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67 [00:41:48] <oft_gegong> I'd like to report a Debian bug.
When certain i386 packages are installed a postiori booting into
Debian LiveUSB the whole LiveUSB gets unmounted.
68 [00:42:02] <oft_gegong> in a 64-bit system
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78 [00:47:38] <joze> in a two bit system
79 [00:47:45] <joze> what is true?
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150 [01:48:04] <Mibbit> anyone happen to use Quassel?
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234 [03:04:08] <sponix2ipfw> Mibbit: nope
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260 [03:18:40] <ksk> !anyone
261 [03:18:41] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
262 [03:18:44] <ksk> Mibbit: ^
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279 [03:26:18] <gh00p> Hey, is there a way for me to run 2 or
more android emulators at the same time? I'm open to any system
- virtualbox, whatever. Just not sure where to start researching.
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281 [03:29:16] <ksk> I have use the sdk for android from google
for that once or twice. a little bit more than just an emulator, but
nice and clicky. it is third party software however, andnot part of
debian of course.
282 [03:29:20] <ksk> used
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291 [03:40:09] <terr__> ksk, may I ask what this is for?
292 [03:40:35] <ksk> it contains an android emulator.
293 [03:40:44] <ksk> gh00p: asked. forgot to highlight ;)
294 [03:40:53] <terr__> like for a cell phone?
295 [03:41:20] <ksk> you can run the android os, that is run by
many phones, on your computer yes. mainly used for developing apps.
296 [03:41:25] <terr__> I just woke up and I guess you are my
first victim
297 [03:41:47] <gh00p> ksk, thanks. Do I need the full
"Android Studio" to get the SDK, or did you get the SDK on
its own?
298 [03:41:50] <terr__> ksk perfect. This is something I am
looking to do!
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300 [03:42:26] <terr__> What is the run time environment? is it
an emulator? I presume it is.
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302 [03:44:33] <ksk> see its documentation ;)
303 [03:44:59] <ksk>
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304 [03:45:19] <terr__> ksk, I can't look right now. Reason?
I am just installing Debian in new systems and so far they are not
fully operational. But I might be able to help.
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311 [03:48:54] <terr__> ksk, I am looking to do some development
work on android (for now but likely iPhone later) and also on
Raspberry Pi. It would be great to work with a couple birds of a
feather
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314 [03:50:53] <terr__> ksk, when you bring up studio - what is
the environment. Like it should just be a process which will likely
fork() a bit.
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317 [03:51:53] <terr__> ksk, how is it installed - via root? Is
it accessable from several users? Linux is multiuser. For instance
figuratively can one ssh in and run it?
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327 [04:01:48] <sponix2ipfw> terr__: you hanging your hat in here
now ? Been seeing you in here a lot lately
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331 [04:04:17] <terr__> sponix2ipfw, ya. I finally got past the
password issue and have a working version. Its pretty primative. Now
I've got a big HDD and I'm looking to find the proper .iso
and reboot the machine off a proper HDD (this one is 1 TB and
external - works great!) then I can get a "real" system
going.
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333 [04:05:07] <terr__> I booted it off a USB pendrive. If you
think slooooreplaced-url
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336 [04:06:23] <terr__> sponix2ipfw, I've done all of this
before. Just not recently and someone moved the goal posts.
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338 [04:07:58] <sponix> terr__: all this time spent in here, and
you are _still_ working to get a rig up ?
339 [04:08:04] <terr__> sponix2ipfw, what I am doing now is get
that HDD bootable. As part of this I'll look to add a USB
switch and so far - I don't know: 2x4 or 4x4. My truck is a
4x4. maybe my switch should be as well.
340 [04:08:18] <terr__> well ya
341 [04:09:20] <terr__> Its actually now up. BUT - I only have 2
monitors running and the sizes are not right and I need to add #3
which is SVGA over USB and that is a 3rd size.
342 [04:10:47] <terr__> sponix, figuring out a decent partitioing
scheme so I can just copy a partition from one machine / drive to
another was not easy. None of the partition sizes match. and I
needed to use windows to do it and that is a royal pain.
343 [04:11:04] <sponix> I only run one 27 inch Monitor. So not
much help there
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346 [04:11:38] <sponix> terr__: lol ... I feel you should have
read up on clonezilla
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348 [04:12:21] <terr__> I have 4 systems: 2x32 bit, 2x64 bit and
need w7, w10, and linux and VM and I have monitors on my desk right
now with 2 more systems to go.
349 [04:12:56] <terr__> lord I have read so much. But - I have a
system and I used to just use bash.
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353 [04:13:25] <terr__> sponix, I have forgotten all the
commands. And I never used a GUI in the first place.
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356 [04:14:55] <terr__> sponix, I already have a Raspberry pi and
some arduinos and I am looking to set up some apps in android. one
reason? I want to be able to control the RPI from a tablet over
WiFi.
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364 [04:20:58] <Mibbit> ksk: ya well
365 [04:21:07] <terr__> ksk, if you tell me how the
developer's kit runs it might be pretty easy to run 2 copies
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370 [04:23:57] <Mibbit> don't really appreciate being
policed
371 [04:24:44] <kingsley> What do you think of the package
manager named "Spack"? (replaced-url
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377 [04:29:10] <kingsley>
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379 [04:29:51] <sponix> Mibbit: Policed ?
380 [04:30:12] <Mibbit> yep
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386 [04:38:14] <terr__> what is the difference between debian 9
and debian 10. Last version I have is
debian-9.7.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso
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388 [04:39:10] <sponix> terr__: 10 is higher than 9
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391 [04:39:47] <sponix> Debian 10.2 Buster is more up to date
392 [04:40:05] <terr__> sponix, ya - I figured that. Probably
newer as well. Maybe even better?
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394 [04:40:34] <terr__> okay. 16 Nov 2019 we have Buster
395 [04:40:39] <terr__> this is good.
396 [04:40:50] <sponix> terr__: I've had good luck with
Debian 10
397 [04:40:55] <terr__> there is something which I may want and
its not in Buster.
398 [04:41:16] <terr__> well - since I'm doing an install I
may as well install Buster. Eh?
399 [04:41:19] <terr__> :-)
400 [04:41:41] <sponix> you can look at the packages prior to
know if everything you need is supported
401 [04:41:46] <sponix> ,v rtorrent
402 [04:41:47] <judd> Package: rtorrent on amd64 -- jessie:
0.9.2-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2+b1; buster: 0.9.7-1; bullseye: 0.9.8-1;
sid: 0.9.8-1
403 [04:41:51] <sponix> for example
404 [04:42:00] <sponix> or do the debian packages website
405 [04:45:51] <nvz> my machine (Lenovo Thinkpad T440 i5-4400U
8GB RAM, 128GB SATA SSD) locks up on intensive writes.. I thought
this was just a small and nearly full SSD thing, but I'm now
doing batch operations in Audacity reading from and writing back to
a USB3 HDD and its still doing it though not as often. Any
suggestions on this?
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407 [04:46:25] <nvz> I think I need some kernel tuning
408 [04:47:00] <sponix> explain "locks up"
409 [04:47:14] <nvz> the keyboard/mouse is unresponsive for
several moments
410 [04:47:19] <terr__> okay - that machine is on bullseye.
411 [04:47:25] <terr__> 9.7
412 [04:47:27] <nvz> probably i/o wait tying up interrupts
413 [04:47:35] <nvz> would be my guess
414 [04:47:38] <terr__> uname -a should give this to me and it
didn't
415 [04:48:32] <sponix> nvz: check temps when doing this to
ensure it isn't the cpu just dropping clocks like a mad man
416 [04:49:22] <sponix> nvz: then, you might experiment with
different schedulers for IO or even the kernel itself
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418 [04:50:52] <terr__> WTF is goign on here? konsole is auto
scrolling! I am not touching it and the screen is jumping up and
down about 5 lines like a rabbit
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421 [04:52:32] <nvz> sponix: my cpu is at 58C and the fan is
going on/off which during normal usage I can run all day with my fan
at 0rpm
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457 [05:42:06] <McE_2> Hi, did a "dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
and now my X wont work properly any more... , how do i fix it ?
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459 [05:43:03] <McE_2> service gdm start..., exists prematurely..
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463 [05:45:24] <McE_2> got a message saying s.th. like "X
was starting 6 times within 90 seconds.., waiting 2 minutes before
trying again"...
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483 [06:06:31] <McErroneous> does dpkg-reconfigure keep a
backup-file ?
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489 [06:12:36] <terr__> debian-installer Command not found
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491 [06:17:47] <nvz> terr__: ?
492 [06:17:54] <nvz> !wayttd terr__
493 [06:17:54] <dpkg> What Are You Trying To Do, terr__?
494 [06:18:17] <terr__> get debian-installer running
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496 [06:18:35] <nvz> boot an install media?
497 [06:18:48] <tabakhase> are you root?
498 [06:18:53] <tabakhase> think its in sbin
499 [06:19:04] <nvz> ,file bin/debian-installer
500 [06:19:09] <judd> No packages in buster/amd64 were found with
that file.
501 [06:19:24] <terr__> its already installed. I wantg to getg an
installer running so I can install a new version of Debian to a
fresh partition ona new external drive
502 [06:19:25] <tabakhase> ,file
/usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher
503 [06:19:29] <judd> Search for
/usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher in buster/amd64:
debian-installer-launcher: usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher
504 [06:19:42] <tabakhase> try that? *shrugs*
505 [06:19:56] <terr__> I'm not yet in buster. I'm in
bullseye 9.7
506 [06:20:06] <nvz> o.O
507 [06:20:17] <nvz> terr__: you mean Stretch?
508 [06:20:43] <nvz> terr__: bullseye is testing, it has no
version number yet.. it will be version 11
509 [06:21:56] <terr__> tabakhase, I will - thanks. It should be
in the manual in section 6.3.1 instead of "Let's assume
the Debian Installer has booted" Lordy
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511 [06:22:19] <terr__> I just glanced. Its 9.7
512 [06:22:27] <terr__> I installed it a year ago.
513 [06:22:35] <nvz> thats Stretch not Bullseye
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515 [06:24:12] <tabakhase> debootstrap and "installer"
is a bootrecord, not a "binary"? - at least thats what i
get from a glance at the old docs...
516 [06:24:18] <terr__> thanks. Probably either would work. I
have to redo this anyways because I set up 2 partitions: /root and
/home. I want 1. This is not a production machine. Its a backup HDD
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533 [06:43:44] <terr__>
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534 [06:44:23] <terr__> Boy termbin works well!
535 [06:47:23] <terr__> I should be able to easily use apt to
install it. but again... its been years since I used apt
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542 [06:59:06] <tomg> i'd like to set up Exim to listen to
the whole world on IPv6, i'm using dpkg-reconfigure
exim4-config
543 [06:59:49] <tomg> I'm at "IP-addresses to listen on
for incoming SMTP connections:" and I tried putting :: and
[::], but it said Malformed IP address ":" in
local_interfaces
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546 [07:01:53] <Gonpo> tomg: whole world?
547 [07:02:05] <tomg> well the internet in general, as opposed to
lo
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559 [07:10:19] <tomg> or, i guesst my question is how to get Exim
to work with both IPv4 and IPv6, since I just got it to work with
IPv4
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561 [07:11:13] <tomg> using debian 10 on a cloud computer by the
way. i configured it with 0.0.0.0 and it works, but if I use both
0.0.0.0 ; :: it fails to allocat an IPv6 port since it's
already bound by the IPv4 port... okay i think i'm done typing
now
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660 [08:54:21] <countdr> Bin Etc nobody
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664 [08:55:57] <ratrace> tomg: :: includes ipv4 too
665 [08:56:20] <countdr> Because Linux kernel binds both
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704 [09:26:58] <jsync> How do I force install a package? I
uninstalled something & tried to reinstall it & the terminal
said unmet dependencies. It's asking for a newer version of a
library that's sufficient for compiling.
705 [09:28:03] <countdr> what about apt-get -f install ?
706 [09:28:36] <countdr> apt-get -f install
707 [09:29:02] <jsync> I was trying to give it the newer edition
& I uninstalled something that's sufficient for compiling a
software. I need to force install this lib again.
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712 [09:29:30] <countdr> A Makefile problem
713 [09:29:33] <jsync> I thought -f was fix.
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715 [09:30:30] <countdr> Sure answer is a virtual machine
716 [09:31:28] <digdilem> compile a software? software is plural.
DId you mean a program?
717 [09:32:03] <themill> jsync: what precisely have you tried to
do? Can you pastebin the command and full output?
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728 [09:43:00] <jsync> I have a private mirror. I need to install
a library that depends upon an older edition of something installed.
I want to force install this library though, because I need it for
compiling a program.
729 [09:43:46] <countdr> Risk.
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731 [09:44:37] <jsync> It's asking for depends deb7u2, &
I have deb7u4, in this case.
732 [09:45:09] <jsync> It should work fine if I can get it
installed.
733 [09:45:13] <countdr> I don't know the difference
734 [09:46:21] <themill> jsync: there is no such think as forcing
apt to install a package
735 [09:46:21] <jsync> I have an older edition of the library
that depends upon a particular package that asks for
edition-specific matches.
736 [09:46:38] <countdr> I understand. But it is a risk
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739 [09:47:02] <themill> It's not a risk, it's flat out
not possible. You'll need to fix the packages.
740 [09:47:11] <countdr> What is the difference between deb7u2
and deb7u4?
741 [09:47:18] <ratrace> themill: I think that's a chatbot
742 [09:47:47] <themill> countdr: only the person who knows what
package this is can answer that question
743 [09:48:11] <countdr> Could look at the diff output.
744 [09:48:58] <countdr> Alright. How to extract a .deb file.
dpkg -x
745 [09:49:13] <jsync> I only need the library file out of the
package for the program to compile correctly. I'll just
manually put the library file in the file system.
746 [09:49:59] <themill> jsync: it's very unusual to need
exact versions of libraries like that to compile things.
747 [09:50:13] <themill> But without you actually telling us what
you're doing, that's as much help as you can get here.
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749 [09:51:04] <zamuro> countdr apt-get source [package] would
get you the files of a particular deb.
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782 [10:31:24] <g0zzy> Fortunately i took a backup of the whole
root partition but i find after upgrading from Stretch to Buster my
LAMP server has had its M removed!? I certainly didn't notice
it warning me it was going to do this. I notice all the files are
still under /var/lib/mysql. If i reinstall mariadb-server, is it
likely to work?
783 [10:31:24] <g0zzy>
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788 [10:33:33] <countdr> Hmm. Perhaps they changed the name of
the package?
789 [10:35:11] <g0zzy> It's pretty bad. I'm just
looking in the apt logs for clues
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791 [10:35:34] <countdr> Maybe the upgrade is still busy. apt-get
-f install
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794 [10:37:12] <g0zzy> Hmm. I'll see what happens with that
795 [10:37:53] <g0zzy> No - it thinks nothing needs to be fixed
;)
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797 [10:38:41] <countdr> Is it not just a different port though?
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799 [10:39:14] <g0zzy> Not sure i'm with you there
800 [10:39:24] <countdr> Oh right. You're not using a port
801 [10:39:58] <countdr> Do you still have the client program?
802 [10:40:13] <g0zzy> Think so, yes
803 [10:40:28] <countdr> The error you get is?
804 [10:41:28] <g0zzy> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to
local MySQL server through socket
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
805 [10:41:40] <countdr> (2) means file not found.
806 [10:42:14] <countdr> There are other reasons mysql/maria
fails to start. Check /var/log free space
807 [10:42:47] <g0zzy> mariadb-server-10.1 deinstall
808 [10:42:59] <countdr> df -h /var/log
809 [10:44:01] <g0zzy> 92G available
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811 [10:44:44] <countdr> I think what happened is the
mariadb-server install package asked for user input, but
couldn't get it
812 [10:44:55] <countdr> Just install that package
813 [10:44:57] <Ede|Popede> is it running?
814 [10:45:37] <g0zzy> Possibly
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818 [10:46:32] <g0zzy> OK. I'll see what happens when i
install it
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820 [10:46:49] <Ede|Popede> well, yay or nay? lsof -i -P
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823 [10:50:12] <g0zzy> Not running
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825 [10:52:10] <g0zzy> /usr/sbin/mysqld no longer even present on
the system
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838 [10:54:54] <g0zzy> Phew - running! Thanks folks
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841 [10:55:57] <zamba> how can i get an older version of a
package installed on buster?
842 [10:56:00] <zamba> i'm trying to install perl 5.26
843 [10:56:12] <g0zzy> Not quite out of the wood yet: Your PHP
installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is
required by WordPress.
844 [10:56:27] <zamba> apt list -a perl only shows 5.28.1-6
845 [10:56:44] <zamba> same with apt-cache policy perl
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851 [11:00:21] <Ede|Popede> ,v perl
852 [11:00:22] <judd> Package: perl on amd64 -- jessie:
5.20.2-3+deb8u11; jessie-security: 5.20.2-3+deb8u12; stretch:
5.24.1-3+deb9u5; stretch-security: 5.24.1-3+deb9u5;
stretch-proposed-updates: 5.24.1-3+deb9u6; buster: 5.28.1-6;
bullseye: 5.30.0-9; sid: 5.30.0-9; experimental: 5.30.1~rc1-1
853 [11:01:07] <Ede|Popede> zamba, something wrong with 5.28?
854 [11:01:24] <g0zzy> php7.3-mysql is installed
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856 [11:02:09] <Ede|Popede> did you install wordpress from the
repo?
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858 [11:02:51] <Ede|Popede> oh, and where does this message come
from?
859 [11:03:22] <g0zzy> That's in the browser
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861 [11:04:06] <Ede|Popede> so probably generated by wordpress
862 [11:04:42] <g0zzy> THink it was installed from repo. I notice
that is now marked deinstall
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864 [11:05:05] <Ede|Popede> "the MySQL extension[…]
required", yes. that's a clear info.
865 [11:05:39] <Ede|Popede> if it's newer than from the repo
than maybe not
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867 [11:06:14] <Ede|Popede> and after uninstall it wouldn't
throw errors
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869 [11:06:59] <g0zzy> Maybe there's an install in the web
root of the site. How would i be able to test if there is?
870 [11:07:59] <Ede|Popede> /msg alis list wordpress
871 [11:08:15] <Ede|Popede> no idea which channel would be
relevant, but they may know what it expects
872 [11:08:30] <Ede|Popede> filemanager?
873 [11:09:13] <Ede|Popede> may also be somewhere else and the
httpd importing the directory (Alias in apache or such)
874 [11:09:19] <g0zzy> I'm just worried about installing
again via repo as it might make things worse
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877 [11:11:05] <Ede|Popede> i once installed the newest mediawiki
from their site, and then also apache. maybe also some php,
can't remember. took some work, but is doable at the end of the
dependency tree.
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879 [11:11:19] <Ede|Popede> though i wouldn't like to
replace perl
880 [11:11:50] <Ede|Popede> ofc you have to take care of updates
yourself then
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882 [11:12:39] <g0zzy> I just can't remember whether i
installed WP into the web root
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884 [11:13:16] <Ede|Popede> check it?
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886 [11:14:37] <g0zzy> Not quite sure what i'd look for. I
mean there are wp directories there but maybe that's just
normal
887 [11:15:10] <Ede|Popede> i'm not aware of any httpd
coming with wp. unless it's lamp.
888 [11:16:26] <Ede|Popede> lampp
889 [11:16:30] <Ede|Popede> !lampp
890 [11:16:30] <dpkg> XAMPP for Linux (formerly LAMPP) is a way
of installing lots of software that is already packaged for Debian.
Don't use XAMPP, instead use aptitude install apache2 php5
libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server gettext perl
libapache2-mod-perl2 sqlite webalizer mcrypt expat proftpd libpng3
libjpeg62 ... actually, just ask me about <search>.
891 [11:16:49] <Ede|Popede> never could se a reason using it on
linux
892 [11:17:15] <g0zzy> I could have just unzipped WP into the web
root, in which case it could be out of sync with the new php version
893 [11:19:10] <g0zzy> "wp core update" can be run in
the webroot apparently
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895 [11:22:16] <Ede|Popede> no idea, didn't install it for a
decade now
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998 [13:27:00] <H2Q> hello, I am using debian 10, and have this
annoyance of nautilus not opening at the start of desktop session.
it opens after a good while from 5-15 minutes...though not being
sure, it seems to be happening with distros upgraded from debian 9.
does/has anyone here have/had this problem? or else how can I fix
this?
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1001 [13:27:28] <abrotman> check your var/log/messages for some
error/connection issue?
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1009 [13:35:15] <H2Q> I am connected.
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1011 [13:35:31] <H2Q> it is nautilus, not network-manager. why
should it relate to connection?
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1028 [13:49:14] <Mrbuck> hi under .cache directory I have
mesa_shader_cache
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1030 [13:49:27] <Mrbuck> which is suspicious to me. What are they?
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1046 [14:00:23] <tomreyn> Mrbuck: suspicious how? mesa is the
opengl graphics stack, shaders are software running on graphics
chipsets. they can be cached as hardware specific binary code,
speeding up repeat runs.
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1049 [14:02:31] <Mrbuck> tomreyn: i don't know so that cache
default on debian?
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1054 [14:03:52] <tomreyn> the ~/.cache directory is specified by
replaced-url
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1059 [14:09:35] <Mrbuck> tomreyn: not .cache but mesa_shader_cache
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1061 [14:11:04] <ayekat> just as a reference,
~/.cache/mesa_shader_cache is also there on other distributions, not
just debian
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1072 [14:15:15] <ayekat> and it seems perfectly reasonable to me
for mesa to store compiled shaders somewhere for performance reason
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1078 [14:18:07] <g0zzy1> Dist upgraded to Buster and now
Apache/PHP conmplely broken. Can't fix. "Your PHP
installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is
required by WordPress."
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1081 [14:20:50] <abrotman> is it installed? did you check that
it's enabled?
1082 [14:21:18] <g0zzy1> Apache? Yes it runs fine with a static
site
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1084 [14:22:52] <g0zzy1> phpmyadmin (which won't run) is
saying that mysqli is not installed
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1087 [14:24:18] <g0zzy1> afaics mysqli is provided by
php7.3-mysql, which IS installed
1088 [14:25:06] <Mathisen> do you have multiple php versions
installed ?
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1090 [14:25:53] <g0zzy1> Yes. 7.0 and 7.3
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1095 [14:28:48] <Mathisen> and you sure apache is using 7.3 now
then ?
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1098 [14:30:01] <g0zzy1> Well the weird thing is that when i start
Apache i'd expect the accessed timestamp on php.ini to change.
Or am i wrong there?
1099 [14:30:43] <tomreyn> only on a file system that is configured
to log access times
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1101 [14:31:38] <ayekat> g0zzy1: which php module is loaded in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/?
1102 [14:31:53] <ayekat> (or mod-enabled...? don't remember)
1103 [14:32:31] <g0zzy1> Both at the mo. I'm just disabling
7.0 to see what happens
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1105 [14:33:51] <g0zzy1> ayekat: THANK YOU (and Mathisen) .
Disabling 7.0 did the business
1106 [14:34:45] <ayekat> nice
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1153 [15:20:51] <eb0t> hey i have buster installed but keep
getting an error on boot .... flip_done timed out
1154 [15:21:02] <eb0t> i have modified /etc/default/grub
1155 [15:21:07] <eb0t> but i need to update grub
1156 [15:21:15] <eb0t> i cant update-grub on debian
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1158 [15:21:20] <eb0t> how do you do it
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1167 [15:25:43] <abrotman> why can't you update-grub?
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1169 [15:26:08] <wwilliam> Hello I am trying to install ShrewSoft
VPN on buster unsuccesfully trying to mimic this:
replaced-url
1170 [15:26:44] <wwilliam> I am getting all kind of dependency
errors is it possible is there another vpn service that i can use in
buster?
1171 [15:27:03] <eb0t> abrotman command not found
1172 [15:27:03] <mount> yo!, my fellows are never awake when i try
to catch them, so i ask here. Anyone have an good idea to run .iso
files on parrot os?, i find it rly challengin with every method that
it can be done with normal debian.
1173 [15:27:10] <abrotman> eb0t: are you root?
1174 [15:27:12] <wwilliam> client I meant.
1175 [15:27:14] <eb0t> yes
1176 [15:27:24] <abrotman> mount: there's a whole channel for
parrot, this isn't it
1177 [15:27:38] <jelly> wwilliam: again, what kind of vpn
concentrator / server are you trying to connect to? There may be
alternative vpn client software that works better than something
last released in 2013
1178 [15:27:40] <eb0t> yes abrotman i am root ..one sec let me
look at my path
1179 [15:27:46] <mount> yeah, but they dont answer never. quess
too bussy
1180 [15:27:50] <abrotman> eb0t:right, echo $PATH as root
1181 [15:28:01] <jelly> wwilliam: for example, "vpnc"
for cisco ipsec based vpn
1182 [15:28:06] <eb0t> ah thanks its something to do with su
1183 [15:28:10] <abrotman> wwilliam: can you show us the errors?
1184 [15:28:13] <wwilliam> oh ok checking.....
1185 [15:28:15] <abrotman> eb0t: try 'su -'
1186 [15:28:20] <eb0t> when i switch from user to root environment
aint changed
1187 [15:28:22] <eb0t> thanks abrotman
1188 [15:28:24] <wwilliam>
replaced-url
1189 [15:28:26] <abrotman> then run update-grub
1190 [15:28:35] <wwilliam> sorry too old
1191 [15:28:37] <abrotman> wwilliam: 404
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1193 [15:29:24] <wwilliam> yes hold on please you will see number
im getting that paste from that open old url
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1195 [15:30:06] <wwilliam>
replaced-url
1196 [15:30:32] <wwilliam> jelly: checking....
1197 [15:31:12] <wwilliam> I was able to do it in
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
1198 [15:32:10] <wwilliam> ipsec jelly
1199 [15:33:21] <jelly> wwilliam: which specific vendor?
1200 [15:33:37] <jelly> and hardware model
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1202 [15:33:58] <wwilliam> That I dont know admin didnt provide
that.
1203 [15:34:08] <jelly> can you ask them
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1205 [15:34:26] <wwilliam> i have all the settings to connect
which im able to do from Jessie.
1206 [15:34:36] <S3xyL1nux> is ubuntu a clone of debian
1207 [15:34:38] <wwilliam> but I wanted to install here.
1208 [15:34:46] <wwilliam> !ubuntu
1209 [15:34:46] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not
Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on
chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less
helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on
#debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
1210 [15:34:50] <jelly> wwilliam: I'd try to use vpnc or
openconnect.
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1212 [15:35:14] <wwilliam> is that installed by default and I use
network manager for that?
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1216 [15:35:32] <wwilliam> checking
1217 [15:35:38] <jelly> not installed by default, but both have
N-M integration I think
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1220 [15:36:14] <jelly> apt-cache search vpnc
1221 [15:36:32] <S3xyL1nux> ubuntu repo lacks of updates
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1224 [15:37:06] <wwilliam> apt-cache policy vpnc
1225 [15:37:07] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: Debian has even less updates
than Ubuntu 6-monthly releases tend to have,
1226 [15:37:08] <wwilliam> vpnc:
1227 [15:37:09] <wwilliam> Installed: (none)
1228 [15:37:10] <S3xyL1nux> each time i got to ubdate
manually
1229 [15:37:13] <wwilliam> will install....
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1231 [15:37:39] <jelly> wwilliam: it's more than just that if
you want network-manager stuff
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1233 [15:37:51] <S3xyL1nux> i mean the 'apt
upgrade'
1234 [15:39:37] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: you or your irc client is
sending private messages, please fix that if it's automatic,
and if you're doing it manually, it's typically not nice
to PM without asking first
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1239 [15:41:34] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: looked like this:
<S3xyL1nux> type the answer in numeric...
1240 [15:42:23] <S3xyL1nux> yea i got to take this of from my
irc script but lazy
1241 [15:42:25] <abrotman> in numeric?
1242 [15:42:41] <S3xyL1nux> it an auto reply shit
1243 [15:42:58] <S3xyL1nux> quite smart ha
1244 [15:43:08] <abrotman> ITYM annoying ..
1245 [15:43:27] <S3xyL1nux> stop talking to it then
1246 [15:43:31] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: disable it while you're in
here, please, many people frown on unsolicited PM
1247 [15:43:33] <abrotman> I'm not ...
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1249 [15:44:18] <S3xyL1nux> you get the reply of you msg me
first
1250 [15:44:19] <jelly> I did not talk to your client in PM, and
still got two of those.
1251 [15:44:24] <S3xyL1nux> otherwise no
1252 [15:44:34] <S3xyL1nux> coz i hate reply to ppl
1253 [15:44:48] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: only addressed you in channel.
If it's supposed to only reply to PM, then it's buggy
1254 [15:44:56] <S3xyL1nux> you must did talked to it
1255 [15:45:00] <S3xyL1nux> check your client
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1258 [15:45:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
1259 [15:45:30] <abrotman> solved!
1260 [15:45:34] <jelly> well if I must have...
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1262 [15:45:45] <S3xyL1nux> yea it reply to notice too
1263 [15:45:47] <abrotman> Not solved ...
1264 [15:45:48] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: let's retest
1265 [15:46:04] <abrotman> S3xyL1nux: it's your IRC client ..
or get a new one
1266 [15:46:07] <jelly> [14:44] <S3xyL1nux> type the answer
in numeric...
1267 [15:46:16] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: it's your client. Fix it.
1268 [15:46:29] <S3xyL1nux> at the end it say fuck off then
died
1269 [15:46:41] <S3xyL1nux> thats it ,, then he shut up
1270 [15:47:04] <jelly> I don't care, disable that crap while
you're in here
1271 [15:47:28] <S3xyL1nux> i find it funny , make me laugh
too , will keep it
1272 [15:48:16] <jelly> S3xyL1nux: then I have no other solution
but to keep your client out of this channel, that is, ban you, and
I'd like to avoid that
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1274 [15:48:31] <S3xyL1nux> oh here we go again
1275 [15:48:47] <jelly> so pretty please disable that
1276 [15:49:01] <S3xyL1nux> no way i am disabling it
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1278 [15:49:13] * jelly shrugs
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1281 [15:49:23] *** jelly sets mode: +b s3xyl1nux!*@*
1282 [15:49:24] *** jelly sets mode: +b
*!*@p1035087-ipbf05fukuhanazo.fukushima.ocn.ne.jp
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1296 [15:56:53] <jelly> two days dungeon!
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1310 [16:10:13] <wwilliam> network manager is not showing any
options to configure a vpn after installing:
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1312 [16:10:39] <wwilliam> apt-get install kvpnc kvpnc-dbg
network-manager-vpnc vpnc vpnc-scripts
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1315 [16:10:59] <wwilliam> I also rebooted
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1323 [16:17:12] <wwilliam> this is so different from jesse in
jesse i click on the little monitor screen and click the little
wrench and a connection editor opens not here. in buster.
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1326 [16:19:03] <wwilliam> oh OK got it have to click on the +
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1335 [16:26:38] <wwilliam> a .vpn file could be the same as an
.ovpn file?
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1338 [16:28:15] <jelly> probably not
1339 [16:30:02] <wwilliam> when i export from the jesse the vpn
config file the output is .vpn
1340 [16:30:26] <wwilliam> from command line what would be the
best client to use with this export file
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1343 [16:31:00] <wwilliam> .vpn that is.
1344 [16:31:47] <wwilliam> well with shrew soft all this was
really easy but i can not install it here in buster like I did In
Jesse. :(
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1346 [16:32:19] <wwilliam> I just import the .vpn file and enter
my user name and password and done tunnel enabled
1347 [16:32:26] <wwilliam> iked has to be running.....
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1350 [16:34:34] <g0zzy> Stretch is insisting on starting caja at
startup. Nothing about it in startup apps and i've emptied the
saved-sessions and session-state directories. Still starting :(
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1358 [16:40:02] <jsync> Hello. I need to H4k02 up my system, &
I need some advice.
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1364 [16:44:16] <azy> whats the best mind mapping software?
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1366 [16:44:31] <wwilliam> ok i made progress sort of ....there is
a setting to import saved vpn configuration which i do but the
connection dont show in network manager after importing.
1367 [16:44:48] <jsync> I need particular libraries for some
programs I'm working on, & there are install conflicts for
the libraries. To make things easier on myself, I want to use
what's sufficient of what I need. I get terminal readout with
apt: Unmet dependencies. libsuchnso-dev depends on
packagesuchnso-deb2u4u, though packagesuchnso-deb2u6u is to be
installed.
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1369 [16:45:36] <countdr> jsync: You could use a virtual machine.
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1371 [16:46:29] <jsync> It's a Wheezy system that I want to
keep a Wheezy system because I've worked with it for a long
time & I like it.
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1374 [16:47:46] <jsync> Though I want these libraries. My system
is on an intranet in my house. I just don't want bad apt
behavior, though I want these libraries.
1375 [16:47:54] <wwilliam> I cant believe im not going to be able
to do this in Buster.
1376 [16:48:21] <wwilliam> everything in google is for .ovpn files
not for .vpn files
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1378 [16:48:57] <jsync> I hate Nautilus in Buster. I did like
Gnomes' Epiphany improvements though. It's getting there.
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1380 [16:50:14] <countdr> Sherlock Gnomes
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1383 [16:50:44] <Akuw> i am trying to configure a bluetooth mouse
using "hcitool scan"
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1385 [16:50:58] <Akuw> it find another device, but not my
Microsoft mouse
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1388 [16:51:13] <Akuw> that mouse was paired with another computer
using windows
1389 [16:51:22] <Akuw> and no problem
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1397 [16:53:15] <jelly> wwilliam: you'll have to manually
enter all the coniguration data and hope your vpn server is,
actually, vpnc compatible
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1405 [16:55:54] <wwilliam> admin did not provide the key he just
said to import the .vpn file which worked in shrewsoft in Jesse.
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1408 [16:56:14] <wwilliam> If I just could install that shrewsoft
in buster....
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1421 [17:00:26] <wwilliam> Can anyone with sometime and patience
in their hands help me to install this in Buster?
1422 [17:00:28] <wwilliam>
replaced-url
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1429 [17:02:09] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: do you use network manager on
this box?
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1432 [17:03:11] <wwilliam> is installed
1433 [17:03:12] <wwilliam> yes
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1435 [17:03:27] <wwilliam> but the problem is admin dont want to
give
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1437 [17:04:05] <wwilliam> the preshared key
1438 [17:04:17] <wwilliam> he just said to export and import
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1441 [17:04:45] <wwilliam> like I said this works in Jesse because
the above package installed.
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1443 [17:04:56] <wwilliam> but dont install in buster.
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1450 [17:06:15] <wwilliam> this is in that .vpn configuration
file:
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1454 [17:06:43] <wwilliam>
replaced-url
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1458 [17:08:02] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: looks like your preshared key
is in there (the psk). it's mime encoded I think. either way
the security of your vpn may be buggered since you shared.
1459 [17:08:42] <wwilliam> well after that i need username and
password no?
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1462 [17:09:19] <aypea[0]> possibly. I don't. if he gave you
those then yes
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1465 [17:09:53] <wwilliam> I know I need to enter username and
password in Jesse.
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1467 [17:10:23] <wwilliam> ok so using that info what can i use in
network manager to connect to that vpn?
1468 [17:10:38] <aypea[0]> should do. your psk is, erm: 12345678
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1472 [17:11:24] <wwilliam> which one of all the connections
offered in network manager i should use?
1473 [17:11:34] <aypea[0]> hmm. one sec.
1474 [17:11:39] <wwilliam> Thanks
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1476 [17:12:20] <aypea[0]> make sure network-manager-strongswan is
installed and give that a go. that should be the one
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1478 [17:12:40] <wwilliam> ok that one is installed .
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1480 [17:12:50] <wwilliam> Ok thank you aypea[0] trying.....
1481 [17:13:15] <aypea[0]> going off to brush teeth. 3:15am. will
be back.
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1495 [17:19:28] <wwilliam> Cant figure it out thank you all I will
install jesse as vm here....
1496 [17:19:32] <wwilliam> !jesse
1497 [17:19:32] <dpkg> No, the Debian release is
"jessie". Ask me about <jessie>.
1498 [17:19:39] <wwilliam> !jessie
1499 [17:19:40] <dpkg> Jessie is the codename for the current
<oldoldstable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25.
Security support ended 2018-05-17, repos removed from mirrors around
2019-03-24, except for <jessie-lts>. Jessie is the cowgirl in
Toy Story 2. See
replaced-url
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1501 [17:20:05] <wwilliam> !install jessie
1502 [17:20:05] <dpkg> Debian 8 "Jessie" installation
images are available from
replaced-url
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1504 [17:20:43] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: where are you getting lost?
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1506 [17:21:02] <wwilliam> gateway?
1507 [17:21:10] <wwilliam> certificate?
1508 [17:21:13] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: the ip of your vpn end point
1509 [17:21:18] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: no cert, psk
1510 [17:21:19] <wwilliam> ok got that
1511 [17:21:36] <wwilliam> i dont have a psk
1512 [17:21:46] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: you do: 12345678
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1514 [17:22:06] <wwilliam> but is asking me to browse
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1517 [17:22:23] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: don't click on cert
1518 [17:22:36] <wwilliam> just type it?
1519 [17:22:37] <aypea[0]> wwilliam: ignore it. just move to
client and select psk for ath
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1522 [17:23:46] <wwilliam> in Authentication I chose
Certificate/private key
1523 [17:24:05] <aypea[0]> no. unless you have a cert and key.
afaik you have a psk
1524 [17:24:06] <wwilliam> but on the bottom again wants me to
browse
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1526 [17:24:30] <wwilliam> for Certificate,Private Key, Private
Key password
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1528 [17:24:53] <aypea[0]> the auth dropdown should have preshared
key as an option
1529 [17:25:02] <wwilliam> ok so far only the ip and port are in
the "gateway"
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1531 [17:25:27] <wwilliam> It doesnt
1532 [17:25:40] <wwilliam> only Certification/private key
1533 [17:25:49] <wwilliam> EAP
1534 [17:25:54] <wwilliam> Smart card
1535 [17:25:56] <wwilliam> and
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1537 [17:26:16] <wwilliam> Certificate-sshagent
1538 [17:26:20] <wwilliam> that is all
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1540 [17:26:28] <aypea[0]> that's... a mite odd.
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1542 [17:26:56] <aypea[0]> this is buster, right?
1543 [17:26:58] <wwilliam> may be i need to use something else in
Network Manager?
1544 [17:27:24] <wwilliam> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10
(buster)"
1545 [17:27:32] <aypea[0]> hrm
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1549 [17:28:57] <aypea[0]> gnome or kde?
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1551 [17:29:21] <joze> ja
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1559 [17:31:32] <martin-_-_> hi,
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1565 [17:33:05] <sbug> aypea[0]: I just tried installing
network-manager-strongswan in a VM and I also only see the same
options. (Buster/KDE)
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1567 [17:33:29] <martin-_-_> does anybody know which desktop
system Harmony OS is using? kde? enlightment? gnome?
1568 [17:34:02] <wwilliam> aypea[0]: KDE
1569 [17:34:15] <aypea[0]> interesting. xfce here
1570 [17:35:12] <filpAM> How I change the /boot to be on its own
partition? The /boot directory is located directly inside the root
filesystem rather than being a mountpoint to a dedicated partiton
for grub files(smh, is that default?)
1571 [17:35:13] <aypea[0]> anyhow. 3:30am and so I must snooze.
sorry I couldn't get you (much) closter to a solution.
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1573 [17:35:54] <wwilliam> Thank you aypea[0] for your time and
effort, back to square 1.
1574 [17:36:00] <aypea[0]> filpAM: shouldn't matter. my /boot
is an lvm logical volume.
1575 [17:36:11] <wwilliam> !install debian
1576 [17:36:11] <dpkg> There are a myriad of different ways to
install Debian. See
replaced-url
1577 [17:36:14] <sbug> aypea[0] wwilliam in my other VM withi
GNOME I do have that option!
1578 [17:36:27] <sbug> pre shared key
1579 [17:36:41] <wwilliam> I dont like gnome.
1580 [17:36:47] <wwilliam> sbug: thank you.
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1582 [17:37:40] <annadane> happy 10.3 :-)
1583 [17:37:42] <filpAM> wwilliam, but I don't want to
install again, but move /boot to its own partition (and make /boot a
mountpoint to that parittion) as stated above with the current
installed debian
1584 [17:38:07] <sbug> aypea[0]: hu? new point release out?
1585 [17:38:26] <sbug> sorry annadane *
1586 [17:38:27] <wwilliam> god flimpie you barking to the wrong
tree flimpie im an idiot.
1587 [17:38:42] <annadane> yep
1588 [17:38:50] <sbug> yay \o/ :)
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1591 [17:39:03] <annadane> you probably should subscribe to
debian-announce
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1594 [17:39:28] <annadane> though that particular email
hasn't quite been sent out yet
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1596 [17:39:35] <martin-_-_> I would like a desktop manager which
looks like Harmony OS, can someone suggest a dm 4me?
1597 [17:39:40] <annadane> i guess it's because i'm
subscribed to debian-devel-announce
1598 [17:39:47] <sbug> hum ok
1599 [17:39:55] <ratrace> annadane: 'twas few days ago
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1604 [17:41:01] <ratrace> debian-stable-announce, 2020-02-03, [SUA
177-1] Upcoming Debian 10 Update (10.3)
1605 [17:41:17] <annadane> this is literally the first time i hear
about that mailing list lol
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1667 [18:20:05] <user217_> cant see any update for
"flatpack" package (still using 0.89) Any ideas how to fix
this?
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1669 [18:21:40] <jelly> ,v flatpak
1670 [18:21:41] <judd> Package: flatpak on amd64 --
stretch-security: 0.8.9-0+deb9u2; stretch: 0.8.9-0+deb9u3;
stretch-backports: 1.2.5-0+deb10u1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.2.5-0+deb10u1;
bullseye: 1.6.1-1; sid: 1.6.1-1
1671 [18:21:58] <jelly> user217_: which debian release are you
using?
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1678 [18:26:42] <user217_> jelly:
replaced-url
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1681 [18:27:55] <jelly> user217_: that LMDE sounds like Mint, not
Debian
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1684 [18:28:45] <jelly> if it were Debian I'd suggest
enabling stretch-backports and installing from there, but I have no
idea if that would break a LMDE installation
1685 [18:28:49] <user217_> jelly: but it on debian, right?
1686 [18:28:51] <jelly> !lmde
1687 [18:28:51] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not
supported in #debian. Please use their forums at
replaced-url
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1689 [18:29:13] <user217_> ok.sorry.thank you for help
1690 [18:29:40] <jelly> if you don't care about breaking your
system,
1691 [18:29:45] <jelly> !bpo
1692 [18:29:45] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <buster backports>) and oldstable
(<stretch backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
replaced-url
1693 [18:29:54] <jelly> !stretch backports
1694 [18:29:54] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Buster (Debian
10) but recompiled for use with "Stretch" (9.x) can be
found in the "stretch-backports" repository. See
replaced-url
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1716 [18:44:18] <ndorf> what's the recommended software to
use to rip an audio CD to FLAC? is pacpl good?
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1721 [18:50:43] <InvisibleRasta> ndorf, i know there is also ABCDE
1722 [18:50:46] <InvisibleRasta> for ripping
1723 [18:50:55] <sponix> jelly: I've had good experiences
with backports so far (fingers crossed)
1724 [18:51:42] <ratrace> ndorf: you can use ffmpeg directly on
the CD device as source
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1727 [18:51:59] <jelly> sponix: but you're running Debian,
else you wouldn't be here. Right? Right?? :-)
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1732 [18:53:11] <ndorf> thanks InvisibleRasta and ratrace
1733 [18:53:19] <sponix> jelly: Umm... Well ... I do have a few
VM's running Debian - does that count ?
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1735 [18:53:37] <ndorf> sponix: that's how it starts
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1738 [18:53:54] <jelly> it does, just as long as you're not
asking questions about other stuff, or providing answers based on
other stuff
1739 [18:54:20] <wwilliam> oot@stretch:/home/wwilliam# VBoxManage
extpack install 6.0.16
1740 [18:54:21] <wwilliam> bash: VBoxManage: command not found
1741 [18:54:39] <wwilliam> how do i install that VBoxManage
command?
1742 [18:55:02] <jelly> judd: file bin/VBoxManage
1743 [18:55:08] <judd> No packages in buster/amd64 were found with
that file.
1744 [18:55:08] <InvisibleRasta> i think that the best way to
install virtualbox as of now is directly with the deb file from
oracle's website
1745 [18:55:21] <sponix> jelly: I attempt to color within the
lines most of the time. Shouldn't have too many problems from
me :)
1746 [18:55:41] <wwilliam> stretch now
1747 [18:55:45] <wwilliam> virtual
1748 [18:55:55] <sponix> wwilliam: what method did you use to
install vbox ?
1749 [18:55:57] <wwilliam> trying to install the vmextentions
1750 [18:56:10] <wwilliam> sorry
1751 [18:56:15] <wwilliam> this is buster
1752 [18:56:29] <wwilliam> I think it was already install?
1753 [18:56:54] <ndorf> are you sure you want VirtualBox
specifically? KVM with virt-manager works just as well if not
better, and is in the debian packages
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1755 [18:57:05] <ratrace> hear hear
1756 [18:57:09] <ndorf> the UI is less polished, but enough to get
everything done. and the command line is much better
1757 [18:57:36] <sponix> wwilliam: what method did you use to
install vbox ?
1758 [18:57:39] <wwilliam> yes at this moment I want that.
1759 [18:57:54] <wwilliam> sponix: I dont remember this was a
while back
1760 [18:58:04] <wwilliam> is the first time I use it
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1762 [18:58:22] <wwilliam> to install stretch that i need to
install shrewsoft
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1764 [18:58:36] <sponix> wwilliam: hmm.. Well if you downloaded
the file.deb from the website, there is a matching one for the
extensions there also
1765 [18:58:47] <wwilliam> which is installed now i just need to
import the .vpn that is in usb flash
1766 [18:59:00] <ndorf> the vbox guest extensions ISO *is* in
buster packages fwiw.
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1768 [18:59:02] <wwilliam> I have the extentions already
1769 [18:59:12] <wwilliam> I need the command to install them
1770 [18:59:23] <ndorf> you install them in the guest
1771 [18:59:26] <ndorf> by mounting the iso file
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1773 [18:59:37] <ndorf> or in debian, installing the package
1774 [18:59:38] <wwilliam> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23164167 Jan 14
09:22 Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpac
1775 [19:00:10] * ratrace kicks the OVH debian mirror hoping that would
get it to sync 10.3 sooner....
1776 [19:00:12] <wwilliam> that is what i have is not the guest
additions
1777 [19:00:14] <ndorf> oh wait, sorry. i might be confusing
extensions with guest additions.
1778 [19:00:18] <wwilliam> that I already did
1779 [19:00:25] <wwilliam> is the extention pack.
1780 [19:00:39] <sponix> wwilliam: you have to "add" the
extensions from withing the vbox prefs
1781 [19:00:58] <wwilliam> so I browse to the dir and add?
1782 [19:01:15] <sponix> wwilliam: in vbox, go to "file"
then "preferences" then in there hit
"extensions" and make sure it is added in there
1783 [19:01:19] <sponix> wwilliam: yep
1784 [19:01:27] <wwilliam> OK checking
1785 [19:01:55] <sponix> you _might_ have an issue with that being
root:root and need to chown it to your user, not 100% sure on that..
I don't root around much
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1787 [19:02:06] <wwilliam> oh OK
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1791 [19:02:27] <wwilliam> yes i am not able to see it from
oraclevbox chowning
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1794 [19:03:17] <sponix> wwilliam: Ideal would be for it to be
owned by your user:group and be in some place you can access easily
like $HOME/Downloads ;)
1795 [19:03:19] <wwilliam> rw-r--r-- 1 wwilliam wwilliam 23164167
Jan 14 09:22 Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpack
1796 [19:03:29] <sponix> umm, I meant ~/Downloads
1797 [19:04:03] <sponix> ndorf: I deal with vbox way too much
1798 [19:04:20] <ndorf> clearly :)
1799 [19:04:25] <wwilliam> still vbox do not see it.
1800 [19:04:53] <ndorf> it doesn't see the file? or it just
doesn't want to add it?
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1802 [19:05:02] <ndorf> what are the permissions on the directory?
(ls -ld)
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1804 [19:05:04] <wwilliam> I press plus
1805 [19:05:09] <wwilliam> the dir opens
1806 [19:05:26] <wwilliam> the package is in /home/wwilliam
1807 [19:05:35] <wwilliam> I browse there dont show
1808 [19:05:40] <ndorf> weird
1809 [19:05:43] <wwilliam> yes
1810 [19:05:45] <ndorf> is there a dropdown labeled "file
types" in there?
1811 [19:05:51] <wwilliam> yes
1812 [19:05:54] <ndorf> if so, what file type is it expecting by
default?
1813 [19:05:55] <sponix> wwilliam: hmm, chmod 777 blah-extpack and
try again :)
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1815 [19:06:05] <wwilliam> ha ha ha ok
1816 [19:06:16] <ndorf> if the filename is not even showing up,
it's probably not permissions on the file itself
1817 [19:06:33] <ndorf> it could be your directory not being
readable, what does ls -ld /home/wwilliam say?
1818 [19:06:39] <wwilliam> root@stretch:/home/wwilliam# ls -l
Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpack
1819 [19:06:41] <wwilliam> -rwxrwxrwx 1 wwilliam wwilliam 23164167
Jan 14 09:22 Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpack
1820 [19:07:14] <sponix> wwilliam: umm, I just have to ask this --
are you in fact running X (the GUI) as root ? or Vbox process itself
?
1821 [19:07:34] <wwilliam> GUI not as root as wwilliam
1822 [19:07:43] <sponix> okay
1823 [19:08:03] <wwilliam> may be a reboot?
1824 [19:08:14] <wwilliam> brb will reboot
1825 [19:08:18] <ndorf> doubt that will help
1826 [19:08:25] <ndorf> but you still haven't checked the dir
permissions?
1827 [19:08:28] <wwilliam> oh shit
1828 [19:08:32] <wwilliam> im an idiot
1829 [19:08:34] <wwilliam> ha ha ah
1830 [19:08:37] <ndorf> what happened?
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1832 [19:08:50] <wwilliam> the package is in the VM ha ha ha !!!!
1833 [19:08:55] <ndorf> oops :)
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1835 [19:09:32] <sponix> wwilliam: so you want to prefs on the VM
itself, instead of the main vbox prefs section ?
1836 [19:09:49] <ndorf> the file is coming from inside the house!!
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1838 [19:10:20] <wwilliam> OK Done.
1839 [19:10:26] <wwilliam> ha ha oh God...
1840 [19:10:32] <sponix> Oh.. I get it now, the file you
downloaded is inside the VM, not inside the Host OS where it should
be :P
1841 [19:10:43] <sponix> that explains a lot
1842 [19:10:44] <wwilliam> Thanks sponix for your time, patience
and knowledge.
1843 [19:11:04] <wwilliam> ok now lets see if my usb3 works
1844 [19:11:09] <sponix> wwilliam: well, now with the ext pack
installed for the vbox HOST OS, you do the "guest
additions" inside the VM's themselves also
1845 [19:11:22] <sponix> for best results, you need to do both ;)
1846 [19:11:43] <wwilliam> i did .
1847 [19:12:23] <sponix> ndorf: I need to transfer back over to
kvm myself, but been to lazy.. Plus I end up teaching n00bz vbox all
the time, so always have it up one way or another anyway :P
1848 [19:12:49] <ndorf> honestly back when i used VBox, i
procrastinated trying kvm for the longest time
1849 [19:12:55] <ndorf> and then when i finally did... it was just
as easy
1850 [19:12:59] <sponix> ndorf: virt-manager needs to establish
the bridge interface for me
1851 [19:13:03] <ndorf> easier, actually, since there's no
need for extensions and additions :)
1852 [19:13:17] <ndorf> you mean the default network?
1853 [19:13:22] <InvisibleRasta> wwilliam, maybe you have to type
/usr/sbin/VboxManage.... your path might not be set properly
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1855 [19:13:37] <wwilliam> InvisibleRasta: is installed thank you.
1856 [19:13:50] <sponix> ndorf: Yeah, I like to run all my
VM's in bridge mode so they get their own IP on my lan, makes
the easier to manage at the router
1857 [19:14:02] <ndorf> that's easy to do in virt-manager i
think?
1858 [19:14:18] <ndorf> i use 'routed' networks myself
but i could swear bridged was an option in the gui
1859 [19:14:22] <sponix> ndorf: well, I will look again in the
near future. I need kvm for gpu passthrough anyway
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1862 [19:15:32] <ndorf> sponix: i just looked and i think
it's just labeled poorly, "forwarded to physical
network" seems to mean bridged
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1864 [19:15:41] <ndorf> at least, there is a subsequent list of
NICs from the host that show up
1865 [19:15:52] <wwilliam> hmmm
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1868 [19:16:44] <wwilliam> the usb is not detected on the vm
1869 [19:16:46] <ndorf> hm, actually you might be right,
that's not a bridge
1870 [19:17:20] <wwilliam> I have 2.0 in the vm settings...
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1872 [19:17:45] <ndorf> oh, duh. you don't create a new
virtual network for that. you just select "bridged" when
setting up the VM itself, specifically the virtual NIC
1873 [19:17:52] <backnforth> Which DVD installer should I go with?
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1876 [19:18:26] <ndorf> backnforth: netinst
1877 [19:18:32] <ndorf> (IMO)
1878 [19:18:42] <backnforth> I'm looking for somethig easy
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1882 [19:19:01] <backnforth> I tried using the CD installer and
the installation failed on my desktop
1883 [19:19:02] <ndorf> netinst is just as easy as the full dvd
IMO
1884 [19:19:08] <backnforth> Oh is it
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1886 [19:19:14] <ndorf> it failed? what was the error?
1887 [19:19:36] <backnforth> "CD-ROM drive contains a CD
which cannot be used for installation"
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1893 [19:22:47] <jelly> backnforth: is it an actual burned cd, or
a usb stick?
1894 [19:23:12] <jelly> or something else
1895 [19:24:01] <backnforth> usb stick
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1897 [19:24:29] <jelly> !usb install
1898 [19:24:29] <dpkg> You can install Debian from a USB
stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your
system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the
Installation Guide, see
replaced-url
1899 [19:25:09] <jelly> backnforth: you need to overwrite the
whole usb stick device with the iso image, do NOT use tools like
unetbootin
1900 [19:25:17] <backnforth> I used dd
1901 [19:25:21] <backnforth> with the iso
1902 [19:25:34] <jelly> do you remember the exact dd command you
used?
1903 [19:25:51] <backnforth> dd if=debian-image.iso of=/dev/sda
1904 [19:25:57] <backnforth> sda being the usb stick
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1906 [19:26:15] <jelly> that seems fine
1907 [19:26:38] <backnforth> I'd like to try another
installer anyways
1908 [19:26:47] <backnforth> DVD seems nicer since it comes with
more software
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1910 [19:27:08] <jelly> they have the same code and are created
the same way; it would be unusual if they did not behave the same
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1912 [19:28:10] <wwilliam> OK the vpn isssue was sort of resolved,
I install stretch in a vm install ike* import the .vpn and voila.
shame this can not be done in buster.
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1914 [19:28:31] <wwilliam> Thank you all for your time knowledge
and patience.
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1922 [19:31:56] <jelly> I still suspect you can use vpnc for that
ipsec psk connection, but hey, if it works...
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1933 [19:38:06] <wwilliam> ok jelly lets try then
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1937 [19:39:42] <asdfgqwerty> Does anyone use firewalld on buster?
It has been broken since release and I can't find a fix.
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1946 [19:45:02] <backnforth> Hi, I just tried installing DVD 3 to
my USB stick using dd, and I got an I/O error in the process
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1951 [19:46:25] <countdr> backnforth: There is a hash you can
check the iso file
1952 [19:46:51] <ndorf> I/O error while writing the image?
1953 [19:47:00] <ndorf> that probably means your USB stick is bad.
or possibly the USB port.
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1962 [19:48:36] <sponix> backnforth: you don't need the whole
DVD set -- Just use the netinstall and have it retrieve whatever you
want from there
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1970 [19:54:05] <backnforth> Thanks ndorf sponix
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1976 [19:58:19] <ndorf> I had a USB stick go bad recently too.
Same thing, I/O Error
1977 [19:58:36] <ndorf> If you have a different stick handy
I'd try that
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1979 [20:00:10] <sponix> ndorf: I can only recall one going bad,
was a fancy Corsair one also. Rest of the time I lose them, or give
them away prior to them giving out :P
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1983 [20:02:23] <ndorf> yup, same here
1984 [20:02:39] <backnforth> It's going through with a
different usb stick and using netinst
1985 [20:02:39] <ndorf> this one was an Adata. and maybe i did
something like get it too hot or wet, i dunno
1986 [20:02:46] <ndorf> backnforth: excellent!
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1989 [20:03:17] <ndorf> netinst is preferable IMO because you
always get the latest packages, not installing possibly outdated
ones from the DVD just to update them immediately
1990 [20:03:28] <sponix> ndorf: I think it was "user
error" .. I've had good luck with Adata so far :)
1991 [20:03:39] <wwilliam> jelly nothing... I also didnt see any
settings here for psk
1992 [20:04:05] <ndorf> sponix: well i have like four or five
other Adatas, including two from the same package, and they all
work. could be i broke it somehow, or just luck of the draw
1993 [20:04:20] <backnforth> Here we go \o/
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1997 [20:06:29] <jelly> wwilliam: I used to connect to my work vpn
(ipsec xauth psk) using vpnc, it has to be somewhere
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1999 [20:08:08] <wwilliam> vpnc option is there what i dont see is
where to put th psk.
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2008 [20:10:38] <jelly> wwilliam: "group password"
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2010 [20:11:24] <wwilliam> that is the psk? because I dont have
any group.
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2014 [20:13:13] <jelly> yes, when you use Android's IPSEC
XAUTH PSK it's called "ipsec pre-shared key". But
there's usually a group name.
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2022 [20:14:56] <wwilliam> ok testing again.....
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2039 [20:20:20] <ekaj> Could someone running debian 10 post the
output of "sha256sum $(which mkdir)" ?
2040 [20:21:18] <jelly> ekaj: which architecture debian 10?
2041 [20:21:23] <sbug>
49bcc51087a41459b4b2304d05ee50f9c8e217fc23548cd80f13d1d89a6269bf
/usr/bin/mkdir for amd64
2042 [20:21:25] <wwilliam> root@Inspiron:/home/wwilliam/Documents#
sha256sum $(which mkdir)
2043 [20:21:26] <wwilliam>
49bcc51087a41459b4b2304d05ee50f9c8e217fc23548cd80f13d1d89a6269bf
/usr/bin/mkdir
2044 [20:21:34] <jelly> ekaj: amd64? i386? something else?
2045 [20:21:36] <ekaj> amd64, ty vm
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2047 [20:21:51] <wwilliam> jelly: no good did not connect clicking
on connect does nothing.
2048 [20:23:08] <jelly> ,v coreutils
2049 [20:23:09] <judd> Package: coreutils on amd64 -- jessie:
8.23-4; stretch: 8.26-3; buster: 8.30-3; bullseye: 8.30-3+b1; sid:
8.30-3+b1
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2051 [20:24:04] <jelly> wwilliam: oh well, it was worth a try
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2053 [20:24:39] <sbug> wwilliam: do you need to use a GUI? There
is an example in 'man vpnc' for hotwo setup a config with
pre shared key
2054 [20:25:00] <wwilliam> no I can do it from cml
2055 [20:25:11] <converge> I want to install Debian, and my b43
wireless card isn't recognized. To install the non-free
firmware dvd version, are the steps 1. Download the dvd iso image
for the non free firmware, 2. Download the compressed firmware file
3. Uncompress this file into /firmware folder 4. Init the
installation?
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2059 [20:27:05] <countdr> converge. Ubuntu
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2064 [20:28:47] <converge> countdr, I prefer Debian
2065 [20:29:10] <countdr> Alright then. The firmware file might
not be enough. You might need Debian testing + firmware
2066 [20:29:27] <neox> Backport kernel could be sufficient
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2069 [20:31:17] <converge> countdr, I downloaded the testing
firmware version here
replaced-url
2070 [20:31:34] <countdr> "I was expecting it" does it
work?
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2073 [20:31:56] <converge> countdr, no, sounds like there is no
new driver installed at all
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2077 [20:32:49] <countdr> Can we backport unstable kernel to
debian testing?
2078 [20:32:55] <countdr> That is Ubuntu
2079 [20:33:07] <converge> I also downloaded the firmware.tar.gz
from here
replaced-url
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2084 [20:37:21] <sponix> converge: umm, I would just use the
non-free netinstall off a USB stick -- should work out
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2088 [20:38:43] <converge> sponix, this one?
replaced-url
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2090 [20:40:00] <sponix> converge: not sure about the testing
part.. I would do stable Debian 10.2
2091 [20:40:27] <tomg> ratrace, thanks, but I tried that and exim
ives the error that it can't understand : as an IP address
2092 [20:40:38] <tomg> i've got to go i'll continue this
later
2093 [20:41:14] <ratrace> tomg: [::]
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2097 [20:43:40] <tomg> thanks, but I tried that too, same error
about not recognising : as an IP address
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2099 [20:44:14] <tomg> meanwhile i have it working fine on my
older Debian 9-based computer, with both 127.0.0.1 ; and ::1 for
listening IP addresses
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2101 [20:44:25] <tomg> i'm probably missing something obvius
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2108 [20:51:26] <converge> The non free firmware isn't
helping me much. Is there a similar debian distribution with the
option to just install basic packages?
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2114 [20:54:23] <backnforth> May I ask for more installation help?
The netinst installed fine, but now I'm not able to boot from
my hard drive.. my motherboard says that I have no bootable device,
but it detects the hard drive
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2117 [20:55:38] <bolt> backnforth: did you install GRUB on a
bootable device during setup?
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2119 [20:57:19] <backnforth> bolt, I think so. I remember saying a
screen saying the boot loader was being installed
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2123 [20:58:46] <sbug> you are also sure BIOS is set to boot from
the harddrive?
2124 [20:58:47] <bolt> backnforth: you may want to jump back into
the setup and make sure you know which device you install that on.
also, figure out whether or not you're booting with EFI enabled
and make sure you create the appropriate EFI partition if you intend
to do so
2125 [20:58:56] <bolt> !tell backnforth about efi
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2131 [21:00:44] <ratrace> can the bot set notes for a user when
they return?
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2138 [21:04:55] <countdr> converge: Ubuntu Server has a list of
packages to choose.
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2150 [21:13:54] <converge> countdr, sounds good, thanks
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2161 [21:26:38] <nvz> converge: just don't select anything,
or choose only standard system utilities
2162 [21:27:06] <nvz> converge:
replaced-url
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2172 [21:35:14] <nvz> converge:
replaced-url
2173 [21:35:26] <backnforth> bolt, I just tried installing again,
with the boot loader being installed, and I'm still not getting
a bootable device detected.
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2175 [21:36:09] <nvz> converge: 248 packages in base, 856M
installed size, and 345 packages in standard, 1019M installed size
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2177 [21:36:46] <converge> backnforth, make sure the HD you want
to boot it set at bios
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2179 [21:37:20] <converge> nvz, cool, that's what I used to
do using Debian, but there is this issue with the wireless card,
going to try with ubuntu
2180 [21:37:42] <nvz> converge: I can probably fix your wireless
issue
2181 [21:37:51] <nvz> I cannot however support ubuntu
2182 [21:37:58] <nvz> converge: is it a USB wifi dongle?
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2184 [21:38:43] <converge> nvz, MacBook Air bcm4360, unsupported
model, requires non free packages, tried that with the unoficial iso
image with non free drivers, but still doesn't work
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2187 [21:39:43] <nvz> broadcom has historically been a pita but
that adapter is supported more than likely
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2189 [21:39:53] <nvz> converge: does it scan and not connect?
2190 [21:40:31] <converge> nvz, sounds like it make no difference,
having the non free drivers or not, Im not able to choose/activate
the driver
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2192 [21:41:21] <nvz> converge: idk what you are trying, but I am
fairly certain it will work
2193 [21:41:29] <nvz> converge: what do you have on it right now?
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2195 [21:42:05] <wwilliam> why in the world every new version of
debian is more restrictive than the previews one what is the point?
how in the world start the power settings module?
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2197 [21:42:36] <converge> Im installing ubuntu at the moment,
last try was this one
replaced-url
2198 [21:43:25] <nvz> well then we can be of no further assistance
to you. If you wanna use debian, I could tell you how to do it
2199 [21:43:34] <wwilliam> !power
2200 [21:43:38] <wwilliam> wtf?
2201 [21:43:55] <nvz> it requires a non-free driver to be built
and the conflicting free drivers to be blacklisted
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2204 [21:44:24] <wwilliam> how is called the power management
configuration module so I can added to start up ans shutdown?
2205 [21:44:33] <converge> nvz, I would love to keep with Debian,
have been using it for the past 20 years, but I need to move forward
if it doesn't work with the many tries I did
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2207 [21:45:14] <converge> nvz, do you know the steps? Should I
install it using the non free firmware iso?
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2210 [21:45:41] <nvz> converge: BCM4360 with the PCIID 14e4:43a0
and 14e4:4360 are documented as working if done properly
2211 [21:46:07] <nvz> converge: all non-free has in this context
is firmware, this has nothing to do with the issue with the BCM4360
which requires a DRIVER to be built
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2215 [21:47:08] <nvz> converge: you need the wl driver build by
broadcom-sta-dkms
2216 [21:47:14] <nvz> ,i broadcom-sta-dkms
2217 [21:47:16] <judd> Package broadcom-sta-dkms (non-free/kernel,
optional) in buster/amd64: dkms source for the Broadcom STA Wireless
driver. Version: 6.30.223.271-10; Size: 2156.0k; Installed: 14139k;
Homepage:
replaced-url
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2219 [21:47:47] <nvz> converge: the non-free iso would be fine,
but you have additional steps required to build and load the driver
2220 [21:48:06] <converge> nvz, got it. I actually tried it,
downloaded the broadcom-sta-dkms deb file, tried to install it, but
it ask for many kernel headers, and stuff Im not able to download
2221 [21:48:47] <nvz> converge: is this the only machine you have?
no way to hook it up to the internet otherwise?
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2223 [21:49:38] <converge> Nvz, I do have other machines, but the
required header files also ask for other many other packages
2224 [21:49:46] <backnforth> converge, done that, it still
doesn't work
2225 [21:50:10] <backnforth> done that being that I selected my
hdd to boot from
2226 [21:51:06] <nvz> converge: I guess this macbook air
doesn't have ethernet.. and you don't have another perhaps
usb wifi adapter
2227 [21:51:32] <converge> nvz, that's right, I think
I'll buy a usb stick before trying again
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2232 [21:55:04] <backnforth> Sad to say this, but I'm going
to go with Ubuntu instead
2233 [21:55:10] <backnforth> Thanks anyways to all that helped me!
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2235 [21:56:59] <nvz> converge: according to an ubuntu user in
their support channel this wl driver is not on ubuntu by default
either.. the process is the same as debian, the driver must be built
and this requires kernel headers
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2240 [21:59:36] <converge> nvz, just finished the ubuntu
installation, it works without additional steps
2241 [22:02:42] <nvz> converge: if ubuntu works with it, you would
only need to install debian, then boot ubuntu off the
thumdrive/install media and chroot into debian to complete the
installing of the proper packages
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2243 [22:02:57] <nvz> because you'd have network from the
ubuntu media.. so..
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2277 [22:21:56] <wwilliam> how do i start the power management
configuration module in stretch please?
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2282 [22:25:08] <oft_gegong> I have a Debian bug: I install
32-bit/64-bit wine packages into a 64-bit LiveUSB XFCE Debian 10.2,
and what happens is the liveUSB USB gets unmounted and the whole
system crashes.
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2285 [22:27:46] <wwilliam> none of the kde connect settings are
working..
2286 [22:27:53] <wwilliam> how awfull
2287 [22:28:33] <oft_gegong> poor wwilliam. can I help? you want
to start the KDE power management configuration module(s)?
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2289 [22:28:41] <wwilliam> power management configuration module
is not running
2290 [22:28:53] <wwilliam> thoF@eer321
2291 [22:28:57] <oft_gegong> do you need power management? are you
running on battery?
2292 [22:28:58] <wwilliam> damn
2293 [22:29:00] <wwilliam> lol
2294 [22:29:49] <karlpinc> I've just done an "aptitude
update" and gotten a message about pam-auth-update wanting to
update pam-common-*. Having said "no", don't
overwrite, how do I go back and find out what it wanted to change?
2295 [22:30:11] <wwilliam> oft_gegong: no
2296 [22:30:29] <karlpinc> oft_gegong: Did you install debian
packages from debian.org?
2297 [22:30:42] <oft_gegong> karlpinc: yes
2298 [22:31:00] <oft_gegong> karlpinc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure
pam-common-* #or something like that
2299 [22:31:15] <oft_gegong> karlpinc: I'm 3% sure
that'll solve your problem
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2325 [22:52:47] <JackFrost> Hi, so if I have a bunch of
'obsolete' files, as marked in dpkg, what's the
easiest way to clean them up? Normally it takes a purge and
reinstall, but I don't want to do that for this many packages
(and dpkg --force-depends --purge on all of them might not be as
safe.)
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2328 [22:53:46] <oft_gegong> sudo dpkg --clean-obsolete # just
kidding
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2331 [22:55:20] <oft_gegong> so you want to reinstall them or just
purge them?
2332 [22:56:04] <oft_gegong> and by "obsolete" files you
mean "obsolete" packages?
2333 [22:57:07] <JackFrost> Well really I just want to get rid of
the obsolete files, if I could do so without purging that'd be
good. No, obsolete files are files that were shipped from the
package at one point, and no longer are. See: dpkg-query -W
-f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso
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2352 [23:04:34] <Lyberta> is it possible to reset UEFI settings
via Linux?
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2358 [23:07:21] <mtn> as far as I know, you must access the uefi
settings via the boot menu
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2362 [23:08:22] <wwilliam> how to remove and reinstall kde in
debian stretch?
2363 [23:09:09] <mtn> wwilliam: why do you want to reinstall?
2364 [23:09:34] <wwilliam> power settings not enabled
2365 [23:09:41] <wwilliam> unable to found a solution.
2366 [23:10:14] <mtn> wwilliam: you can't fine power
management in system settings?
2367 [23:10:18] <mtn> fine/find
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2373 [23:11:05] <wwilliam> how do i start the power management
configuration module in stretch please?
2374 [23:11:15] <mtn> wwilliam: you can't find power
management in system settings?
2375 [23:11:19] <wwilliam> yes
2376 [23:11:28] <wwilliam> the module is not load it
2377 [23:11:39] <mtn> wwilliam: you can use tasksel to install kde
again, I think
2378 [23:12:27] <wwilliam> this the exact message when trying to
access energy savings settings in system settings
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2380 [23:12:53] <wwilliam> Power Management configuration module
could not be loaded.
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2382 [23:12:58] <Lyberta> mtn, I can't access boot menu
because for some reason changing USB settings made all USB ports
stop working
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2384 [23:13:11] <wwilliam> the power management service appears
not to be running.
2385 [23:13:26] <mtn> Lyberta: what do usb ports have to do with
your system power on menu?
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2388 [23:13:55] <wwilliam> This can be solved by starting or
scheduling it inside "Startup and Shutdown"
2389 [23:14:07] <mtn> Lyberta: you hit some key to access your
uefi settings
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2391 [23:15:25] <Lyberta> mtn, yes, but no keys are working
because of no USB
2392 [23:15:41] <mtn> Lyberta: you only have a usb keyboard?
2393 [23:16:16] <Lyberta> mtn, this is a tablet with only USB,
only touchscreen works but not in boot menu obviously
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2396 [23:17:25] <mtn> Lyberta: I guess your only hope is the
manual or finding support for that tablet
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2401 [23:21:47] <Lyberta> what does /dev/nvram do?
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2428 [23:44:42] <Whyvn> hello, I have a unit service file with a
bash script. The script ran locally runs fine, but when I try to
make a service for it, the command does not find a display. I get
the error Feb 08 14:37:22 debian bash[31194]: Error initializing
osd: No display. The specific command I am using is osd_cat to print
the contents of a file on the screen if the conditions are met.
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2432 [23:48:00] <Whyvn> ugh.. always happends. I look for 15 min
before asking, and right after I ask I find a different variation of
my query and I find a result... I want Environment=DISPLAY=:0 in my
unit file.
2433 [23:48:09] <mihi> Whyvn, you probably need to find some way
to pass the $DISPLAY environment variable of your running X session
to the service
2434 [23:48:47] <mihi> or in case you always have only one X
session open at a time (no user switching), hardcoding :0 as you
wrote should also work
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2438 [23:49:49] <Whyvn> thanks for reply, yeah I only have one
display
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2441 [23:50:51] <mihi> just for the record, it does not matter how
many physical monitors you have, but rather how many users are
logged into X (e.g. because of user switching if your desktop
manager supports it, or because of switching to a text console and
running startx there)
2442 [23:51:12] <mihi> even when you have 3 monitors, but only one
session, $DISPLAY will be :0
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