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1[00:01:14] <nvz> you're not giving tecnical questions. I've only been able to guess you're using something I never heard of called simple-scan when we've been talking about xsane, and that you may have some sort of HP all-in-one with hplip installed
2[00:01:26] <jmcnaught> user1_: 'drivers are installed.' ← which drivers, from where?
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4[00:01:42] <user1_> hplip for exaple, or samsung drivers from their site
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6[00:01:53] <user1_> or stock for cannon
7[00:02:03] <user1_> dont get defensive, nvz
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10[00:02:37] <nvz> I'm not getting defensive I'm pointing out to you that you're not making any sense.. nobody would use canon or samsung anything for an HP printer, and you have not said what printer you have
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12[00:02:43] <peromax> Hi, I have a apt-get problem on my Jessie server. It gets stuck on this part "Connecting to cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org (2a04:4e42:8::204)". I need to force ipv4 to use apt-get. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing a problem?
13[00:02:49] <user1_> i am making sense
14[00:03:03] <user1_> i have three printers using the right drivers.
15[00:03:10] <user1_> hp works with scanner, the other two dont
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18[00:05:30] <jolt> peromax: Only for apt? echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4
19[00:06:06] <jolt> peromax: but the problem you have is that you got an IPv6 address assigned, but the IPv6 routing isn't working
20[00:08:00] <peromax> ok, thanks jolt
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30[00:17:20] <dontknow> i am using debian stretch with default kde. it has integrated updater (it warns you when there is an update.) last day i didn't install updates and it didn't appear in tomorrow. is it installing automatically after some time?
31[00:17:50] <jmcnaught> dontknow: look in /var/log/apt/history.log to see what happened
32[00:20:30] <dontknow> hmm it looks like it installed it "2017-08-05 13:17:30" but i don't remember whether i installed it or not
33[00:21:20] <jmcnaught> dontknow: what is on the Requested-By: line?
34[00:22:24] <jmcnaught> dontknow: also check if you have unattended-upgrades installed
35[00:22:27] <dontknow> jmcnaught, it only says "commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade"
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38[00:23:08] <jmcnaught> dontknow: you can remove that package if you don't want that feature. As always when removing a package, check carefully what other packages it wants to remove (if any)
39[00:23:30] <dontknow> jmcnaught, what does it mean? i am ok with upgrades
40[00:23:52] <dontknow> what is unattended upgrade?
41[00:24:05] <jmcnaught> dontknow: 'apt-cache show unattended-upgrades'
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43[00:24:52] <mandeep> is there a debian patch for transparent gnome-terminals?
44[00:25:35] <dontknow> i see. so installs automatically
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46[00:26:01] <jmcnaught> mandeep: no
47[00:26:27] <mandeep> jmcnaught: thanks
48[00:26:54] <jmcnaught> mandeep: replaced-url
49[00:27:14] <mandeep> i see
50[00:27:19] <jmcnaught> mandeep: however there are other terminal emulators that do have transparency. terminator is one.
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52[00:27:37] <mandeep> jmcnaught: yeah i think i'll try terminator
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64[00:34:03] <ghostman> hello
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83[00:50:30] <Yhhgghhh> Hi
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97[01:00:35] <ghostman> hey
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99[01:01:21] <Yhhgghhh> How r u
100[01:01:30] <ghostman> good thnks :) you
101[01:02:58] <Yhhgghhh> I'm looking to make friends
102[01:03:06] <ghostman> cool
103[01:03:15] <Yhhgghhh> A s l
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105[01:03:23] <ghostman> im new to irc so just palying about with it
106[01:03:45] <sypher> Yhhgghhh: Please be aware that this channel is for Debian GNU/Linux support, and is not a social channel. #debian-offtopic may be more appropriate.
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108[01:04:05] <Yhhgghhh> Thank you sypher
109[01:04:13] <Yhhgghhh> Ghost man may I msg u
110[01:04:19] <ghostman> sure
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124[01:12:11] <zophyx> awk rawks
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130[01:18:01] <johnkeates> and gawk awks
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157[01:47:46] <crucify_me> hi I have the directories and files colorized in xterm; debian jessie 8. some files began taking on the color that I have set for the directories, and the files lose their default green color. how can I reset these to behave properly?
158[01:48:00] <dutchfish> hi, after dist-upgrade to stable/strech apt-key list, still display jessie keys, is that correct?
159[01:48:16] <dutchfish> s/strech/stretch
160[01:48:27] <crucify_me> my .bashrc is here, replaced-url
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162[01:48:47] <petn-randall> crucify_me: "green" colour is usually set when that file has execute permissions.
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164[01:49:43] <crucify_me> thanks I have no permissions set, I think its just default. the directories should be in purple color petn-randall
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169[01:50:57] <crucify_me> petn-randall, I think the color settings in my .bashrc file have repeated somehow
170[01:51:12] <crucify_me> like they're listed multiple times.
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174[01:52:39] <mxh-> dutchfish: the old gpg keys are not removed, you can use apt-key del if you dont want the old ones for some reason
175[01:52:49] <mxh-> dutchfish: but the ones for stretch should be there too
176[01:53:24] <dutchfish> mxh-, the ones for stretch are there, allright. I was just wondering for the old keys.
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178[01:54:33] <dutchfish> mxh-, it popped up when i did a config compare with and upgraded system and a system from scratch.
179[01:55:02] <dutchfish> s/and/an
180[01:55:07] <mxh-> dutchfish: nah adding new keys does not remove old ones (it could be ones you added)
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183[01:57:00] <dutchfish> mxh-, well, here my output replaced-url
184[01:57:44] <dutchfish> (the upgraded system)
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186[01:59:33] <crucify_me> petn-randall, hi would you mind looking at the .bashrc file ^^ ?
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191[02:00:58] <mxh-> dutchfish: i think those are default, i got wheezy ones and i run unstable from a stretch install
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193[02:01:24] <dutchfish> mxh-, same for jessie on that unstable?
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197[02:01:48] <mxh-> dutchfish: yup!
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200[02:02:08] <dutchfish> crucify_me, that line looks not default to me: gig() { git pull "replaced-url
201[02:02:17] <dutchfish> mxh-, thanks!
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207[02:05:38] <dutchfish> crucify_me, furthermore, on my system, dir colours are blue per default
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209[02:06:38] <dutchfish> crucify_me, for the rest, i see no wrong things in that .bashrc
210[02:06:56] <mxh-> dutchfish: alias ls='ls --color=auto' ?
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213[02:07:36] <mxh-> dutchfish: just run 'alias' in terminal to check
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215[02:08:06] <dutchfish> mxh-, alias ls='ls --color=auto' for the if [ -x /usr/bin/dircolors ] , so yes
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217[02:08:45] <dutchfish> mxh-, yes
218[02:10:07] <mxh-> dutchfish: meant to reply crucify_me obviously :P sry
219[02:10:24] <dutchfish> mxh-, np :)
220[02:10:28] <mxh-> colorful ls is pretty tho... :3
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241[02:30:16] <keantoken> My dmsg gets spammed with gpio-related errors.
242[02:30:25] <keantoken> I have a Ryzen 1500X.
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259[02:36:08] <AciD`> should I be worried by those message? replaced-url
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264[02:37:44] <johnkeates> yes, it means your fistborn will be sold to microsoft
265[02:38:01] <AciD`> :(
266[02:38:06] <johnkeates> also, no, it's just an NMI that means nothing to Linux and therefore it says: dunno what to do, could be because of power saving
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268[02:38:27] <johnkeates> you might be able to find more about it by getting the NMI code and your computer model and putting it in ye olde googler
269[02:38:28] <RoyK> AciD`: is that a vm?
270[02:38:45] <AciD`> RoyK -> nope, my main system (running on Ryzen)
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275[02:39:02] <johnkeates> in that case it might simply be a yet-to-be-figured-out Ryzen nmi
276[02:39:10] <AciD`> I figured
277[02:39:12] <johnkeates> have you tried a newer kernel?
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279[02:39:22] <AciD`> I only use the debian stable one
280[02:39:34] <RoyK> AciD`: an NMI should never occur on a stable system
281[02:39:42] <AciD`> are there any backports to use a more recent kernel with Stretch?
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283[02:39:46] <RoyK> and debian stable is quite stable
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286[02:40:04] <RoyK> AciD`: this isn't about your kernel version
287[02:40:24] <johnkeates> NMI's are fine to be found on normal runny systems as watchdogs use them too
288[02:40:38] <johnkeates> also, sometimes, it's used (as indicated) by power management features
289[02:40:39] <AciD`> noob question: what is an NMI?
290[02:40:43] <johnkeates> non-maskable interrupt
291[02:40:48] <AciD`> hm
292[02:41:06] <johnkeates> it usually means something is sending a signal to the CPU (an interrupt) that it has to handle
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294[02:41:17] <RoyK> there are two types of interrupts, the normal ones, that can be masked out, and NMI that can'y be masked
295[02:41:19] <johnkeates> afaik: non-maskable means that it cannot be set to be ignored
296[02:41:30] <RoyK> having to piss is like an NMI
297[02:41:39] <johnkeates> well, you can ignore that
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299[02:41:42] <johnkeates> breathing is an NMI
300[02:41:47] <johnkeates> you stop, you die :p
301[02:42:18] <RoyK> johnkeates: that's a background process
302[02:42:22] <AciD`> found that definition : replaced-url
303[02:42:26] <johnkeates> yes, but it is realtime
304[02:42:40] <johnkeates> or maybe nice'ed to -10
305[02:42:45] <johnkeates> which is practically realtime :p
306[02:42:48] <RoyK> an nmi isn't included in multitasking
307[02:42:55] <RoyK> pissing is a good example
308[02:42:57] <johnkeates> might be sharing -10 with the heart and liver
309[02:43:16] <johnkeates> and nmi is probably comparable to a gunshot :p
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311[02:43:39] <johnkeates> it's arriving and all you can do is think about how you're gonna handle it
312[02:44:06] <RoyK> well, you can setup an interrupt handler for it
313[02:44:13] <RoyK> you can't for a gunshot
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316[02:44:32] <johnkeates> you can't for an NMI either (non-maskable)
317[02:44:36] <victorqueiroz> I can't install Debian Sid headers
318[02:44:41] <victorqueiroz> Get a few conflicts
319[02:44:46] <johnkeates> then ask debian-devel on otfc
320[02:44:52] <victorqueiroz> Already tried fresh install, but doesn't work
321[02:44:53] <johnkeates> !dpkg sid
322[02:44:53] <dpkg> i heard sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
323[02:45:06] <johnkeates> !dpkg unstable
324[02:45:07] <dpkg> Unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added at any time, that can disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. replaced-url
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326[02:45:10] <RoyK> johnkeates: linux has NMI handles - read the docs or see the pastebin above
327[02:45:14] <RoyK> !nmi
328[02:45:14] <dpkg> [nmi] Non-Maskable Interrupts, a way to diagnose why a CPU soft-froze. replaced-url
329[02:45:18] <johnkeates> man, i really dont know how to dpkg
330[02:45:29] <johnkeates> RoyK: i know
331[02:45:48] <johnkeates> what the point is: the kernel doesn't know about reason 1c
332[02:45:50] <RoyK> it's not in the DOS days anymore, my friend ;)
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335[02:46:51] <johnkeates> i suppose some NDA docs on ryzen (or maybe even public docs) have an idea what NMI reason 1c is
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351[02:55:40] <cluelessperson> hey guys, should I use Debian 8 or 9? 9 seems a bit buggy
352[02:56:42] <jmcnaught> what problems are you having?
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354[02:57:54] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught: well, right off, I have to use, ip a instead of ifconfig (which makes no sense)
355[02:58:05] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught: and when I do, apt-get upgrade it has dpkg errors
356[02:58:10] <cluelessperson> for a fresh install, that's disheartening
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358[02:58:17] <johnkeates> strange
359[02:58:20] <mxh-> cluelessperson: ifconfig is in net-tools ...
360[02:58:29] <johnkeates> net-tools is no longer relevant
361[02:58:30] <FinalX> cluelessperson: makes ALL the sense, iproute has been the go-to for years, ifconfig and alike have been deprecated for a decade or so now
362[02:58:31] <mxh-> cluelessperson: and can only ben run by root
363[02:58:36] <johnkeates> stop using ifconfig and start using ip
364[02:59:05] <FinalX> (but you can still install them... though you really should've switched years ago already)
365[02:59:15] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: if you're having dpkg/apt errors then please provide the information requested in '/msg dpkg basic apt troubleshooting'
366[02:59:22] <FinalX> plus, missing software is eh, well, not a bug.
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368[02:59:31] <FinalX> especially not when its removal was completely intended years ago already
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374[03:00:03] <jmcnaught> and when it's explained in the release notes that anyone using Debian should at least blink at once or twice
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376[03:00:58] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: oh i see you're also doing this in ##linux, you should continue there instead of multiple places at once
377[03:01:15] <FinalX> hehe
378[03:04:26] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught: well, I think I resollved my issue. :) just concerned about being scared to death on initial install
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381[03:05:59] <mandeep> cluelessperson: are you upgrading or doing a fresh install?
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383[03:06:44] <FinalX> the crap on ##linux just because he said apt is buggy without elaborating, people are all chewing away at APT for behaviour changing and calling it a bug without them even knowing what he's experiencing LOL
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387[03:08:18] <jmcnaught> #debian is a much friendlier place
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389[03:08:20] <cluelessperson> mandeep: fresh
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399[03:19:17] <johnkeates> if apt is considered buggy, what are people in the RPM side of things calling their package managers? absolute turds?
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404[03:21:23] <mxh-> replaced-url
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416[03:28:24] <Al3xG0> is possible unlock tasks/socks in kernel debian?
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421[03:32:05] <keantoken> Grub and console always scanlines no matter what I do.
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425[03:36:30] <l0n3w0lf> hi
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431[03:39:30] <johnkeates> i bet redhat's sbpm (Serious Business Package Manager ®tm) doesn't even have a moo command
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441[03:48:41] <dirac1> moo
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471[04:13:55] <wr> on stretch what can use for flash? flashplayer-nonfree seems out
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474[04:15:51] <petn-randall> wr: You can use pepperflash on chromium, though I don't recommend it.
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476[04:17:25] <mxh-> Proprietary or nothing. Have not needed it in bout a year tho
477[04:18:00] <wr> petn-randall, i dont like none of them either, but the damn sites still use flash stil waiting for 2020 replaced-url
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483[04:22:39] <growp> this os is great
484[04:22:46] <growp> it's like ubuntu but without shit ads
485[04:23:30] <johnkeates> i'll still sell you shit tho
486[04:23:57] <johnkeates> 10 freedom bucks (shipping and tax not included)
487[04:25:34] <mxh-> growp: I keep going back :)
488[04:25:39] <hubot> How can I redirect all network traffic through Tor?
489[04:26:18] <mxh-> Uuh why, are you only staying within the tor network? hubot
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491[04:27:25] <growp> i'm about to get banned from #ubuntu lol
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510[04:38:29] <victorqueiroz> Guys
511[04:38:44] <growp> Buys
512[04:38:45] <victorqueiroz> I'm having a few issues with Debian Sid. Can somebody tell me how can I compile kernel headers and install it?
513[04:38:56] <victorqueiroz> Doesn't matter the version of debian, just need to know how
514[04:39:00] <growp> nuke your current distro and start fresh
515[04:39:23] <growp> make sure to install the latest updates as the base and then install whatever you need on top of that
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518[04:41:53] <jmcnaught> victorqueiroz: the problem you were having earlier is specific to Debian unstable because it has to do with dependencies on packages whose versions are changing. Please go back to #debian-next.
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521[04:47:27] <victorqueiroz> But I did a fresh install on Debian Sid
522[04:47:38] <victorqueiroz> I downloaded debian testing and updated to debian sid
523[04:48:23] <jmcnaught> why not use stable?
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554[05:01:29] <badargo> when i try to move a file named TapeDeckTestDrive.java i get this
555[05:01:30] <badargo> badargo@debian:~$ mv *java && mv *class Java/Head\ First/Objects/
556[05:01:31] <badargo> mv: missing destination file operand after 'TapeDeckTestDrive.java'
557[05:01:38] <badargo> why?
558[05:02:00] <badargo> the other .java and .class filels were moved tho
559[05:02:07] <badargo> files*
560[05:02:17] <jmcnaught> badargo: 'mv SOURCE DEST'
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563[05:03:15] <badargo> if u dont state the source bash will use current directory as source
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565[05:03:40] <badargo> as it has used but hes skiping one file
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568[05:04:40] <magyar> hi guys, I've clean installed stretch and my dual monitor is not working in kde desktop env, need some help
569[05:05:27] <jmcnaught> badargo: where did you read that you can leave off the source with the mv command. Did you read 'man mv'?
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571[05:05:54] <badargo> badargo@debian:~$ mv *java Java/Head\ First/Objects/ just worked without the source
572[05:06:07] <badargo> i dont know, pratice maybe
573[05:06:10] <badargo> experimentation
574[05:06:43] <badargo> but it failed to mv *java /directory && mv *class /directory on 1 of 6 files...
575[05:06:53] <badargo> in 1 of 6 files :P
576[05:07:09] <jmcnaught> badargo: 'mv *java Java/Head\ First/Objects/' has a source and a dest. 'mv *java' does not
577[05:07:21] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell badargo about enter
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583[05:10:37] <badargo> mv *java /directory has a stated source? where jmcnaught ?
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586[05:11:44] <jmcnaught> badargo: are you paraphrasing the commands you are attempting? Please make a paste of the commands and output.
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593[05:17:06] <badargo> now one file just disapeared hah :P
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619[05:40:00] <erwin> can I ask?
620[05:40:29] <jmcnaught> !ask
621[05:40:29] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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623[05:41:41] <erwin> i'm running blankOn OS, how can I repair broken package?
624[05:42:32] <mxh-> erwin: you will need to provide information. what do you mean broken. what's your error, what are you doing etc
625[05:42:37] <jmcnaught> erwin: you'll need to find the channel for your OS, only Debian is supported here
626[05:42:47] <mxh-> it's debian kinda.
627[05:42:54] <jmcnaught> !based on debian
628[05:42:55] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
629[05:43:08] <erwin> oh thanks, I think its debian based
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631[05:43:45] <mxh-> well that's a sad rule for a small fork that's basically a translation
632[05:44:19] <mxh-> erwin: you can PM me your issue if you want.
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652[06:16:40] <hanasaki> are there any default config files for the openvpn server in debian 9?
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655[06:20:06] <themill> hanasaki: there are examples in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/ ; there's not really a default config that makes sense for most use cases so it is left unconfigured and disabled.
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658[06:20:59] <themill> hanasaki: have you found /usr/share/doc/openvpn/README.Debian.gz yet?
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662[06:22:37] <hanasaki> themill: thanks.. will check
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664[06:23:14] <hanasaki> what protocol does openvpn use?
665[06:24:05] <hanasaki> short version.. just want a secure vpn that has easy server setup and works through firewalls . perhaps over ssh or tunneling over https/http
666[06:24:49] <themill> its own
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668[06:26:40] <hanasaki> hmm following this however get an error replaced-url
669[06:27:34] <hanasaki> replaced-url
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749[07:35:25] <brimonk> Can someone help me change the location of a postgres database on Debian 8?
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752[07:37:54] <themill> brimonk: users aren't really supposed to poke around in /var/lib/postgresql -- the intention is that you should use pg* commands for that.
753[07:38:15] <brimonk> themill: I honestly just want to create a specific database on my zfs pool.
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755[07:39:51] <themill> pg_createcluster gives you the ability to specify where
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768[07:54:47] <nkuttler> brimonk: see the postgresql.conf
769[07:58:43] <xormor> I have several computers with GNU/Linux on them. On this computer I have ATI Sapphire and Quake 2's graphics are wonky - they display strange colors. This computer is about 10 years old. The NVidia Geforce computer is about 3 to 4 years old. It displays Quake 2 properly. So where is the problem? I installed some drivers the system told me to install. Should I uninstall the graphics drivers?
770[08:00:56] <well_laid_lawn> xormor: which distro are you using?
771[08:02:05] <xormor> well_laid_lawn, stretch, stable, 9.
772[08:02:11] <well_laid_lawn> k
773[08:02:26] <xormor> well_laid_lawn, so it is Debian stable.
774[08:02:32] <well_laid_lawn> generally graphics modules help with graphics
775[08:02:54] <xormor> I am trying to remove firmware-amd-graphics now. It automatically removes the firmware-linux-nonfree too.
776[08:03:04] <well_laid_lawn> ok
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798[08:25:29] <xormor> well_laid_lawn, just as I suspected, removing firmware-amd-graphics helped.
799[08:26:18] <xormor> well_laid_lawn, now I have a 1027x768 or so resolution. it was 1366x768 or so.
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802[08:28:13] <well_laid_lawn> well done
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806[08:28:59] <xormor> well_laid_lawn, how old is your computer?
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808[08:29:45] <well_laid_lawn> this laptop is from 2011 but I have one from 1998
809[08:29:53] <xormor> I think 10 years is a limit where graphical properties age.
810[08:29:56] <xormor> ok
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842[08:56:52] <Ormu> lots of these in dmesg even though i'm not connected to a wifi: replaced-url
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904[09:51:21] <synthmeat> teraflops: yeah, i'm not experienced with mail setup in general. i just need to have crontab and monit mail me, and redirect root mails to my user. nothing outbound.
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919[10:00:28] <cluelessperson> I'm getting this error message from apt
920[10:00:30] <cluelessperson> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found.
921[10:00:37] <cluelessperson> how do I fix this?
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923[10:03:49] <themill> cluelessperson: you've got an interesting non-printing character in your sources.list by the looks of it
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926[10:04:17] <cluelessperson> themill: no idea what that means, I didn't do anything abnormal in sources.
927[10:04:27] <themill> I suspect you do
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929[10:04:46] <cluelessperson> themill: is an # character odd?
930[10:04:59] <themill> no, this is an invisible character
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932[10:05:05] <juxsys> ohai
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936[10:06:06] <themill> cluelessperson: delete from the h back to the beginning of the line and retype it. (at least that's what it looks like here -- my irc client might be lying to me about what you pasted of course)
937[10:06:37] <cluelessperson> themill: I didn't paste anything apart from that error message
938[10:07:09] <themill> I know
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942[10:09:58] <juxsys> hello! i have a package that wont go away and I dont know what to do and it's beginning to make quite a mess. has anyone had this happen who could potentially provide some guidance?
943[10:11:19] <jim> juxsys, you should tell the actual situation (name the package, if you know the name, etc; add informative details)
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953[10:17:27] <Gekko> Howdy. I'm trying Buster on my new rig (ryzen + rx 580). I'm able to boot to the system when I install Buster by doing a clean Stretch install and then upgrade to buster by using apt upgrade / dist-upgrade. After that, if I install the package "firmware-amd-graphics" my system freezes on boot. I'm currently getting a live CD image to inspect the boot logs to get an idea on what causes the issue,
954[10:17:33] <Gekko> but I'm not sure which log files would contain the boot log for a failed boot
955[10:17:58] <Gekko> Does /var/log/syslog get saved if the system fails to boot?
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957[10:19:30] <Ormu> if the kernel fails to boot at all, then logs of user-mode daemons/programs won't be written... just my 2cents
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962[10:21:12] <Ormu> I see lots of these in dmesg even though i'm not connected to a wifi: replaced-url
963[10:21:13] <mxh-> Gekko: depeding on how far it gets sudo journalctl -x might have kernel output
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965[10:21:51] <Gekko> How would I run journalctl if I only have access to the system hard drive from an external live image on a usb stick
966[10:22:03] <mxh-> chroot?
967[10:22:07] <Gekko> ah
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970[10:27:18] <juxsys> jim, so i wanted to use a brother model printer. The broken package is brscan4. I receive "E: The package brscan4 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it" when issuing most apt commands.
971[10:27:51] <juxsys> I believe I may have to remove an architecture ?
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976[10:33:08] <xormor> juxsys, try packaganeme:amd64 or packagename:i386
977[10:33:26] <Peetz0r> hello! a friend of mine is trying to install flash player tough flahplugin-nonfree
978[10:33:28] <jim> did you add an arch?
979[10:33:37] <xormor> juxsys, "sudo apt install packagename:i386" or "sudo apt install packagename:amd64".
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981[10:34:03] <Peetz0r> but the download fails, because a file doesn' exist anymore somewhere in replaced-url
982[10:34:39] <Peetz0r> well actually, the dpkg configure step has a script that downloads something, and it is that which fails
983[10:34:46] <Peetz0r> the apt-get download part went fine ;)
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985[10:35:50] <juxsys> xormor, just tried and the same error is being displayed
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987[10:36:13] <juxsys> package "needs to be reinstalled but cant find an archive"
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1004[10:43:46] <Agiofws> ok is it easy to upgrade from jessei to jelly or debian 9?
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1010[10:47:25] <nvz> Agiofws: yes, and its called stretch
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1013[10:48:24] <nvz> !jessie->stretch
1014[10:48:34] <Gekko> Ok, the syslog seems to contain all the info needed. I extracte the full syslog from the live usb. Line 1089 seems like the interesting bit replaced-url
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1017[10:50:15] <Agiofws> nvz, how can i install this version of inkscape ? in jessie ? replaced-url
1018[10:50:42] <Gekko> Should I post this as a bug report somewhere?
1019[10:52:01] <Agiofws> E: The value 'stretch-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources ?
1020[10:52:07] <nvz> Agiofws: how to use backports is explained on replaced-url
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1022[10:52:26] <Agiofws> replaced-url
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1024[10:52:47] <Agiofws> apt-get -t stretch-backports install "package"
1025[10:52:56] <nvz> Agiofws: are you running stretch?
1026[10:53:03] <Agiofws> i've already added the backport line in sources
1027[10:53:13] <nvz> apparently the wrong one
1028[10:53:13] <Agiofws> DOES NOT WORK
1029[10:53:18] <Agiofws> sorry for the caps
1030[10:53:29] <nvz> if you are using jessie you need jessie backports not stretch
1031[10:53:40] <Gekko> never mind, this appears to be it replaced-url
1032[10:53:41] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1035[10:54:21] <nvz> Gekko: you can always add to it if you want, confirming the bug
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1041[10:56:19] <nvz> Gekko: just email to 864529@bugs.debian.org say you're confirming the bug, add any information you have, package versions, logs, etc
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1047[11:05:31] <juxsys> how do i reinstall a package?
1048[11:06:05] <Gekko> apt-get install --reinstall packagename
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1051[11:07:24] <juxsys> it keeps saying it cant find the archive
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1057[11:09:29] <juxsys> and i think i #dpkg -i $packagename instead of apt-get install $packagename when installing... neither am i aware of the differences in similarities between apt-get install and dpkg -i
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1063[11:12:36] <mender271> Hello, I have a question regarding connecting to a Raspberry Pi 3 from Debian to Raspbian via SSH.
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1066[11:13:11] <juxsys> so '$sudo apt show brscan4' displays 'Status: purge reinstreq half-configured'
1067[11:13:29] <mender271> I changed the default port in both /etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config and allowed that port via a ufw rule, but when I connect from my Debian box the ssh connection just hangs
1068[11:13:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
1069[11:13:50] <mender271> BluesKaj: hello there! :)
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1071[11:14:14] <BluesKaj> hi mender271
1072[11:14:57] <juxsys> which just sounds plain wrong
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1089[11:23:07] <mender27> So, any ideas why would the ssh connection hang on the RPi 3?
1090[11:23:24] <shtrb> Anyone have an idea what provide /lib/firmware/radeon/banks_k_2_smc.bin (firmware for radeon) ?
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1094[11:26:26] <jolt> mender27: the most common reason for hanging is that name resolution doesn't work. Or that the pi is out of memory perhaps
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1097[11:27:26] <shtrb> mender27, also pam module can hung for a while if you are using some network resolver.
1098[11:27:46] <shtrb> * a common feature now with PIs
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1100[11:29:05] <mender27> In the end the UFW rule was at fault.
1101[11:29:50] <mender27> It's not as clear as for PF on OpenBSD so depending how it's specified UFW might think that it's either the incoming port on the machine or not.
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1104[11:31:07] <BluesKaj> mender27, that's why I avoid ufw, it's an unjnown to me and I have too many modified networking files that may be affected
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1106[11:32:33] <mender27> BluesKaj: oh yeah, I can imagine :D.
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1108[11:32:56] <mender27> Good to be back to Debian by the way.
1109[11:33:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, I'm liking debian more and more
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1117[11:36:06] <mender27> It's nice to be able to just install packages and get to work :D.
1118[11:36:17] <BluesKaj> mender27, I assume you were referrimng to the OS and not this chat :-)
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1121[11:37:10] <mender27> BluesKaj: actually, both.
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1125[11:38:27] <BluesKaj> I meant the OS :-)
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1133[11:41:48] <AlienCat> guys I overwrite the /usr/lib folder
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1135[11:43:18] <BluesKaj> uhoh, with what and why, AlienCat?
1136[11:43:22] <Gekko> Oh boy
1137[11:45:14] <shtrb> AlienCat , get your package list (save it) and you maybe you can reinstall it (to get the old content back)
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1140[11:46:33] <AlienCat> okay but I cannot run apt now
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1143[11:47:06] <shtrb> dpkg
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1147[11:48:45] <mender27> Oho, just realized we ain't getting VirtualBox no more :P.
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1149[11:49:16] <Gekko> What happened to VirtualBox?
1150[11:49:21] <shtrb> non free
1151[11:49:28] <shtrb> *nuked out
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1154[11:50:51] <BluesKaj> don't see it listed in muon
1155[11:51:19] <BluesKaj> qemu-kvm ?
1156[11:51:19] <juxsys> hi #debian, so brscan4 broke my apt, saying it needs to be reinstalled but cant find the archive.
1157[11:51:28] <shtrb> BlueKaj , it was moved back to download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian
1158[11:51:33] <juxsys> looking into it, '$sudo apt show brscan4' displays 'Status: purge reinstreq half-configured'
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1160[11:53:01] <juxsys> was hoping someone could provide some guidance... i believe i may have to remove an architecture if im not mistaken
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1162[11:53:26] <BluesKaj> shtrb, VB was never very useful to me. never worked properly like most VMs, so I just dual boot
1163[11:53:42] <mrjpaxton> You know what sucks? VirtualBox literally runs better on every system I've run it on compared to QEMU. And I'm still too lazy to learn libvirt and Xen. Uhg...
1164[11:54:08] <shtrb> BlueKaj , actually for me VB was better than qemu and vmware , I guess it depened on your workflow
1165[11:54:26] <mender27> ^^" and I was just getting started, because I normally have enough junk around to try an OS on bare metal :).
1166[11:54:41] <shtrb> Qemu had lots of good stuff (still using it) , and now with docker issues VB may get lost
1167[11:54:42] <mrjpaxton> I think it even tried to use 3D support, which by the way is still lacking in QEMU. :c
1168[11:54:56] <AlienCat> but can dpkg reinstall a package, all I find is doing it with apt
1169[11:55:01] <BluesKaj> I'm a plain home wuser , no planned workflow here, shtrb
1170[11:55:02] <shtrb> *have lot of good stuff
1171[11:55:21] <shtrb> AlienCat , yes you can use it (dpkg -i )
1172[11:57:23] <mender27> I guess I could give QEMU a try to simply do a bare metal install again :P.
1173[11:57:34] <AlienCat> dpkg -i apt ?
1174[11:57:34] * dpkg installs apt into aliencat's head with a bone saw and a few screws
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1176[11:57:51] <shtrb> AlienCat, dpkg --force-depnds -i *.dpkg
1177[11:58:04] <shtrb> facepalm
1178[11:58:07] <shtrb> *.deb
1179[11:58:07] <towo`> there is no *.dpkg
1180[11:58:24] <shtrb> towo` , I know , sorry
1181[11:58:27] <towo`> and i don't think, dpkg is working without /usr/lib
1182[11:58:44] <juxsys> ugh im really stuck =(
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1184[11:59:02] <towo`> so the system is fucked up and not worth to try for repairing it
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1186[11:59:13] <mender27> How did it happen?
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1188[11:59:18] <shtrb> AlienCat , does dpkg work for you ?
1189[11:59:36] <AlienCat> dpkg: error: cannot access archive '*.deb': No such file or directory
1190[11:59:36] <dpkg> AlienCat: are you using Windows?
1191[11:59:42] <AlienCat> no linux
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1193[12:00:00] <AlienCat> I was trying to install a lib with moving
1194[12:00:05] <shtrb> AlienCat , I meant get the deb files , and this way you could install it (you put it in a dir that have packages already )
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1197[12:00:19] <shtrb> dpkg should be working , can you try dpkg --get-selections ?
1198[12:00:20] <dpkg> shtrb: bugger all, i dunno
1199[12:00:57] <shtrb> dpkg go calculate pi for an hour or so
1200[12:00:57] * dpkg (sing in the style of Ricki Lake's audience) Go calculate pi for an hour or so, go calculate pi for an hour or so, just damn go. Home.
1201[12:00:58] <AlienCat> and somehow I put the wrong move command so it replaced the /usr/lib
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1206[12:02:13] <AlienCat> yes the command works but how do I get the deb files?
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1209[12:02:36] <AlienCat> dpkg --get-selections just gives me a list
1210[12:02:37] * dpkg selects aliencat's pr0n collection
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1212[12:04:05] <mender27> dpkg, you joker :P
1213[12:04:06] <dpkg> I resemble that remark!
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1217[12:06:42] <mender27> Off I go. See you later everyone :).
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1220[12:07:04] <AlienCat> I have to download it manually with dpkg?
1221[12:07:10] <BluesKaj> dpkg, take a nap
1222[12:07:10] <dpkg> BluesKaj: i haven't a clue
1223[12:07:21] <shtrb> great , save that file at a safe place, get each one of the packages into /var/cache/apt/archives. (get the files using something like wget )
1224[12:07:30] <shtrb> maybe there is a faster way
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1228[12:08:15] <shtrb> maybe get only apt and it's deps into /var/cache/apt/archives and start by installing that to get apt running
1229[12:08:31] <shtrb> maybe the files are already there
1230[12:08:35] <Psy-Q> i'm having strange issues with wrong directory modes (0000) and owners (root instead of my user) when creating dirs on a cifs share mounted from a synology NAS. i tried disabling UNIX extensions on the NAS as well as uid=myuser,forceuid in the mount.cifs options but it doesn't change anything
1231[12:08:50] <AlienCat> hum I will look
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1233[12:09:03] <Psy-Q> i dug out a windows client and it does myuser.users and mode 0700 on the same shares, as it should
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1236[12:11:19] <Psy-Q> files are created in a wacky way too, they all have 0777 permissions, but i think that's a synology craziness. at least the user is correct then.
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1244[12:13:31] <AlienCat> Yeah I got pretty much except libmandb
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1246[12:13:40] <Psy-Q> damn, i spoke too soon. when logged in as normal user via ssh to the NAS, it shows the perms as 0777. but when using root, it shows 0700 (which is correct), just 0000 and root.users on the dirs
1247[12:14:14] <shtrb> isn't 0000 is invalid in such a context ?
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1256[12:19:55] <AlienCat> do you have any idea where I can find the deb package?
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1258[12:20:54] <shtrb> on your local mirror (or if you are lucky in /var/cache/apt/archives/ )
1259[12:21:27] <shtrb> you can use the debian package search engine to get a path (or maybe there is faster way)
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1261[12:21:40] <Psy-Q> shtrb: i would guess so, i don't know where it comes from. i've seen some /var/log/samba/log.smbd entries that suggest synology patched the smbd with their own functions and they might be breaking, but they don't break for the windows client
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1264[12:22:34] <Psy-Q> i'm getting this error: replaced-url
1265[12:23:01] <Psy-Q> but i'm stuck a bit because it seems all the mount.cifs options i give to the debian client are more or less ignored
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1267[12:23:23] <AlienCat> well it seems my mirror do not have any debs at all :S maybe they are compressed
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1269[12:23:46] <shtrb> AlienCat , you can something like replaced-url
1270[12:24:44] <shtrb> AlienCat , there was an issue with secendary mirrors last week (for a very short time they had not been updating their content) maybe your mirror is having the same thing
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1272[12:25:05] <AlienCat> maybe
1273[12:25:13] <AlienCat> I will keep looking
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1275[12:25:25] <Walakea> what does it mean when there is a package named "libXXX1"? (the '1' there)
1276[12:25:39] <shtrb> AlienCat , you can use the link that I gave you
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1278[12:26:32] <AlienCat> strange I am searching on the site and do not find libmandb
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1280[12:27:50] <AlienCat> ah it is man-db
1281[12:27:54] <shtrb> What is that package ?
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1285[12:29:53] <AlienCat> its man apparently
1286[12:30:05] <AlienCat> required for running man
1287[12:30:24] <shtrb> I missed your comment about it's being man-db
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1295[12:34:21] <AlienCat> I was trying to find the package but I searched for wrong thing
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1308[12:44:20] <AlienCat> Can't locate Cwd.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Cwd module) :(
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1311[12:45:24] <shtrb> perl-base
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1315[12:46:22] <AlienCat> ah thanks
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1341[12:59:47] <Psy-Q> this is bizarre. in their custom code in samba inside SYNOSmbSetAdminOwnerUid() the synology people use become_root() and then try to SMB_VFS_FCHOWN, but that fails because for some reason they create the file with mode 0000
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1343[13:00:05] <Psy-Q> but after become_root() i thought they should be able to chown the file no matter what mode?
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1346[13:03:42] <AlienCat> my webrowser dies
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1416[13:49:05] <AlienCat> E: Internal Error, No file name for libglib2.0-cil:amd64
1417[13:49:17] <AlienCat> well apt works now
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1440[14:09:21] <azy> is there a free alternative to virtualbox? stallman is currently proud of me and i'd like to keep it that way :)))
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1445[14:11:57] <abrotman> azy: what isn't free about it?
1446[14:12:10] <abrotman> maybe qemu?
1447[14:12:14] <azy> i've no idea. it's in the non-free section
1448[14:12:24] <abrotman> no, there is a driver that is in non-free
1449[14:13:25] <abrotman> judd: info virtualbox
1450[14:13:26] <judd> No package named 'virtualbox' was found in stretch/amd64.
1451[14:13:33] <abrotman> judd: info virtualbox --release sid
1452[14:13:34] <judd> Package virtualbox (contrib/misc, optional) in sid/amd64: x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. Version: 5.1.26-dfsg-1; Size: 15997.7k; Installed: 72710k; Homepage: replaced-url
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1454[14:17:04] <abrotman> azy: if you don't install the Recommends for that package, it should be oka
1455[14:17:06] <abrotman> okay
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1457[14:17:18] <azy> abrotman, im not sure how to do that
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1462[14:20:13] <wyoung> hai abrotman!
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1466[14:22:45] <azy> got it
1467[14:22:48] <azy> ty
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1470[14:22:54] <blade2> ciao
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1474[14:24:29] <AlienCat> why can I suddenly not access the amd64 qrchives
1475[14:24:30] <AlienCat> ?
1476[14:27:07] <wyoung> AlienCat: Do you own a cat?
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1478[14:27:56] <abrotman> AlienCat: that's completely vague .. what are you doing? what's the error?
1479[14:28:32] <wyoung> abrotman: I blame the cat
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1481[14:29:00] <abrotman> wyoung: please stop, not amused
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1483[14:29:47] <wyoung> abrotman: ok, although that was blunt
1484[14:29:58] <abrotman> Wolverine6: Do not do that
1485[14:30:12] <AlienCat> well something is wrong with apt apport-gtk depends on apport (>= 0.41); however: Package apport is not configured yet.
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1487[14:30:29] <abrotman> AlienCat: use paste.debian.net to show us
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1489[14:30:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o abrotman
1490[14:30:54] *** Wolverine6 was kicked by abrotman (you should know better)
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1493[14:30:59] <abrotman> ...
1494[14:31:19] <AlienCat> I would love to but my webrowser is broken
1495[14:31:38] <AlienCat> I guess I will just have to remove the packages
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1499[14:34:06] <wyoung> abrotman: What did Wolverine6 do again?
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1501[14:34:31] <mxh-> pah, curl against pastebin.com/api :3
1502[14:34:39] <abrotman> wyoung: you do realize this is a Debian support channel, yes?
1503[14:34:59] <wyoung> abrotman: Yes I do
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1505[14:35:37] <mxh-> ook we got a crazy mod now bye
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1509[14:36:42] <wyoung> abrotman: Is there anything I can help you with?
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1512[14:39:20] <abrotman> yes, try to be less noisy
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1515[14:40:09] <wyoung> abrotman: Is that within topic?
1516[14:40:38] <abrotman> Sure is Sunday ..
1517[14:42:11] <wyoung> I vote yes
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1520[14:42:20] <blade2> ciao
1521[14:42:30] <blade2> !list
1522[14:42:31] <dpkg> blade2: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a replaced-url
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1524[14:42:44] <wyoung> blade2: You join channels in order to say bi?
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1536[14:48:11] <wyoung> abrotman: How is debian as a bare metal server? Does it contain packages and or scripts to assist?
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1539[14:50:02] <abrotman> wyoung: You should visit debian.org and read a bit about the project, and how the system works
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1543[14:51:15] <wyoung> abrotman: Really? The last time I went there it had nothing on bare metal.
1544[14:51:32] <abrotman> Assist with what?
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1546[14:51:56] <wyoung> abrotman: metal as a service
1547[14:52:18] <abrotman> that doesn't make sense
1548[14:52:38] <abrotman> What do you want it to do for you?
1549[14:53:07] <wyoung> just wondering if debian has something similar to ubuntu. I would rather use debian
1550[14:53:14] <abrotman> then use it
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1553[14:54:13] <wyoung> but does it have similar infrusturuatuceueueuer?
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1563[14:59:47] <rocketmagnet> hi all, can someone tell me where to find libgcrypt11 ? apt-get only finds the -dev package :/ (debian 9)
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1565[15:02:31] <dvs> rocketmagnet, that's funny. But there's a libgcrypt20 package (and -dev too)
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1567[15:03:26] <wyoung> rocketmagnet: Do you really need to support an old version?
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1580[15:11:19] <shtrb> anyone have a clue what could disable USB ports ? I even nuked laptop-tools but can't identify what it is
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1582[15:12:06] <shtrb> *only when A/C is not plugged in
1583[15:12:18] <wyoung> shtrb: BIOS setting?
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1585[15:12:30] <shtrb> none that I could find
1586[15:12:50] <wyoung> It could be driver or paper clip related
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1588[15:13:06] <shtrb> What do you mean by paper clip related ?
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1591[15:13:45] <shtrb> after reboot the port is back up
1592[15:13:53] <wyoung> paperclip or any metal object that shorts the usb ports can cause the usb ports to fail
1593[15:14:44] <shtrb> I didn't plug one there :), and the setup didn't change (except jessie to stretch)
1594[15:15:26] <wyoung> shtrb: It could also be firmware / bios related
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1597[15:15:51] * shtrb is going to have a very nice chat with Dell Customer service soon :)
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1601[15:16:29] <wyoung> shtrb: and they will say they don't support Linux
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1610[15:22:46] <azy> hows best to handle dependencies of old versions of what you alreayd have installed?
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1616[15:26:40] <Antares> replaced-url
1617[15:26:45] <wyoung> azy: Install a previous version of debian
1618[15:27:29] <wyoung> azy: use some VMs or what not
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1622[15:28:22] <azy> ty wyoung
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1633[15:34:32] <Raven737> Hi all. Question: After crying with range because Windows 10 repeatedly killed my VP9 4k rendering task due to unasked and unstoppable updates, I would like to use Debian instead. However, I am new (only used console only server before). I want to be able to play back video with hardware acceleration and want to be able to use hardware acceleration in a web browser for youtube so that I can play back 4k content there. Is this possib
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1647[15:48:19] <Walakea> Raven737: your GPU?
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1650[15:50:24] <Gekko> also Raven737, your line cut at "Is this possib". IRC has a max length for lines, so you may want to split your line (or use a plugin that does it)
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1654[15:54:02] <Raven737> Walakea: GTX 970. I maybe want to switch over my Laptop too with Intel HD (works for 4K playback when acceleration is enabled)
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1657[15:54:24] <Walakea> there are always problems with nvidia cards
1658[15:54:52] <Walakea> i fixed mine by disabling it and using only the integrated Intel one
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1661[15:55:23] <Raven737> Walakea: OK, build in intel one it is. How to i enable accelration?
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1663[15:55:41] <BluesKaj> Nvidia runs fine on linux, just need the correct driver
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1665[15:55:54] <Walakea> there are free driver by nouveau with poor performance or proprietary nvidia drivers which are supposed to be very good, but there is a lot of hassle with them
1666[15:56:03] <Gekko> I've also had tons of issues on Debian with optimus. Not sure if that's the system used these days for intel + nvidia laptops
1667[15:56:30] <BluesKaj> Walakea, FUD
1668[15:56:59] <Walakea> on older cards, nouveau is better
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1671[15:57:56] <shtrb> Walakea , and let's not start on dedicated /onboard cards
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1673[15:58:07] <Walakea> Raven737: i think you don't have to do anything to enable Intel acceleration
1674[15:58:10] <BluesKaj> Walakea, Taht might be your experience , but a lot of nvidia users have no problems whatsoever
1675[15:58:28] <Walakea> ok, i should have say that
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1677[15:59:15] <BluesKaj> Raven737, suggest you do some research on your own before accepting an opinion as fact
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1681[16:00:18] <Walakea> since i have a GTX 940M, which is just a little better than the Intel one, i did not have the motivation to make it work7
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1684[16:00:42] <Walakea> i also refuse to use Steams and proprietary games on my Debian
1685[16:00:49] <Gekko> I've never got OpenCL working on my intel + nvidia laptop, while primusrun works with for OpenGL stuff
1686[16:00:54] <Walakea> Intel card works good for the rest
1687[16:01:09] <wyoung> yup
1688[16:01:10] <wyoung> I use both
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1690[16:02:21] <Walakea> Raven737: on Jessie, i needed to install an intel driver from backports to enable acceleration (for my Intel card), it is no longer needed in Stretch
1691[16:02:23] <BluesKaj> Gekko, Optimus?
1692[16:02:41] <Gekko> That's what the system is called on my older laptop (2010-ish?)
1693[16:02:46] <Gekko> For intel + nvidia hybrid GPU laptop
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1695[16:03:44] <Raven737> Walakea: well i'm just installing 9.1 so i should be fine? I'll see, waiting for it to finish up :)
1696[16:03:58] <BluesKaj> Raven737, didn't say he has an Optimus/hybrid gpu system so why are you suggesting he has the same problems you do?
1697[16:04:09] <BluesKaj> Gekko,^
1698[16:04:28] <Gekko> Mostly I'm wondering if the system is still called that, for which I might have a hint or two
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1700[16:04:46] <Gekko> Apologies if it was distracting
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1704[16:05:10] <Walakea> Raven737: i would say so
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1706[16:05:50] <BluesKaj> Walakea, same goes for you, seems you also have a hybrid gpu system , corrct?
1707[16:06:16] <Walakea> i do have, but as i said, i disabled my nvidia
1708[16:06:29] <Walakea> by installing bbswitch
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1710[16:06:46] <Walakea> i noticed increased battery consumption before i did so
1711[16:06:49] <luna_> Premiere of this years Debconf: replaced-url
1712[16:06:52] <Raven737> BluesKaj: Yes, i will try out as much as I can but wanted to ask what i might try / ensure first to get it working as easily as possible
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1714[16:07:25] <Walakea> Raven737: i jumped straight into Debian with no prior experience
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1719[16:07:58] <Walakea> i had to fix some small problems
1720[16:08:14] <Walakea> but everything is on intenet
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1724[16:08:40] <BluesKaj> Raven737, your nvidia card should run fine with the correct driver...an optimus hybrid ssytem has problems, but yours won't .
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1726[16:09:34] <csmall> I have an Optimus, it is weird for sure.
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1735[16:13:22] <Cl0udN9ne> do any of you guys use gnome?
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1738[16:13:54] <Cl0udN9ne> what is the package name of the program called Character Map?
1739[16:14:00] <wyoung> Cl0udN9ne: I use unity, and you may want to ask to gurls if they use gnome too, don't leave them out.
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1741[16:14:31] <Cl0udN9ne> wyoung: sure ;)
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1743[16:14:43] <Walakea> i like xfce more
1744[16:14:54] <wyoung> Terminal <3
1745[16:15:20] <xormor> Cl0udN9ne, charmap.app/stable
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1747[16:16:01] <Cl0udN9ne> i justed wanted tht packages name
1748[16:16:22] <luisss> good day to you all, i do need help i just bought an nvidia geoforce gt 710 i have followed severl post trying to be detected by debian 9 stretch wich i by the way because of this nvidia car i have installed several times after messing up trying to install it, can some one help to install it please?
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1752[16:16:57] <wyoung> luisss: Are you using the free or propritery drivers?
1753[16:17:06] <rozie> !nvidia
1754[16:17:07] <dpkg> Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see replaced-url
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1757[16:17:46] <luisss> right now i just finished installin debian 9 agaibn and is using the free driver since is not detecting my nvidia geoforce gt710
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1759[16:18:34] <Walakea> did somebody try to emulate graphics on a text terminal?
1760[16:18:53] <Walakea> using colored text
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1762[16:19:12] <rozie> Walakea: some movie players have ascii mode
1763[16:19:17] <davidl> the netinstaller hangs all the time when I try to install
1764[16:19:25] <davidl> hangs at 6%
1765[16:19:26] <wyoung> luisss: I like the proprietary drives
1766[16:19:39] <davidl> installing into a virtual machine with qemu, tried both raw images and qcow2
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1768[16:19:43] <wyoung> davidl: crappy Internet?
1769[16:20:00] <davidl> wyoung: yeah pretty slow. it's adsl.
1770[16:20:06] <davidl> but not super bad.
1771[16:20:13] <xormor> Cl0udN9ne, gucharmap
1772[16:20:19] <davidl> it's still like 16mbit/s according to tests.
1773[16:20:44] <luisss> wyoung i do also like teh propietary drivers but i have had try several post and it always end up messing with debian 9 so i have had to reisntalling it several times
1774[16:20:45] <wyoung> davidl: that's slow? I am on 12mbit/s HFC
1775[16:21:00] <davidl> wyoung: well, everything's relative =)
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1777[16:21:15] <davidl> I had 100/100 previously.
1778[16:21:47] <davidl> wyoung: so do you have any idea why this is not working?
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1780[16:23:00] <Cl0udN9ne> thnx
1781[16:23:05] <Cl0udN9ne> ,v gucharmap
1782[16:23:06] <judd> Package: gucharmap on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.4.1.1-2.1; jessie: 1:3.14.1-1; sid: 1:9.0.2-1; buster: 1:9.0.2-1; stretch: 1:9.0.2-1
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1786[16:24:14] <wyoung> davidl: Of course I don'tm, I am not a fortune teller
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1788[16:24:41] <davidl> alright. maybe it was a known issue or a common one.
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1801[16:27:24] <wyoung> wind 17
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1810[16:34:57] <abrotman> wyoung: Please stop "helping"
1811[16:37:25] <rocketmagnet> how to search for a package in wheezy-packport
1812[16:37:38] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: do you have the sources setup?
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1817[16:40:34] <rocketmagnet> my source.list contains "deb replaced-url
1818[16:40:40] <rocketmagnet> abrotman: ^
1819[16:40:48] <rocketmagnet> sources.list
1820[16:41:06] <dvs> I thought ftp was no longer used.
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1822[16:41:24] <rocketmagnet> apt-update told me everything went aalright
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1824[16:41:45] <dvs> !ftp.debian.org
1825[16:41:46] <dpkg> ftp.debian.org is not the principal mirror for Debian. It is just one mirror that uses bandwidth that was donated to the Debian project; you are kindly requested not to use this mirror but to instead use a mirror that is closer to you, ask me about <mirrors>. See replaced-url
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1831[16:44:27] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: Are you looking for a specific package?
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1835[16:51:16] <rocketmagnet> abrotman: i need libgcrypt11,
1836[16:51:21] <rocketmagnet> for staruml
1837[16:51:41] <rocketmagnet> can't i search the backports ????
1838[16:52:01] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: you don't really need to search specifically backports
1839[16:52:07] <abrotman> apt-cache search libgcrypt11
1840[16:52:10] <abrotman> do you see it?
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1842[16:52:36] <abrotman> I only see it in wheezy, not wheezy backports
1843[16:52:52] <dvs> and in sid
1844[16:52:55] <rocketmagnet> abrotman: i only see the -dev packages
1845[16:52:58] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: but if all you need is the -dev package, that already exists
1846[16:53:07] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: can you show us an error with whatever you're trying to do?
1847[16:53:07] <rocketmagnet> how do you search
1848[16:53:17] <abrotman> dvs: debports doesn't count :)
1849[16:53:26] <dvs> okay
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1852[16:54:53] <rocketmagnet> replaced-url
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1856[16:55:25] <abrotman> where did you get that package?
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1858[16:56:05] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: I would get the package from wheezy, and try to install it, and hten see if your package works
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1860[16:56:23] <dvs> abrotman, that package is in jessie and jessie-backports
1861[16:56:25] <dvs> weird
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1863[16:56:43] <abrotman> staruml or libgcrypt?
1864[16:56:56] <dvs> libgcrypt11
1865[16:57:07] <dvs> -dev
1866[16:57:12] <abrotman> judd: versions libgcrypt11
1867[16:57:13] <judd> Package: libgcrypt11 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.5.0-5+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.5.0-5+deb7u6
1868[16:57:34] <dvs> judd: versions libgcrypt11-dev
1869[16:57:35] <judd> Package: libgcrypt11-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.5.0-5+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.5.0-5+deb7u6; jessie: 1.5.4-3+really1.6.3-2+deb8u4; jessie-security: 1.5.4-3+really1.6.3-2+deb8u4; jessie-backports: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.6-1~bpo8+1; stretch-security: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.6-2+deb9u1; stretch: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.6-2+deb9u1; sid: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.8-2; buster: 1.5.4-3+really1.7.8-2; experimental:
1870[16:57:36] <judd> 1.5.4-3+really1.8.0-1
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1872[16:57:41] <dvs> weird
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1887[17:13:11] <rocketmagnet> abrotman: so the sources.list file should look like deb replaced-url
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1889[17:13:51] <rocketmagnet> how does the searching worked you used ???
1890[17:14:04] <rocketmagnet> abrotman: ^
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1897[17:18:24] <abrotman> rocketmagnet: sure, and then you can apt-get update;apt-get install libgcrypt11
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1900[17:22:03] <chadwin> Good morning guys!!!
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1904[17:24:11] <chadwin> I have a problem with an Ibook g4 and debian, for some reason everytime I launch a gui by using startx it freezes
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1906[17:24:24] <chadwin> I tried awesome / i3
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1916[17:29:47] <rocketmagnet> abrotman: now it does work, thank you, but would you please tell me how you did the package search ? did you used debian.org ?
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1918[17:30:46] <abrotman> packages.debian.org/libgcrypt11
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1945[17:42:48] <Macieko0> any1 use another debugger then gdb ??
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1996[18:06:44] <dTal> I note with dismay that with the latest Debian my wireless adapter is now called "wlp1s0" instead of "wlan0"
1997[18:06:51] <dTal> who makes these decisions and why do we listen to them
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1999[18:07:35] <aging> ^ hah
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2001[18:08:11] <aging> i stick w/eth0
2002[18:09:01] <jmcnaught> dTal: it's in the stretch release notes. it's a better system than before if you look into it. why does it matter really?
2003[18:09:14] <aging> you gotta change your conky!
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2008[18:10:42] <SpeakerToMeat> Hello
2009[18:10:46] <AlexLikeRock> hi
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2011[18:10:50] <AlexLikeRock> welcom to debian
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2013[18:10:53] <SpeakerToMeat> is there any way to run the output of aptitude activity through less?
2014[18:10:58] <SpeakerToMeat> Thanks AlexLikeRock
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2017[18:11:16] <AlexLikeRock> WHAT do you mean ?
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2020[18:11:23] <AlexLikeRock> silence mode ?
2021[18:11:37] <abrotman> SpeakerToMeat: which aptitude commands?
2022[18:12:30] <SpeakerToMeat> I'm having difficulty with nvidia and mesa installs (how strange), which have now confined me to cli only after a restart, I want to copy the first error message when trying to finish instalation via gpm to links to try and find a solution, but the ammount of error messages is longer than the buffer I can access with ctrl-pgup so I wonder if I can run the process of instalation (actualy configure it's
2023[18:12:32] <SpeakerToMeat> postinstall that's failing) through less to scroll it
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2028[18:13:04] <SpeakerToMeat> Basically There's a conflict in a libGL.so somewhere if I remember from the first run before my machine turned itself off, and I want to see the message again
2029[18:13:19] <AlexLikeRock> yes, you can see at :
2030[18:13:24] <SpeakerToMeat> Maybe I could do a dpkg reconfigure with less?
2031[18:13:59] <AlexLikeRock> cat /var/log/aptitude
2032[18:14:18] <SpeakerToMeat> Ah thank you
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2034[18:14:41] <AlexLikeRock> to olds one, campressed ;
2035[18:14:43] <AlexLikeRock> zcat /var/log/aptitude.1.gz
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2037[18:15:06] <abrotman> zless ?
2038[18:15:07] <SpeakerToMeat> Hmmm not actually, the log lists all the packages that weren't configured, but it doesn't contain the error output
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2042[18:15:25] <abrotman> SpeakerToMeat: dpkg --configure -a
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2045[18:15:37] <SpeakerToMeat> abrotman: Thanks, I'll run that and pass stdout through less
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2047[18:16:22] <SpeakerToMeat> And, can't page output with less.... I wonder if it's stderr
2048[18:16:36] <abrotman> SpeakerToMeat: the "script" command might be useful for you
2049[18:16:54] <AlexLikeRock> you can find error and log at addres /var/log
2050[18:17:02] <SpeakerToMeat> Yes it was stderr.
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2052[18:17:15] <SpeakerToMeat> dpkg --configure -a 2>&1|less did the trick
2053[18:17:16] <dpkg> SpeakerToMeat: I give up, what is it?
2054[18:17:33] <SpeakerToMeat> dpkg: It's you being helpfull.... :) sorry for the second trigger though
2055[18:17:34] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, SpeakerToMeat
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2059[18:18:16] <SpeakerToMeat> Ok now I need to untangle the nvidia-mesa tangle, thanks all. I'll google before comming here
2060[18:18:42] <SpeakerToMeat> I should change my locale to en, will produce more google hits
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2067[18:21:33] <szymon_g> hi
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2069[18:22:26] <dsc_> df -h
2070[18:22:59] <szymon_g> could anyone, please, provide me with link of "live-cd" image of testing version of debian so I could dd it into the usb drive and start it and install it on hdd? TIA
2071[18:24:02] <AlexLikeRock> yes szymon_g
2072[18:24:12] <AlexLikeRock> live-cd you can :
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2077[18:24:28] <AlexLikeRock> 1- testi /try woitou install
2078[18:24:34] <AlexLikeRock> 2- install at start
2079[18:24:40] <AlexLikeRock> you choice
2080[18:25:03] <jmcnaught> szymon_g: why do you need the testing version? it's unfinished (barely started) and likely to have some rocky periods as it goes through transitions. Why not use stable instead, which is still pretty fresh?
2081[18:25:15] <AlexLikeRock> replaced-url
2082[18:25:28] <AlexLikeRock> oh! testing
2083[18:25:43] <jmcnaught> also installer images are recommended over live images for installing. live images don't get as much testing as installer images do
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2086[18:27:26] <AlexLikeRock> yeah, non exist to genel people, beacuse the NOT ARE STABLE , szymon_g
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2107[18:36:53] <dTal> Okay I so I have libcrypto.so.1.0.2 and libcrypto.so.1.1 and neither of them are symlinked to libcrypto.so
2108[18:37:20] <dTal> this results in a program [Racket] not being able to find it at all
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2115[18:40:30] <dTal> apparently I have to install libssl-dev? That seems weird
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2122[18:41:26] <dTal> 7 megabytes of header files just to get a symlink?
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2125[18:43:27] <szymon_g> jmcnaught, I used to use the testing version few years ago, when i was using debian. it's a habit, i think
2126[18:43:47] <jmcnaught> it's a bad habit.
2127[18:43:49] <SpeakerToMeat> Sigh my Jessie is so minced going stretch will be a feat
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2129[18:44:36] <jmcnaught> szymon_g: if you need newer programs, there are backports and other ways to get them without running a development branch
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2139[18:50:48] <SpeakerToMeat> Aaand it seems to solve my glx issue I need to reinstal o deinstall something like 400 packages
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2143[18:51:27] <SpeakerToMeat> I think I rather live the rest of my life with no X11
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2255[19:46:49] <sweb> during installation of debian jessie all mirrors not work (netinstall)
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2257[19:47:01] <sweb> is jessie removed from all repositories ?
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2260[19:47:20] <jmcnaught> no
2261[19:47:41] <Macieko0> mirrors working
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2264[19:48:34] <kroussenq> hey
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2266[19:48:55] <kroussenq> I'm Installing Debian x86 on a MacBook 1.1 (Core Duo)
2267[19:49:05] <sweb> my server is ping well from my pc ... but i tested many mirrors all mirror not working .... any guide ?
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2269[19:49:15] <kroussenq> and I'm having some issues with ACPI
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2271[19:50:04] <jmcnaught> sweb: what is the exact error message you get in debian-installer? Is there more information on tty4 (Alt-F1)
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2279[19:52:45] <kroussenq> sweb: I'm having issues with the mirrors too, in strtch/updates i'm using: stretch/updates replaced-url
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2281[19:53:20] <sweb> kroussenq: ty i will try
2282[19:53:55] <kroussenq> with other mirrors I'm getting 404 errors
2283[19:54:13] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: have you done 'apt update' recently?
2284[19:54:22] <stree> 2 users recently with an iis ftps server
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2286[19:54:52] <kroussenq> jmcnaught: All packages are up to date.
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2288[19:55:39] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: i didn't ask about upgrade, i asked about update. If apt is telling you 404, is it using an outdated index?
2289[19:56:17] <jmcnaught> sweb: also stretch is out now, probably better to start with installing stretch unless you have a specific reason to use jessie
2290[19:56:23] <kroussenq> jmcnaught: I'm just telling to sweb how I fixed the 404 errors, my apt are ok :)
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2292[19:56:56] <sweb> jmcnaught: i know it's legacy app need older version of debian
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2296[19:58:16] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: cool i was probably confused by your use of present tense rather than past
2297[19:58:38] <kroussenq> Sorry, I have a poor english :/
2298[19:58:47] <SpeakerToMeat> I installed a debian 2 or 3 a couple months ago :D
2299[19:59:00] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: not that bad, better than my French ☺
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2302[20:00:47] <kroussenq> someone can help me with this Macbook ACPI? replaced-url
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2306[20:01:34] <kroussenq> after installing intel-microcode, I got some kernel panics, then I uninstalled it,
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2312[20:03:31] <kroussenq> and here, have all my dmesg: replaced-url
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2315[20:04:12] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: is the issue that you get a warning? or is the computer behaving poorly somehow?
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2317[20:05:09] <tharkun> Good $DAY I have this process called Web Content that is gobling an astounding 32.6% of ram (2GB total) and 27% cpucore. grepping ps aux for the info I get this /usr/lib/firefox-esr/plugin-container -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 13755 true tab Since this is a fresh install can someone give me a hint on wtf is wrong ?
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2320[20:07:14] <kroussenq> jmcnaught: when I close the notebook to put him to sleep, this doesn't work. When I type #reboot or #init 6 in a terminal to reboot, the grub menu doesn`t appear (I need to force a poweroff and power on again).
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2325[20:07:56] <kroussenq> and, sometimes the computer freezes after start the gdm3
2326[20:08:16] <tharkun> /etc/init.d/gdm3 restart
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2328[20:08:49] <kroussenq> tharkun: It's a kernel problem, not a gdm3 or a X11 config...
2329[20:09:07] <RoyK> tharkun: or systemctl or service? ;)
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2332[20:09:29] <tharkun> RoyK: no idea
2333[20:09:31] <RoyK> tharkun: running init scripts directly is a bit old-fashioned ;)
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2335[20:09:49] <kroussenq> RoyK: I'm a dinossaur then... ;x
2336[20:10:15] <tharkun> rofl
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2339[20:11:33] <tharkun> RoyK: systemctl and service where used by redhat back in the day Debian didn't use them until 5 I believe but you had to install an aditional package
2340[20:12:32] <jmcnaught> the man page for invoke-rc.d is from 2001
2341[20:12:47] <RoyK> tharkun: systemctl came into debian 7 and rhel 7 along with systemd, "serice" has been along for a while on both systems
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2343[20:13:28] <RoyK> "service" even
2344[20:14:05] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: does the system reboot if you use your GUI or desktop environment to reboot it? What about "systemctl reboot". Have you found anything in /var/log/syslog or other logs related to the suspend/resume events?
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2351[20:15:59] <trbo> hello, i can't seem to expand a lvm in debian? i have /dev/sda5 which currenly is 64G and i want to expand it to 84G, but it won't let me to?
2352[20:16:02] <RoyK> tharkun: btw, running init scripts directly probably won't work on modern distros since they use systemd, which uses other mechanisms for services than old SysV
2353[20:16:04] <trbo> Any good guides on how to do it
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2355[20:16:18] <tharkun> RoyK: They still work.
2356[20:16:32] <tharkun> !lvm
2357[20:16:32] <dpkg> [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (replaced-url
2358[20:16:36] <RoyK> trbo: you probably need to extend the partition - gparted is the easiest way
2359[20:16:39] <tharkun> trbo: ^^
2360[20:16:46] <trbo> i'll check!
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2363[20:17:27] <trbo> is that the guibased thingy?
2364[20:17:47] <RoyK> yeah
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2366[20:18:02] <RoyK> parted or fdisk should do as well
2367[20:18:08] <RoyK> just make sure you have a backup first
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2369[20:18:20] <trbo> rarely new machine so not a big thing if it dies
2370[20:18:22] <trbo> just want to learn
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2375[20:19:09] <RoyK> if you just delete the partition and create a new, larger one with the same start sector, you should be able t pvextend that easily
2376[20:19:14] <kroussenq> jmcnaught: there is a lot of info in that log, I'm seeing this file right now
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2378[20:20:22] <RoyK> trbo: obviously, you should umount the filesystem first
2379[20:20:35] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: do you see timestamps in that log? I recommend going to a time when you did a suspend/resume. If you can't remember the time, do it now and write down the time
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2387[20:22:15] <kroussenq> I'm restoring a backup from an old eeepc right now, I'll wait some time and try a suspend/resume
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2390[20:24:31] <trbo> tharkun: RoyK while in gparted, i see the partition. but i cant extend it? It has a lock on it
2391[20:24:31] <trbo> fixed it
2392[20:24:42] <tharkun> !lvm
2393[20:24:43] <dpkg> [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (replaced-url
2394[20:24:49] <tharkun> trbo: ^^
2395[20:25:11] <hubot> I have Debian 9 Stretch CD from Linux Magazine. How's difference between this CD and CD image downloaded from debian.org?
2396[20:25:15] <RoyK> trbo: goodie
2397[20:25:18] <tharkun> trbo: you never know when X/wayland will die on you.
2398[20:25:34] <tharkun> hubot: dd and diff are your friends.
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2404[20:28:03] <RoyK> tharkun: repartitioning doesn't take a lot of time and will probably finish even after X closes the door
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2408[20:29:28] <trbo> now i see that /dev/sda5 is 84gb and the vg is 84gb, but df -h show only 48gb?
2409[20:29:37] <tharkun> RoyK: lvm has its own set of tools that work great and well ...
2410[20:29:56] <RoyK> tharkun: not for resizing partitions
2411[20:30:26] <RoyK> trbo: pvresize etc
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2414[20:31:20] <jmcnaught> an alternative to growing the partition that has your LVM PV on it would have been to make another partition in the free space, pvcreate it, and add that to the volume group
2415[20:31:28] <RoyK> trbo: that is - pvresize - lvresize - resize2fs or xfsgrow or whatever you're using
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2417[20:31:52] <RoyK> jmcnaught: yep - I usually do that
2418[20:32:11] <trbo> forgot to do resize2fs :)
2419[20:32:13] <trbo> thanks guys!
2420[20:32:18] <RoyK> far safer than middling with partition tables in runtime
2421[20:32:36] <stree> thank you forgot to plug in and it just seems like the idea that were open at a judgement call
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2425[20:34:36] <tharkun> RoyK: If you had read man lvm you wouldn't have skipped the little set of commands that do lots of stuff like lvextend lvreduce and a miriad others that do exactly what trbo is looking for.
2426[20:35:27] <trbo> i just use lvm too rarely to be able to keep it fresh in my mind :P
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2435[20:39:08] <trbo> last question, why can i only create a 2tb partition with fdisk, but the disk is 5.4tb in vmware?
2436[20:39:27] <tharkun> trbo: debian has allways proposed a "complex" set of partitions that separate spaces on disks for it to be more stable under certain general circumstances. Whe you upgrade from release to release you sometimes get that software has grown enough to need a partition tweaking lvm does the job very nicely.
2437[20:39:33] <trbo> i set the type to 8e
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2440[20:40:05] <trbo> should i use GPT?
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2457[20:44:28] <kroussenq> trbo: "[...]GPT is a newer standard and is gradually replacing MBR. GPT brings with it many advantages, but MBR is still the most compatible and is still necessary in some cases.[...]"
2458[20:44:59] <kroussenq> trbo: replaced-url
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2461[20:45:47] <trbo> yeah i know the difference tho :D just not sure how to do it in lvm, i'll figure it out
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2467[20:48:57] <Wyzard> trbo, I've been using GPT on everything for years. Anything modern should support it, so there's little reason not to.
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2472[20:50:02] <Wyzard> Even systems that don't use EFI can boot Debian from GPT if you create a "BIOS boot partition" (which can be tiny -- 1MB is more than enough)
2473[20:50:07] <Walakea> did you observe any large speedup when compiling projects using /dev/shm?
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2476[20:51:13] <RoyK> trbo: why create a 2TB partition?
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2479[20:51:38] <RoyK> trbo: if you're going to use the whole drive, you don't need partitions
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2482[20:52:49] <Wyzard> You don't *need* partitions if you're using the whole disk, but it's safer to create a whole-disk partition so that other things (e.g. liveCDs, recovery tools, other OSes) won't think that the disk is unused and offer to create a partition table
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2487[20:53:44] <petn-randall> You need a partition table if you want to boot from it, though.
2488[20:53:50] <kroussenq> jmcnaught: are you here ?
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2490[20:54:35] <trbo> i'd prefer to use partitions as it's protective as Wyzard said
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2492[20:55:10] <kroussenq> jmcnaught: replaced-url
2493[20:55:19] <Wyzard> trbo, apt install gdisk
2494[20:55:23] <Wyzard> That's the GPT equivalent of fdisk
2495[20:55:49] <trbo> ty Wyzard :)
2496[20:55:50] <Wyzard> You can also use something like gparted, though I don't really like gparted
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2506[20:59:15] <jmcnaught> kroussenq: i'm leaving now but I would look into line 15 of your paste. good luck
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2512[21:00:38] <RoyK^> petn-randall: yeah, but I wouldn't setup a system with a single 3+TB drive :P
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2785[21:19:30] <Meerkat> Does 'dpkg --get-selections "*"' print all the packages installed?
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2797[21:21:04] <kroussenq> What package does the suspend / sleep / hibernate in Debian stretch?
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2809[21:22:35] <APLU> Meerkat: prints more than just installed, also print package with rc status
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2812[21:23:03] <APLU> Meerkat: dpkg -l|head -n-5|grep -c ^ii => 2783 installed package
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2815[21:23:25] <APLU> Meerkat: dpkg --get-selections '*'|wc -l => 2852
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2832[21:25:23] <APLU> kroussenq: with a fresh install with systemd you can use systemctl suspend/hibernate
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2847[21:31:32] <kroussenq> APLU: with systemctl suspend - Window manager warning: Failed to set power save mode for output LVDS-1: Pemissao negada
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2849[21:31:44] <kroussenq> *permission denied*
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2853[21:32:41] <kroussenq> Aug 6 16:30:26 debian kernel: [ 9481.452194] __pnp_bus_suspend(): tpm_pm_suspend+0x0/0x220 returns 38
2854[21:32:43] <kroussenq> Aug 6 16:30:26 debian kernel: [ 9481.452199] dpm_run_callback(): pnp_bus_suspend+0x0/0x20 returns 38
2855[21:32:45] <kroussenq> Aug 6 16:30:26 debian kernel: [ 9481.452203] PM: Device 00:01 failed to suspend: error 38
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2860[21:33:47] <AnnieTheEagle> I'm having issues with gpg right now. gpg: keyserver receive failed: No keyserver available - Google doesn't seem to give me too much in terms of assistance.
2861[21:33:49] <APLU> hum.. I don't know so.. I use suspend only on a remote nas at home..
2862[21:33:59] <AnnieTheEagle> No matter what keyserver I try :/
2863[21:34:20] <kroussenq> I'm thinking it's because ACPI from Macbook 1.1 :/
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2866[21:35:18] <APLU> AnnieTheEagle: gpg --keyserver hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys abcdef? (with a valid key id)
2867[21:35:59] <APLU> kroussenq: try it as root, if it works it's not acpi .. if it still failed might be acpi
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2870[21:36:55] <APLU> kroussenq: from your paste, yes it seem to be a device that refuse to suspend (full dmesg might be more usefull)
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2874[21:38:11] <AnnieTheEagle> DBG: dns: getsrv(_pgpkey-http._tcp.pool.sks-keyservers.net): Connection refused
2875[21:38:24] <AnnieTheEagle> APLU: Looks like my local DNS server is busted.
2876[21:38:31] <AnnieTheEagle> (This is a Stretch upgrade over Jessie)
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2882[21:39:25] <APLU> AnnieTheEagle: I've upgraded from wheezy to stretch, gpg still works here :)
2883[21:39:37] <AnnieTheEagle> Ah! I fixed it.
2884[21:39:44] <APLU> ah?
2885[21:39:45] <AnnieTheEagle> I added "standard-resolver" to my dirmngr.conf
2886[21:40:08] <AnnieTheEagle> What is the "default DNS" of Debian, is there a way to reinstall it? :o
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2893[21:41:26] <APLU> I don't have any dirmngr.conf… (but package is installed)
2894[21:41:53] <AnnieTheEagle> For me it's in ~/.gnupg/dirmngr.conf
2895[21:41:54] <tharkun> ps aux -> user 13755 10.4 16.3 2752972 334516 tty2 Sl 10:10 28:04 firefox-esr it is running a single video a test page which contains nothing and thats it. How can I debug this isue?
2896[21:43:12] <tharkun> ps aux-> user 13816 32.4 55.4 3559476 1130856 tty2 Sl 10:10 88:15 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/plugin-container -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 13755 true tab
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2900[21:44:30] <APLU> AnnieTheEagle: I don't have that (only gpg.conf).. and files inside your home aren't managed by package, can be copied from /somewhere by software at (first?) run
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2910[21:47:59] <AnnieTheEagle> APLU: Urgh, yeah it's still broken
2911[21:48:10] <AnnieTheEagle> Usually at this point I just pull the plug and reinstall the server :P
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2923[21:53:32] <APLU> AnnieTheEagle: maybe try with a fresh ~/.gnupg (mv ~/.gnupg ~/.gnupg.bak) if it still broken
2924[21:54:21] <APLU> if yes, might be dns resolver broken, firewall somewhere
2925[21:54:48] <AnnieTheEagle> How can I reinstall the dns resolver
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2934[21:58:28] <BluesKaj> I set my dns nameservers in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, if your OS has that file ...works fine
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2941[22:01:00] <BluesKaj> dunno much about older debians and servers
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2945[22:02:14] <petn-randall> Errr ... I believe most programs still use /etc/resolv.conf.
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2967[22:14:13] <BluesKaj> petn-randall, I decided to use it after reasding this replaced-url
2968[22:14:19] <LinuxLiaison> DebConf?
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2971[22:16:00] <petn-randall> LinuxLiaison: Do you want to add a few more words to your question?
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2974[22:17:01] <petn-randall> LinuxLiaison: Or to keep it short: yes
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3104[23:29:06] <LtL> +
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3111[23:35:37] <xormor> so I am compiling the Linux kernel.
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3113[23:36:21] <xormor> I already compiled it once, assumably successfully, but I had forgotten out the patches, applied them and am now recompiling. I did not even reboot without the patches.
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3130[23:41:04] <xormor> how do I make the .deb packages again, from a compiled kernel?
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3133[23:42:08] <petn-randall> xormor: "make deb-pkg" or "make bindeb-pkg"
3134[23:42:14] <tharkun> !ssb
3135[23:42:14] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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3143[23:44:44] <xormor> petn-randall, thanks.
3144[23:44:48] <shtrb> Is there a main debconf channel ?
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3147[23:45:04] <xormor> tharkun, was that for me?
3148[23:45:30] <ee1> Hello people. How do I open a .PDF file debian? -'o-
3149[23:45:37] <xormor> tharkun, I might use backports, but I want to change the code of the kernel eventually and make my own version. I might leave out drivers, etc.
3150[23:45:48] <shtrb> debconf17.debconf.org/schedule for live
3151[23:45:52] <petn-randall> shtrb: #debconf on OFTC
3152[23:45:58] <shtrb> thanks
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3155[23:46:28] <petn-randall> !pdf
3156[23:46:29] <dpkg> Portable Document Format (PDF) is a file format for document exchange, designed by Adobe as a replacement for <PostScript>. Free software to view PDFs include <xpdf>, <okular>, <evince> (all poppler based) and gv, kghostview (ghostscript-based, much slower!). Adobe Reader (acroread) is available from deb-multimedia in non-free; ask me about <dmm>. See also <edit pdf>, <pdf writer>. replaced-url
3157[23:46:31] <petn-randall> ee1: ^^^
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3159[23:47:18] <ee1> petn-randall: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 i did this
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3161[23:48:00] <ee1> What am I supposed to do then? I downloaded atril as viewer
3162[23:48:12] <petn-randall> ee1: apt install evince
3163[23:48:18] <tharkun> xormor: add salt, pepper and your favourite editor to get the package you need. :)
3164[23:48:33] <petn-randall> ee1: There's no need to download a PDF viewer from other sources, Debian already comes with pretty much all you need.
3165[23:48:38] <shtrb> eel , what de are you using ?
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3167[23:48:50] <shtrb> *DE
3168[23:48:56] <ee1> And still it can't open a simple .PDF file for me ;D
3169[23:49:07] <shtrb> eel , I use okular
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3171[23:49:11] <tharkun> xpdf
3172[23:49:17] <ee1> I'm not on mate, mate. I'm on lxde
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3174[23:50:08] <ee1> petn-randall: evince seems to be installed.
3175[23:50:14] <ee1> rebooting just to be sure
3176[23:50:32] <petn-randall> ee1: No need to reboot. What happens if you try to open the PDF with evince?
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3183[23:51:56] <ee1> Unable to open document
3184[23:51:57] <ee1> petn-randall:
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3186[23:52:13] <ee1> File type plain text document is not supported
3187[23:52:16] <petn-randall> ee1: Are you sure it's a PDF?
3188[23:52:36] <petn-randall> ee1: If you run 'file <nameofpdf>' on the terminal, what output do you get?
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3190[23:54:19] <ee1> petn-randall: bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
3191[23:54:44] <petn-randall> ee1: Sounds like you mistyped something.
3192[23:55:02] <petn-randall> ee1: file yourfile.pdf
3193[23:55:29] <ee1> petn-randall: /file/<filename> ?
3194[23:55:52] <ee1> shtrb: downloading okular
3195[23:56:06] <petn-randall> ee1: Yes, you can use tab-completion so you don't need to type it all out.
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3200[23:58:06] <ee1> petn-randall: Tab-completion?
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3203[23:58:47] <ee1> petn-randall: Whatever, I'm sure the file is a .pdf file, just need to open it.
3204[23:58:48] <petn-randall> ee1: "file" is the command. Just pass it the name of your file.
3205[23:59:04] <ee1> aha
3206[23:59:14] <petn-randall> ee1: If evince says "plain text document is not supported" is likely *not* a PDF.
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3208[23:59:31] <ee1> So if there was 2 documents inside the file it would type both?>
3209[23:59:33] <petn-randall> I'm guessing it's a plain text file, but we can verify that with the file command.
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3211[23:59:42] <xormor> tharkun, "make deb-pkg"
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