <reev> I dont want this
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738[06:52:31] <reev> behaviour
739[06:52:40] <reev> is it okay to do so?
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741[06:53:31] <reev> I want to know if i remove that cron entry of anacron will anacron still be running after reboot
742[06:53:45] <vahe> hi all,bought a minipc ,there ubuntu unity ,I want to use as a server to disable or remove X(unity) how to disable or remove? may just change chmod to 644 ?
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744[06:54:05] <jmcnaught> reev: as far as i know anacron doesn't run persistently
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746[06:55:03] <reev> cron is running anacron every day at 7:30 through /etc/cron.d/anacron file
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748[06:55:31] <reev> right now i have commented that entry
749[06:57:01] <jmcnaught> reev: check the "DEBIAN SPECIFIC" part of cron(8). cron stops handling /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,montly} when anacron is installed to prevent conflicts
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754[06:58:10] <jmcnaught> reev: so if you still want the jobs in those directories to run, just with cron, you should maybe remove the anacron package altogether
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765[07:03:50] <reev> jmnaught: okay this seems legit, anacron is also run by cron that is why it has entry in /etc/cron.d directory but if i remove this entry will anacron still run after reboot
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767[07:04:25] <reev> have you checked this on your machine
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772[07:05:41] <jmcnaught> reev: i see no reason to disable anacron. if you're going to disable it but leave it installed you should look closer into how cron and anacron interact on Debian
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777[07:08:35] <reev> jmcnaught you are not getting my point here I just disabled anacron not to run everyday at 7:30 thats it, anacron is supposed to run after reboot I haven't changed anything related to this particular behaviour
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781[07:10:04] <jmcnaught> reev: it will run at startup. you might have daily, weekly, monthly jobs that don't run on time
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787[07:12:31] <jmcnaught> reev: things that run at startup that are installed from packages will have a systemd unit or init script that you can check with "systemctl is-enabled anacron" for example
788[07:13:15] <jmcnaught> reev: anyways you may want to also see anacron's README.Debian
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793[07:14:09] <reev> jmcnaught replaced-url
794[07:14:14] <reev> let me check that
795[07:14:53] <reev> this configuration will still run daily, weekly, monthly jobs since they are not commented in /etc/crontab
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803[07:18:05] <jmcnaught> reev: " test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts ..." it only runs those jobs if anacron is not installed
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806[07:19:16] <jmcnaught> reev: so remove anacron package so cron takes over those jobs, or accept that those jobs only get checked at boot
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808[07:19:31] <reev> jmcnaught okay ,I didn't pay attention to test -x there
809[07:19:35] <jmcnaught> or you know, leave it with Debian default
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823[07:29:20] <reev> jmcnaught thanks for following up
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827[07:32:36] <jmcnaught> reev: you're welcome. do you mind if i ask why you want to stop anacron from running in the morning? If it's a computer that's not on all the time, it makes sense to use anacron because it guarantees those monthly jobs run. with cron if the computer isn't running when the monthly job is scheduled, it doesn't get run
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833[07:37:56] <reev> jmcnaught I have script which i want to run at midnight but issue is system is not up sometimes at that time So to overcome that I use anacron in such a way that run script after reboot but if system is up run script at midnight
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837[07:39:07] <reev> now whats happening system is up script ran at midnight via cron and after that at 7:30 anacron starts and again runs the script
838[07:39:37] <reev> scipt is configured to run both via cron and anacron in /etc/crontab
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853[07:46:04] <jmcnaught> reev: that's interesting. did you consider simply changing the time that anacron runs to be midnight instead of 7:30?
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856[07:50:09] <jmcnaught> reev: another option you could try is a systemd.timer unit with Persistent=true set
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859[07:51:00] <ld> hi guys
860[07:51:20] <ld> for some reason when i boot up, gnome no longer starts properly
861[07:52:04] <reev> jmcnaught hmm you mean to say that run script via anacron only by configuring anacorn to run at midnight
862[07:52:13] <reev> rather than 7:30
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864[07:53:03] <reev> jmcnaught I still use sysvinit kernel
865[07:53:39] <Ticho> sysvinit has a kernel now? wow :)
866[07:54:04] <ld> i installed debian jesse, and one day i boot my system and x doesnt start. how can i find out what is going wrong?
867[07:54:13] <ld> i had gnome installed
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869[07:54:41] <reev> Ticho debian jeesie gives you choice to boot systemd kernel or sysvinit kernel
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871[07:54:43] <ld> what is normally run to start gnome up
872[07:55:03] <jmcnaught> reev: well systemd has timer units that are like cron jobs, and they have a Persistent= directive that catches up on missed jobs
873[07:55:21] <jmcnaught> reev: systemd and sysvinit are init systems, not kernels. linux is the kernel
874[07:55:35] <reev> jmcnaught okay i will look into this
875[07:56:05] <reev> yes theu are init systems but I mean to say sysvinit enables kernel
876[07:56:10] <reev> *enabled
877[07:56:12] <jmcnaught> ld: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. if you put that on replaced-url
878[07:57:13] <jmcnaught> reev: when linux boots it looks for /sbin/init and runs that. init starts all the system services. systemd is a newer init than sysvinit
879[07:57:13] <reev> jmcnaught are you trying to say that run script via anacron only by configuring anacorn to run at midnight?
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883[07:58:07] <jmcnaught> reev: yeah.. if anacron runs once a day, make it run at midnight instead of 7:30.
884[07:58:29] <jmcnaught> reev: what is the anacrontab line that you used for the script?
885[07:58:39] <reev> one sec
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890[08:00:28] <ld> jmcnaught: thanks
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893[08:02:09] <ld> here is my Xorg.0.log replaced-url
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895[08:02:24] <ld> I think it is gdm3 that is the issue
896[08:02:27] <ld> x is configured fine
897[08:03:01] <ld> service gdm3 status says it exited with no error
898[08:03:03] <jmcnaught> ld: then look at "journalctl -u gdm"
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901[08:03:55] <ld> its empty, but gdm3 isnt running and when i start it it doesn't appear to do anything
902[08:04:10] <jmcnaught> ld: how are you starting it?
903[08:04:39] <ld> service gdm3 start
904[08:04:57] <jmcnaught> do you have any other DMs installed? what does "systemctl status display-manager" say?
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907[08:05:30] <jmcnaught> oh it's probably the same as "service ..." but can you make a paste?
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909[08:05:52] <ld> display-manager.service
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913[08:06:40] <ld> I don't have any other DMs installed
914[08:07:00] <jmcnaught> ld: "Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service; enabled)" is what it says for me
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916[08:07:04] <ld> although i did just install a bunch of gnome-keyring packages of a different architecture
917[08:07:11] <ld> for other reasons
918[08:07:17] <ld> which i think is waht did it
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920[08:08:00] <ld> maybe it got uninstalled somehow???
921[08:08:13] <jmcnaught> apt-cache policy gdm3
922[08:09:09] <ld> yep, i dont have the gnome-session package, it must have gotten uninstalled
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924[08:10:09] <ld> i must have uninstalled it by accident when i installed the gnome-keyring:i386 or something
925[08:10:17] <ld> apt-get install gnome-session fixed the issue, thanks
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990[08:44:42] <rak7HsEqu> hello guys, I'm thinking on switching my desktop to debian, however i want to have more recent updates than the stable branch, between testing and unstable which one do you recommend?
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992[08:45:59] <AkQ> Windows 10
993[08:46:39] <rak7HsEqu> AkQ: and cyanide right?
994[08:46:45] <AkQ> ;D
995[08:47:04] <AkQ> sorry, i'm new to linux world x) just a noob here
996[08:47:36] <rak7HsEqu> k
997[08:48:00] <up2late> LOL
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1000[08:49:50] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: replaced-url
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1005[08:53:01] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: yeah i know, but how often does those breaks happen?
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1009[08:53:49] <jmcnaught> more often when there's a big transition, less often during the freeze period for testing
1010[08:54:18] <jmcnaught> if you want a computer that works the same way everyday and gets new versions of everything every couple of years, use debian stable
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1014[08:54:41] <rak7HsEqu> i would like to have recent packages tho
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1018[08:55:08] <jmcnaught> if you know how to fix package problems and other linux issues, you can try testing or unstable, especially if you're interested in reporting bugs
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1020[08:56:01] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: what are you missing from the newer packages? i use jessie on my laptop, i don't really feel like i'm missing out on much
1021[08:56:32] <jmcnaught> with stable you can also use backports for newer versions of some packages
1022[08:57:09] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: i use some python modules on its recent versions, but i've run into problems updating them from pip for example, so i prefer to have a recent version of those packages on the OS repositories
1023[08:57:47] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: what problems with pip? you're not running pip as root are you?
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1031[09:00:12] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: why not?
1032[09:00:25] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: I mean, currently i don't, i rarely use pip
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1037[09:02:18] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: it can interfere with dpkg managed files, and PyPI packages can be uploaded by pretty much anyone
1038[09:02:52] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: replaced-url
1039[09:03:23] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: the thing is that once i tried to install some packages (numpy, scipy, pandas, etc) using pip on a clean install... it blew up
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1041[09:03:41] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: it was a long time ago, but since then i've never used pip for such modules
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1044[09:04:14] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: try it in a virtualenv as a regular user
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1049[09:06:32] <unborn> morning all :)
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1051[09:06:46] <spidy> good morning :)
1052[09:07:05] <ransur0t> happy midnight from my tzone ;)
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1054[09:07:40] <plasmoduck> what?
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1062[09:11:56] <AkQ> can i have subdomains for my server if i got no real domain, just the IP-address
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1064[09:13:20] <rozie> AkQ: depends what you understand by "subdomain for server"
1065[09:13:43] <rozie> server mostly has nothing to do with domains (check if not vhost)
1066[09:13:46] <AkQ> subdomain.123.12.21.12
1067[09:14:11] <rozie> and you can set record for any domain (subdomain is a domain too)
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1070[09:14:38] <rozie> but higher level needs to exist somewhere
1071[09:14:55] <AkQ> apparently ovh gives domain for every server by default
1072[09:14:57] <rozie> even if this is just a NS entry in other DNS server
1073[09:15:16] <AkQ> vps123456.ovh.net so the domain would be ... subdomain.vps123456.ovh.net right?
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1076[09:15:49] <jmcnaught> AkQ: you'd have to ask ovh.net to give you that subdomain
1077[09:16:14] <AkQ> ask? it cannot be done just by myself?
1078[09:16:58] <jmcnaught> AkQ: maybe in the ovh admin page
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1080[09:17:11] <unborn> AkQ: if you dont have proper dns and real domain, I think the way to get it is add ip of your srv and subdomain link into your hosts..
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1082[09:18:08] <unborn> AkQ: if you do run your own dns srv somewhere or be it on same srv then theoretically it could work but again - running this as subdomain.ip is just nonsense
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1085[09:18:23] <jmcnaught> unborn: srv?
1086[09:18:23] <AkQ> so i need the domain
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1089[09:19:55] <unborn> jmcnaught: srv I mean server in short
1090[09:20:18] <jmcnaught> unborn: it's confusing because SRV is a type of DNS record
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1092[09:21:07] <rozie> +1
1093[09:21:20] <unborn> AkQ: yeah it makes sense if you want to share that domain to outer worlds.. if not just add subdomain with ip of your srv to your hosts file (I am guessing that you running dns srv somewhere aka bind) so when you do subdomain.ipofsrv your srv will know where to point that subdomain..
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1095[09:21:35] <rozie> don't guess ;)
1096[09:21:46] <rozie> he probably has just an OVH panel
1097[09:21:47] <unborn> jmcnaught: what is confusing? bind server?
1098[09:21:59] <rozie> unborn: there is SRV record in DNS
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1100[09:22:14] <jmcnaught> unborn: when you shorten server to srv it's not clear if you mean an srv record or not
1101[09:22:14] <unborn> rozie: yeah I got strong feeling that he is on basic setup
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1103[09:22:21] <rozie> using srv for server and for record while talking about DNS is confusing
1104[09:22:58] * unborn sorry guys for confusion - I did not mean it.. just bit lazy to type whole world out.. lesson learned
1105[09:23:02] <AkQ> yea i got ovh manager open - the thing is that i need to install a forum to a servers subdomain without having the real domain yet, because of lack of money.. i suppose i just wait few days to get moneyz and buy that domain and then get the subdomain and then install the forum to the subdomain, seems easier
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1107[09:23:07] <rozie> AkQ: please contact OVH support with your questions. it's not Debian related in any way and not even general DNS question
1108[09:23:26] <unborn> and autoreplace in my client updated :)
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1110[09:23:48] <rozie> my short answer is: set NS records for this subdomain, use some free DNS servers (like he.net) and do whatever you want with this (sub)domain
1111[09:23:57] <jmcnaught> AkQ: changing the domain name that the forum software is running on a few days after installing it doesn't sound like a great idea
1112[09:24:06] <rozie> not sure if OVH allows for this, but...
1113[09:24:21] <AkQ> jmcnaught my thoughts exactly
1114[09:24:25] <Wally> Backup the forum database.. Do the sub domain, reinstall software
1115[09:24:27] <Wally> restore forum database
1116[09:24:48] <Wally> Why do you need a forum anyway?
1117[09:25:07] <AkQ> for a project - but i just do something else for the project before getting moneyz for the domain
1118[09:25:17] <jmcnaught> Wally: and if the forum software keeps hardlinks to itself in the database?
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1120[09:25:32] <Wally> jmcnaught that's why I said to reinstall the software :P
1121[09:25:45] <AkQ> unborn i am too new to linux world to do that :/
1122[09:25:46] <jmcnaught> Wally: and then restore the database...
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1126[09:25:59] <Wally> The forum database shouldn't have that stuff in it.
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1128[09:26:21] <jmcnaught> Wally: i agree, but i've seen it with wordpress so it wouldn't surprise me
1129[09:26:26] <Wally> ah wordpress.
1130[09:26:27] <unborn> AkQ: and trust me i am more happy with my own server. it just works..
1131[09:26:38] <Wally> carry on.
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1133[09:27:06] <AkQ> my ISP has a rule that i cannot host services from my internet connection
1134[09:27:36] <Wally> What sort of ISP is that?
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1136[09:27:37] <AkQ> or at least i think its a rule
1137[09:27:42] <jmcnaught> anyways, you can only create a subdomain of ovh.net if OVH sets up SOA start of authority record for your VPS's subdomain and points it at your nameserver
1138[09:27:45] <unborn> AkQ: I would still say, speak to your hosting provider - end of the day that is what you are paying for there.. support is there as well and I think they will be much more helpful then us.
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1141[09:28:31] <AkQ> yea, i'll do that
1142[09:28:33] <AkQ> thansk
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1144[09:29:08] <jmcnaught> DNS is hierarchical, you need the permission of a domain to make a subdomain
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1146[09:29:31] <AkQ> OVH Anycast DNS - is it worth it?
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1148[09:29:53] <unborn> jmcnaught: exactly you just said, that is why I told him, that he should have real domain otherwise nothing much will work..
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1152[09:31:05] <venkat_330> is it advisable to run application with privilage 4755 ??
1153[09:31:23] <unborn> AkQ: when you purchase domain - you can point that domain to your ip (your server ip) and there if you would run bind server which manages dns - then you can create subdomains on a go.. if you cannot run dns server your self then all you can do is create subdomain on your domain register star and point A records to it
1154[09:31:47] <unborn> but I think there is an limit with those - anyway that is off topic. Lets get back to debian ;)
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1157[09:32:31] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: which program?
1158[09:32:39] <AkQ> i'm interested about setting up a home server for domains - i've got 4 domains and i have to pay 20e/year for them ;G
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1160[09:33:05] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: a custom application.
1161[09:33:25] <AkQ> unborn: is there a guide how to do it to home laptop server?
1162[09:33:26] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: do you know what 4755 does? which user owns the file?
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1164[09:33:50] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: Earlier i saw the system was completely running under root..Now i am trying to run under normal user.
1165[09:33:55] <unborn> AkQ: its easy. there is a plenty of material on google for that or you can hire some pro to help you with it
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1167[09:34:07] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: User ..
1168[09:34:09] <AkQ> i don't want to hire anyone, i want to learn this stuff
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1174[09:34:59] <jmcnaught> running DNS servers on a residential internet connection isn't advisable especially if you expect any sort of traffic
1175[09:35:01] <unborn> AkQ: sure as I said before there is plenty of stuff on google.. just use it
1176[09:35:35] <unborn> jmcnaught: I see no reason why.. im doing that for more then 7 years same as so many people :)
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1178[09:36:08] <unborn> its same as someone would tell oh you cannot have ssl if you have no static ip
1179[09:36:19] <AkQ> if i have shitty home connection, does it affect how fast my websites load? they are not located at home
1180[09:36:21] <unborn> (with all respect) - those are myths
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1182[09:36:46] <jmcnaught> because residential internet is less reliable, and likely has higher latency than a system in a data centre
1183[09:36:47] <unborn> AkQ: yes it will.. I mean really you should google it
1184[09:37:01] <AkQ> damn i think i can't do that then
1185[09:37:16] <AkQ> i have shit 4g connection
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1187[09:37:26] <jmcnaught> i've run home servers, but the DNS was in some cloud somewhere
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1191[09:38:10] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: so the program is owned by a regular user, and then what runs it?
1192[09:38:49] <venkat_330> i am trying access a peripheral device (digital I/O port) with it.
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1196[09:40:14] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: the program runs interactively, or some background process starts it?
1197[09:40:35] <venkat_330> runs interactively now..
1198[09:41:11] <venkat_330> but intended run under normal user during startup
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1200[09:42:07] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: you can set the user you want to run it as with the User= directive in a systemd unit, or with start-stop-daemon in an initscript
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1204[09:43:58] <unborn> jmcnaught: I think if user know what he/she is doing and have decent internet connection in home/office which these days are nearly everywhere, user would be just fine, but managing bind for newbie could be not so easy to understand so yeah if that - external dnses could be helpful.
1205[09:44:23] <unborn> AkQ: for server you would defo need normal connection - not mobile one.
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1207[09:44:31] <AkQ> definitely
1208[09:45:02] <jmcnaught> unborn: for a lot of people it would mean their domains all go down when they move to a new house or apartment
1209[09:45:20] <AkQ> can't have that
1210[09:45:21] <sukhoi> hello guys
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1212[09:46:03] <sukhoi> Is there a person that have used maxscale
1213[09:46:04] <sukhoi> ?
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1217[09:48:11] <Wally> no
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1219[09:49:04] <unborn> jmcnaught: oh yah - that is quiet normal.. seen it many times but even with those companies aka hostgator or justhost - it happen all the time and hostings like those companies are mostly used... it will happen even if you have external dnses and server in home.. no one will die for bit downtime, we both know it and we could go with it all day but I think its perfectly normal to host your sites from home if you have decent connection. nothing wrong
1220[09:49:04] <unborn> with it. I think AkQ did understand it now a bit better and we can move on from off topic. btw great discussion. thanks.
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1222[09:50:16] <AkQ> thanks for all your input unborn
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1257[10:10:06] <MaBunny> where can i find the debugged .so file for libstdc++ dynamic lib
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1286[10:27:39] <gbit> Hi all, I'm setting up a chroot jail into ssh, but I'm having problem with php, it can't find the env path. Do you guys have any idea what I can be missing here?
1287[10:28:09] <Wally> have you set the [env] path?
1288[10:28:23] <gbit> yes
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1290[10:29:29] <Wally> k
1291[10:29:32] <Wally> no idea
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1332[10:54:53] <quackgyver> replaced-url
1333[10:54:59] <quackgyver> So where do I go from here to download the .deb file
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1341[10:57:48] <Epakai> quackgyver: you should just install it using apt, but otherwise click on the release link for whatever debian version you have installed, at the bottom of the page there are links for each architecture to download the package
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1346[10:59:57] <quackgyver> Epakai: I tried clicking the jessie release but can't figure out where to go from there
1347[11:00:05] <quackgyver> I'm trying to put an executable of dosbox on a thumb drive
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1350[11:01:11] <Epakai> this probably isn't the right way to do that, the debian package's executable will still depend on other packages being installed
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1356[11:05:53] <quackgyver> So there's no way to do it?
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1365[11:12:06] <Wally> Unless you can guarantee that you have the dependancies on another machine.
1366[11:12:14] <Epakai> build a statically linked dosbox executable, but i don't know how to do that
1367[11:12:20] <Wally> If you compile dosbox and have all the libs with you, it shouldn't be too big of an issue
1368[11:12:24] <quackgyver> Sounds a bit complicated
1369[11:12:33] <quackgyver> so i guess i better just skip it
1370[11:12:34] <Wally> hi BTW :)
1371[11:12:38] <quackgyver> sup wally
1372[11:12:45] <Wally> Oh you know. Just lurking.
1373[11:13:02] <quackgyver> sweet
1374[11:13:05] <Wally> Pretty sure a compiled dosbox will just work fine on a USB stick as debian does have all the crap you need by default.
1375[11:13:28] <Wally> actually i'll take that back.
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1378[11:16:42] <Wally> What's the purpose of this exercise quackgyver? :)
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1384[11:20:21] <quackgyver> Wally: I just want a portable multi-platform dropbox setup on usb
1385[11:20:28] <quackgyver> for gaming and msdos coding on the go
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1387[11:20:34] <Wally> Just use your Pandora ;)
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1390[11:22:26] <venkat_330> can someone suggest best way to access digital IO / parallel port
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1416[11:42:17] <quackgyver> Wally: dont got one :p
1417[11:42:22] <Wally> D:
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1430[11:51:46] <Sayona> Hello, I want to set iptables for my debian, do you have a good tutorial for this? thanks
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1432[11:52:31] <Epakai> !iptables
1433[11:52:31] <dpkg> [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see replaced-url
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1438[11:54:26] <Sayona> thanks
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1440[11:55:05] <ransur0t> Hi folks. Anyone here with experience with using VLC and icecast streams behind a proxy?
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1442[11:55:33] <ransur0t> (I've asked at #videolan but not gotten a response ...)
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1449[11:59:00] <vahe> hi all ,ifconfige not see wlan0, only eth0 and lo,now wifi is not working
1450[11:59:43] <rozie> vahe: did it work before?
1451[12:00:05] <vahe> rozie: yes
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1453[12:00:38] <vahe> rozie: I updated and after this is not visible
1454[12:00:46] <rozie> what did you update?
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1456[12:01:03] <vahe> apt upgrade
1457[12:01:03] <apt> Upgrading is easy! Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
1458[12:01:03] <vahe> nothing removed
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1499[12:37:14] <AquaL1te> hi guys, i want to create a docker image that installs a remote .deb file. but apt-get can't fetch a remote deb? and dpkg -i can't resolve dependencies. is there a way to install a remote .deb like the package manager of fedora? dnf (fedora) for example can do this, it installs all the dependencies
1500[12:37:38] <Wally> apt-get?
1501[12:38:27] <AquaL1te> Wally: apt-get install $REMOTE_URL_DEB, if that makes it more clear for you :)
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1505[12:39:12] <Wally> apt can grab all the dependancies for a certain application
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1507[12:39:59] <AquaL1te> Wally: try: apt-get install replaced-url
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1509[12:40:23] <Wally> righto
1510[12:40:36] <themill> downloading random packages, not authenticating them and then installing them doesn't work by design
1511[12:40:37] <Wally> I see your point.
1512[12:40:52] <Epakai> apt-get install --fix-missing
1513[12:41:21] <AquaL1te> Epakai: no apt can't fetch a remote deb, that's the problem ;-) dpkg -i can't resolve dependencies
1514[12:41:42] <AquaL1te> so the answer is, don't use a deb based distro?
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1518[12:41:52] <Wally> gdebi?
1519[12:42:00] <Epakai> dpkg will still install it, it just won't configure it, so you run apt-get to finish the configuration
1520[12:42:01] <dpkg> Epakai: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
1521[12:42:11] <themill> AquaL1te: no, the answer is not to do untrustworthy operations
1522[12:42:14] <Wally> Try gdebi
1523[12:42:48] <Epakai> dpkg hush
1524[12:42:49] <dpkg> Fine, I'll shut up.
1525[12:42:53] <AquaL1te> themill: same answer :P dnf/yum can do it, so i guess i should just use that
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1527[12:43:09] <AquaL1te> Wally: i'll try to build the image with the gdebi command
1528[12:43:09] <themill> AquaL1te: apt is perfectly capable of downloading packages if they can be trusted
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1530[12:43:56] <Wally> you need to have the deb on your local machine
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1532[12:44:07] <Wally> but it should resolve dependancies
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1534[12:44:45] <AquaL1te> themill: so a local deb can be installed by deb? i'll check that out
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1536[12:44:53] <AquaL1te> *by apt
1537[12:45:01] <Epakai> wget url/package.deb; dpkg -i package.deb; apt-get install --fix-missing
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1539[12:45:18] <themill> don't wget packages from untrusted URLs
1540[12:45:19] <vita_cell> hi, can someone help me? with PowerPC
1541[12:45:23] <AquaL1te> Epakai: docker build will fail before you can do --fix-missing
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1544[12:45:50] <AquaL1te> themill: okay :D i give up, so don't use deb based distros
1545[12:45:55] <funkadelic> how do i tell apt-get to ask me if i want to install a package before actually installing it? ive noticed that some times it asks and sometimes it does not, why is this and how do i make it always ask?
1546[12:46:09] <AquaL1te> i'll try a fedora base image and make my life easier ^^
1547[12:46:15] <Epakai> then create your own repo, it's not terribly hard
1548[12:46:27] <AquaL1te> Epakai: it's a docker image...
1549[12:46:50] <themill> AquaL1te: umm... it doesn't suddenly become trustable because you use a different tool
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1551[12:47:18] <AquaL1te> themill: true, but i can't install a local deb, so that already fails
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1553[12:47:28] <funkadelic> Epakai, speaking of repos, since you mentioned it. i do need to create my own repo, i only get X amount of data per month, a very meager amount. how do i go about doing that?
1554[12:47:28] <AquaL1te> with deps resolved
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1557[12:48:25] <Epakai> so, do you need to ignore dpkg -i returning a failure?
1558[12:48:27] <AquaL1te> alright, i'll just use fedora. thanks for your time anyway :-)
1559[12:48:36] <themill> whatever...
1560[12:48:48] <themill> it's not like people don't install packages on debian.
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1564[12:50:31] <AquaL1te> themill: riight, too much pride in a distro to recognize that apt isn't that awesome? anyway, i'm not here to start a flame war. i thought debian would be an easy fix since i need an older gcc to fix this image. but i'll use fedora 23, that one still use a compabitle gcc
1565[12:50:34] <Epakai> i'm not familiar with docker, but if it's failing because dpkg -i returns a failing exit code then you could just do dpkg -i package.deb||true
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1587[12:58:30] <Fjorgynn> tried to install x in debian
1588[12:58:36] <Fjorgynn> but only root can startx
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1590[13:00:17] <unborn> Epakai: sorry to sound bad but - you should ask docker chan for that..
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1592[13:00:50] <unborn> Fjorgynn: how about gnome or any other de?
1593[13:01:01] <Fjorgynn> dunno
1594[13:01:05] <Fjorgynn> I was installing i3
1595[13:01:15] <Fjorgynn> command line
1596[13:01:32] <Sayona> Hi, is a way to configure my sendmail to use a external smtp server to send emails?
1597[13:01:37] <unborn> i3? sound to me as cpu sorry - im just ict guy... okay install gnome and try it (after reboot)
1598[13:02:08] <Fjorgynn> I don't want gnome
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1601[13:02:45] <Fjorgynn> installed lightdm
1602[13:02:47] <Fjorgynn> now it works
1603[13:02:52] <unborn> Sayona: there is but its fraking complicated and once you do it - you will have to use same account for everything which leads to mess.. how about if you do install sendEmail (not sendmail) - that would work with as many accounts - easy.. really I mean easy
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1605[13:03:07] <unborn> Fjorgynn: great - so issue solved.
1606[13:03:29] <Sayona> unborn, uff
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1608[13:04:35] <unborn> Sayona: its easy like to do google search :)
1609[13:04:47] <Sayona> i try yes
1610[13:04:50] <Sayona> thanks
1611[13:04:51] <unborn> just install the package and you good to go..
1612[13:04:56] <Epakai> Fjorgynn: try 'dpkg-reconfigure x11-common' as root, if it is set to root only that's your problem, otherwise check ~/.xsession-errors to see why it's failing
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1615[13:05:26] <Fjorgynn> Epakai: it's wierd that after I installed lightdm I could login
1616[13:05:28] <Epakai> a display manager is a good solution if you normally want X though
1617[13:05:38] <unborn> Sayona: replaced-url
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1619[13:05:51] <Sayona> thanks
1620[13:05:56] <unborn> Sayona: package is in apt-get
1621[13:06:09] <Sayona> let me try
1622[13:06:11] <unborn> but info is on that website.. really easy
1623[13:06:14] <unborn> sure have fun
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1630[13:10:58] <unborn> Sayona: best thing is - it works very nice along side of sendmail - means you can run both separated - but on same system so.. let me know if you encounter any issues.. i do use it for all of my machines (no dns no email server, no anything on system - to do deliver reports of updates and health checks for hardware and firewall and firmware - my mother of law seems to be idiotic so I need to know if she is updated or not before she can make my bold
1631[13:10:58] <unborn> head even bolder) :)
1632[13:11:33] <Sayona> I need sendmail to send my the logs etc
1633[13:11:34] <Sayona> :D
1634[13:11:46] <unborn> - also I use that for ssh logons on my servers - I did mentioned that right?
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1636[13:12:02] <Sayona> fail2ban
1637[13:12:04] <unborn> Sayona: well then simple sh script will deliver that...
1638[13:12:41] <unborn> yeah - I do use it too :) just use google for this...its out there .. some really nice scripts with sendemail :)
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1643[13:14:37] <unborn> I mean you can still use sendmail but for local system - the install on your laptop or desktop - well - you will have to do full setup regards dns and email accounts and static ip.. - you know, you can hire someone for that stuff..it would be much faster
1644[13:15:09] * unborn and you will have to be located on that very same ip all the times ;)
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1648[13:16:45] <unborn> common sense would be setup sendemial and then deploy for I dont know every 5 minutes sh script which you would do execute as normal user - to send you those logs or changes in logs - you know you can deliver this via xmpp or google hangouts too.. heh
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1651[13:17:12] <unborn> its all up to you.. you can do it.
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1658[13:20:23] <unborn> - thanks for you pm - im not a freak, I just try to help end user - I mean really people?
1659[13:20:55] <unborn> Sayona: sorry for too much info - I mean you can do it. have nice day
1660[13:20:56] <unborn> .
1661[13:21:11] <Sayona> :* thanks
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1665[13:24:06] <unborn> Sayona: sure, you have all info you need it to have and all leads to do it right - so go for it :) - have nice day.
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1683[13:34:24] <sayNi> Does anyone know if Midori will be added to the Jessie packages any time soon?
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1685[13:35:28] <Epakai> jessie is released, no packages are being added
1686[13:36:07] <Epakai> it is available in jessie-backports
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1688[13:36:23] <sayNi> Just curious, because I see that it is in the package manager for SID. I was unaware that they can't change the available packages once it's released.
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1690[13:37:43] <sayNi> I'm trying to keep this machine as Libre as possible. I haven't added any more sources. I guess that I'll look into it.
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1707[13:54:55] <AkQ> replaced-url
1708[13:55:30] <AkQ> 70% of bots in bot nets are linux - never thought that would be possible but i guess linux isn't as safe as many people think it is
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1710[13:56:00] <aivkiv> Linux are safe. Stupid users with cheep VPS servers are THE risk.
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1712[13:56:16] <indistylo> While editing git repo file in Vim, I got this error: W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file ? How to fix this error:
1713[13:56:18] <indistylo> I tried "chattr +i /etc/puppet/puppet.conf"
1714[13:56:21] <indistylo> & also tried this mount -o remount,rw /
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1716[13:57:01] <nkuttler> indistylo: um, chmod +w it?
1717[13:57:20] <nkuttler> or, do it as root
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1719[13:58:06] <nkuttler> and, -i sounds kinda better, doesn't it?
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1723[14:00:23] <JustinHitla> Debian stable has a newer version of Perl than Gentoo testing, what is the world coming to ?
1724[14:00:37] <indistylo> nkuttler: i tried -i as well, not abel to edit the file
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1726[14:01:56] <appas> When trying to suspend with pm-suspend, I get the message "Freezing tasks failed, 1 task refused to freeze". How do I a) fix this, b) find out the offending task?
1727[14:02:06] <unborn> AkQ: what are you referring to with your question if I may ask?
1728[14:02:48] <indistylo> nkuttler: You can see this : pastebin.com/bnxX9bu2
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1733[14:04:16] <unborn> AkQ: im on #debian-offtopic if you would like to discuss some off topic stuff..
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1735[14:05:09] <unborn> aivkiv: nods you - you are right there :)
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1743[14:08:18] <unborn> JustinHitla: i did not get your question quiet right but perhaps - you do test it your self on whatever distro you are on or perhaps switch to debian for some time and see it for your own eyes if its worth ;)
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1749[14:13:16] <Johnny> Hey there
1750[14:13:18] <yardenbar> Hello, has anyone experienced with atop flooding /run ?
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1778[14:21:33] <rozie> /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries libnetfilter_conntrack.so.3 and libnetfilter_conntrack.so.3.3.0 in directory /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi have same soname but different type.
1779[14:21:36] <rozie> /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries libxapian.so.22.5.0 and libxapian.so.22.6.6 in directory /usr/lib have same soname but different type.
1780[14:21:40] <rozie> how to solve this?
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1786[14:23:46] <rozie> I guess I can just remove libnetfilter_conntrack.so.3.3.0 and libxapian.so.22.5.0
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1788[14:24:04] <rozie> files exist, but symlink is to newer versions
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1801[14:36:02] <Guest85903> Can anybody help me? Ive set the permissions wrong by mistake! Ive set it to a user group for /
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1816[14:40:47] <Stummi> Guest85903, just for /? Change it back then. chown root:root /
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1847[14:51:35] <unborn> Guest85903: for?
1848[14:51:50] <unborn> apache or ngix?
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1851[14:52:21] <unborn> Stummi: I think its for specific user
1852[14:52:23] <Guest85903> Sry i was afk for a sec.... I changed ir recursively :/
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1855[14:52:40] <Guest85903> I used: chown -R mc11:mc11 /*
1856[14:52:40] <unborn> Guest85903: for what user?
1857[14:52:49] <Guest85903> Multicraft
1858[14:52:51] <unborn> changed from what user?
1859[14:52:53] <unborn> ah
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1862[14:53:26] <unborn> sure.. I do not run muticraft things sorry.. google it out...
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1866[14:54:31] <Guest85903> Changed from user root ;(
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1868[14:54:51] <unborn> so change it back...
1869[14:55:02] <Stummi> Easiest thing would be to restore your data from backup
1870[14:55:05] <Guest85903> How?
1871[14:55:16] <Guest85903> Ah thats a good idea
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1873[14:55:56] <Stummi> since theres no easy fix if you chmod your whole FS
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1875[14:56:02] <Stummi> recursively
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1879[14:57:41] <Guest85903> I changed hte most persmissions to root and it seems to run... thanks god that I canceld before it change my mailserver...
1880[14:58:18] <Guest85903> For mysql I set the perms back to the mysql user
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1882[14:59:37] <sypher> Guest85903: No. Rebuild the system. There's no going back from what you did.
1883[14:59:38] <Akuw> if there is a running process but i can't find the log of that process what happen?
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1885[15:00:05] <Guest85903> How to rebuild the system?
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1888[15:00:25] <sypher> Guest85903: Reinstall the OS?
1889[15:00:35] <Guest85903> omg please not ;(
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1892[15:01:28] <sypher> Guest85903: Recursively chown-ing the entire tree? Yeah, you basically ruined the system.
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1899[15:02:49] <Guest85903> I found this: replaced-url
1900[15:03:15] <Guest85903> But I need a working Debian to create a "Backup" file
1901[15:03:32] <Akuw> A process identified by process id 2147 is running, but its logfile is nowhere to be found. The filesystem is ext3 and 100MB of space remains. We can assume nothing went wrong in process 2147. An lsof of process 2147 reveals that the log file is still open. a. What could have happened to make the log file disappear? b. Can you access the contents of the file? If so, how?
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1904[15:03:54] <Stummi> Guest85903, as said, just restore your last backup
1905[15:04:06] <Stummi> its easier than any hassle to "fix" what you did
1906[15:04:27] <Guest85903> I just backup single directorys
1907[15:04:55] <sypher> Guest85903: Then get to reinstalling. That's the only proper way to fix this.
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1911[15:06:12] <Guest85903> Shit... for that reason I hate Linux ;(
1912[15:06:33] <Akuw> is not linux problem
1913[15:06:36] <sypher> Guest85903: You hate Linux because you charged in and ran a command without doing any research on what you're doing and why?
1914[15:06:40] <Akuw> was you
1915[15:06:58] <Akuw> read manul first !!!
1916[15:07:04] <Akuw> *manual
1917[15:07:17] <Guest85903> It was a typo... i know what the command is doing but i didnt thought enough before
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1920[15:07:34] <Akuw> then was your fault
1921[15:07:41] <Guest85903> I know!
1922[15:07:54] <Akuw> is like you do rm -r /
1923[15:08:08] <sypher> Guest85903: Then why do you hate Linux for your screwup? Welcome to sysadmin 101: Know what the command does before you enter it.
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1925[15:08:25] <Akuw> i can not say I hate linux
1926[15:08:31] <Guest85903> I hate linux because a typo/single command can ruin everything
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1928[15:09:23] <Akuw> then in any software when press a button you can delet things too
1929[15:09:37] <Akuw> if you don't know how the things work
1930[15:09:44] <sypher> Guest85903: Yeah, that's not Linux's problem. You didn't check what you were typing AS ROOT before pressing enter.
1931[15:09:54] <Stummi> I think the wrong command in a windows CMD also can ruin a lot of things
1932[15:10:02] <sypher> Guest85903: Anyway, this is venturing into off-topic land. You have your task, get to it.
1933[15:10:06] <Akuw> remember always "root is powerfull"
1934[15:10:23] <Guest85903> To powerfull for me lol
1935[15:10:30] <Akuw> Stummi: right !!!
1936[15:10:41] <Guest85903> Ok thx guys...! Ill hang up myself bye!
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1938[15:10:52] <edoardo> Hahahahaha
1939[15:10:56] <edoardo> "Hang up myself"
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1971[15:22:23] <Lapis1> hi, what is the name of encryptig tool that works from gnome file manager and allows to encrypt\decrypt partition without enetering password? (password is stored somewhere in the system)
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1992[15:29:08] <Walex> Lapis1: that's a crazy question...
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1995[15:29:46] <Lapis1> Walex: why is it? i encrypted my partition with something and my system crashed and i dont remember with what or how to use it again =(
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1997[15:30:27] <Walex> Lapis1: ahhhh, you did express yourself badly.
1998[15:30:45] <Walex> Lapis1: that's a different question: your real problem is to access your data gain.
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2001[15:31:09] <Lapis1> yes, i want to restore the data. but i guess i need to know the tool name first
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2003[15:31:12] <Walex> Lapis1: the stasndard partition encryption scheme is LUKS
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2007[15:31:31] <Lapis1> but is there something that uses luks and gnome for password storage?
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2009[15:31:45] <Walex> Lapis1: it is usually activated from the command line, at boot, not from GNOME file manager
2010[15:32:00] <Walex> Lapis1: you are still expressing yourself badly.
2011[15:32:14] <Walex> Lapis1: there is no encryption scheme that does not require a password.
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2013[15:32:50] <Lapis1> okay
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2016[15:33:04] <Walex> Lapis1: what you may be describing is a scheme where the password called "key" is stored in a file and the file is not encrypted with a "passphrase"
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2018[15:33:07] <x-ip> hi all
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2022[15:33:46] <glcx> hi
2023[15:34:06] <Walex> Lapis1: the first thing you should do is to run the 'blkid' and 'disktype' commands from the CLI console as 'root', those will tell you in most cases what's stored in each partition.
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2026[15:34:52] <Walex> Lapis1: as to LUKS, it stores the encryption key on the disk itself, and it is usually encrypted with one (or up to 8) passphrases.
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2028[15:35:07] <Lapis1> hm, wait. i guess i made a mistake. if I can restore files with foremost then its not encryption, right? (its for undelete files)
2029[15:35:27] <Walex> Lapis1: you may have told LUKS to not encrypt the key, which is pointless
2030[15:35:43] <Walex> Lapis1: indeed, but I think you are confused.
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2032[15:35:49] <goiken> Any hints on debugging monitor-configurations? I was using two just fine until yesterday, when some game froze and forced me into a cold reboot. not the second monitor isn’t recognized any more. replaced-url
2033[15:35:53] <Walex> Lapis1: in the sense of unfamiliar.
2034[15:36:24] <Walex> Lapis1: there is another encryption scheme, eCryptFs, that encrypts not partitions but individual files
2035[15:36:31] <Walex> Lapis1: maybe you are using that.
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2038[15:37:08] <Walex> Lapis1: that might explain your impression that somehow GNOME file manager is involved.
2039[15:37:24] <Lapis1> Walex: no its a partition for sure. but i guess i just deleted files, and story with encryption is unrelated
2040[15:37:44] <Walex> Lapis1: check this anyhow: replaced-url
2041[15:38:04] <Walex> Lapis1: so use 'blkid' to be sure...
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2045[15:38:50] <rozie> goiken: did you unplug and plug againg?
2046[15:39:03] <goiken> rozie sure
2047[15:39:09] <rozie> I usually use arandr
2048[15:39:56] <rozie> but if xrandr does not recognize the second monitor, neither will arandr
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2050[15:41:52] <goiken> when I unplug and plug again, the monitor reacts briefly. I guess there is power on the plug, but no signal.
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2059[15:45:13] <jhutchins> goiken: What logs have you checked?
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2065[15:45:37] <goiken> jhutchins I looked at dmesg, but nothing else
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2079[15:49:20] <goiken> jhutchins xorg-log might be relevant: replaced-url
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2088[15:52:45] <goiken> here’s the full log replaced-url
2089[15:52:53] <Caterpillar> Hi, I just enabled https to securely access the website I am maintaining. Now I have been told by my boss to use mod_alias to redirect all http traffic to https. I am studying replaced-url
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2092[15:54:46] <goiken> Caterpillar here’s what I am using: replaced-url
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2094[15:55:16] <Caterpillar> goiken: putted in which file?
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2096[15:55:30] <goiken> Caterpillar .htaccess
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2105[15:56:33] <Caterpillar> goiken: I have 3 files: /var/replaced-url
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2108[15:56:58] <fernie> yes mod_rewrite is what I have always used for the task
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2111[15:58:16] <goiken> Caterpillar I use it in my website’s root-directory.
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2113[15:59:13] <Caterpillar> goiken: ok so which one between /var/replaced-url
2114[15:59:32] <Caterpillar> it should be /var/replaced-url
2115[15:59:38] <Caterpillar> as far I see from cat
2116[16:00:49] <goiken> Caterpillar not sure, if I understand your setup. Where’s the index.{html|php} that I would get when I request your domain?
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2118[16:03:02] <rozie> Caterpillar: just for https apache rewrite
2119[16:03:08] <rozie> Caterpillar: just google for https apache rewrite
2120[16:03:43] <Caterpillar> goiken: /var/replaced-url
2121[16:03:44] <Caterpillar> rozie: ok
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2125[16:04:11] <goiken> Caterpillar then I’d try /var/replaced-url
2126[16:04:12] <Caterpillar> rozie: I get the same results I am already reading
2127[16:04:12] <rozie> replaced-url
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2130[16:05:31] <rozie> also replaced-url
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2143[16:11:52] <Caterpillar> [16:05] <rozie> also replaced-url
2144[16:12:06] <Caterpillar> does not work, now I put on pastebin the affected file
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2147[16:13:36] <Caterpillar> rozie: replaced-url
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2227[16:47:17] <slbtc> sorry I had to go yesterday. is anyone here who was helping me last time?
2228[16:47:30] <slbtc> I'm still experiencing sound issues
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2232[16:49:25] <greycat> This is the part where you describe the issues, and what you've already tried that has not worked.
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2254[16:58:24] <Caterpillar> ok I solved!
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2256[16:58:47] <Caterpillar> I had to create the .htaccess file into website root and edit AllowOverride into apache.conf
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2264[17:01:43] <LAL> hello guys, Is there any separate channel for bug handling ?
2265[17:02:06] <johnkeates> no, but there are mailing lists and bug trackers and there's the report bug tool
2266[17:02:13] <Lapis1> could somebody help me with ecryptfs? my system collapsed but I still have all the files and encrypted partition where I cant take files untill I decrypt it. where should I look for a password for ecryptfs? i think it is stored somewhere in the system
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2272[17:05:16] <jhutchins> Lapis1: Let me make a wild guess: you do not have an unencrypted backup, right?
2273[17:05:44] <Lapis1> jhutchins: wow, you are a psychic ! =)
2274[17:05:46] <greycat> I am confoos. User wanted an encrypted disk so nobody can read it, and now he's trying to read it and can't because it's encrypted?
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2277[17:07:09] <sypher> Functions as designed.
2278[17:07:41] <Lapis1> greycat: yep. exactly =) i know how stupid it was, but i want my files back..
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2280[17:07:58] <jhutchins> See also: deleting files on ext.
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2283[17:08:39] <Lapis1> jhutchins: i think i did delete files from inside incrypted container =) so to restore them I need to decrypt it first
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2316[17:20:36] <unborn> Lapis1: sorry but what is exactly your issue ? - i do somehow missed your question here.. right Ive got is useless answer about nothing
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2320[17:21:14] <greycat> He has an encrypted disk that he claims is his, and he does not know the password to decrypt it, and now he wants to know the password.
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2322[17:21:24] <unborn> oh you did delete some encrypted stuff without backup and now you want them back.. right - we cannot help you with that?
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2324[17:21:41] <Lapis1> i do have the system that did run this ecryptfs and i think password is in the system somewhere
2325[17:21:50] <unborn> greycat: we - been here so many times..
2326[17:21:53] <zinx> Lapis1: assuming you encrypted it properly, the solution is to remember your password. there is no other solution.
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2328[17:22:13] <greycat> What makes you think the password is "in the system somewhere"?
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2330[17:22:27] <greycat> And why is it no longer working?
2331[17:22:38] <Lapis1> zinx: i did use gnome to store the password. there was 2 password, one is mine (short) and second is system´s, very long one, system did show it to me but I ignored it.
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2333[17:23:04] <zinx> Lapis1: does gnome no longer have the password?
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2335[17:23:40] <Lapis1> zinx i dont know where to look
2336[17:23:42] <zinx> Lapis1: it would have to be listed in fstab if it's mounted
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2338[17:23:45] <sypher> "but I ignored it"
2339[17:24:03] <Lapis1> sypher: it did work without knowing this long password =(
2340[17:24:15] <greycat> Why has it stopped working?
2341[17:24:21] <sypher> Until now. It's called recovery. Do you think it showed that to you for fun?
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2343[17:24:36] <Lapis1> i dont remember. i broke something in a system and reinstalled it on top. so programms dissapear but files are still there
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2345[17:24:50] <greycat> "And I don't know what I did."
2346[17:25:09] <Lapis1> well, i did reinstall the system =) thats what I remember
2347[17:25:29] <greycat> If you fully reinstalled the whole system, there is nothing left to recover.
2348[17:25:33] <Lapis1> i was playing with kernels and grub at that time. possibly that. its my very old system
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2350[17:25:34] <unborn> well.. :) i got your msg :) and I am glad it finally merged into this..
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2352[17:26:00] <Lapis1> greycat i didnt reinstall it with formatting. just ¨on top¨ so previous files are there too
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2356[17:26:16] <Lapis1> without formatting *
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2361[17:28:38] <awal1> slbtc, with your hdmi stuff plugged what output you get running "pacmd list-cards"?
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2370[17:33:10] <awal1> also aplay -l
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2380[17:38:37] <unborn> Lapis1: what are you asking?
2381[17:40:45] <unborn> greycat: Lapis1 are you asking that if you do thing a then all other things would be a-other-things? or - perhaps I do not understand - the thing is - if you install the package - it will do the thing you need - and that is end of the story..
2382[17:41:49] <unborn> Lapis1: regards the formatting - I think that is the issue of the package you are on about.. not an debian issue.
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2384[17:42:31] <unborn> ..perhaps I am wrong - can anyone tell me if I am wrong?>
2385[17:42:51] <greycat> I can't even guess what you're *saying*. It's so mangled that it no longer resembles human speech.
2386[17:43:21] <unborn> - thank you for warning..
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2388[17:44:35] <stardancer> <sypher> "but I ignored it"
2389[17:44:39] <stardancer> that cracked me up
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2392[17:44:55] <stardancer> when a sysadmin hears that, they want to punt you in the crotch
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2395[17:45:45] <unborn> stardancer: crotch is not enough - we are all sys...
2396[17:46:33] <paul0897> hello all
2397[17:46:45] <stardancer> we certainly are
2398[17:46:59] <stardancer> how many times do i have to tell you to do the thing i just told you to do?
2399[17:47:15] <stardancer> and why do you keep coming back to me with problems related to "i dont know the password"
2400[17:47:28] <stardancer> one of those day-in, day-out smdh things
2401[17:47:50] <unborn> stardancer: well if that was for me - you dont - I am free as we are all :)
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2403[17:48:09] <stardancer> they say they forget the passwords because we make them too complicated. but then they wonder why they got owned every time password1234 is the password
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2406[17:48:58] <unborn> im not great sysadmin any more.. im old and my moody mumbless no one like any more.. prehaps its good thing to go to sturbucs :)
2407[17:49:01] <stardancer> it's for buddy asking for help decrypting a disk that is supposedly his, seeing that "i ignored it" thing was just absolute hilarity
2408[17:49:26] <stardancer> i cant parse what youre saying about starbucks
2409[17:49:29] <stardancer> or much else
2410[17:50:07] <unborn> stardancer: listen I will gladly forgot password - im not your mum to tell you what it is :) and I will do turn my phone off in friday night - how great you feel about it :D
2411[17:50:20] <stardancer> ahhh yes, that's me too
2412[17:50:32] <stardancer> but that makes people in the office say "that person is a dickhead"
2413[17:50:46] <stardancer> the worst is when they think sysadmin means tech support
2414[17:50:54] <stardancer> and they hae a bunch of fucking apple computers
2415[17:51:04] <unborn> stardancer: im real - i do start it out there in monday - coz I would be glad to forgot - idiots who do not remember passwords :D
2416[17:51:32] <stardancer> even if you give them a 40 minute presentation on ways to come up with passwords
2417[17:51:36] <stardancer> theyll still be fucking idiots about it
2418[17:51:53] <stardancer> as for the encrypted disk, lolllllll
2419[17:52:03] <unborn> doing coffee and over the nights and weekends do some fair play hacks - for serious people - it sounds great to me stardancer :)
2420[17:52:16] <stardancer> if the password was somewhere in the system, that wouldnt be very smart now would it
2421[17:52:53] <stardancer> unborn, i think it honestly depends on the company you work for more than anything to do with the systems youre working with
2422[17:53:07] <stardancer> sysadmin has to expect to be a kind of customer service guru
2423[17:53:21] <unborn> stardancer: you have no idea who and what we do here - all you know is what you been told to read - I do not use disk whahabaha :) but yet - im somewhere else you are.. :)
2424[17:53:42] <stardancer> im not talking about you, jesus christ
2425[17:54:08] <stardancer> <Lapis1> sypher: it did work without knowing this long password =(
2426[17:54:27] <unborn> stardancer: i am here for my self - doing most for free.. for more than 9 years - yet most of the times I have back as good will mute - or ban - when I am tired of idiocy..
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2429[17:55:08] <unborn> nova days I do ask for to be muted - I do understand - its idiotic and pathetic but - see your self out there..
2430[17:55:10] <stardancer> bro
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2432[17:55:16] <stardancer> im not talking about you
2433[17:55:24] <stardancer> i can hardly make sense of your english
2434[17:55:33] <stardancer> im lost
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2436[17:55:56] <unborn> stardancer okay i had my minute of my tears out.. you know there is something like ignore right :) have good rest of the week
2437[17:56:11] * unborn sorry folks - had my own minute again..
2438[17:56:14] <stardancer> ESL is thatta way, buddy
2439[17:56:27] <stardancer> "i had my minute of my tears out"
2440[17:56:36] <stardancer> that's like poetry, i dont understand it at all
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2445[17:57:25] <unborn> stardancer: be star - if you one of us sysadmins - support others with debian related issues. end of the story :) just do it.
2446[17:57:45] <unborn> {code is poetry!}
2447[17:57:57] <greycat> We can't support the guy who lost his password to his encrytped whatever-the-hell-disk-file-partition-he-didn't-say. There is nothing we can do.
2448[17:58:08] <stardancer> and even if we COULD
2449[17:58:15] <stardancer> it would be amazingly dumb and unethical
2450[17:58:28] <stardancer> hi, i'll help you break into that guy's house while we're at it
2451[17:58:44] <greycat> 11:21 greycat> He has an encrypted disk that he claims is his [...]
2452[17:58:51] <stardancer> sysadmins support the people on their networks
2453[17:59:10] <stardancer> or systems
2454[17:59:20] <stardancer> usually ends up being networks :(
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2456[17:59:38] * unborn thanks folks for having me
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2459[17:59:48] <stardancer> i have a pink stress ball that im going to chuck at someone
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2469[18:02:50] <goiken> Reiterating an earlier Question on monitor-config’s: I was using two just fine until yesterday, when some game froze and forced me into a cold reboot. Now the second monitor isn’t recognized any more. Here’s some possibly relevant output replaced-url
2470[18:03:08] <greycat> Woo! My irssi de-curler script worked!
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2474[18:04:41] <alchemista> hola a todos
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2495[18:09:28] <stoned> Is there a hw list of blue tooth speakers that work in linux bt driver stack with compatible drivers etc
2496[18:09:29] <stoned> ?
2497[18:09:38] <stoned> I need a speaker whose tooth is blue
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2499[18:10:24] <stoned> greycat: I switched to weechat.
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2501[18:10:33] <stoned> greycat: irssi is a bit primitive.
2502[18:10:41] <greycat> So am I.
2503[18:10:47] <stoned> :)
2504[18:11:12] <stoned> What happened to simonrvn?
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2506[18:11:24] <stoned> Is he still about? I would like to speak with him, if you know.
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2508[18:11:37] <stoned> It's been almost 7 years now.
2509[18:11:41] <greycat> He shows up sometimes. Not as often as he used to.
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2511[18:11:58] <stoned> Oh then I can still memo him. Fantastic
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2515[18:14:06] <unborn> that is just ulgy to open source...
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2523[18:15:49] <teraflops> unborn: thewat is just ugly?
2524[18:16:25] <unborn> teraflops: I thing you do read my msg correctly.
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2526[18:16:46] <unborn> - if not im sorry.
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2542[18:20:25] <unborn> teraflops: oh sorry then.. well it was just my mind speaking out there a loud - i thing you got your bouncer if not - then perhaps i said it as I did feel it. sorry.
2543[18:20:49] <teraflops> ah, np
2544[18:20:51] <greycat> I still don't know which thing unborn is calling "ugly to open source".
2545[18:20:56] <unborn> basically - sorry I said it.
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2549[18:21:40] <stardancer> i feel like this is some kind of language comprehension troll
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2553[18:22:38] <unborn> stardancer: of course.. im sorry to make you feel like that - how can I or we could help you with your debian issue??
2554[18:22:39] <teraflops> stardancer: oh stop using the troll word randomly it's annoying
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2559[18:24:11] <awal1> goiken, your second monitor is detected durring boot and not in X or not detected at all?
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2562[18:25:08] <unborn> stardancer: just ask..
2563[18:25:16] <zino> hello, can sombody help me with my ath5k probleme (when the syste
2564[18:25:43] <goiken> awal1 how can I tell?
2565[18:25:52] <unborn> zino: you need the driver for your wifi? are you on jessie? can you confirm that?
2566[18:26:00] <awal1> goiken, how you can tell?
2567[18:26:05] <zino> system start and i log in no wifi can be detected until i do (rmmmod ath5k and press switch button then modprob ath5k)
2568[18:26:29] <teraflops> zino: press switch button?
2569[18:26:43] <goiken> I suppose it’s not detected at any stage… but it might still be in a nonobvious way.
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2571[18:26:53] <greycat> And the ellipsis too! Yay!
2572[18:27:17] <teraflops> it's a kind of hw button for the wifi?
2573[18:27:20] <awal1> goiken, well, if detected at boot time you see some boot messages in both monitors (primary and extra one)
2574[18:27:56] <zino> jessie, i have a compaq cq60 with a wifi switch button on top (push button)
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2577[18:28:06] <goiken> awal1 well I don’t (and never did, even back when it was working. only had boot messages on one monitor)
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2580[18:29:03] <awal1> goiken, if you switch to Console (ttyX) do you see any output in the second monitor? (if detected, you should get same output in both)
2581[18:29:18] <teraflops> zino: next time try `rfkill list` before doing the rmmod thing
2582[18:29:32] <goiken> awal1 nope
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2586[18:29:54] <unborn> zino: that should work after you installed nonfree drivers - then just reboot and then fn+ fnumber for your wifi.. and wifi should get up :)
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2588[18:30:33] <awal1> goiken, it's easy to manage extra monitors in X, but if not detected at all (not detected at boot time), so sorry, I don't know what to tell you...
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2590[18:30:52] <unborn> can you paste your lspci somewhere?
2591[18:30:56] <unborn> zino ^^^
2592[18:31:03] <jhutchins> !ath5k
2593[18:31:03] <dpkg> ath5k is a completely free (no proprietary HAL) Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCIe 802.11a/bg wireless LAN devices with Atheros chips. It does not require firmware from userspace. See replaced-url
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2595[18:31:13] <zino> teraflops: in the rfkill i get hard blocked, so when i do the trick (sw on>off ath5k) i get hard block off
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2597[18:31:27] <teraflops> zino: yeah
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2599[18:31:51] <jhutchins> zino: I would check the BIOS and see if there's anything that refers to the wifi being off at boot.
2600[18:31:55] <awal1> goiken, which DE/WM you run?
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2602[18:32:13] <goiken> awal1 what?
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2604[18:32:25] <teraflops> zino: also do you do dual boot with widows there?
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2607[18:32:37] <unborn> zino yeah that is right - teraflops just told you how to unlock it.. but I am afraid you still have to reboot to see the effect :/
2608[18:32:44] <goiken> awal1 ahh… mate
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2610[18:33:08] <goiken> awal1 MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.1, to be precise.
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2612[18:33:33] * greycat waits eagerly to see what other UTF-8 crap will be spewed in my direction, to see if I need to make any more adjustments to my script
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2614[18:33:56] <teraflops> zino: you can unblock with rfkill too, but I'm curious about the dual booting question I did
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2617[18:34:24] <unborn> greycat: we - i mean some of us dont even know :) so be prepared for a - fart ;)
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2619[18:35:06] <awal1> goiken, can you paste the output of xrandr ? just xrandr, no option/arguments... (paste.debian.net)
2620[18:35:08] <zino> sorry
2621[18:35:19] <teraflops> greycat: are you in tty or Xorg?
2622[18:35:23] <teraflops> greycat: nvm 🐈 😺 😸 😹 😻 😼 😽 🙀 😿 😾 🐱 🐈
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2624[18:35:41] <goiken> awal1 it’s included in the paste above replaced-url
2625[18:35:45] <teraflops> zino: why sorry?
2626[18:35:58] <greycat> teraflops: I am in irssi in rxvt in HP-UX 10.20, pure Latin-1, not Win1252, *definitely* not UTF-8.
2627[18:35:59] <goiken> awal1 third… sorry.
2628[18:36:11] <zino> jhutchins: i have remarqed that after shuting down the pc and starting windows i get my card dissabled
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2630[18:36:13] <teraflops> greycat: holly cow
2631[18:36:14] <unborn> teraflops: he would be fine just to the point he will disable wifi on windows - the thing is due to wifi reads - and drivers how they behave - if he disable this in windows he would be off in linux.
2632[18:36:17] <teraflops> holy*
2633[18:36:19] <greycat> teraflops: add "in screen", forgot that part.
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2637[18:37:15] <zino> teraflops: after using the dual boot i have to reactivate my card on windows
2638[18:37:36] <teraflops> zino: you get the card blocked because you do dual boot, also it looks like you answer the questions to the wrong nick :P
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2640[18:38:12] <teraflops> zino: yeah that's why I asked because it is a common issue
2641[18:38:20] <unborn> greycat: you seems to like foopas last time here :) if you would like us to debug - just say so - we would be happy to provide some feedback ;)
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2643[18:38:39] <awal1> goiken, as second monitor you was refering to your hdmi or dvi ?
2644[18:38:49] <goiken> awal1 hdmi
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2651[18:40:11] <teraflops> greycat: can yo do the decode encode magic per buffer or just by default in irssi?
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2653[18:40:36] <greycat> You mean per channel? Or what do you mean by buffer?
2654[18:40:48] <unborn> teraflops: since its all depend on terminal - you should be able to :)
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2658[18:41:17] <teraflops> greycat: buffer i guess channel is the same
2659[18:41:27] <unborn> greycat: he means possibly per chan but - lets be realistic - anywhere :)
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2662[18:41:37] <teraflops> #debian in a buffer for me
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2664[18:41:45] <zino> does a solution exist, to fix that card stat on starting (nothing in the bios about wifi card)
2665[18:41:47] <greycat> teraflops: the internal recoding is global (all channels), but you can write perl scripts to do things.
2666[18:41:51] <teraflops> is* sorry
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2668[18:42:03] <unborn> yay :D
2669[18:42:07] <teraflops> greycat: oh weechat can do it per buffer too
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2671[18:42:44] * unborn - does not understand the weeT-chat
2672[18:43:05] <teraflops> greycat: as in /charset whatever in the buffer e.g here in #debian
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2674[18:43:16] <unborn> but feel free to install hexachat ;)
2675[18:43:35] <awal1> goiken, just trying a basic stuff . try executing xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto --right-of VGA-0 --output VGA-0 --auto --rate 60.00
2676[18:43:37] <teraflops> heh hexachat is a chat⁶
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2678[18:43:51] * greycat goes to look up what 2076 is
2679[18:43:51] <unborn> yeah.. just install that and stop asking ;)
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2681[18:44:30] <greycat> "superscript six"? Ugh... I suppose there are 9 more of them too?
2682[18:44:39] <unborn> or go with irssi.. and stop asking at all..
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2685[18:45:10] <goiken> awal1 no reaction or output.
2686[18:45:26] <zino> to All: ok that will train me taping on keybord faster for a [while True] (loop). thx 4 all, bye.
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2688[18:45:44] <awal1> goiken, nothing changes when you play with configs in mate system settings-display?
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2690[18:46:20] <unborn> goiken: heh its been a while does awail1 give valuable output to your questions? I did put hat user to ignore list in while ago...
2691[18:46:22] <goiken> awal1 I don’t see the second monitor there, so not really. I can play with the resolution of the working one, though.
2692[18:46:26] <greycat> I don't think I will gain much by hard-coding u2076 et al in my script... will just ignore for now.
2693[18:46:37] <teraflops> hmm theres no rfkill-unblock unit file in jessie?
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2695[18:47:09] <unborn> teraflops: it should not be.. it ubuntu thingy..
2696[18:47:19] <awal1> goiken, the problem I think is find out why your second monitor isn't detected at all since boot
2697[18:47:22] <teraflops> unborn: not only ubuntu
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2699[18:47:33] <goiken> unborn y… some suggestions which I assume are in good faith, but nothing that’s working until now.
2700[18:48:07] <stoned> To assume that xrandr is enabled by default is silly
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2702[18:48:28] <stoned> Because I hate Xrandr
2703[18:48:37] <teraflops> it's handy, as in zino situation, I wonder if a pre-up line with the rfkill unblock all on /e/n/i wouls work too
2704[18:48:39] <stoned> Why you ask? Well, because it doesn't work with Xinerama.
2705[18:48:41] <goiken> awal1 how?
2706[18:48:44] <unborn> teraflops: i did not say its only the ubuntu thingy but - most of then comes here for it.. and most of the times it does not work
2707[18:48:46] <teraflops> would*
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2709[18:48:54] <stoned> I have 6 monitors across 3 gpus
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2711[18:48:59] <stoned> Xrandr is fail.
2712[18:49:33] <stoned> The only way to stitch together 3 gpu is xinerama. xrandr only handles the primary gpu.
2713[18:49:40] <stoned> the other two don't even show up
2714[18:49:46] <stoned> anyway. *brb*
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2716[18:49:48] <teraflops> xinerama … good luck
2717[18:49:56] <unborn> goiken: i put that user on ignore for some reason and so far you do improved my decision :) its all good.
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2719[18:50:18] <awal1> unborn, again with me?
2720[18:50:19] <awal1> omg
2721[18:50:25] <teraflops> if you like slow as hell and slowmotion-like it'd be fine :S
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2730[18:52:41] <slbtc> my sound is still refusing to work all I'm trying to do is get my headphones to work with sound.
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2732[18:52:54] <unborn> teraflops: he indeed make things more difficult then shorter in a time :) so fuck *im.
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2734[18:53:10] <missmbob> c'mon. enough
2735[18:53:28] <unborn> missmbob: thanks :)
2736[18:53:40] <teraflops> unborn: I was talking about xinerama ^
2737[18:53:42] <awal1> goiken, I dont know how to debug such thing (monitor not detected at boot time)
2738[18:53:44] <teraflops> heh
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2741[18:54:19] <unborn> yeah I named you in wrong way - you know what I mean. im sorry about that
2742[18:54:53] <awal1> maybe the gyu suffering solitude/lonesomeness, living in the woods with rabbits may help
2743[18:55:16] <unborn> any - one = since I cannot found the origin user = he indeed make things more difficult then shorter in a time :) so fuck *im.
2744[18:55:45] <goiken> awal1 well, thx for trying though
2745[18:56:01] <awal1> goike, np
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2758[19:01:26] <unborn> awall1 - how long it will take you to realize that you barging on wrong part of tree. how long? - if you do use google then - I feel you...
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2760[19:01:52] <unborn> im going to tmp remove you from ignore.. just moment
2761[19:01:58] <awal1> unborn vs markybob :D
2762[19:02:21] <unborn> I can read you :)
2763[19:03:20] <unborn> - I am an alone here - sysadmins where are you gone?
2764[19:03:34] <TomTomTo1> are you having your daily mental breakdown again?
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2766[19:03:40] <missmbob> TomTomTo1: yes
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2775[19:09:29] <unborn> TomTomTo1: i was about to write you long bollox message - nah I am completely okay - that message was for me right?
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2777[19:09:42] <unborn> well if that makes you happy do it for last time.
2778[19:09:51] <unborn> I will be gone.
2779[19:10:27] <unborn> menthal issue? TomTomTo1 im in eu.. not usa.. - wake up.
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2781[19:10:53] <unborn> exit
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2783[19:11:57] <unborn> yay.. well TomTomTo1 you know what - I am debiam amater - and as anyone else we need help - I am hoping so you and your pro - whatever you calling will help me..
2784[19:12:27] <unborn> greycat: - can you mute me for 72 hours please?
2785[19:12:33] <unborn> thanks
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2808[19:21:39] <jmss> Hi, which package contains the kernel? I can't find any package with dpkg -l with "linux" or "kernel" in the name.
2809[19:22:17] <greycat> Are you on a VPS?
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2811[19:22:38] <jmss> greycat: me?
2812[19:22:41] <greycat> You.
2813[19:22:46] <TomTomTo1> jmss: dpkg -l linux-image*
2814[19:22:52] <jmss> what is a VPS?
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2816[19:23:05] <greycat> uname -a would also be helpful at this point
2817[19:23:29] <jmss> TomTomTo1: no occurrences
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2819[19:24:07] <jmss> greycat: Linux lime 3.4.90+ #3 PREEMPT Tue Jun 10 09:17:04 EEST 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
2820[19:24:15] <awal1> jmss, dpkg -l | grep linux-image*
2821[19:24:34] <greycat> You aren't using a Debian kernel.
2822[19:24:35] <jmss> awal1: empty result
2823[19:25:12] <jmss> I was dist-upgrading but got a conflict between udev/kernel
2824[19:25:13] <greycat> It *might* be some kind of VPS with which I'm not familiar (it's not OpenVZ), which would explain why you are not using a Debian kernel and do not have any kernel images installed.
2825[19:25:15] <jmss> -f does not solve
2826[19:25:40] <jmss> it's on an ARM single-board computer, if it matters
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2829[19:26:18] <jmss> greycat: it's not virtual, it's in a board
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2835[19:27:03] <jmss> is it possible that the conflict removed the kernel package?
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2837[19:27:10] <greycat> Of course another possible reason is that you're simply not running Debian.
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2839[19:27:19] <TomTomTo1> so it's an image that you got from their website. most boards use a modified kernel.
2840[19:27:30] <jmss> greycat: # cat /etc/issue
2841[19:27:30] <jmss> Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
2842[19:27:49] <jmss> TomTomTo1: yes, from Olimex
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2845[19:28:44] <jmss> what is the name of the process of the kernel? init?
2846[19:28:54] <greycat> It's not a process.
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2848[19:29:04] <greycat> Look for images in /boot or in /
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2854[19:30:08] <jmss> a bin boot Desktop dev etc home leds-sunxi ledtrig-heartbeat lib lost+found media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var
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2856[19:30:27] <jmss> the /boot is empty
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2861[19:30:50] <Fahrradkette> greetings everybody
2862[19:31:22] <TomTomTo1> hmm.. that one uses uboot.
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2871[19:32:40] <jmss> TomTomTo1: yes, I think so
2872[19:32:43] <Fahrradkette> I'm trying to get a pyhton3 version odfpy on my jessie installation. Since the jessie packet only contains python2 I wanted to get it using pip
2873[19:32:54] <Fahrradkette> but there is no pip3, is that correct?
2874[19:32:56] <cableninja> hey guys, I'm having problems getting a system to auth via AD. I was able to get 2 others done, but this one is not working. I followed this guide replaced-url
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2878[19:33:42] <missmbob> Fahrradkette: pip3 is in python3-pip
2879[19:33:53] <Fahrradkette> missmbob: thank you very much:)
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2882[19:34:08] <TomTomTo1> jmss: looks like they use the 3.4 kernel with all their releases, so you will have to stick with it. it's not official debian that you are running.
2883[19:34:40] <jmss> TomTomTo1: so it means I should not run dist-upgrade, right?
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2886[19:35:48] <TomTomTo1> jmss: you are trying to switch to testing/unstable?
2887[19:36:06] <jmss> TomTomTo1: no, just trying a normal update
2888[19:36:46] <jmss> I wish to stay on stable
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2891[19:37:14] <TomTomTo1> jmss: should be fine.
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2894[19:37:53] <jmss> let me paste in a site the result of dist-upgrade
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2902[19:41:53] <nickench1> hello debianonians
2903[19:42:23] <TomTomTo1> onions?
2904[19:42:37] <nickench1> or whatever
2905[19:42:41] <TomTomTo1> :)
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2908[19:45:36] <TomTomTo1> jmss: the usual way to upgrade debian stable is apt get update; apt-get upgrade; dependencies rarely change for dist-upgrade to be needed.
2909[19:46:05] <jmss> replaced-url
2910[19:46:20] <jmss> TomTomTo1: ok, i'll try upgrade now
2911[19:46:58] <TomTomTo1> oh, you went through with it D:
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2920[19:48:27] <missmbob> i hope you have a backup.
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2922[19:49:27] <missmbob> hard to believe a simple in-release upgrade would give you so many new packages to be installed (not upgraded)
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2924[19:49:50] <jmss> TomTomTo1: upgrade also shows the udev error
2925[19:50:23] <jmss> missmbob: this is a testing board, no need for backup
2926[19:50:35] <greycat> Put the touchy ones on hold, then.
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2928[19:50:39] <greycat> !hold
2929[19:50:39] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>.
2930[19:50:43] <TomTomTo1> jmss: they have a newer image on their site that you might want to try.
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2932[19:50:50] <jmss> I think I successfully did an upgrade some weeks ago
2933[19:51:23] <jmss> TomTomTo1: let me check
2934[19:51:37] <TomTomTo1> "kernel 3.4.103+"
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2937[19:52:35] <TomTomTo1> it looks like they changed more than only the bootloader and kernel.
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2942[19:53:22] <jmss> I think I'm using the latest one: a10_Lime_debian_3.4.90_release_3.img
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2944[19:53:48] <TomTomTo1> replaced-url
2945[19:53:56] <jmss> it has to be one for this specific board, because of the hardware
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2948[19:54:50] <jmss> what is strange for me is that upgrade or dist-upgrade are not self-consistent
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2952[19:55:32] <greycat> You're using a Debian Derivative. It may not have a name. It may not INDICATE that it is a derivative. But it is. That's why nothing is working.
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2955[19:57:34] <jmss> greycat: OK, maybe they didn't predict that udev could change and become incompatible with the kernel
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2957[19:57:50] <greycat> Maybe they didn't care.
2958[19:57:53] <jmss> :)
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2960[19:58:20] <jmss> thanks for the hints
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2972[20:02:19] <CtrlC> What is exactly the type of ssh keys? Symmetric key? Public key?
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2974[20:02:31] <greycat> Asymmetric public/private key pairs.
2975[20:02:44] <greycat> There are several distinct types. The default type is RSA.
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2980[20:03:27] <CtrlC> so it is public type. Thanks.
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3001[20:09:42] <shellclear> hi fellows, does someone know what gonna happend if I build a raid1 device with three disks?
3002[20:09:57] <greycat> You have a 3-disk RAID1 set. Two redundancy disks.
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3007[20:10:58] <shellclear> greycat: will blocks to be writen at the same time in all disks?
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3009[20:11:03] <greycat> yes
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3011[20:11:36] <shellclear> and if do I add a fourth disk?
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3013[20:11:54] <greycat> Then we'll wonder why you're wasting your disks.
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3015[20:12:16] <greycat> But hey, if you want to use 4 disks to hold 1 disk worth of data with 3 fully redundant copies, that's your business.
3016[20:12:16] <shellclear> hahahah
3017[20:12:43] <rhizome> so many hotspares. bounty!
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3019[20:13:13] <shellclear> i'm study raid devices. so, this it's a question that I have
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3024[20:13:57] <missmbob> honestly wikipedia's raid page is pretty good for thatreplaced-url
3025[20:13:59] <greycat> Usually if you have 4 disks to devote to a single RAID set, you use RAID5 or something along those lines.
3026[20:14:03] <rhizome> /r/datahoarder though they're often zfs acolytes
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3028[20:14:18] <shellclear> because all docs say the same thing... raid1 it's a mirror device but they don't talk about raid1 with three or more devices...
3029[20:14:28] <greycat> Because nobody does that.
3030[20:14:37] <missmbob> shellclear: that's because it's dumb. you do raid 5
3031[20:14:38] <rhizome> because raid 1 is a two-node technology
3032[20:14:41] <cableninja> anyone had any experience setting up AD auth using this guide? replaced-url
3033[20:14:46] <greycat> If you have a 3-disk RAID5 set, then you hold 2 disks worth of data with 1 redundant disk.
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3035[20:15:13] <shaleh> I am trying to do a preseed automated install. The preseed is to be retrieved over http. When I boot the system I am still getting a menu. How do i verify the file was downloaded? I looked in syslog and there is no error but no confirmation either.
3036[20:15:32] <shaleh> the installer docs online do not talk much about debugging failures
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3040[20:16:41] <shellclear> ok guys... but I think my question is over. :D if I have three disks the block will be replicated to all disks
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3042[20:16:53] <greycat> In RAID1. Yes.
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3045[20:17:17] <shellclear> greycat: Thanks!!
3046[20:17:39] <Sayona> Hi, is any solution to use domainx.hopto.org insted of ip in iptables to allow using mysql remotly?
3047[20:17:50] <shellclear> cableninja: missmbob
3048[20:17:55] <shellclear> that to you
3049[20:17:56] <Rambler44> So, my device crashed and unlucky for me the drive got corrputed and I received a bunch of kernel errors trying to boot (unable to access computer even directly). But I decided to just reinstall the OS as I found it easier than trying to find out if I had lost any crucial files.
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3051[20:17:58] <shellclear> thanks
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3053[20:18:17] <Rambler44> Thing is, I need updated nginx and a few other things since some modules are only available in the newer versions for example h2
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3055[20:18:30] <Rambler44> So I have a chroot install of stretch
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3057[20:19:22] <Rambler44> I have no idea ifmy bind mounts there or the unecessary use of chroot is a layer I should get rid of, but if I try to install stretch packaged on jessie I'd get horrible dependency issues right?
3058[20:19:43] <CQ> hello, if I want to raid an entire system (new installation), do I need a non-raided boot partition? I would assume so, right?
3059[20:19:46] <greycat> Rambler44: right.
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3062[20:20:09] <Rambler44> So the most logical option would be to setup another chroot?
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3064[20:20:13] <Rambler44> I am aware something other exists now
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3066[20:20:26] <Rambler44> systemd-nspawn?
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3073[20:21:16] <Rambler44> It might be it would just add more overhead as the only thing necessary is the few packages running in the chroot
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3077[20:22:52] <teraflops> Rambler44: yep
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3098[20:28:31] <Sayona> Hi, i need a solution for my backup plan. I have 1 vps and 1 linux at home. At home don't have ip static. And I want to use mysqldump from linux to backup db ...
3099[20:28:53] <greycat> Initiate the backup *from* the home computer, since it's dynamic.
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3101[20:29:02] <Sayona> but becouse I don't have ip static connot access mysql of vps.
3102[20:29:07] <Rambler44> so /sys /dev /dev/pts (or just /dev?) /proc should be sufficiend to bind to my chroot environment?
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3104[20:29:20] <Sayona> yes but i NEED TO add the ip to allow access to mysql
3105[20:29:20] <greycat> Sayona: The VPS doesn't have a static address?
3106[20:29:24] <teraflops> Rambler44: you can use it for clean chroots (for building packages) or for doing containers which you manage via machinectl
3107[20:29:26] <Sayona> yes have
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3109[20:29:39] <greycat> Sayona: Oh. Mysql bullshit. No you don't. Just use an SSH tunnel.
3110[20:29:47] <Rambler44> Ah, I see, so those containers are mostly used for building packages
3111[20:29:51] <Sayona> ssh tunnel ?
3112[20:29:57] <Rambler44> But chroots are more constant running which I'm planning to do
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3114[20:30:21] <greycat> Or more realistically, do a mysqldump (or whatever it is) on the server and then back THAT up.
3115[20:30:21] <missmbob> are you backing up the home computer or the VPS?
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3121[20:31:35] <Sayona> missmbob, the vps to computer
3122[20:31:45] <Sayona> but I want to use mysqldump from computer
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3124[20:32:01] <teraflops> Rambler44: not really, you can run applications there
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3131[20:32:19] <teraflops> Rambler44: and do login power on poweroff etc
3132[20:32:28] <missmbob> Sayona: i've never known a VPS without a backup option. the provider really doesn't do it?
3133[20:32:30] <cableninja> Sayona, ssh $vps 'mysqldump {mysqldump commands/options}' > mysql.out
3134[20:32:32] <cableninja> ^ best bet
3135[20:32:34] <greycat> Sayona: replaced-url
3136[20:32:42] <greycat> Or what cableninja said.
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3139[20:33:04] <Rambler44> teraflops, but it would add more of an overhead then using a regular chroot environment? That's what I care about most, what's more light
3140[20:33:08] <Sayona> let see
3141[20:33:25] <teraflops> Rambler44: it's the same at the end, so whatever floats your goat
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3146[20:35:03] <Rambler44> If it could somehow automatically bind my automounts without me having to manually bind them or edit the fstab both in host and container it would be better
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3160[20:40:55] <jhutchins> Sayona: You could also write a script to do the backup and trigger it via ssh.
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3164[20:41:18] <jhutchins> Sayona: You can also set up dynamic DNS for your home system and use a hostname.
3165[20:41:23] <Sayona> i want a get not put
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3167[20:41:46] <Sayona> i have cpanel and i add allowed to mysql the free dns ...
3168[20:41:47] <Sayona> but not work
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3170[20:42:06] <greycat> Pretend you do not have cpanel. NOW think.
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3172[20:42:58] <Sayona> iptalbles
3173[20:43:04] <greycat> For god's sake, NO!
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3177[20:44:18] <Rambler44> cPanel, hmm, that brand is at least for me associated with oversold servers
3178[20:44:28] <Rambler44> s/oversold/overprovisioned
3179[20:44:50] <Rambler44> ;)
3180[20:44:59] <Sayona> :(
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3182[20:45:25] <greycat> Just ignore the cpanel crap entirely. You have ssh. Therefore you can retrieve any data you want from the server onto your client.
3183[20:45:51] <Sayona> wow I think I solve
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3185[20:46:03] <greycat> At that point it becomes a question of making it simple, elegant, efficient, and still secure.
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3187[20:46:23] <Sayona> stdin: is not a tty
3188[20:46:27] <Sayona> using ssh
3189[20:46:30] <greycat> ssh -t
3190[20:46:43] <Rambler44> I remember how I once was met with this cPanel installation where root had password login enabled and it had a pretty small password
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3194[20:47:45] <Rambler44> I was shocked at how poor security it had without getting compromised
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3197[20:48:15] <teraflops> Rambler44: imho cpanel is just useless crap
3198[20:48:25] <Rambler44> with that said, is the default webserver choice on cPanel apache traffic server?
3199[20:48:36] <Rambler44> I don't see why they don't officially support nginx
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3203[20:50:21] <Sayona> strange
3204[20:50:29] <Sayona> he reacte me a .gz but is 4kb
3205[20:50:39] <Sayona> s/reacte/create
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3207[20:51:40] <jhutchins> Sayona: Were you thinking it should be bigger?
3208[20:51:52] <Sayona> yes 400+ mb
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3211[20:52:48] <Rambler44> Compressed my 1320MB Debian RAW copy of fs into 200MB using ultra compression before
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3216[20:54:14] <Sayona> ssh -p 2111 -t root@srv.uxxx "mysqldump -u mkrxxg -pnqxx8 | gzip -3 -c" > /root/bb_`date +\%Y-\%m-\%d-\%S`.sql.gz
3217[20:54:21] <Sayona> where I wrong?
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3224[20:57:40] <jhutchins> Sayona: so do the dump directly to a text file instead of piping to gzip, or have it dump to console.
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3227[20:58:16] <Sayona> jhutchins, can you complete in the command please?
3228[20:58:22] <greycat> I'd *strongly* consider keeping the uncompressed mysqldump file on the server if at all possible so that you can rsync it down to the client.
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3230[20:58:52] <greycat> Unless your database changes radically, quickly, you should get a huge savings for the unchanged parts of the dump.
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3232[20:59:36] <Sayona> I use rsync for files
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3234[20:59:48] <Sayona> but for db... i need to use mysqldump in desktop
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3236[21:00:09] <greycat> Why do you think you have to use the desktop (client) implementation of mysqldump instead of the server's one?
3237[21:00:21] <Sayona> to be remotly
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3245[21:03:43] <Sayona> what is the solution?
3246[21:03:50] <Rambler44> as I have defualts enabled, how would I go about tune2fs to disable data=writeback,journal_data_writeback from defaults? I am thinking of how to proof this sytem of power cuts as it caused some rather horrible damage last time
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3250[21:04:48] <Rambler44> As setting data=writeback I assume is not part of defaults, maybe I am thinking of disabling journaling or am I out of my mind?
3251[21:04:48] <`Kevin> mysqldump sigh :|
3252[21:05:31] <Rambler44> I already replaced my performance settings to the sync option
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3264[21:10:12] <foul_owl> How do I regenerate /etc/resolv.conf? I have Debian running in a vm. I can resolve without issue. Then, on the host, I connect to a VPN. I can no longer resolve on the guest, but I can on the host. Restarting networking on the guest doesn't solve the issue, but restarting the guest entirely does solve the issue. However, I would rather not have to restart my operating system entirely every time I change VPNs
3265[21:10:14] <foul_owl> on the host. I can connect to an IP directly from the guest also, so I know it's a DNS issue. I think I just need to regenerate /etc/resolv.conf once I connect to the VPN, but not sure how to do that. NetworkManager seems to be running by default. Thanks!
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3268[21:11:32] <greycat> It gets clobbered every time dhcp-client refreshes its lease, in a default DHCP configuration.
3269[21:11:34] <lattera2> I installed Debian 8 on my 2015 MacBook Pro, when I connect a second monitor the main monitor (the laptop display) goes black
3270[21:11:41] <lattera2> anyone know what I should do to fix that?
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3276[21:13:49] <foul_owl> Ah, so I need to run dhcp-client?
3277[21:13:53] <foul_owl> Run that manually?
3278[21:14:00] <rattking> lattera2: does that one have the hybrid graphics?
3279[21:14:17] <greycat> No, but *IF* you are running it, which you typically are, that's what changes the content of resolv.conf. All the time. Especially when you don't want it to.
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3281[21:14:37] <lattera2> rattking: not sure, but I'm using the intel driver
3282[21:14:43] <foul_owl> Hmmm
3283[21:14:44] <lattera2> how do I tell if it has hybrid graphics?
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3285[21:14:46] <greycat> If you aren't running a DHCP client then just edit resolv.conf by hand, once, and voila. Done.
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3289[21:15:00] <foul_owl> I don't know what the nameservers are supposed to be on my vpn though
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3291[21:15:09] <greycat> Then run your own.
3292[21:15:10] <tamarin> Any hints for DHCP? I have "auto wlan0" and "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" but when I ifdown/up or reboot I don't get an ipv4 address.
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3294[21:15:19] <foul_owl> Hmmm
3295[21:15:29] <tamarin> dhclient wlan0 works as expected, though.
3296[21:15:34] <greycat> Or use google's public nameserver if you want google to know who you're looking up.
3297[21:15:48] <rattking> I ask because I have seen that behaviour before, where the external displayport / hdmi or whatever only works with 1 of the 2 video cards
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3300[21:16:12] <foul_owl> Ahh ok running dhclient eth0 did the trick
3301[21:16:14] <foul_owl> Thanks!
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3306[21:17:43] <lattera2> rattking: gotcha, looks like this one may use hybrid graphics
3307[21:17:57] <tamarin> Is there anything special in Jessie that would stop dhcpclient from running on an interface set to dhcp?
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3310[21:18:06] <lattera2> intel and amd
3311[21:18:31] <greycat> tamarin: I would review journalctl output (as root) and look for errors
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3313[21:18:40] <lattera2> except, lspci only shows intel for VGA
3314[21:19:04] <tamarin> greycat: There aren't any errors on boot or if I ifdown/ifup. dhclient wlan0 works fine and produces no errors.
3315[21:19:07] <Sayona> :D
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3327[21:22:34] <Sayona> Hi, I use this ssh -p 2221 -C root@srv.xxxx mysqldump -u mkxxx --password=nxxx8 mkxxx | gzip > xxxx.sql.gz , and after 5min give me Connection timed out
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3332[21:23:00] <Rambler44> Still no idea how, this man page confuses me a bit
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3334[21:23:33] <Rambler44> From my understanding -O only disabled filesystem features, and tune2fs -o journalling_data_writeback would enable the mount option, but how in the world would I disable it then?
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3338[21:26:11] <Rambler44> ah they can be used both to set and clear ^ I see
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3376[21:44:47] <beer-> i need some help
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3378[21:45:08] <beer-> with kali linux
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3380[21:45:21] <greycat> !kali
3381[21:45:21] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3385[21:46:49] <beer-> I cant do some attack on web site Error can't read new threads
3386[21:46:56] <beer-> needs help
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3388[21:47:27] <Rambler44> Hmm, I did a touch /forcefsck and rebooted, but nothing was to be found inside /var/log/fsck... Did it not run properly, should I combine fsck with shutdown command perhaps?
3389[21:47:36] <OerHeks> beer-, seems like a very solid website.
3390[21:47:48] <OerHeks> beer-, see the answer of dpkg
3391[21:48:00] <beer-> OerHeks u think so?
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3396[21:49:07] <beer-> OerHeks Im using ufonet
3397[21:49:09] <beer-> Error can't read new threads
3398[21:49:14] <geoffchau> I can't boot amd64 live debian from a lexar 16gb flash drive. I am using an ASUS m32 series desktop computer. When I try to boot it gives me a black screen for a couple seconds and then it reverts back to windows
3399[21:49:24] <__marco> Hello. When will be Firefox 48 available for in mozilla.debian.net?
3400[21:49:26] <afx_> Hello ! is there a way I can ping a hostname in my local network instead of an ip ?
3401[21:49:40] <beer-> default is 5
3402[21:50:01] <__marco> afx_: you need a dns or an entry in /etc/hosts
3403[21:50:29] <greycat> Rambler44: I don't believe /forcefsck works in systemd (jessie) and I also don't believe there is ANY analogous replacement for it
3404[21:50:49] <Rambler44> Quite possible, I found logs for my first boot in /run/initramfs/fsck.log
3405[21:50:53] <jim> hi... during a dist-upgrade, I'm getting the message "WARNING: lvmetad is running but disabled. Restart lvmetad before enabling"... what's it mean? what's lvmetad?
3406[21:51:29] <afx_> __macro I have set my wireless adapter to use my router as dns server
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3408[21:52:02] <__marco> afx_: you need an entry in your dns, ergo add an entry in your /etc/hosts
3409[21:52:18] <jim> possibly your router doesnt know your internal machine names?
3410[21:52:25] <afx_> k will do that __macro
3411[21:52:27] <afx_> thank you
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3414[21:53:10] <jim> I have a linux box as my router, and I run a dns server on it; it does know the inside machines
3415[21:53:26] <__marco> afx_: I try now if my router is able to resolve my hosts
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3419[21:54:07] <afx_> jim, from my routers page I can view the dhcp client list/names
3420[21:54:23] <Rambler44> greycat, well, I guess I'm never checking my root fs then?
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3424[21:54:55] <Rambler44> unless yeah wasn't there an option for that in fstab or did that only apply to non-root systems
3425[21:54:57] <Rambler44> probably
3426[21:55:14] <greycat> You get a "quick" check each time, and probably a full check every 180 days or whatever the file system parameters specify.
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3435[21:59:46] <mo1991reg> #compiz-reloaded
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3443[22:02:22] <__marco> afx_: no it doesn't
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3445[22:02:56] <afx_> __marco, thank you I will edit the /etc/hosts as needed!
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3457[22:06:48] <sm00th> welp the latest windows upgrade destroyed the installation. again.
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3471[22:12:12] <jackweb> hello, I have downloaded amd64 netinst debian and installed it on my pendrive with dd. when I boot my laptop, I see unknown file system and rescue mode
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3474[22:12:23] <jackweb> what can be a cause?
3475[22:12:51] <jackweb> i am not able to insmod linux
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3480[22:14:03] <missmbob> insmod linux? you thought that would work? what were you even thinking that would do?
3481[22:14:33] <missmbob> jackweb: what was the exact dd command?
3482[22:14:45] <jackweb> dd if=~/...iso of=/dev/sdf
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3485[22:15:29] <missmbob> doesn't really answer. anyway, did you sync after dd?
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3488[22:15:59] <jackweb> missmbob: what do you mean "sync"?
3489[22:16:08] <jackweb> what command?
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3493[22:16:37] <missmbob> jackweb: sync. it's a command. makes sure all data is done. like "eject usb" on windows
3494[22:16:39] <greycat> sync is a command, though I doubt it matters in this case
3495[22:16:48] <jackweb> ah, thanks
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3497[22:16:49] <jackweb> i'll try
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3501[22:18:01] <jackweb> the same: no such device 568... unknown filesystem, entering rescue mode.. :(
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3539[22:35:28] <jim> Hi; still wondering about lvmetad... is it safe to enable it?
3540[22:36:32] <greycat> In each case so far where an apt-get command has spammed me with two dozen lvmetad lines, I have simply ignored them. I don't know what it is either. I don't know why most systems don't get spammed by it, but a few do.
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3542[22:38:19] <jim> mine does... apparantly the lemetad thing is running, but disabled (which is exactly what the message says)... had you or anyone ever enabled it?
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3545[22:38:39] <greycat> Not knowingly.
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3549[22:40:07] <foo> I did find ./ -iname '.sql' -delete... I can see all files were deleted, but when I df -h ... there is still a lot of space used. Any idea where find might move things to? I don't see it in /tmp
3550[22:40:08] <jim> anyone know what this thing is for... reading the man page, it says it tries to get info about which VGs are on a system in some kind of more dynamic way
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3552[22:40:26] <greycat> foo: what are these files that you are deleting?
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3555[22:41:20] <greycat> (find does not MOVE files)
3556[22:41:27] <jim> foo, do you use sql databases in some way? or anything that does?
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3559[22:42:28] <greycat> (a file that is unlinked, that is to say "deleted" or "removed", but which is *still opened* by *any process* just removes the file's name from the directory, but the space is still in use until every process closes the file)
3560[22:42:41] <foo> greycat: they're backups. I didn't think find moved files, but -delete, which I thought was supposed to rm -fr the files, apparently didn't change disk usage with du -sh
3561[22:42:48] <foo> greycat: (although the files aren't there anymore)
3562[22:42:51] <greycat> (so what ARE these files? is something still using them? YES, processes can still use files that you have "removed")
3563[22:42:55] <foo> jim: yes, they're backups
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3565[22:43:11] <greycat> Is the process that creates them *still running*?
3566[22:43:17] <foo> I mean, df -h
3567[22:43:23] <foo> greycat: no
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3569[22:43:40] <foo> err, I'm good, user error. Was looking at the wrong partition.
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3571[22:44:22] <jim> is it posssible you were looking at one partition and operating on another?
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3595[22:52:56] <jmcnaught> jim: there is an lvmetad man page. on my system it's socket activated, so lvm2-lvmetad.socket is what is enabled
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3605[22:57:00] <jmcnaught> jim: however my /etc/lvm/lvm.conf has "use_lvmetad = 0" so it doesn't to be actually be in use on my system
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3612[23:00:38] <awal1> jackweb, try with cp: cp youriso /dev/your-usbstick ; sync then boot it
3613[23:00:52] <greycat> cp and dd are the same
3614[23:01:10] <awal1> yeah, just if any I dont know what :P
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