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0[00:00:08] <ratrace> tomg: fixed your exim issue?
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15[00:10:33] <wwilliam> I installed stretch again same thing
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16[00:10:50] <wwilliam> power settings in system settings are
not available
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17[00:10:55] <wwilliam> what a bummer.
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18[00:11:08] <nkuttler> check your bios?
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19[00:11:35] <wwilliam> is a vm
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20[00:11:47] <wwilliam> what should I check for?
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21[00:11:58] <nkuttler> hm, why do you need pm in a vm?
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22[00:11:59] <wwilliam> nkuttler:
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24[00:12:09] <nkuttler> acpi/apm stuff? dunno
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25[00:12:12] <wwilliam> Power Management configuration module
could not be loaded.
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26[00:12:19] <wwilliam> the power management service appears
not to be running.
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27[00:12:27] <wwilliam> This can be solved by starting or
scheduling it inside "Startup and Shutdown"
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28[00:12:39] <wwilliam> I have no idea how to do the last part.
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30[00:13:36] <wwilliam> I dont want to vm to log out after 5
mins of inactivity.
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36[00:15:46] <tomg> ratrace, no, i'll try again
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37[00:17:42] <ratrace> tomg: it's in the docs :) ::0 tried
that?
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42[00:19:41] <tomg> local_interfaces = <; ::0 ; 0.0.0.0 is
what i needed to see
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44[00:19:59] <tomg> i thought :: would do for ::0, but no.
everything seems to work now, thanks ratrace !
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45[00:20:32] <tomg> wait i think i spoke too soon
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47[00:22:19] <tomg> 2020-02-08 18:21:48 socket bind() to port
25 for address :: failed: Address already in use: waiting 30s before
trying again (3 more tries)
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49[00:23:49] <tomg> it seems to work now, i switched the order
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59[00:28:44] <tomg> it seems to be good, thanks ratrace for the
doc URL
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67[00:33:42] <quadrathoch2> Hey, was right now spinning up a vm
and wanted to try firewalld, but somehow when I want to reload the
firewall rules, I get an error, and only after rebooting the new
rules apply oO, anybody got an idea?
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69[00:35:30] <quadrathoch2> ahm, here is the error :/
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110[01:17:39] <wwilliam> does anyone know why this does not
work/
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111[01:17:44] <wwilliam> Power Management configuration module
could not be loaded.
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112[01:17:48] <wwilliam> the power management service appears
not to be running.
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113[01:17:51] <wwilliam> This can be solved by starting or
scheduling it inside "Startup and Shutdown"
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115[01:18:27] <wwilliam> I have no idea to start it or schedule
it inside Startup and shutdown/
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124[01:23:21] <karlpinc> wwilliam: Sounds like a desktop
question. Search your desktop help for "Startup and
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125[01:23:25] <karlpinc> Shutdown".
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126[01:25:21] <wwilliam> Thank you. karlpinc
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143[01:40:54] <thor> Can someone help me with Steam.. I got
pretty far and have the Terminal error messages ready . Im on Mint
XFCE 64-bit
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144[01:40:58] <OS-41914> /join #offsec
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171[02:12:34] <wwilliam> how do i install the latest kde?
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172[02:12:41] <wwilliam> on debian stretch.?
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173[02:15:10] <neox> sudo apt install kde-full for the latest
full release with all the applications.
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174[02:15:10] <neox> Otherwise kde-standard, or
kde-plasma-desktop (minimal installation)
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177[02:15:54] <wwilliam> Thank you.
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241[03:24:43] <u0_a198> whe i use the usb to install the
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292[04:04:19] <regis> Yo
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293[04:04:25] <regis> What's up with 10.2 being
"latest" at
replaced-url
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296[04:06:54] <themill> CDs take time to generate and then the
links need to get updated
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310[04:12:10] <regis> Completely understandable. This may be
some faulty cache's fault though but I'm not talking about
files available on mirrors but test imbedded in debian.org html.
Example is the main page with "Download Debian 10.2" in
topright. My script stands that it was 10.3 around Feb 8 21:55 and
10.2 at Feb 9 03:55
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311[04:12:51] <regis> (CET)
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320[04:15:41] <themill> regis: yes, the web team normally wait
until the new iso hits the mirrors first and then updates the
website. The git commit to do so was pushed about 30min ago.
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322[04:16:58] <regis> All clear
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324[04:17:03] <regis> Cheers
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330[04:18:36] <thenori> hey, I'm having trouble updating
from security.debian.org
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332[04:18:57] <thenori> I'm running debian unstable
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334[04:19:44] <thenori> no matter if I set it to stable,
stable/updates, whatever it gives me 404
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337[04:20:05] <thenori> i feel uncomfortable not having *any*
security repository functioning
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339[04:21:40] <themill> real sources.list lines are easier to
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341[04:22:03] <themill> !show sources.list thenori
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342[04:22:03] <dpkg> thenori: Please pastebin the contents of
your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The
easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0
/etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
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343[04:22:25] <thenori> deb
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345[04:22:51] <themill> it would be buster/updates not stable
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346[04:22:59] <themill> not that you'd be able to use it if
you're running sid
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350[04:24:06] <thenori> how would i be incapable of using
security updates? I couldn't get security updates functioning
with unstable/updates
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353[04:24:32] <themill> much of the time, the version of the
package in sid would already be greater than the version in
buster/updates
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356[04:24:47] <themill> there are no unstable/updates,
that's a meaningless thing
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357[04:24:50] <themill> !sid security
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359[04:24:50] <dpkg> There is no security support for unstable
(sid) at all. Uploads of new packages that fix security
vulnerabilities are handled in the same way as any other new version
-- this means it's up to the maintainer to do a new upload and
you (perhaps) to reconfigure services to cope with the new version.
This is one of the reasons unstable is not suitable for day-to-day
use in many situations. Also ask me about <moving target>.
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361[04:26:34] <thenori> so why should the security repository
404?
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366[04:28:04] <thenori> E: The repository 'replaced-url
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372[04:31:14] <themill> because "stable there
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373[04:31:35] <themill> because "stable" there is
wrong. it is "buster/updates"
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375[04:31:48] <terr__> I tried apt install aptitude. It asked
for a a stretch CD in /media/cdrom/
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380[04:36:30] <themill> terr__: you need to update your
sources.list to ensure that it includes internet mirrors and
doesn't include the CD entry
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381[04:36:34] <themill> !stretch sources.list
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382[04:36:34] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
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386[04:40:09] <terr__> themill, thanks. This is rescue media. I
just installed and booted. I can do it.
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394[04:46:06] <terr__> themill, I copied what you wrote. I am
coming down with a cold. I'll tackle it later
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402[04:54:11] <themill> no worries, good luck
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504[06:45:39] <SanchoPensa> hey guys!
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505[06:46:42] <netvixtra> Me Pensa
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506[06:47:07] <SanchoPensa> so, for some time now, I was
worrying, that something about my sources might be broken, since,
every time, when I attempted to dist-upgrade/full-upgrade, it
basically did nothing.
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507[06:47:07] <SanchoPensa> right now, I noticed an increased
usage of cpu by the noise of my laptops fans, so I looked, where it
came from.
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510[06:47:29] <SanchoPensa> what I found is a script running, by
the name of unattended-upgr.
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512[06:47:48] <SanchoPensa> so, I googled, what that is. And I
found a corresponding log file.
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514[06:48:28] <dvs> ,v unattended-upgrades
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515[06:48:29] <judd> Package: unattended-upgrades on amd64 --
jessie: 0.83.3.2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.83.3.2+deb8u1; stretch:
0.93.1+nmu1; buster: 1.11.2; bullseye: 1.17; sid: 1.17
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516[06:48:31] <SanchoPensa> that log file says, that my debian
just upgraded linux headers, linux image, systemctl, udev,
openssh-client, and then some
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518[06:49:22] <SanchoPensa> dvs: exactly. I find that to be a
very "interesting" change in policy, that debian nowadays
does things without my knowledge, just like windows.
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520[06:49:35] <annadane> it can be disabled
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525[06:49:42] <SanchoPensa> and that without anybody even
telling me. how come?
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526[06:49:45] <dvs> SanchoPensa, just uninstall that package
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527[06:49:46] <annadane> but yes, a point release just came out
today
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528[06:50:02] <annadane> it's *not* enabled by default,
somebody must have done it on your machine
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530[06:50:35] <annadane> or at least, shouldn't be
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531[06:50:39] <SanchoPensa> annadane: I saw that too. my point
is, since when does debian take such substantial decisions out of my
hand, and that without me knowing of ot?
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533[06:50:51] <annadane> again, not enabled by default
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534[06:51:00] <annadane> it's good for people who
don't want to do stuff manually
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535[06:51:18] <SanchoPensa> annadane: I sure as hell
haven't installed it myself, I haven't enabled it, and
there is nobody else, who has access to my computer
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537[06:51:49] <SanchoPensa> annadane: I do not doubt that. the
issue, that I am addressing, is the change in policy.
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542[06:52:35] <SanchoPensa> and it DOES say in the description,
that most packages nowadays require the script to be running. That
don't sound like, "I have to enable it myself", does
it?
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546[06:55:37] <tomreyn>
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547[06:56:00] <tomreyn> it doesn't state the reasoning, but
i am certain this was discussed at length on mailing lists.
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548[06:57:05] <dvs> sneaky sneaks!
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551[06:57:59] <SanchoPensa> indeed.
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552[06:58:13] <SanchoPensa> andy I am using xfce, by the way...
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553[06:58:52] <annadane> i wonder if it's just a,
"autostarted by default because that package was
installed" thing that debian likes to do
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555[06:59:09] <annadane> and whether it's true of
unattended upgrades because it was installed as a Recommends of
something else
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557[06:59:50] <SanchoPensa> there is one more thing:
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558[07:00:13] <SanchoPensa> the upgraded linux image/headers do
require a restart. nothing ever tells me that.
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559[07:00:32] <SanchoPensa> suggestion is, to monitor cat
/var/run/reboot-required.pkgs for changes in content
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560[07:00:42] <SanchoPensa> that is seriously not feasable.
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561[07:00:44] <annadane> i just use the needrestart package
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562[07:01:00] <SanchoPensa> annadane: I see, thank you
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571[07:10:05] <SanchoPensa> annadane: how does that work
exaclty? do I have to invoke that script manually, or is it
"enabled", once I ran needrestart -r l?
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573[07:11:14] <annadane> it's already enabled
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575[07:11:51] <SanchoPensa> annadane: it is? Ydt again? :D
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576[07:12:09] <annadane> yeah, a lot in debian package
installation is automated
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577[07:12:29] <SanchoPensa> I really wish, debian would start
adding useful descriptions to their package
"descriptions":
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578[07:12:36] <annadane> i was speculating overly much on
unattended upgrades, i didn't know it could just randomly
activate itself, it might though so i shouldn't have guessed
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579[07:13:14] <SanchoPensa> it's a fact. at least for me.
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580[07:13:55] <annadane> well, enjoy 10.3, and if you don't
want unattended upgrades make sure you know when updates are
available
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583[07:14:12] <annadane> also, subscribe to
debian-announce@lists.debian.org
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584[07:14:36] <annadane> (i assume you're on debian 10 and
just linked to the jessie version of needrestart randomly, not that
you're on jessie)
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585[07:14:47] <SanchoPensa> I am of the opinion, that these
circumstances should be described during installation/upgrade. Like,
you get a prompt for every this and that. Why not for something
substantial like this?
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586[07:15:04] <annadane> possible, i'm not sure where your
feedback can be directed thoug
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587[07:15:04] <annadane> h
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589[07:15:10] <annadane> i'm definitely not a developer
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590[07:15:15] <annadane> i am however, exhausted, and going to
sleep
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591[07:15:16] <SanchoPensa> aye, 10.3 it is
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592[07:15:42] <SanchoPensa> annadane: have a good one then.
Thanks for your assistance, very much appreciated!
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594[07:15:51] <dudz> disabling apt would prevent unattended
upgrades for those who don't want it?
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595[07:15:52] <annadane> sorry for initially being unhelpful
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597[07:15:57] <SanchoPensa> ??
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598[07:16:05] <SanchoPensa> didn't notice that!
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logical to me that without an apt source, there is nothing to
consult/upgrade from
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603[07:17:14] <annadane> yeah, but like, you can just disable
unattended upgrades itself
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604[07:17:21] <dudz> oh right
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605[07:17:21] <annadane> don't need to mess around with
that
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606[07:17:51] <SanchoPensa> does make sense, though. I only
wish, I had KNOWN about it.
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610[07:20:04] <annadane>
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611[07:20:13] <annadane> from what it looks like
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612[07:20:17] <annadane> i don't really use it so idk
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613[07:21:07] <annadane> oh they left
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614[07:21:19] * annadane screams into the void
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615[07:21:57] <dudz> :)
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616[07:22:04] <dudz> perl <3
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633[07:35:54] <tomreyn> <SanchoPensa> and that without
anybody even telling me. how come?
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702[08:42:43] <Maha> hello
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703[08:42:47] <Maha> i have a few questions
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704[08:43:15] <Maha> im running a custom linux distro based off
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706[08:43:40] <Maha> i was wondering if it is ok to apt-get
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708[08:44:45] <Maha> instead of the user account
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715[08:55:14] <terr__> I have an installation which is not
partitioned the way I want. I can sacrifice it. Here is my question:
Since this partition contains only /swap and /home, then 1) can I
recreate both in /(root) - I can empty both targets first and
unmount them. They are empty. 2) reactive "tiny" /swap and
/home within the /(root) partition and then blow away my extended
partition (FAT32) and expand /(root) - all the while being logged
into the system as root?
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716[08:55:35] <terr__> Note: I do not need to do it this way. I
am just wondering if it can be done this way.
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717[08:56:58] <terr__> I am in the process of installing Buster
on a new target drive anyways. When I am done the rescue boot I am
using now is totally unneeded. So I may as well experiment.
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746[09:22:54] <opnsense0> Bonjour
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747[09:25:23] <countdr> Bon apetit
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749[09:26:35] <diogenes_> C'est la vie
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775[09:39:40] <Deknos> hey i just updated debian stable (with
backports). and while updating initramfs it says something about
"W: Possible missing firmware
/lib/firmware/amdgpu/vega20_asd.bin for module amdgpu" any
known issue about that? i couldnt find anything prominent in the
debian bugtracker
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783[09:44:21] <countdr> Deknos: Debian doesn't include
firmware
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787[09:47:40] <aypea[0]> Deknos: you may need non-free fw.
debian provides.
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788[09:47:58] <aypea[0]> Deknos: but you may need to add the
non-free component manually
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794[09:53:40] <diogenes_> Deknos, but if everything works, you
don't need to do anything.
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795[09:54:26] <countdr> You still need to work.
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797[09:55:35] <diogenes_> i've got a bunch of missing
firmware messages too but it's not related to my hardware so
one might not need it.
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803[09:59:59] <thorie2> how can i boot without x? i tried adding
`text` to the linux /vmlinuz line during the grub bootup, but it
still reaches the xdm login screen ... my issue is the
keyboard/mouse don't seem to work on that login screen (usb
gets frozen? caps lock light indicator no longer works when i
toggle, though it works up until xdm appears)
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809[10:05:45] <neox> Use advanced option when on grub and select
recovery mode entry
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810[10:08:01] <ratrace> thorie2: add
systemd.unit=multi-user.target to that vmlinuz line instead of
"text"
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811[10:10:23] <thorie2> thanks i got it!
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812[10:11:05] <thorie2> fyi i did that, then in console i did
apt remove xdm, apt install lightdm, and now the keyboard/mouse
don't freeze on the login screen
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814[10:11:59] <ratrace> and it looks way nicer, not 1980s :)
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817[10:12:44] <thorie2> yeah it does!
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827[10:21:40] <Deknos> aypea[0], diogenes_ i added non-free, but
the firmware files are not there.
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829[10:22:00] <Deknos> i admit i am always nervous about missing
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854[10:47:27] <deepfreez> Hi, can anyone tell me if I can get
debian with 2.6 kernel? I need for lab testing.
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856[10:47:55] <deepfreez> I think 4?
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859[10:48:14] <terr__> deepfreez, I hae not looked but I think
you can. In fact I might have a machine that old here. Circa what
decade?
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861[10:49:52] <ratrace>
replaced-url
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863[10:51:06] <deepfreez> thank you
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865[10:51:39] <deepfreez> In have a wifi usb asus and in the
manual is only for kernel 2.6
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866[10:52:07] <terr__> ratrace, I figured you would have the
answer!
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867[10:52:12] <deepfreez> Asus USB-N14 USB Adaptor Wireless-n300
and I cannot install on the least debian
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872[10:53:31] <terr__> deepfreez, how can I find out the actual
WiFi chipset in this machine?
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873[10:53:42] <dispersed> lspci ?
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874[10:53:48] <terr__> thax
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875[10:54:03] <deepfreez> yes :)
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876[10:54:17] <countdr> deepfreez wait. Try Ubuntu
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877[10:54:39] <deepfreez> countdr, I try but no result.
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878[10:54:50] <countdr> 2.6 won't work
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881[10:55:38] <lovelytingy> python3 bash:
/usr/lib/command-not-found: /usr/bin/python3: bad interpreter: Too
many levels of symbolic links
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884[10:55:43] <deepfreez>
replaced-url
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885[10:55:47] <terr__> Its a Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 / AR928
Wireless combo - eeePC
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886[10:55:50] <lovelytingy> same with the python command
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887[10:55:55] <lovelytingy> help me plz
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888[10:56:25] <countdr> I preach Ubuntu in #debian
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890[10:57:01] <terr__> deepfreez, Don't we support
proprietary firmware
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892[10:57:21] <deepfreez> I try with Asus USB-N14 USB Adaptor
Wireless-n300
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893[10:57:22] <countdr> lovelytingy: The problem is
/etc/alternatives/python
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894[10:57:26] <deepfreez> with backports
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895[10:57:28] <deepfreez> no result
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899[10:57:51] <lovelytingy> countdr what should i do
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901[10:58:14] <terr__> deepfreez, that interface should live in
a module that can be loaded at runtime. insmod
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902[10:58:41] <deepfreez> let me try.
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903[10:58:51] <countdr> lovelytingy: Is python even installed?
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905[10:59:36] <lovelytingy> i just trying to install Pypdf lib
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907[10:59:50] <lovelytingy> and some how messedup
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909[11:00:14] <terr__> deepfreez, this is above my payscale.
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911[11:01:02] <countdr> lovelytingy: Type python press Tab Tab
How do we set /etc/alternatives/python ?
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913[11:01:40] <deepfreez> :)
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918[11:03:04] <nlpqda> OMG my debian box starts reading
everything on the screen making me feel like I'm going blind
all the sudden
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921[11:03:25] <nlpqda> how to stop/start debian reading
assistance/
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922[11:03:26] <nlpqda> ?
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923[11:04:36] <countdr> lovelytingy: update-alternatives --list
python
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924[11:04:52] <countdr> nlpqda: The program is called orca.
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927[11:05:29] <nlpqda> countdr: not existing on my
"buster" box
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928[11:06:00] <nlpqda> O it seems there from terminal not gnome
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934[11:08:53] <nlpqda> countdr: I'm trying orca -d but it
won't stop the crazy running application ....
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935[11:09:14] <countdr> ps axu | grep orca
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936[11:09:50] <countdr> Then apt-get remove orca
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937[11:09:51] <lovelytingy> update-alternatives: error: no
alternatives for python
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938[11:10:35] <countdr> lovelytingy: dpkg -l | grep python
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939[11:11:03] <nlpqda> countdr: is there other normal way to
shut this program off? other than killing the process
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940[11:11:15] <countdr> nlpqda: There is a keyboard shortcut of
course
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943[11:12:20] <lovelytingy> countdr lots of line came up but
python2,python3 && python2.7,python3.7 also
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948[11:15:17] <countdr> lovelytingy: ii means installed
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954[11:18:55] <o3pio> Why does buster is requesting to upgrade
systemd ? (got 102 packages to upgrade since this morning )
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955[11:19:23] <countdr> o3pio: What I do, is I copy sources.list
to another file, then empty sources.list
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959[11:20:02] <sbug> nlpqda: in GNOME settings->universal
access->screen reader
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960[11:20:15] <o3pio> countdr, I wish to understand why all of
sudden systemd need to have an upgrade and not break my apt config
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965[11:20:54] <countdr> I don't know what systemd is
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966[11:21:08] <o3pio> !systemd
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967[11:21:08] <dpkg> systemd is a system and service manager for
Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a
replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd shipped as a technology
preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and is the default init
system in Debian 8 "Jessie".
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968[11:21:11] <o3pio> countdr, ^
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969[11:22:07] <terr__>
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970[11:22:07] <terr__> Canada - what do I change in
/etc/apt/sources.list?
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972[11:23:24] <o3pio> terr__, put the line that has cdrom in
commend (put a # in the start) , and run apt-get update later
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973[11:23:46] <countdr> !mirrors
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974[11:23:47] <dpkg> The best mirror for most users is
<deb.debian.org>; other mirrors are listed at
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976[11:24:44] <o3pio> terr__, we are already at buster , you
should consider upgrading
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977[11:25:34] <terr__> cd Downer o3pio I just want to get enough
of apt installed so Ican trash stretch. (not that Stretch has not
been a good friend). Most of the tools I need are not here.
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978[11:25:46] <terr__> I am doing just that.
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979[11:25:58] <nlpqda> sbug: I used pkill to terminate the
program, now I switched on from Gnome settings as you've
mentioned, but it's not reading like it did before.
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980[11:26:03] <terr__> but I am re partitioning as well.
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983[11:27:26] <o3pio> terr__, you can upgrade inplace (just
replace stretch to buster, do apt-get update , apt-get -d
dist-upgrade cross your fingers and do apt-get dist-upgrade )
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984[11:27:51] <countdr> terr__ You run the risk if power goes
off
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985[11:27:52] <terr__> I have the UofA mirror available but
I'm installing so little it really doesn't matter.
I'll use deb.debian.org
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986[11:27:57] <sbug> nlpqda: maybe killing it made it not work.
Might try logout/login and see if that helps
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987[11:29:16] <terr__> o3pio, the partitioning is not suitable.
It works but its not what I want for this disk. I am setting up a
special bootable partition on an external HDD that I will put in my
bank sftey deposit box.
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989[11:29:38] <terr__> countdr, the target disk is not mounted.
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991[11:31:38] <terr__> countdr, the machine I am working on is
not this one... its a mate. That machine is booted from a USB rescue
pendrive that I set up with Stretch. I am going to install buster
into an external USB HDD 1TB... into a bottable Linux partition.
Then I can use it to make images of my working HDD's using
ddrescue.
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1000[11:38:03] <IniGit> hi, if I have a /boot partition and a
/root partition and /root is encrypted, is this then what's
referred to as a full disk encrypption?
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1005[11:39:23] <deepfreez> Hi IniGit, I think is a typo in your
phrase.
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1006[11:40:14] <deepfreez> if all your partition are encrypted,
this mean your disk is full encrypted.
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1008[11:40:45] <IniGit> deepfreez: where?
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1011[11:41:03] <terr__> deepfreez, I have no experience with
encrypted partitions... how fast do they run? What kind of
encryption?
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1012[11:41:55] <IniGit> deepfreez: So it doesen't matter if
I only have a root/ parition which is encrypted or if I have /root,
/home and a /tmp partition which are all encrypted, in both cases I
have a full disk encryption?
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1013[11:41:57] <deepfreez> IniGit, sorry I missed. You system
working on / , you mentioned you have only /root encrypted. this
mean your disk is not encrypted
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1014[11:42:15] <deepfreez> how about / ?
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1015[11:42:32] <IniGit> deepfreez: ok you mean / instead of /root
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1016[11:42:48] <IniGit> deepfreez: true, sry
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1017[11:42:56] <IniGit> I mean / instead of /root
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1019[11:43:01] <deepfreez> terr__, no good performance :) because
as any device with encrypted data :) the performance decreases.
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1020[11:43:18] <terr__> should end up in a swamp.
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1022[11:43:48] <terr__> I presume its sector by sector encryption
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1023[11:43:59] <IniGit> Is it a bad idea to have two OS share the
same encrypted /home partition and is this even possible?
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1024[11:44:06] <IniGit> For example Ubuntu and Debian
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1026[11:44:13] <deepfreez> IniGit, if you want full encrypted you
need to encrypt /boot too if you want full.
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1027[11:44:32] <terr__> which will mean the addresses can be used
to break the encryption... depending on what type of encryption of
course
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1028[11:44:36] <IniGit> deepfreez: I read that /boot cannot be
encrypted because it must be cleartext
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1029[11:44:36] <deepfreez> IniGit, not used.
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1030[11:44:52] <terr__> deepfreez, that is easy - use windows!
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1031[11:45:05] <terr__> I think it comes encrypted.
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1032[11:45:16] <deepfreez> IniGit, you can use a USB key for this
:)
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1034[11:45:50] <deepfreez> terr__, bleah :)) windows
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1038[11:46:43] <IniGit> deepfreez: I have to google that, I
don't know what this is
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1039[11:47:18] <NetTerminalGene> IniGit, if you use lvm, it
encrypt everything except /boot
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1040[11:47:28] <deepfreez> IniGit, i used one time :)
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1041[11:47:35] <deepfreez> NetTerminalGene, right!
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1042[11:47:37] <NetTerminalGene> you actually don't need to
encrypt /boot
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1043[11:48:09] <NetTerminalGene> it is for preventing physical
attack
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1044[11:48:32] <IniGit> NetTerminalGene: I use lvm I'm just
thinking if I make a mistake by creating more partitions then / or
in other words make it insecure
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1045[11:49:41] <NetTerminalGene> if it's lvm, you don't
need to worry
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1046[11:50:05] <NetTerminalGene> it encrypt all partition
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1048[11:50:23] <IniGit> NetTerminalGene: What is this physical
attack? Does this mean somebody can crack the full disk encryption?
Is this for example a key logger or so?
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1050[11:51:04] <NetTerminalGene> use "lsblk" command to
check if partitions are all in encrypted container
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1052[11:51:56] <jelly> IniGit: not crack, just replace your boot
code that collects the passphrase, or similar.
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1053[11:51:59] <NetTerminalGene> IniGit, they can modify boot and
can get your encryption key after you enter key
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1054[11:52:10] <NetTerminalGene> paswsword*
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1055[11:53:14] <IniGit> thx
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1056[11:55:30] <deepfreez> :D
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1057[11:56:04] <deepfreez> time to go, I will come back in a few
hours.
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1060[11:56:59] <terr__> well I now have: 446,693,376
debian-10.3.0-i386-netinst.iso I wonder what it does? Is this
documented? IE - Its been over a year since I used one. I _think_ it
should contain a boot image - which can be copied to any media of at
least that size and this _should_ be sector by sector so it has an
embedded MBR, right?
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1065[11:57:49] <deepfreez> I think I will kill myself, my usb
wifi doesn't work on the v5 kernel
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1066[11:59:19] <terr__> deepfreez, I would recomend against that
solution.
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1069[12:00:35] <terr__> deepfreez, are you saying you have a WiFI
device that interfaces via USB? What kind of USB. 2.0 is pretty slow
for WiFi
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1076[12:03:58] <jelly> terr__: yes, but also, that's a 32bit
image. Do you have 32bit-only machines?
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1080[12:05:03] <deepfreez> terr__, doesn't matter if is slow
:) right now I need only to make to work.. but doesn't work.
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1081[12:05:09] <deepfreez> time to go, see ya
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1082[12:05:42] <terr__> jelly, I have both. I am working on a 32
bit right now. I have 2x 32 bit laptops, 2x 64 bit towers and (not
planning on using them) +x 32 bit older towers. Plus 64 bit
Raspberry pi and Aruindo uno and nano
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1083[12:06:45] <jelly> 32bit laptop would be older than 12 years
(or an atom netbook)
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1084[12:06:48] <terr__> deepfreez, you just need to load the
older device driver. ...and I have no idea how to do this or even if
it can be done.
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1085[12:07:03] <terr__> atom netbook eeePC
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1087[12:09:43] <terr__> I need to modify the
/etc/apt/sources.list file so it finds deb.debian.org <--- I
think this is the official one... I have very little to install.
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1094[12:13:00] <terr__> It looks to me that it is already set up.
Why would apt be asking for /media/cdrom/
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1118[12:15:26] <ratrace> terr__: because you have a deb
cdrom:.... entry
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1119[12:15:53] <ratrace> one commented and one uncommented...
accidentally?
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1125[12:17:58] <terr__> There could be a NOTE in that file to
this effect!!!
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1127[12:18:09] <ratrace> if you don't need it, yes, remove
the uncommented entry
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1135[12:21:00] <magnetophon> Hi, I upgraded jessie -> stretch
-> buster on my parents imac. Now it boots into a black screen
unless I do nomodeset. With nomodeset, tty 1-6 work normally and
tty7 stays in "text mode". When I boot from a live-usb
it's the same, except with nomodeset it briefly shows a
graphical debian image. I tried all combinations of drivers and grub
commands that I could find online.
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1140[12:22:40] <magnetophon> there is a HD 4670 in there
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1143[12:23:39] <o3pio> NetTerminalGene, You can actually encrypt
/boot these days as grub support it (even for LUKS2
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1150[12:26:54] <terr__> ratrace, yep - that does it - its
installing...
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1152[12:27:44] <terr__> now I still have a problem with the
timer. I set it to 20 minutes but it still locks Obviously I need to
activate it.
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1155[12:28:48] <terr__> The stupid installer should give the
option to bypass media. Like if I have it great - if not skip it.
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a bunch of important pkgs as "automatically installed and can
be auto-removed". for example alsa-base is in that list
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1161[12:31:11] <terr__> aptitude works! However - I didn't
see it in /usr/sbin and I looked in /sbin as well... where is it?
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1163[12:32:02] <terr__> why can't we get these little
glitches ironed out in the newer version... its not like its hard.
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1165[12:32:55] <ratrace> magnetophon: you can run `apt
autoremove` to remove those
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1166[12:33:28] <ratrace> terr__: where is what?
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1167[12:33:40] <terr__> where is aptitude?
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1169[12:34:12] <terr__> its running. I don't see a command
to start it - command should be in /usr/sbin or in /sbin
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1172[12:34:50] <terr__> I need to install debian-installer
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1173[12:35:02] <magnetophon> ratrace: Thanks. that won't
help with my X issue, will it? Any ideas how to troubleshoot that
one?
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1174[12:35:48] <terr__> I am wanting to build from scratch buster
and end up with a bootable partition and GRUB as the boot loaded on
a new HDD that I have already partitioned.
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1175[12:36:05] <terr__> magnetophon, what yer problem?
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1176[12:36:37] <magnetophon> terr__: after an upgrade from jessie
-> stretch -> buster, my X won't start
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1177[12:36:45] <ratrace> magnetophon: none, when it comes to macs
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1179[12:37:09] <ratrace> terr__: why don't you use
debootstrap?
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1180[12:37:15] <terr__> magnetophon, any messages? Are you trying
startx?
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1181[12:37:22] <magnetophon> terr__: without
"nomodeset" I geyt a black screen pretty soon after boot
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1188[12:39:08] <terr__> ratrace, simple - I don't know about
it.
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1189[12:39:11] <magnetophon> terr__: without nomodeset, I get a
black screen pretty soon after boot
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1190[12:39:28] <ratrace> terr__: dpkg -L aptitude | grep bin also
dpkg -L aptitude-common | grep bin
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1191[12:39:45] <terr__> I am looking and I see the package
debootstrap. I also see debootstick
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1192[12:39:53] <magnetophon> terr__: with nomodeset, tty 1-6 work
normally, and tty7 stays in text-mode
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1193[12:40:39] <magnetophon> terr__: tty7 displays some text
about the network being OK, and then nothing. no prompt, no reaction
to typing
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1195[12:41:01] <terr__> magnetophon, its been years. Check the
docs on startx - I am almost certain there is a log. I forget where
it lives. THe computer I would use to check has unfortunately passed
away.
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1196[12:41:15] <terr__> magnetophon, my son passed away also.
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1198[12:41:36] <magnetophon> terr__: I'm sorry to hear that.
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1200[12:41:57] <terr__> ratrace, thanks.
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1201[12:42:08] <magnetophon> terr__: the log is at
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
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1202[12:42:13] <magnetophon> terr__: it says:
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1203[12:42:33] <terr__> magnetophon, well I am a bit pissed off.
The cops shot his wife. THey were not even married a year.
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1205[12:43:00] <terr__> magnetophon, pop it into termbin.
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1206[12:43:34] <magnetophon> terr__: OK, gotta find out how first
though. one sec
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1208[12:44:12] <terr__> magnetophon, just google Joseph larson
jessica patterson. I was out of commission for over 3 years. I am
just getting back to these computers. I couldn't work.
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1211[12:45:19] <magnetophon> terr__: termbin.com/78wd
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1213[12:45:25] <terr__> THis stupid timer. I set it. Do I have to
stop x and restart? if so how - defualt is to go directly into x.
usually I boot into a command prompt and use startx... but its been
years now.
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1216[12:46:22] <terr__> magnetophon, you forgot to include your
passwords.
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1217[12:46:23] <magnetophon> terr__: wow, terrible story. sorry
for your loss
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1218[12:46:35] <magnetophon> terr__: ??? passwords?
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1222[12:47:15] <terr__> yes - he was on hte dean's list. He
set up (was the muscle to do it ) and co owner of Mountain Park Real
Estate and he was 24 when he did it.
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1223[12:47:37] <terr__> magnetophon, LOL.... gotta find humor
somewhere.
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1224[12:47:45] <magnetophon> terr__: hah
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1227[12:48:25] <terr__> 631.222] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer
mode. Please specify busIDs
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1230[12:49:22] <magnetophon> terr__: yeah, I noticed. the web
gave some suggestion on that, but none of them worked for me
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1233[12:50:20] <terr__> well it wants the busid. someone
suggested lspci
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1234[12:50:29] <terr__> I presume its on a pci interface
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1235[12:50:45] <terr__> I do not know this - I am just guessing.
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1236[12:51:21] <magnetophon> so how do I give it the busid?
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1237[12:51:35] <magnetophon> lspci | grep VGA gives me:
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1238[12:51:46] <magnetophon> 01:00.0
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1239[12:51:56] <magnetophon> that's the busid, right?
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1241[12:52:07] <terr__> I don't know.
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1245[12:54:57] <terr__> Loading
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
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1246[12:55:30] <terr__> look in your x config for this. And I
forget what its called. ?xinitrc?
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1247[12:55:43] <terr__> Its been like 10 years since I did this.
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1253[12:56:29] <terr__> magnetophon, and I spent the last 3 on
estate affairs... like I had to handle 3 foreclosures and this is
STILL not done. And I didn't bother hiring a lawyer to help.
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1254[12:58:07] <terr__> when you have a kids on the dean's
list in finance and he's buying his first condo in 2nd year!
with his own cash that he earned himself! then you cannot believe
what he did to the banks! He missed a couple. and I don't know
if he was in Europe.
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1255[12:58:09] <terr__> yet
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1262[13:03:34] <terr__> ratrace, debootstrap looks good. I am
reading the wiki now. THanks.
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1273[13:07:30] <dpkg> it's good to be home :)
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1280[13:12:09] <budlight> hi
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1281[13:13:28] <magnetophon> budlight: o/
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1283[13:13:56] <lovelytingy> hey guys help me i just broke my
system while installing modules pyPDF2. Now i have
python2.7,python3.7 & python3.8 but none pf them i configured
and im not able to start some apps like terminal
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1312[13:35:42] <peterandre> hi, why does lsb_release -a just show
debian 10 (buster). how to upgrade to 10.3 ? i tried apt-get update
and then apt-get upgrade
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1315[13:35:55] <peterandre> i want to check if 10.3 is installed
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1317[13:36:33] <peterandre> apt-get dist-upgrade didnt work
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1318[13:36:39] <peterandre> said everything is up-to-date
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1319[13:37:05] <sbug> cat /etc/debian_version
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1320[13:37:18] <peterandre> hmm
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1321[13:37:20] <peterandre> that worked
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1322[13:37:21] <peterandre> cool
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1323[13:37:22] <peterandre> 10.3
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1324[13:37:24] <peterandre> thanks
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1328[13:37:49] <peterandre> sorry about that. thanks :)
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1329[13:38:00] <sbug> you're welcome
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1333[13:45:32] <terr__>
replaced-url
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1334[13:45:32] <terr__> - its a USB pendrive. Note - there is
also sda and this is an internal HDD with windows installed. I
intend to back it up using ddrescue then repartition and install
buster
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1362[14:08:46] <terr__> Mathisen, thanks for your help. I will
not make the mistake of even trying to look into ##windows. talk
about *()*(I()
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1364[14:09:11] <Mathisen> you know i am a op in there and dont
talk *** about another chans please. you on your own now
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1365[14:10:02] <eggbean> peterandre: Are you the real Peter
Andre? Never took you for a Debian guy. More of a Mint sort of
person I would have thought.
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1366[14:10:06] <terr__> I didn't know you are an op - and it
doesn't really matter because I really don't have any
windows issues at all. It works and has been for years.
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1368[14:10:51] <peterandre> eggbean, just a nickname i picked
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1369[14:11:00] <terr__> I am trying to figure out how to get the
partition ID's set so I can use debootstrap and get buster
running.
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1370[14:11:02] <eggbean> Oh
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1377[14:17:13] <linux> anyone here?
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1378[14:17:18] <Mathisen> yep
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1379[14:17:24] <linux> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Parrot
"rolling" 4.8 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @
2.50GHz (798MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.4 GiB Total
(5.1 GiB Free) Swap: 291.0 GiB Total (291.0 GiB Free)
• Storage: 59.5 GB / 306.5 GB (247.1 GB Free)
• VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GF119M [GeForce 610M] @ Intel
Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller
• Uptime: 5h 47m 31s
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1380[14:17:43] <Mathisen> linux, no need for the system scripts
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1381[14:17:46] <towo`> parrot is not supported here
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1382[14:18:09] <eggbean> linux: Nobody cares
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1384[14:18:42] <linux> who the fuck said nobody cares?? did i ask
you speak?
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1387[14:19:48] <joepublic> I second the "nobody cares"
- that's good information to have
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1388[14:20:06] <ratrace> thirded.
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1389[14:20:28] <Mathisen> i join that also
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1390[14:21:26] <jungsdao> what is this chatroom for?
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1391[14:21:36] <Mathisen> debian suport
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1393[14:21:49] <jungsdao> Just started.. curious!
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1395[14:23:15] <Mathisen> ,v sudo
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1396[14:23:16] <terr__>
replaced-url
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1397[14:23:17] <judd> Package: sudo on amd64 -- jessie:
1.8.10p3-1+deb8u5; jessie-security: 1.8.10p3-1+deb8u7; stretch:
1.8.19p1-2.1+deb9u2; stretch-security: 1.8.19p1-2.1+deb9u2;
buster-security: 1.8.27-1+deb10u1; buster: 1.8.27-1+deb10u2;
bullseye: 1.8.31-1; sid: 1.8.31-1
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1398[14:23:35] <Mathisen> why is not buster sudo version yet
updated :(
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1399[14:24:08] <ratrace> Mathisen: it's patched for that
latest CVE if you're asking about that
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1401[14:24:31] <Mathisen> i thought it needed 1.8.31
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1403[14:24:51] <ratrace> Mathisen: fixes are backported
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1404[14:24:55] <Mathisen> ahh
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1405[14:25:16] <ratrace> Mathisen: apt-get changelog sudo
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1409[14:27:27] <terr__> fdisk -u, --units[=unit] this will solve
a problem. I should be able to repartition (and lose some space) and
end up with matching partitions across various media. But still not
way to change anything
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1413[14:29:57] <terr__> been years. fdisk is interactive. I
should be okay
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1419[14:33:35] <terr__> ahhh! I think I know what this thing did.
It created an extended partition and then put my NTFS as a logical
partition inside it. Why didn't it say so.
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1426[14:41:37] <deepfreez> Hi, anyone know where I can get the
firmware for wifi rt28070? kernel 5.4 :(
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1428[14:42:27] <dvs> deepfreez, did you compile the kernel
yourself?
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1430[14:42:55] <deepfreez> no
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1433[14:43:17] <dvs> deepfreez, then it might be in the
firmware-non-free package in backports
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1434[14:43:26] <deepfreez> I have a asus usb n14 wireless-n300 :(
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1435[14:43:38] <deepfreez> I try to install backports too but no
result
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1453[14:51:39] <Mathisen> deepfreez, is it this one ?
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1454[14:51:48] <Mathisen> if so they got linux drivers for it
right there
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1461[14:53:09] <Mathisen> mevermind mised the "suported
linux kernel" on the page
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1462[14:53:13] <deepfreez> Supported Linux kernel : 2.6.x
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1463[14:53:13] <deepfreez> MasterNayru
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1464[14:53:17] <Mathisen> yeah my bad
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1465[14:53:23] <deepfreez> :((
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1483[15:04:56] <bacoder> hey
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1484[15:05:05] <bacoder> I am using buster here, and my wireless
is not working
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1485[15:05:08] <bacoder> what should I do?
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1486[15:05:25] <dvs> !firmware
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1487[15:05:25] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic
devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux
kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace,
notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part
of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some
are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask
me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>.
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1488[15:05:27] <bacoder> machine not exactly recent, 2+ years old
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1489[15:06:57] <bacoder> dvs: I know wtf a firmware is, can you
tell me what I need to do to fix this?
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1490[15:07:14] <bacoder> or are we in a dictionary contest ?
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1491[15:07:54] <dvs> bacoder, apt -t buster-backports install
firmware-non-free
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1492[15:07:59] <dvs> there, spoonfed
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1493[15:08:01] <bacoder> thank you
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1497[15:09:43] <bacoder> E: The value
'buster-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as
such a release is not available in the sources
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1499[15:10:01] <bacoder> I don't recall the name of the repo
I need to add to sources.list
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1501[15:10:51] <dvs> !buster sources.list
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1502[15:10:52] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Buster" has the lines: "deb
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1503[15:11:21] <dvs> nope, not that.
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1505[15:11:48] <bacoder> "deb
replaced-url
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1508[15:12:14] <dvs> almost, but you need "contrib
non-free" at the end
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1510[15:13:28] <bacoder> deb
replaced-url
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1511[15:13:36] <dvs> better
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1512[15:13:47] <bacoder> E: Unable to locate package
firmware-non-free
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1513[15:14:05] <dvs> ,v firmware-linux-nonfree
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1514[15:14:07] <judd> Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 --
jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1;
stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free:
20190114-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20190114-2;
buster-backports/non-free: 20190717-2~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free:
20190717-2; sid/non-free: 20190717-2
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1515[15:14:09] <dvs> my bad
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1517[15:15:46] <bacoder> then... what is the name of the package,
I am sorry?
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1518[15:16:09] <dvs> firmware-linux-nonfree
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1519[15:16:30] <bacoder> lol sorry I am still asleep
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1522[15:17:34] <bacoder> i guess I'll reboot now and see
what happens... thanks a bunch
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1524[15:17:41] <dvs> np
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1530[15:22:16] <bacoder> hey again
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1531[15:22:26] <bacoder> I was hoping to see some wireless icon
there at gnome
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1532[15:22:32] <bacoder> but nothing shows
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1533[15:22:48] <dvs> I don't use Gnome, sorry
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1534[15:23:20] <bacoder> how can I know if it works, then?
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1537[15:24:23] <dvs> bacoder, type "ip link" to see
that it shows up
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1538[15:24:31] <bacoder> I don't this works because packae
'network-manager' is installed and it should just work
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1539[15:24:50] <bacoder> yes exactly no wireless interface
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1540[15:24:55] <dvs> ,v network-manager-gui
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1541[15:24:56] <judd> No package named
'network-manager-gui' was found in amd64.
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1542[15:25:13] <bacoder> only enp60s0 and lo
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1545[15:27:16] <dvs> oh? I assume you have an ethernet
connection.
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1547[15:28:08] <bacoder> I do....
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1548[15:28:14] <bacoder> but I want to get wireless to work
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1549[15:28:32] <bacoder> 3b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel
Corporation Wireless 7260 [8086:08b1] (rev bb)
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1550[15:28:40] <bacoder> is this a problem ?
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1552[15:29:01] <dvs> ,pciid 8086:08b1
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1553[15:29:02] <judd> [8086:08b1] is 'Wireless 7260'
from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'iwlwifi', 'snd-hda-intel',
'ata-generic' in stretch. See also
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1555[15:29:13] <dvs> shouldn't be
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1556[15:30:34] <Antoine> Hello, I updated cups today and it said
"insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`cups' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). insserv: warning:
current stop runlevel(s) (1 2 3 4 5) of script `cups' overrides
LSB defaults (1)."
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1557[15:31:02] <Antoine> Where is this 'cups' script?
Should I change anything?
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1565[15:33:55] <bacoder> now it seems that the wifi icon is
already available
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1566[15:34:13] <bacoder> I usually dont use gnome also but, when
it is working it serves as a good indicator
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1614[16:11:01] <terr__> how do I get grub installed in the boot
partition - I'll be using debootstrap. I think I have the linux
partition done. Also I see the extended partition is ID=f, I am use
to ID=5... can someone tell me the signficance - like does it make a
difference? My plan is to leave it as is.
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1644[16:26:00] <terr__> I need some guidence on getting grub
installed in a new HDD - I am planning on using debootstrap to load
buster the question is: Will debootstrap automatically install grub
and will it set up the MBR to boot into the proper partition? Do I
need to set the partition as active?
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1756[16:49:33] <terr__> Does debootstrap populate an MBR? Can it?
I don't think it has access to it.
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1758[16:49:58] <ratrace> terr__: nope. debootstrap only sets up
the base packages
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1759[16:50:16] <ratrace> you'll need to chroot into it and
install/setup the kernel and initramfs and grub
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1760[16:50:24] <terr__> rathought so.
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1763[16:51:12] <terr__> should I do this before I use
debootstrap? Or *MUST* I do it after?
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1765[16:51:35] <ratrace> there's nothing to chroot into if
you don't debootstrap first.
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1767[16:51:46] <terr__> i see we still have initrd.
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1768[16:52:37] <terr__> ratrace, I did mount the partition. I can
umount it but it looks to me debootstrap wants it mounted
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1771[16:53:10] <ratrace> terr__: debootstrap needs the
directory/mountpoint which will be the rootfs
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1772[16:53:11] <KaiForce> I'm installing remotely over SSH
to an Arm based device... I am getting an error that says "No
kernel modules were found" and that the files I am installing
from may have an older Kernel than the one available in the mirror.
I just did this same install on Friday to an identical device - is
there a way for me to safely proceed with the installation the way
things are?
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1774[16:53:49] <terr__> I can run the installer - also I have
that partition already formatted. I would expect debootstrap needs
this.
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1775[16:54:26] <ratrace> terr__: again, debootstrap only sets up
the base OS packages. as if you ran apt install base-packages
--destination=/target/rootfs
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1776[16:54:32] <ratrace> I made up those, just for example
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1781[16:55:34] <terr__> I expect debootstrap will copy in
../boot/vmlinuz - so that is the kernel. I just need to get the
address into grub... and the address of grub into the MBR
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1783[16:55:55] <terr__> that makes sense.
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1784[16:56:06] <ratrace> terr__: the base packages are the
minimum needed for an OS to operate, sans the kernel. so when you
chroot into it, it has the shell, glibc, binutils, root user and all
the basic infrastructure for the OS, _without_ the kernel and
initramfs (so good for containers as well)
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1787[16:56:45] <terr__> I have forgotten what chroot does.
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1788[16:57:01] <ratrace> terr__: debootstrap will not set up
/boot/vmlinuz. you need to chroot into the rootfs created by
debootstrap, and apt install linux-image-amd64 or whichever
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1790[16:57:31] <ratrace> now, whether /boot is a mountpoint or
not, is irrelevant for debootstrap
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1792[16:58:01] <terr__> that makes sense.
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1793[16:58:37] <terr__> It should not matter when I install the
kernel - I should do it before I use debootstrap.
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1795[16:58:39] <ratrace> don't forget to set up resolv.conf
before you try apt in chroot, you can copy it from the
"host"
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1796[16:58:54] <autopsy> terr, chroot changes the current root
filesystem, to <new root> so as root user, do dnf
--installroot=/pub install bash && chroot /pub ;;;;; what
you will see is it will /pub will become your / filesystem and it
execuites /bin/bash to give you a shell
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1797[16:59:41] <ratrace> autopsy: dnf? wrong chan, buddy.
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1798[16:59:44] <autopsy> amirite gais?
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1800[16:59:57] <ratrace> also you can't chroot without bind
mounting dev, sys and procfs first
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1801[17:00:11] <autopsy> yes youre right.
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1803[17:00:33] <terr__> autopsy, as I recall (because I have done
this before) when I chroot whatever directory becomes / and I
won't see the old file system. At that point when I exit the
shell it will reappear.
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1804[17:00:49] <autopsy> yes
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1805[17:01:26] <autopsy> but remember to munt proc dev and sys on
proc devtmpfs and sysfs
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1808[17:02:13] <autopsy> or it wi not let you mount or use ps or
stuf.
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1814[17:04:07] <terr__> autopsy, I need to get some files in
there first. Its a fresh HDD. I just partitioned it and changed the
ID for this partition over to 83
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1816[17:04:18] <terr__> It is formatted (NTFS)
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1820[17:08:30] <ratrace> you can't install linux on NTFS
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1824[17:09:53] <joepublic> one absolutely can "install
linux" on NTFS; the question is advisability and fitness of
purpose
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1826[17:11:01] <ratrace> no. debian needs a posix compatible fs.
needs xattrs and acls. permissions system, and all of that.
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1828[17:11:26] <joepublic> linux != Debian
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1829[17:11:29] <rozie> Debian is not Linux
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1830[17:11:53] <ratrace> ...
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1832[17:12:42] <joepublic> Debian GNU/Linux is an instance of
class "Operating Systems with a Linux Kernel". So is
Android.
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1835[17:13:35] <terr__> wait - I think that partition in fact is
fat32.
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1836[17:13:44] <joepublic> still a poor choice.
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1837[17:13:58] <ratrace> it's even worse
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1838[17:13:59] <KaiForce> ok maybe easier question - in the
remote install SSH session, how do I get to the the shell (it lists
1-installer 2-shell 3-shell) at the top of the screen...
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1839[17:14:36] <terr__> YUP fat32. so I did that right. Its
windows that needs NTFS.
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1840[17:15:03] <rozie> let's don't forget GNU/kFreeBSD
and GNU/Hurd
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1841[17:15:09] <ratrace> terr__: you can't install
linux^WDebian/GNU Linux onto fat32 and expect it to boot and operate
properly.
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1842[17:15:30] <KaiForce> I have an updated initrd and boot
image, I just need to figure out how to get them into /boot/
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1843[17:16:12] <joepublic> well, GNU+other kernels hardly has
anything to do with Linux
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1849[17:17:11] <terr__> ratrace, I thiught the docs said to use
FAT32. I can reformat it - no big deal. what should I use? ext
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1850[17:17:17] <joepublic> Linux gets most of the attention for a
reason.
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1851[17:17:42] <e-psycho> anyone help me with encryped lvm, and
grub, i updated buster and now i'm not being prompted for my
encryption passphrase at boot with the new kernel
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1852[17:17:49] <terr__> I wanted FAT32 so I can access the files
from anything but the truth is I'll never use anything other
than linux to access those files.
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1853[17:18:57] <ratrace> terr__: use ext4 if you don't know
which linux native filesystem to use. FAT32 is needed only for the
ESP if you intend to boot via EFI
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1854[17:19:00] <joepublic> ext 3/4 partitions will behave more as
you probably will expect
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1855[17:19:00] <e-psycho> i can decrypt the partition manually
and access all the data, and chroot into the root partition
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1857[17:19:36] <terr__> originally I had to install from a
windows sytsem because that is all I had - NOT TRUE anymore. I have
debian running. I am far more familiar with linux than windows and
only used windows because I could get a working maching for like
CDN$50 bux
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1858[17:19:54] <terr__> efi is NOT possible.
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1859[17:19:58] <ratrace> e-psycho: did /etc/crypttab change, or
UUIDs it's addressing?
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1860[17:20:03] <terr__> hardware will noit support it.
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1861[17:20:06] <joepublic> no efi, no need for a fat partition
for efi
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1863[17:20:31] <terr__> great!
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1864[17:20:38] <e-psycho> ratrace: ya know, im not sure, at first
i could boot to an old kernel, but then i did something and botched
that up too
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1866[17:21:00] <terr__> okay - so shoudl I unmount the partition
or just reformat with it mounted.
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1867[17:21:18] <ratrace> e-psycho: you'll need to boot or
chroot into the rootfs in order to analyze and fix it.
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1868[17:21:25] <e-psycho> ratrace: yeah, i can do that
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1869[17:21:26] <terr__> I think it HAS to be mounted for
reformatting.
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1873[17:21:59] <ratrace> terr__: you can't
"format" (call mkfs) a device which is mounted
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1874[17:22:06] <ratrace> call mkfs on*
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1875[17:22:10] <terr__> itsfoss.com is full of damn advertizing
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1877[17:22:33] <kiel> S3xyL1nux
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1878[17:22:41] <terr__> no worries. I'll just umount it.
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1879[17:22:49] <terr__> let me try
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1880[17:23:38] <terr__> man mkfs sys it will make ext2
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1882[17:23:56] <ratrace> terr__: use mkfs.ext4
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1883[17:24:13] <terr__> man mkfs says it will make ext2 by
default. this is a tiny partition - just meant to be able to manage
the system for backups.
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1884[17:24:25] <ratrace> terr__: use ext4 unless you know what
you're doing
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1885[17:24:48] <terr__> ratrace. okay. I know you know what you
are talking about. And I have not read up on ext4
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1889[17:25:36] <terr__> this will take a few minutes.
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1890[17:26:01] <Ede|Popede> terr__: i *had* an old ext2 fs on
this pc on squeeze. guess which one took forever to fsck after hard
system reboots.
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1891[17:26:38] <joepublic> excellent advice -> "use ext4
unless you know what you're doing"
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1893[17:28:04] <terr__> running.
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1894[17:28:07] <ratrace> Ede|Popede: ext2 has no journaling so it
was probably corrupt, rotten and damned :)
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1895[17:28:31] <terr__> I do appreciate the help.
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1896[17:28:46] <KaiForce> of course this mofo installation
procedure I carefully crafted failed on the critical system!
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1898[17:29:06] <ratrace> terr__: btw, mkfs.ext4 is just a symlink
to mke2fs which would be called by mkfs -t ext4 so it's all the
same thing. default for mkfs without explicit -t is, indeed, ext2
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1899[17:29:35] <terr__> There we are. its ext4 now! :-)
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1900[17:29:52] <Ede|Popede> ratrace: indeed :)
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1901[17:30:16] <terr__> ya - I saw that. I may be rusty but I
have not forotten everything and its coming back
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1902[17:30:45] <terr__> I have it mounted. I see lost+found. I
have a file system
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1903[17:30:51] <Ede|Popede> one of the nice design patterns in
linux is that some programs change their behavoiour depending on
argv[0]
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1904[17:31:00] <terr__> and the right one to boot! (pardon the
pun)
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1905[17:31:00] <Ede|Popede> terr__: congrats
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1906[17:31:08] <joepublic> busybox is especially good at that
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1907[17:31:14] <Ede|Popede> heh right
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1908[17:31:54] <terr__> Ede|Popede, I also tell my social worker
I would not be here doing this without her help.
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1912[17:33:05] <terr__> okay - now I have not set an active
partition and I do not have gub installed. IE - regardless it is not
bootable. I need to make it bootable. I would normally use
grub-install and debian-install.
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1913[17:33:06] <KaiForce> I think I am baked... No kernel modules
means no disk access, no disk access means I can't copy the new
boot files... I'm going to have to do this install on-site.
*(*&(%&%
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1915[17:34:09] <terr__> KaiForce, I think so.. but ratrace and
others are far closer to god than me.
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1916[17:34:51] <joepublic> please note that I am mostly just a
grumpy loudmouth
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1917[17:34:58] <joepublic> not an expert as such
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1918[17:36:21] <KaiForce> I think I'm a victim of
unfortunate timing... I was using boot files provided to on 1/14 and
I used the same ones on Friday successfully... I see that new boot
files were created yesterday for this system, probably to fix this
problem... I have so much data to copy to this system that it would
be really nice to get it setup today but I have a alternate solution
that it looks like I'm...
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1919[17:36:23] <KaiForce> ...going to have to implement
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1921[17:37:40] <terr__> KaiForce, can you put your hands on the
machine?
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1922[17:37:49] <terr__> or do you hae someone who can?
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1924[17:38:25] <KaiForce> I
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1926[17:39:27] <KaiForce> 20 mile drive... I know I can pulll the
drive and copy the boot files to it and resolve this...
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1931[17:40:29] <e-psycho> ratrace: any suggestions on how to fix
the encrypted lvm root partition grub problem
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1932[17:40:44] <terr__> do you use a car or a bicycle?
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1933[17:41:00] <KaiForce> both, why? it is winter here so car now
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1934[17:41:23] <ratrace> e-psycho: I already told you what to
check, /etc/crypttab UUIDs. But, first, actually describe
what's going on really. boot fails complaining it can't
find rootfs and it never prompted for the passphrase?
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1936[17:42:49] <e-psycho> i already checked the uuid in
/etc/crypttab, looks the same as it always has, i am not being
prompted for a decryption passphrase at boot
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1937[17:43:26] <terr__> TrustedInstaller just started up AGAIN
(this machine is windows 7). It might not be for long
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1938[17:43:26] <KaiForce> e-psycho: do the UUIDs match the
partition?
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1940[17:43:44] <ratrace> e-psycho: do you have
"initramfs" in crypttab options?
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1941[17:44:11] <e-psycho> yes, its /dev/sda5 that is encrypted
and contains the lvm root partion, as well as swap and my /home
partitions
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1942[17:44:26] <e-psycho> that devices uuid is what is in
/etc/crypttab
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1943[17:45:37] <e-psycho> at boot, i get "Cannot process
volume group" and "Volume Group "Saros-vg" not
found"
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1945[17:46:32] <e-psycho> but i got those errors before i updated
and everything still worked, e.g. i was still prompted for a
passphrase and able to boot the system
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1949[17:47:58] <KaiForce> thanks for the help everyone... the
system i installed Friday is an exact duplicate of the system I was
trying to install Debian on today.. I will change its configuration
and put it into the "critical" role and deal with my
broken machine tomorrow...
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1969[17:58:02] <e-psycho> not sure which thing i f***** up, but
maybe that can help identify my problem
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1975[17:59:12] <e-psycho> yes, cryptsetup and
cryptsetup-initramfs are installed
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1976[17:59:12] <ratrace> e-psycho: do you have
"initramfs" in crypttab options?
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1979[17:59:47] <e-psycho> no, i don't believe so
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1980[17:59:57] <ratrace> try adding it
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1981[18:01:22] <ratrace> and of course don't forget to
rebuild initramfs from the chroot
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1982[18:01:34] <e-psycho> ok, what is proper format for that?
just a comma and the option?
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1985[18:02:01] <e-psycho> e.g. sda5_crypt UUID=someUUID none
luks,initramfs ???
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1986[18:02:06] <e-psycho> or space
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1990[18:02:16] <ratrace> e-psycho: luks,initramfs
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1992[18:03:30] <e-psycho> ah, now i get a new message while
rebuilding initramfs
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1993[18:03:42] <terr__> ratrace, lord linux is nice. It feels
good to be home. (and I actually wrote a poem on this for my son
when he was 6)
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1994[18:03:50] <ratrace> e-psycho: pastebin pls
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1995[18:04:08] <terr__> I just forgot most of the commands.
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1998[18:05:05] <terr__> would I be correct assuming that _all_ SD
cards regardless of manufacturer are the same size? ie - if they are
say 32 GiBs
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2001[18:05:36] <ratrace> e-psycho: did you unlock sda5 as
sda5_crypt for the chroot?
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2002[18:06:14] <e-psycho> no, i did "cryptsetup luksOpen
/dev/sda5 linux"
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2005[18:07:07] <e-psycho> prob should have done that differently
i assume
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2006[18:07:08] <ratrace> e-psycho: no good. initramfs crypto
hooks require the entry in crypttab to exist in /dev/mapper at the
moment of invocation. you'll have to unmount the chroot and
reopen the LUKS container as sda5_crypt
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2007[18:07:23] <e-psycho> ok, i'll give it a go
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2009[18:07:28] <e-psycho> thanks for the help btw
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2010[18:07:35] <ratrace> no bother
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2016[18:09:10] <OS-63186> hi debian
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2017[18:09:15] <terr__> I am resizing this partition - its about
32GiB and I am thinking - set to the smallest of the media I might
use: smallest is a USB pendrive and fdisk shows 60437492 sectors. IS
there any reason I should not use this number?
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2018[18:10:16] <ratrace> terr__: that is ~30GB assuming 512b
sectors
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2019[18:10:16] <terr__> original was 62851072
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2020[18:10:49] <terr__> ya - but linux and fdisk let me work in
#sectors. Windows wouldn't even show me this information.
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2023[18:11:18] <terr__> ^^ fdisk -l
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2024[18:11:31] <ratrace> I prefer parted. it can use sectors or
mega,mebi,giga,gibi bytes, whatever you select
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2025[18:11:49] <terr__> well - I'm in fdisk.
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2030[18:15:05] <e-psycho> ratrace: heeeey, no errors running
update-initramfs this time
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2031[18:15:40] <ratrace> yup
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2032[18:16:06] <KaiForce> exit
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2034[18:16:19] <terr__> I ask for +60437492 and fdisk gives me
60437493
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2036[18:18:25] <terr__> I am thinking. I might copy a 32 GiB SD
or USB pendrive ONTO this HDD (1 TB) but I will NEVER copy from the
HDD to either... or would I? Why would I want to?
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2037[18:18:32] <e-psycho> ratrace: asking me for my passphrase
now, thanks a lot, seems i might have bigger problems
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2041[18:21:34] <wwilliam> anyone here uses vpnc connection from
command line?
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2042[18:21:55] <e-psycho> a lot of things are failing to start
now, and thats preventing the system from booting normally i guess
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2043[18:22:45] <wwilliam> how do i install this in buster?
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2044[18:22:46] <wwilliam> The VPN service
'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.l2tp' was not
installed."
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2046[18:23:56] <terr__> ratrace, I am goign to leave all this
partitioning as it is. I am over thinking myself - looking for
ghosts where none my be. I can change it later if I find a reason to
do so.
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2047[18:23:59] <wwilliam> Feb 09 12:22:15 Inspiron
NetworkManager[811]: <info> [1581268935.0196] audit:
op="connection-activate"
uuid="15faf4c0-225c-41b1-8102-a523d582b2d1"
name="CCS" pid=6333 uid=1000 result="fail"
reason="The VPN service
'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.l2tp' was not
installed."
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2053[18:28:25] <terr__> This makes no sense! the instuctions say
- partition then use debootstrap - but - debootstrap cannot create
the boot steps. 1st is MBR where the available partitions and
operating system are noted and the 2nd step is the actual loader
pulling in the selected os... NONE of those addresses nor where they
are stored are available to debootstrap
replaced-url
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2061[18:31:42] <e-psycho> ok, i am apparently back to my original
problem, before f'ed up my booting
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2063[18:32:01] <e-psycho> anyone know what this "unknown
rela relocation: 4" message means
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2065[18:32:24] <countdr> e-psycho: program?
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2066[18:32:31] <e-psycho> i get it when trying to build the
nvidia drivers, but also vbox module is doing it too
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2067[18:33:12] <sbug> wwilliam: There is a package named
'network-manager-l2tp' you can install
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2068[18:33:13] <e-psycho> i read something that indicated it
might have to do with the buildutils package, and that downgrading
it might help, but there aren't any lesser version numbers
available in the repos
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2072[18:34:18] <countdr> The nvidia headers are very small
though.
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2073[18:34:42] <roiredX> copying a backup of the EFI partition
back to the EFI partition would help to let the windows bootloader
where windows is?
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2074[18:34:43] <ratrace> terr__: 1st you partition the disk. then
you mkfs appropriate filesystems. if /boot is a mountpoint, you
mkdir and mount it into the rootfs mounted filesystem, then you run
debootstrap on the rootfs mountpoint
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2075[18:35:11] <roiredX> let the windows bootloader know where
windows is?
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2076[18:35:13] <countdr> roiredX you may do that. If it is same
size
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2077[18:35:17] <ratrace> terr__: then you mount procfs, devtmpfs,
sysfs and chroot into it, then from within it you install the kernel
and grub.
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2081[18:36:32] <kreyren> How can i install rustlang backend on
debian?
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2082[18:36:35] <kreyren> apt install rustc ?
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2084[18:37:17] <terr__> ratrace, yes. /boot is a mount point and
in my case it lives on sdb. The drive I am installing to is sdc. sdc
is empty. I just repartitioned it and set sdc3 to ext4 it lives on
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2087[18:37:44] <countdr> kreyren: apt-cache show rustc
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2088[18:38:04] <ratrace> terr__: if sdc is empty, why not have
everything linux related (boot and rootfs) on it? and why separate
/boot ? do you intend to encrypt rootfs or something?
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2089[18:38:11] <kreyren> countdr, ty
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2090[18:38:13] <terr__> okay - from within. That makes sense.
what commands within?
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2094[18:38:53] <roiredX> ratrace, sometimes /boot needs to be a
separate partition, in my case, Silverblue, it does
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2095[18:38:57] <terr__> Nope - simple - I want grub to come up
and let me choose to boot sdc3. Nothing special at all.
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2096[18:39:22] <ratrace> terr__: then you don't need to
separate /boot. KISS
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2097[18:39:25] <sbug> kreyren: you probably want the latest rust
since it is developing so fast. There is an installaer you can
download and it will isntall rust in your home dir. See
replaced-url
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2099[18:39:52] <kreyren> sbug, i'm setting up tests for
debian build so i need debian-way of getting rust backend
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2100[18:40:02] <ratrace> roiredX: that'd be the "or
something" in my question
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2101[18:40:03] <sbug> kreyren: ok
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2103[18:40:37] <terr__> roiredX, yes - it likely does have to be
in your case. In my case and you can check fdisk -l here:
replaced-url
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2104[18:41:28] <ratrace> terr__: you could've still used
GPT, even if you don't EFI
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2107[18:42:07] <terr__> ratrace, yup. I am placing linux in a
boot partition - no reason not to.
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2109[18:42:24] <ratrace> you what?
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2110[18:42:41] <roiredX> ratrace, terr__ , I see. countdr I just
delete the actual files (presumed messed) from the actual EFI, and
copy the "working" backup, that could do?
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2111[18:42:56] <terr__> ratrace, I don't think this bois
will even support it - and it doesn't make any difference on
this disk. Its a backup disk that ends in a bank safty deposit box
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2114[18:43:49] <countdr> roiredX: That will only boot MS Windows
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2116[18:44:35] <terr__> roiredX, if its jsut the contents of the
files. But remember - the boot loaders have to use sector addressing
- the procedure is load the sector into memory and branch into it -
that is all the boot loaders can do.
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2117[18:44:41] <roiredX> countdr, this BM has 2 efi partitions, a
windows one on drive B and a linux/haiku one on drive A
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2118[18:45:03] <roiredX> so it is a bit messy..
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2119[18:45:17] <roiredX> I see terr__ , more complicated
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2120[18:45:17] <countdr> Drive A has different size to drive B
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2122[18:45:37] <roiredX> drive A has a windows EFI partition and
window system partition
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2123[18:45:46] <roiredX> drive B
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2124[18:45:47] <terr__> roiredX, remeber - I did this 20 years
ago using CHS addressing! and FAT32 did not exist.
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2125[18:46:10] <roiredX> drive A has linux/haiku efi partition,
and fedora lvm plus /boot partition
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2127[18:46:15] <roiredX> drive C has haiku partition
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2128[18:46:25] <countdr> roiredX: I advise you to turn off and
disconnect one drive. Less risk
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2129[18:46:26] <roiredX> is a bit messy due to silverblue's
boot peculiarities
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2130[18:46:36] <roiredX> countdr, XD
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2133[18:47:26] <terr__> roiredX, you are way more complicated
than what I face... and I still ahve not figured out how to install
grub on that new drive. I think what I will do is get debootstrap
running. it will take a while... and I've got the ext4
partition ready to mount.
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2134[18:48:08] <roiredX> terr__, XD, yep... a bit complex of a
setup here...
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2137[18:49:20] <terr__> roiredX, well multiboot NT3.5 4.0 OS/2
warp and Linux was complicated as well.
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2138[18:49:47] <HiddenDjinn> yeah, it was
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2139[18:49:48] <roiredX> well, that is the old times.. OS/2
Warp... the 90's
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2141[18:50:20] <roiredX> I also did test OS/2, as well as BeOS
back then
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2142[18:50:28] <roiredX> XD
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2145[18:50:47] <terr__> install an OS. use dd and copy the boot
sector. install the next os, use dd and lift the boot sector.
Eventually tell LILO where the boot sectors were copied to and all
has to be withing the first (I don't remember) sectors. Ugghh.
But it worked
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2147[18:51:13] <e-psycho> ratrace: got her all fixed up, thanks
again for the help, i spent hours googling before i decided to ask
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2148[18:51:26] <roiredX> LILO!!! wow... long time no see XD
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2149[18:51:46] <HiddenDjinn> i remember installing a 3rd party
boot selector
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2150[18:51:46] <terr__> yup ELO wrote a song about the good old
1980s and lamented his computer wasn't IBM.
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2151[18:52:16] <terr__> I'll bet that old computer still
runs!
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2153[18:53:09] <terr__> ya - I did that in the 1990's.
Bought my first comeputer for over $10,000 1986 the day the space
shuttle blew up.
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2155[18:53:51] <annadane> challenger was your fault!
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2157[18:54:06] <HiddenDjinn> if only nasa had that computer...lol
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2158[18:54:30] <dudz> first pc for me was a cyrax 233mhz, i only
bought the motherboard+cpu+ram as a combo from a computer fair,
second hand hw, scrounged a case and hdd from around the house
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2159[18:55:02] <HiddenDjinn> my first ibm-compatible was a 486dx2
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2160[18:55:34] <HiddenDjinn> my first computer was a trs-80 color
computer 3
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2161[18:55:51] <dudz> born 1985 here
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2164[18:56:14] <HiddenDjinn> dudz, i'm not much older, born
in 78
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2165[18:56:26] <dudz> .o/
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2166[18:56:33] <roiredX> the first one I used was the HP-86B,
then the touch screen HP-150
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2168[18:56:37] <roiredX> none mine, though...
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2169[18:56:51] <countdr> My first Linux was AMD 800 Mhz
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2171[18:56:55] <terr__> there I am. My mount point is /buster!!!
of all choices of names eh. debootstrap buster /buster <---
should do it. should I be in root?
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2172[18:56:56] <roiredX> I'm going to run a test at reboot,
BRB
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2173[18:57:03] <HiddenDjinn> oh, first one i used was the old
trs-80 that connected to the television screen
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2175[18:57:09] <HiddenDjinn> then apple iie
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2182[18:58:41] <terr__> this isn't even the fun stuff yet.
As churchhill said: this is not the beginning. Its not even the
beginning of the beginning.
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2184[18:59:05] <terr__> I have Raspian to go and then get it
talking to arduinos
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2188[19:00:06] <terr__> running as root. Should be jest fine
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2190[19:01:43] <terr__> script should check if running as root
and make a comment for newbies like me.
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2191[19:02:26] <terr__> I am very anal. I will not poke my finger
into a light socket until I know a lot about the socket.
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2192[19:02:52] <annadane> how about not sticking fingers into any
sockets?
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2194[19:03:57] <terr__> how is anyone suppose to talk to a socket
if you are afraid of sticking your finger in?
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2197[19:04:40] <joepublic> I have got along pretty well not
talking to sockets via my electrified finger.
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2198[19:04:42] <hamilton> S3xyL1nux inlove with whores world wide
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2200[19:05:13] <countdr> Linux is cheap
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2201[19:05:38] <terr__> I don't get it. top says 550 cpu(s)
and the display said 100%
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2203[19:05:58] <HelloShitty> Hello everyone
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2206[19:06:10] <joepublic> you have an rpi with 550 cpus? it must
be huge
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2207[19:06:15] <HelloShitty> Can anyone tell me what is the
difference of installing some package using apt and using dpkg ?
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2208[19:06:18] <terr__> s/550/50%/ I have a sticky key
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2209[19:06:27] <countdr> apt is quick
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2210[19:06:28] <joepublic> apt resolves dependencies and dpkg
doesn't.
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2211[19:06:28] <annadane> HelloShitty, apt is a higher level,
user friendly tool
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2212[19:06:31] <annadane> also that
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2215[19:06:48] <HelloShitty> hum, ok, thanks
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2216[19:07:17] <annadane> (also, how do you still have that irc
name without having been asked to change it)
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2217[19:07:54] <countdr> terr__: Top works for me. I have 2 cores
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2218[19:08:02] <terr__> this is running - looking great so far.
But I wonder how big it will be.
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2219[19:08:37] <countdr> terr__ htop has a break down into
separate cores
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2220[19:08:39] <terr__> this atom THINKS it has 2 cores. It
doesn't - it has 2 instruction queue initiators
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2221[19:09:07] <countdr> terr__ htop would show 550 gauges
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2222[19:09:07] <terr__> My other machines have 4 REAL cores...
much faster
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2223[19:09:49] <terr__> thing is this old $50 machine still works
and likely will do the job for everything I need to do!
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2224[19:10:18] <countdr> $50 x 550 that is expensive
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2226[19:10:42] <terr__> $50 per machine. NO KIDDING.
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2228[19:11:21] <terr__> I got a new S9 cell phone from the phone
company for $240
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2231[19:11:56] <kreyren> What package do i need on debian to
resolve this?
replaced-url
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2232[19:11:58] <countdr> How cheap are phone chips? The cost of
the phone is the battery
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2234[19:12:12] <terr__> $10 per month... and then they PhDed the
bills. ANd I am not going to fix them unless they pay me.
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2239[19:13:42] <terr__> noooo this one has some glass and a
plastic case. But I think you are pretty close. Phone company
probably gets them for $5 bux
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2245[19:16:12] <terr__> this is going to take a while.
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2246[19:16:26] <terr__> Time for me to take a break.
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2254[19:18:41] <roiredX> test failed
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2256[19:19:03] <roiredX> copying old working efi files
didn't let windows boot...
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2260[19:21:06] <roiredX> well... looks like BackupFiles+Reinstall
everything
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2263[19:22:03] <terr__> roiredX, what was the message?
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2265[19:22:19] <roiredX> no message...
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2266[19:22:38] <terr__> so iut just blinked its cursor and looked
stupid?
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2268[19:22:42] <roiredX> actually.. if I try to boot windows, it
starts the circle of dots
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2270[19:22:53] <roiredX> and then, screen enters powersave mode
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2271[19:22:59] <roiredX> and there it is
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2272[19:23:05] <roiredX> 4ever
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2273[19:23:08] <roiredX> same for Haiku
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2276[19:23:42] <terr__> I ask in ##windows (since you are in W10)
- they don't like me there! Someone might know the boot stage
when you see dot dot dot
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2278[19:24:33] <terr__> I suspect it needs the address of the 2nd
stage boot loader adn if it has that then it needs the address of
the kernel.
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2280[19:24:59] <terr__> You likely _can_ scan the disk looking
for the signature.
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2284[19:25:09] <roiredX> the installation media didn't solve
the issue either
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2287[19:25:29] <roiredX> uff, I don't know that much, terr__
XD
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2289[19:25:44] <roiredX> I presume was last Haiku update
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2290[19:25:46] <terr__> ohhh! Base system installed successfully
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2292[19:26:01] <roiredX> as no info on haiku boot when calling
efibootmgr
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2299[19:28:09] <terr__> roiredX, I don't know if I would
look to do it that way. Its sort of like you need to use dd and read
the partition. Issue is you need the sector address
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2302[19:29:10] <terr__> There likely is a util to do it. I know
with work I could write one. My friend Jan would just spin it off -
but then she wrote unix device drivers
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2305[19:29:51] <terr__> I don't know even what to google.
But there are real pros here!
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2306[19:30:09] <roiredX> i've been googling all afternoon...
XD
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2310[19:30:49] <terr__> let me try - give me about 55 minutes. I
want to see if there is a kernel installed
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2311[19:31:39] <terr__> Nope - /boot is EMPTY
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2314[19:32:31] <boku> asda
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2315[19:32:52] <terr__> okay = I can tackle that later. it likely
will be really simple. This stuff is sort of like a religeon you
know. Jesus could walk on water. How? He knew where the stepping
stones were
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2361[20:01:56] <nils_> I'm having an issue with mdadm, when
creating a device it seems there are no longer any devices created
in /dev/md/, I'm pretty sure this worked in the past. Is there
a way to get them to appear?
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2364[20:04:26] <nils_> Alternatively, do the names md127, md126
stay persistent?
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2367[20:05:25] <Akuw> hi, how do the banks make backup? they use
a mirror and one mirror externa?
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2371[20:07:46] <nils_> Akuw, mirror is not a backup, strictly
speaking.
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2373[20:09:02] <nils_> Akuw, are you looking for a backup
strategy or just curios?
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2374[20:09:28] <Akuw> i have a home work and i have to plan bank
backup strategy
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2375[20:09:44] <Akuw> big amount of data
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2377[20:10:17] <Akuw> so, i guess there should be a local
incremental backup and one external but that external should be
deferential and sync
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2378[20:10:19] <Akuw> ?
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2380[20:11:18] <Akuw> incremental
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2381[20:12:13] <Akuw> then Full backup and Incremental Backup
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2384[20:13:41] <Akuw> and mirror too
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2386[20:14:15] <nils_> it really depends on what kind of failure
you want to defend against. 3-2-1 is a strategy often used.
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2389[20:15:20] <Akuw> 3-2-1 ?
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2390[20:15:23] <nils_> mirror is great for hardware failure, then
you can use different storage media (optical and magnetic for
example) since they are sensitive to different influences, then you
can use different geographic locations
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2391[20:15:24] <GNU\colossus> Akuw, forget solutions that make
you devise a plan of alternating between "full" and
"incremental" backups. there's better solutions
available. look at BorgBackup and restic, for example.
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2392[20:15:48] <Akuw> hummm
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2393[20:15:59] <Akuw> let me seee, that is used by banks?
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2395[20:16:15] <nils_> I wouldn't use banks as an example,
their tech is usually ancient and horrid ;)
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2396[20:16:34] <Akuw> hehehehehe
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2397[20:16:42] <nils_> what sort of backup strategy you use also
depends on the type and amount of data
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2398[20:17:01] <Akuw> well, scenario is a Financial Company
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2399[20:17:12] <nils_> so security is a must
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2405[20:19:36] <nils_> Culled from the net, A 3-2-1 strategy
means having at least 3 total copies of your data, 2 of which are
local but on different mediums, and at least 1 copy offsite
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2410[20:20:57] <nils_> And with financial companies I guess it
also depends on what kind of company, insurance, banking, brokerage,
stock exchange, check cashing place ;)
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2411[20:21:49] <Akuw> let talk about Baking
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2412[20:21:56] <Akuw> Banking
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2413[20:23:23] <nils_> usually a country has regulation regarding
that.
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2419[20:28:35] <ealfonso> I discovered this morning my debian 10
VPS had rebooted unexpectedly. Looking at syslog, the only strange
thing I noticed was a break consisting of many
"^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^"
chars.
replaced-url
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2425[20:31:24] <nils_> ealfonso, figuring out why it was reset is
probably the first step. Some providers unfortunately do this
without notice or don't tell you.
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2427[20:32:19] <nils_> ealfonso, having some garbage at the end
of the log file can happen if it wasn't closed cleanly and the
filesystem not unmounted cleanly
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2430[20:33:38] <ealfonso> nils_ thanks. I will contact the
provider and ask.
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2432[20:35:18] <ratrace> ealfonso: what about the journal?
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2437[20:43:05] <ealfonso> ratrace currently the journal's
first entry (via journalctl) is after the restart.
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2448[20:48:13] <ratrace> ealfonso: do you have /var/log/kern.log?
I can't remember if that's default or not
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2449[20:48:29] <isarn> so launching a application from the
desktop is an 'insecure location' ?
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2451[20:49:12] <ratrace> isarn: what?
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2454[20:49:55] <isarn> "untrusted application location"
when I start app via desktop ratrace
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2456[20:50:42] <ratrace> isarn: that's gonna need a bit more
context. which application, how are you starting it "via
desktop", what is giving that message?
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2457[20:51:02] <isarn> all of them
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2458[20:51:17] <isarn> pulled them onto desktop from xfce4 pull
down menu
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2461[20:51:39] <isarn> ratrace: I double click the icon on the
desktop
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2463[20:51:54] <Guest50> Hi, I get a text file that looks like
this:
replaced-url
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2464[20:52:27] <ratrace> isarn:
replaced-url
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2475[20:56:39] <isarn> oh so maybe it is any file not in
/usr/sbin hence might have been installed in error as .exe ?
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2476[20:56:47] <roiredX> well.. no success
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2477[20:56:59] <roiredX> tried to fix grub from a liveusb
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2478[20:57:07] <roiredX> from a chroot...
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2479[20:57:10] <roiredX> nothing
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2481[20:57:11] <qorg11> don't use a chroot
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2482[20:57:20] <qorg11> in a liveusb
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2483[20:57:25] <qorg11> # apt install grub2
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2484[20:57:32] <roiredX> too late qorg11
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2485[20:57:39] <qorg11> # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
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2486[20:57:50] <qorg11> # grub-install --root=/mnt /dev/sda
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2487[20:57:52] <roiredX> can't apt... i'm on fedora and
on efi
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2488[20:57:52] <qorg11> and that should work
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2489[20:57:55] <qorg11> oh
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2490[20:58:03] <qorg11> then # dnf install grub2
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2491[20:58:09] <qorg11> should be the same process
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2493[20:58:25] <roiredX> you are right about that
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2494[20:58:31] <roiredX> :)
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2495[20:58:55] <qorg11> a chroot won't work
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2497[20:58:59] <qorg11> instead do that
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2498[20:59:15] <roiredX> ok... let me write down and reboot
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2499[20:59:29] <qorg11> or you can just ctrl+d to exit the chroot
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2502[21:00:03] <roiredX> i'm not on the live usb now
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2503[21:00:20] <roiredX> i have an issue that i can't change
screen resolution
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2504[21:00:30] <roiredX> and i presume has to do with grub
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2505[21:00:34] <qorg11> oh
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2506[21:00:39] <qorg11> xrandr?
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2507[21:00:41] <roiredX> can't change anywhere
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2508[21:00:43] <roiredX> wayland
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2510[21:00:46] <roiredX> :D
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2511[21:00:56] <qorg11> X11 works?
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2512[21:01:05] <roiredX> mmm.. let me check
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2518[21:03:24] <roiredX> qorg11, well, X11 even worse
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2519[21:03:51] <roiredX> max resolution, as wayland 1280x800, and
not using the whole screen
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2520[21:04:08] <qorg11> and what it's supposed to be your
resolution?
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2521[21:04:17] <roiredX> 3440x1440
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2523[21:04:50] <roiredX> weird stuff going on
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2524[21:04:53] <qorg11> xrandr -s 3440x1440 works?
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2525[21:05:22] <roiredX> let me check
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2526[21:05:23] <roiredX> brb
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2532[21:07:39] <roiredX> qorg11, nope... this issue is more
serious than expected
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2533[21:07:42] <roiredX> XD
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2534[21:07:49] <roiredX> mode not available.
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2536[21:07:55] <jsync> Hey. Are source files still available for
creating a Jessie mirror?
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2537[21:08:13] <roiredX> thanks qorg11, terr__
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2538[21:08:21] <qorg11> Did it work?
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2539[21:08:25] <roiredX> nope
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2541[21:08:32] <roiredX> mode not available
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2543[21:08:54] <roiredX> I'm going to call it a day for
today... have to cook dinner and get some rest
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2544[21:09:01] <qorg11> see ya
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2545[21:09:01] <roiredX> XD
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2548[21:09:14] <roiredX> thx
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2549[21:09:14] <roiredX> bye
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2638[22:09:02] <tomg> Does Debian's exim do STARTTLS by
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2651[22:13:39] <tomg> i just did a wireshark and it does, at
least on outgoing :)
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2654[22:14:16] <tomg> thanks though :)
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2665[22:17:56] <FJDelgado> Hi!
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2676[22:23:32] <FJDelgado> I have a partition with encrypted lvm
on a SSD disk with 120gb, and I have another disk HDD with 1TB, I
want to extend the home partition from the SSD disk to the entire
HDD, do you know if this can be done?
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2678[22:24:05] <karlpinc> FJDelgado: You can if you're using
LVM.
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2679[22:24:22] <FJDelgado> I am, but don't find any tutorial
of how2
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2680[22:24:38] <FJDelgado> Encrypted LVM, exactly
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rather the encrypted device that corresponds to your ssd. Your HDD
should be one too.
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2924[22:26:12] <karlpinc> FJDelgado: You then add the HDD pv to
the volume group (vg) of which your home directory logical volume
(lv) is a part.
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2947[22:26:47] <FJDelgado> karlpinc, do yo have any link to a
tutorial or what to look for on google?
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2956[22:27:03] <karlpinc> FJDelgado: To do that you "man
vgextend".
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2962[22:27:15] <FJDelgado> thx!!!
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2967[22:27:28] <karlpinc> FJDelgado: (Assuming your hd is already
encrypted and is a pv.)
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(lvextend -L +XXXG say) your lv that is your home dir. (man
lvextend)
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fs on your home dir. (resize2fs /dev/....) The default is to make it
larger to match your new lv size. (man resize2fs). (Assuming
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