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64[00:31:03] <gebruiker> Guys, what is the command again to
list all packages that are not installed from offical repository?
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69[00:32:45] <Atm0spher1c> why do you want to do that??
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70[00:33:09] <bazhang> did you mean dpkg -l
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72[00:33:47] <gebruiker> bazhang: yeah similar but more
elegantly and less time consuming
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73[00:34:18] <bazhang> that takes about two seconds
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76[00:34:34] <Atm0spher1c> dpkg -l doesnt list not installed
packages tho
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77[00:34:34] <dpkg> No packages found matching doesnt list not
installed packages tho
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79[00:34:41] <gebruiker> i know there is an aptitude reg exp
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avail
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80[00:34:47] <Atm0spher1c> apt-cache search
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84[00:35:46] <TomTomTo1> aptitude search
"?narrow(?installed, ?not(?archive(stable)))"
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88[00:36:07] <TomTomTo1> well... maybe not ?archive, lemme see.
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93[00:36:49] <gebruiker> TomTomTo1: thanks!
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95[00:37:08] <TomTomTo1> ?origin(Debian) would probably be a
better fit.
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150[00:59:06] <f31n> hi, i've got an issue with psad,
auto_dl / whitelisting istn't working?
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151[00:59:58] <f31n> it keeps blocking my ip even though its
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173[01:12:31] <debbynoob> hello my dudes
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175[01:12:52] <debbynoob> does anyone here have experience
booting debian live?
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177[01:13:23] <somiaj> it only boots in legacy mode, it
won't boot using efi
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179[01:13:45] <debbynoob> i see
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180[01:14:14] <debbynoob> i downloaded xfce debian to a usb
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182[01:14:25] <debbynoob> but now i'm not sure what to do
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183[01:14:29] <somiaj> also use cp to put it on the usb drive.
Don't use unetbootin or anything like that
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184[01:14:31] <debbynoob> i know how to get to my BIOS
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185[01:14:32] <somiaj> what os are you on?
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186[01:14:41] <debbynoob> windows
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187[01:14:41] <debbynoob> 10
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188[01:14:46] <somiaj> !win32diskimager
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189[01:14:46] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
replaced-url
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191[01:14:54] <somiaj> use that to copy the image onto the usb
drive
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193[01:15:05] <debbynoob> i used 7zip
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194[01:15:07] <debbynoob> alright
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195[01:16:10] <themill> 7zip is going to unpack the ISO into a
collection of (unbootable) files
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222[01:24:46] <debbynoob> when i format my USB should it be in
16 bits or 64
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223[01:25:44] <bazhang> did you mean fat32
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224[01:25:51] <CutMeOwnThroat> the image contains the format.
you copy the image on the raw stick device, not into a filesysem on
the stick
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225[01:25:53] <themill> debbynoob: for the installer?
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228[01:26:41] <debbynoob> themill yes the USB will be my
installer, i haven't copied anything to it yet
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229[01:27:03] <debbynoob> also the Win32 imager isn't
finding any iso files when i go to select an image
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231[01:27:36] <themill> Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.*
if it doesn't show Debian .iso images
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233[01:28:06] <mns> I'm setting up a mail system on a new
debian/testing system. whats a good spam filter to use ? I'll
be using postfix as my MTA
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234[01:28:13] <debbynoob> and then to send it to my USB i just
hit "write"?
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252[01:38:45] <somiaj> If it dosen't boot double check you
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296[01:58:31] <unkmar> Any ideas on how to create an active
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297[01:58:49] <debbynoob> okay so i tried using Win32 to write
the .iso file to the USB and it corrupted the USB
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298[02:00:15] <somiaj> unkmar: xcompmgr can create transparent
windows using newer xorg extensions
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299[02:00:39] <somiaj> debbynoob: it will destroy data on the
usb and put the image on it. The usb should be fine though.
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302[02:00:59] <debbynoob> when i tried to boot it, the usb
wasn't even found
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306[02:01:21] <debbynoob> like, i went to create a new boot path
and it couldn't even find the USB
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308[02:01:36] <somiaj> debbynoob: sounds like you are talking
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309[02:01:48] <debbynoob> how would i go about doing that?
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311[02:02:11] <somiaj> load into your bios/firmware and double
check the settings
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312[02:02:32] <debbynoob> alright will do
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333[02:17:27] <debbynoob> so i went in and checked but legacy
USB was already enabled
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336[02:18:45] <debbynoob> so yeah i don't know what's
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338[02:19:05] <debbynoob> the USB is still corrupted and my bios
won't acknowledge it exists while its corrupt so i can't
boot
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346[02:22:43] <jeep> debbynoob: remake the usb ?
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347[02:22:50] <debbynoob> reformat it?
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348[02:22:51] <petemc> debbynoob: why are you wasting time
trying to use something you know is broken?
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349[02:23:11] <petemc> beat me to it
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350[02:23:17] <debbynoob> using Win32 to copy the iso file to
the USB corrupts the USB
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351[02:23:34] <thenwkg> Hello guys. I am trying to install this
bitmap font
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352[02:23:38] <petemc> windows wont be able to read it, thats
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354[02:23:46] <thenwkg> Tried re loging and rebooting but still
won't work.
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359[02:25:02] <jeep> debbynoob: windows cant read it and then
you have issues in the uefi/bios with seeing or booting the usb ..
check settings / maybe use different usb
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366[02:27:12] <debbynoob> is there another program i can use to
copy the files to the USB?
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367[02:27:16] <roger`> rufus
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368[02:27:21] <somiaj> win32diskimager should work
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369[02:27:24] <debbynoob> i used 7zip previously and it worked
sort of,
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370[02:27:28] <somiaj> roger`: rufus may not work with debian
images and shouldn't be suggested
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371[02:27:50] <somiaj> debbynoob: check the md5sum of the iso,
make sure it wasn't damaged
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372[02:27:50] <roger`> win32diskimager should work indeed
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373[02:28:12] <debbynoob> how do i check the md5sum without
extracting it
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374[02:28:51] <jeep> debbynoob: used to be nice windows program
md5summer i think it was called not sure ifit exists
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375[02:29:02] <somiaj> you take the md5 sum of the whole image
(the .iso) and compare it to what is listed on the debian download
site
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378[02:32:09] <debbynoob> the process i followed was: torrent
iso, then copy iso to usb using win32 or 7zip and like i actually
got it to almost boot with 7zip i just lacked a .efi thing
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380[02:32:30] <debbynoob> so i should just re-torrent it and
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382[02:33:01] <somiaj> you should check the md5 sum to ensure
you the torrent didn't corrupt the download. win32diskimager
should have made a bootable image (provided you use legacy boot)
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384[02:33:25] <somiaj> note the offical installers (not live
images) do support more boot options (such as efi), you'll make
the image int he same way (unsure if you wanted a live image or to
install)
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388[02:35:23] <debbynoob> i wanted a live image
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389[02:35:32] <debbynoob> idk maybe we should start from the
beginning?
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390[02:35:52] <debbynoob> this is where i should torrent my live
image, right?
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391[02:35:52] <debbynoob>
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393[02:36:24] <debbynoob> i'm going with xfce if this is
the correct place to download it, which i'm pretty sure it is
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394[02:36:37] <somiaj> that might be your problem grab the
iso-hybrid (not bt-hybrid)
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399[02:39:03] <debbynoob> ah i see
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400[02:39:04] <debbynoob> alright
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401[02:39:06] <debbynoob>
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402[02:39:17] <debbynoob> which of these do i install?
there's a lot of them and i don't know the difference
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403[02:39:57] <debbynoob> do i go with "[ISO]
debian-live-8.6.0-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso " ?
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405[02:40:36] <debbynoob> sorry, i mean
"debian-live-8.6.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso"
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408[02:43:06] <debbynoob> somiaj?
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412[02:44:46] <missmbob> live doesnt support uefi, btw
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414[02:45:00] <missmbob> i wouldnt use live to install anyway
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417[02:46:24] <missmbob> debbynoob: get the one that doesnt have
the word "live" in the name
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418[02:46:27] <somiaj> debbynoob: yup. And as missmbob said, the
offical image is a better installer and boots efi. But for a live
image that is what debian offers.
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421[02:46:54] <somiaj> and depending on hardware (like wifi) you
may want the nonfree live image with the firmware.
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422[02:47:00] <debbynoob> but i want to boot it live?
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423[02:47:12] <debbynoob> OH
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425[02:47:14] <debbynoob> sorry alright
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429[02:49:20] <debbynoob> somiaj so i get the netinst from here?
and download it and then copy it to my USB?
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432[02:50:51] <somiaj> debbynoob: correct
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433[02:50:53] <somiaj> !firmware images
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434[02:50:54] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
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435[02:51:26] <somiaj> that is an unoffical netinstaller with
non-free fimrware that helps on lots of machines with wifi (and some
wired) connenctions
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438[02:54:39] <debbynoob> sweet it didn't corrupt my USB
and i see a folder called efi on it
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439[02:54:46] <debbynoob> i'ma reboot and see what happens
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448[02:58:49] <Debbynoob> sweet Christmas it worked
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450[02:59:05] <Debbynoob> do I hit install now? Or graphical
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451[02:59:08] <somiaj> Debbynoob: I think the only issue with
the live image was you got the bt image not the iso image.
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453[02:59:31] <somiaj> Debbynoob: they are equivlant in terms of
options. Depends on if you want a graphical enviroment or just a
ncurses enviorment. Both work very similar (one allows mouse)
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454[02:59:39] <somiaj> !install guide
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455[02:59:39] <dpkg> The Installation Guide for Debian 8
"Jessie" can be found at
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456[02:59:46] <Debbynoob> Yeah this worked like a dream
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458[03:01:24] <unkmar> somiaj: Thank you. I think I'm
looking for something more like a widget machine. Something that
will let me craft a particarly window to have transparency effects.
Not add generic fancy features to all windows.
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461[03:01:52] <debbynoob_> yeah so I went with graphical and now
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462[03:01:55] <somiaj> unkmar: xcompmngr can be done on a per
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464[03:02:30] <debbynoob_> I'm missing some firmware
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465[03:02:33] <somiaj> unkmar: I use fvwm and you can build
custom transparent widgets with that (though only root transparent,
so psudo, but it works)
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466[03:02:51] <somiaj> debbynoob_: which is why I suggested the
non-free image. Do you need wifi to install?
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467[03:03:01] <unkmar> so, only root transparent, as in Desktop
only?
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468[03:03:18] <debbynoob_> yes
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469[03:03:22] <debbynoob_> connecting to wifi now
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471[03:03:44] <somiaj> unkmar: or background of the root window
(sometimes called the desktop window)
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472[03:03:45] <unkmar> debbynoob_: congratulations.
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473[03:04:04] <somiaj> but you should check out xcompmangr, not
sure if you really want to swtich to a different window manager at
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475[03:04:17] <somiaj> you can have it make a single window as
transparent as you want.
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479[03:06:37] <unkmar> somiaj: Thank you. I think I will give
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491[03:11:47] <debbynoob> It's asking me to partition disks
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492[03:12:12] <somiaj> debbynoob: it wants to know where you
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493[03:12:43] <debbynoob> no, what is it?
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494[03:12:56] <somiaj> your harddrive where the files are
installed can be broken into multiple partitions
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495[03:13:02] <debbynoob> I'm trying to do it all on one
USB but I know this USB is tiny
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496[03:13:04] <somiaj> you need at least 1 (well 2 for linux)
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498[03:13:18] <debbynoob> how would I make one?
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499[03:13:41] <somiaj> usb installs can be slugish and hard to
deal with. I would go get the live image if you want a live image.
The advise about the netinstall was only if you were wanting to
install this on your harddrive.
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500[03:14:07] <debbynoob> rip
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501[03:14:16] <somiaj> debbynoob: one of the options is guide
partition or something like that and it will just partition it for
you. Just becareful you pick the right disk because this will
destroy the data on the disk
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502[03:14:23] <somiaj> (after that debian will copy its data
onto it)
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503[03:14:48] <debbynoob> yeah like I wanted to so this live
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504[03:15:35] <somiaj> then get the live image. Just get the
iso-hybrid image (not the bt one)
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539[03:38:52] <__imp__> Hello! In the past (init) I was able to
configure my VTs on inittab, and I could start any applications that
I want (not only getty -> login ). Today, on systemd I have no
idea how to add a command to start associated with a VT, someone can
point me the directions?
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543[03:39:59] <Svetlana> __imp__: if nobody gives a helpful
reply here, ask #systemd and share their solution here
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544[03:40:26] <__imp__> Svetlana: Ok. Thankyou.
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546[03:41:30] <Svetlana> You are welcome.
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564[03:54:09] <primevere> whoami
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570[03:57:59] <missmbob> primevere: that's way too deep for
this channel. try #debian-offtopic
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571[03:58:15] <primevere> lol
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581[04:13:39] <missmbob> jmcnaught: i tried icedove bacause you
mentioned you used it and i was bored. i have about a ten second
delay when clicking on "write" and the compose window
poping up. most clicks take several seconds to load a dialog (though
not menu). do you experience this?
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588[04:15:10] <YottaByte> I want to download debian to install
with a usb drive, which one do I need to download:
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589[04:15:14] <YottaByte> 64 bit cpu
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590[04:15:45] <missmbob> YottaByte: will you have internet
access that doesn't need special wifi to install?
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591[04:15:57] <YottaByte> no internet access
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593[04:16:24] <missmbob> YottaByte: do you know which desktop
you want?
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595[04:16:37] <YottaByte> whatever the default is
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597[04:17:00] <YottaByte> kde?
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600[04:17:22] <missmbob> gnome is default.
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603[04:17:59] <edve> Isnt on cli on that iso ?
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604[04:18:01] <missmbob> though with no internet you should
probably get dvd1 just to be sure
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607[04:18:35] <missmbob> edve: do you speak english? what you
said made no sense
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608[04:18:46] <edve> Yeah lol sorry
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609[04:18:58] <edve> Isnt only CLI on that disc ?
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610[04:19:19] <edve> Im pretty surr the best would be to take
the DVD
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611[04:19:21] <YottaByte> missmbob oh really?
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612[04:19:27] <missmbob> YottaByte: yes, really
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613[04:19:46] <YottaByte> k downloading now
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614[04:20:27] <YottaByte> I can use a usb drive with the dvd as
well, right?
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615[04:20:33] <missmbob> sure
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616[04:20:48] <missmbob> YottaByte: how do you plan to copy the
iso to the usb? (yes, it matters)
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618[04:21:41] <YottaByte> unetbootin is what I've typically
used on windows
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619[04:21:49] <missmbob> no, dont you dare
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620[04:21:51] <missmbob> !unetbootin
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621[04:21:52] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer)
allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux
distributions.
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622[04:22:01] <missmbob> you need to use win32diskimager
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623[04:22:08] <missmbob> !tell YottaByte about win32diskimager
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625[04:22:42] <YottaByte> k will do
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627[04:22:51] <YottaByte> the page isn't loading
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628[04:23:34] <missmbob> i dont know that "the page"
means because i'm not psychic and can't see your screen
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629[04:24:21] <YottaByte> the page loaded
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630[04:24:53] <missmbob> that's terrific. thanks for
clearing it up.
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631[04:25:51] <ryouma> maybe referring to a web page that you
pointed him or her to?
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643[04:32:49] <YottaByte> im writing the debian dvd .iso to my
flash drive now using win32 disk imager. it defaulted to looking for
.img but I selected the .iso. is that ok?
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646[04:33:24] <missmbob> yes.
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662[04:45:21] <jmcnaught> missmbob: i've never seen that
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667[04:46:05] <ska> Does Grub support booting from Raid5/Raid6?
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686[04:59:17] <texnofobix> ska: I'm not aware of any, but
doesnt mean it isn't possible. Are you planning on using raid5
as your boot media?
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693[05:02:37] <ska> texnofobix: No, I decided to create a 20GB
partition. Booting from R5 is asking for troubles me thinks.
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695[05:02:57] <toruvinn> sigh. this is a bit less related to
Debian I guess, but it does happen on Debian too. ;-P anyone any
idea why mdraid (raid1) check/repair doesn't overwrite
unreadable sectors on the devices? after trying out various things,
i still have 2 pending sectors according to SMART.
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696[05:04:19] <texnofobix> ska: It might cause more complexity
than it's worth
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697[05:04:49] <texnofobix> that is to try to boot on raid
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731[05:29:58] <missmbob> jmcnaught: are you using gmail?
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732[05:31:20] <jmcnaught> missmbob: not right now, but i did
have a gmail account configured in it recently
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733[05:31:46] <jmcnaught> i'm pretty sure gmail was
configured with the wizard and it used oauth for authentication
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734[05:32:49] <missmbob> jmcnaught: it's happening with me
with google for your domain and yes it gave me oauth. but it's
so slow. and with iceowl it will not let me dismiss alerts on
calendars i only have read-only on. which is insane. do you use
read-only calendars?
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736[05:33:44] <jmcnaught> missmbob: i just use local calendars.
i've done caldav with owncloud and drupal
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737[05:33:56] <nmschulte> Can I: dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/dev/sdc3 #
-- so long as sdc3 is > sdb2?
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742[05:35:32] <missmbob> jmcnaught: maybe i'll just try
stretch at this point. i cant find any good email/calendar solution
it seems on jessie
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743[05:35:38] <n4dir> nmschulte: i can't see how trying
should do any harm
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744[05:35:52] <n4dir> i'd say, yes, you can, but would not
be too sure
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745[05:36:28] <nmschulte> n4dir: trying just means, long time is
all.
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746[05:36:37] <nmschulte> I think it'll work fine.
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747[05:36:55] <n4dir> oh, they are big? i thought of SD-cards or
USB-sticks, sorry
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748[05:36:59] <nmschulte> It should be loads faster than an
rsync, right? assuming the FS is mostly full.
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751[05:37:40] <nmschulte> sequential read / write vs
"random"/ext4
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754[05:38:50] <n4dir> nmschulte: better wait till someone can
confirm, perhaps dd if=/media/mount-of-sdb2 is needed instead?
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758[05:40:01] <n4dir> as far it's me i consider both, dd
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800[06:12:59] <LambdaComplex> Do the live hybrid ISOs support
booting/installation in UEFI mode? The ones at
replaced-url
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804[06:17:27] <jmcnaught> LambdaComplex: live images don't
support UEFI booting
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807[06:19:08] <LambdaComplex> jmcnaught: Well, I'm trying
to do a UEFI install of Debian with KDE. Which image should I use
for that?
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808[06:19:44] <jmcnaught> LambdaComplex: any of the installer
images. Most people use the netinst image if they have a working
internet connection during the install
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810[06:20:24] <LambdaComplex> jmcnaught: Will that let me choose
a DE during installation?
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811[06:20:41] <jmcnaught> LambdaComplex: yes, all of the
installer images let you choose DE
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812[06:21:43] <jmcnaught> the difference is that
debian…-kde-CD-1.iso has a bunch of KDE packages on the iso,
where netinst downloads what it needs during the install (which is
usually less total downloading)
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817[06:26:00] <LambdaComplex> jmcnaught: Sounds like the netinst
will work fine for me
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818[06:26:03] <LambdaComplex> Thanks :)
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819[06:26:38] <jmcnaught> LambdaComplex: cheers :) also the
install manual for Debian is quite good, worth at least a skim:
replaced-url
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826[06:28:25] <LambdaComplex> Might as well skim it!
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827[06:28:45] <LambdaComplex> Trying to get my friend's new
computer working. Tried Xubuntu first, but that...didn't
exactly work
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829[06:29:33] <LambdaComplex> And by that I mean "Seemed to
fail when switching to the proprietary nvidia driver, then failed
when updating shim-signed via the gui updater, then apparently had
issues updating 29 packages via apt"
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833[06:30:01] <plasmoduck> should have chosen Debian first ;-)
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834[06:30:30] <LambdaComplex> Lesson learned ;)
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installing Gentoo...
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851[06:43:07] <missmbob> LambdaComplex: why do you think we
should help you with ubuntu problems?
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864[06:54:15] <LambdaComplex> missmbob: well, if you read what i
said, you'd see my solution was to install debian :P
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886[07:09:23] <Lope> is debian testing a rolling distro?
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895[07:14:18] <jmcnaught> Lope: no, it's a development
release that imports packages from Debian unstable according to
certain rules, and at some point freezes and then becomes a stable
release
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899[07:15:36] <Lope> jmcnaught: if I set my apt sources to refer
to "testing" rather than a release name, then will I have
a rolling distro if I just keep upgrading it regularly?
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903[07:17:24] <jmcnaught> Lope: it's not recommended to set
apt sources to testing. the period immediately after a stable
release (when testing is thawed) can be quite turbulent with lots of
major changes that were waiting in queue during the freeze
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905[07:18:12] <jmcnaught> Lope: there are other caveats too,
such as testing gets no security support so it is usually the last
to get security fixes
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907[07:19:02] <Lope> jmcnaught: what about running siduction if
I want a rollind debian distro?
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908[07:19:18] <jmcnaught> you also shouldn't consider
testing unless you have the skills to fix your system when something
breaks
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909[07:19:46] <Lope> jmcnaught: okay, so if I want a rolling
debian distro that's fairly stable, could I use stretch, and
then just upgrade to the next testing release, when I'm ready?
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910[07:19:55] <jmcnaught> Lope: siduction and others like it are
separate distros from Debian that introduce other changes
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912[07:20:07] <Lope> I once upgraded a RbPi from Deb 7 to Deb 8.
Was fairly easy.
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914[07:20:18] <Lope> A walk in the park actually, just took a
while :)
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917[07:20:26] <jmcnaught> upgrading debian stable releases is
easy
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918[07:20:59] <jmcnaught> a lot of the work that goes into a new
release is making the upgrade path as smooth as possible, it's
one of the big reasons to use Debian
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921[07:21:21] <Lope> Well, it depends what you mean by "fix
your system" but I've been using linux for 3 years, I
regularly compile from source and have a bit of experience with
stuff like backporting and bootloaders and whatnot.
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923[07:22:03] <Lope> jmcnaught: I like debian, but I find the
packages are too old for my liking.
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924[07:22:29] <jmcnaught> Lope: you could try to use testing as
a sort of rolling distro, lots of people do. definitely read up as
much as you can on the subject (preferring resources from
debian.org). also testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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925[07:23:42] <Lope> So I've been using Ubuntu. But they
have a 4 year release cycle, which seems to require a reinstall,
though that may just be because I've been using linux mint
mate.
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928[07:25:48] <jmcnaught> Lope: distros are more separate than
you seem to think. mint isn't ubuntu, neither is debian
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931[07:27:08] <Lope> jmcnaught: yes I realize they're
separate, but mint uses all of ubuntu's packages.
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932[07:27:24] <Lope> So mint is basically all the ubuntu
software, with a custom DE.
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935[07:28:35] <jmcnaught> Lope: it's the changes that mint
makes that make it unable to do major release upgrades. ubuntu can
do them, but that's off-topic here.
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939[07:29:23] <jmcnaught> Lope: not wanting to have to do a lot
of maintenance on your computer once it's set up is a good
reason to use Debian
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940[07:29:42] <jmcnaught> the packages aren't that old, and
they're extensively tested and bugfixed
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968[07:43:54] <Lope> On a laptop full disk encryption would
probbaly be a good idea. Is there a good guide for installing debian
on FDE?
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969[07:45:15] <zykotick9> Lope: it's pretty straight
forward with the netinst... just select it during the partitioning
step
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971[07:46:32] <Lope> zyclonicz: ah yes I recall seeing it.
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972[07:46:49] <Lope> zyclonicz: what about doing funky stuff
like putting the bootloader off-disk?
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973[07:46:59] <Lope> and the headers etc
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974[07:47:50] <Lope> I guess I need to play around in a VM.
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975[07:49:09] <zykotick9> Lope: i've only ever done the
encrypted-lvm option from install... nothing fancier
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978[07:51:01] <Lope> zykotick9: I'm weary of using any
crutches like the installer to do everything for me.
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980[07:51:17] <Lope> Because if something goes wrong I want to
know how to fix it.
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981[07:51:51] <Lope> For example I've always had trouble
mounting ecryptFS home partitions, but when I make my own, I've
not ever had any trouble mounting them anywhere.
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982[07:53:33] <zykotick9> i use encrypted partitions on
usb/externals... mounting LVM is something i have to lookup, but
luckly i've only had to do that a couple times
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984[07:54:39] <n4dir1> you can install do an encrypted install
without lvm, but it's a bit of clicking back and forth during
installation
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985[07:54:50] <n4dir1> can't remember the details, too long
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987[07:55:37] <n4dir1> if all you want is an encrypted home:
don't create /home during installation, do the cryptsetup
voodoo after installation and edit fstab accordingly
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999[08:03:43] <Lope> zykotick9: i didn't say anything about
mounting LVM
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1001[08:04:30] <Lope> no, i don't want only encrypted home.
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1002[08:04:37] <zykotick9> Lope: i realize, i was just sharing my
personal experience. mounting LUKS encryption i find easy... LVM not
so much. YMMV
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1003[08:04:46] <Lope> LVM is a bad choice for externals,
I've found.
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1004[08:05:08] <Lope> you can't just unmount an LVM
formatted external drive.
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1005[08:05:13] <Lope> and remove it.
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1006[08:05:21] <zykotick9> i don't use LVM on externals,
just straight LUKS... i don't even partition external drives ;)
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1007[08:05:24] <Lope> You have to disable the PV or whatever,
it's a whole PITA>
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1008[08:05:40] <n4dir1> Lope try if this helps:
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1009[08:05:46] <Lope> zykotick9: do you leave the header files on
the externals?
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1010[08:07:26] <zykotick9> Lope: i guess, i don't do
anything special...
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1018[08:13:08] <Lope> is the mate DE available for debian
testing?
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1028[08:23:05] <ransur0t> yes
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1224[10:10:00] <zaufi> hi all. I'm trying to build my
library *.deb package and stuk to set a proper dependency of
'-dev' package from the main one. when I set it as
"libmy (= X.Y.Z)'" and then try to `apt-get install
libmy-dev`, apt claims about unmet dependencies :( -- libmy-dev :
Depends: libmy (= X.Y.Z) but it is not going to be installed
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1225[10:10:35] <zaufi> both packages, have same version of couse
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1226[10:11:15] <zaufi> anyone can point me where I'm
wrong...?
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1231[10:15:07] <Iridos> try without the version?
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1237[10:16:37] <TomyWork> hi
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1238[10:17:48] <TomyWork> we're creating packages for debian
using a maven plugin called jdeb. this plugin creates a conffiles
control file without leading slashes. is that a problem?
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1239[10:18:09] <TomyWork>
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1270[10:36:12] <BoBeR182> Hello How do I install openjdk from
debain jessie backports
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1272[10:36:23] <BoBeR182> I have debain jessie installed\
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1273[10:36:37] <BoBeR182> i need java v8
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1280[10:38:06] <OpenTokix> BoBeR182: debian jessie has openjdk 8
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1281[10:38:09] <OpenTokix> BoBeR182: openjdk-8-jre-headless
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1284[10:38:29] <OpenTokix> BoBeR182: You can also use ZEro/Shark
vm or JamVM if you want.
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1291[10:41:35] <BoBeR182> apt-get install openjdk-7-
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1292[10:41:35] <BoBeR182> openjdk-7-dbg openjdk-7-doc
openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless openjdk-7-jre-zero
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1293[10:41:35] <BoBeR182> openjdk-7-demo openjdk-7-jdk
openjdk-7-jre-dcevm openjdk-7-jre-lib openj
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1296[10:41:51] <BoBeR182> tab complete automagically changes it
to openjdk 7
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1298[10:43:12] <n4dir> not sure if that changed, but back then
you needed to add -t jessie-backports
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1299[10:43:29] <n4dir>
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1319[10:52:26] <BoBeR182> I got it to work I removed java7
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1320[10:52:31] <BoBeR182> so everything is on java8 now
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1321[10:52:35] <BoBeR182> thanks everyone
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1325[10:53:19] <TomTomTo1> brute!
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1326[10:53:24] <TomTomTo1> ^^
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1327[10:54:11] <gebruiker> :)
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1329[10:55:17] <raid5issue> may anybody give me hand trying to
recover a software RAID 5 failure? thanks
replaced-url
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root on boot even if i'm logged in as a regular user?
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1335[10:56:40] <tron> i.e. tlp
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1337[10:58:22] <gebruiker> an X program?
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1339[10:59:01] <tron> no, its a battery manager for laptops
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1346[11:02:57] <gebruiker> tron:
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1347[11:03:56] <petn-randall> raid5issue: If *two* disks failed,
you won't be able to recover any data. But it depends on how
they failed. If they only have a few unreadable sectors you might
recover most of it.
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1348[11:04:11] <tron> thanks
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1349[11:04:28] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Which OS release are
you running?
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1351[11:05:05] <raid5issue> that's my only chance, try to
fix those few sectors
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1352[11:05:09] <raid5issue> I'm using debian
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1358[11:06:49] <petn-randall> raid5issue: which release?
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1364[11:09:19] <raid5issue> petn-randall: jessie
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1370[11:10:58] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Can you paste the
output of 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' (and for sdb, sdb, ...)
to
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1372[11:11:38] <petn-randall> raid5issue: If you don't have
backups, you only realistic change would be to rescure copy those
both devices onto a spare device each, and then hope for the best.
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1376[11:12:04] <petn-randall> raid5issue: If you *have* backups,
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backups.
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1377[11:12:15] <petn-randall> s/change/chance/
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1379[11:12:21] <raid5issue> I didn't expect two disks to
fail at the same time...
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1380[11:12:32] <Screamslash> is there anyone here using openbox?
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1381[11:13:08] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Ah, that's
unfortunate. RAID is no replacement for backups though (Even an
offline copy of the data onto a USB drive helps).
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1385[11:15:00] <raid5issue> petn-randall: I guess sdc has more
chances to be rescued, because mdadm shows mdadm: No md superblock
detected on /dev/sda1.
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1386[11:16:08] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Could be. I can also
recommend to boot from a well known medium, because those failing
disks might have a limited remaining lifetime. So any minute
they're running it reduces the chance of recovering data.
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1390[11:16:50] <gry> Пол:5 file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository
apt-build/main i386 Packages
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1391[11:16:50] <gry> Ошк:5 file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository
apt-build/main i386 Packages
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1392[11:16:51] <gry> Файл не найден -
/var/cache/apt-build/repository/dists/apt-build/main/binary-i386/Packages
(2: Нет такого файла или каталога)
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1393[11:17:04] <gry> what is this when i do apt update? i did not
touch that in my sources.list
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1394[11:17:14] <petn-randall> !localized errors
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1395[11:17:15] <dpkg> Rather than hoping that we recognise what
has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language,
please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by
setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the
command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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1397[11:17:33] <gry> ok. Err:4
file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build/main i386 Packages
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1398[11:17:33] <gry> File not found -
/var/cache/apt-build/repository/dists/apt-build/main/binary-i386/Packages
(2: No such file or directory)
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1400[11:17:50] <gry> why does it care? i'm asking it to
download new packages from the internet not from my cache
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1401[11:18:04] <petn-randall> !bat
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1402[11:18:04] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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1403[11:18:10] <gry>
replaced-url
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1404[11:18:16] <petn-randall> gry: Can you provide this output
^^^ ?
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1405[11:18:19] <gry> ok
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1406[11:19:06] <raid5issue> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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1407[11:19:12] <gry> it's a pain that '|
pastebinit' is not enough for capturing stderr too (
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1409[11:19:38] <petn-randall> gry: '<your command>
2>&1 | pastebinit'
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1411[11:20:26] <gry>
replaced-url
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1413[11:22:51] <petn-randall> raid5issue: sdc is toast; sda still
looks fine. Looking at Reallocated_Event_Count and
Current_Pending_Sector.
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1415[11:23:20] <petn-randall> raid5issue: I'd take the whole
RAID5 offline until the disk arrives, then clone sda onto a healthy
disk and hope for the best.
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1416[11:23:43] <raid5issue> even if it doesn't show anything
for mdadm?
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1419[11:25:02] <raid5issue> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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1420[11:25:08] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Could be that you can
recover that, but I'd really take it offline until you have
replacements to work with.
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1421[11:25:42] <raid5issue> ok, I will only attach sda and a
healthy disk to try to use ddrescue
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1423[11:26:19] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Do you have spare disks
ready?
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1424[11:26:40] <raid5issue> yes I bought one disk thinking that
only 1 disk failed...
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1425[11:26:54] <raid5issue> and the SO is installed on a
separated disk, it's not in the raid
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1426[11:27:05] <petn-randall> raid5issue: SO?
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1427[11:27:18] <petn-randall> Oh, probably OS.
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1429[11:27:29] <raid5issue> OS yes, sorry I thought in spanish
haha
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1432[11:28:50] <petn-randall> !tell gry -about debian-next
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1433[11:29:03] <petn-randall> gry: check dpkg's msg
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1434[11:29:29] <gry> ok
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1438[11:31:45] <gry> petn-randall, thanks for picking that up, i
again forget which laptop is running which version; i'll
probably put it in the wallpaper or something; cheers
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1566[12:34:46] <DammitJim> what do you guys think is the fastest
way to perform backups to an external drive (that I can rotate)?
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1568[12:35:08] <DammitJim> I have some USB3 drives, but they
still only do 50MBps
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1571[12:35:56] <Ke> why do you care about the speed?
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1574[12:36:25] <DammitJim> because when you are doing a full
backup to a 3TB drive, it takes just too long
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1575[12:36:38] <Ke> are you also positive it's working as
USB-3 device
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1576[12:36:39] <DammitJim> let me look at my statistics (maybe I
have something wrong)
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1577[12:36:40] <OpenTokix> DammitJim: Get a faster drive and
connect it via eSata
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1582[12:38:22] <Ke> [332118.409020] usb 9-2.3.2: new SuperSpeed
USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
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1583[12:38:29] <Ke> you should see something like that
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1586[12:38:39] <Ke> SuperSpeed and (13:38:29) < Ke> you
should see something like that
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1587[12:38:45] <Ke> gah
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1588[12:38:51] <Ke> SuperSpeed and xhci_hcd
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1589[12:39:04] <petn-randall> DammitJim: Is it only doing 50MB/s
on sequential writes? That is rather slow. Look up the specs for the
drive.
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1590[12:39:26] <petn-randall> DammitJim: For good desktop drives
and beyond you should see > 100 MB/s on sequential writes.
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1598[12:45:22] <DammitJim> I know! petn-randall that's why I
am reviewing
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1600[12:45:54] <DammitJim> crap, maybe I have network issues, but
I doubt it *sigh*... time to peel the onion
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1606[12:47:33] <MaBunny> hello guys
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1610[12:47:57] <MaBunny> how do i setup my computer to use a tor
proxy when i need it??
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1615[12:48:54] <petn-randall> DammitJim: run 'atop' to
get a quick overview what the bottleneck is.
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1616[12:49:11] <MaBunny> i can suppose tht i need to go to gnome
settings and do it but
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1617[12:49:24] <petn-randall> MaBunny: How far did you get with
your own research?
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1618[12:49:31] <MaBunny> what hostname and other things should i
give...if somebody
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1621[12:50:00] <MaBunny> i think the hostname should be 127.0.0.1
and port should be 9050,but idk
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1624[12:50:59] <MaBunny> petn-randall, ??
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1625[12:51:48] <petn-randall> MaBunny: I'm sure you did your
own research before asking here. How far did you get there? At what
part did you get stuck?
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1626[12:52:06] <MaBunny> well,tht was above...
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1627[12:52:36] <MaBunny> wait
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1629[12:53:03] <MaBunny>
replaced-url
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1631[12:53:17] <MaBunny> this is the webpage i dug up
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1632[12:53:22] <TomTomTosch> D:
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1634[12:53:39] <MaBunny> no...i hav no intention to do tht
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1635[12:53:43] <TomTomTosch> routing all your traffic through tor
is a terrible idea. just download the browser bundle.
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1636[12:54:21] <MaBunny> TomTomTosch, i want my torrent files to
get downloaded...my isp is blocking all torrent data and links
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1637[12:55:26] <TomTomTosch> using tor for torrenting is what we
call "a dick move" in my culture.
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1638[12:55:36] <MaBunny> ok
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1639[12:55:39] <TomTomTosch> ^^
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1640[12:56:04] <MaBunny> but in our culture everyone does
torrents...its quite common
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1641[12:56:07] <MaBunny> ^_^
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1645[12:56:27] <TomTomTosch> THROUGH TOR. i don't care if
you torrent.
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1647[12:56:36] <MaBunny> why
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1649[12:57:05] <TomTomTosch> because tor has limited capacity and
you would make it a worse experience for everyone if you used it
like that.
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1650[12:57:25] <fguide> MaBunny: you'd better be considering
a VPN for torrenting
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1651[12:57:32] <TomTomTosch> ^ that.
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1652[12:57:34] <fguide> TOR is indeed a very bad idea
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1653[12:57:40] <MaBunny> ok
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1654[12:57:56] <fguide> MaBunny: just browse webpages using tor
and you'll know why
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1656[12:58:05] <MaBunny> yeah i kno
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1657[12:58:14] <MaBunny> idk
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1661[13:00:10] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've just migrated to
Jessie and rebooted the system. However, after the reboot, VLANs
which were configured on my eth0 interface, no longer work. If I do
'ifup vlanXXX', I get some strange error: e.g. eth0 does
not exist, unable to create vlan799. However, eth0 does in fact
exist and it is usable... What's the problem then?
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1664[13:00:34] <darkdna> hey guys
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1665[13:00:49] <darkdna> anyone knows how to show user activity
on my server?
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1666[13:00:52] <hid3> Prior to the upgrade/reboot, it worked
fine...
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1667[13:00:54] <darkdna> i want to see what he's doing
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1668[13:01:13] <MaBunny> ok which channel has guides to choose on
VPNs in freenode?? ##networking?
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1676[13:03:55] <fguide> MaBunny: I believe so, perhaps ##vpn
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1677[13:04:02] <MaBunny> yeah
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1680[13:04:16] <MaBunny> checking out some articles on web now
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1683[13:05:08] <darkdna> fguide: any idea my friend about how to
check a user's activity on my server ?
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1684[13:05:22] <darkdna> i want to actually see it live, is there
a way to do that
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1685[13:05:23] <darkdna> ?
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1687[13:06:44] <petn-randall> darkdna: Can you be more specific?
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1688[13:06:49] <darkdna> ok
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1690[13:07:12] <fguide> darkdna: psacct
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1691[13:07:14] <darkdna> user pts/0 chomsky.bgf Thu10 25:37m
1:14m 0.00s sshd: user [priv]
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1692[13:07:14] <darkdna> user pts/4 173.50.48.118 12:59 1.00s
0.06s 0.01s sshd: user [priv]
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1693[13:07:27] <fguide> but I have not used it, just saw someone
recommending it already here
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1694[13:07:28] <darkdna> bash: psacct: command not found
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1695[13:07:43] <darkdna> i want to see what pts/4 is doing
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1696[13:07:57] <fguide> yeah, that's not default package
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1701[13:08:27] <petn-randall> darkdna: 'apt install
apt-file; apt-file search psacct'
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1703[13:08:56] <tripkin> Hey all, quick question (hopefully!) - I
am running Debian Jessie 8.6 with Gnome 3.14.1 and would like to
change the default screenshot save directory to
/home/user/Pictures/screenshots. Dconf editor is not changing this.
What am I missing or is this impossible?
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1706[13:09:14] <darkdna> petn-randall thanks bro its installed
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1708[13:10:05] <petn-randall> darkdna: See /topic, don't
query people unasked.
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1710[13:10:48] <OerHeks> tripkin, change it in org > gnome
> gnome-screenshot, logout and login again?
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1711[13:11:13] <tripkin> OerHeks, I will try it again. brb
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1713[13:11:26] <darkdna> sorry just wanted to personally say
thanks.
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1715[13:12:05] <darkdna> petn-randall: so i instlled it and it
told me to first do "apt-file update" so i did
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1717[13:12:34] <darkdna> but i am trying to type: psacct now and
its tellimg me bash: psacct: command not found
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1720[13:12:57] <fguide> darkdna: perhaps it requires root, so try
sudo psacct
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1721[13:13:17] <fguide> assuming you're properly granted
sudo access
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1722[13:13:19] <darkdna> root@1010CC-XEON:/home/user# sudo psacct
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1723[13:13:19] <darkdna> bash: sudo: command not found
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1725[13:14:19] <fguide> darkdna: what does /etc/init.d/psacct
status display?
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1726[13:15:16] <darkdna> bash: /etc/init.d/psacct: No such file
or directory
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1727[13:15:19] <TomTomTosch> you don't need to run sudo if
you already are root. if you want to have it for your normal user,
install sudo and add that user to the sudo group.
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1730[13:15:53] <fguide> so it looks like it's not really
installed
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1731[13:16:31] <darkdna> apt-file is already the newest version.
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1732[13:16:31] <darkdna> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
remove and 18 not upgraded.
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1733[13:16:31] <darkdna> sosreport:
/usr/share/sosreport/sos/plugins/psacct.py
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1736[13:18:05] <TomTomTosch> do you mean acct not psacct?
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1738[13:18:21] <TomTomTosch> ,i acct
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1739[13:18:22] <judd> Package acct (admin, optional) in
jessie/amd64: The GNU Accounting utilities for process and login
accounting. Version: 6.5.5-2.1; Size: 100.9k; Installed: 330k;
Homepage:
replaced-url
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1740[13:18:38] <fguide> ,i psacct
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1741[13:18:39] <judd> No package named 'psacct' was
found in jessie/amd64.
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1742[13:18:47] <fguide> that explains it then
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1744[13:18:51] <darkdna> lol
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1745[13:19:06] <darkdna> so is there a package for watching
PTS's on my box ?
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1746[13:19:09] <fguide> but I really recall it by the psacct name
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1749[13:19:35] <da3m0n22> any comments please?
replaced-url
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1750[13:20:17] <darkdna> TomTomTosch any idea about how to watch
other users activity live on my box ?
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1752[13:21:08] <TomTomTosch> noe. ^^
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1754[13:22:06] <nullbyte_> someone good with grub?
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1757[13:23:55] <tripkin> OerHeks, so I tried it as /home...
file:///home... and it continues to save screenshots into
/home/user/. In the keyboard settings-shortcuts-screenshots area, it
says "Save a screenshot to <user>", and that never
changes, either.
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1758[13:24:04] <tripkin> Any ideas on what I have done wrong?
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1759[13:24:22] <tripkin> This is a vanilla install of Debian, no
3rd party packages installed.
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1761[13:25:11] <tripkin> (Not really vanilla, anymore, but you
get the idea - only packages from the Debian repositories)
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1762[13:27:06] <fguide> tripkin: I would check permissions on the
/home direcotry
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1763[13:27:27] <fguide> it may be failing to write something
there and then reverting settings back to the default
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1767[13:28:28] <tripkin> fguide, root owns home with 755 and I
own jmitchell with 755
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1769[13:29:10] <fguide> ok not permission then
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1771[13:29:44] <tripkin> Yeah. This has been bugging me for a
while now.
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1772[13:29:53] <tripkin> Kind of annoying.
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1773[13:29:59] <tripkin> Really messy...
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1776[13:30:42] <fguide> gsettings set org.gnome.gnome-screenshot
auto-save-directory "file:///PATH"
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1777[13:31:14] <fguide> I just searched it as I don't use
gnome, so I cannot really test
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1778[13:31:15] <tripkin> I will try it that way. What is the
difference between the cli command and the gui editor?
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1780[13:32:01] <TomTomTosch> they are just different interfaces
to the same thing.
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1782[13:32:20] <TomTomTosch> but the cli tool might actually give
useful output.
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1783[13:32:28] <fguide> yes, it just cuts the intermediate in
case something is messy on dconf
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1784[13:32:46] <tripkin> Ok.
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1788[13:33:22] <vjacob> jelly you the man!
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1789[13:33:28] <tripkin> I always assumed they were the same
thing - the gui being the front end to the app.
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1795[13:37:58] <jelly> vjacob: what, again? :-)
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1799[13:38:30] <hugleo> i remender that same message yesterday
too :D
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1800[13:39:07] <vjacob> you still the man.
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1801[13:39:14] <tripkin> fguide, so that did not change anything.
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1802[13:39:15] * vjacob salutes
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1804[13:39:52] <tripkin> I have also seen all the stuff on the
web - been reading it for months and have experienced no love in the
matter.
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1805[13:40:19] <fguide> tripkin: so it doesn't evven show up
changed on cli?
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1807[13:40:48] <tripkin> It shows the same thing.
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1808[13:41:07] <JyZyXEL> how can i remove a debian package
without having to remove its dependencies?
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1809[13:41:13] <tripkin> I am going to hassle the gnome guys, but
I am not going to hold my breath.
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1811[13:41:26] <nullbyte_> i am with ubuntu 16.10 grub2, i can
boot in GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="1024x768" only Ubuntu
(default) all another OS cannot be booted at this resolution, they
are boot in default/text a bigger ones, how can i made boot 1024x768
for all OSs in grub?
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1833[13:56:42] <Mazhive> hello guys have one slight problem with
my mail server.. my hostname looks like domain.com but when sending
emails it sends from user@server.domain.com my hostname is called
server
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1834[13:56:54] <Mazhive> using postfix
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1886[14:23:39] <themill> !spu
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1887[14:23:39] <dpkg> stable-proposed-updates is a repository
containing packages being prepared for the next <point
release>. While they have already been, your additional testing
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1889[14:23:58] <themill> ChrisH: ^^ you can install (and help
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1894[14:25:46] <themill> The packages will get copied into the
main repo along with things from jessie/updates at point release
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1914[14:36:33] <hugleo> the screen is stuck in /dev/sda2 clean
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1916[14:37:02] <hugleo> ctrl+F2 to open a other virtual term
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1917[14:37:12] <plasmoduck> lol
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1919[14:37:26] <Lostfile> some times my ubnutu install dose that
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1921[14:37:46] <Lostfile> but after wareds it boots
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1922[14:37:50] <hugleo> but I can access the server through ssh
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1923[14:37:55] <plasmoduck> hugleo: ctrl+alt+F*
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1925[14:38:38] <hugleo> plasmoduck: none of those keys worked
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1926[14:38:57] <hugleo> LostSoul: so I can try reboot to see what
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1934[14:43:49] <bllluruks> hi, has anyone got arduino IDE working
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1950[14:50:05] <TomTomTosch> bllluruks: describe your problem.
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1956[14:52:23] <TomTomTosch> you selected the correct one under
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1964[14:56:17] <TomTomTosch> why wine? debian has the arduino IDE
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1979[15:05:35] <vlt> bllluruks: Works fine here from the standard
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1980[15:05:48] <zykotick9> hugleo: you wrote "ctrl+F2"
you did mean "alt+F2" right? ctrl+alt+fX is only required
to switch to a virtual terminal when you are in Xorg. from VT->VT
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sound card, and i installed debian(the free version without non-free
drivers), and only HDMI output is supported, I have no sound, not
through headsets, nor through embedded speakers. Any idea how to
solve this? I also have another identical laptop that runs the non
free version of debian, and the sound works fine there, but I
don't know how to install the drivers on the first laptop.
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2015[15:18:19] <hugleo> zykotick9: tried that keys and
doesnt't work either. Notice the Caps lock and Scroll
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2020[15:20:06] <zykotick9> hugleo: well, best of luck.
personally, i think running testing (on a server especially) is a
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2025[15:22:15] <hugleo> zykotick9: I see that alt+left looks like
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2027[15:23:10] <zykotick9> hugleo: for testing support, you might
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2062[15:33:53] <Stiffler> not working
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2064[15:34:03] <Stiffler> i used apt-get purge --auto-remove
firefox-esr-l10n-gn .. but still esr is their
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2068[15:34:26] <jelly> Stiffler: that's not what I suggested
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2069[15:34:35] <Stiffler> btw i installed normal firefox sideby
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2071[15:35:01] <Stiffler> apt-get remove firefox-esr no package
found
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2072[15:35:08] <Stiffler> i tried that before
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2077[15:36:37] <jelly> Stiffler: then you should not have
firefox-esr from debian any more
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2079[15:37:00] <jelly> Stiffler: which debian release are you
using?
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2080[15:37:19] <Stiffler> stretch
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2081[15:37:51] <Stiffler> testing version of stretch
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2082[15:38:12] <jelly> !debian-next
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2083[15:38:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2087[15:38:29] <jelly> Stiffler: see if someone over there has a
clue
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2088[15:38:29] <Stiffler> ah
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2092[15:40:40] <Stiffler> ok.. how i register their i am getting
connection closed
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2093[15:40:47] <raid5issue> petn-randall: yes it was, but what
annoys me is that the cloned SDA says mdadm: No md superblock
detected on as well
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2094[15:41:42] <petn-randall> raid5issue: Are you sure
you're running RAID5 on the naked drives, and not on a
partition on the drive?
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2102[15:46:38] <raid5issue> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2111[15:51:10] <raid5issue> petn-randall: I guess those 4096b
that couldn't be recovered were at the beginning of the disk
and maybe that's the cause
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2114[15:51:29] <hugleo> Stiffler: apt-get install firefox-esr
&& apt-get remove firefox-esr worked with no problems in my
stretch. Maybe you haven't updated apt/sources.list database...
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2115[15:51:57] <Stiffler> i tried .. didnt worked with mne
package not found..
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2129[15:55:58] <hugleo> Stiffler: Maybe you try use another
mirror...
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2130[15:56:12] <hugleo> apt-cache policy firefox-esr | grep
Candidate
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2131[15:56:14] <hugleo> Candidate: 45.4.0esr-2
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2132[15:56:49] <Stiffler> same thing shown
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2134[15:57:34] <Stiffler> wow werid
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2135[15:57:40] <Stiffler> now it took the command
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2136[15:57:44] <Stiffler> o.o
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2139[15:58:06] <Stiffler> ty for help guys
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2140[15:58:11] <watmm> Hey
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2145[15:59:02] <watmm> wondering how to find the size of the
apt's cache, apt-cache stats shows "Total space accounted
for: 15.0 M" but 9i don't see an indication of the total
size
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2150[16:01:21] <jelly> watmm: du /var/cache/apt
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2158[16:04:24] <watmm> heh
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2159[16:04:34] <watmm> Hopefully that's related to
apt-get[5246]: segfault at ffffffffffffffff ip 00007f642e06056a sp
00007ffc80f57720 error 5 in
libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7f642e009000+168000]
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2180[16:11:53] <Somelauw> Why does maven have so many
dependencies including a dependency on ant, isn't maven
supposed to replace ant?
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2206[16:24:08] <DammitJim> my var logical volume is almost full
and it's only 3GB. I have another logical volume that is 15GB
and only using 1GB. Should I be adding another hard drive to give
var more space or should I reallocate space from the other logical
volume that has 14GB free and I doubt we'll need that much
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2219[16:28:04] <bareng3> Does anybody know why I can't
apt-get install lilypond in stretch? I get "Package lilypond is
not available, but is referred to by another package."
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2226[16:31:16] <missmbob> because it's not in stretch
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2228[16:31:26] <Somelauw> Why does installing maven require such
an inside amount of packages?
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2229[16:31:27] <missmbob> !why is lilypond not in testing
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2230[16:31:27] <dpkg> lilypond is not in testing for the reasons
listed in
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2237[16:35:01] <bareng3> thank you missmbob!
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2246[16:39:07] <petn-randall> Somelauw: Maybe that's an
upstream requirement. Have you checked there yet?
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2250[16:40:20] <Somelauw> petn-randall: it seems to be mostly
optional plugins that maven installs itself anyway if they are
missing
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2251[16:40:38] <Somelauw> ant is partly a package manager itself
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2252[16:40:42] <Somelauw> eh maven
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2256[16:41:30] <petn-randall> Somelauw: I don't see ant
anywhere in the dependencies:
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2258[16:42:58] <Somelauw> petn-randall: it might be indirect, my
package manager tries to install it anyway
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2261[16:43:31] <petn-randall> Somelauw: Probably some recommends
somewhere up the path?
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2266[16:45:02] <petn-randall> Somelauw: Do you get the same
output when running with --no-install-recommends?
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2267[16:45:04] <k_sze> I need help debugging why I can't
unmount or rename a zfs dataset.
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2270[16:45:15] <Somelauw> petn-randall: with
--no-install-recommends it doesn't install ant, but it's
still big
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2271[16:45:28] <k_sze> I have checked with `sudo lsof +D`, but it
doesn't show any open file.
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2272[16:45:29] * petn-randall shrugs.
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2275[16:45:35] <petn-randall> Somelauw: You low on disk space?
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2276[16:46:08] <Somelauw>
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2296[16:52:48] <k_sze> How do I check if a directory is being
shared over samba?
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2304[16:53:47] <k_sze> Actually, never mind samba, I don't
have samba on this server.
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2305[16:53:53] <k_sze> Something is holding my zfs dataset.
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2307[16:54:38] <petn-randall> Somelauw: Java applications take up
lots of disk space, more news at 11 ;)
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2313[16:56:03] <vp17r00t> hi
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2314[16:56:09] <vp17r00t> hi all
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2315[16:56:41] <vp17r00t> I'm not sure this is the best
channel for this, but does anyone have experience dealing with
polymorphic viruses on debian machine
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2316[16:56:54] <petn-randall> vp17r00t: Are you affected by one?
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2319[16:57:58] <vp17r00t> yes. so to speak. the file keeps
changing names and moving to different diretories
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2322[16:58:31] <Somelauw> petn-randall: i fear so :-(
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2324[16:58:48] <imMute> vp17r00t: nuke it from orbit; restore
from backups.
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2327[16:59:08] <bibble> yes, can never be sure otherwise
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2328[16:59:13] <vp17r00t> lol, iim actually just trying to pull a
hash from it, it's a lab exercise
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2330[16:59:23] <bibble> :D
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2331[16:59:26] <vp17r00t> i don't care about the box.
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2332[16:59:37] <johanskizo> why gnome vidio player can't
play mp4?
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2335[16:59:49] <vp17r00t> if it was my pc i would've nuked
it by now, trust me :P
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2336[17:00:00] <johanskizo> whyyyy??
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2338[17:01:14] <bibble> whats the player called and video test
file johanskizo ?
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2340[17:01:43] <bibble> vlc seems to, straight from the repos
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2343[17:02:15] <johanskizo> i just want the default player :(
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2344[17:02:44] <johanskizo> i don't want vlc :(
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2345[17:02:52] <johanskizo> can i play mp4?
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2348[17:03:23] <bibble> vp17r00t: are you after intrusion
detection stuff, watching files for changes etc ?
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2350[17:03:47] <vp17r00t> bibble, yeah
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2352[17:04:31] <vp17r00t> I'm supposed to get a hash, but
can't seem to find the executable file
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2356[17:05:10] <vp17r00t> i can see the file constantly changing
using top...if you have any ideas, feel free to send me a pm
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2359[17:05:32] <bibble> sounds too pro :)
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2361[17:06:22] <TomTomTosch> johanskizo: does apt-get install
gstreamer0.10-plugins-{bad,base,good,ugly} change anything?
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2366[17:06:49] <vp17r00t> no linux sysadmins here?
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2367[17:06:52] <petn-randall> vp17r00t: Take the machine offline
hard, boot from a trusted medium.
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2369[17:07:00] <bibble> vp17r00t: inodes maybe
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2370[17:07:07] <vp17r00t> inodes?
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2371[17:07:12] <petn-randall> vp17r00t: Are you trying to make us
do your homework assignment?
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2373[17:07:22] <vp17r00t> no I'm not. I'm looking for
inspiration.
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2374[17:07:27] <bibble> true fileid
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2375[17:07:38] <vp17r00t> someone to point me in the right
direction
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2377[17:08:19] <vp17r00t> hm...
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2381[17:08:27] <bibble> vp17r00t:
replaced-url
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2382[17:08:30] <petn-randall> vp17r00t: There's no point in
finding malware from within an infected machine. Take it offline
hard (pull the plug), and boot from a trusted medium.
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2383[17:08:43] <petn-randall> bibble: I don't think this is
helping.
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2386[17:08:54] <vp17r00t> o ok, hm it is
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2389[17:09:22] <bibble> ah. but it's a project. for some
reason he needs to monitor the changing file ?
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2390[17:09:30] <petn-randall> vp17r00t: Make sure that you
don't shut it down, as the shutdown scripts might be
manipulated to remove any traces.
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2391[17:09:43] <vp17r00t> i do know about the file system. see
the thing is, i think i found the executable but can't extract
a hash, i don't have root. i don't think I'm supposed
to though
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2393[17:09:55] <vp17r00t> got to be another way I'm not
thinking of...ive been at it for days
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2394[17:10:05] <petn-randall> vp17r00t: That sounds _TOO_ much
like homework assignment to me.
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2395[17:10:18] <bibble> :)
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2398[17:10:52] <vp17r00t> lol :) yes, too much... ill look into
true fileid
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2417[17:21:43] <boxrick1> Guys I am having an odd DHCPd issue, I
have traffic being relayed from another subnet by a switch
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2420[17:22:07] <boxrick1> And my DHCP server is getting it and
saying: DHCPDISCOVER from MAC ia eth0: network XXXXX: no free leases
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2421[17:22:18] <boxrick1> Yet it is in as a static DHCP lease
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2423[17:24:09] <kion> did Debian just switched back from avconv
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2426[17:24:32] <ChrisH> boxrick1: sounds like your dhcp config
does not have free leases for the network xxx
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2429[17:25:22] <boxrick1> I am using fixed-address so it
doesn't need a free lease
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2430[17:25:28] <boxrick1> It has a specific one assigned to it
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2434[17:26:16] <ChrisH> boxrick1: but you need a subnet
definition
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2436[17:27:22] <boxrick1> Let me show what I have
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2437[17:27:26] <boxrick1> I have all that
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2444[17:29:03] <boxrick1>
replaced-url
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2445[17:29:28] <boxrick1> So the "host1" is in another
subnet, and the traffic is being relayed by the switch
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2448[17:29:43] <boxrick1> eth0 lives on the 172.29.89 subnet
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2451[17:30:29] <boxrick1> aa:aa obviously isn't the real MAC
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2452[17:30:34] <boxrick1> But that is correct
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2457[17:31:32] <kgron> boxrick1, phew good. i thought you pwned
my server.
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2474[17:33:52] <ChrisH> boxrick1: restart dhcp and check the
logs... or check the logs. dhcp is very verbose on what he found and
thinks ge understood.
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2475[17:35:06] <boxrick1> But that is correctZZYea basically logs
saying more specifically: Nov 11 16:32:57 dhcpd dhcpd[2265]:
DHCPDISCOVER from aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa via eth0: network
172.29.89.128/25: no free leases
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2477[17:35:16] <boxrick1> Ack wrong window
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2478[17:35:28] <boxrick1> You get the point anyway
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2479[17:36:02] <ChrisH> boxrick1: 172.29.89.128/25 !=
255.255.255.192 If my cidr calculator is correct
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2485[17:38:32] <johanskizo> > TomTomTosch nothing changes
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2487[17:39:02] <boxrick1> ChrisH only the 172.29.64 address is
255.255.255.192
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2489[17:40:00] <ChrisH> boxrick1: network 172.29.89.128/25 your
network is defined as /26 25 != 26
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2521[17:49:20] <boxrick1> I think in this case its just a slight
typo and not related to this particular problem, shifting all the 89
to a /24 and 255.255.255.0 makes no difference.
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2527[17:51:28] <ChrisH> boxrick1: AFAIK this is relevant. as you
define networks which do not match what your client requests...
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2529[17:51:55] <boxrick1> So I have a /24 which the DHCP server
is sat in and a different subnet which the request is coming from
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2531[17:52:16] <boxrick1> I fixed the above problem so now they
all sit nicely
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2532[17:52:21] <boxrick1> And it generates the same error
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2534[17:52:38] <boxrick1> So I am wondering in this case the way
the packet is being relayed here is causing a problem
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2539[17:54:11] <ChrisH> your line 19 defines a /26 error and your
client als for /25 As DHCP uses broadcasts that matters, as far as
my understanding of DHCP increased the past 15 years
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2540[17:55:02] <boxrick1> Let me paste the exact config now
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2542[17:55:06] <boxrick1> and Exact error
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2557[17:58:18] <boxrick1>
replaced-url
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2560[17:59:11] <boxrick1> Hopefully confirms that the netmask
isn't an issue
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2564[18:00:53] <ChrisH> boxrick1: That looks completely
different! You DHCP relay does it incorrect. aa:aa is asking for an
IP in 172.29.89.0/24 and you defined it in 172.29.64.26 And subnet
172.29.89.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 has no range definition. Works as
configured.
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2568[18:01:34] <boxrick1> So why is aa:aa asking for an IP within
that subnet?
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2569[18:01:54] <boxrick1> Simply because eth0 exists in that
world?
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2571[18:02:21] <boxrick1> Since it is being relayed from the
172.29.64.0 network
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2572[18:02:26] <boxrick1> So it exists in a different world
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2575[18:02:39] <ChrisH> boxrick1: you mentioned a DHCP replay and
I assume the relay does a weird forward.
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2576[18:02:41] <boxrick1> Its coming from a switch by unicast
rather than the usual broadcast on the same subnet
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2577[18:03:57] <ChrisH> boxrick1: I know. but the forwarder/relay
must keep the correct information
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2589[18:07:27] <boxrick1> So is there any change I can make to my
DHCP config to make it work so it gets an address from the 64 range
?
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2600[18:11:22] <ChrisH> boxrick1: I need to leave now. You dhcpd
config looks OK. I would run tcpdump and capture a dhcp request and
check it using wireshark. From my memory the entry should look
different for an dhcp-relayed request. This looks like a request
received via broadcast
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2604[18:11:42] <boxrick1> Ok, cheers for the help anyway
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2607[18:11:50] <DammitJim> is there a way to say: lvextend
/dev/vg/home <final total size>
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2608[18:11:59] <DammitJim> instead of -L +<how much to add>
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2609[18:12:08] <ChrisH> DammitJim: without + :)
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2611[18:12:15] <DammitJim> or -l +%
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2612[18:12:18] <DammitJim> that's it, ChrisH ?
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2614[18:12:21] <DammitJim> whoa
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2641[18:20:28] <ChrisH> DammitJim: man lvextend: With the + sign
the value is added to the actual size of the logical volume and
without it, the value is taken as an absolute one. #that + and the
option to specify sizes in GB,MB,... is a Linux special. In HP/UX
LVm you needed different values for the LV and the filesystem.
Cannot remember which.
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2646[18:21:42] <DammitJim> yeah, I did it
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2647[18:21:54] <DammitJim> I didn't know that the + was just
an option vs it being required
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2687[18:45:00] <MaBunny> how do i start a terminal session with
my configured bash_profile?
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2688[18:45:01] <LiENUS> is there a squid 3.5 in jessie backports
im just missing or is there no such luck with that?
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2703[18:52:16] <zuiss1> anyone know if gparted can do encryption
the way gnome disk utility can
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2704[18:52:35] <missmbob> LiENUS: it's not in backports
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2706[18:53:00] <TomTomTosch> MaBunny: that's not what
bash_profile is for. read the INVOCATION section of man bash
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2708[18:53:36] <LiENUS> bummer :/
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2714[18:56:36] <missmbob> ,checkbackport squid3
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2715[18:56:44] <crayon> kunwon1,
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2716[18:57:54] <judd> Backporting package squid3 in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libecap3-dev (>= 1.0.1-2).
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2717[18:57:56] <missmbob> ,checkbackport libecap3-dev
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2718[18:57:57] <judd> Backporting package libecap3-dev in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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2720[18:58:00] <crayon> kunwon1, i would like to discuss debian
with you
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2724[18:58:10] <missmbob> LiENUS: you can do it yourself ^
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2729[18:58:51] <LiENUS> missmbob, i barely am able to handle the
time to recompile squid with ssl for my own uses let alone deal with
backporting :/
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2809[19:44:43] <zuiss1> does using debian stable and having a
security team supporting it benefit mainly debian on internet facing
servers, or does it benefit personal computers like laptops too?
wondering how much more secure someone would be using stable vs
testing
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2813[19:45:08] <zuiss1> wondering about security, not stability
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2815[19:46:31] <awal1> zuiss1: stable is suitable for servers and
home use if security and stability are important for you
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2819[19:47:20] <Polarina> zuiss1, security updates are typically
not immediately available in testing, they slowly get promoted from
sid the same way other updates do.
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2828[19:52:43] <zuiss1> is it actually a danger to not have those
immediate security updates if you are just on a laptop vs running a
server though?
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2830[19:52:57] <zuiss1> how important is that added security that
you lose by using testing for a home user
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2832[19:53:26] <awal1> zuiss1: if you want newest software,
backports (for stable) are there. If you want a bleeding edge stuff,
you may want to go with unstable branch for home use
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2834[19:54:15] <awal1> agian, debian recommends STABLE branch for
servers and home use if security is important for you
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2835[19:54:19] <awal1> again ^
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2844[19:56:07] <zuiss1> so if i wanted newer software while still
getting support from a security team, would ubuntu be a better
choice?
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2848[19:56:38] <zuiss1> sounds more secure than debian testing,
while still giving newer software
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2870[20:06:14] <Dreaman> how to install new kernel
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2871[20:06:21] <Dreaman> stable
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2874[20:07:19] <TomTomTosch> ,kernels
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2875[20:07:20] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.8.0-1-686-pae (4.8.5-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.8-1);
jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports:
3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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2877[20:08:02] <TomTomTosch> Dreaman: kernel 4.7 from backports
is the easiest way. ^
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2879[20:08:17] <Dreaman> i use sid
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2880[20:08:22] <Dreaman> and 4.7
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2881[20:08:25] <TomTomTosch> you said stable.
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2884[20:08:40] <TomTomTosch> sid us the debian unstable branch.
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2885[20:08:41] <Dreaman> stable kernel ia 4.8.7
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2887[20:08:50] <Dreaman> is
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2890[20:09:30] <TomTomTosch> !debian-next
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2891[20:09:30] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2892[20:09:41] <TomTomTosch> i'm sure they will understand
you better ^^
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2893[20:09:45] <awal1> Dreaman: have you heard about
experimental?
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2894[20:10:31] <Dreaman> yes
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2895[20:10:52] <TomTomTosch> oh, you mean the kernel from
kernel.org. debian doesn't have 4.8.7 packaged yet, you will
have to build it yourself.
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2899[20:11:21] <Dreaman> ok
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2911[20:13:49] <stack> hi, is that possible to disable apt from
caching deb files?
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2914[20:14:16] <stack> I found something like DPkg::Post-Invoke
{"/bin/rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb || true";}; but
I'm not sure it's the best option
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2916[20:14:47] <towo`> if you use apt instead og apt-get, no debs
will be cached
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2917[20:14:55] <towo`> s/og/of
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2921[20:16:30] <korhojoa_> hey guys
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2922[20:17:09] <stack> towo`: I don't usually do that
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2923[20:17:25] <towo`> what?
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2924[20:17:33] <stack> using apt instead of apt-get
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2925[20:17:44] <towo`> then use it
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2926[20:17:48] <korhojoa_> my gnome-terminal won't start,
exited with status 8.
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2927[20:17:50] <towo`> and no debs are cached
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2928[20:17:56] <towo`> that's what you want
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2929[20:18:00] <stack> I can't assure that some other tools
doesn't
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2932[20:18:36] <towo`> [20:13:49] <stack> hi, is that
possible to disable apt from caching deb files?
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2933[20:18:47] <stack> I can't assure that some other tools
don't use apt-get instead of apt
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2934[20:18:59] <stack> for example: salt
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2935[20:19:05] <towo`> apt-get command foo = caching debs, apt
command foo = it doesn't
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2940[20:19:56] <korhojoa_> if you don't like cached debs,
why not run apt-get clean afterwards?
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2942[20:20:46] <Dreaman> !wifi
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2943[20:20:46] <dpkg> Support for your wireless LAN device is
dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask
me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>;
Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel:
<intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>;
Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI:
<acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See
also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>.
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2946[20:21:17] <stack> korhojoa_: that's not what I asked
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2950[20:23:53] <korhojoa_> stack: I'm literate, this was an
alternative.
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2951[20:24:08] <stack> no it isn't
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2976[20:31:53] <qqx> stack: From the latest entry in the NEWS
file for apt: To enable the behavior for other tools, you can set
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2977[20:31:53] <qqx> "APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages" to
false.
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2978[20:32:13] <stack> qqx: uh thanks!
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2999[20:42:54] <jmd> There's a speech synthesis package
somewhere which has options for different accents. Can anyone
remember what it's called?
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3000[20:43:11] <GNU\colossus> espeak maybe?
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3001[20:43:19] <GNU\colossus> I know it has language-specific
voices
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3065[21:08:04] <holgersson> Hello everyone! I’m running an
stretch amd64 container and added the experimental repo for
tinc-1.1. However, apt-get complains about missing libssl1.1. Any
idea how to fix that? Is the dep broken.
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3066[21:08:11] <holgersson> s/\./\?/
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3068[21:08:34] <prussian> uh
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3071[21:09:10] <prussian> you sure you addede the appropriate
repo? if you're getting dep or version issues...
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3073[21:09:53] <holgersson> “tinc : Depends: libssl1.1
(>= 1.1.0~pre5) but it is not installable“ with “apt
-t experimental install tinc“
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3075[21:10:15] <greycat> We don't support experimental here.
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3078[21:10:46] <holgersson> greycat: OK, is there some other
debian channel for that?
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3079[21:10:47] <zmitya> hi Gents.. Thunderbird - Enigmail does
not support gpg 1.x anymore. I do have gnupg2 installed hovewer
Enigmail still complains about 1.x ...
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3080[21:11:04] <zmitya> how can I install gnupg2
"officially" to make enigmail happy ?
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3081[21:11:19] <zmitya> or is it an enigmail issue /
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3082[21:11:20] <zmitya> ?
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3084[21:11:26] <greycat> I don't even know if debian-next
supports experimental.
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3085[21:11:33] <prussian> zmitya: you don't have gpg2 in
your path?
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3086[21:11:37] <prussian> weird
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3087[21:11:46] <zmitya> prussian: it is next to gpg
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3088[21:11:49] <zmitya> they are in /usr/bin
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3089[21:12:07] <prussian> well fi you have it..
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3090[21:12:12] <holgersson> greycat: So it’s better to
build the packages myself then fetch it from experimental?
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3091[21:12:14] <TomTomTosch> well, since he's running
stretch,
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3092[21:12:18] <TomTomTosch> !debian-next
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3093[21:12:18] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3094[21:12:25] <prussian> in enigmail settings it gives you an
option to set the gpg binary
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3096[21:12:54] <prussian> the enigmail dropdown, preferences,
first little textbox.
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3097[21:13:15] <holgersson> TomTomTosch, greycat: Thanks and
sorry for disturbing here ;)
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3098[21:13:46] <TomTomTosch> holgersson: no problem at all. good
luck with your issue.
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3099[21:13:51] <zmitya> prussian: hm.. let me check..
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3100[21:13:53] <holgersson> TomTomTosch: Thanks
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3103[21:14:24] <prussian> sure. it will tell you if it found it.
if it didn't just override it to the full path of your gpg2
binary
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3106[21:15:06] <zmitya> prussian: it could not find it for some
reason.. I have just browsed gpg2 to him and now it works !!
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3107[21:15:09] <zmitya> thanks..
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3108[21:15:20] <prussian> cool
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3200[22:00:38] <algun> i'm switching totem full screen off
and on
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3204[22:01:03] <algun> and i'm seeing screen caps of
previous activities
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3207[22:01:26] <algun> my question is wth
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3210[22:01:35] <prussian> ???
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3211[22:02:14] <prussian> Xorg might have some residual crap in
its framebuffer. just redraw it
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3216[22:02:51] <algun> prussian: but there are many images in
there from different points in time
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3217[22:03:26] <prussian> I mean... ok. I can't really help
you. it's a Xorg thing. Unless I'm not understanding your
problem
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3220[22:04:11] <algun> i'm just trying to understand how
this could happen
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3221[22:04:46] <algun> allocating same points in memory maybe?
but whose coding allowed this to reach the screen?
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3226[22:06:03] <prussian> I don't know.
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3271[22:30:29] <voot> I have a usb wireless adapter that I
believe is supported by the rt2800usb kernel module. I added the
vendor and product alias in modules.alias, but the device is still
not being listed with iwconfig. What am I doing incorrectly?
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3333[23:01:04] <buu> So why does upgrading from
stable->unstable want to remove perl-modules?
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3334[23:02:57] <towo`> if you have to ask, don't do that
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3338[23:03:44] <towo`> and btw, what makes you think, upgrading
from stable to unstable should work?
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