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0[00:00:20] <blahxblah> it seems the stretch repo doesn't
exist yet, maybe i will try again in a few days and see if there are
any package differences
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6[00:03:06] <gsilvapt> Hello. Can anyone help me with
wrap-and-sort? Whenever I run the command it does nothing but I know
it should do something
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42[00:16:48] <jhutchins> blahxblah: The repos have been there
since jessie relesed.
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43[00:17:18] <missmbob> so not worth it
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45[00:17:34] <zjoeke> hi got a problem with installing flash
player (ERROR: wget failed to download
replaced-url
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49[00:18:12] <Violinist> guuuuuuuuuuuuuuoiz
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50[00:18:18] <Violinist> steam broke
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51[00:18:21] <Violinist> help!
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52[00:18:28] <Violinist> this is major problem
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53[00:18:58] <jhutchins> zjoeke: Adobe updated the file and the
script is looking for the old one. You can fix it yourself or wait
for the maintainer to update the script.
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57[00:20:03] <jhutchins> zjoeke: Or you can just download it
manually.
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59[00:20:18] <missmbob> zjoeke: did you really want npapi or
ppapi?
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61[00:21:02] <zjoeke> dunno i used the command from the wiki
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62[00:21:31] <zjoeke> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
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63[00:21:48] <missmbob> yeah, like you were told, that's
broken
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64[00:22:14] <missmbob> if you want firefox, just get it from
adobe.com manually
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65[00:22:15] <zjoeke> whats the new one
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66[00:22:33] <jhutchins> zjoeke: Go to the adobe web site and
see.
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69[00:23:14] <zjoeke> it doesnt recognise when i dl the deb
packag
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73[00:25:08] <Buddhie> i use such outsider code in a virtualbox
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74[00:25:45] <zjoeke> it says adress wasnt understood if i
choose apt for debian
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75[00:26:20] <Buddhie> if you dont want code outside debian you
could use a virtualbox to run that *firefox*
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81[00:27:53] <zjoeke> too dificult for me
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86[00:30:56] <zjoeke> isnt there a ,deb package available
somewhere
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90[00:32:22] <pebbles> hi just wandering about package to find
fastest debian mirror
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93[00:34:13] <zjoeke> pebbles apt-get install netselect-apt to
run netselect-apt
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96[00:35:07] <pebbles> thanks dude
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219[01:48:06] <firef1y> Hey, does debian have decent support for
Kaby Lake iGPU?
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252[02:05:57] <missmbob> firef1y: in stretch?
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256[02:07:29] <missmbob> firef1y: if so, yes, if you compile
your own 4.10 kernel. or wait a little bit after its release (on the
17th) for 4.10 to go into stretch-backports
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261[02:09:07] <firef1y> missmbob: whatever the latest is...
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262[02:09:16] <firef1y> I thought we were past Stretch now...
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266[02:09:35] <firef1y> title says that Jessie is stable now.
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267[02:09:47] <missmbob> firef1y: jessie is before stretch
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351[02:56:20] <razz> hey guys, ive got a networking question,
trying to set a static ip and static route in raspbian, the guide im
using says to edit /etc/network/interfaces but it isnt working and
from what i understand the configuration file should now be
/etc/dhcpcd.conf?
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352[02:57:01] <bazhang> #raspbian for support
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354[02:57:44] <razz> this is what im putting into the interfaces
file address x.x.x.x, netmask x.x.x.x and up route add -net x.x.x.x
netmask x.x.x.x eth0 just wondering what i would need to change for
this to work in the dhcpcd config?
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355[02:57:57] <razz> ok thanks
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451[04:04:34] <sumyunseal> if i install strech rc5 will that
update to the official release?
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454[04:06:35] <sumyunseal> gaize?
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455[04:07:26] <sumyunseal> also should i format my usb to fat or
ex4
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464[04:11:34] <mutante> sumyunseal: are you going to use it with
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466[04:11:43] <sumyunseal> no already on wheezy
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469[04:11:59] <sumyunseal> no usb is usb
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470[04:12:13] <mutante> then i don't know what formatting
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472[04:12:20] <sumyunseal> puting strech on a new partition
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478[04:13:39] <mutante> sumyunseal: so it's a flash drive?
USB is a conneciton
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479[04:13:52] <sumyunseal> jesus
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480[04:14:03] <sumyunseal> i guess it is man i guess it is
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481[04:15:01] <lucnx> sudo apt-get install a life
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484[04:15:35] <mutante> what the heck, since when is "my
USB" a thing. here's your answer though
replaced-url
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486[04:15:50] <sumyunseal> by the time u put ur gogles on ill
have it installed already
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487[04:15:53] <sumyunseal> ffs
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489[04:16:06] <sumyunseal> already there mutante
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490[04:16:19] <mutante> so i wasnt fast enough googling for you?
sorry for that
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491[04:16:50] <sumyunseal> coz u were still processing usb ?
duuuuuuuur
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492[04:17:24] <sumyunseal> what is sync?
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493[04:17:30] <sumyunseal> cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
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494[04:17:33] <sumyunseal> sync
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497[04:18:37] <sumyunseal> Do not use tools like unetbootin
which alter the image.
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499[04:18:44] <sumyunseal> thats what i did the first time
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500[04:18:50] <sumyunseal> used to work
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501[04:19:07] <sumyunseal> how come netbooting screews it up
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506[04:20:25] <sumyunseal> bbl rebooting and installing
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530[04:33:43] <nurupo> what is the difference between mini.iso
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532[04:33:53] <nurupo> apart from them being 40mb vs 300mb
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534[04:35:38] <dvs> nurupo, mini.iso must install everything
over the internet while the netinst can create a minimal install
without going over the internet.
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535[04:36:18] <nurupo> ah, i see
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536[04:37:04] <mutante> the naming is kind of backwards,
"net"-install is the one that works without net
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537[04:37:10] <nurupo> the names are kind of backwards though
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538[04:37:39] <nurupo> netinst.iso is the mini installation,
while mini.iso is the network installation
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543[04:38:27] <nurupo> heh, didn't see you message, mutante
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546[04:40:49] <mutante> well, we agree :)
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552[04:43:29] <nurupo> anyone can edit this page?
replaced-url
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560[04:53:00] <nurupo> i wonder what is non-free in bison-doc
package
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565[04:54:30] <nurupo> >cpp-6-doc (6.3.0-1) [non-free]
documentation for the GNU C preprocessor (cpp)
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566[04:54:33] <nurupo> huh
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567[04:55:23] <nurupo> ok, found it >This documentation is
licensed under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, and
contains invariant sections, so it can't be part of Debian
main.
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569[04:56:23] <nurupo> GNU Free Documentation License isn't
considerate free by Debian Free Software Guidelines
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570[04:57:15] <nurupo> weird by okay, i guess there could be
some incompatibilities
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579[05:07:04] <sumyunseal> weeepeeee
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581[05:07:12] <sumyunseal> im in stretch gaize
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582[05:07:18] <sumyunseal> welcome me
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583[05:07:23] <sumyunseal> \o/
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585[05:07:30] <sumyunseal> comon
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591[05:09:57] <n-iCe> hi
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592[05:11:09] <sumyunseal> helo
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593[05:11:24] <n-iCe> how you doing
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595[05:11:45] <sumyunseal> setting up the new strech
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596[05:12:00] <n-iCe> awesome, I did that yesterday
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597[05:12:11] <n-iCe> last debian iso netsintall, and installed
openbox
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599[05:12:33] <sumyunseal> yey
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600[05:12:46] <sumyunseal> i dont like all the missing software
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601[05:13:16] <sumyunseal> bbl have to reboot for nvidia
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603[05:13:27] <n-iCe> well
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607[05:16:28] <sumyunseal> holy crap the icons r huge
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608[05:17:25] <n-iCe> haha
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609[05:17:38] <n-iCe> I like the missing software, because the
laptop is old, centrino duo and 1GB RA,
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610[05:17:44] <n-iCe> RAM, can't run something better
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611[05:18:02] <sumyunseal> omg the tabs r hyuge
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614[05:18:34] <n-iCe> lol
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615[05:19:23] <sumyunseal> mesa-utils
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617[05:21:32] <sumyunseal> got opengl
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618[05:21:35] <sumyunseal> :D
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619[05:21:42] <sumyunseal> thats all i need
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631[05:32:12] <sumyunseal> getting cairo dock
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633[05:32:14] <sumyunseal> :D
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634[05:33:44] <sumyunseal> wow so many fix broken lel
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635[05:34:17] <sumyunseal> brilliant
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653[05:45:27] <sumyunseal> libc6-i386
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654[05:46:00] <sumyunseal> now we start stretching
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655[05:46:03] <sumyunseal> lel
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656[05:47:32] <uxfi> How do I get info for a package when using
dpkg to search/
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657[05:47:47] <sumyunseal> apt-cache policy package
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658[05:48:03] <uxfi> ah
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659[05:48:13] <uxfi> sumyunseal; well I mean a lsit ofpackages
with their descriptios too
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660[05:48:34] <sumyunseal> dpkg -l
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661[05:48:35] <dpkg> Files in package sumyunseal-pr0n:
/srv/sumyunseal-pr0n/sumyunseal.jpg
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663[05:49:15] <uxfi> sumyunseal; nope what do you mean?
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666[05:49:55] <sumyunseal> wat
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669[05:50:49] <uxfi> Im talking about sumyunseal if I do dpkg --
saerch "word etc" a lsit of packages will come up with
their descriptions
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698[06:24:57] <sumyunseal> hwo come hexchat looks like poo
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699[06:25:09] <sumyunseal> its like an ugly xchat
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700[06:25:34] <pingfloyd> they both look like poo
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701[06:25:50] <Rusty1_> /join #hexchat, discus
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702[06:25:55] <Rusty1_> s
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703[06:26:34] <mutante> how come what is considered ugly lies in
the eye of the beholder
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709[06:28:37] <themill> nurupo: link fixed in the next site
rebuild. thanks.
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713[06:29:02] <nurupo> themill: nah, thank *you* :P
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851[07:41:17] <dunderproto> s/simpler/simple
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code analyzer
replaced-url
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source tarball, so it's included in the package not by a
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918[08:24:36] <gurukr18> I'm trying to use pnfs on Ubuntu
and tried mounting with the following option: -t nfs4 -o
minorversion=1
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921[08:25:27] <gurukr18> I'm on 16.04 Ubuntu
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983[08:54:13] <m_> Hello all
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985[08:54:19] <m_> Hello to all
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986[08:54:44] <locrian9> Hi m
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987[08:54:46] <m_> I have issue with virtual box
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989[08:54:56] <locrian9> me too
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990[08:55:05] <m_> I can not install virtualbox
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995[08:55:37] <locrian9> m_: what is the host OS and what is the
guest OS?
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997[08:56:37] <m_> because I live in Iran and Oracle have
boycotted us
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999[08:58:00] <m_> for example I can't connect to server
replaced-url
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1000[08:58:20] <m_> Please help me?
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1002[08:58:33] <rjsalts> m_: there is a virtualbox package in
debian itself
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1003[08:58:43] <rjsalts> m_: apt-get install virtualbox
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1005[09:00:05] <rjsalts> m_: I think the only thing you
won't be able to do with the free version is USB passthrough to
the VM
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1008[09:01:04] <rjsalts> m_: Support for USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
devices, VirtualBox RDP, disk encryption, NVMe and PXE boot for
Intel cards.
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1038[09:17:28] <locrian9> Can someone help me with setting up a
samba server hosted on a VirtualBox guest Debian Jessie and allow
the host OS (Win7) to see the samba share?
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1040[09:17:42] <locrian9> I've configured the
'settings' in the VirtualBox residing on the host OS Win7
(VirtualBox > File > Preferences > Network > Host-only
Networks) and have edited to have the 'host only network'
reside on the IP to 192.168.200.1 255.255.255.0. Then I've
created the following 'smb.conf' file in /etc/samba (replaced-url
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1041[09:17:48] <locrian9> k in Windows (Run //192.168.200.1), I
don't see the samba file share hosted in my Debian Jessie
folder.
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1046[09:23:30] <rjsalts> locrian9: you mean \\?
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1048[09:24:02] <locrian9> rjsalts: Yes, \\192.168.200.1
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1049[09:24:20] <rjsalts> locrian9: did it ask for authentication?
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1050[09:25:16] <locrian9> rjsalts: No, it just shows the large
white background, without any folders inside the Windows Explorer
window.
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1052[09:26:44] <rjsalts> locrian9: if you try \\host\share for
instance a user share if you have home directories turned on
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1055[09:28:43] <rjsalts> locrian9: or \\host\samba-share
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1060[09:31:08] <locrian9> rjsalts: Just tried
\\192.168.200.1\samba-share and the attempt timed out with an error.
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1064[09:31:53] <rjsalts> locrian9: which was?
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1065[09:33:13] <locrian9> '\\192.168.200.1\samba-share A
device attached to the system is not functioning.'
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1068[09:34:46] <darme> i just got segfault error on xorg. what do
i do?
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1069[09:34:51] <darme> im on stretch
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1070[09:35:11] <darme> i have log
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1071[09:35:34] <rjsalts> locrian9: anything on the samba server,
logs-wise
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1074[09:36:24] <rjsalts> darme: it's most likely a bug or a
hardware failure. Do you have a core file?
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1076[09:36:53] <darme> dont know what it is
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1083[09:38:56] <darme> xserver-xorg-core is already the newest
version (2:1.19.2-1)
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1086[09:39:28] <rjsalts> darme: when a segfault occurs it's
because a program attempted to access memory that wasn't
allocated to it. that's either because of a bug where the
programmer didn't check that they weren't going over the
end of the part of memory allocated to them
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1090[09:40:26] <rjsalts> darme: or if you have a hardware fault,
because something got changed in memory which led to the attempt to
access outside the allocation
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1091[09:41:01] <rjsalts> darme: when that happens the kernel
creates a core file, which is a snapshot of the memory for the
program, so that a developer can debug it
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1092[09:41:26] <darme> ok, where can find it?
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1093[09:42:09] <rjsalts> darme: depends on the core pattern, by
default it simply core in the working directory of the program
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1094[09:42:28] <darme> does it have any name pattern?
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1095[09:42:31] <rjsalts> darme: it may also be turned off, check
ulimit -c
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1096[09:42:44] <darme> its 0
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1097[09:42:48] <darme> :|
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1098[09:42:52] <rjsalts> darme: then it won't be created
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1100[09:44:39] <rjsalts> darme: you'll need to either mess
with the ulimit in whatever starts the X server, or you can use
prlimit to change the value in the running Xorg server
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1101[09:44:55] <darme> i i set ulimt -c 1, core files will be
created
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1102[09:45:01] <darme> ?
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1103[09:45:16] <locrian9> rjsalts: Here's the logs from
'/var/log/samba/log.smbd'
replaced-url
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1104[09:45:38] <rjsalts> darme: the first 1 meg will be dumped
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1105[09:46:11] <rjsalts> darme: you probably want ulimit -c
unlimited, but that needs to go in the init script/systemd unit that
starts X
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1106[09:46:43] <locrian9> rjsalts: wrong link. Here's the
correct one:
replaced-url
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1107[09:46:43] <rjsalts> locrian9: not sure what that means
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1108[09:46:53] <locrian9> rjsalts: wrong link. Here's the
correct one:
replaced-url
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1110[09:47:32] <locrian9> rjsalts: Sorry... After midnight here.
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1112[09:47:42] <ntz> hello
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1113[09:47:42] <darme> ok, i will set it to unlimited and hope
crash will happen again
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1119[09:52:12] <ntz> I've been punished by the weird and
cruel punishment that I have to do something with debian server(s)
now ... reading dpkg manual can't find it anywhere
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1120[09:52:21] <ntz> I have to do something like this
replaced-url
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1122[09:52:57] <ntz> I need to find within debian packages
something like a #vendor field that I'll be able to recognize
dpkg packages from 3rd parties
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1123[09:53:45] <ntz> in my paste above is example how I'd do
it with rpm just to demonstrate better what I need
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1140[10:02:33] <rjsalts> ntz: I think you want apt, not dpkg
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1144[10:03:37] <darme> ive set ulimit -c unlimited in
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, but after xserver restart ulimit -c shows
0, and ulimit shows unlimited. same with root user. did i enabled
core dumps?
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1146[10:05:05] <rjsalts> darme: prlimit is your friend, prlimit
[options] [--resource[=limits] [--pid PID]
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1150[10:05:56] <darme> it shows SOFT limit 0, HARD is unlimited.
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1151[10:06:03] <darme> for a CORE
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1152[10:06:10] <rjsalts> darme: so to find out on your Xserver,
just prlimit $(pidof X)
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1153[10:06:17] <darme> oh ok
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1155[10:07:14] <rjsalts> darme: correction -> sudo prlimit
--pid $(pidof X)
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1161[10:08:51] <ntz> rjsalts: okay, I can in-loop examinate all
packages with apt-cache show, but how do I grab on something like a
vendor field that is obviously NOT present here allowing me to
filter packages by it
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1162[10:08:56] <rjsalts> darme: and if it has the soft limit of
0, then sudo prlimit --core=unlimited: --pid $(pidof X)
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1165[10:09:50] <rjsalts> ntz: the vendor being debian or some
third party repo? right?
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1168[10:10:49] <ntz> yes, again, look please at my example output
from rpm
replaced-url
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1169[10:11:06] <rjsalts> ntz: I saw it
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1171[10:11:18] <towo^work> in debian the vendor allways is debian
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1172[10:11:27] <towo^work> there are no other official repos
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1173[10:11:28] <ntz> this is generally what I need to do with
debian .... however in real, I'd do it in rhel/suse completely
different, this is just low-level
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1177[10:12:13] <ntz> towo^work: no, we - company - have own
packages from own local repo and perhaps even more other packages
from elswhere
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1179[10:12:16] <darme> rjsalts: thank you, looks like i have
enabled core dumps
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1181[10:12:33] <ntz> I'm now trying to find out howto
distinguish them easily
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1184[10:12:43] <towo^work> ntz, the deb standard has no vendor
field
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1185[10:12:51] <rjsalts> ntz: I think apt-cache policy is as
close as it comes, but it will only tell you where things might come
from in an upgrade
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1188[10:13:29] <towo^work> you can put vendor in the version
string, like dmo does
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1190[10:14:02] <rjsalts> ntz: if you've got a package
installed already it won't say which repo it came from.
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1192[10:14:11] <ntz> okay, how do I just print a one field then
for all packages .... eg I want now to print field Filename: ...
with rpm I'd do: rpm -qa --queryformat
'%{whatever_field}\n'
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1194[10:14:27] <ntz> rjsalts: I see
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1197[10:14:48] <rjsalts> ntz: you could look at /var/log/apt/...
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1198[10:14:49] <ntz> however a Filename: field seems to me of
some significance
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1200[10:16:05] <solenoid> hello, I'm having some trouble
accessing my SDCard connected via Realtek SD card reader in my
laptop
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1201[10:16:11] <solenoid> I have debian 8 jessie
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1202[10:16:44] <solenoid> dmesg | tail gives me this message
" mmc0: error -5 whilst initialising SD card
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1203[10:16:44] <solenoid> "
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1204[10:17:07] <ntz> solenoid: nope, please give us exact error
as it is logged
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1205[10:17:09] <rjsalts> ntz: aptitude search "some
pattern" -F formatstring
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1207[10:17:20] <ntz> rjsalts: thanks !!!!!
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1208[10:17:42] <rjsalts>
replaced-url
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1209[10:17:43] <solenoid> ntz, the card isnt detected at all
actually
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1210[10:17:54] <solenoid> i cant access it
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1211[10:18:14] <solenoid> the only thing ive managed to get is
that dmesg thing
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1216[10:19:23] <rjsalts> ntz: For instance,
“!?origin(debian)” will find any unofficial packages on
your system (packages not from the Debian archive).
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1226[10:21:04] <solenoid> its like theres no output
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1228[10:21:47] <ntz> rjsalts: wait, wait .... reading an aptitude
manpage now the keys (eg %x) for -F ...
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1229[10:22:15] <ntz> how you'd went into
“!?origin(debian)” ???
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1233[10:23:57] <rjsalts> ntz: that's the search pattern, not
the format string
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1234[10:25:18] <rjsalts> ntz: the -F is from
replaced-url
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1235[10:25:58] <Iridos> rjsalts, uh… did you run that?
There's a ton of virtual packages that match that
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1236[10:27:04] <jelly> Iridos: maybe you have a lot of obsolete
virtual package that do not exist in debian any more
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1242[10:27:40] <Iridos> maybe
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1244[10:28:13] <Iridos> but they are - obviously - not installed
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1245[10:28:26] <rjsalts> Iridos: I was just reading out of the
examples in
replaced-url
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1248[10:29:10] <Iridos> that's from
/usr/share/doc/aptitude/README but with moar colors?
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1251[10:29:47] <rjsalts> aye
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1252[10:30:16] <Iridos> that readme is an abomination unto the
FSM and the gods of holy magical pink electric smoke and shoule be
banished into the manpage
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1253[10:30:24] <Iridos> should*
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1254[10:30:36] <shamoanjac> hey, what's the free as in
freedom package for opening RAR archives again?
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1255[10:30:59] <shamoanjac> (sorry for asking, every ddg results
eventually tells me to add the non-free repos in my sources.list)
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1257[10:31:15] <ntz> hmm
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1259[10:32:00] <Iridos> shamoanjac, would "apt-cache search
--names-only unrar" answer that?
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1262[10:32:56] <shamoanjac> oh, there is an unrar-free package
lol
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1263[10:32:58] <shamoanjac> thanks
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1264[10:33:00] <Iridos> ^^
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1266[10:34:36] <rjsalts> shamoanjac: p7zip-full can also deal
with rar files afaik
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1267[10:35:32] <rjsalts> shamoanjac: oh, I'm wrong needs
non-free p7zip-rar
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1270[10:36:06] <Iridos> judd, versions python2.7-minimal
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1271[10:36:07] <judd> Package: python2.7-minimal on amd64 --
wheezy: 2.7.3-6+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2.7.3-6+deb7u3; jessie:
2.7.9-2+deb8u1; sid: 2.7.13-2; stretch: 2.7.13-2
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1272[10:36:35] <Iridos> hm, no
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1275[10:36:53] <Iridos> one of them is v python2.7-minimal:any
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1276[10:37:01] <Iridos> judd, versions python2.7-minimal:any
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1278[10:37:01] <judd> No package named
'python2.7-minimal:any' was found in amd64.
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1279[10:37:18] <Iridos> and that's purely virtual but not
obsolete and it's shown by that aptitude command
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1284[10:40:54] <Iridos> judd, versions libboost-graph1.49.0
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1285[10:40:55] <judd> Package: libboost-graph1.49.0 on amd64 --
wheezy: 1.49.0-3.2
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1288[10:41:49] <Iridos> rjsalts, maybe more like …
aptitude search '?and(?installed,!?origin(debian))' and
even that finds stuff like that libboost which seems left over from
the upgrade from wheezy
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1290[10:42:49] <Iridos>
'?and(?installed,!?origin(debian))' | wc -l returns 367.
meh
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1293[10:42:52] <rjsalts> presumably virtual packages have no
origin because they're provided by another package and aptitude
search isn't looking at the metadata of that other thing when
evaluating the virtual
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1295[10:43:11] <wfq> Hi all
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1296[10:43:13] <shamoanjac> cap0ne,
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1298[10:43:27] <rjsalts> just ~i!?origin(debian) worked fine
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1299[10:43:44] <Iridos> yeah… or it does…
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1302[10:44:10] <rjsalts> aptitude search
'!?origin(debian)~i' | wc -l = 18
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1303[10:44:11] <Iridos> that's the same as mine, I
guess… you just use the short form ~i and some implicit form
of ?and()
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1311[10:45:11] <Iridos> of the ~400 I have, some seem to be
abandoned libraries from wheezy that didn't get removed on
upgrade, some seems to be backports… not sure if I made them
or if they are from bdo
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1312[10:45:21] <wfq> What's the best place to find anyone
who can help me to configure fail2ban or similar tools? Obviously
buying his/her services provided
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1313[10:45:32] <Iridos> and only a small fraction is genuinely
alien stuff like steam
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1314[10:45:52] <rjsalts> Iridos: ~i is a short form of ?installed
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1315[10:46:16] <mosasaur> after doing a dist-upgrade some things
were changed with respect to X11 forwarding that I don't like.
Is there some log of what changes there were?
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1317[10:46:22] <shamoanjac> Alien packages? On _my_ Debian?
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1318[10:46:30] <wfq> sorry, wrong channel...
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1319[10:46:45] <rjsalts> mosasaur: /var/log/apt/history.log
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1320[10:46:52] <shamoanjac> We're going to build a firewall,
and Valve is going to pay for it
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1321[10:47:01] <mosasaur> thanks rjsalts
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1326[10:48:20] <mosasaur> rjsalts: nothing there about X11
forwarding :(
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1328[10:49:06] <rjsalts> mosasaur: you're talking via ssh?
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1329[10:49:29] <mosasaur> anyway, I used to let nautilus handle
the desktop, that doesn't work anymore, but nemo still works
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1331[10:49:50] <ThiefMaster> hi, is there any easy way of
checking whether the system is debian or ubuntu? i have this command
in an install guide for our application and i'd like it to work
on both debian and ubuntu (for ubuntu the url needs to have `ubuntu`
instead of `debian`): echo "deb
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1332[10:50:18] <mosasaur> rjsalts: not now, but sometimes I log
in with another box via ssh -Y
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1334[10:50:51] <mosasaur> but some terminals now can't copy
paste via the mouse :(
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1335[10:51:12] <mosasaur> like gnome-terminal, but evilvte still
works
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1336[10:51:54] <rjsalts> ThiefMaster: lsb_release -ds
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1337[10:52:01] <mosasaur> also, settings I change via lxpanels
only work during one ssh session ..., the next time Iog in I have to
do it again
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1338[10:52:50] <rjsalts> ThiefMaster: or maybe lsb_release -is
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1339[10:52:51] <ThiefMaster> rjsalts: i was hoping for something
that doesn't contain the version. `lsb_release -is` seems
better. what does it return on debian jessie? (i just have an ubuntu
vm running right now where it returns 'Ubuntu')
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1342[10:53:09] <rjsalts> ThiefMaster: Debian
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1343[10:53:21] <ThiefMaster> ok great, that'll work fine if
i lowercase it
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1344[10:54:35] <mosasaur> also, somehow swapping mousebuttons to
left handed via a script doesn't work anymore
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1346[10:54:56] <mosasaur> but if I run the same script via the
desktop it works ...
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1348[10:55:27] <rjsalts> ThiefMaster: ${var,}
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1349[10:55:28] <mosasaur> I mean a script that I run in a ssh
script
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1353[10:56:53] <ntz> mosasaur: it affects the session bound on
existing display (eg DISPLAY= variable) so you should run that
script within your session initializatin
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1354[10:57:29] <rjsalts> rjsalts: in bash, anyhow -> export
distro=$(lsb_release -is);echo ${distro,}
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1355[10:57:40] <ntz> eg usually Austostart folder in your ~/.kde4
or ~/.config or wherever you have it
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1361[10:59:40] <mosasaur> ntz: yes thanks. I was also thinking it
could be something display related, I seems nautilus and nemo have
different ways of sticking to some display
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1365[11:00:26] <mosasaur> but if I add f.e. DISPLAY=:10 to the
mouse swapping script it doesn't work
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1366[11:01:03] <mosasaur> also, it doesn't explain lxpanel
not remembering changed settings
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1368[11:01:17] <ntz> mosasaur: it is not DISPLAY=:10, this is
usually your ssh-forwarding channel
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1370[11:01:41] <ntz> if you connect somewhere using ssh -X (or
-Y) it would be that, other wise it's usually DISPLA=:0
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1371[11:02:08] <mosasaur> ntz: yes, I was talking about ssh -Y
things
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1372[11:02:10] <ntz> s/other wise/otherwise/
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1373[11:02:32] <ntz> hmm
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1374[11:02:35] <mosasaur> the standard desktop is OK
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1375[11:02:58] <ntz> sorry then .... I didn't reread that
carefully
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1413[11:24:52] <OS-0007> LS
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1436[11:37:51] <paul_grozav> I have a "simple" program
that should run with gcc's thread sanitizer, however, at
runtime, after a data race warning, the program starts using memory
until all the memory is full and then it ends with a message like
"ThreadSanitizer CHECK failed: ... sanitizer_common.cc:118
"((0 && "unable to mmap")) != (0)" (0x0,
0x0)" any idea what's wrong with it?
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1442[11:43:27] <shamoanjac> well you just said what was wrong
with it :)
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1444[11:43:55] <shamoanjac> maybe you would rather want to ask
for a solution to the problem?
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1464[11:57:49] <ForceRecon> goodmorning Debian!
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1499[12:14:32] <ForceRecon> thanks for that explanation.. would
the cloak remove the endpoint or is that the origin - London
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1500[12:14:56] <ForceRecon> whoops
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1527[12:30:20] <paul_grozav> shamoanjac: yes, I'd like to
understand why it does what it does, or a solution to the problem
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1531[12:33:00] <shamoanjac> ha ha well I have no idea because I
am a useless human being paul_grozav
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1532[12:33:06] <shamoanjac> but it was fun
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1533[12:33:21] <paul_grozav> :)
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1587[13:02:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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1592[13:04:40] <ForceRecon> Have many people had any luck with 3
monitors on debian
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1600[13:08:26] <jelly> luck?
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1601[13:08:39] <nkuttler> monitors?
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1604[13:08:53] <jelly> have!
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1605[13:08:54] <teraflops> lol
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1606[13:09:05] <tremolo> many?
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1607[13:09:25] <teraflops> ForceRecon: being a bit more specific
won't hurt…
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1608[13:10:09] <teraflops> as in, which gpu/DE/WM/debian release
and so on
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1610[13:10:19] <jelly> output of xrandr
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1611[13:10:26] <inch> ForceRecon: I tried 4 monitors with 2
graphics cards but the performance was bad. 4 monitors in a single
card works just fine.
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1619[13:13:17] <teraflops> 2 graphics card sounds like two xorg
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1640[13:21:05] <ForceRecon> most of you know that once you
perfect your machine you like it.. I currently run debian on my
laptop which is awesome but I am limited to trying things since it
is not my primary
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1642[13:22:15] <coke> im so glad i dont have to perfect any
maschines anymore ;)
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1643[13:22:25] <shamoanjac> I wish I could maintain a system
stable for more than three months straight
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1645[13:22:29] <ForceRecon> I want to change my primary to
debian, but I use three monitor on a gtx 980, these are 3 24'
1920x1200 16:10s and I need to make sure that the video / resolution
and usage of these 3 monitors will remain the same
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1647[13:22:40] <shamoanjac> I blew up my main Debian install by
doing dist-upgrade
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1649[13:22:53] <shamoanjac> I'm not knowledgeable enough to
fix it quickly
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1650[13:23:10] <ForceRecon> well, that is my concern as well.. I
won't know unless I am using it constantly.. I did the same
thing about a week into using linux
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1653[13:23:23] <nkuttler> !tell shamoanjac about errors
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1655[13:23:33] <ForceRecon> has anyone had any luck using steam
on debian?
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1656[13:23:43] <ForceRecon> there is one game i play. I would
like to have it
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1657[13:23:45] <nkuttler> ForceRecon: many have...
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1658[13:23:49] <tremolo> I wouldn't call it luck, but it
seems to work.
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1660[13:24:11] <nkuttler> yeah, you're not exactly
"lucky" to get to run drm'd software..
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1661[13:24:14] <Voldenet> is "bad luck" part of any
luck?
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1662[13:24:28] <shamoanjac> is luck inherently bad or good?
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1663[13:24:34] <shamoanjac> this is #philosophy now
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1666[13:24:45] <tremolo> I have two monitors at home and at work;
haven't tried adding a third, but I would expect it to work
pretty similarly.
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1668[13:25:23] <ForceRecon> would this be accurate -
replaced-url
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1669[13:25:40] <nkuttler> !tell ForceRecon about steam
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1670[13:26:42] <petn-randall> shamoanjac: Do you need help fixing
that?
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1672[13:27:04] <jelly> ForceRecon: nvidia drivers, if you need
them, have had proper randr for 2-3 years at least
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1673[13:27:21] <jelly> no need for "twinview"
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1674[13:27:47] <ForceRecon> whoa.. what is the proper randr
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1676[13:28:09] <ForceRecon> RandR ("resize and rotate")
is a communications protocol written as an extension to the X11
protocol. XRandR provides the ability to resize, rotate and reflect
the root window of a screen.
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1678[13:28:32] <ForceRecon> how do you get the proper randr?
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1680[13:28:43] <shamoanjac> nah petn-randall, I'll get to it
some week-end
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1682[13:28:53] <shamoanjac> I'll finally get rid of Win10
anytime now
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1683[13:29:02] <teraflops> ForceRecon: if your laptop is optimus
powered take a look at
replaced-url
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1684[13:29:06] <shamoanjac> (as I've been promising I would
do for 4 months now)
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1687[13:30:10] <zOthix> How to install Ccg in debian ?
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1688[13:30:13] <ForceRecon> teraflops: I will be using the 3
monitors on my PC.. not the laptop..
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1691[13:31:31] <ForceRecon> the PC is more than adequate to do
anything.. I just hope that linux finds everything.. that's the
kicker.. in windows you can see if anything is not loading properly
with manager. In linux I am not that good yet where I can see what
did not load and then go.. okay I need this driver, let me get it ..
I have no idea how to install it at this point even if I found it
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1692[13:31:46] <ForceRecon> but I gather that is how you learn..
so I think I am ready to try it
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1696[13:32:34] <zOthix> How to install CCG in debian ?
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1697[13:32:59] <ForceRecon> I just know that getting back to
windows would be a long 2 days at least.. someone should make a
compatability program for windows that assures you that all your
hardware will work under debian before you install it
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1698[13:33:28] <tremolo> zOthix: What is CCG?
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1700[13:33:33] <mdlpe> hi, i try to install debian 9 on my laptop
but the touchpad doesn't works
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1701[13:33:38] <zOthix> A compiler
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1702[13:33:55] <coke> gcc maybe?
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1703[13:34:18] <zOthix> ye that xD
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1704[13:35:00] <coke> apt-get install build-essential
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1705[13:35:02] <tremolo> apt-get install gcc
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1706[13:35:09] <tremolo> or that
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1707[13:35:32] <zOthix> Thanks!
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1710[13:37:26] <teraflops> mdlpe: stretch uses libinput, so check
if the device is detected and (if yes) which options are
listed/enabled/disabled, you can enable disable things on the fly
using xinput
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1722[13:41:46] <ForceRecon> may I ask if someone can just take a
gander at these images and see if anything stands out that might not
function in stretch? -
replaced-url
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1730[13:45:02] <mdlpe> teraflops: can I do that when I install it
?
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1732[13:46:01] <ForceRecon> is there a live stretch dvd yet?
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1736[13:47:38] <kabo> Hi, I followed the guide on how to
configure a laptop to not suspend when you close the lid
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1737[13:47:47] <kabo> But now systemd-logind is taking 100% cpu
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1738[13:48:04] <kabo> and I have heaps of these in my auth.log
replaced-url
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1739[13:48:10] <tremolo> ForceRecon: like this?
replaced-url
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1741[13:48:33] <kabo> The command I ran: sudo systemctl mask
sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.target
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1743[13:50:07] <ForceRecon> tremolo: Thanks I was there but for
the
replaced-url
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1751[13:52:17] <kabo> Anyone know how to fix it?
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1752[13:52:50] <tremolo> kabo: From the manual for
systemctl/mask: "Mask one or more units, as specified on the
command line. This will link these unit files to /dev/null, making
it impossible to start them."
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1754[13:53:14] <tremolo> I'm not sure, but I think you might
want to unmask suspend.target
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1757[13:53:39] <kabo> ok... and just disable them instead of
masking them?
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1762[13:54:31] <tremolo> Well, I think it needs to use
suspend.target in order to suspend.
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1763[13:54:40] <Haohmaru> so i've installed debian8.8 32bit
onto a 7GB flash stick, and it works fine.. i also got a few other
flash sticks of the same model, and i thought i can just clone
them.. so i made a .img of the original with dd, and then used dd to
copy that .img onto another flash stick.. i plug it into the same
machine that ran this and after grub it says "initramfs
unpacking failed: uncompression error ...
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1764[13:54:40] <Haohmaru> kernel panic .." and doesn
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1765[13:54:42] <tremolo> It's been a while since I've
played with this.
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1767[13:54:49] <Haohmaru> ..doesn't work
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1770[13:55:17] <kabo> tremolo: well the point of the whole thing
is to have it not suspend
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1772[13:55:26] <kabo> I'm using it as a server
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1773[13:55:39] <Haohmaru> should this sort of thing work in
theory? cloning the installation from one flash stick onto another
one.. or did i do something wrong.. maybe with dd..
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1775[13:55:52] <Haohmaru> the original flash stick still boots up
as normal
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1776[13:56:24] <teraflops> Haohmaru: check if your dd went fine.
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1777[13:56:30] <Haohmaru> how?
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1778[13:56:34] * tremolo takes a -2 to reading comprehension before
coffee.
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1779[13:57:07] <Haohmaru> teraflops i was using conv=sync,noerror
<- should i remove the "noerror" part?
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1780[13:57:08] <teraflops> Haohmaru: fsck, or dd again with lower
BS=
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1781[13:57:32] <Haohmaru> i used bs=512 first, then 4096
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1782[13:57:40] <aryan> hey guys
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1783[13:57:43] <tremolo> Haohmaru: or sha1sum the disks
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1784[13:57:58] <aryan> whats going on
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1785[13:58:08] <tremolo> kabo: What does your
/etc/systemd/logind.conf look like?
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1786[13:58:20] <Haohmaru> btw, i did not copy the last gigabyte,
because it's unallocated space
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1787[13:58:28] <teraflops> Haohmaru: you cannot blame a thing not
booting after doing DD and telling it: do no stop if I find an
error…
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1788[13:58:57] <tremolo> Haohmaru: Then don't sha1sum the
disks.
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1789[13:59:07] <aryan> uhh how do we switch channels on hexchat?
first time on here
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1790[13:59:08] <teraflops> Haohmaru: yeah what a mess …
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1793[13:59:48] <kabo> tremolo:
replaced-url
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1794[14:00:00] <Haohmaru> i made the .img with arguments so it
only includes the first ~6GB, which includes the MBR, the ext4
partition, and the swap partition, but not the unallocated space
after that
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1797[14:00:26] <zOthix> how to run a c program after writing it
down and saving it
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1798[14:00:40] <zOthix> in gcc
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1799[14:00:43] <Haohmaru> or should i just dd the whole /dev/sdb
without "count" arguments?
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1800[14:01:03] <Haohmaru> blah.. i'll try
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1803[14:01:21] <kabo> HandleLidSwitch=ignore perhaps?
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1805[14:01:57] <zOthix> how to run a c program after writing it
down and saving it
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1815[14:03:20] <maxxe> stretch close! ;)
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1816[14:03:20] <tremolo> and uncomment it
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1817[14:03:27] <kabo> tremolo: yeah that seems to have worked.
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1818[14:03:37] <kabo> sweet, thanks for pointing me in the right
direction
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1821[14:04:12] <tremolo> Yeah, sorry I misunderstood at first.
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1822[14:04:13] <xochilpili> hi all
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1825[14:05:47] <Thraul> Does anyone know what time the release
starts for stretch? I would like to follow what is happening in the
IRC channels #debian-release etc for curiosity sake
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1829[14:06:37] <xochilpili> i have installed debian with dual
boot using fedora with grub2 installed using UEFI, but when i
finished installed debian, i reboot into fedora, use os-probe
&& grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/efi/EFI/grub.cfg, then i
have reboot and boot from debian but i got this error: gave up
waiting for root device /dev/dm-2 not found
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1830[14:06:46] <xochilpili> is there a way to fix this?
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1831[14:07:04] <xochilpili> ihave installed debian with lvm and
no grub or lilo
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1859[14:23:44] <aryan> hey
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1860[14:23:59] <aryan> anyone on?
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1861[14:24:03] <tremolo> sure
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1865[14:25:30] <aryan> with tor
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1866[14:25:50] <aryan> I need some help with tor*
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1870[14:26:47] <tremolo> I'm not actually familiar with tor.
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1878[14:31:00] <tremolo> xochilpili: It sounds like you need to
specify a root other than /dev/dm-2, but I'm not sure what the
right value would be.
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1880[14:31:30] <jelly> xochilpili: boot fedora again, pastebin
the output of "lsblk" and "blkid", run as root
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1888[14:34:26] <tw> debian style is
/dev/mapper/volumegroupname--vg-volname ; the vgname is often the
short hostname. for example, my fs root device arg is
root=/dev/mapper/oculus3--vg-root
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1891[14:34:49] <tw> it's important to note that those dmXXX
devices aren't necessarily probed in the same order every time.
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1896[14:38:12] <ForceRecon> thats a first.. downloaded live
testing iso.. went to burn with brasero and it failed at the end
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1902[14:38:55] <ForceRecon> BraseroLibburn called
brasero_job_error
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1903[14:38:55] <ForceRecon> BraseroLibburn finished with an error
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1904[14:38:56] <jelly> tw: those two -- are there when your vg or
lv has a - in its name
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1906[14:39:28] <ForceRecon> An error occurred while writing to
disc (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2856)
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1907[14:39:28] <jelly> tw: so you have a VG named
"oculus3-vg" and a lv names "root" in it
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1908[14:39:33] <ForceRecon> bad disc?
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1922[14:45:28] <Haohmaru> well, nope, after writing to
flashstick2, sha1sum doesn't match
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1923[14:45:29] <xochilpili> jelly, here:
replaced-url
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1924[14:46:00] <xochilpili> jelly, blkid empty output
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1937[14:48:24] <aryan> Installing tor browser right now, I keep
getting the same error, "Error Starting download: User timeout
caused the connection failure. Are you connected to the
internet?" Anyone have any tips?
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1942[14:50:30] <jelly> xochilpili: so I guess you could edit the
grub menu entry and in the linux ... line put
"root=/dev/mapper/conflictive--vg-root" instead of
root=whatever you have now, then try to boot
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1944[14:51:20] <jelly> or not
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1990[15:11:53] <xochilpili> jelly, i have just edited cfg file
from fedora, and now it works
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1992[15:12:57] <ForceRecon> what is localisation support
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2003[15:14:00] <Haohmaru> ForceRecon it's the mechanism for
a given program or whole OS to be translated to some language
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2004[15:14:21] <ForceRecon> when I am testing stretch live dvd
what option should I choose> the first? the 2nd option says with
localisation support..
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2009[15:14:37] <Hex__> Hi
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2012[15:16:29] <Haohmaru> localisation.. a horror
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2017[15:19:26] <ForceRecon> no matter what machine i put linux on
I continue to get this software rendering mode.. how do I fix this
from the get go?>
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2019[15:20:56] <teraflops> ForceRecon: you keep being vague, the
less information you give the less help youll receive
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2021[15:22:27] <ForceRecon> there really isnt more to that then I
am telling you.. when the machine boots each time, main screen comes
up.. pop says Running in Software Rendering Mode. This could be a
problem with your drivers or something else. you only use this mode
for troubleshooting
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2024[15:22:46] <ForceRecon> there is nothing more I can give
you.. its just there
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2025[15:22:51] <jelly> ForceRecon: are you using live image with
firmware or without? recent graphic cards all need fw for complete
support even with free drivers, maybe you're hitting that
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2027[15:23:23] <tremolo> ForceRecon: What is your graphics card?
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2029[15:24:00] <ForceRecon> jelly: gtx 980 8g
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2030[15:24:08] <ForceRecon> nvidia
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2031[15:24:20] <teraflops> ForceRecon: there is a bit much more
you can tell, so people do not have to start questioning you as they
are doing right now
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2033[15:24:49] <ForceRecon> teraflops: if I knew what to tell you
more I would.. so sorry I cannot be more informative
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2034[15:24:50] <jelly> ForceRecon: it's possible that thing
is not supported for 3d in nouveau at all
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2036[15:25:26] <ForceRecon> I don't want 3d.. you think this
is referring to that?
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2037[15:25:44] <jelly> that's exactly what it's
referring to
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2038[15:25:55] <jelly> Gnome uses 3d by default
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2041[15:26:12] <jelly> refering*
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2042[15:26:25] <jelly> Curse you, http protocol.
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2043[15:26:41] <ForceRecon>
replaced-url
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2044[15:27:10] <ForceRecon> so just ignore it? or install nvidia
drivers
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2051[15:28:20] <jelly> ForceRecon: just ignore it in live. You
can't easily install nvidia drivers there because they require
a reboot
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2054[15:28:31] <ForceRecon> okay thanks..
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2060[15:29:33] <tw> maxwell-series NV cards are supported by
nouveau, but I've no idea what driver version is on the livecd.
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2066[15:29:59] <dionysus69> what does it indicate when my
icmp_sequence number jumps from 15 to 25 lets say, I am missing 10
replies?
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2067[15:30:13] <dionysus69> so there is a lag in ping and after
some time I get 25th
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2068[15:30:14] <tw> dionysus69: exactly that.
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2069[15:30:39] <tw> not lag, dropped replies.
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2070[15:30:41] <dionysus69> how can I troubleshoot this? i am
using local windows server as dns to find clients over openvpn
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2072[15:31:09] <Hex__> I installed fresh Debian 8 today on my
Laptop Lenovo b590, but unfortunately couldn't detecting my
wifi, I tried to fixed this issue, but couldn't fixed that
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2073[15:31:16] <jelly> it's a networking issue, you
troubleshoot the network between two endpoints
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2074[15:31:28] <dionysus69> I really need to resolve this, who
knows what else maybe dropping, and I dont get it why it works half
of the time, dropps 10 and then resumes works for 10 and again
drops... :S
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2076[15:31:35] <dionysus69> jelly: can you help ? :D
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2077[15:31:44] <dionysus69> I am not good at networking :S
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2078[15:31:52] <jelly> I can point you to ##networking channel
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2079[15:32:00] <dionysus69> knew that was coming :D
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2080[15:32:11] <dionysus69> thanks anyway :)
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2087[15:33:10] <ForceRecon> kinda makes it hard to test.. only
one screen works.. no wireless... can't install anything for
live and don't want to install since I am not sure I can get it
to work on my own
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2088[15:33:13] <ForceRecon> tuogh call
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2090[15:34:45] <mtn> ForceRecon: can you make a partition on the
hard drive to test the installation?
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2091[15:35:08] <jelly> ForceRecon: are you using live image with
firmware or the normal one? wireless usually needs firmware
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2092[15:35:16] <jelly> !firmware live
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2093[15:35:16] <dpkg> Unofficial <live> images - containing
non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for using Debian 8
"jessie" as a live OS are available under
replaced-url
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2095[15:36:20] <jelly> go a couple directories up to
replaced-url
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2096[15:36:23] <ForceRecon> I am testing stretch
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2098[15:37:27] <ForceRecon>
replaced-url
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2099[15:37:37] <ForceRecon> I think thats it
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2100[15:37:47] <ForceRecon> I will try that one
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2112[15:44:12] <ForceRecon> I thought I read something about
multiarch
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2119[15:47:42] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: That isn't a live
image, though. That's the stretch rc5 installer.
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2125[15:48:40] <ForceRecon> interesting.. thanks
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2126[15:48:43] <ForceRecon> reading on it now
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2133[15:52:58] <xochilpili> is there a way to remove icons from
desktop?
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2135[15:54:11] <mtn> xochilpili: most likely. which desktop are
you using? gnome?
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2137[15:54:41] <xochilpili> mtn, mate
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2139[15:55:51] <mtn> xochilpili:
replaced-url
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2143[15:57:38] <jelly> ForceRecon: sorry, live images are in
weekly-live-builds/ probably
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2150[16:00:36] <Aebian> hmm I always press ALT + G for about 2
seconds and then I can enter the command mode in vi. I guess there
should be a better way? Keyboard layout is en_NA
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2153[16:01:03] <petemc> esc ?
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2156[16:01:33] <Aebian> indeed lol thx
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2157[16:01:54] <Bliepo> When upgrading to stretch, do I need to
worry about packages I have installed from backports?
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2158[16:02:26] <shamoanjac> is Stretch out yet?
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2160[16:02:39] <shamoanjac> Can't wait to finally install it
on my main PC
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2161[16:02:53] <ForceRecon> okay.. so there is no way to test
machine with firmware live dvd
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2162[16:02:57] <ForceRecon> hmmm
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2163[16:03:03] <Bliepo> No, it's not out yet
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2164[16:03:10] <Bliepo> 17th I think?
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2165[16:03:25] <ForceRecon> Grrrr.. I want it now ;)
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2167[16:03:46] <Bliepo> Well, it is in feature freeze already, so
should be fairly stable
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2169[16:03:52] <ForceRecon> I hope it comes out Friday.. I can
work on it all weekend
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2171[16:05:43] <Bliepo> I just hope upgrading goes without an
issue
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2173[16:06:47] <ForceRecon> you and me both.. Going to wipe out
my entire machine in hopes this all works properly.. Should be fun,
can't wait :)
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2174[16:06:53] <jelly> ForceRecon: how did you come from
"pick iso in different directory" to "there is no way
to test"
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2176[16:07:02] <simpledat> Im using OpenVPN via command line to
connect to my VPN on my current Linux distro. My problem is, I
can't find any way to add a killswitch or prevent fallback to
my default connection when the VPN goes out. Basically, I want to
find a simple method to prevent my VPN to fallback to default
connection if it goes out. I just want my connection to be dead
until the VPN connection is restored?
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2177[16:07:17] <jelly> ForceRecon:
replaced-url
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2178[16:07:32] <mtn> ForceRecon: why don't you test it on
the hard drive? in a seperate partition
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2180[16:08:02] <xochilpili> how can i list all installed packages
?
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2181[16:08:04] <ForceRecon> jelly: the live dvd does not have
firmware, the one we discussed is just an installer.. well I could
do that..
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2182[16:08:15] <tamiko> simpledat: Remove the default rout over
the default connection and only add a specific route to your VPN
server.
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2183[16:08:17] <jelly> > ForceRecon: sorry, live images are in
weekly-live-builds/ probably
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2185[16:08:56] <High_Priest> xochilpili, dpkg -l
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2186[16:09:11] <xochilpili> thanks!
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2188[16:09:32] <ForceRecon> I am going to install a second drive
and reattempt.. However, since there is only 3 days till release.. I
think I might just wait and then continue to use stetch in my vmware
session just to keep working in it
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2189[16:09:35] <tamiko> simpledat: If you want to be a bit more
fancy, you can also create an alternative routing table (only using
the VPN connection) and mark all connections of a specific user to
use that table (google for "policy routing iptables").
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2190[16:09:40] <ForceRecon> thanks though for all the support and
help and advice..
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2191[16:09:44] <ForceRecon> gonna be good
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2197[16:12:08] <xochilpili> how can i know what version of gtk im
using ?
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2198[16:14:12] <darme> if i want to do some customizations to
my.cnf for mariadb i should directly edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf?
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2204[16:15:56] <darme> /etc/ysql/my.cnf is actually soft link to
/etc/alternatives/my.cnf
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2206[16:16:23] <Hex__> Guys I did this but not any clue
replaced-url
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2207[16:16:38] <Hex__> would please help me out of this
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2208[16:17:07] <ForceRecon> apt-cache show transmission-gtk
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2210[16:17:41] <ForceRecon> libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.3.16)
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2213[16:22:07] <galex-713> Do someone know if there’s an
agar.io free-software client?
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2214[16:22:16] <galex-713> or at least an agar.io-like
free-software game?
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2219[16:24:58] <Haohmaru> i'm failing to write the .img onto
fresh new usb sticks.. dafuq!
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2221[16:25:18] <Haohmaru> one of them even stopped working
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2235[16:30:01] <xochilpili> i have installed debian with mate,
but what kind of theme i should download from gnome-look ? for gtk
or gnome ?
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2236[16:30:03] <Haohmaru> is it common for a decent-looking flash
stick to stop working?
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2237[16:30:06] <xochilpili> is mate using gnome?
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2240[16:30:33] <cusco> hello floks
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2241[16:30:46] <Haohmaru> floks :>
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2242[16:30:48] <mtn> xochilpili: no, mate is not gnome
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2246[16:32:08] <xochilpili> mtn, but what kind of theme i need to
download, i have downloaded a gtk3 theme but everything messed up
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2247[16:32:25] <mtn> xochilpili: mate uses gtk2, if I recall
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2249[16:33:09] <xochilpili> mtn, ok let me try
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2254[16:33:47] <cusco> so.. I'm in big trouble with grub and
booting the system...
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2255[16:33:55] <Sukha> /msg NickServ REGISTER root
Sukhmander540@gmail.com
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2256[16:34:07] <cusco> basically, we have 4 disks with mdadm raid
10
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2257[16:34:39] <cusco> and we replaced all four disks.. with
larger disks (the last one is synching in mdadm now)
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2258[16:35:02] <cusco> the trouble is.. we have a regular legacy
bios.. and we moved to GPT in the disks.. because partition size
issues
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2261[16:35:34] <cusco> now in dowing this we've created a
extra small partition and flagged it with "bios_grub"
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2263[16:36:05] <cusco> now I'm having trouble booting with
grub... it drops to a grub rescue
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2264[16:36:22] <cusco> im not sure if grub-install is installing
stuff on that small partition
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2265[16:36:47] <Bliepo> The easiest way to solve this would
probably be using a seperate msdos formatted disk for the boot
partition
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2266[16:36:59] <Hex__> Would please take look at this link
replaced-url
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2269[16:37:15] <cusco> Bliepo: don't have any more disk
slots
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2270[16:37:35] <Hex__> I'm trying to install wifi card but
doesn't worked
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2271[16:37:38] <cusco> right now im booting from a usb live linux
drive, and chrooting
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2273[16:38:18] <tw> cusco: Did you change the mdraid metadata
format when you created the new raid10?
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2274[16:38:23] <Bliepo> cusco:
replaced-url
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2276[16:38:37] <tremolo> Hex__: Looks like the packages you want
aren't on the media you have. Might want to add a network
mirror.
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2277[16:38:47] <jhutchins_wk> cusco: You should be able to build
a usb with /boot on it and use that, but get creative! I've
used double-sided tape to mount drives.
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2281[16:39:19] <cusco> tw i'm not remembering mdraid
metadata.. or the raid process... mdadm assembles easely (from live
OS) and in grub rescue I can see (md/0)
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2282[16:39:25] <cusco> thou I canot list its contents
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2283[16:39:35] <Hex__> How can I do this tremolo ?
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2289[16:40:50] <tremolo> Hex__: Something like this: echo
"deb
replaced-url
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2290[16:40:59] <tremolo> then: apt-get update
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2292[16:41:10] <Hex__> thanks I'll do now
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2293[16:41:15] <tremolo> made a typo
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2294[16:41:26] <tremolo> echo "deb
replaced-url
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2296[16:41:37] <tremolo> not sources/list
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2299[16:42:21] <jhutchins_wk> Hex__: I don't see the
problem. The first part of your paste appears to show wlan0 up with
an address.
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2300[16:42:24] <tw> cusco: linux speaks more metadata formats
than grub does. may want to check that mdadm --detail shows a either
0.9 or 1.0 superblock format.
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2303[16:43:03] <jhutchins_wk> Hex__: Also appears from the packet
count to be passing traffic.
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2304[16:43:04] <tw> but if grub rescule is showing md/0, I'd
think you're good
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2307[16:44:13] <cusco> jhutchins_wk: its not about slots or boot
by use. i would rather make it work properly. I guess i could use a
usb /boot yes, but I would rather avoid it!!
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2310[16:44:51] <cusco> tw: from mdadm detail, where do I find the
superblock format?
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2311[16:45:13] <cusco> tw:
replaced-url
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2313[16:45:33] <Hex__> jhutchins_wk I already connected Alfa
dongle by USB
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2316[16:46:43] <tw> cusco: Version : 1.2
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2317[16:46:43] <cusco> so.. I also tried removing grub packages,
re-installing
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2318[16:46:50] <cusco> ah that version, ok
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2320[16:47:15] <cusco> i'm not sure how to check if
/dev/sda1 (flagged with bios grub) has grub stuff in it
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2323[16:47:26] <cusco> nor if grub tries to find it at boot time
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2324[16:47:42] <tw> there's a linux raid channel here, but I
can't remember the name of it. There might be some magic you
can do without rebuilding everything.
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2325[16:48:07] <cusco> tw grub was booting from raid fine before,
the thing now is I moved from MBR to GPT
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2326[16:48:27] <cusco> ok taking a look at Bliepo's link now
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2327[16:48:37] <tw> well maybe I'm out of date then.
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2328[16:49:53] <Hex__> tremolo would please take look at link
again
replaced-url
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2329[16:50:18] <Hex__> I did that but doesn't worked again
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2334[16:51:14] <tremolo> After adding the deb line to
sources.list, you need to do: apt-get update
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2335[16:51:26] <Hex__> ok
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2345[16:56:20] <cusco> ok so I guess grub-install does use the
small partition with bios_grub flag
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2365[17:06:01] <darme> how to know which file i should configure,
so updates wont break my changes?
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2367[17:06:20] <darme> im talking about mariadb configuration
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2370[17:07:12] <cusco> darme: you can place custom configurations
in conf.d folder
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2371[17:07:16] <cusco> so in /etc/mysql/conf.d/
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2372[17:08:10] <jhutchins_wk> darme: The apt system is designed
not to overwrite configuration files that have been changed.
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2373[17:08:44] <jhutchins_wk> darme: Most package managers at
least ask before they update a config file.
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2398[17:23:35] <Hex__> tremolo thanks, I already installed that
package but my wifi doesn't works
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2400[17:25:04] <jhutchins_wk> Hex__: It sure looked like your
wifi was working in your paste.
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2401[17:25:44] <Hex__> That's Alfa card I connected with USB
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2407[17:26:45] <Hex__> jhutchins_wk my laptop card is this
"Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
(rev 01) "
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2418[17:31:11] <Hex__> Guys would please take look at the link
replaced-url
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2419[17:31:30] <Hex__> and tell me any idea for this?
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2431[17:36:19] <tremolo> Hex__: Have you looked at this?
replaced-url
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2433[17:37:08] <Hex__> yes
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2436[17:39:10] <Hex__> I'll check again, because I checked
before adding that to list
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2441[17:42:46] <haylon> Can/Does InSpec inherit the attributes
from a cookbook, if being ran for cookbook testing?
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2444[17:44:24] <jelly> haylon: was that meant for #debian
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2446[17:44:29] <Hex__> tremolo Thanks
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2447[17:44:33] <haylon> err.
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2448[17:44:40] <Hex__> it's working now tremolo
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2449[17:44:43] <haylon> woops. thought I clicked on the wrong
one.
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2450[17:44:46] <tremolo> Awesome
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2451[17:44:54] <Hex__> Thanks mate
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2453[17:45:00] <tremolo> No problem
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2475[17:55:50] <cusco> hey, so my problem with grub is actually
the following:
replaced-url
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2477[17:56:01] <cusco> "found two disks with the index 0 for
raid md/0"
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2478[17:56:08] <cusco> and "unknown filesystem"
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2480[17:56:16] <cusco> not really sure about this
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2500[18:03:55] <JordiGH> There's a Python pip package I need
to install system-wide. There's some tool somewhere that will
build an ad-hoc .deb out of it, isn't there?
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2502[18:05:09] <ntz> hello
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2504[18:05:45] <ntz> in deb 7.11 is
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules generated, correct ?
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2505[18:06:09] <greycat> yes.
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2509[18:08:22] <ntz> okay, thanks ....
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2524[18:13:25] <gabluc> Probably answered many times but, if I
install Stretch via RC installer now I won't have to reinstall
again on stable release?
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2525[18:13:53] <jelly> gabluc: nope, you can just patch it up,
but there may be minor differences in the end result
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2534[18:16:54] <gabluc> jelly: It won't affect system
stability?
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2537[18:17:59] <jelly> it's hard to tell in advance what
specific changes are going to be made between now and then
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2540[18:18:50] <jelly> so, probably not, gabluc, unless you hit
some specific last minute issue
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2543[18:19:12] <greycat> A reinstall between current-testing and
stretch-release would be extremely silly.
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2550[18:20:58] <gabluc> greycat: there are moments in life when
your brain is scratched by silly questions
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2553[18:21:28] <niko1990> Hello everyone =)
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2554[18:21:40] <greycat> One of Debian's strong points is
that you never need to reinstall it unless you go out of your way to
break it.
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2555[18:21:58] <greycat> There are systems that were installed
decades ago, and simply upgraded every couple years.
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2557[18:22:55] <JordiGH> That seems so quaint now.
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2560[18:23:14] <sbef98> 1
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2561[18:23:16] <JordiGH> In this age of Docker VM server blades
and replaceable data centres, the OS seems so disposable.
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2562[18:23:37] <JordiGH> Why upgrade Debian when you can just buy
new hardware.
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2563[18:23:55] <sbef98> because i am too poor to buy new hardware
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2564[18:24:02] <sbef98> that's really simple
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2565[18:24:04] <pspk> Hello everyone !
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2566[18:24:04] <JordiGH> Not Google enough.
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2569[18:25:06] <greycat> I tried using a VM once. Every time I
copied a GB or so of data across the network interface, it stopped
networking. Entirely. So I gave up.
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2570[18:25:22] <JordiGH> You also have "grey" in your
username.
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2574[18:25:57] <JordiGH> Get with the times, gramps.
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2579[18:27:22] <ForceRecon> Good Afternoon
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2581[18:27:50] * bezaban still doesn't have his workstation or
laptop in a container, vm, on a blade or in a dc.
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2585[18:28:54] <petn-randall> bezaban: I just yell shell commands
at my phone and Siri executes it on my server for me.
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2586[18:28:56] <jelly> JordiGH: both are means to the same end,
keeping services runnig. If your services are cloudy and
horizontally scalable, sure, treat single installations as
disposable
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2587[18:29:52] <jelly> whatever works for you to optimize for
least downtime and/or least admin (= MY!) time spent
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2589[18:31:12] <bezaban> petn-randall: should get a dot and do
the same!
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2590[18:31:38] <bezaban> computer, ls -l
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2602[18:34:11] <Haohmaru> how can i access a file which is
located onto a samba ntfs share, from console (dd or ddrescue) ?
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2604[18:34:43] <Haohmaru> would something like
//server/location/file work or do i have to "mount" the
share onto a local folder first?
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2605[18:34:49] <jelly> Haohmaru: a share on a remote computer?
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2606[18:35:02] <Haohmaru> yes, it's on another debian
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2607[18:35:19] <jelly> you need to mount it yes
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2608[18:35:22] <Haohmaru> i see the folder/file with pcmanfm
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2609[18:35:27] <Haohmaru> okay
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2611[18:36:35] <Haohmaru> something like this: "mount -t
cifs //the/windows/sharename /the/linux/mountpoint" ?
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2612[18:37:06] <Haohmaru> i only need this temporarily, so i
don't need it permanently like with fstab
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2619[18:38:07] <tremolo> Haohmaru: mount.cifs //$HOST/$SHARE
$MOUNTPOINT
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2621[18:38:22] <tremolo> Is what I have in my history
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2623[18:38:47] <tremolo> I think you can also use smbclient
without mounting if you just want to grab a file or two.
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2626[18:39:35] <Haohmaru> no, i'm doing this from a live usb
stick, i don't have the luxury to copy the 7GB iso locally
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2632[18:40:13] <tremolo> Fair enough
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2637[18:40:43] <fun> Any movie fan?
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2641[18:41:22] <SuperSeriousCat> No
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2654[18:48:29] <Haohmaru> can't get mount.cifs to work
because apt-get fails to obtain some packages
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2655[18:48:36] <Haohmaru> grrr
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2663[18:49:49] <jelly> Haohmaru: don't forget to apt-get
update
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2669[18:53:12] <jelly> Haohmaru: if your server is linux with ssh
you can avoid cifs and just use sftp (sshfs is a nice sftp client if
you want to mount remote stuff)
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2691[19:00:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> Which source to use for debian 6?
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2692[19:00:37] <Haohmaru> dd if=sftp?
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2693[19:00:46] <TyrfingMjolnir> Choosing those from the installer
gives me a red screen
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2695[19:01:28] <greycat> Debian 6 is archived. You won't be
able to get packages during the install. Just finish the install
with no sources, then add them afterward.
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2696[19:01:45] <greycat> !squeeze sources.list
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2697[19:01:45] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb
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2698[19:02:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> I would like to upgrade do debian
8, can I do this in 1 go?
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2701[19:02:15] <greycat> No. Have to do one release at a time.
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2702[19:02:20] <UukGoblin> dh_make put
"usr/lib/lib*.so.*" in debian/mylib.install, however
dh_auto_configure seems to have passed
--libdir=${prefix}/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu to ./configure...
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2703[19:02:25] <greycat> Why not simply install Debian 8
directly?
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2705[19:02:41] <UukGoblin> is this expected? does it make sense?
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2707[19:02:45] <jelly> Haohmaru: what do you plan to do with dd?
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2708[19:02:52] <francine> 3 days left, I can't wait that
looong! D
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2709[19:02:53] <francine> :D
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2710[19:03:33] <Haohmaru> jelly write a iso onto the hdd
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2711[19:03:45] <jhutchins_wk> TyrfingMjolnir: Once the target
release goes out of support the chances of a successful upgrade
start dropping.
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2712[19:03:52] <Haohmaru> but i managed to mount it with
mount.cifs now
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2713[19:04:03] <jelly> UukGoblin: ask in #packaging over on OFTC
network if you don't get an answer here. If you package for
Debian, you can also ask in #debian-mentors also on OFTC
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2714[19:04:13] <UukGoblin> jelly, thanks
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2720[19:10:26] <jelly> TyrfingMjolnir: no, you absolutely have to
do each release upgrade step one by one. There's code in place
to make release upgrades work, and gets removed after one release
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2721[19:11:02] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: out of support doesn't
have anything to do with it. It's always from release N to N+1,
no skipping
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2725[19:12:31] <jelly> you can still do debian 5 -> debian 6
even if they're both unsupported
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2727[19:12:57] <jelly> and in fact I just bumped one very old
installation 5->6 and 6->7 last month
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2728[19:14:00] <greycat> (I still don't know why you'd
want to install Debian 6 and then immediately upgrade it, vs.
installing the newer version in the first place.)
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2730[19:14:24] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone got a link to the x86 net
inst for debian 8?
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2731[19:14:30] <greycat> !netinst
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2732[19:14:31] <dpkg> methinks netinst is a small CD image with
which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process
you have a working Internet connection, you can install more
packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and
more packages later. See
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2735[19:14:36] <jelly> TyrfingMjolnir: 32bit?
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2736[19:14:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> Got it
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2737[19:14:42] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: One of the difficulties is
that if your target isn't current it's hard to get support
if you have upgrade problems.
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2741[19:15:08] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: then you ask here.
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2744[19:15:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> Now how do I trick this image
into the VMWare folder?
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2745[19:15:27] <webuser5224> I just updated Jessie and now
I'm upgrading to Stretch, but I guess I lack the proper
knowledge to find out if everything was successful.
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2746[19:15:31] <jelly> and you get pointed to very old release
notes anyway
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2748[19:15:45] <jhutchins_wk> I had some trouble on
lenny->squeeze after wheezy had been out for a while and I
couldn't resolve it. Probably some oddball packages or
something.
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2749[19:15:55] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: did you ask in here?
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2751[19:16:16] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: Yes, I did. Only response I
got was "you waited too long to upgrade".
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2752[19:16:38] <jelly> that was a silly response, whoever gave it
owns you some beers
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2754[19:16:44] <jelly> owes*
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2757[19:17:26] <jhutchins_wk> Clean builds can be a good
catharsis too though.
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2758[19:17:47] <jelly> definitely
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2759[19:18:04] <teraflops> nah, what's the point of
reinstalling debian every release?
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2761[19:18:15] <jelly> sometimes not easily avoidable, eg. if you
want to switch architectures
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2762[19:18:23] <greycat> Some people have this anal-retentive
desire to have everything be *perfect*.
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2763[19:18:34] <teraflops> that corner case is a big corned
indeed
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2764[19:18:40] <jelly> teraflops: the point is to see if
installer is still as ugly!
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2765[19:18:44] <teraflops> hhe
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2767[19:19:14] <teraflops> eh, I had to to do clean installs too,
but that's the last resort
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2768[19:19:22] <jhutchins_wk> A long chain of upgrades can leave
you with a lot of cruft too.
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2769[19:19:23] <teraflops> to/
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2773[19:20:21] <jelly> nothing like finding pieces of libc5 in
2015.
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2775[19:20:34] <spacebug^> I had to do a clean install once. Went
to Thailand on vacation, came back after two weeks, could not
remeber the LUKS password.. or the login password! *facepalm*
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2778[19:20:59] <jelly> otoh it must have been a great vacation
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2779[19:21:03] <spacebug^> it was :)
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2780[19:21:05] * mtn wonders what happened in Thailand ;)
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2781[19:21:27] <teraflops> spacebug^: yeah you killed a lot of
neurons in thailand
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2783[19:21:51] <spacebug^> Actually I think I finally relaxed
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2785[19:22:25] <spacebug^> however, all the most important files
are encrypted and put in the cloud, and that password I remebered
heh
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2787[19:23:16] <webuser5224> greycat, yes, me! :(
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2789[19:23:30] <teraflops> I barely remember 6 digits smartcards
pins these days :S
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2791[19:24:07] <spacebug^> teraflops: :) Not like the old days
when you kept every friends mobile number in your head
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2792[19:24:13] <teraflops> xD
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2794[19:24:28] <greycat> In the old days, there were no
"mobiles".
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2796[19:25:21] <spacebug^> greycat: eveyone have different
reference frames I guess hehe. (born 1980)
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2806[19:30:43] <lgeurts> Born in '61 so I guess I am one of
the oldest here. Just lurking a bit.
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2838[19:48:01] <ForceRecon> we had beepers
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2842[19:48:09] <ForceRecon> and a dime for a phone call
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2843[19:48:32] <greycat> In a few years, you'll get to
explain to the kids what a phone booth was.
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2844[19:48:36] <ForceRecon> from a pay phone.. whoa...
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2845[19:48:50] <ForceRecon> those were the days..
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2849[19:49:26] <ForceRecon> today kids have no clue how to do
anything but glue their faces to a electronic device..
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2850[19:49:41] <francine> lol
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2853[19:50:10] <BluesKaj> heh, not just kids
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2854[19:50:14] <ForceRecon> anyone here using winehq or crossover
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2857[19:50:19] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Get off mylawn!
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2860[19:51:52] <ForceRecon> just putting in the cams.. nothing to
see here.
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2862[19:52:10] <greycat> But your lawn has all those Pokemon on
it.
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2876[19:57:47] <sawgood> Hi: just installed Debian 8.8.0 (from)
Net-Install CD ISO .... and I had a few questions ... #1: we cannot
SSH into the box as "root" (and) I think we need to make a
settings change to allow this ... (any tips)
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2877[19:58:15] <greycat> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and turn on
the PermitRootLogin option
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2879[19:58:23] <sawgood> #2: Can you help with a tip on how to
make the box (start up) in "runlevel 3" (CLI) and not
"runlevel 5" (GUI)
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2882[19:58:32] <sawgood> greycat: thank you ... cool nick
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2883[19:58:52] <greycat> for #2, systemctl set-default
multi-user.target
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2885[19:59:07] <sawgood> nice ... doing both of those tips now
(thanks)!
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2887[19:59:46] <sawgood> greycat: on a sidebar, does Debian
(still not allow) the "root" user to login via the GUI (is
this disabled)
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2888[20:00:02] <greycat> I would hope that is still disallowed.
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2890[20:00:09] <sawgood> yep yep ...
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2891[20:00:16] <sawgood> perfect ...
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2892[20:00:19] <greycat> I'm not a desktop environment user
myself.
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2893[20:00:59] <sawgood> yeah: I am returning to Debian after a
long break of using just our existing Debian (non GUI) boxes ...
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2900[20:04:42] <jelly> there're some kids in their 60s here
so no, not yet
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2903[20:05:36] <jhutchins_wk> Does Debian install/start sshd by
default?
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2904[20:05:52] <greycat> No, but there's a checkbox option
for it in the installer.
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2910[20:06:59] <ForceRecon> I should start a debian linux user
group in my local area.. be kinda nice to get out meet people and
figure stuff out together
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2913[20:07:18] <teraflops> I cannot remember, does it enable the
socket when you install it?
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2928[20:16:31] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Probabably better to
make it general Linux, you'd have a better chance getting a
critical mass.
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2944[20:22:42] <sawgood> greycat: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config the
only statement there is: PermitRootLogin wihtout-password (and) it
is already uncheckmarked
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2946[20:23:10] <Lyberta> hi, I'm trying to migrate from
VirtualBox to KVM, I've converted my disk image to qcow2 but
when I launch it, I get empty Grub menu, I've tried to boot
into netinst ISO and go into rescue mode but it can't reinstall
grub or launch shell
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2947[20:23:12] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk: yeah.. basics from the
start..
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2948[20:23:13] <greycat> If you intend to login as root with a
password instead of a keypair, then you need it to be
"PermitRootLogin yes"
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2950[20:24:20] <sawgood> yes and later we will add a SSH-key ...
this is just to allow system building for now (via) remote SSH stuff
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2951[20:24:42] <greycat> that's fine
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2954[20:25:07] <teraflops> oh yes it enables the socket unless
it's an update an if both was mistakenly enabled it disables
the socket
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2955[20:25:08] <sawgood> nice ... and I'm rebooting the box
now to see if we are booting into runlevel 3
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2958[20:25:33] <greycat> systemd doesn't use the word
"run level", but the "targets" that it has do
serve the same purpose
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2959[20:25:54] <greycat> "graphical.target" corresponds
to the old Red Hat run level 5, and "multi-user.target" is
RH run level 3
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2960[20:26:05] <greycat> Debian 7 and earlier never had that
distinction out of the box.
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2961[20:26:06] <sawgood> right on: and as you know that worked
... we are booting the CLI now (so appreicated)
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2962[20:26:14] <jhutchins_wk> ... which were never really
implemented in Debian.
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2967[20:27:55] <jhutchins_wk> sawgood: So you chose to install
the desktop environment even though you're running headless?
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2968[20:27:58] <sawgood> nice ...corresponds to the old Red Hat
run level 5, and "multi-user.target" is RH run level 3
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2970[20:28:19] <sawgood> jhutchins_wk: yes, I did put that on
(even) though I could have uncheckmarked it
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2972[20:28:35] <sawgood> I will in the days ahead (no more)
Debian Desktop .... and that should put us at the CLI each time?
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2973[20:28:54] <sawgood> I did it this time because we are going
to put a web based app on the box soon (GUI) ...
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2975[20:29:04] <jhutchins_wk> sawgood: Yes, you set the default.
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2976[20:29:24] <sawgood> yep: with one other addtition: SSH
server was added ...
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2977[20:29:34] <greycat> there's also "systemctl
get-default" to see the current target
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2978[20:29:58] <teraflops> imho stretch is not that bad at
desktop machine
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2979[20:30:04] <jhutchins_wk> sawgood: You wouldn't need a
GUI for a web based app.
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2980[20:30:14] <sawgood> I think I also put on "web
server" since (by the way) using net-install was so EASY and
clean (I knew) I could rebuild it more "naked" later on
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2981[20:30:25] <jhutchins_wk> It's no big deal, we just had
a third party build a bunch of servers with Gnome when they're
all headless VMs.
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2982[20:30:43] <sawgood> I'm just so glad the net-install
.ISO for 8.8.0 was clean, fast, simple, and worked well (2 different
boxes)
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2983[20:30:43] <jhutchins_wk> I suspect they're windows guys
who can't admin without a GUI.
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2987[20:31:18] <knstn> Debian 9 is still on system V?
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2988[20:31:28] <greycat> Debian 8 and 9 use systemd by default.
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2989[20:31:35] <jhutchins_wk> knstn: Not by default.
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2992[20:32:23] <knstn> that's bad, i read about systemd and
find it unnecessary complex
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2993[20:32:45] <greycat> You can switch to sysvinit if you prefer
that.
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2994[20:33:16] <greycat> dpkg stretch sysvinit
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2995[20:33:16] <dpkg> To replace systemd with sysvinit in
stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and
reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install
runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init",
and reboot again.
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2998[20:34:04] <sawgood> one funy thing happened: during
net-install: which will grab an IP via DHCP (during the install) ...
but in this case: the box doing this (had) no access to a DHCP
server (the DHCP server is off) (but) yet the box still got an IP
(and) completed the install (so my guess was) that the DHCP server
had IPv4 OFF but maybe IPv6 for DHCP was still on
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3000[20:34:25] <tw> Are the package maintainers supporting both
sysvinit and systemd, or do a lot of packages drop sysvinit?
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3003[20:35:04] <jhutchins_wk> tw: So far there seem to be more
packages that only support SysV.
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3006[20:35:35] <greycat> I don't know how the situation
plays out for *every* package, but the common ones will have both
systemd unit files and init.d boot scripts.
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3008[20:35:48] <greycat> E.g. openssh-server has /etc/init.d/ssh
and /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service
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3009[20:35:57] <jhutchins_wk> tw: Upstream is likely to remain at
least compatible, because there are distributions that do not use
systemd.
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3011[20:36:14] <teraflops> really? I see an apache systemd unit
on stretch, there wasnt any on jessie
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3013[20:36:30] <greycat> Yes, apache2 on jessie wasn't
systemd ready yet.
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3016[20:37:16] <tw> Huh, I should set up a VM with sysvinit.
Systemd has worked fine so far though. It took me a while to fix my
log parsers but not that long.
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3017[20:37:21] <jhutchins_wk> Isn't there some mechanism
whereby systemd can create a unit file from the LSB info in an init
file?
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3018[20:37:31] <teraflops> I definitely give a try to runit on a
stretch machine
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3019[20:37:31] <greycat> ereplaced-url
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3020[20:37:41] <greycat> I would not use an init.d file as the
basis for ANYTHING
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3022[20:38:27] <ForceRecon> well I tried the iso with firmware
and non free.. jessie.. wireless works but still sees monitor as a
laptop screen for some reason and I can't do anything about
it.. hmmmph
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3023[20:38:37] <ForceRecon> gonna have to really dig on this one
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3027[20:38:54] <ForceRecon> next week.. new drive.. dual boot try
to get it working
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3028[20:39:11] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: In what way does it
"see it as a laptop screen"?
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3030[20:40:12] <ForceRecon> when you go into display it actually
says LAPTOP and the resolution is only 1024x768
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3032[20:40:42] <hid3> Hello everyone. My Debian box is connected
to a smart switch. The problem is that upon system bootup, it takes
quite a long before the switch port and my NIC initialises the link
and DHCP gives IP... However, as systemd starts all the services at
once, lots of services fail because "cannot bind to specified
address", as the IP address is not yet ready. Is there any way
to workaround it?
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3033[20:40:50] <ForceRecon> its a Nvidia GeForce GTX 980
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3034[20:41:00] <ForceRecon> three 24" monitors on it..
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3035[20:41:05] <hid3> I mean, I need somehow to insert a 15-20
seconds pause after networking start before proceeding to start
other services...
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3036[20:41:24] <frostie_> i have just created a new partition and
i want to merge it with the / partition to make it bigger, how do i
do that?
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3037[20:41:36] <jhutchins_wk> hid3: Which release?
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3038[20:41:41] <towo`> ForceRecon, you need the recent nvidia
binary driver
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3039[20:41:46] <greycat> hid3: first thing, if you use
/etc/network/interfaces and not N-M, make sure the line says
"auto eth0" and not "allow-hotplug eth0"
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3040[20:41:46] <teraflops> tw: hmm journalctl have nice features,
apart from being binary crap (paraphrasing linus the finnish the
volcano)
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3041[20:42:01] <jhutchins_wk> frostie_: Do you have data that you
need to keep on /?
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3042[20:42:03] <jelly> hid3: sounds like a bug or two, but still,
what kinds of services do you run on a system that has a dynamic ip
address from dhcp?
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3043[20:42:04] <hid3> jh001: 9.0
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3044[20:42:09] <frostie_> no
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3045[20:42:23] <frostie_> i have that on another partition
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3048[20:42:36] <jhutchins_wk> frostie_: Is it LVM?
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3049[20:42:37] <hellyeah> anyone here use youtube-dl?
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3050[20:42:41] <teraflops> many
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3051[20:42:41] <frostie_> no
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3052[20:42:43] <jelly> !anyone
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3053[20:42:43] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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3054[20:43:02] <jelly> !ask
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3055[20:43:02] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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3056[20:43:39] <hellyeah> do you know how to download a playlist
from youtube with youtube-dl? i tried that command but doesnt work
" youtube-dl -cit -t --extract-audio --audio-format mp3".
Any suggestion?
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3057[20:43:40] <hid3> jelly: it's not dynamic, but assigned
by provider via DHCP (no, I can't configure it statically
because they somehow monitor network ports and make them go down if
no dhcp requests are made). The services which don't start are
smbd, openvpn and nginx
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3059[20:44:41] <greycat> hid3: auto vs. allow-hotplug is
extremely important, as many of the scripts that try to detect
whether the network is up or not only process interfaces that are
listed with "auto"
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3061[20:44:46] <hid3> greycat: yes, this system uses
/etc/network/interfaces. All the interfaces are described as
'auto' and not allow-hotplug
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3062[20:44:50] <tw> teraflops: I like per service following,
that's come in handy more than once.
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3063[20:44:57] <frostie_> i didnt find any option in gparted to
merge partitions, only create new ones format them or resize/move
them and so on
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3064[20:45:08] <MickyW> !popcon
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3065[20:45:09] <dpkg> somebody said popcon was the Debian
Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first
few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package
to participate. See the results at
replaced-url
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3066[20:45:29] <greycat> hid3: OK, then the next thing is top add
local systemd drop-in config snippets that say "this service
has to wait for network-online.target"
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3067[20:45:33] <hid3> technically upopn system boot the interface
might be up, but the IP from DHCP is not ready yet, that's why
some services fail to start, which bind to that IP....
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3069[20:46:03] <ForceRecon> jhutchins_wk: config =
replaced-url
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3070[20:46:11] <jelly> hid3: that's a weird definition of
interface being up
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3073[20:46:15] <hid3> hm... yeah, that's what I'm
thinking should be done, unfortunately not sure how to do that. I
was familias with init system but not systemd
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3074[20:46:16] <jhutchins_wk> frostie_: You can only expand a
partition if the new space is adjacent to the old.
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3075[20:46:19] <greycat> hid3: e.g. for me, the culprit was
nfs-server, and I created
/etc/systemd/system/nfs-server.service.d/waitlonger.conf with 3
lines
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3077[20:46:33] <hid3> what those 3 lines were?
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3081[20:46:57] <greycat>
replaced-url
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3083[20:47:21] <greycat> that's on a stretch box, not sure
if jessie is exactly the same
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3087[20:47:31] <hid3> strech here too. 9.0
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3088[20:47:38] <hid3> *stretch
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3091[20:47:57] <hid3> and the "network-online" is
something what is in base system?
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3092[20:48:05] <tw> Can you mark a unit as non-critical for boot,
and keep delaying even after a login prompt is shown?
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3093[20:48:09] <greycat> hid3: yes
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3095[20:48:34] <tw> hid3: network-online.target is documented
here
replaced-url
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3103[20:50:53] <teraflops> hellyeah: ido which youtube version
you have there, but e.g: youtube-dl -f bestaudio -x --audio-format
mp3 --audio-quality 3 --output "%(title)s.%(ext)s" -i
"replaced-url
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3104[20:50:58] <teraflops> idk^
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3105[20:51:20] <frostie_> can i take space from the new created
partiton and add it to / to expand it?
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3106[20:51:27] <hellyeah> let me take a look
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3110[20:53:28] <hellyeah> teraflops: thanks for that
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3111[20:53:31] <hellyeah> worked
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3112[20:53:33] <teraflops> np
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3113[20:53:37] <hid3> greycat, I'll probably need some
assistance. So let's assume I have a stock service
'openvpn'. It's configuration is here:
replaced-url
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3116[20:54:30] <mtn> frostie_: yes, use gparted from a live disk
to do it
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3118[20:54:42] <jhutchins_wk> frostie_: There are two ways to do
this: if the space is adjacent, you can grow the partition into it.
If it isn't, you have to use LVM and create a volume group with
both partitions in it.
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3119[20:55:07] <jhutchins_wk> frostie_: There is a third way:
Backup, repartition, restore.
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3120[20:55:31] <jhutchins_wk> frostie_: If you're messing
with the partition table, you need to have a full device backup.
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3137[21:01:21] <sawgood> greycat: thanks again that was what we
needed ...
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3140[21:01:36] <hid3> also, in case the ISP never offers a valid
IP (e.g. no connection or whatever reason), will my system still
boot? Is there any timeout for waitinf network-online.target or sth
similar to that?
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3142[21:02:12] <ForceRecon> I may have asked this before but I do
not remember what was said. - Is this accurate? -
replaced-url
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3150[21:06:14] <jhutchins_wk> dpkg: jessie->stretch
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3151[21:06:14] <dpkg> Remember that Debian 9 "Stretch"
is still pre-release and that security support will not always be
timely. Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <stretch
release notes>
replaced-url
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3152[21:06:56] <mutante> hid3: yea, it should still boot. there
is a timeout for trying DHCP
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3154[21:07:09] <mutante> hid3: also, in most cases you get the IP
from your router at home.
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3163[21:11:13] <hid3> mutante: this is a setup with direct
connection to a "very smart" switch which autosenses the
link for about 1 minute or so
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3164[21:11:18] <hid3> there's no home router
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3165[21:11:35] <hid3> this box acts as a server
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3169[21:12:34] <mutante> hid3: ok, it should be
/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and the "timeout" value in there.
60 sec
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3174[21:14:08] <hid3> yep, it's there but commented out. Can
I assume this is the default value and I don't need to
uncomment it?
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3177[21:15:59] <greycat> as far as I know, yes... I've never
put that to the test
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3178[21:16:48] <hid3> alright.. I've dont that for openvpn,
smbd and nginx. Finger crossed...
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3179[21:16:52] <tremolo> Seems like it's generally a safe
assumption.
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3180[21:17:04] <tremolo> Well, as assumptions go.
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3184[21:17:37] <hid3> I've added an additional HDD to the
system (HP Microserver Gen8). The dummy raid lost boot device and
all the configuration. It turned my blood cold because I had NO
backups of this quite hge/complex system...
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3187[21:17:46] <hid3> so had a bit of stress
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3188[21:18:02] <greycat> If the machine is physically safe, there
is also an emergency console you can activate in systemd. It gives
you an active root shell on Ctrl-Alt-F9 very early in the boot
process, which you can use if tty1 is not activated yet.
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3189[21:18:02] <tremolo> But you have backups now, right? :D
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3190[21:18:03] <hid3> but luckily managed to find what was wrong,
booted and then bah, some services don't start
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3195[21:18:54] <hid3> tremolo: no, it's just half an hour
passed since boot. Tomorrow I'll be establishing the remove
backuping system using ssh and rsync. Currently the blocker is disk
space on remote end
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3196[21:19:05] <greycat> Ah, here it is: debug-shell.service
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3198[21:19:25] <hid3> so ctrl-alt-f9 works at every boot stage?
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3200[21:19:38] <greycat> Only if you enable that service.
It's disabled by default.
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3230[21:37:18] <grandfso> hi, got a question
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3232[21:37:32] <grandfso> when i do df -h
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3236[21:37:54] <inthl> how does one disallow ordinary users to
write to syslog, using the logger command?
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3238[21:38:00] <grandfso> it says
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3239[21:38:00] <grandfso> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted
on
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3240[21:38:00] <grandfso> /dev/simfs 20G 13G 7.9G 61% /
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3242[21:38:33] <grandfso> after apt-get upgrade it warns me:
After this operation, 16.7 GB disk space will be freed.
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3243[21:38:47] <grandfso> wtf?
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3244[21:38:56] <hid3> greycat: Thanks a lot for your support.
You've helped me several times. I really value your
contribution.
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3246[21:39:17] <greycat> grandfso: got more than one file system?
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3247[21:39:21] <grandfso> nope
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3248[21:39:27] <grandfso> it's a small vps
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3253[21:40:08] <grandfso> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted
on
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3254[21:40:11] <grandfso> /dev/simfs 20G 13G 7.9G 61% /
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3255[21:40:12] <grandfso> none 512M 4.0K 512M 1% /dev
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3256[21:40:15] <grandfso> none 103M 192K 103M 1% /run
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3257[21:40:16] <grandfso> none 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
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3259[21:40:35] <tremolo> oops
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3260[21:40:41] <Bliepo> I am running dnsmasq with
localise-queries. A device connected to one of the interfaces needs
to be blocked from the internet, so I want all dns queries on that
interface to return an invalid IP. Can this be done? As far as I
know, /etc/hosts doesn't have wildcards so it cannot be done.
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3262[21:40:49] <grandfso> got kicked
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3263[21:40:52] <greycat> grandfso: "no" was enough
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3264[21:40:53] <grandfso> sorry for that
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3265[21:41:22] <greycat> grandfso: anyway, whatever it wants to
do, I'd say "no" to it.
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3266[21:41:32] <greycat> sounds like it wants to remove your
entire system, which is usually bad
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3267[21:41:40] <grandfso> i figure
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3268[21:41:51] <grandfso> i installed irc client just for this
cause
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3269[21:42:05] * Bliepo wonders about the situations where removing the
entire system might be good
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3271[21:42:17] <greycat> When it's Windows.
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3272[21:42:22] <Bliepo> :P
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3273[21:42:23] <tremolo> Does it also say how it's going to
free that disk space? (which packages will be installed, upgraded,
removed)
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3278[21:43:34] <grandfso> yes
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3280[21:43:42] <grandfso> is it ok to post url to screenshot ?
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3282[21:43:52] <grandfso> i hope so
replaced-url
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3288[21:47:00] <Bliepo> On an unrelated note, I just noticed some
fairly large inaccuracies on the Debian wiki about OpenVPN,
specifically:
replaced-url
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3305[21:53:56] <huj> hey guys
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3306[21:54:22] <huj> i am trying to run a graphical program
inside gdb over ssh
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3307[21:54:46] <huj> so the graphical program has no X display to
forward to
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3309[21:54:50] <greycat> ssh -X
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3312[21:55:08] <huj> how can i use screen to enable me to connect
to the screen session after launching the program?
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3313[21:55:15] <huj> greycat: im using putty
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3315[21:55:34] <greycat> I do not know how to help you with your
Microsoft Windows system.
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3316[21:55:41] <huj> greycat: im thinking "exec screen gdb
-args APP_NAME"
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3319[21:56:38] <huj> greycat: but i get the error from screen
"must be connected to a terminal"
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3322[21:57:15] <huj> greycat: i am already running XVFB because i
dont care about the output of the graphical app
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3324[21:57:37] <huj> greycat: i think it might be an issue with
the command that i am not getting correct
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3326[21:58:11] <huj> any ideas?
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3331[21:59:08] <greycat> !any ideas
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3332[21:59:08] <dpkg> Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a
bag full of condoms, a little cod liver oil, and 5 or 6 three-legged
bunnies. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few hours!
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3333[21:59:16] <greycat> Here's another one: use Debian
instead of Microsoft Windows!
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3334[21:59:58] <huj> greycat: even with debian ill have the same
issue because i cannot have X over this netwok connection
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3335[22:00:08] <greycat> ssh -X
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3337[22:00:25] <huj> and ill still need to be able to connect to
the debugger later if i disconnect
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3340[22:00:49] <Sl33pl3ss> ls -lah
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3344[22:02:11] <huj> greycat: ssh -X allows X forwarding. what im
saying is i cannot have X on the local machine
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3353[22:05:07] <huj> greycat: so that problem would not be solved
by installing Linux. ill still need to use screen...somehow...
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3355[22:05:41] <greycat> ssh in. run screen. run whatever magical
xvfb thing. run gdb.
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3356[22:05:50] <greycat> I don't know what the issue is.
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3378[22:17:14] <jhutchins_wk> huj: Your windows system does not
have an Xwindos display available.
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3379[22:17:26] <huj> jhutchins_wk: correct
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3380[22:17:41] <huj> jhutchins_wk: thats why im trynna use Xvfb
and run gdb in a screen session
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3383[22:18:08] <jhutchins_wk> huj: You could use xming or cygwin.
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3384[22:18:30] <jhutchins_wk> huj: Forwarding an entire desktop
is going to take more resources.
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3387[22:18:42] <huj> right. i dont wanna forward anything
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3389[22:19:11] <greycat> ssh in. run screen. run whatever magical
xvfb thing. run gdb. I don't know what the issue is.
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3390[22:19:36] <huj> when i run "exec screen gdb -args
APP_NAME", screen says "must be connected to a
terminal"
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3391[22:19:48] <greycat> STOP trying to do it all in one fucking
gigantic megacommand
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