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82 [01:19:49] <RoyK> hrmf
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84 [01:20:14] <RoyK> nfs works, but even with sec=sys gives me
an access denied
85 [01:23:22] <zerocool> if i `service php-fpm restart` will it
jack up the webserver
86 [01:23:28] <zerocool> like in the middle of the day
87 [01:23:34] <zerocool> or will anyone even notice
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89 [01:25:03] <zerocool> the answer is nobody will notice :)
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188 [03:34:05] <RoyK> Anyone that knows how I can make nfs work
with sec=sys? the uid/gid matches, it's exported with sec=sys,
but I still get access denied from the client, and I really
can't understand why. I've setup this before, several
times, but I really can't understand what's wrong here.
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216 [04:04:08] <jello> anyone seen this error before when doing
an apt-get update: W: GPG error:
replaced-url
217 [04:04:16] <jello> W: The repository 'replaced-url
218 [04:04:19] <jello> N: Data from such a repository can't
be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
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222 [04:08:03] <somiaj> jello: in the future please don't
cross post.
223 [04:09:06] <somiaj> espically when someone is in the middle
of helping, as users here may not have seen what has been tried or
not so far.
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226 [04:10:18] <hans__> any idea what this is about?
replaced-url
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229 [04:20:30] <RoyK> hans__: looks like an OOPS
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232 [04:20:39] <RoyK> that is - a panic light
233 [04:20:51] <hans__> wasn't that light, it took the whole
system down with it
234 [04:20:58] <hans__> or perhaps something that came right
after it
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236 [04:21:19] <RoyK> if it happens often, run a memory test
237 [04:21:29] <hans__> first time
238 [04:21:31] <RoyK>
replaced-url
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240 [04:21:40] <RoyK> hans__: good luck :)
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243 [04:22:10] <RoyK> might have been a panic too
244 [04:22:15] <RoyK> can't see the whole thing
245 [04:22:24] <RoyK> a panic is like windows' bluescreen
246 [04:22:35] <RoyK> not very nice
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248 [04:23:17] <hans__> system is rebooted now, where would the
logs go?
249 [04:23:29] <RoyK> the usual places
250 [04:23:39] <RoyK> but you don't always get logs from
panics
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252 [04:24:10] <RoyK> you can set kernel.panic = 10 or something
(man sysctl) to have it automatically reboot after a panic
253 [04:24:43] <RoyK> if the panic isn't I/O related, you
may get one, though
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255 [04:24:51] <RoyK> as in /var/log/syslog
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258 [04:26:40] <hans__> seems i didn't get anything in the
syslog,
replaced-url
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261 [04:29:54] <RoyK> hans__: sometimes you need to setup a
netconsole to catch those - or a serial console if you're doing
it the old way
262 [04:30:29] <hans__> i don't have physical access to the
comp, i guess that rules out the serial console
263 [04:30:31] <RoyK> but then - a single bitflip can create
havoc, so no problem, really, unless it happens again
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265 [04:30:52] <RoyK> serial console, then, but again, leave it
for now
266 [04:31:04] <hans__> if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/ram
267 [04:31:09] <sadtaco> I'm trying to install
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268 [04:31:12] <RoyK> just set kernel.panic to something usefil
269 [04:31:18] <RoyK> hans__: don't do that
270 [04:31:23] <hans__> oh really?
271 [04:31:31] <RoyK> ;)
272 [04:31:33] <hans__> din't do that? you sure?
273 [04:31:37] <hans__> dofergi
274 [04:31:44] <hans__> i need sleep, gnight guys
275 [04:32:07] <sadtaco> nvm forgot to run apt-get update after
adding backports to sources.list
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277 [04:33:04] <somiaj> sadtaco: the guide forgot to mention you
need to add jessie-backports to your sources.list
278 [04:33:29] <sadtaco> Yeah I figured it did. It's kind of
self explanatory. But, oops forgot to update after doing that
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285 [04:40:44] <RoyK> for fuck's sake - I can't get it
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the same uid/gid - no - access denied - even if sec=sys
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372 [06:54:45] <gubernator> Hi Debian. The kernel in stretch does
not support my Intel wireless card 8260. How do I make the
net-installer recognize it? I do have this driver package for the
card: firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-3_all.deb, but Idon
373 [06:55:02] <gubernator> ...but I don't know how to use
that package from within the installer
374 [06:55:53] <somiaj> gubernator: there are ways to suply the
firmware to the installer on a seperate usb device. The netinstall
contains a fully functional base system and does not need the
network to install.
375 [06:56:06] <somiaj> you could install without the network,
then install firmware, then get network up, configure sources, and
finish
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377 [06:56:53] <somiaj> gubernator: you can't use it
directly from inside the isntaller, the install guide says how to
make firmware avialble to the installer. There is also a non-free
(unoffical) installer with firmware already on it if you want that
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380 [06:57:38] <gubernator> somiaj, I have done this, but it
seems the net-install loads fewer packages by default -- am I
correct?
381 [06:58:22] <somiaj> the net-installer only contains a
minimial base system. But it is more functional than the installer
and isn't to hard to get the rest of what you want
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383 [06:58:54] <somiaj> It is what you would get if you
didn't select any of the additional tasks (such as a desktop
enviroment) at the end.
384 [06:59:05] <somiaj> but the easiset method for most is just
get the unoffical firmware installer
385 [06:59:14] <somiaj> !firmware images
386 [06:59:14] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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388 [07:01:38] <gubernator> Okay, so, I want
firmware-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso from
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389 [07:02:56] <somiaj> correct, that will have the firmware on
it, and just avoid the hassle of providing it.
390 [07:05:01] <annadane> is amd64 really the only architecture
provided for by that firmware image? i recall seeing i386 in there
also
391 [07:05:26] <annadane> not that it matters, just a curiosity
392 [07:05:28] <somiaj> annadane: notice the folder, you would
have to go to other arches a few directories down
393 [07:05:46] <somiaj> or did you go to current/i386/iso-cd?
394 [07:05:59] <annadane> well i just looked at the link url
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396 [07:06:08] <annadane> but i misread it
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399 [07:06:33] <annadane> anyway, off topic fluff, ignore :)
400 [07:06:35] <somiaj> appears they have amd64, i386 and
multi-arch, no other arches though.
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402 [07:09:44] <alkisg> Which other arch needs firmware?
403 [07:10:01] <alkisg> (non free, that is)
404 [07:10:13] <annadane> well probably all of them
405 [07:11:19] <annadane> though it's not an arch
necessarily which requires firmware
406 [07:11:29] <annadane> it's highly dependent on whatever
devices you have
407 [07:11:45] <darxmurf> 'morning
408 [07:12:34] <alkisg> Yeah I was thinking about
intel/amd/cpu/graphics firmware, but sure for wifi cards the arch
doesn't matter
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410 [07:14:02] <somiaj> alkisg: its is more the wifi card that
needs firmware, which holds true for various pi like arm boards with
wifi on it. Sure other arch machines could have wifi, but maybe just
little demand to need it in the installer
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412 [07:15:56] <alkisg> pis aren't using .isos though to
boot from, they're using .img, right?
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418 [07:24:42] <somiaj> alkisg: they may also need some other
methods to make them bootable, so yea, my guess is those installing
on them don't additionally need the convience of firmware. Also
many of a broadcom chip, which I don't think is on the firmware
images.
419 [07:25:06] <somiaj> alkisg: so yea, the demand for firmware
images for other arches is probably very low at best.
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496 [08:48:51] <dcpc007> Hi, in Debian 7, which date can i take
for says when applicaition were released ? official release may 2013
or before, at the freeze date ?
497 [08:49:20] <dcpc007> i need to make a report on our servers,
and want to notice how old our "new" servers start to be
498 [08:50:00] <annadane> !snapshots
499 [08:50:00] <dpkg>
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500 [08:50:20] <annadane> dcpc007, ^
501 [08:51:26] <dcpc007> start to be boring to stay in work on
debian 7 .... and still no aswer back on my alerts ...
502 [08:51:53] <dcpc007> then not learn systemd and all new thing
since some years, really boring for me ...
503 [08:52:12] <dcpc007> and not so good to stay 5 years on a
version i think
504 [08:53:35] <dcpc007> i found this timeline;
replaced-url
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506 [08:54:14] <dcpc007> application versions are from 2013-05-04
(release) or 2012-06-30 (freeze)
507 [08:55:00] <annadane> yes, well, the current stable version
of debian is stretch, which came after jessie, which itself came
after wheezy
508 [08:55:11] <annadane> released in june 2017
509 [08:55:31] <towo^work> dcpc007, versions are from freeze
510 [08:55:43] <dcpc007> thx towo^work
511 [08:55:46] <dcpc007> outch ....
512 [08:56:17] <towo^work> except for a few exceptions
513 [08:56:37] <dcpc007> and some guys are asking to take older
versions still (like tomcat 6 to not need recode their applications
... :-( )
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515 [08:57:33] <dcpc007> i throw warning to bosses after official
annoucement of partial end of support, but no answer or feedback
516 [08:59:05] <dcpc007> start tessting unofficially upgrading D7
-> D8 on light servers with nothing complicated, not so easy, and
need to double jump i think... many impacts on house code (mysql
-> mariadb, apache 2.4, tomcat+,...)
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518 [08:59:35] <dcpc007> think they don't imagine the work
... and not started to anticipate (not sure of the word in english)
519 [08:59:38] <annadane> indeed, to go to stretch you would need
to first move to jessie, and then to stretch
520 [08:59:45] <dcpc007> yes i've seen
521 [09:00:02] <dcpc007> upgrade guides and procedures are
printed since monthes ...
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524 [09:00:29] <annadane> i'm not sure if there's even
release notes for jessie still around
525 [09:00:39] <dcpc007> i would try mysself before doing work on
real servers ... as some admin task changes with systemd mainly ...
526 [09:01:24] <dcpc007> but i stop as i have no news or planning
for those tasks ... why try learn something you'll not use
until ... later and forget most
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528 [09:01:54] <dcpc007> boring to not found other jobs near of
my house :-(
529 [09:02:09] <dcpc007> start to think leave this one
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531 [09:03:02] <annadane> if you haven't seen it already,
the debian administrator handbook gives good guidelines for large
scale migrations (though it's written for jessie and slightly
out of date but the general overview is fine)
532 [09:03:36] <annadane> if you combine that with the debian 9
release notes - which indicates differences from jessie -
you'll have a comprehensive picture
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539 [09:12:18] <dcpc007> yes already read a little
540 [09:12:37] <annadane> i'm going to sleep, have a nice
evening
541 [09:13:13] <dcpc007> start to be boring to read obsolete when
i try to find a solution on my problems ... currently
"playing" with samba and windows 7 + windows 10 ... all
docs says to not use samba v3 ... debian 7 is 3.6.6...
542 [09:13:22] <dcpc007> lol moring here :)
543 [09:13:27] <dcpc007> good night, and thx
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561 [09:40:26] <dcpc007> another qestuon on apt, could
apt-cacher-ng block packages changelog on client servers ?
562 [09:40:28] <jelly> dcpc007: yes, debian 7 is rather old
563 [09:41:01] <jelly> ,v samba
564 [09:41:02] <judd> Package: samba on amd64 -- wheezy:
2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u15;
wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie:
2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u9; jessie-security: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u9;
stretch: 2:4.5.12+dfsg-2+deb9u1; stretch-security:
2:4.5.12+dfsg-2+deb9u1; buster: 2:4.7.4+dfsg-1; sid: 2:4.7.4+dfsg-1
565 [09:41:09] <dcpc007> i try to look at the content of pending
patch, but got errors via aptitude behind apt-cacher-ng
566 [09:41:39] <dcpc007> yes, i've seen ... but this server
"should" die in one year ... and no upgrade of code
possible
567 [09:41:47] <jelly> there's 4.1 in wheezy-backports (no
security updates)
568 [09:41:52] <dcpc007> and not sure that this old samba is the
problem ...
569 [09:42:16] <dcpc007> then can't force to upgrade
570 [09:42:35] <dcpc007> think i'll finish to put beck their
ugly config with no access control ...
571 [09:43:06] <jelly> you're in luck. wheezy will lose
security support by LTS team in like 3-4 months, then you'll
have no security updates for ANY component
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574 [09:44:10] <dcpc007> lol ... what is the problem ... 3 yaers
i ask for a patch apply campain ...
575 [09:44:32] <dcpc007> think they will not bother to live with
no "new" patch ...
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580 [09:54:26] <dcpc007> does all patchs available have a
changelog ?
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584 [09:54:54] <dcpc007> if yes, i should have always a changelog
available ...
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659 [11:18:31] <ebarrett> apt-get has got itself into a mess
660 [11:18:35] <ebarrett> xorg-dev : Depends: xserver-xorg-dev
but it is not going to be installed
661 [11:18:44] <ebarrett> no held packages, no broken packages
662 [11:18:47] <ebarrett> i'm confused
663 [11:19:00] <ebarrett> it's like it forgot how to install
dependencies
664 [11:19:52] <alkisg> ebarrett: apt policy xserver-xorg-dev
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666 [11:20:34] <oo_miguel> I have a Corsair STRAFE Gaming
Keyboard and it works fine for most of the time. but once in a while
it does NOT work after I start my computer. I have to disconnect and
reconnect the USB cable to let it work. Any idea how to possibly fix
this?
667 [11:20:46] <ebarrett> alkisg: E: Invalid operation policy
668 [11:21:02] <alkisg> ebarrett: eh, you have older version,
apt-cache policy then
669 [11:21:04] <ebarrett> (this is debian 8, in case that is
important)
670 [11:21:10] <ebarrett> ah, yes
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673 [11:22:59] <ebarrett> alkisg: ok, that prints some stuff
674 [11:23:02] <ebarrett>
replaced-url
675 [11:23:28] <ebarrett> nothing looks out of place here
676 [11:23:40] <alkisg> ebarrett: indeed, now try installing that
one
677 [11:24:00] <alkisg> apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
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682 [11:25:36] <ebarrett> alkisg:
replaced-url
683 [11:25:39] <ebarrett> this is weird
684 [11:26:15] <ebarrett> fwiw, all I did WRT apt on this system
is add contrib and backports, and install some stuff
685 [11:26:15] <alkisg> ebarrett: nah, it's just that you
got some version mismatch either locally or from a non-debian
repository,
686 [11:26:30] <ebarrett> maybe one of the repos is busted then?
687 [11:26:44] <alkisg> apt is a little cryptic there, aptitude
is a lot more verbose,
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689 [11:27:06] <ebarrett> worth a shot
690 [11:27:17] <alkisg> so to avoid having to "apt install
mesa-common-dev" etc until we get to the actual problem, yeah,
try installing aptitude to see it messages
691 [11:27:25] <alkisg> It'll pinpoint the package, and then
you can even remove aptitude
692 [11:27:26] <antoszka> Hi there, I want to upgrade certain
packages on a number of hosts, but these packages pull in a newer
glibc and I get two interactive questions: 1) do you want to restart
services 2) later I get a curses-based selector asking *which*
services to restart. Since I want to script this across tens of
hosts, how do I have apt do everything without asking?
693 [11:28:19] <ebarrett> alkisg: you are right
694 [11:28:35] <ebarrett>
replaced-url
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696 [11:28:58] <ebarrett> cryptic, but at least throws me a clue
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698 [11:30:03] <alkisg> ebarrett: so, some backports
"conflict" with some of the dev packages.You can also try
`aptitude install xorg-dev`, and not accept the first solution, but
accept one that fits you
699 [11:30:06] <ebarrett> the proposed solution is a no op
700 [11:30:19] <alkisg> If you say "no", it proposes
another one
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703 [11:30:57] <alkisg> Or you can manually install the versions
that are needed, e.g. sudo apt-get install libdrm2=2.4.58-2
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705 [11:31:16] <ebarrett> i see
706 [11:31:23] <ebarrett> i have a feeling i'm not going to
win here
707 [11:32:14] <ebarrett> it's downgrading some stuff to old
stable...
708 [11:32:33] <ebarrett> alkisg: thanks for your help
709 [11:32:49] <alkisg> np. Yeah, the problem solution is to
install the previous versions, the ones mentioned in
replaced-url
710 [11:33:14] <alkisg> Either with aptitude or manually
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737 [11:53:05] <shtrb> ,v cryptsetup
738 [11:53:06] <judd> Package: cryptsetup on amd64 -- wheezy:
2:1.4.3-4; wheezy-backports: 2:1.6.4-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:1.6.6-5;
stretch: 2:1.7.3-4; buster: 2:1.7.5-1; sid: 2:2.0.0-1
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741 [11:54:34] <shtrb> how do I get a list of judd's plugins
?
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744 [11:56:23] <mrtnt> Is there a way to execute a script only
once when the new user logs in(over SSH) first time?
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746 [11:56:43] <shtrb> like in profile ?
747 [11:57:20] <mrtnt> shtrb: .profile should be started each
time?
748 [11:57:51] <RoyK> mrtnt: what do you want to do in this
script?
749 [11:58:15] <shtrb> in /etc/profiled.d/ but that may be used
(for all scripts), you can also use ~/.local/share/systemd/user
services
750 [11:58:41] <shtrb> *used for all users
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755 [12:01:09] <mrtnt> RoyK: I want to execute
google-authenticator one time when new user logs in over SSH
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765 [12:07:00] <RoyK> mrtnt: ok - not sure, sorry. guess you may
need a custom PAM plugin
766 [12:08:09] <shtrb> I missed the part between my comment and
yours, what have mrtnt have said ?
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770 [12:10:21] <mrtnt> shtrb: I said that I want to execute
google-authenticator one time when new user logs in over SSH
771 [12:10:35] <shtrb> oh , there is a pam module for that :)
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779 [12:14:41] <shtrb> also ,
replaced-url
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782 [12:15:31] <shtrb> sorry ,
replaced-url
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792 [12:26:51] <RoyK> shtrb: for use only on first login, like he
said?
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803 [12:35:14] <shtrb> I missread the manual, I thought you can
use directly the google-authenticator to perform the auth (that way
it can be tied with systemd script to perform only once while the
user is logged in )
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808 [12:38:13] <shtrb> mrtnt, Instead of using a pam module
(which may prevent auth) , you can tie a script using onetime
service and keep it running
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834 [13:03:47] <Iridos> mrtnt, that's not how
google-authenticator works…
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836 [13:04:36] <metastable> I think we're referring to the
google-authenticator command to configure the user's token, not
the actual authentication step.
837 [13:04:54] <Iridos> oh, that would make a lot more sense
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842 [13:06:58] <Iridos> then you can just put something like that
in .profile: if [[ ! -f $HOME/.google_authenticator ]]; then
/usr/bin/google-authenticator ; fi
843 [13:07:34] <Iridos> probably should also check that it's
an interactive shell… I guess
844 [13:08:01] <antoszka> BTW, if anyone's interested the
answer to my earlier question was:
"DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install
<foo>"
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852 [13:10:22] <Iridos> why not apt-get -y … ?
853 [13:10:27] <Iridos> Because of the later choice?
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863 [13:18:49] <eugenmayer> is it to assume that debian stretch
does include LetsEncrypt CAs with ca-certificates?
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867 [13:21:37] <metastable> Given that LE's CAs are only
intermediates signed by an external root CA that is included with
ca-certificates as far as I know, yes.
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869 [13:21:58] <metastable> Yup, there it is. DST_Root_CA_X3.pem
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883 [13:30:34] <hexhaxtron> Hi! I'm running ./burstminer and
sometimes it outputs "unable to connect to remote host".
When this happens, how can I kill burstminer and start it again?
884 [13:30:58] <webmind> killall burstminer
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887 [13:32:44] <antoszka> Iridos: Yes.
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896 [13:33:16] <antoszka> Iridos: You just get hung apt processes
if you do it without a terminal (as in: ssh <host> sh -c
"apt ...")
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904 [13:37:22] <qifan> hi
905 [13:37:23] <qifan> :>
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907 [13:37:46] <qifan> Howdo i install gps location under gnome
stretch ?
908 [13:37:51] <qifan> in status bar
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916 [13:42:20] <eugenmayer> metastable: thanks!
917 [13:42:31] <eugenmayer> so DST_Root_CA_X3 is the one in
charge here.
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921 [13:44:12] <eugenmayer> metastable: my go client works under
osx but not under debian stretch, fairly odd
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925 [13:46:33] <skbohra> hi everyone
926 [13:47:01] <skbohra> somehow, debian.cnf file on a debian
setup got corrupted
927 [13:47:33] <skbohra> I couldn't find any way to get it
generated again
928 [13:47:59] <somiaj> give more details, where is this
debian.cnf file located?
929 [13:48:14] <somiaj> the only one I'm finding is part of
tex-common
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931 [13:48:34] <skbohra> it is part of mysql setup
932 [13:48:41] <skbohra> it's in /etc/mysql/
933 [13:48:46] <somiaj> what version of debian?
934 [13:49:19] <Iridos> antoszka, that's not what man
apt-get says, though
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936 [13:50:12] <skbohra> jessie
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938 [13:50:39] <antoszka> Iridos: Dunno, works for me.
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940 [13:51:02] <somiaj> skbohra: what does dpkg -S debian.cnf
return?
941 [13:51:25] <somiaj> skbohra: you might be able to reinstall,
or purge and then reinstall the package to get the stock version of
that file again.
942 [13:52:12] <skbohra> it contains a password for a user
debian-sys-maint
943 [13:52:16] <petn-randall> !confmiss
944 [13:52:16] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging
system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is
assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall
$packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the
package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about
<ucf confmiss>.
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946 [13:52:21] <petn-randall> skbohra: ^^^
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948 [13:52:57] <somiaj> yea looks like a conf file, you might
have to reinstall the package as petn-randall suggested to get apt
to regenerate that file
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950 [13:53:27] <skbohra> somiaj: i think it contains a randomly
generated passsword of a user debian-sys-maint
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952 [13:54:07] <somiaj> I'm unsure exactly what it contains,
others might know, I was just suggesting one way to regenerate conf
files is to reinstall.
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954 [13:54:54] <skbohra>
replaced-url
955 [13:55:07] <skbohra> let me try it
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975 [14:12:52] <zomaar> Is there any way to set the domain other
than by DHCP or adding to /etc/hosts?
976 [14:13:34] <petn-randall> !xy problem
977 [14:13:34] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
978 [14:13:47] <petn-randall> zomaar: Yes, but it sounds like a
XY problem to me. ^^^
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980 [14:15:41] <zomaar> ...
981 [14:16:01] <zomaar> Way to make things more difficult
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983 [14:17:47] <zomaar> I guess you can set it with hostname as
well but it basically says that the persistent way is hosts
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985 [14:18:50] <jer0me> I get lots of
"console-kit-daemon[1464]: console-kit-daemon[1464]:
GLib-CRITICAL: Source ID 380337 was not found when attempting to
remove it" and "udev-acl.ck[23696]: g_slice_set_config:
assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed"
986 [14:18:54] <jer0me> whoops
987 [14:19:00] <zomaar> The objective, if you want to know, is to
let Apache stop complaining
988 [14:19:11] <jer0me> errors in logs, I can't trace that
back to anything easily.
989 [14:19:30] <jer0me> any idea where this could come from?
maybe a libc update and no reboot after?
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994 [14:28:42] <nixoeen> Anyone is interested in sponsoring a
package? :)
replaced-url
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998 [14:30:50] <jelly> zomaar: how precisely is apache
complaining, and is there a reason you don't want to add a FQDN
entry into /etc/hosts?
999 [14:31:02] <jelly> !mentors
1000 [14:31:02] <dpkg> mentors is, like, the system the Debian
project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or
Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive.
Ask me about <nmg>.
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1001 [14:31:37] <jelly> nixoeen: ^^ ask there, maybe (mind you,
different irc network, this is freenode and -mentors is on
irc.oftc.net)
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1003 [14:32:13] <nixoeen> jelly, Thanks :)
1004 [14:32:31] <zomaar> jelly: No actually my complete question
would have been: is there a more atomic file other than /etc/hosts
that records or sets the domain
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1008 [14:32:53] <zomaar> jelly: There is no issue with /etc/hosts,
I was just wondering if there was a direct equivalent to
/etc/hostname
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1020 [14:40:30] <petn-randall> zomaar: So, what is apache
complaining about?
1021 [14:40:31] <codingquark> My system cannot find wrapfig.sty.
Is there any other way than installing texlive-latex-extra?
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1023 [14:40:54] <petn-randall> ,file wrapfig.sty
1024 [14:40:59] <judd> Search for wrapfig.sty in stretch/amd64:
texlive-latex-extra:
usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/wrapfig/wrapfig.sty
1025 [14:41:19] <petn-randall> codingquark: Seems as though
it's only shipped there.
1026 [14:41:33] <codingquark> petn-randall: okay, thanks :)
1027 [14:41:40] <codingquark> Time to download ~400MB
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1040 [14:54:16] <SanchoPensa> hey guys!
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1045 [14:57:12] <SanchoPensa> i was looking to record some streams
from some news streams, in order to take those politician speeches
apart frame by frame. that is, in order to examine their facial
micro expressions in correspondence with their words. for that
purpose, i installed recordmydesktop, but that one produces an ogg
file with not such a good quality, although set to highest, and
although it has an option "save every frame" those frames
aren't recooperable afterw
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1047 [14:57:50] <SanchoPensa> missing even...
1048 [14:59:06] <frostschutz> SanchoPensa, find a way to save the
original unaltered stream, not a recording of it that's silly
1049 [14:59:32] <SanchoPensa> frostschutz: danke, exactly, what i
thouhgt, but how to??
1050 [15:00:21] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: unless these streams are
DRM'ed you'd be better off download the actual stream
1051 [15:00:31] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: ok how are you watching the
stream currently? in a browser?
1052 [15:01:05] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: yep, agree, i thouhgt of that
too, unfortunately no download version available.
1053 [15:01:09] <SanchoPensa> and yes, browser.
1054 [15:01:13] <SanchoPensa> gimme a sec, pls
1055 [15:01:46] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: you can get the browser to
tell you about the stream
1056 [15:01:47] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: it is very precisely this
one:
1057 [15:01:47] <SanchoPensa>
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1059 [15:01:57] <SanchoPensa> i can?
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1061 [15:02:15] <SanchoPensa> never mind teh germann...
1062 [15:02:16] <comrad> hi, can i ask debian build related
questions here or is there a dedicated channel for this?
1063 [15:02:26] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: oh, it's one of those
weird blob: stremas
1064 [15:02:27] <comrad> SanchoPensa: dont mention the war
1065 [15:02:27] <BCMM_> streams
1066 [15:02:48] <SanchoPensa> comrad: what war, dowarisch?
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1068 [15:03:12] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: yaya, i gotcha...
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1070 [15:03:16] <comrad> SanchoPensa: yeah dont mention it
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1072 [15:03:42] <SanchoPensa> odna pivo prosche, dowarisch! :P
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1075 [15:04:38] <SanchoPensa> comrad: the only one who is off
topic here would be you, right? ;)
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1077 [15:05:10] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: it's a tricky stream,
isn't it? :D
1078 [15:05:11] <comrad> SanchoPensa: i'll do my very best,
thank you :-P
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1080 [15:05:19] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: just ignore him, but fyi
it's a Faulty Towers reference rather than an insult
1081 [15:05:28] <SanchoPensa> OH!
1082 [15:05:33] <SanchoPensa> da CLEEESE!
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1084 [15:05:58] <comrad> well, so debian package irc channel
around?
1085 [15:06:46] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: huh i should have started by
checking the obvious: youtube-dl supports tvthek
1086 [15:07:23] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: youtube-dl is a python script
which downloads videos from a large number of different web services
(including youtube). it's probably available in your package
manager
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1088 [15:07:45] <BCMM_> just doing youtube-dl
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1089 [15:07:51] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: it does, however, not dl this
one.
1090 [15:08:03] <SanchoPensa> i have no freaking clue, how they
accomplished that...
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1092 [15:08:28] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: youtube-dl works by having
specific support for specific websites
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1094 [15:08:51] <BCMM_> not by automatically probing for video
elements
1095 [15:09:15] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: it did??
1096 [15:09:30] <SanchoPensa> let me check that, pls, gimme a
minute...
1097 [15:09:31] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: actually it's now saving
a 2nd video
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1099 [15:10:07] <SanchoPensa> holy moly, and eureka! :D gimme a
minute, pls, BCMM_ cos last time i checked, it didnt...
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1103 [15:11:46] <BCMM_> oh i see, it's making one video file
for each segment
1104 [15:11:59] <BCMM_> so i have a signation, syrien, turkei,
etc.
1105 [15:12:28] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: i don't, i get an error
1106 [15:12:37] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: i've on Debian Sid so
i've got youtube-dl version 2018.02.04
1107 [15:12:37] <SanchoPensa> ERROR: Unsupported URL:
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1108 [15:12:51] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: what's your youtube-dl
--version?
1109 [15:13:13] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: the one, that i only just
reinstalled a few secs ago, ec pls
1110 [15:13:45] <SanchoPensa> youtube-dl version 2014.08.05
1111 [15:13:51] <SanchoPensa> humm, that looks rather old... :D
1112 [15:14:10] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: are you still running Jessie?
1113 [15:14:14] <SanchoPensa> Python version 2.7.9 -
Linux-3.16.0-5-amd64-x86_64-with-debian-8.10
1114 [15:14:17] <SanchoPensa> indeed!
1115 [15:14:23] <SanchoPensa> should i upgrade? :D
1116 [15:14:27] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: you know that's
oldstable now, right?
1117 [15:14:32] <SanchoPensa> i do?
1118 [15:14:41] <SanchoPensa> since when actually?
1119 [15:14:54] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: stretch was released
2017-06-17
1120 [15:14:56] <SanchoPensa> i only jus noticed a week ago, or
so...
1121 [15:15:03] <SanchoPensa> holy moly... :D
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1123 [15:15:11] <SanchoPensa> oh boy...
1124 [15:15:20] <SanchoPensa> os upgrade it is, then...
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1126 [15:15:45] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: in any case, youtube-dl
breaks, and gets fixed, very often, because of course all the
websites change how they work with no regard for youtube-dl
1127 [15:15:51] <SanchoPensa> BCMM_: thank you very much for your
assistance, m8, appreciate it!
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1129 [15:16:05] <BCMM_> SanchoPensa: so i keep the latest git
version in my home directory as well as having the debian version
installed
1130 [15:16:08] <BCMM_> np
1131 [15:16:11] <SanchoPensa> yes, I do understand that... :/
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1133 [15:16:23] <SanchoPensa> oh!
1134 [15:16:29] <SanchoPensa> i see...
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1136 [15:16:57] <SanchoPensa> ok.
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1138 [15:17:04] <SanchoPensa> i'll report back in a few hours
then...
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1147 [15:25:42] <qifan> howto add a friend to friends list, on
irc?
1148 [15:27:11] <NetTerminalGene> you can add "window -->
friend list" in hexchat
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1150 [15:28:03] <BCMM_> qifan: that is specific to your irc client
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1153 [15:28:49] <BCMM_> and since LostIRC is fairly minimal, it
may not have such a feature
1154 [15:29:34] <qifan> yeah
1155 [15:29:35] <qifan> :>
1156 [15:29:42] <BCMM_> hmm
1157 [15:29:47] <BCMM_> it occurs to me that you might just mean
notify list
1158 [15:29:59] <qifan> no command found
1159 [15:30:01] <qifan> :(
1160 [15:30:15] <qifan> ops
1161 [15:30:18] <BCMM_> you don't have /notify?
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1163 [15:30:58] <qifan> i typed /list is flooding me
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1165 [15:31:54] * jelly never heard of LostIRC
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1175 [15:37:17] <mrtnt> Iridos, shtrb, RoyK: I did it like this:
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1181 [15:41:40] <iTeV> Uh question;
1182 [15:41:43] <iTeV> termit/stable 3.0-1+b1 amd64
1183 [15:41:45] <iTeV> Simple terminal emulator based on vte
library, embedded lua
1184 [15:41:59] <iTeV> shouldnt the name be termit**e**
1185 [15:42:03] <iTeV> instead of termit?
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1188 [15:46:39] <tw> Doubt it.
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1189 [15:47:34] <jelly> iTeV: rhymes with Kermit?
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1191 [15:47:57] <iTeV> oh wtf
1192 [15:48:02] <iTeV> I tought termit ==
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1193 [15:48:05] <iTeV> well
1194 [15:48:06] <iTeV> TIL iguess..
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1196 [15:50:25] <tw> kermit -_-. I sent a flash self-upgrade file
over z-modem the other day. Remembering how to do it was not a
pleasant experience. I'm happy kermit and friends are no longer
necessary.
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1201 [15:54:16] <kschlesselmann> Hi there! I got some script here
that generates a system image using a Makefile. This Makefile
installs a lot of packages in the resulting chroot using apt-get.
Some packages (I don't know which) ask some questions (Which
keyboard layout I want and if I want to continue without grub).
I'd like to automate the answers to those questions. How would
I do this?
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1202 [15:54:16] <kschlesselmann> apt-get in a debootstrapped
chroot, or?
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1206 [15:57:05] <alkisg> kschlesselmann: you can use
debconf-set-selections to preanswer package debconf questions
1207 [15:57:25] <kschlesselmann> al
1208 [15:58:15] <kschlesselmann> alkisg: How would I find out what
I want to do there? Those dialogs just pop up and I don't have
a clue which package asks them and how I would automate its answer.
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1210 [15:58:38] <zomaar> petn-randall: That is problem creep, not
relevant now
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1213 [15:59:09] <zomaar> Oh boy, systemd ConditionFileIsExecutable
won't work if it's a symlink
1214 [15:59:27] <zomaar> Depend on systemd.....
1215 [15:59:33] <alkisg> kschlesselmann: do a sample installation,
then run `debconf-get-selects`, and see the answers there. Or, at
each dialog,switch to another terminal, run ps aux, and see which
package.postinst script is running
1216 [15:59:50] <kschlesselmann> alkisg: Thanks!
1217 [15:59:58] <kschlesselmann> That'll help :-)
1218 [16:00:07] <alkisg> np
1219 [16:00:17] <alkisg> *debconf-get-selections
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1223 [16:04:24] <kschlesselmann> Hm … I just happen to have
debconf debconf-apt-progress debconf-communicate debconf-copydb
debconf-escape debconf-set-selections debconf-show
1224 [16:05:25] <Iridos> mrtnt, isn't /etc/profile.d also
read by sh (i.e. dash on debian)? Then I think [[ is problematic
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1226 [16:06:55] <petn-randall> zomaar: Good luck with your issue
then!
1227 [16:07:00] <alkisg> kschlesselmann: install debconf-utils for
debconf-get-seletions
1228 [16:07:01] <zomaar> Seriously I try to get a /etc/rc.local
symlink run at boot and it just doesn't run
1229 [16:07:17] <zomaar> petn-randall: My issue is long since
resolved and I had no issue, just a question
1230 [16:08:10] <zomaar> Some people appear to be unhappy if you
have no problems.....
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1232 [16:09:33] <petn-randall> zomaar: Not really, we just
don't like working on xy problems and having to pull everything
out of a user's nose.
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1234 [16:09:55] <tw> running authentication steps out of profile.d
is a horrible idea.
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1236 [16:10:40] <mrtnt> Iridos: good point, thanks! I'll
change that.
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1238 [16:11:19] <petn-randall> And if you brush off follow-up
questions with "this is problem creep, please work on my Y
instead of asking about X" the desire to help by most regulars
quickly falls to zero.
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1242 [16:14:25] <tw> oh, not actually the authentication step,
just to configure 2fa for future use.
1243 [16:14:32] <tw> that sounds clever actually.
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1246 [16:16:12] <mrtnt> tw: yes, it is simply to execute
google-authenticator to show the QR code for the user first time
they log in. Authentication is done by PAM module.
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1248 [16:16:51] <tw> ... Graphically?
1249 [16:17:13] <mrtnt> tw: yes. It makes them easy to scan in the
QR code with mobile.
1250 [16:17:30] <tw> Is there a shell library that does that?
Because that sounds super useful.
1251 [16:18:17] <tw> This is a thing I didn't know I needed
until just now <.<
1252 [16:18:54] <mrtnt> tw: it should be provided by libqrencode3
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1257 [16:23:35] <dowwie> I'm using Debian 9. I've been
trying all sorts of recommendations but haven't cleared a
package dependency issue I'm having related to this "
Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
1258 [16:23:47] <petn-randall> !bat
1259 [16:23:47] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
1260 [16:24:05] <petn-randall> hi dowwie, can you provide all of
the above in a single paste? ^^^
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1262 [16:24:30] <dowwie> sure
1263 [16:25:37] <tw> mrtnt: thanks much. doesn't look like
qrencode itself provides terminal output code, but I'm not
above throwing together a quick ncurses wrapper for it as needed.
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1267 [16:32:33] <dowwie> petn-randall:
replaced-url
1268 [16:34:30] <tw> dowwie: try using stretch-pgdg instead of
jessie-pgdg
1269 [16:34:48] <dowwie> ok, what do I need to change ?
1270 [16:34:48] <ghormoon> hi, is there some way to make a script
that runs for specific interface in
/etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/* simmilarly to original way of
/etc/dhcp/dhclient-${IF}-down-hooks ? (this one is not listed
anymore in man, so I assume it's not possible)
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1272 [16:35:57] <ghormoon> (mixed the enter/down names in the
example, but you get it :))
1273 [16:36:15] <tw> dowwie: you have one or more lines in your
sources.list or sources.list.d somewhere that says jessie-pgdg.
Change all of them to stretch-pgdg.
1274 [16:36:30] <petn-randall> dowwie: The apt.postgresql.org repo
you have in your sources.list points to jessie, not stretch. That is
your issue.
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1276 [16:36:47] <dowwie> what are the .save files in /etc/apt for?
can I delete the postgresql one safely
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1278 [16:37:10] <dowwie> petn-randall: aha, ok I am updating
1279 [16:37:45] <dowwie> bingo!
1280 [16:37:55] <dowwie> *hugs* <3 debian people
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1283 [16:38:30] <petn-randall> dowwie: No idea what .save is,
probably from your editor? Glad it worked out, you're welcome!
1284 [16:38:54] <dowwie> I'll leave it alone for now then
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1301 [17:02:53] <noze> Hi all, quick firefox question (sorry for
the OT): I just installed a new add-on that screwed up my tabs and
I'd like to restore a previously saved session. There's a
bunch of stuff (recovery.jsonlz4, previous.jsonlz4, ..) in FF's
sessionstore-backups folder. How can I get FF to load a previous
session? what file does the session usually get read from? what does
about:sessionrestore access?
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1323 [17:15:36] <petn-randall> noze: Do you mean
"profiles"? You can access them via 'firefox
-ProfileManager'.
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1328 [17:16:59] <qifan> someone help me seeting gnome gps, applet
?
1329 [17:17:16] <Iridos> no… he means
~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/sessionst*
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1332 [17:18:30] <Iridos> and more specifically
~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/sessionstore-backups/* …
although I'm not sure that's really the relevant one
anyway
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1381 [17:43:16] <wfq> hi all
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1388 [17:45:55] <wfq> In here
replaced-url
1389 [17:46:39] <greycat> Install it, see if it works. If it
doesn't work, file a bug report. Or, look at existing bug
reports.
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1391 [17:47:41] <petn-randall> wfq: Are you running Debian jessie?
1392 [17:47:56] <wfq> greycat, well thanks but I guess there is a
way of knowing if such limitations exist. I mean isn't there
any official place on the net where I can drill down these sort of
issues further for Debian
1393 [17:48:01] <wfq> petn-randall yes
1394 [17:48:23] <greycat> wfq:
replaced-url
1395 [17:48:35] <petn-randall> wfq: You can check the BTS if this
problem actually exists, but I'd assume if it's packaged
in Debian, it works. If not, file a bug report.
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1398 [17:50:05] <wfq> ok,thanks guys
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1423 [18:09:38] <NapoleonWils0n> hi all
1424 [18:09:56] <NapoleonWils0n> the libreoffice metapackage
installs java
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1426 [18:10:44] <NapoleonWils0n> should i just install
libreoffice-write libreoffice-calc
1427 [18:11:15] <NapoleonWils0n> i see several other packages like
libreoffice-base
1428 [18:11:32] <towo`> depends on your needs
1429 [18:11:58] <NapoleonWils0n> i want to install the whole suite
just without java
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1433 [18:13:15] <jhutchins_wk> NapoleonWils0n: The whole suite
uses java.
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1435 [18:13:29] <annadane> specifically it uses the free
implementation of it
1436 [18:13:34] <annadane> it's not oracle's java
1437 [18:14:16] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Why exactly do you
want that? It's kind of difficult to accomplish that if large
parts of libreoffice are written in java.
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1440 [18:14:43] <NapoleonWils0n> libreoffice work without java
mate
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1443 [18:14:58] <NapoleonWils0n> running libreoffice on unix with
no java
1444 [18:15:33] <NapoleonWils0n> its just the libreoffice
metapackage that pulls in the java
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1447 [18:15:59] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: Sure, but then you
have to cherry pick those parts of libreoffice that don't
depend on java.
1448 [18:16:27] <jelly> NapoleonWils0n: does libreoffice-writer
not pull in java?
1449 [18:16:55] <annadane> libreoffice, being a metapackage, will
installl a whole suite of applications like writer, calc, base, etc
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1452 [18:19:45] <petn-randall> NapoleonWils0n: You could try with
--no-install-recommends, but IIRC there are still parts that
actually depend on java.
1453 [18:20:06] <NapoleonWils0n> i would have thought
libreoffice-base libreoffice-writer libreoffice-calc would work
1454 [18:21:33] <annadane> but anyway, why do you not want java?
space issues?
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1457 [18:21:59] <NapoleonWils0n> i just dont like java thats all
1458 [18:22:14] <annadane> okay, well as i said, it's free
and not proprietary
1459 [18:22:48] <NapoleonWils0n> ill try cherry picking the
packages
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1461 [18:23:45] <somiaj> I think it will be hard to avoid java
with openoffice, as java is partly integrated into it. Even the
libreoffice-writer depends on java.
1462 [18:23:51] * petn-randall hopes NapoleonWils0n likes Perl ...
1463 [18:23:53] <somiaj> I mean libreoffice....
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1476 [18:29:31] <shtrb> writer can be used without java ( what
really need it is ant ant-optional ca-certificates-java
default-java-plugin default-jdk default-jdk-headless default-jre
default-jre-headless icedtea-8-plugin icedtea-netx java-common
libapache-poi-java liblayout-java libmsv-java
libpentaho-reporting-flow-engine-java libreoffice-nlpsolver
libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-script-provider-bsh
libreoffice-script-provider-js libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
1477 [18:29:32] <shtrb> libreoffice-wiki-publisher openjdk-8-jdk
openjdk-8-jdk-headless openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless)
1478 [18:30:17] * petn-randall wonders what type of programming language
openjdk-8-jre is.
1479 [18:30:31] <shtrb> :)
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1481 [18:31:33] <petn-randall> :)
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1484 [18:35:44] <qifan> does it worth the upgrade from a 1060 gtx
nvidia, too, a wave 64 msi, vega 64 ?
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1486 [18:36:33] <acidtripper> why planning to upgrade ?
1487 [18:36:42] <acidtripper> 1060 is good graphic card
1488 [18:37:31] <jelly> qifan: how is this a Debian question?
1489 [18:37:32] <qifan> acidtripper, to play decently deus EX and
warhammer III :)
1490 [18:37:39] <qifan> just questing :(
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1492 [18:37:54] <jelly> ask in ##hardware
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1494 [18:38:22] <jelly> and probably mention you're running
on linux because performance may vary
1495 [18:38:23] <acidtripper> you'll have better results with
nvidia
1496 [18:38:31] <acidtripper> check some comparisons on web
1497 [18:38:33] <acidtripper> full of
1498 [18:38:40] <acidtripper> deus ex is for linux?
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1501 [18:38:49] <qifan> i compared a 1060 vs 1080ti gives more
100fps
1502 [18:38:54] <greycat> jelly: I think "does ___ video card
work well on Debian?" would be on topic, at least.
1503 [18:38:55] <AimHere> Deus Ex Mankind Divided is
1504 [18:39:03] <qifan> so: vega64 vs 1080ti is the same as far as
i can see
1505 [18:39:06] <jelly> acidtripper: he's asking HERE so
I'm assuming he's running that stuff on Debian
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1507 [18:39:14] <qifan> Making Devided it is :))) greycat
1508 [18:39:46] <acidtripper> greycat, maybe using propietary
upgraded drivers
1509 [18:39:48] <acidtripper> is a good option
1510 [18:39:58] <acidtripper> i always prefer that option from
apt-get ones
1511 [18:40:17] <qifan> omg
1512 [18:40:18] <qifan> nvm
1513 [18:40:31] <acidtripper> jelly, you don't have to assume
as fast as you do
1514 [18:40:40] <acidtripper> you'll be surprised most of
times
1515 [18:40:41] <acidtripper> :P
1516 [18:40:59] <jelly> acidtripper: if the assumption is
incorrect, the question is 100% offtopic
1517 [18:41:11] <greycat> qifan: never mind what? You asked about
a non-Intel video card in #debian. The #debian issues involved are
"Can it be made to work at all" and "How do you get a
working driver installed on ___ version of Debian for ___
card".
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1521 [18:42:09] <jelly> acidtripper: and offtopic support
questions get punted in the direction of a better channel ASAP
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1523 [18:42:36] <acidtripper> i have offtopic word
1524 [18:42:48] <acidtripper> irc channels must be active is a
community of users
1525 [18:42:53] <acidtripper> hate*
1526 [18:43:18] <greycat> If you just prattle for the sake of
making noise, we'll silence you.
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1528 [18:43:34] <greycat> An idle channel is a HAPPY channel,
because it means we can focus our attention somewhere else.
1529 [18:43:59] <jelly> acidtripper: I don't want to read
offtopic activity in here, sorry. If there's a better place, do
it there and if that means there's no lines in here for hours
or days, that's _good_
1530 [18:44:03] <acidtripper> so lets be a gray community ;)
1531 [18:45:49] <shtrb> acidtripper, check with the correct
channel for the driver
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1534 [18:46:05] <acidtripper> shtrb, im not having any problem was
another user
1535 [18:46:19] <acidtripper> most of times i solve issues at my
own
1536 [18:46:48] <shtrb> acidtripper, sorry
1537 [18:46:55] <hypn0> its just an overflow
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1575 [19:12:28] <jehorn> Good day all
1576 [19:12:41] <alkisg> Hello
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1612 [19:44:44] <ikla> is cgroups available in debian?
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1614 [19:45:15] <greycat> Yes, has been for a while.
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1616 [19:45:35] <greycat> "man 7 cgroups" for the
overview page
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1621 [19:52:43] <ChunkzZ> how can I disable swap? dphys-config and
dphys-swapfile isn't installed but when I try "free
-h" swap is listed. I have to "sudo swapoff -a" to
turn it off?
1622 [19:53:39] <ghormoon> hi, why are scripts in
/etc/network/if-up.d/ run when I enable wifi in NM but
/etc/network/if-down.d/ not when I disable it?
1623 [19:53:46] <greycat> Yes, to disable it immediatly, use
swapoff. To disable it upon the next reboot, comment out the line(s)
in /etc/fstab.
1624 [19:54:36] <ChunkzZ> thanks greycat :)
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1626 [19:55:26] <magyar> hi guys, dpkg bot is missing instructions
on stretch->buster
1627 [19:56:04] <greycat> buster isn't released yet. it is
still testing.
1628 [19:56:13] <Brigo> magyar, the instructions would be
something like if you need instructions you shound't be using
it.
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1630 [19:56:26] <ChunkzZ> worked great, cheers again greycat.
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1632 [19:57:20] <magyar> greycat: i know, but there used to be
instructions on how to move to testing
1633 [19:58:08] <annadane> if you're willing to take the
risks basically just replace stable/stretch with testing/buster
(tracking a branch or a release name according to preferences) in
your sources.list
1634 [19:58:26] <Brigo> and apt-get dist-upgrade
1635 [19:58:32] <annadane> (when buster becomes stable if you put
buster in your sources you won't get nasty surprises)
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1637 [19:58:36] <Brigo> you'll get a lot of fun, for sure.
1638 [19:58:39] <annadane> yes, apt update, apt
upgrade/dist-upgrade
1639 [19:59:05] <annadane> though apparently testing only *needs*
one line
1640 [20:00:00] <magyar> thanks
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1692 [21:05:38] <qifan> Q: How do i install a new kernel that
supports, my vega 56 ? i heared it was 4.12 kernel dependent is it
true ?
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1694 [21:06:11] <annadane> qifan, install the kernel from
stretch-backports
1695 [21:06:22] <annadane> it's on 4.14 (i think)
1696 [21:06:26] <annadane> certainly newer than 4.12
1697 [21:06:26] <greycat> ,kernels
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1699 [21:06:27] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); buster: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1);
stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1);
stretch: 4.9.0-5-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
1700 [21:06:28] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
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1702 [21:06:40] <qifan> how do i do that achivment ?
1703 [21:06:44] <qifan> annadane, ?
1704 [21:06:55] <greycat> qifan: /msg dpkg stretch backports
1705 [21:07:37] <annadane> i think for the kernel it's apt
install linux-image-<architecture> but i never remember how
it's done
1706 [21:07:50] <annadane> apt install -t=stretch-backports
linux-image-amd64 for example
1707 [21:07:53] <greycat> of course you need the -t
stretch-backports part
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1709 [21:09:05] <qifan> this part : deb
replaced-url
1710 [21:09:17] <greycat> Please don't skip the "read
the instructions" part.
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1712 [21:12:49] <qifan> annadane, but if i add the line should i
need also the -t=stretch-backports allways ?
1713 [21:13:06] <annadane> yes
1714 [21:13:09] <greycat> You always need -t when installing a new
package from backports.
1715 [21:13:17] <greycat> Just like it says in the instructions.
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1718 [21:13:37] <qifan> does apt-cache search <package>
returns also packages from backports ?
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1720 [21:13:45] <qifan> thank you
1721 [21:14:00] <greycat> Yes, it will.
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1723 [21:14:08] <greycat> You'll get all available versions
from all repositories.
1724 [21:15:47] <qifan> is installing
1725 [21:15:48] <qifan> :)
1726 [21:15:51] <qifan> brb food
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1743 [21:30:25] <qifan> Q: How do i see if linux-headers are in
use, do i really need them?
1744 [21:30:38] <greycat> only if you plan to build a kernel
module from source code
1745 [21:30:45] <qifan> ohh
1746 [21:30:47] <qifan> :>
1747 [21:31:13] <qifan> but i have two headers, common and 4.9
headers repectively
1748 [21:34:09] <towo`> that's normal
1749 [21:34:41] <towo`> and if you don't need them, purge
them
1750 [21:34:57] <qifan> towo :) good night, as i tryed to upgrade
my system like annadane told now i face a issue im missing the
linux-headers
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1752 [21:35:08] <qifan> an*
1753 [21:35:16] <annadane> not my fault!
1754 [21:35:20] <annadane> (hopefully)
1755 [21:35:22] <qifan> Q: how should be the procedure ?
1756 [21:35:40] <annadane> how did you try "upgrading"
your system?
1757 [21:35:47] <greycat> If you don't build kernel driver
modules (e.g. nvidia) then you could just *remove* them.
1758 [21:35:55] <qifan> i am installing the headers and re-install
the linux-kernel again
1759 [21:35:55] <towo`> qifan, who tells you about missing
headers?
1760 [21:35:57] <qifan> hope it w0rks
1761 [21:35:59] <qifan> :)
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1763 [21:36:12] <greycat> why are you reinstalling a package you
just installed?
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1765 [21:37:28] <qifan>
replaced-url
1766 [21:37:54] <towo`> qifan, and if you mean with vega 56 your
amd graphics card, you need at least kernel 4.15, since vega depends
on DC, which is introduced with kernel 4.15
1767 [21:38:18] <qifan> ohh
1768 [21:38:26] <qifan> 4.15 , is downloaded from the web?
1769 [21:38:38] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
1770 [21:38:39] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); buster: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1);
stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1);
stretch: 4.9.0-5-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
1771 [21:38:40] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
1772 [21:38:48] <greycat> so... he *IS* building kernel modules?
1773 [21:38:54] <qifan> ty :>
1774 [21:39:08] <qifan> experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686
(4.15~rc8-1~exp1) is my aim
1775 [21:39:13] <annadane> oh god.
1776 [21:39:15] <greycat> jesus
1777 [21:39:28] <greycat> How about you just ... wait?
1778 [21:39:46] <greycat> Or stop buying hardware that still has
amniotic fluid dripping off it?
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1781 [21:41:39] <jhutchins_wk> qifan: You REALLY should not try to
run an experimental kernel given the questions you've been
asking.
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1783 [21:42:32] <qifan> maybe from the iso?
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1785 [21:42:47] <annadane> qifan, leave experimental alone
1786 [21:42:52] <annadane> wait for 4.15 to hit backports, if it
does
1787 [21:42:59] <qifan> maybe :)
1788 [21:43:01] <qifan> ty
1789 [21:43:04] <qifan> for advice
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1791 [21:43:11] <qifan> i ll wait
1792 [21:43:11] <annadane> and stop rushing things
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1811 [21:57:20] <xet7> How do I disable timed screensaver and
logout in Debian 10 XFCE ? Screen does not stay on, I need to login
again, and the terminal window I opened is gone.
1812 [21:59:02] <annadane> !debian-next
1813 [21:59:02] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
1814 [21:59:11] <annadane> or perhaps ask in an xfce specific irc
channel
1815 [22:00:21] <xet7> Ok
1816 [22:00:31] <xet7> Thanks!
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1828 [22:13:50] <AlexPortable> How do i install openssh-server 7.2
(or higher) on debian 8?
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1836 [22:20:16] <hypn0> doesn't look like you can in 8
AlexPortable, why are you on 8 still, got 7.4+ on 9
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1845 [22:24:02] <somiaj> AlexPortable: looks like if you really
need it on jessie, you'll have to backport it yourself. I
expect it to backport fairly easily (though you'll most likely
have to backport openssl as well too)
1846 [22:24:53] <greycat> Hard to think of too many reasons to
hold a server on jessie, unless it's PHP or MySQL related.
1847 [22:25:44] <AlexPortable> because server provider doesnt
offer 9
1848 [22:25:54] <greycat> You've already got over the big
huge systemd speed bump going from wheezy to jessie. Jessie to
stretch is nothin'.
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1850 [22:26:22] <metastable> AlexPortable: What's preventing
you from doing a release upgrade?
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1853 [22:27:11] <AlexPortable> true
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1862 [22:37:01] <AlexPortable> user1: access all files in
/folder/, user2: access all files in /folder/foo/, user3: access all
files in /folder/foo/bar/, what would be the best approach do to
this?
1863 [22:37:26] <greycat> Groups?
1864 [22:37:33] <AlexPortable> and then?
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1869 [22:40:06] <greycat> chgrp g1 /directory; chgrp g2
/directory/foo; chgrp g3 /directory/foo/bar; put user1 in all 3
groups; put user2 in g2 and g3 only; put user3 in g3 only; all
directories must have the 001 (o+x) bit set so users can move
THROUGH them even if they can't read the files.
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1893 [22:59:38] <AlexPortable> and what should the file
permissions more be?
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1895 [22:59:56] <greycat> I'm sure you can figure it out.
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1900 [23:03:59] <AlexPortable> nope
1901 [23:04:01] <AlexPortable> permission denied
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1934 [23:29:15] <Exagone313> Hi, I want to run multiple apps on a
(home) server and I'd like to use containers to isolate network
access. I think I have two options (if I omit docker):
systemd-nspawn and lxc. What would you recommend? Thanks for your
help.
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1936 [23:30:51] <_0xis> have you looked at proxmox?
1937 [23:31:00] <syntaxman> The more I learn about systemd, the
more it sucks.
1938 [23:31:15] <syntaxman> I cannot fathom how it gained so much
traction.
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1940 [23:32:05] <Exagone313> if it uses lxc below, I can just use
lxc manually, this isn't for prod with a lot of servers or such
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1946 [23:34:25] <metastable> syntaxman: Do you have a support
question?
1947 [23:35:00] <Exagone313> I tried lxc on another distro and I
could share the package manager cache to do not download packages
multiple timeS. do you know if it's possible with debian? would
it be safe to (bind) mount /var/cache/apt? I can ensure that only
one instance of apt/dpkg runs at the same time across host and
containers if needed
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1949 [23:35:58] <Exagone313> I haven't yet tried
systemd-nspawn
1950 [23:36:19] <mischief> are the gdb python pretty printers for
GNU C++ available as a debian package somewhere?
1951 [23:36:25] <Exagone313> this one seems lighter as I just
containerize a few apps
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1954 [23:37:38] <mischief> Exagone313: you could just use a http
proxy? :)
1955 [23:37:40] <syntaxman> metastable: nope. I'm done.
1956 [23:38:29] <Exagone313> mischief: I have some apps that
listen on all interfaces instead of just localhost, for example, and
I want to prevent/limit access between containers
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1958 [23:38:50] <Exagone313> my server isn't powerful enough
to use vm
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1965 [23:43:26] <Exagone313> I think I'm gonna try
systemd-nspawn and make my choice on that experience ^^
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1969 [23:46:52] <gubernator> Hi, I'm having a sudo issue. My
steps were:
1970 [23:46:58] <gubernator> (1) su root (2) apt-get install sudo
(3) adduser gubernator sudo (4) log out (5) log in (6) sudo echo
"Hello, wurld!" (7) gubernator is not in the sudoers file
1971 [23:47:03] <gubernator> (8) repeat steps 1 and 3 (9) The user
`gubernator' is already a member of `sudo' (10) seems
contradictory?
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1973 [23:48:19] <metastable> gubernator: 1. Try ending all active
sessions for your user to see if that helps. 2. 'su root'
is redundant.
1974 [23:50:08] <gubernator> metastable, active sessions? log out
is not ending active session?
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(Quit: standby.)
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1977 [23:51:21] <metastable> gubernator: Depends entirely on how
you're logged in.
1978 [23:51:35] <metastable> gubernator: If there are any running
processes as your user, then no.
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1981 [23:52:50] <gubernator> metastable: Okay, perhaps it's a
cinnamon thing? This is a fresh debian 9 install so everything is
default. I will reboot. Thanks
1982 [23:54:00] <metastable> gubernator: If you're running a
cinnamon session, then you're running processes as your user
and the group membership change isn't taking effect.
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1984 [23:56:24] <gubernator> metastable: Interesting. So if I log
out, then log in as user Guest, is cinnamon still running as
gubernator?
1985 [23:57:09] *** Quits: gawa (~gawa@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1986 [23:57:19] <metastable> gubernator: Once you end YOUR
session, then that should be it. A DE's processes run generally
as the user that launched the session. This is the case with GNOME,
KDE, et al.
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1989 [23:58:38] <gubernator> metastable: I seem to be missing
something here. When I log out, and have to provide my user password
to log back in, have I not ended the session for that user?
1990 [23:59:04] <metastable> gubernator: Have you logged out of
the desktop session, or the shell?
1991 [23:59:28] <gubernator> metastable: Desktop session
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1993 [23:59:30] <metastable> gubernator: It's entirely
possible that there's a remnant process due to Cinnamon or some
other process you launched during your session. I have no way of
knowing without seeing your process list.
1994 [23:59:31] <Exagone313> as root: EDITOR=vim visudo
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