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22 [00:22:53] <Sveta> what package allows users to automatically
see external usb drives mounted under /media/<username>/ ?
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30 [00:28:44] <Sveta>
replaced-url
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50 [00:47:27] <galex-713> usb like ssd are flash memory right?
why aren’t usb drives as fast as ssd?
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52 [00:50:32] <Tom-_> well USB isn't as fast as SATA
53 [00:50:38] <Tom-_> maybe that's what you mean
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156 [02:12:07] <JustSayin> STOP BEING A PROSTITUTE YOU ASSHOLE
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161 [02:14:04] <Akuw> hi, i am using debian 5.0 and virtualbox,
but configure as Bridge, but from my host can't see it
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163 [02:14:26] <Akuw> Host: Debian 9, Guest: debian5
164 [02:14:36] <abrotman> 5?
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166 [02:15:09] <Akuw> yes
167 [02:15:25] <Akuw> i installed to test one app using old
version of php
168 [02:15:51] <Akuw> my computer has wifi
169 [02:16:09] <mrxrobot> hello guys
170 [02:16:24] <mrxrobot> Does anyone here know how to install
the "toxic"?
171 [02:16:26] <Akuw> i selected wlp3sO
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173 [02:16:47] <Akuw> and enp9sO
174 [02:17:00] <Akuw> none works, i test before using wired
network and work fine
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179 [02:18:13] <Akuw> in my guest i see eth0
180 [02:18:24] <abrotman> Akuw: Did you try rebooting the 5 host,
and did you check dmesg to see if it was renamed?
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183 [02:18:42] <Akuw> let me see
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186 [02:22:13] <Akuw> NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex
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188 [02:22:26] <Akuw> but when use ifconfig no ip is there
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201 [02:30:19] <Akuw> no renamed
202 [02:30:23] <Akuw> it is eth0
203 [02:30:31] <yesno> mrxrobot you can clone its git repository
and build it
204 [02:31:20] <yesno> assuming you mean the messaging client
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207 [02:32:12] <mrxrobot> yesno: yes
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209 [02:32:33] <mrxrobot> toxic is a messaging client
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211 [02:33:14] <yesno> there are instructions on their github
repo
212 [02:33:18] <yesno>
replaced-url
213 [02:33:29] <mrxrobot> thank you
214 [02:33:55] <yesno> np
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275 [03:29:25] <styks1987> I’ve always relied on fail2ban
for basic filtering. Is this still a somewhat good tool nowadays or
has something supersceeded it?
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280 [03:34:44] <somiaj> styks1987: it is still a good tool,
though my understanding it is mostly setup for ssh. You may have to
add some confgiurations if you have other types of logins (such as a
webapp) you want it to work with, but it is scriptable and possible
to ban if the webapp logs the login attempts.
281 [03:35:07] <somiaj> I know some who like to have both
fail2ban and denyhost as two tools wantchign things, but fail2ban is
a good tool
282 [03:35:24] <styks1987> somiaj: thanks!
283 [03:36:04] <somiaj> hmm, found an intersting iptables method,
this will drop hosts who try to connect to often.
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285 [03:36:22] <somiaj>
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287 [03:37:01] <somiaj> ,i sshguard
288 [03:37:02] <judd> Package sshguard (net, optional) in
stretch/amd64: Protects from brute force attacks against ssh.
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289 [03:37:08] <somiaj> seems that is a newer project you could
look into
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292 [03:38:13] <styks1987> Thanks, I’ll look into that
293 [03:38:46] <somiaj> anyways, fail2ban looks like the most
versitle tool to me, and it is very configurable, and as I said you
can use it on any service that logs login attempts and teach it how
to parse the logs.
294 [03:39:05] <michael2> somiaj: do you mean clients who try to
open too many connections? I think that is usually something
associcated with DOS attacks - which I think apache has security
plugins for
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296 [03:40:16] <somiaj> michael2: It was more a rate limit in
iptables, the example would make it so any ip that requests more
than 10 connections a minute is blocked. It is an iptables only
solution, but I still think fail2ban is better
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298 [03:40:36] <somiaj> but yea dos attacks, could also be brute
force password login attacks
299 [03:41:36] <michael2> makes sense - lots of SYN packets could
be a precursor to either attack. yeah, fail2ban also has the ability
to drop packets of hosts who make http requests which keep
404'ing
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403 [05:23:50] <awal1> just right mouse clic and copy the link,
no selection of the link needed ^
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406 [05:24:37] <awal1> a matter of a possible menor regression vs
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444 [06:00:03] <kirk781> My bluetooth headphones stutter on PC
when I am using wi-fi[since they presumably use the same frequency];
however the same problem does not occur when I pair it to my mobile
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452 [06:06:01] <catz> If i open a local .html file (with
content), i get a "File not found" page in firefox. When i
try to open/upload a file i have to restart so it shows up and
sometimes the same if i download/export stuff.
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456 [06:07:36] <catz> the firefox window says (sandboxed or root)
and the file browser doesn't so i guess it has to do something
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461 [06:10:11] <allizom> catz: your description is not clear to
me
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465 [06:12:36] <catz> allizom: i want to create a website and
test it, but whenever i open the local index.html firefox shows me a
file not found page
466 [06:13:29] <allizom> what do you mean with "sandboxed or
root"?
467 [06:13:58] <catz> allizom: and whenever i want to upload a
file via a form or something like that i have to make sure i restart
firefox so the "new" file shows up in the list as well
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469 [06:15:01] <catz> allizom: on top of that HexChat window for
example it says "HexChat (sandboxed or root), same for firefox
and some other programs
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472 [06:15:51] <allizom> are you using some software which
sandboxes other programs?
473 [06:16:54] <catz> allizom: i just installed parrot 2 days ago
and i think they preinstalled something like that
474 [06:17:22] <allizom> are you using debian or a derivative?
the latter ones are not supported here
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476 [06:18:17] <catz> allizom: ok thanks, have to try my luck in
their forums then
477 [06:18:31] <allizom> yep, good luck :)
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480 [06:23:41] <silverballz> ,kernels
481 [06:23:42] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.16.0-2-686
(4.16.12-1); buster: 4.16.0-2-686 (4.16.12-1); stretch-backports:
4.16.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.16.12-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae
(4.9.88-1+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae
(4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-6-686-pae
(3.16.56-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
482 [06:23:43] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
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508 [06:45:13] <melissa666> what would be equivalent of this
command using ip instead of ifconfig? --> `ifconfig wlan0:avahi
netmask 255.255.255.255`
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550 [07:10:48] <Ouroboros> i noticed that by default there is no
route for ff00::/8 (there was in the installer), does this prevent
ndp and so on from working, or is this route assumed?
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758 [09:38:45] <mi11k1> I need some help please, I am confused
about a lot of things actually. But I need to get this file system
working, I'm currently running (3) Dell Poweredge 510 and a HP
580, As per my boss Proxmox is running on an SSD on each one of
those servers , and then there's an array of hard drives that
are controlled by hardware and I have them under a raid 6 on each
system.
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760 [09:40:07] <mi11k1> They're set up as a cluster with
Ceph, but im mixed up how to make it a shared filesystem with
failover by fencing.
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776 [09:50:14] <mkesper_> mi11k1: Maybe there's a better
channel for that? Ceph is used with CloudStack a lot, afaik.
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778 [09:51:09] <mi11k1> mkesper_, i was just wondering because
proxmox is debian
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780 [09:51:44] <annadane> !proxmox
781 [09:51:45] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is
a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a
virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not
supported in #debian. There's an unofficial
proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see
##replaced-url
782 [09:51:51] <annadane> perhaps ask there
783 [09:52:24] <mi11k1> im there as well
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785 [09:53:20] <mi11k1> annadane, you are local to me
786 [09:53:31] <mi11k1> im in st Cath
787 [09:54:01] <melissa666> what would be equivalent of this
command using ip instead of ifconfig? --> `ifconfig wlan0:avahi
netmask 255.255.255.255`
788 [09:54:32] <mi11k1> thats not an ifconfig command i dont
think
789 [09:54:39] <mi11k1> o nm
790 [09:54:46] <mi11k1> just install ifconfig
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794 [09:56:38] <melissa666> mi11k1, you must have trouble
reading. I said "using ip instead of ifconfig"
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797 [09:57:05] <melissa666> so installing ifconfig won't
help me, will it?
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836 [10:16:28] <jolt> melissa666: probably ip addr add avahi/24
dev wlan0
837 [10:16:55] <jolt> but I haven't seen avahi as an ip
before, but that is how you add an IP with netmask with ip
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841 [10:20:50] <melissa666> jolt, thanks - I will try that
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845 [10:22:48] <melissa666> jolt --> Error: inet prefix is
expected rather than "avahi/24"
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847 [10:23:36] <jolt> melissa666: I think it couldn't parse
avahi there
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869 [10:28:58] <jelly> melissa666: what is that command supposed
to do anyway?
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871 [10:29:23] <jelly> it looks like it just sets a /32 netmask
on an interface with a weird name
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876 [10:30:58] <melissa666> jelly, here it is in context:
replaced-url
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878 [10:31:13] <melissa666> the author says in another page
"Note that the netmask is 255.255.255.255 so that IP addresses
are not looked up on the local network with ARP requests. Note,
however, that this will make the interface unreachable with a
regular non-babel computer, and will break completely non-babel
setups."
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880 [10:31:43] * annadane still hasn't yet learn how to
arbitrarily put # in links such that it scrolls down correctly (that
page doesn't count as there are links)
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882 [10:31:51] <annadane> s/learn/learned
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886 [10:33:30] <annadane> (why is my typing getting worse daily?)
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888 [10:34:31] <melissa666> annadane, if you really care, you can
look at HTML source and find the name of the anchor and tack it on
to end of URL. in this case, the correct one would have been <a
href="#index2h2">Debian</a>
889 [10:34:44] <annadane> oh neat, thanks
890 [10:34:48] <melissa666> ... but yeah, when I am not being
lazy, I usually just click the links in TOC :)
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906 [10:47:29] <jolt> Oh, and I wrote /24 instead of /32 as well,
however, I guess it doesn't matter due to the avahi part not
being recognised
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915 [10:55:48] <jelly> autoipd sets up the address, they just
want to change the netmask
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990 [11:52:07] <akd> !work
991 [11:52:07] <dpkg> [work] a great place to play network games
like Quake against your friends..... an improper way of saying
funzionirt! Work at what? Do the dishes? Clean your room? , or see
<play> =-)
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1049 [12:35:39] <hexnewbie> So I'm facing this problem with
Debian Stretch: There's no working character map (GNOME's
can't display characters matching a filter, KDE's crashes
when you do anything, debian issue #869116). I work arounded
KCharSelect's crashing by using dpkg-statoverride forcing
/usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher to have a-x permissions,
so it never starts. Now GNOME programs start horribly slowly,
because they
1050 [12:35:41] <judd> Bug
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1051 [12:35:41] <hexnewbie> wait for at-spi for 10 seconds.
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1055 [12:36:45] <hexnewbie> I workarounded the slow start of GNOME
programs by NO_AT_BRIDGE=1, but now some programs (notably GNOME
Terminal) never start. And I need GNOME terminal, because KDE's
has severe destructive bugs.
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1057 [12:40:21] <hexnewbie> I am two months into writing my own
character map software to fix the issue, but in the meantime is
there way to nuke accessibility form orbit, without breaking GNOME?
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1200 [14:25:28] <Vonor> o/
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1225 [14:41:41] <medfly> on a scale of 1 to 10, if I have a
/etc/debian_version, can I assume /bin/bash exists?
1226 [14:42:17] <medfly> I'm just gonna check, easier.
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1228 [14:42:29] <bites> uh, 9
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1231 [14:42:43] <medfly> :D
1232 [14:43:27] <abrotman> medfly: there's /bin/sh which
should point at a reasonable shell, bash or dash usually
1233 [14:44:21] <jelly> given bash is an Essential package, 9
seems reasonable
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1240 [14:45:52] <jelly> ,popcon bash
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1242 [14:45:53] <judd> Popcon data for bash: inst: 199096, vote:
165238, old: 19619, recent: 14150, nofiles: 89
1243 [14:46:00] <jelly> ,popcon base-files
1244 [14:46:01] <judd> Popcon data for base-files: inst: 199135,
vote: 165262, old: 19597, recent: 14158, nofiles: 118
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1247 [14:46:28] <ksk> what is popcorn jelly?
1248 [14:46:46] <jelly> voluntary inventory service
1249 [14:46:49] <jelly> !popcon
1250 [14:46:49] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is
the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on
the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest
package to participate. See the results at
replaced-url
1251 [14:46:50] <ksk> this package-summary debian installs ask
about on install? ah okay
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1253 [14:47:23] <medfly> it's because this command acts
differently in dash
1254 [14:47:25] <medfly> dash -c 'echo
"\\100"'
1255 [14:48:09] <jelly> and what is it supposed to do?
1256 [14:48:34] <medfly> good question, but it's the test for
'echo behaves as expected' that people have chosen for
this
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1258 [14:48:48] <FinalX> When using Microsoft packages on
Debian/Ubuntu, it's at least more likely to have /bin/bash than
/bin/sh ... :D
1259 [14:48:53] <medfly> :D
1260 [14:48:59] <FinalX> (because they forcibly remove /bin/sh to
symlink it to /bin/bash..)
1261 [14:49:15] <jelly> there's no such thing as
Debian/Ubuntu
1262 [14:49:23] <medfly> read / as "or"
1263 [14:49:26] <FinalX> ^
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1266 [14:50:00] <jelly> I'm reading it as "people
don't realize two different OS vendors make products that
behave in different ways"
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1268 [14:50:26] <FinalX> I only mentioned one vendor, Microsoft,
doing the same thing for both.
1269 [14:50:37] <FinalX> I only mentioned one vendor, Microsoft,
doing the same thing for both OSs.
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1271 [14:50:46] <jelly> the vendors in question are Debian and
Canonical
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1273 [14:51:05] <ksk> medfly: why not just test if a bash is
invokable, and has version <=X, and quit your script otherwise?
sounds like religious war otherwise :P
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1275 [14:51:08] <FinalX> No, Microsoft is the vendor of the
software packages. I never said anything about Debian or
Ubuntu's vendors doing something stupid.
1276 [14:51:14] <medfly> ksk: Yeah I should do this
1277 [14:51:26] <jelly> you've used
"Debian/Ubuntu", it's a red flag
1278 [14:51:48] <Javabean> debian is not ubuntu, ubuntu is not
debian*
1279 [14:51:54] <FinalX> You're misinterpreting, not my fault
you're frustrated about people thinking they are the same.
1280 [14:52:03] <FinalX> And reading it into everything.
1281 [14:52:06] * ksk goes installing some ubuntu .debs on his debian.
1282 [14:52:19] <medfly> ksk: TRAITOR
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1286 [14:52:36] <jelly> might not apply to you, but I see it used
in many places that do not actually test both at all
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1288 [14:53:32] <bites> what microsoft package is that that
changes the default shell?
1289 [14:53:42] <medfly> who knew that a separation implementation
diverges over 20 years
1290 [14:53:57] <jelly> medfly: however, nothing stops you from
writing a #! /bin/bash script, there are many in Debian
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1292 [14:54:54] <medfly> For shame. I'm seeing if I can fix
dash!
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1296 [14:58:34] <jelly> IME it's not worth the troulbe if
you're dealing with third party scripts or software
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1363 [15:40:49] <yokowka> hello everysoul!!!! such unworking in
the boot: [10.002633] usb 3-1.5: device later read/64, error - 110
[failed] failed to start raise network interfaces. How to decide
this unworking?))))
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1369 [15:42:57] <ProprietaryFreew> I'm on Debian
testing/buster, and I can't make a venv with python3. I get
this error:
replaced-url
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1374 [15:45:40] <bites> yokowka: what's the output of ip l
and what's inside /etc/network/interfaces please paste to
paste.debian.net what happens when you try to raise the network
interfaces manually with ifup?
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1377 [15:47:32] <kcuf> .
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1382 [15:48:13] <petn-randall> !debian-next
1383 [15:48:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
1384 [15:48:28] <petn-randall> ProprietaryFreew: ^^^ Try this
channel, where all the testing/sid users hang out.
1385 [15:49:06] <petn-randall> yokowka: Please paste the full
logs, including at least 20 lines before and after to
replaced-url
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1393 [15:52:09] <ProprietaryFreew> petn-randall: thx
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1426 [16:06:38] <offline> :q
1427 [16:06:42] <offline> EWIN
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1656 [17:47:31] <guru_> any debian for smartphone
1657 [17:48:00] <shtrb> What type of a smartphone ?
1658 [17:48:14] <guru_> moto g 3 TE
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1661 [17:49:14] <shtrb> that does sound like something that can
run anything other than it's original firmware, there was a
debian for armv4 in the past
1662 [17:50:18] <shtrb> guru_ , wiki.debian.org/Mobile#Devices
1663 [17:50:44] <jelly> guru_: sometimes you can put a debian
chroot onto an android phone. There is however no device that runs
Debian as the native OS and is primarily used as a mobile phone.
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1665 [17:51:05] <shtrb> jelly, you forgot OpenMoko
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1667 [17:51:16] <guru_> shtrb, yeah you right but i get bored of
android
1668 [17:51:26] <jelly> shtrb: OpenMoko is not Debian
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1670 [17:51:50] <guru_> i tried to install kali though
1671 [17:51:52] <jelly> and is probably not really alive
1672 [17:52:03] <guru_> but not happened
1673 [17:52:12] <shtrb> !kali
1674 [17:52:12] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1675 [17:52:41] <shtrb> jelly,
replaced-url
1676 [17:52:43] <jelly> I'd probably look at postmarketOS, it
might be able to make calls by now with some devices
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1678 [17:53:00] <guru_> dpkg yes i know kali is not supported by
debian
1679 [17:53:01] <dpkg> okay, guru_
1680 [17:53:18] <greycat> dpkg, forget yes i know kali
1681 [17:53:19] <dpkg> i forgot yes i know kali, greycat
1682 [17:53:27] <shtrb> lol
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1684 [17:53:38] <guru_> haha
1685 [17:53:47] <mefistofeles> xD
1686 [17:53:53] <jelly> shtrb: that seems both very old and
useless for phoning
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1690 [17:54:34] <jelly> but sure, maybe you can still find a
provider that has a 2G network
1691 [17:54:46] <guru_> i think some debian for smartphone should
be present
1692 [17:54:57] <guru_> who trust google
1693 [17:55:33] <shtrb> guru_, I have bad news for you, SS7 and
LTE is worse than google
1694 [17:55:34] <jelly> it's a nice idea, that requires 9
digits of money to be viable
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1696 [17:56:03] <guru_> shtrb yeah
1697 [17:56:04] * shtrb searches for some Nigerian prince to help him
out
1698 [17:56:23] <guru_> world is full of spammers...
1699 [17:56:26] <petn-randall> guru_: You can always run Android
on your phone without the proprietary Google bits.
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1703 [17:56:49] <jelly> keeping just the proprietary hw vendor
bits
1704 [17:56:56] <guru_> petn-randall how
1705 [17:56:57] <yokowka> petn randal how to make log?
1706 [17:57:18] <jelly> guru_: an AOSP distro, like Lineage OS
1707 [17:57:22] <shtrb> jelly, vendor[s] not one vendor
1708 [17:57:48] <guru_> jelly that is good option
1709 [17:57:51] <petn-randall> yokowka: petn<tab>
1710 [17:58:15] <jelly> don't get your panties in a bunch
pat'n'rantall
1711 [17:58:24] <yokowka> petn-randall, how to mke log?
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1713 [17:58:35] <petn-randall> Chop it out of a tree?
1714 [17:58:44] <petn-randall> yokowka: I don't know what
you're referring to.
1715 [17:58:56] <jelly> yokowka: we need more details
1716 [17:59:00] <jelly> !ask
1717 [17:59:00] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1720 [17:59:25] <yokowka> petn-randall, hello everysoul!!!! such
unworking in the boot: [10.002633] usb 3-1.5: device later read/64,
error - 110 [failed] failed to start raise network interfaces. How
to decide this unworking?))))
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1726 [18:01:44] <petn-randall> yokowka: Right. Take that output,
and all the output around it, and paste it to
replaced-url
1727 [18:02:06] <greycat> I'm guessing he can't paste it
because he has no networking
1728 [18:02:57] <yokowka> petn-randall, i'd love to, but do
not know how to get this all information from 5 seconds booting
system?
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1731 [18:03:21] <shtrb> yokowka, can you try using a different
port ?
1732 [18:03:21] <petn-randall> yokowka: Run 'dmesg' as
root.
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1735 [18:03:47] <petn-randall> yokowka: Or run `less
/var/log/kern.log` to scroll through the output with a viewer.
1736 [18:03:48] <yokowka> petn-randall, well do.
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1743 [18:05:35] <yokowka> petn-randall, here it is
replaced-url
1744 [18:06:10] <petn-randall> yokowka: that ... doesn't show
the error you're reporting.
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1751 [18:07:54] <yokowka> petn-randall, here it is II)))) :
replaced-url
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1753 [18:08:50] <petn-randall> yokowka: I can see your paste.
Which line do you have a problem with?
1754 [18:08:56] <yokowka> shtrb what is the different and also -
port?
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1757 [18:09:39] <shtrb> yokowka, I think your network device is a
usb device which is plugged into a USB port, you might try using a
different usb port
1758 [18:09:44] <greycat> I think he meant "try plugging the
USB network interface into a different USB port"
1759 [18:10:13] <shtrb> yeh , that too
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1762 [18:12:01] <somiaj> is this a wifi device whose predicitable
interface name is dependent on what usb port it is plugged into?
1763 [18:12:33] <shtrb> wan't that change to use the mac
address ?
1764 [18:12:52] <somiaj> I thought it should for usb devices, but
the one I see in dmesg isn't using the mac address
1765 [18:13:27] <somiaj> wlp2s0 is what is in the paste, and it is
assoicated with some access point, but unsure about an ip. Maybe the
output of ip a would help
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1767 [18:14:16] <yokowka> petn-randall, 788 757 654 243
1768 [18:14:58] <shtrb> Is that a teamviewer address ?!
1769 [18:15:06] <yokowka> shtrb - be bleas, but there is no one
devicr plugged in to usb
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1771 [18:15:15] <shtrb> ok
1772 [18:15:33] <petn-randall> yokowka: We already talked about
the last two entries (654 + 243) the other day.
1773 [18:15:33] <somiaj> it is a list of line numbers
1774 [18:15:37] <yokowka> shtrb this is answer to petn-randall
1775 [18:16:04] <yokowka> petn-randall, yep, and what with 788?
1776 [18:16:17] <petn-randall> yokowka: I'm sounding like a
broken record: Those are purely cosmetic, and if at all, your BIOS
vendor needs to fix that.
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1778 [18:17:15] <yokowka> petn-randall, BIOS updating will helps
me?
1779 [18:17:16] <somiaj> yokowka: I would identify what isn't
working as expected, and try to debug that, not just look for errors
in dmesg. Is it that your usb wifi device isn't working?
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1781 [18:18:08] <shtrb> yokowka, does it reboot ? shutdown ?
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1783 [18:18:50] <Sir_Designer> potrzebujesz sobie skonstruować
phase array, jakieś 48 nadajników/emiterów.
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1785 [18:19:07] <Sir_Designer> masz w końcu działkę, chamie.
1786 [18:19:07] <yokowka> petn-randall, wi-fi module is on. I talk
in net trow that. USB - i do not use now.
1787 [18:19:10] <shtrb> !klingon
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1789 [18:19:21] <Sir_Designer> wrong ch, sorry.
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1792 [18:19:50] <yokowka> shtrb, this is reboot if You about
[10.002633] usb 3-1.5: device later read/64, error - 110 [failed]
failed to start raise network interfaces.
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1795 [18:20:38] <shtrb> error -110 normally is either a firmware
or a bad cable / port
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1797 [18:21:00] <somiaj> yokowka: What is your actual problem?
dmesg can be full of warnings that may not affect the actual
problem.
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1801 [18:21:45] <yokowka> shtrb - how to make good cable/port?
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1803 [18:22:10] <shtrb> replace (if that is really the reason)
1804 [18:22:22] <yokowka> somiaj [10.002633] usb 3-1.5: device
later read/64, error - 110 [failed] failed to start raise network
interfaces!!!! this is line in booting.
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1807 [18:22:46] <somiaj> yokowka: that is not a problem. Does your
network interface work? Which interface is this, a wifi usb?
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1811 [18:23:12] <petn-randall> yokowka: AGAIN. What is the
user-visible problem? A spooky error message is not a problem.
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1813 [18:23:37] * petn-randall has a horrible deja-vu.
1814 [18:23:39] <somiaj> if you look later in dmesg, you clearly
see the wifi device is correct assoicating with an AP, and from what
I see that means it most likely is working.
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1818 [18:24:35] <shtrb> yokowka, што дакладная праблема, калі
ласка, пішыце на англійскай (using google translate)
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1825 [18:26:07] <yokowka> shtrb, somiaj petn-randall error message
about failed, is my trouble.... if some is failed it must be fixed,
I think that!
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1827 [18:26:36] <petn-randall> yokowka: What are the contents of
/etc/network/interfaces?
1828 [18:27:08] <somiaj> yokowka: Does your wifi device work? I
see it is correctly assoiating with an AP, can you share the output
of 'ip a' please
1829 [18:27:13] <yokowka> petn-randall, type your mentioned line
in console?
1830 [18:27:31] <petn-randall> yokowka: `cat
/etc/network/interfaces`
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1834 [18:27:53] <yokowka> somiaj will do, petn-randall will do
1835 [18:27:55] <shtrb> yokowka, type ip addr in the a konsole
application and hit enter
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1839 [18:29:21] <yokowka> shtrb here
replaced-url
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1844 [18:30:43] <somiaj> yokowka: your wifi device looks like it
is working correctly.
1845 [18:30:50] <somiaj> yokowka: I do not see any problem in any
info you have shared.
1846 [18:30:53] <yokowka> petn-randall,
replaced-url
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1849 [18:31:40] <yokowka> somiaj, as seen in booting trouble is in
usb 3.0....
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1852 [18:31:58] <yokowka> for my opinion
1853 [18:31:59] <somiaj> what is the actual problem, and
don't say a warning in demsg.
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1855 [18:32:17] <somiaj> do you have an actual usb device that you
have plugged in and is NOT working?
1856 [18:32:32] <yokowka> let's try
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1858 [18:32:49] <somiaj> let's try? So you have no actual
problem. You should probably ignore dmesg
1859 [18:32:50] <petn-randall> …
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1862 [18:33:10] <somiaj> there is a reason windows hides this info
from its users, it is really only useful if debugging an actual
problem.
1863 [18:34:00] <petn-randall> I'm sure there are better ways
to spend you weekends than picking random log messages, and then
constructing a hypothetical problem around it.
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1868 [18:34:53] <petn-randall> yokowka: What is the output of
`systemctl list-units --state=failed`, run as root?
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1870 [18:35:30] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm normally an
Ubuntu guy but I need to run Linux in a VM because I need a newer
version of gcc. What's the latest version of gcc supported in
debian?
1871 [18:35:32] <yokowka> petn-randall, for previous message your
- not be angry to a newer
1872 [18:35:56] <shtrb> ,v gcc
1873 [18:35:57] <judd> Package: gcc on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1;
jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; stretch: 4:6.3.0-4; buster: 4:7.3.0-3; sid:
4:7.3.0-3; experimental: 4:8-20180425-2
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1875 [18:36:00] <somiaj> Richard_Cavell: debian most likely
won't have a newer version of gcc than Ubuntu (here I'm
assuming you mean a debian stable release)
1876 [18:36:02] <shtrb> Richard_Cavell, ^
1877 [18:36:29] <Drakonis> the default for buster/sid is 7.3
1878 [18:36:37] <Drakonis> you can also run it inside a container
1879 [18:36:40] <Drakonis> see nspawn or docker
1880 [18:36:41] <somiaj> Richard_Cavell: And depending on what you
want to compile, you could get away with using a chroot as opposed
to a full vm
1881 [18:36:48] <somiaj> or just debootstrap in a chroot
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1883 [18:36:54] <Drakonis> by the way, a rare thing has happened,
someone bothered to update docker on sid
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1885 [18:37:07] <Drakonis> its no longer years behind
1886 [18:37:16] <Drakonis> ,v docker.io
1887 [18:37:17] <judd> Package: docker.io on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 1.6.2~dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.13.1~ds3-4;
experimental: 17.12.1+dfsg-3
1888 [18:37:18] <yokowka> petn-randall,
replaced-url
1889 [18:37:24] <Drakonis> experimental, rather.
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1893 [18:37:43] <somiaj> Drakonis: maybe one day docker and
node-js will slow down and be something debian could support.
1894 [18:37:54] <Drakonis> by that timke
1895 [18:37:55] <Drakonis> time
1896 [18:38:01] <Drakonis> we'll have something else take its
place
1897 [18:38:03] <somiaj> but it was removed because debian
stable's version would fall so far behind it wasn't useful
having it in stable.
1898 [18:38:10] <greycat> Pffff. Might as well expect C++ to
stabilize.
1899 [18:38:20] <Drakonis> ie: podman will nuke docker into
oblivion and node.js will disappear in the sea of js frameworks
1900 [18:38:53] <somiaj> well slow down enough that one could use
the forzen version in stable and not need the current version.
1901 [18:39:00] <petn-randall> yokowka: Seems as though there is a
minor problem. Can you show us the output of `journalctl -u
networking`?
1902 [18:39:09] <shtrb> c++ is stable !
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1905 [18:39:33] <Drakonis> c++ updates every 3 years
1906 [18:39:43] <greycat> then why are we *still* getting people
coming in here saying they need a newer GCC for some new iteration
of C++
1907 [18:39:52] <yokowka> petn-randall, yes do.
1908 [18:39:55] <Drakonis> because gcc is trash
1909 [18:39:59] <greycat> that shit should've stopped 15
years ago
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1911 [18:40:24] <shtrb> greycat, because people wish to play with
new compiler features ?
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1913 [18:40:40] <yokowka> by the way i've try all 4 usb ports
by iphone connection - they are works!!!!
1914 [18:40:55] <Drakonis> gcc has major releases once a year
1915 [18:40:56] <Drakonis> hooray
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1917 [18:41:50] <yokowka> petn-randall,
replaced-url
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1919 [18:43:55] <shtrb> yokowka, did you touch if-up scripts ?
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1921 [18:44:32] <yokowka> shtrb, i don't know what that
is....
1922 [18:44:49] <yokowka> if-up scripts
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1924 [18:45:12] <petn-randall> yokowka: Do you have any files in
/etc/network/interfaces.d/?
1925 [18:45:55] <yokowka> petn-randall, setup there
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1927 [18:46:49] <petn-randall> yokowka: Can you show us the
contents?
1928 [18:47:11] <yokowka> auto lo
1929 [18:47:12] <yokowka> iface lo inet loopback
1930 [18:47:12] <yokowka> auto eth0
1931 [18:47:12] <yokowka> iface eth0 inet dhcp
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1933 [18:47:32] <petn-randall> yokowka: Did you create that file?
1934 [18:47:38] <yokowka> nop
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1937 [18:48:04] <yokowka> *nope
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1940 [18:48:12] <petn-randall> yokowka: What is the filename?
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1943 [18:48:38] <yokowka> petn-randall, setup is filename
1944 [18:48:47] <yokowka> 'setup'
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1946 [18:49:17] <shtrb> file content ...
1947 [18:49:54] <yokowka> auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
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1950 [18:50:11] <yokowka> one on one other
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1952 [18:50:25] <yokowka> lines i mean
1953 [18:50:32] <petn-randall> yokowka: Then delete that file,
it's not created by Debian.
1954 [18:50:39] <petn-randall> yokowka: Where did you install this
OS from?
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1957 [18:52:09] <yokowka> petn-randall, I can't delete file
system says. File is for reading only.
1958 [18:52:22] <petn-randall> yokowka: Use root.
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1960 [18:53:04] <yokowka> petn-randall, i've installed debian
gnome from link of one chater of #debian
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1962 [18:53:16] <yokowka> send to me
1963 [18:53:56] <petn-randall> yokowka: Send what now?
1964 [18:53:57] <yokowka> petn-randall, what is chain of actions
to delete setup as root?
1965 [18:54:16] <petn-randall> yokowka: `sudo rm
/etc/network/interfaces.d/setup`
1966 [18:54:39] <petn-randall> Assuming you have configured sudo.
Else it's logging in as root, then running `rm
/etc/network/interfaces.d/setup`.
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1969 [18:56:29] <yokowka> petn-randall, allredy done. now
inteface.d - is empty.
1970 [18:56:45] <petn-randall> yokowka: Now one of your cosmetical
problems is gone.
1971 [18:57:14] <yokowka> petn-randall, be bleas YOU! I'm
your owner!!!!
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1973 [18:57:43] <greycat> something didn't translate well...
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1978 [18:58:10] <yokowka> petn-randall, rant link me debian.iso
and i'd installed)
1979 [18:58:18] <petn-randall> hahahaha
1980 [18:58:19] <shtrb> he used chown one too many times ?
1981 [18:58:34] <petn-randall> yokowka: Slavery was abolished a
long time ago, you can't own me.
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1983 [18:59:10] <shtrb> petn-randall, assume you are a migrant
workers who had his passport confiscated
1984 [18:59:26] <yokowka> petn-randall, how to says. banks all
over the planet amoung iceland, iran, north korea)))))
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1988 [19:00:21] <yokowka> petn-randall, shtrb - heavenno to you
both!
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1991 [19:01:33] <yokowka> petn-randall, that trouble i talded you
ago)))) what next with cosmetic problems?))))
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1995 [19:03:16] <yokowka> shtrb, your question about used
chown.... i do not clearly understand it....
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1997 [19:03:32] <shtrb> It was a pun
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2004 [19:08:05] <yokowka> shtrb, angry joke?
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2006 [19:08:37] <shtrb> no, just an word play, chown change
ownership on files
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2010 [19:09:47] <yokowka> well, no my Э.В.М. is not my((((? :)
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2012 [19:10:00] <yokowka> *well now
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2017 [19:10:57] <otyugh> Why doesn't the connman package
conflict with network manager in apt ? They both will conflict if
installed on the same computer, isn't it ?
2018 [19:11:14] <otyugh> *doesn't
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2022 [19:11:58] <somiaj> what do you mean by conflict?
2023 [19:12:02] <jhutchins_wk> otyugh: You can have them both
installed, but only one enabled at a time. Also true of wicd.
2024 [19:12:20] <somiaj> you could also have them manage different
interfaces and both running
2025 [19:12:28] <otyugh> okay
2026 [19:12:57] <somiaj> that is kinda like asking why
doesn't network manger conflict with the
/etc/network/interfaces file
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2029 [19:13:47] <otyugh> Ahm. somiaj any idea what package creat
/etc/netork/interfaces ? Always wondered.
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2031 [19:13:55] <otyugh> (random new question I know)
2032 [19:14:05] <yokowka> petn-randall, is you here?
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2036 [19:15:59] <yokowka> shtrb, how to get back ownership on my
Э.В.М.?
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2038 [19:17:08] <shtrb> sudo chown $USER filename
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2040 [19:17:20] <somiaj> otyugh: /etc/network/interfaces I think
is created by the installer. The ifupdown package provides the
scripts that read that file, but it isn't a conffile of the
ifupdown package
2041 [19:17:32] <bites> otyugh: the interfaces file is created and
used by ifupdown
2042 [19:17:49] <somiaj> bites: do you see where ifupdown actually
creates it?
2043 [19:18:06] <otyugh> doesn't list down in apt-file
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2045 [19:18:15] <bites> somiaj: in the postinst script i believe.
2046 [19:18:18] <yokowka> shtrb, here is the answer: chown:
невозможно получить доступ к 'filename': Нет такого файла
или каталога
2047 [19:18:36] <somiaj> yea, I found it in the post install
script, it creates the file if it doens't exist
2048 [19:18:36] <bites> somiaj: i don't know why it's
not directly provided by the package.
2049 [19:18:39] <greycat> LC_ALL=C chown ...
2050 [19:18:47] <somiaj> but the installer does create its own
file too.
2051 [19:18:52] <yokowka> greycat, you to me?
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2053 [19:19:17] <greycat> to get the error messages in English
2054 [19:19:18] <shtrb> yokowka, filename is a place holder for
the filename
2055 [19:19:23] <somiaj> bites: because you don't want
updates to the package changing that, and being a conf file is kinda
silly, since there isn't a central configuration for that file,
and you won't want to accidently replace it with the package
version on an upgrade.
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2057 [19:19:47] <bites> yeah, makes sense.
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2062 [19:21:41] <yokowka> shtrb, there is : 'chown:
can't get access to the filename: no sich file or folder....
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2065 [19:22:17] <yokowka> shtrb, what is the right command?
2066 [19:22:42] <shtrb> forget it
2067 [19:22:55] <greycat> yokowka: what are you trying to do?
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2072 [19:23:24] <shtrb> <yokowka> shtrb, how to get back
ownership on my Э.В.М.?
2073 [19:23:27] <shtrb> greycat, ^
2074 [19:23:35] <shtrb> what ever the last part mean
2075 [19:23:38] <greycat> I have no idea what a thatchar.B.M. is
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2077 [19:23:48] <yokowka> greycat, deside cosmetic troubles of
debian booting.
2078 [19:23:48] <shtrb> I assume a file
2079 [19:24:02] <greycat> yokowka: close your eyes while it boots
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2083 [19:24:26] <shtrb> lol
2084 [19:24:32] <yokowka> Э.В.М. = Эlectronic Computing Maching
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2086 [19:25:06] <yokowka> on Rus' yazyk
2087 [19:25:14] <shtrb> What is 3Lectronic ?
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2091 [19:26:00] <yokowka> Э = both letters A+E in Rus' yazyk
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2094 [19:26:34] <yokowka> Э лектроника = Electronic
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2099 [19:27:36] <shtrb> æ ?
2100 [19:27:44] <yokowka> greycat, closing eyes not new
proposing)))) petn-randall says so))))
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2104 [19:29:00] <yokowka> shtrb, æ = ИЖА, not Э, сlosely to
ia
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2106 [19:29:18] <yokowka> but Э is ae
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2108 [19:30:48] <yokowka> i am only one here now?
2109 [19:31:05] <greycat> We're still here.
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2111 [19:31:35] <bites> busy learning russian.
2112 [19:32:03] <yokowka> so what to do with that
replaced-url
2113 [19:32:26] <yokowka> bites - not the badest learning.
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2116 [19:33:06] <bites> yokowka: i thought you fixed that already.
what happens if you run systemctl restart networking? it should run
without problems now.
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2118 [19:33:52] <yokowka> bites now i try? and later told you.
promisse!
2119 [19:33:59] <yokowka> so wide!
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2123 [19:34:15] <bites> bye weird russian friend.
2124 [19:34:19] <somiaj> You really need to reboot to test that,
the networking service isn't relaly designed to be restarted.
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2129 [19:35:23] <shtrb> or to reload services (fancy systemd`)
2130 [19:35:33] <bites> it just brings up all with ifupdown
configured interfaces, which he shouldn't have any now. he
wanted a cosmetic fix. ^^
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2133 [19:36:32] <yokowka> heavenno to you!!!!
2134 [19:37:02] <yokowka> now booting with no failed)))) only two
cosmetic errors....
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2138 [19:37:38] <yokowka> how to restle them?))))
2139 [19:37:54] <shtrb> What now ?
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2141 [19:38:25] <yokowka> shtrb, how to see booting errors when
boots is over?
2142 [19:38:38] <yokowka> *boot is over
2143 [19:39:08] <greycat> Lots of ways -- dmesg, journalctl, less
/var/log/syslog, etc.
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2146 [19:40:49] <yokowka> greycat see you self
replaced-url
2147 [19:41:05] <yokowka> i mean shtrb
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2149 [19:41:26] <yokowka> greycat - heavenno to you
2150 [19:41:28] <shtrb> I do not see any "errors" there
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2154 [19:42:47] <yokowka> there are two errors when booting for
paste here i used les\var....etc. what correctly comand helps me to
show you booting cosmetic errors?
2155 [19:43:05] <yokowka> shtrb?
2156 [19:43:08] <greycat> If you can't even find the message,
then it's not very important.
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2158 [19:44:06] <yokowka> greycat been smarter to make desigions
for cosmetic error!
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2160 [19:44:40] <greycat> If cosmetic is important to you, run Mac
OS.
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2164 [19:45:10] <yokowka> greycat, why you use f word?))))
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2166 [19:45:42] <shtrb> the f word is for find ?!
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2168 [19:47:17] <yokowka> Mac a = Matsa jews - jaws food!
That's why it is Mac OS to me - f... word!
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2171 [19:48:13] <greycat> If you choose Linux, then you choose
something that gives you ugly, often unnecessary, detail. Sometimes
that detail will be critical to fixing an actual problem. When it
isn't, you just ignore it.
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2173 [19:48:28] <greycat> If you care about cosmetics, you're
in the wrong place.
2174 [19:48:40] <yokowka> i do not take something that thakes
before me someone, esspecially food - apples for example!
2175 [19:49:15] <yokowka> so greycat i can ignored that.....
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2180 [19:50:21] <shtrb> There was an option to hide boot message
2181 [19:50:36] <Drakonis> remove quiet
2182 [19:50:48] <yokowka> shtrb, interesting. go on!
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2185 [19:51:57] <Mot0Kus4n> Hey,anytime i start my debian by wifi
i get ip by dhcp i have to do #dhclient -r to start to navigate
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2187 [19:52:13] <Mot0Kus4n> via eth0 no problem :/
2188 [19:52:36] <greycat> Most boot messages *are* hidden by
default in Debian.
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2191 [19:53:07] <greycat> grep quiet /etc/default/grub
2192 [19:53:18] <yokowka> greycat not quite that
2193 [19:53:19] <shtrb> greycat, I remember there was an option to
leave just a logo during boot
2194 [19:53:43] <yokowka> shtrb very interesting!!!!
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2196 [19:54:36] <yokowka> grey cat this comand will help grep
quiet /etc/default/grub?
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2199 [19:55:05] <greycat> It shows you that in a normal Debian
installation, GRUB passes the "quiet" parameter to the
kernel. Which suppresses most of the kernel's boot messages.
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2203 [19:56:32] <yokowka> shtrb, what do you think 'grep
quiet /etc/default/grub' will be shown only logo when debian is
booting on? that comand you mean?
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2205 [19:56:47] <shtrb> no
2206 [19:57:00] <somiaj> They use to call that a splash screen
2207 [19:57:11] <shtrb> yes
2208 [19:57:15] <shtrb> I forgot the name
2209 [19:57:32] <somiaj> but with efi and kms drivers, unsure what
is the prefered method to get a logo on boot. quiet just supresses
most stuff and you leaves you at either a login console or display
manager
2210 [19:57:38] <yokowka> shtrb, can find needed comand?
2211 [19:57:54] <shtrb> somaij says it's not workable , sorry
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2213 [19:58:53] <yokowka> shtrb, quite pretty!!!! greycat
'grep quiet /etc/default/grub' makes me more comfort?
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2219 [20:00:14] <yokowka> somiaj, heavenno to you! so splash i
have in ubuntu, and three minutes of black screen.....
2220 [20:00:17] <jelly> plymouth
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2222 [20:00:32] <jelly> ,i plymouth
2223 [20:00:33] <LtL> yokowka: all that command does it tell you
if the word 'quiet' is in that file.
2224 [20:00:33] <judd> Package plymouth (misc, optional) in
stretch/amd64: boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer. Version:
0.9.2-4; Size: 114.8k; Installed: 450k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2228 [20:02:47] <yokowka> who can answer 'grep quiet
/etc/default/grub' will more comfort booting, while greycat not
answer question that!?
2229 [20:03:01] <shtrb> no, it will not change a thing
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2233 [20:03:17] <greycat> It only SHOWS you something. It does not
CHANGE anything.
2234 [20:03:26] <yokowka> shtrb, but beter try?
2235 [20:03:31] <yokowka> or do?
2236 [20:03:37] <greycat> wooledg:~$ grep quiet /etc/default/grub
2237 [20:03:37] <greycat>
#GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
2238 [20:03:43] <LtL> yokowka: all that command does it tell you
if the word 'quiet' is in that file. and it should be IF
you want init messages suppressed
2239 [20:03:50] <greycat> On mine, it's commented out,
because I didn't WANT it to be quiet.
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2247 [20:06:22] <yokowka> greycat, so shall i don't see
something needed to see warning or etc if make 'grep quiet
/etc/default/grub'?
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2250 [20:06:40] <yokowka> while booting....
2251 [20:07:09] <yokowka> mistackes i misse?
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2254 [20:07:29] <yokowka> important
2255 [20:07:45] <bites> just forget about that command. take a
look at plymouth.
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2257 [20:08:39] <yokowka> LtL, jelly, blease you!
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2261 [20:10:06] <greycat> Again, grep only SHOWS you information.
It does not CHANGE things.
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2265 [20:10:12] <greycat> It's like cat.
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2267 [20:10:58] <yokowka> greycat, )))) bites, plymouth - very
good looks
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2286 [20:17:03] <donkey_boy> i am so angry
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2299 [20:20:30] <yokowka> bites, how to installed plymouth? the
link is not works(
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2301 [20:20:51] <yokowka>
replaced-url
2302 [20:21:57] <greycat> !plumouth
2303 [20:21:59] <bites> yokowka: it's a debian package. you
will then need to configure it.
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2304 [20:21:59] <greycat> !plymouth
2305 [20:22:04] <greycat> gaaahhhh
2306 [20:22:07] <LtL> yokowka: apt install plymouth
2307 [20:22:19] <greycat> Fine, just use bites's abridged
version.
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2310 [20:22:59] <bites> just installing it will not be enough if
you want graphics during boot.
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2316 [20:24:52] <yokowka> bites, greycat comand of LtL easyest....
for my 'onion' opinion))))
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2321 [20:25:40] <farfadet> Hello everybody out there!
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2326 [20:25:51] <donkey_boy> farfadet: get out of here you foolish
gay infidel
2327 [20:25:57] <yokowka> farfadet, heavenno there!!!!
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2329 [20:26:05] <yokowka> everysoul
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*!*@dsl-hkibng32-54fb54-126.dhcp.inet.fi
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2332 [20:26:39] <farfadet> Thanks @yokowka
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2334 [20:26:58] <yokowka> farfadet, not for....
2335 [20:27:10] <farfadet> @donkey_boy: I do not know, thanks?
2336 [20:27:18] <LtL> yokowka: you will need to configure
plymouth, most likely.
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2340 [20:28:08] <farfadet> I am a Debian user, for several years,
but my apologies:
2341 [20:28:36] <farfadet> I came here just to ensure I can
connect to Freenode, because I am having some troubles on #nouveau.
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2343 [20:29:26] <farfadet> Well, the test is positive: I can
connect to Freenode, so the problem is probably with #nouveau.
2344 [20:29:34] <farfadet> Thank you and sorry for the noise.
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2349 [20:31:04] <yokowka> LtL, now i'm trow tutorial making
instalation. How to save editing file, which opened for read only?
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2351 [20:31:26] <greycat> You don't.
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2353 [20:31:51] <greycat> You either write the contents to a temp
file somewhere so you can read it back in later, or you simply
discard changes and start over.
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2355 [20:32:15] <greycat> Then you EXIT the editor, restart the
editor AS ROOT, and then redo the changes.
2356 [20:32:54] <yokowka> greycat how to restart editor as root?
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2358 [20:33:40] <greycat> Depends on whether you're an sudo
user or an su user.
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2360 [20:33:54] <greycat> Either "sudo myeditor myfile",
or "su" and then "myeditor myfile".
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2362 [20:34:11] <greycat> Or in other words, "Same way you do
anything as root."
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2372 [20:36:58] <yokowka> greycat, i've opened text file, and
when after editing tryin save it - dyan da lyan (*china)
2373 [20:37:28] <greycat> Which editor?
2374 [20:38:08] <yokowka> greycat, file with text named
/etc/initramfs-tools
2375 [20:38:24] <greycat> I didn't ask what file you're
editing. I asked which editor you're using.
2376 [20:38:41] <yokowka> greycat, standard debian
2377 [20:38:55] <greycat> ... no, I quit. I'm done. I
can't take any more of this. *plonk*
2378 [20:39:21] <greycat> There are about a hundred different text
editors in the world. Probably half a dozen are popular.
2379 [20:39:25] <yokowka> textpad probably
2380 [20:39:38] <greycat> There's nano, emacs, vim, joe, jed,
....
2381 [20:39:50] <LtL> yokowka: no editor by that name. what did
you type? you didnt use a GUI app did you?
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2383 [20:39:59] <bites> close your editor, open it again as root
user or with sudo.
2384 [20:40:16] <greycat> I heard a rumor once that someone made
an X11 client that claims to be a text editor. But that can't
possibly be right. Nobody would ever use an X11 text editor,
especially since you can't run it as root.
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2386 [20:41:06] <yokowka> greycat, you is right - text editor!
2387 [20:41:56] <bites> ,i gksu
2388 [20:41:57] <judd> Package gksu (admin, optional) in
stretch/amd64: graphical front-end to su and sudo. Version:
2.0.2-9+b1; Size: 71.0k; Installed: 289k; Homepage:
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2390 [20:42:07] <bites> hmm... is that still used? i don't
even know.
2391 [20:42:11] <yokowka> LtL, Configuration Edit the file
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules and add the modesetting for your
graphics card: For Intel: # KMS intel_agp drm i915 modeset=1
2392 [20:42:24] <yokowka> this from tutorial
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2394 [20:42:53] <greycat> If you are a Debian user, you MUST learn
at least one terminal-based text editor. Even if it's just
nano. MUST learn. This is not optional.
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2396 [20:43:08] <greycat> Then you can do "sudo nano
/etc/whatever/file" and be happy.
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2398 [20:43:20] <LtL> yokowka: i didn't ask for that
information, it seemed you were stuck in a editor.
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2400 [20:43:42] <yokowka> greycat, heavenno blease you!
2401 [20:43:58] <yokowka> LtL, true!
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2413 [20:47:39] <yokowka> hey judd,youre link is too hard for
me)))))
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2424 [20:51:05] <yokowka> LtL, in tutorial for jeezy wheezy, for
stretch there is no such instruction, ' apt install
plymouth' will help?
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2456 [21:04:29] <AliceKelly> hello
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2463 [21:07:47] <Mot0Kus4n> hi there
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2466 [21:08:27] <LtL> yokowka: i have never used plymouth, you
probably want themes also. apt should have recommended it.
plymouth-themes after that you are on your own.
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2470 [21:11:29] <yokowka> LtL, how to install the plymouth-themes
package?
2471 [21:11:57] <LtL> yokowka: apt install plymouth
plymouth-themes
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2473 [21:12:24] <LtL> yokowka: think twice before you do this
2474 [21:12:25] <yokowka> LtL, heavenno blease You!
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2482 [21:16:28] <yokowka> brothers - heavenno blease You all!!!!
watch you later!!!! beter to You!!!!
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for setting some additional static routes in preseed file for
additional routes required during the install? (not worried about
routes after the post install reboot thats easy enough to handle)
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2607 [22:42:20] <costello_> Is there any idea when qt5.11 is
coming to unstable?
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2609 [22:42:35] <greycat> if #debian-next doesn't know, then
we certainly don't
2610 [22:42:54] <costello_> haven't asked there yet..
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2613 [22:44:02] <annadane> (on irc.oftc.net, not freenode)
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2627 [22:50:34] <jgkamat> 5.11 has a lot of bugs, so I'd hope
they wait for at least a bugfix release
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2630 [22:52:07] <annadane> even then #debian-next may not even
know, i still don't really know the answer to "when will x
be in unstable"
2631 [22:52:17] <annadane> the obvious answer is ask the
maintainer but that's arguably rude
2632 [22:52:34] <annadane> the next obvious answer is "if you
want it in unstable quicker, volunteer"
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2641 [22:57:31] <gunix> where do you see who created this package:
replaced-url
2642 [22:59:09] <annadane> packages generally have a copyright
file, i believe
2643 [22:59:28] <annadane> in this case it doesn't list the
creators, though
2644 [22:59:37] <annadane> oh it does
2645 [22:59:40] <annadane>
replaced-url
2646 [23:00:01] <annadane> (on the sidebar, on the right)
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2648 [23:00:35] <gunix> yea, maintainers, i saw it
2649 [23:01:04] <annadane> maintainers isn't necessarily
creators, though
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2657 [23:02:58] <gunix> hmm, yea
2658 [23:03:13] <gunix> annadane: any idea why the packages on sid
are not always the latest from upstream?
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2662 [23:03:34] <gunix> i mean, can't maintainers do some CI
infra that repackages the software everytime upstream puts a new
version out ?
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2667 [23:04:21] <annadane> i don't know about the technical
side, my guess is it's sufficiently complicated to not be fully
automatable
2668 [23:04:31] <annadane> really not my area
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2670 [23:05:10] <greycat> because packaging by a robot would be of
utterly shitty quality and then you might as well be running like
Gentoo or something
2671 [23:05:33] <kittonian> hi all. I am trying to get the new
calendarserver 9 running on my wheezy machine and have seemingly
solved almost every installed issue thus far, but when it tries to
install cryptography it is failing on openssl errors. I have
libssl-dev installed and pip installed cryptography without issue
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2673 [23:05:46] <annadane> and, right, what greycat said
2674 [23:06:37] <brontosaurusrex> Any clean ways to upgrade
libfreetype6 ? (Stretch)
2675 [23:06:46] <gunix> greycat: why would it be utterly shitty
quality ?
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2677 [23:07:12] <gunix> in most cases, when it's just a bug
fix and not a major version change, you probably just need to add
the new binary
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2680 [23:07:57] <greycat> If the package maintainer decides that
the new upstream is just a bug fix release with no feature/API/ABI
changes then packaging it can be done very quickly.
2681 [23:08:13] <annadane> brontosaurusrex, are you familiar with
how debian stable works? packages are frozen except security fixes
and occasional bug fixes
2682 [23:08:24] <annadane> if there is an update, you can apt
install libfreetype6
2683 [23:08:34] <greycat> ,v libfreetype6
2684 [23:08:35] <judd> Package: libfreetype6 on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.4.9-1.1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.4.9-1.1+deb7u7; jessie:
2.5.2-3+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2.5.2-3+deb8u2; stretch: 2.6.3-3.2;
buster: 2.8.1-2; sid: 2.8.1-2
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2687 [23:09:04] <greycat> there doesn't appear to be a
stretch-security or a stretch-backports for it
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2689 [23:09:51] <gunix> greycat: check that vagrant for example.
2.0.2 is 6 months old
2690 [23:09:51] <annadane> or just apt upgrade to upgrade all
packages
2691 [23:10:11] <greycat> so it's still fresh out of the womb
and dripping with placental fluid
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2693 [23:10:20] <brontosaurusrex> Or somebody backported it to
make me happy.
2694 [23:10:22] <greycat> whatever a "vagrant" is
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2696 [23:10:46] <annadane> brontosaurusrex, try one of these
solutions
replaced-url
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2700 [23:12:22] <bites> upstream provides debian packages if you
need the latest and greatest vagrant. when it gets updated in debian
is up to the maintainer.
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2706 [23:13:35] <gunix> bites: it was just an example, the main
question was if CI could be set up in order to speed up the
packaging process for sid
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2708 [23:13:48] <gunix> bites: or ... better put ... if CI in this
scope would be a good idea
2709 [23:13:57] <bites> i'm sure it could, i doubt it would.
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2727 [23:23:58] <brontosaurusrex> annadane: That actually did a
trick
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2729 [23:24:26] <brontosaurusrex> I mean, i upgraded libfreetype,
but the silly app still won't run ...
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2731 [23:24:55] <annadane> have you tried running "the
app" (which app?) in a terminal and seeing what the output is?
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2733 [23:25:08] <brontosaurusrex> App is called kitty
2734 [23:25:24] <brontosaurusrex>
replaced-url
2735 [23:25:32] <annadane> which is packaged for debian, so just
try invoking it from the terminal
2736 [23:25:34] <annadane> ,v kitty
2737 [23:25:36] <judd> Package: kitty on amd64 -- buster: 0.9.0-1;
sid: 0.9.0-1
2738 [23:25:38] <annadane> oh.
2739 [23:25:44] <brontosaurusrex> oh
2740 [23:26:40] <annadane> still, according to the link it should
install in .local
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2746 [23:31:44] <brontosaurusrex> getting a useless error: [169
23:21:59.654064] Unknown uniform in cursor program:
_main_pos_map_0[0]
2747 [23:31:51] <brontosaurusrex> Well, useless for me.
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2752 [23:32:44] <brontosaurusrex> well, thanks, will bother the
dev a bit more.
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