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1[00:00:16] <vegenaise> ok, in what sense DerLG? copy the file
and save it to my /home/? save to a different disk all together or
the cloud?
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2[00:00:22] <maxcell_> DerLG, Brigo there is a lot of errors,
org.bluez, GL errors
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3[00:00:24] <Brigo> maxcell_, search for errors, they should
be in red.
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4[00:00:30] <maxcell_> canberra-gtk-module errors
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6[00:00:32] <`Kevin> vegenaise: cp it elsewhere and remove it
or mv it somewhere else, after that it you shouldnt see it in
apt-get update anymore
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7[00:00:53] <Brigo> maxcell_, then probably you have messed
your system up.
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8[00:01:07] <DerLG> maxcell_: cp sources.list.d
sources.list.bak
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9[00:01:13] <vegenaise> ok Kevin` , i'll give that a go
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12[00:02:02] <vegenaise> thanks everyone :)
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14[00:02:11] <DerLG> thats what irc is for
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15[00:02:44] <maxcell_> Brigo, i don't think so, i've
installed him yesterday
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17[00:02:53] <maxcell_> Brigo, and i'm having this problem
with all distros
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18[00:02:59] <maxcell_> Brigo, being a long time
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19[00:03:10] <Brigo> then paste the errors in paste.debian.net
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21[00:03:23] <Brigo> so we can check them.
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22[00:03:30] <maxcell_> ok
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34[00:08:00] <maxcell_> Brigo,
replaced-url
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46[00:10:47] <maxcell_> Brigo,
replaced-url
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47[00:10:51] <Brigo> maxcell_, that error could be harmless:
replaced-url
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48[00:11:15] <maxcell_> Brigo, yeah i don't think this
error was the problem
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51[00:12:50] <maxcell_> Brigo, in this second log the line
number 11 is in RED
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52[00:12:51] <Brigo> maxcell_, there should be some errors
before those one.
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53[00:13:05] <maxcell_> let me see
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55[00:13:46] <Brigo> maxcell_, those logs are saying gnome
can't run because of clutter (at least). Why clutter can't
run?
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58[00:14:35] <Brigo> maxcell_, you can try checking dmesg
(kernel messages) the most importants.
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60[00:14:38] <Brigo> dmesg is a command
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61[00:14:42] <Brigo> just run it.
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65[00:15:21] <maxcell_> ok
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68[00:15:48] <maxcell_> Brigo, there is some ACPI error of
nvidia. They are saying basically this again and again:
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69[00:15:55] <maxcell_> set 05 18:52:32 debian kernel: ACPI
Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042F
conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047F
(\PMIO) (20170119/utaddress-247)
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70[00:15:55] <maxcell_> set 05 18:52:32 debian kernel: ACPI: If
an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it
instead of the native driver
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71[00:16:13] <Brigo> maxcell_, don't paste here or you are
going to be kicked.
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72[00:16:41] <maxcell_> k
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73[00:17:36] <maxcell_> Brigo, look this little error
replaced-url
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74[00:18:21] <Brigo> maxcell_, that is about the bluetooth
device.
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75[00:18:45] <maxcell_> oh ok
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76[00:18:48] <maxcell_> i dont have it
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77[00:18:56] <Brigo> maxcell_, it lools like the ACPI error is
not a problem:replaced-url
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79[00:19:06] <Brigo> maxcell_, is a warning not an error.
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81[00:19:23] <Brigo> maxcell_, that's why the system
can't find it :)
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82[00:19:36] <maxcell_> oh ok
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83[00:19:41] <maxcell_> i'm reading the page you paste
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84[00:20:00] <maxcell_> and i think we got an real error this
time with dmesg
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85[00:20:06] <Brigo> maxcell_, are these all the error you have
found?
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86[00:20:09] <maxcell_> look at the last line of the log, its
red
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87[00:20:23] <maxcell_> Brigo,
replaced-url
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92[00:22:27] <Brigo> errors in lines 95 and 96 can be related
to error in lines 85-89.
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95[00:22:37] <Brigo> Now check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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96[00:22:38] <will> does anyone know where I can find a
tutorial to get dango running on app engine?
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98[00:22:48] <Brigo> will, google?
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102[00:23:19] <will> I've tried to follow google's
tutorial but everytime i run into a specific problem which i think
has to do with me being on debian9 (and missing packages from 8
which might be necesary)
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103[00:23:24] <will> Brigo, yes
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106[00:25:13] <will> perform the serch yourself and see how
vague they are
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108[00:25:40] <maxcell_> Brigo, my system frozen and i reset,
should i look into Xorg.0.log or Xorg.1.log?
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110[00:25:54] <Brigo> .0 both :)
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111[00:26:10] <maxcell_> both you mean?
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112[00:26:15] <maxcell_> .0.log.old?
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113[00:26:16] <Brigo> maxcell_, the NVRM error don't look
very scary either:
replaced-url
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114[00:26:24] <Brigo> maxcell_, both, sorry.
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115[00:26:30] <maxcell_> ok
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116[00:26:34] <Brigo> probabley they are saying the same :)
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117[00:27:33] <maxcell_> Brigo, this last bbs.archlinux site you
paste with NVRM errors doesn't mention the last line. the XID
(PCI:0000) error
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119[00:28:04] <Brigo> maxcell_, you are right, let's check
that.
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126[00:33:35] <Brigo> maxcell_, there is a lot of information
about that XID error:
replaced-url
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128[00:33:57] <Brigo> it looks like a hardware problem.
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130[00:34:18] <maxcell_> MAN
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132[00:34:25] <Brigo> maxcell_,
replaced-url
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134[00:34:42] <maxcell_> Brigo, look at the autors problem,
thats EXACTLY what is happening with me:
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135[00:34:45] <maxcell_> read that
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136[00:34:53] <maxcell_> "After starting X, the system
often freezes, so frequently that makes X unusable. Usually at
first, all sudden everything displayed on the X screen is struck,
then the content on the screen is sometimes updated for a few times,
very slowly, then it gets entirely struck."
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139[00:35:33] <JohnnnyyySmash> when running fde on debian is it
normal for stuff to open slower
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140[00:36:06] <maxcell_> Cursor sometimes still works but
sometimes it doesn't. Alt-SysRq keys sometimes works and
sometimes doesn't. Ctrl-Alt-F{1..6} almost never works.
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141[00:36:23] <Brigo> XID error 69 (yours) Graphics Engine class
error
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144[00:36:54] <maxcell_> Brigo, what that means?
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146[00:37:00] <maxcell_> Hardware Error and Driver Error?
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147[00:37:05] <Brigo> maxcell_, read the last link from nvidia
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148[00:37:12] <maxcell_> im on it
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151[00:37:24] <Brigo> it's the best information source i
can find.
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152[00:37:34] <maxcell_> it is indeed
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153[00:37:45] <maxcell_> Brigo, HW error is marked at 69 error
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154[00:37:51] <maxcell_> that means, hardware error?
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155[00:38:07] <Brigo> maxcell_, it looks so
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156[00:38:15] <maxcell_> so basicaly
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158[00:38:21] <maxcell_> my card is shit
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160[00:38:29] <maxcell_> ?
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161[00:38:54] <Brigo> it looks like it, i meant :)
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162[00:39:02] <Brigo> maxcell_, i don't really know.
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164[00:39:22] <maxcell_> Brigo, now in dmesg i got another Xid
error, number 31
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166[00:39:28] <maxcell_> right after the 69
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167[00:39:31] <maxcell_> oO
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168[00:39:41] <Brigo> is it new? talk with the saler
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169[00:40:06] <maxcell_> i did that week ago because of ACPI
errors, and they will swap my card
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170[00:40:15] <Brigo> maxcell_, that's good
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171[00:40:18] <maxcell_> yes
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173[00:40:27] <maxcell_> i wasn't sure it was the problem
tho, now i am
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174[00:40:28] <Brigo> i have to go now, bed time.
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177[00:40:43] <maxcell_> Brigo, thanks a lot for the help
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178[00:40:45] <maxcell_> clarifying
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179[00:40:49] <Brigo> i glad you get something from this :)
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180[00:40:57] <Brigo> no problem! :)
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181[00:40:58] <maxcell_> yes thank you for the help
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182[00:41:01] <maxcell_> appreciate that
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185[00:41:07] <Brigo> bye
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186[00:41:09] <maxcell_> bye
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187[00:41:42] <JohnnnyyySmash>
replaced-url
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191[00:43:25] <setra> is is possible to have a pppoe-client
mapped the routed net mapped to an virtual switch port without
exposing the hosting machine to the providers net
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199[00:46:55] <drinks2go> JohnnnyyySmash you could accomplish
that just by using the live usb installer (your link) to install to
another usb connected to the machine...
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200[00:47:32] <drinks2go> but if someone sticks their own thumb
drive in, they can just mount your sata drive unless it's
encrypted.
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201[00:47:44] <drinks2go> I'm guessing there, don't
know much about that.
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207[00:49:58] <pakos1> #offsec
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208[00:50:08] <pakos1> join #offsec
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210[00:50:16] <annadane> pakos1, /join #offsec
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211[00:50:47] <pakos1> ty
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213[00:51:38] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: its encrypted
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215[00:53:07] <JohnnnyyySmash> annadane: do you know anything
about booting from a usb stick?
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216[00:53:16] <annadane> JohnnnyyySmash, a bit
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217[00:53:27] <JohnnnyyySmash> how to make it more secure like
kernal sig verification ?
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218[00:53:47] <JohnnnyyySmash> keep in mind i know nothing so
talk to me like im 3
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219[00:54:07] <annadane> JohnnnyyySmash, can you specify? do you
mean verifying checksums, that the iso you downloaded matches what
it should be?
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221[00:54:36] <annadane> otherwise i wouldn't know the
answer to that question
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222[00:54:47] <drinks2go> i think you're looking for
something in the BIOS...
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223[00:54:58] <shinigami> hello
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224[00:55:05] <drinks2go> because if you install the system on
USB there is nothing to verify "kernal signature" which I
assume you mean
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226[00:55:12] <JohnnnyyySmash> annadane does that mean not just
anyone can plug a usb in and boot my box?
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227[00:55:16] <drinks2go> you want the machine to know it's
your usb, and not anyone elses
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228[00:55:26] <drinks2go> yeah, there may be some bios setting
but i am doubtful
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229[00:55:27] <drinks2go> plus
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230[00:55:36] <JohnnnyyySmash> annadane: no i mean put my /boot
on usb
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231[00:55:46] <JohnnnyyySmash> like drinks2go just said
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232[00:55:51] <annadane> JohnnnyyySmash, i'm not really
sure, i'm sorry
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233[00:56:09] <drinks2go> oh I thought you meant the whole
system on a usb
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234[00:56:19] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: nope sorry
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235[00:56:27] <JohnnnyyySmash> just my boot
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236[00:56:29] <drinks2go> that's probably more clever,
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237[00:57:13] <annadane> JohnnnyyySmash, there do exist live
iso's for debian
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238[00:57:26] <JohnnnyyySmash> annadane: thats not my goal
though
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239[00:57:29] <annadane> okay
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240[00:57:33] <drinks2go> see I think he wants to use the usb
similar to
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242[00:57:37] <drinks2go> a security device
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243[00:57:43] <drinks2go> if he takes it out, computer
won't boot, inaccessible
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244[00:57:55] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: excatly
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245[00:57:59] <drinks2go> hmm..
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246[00:58:04] <annadane> i'm not sure whether you can even
do that
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247[00:58:22] <drinks2go> i mean if you just load up a fresh
/boot
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248[00:58:26] <annadane> you probably could write a script but
that's way beyond my understanding
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249[00:58:30] <drinks2go> but from jessie or something
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251[00:58:42] <drinks2go> would that work on a stretch
installation who has /boot mounted to usb??
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252[00:58:45] <drinks2go> I wonder...
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253[00:58:58] <drinks2go> I mean that's kind of obscure....
but as an example.
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256[00:59:24] <drinks2go> or, not obscure, rather, you
don't want to run an old OS most likely
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257[00:59:30] <Orxata_> hi
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258[00:59:32] <drinks2go> but just as a quick proof of concept
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259[00:59:43] <Orxata_> I'm trying to install debian on a
HP laptop model bs-068ns
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260[00:59:51] <drinks2go> I don't know but were it me
that's what I'd do to try and test the theory
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261[01:00:03] <drinks2go> I don't see anything jumping out
on google
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262[01:00:08] <Orxata_> but when I finally get to the install
menu, if I select "Graphical install", after a while it
says "error: no media on hd0"
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263[01:00:10] <Orxata_> why is that?
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264[01:00:28] <annadane> Orxata_, how did you prepare the iso?
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265[01:00:30] <Orxata_> (I'm installing it using the
netinstall from a usb)
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266[01:00:41] <Orxata_> I just used unetbootin, annadane
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267[01:00:46] <annadane> yeah, don't
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268[01:00:52] <annadane> are you on windows?
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269[01:00:55] <Orxata_> yes
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270[01:00:58] <annadane> use win32diskimager
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271[01:01:04] <shinigami> dont use unetbootin
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272[01:01:21] <Orxata_> why?
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273[01:01:25] <annadane> !unetbootin
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274[01:01:26] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer)
allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux
distributions.
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275[01:01:36] <Orxata_> ok
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276[01:01:40] <Orxata_> thanks
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277[01:01:56] <shinigami> lol very quick answer
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278[01:01:59] <drinks2go> hmm that explains alot to me haha
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279[01:02:24] <annadane> dpkg, tell Orxata_ about
win32diskimager
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280[01:02:34] <annadane> check your pm's
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281[01:02:48] <drinks2go> JohnnnyyySmash sorry I can't be
of more help but that's where I'd look. Of course, just
because YOU can't get it to boot, doesn't mean someone
else couldn't...
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282[01:02:54] <shinigami> is blackarch linux better than kali
linux ?
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283[01:03:02] <annadane> shinigami, #debian-offtopic
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284[01:03:16] <shinigami> ???
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285[01:03:26] <drinks2go> it's subjective and it's not
debian
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286[01:03:31] <shinigami> ok
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287[01:03:36] <drinks2go> :)
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290[01:04:43] <Orxata_> thx annadane
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291[01:04:46] <Orxata_> I'm gonna try it
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292[01:05:05] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: is there an irc chan
that may know ?
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294[01:05:23] <annadane> JohnnnyyySmash, this one
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295[01:05:30] <annadane> as it pertains to debian
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299[01:06:11] <drinks2go> :P
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316[01:12:32] <drinks2go> JohnnnyyySmash
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317[01:12:39] <drinks2go> you're looking for pre-boot
authentication
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319[01:13:13] <drinks2go> bios>MBR/GPT>pre-boot
auth->os boots
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320[01:13:31] <Orxata_> annadane: didn't worked
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321[01:13:32] <drinks2go>
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322[01:13:58] <annadane> Orxata_, that's surprising. you
get to graphical install and still says no media?
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323[01:14:14] <Orxata_> yes
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325[01:14:41] <abrotman> how was it prepared?
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327[01:15:11] <drinks2go> JohnnnyyySmash looks like maybe if you
have an intel processor you can use the TPM to help you out... ?
Maybe? If you're handy with research you could probably get a
better sense of what you need to look for
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338[01:19:39] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: ok im reading into it
i do have intel
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341[01:21:06] <will> does wine run literally .exe files?
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342[01:21:23] <will> am i out of luck if its an installer?
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343[01:21:32] <annadane> no, you can install programs in wine
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344[01:21:38] <uxfi> programs
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345[01:21:46] <Spec> there's a program compatibility matrix
on wine hq somewhere
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346[01:21:55] <will> i just installed wine
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348[01:22:08] <DerLG> will: you should google wine tutorials
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349[01:22:15] <will> and did `wine msiFileName`
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350[01:22:25] <will> said i needed wine32, which doesnt exist in
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352[01:22:36] <will> there were other things too but i installed
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353[01:22:43] <annadane> will, you need multiarch
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356[01:23:29] <annadane> will, what does dpkg
--print-architecture say?
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357[01:23:31] <will> whats thatt where do i get it llol
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358[01:23:45] <will> amd64
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360[01:24:05] <annadane> okay. as root, dpkg --add-architecture
i386 && apt update
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361[01:24:05] <will> i installed wine64 earlier
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362[01:24:09] <will> thinking that might fix it
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364[01:24:52] <will> hmmm
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365[01:25:00] <will> sudo wouldnt do it so i went with su
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366[01:25:11] <will> does sudo only serve the first command?
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367[01:25:15] <will> and nothing after &&?
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371[01:25:37] <DerLG> will: correct
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372[01:25:43] <drinks2go> && -> this is a new command
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373[01:26:01] <Orxata_> does have anything to do with the fact
the I'm using UEFI?
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374[01:26:05] <annadane> the wiki gives sudo dpkg
--add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update
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375[01:26:28] <JohnnnyyySmash> does debian use dm-crypt or luks?
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376[01:26:29] <annadane> abrotman, per Orxata_'s question,
any idea if it does?
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377[01:26:38] <will> okay does wine not have a gui anymore?
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378[01:26:43] <will> cant find it in my applications
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379[01:26:55] <annadane> afaik the gui for it is playonlinux
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380[01:27:04] <annadane> but wine is a command line tool
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381[01:27:27] <will> so apt install playonlinux?
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383[01:27:38] <DerLG> will: thats an easy option
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384[01:27:40] <will> still asks me to install wine32 as root
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385[01:27:50] <annadane> then do so
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386[01:28:06] <annadane> how did you install wine32 earlier if
it asks you to do it now?
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387[01:28:08] <rjsalts> will: the && is interpreted by
your current shell, so it runs "sudo dpkg
--add-architecture" and if that's successful "apt
update"
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388[01:28:14] <will> why does sudo no work for these?
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389[01:28:40] <will> annadane, i installed wine earlier
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390[01:28:46] <will> not wine32
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391[01:28:57] <annadane> will, i misread. then do as it says and
install wine32
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392[01:29:08] <will> installing now
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394[01:29:18] <will> but im wondering why it doesnt find it when
i use sudo
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395[01:29:25] <will> only worked wheni used su
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397[01:30:30] <Orxata_> I'm gonna try the non graphical
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398[01:30:34] <DerLG> will:
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401[01:31:49] <will> DerLG, ty
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402[01:31:59] <JohnnnyyySmash> does debian use dm-crypt or luks?
By default?
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406[01:34:09] <dondelelcaro> JohnnnyyySmash: luks, but you can
use either
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410[01:35:20] <drinks2go> JohnnnyyySmash as far as I know you
can use both
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413[01:36:14] <kleanchap> How do I convert m4v video files to
mp3 files.
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414[01:36:23] <drinks2go> but really ...
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415[01:36:32] <drinks2go> physical access is physical access
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416[01:36:50] <a0z> kleanchap: fffmpeg -i source.m4v output.mp3
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418[01:37:11] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: how would i copy my
boot partition to usb ?
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419[01:37:17] <kleanchap> a0z: Thnx. I will try that.
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420[01:37:23] <will> guys does FFmpeg work?
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421[01:37:35] <will> for kleanchap's purpose
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422[01:37:50] <will> oh someone suggested already
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423[01:37:51] <drinks2go> aw man, that's beyond me dude,
I'd attempt this in a vm to see if it works and then do a fresh
install after backing up my data.
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424[01:38:31] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: my machine is to slow
for vms i just wont burn my boot partition until im sure it works
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425[01:38:59] <drinks2go> do you have another machine you could
test with?
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426[01:39:02] <drinks2go> i'm guessing not...
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428[01:39:18] <will> man, media conversion so nice and simple
for linux
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430[01:39:35] <will> and windows needs me to download an entire
program and gui
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431[01:40:10] <will> are these the very libraries that windows
media conversion programs that are paid for use in the background?
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433[01:42:01] <drinks2go> !offtopic
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434[01:42:01] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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439[01:44:18] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: no i dont man i wish
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444[01:45:48] <JohnnnyyySmash> drinks2go: The goal here is to
stop keylogging at decryption
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446[01:46:05] <JohnnnyyySmash> so i think putting all decrypted
boot files on usb would be a help
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447[01:46:33] <drinks2go> but i mean
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448[01:46:41] <drinks2go> depending how paranoid you are,
physical keylogging devices exist
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451[01:46:57] <drinks2go> physical access... i mean if someone
was determined they can get your keys
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466[01:54:23] <wooden> i have an openvpn configuration that
works on one debian testing machine, and fails on another
recently-install debian testing machine, with a message that the
cert has expired. is there a snafu with certs in testing at the
moment?
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467[01:54:35] <JohnnnyyySmash> IS there a reason just using DD
to copy my boot partition wouldnt boot my box from usb at that point
?
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475[01:57:38] <drinks2go> wooden did you build client certs?
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477[01:57:47] <drinks2go> keys sorry
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482[01:58:39] <Paul--> how view the remote desktop of a linux
machine from debian ?
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483[01:58:43] <wooden> drinks2go: i'm using the same keys
and certs on this machine that i'm using on the other machine
that works.
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484[01:58:53] <Paul--> I don't mean ssh -X
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486[01:59:11] <Paul--> I mean view remote x server in locel
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487[01:59:23] <Paul--> local
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491[02:00:41] <drinks2go> wooden ok, you have --dupilicate-cn or
similar in conf?
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492[02:00:57] <drinks2go> Paul-- realvnc
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494[02:01:23] <Paul--> drinks2go, is it not possible with ssh ?
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496[02:01:56] <Paul--> realvnc is similar to remmina ?
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497[02:02:09] <Paul--> I use remmina to view win desktop
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498[02:02:26] <drinks2go> you don't mean ssh
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499[02:02:30] <nvz> I am getting these two messages repeating
every 3 seconds on Debian 8 in daemon.log: avahi-daemon[624]:
Registering new address record for
2601:547:80:15ec:e58f:b2b1:e48b:8b3e on eth0.*. \ avahi-daemon[624]:
Withdrawing address record for 2601:547:80:15ec:e58f:b2b1:e48b:8b3e
on eth0.
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500[02:02:36] <drinks2go> but you do?
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501[02:04:03] <Paul--> hello
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502[02:04:12] <drinks2go> im confused what you want
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503[02:04:18] <drinks2go> you can do it over ssh
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504[02:04:26] <wooden> drinks2go: no, no --duplicate-cn
anywhere.
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505[02:05:04] <drinks2go> you need duplicate-cn in server.conf
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506[02:05:05] <nvz> this just started happening 10 hours ago and
is spewing these two messages non-stop into daemon long every 3
seconds and I'm not sure what the problem is
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507[02:05:18] <Paul--> I must install the server on vnc or no ?
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508[02:05:26] <drinks2go> otherwise probably your conf is set to
reject two clients accessing with the same cert
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509[02:05:31] <Paul--> isn't x server a server yet ?
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510[02:05:37] <a0z> Paul--: you could try the x11vnc package?
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511[02:05:38] <drinks2go> what?
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512[02:05:50] <drinks2go> you can forward x through ssh fine
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513[02:05:52] <Paul--> a0z, on the server machine ?
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514[02:06:14] <a0z> Paul--: yes
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515[02:06:32] <a0z> Paul--: it will hook into an existing
(running) X session
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516[02:06:44] <a0z> Paul--: you can then use a vncviewer client
to connect to it
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517[02:06:54] <will> i was unable to change install directory in
wine?
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518[02:06:58] <a0z> Paul--: i haven't done it in a while,
but thats how i used to do it
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520[02:07:09] <drinks2go> ForwardX11 Yes needs to be put into
~/.ssh/config on client, /etc/ssh/sshd_config on server
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521[02:07:10] <will> was set to c:/program files which doesnt
exist on linux
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522[02:07:35] <will> i assume its what caused this
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523[02:07:41] <will> err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading
registry key for installroot
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524[02:08:01] <drinks2go>
replaced-url
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525[02:08:33] <wooden> drinks2go: no, sorry, i've had
multiple openvpn clients connected to this server with this
configuration many times. it's something on the client end.
--duplicate-cn is a server flag.
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526[02:09:04] <drinks2go> the client isn't accepting the
client cert you think?
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528[02:09:46] <drinks2go> or sorry
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529[02:09:54] <drinks2go> client not accepting server
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536[02:14:14] <wooden> drinks2go: ssl cert problems are a
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538[02:15:17] <wooden> drinks2go: i tried copying the
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refuses to work on this one. i don't know what else to do. is
there some secret cert stash somewhere?
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607[02:56:02] <nettly> hi
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609[02:56:15] <nettly> I want a local resolving dns server so my
dns lookups are faster
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610[02:56:18] <nettly> what can I use? :D
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611[02:56:24] <nettly> debian/ubuntu
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612[02:56:26] <nettly> quick and easy
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613[02:56:33] <nettly> the one of my isp is causing pain
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614[02:57:05] <abrotman> nettly: you'd probably ask #ubuntu
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615[02:57:13] <nettly> *or debian
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616[02:57:16] <nettly> Ialso got debian
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617[02:57:26] <abrotman> nettly: do you want it on each system?
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620[02:58:01] <nettly> well, it would be ok onlyfor that
particular one
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621[02:58:17] <abrotman> No, I meant, do you have an always-on
system that you'd want to be the DNS for your home network?
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622[02:58:34] <nettly> not yet
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623[02:58:37] <abrotman> in most situations, bind is fine. You
can set it up to be a local-only caching-only resolver
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624[02:58:38] <nettly> so just for that ubuntu system
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625[02:58:44] <nettly> what is the fastest + easiest way?
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626[02:58:49] <nettly> ideally just installing a package?
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627[02:59:07] <abrotman> there's also dnsmasq
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630[02:59:57] <nettly> so I could just install the dnsmasq
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631[03:00:57] <abrotman> You probably would want to read
something first, maybe adjust a few settings
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641[03:08:38] <finlstrm> just be careful of running your own
DNS... before you know it you are running 4 of them, with 2 publics
hosting your domain name
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642[03:08:40] <finlstrm> :)
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645[03:09:02] <abrotman> and hosting for your friends?
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646[03:09:44] <finlstrm> not yet... but I'm sure
that'll happen at some point
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680[03:32:19] <codebam> hey, my atheros card won't connect
to wifi. when I look at the logs it says it's because it's
being deauthed
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681[03:32:23] <codebam> how do I fix it
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685[03:35:53] <Krennic> b 24
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687[03:36:51] <codebam> ?
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688[03:36:53] <codebam> Krennic: what
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689[03:37:39] <Krennic> nothing b= buffer in weechat i forgot to
put / before
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690[03:37:42] <Sveta> it is a typo. '/b 24' command
switches to buffer
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691[03:37:55] <Krennic> yup
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692[03:38:06] <Krennic> just i for got to put the /
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693[03:39:23] <codebam> oh sorry
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696[03:42:36] <random_numbers> Did the latest file security
update not concern Jessie?
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699[03:44:54] <somiaj> random_numbers: you can look at the
security tracker to double check.
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700[03:45:45] <somiaj> random_numbers:
replaced-url
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701[03:45:57] <random_numbers> I should probably bookmark that.
In the meantime, thanks.
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705[03:49:36] <random_numbers> Ah, it was unaffected. Thanks.
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713[03:56:50] <will> my bretheren
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714[03:57:05] <will> anyone mind telling me why PrtSc doesnt
work in debian?
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718[03:59:33] <Sir_Designer_> does it work in any linux?
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719[03:59:47] <Sveta> yes, if you set your window manager to use
the key as a shortcut
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721[04:00:03] <Sveta> will, what desktop environment are you
using ?
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722[04:00:12] <Sveta> xfce ? gnome ? kde ? lxqt ?
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727[04:01:06] <will> Sveta, cinnamon
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740[04:06:32] <Sveta> will: i don't have it but the web
says ``Menu->System Settings->Keyboard->Keyboard Shortcuts.
On the bottom you will see a "Add custom shortcut".``
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754[04:13:02] <will> Sveta, i dont know what process to link it
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755[04:13:11] <Sveta> scrot
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756[04:13:41] <Sveta> install the package, i think it's
usually not built-in. command 'scrot' takes screenshot of
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757[04:14:01] <will> oh i need something that takes the entire
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758[04:14:19] <uxfi> hello freinds
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759[04:14:37] <Sveta> will, also the web says `Cinnamon
screenshot and recording shortcuts are in Settings -> Hardware
-> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> System. `
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762[04:14:54] <Sveta> will, sorry, i lied, scrot takes
screenshot of entire screen
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763[04:15:01] <will> i just got a warning that my PrtSc button
is currently in use by "Take a screenshot"
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764[04:15:17] <will> when itry to paste somewhere it doesnt
paste
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765[04:15:35] <will> thats what leads me to believe its not
taking a shot
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766[04:16:15] <will> oohh
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767[04:16:16] <will> fixed it
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768[04:16:31] <will> the default shortcut was shift+PrtSc
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769[04:16:40] <will> odd.
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770[04:16:45] <Sveta> okay. sorry for the confusion, i only got
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824[04:48:26] <Storgance> I can't put up wireless with ip
link because of "rf-kill," but rfkill list doesn't
even show the wireless. I know that the wireless is enabled and that
I have the right driver....what's happening?
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848[04:59:25] <JohnnnyyySmash> How do i do a force shutdown on
debian through the cli
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851[05:00:25] <dvs> JohnnnyyySmash, you answered your own
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852[05:00:28] <gerforce> JohnnnyyySmash: sudo shutdown -h now
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853[05:00:46] <dvs> gerforce, liar! ;-)
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859[05:03:18] <JohnnnyyySmash> gerforce is there a way to run
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875[05:09:21] <prologic> Q: How do I debug/fix a debian 9
(stretch) system that doesn't bring its vmbr0 interface up
despite all the proper /etc/network/interfaces stanzas like auto
vmbr0 and iface vmbr0 ... with proper bridge configs?
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876[05:09:39] <gerforce> JohnnnyyySmash: You shoud edit the
sudoers file to make using sudo without password.
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877[05:09:40] <themill> JohnnnyyySmash: there will also be some
fancy loginctl or dbus based way of doing it that knows that
you're the logged in user and that by policy you're
allowed to shutdown without a password
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878[05:10:11] <prologic> my /etc/network/interfaces config =
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884[05:16:31] <LeelooMinai_> Any tip why 'sudo apt-file -l
search etc/telegraf/telegraf.conf' does not work for me?
Reading man page, but I only found that I should not use the initial
slash.
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885[05:17:45] <LeelooMinai_> dpkg-query shows the file as
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918[05:42:16] <ryouma> there seem to be few dictionaries for
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935[05:59:43] <JohnnnyyySmash> What would cause a fresh install
of debian with fde to only be able to stream 480 video and lag while
it does my web browser starts freezing?
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1001[06:58:57] <tw> I'd guess thermal issues.
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1002[06:59:11] <tw> or barring that, bad video drivers.
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1003[06:59:40] <cef> I'd be guessing bad video drivers.. if
it's using framebuffer drivers there'
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1004[06:59:48] <cef> s zero acceleration
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1006[07:00:16] <tw> Even intel integrated performs reasonably
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so the built in video is fairly new (HD 630).
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1022[07:09:08] <tw> from raw numbers, I don't expect that to
be too much more performant than the hd 4400 graphics in my
i7-4500u. Maybe twice as good.
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1028[07:12:55] <tw> aside from speculation, the easy way to tell
it's video is to check which process is burning all of your CPU
time with top, htop, or similar. if it's xorg or xserver, then
it's likely graphics being inefficiently handled.
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1130[08:23:46] <Saler78> List!
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1131[08:23:50] <Saler78> !list
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1132[08:23:51] <dpkg> saler78: È possibile scaricare un
sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a
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1135[08:24:31] <alechko> hey all, I'm on jessie and openbox,
using tint2, I have issues with some apps icons missing, such as
Trello, MavensMate, Slack, I've tried multiple possible
solutions as adding the icons to ~/.local/share/icons/highcolor, but
even after reboot there's no icons for the apps. It looks like
this
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1140[08:25:48] <alechko> anyone could point me in the correct
direction on how to set icons the proper way?
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1161[08:35:46] <pingfloyd> you need to create .desktop files
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1166[08:38:14] <alechko> did that, all in
~/.local/share/applications, I use them for tint2 launcher
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1167[08:39:42] <gnugr> alechko: read this
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1185[08:51:09] <alechko> not sure that this method is working,
created some files, ran idesk, nothing happend with the taskbar
icons
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_systemd_is_evil
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1208[09:03:37] <alechko> @gnugr yeah, idesk did nothing, I
don't see the icons on the desktop either
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1214[09:06:54] <klys> echo _systemd_is_evil | sed -e
"s/^_//"
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1217[09:08:17] <alechko> so to clarify, I have .desktop files set
up in ~/.local/share/applications, and I use the as app launchers in
tint2rc, for example, launcher_item_app =
/home/user/.local/share/applications/Trello.desktop, the launcher
shows the icon perfectly, but the app itself missing the icon, and
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1246[09:18:06] <mdroid> there is about 3days I am tring to
install infinality bundle to debian.
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1249[09:18:43] <mdroid> Iknow there is no repo but if you guys
know of an uptodate source that I can compile from it would help me
a lot.
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1273[09:35:41] <sIRwa2> hi, im installing debian, i went into the
console mid install, but how do i exit it? crt alt F7 didnt do
anything, maybe because im on a macbook?
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1275[09:36:27] <AndreasLutro> ctrl+alt+F1 should bring you back
to the "main" screen where the installer is located, so to
speak
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1278[09:36:46] <klys> try alt+left/right
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1280[09:36:55] <sIRwa2> wow tnx
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1282[09:37:07] <sIRwa2> F1 worked..
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1315[09:52:32] <sIRwa2> hm, im trying to install on esxi, but get
a debootstrap error when installing the base system.
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1319[09:53:39] <tdn> What password manager do you use in Debian?
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1322[09:54:19] <sIRwa2> oke.. it halted on sysvinit-utils but its
continuing installation
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1323[09:54:25] <sIRwa2> default
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1337[10:00:24] <babilen> tdn: keepassxc
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1340[10:02:15] <babilen> (not in Debian at the moment)
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1344[10:03:40] <AndreasLutro> ditto for keepassxc, you can
download the AppImage which is a self-contained binary with all the
dependencies
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1354[10:10:47] <tdn> babilen, I would prefer something that is in
debian. Or at least completely free. This is a critical piece of
software that really needs to be trusted.
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1357[10:11:21] <AndreasLutro> is keepassxc not free?
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1360[10:11:48] <tdn> AndreasLutro, I have no idea. It is just if
I only use something that is included with debian I mostly do not
have to think about that
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1361[10:12:05] <tdn> AndreasLutro, because being in debian means
it is free and also (usually) maintained
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1362[10:12:29] <babilen> tdn: You can use keepassx which *is* in
Debian, but I prefer the fork as it is actually maintained
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1363[10:12:35] <AndreasLutro> right. debian does ship with
keepass2 and keepassx which are compatible, but you may find that
they are somewhat out of date and don't work as well as
keepassxc
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1365[10:12:48] <tdn> babilen, oh, ok.
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1366[10:13:00] <babilen>
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1367[10:13:08] <AndreasLutro> the idea that "it's in
debian therefore it's well maintained" is not a
universally true statement
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1368[10:13:09] <tdn> What about passwordsafe? This is the one
from Bruce Schneier, right? It seems to be included in debian.
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1369[10:13:30] <tdn> AndreasLutro, hence my "(usually)"
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1371[10:14:03] <babilen> AndreasLutro: And even if the package is
well maintained, if upstream's not doing anything there's
little for Debian to do
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1373[10:14:46] <AndreasLutro> indeed, or if upstream works in
ways that aren't easily backportable
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1376[10:15:52] <iderik> Is there any package that can
unpack/decompress file with "any" format (zip, rar, 7z,
etc)? i mean, a universal tool
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1383[10:18:03] <babilen> judd: info atool
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1384[10:18:04] <judd> Package atool (utils, optional) in
stretch/amd64: tool for managing file archives of various types.
Version: 0.39.0-5; Size: 41.1k; Installed: 139k; Homepage:
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1385[10:18:10] <babilen> iderik: ^ comes to mind
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1386[10:18:33] <babilen> But that calls other tools so
doesn't do everything on its own
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1387[10:18:46] <towo^work> i allways prefer unp
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1388[10:18:57] <towo^work> it even calls the other tools
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1390[10:21:00] <vlt> OpenSSH's RNG was also "in
Debian" ;-)
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1392[10:22:46] <iderik> babilen: thanks :) yeah, thats good. we
dont want to end up like windows; creating millions of tools with
tiny differences
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1393[10:23:49] <babilen> tdn: unp is great too
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1394[10:23:56] <babilen> ENICK
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1413[10:34:19] <simbalion> Is it possible to give one service
priority over all others? I'd like to prioritize my web server
so it doesn't get slowed down by ClamAV when new emails come in
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1416[10:34:54] <petemc> priority to what? network? cpu?
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1418[10:35:09] <simbalion> well, CPU but all resources would be
best
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1419[10:35:22] <slax0r> simbalion: check out niceness levels in
systemd services
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1421[10:35:57] <simbalion> slax0r: thanks
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1422[10:36:28] <AndChat181649> people say "debian sucks the
nsa's dick". is that true?
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1424[10:36:41] <slax0r> people also say the world is flat
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1425[10:36:43] <slax0r> is that true?
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1426[10:36:49] <slax0r> some people*
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1427[10:36:51] <AndChat181649> lol.
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1428[10:37:01] <slax0r> s/world/earth
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1429[10:37:13] <AndChat181649> those people are just the
definition of retardation.
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1433[10:37:32] <slax0r> ditto
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1436[10:38:26] <vlt> slax0r: Yes, that is true.
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1437[10:39:30] <AndChat181649> is dwm a shit DE?
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1438[10:40:00] <digdilem> i'd suggest the authors of dwm
would say not
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1439[10:40:11] <AndChat181649> also, what DE would you recommend?
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1440[10:40:15] <Stummi> "it depends"
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1442[10:40:29] <petn-randall> simbalion: You can use
"nice" and "ionice" to set the priority of those
processes lower, check out their man pages.
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1444[10:40:54] <AndChat181649> will do, thanks.
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1445[10:40:55] <petn-randall> AndChat181649: DEs are like cars,
depends on your use case.
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1446[10:41:06] <Stummi> AndChat181649, what are you looking for?
Tiling WMs? Minimalistic ones? "User friendly" as in
replicating Windows or OSX usability?
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1449[10:41:19] <AndChat181649> yes. tiling wms.
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1450[10:41:34] <digdilem> AndChat181649, i like xfce, but
it's such a personal question that you need to try some for
yourself and see what fits
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1451[10:41:43] <Stummi> AndChat181649, try awesome or i3
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1452[10:42:00] <bezaban> or xmonad if you prefer doing all the
configuration in haskell
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1455[10:42:21] <Stummi> dwm is fine, if you don't bother
compiling it yourself (since you configure it in source)
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1460[10:43:39] * petn-randall misses fvwm95.
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1461[10:44:02] * bezaban doesn't miss windowmaker
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1462[10:44:30] <AndChat181649> do you guys agree that gnome sucks
ass?
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1463[10:44:52] <bezaban> must say I've missed that feature
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1465[10:45:21] <jelly> AndChat181649: how old are you, 12?
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1466[10:45:25] <petn-randall> AndChat181649: Please try to keep
it a little family-friendly in here.
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1467[10:45:45] <AndChat181649> I'm 20.
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1468[10:45:51] <AndChat181649> And I was joking.
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1469[10:46:00] <AndChat181649> Sorry.
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1470[10:46:01] <jelly> displeasure with a piece of software can
be written in many ways
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1472[10:46:59] <jelly> so: no, dwm is not a shit DE, because
it's not a DE at all, a window manager is just one component of
a DE
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1481[10:48:38] <AndChat181649> thanks for your answers.
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1489[10:51:38] <rotaticus> i would have said something very
colourful ... thanks for stopping me ;)
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1497[10:55:55] <simbalion> petn-randall: Thanks I am learning
about niceness
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1509[11:01:03] <simbalion> Thanks for your help guys, I set
Nice=-15 on nginx and php7.0-fpm and Nice=-10 on mysqld, amavisd-new
is at 0, and that has improved my page load times from 10s to 2.5s.
I much appreciate the help
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1533[11:14:01] <petn-randall> simbalion: I'd rather put the
nice and ionice of amavis to 15 instead. nice below 0 is a little
dangerous, as a misbehaving process could tie up all CPU to the
point that the system gets unresponsive.
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1541[11:16:50] <JohnnnyyySmash>
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1542[11:16:51] <JohnnnyyySmash> 1557 debian 20 0 1428428 396696
143504 S 111.3 9.9 90:50.93 firefox-esr
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1543[11:17:40] <JohnnnyyySmash> 1629 debian 20 0 1886192 613332
151520 S 33.9 15.2 244:35.49 Web Content
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1544[11:18:11] <JohnnnyyySmash> What would cause top to report
back crazy high cpu usage like that ?
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1546[11:19:12] <bolt_> JohnnnyyySmash: animations?
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1547[11:19:17] <SuperSeriousCat> Many tabs open and one of the
sites got bad JS code running maybe
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1548[11:19:18] <petn-randall> JohnnnyyySmash: I wouldn't
consider that crazy high. Normal usage?
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1549[11:19:21] <cruncher> JohnnnyyySmash, do you have flashplayer
installed?
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1551[11:19:41] <ForceRecon> what does alt-f2 do in debian? What
commands can you run there?
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1552[11:19:43] <bolt_> web browsing is pretty much heavier than
AAA games at the moment...
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1554[11:20:08] <bolt_> ForceRecon: it would generally switch to
TTY2, a regular console
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1556[11:20:20] <JohnnnyyySmash> 111% cpu usage ?
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1557[11:20:23] <bolt> ForceRecon: you can run whatever you like
there
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1558[11:20:38] <petn-randall> JohnnnyyySmash: it's called
multithreading.
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1561[11:20:56] <JohnnnyyySmash> cruncher: nope this is a brand
new install of debian so what ever debian comes with is what i have
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1562[11:21:00] <bolt> JohnnnyyySmash: you may want to look at
pressing shift+I, for something you're more used to
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1563[11:21:24] <dmkeast> bolt: the little popup dialog in gnome?
'r' will reload the desktop config
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1564[11:21:28] <JohnnnyyySmash> petn-randall: this thing runs
slow on rubuntu it was fast why would debian be worse?
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1565[11:21:40] <bolt> dmkeast: ?
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1566[11:22:04] <dmkeast> oops. that was for ForceRecon bolt .
sorry
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1567[11:22:13] <bolt> dmkeast: i was referring to the default
shortcut for turning off irix mode in top :)
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1570[11:23:02] <dmkeast> ah yeah. i meant about the alt+f2
command in gnome
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1572[11:23:21] <bolt> JohnnnyyySmash: close your browser tabs
until the cpu usage goes down
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1573[11:23:35] <bolt> JohnnnyyySmash: that'll tell you which
one is doing mean stuff
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1574[11:23:35] <Rico> hello
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1575[11:24:18] <JohnnnyyySmash> bolt: its youtube doing it
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1576[11:24:26] <JohnnnyyySmash> a live stream
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1583[11:27:49] <ForceRecon> wow that was fun
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1584[11:28:00] <ForceRecon> ctrl-alt-f2 gets you to a login..
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1586[11:28:28] <ForceRecon> I got to see the bluetooth error from
boot
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1587[11:28:30] <ForceRecon> thanks
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1588[11:28:56] <bolt> if only everyone else were that easy to
entertain :)
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1590[11:29:21] <ForceRecon> !next
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1591[11:29:21] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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1592[11:29:58] <ForceRecon> is there a way to get back to your
current gui interface once you push that
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1593[11:30:16] <bolt> it's usually on console 7 or 8
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1597[11:32:34] <ForceRecon> wow.. I did not realize you can have
many virtual consoles.. thanks for that key word
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1606[11:36:08] <ForceRecon> do mac users utilize the same
commands as in linux? -
replaced-url
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1608[11:37:14] <JohnnnyyySmash> cruncher: if i try to copy my
/boot to a new thumb drive can my box boot from that thumb drive?
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1610[11:37:36] <ForceRecon> its amazing once you start to learn
linux how dumbed down windows really is.. You basically do nothing
in windows other than point and click.. I started with dos, novell
etc.. so linux is not a big stretch but learning everything you can
do without knowing what you can do is the hard part
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1612[11:38:41] <cruncher> JohnnnyyySmash, no, not just by copying
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1613[11:38:46] <cruncher> JohnnnyyySmash,
replaced-url
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1619[11:41:50] <ForceRecon> Where can I learn about proprietary
drivers for linux.. let's say I wanted to install a multi
function printer, scan, fax, print, whatever.. if it prints but I
can't get the fax or scanner to work in linux.. where do you go
to get the driver, firmware or even know how to potentially fix it
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1620[11:42:14] <JohnnnyyySmash> cruncher after i get this usb
working its ok to shred the /boot so the box cant be booted without
it?
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1621[11:42:35] <cruncher> JohnnnyyySmash, if by "its
ok" you mean if its possible, yes
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1623[11:42:49] <JohnnnyyySmash> cruncher: is there anyway to stop
an efi rootkit from working?
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1624[11:43:02] <RoyK> ForceRecon: usually those MFPs are network
connected, which saves you a lot of trouble
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1626[11:44:02] <cruncher> JohnnnyyySmash, best by removing it?
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1627[11:44:58] <petn-randall> JohnnnyyySmash: Do you suspect you
have a EFI rootkit on your system?
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1629[11:45:12] <JohnnnyyySmash> petn-randall: most likely i do
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1631[11:45:43] <petn-randall> JohnnnyyySmash: What symptoms are
you seeing?
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1632[11:45:45] <cruncher> JohnnnyyySmash, why you think so?
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1633[11:46:30] <rotaticus> back it up
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1634[11:46:35] <JohnnnyyySmash> nothing but the fed indictment i
got slapped with i figure they have to have some way to keep the
malware persistant on me
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1637[11:47:17] <petn-randall> JohnnnyyySmash: Are you running
Kali?
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1638[11:47:26] <JohnnnyyySmash> petn-randall: nope debian
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1639[11:47:49] <cruncher> imo, that is a huge leap from a
"fed indictment" to an efi rootkit
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1640[11:48:05] <petn-randall> !ot
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1641[11:48:05] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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1643[11:48:25] <JohnnnyyySmash> cruncher: well it was a huge jump
in my mind for them to send my crao to quantico but they did
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1647[11:50:38] <oo_miguel> is the naming of sd{a,b,c,d,..}
consistent over reboots?
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1649[11:50:50] <cruncher> oo_miguel, no
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1650[11:50:59] <oo_miguel> cruncher: ok thank you
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1651[11:51:02] <petn-randall> oo_miguel: no, it's not 100%
consistent.
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1654[11:51:29] <cruncher> oo_miguel, use UUID instead
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1668[11:57:54] <TandyUK> installing debian 8.8 on a hp blade, the
netinst asked me to provide the firmware for (i think) bcm43.
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1671[11:58:29] <TandyUK> having not given that firmware,
completed the install, and added "non-free contrib" to my
apt sources.list, its not pulling in the firmware for that device
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1673[11:58:46] <TandyUK> how do i get a list of what devicesi n
the system do not have their firmware loaded?
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1675[11:59:13] <g0zzy> Is it just me or do others find that watch
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1676[11:59:24] <cruncher> TandyUK, just do dmesg | grep -i
firmware, it will show you which firmware files it wanted
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1677[11:59:31] <cruncher> then you can search for the packages
that contain them
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1679[11:59:50] <blackflow> TandyUK: apt search --names-only
firmware- and see which packages might apply to your hardware, in
addition to what cruncher said
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1686[12:02:19] <ForceRecon> does debian-offtopic exist
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1689[12:02:27] <cruncher> ForceRecon, yes
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1690[12:02:33] <ForceRecon> the channel message has a period in
it
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1692[12:03:31] <ForceRecon> /join #debian-offtopic
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1693[12:03:34] <ForceRecon> whoops
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1698[12:09:05] * g0zzy finds that the main problem with watch -g is
false positives
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1713[12:15:24] <g0zzy> What do you guys do about this? I find
myself having to write looping scripts
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1715[12:15:51] <ForceRecon>
replaced-url
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1718[12:16:56] <petn-randall> g0zzy: I hardly use watch -g for
scripting. Usually a bash loop works better.
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1719[12:17:05] <petn-randall> s/hardly/never/
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1721[12:17:12] <ForceRecon> I only know what I read.. never
implemented on my part.. just something I was reading when you
posted
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1722[12:17:43] <g0zzy> So it _isn't_ just me then ;)
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1724[12:18:50] <cruncher> g0zzy, why "isnt just me"?
its an intended feature, it exits when output changes
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1727[12:19:34] <g0zzy> I mean, if it worked reliably, then the
likes of me and petn-randall wouldn't have to reinvent it
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1729[12:19:51] <cruncher> g0zzy, it works reliably. Or did you
find a bug?
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1733[12:22:28] <g0zzy> This was the latest failure: though maybe
my command is wrong: watch -n 60 -g wget -O -
replaced-url
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1734[12:22:40] <g0zzy> ('cow' is an alarm)
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1735[12:22:49] <TandyUK> hmm, how do i go about making user
crontabs support @reboot on debian (8.8)?
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1738[12:23:37] <g0zzy> That watch never exited even when the grep
finally succeeded manually.
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1739[12:23:44] <TandyUK> or can i use that in /etc/crontab with
the correct username?
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should be executed by watch
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1816[13:00:46] <OS-10868> hellp
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1818[13:00:50] <OS-10868> hello
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1823[13:02:51] <OS-10868> hello
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1824[13:03:02] <petn-randall> OS-10868: Do you need help?
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1825[13:03:13] <petn-randall> !kali
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1826[13:03:13] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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1827[13:03:14] <OS-10868> yes is this the offsec channel
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1831[13:04:55] <cruncher> petn-randall smells kali miles away...
;-)
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1837[13:07:51] <OS-10868> /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
<email-address>
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1844[13:10:23] <petn-randall> OS-10868: No, this is #debian.
Connect to the correct channel. I recommend trying #kali-linux.
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1846[13:10:48] <petn-randall> cruncher: OS-[0-9]+ as nick is a
dead giveaway.
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1851[13:11:04] <petn-randall> OS-10868: Who sent you, btw?
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1900[13:36:40] <|N|> ,v glibc
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1901[13:36:41] <judd> No package named 'glibc' was
found in amd64.
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1902[13:36:46] <|N|> ,v glibc-dev
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1903[13:36:47] <judd> No package named 'glibc-dev' was
found in amd64.
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1904[13:37:02] <|N|> whats the glibc package on stretch?
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1908[13:37:43] <|N|> how do i reinstall glibc on stretch?
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1910[13:38:33] <towo^work> why?
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1913[13:39:14] <|N|> my code gives error with glibc...also the
one i downloaded didnt hav the correct signature
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1915[13:40:16] <towo^work> glibc aka libc6 is an essential
package, you can't simple reinstall it, but try apt install
libc6 --reinstall
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1916[13:40:28] <towo^work> i don't think it would help on
your "problem"
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1918[13:40:44] <|N|> ok ill try
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1921[13:41:44] <jelly> |N|: what kind of code, what kind of
error?
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1922[13:41:46] <jelly> !ask
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1923[13:41:46] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1924[13:41:56] <|N|> hwo will i redownload the deb file?
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1925[13:42:13] <|N|>
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1926[13:42:19] <|N|> line 16 onwards
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1927[13:42:44] <jelly> |N|: and that's an output of which
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1930[13:43:00] <|N|> nm -C -g mysolib.so
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1933[13:43:23] <jelly> |N|: what does "ldd mysolib.so"
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1934[13:43:27] <|N|> jelly: any idea why thts happpening?
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1937[13:43:42] <CuteMeOwnThroat> no, because you haven't
told us
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1938[13:43:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> we're also still puzzeling
about "the one i downloaded didnt hav the correct
signature"
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1940[13:44:31] <|N|>
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1942[13:44:41] <dstensnes> |N|: what were you trying to
accomplish really?
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1943[13:44:49] <|N|> its my bot
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1944[13:44:51] <CuteMeOwnThroat> but sounds a bit like you just
got some runtimelibrary that wasn't compiled for stretch and
now wonder why it doesn't work
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1945[13:45:00] <jelly> |N|: do you have the source code?
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1946[13:45:03] <|N|> i get a segfault while loading tht so file
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1947[13:45:06] <|N|> yeah
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1948[13:45:09] <jelly> rebuild it.
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1949[13:45:14] <|N|> i did
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1950[13:45:20] <dstensnes> but not on stretch?
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1951[13:45:29] <|N|> jelly: is there anything wrong with tht so
file
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1952[13:45:46] <jelly> |N|: hard to say, I've never looked
at nm directly
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1953[13:45:47] <|N|> ok
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1954[13:45:55] <|N|> ill try rebuilding
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1965[13:50:08] <ForceRecon> okay I need a moment.. I just
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termius-app and the uninstall snap.. err the issue..
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1966[13:50:17] <ForceRecon> what is snap vs snapd and do I need
snap
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1975[13:58:01] <ForceRecon> what is the difference
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1977[13:58:39] <beo> hello, how do i upgrade from
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1980[14:01:15] <jelly> beo: follow the jessie->stretch
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1983[14:01:31] <beo> ok
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1984[14:01:33] <jelly> one of the steps is temporarily disabling
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1985[14:01:40] <jelly> dpkg, jessie->stretch
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1988[14:01:49] <jelly> dpkg, stretch release notes
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1989[14:01:50] <dpkg> The release notes for Debian 9
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2009[14:14:16] <tdn> Did anything change to dhcpd in Debian 9 in
the way dhcpd gives out search suffix for DNS? Since I upgraded my
dhcp server to debian 9, clients do not get a new dns
"search" suffix added to their resolv.conf. How to fix
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2031[14:22:10] <petn-randall> tdn: which dhcp server are you
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2034[14:23:39] <tdn> petn-randall, isc
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2038[14:23:51] <tdn> Was not aware there were more than one :)
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2039[14:24:13] <tdn> isc-dhcp-server
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2050[14:29:28] <OS-31224> A
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2057[14:33:07] <petn-randall> tdn: I'd use wireshark to
decode what the dhcp client is asking for, and what the server is
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2066[14:39:29] <tw> I think there are at least 3 dhcp servers in
debian (isc, udhcpd, dnsmasq). Not including radvd, etc.
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2067[14:39:44] <tw> (sort of off-topic)
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2068[14:39:48] <petn-randall> Probably more.
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2069[14:40:09] <tw> very likely
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2130[15:09:52] <sIRwa2> is there a quick command to get my local
ip? like ifconfig -a
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2134[15:11:26] <RoyK> sIRwa2: ip a
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2137[15:12:30] <sIRwa2> damn, ALL linus commands are with - or
— this is the first i seen it without tnx :)
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2138[15:12:30] <RoyK> sIRwa2: ifconfig isn't in by default
anymore, but can be installed, apt install net-tools
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2139[15:12:41] <sIRwa2> yhea. i saw that.
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2140[15:12:48] <sIRwa2> tnx
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2141[15:12:52] <beo> where can i find default sshd_config file on
debian stretch?
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2143[15:12:58] <RoyK> ip a is short for "ip address
list"
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2144[15:13:10] <sIRwa2> beo: /etc/ssh/
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2149[15:14:51] <beo> sIRwa2: i upgraded keeping the modified
version
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2165[15:22:09] <RoyK> !next
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2173[15:26:28] <rdz> hey all. how can i identify packages that
are still installed but are not in the repo anymore?
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2175[15:27:07] <rdz> for instance: denyhosts: after upgrading to
jessie, it is still installed, but jessie doesn't provide a
denyhost package
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2181[15:28:20] <RoyK> rdz: not sure if there's a good way to
do it - as for denyhosts, I miss it…
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2182[15:28:30] <RoyK> but then, it isn't developed anymore
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2184[15:29:18] <rdz> RoyK, i'd rather not run unmaintained
software unknowingly
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2185[15:29:46] <RoyK> my point exactly
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2186[15:30:03] <iticus> rdz, aptitude search '~o'
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2188[15:30:39] <rdz> iticus, thanks.. i'll try
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2214[15:47:19] <john_rambo> When I click on pulseaudio volume
control I see this >>>
replaced-url
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2217[15:48:08] <tdn> petn-randall, I am not really sure how to do
that. But I have set "option domain-search" in my subnet
in dhcpd.conf and it has worked fine until now. Not sure why it
stopped. And if it stoped, wireshark will not really tell me why
either...
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2220[15:49:06] <rdz> john_rambo, i'm no pulse guru, but it
seems there is no pulseaudio server running (or Volume Control
cannot find it)
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2222[15:49:30] <rdz> john_rambo, i'd try starting pulse
server from cmd: pulseaudio --start
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2224[15:50:28] <john_rambo> rdz, # pulseaudio --start
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2225[15:50:29] <john_rambo> bash: pulseaudio: command not found
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2229[15:51:19] <rdz> john_rambo, do you have the package
pulseaudio installed?
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2230[15:51:29] <rdz> john_rambo, sudo apt install pulseaudio
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2231[15:51:44] <john_rambo> rdz, Running that atm
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2233[15:53:42] <john_rambo> rdz, That solved it. Thanks
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2248[16:00:30] <sIRwa2> guy’s, on a new install, i get E:
Unable to locate package zfs-dkms when i do a apt-get install
zfs-dkms
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2250[16:00:58] <babilen> contrib configured?
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2251[16:01:04] <jolt> sIRwa2: Do you have the contrib part
configured?
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2252[16:01:13] <jolt> babilen: Damn you're fast!
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2253[16:01:17] <petn-randall> ,v zfs-dkms
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2254[16:01:18] <judd> Package: zfs-dkms on amd64 --
jessie-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.9-2~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib:
0.6.5.9-5; jessie-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1~bpo8+1;
stretch-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib:
0.6.5.11-1; sid/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1
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2256[16:01:30] <petn-randall> jolt: babilen cheated by only
typing to words ;)
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2257[16:01:40] <jolt> petn-randall: :D
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2258[16:01:45] <sIRwa2> contrib is new for me :)
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2259[16:02:13] <jolt> petn-randall: I defer to you then to have
some fancy command for judd to explain how to add it
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2260[16:02:20] <babilen> sIRwa2: Edit your sources.list and
ensure that entries in there end in "main contrib" or
"main contrib non-free" -- contrib is software that is
free itself, but relies on non-free software to function
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2262[16:02:29] <babilen> dpkg: contrib
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2263[16:02:30] <dpkg> [contrib] Debian packages that contain
<DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main
(possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages,
add lines like "deb
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2267[16:03:37] <ZetFury> Anyone else noticed fstab sometimes not
mounting cifs at start in debian 9 stretch?
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2268[16:03:49] <sIRwa2> tnx guy’s ill get on that
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2309[16:18:05] <CuteMeOwnThroat> dpkg, factinfo frankendebian
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2310[16:18:06] <dpkg> frankendebian -- created by ompaul
<~ompaul@109.76.218.147> at Sat Sep 24 20:14:09 2011 (2173
days); last modified at Sun Sep 25 08:55:31 2011 by
themill!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill; it has been requested 755
times, last by grove, 1d 5h 8m 36s ago.
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2314[16:18:21] <CuteMeOwnThroat> dpkg, factinfo mixing
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2315[16:18:21] <dpkg> mixing -- created by CutMeOwnThroat
<~k@unaffiliated/iridos> at Wed Nov 24 19:45:49 2010 (2477
days); last modified at Mon Jul 4 13:33:10 2016 by
Iridos!~iridos@unaffiliated/iridos; it has been requested 65 times,
last by n4dir at Tue Jan 17 13:56:44 2017.
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2316[16:18:31] <CuteMeOwnThroat> heh
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2318[16:19:31] <CuteMeOwnThroat> dpkg, factinfo ask
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2319[16:19:31] <dpkg> ask -- last modified at Thu Jul 11 18:40:25
2013 by
doubledutch!~dd@108-227-240-115.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net; it
has been requested 9784 times, last by jelly, 2h 37m 45s ago.
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2329[16:20:40] <darxmurf> huh, NIS in stretch still returns this
error when a user tries to change it's password ?? passwd:
Authentication token manipulation error
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2343[16:24:54] <Nexiu> Hello. I have bought cloud server with
debian, but now i got only terminal access. I do apt-get install
gnome but how can I access to gui when it finish install?
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2344[16:25:03] <darxmurf> sorry my fault apparently it's ok
with yppasswd
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2348[16:25:50] <petn-randall> Nexiu: Do you have graphical access
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2349[16:26:24] <Nexiu> From ovh manager?
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2350[16:26:48] <Nexiu> I dont know atm, but guess that I habe
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2351[16:26:56] <jolt> Nexiu: You could run VNC or something like
that perhaps?
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2352[16:27:08] <jolt> or X-forward
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2355[16:28:32] <DieMoesch> Or X2Go
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2356[16:29:00] <petn-randall> Nexiu: I'd expect it to be
quite slow accessing gnome over the network. What do you want to do
with that machine?
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2357[16:29:51] <Nexiu> petn-randall I need to run simultaneously
8 android phone with Genymotion emulator.
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2358[16:29:58] <Nexiu> On my own pc I can run 4
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2361[16:30:04] <Nexiu> but I need 8
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2370[16:34:54] <ksk> sounds legit ;)
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2387[16:40:51] <jhutchins_wk> darxmurf: iirc there's a way
to alias that.
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2393[16:46:30] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
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2394[16:46:31] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.13.0-rc7-686-pae (4.13~rc7-1~exp1); sid:
4.12.0-1-686 (4.12.6-1); buster: 4.12.0-1-686 (4.12.6-1);
stretch-backports: 4.11.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.11.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686
(4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
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2395[16:46:32] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
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2401[16:47:24] <CrazyTux> is lxqt de stable enough to be used by
a beginner? is it as stable as lxde?
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2473[17:23:10] <jhutchin1_wk> ,v lxqt
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2474[17:23:11] <judd> Package: lxqt on amd64 -- stretch: 13;
buster: 19; sid: 19
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2482[17:28:59] <gnat_x> so i seem to be getting caught with
replaced-url
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2483[17:29:00] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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dirmngr do you have installed?
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2573[18:09:09] <ssarah> hei hei, is there a good debian server
guide. Something that recommends steps and stuff (like security) you
should do post install? And system audits and the standard way to
create services?
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2575[18:09:19] <ssarah> I'm reading the ubuntu server guide
as an alternative right now
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2579[18:12:00] <petn-randall> !debian handbook
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2580[18:12:00] <dpkg> The Debian Administrator's Handbook is
at
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2581[18:12:03] <petn-randall> ssarah: ^^^
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2616[18:26:48] <jhutchins_wk> The System Administrator's
Guide at TLDP is a bit dated and RedHatish, but has some good
basics.
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2617[18:26:52] <jhutchins_wk> ssarah: The Linux System
Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource:
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2624[18:31:46] <jhutchins_wk> ssarah: This is also a bit out of
date but still good concepts:
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2627[18:32:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> let us know when you figured out
what to do securitywise after an install ^^
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2629[18:33:35] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: wow, did you find a piece of
TLDP that's less that 15 years old?
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2631[18:33:52] <jelly> (or that has had an update since 2005)
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2632[18:33:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> he did say "a bit
outdated" ^^
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2633[18:34:00] <sIRwa2> is ssh out of the box sftp enabled in
stretch? i feel like im missing a step, can log in
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2635[18:34:21] <jelly> sIRwa2: yes. Did you mean "cannot log
in"
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2639[18:34:47] <sIRwa2> connection refused in filezilla :/
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2644[18:35:43] <jelly> sIRwa2: make sure openssh-server package
is installed, first; then verify network connectivity to port 22/tcp
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2647[18:36:28] <sIRwa2> even when i am already using ssh atm?
jelly ?
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2648[18:37:13] <jelly> sIRwa2: using ssh client locally on the
same machine? Yes.
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2650[18:37:36] <sIRwa2> no.. remote machine in lan
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2653[18:38:48] <jelly> sIRwa2: so you have a remote debian
system, and you're able to connect to it using an ssh client,
but you're unable to connect to sftp protocol with filezilla
from the same client host?
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2657[18:39:19] <sIRwa2> correct :)
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2658[18:39:33] <jelly> sIRwa2: which OS on the client host?
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2660[18:40:20] <sIRwa2> macos.. used to do it fine,.. to day
installed a vm with stretch
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2662[18:40:50] <jelly> sIRwa2: do you have an "sftp"
CLI command there? Try using that.
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2664[18:41:19] <sIRwa2> yhea. didnt try that yet
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2666[18:42:04] <jelly> give it the same options as you did for
ssh
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2667[18:42:23] <jhutchins_wk> There is some confusion,
"sftp" is used for both file transfer over ssh and for ssl
secured ftp.
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2669[18:42:56] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: TLS capable ftp ought to use
"FTPS" or "ftps" not "sftp"
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2671[18:43:11] <koeppea> The difference is SFTP=FTP through SSH
and FTPS=TLS secured FTP
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2672[18:43:13] <koeppea> correct
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2674[18:43:25] <jelly> koeppea: no, sftp is a completely
different protocol
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2678[18:44:09] <jelly> (that does similar things, but a different
protocol nevertheless)
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2679[18:45:01] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: Agreed, but not consistent.
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2681[18:45:44] <jelly> if anyone does that they're idiots,
sftp probably existed before ftp gained ssl or tls
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2683[18:46:08] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: The supply of idiots seems
to be fairly constant.
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2686[18:46:25] <jelly> that's a relief
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2687[18:46:37] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: It tends to happen more in
Windows file transfer programs.
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2690[18:47:35] <jhutchins_wk> Windows doesn't have native
ssh, so they tend to be ignorant of it.
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2691[18:47:50] <ssarah> Right now I'm using Lynis for
security audits
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2695[18:49:45] <ssarah> ty guys :)
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2697[18:50:06] <jelly> !debsecan
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2698[18:50:07] <dpkg> debsecan is probably a program that reports
security advisories against programs installed on the host, similar
to gentoo's glsa-check. See
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2700[18:50:48] <jelly> ssarah: ^^ checks against debian's
security database
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2701[18:50:53] <jelly> !tracker of doom
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2702[18:50:53] <dpkg> The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability
database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at
replaced-url
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2704[18:51:19] <n4dir> iirc: if there is anything
"unusual" (from defaults) when it comes to the ssh-config
file, when using filezilla the best was to create a .ssh/config
file. That worked pretty straight forward.
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2705[18:51:29] <n4dir> i didn't read the beginning of the
actual problem though
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2707[18:52:01] <n4dir> i would also try either rsync or sshfs (to
me both are more comfortable than sftp).
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2709[18:52:21] <ssarah> holy crap, I just ran debsecan on my
personal machine (unlike my servers it's ubuntu) and it listed
like 300 exploits? the f.
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2710[18:53:19] <ssarah> this is "normal" ?
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2713[18:54:33] <z3r01> dont suppose anyone knows how to get the
middlebutton scoll on a thinkpadx200 working in bunsenlabs? haha]
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2720[18:57:13] <jelly> !bunsenlabs
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2721[18:57:13] <dpkg> BunsenLabs Linux is a community
continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox>
window manager. It is not supported in #debian.
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2722[18:57:20] <jelly> ah
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2723[18:57:27] <magyar> hi, I'm my ethernet connection is
greyed out the "Connect" button in network manager, why?
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2724[18:57:49] <jelly> magyar: maybe you have an entry for it in
/etc/network/interfaces
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2727[18:58:17] <sIRwa2> tnx jelly, cli sftp login worked fine..
guess its client side :)
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2729[18:58:51] <magyar> jelly: nope, only lo interface
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2733[18:59:37] <jelly> magyar: anything in
/etc/network/interfaces.d/ maybe?
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2735[19:00:02] <magyar> jelly: not a single file
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2736[19:00:14] <jelly> then it's not ifupdown
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2739[19:00:48] <jelly> and I know very little about
NetworkManager
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2740[19:01:24] <jelly> perhaps it only enables the iface when a
link is detected?
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2746[19:03:27] <magyar> jelly: not sure, it only enables me to
connect if I bring the eth0 down
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2747[19:03:54] <magyar> but each connection has a dedicated
interface assigned to it
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2749[19:04:05] <magyar> this NM is a pita from day one
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2755[19:07:41] <ssarah> hmm, so how do i solve this
vulnerabilities found by debsecan?
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2760[19:09:30] <jelly> ssarah: wait until debian fixes them
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2762[19:09:42] <jelly> but at least now you're better
informed
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2763[19:09:55] <ssarah> oh wow
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2765[19:10:19] <ssarah> CVE-2015-3290 linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64
(high urgency) <- i got a bunch of these on a server :X
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2766[19:10:27] <jelly> assuming you keep the system patched up
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2768[19:10:47] <jelly> !cve lookup CVE-2015-3290
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2769[19:10:48] <dpkg> Information about the security advisory
CVE-2015-3290 may be found at
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2772[19:11:12] <ssarah> should i consider upgrading the kernel?
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2773[19:11:47] <magyar> jelly: I think I got it, it was set to
un-managed in the NetworkManage.conf
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2775[19:12:04] <jelly> ssarah: if the version of
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 package is less than what that page says
is fixed ^^
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2781[19:13:48] <jelly> ssarah: and if you deem a local privilege
escalation is relevant for your load. Who knows, maybe you run
everything important as root already so it's a moot point? :-)
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2787[19:15:58] <jelly> ssarah: in general if there's a newer
version of kernel package in stable or oldstable, there's good
reason for that. Keeping your systems patched up is good practice
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2790[19:16:55] <ssarah> I see, actually i duno who does the
dist-upgrades around here.
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2791[19:17:16] <ssarah> I'm just auditing stuff sometimes,
cause some machines are pretty old.
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2792[19:17:27] <jelly> and who does testing so that dist-upgrades
don't break anything
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2794[19:17:51] <jhutchins_wk> ssarah: As packages get older, more
vulnerabilities tend to get found (and fixed).
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2799[19:19:31] <huwjr> hia - quick question not strictly debian
related but figured you guys would know! registered panic notifier
in messages… is that in itself a kernel panic?
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2801[19:19:35] <jelly> ssarah: ir's usually safe to do an
"apt-get update" followed by "apt-get -s
dist-upgrade" (-s = --dry-run) and see just how many packages
are unpatched
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2803[19:19:59] <jelly> huwjr: no
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2807[19:20:18] <huwjr> didn’t think so. just wanted to be
sure. what’s it really saying then?
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2808[19:20:40] <jhutchins_wk> ssarah: Notice that while that
vulnerability applies to all kernels prior to 4.1.6, in Debian
it's fixed in 3.2.78-1
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2809[19:20:52] <jelly> huwjr: show the whole line
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2811[19:21:04] <huwjr> drm: registered panic notifier
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2812[19:21:08] <huwjr> think it’s graphics related
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2813[19:21:11] <huwjr> what isn’t eh? :p
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2814[19:21:25] <jelly> huwjr: which kernel version is this?
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2815[19:21:34] <jhutchins_wk> ssarah: ... or more relavant to
you, 3.16.43-2+deb8u2
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2817[19:21:54] <huwjr> 3.2.0-4
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2818[19:22:22] <jelly> ,kernels
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2819[19:22:23] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.13.0-rc7-686-pae (4.13~rc7-1~exp1); sid:
4.12.0-1-686 (4.12.6-1); buster: 4.12.0-1-686 (4.12.6-1);
stretch-backports: 4.11.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.11.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686
(4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.43-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports:
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2820[19:22:24] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2)
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2821[19:22:39] <jelly> 3.16.43-2+deb8u3 says the bot
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2823[19:23:05] <jelly> is the latest
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2824[19:23:56] <jelly> huwjr: probably just the console
framebuffer driver saying it's subscribed to, and will try to
display a panic message should one ever happen
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2830[19:24:18] <jelly> huwjr: that's just me guessing
wildly.
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2831[19:24:37] <jelly> /var/log/kern.log.2.gz:Aug 21 11:40:35
burek kernel: [ 7.768106] i915 0000:00:02.0: registered panic
notifier
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2833[19:24:38] <huwjr> thanks, it seems to only be boot time so i
was confident it was not a problem - though i’m remote and
someone on site said it had no VGA out.
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2834[19:24:51] <jhutchins_wk> huwjr: Have you tried just pasting
the text into Google?
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2836[19:25:04] <huwjr> yes thank you.
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2837[19:25:12] <bs0d> Hello community. After login X server
misinterprets my mouse clicks. Moving mouse moves windows, clicking
something does not do anything. This is driving me crazy.
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2838[19:25:24] <jelly> huwjr: maybe it has no VGA, but it sure
seems to have a graphical card and Debian amusingly tries to load
the relevant framebuffer support at boot when it can
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2839[19:25:37] <bs0d> It is very hard to work in such a system. I
run Debian inside a vm. Can this mouse problem be fixed somehow?
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2841[19:25:52] <jelly> huwjr: context of that line should provide
clues
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2842[19:26:10] <huwjr> you’ve been a great help :)
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2843[19:26:15] <huwjr> cheers
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2846[19:27:16] <jelly> bs0d: sounds as if the VM maybe thinks a
key or mouse button is already pressed? Try pressing each modifier
key once (Alt, Ctrl, Shift, Windows, Command, Control, what have
you), and each mouse button once
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2848[19:27:22] <jhutchins_wk> bs0d: What virtualization? What
host? What release of Debian?
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2849[19:27:23] <annadane> bs0d, then it may be a vm problem
rather than a debian problem, which one do you use?
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2850[19:27:33] <jelly> bs0d: while VM "console" window
is in focus
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2854[19:27:57] <jelly> pressing and releasing, of course
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2857[19:28:35] <jelly> Alt + Left mouse is often used by window
managers to move windows
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2858[19:28:49] <arpa> ssarah: debsecan doesn't seem very, eh
useful. But you should definately patch regularily
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2861[19:29:26] <__martin__> greetings folks; bit offtopic
question.. why does "buster" have the same version of Mesa
as "jessie" && "stretch"? that being 13
which is crashing down gnome-shell + client windows'
decorations
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2862[19:29:42] <jelly> ,v libgl1-mesa-dri
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2863[19:29:43] <judd> Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 --
wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie:
10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1; buster:
13.0.6-1+b2; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; sid: 17.2.0-1
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2864[19:30:16] <arpa> just a sanity check, is anyone getting any
useful output from debsecan? run it on two fully patched machines
and it just seems to spit out lots of CVE numbers (511 of them) -
many of which are not relevant to installed packages
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2865[19:30:38] <jelly> __martin__: it takes time and bugs fixed
for latest stuff from unstable to seep down to testing
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2867[19:31:10] <__martin__> jelly: thank you, I'll remain
patient (=
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2868[19:31:17] <annadane> __martin__, for future reference
testing/unstable questions go in #debian-next
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2869[19:31:24] <jelly> __martin__: read these: /msg dpkg why is
libgl1-mesa-dri not in testing, /msg dpkg debian-next
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2870[19:31:40] <jelly> that channel is only present on
irc.oftc.net, different network
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2871[19:31:49] <annadane> oh, shit, freenode
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2872[19:31:51] <__martin__> ah
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2873[19:31:54] <jelly> no, oftc
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2874[19:31:58] <__martin__> anyways
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2875[19:32:02] <annadane> i get mixed up. yeah, it's on
irc.oftc.net
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2876[19:32:20] <annadane> jelly, no, i meant we're on
freenode now, this is the trouble with being in both #debian
channels
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2879[19:32:47] <jelly> annadane: that's why I only provide
support in the larger of those two
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2882[19:33:26] <bs0d> jelly it is quite hard to do it, but I
managed. It only switched the cursor to highlight mode, so whenever
I use the mouse, the text in the console window is highlighted :(
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2885[19:33:55] <bs0d> annadane, jhutchins_wk I use Debian 9.0.0
amd64, and host is an outdated fedora 22
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2888[19:34:34] <jelly> bs0d: if you only need X apps now and
then, you might run them via ssh -X instead of the console
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2890[19:34:56] <bs0d> oh, I am sorry. I guess this is the problem
on my host. I see the same weird behavior in fedora, and it
reflected into debian vm
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2891[19:35:19] <annadane> that's weird
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2892[19:35:49] <bs0d> I restart the host, hope it helps
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2894[19:36:17] <jelly> bs0d: remote access stuff like vnc and rdp
clients, and vbox/vmware/what have you consoles, can sometimes make
X server confused
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2896[19:36:38] <jelly> with their focus-stealing shenanigans
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2897[19:36:52] <jhutchins_wk> bs0d: O
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2898[19:37:05] <jhutchins_wk> bs0d: I have had that happen with
bad hardware.
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2899[19:37:24] <bs0d> jhutchins_wk do you know any fix for it?
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2901[19:37:41] <jhutchins_wk> bs0d: Different USB port, different
mouse.
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2904[19:38:23] <bs0d> hmm Fedora reports that Tracker Metadata
Extractor crashed. May this be related?
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2908[19:40:01] <jhutchins_wk> bs0d: -> #fedora
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2913[19:41:07] <bs0d> jhutchins_wk oh they will yell at me
because of an outdated distro. I cannot afford an upgrade now
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2921[19:44:46] <jelly> and we'll yell at you if you keep
asking Fedora questions in here
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2923[19:45:09] <jelly> so... ##linux? :-)
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2925[19:46:29] <pie3> <pie3> how to view content of DVD
from terminal?
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2926[19:46:29] <pie3> <pie3> i want to save video files
stored in DVD in hard disk
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2927[19:46:30] <pie3> <pie3> i am unable to locate files in
gui
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2936[19:51:42] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: You can try mounting it. If
there is DRM that may make it difficult.
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2941[19:52:15] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: Simplest is dd if=/dev/dvd
of=/path/to/file.iso
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2942[19:52:25] <pie3> tell me some commands so that DVD contents
can be listed jhu
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2943[19:52:27] <pie3> jhutchins_wk:
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2945[19:53:19] <jhutchins_wk> mount <device> <mount
point> - <mount point> would likely be somethng within /mnt
or /media
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2947[19:53:22] <jhutchins_wk> ls
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2949[19:53:31] <pie3> i have unmounted from gui; how to mount it
back in gui? jhutchins_wk
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2950[19:53:35] <jhutchins_wk> ls <mount point>
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2954[19:54:04] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: it's probably mounted at
/media/pie3/<something>
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2963[19:55:54] <jhutchins_wk> The "mount" command used
to be a handy way to find where it was mounted, but it's all
full of system gunk now.
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2964[19:56:27] <bs0d> jelly sorry for off-topic questions
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2973[19:59:04] <jelly> it was just that one question, but I
wanted to preempt others
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2975[19:59:52] <jelly> "df" has slightly less... gunk
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2979[20:02:05] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: You probably should eject and
reload the disk - that's easiest.
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2981[20:02:11] <pie3> ok
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2982[20:02:15] <pie3> i ejected and reload
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2983[20:02:19] <pie3> and now it is working
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2985[20:02:20] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: To actually mount it you need
to be root.
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2986[20:02:45] <pie3> how to back up the files from CD/DVD into
hard disk?
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2987[20:02:55] <pie3> is back up and copy the same thing in this
context?
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2988[20:03:00] <pie3> jhutchins_wk:
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2998[20:06:42] <somiaj> pie3: yes, a backup will just be a copy,
but you have to decide if you want a copy of the cd/dvd image or the
contents of the file system
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3000[20:07:26] <pie3> copy and content are not the same thing?
what is diff? somiaj
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3010[20:08:22] <somiaj> pie3: the image will be a copy of the
filesystem, while the contents will be a copy of the files on a
different file system.
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3013[20:08:40] <somiaj> pie3: I'm unsure what the cd/dvd is,
but most likely you just want to copy the files onto the file system
on the harddrive
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3018[20:09:33] <somiaj> pie3: for example the debian .iso images,
that is a copy of the whole image, vs copying the actual files on
the cd/dvd
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3033[20:13:30] <pie3> it is video files
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3035[20:13:51] <somiaj> pie3: I would just copy the files, not
the image.
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3036[20:14:04] <somiaj> also please don't message people
(without asking first), keep support in the channel
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3042[20:15:06] <Orxata_> Hi
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3044[20:15:31] <Orxata_> I've installed firmware debian on a
laptop with windows 10 preinstalled
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3045[20:15:41] <Orxata_> Now when I turn on the computer the grub
doesn't even appear
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3047[20:16:01] <Orxata_> My only option to boot to debian is to
use "advanced boot options" from windows 10
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3048[20:16:09] <somiaj> What image did you use to install debian?
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3049[20:16:10] <Orxata_> how can I fix this?
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3050[20:16:22] <somiaj> was it the non-free netinstall or a
non-free live image?
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3051[20:16:23] <Orxata_> firmware-9.1.0-amd64
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3052[20:16:32] <Orxata_> -DVD
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3053[20:16:44] <somiaj> that is really what the image is called?
I don't reconize that as a debian image.
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3055[20:16:57] <Orxata_> I suppose it is a non-free live image
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3057[20:17:20] <Orxata_> the problem is that my hardware
doesn't have opensource drivers for my network card. So
it's useless to try to install a netinstall
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3058[20:17:22] <somiaj> so live images will only install in
legacy mode, it could be your system is using efi boot and not
showing legacy boot options. Have you looked under advanced boot
options?
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3059[20:17:28] <pie3> what is xterm or x11?
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3060[20:17:41] <pie3> the terminal which i have is it called
terminal or terminal emulator?
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3061[20:17:44] <pie3> i have gnome terminal
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3062[20:17:46] <Orxata_> somiaj: I've started with recovery
mode and reinstalled the grub-install
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3063[20:17:58] <somiaj> Orxata_: it isn't useless to isntall
the netinstall as it does conatain a base system and can install
without internet. Though I would suggest using the non-free
netinstall image
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3065[20:18:02] <somiaj> !firmware images
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3066[20:18:02] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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3067[20:18:56] <Orxata_> so...
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3069[20:19:04] <n4dir> pie3: both, xterm and gnome-terminal, are
terminal emulators. many use terminal as a short form though
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3070[20:19:25] <n4dir> well: as far i can tell ...
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3071[20:19:39] <pie3> xterm is separate program than gnome
terminal?
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3072[20:19:46] <pie3> what is x11
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3073[20:19:47] <n4dir> pie3: yup.
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3074[20:20:01] <pie3> xterm is better than gnome?
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3075[20:20:04] <n4dir> x11 is ... puh ... the graphical interface
?
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3076[20:20:08] <pie3> yes
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3077[20:20:09] <n4dir> the GUI.
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3078[20:20:10] <pie3> how to launch it
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3079[20:20:31] <pie3> is it possible to run command like
wget/grep etc.. from x11?
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3080[20:20:33] <n4dir> you launch X11 either via
"startx" or via a display-manager like gdm, kdm, etc
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3081[20:20:47] <Orxata_> on a youtube video it sugest that I
should install Fast Startup
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3082[20:20:49] <somiaj> Orxata_: the unoffical netisntall I
linked will support both efi and legacy boot. Live imgages only
support legacy boot. This maybe part of your issue.
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3083[20:20:53] <pie3> <pie3> xterm is better than gnome?
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3084[20:21:08] <n4dir> pie3: to run commands in a x11
environment, you typically use a terminal-emulator
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3085[20:21:12] <somiaj> Orxata_: depending on your system, you
may need to configure the firmware to use legacy vs efi boot
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3086[20:21:14] <pie3> how to return back to this screen if i am
entered in x11
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3087[20:21:20] <pie3> by startx
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3089[20:21:28] <Orxata_> damn...
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3090[20:21:34] <somiaj> pie3: xterm and gnome are completely
different things, so not really comparable. One is a small termial
emulator software, the other is a full desktop enviorment.
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3091[20:21:48] <pie3> whcih is full?
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3093[20:22:00] <pie3> which one most of people use?
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3096[20:22:23] <Orxata_> this is frustrating
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3098[20:22:31] <n4dir> pie3: one way to get to tty is to use the
keyboard shortcut (for example) : alt+ctlr+F2 (iirc F3, F4 ... F7)
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3099[20:22:33] <Orxata_> it doesn't bring me happiness
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3100[20:22:53] <pie3> what is tty? n4dir
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3101[20:22:56] <n4dir> pie3: gnome3 is comfortable, xterm is
light, but not everone likes it
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3103[20:23:19] <n4dir> pie3: that thing you see if no X, no GUI,
is running. A command line interface
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3104[20:23:19] <somiaj> pie3: gnome is the default and used by
lots of people. If you like it use it, and then just use the
gnome-terminal that comes with it. Debian provides choice, and some
people like other software.
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3107[20:24:30] <n4dir> yeah, i agree with somiaj . nothing wrong
with using gnome-terminal, and if you really need xterm, you
probably will find it out.
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3108[20:24:40] <Orxata_> somiaj: is it possible to install debian
from dvd and once its done get internet access?
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3110[20:24:56] <somiaj> Orxata_: yes
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3111[20:25:01] <Orxata_> how?
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3114[20:25:13] <BCMM> pie3: when you said xterm, were you perhaps
thinking of xfce?
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3117[20:25:21] <pie3> for help.
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3118[20:25:21] <pie3> (EE) Please also check the log file at
"/home/veepie/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log" for additional
information.
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3119[20:25:21] <pie3> (EE)
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3120[20:25:21] <pie3> (EE) Server terminated with error (1).
Closing log file.
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3121[20:25:23] <pie3> xinit: giving up
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3123[20:25:24] <somiaj> Orxata_: If it is just a firmware issue,
copy over the firmware package from packages.debian.org and install
it. Thumbdrive helps
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3125[20:25:41] <pie3> how to resolve it?
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3126[20:25:56] <Orxata_> I'm gonna try deactivating the uefi
mode first...
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3130[20:26:42] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: Start X again like you did
before?
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3132[20:27:18] <pie3> i tried again same result jhutchins_wk
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3133[20:27:34] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6 should switch
you to a standard console. You can also start "terminal"
or "xterm" from within Gnome and you'll have a
console window.
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3135[20:27:39] <pie3> a black screen for a moment and then i am
returned
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3136[20:27:44] <n4dir> and how did you try to start X `
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3137[20:28:01] <pie3> by typing word "startx" at
terminal n4dir
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3138[20:28:22] <pie3> isnt it correct way?
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3139[20:28:23] <n4dir> from where? The tty or a terminal emulator
like xterm, gnome-terminal, etc
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3140[20:28:31] <pie3> from gnome-terminal
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3142[20:28:40] <n4dir> Then X is already running.
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3144[20:29:05] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: There are ways to do that but
that's not what you want.
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3147[20:29:45] <n4dir> btw, pie3 telling us what you want, not
the means how you try to reach that, might be the better approach
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3149[20:30:28] <jhutchins_wk> n4dir: He's trying to access
the contents of a DVD and copy it to his hard disk. Not sure what
kind of DVD.
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3150[20:30:42] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: Here's some reading for
later:
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3151[20:30:48] <jhutchins_wk> pie3:
replaced-url
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3152[20:30:48] <pie3> i want to get a feel of x11
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3153[20:30:54] <n4dir> jhutchins_wk: yeah, but then it all went
to xterm versus gnome-terminal, X, and what not .
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3158[20:31:22] <pie3> DVD issue is over jhutchins_wk
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3159[20:31:31] <klys> pie3, if your display is in graphics mode,
you are using X11.
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3160[20:31:33] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: Ah, good.
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3161[20:31:37] <n4dir> pie3: if all you still want is to copy the
contents of your DVD, then none of the other questions have much to
do with it (i try to avoid to say: nothing :-) )
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3163[20:31:51] <jhutchins_wk> n4dir: I guess he solved that.
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3164[20:31:59] <klys> pie3, mencoder is the best way to copy an
actual DVD.
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3165[20:32:02] <n4dir> yup, i posted to slowly. Sorry.
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3167[20:32:18] <pie3> why klys
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3168[20:32:19] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: If you're in
gnome-terminal and you want to go back to gnome, just type
"exit" or hit Ctrl-D.
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3169[20:32:46] <pie3> jhutchins_wk: what is gnome
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3170[20:32:49] <n4dir> i bet the debian wiki or the debian
handbook or any other documentation to be found at debian.org can
explain X and the rest better ... pie3
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3171[20:32:59] <klys> pie3, because DVDs consist of encrypted
video streams.
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3174[20:33:29] <pie3> so anythign which is encrypted should be
copied by mencoder?
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3175[20:33:32] <pie3> is it a copy tool?
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3177[20:33:58] <klys> pie3, it's a transcoding tool for
multimedia.
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3178[20:34:13] <pie3> why it is needed? why not simple copy and
paste?
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3179[20:34:38] <pie3> transcoding from which to which form?
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3180[20:34:46] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: It can handle various other
formats.
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3184[20:35:10] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: You can use it to convert
from a standard video DVD to a file that can be streamed on the web,
things like that.
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3185[20:35:13] <pie3> i guess format handling is requried by
VLC/media player
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3186[20:35:18] <klys> pie3, because the DVD has encryption, it is
done by both the DVD media itself and the drive you are using.
replaced-url
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3187[20:35:21] <pie3> why it is needed during copy/paste
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3193[20:35:44] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: VLC can play .iso files,
which is what you get if you use DD. Copying with a GUI might not
work.
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3196[20:36:06] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: The files have to be in the
right format on the target disk for the video to play.
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3197[20:36:25] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: It depends how the disk was
created.
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3198[20:36:42] <jhutchins_wk> s/DD/dd/
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3199[20:37:07] <jhutchins_wk> klys: I've had very good luck
just using dd and writing to an .iso file.
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3201[20:37:21] <jhutchins_wk> klys: When copying commercial DVDs.
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3202[20:37:36] <klys> jhutchins_wk, even ones that weren't
in your region code?
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3204[20:37:42] <jhutchins_wk> Then again, I haven't done
that much.
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3205[20:38:02] <jhutchins_wk> klys: Haven't experimented
enough. The region code blocking happens at drive firmware level.
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3208[20:38:17] <jhutchins_wk> klys: Does mencoder work around
that?
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3209[20:38:54] <klys> jhutchins_wk, see my link for region-free
firmwares for old drives
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3211[20:39:20] <klys> newer drives are not hacked, as the project
was abandoned.
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3212[20:39:28] <jhutchins_wk> Cool, not needed, but interesting.
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3223[20:41:29] <jhutchins_wk> pie3:
replaced-url
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3224[20:42:05] <jhutchins_wk> pie3: The cdrfaq is pretty much
EVERYTHING there is to know about CD/DVDs.
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3233[20:46:28] <annadane> pie3, for future reference you can use
tab completion if your irc client supports it for names so you
don't have to type them out in full, just type the first few
letters and press tab
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3234[20:47:37] <pie3> annadane: yes i use it
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3235[20:47:50] <pie3> thanks for sharing tip, you can share more
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3243[20:52:06] <tdn> I have a number of virtualbox guest VMs with
both debian 8 and debian 9 running KDE desktop. All have the
virtualbox additions installed. However, performance is
significantly better on debian 8. Debian 9 is so slow that it is
almost unusable. Resizing windows has a visible lag. And alt+tab
between running windows is also maybe half a sec to change. Is
anyone else experiencing this? The host is a modern quad
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3244[20:52:12] <tdn> core intel i7 CPU with 32 GB RAM and all
storage is on SSD.
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3245[20:52:19] <tdn> I installed vbox guest additions from the
cdrom iso that is provided by the host virtualbox. What can cause
this poor performance on debian 9 compared to debian 8?
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3246[20:52:33] <tdn> This is extremely slow. Like swimming
through molases. I mean, 0.5-1 sec from clicking a button to
something actually happening. Chromium is exceptionally slow. Maybe
10 secs to open gmail.
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3253[20:53:24] <Nexiu> what should I do when glxinfo give me
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig. I use debian
on cloud machine, lspci give: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller:
Cirrus Logic GD 5446
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3257[20:53:51] <petemc> tdn: if you run top do you see anything
with high cpu or memory utilisation?
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3258[20:53:56] <jhutchins_wk> tdn: D9 uses more RAM than D8 -
could the 9 systems be swapping?
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3259[20:53:57] <teraflops> Nexiu: youre using a shitty gpu driver
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3262[20:54:12] <teraflops> tdn: check video drivers
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3268[20:55:22] <Nexiu> teraflops: so where I should start? I want
to run Genymotion app but it give me a fatal error: Could not
initialize GLX, so I try glxinfo and I get error
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3270[20:55:36] <dstensnes> Nexiu: are you sure the cloud machine
has 3d graphics capabilities at all? I mean, without software
fakery?
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3271[20:55:39] <teraflops> Nexiu: also cloud machine… what
are you using for getting graphics? rdp? vnc?
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3272[20:55:40] <cruncher> tdn, i asked you last time something,
and you didnt answer anymore, so i thought its setlled
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3275[20:55:56] <teraflops> Nexiu: of course you get glx error
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3276[20:56:11] <Nexiu> vnc
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3278[20:56:35] <dstensnes> well, vnc doesn't support 3d
graphics, which is what glx is refering to
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3280[20:57:06] <Nexiu> so I should try rdp protocol?
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3281[20:57:10] <cruncher> tdn, anyway, check in the machine
settings, system, acceleration
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3287[20:57:52] <teraflops> Nexiu: idk about vnc and getting hw
accel. did you search for info about running genimotion through vnc?
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3288[20:57:53] <dstensnes> Nexiu: well, i mean. you could
probably do 3d graphics and show it via vnc
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3290[20:58:07] <dstensnes> but the problem is probably more about
cloud computer vs 3d graphics
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3294[20:58:47] <dstensnes> most cloud computers skip the whole 3d
graphics stuff, because they are meant to run services
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3295[20:58:56] <teraflops> Nexiu: cloud computer, the cloud bit
is too vague
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3296[20:59:17] <teraflops> which hypervisor is this?
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3297[20:59:31] <dstensnes> you could maybe make 3d work with
software rendering, but you would probably not get any kind of
performance out of it
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3302[21:00:03] <Orxata_> somiaj: I've already activated
support for legacy BIOS
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3303[21:00:12] <dstensnes> Nexiu: but i suppose some more info
about what kind of cloud computer you are talking about, or which
provider or anything like that
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3304[21:00:19] <dstensnes> would be nice
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3306[21:00:33] <Orxata_> my only option is to reinstall debian
again with a full DVD and use the ethernet cable
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3307[21:00:37] <Orxata_> ):
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3309[21:04:01] <BCMM> Nexiu: Cirrus Logic GD 5446 is an ancient
graphics card. 2d acell only i think
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3311[21:04:20] <BCMM> Nexiu: it's also a very popular
emulated graphics card
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3312[21:04:26] <BCMM> e.g. default GPU in qemu
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3313[21:04:43] <BCMM> so that's probably why you're
seeing it; there's no real graphics hardware present
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3320[21:06:35] <tdn> teraflops, how do I check video drivers?
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3321[21:06:47] <teraflops> tdn: xorg logs
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3322[21:07:04] <tdn> cruncher, sorry, I did answer, however, it
was with a huge delay because I had to leave suddenly
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3326[21:07:32] <tdn> cruncher, you asked if the VMs are
identically. Yes they are. Except for video RAM. The slow machine
has 64 MB and the fast one has 32 MB
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3327[21:07:33] <teraflops> on the guest, and check graphics
options in vbox settings I guess
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3329[21:08:04] <dstensnes> tdn: i would start by looking at
"free -m" output
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3331[21:08:18] <dstensnes> see what it reports under swap
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3332[21:08:30] <tdn> dstensnes, 0 swap, 6 GB free (not even
cached)
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3334[21:08:38] <tdn> dstensnes, it has plenty of RAM
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3336[21:08:41] <dstensnes> tdn: okay, that is good
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3337[21:09:00] <dstensnes> tdn: then try running some performance
tests maybe, to see where they differ
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3338[21:09:05] <dstensnes> sysbench has some i believe
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3341[21:10:52] <dstensnes> maybe that can give you some info
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3349[21:16:23] <tdn> dstensnes, sysbench results:
replaced-url
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3350[21:18:27] <tdn> petemc, atop says that CPU is ~100-150 %
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3351[21:18:30] <tdn> (2 cores)
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3355[21:19:30] <somiaj> Orxata_: the live images sometimes have
trouble installing grub. I always suggest an offical installer, you
can also just try to recover the install. If you want efi boot, you
need to boot in efi mode which the live images will not do.
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3357[21:20:32] <tdn> jhutchins_wk, plenty of RAM. No swap in use
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3358[21:20:45] <tdn> teraflops, what to look for in logs?
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3359[21:21:27] <teraflops> tdn: about the graphics driver in use?
on the guest?
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3360[21:22:16] <teraflops> dmesg and xorg logs
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3361[21:22:43] <tdn> teraflops, last lines
replaced-url
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3362[21:22:46] <Nexiu> Thanks for advice with use rdp, not vnc -
now genymotion launch but I get error that my openGL version (1.3)
is too old and they advice to update video drivers... so is no way
to bypass it, or I can update openGL?
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3364[21:22:57] <teraflops> in vobx side idk, but I barely
remember it used to have a 3d option
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3365[21:23:02] <teraflops> vbox
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3366[21:23:33] <Nexiu> and about cloud service: its "Public
Cloud" hosted by ovh
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3369[21:24:24] <tdn> teraflops, it has a 3d acceleration option.
Should I check that in the VM settings?
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3371[21:24:42] <teraflops> as I said idk about vbox
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3372[21:24:55] <teraflops> idk stands for I dont know
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3373[21:25:03] <tdn> OK
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3375[21:25:08] <tdn> idk that :)
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3376[21:25:11] <teraflops> xD
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3409[21:36:47] <AndChat182964> How to go out of tty
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3410[21:37:02] <chrisatmachine> dont't worry about it
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3412[21:37:15] <AndChat182964> I need to go back to gui
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3414[21:37:21] <chrisatmachine> idc
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3417[21:38:03] <dontknow> AndChat182964, have you tried
ctrl+alt+f2
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3418[21:38:10] <AndChat182964> Yes
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3419[21:38:16] <AndChat182964> It's showing tty2
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3420[21:38:17] <chrisatmachine> well your boned
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3421[21:38:20] <AndChat182964> Tty3
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3422[21:38:24] <AndChat182964> Etc...
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3423[21:38:54] <nvz> this is just a random curiousity but this
machine has a Core 2 Duo E8400 which supports hypertreading, and on
other machines I've used before the process monitors show these
as seperate cores and it can run double the threads. This machine is
only showing two CPU and two threads running at a given time. Is
there some way that perhaps hyperthreading is disabled?
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3425[21:39:40] <frostschutz> nvz, it doesn't support
hyperthreading
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3427[21:39:59] <nvz> /proc/cpuinfo says ht in the features
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3428[21:40:00] <chrisatmachine> it doesn't....
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3429[21:40:17] <verm1n>
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3430[21:40:40] <nvz> hmm.. I wonder why it says ht in the cpu
flags then
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3433[21:41:02] <petemc> tdn: if i see 100% cpu usage, and im not
running something that should be pegging the cpu, i consider that a
problem. what process uses most cpu ?
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3438[21:41:45] <verm1n> htt is the flag you should look for
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3439[21:41:48] <LtL> nvz: check your bios, most boards enable
hyper-threading by default but you can check
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3440[21:41:56] <AndChat182964> How to enter root from tty
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3441[21:42:02] <nvz> verm1n: ah. I thought ht was hyperthreading
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3443[21:42:13] <verm1n> htt in dmidecode at least
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3444[21:42:23] <LtL> AndChat182964: 'su -' enter root
pw
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3448[21:43:28] <nvz> as for the spiking cpu issue that seems to
be being discussed plain ol top shows cpu usage by category real
nice, which will let you know if its user, kernel, interrupts, etc,
and iostat will help run it down if its interrupts or something
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3452[21:44:51] <AndChat182964> LtL: not working
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3454[21:45:05] <nvz> I guess this must be one of the
older/cheaper Core2Duo processors then, cause my last machine was
one of those newest P4 775 sockets and even it had hyperthreading
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3455[21:45:22] <LtL> AndChat182964: how is it not working? whats
the error
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3456[21:45:43] <AndChat182964> No command su-
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3457[21:46:02] <LtL> AndChat182964: read 'su -' spaces
count
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3459[21:46:11] <AndChat182964> I tried su - too
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3460[21:46:27] <AndChat182964> Command not found
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3461[21:46:37] *** Quits: nvz (~roger@replaced-ip) (Changing host)
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3463[21:46:39] <LtL> AndChat182964: is root disabled, are you on
ubuntu?