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101[00:43:36] <Mutter> Yo yo yo!
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112[00:45:45] <badgerSqueegee> is there a way to install a
single package from testing/.
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114[00:46:00] <Mutter> x86iac: thanks
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117[00:46:58] <x86iac> badgerSqueegee: use dpkg
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128[00:48:28] <Hardbasslover>
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129[00:48:29] <Hardbasslover>
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130[00:48:31] <Hardbasslover>
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139[00:52:02] <badgerSqueegee> x86iac: thanks, care to spoonfeed
a command? :)
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143[00:53:36] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: you shouldn't
install packages from testing on stable
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144[00:53:42] <jmcnaught> !ssb
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145[00:53:42] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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146[00:53:43] <x86iac> what is the package dkpg -i any.deb after
you download it and ALL it's dependencies
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148[00:53:56] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: you can try a simple
backport. what is the package?
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153[00:54:44] <badgerSqueegee> jmcnaught: dnscrypt-proxy
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156[00:55:31] <jmcnaught> ,checkbackport dnscrypt-proxy
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157[00:55:31] <judd> Backporting package dnscrypt-proxy in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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162[00:55:57] <badgerSqueegee> hmm, i have jessie backports in
my sources...
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163[00:56:18] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: you should be able to
do a backport. This recompiles the package for the libaries that are
in jessie. It's a manual process that needs to be repeated for
any updates
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166[00:58:24] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: what judd checks is
only the build dependencies, you may need to manually backport other
packages that dnscrypt-proxy depends on
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168[00:58:38] <badgerSqueegee> jmcnaught: so jessie-backports is
adequate in my sources? (im new to debian)
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169[00:59:05] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: you'll need to
follow the instructions in the ssb factoid from dpkg above
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170[00:59:21] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: or alternatively
replaced-url
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179[01:04:45] <wald0> why there's not a backport of the
chromium package on wheezy? (i ask specially because i thought that
i have see it before)
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180[01:05:07] <chaddy> wald0: 32 bit?
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186[01:06:01] <wald0> yes
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187[01:06:20] <x86iac> try seamonkey better then chrome
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188[01:06:28] <chaddy> upstream from google has stopped on 32bit
chrome?
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192[01:07:44] <wald0> yes i have see that on chrome, but there
was versions much more recent than the version 37 of chromium
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197[01:09:21] <miesco> ,nonfree debian dvd
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205[01:11:59] <miesco> dpkg: nonfree debian dvd
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206[01:11:59] <dpkg> no idea, miesco
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207[01:12:20] <miesco> dpkg: what is the link to the nonfree dvd
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208[01:12:20] <dpkg> miesco: what are you talking about?
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210[01:12:36] <miesco> dpkg: install
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211[01:12:36] <dpkg> There are a myriad of different ways to
install Debian. See
replaced-url
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212[01:13:17] <miesco> Whats the link to the debian dvd that has
nonfree drivers?
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213[01:13:20] <chaddy> miesco: the expert mode install allows
for adding nonfree/contrib sources
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215[01:13:44] <miesco> chaddy: Yea well I need the drivers for
my wifi
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218[01:14:03] <x86iac> and add more partitions
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221[01:14:40] <chaddy> miesco: that's a bit of a chicken
and egg problem, then
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222[01:14:54] <miesco> Where is the nonfree debian dvd
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223[01:14:57] <chaddy> do you have wired connectivity?
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224[01:15:16] <miesco> chaddy: Where is the nonfree debian dvd?
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225[01:15:35] <chaddy> which one?
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226[01:16:47] <miesco> chaddy: Something that lets me install
debian with nonfree firmware on amd64
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227[01:17:05] <chaddy> so the netinstall, expert mode, lan cable
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228[01:17:15] <zyley> you probably want
replaced-url
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231[01:18:39] <miesco> I'll just use the free one
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233[01:19:06] <jmcnaught> !firmware images
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234[01:19:06] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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235[01:19:35] <jmcnaught> miesco: there is a netinst image with
most of the non-free firmwares, it's also linked to in the
chapter about missing firmwares in the install manual
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237[01:20:21] <miesco> Well I have a ethernet if I need it
anyway
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239[01:20:46] <miesco> do I just do this? `cp file.iso
/dev/sdc1`?
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241[01:20:48] <chaddy> miesco: you should be fine in an expert
mode install, then
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244[01:21:20] <chaddy> dd if=some.iso
of=/dev/device*not*partition
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246[01:21:55] <chaddy> so /dev/sdc if you're sure
that's the device
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248[01:22:22] <jmcnaught> you don't need to use dd, cp is
fine. but you do need to write to the device. "lsblk" or
running "dmesg" after plugging it in should tell you the
device to use
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252[01:23:15] <miesco> jmcnaught: I hope its the right one!
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255[01:23:29] <jmcnaught> miesco: don't just hope, check
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256[01:23:38] <miesco> I think it is
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257[01:23:56] <chaddy> unplug, dmesg, replug, dmesg
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258[01:24:15] <miesco> ah its probably it
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259[01:24:44] <miesco> Should I type `sync` after?
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260[01:25:04] <jmcnaught> yes
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261[01:25:08] <x86iac> what is in the /etc/fstab (about sync)
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263[01:25:39] <jmcnaught> most people don't have random USB
sticks in their fstab
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267[01:26:03] <x86iac> tsk tsk using udev ...
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268[01:26:14] <miesco> Anyone use luks?
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271[01:26:30] <x86iac> ^^ bad security if not controlling it
manually
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273[01:26:38] <miesco> x86iac: luks?
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274[01:26:49] <x86iac> no
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275[01:27:03] <miesco> x86iac: Do you use it?>
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276[01:27:08] <x86iac> no
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277[01:27:56] <jmcnaught> miesco: the install can configure LUKS
encryption for you
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297[01:35:11] <qrtx> anyone here have audible working under
wine?
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298[01:35:17] <qrtx> it freezes every time I try and auth
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301[01:37:46] <Fat-Zer> is there a way to use plain folder with
locally-created *.deb's as a local repository for apt?
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308[01:41:58] <x86iac> what is a non-plain folder?
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310[01:42:44] <RoyK> Fat-Zer: perhaps an apache install is
easier
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313[01:43:35] <x86iac> check apt.onf
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314[01:43:40] <x86iac> check apt.conf
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319[01:45:12] <Fat-Zer> x86iac: a folder with some additional
filestructure/subdirs
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320[01:45:20] <jmcnaught> Fat-Zer: if you check "man
sources.list" it can understand file URIs, but the directory
would still need the files that makes it a repository. You could
look at using reprepro for that
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321[01:45:28] <Fat-Zer> RoyK: IMHO it's an overkill =)
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324[01:47:11] <badgerSqueegee> jmcnaught: thanks. building the
source now :)
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328[01:49:54] <badgerSqueegee> so the best way to install a
built package is with dpkg?
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329[01:50:32] <jmcnaught> badgerSqueegee: yes
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333[01:51:50] <fredl> damnit...
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334[01:52:12] <fredl> do me favor folks, check if you can
connect to 83.161.146.194:25
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337[01:52:33] <fredl> this router is really starting to baffle
me :/
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338[01:53:37] <fredl> *ugh* got it working again
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340[01:54:23] <fredl> if I enable IPV6 port forwarding it no
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346[01:56:22] <wewlad> hey, could anyone explain on what level
is it broken that I'm getting unreadable chars when connecting
over ssh instead of cyrillic chars?
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349[01:56:42] <wewlad> is it a terminal issue? is it ssh server
issue? what is it?
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353[01:57:03] <orlock> wewlad: hmm - tried a different terminal?
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354[01:57:24] <orlock> wewlad: did you accidentally read some
binary?
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357[01:57:36] <jmcnaught> wewlad: missing fonts, or not using
utf-8 encoding in your terminal emulator
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358[01:57:37] <wewlad> orlock: I doubt so
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359[01:57:47] <orlock> is it only the ssh connection? does the
password prompt appear ok>?
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363[01:58:50] <wewlad> orlock: just tried a different terminal -
same thing
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364[01:59:05] <orlock> at what point does the text garble?
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365[01:59:09] <wewlad> both password prompts appear ok
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366[01:59:26] <Fat-Zer> jmcnaught: thanks
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367[01:59:44] <orlock> wow, weird
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368[01:59:45] <wewlad> orlock:
replaced-url
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369[02:00:24] <orlock> ahah
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370[02:00:26] <orlock> ssh for win10?
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371[02:00:31] <wewlad> win7
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372[02:00:44] <x86iac> can you read/do cyrilliac on the computer
directly
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373[02:01:00] <wewlad> I guess so
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374[02:01:10] <orlock> yeah, missing fonts i guess
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375[02:01:17] <Fat-Zer> if anybody intrested here is oneliner:
"echo 'deb file:/path/to/folder ./' >>
/etc/apt/sources.list && cd /path/to/folder &&
pkg-scanpackages . | gzip -9c > Packages.gz && apt-get
update"
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376[02:01:24] <x86iac> this is a computer - no guessing allowed
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378[02:01:39] <wewlad> orlock: I doubt it is so, because I can
type in cyrillic into ssh prompt after I connected
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379[02:01:41] <orlock> x86iac: hello computer, you figure it out
then!
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380[02:01:57] <wewlad> another issue is that I can type letters
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381[02:02:13] <x86iac> termcap?
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384[02:02:27] <wewlad>
replaced-url
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385[02:02:34] <wewlad> what's 'termcap'?
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389[02:04:01] <s7r> why I can't install virtualbox in
jessie with kde desktop? it says unable to locate
linux-headers-grs-ipv6-64
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392[02:04:17] <x86iac> type echo $TERM after you log in ... and
can you do cryptical on the computer at the keyboard
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395[02:05:43] <wewlad> x86iac: there's no $TERM on windows
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398[02:06:05] <x86iac> lol this channel is #debian
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399[02:06:10] <wewlad> yup
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400[02:06:23] <wewlad> seems like you miss the point
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403[02:06:40] <wewlad> I'm using debian as client to
connect over ssh to the server running under windows
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404[02:06:43] <x86iac> i am? go ask in #windows it isn't a
linux problem
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405[02:06:57] <wewlad> echo $TERM will echo just
'$TERM' on windows
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406[02:07:19] <wewlad> it is a debian problem that it
doesn't show me cyrillic letters :)
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407[02:07:34] <x86iac> no it is what the windows is sending
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409[02:07:45] <wewlad> okay, windows sends something
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410[02:07:52] <wewlad> I want that something get read properly
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411[02:07:57] <wewlad> can debian do that?
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413[02:08:12] <miesco> How do I mount my flash install drive
where I can write (extract firmware files)?
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416[02:08:17] <x86iac> ask in $openssh
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417[02:08:23] <wewlad> I tried
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418[02:08:26] <wewlad> no one replied
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419[02:08:31] <x86iac> when?
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420[02:08:34] <wewlad> only you did
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425[02:09:09] <wewlad> x86iac: is it a locale thing? x86iac:
what does your locale show
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427[02:09:44] <orlock> wewlad: maybe theres different native vs
unicode cyrillic fonts?
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428[02:09:53] <wewlad> x86iac: and to answer that:
replaced-url
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430[02:10:32] <wewlad> orlock: I suppose windows can't
properly into unicode :(
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431[02:11:12] <x86iac> i'm going to guess the en_US.UTF-8
doesn't have cyrilliac chars
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432[02:11:29] <chaddy> unifont?
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435[02:12:08] <x86iac> can the linux client display cyrilliac?
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436[02:12:36] <miesco> I am getting this: mount: /dev/sdc1 is
write-protected, mounting read-only
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437[02:13:08] <wewlad> x86iac: yeah
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438[02:13:26] <RoyK> miesco: check dmesg
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439[02:13:39] <x86iac> ask again in #openssh
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441[02:14:03] <wewlad> after I execute 'chcp 65001'
(when connected to a windows shell) - the letters get transformed,
but most of them are still unreadable
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442[02:14:05] <miesco> [439455.932191] ISO 9660 Extensions:
Microsoft Joliet Level 3
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444[02:14:12] <RoyK> miesco: mostly it meens something is rather
messed up with you filesystem(s)
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445[02:14:32] <wewlad>
replaced-url
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447[02:14:34] <miesco> RoyK: Well I just did `cp
debian-install.iso /dev/sdc`
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449[02:14:37] <wewlad> but the rest is not
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450[02:14:58] <RoyK> something wrong with dc, then, perhaps?
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452[02:15:10] <RoyK> /dc/sdc/
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453[02:15:26] <miesco> RoyK: I don't know. It was a dvd
image, is that why?
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455[02:15:41] <x86iac> you kgb?
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457[02:15:49] <wewlad> a bit
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458[02:15:55] <wewlad> more fsb nowadays
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459[02:15:56] <RoyK> miesco: no, check dmesg
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462[02:16:17] <x86iac> can you help me get some relatives out of
the gulag?
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463[02:16:39] <x86iac> that is definely russian in the prompt-
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464[02:16:54] <wewlad> the part at left is not
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465[02:16:55] <miesco> RoyK:
replaced-url
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468[02:18:09] <RoyK> miesco: filesystem remounted readonly mean
something is wrong on it
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470[02:18:44] <RoyK> miesco: you can't fix that without
really umonting the fs and running an fsck
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471[02:19:24] <miesco> RoyK: `fsck /dev/sdc`?
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472[02:20:02] <Fat-Zer> is there a way to get source package
name a package was build from
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473[02:20:05] <RoyK> nighty: pastebin output of
'lsblk'
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474[02:20:09] <Fat-Zer> *on command line
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475[02:20:47] <miesco> RoyK: Me?
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476[02:20:56] <x86iac> wewlad: what is the part on the left
suppose to say?
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477[02:21:21] <RoyK> miesco: yes
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478[02:21:22] <wewlad> x86iac: dunno
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483[02:21:59] <wewlad> hold on, I'll try to use putty to
connect to 127.0.0.1
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484[02:22:03] <miesco> RoyK:
replaced-url
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485[02:22:20] <RoyK> and dmesg -T ?
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487[02:23:17] <RoyK> miesco: better be quick - I'm going to
bed
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490[02:23:58] <wewlad> x86iac: doesn't let me in :(
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492[02:24:12] <wewlad> says access denied after I write in
password
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493[02:24:16] <miesco> RoyK:
replaced-url
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494[02:24:19] <x86iac> why not?
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495[02:24:38] <x86iac> to many login attempts? ;)
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497[02:25:22] <miesco> RoyK: It was saying ealier that I need to
run fsck on it
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500[02:27:14] <wewlad> x86iac: I doubt so
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502[02:27:43] <wewlad> also, if I use KiTTY (putty like client)
it says 'KiTTY Fatal Error: expected key exchange group packet
from server'
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505[02:28:08] <orlock> putin's in your box
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506[02:28:11] <orlock> 0wning ur keys
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507[02:28:34] <wewlad> much funny such wow
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508[02:28:47] <orlock> says isis@usa.gov
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509[02:29:03] <wewlad> indeed
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515[02:33:10] <Somelauw> What is the recommended way of
recovering grub after installing Windows 10 when using Debian
Jessie? I saw a guide that uses chroot, but I think there might be a
better/easier way to do it.
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517[02:33:52] <x86iac> grub-update?
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520[02:35:01] <Somelauw> from a live cd?
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521[02:35:19] <dvs> Somelauw, this will keep on happening even
after the install.
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523[02:36:08] <Somelauw> this is the guide I found:
replaced-url
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526[02:36:42] <miesco> /bin/cp: error writing
‘/dev/sdc’: No space left on device
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527[02:36:42] <dvs> Somelauw, you can use rescue mode from a
Debian install cd.
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528[02:37:12] <miesco> I got that from this: /bin/cp
Downloads/firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc
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529[02:37:26] <x86iac> use dd
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530[02:37:57] <Somelauw> Advanced options doesn't show a
rescue mode.
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532[02:39:29] <x86iac>
replaced-url
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534[02:39:51] <miesco> x86iac: dd: writing to
‘/dev/sdc’: No space left on device
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537[02:40:26] <x86iac> what does fdisk -l /dev/sdc say and is it
umounted?
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538[02:40:36] <x86iac> what is /dev/sdc? usb
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540[02:41:14] <miesco> x86iac:
replaced-url
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541[02:41:56] <miesco> I am trying to run fsck on it
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543[02:42:26] <TylerHoffman> Any free VPNs that does nto rquire
subscription?
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544[02:42:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> TylerHoffman, Tor
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545[02:42:48] <Gryllida> or i2p
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546[02:44:10] <miesco> x86iac:
replaced-url
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548[02:44:12] <b6s3d> how do i get bluetoothctl to start on
boot?
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549[02:44:30] <x86iac> dd to sdc1
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550[02:44:54] <x86iac> can you mount /dev/sdc2
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551[02:45:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> b6s3d, is bluetooth.service
enabled?
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553[02:45:22] <miesco> x86iac: That works
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555[02:46:09] <b6s3d> thanks lol
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556[02:46:41] <b6s3d> i think that might have done it brb
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557[02:47:04] <miesco> x86iac: Okay it copied. Still unreadable
but its the nonfree netinstall so I don't need to cp
firmware.tar over anyway.
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558[02:47:28] <wewlad> can I somehow force debian to use cp866
for ssh connection?
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560[02:49:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, SSH has no notion of
codepages, what exactly do you mean? Setting the encoding for fs
operations?
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561[02:50:20] <wald0> chaddy:yes i have see that on chrome, but
there was versions much more recent than the version 37 of chromium
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562[02:50:22] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: server does send some
messages, right?
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563[02:50:26] <wald0> im confused... there's no results of
seamonkey in the packages of debian:
replaced-url
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566[02:50:51] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: those messages are
encoded somehow, usually it's utf-8, aka cp65001
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567[02:51:18] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: and I'd like debian
to read those messages not as if they are in 65001 but as if they
are in cp866
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568[02:51:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, not anything textual, it
just relays back and forth arbitrary data to whatever you're
logging into
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570[02:52:14] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: when you log in to a
remote server - you at least get the server's prompt text
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572[02:52:42] <x86iac> wald0: isn't it called iceape?
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573[02:52:44] <wewlad> that prompt text is encoded in cp866, but
debian reads it as if it's in cp65001, is there a way to change
that?
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576[02:53:25] <miesco> How do I get irssi src from
jessie-backports, modify the code and make it a .deb again?
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577[02:53:33] <miesco> ,v irssi
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578[02:53:34] <judd> Package: irssi on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.8.15-2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.15-5~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.15-5;
wheezy-backports: 0.8.17-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.8.17-1;
jessie-backports: 0.8.19-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.8.19-2; stretch: 0.8.19-2
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582[02:54:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, the prompt isn't
part of the SSH server, it's just the shell. It seems to me the
TERM isn't getting through or the server is badly
misconfigured.
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583[02:55:28] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah, the shell on the
side of the server
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584[02:55:39] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: there's no
'TERM'
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585[02:55:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> miesco, apt-get source -t
jessie-backports irssi
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587[02:57:17] <miesco> Eduard_Munteanu: Should I do this?
'apt-get install build-essential fakeroot devscripts'
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588[02:57:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, that's the problem
then. Your terminal sets TERM, and it should be getting through to
the remote host so that it knows what to talk to it.
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589[02:57:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> miesco, yes
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591[02:58:18] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: I doubt that would help
if my server told debian that I am using cmd.exe terminal :)
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594[02:59:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, there goes your problem
:)
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595[02:59:24] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: where?
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596[02:59:26] <b6s3d> How do i connect a wireless keyboard on
start up?
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598[02:59:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, use an actual terminal
emulator, not cmd
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599[02:59:57] <b6s3d> i am using only command line interfaces
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600[03:00:09] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: but I am okay with
cmd.exe
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601[03:00:12] <wewlad> it works
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602[03:00:53] <wewlad> the problem is that linux client's
has no options for codepages
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606[03:02:47] <Sygram> hi all
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608[03:03:05] <Sygram> I need some help getting my USB type C to
work, any ideas?
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610[03:03:21] <Sygram> my laptop is a dell xps 13 9350
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611[03:03:45] <Sygram> debian 8.5 kernel 4.4 (already tried
upgrading to kernel 4.6 but it still doesn't work)
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615[03:04:12] <wewlad> usb type C is modern hardware
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618[03:05:02] <Sygram> yeah, I'm aware of that
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619[03:05:04] <wewlad> I'd check back in ~5 years
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620[03:05:09] <Sygram> D:
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621[03:05:26] <Sygram> I was really looking forward to use
debian as my main os
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623[03:05:42] <wewlad> that's okay, just use older hardware
for that
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624[03:05:47] <Sygram> but I need to be able to use 2 screens,
laptop is too small
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625[03:05:49] <Sygram> how?
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626[03:05:57] <Sygram> like an usb to VGA?
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627[03:06:08] <wewlad> sell your current PC and buy an older
one?
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628[03:06:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, you might want to try
setting TERM to a sane value, but the server might not recognize
them anyway
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629[03:06:20] <Sygram> wtf
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630[03:06:33] <Sygram> I'm a student
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632[03:06:37] <Sygram> can't really afford much
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633[03:06:53] <wewlad> so earn by selling newer pc and getting
older pc
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635[03:07:13] <wewlad> (older hardware is cheaper)
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637[03:08:07] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: maybe you've missed
an important part where I say that ssh server is under windows os,
so setting $TERM won't affect anything, windows doesn't
use that envvar
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639[03:08:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, wait, the server is
Windows, not the client?
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640[03:08:36] <wewlad> yes
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641[03:08:40] <Sygram> so that's your solution :/
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642[03:08:44] <Sygram> feels bad man
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644[03:08:56] <wewlad> Sygram: or just wait ~5 years
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646[03:09:02] <Sygram> lol
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647[03:09:15] <wewlad> or install windoze and have your debian
in a VM
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648[03:09:18] <wewlad> like I do
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650[03:09:23] <wildbills> Sygram kernel 4.4 should support c.
maybe its your chipset driver. can you run this lspci -d ::0c03 -k
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652[03:10:02] <Sygram> wildbills, it says invalid id
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655[03:11:08] <b6s3d> how do i make my raspberry pi pair with my
bluetooth keyboard on start up ?
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656[03:11:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, in that case you need to
configure/use a terminal that supports the Windows encoding.
That's terminal-specific.
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657[03:11:35] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: oh, thanks.
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658[03:11:44] <wewlad> I guess there aren't just any such
terminals
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659[03:11:52] <wildbills> Sygram maybe just lspci and look for
the usb controller section there
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662[03:12:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, you can do a character
conversion with iconv, but I'm not entirely sure it helps.
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665[03:13:14] <Sygram> I just checked against the archilinux
lspci
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668[03:13:49] <miesco> I have a ESP partition on my laptop. I am
encrypting my computer with LUKS. Do I need to delete this partition
or can I keep it untouched?
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669[03:14:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> miesco, don't touch it
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671[03:16:24] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: maybe it'd solve
the issue, but I'm just not going even to try it. I think
I'd better try to install another shell onto windows
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672[03:16:51] <wewlad> powershell still spits out non-readable
chars
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673[03:17:08] <wewlad> also, unreadable chars is just 1 of 3/4
problems I have
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674[03:17:25] <wewlad> Issue #2 is that I can't erase the
typed chars. wtf?
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677[03:17:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> wewlad, ultimately Windows
doesn't really have much of a concept of terminals
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680[03:18:12] <wewlad> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah, just like linux
doesn't really have much of a concept about codepages :/
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681[03:18:27] <Eduard_Munteanu> Actually it does.
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682[03:18:39] <wewlad> just like windows && terminals
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683[03:18:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> No.
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684[03:19:02] <wewlad> ok.
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685[03:19:09] <miesco> Okay I did `debuild -b -uc -us`, then
changed stuff, then did `debuild -b -uc -us`, then just `dpkg -i
newpackage.deb`. Will this be the same version as the version before
I edited it?
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686[03:19:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> You're missing the point,
Windows does all screen stuff out of band.
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688[03:19:49] <wewlad> Issue #3 is that sometimes I can't
connect to my ssh server anymore, like it's jammed. I have to
restart ssh server in order to be able to connect again, but I guess
it's more related to #openssh, rather than this channel…
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689[03:20:08] <jasabella> when/why would a package be available
in stable but not testing repos/
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690[03:20:10] <jasabella> ?
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693[03:21:04] <jasabella> oh nm
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697[03:22:00] <miesco> I didn't do any patch stuff, just
straight up edited it, did debuild, then dpkg -i
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698[03:22:03] <x86iac> there is a great terminal for windows
that would allow $TERM
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700[03:23:10] <x86iac> s/allow/have/
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701[03:24:30] <x86iac> miesco: the version in a file? version.h
?
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703[03:24:53] <miesco> x86iac: I didn't touch any
version.h, I just changed the .c file
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705[03:25:22] <miesco> I am guessing I just replaced the current
version with mine
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706[03:25:33] <sarkis> hey all - i'm so confused... i do an
apt-get install git... but it restarts mysql.. how and why?! :(
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707[03:25:34] <x86iac> install it and check the version :) using
the apps cli version/help output option
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709[03:25:56] <x86iac> git uses mysql
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710[03:26:12] <sarkis> wut
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712[03:26:19] <miesco> x86iac: "Unpacking irssi
(0.8.19-1~bpo8+1) over (0.8.19-1~bpo8+1) ..."
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716[03:28:35] <x86iac> miesco: looks the same :)_
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720[03:30:11] <miesco> whatever
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722[03:30:26] <sarkis> x86iac: git doesn't use mysql
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723[03:30:51] <sarkis> at least apt-cache depends git
doesn't list it as a dependency
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724[03:30:54] <miesco> I am reinstall debian on my laptop to
make it paranoid secure. Should I overwite swap with 0s?
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727[03:32:22] <miesco> Or do I just zero out my ext4 partition?
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733[03:34:08] <mutante> miesco: dd the whole disk and create new
partiitions anyways during installer
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735[03:34:34] <mutante> miesco: and let it do encrypted
filesystem this time
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736[03:35:01] <miesco> mutante: No, I have a ESP partition
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738[03:35:41] <miesco> mutante: That means I should not touch
that. Correct?
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739[03:36:05] <miesco> I'll just zero out my swap to be
safe
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740[03:36:16] <mutante> miesco: ooh.. ok. is there an advantage
that makes up for the disadvantage vs oldschool BIOS?
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741[03:37:49] <x86iac> sarkis: you have github? gitlab? trac?
installed something you are doing with git uses mysql
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743[03:38:37] <mutante> miesco:
replaced-url
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746[03:40:56] <miesco> mutante: I don't know. I just
remember spending days learning about EFI and setting it up. I
forget everything now as it was a couple years ago.
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748[03:41:18] <miesco> mutante: Should I encrypt my ESP
partition?
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750[03:41:33] <mutante> miesco: i dont know it, probably not
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751[03:41:51] <mutante> miesco: that second link looks like what
you'd want if you deleted it
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752[03:42:11] <miesco> mutante: So leave my 'biosgrub'
partition and 'ESP' partition and just encrypt the
'crypto' parition and the 'swap' partition?
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753[03:42:54] <mutante> miesco: i would try to just boot into
the installer and select guided partitioning with crypto
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755[03:43:19] <mutante> miesco: and then let that handle that
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759[03:44:13] <x86iac> miesco: you really don't need to
hide your justin beiber pic collection with encryption - your
'interest' is already noted in your internet permanent
file
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762[03:44:36] <miesco> x86iac: ?
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763[03:45:21] <mutante> whatever bieber has to do with that.
next
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772[03:50:36] <bwmaker> Hey everyone, I'm using Debian
Testing and it seems that after a dist-upgrade today, typing on my
keyboard has some lag and is most noticeable in Gnome Terminal. In
Terminal and Guake, typing many keys randomly will cause delay and
often a particular key will seem to get stuck and continue like
this: llllllllllllllllllll; Until I CTRL+C. Any thoughts?
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774[03:50:52] <bwmaker> I even booted Debian Jessie from USB and
could not reproduce there.
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776[03:51:45] <bwmaker> I switched to TTY2 and there is still
some lag, but the keys do not seem to "stick". Even typing
here, there is a bit of lag but not nearly as noticeable. It's
like typing in a slow SSH session.
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779[03:54:02] <x86iac> what does top and ps -efw show anything
you don't expect to be running that wasn't therre before
upgrade? (cron/atd ...)
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781[03:54:42] <miesco> Basically, all I need to know is how safe
it is for EFS and biosgrub partitions to not be encrypted?
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787[03:57:47] <bwmaker> x86iac: Checking now. Thanks!
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788[03:57:49] <miesco> For LUKS, should my encrypted swap's
"Encryption key" be "Passphrase" or "Random
Key"?
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789[03:58:32] <miesco> Swap is just memory that should be
deleted anyway, so if it created a random key on boot it
doesn't matter. right?
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792[04:00:02] <x86iac> encrypting swap is kinda extreme
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795[04:00:41] <miesco> x86iac: Not really... it will leak data
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797[04:00:55] <x86iac> lol to who?
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798[04:01:05] <miesco> x86iac: The cyptoanalysis
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799[04:01:28] <x86iac> i'd be more concerned about ssl and
your browser and cookies etc
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800[04:01:39] <miesco> x86iac: What do you mean?
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801[04:01:48] <mutante> miesco: i guess random key is fine
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802[04:01:52] <mutante> miesco: " The random password is
discarded on shutdown,"
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804[04:01:57] <x86iac> you use skype? or facebook? or google?
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805[04:02:06] <miesco> x86iac: I use facebook sometimes, yes
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806[04:02:13] <miesco> sometimes google also
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807[04:02:22] <orlock> If anybody really cares..
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808[04:02:26] <orlock> worry about dark parking lots
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809[04:02:28] <x86iac> firefox phones home everytime you load it
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810[04:02:31] <mutante> "something else is bad" doesnt
change it
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811[04:02:47] <miesco> x86iac: What does that mean?
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812[04:03:28] <x86iac> you use your computer at coffee shops?
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813[04:03:32] <mutante> it doesnt mean much besides
"everything sucks"
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814[04:03:57] <b6s3d> how do i make my raspberry pi pair with my
bluetooth keyboard on start up ? (command line/jessie lite)
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815[04:04:08] <x86iac> just do a google on 'equation
group'
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816[04:04:18] <mutante> i thought we dont use google
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817[04:04:26] <abrotman> jessie lite?
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820[04:04:56] <x86iac> i love google and wikipedia
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823[04:05:24] <x86iac> but i don't use javascript or allow
cookies
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825[04:06:25] <bwmaker> qx86iac: Nothing looks out of the
ordinary in htop. Nothing is taking a terrible amount of resources,
save for Chrome. Sometimes gnome-shell pops up toward the top of the
list with 4% CPU spike.
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826[04:06:27] <b6s3d> how do i enabled ferm to start up on boot?
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828[04:07:10] <b6s3d> nvm going to bed
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841[04:14:20] <x86iac> b[no-tab-completion] use rcconf or
chkconfig
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842[04:14:50] <x86iac> and ^^ bwmaker
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844[04:15:58] <jmcnaught> x86iac: you use chkconfig and rcconf
on Debian?
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845[04:16:00] <miesco> x86iac: I use my computer at coffee shop
but I use ssh instead of telnet and I only connect to trusted hosts
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847[04:16:36] <x86iac> yes
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849[04:17:11] <x86iac> miesco: look up at the ceiling and all
the cams there recording your keystrokes for later review
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850[04:17:31] <miesco> x86iac: I use public key
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852[04:18:25] <x86iac> i'm talking about what you type in
email and sites - the keyboard is flat and can be seen from above
and the keyboard layout is standard
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855[04:18:50] <miesco> x86iac: I don't care about emails
and all that
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858[04:19:06] <miesco> x86iac: Just my poetry
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859[04:19:08] <jmcnaught> /join #debian-offtopic
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860[04:19:50] <x86iac> apt-get install rcconf chkconfig
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863[04:20:18] <x86iac> jmcnaught: if you do / /join dsfsdf ;)
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865[04:21:02] <jmcnaught> x86iac: on jessie if you're using
the default systemd you should use systemctl
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866[04:21:49] <x86iac> it was broken when i started debian so
never rechecked it
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867[04:22:08] <bwmaker> x86iac:
replaced-url
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870[04:23:09] <bwmaker> x86iac: Nothing really looks out of
place, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Sorry for
the trouble and thanks for your help! :-)
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871[04:23:21] <jmcnaught> x86iac: the traditional Debian
update-rc.d is now a wrapper around systemctl, i don't know if
chkconfig would be
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873[04:24:36] <x86iac> bwmaker: np - can you use pastebin.com i
cant get to the paste.debian.net -i think we have had dns trouble
today
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874[04:24:49] <bwmaker> Sure thing
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877[04:26:08] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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878[04:26:29] <bwmaker> x86iac:
replaced-url
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881[04:28:33] <x86iac> bwmaker: anacron and atd might be your
problem with what they run - do you need them? you have a lot of
servers running - turn off what you aren't using for sure ...
google things if you don't know what they are and take notes :)
so if you need things later you know what to turn back on
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884[04:29:13] <jmcnaught> bwmaker: don't turn of anacron
and atd
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885[04:29:36] <jmcnaught> *off
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886[04:30:32] <x86iac> anacron AND cron on the same system?
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887[04:30:37] <jmcnaught> bwmaker: you could ask in #debian-next
on irc.oftc.net where you'll find other testing users that
might have had the same problem
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889[04:31:02] <bwmaker> Oh cool. I was looking for
#debian-testing... :-)
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890[04:31:18] <jmcnaught> x86iac: why do you think that anacron
would cause gnome terminal to lag?
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892[04:31:24] <bwmaker> Thanks, jmcnaught and x86iac for your
time.
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893[04:31:43] <x86iac> who knows what it is running that is cpu
or disk intensive
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894[04:32:00] <bwmaker> I was a little thrown by that too as
nothing is really using that much CPU or MEM.
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895[04:32:28] <jmcnaught> it's more than likely a bug
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896[04:32:56] <x86iac> bwmaker: what is the cpu speed of your
computer?
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897[04:33:29] <bwmaker> Haswell dual core i7. 1.7ghz, I believe
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898[04:33:36] <x86iac> do a netstat -an and see what all is
listening for stuff
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899[04:33:57] <x86iac> lsof | less for all the open files
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901[04:34:11] <bwmaker> The load average in htop is 0.24. No
fans are kicking on either.
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902[04:34:58] <x86iac> what kind of system? server? desktop?
pre-empt? etc
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903[04:35:05] <x86iac> ^^ kernel
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904[04:35:16] <jmcnaught> bwmaker: i would look at bugs filed
against gnome-terminal, gtk and xorg packages to see if you can find
others having the same problem
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905[04:35:43] <x86iac> are you using crupto on your disks? you
are running stuff for it
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906[04:36:06] <bwmaker> Thanks, jmcnaught. I'll do that. I
really don't think there's a rogue process or greedy
daemon anywhere.
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907[04:36:23] <bwmaker> x86iac: Yes, but it's been fine up
'til the past day or so.
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908[04:37:25] <bwmaker> I thought I noticed it before, but
especially after the dist-upgrade today. However, after an upgrade,
the mind is more prone to taking notice of things that have been
there all along. :-)
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914[04:42:42] <awal1> Trying to find out how to debug an issue
with 'gnome-themes-standard' (adwaita theme) in my sid
machine: if I have the word "debiaan" and I put the mouse
pointer between the two the last a and n for select the a for remove
it I get the n selected not the a: for select the second a I must
try to select n, pointing the mouse pointer after n for get the
second a selected. It happens only in gtk based apps (thunar,
pcmanfm, hexchat, leafpad, mousepad... If I
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915[04:42:42] <awal1> use a gtk2 theme or another gtk3 theme
(mate theme, clearlooks-pehinx-theme...) the problem disappears. Any
clue?
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916[04:43:26] <awal1> bad english, but there we go :P
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921[04:46:51] <awal1> Is my question comprensible? :P
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1247[09:08:47] <slu> Hey guys, i want to establish a vpn
connection between two of my server but I have some problems with
setting up openvpn. Seems like one of my (virtual server)
doesn't have a tunnel interface. Syslog tells the following
after I created it manually:
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1248[09:08:49] <slu> Note: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun:
Operation not permitted (errno=1)
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1249[09:09:04] <slu> Does anybody have a idea how to solf this ?
:(
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1250[09:09:09] <slu> solve
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1251[09:09:29] <erm3nda> does your VPS have a TUN/TAP module?
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1254[09:09:37] <erm3nda> if yes, it is you root of the VPS?
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1258[09:09:58] <slu> mh, I'm not sure. How can i check this.
And yes, I'm root
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1259[09:10:10] <erm3nda> modprobe, but not sure of the name of
the module
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1262[09:10:34] <erm3nda> seems is modprobe tun
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1264[09:11:05] <slu> modprobe didn't found the module, I
already tried this.
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1265[09:11:06] <slu> FATAL: Module tun not found.
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1266[09:11:16] <erm3nda> so you have no tun modules on your
system
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1267[09:11:27] <slu> mh - that's bad.
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1268[09:11:34] <erm3nda> sure, ask provider for them
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1269[09:11:35] <slu> So i have to ask my provider to enable this
?
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1271[09:11:42] <erm3nda> i did on the past
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1272[09:11:46] <slu> ok, fine - I'll try my best
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1273[09:11:49] <erm3nda> the current ones i use does have it by
default
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1276[09:12:16] <slu> why this isn't enabled by default?
where's the risk ? !
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1277[09:12:32] <erm3nda> im not sure if it's risk related
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1284[09:13:13] <slu> so if /dev/net/tun isn't enabled, it
isn't in the kernel ? Do I assume right ?
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1286[09:13:58] <erm3nda> seems that it isn't on the kernel,
but, btw the standard linux kernel has it
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1287[09:14:04] <erm3nda> so its a bit stronge
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1288[09:14:08] <erm3nda> old kernel?
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1289[09:14:31] <erm3nda> im not sure if tun is by default on
debian
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1290[09:14:36] <erm3nda> it is on Centos at least
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1293[09:15:10] <slu> 3.2.41-042stab111.12
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1294[09:15:13] <erm3nda> i've also found Centos vps with no
tun tap, but when asked for it the provided accepted to enable
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1295[09:15:30] <slu> I have to upgrade to jessie ..
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1296[09:15:43] <erm3nda> idk
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1297[09:16:11] <erm3nda> my Jessie does have tun modules
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1298[09:16:24] <erm3nda> and my 1$/month vps too :V
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1299[09:16:31] <erm3nda> so, ask provider
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1300[09:16:39] <slu> all right, thanks !
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1406[09:57:31] <nikio_> why is the debian temperature showing a
wrong temperature
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1407[09:57:35] <nikio_> it says its 5 degrees
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1408[09:57:41] <nikio_> but its like 25 degrees
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1409[09:57:43] <nikio_> celcius
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1413[09:58:20] <ransur0t> nikio_: sensor?
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1414[09:58:40] <ransur0t> which?
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1415[09:58:55] <nikio_> nope im assuming its extracting it from
some weather service
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1416[09:58:57] <nikio_> or trying to
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1417[09:59:09] <nikio_> i mean the one at the top of the screen
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1418[09:59:15] <nikio_> weather temperature
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1419[09:59:59] <ransur0t> desktop gui weather app -- which
desktop, gnome? (gnome-weather)
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1426[10:01:50] <nikio_> im guessing its gnome
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1429[10:03:10] <ransur0t> yes, most likely gnome. check config
for the app/extension -- >
replaced-url
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1430[10:03:40] <ransur0t> could be geolocation, or C/F settings
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1431[10:03:50] <nikio_> well
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1432[10:03:55] <nikio_> you can edit those by clicking on the
widget
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1434[10:03:59] <nikio_> and they are set correctly
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1436[10:04:11] <ransur0t> hmmm ...
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1437[10:04:32] <nikio_> also the time was incorrect i had to
manually set it to two hours earlier than it showed
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1441[10:05:37] <ransur0t> time could be a ntp (network time)sync
issue, or if you mobo/system hardware clock isn't set correctly
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1447[10:06:22] <ransur0t> i think you have the option to sync
time when you install debian, when it asks about hardware clock
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1451[10:08:34] <ransur0t> and can change it --> see here:
replaced-url
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1455[10:11:06] <nikio_> hmm i think its because debian uses utc
by default
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1457[10:11:33] <ransur0t> nikio_: as for temperature error, it
could be the service that the app/widget is pulling data from. for
example, yahoo weather could be presenting incorrect data for your
location
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1459[10:11:49] <ransur0t> niko: yup, utc by default
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1462[10:12:57] <nikio_> ok thanks a lot ransur0t
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1463[10:13:16] <ransur0t> no prob, glad to help, yw :)
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1473[10:20:03] <fredl> hmm anybody have an idea what this means?
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1474[10:20:13] <fredl> inet6
2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f834/64 scope global deprecated
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1475[10:20:13] <fredl> valid_lft forever preferred_lft 0sec
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1476[10:20:32] <fredl> the 'deprecated' part
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1489[10:27:02] <fredl> sorry about that
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1490[10:27:12] <bezaban> fredl: privacy extentions
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1493[10:27:33] <fredl> would you please elaborate bezaban?
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1494[10:28:05] <bezaban> fredl: you will get one
'static' dynamically allocated ipv6 with slaac, but it
will use 'random' ones for outgoing connections to avoid
being able to computing your mac addr
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1499[10:28:36] <fredl> well I am not using slaac right now
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1500[10:28:45] <bezaban> fredl: these will with age become
deprecated, but still sit on the interface. If I am correctly
assessing that this is what is happening
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1501[10:29:00] <bezaban> think you'll get it with stateless
dhcpv6 too
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1503[10:29:04] <fredl> I put a static one in
/etc/network/interface for 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833
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1504[10:29:29] <bezaban> ah, well still might be privacy
extentions
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1505[10:29:32] <fredl> as I'm trying to bind some services
to that one at boot time and if I wait for slaac it doesn't
exist yet when I boot
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1507[10:30:46] <fredl> I had also added the second one , the f834
one, but that one got deprecated
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1508[10:31:15] <bezaban> hm. well there stops my ipv6 knowledge
;)
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1509[10:31:28] <fredl> LOL, mine as well :P
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1510[10:31:52] <bezaban> just recently got it up native at home,
online everything is static and work doesn't have it (yet)
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1511[10:32:05] <bezaban> not seeing it on my statically
configured host
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1512[10:32:05] <fredl> I find it to be a great big mess to be
honest, but it feels like discovering tcp/ip some 30 years ago when
I was still a student :P
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1513[10:32:21] <bezaban> haha yeah
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1516[10:34:01] <Arone> hi
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1517[10:34:27] <fredl> what's real weird is in some cases it
appears my ipv4 port forwarding stops to work when I add the ipv6
host to the access rules on my router :/
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1522[10:42:02] <Zliba> alright i've spent a day on this....
how do i recompile and install a kernell? I need to enable a module
to make ufs writable
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1527[10:47:28] <fredl> Hrmm I don't even understand what
I'm looking at with route -A ip6
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1528[10:47:44] <fredl> what strange looking routes we have...
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1535[10:53:58] <ransur0t> Zliba: have you consulted Debian
administrator's handbook, or wiki, or something like:
replaced-url
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1540[10:57:47] <dka> I am tryin to concatenate strings in bash. I
have 'a=mail-server; b=/backup/assoc', I need to have
'c=$a/$b', this should be easy. BUT, when I try to log $a,
i have the correct content, when i log $b before concatenate, I have
correct $b, but after concat, I have "//mailserversoc". Is
it normal bash behavior to fuck up the strings ?
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1544[10:59:09] <pragomer_1> need help with cifs:
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1545[10:59:22] <pragomer_1> I have this in my fstab:
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1547[10:59:42] <pragomer_1> /192.168.2.11/winshare_h
/media/winshare_h cifs uid=michael,gid=michael,username=guest 0 0
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1550[11:00:06] <pragomer_1> this worked for connection to my
windows 7 pc to drive H:
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1553[11:00:19] <pragomer_1> after window10 upgrade. with same
settings on windows.. does not work.
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1554[11:00:29] <pragomer_1> I get mount error(13): cifs
permission denied
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1555[11:00:32] <pragomer_1> any idea?
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1561[11:04:55] <spacebug^> dka:
replaced-url
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1571[11:10:49] <L0aD1nG> isnt a debian supported package the
simplescreenrecorder?
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1661[12:05:50] <McD> Hi, i am having the same problem i
encountered many times with debian . I am looking for the download
URL for old debian-CD images. please send me a notice...
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1662[12:06:12] <McD> /message
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1663[12:06:17] <unborn> hi guys, how can I allow one ip to folder
or link with iptables on debian jessie?
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1669[12:10:53] <unborn> basically I would like to block access to
port 8000 with iptables for everyone except my own ip..
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1679[12:13:18] <careta> iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT;
iptables -A INPUT --dport 8000 -j DROP
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1680[12:13:22] <careta> unborn
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1681[12:13:36] <gingitsune> I have some trouble figuring out
whats taking up all my server space
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1683[12:13:59] <gingitsune> df -h reports
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1684[12:14:00] <gingitsune> /dev/sda2 37G 35G 0 100% /
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1685[12:14:09] <gingitsune> du -hsc / reports that total usage is
at 7.1G
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1687[12:14:35] <gingitsune> on the mount poin, so I'm not
sure where to look or how?
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1692[12:16:35] <McD> gingitsune: did you try "du -hs
./*" to see the size of the containing folders ?
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1694[12:17:29] <McD> of your pwd (present working directory)
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1702[12:20:48] <jmd> Can anyone explain to me how to use
update-alternatives?
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1703[12:21:05] <jmd> YEs. I have read the manual!
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1711[12:26:48] <unborn> careta: where I suppose to put my own ip?
I mean how srv would know what to allow via 8000
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1716[12:29:46] <gingitsune> McD: I tried . and * and now your
option. I still can't observe what takes up all that space
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1720[12:32:06] <careta> unborn, is this your own machine or a
third party server?
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1721[12:32:17] <unborn> careta: my own of course
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1723[12:32:38] <McD> gingitsune: maybe try my option with a
leading .(dot), like : du -hs ./.* (in case of hidden files)
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1725[12:32:42] <careta> then -o lo says it comes from localhost,
so should work fine
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1726[12:32:48] <unborn> careta: I know how to block ips
completely but I would like to know how to allow only my ip and
block anything else
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1727[12:33:33] <careta> unborn, but what I mean is this a local
machine, or a remote server?
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1728[12:33:35] <jmd> unborn: You want to configure your machine,
so that only your machine can connect to it?
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1732[12:34:08] <jmd> That's easy remove all interfaces
except lo
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1733[12:34:16] <careta> yup that's what I said
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1734[12:34:17] <McD> gingitsune: remember the command only works
in current working directory..
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1735[12:34:40] <careta> but it doesn't make any sense I
think he means he wants to connect to a server, and only allow his
ip
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1736[12:34:43] <unborn> careta: its local network in my home,
however in my mums its remote.. I would like to get her able to
access port 8000 but block anyone else
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1739[12:35:17] <unborn> so basically remote srv we would say
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1740[12:35:21] <jmd> Then default deny, and allow just her IP.
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1741[12:35:31] <jmd> (assuming its a static IP)
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1745[12:36:05] <unborn> jmd: yeah its static.. im looking for
iptables solution.. I know htaccess but its not applicable
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1747[12:36:30] <jmd> iptables sounds like the right solution.
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1749[12:36:44] <jmd> However I don't think #debian is the
right channel.
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1750[12:36:55] <unborn> jmd: if ip match then allow? or how?
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1751[12:36:58] <jmd> Try
linux or networking
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1753[12:37:11] <unborn> jmd: srv runs debian heh
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1754[12:37:23] <unborn> im only using debian - everywhere
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1755[12:37:32] <jmd> But this isn't a debian specific
question.
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1765[12:41:57] <unborn> okay
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1766[12:41:59] <unborn> thanks
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1779[12:47:31] <McD> gingitsune: What's up ?
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1796[12:56:04] <NetworkFreak> send my love to your new lover
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1797[12:56:08] <NetworkFreak> treat her better
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1798[12:56:10] <NetworkFreak> we've got to let go of all our
ghosts
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1799[12:56:13] <NetworkFreak> we both know we ain't kids no
more
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1800[12:56:17] <NetworkFreak> send my love to your new lover
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1801[12:56:21] <NetworkFreak> treat her better
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1802[12:56:22] <NetworkFreak> we've got to let go of all our
ghosts
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1803[12:56:25] <NetworkFreak> we both know we ain't kids no
more
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1824[13:05:09] <sondermann> Hello
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1829[13:06:20] <NetworkFreak> This was all you, none of it me
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1830[13:06:24] <NetworkFreak> You put your hands on, on my body
and told me
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1832[13:06:27] <NetworkFreak> You told me you were ready
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1833[13:06:32] <NetworkFreak> For the big one, for the big jump
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1834[13:06:35] <NetworkFreak> I'd be your last love
everlasting you and me
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1835[13:06:39] <NetworkFreak> That was what you told me
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1836[13:06:45] <NetworkFreak> I'm giving you up
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1837[13:06:48] <NetworkFreak> I've forgiven it all
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1838[13:06:52] <NetworkFreak> You set me free-ee
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1839[13:06:55] <NetworkFreak> Send my love to your new lover
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1840[13:06:58] <NetworkFreak> Treat her better
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1841[13:07:09] <NetworkFreak> we ve gottalet go of all our ghosts
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1842[13:07:31] <NetworkFreak> we both know we ain't kids no
more
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1843[13:07:44] <NetworkFreak> I was too strong you were trembling
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1844[13:07:45] <NetworkFreak> You couldn't handle the hot
heat rising
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1845[13:07:45] <NetworkFreak> Baby I'm still rising
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1846[13:07:46] <NetworkFreak> I was running, you were walking
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1857[13:10:40] <b6s3d> hello
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1860[13:11:48] <b6s3d> i have raspbian jessie lite, and i am
looking for a way to get bluetooth to start and pair with my
keyboard, also looking for a way to start a service called ferm on
boot
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1861[13:13:23] <Iridos> ask #raspian for raspian
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1876[13:20:57] <b6s3d> there are fewer people at #raspbian, and
might limit the chance of getting a answer
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1883[13:27:20] <babilen> dpkg: based on debian
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1884[13:27:21] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
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1910[13:41:56] <Somelauw> If I restore grub, by simply running
sudo 'grub-install' on a live cd, would that not confuse
the apt package manager?
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1915[13:44:48] <blind> Somelauw: 'grub-install'
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1916[13:44:55] <ransur0t> Somelauw: probably not, your method
would do a clean install of grub to mbr
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1917[13:45:00] <saunamees> what are nfs alternatives that are
encrypted,non-blocking and work well with nat/firewall ?
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1919[13:45:19] <ransur0t> hence not affecting / partition, or
package manager ...
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1920[13:45:58] <Somelauw> ok, if grub is not managed by the
package manager, i should be fine
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1922[13:46:10] <Somelauw> some guides do stuff like first
chrooting though
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1927[13:49:09] <Somelauw> sorry
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1930[13:50:21] <ransur0t> chroot while logged into system
you're working on, right? (not using live cd)
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1939[13:56:29] <Somelauw> ransur0t, this is what they do
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1946[14:01:38] <ransur0t> Somelauw: looks like you could try the
boot-repair method (less involved). in unsuccessful, go the full
depth and do the top answer (perhaps w/out chroot)
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1947[14:01:47] <ransur0t> *If
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1956[14:03:52] <ransur0t> the full depth just a bit more
involved, requires mounting file system partitions, gotta get that
right for it all to work!
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1990[14:22:57] <Somelauw> ransur0t, thanks
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2009[14:37:26] <Megamanx1978> Is there anywhere I can get the
amdgpu-pro video driver for debian?
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2053[15:00:55] <ransur0t> Megamanx1978: what card model are you
running? search for amd proprietary, see if your card is supported,
if not, find best available opensource driver
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2054[15:01:55] <Megamanx1978> I am using a radeon rx 480
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2055[15:03:05] <Megamanx1978> What driver do you recommend for a
radeon rx 480?
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2058[15:03:29] <ransur0t> Megamanx1978: try searching here:
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2059[15:04:15] <ransur0t> and if not found, here's a how-to:
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2060[15:04:27] <Iridos> what's the pciid you get for the
card when you do lspci -nn ? looks like [xxxx:xxxx]
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2068[15:07:50] <Minnebo> Anyone using pi-hole?
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2079[15:11:05] <Iridos> "Pi-hole was designed for Raspberry
Pi, but also works on most Debian-based distros."
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2080[15:11:12] <Iridos> Doesn't even say if it works on
Debian
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2083[15:11:47] <Minnebo> Iridos,
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2084[15:11:56] <Minnebo> I have it installed, and it works no
problem
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2085[15:12:20] <Minnebo> I was just wondering why my custom
blacklist is not working, I wanted to block facebook access with it
too :)
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2086[15:12:44] <Minnebo> but i'll just block it at firewall
level
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2094[15:16:18] <Iridos> Minnebo, I kind of dislike sites that
tell me to something like curl -L myurl-with-script-calling-sudo |
bash
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2097[15:17:10] <Minnebo> Iridos, Pi-Hole is really awesome :)
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2100[15:17:44] <Iridos> it also diverts all your dns trough its
server
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2101[15:17:57] <Minnebo> it uses google as DNS..
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2103[15:18:07] <Iridos> oh, that's SO much better
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2104[15:18:15] <Minnebo> well you can actually choose your DNS
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2105[15:18:26] <Minnebo> I have nothing to hide for google
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2106[15:18:36] <Minnebo> or anyone else, I behave on the internet
:)
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2110[15:20:30] <Iridos> well... I've nothing to hide from
google either... not because I didn't want to, but because I
cannot
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2113[15:21:38] <teraflops> everytime I read I have nothing to
hide… I'm not a terrorist… etc etc I get
uberpissed
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2114[15:22:47] <Megamanx1978> All that looks too complex for me I
guess I will just use the open rx480 drivers for now
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2116[15:24:10] <Megamanx1978> Also I am having issues getting the
Singularity second life viewer working
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2118[15:25:17] <hassoon> daniel-s: ask here, nab
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2127[15:26:37] <[1]wasted> Guys do you know if Debian as
equivalent to /etc/sysconfig on red hat?
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2130[15:27:56] <Megamanx1978> When I try to open singularity.sh
it just says "can't open singularity.sh" in the
terminal
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2153[15:38:37] <ChrisH> [1]wasted: there is no real equivalent,
as RH forced most stuff into /etc/sysconfig (and started to get
stuff out again with 7)
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2157[15:39:26] <ChrisH> Megamanx1978: check the file if there are
^M inside, mainly on the fiurst line #!/so/me/shell
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2161[15:41:17] <jhutchins> Megamanx1978: Exactly how are you
trying to "open" it? What is the actual text of the error?
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2166[15:43:45] <[1]wasted> ChrisH, thanks. I found something
"similar" on /etc/default
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2173[15:44:53] <[1]wasted> I am trying to add this configuration
on the ntpdate sercice... SYNC_HWCLOCK=yes
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2176[15:45:22] <jhutchins> [1]wasted: That would be in a systemd
config file.
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2178[15:45:42] <[1]wasted> hmm interesting
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2179[15:45:47] <[1]wasted> Let me try that
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2181[15:46:11] <x-fak> hi
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2182[15:46:31] <x-fak>
replaced-url
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2187[15:47:49] <mcsalty> Hi, I have a strange problem. I use
Linux most of the time, but I have to make backups of Windows
stations. I have a Windows 7 installed on an samsung EVO ssd which I
want to backup, but it seems to backup an older version of the
files. Even worse: when I make a file on the desktop in windows, and
I want to see it via the CLI in linux (eg. debian o
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2188[15:47:49] <mcsalty> r clonezilla), the file is not there.
Could it be that there is some kind of incremental storage going on
on the SSD, or am I overseeing something? Thanks
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2190[15:48:09] <[1]wasted> cd ..
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2191[15:48:12] <[1]wasted> oops
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2198[15:51:30] <ayansh> hi
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2204[15:52:52] <Megamanx1978> The error is sh: 0: Can't open
singularity.sh
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2207[15:53:30] <ayansh> i just installed debian on lenovo
ideacentre 300s desktop, can see bluetooth working however wifi is
not working.
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2208[15:53:43] <ayansh> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel
Corp.
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2209[15:53:52] <Megamanx1978> I open with sh singularity.hs
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2210[15:53:57] <Megamanx1978> I open with sh singularity.sh
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2211[15:54:20] <ayansh> followed steps on
replaced-url
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2215[15:55:46] <ayansh>
replaced-url
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2221[15:58:36] <Iridos> ayansh, have you installed the firmware
for that?
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2223[15:59:08] <ChrisH> x-fak: Thats Ubuntu not Debian.
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2224[16:00:44] <ayansh> Iridos: yes, and just in dmesg i have
314.688846] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux, in-tree:
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2230[16:02:17] <Iridos> so what is the bit where it's
"not working"?
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2232[16:02:50] <x-fak> ChrisH oh yes, sorry i mixed them
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2234[16:03:33] <ayansh> Iridos: just got the module loaded.
looking for iwconfig or similar command to configure wifi
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2235[16:03:37] <Iridos> can root do ... what's it ... iwlist
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2240[16:04:50] <ayansh> Iridos: iwlist is from which package? i
do have iw command, did a apt-cache search iwlist , no output.
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2242[16:05:44] <Iridos> I'm on a desktop... ah, but I got it
right. iwlist is in wireless-tools
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2243[16:06:00] <Iridos> and it's probably iwlist scan (and
it's in /sbin , so only root has it in $PATH)
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2251[16:07:39] <ayansh> Iridos: wireless-tools worked, however
iwconfig results in no wireless exten.
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2253[16:08:18] <jelly> ayansh, does the system have a
usb-connected wifi or a pci-connected wifi?
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2254[16:08:24] <ayansh> cfg80211 405538 1 iwlwifi #
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2255[16:08:42] <ayansh> jelly: it looks like usb connected.
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2257[16:08:55] <jelly> ayansh, show your lspci -nn, please
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2261[16:09:54] <ayansh> jelly:
replaced-url
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2263[16:10:39] <jelly> judd, pciid 8086:3166
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2264[16:10:41] <judd> [8086:3166] is 'Intel Dual Band
Wireless-AC 3165 Plus Bluetooth' from 'Intel
Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic',
'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also
replaced-url
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2265[16:10:50] <jelly> that's your wifi, last line of lspci
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2277[16:12:12] <jelly> ayansh, do you have firmware-iwlwifi
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2280[16:12:54] <ayansh> jelly: yes firmware-iwlwifi is installed.
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2286[16:13:55] <ayansh> should i reboot once? it's a fresh
desktop installation, lenovo ideacentre 300.
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2287[16:14:25] <jelly> ayansh: alright, which kernel are you
running?
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2288[16:14:46] <ayansh> jelly?: 3.16.0-4-amd64
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2289[16:14:59] <jelly> that page says "at least 4.1"
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2291[16:15:19] <jelly> ayansh: if you've just installed
firmware, then yes reboot.
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2293[16:15:34] <ayansh> jelly: ok, rebooting now.
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2297[16:16:21] <jelly> iwlwifi driver is a bit weird in that it
loads even with firmware absent, then it's loaded but the wifi
devices are basically inactive. This is worked around by unloading
the driver manually and loading it again, or by rebooting
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2298[16:16:29] <jelly> eh.
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2300[16:17:25] <Iridos> OR I can jump through a burning hoop?
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2301[16:17:28] <Iridos> :-/
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2438[16:47:24] <ayansh> juicy: no luck, wifi still not working
post reboot.
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2441[16:48:10] <ayansh> iwconfig gives only eth0 and lo with no
wireless extensions
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2447[16:50:36] <jelly> ayansh: good. That probably means the wiki
page is correct about the minimum kernel version.
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2448[16:50:50] <jelly> !jessie-backports
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2449[16:50:51] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9
"Stretch" release but recompiled for use with
"Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the
"jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports
are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A
suitable line for your sources.list is «deb
replaced-url
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2450[16:50:53] <jelly> !bdo kernel
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2451[16:50:53] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
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2457[16:52:08] <miesco> Hi. I thought I disabled root ssh login,
but in /var/log/auth.log, I get "sshd[32332]: Failed password
for root from 113.122.34.0 port 58189 ssh2"
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2458[16:52:12] <jelly> ayansh, ^^ grab a newer kernel from there.
Append " contrib non-free" to that sources.list line for
jessie-backports as well, to get matching wireless firmware from
there as well.
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2459[16:52:34] <jelly> miesco, it doesn't stop people from
trying
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2461[16:53:01] <miesco> jelly: Okay, so even if root login is
disabled, it still lets people try and it logs it?
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2464[16:53:41] <jelly> miesco, I don't remember about the
logging, but you can't stop bots from using "root" as
username
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2467[16:56:13] <miesco> jelly: I have this in sshd_config:
'PermitRootLogin no'. Does this mean root login is
disabled?
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2470[16:57:41] <donoban> yes miesco
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2474[16:58:11] <donoban> and it's fine
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2475[16:58:14] <jelly> miesco, if you restarted the ssh service
or rebooted the system with that in place, and if there are no other
instances of PermitRootLogin, then yes.
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2477[16:59:04] <miesco> If I set challenge and response to no,
and passwordauthenticate to no, in sshd_config, what does
"UsePAM yes" do?
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2501[17:12:38] <gr8> I have a problem that sometimes,
applications block the audio device. For example, if I have VLC
open, I will not get notification sounds from Pidgin until I close
VLC. Or when there is a video in Chromium, and then open VLC, I get
the message, device or resource busy. Any ideas?
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2513[17:15:45] <teraflops> gr8: you do alsa or pulseaudio?
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2516[17:17:46] <gr8> the default. Pulseaudio is running though
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2518[17:18:24] <teraflops> the default is pulseaudio afaik
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2519[17:18:29] <gr8> ok then pulse
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2522[17:19:04] <teraflops> if you do pulseaudio what you say it
is happening has there no sense
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2524[17:19:55] <teraflops> unless it's vlc related (idk)
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2526[17:20:50] <teraflops> …there has no sense^ I meant
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2532[17:21:40] <gr8> interesting, vlc was configured to use ALSA.
Set it to pulseaudio and problem seems to be solved =)
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2535[17:22:44] <gr8> interesting that alsa mixer still works
though
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2536[17:23:01] <gr8> this is really weird
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2538[17:23:20] <teraflops> well, it was vlc related, glad you
solved it
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2539[17:23:33] <mdc> Howdy folks, got a bit of a weird one...
Using Raspbian on a Pi3, with a TP Link WN722N, and the only access
points I'm picking up in monitor mode are those on channel 1,
but in airodump-ng it seems to be cycling through channels
normally... any ideas?
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2541[17:25:13] <teraflops> gr8: alsamixer still works, and you
can set applications to use alsa, like mpd vlc etc. pulse just runs
at top of alsa
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2546[17:26:49] <gr8> teraflops: which does Chromium use?
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2547[17:27:03] <teraflops> pulseaudio
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2549[17:27:19] <teraflops> gr8: you can see it if you open
pavucontrol
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2550[17:27:54] <gr8> pulse, apparently
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2552[17:28:13] <gr8> makes more sense now. VLC was wrongly
configured
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2553[17:28:43] <teraflops> sometimes you may want to tell e.g mpd
to use alsa if youre playing music and your DM blocks the screen
(GDM) so pulseaudio stops working
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2571[17:34:43] <TheSpiderPig> also mattermost doesnt have
ldap....
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2572[17:34:48] <TheSpiderPig> Q_Q;
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2574[17:34:55] <TheSpiderPig> I'm looking for free not
freemium
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2576[17:35:13] <TheSpiderPig> should only pay for services that
cost them time
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2577[17:35:22] <TheSpiderPig> not shit like ldap
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2579[17:35:51] <TheSpiderPig> whoops
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2580[17:35:54] <TheSpiderPig> wrong channel
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2585[17:37:24] <asdf_> hi, I'm quite new to systemd (and
it's surprisingly nice!) - any idea how can I make it run a
script when docked/undocked?
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2586[17:37:32] <asdf_> or at least on lid open/close?
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2591[17:39:29] <michaelcullen> asdf_, apparently there's
something called laptop-mode-tools which provides that sort of
functionality, although it's not systemd
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2593[17:39:55] <michaelcullen>
replaced-url
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2595[17:40:05] <asdf_> thanks guys!
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2598[17:40:22] <michaelcullen> Looks like it uses udev rules to
provide a whole bunch of triggers
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2602[17:40:44] <ayansh> juicy: wifi is resolved, however X server
is gone.
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2604[17:41:09] <ayansh> EE) no screens found(EE)
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2605[17:41:16] <teraflops> asdf_: udev I suppose
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2609[17:42:03] <darsie> I tried to ssb libgcrypt11 but aptitude
build-dep libgcrypt11 says Unable to find the source package for
"libgcrypt11".
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2614[17:42:33] <ayansh> Xserver log =>
replaced-url
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2615[17:43:07] <ayansh> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel
Corporation Device 1912 (rev 06)
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2622[17:44:43] <teraflops> ayansh: how do you start xorg?
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2623[17:45:05] <teraflops> startx? DM?
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2625[17:45:26] <ayansh> teraflops: not manually, it starts
automatically (it was before installing bpo).
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2626[17:45:40] <ayansh> gdm
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2629[17:46:05] <teraflops> ayansh: installing which bpo? I see
there the kernel, anything more?
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2631[17:46:36] <ayansh> 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (uname -r)
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2633[17:46:43] <teraflops> so just the kernel?
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2639[17:47:09] <boreeas_> I'm trying to pass env vars over
ssh (ssh target TEST=hello ...) - If the remote command is
'env', TEST shows up, but if the remote command is
'echo $TEST', nothing is printed
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2641[17:47:13] <boreeas_> can someone explain that to me?
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2642[17:47:24] <wfq> hi all
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2644[17:48:04] <wfq> what would be the reason for my cronjob
being killed. I has been working very well until all of a sudden it
stopped working. Then I when to look at the causes and I get
"Killed" in my /var/mail/user
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2645[17:48:07] <wfq> any idea?
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2646[17:48:27] <ayansh> yes, and also did apt-get -y upgrade
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2647[17:48:47] <teraflops> ayansh: also did you have a DE or WM
installed before and it used to work via GDM?
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2653[17:49:53] <ayansh> teraflops:yes it used to work fine.
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2656[17:50:53] <teraflops> is that an optimus laptop or sis you
changed the GPU?
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2657[17:51:01] <teraflops> did you change*
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2660[17:51:29] <ayansh> teraflops:its a brandnew lenevo desktop,
i had freedos installed,
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2662[17:51:40] <ayansh>
replaced-url
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2663[17:52:01] <teraflops> im not asking that :P
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2665[17:52:36] <ayansh> :p yeah sorry
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2668[17:53:19] <ayansh> teraflops:its stock.
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2672[17:54:48] <teraflops> so it's an optimus laptop, do you
have a xorg.cof in /etc/X11 ? if yes delete it or move it elsewhere,
also if you installed a new kernel but you didnt reboot, reboot the
machine
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2673[17:55:17] <ayansh> yes, i can move xorg.conf and already
rebooted twice.
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2676[17:55:42] <teraflops> do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
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2678[17:57:12] <ayansh> teraflops:no its not.
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2683[17:58:27] <ayansh> Using system config directory
"/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
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2684[17:58:34] <wfq> strange a cronjob is killed by Debian but
tehre is plenty of memory available. I have no clue or whatsoever
about what is going on here
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2689[18:00:19] <teraflops> ayansh: look like it's using
fbdevhw driver :S
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2690[18:00:29] <wfq> shit it is my Mysql server
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2692[18:00:42] <miesco> Is it worth it to have an ftp server if
ssh has sftp?
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2695[18:01:34] <teraflops> ayansh: give try
xserver-xorg-video-intel from backports too
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2699[18:02:39] <teraflops> ayansh: is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
empty?
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2700[18:02:46] <teraflops> give a try*
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2701[18:03:15] <ayansh> teraflops: just rebooted after
reinstallation of xserver-xorg-video-intel
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2702[18:03:43] <teraflops> ayansh: you havent
xserver-xorg-video-intel installed
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2704[18:03:53] <teraflops> I was asking
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2705[18:04:16] <ayansh> xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed.
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2709[18:05:15] <teraflops> it's not picking the driver,
it's useing fbdriver or that's what I infer from your log,
that's why I suggested you to install xserver-xorg-video-intel
from bpo too
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2711[18:05:39] <ayansh> teraflops: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is
not empty
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2714[18:05:46] <teraflops> what's tere?
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2715[18:05:49] <teraflops> there*
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2716[18:06:55] <ayansh> 50-vmmouse.conf, 50-wacom.conf,
50-synaptics.conf, 10-quirks.conf, 10-evdev.conf
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2720[18:07:28] <teraflops> nah that's fine
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2726[18:09:36] <ayansh> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a
usable configuration.
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2731[18:10:50] <ayansh> any other clue?
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2734[18:11:48] <teraflops> ayansh: I already told you , youre
using fb driver (shitty one)
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2736[18:12:15] <teraflops> 8:05:15 teraflops ⎸ it's not
picking the driver, it's useing fbdriver or that's what I
infer from your log, that's why I suggested you to install
xserver-xorg-video-intel from bpo too
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2742[18:13:48] <teraflops> or if your intel gpu is newer enough
give a try to modesetting
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2801[18:36:47] <fredl> so.... when I see inet6 addr:
2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833/64 Scope:Global, how many ip6
addresses are this?
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2806[18:37:07] <darsie> 2^64, IMHO.
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2808[18:37:28] <darsie> hmm
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2811[18:37:55] <darsie> 10.0.0.0/24 is 256 adresses.
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2814[18:38:43] <darsie> So I guess 128-64=64 ... 2^64 addresses.
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2815[18:39:04] <fredl> I don't get this, this seems to be
the default I get through slaac on my interface
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2816[18:39:05] <teraflops> fredl: one
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2817[18:39:13] <fredl> but why /64?
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2819[18:39:23] <fredl> teraflops can you explain?
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2820[18:39:23] <SynrGy> -> ##networking
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2821[18:39:25] <teraflops> tha's the /block
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2823[18:39:34] <teraflops> that's*
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2826[18:40:21] <teraflops> consider it *like* the netmask
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2828[18:41:51] <fredl> So a /48 is larger than a /64 correct? BTW
yes SynrGy this is about debian, don't worry.
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2829[18:41:58] <teraflops> right
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2830[18:42:26] <fredl> I'm struggling with the proper
notation for ip6 in /etc/network/interfaces
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2833[18:42:52] <SynrGy> i see. it sounded like just interest in
trivia.
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2834[18:43:02] <SynrGy> maybe i missed some context though
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2836[18:43:10] <SynrGy> and in any case, don't cross-post
across networks
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2837[18:43:21] <fredl> nope, been struggling with it for days now
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2838[18:43:24] <SynrGy> k
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2839[18:43:44] <fredl> and yes, it's partially caused
through having to learn more about ip6
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2840[18:43:51] <teraflops> fredl: so mind explaining the issue?
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2846[18:44:32] <fredl> teraflops, well I figured out to add a
static ip6 address to my bridge, I need a 'iface br0 inet6
static'
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2848[18:44:43] <miesco> If I have a ESP partition, do I need a
/boot partition?
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2851[18:45:07] <fredl> that works, and I get the proper ip4 and
ip6 addresses on my br0 interface
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2853[18:45:23] <teraflops> miesco: not really, it can be a dir
inside /
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2854[18:45:33] <fredl> What doesn't work however is the
routing and I'm a bit at a loss there how to add a default ip6
gateway
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2856[18:45:53] <fredl> teraflops, my ip6 address is
2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833/64
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2857[18:45:54] <teraflops> fredl: do you have ipv6?
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2858[18:45:59] <fredl> teraflops, yes
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2859[18:46:00] <Sicelo> ip -6 route add default <..>
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2862[18:46:22] <teraflops> fredl: and youre doing stateless or
statefull?
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2863[18:46:28] <fredl> Sicelo, tried that ip -6 route add default
via fd00::c225:6ff:feb0:a296
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2864[18:46:31] <miesco> teraflops: Like is it okay if I just have
a ESP partition, my root partition, and swap partition?
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2866[18:46:50] <fredl> teraflops, I'm afraid I don't
know what's the difference.
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2869[18:47:00] <Dagger> fredl: /64 is just the standard network
size in v6
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2870[18:47:13] <fredl> the fd00::c225:6ff:feb0:a296 I found on my
router
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2871[18:47:16] <teraflops> miesco: just mount your ESP inside
/boot/whatever no matter if /boot is a dir or a partition
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2873[18:47:36] <fredl> when I do that route add default I get
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2874[18:47:39] <fredl> root@omega:~# ip -6 route add default via
fd00::c225:6ff:feb0:a296
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2875[18:47:39] <fredl> RTNETLINK answers: No route to host
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2878[18:48:02] <teraflops> fredl: your computer picks an ipv6
address from your router?
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2879[18:48:17] <miesco> teraflops: Okay. So even though debian
gives me a big red box warning, I am good?
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2880[18:48:25] <fredl> teraflops, nope, I have an 'iface br0
inet6 static'
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2881[18:48:34] <Dagger> fredl: does `rdisc6 br0` return anything?
(it's in the ndisc6 package)
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2882[18:48:42] <teraflops> miesco: idk, what are you doing?
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2883[18:48:58] <miesco> teraflops: "You have selected the
root file system to be stored on an encrypted partition. This
feature rquires a separate /boot parition on which the kernel and
initrd can be stored."
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2884[18:49:16] <teraflops> miesco: ah you started asking by the
end :S
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2885[18:49:27] <teraflops> miesco: no idea sorry
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2887[18:49:50] <fredl> Dagger -
replaced-url
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2890[18:50:35] <fredl> Dagger - should I add 2001:980:942a:1::/64
as default gateway instead?
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2892[18:50:49] <Dagger> fredl: so, you should just be picking up
an address and gateway from SLAAC already
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2895[18:51:16] <fredl> Dagger, I configured an 'iface br0
inet6 static' in /etc/network/interfaces
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2897[18:51:51] <fredl> SLAAC doesn't get configured
immediately I noticed and when I try to bind services to it at boot
time it fails
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2898[18:52:08] <fredl> *ugh* dinnertime here, gotta skip for a
bit
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2899[18:52:16] <fredl> sorry about that :)
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2903[18:52:36] <Dagger> oh, right, I remember you saying that
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2904[18:52:42] <Dagger> well, the router IP is
fe80::c225:6ff:feb0:a296
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2907[18:53:27] <Dagger> but you should be able to bind to the IP
you configured without having a default route yet, and the route
should get set up pretty quickly
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2911[18:55:32] <miesco> Oh no. I set up my root as encrypted but
now I need 100MB for a /boot partition...
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2915[18:58:16] <Dagger> grub supports encrypted disks, you may
just be able to use / for it (but don't ask me how to do it)
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2916[18:58:27] <Dagger> or stick a USB drive in. but that's
a bit terrible
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2919[18:59:13] <teraflops> I guess the installer has its
limitations
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2922[19:00:28] <miesco> Dagger: So I can get grub to read /boot
without creating a new /boot partition?
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2928[19:01:38] <Dagger> well, you don't *need* a separate
/boot partition for grub, and I've done en encrypted /boot
partition before
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2929[19:01:46] <Dagger> putting those together suggests it should
be possible
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2938[19:04:51] <miesco> Dagger: Okay. In the installer, I
can't find a /etc/default/grub. This is because... I
haven't installed my os yet?
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2939[19:05:29] <miesco> Dagger: Do I continue with install with
an encrypted /boot? ... Maybe I should put the boot on my usb drive?
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2940[19:05:38] <miesco> Or I guess I could use a livecd?
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2943[19:05:53] <miesco> a livecd can mount an encrypted
filesystem, right?
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2947[19:06:14] <miesco> If I continue, I will have no way of
booting on its own.
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2948[19:06:26] <Dagger> oh... are you still in the installer? why
not just delete the encrypted partition and recreate it then?
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2950[19:07:05] <miesco> Dagger: It wont let me modify an
encrypted volume
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2952[19:07:26] <teraflops> fredl: since you do slaac why not just
iface br0 inet auto & bridge_ports ethx… in /e/n/i ?
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2953[19:07:31] <hoi> hi, when I dock my laptop the dock.0 emits
event (seen with udevadm) with "EVENT=dock" - how can I
match this with a rule? when I try EVENT=="dock" it fails
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2954[19:07:37] <Dagger> delete and recreate it?
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2956[19:07:54] <hoi> SUBSYSTEM=="platform",
ACTION=="change", EVENT=="dock",
RUN+="/usr/local/bin/dock.sh docked" <--- fails
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2959[19:08:11] <hoi> it works without event, but I can't
detect docking/undocking just change
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2960[19:08:17] <Dagger> you *might* have to restart the whole
installer. I've managed to get the partition editor
sufficiently confused to need to do that before
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2962[19:08:58] <miesco> Dagger: Like I think it already wrote the
partitions
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2964[19:09:10] <teraflops> miesco: if you already are in the
installer, why dont you just do it correctly?
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2965[19:09:31] <miesco> teraflops: It wont let me delete the
partition
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2966[19:10:18] <teraflops> why?
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2967[19:10:54] <Dagger> miesco: try restarting the installer
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2968[19:11:25] <miesco> be back in 20 min
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2977[19:15:52] <ayansh> Xserver run's fine when i am booting
into non bpo (old kernel)
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2978[19:16:57] <ayansh> how do i get the X server to work with
4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
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2982[19:17:52] <mtn> ayansh: is there a video driver in
backports, too?
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2988[19:20:01] <ayansh> mtn: yes,
replaced-url
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2991[19:20:33] <ayansh> i did a apt-get update && apt-get
-y upgrade into bpo.
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2994[19:21:05] <mtn> ayansh: things from bpo are only installed
manually, so install the video driver you need from backports
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2997[19:22:08] <teraflops> ayansh: like I told you 3 hours ago,
or do not use any xorg video intel at all if your gpu is relatively
new
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2998[19:22:20] <teraflops> aka modesetting
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3001[19:23:12] <teraflops> also I dont get the apt-get -y upgrade
into bpo meaning
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3003[19:23:36] <mtn> not what he thinks it means, I bet :P
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3004[19:23:40] <teraflops> yeah
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3027[19:32:17] <ayansh> juicy/teraflops/mtn #debian, thanks for
the support!, yes mtn i manually installed a driver from bpo site.
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3028[19:32:27] <mtn> ayansh: ok, good. yw
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3083[19:52:03] <haole> anyone knows why there isn't a
package for chef-server? licensing issues? couldn't find
anything so far about this
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3089[19:53:51] <w3gi> hallo, i have a problem with my server
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3092[19:54:14] <up2late> ask your question
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3097[19:54:49] <w3gi> before i get a nginx error 504 and after
restart i have a timeout (server dont respond)
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3101[19:56:29] <fryguy> sounds like you might be better off
asking that question in #nginx
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3181[20:30:59] <miesco> teraflops: Okay I am back
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3182[20:31:17] <tom99> ok i haev stupid question
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3183[20:31:20] <tom99> in that case
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3184[20:31:27] <miesco> teraflops: It wont let me delete the
partition because its encrypted
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3190[20:33:42] <unborn> okay this question is related to debian..
how to make me notified about updates - jessie - gnome.. it faills..
i have to always do apt-get update and then upgrade - any thoughts ?
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3196[20:34:38] <unborn> ...im not debian novice ;)
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3207[20:38:31] <miesco> Okay I restarted the installation...
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3212[20:41:18] <tom99> man the debian installer does not let you
just click continue over and over
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3213[20:41:28] <tom99> i had to go up and click "Yes"
to format the system
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3217[20:43:46] <miesco> How big should /boot be?
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3218[20:44:08] <vook> 512M or so miesco
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3220[20:45:21] <vook> Any ideas why debian netinst would be
reporting "No kernel modules were found. This is probably due
to a mismatch between the kernel used..." I've downloaded
another from a different mirror and found no difference.
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3222[20:45:51] <vook> Would missing raid firmware cause that?
Seems like it shouldn't report that "no modules were
found" - just no HD controller.
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3224[20:46:48] <unborn> vook: install done via unetbootin?
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3225[20:46:57] <vook> no, CD
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3226[20:47:18] <unborn> ah i see.. okay was that non-free dvd/cd?
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3227[20:47:30] <vook> no, just straight netinst.
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3228[20:47:45] <unborn> well then install drivers
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3229[20:48:01] <unborn> or perhaps install netinst - non free..
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3232[20:48:16] <vook> this is reported during the installer - no
installation has taken place.
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3233[20:48:21] <vook> I'll try the non-free netinst
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3234[20:48:31] <miesco> Is /boot ext4?
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3235[20:48:41] * greycat waits for the part where he says it
wasn't a *jessie* netinst
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3237[20:48:45] <unborn> miesco: i guess so..
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3239[20:48:51] <vook> greycat: it's jessie, amd64
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3240[20:49:11] <miesco> Is /boot bootable?
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3242[20:49:23] <unborn> when you install classic way - it ask you
where to place its own stuff.. I usually say directly to hdd which
is ext4
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3245[20:50:08] <greycat> miesco: bootableness of a partition is
completely irrelevant in modern systems
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3247[20:50:26] <miesco> greycat: So it doesn't matter if
bootable flag is on or off?
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3248[20:51:53] <greycat> Far as I know, that is correct.
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3251[20:52:25] <tom99> i'm installing debian right now and
it's pretty easy
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3253[20:52:43] <tom99> no raid hardware though
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3254[20:52:53] <tom99> oh crap
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3255[20:52:59] <tom99> now i have to actually make decision on
what to install
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3256[20:53:01] <tom99> gnome or kde?
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3257[20:53:05] <tom99> ssh server??!
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3259[20:53:22] <vook> for a slim installation, just choose ssh
and install everything else later.
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3260[20:53:25] <tom99> then something called MATE and Cinnamon
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3262[20:53:42] <tom99> idk what those are
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3264[20:53:50] <tom99> even no desktop? ah that's hardcore!
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3265[20:53:57] <tom99> but i want to develop graphical openl
stuff
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3268[20:54:27] <tom99> so i'll click... GNOME
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3269[20:54:45] <tom99> because i'm afraid of change
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3272[20:56:03] <njumdl2014> I have subscribed some debian mailing
list before. But I do not remember now. How could I get a list about
debian mailing list I subscribed?
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3274[20:57:03] <teraflops> you get the emails, don't you?
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3276[20:58:04] <njumdl2014> yes, from debian-devel,
debian-user,debian-glibc ... I want to unsubscribe some of them.
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3277[20:58:46] <rlange> tom99: "gnome desktop" and
"debian desktop" are the same thing. kde is well, kde.
cinnamon is gnome3 but the ui is different, for people who hate the
gnome ui. mate pretends that gnome3 never happened and they
continued developing the gnome2 code base
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3279[20:59:38] <rlange> that's the super-over-simplified
version
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3280[20:59:43] <teraflops> njumdl2014:
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3287[21:02:36] <miesco> What is the disadvantage of not having
/boot encrypted?
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3290[21:03:17] <Pwnna> miesco: that double negative tho
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3291[21:03:18] <vook> I can't think of any reason to encrypt
boot on a standard system
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3292[21:03:24] <rlange> miesco: anyone who gets your hard drive
could alter your kernel and you would be none the wiser
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3294[21:03:45] <Pwnna> you really need secure boot if you want to
verify your kernel
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3296[21:04:18] <rattking> a unencrypted /boot is an attack
surface, the ramdisk is a place to put a keylogger
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3297[21:04:21] <rlange> yeah, encrypting the whole stack really
only works if you have a trusted path from initialization up
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3298[21:04:35] <rlange> which arguably no one has
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3299[21:04:48] <Pwnna> aren't there some platforms where you
can load your own keys?
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3300[21:04:50] <Pwnna> thinkpads?
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3301[21:04:54] <Pwnna> for secure boot that
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3302[21:05:11] <Pwnna> but the thing about that is any tainted
kernel module means that you can no longer boot.
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3303[21:05:15] <LunaLovegood> Put a password on your bios setup,
and a padlock on the physical case.
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3304[21:05:31] <rlange> yes, some platforms do allow you to do
that -- if you trust the firmware...
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3305[21:05:35] <miesco> LunaLovegood: That will fix it?
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3306[21:05:36] <Pwnna> ...
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3307[21:05:45] <Pwnna> trust is a hard topic
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3308[21:06:02] <miesco> I don't care if I lose my data; I
just dont want others getting it
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3309[21:06:14] <LunaLovegood> miesco: it's better than
wasting time securing the kernel/initrd/whatever
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3310[21:06:18] <Pwnna> /boot is arguably not a way to encrypt
tho. just use luks
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3311[21:06:25] <Pwnna> if you care, move your /boot into a usb
drive
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3312[21:06:36] <Pwnna> and your luks header
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3313[21:06:55] <Pwnna> i've investigated doing this and
realize it's probably more hassle than necessary.
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3314[21:06:59] <LunaLovegood> why not use PXE boot?
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3316[21:07:03] <Pwnna> works too
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3317[21:07:07] <Pwnna> but maybe it's a laptop
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3320[21:07:25] <Pwnna> and you're somewhere that
doesn't have network access
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3321[21:07:31] <Pwnna> you can do some weird /boot overlay magic
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3322[21:07:37] <LunaLovegood> on a laptop, you'll end up
breaking the usb drive unless you havce recessed ports
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3323[21:07:37] <miesco> LunaLovegood: Set a bios password? What
if they take my harddrive out and put it in a new computer?
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3324[21:07:51] <Pwnna> miesco: as i said, just use LUKS
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3325[21:07:57] <rattking> I heard recently that grub2 can boot
luks encrypted partitions directly now.. but I havent tried it yet
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3326[21:07:57] <Pwnna> that encrypts everythign except boot
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3327[21:08:06] <miesco> Pwnna: I am using luks, but I can't
encrypt /boot with it
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3328[21:08:13] <Pwnna> miesco: why do you need /boot encrypted/
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3329[21:08:17] <Pwnna> there's no data in it
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3331[21:08:26] <miesco> Pwnna: Because you guys just told me a
million reasons
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3333[21:08:39] <Pwnna> well there's the linux kernel, but as
we have established, you can't really secure that unless you
have a trusted path from hardware and up.
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3334[21:08:58] <miesco> 03:03pm rlange | miesco: anyone who gets
your hard drive could alter your kernel and you would be none the
wiser
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3335[21:09:00] <Pwnna> you can try, but i don't know of a
consumer/business computer that allows you to set everything you
want.
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3337[21:09:21] <Pwnna> miesco: them altering your kernel
doesn't mean they can access your data directly
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3338[21:09:28] <Pwnna> unless they insert a keylogger, as
previously stated
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3340[21:09:42] <Pwnna> just don't leave your laptop
unattended, really. otherwise use physical security measures
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3343[21:10:02] <Pwnna> or, use a boot usb as i suggested.. but
then you still have to trust that your firmware (BIOS/UEFI) is not
bugged.
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3346[21:10:40] <Pwnna> you have to know what you're
protecting against before you can decide how much security you want.
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3347[21:10:41] <vook> miesco: do people care enough about your
data to swap out the kernel and insert a key-logger?
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3348[21:10:47] <Pwnna> ^
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3350[21:11:12] <unborn> wtf?
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3351[21:11:16] <unborn> ^
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3353[21:11:26] <Pwnna> if you're /that/ paranoid. i'd
suggest /boot off usb, unencrypted. just carry it around your pocket
and make sure no one else touch it
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3354[21:12:04] <Pwnna> but then again, UEFI exploits are real and
can also keylog.. at that level of paranoia you should ask what RMS
runs and do that.
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3355[21:12:10] <Pwnna> maybe libreboot with old thinkpads :P
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3356[21:12:25] <rainfyre> he uses a chinese computer
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3357[21:12:26] <miesco> Pwnna: You can encrypt /boot
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3358[21:12:32] <rlange> yeah, you need to define who you are
really protecting yourself against
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3359[21:12:32] <rainfyre> with an open source bios
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3360[21:12:36] <rainfyre> ^
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3361[21:12:43] <miesco> rlange: nsa
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3362[21:12:45] <rlange> if it's a state-level actor, then
this probably applies too:
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3363[21:12:49] <Pwnna> miesco: yeah but that doesn't really
help you against someone who wants to swap your /boot with their
/boot
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3364[21:13:08] <rainfyre> what possibly needs to be encrypted in
/boot?
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3365[21:13:18] <miesco> Pwnna: How would their /boot know where
all my partitions are?
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3366[21:13:38] <Pwnna> miesco: if you use luks there should be a
pretty well defined signature.
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3367[21:13:40] <vook> miesco: boot doesn't really know that
much about partitions, thats fstab
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3368[21:13:46] <Pwnna> but then again i'm not familiar with
that.
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3369[21:13:48] <vook> it knows about root and boot
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3370[21:13:55] <Pwnna> either way there's a predefined
location where you boot from iirc
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3371[21:14:02] <unborn> miesco: its partition right? common sense
would tell them where it is..
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3372[21:14:14] <Pwnna> so you just swap that and then an
adversary can swap out your encrypted /boot
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3373[21:14:45] <miesco> Great so now I have to worry about waking
up to a key logger every morning
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3375[21:14:57] <rattking>
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3376[21:15:10] <unborn> miesco: not really.. if you dont run
windows 8 or 10 you can sleep tight
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3377[21:15:13] <Pwnna> miesco: if you want to be that paranoid..
there are a lot of attack vectors everywhere.
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3378[21:15:33] <miesco> I guess I could have camera survelliance
in my room when I sleep, but then they could mess with the
survelliance videos...
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3380[21:15:40] <unborn> if you paranoid as mentioned use usb and
boot every time live system miesco
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3381[21:15:45] <Pwnna> miesco: i'm up at night worrying
about fx zero days swiping my keys because there's no app-level
access control with desktop linux.
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3382[21:15:56] <Pwnna> miesco: or maybe someone can bug my HDD
/SSD firmware
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3383[21:16:00] <croddy> even after you hire the armed guards, you
have to hire a second group of armed guards to guard the other
guards.
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3386[21:16:21] <rlange> miesco: sorry, but if you really, truly
want to (and genuinely have need to) remain safe from the frickin
NSA, then saying so in an open forum is a really good way to draw
their attention
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3388[21:16:30] <croddy> and then there's thompson's
compiler vulnerability.
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3390[21:16:43] <rlange> when protecting yourself from something
like the NSA, the only real strategy is to STAY OFF THEIR RADAR
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3391[21:16:54] <vook> miesco: are you Hillary Clinton? I've
got a feeling...
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3393[21:17:15] <Pwnna> lol
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3395[21:17:23] <Pwnna> just don't use computers
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3396[21:17:25] <Pwnna> find a cave
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3397[21:17:28] <Pwnna> disappear in it
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3399[21:17:38] <miesco> Pwnna: Thats not a bad idea
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3400[21:17:50] <Pwnna> ensure that when you leave for the cave
you don't get caught by all the surveillance cameras
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3401[21:17:52] <unborn> vook lol the old woman which cannot do
anything just empty speeches? I think he is more intelligent than
her :D
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3402[21:17:56] <erm3nda> but take a laptop with you :V and a
dinaymo and solar power
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3404[21:18:05] <Pwnna> erm3nda: ruined my security, lol
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3405[21:18:06] <Iridos> tortib, share mountpoint cifs
user,credentials=/home/blubb/.smbcredentials,user=blubb
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3407[21:18:35] <erm3nda> even if i love computers i think on
hammers when use them
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3408[21:18:40] <tortib> Iridos, do i user specify username=user
password=password on seprate lines in .smbcredentials?
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3409[21:19:18] <miesco> Wait a sec, if someone installed a
keylogger, how would they get the key strokes?
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3410[21:19:19] <erm3nda> maybe you can use a old fashioned papyro
turing machine, with no wifi dongle
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3411[21:19:31] <miesco> And the keylogger would be a kernel
module, right?
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3412[21:19:39] <Iridos> tortib, yes
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3413[21:19:44] <unborn> miesco: really - google it..
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3414[21:19:52] <Pwnna> miesco: doesn't really matter
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3415[21:20:12] <Pwnna> also the screen that allows you to enter
your password
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3416[21:20:15] <Pwnna> it's a userspace program
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3417[21:20:28] <Pwnna> just swap that program with something that
logs your passphrase and uplaod it
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3418[21:20:44] <Pwnna> it honestly doesn't matter. once they
can write to your storage, all bets are off.
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3420[21:21:46] <miesco> Pwnna: They can't write to my
storage because its encrypted
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3421[21:22:20] <Pwnna> miesco: they can
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3423[21:22:24] <Pwnna> just overwrite your partition
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3424[21:22:27] <Pwnna> how would you know
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3425[21:22:42] <miesco> Pwnna: How would I know that all my data
is gone?
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3426[21:22:52] <Pwnna> as i said, booting starts from a standard
location
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3427[21:23:25] <miesco> Pwnna: Oh, so i'll boot into a new
system and realize it after I already entered my password?
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3428[21:23:36] <Pwnna> precisely
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3430[21:23:40] <Pwnna> they just need to trick you long enough
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3431[21:23:41] <miesco> Pwnna: Then still... they don't have
access to my computer anymore
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3432[21:23:46] <Pwnna> in fact, they can probably make a pass
through
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3433[21:24:01] <Pwnna> like basically boot into something else,
and that thing then boots into your standard system
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3435[21:24:26] <miesco> Pwnna: Then wouldn't I have to type
my password twice?
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3436[21:24:50] <Pwnna> miesco: they can write code to type your
pw for you
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3438[21:25:21] <Pwnna> basically. physical access = all bets are
off. this is why you see people operating TOR exit nodes throw out
their machien after it got raided by the police
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3440[21:25:48] <croddy> i think it kind of comes down to the
question "how many full-time employees am i going to make them
dedicate, and for how long, to breaking into my system?"
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3441[21:25:59] <miesco> Pwnna: How can I install a remote
destruct?
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3442[21:26:02] <unborn> miesco: do you do something very bad out
there?
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3443[21:26:05] <miesco> Pwnna: So it will blow up
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3444[21:26:33] <miesco> Pwnna: Or perhaps, if I don't enter
a password every 3 hours, it will blow up
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3445[21:26:52] <croddy> miesco if you're going to rig
explosives to the system definitely make sure you have the necessary
training and have obtained the relevant licenses
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3446[21:26:55] <Pwnna> miesco: you can write the code :)
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3447[21:27:08] <miesco> But I guess there is still the chance of
them taking out my harddrive
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3448[21:27:14] <Pwnna> unborn: i think it is unfair to assume
people who desire security = bad.
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