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6 [00:00:40] <Prutheus> Hello! I have a problem on my dell xps
13 9360. I have a little screen freeze every ~10 secs, on hdmi
display via D3100 docking station, via usb-c-to-hdmi and on the
laptop screen. Everytime it lags, I get an message in my journal:
replaced-url
7 [00:00:46] <Prutheus> dark/disabled after some little time,
the brightness get zero'ed)
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27 [00:12:06] <CutMeOwnThroat> Try it on a different docking
station…
28 [00:12:28] <CutMeOwnThroat> or a different display or both
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98 [00:42:53] <aboAC> hi
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101 [00:44:02] <aboAC> How to connect mobile broadband using
terminal? user & pass & ip
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130 [00:54:26] <fodinabor> hey, I have a quite serious problem
with my debian vps - I just tried to configure the Firewall via
Parallels Power Panel - but I'm getting errors when setting
access rules. right now the only access I have is via the Power
Panel, SSH Apache and co are not accessible via the network..
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132 [00:54:36] <fodinabor> any tips?
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164 [01:08:39] <fodinabor> when I try to create a rule I get:
Failed to add the firewall rule to the Input chain.
165 [01:08:39] <fodinabor> Error saving the iptables information
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340 [02:56:05] <breakaway> Instalé debian en
341 [02:56:05] <breakaway> Inglés ¿Cómo
cambio al español?
342 [02:56:10] <missmbob> !es
343 [02:56:10] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en
Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en
Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join
#debian-es en la línea de chat.
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397 [03:34:56] <NightMonkey> Howdy. I seem to have a corrupted
/var/lib/pkgs/diversions file. Is there a mechanism to regenerate
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456 [04:08:45] <sudosudosudo> Anyone know how I can move from
gnome 3 to the debian default desktop environment
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458 [04:09:00] <missmbob> gnome 3 is default
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461 [04:09:48] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: for debian 8.6 stable?
462 [04:09:52] <missmbob> yes
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469 [04:21:35] <Neobenedict> hi guys
470 [04:21:49] <Neobenedict> anyone know good software for
setting up a managed dc hub (ie invite only)
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472 [04:21:57] <Neobenedict> with accounts
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474 [04:22:56] <squarecircle> hello, how do I bind the virtualbox
rdp server to a single ip?
475 [04:23:01] <squarecircle> I just threw an nmap on my vm host
and realized, that virtualbox offers the vms rdp on every
interface/ip
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509 [04:46:18] <squarecircle> o/
510 [04:48:01] <Lostfile> \o
511 [04:48:28] <Lostfile> \o/
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513 [04:48:45] <Lostfile> \o\
514 [04:48:53] <Lostfile> o
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573 [05:40:52] <kang0> Who can offer me laptop
574 [05:41:04] <kang0> and (work)
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577 [05:42:31] <jak2000> kang0 you know about bind?
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579 [05:42:41] <kang0> Never heard
580 [05:42:45] <kang0> What's It
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583 [05:43:16] <kang0> jak2000
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585 [05:43:23] <jak2000> thx
586 [05:43:40] <kang0> Dns
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588 [05:43:44] <jak2000> yes
589 [05:43:46] <kang0> Google said
590 [05:43:53] <kang0> Not me
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592 [05:44:12] <kang0> Is it like dyndns
593 [05:44:27] <sorin-mihai> can anyone that has a luks encrypted
root on lvm pastebin the grub config?
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599 [05:48:30] <kang0> What about bind? jak2000
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602 [05:50:20] <jak2000> kang0 acept a pm?
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605 [05:52:02] <jak2000> see line 133:
replaced-url
606 [05:52:10] <jak2000> how to remove this ip? its a old old
607 [05:52:13] <jak2000> dns
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609 [05:53:07] <ZeroBeholder> jak2000: I had to edit my
/etc/ports or /etc/apache2/ports once -- some ports file was all
jacked up. It is probably not the solution you need-- but it is a
place to look for shenanigans.
610 [05:53:10] <kang0> Don't ask me about pm never ask
please
611 [05:53:11] <kang0> Just pm anytime
612 [05:53:24] <kang0> I am not your boss
613 [05:53:36] <kang0> Nor any special person
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617 [05:56:54] <ZeroBeholder> kang0: Yes, you are. And I complain
to the guys about your extreme 'hands off' managerial
style. You're likely to never win a Dundie (
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626 [06:04:26] <jak2000> ZeroBeholder i havent these
files/directories
627 [06:04:26] <jak2000> :(
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634 [06:08:14] <unborn> is there any way to enable numlock on
gnome login screen in debian?
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636 [06:10:24] <missmbob> unborn:
replaced-url
637 [06:10:53] <unborn> missmbob: thank you!
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666 [06:42:12] <ZeroBeholder> jak2000: /etc/apache2/ports.conf --
my particular issue was that it only was doing it's higher
level listening on IPV6...
667 [06:43:07] <GabeTheDog> I need help recovering a deleted,
possibly overwritten file. I'd like to recover as much as
possible, if possible
668 [06:43:34] <ZeroBeholder> Don't turn off the system,
unmount it.
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670 [06:44:00] <ZeroBeholder> Then copy it. Then use tools.
671 [06:44:16] <Rusty1_> google extundelete
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673 [06:44:47] <GabeTheDog> couldnt unmount, it was my home
directory in the root filesystem. i shut it down and am currently on
a live medium. ive tried debugfs then lsdel and such
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675 [06:44:57] <ZeroBeholder> It's been a while, can I get a
second opinion for Gabe...
676 [06:46:08] <GabeTheDog> background: i had a raspbian image
file backup "raspbian-backup.img". i was trying to use
openssl to hash the file (instead of sha1sum), got the syntax wrong,
and started outputting to the raspbain image
677 [06:47:15] <ZeroBeholder> There was this recovery CD that
used to 'recover' files that were contiguous blocks and
then I think a better one came out that would also pick up fragments
so the files could be scattered on the disk.
678 [06:48:00] <GabeTheDog> openssl dgst -sha1 -r -out
raspbian-backup.img (i thought i had everything in its place, but
realized too late that the program was getting data from nowehere
and outputting to the img location. a ran ls afterward to check
damage, rasp was a 0 byte file
679 [06:48:50] <GabeTheDog> debugfs, lsdel said no deleted
innodes, and im currently running "grep -a -A800 -B800
'rasbian-back' /dev/sda5 | strings >
recovered_file"
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685 [06:50:55] <ZeroBeholder> PhotoRec and I believe it would
recover more than just photos.
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687 [06:51:29] <ZeroBeholder> Well, the bootable CD would have
photo rec on it.
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692 [06:53:36] <GabeTheDog> now running photorec
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698 [06:57:01] <ZeroBeholder> GabeTheDog: Trinity Rescue Disk
looks like it also has file recovery tools on it.
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700 [06:57:22] <GabeTheDog> do you think the file is deleted? or
overwritten?
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706 [07:00:23] <ZeroBeholder> There is a good chance with the
command you ran that it did. -out is usually a 'writing'
switch. But, you have the somewhat rare opportunity to prove DoD
wipes are worthwhile...
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709 [07:01:14] <GabeTheDog> prove DoD wipes are
worthwhile..."
710 [07:01:33] <GabeTheDog> *"prove DoD wipes are
worthwhile..." please elaborate?
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714 [07:05:47] <ZeroBeholder> Dod wipes are several passes of
overwriting-- it looks like you may have only completed one or a
partial pass. If you recover data-- then maybe those multiple passes
of the disk head mangling the bits is necessary.
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716 [07:06:25] <GabeTheDog> i wasnt trying to wipe data
717 [07:06:43] <GabeTheDog> that command is to run a hash
function and output the data to file
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719 [07:07:07] <GabeTheDog> stupid me put the file i wanted to
hash where the log file name should have been
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722 [07:07:50] <GabeTheDog> so the program did as it thought i
wanted. started grabbing input from stdin, hashing it, and logging
to the filename
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784 [07:50:50] <Stiffler> polaris is horriable IRC client
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792 [07:52:51] <ZeroBeholder> I'll take your word for it.
Chatzilla Firefox plugin just got a snazzy looking update... I like
it. Autologs me in, I like the way it looks. I'm old, it is too
late for me. --Save yourselves!
793 [07:53:03] <missmbob> it's polari. and the guy from the
movie is stifler :P
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796 [07:55:08] <Stiffler> :)
797 [07:55:17] <Stiffler> i hate that client >.<
798 [07:55:30] <missmbob> i do too. it needs to be taken out and
shot
799 [07:55:38] <ZeroBeholder> missmbob: thanks for the numlock
tip I had forgotten to fix for over a year.
800 [07:55:39] <Stiffler> exactly
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802 [07:56:09] <Stiffler> hey pls give me some tip how to get my
numlock automatically on when i log in .. i had forgotten
803 [07:56:39] <ZeroBeholder> Might be fixed now. We'll see
next time I boot up.
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805 [07:56:50] <Stiffler> how to fix it?
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807 [07:57:10] <Stiffler> numlock during boot as for now i have
to manually set it on
808 [07:57:16] <ZeroBeholder>
replaced-url
809 [07:57:22] <missmbob> ZeroBeholder: heh, nice
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811 [07:57:55] <ZeroBeholder> Yeah, mine was set to off since I
reloaded and wasn't in the BIOS like I was used to seeing.
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815 [07:58:55] <ZeroBeholder> Nice to know there's a
software way to deal with it.
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819 [07:59:10] <nerftrailparkher> he;llo
820 [07:59:14] <nerftrailparkher> whats good
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823 [07:59:43] <nerftrailparkher> ANYONE THERE
824 [08:00:03] <awal1> nerftrailparkher, do you have any debian
related question?
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827 [08:00:36] <nerftrailparkher> debian vs ubuntu or no
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829 [08:00:47] <Stiffler> debian = father of ubuntu
830 [08:00:52] <nerftrailparkher> lol
831 [08:00:53] <Toordog> is there really a vs?
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833 [08:01:00] <Stiffler> ubuntu = unwanted son of debian
834 [08:01:04] <nerftrailparkher> is it hype
835 [08:01:13] <Stiffler> and worst kind with lots of desieases
836 [08:01:15] <Toordog> it's like saying banana vs banana
837 [08:01:17] <nerftrailparkher> what distro do you run
838 [08:01:21] <Stiffler> no no
839 [08:01:33] <nerftrailparkher> or is it GET ME BACK TO
WINDOWS!!
840 [08:01:33] <Stiffler> its like saying normal man to a
retarded counterpart
841 [08:01:39] <awal1> nerftrailparkher, this channel is for
provide support for debian users. off topic stuff ---»
#debian-offtopic
842 [08:01:51] <Stiffler> i run simply debian/mint/cent/
843 [08:02:00] <nerftrailparkher> ok
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845 [08:02:19] <Stiffler> hate fedora
846 [08:02:21] <nerftrailparkher> i have something up like antiX
847 [08:02:22] <Toordog> nerftrailparkher I run Windows, but I
administer any Unix/Linux
848 [08:02:24] <Stiffler> love cent :)
849 [08:02:33] <nerftrailparkher> cool
850 [08:02:42] <nerftrailparkher> Gotta to get a hard drive to
get onto windows again
851 [08:02:43] <Stiffler> i run windowsly simply i can run any
game lol
852 [08:02:44] <nerftrailparkher> hopefully
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854 [08:02:58] <nerftrailparkher> yea thats what i thought too
855 [08:03:23] <Toordog> come a moment where you need to work in
corporate place that are winbase and use their tools to do your
report and management works.
856 [08:03:24] <Stiffler> if u dont want to run game stick with
linux and distro u like
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858 [08:03:47] <nerftrailparkher> ok
859 [08:03:57] <Stiffler> yes thats true u can port them to linux
box either use vm to rum them
860 [08:04:01] <Stiffler> i do that
861 [08:04:13] <nerftrailparkher> I'm running a public beata
demo
862 [08:04:16] <nerftrailparkher> beta
863 [08:04:20] <nerftrailparkher> w/e thats for
864 [08:05:00] <Stiffler> but as far as i know most corporate
tools are avaiable in linux mostly in rpm formats or uu can make
them urself
865 [08:05:02] <nerftrailparkher> debian witAntiX debian with
xfce
866 [08:05:24] <nerftrailparkher> wine can still do good
867 [08:05:28] <nerftrailparkher> buggy here and there
868 [08:05:41] <Stiffler> wine can be good to some extent to
small software not heavy ones
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870 [08:05:48] <nerftrailparkher> support for USB drives is tough
though, gotta do research
871 [08:05:50] <Stiffler> i would rather run it on vm than wine
872 [08:05:56] <nerftrailparkher> read up and its gives me
headache
873 [08:06:05] <nerftrailparkher> vmware?
874 [08:06:09] <Stiffler> mhm
875 [08:06:12] <Stiffler> or vbox
876 [08:06:17] <Stiffler> or kvm
877 [08:06:27] <nerftrailparkher> do you use liveusb
878 [08:06:32] <Stiffler> ya
879 [08:06:51] <Stiffler> liveusb as destros?
880 [08:07:02] <nerftrailparkher> yea
881 [08:07:13] <nerftrailparkher> do they report bugs
automatically
882 [08:07:14] <Stiffler> yep
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884 [08:07:32] <nerftrailparkher> thinking of joiniing a forum
sometime, maybe
885 [08:07:33] <Stiffler> report bugs for wat?
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887 [08:07:48] <nerftrailparkher> public beta is good but dont
know if it good to test it out somewher
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889 [08:07:57] <nerftrailparkher> like with some software like,
on screen keyboards
890 [08:08:03] <Stiffler> ah
891 [08:08:06] <nerftrailparkher> ONSCREEN is good still
892 [08:08:09] <Stiffler> yes they does
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894 [08:08:32] <nerftrailparkher> i like mint linux alot
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896 [08:08:38] <nerftrailparkher> its large file to load
897 [08:09:00] <nerftrailparkher> call me copycat
898 [08:09:26] <Stiffler> i used to use mint
899 [08:09:36] <Stiffler> few most ago
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901 [08:09:49] <Stiffler> left it i am happy with debian
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904 [08:09:56] <Stiffler> months*
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906 [08:10:21] <Stiffler> but never ever everrrrr use
RETADED-UBNTU
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910 [08:11:13] <Stiffler> ubuntu = try hard MACs + WINDOWS
911 [08:11:45] <nerftrailparkher> yea
912 [08:11:58] <nerftrailparkher> its come standard on some
things though
913 [08:12:09] <nerftrailparkher> like some USB sticks and
schools computers
914 [08:12:11] <nerftrailparkher> what do you think
915 [08:12:40] <Stiffler> still bad horriable
916 [08:12:53] <Stiffler> every linux destro can be installed in
live usb
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918 [08:13:06] <nerftrailparkher> was liveusb recent
919 [08:13:10] <Stiffler> still if u want ubuntu then use mint
its far better
920 [08:13:43] <Stiffler> not much
921 [08:14:28] <nerftrailparkher> yea
922 [08:14:38] <nerftrailparkher> im going back to it any day
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924 [08:14:55] <nerftrailparkher> someone sayd debian is right
though,
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927 [08:15:13] <Stiffler> wish we had very driver compability in
games i would stick to linux
928 [08:15:14] <ZeroBeholder> (package management in mint is
jacked-- eughhh some of the things they do downstream)
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930 [08:15:40] <Stiffler> if u tell packet management in mint is
jacked then wat about ubuntu?
931 [08:15:46] <nerftrailparkher> I tried one game and it crashed
with some .exe files
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933 [08:16:05] <nerftrailparkher> unless it was corrupt
934 [08:16:05] <Stiffler> their are no packages in mint they
borrow it directly from ubuntu and deb repos
935 [08:16:11] <ZeroBeholder> It is the one thing Ubuntu does
better than mint besides attract new users.
936 [08:16:19] <nerftrailparkher> heh
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938 [08:17:11] <Stiffler> here how it goes Ubuntu attracts NEW
ppls --> later they leave for Mint or other distro -- >
Finally they settled with Debian
939 [08:17:18] <ZeroBeholder> Mint doesn't use Ubuntu &
Debian repos in stock form. There are a number of packages that are
mangled.
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941 [08:17:58] <Stiffler> some core packages and binding into
meta packages are mangled but most libs are from stock
942 [08:18:00] <ZeroBeholder> Or, like me, my laptop is kubuntu
and most of my servers are debian...
943 [08:18:13] <Stiffler> heh
944 [08:18:35] <Stiffler> my lappy is debian PC is windows for
games
945 [08:19:12] <ZeroBeholder> I have too many kids to even think
I have time for video games.
946 [08:19:16] <Stiffler> and i use linux in windows production
enviroment .. with some troubles but not much
947 [08:19:33] <ZeroBeholder> Maybe some day when they all wipe
their own butts...
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949 [08:20:33] <Stiffler> if u want automated kids put them in
front of WIN machine.. if u want to customise ur KIDS make them sit
near linux box ;p
950 [08:22:27] <ZeroBeholder> Nope, they are running xubuntu on
my old stuff. Oldest two use it for Rhapsody/Napster music. Oldest
does his kindergarten standardized testing prep school assignments
online.
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952 [08:23:06] <missmbob> !ot
953 [08:23:06] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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1021 [09:13:07] <megatog> is http.us.debian.org a bit slow for
anyone else?
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1024 [09:15:59] <jim> that's awfully hard to quantify since
(at least) it depends on so many factors
1025 [09:16:01] <WizardGed> megatog: not according to tracert I
would imagine if there is degradation it's on the mirror
you're being redirected to.
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1028 [09:17:09] <jim> how do you measure "a bit slow"?
how do you expect listeners to?
1029 [09:17:32] <missmbob> pick a direct mirror that you know is
always fast. for US try debian.osuosl.org
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1117 [10:06:07] <frobnicator> hi #debian
1118 [10:06:19] <frobnicator> I see there is a package not in
stretch anymore. On which page can I find such event
1119 [10:06:21] <frobnicator> s*
1120 [10:06:43] <frobnicator> is there a changelog or list that
shows such changes to be found somewhere
1121 [10:07:45] <nkuttler> !why is whatever not in testing
1122 [10:07:45] <dpkg> whatever is not in testing for the reasons
listed in
replaced-url
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1126 [10:08:45] <frobnicator> nkuttler: it's not an issue, I
just want to know why. It is in jessie, wheezy and sid
1127 [10:09:00] <frobnicator> but I think I found it after a lot
of clicks. It has to do with a qt version change
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1174 [10:34:13] <Minnebo> Hi guys!
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1176 [10:34:18] <Minnebo> I installed pi hole on a debian
1177 [10:34:30] <Minnebo> but now I don't know how to use the
pi hole command
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1187 [10:38:14] <Minnebo> nevermind
1188 [10:38:14] <Minnebo> i'm retard
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1194 [10:45:06] <exaways> While trying to install debian on my
macbook I got the message that partitions were written but unable to
inform kernel about the changes.
1195 [10:45:06] <exaways> Can someone point me in the right
direction here?
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1197 [10:48:25] <dutchfish> exaways, since i have no way of
testing it, i don know if that will work. But i hope it gets you
into the right direction:
replaced-url
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1205 [10:51:13] <dutchfish> exaways1,
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1207 [10:51:58] <dutchfish> exaways, read the chapters before that
point also, about how to create partitions and use them for the
debian install.
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1233 [11:00:53] <exaways1> dutchfish, thank you. most of the steps
I did follow.
1234 [11:01:29] <exaways1> Here is some more information on what I
did:
1235 [11:01:40] <exaways1>
replaced-url
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1247 [11:05:38] <dutchfish> exaways1, i believe the correct way,
is to partionate that drive (at least a / and swap partition) and
use those in the installer. This might also be an installer bug.
Partioning and writing out the changes is fdisk related which is
believe is inside a udeb on the installer. There is a separate
channel to ask for this.
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1249 [11:06:17] <squigz> (running Sid) so I broke my X config, and
I'm not entirely sure how
1250 [11:06:28] <squigz> I was installing the fglrx from
AMD's site
1251 [11:06:31] <dutchfish> exaways1, ie #debian-boot
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1254 [11:07:22] <dutchfish> exaways1, your steps seams right to
me, apropos.
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1256 [11:08:18] <dutchfish> exaways1, make sure that the correct
driver for the bus is present for the external drive.
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1258 [11:08:29] <exaways1> dutchfish, the installer created the
partitions including swap but mentioned this error giving my the
option to ignore or cancel
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1260 [11:09:09] <dutchfish> exaways1, you could try ignore, if the
changes were written
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1262 [11:09:40] <squigz> Okay yeah I've really broken x here.
How could I reinstall X along with its config files?
1263 [11:09:40] <exaways1> dutchfish, I did it resulted in the
installer to try the whole process again )
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1266 [11:10:29] <dutchfish> exaways1, i suggest you ask in
#debian-boot, those guys know the insides of the installer.
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1268 [11:10:47] <dutchfish> exaways1, it might take some time ....
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1271 [11:12:49] <exaways1> dutchfish, ok thank you. I might ask
there later if I can stay long to wait for answer. right now I wanna
try things and reboot all the time. )
1272 [11:13:04] <dutchfish> exaways1, np, gl
1273 [11:13:19] <exaways1> thx bye
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1284 [11:16:34] <dutchfish> squigz, well, on my sid boxes, i
backup each and every time, before a major update cycle. if not, a
backup now and a reinstall with a created packagelist is the easiest
thing, but only if the sid repositories are in a better shape then
it is now. Reinstalling Xorg is a bit of a messy thing:
replaced-url
1285 [11:16:57] <squigz> Yup, probably gunna have to go with a
reinstall lol
1286 [11:17:03] <squigz> I'm in a tty, can't even open
that link
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1290 [11:18:20] <squigz> Could someoen provide me with a direct
link to the sid netinstall image? :P
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1307 [11:31:13] <squigz> I actually have a Jessie image, I'll
just switch back to that
1308 [11:31:17] <squigz> maybe I'll break things less often
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1323 [11:46:35] <exaways> dutchfish, it worked now. probably the
only thing to do was to reboot and start the installer again.
1324 [11:46:50] <exaways> However another problem came up.
1325 [11:47:21] <exaways> Grub could not be installed. I am not
entirely unhappy about it for now...
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1327 [11:48:02] <exaways> So a general question. Is it possible to
use mac os/debian dualboot completely without grub only with refind?
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1329 [11:48:11] <n4dir> there ain't such a thing as a
sid-netinst iso
1330 [11:48:44] <n4dir> and sure enough you can open links in tty
too (not very comfortable, i agree. gpm or such might help).
1331 [11:49:00] <geetansh> hey i am new to kali linux please
suggest some wifi adapters
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1371 [12:06:54] <mender27> Howdy everyone ;). I have some minor
problems with SSH to my home storage, anyone care to help?
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1503 [13:10:46] <rocksteady> Hi all. I've trouble with piping
paths to GNU parallel containing special chars
1504 [13:11:43] <rocksteady> is there something to consider?
1505 [13:12:05] <rocksteady> output from 'find' itself
is correct
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1508 [13:12:40] <rocksteady> when executing "find . -maxdepth
1 -type d | parallel --dry-run test {}" the special chars are
broken
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1510 [13:14:37] <babilen> rocksteady: encodings are hard ;)
1511 [13:14:42] <n4dir> shit knows if that will help you (i
usually rename such files and directories):
replaced-url
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1513 [13:15:10] <rocksteady> sadly renaming is not an option. its
required to stay the same
1514 [13:15:28] <rocksteady> when using bash for loops oder
"find -exec" everything works like a charm
1515 [13:15:30] <babilen> And using a non unicode locale is, well,
also not really an option
1516 [13:15:33] <rocksteady> now i need parallelism :)
1517 [13:15:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> parallel doesn't have an
option --dry-run
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1519 [13:15:48] <rocksteady> it does have this option
1520 [13:15:59] <rocksteady> then parallel prints to stdout
instead of executing
1521 [13:16:07] <CutMeOwnThroat> not the one that is in debian?
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1523 [13:16:25] <rocksteady> -dry-run Print the job to run on
stdout (standard output)...
replaced-url
1524 [13:16:46] <rocksteady> i installed the package from sid in
hopoing this will solve the error
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1526 [13:16:48] <rocksteady> but nothing changed
1527 [13:17:02] <CutMeOwnThroat> that's not the parallel
manpage from jessie
1528 [13:17:04] <CutMeOwnThroat> ah
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1531 [13:17:47] <rocksteady> is there a reliable alternative to
parallel or another option?
1532 [13:17:53] <CutMeOwnThroat> if this is supposed to be stable
(i.e.) jessie… you're not supposed to mix packages from
other distributions into stable
1533 [13:18:07] <rocksteady> basically I need to run x instances
of tar in parallel, creating separate archives of many folders
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1535 [13:18:36] <rocksteady> trying out the sid package was my
last approach to solve this by myself
1536 [13:18:39] <CutMeOwnThroat> I don't see why your problem
should happen at all
1537 [13:18:40] <rocksteady> now i'm lost :)
1538 [13:18:55] <rocksteady> I don't unterstand this either
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1540 [13:19:10] <rocksteady> this works perfectly: find .
-maxdepth 1 -type d
1541 [13:19:20] <rocksteady> this doesn't: find . -maxdepth 1
-type d | parallel -q --dry-run test {}
1542 [13:19:32] <CutMeOwnThroat> what version of debian is this
1543 [13:19:46] <rocksteady> latest jessie with only parallel
coming from sid
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1545 [13:19:53] <rocksteady> but the jessie package behaves the
same
1546 [13:20:00] <CutMeOwnThroat> well, can you give me a line that
works with jessie parallel
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1548 [13:20:18] <babilen> CutMeOwnThroat: The problem is that
parallel seems to garble up the encofind
1549 [13:20:21] <CutMeOwnThroat> oh, I see where I read the line
wrong
1550 [13:20:25] <babilen> *encoding
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1552 [13:20:41] <babilen> And rocksteady tried the version in
jessie already .. it behaves identical
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1554 [13:20:50] <babilen> That's why I said "encodings
are hard"
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1557 [13:21:21] <rocksteady> I cannot prohibit the use of special
chars
1558 [13:21:28] <CutMeOwnThroat> babilen, well, the first problem
is, that the -exec and the "+" at the end are missing and
I just couldn't see what this is doing
1559 [13:21:30] <rocksteady> it's part of their workflow :(
1560 [13:21:50] <CutMeOwnThroat> and the | is wrong
1561 [13:22:00] <babilen> There is another "parallel" in
the "moreutils" package (which is the one CutMeOwnThroat
referred to)
1562 [13:22:16] <babilen> (and is generally speaking less useful
1563 [13:22:17] <babilen> )
1564 [13:22:46] <CutMeOwnThroat> ah, it's a different one
1565 [13:22:57] <babilen> But that one seems to cope with umlauts
1566 [13:23:58] <babilen> rocksteady: fwiw, both seem to pass the
argument correctly to whatever they are calling
1567 [13:24:01] <CutMeOwnThroat> the one he was talking about
händles "München" fïne
1568 [13:24:16] <babilen> rocksteady: Apart from the dry-run --
what's the *actual* problem you are trying to fix?
1569 [13:24:27] <rocksteady> if I use "echo" instead of
the "--dry-run" parameter, the problem only occurs when
escaping the path (because of potential while spaces)
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1571 [13:24:44] <rocksteady> find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel
echo {} <-- everything is fine
1572 [13:24:54] <babilen> Yeah, that's what I referred to
1573 [13:25:02] <rocksteady> find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel
echo '"{}"' <--- crazy special chars inside
the quoting
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1575 [13:25:26] <babilen> You surely don't want to run
"echo" thouch
1576 [13:25:29] <babilen> *though
1577 [13:25:37] <rocksteady> babilien: basically I need to run x
tar xJf in parallel on many folders containing special chars and
whitespaces
1578 [13:25:50] <babilen> Why don't you use a parallel packer
then?
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1581 [13:25:54] <rocksteady> so I'm trying to pipe the
"find" output to parallel and use quoting to deal with
whitespaces
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1583 [13:26:02] <rocksteady> but if I do so, the special chars are
broken
1584 [13:26:06] <CutMeOwnThroat> oh well
1585 [13:26:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> you can also just use a loop
1586 [13:26:21] <rocksteady> because I need separate archives,
each for every folder
1587 [13:26:25] <rocksteady> not one huge archive
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1592 [13:26:46] <rocksteady> Currently I'm using a simple
bash loop but it takes ages, one folder at a time
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1594 [13:27:22] <rocksteady> sorry, I meant cJf, not xJf
1595 [13:27:38] <babilen> rocksteady: Why don't you use
something like "tar -c --use-compress-program=pigz ... " ?
1596 [13:27:59] <rocksteady> thats what I tried before, but then
its the same
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1598 [13:28:09] <babilen> (or pixz/pbzip2/...)
1599 [13:28:10] <rocksteady> one huge archive containing all my
target folders
1600 [13:28:25] <rocksteady> For flexibility, I want to create
separate small archives in parallel
1601 [13:28:36] <babilen> Okay, and that errors?
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1603 [13:28:50] <babilen> I simply wanted to help you solve the
*actual* problem
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1605 [13:29:08] <rocksteady> As described above, parallel
'destroys' my special chars when I put the path names in
quotes
1606 [13:29:20] <babilen> The "--dry-run" is a symptom
and might be due to the same underlying problem, but it is not the
actual problem
1607 [13:29:28] <rocksteady> If I don't quote the paths, the
umlauts are okay but then the whitespaces are not escaped
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1609 [13:29:32] <babilen> And then tar can't find them
anymore?
1610 [13:29:39] <rocksteady> correct
1611 [13:29:46] <CutMeOwnThroat> like for file in * ; do if [ -d
"$file" ] ; then tar -cf "$file.tgz"
"$file/"; fi; done
1612 [13:29:51] <babilen> And parallel from moreutils behave
identical?
1613 [13:30:07] <rocksteady> CutMeOwnThroat: thats what my current
approach looks like
1614 [13:30:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> that's serial… would
need to replace one ; with a &
1615 [13:30:12] <rocksteady> it's working, but it's slow
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1617 [13:30:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> but that does *all* of them in
parallel… which is probably not ideal
1618 [13:30:33] <rocksteady> but when I use & to background,
I'll end up with thousands of parallel tar running
1619 [13:30:38] <rocksteady> thats not what I want
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1623 [13:31:03] <n4dir> why you wanna put it to the background?
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1625 [13:31:25] <n4dir> remote host?
1626 [13:31:32] <rocksteady> I don't want to, but
CutMeOwnThroat just suggested that
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1628 [13:31:44] <rocksteady> I've stumbled upon that solution
too, but it won't fit my needs
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1631 [13:32:25] <CutMeOwnThroat> well, and I still don't see
what your problem with parallel is
1632 [13:32:31] <CutMeOwnThroat> find . -maxdepth 1 -type d |
parallel -q echo '{}' is also fine
1633 [13:32:44] <rocksteady> Maybe I've explained it poorly,
let me try again
1634 [13:32:50] <CutMeOwnThroat> yours with the double-quoting is
nonsense, because it tries to open a filename containing the
""
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1639 [13:33:19] <rocksteady> Okay, but lets assume I have a folder
with the name "b c"
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1641 [13:33:30] <rocksteady> find will output ./b c
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1643 [13:33:39] <rocksteady> when parallel echoes that, its again
./b c
1644 [13:33:46] <CutMeOwnThroat>
replaced-url
1645 [13:33:55] <rocksteady> but would tar search for the folder
./b instead of "./b c"?
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1647 [13:34:18] <CutMeOwnThroat>
replaced-url
1648 [13:34:21] <CutMeOwnThroat> where is the problem
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1651 [13:34:46] <babilen> CutMeOwnThroat: Is the gnu or moreutils?
1652 [13:34:54] <CutMeOwnThroat> gnu one, I installed it
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1654 [13:35:05] <rocksteady> CutMeOwnThroat: It seems to work, but
why? :)
1655 [13:35:14] <babilen> rocksteady: Could you *please* show an
actual example?
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1657 [13:35:27] <rocksteady> as I understand, tar will get
something like: tar cJf blah.tar.xz ./b c
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1660 [13:36:08] <CutMeOwnThroat> yes, please show an actual
example with the output of failing of what doesn't work in a
pastebin, as would have been best to do 15 minutes ago
1661 [13:36:14] <petemc> xargs can do parallel stuff too
1662 [13:36:15] <babilen> God, GNU parallel is obnoxious with its
bibtext notice
1663 [13:36:36] <CutMeOwnThroat> babilen, what?
1664 [13:36:42] <babilen> petemc: We are still at the "What
is the problem" stage
1665 [13:36:51] <petemc> i see
1666 [13:37:14] <rocksteady> CutMeOwnThroat: Obviously I was wrong
with my assumption that I have to quote the path when running tar on
paths with spaces in them
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1668 [13:37:38] <babilen> CutMeOwnThroat:
replaced-url
1669 [13:37:57] <babilen> rocksteady: So, what is the problem?
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1672 [13:38:34] <rocksteady> Just for my understanding: When I run
this: find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel tar cJf
'{/}.tar.xz' '{}'
1673 [13:38:47] <CutMeOwnThroat> rocksteady, you are always
quoting things for the shell, never for the programs… you
should read a bit on shell expansion (e.g. man bash)
1674 [13:39:07] * babilen gives up
1675 [13:39:08] <rocksteady> Will the resulting command look like
this? tar cJf 'b c.tar.xz' './b c'
1676 [13:39:16] <rocksteady> or like this: Will the resulting
command look like this? tar cJf b c.tar.xz ./b c
1677 [13:39:39] <CutMeOwnThroat> why don't you try it with
echo… and it's neither of those
1678 [13:39:43] <rocksteady> Okay, so this was a general mistake
of mine
1679 [13:39:52] <rocksteady> echo does not output " and
'
1680 [13:40:01] <rocksteady> so I tried printf and in the end
dry-run
1681 [13:40:04] <babilen> It doesn't construct
"commands" that are then run with the shell
1682 [13:40:11] <rocksteady> I'll just take it as it is and
use single ' for escaping
1683 [13:40:23] <babilen> rocksteady: So you have never tried your
command?
1684 [13:40:38] <CutMeOwnThroat> because {/} doesn't expand
to anything?
1685 [13:40:41] <rocksteady> Sure, I've tried many different
approaches
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1687 [13:40:53] <rocksteady> really weird ones as
'\"{}\"'
1688 [13:41:05] <rocksteady> it got so complicated in the end I
thought of asking here
1689 [13:41:06] <babilen> So .. I'm sure that one of those
approaches yielded some output and an error, surely?
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1691 [13:41:24] <babilen> (preferrably the first approach)
1692 [13:41:27] <rocksteady> Yes, tar said it cannot find the
source folder as it contained spaces
1693 [13:41:28] <CutMeOwnThroat> babilen, I don't get that
message on jessie
1694 [13:41:33] <themill> .o0(find should be used with -print0;
parallel has -0)
1695 [13:41:36] <babilen> CutMeOwnThroat: Must be a new
"feature"
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1698 [13:42:14] <CutMeOwnThroat> babilen, echo 1 2 3 | parallels
xscreensaver
1699 [13:42:15] <babilen> rocksteady: So .. is it so hard to show
that?
1700 [13:42:58] <rocksteady> babilen: It seems to behave
completely different with echo, printf --dry-run and the actual tar
1701 [13:43:08] <rocksteady> So I expected a problem where there
isn't any
1702 [13:44:18] <babilen> Well, note the two options themill just
mentioned, but it would still be wonderful if you could paste an
actual example
1703 [13:44:46] <themill> rocksteady: pastebin or it didn't
happen...
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1705 [13:45:31] <rocksteady> Atm I'm unable to reproduce the
error of yesterafternoon
1706 [13:45:43] <CutMeOwnThroat> well, I think we're through,
anyway
1707 [13:45:59] <rocksteady> Yes, thank you all
1708 [13:46:11] <rocksteady> I'll try to continue with
parallel
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1711 [13:46:45] <Dreaman> Firmware repo debian
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1716 [13:47:46] <Dreaman> !Firmware
1717 [13:47:46] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic
devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux
kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace,
notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part
of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some
are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask
me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>.
replaced-url
1718 [13:48:34] <babilen> Dreaman: Are you looking for something
specific?
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1721 [13:48:51] <Dreaman> my wifi old hp laptop
1722 [13:49:16] <Dreaman> but is installing 20 min i see
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1745 [14:01:28] <rocksteady> Just FYI: this one works perfectly
with whitespaces and preserving special chars:
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1747 [14:01:35] <happy_hacker> thanks Dreaman, was wondering about
getting firmware for my Intel 7260
1748 [14:01:38] <rocksteady> target="/path/to/target";
find /path/to/source -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel -j 5
tar -cJf "$target/{/}.tar.xz" -C '{//}'
'{/}'
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1750 [14:01:41] <rocksteady> Thank you all again
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1753 [14:03:19] <dvs> !tell happy_hacker about firmware-iwlwifi
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1755 [14:03:59] <dvs> ,v firmware-iwlwifi
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1757 [14:04:00] <CutMeOwnThroat> \o/
1758 [14:04:00] <judd> Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free:
0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free:
20160824-1~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20160824-1; stretch/non-free:
20160824-1
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1761 [14:06:41] <happy_hacker> ,v firmware-ibt-hw
1762 [14:06:42] <judd> No package named
'firmware-ibt-hw' was found in amd64.
1763 [14:07:02] <happy_hacker> ,v firmware-intel/ibt-hw
1764 [14:07:04] <judd> No package named
'firmware-intel/ibt-hw' was found in amd64.
1765 [14:07:37] <happy_hacker> looking for: Nov 11 22:08:46
localhost kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Intel Bluetooth firmware file:
intel/ibt-hw-37.7.10-fw-1.80.2.3.d.bseq
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1767 [14:07:53] <abrotman> happy_hacker: did you install the
firmware-iwlwifi package yet?
1768 [14:08:07] <TomTomTosch> happy_hacker: that's part of
iwlwifi.
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1770 [14:08:42] <happy_hacker> abrotman, TomTomTosch thanks ...
editing vim.tiny /etc/apt/sources.list atm
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1804 [14:20:24] <happy_hacker> haven't used Debian since 2003
(for 3 months) -- trying to find info
replaced-url
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1806 [14:20:44] <happy_hacker> running sid
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1815 [14:25:48] <hexnewbie> happy_hacker: Not related to your
firmware issues, but starting off with sid is not generally a good
idea, there's a reason it's called ‘unstable’
and ‘Sid’. It will break. Testing would be preferable,
and stable (with or without some backported packages if you need
them) would save you even more trouble in the future.
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1818 [14:27:27] <happy_hacker> hexnewbie: thanks, I presently work
on another Linux distro
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1822 [14:27:46] <happy_hacker> just need to learn The Debian Way
:D
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1825 [14:29:34] <happy_hacker> actually running a
debian-sources-4.8.7 kernel on the other SSD in this laptop
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1837 [14:32:56] <frlttrwrd> I just replaced a broken mainboard.
now my new onboard ethernet device is called eth1 instead of eth0.
can I get it to be eth0?
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1841 [14:34:43] <abrotman> frlttrwrd:
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
1842 [14:34:51] <abrotman> either edit it, or delete it
1843 [14:34:56] <frlttrwrd> thank you
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1873 [14:49:01] <happy_hacker> abrotman, TomTomTosch: thanks again
... wifi and bt working now
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1971 [15:36:29] <excognac> hi is there a way to install debian
without installing grub? I'm currently using an archbased
distro, debian would just troll its grub.
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1973 [15:37:23] <abrotman> you can skip that step in the installer
1974 [15:37:25] <petn-randall> excognac: Sure, you can decide not
to install grub, then you just have to configure it correctly on
your other OS.
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1979 [15:40:19] <excognac> abrotman: petn-randall: thanks, forgot
there's such step in the debian installer. I'll google the
rest for my blooody AMD radeon card and realtek wifi.
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1982 [15:41:27] <Posterdati> hi
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1989 [15:43:45] <Posterdati> I'm running jessie i386 on an
old athlon 1200MHz, I installed a nvidia geforce 6200 (NV44A) with
nouveau, at boot it tries to launch kdm, but X returns an error:
Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file, if I restart
kdm from console X works
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1991 [15:43:53] <Posterdati> thanks
1992 [15:43:57] <gribouille> hi
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1994 [15:44:24] <gribouille> I can't access web sites suche
as amazon.com with chrome 53. what does it mean?
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1999 [15:48:04] <petn-randall> excognac: The wifi should work out
of the box as long as you install the firmware afterwards. If you
need it during installation, pick the firmware installer.
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2002 [15:48:54] <petn-randall> excognac: Older radeons should work
fine with the libre drivers. It's just the bumblebee thing and
brand new cards that I've heard have some trouble.
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2016 [15:54:36] <excognac> petn-randall: well this a laptop and
has amd radeon gpu and i5 cpu. was a bad idea to buy:9
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2030 [16:00:57] <petn-randall> excognac: It's doable, people
got it working before, but it involves some manual step to configure
which don't have with other machines.
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2035 [16:02:53] <Texou> hi
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2040 [16:03:33] <Texou> how do you think I could fix such error
while setting bluez package by apt: "bluetoothd[4555]: D-Bus
setup failed: Failed to connect to socket
/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission denied" ? I'm
on testing just now
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2052 [16:08:47] <petn-randall> !debian-next
2053 [16:08:47] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2054 [16:09:07] <petn-randall> Texou: See above for testing
support ^^^
2055 [16:09:08] <excognac> petn-randall: that's no trouble,
I'll google them. unsure if this applies to me thoughreplaced-url
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2064 [16:10:23] <petn-randall> excognac: Yes, I think that still
applies.
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2110 [16:27:24] <baraba> does anyone know what gbrowse_slave
process is?
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2128 [16:40:52] <redrabbit> hi i have an issue connecting to wifi
on a fresh cli only install
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2131 [16:41:09] <redrabbit> iwconfig is all ok, its connected and
auther
2132 [16:41:24] <redrabbit> but ifconfig doesnt show ip and route
is empty
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2146 [16:46:22] <t-p> Hi! I've Jessie on my HP laptop. If I
suspend the notebook (closing the lid or using systemctl) when I
wake up (pressing a key or opening the lid) on the screen I see the
screen freezed on the last pre-suspend view (I can see the clock
stuck at the time I suspended). Even ctrl alt interr + B does not
work. The last message on syslog is "systemd-sleep[14617]:
Suspending system...". Any ideas?
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2175 [16:59:14] <redrabbit> i've been looking everywhere
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2177 [16:59:33] <redrabbit> what is strange is the same config
works fine on raspbian
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2184 [17:02:11] <redrabbit> tried another wlan adapter same
problem
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2186 [17:02:27] <redrabbit> also bitrate in iwconfig is stuck to
1M
2187 [17:02:34] <redrabbit> but auth passed successfully
2188 [17:02:49] <redrabbit> link quality is 70/70
2189 [17:03:05] <redrabbit> is this because of drivers ?
2190 [17:03:31] <redrabbit> my awus036nha ain't recognised,
most distro pick it
2191 [17:03:38] <redrabbit> my awus036h works though
2192 [17:04:08] <redrabbit> ...looks like a driver issue to me.
any help would be appreciated
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2194 [17:04:43] <redrabbit> same cards works fine on raspbian-cli
only
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2200 [17:06:04] <redrabbit> it also worked for the netinstall..
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2210 [17:10:15] <redrabbit> ok same problem on other wifi network.
gets suck at 1Mbps, auth ok but no route / no ip / no connectivity
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2212 [17:11:44] <Cueball> Where can I download an iso that will
automatically boot on a headless machine and start ssh so I can do a
netinstall? I know I can create one but would be nice if there is an
already made one I can use as got no way currently of creating one.
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2217 [17:16:09] <happy_hacker> what do you mean by
"automatically boot on a headless machine"? will that
machine boot from USB/CD w/out interaction?
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2230 [17:20:12] <n4dir> You probably could boot any Linux live CD
which has ssh enabled and install Debian via debootstrap and chroot.
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2232 [17:20:48] <missmbob> headless being the keyword. you have to
make your own with a preseed file that'll configure the
network/password/etc for you
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2234 [17:22:00] <n4dir> i could swear there is docu about
installing to headless. Something like this:
2235 [17:22:11] <n4dir>
replaced-url
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2243 [17:26:11] <redrabbit> how do i add non-free wifi drivers to
debian
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2245 [17:26:18] <redrabbit> i think that is the issue here
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2249 [17:27:18] <mtn> redrabbit: is non-free enabled in your
sources?
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2260 [17:34:04] <RikuKawai> redrabbit: did you run dhclient
[adapter name]?
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2264 [17:35:15] <RikuKawai> are you running a desktop environment?
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2285 [17:42:19] <Cueball> happy_hacker: Yes it will.
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2288 [17:42:56] <timegirls> scale. We know Jews were in white
countries prior to other non-whites, so Jews brought the non-whites
in to harm and damage the only race capable of stopping them
(whites). In my view, the slave trade was the start of spreading
around the blacks.
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2302 [17:48:05] <JyZyXEL> how can i check to which package a
certain configuration file belongs to?
2303 [17:48:32] <missmbob> dpkg -S file (if it's installed)
2304 [17:48:32] <dpkg> Package: file (if it's installed):
Status: install ok installed
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2307 [17:48:53] <missmbob> apt-file search if not. make sure you
apt-file update first
2308 [17:49:27] <JyZyXEL> dpkg -S was the one i was looking for,
thank you
2309 [17:49:28] <dpkg> You Fool! was the one i was looking for,
thank you is installed!
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2313 [17:50:56] <john_s> how do you cancel the installation of
packages once you have said yes?
2314 [17:51:31] <abrotman> has it started unpacking?
2315 [17:51:33] <missmbob> you should probably let it finish. then
apt-get remove. if you quit in the middle you'll get broken
packages that dpkg might struggle with
2316 [17:51:36] <abrotman> or still downloading?
2317 [17:51:42] <RikuKawai> I'm not sure if there's an
elegant way to do it
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2319 [17:52:43] <n4dir> i'd also rather let it finish and
then remove again. Not saying it isn't possible, i don't
know ( abrotman s question seems to indicate it is), only what i
would do.
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2322 [17:53:03] <missmbob> if it's still downloading ctrl+c
wont hurt anything
2323 [17:53:40] <redrabbit> RikuKawai: no its gui only
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2325 [17:53:53] <redrabbit> i did a netinstall and only selected
ssh and general utilities
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2329 [17:54:45] <john_s> it often just takes too long on my system
2330 [17:54:49] <redrabbit> 17:34 < RikuKawai> redrabbit:
did you run dhclient [adapter name]?
2331 [17:54:55] <redrabbit> seems to have fixed the issue
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2334 [17:54:58] <redrabbit> much thanks
2335 [17:55:23] <redrabbit> i had no idea i needed this but i knew
dhcp wasn't working
2336 [17:55:24] <john_s> but usually if I kill it and then dpkg
--configure -a and apt-get install -f it will just try to continue
with everything.
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2338 [17:55:36] <redrabbit> it works good on other distribs
without this
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2340 [17:56:12] <n4dir> john_s: i am wondering what "too
long" might mean.
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2342 [17:56:29] <john_s> something might take 20 minutes on this
system.
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2344 [17:56:49] <redrabbit> but my awus036nha still isn't
recognized/ i get "firmware: failed to load htc_9271.fw
2345 [17:56:49] <n4dir> now i am wondering what
"something" might mean. And 20 minutes doesn't sound
that long
2346 [17:56:59] <john_s> 20 minutes waiting for something to
uninstall?
2347 [17:57:03] <john_s> that's very long.
2348 [17:57:05] <redrabbit> on usb plug
2349 [17:57:19] <n4dir> well: if you don't want that, then
read and consider better before you hit "yes"
2350 [17:57:24] <missmbob> redrabbit: install firmware-atheros for
that
2351 [17:57:27] <john_s> i was asking for the way about that my
friend.
2352 [17:57:32] <redrabbit> thanks missmbob
2353 [17:57:44] <john_s> you know I wasn't asking for the
travelled road.
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2359 [17:58:55] <redrabbit> mhh its not available on default repos
2360 [17:59:04] <missmbob> redrabbit: you have to add non-free to
your sources.list
2361 [17:59:07] <redrabbit> guess i have to add nonfree
2362 [17:59:08] <redrabbit> :p
2363 [17:59:10] <redrabbit> :D
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2367 [18:00:05] <redrabbit> i'm all in for the non-non-free
default policy though
2368 [18:00:13] <redrabbit> but sometimes its a pita :p
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2371 [18:00:39] <missmbob> sudo add-apt-repository non-free
isn't that much of a pita
2372 [18:00:48] <n4dir> repairing a broken package-management can
take way longer than 20 minutes, john_s. But that is really your
choice. I only said what i do, and besides you had other answers
too.
2373 [18:00:59] <redrabbit> nop its fine
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2375 [18:01:17] <redrabbit> i did nano /etc/apt/source.list and
added non-fre
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2377 [18:01:26] <redrabbit> but, same results
2378 [18:01:32] <john_s> yes yes but I ask if there is any normal
way to do it, not what you or anyone would do.
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2380 [18:01:57] <john_s> last time I removed wine-development but
then it started installing wine because of a dependency
2381 [18:02:13] <john_s> I hadn't seen "is going to use
500MB extra" I thought it said "is going to use 500MB
less" ;-).
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2385 [18:02:21] <missmbob> redrabbit: you should probably also try
nmtui for your network config
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2388 [18:03:08] <john_s> so I wanted to break that off but dpkg
and apt kept trying to install wine and I couldn't offer a new
command.
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2390 [18:03:37] <john_s> miraculously after the next reboot it
just undid the wine installation thing and also broke off the
wine-development uninstall but that's not something I remember
doing.
2391 [18:03:47] <redrabbit> what i'm trying to do is a cli
only machine that is used to create a wireless AP sharing internet
from another AP while passing though a vpn
2392 [18:03:54] <redrabbit> so clients are all behind the vpn
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2395 [18:03:58] <john_s> I am really just trying to say
"cancel that command".
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2397 [18:04:31] <redrabbit> id prefer to use wpa_supplicant than
network managers though
2398 [18:04:45] <redrabbit> that have been the most reliable for
me usually
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2402 [18:05:57] <blind> Using jessie, I'm unable to install
the package 'mono-devel' because there's an unmet
dependency for libgdiplus on libjpeg8 which apparently isn't
available in jessie..
2403 [18:06:15] <missmbob> !bat
2404 [18:06:16] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2408 [18:07:48] <dionysus69> how do I manage two finer scrolling
speed?
2409 [18:07:58] <dionysus69> it is very sensitive and practically
unusable
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2416 [18:08:51] <blind>
replaced-url
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2420 [18:09:34] <john_s> abrotman: sorry for not responding
sooner. I guess last time it was still downloading. Other times it
is already unpacking.
2421 [18:09:37] <redrabbit> so i need to connect to VPN from wlan1
then reshare that from wlan2
2422 [18:09:52] <abrotman> blind: apt-get update .. try again
2423 [18:10:01] <blind> abrotman: have done many updates
2424 [18:10:10] <redrabbit> and still be able to connect to wlan1
lan to send http requests so i stay connected to the hotspot
2425 [18:10:23] <missmbob> blind: you have a frankendebian.
xamarin. eek
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2427 [18:10:29] <blind> I do not...
2428 [18:10:38] <blind> oh..
2429 [18:10:46] <missmbob> blind: yeah. that's why it's
broken
2430 [18:10:48] <abrotman> judd: versions libjpeg8
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2432 [18:10:54] <judd> Package: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- wheezy:
8d-1+deb7u1; sid: 8d1-2
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2434 [18:11:00] <abrotman> neat ...
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2436 [18:11:23] <blind> My bad, didn't realize mono-devel
wasn't debian...
2437 [18:11:29] <missmbob> , mono-devel
2438 [18:11:31] <missmbob> ,v mono-devel
2439 [18:11:33] <judd> Package: mono-devel on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; jessie:
3.2.8+dfsg-10; stretch: 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8; sid: 4.6.1.3+dfsg-8
2440 [18:11:40] <missmbob> it is if you get it from debian not
some third party place
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2443 [18:12:01] <blind> hrm.
2444 [18:12:10] <missmbob> anyway you should go ask the xamarin
people for help if that's what you want
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2446 [18:12:30] <blind> Nope, just the pointing out that it
wasn't you was enough.
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2449 [18:12:35] <blind> "you"
2450 [18:13:17] <redrabbit> missmbob: why do i have to type
dhclient though
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2452 [18:13:22] <redrabbit> is there a way to automate this
2453 [18:13:54] <missmbob> redrabbit: sure you can configure your
interfaces file
2454 [18:14:02] <redrabbit> i have to drop the machine somewhere i
will not be able to access physically it has to take care of
connecting by itself
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2456 [18:14:10] <missmbob> redrabbit:
replaced-url
2457 [18:14:19] <redrabbit> you mean /etc/network/interfaces
2458 [18:14:25] <redrabbit> ok :p
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2468 [18:16:27] <redrabbit> i guess problem comes from the fact
that i used "iface wlan1 inet manual" and not dhcp
2469 [18:16:42] <missmbob> yep, that'd do it
2470 [18:17:22] <redrabbit> that's what happen when you only
understand half of the stuff
2471 [18:17:28] <redrabbit> learm from mistakes though
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2508 [18:37:20] <Stable> Hello, I want to add numix-gtk-theme but
it is available only in unstable and testing version. I tried adding
it manually by unzipping inside /usr/share/themes/ but it won't
show up in settings, please help. I am using xfce4.
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2513 [18:38:48] <missmbob> Stable: with that particular package
you can just grab the one from testing and it wont break stuff.
replaced-url
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2517 [18:41:15] <missmbob> Stable: and you might have to restart
your DE for it to show up
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2523 [18:43:10] <Stable> missmbob: thank you
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2545 [18:54:12] <r0man> hi there, looking for the uk sources.list
for some reason mine won't work
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2547 [18:55:01] <r0man> using this atm ->
replaced-url
2548 [18:55:21] <jelly> r0man: which debian release?
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2550 [18:55:42] <r0man> jessie
2551 [18:55:48] <jelly> !jessie sources.list
2552 [18:55:48] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
2553 [18:56:20] <r0man> alright i'll try that
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2555 [18:56:43] <jelly> deb.debian.org is, I think, supposed to be
a geodns setup redirecting you to a close mirror
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2558 [18:58:02] <hexnewbie> r0man: It also matters why it
doesn't work. Sometimes your nearby mirror is down (happens
often to me)
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2568 [19:00:37] <usr_> is this distro comes with pre-installed
music player
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2570 [19:01:34] <sh00p> usually the music player comes with the
gui of your choice
2571 [19:01:44] <sh00p> i dont believe mp3 decoder is included
since it is not free
2572 [19:02:15] <sh00p> i'd just install vlc and use it as
primary media player
2573 [19:02:43] * zykotick9 has never had problems playing mp3 files in
debian! and he doesn't use any contrib/non-free packages...
2574 [19:02:55] <sh00p> hmm i might be mistaken
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2604 [19:17:24] <russelsteapot> anyone have any experience doing
an upgrade from one release to the next on an encrypted device? im
trying to figure out how problematic it would be to do an encrypted
install of 8, and then upgrade in place when 9 comes out. im
assuming it would not be simple, but i thought id try to get
feedback
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2610 [19:18:42] <nkuttler> russelsteapot: same as on unencrypted.
upgrade, reboot. enter passphrase
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2612 [19:19:14] <n4dir> i too wouldn't know why it would be
any harder than an unencrypted upgrade
2613 [19:19:18] <russelsteapot> and if you do a custom install?
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2615 [19:19:35] <n4dir> huh?
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2618 [19:20:13] <russelsteapot> I wanted to do my own encrypted
install, so with a different encryption scheme than what the default
debian installer might allow for
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2621 [19:20:51] <nkuttler> russelsteapot: as long as the kernel
supports your encryption
2622 [19:21:22] <russelsteapot> hmm, good to know, thx
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2624 [19:22:22] <n4dir> what encryption scheme would be different
than the ones getting done by the installer?
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2670 [19:37:19] <dob1> hi, i would like to buy a shuttle ds67u3,
it's based on i3-6100 skylake. i read about jessie skylake
support, seems that i need to install backport kernel and some
firmware packages, right? what i don't get is, can i install
jessie directly ?
2671 [19:37:42] <dob1> or the installer will stop/doesn't
work?
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2673 [19:38:38] <missmbob> dob1: should be fine in text mode
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2675 [19:38:56] <dob1> missmbob, text mode is ncurse mode?
2676 [19:39:03] <missmbob> yeah
2677 [19:39:13] <dob1> it's ok, i always use this mode
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2683 [19:40:03] <dob1> missmbob, there are other issues about
skylake support that you are aware? after upgrading the kernel to
the backport one
2684 [19:40:37] <missmbob> dob1: you'll probably need new
xorg drivers from jessie-backports as well
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2686 [19:41:39] <babilen> (if not more)
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2695 [19:45:15] <dob1> babilen, the version on backports is not
enough?
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2698 [19:45:43] <missmbob> he means more from backports. you might
need mesa packages, for example. jessie-backports has those as well
2699 [19:46:19] <jim> hi... I think I want to test the testing
netinst, and my cpu can do virt (I have fired up a netinst before on
this machine), I want to figure out how to give it lvs, or maybe a
vg full of lvs
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2701 [19:46:50] <dob1> missmbob, i got it, thanks
2702 [19:47:01] <jim> so I'm asking here, because I want to
run kvm/qemu on jessie
2703 [19:47:51] <jim> for the stuff that has more to do with
what's installed, I'll ask on oftc/#debian-next
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2705 [19:48:57] <jim> I think the issue has been, I can't see
the vg in the netinst run
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2737 [20:07:53] <kerunaru> exit
2738 [20:08:04] <kerunaru> Ooops :P
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2888 [21:20:28] <kap> I am running testing right now. I need the
latest firefox though. Is this the actually debian mozilla
team's site?
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2894 [21:22:51] <missmbob> kap yes, it is.
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2897 [21:23:29] <kap> Thank you missmbob, So everying in
debian.net namespace is official?
2898 [21:23:34] <missmbob> kap yes
2899 [21:23:37] <kap> ah
2900 [21:23:44] <geetansh> yes
2901 [21:24:04] <kap> I know I sound insane but how can I verify
that?
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2903 [21:24:12] <kap> im looking around on debian.org
2904 [21:24:20] <kap> to find links to debian.net
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2913 [21:28:34] <missmbob> kap:
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2914 [21:29:02] <kap> missmbob: you the best
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3018 [22:21:49] <autoremove> Hello, I removed some xfce4 plugins I
thought were not needed. Now I am getting this message "
3019 [22:23:34] <autoremove> "These packages were
automatically installed and are no longer needed, use apt-get
autoremove to remove them" and lists all xfce4 package and
dependencies
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3021 [22:25:11] <missmbob> if you want to keep them just apt-get
install all the packages it wants to remove. that'll reset the
flag as manually installed (it wont actually reinstall anything)
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3038 [22:35:08] <autoremove> missmbob: thank you so much
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3042 [22:39:00] <petn-randall> It's enough if you just set
the relevant packages that way, though. You still might want to
autoremove unused libs.
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3077 [22:52:05] <bikermapman> test
3078 [22:52:26] <Jonz3n> Would anyone recommend investing in a ide
ssd drive?
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3084 [22:53:14] <Jonz3n> I have an i5 netbook that I use to learn
Linux and the drive needs replacing as it is ...
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3088 [22:54:12] <nkuttler> sure. ssd all the things
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3090 [22:56:16] <Jonz3n> Ok so the drive in there now does this
thing where it chokes on I/O even simple things like opening a new
terminal window then it's good for a while then it does it
again...
3091 [22:56:57] <pos> Is the bootup-text logged anywhere?
3092 [22:57:05] <Jonz3n> That is an indication that the drive
(from 2011) is on it way out right?
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3094 [22:57:56] <Jonz3n> Yea but I'm on the road right now
(not driving) and my netbook is out of juice
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3098 [22:58:58] <Jonz3n> Pos: do you mean systemctl?
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3100 [22:59:22] <Jonz3n> Or rather journalctl
3101 [22:59:29] <pos> The rolling wall of text as the system boot
3102 [22:59:45] <pos> some is found in syslog ofc, but not all
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3105 [23:00:30] <Jonz3n> The only fail I get during boot is RF
load save state but that is common with Acer netbook I have found
out
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3108 [23:01:20] <Jonz3n> Is there a command to pipe that to a txt
at boot?
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3117 [23:06:06] <n4dir> Jonz3n: back then there was bootlogd, but
the debian wiki says for system you will need this:
replaced-url
3118 [23:06:21] <n4dir> s/system/systemd
3119 [23:06:46] <Jonz3n> Thanks
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3136 [23:14:59] <petn-randall> Jonz3n: 'smartctl -a
/dev/sda' will tell you about the health of your drive. You can
paste it to
replaced-url
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3161 [23:23:08] <Jonz3n> Thanks I will do that as sop as it is
charged up
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3164 [23:24:02] <centrx> petn-randall: Can you recommend something
for a total hardware checkup? (in addition to smartctl and
memtest86) ?
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3186 [23:36:08] <Jonz3n> I apparently don't have smartctl nor
is it available from apt-get google here I come...
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3189 [23:37:54] <centrx> Jonz3n: I think it's in the
smartmontools package
3190 [23:38:05] <centrx> Jonz3n: Generally don't just install
things off the Internet, use the package
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3193 [23:38:48] <Jonz3n> Yup it's installing
3194 [23:39:08] <Jonz3n> I googled smartctl
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3196 [23:39:39] <Jonz3n> Which lead me to the package, then I
check if I have the man then I apt-got it
3197 [23:40:12] <Jonz3n> I'm not that much of a noob...
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3199 [23:42:20] <Jonz3n_> I start to problem @the house 😣
3200 [23:43:13] <centrx> You were hacking e-mail before it was
invented
3201 [23:44:15] <petn-randall> Jonz3n_: Install
'command-not-found', then it'll tell you which
package to install if you don't have that command.
3202 [23:44:34] <petn-randall> Jonz3n_: If you disk is broken,
there's no need to check your RAM.
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3205 [23:45:00] <petn-randall> Jonz3n: Sure, you can test if you
like, but it's not related to your current problem.
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3232 [23:57:03] <jonz3n> ok so now i am actualy at my kb
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3236 [23:58:01] <jonz3n> so i just installed smartmontools and
updat-rc.d fell back to defaults?
3237 [23:58:16] <jonz3n> that normal behavior?
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3239 [23:59:16] <cyphix> About two years ago, I created a jail
using jailkit. But for a few times (maybe a day, maybe 2 weeks, not
sure), I can't connect to it anymore. I run debian testing. Any
idea why it does not work anymore? Is it a known issue? I
haven't changed anything linked to my jail since a very long
time
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