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8[00:04:09] <usam> How do I simply plot a function in Octave
like f(x)=x ?
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10[00:05:02] <gunchyo> turns out persistent journal wasn't
on...
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32[00:12:52] <rant> they say hindsight is 20/20 but only if you
turn around
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33[00:13:04] <stfart> Hi, Im getting started with debian, and
Im trying to make an update at the terminal but it tells me E: No se
pudo encontrar el método /usr/lib/apt/methods/https. N:
¿Está instalado el paquete apt-transport-https?
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34[00:13:20] <gunchyo> this makes me anxious
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35[00:13:24] <gunchyo> why would it just cut out?
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37[00:13:54] <stfart> what should i do then?
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38[00:14:02] <dax> stfart: you have one or more repositories
enabled that are over HTTPS. install the package apt-transport-https
to be able to use those
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39[00:14:05] <dax> sudo apt install apt-transport-https
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40[00:14:24] <rant> stfart: well here's a starterr tip,
use LANG=C or such when pasting errors
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47[00:15:57] <rant> though for people who do speak spanish..
the error tells you how to fix it
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54[00:18:36] <SuperTramp83> yep, it says 'is apt-t-h
installed?' x_X
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61[00:20:06] <rant> best not to use lauguages if "ya ni
punyamo"
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63[00:20:46] <UUID00> what could be the reason behind TCP
offloading causing issues?
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64[00:20:51] <rant> though sometimes people are not used to
software being so well designed its error messages are obvious
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65[00:20:58] <UUID00> on 2 different NICs
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68[00:24:14] <stfart> thanks it worked but its still telling
theres an error
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70[00:24:58] <stfart> W: Fallo al obtener
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73[00:25:48] <SuperTramp83> remove the ppas
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84[00:34:53] <metastable> And don't use Ubuntu PPAs with
Debian.
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86[00:34:57] <metastable> !frankendebian
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87[00:34:57] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can
convince ##linux to help.
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99[00:41:32] <rant> stfart: you really need to export LANG=C
when you paste errors into an English channel.. you're only
hurting yourself by pasting stuff in Spanish.. you're just
lucky those of us looking in right now speak Spanish
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101[00:41:47] <SuperTramp83> right.. buguntu ppas..
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109[00:47:22] <asarch> Can you do smartcl --test=long on a USB
3.0 stick?
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111[00:48:37] <rant> you can do it on a french toast stick..
doesn't mean its a good idea or will have productive results
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114[00:49:39] <rant> doing any sorts of tests on flash media
would only inherently make any situation worse.. and afaik they dont
have SMART typically
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115[00:49:55] <rant> can use badblocks or such
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116[00:50:10] <vutral> apropos badblocks
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117[00:50:26] <vutral> can ext2 store badblocks somewhere in the
filesystem?
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120[00:51:34] <asarch> I bought two 64GB USB 3.0 and now that I
wan to recover my data, I'm having a lot of splicing errors
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121[00:51:50] <asarch> *memory drives
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123[00:52:45] <asarch> fsck -fyv on one of them: Unattached
inode 1837368. Connect to /lost+found? yes
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124[00:53:00] <asarch> Inode 1837368 ref count is 2, should be
1. Fix? yes
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185[01:22:12] <mirak> hi
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186[01:22:36] <mirak> is there a way to automatically run a
script after a package executed ?
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188[01:22:46] <mirak> installed I mean
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190[01:22:55] <mirak> a specific package
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199[01:27:31] <plasm0duck> morning
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226[01:39:37] <ircdiaosi> diaosi
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343[02:43:09] <anoobis> is this debian?
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344[02:43:28] <krabador> not, Amiga Workbench.
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346[02:43:45] <anoobis> I was told to find debian
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349[02:44:21] <krabador> where do you search it?
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350[02:44:41] <dax> krabador: don't confuse people plz :(
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351[02:44:45] <anoobis> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
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357[02:49:02] <jvava> hi, could you please help me merge my two
partition, one is root partition, another is swap partition
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359[02:50:46] <jvava> come on men, a real problem
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360[02:50:56] <salamitactics> Use gparted? Just delete the swap
partition and extend the root over where it used to be
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363[02:51:17] <krabador> do you want del one , and merge space
to other ?
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364[02:51:24] <jvava> yes
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365[02:51:36] <krabador> gparted on live session
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366[02:52:05] <jvava> is it secure enough, salamitactics, I am
new to gpartd very much
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372[02:53:15] <salamitactics> As long as you give it the correct
instructions then yes. Obviously there is always small risk with
disk partitioning though. Don't lose power during operation and
don't accidentally delete the wrong partitions and you will be
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373[02:53:22] <krabador> jvava: if you've a good psu , a
good mobo and good connection cables, you can do this operstion in
gparted , in 2 click
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374[02:53:56] <jvava> except that, how can I tell boot not try
the deleted swap partition
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375[02:54:06] <jvava> krabador, sound nice
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376[02:54:08] <salamitactics> Edit your /etc/fstab file
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377[02:54:15] <salamitactics> comment out the swap line
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378[02:54:31] <jvava> I do, but now still have swap used
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379[02:54:56] <krabador> jvava: menage your partition on live
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381[02:55:30] <salamitactics> Yes, you need to update your
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383[02:55:45] <jvava> got it, I will try, thank you very much
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385[02:57:22] <jvava> salamitactics, sorry, I dont know what
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389[02:58:08] <salamitactics> shorthand for "if I recall
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394[03:00:31] <jvava> salamitactics, thank you
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395[03:00:57] <salamitactics> np. I ran into the same issue
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466[03:50:55] <jonnydepp> Hey! I come from Kali Linux, after a
disaster with freetype that broke my fonts I tried downgrading it
and eventually in a last desperate try I broke the entire system,
after being so shocked on how a os that use debian testing repos can
become I decided to stop using kali
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467[03:51:06] <jonnydepp> I never liked Debian I don't know
why
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468[03:51:28] <jonnydepp> I went to Bunsen for a while because I
wanted a system with low impact on resources
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469[03:52:11] <jonnydepp> but still I like xfce and need some
xfce features so I planned to have xfce on bunsen and use it only
when connected to power (main reason why I wanted low impact on
resources is battery)
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470[03:52:29] <mnuhmnuh> jonnydepp: you never really learned how
to use it, i'd guess. takes a long time, much study to do it
right.
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471[03:52:51] <jonnydepp> but I didn't like xfce
integration with themes, I was used to something better in kali
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472[03:53:01] <jonnydepp> mnuhmnuh what are you talking about?
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474[03:53:23] <mnuhmnuh> "I never liked Debian I don't
know why"
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475[03:53:35] <jonnydepp> xfce version was quite old to me on
jessie so finally I went on Debian Stretch thig night, I'm
quite happy to see the same look as Kali on XFCE(quite surprised)
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476[03:53:57] <jonnydepp> mnuhmnuh that's a long story I
don't like mainstream product
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478[03:54:45] <jonnydepp> mnuhmnuh I used for a year and half
opensuse that I was forced to use Kali and learned aptitude, apt,
dpkg and so on and then started using Debian related distros, never
went back to opensuse or rpm related stuff
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479[03:55:19] <jonnydepp> what I wanted to say is I'm happy
to switched to Debian, to be finally able to talk on the channel
without having people pissed of because I was using some other
distro related to Debian
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480[03:55:38] <jonnydepp> and I look forward to the future to
see what Debian will become as I want a stable long-lasting OS
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481[03:55:50] <mnuhmnuh> jonnydepp: philosophy. bleeding edge
newest bells and whistles, or rock solid, brick shithouse stable. i
prefer the latter. as does debian.
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482[03:56:05] <jonnydepp> Please don't mess up with things
and keep a good system no matter what happen, have a good job, that
was the message I wanted to say
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484[03:56:35] <jonnydepp> mnuhmnuh same opinion
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485[03:57:04] <jonnydepp> reason why I dropped kali if only I
knew before it was using debian testing and it would have ended like
so, at the least I had a rsync full backup
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491[04:01:59] <Rukus> hey. I'm a mint user usually. I tried
out Manjaro, but I'm not sure I want to relearn a terminal... I
have old hardware, would I be best suited for debian stable? Friends
keep recommending debian-stables because latest updates. I think I
shouldt care and install stable. But I cant understand theri
suggestions completely
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492[04:02:18] <Rukus> err friends keep recommending
debian-testing
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493[04:02:19] <Rukus> oops
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494[04:03:25] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: i recc. testing, for user boxes,
not servers.
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495[04:03:29] <salamitactics> Honestly if you want to never have
to use the terminal and always have the latest updates I would go
with ubuntu
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498[04:04:05] <Rukus> I dont mind the terminal tbh.
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499[04:04:27] <Rukus> I's looking at debian because I
already run two pi's with raspbian based OS's on them
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500[04:04:35] <mnuhmnuh> terminal is a feature. hold your nose
and learn to use it.
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501[04:04:35] <Rukus> err I'm
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504[04:05:34] <Rukus> mnuhmnuh, what would i be missing out on
if i went stable instead of testing tho? would LM 18.2 be most
equivalent to debian-stable?
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505[04:05:50] <Rukus> as for latest updates etc
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507[04:06:24] <salamitactics> So in stable generally packages
don't get feature updates, just security. So you will be using
long term support releases of firefox, for example
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509[04:06:29] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: philosophy. bleeding edge newest
bells and whistles, or rock solid, brick shithouse stable. i prefer
the latter. as does debian.
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510[04:06:32] <salamitactics> Ubuntu gets around this with snaps
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512[04:07:31] <Rukus> mnuhmnuh, is testing considered stable? or
just bleeding edge newest bells and whistles?
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513[04:07:53] <Rukus> which I wonder how necessary that is to
have on 7 year old hardware
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514[04:07:55] <annadane> it's a matter of opinion but
generally, even debian unstable is pretty stable
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515[04:08:00] <annadane> not that i recommend it necessarily
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516[04:08:24] <annadane> (ubuntu is based off of debian
unstable)
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517[04:08:42] <Rukus> that opens a new perspective for me
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518[04:08:59] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: no. sid/experimental is dev,
testing is testing (stuff comes from dev), stable is production;
server level stability, no/few surprises.
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519[04:09:05] <annadane> stable's obviously very solid but
of course you don't get new software until the next stable, and
releases are 2 years apart, if you don't compile or backport
your own
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520[04:09:32] <Rukus> hmmm. you're all making this make
sense now
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521[04:09:57] <mnuhmnuh> you want new, run slackware (also very
good).
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522[04:10:16] <annadane> actually even debian unstable gets
quite far behind arch
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523[04:10:31] <Rukus> well, if there is something I have learned
about myself. I dont mind having to fix things some time, but
sometimes i dont have the time and do mind
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524[04:10:53] <random_numbers> The no dependency-resolution
thing is what kept me from trying slackware.
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525[04:10:55] <annadane> testing is a happy medium between the
two, basically
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526[04:10:58] <Rukus> i'm trying out Manjaro currently
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527[04:11:31] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: better to have more than one
box; one to play and learn with, the other to rely on.
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528[04:12:12] <Rukus> mnuhmnuh yeah. its been annoying having my
main comp in limbo
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532[04:13:13] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: you could put one on usbkey and
boot from it, leaving primary choice on hd.
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533[04:13:46] <Rukus> mnuhmnuh, very true. live usb runs quite
well
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534[04:14:06] <mnuhmnuh> me == tail + testing, respectively.
ymmv.
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535[04:14:15] <mnuhmnuh> tails
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536[04:14:22] <Rukus> I'm just wondering if there is a step
towards something different/greater from Linux Mint (which I
normally run)
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537[04:15:01] <annadane> i mean, depends on what you want...
mint is based off ubuntu which is based off debian which is renowned
as one of the most stable distros
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538[04:15:20] <annadane> may as well go to the source... also
has things like the debian free software guidelines and social
contract
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539[04:15:54] <annadane> debian does not come with anything non
free by default, you have to add it yourself
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541[04:16:25] <Rukus> i presume there is a user repo for such
software?
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542[04:16:41] <Rukus> i guess I "do" like some things
easy
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543[04:17:10] <annadane> yeah, there is. you just add contrib
and non-free to the line in your sources.list
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544[04:17:22] <Rukus> oh, like mint
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545[04:17:24] <annadane> there's also an image with non
free firmware if you need it during installation
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546[04:17:33] <Rukus> i better just stick to what i know
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547[04:17:39] <mnuhmnuh> annadane: yabut /usr/local is for
self-added. methinks people ought to learn both debian and slack.
right tool for right job.
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548[04:17:47] <Rukus> i mean move from manjaro to debian
unstable
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549[04:17:57] <annadane> up to you... just keep backups
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551[04:18:08] <annadane> see also
replaced-url
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552[04:18:49] <Rukus> thanks
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553[04:19:05] <mnuhmnuh> wtf is unstable?!?
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554[04:19:24] <mnuhmnuh> :-P
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556[04:20:57] <Rukus> so, would you partition /boot 255mb, /
30GB, /home etcGB /swap Ram=GB
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557[04:21:26] <Rukus> or is it better to use onbe large
partition? I'm asking because mint forgot where my bootloader
is
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558[04:21:30] <Rukus> and i'm not sure why
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559[04:22:08] <salamitactics> well it can be nice to have a
separate home partition. and sometimes annoying. Config files can
carry over pretty well between distros but ymmv (e.g. firefox
settings)
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561[04:23:39] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: /, /tmp, and /var are important
ones. balance of space for /home.
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562[04:24:33] <Rukus> I guess I've never realized what goes
on behind the scenes of my install tbh
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563[04:24:51] <Rukus> ie: proper partitioning
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565[04:25:48] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: /boot needn't be separate
except if you're doing raid or complex cryptosystem stuff.
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566[04:26:30] <morenoh149> deb noob here. How do I determine the
latest path I should use for adding a deb line?
replaced-url
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567[04:26:53] <morenoh149> if I simply browse
replaced-url
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568[04:27:10] <morenoh149> if I load
replaced-url
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569[04:27:41] <morenoh149> I would expect it to be
replaced-url
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572[04:29:08] <mnuhmnuh> morenoh149: that's not debian. no
idea what they offer.
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574[04:30:32] <annadane> morenoh149,
replaced-url
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575[04:30:45] <Rukus> mnuhmnuh, would debian-testing be about as
user friendly as antergos?
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576[04:30:47] <annadane> morenoh149, don't use external
websites
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577[04:30:49] <Rukus> or manjaro
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578[04:31:10] <annadane> !tell morenoh149 about stretch
sources.list
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579[04:31:57] <mnuhmnuh> Rukus: never used either of them.
testing is quite friendly and stable in my experience.
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580[04:32:00] <annadane> ,v elasticsearch
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581[04:32:02] <judd> Package: elasticsearch on amd64 --
jessie-security: 1.0.3+dfsg-5+deb8u1; jessie-backports:
1.6.2+dfsg-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.7.5-1
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584[04:32:12] <annadane> !tell morenoh149 about ssb
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585[04:32:42] <morenoh149> ,v kibana
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586[04:32:43] <judd> No package named 'kibana' was
found in amd64.
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587[04:32:49] <annadane> morenoh149,
replaced-url
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588[04:32:50] <mnuhmnuh>
replaced-url
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589[04:32:56] <morenoh149> ,v logstash
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590[04:32:57] <judd> No package named 'logstash' was
found in amd64.
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591[04:33:23] <salamitactics>
replaced-url
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592[04:33:49] <salamitactics> Avoid articles, likely to use
outdated links to repos. Go right to the source, read their
documentation
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600[04:39:06] <mnuhmnuh>
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602[04:40:04] <Rukus> Thanks for all the good talk guys, I think
before I move onto debian quickly, that I'm going to giuve
manjaro a chance first. then maybe try out debian on another
machine.
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606[04:40:36] <annadane> you heretic!
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607[04:40:38] <annadane> :P
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617[04:43:06] <mnuhmnuh> i named a box heretic once. infidel,
unbeliever, absenseofmalice, ... # ot, sry. eof.
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670[05:27:07] <kavelot> does anyone know some debian based Live
CD that comes with basic firewall (something like block inbound for
instance) activated by default?
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672[05:27:42] <SirLagz> kavelot: doesn't ubuntu have
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673[05:27:56] <SirLagz> kavelot: otherwise, it's not too
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674[05:28:06] <kavelot> SirLagz: their doc says it comes with
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679[05:29:26] <SirLagz> kavelot: why not just set default policy
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686[05:31:08] <kavelot> yeah, I guess I was looking for some
hardened debian-based distro
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687[05:31:22] <kavelot> there's Tails, but you can't
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949[09:58:22] <rakor> Is it a problem to change the shell of
'root'?
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952[09:58:39] <rakor> I know systems that might behave strange
when changed
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957[10:03:35] <dutchfish> rakor, well, i dont believe denying a
shell would cause harm. But i know for sure, that user root is
needed for alot of purposes.
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959[10:04:03] <dutchfish> rakor, user != shell
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962[10:06:07] <rakor> I don't like bash so I would like to
change the shell. Having a nice shell when switching with su
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963[10:06:13] <dutchfish> rakor, denying parts to root can be
helpfull to further seucre a system (no ssh login by root as an
example)
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964[10:06:23] <dutchfish> rakor, dash is the default now not
bash
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967[10:06:55] <dutchfish> rakor, also read about sudo
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968[10:06:57] <rakor> # echo $SHELL
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969[10:06:59] <rakor> /bin/bash
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970[10:07:12] <rakor> I don't like sudo
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971[10:07:14] <klys> it's only used for login purposes
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972[10:07:21] <klys> so like, /etc/profile
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973[10:07:38] <dutchfish> rakor, `ls -la /bin/bash` ;)
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975[10:08:03] <rakor> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1,1M Mai 15 21:45
/bin/bash
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976[10:08:11] <rakor> running stable
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977[10:08:37] <mr__tea> francais rakor ?
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978[10:08:45] <rakor> no
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979[10:09:55] <dutchfish> rakor, correct now `ls -la /bin/sh`
thats what used by root most of the time. (example: update)
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980[10:11:00] <rakor> Thats what used most times for scripts...
But I want to change the interactive shell (chsh)
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981[10:11:29] <dutchfish> rakor, i understand. But i just wanted
you to know this and delve into it.
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982[10:11:57] <rakor> ok thanks
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983[10:12:05] <rakor> So chnging would be ok?
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984[10:12:29] <rakor> Scripts will still use /bin/sh (what ever
lives behind)
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985[10:12:58] <dutchfish> rakor, for most purposes, yes. But as
i said delve into it. Alot of scripts mix it up and proclaims that
bash is the standard. It is not (any longer).
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987[10:13:59] <dutchfish> rakor, the correct way is to use the
systems softlink /bin/sh. If your userland obeys that, i see no
problem in denying a shelll for root.
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988[10:15:22] <dutchfish> rakor, this might be different on
non-debian systems
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989[10:16:29] <rakor> sure I use bsd on other systems, and there
it could get trouble changing the shell of root. (But there I have
csh as option and no bash).
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990[10:16:42] <dutchfish> right
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991[10:16:47] <rakor> Thats why I asked especially for debian
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992[10:17:02] <rakor> I don't know the system ver well yet
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993[10:17:09] <dutchfish> rakor, np
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994[10:17:19] <rakor> thanks
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1012[10:26:27] <dutchfish> rakor, oh one more, thing. The debian
installer (in expert mode during install) has an option to
accomplish that effordless. ie disable root login. But then sudo is
the only option left to get root access.
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1014[10:27:09] <rakor> Oh no. I really like 'su' and
try to avoid 'sudo'. ;)
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1015[10:27:13] <whatthefuk> DONGS DONGS DONGS
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1016[10:27:15] <whatthefuk> FUCK YOU ALL
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1018[10:27:44] <whatthefuk> d
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1019[10:27:44] <whatthefuk> s
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1020[10:28:16] <dutchfish> rakor, i dont know if that would work
for su. I know that using su on a debian system, can get you into
trouble, because of missing path's.
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1024[10:29:12] <rakor> Till now I had no problems. Just adjustet
$PATH to have /root/bin in it. 'su' reads bashrc
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1025[10:29:23] <dutchfish> rakor, correct
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1026[10:29:32] <whatthefuk> hello fuckers. fuck you all,
fucked-up fucking motherfuckers
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1028[10:29:48] <mr__tea> whatthefuk: fuck you too
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1029[10:30:00] <whatthefuk> mr__tea: LOL DONGS
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1030[10:30:05] <shpingrlde> /ignore
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1031[10:30:06] <whatthefuk> thats what your mom sucked
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1032[10:30:38] <mr__tea> :)
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1034[10:31:03] <dutchfish> mr__tea, dont feed the trolls ;)
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1035[10:31:23] <whatthefuk> dutchfish: why should I not feed your
mom?
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1036[10:31:27] <mr__tea> dutchfish: hehe
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1037[10:31:32] <whatthefuk> she isn't *that* fat yet
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1038[10:31:39] <annadane> !ops ^
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1039[10:31:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: annadane
complains about a problem (see above)
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1040[10:31:49] <dutchfish> ty
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1044[10:33:40] <whatthefuk> !ops fuck fuck fuck a duck, screw a
kangaroo, gang-bang an orangutan, at the Homo Zoo!
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1045[10:33:40] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: whatthefuk
complains about a problem (see above)
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1071[10:55:21] <Ormu1> I'm getting this when trying to run
some 32-bit games with Wine...
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1073[10:55:51] <Ormu1> I tried to install
xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 but it would require removal of many
packages which seem important
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1076[10:56:45] <Ormu1> I'm using wine-development from
official repos on Stretch
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1077[10:57:47] <babilen> Games .. reason to ruin your box since
1996
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1078[10:57:57] <babilen> You sure you don't just need the
32bit gl libs?
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1079[10:58:39] <Ormu1> not sure. i965-dri.so was mentioned so i
thought about the X11 driver lib
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1082[11:00:52] <LioneLL> dosbox
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1083[11:02:33] <Ormu1> yeah. But I'd need to install
Win98/Win95 on it, and how does DirectX stuff work on Dosbox?
Anyway, what 32-bit GL libs are those? libgl1-mesa-glx:i386, for
example, is already installed.
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1093[11:09:59] <Ormu1> hm, going to try the non-development
version of Wine in the repos. After that, I'll probably reboot
to Windows
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1095[11:14:19] <Ormu1> and the same problem occurs as yesterday:
searching for "wine32" in Synaptic does not return the
package wine32:i386
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1103[11:16:02] <Ormu1> yep, same problem on non-development Wine.
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1106[11:17:53] <XeonSquared> I've seen that issue with Steam
before I think...
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1110[11:19:17] <Ormu1> yeah, many google results are related to
Steam and the solutions involve symlinking some Steam-specific
versions of certain lib files
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1111[11:19:27] <XeonSquared> Yeah, that's not very useful,
sorry.
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1115[11:21:23] <Ormu1> I could compile latest Wine from sources,
but I doubt that would solve anything, and it's a big mess to
install all the build deps and stuff.
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1134[11:37:38] <Ormu1> ok, solved. The required package was
libgl1-mesa-dri:i386. Could someone explain why is it not listed as
a dependency for wine32 ?
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1142[11:42:08] <UH7294> is there a way to install pkgs on an
airgapped debian machine in a similar way to apt-get install, i.e.
with all dependencies?
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1144[11:42:47] <UH7294> i imagine a tool that fetches the
necessary packages/dependencies, stores them on a removable drive
and then lets me install the files on the airgapped machine from
that removable drive?
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1146[11:45:28] <patterson> You could use the install images
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1173[12:05:03] <zackbrown> hi folks! is there a way to bring a
debian system to a pristine state? I.e. it leaves everything in
/home alone, but brings everything else to a standard state from
which to upgrade / add and remove packages / etc ?
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1189[12:14:42] <Vizva> zackbrown
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1191[12:15:53] <nkuttler> zackbrown: reinstall, don't wipe
the home partition, or just restore it from backups
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1194[12:16:46] <nkuttler> i'm doing that right now after
tinkering with fixing a broken encrypted lvm setup..
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1196[12:17:23] <zackbrown> nkuttler: thanks
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1199[12:17:37] <Vizva> but better play in from backup
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1201[12:17:47] <Vizva> instead of no baackup and mess it up
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1205[12:18:15] <nkuttler> yeah, if you don't have backups
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1206[12:19:04] <zackbrown> I guess reinstalling will be a last
resort. Right now I'm noticing on my system "gpg"
with no arguments produces a segfault. I think that's
interfering with regular apt updates
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1273[12:55:03] <jorg-33704> test
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1307[13:11:21] <thecliguy> I'm using mlterm on Debian 9 - I
can't figure out how to copy and paste. Ideally I'd like
to use ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v.
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1308[13:11:24] <thecliguy> Is it the responsibility of mlterm to
implement these shortcuts or is this configured elsewhere in Debian?
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1310[13:11:38] <cybrNaut> i think i've been misusing the
release tags in the bug tracker, e.g. adding "tags -1
stretch" when the bug is found in stretch. From the docs, it
seems I should only do that if it's a bug that is newly
introduced in stretch, correct?
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1313[13:13:29] <cybrNaut> that is, old bugs shouldn't get
the "stretch" tag, i'm thinking, even if the bug is
present in stretch
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1328[13:19:58] <wuwq> The folder content could not be displayd,
you do not have the permissions.... How do i fix this?
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1351[13:27:56] <Maelstorm> hi guys
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1354[13:28:00] <Maelstorm> newbie here
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1355[13:28:02] <Maelstorm> :)
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1356[13:28:05] <cybrNaut> wuwq: man chmod
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1359[13:29:38] <nix64bit> i have to run this each time I use npm,
is there a way to make it always so? script to run "nvm use
node"
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1365[13:31:09] <wuwq> how do i gain user permissions to edit and
save files? It's so frustrating i'm the only user but
i'm still asked for permissions everytime
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1367[13:31:54] <flipper8827> I have a fresh installation of
Strecth and an old blue tooth Microsoft multimedia keyboard, on
which I can not get any of the hot keys. I.e play,stop,pause and
pthers working
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1368[13:32:45] <flipper8827> I'am running strecth with the
xfce4 desktop environment
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1370[13:33:30] <cybrNaut> wuwq: the directory needs /execute/
permission and /write/ permission, and then the file you want to
edit needs write permission
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1371[13:34:01] <cybrNaut> wuwq: the chmod command will change the
permissions
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1372[13:34:16] <wuwq> also i don't get it why when i open as
root a folder i'm asked for the user password and not root
password
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but often root does not have a password, and in fact cannot login,
in which case a user account must have sudo permission to act as
root
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1469[14:21:05] <sadasas> hi
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1470[14:21:26] <sadasas> have a problem mpc process freeze
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1473[14:21:42] <sadasas> how i cat this event?
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1474[14:21:48] <sadasas> please help
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1475[14:21:50] <sadasas> :(
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1476[14:21:51] <dTal> have you tried turning it off and on again
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1478[14:22:51] <sadasas> i need to catch in automation
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1480[14:22:56] <sadasas> restart
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1489[14:26:56] <philamonster> strace -tfp [PID]
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1490[14:27:00] <philamonster> sadasas,
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1536[14:53:39] <jorg-33704> test
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1545[14:57:36] <MickyW> Hello. I am unable to figure out, why
smartd does not write to log files (i.e. /var/log/messages or
/var/log/syslog or any other file in /var/log) out of my
configuration - which is: "DEVICESCAN -d removable -n standby
-m root -M exec /usr/share/smartmontools/smartd-runner".
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1548[14:58:30] <MickyW> Having read the man page I have no clue
why nothing is written. I would expect regular entries about
attribute changes.
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1570[15:12:11] <g0zzy> Very queer stuff going on with cdrdao. Got
a 15 track disk and it's been reading it to file for almost 5
hours and it's still not even finished track 11. Only a couple
of days ago i ripped all 15 tracks to wav in just a few minutes with
ripperx. What going on do you think?
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1571[15:12:54] <Zharf> corrupted and/or copy protected disc
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1587[15:17:53] <kfedora> hi guys trying to boot a 32 bit xfce
debian 9.2.1 iso on a hp mini 210 laptop but I am stuck at
device-enumerator scanning /sys/class calling settle
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1589[15:18:55] <g0zzy> Zharf: But how did it change in just one
day?
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1590[15:19:44] <Zharf> oh you're ripping the same disc?...
well, did you scratch it? :)
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1592[15:19:58] <Zharf> (why are you doing it twice though?)
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1593[15:20:33] <g0zzy> I very much doubt it. Doing it twice
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1594[15:21:22] <MickyW> Hm. Seems smartd does not run at all. -
Thank you for reading.
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1597[15:21:55] <g0zzy> kfedora: is it optical or usb?
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1598[15:22:39] <kfedora> g0zzy: usb I set it to acpi=off debug
verbose and now it is detecting network hardware 0% something is
wrong with the acpi on the device
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1599[15:23:12] <kfedora> it says something like we need four
parameters but we get five or something if I boot normally
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1601[15:23:47] <kfedora> the only network on this thing is a
broadcom wifi chip I think?
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1604[15:24:22] <dvs> ugh, broadcomm
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1605[15:24:47] <g0zzy> I'd probably bin it ;)
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1611[15:28:04] <kfedora> haha
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1612[15:28:08] <kfedora> :(
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1614[15:28:29] <kfedora> can i skip this detecting network
hardware?
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1628[15:38:35] <UZ632> hi. when i boot debian, i want it to boot
into a shell, not into a display manager like lightdm. is there a
more elegant way to achieve this other than probably uninstalling
lightdm?
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1629[15:38:57] <UZ632> also, how can i select which DE debian is
supposed to use when I start a DE with startx?
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1631[15:40:08] <mtn> UZ632: you can turn off lightdm, or any
other dm, without uninstalling it.
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1633[15:40:47] <kfedora> better than nothing I guess
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1634[15:40:56] <mtn> UZ632: to start a desktop using startx, you
need to edit .xinitrc. if the debian wiki doesn't help with
that, the arch wiki will
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1635[15:41:19] <dvs> !tell kfedora about firmware iso
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1636[15:41:28] <UZ632> mtn: alright, will check out the xinitrc
and the wiki; thanks!
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1637[15:41:38] <mtn> UZ632: welcome
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1638[15:41:57] <UZ632> btw why does xfce4 have its own xinitrc?
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1639[15:42:10] <UZ632> i have one in /etc/x11/xinit and one in
/etc/xdg/xfce4
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1640[15:42:50] <mtn> UZ632: you need to have an xinitrc in your
home directory. those are just templates
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1644[15:43:43] <UZ632> ahh ok, i will look into that then :)
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1645[15:45:50] <sadasas> not i need
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1646[15:46:22] <sadasas> have a problem mpc process freeze how i
catch this event on raspberry pi3?
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1661[15:56:52] <Wulf> Hello. How can I automatically start
applications when I login into the GUI (currently gnome)?
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1666[15:57:56] <gpunk> go to tweak-tools
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1668[15:58:16] <gpunk> or adjustments
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1669[15:58:38] <gpunk> there is a tab for startup applications
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1670[15:58:52] <Wulf> gpunk: is there no file I can put some
commands into, not related to gnome?
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1672[15:59:52] <gpunk> from what I see, I guess not
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1673[16:00:11] <sadasas> gpunk help me?
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1674[16:00:25] <gpunk> strace
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1675[16:00:31] <gpunk> and see where it hangs
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1676[16:00:41] <gpunk> starce -f mpc ...
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1677[16:00:46] <gpunk> strace*
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1678[16:01:13] <teraflops> Wulf: you can achieve that by several
ways
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1679[16:01:32] <sadasas> but not stop but freeze
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1681[16:01:52] <Wulf> teraflops: got a list somewhere?
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1682[16:01:54] <gpunk> yes,
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1683[16:02:13] <sadasas> remaning up but don't listen..
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1684[16:02:23] <sadasas> i need to restart in this case
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1687[16:04:12] <sadasas> i need to controll example time of
sequenze
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1688[16:04:12] <teraflops> Wulf: if you're using GMD you can
launch things from ~/.xprofile you can also symlink .desktop files
into ~/.config/autostart or /etc/xdg/autostart too
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1689[16:04:17] <sadasas> and i restart
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1690[16:04:32] <sadasas> ???
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1691[16:04:49] <teraflops> Wulf: and you can also use gnome tweak
tool
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1702[16:08:16] <joeel84> Do you guys know what all the
laptop-mode-tools package does? Will it have a major impact on
battery life?
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1708[16:11:07] <gpunk> sadasas: strace -p $PROCESSID
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1712[16:12:17] <Nitrogen> Greetings! I have a .txt with over 5000
strings organised like this:
replaced-url
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1713[16:12:18] <sadasas> i don't see it pid process
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1714[16:12:31] <gpunk> ps aux| grep mpc
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1716[16:12:41] <usam> joeel84:
replaced-url
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1721[16:14:03] <gpunk> what are you calling mpc, xhat are you
using it for ?
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1731[16:15:44] <sadasas> strace -p 20212
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1732[16:15:44] <sadasas> strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH,
...): No such process
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1734[16:15:51] <sadasas> but exsist
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1735[16:16:08] <gpunk> what are you calling mpc, what are you
using it for ?
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1738[16:16:18] <sadasas> yes
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1739[16:16:48] <sadasas> ps aux| grep mpc
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1740[16:16:49] <sadasas> pi 22771 0.0 0.2 4276 2012 pts/1 S+
16:16 0:00 grep --color=auto mpc
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1742[16:17:05] <gpunk> there is no mpc running
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1743[16:17:12] <gpunk> that s just your grep ...
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1744[16:17:24] <gpunk> try mpd ?
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1745[16:17:24] <sadasas> strace -p 22771
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1746[16:17:24] <sadasas> strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH,
...): No such process
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1747[16:17:34] <sadasas> mpd always up
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1748[16:17:38] <sadasas> demon standlone
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1751[16:18:12] <gpunk> copy and paste your 'ps aux' in
pastebin ...
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1753[16:18:23] <sadasas> without grep?
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1754[16:18:24] <sadasas> ok
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1755[16:18:28] <gpunk> yes
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1756[16:18:56] <sadasas> from root
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1758[16:18:58] <sadasas> or pi ?
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1760[16:19:02] <gpunk> pi
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1764[16:19:49] <sadasas>
replaced-url
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1765[16:19:56] <sadasas> or want top?
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1769[16:21:12] <gpunk> no, thnx
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1770[16:21:30] <gpunk> your mpc is not running anymore, all you
see is a ghost window
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1771[16:21:33] <gpunk> you can close it
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1772[16:21:39] <gpunk> or xkill it
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1774[16:22:02] <joeel84> usam: Thanks!
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1775[16:22:25] <sadasas> but i listen music
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1776[16:22:26] <sadasas> now
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1777[16:22:36] <sadasas> is running
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1779[16:23:14] <sadasas> now is running
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1780[16:23:38] <sadasas> but i have this problem not now . Now i
listen
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1781[16:23:52] <sadasas> but my problem is this gost window
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1782[16:23:53] <gpunk> it s mpd that is streaming to your sound
card
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1783[16:23:58] <sadasas> yes
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1784[16:24:05] <gpunk> so restart mpd
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1785[16:24:14] <sadasas> but controller mpc now is good
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1786[16:24:31] <sadasas> 474498.mp3
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1787[16:24:31] <sadasas> [playing] #22/28 1:10/3:50 (30%)
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1788[16:24:31] <sadasas> volume: 82% repeat: on random: on
single: off consume: off
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1789[16:24:33] <sadasas> is true
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1790[16:24:38] <flux242> you can use xprop to get info about an x
window
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1791[16:25:00] <sadasas> flux problem now is up
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1792[16:25:06] <sadasas> but in some case
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1793[16:25:18] <sadasas> process remaning up but not listen..
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1794[16:25:27] <sadasas> this event i need to catch and manage
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1795[16:25:30] <gpunk> yes, that s life
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1796[16:26:06] <flux242> ghost windows and zombi processes.
Matrix has you
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1798[16:27:03] <sadasas> yes how i catch ?
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1799[16:27:18] <sadasas> please i exit crazy
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1800[16:27:19] <sadasas> :)
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1804[16:28:37] <gpunk> i already tald you
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1807[16:29:41] <sadasas> fork^?
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1808[16:30:04] <sadasas> i do not need to close window
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1809[16:30:12] <sadasas> i need to fetch in automation
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1810[16:30:14] <sadasas> bash script
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1811[16:30:15] <sadasas> :(
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1812[16:30:36] <gpunk> you find the mpc process and you starce it
with -p
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1813[16:30:43] <gpunk> strace*
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1814[16:30:49] <sadasas> not find
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1815[16:30:55] <gpunk> well, sorry
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1816[16:31:10] <sadasas> i haven't pid mpc
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1819[16:31:19] <gpunk> me either :)
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1820[16:31:40] <sadasas> :(
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1822[16:31:43] <sadasas> please
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1824[16:33:00] <gpunk> mpc sends commands to mpd and exits, thats
why you dont see it
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1825[16:33:53] <sadasas> ok and how i catch problem to freez mpd?
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1827[16:34:09] <gpunk> strace -p $PIDOFMPD
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1830[16:34:33] <gpunk> or if it has logs ...
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1831[16:34:38] <gpunk> look at the logs
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1833[16:35:00] <sadasas> but in need a instantanly solution
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1834[16:35:03] <sadasas> in realtime
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1835[16:35:09] <sadasas> for continous stream..
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1836[16:35:16] <gpunk> strace -p $PIDOFMPD
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1842[16:36:52] <sadasas> have respond big
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1843[16:36:57] <sadasas> that i need?
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1844[16:37:03] <sadasas> to see if work?
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1845[16:37:25] <gpunk> be my guest
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1847[16:38:40] <sadasas> ??
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1849[16:39:00] <gpunk> that means do what ever you want :)
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1851[16:39:34] <sadasas> :) i need to see if working or ghost
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1852[16:39:36] <sadasas> :)
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1853[16:39:41] <sadasas> ?
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1858[16:41:02] <gpunk> you hear music ?
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1863[16:41:52] <kfedora> dvs: I downloaded the non-free firmware
iso which is almost 4GB and it is still stuck on the detecting
network hardware screen
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1866[16:42:39] <sadasas> not i have process
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1867[16:42:42] <sadasas> but not listen
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1868[16:42:47] <sadasas> mpd process have
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1869[16:42:54] <sadasas> but not listen
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1870[16:43:02] <sadasas> is ghost now how i catch?
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1871[16:43:12] <gpunk> strace -p $PIDOFMPD
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1872[16:43:21] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install
drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP
mode.. lmk ty.
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1873[16:43:44] <sadasas> yes i have some information
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1874[16:43:49] <dvs> kfedora, what Broadcom chip is it?
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1876[16:44:24] <sadasas> but not hunderstand
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1877[16:44:51] <sadasas> ??
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1883[16:46:06] <gpunk> c0untch0cula what kernel do you have ?
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1884[16:46:58] <dvs> kfedora, then skip network detection and try
to get it working after the install
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1886[16:48:02] <gpunk> I dont know parrot OS, this is debian
channel ...
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1888[16:48:29] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install
drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP
mode.. lmk ty.
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1890[16:48:40] <c0untch0cula> Parrot is based on Debian's
testing branch (stretch), with a custom Linux 4.13.0 kernel. It
follows a rolling release development model.
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1891[16:48:40] <kfedora> dvs: how do I skip it without using
expert install?
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1892[16:48:56] <dvs> kfedora, press ESC?
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1893[16:49:04] <gpunk> yes , this is not the proper channel then
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1894[16:49:07] <kfedora> pressing esc doesn't do anything
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1895[16:49:30] <dvs> kfedora, then I don't know.
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1896[16:49:38] <kfedora> maybe i died?
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1897[16:49:40] <kfedora> *it
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1899[16:49:46] <c0untch0cula> gpunk, no idea then?
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1902[16:50:02] <gpunk>
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1904[16:51:16] <c0untch0cula> tried that
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1905[16:51:21] <ilyaigpetrov> In Debian how edge node could one
go -- could I, e.g., install latest repositories (made for ubuntu)
from kde plasma team (that they use in KDE Neon)?
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1906[16:51:35] <c0untch0cula> it had errors after i did
"sudo make"
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1907[16:51:38] <ilyaigpetrov> s/edge node/bleeding edge
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1908[16:52:04] <gpunk> c0untch0cula the driver is already in the
kernel since version 4.2
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1909[16:52:25] <c0untch0cula> so the dongle might not support AP
mode?
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1910[16:52:43] <gpunk> yes , double check with the vendor's
site
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1915[16:56:40] <ilyaigpetrov> Are PPA used only in Ubunty or may
they be used in Debian?
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1922[16:59:34] <petn-randall> ilyaigpetrov: PPAs are Ubuntu-only,
and we don't recommend nor support any users to use PPAs.
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1923[16:59:38] <petn-randall> !frankendebian
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1924[16:59:38] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can
convince ##linux to help.
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1928[17:00:17] <petn-randall> ilyaigpetrov: If you want newer
software, there is stretch-backports for that.
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1933[17:03:14] <rawruw> can I downgrade from systemd to system v
init?
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1935[17:04:09] <petn-randall> rawruw: You can switch from systemd
to sysv init on any stable release of Debian.
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1937[17:04:39] <rawruw> petn-randall: nice :D
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1939[17:04:48] <petn-randall> !stretch sysvinit
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1940[17:04:48] <dpkg> To replace systemd with sysvinit in
stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and
reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install
runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init",
and reboot again.
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1942[17:05:10] <petn-randall> rawruw: See above, it's quite
easy. I wouldn't recommend it in any way, though.
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1943[17:05:34] <rawruw> thanks :D. Well, I'm working with
old people so to speak.. all their systems are old and they refuse
to upgrade
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1944[17:06:26] <petn-randall> rawruw: If they're running
stretch, their system isn't *that* old.
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1947[17:08:22] <rawruw> stretch?
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1948[17:08:40] <petn-randall> rawruw: What OS and release are you
running?
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1949[17:09:58] <rawruw> petn-randall: debian I thought, but I
just realized that it's ubuntu.. so I can't install
sysvinit-core :(
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1950[17:10:17] <petn-randall> rawruw: Ah, then you're in the
wrong channel.
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1951[17:10:19] <petn-randall> !ubuntu
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1952[17:10:19] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not
Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on
chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less
helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on
#debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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1953[17:10:26] <petn-randall> rawruw: Try the one above. ^^^
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1954[17:10:37] <rawruw> ubuntu simply doesn't run system v
init
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1955[17:10:44] * petn-randall shrugs.
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1956[17:10:52] <petn-randall> rawruw: I wouldn't know, I
don't run Ubuntu.
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1957[17:11:33] <rawruw> I'm not a fan of ubuntu but I had an
ubuntu machine laying around
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1958[17:11:39] <rawruw> lying*
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1963[17:15:42] <Ormu1> :O
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1964[17:15:43] <rawruw> (not crossposting.. comparing distros..).
If I mount an USB-device with ext3 and on it have a shell binary
with +setuid and owner root.. and then run that program... Will I
then get root access? :3
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1965[17:16:06] <jolt> rawruw: I would assume yes, due to the
setuid
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1967[17:16:19] <Ormu1> any MIDI specialists here? What soundfont
set would provide results closest to that of Windows MIDI interfaces
(or something like that, I'm unsure about terminology)?
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1996[17:30:26] <dutchfish> Ormu1, tried the package
fluid-soundfont-gm ?
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1997[17:31:06] <petn-randall> rawruw: If the admin allows you to
mount ext3 partition without uid mapping, they're already
putting a lot of trust in you. Anyways, if you have physical access
to a machine, I could probably count a few dozen ways to get root on
the machine. It's really hard to defend against.
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1998[17:31:07] <rawruw> is setuid really a problem though?
isn't that pre-configured to be protected against already?
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2000[17:31:34] <Ormu1> dutchfish: I tried freepats first and it
was not perfect. I'm going to try that next
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2001[17:31:39] <petn-randall> rawruw: IIRC any users mounted
partition are mounted with nosuid, nodev, etc.
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2003[17:31:59] <petn-randall> s/users/user/
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2006[17:32:47] <dutchfish> Ormu1, that soundfont along with
qsynth, gave me the best results.
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2007[17:33:02] <Ormu1> hm
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2016[17:35:07] <dutchfish> Ormu1, i use rtkit, rosegarden,
cadence and qsynth orchastrated with jackd on 192Khz rate
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2017[17:35:19] <Ormu1> :o
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2019[17:35:36] <Ormu1> sounds professional, I'm using just
Timidity + Pulseaudio now :P
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2020[17:35:59] <rawruw> need to reset passwords.. I've
forgotten them all. root dir mounted. What do I do now? :p set the
password field in shadow to an empty string?
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2021[17:36:01] <dutchfish> Ormu1, that works but timidity on a
normal kernel is a tat off
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2026[17:39:02] <petn-randall> rawruw: If you're running
Ubuntu, you're still in the wrong channel. Pleas ask in
#ubuntu.
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2028[17:39:53] <rawruw> petn-randall: im on debian now
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2029[17:40:10] <rawruw> why are people assuming things.
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2031[17:40:20] <n4dir> !chroot
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2032[17:40:20] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to
your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console
(Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2
/dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable
with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none
/target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then
chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
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2036[17:40:27] <n4dir> and reset the root password
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2037[17:40:45] <teraflops> by reset they mean: passwd
root…
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2038[17:41:11] <n4dir> after chroot you are root, so a simple
"passwd" should do.
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2039[17:41:26] <rant> haven't used -t in ages it seems to
auto detect well now
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2040[17:41:27] <kfedora> i tried both the debian dvd and the
non-free firmware dvd and in both cases I can't get past the
detect network part and I can't press escape to get out of it
hp mini 210
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2060[17:48:26] <dutchfish> kfedora, you need a firmware package,
you can feed it during install with a usb stick
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2083[17:55:57] <petn-randall> rawruw: I'm not assuming
anything. You said earlier you're using Ubuntu.
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2087[17:56:58] <petn-randall> !fmrp
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2088[17:56:58] <dpkg> If you've forgotten the <MySQL>
root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables;
mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET
Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE
User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld;
/etc/init.d/mysql start See also
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2090[17:57:17] <petn-randall> !frp
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2091[17:57:17] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit
the kernel setting in the grub command line (add
'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your
root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4)
'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6)
'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1)
'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift
while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux
init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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2092[17:57:23] <petn-randall> rawruw: ^^^
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2103[18:01:05] <Fannar> Excuse me everyone, just excersising my
freedoms here.
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2104[18:01:25] <Fannar> Such hyptocrits.
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2107[18:02:37] <rawruw> Fannar: ?
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2112[18:03:56] <Fannar> Bunch of assclowns dragging me into their
shit.
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2115[18:05:02] <RoyK> Fannar: do you want to talk about this?
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2117[18:05:34] <teraflops> not here please
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2119[18:05:59] <RoyK> teraflops: perhaps not ;)
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2121[18:06:23] <Fannar> I have the freedom to use whatever linux
distrobution i like with out fear or reproach or ridicule
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2127[18:08:00] <RoyK> Fannar: I daresay noone has doubted that
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2128[18:08:25] <rawruw> I just installed sysvinit-core. Am I not
running systemd now, but initv? or is systemd just wrapping initv?
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2130[18:08:55] <indistylo> cinnamon crashing into fallback mode
after pacman -Syu
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2134[18:09:37] <Fannar> It's dogma. These two parties need
to figure this out and leave me out of it.
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2135[18:09:40] <Fannar> I will continue to use my freedoms
whatever flavor they may be.
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2136[18:09:45] <Fannar> Nuff said.
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2137[18:09:46] <RoyK> Fannar: except me, of course, I have this
little motel and all visitors must login in a terminal with
slackware 2.1 and fvvm2 and prove they can understand the OS before
they are allowed a room
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2139[18:10:37] <n4dir> rawruw: pretty sure you do run sysv, not
system wrapping around sysv (my reasoning is that you can apt-get
remove systemd, and it will still work)
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2140[18:11:21] <teraflops> rawruw: type pgrep systemd if you see
a "1" at the top, youre running systemd
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2141[18:11:49] <areyouloco> whats wrong with franken-debian? i am
running this monster and everything is fine
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2142[18:12:28] <dTal> ...for now...
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2143[18:12:31] <areyouloco> I think the key is good apt-pinning
and thats it
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2144[18:12:34] <teraflops> areyouloco: Frankenstein is cool,
it's just frankendebian is not supported here and youre on your
own
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2145[18:12:53] <areyouloco> teraflops: I am always on my own
inside my head
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2146[18:13:12] <rawruw> teraflops: it prints 1724, that's
not exactly not running :P
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2147[18:13:55] <areyouloco> Does installing one package out of
the stable/testing repo automatically makes a frank?
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2149[18:14:46] <dvs> areyouloco, yes because it's going to
install more than one package.
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2159[18:17:10] <teraflops> not always, but you know…
people cannot stop there and they always install more packages
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2164[18:17:25] <OS-32195> ANICK PaHUEllo
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2167[18:18:03] <n4dir> rawruw: pgrep -l systemd ; will also list
the process name. Might be worth a try
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2168[18:18:03] <teraflops> OS-32195: I wonder if youre a bot, I
have my logs full of nonsense like that
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2172[18:18:49] <rawruw> n4dir: I get output, but I don't
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2174[18:19:14] <n4dir> yeah, that is some stuff needed for
"whatever", but not the init system, as far i can tell
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2176[18:19:37] <rawruw> I'm using systemvinit now and.. I
want to puke.
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2177[18:19:45] <teraflops> rawruw: what's your goal?
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2178[18:19:59] <rawruw> teraflops: working on an old server, they
refuse to upgrade.
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2181[18:20:37] <teraflops> rawruw: why dont you start by the
beginning?
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2182[18:20:46] <rawruw> teraflops: "updating" myself on
it. Though I'll just write some applications for it.
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2183[18:20:47] <teraflops> I mean explaining your issue
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2184[18:21:05] <rawruw> teraflops: I'm just avoiding gotchas
by learning about systemv
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2185[18:21:15] <rawruw> sysvinit*
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2189[18:21:34] <rawruw> there's nothing much to it.
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2193[18:21:48] <Fannar> don't test me.
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2194[18:21:51] <Fannar> frankly do not care
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2195[18:22:02] <rawruw> Fannar: >:(
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2197[18:22:21] <Fannar> I X 3 0
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2208[18:32:17] <lhx> any particular reason vscode isn't
packaged for sid yet?
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2210[18:33:06] <RoyK> !debian next
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2212[18:33:18] <RoyK> !sid
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2213[18:33:18] <dpkg> from memory, sid is the codename for
<unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys.
The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to
keep ALL the pieces!!
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2219[18:34:57] <jelly> RoyK: you can /msg dpkg stuff, to find out
if it's useful before letting the bot write about it in channel
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2220[18:36:11] <RoyK> jelly: I know, but I was thinking of
telling lhx about using the other chanel
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2222[18:37:20] <thecliguy> There's another Debian channel?
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2224[18:38:25] <RoyK> thecliguy: there's #debian-next on
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2225[18:38:53] <jelly> lhx: someone has to do the work, and
someone could ask for its inclusion first via a WNPP
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2226[18:39:05] <jelly> judd: bug wnpp vscode
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2227[18:39:06] <judd> Sorry, no wnpp bugs were found.
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2229[18:40:11] <jelly> !rfp
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2230[18:40:11] <dpkg> Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask
for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See
replaced-url
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2231[18:40:42] <n4dir> jelly: and someone able to package it
(maintainer, developer ) needs to have interest to do it :-)
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2232[18:40:51] <jelly> lhx: but apparently noone's done such
a request so for
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2251[18:55:31] <lhx> thanks... i'll look into making a
request
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2298[19:19:31] <rawruw> I just downgraded to systemvinit. is the
logging system no longer systemd now?
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2300[19:20:15] <jhutchins> rawruw: You should revert to dmesg and
syslog.
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2301[19:20:33] <jhutchins> rawruw: Both of which are also
supported with systemd, so they should be in place.
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2302[19:20:52] <rawruw> jhutchins: dmesg and syslog are the old
logging systems?
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2349[19:45:39] <crcrcr> how can i check if a driver is working?
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2385[20:05:24] <mar77i> hello #debian. I'm writing a script
to set up our infrastructure, and I don't want to be using curl
-k to download an important script. however, I noticed the
installation doesn't have common certificates installed. do you
happen to know what package they're in?
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2392[20:08:55] <teraflops> mar77i: ca-certificates
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2394[20:09:00] <crcrcr> can i create a xorg.conf file if i
don't have one?
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2396[20:09:09] <teraflops> ,v ca-certificates
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2397[20:09:09] <judd> Package: ca-certificates on amd64 --
wheezy: 20130119+deb7u1; jessie: 20141019+deb8u3; stretch:
20161130+nmu1; buster: 20170717; sid: 20170717
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2399[20:09:34] <teraflops> crcrcr: you usually do not need one
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2400[20:09:46] <towo`> crcrcr, what makes you think you need an
xorg.conf file?
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2403[20:10:44] <crcrcr> i'm trying to configure a special
usb device
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2408[20:12:01] <crcrcr> i have to add some lines in my xorg.conf
file but i don't have one
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2409[20:12:21] <teraflops> crcrcr: write a snippet
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2410[20:12:40] <crcrcr> snippet?
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2412[20:13:19] <teraflops> crcrcr: yeah containing only the lines
you need and you drop it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
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2414[20:14:49] <crcrcr> i don't have xorg.conf.d either
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2418[20:15:37] <teraflops> mkdir it
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2421[20:16:47] <teraflops> iirc .d folder was a debian idea, I
wonder why there's no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d in debian
installations
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2426[20:18:25] <crcrcr> there's one in usr/share/x11
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2427[20:18:27] <rawruw> /etc/inittab contains
"/etc/init.d/rc 1" .. but there's no rc file in that
dir
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2431[20:19:04] <crcrcr> but i'm not sure it's the same
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2432[20:19:19] <towo`> crcrcr, is not
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2433[20:19:27] <towo`> and don't edit files there
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2434[20:19:30] <phogg> teraflops: surely not, it dates from
sysvinit's introduction does it not?
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2435[20:19:31] <teraflops> you want /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
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2436[20:19:34] <jelly> rawruw: which debian release is this
supposed to be?
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2438[20:20:04] <towo`> crcrcr, if there is a file, you want to
edit, copy it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
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2441[20:20:49] <crcrcr> should i create the folder?
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2443[20:20:58] <towo`> sure
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2448[20:21:42] <towo`> teraflops, xorg.conf.d was not a debian
idea, it is an idea from upstream
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2451[20:22:11] <teraflops> towo`: I meant .d folders concept not
xorg one specifically
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2452[20:22:29] <teraflops> and maybe I'm wrong
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2471[20:25:26] <OS-33284> /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
<email-address>
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2481[20:27:19] <teraflops> ಠ_ಠ
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2523[20:49:34] <muser> hi
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2529[20:50:23] <ZSky> Is it a problem connectin my server via SSH
with a password (and not with private/public key ssh-keygen)?
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2530[20:50:31] <ZSky> What are the possible security problems?
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2531[20:50:50] <metastable> ZSky: The security of your system is
entirely dependent on the quality of your password.
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2533[20:51:33] <Wulf> ZSky: why? Don't use passwords!
Thanks.
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2534[20:51:42] <mspo> a key + passphrase is two-factor :)
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2535[20:51:49] <mspo> a password is one
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2538[20:52:31] <mspo> does debian have a blacklistd-compiled
sshd? that would help
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2539[20:52:44] <mspo> (fail2ban kind of sucks but is decent
compared to nothing)
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2540[20:52:56] <rawruw> jelly: never mind, I'm a retard. The
rc script is there
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2548[20:54:19] <teraflops> sshguard is a thing too
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2553[20:55:47] <ZSky> metastable: let's say I have a 12
alphanumeric characters generated with a CSPRNG
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2559[20:56:28] <ZSky> metastable: what is potential problem, and
how does RSA pub / pvt solve it?
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2565[20:57:15] <teraflops> metastable: using passwords itself is
a weakness
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2568[20:57:43] <ZSky> teraflops: how does using a PUB/PVT rsa key
solve it?
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2571[20:57:54] <ZSky> (I understand how RSA works, the maths in
it, etc.)
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2572[20:58:14] <teraflops> I wasn't talking about that
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2576[20:59:28] <ZSky> teraflops: what do you mean?
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2580[21:00:04] <teraflops> e.g smart cards
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2598[21:00:54] <ZSky> teraflops: what do you use for your own
SSH?
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2599[21:01:00] <teraflops> yubikey
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2600[21:01:03] <ZSky> prv/pub key?
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2601[21:01:06] <teraflops> yep
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2602[21:01:31] <ZSky> what happens if you loose your yubikey?
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2603[21:01:40] <ZSky> or if your child breaks it?
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2608[21:02:17] <teraflops> i grab another one
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2609[21:02:34] <ZSky> teraflops: so your key is stored somewhere
else?
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2610[21:02:44] <ZSky> where?
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2617[21:03:14] <teraflops> yeah, you can do it several ways, from
paper to a copy inside a safe
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2620[21:03:40] <ZSky> i need to totally change my security
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2621[21:03:42] <teraflops> but yeah, that's the idea,
private key is inside the smart card
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2626[21:03:56] <ZSky> i can't remember all these passwords
anymore
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2629[21:04:05] <annadane> keepassx?
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2632[21:05:01] <ZSky> annadane: there's a master password
for it, right?
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2633[21:05:09] <teraflops> ZSky: indeed, and I hate when you
forget a passwd/it expires and you cannot use old ones :P
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2634[21:05:10] <annadane> yep
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2635[21:05:32] <ZSky> annadane: if someone knows the master
password, all passwords are exposed?
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2636[21:06:09] <teraflops> that's the idea, you unlock the
db with a master passwd
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2637[21:06:14] <ZSky> hum ok
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2642[21:06:26] <annadane> i actually don't know much about
keepassx but it wouldn't surprise me if it itself used 2fa
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2643[21:06:39] <annadane> or if you have an option
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2644[21:07:15] <ZSky> Isn't there a plain file solution?
like inside Sublime Text with a plugin that would encrypt?
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2645[21:07:52] <teraflops> annadane: it has a plugin iirc
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2647[21:08:10] <annadane> i mean, if you're just worried
that you'll forget the password, come up with something you
won't forget, like a passphrase instead of a random collection
of numerals
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2650[21:08:25] <annadane> like xkcd's "correct horse
battery staple"
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2652[21:08:43] <teraflops> smartcard + pin looks same if you ask
me
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2653[21:08:47] <teraflops> saner^
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2654[21:09:00] <ZSky> annadane: yeah this xkcd is cool
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2661[21:10:47] <JohnFeerx> Hi
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2662[21:10:57] <Ael> HELLO.
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2663[21:11:04] <ZSky> Hy
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2666[21:11:06] <mspo> ZSky: the private key is something you
have, plus the passphrase is something you know
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2667[21:11:06] <JohnFeerx> spanish?
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2669[21:11:09] <annadane> !es
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2670[21:11:10] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en
Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en
Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join
#debian-es en la línea de chat.
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2671[21:11:14] <mspo> ZSky: a password is just something you know
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2836[21:17:49] <hiya> Can anyone here try to connect to
"irc.mozilla.org" with SSL in hexchat? It does not work
for me. I see that it is some ciper suite issue
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2840[21:18:39] <Satou> Hey guys, I have a problem with network
manager. It overrides a mac address i generate upon bootup (created
a script in init.d).
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2842[21:18:50] <annadane> hiya, works for me
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2845[21:19:02] <Kobaz> having trouble upgrading... insserv:
Starting stop-bootlogd depends on rmnologin and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
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2846[21:19:13] <hiya> I get * Connection failed (SSL handshake
timed out)
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2848[21:19:15] <Kobaz> ...dist-upgrade
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2849[21:19:24] <annadane> Kobaz, stable?
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2850[21:19:29] <Kobaz> yeah
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2851[21:19:32] <hiya> Anarchic: which version of hexchat?
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2852[21:19:48] <annadane> 2.12.4 - i'm on sid
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2854[21:21:12] <hiya> annadane: I am on stretch
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2855[21:21:16] <hiya> I think there is some issue
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2856[21:21:24] <matrix_architect> hiya, you have to allow wrong
ssl certificate to enter
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2857[21:21:32] <matrix_architect> check the box
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2859[21:21:52] <Ormu1> dutchfish: fluid-soundfont-gm seems to be
pretty good
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2860[21:21:55] <Ormu1> thanks
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2864[21:23:09] <annadane> Kobaz, maybe provide your entire output
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2865[21:23:11] <annadane> !paste
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2866[21:23:11] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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2867[21:23:38] <Kobaz> annadane: i temporarily moved
/etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd and i'm now able to upgrade
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2869[21:24:06] <annadane> found
replaced-url
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2870[21:24:06] <Kobaz> annadane: basically i get errors upgrading
any package... there's just like an in-between distros problem
at the moment
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2871[21:24:27] <Kobaz> major upgrades will do that.... (squeeze
-> wheezy)
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2872[21:24:35] <annadane> if you google it, it seems to be a
pretty common problem
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2873[21:24:42] <Kobaz> right, yeah
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2875[21:24:53] <Kobaz> i'll see what happens when everything
is upgrades, if i put the file back and i still have issues
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2879[21:25:23] <annadane> well, be cautious about upgrading +
rebooting if you moved init
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2880[21:25:28] <annadane> because things may not start
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2881[21:25:39] <Kobaz> who said anythign about moving init
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2883[21:25:49] <Kobaz> i moved stop-bootlogd, which is a shutdown
script
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2885[21:25:50] <annadane> moving a component within /etc/init.d,
i mean
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2886[21:25:55] <annadane> ah, okay
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2887[21:26:01] <Kobaz> it's pretty innocuous
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2888[21:26:06] <annadane> that's fine then
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2889[21:26:18] <Kobaz> bootlogd will just get kill -9'd at
the end
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2896[21:27:54] <Kobaz> now for the fun part, upgrading 100 perl
modules
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2900[21:30:14] <rawruw> so there's no "global"
script that runs at boots and a corresponding one at shutdown?
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2902[21:30:22] <rawruw> omfg.. never mind.
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2903[21:30:30] <Kobaz> rc.local
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2904[21:30:34] <rawruw> I wanted to ask this level 2-5 are for
multi-user levels. Is there a rule of thumb here of when
they're runned?
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2905[21:30:37] <rawruw> and thanks Kobaz
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2906[21:30:51] <Kobaz> rc.local is kind of your autoexec.bat of
yore
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2907[21:30:56] <rawruw> what does rc stand for?
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2910[21:31:24] <Kobaz> resource i believe
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2911[21:31:45] <rawruw> is it dist specific, does it belong to a
specific init system?
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2912[21:31:48] <Kobaz> and use /etc/rc.local... not
/etc/init.d/rc.local
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2913[21:31:50] <Kobaz> sysvinit
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2914[21:32:02] <Kobaz> it's debian's own spin on a
user-defined startup script
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2915[21:32:09] <Kobaz> other distros can be different
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2918[21:32:27] <Kobaz> sysvinit doesn't define a standard
for that as far as i know
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2920[21:32:37] <rawruw> ok thanks
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2923[21:33:05] <Kobaz> for custom shutdown, you're better
off putting something special in /etc/rc0 etc
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2924[21:33:22] <Kobaz> because your going to want to hook into
shutdown prior to killall -9
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2928[21:35:29] <rawruw> I looked into the K10halt script (last to
run) in rc0.d/. So the following must happen somewhere else since I
didn't see that in that script: sending a "normal"
kill signal to all processes and waiting for the services (the other
K-scripts) and other processess to terminate before killall -9.
Where's that happening?
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2930[21:36:56] <Kobaz> its been a while since i dove into the
details
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2931[21:37:03] <Kobaz> half itself probably does the final all
process kill
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2932[21:37:09] <AndrewPRS> hi there guys!! anyone knows of any
utility to rip the audio contents of a dvd?
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2933[21:37:16] <AndrewPRS> to flac
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2934[21:37:21] <Kobaz> adrenaline: k3b
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2935[21:37:27] <Kobaz> convert to wav, and then convert to flac
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2936[21:37:48] <AndrewPRS> with avconv?
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2937[21:37:57] <AndrewPRS> or which tool do you recommend?
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2939[21:38:11] <Kobaz> sox can convert to flac
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2941[21:38:18] <Kobaz> sox track_01.wav track_01.flac
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2942[21:38:29] <Kobaz> there's also:
replaced-url
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2943[21:38:34] <towo`> there are no tracks on a dvd
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2945[21:38:49] <Kobaz> ooooh dvd, my eyes glanced over that part
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2946[21:39:02] <Kobaz> AndrewPRS: dvd... you're getting into
dvdcss most likly
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2948[21:39:12] <AndrewPRS> yes, I have my pink floyd DVD and want
to store its audio in flac
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2950[21:40:00] <Kobaz> AndrewPRS: if it's a movie with
associated soundtrack you just rip the whole thing and then
you'll have a file with both... use handbrake to extract out
the audio stream
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2952[21:40:33] <AndrewPRS> its not, its a DVD which contains some
high quality audio in it
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2953[21:40:36] <hiya>
replaced-url
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2954[21:40:43] <hiya> I am effected by this issue
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2955[21:40:48] <Kobaz> plain dvd-audio... not sure then
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2956[21:40:56] <AndrewPRS> s/effected/affected
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2958[21:41:24] <AndrewPRS> Kobaz, no problem thanks anyways
I'll search a bit more on google ;)
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2972[21:48:25] <AndrewPRS> does anyone know a nice UPnP sever?
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2975[21:52:23] <Kobaz> AndrewPRS: you can try and see if k3b will
do dvd-audio
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2980[21:54:04] <AndrewPRS> Kobaz, nice idea! I will
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2981[21:54:13] <AndrewPRS> I might try handbrake as well
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3011[22:10:54] <jhutchins> towo`: Yes, DVDs can have tracks.
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3017[22:12:23] <teraflops> DVDs have chapters
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3020[22:13:07] <jhutchins>
replaced-url
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3021[22:13:07] <jhutchins>
replaced-url
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3022[22:13:09] <jhutchins>
replaced-url
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3024[22:13:24] <jhutchins> teraflops: There's more than one
standard that can be used.
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3025[22:13:36] <teraflops> a video file has audio track or tracks
but that's not related to DVDs only
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3026[22:14:28] <teraflops> from what I understood from AndrewPRS
issue this is a standar DVD video disc
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3027[22:14:43] <teraflops> vlc can do what he wants btw
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3028[22:14:50] <teraflops> he/she/ey
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3030[22:14:56] <jhutchins> teraflops: I thought he said it was a
high-def audio disk on a DVD medium.
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3031[22:15:06] <teraflops> oh, I missed that
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3034[22:15:53] <earthian_> hello, does anybody know what this
kswapd0 process is doing with all the IO and CPU when there is like
120mb of ram and no swap or with swap?
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3035[22:16:01] <jhutchins> There are some oddball formats out
there where people have tried to improve on the audio of the
standard CD Audio format.
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3036[22:16:16] <earthian_> My system usually get's almost
frozen during that time..
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3043[22:17:17] <areyouloco> hi. anybody knows how do I search for
avaliable source packages by name. i mean the same like you do
apt-cache search pidgin. but i want to see what sources I have
avaliable
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3046[22:17:53] <teraflops> earthian_: mind telling us hardware
specs of that machine or … thing?
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3047[22:18:26] <earthian_> It is a lenovo x240 laptop with intel
core i5 and 8 gigs of ram
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3048[22:18:36] <earthian_> two ssds
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3054[22:22:41] <jhutchins> areyouloco: The Debian repositories
should have source packages that match the binary packages.
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3055[22:22:46] <jhutchins> !source
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3056[22:22:46] <dpkg> As an overview: to work with Debian source
packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a
location with free space; download the source package with
<apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use
<dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details,
also ask me about <package recompile> <backport>
<nmg> <policy> <source package>
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3057[22:22:55] <earthian_> basically when the free memory is
getting low, kswapd0 process kicks in and almost freezes the system
with high IO wait and CPU times. I would expect an OOM killer do
some work there when the machine is out of memory, but freezing is
totaly a bug
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3060[22:24:26] <earthian_> Linux eanb 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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3062[22:24:52] <areyouloco> jhutchins: thanks but I know that. I
have more than one source repo and I want to list all the possible
versions. and second. how to I choose which source package to get?
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3063[22:24:56] <jhutchins> earthian_: You might do a health check
on the ssds.
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3064[22:25:07] <earthian_> but swap is off
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3066[22:25:29] <izhayim> hi
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3068[22:25:57] <jhutchins> areyouloco: Again, versions should
match the package versions, you can specify the version with
apt-get.
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3073[22:26:48] <trebor_dki> hello, i have a little problem with
winetricks and crypt32. how can i update to a more recent one (the
repository one is from 2014)? is apt-get install wine-staging worth
a try?
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3074[22:26:51] <jhutchins> earthian_: I'm not very good at
searching the kernel.org documentation, but that's where
you'll find definitive answers.
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3078[22:28:09] <jhutchins> trebor_dki: You can check backports.
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3079[22:28:38] <jhutchins> trebor_dki: Some people use wine
directly from winehq.
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3082[22:28:55] <jhutchins> trebor_dki: That means getting support
directly from them too though.
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3084[22:28:57] <jhutchins> !wine
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3085[22:28:57] <dpkg> methinks wine is ine (Wine Is Not an
Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft
Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application
compatibility database:
replaced-url
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3092[22:30:20] <c0untch0cula> Parrot is based on Debian's
testing branch (stretch), with a custom Linux 4.13.0 kernel. It
follows a rolling release development model.
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3103[22:32:26] <trebor_dki> jhutchins: thanks. i'll check
the direct thing.
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3105[22:33:24] <izhayim> can someone ping me? just to test
hexchat notifications
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3106[22:33:37] <petemc> !ping izhayim
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3108[22:33:44] <jhutchins> izhayim: irssi ftw
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3109[22:33:53] <izhayim> ty
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3110[22:33:55] <izhayim> it works
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3111[22:34:03] <teraflops> izhayim: you can quote yourself
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3113[22:34:20] <izhayim> izhayim
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3114[22:34:45] <teraflops> !echo izhayim hi there
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3115[22:34:45] <dpkg> izhayim hi there
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3131[22:39:03] <izhayim> !echo izhayim hi
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3132[22:39:04] <dpkg> izhayim hi
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3133[22:39:07] <izhayim> !echo izhayim hi
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3134[22:39:59] <rawruw> weird questoin, but can you execute files
on ntfs mounts? they don't have the X flag
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3135[22:40:11] <annadane> izhayim, you can configure
notifications by settings - preferences - alerts
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3137[22:40:38] <izhayim> how'd you know what irc client
I'm using?
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3140[22:41:55] <annadane> because you said "hexchat"...
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3141[22:42:11] <trebor_dki> hm. could someone check if
"winetricks crypt32" works? i am using winehq-staging
(2.19) and I thought libwine now would come with some new
winetricks, but I am still on the version of 2014 ...
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3146[22:43:52] <jhutchins> trebor_dki: Many years ago I learned
to use Linux tools that did what I wanted - usually even better -
and I never went back to trying to force Windows software to work.
It doesn't work in Windows, why should it work in Linux?
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3149[22:45:16] <trebor_dki> it is about taxes .... the bad thing
is, i managed to get it working on the machine of my father in law.
now on my own one, i fail ....
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3157[22:46:02] <jhutchins> Heh. Googling crypt32 turns up about
200,000 results - almost all of them concerning errors.
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3160[22:47:30] <trebor_dki> the wineticks version of 2016 fixes
the error, but i do not get there ....
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3206[22:53:24] <trebor_dki> uname -a leads to debian 3.16.43 -
what debian is this, jessie?
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3235[22:57:08] <areyouloco> trebor_dki: if you have acces you can
chceck that by lsb_release -a
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3241[22:59:04] <merethan> Hi all
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3243[22:59:37] <merethan> Honeyd seems to be no more in the
latest debian. (No development for 10 years so yeah..)
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3246[22:59:49] <merethan> Can someone recommend me an alternative
honeypot?
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3257[23:02:11] <Wulf> merethan: write your own?
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3262[23:03:42] <merethan> I'm just experimenting Wulf
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3263[23:04:34] <merethan> Also, securiry is not my expertise,
unlikely I can write a honeypot which has any real use.
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3264[23:04:40] <merethan> *security
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3265[23:04:50] <trebor_dki> areyouloco: thanks, very nice, works
perfect.
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3273[23:07:16] <sanou572> ist
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3279[23:08:57] <trebor_dki> downloading winetricks directly via
wget seems to be enough - its just a (long) script ;)
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3288[23:11:50] <merethan> My snort box does not have X or
Wayland, hence it is always in console mode. What mechanism governs
the screen powerdown time?
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3289[23:12:08] <merethan> I don't want it to go into stand
by
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3375[23:44:40] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install
drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP
mode.. lmk ty.
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3376[23:44:42] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install
drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP
mode.. lmk ty.
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3377[23:45:04] <Wulf> c0untch0cula: check kernel messages
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3378[23:45:14] <c0untch0cula> how do i do that?
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3379[23:47:22] <areyouloco> c0untch0cula: dmesg or sudo dmesg
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3382[23:48:46] <rawruw> if I want to add a service to autostart
in sysvinit, I'll add it to the appropriate runlevel?
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3385[23:49:24] <Wulf> rawruw: put the runlevels into the init
script, then update-init defaults XXX
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3386[23:49:27] <Wulf> iirc.
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3388[23:50:10] <Wulf> or update-rc.d
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3392[23:51:45] <rawruw> that made no sense :>
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