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0 [00:00:42] <ee1> it stands empty lol
1 [00:00:49] <ee1> SOCK.pdf: empty
2 [00:00:54] <ee1> hae?
3 [00:01:42] <petn-randall> ee1: So your problem is that the
file is empty. You probably didn't get a PDF when you
downloaded it.
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5 [00:02:03] <petn-randall> Also meaning that it's
completely unrelated to the pdf viewer.
6 [00:02:43] <ee1> Ok, then I will give the man who sent it to
me alittle bit of spanking
7 [00:02:48] <ee1> Thank you petn
8 [00:03:24] <petn-randall> ee1: you're welcome
9 [00:03:31] <petn-randall> ee1: it's petn<tab>
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11 [00:04:05] <ee1> ^^
12 [00:04:16] <ee1> petn-randall: ^^
13 [00:04:52] <shtrb> If anyone is intersted the policy team is
talking at #rex at debconf17
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42 [00:28:01] <xormor>
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43 [00:28:11] <xormor> I think I am myself a geek, because I am
so social.
44 [00:28:32] <abrotman> xormor: try #debian-offtopic
45 [00:28:50] <xormor> abrotman, ok
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224 [02:05:48] <ee1> Hello boys. Can anyone tell me what the
difference is between using SSH and openVPN, or atleast give me a
guide that explains difference between them? Also, I just upgraded
from debian jessie to stretch and using openvpn seems to not work, i
lose internet connection while using the package openvpn. Thoughts
around this Ladies & Gentlemens?
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228 [02:10:06] <aexl> ssh is connecting directly to another
computer to control it. vpn is a tunnel to another computer to use
it's internet connection. iiuc
229 [02:10:47] <aexl> i also have many problems since upgrading
from jessie to stretch so it might not be you.
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238 [02:15:59] <ee1> So why would one want to use a proxy
together with SSH then?
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241 [02:18:01] <Brigo> ee1 proxy and ssh are different tools for
solving different problems.
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247 [02:20:10] <x|h> Fresh fish here having a hard time with
learning how to use certs. I
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250 [02:21:19] <x|h> I am trying to connect to hackint and
getting * Verify E: unable to get local issuer certificate.? (20)
251 [02:21:44] <x|h> I downloaded the two certs off of there page
but I think im missing something.
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253 [02:22:56] <aexl> x|h: connect? to hackint.com or what do you
mean?
254 [02:23:08] <x|h> Is there another way to activate the certs?
I thought I just had to DL them and select to allow every thing to
verify through them.
255 [02:23:16] <x|h> Sorry, no. their irc
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257 [02:23:22] <aexl> which client?
258 [02:23:29] <x|h> thanks for the quick response. hexchat
259 [02:23:58] <aexl> i use pidgin. i guess you want/need to use
ssl?
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261 [02:24:20] <x|h> Do the certs need to be in the client
somehow? I have to admit I am a level 0 in my cert knowledge.
262 [02:24:22] <x|h> I want to .
263 [02:24:36] <x|h> Should I use pidgin over hexchat?
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265 [02:24:42] <x|h> Even if not using otr?
266 [02:25:06] <aexl> pidgin just has an option for this
(tools>certificates>add). no idea what hexchat says.
267 [02:25:20] <x|h> So the certs need to be in the client?
268 [02:25:26] <aexl> there's no otr in pidgin or what do
you mean?
269 [02:25:33] <aexl> ... i guess.
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275 [02:29:40] <aexl> x|h: i just signed into irc.hackint.org
over ssl port 9999. pidgin asks me if i want to accept the
certificate. that's it.
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279 [02:31:18] <x|h> Hmmm... did you DL the certs from here?
280 [02:31:19] <x|h>
replaced-url
281 [02:31:33] <aexl> i didn't download anything. pidgin
just asked me.
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297 [02:44:49] <simbalion> There's a bunch of little games
installed like "Four-in-a-row" is there a way to uninstall
that stuff?
298 [02:45:04] <simbalion> I'm assuming they belong to some
collective package
299 [02:46:32] <saptech> gnome-games? maybe
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302 [02:48:49] <simbalion> Thanks I will try that :)
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305 [02:49:52] <simbalion> hrm I bet synaptic would speed this up
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341 [03:11:18] <max480p> i installed debian 9 on a Pentium IV 1
gig ram, i was told to install smtube to watch youtube videos since
watching them on firefox is dead slow. My question is how can i
configure smtube so that i can choose the resolution of them videos
before i actually watch them? Obviously, the maximun resolution I
want to watch youtube videos is 480p
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353 [03:17:55] <Artemis3> both smtube and smplayer have a setting
for that.
354 [03:18:46] <max480p> can you tell me what setting shall i
modify and how?
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363 [03:22:05] <max480p> Artemis3, moreover, have you modify
those settings yourself to achive what i want to achieve???
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367 [03:22:45] <jmcnaught> max480p: I don't know about
smtube, but youtube-dl has a man page. You can do 'youtube-dl
-F <URL TO VIDEO>' to see a list of formats available,
then us -f to select one for it to download (it explains this in
more detail in the man page)
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372 [03:25:14] <Artemis3> its in the menus settings or somewhere
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376 [03:26:16] <Artemis3> default is auto (likely 720p)
377 [03:26:30] <max480p> jmcnaught, youtube-dl is a command line
application i have used and i know the command syntax you mention
very well. However, my question is not about the command line but
about smtube, a gui application to watch (stream) youtube videos.
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410 [03:43:06] <jmcnaught> max480p: right on, so then you can use
mpv which has --ytdl-format as an option
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413 [03:44:48] <jmcnaught> i think there are also firefox add-ons
to play videos with mpv+youtube-dl instead of in the browser
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417 [03:50:19] <ac_slater> hey all. I've wondered this for
years. When I use pretty much any debian install, copying data to a
removable disk (USB) is "different" than whenever I use
arch/gentoo/LFS... Example, `cp` returns immediately in
arch/gentoo/LFS but blocks until blocks are synced in debian. Anyone
have any idea what does that?
418 [03:50:55] <ac_slater> It's nothing in `mount` options
at least...
419 [03:52:35] <petn-randall> ac_slater: I cannot relate, since
my USB thumb drives are always mounted async (the default).
420 [03:53:37] <ac_slater> petn-randall: as in, `cp` to the disk
lies to you and you have to run `sync` manually to ensure things are
written?
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422 [03:54:11] <ac_slater> I guess that's why I asked. I
don't change the mount options on removable volumes but I
always get the synchronous behaviour
423 [03:54:18] <petn-randall> ac_slater: It doesn't lie to
you, it just returns when it's in the kernel buffer.
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425 [03:54:48] <ac_slater> right
426 [03:54:54] <ac_slater> I know ;) I was being snarky
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428 [03:55:24] <petn-randall> ac_slater: If you want it to finish
only when its physically on the disk, you can set an option, and
then the tools calls fdatasync() to ensure there are no dirty
buffers left.
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432 [03:56:11] <ac_slater> that (mount) option you're
referring to is 'sync' ?
433 [03:56:43] <petn-randall> ac_slater: That would also work,
but that would cause *all* file operations to be written to disk
before returning.
434 [03:57:13] <petn-randall> ac_slater: dd for example has the
fdatasync option.
435 [03:57:19] <ac_slater> oh right. Thanks mate
436 [03:57:44] <ac_slater> I've always wondered what debian
did different than other distros... I've always observed that
synchronous behaviour
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438 [03:58:14] <ac_slater> wasnt sure if it was the DE I was
using (gnome, etc) or default mount options, or maybe something
completely different
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472 [04:33:40] <Linlz> Hello, Im having some trouble booting
after an update. When i try to use update-initramfs -u, i get this
error: cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for
luks-74157619-14c5-4137-90ee-939d849361da -. But my /etc/crypttab is
look like it should.
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477 [04:34:46] <petn-randall> Linlz: Can you paste the contents
of your /etc/crypttab to
replaced-url
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482 [04:37:46] <ee1> So, have anyone figured out a way to use
openvpn with debian stretch yet? I downloaded package openvpn, then
I write "openvpn --config /home/user/Downloads/file.ovpn
483 [04:37:46] <ee1> Everything goes great, I get the normal msg
that it's initialized but my internet breaks.. Ideas? Thougts?
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485 [04:38:48] <Linlz> petn-randall: im just getting Thanks to
some spammers you need to provide at least 2 linebreaks on that
site. But heres whats in it: sda6_crypt
UUID=74157619-14c5-4137-90ee-939d849361da none luks
486 [04:38:51] <ee1> If I try to run the openvpn inside a virtual
machine however, the internet does not break and it the vpn and
internet works inside it. hmm?
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494 [04:42:56] <tw> ee1: check your routes after the VPN is
online.
495 [04:44:07] <tw> usually breakage like that is caused by
routing problems. Compare it to what happens in the VM. `ip ro show`
on linux.
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498 [04:45:44] <ee1> tw: How do I check my routes?
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509 [04:52:17] <petn-randall> Linlz: Can you add the complete
error to the paste?
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511 [04:54:18] <AlexLikeRock> to paste ;
replaced-url
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518 [04:57:41] <Linlz> AlexLikeRock: Do i have to use that one? -
Because it says Thanks to some spammers you need to provide at least
2 linebreaks. When i try to paste anything. And ive tried with
<b> and <br> ?
519 [04:58:17] <petn-randall> Linlz: Add more than two lines. The
complete output of 'update-initramfs -u' and /etc/crypttab
should be enough.
520 [04:58:39] <tw> ee1: ip ro show is the command you should
use.
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527 [05:00:16] <Linlz>
replaced-url
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529 [05:01:25] <petn-randall> Linlz: Kali?
530 [05:01:48] <Linlz> Yes does that change anything?
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535 [05:03:20] <petn-randall> !kali
536 [05:03:20] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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538 [05:03:36] <petn-randall> Linlz: You can find their channel
above. ^^^
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541 [05:04:42] <Linlz> Alright i will try to ask there. This
channel is just soo much bigger. What if i try to install debian and
see if i get the same error. Can i get support then even if it was
created under kali ?
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546 [05:05:43] <tw> I doubt you can reproduce it in debian if you
set up cryptoroot with the installer.
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548 [05:06:45] <Linlz> Maybe not. Better go back to pure debian.
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550 [05:07:40] <petn-randall> Linlz: The problem is that Kali is
based off testing at *some* point in time. We won't be able to
reproduce the issue, and even if, it might be already fixed in
Debian. So there's little motivation for us to cater that bug.
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554 [05:08:20] <tw> It's rolling. there's no way of
knowing which package set you're based off of in the debian
timeline.
555 [05:08:26] <tw> Well, reasonably predicting.
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561 [05:12:24] <AlexLikeRock> capital "O"
562 [05:12:39] <AlexLikeRock> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda6 root
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566 [05:17:47] <uxfi> oh super cows
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582 [05:24:46] <tonymke> I must be dumb, but I cannot for the
life of me get pubkey auth working with stretch's new
sshd_config config
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585 [05:26:41] <tonymke>
replaced-url
586 [05:26:47] <tonymke> that's what it should be I think?
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589 [05:28:50] <jmcnaught> tonymke: key authentication works out
of the box with the sshd_config provided by the package
590 [05:29:02] <tonymke> weird. i am going insane then.
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592 [05:29:07] <tonymke> key is in the file
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594 [05:29:22] <jmcnaught> which key is in what file?
595 [05:29:40] <tonymke> my desktop's pubkey into the
server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
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597 [05:30:05] <tonymke> i just said fuck it and reverted back to
my prior config from backup
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599 [05:30:26] <jmcnaught> tonymke: comment out both of the
options in your gist
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603 [05:31:25] <jmcnaught> tonymke:
replaced-url
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605 [05:31:47] <jmcnaught> if you're still having trouble,
make a paste of yours
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608 [05:32:20] <tonymke> yeah no
609 [05:32:21] <tonymke> denied
610 [05:32:24] <tonymke> deleted
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619 [05:37:50] <tonymke> yeah pasting the default fails after
restarting the service
620 [05:38:40] <tonymke> does authorized_keys need some magic
permission?
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623 [05:39:53] <jmcnaught> tonymke: you took my sshd_config,
pasted it into yours, and not ssh.service fails to restart?
624 [05:40:06] <tonymke> it restarts fine just can't auth
625 [05:40:13] <tonymke> i think it's the key paste itself
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627 [05:40:21] <tonymke> in authorized_keys
628 [05:40:32] <jmcnaught> tonymke: you should look at
"journalctl -u ssh.service" and /var/log/auth.log on the
server, and use "ssh -v …" on the client
629 [05:40:34] <tonymke> rewriting it seems to have fixed it
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633 [05:42:25] <tonymke> guess my little "curl my pubkeys
from github" thing writes it in a way it doesn't like
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635 [05:43:10] <tonymke> well, thanks for your help
636 [05:43:11] <tonymke> <3
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642 [05:46:30] <elixir> Hey all. I am currently setting up a web
server that will be running Debian and am contemplating how I should
partition the servers 1 TB HDD. Is there any reason to stick with
the old, micro partitioning style (/boot, /var, /usr, etc.) or is it
more beneficial to use something like /boot, swap, / (rest of disk).
Thoughts?
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646 [05:49:13] <tw> I usually do /boot, swap, /, /srv, then
noexec,nodev,nosuid on /srv
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649 [05:50:29] <elixir> tw: And /srv is used for all server data?
650 [05:50:48] <tw> Generally speaking.
651 [05:51:01] <Rusty1_64> keeping /var separate is usually a
good idea in case logs get out of control
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667 [06:08:30] <Fa|ko> Hi
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669 [06:09:37] <Fa|ko> A question: is possible to use tomcat8
with openjdk-7 in stretch ?
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674 [06:12:23] <atralheaven_> Hi guys, I wanted to know which
version of KDE does debian 9 stable have? thanks
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682 [06:16:08] <elixir> atralheaven_: I see a kde-full package in
the repositories listed as version 5:92. (replaced-url
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784 [07:44:35] <Anonrate> Would unnoficial and non-free packages
be considered the same?
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794 [07:47:22] <jmcnaught> Anonrate: non-free is defined here:
replaced-url
795 [07:47:46] <Anonrate> Thank you kind person.
796 [07:49:33] <Anonrate> By unnoficial I mean I am given a link
for some firmware that is cdimage/unofficial/mom-free/firmware/...
Still from Debian, just not sure if it's "Official"
or "Unnoficial". I do know that it is
"Non-Free".
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801 [07:54:01] <jmcnaught> those aren't the official
installer images, but are provided as a convenience for users
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803 [07:54:59] <Anonrate> Thank you. That is just the answer I
was looking for. And how bad would it be if I upgraded the kernel in
Stretch and built the stable version of mesa?
804 [07:55:15] <jmcnaught> ,kernels
805 [07:55:16] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-2-686
(4.11.11-1+b1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch:
4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686
(4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae
806 [07:55:17] <judd> (3.2.89-2)
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808 [07:55:51] <jmcnaught> hmmm… stretch-backports
isn't listed there, but there's a newer kernel there if
you need it
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810 [07:57:00] <jim> probably themill has to do a little
tinkering to get stretch-backports
811 [07:57:24] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
812 [07:57:32] <Anonrate> It has beena long time since I've
seen that name. ('jim')
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815 [07:58:03] <jim> hmm, I've been around
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817 [07:58:14] <Anonrate> I know, I haven't though.
I've been gone for months.
818 [07:58:39] <jim> oh ok
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828 [08:07:17] <asarch> Where is 'npm' for Stretch?
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831 [08:09:16] <tw> re:npm #857986
832 [08:09:17] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
833 [08:09:40] <AciD`> asarch -> there I think "deb
replaced-url
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835 [08:10:02] <asarch> Thank you
836 [08:10:06] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
837 [08:10:30] <asarch> Thank you very much guys
838 [08:10:31] <AciD`> (was kidding, it's no npm, but yarn,
which is pretty good in itself and can replace npm)
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840 [08:10:55] <asarch> Ok :-P
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846 [08:12:54] <asarch> Thank you very much once again :-)
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918 [08:57:01] <mender27> I have a problem with a ZyDAS ZD1211B
wireless dongle on Debian 9.1. Immediately after authenticating, it
deauthenticates with "local choice (Reason:
2=DEAUTH_LEAVING)". What could be the reason?
919 [08:57:02] <fireba11> hi, i'm having some issues in a
debian9 VM (vmware 6.5) with the NIC. what type of NIC is
recommended to use? haven't found anything about that so far
...
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922 [08:59:10] <tapewormcommande> hi everyone, I'm having a
small issue with moving from stable to testing
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924 [08:59:29] <tapewormcommande> I installed stable, and since I
have a pretty new AMD RX560 (Polaris, which has support since kernel
4.9.5) thus I installed firmware-linux and clang-3.9+llvm-3.9. All
good, it works.
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929 [09:00:08] <tapewormcommande> However, I want to move to
testing, since a newer kernel might have better support for what I
want. Left only those 2 repos for testing, following the
documentation and ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade And
all ran fine, but no new kernel. So I ran apt-get dist-upgrade
930 [09:00:24] <tapewormcommande> And I got 4.11, but whenever I
try to boot it, or its recovery, I get a black screen.
931 [09:01:12] <tapewormcommande> so I ran 4.9, but sadly,
whenever 4.9 gets resource-intensive it breaks itself
932 [09:01:22] <tapewormcommande> any idea how I could fix this?
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939 [09:06:32] <mender27> tapewormcommande: what do you mean by
"breaks itself"? You get a kernel panic in the kernel
itself or the radeon kernel module triggers a kernel panic or what?
:)
940 [09:06:58] <tapewormcommande> it reboots the system
941 [09:07:22] <mender27> That's pretty weird...
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943 [09:08:13] <tapewormcommande> my SSD and HDD are OK, I have
12GiB of swap to my 8 GiB of RAM, / in EXT4 on my 256GiB SSD, /home
in EXT4 as well on my 1TB HDD
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948 [09:09:42] <mender27> That sounds perfectly fine. The
rebooting is somewhat strange, because after a kernel panic the
system should hang for a while at least.
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950 [09:10:25] <tapewormcommande> if "a while" means a
3-5 seconds, then yea, but that's about it
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956 [09:11:19] <tapewormcommande> I doubt it's my GPU since
everything worked mostly fine with openSUSE in the past few days
(except btrfs, but that could be my share of stupidity)
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958 [09:11:31] <tapewormcommande> so, I guess it might be my
motherboard :\
959 [09:11:59] <tapewormcommande> but then, I have UEFI disabled.
960 [09:12:04] <mender27> Can you try rebooting into
non-accelerated 2D mode with the radeon driver unloaded? That way we
can at least rule out the driver.
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962 [09:12:36] <jmcnaught> tapewormcommande: if you just need a
newer kernel then you can install one from stretch-backports
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964 [09:13:14] <tapewormcommande> mender27 you mean rebooting
into 4.9 recovery?
965 [09:13:52] <mender27> tapewormcommande: possibly yes.
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967 [09:14:03] <tapewormcommande> okay, I'll try
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969 [09:14:14] <mender27> tapewormcommande: I usually go down to
the console, kill X, disable the display manager and unload the
driver.
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972 [09:15:56] <tapewormcommande> mender27: lemme see how that
works...
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974 [09:17:53] <tapewormcommande> mender27: would uninstalling it
have the same effect?
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980 [09:21:13] <mender27> tapewormcommande: uninstalling what?
The Xorg driver for Radeon cards? I think yes. Then the display
manager would need to start in 2D mode without modesetting most
likely. At least that's how it works on openSUSE.
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983 [09:22:26] <CoderEurope> Does #debian have an offtopic
channel ?
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985 [09:22:46] <jmcnaught> CoderEurope: #debian-offtopic
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998 [09:28:04] <mender27> Is it possible that wpa_supplicant and
NetworkManager are in conflict when both are enabled as systemd
services?
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1007 [09:30:46] <tapewormcommande> mender27: funny story - not a
single mesa driver is installed
1008 [09:31:10] <mender27> tapewormcommande: that would probably
explain your problem :D.
1009 [09:31:22] <tapewormcommande> yea, awkward as hell
1010 [09:31:54] <mender27> I, meanwhile, am still combating my
ZyDAS wireless, which drops authentication :/.
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1016 [09:33:16] <jmcnaught> mender27: you could use journalctl to
see logs from anything involving /sbin/wpa_supplicant or the
NetworkManager.service unit: 'journalctl
_SYSTEMD_UNIT=NetworkManager.service +
_EXE=/sbin/wpa_supplicant'
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1018 [09:33:34] <mender27> jmcnaught: thanks a bunch. I'll do
that :).
1019 [09:34:10] <jmcnaught> mender27: i would also check
'journalctl | grep -i firmware' to see if any firmware
fails to load
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1021 [09:34:27] <mender27> jmcnaught: dmesg claims that the
firmware is loaded fine.
1022 [09:34:28] <jak2020>
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1023 [09:35:02] <tapewormcommande> mender27: with regards to that,
I don't have the slightest idea. I had some network issues
whilst I had UEFI enabled, but that's about it
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1027 [09:35:55] <jmcnaught> jak2020: '/msg dpkg bat'
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1035 [09:39:22] <mender27> jmcnaught: neither NetworkManager nor
wpa_supplicant seem to be picking up any errors, but I'll try
to start a wireless connection and "tail" journalctl in
real-time.
1036 [09:39:37] <jmcnaught> mender27: journalctl -f
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1045 [09:44:14] <mender27> jmcnaught: so journalctl offered some
extra information, but each time it's a different disconnection
reason. So far I had "disconnected (reason
'none')", reason 'ssid-not-found' and now
'reason -3'
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1051 [09:46:25] <mender27> jmcnaught: though I noticed that I
accidentally gave this box a hostname that's already used in
the local network by another PC that's connected already :/.
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1058 [09:49:45] <mender27> Same issue. Random reasons and not
being able to connect even to a guest network.
1059 [09:50:32] <jmcnaught> mender27: I don't know where
NetworkManager's error codes are documented, but I would search
for those reasons starting with -3. Good luck, gotta go âș
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1061 [09:50:44] <mender27> jmcnaught: thanks a lot :).
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1080 [09:59:55] <Natrick> Hi. On Linux, the set of file
descriptors open in a process can be accessed under the path
/proc/PID/fd/, where PID is the process identifier. (-- Wikipedia)
If that's true, is it also true that file descriptors are being
closed automatically if the process is closed?
1081 [10:00:23] <nvz> Natrick: yes
1082 [10:00:45] <Natrick> So, everything is cleaned up properly?
1083 [10:00:58] <mender27> In a perfect scenario, yes.
1084 [10:01:32] <Natrick> Open (or unproperly closed) file
descriptors are only an issue for open processes, not closed ones?
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1087 [10:02:27] <jak2020> jmcnaught: in my case: apt-cache policy
submin2-core submin2-svn submin2-git submin2-trac ?
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1101 [10:06:50] <nvz> Natrick: a closed process can't exactly
have open files what is it you're trying to figure out here,
and what does it have to do with debian?
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1107 [10:08:00] <Guest4845> i need a new OS and its between fedora
and debian...
1108 [10:08:07] <Guest4845> your thoughts interest me
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1120 [10:10:38] <babilen> Guest4845: Try both, choose the one you
like more
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1122 [10:11:33] <CDuv> Hello, I recently upgraded a Debian 8 (with
PHP 5.6) to Debian 9 and got both PHP 5.6 and 7.0 version (both
versions for CLI, and 5.6 only Apache module): is that normal? I
mean I thought it would have removed any PHP 5.6 and installed PHP
7.0 instead. Thanks
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1126 [10:16:07] <mender27> So apparently I was hit by a
NetworkManager bug with some old 802.11g USB wireless adapters.
Thanks for help everyone :)
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1149 [10:30:18] <Aebian> Hi, I have a linux system on our VMware
vCloud. I got 4 "hard disks" each 20GB and I want to
extend one specific. Problem is that BUS Number is 0 and I only got
Unit numbers. Is there a way to find the specific drive then? I
already tried 'lsblk' but that does not really help
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1157 [10:34:01] <Natrick> nvz, it does not have anything todo with
Debian exactly, but Linux. And I made very good experiences with the
people of this channel (which you have also confirmed today)
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1163 [10:35:02] <aexl_zZz> Aebian: is the linux system installed
on any of these hard disks? have you tried /sbin/blkid?
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1167 [10:36:16] <Natrick> nvz, the initial problem is related to a
discussion I have with someone about the use of inotify and Python.
They guy claims that it's necessary to close file descriptors
and it's hard to do so in that scenario. The FDs are open all
the time (inotify) and are not closed while the application runs.
Because it's a wgsi process it's more difficult to
register signals (by default prevented by wsgi) but I think
it's just not necessary to take
1168 [10:36:16] <Natrick> care of that and worked on my
understanding of FDs
1169 [10:36:32] <nvz> Natrick: yes well, freenode is a great place
but we need to try keep on topic in high volume channels like this,
your inquiries are for ##linux or most of us regulars in #debian
hang out in #debian-offtopic which is our social channel. This
channel is for debian support and its rude to just use this channel
for other things when people are trying to get help with debian
issues
1170 [10:37:24] <Natrick> Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude.
Thanks for the hints to the other channels, I'm going to use
them in the future
1171 [10:37:38] <Aebian> aexl_zZz: hmm yes I get uuid with that
command
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1177 [10:38:47] <tnorth> hey there
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1184 [10:40:47] <pseupedia> Hello
1185 [10:40:49] <pseupedia> I have http_access allow localnet in
my sqid.conf, but for some reason, when visiting http sites, i get
an access denied error. why?
1186 [10:41:04] <pseupedia> i am using squid
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1190 [10:42:02] <titikaka> hey
1191 [10:42:09] <pseupedia> hey
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1193 [10:42:17] <pseupedia> titikaka: could you help me?
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1198 [10:43:44] <tnorth> Running debian 9.1, I have a weird
behavior on a NFS4 mount: ls /mnt/foo/ correctly lists all files.
However, cat /mnt/foo/bar says: cat: /mnt/foo/bar: connection timed
out. How is that possible? listing everything (ls -lR) works
perfectly. Only opening files doesnt.
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1207 [10:46:24] <aexl> pseupedia: have you tried asking at #squid?
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1209 [10:46:54] <pseupedia> aexl: yes, no help there ... and i
need fast help that is the problem
1210 [10:46:57] <aexl> tnorth: have you tried asking at #nfs?
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1213 [10:47:22] <aexl> pseupedia: has it ever worked?
1214 [10:47:34] <aexl> i mean surfing with squid?
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1219 [10:48:17] <pseupedia> aexl: it works for ssl pages when
i've enabled ssl filtering, and the problem: i have one server
where it works also for http, but i can't find the differences
in configuration between them ...
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1221 [10:48:38] <tnorth> @aexl: not yet, wanted to know if that
was known here. I'll ping there, thanks!
1222 [10:48:57] <aexl> tnorth: or even try ##linux
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1225 [10:49:27] <tnorth> aexl: thanks :)
1226 [10:49:31] <pseupedia> aexl: can you help me? i need to get
it working now ...
1227 [10:50:01] <aexl> pseupedia: nope sorry
1228 [10:50:18] <pseupedia> mhh
1229 [10:50:32] <aexl> although many people chatting is fast irc
isn't
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1231 [10:51:20] <aexl> +think
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1238 [10:53:45] <aexl> tnorth: yw. didn't do a thing. :)
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1370 [12:03:58] <Alver> Hi. I'm having issues with a freshly
installed debian 9: on one machine, static ipv6 activation goes
wrong, services fail to start and no default route is added.
1371 [12:04:29] <Alver> The config is dead simple - iface ens192
inet6 static, address foo:bar::bla/80, gateway foo:bar::1
1372 [12:04:54] <zOthix> [ sed -e 's/72;/72, next_val =
0x11111111;/;/@/{h;s/test/next/g;x;G}' fmt_vuln.c >
fmt_vuln2.c ] i can understand it till [ sed -e 's/72;/72,
next_val = 0x11111111;/ ] how does the rest of scrip works ?
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1385 [12:10:51] <Alver> For a short time, a strange
"default" gateway appears: default via
fe80::20c:29ff:fe8e:fb41 dev ens192 proto ra metric 1024 expires
20sec hoplimit 64 pref medium
1386 [12:11:07] <Alver> That's obviously not the one I
configured - can't see anything in syslog either.
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1392 [12:14:41] <format_c> Alver: I think this is automatically
configured via SLAAC
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1394 [12:16:38] <format_c> Alver: btw is your netmask really
correct?
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1399 [12:18:14] <format_c> check
replaced-url
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1423 [12:28:46] <Fa|ko> question: is possible to use tomcat8 with
openjdk-7 in stretch ?
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1432 [12:34:39] <Henry151> good morning #debian :) I am a proud
new user of Debian 9; having finally stopped using Kali as my
desktop OS and installed Debian on my laptop :)
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1436 [12:36:57] <format_c> Henry151: welcome
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1438 [12:37:16] <Henry151> I'm using xfce. I want to know,
what is the recommended method for changing the configuration of my
mobile broadband/3G connection? It appears in my network-manager
applet, that is, if I press the little network icon next to my
username in the upper-right corner of the screen, I have an option
"Mobile Broadband" that sees an available "Home
Network (CDMA)" and I initially configured it to have a
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1440 [12:37:22] <Henry151> connection named Verizon. I want to
confirm/edit the configuration for the Verizon connection, to make
sure I've got the right username/password, because it
doesn't seem to want to connect.
1441 [12:37:26] <Henry151> format_c: thanks :)
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1445 [12:38:18] <Henry151> woops I just found it--right click,
"edit connections" :D nevermind
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1447 [12:39:14] <format_c> Henry151: Right. If you want to
configure a interface using the traditional way using the
"interfaces" file, you need to excempt this interface then
in NetworkManager that it doesn't take care of.
1448 [12:39:30] <format_c> But if you're lucky with
NetworkManager, you're fine.
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1450 [12:40:29] <Henry151> yeah I think I was using gnome
previously, and had a "edit connections" button in the
drop-down menu, instead of having to right-click, that's why I
was missing it
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1455 [12:43:50] <format_c> yes meanwhile XCFE and Gnome GUI
concepts significantly differs.
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1494 [13:05:52] <tdn> I have two external USB HDDs that shows up
in /dev/disk/by-id with their "logical" name like
"ata-d2_Quadra_v3C_XXXXXX" or
"usb-WD_My_Book_1140_XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX". But there are no
World Wide Name entry for these in /dev/disk/by-id like:
wwn-0x50000fffffffffff. However smartctl reports that at least one
of the disks have a WWN. So why is this not created in /dev? Any way
to force the creation of this? Or can I t
1495 [13:05:58] <tdn> rust the ata-d2_Quadra_v3C_XXXXXX type names
to be consistent as I remove or plug in the disk. Across reboots and
on various hosts?
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1506 [13:13:24] <debo> hi guys, i upgraded to debian buster and
have been unable to install a useable nvidia driver for this kerenel
1507 [13:13:37] <debo> i am using vesa now but resolution is too
low, nouveau is not working well for me either
1508 [13:14:11] <debo> when i try to install nvidia driver from
source it tells me that my version of gcc is different from the
version used to compile the kernel
1509 [13:14:43] <debo> should I install the old version of gcc or
compile the kernel with the new gcc?
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1511 [13:15:01] <debo> doing either would be new for me...
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1517 [13:20:15] <debo> product: G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]
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1522 [13:21:41] <Sveta> how do enable php with thread safety? the
web says, need to recompile php with --enable-maintainer-zts
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1528 [13:25:15] <Alver> format_c: the netmask is correct, yes.
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1531 [13:25:50] <Alver> format_c: and that is pretty much what I
have - the IP doesn't get added right away it seems, after
which nginx e.g. fails (because it's set to listen to that ipv6
IP), and while the IP does get added somewhere later, the route
never is
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1533 [13:26:28] <Alver> I could add the whole shebang in a post-up
hook for ipv4, but I don't get why this would happen in the
first place
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1537 [13:28:28] <format_c> Alver: your notation 2001:db8::1/64
differs from what the Wiki says
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1539 [13:28:53] <format_c> Wiki says address 2001:db8::1\n netmask
64
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1545 [13:30:24] <format_c> Of course if the IPv6 address
isn't applied, services cannot listen on it. However, normally
services listen to :: instead of explicitely configured IP
addresses.
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1571 [13:46:49] <Alver> format_c: I tried both; both have the same
result (I tried this syntax because I saw it in some debian related
mailinglists)
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1574 [13:47:34] <Alver> format_c: I suppose I could tell nginx to
listed to everything, but... why, still :)
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1581 [13:48:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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1585 [13:50:31] <Alver> format_c: and even if that stops nginx
from failing - I still don't have a default ipv6 route :/
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1594 [13:53:00] <abrotman> Alver: You're using fixed IPs?
What is your interfaces file?
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1596 [13:53:58] <Alver> abrotman: iface ens192 inet6 static,
address foo:bar::bla/80, gateway foo:bar::1
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1598 [13:54:11] <abrotman> pastebin please, with actual values.
1599 [13:54:12] <Alver> abrotman: I tried with a separate gateway
line too (both should work) but same result.
1600 [13:54:21] <abrotman> it's going to be a public website,
your IP won't be "private" much longer
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1604 [13:56:23] <Alver> abrotman: I guess you're right about
that.
replaced-url
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1612 [14:00:59] <Alver> abrotman: the most boggling thing is that
the exact same config (but with different last octet, obviously)
works fine on multiple other VMs
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1618 [14:03:19] <abrotman> Alver: does the address even come
online? (in ip addr show, etc)
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1621 [14:04:02] <Alver> abrotman: yes, the address itself comes
online, but only after various services have failed on it (nginx,
ntpd). The route never does.
1622 [14:04:37] <abrotman> tried adding the route manually? can
you ping the next hop (the gateway)?
1623 [14:04:46] <Alver> Yes, if I add it manually everything works
as expected
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1626 [14:05:01] <Alver> I can ping the next hop and anything on
the internet
1627 [14:05:32] <Alver> Services also work from the internet over
the allowed ports in the firewall
1628 [14:06:15] <Alver> I'm fairly confident that I can
remove the inet6 section entirely and make it work with two post-up
hooks for ipv4, but that's nasty and not the way it should be
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1630 [14:07:36] <abrotman> Why does dmesg say that the interface
won't come up?
1631 [14:07:42] <abrotman> (anything useful in the logs?)
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1639 [14:11:40] <Alver> abrotman: nothing in dmesg except this
(much later): TCP: ens192: Driver has suspect GRO implementation,
TCP performance may be compromised.
1640 [14:11:54] <Alver> But I get that on the other VMs too, and
according to what I've read it's harmless
1641 [14:12:16] <abrotman> so it just fails to come online without
notice?
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1644 [14:14:15] <Alver> abrotman: Aug 7 12:12:06 mail sh[511]:
RTNETLINK answers: File exists
1645 [14:14:15] <Alver> Aug 7 12:12:06 mail sh[511]: ifup: failed
to bring up ens192
1646 [14:14:28] <Alver> Sorry for the two lines. But that's
the only relevant thing I can see.
1647 [14:15:16] <abrotman> (not for nothing, IPv6 for inbound
email is a different beast)
1648 [14:15:19] <Alver> Plus everything after it, of course -
systemd[1]: ifup@ens192.service: Main process exited, code=exited,
status=1/FAILURE, and then the services that start complaining.
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1651 [14:16:50] <Alver> abrotman: uhuh, mailservers on ipv6 seem
to be... interesting. But that's unrelated here I hope ;)
1652 [14:16:51] <abrotman> Alver: that tends to happens when you
ahve the gateway defined twice AFAICT.
1653 [14:17:27] <abrotman> Alver: If you have questions about that
topic, PM me. Back to the IPv6 route issue.
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1656 [14:18:20] <abrotman> Alver: So, obviously you need to have
the gateway defined for the IPv6 interface, but you could give the
IPv6 interface a different/virtual name
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1658 [14:19:11] <Alver> Well, it is only defined once,
obviously... hmm. A different name - like ens192.1 or alike?
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1660 [14:19:27] <abrotman> Alver: the other bit I see is to set
the accept_ra=0 via the interfaces file or sysctl
1661 [14:19:50] <Alver> Ah - I didn't think of that
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1666 [14:20:29] <abrotman> Not sure if your provider does RAs, but
if the interface is looking for them, it could be fouling things up
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1672 [14:22:06] <Alver> abrotman: net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra=0 in
a .conf in /etc/sysctl.d/ should do then, I suppose? Or do I need to
specify it for the interface again
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1677 [14:23:42] <Alver> abrotman: hm, actually, it's already
disabled apparently: net.ipv6.conf.ens192.accept_ra = 0, according
to sysctl
1678 [14:23:44] <abrotman> Alver: seems that should work. I think
my preference would be in the interfaces file so it's more
obvious, but admins do things a millino ways
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1688 [14:29:27] <bitlan> hello, how i can, clear NIC counters
without unplugg NIC ?
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1694 [14:31:40] <abrotman> bitlan: you mean the RX and TX values
for example?
1695 [14:32:02] <bitlan> yep
1696 [14:32:17] <bitlan> i have issuse between cisco nexus 3000
<-> debian
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1698 [14:32:34] <bitlan> i have 2x 10G bonding between this
devices
1699 [14:32:49] <bitlan> and i don't know why i have "RX
Paused" on my nexus
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1701 [14:34:01] <abrotman> bitlan: man ip-tcp_metrics .. maybe?
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1704 [14:35:10] <format_c> abrotman: on my machine the same
interface name for inet and inet6 section works (Jessie)
1705 [14:35:28] <abrotman> format_c: yes, I know, I was just
offering it as an option
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1708 [14:36:01] <abrotman> but it really seems like if he comments
out the gateway, it wouldn't have that error, but that's
not the real solution
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1710 [14:37:46] <Alver> abrotman, format_c: small update:
disabling accept_ra *does* make a difference, but not reliably
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1713 [14:38:13] <abrotman> pfft, who needs reliable ..
1714 [14:38:34] <abrotman> Alver: disabling it where? via
interfaces file or via sysctl?
1715 [14:38:42] <abrotman> is there anything in your interfaces.d
directory?
1716 [14:38:49] <Alver> Aha, if I disable autoconf and accept_ra
for all, default AND the specific interface, via sysctl, it does
work
1717 [14:39:06] <abrotman> is that all?
1718 [14:39:07] <Alver> If I change anything to that combo - not
specifying explicitly for ens192, or doing that in interfaces - it
fails again
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1720 [14:39:32] <abrotman> I wonder if you you change hotplug to
auto if it might make a difference
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1722 [14:39:55] <abrotman> (I can't imagine why, but might be
worth trying)
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1725 [14:41:00] <Alver> Hm, worth a try. I've rebooted two
dozen times already, once more won't hurt
1726 [14:41:23] <Alver> ... huh. It actually does.
1727 [14:41:44] <tremolo> hurt?
1728 [14:41:55] <Alver> Haha. No, it makes a difference.
1729 [14:42:00] <tremolo> ah
1730 [14:42:09] <Alver> allow-hotplug causes issues unless I
specify a boatload of sysctl stuff.
1731 [14:42:17] <Alver> auto just... works. As far as I can tell
so far.
1732 [14:42:42] <format_c> abrotman: Alver: yes, omit hotplug but
state "auto ens192" above the inet section. Here's my
interfaces as a reference:
1733 [14:42:46] <format_c>
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1736 [14:43:04] <abrotman> Alver: so all good?
1737 [14:43:11] <Alver> abrotman: looks like it, yep. Thanks.
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1739 [14:43:34] <Alver> Guess I'll run a script to verify all
machines are on auto instead of allow-hotplug from now on.
1740 [14:44:01] <abrotman> "That was easy" - Staples
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1743 [14:44:49] <Alver> Heh.
1744 [14:45:10] <Alver> Strange though. All the machines I've
checked so far have allow-hotplug, and only that one barfed on it
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1746 [14:46:35] <abrotman> Alver: might be something about
different services running on that specific system
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1748 [14:46:48] <Alver> abrotman: but if you have experiences to
share about running a mail server on ipv6, I'm also interested
- could save me headaches later too.
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1750 [14:47:24] <abrotman> Alver: PM if you'd like, not
really a topic for this channel
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1752 [14:47:53] <format_c> I'm running exim4 on dual stack.
Cannot remember of any IPv6 specific issues.
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1756 [14:50:03] <ksk> hola. I thought "+S" was the
sticky but, but reading "man chattr" It says something
about writing things to a disk - am I doing it wrong?
1757 [14:50:30] <abrotman> format_c: I may be a different size
target than you :)
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1759 [14:51:42] <format_c> probably.
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1775 [14:59:05] <asdqweqwdqdeqweq> hi :D
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1781 [15:00:05] <Alver> Right, auto-hotplug has been replaced all
over. Thanks a lot abrotman. Off to move more stuff now.
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1783 [15:00:13] <abrotman> enjoy
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1811 [15:23:55] <mallxs> i suddenly have a + in my file
permissions (=ACLs) but i don't have setfattr or getfattr
installed on my system ! how did it get there and how do i drop that
?
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1815 [15:28:32] <grift> mallxs look for setfacl/getfacl,
setfattr/getattr is for . instead of + i believe
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1820 [15:30:52] <mallxs> grift: thx
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1827 [15:34:26] <tw> . is for security context. setfattr
doesn't show up in ls as far as I can tell.
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1829 [15:36:06] <tw> for example
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1832 [15:36:53] <dokma> Is there a way to tell the filesystem to
append file to another without reading or writing the data, i.e. by
just attaching the inodes to the other file?
1833 [15:37:17] <jolt> cat foo >> foobar?
1834 [15:37:18] <dokma> I have many 1TB files that I need to merge
and I'd appreciate if I could use a trick to do it.
1835 [15:37:29] <dokma> jolt: that does the reading and writing.
1836 [15:37:37] <jolt> ah, sorry
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1838 [15:38:36] <dokma> If the tool does not exist I might just go
and write it myself.
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1840 [15:38:50] <jolt> dokma: Stackoverflow says that it is only
theoretically possible and suggest ">>". I've
never heard of anything around that.
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1841 [15:39:25] <dokma> I already used >> with pv. Takes
ages.
1842 [15:40:05] <jolt> dokma: maybe with fseek and a sparse file,
but you still need the reading I guess.
1843 [15:40:15] <tw> it'll be filesystem specific. There
aren't ioctls I'm aware of for that.
1844 [15:40:29] <dokma> I thought so too...
1845 [15:40:38] <dokma> It must be filesystem specific.
1846 [15:40:41] <tw> basically you're trying to emplace one
file at the end of the other destroying the original.
1847 [15:40:52] <tw> (both originals)
1848 [15:41:04] <dokma> exactly
1849 [15:41:20] <dokma> So my thought was why read or write
anything.
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1851 [15:41:33] <dokma> All that needs to be done is to reconnect
the inodes to the other file.
1852 [15:41:39] <tw> It should be possible, but getting all the
nuance correct for whichever filesystem you're already on may
be a pain in the as.
1853 [15:41:54] <dokma> Unfortunately, that was my thought also.
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1855 [15:42:29] <tw> I'd script the copy automatically now,
and see how long it takes you to write the tool.
1856 [15:42:46] <tw> One of 'em is going to win =p
1857 [15:42:49] <dokma> script the copy?
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1859 [15:43:01] <dokma> Oh... I already scripte the copy
1860 [15:43:17] <dokma> Using pv plot2 >> plot1
1861 [15:43:27] <tw> Perfect, you have until it finishes to write
a better tool ;)
1862 [15:43:45] <dokma> Works as intended but it blocks my system
for days.
1863 [15:43:58] <dokma> And I have to repeat it for about 10 8TB
disks.
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1865 [15:44:36] <tw> Can't your data reader take multiple
files as input? Do you actually need to merge them?
1866 [15:44:38] <dokma> Disks are archive versions so not to fast
on my e8500 SATAII system.
1867 [15:45:14] <mallxs> grift: i could remove the + sign with
setfacl -bn .... still wandering how it got there
1868 [15:45:16] <dokma> The miner for some reason reads them quite
a lot faster when merged.
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1871 [15:46:48] <dokma> I'm thinking that I actually might
have more luck trying to redirect the output of the plotter to be
appended to the previous plot immediately.
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1875 [15:48:40] <dokma> The plotter does not take the name of the
output file but I might be able to woodoo my way around it and get
is to somehow write into a <(pv >> plot1)
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1882 [15:50:15] <grift> mallxs, yes process do stuff on your
behalf, if you want some control over that then configure a
mandatory access control framework
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1884 [15:52:00] <dokma> I think I'll have to hack the plotter
code a bit...
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1893 [15:55:45] <_Strix_> guys need some help here.
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1896 [15:56:13] <jolt> _Strix_: Easier to help you if we know the
question
1897 [15:56:20] <_Strix_> I'm having trouble configuring
BitchX
1898 [15:56:27] <_Strix_> root@strix:~/BitchX1.2# ./configure
1899 [15:56:47] <_Strix_> what should I do?
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1906 [15:58:04] <jolt> _Strix_: I'm pretty sure that's
not really a debian problem. Run something modern, like irssi?
1907 [15:58:05] <format_c> _Strix_: besides having the
build-essential package; I'd guess reading the README and
INSTALL file.
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1909 [15:58:32] <jolt> but format_c was more on point
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1911 [15:59:23] <_Strix_> I could easily install it on my other
machine.
1912 [15:59:44] <format_c> nopaste the output
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1916 [16:00:20] <_Strix_> It was the output when I tried to
configure it.
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1919 [16:01:20] <jolt> _Strix_: Did you install build-essential
like format_c told ya?
1920 [16:02:02] <_Strix_> I didn't install anything else.
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1956 [16:16:50] <netherworld> Is there a server to play SNES games
online?
1957 [16:17:32] <netherworld> I would provide the server and the
games and people would to connect to it and play together with other
people.
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1987 [16:32:48] <_sfiguser> hello guys... is there a book/course
which can teach me to do things like these...
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1988 [16:33:14] <johnkeates> just read the source code
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1991 [16:34:45] <_sfiguser> johnkeates, i'm not so skilled
buddy
1992 [16:35:01] <johnkeates> well, that's how you get the
skills
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1995 [16:35:27] <johnkeates> between programming anything like a
web server or emulator or hypervisor and where you are now, there is
going to be at least 5 years of work
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1997 [16:36:09] <johnkeates> unless you are special and faster
then everybody ever
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2004 [16:38:12] <johnkeates> you may want to start some place
simple like a basic hello world program in C, and in Python and
maybe Java
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2006 [16:38:37] <greycat> Well, if you're interested in
complex internal stuff, C is the language of choice.
2007 [16:38:39] <johnkeates> and then back to basics and get
design patterns, algorithms
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2010 [16:39:08] <johnkeates> then to software engineering like
development life cycle and design-plan-test-release type of working
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2012 [16:39:37] <johnkeates> and then you'll need to get to
know the tools, not just the ones you like, but also the ones in
use, i.e. autotools, cmake, waf
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2014 [16:39:46] <johnkeates> and llvm+clan and gcc
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2016 [16:40:46] <johnkeates> and then you'll need to learn
things like the standard libraries, a whole different thing, and
extra libraries
2017 [16:40:53] <johnkeates> and documenting stuff
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2019 [16:41:21] <johnkeates> because if you are going to read code
from 5 years ago, you won't know what the hell is was what you
were thinking
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2043 [16:50:57] <Orbstheorem>
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2046 [16:52:05] <Orbstheorem> Is there any tool on linux to do
error correction encoding/decoding?
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2049 [16:53:58] <greycat> That's more of a programming
language question. There may be libraries for it in various popular
languages. At the Debian level, we usually just rely on TCP's
builtin checksums for error detection when transferring files.
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2052 [16:55:43] <Orbstheorem> greycat: Yeah, I know I could code
my own thing, but I was curious id such tools exist already
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2056 [16:56:11] <greycat> The only place I've ever seen/heard
it implemented is inside Freenet.
2057 [16:56:13] <Orbstheorem> Ie. I reciently noticed that bzip2
implements burrows-wheeler
2058 [16:56:16] <GNU\colossus> Orbstheorem, for that kind of data?
files?
2059 [16:56:46] <Orbstheorem> piped data
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2061 [16:56:51] <Orbstheorem> (Binary)
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2063 [16:57:29] <GNU\colossus> so you want to encapsulate your
data flow into a transparent protocol that handles error correction
for you?
2064 [16:58:07] <Orbstheorem> Yep
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2066 [16:59:05] <GNU\colossus> what's the specific use case?
don't you trust the error correction (detect & resend)
capabilities of TCP?
2067 [16:59:09] <Orbstheorem> like socat going through openssl for
encryption
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2070 [16:59:19] <GNU\colossus> yeah, that'd be my first
suggestion
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2074 [17:01:42] <Orbstheorem> I don't have a well established
use case. I want to stream data through an UART port, so I wanted to
see if I should do everything by my own or there was already an
existing solution
2075 [17:02:17] <GNU\colossus>
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2082 [17:05:08] <Orbstheorem> (socat should definitively an a fec
module :P)
2083 [17:05:23] <pie3> which distributed services you know
about/use/heard ? e.g. SVN is distributed
2084 [17:05:25] <Orbstheorem> s/an/add/
2085 [17:05:27] <GNU\colossus> yeah, that'd be awesome ;)
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2088 [17:05:46] <tw> why? tcp resend is basically guaranteed to
work.
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2092 [17:06:26] <GNU\colossus> tw, well, TCP checksums fail to
detect errors every once in a few billion segments
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2094 [17:06:50] <GNU\colossus> this.englishify()
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2097 [17:07:05] <jelly> one way pipe, no defined handshake or
block protocol? How does the endpoint know whether the stream is
finished or merely paused?
2098 [17:07:15] <tw> That's okay, run data authentication.
Things like reed solomon are expensive.
2099 [17:07:48] <jelly> no ssh for a serial line
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2104 [17:08:29] <Orbstheorem> jelly you can always use flow
control. I mean if socat manages to negociate an ssl connection,
I'm petty sure there's a decent way to
'negociate' an fec link
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2107 [17:09:17] <jelly> socat has a LOT of features
2108 [17:09:29] <Orbstheorem> Btw, does mosh implement its own
error tldetection or just crosses its fingers?
2109 [17:10:03] <Orbstheorem> socat <3
2110 [17:10:06] <tw> It prevents replay and the packets are
authenticated using dtls.
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2112 [17:10:19] <tw> so yes, it does basic error detection.
2113 [17:10:55] <jelly> I'd call that packet drop/loss
management, not error detection :-)
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2117 [17:11:43] <tw> well, packet replay is a fairly significant
concern. You could use it to resend keystrokes if it wasn't
handled correctly.
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2121 [17:13:12] <jelly> and packet duplication sometimes happens
on its own due to network issues, without any intentional replay
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2207 [17:53:56] <Meerkat> Hamm in Toy story is a pig. I found that
hilarious.
2208 [17:54:38] <Meerkat> There aren't that many names left
from the movies to use, it seems. Is there a plan for when they run
out?
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2210 [17:54:58] <Guest75145> Hi all! I installed Debian 9 minimal
and in preferences i can't find
"software&updates" item. Where i can install this
item?
2211 [17:55:33] <greycat> This is not sounding minimal to me.
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2214 [17:55:58] <greycat> What program is "preferences"
inside of?
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2217 [17:56:29] <Meerkat> software & updates is in the menu of
synaptic AFAIK.
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2221 [17:57:20] <jelly> Meerkat:
replaced-url
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2226 [18:01:30] <Meerkat> Guest75145, software-properties-gtk is
the name of the package
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2228 [18:02:33] <greycat> On a "minimal" installation I
wouldn't expect synaptic to exist at all. I just use apt-get
and apt-cache.
2229 [18:02:40] <Guest75145> <Meerkat>, thank you!!
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2232 [18:03:05] <Meerkat> jelly, I see. I had a bad source then.
It did not list that many characters
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2255 [18:10:09] <littlekitty> what vnc tools are there for linux?
2256 [18:10:18] <littlekitty> like what are the most common in
use?
2257 [18:10:41] <jelly> there's a number of vnc clients and
vnc servers. What are you after.
2258 [18:10:47] <littlekitty> im using a pre installed linux and i
have issues with it's vnc server but i have no clue how to
config it because i dont even know the name
2259 [18:11:08] <jelly> is it a debian installation
2260 [18:11:47] <littlekitty> yes
2261 [18:11:53] <jelly> might be: vino - VNC server for GNOME
2262 [18:11:57] <jelly> ,i vino
2263 [18:11:58] <judd> Package vino (gnome, optional) in
stretch/amd64: VNC server for GNOME. Version: 3.22.0-1; Size:
403.2k; Installed: 2256k; Homepage:
replaced-url
2264 [18:12:21] <littlekitty> No command 'vino' found,
did you mean:
2265 [18:12:42] <jelly> littlekitty: what does "lsb_release
-sc" say?
2266 [18:12:58] <littlekitty> xenial
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2268 [18:13:29] <jelly> littlekitty: that means you're on
Ubuntu 16.04 (codename xenial) or a close derivative of that
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2270 [18:13:41] <littlekitty> ohhh okay
2271 [18:13:45] <littlekitty> I'm sorry
2272 [18:14:19] <jelly> since it's different from Debian, the
right place to get answers would be #ubuntu (or #ubuntu-server if
it's supposed to be a server installation)
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2275 [18:14:34] <littlekitty> thanks for your help, jelly
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2296 [18:23:32] <jak2000> service mysql start Failed to start
mysql.service: Unit mysql.service failed to load: No such file or
directory.
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2298 [18:23:51] <jak2000> how to fix? #mariadb say me: go to
#debian channel and ask
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2301 [18:24:32] <jelly> jak2000: which debian release is this?
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2304 [18:25:56] <tripkin> jak2000, what does 'systemctl
status mariadb.service' tell you?
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2309 [18:26:16] <jak2000> jesssie
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2311 [18:26:55] <tripkin> That command will work in jessie, that
is what my server is currently running
2312 [18:27:16] <jak2000>
replaced-url
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2314 [18:27:56] <jak2000> tripkin see?
2315 [18:28:06] <tripkin> Got it
2316 [18:28:12] <jmcnaught> jak2000: and if you run
'systemctl daemon-reload' like it's recommending you
to? How did you install mysql or mariadb?
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2318 [18:28:38] <jak2000> apt-get install mariadb-server
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2320 [18:28:51] <jak2000> systemctl daemon-reload
2321 [18:28:53] <jak2000> no messages
2322 [18:29:14] <tripkin> First things first, there is an error
message at the bottom saying that the init file has changed and you
need to do: systemctl daemon-reload
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2324 [18:29:24] <jak2000>
replaced-url
2325 [18:29:33] <tripkin> It sounds like mariadb is not installed,
or at least there is a problem with it.
2326 [18:30:09] <jak2000>
replaced-url
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2328 [18:30:14] <jak2000> see last command please
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2330 [18:30:50] <jak2000> i have my data backuped in a tar.gz file
/var/lib/mysql/* can i remove these directory and reinstall on clean
install?
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2332 [18:31:00] <jmcnaught> jak2000: you are not using the Debian
packages, but the ones from mariadb?
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2338 [18:32:06] <jmcnaught> jak2000: most of the problems you ask
about in here are directly caused by adding third-party software.
You should really consider trying to do as much as you can using
software in Debian without adding repos and packages
2339 [18:32:07] <jak2000> jmcnaught i followed the instructions on
mariadb server...
2340 [18:32:21] <jak2000> yes i understand
2341 [18:32:29] <tripkin> jak2000, you also need to follow the
directions provided. First of all, run "systemctl
daemon-reload" to clean up systemctl, then, as apt tells you,
you need to run "apt-get -f install"
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2343 [18:32:38] <jak2000> last problem submin i think was
generated this problem
2344 [18:32:41] <tripkin> The instructions are clear as provided
by your system.
2345 [18:33:00] <jmcnaught> ,v mariadb-server
2346 [18:33:01] <judd> Package: mariadb-server on amd64 --
jessie-security: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1; jessie: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1;
jessie-security: 10.0.30-0+deb8u1; jessie: 10.0.30-0+deb8u2;
stretch: 10.1.23-9+deb9u1; sid: 10.1.24-6; buster: 10.1.24-6; sid:
10.1.25-1; experimental: 10.3.0-0+exp1; experimental: 10.3.0-0+exp2
2347 [18:33:20] <jmcnaught> jak2000: ^^ always check if the
software you need is in Debian before adding another repo
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2349 [18:33:37] <jak2000> tripkin ye si do see:
replaced-url
2350 [18:33:55] <jak2000> jmcnaught understand :(
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2352 [18:34:23] <jak2000> i have backuped the directory
/var/lib/mysql isnt sufficient?
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2356 [18:36:07] <jelly> 10.0 is missing rather useful features,
10.1 in stretch is better but there's no backport
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2358 [18:36:34] <jmcnaught> jak2000: it's not the preferred
way to back up MySQL, it's better to do a mysqldump. Was the
database stopped (not running) when you make that backup?
2359 [18:37:06] <jak2000> yes understand too but at this moment is
only this way..
2360 [18:37:09] <tripkin> You are definitely trying to install
10.1, which is not in the debian repos.
2361 [18:37:22] <jak2000> where to download?
2362 [18:38:01] <tripkin> I had to go maria repo route because of
the needed features that jelly referenced, but if you do not follow
the correct procedures, you will run into troubles.
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2364 [18:38:50] <jelly> I managed to convince coworkers to go with
stretch :-)
2365 [18:38:59] <tripkin> The folks at #mariadb should be able to
help you as long as you specify that you are installing from the
mariadb repos. But you will also need to follow their directions -
no shortcuts.
2366 [18:39:01] <jmcnaught> the correct answer would be to use a
stretch system if you need mariadb 10.1
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2370 [18:39:21] <tripkin> Yes, indeed. ^^^
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2372 [18:39:56] <jmcnaught> fortunately databases don't need
to run on the same system as the programs that use them
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2374 [18:40:16] <tripkin> It will ultimately save you a lot of
hassle and confusion.
2375 [18:42:12] <jak2000> i am on:
replaced-url
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2377 [18:42:20] <jak2000> its ok?
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2389 [18:44:37] <jak2000> i followed the steps:
replaced-url
2390 [18:44:40] <jak2000> and failed :(
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2396 [18:46:33] <jmcnaught> jak2000: did you try removing this
mysql-server package? If you provided '/msg dpkg bat' it
might be easier to help you troubleshoot
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2399 [18:47:04] <jmcnaught> if your apt/dpkg database is already
inconsistent or broken some how, you won't be able to install
new packages until you fix that
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2409 [18:50:38] <jak2000> jmcnaught
2410 [18:50:39] <jak2000> ok
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2415 [18:53:10] <tripkin> Absolutely right.
2416 [18:54:37] <TenOfEleven> Today I read on DistroWatch that
Debian needs help with testing Debian Live images. How can I
volunteer and where can I find the information I need to
participate?
2417 [18:55:01] <abrotman> jak2000: and when you run "apt-get
-f install" ?
2418 [18:55:11] <abrotman> TenOfEleven: #debian-live on
irc.oftc.net I believe
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2420 [18:55:33] <jak2000> 1) apt-get/apt/aptitude run apt install
mariadb-server
2421 [18:55:49] <jak2000> 2) this commadn not understand:
apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2 pkg1 wich is?
2422 [18:55:50] <TenOfEleven> Oh thank you <abrotman>
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2459 [19:06:35] <abrotman> jak2000: no, show us the output of
"apt-get -f install"
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2478 [19:15:00] <SerajewelKS> i can't get the 9.1.0-amd64
netinst ISO to boot in virtualbox. the stretch RC3 ISO boots fine.
:/
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2482 [19:16:03] <towo`> "i can't" is saying zero
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2487 [19:17:17] <SerajewelKS> the system does not see the image as
bootable
2488 [19:17:26] <SerajewelKS> i'm not sure how much more i
can say
2489 [19:17:42] <towo`> then propably the image is corrupt
2490 [19:17:52] <abrotman> they have md5sums on the ISO servers
2491 [19:18:00] <towo`> here it starts without any problem in vbox
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2494 [19:19:14] <SerajewelKS> curl
replaced-url
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2499 [19:19:36] <SerajewelKS> wow i'm a potato
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2501 [19:19:46] <SerajewelKS> pretend you didn't see any of
this
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2505 [19:20:32] <SerajewelKS> i was wondering why there were so
few seeds
2506 [19:20:44] <towo`> arn64?
2507 [19:20:52] <towo`> will never start in vbox
2508 [19:20:54] <SerajewelKS> yeah, i mis-clicked the wrong arch
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2513 [19:22:04] <SerajewelKS> everything is fine. except my eyes,
apparently.
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2538 [19:31:35] <hexhaxtron> What should I do with this?
2539 [19:31:37] <hexhaxtron>
replaced-url
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2542 [19:32:30] <ac_slater> hey guys, is it possible to get gcc-5
via official repos for sid?
2543 [19:33:10] <ac_slater> sorry, stretch *
2544 [19:33:23] <greycat> Highly unlikely, since jessie had 4.9.2
and stretch h as 6.3.0
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2546 [19:33:37] <ac_slater> greycat: yea, I need gcc-5.... I guess
I'll build it
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2550 [19:37:17] <Brigo> ac_slater, it looks like there is a gcc-5
package in sid
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2554 [19:38:14] <ac_slater> Brigo: I meant Stretch :(
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2556 [19:38:25] <ac_slater> greycat: does that change your answer
at all?
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2558 [19:38:43] <greycat> ,v gcc-5
2559 [19:38:44] <judd> Package: gcc-5 on amd64 -- sid: 5.4.1-11
2560 [19:38:50] <greycat> ,checkbackport gcc-5
2561 [19:38:51] <ssarah_> hi, i have a debian squeeze machine
2562 [19:38:55] <judd> Backporting package gcc-5 in
sid→stretch/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: gnat-5:native [!m32r !sh3 !sh3eb !sh4eb !powerpcspe
!mips64 !x32], g++-5:native, g++-5-x86-64-linux-gnu [amd64]
<cross>, gobjc-5-x86-64-linux-gnu [amd64] <cross>,
gfortran-5-x86-64-linux-gnu [amd64] <cross>,
gcj-5-x86-64-linux-gnu [amd64] <cross>, gdc-5-x86-64-linux-gnu
[amd64] <cross>, gccgo-5-x86-64
2563 [19:38:56] <judd> -linux-gnu [amd64] <cross>,
gnat-5-x86-64-linux-gnu [amd64] <cross>.
2564 [19:39:05] <ssarah_> can i still activate squeeze-backports
for it?
2565 [19:39:08] <greycat> ac_slater: does not look promising.
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2567 [19:39:12] <ac_slater> greycat: very cool bot. Thanks man
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2569 [19:39:15] <ssarah_> im trying to google how couldnt find it
2570 [19:39:47] <greycat> !squeeze backports
2571 [19:39:47] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the
"Wheezy" (7.x) release of Debian but recompiled for use
with "Squeeze" (6.0) can be found in the
"squeeze-backports" repository. A suitable line for your
sources.list is «deb
replaced-url
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2574 [19:40:48] <ssarah_> httpredir ?
2575 [19:40:54] <ssarah_> i thought it would be deb
replaced-url
2576 [19:40:58] <ssarah_> *main
2577 [19:41:53] <greycat> Dunno. It also says it's only
supported for the lifetime of squeeze-lts, which is no longer alive.
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2579 [19:42:31] <ssarah_>
replaced-url
2580 [19:42:32] <ssarah_> gona try it
2581 [19:42:37] <ssarah_> "alive"
2582 [19:42:45] <ssarah_> ty :)
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2584 [19:43:12] <jmcnaught> ssarah_: but why though? if you need
newer software on your obsolete version of Debian, the common sense
approach is upgrade to newer, supported release
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2586 [19:43:29] <jelly> yeah, that factoid needs fixing
2587 [19:43:35] <jelly> all things squeeze are archived now
2588 [19:43:35] <ssarah_> yeh, it's a big company, they dont
allow me to upgrade machines, just trying to see if i can work
around it before askig for an upgrade
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2639 [20:03:33] <dontknow> debian is love
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2642 [20:03:50] <dontknow> my dearest
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2644 [20:05:57] <dontknow> it is not your debian. it is mine!
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2661 [20:14:27] <ac_slater> k
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2707 [20:38:03] <Putti> Hi, I'm using the following settings
for 3g usb modem (configured with nmcli): <replaced-url
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2709 [20:38:12] <Putti> The modem supports IPv6 and also the ISP
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2716 [20:41:25] <jmcnaught> Putti: does the ISP support IPv6?
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2736 [20:51:58] <jhutchin1_wk> Putti: Just a guess, what about
setting ipv6.method to dhcp?
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2782 [21:22:38] <Akuw> is possible to have diferent startup file
for same card
2783 [21:22:42] <Akuw> network card
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2787 [21:24:46] <jmcnaught> Akuw: what do you mean? what are you
trying to do?
2788 [21:25:19] <Akuw> i need static ip, but sometimes to update i
need dhcp
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2794 [21:26:01] <greycat> That really did not clear anything up,
at least for me.
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2796 [21:26:39] <Akuw> ok, i need most of time static ip, like
10.0.0.140
2797 [21:26:49] <Akuw> but to update i need dhcp
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2799 [21:26:58] <greycat> To update what?
2800 [21:27:04] <Akuw> to get file from web
2801 [21:27:08] <greycat> ...
2802 [21:27:12] <Akuw> to install something, etc
2803 [21:27:19] <greycat> So 10.0.0.140 is an internal network not
connected to the Internet?
2804 [21:27:25] <Akuw> yes
2805 [21:27:45] <greycat> And this computer moves physically
between networks, either by being a laptop, or by you switching the
cables?
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2808 [21:30:36] <Akuw> no
2809 [21:30:41] <Akuw> is a virtual machine
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2829 [21:41:19] <Putti> jhutchin1_wk: I tried that but then
"nmcli connection up" gives "Error: Connection
activation failed." I don't know how to get the error
description more verbose.
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2852 [21:55:24] <chris__> good evening.
2853 [21:55:30] <chris__> i want to open a file i select in
dolphin in a specific app via shortcut, but i don't know how to
get the filename as an argument. is this possible?
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2866 [21:58:40] <well_laid_lawn> someone in #kde might know
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2872 [22:01:24] <OS-30434> hello
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2888 [22:09:00] <chris__> thank you
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3087 [23:41:46] <ynos> Hello. Im trying to get openRCT2 under
stretch. However, it requires libpng12, wich i understand is not
available under stretch. Any workarounds?
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3089 [23:42:17] <jhutchin1_wk> ,v libpng12
3090 [23:42:18] <judd> No package named 'libpng12' was
found in amd64.
3091 [23:42:33] <jhutchin1_wk> ,v libpngl2
3092 [23:42:34] <judd> No package named 'libpngl2' was
found in amd64.
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3094 [23:42:46] <apollo13> ,v libpng16
3095 [23:42:47] <judd> No package named 'libpng16' was
found in amd64.
3096 [23:42:56] <apollo13> ah it is libpng16-16
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3099 [23:43:11] <apollo13> ynos: if that is all that is missing
I'd probably manually compile it
3100 [23:43:17] <jhutchin1_wk> ,v libpng12-0
3101 [23:43:18] <judd> Package: libpng12-0 on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.2.49-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 1.2.49-1+deb7u2; jessie-security:
1.2.50-2+deb8u2; jessie: 1.2.50-2+deb8u3
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3103 [23:44:34] <jmcnaught> installing the jessie package is
probably better than manually compiling
3104 [23:45:47] <ynos> Im completely new to debian, coming from 15
years of gentoo, i have no idea how to get packages from different
versions, hehe
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3108 [23:47:25] <jhutchin1_wk> ynos: Generally we recommend mixing
releases, with a few exceptions.
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3110 [23:48:10] <jmcnaught> ynos: ^^ they mean we recommend not
mixing releases…
3111 [23:48:31] <ynos> jmcnaught: haha actually, i did suspect
that :)
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3114 [23:48:47] <jmcnaught> however it's not as bad to add
repos/packages for a release _older_ than the one you are using.
Adding repos/packages for a release _newer_ than yours is bad news
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3117 [23:49:26] <ynos> i see, is it possible via the package
manager?
3118 [23:49:34] <jhutchin1_wk> jmcnaught: Gah, thanks.
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3123 [23:50:03] <jhutchin1_wk> ynos: For a single package you
might just download it.
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3125 [23:50:56] <ynos> alright, so compile it "manually"
then?
3126 [23:52:16] <jmcnaught> ynos: you can download the single
package from here and use "dpkg -i packagename.deb" to
install it:
replaced-url
3127 [23:52:24] <jmcnaught> !jessie sources.list
3128 [23:52:24] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
3129 [23:52:31] <jhutchin1_wk> ynos:
replaced-url
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3133 [23:53:55] <n4dir> in general, not this case, you don't
simply compile, but create a deb package, which is known as
"backport it". Or: that is what is recommended.
3134 [23:54:10] <jhutchin1_wk> ynos: Sorry,
replaced-url
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3144 [23:58:27] <ynos> Thanks guys! Got that out of the way,
however, now its complaining about libcrypto 1.0.0 instead
3145 [23:58:44] <ynos> guess their build is hopelessly old or
something..
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