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6 [00:02:10] <jhutchins> !lvm
7 [00:02:11] <dpkg> [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (replaced-url
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11 [00:03:49] <jhutchins> karlpinc: The various
"display" commands will give you that info, although I
can't tell you exactly how to find what you need.
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13 [00:05:10] <jhutchins> That's one of the problems with
lvm, it encourages unnecessary complexity.
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141 [01:49:12] <gunchyo> Hello, I am currently using debian
stretch, but I have some mix-matched packages. I am wondering if I
can upgrade to buster or sid without reinstalling my whole OS
142 [01:49:21] <gunchyo> this is on a non-prod personal server
143 [01:49:42] <gunchyo> someone mentioned based on the libc
version I had installed that I was pretty much already on unstable
144 [01:49:54] <ryouma> tons of tools will tell you what versions
are non typical
145 [01:50:08] <ryouma> apt-show-versions
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151 [01:52:43] <zumba_addict> good evening folks. Am I right that
dpkg is a debian/ubuntu binary?
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155 [01:54:03] <gunchyo> ryouma, if that was directed at me, my
question is more, can I change 99defaultreleas, change sources.list
for sid, and just apt-get upgrade?
156 [01:54:16] <gunchyo> without having to reinstall my OS?
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159 [01:56:03] <gunchyo> libc6:amd64 2.27-3 newer than version in
archive
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161 [01:59:37] <ryouma> gunchyo: idk. i would guess yes, but that
does not help you.
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171 [02:05:55] <BCMM> zumba_addict: dpkg is debian's
(low-level) package manager. It is a binary (not a shell script).
Ubuntu is a Debian-based distro, and inherits dpkg along with a lot
of other core tools
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176 [02:06:12] <zumba_addict> cool. Thanks BCMM :)
177 [02:06:14] <BCMM> zumba_addict: does that answer your
question? i wasn't entirely sure which parts you were seeking
clarification on
178 [02:06:19] <zumba_addict> yup
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181 [02:07:12] <zumba_addict> i'm debugging Qualys's
agent. Their agent is only meant for debian based distros. However,
our distro is fedora. I noticed in the logs it was calling dpkg
182 [02:07:33] <`Koyaanisqatsi> is alsa playback broken in buster
or is it just me?
183 [02:07:39] <annadane> !debian-next
184 [02:07:40] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
185 [02:07:42] <zumba_addict> i'm now trying to hunt down
that script that calls dpkg
186 [02:07:44] <annadane> i'd ask there ^
187 [02:08:03] <BCMM> zumba_addict: is this one of those
.run-style installers, where you just download something, chmod +x
it and run it?
188 [02:08:08] <zumba_addict> but i'm good now. Thanks for
confirming
189 [02:08:16] <zumba_addict> I think it is
190 [02:08:28] <zumba_addict> i'm reading their isntaller
now
191 [02:09:31] <Krennic> hmm
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193 [02:09:38] <BCMM> zumba_addict: i'm surprised it would
support debian only - proprietary, enterprisey stuff usually prefers
RHEL. are you sure they don't offer more than one download
option on their site?
194 [02:09:56] <BCMM> i mean, maybe you have the debian version,
but there's also a redhat version available?
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199 [02:10:18] <zumba_addict> I'm verifying now how I was
installing it. I did it 3 months ago
200 [02:11:47] <zumba_addict> ah, we were given an rpm copy of
the installer then we put it in our internal registry server
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205 [02:14:33] <joepublic> I would say figuring out whether you
should be calling pacman or dpkg or rpm or pkg_add is probably worth
the complexity it entails.
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211 [02:19:22] <zumba_addict> I found the culprit. Even if they
packaged their installer in rpm, the binary that they included in
the package are meant for debian-based distros. They included
binaries maybe encoded in some format. However, running strings
against the binary and grepping dpkg revealed the dpkg command that
I saw was failing in /var/log/qualys/qualys.log
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214 [02:20:37] <zumba_addict> header says "SQLite format
3"
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216 [02:20:56] <zumba_addict> though this is another binary. Let
me check the first one I opened
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299 [03:41:09] <KNERD> I normally keep my laptop sitting on a
desk connected to a secondary monitor via HDMI port. I went on a
trip with it this past weekend. Now the HDMI port seems to not want
to activate. Any ideas, or guides on how to troubleshoot this? Not
really seeing much online about that
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303 [03:42:43] <KNERD> well crap. All of a sudden it is
functioning again
304 [03:42:48] <KNERD> so odd
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306 [03:43:14] <n4dir> not the first time i run in the magic of
something suddenly working, as soon i asked about it.
307 [03:44:10] <KNERD> yeah like when you take a car to the
mechanic and all of a sudden it is no longer broken
308 [03:44:25] <ryouma> tire noise KNERD
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310 [03:45:09] <fifi-v> I'm having troubles with xmodmap
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328 [04:05:16] <KNERD> fifi-v: mapping could be different for
that keyboard?
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341 [04:15:16] <fifi-v> KNERD: pressing them separately has no
problem, and this happens to three laotops I have (macbook air,
macbook pro, and a Lenovo), a friend of mine has the same issue, so
I think it's not a keyboard problem.
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355 [04:31:26] <KNERD> fifi-v: I did not say a keyboard issue,
but a layout issue
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360 [04:32:45] <tomahawk> hey :)
361 [04:32:54] <rblss-fsf> hello!
362 [04:32:59] <tomahawk> hello
363 [04:33:01] <tomahawk> thanks
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368 [04:35:29] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys i am having trouble
with nvidia and bumblebee. i installed it but system freezes when i
boot it... i had to boot by appending 1 to the grub kernel line.
369 [04:35:48] <InvisibleRasta> earlier it worked once when i did
rmmod nvidia modprobe nvidia
370 [04:35:58] <InvisibleRasta> but it worked only once
371 [04:36:19] <InvisibleRasta> then i ran dpkg-revonfigure
nvidia and bumblebee and since then i cant boot into X
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374 [04:36:58] <InvisibleRasta> also as of now when i try to
login in tty as user it says System is booting up see pam_nologin
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376 [04:37:20] <InvisibleRasta> so i had to login as root and
then su user
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379 [04:39:06] <InvisibleRasta>
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381 [04:41:45] <rblss-fsf> how difficult is it to change from the
default Gnome environment to something else? I'm really new to
linux and privacy in general but I hate the fact that I can't
minimize screens
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384 [04:42:16] <insomniac20k> why can't you minimize
screens?
385 [04:42:38] <InvisibleRasta> anyone would be able to give a
look at my logs?
386 [04:42:39] <rblss-fsf> You have me second guessing now
387 [04:42:50] <rblss-fsf> I only see an X in the top right hand
corner
388 [04:43:28] <n4dir> rblss-fsf: it is easy to switch
environments. You install another desktop environemnt (or even a
window manager) and choose it when logging in, from the display
manager.
389 [04:43:31] <KNERD> rblss-fsf: you have to log out, then look
at the login screen where you can change the Desktop Enviroment
390 [04:43:40] <KNERD> (if it is installed)
391 [04:44:16] <rblss-fsf> oh that's niffty
392 [04:44:19] <insomniac20k> you should be able to minimize
screens thoug
393 [04:44:21] <insomniac20k> h
394 [04:44:56] <rblss-fsf> so I can try to install the
environment via the guides and if I screw up I can stil default back
to gnome
395 [04:45:16] <n4dir> i seem to recall that gnome3 even comes
with an alternative you can choose (something more
"old-school")
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397 [04:45:42] <rblss-fsf> I'll dig around for something,
thanks!
398 [04:45:45] <insomniac20k> You should prob try to solve the
actual problem before jumping to a new environment though
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400 [04:46:04] <rblss-fsf> the minimizing problem?
401 [04:46:21] <insomniac20k> yeah
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408 [04:51:04] <ryouma> i find desktop managers to be
inaccessible. so i use login prompt and a window manager. dunno if
you can use a de with login prompt.
409 [04:51:31] <rblss-fsf> from digitizor, Owen Taylor wrote to
the GNOME mailing list "So I'm going to remove the
minimize and maximize buttons for GNOME 3.0, and if it doesn't
work out, we'll eat crow, design window hiding right, and add
it back for 3.2."
410 [04:52:05] <ryouma> meaning they do it with a menu?)
411 [04:52:22] <ryouma> or meaning that they took the gnome 2
philosophy of removing features to a new low?
412 [04:52:24] <rblss-fsf> I can still right click and minimize
though. However, I'm going to keep it now that I know
"workspaces" are a thing too
413 [04:53:45] <rblss-fsf> oh and use the windblows key to switch
between them. Hmm, I'll just still with Gnome 3 for now
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456 [05:30:25] <Robr3rd> I'm having a hard time effectively
Googling for this simple question--what does the `command` command
do? I've looked at `man command` but don't feel any more
enlightened, really.
457 [05:32:34] <n4dir> Robr3rd: i don't really know it, but
run in it in #bash now and then as a (better) solution than
"which".
458 [05:33:02] <n4dir> Say someone has a script, and he wants to
make sure a certain program is installed. Instead of which the usage
of "command" seems recommended.
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460 [05:33:46] <n4dir> Not sure if that helps you, "help
command" sure is cryptic, but at least you know a use-case now.
(head to #bash and type /msg greybot wich ; perhaps that will tell
you more)
461 [05:34:09] <Robr3rd> n4dir:
462 [05:35:12] <Robr3rd> n4dir: Yeah, that is helpful and I can
kinda see what you're describing--especially since in my case
`which ls` or `which grep` both come back with "umm...it's
aliased?" whilst `command ls/grep` happily still runs it
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464 [05:36:08] <n4dir> ah, i see. good then (as said, i for one
hardly ever need it). Asking in #bash won't hurt, i guess. They
should know more (the people here too, but at this time #debian is
rather silent)
465 [05:36:26] <Robr3rd> :) Thank you, n4dir!
466 [05:36:39] <n4dir> no problem. i just forwarded a bit of info
:-)
467 [05:37:43] <n4dir> that's the good thing about #bash:
you learn quite a bit by only idling there.
468 [05:38:36] <Robr3rd> Oh geez, yeah I bet!
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498 [06:12:09] <Robr3rd> TL;DR (assume in a TTY) = `ls` will be
affected by any aliases or functions present in your session that
override `ls`. `command ls` bypasses any aliases or functions and
just gets straight to the "pure" version of `ls`.
499 [06:12:51] <Robr3rd> Meanwhile, there's also `\ls` and
`"ls"` which will bypass any aliases, but still may be
overridden by functions.
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501 [06:13:49] <n4dir> glad you asked over there. Very
interesting to read.
502 [06:14:21] <Robr3rd> Same!
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505 [06:18:12] <Robr3rd> And just to "round off" my
knowledge share here: in general, `ls` is all you need if
you're writing shell scripts (executable files) since those
don't inherit the aliases/functions of your session since
they're not run within that context; rather, the only time
these will be useful (in general) is if writing code that will be
executed _in_ a TTY, e.g., writing aliases that you don't want
to risk conflicting wth other aliases).
506 [06:19:28] <Robr3rd> ...but yeah--learned a ton! Thanks for
the recommendation, n4dir! Best of wishes to you! *scurries away*
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509 [06:19:41] <n4dir> :-)
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514 [06:25:55] <InvisibleRasta> hry guys would anyone be so kind
to help me figuring out how to configure my graphics? i tried
bumblebee primus, nbidia-bumblebee, nvidia-drivers
515 [06:26:00] <InvisibleRasta> none of them are working
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518 [06:31:50] <InvisibleRasta> none of them are working with the
nvidia drivers from the nvidia site?
519 [06:31:58] <InvisibleRasta> its the only driver i havent
tried yet
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558 [07:02:20] <tsarompy> hi #debian <3
559 [07:02:29] <tsarompy> im getting a weird error when i run apt
560 [07:02:33] <tsarompy>
./usr/share/apt-listchanges/apt_listchanges.py:540: FutureWarning:
Possible nested set at position 25
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566 [07:13:11] <awal1> judd: bug 911868
567 [07:13:12] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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583 [07:29:38] <willemb> what is the best way to find out what
packages are installed, but not installable?
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587 [07:31:40] <themill> !not available
588 [07:31:40] <dpkg> To get a list of packages you have
installed now, that are not available from any repository in your
sources.list: aptitude search
'?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'
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591 [07:32:18] <towo^work> apt-show-version even can show that
592 [07:32:33] <towo^work> *apt-show-versions
593 [07:32:49] <themill> sometimes
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596 [07:34:06] <willemb> I use apt-show-version now, but it gets
confused about docker-ce (from their third party repo)
597 [07:35:38] <willemb> does this version number look weird:
"5:18.09.0~3-0~debian-stretch" ?
598 [07:36:06] <willemb> because apt-show-versions doesn't
consider it to be the latest available version of docker-ce
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600 [07:36:27] <themill> what does "apt-cache policy
docker-ce" say?
601 [07:36:38] <themill> it's an 'interesting'
version string, but it's legal
602 [07:36:40] <willemb> it thinks it is the one I should install
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606 [07:37:58] <willemb>
replaced-url
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608 [07:38:45] <willemb> for whatever reason, it looks like
apt-show-versions considers 5:18.09 to be TOO NEW.
609 [07:39:11] <willemb> any chance it gets tripped up by the
epoch?
610 [07:39:54] <themill> there's a chance but you'd
think that would be unlikely
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612 [07:40:30] <willemb> yes. I've added in some prints
statements in a copy of apt-show-versions. the version it is
comparing against is 18.06
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614 [07:40:59] <themill> 18.09 is still newer than 18.06
615 [07:41:14] <themill> but it should short-circuit the
comparison at 5 > 0
616 [07:41:31] <willemb> correct. It is almost like it
doesn't believe it to be the same package?
617 [07:41:40] <willemb> or not for the same release or
architecture
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657 [08:14:33] <willemb> thanks for the 'not available'
hint
658 [08:15:01] <willemb> it picks up a bunch of other packages
from 3rd party repos that are actually up to date
659 [08:15:04] <willemb> sigh
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886 [10:31:24] <outZoNe> hi
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890 [10:32:00] <outZoNe> Sorry. there are Russian speakers ?
891 [10:32:06] <outZoNe> SolarAquarion: hi
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894 [10:32:32] <jelly> !ru
895 [10:32:33] <dpkg> Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста,
говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net)
(Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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899 [10:32:55] <diogenes_> outZoNe, da
900 [10:33:08] <outZoNe> ura
901 [10:33:23] <outZoNe> a che ne v debian-russia?
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904 [10:34:12] <outZoNe> go channel: debian-russian
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910 [10:35:10] <trofar> Allah is doing
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960 [10:56:13] <ov3rmind> hey guys here is a good time to say
good morning
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971 [11:00:07] <SpeedyG> "its always five o'clock
somewhere" :P
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977 [11:01:53] <rpifan> so is it route that non root users cant
bind to ports under 1000, how does apache then run as the apache
user
978 [11:02:44] <jelly> rpifan: 1024, apache first binds to port,
then drops privileges
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981 [11:04:08] <jelly> if you look at its process tree, the first
"main" process runs as root
982 [11:04:39] <jelly> (the parent of all the other
replaced-url
983 [11:05:19] <tormelloso> hello
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986 [11:06:28] <rpifan> i see yea thats what the guy i talked
told me, i honestly had no idea thats how it works
987 [11:06:43] <rpifan> so what if you need two processes to run
on port 80 and 443 how would you manage that
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989 [11:07:37] <petn-randall> rpifan: Why do you need two?
990 [11:07:39] <jelly> you don't need two processes, one can
bind() and have many listeners
991 [11:08:19] <rpifan> i mean we have jira and svn running on a
machine and we cant seem to figure out a good way of having both
accessible
992 [11:08:23] <jelly> on same or different tcp listener (ip,
port)s
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996 [11:09:37] <jelly> rpifan: run jira in tomcat on some high
port on localhost, and put a reverse proxy (AJP or normal http) in
front
997 [11:09:40] <rpifan> but how do you go about having jira and
svn share the ports? there has to be some kind of intermidiary
right?
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1000 [11:09:59] <rpifan> a reverse proxy using what? squid?
1001 [11:10:10] <jelly> mginx, haproxy, apache
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1003 [11:10:15] <jelly> nginx*
1004 [11:11:15] <rpifan> right
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1006 [11:11:23] <rpifan> seems annoying
1007 [11:11:46] <colo-work> total standard procedure
1008 [11:11:53] <rpifan> yea im sure it is
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1010 [11:12:20] <colo-work> very few setups actually have tomcat
terminate client connections directly (mostly due to cargo-culting
these days, though)
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1017 [11:16:44] <petn-randall> Or the general distrust that java
devs get things right ... ;)
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1022 [11:18:42] <jelly> it's easier to terminate ssl
connections on a reverse proxy and do service foo reload than having
to restart jira which TAKES ITS TIME to stop, and boot again
1023 [11:19:26] <jelly> whichever foo you use. Even apache is good
enough.
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1039 [11:26:11] <rpifan> but why do we need tomcat
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1041 [11:26:15] <rpifan> seems like excessive load
1042 [11:26:22] <rpifan> why cant apache run it
1043 [11:26:36] <SpeedyG> 'thats the way jira works' ?
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1046 [11:27:40] <rpifan> replace jira!
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1057 [11:34:38] <webmind> hi, when loading the debian installer on
a new intel nuc (NUC8i3BEH), but after grub, the installer shows up
as like load of tiny screens on top of the screen. unreadably small
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1062 [11:38:32] <webmind> any ideas on how to get a plain text
screen back?
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1068 [11:40:51] <diogenes_> webmind, maybe to discard the theme
for the grub?
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1077 [11:44:29] <webmind> diogenes_: grub boots, it's it goes
bananas when the kernel gets loaded
1078 [11:45:33] <Tom01> Can the Meltdown and Spectre-Patches be
deactivated?
1079 [11:45:44] <Tom01> Speed is more important to me.
1080 [11:45:55] <towo^work> yes, they can
1081 [11:46:01] <Tom01> That is good.
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1083 [11:47:15] <towo^work> webmind, try the non-free, firmware
included iso
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1085 [11:47:53] <webmind> towo^work: does that matter for the
kernel?
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1089 [11:48:37] <towo^work> webmind, the graphic in that thing is
needing non-free firmware
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1092 [11:50:06] <webmind> towo^work: but that won't be in the
kernel of the non-free installer will it?
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1094 [11:50:27] <towo^work> firmware is not in kernel
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1096 [11:50:39] <towo^work> it's allways in a separate
package
1097 [11:50:52] <webmind> yeah, but this already fails when the
kernel loads
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1099 [11:51:04] <webmind> before I can load any firmware
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1101 [11:51:09] <towo^work> webmind, you are saying black screen
1102 [11:51:12] <webmind> no
1103 [11:51:24] <webmind> lots of tiny screens on top of the
display
1104 [11:51:49] <webmind> (I'm trying to find the non-free
installer btw :)
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1106 [11:52:33] <webmind> found
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1110 [11:53:48] <towo^work> webmind, and maybe, the stable kernel
is to old for that piece of cpu/gpu
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1112 [11:55:37] <webmind> I'll try testing iso after this
then
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1116 [11:57:01] <webmind> non-free same problem
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1123 [11:59:45] <webmind> testing works \o/
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1138 [12:11:32] <rainbowtux> hi all, dpkg --configure -a hangs and
i cannot find out why... debug shows as last line: D000001:
deferred_configure updating conffiles
1139 [12:11:34] <rainbowtux> any ideas?
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1258 [13:18:57] <HexaByte> Hi guys. How can I check currently set
values for kernel module parameters like these here:
replaced-url
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1262 [13:21:05] <jelly> HexaByte:
/sys/module/modulenamehere/parameters/ maybe
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1266 [13:22:03] <HexaByte> jelly: tnx will check
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1270 [13:25:01] <HexaByte> jelly: you were correct :-)
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1286 [13:34:02] <colo-work> I esp. like `grep -H --color
/sys/module/modulenamehere/parameters/*` in that regard
1287 [13:34:19] <colo-work> makes it easy to see what's what
if a module has many parameters
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1289 [13:35:14] <jelly> colo-work: you probably forgot a . to grep
for, in there
1290 [13:35:24] <colo-work> ah, yes, of course .)
1291 [13:35:33] <colo-work> `grep -H --color .
/sys/module/modulenamehere/parameters/*`
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1318 [13:54:31] <HexaByte> tnx guys for the hint :-)
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1338 [14:13:18] <webmind> anyone know how to let update-grub
detect the 2nd debian installation on a raid device?
1339 [14:13:28] <webmind> software raid1
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1348 [14:20:59] <jelly> webmind: hm, maybe temporarily assemble
that md array. and rerun it
1349 [14:21:17] <jelly> make sure os-prober is installed (it
usually is)
1350 [14:21:35] <murii> hey, I'm using grep on a file and I
want to print the 4th element from grep, grep outputs me rows of
text and I only want to 4th element
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1354 [14:22:38] <murii> eg: Execution handled in: 997942
microseconds
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1357 [14:23:34] <dab21> murii: Pipe through "awk '{print
$4;}'"
1358 [14:23:39] <murii> thanks
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1360 [14:24:03] <webmind> jelly: I have the array assembled and
mounted
1361 [14:24:04] <Fox> should be $5 (if he wants 997942)
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1364 [14:24:30] <webmind> os-prober is installed
1365 [14:24:31] <dab21> Or if they're just single spaces, use
cut -d' ' -f4
1366 [14:24:45] <webmind> but it doesn't see it
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1370 [14:26:21] <murii> Fox: $4 aws good
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1372 [14:26:35] <murii> in: is one word
1373 [14:27:07] <Fox> hell, I counted "eg:" in the line
:D
1374 [14:27:42] <murii> can I give sort a limit?
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1377 [14:29:20] <murii> nvm :)
1378 [14:29:37] <murii> tail -n fixed it
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1431 [15:05:45] <thms> I had a problem with a clean isntall of
mysql-server / mariaDB (debian 9).
1432 [15:06:02] <thms> I tried to remove /var/lib/mysql and mv
/etc/mysql after doing apt-get remove --purge
1433 [15:06:19] <thms> But now when re-installing, it does not
create the /etc/mysql again nor /var/lib/mysql ..
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1435 [15:07:08] <themill> !confmiss
1436 [15:07:08] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging
system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is
assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall
$packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the
package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about
<ucf confmiss>.
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1440 [15:09:45] <thms> Let's try.
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1454 [15:19:15] <thms> themill, I'm using debian 9 so I had
to install aptitude. When I ran this for the first time it told me
mysql-server would be remove and didn't reinstall it
1455 [15:19:17] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys, i jsut installed
stretch and i can boot into X the only thing is that i cant figure
out how to install the nvidia drivers. i have a laptop with nvidia
gtx960M. I tried to isntall nvidia-bumblebee and prime but X was
jsut flashing then tried also nvidia-drivers with bumblebee and jsut
nvidia-drivers but none of the solutions worked. i now had to
reinstall from scratch but yeah i am not able to use
1456 [15:19:19] <InvisibleRasta> nvidia
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1461 [15:19:52] <thms> themill, uh ah it needs to be installed to
reinstall.
1462 [15:20:26] <thms> OK, it "REINSTALLED" but
didn't set up /etc/mysql :(
1463 [15:20:31] <InvisibleRasta> on my archlinux install the
drivers work with nvidia and bumblebee packages installed. i dont
know what is the corresponding package on debian stretch.
1464 [15:20:43] <InvisibleRasta> well on arch its version 410 tho
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1467 [15:21:57] <InvisibleRasta>
replaced-url
1468 [15:22:01] <InvisibleRasta> so no nvidia drivers
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1470 [15:22:14] <themill> thms: mysql-server is not the right
package
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1473 [15:24:59] <thms> themill, thought the metapackage would work
as well. But turns out you're right! Thanks !
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1475 [15:26:08] <themill> yeah, you're only telling apt to
act on a single package not a dependency tree
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1478 [15:26:31] <thms> themill, do I need aptitude to do this, or
is there something similar apt-get or apt
1479 [15:26:58] <themill> any of them will work
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1481 [15:27:53] <Kohlrabi> Hi, is there a way to test debain
installer preesed.cfg without running a whole installation?
1482 [15:28:17] <Kohlrabi> I have some late-commands, but I
don't want to run the whole installation procedure in a VM all
the time to just check the commands at the end
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1484 [15:29:27] <thms> Alright thank you for your time themill
1485 [15:29:41] <themill> np
1486 [15:30:10] <InvisibleRasta> would anyone be able to help me
out, i went trought like 5 reinstalls so far.
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1488 [15:31:38] <InvisibleRasta> i am not suer what im doing wrong
with this video drivers
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1527 [16:01:58] <thms> InvisibleRasta, and what's wrong ?
Your log doesn't show any errors (EE)
1528 [16:02:18] <thms> Ho wait, 5.024] (EE) Unknown chipset: NV117
1529 [16:02:32] <InvisibleRasta>
replaced-url
1530 [16:02:41] <InvisibleRasta> thms: i made a forum post with
all the logs
1531 [16:02:57] <InvisibleRasta> and all the options i tried so
far
1532 [16:03:10] <InvisibleRasta> if you want to check it out id be
gratefull
1533 [16:03:34] <thms> Well I think you *need* tje Nvidia drivers
1534 [16:05:07] <thms> and debian and nvidia are a love-hate
relationship. Can't really help much more than that.
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1538 [16:05:46] <InvisibleRasta> well i tried isntalling that
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1540 [16:05:53] <InvisibleRasta> didnt work.. system was flashing
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1543 [16:06:45] <thms> InvisibleRasta,
replaced-url
1544 [16:07:29] <webmind> anyone know what kind of output
os-prober should give for a valid other debian system?
1545 [16:07:38] <InvisibleRasta> thms: i added more info on the
post if you want to check it out
1546 [16:07:43] <thms> As you can see the version used by your
arch is 410, and packaged debian version is less than that. I think
you were in the right way installing it, but there is a bug in the
package which makes your screen flash :/
1547 [16:08:07] <InvisibleRasta> thms: that doesnt happen on
archlinux tho
1548 [16:08:26] <thms> InvisibleRasta, yes, because of different
(more recent) version
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1553 [16:10:15] <thms> InvisibleRasta, you can find the same
version here:
replaced-url
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1557 [16:11:29] <thms> Bear in mind my experience is from ~10
years ago. Now, I learned not to buy NVIDIA :=⁾
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1559 [16:14:11] <InvisibleRasta> ill try that
1560 [16:14:29] <InvisibleRasta> does it take care of removing the
current drivers?
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1562 [16:15:28] <Lupulo> hi
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1592 [16:30:26] <FXpro> how do I change the boot order?
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1594 [16:30:45] <nkuttler> FXpro: of?
1595 [16:30:52] <FXpro> grub
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1597 [16:31:10] <FXpro> I am dual boot but I had to redo windows
10 and now gotta config the thing which takes like 1000 reboots.
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1599 [16:31:34] <FXpro> I I want to put windows 10 as the default
boot while doing the reconfig.
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1601 [16:31:54] <nkuttler> iirc check /usr/share/doc/grub..
haven't done it since grub2
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1603 [16:32:50] <nkuttler> i think the grub.cfg might be
overwritten by package installs
1604 [16:33:12] <FXpro> should be a simple thing from a menu and
that or even command line.
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1607 [16:33:39] <nkuttler>
replaced-url
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1612 [16:36:40] <n4dir> FXpro /etc/default/grub ; GRUB_DEFAULT= ;
here first line.
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1618 [16:39:55] <FXpro> just a sec, gotta check an unrelated
thing. whining complaining software ;p
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1634 [16:47:48] <FXpro> ok SO!....
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1637 [16:48:05] <FXpro> n4dir, are you available?
1638 [16:48:22] <n4dir> i am on my way out.
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1640 [16:49:39] <annadane> you can always ask the rest of #debia
1641 [16:49:40] <annadane> n
1642 [16:50:27] <rblss-fsf> Happy Thanksgiving to those that
celebrate it! Any suggestions on linux for beginner books to pick up
this holiday season, or books about the importance of free software?
1643 [16:51:01] <annadane> maybe ask ##linux, this is more of a
support channel
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1648 [16:55:05] <rblss-fsf> sorry, I'll take it there
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1652 [16:59:11] <annadane> rblss-fsf, or #gnu also
1653 [16:59:19] <Lupulo> rblss-fsf, you should read Stallman
1654 [16:59:42] <Lupulo> rblss-fsf,
replaced-url
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1657 [17:02:27] <webmind> for some reason, os-prober is
-explicitly- ignoring raid arrays
1658 [17:02:31] <webmind> can someone tell me why?
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1681 [17:18:43] <petn-randall> webmind: Are they assembled?
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1706 [17:27:47] <jelly> petn-randall: that was the frist thing I
asked 8 hours ago!
1707 [17:27:54] <jelly> (they are, also mounted as well)
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1709 [17:28:54] <jelly> Lupulo: one imagines a person with fsf in
the nickname might know about Stallman already
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1712 [17:30:17] <petn-randall> Lupulo: I can recommend "Free
Software, free society" by Richard Stallman
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1724 [17:36:57] <webmind> petn-randall: yes and mounted
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1731 [17:38:02] <webmind> I solved it by forcing os-prober to look
at /dev/md3
1732 [17:38:12] <webmind> thanks
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1763 [17:55:21] <spectralthief> hello
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1765 [17:55:34] <spectralthief> I have a little issue with
/var/log/debug
1766 [17:55:51] <spectralthief> it's nearly 1GB because
it's flooded by the following message:
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1768 [17:55:53] <spectralthief> "Nov 19 00:39:36 pcpc1919
kernel: evbug: Event. Dev: input11, Type: 2, Code: 0, Value: -2
1769 [17:55:56] <spectralthief> "
1770 [17:56:12] <spectralthief> I'm not sure what's
wrong with the input
1771 [17:56:42] <spectralthief> how could I disable this message
from appearing in the log?
1772 [17:56:49] <hiroshi> Hello folks. I have and gpg key error in
a fresh debian 9.6 host
1773 [17:57:00] <hiroshi> E: The repository 'replaced-url
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1776 [17:59:07] <LtL> spectralthief: if you deem is necessary you
can filter that from your logs with a line in /etc/rsyslog.conf
1777 [17:59:19] <jelly> spectralthief: which debian release is
this?
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1779 [17:59:35] <spectralthief> it's Stretch
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1781 [17:59:44] <spectralthief> do I need a more specific release
number?
1782 [17:59:55] <jelly> default kernel?
1783 [18:00:09] <spectralthief> not, linux-surface kernel
1784 [18:00:11] <jelly> spectralthief: what does "uname
-a" say
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1786 [18:00:20] <spectralthief> I'm not surprised there are
errors, it's linux-surface
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1788 [18:00:37] <spectralthief> Linux pcpc1919
4.18.16-surface-linux-surface #15 SMP Tue Oct 23 10:33:36 EDT 2018
x86_64 GNU/Linux
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1790 [18:00:51] <jelly> where does that kernel come from?
1791 [18:01:05] <spectralthief>
replaced-url
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1793 [18:01:16] <spectralthief> *
replaced-url
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1795 [18:01:40] <jelly> you'll want to ask that dev about the
cause for the evbug messages. Probably device and kernel specific.
1796 [18:01:52] <spectralthief> you're right, thanks
1797 [18:02:03] <spectralthief> meanwhile I'll see what I can
do with rsyslog.conf
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1806 [18:07:00] <spectralthief> ":msg, contains, "evbug:
Event. Dev: input" -/dev/null
1807 [18:07:02] <spectralthief> "
1808 [18:07:37] <spectralthief> ^ putting that into rsyslogd.conf
should filter these messages, I hope
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1811 [18:09:43] <scatterbrainz> cuz iiiiiiii......am everyday
people.
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1813 [18:10:05] <scatterbrainz> is it challenging to set up a
remote ssh into debian
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1822 [18:14:42] <watchcat> it's easy as pie. securing it well
might take a little study. scatterbrainz .
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1825 [18:15:06] <scatterbrainz> well would VNC be better option ?
1826 [18:15:19] <scatterbrainz> i have NoMachine installed, but it
craps out for remote access, works for local though
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1834 [18:17:35] <watchcat> depends on your needs.
speed/flexibility tradeoff for gui. i'd only use vnc if i had a
specific need foe it.
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1836 [18:18:14] <scatterbrainz> can we chat in pvt?
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1838 [18:19:15] <watchcat> sorry, no.
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1840 [18:19:39] <scatterbrainz> ok.....
1841 [18:19:39] <scatterbrainz> ;)
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1848 [18:22:55] <jelly> scatterbrainz: remote ssh is a single
command away. "apt install ssh" on the server
1849 [18:23:12] <jelly> or "apt install openssh-server"
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1851 [18:23:14] <scatterbrainz> thanks jelly,
1852 [18:23:35] <spectralthief> hey, does aptitude has an
equivalent for "apt --fix-broken install"?
1853 [18:23:42] <spectralthief> the --fix-broken options
isn't recognized
1854 [18:23:52] <spectralthief> option*
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1856 [18:23:55] <scatterbrainz> jellY; already running
1857 [18:24:02] <jelly> spectralthief: replace that -/dev/null
with ~
1858 [18:24:15] <rblss-fsf> anyone know of a way to permanently
keep the side bar in the default desktop enviornment of debian on
the side instead of having to click activities each time
1859 [18:24:19] <scatterbrainz> so how do I connect remotely from
mac terminal to debian
1860 [18:24:26] <scatterbrainz> i dunno command
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1863 [18:24:44] <jelly> spectralthief: aptitude has a -f yes,
I'd have to RTFM to see the long option equivalent
1864 [18:24:46] <scatterbrainz> ssh user@host?
1865 [18:24:48] <rblss-fsf> scatterbrainz: do you want to do it
ssh?
1866 [18:24:55] <scatterbrainz> yes
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1868 [18:25:00] <scatterbrainz> secure is good :)
1869 [18:25:08] <scatterbrainz> i can do it locally via NoMachine
1870 [18:25:10] <scatterbrainz> but not remotely
1871 [18:25:10] <rblss-fsf> is the debian one setup with an ssh
server?
1872 [18:25:15] <scatterbrainz> yes
1873 [18:25:29] <rblss-fsf> then yes, ssh user@host
1874 [18:25:32] <scatterbrainz> openssh-server is already the
newest eversion (1:7.4pl....)
1875 [18:25:42] <rblss-fsf> or host may need to be the ip address
1876 [18:25:43] <jelly> scatterbrainz: or just "ssh
host" if the usernames are the same
1877 [18:25:56] <spectralthief> thanks jelly
1878 [18:26:20] <scatterbrainz> could not resolve hostname host:
nodenam nor servame provided, or not known
1879 [18:26:23] <scatterbrainz> << mac term.
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1881 [18:26:37] <rblss-fsf> try ssh ipaddress
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1883 [18:27:04] <jelly> scatterbrainz: I am assuming you have name
resolving set up correctly and your ssh server is reachable from the
ssh client.
1884 [18:27:13] <scatterbrainz> the local address or the public
address?
1885 [18:27:25] <rblss-fsf> are they on the same network?
1886 [18:27:32] <jelly> scatterbrainz: the one address that the
ssh client can reach
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1889 [18:28:20] <scatterbrainz> Host Key verification failed.
1890 [18:28:21] <watchcat> also, make sure you gave port 22 open
for incoming, on the host.
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1892 [18:28:34] <watchcat> have*
1893 [18:28:46] <scatterbrainz> wooT
1894 [18:28:51] <scatterbrainz> weirdness
1895 [18:28:53] <scatterbrainz> LOLOL
1896 [18:28:56] <scatterbrainz> that's f'd up
1897 [18:29:09] <petn-randall> !lol
1898 [18:29:10] <dpkg> If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or
bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you
look like an AOL user.
1899 [18:29:22] <scatterbrainz> i can go out, and come back into
my modem and route to my linux box, but I can't go llocally
hahahahaha
1900 [18:29:39] <scatterbrainz> i'm in !
1901 [18:29:42] <scatterbrainz> woooooooohoooo
1902 [18:29:46] <scatterbrainz> tyvm
1903 [18:29:48] <scatterbrainz> beer anyone?
1904 [18:29:54] <scatterbrainz> (actually its belgian ale)
1905 [18:29:54] <scatterbrainz> :)
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1908 [18:31:20] <jelly> !win scatterbrainz
1909 [18:31:20] <dpkg> Congratulations, scatterbrainz! You have
won a one way ticket to Charlotte, North Carolina ... YeeHaw!!
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1911 [18:31:35] <scatterbrainz> crap
1912 [18:31:45] <scatterbrainz> couldn't I go to Savannah Ga,
instead?
1913 [18:31:50] <annadane> that's oddly specific
1914 [18:31:50] <scatterbrainz> hahhahaha
1915 [18:32:06] <annadane> i guess it just picks a random city
name
1916 [18:32:07] <scatterbrainz> is this wrong room to ask about
apache and sql and all that stuff
1917 [18:32:11] <annadane> no
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1919 [18:32:18] <f-a> hello. Using xorg, how can I remap ú
(type as "M-u" on my keyboard) to ŭ?
1920 [18:32:30] <scatterbrainz> anna: i've driven most of the
USA in an 18 wheeler
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1923 [18:32:51] <jelly> scatterbrainz: if there's a better
place to ask I'm sure someone is going to point you in the
right direction
1924 [18:32:57] <scatterbrainz> Savannah always captured a certain
je ne sais que
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1926 [18:33:13] <scatterbrainz> well what I'm wondering is.
1927 [18:33:23] <scatterbrainz> i have apache2 installed and
running
1928 [18:33:29] <jelly> in general this channel tries to handle
tech support issues that arise on Debian installations
1929 [18:33:31] <scatterbrainz> but not everything would sit on
ONE server would it?
1930 [18:33:47] <jelly> everything?
1931 [18:34:02] <scatterbrainz> well for example
1932 [18:34:07] <jelly> !enter
1933 [18:34:07] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for
punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to
follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '.
', ';', '...', '---', or
':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be
autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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1936 [18:34:43] <scatterbrainz> if I wanted a server just for
website development, another for portfolios, and another for sql to
sit on, is that all on ONE server or am I making virtual servers?
1937 [18:34:46] <rblss-fsf> scatterbrainz: two questions for you
1. if you are ssh'ing to your external ip address and not your
internal one, please make sure you have a stricter security policy
in place (like stronger passwords and max of attempts)
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1941 [18:35:19] <scatterbrainz> rblss: i used my
'public' ip address
1942 [18:35:24] <jelly> scatterbrainz: both options might make
sense, depending on your needs, your budget and your knowledge
1943 [18:35:28] <cluelessperson> sup all. I'm trying to
remove a drive from a server
1944 [18:35:33] <scatterbrainz> which is forwarded to the debian
box.
1945 [18:35:41] <scatterbrainz> in my internet modem .
1946 [18:35:44] <cluelessperson> mdadm --fail /dev/md0 /dev/sdh1
-> Device or resource busy.
1947 [18:35:53] <cluelessperson> lsof | grep /dev/sdh ->
nothing
1948 [18:35:59] <cluelessperson> mount | grep sdh -> nothing
1949 [18:36:02] <cluelessperson> wtf
1950 [18:36:16] <scatterbrainz> i have no idea clp
1951 [18:36:22] <scatterbrainz> is thtat your machine
1952 [18:36:26] <cluelessperson> mdadm --fail /dev/mdo --force
/dev/sdh1 -> Device or resource busy.
1953 [18:36:27] <cluelessperson> yes
1954 [18:36:41] <jelly> cluelessperson: pastebin your "cat
/proc/mdstat" and "ls -l /dev/sdh1 /dev/sd?" and last
200 lines of dmesg, all in the same paste
1955 [18:36:42] <cluelessperson> it's an old raid1 drive I
removed all the content from.
1956 [18:36:44] <scatterbrainz> sounds like your raid crapped out
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1958 [18:37:19] <jelly> !paste
1959 [18:37:20] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
1960 [18:37:37] <jelly> there's WAY too little info to say
"raid crapped out"
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1962 [18:38:30] <jelly> cluelessperson: and "lsblk"
while you're there
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1978 [18:45:08] <JyZyXEL> cluelessperson: don't know if it
makes any difference, but <raiddevice> should precede
<options> and <component-devices> according to the
syntax in the manual
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1980 [18:48:09] <cluelessperson> JyZyXEL: jelly
replaced-url
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1988 [18:50:20] <JyZyXEL> you are trying to --fail the last active
device while the array is active. what do you expect?
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1992 [18:52:53] <cluelessperson> JyZyXEL: for it to say that
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1996 [18:53:13] <cluelessperson> JyZyXEL: mdadm --stop /dev/md0
says resource is busy
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2005 [18:56:53] <JyZyXEL> try finding out what is still using
/dev/md0?
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2013 [18:58:25] <cluelessperson> JyZyXEL: nothing is
2014 [18:58:33] <cluelessperson> lsof | grep md0 nothing
2015 [18:58:40] <cluelessperson> mount | grep md0 nothing
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2018 [18:59:15] <JyZyXEL> anything strange in dmesg that could
indicate the kernel is still using it?
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2023 [18:59:41] <cluelessperson> JyZyXEL: not as far as I can tell
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2027 [19:01:36] <mandeep> how does one stop wifi from
disconnecting when the laptop goes to sleep? is this possible?
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2035 [19:03:26] <cluelessperson> mandeep: why?
2036 [19:03:46] <mandeep> cluelessperson: so that i can close my
laptop lid and still have irc connected ;)
2037 [19:04:06] <jelly> cluelessperson: your web site hostname has
an AAAA record but does not answer on https port there
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2039 [19:04:42] <cluelessperson> mandeep: it'll still
disconnect because the processes will be paused/stopped
2040 [19:04:50] <mandeep> cluelessperson: actually i just answered
my own question. i forgot power options were set incorrectly
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2045 [19:06:16] <jelly> mandeep: irc servers usually employ an
inband unresponsive client detection (irc "PING" command)
and will disconnect a client that does not respond, even if the tcp
session should still be kepy alive
2046 [19:06:40] <mandeep> jelly: i see
2047 [19:07:10] <jelly> find a stable always-on machine and set up
an irc-specific or client-specific proxy
2048 [19:07:23] <jelly> ,info znc
2049 [19:07:26] <judd> Package znc (net, optional) in
stretch/amd64: advanced modular IRC bouncer. Version:
1.6.5-1+deb9u1; Size: 1418.4k; Installed: 5240k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2051 [19:07:59] <jelly> weechat has its own client-specific thing
if you use that
2052 [19:08:00] <mandeep> jelly: awesome thanks :)
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2054 [19:08:10] <mandeep> im using hexchat
2055 [19:08:35] <jelly> I have three different machines with
hexchat (not always) connected to my znc
2056 [19:08:41] <jokoon> hello, I just installed debian on the
windows linux subsystem, can I ask questions about it here, for
starters, how can I install python? why are there so many package
missing with apt install?
2057 [19:08:58] <mandeep> jelly: cool. i'll give znc a try
2058 [19:09:10] <cluelessperson> jelly: I'm confused, it
answers 80/443 for me at the ipv6 address
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2060 [19:09:13] <JyZyXEL> cluelessperson: i guess you could also
check ps aux for processes still accessing any md0 backed stuff or
if there are any zombie processes
2061 [19:09:24] <annadane> !wsl
2062 [19:09:24] <dpkg>
replaced-url
2063 [19:09:28] <annadane> jokoon, ^
2064 [19:10:03] <jelly> cluelessperson: my
2a02:e00:ffff:56:ffff:ffff:ad6:5797/64 does not seem to reach...
Connecting to cluelessperson.com
(cluelessperson.com)|2604:4080:1326:83c5:10a5:90ff:fe11:6223|:443...
failed: Connection timed out.
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2067 [19:11:02] <jelly> cluelessperson: is that really the whole
lsblk output?
2068 [19:11:12] <jelly> and where's /dev/sd?
2069 [19:11:18] <jelly> "/dev/sd?" ? :-)
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2072 [19:12:11] <cluelessperson> jelly: there are other drives and
loops in existence
2073 [19:12:16] <cluelessperson> none that relate to ,md0
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2079 [19:14:01] <jelly> okay, but I asked for everything
2080 [19:14:53] <jelly> and dmesg, too
2081 [19:14:55] <cluelessperson> jelly: a full list of other
drives on the system doesn't matter
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2083 [19:15:10] <cluelessperson> jelly: message shows a
rebuild/check of the raid earlier, but nothing related to it
otherwise.
2084 [19:15:14] <cluelessperson> dmesg
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2089 [19:16:20] <jelly> okay. I don't like providing help
with filtered out info though, so I'll let other people
comment.
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2091 [19:16:51] <jelly> cluelessperson: you might also try asking
in #linux-raid if you don't solve things here
2092 [19:16:57] <cluelessperson> jelly: there's nothing
relevant filtered out
2093 [19:17:50] <jokoon> thanks
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2106 [19:24:11] <SPF> hmm, strange, one interface has 40 alias ip
addresses, how can this happen?
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2108 [19:24:31] <jelly> someone configured it that way
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2110 [19:24:55] <SPF> as far as I know, I only configured one
2111 [19:25:26] <jelly> don't turn around. There's noone
behind.
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2113 [19:27:08] <SPF> / is mounted ro
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2119 [19:30:57] <SPF> oh... kernel panic and corrupted inodes,
that explains it
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2125 [19:34:33] <jelly> a kernel does not merely trip and
accidentally configure a zillion addresses on an iface
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2127 [19:35:12] <SPF> what about a corrupted kernel?
2128 [19:36:07] <SPF> I don't have a script that could cause
this
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2130 [19:36:47] <jelly> it seems extremely unlikely
2131 [19:37:01] <jelly> possible, but extremely unlikely
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2133 [19:38:10] <SPF> well, I need to reinstall it anyway. I
can't get further than busybox & e2fsck
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2229 [20:26:19] <n_1-c_k> By some magic I don't understand,
Debian provides an ssl cert 'ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem'. I
think the name indicates that it's unsigned by any CA. Is there
any reason not to use it for a TLSA record for DANE?
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2232 [20:29:18] <openfire> The name indicates that it
shouldn't be used at all.
2233 [20:29:55] <n_1-c_k> openfire: oh! Why not?
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2236 [20:30:57] <openfire> Well, let me ask this. Is this on a
system where you installed Debian yourself?
2237 [20:31:08] <openfire> Or is this on some cloud server that
was instantiated from a template?
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2243 [20:32:45] <n_1-c_k> openfire: hmm... if I rememember right,
I installed from a debian image, provide by the hoster. Is that
option 2?
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2245 [20:33:03] <openfire> n_1-c_k: That is option 2. There is no
guarantee that every other template doesn't use the same
snakeoil cert.
2246 [20:33:32] <n_1-c_k> openfire: ah I see, thanks. So I should
make my own then?
2247 [20:33:52] <openfire> Do you have the 'ssl-cert'
package installed?
2248 [20:34:16] <n_1-c_k> I don't.
2249 [20:34:35] <openfire> Ah. Install that package, and then run:
make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil --force-overwrite
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2251 [20:35:00] <openfire> It'll generate a unique
certificate that you can use. Just understand the security
implications of using an unsigned certificate.
2252 [20:35:11] <n_1-c_k> oh sorry, my mistake, too many dashes. I
do have it. But I'll follow your direction. Thanks!
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2255 [20:35:59] <openfire> Then just run that command, yeah.
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2257 [20:36:53] <n_1-c_k> openfire: righto, thanks.
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2260 [20:40:15] <hansol> heho
2261 [20:40:40] <hansol> what is best distribution from Debian to
install Jessie or Stretch
2262 [20:40:51] <openfire> Stretch is the current stable release.
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2268 [20:42:43] <annadane> stretch.
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2277 [20:44:51] <SPF> I'm installing debian from usb pen
drive, and now the installer is asking me to insert the cdrom into
/media/cdrom but I dont have a cdrom drive
2278 [20:45:19] <openfire> How did you write the ISO to the USB
stick?
2279 [20:45:22] <hansol> from where i can download debian 9 ?
2280 [20:45:46] <SPF> sudo cp debian.iso /dev/sdb;sudo sync
2281 [20:45:51] <openfire> hansol: I assume your search engine of
choice is down?
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2283 [20:47:11] <hansol> what is difference between cd and dvd ?
2284 [20:47:22] <hansol> btw, i dont have flash drive more than 4
GB
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2286 [20:47:52] <hansol> if i install cd, when i update system
will have difference between DVD ?
2287 [20:48:31] <SPF> hansol: you can install with netinst, which
is small and will get software via network during installation
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2289 [20:48:43] <SPF> hansol: if you have the dvd, then everything
will be installed from dvd as source
2290 [20:49:05] <openfire> hansol: All of this is detailed on
Debian's website.
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2292 [20:49:25] <SPF> openfire: should I become root first before
copying iso?
2293 [20:49:49] <openfire> SPF: sudo would do that already.
2294 [20:50:04] <SPF> yes, that't what I thought as well
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2298 [20:50:34] <SPF> I have installed debian many times, and I
have had this problem before
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2300 [20:50:49] <openfire> Generally, it's due to the ISO
being written incorrectly.
2301 [20:50:58] <hansol> my processor is intel i7 what release i
should dl ?
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2304 [20:51:04] <openfire> I'd checksum-verify the ISO and
write it to the USB stick again.
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2306 [20:52:10] <hansol> i386 ?
2307 [20:52:18] <hansol> OR AMD64
2308 [20:52:23] <openfire> hansol: Do you have a 32-bit or 64-bit
CPU?
2309 [20:52:32] <hansol> i have 64 bit CPU
2310 [20:52:41] <openfire> hansol: Then that would be your answer.
2311 [20:52:54] <hansol> amd64 ?
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2315 [20:53:53] <at0m> hansol: indeed, amd64
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2346 [21:12:26] <SPF> openfire: is it possible to verify the usb
pen drive after copying the iso onto it? because now I get the
message at the beginning of the installation
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2348 [21:13:13] <joepublic> a handy tip: if you used unetbootin,
your pen drive probably will not work properly
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2361 [21:21:48] <SPF> strange, I put it in a different usb port
and now I dont have this message
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2466 [22:39:22] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys i made a post on the
forums regardin a problem i have seting up nvidia drivers. could
anyone check it out
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2513 [23:09:27] <at0m> InvisibleRasta: no idea regarding your
problem, but ouch are you getting rude reply :(
2514 [23:09:35] <Resilience> a little off-topic, how can I run
lsof with a pid?
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2520 [23:13:42] <at0m> InvisibleRasta: can you get lightdm to run
without the nvidia drivers? i would purge anything nvidia, and try
to get your X up and running first, and then go from there
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2532 [23:22:09] <cinch> lsof -p 123
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