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46 [00:50:37] <sponix> anything significant change for 5.9 ? I
did my 1st 5.9 kernel and it failed to build anything dkms
47 [00:52:44] <AimHere> There's a bug in the Nvidia kernel
that breaks CUDA, so if you're using that, you need to upgrade
to the latest Nvidia drivers
48 [00:52:56] <AimHere> *nvidia driver
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50 [00:56:15] <AimHere> @sponix
51 [00:56:26] <Brigo> or download to 5.8
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53 [01:01:26] <sponix> decent recommendation. and I have a 5.8
kernel to fall back on
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58 [01:05:50] <sponix> yeah, seems I need to have fresh Nvidia,
and ZFS to keep up with 5.9 - Fun
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66 [01:09:09] <ravanan> New Debian user here. Haven't
installed firmware-iwlwifi that's been suggested online since I
was curious about something in my lspci output.
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68 [01:09:32] <ravanan> Output in #flood
69 [01:10:50] <ravanan> Specifically, there's a line that
says "Kernel Modules: iwlwifi" and the man page for lspci
says it's basically a kernel module that's capable of
handling my wifi adapter
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71 [01:11:22] <ravanan> I searched through
/usr/lib/modules/kernel/../drivers/net/wireless/intel
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74 [01:11:34] <ravanan> And I found an iwlwifi.ko module there
75 [01:11:45] <ravanan> Is it sufficient if I load this to use
my wifi adapter?
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82 [01:14:57] <packetS_> :-D
83 [01:15:27] <ravanan> Running lsmod reveals that iwlwifi has
already been loaded
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96 [01:26:30] <alex11> lol there's a nano-tiny
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98 [01:26:39] <alex11> how much disk space do you *really* need
to save...
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122 [01:49:03] <H-var> guys what do I type into sources.list to
update to the testing channel of bullseye from buster?
123 [01:51:42] <themill> dpkg, buster->bullseye
124 [01:51:42] <dpkg> In /etc/apt/sources.list, change
"buster" to "bullseye", remove lines like
buster-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party
repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update
&& apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. Note that
testing is a <moving target> and may be buggy, and read the
sid FAQ:
replaced-url
125 [01:52:22] <H-var>
replaced-url
126 [01:52:29] <H-var> I did like this?
127 [01:52:57] <sney> wow, that's exactly wrong.
128 [01:52:59] <roycroft> and don't forget the part about
backing up the machine before you perform the upgrade
129 [01:53:07] <H-var> lol
130 [01:53:28] <H-var> can someone edit it and post the correct
one on paste.debian.org please?
131 [01:53:29] <themill> H-var: yeah, that scores 0/10.
132 [01:53:36] <H-var> lol
133 [01:53:52] <themill> Sorry, people need to get at least 8/10
on that test to be allowed to run testing/
134 [01:53:59] <roycroft> you were already given explicit
instructions on what to do
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136 [01:54:20] <H-var> * themill eats the key
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143 [01:56:17] <H-var> dpkg like this?
replaced-url
144 [01:56:17] * dpkg smooches this?
replaced-url
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147 [01:57:03] <sney> H-var: almost, see the part about disabling
backports
148 [01:57:16] <H-var> yes, I'll remove that one too
149 [01:57:50] <n4dir> H-var: doesn't matter much, but i
heard it a few times the last days: it unusual to say "testing
*channel*". Most just say "testing".
150 [01:58:12] <H-var> thanks! It's time to do something
stupid and format my disk once again lol
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156 [02:01:04] <H-var> thanks themill sney, n4dir and roycroft! I
smooch you on the neck
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196 [02:20:44] <H-var> I did just that, but now I get errors
about the security channel
197 [02:20:48] <H-var>
replaced-url
198 [02:21:35] <H-var> should I disable it? Is it safe to upgrade
without it working?
199 [02:23:17] <sponix> H-var: you most likely want irc.oftc.net
#debian-next
200 [02:24:36] <H-var> I don't like where this is going lol.
I'll rather stay with the stable release
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206 [02:29:42] <rjg61> hello, attempting to install buster with
btrfs subvolvumes. i'm interupting the installation after disk
partitioning, creating subvolvumes inside /target and manually
mounting subvolumes before contining install. my understanding is
while not offically supported this *should* work. Installaiton
completes, but failing to get out of ramdisk unable to
207 [02:29:43] <rjg61> find init. So I'm probably screwing
up the mounting the subvolvumes inside /target.
208 [02:29:51] <rjg61> Any suggestions or guides very much
appreicated. fstab for reference:
replaced-url
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234 [03:03:11] <darsie> My xfce(?) no longer automounts my usb
card reader and imports photos. It's still configured in
settings/removable drives and media.
235 [03:03:36] <darsie> Card shows up in /var/log/messages
236 [03:03:41] <beelzebuzz> darsie: update kernel and not reboot
yet?
237 [03:03:44] <darsie> I can fsck it.
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240 [03:04:01] <darsie> I rebooted without kernel update.
241 [03:04:09] <spacedust> nice
242 [03:04:12] <darsie> :)
243 [03:04:36] <beelzebuzz> only time i get usb automount
problems is forgetting to reboot after update so not sure
244 [03:04:51] <darsie> no kernel upgrades pending.
245 [03:05:05] <n4dir> but you can mount it "manually"
?
246 [03:05:38] <n4dir> i'd probaly also create a new -test-
user and see if he has the same problems.
247 [03:06:06] <n4dir> before finding someone who has a clue how
xfce4 automount works.
248 [03:06:48] <darsie> n4dir: I can. pics are there.
249 [03:07:00] <spacedust> uses mana, magic, maybe you out of
mana
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251 [03:07:04] <n4dir> yeah, sorry, i would not know more. good
luck
252 [03:07:35] <darsie> Maybe reformatting the card reinstalls
the magic.
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254 [03:07:47] <darsie> Hmm, still would have to get mounted
first.
255 [03:08:00] <n4dir> asking an xfce user in another channel,
don't hold your breath, perhaps he is afk
256 [03:08:16] <beelzebuzz> we have #xfce on freenode btw
257 [03:08:35] <darsie> I wasn't sure if #xfce or #debian is
more on topic.
258 [03:08:53] <beelzebuzz> either one. just most are idle as
usual
259 [03:09:07] <spacedust> thunar-volman automount
260 [03:09:24] <spacedust>
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261 [03:10:17] <scrul00se> I have one (1) clue how xfce4
automounting works: I'm pretty sure gvfs is involved. As for
how gvfs works... that I don't know.
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263 [03:11:24] <spacedust> scrul00se: yeah i bet thunar uses
gvfs, same i have not much clue how gvfs works and i dont reall care
neither :)
264 [03:12:28] <darsie> thunar-volman: Must specify the sysfs
path of new devices with --device-added.
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277 [03:26:24] <epsilonKNOT> o/
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286 [03:33:39] <epsilonKNOT> what are the chances that if I
submit a RFP someone might actually package it :(
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290 [03:40:53] <themill> It's pretty rare but occasionally
someone sees things in WNPP and thinks "yes, that's an
itch I'd like to scratch"
291 [03:43:14] <n4dir> epsilonKNOT: i lost contact, but
stevepusser as a long time forums.debian member and part of the MX
distribution is often willing to help with packaging. If you really
only want the package as a deb, not necessarily it being part of the
official debian repos.
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294 [03:43:43] <n4dir> of course with the according warning what
it means adding anything but official repo apps to the system. That
is your choice
295 [03:44:09] <n4dir> they also had and perhaps still have the
community repos, where you sometimes find stuff
296 [03:44:43] <n4dir> which package we speak of might be of help
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299 [03:48:05] <epsilonKNOT> makes sense
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308 [04:00:15] <rjg61> hello, attempting to install buster with
btrfs subvolvumes. i'm interupting the installation after disk
partitioning, creating subvolvumes inside /target and manually
mounting subvolumes before contining install. my understanding is
while not officially supported this *should* work. Installaiton
completes, but failing to get out of ramdisk unable
309 [04:00:15] <rjg61> to find init. So I'm probably
screwing up the mounting the subvolumes inside /target.
310 [04:00:24] <rjg61> Any suggestions or guides very much
appreicated. fstab for reference:
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340 [04:40:34] <allan_wind> How do I set a kernel boot parameter?
I don't think you monkey with grub.cfg directly, right?
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342 [04:41:40] <n4dir> - /etc/default/grub ; i'd guess
343 [04:42:08] <allan_wind> ah... yeah :-)
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525 [09:53:07] <jpcooper> Hello. I've installed
libboost-1.71-all, and the future class doesn't seem to be
available. Is it available in another package that I can install?
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527 [09:53:30] <jpcooper> I am looking for the future class as
mentioned here:
replaced-url
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582 [10:45:00] <queip> how to list which UIDs run any processes?
583 [10:45:04] <queip> other than sort on ps aux
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585 [10:45:58] <queip> ok actually, how to enter the mode where
only root account works and almost all daemons, and all users, are
logged out/stopped, like for backup or disk repair
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590 [10:48:34] <queip> telinit 1 ?
591 [10:48:56] <ksk> Eh, you are looking for runlevels, I am not
quite sure about the systemd implications thugh
592 [10:49:10] <ksk> Like there is a reduced number of levels now
I think
593 [10:49:14] <queip> thanks systemd for making everything
harder
594 [10:49:23] <ksk> systemd calls them targets.
595 [10:49:56] <ksk>
replaced-url
596 [10:49:59] <queip> telinit 1 seems to worked
597 [10:50:24] <ksk> "Run level 1 is matched by
rescue.target (and runlevel1.target is a symbolic link to
rescue.target)."
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800 [13:17:38] <NetTerminalGene> guys, how can i apply this
command? copy and paste doesn't work.
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807 [13:22:40] <kristijonas> Hi! Does anybody know what is the
best way to enable DNS-over-TLS in the current stable?
808 [13:22:52] <abrotman> NetTerminalGene: you can remove all the
linebreaks and \ to make it a single line
809 [13:22:58] <abrotman> copy/paste should work though
810 [13:23:18] <NetTerminalGene> abrotman: thanks
811 [13:26:12] <abrotman> kristijonas: are you trying to do this
natively, or just any way possible?
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813 [13:27:45] <kristijonas> abrotman, well, natively. As I
understand, current stable doesn't use systemd-resolved, in
which I'd know how to enable it
814 [13:28:25] <abrotman> Right .. so you'd have to setup
your own resolver locally, and then use that to pass things via DoT
815 [13:28:42] <abrotman> you could try something like stubby
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817 [13:29:12] <abrotman> There are a bunch of docs about how to
make this work on older systems
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819 [13:29:16] <abrotman> but tehy're all a bit hacky
820 [13:29:42] <taman> kristijonas, I do that with unbound. Can
paste conf if you're otherwise stuck.
821 [13:30:46] <abrotman> Right, unbound is another method. but
either stubby or unbound, lots of docs out there
822 [13:31:02] <kristijonas> found this
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823 [13:31:16] <doubleqp> Interesting one.. when I'm trying
to run a speedtest while I've wireguard enabled I get sometimes
"[error] Cannot read: Resource temporarily unavailable".
Looks to me I'm running in some kind of limits. With wireguard
disabled I don't get this error. I checked my ulimits already
(open files / processes) and adjusted them for the entire OS.
However, since wireguard is embedded in the kernel these days and
making use of kworker it doesn't adhere
824 [13:31:16] <doubleqp> the ulimits configured on both the
system and user config.
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828 [13:31:36] <doubleqp> already tried running strace as well
but it doesn't give me much info once the error occurs.
829 [13:31:59] <doubleqp> The main issue is that it doesn't
only happen with a speedtest, also when I download a large file for
example
830 [13:32:18] <doubleqp> question is whether it is actually a
ulimit limitation I'm running into or something else is going
on. Nothing in syslog or kern.log..
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845 [13:39:36] <Deyaa> Hello
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847 [13:41:06] <Deyaa> My /home/user/.local/bin python scripts
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851 [13:44:16] <abrotman> What does it do?
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867 [13:58:32] <wyoung> Hi
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885 [14:10:53] <Rodon> if anyone installed libxft-bgra package in
buster for colored emojis support in dwm .. please give the link.
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894 [14:20:26] <goring>
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897 [14:22:57] <no112_> What the hell?
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901 [14:25:47] <abrotman> goring: Wrong channel?
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970 [15:32:04] <graingert> goring: that's not ubuntu and
this isn't #ubuntu ;D
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1087 [16:57:47] <aphorise> My service is logging to
/var/log/messages - how do I set it up so that it logs to its own
file? - I have jounalctl & systemd setup but just forgot what
else I'm missing here.
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1091 [17:03:21] <overlisted> your own systemd message?
1092 [17:03:26] <overlisted> service*
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1107 [17:12:28] <petn-randall> aphorise: If you service is logging
to syslog, it's your rsyslog config that decides what goes
where.
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1110 [17:14:18] <petn-randall> aphorise: You'll either have
to change your service to log to file, or change your service to
syslog to its own "facility" (a syslog term) and then
configure rsyslog to write those logs to a separate file.
1111 [17:14:30] <aphorise> petn-randall sure - I just dont know
how get this service to output to its onw.
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1113 [17:14:35] <petn-randall> Feel free to ask for details, this
is really shortened down.
1114 [17:14:52] <petn-randall> aphorise: What service is it, and
what is it written in?
1115 [17:15:01] <aphorise> So I see some definitions already in
/etc/rsyslog.conf - but hwo I do I set this up #?
1116 [17:15:26] <Haohmaru> ,v elmerfem-csc
1117 [17:15:27] <judd> No package named 'elmerfem-csc'
was found in amd64.
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1119 [17:16:12] <aphorise> petn-randall its a web-service .deb
file I've downloaded and setup accordingly to a guide.
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1122 [17:17:08] <aphorise> I've set it up to run as its own
user 'webs1'
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1129 [17:23:13] <rootkea> Hello! I installed Debian 10.6.1 Buster
on Acer Switch 10 (Bay Trail processor with Intel HD graphics) a
week back and have been fixing various issues since then. :)
Anyways, so I see "i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* Failed to
get the SoC PWM chip" and changing backlight via
xfce4-power-manager or `echo $n >
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness` doesn't change
screen brightness.
1130 [17:23:35] <rootkea> I'm on 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 kernel
1131 [17:24:15] <rootkea> * I see that i915 ERROR message during
boot
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1134 [17:24:58] <Lachezar> Hey all. Page
replaced-url
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1136 [17:25:28] <Lachezar> But maybe only in Bulgarian language...
1137 [17:26:55] <jelly> Lachezar: thanks, I'll relay that to
#debian-replaced-url
1138 [17:27:07] <Celmor[m]> I'm wondering why apt is trying
to connect via ipv6 instead of ipv4 and therefore timing out
1139 [17:27:16] <jelly> Lachezar: is the link on the main page top
right correct?
1140 [17:27:39] <Lachezar> jelly: No, it's in the list of
releases.
1141 [17:28:05] <diogenes_> rootkea, most likely you have to play
around acpi_backlight kernel parameters.
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1144 [17:30:12] <rootkea> Lachezar, s/stretch/buster and send MR
replaced-url
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1146 [17:30:57] <rootkea> diogenes_, I tried all four params
mentioned at
replaced-url
1147 [17:31:19] <rootkea> acpi_backlight=video, vendor, native and
none
1148 [17:31:56] <diogenes_> rootkea, there's more, let me
see.
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1150 [17:33:47] <jelly> rootkea, Lachezar: submitted already.
replaced-url
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1152 [17:34:42] <rootkea> jelly, +1
1153 [17:35:24] <diogenes_> rootkea, pastebin: sudo strings
/sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
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1156 [17:36:08] * jelly forgot he had some rights in that project
1157 [17:36:51] <petn-randall> aphorise: Then I'd check the
documentation of this web service how to configure logging.
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1160 [17:39:10] <rootkea> diogenes_,
replaced-url
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1163 [17:40:32] <diogenes_> rootkea, you can try this one:
acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" (or acpi_osi=!
acpi_osi=\"Windows 2012\")
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1173 [17:51:42] <rootkea> diogenes_, I tried both 1. acpi_osi=!
acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" and 2. acpi_osi=!
acpi_osi=\"Windows 2012\" but same symptoms. Brightness
doesn't change when 1. use xfce4-power-manager or 2.
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness file. And same i915
ERROR message during boot.
1174 [17:52:19] <rootkea> I suspect I'm experiencing
replaced-url
1175 [17:52:20] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1180 [17:53:48] <diogenes_> rootkea, but do you use intel or
modesetting?
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1187 [17:54:53] <jelly> rootkea: do you in fact have a bay trail
chipset netbook or media box or something?
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1190 [17:57:40] <rootkea> diogenes_,
replaced-url
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1192 [17:58:29] <rootkea> jelly, it's Intel Atom Z3735F
processor which comes under Bay Trail family iirc
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1194 [17:58:59] <rootkea> Acer Switch 10 laptop
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1200 [18:01:14] <diogenes_> rootkea, i know but there are 2
drivers, modesetting and intel, try to force the intel one to load
via /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf (first install
xserver-xorg-video-intel).
1201 [18:02:52] <rootkea> diogenes_, package is installed already
and I tried /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf from arch wiki
earlier in the day but sadly issue persisted.
1202 [18:03:06] <rootkea>
replaced-url
1203 [18:03:44] <diogenes_> i see
1204 [18:04:56] <rootkea>
replaced-url
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1206 [18:05:33] <rootkea> I would like to stick to kernel from
repos
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1208 [18:06:08] <jelly> rootkea: yeah, I guess that would count as
a netbook. Maybe ask #intel-gfx people if they know of any (other)
workarounds
1209 [18:06:42] <jelly> ,kernels
1210 [18:06:43] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 5.10.0-rc4-686-pae (5.10~rc4-1~exp1); sid:
5.9.0-3-686-pae (5.9.9-1); bullseye: 5.9.0-3-686-pae (5.9.9-1);
buster-backports: 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.8.10-1~bpo10+1); buster:
4.19.0-12-686-pae (4.19.152-1); stretch-backports:
4.19.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.19.0-0.bpo.12-686 (4.19.152-1~deb9u1); jessie-backports:
1211 [18:06:44] <judd> 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae
(4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.12-686
(4.9.210-1+deb9u1~deb8u1)
1212 [18:07:02] <jelly> 5.9 not backported yet
1213 [18:07:44] <rootkea> jelly, sure, Thanks! Can I install
kernel (and other firmware packages) from experimental on stable?
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1215 [18:08:26] <jelly> rootkea: that may or may not be doable,
but it does not hurt to try
1216 [18:09:04] <rootkea> Okay, will do! :)
1217 [18:09:10] <jelly> in general one shouldn't mix
experimental with anything apart from sid (unstable), but the kernel
packaging is mostly self-contained
1218 [18:11:30] <rootkea> Meanwhile, I have another issue -
bluetooth. Which driver do I need? I don't see bluetooth
adapter neither in lspci nor lsusb
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1223 [18:14:48] <jhutchins> rootkea: Try rfkill
1224 [18:15:38] <jhutchins> rootkea: If you need a working
computer and are running anything beyond stable, be sure to make
backups before you run upgrades.
1225 [18:17:19] <rootkea> jhutchins, Wow! rfkill shows
"acer-bluetooth: Bluetooth"
1226 [18:17:38] <jelly> rootkea: bt ought to just work, but it
might need firmware. pastebin your complete dmesg?
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1228 [18:18:12] <jelly> and it might be connected over something
unusual on that chipset, like i2s
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1230 [18:20:19] <rootkea> When I try to run `blueman-manager`, a
pop-up appears saying "Connection to BlueZ failed. Bluez daemon
is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue. This probably means
that there were no Bluetooth adapters detected or Bluetooth daemon
was not started"
1231 [18:20:34] <rootkea> Guess I should look into bluez daemon?
1232 [18:21:07] <jelly> it's possible it autostarts when the
device appears
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1237 [18:22:52] <Globon> hello. i got problem on ssh when i use
together torsocks/torify. Using Debian buster. ERROR: ssh is setuid.
torsocks will not work on a setuid executable.
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1239 [18:23:47] <jelly> Globon: ls -ld /usr/bin/ssh
1240 [18:24:08] <rootkea> jelly, sudo dmesg:
replaced-url
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1242 [18:25:33] <rootkea> jelly, Please ignore that. That boot had
additional kernel boot param.
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1244 [18:25:51] <rootkea> I'm uploading one from fresh
vanilla boot
1245 [18:26:19] <jelly> Globon: show the output of that command,
please
1246 [18:27:00] <jelly> Globon: in other words, does your ssh
client really have a setuid on it? It shouldn't, and it does
not have the setuid bit set by default
1247 [18:27:25] <Globon>
replaced-url
1248 [18:27:44] <Globon> i did not change anything after setup
debian buster. just installed tor but it not works.
1249 [18:28:09] <Globon> i did fresh setup, i was using torsocks
on ssh 1 week ago at same distro
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1251 [18:28:33] <rootkea> jelly, $ sudo dmesg >
replaced-url
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1253 [18:29:01] <jelly> Globon: that's not ls -ld but okay. I
don't see a setuid on /usr/bin/ssh, and the setgid on ssh-agent
does not seem relevant
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1255 [18:29:15] <jelly> Globon: your tool is misdetecting
something
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1258 [18:31:36] <Globon> jelly, a part of /usr/bin/torsocks >
replaced-url
1259 [18:32:32] <Globon> i tried to uncomment if - fi part on
there. torsocks seems worked and connected server but actualy it
did'nt work. it leaks my ip
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1262 [18:35:58] <jelly> rootkea: looks like that rtl8723bs is a
combo wifi + bluetooth card
1263 [18:36:06] <jelly> [ 10.371589] RTL8723BS: rtl8723bs
v4.3.5.5_12290.20140916_BTCOEX20140507-4E40
1264 [18:36:06] <jelly> [ 10.371591] RTL8723BS: rtl8723bs BT-Coex
version = BTCOEX20140507-4E40
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1272 [18:38:24] <jelly> rootkea: install firmware-realtek from
backports, see if that helps. Typically when you use a newer kernel,
you also want matching firmware
1273 [18:39:10] <rootkea> jelly, firmwafre-realtek already from
bpo installed
1274 [18:39:21] <jelly> hmm, okay then
1275 [18:39:31] <jelly> judd: file rtl8723bs.*bin --release
buster-backports
1276 [18:39:32] <judd> No packages in buster-backports/amd64 were
found with that file.
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1278 [18:39:40] <jelly> judd: file rtl8723bs.*bin --release buster
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1280 [18:39:45] <judd> No packages in buster/amd64 were found with
that file.
1281 [18:39:49] <jelly> judd: file rtl8723bs*bin --release
buster-backports
1282 [18:39:50] <judd> Search for rtl8723bs*bin in
buster-backports/amd64: firmware-realtek:
lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_bt.bin,
lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_nic.bin,
lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_wowlan.bin
1283 [18:40:01] <jelly> rootkea: is
/lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8723bs_bt.bin in place?
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1286 [18:41:04] <rootkea> jelly, yes, it is there.
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1301 [18:49:24] <Globon> is making /usr/bin/ssh-agent chmod to
0755 and change user root:root safe?
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1315 [19:00:45] <shtrb> no
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1317 [19:01:47] <shtrb> Globon, it should be already preset
properly (and owned by ssh )
1318 [19:01:54] <Globon> i'm going to be mad. i really love
linux, passed my 5 years on main-os linux still i cant find a
solution. that problem is really weird.
1319 [19:02:19] <jhutchins> Have we tried manually starting the
bluez daemon?
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1321 [19:02:31] <shtrb> jhutchins, ?
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1328 [19:10:41] <jelly> Globon: again, ssh-agent has nothing to do
with it. But try it and see.
1329 [19:10:51] <jelly> you can put it back as it was later.
1330 [19:11:31] <jelly> rootkea: it's interesting that the
driver doesn't even try loading it
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1332 [19:12:06] <jelly> rootkea: perhaps you have to enable
something using rfkill or a Fn key combo first?
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1344 [19:19:29] <Globon> jelly, root:root resulted same. are there
any option to ungroup it? can we leave groups null?
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1346 [19:20:01] <rootkea> jelly, rfkill o/p says
"Soft-blocked: no\n Hard-blocked: no" flor
"acer-bluetooth: Bluetooth" entry. Also, I don't see
any hardware switch for bluetooth. There was one with radio icon for
wifi which I tried toggling. Made no difference for bt. Same error
by blueman-manager. "Connection to BlueZ failed"
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1348 [19:20:46] <rootkea> s/flor/for
1349 [19:21:27] <jelly> Globon: no, a file always has user and
group ownership on linux
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1351 [19:22:28] <jelly> Globon: again, the tool saying
there's a setuid on ssh is not working right. It has a bug.
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1354 [19:25:56] <Globon> jelly, what comes interesting for me i
will tell
1355 [19:27:17] <Globon> i have two debian buster. one of broken
but i can access console. this was working great with torsocks ssh.
i checked torsocks and it seems same version. i check ssh and
ssh-agend, same permissions
1356 [19:27:59] <Globon> broken one still works torsocks ssh, and
a new gave me error. and no source on web about this situation.
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1360 [19:32:47] <jelly> rootkea: is there anything bt related in
bios?
1361 [19:34:54] <rootkea> jelly, No, there is not. Btw, I just
reinstalled bluez from bpo but made no difference :/
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1369 [19:45:04] <jelly> it sounds more like a kernel or driver
issue than anything in userspace
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1375 [19:52:26] <jhutchins> rootkea: Have you tried _starting_
bluez? You can't connect to it if it's not started.
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1381 [19:57:04] <kevinnn> hi all, I know this question is pretty
unrelated but I have just installed a fresh copy of proxmox and for
some reason I cannot run the lxc command
1382 [19:57:21] <RhineDevil> what's the difference betweek
nullok and nullok_secure in pam.d? do they both allow null passwords
for an ssh user?
1383 [19:57:28] <kevinnn> There basically no results on google for
this...
1384 [19:57:30] <sney> kevinnn: ##proxmox
1385 [19:57:39] <kevinnn> sney: need an invite to ask there
1386 [19:57:55] <kevinnn> oh wow, I can access it now, weird
1387 [19:58:00] <sney> you probably just needed to be registered
1388 [19:58:11] <kevinnn> tx
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1414 [20:22:23] <rootkea> jhutchins, How do I do that?
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1429 [20:34:39] <unixbsd> which debian supports the zaurus 3100?
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1440 [20:41:37] <asterismo> hi, i have an old pc with a raid1 made
with 2 ide/ata drives
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1443 [20:42:21] <asterismo> i installed debian 10 and as soon as i
run update-grub, grub breaks and throw me ELF nonsense and grub
rescue
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1445 [20:42:58] <asterismo> i ended up installing debian 7 and i
have no problem running grub update (nedded when installing a new
kernel)
1446 [20:43:33] <asterismo> now i'm dist-upgrading to jessie,
is there anyway to keep old grub package from wheezy?
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1449 [20:47:44] <istrive> hi all, good afternoon and Happy
Thanksgiving to everyone!
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1451 [20:48:39] <istrive> I have the string State: powered off
(since 2020-10-26T15:39:19.000000000) from which I want to extract
the powered off portion only, with cut -d\: I have from powered off
forward
1452 [20:49:08] <istrive> how to remove the remaining text after
that?
1453 [20:50:17] <istrive> all i want from this whole string it the
[powered off] to work on my code
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1455 [20:50:57] <unixbsd> this is the running linux stuff on sharp
3100 (the regular dmesg: links termbin.com/cg1l ). is there a single
debian having armv5 in repos?
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1489 [21:18:27] <f-a> I had a power outage while running apt-get
install
1490 [21:19:09] <f-a> should I do anything or can I just resume
what I was installing
1491 [21:19:41] <sney> depends on where it was in the process, but
try resuming first
1492 [21:20:29] <f-a> sney: it worked, is there anything I should
check in particular? (i.e. is there an `apt-get check`) or should I
just carry on?
1493 [21:20:31] <istrive> how to use sed to extract the power off
portion from the string
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1495 [21:20:51] <istrive> State: powered off (since
2020-10-26T15:39:19.000000000)
1496 [21:21:15] <sney> f-a: 'apt -f install' will fix
any broken packages if there are any, but it doesn't sound like
apt gave you any errors
1497 [21:23:12] <f-a> thanks
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1502 [21:30:39] <istrive> how to use sed to extract the power off
portion from the string
1503 [21:30:40] <istrive> State: powered off (since
2020-10-26T15:39:19.000000000)
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1505 [21:31:19] <jhutchins> Can't really expect a
troubleshooting dialog if you don't respond for half an hour.
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1507 [21:33:49] <Some_Person> Uh... I have a big problem... seem
to have accidentally removed myself from all groups except one... I
can't use sudo now
1508 [21:34:05] <sney> istrive: there is a ##sed on this network,
if you ask the same question repeatedly and nobody answers it is a
good sign that nobody here atm has an answer for you
1509 [21:34:26] <petn-randall> Some_Person: Can you log in as
root?
1510 [21:34:32] <Some_Person> petn-randall: Nope
1511 [21:34:38] <Some_Person> Root doesn't have a password
1512 [21:34:44] <sney> Some_Person: use the following instructions
from dkpg to get a root shell, then re-add yourself to those groups
1513 [21:34:46] <sney> !ifrp
1514 [21:34:47] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit
the kernel setting in the grub command line (add
'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your
root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4)
'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6)
'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1)
'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift
while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux
init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
1515 [21:34:59] <jhutchins> ... beat me to it.
1516 [21:35:02] <sney> (that is, steps 1-3)
1517 [21:35:05] <petn-randall> seconded
1518 [21:35:29] <petn-randall> I always forget that fmrp is for
mysql, and then have to check to be sure.
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1520 [21:36:18] <Some_Person> What are all the groups a Debian
user is in by default?
1521 [21:37:18] <jhutchins> Some_Person: sudo isn't one of
them.
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1523 [21:37:47] <Some_Person> I must have been in sudo by default
though. I created this user during the Debian install process, and
did not give root a password
1524 [21:38:13] <jmcnaught> Some_Person: cdrom floppy audio dip
video plugdev netdev bluetooth lpadmin scanner
1525 [21:38:19] <jhutchins> Oh, yeah, I think it sets it up if you
don't give root a password.
1526 [21:38:36] <jhutchins> I appear to be in <username> lp
and scanner on this system.
1527 [21:38:40] <unixbsd> why this does not work? mkdir ~/debian ;
cd ~/debian ; debootstrap
--include=wireless-tools,mc,wpasupplicant,console-tools,alsa-base,alsa-utils
--arch armel --foreign sid armel-stage1
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1528 [21:39:16] <jhutchins> unixbsd: Which part doesn't work?
What happens instead of what you expect?
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1530 [21:39:43] <unixbsd> E: Failed getting release file
replaced-url
1531 [21:39:56] <jhutchins> unixbsd: If it's a sid specific
problem you may need to ask in #debian-next on oftc.net
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1533 [21:40:25] <unixbsd> with stable: same: mkdir ~/debian ; cd
~/debian ; debootstrap
--include=wireless-tools,mc,wpasupplicant,console-tools,alsa-base,alsa-utils
--arch armel --foreign stable armel-stage1
replaced-url
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1535 [21:40:36] <jhutchins> unixbsd: The release file might ot be
there for Armel.
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1537 [21:40:39] <jhutchins> !armel
1538 [21:40:39] <dpkg> armel is the Debian <ARM> EABI port,
first released with Debian 5.0 "Lenny".
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1539 [21:40:44] <jmcnaught> unixbsd: why are you using
debian-ports.org? Isn't armel still a supported architecture?
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1542 [21:41:08] <unixbsd> mkdir ~/debian ; cd ~/debian ;
debootstrap
--include=wireless-tools,mc,wpasupplicant,console-tools,alsa-base,alsa-utils
--arch armel --foreign stable armel-stage1
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1544 [21:43:15] <jmcnaught> unixbsd:
replaced-url
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1548 [21:45:22] <unixbsd> ok, it works: apt-get update ; apt-get
install debootstrap -y ; debootstrap --no-check-gpg --arch armel
--foreign --include=netbase,ssh,login,passwd,wpasupplicant stable .
replaced-url
1549 [21:46:39] <unixbsd> thank you
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1565 [22:01:37] <unixbsd> yeah it works. apt-get update ; apt-get
install debootstrap -y ; debootstrap --no-check-gpg --foreign --arch
armel
--include=netbase,gcc,clang,make,less,ssh,login,passwd,wpasupplicant
stable .
replaced-url
1566 [22:02:25] <unixbsd> after I copy the zImage and modules into
/lib/modules, and let's try this 3100 zaurus.
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1636 [23:15:54] <lord4163> Hello
1637 [23:16:05] <sney> hi
1638 [23:17:48] <lord4163> I tried installing the packages
openvswitch-switch and openvswitch-common, but the
openvswitch-switch service won't start and therefore won't
successfully install.
1639 [23:18:07] <lord4163> openvswitch-switch.service: Job
openvswitch-switch.service/start failed with result
'dependency'.
1640 [23:18:34] <lord4163> Any ideas?
1641 [23:19:14] <sney> is there more log than just that one line?
use
replaced-url
1642 [23:22:01] <lord4163> Ah yes looking more in the log, it
seems that it has a dependency service that fails as well: A start
job for unit openvswitch-nonetwork.service has failed
1643 [23:22:14] <lord4163> Failed to start Open vSwitch Internal
Unit.
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1646 [23:24:55] <sney> usually in the output of systemctl status
there is something more specific than "a start job has
failed" a few lines up. if there isn't, openvswitch may
have its own error log in /var/log.
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1648 [23:25:41] <sney> some daemons that can affect system
networking will ship with a default configuration that prevents the
service from starting until the user sets it up explicitly, that may
be the situation here
1649 [23:27:12] <lord4163> hm, rebooting worked?
1650 [23:28:36] <sney> odd, maybe you had a race condition
somehow. good thing it worked but keep an eye on it
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1652 [23:31:05] <lord4163> sney: Oh I think a kernel module
wasn't loaded, ignore my ignorance, I'm new to Open
vSwitch
1653 [23:32:30] <lord4163> Alrighty, great :)
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1658 [23:34:10] <roycroft> hello, folks
1659 [23:34:16] <roycroft> and happy thanksgiving to them that are
in the usa
1660 [23:34:45] <roycroft> i need to use a pre-release version of
an application that does not have its own aptitude repository
1661 [23:35:12] <sney> is a previous version in debian?
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1663 [23:35:24] <roycroft> i was able to build the app on a build
vm, but there are heaps of dependencies that i'll need to
install it on the workstations
1664 [23:35:31] <roycroft> yes, a previous version is in debian
1665 [23:35:35] <sney> !uupdate
1666 [23:35:36] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package)
upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if
the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get
source foo; wget -nd
replaced-url
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1668 [23:35:45] <roycroft> and i have installed that, but that
version is soemwhat broken and is missing some critical features
1669 [23:35:55] <Wh0amI_> iai seus menino
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1671 [23:36:04] <roycroft> but as i said, the developers do not
maintain a repository for it
1672 [23:36:12] <roycroft> so i can't do an update like that
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1674 [23:36:32] <sney> you said they don't maintain an apt
repository. dpkg's instructions are to do with source releases.
1675 [23:36:40] <sney> this can also be a master tarball from
github or whatever
1676 [23:36:41] <roycroft> what i want to do is create my own
package
1677 [23:36:47] <sney> it basically sets up a directory to build
the debian package.
1678 [23:37:03] <roycroft> ok, but i'll still have the same
issues
1679 [23:37:36] <roycroft> most notably, the version that is part
of the buster distribution uses python 2, while the pre-release
version requires python 3
1680 [23:37:51] <sney> ok, so you'll need to tweak d/control
a bit.
1681 [23:37:53] <roycroft> but there are dozens of other
dependencies that are different to the old version
1682 [23:37:56] <roycroft> a *lot*
1683 [23:38:02] <roycroft> and i've done all the work on the
build machine
1684 [23:38:06] <roycroft> what i want to do is package it up
1685 [23:38:12] <roycroft> so that i can install it on the
workstations
1686 [23:38:49] <roycroft> i looked at dh_make, but it's not
clear that that either is the appropriate tool, nor how i add all
the dependencides to it
1687 [23:39:00] <sney> let me know when you're done typing
1688 [23:39:00] <Wh0amI_> How to put password on my debian grub?
1689 [23:39:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1187
1690 [23:39:07] <roycroft> it says to add them to the
debian/control file, but does not document how to do so that i have
discovered
1691 [23:40:11] <roycroft> it appears there are several tools for
building packages, and right now i'd like to know what is the
most appropriate one for what i'm doing
1692 [23:40:37] <Wh0amI_> query roycroft
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1694 [23:41:05] <sney> roycroft: is that the end of your question?
1695 [23:41:09] <roycroft> please do not use privmsg without
permission, wh0ami_
1696 [23:41:14] <roycroft> that is the end of my question
1697 [23:41:20] <sney> Wh0amI_: this ubuntu doc looks current
replaced-url
1698 [23:41:45] <jmcnaught> roycroft: what are you trying to
build? If there is already a newer version in unstable it may be
easier to do a backport.
1699 [23:41:59] <roycroft> freecad-0.19-pre
1700 [23:42:17] <jmcnaught> ,v freecad
1701 [23:42:18] <judd> Package: freecad on amd64 -- jessie:
0.14.3702+dfsg-3; stretch: 0.16+dfsg2-3; buster: 0.18~pre1+dfsg1-5;
bullseye: 0.18.4+dfsg2-6; sid: 0.18.4+dfsg2-6
1702 [23:42:21] <sney> roycroft: ok, then here's my answer:
use uupdate from devscripts to update the debian source package to
the pre-release version you want to use. try to build it, if it
fails, make slight adjustments to the *existing* debian/control as
needed, (we can help with this) then use your new debian package on
your workstations.
1703 [23:42:21] <jmcnaught> guess not
1704 [23:42:38] <roycroft> the freecad folks build appimages
nightly, and they crash almost instantly when launched
1705 [23:43:45] <roycroft> sney: i should assume that the best way
to accomplish that is to set up the build machine with the same
environment as the workstations
1706 [23:44:06] <roycroft> and then install the debian package on
that
1707 [23:44:10] <roycroft> then do the update
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1709 [23:44:27] <roycroft> i've already built the package on
the build machine, and installed all the dependencies
1710 [23:44:47] <sney> roycroft: as long as it's the same
debian version, it's ok, then you can use a tool like pbuilder
to make the actual package free from any extra gunk
1711 [23:44:55] <roycroft> i can replicate that, but i think that
if i just install the debian package now and then update, everything
it needs will already be there
1712 [23:45:09] <roycroft> it is the same version
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1715 [23:46:53] <roycroft> i don't have debian sources
installed on the build machine
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1717 [23:47:11] <sney> is that something you need help with?
1718 [23:47:26] <roycroft> if i just install the debian package i
assume that i still won't have sources , so i should probably
install sources first, no?
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1721 [23:47:45] <roycroft> i mainly need help with understanding
what i need to do
1722 [23:47:51] <roycroft> how to do it i can sort out on my own
1723 [23:48:06] <roycroft> so install sources, install the debian
package, then update that particular package
1724 [23:48:14] <sney> alright, here's the overview a
different way:
1725 [23:48:16] <roycroft> and then tweak the debian/control file
as needed
1726 [23:48:53] <roycroft> i'm not trying to be difficult
1727 [23:49:06] <roycroft> and i know you think i'm overly
verbose, but i'm trying to be more succinct
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1729 [23:50:03] <sney> 1) combine the old debian package with the
new source from upstream, to create a "debianized" source
tree, version 0.19-pre. 2) run 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc'
and see what happens. 3) adjust as necessary until the build process
completes and you have an installable package. 4) run the .dsc
through pbuilder, and get a distributable package.
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1731 [23:50:32] <roycroft> thank you, i'll give that a go
1732 [23:50:35] <sney> !nmg
1733 [23:50:35] <dpkg> The packaging tutorial (replaced-url
1734 [23:50:42] <roycroft> and hopefully not have to bother you
further about this
1735 [23:50:58] <sney> ^ the first 2 links in dpkg's message
here contain a lot of background information about debian packaging.
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1740 [23:52:32] <sney> roycroft: it would be better if you
didn't hit enter so much when you're still in the middle
of describing the issue. it makes it hard to tell what you're
asking.
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1746 [23:53:51] <roycroft> i shall endeavor to comply with your
request
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1756 [23:58:29] <roycroft> well downloading the source for the
0.18 version of freecad gives me a debian/control file that makes
sense to me, so that's already a big help
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1758 [23:58:50] <roycroft> i'll read the linked documentation
on building packages before giving it another go
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