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3[00:00:42] <skokkk> darkstat -i venet0 -p 666 -b
154.xxx.xx.xx
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9[00:02:07] <skokkk> I am trying to access it via web
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11[00:02:31] <TomTomTosch> that is running on xen or on a vps?
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12[00:02:36] <skokkk> vps
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14[00:03:04] <TomTomTosch> and you try to access it with
154.xxx.xx.xx:666 ?
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15[00:03:09] <skokkk> yes
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17[00:03:22] <jeltz> Why you guys helping Satan
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18[00:03:23] <jeltz> ?
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21[00:04:02] <skokkk>
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26[00:05:17] <TomTomTosch> sry, no idea.
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40[00:07:57] <boxrick1_> I am currently trying to get a GPT
partition working with MDRAID / LVM and really struggling, would
anyone be able to have a look at what I have?
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153[00:52:26] <NapoleonWils0n> hi all
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155[00:52:50] <NapoleonWils0n> vim-gnome for gnome desktop right
and not vim-gtk
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189[01:05:08] <boxrick1_> Can someone help me convert the
following pre-seed into MDRAID?
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190[01:05:09] <boxrick1_>
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194[01:05:40] <boxrick1_> raid 1 in particular
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477[03:27:36] <scrapcode> I'm trying to install debian via
USB using the non-free ISO and it's still not finding iwlwifi
drivers for my lenova
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484[03:30:35] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: can you use ethernet during
the install, then figure out the wifi firmware after the first boot?
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494[03:34:19] <scrapcode> I was hoping not to, if it's
something simple. I figured with the iwlwifi *.deb file on the usb
drive it'd find it but it's not
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497[03:35:16] <th0r> scrapcode, if you can download it to
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498[03:35:37] <scrapcode> i was hoping i wouldnt run into these
issues but already this and my touchpad isnt working =/
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499[03:35:42] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: it usually works. if your
laptop has an iwlwifi device that came out after jessie was
released, then jessie won't have the firmwares for it.
th0r's suggestion is solid
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509[03:38:14] <scrapcode> i don't think that's the
case here either, but thanks.
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510[03:38:30] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: what model is it?
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511[03:38:41] <scrapcode> t520
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512[03:39:30] <scrapcode> it's like 5 years old i believe
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514[03:40:02] <allizom> scrapcode: I think you should unpack the
firmware outside the .deb to have it recognized on the usb drive
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515[03:40:13] <jmcnaught> allizom: no
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516[03:40:33] <potus> scrapcode: thinkpad?
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517[03:40:38] <scrapcode> yes
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518[03:40:46] <jmcnaught> you don't need to unpack the .deb
files. the installer looks for .deb files and loose firmware files
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520[03:40:56] <allizom> my bad, I just read the manual and it
says to do so
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521[03:40:59] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: i meant the model of the
wifi card
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522[03:41:04] <potus> scrapcode: we on same laptop .. im running
debian now.
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523[03:41:11] <scrapcode> jmcnaught, no idea
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524[03:41:33] <scrapcode> intel
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525[03:41:33] <potus> scrapecode: dpkg -i
/mount/usb/../iwlwifi.deb
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526[03:41:39] <potus> reboot and you should be set
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530[03:41:54] <jmcnaught> that's not going to work in the
installer
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531[03:42:03] <scrapcode> i tried that using the secondary term
in installation but it didn't work
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532[03:42:06] <potus> do it after install;
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533[03:42:17] <th0r> if I remember right, the installer asks if
you have drivers on another medium
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534[03:42:26] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: in that other terminal, can
you try "lspci -nn | grep -i net" ?
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535[03:42:29] <potus> th0r: yes it does, i answer no and carry
on.
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536[03:42:31] <scrapcode> potus, i won't have issues after
that... but it's a netinst lol
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538[03:42:49] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: and then come back with the
model and pciid that looks like [abcd:1234]
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539[03:43:12] <potus> scrapcode: install the xfce live cd
version, to give yourself a better set of tools to start, then the
dpkg install will work without internet.
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540[03:43:37] <scrapcode> 8086:0085
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541[03:44:46] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: that is the exact same
model that i have, the firmware iso should work. Are you using this
image?
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542[03:45:13] <scrapcode> jmcnaught, yes.
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545[03:45:26] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: how did you copy it to USB?
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546[03:45:30] <scrapcode> i confirmed the files are in /firmware
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547[03:45:49] <scrapcode> using rufus on win.
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548[03:46:06] <jmcnaught> !rufus
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549[03:46:06] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make
bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use
with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and
unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about
<hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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550[03:46:16] <jmcnaught> !win32diskimager
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551[03:46:16] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
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553[03:46:40] <scrapcode> ah. nice.
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555[03:46:42] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: please try preparing it
again with win32diskimager instead of rufus. rufus and other
programs like it are known to cause problems
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558[03:47:13] <scrapcode> thx
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561[03:47:52] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: good luck. i have an X220,
everything works out of the box
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566[03:50:15] <scrapcode> yeah I had read good things about
these thinkpads and compatability which is a big reason i went with
it
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570[03:50:32] <scrapcode> thanks for the help. I'll check
back in with the results in case something like this comes up again.
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576[03:53:29] <scrapcode> That did the trick, it seems. Thanks!!
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585[03:56:44] <scrapcode> jmcnaught++
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587[03:57:26] <jmcnaught> scrapcode: cheers, enjoy Debian :)
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590[04:01:04] <syntaxity> Hello
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597[04:03:46] <syntaxity> Hello
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598[04:03:58] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: hello. Do you have a Debian
support question?
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600[04:04:14] <syntaxity> I'm not understanding this
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602[04:04:51] <syntaxity> Can anyone read my message?
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604[04:05:00] <syntaxity> I'm not sure this is working
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605[04:05:19] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: you have reached a tech
support chat for Debian. If you do not need support and just want to
chat, you could "/join ##chat"
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606[04:05:55] <syntaxity> how do i set the
nickserv...<password> <email> stuff>
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607[04:06:18] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: support for this IRC
network is in the #freenode channel
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614[04:07:42] <syntaxity> I'm new to all this
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616[04:08:00] <syntaxity> I haven't figured out anything,
even spoofing and wifi cracking
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617[04:08:06] <syntaxity> I need serious help
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618[04:08:18] <boxrick1_> Can anyone help me with a preseed
RAID1 GPT volume. Really struggling to get it working
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619[04:08:23] <boxrick1_> Spent literally hours on it
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620[04:08:37] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: this is not a hacker
channel. if you need help with IRC, please "/join
#freenode" otherwise please be quiet.
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621[04:09:21] <syntaxity> Sorry, but I'm confused. HOw do I
join a chat channel?
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622[04:09:45] <boxrick1_>
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623[04:09:47] <jmcnaught> syntaxity: you type "/join
#freenode" into the place you just typed your question.
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648[04:22:02] <missmbob> without quotes
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654[04:23:08] <sudosudosudo> I'm looking at getting a new
machine for travel purposes. I'll be running debian on it and
programming on it. Does anyone know of any solid machines out right
now that are inexpensive?
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656[04:24:13] <sudosudosudo> Any advice would be much
appreciated
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659[04:26:53] <missmbob> sudosudosudo: i generally get the most
i can afford from refurshied thinkpads.
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661[04:27:00] <KingsQuest> if Microsoft could never be GPL2, but
cannot get rid of it make sense it messes everything up for future
kernels is the reason we deserve chromium-browser on older debians
is because we deserve posix ? squeezy ? LouISE E :D
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664[04:27:42] <KingsQuest> Microsoft could never keep ubuntu.
its GPL2. but they cannot take it away
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665[04:28:04] <KingsQuest> thats my support question in the form
of a suggestion
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669[04:28:51] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: I was thinking about the
thinkpad. Do you happen to have any recommendations on the model?
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672[04:29:05] <valdyn> !confuse KingsQuest
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673[04:29:06] <dpkg> No, them was our snake today, KingsQuest?
Breeches of the Democracy of Mongolia with extra cheese.
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678[04:30:18] <missmbob> sudosudosudo: you'll generally be
fine with anything thinkpad. hard to say since i don't know
you're budget. just take a look at their options
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680[04:31:46] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: I just came into 700$. I
was thinking about in that range or less.
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682[04:32:59] <missmbob> sudosudosudo: you might have to look
around but a refurb t460 would be nice
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689[04:35:24] <sudosudosudo> missmbob: Thanks for the advice. I
will look around. I appreciate you.
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726[04:50:29] <iateadonut> i'd like to have ssh server -e
"tail -f /apache/error_log" auto-run in a window when i
login to my localhost. is there a good program for that, that would
only show the tail -f out put in a window and auto login through ssh
and auto execute the command, and only stop when the window is
closed?
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732[04:52:39] <th0r> iateadonut, there used to be something
called roottail, see if it is still available (OLD knowledge)
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733[04:53:07] <th0r> iateadonut, it won't put it in a
terminal, it puts it on the desktop overlaid on the wallpaper
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735[04:54:00] <iateadonut> thanks. that's the kind of thing
i was looking for
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738[04:56:28] <jmcnaught> iateadonut: which window manager or
desktop environment are you using?
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741[04:58:08] <th0r> iateadonut, it is called root-tail, and is
installing now so it is in the jessie repos
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744[04:59:59] <iateadonut> KDE
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746[05:00:15] <iateadonut> yes, i see; thank th0r
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747[05:00:45] <th0r> iateadonut, there's something to be
said for old....in software and people <smile>
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749[05:01:16] <iateadonut> for now i'm doing this: ssh -t
server "tail -f /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log" -
i'm going to look for ways to have a tiny display with maybe
two lines running at all times on top of all my other windows.
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751[05:01:28] <iateadonut> i never look at my desktop.
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753[05:01:42] <th0r> now you have a reason to
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757[05:03:46] <SamSagaZ_> guys, with apt-get purge remove the
installed app and some conf files, is possible to force to delete
the used files too? for example if i purge apache i want to delete
the /var/replaced-url
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760[05:04:15] <missmbob> SamSagaZ_: purge all installed apps?
reinstall
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762[05:05:07] <pingfloyd> SamSagaZ_: is /var/replaced-url
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763[05:05:07] <SamSagaZ_> want to remove all the installed apps
and conf files, because after install for example apache+php again
get some problems :/
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764[05:05:12] <SamSagaZ_> pingfloyd,
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765[05:05:13] <SamSagaZ_> no
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766[05:05:18] <SamSagaZ_> is not empty
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767[05:05:22] <pingfloyd> that's why it didn't remove
it
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768[05:05:27] <pingfloyd> as it should behave
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769[05:05:45] <missmbob> it'll never delete files the user
put there
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770[05:06:28] <pingfloyd> only thing apt should ever remove is
files that the package installed providing they're not changed
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771[05:06:28] <SamSagaZ_> i know is not possible to force to
remove it? for example apt-get purge apache2 dont remove
/etc/apache2 because inside i have conf-available and mods-available
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772[05:06:57] <missmbob> SamSagaZ_: no. i wasn't kiding.
reinstall or start manually deleting shit. i'd do the first
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777[05:07:33] <SamSagaZ_> missmbob, you say reinstall the Debian
or run apt-get install --reinstall ? :D
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779[05:07:56] <missmbob> reintall debian
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780[05:08:00] <pingfloyd> SamSagaZ_: short answer is you should
just leave it be
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781[05:08:02] <missmbob> reinstall*
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782[05:08:03] <SamSagaZ_> i cant reinstall debian because its an
remote box,
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783[05:08:06] <SamSagaZ_> ok
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784[05:08:07] <SamSagaZ_> :/
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786[05:08:11] <pingfloyd> what are the file hurting?
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788[05:08:13] <missmbob> that means nothing. i do remote
installs all the time
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789[05:08:15] <pingfloyd> files*
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794[05:09:51] <SamSagaZ_> missmbob, you do it over kvm or
something like that?
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795[05:10:09] <missmbob> SamSagaZ_: usually yes
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800[05:10:14] <SamSagaZ_> i see
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816[05:17:11] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: why not just purge the
packages?
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817[05:17:18] <jmcnaught> !confnew
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818[05:17:18] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force
dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can
also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install
<packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall
<packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
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820[05:17:24] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: or do that ^^
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821[05:17:26] <missmbob> that's not what he said he wanted
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822[05:17:32] <missmbob> conf isn't the problem
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824[05:18:03] <missmbob> he wanted it to automatically delete
all the stuff he put places. like in /var/replaced-url
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825[05:18:21] <SamSagaZ_> jmcnaught, i used apt-get -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install and
dont get good results
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826[05:18:26] <SamSagaZ_> still getting some problems
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827[05:18:38] <SamSagaZ_> btw, now i purged all the packages
that was getting problems
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828[05:18:42] <SamSagaZ_> will try to install it again
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830[05:18:56] <SamSagaZ_> (will install using --force-confnew
again)
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831[05:19:18] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you should be able to purge
the packages, then delete /var/replaced-url
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832[05:19:32] <SamSagaZ_> ok
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833[05:20:05] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you should also consider
using etckeeper
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835[05:21:07] <SamSagaZ_> another question, first time that i
installed Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL.. and menu was displayed with some
questions.. after remove it and install it again, no displayed
again.
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836[05:21:28] <SamSagaZ_> i want to clean/purge all the packages
to try to get these menu again...
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837[05:21:32] <missmbob> you can dpkg-reconfigure foo to display
them again
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838[05:21:35] <SamSagaZ_> someone know if i can force it?
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839[05:21:36] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you generally don't
reinstall to reconfigure, you use "dpkg-reconfigure
package"
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840[05:21:40] <SamSagaZ_> oh
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841[05:21:42] <SamSagaZ_> thanks guys!
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842[05:22:34] <SamSagaZ_> after purge recommend me to use
apt-get install or apt-get -o
DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install will
be better?
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843[05:22:55] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: purge removes conf files
(that haven't been locally modified)
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844[05:23:27] <jmcnaught> SamSagaZ_: you should really read a
few of the documents here:
replaced-url
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845[05:23:41] <SamSagaZ_> ok, thanks!
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846[05:23:57] <jmcnaught> it all gets easier when you have a
foundation
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852[05:27:47] <SamSagaZ_> nice, looks like now are installing
everything OK!
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855[05:28:24] <SamSagaZ_> for example last time after
remove/reinstall mysql i get no /etc/mysql/my.cnf, now after install
mariadb get the conf file :)
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/var/log/vsftpd.log, correct?
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939[06:27:44] <KingsQuest> btw, linux rewins posix from oracle.
systemd init busybox package of theirs was stolen and GPL2. fairs
fair. and there's 6 linux packages. thats kewl man. that means
rootkits and things like that -- with absolute no errors like
wayland hack, is the only legal option for this. we've all seen
bloopers actually blunders in things like bash on debian based os
like ubuntu
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940[06:29:04] <KingsQuest> that was microsofts win for Ubuntu
and arch
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945[06:30:30] <KingsQuest> furthermore microsoft did it anyway,
and it stuck. -- because they have to know the law, because i am a
citizen, and they were all federal
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appreciate this would it honor me for a kernel upgrade that gives me
6% boost that i gave to centos. thanks. i'm not ever sure if it
does turbo boost, and i'm scared to find out. i don't want
to burn out my cpu.
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953[06:34:20] <KingsQuest> it supports it and its enabled. i
don't dare set anything to performance, or one other thing i
forgot.
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1025[07:24:32] <klowny_> Anyone know how I can find the exact
location of my network drives on Raspbian to add to my Plex server
library?
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1029[07:25:04] <missmbob> !raspbian
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1030[07:25:04] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
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1034[07:25:57] <klowny_> It's unfortunate raspbian irc seems
dead. :(
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1035[07:26:05] <missmbob> it is unfortunate
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1037[07:26:08] <missmbob> !based on debian
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1038[07:26:09] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
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1039[07:26:13] <missmbob> "even if"
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1042[07:28:17] <klowny_> lol
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1043[07:28:49] <missmbob> wasn't meant to be funny :P
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1044[07:28:58] <klowny_> Yeah, it's more sad.
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1046[07:29:18] <klowny_> Linux has pretty much always been like
that though, no matter what distro you try to get help with.
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1047[07:29:45] <missmbob> yes. always go to the proper place. we
couldn't help if we wanted to. like the bot said, we cant know
what they changed.
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1051[07:30:51] <klowny_> Yeah. Raspbian is so far from Debian.
Practically Windows or iOS.
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1052[07:30:56] <missmbob> it'd be like asking for bash help
in a windows channel since you can get bash in windows
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1054[07:31:36] <missmbob> klowny_: you don't have to
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1055[07:31:44] <klowny_> The point is you TRIED. That's all
that truly matters.
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1057[07:31:59] <missmbob> klowny_: the point is you're
offtopic. /topic
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1058[07:32:03] <klowny_> Never said it wasn't.
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1060[07:32:56] <jmcnaught> klowny_: if #raspbian is dead you can
also try ##linux
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1065[07:34:23] <klowny_> jmcnaught: probably just get a tiny
windows build or something. I should have known better. Getting help
with Linux distros is like reading a book with half the pages torn
out.
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1069[07:37:11] <missmbob> c'mon.
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1070[07:37:30] <missmbob> but kali us based on debian. it's
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1149[08:12:17] <spamming> hello
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1150[08:12:24] <candidat__> hello pork
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1152[08:12:35] <jim> hi
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1153[08:13:12] <spamming> jim thats rude
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1154[08:13:19] <spamming> you greet people by name
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1156[08:13:50] <jim> what's your name?
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1157[08:13:54] <spamming> spamming
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1158[08:14:02] <spamming> nevermind dax fixed it
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1160[08:14:09] <spamming> i spammed the word spamming on
#freenode
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1163[08:14:40] <spamming> until sigyn considered it spam
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1166[08:14:59] <spamming> so saying "spamming" was
kill+kline if sigyn was in the channel
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1167[08:15:10] <spamming> so I wanted you to say my nick
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1168[08:15:13] <spamming> and get klined
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1171[08:15:38] <awal1> !ops spamming flooding/spamming
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1172[08:15:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: awal1 complains
about: spamming flooding/spamming
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1174[08:15:44] <spamming> but dax (staffer) got /kill by sigyn
and now he came back and fixed it
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1177[08:16:00] <dax> (i didn't touch it)
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1179[08:16:09] <spamming> really?
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1181[08:16:38] <jim> I just didn't believe that was your
name
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1192[08:21:33] <habs> When I do "sudo apt-get build-dep
gcc-5", why do I get the message "E: Build-Depends
dependency for gcc-5 cannot be satisfied because the package
gcc-6-base cannot be found"? Why would gcc-5 require gcc-6?
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1193[08:21:55] <somiaj> habs: what deb-src are you using?
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1196[08:24:01] <habs> somiaj: I'm trying to build the
package from source because there's no available version for my
architecture in the jessie repos. Here is my sources.list:
replaced-url
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1200[08:24:46] <habs> So I believe based on that I am using the
stretch deb-src for gcc-5.
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1204[08:27:13] <ransur0t> habs: canadiens fan?
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1207[08:29:05] <habs> ransur0t: Haha sorry to say it doesn't
have to do with the hockey team, I didn't know that when I made
the nick
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1212[08:30:08] <jim> hi... which rt kernels has the CVE-2016-5195
patch been applied to?
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1214[08:30:52] <ransur0t> habs: :)
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1225[08:38:46] <SymbioticFemale> i just installed packages
without verification. how screwed am i?
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1226[08:38:51] <SymbioticFemale> over tor
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1228[08:39:11] <SymbioticFemale> i wasn't paying attention
and "y" without reading "we cannot verify"
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1229[08:39:21] <SymbioticFemale> damnit
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1230[08:39:24] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: where are the
packages from?
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1234[08:39:41] <SymbioticFemale> one sec
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1237[08:40:10] <SymbioticFemale> damnit. i was hoping .onion but
nope
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1239[08:40:19] <SymbioticFemale> ftp.ca.debian.org
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1240[08:40:21] <SymbioticFemale> stretch
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1241[08:40:30] <teus>
replaced-url
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1243[08:40:43] <teus> its in backports, testing and unstable
>:(
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1246[08:40:58] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: .deb packages can run
pre and post install scripts as root. If the packages actually came
from ftp.ca.debian.org you're probably okay
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1247[08:41:20] <SymbioticFemale> yeah but wat if MitM?
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1248[08:41:25] <SymbioticFemale> damnit
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1249[08:41:42] <SymbioticFemale> why would they not have sigs?
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1250[08:42:16] <jmcnaught> teus: did it exist before jessie was
frozen?
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1251[08:42:29] <teus> i have no idea
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1252[08:42:32] <teus> i assume so
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1253[08:42:39] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: i don't know.
also the testing support channel is #debian-next at irc.oftc.net
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1256[08:44:41] <jmcnaught> teus: you can look up the history of
packages here:
replaced-url
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1259[08:45:48] <teus> ok let me have a look
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1261[08:47:15] <teus> i have no idea what to amke from it
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1262[08:47:18] <teus>
replaced-url
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1267[08:48:42] <jmcnaught> teus: what is the earliest news item
you can find? compare that to the date that jessie was frozen
(november 5 2014)
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1268[08:49:26] <teus> earliest mention is 2015
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1270[08:51:16] <teus> i dont get why teh page says its for jessie
8
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1271[08:51:34] <jmcnaught> what page was that?
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1272[08:51:43] <teus> i dont work with this stuff often enough to
stay on top of it
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1274[08:51:47] <teus>
replaced-url
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1277[08:52:48] <jmcnaught> it looks like it needs to be
corrected. it's a wiki if you want to you can
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1278[08:53:51] <teus> im not familiar enough for that
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1279[08:53:54] <teus> i'll open a topic on teh forums
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1280[08:53:56] <teus> to flag it
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1281[08:53:58] <teus> so ehh
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1282[08:54:04] <candidat> hello guys :)
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1283[08:54:09] <teus> i have the pepperflash now, but need a
browser plugin?
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1284[08:54:12] <teus> i can try the backport?
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1285[08:56:20] <candidat> how have you began to learn command
lines ?
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1286[08:56:46] <teus> follow guides :)
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1288[08:57:15] <candidat> teus :)
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1289[08:57:23] <teus> "As of 2015-05, the old
"pepperflashplugin-nonfree" is deprecated in favor of an
official, maintained, one-step package called adobe-flashplugin,
"
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1290[08:57:26] <teus> durp
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1291[08:57:38] <candidat> but the method of searching for each
command line ?
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1292[08:58:29] <teus> google :|
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1293[08:58:30] <teus> or a manual
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1295[08:58:50] <candidat> and a brain...
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1296[08:59:05] <candidat> find asauv/* -newer `ls -t sauv/*` |
xargs tar -cvzf sauv/`date +%s`.tar
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1299[08:59:59] <candidat> what does this command do ?
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1300[09:00:53] <teus> oh
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1301[09:01:05] <teus> look up the manual for "find" and
look for the option "-newer"
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1302[09:01:07] <teus> and "-t"
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1303[09:01:18] <teus> then look up the manual for xargs and tar
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1304[09:01:59] <teus> and it has piping too... to help you a
little, you look for files with "find", all the found
files are then processed by tar
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1306[09:02:26] <teus> xargs is something to parse a large list of
results
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1308[09:02:37] <slax0r> when can one usually expect security
patches for debian kernels?
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1309[09:02:56] <slax0r> I mean, how long after a vulnerability in
a kernel is found does it usually take for the debian team to roll
out a patch?
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1311[09:03:15] <jmcnaught> teus: i don't know where
you're seeing 'deprecated ... adobe-flashplugin', but
yes you should simply use the package in jessie-backports. I updated
the wiki page
replaced-url
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1313[09:04:02] <teus> jmcnaught: thanks man :-)
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1314[09:04:05] <jim> according to
replaced-url
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1315[09:04:21] <jmcnaught> jim: does jessie even have rt kernels?
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1316[09:04:34] <jim> I think it does
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1317[09:04:40] <jmcnaught> ,v linux-image-rt-amd64
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1318[09:04:41] <judd> Package: linux-image-rt-amd64 on amd64 --
wheezy: 3.2+46
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1319[09:05:04] <jim> that would be the right arch too
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1320[09:05:12] <jmcnaught> it's possible there's been
some recently on jessie-backports but i don't see any now
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1321[09:05:40] <jmcnaught> jim: do you have an rt kernel package
for jessie installed?
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1322[09:05:46] <jim> judd should have said some
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1323[09:05:52] <jim> yeah I do
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1324[09:06:04] <jmcnaught> what is the package name then?
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1326[09:06:22] <jim> sec
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1328[09:07:03] <jim> 4.7.0 doesn't have the rt applied (or
it didn't)
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1331[09:08:52] <jelly> dpkg, tell slax0r about tracker of doom
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1333[09:09:16] <jim> linux-image-4.4.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 and
linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64
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1335[09:09:33] <jelly> jim: those are backports
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1337[09:09:36] <^v> recent apt-get upgrade is stuck on
`Installing new version of config file
/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown ...`
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1339[09:09:51] <^v> cant ctrl-c
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1340[09:10:06] <jim> oh, then you meant released with jessie, and
I don't think there are any
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1341[09:10:07] <jelly> jim: that means not covered by security
team
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1343[09:10:18] <SymbioticFemale> jelly, have you ever heard in
here of tor exit nodes serving up compromised package lists and .deb
packages? i find it plausible.... i did something stupid in a chroot
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1347[09:10:56] <jim> jelly, ok, so then they wouldn't have
applied the patch and put out a new kernel
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1349[09:11:08] <jelly> SymbioticFemale: I've heard all sorts
of crazy conspiracy theories.
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1350[09:11:14] <jim> and the backports people wouldn't have
either
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1352[09:11:59] <jelly> jim: the backports are lower priority,
people may get to it when they get to it
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1353[09:12:08] <slax0r> jelly: thanks
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1354[09:12:45] <jim> ok, so then my question becomes... which
jessie kernel images are patched?
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1356[09:13:19] <jelly> jim: patched for what?
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1357[09:13:42] <jelly> jim: /msg dpkg tracker of doom
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1358[09:13:59] <jim> patched for CVE-2016-5195
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1360[09:14:20] <SymbioticFemale> jelly: i apt-get upgrade'd
over tor, to clearnet, and wasn't paying attention. it said
"cannot be verified" and i hit "y" without
reading
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1361[09:14:22] <Rephlexie>
replaced-url
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1363[09:14:35] <jelly> SymbioticFemale: sucks to be you, I guess
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1364[09:14:39] <candidat> thanks teus
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1365[09:14:43] <jim> which linus tried to fix 11 years ago but
gave up because it was too hard to trigger it
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1367[09:15:10] <candidat> teus, it s a good method
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1368[09:15:33] <teus> :)
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1369[09:15:43] <candidat> ;-)
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1371[09:17:45] <jelly> if a user intentionally ignores the one
specific signature check that protects against compromised repos,
anything may be installed
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1377[09:18:46] <SymbioticFemale> yeah jelly i know i'm
screwed. oh well. that system didn't matter.
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1378[09:19:39] <SymbioticFemale> it said do you want to install.
I hit "y" it said cannot be verified, i said
"y". lol. i thought i had mistyped the first "y"
with fat fingers. teaches me for not reading
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1382[09:23:46] <jmcnaught> SymbioticFemale: you could mount the
disk on another system, and check the sha256sums of the .debs in
/var/cache/apt/archive
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1388[09:25:44] <SymbioticFemale> yeah presuming that the .debs
weren't replaced with legit ones after... presuming it is not a
complex pwn. is there an automated way I could check the sha256sums
side by side with the list? I'm scraping my brain for a
solution but I can't remember what it is
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1392[09:26:55] <jmcnaught> there's also debsums to check the
files from packages
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1393[09:27:00] <jmcnaught> it would be tedious
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1395[09:27:25] <SymbioticFemale> k
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1396[09:27:27] <jelly> don't have to remember a specific
solution at all, just write a one-time script that creates two well
ordered lists and diff them
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1398[09:27:51] <SymbioticFemale> k
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1399[09:28:14] <candidat> lol
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1409[09:33:21] <JyZyXEL> where do you configure how many boot
logs journalctl stores?
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1418[09:36:27] <jmcnaught> JyZyXEL: you might not be able to
configure how many boots, but there are time and size limits you can
configure in /etc/systemd/journald.conf (there's a man page for
this file too)
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1435[09:44:25] <SymbioticFemale> where can I curl the package
lists from?
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1438[09:44:37] <SymbioticFemale> i should get them now before
they potentially change with updates
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1439[09:44:53] <SymbioticFemale> locally or online
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1441[09:45:15] <SymbioticFemale> package lists/sha256sum lists
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1443[09:45:33] <jelly> you already have them in
/var/lib/apt/lists/
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1445[09:45:57] <SymbioticFemale> k
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1446[09:46:06] <SymbioticFemale> thanks jelly
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1450[09:48:05] <jelly> repos get updates 3-4 times a day tho
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1453[09:48:50] <SymbioticFemale> i know. i'll be able to
handle it from here. thanks
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1454[09:48:59] <surfist> where can I find old kernel headers? say
for 4.3.0 ?
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1455[09:49:28] <jelly> surfist: snapshot.debian.org
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1457[09:49:59] <SymbioticFemale> he left after i called him out
on the claim that he had a girlfriend
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1458[09:50:00] <surfist> so I play with sources.list ?
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1459[09:50:09] <SymbioticFemale> ...wrong room.........
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1460[09:50:24] <surfist> s/so/do
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1463[09:51:21] <jelly> surfist: play? You add the line for a
timestamped repo you need
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1464[09:51:36] <surfist> dunno much about snapshots yet
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1465[09:51:51] <jelly> did you read the Usage
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1466[09:52:23] <surfist> just starting out... seeking info
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1468[09:53:05] <surfist> I can add to sources.list but am not
sure if it's the preferred mechanism in this case
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1470[09:53:33] <jelly> it might be nicer if you read the fine
documentation FIRST, then asked questions about it if something was
unclear
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1472[09:53:50] <surfist> where might these lovely docs be? :)
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1474[09:54:03] <jelly> surfist: snapshot.debian.org
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1475[09:54:11] <surfist> nm staring at the site yay :)
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1476[09:54:19] <surfist> well, it's a start
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1477[09:54:21] <jelly> srsly
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1479[09:54:52] <surfist> I have six screens running lots of
switching
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1481[09:55:09] <jelly> people volunteer their free time in here
answering question, it's best not waste their time on repeating
what's already on the site
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1482[09:55:26] <surfist> thanks for the good lead
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1491[09:57:43] <surfist> it's still gonna be a long hunt..
for kernel version and sources.. but whatever
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1532[10:09:13] <M4GNV5> *me
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1544[10:13:58] <adac> Is there a way to install java 7 oracle
directly via an extra repository?
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1549[10:15:45] <Stummi> adac, oracle java 7 is EOL, you probably
don't want to use it
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1551[10:16:42] <jmcnaught> adac: openjdk-7 is not working for
you?
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1552[10:16:43] <adac> Stummi, yes I also rather would not, but I
have some problems with open-xchange and I wanted to test if it
maybe works with oracle java 7 or 8
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1553[10:16:57] <adac> jmcnaught, ^^
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1554[10:17:03] <jmcnaught> ,i java-package
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1555[10:17:04] <judd> Package java-package (contrib/misc,
optional) in jessie/amd64: Utility for creating Java Debian
packages. Version: 0.56; Size: 20.1k; Installed: 87k
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1556[10:17:34] <jmcnaught> adac: look at the full description of
that package
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1557[10:17:43] <adac> kk, thanks
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1561[10:18:09] <Stummi> jmcnaught, I would try java 8 first. You
can just download the oracle package as .tar.gz, extract it
somewhere (like /opt/java/oracle-java-8)
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1562[10:18:41] <adac> yes I try 8
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1563[10:18:56] <jmcnaught> Stummi: or convert the tarball into a
.deb with java-package
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1565[10:19:31] <TomTomTosch> openjdk 7 doesn't reach eol for
the next two years.
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1567[10:19:53] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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1568[10:20:18] <Stummi> TomTomTosch, he said he wants the oracle
java instead of openjdk
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1569[10:20:38] <jmcnaught> i still recommend using openjdk, but
if you think there's some value in looking for the bug in
oracle java that's how you can do it
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1572[10:21:50] <Stummi> I understood it as, something
doesn't work with the openjdk and he wants to check if it works
with oracles JRE or JDK instead
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1576[10:24:02] <adac> Stummi, that is correct. Since no one has a
solution for my problem I want to try it now with oracle 8
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1581[10:24:54] <Stummi> adac, what exactly is your problem if you
don't mind telling us?
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1597[10:28:26] <adac> Stummi, sure! I try to register an
open-xchange server, according to the setup guide of open-xchange,
however I get this error:
replaced-url
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1598[10:28:56] <skokkk> hi there, I have a weird question. How do
I force apt-get to install ip4 and not via ipv6
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1604[10:30:34] <adac> Stummi, there are basically 2 entries in
google when searching for the error "Look-up failed. Service
"OXUtil_V2" is not available." and #open-xchange is
very quite and the one guy that answered me had no clue about what
this error is about.
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1610[10:33:53] <Stummi> adac, I don't believe an oracle JDK
would help here, since the the differences between OpanJDK and
Oracles JDK are quite subtile (IIRC theres just some additional
support through proprietary libs regarding multimedia stuff)
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1615[10:35:38] <skokkk> someone able to help?
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1616[10:35:46] <Stummi> But I too can't help you further
with that problem, since I don't know anything about
open-xchange
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sysctl apt wont touch it
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1628[10:40:19] <Guest17135> does anyone know how to save minicom
configs in directory other than /etc/minicom
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1632[10:42:30] <ANTI_microchip> fuck israeli supreme court
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! know fuck israeli supreme court !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! know
your enemy israeli supreme court ---------------on youtube your
enemy israeli supreme court ---------------on youtube
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1709[11:15:08] <candidat> what 'my cmd' means ?
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1710[11:15:23] <candidat> ' <--- ?
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1712[11:16:08] <petemc> single quotes means no interpolation
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1714[11:16:53] <Shadur> You want interpolation, use backtics ( `
<- that one )
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1717[11:17:27] <Foloex> hello world
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1719[11:17:44] <Shadur> `mycmd` basically executes mycmd and
yields the output as a string.
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1721[11:19:15] <Foloex> I trying to connect a laptop to two
screens, one using HDMI the other VGA. The HDMI part works fine but
the VGA screen doesn't react, it just goes to standby mode. The
display is detected and set as "secondary display". I
tried changing the resolution, the frequency and putting it in
mirror mode, the screen doesn't care.
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1722[11:19:45] <Foloex> The screen works, I tested it with a
desktop machine just before.
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1724[11:20:33] <Foloex> I'm not sure which display is used,
I have a AMD GPU and the intel graphic GPU built into the i7
processor
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1725[11:21:16] <Foloex> both dri and fglrx are installed. The
laptop is running debian testing (to have the latest dri drivers)
and gnome-shell 3.22.1.
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1726[11:21:42] <Foloex> I'm running out of idea on what to
try..;
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1734[11:25:30] <candidat> thanks petemc and Shadur
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1738[11:28:01] <candidat> {
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1747[11:32:55] <djp_> some advice please. i have a very low end
netbook running debian wheezy. of the two, sdl or gtk, which is less
resource intensive or is there no difference? just considering which
versions of certain apps i should install.
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1766[11:43:06] <Shadur> sdl and gtk aren't the same thing.
sdl is mostly used for games, gtk is for window decorations.
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1767[11:43:15] <Emil> It depends entirely on what you do
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1768[11:43:39] <Emil> if you build barebones things with sdl it
is more lightweight than gtk (but a lot less flexible)
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1769[11:43:52] <Emil> There is also less depencies with sdl
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1772[11:44:05] <Emil> But if you already have the depencies then
eh
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1784[11:49:48] <n4dir> djp_: the main problem will probably be
the web-browser. In my case it easily eats 3 times as much
ressources as all the rest.
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1786[11:50:18] <n4dir> trying to do as much as possible from the
commandline is probably a good idea.
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1790[11:51:57] <gebruiker> how do I know if my swap is
on/mounted/being used?
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1793[11:52:55] <flokuehn> gebruiker: issue swapon on the cli.
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1794[11:53:22] <flokuehn> gebruiker: it should show you all stats
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1796[11:54:47] <flokuehn> gebruiker: swapon -s show an summary
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1799[11:55:51] <ahn0st> hello
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1801[11:56:11] <ahn0st> debian how do i restore default panel ?
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1805[11:56:37] <epsilon> gebruiker: and free shows the swap space
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1806[11:56:51] <ahn0st> ??
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1810[11:58:11] <ahn0st> debian reset xfce to default?
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1816[12:00:55] <gebruiker> flokuehn: epsilon: when i type mount i
do not see swap
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1820[12:01:40] <djp_> Shadur Emil n4dir thank you
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1824[12:02:45] <n4dir> djp_: the distribution antix has good
ideas for low-resources apps. But you could also simply ask for a
small app for a certain task (for example here).
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1825[12:03:06] <n4dir> i think xfce4 is a good way to go, but
that is me.
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1826[12:03:15] <gebruiker> xfce4 is aweome
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1827[12:03:19] <gebruiker> i am running it too
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1829[12:03:55] <n4dir> gebruiker: :-)
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1832[12:04:52] <n4dir> in my case it defaults to something like
70 MB, after boot. But, like said, webbrowser makes it all null and
void in the blink of an eye ....
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1833[12:05:17] <flokuehn> gebruiker: you usually do not see swap
space via mount command
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1835[12:05:57] <flokuehn> gebruiker: you can only see it with
free, cat /proc/swaps and/or swapon
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1842[12:07:27] <sheepman> Just tried to use the dirtyc0w exploit
on an old squeeze server and it doesn't work, but yet it does
on another old wheezy server?
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1849[12:08:46] <bezaban> sheepman: vulnerabilities may be
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1850[12:09:11] <sheepman> bezaban: well, Squeeze is too old now
so as patched as it could be. Wheezy not yet.
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1865[12:11:34] <sheepman> bezaban: just odd that according to all
the info it 'should' be given the kernel version
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1866[12:11:37] <bezaban> oh right. dirtycow is that one,
that's supposed to have been present in squeeze.
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1871[12:12:35] <sheepman> yeah exactly! bit odd. At least the poc
doesn't seem to work anyway
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1880[12:14:49] <yossarianuk> sheepman: DirtyCowq only affects
kernel 2.6.22 +
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1883[12:15:08] <sheepman> yossarianuk: its running 2.6.32-5-amd64
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1888[12:16:13] <yossarianuk> ah - I thought it used 2.6.18...but
that was etch.
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1890[12:17:05] <sheepman> tried on another build of squeeze,
didn't work either
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1891[12:17:44] <sheepman> anyone else have an old machine running
squeeze that wants to test too ? ;)
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1901[12:20:39] <yossarianuk> i don't have time today
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1907[12:22:36] <sheepman> there is something funny with it, or at
least the poc as i have two different wheezy vm's that both
should be exploitable but only one is
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1911[12:24:38] <_shaun_> hi guys i cant get my mint install to
pick up my bluetooth headphones and ive followed the standard
procedures on the net
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1914[12:24:54] <_shaun_> as per
replaced-url
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1917[12:25:37] <exptom> Hi, I'm trying to get an LVM volume
that is located on an iSCSI storage device to mount automatically at
boot time. I have added _netdev to fstab but it still doesnt mount.
I have to run vgchange -ay after boot to detect it. Any ideas?
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1932[12:32:33] <BadCodSmell> Why am I getting this all of a
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1950[12:39:45] <gebruiker> i.e for when it is dark and the
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1964[12:46:44] <xVim> Hi. Does anyone know why I still get
program output to my bash shell after the command "xdg-open
file.pdf > /dev/null 2>&1 & disown"?
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1966[12:47:32] <xVim> I thought that I have a background task
after that no longer connected to my bash shell, with its STDOUT and
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1975[12:53:21] <xVim> teraflops: Opening files from command line
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1976[12:53:37] <teraflops> xVim: xdg-open file && exit
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1978[12:53:53] <teraflops> the output you get is from disown I
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1981[12:54:48] <xVim> teraflops: I want to keep my shell open
after that command. The output I get is not from disown, but from my
pdf reader (okular).
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1982[12:54:49] <teraflops> && exit if you want to close
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1983[12:55:13] <xVim> teraflops: The weird thing is that lots of
output is suppressed from okular, but not all.
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1985[12:55:25] <teraflops> xVim: no idea if okular
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1988[12:56:15] <xVim> teraflops: Thanks for helping anyway. I
think the issue here is not okular, but somehow my redirection is
not working as it should.
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2018[13:10:55] <djp_> n4dir: i currently use ratpoison
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2020[13:11:59] <n4dir> djp_: i fooled with it too. sticked to
awesome for a while. In the end i enjoy the comfort of xfce.
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2039[13:21:09] <matthias3> hi
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2040[13:21:24] <matthias3> exit
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2044[13:24:11] <mkwia> hi all, I am having an issue wiht audio,
it works on my headphones, but not speakers
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2051[13:25:59] <no_gravity> Hello! When I time a script with
"time myscript.sh" and "real" is much higher
then "user"+"sys" that means most of the time
was spent waiting for io?
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2056[13:26:37] <gebruiker> no_gravity: please see #bash
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2059[13:27:30] <no_gravity> gebruiker: ?
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2062[13:28:54] <mrtrump> debian is kikn butt for me
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2063[13:29:05] <mrtrump> JFS seems awesome
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2064[13:29:07] <mrtrump> sofar.
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2066[13:29:21] <mrtrump> anyone got opinion on XFS v JFS?
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2071[13:30:12] <mrtrump> JFS seemed to perform better and be more
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2072[13:30:39] <gebruiker> mrtrump: tried them both both
eventually reverted back to ext4 as I saw some benchmarks online
that convinced me ext4 was better, even with options where
journaling was off.
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2073[13:30:42] <mrtrump> I did notice XFS does this freaky like
almost instant format, is this because it doles out inodes on the
fly liek reiser?
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2078[13:30:57] <mrtrump> waaa
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2079[13:31:09] <mrtrump> In things I read ext4 was totally
inferior
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2082[13:31:18] <gebruiker> interesting
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2087[13:32:38] <tdn> I get this warning in syslog: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 7: can't verify hostname:
<somehostname> I have ALL: ALL in my hosts.deny file. So why
do I recieve this warning?
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2089[13:32:58] <bolt> just use what works for you. don't
rely on an online benchmark that doesn't match your usecase
whatsoever. what are you doing anyway, that causes your filesystem
to become a potential bottleneck?
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2090[13:33:02] <mrtrump> probly no reverse DNS setup
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2092[13:33:34] <mrtrump> I have 2.5 T of movies and files and
have them on usb external drive usb2 connector :(
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2093[13:34:09] <bolt> your file system probably doesn't
matter at all then
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2095[13:34:19] <bolt> ..as long as you use a modern one
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2096[13:34:23] <mrtrump> lately even at consulting jobs, disk is
always the bottle nexk
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2099[13:34:45] <mrtrump> yeah Ima nut tho I want every advantage
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2100[13:34:51] <bolt> disk, yes. file system - probably not
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2101[13:34:52] <mrtrump> 23 years doing unix
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2103[13:35:07] <mrtrump> I can use what I learn on consulting
gigz
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2105[13:35:30] <mrtrump> Im looking at some 8 bay usb3 arrays for
my next pc
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2107[13:35:43] <bolt> still, your file system is probably
irrelevant
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2108[13:35:52] <mrtrump> no its quite relevant
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2109[13:35:58] <bolt> how so?
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2111[13:36:14] <mrtrump> you will find it is you who are
mistaken, young skywalker, about a great many things!
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2113[13:36:29] <bolt> please explain how the file system affects
your current usecase
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2114[13:36:30] <mrtrump> because when you run a 22T server as I
am at work
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2115[13:36:41] <mrtrump> the filesystem choice can affect
performance of the raid 10
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2116[13:36:47] <mrtrump> and it adds up
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2117[13:36:49] <mrtrump> things matter
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2118[13:36:53] <mrtrump> thats why Im voting trump
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2121[13:37:23] <mrtrump> the real question is how large file is
large, where supposedly XFS does better
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2122[13:37:28] <mrtrump> 100m?
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2123[13:37:30] <mrtrump> 500m?
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2124[13:37:37] <bolt> if you're going to use an online file
system benchmark to determine which file system to deploy on your
file server at work, it's most likely you who have something to
learn
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2125[13:37:39] <mrtrump> wheere is the large lrage?
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2132[13:37:50] <mrtrump> I said I sued 14
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2133[13:38:00] <mrtrump> 14 different sites I did wahts called
reading
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2134[13:38:03] <mrtrump> you should try it
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2135[13:38:12] <mrtrump> then you wotn be so poor and uppity
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2136[13:38:20] <mrtrump> and so fast to give bad advice when you
dont know anything
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2137[13:38:38] <mrtrump> or speak from experience
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2138[13:38:44] <mrtrump> it sesm you speak from inexperience
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2140[13:38:55] <mrtrump> I went to a better college than you too
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2141[13:38:57] <mrtrump> :)
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2142[13:38:59] <bolt> are you done?
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2143[13:39:00] <mrtrump> yeahhhh
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2144[13:39:04] <mrtrump> your not me
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2145[13:39:15] <bolt> troll.
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2146[13:39:21] <mrtrump> elf!
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2149[13:40:09] <mrtrump> milleniaal I pity
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2150[13:40:18] <mrtrump> they will neve rplay palaldium rpg 1st
edition
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2159[13:41:00] <Shadur> If only it were that easy in real life.
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2160[13:41:07] <no_gravity> Which of these two CPUs would you
expect to be faster?
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2161[13:41:10] <no_gravity> Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2683 v3 @
2.00GHz
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2162[13:41:14] <no_gravity> Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5630 @ 2.13GHz
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2171[13:43:03] <gustavohmsilva> hi
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2172[13:43:17] <gustavohmsilva> Running
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2173[13:43:24] <gustavohmsilva> aweeeeeesome!
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2174[13:43:57] <gustavohmsilva> this
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2175[13:44:28] <gry> hi, first time debian install ?
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2176[13:44:51] <OpenTokix> no_gravity: I dont think you will see
any noticable difference by the pure GHz - depends on the overall
performance of the other parts. And your workloa.
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2177[13:44:52] <Stummi> no_gravity, at first sigt, the E5 seems
to have better specs. However it probably depends on the use case
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2178[13:45:19] <gustavohmsilva> nah,
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2179[13:45:42] <no_gravity> I am comparing two VMs and wonder why
one of them is 25% faster.
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2182[13:46:46] <gustavohmsilva> no_gravty,
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2183[13:47:12] <gry> gustavohmsilva: ask your question,
don't just highlight people please :)
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2187[13:48:06] <Stummi> no_gravity, and the two processors are
what runs the host under the VMs?
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2188[13:48:27] <gustavohmsilva> Are
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2189[13:48:58] <no_gravity> Stummi: dunno. its just what is in
/proc/cpuinfo
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2190[13:49:09] <Stummi> no_gravity, okay. how do you measure what
runs faster?
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2194[13:49:50] <no_gravity> Stummi: I played back web traffic to
Apache.
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2196[13:50:15] <no_gravity> And measured how fast it processed
the requests.
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2198[13:50:38] <Stummi> uh, okay? Are you sure CPU is the
bottleneck for your apache processing requests?
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2199[13:50:56] <no_gravity> Stummi: Not at all. I just wondered
why one VM is 25% faster then the other.
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2200[13:51:06] <no_gravity> Disk seems to be way slower on the
faster machine.
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2201[13:51:15] <no_gravity> As measured by a simple dd command :)
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2206[13:52:25] <Stummi> I am afraid thats not a trival thing to
find out. Finding the bottleneck in complex setups can turn out to
be very difficult
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2207[13:52:33] <gustavohmsilva> i
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2210[13:55:10] <gustavohmsilva> guys?
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2212[13:55:35] <beezlebug1> i am new to linux and must administer
a squid server. on the client the site open slowly. the server is
not under heavy load. i have done a speedtest. The speedtest takes
long to start, but then it works fine (reaching the expected speed).
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2213[13:55:36] <beezlebug1> As soon as the clients bypass squid,
the performance is much better.
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2214[13:55:38] <beezlebug1> Since i administer an another squid
on weaker hardware and still obtain better results there (identical
provider speed), i suspect something might be wrong or suboptimal
with the squid configuration
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2215[13:55:39] <beezlebug1> the hardware of the squid server is
sufficient. any recommandations?
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2216[13:55:41] <beezlebug1> How can i detect where the
performance hog is under linux? i.e. how can i detect if a process
eats away at disk/memory/network resources and which?
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2217[13:56:20] <colo-work> ,v autokey-gtk
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2218[13:56:21] <judd> Package: autokey-gtk on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.90.1-1.1; jessie: 0.90.4-1; sid: 0.90.4-1; stretch: 0.90.4-1
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2224[13:58:03] <gustavohmsilva> can
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2225[13:59:08] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, I have a problem with
Apache and vhosts. I have two domains on one IP and set different
headers for both in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ but only one domain
sends the header. I have a shortend paste of the config file at:
replaced-url
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2227[14:00:31] <FinalX> Bliepo: The second URL is identical to
the first; and perhaps #httpd is more what you need, rather than
#debian :) (there as well)
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2231[14:01:39] <Bliepo> FinalX: ah, I'll join #httpd then.
But I don't understand, to me the second URL seems different?
Or am I missing something?
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2232[14:01:53] <FinalX> You linked
replaced-url
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2233[14:02:05] <Bliepo> Ah
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2234[14:02:20] <Bliepo> I was looking at the config file. I see
now.
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2261[14:11:58] <SpComb> hi, I have a packaging question for
expressing a Breaks on a specific major version of a package
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2262[14:12:04] <SpComb> specifically, something like this:
Breaks: docker.io (>= 1.10), docker.io (<< 1.11)
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2264[14:12:33] <SpComb> the docker.io 1.10 package is built with
Go 1.6 and it breaks with old docker clients (replaced-url
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2265[14:12:43] <SpComb> but docker.io 1.9 and 1.11 are fine
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2270[14:13:18] <SpComb> but yeah, that Breaks line doesn't
work; dpkg: regarding .../kontena-agent_0.16.0.dev6-1_all.deb
containing kontena-agent: kontena-agent breaks docker.io (>=
1.10) docker.io (version 1.12.1-0ubuntu13~16.04.1) is present and
installed.
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2272[14:14:04] <bolt> i think those are "or"'ed
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2273[14:14:10] <bolt> so you're breaking everything :)
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2276[14:14:45] <Agiofws> hello
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2278[14:15:14] <jelly> SpComb: which dpkg version are you using?
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2281[14:15:48] <SpComb> this is packaging targeting Ubuntu
xenial, so dpkg=1.18.4ubuntu1.1
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2283[14:16:15] <jelly> probably want to ask the ubuntu maintainer
then
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2286[14:16:41] <SpComb> same dpkg 1.18 version as in current
debian (1.18.10)
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2288[14:17:33] <jelly> that is... not the same version at all
really
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2290[14:18:06] <jelly> sadly I don't know of a channel to
ask dpkg questions in, this channel is for Debian specifically
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2292[14:18:25] <jelly> however you're welcome to try
reproducing the issue on an actual Debian setup
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2295[14:18:33] <jelly> _then_ ask here
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2296[14:20:04] <SpComb> I'll try OFTC #packaging then
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2303[14:21:35] <jelly> nod
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2308[14:22:20] <wrksx> I have an issue with email
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2309[14:22:59] <wrksx> when I send an email with the mail
command, how is the mail actually sent?
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2313[14:27:51] <teraflops> wrksx: depends on the *mail command*
you installed
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2314[14:27:56] <Embrik_> Hi all! Is it possible to set my
lubuntu-laptop to wake up when ac power is connected? I am setting
up this laptop with a broken screen for a friend of mine. It would
have been awesome let the laptop be closed, with the external screen
on top of it. And just start it up by connecting the power
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2317[14:28:31] <teraflops> wrksx:
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2324[14:32:03] <bolt> Embrik_: #ubuntu
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2326[14:34:21] <wrksx> teraflops, thank you
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2327[14:34:37] <teraflops> Embrik_: this channel is for debian
support only, please try #ubuntu
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2328[14:34:41] <teraflops> wrksx: np
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2331[14:35:14] <jelly> wrksx: the mail command uses
/usr/sbin/sendmail to put the mail to the queue of a MTA. What
happens then depends on the MTA you have installed
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2332[14:35:46] <wrksx> jelly, right thx
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2337[14:37:51] <wrksx> jelly, looks like my coinfigured MTA is
exim
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2345[14:39:41] <DotHack> hi fellow debianers, i am lloking for a
tool to do a queued remote file copy, something like uucp, but then
with scp or something. Anybody got a clue if this exists?
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2348[14:41:30] <bolt> DotHack: queued how?
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2349[14:41:38] <wrksx> DotHack, "but then with scp"
what does that mean?
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2350[14:42:01] <bolt> rsync?
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2351[14:42:37] <DotHack> bolt: we have some system that still use
uucp. with uucp i can copy a file to a remote system, but instead of
being copied immediatly it is placed into a queue
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2354[14:42:57] <jelly> DotHack: so why not keep using uucp?
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2356[14:43:24] <DotHack> jelly: i thought maybe it was
superseeded by now..
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2362[14:44:14] <nutsack> nutsack
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2363[14:44:18] <nutsack> nutsack
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2372[14:44:50] <nutsack> nutsack
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2377[14:45:11] <morf> haha :) ok
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nutsack nutsack nutsack
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2388[14:45:47] <morf> only nuts no ack
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2394[14:46:56] <themill> nutsack: try growing a pair first.
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2400[14:47:50] <wrksx> What is usually called a "mail
server"? a combination of MTA + MDA?
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2406[14:50:45] <jelly> wrksx: or any of those components.
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2410[14:51:16] <wrksx> jelly, okay so "mail server" has
no clear meaning actually
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2417[14:52:53] <jelly> wrksx: that's about right.
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2423[14:56:20] <[exa]_> Hi everyone. It might have been already
asked here several thousand times today, but..... is there a .deb
with dirtycow-patched kernel for stretch?
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2430[14:59:00] <TomTomTo1>
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2431[14:59:09] <TomTomTo1> sid already has it patched, stretch
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2438[15:02:07] <niko> themill: sorry for the previous missfire
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2467[15:09:50] <Paul^^> hello all
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2479[15:13:48] <wrksx> When cron sends mail, I suppose it uses
the same config/MTA than the mail command, is that right?
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2495[15:17:48] <Paul^^> how may I use ssh throught sock5 to
connect to a sshd server ?
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2499[15:18:35] <Paul^^> I don't mean ssh forwarding , ok ?
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2501[15:19:03] <jelly> wrksx: pretty much the same, that is,
/usr/sbin/sendmail
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2506[15:19:58] <wrksx> jelly, isn't that *precisely* the
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2515[15:22:26] <bmr> Paul^^, use ProxyCommand with nc, or another
tunneling client
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2518[15:22:38] <bmr> Paul^^,
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2520[15:23:10] <bmr> ('man ssh_config' for details on
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2527[15:26:27] <Paul^^> bmr, ssh haven't this feature inside
? must it use another program for the tunnel ?
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2553[15:35:15] <ullf09721> Is someone know where cam I get
aircrack-ng?
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2554[15:35:56] <TomTomTo1> ,i aircrack-ng
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2555[15:35:57] <judd> Package aircrack-ng (net, optional) in
jessie/amd64: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. Version:
1:1.2-0~beta3-4; Size: 424.7k; Installed: 1724k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2560[15:37:15] <TomTomTo1> using your package manager one would
presume.
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2562[15:38:18] <Paul^^> is it possible craack wpa2 / psk ?
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2563[15:38:25] <Paul^^> crack
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2565[15:38:34] <ihre> deauth attack is more viable
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2568[15:38:43] <ihre> but thats more of a social engineering
trick
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2569[15:39:01] <TomTomTo1> depends on password strength.
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2572[15:39:33] <User__> Usually to hack wpa2you need to know a
structure of wpa2<,how does it work
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2573[15:39:40] <Paul^^> is it work as john the ripper ? you have
a vocabolary and try ?
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2576[15:39:54] <TomTomTo1> usually, yes.
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2577[15:40:15] <Paul^^> onestly , I don't know very well
criptography
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2584[15:40:55] <TomTomTo1> the lesson is, allways use strong
passwords ^^
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2585[15:40:58] <TomTomTo1> *always
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2591[15:41:14] <Paul^^> cripttography algoritm are unique , so
knowing the cipher string is impossible reverse it , only try
billion of combination
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2593[15:41:26] <Paul^^> unique verse I mean
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2595[15:41:36] <ullf09721> aircrack-ng is aggod programm to hack
wpa/wpa2
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2596[15:41:40] <ullf09721> good
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2598[15:42:40] <Paul^^> I know aircrack-ng suite , to spoof
mac-adress need of particular wifi card and patched drivers
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2603[15:43:40] <Paul^^> I know only as crack old wep... sorry
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2604[15:43:44] <ihre> I'm trying to get a smb(cifs?) mount
to work on boot with debian jessie. I've added _netdev to the
fstab line, but it still fails to mount on boot (error -113). I
guess I could write a systemd service file for it, or is that the
actual 'new way'?
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2605[15:43:51] <TomTomTo1> if you want to talk about hacking,
freenode is not the right place. stay on the right side of the law.
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2606[15:44:04] <ullf09721> ok
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2607[15:44:15] <Paul^^> ok, excuse me
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2609[15:44:45] <al3xv3gas> hi
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2610[15:44:49] <ullf09721> hi
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2613[15:45:09] <al3xv3gas> Are there any OS devs in here?
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2616[15:45:29] <eumel> @ihre, what error message is mount -a
failing with?
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2617[15:45:30] <al3xv3gas> If so, I would like to ask a question
concerning the Debian kernel!
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2619[15:46:09] <ihre> eumel: mount -a always works, its just upon
boot, CIFS VFS: Error connecting to socket. Aborting operation.
& CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -113
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2620[15:46:12] <ullf09721> everything about debian kernel you can
find in the web
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2624[15:46:53] <ihre> eumel: fstab line = //1.1.1.1/share
/mnt/share cifs user=foo,pass=bar,_netdev 0 0
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2628[15:48:24] <jelly> al3xv3gas: why not just ask anyway
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2629[15:48:34] <jelly> !ask
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2630[15:48:34] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2636[15:50:32] <eumel> @ihre: strange, when mounting works when
the system is online it should also work on reboot
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2642[15:52:10] <al3xv3gas> If I have a series of Python terminal
applcations and I have read a little bit about OS development, then
how would I make a system where the user boots up the system and the
OS loads for a while and then oots into the main applicatio that is
a terminl app writen in Python so its supposed to basically be a
development platform. What components do I need to make this and
what do I need to do? The Python applications are there and
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2648[15:52:54] <eumel> @ihre, can you try to mount the share on
ip-basis?
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2650[15:53:43] <eumel> @ihre, 113 means no route to host, maybe
there's an dns / dhcp problem occurring somewhere?
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2662[15:55:14] <al3xv3gas> The only stock packages that should be
included are the Python distributions including Python3 and PIP.
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2669[15:57:13] <jelly> al3xv3gas: huh, that actually has nothing
to to with the kernel component or OS development
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2670[15:57:37] <eumel> not really
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2674[15:58:03] <jelly> !next
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2675[15:58:03] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2677[15:58:25] <ihre> eumel: I'm not sure what you mean with
ip-basis? I'm using the actual IP at the moment, instead of a
dns record
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2680[15:58:50] <JordiGH> Can I restart Linux without rebooting?
What's that ksplice thing?
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2683[15:59:07] <eumel> @ihre: sry, you're right, forget
about that
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2684[15:59:29] <ihre> oh well, time to go home and figure it out
on monday ^^
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2685[15:59:47] <ihre> thanks for your time eumel :)
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2687[15:59:50] <eumel> @ihre: can you tell us which version of
debian you're running?
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2690[16:00:01] <eumel> @ihre: okay, bye ihre
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2691[16:00:06] <JordiGH> Crap, backported Linux doesn't get
security fixes, eh?
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2692[16:00:17] <JordiGH> Linux chloe 4.4.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP
Debian 4.4.6-1~bpo8+1 (2016-03-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2693[16:00:20] <JordiGH> Am I vulnerable?
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2697[16:00:43] <greycat> JordiGH: most likely there are some bugs
which your kernel still has, yes.
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2698[16:00:58] <ihre> eumel: fwiw, debian jessie 8.5,
3.16.0-4-amd64 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3
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2699[16:01:00] <JordiGH> Because backports don't get
security fixes, right?
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2700[16:01:15] <greycat> Your particular backported kernel
isn't even *there* any more.
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2701[16:01:23] <greycat> ,kernels
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2702[16:01:24] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686
(4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports:
4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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2707[16:03:32] <eumel> @ihre: can you update to 8.6? found some
links on google talking about a bug in an older version of cifs,
could help.
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2708[16:03:36] <JordiGH> Eh, it's a local exploit.
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2729[16:08:06] <nwe> hello! I have a strange problem I using
debian with preseed files, When I installing a bare-metal server the
configuration of the disk will be correct my / 30GB but when I
running the same preseed in a virtual machine, it taking the whole
disk for lvm..
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2735[16:09:19] <nwe> the partman configuration looks like this..
replaced-url
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2767[16:22:10] <ihre> eumel: if you still have the links, could
you please share them?
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2769[16:22:21] <ihre> i'll look into updating on monday and
will report back if you're around :)
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2776[16:25:32] <ghormoon> hi, is there any easy way to use
openssl to create new keys and CSR, but copy information from old
certificate? So I'm sure not to forget anything in the CSR?
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113", and follow the first links
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2802[16:35:22] <b6s3d> hello, is it possible to install debian
from a floppy disc?
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2803[16:35:44] <greycat> Not any recent version of Debian, no.
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2805[16:36:07] <JordiGH> Where in the world is this in the realm
of possibility?
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2806[16:36:47] <greycat> There was a guy here some days ago who
was trying to install Debian 1.1 (I think) and had a bunch of floppy
images he was trying to extract....
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2811[16:37:39] <donofrio> b6s3d, use a floppy to boot
replaced-url
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2812[16:37:42] <greycat> I would also be quite dubious that a
recent version of Debian would even *run* on a machine that only has
a floppy drive and not a CD-ROM or USB.
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2815[16:38:16] <Shadur> ... Floppy drives still exist?
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2818[16:38:25] <bmr> Paul^^, no - it only has a SOCKS _server_
built in.
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2819[16:38:27] <Agiofws> hello
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2820[16:38:32] <eumel> i don't even have a cd-rom drive any
more
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2821[16:38:33] <Agiofws> i'm trying to setup my gfx intel
hd510 card to 3d acceleration so it can play with gdm3 and gnome 3
CAN anyone please help me with this task? i'm on debian stable
aka jessie with backports enabled and non free firmware please take
a look at
replaced-url
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2822[16:38:34] <bmr> The ProxyCommand allows you to connect to
anything (so long as you can find a command to do so)
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2823[16:38:42] <greycat> Sure. You need hardware to read your old
media so you can store the files on something else.
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2830[16:40:13] <JordiGH> Urgh, I'm not even sure how to
upgrade my linux to the latest backported one.
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2834[16:40:42] <greycat> JordiGH: you simply install another
jessie-backports linux-image package, and then you have both
installed.
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2835[16:41:12] <yepla> hello i have write my issue is someone can
have a look it will be great appreciate thanks :
replaced-url
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2839[16:41:33] <donofrio> b6s3d, I meant use floppy with plop on
it to boot a usb key with debain on it....perhaps even a netinstall
iso would work on th eusb key
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2840[16:42:00] <JordiGH> greycat: Which linux-image package?
There are so many.
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2841[16:42:01] <Agiofws> Reading state information... Done
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2842[16:42:01] <Agiofws> linux-image-amd64 is already the newest
version.
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2843[16:42:01] <Agiofws> xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the
newest version.
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2850[16:43:38] <JordiGH> Do I want
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2851[16:43:40] <JordiGH> linux-image-4.7.0-1-grsec-amd64
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2852[16:44:01] <JordiGH> or
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned or
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd643
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2858[16:45:21] <babilen> JordiGH: Whatfor?
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2860[16:45:28] <babilen> linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned
has the fix
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2861[16:45:33] <Agiofws> greycat, can you take a look at
replaced-url
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2862[16:45:52] <JordiGH> babilen: I'm running the backported
kernel because I need it for newer Intel graphics.
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2864[16:45:53] <babilen> The signed ones are still building
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2868[16:46:11] <JordiGH> babilen: Oh, so backports *do* get
security fixes? I just need to wait a little longer?
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2870[16:46:22] <JordiGH> I can deal with that. Especially since
it's a local privesc.
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2872[16:46:29] <Agiofws> JordiGH, me too but i still don;t have
gfx though
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2873[16:46:31] <babilen> JordiGH: The
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned already has the fix, the
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 is still building
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2874[16:46:52] <greycat> Your 4.4.0 bpo image is not likely to
get a fix.
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2875[16:47:08] <JordiGH> I know, I'm not married to this
version.
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2876[16:47:34] <JordiGH> I need to change my pin priority,
probably, so I get automatic updates for packages already installed
from backports.
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2878[16:47:47] <babilen> That's the default behaviour
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2879[16:47:57] <babilen> (don't install from there by
default, but install upgrades)
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2880[16:48:09] <JordiGH> Then I need to install a package that
doesn't have the Linux version in the name so it automatically
updates?
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2883[16:49:01] <babilen> The linux-image-amd64 metapackage in
jessie-backports depends on linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 which
does, as of now, not yet contain the fix for CVE-2016-5195
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2884[16:49:07] <babilen> (if that's what you are interested
in)
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2888[16:49:35] <JordiGH> wfm
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2893[16:50:43] <JordiGH> babilen: Thanks for the help.
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2895[16:51:12] <babilen> But generally speaking you want that one
if you want to automatically pull in newer packages
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2901[16:52:23] <JordiGH> Hrm, this does not inspire confidence:
replaced-url
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2903[16:53:15] <JordiGH> That's for some virtual machine
stuff, right?
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2904[16:53:20] <JordiGH> I don't think I use that anymore.
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2909[16:54:53] <greycat> Weird... you got 4.7.8-1~bpo8+1 but I
got 4.7.5-1~bpo8+2
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2910[16:55:13] <greycat> different mirrors out of sync possibly
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2911[16:55:40] <babilen> greycat: That would be signed vs
unsigned ?!
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2913[16:56:03] <greycat> oh, his is headers not image...
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2914[16:56:34] <greycat> (Not sure whether that's relevant.
I'm not using kernel-headers or dkms anything.)
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2915[16:56:37] <babilen> And maybe the packages have been built
by now ..
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2942[17:03:48] <queso> What does this mean? There are tons of
these entries in /var/log/syslog on my machine:
wpa_supplicant[1200]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed:
-33
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2969[17:17:39] <Agiofws> can i install a newer kernel than this
one on my debian 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 ?
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2970[17:18:12] <RoyK> why would you need it?
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2971[17:18:22] <greycat> !skylake
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2972[17:18:23] <dpkg> an <intel-gfx> chipset requiring
firmware. For jessie support, enable <backports> and
<non-free sources>, then install <bpo kernel>,
xserver-xorg-video-intel and firmware-misc-nonfree from
jessie-backports.
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2973[17:18:38] <RoyK> !sns
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2974[17:18:38] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious
disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time
something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about
<backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than
upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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2976[17:18:57] <greycat> I'm not sure what a skylake is
exactly, but I'm guessing this is the actual issue.
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2977[17:19:21] <missmbob> Agiofws: if you need it i have jessie
debs of 4.8.3. or you can roll your own.
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2980[17:20:04] <RoyK> Agiofws: first of all - why do you need
anything newer?
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2981[17:20:08] <Agiofws> i need it because " i fixed the no
EDID case recently. you need a more recent kernel " from
intel-gfx
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2982[17:20:19] <Agiofws> i need it because " i fixed the no
EDID case recently. you need a more recent kernel " from
#intel-gfx
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2984[17:20:38] <greycat> How recent exactly?
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2988[17:21:32] <Agiofws> so backports does not have a newer
kernel than 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 ?
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2990[17:21:37] <greycat> ,kernels
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2991[17:21:38] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686
(4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports:
4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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2992[17:21:41] <jelly> Agiofws: how recent do you need?
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2995[17:22:43] <jelly> (did the developer say which version it
got in)
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3008[17:27:11] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> 4.9-rc1
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3009[17:27:11] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> although that's
broken in other ways, so what you really want is drm-intel-nightly
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3010[17:27:33] <Agiofws> does debian have drm-nightly?
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3011[17:27:36] <missmbob> jesus
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3012[17:27:45] <yossarianuk> hi - I am trying to make a script
run on shutdown . I want sdmem to run as I have a hardened laptop to
connect to a HSM. With sysinitv and upstart this was easy
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3014[17:27:52] <yossarianuk> how can I do it with Systemd ?
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3016[17:28:07] <Martyn> [[ prefix to message -- due to the
embedded nature of the production server I am on, I need to stay on
Debian 6, and cannot move to 7 or 8. I am FULLY AWARE that Debian
6-LTS was EOL'ed in Feb ]]
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3017[17:28:42] <yossarianuk> tried sometghing like ->
replaced-url
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3020[17:28:49] <Martyn> Is there a way I can patch "Dirty
Cow" on a debian 6 'Squeeze' LTS server? Despite it
being EOL'ed, does anyone know of anyone maintaining
oldoldstable kernels?
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3022[17:29:30] <greycat> Martyn: you could install a patched
kernel. Just make sure it's compatible with squeeze's
userspace.
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3023[17:29:42] <jelly> Martyn: you can probably pay the LTS team
to do it on a one-time basis
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3024[17:29:53] <elixir> I was thinking of this the other day...
How do you all pronounce "dpkg"? I have always pronounced
aloud as "D Package". Is there a proper way to pronounce
it?
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3030[17:30:12] <Agiofws> yes
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3032[17:30:15] <Martyn> jelly : I've reached out to the LTS
team -- they have said "LTS is Wheezy, we are not doing any
work on Squeeze"
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3033[17:30:17] <Agiofws> dpkg...
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3035[17:30:36] <jelly> Martyn: did you wave a hand full of $$$ in
front of them?
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3036[17:30:57] <greycat> Is there any reason a wheezy (lts)
kernel would not work on his squeeze system?
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3037[17:30:59] <Martyn> jelly : You bet.... about 10 kilopizzas
worth
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3041[17:31:27] <Agiofws> how can i install 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae ?
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3043[17:31:31] <jelly> Martyn: pizza is $5 here, for $50.000
I'll do it myself.
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3047[17:31:57] <greycat> yossarianuk: google says
replaced-url
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3048[17:32:16] <jelly> (well, I'll take half and ask bwh to
fix it for the other half ;-)
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3049[17:32:25] <Martyn> jelly : You don't have a Debian
signing key though ... if we're going to pay for the work,
I'd want the results to be packaged into the Squeeze-LTS
archive
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3050[17:32:35] <Agiofws> ,install latest kernel
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3051[17:32:37] <Martyn> ( since it wouldn't make it to
security )
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3052[17:32:44] <Agiofws> ,kernel
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3053[17:32:45] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686
(4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports:
4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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3054[17:32:56] <jelly> Martyn: that won't happen, since
squeeze-lts is archived and immutable
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3055[17:33:03] <jelly> (the repo, I mean)
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3056[17:33:10] <Martyn> jelly : Yep.
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3057[17:33:11] <babilen> Agiofws: That information might be
slightly out of date
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3058[17:33:13] <somiaj> Agiofws: if you need a kernel newer than
4.7 in jessie, you'll have to compile it yourself. Would the
4.7 kernel from jessie-backports work?
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3059[17:33:23] <Agiofws> nope
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3060[17:33:29] <Agiofws> i need 4.9 :(
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3061[17:33:34] <Martyn> jelly : What do you think? Could I get
wheezy's patched kernel to work with squeeze?
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3062[17:33:38] <greycat> somiaj: an intel-gfx developer said he
needs "drm-intel-nightly"
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3063[17:33:44] <Agiofws> 4.9-rc1+
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3064[17:33:50] <jelly> Martyn: depends on the hardware
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3065[17:33:50] <greycat> Agiofws: your 4.9-rc1 is out of context.
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3066[17:33:59] <greycat> 11:27 Agiofws> <vsyrjala>
4.9-rc1
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3067[17:34:04] <greycat> 11:27 Agiofws> <vsyrjala>
although that's broken in other ways, so what you really want
is drm-intel-nightly
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3068[17:34:17] <Martyn> jelly : mostly older Supermicro hardware,
although there are a couple Dell PowerEdge 400R servers in the mix.
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3069[17:34:28] <Agiofws> ok manual to install newest vanilla
kernel on debian?
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3070[17:34:28] <jelly> Martyn: in general, replacing just the
kernel on a typical 64 or 32bin x86 box is an easy task
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3071[17:34:31] <RoyK> Agiofws: that's bleeding edge ;)
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3073[17:34:34] <jelly> 32bit*
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3074[17:34:47] <jelly> Martyn: that does not sound very embedded
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3075[17:34:54] <Martyn> jelly : the biggest issue is the
broadcomm network
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3076[17:34:59] <jelly> tg3?
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3077[17:35:04] <Agiofws> i love debian but using it with gnome is
a pain in ass
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3078[17:35:10] <jelly> the drivers are still present.
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3081[17:35:34] <arielsanflo> hello
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3082[17:35:36] <Agiofws> ok is there a how to to install latest
kernel in debian stable?
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3083[17:35:54] <greycat> !tell Agiofws about kernel handbook
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3085[17:36:00] <Agiofws> i remember someone posting something
here
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3086[17:36:03] <missmbob> Agiofws:
replaced-url
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3087[17:36:12] <Martyn> jelly : The servers are part of an old
deep-space tracking network. The ONLY thing I can do to them, due to
the project restraints ( .gov/.mil ) is deploy a supported security
update. I can't, for example, upgrade them to Jessie.
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3088[17:36:16] <Martyn> ( OR wheezy )
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3089[17:36:24] <arielsanflo> help how install RoR en debian etch
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3090[17:36:41] <arielsanflo> i am from colombia
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3091[17:36:43] <jelly> Martyn: that is relevant information.
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3092[17:36:43] <greycat> Martyn: If you are not allowed to
install a kernel of your choice on them, then I don't see what
you can do here.
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3093[17:36:44] <Martyn> They are "embedded" in that
they are in a data center I cannot easily access, and making
software changes is a pain in the ass due to a change process.
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3094[17:36:56] <missmbob> i'm looking at drm-intel-nightly
and last night's failed :P this is going to be annoying
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3095[17:36:59] <greycat> (that's not what embedded means)
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3101[17:38:17] <Martyn> greycat : I -can- upgrade the kernel
since there is a CVE .. and these servers are available for
researchers to log into. Because of the CVE, if I can wrangle a
package that was made by and signed by Debian to install, I can do
it with an emergency security deploy request.
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3102[17:38:18] <greycat> Martyn: when your project is fixed to an
old version of <anything>, you just have to accept that there
will be new exploits found that you cannot fix.
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3103[17:38:24] <jelly> Martyn: science is cool. If you can figure
out enough budget, Iit might be possible Debian itself could bend
itself to re-create a signed squeeze repo on security.debian.org
just for you
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3107[17:39:22] <Agiofws> do i download the source from
replaced-url
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3108[17:39:35] <missmbob> Agiofws: i dont see how that'll
help you when you need the nightly
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3109[17:39:41] <greycat> Agiofws: The developer you were talking
to TOLD YOU that 4.9-rc1 is broken and that you don't actually
want it
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3110[17:39:50] <Martyn> jelly : That would be nice, but it's
pie in the sky and from the conversations I've had over the
last couple days .. not something I think will/can happen.
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3111[17:40:01] <yossarianuk> greycat
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3113[17:40:10] <gebruiker> hi
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3114[17:40:13] <yossarianuk> greycat: thanks, it didn't
work.. Already seen that page
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3115[17:40:25] <Martyn> I didn't consider that a Wheezy
kernel might run successfully in Squeeze though
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3116[17:40:34] <gebruiker> what apps do you guys use to adjust
the brightness of the screen - esp during the night?
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3117[17:40:35] <jmcnaught> arielsanflo: debian etch stopped being
supported six years ago. are you sure you don't mean something
newer?
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3118[17:40:42] <Martyn> I think the only tricky hardware is the
bnx2 network adapter
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3121[17:41:06] <jmcnaught> gebruiker: you should check out
redshift
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3122[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <Agiofws> what shoul di do to make
this work and why is it not working ?
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3123[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> like is said, you just
need a recent kernel
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3124[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <Agiofws> 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae ?
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3125[17:41:28] <Agiofws> <vsyrjala> no. 4.9-rc1+ like i
said
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3128[17:41:42] <missmbob> Agiofws: plus. yes. not rc1.
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3130[17:42:02] <gebruiker> jmcnaught: i already have installed
and configured redshift ( the one in jessie is bugged btw). I
managed to adjust brightness with xrandr but it just does it for a
little while and then reverts
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3131[17:42:13] <missmbob> Agiofws: which means nightly. which
last night's broke. you could wait for rc2
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3132[17:42:17] <gebruiker> i use redlight from missmbob - works
great! :)
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3134[17:43:17] <missmbob> Agiofws: i'm cloning the previous
night that had a build bot success just to look at. if you want i
could try to build it for you
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3136[17:43:39] <Martyn> jelly : Lets see... if I use a Wheezy
kernel, and need bnx2 support in the initird, I'll need to
install the wheezy package and then patch the initrd by hand by
unpacking the cpio, adding the bnx2 driver, and then recreating the
initrd
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3138[17:43:50] <Martyn> this should be interesting
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3139[17:43:55] <missmbob> gebruiker: glad it's working out
:)
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3140[17:44:20] <Agiofws> missmbob, could you please?
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3147[17:46:17] <jelly> Martyn: so you don't actually need a
kernel signed for squeeze and present only in a previously existing
squeeze repo?
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3149[17:46:48] <Martyn> jelly : I think if I can fix the vuln,
and it's at least =something= signed by Debian that I can point
to ... I can get away with it.
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3150[17:47:07] <Martyn> This system is getting so old that any
answer other than "Nope, I cannot fix it" will fly.
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3151[17:47:19] <greycat> yossarianuk: the stuff in "man
systemd-halt.service" might work. I haven't tried that
either.
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3156[17:47:59] <Martyn> ( Well, =almost= any other answer )
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3160[17:48:37] <Martyn> jelly : 3.2.82-1 is the wheeze kernel
image that patches dirty cow?
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3161[17:48:42] <jelly> yes
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3164[17:49:00] <jelly> <Ganneff> not on official mirrors
<jelly> I can point the user here and ask whethe a change in
mirror site, but not in gpg signage, would work <Ganneff> if
some DD builds it, i could prepare a repo directory including an
official signature. <jelly> nod <Ganneff> (official. ha.
standard ftpmaster one. though, is our squeeze key still valid?)
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3165[17:49:15] <jelly> Martyn: that's from #debian-security
(on OFTC)
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3169[17:49:25] <pdo_fn14> dirtycow everywhere, lol. :))
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3172[17:49:51] <jelly> I'm not calling it that,
cve-2016-5195 here
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3175[17:50:14] <jelly> Martyn: I'll be going AFK for a bit,
can you continue discussing there?
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3176[17:50:15] <jmcnaught> Martyn: you might also want to get the
the newer firmware-bnx2 package from wheezy along with the kernel
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3177[17:50:41] <Martyn> jelly : Bah ... I can't seem to meet
the dependencies with the package in squeeze ( initramfs-tools >
0.99 , linux=base >= 3~, firmware-linux-free >= 3~ )
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3178[17:50:53] <greycat> Ah, bummer.
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3179[17:50:59] <Martyn> jelly : Hold on, switching to OFTC
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3195[17:55:44] <missmbob> Agiofws: it's compiling.
it'll take a couple hours (code is huge and it's a small
vpn)...assuming it actually completes without further errors.
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3196[17:56:44] <missmbob> Agiofws: i'll probably forget
about it so ping me in a couple
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mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jelly-one
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3251[18:12:44] <johnfg> hi guys
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3252[18:13:12] <johnfg> running jessie with all updates.
I've got a canon printer connected via usb to a centos box.
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3253[18:13:34] <johnfg> What's the best way to connect to
it?
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3254[18:14:26] <somiaj> johnfg: is the centos box using cups?
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3259[18:16:38] <Agiofws> missmbob, and greycat i dont understand
how i/we solved this matter about a month ago what has changed
since. all that i can tell is that debian stable changed from 8.5 to
8.6 i even ghave the logs that this issue was solved could you take
a look because it seems i've done everything i did in the past
and it stilll does not work... the logs are here
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3260[18:16:38] <Agiofws> for agiofws ... its not that long
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3268[18:17:42] <Agiofws> drm-intel-nightly is 4.9-rc1 + more
recent stuff. 4.9-rc1 had a number of problems we ran into which are
fixed in -nightly
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3271[18:18:08] <johnfg> somiaj: Yes. I was using it with np, but
for some reason, I'm not getting a good connection now.
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3273[18:18:13] <greycat> Perhaps your previous solution was to
disable some crap that GNOME is doing.
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3274[18:18:28] <greycat> I have utterly no clue how to do
anything relating to GNOME other than make it not run. I'm
really good at that.
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3275[18:19:00] <somiaj> johnfg: cups should be able to share a
print over ipp, then using cups on the debian machine configure it
to connect to the server using the ip address of the server.
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3276[18:19:22] <johnfg> somiaj: So you've found ipp best?
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3277[18:19:36] <somiaj> johnfg: its the native sharing format of
cups and should work between two systems runing cups
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3278[18:19:52] <somiaj> but you do have to configure the centos
box to share the printer
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3281[18:21:07] <Agiofws> greycat, but i got it to work with gnome
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3282[18:21:14] <Agiofws> jelly-one, *
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3283[18:21:16] <missmbob> Agiofws: i really dont remember. i talk
to too many people. i have no idea.
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3286[18:21:47] <Agiofws> if you clock on the link but it seems if
done everything i've did in the past
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3287[18:21:52] <Agiofws> click*
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3290[18:22:28] <Agiofws> !skylake
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3291[18:22:28] <dpkg> an <intel-gfx> chipset requiring
firmware. For jessie support, enable <backports> and
<non-free sources>, then install <bpo kernel>,
xserver-xorg-video-intel and firmware-misc-nonfree from
jessie-backports.
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3292[18:22:33] <missmbob> i looked. i have more faith in intel
devs than what we did, though. maybe we just got lucky and missed a
bug and then it bit us in the ass
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3295[18:22:44] <missmbob> now you're hitting said bug that
you werent before. *shrug*
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3296[18:23:02] <Agiofws> i DONT WANT TO INSTALL ANOTHER DISTRO :)
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3297[18:23:04] <Agiofws> lol
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3299[18:23:18] <missmbob> Agiofws: another distro wont have 4.9
nightly either
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3300[18:23:27] <missmbob> just wait a bit. it'll finish
compiling in not too long
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3326[18:31:08] <gustavohmsilva> Hi guys! Can I make a stupid
question? I'm trying to start a new desktop environment OVER
ssh, how can I do that?
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3327[18:31:38] <Agiofws> startx ?
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3328[18:31:39] <gustavohmsilva> they Idea is that I would ssh a
computer that has one graphic interface (unity)
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3329[18:31:53] <somiaj> gustavohmsilva: you don't really run
desktop enviroments over ssh, are you thinking something more like
vnc?
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3330[18:31:57] <missmbob> gustavohmsilva: please go to #ubuntu
for support
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3331[18:32:17] <gustavohmsilva> no dude, was an example missmbob
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3332[18:32:25] <Agiofws> startx :0 somthing liike that ?
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3333[18:32:55] <gustavohmsilva> Agiofws: startx :0 would start X
on the environment already running
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3334[18:32:58] <Agiofws> drm-intel-nightly is 4.9-rc1 + more
recent stuff. 4.9-rc1 had a number of problems we ran into which are
fixed in -nightly
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3336[18:33:16] <missmbob> yes
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3338[18:33:20] <missmbob> i know :P
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3340[18:34:09] <missmbob> Agiofws: it's not my first time on
the rodeo of nightly kernels. dont worry
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3341[18:34:36] <gustavohmsilva> i have a server running KDE with
a running ssh server, my idea is to login on this machine over ssh,
then go to ctrl+alt+F2 (or any other environment) and from there
start gnome, then tunnel that gnome GUI through ssh to my guest
computer
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3354[18:40:01] <gustavohmsilva> I understand that this is a
little (a lot) crazy, but the thing is that I'm using debian on
an ARM single board computer, and he is running a small GUI,
specific for this little device (PocketCHIP)
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3358[18:40:36] <gustavohmsilva> Today, I connect to it through
SSH or VNC, over VNC I can only see the small GUI, and through SSH,
well, is a terminal
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3366[18:42:01] <gustavohmsilva> I would love to be able to make
something more unified... Having locally, on the device (and its
480x272 screen) the GUI that he already has (and that fit's it
perfectly), and when I connect to it remotely, run a full XFCE
desktop GUI
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3376[18:44:47] <habs> Does gcc-6 have a circular build dependency
in g++-6 (same source package), or am I reading this wrong?
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3379[18:45:19] <habs> If so, then if I'm trying to build
gcc-6 what can I do about this?
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3383[18:45:52] <ChrisH> gustavohmsilva: I would use x11vnc on the
existing KDE and connect via vncviewer.... or maybe KDE has
it's own vnc implementation. I used x11vnc in the past.
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3386[18:47:22] <gustavohmsilva> ChrisH> The thing is that
instead of KDE (which I used as an example only), I have this little
small GUI made for a 480x272 screen.
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3387[18:47:39] <gustavohmsilva> but I know that this device can
handle a full blown XFCE in it.
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3388[18:47:49] <peterrooney> gustavohmsilva: still unclear on
your goal.
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