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55[00:22:04] <srvk> It seems dpkg wants
linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64 for installing
xen-linux-system-4.6.0-1-amd64, but I have
linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed instead. Can/should I force it to
use the kernel I already have? (Debian Sid)
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59[00:26:29] <srvk> I don't even know the difference
between the unsigned and signed kernel, I just figured I better get
the signed one...
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60[00:27:21] <Wally> srvk I think the newer kernels support new
features
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61[00:27:28] <Wally> AUFS for example
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62[00:27:36] <Wally> Oh wait.. nvm
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63[00:27:45] <Wally> I dunno how that works, maybe a symbolic
link?
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65[00:28:03] <srvk> I think it's the same version, what I
have and what xen wants, but I have the -signed ppackage, so dpkg
doesnt accept it
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66[00:28:14] <srvk> asks me to remove the kernel
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67[00:28:25] <Wally> Try a symbolic link to the one it wants
from your existing kernel
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69[00:29:38] <srvk> for the kernel itself or for the package?
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70[00:29:48] <Wally> kernel
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71[00:30:20] <srvk> the file seems to already have the same
name
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72[00:30:28] <srvk> it's just the package that's
different
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73[00:30:56] <Wally> you probably chan change the configure
script then
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80[00:34:27] <srvk> there seems to be this issue: Version of
linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64 on system, provided by
linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed:amd64, is <none>.
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81[00:34:36] <srvk> this is normal?
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108[00:51:12] <AmazeCPK> I'm having trouble connecting to
mydomain.com/wp while following these instructions:
replaced-url
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109[00:51:31] <AmazeCPK> I am greeted with this error: Error
establishing a database connection
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110[00:51:36] <Wally> did you setup a database?
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112[00:52:16] <Wally> did you reload apache?
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113[00:52:25] <AmazeCPK> ye, instructions had me create a
database called 'wordpress' using a script
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115[00:52:44] <AmazeCPK> I have reloaded apache
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118[00:52:56] <`Kevin> can you connect to the database from that
host?
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119[00:53:00] <`Kevin> eg mysql on command line
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120[00:53:16] <AmazeCPK> yes, using root, have not tried the
user, one second
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121[00:53:59] <AmazeCPK> yes I can connect using the test user
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123[00:54:04] <Wally> did you chmod the directory for
replaced-url
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125[00:54:09] <Wally> chown*
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126[00:54:25] <AmazeCPK> I have not. have not seen that in the
instructions at this point
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127[00:55:25] <`Kevin> verify your wp config file has the proper
DB connection settings, if it does write a minimal php script that
connects to mysql to begin debugging php itself
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130[00:56:34] <AmazeCPK> oh man, that's out of my scope of
knowledge at the moment
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138[00:58:56] <Wally> also AmazeCPK maybe check to see if sql is
running sudo service mysql start
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139[00:59:03] <Wally> sometimes that can be the problem ;)
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142[01:00:42] <AmazeCPK> was running, but tried again. still
same error
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295[02:40:37] <starstuff> How do I get a list of all i386
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296[02:41:41] <missmbob> starstuff: dpkg -l |grep i386
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298[02:42:09] <missmbob> missmbob: you can also use |grep ^i
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374[03:21:53] <klow> Trying to figure out if I have a network
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375[03:21:58] <rsully> Is there a ppa that I can use to get a
modern version of openssh on debian? 6.7 is suuuper old guys
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377[03:25:22] <AmazeCPK> I am trying to restart apache2 after
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378[03:25:29] <AmazeCPK>
replaced-url
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392[03:34:12] <Tdunk> trying to figure out why i cant send
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393[03:34:21] <AmazeCPK> you need to identify
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394[03:34:31] <Tdunk> hmm i thought i did
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395[03:34:41] <AmazeCPK> ./msg nisckserv identify <nick>
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397[03:35:10] <sypher> Every time you connect to the server. Not
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398[03:35:41] <AmazeCPK> ^^ my bad
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530[04:53:58] <strafiken> hey :)
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532[04:54:06] <strafiken> I know i'm likely to get flamed
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533[04:54:24] <strafiken> but has anyone had any luck installing
debian on a macbook air from usb?
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553[05:07:30] <bagbobilgins> strafiken: there are issues with
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555[05:07:37] <bagbobilgins> speak to the bots
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620[05:45:57] <john_rambo> I read that a recent update has
replaced iceweasel with FIrefox ESR ...... But that didn't
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621[05:46:25] <john_rambo> Using Jessie
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698[06:34:27] <reev> Hii I am using debian jessie ,I dont want
to run anacron from cron job via /etc/cron.d/anacron , what if i
remove anacron from cron.d , will anacron still be running after
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715[06:41:36] <jmcnaught> reev: why don't you want anacron
running?
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733[06:51:33] <vahe> hi all
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735[06:52:14] <reev> jmcnaught I want anacron to run only when
machine reboots now what is happening when machines is running
without any reboot, anacron runs every day at 7:30 which is due to
anacron entry in cron.d
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736[06:52:18] <reev> I dont want this
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738[06:52:31] <reev> behaviour
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739[06:52:40] <reev> is it okay to do so?
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741[06:53:31] <reev> I want to know if i remove that cron entry
of anacron will anacron still be running after reboot
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742[06:53:45] <vahe> hi all,bought a minipc ,there ubuntu unity
,I want to use as a server to disable or remove X(unity) how to
disable or remove? may just change chmod to 644 ?
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744[06:54:05] <jmcnaught> reev: as far as i know anacron
doesn't run persistently
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746[06:55:03] <reev> cron is running anacron every day at 7:30
through /etc/cron.d/anacron file
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748[06:55:31] <reev> right now i have commented that entry
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749[06:57:01] <jmcnaught> reev: check the "DEBIAN
SPECIFIC" part of cron(8). cron stops handling
/etc/cron.{daily,weekly,montly} when anacron is installed to prevent
conflicts
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754[06:58:10] <jmcnaught> reev: so if you still want the jobs in
those directories to run, just with cron, you should maybe remove
the anacron package altogether
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765[07:03:50] <reev> jmnaught: okay this seems legit, anacron is
also run by cron that is why it has entry in /etc/cron.d directory
but if i remove this entry will anacron still run after reboot
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767[07:04:25] <reev> have you checked this on your machine
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772[07:05:41] <jmcnaught> reev: i see no reason to disable
anacron. if you're going to disable it but leave it installed
you should look closer into how cron and anacron interact on Debian
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777[07:08:35] <reev> jmcnaught you are not getting my point here
I just disabled anacron not to run everyday at 7:30 thats it,
anacron is supposed to run after reboot I haven't changed
anything related to this particular behaviour
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781[07:10:04] <jmcnaught> reev: it will run at startup. you
might have daily, weekly, monthly jobs that don't run on time
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787[07:12:31] <jmcnaught> reev: things that run at startup that
are installed from packages will have a systemd unit or init script
that you can check with "systemctl is-enabled anacron" for
example
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788[07:13:15] <jmcnaught> reev: anyways you may want to also see
anacron's README.Debian
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793[07:14:09] <reev> jmcnaught
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794[07:14:14] <reev> let me check that
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795[07:14:53] <reev> this configuration will still run daily,
weekly, monthly jobs since they are not commented in /etc/crontab
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803[07:18:05] <jmcnaught> reev: " test -x /usr/sbin/anacron
|| ( cd / && run-parts ..." it only runs those jobs if
anacron is not installed
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806[07:19:16] <jmcnaught> reev: so remove anacron package so
cron takes over those jobs, or accept that those jobs only get
checked at boot
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808[07:19:31] <reev> jmcnaught okay ,I didn't pay attention
to test -x there
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809[07:19:35] <jmcnaught> or you know, leave it with Debian
default
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823[07:29:20] <reev> jmcnaught thanks for following up
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827[07:32:36] <jmcnaught> reev: you're welcome. do you mind
if i ask why you want to stop anacron from running in the morning?
If it's a computer that's not on all the time, it makes
sense to use anacron because it guarantees those monthly jobs run.
with cron if the computer isn't running when the monthly job is
scheduled, it doesn't get run
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833[07:37:56] <reev> jmcnaught I have script which i want to run
at midnight but issue is system is not up sometimes at that time So
to overcome that I use anacron in such a way that run script after
reboot but if system is up run script at midnight
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837[07:39:07] <reev> now whats happening system is up script ran
at midnight via cron and after that at 7:30 anacron starts and again
runs the script
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838[07:39:37] <reev> scipt is configured to run both via cron
and anacron in /etc/crontab
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853[07:46:04] <jmcnaught> reev: that's interesting. did you
consider simply changing the time that anacron runs to be midnight
instead of 7:30?
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856[07:50:09] <jmcnaught> reev: another option you could try is
a systemd.timer unit with Persistent=true set
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859[07:51:00] <ld> hi guys
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860[07:51:20] <ld> for some reason when i boot up, gnome no
longer starts properly
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861[07:52:04] <reev> jmcnaught hmm you mean to say that run
script via anacron only by configuring anacorn to run at midnight
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862[07:52:13] <reev> rather than 7:30
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864[07:53:03] <reev> jmcnaught I still use sysvinit kernel
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865[07:53:39] <Ticho> sysvinit has a kernel now? wow :)
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866[07:54:04] <ld> i installed debian jesse, and one day i boot
my system and x doesnt start. how can i find out what is going
wrong?
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867[07:54:13] <ld> i had gnome installed
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869[07:54:41] <reev> Ticho debian jeesie gives you choice to
boot systemd kernel or sysvinit kernel
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871[07:54:43] <ld> what is normally run to start gnome up
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872[07:55:03] <jmcnaught> reev: well systemd has timer units
that are like cron jobs, and they have a Persistent= directive that
catches up on missed jobs
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873[07:55:21] <jmcnaught> reev: systemd and sysvinit are init
systems, not kernels. linux is the kernel
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874[07:55:35] <reev> jmcnaught okay i will look into this
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875[07:56:05] <reev> yes theu are init systems but I mean to say
sysvinit enables kernel
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876[07:56:10] <reev> *enabled
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877[07:56:12] <jmcnaught> ld: take a look at
/var/log/Xorg.0.log. if you put that on
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878[07:57:13] <jmcnaught> reev: when linux boots it looks for
/sbin/init and runs that. init starts all the system services.
systemd is a newer init than sysvinit
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879[07:57:13] <reev> jmcnaught are you trying to say that run
script via anacron only by configuring anacorn to run at midnight?
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883[07:58:07] <jmcnaught> reev: yeah.. if anacron runs once a
day, make it run at midnight instead of 7:30.
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884[07:58:29] <jmcnaught> reev: what is the anacrontab line that
you used for the script?
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885[07:58:39] <reev> one sec
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890[08:00:28] <ld> jmcnaught: thanks
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893[08:02:09] <ld> here is my Xorg.0.log
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895[08:02:24] <ld> I think it is gdm3 that is the issue
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896[08:02:27] <ld> x is configured fine
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897[08:03:01] <ld> service gdm3 status says it exited with no
error
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898[08:03:03] <jmcnaught> ld: then look at "journalctl -u
gdm"
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901[08:03:55] <ld> its empty, but gdm3 isnt running and when i
start it it doesn't appear to do anything
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902[08:04:10] <jmcnaught> ld: how are you starting it?
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903[08:04:39] <ld> service gdm3 start
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904[08:04:57] <jmcnaught> do you have any other DMs installed?
what does "systemctl status display-manager" say?
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907[08:05:30] <jmcnaught> oh it's probably the same as
"service ..." but can you make a paste?
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909[08:05:52] <ld> display-manager.service
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913[08:06:40] <ld> I don't have any other DMs installed
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914[08:07:00] <jmcnaught> ld: "Loaded: loaded
(/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service; enabled)" is what it says for
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916[08:07:04] <ld> although i did just install a bunch of
gnome-keyring packages of a different architecture
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917[08:07:11] <ld> for other reasons
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918[08:07:17] <ld> which i think is waht did it
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920[08:08:00] <ld> maybe it got uninstalled somehow???
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921[08:08:13] <jmcnaught> apt-cache policy gdm3
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922[08:09:09] <ld> yep, i dont have the gnome-session package,
it must have gotten uninstalled
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924[08:10:09] <ld> i must have uninstalled it by accident when i
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925[08:10:17] <ld> apt-get install gnome-session fixed the
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990[08:44:42] <rak7HsEqu> hello guys, I'm thinking on
switching my desktop to debian, however i want to have more recent
updates than the stable branch, between testing and unstable which
one do you recommend?
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992[08:45:59] <AkQ> Windows 10
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993[08:46:39] <rak7HsEqu> AkQ: and cyanide right?
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994[08:46:45] <AkQ> ;D
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995[08:47:04] <AkQ> sorry, i'm new to linux world x) just a
noob here
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996[08:47:36] <rak7HsEqu> k
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997[08:48:00] <up2late> LOL
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1000[08:49:50] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu:
replaced-url
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1005[08:53:01] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: yeah i know, but how often
does those breaks happen?
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1009[08:53:49] <jmcnaught> more often when there's a big
transition, less often during the freeze period for testing
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1010[08:54:18] <jmcnaught> if you want a computer that works the
same way everyday and gets new versions of everything every couple
of years, use debian stable
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1014[08:54:41] <rak7HsEqu> i would like to have recent packages
tho
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1018[08:55:08] <jmcnaught> if you know how to fix package
problems and other linux issues, you can try testing or unstable,
especially if you're interested in reporting bugs
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1020[08:56:01] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: what are you missing from
the newer packages? i use jessie on my laptop, i don't really
feel like i'm missing out on much
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1021[08:56:32] <jmcnaught> with stable you can also use backports
for newer versions of some packages
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1022[08:57:09] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: i use some python modules
on its recent versions, but i've run into problems updating
them from pip for example, so i prefer to have a recent version of
those packages on the OS repositories
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1023[08:57:47] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: what problems with pip?
you're not running pip as root are you?
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1031[09:00:12] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: why not?
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1032[09:00:25] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: I mean, currently i
don't, i rarely use pip
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1037[09:02:18] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: it can interfere with dpkg
managed files, and PyPI packages can be uploaded by pretty much
anyone
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1038[09:02:52] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu:
replaced-url
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1039[09:03:23] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: the thing is that once i
tried to install some packages (numpy, scipy, pandas, etc) using pip
on a clean install... it blew up
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1041[09:03:41] <rak7HsEqu> jmcnaught: it was a long time ago, but
since then i've never used pip for such modules
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1044[09:04:14] <jmcnaught> rak7HsEqu: try it in a virtualenv as a
regular user
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1049[09:06:32] <unborn> morning all :)
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1051[09:06:46] <spidy> good morning :)
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1052[09:07:05] <ransur0t> happy midnight from my tzone ;)
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1062[09:11:56] <AkQ> can i have subdomains for my server if i got
no real domain, just the IP-address
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1064[09:13:20] <rozie> AkQ: depends what you understand by
"subdomain for server"
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1065[09:13:43] <rozie> server mostly has nothing to do with
domains (check if not vhost)
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1066[09:13:46] <AkQ> subdomain.123.12.21.12
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1067[09:14:11] <rozie> and you can set record for any domain
(subdomain is a domain too)
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1070[09:14:38] <rozie> but higher level needs to exist somewhere
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1071[09:14:55] <AkQ> apparently ovh gives domain for every server
by default
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1072[09:14:57] <rozie> even if this is just a NS entry in other
DNS server
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1073[09:15:16] <AkQ> vps123456.ovh.net so the domain would be ...
subdomain.vps123456.ovh.net right?
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1076[09:15:49] <jmcnaught> AkQ: you'd have to ask ovh.net to
give you that subdomain
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1077[09:16:14] <AkQ> ask? it cannot be done just by myself?
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1078[09:16:58] <jmcnaught> AkQ: maybe in the ovh admin page
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1080[09:17:11] <unborn> AkQ: if you dont have proper dns and real
domain, I think the way to get it is add ip of your srv and
subdomain link into your hosts..
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1082[09:18:08] <unborn> AkQ: if you do run your own dns srv
somewhere or be it on same srv then theoretically it could work but
again - running this as subdomain.ip is just nonsense
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1085[09:18:23] <jmcnaught> unborn: srv?
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1086[09:18:23] <AkQ> so i need the domain
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1089[09:19:55] <unborn> jmcnaught: srv I mean server in short
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1090[09:20:18] <jmcnaught> unborn: it's confusing because
SRV is a type of DNS record
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1092[09:21:07] <rozie> +1
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1093[09:21:20] <unborn> AkQ: yeah it makes sense if you want to
share that domain to outer worlds.. if not just add subdomain with
ip of your srv to your hosts file (I am guessing that you running
dns srv somewhere aka bind) so when you do subdomain.ipofsrv your
srv will know where to point that subdomain..
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1095[09:21:35] <rozie> don't guess ;)
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1096[09:21:46] <rozie> he probably has just an OVH panel
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1097[09:21:47] <unborn> jmcnaught: what is confusing? bind
server?
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1098[09:21:59] <rozie> unborn: there is SRV record in DNS
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1100[09:22:14] <jmcnaught> unborn: when you shorten server to srv
it's not clear if you mean an srv record or not
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1101[09:22:14] <unborn> rozie: yeah I got strong feeling that he
is on basic setup
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1103[09:22:21] <rozie> using srv for server and for record while
talking about DNS is confusing
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1104[09:22:58] * unborn sorry guys for confusion - I did not mean it..
just bit lazy to type whole world out.. lesson learned
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1105[09:23:02] <AkQ> yea i got ovh manager open - the thing is
that i need to install a forum to a servers subdomain without having
the real domain yet, because of lack of money.. i suppose i just
wait few days to get moneyz and buy that domain and then get the
subdomain and then install the forum to the subdomain, seems easier
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1107[09:23:07] <rozie> AkQ: please contact OVH support with your
questions. it's not Debian related in any way and not even
general DNS question
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1108[09:23:26] <unborn> and autoreplace in my client updated :)
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1110[09:23:48] <rozie> my short answer is: set NS records for
this subdomain, use some free DNS servers (like he.net) and do
whatever you want with this (sub)domain
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1111[09:23:57] <jmcnaught> AkQ: changing the domain name that the
forum software is running on a few days after installing it
doesn't sound like a great idea
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1112[09:24:06] <rozie> not sure if OVH allows for this, but...
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1113[09:24:21] <AkQ> jmcnaught my thoughts exactly
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1114[09:24:25] <Wally> Backup the forum database.. Do the sub
domain, reinstall software
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1115[09:24:27] <Wally> restore forum database
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1116[09:24:48] <Wally> Why do you need a forum anyway?
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1117[09:25:07] <AkQ> for a project - but i just do something else
for the project before getting moneyz for the domain
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1118[09:25:17] <jmcnaught> Wally: and if the forum software keeps
hardlinks to itself in the database?
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1120[09:25:32] <Wally> jmcnaught that's why I said to
reinstall the software :P
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1121[09:25:45] <AkQ> unborn i am too new to linux world to do
that :/
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1122[09:25:46] <jmcnaught> Wally: and then restore the
database...
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1126[09:25:59] <Wally> The forum database shouldn't have
that stuff in it.
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1128[09:26:21] <jmcnaught> Wally: i agree, but i've seen it
with wordpress so it wouldn't surprise me
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1129[09:26:26] <Wally> ah wordpress.
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1130[09:26:27] <unborn> AkQ: and trust me i am more happy with my
own server. it just works..
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1131[09:26:38] <Wally> carry on.
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1133[09:27:06] <AkQ> my ISP has a rule that i cannot host
services from my internet connection
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1134[09:27:36] <Wally> What sort of ISP is that?
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1136[09:27:37] <AkQ> or at least i think its a rule
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1137[09:27:42] <jmcnaught> anyways, you can only create a
subdomain of ovh.net if OVH sets up SOA start of authority record
for your VPS's subdomain and points it at your nameserver
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1138[09:27:45] <unborn> AkQ: I would still say, speak to your
hosting provider - end of the day that is what you are paying for
there.. support is there as well and I think they will be much more
helpful then us.
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1141[09:28:31] <AkQ> yea, i'll do that
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1142[09:28:33] <AkQ> thansk
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1144[09:29:08] <jmcnaught> DNS is hierarchical, you need the
permission of a domain to make a subdomain
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1146[09:29:31] <AkQ> OVH Anycast DNS - is it worth it?
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1148[09:29:53] <unborn> jmcnaught: exactly you just said, that is
why I told him, that he should have real domain otherwise nothing
much will work..
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1152[09:31:05] <venkat_330> is it advisable to run application
with privilage 4755 ??
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1153[09:31:23] <unborn> AkQ: when you purchase domain - you can
point that domain to your ip (your server ip) and there if you would
run bind server which manages dns - then you can create subdomains
on a go.. if you cannot run dns server your self then all you can do
is create subdomain on your domain register star and point A records
to it
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1154[09:31:47] <unborn> but I think there is an limit with those
- anyway that is off topic. Lets get back to debian ;)
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1157[09:32:31] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: which program?
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1158[09:32:39] <AkQ> i'm interested about setting up a home
server for domains - i've got 4 domains and i have to pay
20e/year for them ;G
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1160[09:33:05] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: a custom application.
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1161[09:33:25] <AkQ> unborn: is there a guide how to do it to
home laptop server?
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1162[09:33:26] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: do you know what 4755
does? which user owns the file?
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1164[09:33:50] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: Earlier i saw the system
was completely running under root..Now i am trying to run under
normal user.
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1165[09:33:55] <unborn> AkQ: its easy. there is a plenty of
material on google for that or you can hire some pro to help you
with it
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1167[09:34:07] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: User ..
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1168[09:34:09] <AkQ> i don't want to hire anyone, i want to
learn this stuff
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1174[09:34:59] <jmcnaught> running DNS servers on a residential
internet connection isn't advisable especially if you expect
any sort of traffic
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1175[09:35:01] <unborn> AkQ: sure as I said before there is
plenty of stuff on google.. just use it
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1176[09:35:35] <unborn> jmcnaught: I see no reason why.. im doing
that for more then 7 years same as so many people :)
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1178[09:36:08] <unborn> its same as someone would tell oh you
cannot have ssl if you have no static ip
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1179[09:36:19] <AkQ> if i have shitty home connection, does it
affect how fast my websites load? they are not located at home
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1180[09:36:21] <unborn> (with all respect) - those are myths
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1182[09:36:46] <jmcnaught> because residential internet is less
reliable, and likely has higher latency than a system in a data
centre
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1183[09:36:47] <unborn> AkQ: yes it will.. I mean really you
should google it
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1184[09:37:01] <AkQ> damn i think i can't do that then
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1185[09:37:16] <AkQ> i have shit 4g connection
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1187[09:37:26] <jmcnaught> i've run home servers, but the
DNS was in some cloud somewhere
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1191[09:38:10] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: so the program is owned by
a regular user, and then what runs it?
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1192[09:38:49] <venkat_330> i am trying access a peripheral
device (digital I/O port) with it.
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1196[09:40:14] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: the program runs
interactively, or some background process starts it?
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1197[09:40:35] <venkat_330> runs interactively now..
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1198[09:41:11] <venkat_330> but intended run under normal user
during startup
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1200[09:42:07] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: you can set the user you
want to run it as with the User= directive in a systemd unit, or
with start-stop-daemon in an initscript
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1204[09:43:58] <unborn> jmcnaught: I think if user know what
he/she is doing and have decent internet connection in home/office
which these days are nearly everywhere, user would be just fine, but
managing bind for newbie could be not so easy to understand so yeah
if that - external dnses could be helpful.
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1205[09:44:23] <unborn> AkQ: for server you would defo need
normal connection - not mobile one.
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1207[09:44:31] <AkQ> definitely
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1208[09:45:02] <jmcnaught> unborn: for a lot of people it would
mean their domains all go down when they move to a new house or
apartment
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1209[09:45:20] <AkQ> can't have that
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1210[09:45:21] <sukhoi> hello guys
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1212[09:46:03] <sukhoi> Is there a person that have used maxscale
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1213[09:46:04] <sukhoi> ?
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1217[09:48:11] <Wally> no
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1219[09:49:04] <unborn> jmcnaught: oh yah - that is quiet
normal.. seen it many times but even with those companies aka
hostgator or justhost - it happen all the time and hostings like
those companies are mostly used... it will happen even if you have
external dnses and server in home.. no one will die for bit
downtime, we both know it and we could go with it all day but I
think its perfectly normal to host your sites from home if you have
decent connection. nothing wrong
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1220[09:49:04] <unborn> with it. I think AkQ did understand it
now a bit better and we can move on from off topic. btw great
discussion. thanks.
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1222[09:50:16] <AkQ> thanks for all your input unborn
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1257[10:10:06] <MaBunny> where can i find the debugged .so file
for libstdc++ dynamic lib
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1286[10:27:39] <gbit> Hi all, I'm setting up a chroot jail
into ssh, but I'm having problem with php, it can't find
the env path. Do you guys have any idea what I can be missing here?
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1287[10:28:09] <Wally> have you set the [env] path?
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1288[10:28:23] <gbit> yes
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1290[10:29:29] <Wally> k
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1291[10:29:32] <Wally> no idea
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1332[10:54:53] <quackgyver>
replaced-url
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1333[10:54:59] <quackgyver> So where do I go from here to
download the .deb file
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1341[10:57:48] <Epakai> quackgyver: you should just install it
using apt, but otherwise click on the release link for whatever
debian version you have installed, at the bottom of the page there
are links for each architecture to download the package
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1346[10:59:57] <quackgyver> Epakai: I tried clicking the jessie
release but can't figure out where to go from there
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1347[11:00:05] <quackgyver> I'm trying to put an executable
of dosbox on a thumb drive
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1350[11:01:11] <Epakai> this probably isn't the right way to
do that, the debian package's executable will still depend on
other packages being installed
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1356[11:05:53] <quackgyver> So there's no way to do it?
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1365[11:12:06] <Wally> Unless you can guarantee that you have the
dependancies on another machine.
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1366[11:12:14] <Epakai> build a statically linked dosbox
executable, but i don't know how to do that
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1367[11:12:20] <Wally> If you compile dosbox and have all the
libs with you, it shouldn't be too big of an issue
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1368[11:12:24] <quackgyver> Sounds a bit complicated
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1369[11:12:33] <quackgyver> so i guess i better just skip it
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1370[11:12:34] <Wally> hi BTW :)
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1371[11:12:38] <quackgyver> sup wally
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1372[11:12:45] <Wally> Oh you know. Just lurking.
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1373[11:13:02] <quackgyver> sweet
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1374[11:13:05] <Wally> Pretty sure a compiled dosbox will just
work fine on a USB stick as debian does have all the crap you need
by default.
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1375[11:13:28] <Wally> actually i'll take that back.
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1378[11:16:42] <Wally> What's the purpose of this exercise
quackgyver? :)
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1384[11:20:21] <quackgyver> Wally: I just want a portable
multi-platform dropbox setup on usb
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1385[11:20:28] <quackgyver> for gaming and msdos coding on the go
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1387[11:20:34] <Wally> Just use your Pandora ;)
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1390[11:22:26] <venkat_330> can someone suggest best way to
access digital IO / parallel port
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1417[11:42:22] <Wally> D:
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1430[11:51:46] <Sayona> Hello, I want to set iptables for my
debian, do you have a good tutorial for this? thanks
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1432[11:52:31] <Epakai> !iptables
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1433[11:52:31] <dpkg> [iptables] The user-space process used to
administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about
<netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up
iptables, see
replaced-url
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1438[11:54:26] <Sayona> thanks
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1440[11:55:05] <ransur0t> Hi folks. Anyone here with experience
with using VLC and icecast streams behind a proxy?
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1442[11:55:33] <ransur0t> (I've asked at #videolan but not
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1449[11:59:00] <vahe> hi all
,ifconfige not see wlan0,
only eth0 and lo,now wifi is not working
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1450[11:59:43] <rozie> vahe: did it work before?
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1451[12:00:05] <vahe> rozie: yes
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1453[12:00:38] <vahe> rozie: I updated and after this is not
visible
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1454[12:00:46] <rozie> what did you update?
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1456[12:01:03] <vahe> apt upgrade
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1457[12:01:03] <apt> Upgrading is easy! Go that way, really fast.
If something gets in your way, turn.
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1458[12:01:03] <vahe> nothing removed
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1499[12:37:14] <AquaL1te> hi guys, i want to create a docker
image that installs a remote .deb file. but apt-get can't fetch
a remote deb? and dpkg -i can't resolve dependencies. is there
a way to install a remote .deb like the package manager of fedora?
dnf (fedora) for example can do this, it installs all the
dependencies
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1500[12:37:38] <Wally> apt-get?
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1501[12:38:27] <AquaL1te> Wally: apt-get install $REMOTE_URL_DEB,
if that makes it more clear for you :)
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1505[12:39:12] <Wally> apt can grab all the dependancies for a
certain application
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1507[12:39:59] <AquaL1te> Wally: try: apt-get install
replaced-url
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1509[12:40:23] <Wally> righto
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1510[12:40:36] <themill> downloading random packages, not
authenticating them and then installing them doesn't work by
design
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1511[12:40:37] <Wally> I see your point.
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1512[12:40:52] <Epakai> apt-get install --fix-missing
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1513[12:41:21] <AquaL1te> Epakai: no apt can't fetch a
remote deb, that's the problem ;-) dpkg -i can't resolve
dependencies
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1514[12:41:42] <AquaL1te> so the answer is, don't use a deb
based distro?
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1518[12:41:52] <Wally> gdebi?
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1519[12:42:00] <Epakai> dpkg will still install it, it just
won't configure it, so you run apt-get to finish the
configuration
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1520[12:42:01] <dpkg> Epakai: You are person #1 to send an
unparseable request
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1521[12:42:11] <themill> AquaL1te: no, the answer is not to do
untrustworthy operations
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1522[12:42:14] <Wally> Try gdebi
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1523[12:42:48] <Epakai> dpkg hush
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1524[12:42:49] <dpkg> Fine, I'll shut up.
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1525[12:42:53] <AquaL1te> themill: same answer :P dnf/yum can do
it, so i guess i should just use that
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1527[12:43:09] <AquaL1te> Wally: i'll try to build the image
with the gdebi command
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1528[12:43:09] <themill> AquaL1te: apt is perfectly capable of
downloading packages if they can be trusted
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1530[12:43:56] <Wally> you need to have the deb on your local
machine
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1532[12:44:07] <Wally> but it should resolve dependancies
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1534[12:44:45] <AquaL1te> themill: so a local deb can be
installed by deb? i'll check that out
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1536[12:44:53] <AquaL1te> *by apt
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1537[12:45:01] <Epakai> wget url/package.deb; dpkg -i
package.deb; apt-get install --fix-missing
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1539[12:45:18] <themill> don't wget packages from untrusted
URLs
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1540[12:45:19] <vita_cell> hi, can someone help me? with PowerPC
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1541[12:45:23] <AquaL1te> Epakai: docker build will fail before
you can do --fix-missing
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1544[12:45:50] <AquaL1te> themill: okay :D i give up, so
don't use deb based distros
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1545[12:45:55] <funkadelic> how do i tell apt-get to ask me if i
want to install a package before actually installing it? ive noticed
that some times it asks and sometimes it does not, why is this and
how do i make it always ask?
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1546[12:46:09] <AquaL1te> i'll try a fedora base image and
make my life easier ^^
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1547[12:46:15] <Epakai> then create your own repo, it's not
terribly hard
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1548[12:46:27] <AquaL1te> Epakai: it's a docker image...
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1549[12:46:50] <themill> AquaL1te: umm... it doesn't
suddenly become trustable because you use a different tool
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1551[12:47:18] <AquaL1te> themill: true, but i can't install
a local deb, so that already fails
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1553[12:47:28] <funkadelic> Epakai, speaking of repos, since you
mentioned it. i do need to create my own repo, i only get X amount
of data per month, a very meager amount. how do i go about doing
that?
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1554[12:47:28] <AquaL1te> with deps resolved
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1557[12:48:25] <Epakai> so, do you need to ignore dpkg -i
returning a failure?
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1558[12:48:27] <AquaL1te> alright, i'll just use fedora.
thanks for your time anyway :-)
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1559[12:48:36] <themill> whatever...
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1560[12:48:48] <themill> it's not like people don't
install packages on debian.
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1564[12:50:31] <AquaL1te> themill: riight, too much pride in a
distro to recognize that apt isn't that awesome? anyway,
i'm not here to start a flame war. i thought debian would be an
easy fix since i need an older gcc to fix this image. but i'll
use fedora 23, that one still use a compabitle gcc
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1565[12:50:34] <Epakai> i'm not familiar with docker, but if
it's failing because dpkg -i returns a failing exit code then
you could just do dpkg -i package.deb||true
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1587[12:58:30] <Fjorgynn> tried to install x in debian
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1588[12:58:36] <Fjorgynn> but only root can startx
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1590[13:00:17] <unborn> Epakai: sorry to sound bad but - you
should ask docker chan for that..
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1592[13:00:50] <unborn> Fjorgynn: how about gnome or any other
de?
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1593[13:01:01] <Fjorgynn> dunno
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1594[13:01:05] <Fjorgynn> I was installing i3
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1595[13:01:15] <Fjorgynn> command line
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1596[13:01:32] <Sayona> Hi, is a way to configure my sendmail to
use a external smtp server to send emails?
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1597[13:01:37] <unborn> i3? sound to me as cpu sorry - im just
ict guy... okay install gnome and try it (after reboot)
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1598[13:02:08] <Fjorgynn> I don't want gnome
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1601[13:02:45] <Fjorgynn> installed lightdm
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1602[13:02:47] <Fjorgynn> now it works
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1603[13:02:52] <unborn> Sayona: there is but its fraking
complicated and once you do it - you will have to use same account
for everything which leads to mess.. how about if you do install
sendEmail (not sendmail) - that would work with as many accounts -
easy.. really I mean easy
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1605[13:03:07] <unborn> Fjorgynn: great - so issue solved.
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1606[13:03:29] <Sayona> unborn, uff
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1608[13:04:35] <unborn> Sayona: its easy like to do google search
:)
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1609[13:04:47] <Sayona> i try yes
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1610[13:04:50] <Sayona> thanks
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1611[13:04:51] <unborn> just install the package and you good to
go..
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1612[13:04:56] <Epakai> Fjorgynn: try 'dpkg-reconfigure
x11-common' as root, if it is set to root only that's your
problem, otherwise check ~/.xsession-errors to see why it's
failing
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1615[13:05:26] <Fjorgynn> Epakai: it's wierd that after I
installed lightdm I could login
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1616[13:05:28] <Epakai> a display manager is a good solution if
you normally want X though
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1617[13:05:38] <unborn> Sayona:
replaced-url
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1619[13:05:51] <Sayona> thanks
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1620[13:05:56] <unborn> Sayona: package is in apt-get
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1621[13:06:09] <Sayona> let me try
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1622[13:06:11] <unborn> but info is on that website.. really easy
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1623[13:06:14] <unborn> sure have fun
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1630[13:10:58] <unborn> Sayona: best thing is - it works very
nice along side of sendmail - means you can run both separated - but
on same system so.. let me know if you encounter any issues.. i do
use it for all of my machines (no dns no email server, no anything
on system - to do deliver reports of updates and health checks for
hardware and firewall and firmware - my mother of law seems to be
idiotic so I need to know if she is updated or not before she can
make my bold
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1631[13:10:58] <unborn> head even bolder) :)
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1632[13:11:33] <Sayona> I need sendmail to send my the logs etc
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1633[13:11:34] <Sayona> :D
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1634[13:11:46] <unborn> - also I use that for ssh logons on my
servers - I did mentioned that right?
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1636[13:12:02] <Sayona> fail2ban
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1637[13:12:04] <unborn> Sayona: well then simple sh script will
deliver that...
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1638[13:12:41] <unborn> yeah - I do use it too :) just use google
for this...its out there .. some really nice scripts with sendemail
:)
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1643[13:14:37] <unborn> I mean you can still use sendmail but for
local system - the install on your laptop or desktop - well - you
will have to do full setup regards dns and email accounts and static
ip.. - you know, you can hire someone for that stuff..it would be
much faster
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1644[13:15:09] * unborn and you will have to be located on that very
same ip all the times ;)
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1648[13:16:45] <unborn> common sense would be setup sendemial and
then deploy for I dont know every 5 minutes sh script which you
would do execute as normal user - to send you those logs or changes
in logs - you know you can deliver this via xmpp or google hangouts
too.. heh
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1651[13:17:12] <unborn> its all up to you.. you can do it.
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1658[13:20:23] <unborn> - thanks for you pm - im not a freak, I
just try to help end user - I mean really people?
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1659[13:20:55] <unborn> Sayona: sorry for too much info - I mean
you can do it. have nice day
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1660[13:20:56] <unborn> .
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1661[13:21:11] <Sayona> :* thanks
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1665[13:24:06] <unborn> Sayona: sure, you have all info you need
it to have and all leads to do it right - so go for it :) - have
nice day.
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1683[13:34:24] <sayNi> Does anyone know if Midori will be added
to the Jessie packages any time soon?
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1685[13:35:28] <Epakai> jessie is released, no packages are being
added
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1686[13:36:07] <Epakai> it is available in jessie-backports
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1688[13:36:23] <sayNi> Just curious, because I see that it is in
the package manager for SID. I was unaware that they can't
change the available packages once it's released.
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1690[13:37:43] <sayNi> I'm trying to keep this machine as
Libre as possible. I haven't added any more sources. I guess
that I'll look into it.
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1707[13:54:55] <AkQ>
replaced-url
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1708[13:55:30] <AkQ> 70% of bots in bot nets are linux - never
thought that would be possible but i guess linux isn't as safe
as many people think it is
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1710[13:56:00] <aivkiv> Linux are safe. Stupid users with cheep
VPS servers are THE risk.
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1712[13:56:16] <indistylo> While editing git repo file in Vim, I
got this error: W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file ? How to fix
this error:
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1713[13:56:18] <indistylo> I tried "chattr +i
/etc/puppet/puppet.conf"
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1714[13:56:21] <indistylo> & also tried this mount -o
remount,rw /
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1716[13:57:01] <nkuttler> indistylo: um, chmod +w it?
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1717[13:57:20] <nkuttler> or, do it as root
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1719[13:58:06] <nkuttler> and, -i sounds kinda better,
doesn't it?
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1723[14:00:23] <JustinHitla> Debian stable has a newer version of
Perl than Gentoo testing, what is the world coming to ?
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1724[14:00:37] <indistylo> nkuttler: i tried -i as well, not abel
to edit the file
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1726[14:01:56] <appas> When trying to suspend with pm-suspend, I
get the message "Freezing tasks failed, 1 task refused to
freeze". How do I a) fix this, b) find out the offending task?
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1727[14:02:06] <unborn> AkQ: what are you referring to with your
question if I may ask?
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1728[14:02:48] <indistylo> nkuttler: You can see this :
pastebin.com/bnxX9bu2
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1733[14:04:16] <unborn> AkQ: im on #debian-offtopic if you would
like to discuss some off topic stuff..
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1735[14:05:09] <unborn> aivkiv: nods you - you are right there :)
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1743[14:08:18] <unborn> JustinHitla: i did not get your question
quiet right but perhaps - you do test it your self on whatever
distro you are on or perhaps switch to debian for some time and see
it for your own eyes if its worth ;)
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1749[14:13:16] <Johnny> Hey there
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1750[14:13:18] <yardenbar> Hello, has anyone experienced with
atop flooding /run ?
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1778[14:21:33] <rozie> /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries
libnetfilter_conntrack.so.3 and libnetfilter_conntrack.so.3.3.0 in
directory /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi have same soname but different
type.
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1779[14:21:36] <rozie> /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries
libxapian.so.22.5.0 and libxapian.so.22.6.6 in directory /usr/lib
have same soname but different type.
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1780[14:21:40] <rozie> how to solve this?
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1786[14:23:46] <rozie> I guess I can just remove
libnetfilter_conntrack.so.3.3.0 and libxapian.so.22.5.0
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1788[14:24:04] <rozie> files exist, but symlink is to newer
versions
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permissions wrong by mistake! Ive set it to a user group for /
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1847[14:51:35] <unborn> Guest85903: for?
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1848[14:51:50] <unborn> apache or ngix?
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1851[14:52:21] <unborn> Stummi: I think its for specific user
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1852[14:52:23] <Guest85903> Sry i was afk for a sec.... I changed
ir recursively :/
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1855[14:52:40] <Guest85903> I used: chown -R mc11:mc11 /*
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1856[14:52:40] <unborn> Guest85903: for what user?
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1857[14:52:49] <Guest85903> Multicraft
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1858[14:52:51] <unborn> changed from what user?
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1859[14:52:53] <unborn> ah
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1862[14:53:26] <unborn> sure.. I do not run muticraft things
sorry.. google it out...
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1866[14:54:31] <Guest85903> Changed from user root ;(
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1868[14:54:51] <unborn> so change it back...
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1869[14:55:02] <Stummi> Easiest thing would be to restore your
data from backup
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1870[14:55:05] <Guest85903> How?
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1871[14:55:16] <Guest85903> Ah thats a good idea
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1873[14:55:56] <Stummi> since theres no easy fix if you chmod
your whole FS
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1875[14:56:02] <Stummi> recursively
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1879[14:57:41] <Guest85903> I changed hte most persmissions to
root and it seems to run... thanks god that I canceld before it
change my mailserver...
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1880[14:58:18] <Guest85903> For mysql I set the perms back to the
mysql user
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1882[14:59:37] <sypher> Guest85903: No. Rebuild the system.
There's no going back from what you did.
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1883[14:59:38] <Akuw> if there is a running process but i
can't find the log of that process what happen?
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1885[15:00:05] <Guest85903> How to rebuild the system?
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1888[15:00:25] <sypher> Guest85903: Reinstall the OS?
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1889[15:00:35] <Guest85903> omg please not ;(
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1892[15:01:28] <sypher> Guest85903: Recursively chown-ing the
entire tree? Yeah, you basically ruined the system.
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1899[15:02:49] <Guest85903> I found this:
replaced-url
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1900[15:03:15] <Guest85903> But I need a working Debian to create
a "Backup" file
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1901[15:03:32] <Akuw> A process identified by process id 2147 is
running, but its logfile is nowhere to be found. The filesystem is
ext3 and 100MB of space remains. We can assume nothing went wrong in
process 2147. An lsof of process 2147 reveals that the log file is
still open. a. What could have happened to make the log file
disappear? b. Can you access the contents of the file? If so, how?
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1904[15:03:54] <Stummi> Guest85903, as said, just restore your
last backup
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1905[15:04:06] <Stummi> its easier than any hassle to
"fix" what you did
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1906[15:04:27] <Guest85903> I just backup single directorys
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1907[15:04:55] <sypher> Guest85903: Then get to reinstalling.
That's the only proper way to fix this.
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1911[15:06:12] <Guest85903> Shit... for that reason I hate Linux
;(
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1912[15:06:33] <Akuw> is not linux problem
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1913[15:06:36] <sypher> Guest85903: You hate Linux because you
charged in and ran a command without doing any research on what
you're doing and why?
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1914[15:06:40] <Akuw> was you
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1915[15:06:58] <Akuw> read manul first !!!
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1916[15:07:04] <Akuw> *manual
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1917[15:07:17] <Guest85903> It was a typo... i know what the
command is doing but i didnt thought enough before
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1920[15:07:34] <Akuw> then was your fault
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1921[15:07:41] <Guest85903> I know!
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1922[15:07:54] <Akuw> is like you do rm -r /
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1923[15:08:08] <sypher> Guest85903: Then why do you hate Linux
for your screwup? Welcome to sysadmin 101: Know what the command
does before you enter it.
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1925[15:08:25] <Akuw> i can not say I hate linux
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1926[15:08:31] <Guest85903> I hate linux because a typo/single
command can ruin everything
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1928[15:09:23] <Akuw> then in any software when press a button
you can delet things too
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1929[15:09:37] <Akuw> if you don't know how the things work
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1930[15:09:44] <sypher> Guest85903: Yeah, that's not
Linux's problem. You didn't check what you were typing AS
ROOT before pressing enter.
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1931[15:09:54] <Stummi> I think the wrong command in a windows
CMD also can ruin a lot of things
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1932[15:10:02] <sypher> Guest85903: Anyway, this is venturing
into off-topic land. You have your task, get to it.
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1933[15:10:06] <Akuw> remember always "root is
powerfull"
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1934[15:10:23] <Guest85903> To powerfull for me lol
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1935[15:10:30] <Akuw> Stummi: right !!!
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1936[15:10:41] <Guest85903> Ok thx guys...! Ill hang up myself
bye!
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1938[15:10:52] <edoardo> Hahahahaha
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1939[15:10:56] <edoardo> "Hang up myself"
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1971[15:22:23] <Lapis1> hi, what is the name of encryptig tool
that works from gnome file manager and allows to encrypt\decrypt
partition without enetering password? (password is stored somewhere
in the system)
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1992[15:29:08] <Walex> Lapis1: that's a crazy question...
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1995[15:29:46] <Lapis1> Walex: why is it? i encrypted my
partition with something and my system crashed and i dont remember
with what or how to use it again =(
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1997[15:30:27] <Walex> Lapis1: ahhhh, you did express yourself
badly.
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1998[15:30:45] <Walex> Lapis1: that's a different question:
your real problem is to access your data gain.
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2001[15:31:09] <Lapis1> yes, i want to restore the data. but i
guess i need to know the tool name first
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2003[15:31:12] <Walex> Lapis1: the stasndard partition encryption
scheme is LUKS
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2007[15:31:31] <Lapis1> but is there something that uses luks and
gnome for password storage?
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2009[15:31:45] <Walex> Lapis1: it is usually activated from the
command line, at boot, not from GNOME file manager
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2010[15:32:00] <Walex> Lapis1: you are still expressing yourself
badly.
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2011[15:32:14] <Walex> Lapis1: there is no encryption scheme that
does not require a password.
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2013[15:32:50] <Lapis1> okay
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2016[15:33:04] <Walex> Lapis1: what you may be describing is a
scheme where the password called "key" is stored in a file
and the file is not encrypted with a "passphrase"
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2018[15:33:07] <x-ip> hi all
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2022[15:33:46] <glcx> hi
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2023[15:34:06] <Walex> Lapis1: the first thing you should do is
to run the 'blkid' and 'disktype' commands from
the CLI console as 'root', those will tell you in most
cases what's stored in each partition.
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2026[15:34:52] <Walex> Lapis1: as to LUKS, it stores the
encryption key on the disk itself, and it is usually encrypted with
one (or up to 8) passphrases.
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2028[15:35:07] <Lapis1> hm, wait. i guess i made a mistake. if I
can restore files with foremost then its not encryption, right? (its
for undelete files)
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2029[15:35:27] <Walex> Lapis1: you may have told LUKS to not
encrypt the key, which is pointless
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2030[15:35:43] <Walex> Lapis1: indeed, but I think you are
confused.
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2032[15:35:49] <goiken> Any hints on debugging
monitor-configurations? I was using two just fine until yesterday,
when some game froze and forced me into a cold reboot. not the
second monitor isn’t recognized any more.
replaced-url
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2033[15:35:53] <Walex> Lapis1: in the sense of unfamiliar.
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2034[15:36:24] <Walex> Lapis1: there is another encryption
scheme, eCryptFs, that encrypts not partitions but individual files
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2035[15:36:31] <Walex> Lapis1: maybe you are using that.
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2038[15:37:08] <Walex> Lapis1: that might explain your impression
that somehow GNOME file manager is involved.
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2039[15:37:24] <Lapis1> Walex: no its a partition for sure. but i
guess i just deleted files, and story with encryption is unrelated
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2040[15:37:44] <Walex> Lapis1: check this anyhow:
replaced-url
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2041[15:38:04] <Walex> Lapis1: so use 'blkid' to be
sure...
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2045[15:38:50] <rozie> goiken: did you unplug and plug againg?
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2046[15:39:03] <goiken> rozie sure
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2047[15:39:09] <rozie> I usually use arandr
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2048[15:39:56] <rozie> but if xrandr does not recognize the
second monitor, neither will arandr
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2050[15:41:52] <goiken> when I unplug and plug again, the monitor
reacts briefly. I guess there is power on the plug, but no signal.
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2059[15:45:13] <jhutchins> goiken: What logs have you checked?
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2079[15:49:20] <goiken> jhutchins xorg-log might be relevant:
replaced-url
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2088[15:52:45] <goiken> here’s the full log
replaced-url
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2089[15:52:53] <Caterpillar> Hi, I just enabled https to securely
access the website I am maintaining. Now I have been told by my boss
to use mod_alias to redirect all http traffic to https. I am
studying
replaced-url
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2092[15:54:46] <goiken> Caterpillar here’s what I am using:
replaced-url
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2094[15:55:16] <Caterpillar> goiken: putted in which file?
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2096[15:55:30] <goiken> Caterpillar .htaccess
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2105[15:56:33] <Caterpillar> goiken: I have 3 files: /var/replaced-url
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2108[15:56:58] <fernie> yes mod_rewrite is what I have always
used for the task
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2111[15:58:16] <goiken> Caterpillar I use it in my
website’s root-directory.
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2113[15:59:13] <Caterpillar> goiken: ok so which one between
/var/replaced-url
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2114[15:59:32] <Caterpillar> it should be /var/replaced-url
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2115[15:59:38] <Caterpillar> as far I see from cat
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2116[16:00:49] <goiken> Caterpillar not sure, if I understand
your setup. Where’s the index.{html|php} that I would get when
I request your domain?
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2118[16:03:02] <rozie> Caterpillar: just for https apache rewrite
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2119[16:03:08] <rozie> Caterpillar: just google for https apache
rewrite
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2120[16:03:43] <Caterpillar> goiken: /var/replaced-url
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2121[16:03:44] <Caterpillar> rozie: ok
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2125[16:04:11] <goiken> Caterpillar then I’d try /var/replaced-url
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2126[16:04:12] <Caterpillar> rozie: I get the same results I am
already reading
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2127[16:04:12] <rozie>
replaced-url
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2130[16:05:31] <rozie> also
replaced-url
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2143[16:11:52] <Caterpillar> [16:05] <rozie> also
replaced-url
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2144[16:12:06] <Caterpillar> does not work, now I put on pastebin
the affected file
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2147[16:13:36] <Caterpillar> rozie:
replaced-url
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2227[16:47:17] <slbtc> sorry I had to go yesterday. is anyone
here who was helping me last time?
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2228[16:47:30] <slbtc> I'm still experiencing sound issues
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2232[16:49:25] <greycat> This is the part where you describe the
issues, and what you've already tried that has not worked.
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2254[16:58:24] <Caterpillar> ok I solved!
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2256[16:58:47] <Caterpillar> I had to create the .htaccess file
into website root and edit AllowOverride into apache.conf
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2264[17:01:43] <LAL> hello guys, Is there any separate channel
for bug handling ?
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2265[17:02:06] <johnkeates> no, but there are mailing lists and
bug trackers and there's the report bug tool
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2266[17:02:13] <Lapis1> could somebody help me with ecryptfs? my
system collapsed but I still have all the files and encrypted
partition where I cant take files untill I decrypt it. where should
I look for a password for ecryptfs? i think it is stored somewhere
in the system
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2272[17:05:16] <jhutchins> Lapis1: Let me make a wild guess: you
do not have an unencrypted backup, right?
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2273[17:05:44] <Lapis1> jhutchins: wow, you are a psychic ! =)
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2274[17:05:46] <greycat> I am confoos. User wanted an encrypted
disk so nobody can read it, and now he's trying to read it and
can't because it's encrypted?
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2277[17:07:09] <sypher> Functions as designed.
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2278[17:07:41] <Lapis1> greycat: yep. exactly =) i know how
stupid it was, but i want my files back..
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2280[17:07:58] <jhutchins> See also: deleting files on ext.
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2283[17:08:39] <Lapis1> jhutchins: i think i did delete files
from inside incrypted container =) so to restore them I need to
decrypt it first
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2316[17:20:36] <unborn> Lapis1: sorry but what is exactly your
issue ? - i do somehow missed your question here.. right Ive got is
useless answer about nothing
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2320[17:21:14] <greycat> He has an encrypted disk that he claims
is his, and he does not know the password to decrypt it, and now he
wants to know the password.
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2322[17:21:24] <unborn> oh you did delete some encrypted stuff
without backup and now you want them back.. right - we cannot help
you with that?
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2324[17:21:41] <Lapis1> i do have the system that did run this
ecryptfs and i think password is in the system somewhere
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2325[17:21:50] <unborn> greycat: we - been here so many times..
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2326[17:21:53] <zinx> Lapis1: assuming you encrypted it properly,
the solution is to remember your password. there is no other
solution.
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2328[17:22:13] <greycat> What makes you think the password is
"in the system somewhere"?
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2330[17:22:27] <greycat> And why is it no longer working?
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2331[17:22:38] <Lapis1> zinx: i did use gnome to store the
password. there was 2 password, one is mine (short) and second is
system´s, very long one, system did show it to me but I
ignored it.
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2333[17:23:04] <zinx> Lapis1: does gnome no longer have the
password?
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2335[17:23:40] <Lapis1> zinx i dont know where to look
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2336[17:23:42] <zinx> Lapis1: it would have to be listed in fstab
if it's mounted
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2338[17:23:45] <sypher> "but I ignored it"
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2339[17:24:03] <Lapis1> sypher: it did work without knowing this
long password =(
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2340[17:24:15] <greycat> Why has it stopped working?
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2341[17:24:21] <sypher> Until now. It's called recovery. Do
you think it showed that to you for fun?
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2343[17:24:36] <Lapis1> i dont remember. i broke something in a
system and reinstalled it on top. so programms dissapear but files
are still there
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2345[17:24:50] <greycat> "And I don't know what I
did."
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2346[17:25:09] <Lapis1> well, i did reinstall the system =) thats
what I remember
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2347[17:25:29] <greycat> If you fully reinstalled the whole
system, there is nothing left to recover.
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2348[17:25:33] <Lapis1> i was playing with kernels and grub at
that time. possibly that. its my very old system
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2350[17:25:34] <unborn> well.. :) i got your msg :) and I am glad
it finally merged into this..
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2352[17:26:00] <Lapis1> greycat i didnt reinstall it with
formatting. just ¨on top¨ so previous files are there too
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2356[17:26:16] <Lapis1> without formatting *
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2361[17:28:38] <awal1> slbtc, with your hdmi stuff plugged what
output you get running "pacmd list-cards"?
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2370[17:33:10] <awal1> also aplay -l
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2380[17:38:37] <unborn> Lapis1: what are you asking?
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2381[17:40:45] <unborn> greycat: Lapis1 are you asking that if
you do thing a then all other things would be a-other-things? or -
perhaps I do not understand - the thing is - if you install the
package - it will do the thing you need - and that is end of the
story..
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2382[17:41:49] <unborn> Lapis1: regards the formatting - I think
that is the issue of the package you are on about.. not an debian
issue.
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2384[17:42:31] <unborn> ..perhaps I am wrong - can anyone tell me
if I am wrong?>
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2385[17:42:51] <greycat> I can't even guess what you're
*saying*. It's so mangled that it no longer resembles human
speech.
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2386[17:43:21] <unborn> - thank you for warning..
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2388[17:44:35] <stardancer> <sypher> "but I ignored
it"
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2389[17:44:39] <stardancer> that cracked me up
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2392[17:44:55] <stardancer> when a sysadmin hears that, they want
to punt you in the crotch
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2395[17:45:45] <unborn> stardancer: crotch is not enough - we are
all sys...
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2396[17:46:33] <paul0897> hello all
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2397[17:46:45] <stardancer> we certainly are
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2398[17:46:59] <stardancer> how many times do i have to tell you
to do the thing i just told you to do?
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2399[17:47:15] <stardancer> and why do you keep coming back to me
with problems related to "i dont know the password"
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2400[17:47:28] <stardancer> one of those day-in, day-out smdh
things
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2401[17:47:50] <unborn> stardancer: well if that was for me - you
dont - I am free as we are all :)
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2403[17:48:09] <stardancer> they say they forget the passwords
because we make them too complicated. but then they wonder why they
got owned every time password1234 is the password
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2406[17:48:58] <unborn> im not great sysadmin any more.. im old
and my moody mumbless no one like any more.. prehaps its good thing
to go to sturbucs :)
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2407[17:49:01] <stardancer> it's for buddy asking for help
decrypting a disk that is supposedly his, seeing that "i
ignored it" thing was just absolute hilarity
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2408[17:49:26] <stardancer> i cant parse what youre saying about
starbucks
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2409[17:49:29] <stardancer> or much else
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2410[17:50:07] <unborn> stardancer: listen I will gladly forgot
password - im not your mum to tell you what it is :) and I will do
turn my phone off in friday night - how great you feel about it :D
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2411[17:50:20] <stardancer> ahhh yes, that's me too
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2412[17:50:32] <stardancer> but that makes people in the office
say "that person is a dickhead"
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2413[17:50:46] <stardancer> the worst is when they think sysadmin
means tech support
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2414[17:50:54] <stardancer> and they hae a bunch of fucking apple
computers
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2415[17:51:04] <unborn> stardancer: im real - i do start it out
there in monday - coz I would be glad to forgot - idiots who do not
remember passwords :D
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2416[17:51:32] <stardancer> even if you give them a 40 minute
presentation on ways to come up with passwords
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2417[17:51:36] <stardancer> theyll still be fucking idiots about
it
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2418[17:51:53] <stardancer> as for the encrypted disk, lolllllll
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2419[17:52:03] <unborn> doing coffee and over the nights and
weekends do some fair play hacks - for serious people - it sounds
great to me stardancer :)
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2420[17:52:16] <stardancer> if the password was somewhere in the
system, that wouldnt be very smart now would it
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2421[17:52:53] <stardancer> unborn, i think it honestly depends
on the company you work for more than anything to do with the
systems youre working with
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2422[17:53:07] <stardancer> sysadmin has to expect to be a kind
of customer service guru
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2423[17:53:21] <unborn> stardancer: you have no idea who and what
we do here - all you know is what you been told to read - I do not
use disk whahabaha :) but yet - im somewhere else you are.. :)
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2424[17:53:42] <stardancer> im not talking about you, jesus
christ
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2425[17:54:08] <stardancer> <Lapis1> sypher: it did work
without knowing this long password =(
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2426[17:54:27] <unborn> stardancer: i am here for my self - doing
most for free.. for more than 9 years - yet most of the times I have
back as good will mute - or ban - when I am tired of idiocy..
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2429[17:55:08] <unborn> nova days I do ask for to be muted - I do
understand - its idiotic and pathetic but - see your self out
there..
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2430[17:55:10] <stardancer> bro
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2432[17:55:16] <stardancer> im not talking about you
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2433[17:55:24] <stardancer> i can hardly make sense of your
english
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2434[17:55:33] <stardancer> im lost
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2436[17:55:56] <unborn> stardancer okay i had my minute of my
tears out.. you know there is something like ignore right :) have
good rest of the week
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2437[17:56:11] * unborn sorry folks - had my own minute again..
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2438[17:56:14] <stardancer> ESL is thatta way, buddy
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2439[17:56:27] <stardancer> "i had my minute of my tears
out"
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2440[17:56:36] <stardancer> that's like poetry, i dont
understand it at all
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2445[17:57:25] <unborn> stardancer: be star - if you one of us
sysadmins - support others with debian related issues. end of the
story :) just do it.
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2446[17:57:45] <unborn> {code is poetry!}
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2447[17:57:57] <greycat> We can't support the guy who lost
his password to his encrytped
whatever-the-hell-disk-file-partition-he-didn't-say. There is
nothing we can do.
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2448[17:58:08] <stardancer> and even if we COULD
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2449[17:58:15] <stardancer> it would be amazingly dumb and
unethical
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2450[17:58:28] <stardancer> hi, i'll help you break into
that guy's house while we're at it
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2451[17:58:44] <greycat> 11:21 greycat> He has an encrypted
disk that he claims is his [...]
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2452[17:58:51] <stardancer> sysadmins support the people on their
networks
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2453[17:59:10] <stardancer> or systems
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2454[17:59:20] <stardancer> usually ends up being networks :(
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2456[17:59:38] * unborn thanks folks for having me
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2459[17:59:48] <stardancer> i have a pink stress ball that im
going to chuck at someone
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2469[18:02:50] <goiken> Reiterating an earlier Question on
monitor-config’s: I was using two just fine until yesterday,
when some game froze and forced me into a cold reboot. Now the
second monitor isn’t recognized any more. Here’s some
possibly relevant output
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2470[18:03:08] <greycat> Woo! My irssi de-curler script worked!
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2474[18:04:41] <alchemista> hola a todos
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2495[18:09:28] <stoned> Is there a hw list of blue tooth speakers
that work in linux bt driver stack with compatible drivers etc
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2496[18:09:29] <stoned> ?
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2497[18:09:38] <stoned> I need a speaker whose tooth is blue
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2499[18:10:24] <stoned> greycat: I switched to weechat.
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2501[18:10:33] <stoned> greycat: irssi is a bit primitive.
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2502[18:10:41] <greycat> So am I.
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2503[18:10:47] <stoned> :)
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2504[18:11:12] <stoned> What happened to simonrvn?
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2506[18:11:24] <stoned> Is he still about? I would like to speak
with him, if you know.
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2508[18:11:37] <stoned> It's been almost 7 years now.
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2509[18:11:41] <greycat> He shows up sometimes. Not as often as
he used to.
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2511[18:11:58] <stoned> Oh then I can still memo him. Fantastic
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2515[18:14:06] <unborn> that is just ulgy to open source...
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2523[18:15:49] <teraflops> unborn: thewat is just ugly?
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2524[18:16:25] <unborn> teraflops: I thing you do read my msg
correctly.
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2526[18:16:46] <unborn> - if not im sorry.
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message is up in the buffer I didn't read it
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2542[18:20:25] <unborn> teraflops: oh sorry then.. well it was
just my mind speaking out there a loud - i thing you got your
bouncer if not - then perhaps i said it as I did feel it. sorry.
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2543[18:20:49] <teraflops> ah, np
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2544[18:20:51] <greycat> I still don't know which thing
unborn is calling "ugly to open source".
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2545[18:20:56] <unborn> basically - sorry I said it.
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2549[18:21:40] <stardancer> i feel like this is some kind of
language comprehension troll
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2553[18:22:38] <unborn> stardancer: of course.. im sorry to make
you feel like that - how can I or we could help you with your debian
issue??
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2554[18:22:39] <teraflops> stardancer: oh stop using the troll
word randomly it's annoying
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2559[18:24:11] <awal1> goiken, your second monitor is detected
durring boot and not in X or not detected at all?
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2562[18:25:08] <unborn> stardancer: just ask..
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2563[18:25:16] <zino> hello, can sombody help me with my ath5k
probleme (when the syste
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2564[18:25:43] <goiken> awal1 how can I tell?
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2565[18:25:52] <unborn> zino: you need the driver for your wifi?
are you on jessie? can you confirm that?
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2566[18:26:00] <awal1> goiken, how you can tell?
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2567[18:26:05] <zino> system start and i log in no wifi can be
detected until i do (rmmmod ath5k and press switch button then
modprob ath5k)
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2568[18:26:29] <teraflops> zino: press switch button?
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2569[18:26:43] <goiken> I suppose it’s not detected at any
stage… but it might still be in a nonobvious way.
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2571[18:26:53] <greycat> And the ellipsis too! Yay!
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2572[18:27:17] <teraflops> it's a kind of hw button for the
wifi?
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2573[18:27:20] <awal1> goiken, well, if detected at boot time you
see some boot messages in both monitors (primary and extra one)
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2574[18:27:56] <zino> jessie, i have a compaq cq60 with a wifi
switch button on top (push button)
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2577[18:28:06] <goiken> awal1 well I don’t (and never did,
even back when it was working. only had boot messages on one
monitor)
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2580[18:29:03] <awal1> goiken, if you switch to Console (ttyX) do
you see any output in the second monitor? (if detected, you should
get same output in both)
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2581[18:29:18] <teraflops> zino: next time try `rfkill list`
before doing the rmmod thing
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2582[18:29:32] <goiken> awal1 nope
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2586[18:29:54] <unborn> zino: that should work after you
installed nonfree drivers - then just reboot and then fn+ fnumber
for your wifi.. and wifi should get up :)
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2588[18:30:33] <awal1> goiken, it's easy to manage extra
monitors in X, but if not detected at all (not detected at boot
time), so sorry, I don't know what to tell you...
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2590[18:30:52] <unborn> can you paste your lspci somewhere?
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2591[18:30:56] <unborn> zino ^^^
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2592[18:31:03] <jhutchins> !ath5k
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2593[18:31:03] <dpkg> ath5k is a completely free (no proprietary
HAL) Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCIe 802.11a/bg wireless LAN
devices with Atheros chips. It does not require firmware from
userspace. See
replaced-url
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2595[18:31:13] <zino> teraflops: in the rfkill i get hard
blocked, so when i do the trick (sw on>off ath5k) i get hard
block off
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2597[18:31:27] <teraflops> zino: yeah
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2599[18:31:51] <jhutchins> zino: I would check the BIOS and see
if there's anything that refers to the wifi being off at boot.
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2600[18:31:55] <awal1> goiken, which DE/WM you run?
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2602[18:32:13] <goiken> awal1 what?
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2604[18:32:25] <teraflops> zino: also do you do dual boot with
widows there?
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2607[18:32:37] <unborn> zino yeah that is right - teraflops just
told you how to unlock it.. but I am afraid you still have to reboot
to see the effect :/
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2608[18:32:44] <goiken> awal1 ahh… mate
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2610[18:33:08] <goiken> awal1 MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.1, to
be precise.
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2612[18:33:33] * greycat waits eagerly to see what other UTF-8 crap
will be spewed in my direction, to see if I need to make any more
adjustments to my script
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2614[18:33:56] <teraflops> zino: you can unblock with rfkill too,
but I'm curious about the dual booting question I did
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2617[18:34:24] <unborn> greycat: we - i mean some of us dont even
know :) so be prepared for a - fart ;)
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2619[18:35:06] <awal1> goiken, can you paste the output of xrandr
? just xrandr, no option/arguments... (paste.debian.net)
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2620[18:35:08] <zino> sorry
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2621[18:35:19] <teraflops> greycat: are you in tty or Xorg?
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2622[18:35:23] <teraflops> greycat: nvm 🐈 😺 😸 😹 😻 😼 😽 🙀
😿 😾 🐱 🐈
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2624[18:35:41] <goiken> awal1 it’s included in the paste
above
replaced-url
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2625[18:35:45] <teraflops> zino: why sorry?
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2626[18:35:58] <greycat> teraflops: I am in irssi in rxvt in
HP-UX 10.20, pure Latin-1, not Win1252, *definitely* not UTF-8.
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2627[18:35:59] <goiken> awal1 third… sorry.
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2628[18:36:11] <zino> jhutchins: i have remarqed that after
shuting down the pc and starting windows i get my card dissabled
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2630[18:36:13] <teraflops> greycat: holly cow
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2631[18:36:14] <unborn> teraflops: he would be fine just to the
point he will disable wifi on windows - the thing is due to wifi
reads - and drivers how they behave - if he disable this in windows
he would be off in linux.
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2632[18:36:17] <teraflops> holy*
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2633[18:36:19] <greycat> teraflops: add "in screen",
forgot that part.
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2637[18:37:15] <zino> teraflops: after using the dual boot i have
to reactivate my card on windows
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2638[18:37:36] <teraflops> zino: you get the card blocked because
you do dual boot, also it looks like you answer the questions to the
wrong nick :P
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2640[18:38:12] <teraflops> zino: yeah that's why I asked
because it is a common issue
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2641[18:38:20] <unborn> greycat: you seems to like foopas last
time here :) if you would like us to debug - just say so - we would
be happy to provide some feedback ;)
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2643[18:38:39] <awal1> goiken, as second monitor you was refering
to your hdmi or dvi ?
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2644[18:38:49] <goiken> awal1 hdmi
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2651[18:40:11] <teraflops> greycat: can yo do the decode encode
magic per buffer or just by default in irssi?
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2653[18:40:36] <greycat> You mean per channel? Or what do you
mean by buffer?
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2654[18:40:48] <unborn> teraflops: since its all depend on
terminal - you should be able to :)
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2658[18:41:17] <teraflops> greycat: buffer i guess channel is the
same
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2659[18:41:27] <unborn> greycat: he means possibly per chan but -
lets be realistic - anywhere :)
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2662[18:41:37] <teraflops> #debian in a buffer for me
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2664[18:41:45] <zino> does a solution exist, to fix that card
stat on starting (nothing in the bios about wifi card)
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2665[18:41:47] <greycat> teraflops: the internal recoding is
global (all channels), but you can write perl scripts to do things.
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2666[18:41:51] <teraflops> is* sorry
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2668[18:42:03] <unborn> yay :D
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2669[18:42:07] <teraflops> greycat: oh weechat can do it per
buffer too
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2671[18:42:44] * unborn - does not understand the weeT-chat
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2672[18:43:05] <teraflops> greycat: as in /charset whatever in
the buffer e.g here in #debian
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2674[18:43:16] <unborn> but feel free to install hexachat ;)
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2675[18:43:35] <awal1> goiken, just trying a basic stuff . try
executing xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto --right-of VGA-0 --output
VGA-0 --auto --rate 60.00
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2676[18:43:37] <teraflops> heh hexachat is a chat⁶
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2678[18:43:51] * greycat goes to look up what 2076 is
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2679[18:43:51] <unborn> yeah.. just install that and stop asking
;)
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2681[18:44:30] <greycat> "superscript six"? Ugh... I
suppose there are 9 more of them too?
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2682[18:44:39] <unborn> or go with irssi.. and stop asking at
all..
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2685[18:45:10] <goiken> awal1 no reaction or output.
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2686[18:45:26] <zino> to All: ok that will train me taping on
keybord faster for a [while True] (loop). thx 4 all, bye.
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2688[18:45:44] <awal1> goiken, nothing changes when you play with
configs in mate system settings-display?
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2690[18:46:20] <unborn> goiken: heh its been a while does awail1
give valuable output to your questions? I did put hat user to ignore
list in while ago...
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2691[18:46:22] <goiken> awal1 I don’t see the second
monitor there, so not really. I can play with the resolution of the
working one, though.
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2692[18:46:26] <greycat> I don't think I will gain much by
hard-coding u2076 et al in my script... will just ignore for now.
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2693[18:46:37] <teraflops> hmm theres no rfkill-unblock unit file
in jessie?
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2695[18:47:09] <unborn> teraflops: it should not be.. it ubuntu
thingy..
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2696[18:47:19] <awal1> goiken, the problem I think is find out
why your second monitor isn't detected at all since boot
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2697[18:47:22] <teraflops> unborn: not only ubuntu
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2699[18:47:33] <goiken> unborn y… some suggestions which I
assume are in good faith, but nothing that’s working until
now.
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2700[18:48:07] <stoned> To assume that xrandr is enabled by
default is silly
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2702[18:48:28] <stoned> Because I hate Xrandr
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2703[18:48:37] <teraflops> it's handy, as in zino situation,
I wonder if a pre-up line with the rfkill unblock all on /e/n/i
wouls work too
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2704[18:48:39] <stoned> Why you ask? Well, because it
doesn't work with Xinerama.
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2705[18:48:41] <goiken> awal1 how?
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2706[18:48:44] <unborn> teraflops: i did not say its only the
ubuntu thingy but - most of then comes here for it.. and most of the
times it does not work
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2707[18:48:46] <teraflops> would*
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2709[18:48:54] <stoned> I have 6 monitors across 3 gpus
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2711[18:48:59] <stoned> Xrandr is fail.
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2712[18:49:33] <stoned> The only way to stitch together 3 gpu is
xinerama. xrandr only handles the primary gpu.
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2713[18:49:40] <stoned> the other two don't even show up
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2714[18:49:46] <stoned> anyway. *brb*
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2716[18:49:48] <teraflops> xinerama … good luck
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2717[18:49:56] <unborn> goiken: i put that user on ignore for
some reason and so far you do improved my decision :) its all good.
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2719[18:50:18] <awal1> unborn, again with me?
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2720[18:50:19] <awal1> omg
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2721[18:50:25] <teraflops> if you like slow as hell and
slowmotion-like it'd be fine :S
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2730[18:52:41] <slbtc> my sound is still refusing to work all
I'm trying to do is get my headphones to work with sound.
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2732[18:52:54] <unborn> teraflops: he indeed make things more
difficult then shorter in a time :) so fuck *im.
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2734[18:53:10] <missmbob> c'mon. enough
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2735[18:53:28] <unborn> missmbob: thanks :)
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2736[18:53:40] <teraflops> unborn: I was talking about xinerama ^
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2737[18:53:42] <awal1> goiken, I dont know how to debug such
thing (monitor not detected at boot time)
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2738[18:53:44] <teraflops> heh
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2741[18:54:19] <unborn> yeah I named you in wrong way - you know
what I mean. im sorry about that
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2742[18:54:53] <awal1> maybe the gyu suffering
solitude/lonesomeness, living in the woods with rabbits may help
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2743[18:55:16] <unborn> any - one = since I cannot found the
origin user = he indeed make things more difficult then shorter in a
time :) so fuck *im.
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2744[18:55:45] <goiken> awal1 well, thx for trying though
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2745[18:56:01] <awal1> goike, np
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2758[19:01:26] <unborn> awall1 - how long it will take you to
realize that you barging on wrong part of tree. how long? - if you
do use google then - I feel you...
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2760[19:01:52] <unborn> im going to tmp remove you from ignore..
just moment
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2761[19:01:58] <awal1> unborn vs markybob :D
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2762[19:02:21] <unborn> I can read you :)
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2763[19:03:20] <unborn> - I am an alone here - sysadmins where
are you gone?
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2764[19:03:34] <TomTomTo1> are you having your daily mental
breakdown again?
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2766[19:03:40] <missmbob> TomTomTo1: yes
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2775[19:09:29] <unborn> TomTomTo1: i was about to write you long
bollox message - nah I am completely okay - that message was for me
right?
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2777[19:09:42] <unborn> well if that makes you happy do it for
last time.
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2778[19:09:51] <unborn> I will be gone.
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2779[19:10:27] <unborn> menthal issue? TomTomTo1 im in eu.. not
usa.. - wake up.
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2781[19:10:53] <unborn> exit
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2783[19:11:57] <unborn> yay.. well TomTomTo1 you know what - I am
debiam amater - and as anyone else we need help - I am hoping so you
and your pro - whatever you calling will help me..
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2784[19:12:27] <unborn> greycat: - can you mute me for 72 hours
please?
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2785[19:12:33] <unborn> thanks
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2808[19:21:39] <jmss> Hi, which package contains the kernel? I
can't find any package with dpkg -l with "linux" or
"kernel" in the name.
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2809[19:22:17] <greycat> Are you on a VPS?
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2811[19:22:38] <jmss> greycat: me?
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2812[19:22:41] <greycat> You.
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2813[19:22:46] <TomTomTo1> jmss: dpkg -l linux-image*
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2814[19:22:52] <jmss> what is a VPS?
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2816[19:23:05] <greycat> uname -a would also be helpful at this
point
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2817[19:23:29] <jmss> TomTomTo1: no occurrences
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2819[19:24:07] <jmss> greycat: Linux lime 3.4.90+ #3 PREEMPT Tue
Jun 10 09:17:04 EEST 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
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2820[19:24:15] <awal1> jmss, dpkg -l | grep linux-image*
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2821[19:24:34] <greycat> You aren't using a Debian kernel.
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2822[19:24:35] <jmss> awal1: empty result
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2823[19:25:12] <jmss> I was dist-upgrading but got a conflict
between udev/kernel
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2824[19:25:13] <greycat> It *might* be some kind of VPS with
which I'm not familiar (it's not OpenVZ), which would
explain why you are not using a Debian kernel and do not have any
kernel images installed.
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2825[19:25:15] <jmss> -f does not solve
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2826[19:25:40] <jmss> it's on an ARM single-board computer,
if it matters
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2829[19:26:18] <jmss> greycat: it's not virtual, it's
in a board
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2835[19:27:03] <jmss> is it possible that the conflict removed
the kernel package?
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2837[19:27:10] <greycat> Of course another possible reason is
that you're simply not running Debian.
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2839[19:27:19] <TomTomTo1> so it's an image that you got
from their website. most boards use a modified kernel.
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2840[19:27:30] <jmss> greycat: # cat /etc/issue
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2841[19:27:30] <jmss> Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
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2842[19:27:49] <jmss> TomTomTo1: yes, from Olimex
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2845[19:28:44] <jmss> what is the name of the process of the
kernel? init?
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2846[19:28:54] <greycat> It's not a process.
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2848[19:29:04] <greycat> Look for images in /boot or in /
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2854[19:30:08] <jmss> a bin boot Desktop dev etc home leds-sunxi
ledtrig-heartbeat lib lost+found media mnt opt proc root run sbin
srv sys tmp usr var
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2856[19:30:27] <jmss> the /boot is empty
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2861[19:30:50] <Fahrradkette> greetings everybody
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2862[19:31:22] <TomTomTo1> hmm.. that one uses uboot.
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2871[19:32:40] <jmss> TomTomTo1: yes, I think so
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2872[19:32:43] <Fahrradkette> I'm trying to get a pyhton3
version odfpy on my jessie installation. Since the jessie packet
only contains python2 I wanted to get it using pip
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2873[19:32:54] <Fahrradkette> but there is no pip3, is that
correct?
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2874[19:32:56] <cableninja> hey guys, I'm having problems
getting a system to auth via AD. I was able to get 2 others done,
but this one is not working. I followed this guide
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2878[19:33:42] <missmbob> Fahrradkette: pip3 is in python3-pip
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2879[19:33:53] <Fahrradkette> missmbob: thank you very much:)
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2882[19:34:08] <TomTomTo1> jmss: looks like they use the 3.4
kernel with all their releases, so you will have to stick with it.
it's not official debian that you are running.
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2883[19:34:40] <jmss> TomTomTo1: so it means I should not run
dist-upgrade, right?
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2886[19:35:48] <TomTomTo1> jmss: you are trying to switch to
testing/unstable?
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2887[19:36:06] <jmss> TomTomTo1: no, just trying a normal update
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2888[19:36:46] <jmss> I wish to stay on stable
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2891[19:37:14] <TomTomTo1> jmss: should be fine.
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2894[19:37:53] <jmss> let me paste in a site the result of
dist-upgrade
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2902[19:41:53] <nickench1> hello debianonians
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2903[19:42:23] <TomTomTo1> onions?
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2904[19:42:37] <nickench1> or whatever
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2905[19:42:41] <TomTomTo1> :)
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2908[19:45:36] <TomTomTo1> jmss: the usual way to upgrade debian
stable is apt get update; apt-get upgrade; dependencies rarely
change for dist-upgrade to be needed.
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2909[19:46:05] <jmss>
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2910[19:46:20] <jmss> TomTomTo1: ok, i'll try upgrade now
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2911[19:46:58] <TomTomTo1> oh, you went through with it D:
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2920[19:48:27] <missmbob> i hope you have a backup.
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2922[19:49:27] <missmbob> hard to believe a simple in-release
upgrade would give you so many new packages to be installed (not
upgraded)
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2924[19:49:50] <jmss> TomTomTo1: upgrade also shows the udev
error
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2925[19:50:23] <jmss> missmbob: this is a testing board, no need
for backup
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2926[19:50:35] <greycat> Put the touchy ones on hold, then.
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2928[19:50:39] <greycat> !hold
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2929[19:50:39] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the
package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a
package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or
'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude
hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update
Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use
holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See
also <hold list>, <unhold>.
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2930[19:50:43] <TomTomTo1> jmss: they have a newer image on their
site that you might want to try.
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2932[19:50:50] <jmss> I think I successfully did an upgrade some
weeks ago
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2933[19:51:23] <jmss> TomTomTo1: let me check
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2934[19:51:37] <TomTomTo1> "kernel 3.4.103+"
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2937[19:52:35] <TomTomTo1> it looks like they changed more than
only the bootloader and kernel.
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2942[19:53:22] <jmss> I think I'm using the latest one:
a10_Lime_debian_3.4.90_release_3.img
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2944[19:53:48] <TomTomTo1>
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2945[19:53:56] <jmss> it has to be one for this specific board,
because of the hardware
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2948[19:54:50] <jmss> what is strange for me is that upgrade or
dist-upgrade are not self-consistent
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2952[19:55:32] <greycat> You're using a Debian Derivative.
It may not have a name. It may not INDICATE that it is a derivative.
But it is. That's why nothing is working.
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2955[19:57:34] <jmss> greycat: OK, maybe they didn't predict
that udev could change and become incompatible with the kernel
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2957[19:57:50] <greycat> Maybe they didn't care.
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2958[19:57:53] <jmss> :)
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2960[19:58:20] <jmss> thanks for the hints
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2972[20:02:19] <CtrlC> What is exactly the type of ssh keys?
Symmetric key? Public key?
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2974[20:02:31] <greycat> Asymmetric public/private key pairs.
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2975[20:02:44] <greycat> There are several distinct types. The
default type is RSA.
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2980[20:03:27] <CtrlC> so it is public type. Thanks.
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3001[20:09:42] <shellclear> hi fellows, does someone know what
gonna happend if I build a raid1 device with three disks?
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3002[20:09:57] <greycat> You have a 3-disk RAID1 set. Two
redundancy disks.
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3007[20:10:58] <shellclear> greycat: will blocks to be writen at
the same time in all disks?
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3009[20:11:03] <greycat> yes
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3011[20:11:36] <shellclear> and if do I add a fourth disk?
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3013[20:11:54] <greycat> Then we'll wonder why you're
wasting your disks.
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3015[20:12:16] <greycat> But hey, if you want to use 4 disks to
hold 1 disk worth of data with 3 fully redundant copies, that's
your business.
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3016[20:12:16] <shellclear> hahahah
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3017[20:12:43] <rhizome> so many hotspares. bounty!
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3019[20:13:13] <shellclear> i'm study raid devices. so, this
it's a question that I have
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3024[20:13:57] <missmbob> honestly wikipedia's raid page is
pretty good for thatreplaced-url
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3025[20:13:59] <greycat> Usually if you have 4 disks to devote to
a single RAID set, you use RAID5 or something along those lines.
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3026[20:14:03] <rhizome> /r/datahoarder though they're often
zfs acolytes
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3028[20:14:18] <shellclear> because all docs say the same
thing... raid1 it's a mirror device but they don't talk
about raid1 with three or more devices...
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3029[20:14:28] <greycat> Because nobody does that.
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3030[20:14:37] <missmbob> shellclear: that's because
it's dumb. you do raid 5
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3031[20:14:38] <rhizome> because raid 1 is a two-node technology
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3032[20:14:41] <cableninja> anyone had any experience setting up
AD auth using this guide?
replaced-url
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3033[20:14:46] <greycat> If you have a 3-disk RAID5 set, then you
hold 2 disks worth of data with 1 redundant disk.
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3035[20:15:13] <shaleh> I am trying to do a preseed automated
install. The preseed is to be retrieved over http. When I boot the
system I am still getting a menu. How do i verify the file was
downloaded? I looked in syslog and there is no error but no
confirmation either.
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3036[20:15:32] <shaleh> the installer docs online do not talk
much about debugging failures
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3040[20:16:41] <shellclear> ok guys... but I think my question is
over. :D if I have three disks the block will be replicated to all
disks
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3042[20:16:53] <greycat> In RAID1. Yes.
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3045[20:17:17] <shellclear> greycat: Thanks!!
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3046[20:17:39] <Sayona> Hi, is any solution to use
domainx.hopto.org insted of ip in iptables to allow using mysql
remotly?
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3047[20:17:50] <shellclear> cableninja: missmbob
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3048[20:17:55] <shellclear> that to you
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3049[20:17:56] <Rambler44> So, my device crashed and unlucky for
me the drive got corrputed and I received a bunch of kernel errors
trying to boot (unable to access computer even directly). But I
decided to just reinstall the OS as I found it easier than trying to
find out if I had lost any crucial files.
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3051[20:17:58] <shellclear> thanks
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3053[20:18:17] <Rambler44> Thing is, I need updated nginx and a
few other things since some modules are only available in the newer
versions for example h2
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3055[20:18:30] <Rambler44> So I have a chroot install of stretch
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3057[20:19:22] <Rambler44> I have no idea ifmy bind mounts there
or the unecessary use of chroot is a layer I should get rid of, but
if I try to install stretch packaged on jessie I'd get horrible
dependency issues right?
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3058[20:19:43] <CQ> hello, if I want to raid an entire system
(new installation), do I need a non-raided boot partition? I would
assume so, right?
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3059[20:19:46] <greycat> Rambler44: right.
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3062[20:20:09] <Rambler44> So the most logical option would be to
setup another chroot?
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3064[20:20:13] <Rambler44> I am aware something other exists now
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3066[20:20:26] <Rambler44> systemd-nspawn?
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3073[20:21:16] <Rambler44> It might be it would just add more
overhead as the only thing necessary is the few packages running in
the chroot
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3077[20:22:52] <teraflops> Rambler44: yep
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3098[20:28:31] <Sayona> Hi, i need a solution for my backup plan.
I have 1 vps and 1 linux at home. At home don't have ip static.
And I want to use mysqldump from linux to backup db ...
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3099[20:28:53] <greycat> Initiate the backup *from* the home
computer, since it's dynamic.
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3101[20:29:02] <Sayona> but becouse I don't have ip static
connot access mysql of vps.
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3102[20:29:07] <Rambler44> so /sys /dev /dev/pts (or just /dev?)
/proc should be sufficiend to bind to my chroot environment?
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3104[20:29:20] <Sayona> yes but i NEED TO add the ip to allow
access to mysql
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3105[20:29:20] <greycat> Sayona: The VPS doesn't have a
static address?
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3106[20:29:24] <teraflops> Rambler44: you can use it for clean
chroots (for building packages) or for doing containers which you
manage via machinectl
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3107[20:29:26] <Sayona> yes have
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3109[20:29:39] <greycat> Sayona: Oh. Mysql bullshit. No you
don't. Just use an SSH tunnel.
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3110[20:29:47] <Rambler44> Ah, I see, so those containers are
mostly used for building packages
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3111[20:29:51] <Sayona> ssh tunnel ?
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3112[20:29:57] <Rambler44> But chroots are more constant running
which I'm planning to do
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3114[20:30:21] <greycat> Or more realistically, do a mysqldump
(or whatever it is) on the server and then back THAT up.
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3115[20:30:21] <missmbob> are you backing up the home computer or
the VPS?
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3121[20:31:35] <Sayona> missmbob, the vps to computer
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3122[20:31:45] <Sayona> but I want to use mysqldump from computer
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3124[20:32:01] <teraflops> Rambler44: not really, you can run
applications there
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3131[20:32:19] <teraflops> Rambler44: and do login power on
poweroff etc
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3132[20:32:28] <missmbob> Sayona: i've never known a VPS
without a backup option. the provider really doesn't do it?
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3133[20:32:30] <cableninja> Sayona, ssh $vps 'mysqldump
{mysqldump commands/options}' > mysql.out
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3134[20:32:32] <cableninja> ^ best bet
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3135[20:32:34] <greycat> Sayona:
replaced-url
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3136[20:32:42] <greycat> Or what cableninja said.
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3139[20:33:04] <Rambler44> teraflops, but it would add more of an
overhead then using a regular chroot environment? That's what I
care about most, what's more light
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3140[20:33:08] <Sayona> let see
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3141[20:33:25] <teraflops> Rambler44: it's the same at the
end, so whatever floats your goat
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3146[20:35:03] <Rambler44> If it could somehow automatically bind
my automounts without me having to manually bind them or edit the
fstab both in host and container it would be better
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3160[20:40:55] <jhutchins> Sayona: You could also write a script
to do the backup and trigger it via ssh.
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3164[20:41:18] <jhutchins> Sayona: You can also set up dynamic
DNS for your home system and use a hostname.
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3165[20:41:23] <Sayona> i want a get not put
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3167[20:41:46] <Sayona> i have cpanel and i add allowed to mysql
the free dns ...
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3168[20:41:47] <Sayona> but not work
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3170[20:42:06] <greycat> Pretend you do not have cpanel. NOW
think.
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3172[20:42:58] <Sayona> iptalbles
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3173[20:43:04] <greycat> For god's sake, NO!
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3177[20:44:18] <Rambler44> cPanel, hmm, that brand is at least
for me associated with oversold servers
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3178[20:44:28] <Rambler44> s/oversold/overprovisioned
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3179[20:44:50] <Rambler44> ;)
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3180[20:44:59] <Sayona> :(
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3182[20:45:25] <greycat> Just ignore the cpanel crap entirely.
You have ssh. Therefore you can retrieve any data you want from the
server onto your client.
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3183[20:45:51] <Sayona> wow I think I solve
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3185[20:46:03] <greycat> At that point it becomes a question of
making it simple, elegant, efficient, and still secure.
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3187[20:46:23] <Sayona> stdin: is not a tty
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3188[20:46:27] <Sayona> using ssh
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3189[20:46:30] <greycat> ssh -t
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3190[20:46:43] <Rambler44> I remember how I once was met with
this cPanel installation where root had password login enabled and
it had a pretty small password
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3194[20:47:45] <Rambler44> I was shocked at how poor security it
had without getting compromised
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3197[20:48:15] <teraflops> Rambler44: imho cpanel is just useless
crap
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3198[20:48:25] <Rambler44> with that said, is the default
webserver choice on cPanel apache traffic server?
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3199[20:48:36] <Rambler44> I don't see why they don't
officially support nginx
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3203[20:50:21] <Sayona> strange
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3204[20:50:29] <Sayona> he reacte me a .gz but is 4kb
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3205[20:50:39] <Sayona> s/reacte/create
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3207[20:51:40] <jhutchins> Sayona: Were you thinking it should be
bigger?
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3208[20:51:52] <Sayona> yes 400+ mb
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3211[20:52:48] <Rambler44> Compressed my 1320MB Debian RAW copy
of fs into 200MB using ultra compression before
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3216[20:54:14] <Sayona> ssh -p 2111 -t root@srv.uxxx
"mysqldump -u mkrxxg -pnqxx8 | gzip -3 -c" >
/root/bb_`date +\%Y-\%m-\%d-\%S`.sql.gz
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3217[20:54:21] <Sayona> where I wrong?
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3224[20:57:40] <jhutchins> Sayona: so do the dump directly to a
text file instead of piping to gzip, or have it dump to console.
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3227[20:58:16] <Sayona> jhutchins, can you complete in the
command please?
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3228[20:58:22] <greycat> I'd *strongly* consider keeping the
uncompressed mysqldump file on the server if at all possible so that
you can rsync it down to the client.
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3230[20:58:52] <greycat> Unless your database changes radically,
quickly, you should get a huge savings for the unchanged parts of
the dump.
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3232[20:59:36] <Sayona> I use rsync for files
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3234[20:59:48] <Sayona> but for db... i need to use mysqldump in
desktop
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3236[21:00:09] <greycat> Why do you think you have to use the
desktop (client) implementation of mysqldump instead of the
server's one?
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3237[21:00:21] <Sayona> to be remotly
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3245[21:03:43] <Sayona> what is the solution?
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3246[21:03:50] <Rambler44> as I have defualts enabled, how would
I go about tune2fs to disable data=writeback,journal_data_writeback
from defaults? I am thinking of how to proof this sytem of power
cuts as it caused some rather horrible damage last time
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3250[21:04:48] <Rambler44> As setting data=writeback I assume is
not part of defaults, maybe I am thinking of disabling journaling or
am I out of my mind?
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3251[21:04:48] <`Kevin> mysqldump sigh :|
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3252[21:05:31] <Rambler44> I already replaced my performance
settings to the sync option
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3264[21:10:12] <foul_owl> How do I regenerate /etc/resolv.conf? I
have Debian running in a vm. I can resolve without issue. Then, on
the host, I connect to a VPN. I can no longer resolve on the guest,
but I can on the host. Restarting networking on the guest
doesn't solve the issue, but restarting the guest entirely does
solve the issue. However, I would rather not have to restart my
operating system entirely every time I change VPNs
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3265[21:10:14] <foul_owl> on the host. I can connect to an IP
directly from the guest also, so I know it's a DNS issue. I
think I just need to regenerate /etc/resolv.conf once I connect to
the VPN, but not sure how to do that. NetworkManager seems to be
running by default. Thanks!
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3268[21:11:32] <greycat> It gets clobbered every time dhcp-client
refreshes its lease, in a default DHCP configuration.
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3269[21:11:34] <lattera2> I installed Debian 8 on my 2015 MacBook
Pro, when I connect a second monitor the main monitor (the laptop
display) goes black
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3270[21:11:41] <lattera2> anyone know what I should do to fix
that?
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3276[21:13:49] <foul_owl> Ah, so I need to run dhcp-client?
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3277[21:13:53] <foul_owl> Run that manually?
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3278[21:14:00] <rattking> lattera2: does that one have the hybrid
graphics?
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3279[21:14:17] <greycat> No, but *IF* you are running it, which
you typically are, that's what changes the content of
resolv.conf. All the time. Especially when you don't want it
to.
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3281[21:14:37] <lattera2> rattking: not sure, but I'm using
the intel driver
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3282[21:14:43] <foul_owl> Hmmm
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3283[21:14:44] <lattera2> how do I tell if it has hybrid
graphics?
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3285[21:14:46] <greycat> If you aren't running a DHCP client
then just edit resolv.conf by hand, once, and voila. Done.
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3289[21:15:00] <foul_owl> I don't know what the nameservers
are supposed to be on my vpn though
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3291[21:15:09] <greycat> Then run your own.
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3292[21:15:10] <tamarin> Any hints for DHCP? I have "auto
wlan0" and "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" but when I
ifdown/up or reboot I don't get an ipv4 address.
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3294[21:15:19] <foul_owl> Hmmm
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3295[21:15:29] <tamarin> dhclient wlan0 works as expected,
though.
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3296[21:15:34] <greycat> Or use google's public nameserver
if you want google to know who you're looking up.
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3297[21:15:48] <rattking> I ask because I have seen that
behaviour before, where the external displayport / hdmi or whatever
only works with 1 of the 2 video cards
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3300[21:16:12] <foul_owl> Ahh ok running dhclient eth0 did the
trick
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3301[21:16:14] <foul_owl> Thanks!
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3306[21:17:43] <lattera2> rattking: gotcha, looks like this one
may use hybrid graphics
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3307[21:17:57] <tamarin> Is there anything special in Jessie that
would stop dhcpclient from running on an interface set to dhcp?
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3310[21:18:06] <lattera2> intel and amd
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3311[21:18:31] <greycat> tamarin: I would review journalctl
output (as root) and look for errors
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3313[21:18:40] <lattera2> except, lspci only shows intel for VGA
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3314[21:19:04] <tamarin> greycat: There aren't any errors on
boot or if I ifdown/ifup. dhclient wlan0 works fine and produces no
errors.
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3315[21:19:07] <Sayona> :D
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3327[21:22:34] <Sayona> Hi, I use this ssh -p 2221 -C
root@srv.xxxx mysqldump -u mkxxx --password=nxxx8 mkxxx | gzip >
xxxx.sql.gz , and after 5min give me Connection timed out
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3332[21:23:00] <Rambler44> Still no idea how, this man page
confuses me a bit
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3334[21:23:33] <Rambler44> From my understanding -O only disabled
filesystem features, and tune2fs -o journalling_data_writeback would
enable the mount option, but how in the world would I disable it
then?
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3338[21:26:11] <Rambler44> ah they can be used both to set and
clear ^ I see
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3376[21:44:47] <beer-> i need some help
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3378[21:45:08] <beer-> with kali linux
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3380[21:45:21] <greycat> !kali
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3381[21:45:21] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3385[21:46:49] <beer-> I cant do some attack on web site Error
can't read new threads
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3386[21:46:56] <beer-> needs help
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3388[21:47:27] <Rambler44> Hmm, I did a touch /forcefsck and
rebooted, but nothing was to be found inside /var/log/fsck... Did it
not run properly, should I combine fsck with shutdown command
perhaps?
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3389[21:47:36] <OerHeks> beer-, seems like a very solid website.
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3390[21:47:48] <OerHeks> beer-, see the answer of dpkg
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3391[21:48:00] <beer-> OerHeks u think so?
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3396[21:49:07] <beer-> OerHeks Im using ufonet
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3397[21:49:09] <beer-> Error can't read new threads
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3398[21:49:14] <geoffchau> I can't boot amd64 live debian
from a lexar 16gb flash drive. I am using an ASUS m32 series desktop
computer. When I try to boot it gives me a black screen for a couple
seconds and then it reverts back to windows
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3399[21:49:24] <__marco> Hello. When will be Firefox 48 available
for in mozilla.debian.net?
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3400[21:49:26] <afx_> Hello ! is there a way I can ping a
hostname in my local network instead of an ip ?
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3401[21:49:40] <beer-> default is 5
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3402[21:50:01] <__marco> afx_: you need a dns or an entry in
/etc/hosts
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3403[21:50:29] <greycat> Rambler44: I don't believe
/forcefsck works in systemd (jessie) and I also don't believe
there is ANY analogous replacement for it
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3404[21:50:49] <Rambler44> Quite possible, I found logs for my
first boot in /run/initramfs/fsck.log
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3405[21:50:53] <jim> hi... during a dist-upgrade, I'm
getting the message "WARNING: lvmetad is running but disabled.
Restart lvmetad before enabling"... what's it mean?
what's lvmetad?
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3406[21:51:29] <afx_> __macro I have set my wireless adapter to
use my router as dns server
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